Raiders practice notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 1st, 2011 at 8:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Filling in for Steve Corkran with some practice notes . . .
– Best news about Al Saunders bringing in some of his “Greatest Show on Turf” ideas from his days with the St. Louis Rams?
It means Darren McFadden gets to play Marshall Faulk.
I say this every year at training camp, but McFadden might be the Raiders best receiver. He glided into a swing pass at full speed and made Rolando McClain look like a cardboard cut-out.
– To be fair, McClain was in the middle of a lot of plays during the padded practice, and seemed to take particular delight in hammering Rock Cartwright whenver the opportunity arose.
– After a rough couple of early practices, seventh-round draft pick David Ausberry, a converted wide receiver out of USC, has flashed some playmaking ability.
– Still no practice for Darrius Heyward-Bey. He’s missed the first five sessions with an undisclosed injury (they’re almost all undisclosed this year) and as much as Hue Jackson says he thinks things are fine, it’s hard not to look at it as a problem.
Heyward-Bey needs these practices as much if not more than anyone to gain some traction and do something with his third season. Chaz Schilens, meanwhile, hasn’t missed a session, is playing hard, catching the ball and doing enough to inspire optimism. Keep your fingers crossed . . .
– Tight end Kevin Brock couldn’t adjust under a throw by Jason Campbell in the end zone, but on the following play burned Jerome Boyd for a touchdown form Kyle Boller.
– Wide receiver Louis Murphy continues to excite and infuriate. He looks like the most polished receiver in camp right up to the moment he has the inexplicable drop. It happened today on a perfect pass from Jason Campbell on a medium deep route against rookie DeMarcus Van Dyke.
– Wide reciever Jacoby Ford was wearing a heavy cast on his left hand and probably had surgery, although the Raiders won’t say. Pressed for a time table, coach Hue Jackson would only say he thought Ford would play in the opener on Sept. 12 against Denver.
– Amazing how things can change in a day. The mood regarding tight end Zach Miller was optimistic on Sunday, with one team source saying that details were being worked out on a deal.
That all changed Monday with the news Miller was in Seattle visiting the Seahawks.
The Raiders essentially let Miller wait while giving big money contracts to Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt and now Kamerion Wimbley, with guaranteed money totaling $71.5 million.
Yet they let Miller, their best offensive player over the past four years, sit and wait.
Part of the issue is economics _ tight ends are lower on the economic totum pole than rush ends, cornerbacks and potential Hall of Fame defensive tackles.
But the feeling persists that if the Raiders had given Miller a good offer before the lockout, as they did Routt and Seymour, this wouldn’t be an issue.
If Miller leaves, it’s a body blow to a team that for better or worse, has seen most of its offseason plan of bringing back the players they wanted come to fruition.
Kevin Boss (New York Giants) is probably the best available UFA tight end.
– Safety Mike Mitchell was out today with an undisclosed injury. Rookie running back Taiwan Jones remains out with what is probably a hamstring injury. With Ford and Jones out, Nick Miller is getting plenty of work and is flashing as he has the past two camps. He’s the modern day Kenny Shedd of summer football.
Rookies Van Dyke and Denarius Moore have gotten a look returning kickoffs.
– How’s this for an economic boon?
The Raiders invoked a $3.5 million buyback to $635,000 in salary to retain Wimbley in February, meaning he was set to make $4.135 million.
Except an obscure “30 percent rule” for players in the final year of their contracts voided the deal. Wimbley made $2.1 million, meaning his salary would have almost doubled.
To avoid losing him, the Raiders made him an exclusive franchise free agent _ for a one-year salary of $11.3 million. That’s right _ it’s illegal to raise his salary to $4.135 million but perfectly legal to make it $11.3, because the latter was a new contract.
And now Wimbley is making a reported $29 million guaranteed.
Sometimes, life is kind.
– Scout.com reported Mario Henderson may be back in the picture. He is said to be in Napa, although he hasn’t been spotted by any media to my knowledge. As for Seattle middle linebacker Lofa Tatupu, he’s reportedly on his way to Washington, D.C. to visit the Redskins after talking with the Raiders.
Jackson made it clear McClain is the Raiders’ middle linebacker and hinted Tatupu would have to move if he came here. Given that Tatupu has been an every down linebacker who wouldn’t take a pay cut from $4 million, it’s hard to imagine him coming here to be a player who leaves during nickel and dime defenses and a moderate salary.
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August 1st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Al is God.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Can we Tag Miller?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
first again biatchss
August 1st, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Tally of the 3 supposed great players Al claimed he could replace Nnamdi with:
Still at 0.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:28 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I’ve learned that it’s next to impossible to reason with a guy that claims to be an expert in Asian Male analysis based on “his 2 Asian male acquaintance” God forbid you actually move their status from acquaintance to friend. Then, you’ll prob qualify to teach Asian Male culture at the local community college at that point.
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This coming from a guy who read a book on Malcolm X and calls blacks House N Words, lol.
Makes jokes about a black person hiring Al Sharpton.
Too Gawd Damn Funny.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Beetlejuice (aka BeAlwaysUrself) is what Al Sharpton and AIG both would call a crack head.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
From twitter…
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
by RaidersBlog
still waiting for more news on Zach Miller. Seahawks and Raiders going at it.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
To be fair, McClain was in the middle of a lot of plays during the padded practice, and seemed to take particularly delight in hammering Rock Cartwright whenver the opportunity arose.
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Rolando is just not a very nice guy I’m starting to believe.
Over/Under on how many RB’s “Lidz” puts in a ball-cap this season?
2.5
August 1st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Beetlejuice (aka BeAlwaysUrself) is what Tyrone Biggums would call a crack head, too.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
LA, no only one tag per year and the deadline is in March so no.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
if you want to go at it for round 2, you go on ahead.
I’ll go back to ignoring your wonderful posts.
Unless I find your math to be grossly miscalculated.
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So many conflicting thoughts in ONE paragraph?
LMFAO!
Like ANYONE ever would believd you ignore my posts. We’ve all read that from you, what, 100 times?
So which one is it AIG?
Should I go for round 2?
Should I leave you alone since you are ignoring me?
Or should I go ahead and go for round 2 since you aren’t really ignoring me while looking for math errors?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
There you are Jerry, already filling in for Steve?
Heyward-Bey needs these practices as much if not more than anyone to gain some traction and do something with his third season. Chaz Schilens, meanwhile, hasn’t missed a session, is playing hard, catching the ball and doing enough to inspire optimism. Keep your fingers crossed . . .
One thing I’ve found about Steve, is it appears at times he lacks opinion, like this!
August 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Corkran already gave up…
August 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I made it!
August 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
sh1t id be made to if i was Miller…by far the most consistent raiders ( besides nnamdi) over the last 4-5 years…
August 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
389.Dakota Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
la and the bay,
I don’t get that feeling. I think if the Raiders were winning Al would pay whatever it took to keep those players around and I think the players know that.
He is an easy target. Like one of those old women who keeps sending money to the Bahamas because someone told them they won the Carribean Lottery.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Raider, if agreeing with everything Al does makes you a “koolaid” drinker, how does disagreeing with everything he does make you a “true fan?”
August 1st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:23 pm
MR….u wont show up cuz the whole blog will watch me beat da fk outta ya and ill put the schit on youtube
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We will make sure you go to prison ass clown.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Filling in for Steve Corkran with some practice notes . . .
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This Corkran is getting off to a shaky start.
No twitter, or practice updates until around midnight, than nothing all morning long.
Is McDonalds sponsoring the live chat anymore?
They probably pulled the proverbial plug.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:36 pm
plata, thanks, man just now found that there was a deadline and occured to me one of these teams would have used it in all this craziness to keep someone or another.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Corkran promised us a McClain quote or two on Sunday.
Crickets.
Does anyone actually think he is going to move forward with this bringing a question from the blog to the players talk?
Over-promise and under-deliver already from this guy!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO……..
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO……..
August 1st, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Well was gonna go, then a fine new post by our ol friend JerMac..
August 1st, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Over. Think that’s why Sproles got the fudge otta dodge.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
“and made Rolando McClain look like a cardboard cut-out.”
Not that difficult, RBs did that A LOT last year.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I agree with this.
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Thank goodness someone stepped in to confirm the numbers.
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He’s just trying to show your fragile arsse some support so you don’t disappear for another month. He’s concerned that maybe you were lying about meeting him at the golf course and maybe wasting his time.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Dakota, it just seems to me it’s a lot easier to take the Old Man for more when they’re losing or the future is uncertain as opposed to seeing guys on other teams stepping up and offering to take paycuts to keep other guys on.
I know the Raiders do a lot of money movement to accomidate other contracts for the cap but does anyone really take a cut? Seems like they all cash in. Just don’t know that they would if they were winning. Supply and demand.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
J Hill Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 7:49 pm
FACT = 29 million GUARANTEED over 5 years = 6 million a year.
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Nope I am not changing the subject.
Nobody except some stupid Raider fans think the contract is 6 mil per year based on 5 years according to your calculation. If you want to calculate 5 years then you have to use the entire contract. Guaranteed money means he’s guaranteed regardless of year 1 or year 5. If he’s in year 5, then he is going to get a whole lot more than 29 mil. He’ll have earned 48 mil. My math says 48/5 = 9.6 mil not 5 mil.
Oh and yeah, I forgot you own me on this blog. Gosh I am so afraid of you. First you claim to know what a traditional Asian Male is based on your 2 Asian Acquaintances. Then you want to play a 25 handicap straight up when you claim to be a 17 handicap. Real honorable there buddy. Now you proclaim to be a “Gucci” man.
Gucci = Metrosexual aka trying too hard. It’s a ladies brand. I’ll stick to Dockers and Levi’s.
oh and I found my handicap. I did lied. It was not 18. It was 17.2 per yahooo handicap tracker.
Yahoo! Handicap Rating is 17.2 Enter New Score
Click score to edit/view details. last updated Jul 28, 2009
August 1st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Anyone ready to name those 2 or 3 great players Al said he could get with the money Nnamdi wanted?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Vegas, I think I’m liking McClain’s reluctance to speak to the press while his actions on the field speak loud and clear.. Again Pain McClain to the Pro Bowl due to CODE BLACK 2011.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Lol Farced Up…..snitch
August 1st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I was starting to fear that the rumor was true that Raider fans are very uneducated.
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Wow!
How about this Raider fans?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Current tally of the 3 great players Al could get with Nnamdi’s money still at ZERO.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Hey Math is Math.
You can’t use the maximum number of years with the minimum amount of potential salary (the guaranteed part).
Who do you think your trying to schlep your numbers past??
August 1st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Anyone else catch beecham talking to him self last night. Now that’s an asz clown.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
MR, I think what Al meant was KEEPING 2 or 3 other ‘great’ players.
Seymour
Routt
Huff
Bush*
Wimbley
Miller?
That’s 5 or 6.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Beetlejuice, I’ll check in tomorrow to see if you ever named the 3 great players Al could get with the money Nnamdi wanted. Later.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RealMaddenRaider Says:
August 8th,2009 at 8:25 pm
Why does it matter to you what Ricochet’s favorite team is? Do you not have an argument to put up against his? Is that why you’re trying to shift the argument over to his supposed favorite team? I think so.
Maybe he doesn’t even have a favorite team. I’m pretty much heading there. I’m almost through with the Raiders, and I don’t plan on taking up another team.
A lot of people just watch the NFL, and mock their former team for continuing to self destruct. It’s not their fault your team loses every year.
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Checkmate.
Please ignore this fake azz wannabe NAACP supporting, ethnically and socially confused individual. He is worthless to the Raider Nation.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Man bunch of internet gangstas in here. If you talk smack on a blog bout kicking a$$ you need a life.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Lol MR beetlejuice and tyrone have at least had sex with women……u?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Routt and Huff great players….omfg. I see Beetlejuice isn’t the only one smoking giant boulders tonight. Goodnight.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Vegas, I think I’m liking McClain’s reluctance to speak to the press while his actions on the field speak loud and clear.. Again Pain McClain to the Pro Bowl due to CODE BLACK 2011.
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I’m way behind the ball on this “Code Black” thing.
Sounds like some type of rally I wouldn’t be invited to.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Mr he never said they weren’t on the team already.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
JFB, McClain doesn’t talk to the media.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
J Hill Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
He’s just trying to show your fragile arsse some support so you don’t disappear for another month.
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You’re right. I was so scared from some anonymous blogger on the internet that I ran for a month. Let me fess up here. I found it stupid of me to try and go back and forth with some yoyo over the internet. I did do a good job of ignoring this blog until training camp was back on and I have to get updates on what’s going on in here. Yeah, I couldnt help myself wasting my time on this blog again. Some habits are hard too hard to shake. But you own me though. I’m really scared.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
J, they don’t structure it like that though. It’s probably closer to 8 or 9 year.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Jmcclain ill do it in real life…..ppl from blog who ive argued with have seen me face to face at games
August 1st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
At any rate, we better hope Wimbley earns every cent of that 48, as that will mean he’s playing his @$$ off.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:47 pm
VEGAS RAIDER……..i created Code Black…..of course u invited
August 1st, 2011 at 8:47 pm
I was starting to fear that the rumor was true that Raider fans are very uneducated.
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Wow!
How about this Raider fans?
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EVERY Raiders game I’ve been to, I’ve been impressed with the knowledge of the game and attention to what’s happening on the field by most of the fans surronding me… every one.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
oh, one last thing, jmmclain, there’s only one internet gangsta here tonignt. It’s beetlejuice. He gets all big after hitting that pipe. Now I’m gone for the night. Long day. Don’t want to top it off listening to a crack head talk tough and people talking about Huff and Routt being great players.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
JFB, McClain doesn’t talk to the media.
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It’s the media’s job to get him to talk. If McClain says I will talk on Sunday, you get up in his azz and have some courage in your convictions and close him on a couple of quotes.
Bay Area media needs a pair sometimes!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Aig u ran to probaskettballtalk blog after jhill embarrassed you….was surprised actually u did that
August 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
And plz plz stay away
August 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
I’m sure Wimbley’s deal is backloaded.
6,7 this year, 12 or 13 by the end.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:50 pm
VEGAS RAIDER……..i created Code Black…..of course u invited
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What is it?
Seriously.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:50 pm
MR show up to a game….stop being a coward….Kell backed out twice already and stays runnin
August 1st, 2011 at 8:50 pm
JFB, I want him to ball. I could care less if he is media friendly.
Go Raiders!
August 1st, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Rolando is just not a very nice guy I’m starting to believe.
Over/Under on how many RB’s “Lidz” puts in a ball-cap this season?
2.5
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Over 2.5 most def… He allready has TJ, and who knows if rock will make it out of the ice bath tonite…I wouldnt be surprised if he was responsible for JFORDS injury…Romac is a bully…
August 1st, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Aw MR’s mommy told its BATH TIME….so he ran and grabbed his rubber duckie….so exciting times for the lil phag
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
48.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:47 pm
VEGAS RAIDER……..i created Code Black…..of course u invited
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What is Code Black? All I saw was some one was going to drop a banner in mile high.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
LOL, MR, note the ” ’s ”
Al sees these guys as Great Playahs and True Raidahs. He rewards loyalty, like it or not. He overspends for people who stay in his pocket.
As long as the Raiders lose, he’s in a corner. He gets a steal every now and then but he ends up paying to keep the guy.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I told you guys this David Ausberry is the truth, it may take him all year to develope but this kid is a phenomenal athlete. He just needs to understand the routes he has to run to adjust to the variety of defenses he will face. When you guys see him you’ll feel a little better about the decision. If indeed it is teh decision.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I would say I am at about 90% going to the Pats game, as long as their is no major hick-ups with the closing of the nueva casa en un par de semanas.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Lol RoBeast talked to the B@uce at Kincaid’s
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Jmcclain ill do it in real life…..ppl from blog who ive argued with have seen me face to face at games
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well what did they do. My comment wasnt really towards you more to RAIDER and that charger fan.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:53 pm
B,
I know I ran. Gosh some anonymous internet semi-pro blogger can be so intimidating. BTW, you’d find me on PFT or Thedailybeast under the name aig-raiders or jm95054. I’ve been on the TDB a lot more lately due to that debt thing. You know the thing that us tax paying folks pay attention to. You still freeloading?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:53 pm
It’s the media’s job to get him to talk. If McClain says I will talk on Sunday, you get up in his azz and have some courage in your convictions and close him on a couple of quotes.
Bay Area media needs a pair sometimes!!!
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Dangerous mission fcking wit Mclain…Mofo is nutso…
Need to be careful of the quite ones, the media is right on this one leave him the hell alone before he snaps…
August 1st, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Alright here it goes…………
August 1st, 2011 at 8:54 pm
I prefer The Blackout, but that’s too similar to the problems we have selling tickets.
Code Black v. Code Red from Jack in A Few Good Men
August 1st, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Nobody except some stupid Raider fans think the contract is 6 mil per year based on 5 years according to your calculation.
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Ziva,
You ARE changing the argument, lol. Show me where any of us “stupid Raider fans” said the contract was for “6 million per year”.
Once again, you are a LIAR!
I notice you didn’t address the alternative of keeping him under the franchise tag and what those GUARANTEES would be. I guess my math was correct?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Goodnight everyone. I’m going out clubbing.
Super Bowl Prediction: Chargers 27, Eagles 21
August 1st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
38.jmcclain Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Man bunch of internet gangstas in here. If you talk smack on a blog bout kicking a$$ you need a life.
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jmc.. After years of repetitive idiotic crossposting Raider-hating Niner-loving drivel from a guy sometimes called “RealMaddenRaider” or just “Raider” or who knows how many names, no one has deserved a real world a$$-whupping more than him.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Aig…..u robotic fool….paying income taxes is against the constitution….this has been known….but of course all the roids u take has fked with ur brain and facts just escape u alot
August 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Dangerous mission fcking wit Mclain…Mofo is nutso…
Need to be careful of the quite ones, the media is right on this one leave him the hell alone before he snaps…
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Having Pain McClain put Steve Corkran in a rear-naked choke would be the best thing that ever happened to Steve’s journalistic career.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Night, MR
August 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RAIDER Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Beetlejuice,
where are the 3 great players Al said he could get for Nnamdi’s money?
4real al waters, randle el and trade for osi
August 1st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Yeah, dude I have no idea what I was thinking. Your math is correct.
48 mil contract with 29 mil guaranteed = 29/5 or 6 mil per year.
I’m so sorry I got sucked into another timeless discussion. You da man. lol.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
First you claim to know what a traditional Asian Male is based on your 2 Asian Acquaintances. Then you want to play a 25 handicap straight up when you claim to be a 17 handicap.
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I don’t understand your “first-then” relationship.
What does one have to do with the other?
Must be a miscommunication gap?
August 1st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Farced Up/Beecher going clubbin means having man sex with that CHARGER MAN idiot who is at all the games
August 1st, 2011 at 8:58 pm
For the right price, I’d like to see Henderson back. He can back up both LT and RT, and probably both guard positions as well.
You put him with Satele (or another veteran C/G) and the losers of the Campbell/Carlisle and Barksdale/Barnes battles, and you’ve got a pretty decent OL.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:58 pm
72.
I could swear I know who that dude is for real.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
79 LMFAO, but probably spot on.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Yeah La never to the Bay….say goodnite skype buddy….he gonna show off his man boobs to ya 2nite?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:00 pm
well im about done with miller.dont know why al is getting blamed for a guy who he is trying sign that may leave. doesnt zach have to answer to that? seems like not too many other teams think he was worth a “good offer.” he is wanted here and now its his turn to show some loyalty. im fine with sayin fugg him if we can get boss. al should be on the phone with him right now. that 30% rule is what fugged it all up. never understood that.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:00 pm
74.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Dangerous mission fcking wit Mclain…Mofo is nutso…
Need to be careful of the quite ones, the media is right on this one leave him the hell alone before he snaps…
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Having Pain McClain put Steve Corkran in a rear-naked choke would be the best thing that ever happened to Steve’s journalistic career.
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Truth he would be paid however, rolando would fck him up so bad he would not be able to enjoy his fame or fortune…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:01 pm
48 mil contract with 29 mil guaranteed = 29/5 or 6 mil per year.
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For someone who pretends to be so effin smart, you have to be a genuine dumb arsse.
We are talking about the GUARANTEED money.
G-U-A-R …
Ahhh never mind.
Why do you keep trying to talk about the NON guaranteed portion?
And AGAIN you fail to address the math on the FRANCHISE guarantees if Al goes that way.
What an effin spoon!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Anyhow Code Black…as ive been asked
August 1st, 2011 at 9:02 pm
yes
August 1st, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Zach Miller | TE 2010 Team: Oakland Exp: 4 years
Analysis: Miller is being courted heavily by the Seahawks, a source with knowledge of the situation told NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche on Monday. Former Raiders coach Tom Cable, now the offensive line coach in Seattle, is a factor in recruiting Miller, who made the first Pro Bowl of his four-year career last season.
The Raiders have said they want to re-sign Miller, who caught 60 passes for 685 yards and five touchdowns in 2010, and Wyche reported they’re still in the running.
“Zach was a Raider last year, we want him to be a Raider now,” coach Hue Jackson told The Associated Press. “That thing is going to come to a head here soon.”
This ain’t over yet fellas!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:03 pm
In business when you are in the RED its bad but when youre in the Black you killin it…..and
August 1st, 2011 at 9:03 pm
B,
Grew up in LA, lived in Central Coast for a few years (big Raider following there) and the Bay for about a year. Never claimed to be a native of the Bay, but I’ve been up and down the state many times, like the name would indicate.
I have no interest in MR’s t;ts, I just like to see him respond under his other aliases.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:04 pm
CODE BLACK 2011… Opposing Qb’s on stretchers
August 1st, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Remember A Few Good Men with Tom cruise and Jack Nicholson?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Dangerous mission fcking wit Mclain…Mofo is nutso…
Need to be careful of the quite ones, the media is right on this one leave him the hell alone before he snaps…
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Agreed, real men don’t run their mouths like little pootbutt Brien.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:05 pm
“did you order the code red? did you order the code red?”
August 1st, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Think Pain McClain vs Sproles
August 1st, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Warning to you newbie posters and 1st year wonders on this blog be careful when you go at OG semi-pro bloggers on this board as they will rip you a new A$$ hole…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:06 pm
yeah
August 1st, 2011 at 9:06 pm
In our case NFL lawyers will be hounding coach Hue Jack-Nichol-son……”did u order the Code Black?”….and Hue responds ” U god damn right I did!”
August 1st, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Yer Goddaam right I ordered a CODE BLACK!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:07 pm
CODE BLACK 2011= WE KICKIN MAJOR ASS AND WILL BE WINNING HELLA GAMES
August 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
test
August 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
B@AUCE!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Then you want to play a 25 handicap straight up when you claim to be a 17 handicap. Real honorable there buddy
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
oh and I found my handicap. I did lied. It was not 18. It was 17.2 per yahooo handicap tracker.
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I can’t believe that a smart guy like yourself can’t see how DUM DA DUM DUM you look posting stuff like this in the SAME post.
LMFAO!
You’re a 17 handicap (allegedly) that posed as a 25 handicap, but want to talk about being honorable?
AMAZING!!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
I heard someone call someone a Pootbutt on an episode of the wire last night.
I honestly thought KK made it up, but apparently not.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
So are you going to get paid when the Code Black shirts come out in the Raider image stores?
I like it.. Sign me up!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
So Vegas, I’m thinking the Cheatriots game is one I’m heading down to as well.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Kell is that why u barely post and afraid to meet me one on one?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Scumbag Tom Cable is behind all of this stuff with Seattle. He talked Gallery into leaving and he scavenging our roster in payback for firing him. So my reaction is whoever listens to hell with them. Mr D was writing the checks but these dumb players are loyal to their coaches. It is what it is we move on…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
cant wait for the 1rst preseason game next week.lookin forward to seeing these youngins.which players do any of u have an eye the most during the preseaon?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:10 pm
96.PlunkforHOF Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Think Pain McClain vs Sproles
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Yeah he knocked sproles as to the NFC south…
He is going to hurt some folks this year guarantee it…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:10 pm
His other aliases are lame
August 1st, 2011 at 9:11 pm
I was thinking a CODE BLACK 2011 logo with shields in the “o” and the “0″
August 1st, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Yo Mod, why you block me?
@Hill,
You want to talk about GURANTEED MONEY….then he is guaranteed 29 mil if we cut after this year. Say he has a career ending injury, he is going to make 29 mil guaranteed. Not 29/5 but 29/1. But you da man still.
WTH was I thinking trying to argue with a guy that said the Lakers got stiffed in that Memphis trade for Paul Gasol? Good job bro.
I’ve wasted time again. I’m off this blog for good. Thank you Mod. You’re welcomed to ban me again.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:11 pm
101.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:07 pm
CODE BLACK 2011= WE KICKIN MAJOR ASS AND WILL BE WINNING HELLA GAMES
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Straight talk…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Fairy Mac is a btch, Kell is a btch, MR is a virgin ass coward, Farced Upp/Beecher is another coward….they hate the Raiders and if you give these btches pprops then u got major problem
August 1st, 2011 at 9:12 pm
106.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
So are you going to get paid when the Code Black shirts come out in the Raider image stores?
I like it.. Sign me up!
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B gonna stop givin juice to the Raidahs if Al davis doesn’t pay us?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:13 pm
So you going to be sporting Code Black at the games? I like the banner idea.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:13 pm
CODE BLACK 2011 = Bullies take your lunch money
August 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
You can’t use the maximum number of years with the minimum amount of potential salary (the guaranteed part).
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Says who?
Per year salary is diffent than guaranteed $ or else there would be no reason to distinguish it.
And even if I entertain your BS, the MINIMUM guaranteed amount Wimbley would have made under the franchise scenario is WAY more than this contact will ever pay him.
Feel free to address the part of my post that deals with Wimbley’s, eh hmmm, minimum guarantees under the franchise scenario.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Without question I’m interested in seeng TJ and Moore, Ausberry, DVD, MattS, McClain, DMC, DHB, Branch and both lines.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
TJ, concerning ZMILL, how much influence does the agent have in situations like this?
Not just on cables dumb A$$, I would susspect the greddy agents play a part in this also…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Warning to you newbie posters and 1st year wonders on this blog be careful when you go at OG semi-pro bloggers on this board as they will rip you a new A$$ hole…
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Thec in rare form, layin it down!!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
So Vegas, I’m thinking the Cheatriots game is one I’m heading down to as well.
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Is this Plunketthead transformed?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Oh no question Thec07, the Agents have heavy enfluence same as Condon did with Nanmdi. But Cable is up there in Seattle stirring crap.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
109.priesttj Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Scumbag Tom Cable is behind all of this stuff with Seattle. He talked Gallery into leaving and he scavenging our roster in payback for firing him. So my reaction is whoever listens to hell with them. Mr D was writing the checks but these dumb players are loyal to their coaches. It is what it is we move on…
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like i ve been sayin FUGG ALL PUNKS!!! we in a position to win so let they azz go. seymour has been more of a leader than azzholewa ever was. get guys that want to be here and turn them loose on the league. jerry is stupid. if we get tatupa he will be a 3 down lb and he will get paid for it. why the fugg would we make him a 2 down lb? jerry be on that sh!t.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Nope Plunkethead is Plunk#1, he preceded me here.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Vegas, naw one and only Lifetime Greatest Raider Fan Ever Award Winner abd he still got the same handle. At least I think.
Lotta names ’round here. Freud woulod have a field day.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
would*
August 1st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Yo Mod, why you block me?
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He’s trying to save you from yourself!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Godddam keyboard, can’t spell my own handle.. plus having an extra cocktail… PLUNKETT
August 1st, 2011 at 9:18 pm
TJ, I believe cable could be doing that to drive the numbers up for ZMILL..
cable is a bumbling idiot, he should have never been HC, and never been calling plays…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Cable served a purpose.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Dirty, what up Mayne? You Doing a fantasy league this year???
August 1st, 2011 at 9:19 pm
im assuming deanrius moore, priest? i wanna see francis and sterling moore along withe pelc and eliades.cant forget the oakland boy derick hill.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:19 pm
denarius
August 1st, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Man DVD looks taller than 6′1″ in that video with Woodson talking tecnigue.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Says who?
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Says me!!
Now I get your comparitive analysis on the franchise numbers, and that is good logic. Notice I didn’t debate any of that.
But you can’t use the guaranteed amount and spread it out over 5 years, because he will get more than that if the contract stays in place for 5 years.
It’s like smashing on 10 chicks right before you get married, than 5 years later trying to brag to your buddies that you have bagged 10 chicks over the last 5 years, or like two a year.
Got it?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:20 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
August 1st, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Man the Semi-Pros’s are in rare form tonight…
So of you OG’s should get elevated to Pro status…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Lol insult to call a Raider a fan…..puhleeze……dopest fker ever to bless this blog is SinceFrankYouell or Rader Dell…..VR is too young for that distinction…..another dumb comment from La never to the bay
August 1st, 2011 at 9:22 pm
I could have sworn I seen PlunkforHOF around these parts over the years.
Threw me off calling me Vegas and talking about going to the game, lol.
I though my man Plunk was going to smash out from AZ to the Patriots game!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Yeah Sterling Moore will be of interest but yeah I meant Denarius Moore. He’s already making noise in camp showing they wont be able to sit him long.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:23 pm
I think Al should drive the price up on Seattle then say see ya. I like Miller but why play games with Cable. Run the price up and then if Miller isnt 100% healthy Cable will be on the line for over spending his new bosses cash. Not to mention Miller being stuck on on the last place team in the NFC West.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:23 pm
BHP crazy as all hell….but he in the ruunnin too
August 1st, 2011 at 9:23 pm
I wanna see Barksdale holding it down as a starter…See what his footwork s like…
Honeslty he needs to get on that same ish that Romac is on…
Romac needs to be held out of pratices before he hurts more of our players…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:24 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I was so scared from some anonymous blogger on the internet that I ran for a month
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Whatever you wanna call it, you went missing in action after YOU tounge twisted yourself into being a complete blabbering LYING fraud.
I know YOU think you were the “winner” that day, but the consensus amongst the semi pros was that I ran you off, lol.
You know what they say about perception, lol.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Brien, #1 9er fan when Raiders were in LA.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:25 pm
…..VR is too young for that distinction…
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Don’t want or deserve the distinction, but I do enjoy occasionally lobbing a few at some of the top dogs around here (including you, Thec , Priest to name a few).
You can’t be at the top and not think your going to get challenged from the 2’s and 3’s.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Going out on a drunken limb.. 2nd most improved player this year behind Pain McClain is…
Chaz Schillens!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Didn’t you at one time admit your age on here, B and say you were a Raider fan since a youngster, when they were in LA?
So either you’re a hypocrite or a closet LA Raider fan.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:27 pm
but I do enjoy occasionally lobbing a few at some of the top dogs around here
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One helluva ball-coach once deemed that “Iron sharpening Iron”.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:28 pm
hehehehe. SD Dischargers Trophy Case. What a concept. Maybe they should just share one with the Cincinnatti Bungholes.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:28 pm
150.PlunkforHOF Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Going out on a drunken limb.. 2nd most improved player this year behind Pain McClain is…
Chaz Schillens!!!
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Tough call Bruh…I will say this McClain is on some other sht this year, not sure what but he is going to get hella fines and highlight reel hits…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Now I get your comparitive analysis on the franchise numbers, and that is good logic. Notice I didn’t debate any of that.
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Yeah, and I noticed your boy didn’t debate it either, lol.
So you agree with my logic and probably understand the CONTEXT of this conversation is in terms of the salary cap. I know I don’t have to explain that to you since the whole reason EVERYONE was talking about Wimbley’s contract was because of the cap relief (BS, by the way) that we needed.
I know we don’t have any miscommunication gaps mayne.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Nothing better than some actual football talk, some ghetto mix of a $10 merlot and a pineapple smirnoff ice (suprisingly refreshing) and youtubing some live Amy Winehouse performances.
Throw in the wife on a major firing kick at the casig, and your boy is all smiles.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Romac needs to be held out of pratices before he hurts more of our players…
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CODE BLACK 2011!!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Quite mofo is on a mission to hurt people…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:30 pm
(BS, by the way)
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LOL
August 1st, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Only 3 type of ppl on this blog….Semi pros,elder statesmen and soldiers…..we know where im at
August 1st, 2011 at 9:31 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
48.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 8:47 pm
VEGAS RAIDER……..i created Code Black…..of course u invited
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What is Code Black? All I saw was some one was going to drop a banner in mile high.
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I am the man who will hang the CODE BLACK 2011 banner in Pile High stadium! I accept this mission with honor and pride! The banner might not be the only thing that gets dropped in Dunger that night!
It shall be done
Hey B A U C E, they got the Purple Berry in Dungver?
CODE BLACK 2011
August 1st, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Pain McClain will be the best MLB in the division this season, and really it won’t be close.
And he just turned 22!!!!
One of the most talented Raiders I have ever seen, IMO.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Good times, Vegas
August 1st, 2011 at 9:32 pm
LOL,
Some Henny and a Garcia got me in about the same place, VR.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:33 pm
160.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Only 3 type of ppl on this blog….Semi pros,elder statesmen and soldiers…..we know where im at
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Thats what the blog needs is the ability to identify who is who, so the newbies that come on the scene dont get their A$$es lit up by one of the above…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:33 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon = BIG FRIGGIN BALLZ TRUE RAIDER!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Ahhhhh…. Mr. Garcia, how I miss you.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:34 pm
162.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Pain McClain will be the best MLB in the division this season, and really it won’t be close.
And he just turned 22!!!!
One of the most talented Raiders I have ever seen, IMO.
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You called this last season. You even called me out for the dumb nicname I gave him…This Mofo is a bad man… RB’s in the league better take heed…
August 1st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
LA never to the Bay…… i never once wore a LA RAIDER SHIRT OR HAT.my dad born 1960 from oakland….my grandpa at first raider game ever….i grew up seeing old oakland games on tape with memorabilia all around. I wore Oakland Raider schit never LA…U ARE NEVER ON MY LEVEL. No one uppp here called them LA raiders we said Oakland all day! So kiss my Oakland ass u btch
August 1st, 2011 at 9:36 pm
U bow to me boy! My bloodline started with the Raiders….can u say the same?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:36 pm
AHHHHH, don’t this feel good?
GOOOOOO RRRRRRAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEEEERRRRSSSSS!!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
You can’t be at the top and not think your going to get challenged from the 2’s and 3’s.
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Or get heckled by babbling idiots in the stands.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Your father ever ran it all down to you about this Raider schit since its inception?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Can your Uncles tell u about the first game played at the Oakland Coliseum when SD kicked our ass as Lance Alworth torched us? Ever see the souvenir from that day? I HAVE!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:39 pm
How dare u ever insinuate Im a hypocrite u b@stard?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:40 pm
In the division?? I say Mcclain will be in the top 5 MLB’s in the game by this time next year. That’s how I view the kid he has the size and speed and instincts to be one of the all-time greats.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:40 pm
U only like the Raiders cuz it makes u feel cool….ur a sideline ass broad
August 1st, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Easy, B
August 1st, 2011 at 9:41 pm
B, your Oakland @$$ wasn’t on that real Cali sh;t, hangin in the Valley, bch.
So you mean to tell me you were rocking Oakland Raider gear when the team was in LA? And supported them?
Hmmm… sounds like BS to me. I remember most Bay Area MFs disowned Al when he bounced.
Matter fact, my pops did introduce me to the Raiders, quite literally. Bo always my favorite.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:41 pm
B,
Uhhh ….
I would say you come from a long line of Oakland Raider fans.
You are either an owner, a player, an employee, or a fan of the Raiders.
Fan = fanatical supporter of a team.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
My pops is from NYC, Mayne. Came to LA in the early 80s. My first school picture in a Raiders jacket.
You can argue all you want, B. Most of us cut from a similar cloth.
You are not any kind of internet god. And anyway, why would you aspire to be such?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Thec ima a cold killa…trained by Raider mercs…this btch LAtotheGay is a peon
August 1st, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Nothing better than some actual football talk,
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BS!
You wanna talk per year numbers.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:44 pm
In the division??
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I wasn’t trying to sell him short, just thought best in the divison was an obivous distinction.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
From the Bay(never was from the Bay..but I go there all the time) to L.A. (born and raised) and Las Vegas (where I live now)….we are all Raider Nation…we bleed Silver and Black….can’t we all just get along??
CODE BLACK 2011!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
You wanna talk per year numbers.
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I think my 3 comments on the matter get trumped by your 20+, lol.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Can your Uncles tell u about the first game played at the Oakland Coliseum when SD kicked our ass as Lance Alworth torched us? Ever see the souvenir from that day? I HAVE!
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I was there pootbutt.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Haaaa dad from ny lol….sorry buddy u already lost
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
RAIDERS!!! Right or wrong… winning or losing.. LA or Oaktown.. Al Davis or whoever comes after.. UNTIL THE DAY I FUKKING DIE… Silver and Black Forever!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Kell duh u were there…u rhink we dont know?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:47 pm
182.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Thec ima a cold killa…trained by Raider mercs…this btch LAtotheGay is a peon
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Lol, I’m from mercs who happen to be Raider fans. Keep trying, B.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:47 pm
BTW…love the conversation tonight..guys!
Keeping it very entertaining…I love this time of year!!
(Andy Williams voice) It’s the most…wonderful time…of the year!!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:47 pm
LatotheGay…..all the great games my ppl who taught me this Raider schit was there….every last one of them games from 60-p81…now 95-current…….sit down lil kid
August 1st, 2011 at 9:48 pm
188.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Haaaa dad from ny lol….sorry buddy u already lost
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What? In the competition for most obnoxious internet clown, you’re in the winners circle all by yourself.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:49 pm
187.KoolKell Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Can your Uncles tell u about the first game played at the Oakland Coliseum when SD kicked our ass as Lance Alworth torched us? Ever see the souvenir from that day? I HAVE!
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I was there pootbutt.
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Good for you… now.. STFU
August 1st, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Keep trying…dummy i dont have to u gettin slaped with a Hacksaw Jin Duggan two by fouur…..haha mercs? u were raised by neggas who ran the copy mchine
August 1st, 2011 at 9:49 pm
How old are you, Internet Mercenary? Can’t wait to hear. Please be older than 30, it’ll make this that much more rich.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:50 pm
RAIDERS ARE OAKLAND’S TEAM…..U GET IT? ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL BE…….this is the home base where is started and nothing can ever top it
August 1st, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Mthfka u picked a team I HAD NO CHOICE….just like my skin color i was born into it….u werent
August 1st, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Where were you for the 13 years they were away, B?
I stuck around when Al went back to the Town cause I understood. Disappointed but was still a fan of the Raiders.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:52 pm
who cares….There are Raiders fans all over the map. The Raiders could move to Alaska and I would still be a fan. I moved them to Mexico in madden franchise one year.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Who was your choice starting in 82?
Do you know anything about the Raiders/LA in the 80s/90s? Part of the culture, B. I didn’t pick sh;t.
There are times when I wish I wasn’t a fan. If you haven’t had that feeling at some point in the last 15 years, you’re delusional.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:53 pm
What da fk does older than 30 mean u dummy? See u have no point…this is why alot of us dont like alot of LA cats like you….jhill ray 909 and others soliid but u arent….just sum dumb skinny jean wearing mohawk having phaggot
August 1st, 2011 at 9:54 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:52 pm
who cares….There are Raiders fans all over the map. The Raiders could move to Alaska and I would still be a fan. I moved them to Mexico in madden franchise one year.
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Try Vegas…on NFL2k!
August 1st, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Shark got it right.
Raider fans who never been within 1000 miles of Cali. I don’t care.
If/when a team moves to LA, LA can have ‘em. I’m a Raider.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:54 pm
B@uce,
August 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm
I think my 3 comments on the matter get trumped by your 20+, lol.
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We came to and understanding a bit quicker.
We don’t have as many miscommunication gaps.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Alright.. we’re fighting ourselves.. I love any Raider fan, as I love my Oakland Raiders.. ‘night fellas, try to get along….lol
August 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm
My choice was OAKLAND Raiders….no one upp here referred to them as such…we always said they are our guys…..hey and what happpened? Exactly they ended the 16 gm road trip a year
August 1st, 2011 at 9:57 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:53 pm
What da fk does older than 30 mean u dummy? See u have no point…this is why alot of us dont like alot of LA cats like you….jhill ray 909 and others soliid but u arent….just sum dumb skinny jean wearing mohawk having
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Someone woke up on the wrong side of the floor this morning.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:57 pm
LOL
Like I said, B. You hung out in the Valley way too much. we don’t do skinny jeans and all that BS down here, mayne.
White T, Jeans and chucks standard issue.
But I’ve had the pleasure of being able to travel and see some sh;t around the world, throw on some flossy sh;t and pop bottles of something inpronouncable in a foreign country.
Get some perspective, cuz.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:58 pm
You know nada…ur just a fraud who is really a Rams fan
August 1st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
My pops took me to games at the l.a coliseum thats where my love for the raiders began. HOW CAN YOU HATE ON THAT?
August 1st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Winehouse circa 2007 was suprisingly hot and probably a killer lay.
By 2008……not so much, lol.
August 1st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
BS about the valley….hella cats wearing that punk schit at the Fox Hills mall…Carson Mall…Lakewood and all ur malls…ur a damn liar
August 1st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Man, this is one mighty fast fking blog tonight, B whippin ass all over mr charged. Thats fking awesome. I’d have that little runt slurppin his p’ss off the floor if I woulda been here. Come on back outta the closet sweetheart, I’m here now.
Fk all the detractors and complainers baby, Hue Jackson got hisself a ball club.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Haha chucks with ur mohawk doing the krump phag dance
August 1st, 2011 at 10:01 pm
The three great players signed instead of Namndi was suppose to be…….Seymore, Wimbley and Seymore.
I wouldnt be suprised in AD was counting Routt.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:01 pm
You’d fight me even if I agreed with you. Remind of my dog that just went up to Wasco. Complete narcissist. But I love that MF.
Quit trippin’. Next time I’m up there, I’ll blaze some of that good with you (and of course you’d say its weak and your N Cal sh;t is better and blah blah – but would probably be right about that one).
August 1st, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Yawwwwnnnnnnnnn Shark
August 1st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 9:58 pm
You know nada…ur just a fraud who is really a Rams fan
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Dang…Boss..
That was a LOW BLOW….LoL!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
The three great players signed instead of Namndi was suppose to be………Seymore, Wimbley and Miller.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Zach getting wined and dined by Seattle front office, per Clayton.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:03 pm
So if your girl cheated on you, and you got back on her by bagging Amy Winehouse, would it be the Ska-Skank Redemption?
Thank you, thank you, your far too kind.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Blaze wouldnt be a problem if uu didnt call me a hypocrite….we always believed they were coming back and no kid up here rocked LA STUFF so back off patna
August 1st, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Vegas, maybe after long night on the strip a few yards of margaritas a couple cases of beer…and maybe..just maybe she might be do-able!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:05 pm
“Pretty tough would be an understatement,” Asomugha said. “It was pretty tough because I never thought about that. I never seriously thought about that possibility, leaving the team, leaving the organization, leaving the state.”
August 1st, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Too old for mohawks, B.
I can only speak for me and mine coming up. There’s a lot of that g@y Kanye metro sh;t all over, but you paint with too broad a brush, mayne.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:05 pm
I was conceived in the coliseum parking lot….
August 1st, 2011 at 10:06 pm
la and the bay Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Zach getting wined and dined by Seattle front office, per Clayton.
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He’s all but outta here.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:07 pm
And even worse you gave kudos to Kell and MR….two coward ass fools…MR has an excuse cuz he hasnt fked a woman yet…but kell is the worse by far. Tells it like it is? A blk man married to a white woman always talkin about white ppl are so racist…he is the sorriest mtfka ever and he a coward
August 1st, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Namndi Farewell
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_18596737
A good read
August 1st, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Vegas, maybe after long night on the strip a few yards of margaritas a couple cases of beer…
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Don’t lie, after all that, she was 2009 do-able, lol!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Hey ill paint even broader when a mthfka says im a hypocrite and u defended two clowns that ruin this blog which is even worse than dissin me
August 1st, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Anyhow bruh u do what u do….im going to all games….drunk and lit ready to nab a btch before and after Raider wins
August 1st, 2011 at 10:10 pm
I’ll put out the olive branch. Take a puff and pass or spit on in, I don’t give a damn.
You underestiate/forgot/never knew about the SC to N Cal connection.
I knew and know mad MFs from Oaktown, E. Bay, San Jose, all that.
Haven’t had to worry bout colors or which block to be careful on in a minute though.
Last time I threw down, I beat up Bo Scehm on a Venice blacktop for his Jordans (hahah, love you, Bo).
August 1st, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Now we can have our lil argument as usual and move on or continue….dont matter to me…..but im off to bed….early morning shift……CODE BLACK 2011
August 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Beat up Bo? Did his Hall and Oates mop top get in the way when u were swingin?
August 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Brien, Black Hole Priest, OakGlenn, and Kool Kell are a few of the founding members of this blog post! They are as OG Raider as it gets.
Honorable inclusions to 4EvaRaider, RaiderO, JFB, J Hill, Plunk, LAttB,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thec, Henry Lawrence, and Raider Rockstar
I missed a few names, not a dis, just didn’t come to mind.
CODE BLACK 2011
August 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
I haven’t decided what game (preseason, regular season and/or playoffs) I’m going to attend..maybe home opener!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Nah, my point was that MR and Kell bring up valid points. I got mixed kids, so I don’t see a problem with that. Think they’ll see even less of a problem with it than we did growing up. Least I hope so.
MR has issues that extend far beyond this blog, but I can’t say I disagree with him on everything. Actually, agree on several social issues, but you being right wing if I remember correct, don’t expect you to understand.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Haha i dont know the connection? Lol thats a lie know many LA cats and been thru out it
August 1st, 2011 at 10:16 pm
238.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Beat up Bo? Did his Hall and Oates mop top get in the way when u were swingin?
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LMAO!
AquaNet or some sh;t all over my damn knuckles.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:16 pm
If u dont give a damn I dont give a fk
August 1st, 2011 at 10:17 pm
MR is at least intelligent.
KoolKell was once intelligent, but that ship has sailed.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:17 pm
LOL, I think we’ve been here before, B.
Peace Treaty Renegotiated. Be good.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Kill them all and let the paramedics sort them out!!!!!!!! Code Black Son
August 1st, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Aint nada against mixed kids….i like Kell’s mixed daughters alot……point is dont holler how much white pppl hate u and u hate them but u live in white neighborhoods and married to a white woman….and then in same breath talk down on blacks who are poorer
August 1st, 2011 at 10:18 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Going to rest for a couple of hours. We’ll see how Zach Miller enjoyed the dinner and if the Raiders can buy him off for dessert.
6 minutes ago
August 1st, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Raccoon
Brien is a little pootbutt, didn’t become a Raider fan until the 90’s.
He’s trying to convince everyone he was around, all he knows is what he heard. Just a little pootbutt wannabe.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:19 pm
B, it takes a a tough dude to contend with these sistas, mayne. For real ones, anyhow.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:21 pm
LAtoBay….would it be any different? I aint gonna change…i hate all 49ers….know Fairy Mac is a btch….MR is a coward….Farced up/Beecher wont show up and i ruin Kell’s life mission
August 1st, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Kell u have no proof of that….u just a speculative btch negga….just like early 2010 when u said ur sources said I was in jail?
August 1st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Handle it.
One thing I know, when I come in here, you got MFs in check, even if I think you wound tight sometimes. Need to keep MFs like that around though.
I woulda had my @$$ kicked more without some wound tight MFs around.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:25 pm
In the 80s cartoons would come on TNT ON SUNDAYS…..pops would make me watch the Raiders….Kell I remember when Vella opened up his first store and been going since 87. U just a mad old Henry Louis gates house negga beggin for a biscuit
August 1st, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Been told Alameda County clink is no joke. I said try Twin Towers. You grow up about 5 years in a week.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:25 pm
LAtoBay thats anyone….
August 1st, 2011 at 10:27 pm
LatoBay….I been to Twin Teez…..lets just say not a great experience….never again
August 1st, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Any sort of jail no matter where is all bad
August 1st, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: Randy Moss PFT Farewell
bigjeter says:
Aug 2, 2011 1:11 AM
Phony. Quitter. Loafer. No guts. Couldn’t carry Jerry Rice’s luggage. Took money that he didn’t earn.
Please don’t hire this clown for TV. I won’t watch. Go give 40% effort racing pickups. Goon.
310
August 1st, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Snot bubbles and crap stained football pants for our rivals. Code Black Son
August 1st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Mod’s, why can’t I respond to BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence?
The person you just banned?
August 1st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Ahahahaha moss on TV? Thats just like Kell hanging around blk ppl
August 1st, 2011 at 10:30 pm
LA….it takes a tough guy to deal with American women period
August 1st, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Kell such a btch lol…..this is so bad…..u coming to a game this year or what old man?
August 1st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
B,
Been in a few and Ventura and Santa Barbara like detention.
You been to the Twins then the rest is downhill. Being denied rights or freedom is f$%^^&*(d up anywhere, true, but that sh;t was like you said…. neeeever again, LOL.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Kell we can either talk as men or slug it out….makes no difference to me….but u need to account for the stuff u say
August 1st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Oline opening defenses like Moses parting the red sea. Code Black Son
August 1st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Raiiiideerrrssss, I lived in sc, got patnas that love the Raiders, ppl just care more about USC. Brother in law came down from Altadena dnt want to gi home. Ima take em to a game or two. Real fans go to the games period…
August 1st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Yeah I did Twin and Long Beach….aint been back since…and not like I was in there hella long. I knew I didnt belong there.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:35 pm
707 u are correct….as usual
August 1st, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I know B. We does it Big, no fakes on his front. Catch us in A lot or D lot. It’s all good. Food drnk Beezys, tree, real Raider love. Some of these cats is imposters
August 1st, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Below the radar where I’m gonna stay. No need for BS anymore anyway.
Getting caught up as a matter of survival is one thing, but having regular conversation with the one time and you got a 9 TO 5er, some kids and all that? F&^() that.
Me, the familia, Cholula, Henny and Garcia all a MF need these days.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Me and LA always at it….its just us saying hey whats up…long time no talk…aint no biggie thats juust how we are
August 1st, 2011 at 10:36 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Kell we can either talk as men or slug it out….makes no difference to me….but u need to account for the stuff u say
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You’re no man, and I’ll talk to you as I see fit.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:37 pm
U got shorties…then u may as well square up…id suggest that for anyone
August 1st, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Twin so over populated u doin 30 percent of your time.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Yeah Kell u havent fit into ur wife in years ole buddy
August 1st, 2011 at 10:38 pm
707raiders Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Raiiiideerrrssss, I lived in sc, got patnas that love the Raiders, ppl just care more about USC
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Sad, but true. Couldn’t even get the coliseum a quarter full near the end. But MFs show up in f*&*)n regiments to see
August 1st, 2011 at 10:39 pm
the Trojans.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Miller deal needs to get done, my feeling is tomorrow
August 1st, 2011 at 10:39 pm
707…hell yeah lol….twin especially round holidays…..jail is a trap….and id prolly go there if Kell was ever to gain courage
August 1st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
The judge sentenced me to do about a century
I’m mobbin’ through the county mainline
back in 9500 just tryin’ to handle mine
Spittin’ game at the homies about the good ol’ days
As we try to pass time waiting for the chain to Chino!!
Yaeeyaae!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Trojans need to can kiffin…real talk….that guy about to just destroy SC….my pops coached youth football for years in Carson and many players from that program playing D1 now or HS stars. Word is out that Kiffin is a no no
August 1st, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Yeah, we were getting a kick at 50% when I was there. Been like 10 years. That was before the black-brown sh;t REALLY heated up, but still loc.
Gotta split the pie with the eses, mayne. Wouldn’t be LA without my Doyers crew, haha.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Mclain looking like a beast, DMC running plays like Marshall, look out we on the move
August 1st, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Dont worry guys, Miller is going to seattle to try and raise his value to mr. davis, and hes hoping to cash in in the process.. hes comming back no doubt..
August 1st, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Ray must have ordered a CODE BLACK
August 1st, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Miller, you leave and I hope we flatten you
August 1st, 2011 at 10:44 pm
DMC no fluke. He’s gonna pay off for Al. McPain got the attitude. Need to have the game follow.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:44 pm
707…man i like what im reading bout RoBeast and Dmac….if he turns into 99-01 Marshall Faulk we can be contenders to take it all
August 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Id prefer Miller to stay but if u dont wanna be here then bounce man
August 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
and kell, man all i have read on this blog for the past couple of years is you trying to pick fights with us real raider fans.. im starting to believe your a trolling 49er fan that has nothing better to do.. leave us real raider fans alone!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
What ever happened to El Dirty?
August 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Anybody who hasn’t needs to listen to the Raiders.com post practice presser with Hue jackson as he talks about Denarius Moore. You’ll get we saw in him on film. In fact I’m watching him vs Florida score a TD he’s is extraordinary.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
287, that’s my thinking. Miller trying to get his.
Tough to see what the bluff is though, if it is.
Al overpays for loyalty, we know that. He also let Hue interview in SF last year right (early this year?)?
So what is that? He saying to Zach “The grass ain’t as green as you think, but go take a look, have dinner and come back and see me. Herrera’s on the way with the cheeseburgers.”
August 1st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
LA….i never understood the black vs brown beef….dont get it at all….like how did that schit start?
August 1st, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Did yall know 707raiders can seak fluent Spanish? It was crazy seeing him talk with latinos tit for tat. I need to step up my espanol
August 1st, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Moore is a classic Davis deep threat. I see him being 2011’s Jacoby Ford.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:49 pm
296, deffinitly man..
al isnt gonna let him walk, not that easy..
August 1st, 2011 at 10:49 pm
No doubt…
Campbell like Warner
DMC like Faulk
Ford like Bruce
and
Murphy like Holt
“Yeeaahhh Buuddeeeee!”
August 1st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
I love Hue Jackson! this guy is on lazer focus mode.
Love this guy!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Anyhow goodnite all Raider brothers across the globe….LA no hard feelings bruh we just gonna always talk schit like competing cousins….u still cool
August 1st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Al Saunders will have some tricks up his sleeve far sho, I agree if miller wants to be gone then peace him out and let’s get a wide out with 60 plus receptions. I love the fact Hue got these boys hitten right from the start. None if that walk through BS from cables camp.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
you guys should watch moore’s combine videos.. he caught more passes at the combine than dhb has in 2 years..
August 1st, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Denarius Moore > DHB
August 1st, 2011 at 10:51 pm
707….peace bruh…uu too BHP AND j raider
August 1st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Oh yeah and LA hero Ray……..and mthfk u Kell
August 1st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
We need Zach Miller. I am serious. Seattle and Tarvaris Jackson? Are you kidding me? Come on, Al. Pay YOUR tight end!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
later man..
August 1st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
B@uce,Ray and entire planet>DHB….time to retire
August 1st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Thank God, Randy Moss never won a Superbowl.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Code Black
August 1st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
GN B@uce…see u in the a.m.!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
309, seriously man dont sweat it..
miller isnt goin to the squeelhawks
August 1st, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Peace out
August 1st, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Talk to you all…manana!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:55 pm
B, you need to know espanol just to order lunch down here, lol!
I don’t know with the whole black v. brown. Young dudes trying to get a rep. Came to a point where you stopped seeing black on black so much cause it was someone else to scrap.
Don’t know the history so much as just seeing the results.
I’m mixed myself, so I been called a cracka, n;99a and ese all about an equal number of times.
My block was pretty cool about it though. We had a grip of different races. My best friends are Indian, like the dot, not the feather. Philipinos, etc.
That’s what I like about Oakland. Seemed to be all mixed up and then pockets here and there of whoever.
August 1st, 2011 at 10:55 pm
goodnight al davis… goodnight raider nation..
August 1st, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Great expectations this season my friends. GO RAIDERS!!!
August 1st, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Did you order the code black?
August 1st, 2011 at 11:00 pm
The fact that no deal announced yet is a good thing, I hope.
Bout to try some of this Decourtet, see if its any good.
Later Nation,
Be good.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Night folks
August 1st, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Oh, and you’re GODD@M right I did!!!
Couldn’t leave ya hangin.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:05 pm
I’m telling you guys DMoore is going to send one of these guys packing. Someone is going to get a pink slip because this kid wont sit long just like Ford is has the softest most gifted hands of any WR we’ve drafted since Tim Brown I told you guys when I first saw him he reminded of Tim Brown when you see him you’ll see why. He runs like him, he looks like and he is a more gifted WR than Tim was at this point in their career. Tim Brown was a better overall player but this kid DMoore is something special. How he lasted until the 5th rnd is criminal.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Ford V12 is in the body shop for minor repairs. Get well.
Glad to hear Chaz and Murph are looking good.
I’d like to have some realistic optimism for DHB but
I don’t even hear Hue Jack City hyping him up.
Come back Zack!
August 1st, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Adios Fellas!!
August 1st, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Raider J he’s hurt man he’s not practicing….
August 1st, 2011 at 11:14 pm
325. What have you heard about/seen Moore doing in practice besides punt returns? His highlights are impressive. His college QBs probably hurt his draft stock more than anything
August 1st, 2011 at 11:14 pm
To get Ford and Moore and Murphy and Schilens after the 3rd rnd more than makes up for the DHB gaff. No one should be complaining about that at this point we have arec’g corp biult on mid to low rnd picks one 1st rnd mistake is almost an afterthought IMO!
August 1st, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Like I said listen to the postpractice presser with the HC on the Raider wedsite he’s has given DMoore props at least Twice so far and David Ausberry.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Even without regard to injury, Hue Jack’s tone about DHB seems to be more about him being one of the guys that has to improve than excitement about his ability. He spoke about Ford having a breakout year and being a house hold name. I havent heard him say much about Murph though either.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:20 pm
You could have worse QB’s than that kid had in school that stuff was butt ugly. They would rotate 3 QB’s trying to get average play from one of them. Plus the first time he played WR was as a freshmen. He’s only had 5 years of it. While someone like DMoore probably is on his 7th year as a rookie. It makes a huge difference.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:20 pm
330 true indeed! As long as the playing time is based on performance and not potential or cost, Im happy.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Murphy drops more passes than anyone truth be told.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:25 pm
I like the youth movement. I’ve been saying Derrick Mason would be a good addition to teach the WRs a lil’ something for a couple of yrs. “icing”
August 1st, 2011 at 11:28 pm
I dont think this is the year for a big money player anyway. one playoff appearance will bring quality FA 2012 to the door
August 1st, 2011 at 11:35 pm
I’m starting th=o think they like wht they see in camp at the WR position you don’t even hear about rec’s visiting but that doesn’t mean a stud wont fall out of the sky and you can’t pass on him. But not even a whisper.
August 1st, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Looks like we have 2-4 good #3 WR, and maybe 2 hood #2 WR, we still have no legit #1 WR. Losing our best pass catcher is gonna be rough.
Code Black 2011
August 1st, 2011 at 11:47 pm
I’d like to see someone step up and get 1000 rec yds.
If Moore, T. Jones, or DVD can return kicks and punts,
Ford V12 may be that dude
August 1st, 2011 at 11:53 pm
“I think Jason is going to play some tremendous football. I think he’s prepared. I think he’s ready.I expect for him to take that next jump.” – Hue Jack City
” I was really impressed (by offseason workout)… I think he’s going to do a great job leading us in the right direction.” – Ford V12
August 1st, 2011 at 11:59 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_18596737
Where are the fools that said Nnamdi was a traitor and didn’t want to be here?
August 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 am
Priest,I saw where earlier you called Cable a scumbag for getting Miller to talk to Seattle.Isn’t that what he is supposed to do since he works for them?He knows Zack is better than anyone on that team and he is doing his job trying to recruit him.I’m not happy about the prospect of losing Miller,but it seems the Raiders will be the one to blame if he leaves.It sounds like they are the ones dragging their feet.
August 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 am
Left I think it’s more vindictive than anything, I know he wnats to get good players but he’s raiding the Raiders roster specifically.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:05 am
Priest,we weren’t resigning Gallery,so I can’t agree.It would be different if Seattle was going after other players we wanted,but Miller is the only one.Cable just believes like I do that Miller is a damn good player and could improve the team that employs him.Nothing wrong with that.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 am
Priest,sure wish we would get more information on DHB.Its beginning to look like all the hope we had for him was a waste of time.I haven’t given up hope,but that point is getting closer.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 am
If Murph remains inconsistent could the future WR corp be…
Ford, Schilens, Moore?
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 am
Well Lefty12 I worry about him until he practices and plays in a game it’s way too early IMO to even feel one way or the other. I think part of it is the frustration that there is no news about him. I’m not worried until he’s on the field and practicing and it’s either negative or positive. Now thye could be holding him out for trade but I doubt it. Wait until he is practicing then judge.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 am
There is no doubt in my mind that if Murphy doesn’t stop the drops the will be consequencs, it’s inexcuseable.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 am
A rec’r who’s unreliable the QB will ignore and even ask the coach to take him off the field in crunch time. Murphy has to stop the concentration lapses.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:53 am
If McFadden is “gliding by McClain” it’s because McFadden is a real player.
McClain played great for a rookie last year and he’s going to be even better this year.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 am
It’s good that Wimbly’s contract is restructured but he’s being overpaid and so is Routt.
Meanwhile Bush is underpaid and we can’t afford Gallary who just wanted $6 million but would have settled for less.
We need Bush, Miller and without a doubt an effin general manager.
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 am
*a
August 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 am
But the feeling persists that if the Raiders had given Miller a good offer before the lockout, as they did Routt and Seymour, this wouldn’t be an issue.
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It is looking as Al made him wait and then lowballed him.
It’s also true that teams don’t go looking to pay big money to tight ends.
Seattle sucks Zach, come back and play where you belong.
Campbell’s going to need you with that offensive line.
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:39 am
priesttj Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 am
There is no doubt in my mind that if Murphy doesn’t stop the drops the will be consequencs, it’s inexcuseable.
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Dissin on man man Murphy. thats cool. But they all gotta catch. DHB gotta catch the most cause he makes the most. just sayin…
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:48 am
Anyone setting up a fantasy football league like last year??
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:52 am
In reality, Miller and Gardowski are both just average (if that) players.
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Jhill,
Zach Miller is just average (if that) ???
DANG!
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:55 am
Wimbley signed a five-year, $48 million deal, with $29 million guarantee.
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JFB called Kam a “one-trick pony” a few weeks ago
called him a liability against the run AND pass I believe, but a darn good pass rusher
Wimbley better have 10+ sacks for the next 3 years or this is another Tommy Kelly type contract imo
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I like that…DMac gliding by RoMac as if he was a cardboard cutout…I don’t know about The Greatest Show On Turf Part 2 as of yet!
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:57 am
Wimbley, 27, is entering his sixth NFL season and second with the Raiders. He led the Raiders in sacks last season and is counting upon even bigger things this season.
“There’s so many areas I feel like I can get better in,” Wimbley said. ”I’m working on that every day. I’m just taking it one day at a time and going in and watching film and making corrections and coming out here and working on that and perfect the craft daily.”
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I like this dude.
Just hope he lives up to that big money deal!
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 am
RRS
I sent u an invite to join the FFL, did you receive the email.
Will you join?
Let me know.
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 am
Raiders live chat here on Tuesday at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, August 1st, 2011 at 5:36 pm
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nice to see the moderator was retained after Jerry’s demotion. We couldn’t live without him. It would be weird
Like the Raiders w/o Sam Williams or something
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
Marley,
I’m looking for you also, get back to me.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:01 am
I sent u an invite to join the FFL, did you receive the email.
Will you join?
Let me know.
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Dell,
I would love to, but my e-mail address has changed. That old one got the JaMarcus treatment. I’ll create a new one tonight and give it to you tomorrow. Is that cool?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:02 am
David Ausberry, a converted wide receiver out of USC, has flashed some playmaking ability
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Zach who?
LOL – just kidding
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 am
RRS
I’m holding a spot for you. Get back to me ASAP.
Thanks
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:06 am
Scout.com reported Mario Henderson may be back in the picture. He is said to be in Napa, although he hasn’t been spotted by any media to my knowledge
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the Raiders are back !!!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:07 am
Dell is the man!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:08 am
I’m holding a spot for you. Get back to me ASAP
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Dell,
Rodgers & Mendenhall, baby!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:08 am
OG Justin Smiley is coming for a visit according to Jerry.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:10 am
CODE BLACK 2011 IN 9 DAYS………BEWARE!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:11 am
YA thats wonderful news!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 am
Bootlicker
You’re up early, ass-kissin.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 am
B
Off to workout text me later.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 am
Wimbley’s contract is ridiculous. He was a solid player last year — no better. He had 3 sacks in the finale against KC and 6 in the previous 15 games. He disappeared for entire games in the middle of the season, especially against good teams. I mean, who thinks that Wimbley is a top-10 linebacker? Or even top 20?
He’s someone we needed back, but not with an All-Pro contract. To give him $29 million guaranteed is a joke. Big Al should have given that money to Nnamdi, who is actually a great player.
It’s like Al has gone from one extreme — giving blank checks to free agents from other teams — to the opposite extreme of overpaying his own guys.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 am
Wait Justin Smiley that was with 49ers before? .no thanks
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:16 am
Raiders are going to be good this year. Why? We have the best coach since Gruden and we had a good draft. Let’s get Miller signed and get on with it!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:16 am
Cool Dell
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:17 am
OG and WR should be the focus after the TE situation is settled.
I’m alright with Miller or Boss, but I would prefer Miller.
I think Braylon would be a perfect compliment to Jacoby Ford and Chaz Schilens. Malcolm Floyd could also be an adequate signing, but he’s 30, injury-prone, and even Seyi Ajirotutu looked like a legit #1 WR with Rivers throwing to him. Braylon has been productive with Derek Anderson and Mark Sanchez…
Justin Smiley would be solid OG depth. 29 with starting experience.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:17 am
Kell….id prefer kickin ur ass early but u duckin in fear
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 am
I don’t care how big the contract is, as long as the Raiders have enough cap room to sign the players they need to.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 am
He always overpaid to keep who he wanted right?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:19 am
RaiderfanNY
When you look like this: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/526101/AlDavis1_medium.jpg
Blank checks will have to do.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:19 am
I’d seriously take a look at Braylon….dont like his diva back flips and schit but he better thaan our guys for sure
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:20 am
Kind of sad, but outside of Edwards and Floyd, Housh may be the best WR left on the market.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 am
Hahahaha Kell talkin bout how ppl look? Hilarious with that Mississippi river long nose of his
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 am
Hwnrdr Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 am
He always overpaid to keep who he wanted right?
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Like the ugly trick, I suppose.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:22 am
Derrick Mason would be guy
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:23 am
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind Mason at all. Hue and Saunders have experience with him. He’d just have to want to come here and know his role. He might be waiting by the phone for Baltimore to call him back…
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 am
Accurate analysis on Wimbley contract from Grantland.com:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6826009/cromartie-good-enough
On Monday, the Raiders re-signed outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley by giving him a five-year, $48-million deal that guarantees him $29 million. It is one thing to pay for Asomugha and set the market for dominant cornerbacks; Al Davis probably overpaid and helped create massive inflation for elite cornerbacks for years to come, but at least he was signing a truly excellent player. Wimbley is a pretty good pass rusher who had 11 sacks as a rookie in 2006. He’s averaged just over six sacks per season since, and although he had nine last year, three of them came in a meaningless Week 17 game against the already playoff-bound Chiefs.
Stare at that $29 million figure, because it’s truly grotesque. It’s nearly 50 percent more than the guaranteed money James Harrison got from the Steelers on his five-year deal after he won Defensive Player of the Year with a 16-sack campaign. It’s more than Asomugha was guaranteed in either his contract with the Raiders or with the Eagles. It is the sort of deal only Al Davis would make.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:30 am
Again – what does it matter as long as the Raiders have enough cap room to sign the players they need?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:31 am
NAPA, Calif. — In his first year as the head coach of the Oakland Raiders, Hue Jackson wants his players to understand the history of the franchise and the importance of restoring the winning tradition.
So Jackson turned on the film. And he pressed the way-back machine.
Jackson had a film produced that featured interviews with several of the team’s all-time great players like Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett and Jim Otto. Several other former Raider greats were featured including current coaches Steve Wisniewski, Rod Woodson and Greg Biekert.
Players spoke of what it meant to them to be a Raider. There were also plenty of highlights. To provide extra motivation, Jackson showed the team some highlights from the current players which he deemed were up to the standard of the Raiders of the 1970s and early 1980s.
“We’re chasing greatness,” Jackson said. “Not everyone is a Raider. I wanted them to see what it is and what it means to be a Raider. This is a special organization. There is history here and I want these guys to live up to being a Raider.”
Defensive lineman Richard Seymour said the message came through loud-and-clear.
“You could feel it,” Seymour said. “Just watching the film, showed the guys all the tradition of the this team. For me to see guys like Howe Long and Lyle Alzado, it was really inspiring.”
Jackson said it was especially powerful when film of Woodson, Wisniewski and Biekert were shown.
“Guys could look around and see those people in the room,” Jackson said. “Being a Raider is an opportunity. It’s a family.”
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:31 am
Not comfortable with the WR position at all, specifically because of Ford’s injury. Knowing how the Raiders handle injury news, “he’ll be ready by the opener” could very well mean “he’ll miss the first three games”.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:32 am
Not everyone is a Raider.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:30 am
Again – what does it matter as long as the Raiders have enough cap room to sign the players they need?
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??????????????????? Really?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:34 am
Take a look at this Kamerion Wimbley evaluation from last season, many will be surprised:
- “Raiders OLB Kamerion Wimbley finished as the Top Rated 4-3 OLB in Pro Football Focus rankings.
How did this guy get no press?.
36 quarterback disruptions as he rushed the passer in nickel situations, and some really strong work in run defense.
Finished the year as our top ranked 4-3 outside linebacker. Great pick up.
A change of scenery did him good. Sent packing from Cleveland’s 3-4 defense to a fresh start in Oakland’s 4-3, Wimbley exploded.
He jumped from the bottom five 3-4 OLB’s in 2009 to the top spot among 4-3 OLB’s in 2010.
Wimbley was stronger as a pass rusher from the year before, but we saw a bigger leap in his Run D, improving from -8.6 to a +13.3 grade.
To many, miscast in the Raiders 4-3, Oakland got the best out of Wimbley in sub package defenses where he picked up pressure on 20.88% of the third and fourth down plays he spent hunting QB’s.
It may have surprised some when Kamerion Wimbley was given the franchise tag, but it didn’t surprise us.
Wimbley may not be a prototypical outside linebacker given his limitations in coverage, but he more than makes up for it with his everydown work in run defense and pass rushing efforts in sub packages.
The former Brown is another one of those run defenders who do a lot of good work without needing to make a tackle.
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Interesting, uh?.
In case some are wondering how do these guys come up with their rankings, here it is…
Pro Football Focus explained:
The goal of our detailed grading process is to gauge how players execute their roles over the course of a game by looking at the performance of each individual on each play.
We look beyond the stat sheet at game footage to try to gain an understanding of how well a lineman is blocking on a given play, how much space and help a runner is being given on a play, how effectively a pass rusher brings pressure or how well a defender covers a receiver.
We collect lots of extra statistics such as yards after catch, yards after contact, missed tackles, dropped passes etc., but our real focus is on grading individual performance on each play.
Did an offensive lineman seal his block to spring the runner through a hole? Did a defensive lineman beat his block to force a runner to change the play direction in the backfield? Was the crucial third-down completion due to the quarterback beating the coverage or a breakdown in coverage?.
We examine not just the statistical result of a play, but the context of that statistic.
The defensive tackle may have made a tackle on a play, but if it was third and 5 and he got blown 4 yards off of the ball to make the tackle after a 6-yard gain, that’s not a good play.
Throughout the course of the season (regular season and playoffs) we grade every single offensive, defensive and special teams snap.
We log data such as the point of attack of a running play, the location a pass was thrown and hang time of kicks and punts before moving on to the player-performance analysis.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:35 am
??????????????????? Really?
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Yes, really. It’s not my money. I don’t care how much of it gets spent. All I care is that the team has enough cap room to improve the roster.
Al has never been shy about giving out big contracts. That’s old news. Sure it’s ridiculous, and you have to laugh at the Wimbley and Routt contracts, but in the end it doesn’t really matter. If Al has enough money to pay them, then more power to them. The only thing that matters in my mind is how much cap room the Raiders have, because that directly affects their ability to improve the team.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:36 am
Dell
I’m in….save my spot, I’ll join soon, just have to check my yahoo mail.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:36 am
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
The more people around the league talk, the more obvious is it the Giants will not get back a first-round pick for Osi Umenyiora. Next move.
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We don’t want Osi and his need for big money…
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:37 am
Marley, Dell’s FFL needs you.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:38 am
The former Brown is another one of those run defenders who do a lot of good work without needing to make a tackle.
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Sounds like DHB, he does a lot of good work without catching a pass.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:39 am
Good stuff Marley, is all that analysis on Wimbley at the Pro Football Focus site?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:41 am
Jacoby Ford’s recovery timeline uncertain after breaking hand
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 2, 2011, 9:27 AM EDT
Raiders wide receiver Jacoby Ford broke his hand last week in camp, with the Raiders initially saying he could be back in two weeks.
Subsequent reports said it might be more like 3-4 weeks, and now coach Hue Jackson will only say that he believes Ford will be ready for the season opener.
Losing Ford in training camp is a big blow because the Raiders are expecting him to take a big step forward this year. The Raiders also haven’t seen Darrius Heyward-Bey practice yet because of an undisclosed injury. (Shocker.)
For now, Chaz Schilens is healthy and Louis Murphy are lining up as starters. Oakland’s wideout depth is decent, but at times it feels like they have four No. 2/No. 3 receivers.
That’s one reason why they can’t afford to lose Zach Miller.
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Jacoby timetable for return expanded?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:43 am
again no representation at wr. you got it right guest
they need miller and bush
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:44 am
Guest123
Yes, it’s all on pro football focus site, but not on a single piece, I did a copy and paste from several articles where Wimbley’s game was studied.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:45 am
Braylon Edwards
Malcolm Floyd
Steve Smith (won’t be ready for the beginning of the season)
Derrick Mason
…
… the WR well runs pretty dry after those guys.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:47 am
Koolkell
The former Brown is another one of those run defenders who do a lot of good work without needing to make a tackle.
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Sounds like DHB, he does a lot of good work without catching a pass.
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Old man, they analyze the context of the play, say a runner is headed towards Wimbley’s side and he’s forced to change direction because Kam is right in front, that’s a good play where he didn’t make the tackle but forced the RB to go away from where the play was designed to go.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
Even if Wimbley had a better year than I thought, he’s still not worth $29 million guaranteed. No other team would have paid him anywhere near that.
Some of that money could have been used to pick up a guard like Harvey Dahl, a right tackle, a corner, a veteran WR or to add veteran depth at any position — not to mention to help keep Zach Miller.
This team has too many needs to give so much dough to a second-tier strong-side LB. We don’t even have a real weak-side LB.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
[...] reports said it might be more like 3-4 weeks, and now coach Hue Jackson will only say that he believes Ford will be ready for the season [...]
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
276.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:37 pm
U got shorties…then u may as well square up…id suggest that for anyone
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LOL!
Is that how you see it?
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:49 am
Hunter…
Count me in on Dell’s league.
Who are you?.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:50 am
Old man, they analyze the context of the play, say a runner is headed towards Wimbley’s side and he’s forced to change direction because Kam is right in front, that’s a good play where he didn’t make the tackle but forced the RB to go away from where the play was designed to go.
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Oh, I seeeee. Lol.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:51 am
When the raiders when the superbowl hue jackson should take the trophy n be like kiss my ass to all those who doubted him and what he is doing to turn things around. Something Cable couldnt even do. And i really do hope we win a Sb before nnamdi ever even smell a Sb does he not know the eagles have a history of choking??? And if we do win it Michael should just laugh in nnamdi face and say “your dumbass should have been loyal, maybe you would have a ring” ha i love it i love the raiders! WIN LOSE OR TIE RAIDERS TIL I DIE
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:51 am
RaiderfanNY Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
Some of that money could have been used to pick up a guard like Harvey Dahl, a right tackle, a corner, a veteran WR or to add veteran depth at any position — not to mention to help keep Zach Miller.
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Shows a kind of poor understanding of the situation. Wimbley was franchised because the 1-year tender he was offered (at a comparatively modest $4 million) was voided. This deal replaced the franchise tag, and reduced the cap number greatly. The Raiders are now under the cap, and have more money to spend on the players they want.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:52 am
Where were the Raiders ranked against the run, again? I forgot.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:53 am
Thanks for the work Marley. Good stuff!
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:54 am
When you don’t play with gap discipline on the defensive line, when your linemen are all trying to get to the ball carrier, and your back seven are all in man coverage, you’re not going to stop the run.
Has nothing to do with players. Has EVERYTHING to do with a scheme that emphasizes some vague notion of “beating the guy in front of you” instead of working as a team to stop the run and prevent big plays.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:58 am
297.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 1st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
LA….i never understood the black vs brown beef….dont get it at all….like how did that schit start?
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LOL!
LA just didn’t wanna put it out there.
Bottom line was a series of events that included some crip dudes snatching some MAJOR weight from some browns in a deal gone bad. Bodies and all, of course.
Browns (on that level anyway) are real big on the honor amongst thieves code, and subsequently simply shut down ALL business with blacks.
I’m sure you can let your imagination flow and fill in the rest of the blanks as to what happened next.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:58 am
NY
-Even if Wimbley had a better year than I thought, he’s still not worth $29 million guaranteed. No other team would have paid him anywhere near that.-
Well, I can agree on that one, but Al overpays guys he likes, that’s not news.
I think the value in Wimbley lies in his versatility, strongside LB’s usually leave the field on passing downs (about 50% plus of snaps nowadays) but not Wimbley who turns into a Pass Rushing specialist on such downs, so he’s an everydown player for us.
It’s like getting a 2 for 1, instead of paying a strongside LB to handle 1st and 2nd downs and then paying someone else to come in and rush the passer on passing situations, we have Wimbley doing both.
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:59 am
Im not a Doctor although I do on occasion play the part of a gyno. Fractures take longer to heal than a break does but I believe they can put a cast on him and even 1 1/2 hands are better than 2 of DHB’s.
Stop the whining already, its only a matter of days before Schillens hobbles off the field and then our real probs begin.
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# YoungAmerican Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 6:31 am
Not comfortable with the WR position at all, specifically because of Ford’s injury. Knowing how the Raiders handle injury news, “he’ll be ready by the opener” could very well mean “he’ll miss the first three games”.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:00 am
5 Teams interested in Osi:
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The five teams that have expressed an interest are the St. Louis Rams, the San Diego Chargers, the Seattle Seahawks, the Denver Broncos and the Baltimore Ravens.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:00 am
Losing Miller would be a blow – but it wouldn’t wreck the season. He has been effective as the QB’s second, third….or even fourth read but, that was mainly because our WRs were so ineffective and/or our QBs were so uncertain. Now that our WRs are maturing and improving and now that Campbell is certain of his start and his command, we shouldn’t need to check down to the TE so often.
And I really like Myers – he has improved every year and did well when Miller was hurt last year.
And Gordon looks a beast and a steal.
And Ausberry has the potential to be a real big-playmaker – good hands, real speed.
If Miller really wants to play 2nd TE in Seattle, good luck to him. We won’t need him so much this season and if Myers, Gordon and Ausberry progress as hoped, we won’t miss him too much.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:01 am
-but I believe they can put a cast on him and even 1 1/2 hands are better than 2 of DHB’s.-
Lol.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:03 am
Clayton has just tweeted:
Before re-doing and extending the Wimbley contract in Oakland, the Raiders were $173 million over the cap. They’ll get under.
Guess he means $1.73m.
Not sure that is enough for Miller.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:04 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Before re-doing and extending the Wimbley contract in Oakland, the Raiders were $173 million over the cap. They’ll get under.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:04 am
I expected to wake up and read that ZM was a Seahawk. Well I guess no news is good news. The Raiders are still in the running.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 am
caplannfl Adam Caplan
Raiders, BTW, are looking to restructure a bunch of contracts.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 am
Michael Silver picks Raiders to play in AFC Championship game this year…
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 am
I assumed he meant $17.3 m over the cap
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:05 am
Well it looks like Al is trying anyway.
Don’t lose hope on Miller yet.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 am
Zach Miller usually draws plenty of attention on passing downs, our WR’s have never been able to take advantage of it, Jacoby Ford being the exception on the 2nd half of the season.
If our WR’s continue to suck, it may not be worth to hand Miller a huge deal.
But he’s a very good player, we should do what we can to get him back and hope the WR’s can start doing their job.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 am
Marley,
Did you see those calls to you from Dell up above? It is FFootball time and he wants you in our league.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 am
Raidertay…Correct
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Sorry for the typo. The Raiders are $17.3 million over. Forgive the typo. Just waking up.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:08 am
Dakota
I already told him to save my spot, I’ll join later today or tomorrow….gotta run, later.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:09 am
Sorry, YoungAmerican. I understand that the Raiders gave Wimbley the money to reduce his cap number this year. But we still haven’t picked up any starters in free agency and most of the legit starters are gone.
More importantly, the $29 million guaranteed will affect the Raiders’ cap for several years. The contract is also too rich for a team that appears to be cash-poor when compared to other teams. In short, Wimbley will have to be a top-level player for several years if the contract is not to haunt the Raiders — as so many other contracts have haunted the team in recent years.
There’s a reason that most teams, including well-run teams like Pittsburgh and New England, don’t give big pots of guaranteed money to players who aren’t superstars. Such contracts usually don’t work out.
And it’s simply nuts, on any level, that Wimbley got more guaranteed money than Nnamdi. Unexplainable.
I do agree with you about gap discipline, though.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:10 am
Marley, I’m Al Davis.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:10 am
Sign Zach Miller first and go get Braylon Edwards he still has some tred left on his tires. We need another WR on this team quick. Heck Braylon’s average hands are still better than DHBs, most likely Murphys as well.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 am
Al trade a 3rd rounder for Osi……move Shaughnessy to LDE….move Houston to UT and dump Kelly’s sorry ass
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 am
Thanks for the post on Wimbley, Marley.
I’ll look forward to JFBs response to that post, lol.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 am
I think we are going to miss Nam put there on the field but you can’t keep paying that big # for a corner year after year. I was all for keeping him but when you are building up a team and need cash flow I can understand leting him go.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:12 am
We should get floyd. Edwards is in trouble with the law. Floyd would be good since Dhb not doing anything and with ford hirt i say why not bring him in
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:13 am
no miller and no bush=no offense
D’ gets tired very fast
GO GET MILLER and BUSH
PLEASE
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:14 am
Clayton now thinks the Raiders are $17.3m over. No chance, JC. I guess far more restructuring has been done but, as is policy in Al-town, nothing has been released to the media.
And no-one tweets from Alameda.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:15 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Sorry for the typo. The Raiders are $17.3 million over. Forgive the typo. Just waking up.
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My source (Jhill) has us $17.3 under the cap…..but Al is looking to sign Miller to a 1 year $30 million dollar deal, so he is thinking about cutting Darren McFadden and Richard Seymour to make room for Miller, and Al is also restructuring Sam Williams contract to make him the highest paid 53rd man in the NFL.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:16 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:19 am
good morning R8eray
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:20 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Before re-doing and extending the Wimbley contract in Oakland, the Raiders were $17.3 million over the cap.
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Damn Dakota!
How in the heck were we 15 million over the cap before the lockout lifted, and now only 17 million before Wimbley restructured.
We’ve only spent 2 million on all those guys we signed?
And people complain about Al overspending, lol.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:20 am
Hiram Eugene is due $2m this year. He must be vulnerable with Huff re-signing.
McFadden, Routt and Seymour account for over $32m in 2011 salaries – plenty of scope for adjustment.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:21 am
Kell shut the fk up…..we all hate ur guts and dont want u on this site. Ur a snitch and Raider hater
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 am
Scottish Raider
You and I both were saying Trent Edwards during the off season. At least I think I remember you being the other person in here who was saying go after Edwards like I was.
Anyways 17M over the cap I am guessing that is a conservative estimate. We are overpaying way too many average players.
I think Wimbly is good but not worth 48M I think Routt is good but not worth Nnamdi money.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 am
Jhill….yeah u better square up for your shorty……and thanks for clarification on blk vs brown thing yeah i filled in blaank on other issues as well lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 am
What up, Nation.
Why not get Zach on the roster now to whatever reasonable deal (no, jokes, please lol) and work out the cap issues in the next 48 hours (or however many)?
Can’t they cut DHB and resign him to like the league minimum once he clears waivers? Leaves dead cap space on future years but it would be there anyway no?
We need a bonafide Madden Capologist up in the front office right now, sh;t.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 am
448.J Hill Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:20 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Before re-doing and extending the Wimbley contract in Oakland, the Raiders were $17.3 million over the cap.
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Damn Dakota!
How in the heck were we 15 million over the cap before the lockout lifted, and now only 17 million before Wimbley restructured.
We’ve only spent 2 million on all those guys we signed?
And people complain about Al overspending, lol.
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Man Jhill, can you imagine that we were $35 million under the cap and by signing some undrafted rookies, our own rookies, Moss, Huff, Barnes and Trent Edwards and other assorted garbage Al must have spent $52 million?
Man, those undrafted rookie free agents must really have cashed in huh?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:24 am
Dakota
Just know that we are trying to get under the cap so we can sign Bush to a 3 year 50 Million dollar deal.
Once that is done our backup QB needs a 30 Million dollar deal.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:25 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 am
Jhill….yeah u better square up for your shorty……
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Need to quit pushin’ weight like a Mack truck, son. J can’t get caught up with the law, we need him shaving cap dollards in Alameda.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:26 am
Man, those undrafted rookie free agents must really have cashed in huh?
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Dead weight from Southwick’s undisclosed 80 million dollar deal.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:26 am
Cut DHB and have to deal with his dead money issues next year?
The Cowboys created 29 million or so worth of dead $ towards next years cap cutting the guys they did this year. Or at least that’s what master capologist Johnnie Clayton said.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:27 am
Ambase….yawwwwwwnnnnnn miller is good player not great. Already seen us win without Zach. Spare me the no offense tag. dmac was our best offensive player last season or have u forgot?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:27 am
Damn. Was going to get Miller’s jersey this year….
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:29 am
GM 123, hopefully signing Wimbley to a big contract will result in a few good players….cap wise!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:29 am
and other assorted garbage
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LOLOLOLOL!
That is hilarious.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:29 am
Jhill cap dollars goin into a trip up north in early october
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:31 am
Speed Kills….but in our case its gonna commit genociide for defenses this season……..CODE BLACK 2011!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:32 am
J can’t get caught up with the law,
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Too old for that, mayne.
Unlike Vito and Michael, I was able to make the Hill family completely legitimate!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:34 am
Southwick lol….funniest thing on blog
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:35 am
Forgot who Miller is already…..sign Floyd, Morrison and Goodwin (move WizII to guard..that will take care of our O-line)!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:35 am
Yeah, and I can pretty much guarantee I’m coming back for the Detroit game.
I think that game is going to be a WAR and have playoff implications for both teams.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:36 am
Lol yeah well jhill u in ya 40s….what u pose to be like Suge Knight still living off the 90s?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:36 am
an inside source tells me the raiders will be looking for a vet. tight end today, possibly kevin boss form nyg.. also look for the raiders to grab a couple cast-off o-linemen and possibly a vet. cb..
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:37 am
Where’s Richochet ?????
I’m going to try and play Pebble Beach the Sat before the Det game.
You out there Rich????
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:37 am
Jhill ive been saying Detroit would be a good game….week 15 and right around B@uce’s bday!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:37 am
Silverandblack666 – really pleased about Edwards. I think he has the most potential of all the FA QBs – good size, good arm, smart kid. He has just had the misfortune to always play behind porous O’lines. His health insurance premiums must be bigger than the US national debt!!
Not sure Wimbley is too over-paid – still only the 4th highest paid LB. And he will deliver and can still improve.
I think Routt is a tad expensive but, his stats from last year were impressive and he will get less attention with NA gone from the other side.
My worries on salary are actually more about the non-starters. The Raiders have tended to pay far too much for special teamers and back-ups. For example:
1) Michael Bennett $890k (2011 salary)
2) Rock Cartright $800k
3) Hiram Eugene $2m
4) Kyle Boller $1.25m
5) John Henderson $2.5m
Happy for us to pay top dollar for top starters. Unhappy for us to pay starting money to back-ups.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:38 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:29 am
Jhill cap dollars goin into a trip up north in early october
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And after he watches the Raiders put the beatdown on somebody, his El Camino’s gonna come back about a kilo heavier.
Unless J traded it in for the minivan for the shorties and his old lady.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
belalways do you watch games or just say dumb things
w/o Miller or Bush Mcfadden gets beat up and there goes his career. Reece cant block so thay leaves bennett and cartright?
he cant take the pounding. w/o miller who do you throw to you knucklehead. our wide-outs?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
Wimbley held Al’s feet to the fire thanks to the franchise tag Al slapped on him. Should have just let Wimbley become a free agent and then let the market set his price…..Al would be paying him much less right now if he had done it that way.
He doesn’t get anything near that on the open market.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
J Raider….i hope its Kevin Boss….and id take a hard look at Stacy Andrews for one of our Guard slots…..vet cb? camp fodder i bet
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:40 am
was just informed Miller will be in seattle until at least thursday.. not a good sign.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:40 am
Suge Knight was a clown!
Got stories for days on that dude.
Was NEVER a gangster.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:41 am
Ambase lol excuse me? U are out ur league new fish….I ace and shred u at every corner on Raider related matters. Im at every game fool
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:42 am
Dakota Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
Wimbley held Al’s feet to the fire thanks to the franchise tag Al slapped on him. Should have just let Wimbley become a free agent and then let the market set his price…..Al would be paying him much less right now if he had done it that way.
He doesn’t get anything near that on the open market.
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Al wasn’t going to risk hm walking.
You watch his interview though and Wimbley seems to be all business. I think he’ll earn it. Ol boy is serious.
Compare that to Huff’s interview and you can tell he’s BSing some or most of his story.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:42 am
477
andrews looks done imo.. bad knees..
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:42 am
his El Camino’s gonna come back about a kilo heavier.
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That is HILARIOUS!
Was just talking to wifey about an El Coh the other day. Told her I needed a truck, lol.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:44 am
belalways
you know that raiders win w/o Miller. maybe footballs hit you in the head when you are at the games
Since when have they won w/o him
i guess your definition of winninjg is 8 and 8. or 5-10
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:44 am
On the real though, LA
I don’t know why B won’t hollar at me.
I could make that young man RICH!
I need a No Cal plug in the worst way.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:44 am
Lol without bush and miller he takes a pounding? Yeah miller opening up holes for him hahahahahahahahaha. U damn right u throw to your wRs! TE is a safety valve and should never be your main target….have u ever watched football?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:44 am
480.
ive been at raiders vs. chiefs in kc 3 years striaght and this year will make it my fourth.. anyone else gonna be there ??
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:45 am
I am sorry but as good of a LB as Wimbly is he is not worth 48 Million.
No disrespect to the player here just a poor job by the GM if you ask me.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:46 am
Ambase…..chiefs game last year in oakland without miller……now shut up
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:47 am
488
wimbly is the raiders version of a joey porter/ pass rushing lb specialist, to al he is worth the money.. to the defense, well he is almost worth the money.. gotta remember the raiders tied for first in sacks last year..
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:48 am
Jhill i know all abouut Suge Knight….he use to get punked back in the day. He learned his bullying tactic from that crip ngga who went to jail or what have….he was Suge’s biz patna. Suge faker than these bzies weaves
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:48 am
489
yes! i was there!! they hate us in kc! i love it!!!!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:49 am
J Raider….im always there lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:49 am
Oh u mean in KC? hell naw never!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:51 am
Ambase any futile rebuttal about not winning without Zach now?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:51 am
Wimbly = overpaid
Routt = overpaid
Jano = overpaid
Lechler = overpaid
TK = overpaid
I am sure there are more but just look at the list and you can see why we are a .500 that is way over the cap and had no 1st round draft pick last year and next year no 2nd and 4th.
Its like the government borrowing from our children to pay for today.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 am
belalways
you know winning
last time raiders won with tight ends
Dave Casper and T.C.
Miller is the man
and yea you throw to him to open up the rushing for D’MAC
so our wide-out DHB(cant catch) Louis Murphy-good but not an every down receiver
Ford is too small
so genius who do you pass to?
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 am
Miller prolly got a belly ache after eating some bad clams in seattle last night. . WTF!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 am
Should have just let Wimbley become a free agent and then let the market set his price….
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And risk losing him and have to sit here and listen to a couple of whiners go on and on about how we just let the best 4-3 OLB in the league (see Marley’s post) go to Seattle?
The Raiders got effed over by the contract.
I can’t believe the league approves these contracts.
Wimbley had a contract that expired for some reason, but the contract gave the team an option to buy another year of the contract for 3.5 million. But that 3.5 million was 30% more than he made the previous year, so the contract voids??????
WTF?????
Was it NOT known that 3.5 million would be 30% more than 800k when the contract was signed? The buy back option was never a real option to begin with.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 am
U better run ur BS somewhere else newbie….Im posted like streets signs and Im on my schit like bad bowel moves
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:53 am
If they dont wanna be a Raider, we dont want them. That simple..
Al is as Al does.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:53 am
Fool Ambase….a tight end doesnt make life easier for a RB lol……u dont know football at all lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 am
J, I keep telling him about the SoCal to NoCal connect.
I’ve long since not had to worry bout such things, but my boys telling me after holding down a certain section of the market for a long minute they had to diversify.
The Stores are killing the botany business, as it were.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 am
U better run ur BS somewhere else newbie….Im posted like streets signs and Im on my schit like bad bowel moves
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Ouch!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:55 am
Glad to see Aso go. He dont want to be a Raider, good bye.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:55 am
Miller wants to play in rain soaked seattle, have at it baby!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 am
Murphy not an every down WR? Lol okay…he isnt a number 1 but he damn sure is a 2 and Ford is a perfect slot wr. For all intent and purposes we rollin with Chaz as a WR….a number 1 wr is far more important than a TE
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 am
497
jacoby ford is the clone of steve smith, why do you say hes too small?
murphy will come into his own eventually.
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 am
Bealways
you are whats known as a knucklehead and a jackie
guess you dont Casper or Todd-super bowl wins
that is winning
any real raider knows who im talking about and Miller is the same man
talk to me when you think you know something
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 am
Lol jhill will make me a rich man
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 am
dont forget about ausberry!!! hue-jack says he killin it out there!
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 am
Ambase sorry buddy but i got a proven track record on here…u dont
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:01 am
ambase
didnt the packers lose one the best tight ends in the nfl to injury last year? im guessing their backup tight end won them the superbowl????
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:01 am
U are stupid and a hypocrite Ambase…..u talk about casper and todd…forgetting chester….but u remember our wr play then? Thank you!
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:02 am
I could see miller in a sea hawks jersey gettin dropped and concusssed by # 55 out for 3 weeks holding cables hand on the side line right by Gallery’s soft pu$$y a$$.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:02 am
bealways
and what is your proven track record? defining winning as 8 and 8?
thats like saying the Jets are winners
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:02 am
Only an idiot says TE opens stuff up for a RB…..miller not doing deep outs or post corner routes u imbecile!
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:03 am
good tight end doesn’t = superbowl victory…
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:04 am
Ambase u dummy u are new here and near to wipe the similac from ur mouth…..i got countless posts saying 8-8 is not winning so shut the fk up u lil h0m0
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:05 am
J Raider……gates and gonzo perfect examples of TE being best WR and nothing comes from it
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:05 am
Miller is not the man…he a good player but totally replaceable
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:05 am
I see a David Ausberry jersey in my future.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 am
Hahahahaha Offbase is saying Miller gave dmac running lanes lol…..yeah with his stellar blocking
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 am
j-raider and Bealways
you guys must be in diapers
all im saying is Miller is similiar to those guys
we havent had a great TE since those winning ways
Hell I would have liked HEAP
WE DONT HAVE RECEIVERS
WE NEED BUSH and MILLER to take the heat off of D’MAc
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 am
359.hwnrdr Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I like that…DMac gliding by RoMac as if he was a cardboard cutout…I don’t know about The Greatest Show On Turf Part 2 as of yet!
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Greatest Show on Dirt (at least through October)
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:08 am
Offbase….go sit in the corner lil fella….ur on timeout…now put on the Dunce cap
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 am
ambase
why get a worn down replacement like heap? that would be a major downgrade at the position.. better off to stick a rookie in there to learn some hands on nfl experiance!
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 am
Bush is locked in to a 1st and 3rd round tender. He isnt leaving… stop worrying about him. He isnt in practice because he CANT practice until 8/4
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:11 am
Offbase….we dont have a number 1! but we have wrs….this is what mental midgets like u fail to realize……miller cant do nada to take pressure off of Dmac. He is a TE and a awful blocking one at that
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:11 am
so BeAlways
if no miller and bush what is your proven strategy
TIKI BArber?. You already have Jones who has a hammy, no Bush, and no Miller
so lets key on D’amc. where is your offense pinhead?
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Offbase doesnt know football at all….only a fool thinks a TE opens field up for a RB…how far does Miller’s routes go up the field?
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 am
The TE may not be important to some teams offense. But the raiders have to value zach he’s been an important clog in the raiders offensive scheme since he’s been here. An I think everyone who’s watched the team play knows an understands that
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 am
bealways
you can even leave DHB with no one covering him and he still cant catch a pass
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:14 am
Offbase when did I even mention Bush? Stay on toppic dummy im talkin bout Miller….how stupid and simple can u be?
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:15 am
Offbase u may wanna read posts byy me about dhb then u will shut da fk up about that
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:16 am
DHB should be no more than a 4th wr…i said this couuntless times u pea brain dummy
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:16 am
Zach attracts the double team. Which opens up the field for our WR.
Not sure that it helps the RB’s much tho
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:17 am
Cain exactly! Offbase doesnt know football and should never post again….they got a woman’s monthly blog that would suit well cuz football is obviously not it for the dummy
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:20 am
Be always I have been talking about both since i started this
get the wax out of your ears
you need them both to open it up Darren
im glad the ysigned MArcel
One thing we have in common its the Silver and Black
I started back in the 70’s my man
i been through it all
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:20 am
Aso is a lil bit€¤ too that robot talkin fuc€. Look at the qb’s and wr’s he is going against over there in the nfc east, week $hit.
I would love to meet the eagles in the SB. You never now maybe not this year but next. I see nothing stopping us but injuries we are finally going in the right direction FINALLY! Who cares we didn’t blow our wad in fa, I like the idea of us bringing the youngsters in. We got vet qb, best rb combo, vet d line and the top 3rd ranked cb, speed speed and more speed. Oh yea forgot tio mention the next gruden leading the way.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:22 am
TEs open running lanes for DMAc especially when they cant block lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:22 am
Rescue us Jerry! Steve’sheart just isn’t in it. Christ, I have staff employees who speak English as a second language who could update us faster.
Hell, hire Dakota, COW, jhill, etc., you fellas have some substance.
Kell you know you are on substance.
The rest of you just bore me with your warring mentality and uninspired commentary…
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:23 am
Offbase=imbecile
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 am
Fk Zach Miller if he bounces…..we can sign Kevin Boss and that will be fine. He can ctach run and block
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 am
Bealways you are exhasting
I know what a winning Raider team is you dont. I have senn 3 of them
is this your first time to the dance?
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:26 am
Offbase…..yawwwwwnnnnnn to that lame crap….u obviously aint been to one since u think TEs make running lanes for running backs lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:27 am
“DHB should be no more than a 4th wr…i said this couuntless times u pea brain dummy”
Jhill, Dakota,&c., I will put up the cash to:
1) Hire a full time writer
2) Host the blog, &c.
Something wherein MR and his like could never be granted access, is membership only, and openly discriminates against those that are ethnically and cereberally handicapped.
It’s 11:26 PM for me, and I want substantive updates, not comments from the mentally ill.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:27 am
Zach wasnt the reason for dmac getting off at all…he had nda to do with it u dummy
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 am
Why does he keep saying we dont have Bush? You do realize that if Bush somehow refuses to sign his tender he CANT play anywhere else (without us getting a 1st and 3rd round pick). We own his rights. AND if he doesnt sign by August 9th under the new CBA anti-holdout provisions he doesnt get the season accrued towards free agency so he will be restricted AGAIN next year.
Do you really think thats going to happen? Bush will be at camp on Thursday.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 am
Down Low man hahahahahaha
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:29 am
Bcz…Offbase doesnt realize this….not exactly sharpest knife in the drawer
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:29 am
501.Whatever Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 7:53 am
If they dont wanna be a Raider, we dont want them. That simple..
Al is as Al does.
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Fair enough observation. Al’s regular season record over the last 20 years is 140-178. That is what he did. So what does that make him?
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:30 am
MR would commit suicide if that happened
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:32 am
Anyways….bout to make some money….shift is on….at ya later
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:33 am
Bealways
you talk way too much you moron
this is not about Miller and blocking to open it up for D’Mac
hes your only receiver(possesion)
you need miller and bush both know the system along with darren
the 3 headed beast
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:34 am
Hall and Oates mop?
Bo is USMC low coast fool. Vslc yesterday, today, and your birfday too.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:34 am
From everything Ive read Kevin Boss is determined to stay in NY. Then again money talks.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:37 am
Shoreline in the house!!!!!!!
Sorry, Bo, we had to have some fun at your expense, otherwise me and B were gonna have to meet in Bakersfield and throw down. He’s like my @$$hole cousin, after all, LOL.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:37 am
Leonard Davis is under 350lbs and reportly in great shape. Sign him Al
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:38 am
Ahhhhhh…
Bo = nationbuilder
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 am
Phil Buchanon on the juice? Still didn’t help him.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 am
Bo brokered the peace treaty and wasn’t even here.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:41 am
Sholine has big shoulders for this
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:43 am
Braylon Edwards had another brush with the law last night. A few guys in his entourage got in a scuffle at the restaurant they were at which spilled into the kitchen and resulted in one person needing 14 stitches and another being stabbed with a fork. Braylon tweated about the fight, but quickly retracted them this morning saying ‘his phone was stolen’ no charges are being brought against him but it could result in a parole violation. Im sure the league nazi goodell will have words for him as well. Brilliant for a guy currently without a contract… just cost himself a few million at least
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 am
Nnadmi saying we never made him an offer stings because you figure Routt woulda stayed for 6 or 7 mill Kam for the same and what ever we offered Cro we coulda offered Nnam. Oh well, I keep thinking Hue’s gonna have us competeing for a playoff berth with whomever decides to be with us
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 am
Per PFT:
Kamerion Wimbley Injured at Raiders Camp
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 2, 2011, 11:46 AM EDT
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/kamerionwimbleyinjuredatraiderscamp
After signing a new deal worth an eye-popping $48 million over 5 years, Kamerion Wimbley strained back his back after putting his wallet back in his pocket after practice.
Wimbley expects to miss the next 5 years, recovering on a private island purchased by current and former Raiders with funds acquired from owner and Managing General Partner Al Davis.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 am
I don’t think seattle will sign miller, cables not the gm and obviously miller wants alot of $. I think al over pays every body so if miller turned it down then somethings not right. I haven’t seen any raider take so long to agree to the contract since fat a$$ jr. Why would seattle pay big bucks when they already have a good young te and a cap to manage also. That’s just a bit € h move by him even if its his agents idea.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:48 am
We are going black to the future with Hu Jack! There is only one silver and black. Welcome the Oakland Raiders, the bully ball edition.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/29848/jackson-brings-riaders-back-to-the-future
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:48 am
wow, killed it with his ’strained back his back after putting his wallet back.’
Gonna go lick my wounds. Dakota much better at this than I am.
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:53 am
LA to TheBay Blows Gag Article. Will Stick to Day Job.
Posted by L. A. Toodabay on August 2, 2011, 11:53 AM EDT
August 2nd, 2011 at 8:57 am
Hue Jack City® gonna handle business. Physical practices, lots of energy, knows how to get points on the board.
I’m sure he’d like to have Zach back on the squad though.
Make it happen, Al.
How are you over the cap, still haven’t inked Zach and you’re hosting free agent scrubs?
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 am
LA2Bay,
this is the style of writing we need…
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:08 am
How are you over the cap, still haven’t inked Zach and you’re hosting free agent scrubs?
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Easy,
Johnnie Clayton is wrong. We are not over the cap.
No team in the NFL is, lol!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:10 am
Lowdown,
Appreciate ya, but a blog full of poster that agree would be pretty boring.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:12 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aoffp0X29f4N98DaBSs4FXE5nYcB?slug=ms-silver_hue_jackson_right_as_raiders_coach080111
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Lowdown, once I get a chance later, I’ll post one of my little stories. Long overdue.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:20 am
“I talk boldly and carry a big stick.”
Hue Jackson!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:22 am
The Raiders should re-sign Mario Henderson, Samson Satele, Marcel Reece, Charlie Frye & Zach Miller this week.
Mike Bush will sign his RFA tender and be here soon enough.
the only “outsiders” we’ll add is probably one WR and one OL (low cost signings. FA’s that aren’t high in demand)
Owens, Housh, Mason, Smith (NYG), Boss … none of those guys would surprise me. I really want OG Brian Waters though
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 am
I know i’ve been pushing for Miller and still think he’s worth a fair contract. Now that his agent’s getting greedy and spun the table, if i was Al i would just say take this contract i offered or leave it! I’m so over it. Sign Boss already and let Miller thank his agent for landing him on a 6-10 team!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 am
* Raiders expressed interest in Ocho
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Schilens, Moore = not good enough?
* Raiders expressed interest in Cromartie
CJ37, McFadden, Ware, DVD, Chekwa (opposite Routt) = not good enough?
* Raiders had OT Gaither in for a visit
Barnes or Barksdale (opposite Veldheer) = not good enough?
* Raiders had LB Tatupu in for a visit
Groves, Goethel, Brown, Williams = not good enough?
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 am
If the WRs will play to the level an NFL WR is expected to perform, the TE situation wouldn’t really seem like such a big deal. That’s probably why other teams aren’t lining up to throw big money at Miller and why we shouldn’t either. The best thing that could happen to this team this season would be to see a significant drop in Miller’s numbers because there are other guys getting open downfield.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 am
Does any body know if we are wearing their throw backs this season they look tite especially with the old school helmets. Who would trade that for a stupid lill gay bird on the side of your dome??
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 am
Baace predicted that Daniel Loper wouldn’t start, even though Steve Corkran reported that if the season started today he’d be our LG.
Right now Loper’s only competition is Ben Lamaak, Alex Parsons & Roy Schuening … LOL
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 am
Well, maybe not the BEST thing. lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:30 am
“But I don’t even want to be the guy to gripe and moan ‘cause that’s not what I’m about”
Hue Jackson!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
Loper is tough give him a break lets talk down on him after he screws up dude hasn’t even played a down yet this season.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
* Raiders expressed interest in Ocho
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Schilens, Moore = not good enough?
* Raiders expressed interest in Cromartie
CJ37, McFadden, Ware, DVD, Chekwa (opposite Routt) = not good enough?
* Raiders had OT Gaither in for a visit
Barnes or Barksdale (opposite Veldheer) = not good enough?
* Raiders had LB Tatupu in for a visit
Groves, Goethel, Brown, Williams = not good enough?
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Justin Smiley visiting… Loper and Carlisle not good enough?
All very good questions.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
One obvious source of Jackson’s confidence: His team is better than most outsiders realize. Sure, we perpetually hear about the Raiders’ wealth of talent, and it has become an empty cliché. Obviously, succeeding in the NFL goes beyond size, speed and strength. Still, Oakland’s roster has a lot of that, and that makes Jackson’s heart race with excitement. For every big name like Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour, there are three potential studs whose names you may not even know.
Opposing players, coaches and personnel executives know all about the Raiders, however. “You better know they know,” Jackson says, “and they’re scared, for this reason: This is a giant. We have, in my opinion, some of the greatest talent in the world. But as we know, talent does not win football games. And what I have to do is convince this talent on a daily basis that they can do what it takes to win football games. If I can do that, I can awaken this giant.”
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:35 am
I’d be VERY surprised if Seattle ditches TE John Carlson to bring in Zach Miller.
He was the 38th overall pick in 2008 and he’s only 27 years old. 15 TD’s over the past 3 seasons (Miller has 9) and only slated to make $620k this year
Dakota knows he was a stud at Notre Dame!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:35 am
579.Deja vu Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 am
I know i’ve been pushing for Miller and still think he’s worth a fair contract. Now that his agent’s getting greedy and spun the table, if i was Al i would just say take this contract i offered or leave it! I’m so over it. Sign Boss already and let Miller thank his agent for landing him on a 6-10 team!
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No guarantee Boss would even sign here!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Justin Smiley visiting… Loper and Carlisle not good enough?
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YA,
excellent. thanks for bringing that up!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 am
If Zach Miller signs with Seattle for Top 3 TE money … we can probably sign John Carlson AND Kevin Boss for less than half of his new contract
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 am
@Rockstar
The only reason MIller has had 9 TD’s the past 3 years:
JaHambone
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 am
Depth is great on the oline, smiley is decent.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 am
How many TDs did Miller have last year without ‘the Chosen One’
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 am
Bcz — he had 5 last year and I think he was out what? maybe 3 weeks? with injury.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 am
My bad…out 1 week.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:46 am
talent does not win football games. And what I have to do is convince this talent on a daily basis that they can do what it takes to win football games
-Hue Jackson
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I’m glad Hue recognizes the major issue last year was CONSISTANCY. Murphy & Ford would make some huge plays and then have some crucial (and embarrassing drops or fumbles). Seymour & Kelly were beasts for half of a game and invisable the rest. Wimbley & Huff the same way. Routt & CJ37 can be shutdown corner and ballhawk or burnt toast on any given series. Jason Campbell looked great in some games and downright awful in others. Even Hue’s playcalling was questionable last year. sometimes great, sometimes good, sometimes average, sometimes terrible.
Hue is probably hoping that MOTIVATION is the cure to lack of consistancy. Cable was a big rah-rah no nonsense guy too and he couldn’t get this team “over the hump” as he put it. We’ll see if Jackson can do any better …
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 am
So 1td every third week? Come on guys, lets stop treating Miller like he is Antonio Gates. His departure will not cripple us and send us spiraling back to the depths of 11 loss seasons
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:49 am
The only reason MIller has had 9 TD’s the past 3 years:
JaHambone
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Fair enough. Miller hasn’t ever had a Top 15 QB
In Seattle he’s still be lacking one, but I guess MONEY would be the determining factor.
It’s obvious Oakland wants him back, but at what cost?
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 am
No guarantee Boss would even sign here!
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No there’s not, but i wouldn’t fall for Millers agents BS either. Take the contract offered or play for Sea and a 2nd string qb all season. Boss said he would play here and could get him a whole lot cheaper. Bring Boss in for talks and put the heat right back on Miller.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 am
^^^^^^^
No guarantee Boss would even sign here!
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“Appearing on Siruis XM Blitz with Adam Schein on Tuesday, Giants free agent tight end Kevin Boss confesses that he would have interest in the Raiders if Zach Miller departs.”
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/giants_free_agent_te_kevin_boss_has_interest_in_raiders/5733850
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 am
Zach Miller had 5 TD’s last year with Jason Campbell.
only 7 TD’s combined over the previous 3 years with McCown, Culpepper, Russell & Gradkowski at QB…
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 am
Miller needs come down to earth and and realize his value is not what he thinks. Dude is good and he plays good for us but he is acting like a stupid stuck up lill bit$h right now. I thought this guy was humble and a real raider???
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:55 am
In Seattle he’s still be lacking one, but I guess MONEY would be the determining factor.
It’s obvious Oakland wants him back, but at what cost?
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What’s the most money ever paid to a TE?
Take that number and multiply it by 1.5.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 am
Alge Crumpler if we can’t sign either?
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 am
5 TDs and he was injured.
Should have 10 a year if used properly.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 am
It seems like Miller is like for 6=7mil a year, but we could get Floyd for that and Boss for maybe 2 and be in MUCH better shape than we are with Miller.
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 am
Bring Boss in for talks and put the heat right back on Miller.
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that’s exactly right. It works both ways
Desmond Clark, Alge Crumpler & Bo Scaife too!
August 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 am
Boss would look good in silver and black
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 am
What’s the most money ever paid to a TE?
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LA,
Vernon Davis signed a six-year, $42.705 million contract. The deal contains $23 million guaranteed, including a $10 million signing bonus (last September)
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 am
Justin Smiley visiting Raiders
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 am
My neighbor say we should sign Boss for 1 yr and watch Seattles offer drop by half. Then if Miller wants to come back for his long term deal he was already offered here in Oak he can compete for his old spot.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 am
BCZ is correct.
Zach Miller would cost us $6 or $7 million per season to keep. Is he worth it?
I find it odd that the AZ Cardinals opted to sign Todd Heap instead of going after Zmiller (the hometown hero)
probably because the owner is cheap …
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 am
Don’t know if anyone saw this, but Ray Guy has to auction off his Super Bowl rings as part of his bankruptcy.
http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/31048152
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:04 am
Coach Jackson: He is locked in at safety, but he is one of the guys that can play several things but he is our safety. He is returning to the position he plays, and I am expecting a big season from him.
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Well, so much for the debut of MM34 as a starting S.
Unless Branch is about to be replaced as the SS that is.
Huff is back at FS.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 am
BCZ,
you think we could get Floyd & Boss for a combined $9 million per season?
I’ll take Miller at $6 and Owens at $3 …
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 am
I would take no other te previously mentioned except boss every thing else is trash. I would go with the guys we have, gordon and myers our blocking te’s and ausberry our receiving te. Cant beleives every one forgot about reece that guy is practictly a te coming out the back field , he gots hands and he can be a burner. WAKE UP.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 am
What’s the most money ever paid to a TE?
Take that number and multiply it by 1.5.
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You can’t be serious?
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
Its already been reported that floyd is seeking around 6 Million a year.
Owens and Miller for 9? You know TO only made 1 million to play in Cincy last year right?
I would rather have Floyd and Boss over Owens and Miller.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
2010 – Miller 8th in recep, 10th in YDS, 8th in TD
Carlson 33rd, 34th, tied for last
ZM80 should definitely not be highest pd. TE, but he makes Carlson look like a pop warner TE.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
J, saying what Al would pay.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 am
they disrespected boss by signing another TE after Kevin said he wanted to stay a Giant, bring him in instead of greedy and bad wheel havin Miller
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:11 am
Plain and simple, until yesterday there was NO market outside of Oakland for Miller. His agent is playing hardball by creating a market, one that will surely chap Al’s ass because of the Cable thing, and we should call his bluff. 5$ mill a year for 4 years 12 guaranteed. Take it or leave my friend.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 am
Imagine floyd , schillens, ford, dhb in a 4wr set. With dmac lining up in the back field. Time to drop da bomb!!!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 am
@ DEATHROW
Sounds sweet as long as we had Shell, Upshaw, and Otto blocking….ha
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:18 am
don’t wait on Zach while someone else snatches up Boss. I want guys that wanna be Raiders, bring in the BIG BOSSMAN
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 am
Imagine floyd , schillens, ford, dhb in a 4wr set. With dmac lining up in the back field. Time to drop da bomb!!!
thats a great dream for j campbell
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 am
BOSS BOSS BOSS, who has twitter? hit BOSS up on twitter let him know the NATION wants him
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 am
I think we should sign kevin boss too since miller want to be so greedy and then go to visit seattle i say bye bye miller hello boss
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
DHB might be in the doghouse
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
now that the wimbley deal is done lets bust a move on some new talent
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
DHB might be in the doghouse
why do u say this
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am
Miller set to return?
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.That’s the word from Mr. Raiders Radio, Greg Papa. He just said on 95.7 FM that “Zach Miller will be back with the Raiders.”
The tight end, an unrestricted free agent, was up in Seattle yesterday visiting with the Seahawks, after waiting for a week for Oakland to get under the salary cap. Yesterday, the Raiders did that by re-doing linebacker Kamerion Wimbley’s contract.
Papa put it well: “Al Davis didn’t just give Kamerion Wimbley $29 million to lose Zach Miller to Tom Cable.”
Wimbley tore up his $11.3 million franchise tag to sign up a five-year, $48 million contract, with $29 million of that guaranteed.
Papa should know, since he actually gets to peek behind the Silver and Black curtain.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=94489#ixzz1TtS1xSig
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am
Miller is important to our offense. Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Zach has earned out loyalty and respect. He’ll be in Silver a black agin this year. I can feel it in all the kool aid Im’ drinking!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am
Boss was 35/531/5 last year — 150 fewer yards than ZM on 25 fewer attempts with same TD’s
…I’ll take that.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am
My neighbors agrees. Sign Boss now and let Miller kick his agents a$$ for his value dropping like a rock.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 am
Ford had a few long catches last year, schillens didn’t get a chance cause of injury but I think he has the speed and eye hand coordination to catch the long ball. Just hope DHB can break out this year he has all the tools just needs to stop being nerveous I think he is putting to much pressure on his self, dude just needs some confidence!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:28 am
Raiderbuck Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 am
Miller is important to our offense. Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Zach has earned out loyalty and respect. He’ll be in Silver a black agin this year. I can feel it in all the kool aid Im’ drinking!
idk that seattle move was a low blow to a team who publicly said they want u
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:29 am
Dakota
i agree
if there is a pig headed man out there its Davis about not letting Miller go to Seattle b/c of Cable
Davis will do anything not to lose him
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:29 am
I would rather have Floyd and Boss over Owens and Miller.
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Maybe the reason Floyd is still unsigned is he is asking for 6 million a year.
Miller is taking advantage of FA status and trying to get every dollar he can. Can’t be mad at that.
Can’t be mad at the Raiders for not offering 1.5 times the amount of the highest paid TE.
I think we may be in a situation similar to Gallery’s in that Zach thinks he should be paid x amount of money to be the Raider TE. The Raiders countered with figure Y and like Gallery, are giving him the opportunity to guage the market and find a deal elsewhere.
You can not look past the fact that Ausberry and Gordon were drafted, and the team is satisfied with Meyers.
The team will gladly have Miller back and put one of those rookies on the practice squad if he accepts a fair deal. Maybe if he wasn’t coming off concussions and ran a bit faster, the Al would’ve overpaid.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
its the bizz but we are not a cheap team he was going to get paid
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
Ford had a few long catches last year, schillens didn’t get a chance cause of injury but I think he has the speed and eye hand coordination to catch the long ball. Just hope DHB can break out this year he has all the tools just needs to stop being nerveous I think he is putting to much pressure on his self, dude just needs some confidence!
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Agreed…he needs to learn how to get better separation from the Db’s too.. seems like he runs about 20 go routes per game. Never see double moves, etc. His games against Seattle and STL were nice – wish he could be consistent with that.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:33 am
I’m in IT contracting (big whoop) if some other company wants to pay for me a nice dinner and a hotel room, I treat it like a vacation, then do what I want. Let him enjoy the attention, then let him come back.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:33 am
Sign Miller AND Boss
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:34 am
big oak boy Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
DHB might be in the doghouse
why do u say this
well TJ is sittin out cause he was hurt in practice, bruce campbell icing his knee, chekwa’s shoulder popped out Ford in a cast yet DHB looking perfectly healhty not favoring anything on the sideline… just sayin
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:35 am
Offbase hahahahaha a tight end and two rbs do not equal a 3 headed monster u dimwitted moron
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 am
if there is a pig headed man out there its Davis about not letting Miller go to Seattle b/c of Cable
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He certainly let Gallery go to Seattle.
3 million, take it or leave it.
I’m curious to hear what Al is offering. I wonder if it is even the 3 million he offered Gallery.
That was the funnist shhh of the offseason, imo. And then giving that same 3 million to Loper? Al is hilarious!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:37 am
646.
I was wondering the samething the other day. Maybe they are just avoiding him getting hurt if they are considering letting him go. Or if he is part of a trade Al is working on.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:37 am
I know Bo will apppreciate this SOS Band that i been playin at the desk….”After all that we’ve been thru……time will never change the wayI feel about yooooouuuuuu”
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
bcz24 Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:33 am
Sign Miller AND Boss
too much money unless we can get them both for 7 mil this season (combined)cuz we still have needs elsewhere
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
CODE BLACK 2011!….OUTRO
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 am
i been playin at the desk
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unplug from the Matrix!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
Bring back doug jolley!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 am
Inonewordraider Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
DHB might be in the doghouse
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Didn’t want to re-negotiate his contract so we could be under cap!
Al told Hue…sit him..he dont need bonuses, we’ll try to trade him for a 7th RD pick before trade deadline!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:41 am
Bring back Don Manoukian!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
Bring back doug jolley!
he was pretty consistant
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
j hill
he let gallery go because rg let it be known he did not like cable getting fired and very outspoken about.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
Ahhh what the hell, what is one more overpaid player? Sign Miller already. Give him $25 million guaranteed. fk it. Already overpaying Seymour, Routt, Wimbley, etc etc etc…..give Zach his payday too.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
I love Rob Ryan but damn…when has any of his defenses kicked anyone’s ass for more than 2 games a year? Fuk
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/6826389/dallas-cowboys-rob-ryan-takes-shot-all-hype-philadelphia-eagles
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
Why would we punish dhb by not letting him practice, he needs all the reps he can get. What they need to do is restructure his contract plain and simple.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 am
If DHB is in the doghouse the only possible reason would be that he sucks a$$ and has disappointed everybody in the org especially AL.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
I think it’s rare that a player won’t restructure their contract. It’s been pointed out that doing so always works to the players advantage as they get a lumo sum check now.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 am
lol @ restructure his contract as if he is getting paid big $$$$$$.
How about we cut him or pay him and put his a$$ on the field and play 10 on 11 ?
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 am
bush DHB and a 7th for osi then sign ricky willams m.floyd and k boss ricky is ten lbs lighter and way faster than bush and is very physical
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 am
let it be known he did not like cable getting fired and very outspoken about.
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You’re confusing him with Shane Lechler, who is still on the team.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 am
665.
There would be shortage of weed in Oakland if Ricky went there.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 am
Greg Papa via Vittorio Tafur: “Davis didn’t just give Wimbley $29 million to lose Zach Miller to Tom Cable”.
I agree with Greg, the deal with Wimbley was made (and Wimbley was overpaid a bit to get it done in a timely fashion) specifically in order to free up space to make a deal with Zach.
Probably get strung out until Wednesday anyway, but I like Papa I see Miller coming back.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 am
Just heard that Ryan Matthews failed his conditioning test, then passed it, rana play and had to sit out due to soreness….and then one dude in SD tweeted that Matthews is fat due to the awesome fish tacos that they have there….HAHAHA!
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 am
j hill
i know shane was pissed as well along with gallery
lechler’s dont come along that often
gallery is a dime a dozen
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
big oak boy Says:
bush DHB and a 7th for osi then sign ricky willams m.floyd and k boss ricky is ten lbs lighter and way faster than bush and is very physical
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= crazy OSI want 7 mil the next 2 years
Williams is 39 years old, Bush is 27
Floyd not bad but only played in 11 games due to injury – not a #1 receiver
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 am
665.
There would be shortage of weed in Oakland if Ricky went there.
never this is oaksterdam he will love to play at the coliseum weed always in the air
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Big Oak Boy Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 am
bush DHB and a 7th for osi then sign ricky willams m.floyd and k boss ricky is ten lbs lighter and way faster than bush and is very physical
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Ricky is pushin 40… might as well sign Tiki!
Tyrone Wheatly?
Charlie Garner?
Lamont Jordan?
Zack Crockett?
Justin Fargas?
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
plus who would want DHB but Al? ha
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
gallery is a dime a dozen
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Thus the LOL by the Raiders at his 8 million a year demand. Countered with a fair 3 million a year, which still too much for his BUST arsse.
Pass catching TEs are also a dime a dozen. Don’t believe me? Ask Zach Miller, and the rest of these FA pass catching TE, agents what kinda offers the are NOT getting.
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 am
Naw jhill im ICON….before he woke up when i go into the office lol
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
J Hill Says:
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Thus the LOL by the Raiders at his 8 million a year demand. Countered with a fair 3 million a year, which still too much for his BUST arsse.
Pass catching TEs are also a dime a dozen. Don’t believe me? Ask Zach Miller, and the rest of these FA pass catching TE, agents what kinda offers the are NOT getting.
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Agreed. Just like fantasy football. There is Gates and Witten ahead of the pack and everyone else is damn near equal. As long as they have good hands and can find the open spaces in coverage, it’s up to how the OC uses them — and you know the Raiders love to dump off to the TE, DMAC, and Marcell. Any pass-catching TE would be successful in our system — in my opinion.
August 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Weed fa sho in oakland!
August 2nd, 2011 at 11:07 am
LA to TheBay Says:
Gonna go lick my wounds. Dakota much better at this than I am.
Actually you are better because Dak has cried wolf too often
When I read “Kameron has been injured” I automaticly looked up to see if he had written it. When I saw your name my heart sunk.
Good job last night with B. I was glad to see you two shake hands after the “fight”
The Raider way!!
Best year ever!!
August 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 am
St. Louis Raider Says:
August 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
Just hope DHB can break out this year he has all the tools just needs …
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Agreed…he needs to learn how to get better separation from the Db’s too.. seems like he runs about 20 go routes per game. Never see double moves, etc. His games against Seattle and STL were nice – wish he could be consistent with that.
***
I remember watching James Jett’s “progression” as he learned to be slightly more than a one trick pony. After spending his first few seasons running almost exclusively go routes to stretch the defense, he actually learned how to run a nice 12-15 yard out pattern. Since the D didn’t want to waste a S on double coverage for a decoy, the CB had to play 10 yards off Jett to handle his speed. Once he learned how to pull up underneath the cushion, he was pretty much an automatic first down on that out pattern multiple times per game.
And not coincidentally, it was the season that he added that out to his repertoire that he had his best overall year, including several bombs for TDs. By showing that he could make those medium depth plays, the CBs had to decrease the cushion, giving him the edge to beat them deep.
Not that James Jett was ever a super star, but in his best seasons he was an effective #2, that gave Tim Brown more freedom to work his underneath possession game. He also had some bums at QB during that era (George, Hollas, Wade Wilson), although at least George could throw the deep ball well. Still, imagine what that two threat mid or deep mix could add with a better QB that could make the reads and audibles, drill the timed out, and throw a good deep ball for him to run under. Lastly, Brown and Jett were the only real receiving threats during that era (97-98), with Rickey “I make DHB hands look good” Dudley at TE and no 3rd WR worth mentioning.
If DHB can follow Jett’s pattern at a minimum, and master at least one other route to compliment his go routes, good things will happen. Assuming (hoping?) that Z Miller comes back and Schilens can stay healthy, very good things can happen. Granted, Schilens is no Tim Brown, but he is a solid possession WR. Z Miller and DMac are orders of magnitude better receivers at their positions than what Jett played with, and Campbell is at least solid in his ability to read, audible and make the mid to deep throws with decent accuracy.
Call me Silver glasses wearing, but I think this is the year DHB turns the corner and becomes a legit threat. Enough so that we’ll want to see him on the field most downs as the #2. And don’t forget, if he is justified to be anything more than a decoy on the field, then the team benefits from his superior downfield blocking skills that can eliminate a safety and turn 8 yard DMac scampers into long breakaway runs once or twice a game. That ability is just as effective as connecting on a deep pass.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
McFADDEN ISN’T DOING ANYTHING FOR THE RAIDERS HE JUST ASKED TO BE TRADED.DOESN’T WANT TO PLAY FOR HUE!!!
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