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RB McFadden breaks orbital bone, out two weeks or so

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, August 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Hue Jackson just revealed that lead running back Darren McFadden missed practice Thursday because he suffered a fractured orbital bone. McFadden is expected to miss two weeks or so.

Jackson pointed out how McFadden missed significant time in training camp last season and went on to have the best season of his three-year NFL career.

In McFadden’s absence, along with unsigned free agent Michael Bush, the Raiders were down to Rock Cartwright and Louis Rankin at running back. Veteran Michael Bennett also is sidelined by injury right now.

McFadden wasn’t on the practice field at all. We’ll see if we can catch him afterward for comment. Headed back to the field for player interviews. Back at you in awhile.

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117 Responses to “RB McFadden breaks orbital bone, out two weeks or so”

  1. JLofty Says:

    Hope he is all right.

  2. bcz24 Says:

    VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    Jackson wasn’t worried about Bush — essentially he’ll sign tender when he has to (Aug 19)
    1 minute ago

  3. RaiderDuck Says:

    Bcz24 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    Jackson says “nothing happened today” re Boss. Indicated that ball is in Boss’ court
    2 minutes ago

    =========================================

    It means we probably told Boss what we’re willing to pay. He’ll either prefer our offer to NYG’s, or he won’t.

  4. radrntn Says:

    where is taiwan?

  5. JLofty Says:

    Some of these guys (in here) don’t seem to understand the nature of the NFL.
    Bush will show up when it is in HIS best interest to do so.

  6. bcz24 Says:

    radrntn Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    where is taiwan?
    ***************
    China?

  7. BigTed707 Says:

    Godspeed on your recovery Run DMC.

  8. BigTed707 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    radrntn Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    where is taiwan?
    ***************
    China?

    ************
    Classic!

  9. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Did Romanalski knock his azz out?

  10. bcz24 Says:

    AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
    49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.
    2 minutes ago
    ***************************
    This guy makes a living sh!tting on the Raiders

  11. ArmChair GM Says:

    For the record Mcfadden is a beast on offense and has the potential to be one of the all time greats,
    but this dude just cannot stay healthy! Every year it’s something…

    First his toes, last year it was his hammy, now his eye, sheesh!

  12. JLofty Says:

    Adam Sphincter has all the tools to do so Bcz…

  13. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
    bcz24 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    radrntn Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    where is taiwan?
    ***************
    China?

    ************
    Classic!
    :::::

    Awesome!

  14. MistaBrown Says:

    The gift and the curse.

    Send these guys home before we dont have 53 men left standing!

  15. JLofty Says:

    Niners won’t win 6 games this year.

  16. radrntn Says:

    i just heard andre carter wants to sign with the raiders

  17. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RB DARREN MCFADDEN OUT WITH BROKEN ORBITAL BONE…

    OH NOOOOOO!!!

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_offseason

  18. 4evaRaider Says:

    Put Jacoby Ford in at Y reciever/HB.I know this is a bit premature,but the kid reminds me of marshall faulk.Reese and Ford and Bush,who we really NEED in camp now.Yep it sho nuf the nfl….One’s loss is another’s gain.Dog Dog,Dog Eat Dog

  19. radrntn Says:

    ha ha ha…taiwain jones smart a**

  20. 4evaRaider Says:

    Terrible news 4the team.Like I said,the donkey never recovered from this :(

  21. RaiderDuck Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
    …Dog Dog,Dog Eat Dog

    ========================================

    Ted Nugent references FTW!

  22. bcz24 Says:

    Taiwan Jones is on the sidelines with what appears to be a hammy.

  23. bcz24 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Terrible news 4the team.Like I said,the donkey never recovered from this
    *****************
    Who?

  24. Tricky70390 Says:

    AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
    49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.
    ==========================

    LOL at ESPN’s anti-Raider bias. It’s amazing how that network hasn’t grown up yet.

  25. RaiderRetribution Says:

    china very funny actually, mcfadden’s injury not so much

    thankfully it was not a hip, knee, ankle, or, foot

    Mr. Bush is smart for waiting until Hue’s camp is over with, I just hope he is swimming, running, biking, lifting, doing everythng to stay inshape.

    even more so I hope the Raider’s defense puts the hurt to opposing defenses twice as much as they are their own teammates.

  26. 4evaRaider Says:

    You got it RaiderDuck,lol!

    RaiderDuck…if you dont mind can you please tell me the reason for your moniker??? Reminds me of Gaurd Duck on Pearls Before Swine lol!

  27. Raiders for life Says:

    where is taiwan?

    ###############################

    I think he got his bell rung by Romac.

  28. RaiderDuck Says:

    Tricky70390 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
    AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
    49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.
    ==========================

    LOL at ESPN’s anti-Raider bias. It’s amazing how that network hasn’t grown up yet.

    ===========================================

    Who ARE half those guys? Are they even starters? Are they collectively as valuable to the 49ers as a good single-deep safety is to us?

    I’m guessing “no” on both counts.

  29. RaiderDuck Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
    You got it RaiderDuck,lol!

    RaiderDuck…if you dont mind can you please tell me the reason for your moniker??? Reminds me of Gaurd Duck on Pearls Before Swine lol!

    ===========================================

    It’s a portmanteau of my two favorite football teams: The Oakland Raiders and The Oregon Ducks.

  30. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Injury happened on a blitz pick up against Groves, didn’t it ?

    DMAC stoned him.

    Hue was yapping it up after it occurred, asking Wimbley if he wanted some of that.

    Please let this be a 2 week thing. I don’t like the ‘or so’ part of the prognosis.

    Seem to recall Chaz was going to be out 4 weeks ‘or so’ when he broke his tootsie.

    If there’s one guy we can’t afford to lose, it’s DMAC.

    CODE BLACK CLOUD.

  31. 4evaRaider Says:

    Man whats his name,you know the WR we got from the denver Donkeys got his face smashed in Vegas,almost died

  32. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Outside of Moore, some of the best news I’ve seen tod

    VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    ESPN’s Schefter says #Broncos won’t trade QB Orton; Hoge says Tebow’s accuracy “so disturbing” — has skill set of seventh-round pick
    3 Aug ay:

    hahahahha. I told you fools this guy is NOT good!

  33. J Hill Says:

    Those ESPN guys throw cap #s around and some of you just fall all the way in …

    16 million for Huff, eh?

    Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
    by VittorioTafur
    Got wind of Michael Huff’s contract numbers _ 4 yrs, 32 mil, 7,315 to sign, 685,000 1st yr salary, 4 mil base 2012-2014. 2012 base guarantee

    How in the heck does 7.3 mil + 685k = 16 million?

  34. RaiderDuck Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
    Man whats his name,you know the WR we got from the denver Donkeys got his face smashed in Vegas,almost died

    ====================================

    Javon Walker.

  35. bcz24 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Those ESPN guys throw cap #s around and some of you just fall all the way in …

    16 million for Huff, eh?
    **************
    He was referring to the fact that Huffs contract includes 16 million in guarantees.

  36. 4evaRaider Says:

    Wow…a portmanteau,imagine that :)

    Exellent moniker tho!

  37. bcz24 Says:

    But yeah its just shady anti-Raider bias… Its easy for the media to pick on the Raiders man.

  38. DocPorter11 Says:

    Not good. Even if he does come back in two weeks “or so”, with him having such a large work load, the chances of reinjury are high. Mount Davis High.

  39. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I don’t think we sign Boss. The Raiders likely made a low offer, short deal as they are eyeing Ausberry for the future.

  40. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    What was the name of the TE Romo popped in practice ?

    Broke his orbital. Ended his career.

    Wound up suing Romo.

  41. bcz24 Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    What was the name of the TE Romo popped in practice ?

    Broke his orbital. Ended his career.
    ****************
    Marcus Williams. Romo shattered his eye socket though, I believe he may have been blind in that eye afterwords

  42. itzSteve Says:

    Come on Hue…I know you want a fast tempo, fast practice, building a bully and all that, but you really need to learn where to draw the line of productivity and player breakdowns and injuries. It seems like they are piling up very quickly. You cannot have continuity if your players are in the training room or watching from the sideline.

    Isn’t it ironic that Cable took the soft approach to practice trying to keep everyone healthy and Chaz would get injured for the season tripping over a line on the ground, but is practically the only person not getting hurt with the balls to the wall approach by Hue?

  43. 4evaRaider Says:

    wow that’s right RM99 oh oh

  44. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Latest Raiders RapidReports

    11 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – Khalif Barnes takes snaps with first team at RT
    On his first day of practice, Khalif Barnes is taking some snaps with the first team at right tackle, sharing time with rookie Joe Barksdale . Stephon Heyer is getting his initial work with the second team at left tackle, and Justin Smiley is the backup at left guard. Raiders RapidReports

    15 minutes ago – by Eric Gilmore – McFadden out two weeks with fracture
    RB Darren McFadden suffered a “little fracture” of an orbital bone during practice Wednesday and will be sidelined for two weeks, Hue Jackson said Thursday. “It’s interesting because last year he was out a couple weeks and it was a hamstring. He’ll be fine.” Raiders RapidReports

  45. ArmChair GM Says:

    # RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    What was the name of the TE Romo popped in practice ?

    Broke his orbital. Ended his career.

    Wound up suing Romo.
    _________________________________________________________

    Marcus Williams was the guys name.

    DMAC is extremely talented, but brittle and fragile.

    We just have to face that fact.

  46. bcz24 Says:

    “But the blow from Romanowski shattered Williams’ eye socket, leaving him with double vision and brain damage, the lawyer said, along with flashbacks and psychological problems.”

  47. RaiderDuck Says:

    DocPorter11 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
    Not good. Even if he does come back in two weeks “or so”, with him having such a large work load, the chances of reinjury are high. Mount Davis High.

    ====================================

    “Two weeks” is bull. Except for maybe a series here and there in the preseason, I doubt we see DMAC until the season opener. Assuming it’s just a crack, that gives the bone plenty of time to knit back together.

  48. J Hill Says:

    He was referring to the fact that Huffs contract includes 16 million in guarantees.

    —————————————————

    Dude said in 2011

    His tweet implied that the 9rs got 5 player for 16 million in 2011 and the Raiders got Huff for 16 million in 2011.

  49. Tricky70390 Says:

    Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
    Talked to DMcFadden following practice yesterday. He seemed fine. No swelling, no ice bag. You wouldn’t have known anything was wrong.

    Well at least he doesn’t LOOK messed up.

  50. bcz24 Says:

    Sounds like its a minor fracture in DMACs case.

  51. RaiderDuck Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
    Wow…a portmanteau,imagine that

    Exellent moniker tho!

    =================================

    Thank you, sir! :-)

  52. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thankx RaiderDuck…javon walker…aka donkey,imo

  53. GoodOle00 Says:

    Doesn’;t sound like its career threatening so whoo!

  54. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    JerrymcdJerry McDonald

    Talked to DMcFadden following practice yesterday. He seemed fine. No swelling, no ice bag. You wouldn’t have known anything was wrong.

    3 minutes ago

  55. RaiderDuck Says:

    Bcz24 Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
    “But the blow from Romanowski shattered Williams’ eye socket, leaving him with double vision and brain damage, the lawyer said, along with flashbacks and psychological problems.”

    =====================================

    And then Romo went on “60 Minutes” or “Between the Lines” or something after he retired and cried about it. What a hypocrite.

  56. MistaBrown Says:

    9ers sign Braylon for 3.5 and we are sitting on DHB for how many mil ?

  57. 4evaRaider Says:

    Man we’re worse than lil ole laidies lol!

    what is the real story on Dmac please

  58. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    PGutierrezCSNPaul Gutierrez

    Salary cap deadline pushed back to Friday. “We will be in compliance.” – #raiders coach hue Jackson

    6 minutes ago

    PGutierrezCSNPaul Gutierrez

    “Everybody’s an option, until it unfolds.” – #raiders coach Jackson on TE Boss. #nygiants

    15 minutes ago

    SterlingMooreSterling Moore

    by PGutierrezCSN

    I swear if @Moore_ThanEnuff runs one more out and up, double move or corner and up, ima kill someone!!!

    19 minutes ago

    »

    PGutierrezCSNPaul Gutierrez

    Yes?!? “@jaimemaggio: @PGutierrezCSN”

    20 minutes ago

    PGutierrezCSNPaul Gutierrez

    With Zach Miller gone, heard Jason Campbell is #raiders player rep

    21 minutes ago

  59. raiderjhawk Says:

    You guys better get the “get well” cards ready because Denarius Moore is gonna be SICK this year!

    CODE BLACK 2011!

  60. CuzImaRaider Says:

    It’s a portmanteau of my two favorite football teams: The Oakland Raiders and The Oregon Ducks.

    ——————————————————

    Lolz, this should never happen!! Go Beavers!

  61. ArmChair GM Says:

    # raiderjhawk Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    You guys better get the “get well” cards ready because Denarius Moore is gonna be SICK this year!

    CODE BLACK 2011!
    ________________________________________________________

    Code Black!

  62. RaiderDuck Says:

    Moore’s sounding pretty awesome, BUT let’s wait until the preseason begins.

    Hopefully, he gets some first-team reps, so we can see how he does in an actual game vs. starting DB’s.

  63. raiderjhawk Says:

    Alright RaiderDuck, go ahead and rain on my parade.

  64. 504 Raider Says:

    These damn “Nicks” are getting on my freakin nerves. Put the Green Jersey on DMAC.

  65. 4evaRaider Says:

    Louis Rankin is on the roster.Always liked him 2

  66. omniscience Says:

    Got to go to work in a hour need something good to happen No Boss Yet, Ford Out, DMAC Out, T Jones Out Miller Gone… What up

  67. 4evaRaider Says:

    Man we gettin jhawks and Ducks now !

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Man when the 408 said 7 more days

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  68. Kirk Says:

    I told you guys these practices were counterproductive. Hit the practice dummies, not your team mates.

  69. Kirk Says:

    Dmac got into a fight with Cable.

  70. 4evaRaider Says:

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thats GREAT Kirk!

  71. bcz24 Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 4th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    I told you guys these practices were counterproductive. Hit the practice dummies, not your team mates.
    ****************
    You gotta hit people to get in hitting shape. Injuries are a part of football man. Yeah it sucks when a blue chipper gets hurt, but its the game. Pattycake practices breed soft teams.

  72. raiderjhawk Says:

    Jayhawks all day 4EVA!

  73. Rob Roy the Raider Boy Says:

    Jamarcus speaks:

    RealJRock2 Jamarcus Russell
    Happy Birthday to my uncle Ray-Ray Russell. We miss you Unc!!!
    6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

  74. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Thats part of the cost of building a bully. Hue Jack is the man. This team is going to be tuff and fast.

    Can’t wait for the development of Ausberry. With that speed at TE? Sick!

  75. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Imagine a LB trying to cover that?

  76. 4evaRaider Says:

    How they gonna do this year jhawk,Iowa St. that is?

  77. raiderjhawk Says:

    I guess I don’t know what you mean?

  78. RaiderRetribution Says:

    OLine needs to start hitting back!

  79. Kirk Says:

    Bcz24, let the big uglies hit each other.

    Keep the top skill players healthy.

  80. 4evaRaider Says:

    I think the collage football program at Iowa St. is called the Iowa St. Jhawks…your alma-mater?

  81. RaiderDuck Says:

    Jamarcus speaks:

    RealJRock2 Jamarcus Russell
    Happy Birthday to my uncle Ray-Ray Russell. We miss you Unc!!!
    6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    ==========================================

    I’m surprised he managed to tear himself away from the cheeseburgers and purple drank long enough to tweet something…

  82. raiderjhawk Says:

    4eva, Iowa St. Cyclones, their mascot is a red bird? You can’t honestly tell me you don’t know who the Kansas Jayhawks are? Look up Championship in the dictionary, you’ll see them there.

  83. 4evaRaider Says:

    OOOH WOW…

    OOOOPS sorry Raiderjhawk

    g~o~l~l~y what a brain fart

  84. 4evaRaider Says:

    dis some good shizzzitt tho!

  85. raiderjhawk Says:

    why the heck are you following JRussell on Twitter. That’s borderline blasphemy.

  86. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hope this isnt the beginning of that brain thingy :(

  87. raiderjhawk Says:

    4eva, Jayhawk football isn’t where it’s at.

    Raider Football and Jayhawk basketball, it don’t get no better then that!

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  89. 4evaRaider Says:

    Now I’m hearing rhymes lol!

  90. 4evaRaider Says:

    ohhhh nooooo

  91. Orthodoxdj Says:

    I’m starting to fear that we’re going to suck. Hue wanted Miller, but Davis didn’t. Sounds like status quo for Al and the way he treats his coaches. Next thing you know, Al will tell Hue to tone own the practices. You can’t win with Al, and I mean that in more than one sense. We have some tough games early on. We had better get sonething going. NY and NE will be ready to play. Will we?

  92. raiderjhawk Says:

    I’m a poet and didn’t no it… haha.

  93. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Man these rehearsals for CODE BLACK 2011 are brutal. Fortunately no one’s out for the season

    Get well soon DMAC, Ford .. Bush: its time to sign!

  94. raiderjhawk Says:

    get off the ledge orthodox, we haven’t even started pre season yet. I think we’ll be okay we got 4 wks before the season starts.

  95. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  96. edward teach Says:

    Lotta guys getting dinged up.

    If the Raiders are as good at hurting their opponents this year as they are hurting each other, then I suppose the “bully-building” is right on track.

    I’d love to see some opposing starters not finish games.

  97. Universal Raider Reserve Patrol Says:

    Players all over the NFL are droppin with big and little injuries. Did some of them think the lockout would not be settled? Ever? Some stayed in shape but i doubt many did. Scary to see that.

  98. Dakota Says:

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  99. Dakota Says:

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  100. Dakota Says:

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  101. 4evaRaider Says:

    Sup Edward Teach!

    Man all of a sudden a cloud appears.

    Big coaching change

    Does the season already seem at a pivitol crossroad before the pre-season begins

  102. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    sad story about all-time Raider

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Legendary-Raider-Forced-to-Auction-Super-Bowl-Rings-126785478.html

  103. Courageous We Were Says:

    Al, if your not equipped to deal with team injuries, having quality back-ups, then you are a meathead. Get Bush signed and get Boss and have quality players ready when starters go down. Or aren’t resigned.

  104. BigTed707 Says:

    This stuff happens every year. It doesn’t sound as if DMAC’s eye hole is worse than Bush’s thumb was last year. It’s not like Dmac and Ford need surgery or anything.

    What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger!

  105. 4evaRaider Says:

    Have a most enjoyable evening Nation!

  106. Raider J Says:

    DMc will be a’ight. This would be a good time for Taiwan to show his worth if he wasn’t hurt… or in China.
    Nice 1, Bcz

  107. edward teach Says:

    Hey 4eva… I told somebody to wake me up when the lockout ended. I’m awake, so it must be over :)

    I’m not panicking. Clouds blow away. It’s a long season and the teams that play the best in the second half of the year are usually the most successful. Obviously, the Raiders have a ways to go. 8-8 is not going to automatically become 10-6, especially with the schedule this year and the fact that we don’t know how much of an impact there will be from losing Nnamdi and Miller. Maybe the offense won’t need to rely on the TE as much, and maybe the front seven will get even better its second year together and CJ will be able to hold the fort in Nnamdi’s old spot, who knows.

    I think the teams that face adversity as a challenge turn out ok. Raider teams of the past would have already packed it in. I just don’t see this coaching staff and these players as the types to give up. These guys will in my opinion fight to the end.

    It’s going to be an interesting year, and I’m looking forward to it.

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