Raiders training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, July 31st, 2011 at 7:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Day 4 of Camp Hue brought about a welcomed break for those 30 years old or older. All players who reached that threshhold were given the day off as a means of letting their bodies heal from the first three days of Raiders coach Hue Jackson’s physical camp.
That didn’t stop Jackson from putting the other 65 players or so allowed to practice through the paces, with an emphasis on third-down plays.
*Running back Darren McFadden looks rather serious about reaching the undisclosed lofty goals he set for himself this season. He is making players miss on a routine basis, making sharp cuts into the open field and blowing past would-be tacklers with ease. It says here, don’t be surprised if he surpasses his yardage total from his breakout season last year.
*Rookies Denarius Moore and DeMarcus Van Dyke split time with Nick Miller on kick return duties. That job figures to go to Jacoby Ford before all is said and done, but it doesn’t hurt to know what you have in case Ford gets hurt.
*Roy Schuening replaced Cooper Carlisle at right guard in Carlisle’s absence — he was given the day off — and he looked the part. At one point, assistant line coach Steve Wisniewski singled out Schuening, let out a holler, ran to the line and patted Schuening onthe backside for a job well done. Schuening has spent time with the Raiders on their practice squad.
*Moore made an impressive catch of a laser pass from fellow receiver Edward McGee, who has experience at quarterback. “We got another arm, we got another arm,” an unidentified player yelled upon seeing McGee cut loose.
*Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley was someone to stay away from during practice Sunday. Those who crossed his path usually ended up on the ground. Wimbley flattened tight end Kevin Brock with a forearm shiver during a seven-on-seven passing drill, and he later laid out Miller in full-team drills.
*Second-year left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer got beat by defensive end Matt Shaughnessy in a pass-protection drill the first timne they squared off. Wisniewski pulled aside Veldheer, gave him some pointers on his stance and footwork and sent Veldheer back in the line of fire. Veldheer stoned Shaughnessy the next two times.
*Rookie right offensive tackle Joseph Barksdale did an impressive job holding his own against second-year end Lamarr Houston during pass-protection drills. Barksdale is competing against veteran Khalif Barnes for the starting spot held by Langston Walker last season.
*Backup quarterback Kyle Boller is well known for his arm strength. It was on full display on a deep pass to receiver Chaz Schilens down the right sideline. Schilens fought through a pass interference from strong safety Tyvon Branch and hauled in the pass, just before he got flattened by safety Stevie Brown. Schilens added a leaping catch on an in route, just before he got drilled by rookie Zac Etheridge. Both times, Schilens bounced to his feet.
*Jackson said that he is confident in the Raiders getting running back Michael Bush and tight end Zach Miller in the mix soon. “Those things are going to resolve themselves soon,” Jackson said.
*Jackson speaks at length about the work ethic of his players and coaches. Long after practice, offensive line coach Bob Wylie was spotted on the field putting his starting offensive linemen through drills and working on technique, while Schilens was off to the side catching balls spit out from a machine.
*Free safety Michael Huff said he was amused by all the stories during the offseason that had him headed to the Dallas Cowboys or somewhere else. He said he and the Raiders had an understanding that he would be back once he was allowed to re-sign. It wasn’t that he didn’t have any other offers, though.
“I could have (left), yeah, but like this whole time I didn’t take any visits, didn’t take any phone calls or nothing,”Huff said. ”They called, but I didn’t answer.”
Huff said he still is the free safety. However, he intends to “do it all.”
“Whatever the defense needs, I’ll do it,” Huff said. “I’ll play dime, I’ll play a little linebacker in there – I’m not really too big but I’ll do anything to help the defense. I just want to win. That’s the main thing is to win and make plays.”
Huff isn’t allowed to practice until Thursday, along with the other veteran players who signed contracts since the lockout ended.
*Jackson said it doesn’t appear as if the shoulder injury suffered by rookie cornerback Chimdi Chekwa is anything “major.” Chekwa’s left arm is in a sling as a result of his shoulder popping out during a drill Saturday.
*Jackson said that receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey is day to day. Neither Jackson nor Heyward-Bey will say what’s wrong with Heyward-Bey. He has not practiced since camp began Thursday.
*Chris Johnson said he is eager to get back in the starting lineup after losing the job to Stanford Routt last season. The opportunity is there now that Nnamdi Asomugha no longer is around to lay claim to the right side.
“I always looked as myself as a starter in this league,” Johnson said. “My whole thing was, once I lost that starting spot last year, I always looked at myself as a starter, so I don’t really worry about getting back in the lineup. It’s just a business. And like I said, at the same, I’ve been hungry the whole time so it’s just my time to get back in and do what I know I can do and show everybody what I can do.”
*Shaughnessy is the hardest-working player in camp, according to Jackson. It’s only a matter of time before he gets the kind of leaguewide recognition he deserves, Jackson added.
“I’ve said earlier this year, that I think he’s about to hit his stride and I really believe that,” Jackson said. “I think he’s close. He’s got to do it consistently over time, like any players does in this league that people say are great players. But he works at it and there’s not a harder worker on this football team and there’s not another player with more desire than he has, so he’s getting there. He’s very close in my opinion.”
*Jackson spent an inordinate amount of time talking about the myriad players who have shined during the early part of camp. We’ll let Hue take it from here:
“I’m not going to tell you that there’s a surprise,” Jackson said. “I’m very excited about what our quarterback is doing. I think Jason (Campbell) is doing a fantastic job. He’s doing really good job. (Rolando) McClain, is doing a good job. Tyvon Branch is everything I’ve said he is. I feel very comfortable where he is and where he’s going.
“Obviously, Jared Veldheer, he’s second year in the league. (Stefen) Wisniewski, I mean ’cause he’s playing center. He’s playing a lot of snaps and he’s running the show up there and he’s done a tremendous job. Obviously, Louis Murphy today just had an outstanding day.
“But there’s so many players I could talk about, individually, but collectively, I think our whole team is starting to get it, of what it takes to play, week in and week out, day in and day out every time you walk out here on this field, to get better. That’s probably what I’m most excited about. The team, the attitude, the conviction of coming out here with a purpose to play. I mean, there’s young men out there now working at their skill. That’s what it takes. These guys what to be good and there’s no substitute for hard work.”
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July 31st, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Long live Al.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Need a big year from you Chris…
July 31st, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Raiders coach Hue Jackson just revealed to the media in his Sunday news conference that second-year wide receiver Jacoby Ford suffered a broken left hand and could be out a couple of weeks
NOT GOOD.
aig-raiders Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 7:01 pm
ok Grad was just Sirius confirming that Miller is tending offers and Grad is actively trying to get him to Cinci. I hope we dont lose Miller.
NOT GOOD.
408RAIDER Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Ford with 1 mitt > DHB
NO BRAINER.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Hopefully Ford is back soon. With a short practice season this isn’t good news…
July 31st, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Steve bringing the heat. Good job. Thats the kind of stuff we are looking for. Now if you can keep us updated a bit more often when pertinent news develops, Jerry would really be a thing of the past. This post was a big step in that direction.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Get off jerry jock already geez
July 31st, 2011 at 7:41 pm
It sounds like Wiz 1.0 can coach. Good.
It sounds like Chaz is our #1. Good.
Ford with 1 mitt > DHB (too effin funny man. Good one. Sad but true)
Later.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Was neva on Jerry’s jock. Get that straight fella.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Thanks Steve C. for giving us the quick update on Mr. Ford’s hand injury (your last blog); it’s not his knee or ankle so I know he will be running back kicks and end arounds to the goal line soon.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Jackson exudes confidence and positive energy. He leaves no doubt who is in charge and he is comfortable in his role as leader, which is so different from things under Cable.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Hendu,
I don’t “really” want Miller gone, but I don’t think we need to break the bank for a TE. Miller has had a lot of chances to sign with us, starting BEFORE the lockout.
If he wants to come back, a la Huff, he’s more than welcome. If he had to be the highest paid TE in the league to play for the Raiders, I say let him walk.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:50 pm
I don’t even think DHB is physically injured, perhaps it is pride after being asked to take the league minimum or get clipped. Something seems fishy about the DHb situation.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:50 pm
great to hear Mr. Shaughnessy is going to get to opposing qbs and Mr. Vehldeer is listening and learning;
I see Mr. Huff and Mr. C. Johnson competing for #2 CB position
Mr. Brown is competing for the FS position with Mr. Branch & 34mm will win the SS job
great to hear UFDA and practice squad palyers are not settling for part-time positions.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Why would the staff need to be secretive about DHB’s injury status. It is not as if his presence on or the field provides a competitive advantage.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Louis Murphy this year 50 catches 800 yds 12tds
July 31st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
All your guy’s jokes are fine but What DHB is or what he does will be displayed on the field. If he can’t it’ll show if he can you’ll see no matter how YOU personally feel about him.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
im tellin ya
July 31st, 2011 at 7:58 pm
In my opinion needs at this point:
Miller-TE
Waters-G
Cro-CB
Captain Kirk-WLB
Vet WR-Floyd, Mason, or TJ
I’ll take 3 out of 5
July 31st, 2011 at 7:58 pm
was hoping to read Raiders signed Waters, ended up reading jacoby broke his hand, Mr. T. Brown recovewred from a knee injury so this should be nothing for Ford he was tough last season, I expect nothing less this season.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:58 pm
i see dhb getting traded honestly…really though
July 31st, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Go Raiders! Always love this time of year. Hope springs eternal.
Really glad these guys look amazing in practice.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Our system and tremendous running attack can make a good TE great! I want Miller back because he is a really good TE, but we can win with a TE with less ability.
Bush will be here no question. Either that or someone is giving us a 1st and 3rd next year!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:00 pm
The most we can get for DHB is a 5th. He still has a huge upside, I believe he lacks confidence.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:00 pm
18.
Enough everybody about morrison..HES SOFT!! Thats why hes gone!!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Mr. HUff stepped up his football game after his Sound FX was aired; I think he was embaraased and knew he had to be more aggressive.
Glad to see him come back he had a great second half last year.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I think hes on the sideline cuz they are saying fu** it..he sucks..lets get a 5th..Sounds like denarius moore is gona be this years jacoby type guy..Our recieving core just got better i think
July 31st, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I don’t understand how any REAL Raider fan can hate DHB! He didn’t draft himself at #7! All he has done since he has been here is work hard, stay positive, and help all he can. He drops balls. So did a lot of young WRs. Everyone hating on him doesn’t help anything!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
This is DHB’s make or break year, Andre Johnson was considered a chump till he lit it up his 3rd year.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Raiders need to sign LB Tatupu.
Seahawks just gave him his release.
Wimbley McClain Tatupu
as our linebacker corp would be awesome
July 31st, 2011 at 8:06 pm
It sounds like dmac is the sh*t. Dude is going to dominate
July 31st, 2011 at 8:06 pm
27.
Not hating, i stay with our draft picks til the end..sometimes the bitter end lol(#2)…dhb did get better last year..unfortunately it was grads who was getting him the ball most the time…dont think campbell trusts dhb worth a d*ck..and honestly man, Ford, chaz, murph are all better than him and he knows it..denarius moore is known for his HANDS! would love to see this kid step up and become that possession reciever me need
July 31st, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Mr. Hetward-Bey will have 5 100+ yd games, score 9 TDs this season.
then Al will tell every one to shut up I’m the boss!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:08 pm
And yes this year is DHB’s make or break year..
First play of the season should be a play action to him deep lol, i would love that
July 31st, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Tatupu essentially plays the same position as MCpain MLB. I would keep Mcpain at mlb and get Captain Kirk at WLB.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Ya u are on jerry jock
Get Over It!!!!!!!!!!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 7:05 pm
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Who came up with the term? We need to get together and make a Logo! Probably just Big Bold Black letters “CODE BLACK 2011″
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cant CODE BLACK is an entertainment company…
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B A U C e, you going to the MNF game in Dungver? If so we gotta talk.
I’ll be there DRAPED in Raider gear, talkin all kinda $hitz and backin it up!
I think a CODE BLACK 2011 banner is in order!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Houston Kelley Seymour Shaughnessy
Tatupu McClain Wimbley
magnificent 7
July 31st, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Another thing i wanted to discuss was that i hope we dont COMPLETELY get rid of our zone running game…bush and mac both had alot of succesful runs with that inside/outside zone shizz..the mixture of gap/power and zone really is the best, hope Hue keeps it like that..
July 31st, 2011 at 8:11 pm
keep mcclain at mlb
find out from tatupu what it would take to get him here
July 31st, 2011 at 8:13 pm
jmack Hue alreadt said they will play some ZBS along with power blocking, but that the emphasis will be on power blocking now,
July 31st, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Ideal front 7…
Houston,rich,kelly,shownasty
Goethal,mcclain,wimbley…
July 31st, 2011 at 8:15 pm
40.
Last year many of our running success stemmed from zone, my favorite thing HUE did was bring in that unbalanced line with the extra tackle as the TE..LOVED THAT..kind of what Baltimore did cam camerons first year there…
July 31st, 2011 at 8:16 pm
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I like that front 7 and I believe that is what we are going with, I like Goethel I saw a lot of him at ASU and he is very underrated. He will surprise a lot of people.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:16 pm
I think somebody said it in here a few days ago..”hues got the goods”
July 31st, 2011 at 8:17 pm
DHB is gonna have a solid year and year 4 will be a pretty good player
July 31st, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Goethel looks like the guy from scary movie 2 that has the f*cked me tatoo
July 31st, 2011 at 8:18 pm
yeah 43..
towards the end of the year he was playing over groves right? i remember him in the KC game the whole game..I like McClain and Him there..smart players..cant fu**in wait to see mcclain bust some one up this year man..
July 31st, 2011 at 8:20 pm
McPain is a beast, just ask Sproles.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Defense 3rd and 13
Houston-Rich-Kelly-Shownasty—Wimbley
Routte Huff Mitchell
MCclain
Cromartie
Branch
..Why not have extra DB’s?….lol
July 31st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
huff mcclain mitchell as lbs
July 31st, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Tatupu
2009 Torn pectoral
2010 surgeries on both knees,
a lot of wear on those tires
July 31st, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Wow Jacoby…..less than two weeks before 1st preseason game…..mthfk me!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I dont want jacoby or shilenz to get touched until the opener
July 31st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Well Huff wanted to come back? Thats a positive
July 31st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
“Second-year left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer got beat by defensive end Matt Shaughnessy in a pass-protection drill the first timne they squared off. Wisniewski pulled aside Veldheer, gave him some pointers on his stance and footwork and sent Veldheer back in the line of fire. Veldheer stoned Shaughnessy the next two times.”
Yeah Coach Wiz!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Should be a 3 week injury, not worried at all.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Nice to hear Jhill’s boy Matt S doin his thang………Barksdale will start at RT without a doubt
July 31st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Veldheer….future
July 31st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
DHB u fkin suck!Just retire and go back to Maryland…get ur degree and call it a day
July 31st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Coaching should make a big difference. Especially Wiz and Woodson coaching up those young guys. Is Sanjay Lal still the wide receiver coach? If so this is also his make or break year.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Veldheer + Barksdale= seal them edges
July 31st, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Man our wr coach is al saunders……fk sanjay lal
July 31st, 2011 at 8:37 pm
59.
lol…call it a day
July 31st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Excellent post Steve.. Thanks
Raccoon- If you drape a CODE BLACK 2011 banner at Piled High Stadium… what else could be said other than YOU ARE THE MAN!
I’m beginning to feel we don’t need that vet WR
DMAC and Pain McClain are going to the Pre Bowl this year.. so is ShoNasty
July 31st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I hope the Run D steps it up. It sounds like DMAC is embarrassing them.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
61.
Yeah man..Veldeer and barksdale gona shaaaape that pocket bro..and now we got wiz in the middle..we need to help him out at G. Whos it gona be? Loper? Campbell? Who? lol
July 31st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
What up B@uce? You missed Beech/DisCharge talking to himself today
July 31st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Long live Al.
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Steve! Please get John Herrera off the blog!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
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We need to pick up Brian Waters at G
July 31st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
I’m so excited about DMC going on a beastathon this year… is there anyone in the 2008 draft class you would trade him for?
July 31st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
64.-”I’m beginning to feel we don’t need that vet WR”
Moore is our guy..shotgun 4 wr..shilenz and moore in the slots, murphy and ford out wide
July 31st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I like it Jmack
July 31st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
jmackraider16 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
64.-”I’m beginning to feel we don’t need that vet WR”
Moore is our guy..shotgun 4 wr..shilenz and moore in the slots, murphy and ford out wide
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That’s what I’m talkin’ about… All we need is eachother… band together as a group of men and explode on them!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:51 pm
We need a vet wr for insurance on Glass, DHB might not produce, Ford V12 will get his, Murphy is improving, Moore is a wildcard.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:53 pm
I think they will go get a vet wr, they contacted ocho. So that tells me Al is looking for a vet wr
July 31st, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Can wait for the Coach Davis presser on his take of this years team. Gonna be a good one. Hue at his side. Raiders ready to roll.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Jacoby will have all the time he needs to get well, right up til opening night…
DHb just may be getting a little of that old ‘Scholarship’, while the rooks get used to the NFL.
At least that’s my best case scenario,
cause if he’s “nick’d” already, could be along season,
for a guy who i thought will break out,
especially if J12, Chaz and Murphy are all in the mix.
Need to see M Bush and Zach back in the fold too.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Ford should be in the slot, to take advantage of mismatches
July 31st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
just a compilation of Al’s handpicked gems bunched up into one recieving core..height, speed, hands, all(except moore cuz i havnt seen him play a snap) with big play capabilty…feel like murphy is gona be the best overall balanced of the group..the rest are so dang talented though..cannot wait to see that go down..this year if shilenz stays healthy(such a qb friendly target), Murphy will excel..and then there is Obi one Jacoby..need i say more
July 31st, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I think Moore won’t see too much action this year, he’s the insurance for DHB, if he doesn’t step up than Moore will make it that much easier to cut DHB after this season. And as far as the Trent Edwards thing, i’ve seen a lot of his games while he was in Buffalo. Smart and has a good arm, but after his second concussion he lost his confidence and started making really stupid plays. Plus he lost confidence with everyone rallying around Fitzgerald, sort of like what cambell went through the first half of last season. But since he passed a physical i can see hue and al s coaching him up to be a strong back up, and maybe provide a solid option for next year when cambells contract is up.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I’m standing pat with these receivers. I only wish I had a way to get them all more playing time… They’ve been developing here for years and the time has come… they are READY… close the gates, fold your arms and just silently shake your head no when those FA wideouts come knockin’
July 31st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Sproles bailed out of the Conference just to get away from McClain
July 31st, 2011 at 9:02 pm
“I could have (left), yeah, but like this whole time I didn’t take any visits, didn’t take any phone calls or nothing,”Huff said. ”They called, but I didn’t answer.”
You know……. this MIGHT be complete B.S. because he knows he’ll get a lot of roll out of the loyaly angle (probably after reading this blog and watching everybody pick up torches and pitch-forks to follow Aso out of town), but it still raised my estimation of the guys character and dedication. If that’s the way he REALLY feels, we may have another emerging leader on the defense. I like dedication. I like genuine dedication even better, and I hope Huff comes through.
Excellent fix, Steve. Get a good nights sleep because we’ll want more in the morning.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:02 pm
78.
Schilenz is that guy on 3rd and 10 you throw that 12 yd curl to…from the slot…
Jacoby is on the outside taking the safety away..I dont think jacoby has refined his game enough to run those lil cut routes from the slot, for screens yeah, but i think on a key down you will see schilenz there..
Only part that sucks tho is that i want Jacoby in there when we line up with 2 WR cuz he dont need much help when we get that play action goin theres no other guy i want out there running fly’s….ughh…However, thats why we have Hue lol
July 31st, 2011 at 9:04 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Sproles bailed out of the Conference just to get away from McClain
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Big Daddy McClain is gonna get that a$$ again the third game of the preseason.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Night fellas..
Go Raiders!
CODE BLACK 2011
July 31st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Sad to hear about Ford. But injuries are part of the game. And with the Raiders you never know when he’ll be back in the swing of things.
Love or hate Hue Jakin…He has this team competing and busting there as$es. He is def the right man for the job.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:13 pm
At least Ford can still practice running routes. That’s the important thing.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
no ford=more time for everyone else lol
July 31st, 2011 at 9:18 pm
70.SilverNutSack Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
I’m so excited about DMC going on a beastathon this year… is there anyone in the 2008 draft class you would trade him for?
………………………………
Ryan Clady.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:19 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Excellent post Steve.. Thanks
Raccoon- If you drape a CODE BLACK 2011 banner at Piled High Stadium… what else could be said other than YOU ARE THE MAN!
I’m beginning to feel we don’t need that vet WR
DMAC and Pain McClain are going to the Pre Bowl this year.. so is ShoNasty
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I got big Silver and Black Balls bro, it shall be done!
July 31st, 2011 at 9:20 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Excellent post Steve.. Thanks
Raccoon- If you drape a CODE BLACK 2011 banner at Piled High Stadium… what else could be said other than YOU ARE THE MAN!
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I got big Silver and Black Balls bro, it shall be done!
July 31st, 2011 at 9:22 pm
DHB gotta get his a$$ on the field man!! We need to know what this “tooth-ache” is all about!! Are they packing it in with DHB Steve!?? Being there you must get the feeling….answers..now..lol
July 31st, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Bring it.
http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/clubimages/2011/07-July/_T7D2252–nfl_medium_540_360.jpg
July 31st, 2011 at 9:26 pm
lol love it…
July 31st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
jmackraider16 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 9:22 pm
DHB gotta get his a$$ on the field man!! We need to know what this “tooth-ache” is all about!! Are they packing it in with DHB Steve!?? Being there you must get the feeling….answers..now..lol
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He’s fine. They just remember last year when DHB pulled a hammy early on in camp and it set him back basically all season. They want to ease him in. And after Ford broke his hand, that is probably not a bad idea.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:31 pm
They better not cut whoever this is.
http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/clubimages/2011/07-July/_R1K1978–nfl_medium_540_360.jpg
July 31st, 2011 at 9:33 pm
96. Good call
i remember the hammy pull..he was beat for training camp.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Morilla, isn’t that Ford?
July 31st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
morilla Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 9:31 pm
They better not cut whoever this is.
http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/clubimages/2011/07-July/_R1K1978–nfl_medium_540_360.jpg
this is jacoby ford
July 31st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
DHB=booooooooo!
July 31st, 2011 at 9:36 pm
JHill-whenever possible,even in winter.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
DHBz is beat for his career
July 31st, 2011 at 9:38 pm
we need 2 vet wr cuz injurys are part of the game
July 31st, 2011 at 9:38 pm
4 days your teammates bustin their tails and u not doin schit
July 31st, 2011 at 9:39 pm
103. lol..sh*t
July 31st, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Cut DHB….get a vet wr mmaybe two
July 31st, 2011 at 9:40 pm
*Free safety Michael Huff said he was amused by all the stories during the offseason that had him headed to the Dallas Cowboys or somewhere else. He said he and the Raiders had an understanding that he would be back once he was allowed to re-sign. It wasn’t that he didn’t have any other offers, though.
“I could have (left), yeah, but like this whole time I didn’t take any visits, didn’t take any phone calls or nothing,”Huff said. ”They called, but I didn’t answer.”
Huff said he still is the free safety. However, he intends to “do it all.”
“Whatever the defense needs, I’ll do it,” Huff said. “I’ll play dime, I’ll play a little linebacker in there – I’m not really too big but I’ll do anything to help the defense. I just want to win. That’s the main thing is to win and make plays.”
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this is why i can understand people are disappointed/angry with Nnamdi.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Bout sick of this schit already with this loser
July 31st, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Saucy Boss man, you going to the MNF game at Pile High?
July 31st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I’m not going to MileLow stadium to be around those piss ant south park reject people
July 31st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Hope to wake up to a miller bush waters and cro signings. One at a time is cool with me
July 31st, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Raccoon- If you drape a CODE BLACK 2011 banner at Piled High Stadium… what else could be said other than YOU ARE THE MAN!
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I got big Silver and Black Balls bro, it shall be done!
if so u will be on tv fashow
July 31st, 2011 at 9:47 pm
DHB do the honorable thing and retire….stop embarrassing yourself,your family and the entire Raider group
July 31st, 2011 at 9:50 pm
We don’t need any overpaid,head case,castoff,veteran WRs.The ones we have will do just fine.All they need is time and experience and they won’t get it sitting,watching some guy who couldn’t keep a job on another team.Too many of you,and B,you are one of them,don’t get it.It is like the real world-you want a job,you need experience;you don’t have experience,you can’t have the job.Give the kids we have experience and we won’t have to talk about other teams experienced guys.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Suppose DHB does go.Who will be the next guy you guys hate?Every year you pick a new one.
July 31st, 2011 at 9:54 pm
dhb take a pay cut or put incentives on his contract
July 31st, 2011 at 9:56 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I’m not going to MileLow stadium to be around those piss ant south park reject people
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I’m going bro, DRAPED in every piece of Raider gear I own, and gonna hang a CODE BLACK 2011 banner on there assssses!
July 31st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Lefty u can say what u want but that guy is stealin money and snaps from others. He is awful. I way past get it….he sucks to holy hell
July 31st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Sproles bailed out of the Conference just to get away from McClain
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Word on the street is he called Al and asked if he could play for us…he said he would take the minimum.
Chiefs and Broncos called…he did not answer the phone!
I’m assuming he’ll end up with the Eagles, Rams…some team we’re not playing this year!
July 31st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I saw some scouting reports on barksdale and everyone said he was a beast and a first round pick,he may be the steal of the draft.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Lefty guys that aint gettin it done get cast off by me….oh fkin well if its harsh but so is life
July 31st, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Anyways….at yall tomorrow….dhb can go to hell
July 31st, 2011 at 10:03 pm
dhb gets outshined by late draft picks..first year we got him and murphy right off the bat i saw murphy was the right guy…
July 31st, 2011 at 10:04 pm
That is your opinion which you are entitled to.I don’t happen to share it and I doubt the people running the team do either.We shall see.You may be proven totally correct.Then again,you may be proven totally wrong.The difference between us is i believe he deserves the opportunity to prove which one of us is correct,while you don’t-your mind is made up.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:07 pm
but who knows…i hope he gets better..i think half of it is the qb not trustin to throw to him..grads got dhb the ball dont forget that..
July 31st, 2011 at 10:08 pm
and u no hue is gona get dhb some screens and reverses and what not too
July 31st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
92.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 9:20 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Excellent post Steve.. Thanks
Raccoon- If you drape a CODE BLACK 2011 banner at Piled High Stadium… what else could be said other than YOU ARE THE MAN!
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I got big Silver and Black Balls bro, it shall be done!
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The NATION will owe you a high five and a pitcher of beer.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:21 pm
jmackraider16 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:08 pm
and u no hue is gona get dhb some screens and reverses and what not too
i hope he has a dmac season he works hard but i dont really like dhb
July 31st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Glad Raiders were able to keep at least one out of the two DB’s between Nnamdi and Huff. Losing both would have been disastrous to the defensive backfield. Branch and Mitchell can’t cover and have no range at the lone FS spot and Brown is still too young and inexperienced.
With Ford being hurt now until the start of the season most likely, I think the Raiders need to go after WR Malcolm Floyd. I would much rather seem them get a potential #1 WR ahead of someone like Cromartie.
Then resign Z Miller of course and add one more O-Linemen.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
DHB = Pitos
July 31st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I understand the fact most didn’t like the DHB choice when it was made-neither did I.I believe he was drafted for the potential he had.Many on here want him gone without allowing him the opportunity to fulfill that potential.I don’t agree.Given the price we’ve paid he deserves time to succeed.He isn’t like ‘the bust’ where he doesn’t care-he works his behind off.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Bummer about Jacoby..
But, did you see that nut job Travis Pastrana crawl into a rally car, with a badly busted ankle/foot and RACE the damn thing at the X games today?
So, I think Jacoby can at least catch some passes from Charlie Frye on the side, lord knows he can’t throw hard enough to hurt Ford’s hand any more than it already is…
CODE BLACK 2011………<—–Endorsed by 909!
July 31st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
16.priesttj Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
All your guy’s jokes are fine but What DHB is or what he does will be displayed on the field. If he can’t it’ll show if he can you’ll see no matter how YOU personally feel about him.
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I think most Raider fans would like to see him succeed, DHB makes an awful lot of money for didley shwoo hoo squat. I hope he can turn it around and he can prove 90% of the fans wrong. IMO
July 31st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
I would rather see the Raiders sign WR Malcolm Floyd instead of Cromartie!
July 31st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I want to see them sign Floyd and LB Crowder and then resign Miller.
Then add another O-Linemen at a bargain price.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:38 pm
DKnight007 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I want to see them sign Floyd and LB Crowder and then resign Miller.
Then add another O-Linemen at a bargain price
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I think at this point of FA….Al is shoppin at Wal Mart.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:38 pm
NoLuv4Hoes Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
DHB = Pitos
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hahahahahhahahahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 31st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Cromartie to the Jets.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
# Raiders for life Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:38 pm
DKnight007 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I want to see them sign Floyd and LB Crowder and then resign Miller.
Then add another O-Linemen at a bargain price
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I think at this point of FA….Al is shoppin at Wal Mart.
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LOL…I don’t want them to overpay for Cromartie and if he comes here ahead of the Jets, the Raiders will overpay…big time. Ugh
July 31st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
DKnight007 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
I would rather see the Raiders sign WR Malcolm Floyd instead of Cromartie!
DKnight007 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I want to see them sign Floyd and LB Crowder and then resign Miller.
Then add another O-Linemen at a bargain price.
thats alot of wants get edwards on an incentive loaded deal and T.O. as well
July 31st, 2011 at 10:43 pm
My two bits on Nnamdi leaving….
Figured it was a loooongshot after Al’s, Hues hired/Cable’s under the bus presser. When Al said he could pay 2 or 3 players for the dough it would take to keep him…
That being said, I kinda got caught up in the hype after a few days passed and he hadn’t signed with anyone, thought maybe, just maybe he just may stay..
Now that he’s gone, I harbor no ill will towards him..
Just remember… O picks, 0 sacks, 0 fumble recoverys won’t fly in Philly…
July 31st, 2011 at 10:45 pm
I think at this point of FA….Al is shoppin at Wal Mart.
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More like Good Will……
July 31st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/08/jets_agree_to_terms_with_corne.html
July 31st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
16.priesttj Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
All your guy’s jokes are fine but What DHB is or what he does will be displayed on the field. If he can’t it’ll show if he can you’ll see no matter how YOU personally feel about him.
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I think most Raider fans would like to see him succeed, DHB makes an awful lot of money for didley shwoo hoo squat. I hope he can turn it around and he can prove 90% of the fans wrong. IMO
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I would like to see DHB succeed but at this point I just hate to see Al get stung for that large amount of cash especially after getting stung by JR and his agent.
DHB hasn’t exactly given out any nuggets of hope other than his speed. But you must catch the damn ball.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:48 pm
139.YoungAmerican Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Cromartie to the Jets.
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I’m good with that. Not because of attitude or abilities, I just don’t see room for him when the Raiders are struggling to re-sign their own players.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:43 pm
My two bits on Nnamdi leaving….
Figured it was a loooongshot after Al’s, Hues hired/Cable’s under the bus presser. When Al said he could pay 2 or 3 players for the dough it would take to keep him…
That being said, I kinda got caught up in the hype after a few days passed and he hadn’t signed with anyone, thought maybe, just maybe he just may stay..
Now that he’s gone, I harbor no ill will towards him..
Just remember… O picks, 0 sacks, 0 fumble recoverys won’t fly in Philly…
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Here’s the deal: why should opposing teams throw Nnamdi’s way when the pickins are easier on the rest of the field. Why go there at all?
But what I don’t understand is why Nnamdi would line up on a #2 or #3 wide reciever when he should man up to the best.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Cromartie to the Jets.
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Thats why it just doesnt do any good to make a wish list for Uncle Al. We will make do with who we got. Its all up to the coaches to coach the players up and get them ready. Gonna be a pressure cooker for the coaches.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
The market for Edwards has been soft, and the former Jets receiver might come cheaper than originally expected.
get him al come on
July 31st, 2011 at 10:57 pm
lefty i agree with u. i dont mind getting guys who can clearly make a difference. we must give our young guys a chance if we want them to get better. b has a long way to go imo. too much instant gratification is what runs the world nowadays. we drafted these guys so u have to let some of them play.oline needs bodies so we have no choice but to sign people. we could use more lb’s cuz we really arent that deep. dhb needs to prove he can play but will only do that if he plays. i really get sick of this self righteous know it all attitude in here. do we root for all of the raiders or just the ones we like? thats the problem in here. u guys talk about al davis scholarships yet u have your own.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Steve, awesome!
July 31st, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Al getting T Edwards was a smart move if you think about the big picture (Als’ picture).
He’s got players out there on the practice field. Returners and draftees.
What the big man did was to go out and get coaches and put the pressure on them. Hue can handle the pressure. But if the Raiders dont win, Al will have steam coming out of his ears.
Frye will get cut and Edwards and Boeller can duke it out for 2 & 3. Al is done spending. Probably felt he spent more on coaches this year than ever before, so it is on them.
I like it.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:03 pm
thats alot of wants get edwards on an incentive loaded deal and T.O. as well
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Can Owens still walk? I thought he was hobblin around at St. mercy hospital.
Jokin aside I’m good with little Nicky, at least he can get his bell rung and not biach an moan about it.
I know nick is getting cut, just saying.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Another thought Al may of had, by not going after players in the FA market, he’s saying to the players hes’ got out there that he has confidence in them. Why get a Heap or a Ocho or Plax or anybody when he’s got the guys hes’ got.
And fist slam the pressure onto the coaches to make them winners.
Gotta love it.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
92.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 9:20 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Excellent post Steve.. Thanks
Raccoon- If you drape a CODE BLACK 2011 banner at Piled High Stadium… what else could be said other than YOU ARE THE MAN!
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I got big Silver and Black Balls bro, it shall be done!
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The NATION will owe you a high five and a pitcher of beer.
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This is cool!
July 31st, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Al has all the faith in the world in Hue to make these guys winners. Losing isnt even in the equation.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:12 pm
68.hendu Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 7:36 pm
JHill,not with ya on this one!Dave Casper,Todd C,Raymond Chester,all GREAT receivers,MONEY players!!The RAIDERS have always looked to the Tight End,period!Miller may have the BEST hands on the Team,cant think of anyone else,can anyone?That said,RAIDERS!!!!!!!
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Good solid point.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:14 pm
73. SilverNutSack Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
jmackraider16 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
64. -”I’m beginning to feel we don’t need that vet WR”
Moore is our guy..shotgun 4 wr..shilenz and moore in the slots, murphy and ford out wide
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I feel where y’all are coming from but a vet WR who can make plays for 1-2 seasons and show this young receiving corps some nuances of the position that only come with experience will help build a stronger future. Coach Val a’int enough.
I’m thinking Derrick Mason.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:25 pm
derrick went to a superbowl right i will take that
July 31st, 2011 at 11:27 pm
why did everyone make a big deal about the raiders being over the cap when dallas had to cut hella players to sign some of their own? raiders werent any worse off than some other teams and some of yall just staight biotched. i believe we will sign a few quality guys this week now that the market is dry. there are several players that have gotten a reality check. now is when u clean up and get a lot of depth for cheap.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:30 pm
INITIATE CODE BLACK
July 31st, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Against All Odds: NFL Players Association Emerges From Lockout as Bruised, Battered Victors
By Dave Zirin
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A sports media consensus on the end of the NFL lockout has already emerged. Like six year old kids getting trophies after soccer practice, everyone’s a winner. As Don Banks at Sports Illustrated, assessed, thrilled that the golden goose will lay eggs another day, “Neither side got everything they wanted, but good negotiations are like that. Now that this CBA fight is almost over, and labor peace seems finally at hand, both the players and the owners have the right to claim success.”
These parroted assessments, by focusing on the final score, miss the true, overarching story of the longest work stoppage in NFL history: at the opening kickoff, the sides weren’t close to evenly matched. I think that what the NFLPA has done is the equivalent of the Bad News Bears squeaking out a victory against the 1927 New York Yankees. It’s The Haiti Kid taking down King Kong Bundy. It’s workers, in an age of austerity, beating back the bosses and showing that solidarity is the only way to win.
When the lockout began, NFL’s owners had, in their judgment, and frankly mine as well, every possible advantage. They had a promise from their television partners of four billion dollars in “lockout insurance” even if the games didn’t air. They had a workforce with a career shelf-life of 3.4 years, understandably skittish about missing a single paycheck. And most critically, they had what they thought was overwhelming public opinion. After all, in past labor disputes, fans sided against those who “get paid to play a game.” Owners wanted more money and longer seasons and approached negotiations with an arrogance that would shame a Murdoch spawn.
I remember talking to NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith at the start of this process, and hearing his optimism in the face of these odds, as he spoke of the bravery of workers in Wisconsin and the people of Egypt who he said were inspiring him to fight the good fight. He mentioned the books he was reading like the classic Civil Rights history Parting the Waters: America in the King Years by Taylor Branch. I remember smiling politely at De Smith and thinking, “This guy is going to get creamed.”
I was very wrong. I didn’t count on Judge David Doty, a Reagan appointee, putting an injunction on that four billion dollar lockout slush fund, taking away the owner’s financial upper hand. I didn’t count on the way that health and safety issues would bond the players together, making defections among the 1,900 players nonexistent. I didn’t count on the way many fans, upset at the lockout and well-educated on the after-effects of the brutality of the sport, would side with the players. I lastly didn’t count on the way that reservoirs of bitterness felt by NFL players and the union would bind them together against NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and an ownership group that had just lied to them once too often.
They stuck it out and now, the end results of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, look quite good for players. We are looking at a 10 year CBA in which minimum salaries will go up 10% a year for the life of the agreement. Players get a slightly lower % of revenues (about 46% down from 50%), but they will receive 55% of future national media revenue, which, will mushroom in the years ahead. Teams also will now have to spend at least 90% of the salary cap on actual salaries. In other words, there won’t just be a salary cap there will be a salary floor. In return, rookies will need to sign four year contracts that are scaled at a lower rate. The net affect of all of this, is that veteran salaries will go up perhaps quite dramatically, and if players can stay healthy beyond that fourth year, they will be very well compensated.
But there’s the rub. If the average career is only 3.4 years, how can players be ensured to stay healthy enough to get the big payday? Here is where I think the NFLPA made the most headway. Not only did they beat back the owner’s dream of an 18 game season, they also negotiated a much less arduous off-season regimen. The off-season program will now be five weeks shorter. There will be more days off. Full-contact practices are going to be greatly curtailed. This matters because in will limit not just the wear and tear on players bodies, but also concussions and other brain injuries which are far more likely to happen in repetitive drills than in games.
Also when careers finally do end, players can now be a part of the NFL’s health plan for life. This is a mammoth deal for players who previously were kicked off of all plans five years after retirement. Getting private insurance after playing in the NFL is a nightmare, as your body is a spiderweb of pre-existing conditions. Retirees also will now receive up to a $1 billion increase in benefits, with $620 million going to increasing pensions for those who retired before 1993.
Yes, owners received a bigger piece of the pie, and yes they received their rookie pay scale. Yes, I agree with Brian Frederick, director of the Sports Fans Coalition, who commented today, that it’s a problem that “Fans were forced to sit on the sidelines during these negotiations, despite the massive public subsidies and antitrust exemptions we grant the league.” This is especially true given the fact that, as SFC reported, “Thirty-one of the 32 NFL stadiums have received direct public subsidies. Ten of those have been publicly financed and at least 19 are 75% publicly financed.”
But in the end, this deal – against all odds – is a victory for players, their families, their health, and their long-term financial solvency. It’s also an example for workers across the country. There is power in labor and there is power in solidarity.
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2011-07-25-639/index.html
July 31st, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Armond….i dont have a long way to go at all. DHB just sux man. Even guys who I campaigned for in the past…fked up or didnt perform aand they had to go. All this nice guy schit has brought us what lately? We need to wait to find out if a guy sucks? How long did we wait for Gallery? We cant do that again. This guy dhb aint did nada and year 3 as I did with russell its put up or shut up. No more excuses……good nite
July 31st, 2011 at 11:57 pm
So…Trent Edwards, Michael Huff…and who else?
Out of a free agent pool that included Chad OchoCinco, Albert Haynesworth, Nnamdi Asomugha, Antonio Cromartie, Plaxico Burress, and numerous other big names? Edwards, Huff, some lineman, forgot his name… Can’t they see that the Raiders are heading upward under Hue Jackson? Weird.
July 31st, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Correction…some of those guys were traded. Nonetheless, they were on the market, either via the trading block or free agency. I wonder why the Raiders hardly made a splash this year. Usually when a team’s heading upward, players are tripping over themselves to get there. Just doesn’t compute.
August 1st, 2011 at 12:17 am
Al made some bad deals, the Nnamdi deal a few years back to name one, and the Russell contract for another, so getting his own back this year will have to be enough.
These guys can win, but they have to play better than they did last year.
Go Raiders!
August 1st, 2011 at 12:21 am
165 good point
August 1st, 2011 at 9:11 am
Correction…some of those guys were traded. Nonetheless, they were on the market, either via the trading block or free agency. I wonder why the Raiders hardly made a splash this year. Usually when a team’s heading upward, players are tripping over themselves to get there. Just doesn’t compute.
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Oh Boo Frickety Hoo. Al has learned from Javon Walker and DeAngelo Hall to cautious in FA and NOT dole out insane money deals, but instead to wait for the bargains, particularly in a year where there is no cap room.
So this time your b*tch is that by not throwing the monopolu money around, Al Davis isn’t acting enough like Al Davis to suit you? You should be happy about his frugality and caution . . . unless you are a troll and a non-fan who just looks for reasons to be a malcontent.
If Miller is signed, considering the cap situation, this FA is a win for Al Davis 100%. Nnamdi was going to leave any way.
August 7th, 2011 at 8:43 am
It’s just curious that they refuse to talk about what’s wrong with DHB. Every other player that is NICKED up they have said what is wrong. Maybe it’s something to do with his contract. Incentives that aren’t reached he doesn’t get a bonus or something.
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