Raiders training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011 at 7:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders head coach Hue Jackson wasn’t all smiles after practice Wednesday. There weren’t any “wows” about the tempo, the physical nature of practice or players competing as hard as they can.
No, this was the side of Jackson that the players don’t want to see. And he let them know in no uncertain terms that the way they performed at practice, especially in the latter part, won’t be tolerated.
“That wasn’t a Raider practice,” Jackson said. “I told them that. One thing I am going to always do is be very honest with my team. I took the pads off and all of a sudden we decided we wanted to take some plays down. But that’s OK. You’re going to have some of those days. That’s part of the process. They had a day off, and all of a sudden (their) bodies try to get back. They’re re-adjusting to all of this.”
*Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey practiced for the first time since training camp opened a week ago. It’s still a mystery as to why he missed the first five practices, with Heyward-Bey and Jackson evasive about the subject.
Heyward-Bey caught balls early on in practice and looked capable of doing everything that his fellow receivers were asked to do. Ultimately, Heyward-Bey sat out the latter part of practice.
Jackson said it’s part of easing him into the mix and being fearful of losing Heyward-Bey for an extended period of time. It’s the same approach Jackson is using with all his players.
That list is growing by the day. Receiver Louis Murphy, guard Cooper Carlisle, fullback James McCluskey, offensive linemen Alan Pelc and Lou (formerly Elias) Eliades joined guard Bruce Campbell, receivers Jacoby Ford and Edward McGee, cornerbacks Joe Porter and Chimdi Chekwa and running back Taiwan Jones on the sideline.
At one point, Jackson ordered his players to take off their pads as a means of ensuring that more players wouldn’t get hurt.
“We’ve got some nicks here and there, and we’re down at some positions now,” Jackson said. “We only had five linebackers. What you do is everything you can do to make sure your team finishes practice. I didn’t want all of the banging at that time, so let’s take them off and continue to get the process that we’re in. The intensity needs to be higher when we do it.”
*Fox Sports’ Adam Caplan reported that the Raiders were prepared to pay former Raiders offensive tackle Mario Henderson $1.7 million. That went out the window when Henderson failed his physical. The Raiders turned around and gave that money to veteran offensive tackle Stephon Heyer, Caplan said.
*NFL Films is missing the boat if it fails to mike up Jackson during training camp or a game.
After running back Darren McFadden stonewalled linebacker Quentin Groves during a pass-protection drill, Jackson launched into one of his classic rants in which he pumps up one side of the ball and challenges the other to meet the challenge.
“Give me some,” Jackson said to McFadden after the sequence ended. “That’s how you hit them. You want some of that (Kamerion) Wimbley?”
On it went, with Jackson goading the defenders into meeting McFadden’s intensity.
*Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell knows a good thing when he sees one. Hence, he never let tight end Zach Miller out of his sights for very long and oftentimes looked for him whenever a play broke down or the pressure got too intense last season.
Miller’s a now member of the Seattle Seahawks, and Campbell is without a security blanket until he finds someone to take Miller’s place.
“It’s a big part of our offense,” Campbell said of Miller. “He was a big target. You don’t ever just replace guys like that. You just have to throw in the young guys that we have, give them an opportunity to get better each and every day in practice. Things take time. We’ve just got to keep pushing forward, but definitely losing him was a tough loss for this team. Congratulations to him. It’s a big signing and we have to move forward.”
Just before Campbell spoke, free agent tight end David Boss worked out on the field after practice. Campbell knows full well what Boss is capable of, having seen him twice a year when they played against each other in the NFC East from 2007-09.
“He’s a big target,” Campbell said of Boss, a member of the New York Giants the past four seasons. “He’s a big guy. But it all comes down to the coaches decision and if they feel like he fits our offense and the things that we do from that standpoint. He’s a guy, he’s big, he can run, and he’s played in tough games before, so ultimately it will probably come down to how they feel with the guys that we have here and how he fits into our offense.”
*Rookie receiver Denarius Moore is fitting in quite well in the early going. The 6-feet, 195-pounder out of Tennessee put on a clinic during practice Wednesday, with much of his damage coming against No. 1 cornerback Stanford Routt.
“Wow! You guys know I like using that term, wow,” Jackson said. “He’s a tremendous young player. He’s very talented. That young man played at Tennessee and everything he did at Tennessee he’s doing out here on our field. And when you look around, every time you look up, there’s number 17 making a play.
“And I talked to our guys, this game is about performance, and (Moore) comes out every day and he performs. The guys that are able to stay healthy and compete each and every day as well as our guys have, they’re going to have chance to play on this football team.”
Moore fought through tight coverage by Routt on a deep pattern, regained his balance and hauled in a long pass from Campbell that was right on the mark.
A few plays later, Moore cut in toward the middle of the field and snared a laser from Campbell, with Routt trailing the play. He added a short reception later in practice.
Routt shut down Moore on another deep pass, running stride for stride with Moore the entire route.
“Denarius Moore is like another Jacoby,” Campbell said. “He’s like one of those those guys that you pick up late in the draft, and you wonder, ‘How did this guy fall?’ He’s so talented, he’s so athletic. When you see Jacoby, it’s kind of like you have to do a double-glimpse, make sure it’s him or 17.
“The guy’s playing hard. He runs hard in practice, he has that factor, some things you just can’t coach, he has about him. He’s a guy that can add a lot to our offense this year and what we do.”
Moore said he is just doing what the coaches ask of him and trying to make a favorable impression whenever he gets an opportunity.
“I feel like I’m starting to get the groove of things, starting to get the plays down play by play, day by day,” Moore said.
Moore is the only collegiate player who posted two 200-yard receiving games last year, when he starred for Tennessee. It’s that kind of playmaking the Raiders are looking for from their receivers.
Playing in the Southeastern Conference helped prepare Moore for the transition to the NFL, he said.
“As far as SEC, they like to press, a whole bunch of quick corners and quick jams,” Moore said. “As soon as I get here, it’s the same thing. Once I get down with my time with the reps I should just fit right in.”
Jackson credited Moore and Campbell more for being in synch than he faulted Routt for getting beat.
“Well, there’s a lot of things coming at Stanford, too,” Jackson said. “We’re not just sitting there lining up saying, ‘Here, cover us.’ We’re moving around a little bit, we’re making it tough on those guys. But, yeah, I want Stanford competing. I didn’t see anything in that, that I go, ‘Oh, my Gosh, you know, Stanford’s not getting it done.’ I see rhythm and timing of our offense, the quarterback throwing the ball on time in a rhythm and a guy making a play.”
“He has a chance to come play center,” Jackson said of Satele. “This game is about competition and competing and performance. I know everyone said I’ve handed the job to Stefen but, at that time, Stefen was the only center other than (Alex) Parsons on our team.
“So, Sammy’s back, and he’ll get a chance to go in there and line up and play and show what he’s got. He’s a veteran player carrying a lot of games. But, obviously, I’m very happy with Wisniewski. He’s doing an excellent job and, again, that’s going to be fun to see because we’re going to raise the level of play of this whole football team.”
Satele said he received offers from other teams but instructed his agent to get something worked out with the Raiders, if at all possible.
Satele worked at guard during his first NFL training camp, when he was a member of the Miami Dolphins. He wound up at center his rookie season and has played there almost exclusively during his four NFL seasons.
“I’ve got to battle this kid, a second-rounder, and he looks good out there,” Satele said. “My focus is not starting the preseason, but I want to start that Sept. 12 game at Denver and keep it all the way through the season. So, my focus is on beating him out any which way. And if I’m the man, I’m the man. And if he’s the man, he’s the man. Whoever doesn’t win the job, he’ll be the sixth man.”
*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.
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August 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
1st again!
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
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August 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.
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Brilliant, or as another poster pithily quipped: “Al is as Al does.”
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Clearly, what JC needs is “a really big target.”
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Raiders need to be careful here:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/790243-kevin-boss-rumors-latest-on-boss-to-oakland-raiders-and-new-york-giants
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Kick a$$ HueJack!!
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
JC is always going to play the nice guy roll. Pre-season game number one. we’ll see who’s the real deal
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
how hard did McClain Hit Taiwan Jones????, that def not a knick anymore
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I’m not warming up to the “Code Black” nonsense.
AL IS AS AL DOES 2011
Who wants to chip in for a billboard?
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
All this talk about the salary cap, do you remember any player that Al wanted and that got away because Al couldn’t afford him. There is speculation about Miller, but if Al wanted to keep him he could have agreed to a deal like Huff did and just wait to sign it. Al didn’t make that offer that Miller wanted and he left. I honestly don’t remember a player that left Oakland without a contract that Al wishes he could have given more money to, to stay!
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
If you like, I believe there is a feline themed team in your state
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Or,
NO BLACK OUTS 2011
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Steve, excellent ending point about the 2007 draft class…
All too often, hell, all the time (who am I kidding?) the RAIDERS draft is a joke. We pick up maybe one sure bet a decade (Charles Woodson) and far too many Russells or Dudleys. To be fair, one could say that about many NFL teams. To be specific on the RAIDERS though, our drafts haven’t been very helpful, with maybe the 2010 draft class as the exception.
Oh well, that is what we must deal with in order to be a RAIDERS fan…
Silver & Black Forever…
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:04 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
There is also one in a city where the river caught on fire
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Two words Hue: BED CHECK!!! A bunch of your players were up past one last night!!!
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
messed up
NFLonTheHillJoe Browne
by JasonLaCanfora
Good Guy ex- NFL QB Joey Harrington released fr Oregon hospital Wed after being hit by SUV while riding his bike last Sun.
7 minutes ago
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Bleacher report? Really? Really folks?
Boss sounds like they wanna kick the tires and sign
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Mr. Plunk your powers of acuity truly are breathtaking.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:10 pm
So we signed Boss. Very nice. Helps ease the pain a little.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:10 pm
lol… just sayin..
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Sorry I saw an article titled “Kevin Boss Lands in Oakland”….guess we have not signed him yet.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Fellow loyalists, get behind the movement:
NO BLACK OUTS 2011
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Raiders head coach Hue Jackson wasn’t all smiles after practice Wednesday. There weren’t any “wows” about the tempo, the physical nature of practice or players competing as hard as they can.
No, this was the side of Jackson that the players don’t want to see. And he let them know in no uncertain terms that the way they performed at practice, especially in the latter part, won’t be tolerated.
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In other words, they showed up lazy and goofy, and just because some of them are over paid is not an excuse to mail it in. Stop the disgruntleness just because miller and aso are gone, Not a good sign.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
NO BLACK OUTS 2011
A worthy goal.. I plan to do my part.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Just sign boss and call it a day. You all know full well how much the Raiders are in love with their own WR’s and would never go after Malcolm Floyd.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
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Kell, is this how Davis makes you feel? Like you just took one?
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:25 pm
They better sign him now before Giants open up their wallets.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Lokk at the enjoyment on that mthrfkrs’ face. Priceless.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
lol… Smile!
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
by PGutierrezCSN
For Kevin Boss to replace Zach Miller in Oakland, the Raiders will have to clear enough cap room to outbid the Giants. A challenge.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Boss is good as signed. In my view it’s better to have a player without a concussion history. ZMiller was a good TE but certainly wasn’t a GREAT TE. He never seemed to recover totally after that last injury. Plus, he has had a number of concussions which is NOT a good thing. AD knew what he was doing. Boss will bridge the ZMiller void quickly.
Michael Bush – sign the damn tender and get to practice.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Al was not prepared for the new CBA…
He has the Raiders Cap Strapped and unable to make major moves.
Don’t be fooled by all the mediocre talent that has signed.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
JB Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Boss is good as signed.
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???? John Clayton reporting the opposite.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I’d also like them to pick up Kirk Morrison up on the cheap. He’d be an excellent fit at WLB. He’s excellent in coverage too.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Night Raider fans.. Hey Ohio, just clownin ya, and I’ll freely admit my vision is forever clouded by a veil of Silver and Black. I’ve cursed the Old Man up and down at times and actually signed the biilboard petition. Nevertheless, Al Davis is the Oakland Raiders, and if we can’t accept that, maybe we should root for another team. For me, its my beloved Oakland Raiders.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Thought I’d check in to see how you blog losers are doing. And to see if Krappy took another slow wet one in his bermuda shorts.
Pretty sure none of you are getting down with 2 jamaican strippers in a hot tub full of Zima. Talk about a carbonated weiner.
If any of you zeros see Albert Bigelo Puss the Turd or Brian the Genital, let them know I’m ready to administer their daily beat downs.
Gotta get back to these drunk strippers, thankfully I’ve got a Magnum packed safely into my headband.
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August 3rd, 2011 at 8:35 pm
wasbanned Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
JB Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Boss is good as signed.
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???? John Clayton reporting the opposite.
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AD is a master of managing the CAP. NOBODY beats AD at offering $’s when it’s somebody he wants. If AD wants him, he’ll be ours. Just my opinion.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
http://blog.bt-store.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bulls.jpg
Kell, if you said your are the man and Al Davis is the bull, I would totally understand. Its all good. I’ve felt that way about a few things Al has done too, but lets not forget Al is just being Al.
Al is who he is.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Sounds like Chaz, Moore, and Ford are top three.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Big contract for Huff….glad to see our salary cap problems will extend into future years.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
JB Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:35 pm
AD is a master of managing the CAP. NOBODY beats AD at offering $’s when it’s somebody he wants. If AD wants him, he’ll be ours. Just my opinion.
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That’s all well and good but in a short offseason it won’t work here. In case you didn’t know we’re STILL over the cap and have less than a day to get under and still manage to sign Boss on top of that.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Anybody got a link on articles as to who has done the most since the lockout was over and who has done the least. Would be curious to see where we stand on that. Not that it matters, just like to see whos makin noise and who aint.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Raiderfankirk, I was getting the same notion that Mr. Schilens, Mr. Ford, and Mr. Moore #1, #2, #3 in that order- Mr. Heyward-Bey & Mr. Murphy will be dueling it out for the 4th spot. Loser battling Mr. Miller for the final roster spot (Icould see Nick being retained on the practice squad). All others will really have to prove themselves.
should the Raiders pick up a vet WR such as Floyd or Edwards one of those two just might be out
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Compensatory picks (calculated guess work):
first compensatory pick at the end of the 3rd round for Nnamdi
a pick in the 4th for Miller
a pick in the 5th for Gallery
if I recall correctly a team is limited to 3 compensatory picks
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
at least six out of 8 draftees make the 53 man roster
Locks: Wisniewski, Van Dyke, Barksdale
more than likely: Moore, Jones, Chekwa
at least one will: Ausberry, Gordon
we know there are at least 8 spots from last season’s roster to be filled:
CB Nnamdi
TE Zach
OG Robert G.
QB Bruce G.
LB Thomas H.
OT Langston W.
OT Mario H.
WR Johnnie H.
I could see Thomas doing for the Bengals what Wimbley is doing for us.
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Murphy ford moore chaz dhb
August 3rd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Masterbater #2 how’s fantasy world with the vibrater 7500,8000,85000… what ever it is this time? Got the batteries chargedup?
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Had to look back and see who wrote the column…. good work Steve!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Someone posted early Murphy reminds them of Ronald Curry and I’m seeing the comparison. Makes the great catch but drops the give me.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
checked out the NYG blogs couple guys in there saying Boss isn’t a good blocker, one guy says Crumpler a better blocker and some guy says he’s an injury away from being done…
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Inoneword sounds like us. LMFAO
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Dang, Hali got a 5 year 60 million dollar deal
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:08 pm
This is the reason DHB’s days might be numbered. At the very least they are holding him out to get his attention and light a fire under his a$$.
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“Wow! You guys know I like using that term, wow,” Jackson said. “He’s a tremendous young player. He’s very talented. That young man played at Tennessee and everything he did at Tennessee he’s doing out here on our field. And when you look around, every time you look up, there’s number 17 making a play”
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:11 pm
51.raiderfankirk Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Inoneword sounds like us. LMFAO
HA HA from what I’ve seen the guys a solid receiver and you can’t teach 6′6
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Right on, just saying it sounds like the Guy’s in her talking about Miller. That’s what’s funny.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 pm
At first I thought they were holding DHB out cause he was redoing his contract secretly and couldn’t practice until Thurs. But they blew that theory up today
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I’m on the Boss upgrade buss.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
That sucks in a way. Not so sure I wouldn’t rather keep Nick Miller over DHB.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Sign Boss. Chaz will actually start this season. I can feel it.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Nick can catch and no better nick name than little Nicky.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Chaz the man! “”!!!!!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Nick the quick might hold on to a spot since JLH left.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:22 pm
That list is growing by the day. Receiver Louis Murphy, guard Cooper Carlisle, fullback James McCluskey, offensive linemen Alan Pelc and Lou (formerly Elias) Eliades joined guard Bruce Campbell, receivers Jacoby Ford and Edward McGee, cornerbacks Joe Porter and Chimdi Chekwa and running back Taiwan Jones on the sideline.
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Not good
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:23 pm
*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.
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Dang it Coach, we gotta do better than that if you want me to keep goin to bat for ya.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Chaz has to prove he can take a hit before he can start
Murphy ford moore chaz dhb
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Raiderfandork, you’ve never partied serious in your life. And no, going to Applebees with the Glee Club doesn’t count.
Another ferocious diss, courtesy of your friendly neighborhood Beeecham.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Chaz!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Good night Raider fans. F*ck the haters #1 and #2. You know who you are LMFAO posers.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Chaz? Really? Really?
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Just stand with who we’ve got. Ausberry crunch
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:29 pm
*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.
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Also known as the “Lane Kiffin” draft. hmmmm…. not good regarding Bush.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:29 pm
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August 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Sorry can’t help myself. #2 Masterbater ….dorks, blog nerds, loosers. Those guys are the ones making up shzt cause they can’t surpress their homoerotic fantasies.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Raiderfandweeb, your desperation to be considered cool on the blog is obvious. Maybe if you got a hobby – like changing your girfriend’s diapers – you wouldn’t beg nerds on a blog for attention.
Don’t bother with a comeback, little dude. We all know you don’t have one.
HOLLA BACK KOOL MOE DEE
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Night fans and homo. Yes Chaz ….really. no fa WR. We got em.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:37 pm
So now the Raiders are in another bidding war. Luckily Al doesn’t have to be under the cap until Friday at 4pm. It’ll be interesting to see how much the Giants really want to keep Boss.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Oh ya cool …and I talk to myself …charged up ..LMFAO. who’s the looser oh king fantasy blog beeeeeach?
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Oh yeah Raiderfantool – I own you.
Now continue with that meltdown you just started. Trust me, I always enjoy the free entertainment!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Chaz! REALLY!! Believe it!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Luis Murphy will be our number one and have 80+ catches, OVER 800 YARDS, AND MORE THAN 8 TDS…PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT LOL
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
After stomping yet another blog goober – although, slapping around raidefangeek is about as easy as it gets – I always reward myself with a nice tall marg from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and some Bryan Adams.
TIP ONE BACK WIZZLE!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Louis*
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Think we’ll be all right even if we don’t take Boss
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Did you order the code black?
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
People don’t realize our offense stretches the field with the best of ‘em. A TE in our system is gonna have space to operate. Think Antonio in SD.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
You have to be quite terrible to have over 80 catches and only 800+ yards. So, yeah, maybe.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
8raider
Did you just compare our passing game to the Chargers?? Lol, call it a night bro.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
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August 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Oh you got me ….bet your really from W Virginia. Partydude 8000( vibrator 100) girls ( leave your sister’s out of this. Cruze cow pond in the haller )
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
I wonder how much of a “competition” it will really be between Wiz and Satele.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Feel pretty good about having Denarrius in my mock drafts this whole off-season.
A football player, not a combine freak. A novel concept for Mr. Davis.
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Raiderfandweeb, I thought you were leaving to change your girlfriend’s soiled Pampers?
No, rather get owned over and over again by your master, Beeecam? You know it’s a privilege to be one of my minions, but if you keep up the begging and groveling you have a chance.
Man, this marg just gets tastier and tastier!
CUTS LIKE A KNIFE BUT IT FEELS SO RIGHT (aka AWESOME)
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
If Satele, Carlisle and Huff start in Denver, there will be a lot of people who spent the entire offseason trashing that trio, who are going to have pull their skirt up and suck up their ego and go Raiders!!!
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Gotta bounce, brohams. Got my buzz going and am energized after slapping Raiderfangeek into submission.
Poor little fella is probably melting down in the bathtub right now. Mr. Bubble ain’t gonna save him tonight.
Word up to the nizzle fizzle mc dizzles!
BEEECHAM OUT
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Alex,
I made a COMPARISON. I know that word is a little big for people on this blog, but hey, whatcha gonna do? Seriously, you totally twisted my words.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
5 or 6 practices and some of you have everything figured out.You should clue in the coaches because I seriously doubt they’ve made all the decisions already.
Priest,it sounds as if you’ve been absolutely correct about Ausberry.Hope he can pick up the blocking aspect of the position really fast.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
It is a little disconcerting that so many players are getting injured in practice. Save some players for the games, Hue.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Lots of teams lose players in practice. None of the injuries seem too severe thus far. After an extended break, these guys need to get toughened up quickly. Considering how soft this Raiders team has been in the past, it’s kind of refreshing seeing these guys get hit hard.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:06 pm
JFB,have anyone in particular in mind.LOL
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Hillarious interview with Cable. First he says we cant replace a Big Target like like Zach Miller and then says Kevin Boss is a Big Target. Would love to get Boss. A really good Blocker. Considering the WRs in the Giant offense compared to our no wonder Boss stats are not as good as ZM. Boss is a better blocker and that’s what we desperately need.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Great news about Denarius. His highlight tape was sick. Glad to hear he is puting it together. Our best 2 WRs maybe two of the smallest Denarius and Ford.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 pm
YA,i agree.I heard Ray Lewis saying you have to push yourself until you feel like your lungs are going to pop and your heart is going to explode.You then let everything get back to normal and then you push yourself to the limit again.Each time you go a little further.That is what HJ is doing and ‘little nicks’ will help toughen them up.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Whoa! No kiddin, just found #2 partydude 8000.1
http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/d/c/collegehumor.26214cbd3f7e18c6e200c61c53fb847e.jpg
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:14 pm
What the PARTYDUDE 8000 ‘really’ feels like.
http://blog.bt-store.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bulls.jpg
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Sad news freiends. If Dumervil is back and Von Miller is NFL ready, the addition of one Broderick Bunkley ala the Eagles via the Browns our Offensive line is in big big trouble.
KC’s top 5 draft picks are finally beginning to mature and their secondary is under rated and manned by one fo the best Safties to come out of College in a long time.
We’ve got our work cut out for us but we’re bigger, we’re faster and by gawd we’re meaner…
This team has talent. Cut it loose.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Heard this evening that Braylon I’ll have another Edwards will probably be signed by the whiners .Good,let him drop passes over there before he gets another DUI.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
The Seattle Seahawks, a team with a dire need for a solid right end to pair with Chris Clemons, is apparently mulling over offering TE John Carlson along with draft picks to pry Osi Umenyiora away from the Giants.
Carlson has become expendable with the signing of Zach Miller, and the team would probably like to clear him out of the way to make Miller the clear No. 1 option at the position.
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Wouldnt it be nice if Seattle drove the price down for us?????
Al saying “Love it when a plan comes together”
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Montrrll Fultcher could block too!
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:23 pm
sounds like hue is backpedaling a bit on wiz being the starter. probably has looked like a rook in practice. satele gets pushed off the ball by strong DT’s. but he’s young and has a lot of starts so maybe he’ll improve. looks like they’re wanting to create competition on the O-line and see who gets it done.
i wouldn’t get too high on moore just yet. he’s a rookie receiver and those guys don’t do much usually.
i’m thinking they are waiting to see if someone will sign bush, and take the draft picks, but nobody is giving up a 1st and 3rd for him.
i would like boss, but i don’t think our season depends on it.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:27 pm
CODE BLACK. 2011
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
since yesterday, mario henderson is no longer listed on the raiders homepage roster under “unrestricted free agents”.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Bully Building = Bloodest Show on Turf
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:31 pm
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Seven teams are over cap and will have to be under by Friday: STL $100K: ATL $1 MIL: DAL $3 M; DET $8 M; HST $8.5 M; PIT $11M; OAK $12M.
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$12M over the cap? How did Al let this happen?
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Hillarious interview with Cambell. First he says we cant replace a Big Target like like Zach Miller and then says Kevin Boss is a Big Target. Would love to get Boss. A really good Blocker. Considering the WRs in the Giant offense compared to our no wonder Boss stats are not as good as ZM. Boss is a better blocker and that’s what we desperately need.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Where is Roland Wolliams?
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
The Seattle Seahawks, a team with a dire need for a solid right end to pair with Chris Clemons, is apparently mulling over offering TE John Carlson along with draft picks to pry Osi Umenyiora away from the Giants.
Carlson has become expendable with the signing of Zach Miller, and the team would probably like to clear him out of the way to make Miller the clear No. 1 option at the position.
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Wouldnt it be nice if Seattle drove the price down for us?????
Al saying “Love it when a plan comes together”
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Brilliant.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:39 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
For Kevin Boss to replace Zach Miller in Oakland, the Raiders will have to clear enough cap room to outbid the Giants. A challenge.
2 hours ago
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How were we going to sign Zach Miller if we cant afford Kevin Boss?? Dont think the Raiders would be waistin their time if this wasnt a real option.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
If Satele, Carlisle and Huff start in Denver, there will be a lot of people who spent the entire offseason trashing that trio, who are going to have pull their skirt up and suck up their ego and go Raiders!!!
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Carlisle was quietly rather good last year. Most good linemen are pretty quiet. You tend to here more about either the spectacular ones or the terrible ones (Bob Gallery’s name being mentioned about a dozen times v. SD a few years back comes to mind).
He’s got a ton of experience in different systems and he and Satele played well, in particular the run and screen game.
Good that we brought Satele back. At the very least a quality backup. Someone to push the rookie.
These two guys, Carlisle in particular, have just managed to stick around. Adding Smiley to the mix gets another guy with a lot of experience and I think a good pick up on the cheap that may pay off in the long term.
Huff is also quietly solid. He’s evolving at that CF position and has gotten better each of the last two years. You’d like to see him as a Darren Sharper but more athletic and I think he can become that.
I’ve given Huff his fair share of criticism for missing tackles and being soft but he made some huge plays last year.
To me, that sack of Rivers in Oakland last year will be added to my own personal mental highlight reel of great Raider plays and add to the lore. Huff makes a great swipe at the ball at the last possible second, it’s fumbled, nearly RECOVERED by the Chargers, only to have CJ knock that dude out and then it’s scooped up neatly by Branch to the House.
All that being said, Zach Miller was an enormous asset on the team and his sure hands are stroking Cable’s little ego somewhere in Seattle now.
We need a replacement. If we can get this cap thing figured out (and I mean, we usually do — seems like its hurt us more this year), Boss would be basically 1A to ZM. Little better blocker apparently, hands not quite as good — some nagging injuries here and there.
If all else fails, this Ausberry kid’s gonna have a lot on his shoulders and I hope he’s as good as he’s being talked up. Moore too.
We’ll have to lean on those guys and better coaching this year will have us getting as production as possible.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
97.Kirk Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
It is a little disconcerting that so many players are getting injured in practice. Save some players for the games, Hue.
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It is but kind of expected
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I dont see them bring him all the way here if they didnt have the money. Al ahs to have some cards up his sleve.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Yeah, our division’s reloaded.
KC is serious. The new managaement has been hard at work.
LeRon McClain is good move for them..
Denver is still kind of iffy. They’ve msde some moves too. Fox will have that DL up to snuff but I think we’ve still got the edge on them.
SD I think has been on a downward slide. They don’t have a killer instinct down there.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
They didnt have time to work into contact. So I dont think it’s odd.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 pm
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Seven teams are over cap and will have to be under by Friday: STL $100K: ATL $1 MIL: DAL $3 M; DET $8 M; HST $8.5 M; PIT $11M; OAK $12M.
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How will Al get under the cap?
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:47 pm
How will Al get under the cap?
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The same way all the other teams will, I’m guessing.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:48 pm
getting as much production as possible*
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Kirk Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
It is a little disconcerting that so many players are getting injured in practice. Save some players for the games, Hue.
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I totally agree. However, I do appreciate the fact that players must put in earnest effort during practice.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Al amy have already re worked some deals and is already under the cap. Who knows. Or a few guys might be packing there bags.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 pm
There’s gonna be some serious number crunching in Alameda next 12 hours or so.
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear a big cut.
We know the guys who recently signed contracts are safe. Kelly is a candidate to restructure but he’s going to stick.
DHB probably gets one more shot.
Bush’s contract is probably not counted in that figure, either.
Yikes.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Eugene and Bennett could possibly be cut.
Kelly is a prime candidate to have his contract restructured, as well as CJ and Carlisle.
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Dont know how current this is.
Player Position 2011 Salary 2011 Salary Cap #
Richard Seymour DT $15,000,000 $0
Kamerion Wimbley LB $11,312,000 $0
Stanford Routt CB $10,000,000 $0
Darren McFadden RB $7,055,000 $0
Tommy Kelly DE $5,500,000 $0
Jason Campbell QB $4,500,000 $0
Shane Lechler P $4,000,000 $0
Chris Johnson CB $3,200,000 $0
Sebastian Janikowski K $2,600,000 $0
Cooper Carlisle G $2,500,000 $0
John Henderson DT $2,500,000 $0
Hiram Eugene S $2,000,000 $0
Daniel Loper T $1,900,000 $0
Jarvis Moss DE $1,250,000 $1,250,000
Kyle Boller QB $1,250,000 $0
Michael Bennett RB $890,000 $0
Rock Cartwright RB $800,000 $0
Tyvon Branch CB $555,000 $0
Quentin Groves DE $555,000 $0
Chaz Schilens WR $555,000 $0
Trevor Scott DE $555,000 $0
Nick Miller WR $480,000 $0
Mike Mitchell S $480,000 $0
Louis Murphy WR $480,000 $0
Brandon Myers TE $480,000 $0
Matt Shaughnessy DE $480,000 $0
Stevie Brown S $405,000 $0
Bruce Campbell T $405,000 $0
Jacoby Ford WR $405,000 $0
Travis Goethel LB $405,000 $0
Lamarr Houston DT $405,000 $0
Walter McFadden CB $405,000 $0
Jared Veldheer C $405,000 $0
Jeremy Ware CB $405,000 $0
Jerome Boyd CB $330,000 $0
Total $84,447,000 $1,250,000
Source: Spotrac.com $0 $0
Some players may not be listed $0 $0
August 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
@Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders notes: For cap crisis fans: Cooper Carlisle, Darren McFadden say they haven’t been asked to restructure.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
I’ve been telling you guys about Moore just how this guy fell to the 5th rnd is criminal. He’s better than 90% of the drafted Wr’s. Outside of the top 3-4 he’s in the conversation. What a steal for this team. And at the right position to.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Wouldnt it be nice of Jerry or Steve to do a post of who is making what against the cap this year? yeah? no?
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Yes sir you called it. Now team me we sweep the west again and go to the playoffs.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Sorry! Tell me we sweep the west.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Why do the Raiders get blasted for the Wimbley contact, but when KC signs Hali to a larger one it’s ok?
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Don’s Neighbor,
I think we’ll see something tomorrow as the deadline approaches (and I have no idea what time that is — either close of business or midnight, likely) from one of these guys.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Haters going to hate Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Why do the Raiders get blasted for the Wimbley contact, but when KC signs Hali to a larger one it’s ok?
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Production.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Because we are the Raiders. Go to the East coast and find 10 people who can name KC’s head coach or hate KC. Non Raider fans hate the Raider no matter where you go.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Kam’s has been lowered since signing the new deal, but otherwise that looks pretty current.
Top 6 guys should all restructure.
Maybe the extension they were afraid to give Campbell is on the way.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:08 pm
WRs are like RBs,you can’t have enough good ones.Lets hope they all keep improving because we’ll probably need all of them before the year is out.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Another day checking into see whats up. been good though. Hadnt posted on here in two years.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Non Raider fans hate the Raider no matter where you go.
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The truth.
There’s a few teams that get ridiculous amounts of hate all over the country (and of course, that is due to success — I mean who really hates the Pittsburgh Pirates, KC Royals, Phoenix Coyotes, etc.):
Top 3 that come to mind:
Lakers
Yankees
Raiders
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
You said it. The thing is I love it. Love being a Raider fan. Poeple always what to talk smack.
Funny thing is….When I met Don Manoukian I didnt know who he was and thought he was a 49ers fan giving me crap about my Raiders hat.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
A week from tomorrow is the first game.Looking forward to seeing a lot of these young guys and our reworked Oline.Practice games should be more interesting this year.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 pm
True Lefty12 when I read these guys comments about cut this guy and that guy I just think and who will replace them. It’s as if they think great players are walking the street waiting for the Raiders to sign ‘em.
I saw you ackowledge the David Ausberry thing Left I’m glad for the sake of the team he’s coming around. He is going to be quite a player for the Raiders for some time. He and Moore willl make this draft. Wait until you Moore Lefty12 this kid is extraordinary.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 pm
This Oline has very solid depth and quality starters. It’s probably the most talented line we’ve had since ‘02
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Since 02…But not as good. I’m excited to see what McFaddens got this year. He blew me away last year.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 pm
That ‘02 lie was one of the best we’ve ever had so not being as good is not a knock at all. I love the fact that Satele is back I know most don’t like him but when he’s healthy he’s a pretty good player. Everyone keeps assuming who’s going to start but this thing is far fromn over. No one knows who’s going to line up opening day.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
I don’t know why by I have a feeling our defense is gonna be nasty this year…the whole “build a bully” stuff is making me a believer…terrorizing the qbs and rbs as well as our safeties leveling wrs down the middle…or is it just me..
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Dan,I believe this line has the potential to be better than the ‘02 line if,and it is a big if,the young kids like Veldheer,Wiz,and Barksdale become the players we all hope they will become.
Priest,I am anxious to see him and Ausberry and the line.Its possible the line(starters) will have to play more and that will be a good thing,IMO.They will need the reps with so many new guys.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Also is anyone else noticing how many times Steve says that Campbell throws a deep ball right on target? I’m I the only one noticing that???
Campbell is having avery good camp and that is the single most important factor in this teams ascent to greatness. If he is doing what I think he’s doing we are going to have big fun this year fellas…
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Priest
Exactly what I was thinking!
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Lefty12 that is a great point they really need to allow this line to gel in camp. Because they need to be on point when we play the Jets Jets yets.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Lets hope he has the time to make those throws once the season starts.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:34 pm
They way Ford was running by our defense and catching deep balls tells me he and Camp put in great work this offseason and it showing. I’m extremely excited I xan’t wait to see these kids in action.
Ausberry runs with a gate that looks like he’s not moving as fast as he is. He will shock some NFL defenses when he runs right past their secondary.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Lefty2 Playaction playaction playaction, if we can run Camp will throw and if these guys have grown up man O man this is going to be big fun…
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I hope we don’t see mush of McFadden in the practice games.We sure as hell don’t want him injure and we know what he will give us.Same with Bush.Let Bennett,Cartright,and Rankin take the beatings.We will need to see what Jones can do though.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
If these guys are as fast as they say they are. He may not need to hold the ball for long.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Priest,just like every team it all boils down to the beef up front doing their jobs and doing it well.I can’t wait to see what it will look like,although I have a feeling what starts the year won’t be what it looks like midway through the season.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Dan,then JC will have to make quick reads.I’m not saying he can’t,but I don’t believe that has been one of his strong points in the past.Of course,he has been working with these guys and will be in a familiar system for his 2nd year.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 pm
lefty12 I can almost gaurantee that line will come together more as the season wears on. They’re just tooo new they have to become a cohesive unit and that takes time. But the key is the running game, I would put DMC in the top 5 backs in the league and they’re going to have to honor him if they don’t he’ll score. They have to stack the box there is no way they wont. And that leaves the deep ball open. DMC MUST STAY HEALTHY………………period
DMC is the key to Camp having a great year DMC has to slow the pass rush. He and Bush have got to start off hot if they do there is no way they can stop the pass as well NO WAY!!.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
I cant wait to see these guys this year. I think they will take huge strides on both sides of the ball. I think we have gotten rid of the big pay check guys and have guys who want to earn there money and play of the love of the game.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
DMOORE is going to make it 2 in a row for me this year…When we drafted him he was my pick for RON…
Looks like he is right on schedule…
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:48 pm
With that in ind they need to give a nice chunk of the load to Bush and I have a feeling Huejack knows this they just need to get Bush in a uni. NOW!!
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Section 5. Salaries and Salary Cap Accounting:
….(b) Proration From Preexisting Contracts. ….(i) No signing bonus proration to the League Years of this Agreement shall apply for any Preexisting Contract that was terminated, traded or assigned via waivers prior to March 11, 2011….
Claytons about ten million off atleast with our bad contracts. They have not gone back and crossed every T, and are guessing on pre-existing assumptions without knowledge of current signing bonuses.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 pm
no comma after t #
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Thec07 you’ve been money man it’s all good in teh neighborhood. When I saw the kids youtube highlights I couldn’t wait to get film on him and when I saw him I could NOT believe my eyes. The first thing I said was how in hell did we get this kid in the 5th???
That is madness!! he’s easily the most gifted route runner big play rec’r we’ve drafted since Timmy. He reminds me of Tim I’m serious they look alike and he has the same size and speed. It’s wierd how we got this kid.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
They have to stack the box there is no way they wont. And that leaves the deep ball open.
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Now it becomes pick your poison…
3 wide set would leave 2 wides 1 on 1….
JFORD on a quick slant, DMOORE on the deep, CHAZ drawing the bracket…
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Sounds like we’re looking good. Can’t wait to see us against an actual defense, though.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:55 pm
I should add Chaz to that convo Chaz is an awesome rec’r when he’s healthy. He’s capable of doing what DBowe does for KC Chaz is that damn good.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 pm
TJ,
You know whats crazy man? Look at JC’s quote
“He’s like one of those those guys that you pick up late in the draft, and you wonder, ‘How did this guy fall?’
Whats crazy is I can go back on this blog and find where you have been saying that since the draft….
DMOORE has the goods, and he is a tough kid, not a punk….I saw the game live where he took that hit against the LB milliner from bama….
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 pm
We do have the ability to be one of the most explosive offensives in the league.Our Dline=WOW.However,I’m not sold on Groves.He could be the weak link on Def. and hold the whole unit back.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Speed everywhere there is no where to hide if you can’t run your chances of covering the Raiders is null and void. We will score and sometimes it will look silly that’s the kind of speed we have. Ford’s speed is sick I don’t think we’ve ever had a guy that could run like he can.
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 pm
priest, seriously, don’t you want to see them against live bullets before you assume they’re that good?
August 4th, 2011 at 12:00 am
lefty12 Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 pm
We do have the ability to be one of the most explosive offensives in the league
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I truly beleive this….Not from a homer perspective either, i can just feel like we are finally ready to break out…Really build upon last year…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Our rookie TE runs a 4.4 40 LOL try covering that it’s insane. DMC runs a 4.3 there is no way to handle all of it for 60 minutes.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:03 am
Thec07 it took 3-4 years but I think we finally have all our ducks in a row. I mean from HC to water boy.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Well if Moore is as fast as Hue is saying. Think of the double reverse or the treat of it with Ford and Moore.
Or should I say Moore Ford please.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:04 am
152. Yeah Priest good call.
“I see rythym (rhythm, Steve) and timing of our offense, the quarterback throwing the ball on time in a rythym and a guy making a play.” -Hue Jack City
He couldnt even blame Routt for getting burnt.
I like that JC is under the radar, though. Let the young guns get their props & build some confidence going into the season
August 4th, 2011 at 12:06 am
I absolutely hope these young WRs are as good in live action as they are in practice.Maybe we can put to rest the notion that we must pick up some vet castoff WR.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:06 am
177.priesttj Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Our rookie TE runs a 4.4 40 LOL try covering that it’s insane. DMC runs a 4.3 there is no way to handle all of it for 60 minutes.
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Depending on the Oline, I can see us going empty….
trips right JFORD, CHAZ, DMOORE motion DMAC to the left.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:06 am
RMR you shot all the live bullets early under your new alias NAPS. It was hilarious!
Naps
Code Pathetic
August 4th, 2011 at 12:10 am
First it was Ford running by Rout now it’s Moore, and it’s not because Routt can’t play it’s because the flat out speed and Routt can run like the wind. That’s what’s so damn impressive about it. We have easily the fastest secondary ion the league and it’s getting roasted.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:11 am
We can go with our young guns, they can handle it…they are flying under the radar so to speak.
No one will be expecting DHB, or CHAZ to light anyone up due to past performance. I however expect a healthy CHAZ, and an improving DHB to really contribute to the offensive production. Moreover, no one will suspect DMOORE until its too late…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Are you guys trying to say speed kills?What a novel concept.Many on here will be surprised to hear that and see it in work.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:13 am
*see it work
August 4th, 2011 at 12:14 am
If Campbell sucks this year, what will his defenders blame it on?
August 4th, 2011 at 12:14 am
it’s getting roasted.
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ROFLMAO….
You know whats scary is that we have an OCO that can scheme and handle all of the speed we have…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:14 am
Lefty12 think about it have you heard even a whisper of the Raiders going sfter these high priced WR’s? I haven’t and this is why…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Cut DHB’s ass immediately and put Moore in the active rotation. Sign Housh and now we got something at WR. The fact Boss didn’t sign today means that either the money’s not right or Hue doesn’t want him. If he’s not inked by tomorrow forget it.
Routt getting used by a rook is not a good sign but he could be slacking in camp as he is a vet and doesn’t need to go max this early on, plus sure he’s going 1 on 1 every play with no film or scheme help. Still have plenty of confidence in him as our 1 as long as he brings the A game for the season. There really isn’t anyone else in FA that can help us now anyway.
Loved Hue ripping the team publicly today for a crap practice, they and we need to know that is unacceptable. Still liking what I say (hear) alot…
Bush will sign tomorrow – he has no choice – but hopefully he gets a long term deal – 3-4 years at least, but prob gets the 1 year tender instead..
Go RAIDERS!
August 4th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Cut DHB’s junk immediately and put Moore in the active rotation. Sign Housh and now we got something at WR. The fact Boss didn’t sign today means that either the money’s not right or Hue doesn’t want him. If he’s not inked by tomorrow forget it.
Routt getting used by a rook is not a good sign but he could be slacking in camp as he is a vet and doesn’t need to go max this early on, plus sure he’s going 1 on 1 every play with no film or scheme help. Still have plenty of confidence in him as our 1 as long as he brings the A game for the season. There really isn’t anyone else in FA that can help us now anyway.
Loved Hue ripping the team publicly today for a crap practice, they and we need to know that is unacceptable. Still liking what I say (hear) alot…
Bush will sign tomorrow – he has no choice – but hopefully he gets a long term deal – 3-4 years at least, but prob gets the 1 year tender instead..
August 4th, 2011 at 12:16 am
What is going to be nice is the unit (WRs) that most thought was our weakness could very well turn into our strength.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Lets not get to carried away bout cambell this is only training camp. Games are gonna be alot different. Im rooting for cambell more then anyone. As awesome as dmac and seymour are cambell is key to are sucsess. I hope this D is gonna be as good as i believe they are. If only we can stop giving up the big plays on the ground and blown coverages down the field and i believe we will.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:19 am
I dont think routt is slacking, i think the WR’s we have are that good…
Honestly who in the league can cover JFORD 1 on 1????
Campbell says DMOORE is another JFORD…Translation
who can cover DMOORE 1 on 1????
Sorry Floyd…We are going to go to war with ALL of our young improving guns…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:19 am
I think by midseason no one will wnat to see this offense because when they see what we do to the Jets and the Pat’s back to back they are gonna crap bricks….
August 4th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Night cap. gnight Nation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hWYea9yXBo
Go RAIDERS!
August 4th, 2011 at 12:20 am
Cut DHB and sign a washed up Housh=ridiculous.We don’t need DHB to be a star,but with his size and speed he will be another complimentary weapon.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:21 am
JCampbell is having a great camp so far…The last several years the word from jerry and all reports were that the QB position did not looks so good. I havent heard a peep about JC…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Denarius is making me look psychic.
Respect to Harder2000
for posting his highlight link on draft day.
Raider J Says:
May 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Don’t be surprised to see Moore take some of DHB’s minutes. He has skills and put up good numbers without a consistent HC or QB. Murphy will have to step his game up too.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Naw dont cut DHB….He will improve this year and be a contributor to the offense…Our OCO will know how to use him to our advantage…I expect him to have a breakout season…
August 4th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Being able to rotate 4 or 5 guys with the speed we have at WR and will wear on the opposing defenses.Come late in the games,they will have a difficult time keeping up.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Lefty12 just let them keep talking DHB is going to shock the world, we only need 3-4 plays from him. The difference is they will go for scores, they just don’t understand what a physical specimen this kid is. All they look at is his stats from the past 2 years.
This kid is going to explode I can just feel it. Like I said when he was hurt that we were worried they aren’t. I know how Mr D operates and that is all him if Hue gets DHB hurt worse he will have hell to pay. That’s al it is Mr Davis wants the world to see what this kid is and now they are about to see. He doesn’t want that screwed with. As big as Chaz is DHB may be the most physical rec’r we have he is very well put together. Now he’s ready to start making plays. LOOK OUT!!
August 4th, 2011 at 12:33 am
188.Orthodoxdj Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:14 am
If Campbell sucks this year, what will his defenders blame it on?
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As a JC defender, I say if he sucks this year he’s gone.
I defend the fact that JC earned the right to start this year, the last year of his contract.
I believe he will play well and hope he plays great. The better he plays, the more Raider victories & the more stable the future of the organization becomes. As a Raider fan, how can you not root for that? So Go Jason Go!
August 4th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Priest,I can’t remember a player I’d like to succeed more than DHB.With all the flack he has gotten on here and from all the pundits,it would be so sweet.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:38 am
JC is showing what he can do in camp as we speak. He’s playing against players who practice against him everyday and he’s throwing strikes. Guys this is the NFL you play how you practice uf he can do it in practice, trust me he can do it in a game easier.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:39 am
Raider J,it amazes me how many on here probably wish he does fail,just as they want DHB to fail so they can stick out their chests and brag about how right they were.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:39 am
Amen Left, Amen!! I can’t wait to shut these guys up.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:47 am
Lol the 60 million dollar man Tamba Hali blocked by Jason Campbell
August 4th, 2011 at 12:47 am
Boy,I hope so,Priest.there are so many who act like they know so damn much.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:49 am
Sure Lefty. If my son gets bad grades, and I tell him they’re bad, I want him to fail so I can be right.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:49 am
203. TJ, I hope your feelings are accurate. Maybe now that the receiving corp is deeper, DHB’s role can be simplified/minimized & he’ll feel less pressure, relax and make plays.
202. Especially given Lefty’s scenario
…but at some point I’d like to hear Hue Jack say, “wow!” about his performance in addition to physical gifts.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Yeah and most of them are just going along with the crowd. It’s taboo to say anything positive about DHB to them. I give credit where credit is due. he hasn’t played well but there are very good reasons for it, He didn’t draft himself nor did he pay himself. The kid just has to relax perform because he’s shown that he can so I know he will.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:52 am
Look, I want EVERY RAIDER to be a pro bowl player. I would HATE to see ANY of our guys fail. It just makes me laugh when I see how much people are pumped by a few practices when last year JC was just OKAY. That’s it. There wasn’t anything great about him. He lost his favorite target yesterday, yet somehow he’s the next Peyton Manning. Idealizing the guy means excuses will be made if/when he falters. JC will likely never be great, but I’ll take good.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:52 am
A perfect example is earlier I read where someone said W.McFadden should be cut.Why?According to the posts on here he has been the nickel CB and looks as if he is the best of the young CBs we’ve drafted the last 2 years at this point.I don’t know if they say these things for the shock factor or they really haven’t a clue.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:54 am
211. If your son’s grades are low but have improved do you compare him to the worst student in the class and talk about how many others are better students than him?
…or do you acknowledge and reiforce the improvement for encouragement?
August 4th, 2011 at 12:54 am
I think we’ll get some big plays out of McFadden. L. Murphy and Ford will have spotty success. Our defensive secondary will be a joke now without Nnamdi. Run defense was never that good. Top it off with Al’s penchant for man coverage, this could be our worst defense ever. It’ll be fun to watch Mcfadden and I’ll enjoy the 5 or so wins.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:57 am
Ok, if my son only improved a little bit, and it was after working with a particular tutor, then he suddenly refuses to see that tutor because he doesn’t think he needed him anymore, I would tell my son he’s making a mistake.
You act like the Raiders went 12-4 last year.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:58 am
Everyone ttalks about how much better Crabtree was and to be honest crabtree is a serious disappointment. He’s missing his 3rd straight training camp. He’s having recurring foot problems and he’s nowhere near what they thought he was. So far his stats outweigh DHB’s by a mile but their careers are barely off the ground. let’s see who’s better this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:59 am
I’ll believe results in the regular season. Analogies about children are ridiculous. Wins and losses, folks. I don’t care if we win every game 3 to 2. WIN. Isn’t there a Raiders saying about it?
People on here talk up DHB for doing what, I don’t know, but talk about Nnamdi and Miller like they’re garbage and we’re better of without them. THOSE GUYS PRODUCED ON THE FIELD. What has DHB done? Seriously, give me an argument that’s at least somewhat convincing to show an objective person that DHB is a good WR.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:00 am
Well, DHB had a great workout today against a bunch of cones. That’ has to count for something. lol
August 4th, 2011 at 1:02 am
It is funny that those that ‘hate’ on the guy will blame the bust,Gradkowski,and the carousal at QB for the teams failure the last couple of years,but never take those factors into consideration when discussing DHB.If he had played with a good QB his first couple of years i believe we would have seen a different receiver.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:02 am
No, Tom Cable celebrating in the locker room after going 8-8 acted like the Raiders went 12-4.
I’m acting like the Raiders improved enough to deserve my encouragement.
…and if that tutor was successful after refering to another tutor for advise, doesn’t hiring the second tutor make sense?
August 4th, 2011 at 1:02 am
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August 4th, 2011 at 1:03 am
Let’s see what he does this year he’s only in his 3rd year if he gets better and better as his career goes on. Who knows how good this kid can be. All he has to do is get better………..period
August 4th, 2011 at 1:04 am
And once again, let me be clear, I WANT DHB TO BE AMAZING. To this point, he has given us nothing. He can’t even practice and people are saying he’s primed for a breakout year. Really? Based on what? Did he catch a pass against Scenic Routt?
August 4th, 2011 at 1:06 am
4.ohioraider Says:
August 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Clearly, what JC needs is “a really big target.”
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LOL.
That’s kind of harsh but pretty funny.
I’d say it applies more to Russell.
I hope Campbell does real well but he has his work cut out for him after what Al did to the offensive line.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:06 am
Last year ,especially as the year progressed,when he was targeted,he produced-he showed flashes.If he can show those flashes consistently,you are going to see one hell of a WR.Some of you don’t believe he can,a few of us do.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:07 am
I remember early in the season last yr the oline couldnt pretect cambell very well. Cambell does get some of the blame it seems like last yr he wouldnt let the play develope got nervous and rushed passes and of coarse the checkdowns. If oline starts of well this season cambell will get confidence and. Last yr he wasnt very confident but who could blame him not knowing if he would start one week to the other.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:07 am
God Lefty just STFU. You don’t even know what a hater is.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:08 am
Raider J,
Tom Cable said, “We’re not losers anymore”.
FACT.
Cable, as head coach, took a losing team to .500. What he said was spot on.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:11 am
Raider J Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:02 am
No, Tom Cable celebrating in the locker room after going 8-8 acted like the Raiders went 12-4.
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It was 9-7 if Seabass makes a 25 yard field goal and we were ALL celebrating the best team in seven years.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:13 am
DHB had a good vs Indy and some others but it was way too inconsistent. He wasn’t thrown to, he cannot make plays if they don’t throw to him. So let’s see what he does this year………no need to get heated over it. He has all year.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:13 am
It’s 7-9 if Jacoby Ford doesn’t put on a Superman cape against the Chiefs.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:18 am
let’s talk DB’s
routt played very well last year while getting thrown at constantly. he was a track guy but he has arrived. still young too.
cj has experience and has played well at times. remember, he was a career backup until he beat out routt. but just b/c routt beat him out last year doesn’t mean he can’t play b/c routt stepped up his game. but cj is making good money and if one of the youngsters looks good, he may go bye-bye. he’s not young but he’s still fast.
now for the newbies:
mcfadden–the team thought he would be good but he was banged up and then when he played, he didn’t impress. he still has potential and only in his 2nd year but he needs to step up.
ware–stepped in when mcfadden went down and…didn’t play that well. again, a rookie last year so struggles are anticipated, but he was a low-rounder so he needs to show something or he might find himself cut.
vandyke–obviously will make team. rookie cb’s are dangerous so i dunno. but he looks on film like he has ball skills. he’s fast and aggressive. that could be great but it could get him burned from time to time too. again, rookie.
chekwa–rookie but has enuff to stick around. could get some time but will likely spend time developing. maybe a dime/st guy for now.
with those 6, a safety will have to go, unless they cut cj or ware.
obviously, huff and branch are there. mitchell basically plays nickel LB on 3rd down and does it well.
i’d say eugene is on the bubble. he’s not young anymore.
stevie brown played well and in the redzone in clutch situations and came thru.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:20 am
Actually having some other good receivers could really benefit DHB because there won’t be as much pressure on him to be ‘the man’.He can relax and hopefully become the WR most of us would like to see.Naturally this doesn’t include the ‘haters’.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:37 am
we have 4 wr’s that need time. we’ll know if they can play soon enuff. a washed up vet who comes in and takes 1 spot would mean these 4 have to share the #2 and #3 spots. meaning not enuff reps to see if they can play.
schilens has the skills to be great. big, fast, smart, works hard. good hands. just needs to stay healthy. could get 70+ for 1100. but even 50 for 800 would be great.
murphy has looked like he’s capable of being a legit nfl wr. fast, good body. confident. runs pretty good routes. w/ better qb play, he may emerge. easily could get 60+ for 900. maybe more.
ford makes plays when he has the ball in his hands. fast as can be and makes good cuts and angles. a playmaker. deep threat. how good of a wr he is, i dunno. does he run good routes? good hands? we’ll see. not sure he’ll be the #1 or #2 quite yet. but he’ll make some plays. i think maybe 40+ for 650.
dhb has all the tools but the hands. did not look good as a rookie but that’s not a big deal. too many expectations. too many eyes on him. it made me alugh when he was drafted. everyone said he was such a huge reach. ridiculous. all scouts had him rising into the 1st round. so he was a major reach to take him in the early 1st but he would have been ok in the late 1st? stupid hype-analyis from guys trying to make news by trashing the raiders. he made some steps forward last year, but was hurt. 3rd year wr’s emerge. it takes time to learn the position. he works hard and has size/speed. we’ll see this year if his hands have gotten better. it’s not hard to imagine 3 catches a game, which equals 48 rec. and probably 850 yards. people would shut up if he does that.
moore is a talented rookie. he had pretty good production at a top sec school, that faces lots of good cb’s. he has apparently looked good in camp. but he’s a rookie and it will take time.
nick miller should get more chances but probably won’t. he’s small but he’s fast and catches everything.
August 4th, 2011 at 1:39 am
234.Orthodoxdj Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:13 am
It’s 7-9 if Jacoby Ford doesn’t put on a Superman cape against the Chiefs.
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Jacoby Ford doesn’t need a cape it would just slow him down!
I really like that little short guy. He’s fun to watch.
And happy birthday yesterday Jacoby!
August 4th, 2011 at 2:19 am
dont forget the greatest show on turf,young recievers and a QB that played in the church minor league .the next thing you know SB.now thats what we been hearing about our young dudes trying to catch that ball.and if anybody would know it’s the guys that work with them.if you blink your eyes this year your going to miss the making of the greatest OAKLAND RAIDERS team to ever get called for holding ,or passing inter.we will win games this year and get to the latter part of the playoffs.but that 12th man is the one we must get past……(ssssshhh i think the refs are against us ,its a conspiracy within the NFL.######## JUST SAYIN
August 4th, 2011 at 2:41 am
u know what’s funny? all my life, i’ve been a raider fan and i know how people hate on them. and for a decade, all the media (well most) have enjoyed going on and on about how bad they are. but did anyone notice how last year, when the draft class was looking good, and it was apparent that they were okay, people started to swing just a little on them? if things go well this year, you will see so many media people and fans too, who jump on their bandwagon. they secretly want to be part of it. all of the people who hated me for loving them (in indiana, no less), would also admit how good their players were and cite facts about how they were the winningest team in sports. they relish when we’re down but they watch in wonder when we roll. this could be one of the greatest comeback parties of all time. i want al davis to sit there and watch as the “greatness of the raiders” can’t be doubted. when he gets to hoist that trophy one more time.
August 4th, 2011 at 2:43 am
Raider J,
Tom Cable said, “We’re not losers anymore”.
FACT.
Cable, as head coach, took a losing team to .500. What he said was spot on.
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I disagree.
how is .500 not losing? and you won as much as you lost is no acceptable answer to the question are you a loser……….you either win or lose………..or tie…
based on that ,h**ll you lost half your games.you call that winning ,tom cable lost his job because he set the bar at .500 and that is not even close to being a winner.
August 4th, 2011 at 2:53 am
o-line
looks like competition is the thing now.
veldheer–every pundit swooned about how he was a draft steal. only better things to come. we knew he had the measureables, but who knew he would step in as a rookie and perform like he belonged? great size, strength, quicks. long arms. will be very good.
loper–journeyman who got a shot and looked like he could play in this league. not really much of a falloff between him and gallery, really.
wiz–i like him and he sounds like he’ll be an overachiever like his uncle. but he might get abused a little bit early. there’s a reason they decided to bring back satele, and hue is backpedalling about him being the annointed starter, saying “well he was the only C on the team at the time”. yeah right. i think he may be struggling in camp.
carlisle–solid vet. better in zone but he’s been to war. pretty good.
barnes–versatile. former starting LT for years in the league, so he can play. jumbo te. g/t either side. nice addition.
barksdale–rookie. big and did start at a top school. but a rookie. i’ll say it again. and not very much time to earn the spot. might be good down the line though.
campbell–boy, i dunno. yeah he’s gig, strong, and fast. but he was all those things in college too. and he hardly played last year. might end up a bust. hope not.
heyer, smiley–vets w/ lots of starts under their belt. will push the guys in front of them and might start.
satele–this guy gets mauled by big DT’s. but he’s still young and has lots of starts. either ok starter or good depth.
August 4th, 2011 at 2:58 am
Laugh now while you are still able to. If Bey is healthy, he will start and he will make you eat those hearty laughs when he goes to the pro bowl this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 3:08 am
te’s, qb’s, rb’s
meyers–i haven’t heard a peep good or bad about meyers this camp. seems like he could be adequate. caught the ball well in college. just needs a chance but probably not a ton of upside.
gordon–big, strong, fast. bigtime recruit to bigtime school. hardly any catches, which means he has paddles for hands. can help as a blocker. could develop but probably like john day-owens. just really not a recieier.
ausberry–yeah he’s fast. could be good, even very good. but a rookie and rookie receivers don’t usually contribute all that much. think about a TE version of marcel reece. will just take some time to learn the position.
i do like the idea of boss here. bigger blocker than miller. not as good at getting open but better in redzone.
campbell–2nd year in offense for the 1st time since hi-school. known to be studious. great tools. has played better every year, and played very well qb-rating-wise in 2nd half. may not be great but could be very good this year. his one problem seemed to be reacting a little slowly, but w/ more time in the system, he may be more instinctive, allowing him to let his tools take over.
edwards–great pickup really. only 27. not an obvious threat to campbell right now, but a nice insurance policy and potential sleeper, b/c he does have skills and could develop, like another former 1st rounder from stanford did a few years back.
boller–now 30 so he’s just a backup, but not a bad one. lots of experience and could come in and win a game or two if injury demands it.
mcfadden–who saw last year coming? ridiculous. bigger things to come. we may see marshall faulk like #’s. seriously.
bush–great compliment. true rb. could easily be a #1.
jones–reggie bush? chris johnson? maybe. looks insane on tape. yes, against lesser opponents but hey, that’s what he should do if he’s bigtime. on another level when he played college.
reece–great receiver out of backfield. horrible blocker. maybe worst i’ve ever seen out of a FB in the nfl. just no feel for it and doesn’t seem to attack at all. just reaches and pushes. but he can catch and run.
rankin–pretty good really but unless there’s an injury, he’s bye-bye.
bennett– same as above but old.
tonga/mccluskey–b/c of reece’s horrible blocking, i’d like to see of these guys make the team.
August 4th, 2011 at 3:17 am
d-line
seymour–gotta love this grab by al davis. he has been a huge influence on this team. still really good.
kelly–a little lazy in the past but seymour’s influence has been big. he flat out dominates when he gets after it. makes a LOT of tackles for a dt.
houston–could emerge. 300 lb. de that penetrates. might be a real good player.
shaughnessy–i gotta admit, i didn’t think he would be good when i watched his tape after draft. looked stiff. but man he’s getting good.
bryant–decent find. works hard. makes some plays.
henderson–was really good. still helps. really big. clogs things up. not terribly quick these days.
scott-poor guy. didn’t work out at LB. too light to be every down DE. getting lost in all of the pass rush talent. but he can get to the qb.
moss–eh. was a bigtime hi-school recruit. played well in college. a little tall and light. but played ok when he got the chance. might give u some downs here and there.
August 4th, 2011 at 3:24 am
lb’s
mcclain is the key here. if he plays instinctive like he did in college, then he goes to the ball well and destroys b/c of his size. gets thru traffic well. a little unsure about him b/c he seems to love beating up on little guys. where’s all that against bigger guys? actual real-life bullies disappear against guys who hit back. we’ll see.
wimbley–hey the dude can rush the qb. still young and has a 9 and 11 sack year under his belt. expect double digits this year. will be worth the money if he does that. ok LB. not great but not bad. it’s pass-rushing folks. the pass-rushing.
groves–not sold. really doesn’t do anything. not enuff tackles, even for a 2-down player. still young though.
goethel–is he the answer? maybe. looks like a real LB. maybe not great but could be solid, which would be an upgrade over groves.
williams–s/t only. played about like groves when he used to start.
davis–? is he the 6th guy? who the hell knows?
August 4th, 2011 at 4:58 am
Seems like Mr.Boss stayed over night fellas
Kevin Boss and the Raiders got along so well during his workout that the negotiations apparently went into high-gear after that. This comes from the New York Daily News:
“According to reports, the 27-year-old Boss was impressive in his workout for Raiders coach Hue Jackson and he was still at their camp in Napa, Calif., late Wednesday night. Boss was expected to take a physical, too. It was not immediately known if he was ready to sign a deal.”
August 4th, 2011 at 5:26 am
Where is the day shift at?
August 4th, 2011 at 5:30 am
I ask those of us gathered here to bow our heads and give thanks to Al Davis as we begin another day as witness to the greatness that is Al.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Kevin stayed overnight?
Thats funny. When I performed my nightly chore of places roses at the gates, I noticed the only lights on were in Amy’s office.
Maybe she is signing off the Boss
August 4th, 2011 at 5:34 am
Good Morning Nation! Hope Boss like the burgers and slaw!
August 4th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Ex
Did you play in Dells FF league last year?
August 4th, 2011 at 5:39 am
Good Morning Nation!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
August 4th, 2011 at 5:40 am
Exla and Plunk!
August 4th, 2011 at 5:41 am
WElcome home 4eva!!
August 4th, 2011 at 5:42 am
Mike & Mike just now talking about what a disaster losing Nnamdi and Zach is for the Raiders. Did say they’ll possibly get two 3rd round compensatory picks, though.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Thankx Plunk!…
did you ever finish that castle you’re building in the high desert?
August 4th, 2011 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
4Eva, Plunk, ExLa, Texas…what’s going on guys? You think Boss, signs??? Who knows…Hope Bush is back today!
August 4th, 2011 at 5:48 am
Top-O-Morning Hwnrdr!
August 4th, 2011 at 5:50 am
Bush is a good back.Does anyone know who the starting O-line is gonna be?
August 4th, 2011 at 5:52 am
KC signed McClain… ugh the quicksand keeps getting deeper
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NO !!!
August 4th, 2011 at 5:53 am
252.Plunketthead Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Ex
Did you play in Dells FF league last year?
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Yep, Had a couple of great games but Manning killed me during the middle of the season when he had that slump. I missed the upper division playoffs and Dakota killed me in the lower half.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:54 am
RaidingTexas Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:42 am
Mike & Mike just now talking about what a disaster losing Nnamdi and Zach is for the Raiders. Did say they’ll possibly get two 3rd round compensatory picks, though.
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Who listens to Mike and Mike anymore? That’s a wasteland of radio. They are just pimping their own product, not reporting all of sports. They definitely have an East Coast Bias, and they are part of the media that capitalizes on the ratings of a wide swath of Raider haters. Zero credibility and zero knowledge by that crew.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:55 am
All this love for some people who praised Dennarius Moore after we drafted him, with the I told you so’s.
What about some love for the only guy on here talking about him BEFORE THE DRAFT!!!
I use to post my mock draft (with us taking Moore in the 4th) and would ask people why no one was talking about him. I think Young American was the only one who conversed me on him.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation….
Looking forward to some news on the Boss signing, Bush, and how the hell we’re supposed to get under the cap by today…
Evidently we have been as much as 40MM over in the past and have gotten under in time, so we’ll see…
August 4th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Don’t worry guys, never know what would have happened if we kept Nnamdi and Miller. Hammy’s, ACL’s, Broken Bones, concussions. We will win with what we have. Mark my words.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Guest123 Says:
Who listens to Mike and Mike anymore? That’s a wasteland of radio.
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The Dallas programming doesn’t kick in on ESPN until 9 AM here, so we get the national broadcast until then. It’s background noise until Ben & Skin comes on.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Mike Goldberg bleeds Jets and Golic is suffering from “post concussion syndrome”.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Mike and Mike and even the Herd now are just awful to listen to.
I love me some SVP and Russillo though.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:00 am
OK JustFireBaby….
MAD PROPS 2 UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
the am. crew!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:00 am
The problem we will have getting under the cap is 2 fold:
1. 24 million in ‘dead money’ that cant be eliminated in anyway, effectively leaving us with 102 mill cap (including the allowable exemptions)
2. Seymour, Routt, Henderson, Wimbley and anyone else who signed their contract this league year can NOT be restructured. We have 5 guys accounting for more than 30% of the available cap this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Rookie receiver Denarius Moore is fitting in quite well in the early going. The 6-feet, 195-pounder out of Tennessee put on a clinic during practice Wednesday, with much of his damage coming against No. 1 cornerback Stanford Routt.
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Is Thec in the building?
I need to hit that guy up for the lottery #’s !
August 4th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Pretty excited about potentially signing Kevin Boss. But I temper that enthousiasm with the fact he has had a long list of injuries, including his hip, and concussions.
But he’s a real big target, athletic, better in the RZ, better blocker than Miller.
If he can give us 70% of the catches Zach gave us, say 40 catches, the loss of Miller will be minimal and could open a path for our wideouts to be more of the “go-to” guys. It helps the offense grow up, just as Nnamdi leaving helps the defense grow.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:02 am
I listen to NFL Radio on Sirius channell 88. There is some ‘anti-raider sentiment’ but realistically they are speaking the truth. Poor cap management over the years, and Al assuming there would be no cap, or at least dead money wouldnt count this year put us in a real bind.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Mornin nation
August 4th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Agree on Herd. That guy is a clueless, flip-flopping flamethrower. Last year all he said was how great Tim Tebow would be. lmfao
August 4th, 2011 at 6:04 am
“Darrius Heyward-Bey a rookie contract that pays him $1 million plus a $7.5 million roster bonus this season for an $8.5 million cap hit.”
If we didn’t pay that roster bonus yet, I’d say cut him!
We have enough other WRs that we don’t have to wait for his “potential”. I think we’ll have at least 1 receiver from each of the last 4 years who will out perform him (Chaz 3 years ago, Murphy 2 years ago, Ford last year and Moore this year).
Free up the space now.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster
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and he’ll be gone next year
Nice draft, Al!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Raiderzmaverick Says:
If we didn’t pay that roster bonus yet, I’d say cut him!
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You’re speaking my language! Dump that fool. Don’t let it go on as long as the salary cap draining Jamarcus saga. Cut your losses and move on.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Moore might be good…but what does that tell you when our 11million per year CB (top 5 paid CB in the league) gets burned repeatedly by rookies and 2nd year WRs.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Or restructure DHB so he only makes the $1 mil this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Nice draft, Al!
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actually, to get a pro-bowl TE and M. Bush is still not bad. It’s Al’s fault for not locking him up long term. 2 very good players is still not terrible.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:08 am
Or trade him for a 4th round pick where we’ll find a more productive WR next year LOL
August 4th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Dell,
I still can’t get in your FFL!
would you please delete my team from last year, or “un-welcome” it? My e-mail address has changed and I can’t get in because there aren’t enough spots with the guys already signed up this year and everybody invited back from last season …
Thanks pal
August 4th, 2011 at 6:10 am
They may have already reworked Beys roster bonus. Remember his mystery ailment and he was only on the field yesterday. Roster bonus may have been tied to cap issue.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:13 am
They may have already reworked Beys roster bonus. Remember his mystery ailment and he was only on the field yesterday. Roster bonus may have been tied to cap issue.
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That sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it also makes some sense. Since when does a guy sit out practice for a “toothache”?
August 4th, 2011 at 6:16 am
He’s probably not online right now, but props to Rob_Raider for burning the midnight oil breaking down the 2011 Raiders. Good stuff.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:21 am
Anyone have a FFL open to play in still?
August 4th, 2011 at 6:24 am
285.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:10 am
They may have already reworked Beys roster bonus. Remember his mystery ailment and he was only on the field yesterday. Roster bonus may have been tied to cap issue.
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Nah, if he restructured he wouldnt be able to practice until today, because his contract would be ‘new’
August 4th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Word is Carlisle and Dmac were working on restructuring to help out the cap though. There will be some cuts today, and at least 1 starter will be cut. I dont think DHB’s roster bonus would be due until the league year starts today, but if he is counting 8.5 mill he may be out of here, ESPECIALLY with the emergence of DMo17
August 4th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Does the roster bonus count if he is cut.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:32 am
I think some are giving up on DHB to quick….just think if we did the same with Clif branch?
The addition of JFord will help DHB,just like Malcolm Barnwell helped Branch,imo
August 4th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Schefter is reporting that he would be surprised if Boss isn’t a Raider!
That could be good news…somebody MUST HAVE restructured for that to happen! Funny thing is TheRaiders were ready to give Super Mario a 1. something million dollar contract this year, until he failed his physical…Interesting!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:35 am
you’re going old school there, 4Eva…but you’re right…what would have happened?
August 4th, 2011 at 6:35 am
291.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Does the roster bonus count if he is cut.
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Not sure how much of his remaining contract is still guaranteed. The guy seems pretty reasonable and team oriented and he has to know if he gets cut, its fairly unlikely that he will be picked up by anyone, and he DEFINATELY wont get more than league minimum. I cant see him NOT restructuring to help the team out.
We should have made Routts contract 5 years with the same money, would have been much more cap friendly
August 4th, 2011 at 6:36 am
We gave henderson 1.7 mill but pulled the offer when he failed, Steven Heyer was signed for the same 1.7 mill
August 4th, 2011 at 6:37 am
I think some are giving up on DHB to quick….just think if we did the same with Clif branch?
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Cliff Branch didnt count 7% against our salary cap. Im not giving up on DHB but he is WAY over compensated for his production
August 4th, 2011 at 6:38 am
It will never be finished but what I have is looking great, slow process building out of pocket.
Send your email addy and I will trust you with my FB page for pics.
I can trust you, right?
realwinodog@yahoo.com
August 4th, 2011 at 6:39 am
EX
I was just checking. Then thats you that has already signed up for this year? Draft is 23 days away
August 4th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Plunk….
I am not on my old laptop.My friend moved in and 4 some reason I cant access my e-mail,soo my friend said he will fix 2day.But thank you very much and I will see it soon tho!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:45 am
and of course you can trust me…we BROTHERS in here and everywhere!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:46 am
KC signed McClain… ugh the quicksand keeps getting deeper
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No worries!
We have Marcel Beast at FB.
If JFB and Priest agree on this, I have to jump on board.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:48 am
What about some love for the only guy on here talking about him BEFORE THE DRAFT!!!
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clap clap clap
whiiiiiiiisssstle
clap clap clap
August 4th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Im not worried about comparing our FB to theirs, Im worried about our less than stellar run defense stoping Charles with a beast like McClain lead blocking!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:49 am
you da man as always Jhill,imo
August 4th, 2011 at 6:49 am
guest123 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Nice draft, Al!
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actually, to get a pro-bowl TE and M. Bush is still not bad. It’s Al’s fault for not locking him up long term. 2 very good players is still not terrible.
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I agree and will add one more. Some yahoo hick had the consumption of cough syrup rated higher on his bucket list then being one of the best QB,s in the NFL.
How much influence did that gay mickey mouse lookalike named kiff have. I bet Al threw him a bone after selecting the mister robitussion
August 4th, 2011 at 6:50 am
LOL!
August 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Ahhh…
jascittlesyurp
August 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am
To bad for Patterson of the Eagles. Tests show potential life threatening and career ending brain disorder.
August 4th, 2011 at 6:58 am
Good news is that I think our WRs will be utilized a lot more this year out of the backfield catching the ball as well.
It plays more to the strength of Campbell I think. With that said, McFadden could get close to 2000 all purpose yards this year if he stays healthy
August 4th, 2011 at 7:01 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:45 am
and of course you can trust me…we BROTHERS in here and everywhere!
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What up 4 Eva?
CODE BLACK 2011
August 4th, 2011 at 7:01 am
guest123 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:54 am
RaidingTexas Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:42 am
Mike & Mike just now talking about what a disaster losing Nnamdi and Zach is for the Raiders. Did say they’ll possibly get two 3rd round compensatory picks, though.
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Who listens to Mike and Mike anymore? That’s a wasteland of radio. They are just pimping their own product, not reporting all of sports. They definitely have an East Coast Bias, and they are part of the media that capitalizes on the ratings of a wide swath of Raider haters. Zero credibility and zero knowledge by that crew.
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Horrible show. At the very least, Golic offers some interesting football insight from a former players perspective, but Greenberg is horrible. And NEVER knows what hes talking about, ANY sport. The other morning, he was ranting about how much he didnt like Matt Hasselbeck changed his name to Matthew for the up coming season. That is probably the extent of his “expert analysis”, although he never even gave a reason as to why he didnt like it or why it bothered him so much, he just wasted time on how much he didnt like the name change.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:01 am
it might get to the point that players will have to sign a waiver from the fall-out from concussions
August 4th, 2011 at 7:01 am
309.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am
To bad for Patterson of the Eagles. Tests show potential life threatening and career ending brain disorder.
Yeah, some kind of arterie entanglement around his skull…WOW…Prayers to him and his family!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Howdy Realist Dirty Raccoon!
Umm…did you come to to some sort of realization?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Not worried about our run defense.
We had 3 first year LBs on the field last year, and bad SS play. I think all 4 of those areas will be improved this year on experience alone.
The “big play” will still be there for other team in the passing game and the running game from time to time. The guys on the other side of the ball are getting paid too. I could see the concern if it we like the Kirk Morrison years where EVERY run was 5 or 6 yds plus. That doesn’t happen any more.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:05 am
313.4evaRaider Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:01 am
it might get to the point that players will have to sign a waiver from the fall-out from concussions
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Pattersons issue is not concussion related though, its something he has probably had all his life, but he got extremely dehydrated at practice yesterday which caused the seizure, then with the testing from that they identified the arterial issue.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Mike Patterson.
Fight On!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Another thing that is going to help our defense out is the improved offense.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:08 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Howdy Realist Dirty Raccoon!
Umm…did you come to to some sort of realization?
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Nope, just got banned a few times. It’s been a long off season.
Speaking of seasons, Bow season starts here in bout 21 days for Deer and Bear.
How the heck have you been?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:09 am
The Oakland Raiders have PLAY MAKERS. McFadden, Ford, Moore. PLAY MAKERS! Home run hitters, any given play. Thats what we’ve been missing and needing. Get excited if you arent already. Hue is going to make sure his play makers get the ball in their hands, so they can MAKE PLAYS! I loved Zach Millers hands, and I know he was hurt last year some, but if you really think about it, he was ALREADY being phased out of Hues offense last year. He stopped Miller from being the focal point of the offense and made it McFadden. TOUCHDOWNS! Thats one area we will continue to improve in. TOUCHDOWNS!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Who listens to Mike and Mike anymore? That’s a wasteland of radio.
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Streamin old skool 93.5 FM KDAY!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:11 am
All I know is it’s a week away from the first pre-season game and I’m pumped to finally watch some football!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Terence Newman staying put in Dallas
Derrick Mason visiting Jets
Interesting!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Gator booooooottttts
with da pimped out Gucci suuuuitttsss
Got everythaaaaang
In my mama’s naaaaameeee
Heeyyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:12 am
I guess it makes me a “hater” since I think DHB is not an NFL caliber player, sorry. I hope he gets cut or stays on the sidelines so we can develop NFL caliber receivers. I am sure he is a nice kid, but he is just another guy that can run fast with receiving skills that would make Alvis Whitted blush. He is AWFUL. period.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Awwwwwww shhhhhhhh
Young B’s homie!
Tah dow
Tah dow
Tah dow, how ya like me now!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:14 am
Speaking of being banned, I made a comment about the orientation of a beach near Torrey Pines yesterday to ChargedUp and I was unable to post for the rest of the day.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:16 am
89052, do you know it they are showing the games locally during preseason?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:17 am
323.St. Louis Raider Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:11 am
All I know is it’s a week away from the first pre-season game and I’m pumped to finally watch some football!
Yup!!! Can’t wait!
Good Morning Ray!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Wonder if any internet sites will be showing the games after the busts of ATDHE last year.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Yeah Charged Up was in here talking, semi trash…some of it he was thinking the same like we do…
August 4th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Channelsurfing got busted also by the feds.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:19 am
bcz24 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:00 am
The problem we will have getting under the cap is 2 fold:
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You still believe Uncle Johnnie?
Huff’s big contract?
All the OL guys we signed?
Boss in da house?
In the Cromartie, Floyd, etc (allegedly) hunt?
Gaither and 85 pursuit?
Who have we cut? We were 17 million over BEFORE all this, according to Uncle Johnnie.
There is not one team in the NFL in cap trouble
August 4th, 2011 at 7:19 am
So we are somewhere between $12-17 million over the cap…..who is going to get chopped.
Bennett and Eugene would save about $3 million….
Boller would save another $1.25 million….
that just is not enough so there will be a surprise…..my guess is Tommy Kelley.
If Kelley doesn’t restructure then they will move Houston inside and live with Moss, Scott and Shonasty at DE.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:19 am
CODE MUFUGGIN BLACK 2011!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Smokin on blunt
Feelin kinda high …
Warren G in da house
Indo Smoke
JHill getting his early mornin swerve ohhn!
Wassup LA, where ya at??!!??
I know you got this KDay streamin!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
TE David Thomas re-signed with New Orleans
S Bernard Pollard to Baltimore
RB Tiki Barber works out for the Dolphins
DANG.
get the Bossman!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Been REAL good Realist,for not much work down here.Silly me now I remember….Bow season is about ready.Here in floritucky we have black-powder season 1st!
Hogs getting scared ’bout now lol!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
I wont cry at all if we slice Kelly
August 4th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Cuzz
N DO SMOKE IS A MAAAANNNNN SPORT!
This was the CUT!!!!!
Still can’t believe they played this shhh on the radio, lol!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:23 am
that just is not enough so there will be a surprise…..my guess is Tommy Kelley.
If Kelley doesn’t restructure then they will move Houston inside and live with Moss, Scott and Shonasty at DE.
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Kelly was voted defensive player of the year last year by the team. I doubt he will get cut. Not to say I dont agree with you, just that I think the org values him too much
August 4th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Kelly is better than many of you guys give him credit for. He played like a beast for a lot of last season. I think he was #1 on the D-Line in tackles (could be wrong), but for sure saw him involved in a bunch of plays.
I’d say restructure DHB or cut him. Then probably cut Eugene. Then only need to work out another 2-3 mil.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:27 am
G Jonathan Goodwin to SF
WR Laurent Robinson to SD
DT Anthony Hargrove to Philly
sorry fellas. just catching up
August 4th, 2011 at 7:27 am
No Schefter says we are 15.2 mill over the cap… This guys is just throwing numbers out there, its kind of ridiculous.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:27 am
343.bcz24 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:23 am
that just is not enough so there will be a surprise…..my guess is Tommy Kelley.
If Kelley doesn’t restructure then they will move Houston inside and live with Moss, Scott and Shonasty at DE.
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Kelly was voted defensive player of the year last year by the team. I doubt he will get cut. Not to say I dont agree with you, just that I think the org values him too much
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If not Kelley then who? Campbell? McFadden? Routt? Wimbley? Seymour?
After the recent signing Loper can probably go….that would be nearly $2 million.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:27 am
@theDHB85 Darrius Heyward-Bey
Ain’t seen you smile in awhile But I been dreamin’ ’bout you J.Cole — before I’m Gone.
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What…are we cutting him?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:28 am
This guys is just throwing numbers out there, its kind of ridiculous.
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EXTREMELY ridiculous, right Dakota!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I’d say restructure DHB or cut him. Then probably cut Eugene. Then only need to work out another 2-3 mil.
DHB made all his money last year in the uncapped year ($20 million in bonuses I believe)….I think he only makes like $1.5 million this year. Not much to restructure there.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Yeah Get Boss rite da fk now! Him and JC would be a nice connection
August 4th, 2011 at 7:30 am
3 things I’ll be paying attention to in the first preseason game:
1. Chaz and how comfortable he looks. Will he be tentative in his cuts, how smooth and fluid will the route running be. A healthy Chaz is a tremendous weapon to have and we are long overdue for the #1 WR spot to be seized. He has all the tools and abilities, every Raiders fan and coach knows this. WILL THIS BE THE YEAR HE STAYS HEALTHY?
2. Lamarr Houston. Period. He is my favorite defensive player on the team right now, mainly because his whole objective is to wreak havoc. I honestly just want to see him on the field, eating the QBs face.
3. McClain. I want to see if theres any noticeable difference in his decision making, ability to read plays, and basically QB the defense in general. I expect him to be a step or two quicker in decision making this year, just from experience and study. It looked like he may have been “over thinking” at times last season, and I expect him to be more comfortable. I also imagine that hes been watching film all off season. Im gonna be watching his reaction and response to each play.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Clayton is saying we are going to restructure Routt and Seymours new contract to fit the cap.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Hwnrdr, I’m thinking Charged up got Rolled up yesterday…haven’t seen him for a minute!
Yeeaahh Buuddddee!!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Cut Kelly and DHB…fk it!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Why does everyone want to cut Kelly? He had a very good season last year. His best in the league.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Guess we shall see Jhill.
Either we believe you and we are far under the cap and Al has suddenly decided to let two of his best draft picks in years walk away and has somehow found fiscal responsibility so appealing that he can just sit back and watch all of these free agents sign elsewhere or….
we are over the cap as reported by guys that have much better sources than any of us.
Hmmmm, I think I know which to believe.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:35 am
If by some miracle Chaz stays healthy we are majorly gettin over. He has ability to be our X receiver………really Chaz and Murphy with Ford in slot and Boss at TE would produce a much better passing game than last year
August 4th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Gotta run.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Any word on boss?cut bennet and eugene NOW!!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Kelly has reported in great shape for the 2nd yr in a row. Seymour and Kelly are studs up front. Get rid of DHB. AD made him a wealthy young man. Merry Christmas, now get the F out.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:38 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
To get under the cap, the Raiders will have a restructure contracts of Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt and others. They are $15.2Mil over
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ClaytonESPN John Clayton
The Giants are at the cap so they can move quicker in getting a Kevin Boss deal done, but the Raiders are after him.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Kelly can only rush the passer and he is only decent at best at it. I’d take Houston as my UT or move Seymour to UT and start henderson at NT….either way we are better off
August 4th, 2011 at 7:39 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Been REAL good Realist,for not much work down here.Silly me now I remember….Bow season is about ready.Here in floritucky we have black-powder season 1st!
Hogs getting scared ’bout now lol!
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Cool, Hogs us year round in Cali on the Coast. It’s all good.
I am going to Dungver opening night!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Seymour and Kelly signed 2 year deals, right?
How do we restructure a 2 year deal?
What, are we going to roll their $ into next year and have them count 20 million each against the cap?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Yeah well Al gonna have to do some fast work cuz Boss is a red zone target and can really make life easier for our WRs
August 4th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Jhill….by hook or crook lol
August 4th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Seymour probably wouldnt mind restructuring. All the money he made over the years so it shouldnt be a problem. He just want to lead the defense and help us return to glory. I hope he wins a Superbowl with us before he retires a raider. Go get boss Al come one dont let this one get away.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:42 am
You a lucky man Realist Dirty Raccoon!
Are you taking any family whiskey?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:42 am
D-Rac da purple berry pound express!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:43 am
4eva….whats da haps mayne?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:44 am
we are over the cap as reported by guys that have much better sources than any of us.
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We may very well be up against it NOW that we have signed Huff to a nice contract as well as all of our rookies OL, etc.
Those website, uh, not me, said we were 30 under the cap.
Tafur said the dead $ didn’t count.
How is it that Uncle Johnnie way out there in his basement has better info on the super duper uper secretive Raiders than these other 3 or 4 sources have?
He can’t be questioned? Even when his #s are “ridiculous”?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:44 am
We aren’t getting rid of any more of our core players this offseason so not sure why we are constantly discussing who needs to be cut, especially players that either #1: played well last year or #2 : were drafted 3 or leass years ago — contracts will be restructured to get under the cap, they will sign a few more scrubs to be extra bodies through practice, and every one of them will be cut in Sept to get to 53. Our team will be exactly as it was last year with the exception of probably 3 new linemen, our rookies, and possibly Boss, although I’m not expecting that signing unless the Giants don’t pursue him since he has already made it clear that he wants to stay in NY if at all possible.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Clayton is saying we are going to restructure Routt and Seymours new contract to fit the cap.
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Let’s hope so
both guys are grossly overpaid. DHB too!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:46 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/for-cowboys-d-rob-ryan-brings-toughness-that-wade-phillips-lacked/
LOL !!!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Seymour and Kelly signed 2 year deals, right?
How do we restructure a 2 year deal?
What, are we going to roll their $ into next year and have them count 20 million each against the cap?
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I think they were both 3 years. We could add a year and change salary to bonus money prorating the cap hit into years with a larger salary cap.
I dont know about Vito saying dead money doesnt count, because Clayton Schefter and King all answered me saying yes it DOES count on twitter.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:47 am
So how are we going to get this kid Moore on the field?
Eff it!
4 WRs with DMac in the backfield!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Wad Up Br ien!
always good 2C your smiling words!
Man-O-Man LETS KICK SOME NFL AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
August 4th, 2011 at 7:48 am
I dont understand all the hype around Rob Ryan. His defense sucked here, it sucked in Cleveland. When did this guy become a ‘good’ coach
August 4th, 2011 at 7:48 am
What, are we going to roll their $ into next year and have them count 20 million each against the cap?
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Lengthen the deal. I’d hate that for Routt as we’d be overpaying him for longer then LOL
August 4th, 2011 at 7:50 am
bcz24 Says:
I dont understand all the hype around Rob Ryan. His defense sucked here, it sucked in Cleveland. When did this guy become a ‘good’ coach
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Amen! Loved his charisma, but that’s about where it ends — gets old watching prevent defense the last quarter for 16 games.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Add a year?
I would think the player would balk at adding another year w/o adding more $.
Routt does have an option 3rd year, I think you’re right about that.
3 years 30 million turned into 4 years 30 million by adding another year?
You really think a player would sign off on that?
August 4th, 2011 at 7:53 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Kelly can only rush the passer and he is only decent at best at it. I’d take Houston as my UT or move Seymour to UT and start henderson at NT….either way we are better off
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Now this, I actually agree with. I like Houston at DT like at Texas, and I thought Kelly was really active when he was playing DE. Either way, I like that our line consists of players that can switch places on the line at any given time or play.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:55 am
I dont understand all the hype around Rob Ryan. His defense sucked here, it sucked in Cleveland. When did this guy become a ‘good’ coach
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you should know, east coast guy
Rob Ryan was the Patriots ILB coach (2000-2003), like Greg Biekert was for us last year
plus you know, he’s Buddy Ryan’s son!
haha
August 4th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Good news is that I think our WRs will be utilized a lot more this year out of the backfield catching the ball as well.
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That would be good news . . . if they could actually catch balls or stay off IR.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Ima leave this cap thing alone.
Y’all can have it.
All I know is we seem to be resigning all the guys we want, and are able to make offers to FAs.
May not be offering to pay 7 million to a TE who averages 4 catches and 40 yds a game, but we offered him something.
We may not offer Boss more than NY ends up offering, but CLEARLY we are able to make him some type of offer.
We have yet to cut ONE significant player. If Al’s accountants we able to do all this when they were 17 million over BEFORE any of this started, then I say more power to them and they are earning their $.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:57 am
382.J Hill Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Add a year?
I would think the player would balk at adding another year w/o adding more $.
Routt does have an option 3rd year, I think you’re right about that.
3 years 30 million turned into 4 years 30 million by adding another year?
You really think a player would sign off on that?
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Seymour definitely would, because he wont play the extra year of the deal. Routt likely would too because ’signing’ bonus money is paid up front, just the cap charge is prorated. So it would work out for him now, and if he outperforms the contract then he will get reupped anyways.
August 4th, 2011 at 7:58 am
JHill. That’s a damned shame that we didn’t want Miller or Miller back…two of our 3 Probowl players…
August 4th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Rob Ryan was the Patriots ILB coach (2000-2003
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Yeah and can you tell me anything about those ‘outstanding’ ILBs, other than they had them?
August 4th, 2011 at 8:00 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
To get under the cap, the Raiders will have a restructure contracts of Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt and others. They are $15.2Mil over
34 minutes ago
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
The Giants are at the cap so they can move quicker in getting a Kevin Boss deal done, but the Raiders are after him.
32 minutes ago
August 4th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Oh, I see that’s already in there.
yeah, the top 6 salaries on the team HAVE to be restructured.
Somebody posted the list earlier but the following guys for sure need to:
Dick Seymour 15 mil, DMC 7, Carlisle 2.5, Hiram too much, Stan Routt 10 mil., Shane 4 mil, Jano 2.5
August 4th, 2011 at 8:04 am
b@uce
Getting excited to be in the coliseum one week from today!
Will I see you in lot D?
I usually hang out with the guys in Cliff’s Corner they are also in lot D.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:10 am
LA to TheBay Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Oh, I see that’s already in there.
yeah, the top 6 salaries on the team HAVE to be restructured.
Somebody posted the list earlier but the following guys for sure need to:
Dick Seymour 15 mil, DMC 7, Carlisle 2.5, Hiram too much, Stan Routt 10 mil., Shane 4 mil, Jano 2.5
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I’d happily take 1/5 of any of those salaries. Damn, football players make A LOT of money. I know Im stating the obvious, but sh#t, 4 mil a year to kick a ball in the air. Crazy. Thats not a knock on Lechler, awesome punter, but that is an enormous amount of money for the player with the LEAST strenuous job on the roster.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:12 am
It’s all about supply and demand when you pay a punter $4 mil.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:13 am
@ClaytonESPN John Clayton
To get under the cap, the Raiders will have a restructure contracts of Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt and others. They are $15.2Mil over
August 4th, 2011 at 8:14 am
388.raiderzmaverick Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:58 am
JHill. That’s a damned shame that we didn’t want Miller or Miller back…two of our 3 Probowl players…
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A wise man once told me that there a 3 side to every story.
I disagree that the Raiders didn’t want those 2 players back. They may not have wanted them back “at any cost”, but I do believe that offers were made.
How do you think the talks between the Raiders and Nnamdi’s agent went once his contract voided for 16 milion? How much do you think Nnamdi’s agent wanted for him to stay here? I’d wager than Condon started the bidding at 16 million per year. If Al was expecting to pay Nnamdi 16 million this year anyway, you don’t think he would have paid him what Philly did? Good chance Condon held firm at his number and Al moved on.
Same with Miller. He even admits that the Raiders were negotiating with him before the lockout, and made an offer before he signed with Seattle.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:19 am
I saw yoooouuuu
walkin in the Raiiiinnn
you were hoooldin hands and I’ll
never been the same!
You was wit da JUICE!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
August 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Nnamdi’s agent is Ben Dogra
August 4th, 2011 at 8:29 am
I thought Nnamdi switched to Condon a couple of years ago? I could be wrong…
August 4th, 2011 at 8:30 am
JHill…Walking in the Rain? LOL…
August 4th, 2011 at 8:31 am
RRS
Yesterday Maverick was able to join. I will email the fantasy football people and inquire about the error message.
You still have a spot.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:31 am
He must work for Tom Condon.
Condon had Nnamdi and Cromartie in his stable, per NFLN.
Had the market “cornerned” they said.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Condon held firm at his number and Al moved on.
Same with Miller. He even admits that the Raiders were negotiating with him before the lockout, and made an offer before he signed with Seattle.
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You don’t disrespect AD. The players might not have but the agents probably did with their demands. Just like Gallery.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:34 am
guest123 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:12 am
It’s all about supply and demand when you pay a punter $4 mil.
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Youre absolutely right. Guess I was just looking at it from a “non-football” perspective, for just a second.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Condon and Dogra are both with CAA.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Dell!
nice 2C you
if there are any openings let me know.I dont know if I played in your league or not.I know I played in 408’s league and someone’s
August 4th, 2011 at 8:36 am
bcz24 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Nnamdi’s agent is Ben Dogra
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CAA is strong arming the league, period. Dogra and Condon. Its sickening, in theory, but business is business.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Dell good to see you hope you join!
August 4th, 2011 at 8:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:42 am
You a lucky man Realist Dirty Raccoon!
Are you taking any family whiskey?
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You know it bro! Pappys Corn Squezins!
We gonna tap a Barrell in September that has been “rested” or aged if you will, for 5 years.
It is a 100% Corn batch. 25 Gallons.
I may have to name this batch “The Purpple Berry” in honnor of the good Bau ce Br ien!
August 4th, 2011 at 8:49 am
You don’t disrespect AD. The players might not have but the agents probably did with their demands. Just like Gallery.
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Their demands were obviously not more rediculous than Seymour or Routt. If he had “negotiated” that means he would have talked the agents down to a range that would be commensurate to the demand and their production.
Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case and we paid Routt as much as Nnamdi is being paid to play elsewhere.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Maybe you just did name it D-Rac!…
Pappy’s Corn Squezin’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Purpple Berry in honor of Br ien is great 2!
August 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I wonder how Routt and Seymour will take to their contracts being restructured while the ink is still wet…
August 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Hmmmm. I like it.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:58 am
414.YoungAmerican Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I wonder how Routt and Seymour will take to their contracts being restructured while the ink is still wet…
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These guys dont care, restructuring just makes current and future salary into ’signing bonus’ that they get immediately and we get to prorate over the life of the contract, reducing the cap hit.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Maybe Northern Lights… Lmao
August 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Seymour for example has something like a 15 million cap # right now, but if we change that from salary to signing bonus his that 15 million gets spread out over the life of the contract 5 mill a year. Your mortgaging future years, but on the same token we will have a higher cap next year, AND will be out from under the 24 million dead money we are facing.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raiders made conscious choicer to retain own players, for better or worse. Truth on Miller _ Al Davis didn’t value him like Hue, and others
3 minutes ago » Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Panic in the streets! Raiders 15 mil over! Seen this act before . . . cap had NOTHING to do with losing Zach Miller.
4 minutes ago
August 4th, 2011 at 9:03 am
years ago when they came out with Northern Lights x 5 Haze,I purchased a bunch at $110 for 10!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:03 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Expect Richard Seymour to redo his contract _$15 million base _ and save the Raiders $11.2 million of cap room.
1 min ago
August 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Eli stated that he’s been in contact with Boss and pushing for his return. He said hopefully Boss could be signed (in NY) as soon as he returns from oak thur.
If Boss leaves Oak today without a contract he’s gone!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Yeah, I don’t think getting under the cap will be a problem. At least Routt and Seymour already have their long term deals, unlike with Wimbley where his needed to be sorted out still.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
According to Jerry, if they want Boss and he/his agent like the deal, cap shouldn’t prevent.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Lets get him in here!!! Boss man!
That would be awesome and I’d feel better about losing Miller. And everybody knows that I need to feel better.
Go Get Him Al!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Where is the foresight though? Seymour and Routt JUST signed a few months ago. I mean the CBA details were uncertain but expect for the best and plan for the worst (a cap and 4 years of accrued service making you an UFA).
August 4th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Was under impression yesterday Boss far from a sure thing. Raiders could get him if price is right. He won’t be big-money priority.
35 seconds ago
August 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
@Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Was under impression yesterday Boss far from a sure thing. Raiders could get him if price is right. He won’t be big-money priority.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
haha LA…
August 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Jeeze!! Everytime I try to make a ballon some one poops it!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Schefter seems to think there is a very high probability we sign him.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Al Davis pays “his guys.” Zach Miller wasn’t one of “his guys.” Not fast enough. Was talked into drafting him.
Is Boss faster than ZM? safe to assume that Ausberry definitely has a chance to start?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:16 am
sorry 2 hear that Raiderbuck
August 4th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Obviously the front office has been doing things backasswards for a long time but this offseason has been tough.
Seems like Nnam, Gallery, and Zm were gonna bounce regardless but you gotta wonder if the cap thing has prevented us from landing any other FAs.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Dell,
there went try #3
“There was a problem
There is not room in this league if all teams from last year return. To join, get the commissioner to increase the maximum number of teams, or remove teams that will not be returning. (Error #638)”
Thanks for looking into this …
August 4th, 2011 at 9:17 am
We should Trade Heyward Bey to Denver for a nickel and a handful of candy so Tebow has somebody to sit next to him on the bench.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Moore fought through tight coverage by Routt on a deep pattern, regained his balance and hauled in a long pass from Campbell that was right on the mark.
A few plays later, Moore cut in toward the middle of the field and snared a laser from Campbell, with Routt trailing the play. He added a short reception later in practice.
“Denarius Moore is like another Jacoby,” Campbell said. “He’s like one of those those guys that you pick up late in the draft, and you wonder, ‘How did this guy fall?’ He’s so talented, he’s so athletic. When you see Jacoby, it’s kind of like you have to do a double-glimpse, make sure it’s him or 17.
“The guy’s playing hard. He runs hard in practice, he has that factor, some things you just can’t coach, he has about him. He’s a guy that can add a lot to our offense this year and what we do.”
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This is going to be sweet!!!! Moore , ford, chaz,& JC look like they have something cooking early. When was the last time we read about raider qb or a raider wr looking good?
Unlike last year the timing will be in synch from the beginning. DHB better find a way to get on the field for practice because all of a sudden there is a dog fight in that group.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:19 am
#436 he he
August 4th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Only 7 days til pre season begins
August 4th, 2011 at 9:20 am
gotta wonder if the cap thing has prevented us from landing any other FAs.
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Didn’t stop them from handing out a ton of money to Huff. Nor did it stop them from giving $1.7 million to Heyer. Or bringing back Satele. Or signing Smalley.
Al has just become a lot more conservative in FA. Thinks his homegrown guys can get it done. Values loyalty, and guys he views as “classic Raiders” more than production or talent.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:21 am
#437 – or maybe we should be concerned that our new #1 CB got burned twice by a green rookie WR. I hope not.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:22 am
r8eray Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:16 am
89052, do you know it they are showing the games locally during preseason?
Yes channel 21
August 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I gotta admit, I’m warming up to the O-Line I was so critical of the past 6 months.
Tackle: Veldheer, Barnes, Barksdale, Heyer
Guard: Loper, Carlisle, Smiley, Campbell (PUP)
Center: Wisniewski, Satele
Camp fodder: Eliades, Habben, Lamaak, Parsons, Pelc, Schuening & Wand
I don’t think Gallery, Walker & Henderson will be missed … props to Jhill for keeping the faith!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Wow, if after acheiving pro-bowl status, Al still isn’t convinced about Zach Miller is one of his “guys” because he doesn’t fit the speed/size profile, then there is no reasoning that is effective to get through to his addled mind.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
mornin’ folks
off the top of your collective minds, name the tight ends of the past ten super bowl champs and their indispensible contributions to those championship victories.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:27 am
CB 2011
August 4th, 2011 at 9:28 am
dont 4get the Road Grader Walker….
on the 3 yard line or closer,even my 53 year old azz could waltz into the end zone behind the Road Grader!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:28 am
maybe we should be concerned that our new #1 CB got burned twice by a green rookie WR
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JWB,
Routt & CJ37 are going to have games like that. They lack consistency, like the rest of the team …
Both could play lights out, one great and the other lousy or both burnt toast. It differs from week to week, regardless of who the QB is we’re facing. We could completely shut down Rivers & Manning and then make guys like Vince Young & Alex Smith look like Warren Moon & Joe Montana a few weeks later!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Morning M Lonetree!
Cascades eh?
right on!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I gotta admit, I’m warming up to the O-Line I was so critical of the past 6 months.
Tackle: Veldheer, Barnes, Barksdale, Heyer
Guard: Loper, Carlisle, Smiley, Campbell (PUP)
Center: Wisniewski, Satele
Camp fodder: Eliades, Habben, Lamaak, Parsons, Pelc, Schuening & Wand
I don’t think Gallery, Walker & Henderson will be missed … props to Jhill for keeping the faith!
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Great minds think alike!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
# Just Win Baby Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:21 am
#437 – or maybe we should be concerned that our new #1 CB got burned twice by a green rookie WR. I hope not.
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I wouldnt worry too much about routt, he proved to be a very good cover corner last year. I believe this kid moore is just that kind of talent. I believe in Hu jack and saunders, and thier ability to identify talent at that position. Hell even eddie kennison was a good player under saunders, and moore is far more talented than kennison.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am
We could completely shut down Rivers & Manning and then make guys like Vince Young & Alex Smith look like Warren Moon & Joe Montana a few weeks later!
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that’s the part that is maddening. playing down to the competition.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am
YA, I think the Huff deal was actually pretty cap friendly. Would have to go back and look at those numbers but this year’s hit isn’t big at all.
But overall, I would agree. Al doesn’t seem to be interested in making a splash with other teams’ guys unless they come at a bargain.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Having said what I said about the O-Line, I would still like to sign vet guard Brian Waters … especially with BCamp injured and Loper unknown as a 16 game NFL starter
August 4th, 2011 at 9:32 am
I’m not too worried about a fast rookie WR burning Route twice in 7 on 7 drills with no pass rush. The WR should beat the D at least 80% of the time in those situations.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:33 am
ooooops we got rid of da Road Grader?
I would “pay’ attention if I had extra scratch
August 4th, 2011 at 9:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I gotta admit, I’m warming up to the O-Line I was so critical of the past 6 months.
Tackle: Veldheer, Barnes, Barksdale, Heyer
Guard: Loper, Carlisle, Smiley, Campbell (PUP)
Center: Wisniewski, Satele
Camp fodder: Eliades, Habben, Lamaak, Parsons, Pelc, Schuening & Wand
I don’t think Gallery, Walker & Henderson will be missed … props to Jhill for keeping the faith!
I am definitely more sold also, particularly on Barksdale. Maybe this Moore kid is just that good. He likely would have been a higher pick had he not played the past two years in utter turmoil at UT. Only NCAA receiver with two 200 yrd games…Finally a receiver that actually produced on the field in college.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:37 am
NO BLACKOUTS 2011
August 4th, 2011 at 9:37 am
BCZ,
I’ve been thinking about what you said the other day about only the Top 51 players counting towards the salary cap that must be fixed by today …
who are they?
Off the top of my head, I would count:
1 Jason Campbell
2 Darren McFadden
3 Michael Bush
4 DHB
5 Cooper Carlisle
6 Tommy Kelly
7 Richard Seymour
8 John Henderson
9 Rolando McClain
10 Kam WImbley
11 Stan Routt
12 Mike Huff
13 CJ37
14 Seabass
15 Lechler
everybody else is on a rookie contract (2nd round or below) or signed for $1 million or less, right?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Rockstar – I agree with your O-Line roster except that I think Schuening may push out either Carlisle or Smiley. Schuening has had some good mentions in camp notes and is a developing talent (and cheap). Carlisle is aging and not really a system-fit. Smiley was rubbish last season and needs to rediscover some form.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Tim Tebow is only due $1.6 million (salary) this season.
what are we paying Kyle Boller again?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:42 am
445.M Lonetree Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
mornin’ folks
off the top of your collective minds, name the tight ends of the past ten super bowl champs and their indispensible contributions to those championship victories.
++++++++++++++++
You are alive!
I was getting worried.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Smiley was rubbish last season and needs to rediscover some form.
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Scottish,
Smiley was injured last year, but it’s telling that we’re his third NFL team in the last 3 years!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Boller gets $1.25m. Nothing published for Edwards.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Smiley was rubbish before he got injured. A spent force?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:46 am
re-work the contracts for Seymour, Kelly, Routt & DHB
cut Boller, Eugene & Bennett.
sign Boss, Waters, Housh
under the cap? you know it …
Playoffs, baby!
August 4th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Boss is probably just using Al as leverage to get more money from the Giants.
Sign Bo Scaife. Older, but capable.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Boss is probably just using Al as leverage to get more money from the Giants.
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Agreed
sign both Scaife & Crumpler.
If they get beat out by Myers, Gordon & Ausberry? cut’em! they aren’t going to get guaranteed money anyway
August 4th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Scaife’s a FA? much better receiver, but not as good a blocker as Boss.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
dunno about Crumpler. He seems ancient.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:51 am
RRS
Maverick joined last night, or yesterday and had no isues.
I’m still working on it, my toughest task so far this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Funny, I always thought Kevin Boss was a black dude….guess I don’t watch a lot of Giants games…
August 4th, 2011 at 9:52 am
1 Jason Campbell – 4 mill?
2 Darren McFadden – 4 mill?
3 Michael Bush – 3.25 mil
4 DHB – 8.5 mill
5 Cooper Carlisle – 2 mill
6 Richard Seymour – 15 million
7 John Henderson – 2 mill
8 Kam WImbley – 5.38 mill
9 Stan Routt – 10 mill
10 Mike Huff – 895,000 (They structured it to take no cap hit this year)
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Just these 10 guys alone eat up half the cap as it stands, There are currently 62 other guys on the roster + the 24 million in dead money…
August 4th, 2011 at 9:52 am
dunno about Crumpler. He seems ancient.
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He turns 34 this year and hasn’t made the Pro Bowl since 2006
would give us some much needed leadership & professionalism though. somebody to mentor the young cats at TE
August 4th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Hey Rockstar – you’d make a reasonable GM.
I suspect/trust/hope that the Raiders have already restructured some/all of the DHD, McFadden, Seymour, Routt contracts. They always knew (should have known that the cap would shrink) and that the trick was going to be switching from annual salaries to more cap friendly bonus structures.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Bennett only makes vet minimum and for cap purposes doesnt count. We need him to take the camp load off of our rb’s
August 4th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Crumpler just had his knee scoped in June
August 4th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Dakota,
yep, a bit older and not unscathed, nonetheless still kickin’.
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4Eva,
Cascades were mostly still snowbound so that limited somewhat where to roam. Anyway, good to get away from electricity for the time.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:55 am
I’m still working on it, my toughest task so far this year
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Dell,
I think it is because I cancelled my old e-mail addy (raiderrockstar@sbcglobal.net) and you invited me back under that screen name. Now it says there isn’t room. I’m the same guy but yahoo doesn’t know that. Can last year’s RRS be un-invited or something?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
RRS
Sent email to Yahoo, awaiting answer.
You may have to change your mngr name or team name.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Dakota,
Will you be my co-comissioner in the league?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders notes: Rumor of the day . . . Mario Henderson too out of shape to get 1.7 million deal. So Stephon Heyer got it instead.
11 hours ago
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Wow! Can you imagine losing $1.7m because you ate too much. How do you explain that to your family.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am
RRS
I have a spot for you, don’t worry we will figure this out.
August 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Hey Rockstar – you’d make a reasonable GM
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thanks Scottish!
Dell knows this. That’s why he won’t let me in his FFL
he hears the footsteps
August 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Vittorio Tafur
#Raiders Bruce Campbell says knee getting better, should return to practice soon but has no idea if it’s RG or RT
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How did he injure his knee?
August 4th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Mario has an eating disorder.
He can’t stop eating.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:00 am
481.Raider Dell Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Dakota,
Will you be my co-comissioner in the league?
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Inviting the fox into the hen house. lol
August 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Bennett only makes vet minimum and for cap purposes doesnt count. We need him to take the camp load off of our rb’s
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BCZ,
let Rankin, Cartwright & Tonga take the beating!
shoot. Isn’t Nick Miller even getting some reps at RB?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
The Giants reported the other day a contract was on the table for Boss and the ball is now in his court. Now they don’t have anybody worth squat at TE, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they cave in and pay him more than what we offer.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
DHB must be a bit vulnerable. Can’t see Raiders taking six WRs and the pecking order must be:
1) Ford
2) Schillens
3) Murphy
4) DHB
5) Moore
6) N Miller
If the Raiders have also been checking out some Vets – that must make DHB very insecure. Even at 4th choice, he is scarily expensive. At 5th, unjustifiable.
Suspect he has been told to restructure or else.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.
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Bad draft huh?
They better keep Bush, unless some desperate team wants to give up a 1st rounder for him, which I doubt.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
You may have to change your mngr name or team name
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Dell,
I’ve got no probs with that.
are you still the finance guru?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Funny, I always thought Kevin Boss was a black dude….
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LOL!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:03 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:00 am
481.Raider Dell Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Dakota,
Will you be my co-comissioner in the league?
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Inviting the fox into the hen house. lol
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yes!!! And he is a laker fox that’s why I trust him.
He will just dribble away and be soft.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Trust me fellas, we don’t want any part of Crumpler….Dude has morphed into a slobby no catching, fumbling mess the past 3 years. I’ve seen a lot of Titan games being a big CJ fan and I can assure you, dude is a bum.
Scaife is cool “HANDS WISE ONLY” if we miss out on Boss. His blocking is pretty mediocre though, if not, bad; hence, why they’re letting him go…
August 4th, 2011 at 10:03 am
M Lonetree Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Dakota,
yep, a bit older and not unscathed, nonetheless still kickin’.
+++++++++++++++++
Very very glad to see you back. Thought maybe you found a nice perch in Glacier National Park and decided to wait for Mother Earth to take you back into her waiting arms.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Again bennett doesnt count towards the cap at the vet minimum salary. Why cut him now?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
RRS
Changed team name to silver n black, these days no one is a financial guru.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Dakota,
Will you be my co-comissioner in the league?
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Dell,
you know he’s going to swoop in and steal McFadden from whatever team that drafts him!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
481.Raider Dell Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Dakota,
Will you be my co-comissioner in the league?
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Sure….wait, what does it pay?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:06 am
he is a laker fox that’s why I trust him.
He will just dribble away and be soft
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LOL!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Dakota,
Based on current martket conditions, let’s say a bag of snickers.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Mario must hang out with McKinnie. Vikings cut him for being close to 400 lbs. Ended season at 360. Must have hired JaLosers trainers.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:07 am
J Hill Says:
Funny, I always thought Kevin Boss was a black dude….
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LOL!
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You’re thinking of Slim Thug – “The Boss”
August 4th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Didnt we just redo Wimbley’s contract?? How are we still $12m over the cap?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:09 am
who is Eddie Anderson babysitting this offseason?
did he get “promoted” to ticket sales?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
4 DHB – 8.5 mill
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Dakota says that DHB is only 1.8 this year due to him taking 20 million last year in an uncapped year.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
LMBO Mario you are a loser!!!! How do you fail your physical? Out of shape? After the summer of foolishness you had man you should have been in top shape!
*Fox Sports’ Adam Caplan reported that the Raiders were prepared to pay former Raiders offensive tackle Mario Henderson $1.7 million. That went out the window when Henderson failed his physical. The Raiders turned around and gave that money to veteran offensive tackle Stephon Heyer, Caplan said.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
502.Raider Dell Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Dakota,
Based on current martket conditions, let’s say a bag of snickers.
__________________
Make it Kit Kats and we have a deal. What are my responsibilities other than placating the cry babies?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I guess Mario will get a job as a Seahawk as well.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
89052RAIDER Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I gotta admit, I’m warming up to the O-Line I was so critical of the past 6 months.
Tackle: Veldheer, Barnes, Barksdale, Heyer
Guard: Loper, Carlisle, Smiley, Campbell (PUP)
Center: Wisniewski, Satele
Camp fodder: Eliades, Habben, Lamaak, Parsons, Pelc, Schuening & Wand
I don’t think Gallery, Walker & Henderson will be missed … props to Jhill for keeping the faith!
I am definitely more sold also, particularly on Barksdale. Maybe this Moore kid is just that good. He likely would have been a higher pick had he not played the past two years in utter turmoil at UT. Only NCAA receiver with two 200 yrd games…Finally a receiver that actually produced on the field in college.
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Don’t sleep on Sheuing
August 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Seymour is restructuring right now which frees up 11 mill in space. A few more guys do the same and we have ourselves a new TE
August 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
*******Johnnie Lee with the Eagles********
I had no idea Johnnie Lee Higgins was with the Eagles.
He has not been the same since Russel set him up with the high pass and got him blasted!
I guess he once to ride the bench and get a Superbowl ring as well.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Raidertay – because the media are guessing about how the big contracts (Seymour, Routt, etc.) are structured – and calculating the worst scenario – because it makes easy headlines. Truth is that the Raiders rarely publish all contractual data and enjoy seeing Clayton et al guess badly.
As Jerry McD says, no reason to panic, the Raiders always find a way to pay what they need.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Anybody know if Heyer is any good??? Do you think he will start over Barksdale?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82139f52/article/ankle-tweak-will-force-jets-wr-burress-to-miss-practice-time?module=HP11_headline_stack
That didn’t take long….. you’d think his ankles would be stronger from bending over and grabbing them in the pen…
August 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Dakota,
as a matter of fact sitting down ‘neath a tree next a stream seems the pinnacle of it all. it worked for Gautama. ah, the supramundane.
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RaiderDell,
how has the life been treating you?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Campbell began that process in the offseason during the lockout. He played a big role organizing offseason workouts during the lockout and even had receivers Louis Murphy, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Jacoby Ford stay with him in the Washington D.C. area for extra side work.
The three receivers crashed on Campbell’s couch in the basement, ate his fiancé’s cooking and kept him up all night. But the week of workouts also helped build up chemistry with players who will be crucial to Oakland’s success this season and show his knowledge of the offense.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/07/28/sports/s185726D42.DTL#ixzz1U55KfnGj
August 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.
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Chalk that down as another chitty draft huh?
They better keep Bush, unless some desperate team wants to give up a 1st rounder for him, which I doubt.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
raidertay Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Anybody know if Heyer is any good??? Do you think he will start over Barksdale?
Hue said Barks is in the lead and since he’s a rookie he’ll only get better so I’m guessing he’ll start
August 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
DHB should have been restructured or cut. 15 mil for Seymour is WAY too high he only shows up for 3 games a year.
23 mil in waste, wheres AL’s debt ceiling limit? Maybe pres purp lips and his band of libtard economist are running things into the ground in the WH & Oakland!
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DHB – 8.5 mill
Richard Seymour – 15 million
August 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Expect Richard Seymour to redo his contract _$15 million base _ and save the Raiders $11.2 million of cap room.
1 hour ago
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
The Giants are at the cap so they can move quicker in getting a Kevin Boss deal done, but the Raiders are after him.
2 hours ago
August 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
….cap had NOTHING to do with losing Zach Miller.
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Jerry Mac more trusted than Uncle Johnnie.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Old man Al better sign Hey Boss or the offense will struggle.
Can’t rely on Myers and a 6th and 7th round pick pair of rookies do get the job done, day in and day out.
They need to sign Kevin “Hey” Boss like NOW!!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
513.CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
*******Johnnie Lee with the Eagles********
I had no idea Johnnie Lee Higgins was with the Eagles.
He has not been the same since Russel set him up with the high pass and got him blasted!
I guess he once to ride the bench and get a Superbowl ring as well.
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I think JLH could actually be pretty dangerous in that system… hes fast as hell and Vick as a cannon
August 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Well I am sold on Moore already and Ford. DHB and Murphy can take a seat at the bench. CHaz, Moore and Ford are my starting WRs.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Yeah, Al likes TEs with hands of stone, but who can run really fast, so Miller didn’t fit the mold.
Hey, is Rickey Dudley a free agent?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Al Davis pays “his guys.” Zach Miller wasn’t one of “his guys.” Not fast enough. Was talked into drafting him.
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Uncle Johnnie needs to add Jerry Mac to his twitter followers.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
525.bcz24 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
513.CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
*******Johnnie Lee with the Eagles********
I had no idea Johnnie Lee Higgins was with the Eagles.
He has not been the same since Russel set him up with the high pass and got him blasted!
I guess he once to ride the bench and get a Superbowl ring as well.
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I think JLH could actually be pretty dangerous in that system… hes fast as hell and Vick as a cannon
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In all honesty you may be right!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
522.raidertay Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Expect Richard Seymour to redo his contract _$15 million base _ and save the Raiders $11.2 million of cap room.
1 hour ago
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
The Giants are at the cap so they can move quicker in getting a Kevin Boss deal done, but the Raiders are after him.
2 hours ago
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I’m expecting the worst, and old man Al and his “management” team will blow it and lose out on signing Hey Boss!
Please prove me wrong old man Al!
Dammit!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Rickey Dudley Mr Basketball himself. How can a guy be a stand out b-ball player in HS almost played at OSU and can not catch to save his life. WTF?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
It was sad to see JLH decline after a very good 2007 or 2008 season, I can’t remember which. Never the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but he had skills.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
530.DKnight007 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
522.raidertay Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Expect Richard Seymour to redo his contract _$15 million base _ and save the Raiders $11.2 million of cap room.
1 hour ago
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
The Giants are at the cap so they can move quicker in getting a Kevin Boss deal done, but the Raiders are after him.
2 hours ago
^^^^^^^^
I’m expecting the worst, and old man Al and his “management” team will blow it and lose out on signing Hey Boss!
Please prove me wrong old man Al!
Dammit!!!
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DKnight LMAO!!!! I was thinking the same thing you just blogged it quicker!!! How did Al not go bancrupt years ago. He is terrible with the check book.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Why do we have to sign the former Giants 5th round pick to get the job done instead of giving our own late round guy a chance?
Or why can’t we let J Ford run those underneath routes that Miller used to run?
We have options guys!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:26 am
One would have figured the Raiders would have restructured Seymours contract awhile ago to free up more cap room?
Who is the old man Al’s capologist….someone who worked for the Bush Administration??
Whoever he or she is, they SUCK and are behind the 8ball!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
532.Dakota Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
It was sad to see JLH decline after a very good 2007 or 2008 season, I can’t remember which. Never the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but he had skills.
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No doubt, those hits he took during the Russell era killed this kids confidence.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
“I’m expecting the worst, and old man Al and his “management” team…”
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Management team? You mean the container of KFC Slaw, pack of non-filtered Camels and bag of McDonald’s Cheeseburgers sitting on his desk?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
HGH blood testing THIS season…..lol….by October the NFL players will have lost a collective 32,000 lbs of muscle.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
mmmm….Jackson and Higgins,even sounds fast
August 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
J Hill Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Why do we have to sign the former Giants 5th round pick to get the job done instead of giving our own late round guy a chance?
Or why can’t we let J Ford run those underneath routes that Miller used to run?
We have options guys
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Now your saying why do we need a vet TE like Boss on the team?? I thought you were one of the many goofs who said it won’t be a big deal losing Miller, since we can sign Boss?
You seriously want to rely on Myers and two rookies who were drafted in the 6th and 7th rounds to get the job done right day in and day out at TE?
Hey Boss has championship experience, is still young, and can block better than any TE currently on the Raiders roster!
Plus he can run routes and catch the ball in critical situations.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
534.J Hill Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Why do we have to sign the former Giants 5th round pick to get the job done instead of giving our own late round guy a chance?
Or why can’t we let J Ford run those underneath routes that Miller used to run?
We have options guys!
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Nah…We need a TE that can run those boot drags/ under neath routes to free up the RBs out the backfield. We will always be a verticle team and Ford has to run those deep routes.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
You really think the Raiders would have Boss in and not have the ability to sign him?
You can’t be serious with that.
Do you think we should do “what ever it takes” to get Boss? Should we give him around what Zach got from Seattle?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Don’t forget Herrera was a car salesman. Knows how to move money around. lol
August 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Plus, we have plays designed for Miller in the playbook. We need Boss to take over Miller’s role.
Heck he may end up doing a better job.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
We will always be a verticle team and Ford has to run those deep routes.
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I hope you’re wrong about that.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
542.J Hill Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
You really think the Raiders would have Boss in and not have the ability to sign him?
You can’t be serious with that.
Do you think we should do “what ever it takes” to get Boss? Should we give him around what Zach got from Seattle?
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Jhill still doesn’t get it…..the Raiders can sign anyone they want and be over the cap until the league year begins….which has not happened yet. They certainly had the ability to sign Boss yesterday, and then make moves to get under the cap by the deadline today.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Speaking of HGH withdrawal, Tiger Woods tees off in 5 minutes. lol
August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ausberry can do the job but alot to ask of a rookie converting to tight end so until he get’s there Boss would make JCampbell alot more comfortable having a 6′6 250 receiver out there
August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
MEDIA REPORTING DARREN McFADDEN HAS ASKED TO BE TRADED!! HOW FUNNY IS THAT MR.DAVIS!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:34 am
549.dvrick Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
MEDIA REPORTING DARREN McFADDEN HAS ASKED TO BE TRADED!! HOW FUNNY IS THAT MR.DAVIS!!!
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STFU you almost gave me a heart attack.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I thought you were one of the many goofs who said it won’t be a big deal losing Miller, since we can sign Boss?
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No, that was some other goof.
“since we can sign Boss” had nothing to do with me thinking we didn’t need to overpay Miller.
Like Miller, I think Boss should be signed if he agrees to a reasonable deal. I would bot overpay to get him in here.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Dakota Says:
It was sad to see JLH decline after a very good 2007 or 2008 season, I can’t remember which. Never the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but he had skills.
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Everytime they showed his picture on the screen during the games, I laughed like hell — looked like Tyrone Biggums.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.footballnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/johnnie_lee_higgins.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/eagles-raid-raiders-of-more-than-just-nnamdi-asomugha-johnnie-lee-higgins-flies-east/&usg=__vNf8StKPgQXOOIK_rwQtkkiCUs8=&h=341&w=512&sz=16&hl=en&start=54&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=7EiOu57Ab2iSWM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=131&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djohnnie%2Blee%2Bhiggins%26start%3D40%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1259%26bih%3D845%26ndsp%3D20%26tbm%3Disch&ei=SNg6Tq2MEMXLgQew-ZjPBg
August 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Dakota just fainted
August 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Dakota is a capologist.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
549.dvrick Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
MEDIA REPORTING DARREN McFADDEN HAS ASKED TO BE TRADED!! HOW FUNNY IS THAT MR.DAVIS!!!
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MEDIA REPORTING THAT TIM TEBOW GAVE PHILLIP RIVERS A DIRTY SANCHEZ DURING THE LOCKOUT!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
I think routte has plenty of time to work on his game, this guy has a lot of potential, and this is his time to shine and break the rust. He its not like d’hall, bucannon, f. washington who just banked on AD then played like $hit. I will sure miss those hits from namdi though, he was a damn good tackling corner unfortunately routte is not but that’s why we got the best safety arsenal EASY!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Boo Hoo! Chad Henne says he has hurt feeling when Miami Fans chant for Orton. Will be out of the NFL soon. P-ssy!!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Notre Dame is ranked 18th in the preseason coaches poll?
Michigan isn’t ranked…..lol.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Dakota, Don’t forget to add him to the Hater’s list.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Will do Exla
August 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Raiders made conscious choicer to retain own players, for better or worse. Truth on Miller _ Al Davis didn’t value him like Hue, and others
3 minutes ago » Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
Panic in the streets! Raiders 15 mil over! Seen this act before . . . cap had NOTHING to do with losing Zach Miller.
4 minutes ago
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Jerry is delusional if he thinks salary cap restraints don’t effect a club’s ability to sign or retain players.
Think the Raids might be interested in signing Boss or another FA ?
Then why aren’t they doing so ?
It’s not bcz Davis is cheap.
Without a cap, Davis would probably have one of the highest payrolls in the NFL, despite the fact that the Raids have less operating income than many other NFL teams.
He’d sign any and every player he could to get that 4th Lombardi.
He can’t do that this year. He has to operate and make considerations to stay within the cap.
Jerry Mac would like you to believe the cap has no bearing on which players the Raids are able to sign and retain.
Jerry Mac is wrong.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:44 am
the Raiders can sign anyone they want and be over the cap until the league year begins
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Ok, Dakota.
I’ll just sit back and see what happends today, since the league year begins today.
You’ve avoided all the key points in your responses I see.
We were 17 million over BEFORE all this mess started and all we’ve done is restructure Wimbley, right.
So 17 million before, a bunch of signings later (and no cuts) we have to be over the cap MORE NOW than we were before we started signing guys, right?
RIGHT!!!!?????!!!
Ok, I’ll go with you and Uncle Johnnie and look for us to make 30 million dollars worth of cap adjustments by EOD.
I’m not buying that we restructured Seymour’s 2 year 30 million dollar contract. We are going to save 11 million off his cap this year by moving it to next year? And what, have him count 26 million against the cap next year?
That doesn’t make sense to anyone other than those trying to make a few cole slaw jokes.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Chad Henne says he has hurt feeling when Miami Fans chant for Orton
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Exla,
I’d laugh if this clown got beat out by Matt Moore!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Dakota, what college did you attend?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
nooooooo
August 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
You seriously want to rely on Myers and two rookies who were drafted in the 6th and 7th rounds to get the job done right day in and day out at TE?
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I’m sure you had a few Giants fans saying that about Boss when they got rid of Shockey.
Next man up!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Are the Raiders still over the cap even after letting Nnamdi and Miller go? Unbelievable.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Miami is stupid for not getting Orton.
He would be reunited with Marshall and both of their fantasy values would go back up.
The Miami offense would be much better with Orton slinging it around.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
those must be trick questions,right?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
DEATHROW,
Nnamdi didn’t need any time to work on his game. He’s a professional. But I hope Routt gets it together.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Any body remember when dmac blasted ngata and that hog was dazed on the sideline after the collission. I heard dmac blasted groves yesterday and hue askin if wimbley wants some. Gota love it!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
566.J Hill Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
You seriously want to rely on Myers and two rookies who were drafted in the 6th and 7th rounds to get the job done right day in and day out at TE?
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I’m sure you had a few Giants fans saying that about Boss when they got rid of Shockey.
Next man up!
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I wish it was that simple, but in the grand scheme of things and in the big picture it isn’t.
Plus the Giants new Shockey was drained and off the steroids, thats why the let him go.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Good ol’ Ron Wolf used to specialize in those players that didn’t need any “time” to get ready to play in this league. They just showed up with the lumber. Al Davis seems to really like these guys who need a few years.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I agree 100% with post #561.
You think Davis dumped miller because Myers is the next Casper? lol Puhlease!
He’s strapped for cash due to overspending. The raiders have a high payroll, so if they sign Boss, i’m willing to bet that’s the last big name guy that they can sign.
If he could sign who he wants then you would have Woodson paired with Namndi, Their leading rec wouldn’t have bolted to Seattle and so on.
Davis can’t afford to make a big splash with the lower cap and higher player salaries. It’s not that he doesn’t want to keep these guys.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Al Davis strapped 4 cash??? puuuleeeeeese
August 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
McFADDEN ASKED TO BE RELEASED OR TRADED BECAUSE THEY ASKED HIM TO RESTRUCTURE IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IT I’LL GET THE LAST LAUGH AGAIN!! MILLER SIGNS WITH SEATTLE!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
RAIDER Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Good ol’ Ron Wolf used to specialize in those players that didn’t need any “time” to get ready to play in this league. They just showed up with the lumber. Al Davis seems to really like these guys who need a few years.
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This is ESPECIALLY true in the secondary!
August 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
lol. Raiderman99 thinks Al would break the bank with no salary cap to win a Super Bowl. He says this right after Al lets Nnamdi and Miller walk.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
MistaBrown Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
DHB should have been restructured or cut. 15 mil for Seymour is WAY too high he only shows up for 3 games a year.
23 mil in waste, wheres AL’s debt ceiling limit? Maybe pres purp lips and his band of libtard economist are running things into the ground in the WH & Oakland!
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DHB – 8.5 mill
Richard Seymour – 15 million
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Only thing about DHB’s 8.5 is that about 7 of that is a roster bonus, and cant be restructured. Its money hes already pocketed. Wackness.
August 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
4evaRaider,
Did Al let Nnamdi and Miller go because he’s bathing in money?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
We were 17 million over BEFORE all this mess started and all we’ve done is restructure Wimbley, right.
So 17 million before, a bunch of signings later (and no cuts) we have to be over the cap MORE NOW than we were before we started signing guys, right?
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I don’t have the numbers in front of me Jhill, but as I have said I am a little more willing to believe Schefter and Clayton’s claims than I am to believe yours.
If we were well under the cap there would have been no reason to restructure any contracts correct?
August 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/chargers-agree-to-terms-with-liuget/
August 4th, 2011 at 10:57 am
CB
August 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Namdi and his game bounced to philli since he wanted to be with a WINING organization, lol. Compared them to a girl he has been in love with and how they at perfect matches for each other. You didnt see that robot talkin fuks presser. Fk him and his cone head fro !!!!!
August 4th, 2011 at 11:01 am
MR….who cares.
maybe he got no money under the cap…but YES he is bathing in cash.His wash boy should know that
August 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
but as I have said I am a little more willing to believe Schefter and Clayton’s claims than I am to believe yours.
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What do you mean than mine?
Are you suggesting I created those websites that said we were under the cap?
Schefter is using Clayton’s number.
Why don’t you believe Jerry Mac?
Or Tafur?
August 4th, 2011 at 11:04 am
I’m sure you had a few Giants fans saying that about Boss when they got rid of Shockey.
Next man up!
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The difference is that the Giants had just won a Superbowl…
August 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
If we were well under the cap there would have been no reason to restructure any contracts correct?
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Carlisle and McFadden said they have not been asked to restructure.
Wimbley did not restructure. We negotiated a long term contract with him to get him off the Franchise Tag.
Who restructured that you can tell us about?
August 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Again, I don’t think DHB takes up that much room on our salary cap. he doesn’t have a large prorated bonus spread out over his contract because the Raiders talked him into getting his bonus last year in the uncapped season….here you go:
“DHB’s astonishing $21.4 million salary for 2010 knocks Barry Zito off his perch as the Bay Area’s most overpaid sports flop. Heyward-Bey is ranked No. 28 among all American athletes — tops in the Bay Area — whereas Zito’s paltry $18.5 million salary has him all the way down at No. 39….
…The more you look into these numbers, the less sense they make. Consider that the richest NFL player on the list, Peyton Manning at No. 9, has a 2010 salary of $15.8 million. While Manning doubles that in product endorsements, Heyward-Bey’s actual NFL salary is almost $6 million higher than Manning’s.
That’s right. A fourth receiver who caught all of nine passes last season makes $6 million more to play football than the reigning league MVP does.
I may be too charitable in calling Heyward-Bey a fourth receiver. DHB ranked tenth — tenth! — on his own team in catches.
To be fair, the Raiders do throw a lot of passes to their tight ends. But this was the 29th-ranked passing team in the NFL. Its tenth-most-productive player is simply not contributing very much.
Sports Illustrated notes that DHB’s oversize 2010 salary is the result of some unorthodox accounting. Heyward-Bey did not receive a proper signing bonus last year. But according to SI’s report, DHB receives “$20.7 million in combined option and roster bonuses” this season to make up for it.”
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Salary-Shocker-Heyward-Bey-Highest-Paid-Athlete-in-Bay-99027374.html
August 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Jhill,
You used those numbers and claimed we were well under the cap and you said you don’t buy the reports that we are over the cap. Are you ducking that?
What has Jerry Mac said about our cap other than re-signing Miller was more about not being Al’s kind of player?
And what did Tafur say?
August 4th, 2011 at 11:09 am
He’s strapped for cash due to overspending. The raiders have a high payroll, so if they sign Boss, i’m willing to bet that’s the last big name guy that they can sign.
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Strapped for cash, but still has enough to have a “big name” like Boss in for a visit?
How is that possible?
Dakota is right, I don’t get it.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Lol…Jwiggle is baaaack….
“Wimbley did not restructure. We negotiated a long term contract with him to get him off the Franchise Tag.
Who restructured that you can tell us about?”
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Wimbley signed his 1 year franchise tender, which is a contract. They restructured it to save us from an $11.3 million dollar cap hit. Argue about it all you want, but it is what it is.
“Earlier this year, Wimbley signed a one-year, $11.3 million franchise tender”
August 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I don’t know whose numbers are correct.
Don’t know if the Raids are 15 million over the cap or 5 million under.
I do know that there is a cap and teams have less than 24 hours to get under it.
Anyone that would have you believe that the cap is inconsequential in determining what players clubs are able to sign or retain, simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Jerry Mac has blogged here that the cap is ‘nonsense’ and the Raids are able to sign or retain any players Al Davis desires, regardless of cap consequences.
The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I don’t buy that he’s strapped for cash. I buy that he grants importances to the wrong factors at times and overpays up the yazoo. He is not good at negotiation and either gets the deal done because he overpaid, or he doesn’t have much competition on the person.
There’s NO WAY Routt would’ve commanded anywhere near that kind of money on the market.
And, there’s no way in hell anyone would pay DHB 8.5 mil this year. So, the option is not to pay the option bonus (basically cut him) and resign him for his 1 million. We paid him over 20 million dollars last year (more than Manning, Brees, and almost anyone else)!
August 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Jhill…
I told you that you would get caught making up phoney web-sites
August 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
You used those numbers and claimed we were well under the cap and you said you don’t buy the reports that we are over the cap. Are you ducking that?
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Those WEBSITES claimed we were 30 million under the cap.
I said I didn’t know one way or the other since it conflicted Uncle Johnnie’s claims.
You’ve stuck by UJ all this time.
Not once willing to consider that he may be a little off on his numbers.
I think I’ve asked some legit questions regarding UJs claims.
Again 17 million over before we started, a bunch of signings later AND NO CUTS, NOT ONE, and we are now 15 million?
I’m just waiting for some, any, type of transaction to confirm what UJ is saying. Carlisle being cut, DHB, Tommy Kelly. Heck, eeven a Hiram Eugene cut.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
593.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I don’t know whose numbers are correct.
Don’t know if the Raids are 15 million over the cap or 5 million under.
I do know that there is a cap and teams have less than 24 hours to get under it.
Anyone that would have you believe that the cap is inconsequential in determining what players clubs are able to sign or retain, simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Jerry Mac has blogged here that the cap is ‘nonsense’ and the Raids are able to sign or retain any players Al Davis desires, regardless of cap consequences.
The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.
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Exactly. For years Al has been massaging the cap to get his roster under the cap….we have been at the top, or withing the top five salary spots for years. This is the year it finally catches up with us.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:18 am
The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.
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Jerrys right. Look at the contract Huff signed. He is getting paid 7 million dollars this year but only counting $895,000 towards the cap.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Al Davis is a millionaire, a legend and an icon.
Dakota is an inbred hick with a 300 pound wife.
Go Raiders!
August 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Al got rid of all Lame Kiffin’s losers.
You are either a Raider or you are not.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Why isn’t a team’s cap number public information?
NFL.COM should have a link to see all the teams’ current cap positions. Then Jhill and I could get back to arguing about the Mike Brown hiring.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Lol…Jwiggle is baaaack….
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That was pretty good, huh?
I’ll say it again then.
Wimbley agreed to a 5 year contract instead of playing under the franshise tag.
Going from a 1 year contract to a 5 year contract is restructuring?
I guess you are right, technically.
I just thought those were considered extentions.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Again 17 million over before we started, a bunch of signings later AND NO CUTS, NOT ONE, and we are now 15 million?
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Well wimbley going from the franchise tag to his long term contract freed up 7 million in cap space this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Actually going from the franchise tag to a long term contract is considered a brand new contract. Not a restructure or extension.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:24 am
League year set to start at 1pm Pacific….unless the CBA isn’t ratified in time.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:26 am
The problem I have with the cap reporting has been the inconsistancies. In one week I have seen us reported anywhere from $6 million UNDER the cap to $17 million over. Im fairly certain we havent done that many meaningful deals. These guys are essentially just guessing.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:26 am
touche lol!
August 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Worrying about the CAP is not our concern. We have no impact on it whatsoever.
Worrying about the CAP is AD’s concern because he does have impact over it. Additionally, he’s the master of CAP and has been able to do whatever it takes to make it work for the Raiders.
Don’t pend tie worrying about things that you have no control over. it’s just a waste of time. We already have an expert keeping control of it now.
Next subject mater please. BTW, what’s the latest on the signing of Boss?
August 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
regardless of cap consequences
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He did not say that.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Then Jhill and I could get back to arguing about the Mike Brown hiring.
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There will be plenty of time for that.
NBA won’t be back for a while.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
The league year starts at 1pm Pacific today, but teams have until tomorrow at 1pm Pacific to be in compliance with the cap.
The reported salary floor is NOT being enforced this year.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:38 am
I don’t know how far we are over the cap, but it is pretty clear that we are in a cap pinch, otherwise we are not giving Wimbley a new deal, or extension or whatever you want to call it, which makes him a top five paid LB. And Al is not in the business of letting his home grown talent walk out the door without a fight.
And Al didn’t have some late life fiscal responsibility gene therapy. If we had the money Al would be spending it. He is 81 years old and looks 105. He knows his time is short to get ring #4….he isn’t going with a youth movement because he chooses too. Al has always favored veteran players.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Strapped for cash, but still has enough to have a “big name” like Boss in for a visit?
How is that possible?
Dakota is right, I don’t get it.
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What i mean by strapped for cash is limited to what he can pay due to the cap, just my opinion. We still haven’t made any cuts and i’m sure that will be coming soon. A lil tweaking contracts perhaps, that will free up a lil to sign Boss.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
611.bcz24 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
The league year starts at 1pm Pacific today, but teams have until tomorrow at 1pm Pacific to be in compliance with the cap.
The reported salary floor is NOT being enforced this year.
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Link?
August 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
My 2011 season tickets arrived yesterday via FedEx. I guess that’s the official signal that we are all ready for some football. I know I am!
My first 2011 prediction: Miller will be sorry he left the newly resurgent AFC-West Champs. His replacement will see a SB Ring before he does.
August 4th, 2011 at 11:46 am
bcz24 Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:18 am
The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.
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Jerrys right. Look at the contract Huff signed. He is getting paid 7 million dollars this year but only counting $895,000 towards the cap.
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Jerry is NOT right.
Huff’s contract may not have substantial cap ramifications THIS year, but the portion of his contract that is guaranteed – ultimately will.
There’s only so much finagling and creative accounting that can be done. Eventually the piper has to be paid and the cap has to be met.
This isn’t about Al Davis personally having the cash to pay players. We can debate or speculate on whether he’s solvent or not.
The fact remains that in an uncapped year, like last season – the Raids had one of, if not the highest, payroll in the NFL.
Unfortunately, there IS a cap this year. And the cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ as Jerry would have you believe. The cap most certainly DOES have consequences, and must be considered. That’s why were here talking about it. In Jerry’s fantasy world Al Davis is able to sign anyone he wants, or can perpetually restructure contracts so that the cap is never an issue. Simply NOT true, unless the cap is done away with or subtantially increased in the future.
If the Raids are indeed over the cap as has been reported, then they’re scrambling right now to get under it.
If they’re already under with additional ways to get further under, then we’ll see some signing(s).
Davis will have the Raid payroll at the very maximum the cap allows.
You’re not dealing with a team like the Bucs that had to increase payroll to meet the cap minimum.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
615.JB Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
My 2011 season tickets arrived yesterday via FedEx. I guess that’s the official signal that we are all ready for some football. I know I am!
My first 2011 prediction: Miller will be sorry he left the newly resurgent AFC-West Champs. His replacement will see a SB Ring before he does.
Hopefully mine comes in today, then…well, today or tomorrow…but if Miller’s replacement is Boss, he would have a second one before him!
August 4th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Al may look ols, bue he’s got good genes. His mom’s still alive, He’ll be around for quite some time.
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