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Raiders training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes

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Raiders head coach Hue Jackson wasn’t all smiles after practice Wednesday. There weren’t any “wows” about the tempo, the physical nature of practice or players competing as hard as they can.

No, this was the side of Jackson that the players don’t want to see. And he let them know in no uncertain terms that the way they performed at practice, especially in the latter part, won’t be tolerated.

“That wasn’t a Raider practice,” Jackson said. “I told them that. One thing I am going to always do is be very honest with my team. I took the pads off and all of a sudden we decided we wanted to take some plays down. But that’s OK. You’re going to have some of those days. That’s part of the process. They had a day off, and all of a sudden (their) bodies try to get back. They’re re-adjusting to all of this.”

*Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey practiced for the first time since training camp opened a week ago. It’s still a mystery as to why he missed the first five practices, with Heyward-Bey and Jackson evasive about the subject.

Heyward-Bey caught balls early on in practice and looked capable of doing everything that his fellow receivers were asked to do. Ultimately, Heyward-Bey sat out the latter part of practice.

Jackson said it’s part of easing him into the mix and being fearful of losing Heyward-Bey for an extended period of time. It’s the same approach Jackson is using with all his players.

That list is growing by the day. Receiver Louis Murphy, guard Cooper Carlisle, fullback James McCluskey, offensive linemen Alan Pelc and Lou (formerly Elias) Eliades joined guard Bruce Campbell, receivers Jacoby Ford and Edward McGee, cornerbacks Joe Porter and Chimdi Chekwa and running back Taiwan Jones on the sideline.

At one point, Jackson ordered his players to take off their pads as a means of ensuring that more players wouldn’t get hurt.

“We’ve got some nicks here and there, and we’re down at some positions now,” Jackson said. “We only had five linebackers. What you do is everything you can do to make sure your team finishes practice. I didn’t want all of the banging at that time, so let’s take them off and continue to get the process that we’re in. The intensity needs to be higher when we do it.”

*Fox Sports’ Adam Caplan reported that the Raiders were prepared to pay former Raiders offensive tackle Mario Henderson $1.7 million. That went out the window when Henderson failed his physical. The Raiders turned around and gave that money to veteran offensive tackle Stephon Heyer, Caplan said.

*NFL Films is missing the boat if it fails to mike up Jackson during training camp or a game.

After running back Darren McFadden stonewalled linebacker Quentin Groves during a pass-protection drill, Jackson launched into one of his classic rants in which he pumps up one side of the ball and challenges the other to meet the challenge.

“Give me some,” Jackson said to McFadden after the sequence ended. “That’s how you hit them. You want some of that (Kamerion) Wimbley?”

On it went, with Jackson goading the defenders into meeting McFadden’s intensity.

*Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell knows a good thing when he sees one. Hence, he never let tight end Zach Miller out of his sights for very long and oftentimes looked for him whenever a play broke down or the pressure got too intense last season.

Miller’s a now member of the Seattle Seahawks, and Campbell is without a security blanket until he finds someone to take Miller’s place.

“It’s a big part of our offense,” Campbell said of Miller. “He was a big target. You don’t ever just replace guys like that. You just have to throw in the young guys that we have, give them an opportunity  to get better each and every day in practice. Things take time. We’ve just got to keep pushing forward, but definitely losing him was a tough loss for this team. Congratulations to him. It’s a big signing and we have to move forward.”

Just before Campbell spoke, free agent tight end David Boss worked out on the field after practice. Campbell knows full well what Boss is capable of, having seen him twice a year when they played against each other in the NFC East from 2007-09.

“He’s a big target,” Campbell said of Boss, a member of the New York Giants the past four seasons. “He’s a big guy. But it all comes down to the coaches decision and if they feel like he fits our offense and the things that we do from that standpoint. He’s a guy, he’s big, he can run, and he’s played in tough games before, so ultimately it will probably come down to how they feel with the guys that we have here and how he fits into our offense.”

*Rookie receiver Denarius Moore is fitting in quite well in the early going. The 6-feet, 195-pounder out of Tennessee put on a clinic during practice Wednesday, with much of his damage coming against No. 1 cornerback Stanford Routt.

“Wow! You guys know I like using that term, wow,” Jackson said. “He’s a tremendous young player. He’s very talented. That young man played at Tennessee and everything he did at Tennessee he’s doing out here on our field. And when you look around, every time you look up, there’s number 17 making a play.

“And I talked to our guys, this game is about performance, and (Moore) comes out every day and he performs. The guys that are able to stay healthy and compete each and every day as well as our guys have, they’re going to have chance to play on this football team.”

Moore fought through tight coverage by Routt on a deep pattern, regained his balance and hauled in a long pass from Campbell that was right on the mark.

A few plays later, Moore cut in toward the middle of the field and snared a laser from Campbell, with Routt trailing the play. He added a short reception later in practice.

Routt shut down Moore on another deep pass, running stride for stride with Moore the entire route.

“Denarius Moore is like another Jacoby,” Campbell said. “He’s like one of those those guys that you pick up late in the draft, and you wonder, ‘How did this guy fall?’ He’s so talented, he’s so athletic. When you see Jacoby, it’s kind of like you have to do a double-glimpse, make sure it’s him or 17.

“The guy’s playing hard. He runs hard in practice, he has that factor, some things you just can’t coach, he has about him. He’s a guy that can add a lot to our offense this year and what we do.”

Moore said he is just doing what the coaches ask of him and trying to make a favorable impression whenever he gets an opportunity.

“I feel like I’m starting to get the groove of things, starting to get the plays down play by play, day by day,” Moore said.

Moore is the only collegiate player who posted two 200-yard receiving games last year, when he starred for Tennessee. It’s that kind of playmaking the Raiders are looking for from their receivers.

Playing in the Southeastern Conference helped prepare Moore for the transition to the NFL, he said.

“As far as SEC, they like to press, a whole bunch of quick corners and quick jams,” Moore said. “As soon as I get here, it’s the same thing. Once I get down with my time with the reps I should just fit right in.”

Jackson credited Moore and Campbell more for being in synch than he faulted Routt for getting beat.

“Well, there’s a lot of things coming at Stanford, too,” Jackson said. “We’re not just sitting there lining up saying, ‘Here, cover us.’ We’re moving around a little bit, we’re making it tough on those guys. But, yeah, I want Stanford competing. I didn’t see anything in that, that I go, ‘Oh, my Gosh, you know, Stanford’s not getting it done.’ I see rhythm and timing of our offense, the quarterback throwing the ball on time in a rhythm and a guy making a play.”

*Samson Satele’s return to the Raiders muddies the situation at center, with rookie Stefen Wisniewski now not a lock to be the starter.

“He has a chance to come play center,” Jackson said of Satele. “This game is about competition and competing and performance. I know everyone said I’ve handed the job to Stefen but, at that time, Stefen was the only center other than (Alex) Parsons on our team.

“So, Sammy’s back, and he’ll get a chance to go in there and line up and play and show what he’s got. He’s a veteran player carrying a lot of games. But, obviously, I’m very happy with Wisniewski. He’s doing an excellent job and, again, that’s going to be fun to see because we’re going to raise the level of play of this whole football team.”

Satele said he received offers from other teams but instructed his agent to get something worked out with the Raiders, if at all possible.

Satele worked at guard during his first NFL training camp, when he was a member of the Miami Dolphins. He wound up at center his rookie season and has played there almost exclusively during his four NFL seasons.

“I’ve got to battle this kid, a second-rounder, and he looks good out there,” Satele said. “My focus is not starting the preseason, but I want to start that Sept. 12 game at Denver and keep it all the way through the season. So, my focus is on beating him out any which way. And if I’m the man, I’m the man. And if he’s the man, he’s the man. Whoever doesn’t win the job, he’ll be the sixth man.”

*Running back Michael Bush is the only one of the 11 players selected by the Raiders in the 2007 NFL draft still on their roster. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Miller, receivers Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jonathan Holland, Henderson, defensive ends Quentin Moses and Jay Richardson, defensive backs John Bowie and Eric Frampton and fullback Oren O’Neal are with other teams or out of the league.

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  • J Hill

    I thought you were one of the many goofs who said it won’t be a big deal losing Miller, since we can sign Boss?

    —————————————————–

    No, that was some other goof.

    “since we can sign Boss” had nothing to do with me thinking we didn’t need to overpay Miller.

    Like Miller, I think Boss should be signed if he agrees to a reasonable deal. I would bot overpay to get him in here.

  • St. Louis Raider
  • Dakota just fainted

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Dakota is a capologist.

  • Dakota

    549.dvrick Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
    MEDIA REPORTING DARREN McFADDEN HAS ASKED TO BE TRADED!! HOW FUNNY IS THAT MR.DAVIS!!!
    +++++++++++++++++++

    MEDIA REPORTING THAT TIM TEBOW GAVE PHILLIP RIVERS A DIRTY SANCHEZ DURING THE LOCKOUT!

  • DEATHROW 55

    I think routte has plenty of time to work on his game, this guy has a lot of potential, and this is his time to shine and break the rust. He its not like d’hall, bucannon, f. washington who just banked on AD then played like $hit. I will sure miss those hits from namdi though, he was a damn good tackling corner unfortunately routte is not but that’s why we got the best safety arsenal EASY!!!!

  • Boo Hoo! Chad Henne says he has hurt feeling when Miami Fans chant for Orton. Will be out of the NFL soon. P-ssy!!

  • Dakota

    Notre Dame is ranked 18th in the preseason coaches poll?

    Michigan isn’t ranked…..lol.

  • Dakota, Don’t forget to add him to the Hater’s list.

  • Dakota

    Will do Exla

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
    Raiders made conscious choicer to retain own players, for better or worse. Truth on Miller _ Al Davis didn’t value him like Hue, and others
    3 minutes ago » Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald

    Panic in the streets! Raiders 15 mil over! Seen this act before . . . cap had NOTHING to do with losing Zach Miller.
    4 minutes ago
    ================================================
    Jerry is delusional if he thinks salary cap restraints don’t effect a club’s ability to sign or retain players.

    Think the Raids might be interested in signing Boss or another FA ?

    Then why aren’t they doing so ?

    It’s not bcz Davis is cheap.

    Without a cap, Davis would probably have one of the highest payrolls in the NFL, despite the fact that the Raids have less operating income than many other NFL teams.

    He’d sign any and every player he could to get that 4th Lombardi.

    He can’t do that this year. He has to operate and make considerations to stay within the cap.

    Jerry Mac would like you to believe the cap has no bearing on which players the Raids are able to sign and retain.

    Jerry Mac is wrong.

  • J Hill

    the Raiders can sign anyone they want and be over the cap until the league year begins

    ——————————————————-

    Ok, Dakota.

    I’ll just sit back and see what happends today, since the league year begins today.

    You’ve avoided all the key points in your responses I see.

    We were 17 million over BEFORE all this mess started and all we’ve done is restructure Wimbley, right.

    So 17 million before, a bunch of signings later (and no cuts) we have to be over the cap MORE NOW than we were before we started signing guys, right?

    RIGHT!!!!?????!!!

    Ok, I’ll go with you and Uncle Johnnie and look for us to make 30 million dollars worth of cap adjustments by EOD.

    I’m not buying that we restructured Seymour’s 2 year 30 million dollar contract. We are going to save 11 million off his cap this year by moving it to next year? And what, have him count 26 million against the cap next year?

    That doesn’t make sense to anyone other than those trying to make a few cole slaw jokes.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Chad Henne says he has hurt feeling when Miami Fans chant for Orton

    ***

    Exla,

    I’d laugh if this clown got beat out by Matt Moore!

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Dakota, what college did you attend?

  • nooooooo

  • J Hill

    You seriously want to rely on Myers and two rookies who were drafted in the 6th and 7th rounds to get the job done right day in and day out at TE?

    ——————————————————

    I’m sure you had a few Giants fans saying that about Boss when they got rid of Shockey.

    Next man up!

  • Are the Raiders still over the cap even after letting Nnamdi and Miller go? Unbelievable.

  • DKnight007

    Miami is stupid for not getting Orton.

    He would be reunited with Marshall and both of their fantasy values would go back up.

    The Miami offense would be much better with Orton slinging it around.

  • those must be trick questions,right?

  • DEATHROW,

    Nnamdi didn’t need any time to work on his game. He’s a professional. But I hope Routt gets it together.

  • DEATHROW 55

    Any body remember when dmac blasted ngata and that hog was dazed on the sideline after the collission. I heard dmac blasted groves yesterday and hue askin if wimbley wants some. Gota love it!!!!

  • DKnight007

    566.J Hill Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
    You seriously want to rely on Myers and two rookies who were drafted in the 6th and 7th rounds to get the job done right day in and day out at TE?

    ——————————————————

    I’m sure you had a few Giants fans saying that about Boss when they got rid of Shockey.

    Next man up!

    ^^^^^^^^
    I wish it was that simple, but in the grand scheme of things and in the big picture it isn’t.

    Plus the Giants new Shockey was drained and off the steroids, thats why the let him go.

  • Good ol’ Ron Wolf used to specialize in those players that didn’t need any “time” to get ready to play in this league. They just showed up with the lumber. Al Davis seems to really like these guys who need a few years.

  • Deja vu

    I agree 100% with post #561.

    You think Davis dumped miller because Myers is the next Casper? lol Puhlease!

    He’s strapped for cash due to overspending. The raiders have a high payroll, so if they sign Boss, i’m willing to bet that’s the last big name guy that they can sign.

    If he could sign who he wants then you would have Woodson paired with Namndi, Their leading rec wouldn’t have bolted to Seattle and so on.

    Davis can’t afford to make a big splash with the lower cap and higher player salaries. It’s not that he doesn’t want to keep these guys.

  • Al Davis strapped 4 cash??? puuuleeeeeese

  • dvrick

    McFADDEN ASKED TO BE RELEASED OR TRADED BECAUSE THEY ASKED HIM TO RESTRUCTURE IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IT I’LL GET THE LAST LAUGH AGAIN!! MILLER SIGNS WITH SEATTLE!

  • raiderzmaverick

    RAIDER Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Good ol’ Ron Wolf used to specialize in those players that didn’t need any “time” to get ready to play in this league. They just showed up with the lumber. Al Davis seems to really like these guys who need a few years.
    =============
    This is ESPECIALLY true in the secondary!

  • lol. Raiderman99 thinks Al would break the bank with no salary cap to win a Super Bowl. He says this right after Al lets Nnamdi and Miller walk.

  • John David Booty

    MistaBrown Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    DHB should have been restructured or cut. 15 mil for Seymour is WAY too high he only shows up for 3 games a year.

    23 mil in waste, wheres AL’s debt ceiling limit? Maybe pres purp lips and his band of libtard economist are running things into the ground in the WH & Oakland!
    _______

    DHB – 8.5 mill
    Richard Seymour – 15 million
    ___________________________________________________
    Only thing about DHB’s 8.5 is that about 7 of that is a roster bonus, and cant be restructured. Its money hes already pocketed. Wackness.

  • 4evaRaider,

    Did Al let Nnamdi and Miller go because he’s bathing in money?

  • Dakota

    We were 17 million over BEFORE all this mess started and all we’ve done is restructure Wimbley, right.

    So 17 million before, a bunch of signings later (and no cuts) we have to be over the cap MORE NOW than we were before we started signing guys, right?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    I don’t have the numbers in front of me Jhill, but as I have said I am a little more willing to believe Schefter and Clayton’s claims than I am to believe yours.

    If we were well under the cap there would have been no reason to restructure any contracts correct?

  • Raiderbuck
  • CB

  • DEATHROW 55

    Namdi and his game bounced to philli since he wanted to be with a WINING organization, lol. Compared them to a girl he has been in love with and how they at perfect matches for each other. You didnt see that robot talkin fuks presser. Fk him and his cone head fro !!!!!

  • MR….who cares.

    maybe he got no money under the cap…but YES he is bathing in cash.His wash boy should know that

  • J Hill

    but as I have said I am a little more willing to believe Schefter and Clayton’s claims than I am to believe yours.

    —————————————————–

    What do you mean than mine?

    Are you suggesting I created those websites that said we were under the cap?

    Schefter is using Clayton’s number.

    Why don’t you believe Jerry Mac?

    Or Tafur?

  • YoungAmerican

    I’m sure you had a few Giants fans saying that about Boss when they got rid of Shockey.

    Next man up!

    ————

    The difference is that the Giants had just won a Superbowl…

  • J Hill

    If we were well under the cap there would have been no reason to restructure any contracts correct?

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    Carlisle and McFadden said they have not been asked to restructure.

    Wimbley did not restructure. We negotiated a long term contract with him to get him off the Franchise Tag.

    Who restructured that you can tell us about?

  • Dakota

    Again, I don’t think DHB takes up that much room on our salary cap. he doesn’t have a large prorated bonus spread out over his contract because the Raiders talked him into getting his bonus last year in the uncapped season….here you go:

    “DHB’s astonishing $21.4 million salary for 2010 knocks Barry Zito off his perch as the Bay Area’s most overpaid sports flop. Heyward-Bey is ranked No. 28 among all American athletes — tops in the Bay Area — whereas Zito’s paltry $18.5 million salary has him all the way down at No. 39….

    …The more you look into these numbers, the less sense they make. Consider that the richest NFL player on the list, Peyton Manning at No. 9, has a 2010 salary of $15.8 million. While Manning doubles that in product endorsements, Heyward-Bey’s actual NFL salary is almost $6 million higher than Manning’s.

    That’s right. A fourth receiver who caught all of nine passes last season makes $6 million more to play football than the reigning league MVP does.

    I may be too charitable in calling Heyward-Bey a fourth receiver. DHB ranked tenth — tenth! — on his own team in catches.

    To be fair, the Raiders do throw a lot of passes to their tight ends. But this was the 29th-ranked passing team in the NFL. Its tenth-most-productive player is simply not contributing very much.

    Sports Illustrated notes that DHB’s oversize 2010 salary is the result of some unorthodox accounting. Heyward-Bey did not receive a proper signing bonus last year. But according to SI’s report, DHB receives “$20.7 million in combined option and roster bonuses” this season to make up for it.”

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Salary-Shocker-Heyward-Bey-Highest-Paid-Athlete-in-Bay-99027374.html

  • Dakota

    Jhill,

    You used those numbers and claimed we were well under the cap and you said you don’t buy the reports that we are over the cap. Are you ducking that?

    What has Jerry Mac said about our cap other than re-signing Miller was more about not being Al’s kind of player?

    And what did Tafur say?

  • J Hill

    He’s strapped for cash due to overspending. The raiders have a high payroll, so if they sign Boss, i’m willing to bet that’s the last big name guy that they can sign.

    ——————————————————-

    Strapped for cash, but still has enough to have a “big name” like Boss in for a visit?

    How is that possible?

    Dakota is right, I don’t get it.

  • Dakota

    Lol…Jwiggle is baaaack….

    “Wimbley did not restructure. We negotiated a long term contract with him to get him off the Franchise Tag.

    Who restructured that you can tell us about?”
    ________

    Wimbley signed his 1 year franchise tender, which is a contract. They restructured it to save us from an $11.3 million dollar cap hit. Argue about it all you want, but it is what it is.

    “Earlier this year, Wimbley signed a one-year, $11.3 million franchise tender”

  • RAIDERMAN99

    I don’t know whose numbers are correct.

    Don’t know if the Raids are 15 million over the cap or 5 million under.

    I do know that there is a cap and teams have less than 24 hours to get under it.

    Anyone that would have you believe that the cap is inconsequential in determining what players clubs are able to sign or retain, simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    Jerry Mac has blogged here that the cap is ‘nonsense’ and the Raids are able to sign or retain any players Al Davis desires, regardless of cap consequences.

    The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.

  • raiderzmaverick

    I don’t buy that he’s strapped for cash. I buy that he grants importances to the wrong factors at times and overpays up the yazoo. He is not good at negotiation and either gets the deal done because he overpaid, or he doesn’t have much competition on the person.

    There’s NO WAY Routt would’ve commanded anywhere near that kind of money on the market.

    And, there’s no way in hell anyone would pay DHB 8.5 mil this year. So, the option is not to pay the option bonus (basically cut him) and resign him for his 1 million. We paid him over 20 million dollars last year (more than Manning, Brees, and almost anyone else)!

  • Jhill…

    I told you that you would get caught making up phoney web-sites

  • J Hill

    You used those numbers and claimed we were well under the cap and you said you don’t buy the reports that we are over the cap. Are you ducking that?

    —————————————————-

    Those WEBSITES claimed we were 30 million under the cap.

    I said I didn’t know one way or the other since it conflicted Uncle Johnnie’s claims.

    You’ve stuck by UJ all this time.

    Not once willing to consider that he may be a little off on his numbers.

    I think I’ve asked some legit questions regarding UJs claims.

    Again 17 million over before we started, a bunch of signings later AND NO CUTS, NOT ONE, and we are now 15 million?

    I’m just waiting for some, any, type of transaction to confirm what UJ is saying. Carlisle being cut, DHB, Tommy Kelly. Heck, eeven a Hiram Eugene cut.

  • Dakota

    593.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
    I don’t know whose numbers are correct.

    Don’t know if the Raids are 15 million over the cap or 5 million under.

    I do know that there is a cap and teams have less than 24 hours to get under it.

    Anyone that would have you believe that the cap is inconsequential in determining what players clubs are able to sign or retain, simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    Jerry Mac has blogged here that the cap is ‘nonsense’ and the Raids are able to sign or retain any players Al Davis desires, regardless of cap consequences.

    The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Exactly. For years Al has been massaging the cap to get his roster under the cap….we have been at the top, or withing the top five salary spots for years. This is the year it finally catches up with us.

  • bcz24

    The cap isn’t ‘nonsense’ but Jerry’s position regarding the cap IS.
    *****************
    Jerrys right. Look at the contract Huff signed. He is getting paid 7 million dollars this year but only counting $895,000 towards the cap.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Al Davis is a millionaire, a legend and an icon.

    Dakota is an inbred hick with a 300 pound wife.

    Go Raiders!

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Al got rid of all Lame Kiffin’s losers.

    You are either a Raider or you are not.