Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes
By Steve Corkran
Monday, August 8th, 2011 at 7:57 pm in 2011 Preseason, Oakland Raiders.
Monday brought about the much-awaited debut of wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, at least in terms of participating in full-team drills.
Heyward-Bey spent the first 12 days of camp working his way back into shape from a mysterious injury and getting in some light work with his teammates. Finally, coach Hue Jackson turned loose Heyward-Bey to see where his third-year receiver is at nearly two weeks into camp.
Heyward-Bey looked sharp on most plays, taking in stride a pass from Jason Campbell on a down-and-in route, bursting past two defenders and into the open field. He also caught another pass over the middle and a sideline pass that he attempted to turn into a long play.
One problem, though. Heyward-Bey lost sight of cornerback Chris Johnson, didn’t protect the ball and was unable to do anything about Johnson poking out the ball from behind. Heyward-Bey also dropped a short pass over the middle.
All in all, he looked healthy, sharp and ready to make a push for a starting spot for the third straight year.
“He looked like a guy who’s getting ready,” Jackson said. “He did some good things, caught some balls, getting back into the swing of it. Good to have him back out there. Another pair of veteran legs. He looked good. I was glad to see production. Quarterbacks are getting back in rhythm with him. Obviously, that’s the most important thing, just getting the chemistry back with the quarterbacks. He’s back out there going, and we’re glad he’s there.”
Heyward-Bey said he feels up to speed.
“It felt good to be out there with the guys, going full reps and everything like that,” Heyward-Bey said. “I felt pretty good. … I wish C.J. didn’t knock that ball out, but I felt pretty good, for the most part. Me and Jason connected twice, and it felt good.”
*Jackson knows his way around a football field from years spent as a quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. However, this head coach thing remains a work in progress.
Hence, Jackson is preparing for things such as when to throw the challenge flag, when to kick a field goal, when to call a time-out. In many ways, Oakland’s exhibition opener Thursday will be just as much a learning experience for Jackson as it will be for the rookies on his roster.
“Oh, baby, I’ve thought about (that stuff),” Jackson said. “It kept me up the other night. I didn’t go to sleep. One of these nights, I was thinking about the red flag, I was thinking about, oh, tell them when to kick a field goal, oh, when to punt. I thought about all those things, but you know what? I’ve also been thinking about that for about five years now.
“I’m looking forward to it. I’m not saying there won’t be any bumps in the road, but I’ve got a great staff that I can lean on. The guys I put in the press box are quality, quality coaches that know exactly what it is that we need to do, and the guys that we have on the field, they’ll help me also. But will it be different? Yes, but I’m looking forward to it. Bring it on. Let’s do it.”
Jackson said that defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan will coach from the sidelines. Offensive coordinator Al Saunders will do his work from the press box.
*Jackson lost a bet with running back Michael Bennett at some point. The payment came in the form of Jackson wearing neon-green tennis shoes for practice.
If you missed out on seeing Jackson in the glow-at-night shoes, your only chance is gone.
“Everybody wants to know about my shoes,” Jackson said. “I lost a bet. And when you lose a bet, you have to pay up. Michael Bennett wears these shoes. These are a Michael Bennett special. When you lose, you pay up. It was my day to pay up, so I had to wear them. End of story.”
As for the nature of the bet, neither Jackson nor Bennett was saying.
“I cannot tell you,” Jackson said. “I cannot tell you and I will not tell you. It was well worth it. I lost and I’m wearing these shoes. It’s the only time in history I will ever have on these shoes. That’s it. They’re done.”
*Once again, Samson Satele and Stefen Wisniewski shared center duties throughout practice. At times, Wisniewski took some reps at guard. Other times, the starting line featured, from left to right, Jared Veldheer, Daniel Loper, Satele, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes.
Jackson said there’s a great battle going on at center. Both hopefuls are holding their own. Jackson makes a point of clarifying a remark he made when the Raiders selected Wisniewski in the second round of the NFL draft in April, when he declared Wisniewski his starting center.
That, of course, was when Satele was an unrestricted free agent. Now, with both on the roster, Jackson is careful to make sure he presents the situation as a wide-open competition.
*Running back Michael Bush is playing like a man on a mission, someone intent upon showing that he is in shape and ready to bang heads with whoever gets in his past.
It’s interesting to note that other running backs get thumped pretty good whenever they run into defenders. With Bush, defenders tend to touch him to signify that they were in position to make the play and then get the heck out of his way.
Bush, Rock Cartwright, Michael Bennett and Louis Rankin are the only healthy running backs as of now. Darren McFadden and Taiwan Jones still are sidelined with injuries.
*For a short while, it appeared as if rookie receiver Denarius Moore had shed his Superman image and returned to mortal status. He clanked a punt early in practice and then flat out dropped a short pass over the middle.
Not to worry. Moore rallied past the early gaffes by blowing past cornerback Walter McFadden and cradling a 45-yard pass from Campbell and running out of bounds at the 10-yard line.
Toward the end of practice, Moore beat Johnson to a quick out, spun away from Johnson and turned a short reception into a long play.
Just in another day’s work for the fifth-rounder out of Tennessee. Jackson was spotted talking to Moore off to the side on several occasions throughout practice.
*Sebastian Janikowski finally attempted a field goal. He spent the first nine practices standing around and keeping himself amused in various ways.
On Monday, Janikowski converted all four of his field-goal attempts, including back-to-back 40-yarders at the end of practice.
*Veteran receiver Derek Hagan made a couple of nice plays in only his second practice since he joined the Raiders.
In particular, Hagan ran a precise post route that placed him in position to make a fingertip grab of a pass as two defenders looked on.
Jackson said he’s looking for consistent playmakers, regardless of their age, draft status or history. Hagan has more career receptions (85) than any of Oakland’s other wide receivers.
“Hey, if you’re a good football player, if you can make plays for us, we’ll try to find a place for you,” Jackson said. “Obviously. there’s a group of young men who are fighting for jobs. We have established guys there, some guys who have played. I’m trying to uplift the whole performance of this team, so I want our guys to know and understand it’s about performance. The more you perform, the better you perform, the more opportunities you’re going to get.”
Hagan received a ton of reps Monday.
*Receiver Nick Miller had a short pass hit off his hands and wind up in the hands of a cornerback for the second straight practice. This time, it was rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke who benefitted from the second chance.
Speaking of Van Dyke, cornerbacks coach Rod Woodson is high on Van Dyke’s chances of developing into a productive NFL player.
“He reminds me of a player that I played with in Baltimore, Duane Starks,” Woodson said. “When he got drafted, coming out of The U (of Miami), and we were in Baltimore, he had great hips, great feet. DVD reminds me of him. He’s a little bit taller. His range, I don’t think too many receivers are outrunning him. So, he has to learn to break down, move his body weight and transition when he’s playing in space. If he does that, he can be a pretty good player.”
Van Dyke still is trying to digest the wealth of information coming his way and to carve out a niche.
“Well, I just got to play my part, man,” Van Dyke said. “Coach going to play nickel, play dime, I’ll do that. He wants me to be a starter, I’ll do that, too. But right now, I’m just learning from guys like Stanford Routt, Chris Johnson and Michael Huff and (Tyvon) Branch.”
*Jackson is like most coaches in that he views exhibition games as an ideal time to evaluate the players on his roster. In the end, though, he also wants to walk off the field with more points than the other team.
“If they’re keeping score, I like to win,” Jackson said. “That’s the way it is. Our team is going to go out there and play the way we’re supposed to play as Raiders and keep building on that.”
Playing that first game at the Coliseum is just an added bonus.
“It’s very important,” Jackson said. “It’s good to not have to travel. It’s good to know your environment and where you’re going to be, how to get to the stadium, how to do certain things and be comfortable and go out in front of your own fans and play football. I thank scheduling for what they did. They let us stay home. … We’re very excited about our preseason schedule.”
*McFadden caused quite a stir at practice without taking part in a single play. He is out with a fractured orbital bone. He fired up his black car, turned up the stereo and watched as people flocked to find the origin of the ear-busting bass. Jackson even wandered over to take a look at the flashy mobile.
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August 8th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
tj is an idiot.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
This mope is just not a football player.
“One problem, though. Heyward-Bey lost sight of cornerback Chris Johnson, didn’t protect the ball and was unable to do anything about Johnson poking out the ball from behind. Heyward-Bey also dropped a short pass over the middle”
August 8th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
DHB!!!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Post of the month!!!
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Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
KK do we have a problem?? huh?? it can be handled anyway you want.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Poor sports and negative as hell would sum them both up fairly well. Their hatred for Mr D clouds their minds and the can’t see their nose to pick it.
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This is why I called you names. You’re such a liar. Bootlicker
August 8th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
High praise for Van Dyke from Woodson, comparing him to Starks. Let’s hope Woodson isn’t just building this dude up and he actually has some potential…
August 8th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
We all know that players learn and improve through practice, so the heads up play by Chris Johnson was actually very very good for DHB. It happened in practice and not an actual game, and it’s like a good swift kick in the butt, telling him: Hey, dude, this is the NFL and I can’t rest for even a fraction of a second…they’re strip the ball right out. I need to stay focused and driven. If that happens again to DHB then we need to worry, especially in a game.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
KK,
PriestBJ, Terrapin, and Righty12 would die to have a chance to sniff the crotch of AL’s jumpsuit. These minions do not see the dysfunction that Al has created the past 20 years, but they are not smart enough to think for themselves.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
KK, the US lost its AAA credit rating after 3 years of libtard policies brought to you by your marxist-socialist-derelict hero pres.
Hows the DOW doing?
Gonna fight tj?
lmao
August 8th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
based on this practice DHB will be our number one wr and he will have 80 grabs…
August 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Woodson only played two years for us and they were great even those they were in the end of his career.
I’ve always liked the dude and I hope he’s successful as a coach and that he stays in Oakland. If he can coach (HALF) as good as he played, he’s going to step up the game of many players. Hope his presence and knowledge helps to offset the loss of Asomugha.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
310.priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
504 what are you talking about man? what’s powerball?
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Lotto numbers. Multi-state lottery. Usually over a hundred million. One time it was at $326 million and Shaq bought over 10,000 quick picks (tickets).
August 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Why are our defenders injuring our running backs in practice?
August 8th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
# Kirk Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Why are our defenders injuring our running backs in practice?
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Bounties
August 8th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
DHB is starting to do his thing boys, get ready this WR corp is going to be the swiftest and most dynamic corp in the league. This is going to be big fun foreal. The thing I heard Hue say the other day is the defense is also starting to strap it on pretty good. It’s attack time offensively and defensively.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
KK, the US lost its AAA credit rating after 3 years of libtard policies brought to you by your marxist-socialist-derelict hero pres.
Hows the DOW doing?
Gonna fight tj?
lmao
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This is funny!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
This mope is just not a football player.
“One problem, though. Heyward-Bey lost sight of cornerback Chris Johnson, didn’t protect the ball and was unable to do anything about Johnson poking out the ball from behind. Heyward-Bey also dropped a short pass over the middle”
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You know, a while back I posted (under what handle I have no fking clue) that DHB is afraid of getting hit. And rightly so. I got my doubts he will ever change. I hope so, but got my doubts.
The fear of getting hit is legit. That is what seperates the average/good from the great. And, great recievers know HOW to take a hit and get up. You either have it or you don’t.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Oh I kind of figured that’s what it was…..LOL
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Lotto numbers. Multi-state lottery. Usually over a hundred million. One time it was at $326 million and Shaq bought over 10,000 quick picks (tickets).
August 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
-BHP’s MUP List-
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HayesDaze37 ; MM34 – S
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; David Ausberry – WR
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertbone – Barksdale – OL
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SnB ; Chaz – WR
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
August 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Kirk Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Why are our defenders injuring our running backs in practice?
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Hopefully because they are learning how to stop the run!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Another stone cold lock from tj!!!!
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Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
DHB is starting to do his thing boys
August 8th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
I know Iknow, DHB came into the league early, young and green. So have a lot of other players. This is DHBs’ year. He either will have it or he will stink. And the only answer to that is time will tell, nothing else.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
BigTed from Sonoman County -
Mark me down for DeMarcus Van Dyke as my MUP
August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
1. chaz
2.ford
3.murphy
4.moore
5.dhb
how the hell is dhb going to get playing time with these 4 wr’s ahead of him
August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Well good to hear DHB is getting off to a good start.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Damn. I been forgettin to sign my posts:
CODE BLACK 2011!
HueJack is bringin’em back!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Super Rod knows DVD has the goods that’s why I wanted this kid he just has some of the loosest hips you’ll ever see his 1st step in transition is smooth and his makeup speed is sick. He has some great elements in his game that are essential to being a greta corner. How good depends on his work ethic it’s not going to be physical with him it’s going to how hard does he want to be the best. If anyone is capable of doing what Nnamdi did it’s DVD.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
-Chaz will hurt himself ballet dancing.
-Murphy will have perpetual groin pulls due to his popping viagra.
-Moore will ask to be traded after sitting on the bench watching DHB catch 3 balls in 8 games.
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Emil4423 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
1. chaz
2.ford
3.murphy
4.moore
5.dhb
how the hell is dhb going to get playing time with these 4 wr’s ahead of him
August 8th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
BigTed from Sonoman County -
Mark me down for DeMarcus Van Dyke as my MUP
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Check!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
BHP
Not expecting Nnamdi type of play from DVD, but if he is as good as Woodson thinks he is, we should be pleasantly surprised.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Bey will be alright. Confidence in the world of athletics (as in hunting and business and…) is paramount. DHB has physical gifts, and a strong work ethic. Once he gets some confidence momentum I think we’ll get to see what Crazy Ol Al saw in him as a 20yo.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
30. RaiderDogg Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
BHP
Not expecting Nnamdi type of play from DVD, but if he is as good as Woodson thinks he is, we should be pleasantly surprised.
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If Woodson likes him, I’m on board.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Hi everyone.
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August 8th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I wonder what the bet was…
August 8th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I’m going to the Jets games this year. Does anyone want to rub my balls on their head for good luck. I will be sitting in section 205. It’s kind of a tradition.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Bush is rtg and looking for skulls to crack!!!! Can’t wait for him to run over some Donkey!
Cable never got the most out of our backs in my opin.
And I liked Son of Huggy…
August 8th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Jackson is preparing for things such as when to throw the challenge flag, when to kick a field goal, when to call a time-out.
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Don’t be wastin’ those Time Outs like Cable did, Hue!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Now I am not going to say this to upset the DHB apologists, but think about it. DHB is your #5 wr, we know this. But in practice, the guy can fly. SO, given his speed up against our corners in practice should make the defensive backfield better. You know, take the pace of practice a little faster than that of the game. DHB is probably the fastest guy on two legs right now, so use that to the D’s advantage.
CODE BLACK
August 8th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
# JLofty Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Bey will be alright. Confidence in the world of athletics (as in hunting and business and…) is paramount. DHB has physical gifts, and a strong work ethic. Once he gets some confidence momentum I think we’ll get to see what Crazy Ol Al saw in him as a 20yo.
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Hue Jack has said in reference to D Moore…”The game is not to big for Him” Reason….confidence
DHB is working towards that. In other words…developing.
Mabey he does, (develope) mabey not, but I’m good with being patient.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Like I said if anyone has the ability to do what nnamdi does DVD has that type of talent. He needs to work hard and provew it over time. He has the talent to do it.
I never ssaid he was as good as Nnamdi NOW!!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I do recall Mr. Bush was in the former coaches’ dog house.
Raiders will have two 1,000 yard ruchers this season.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
If Jackson can cut down on the penalties that will be a miracle. I suspect we lead the league in penalties because our offensive line has been terrible for years.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Like I said if anyone has the ability to do what nnamdi does DVD has that type of talent. He needs to work hard and provew it over time. He has the talent to do it.
I never ssaid he was as good as Nnamdi NOW!!
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I hear you BHP, and I knew what you were saying. Keep in mind I am of the opinion that Nnamdi is over rated…
August 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
24.emil4423 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
1. chaz
2.ford
3.murphy
4.moore
5.dhb
how the hell is dhb going to get playing time with these 4 wr’s ahead of him?
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The Al Davis effect.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
McFadden caused quite a stir at practice without taking part in a single play. He is out with a fractured orbital bone. He fired up his black car, turned up the stereo and watched as people flocked to find the origin of the ear-busting bass. Jackson even wandered over to take a look at the flashy mobile.
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Was Coach Jackson going over there to see what the distraction was? What happened?
CODE BLACK
August 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Running back Michael Bush is playing like a man on a mission, someone intent upon showing that he is in shape and ready to bang heads with whoever gets in his past.
It’s interesting to note that other running backs get thumped pretty good whenever they run into defenders. With Bush, defenders tend to touch him to signify that they were in position to make the play and then get the heck out of his way.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I Freakin Love This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m all in, Coach…unleash the Bully!!!!
2011 Let’s Go!!!! RAIDERS
August 8th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Have a good night Nation!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I honestly believe Mike Bush is the best big back in the game, now he doesn’t get the work load to prove it but when you look at the totality of his skillset he is a very rare specimen. His running skills belie his size he is as gifted a runner as most scatbacks NO is NOT as quick I’m talking about footwork and vision and explosion for his size. At 245 he just sees things most backs don’t and his hands are awesome. It’s very rare to see a big back with hands like his.
Give this big man the ball and it’s torturous to a defense. As Steve said the defenders hit everyone except “Big Mike”.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
MUP
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..Reece..
August 8th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Emil4423 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
1. chaz
2.ford
3.murphy
4.moore
5.dhb
how the hell is dhb going to get playing time with these 4 wr’s ahead of him
- AD.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Pic of Hue’s shoes…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_off_season
August 8th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Understood Dogg!!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Priest
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Last year Bush blew my mind with some of the stuff he can do, him and DMAC both have the complete package..Best duo in the league
August 8th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Oh my gord those shoes are just awful!!!
August 8th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
lmao!
So I hope Schilens stay healthy and that Denarius kicks but too. Ford and Bey along with Murph have a shot too.
Just hope someone on the line can pass block.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Good to hear Rod Woodson say that if he does well coaching, he’ll make a career out of it. I sure liked what I saw in his interview. He talked with authority and confidence … he’s going to move right up the ladder.
August 8th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
i mean if u look at it:
Veld/loper/satele/car/barnes
Its diff from last year but still the same basic unit..chemistry still there
August 8th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Nnamdi21 What stood out to me in that article was not coaches shoes but the comment about Jarvis Moss. Late last year I was jumping up and down about this kid because I saw his moves and leverage and quickness. His only thing was could he get strong enough to beat a punch and get separation. he had the quickness and hands but did he have the strength to stack and shed. If he does you guys have no idea what kind of player this guy can become. His natural instincts and moves are fantastic he has very long arms (Charles Haley) like and he explodes off the line. if we can get this kid to get confident. WOW………..WOW!!
We have what every team in the league is Dying to get an edge rusher that can wreak havoc. We all had hopes for T Scott but he’s just not explosive and he has ONE MOVE. This kid Moss has several inside outside bull swim and long arms to make them all work. He can be special if he works at it.
I just hope that article is right…….
August 8th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Why do you guys think DHB started the last 2 years?
I ask that in the context of if the HC was allowed to play Gardowski at QB instead of Glo, then why would DHB be “forced” to start?
If the HC could sit Bruce Campbell all season, why not DHB?
August 8th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
DVD got benched at Miami for lack of discipline in his assignments. Hopefully he matures a bit with Rod there.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
So you don’t look like an idiot AGAIN).
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Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I just hope that article is right…….
August 8th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
August 8th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Why do you guys think DHB started the last 2 years?
I ask that in the context of if the HC was allowed to play Gardowski at QB instead of Glo, then why would DHB be “forced” to start?
If the HC could sit Bruce Campbell all season, why not DHB?
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Because the’re no one on that team who could realistically start ahead of DHB. Chaz was out.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
tj, how many mugs of ripple you drank tonight ?
August 8th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
tj did you see how fast KK bounced out of here? He knows ur about to go Fred Sanford on his gluteus maximus!
August 8th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Brady,schaub,Rodgers,rivers,cutler, nd orton. We face some qb’s that will eat our cb’s alive if not ready. Remember the Miami game last year. This is really the only “weak” spot we have on roster, hopefully they hold up. afc west champs 2011 Oakland raiders!!!
August 8th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Hill, it took Ford time to developas a wr last year, chaz wasnt available, and Moore didn’t exist. We didn’t have better options.
All that said, DHB was definitely phased out of some late season game plans once chaz came back.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Zac Etheridge MUP
August 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
MississipRaider
They will have to take their lumps like everyone else. There are no short cuts, they have to go through it. We have two savvy vets ready and DVD will play the slot. That should get it done.
That’s why Jarvis Moss is sooooo freaking important we need qucik pressure on the QB he can’t sit back and scan the field he has to throw under duress if Moss and Co. can do that we wont be to bad off. Trust me!!
August 8th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Mississippi, pass defense isn’t our only weakness: we were 29th in run defense last year. And we returned all those run d players, except for nnamdi, our best tackler in the secondary.
So really our weaknesses are pass defense and…run defense. Just that.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
How do everyone. My MUP is gonna be Bryson Kelly, comin from a D2 school he prolly aint got a snow balls chance in hell to make it.
So we’ll roll with that.
Like the Code Black. Keep it real.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Alex,
Didn’t DHB get hurt too during the season?
Phased out?
I know he all 4 balls thrown to him as late as the Indy game.
Had a decent game against the Jags too, didn’t he?
I think it’s a good problem to have DHB actually developing. I think if he can do in the preseason games what he did in practice today, I think he stay in the WR rotation.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
-BHP’s MUP List-
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HayesDaze37 ; MM34 – S
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
MississipRaider; Zac Etheridge – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; David Ausberry – WR
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertbone – Barksdale – OL
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SnB ; Chaz – WR
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Gotcha MississipRaider Zac Etheridge……..
August 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
So you don’t look like an idiot AGAIN).
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Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I just hope that article is right…….
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I have not been here for months and as an observation mistaclown you seem angrier than before. And stupider. Honestly, I wouldn’t have thought that possible.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Denarius Moore and Taiwan Jones have fan clubs on the MUP list.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
DHB started the last 2 years because otherwise, Davis would look like an idiot.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Seymour the guys is certifiable needs a rubber room.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Then why did it take DMC and Bush so long??
Truth is we had several injuries at WR and DHB and Murphy were the better players of those healthy. It was more out of necessity.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
We scored 410 points on offense…If the oline can protect the goal should be 475…
August 8th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Rolando will start plugging those holes on run defense. Plus our Dline will only get better with Houston developing nd more chemistry. Aside from the Texan nd dolphin game they held up. The jag game was somewhat mismanaged
August 8th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
DHB started the last 2 years because otherwise, Davis would look like an idiot.
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Seems being DHBs’ developement will be evident come game time. I’m sure Mr. Jackson has a directive or two and playin time for the DHB is got-to be one of them.
Practice be practice, game time be nut crunchin time.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
If Chaz were healthy and Javon Walker, DHB would not have started IMO. He would’ve probably bee the 3rd guy similar to how we used Tim Brown as a rookie.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
But we scored like 40 total vs the steelers, dolphins, titans, and 49ers combined. Sad vs legit defenses.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Hey there Mr Corkran, you ever been seeing Mr Davis at the practices or can you see him through the window in his office?
Could you be a real sport and get some video action of practices?
How does Mr Woodson look as a coach? He look like a natural at it?
Keep up the good work, lookin forward to pre-season opener.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I like DVD, despite his past as a Hurricane. But Woodson did not give him the ringing endorsement some are making it out to be. He said the guy could be pretty good. That’s not exactly future Nnamdi status.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
The Chargers had the #1 defense in the entire NFL we beat ‘em twice. Ran for over 200 yards in their house. KC’s had a playoff team the 49ers qnd Fins were lucky to get us on a bad day.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
“Once again, Samson Satele and Stefen Wisniewski shared center duties throughout practice. At times, Wisniewski took some reps at guard. Other times, the starting line featured, from left to right, Jared Veldheer, Daniel Loper, Satele, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes.”
Yikes!
August 8th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
82.alex7 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
But we scored like 40 total vs the steelers, dolphins, titans, and 49ers combined. Sad vs legit defenses.
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had youngsters starting in key positions.
lots of new:
OCO
Offensive system
MLB
WR
etc.
I would put money on the Raiders to beat anyone of those teams this year….
August 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
For Rod to say that is HUGE for a rookie……trust me!!
August 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
None of these DBs are strong enough to jam nd disrupt the timing of the receiver. These WRs today are very strong nd fast. Try to jam Vincent Jackson nd see why happens. He did score on Nnamdi 2009 opener. I know I sound pessimistic but mike Haynes nd Willie brown are not walking through those doors.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
alex7 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
But we scored like 40 total vs the steelers, dolphins, titans, and 49ers combined. Sad vs legit defenses.
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We were out matched vs Steelers. OK
Dolphins? Who started that game at QB? Thought so.
Titans? Cable just didn’t have the boys ready.
Niners? No fcking excuse.
If we had that same scenario this year, Mr Jackson would have fire comin out the asses of the boys. We win all four.
August 8th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
82.alex7 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
But we scored like 40 total vs the steelers, dolphins, titans, and 49ers combined. Sad vs legit defenses.
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had youngsters starting in key positions.
lots of new:
OCO
Offensive system
MLB
WR
etc.
I would put money on the Raiders to beat anyone of those teams this year….
Yesssir
August 8th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
89.MississipRaider Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
None of these DBs are strong enough to jam nd disrupt the timing of the receiver. These WRs today are very strong nd fast. Try to jam Vincent Jackson nd see why happens. He did score on Nnamdi 2009 opener. I know I sound pessimistic but mike Haynes nd Willie brown are not walking through those doors.
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QB will need time to get the ball to the Wr without one of our Dlinemen ripping their head off.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I think the bet was whether or not DHB would would participate in drills today.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
The highest paid players start for the Raiders. Denarius Moore will be lucky to see ANY playing time.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Mike haynes and Willie were rookies at one time too………like I said they will take their bumps and learn what do you want? there are no miracles.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Like I said if anyone has the ability to do what nnamdi does DVD has that type of talent. He needs to work hard and provew it over time. He has the talent to do it.
I never ssaid he was as good as Nnamdi NOW!!
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Priesttj,
I am going to battle a bit on this one. He may have the physical skills, but does he have the work ethic, ability to retain what is taught, insatiable appetite to dig into that playbook, ability to play fast and then a little dumb luck? No one knows that. Not even the Raiders. They won’t know that except through game film and observation.
Sure his upside is very good…just like any number of players drafted.
This kid has a chance. Just like Checkwa, McFAdden and the rest.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Ford was a high paid player last year????
August 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Gator, you dont admit that jackson had say in the numerous benchings of Campbell? Hue was thrilled when Bruce helped him to the first 500 yard output in 7 years (grads actually did it twice).
Grads moved the ball better vs steelers than jc. There are legit reasons why jc has been benched throughout his career.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
SnB can you comprehend the original post. It says if he “works hard” doesn’t it?
August 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
So many factors go into player development. We won’t know what we’ve got for a couple of years.
Only the guys at the top of the draft…getttin that big money are “supposed” to be contributors out of the gate and have a steeper development curve
August 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
SnB can you comprehend the original post. It says if he “works hard” doesn’t it?
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That’s such a general statement though. That applies to EVERY rookie on every team in the league.
The one thing DVD and the Raider CBs have that the others don’t is Rod Woodson.
But other than that…these kids are drafted and paid money because they have that ability
August 8th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Who’s saying DVD is going to be a bust two weeks into training camp?
August 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Rod Woodson only reiterated what I said about DVD vefore we drafted him. I’m just supporting what Rod had to say. The kid has the tools now it’s up to him………….period
August 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Mississippi Raider,
Yikes, you honestly think oakland was the only team to have a new coordinator and some rookies and 2nd year players starting?
Man, the excuses we make are sometimes ridiculous.
Ravens had rookie coach, rookie qb, lousy wrs, young ray rice two years ago…NO EXCUSES, you go win if youre any good.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
A Bootlickers player evaluation’s are worthless. Gnite All.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Fred would suffer the Lamont Taunt and be left to want
August 8th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Evening all. Here is my annual forecast for the upcoming season. Should be a great debut for Hue Jackson.
No brainer:
Raiders 42
Broncos 10
Raiders gonna go to Buffalo
and win 24-3
Jets always stuggle and tremble when they have to come to Oakland, and Sanchez gonna taste the Black Hole.
Easy pickins for Raiders 48-17
I’m goin out on a limb here and sayin Raiders gonna beat those basturd patriots:
13-10
Monkeys comin off the back:
Raiders 24
Texans 17
Wheres the beef?
Raiders 35
Cleveland 17
This game gonna be a nail biting OT thrilla:
Oak 17 KC 14 (janobrewski misses 4 fgs’ in that game but hits in OT)
Denver wets their pants as they arrive here and lose 41-3
Raiders struggle with this one, but SD struggles even more. A sloppy game.
Oakland 21
SD 14
Vikings suck.
Raiders 31
Minn. 17
Home field really helps here.
Raiders 24
Da Bears 21
Fck the dolphins
27-14 Raiders
Gonna have to give this one to the cheeseheads and the cheesehead fans. Travel, time of year and the pressure finally get to the Raiders.
24-10
Lions lose
27-17
KC sucks ass!
Raiders 31
KC 10
SD smells like ass!
Raiders 28
SD 21
15-1. Book it!
August 8th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
The only thing sanchez tasted at the black hole was the hot dog he got to eat after callahan’s line helped them rush for like 300 yards on us. Sanchez might have also tasted part of the gatorade shower dumped on bill at the end of the game.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Mann KK you act as if you and Al Davis were on a date and Davis took you home and said good night and never called you again. Is that what happened? Why you hate the guy?
How do you know you didnt’ have body odor or something. You know thats a turn off man. Just wonderin……..
August 8th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Mike haynes and Willie were rookies at one time too………like I said they will take their bumps and learn what do you want? there are no miracles.
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The point is u can’t just draft corners cause they’re fast. Phil buchanon was fast, Fabian Washington was fast, Chris Carr, Deangelo hall, etc. What do I want, I wan my owner to cut that bull%#!+ Out drafting on speed alone. I know he has forgotten more than I will ever know bout the game, but when he misses it’s not just ur average mistake it’s something that usually can be avoided. LIKE, overpaying wimbley nd Routt.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
alex7 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Mississippi Raider,
Yikes, you honestly think oakland was the only team to have a new coordinator and some rookies and 2nd year players starting?
Man, the excuses we make are sometimes ridiculous.
Ravens had rookie coach, rookie qb, lousy wrs, young ray rice two years ago…NO EXCUSES, you go win if youre any good.
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Yeah, but the Ravens also have at least three potential Hall of Fame players on their roster maybe more. How many Hall of Famers are on the last couple of Raider rosters?
August 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Mississppi do you realise all those corners are starting in the league right now. Every one of them that you mentioned started their entire careers. So what’s your point??
August 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
All in all, he looked healthy, sharp and ready to make a push for a starting spot for the third straight year.
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HAHAHAHA… DHB shat in yall hater’s cereal. How do you like the flavor?
August 8th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
haters’ …. pardon me.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
if you think he drafts on speed alone then you obviously are very ignorant and listen to way too much crap from naysayers.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
103. Like the article said, DVD is a project.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Me and Jason connected twice, and it felt good.
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Ooooooooooh yeah! Hot!
August 8th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
The Raiders have done a nice job rebuilding their team in the last three years. The defensive line has been very nicely rebuilt. The linebacking corp also has some real potential.
Surprisingly, the skill positions are nicely stacked. The Raiders tried, AGAIN, to rebuild the offensive line after failing recently with Gallery and Grove. That unit right now is a question mark. QB is a serious question mark. The 2ndary is a serious question mark, but again, it is stocked with a lot of potentially good players.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I laugh at you Al Davis haters posing as Raider fans…Al is the biggest Raider fan of us all and hates to lose as bad or worse than any of us.
He will never stand pat with a losing team and will try to make changes to win, some times he hits a homer…sometimes he strikes out, but he will always make moves to try and win.
If you don’t like that….YOU AIN’T A RAIDAH FAN!!!
August 8th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Alex7 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Mississippi Raider,
Yikes, you honestly think oakland was the only team to have a new coordinator and some rookies and 2nd year players starting?
Man, the excuses we make are sometimes ridiculous.
Ravens had rookie coach, rookie qb, lousy wrs, young ray rice two years ago…NO EXCUSES, you go win if youre any good.
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First Alex let me assure u I’m down for this team all the way 2 the eye patch. But u CAN NOT compare us 2 baltimore a team in the playoffs consecutively for the last 4 or 5yrs. Second that’s a team ran by it’s all pro Defense that hold opponents to a measley 10 to 13 points a game nd no 100 yard rushers. So a rookie qb can develop behind a solid line with a young stud rb, super vet receiver mason nd heap.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Seymour honestly man are seriously saying JC is not an upgrade to Russell? I know we both loved the big kid with unlimited potential. But JC is a pros pro he may not do it the wya everyone likes to see it done. But this team has a real chnace now and most of that is due to JC at QB.
I loved Russell and rode him until he let the wheels fall off, you cannot do what he did and expect $$9 million more dollars. He got a ton of money and proceeded to make us a laughingstock. I still like the kid and wish he would put in the work to get better but where is he?? Instead of working and trying to make a team he’s going back to school………come on man there’s something wrong with that.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
This year Al isn’t trying to do with quick-fix FA signings or over-paying non-impact homegrown players.
He’s going with developing young talent and ballers…with a kick-ass coach…I like it! Just like I thought signing D.Hall, J.Walker, G.Wilson was a good idea too. Give it a try and see what happens.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
DHB success breeds success, keep making plays amd it’ll eventually be like second nature. Every catch every play gives a boost to JC’s confidence that he can go to you when he wants to. That’s the difference between production and the next level.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
I loved Russell and rode him until he let the wheels fall off
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OMG….. hot!
August 8th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Mississppi do you realise all those corners are starting in the league right now. Every one of them that you mentioned started their entire careers. So what’s your point??
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If these DBs are so good then y we still dont have them. Buchanon is on his 3rd or 4th team same for Carr nd Fabian nd buchanon is the only starter. And if u hater on someone cause they have an opinion then ur ignorant. U really think I listen to the Michael lombardis nd schefters lol I pay my good money on RAIDER caps, sweats, jackets, shirts nd if I want to tell Al himself to blow it out his Arse then thats my business
August 8th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Dude Carr was an undrafted FA Buchanan starts most everywhere he goes. Fabian Started for Balt.
Well you tell him whatever and think whatever you want I’m telling you if that’s what you think YOU are wrong. Now believe whatever you want no one drafts on speed alone that’s the dumbest thing ever. Lombardi worked here and he knows the truth just as I do. Sure he loves speed because t’s the only thing you cannot teach but you don’t get Charles Woodson’s and Nnamdi;’s and Routts drafting on speed alone taht is freakin FOOLISH…………period
August 8th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
SilverNutSack Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
All in all, he looked healthy, sharp and ready to make a push for a starting spot for the third straight year.
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HAHAHAHA… DHB shat in yall hater’s cereal. How do you like the flavor?
ummmm, one good practice for HIM maybe.. the guy has no hands. a dropped pass and a fumble is a good practice for this piece of $hat hahahaha
August 8th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
94.lefty12 Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Murphy isn’t practicing,whats the deal?What is his injury?Something going on here.Why the mystery,just tell us what is wrong.They must be holding him out because he is either going to get traded or cut.Sounds pretty ridiculous doesn’t it!
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come on now lefty u know he has to get cut.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
murphs not getting traded or cut.. why would you even say that?
August 8th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Damn man do you think Rod Woodson couldn’t go somewhere else and get a job why would he come here knowing how he does it? No coach would come here if he drafted for speed ALONE…………that’s just damn ignorant!…………period
August 8th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
dhb= most likely to get traded or cut
cant catch a pass,cant catch a pass,cant catch a pass,cant catch a pass,almost caught a pass,cant catch a pass…
August 8th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
dhb hater right here! anyone notice yet? shoulda drafted maclin…
August 8th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Seymour honestly man are seriously saying JC is not an upgrade to Russell?
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Clearly he is an upgrade over Russell. But that’s not saying much. Teams in the hunt have perennial pro bowlers at the Q position. Is Campbell perennial pro bowler?? I would have to see a lot more out of him to give him that accolade.
August 8th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
so many people want dhb to fail so they can be right. its really a bunch of idiots in here that b!tch about the same sh!t and same players everyday. when dhb makes plays its just 1 practice. there really arent that many raider fans on this blog. they are fans of a handful of players they like. they leave no room for these guys to improve. this is a young team and it takes a while to develope them. we finally have a solid coaching staff to get the most out of them. now isnt the time to panic.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
MississipRaider Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Mississppi do you realise all those corners are starting in the league right now. Every one of them that you mentioned started their entire careers. So what’s your point??
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If these DBs are so good then y we still dont have them. Buchanon is on his 3rd or 4th team same for Carr nd Fabian nd buchanon is the only starter. And if u hater on someone cause they have an opinion then ur ignorant. U really think I listen to the Michael lombardis nd schefters lol I pay my good money on RAIDER caps, sweats, jackets, shirts nd if I want to tell Al himself to blow it out his Arse then thats my business
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Most of these DB’s are relatively fast & half way decent DB’s. They will do OK in zone coverage but they weren’t particularly good at man coverage. If you are a DB and can’t play man, you won’t be with the Raiders very long.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I laugh at you Al Davis haters posing as Raider fans…Al is the biggest Raider fan of us all and hates to lose as bad or worse than any of us.
He will never stand pat with a losing team and will try to make changes to win, some times he hits a homer…sometimes he strikes out, but he will always make moves to try and win.
If you don’t like that….YOU AIN’T A RAIDAH FAN!!!
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I agree completely. The people that complain about Mr. Davis constantly have a poor sense of honor and loyalty… maybe I’m not saying that exactly right, but SOMETHING is wrong with them… If you look at the big picture concerning the Raiders, how can you not respect and pay homage to the man that made what you love? It is the equivalent of being a Christian and saying $%^& Jesus!
August 8th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
i wish we would sign brian waters. i wonder if we even reached out to him yet. i wish that tatupa would make up his mind if he wants to play here or not. that lb francis may have a shot at making the team tho. cant wait until thursday. there is a lot of young talent to discover. trent edwards will also make the preseason worth watching after the 1rst quarter.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Thanks JB I got a little heated I get a little irritated at all the crap thesee guys spew in here. Some of the stupidest crap you ever want to read. But I should know better than to get that heated………people don’t think on their own they just say what everyone else says.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
J-Raider Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
murphs not getting traded or cut.. why would you even say that?
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Why would you even say this:
J-Raider Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
dhb= most likely to get traded or cut
cant catch a pass,cant catch a pass,cant catch a pass,cant catch a pass,almost caught a pass,cant catch a pass…
I’m guessing you just like to vent and take out your day’s anger on Raider players… otherwise, I can’t see the point… I think we all understand the situation with Bey… hopefully he develops.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Seymour agreed!!
MississipRaider look man sorry I got so heated I get a little frustrated with all the other stuff and took it out on you.
Apologies man!!!
August 8th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Schillins, Ford, Moore, DHB, Murphy & NMiller. That’s my take right now on the starting line-up. I’m thinking, if he can stay healthy, Schilins will have a banner year.
Who’s the best choice for the slot? I’m thinking Moore. I’d like to see the following pairings/back-up:
Schilins/DHB, Ford/Murphy & Moore/NMiller.
I think this group is just getting to the point of being productive. IMO, the days of having to depend on the TE for completions are over. That’s good because our passing game will be just that much more explosive.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Ill give these DBs a chance nd we’ll see how the season unfolds… Nnamdi nd Cwood have varied skills out of college. But Fab,Carr,Buchanon all speedsters nd I never said he drafts all positions like that jus mainly DBs Al is the leader nd I follow don’t mean I have to like EVERYTHING he does. Very good debate I’m out Raider bethern
August 8th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
DHB was a project when he was drafted. We all knew it. Some of these “fans” are stomping up and down and throwing themselves around that after his 2nd season he hasn’t morphed into Larry Fitzgerald. Dwayne Bowe has similar size and speed to DHB, and was considered a much more NFL ready player coming out of LSU. Bowe sucked ass until last year, his 4th year in the league. If it was sooooooo easy to do these jobs, these guys wouldn’t be making tens of millions of dollars doing these jobs. Anyone could do it.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Yeah Mr. Davis has his fetishes when it comes to corners… definitely a hip man, likes ‘em fast.. but he has found quite a few hall of fame/pro bowl caliber corners over the years. Gotta think his criteria are as good as anyone’s… shapely hips and they gotta be able to back it up smooth and quick and switch it around the other way..
August 8th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
he drafts DB’s that he thinks have the ability in his system, soem pan out some don’t. He has never darfted a player on speed alone only a complete idiot would do that. If these guys only were speedsters and couldn’t play why were they starters on top college programs and rated so highly by the entire scouting fraternity. It’s just that you have to use your own common sense, that’s why you have it.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
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Lynn Swan, SOFT!!!- George Atkinson
That quote never gets old
August 8th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
My MUP is Chekwa
August 8th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
We all at one time or another have commented on “oh no, not another track star”. As Priest has rightfully pointed out that AD doesn’t, most of the time anyway, draft on speed alone. These athletes do for the most-part have some skill sets also. Now with that all said, I look at our current cast of characters lining up on offense, Let’s see, DMac, Ford, DHB, Moore, TJones, Schilins, etc. If I’m a defender on the other side of the ball and have these guys coming in my direction, all I can think of is “oh Schit”! Somehow, I think in most cases the middle and short area is going to be wide open because all the CB’s and safeties will be backtrack quickly to make sure they don’t get blown by.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
NutSack, what are you trying to say? Or, are you just having sex on your keyboard? LOL
August 8th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Watching footage of Moore from college, he really knows how to blow by people… he has a great slant fake that just propels him into his deep route… he does it so hard I’ve seen him fall down a couple times on his own though… he has great feet.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
If you stare at it with relaxed eyes, there is something unmistakable within…
August 8th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Knowing me, I could make all those errant strokes with a simple spank job..
August 8th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
A hint… One of the greatest loves of your life lies within.
August 8th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
-BHP’s MUP List-
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HayesDaze37 ; MM34 – S
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
MississipRaider; Zac Etheridge – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; David Ausberry – WR
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertbone – Barksdale – OL
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SnB ; Chaz – WR
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Gotcha Pirate Beard!
August 8th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
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August 8th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Schilins WR + MUP
August 8th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Anyone know anything about Chad Jackson? He didn’t make with the Pats because of injury but Jerry said:
BLTN Raiders notes: Don’t think he’s got much of a shot (previously rated WRs) but new signee Chad Jackson has flashed a time or two
August 8th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
MUP: Branch
August 9th, 2011 at 12:07 am
-BHP’s MUP List-
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HayesDaze37 ; MM34 – S
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB’
JB , Chaz Schilens – WR
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
MississipRaider; Zac Etheridge – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; David Ausberry – WR
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertbone – Barksdale – OL
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNutSack ; Tyvon Branch?????????
SnB ; Chaz – WR
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Gotcha JB! and SNS I don’t think Tyvon Branch is eligible since he was a starter.
August 9th, 2011 at 12:09 am
SilverNutSack I don’t think Branch is eligible he was a starter and this list is for underdogs and unexpected starters who were unknowns.
August 9th, 2011 at 12:12 am
It’s going to be a tough competition at WR Chad jackson is a warm body more than anything. But who knows he could surprise. He’s been in the league about 5 years without much production. Drafted on 2007 2nd rnd very fast inconsistent hands makes him questionable.
August 9th, 2011 at 12:23 am
I thought his hands were one of his strengths but we’ll see during the pre season.
August 9th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Anyone who hasn’t heard the Rod Woodson interview on raiders.com give it a listen.
August 9th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Mcfadden is my kind of dude…. living the life…. turn it up all u want u can bump ur music at training camp just as long as u perform like last year…. prediction Micheal bush and Dmac are going to be the number1 rushing attack by far…. they are peaking for us in their third and fourth years… vamped up line seems more younger and competitative…. man if we get a reciever who can catch 90plus and give us 10 td’s we will be playoff bound…. im very excited about this season…. and yeah I’m there thursday to see if this kid Moore is the real deal!
August 9th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Nothing but excuses.
The Raiders lost last year to good teams because they had a new O-coordinator and some young guys?
lol, so I show you that PLENTY of teams face such a situation, and win ANYWAYS!!
EVERY DANG TEAM has rookies or 2nd year guys starting, or new coordinators, and the good ones WIN!
We, sadly nowadays, just make excuses. Something we never did in the past.
August 9th, 2011 at 1:04 am
So this year when we once again suck on run D,
you guys will make the excuse that it’s because Goethel is a first year starter, or because we had a new D coordinator, or because a 2nd year guy started at CB, or some other lame excuse.
We STILL haven’t addressed our run D. Make it 9 years in a row.
August 9th, 2011 at 1:30 am
Code Black 2 011
August 9th, 2011 at 1:34 am
Alex 7: It’s hard to argue against a written record, and you are so right about our run defense. Those down years were heart breakers and it took courage to wear your Raiders gear when we were winning 2 and 4 and 5 games a year. And, mainly because we couldn’t stop the run and those years with fatass, loud mouth, shiz-face Rob Ryan. Man, I hate that fatass and his prevent defense.
On the positive side, we basically have the same guys coming back. Kelly & Seymour are solid and we should see improvement from the others. Even Hue said that Rolando is up in another level, he was only a rookie last year. We’ll do better. I say the top 16 or better.
August 9th, 2011 at 1:43 am
Alex 7: Basically, we were pretty close to being a
(10-6) team. If we would have had someone waiving a “Vodka bottle” up in the stands, behind the end zone,
then Jano doesn’t miss his 28 yard field goal with 5 seconds left. That’s a win against the Rams. And, with the 49ers, we were in their Red-Zone 5 or 6 times and came away with 6 points. We blew opportunity, after opportunity and that had nothing to do with our run defense. If we can cut down on our penalties by just
30%, cut the long gainers by 30% and increase our first down percentage by just 15%…then were looking at 9-7 or 10-6..maybe better! Go new Raiders under Hue.
August 9th, 2011 at 1:46 am
Well, good nite Raider fans. Have a good one tomorrow, and since it’s Tuesday night, now, we’re only 2 days away from game day.
August 9th, 2011 at 2:22 am
As Gruden said, you are what your record says you are.
I still haven’t gotten a good argument about why bringing back most of your players from a 29th-ranked defense is a good thing.
Oh, our rookie MLB is better. Guess what? Other teams’ running games are also better. They also brought in good players, have rookies who are in their 2nd year now.
One rookie improving a bit isn’t going to take us from 29th to top half. Come on now. How is that not off-set by losing our top secondary tackler?
August 9th, 2011 at 2:25 am
We have two pass-rushing DTs. Not good.
We have an OLB that is a 3-4 pass rusher. Not good.
We have two safeties known for their weak run defense skills. Not good.
And we have either Goethel or Groves at the other OLB spot. Not that good.
Oh, and we have a real schedule this year facing Peterson, Forte, Foster, the Jets running game, Woodhead and the Patriots, Ryan Grant, and the Dolphins o-line.
Ehhh.
August 9th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Future Play-by-Play:
Greg Papa: “…and Heyward-Bey is lined up wide to the right … and now, he’s yelling something across the line at the opposing corner … I don’t believe what I just heard! DHB just yelled across, ‘Hey, if I catch the ball, I wish you would not knock it out!’”
August 9th, 2011 at 5:34 am
Chimdi Chekwa is out with a left shoulder injury. Jeremy Ware, Walter McFadden and DeMarcus Van Dyke are getting reps, but none is standing out.
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CJ37 = starter opposite Routt
August 9th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Morrison won’t entertain the prospect of being a backup until he has exhausted every opportunity of being a starter elsewhere.
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Kirk Morrison = WLB
Groves is average. Goethel is a beast against the run, but HORRIBLE in coverage
August 9th, 2011 at 5:37 am
DHB…Good Job!!
August 9th, 2011 at 5:38 am
Good Morning Nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2011 at 5:41 am
As for DVD: Yeah, it is nice to know that Woodson is giving him a bit of a seal of approval. I think he’ll be an OK player. Because Woodson said he reminds him of Duane Starks, and has the potential to be “pretty good,” leads me to believe in 4-5 years, he’ll be closer to the Stanford Routt category than the Nnamdi Asomugha category. All I’m saying. Like him, think he can and will be a good player for the Raiders, but its not sounding like he is going to set the world on fire because of one mediocre review from a first time position assistant coach(albeit one that is a top 10 all time DB).
August 9th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Derek Hagan over Nick Miller.
August 9th, 2011 at 5:46 am
DVD = Duane Starks?
I’m cool with that!
August 9th, 2011 at 5:47 am
DHB looked healthy, sharp and ready to make a push for a starting spot for the third straight year
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Jhill,
thoughts?
pretty good for your 5th WR, no?
August 9th, 2011 at 5:49 am
been pulling 4 DHB sinse we grabbed him.Most in here realized that he would be a work in progress,knew it would take time.Most in here seek “instant” greatness or huge #’s from a 1st rounder.Well,imo,it all depends on the position that particular player plays.Besides QB,it’s gotta be WR.if you look only at the facts….DHB was 18 when he came.18.still a boy thrust into a mans world,for whatever reason.now hes in his 3rd year.I think he will have an above average year.But next year….look the fugg out!
I stated 3 years ago give the kid a chance.Hes gonna turn heads.like i stated some in here want instant gratifacation -,so maybe those folks should go stroke it somewhere.But we used to make rookies sit and observe.DHB never got that break.Now its year 3 and it seems he’s almost ready….I said B4 that we got him and he’s gonna break 31 other teams hope’s and dreams,Great pick Big Al
August 9th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Nay sayers and boo callers! Save it for the field – as part of the rebuilding process (It’s been a long ten years) We as fans have to drink a little Kool-Aid. I know it’s been bitter and un-sweetened for a long time. There are Raider Fans who don’t know a winning club. Stand behind your team, walk tall, walk proud, The Autum Wind is Coming,…..and it’s coming for you!
August 9th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
4eva…gad to see you on regularly again…
Rockstar, Buck…and all AM Crew…2 more days! Training camp stories is just that…stories! Time to get on the field and will the real Oakland Raiders please stand up!
August 9th, 2011 at 6:10 am
And a WONDERFUL AWESOME Day 2U Hwnrdr Brother!!!!!
Well said Raiderbuck….Well said indeed!
August 9th, 2011 at 6:16 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.4EVA,U STLL IN FLA. ?
August 9th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Alex7 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 2:22 am
As Gruden said, you are what your record says you are.
I still haven’t gotten a good argument about why bringing back most of your players from a 29th-ranked defense is a good thing.
Oh, our rookie MLB is better. Guess what? Other teams’ running games are also better. They also brought in good players, have rookies who are in their 2nd year now.
One rookie improving a bit isn’t going to take us from 29th to top half. Come on now. How is that not off-set by losing our top secondary tackler?
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August 9th, 2011 at 6:23 am
MississipRaider Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Alex7 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 2:22 am
As Gruden said, you are what your record says you are.
I still haven’t gotten a good argument about why bringing back most of your players from a 29th-ranked defense is a good thing.
Oh, our rookie MLB is better. Guess what? Other teams’ running games are also better. They also brought in good players, have rookies who are in their 2nd year now.
One rookie improving a bit isn’t going to take us from 29th to top half. Come on now. How is that not off-set by losing our top secondary tackler?
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First nnamdi’s tackling was a plus not a must. If we are depending on a CB to make tackles then we’re in real trouble.
Second you cannot underestimate the maturity of Rolo nd Houston. One guy seals the edge the other is like a QB of the Defense. When a player can read the play nd know how to stop it before the offense can execute that’s MONEY. Sure other teams have second year playersimproving
August 9th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Jhill,
thoughts?
pretty good for your 5th WR, no?
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Damn right it is!
August 9th, 2011 at 6:27 am
So DHBeast goes from potentially getting cut to potentially being a starter after just one practice?
Can’t wait for Beast Campbell to get on the field.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:34 am
As noted on the article, WR Derek Hagan might surprise and end up with a roster spot, maybe Nick Miller’s…but only if we carry 6 WR’s since Chaz, Ford, DHB, Murphy and Moore should make it….a former 3rd round pick, maybe the light finally came on for him.
Hagan had 24 catches for 223 yards and TD in just 7 games for NYG last year and from what I’ve read, he’s a tough run blocker and a decent coverage guy on Special Teams, always a key for this bottom of the roster players.
Giants fans seemed to like him for the most part:
“Derek Hagan: For the umpteenth time, can someone tell me why Jerry Reese and Tom Coughlin chose to cut Hagan loose at the start of the season?.
When they needed a healthy veteran receiver mid-season they were incredibly lucky no one had grabbed Hagan, and that he had stayed ready.
In seven games, Hagan grabbed 24 passes, the second-highest total of his career. It wasn’t always perfect — the time he spent away from the Giants showed in some communication issues with Manning — but Hagan did an outstanding job overall.
The Giants will be loaded at the receiver position heading into camp in 2011, and if they again choose not to keep Hagan I have little doubt he will quickly find a job this time around”.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Morning Dirt Lot!
Yep still in floritucky
Nnamdi is one of the best CB’s vs. the run,ever.Last couple of years RB’s would cake-walk through the heart of our D,bc Nnamdi controlled the LOS on the end.Amazing! Shonasty and my man Lamarr Houston,my 1st round pick that year,by the way….oh you’re too kind,thank you very much,anyway shonasty and houston are gonna have 2trust the LB’s and STAY HOME.We gonna mis Nnamdi vs. the run,imo
August 9th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders notes: For whatever reason (upgraded O-scheme, perhaps?) not nearly as many plays from Stevie Brown this year at FS.
BLTN Raiders notes: Regarding Stevie Brown, that goes for Hiram Eugene as well. He drew ire of coaches for falling behind WR on route.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if the UDFA Ethridege was Huff’s backup at FS. Also wouldn’t be surprised to see Moore make the team at CB and Ware moved to FS.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:44 am
still in Cable denial,Jhill?
August 9th, 2011 at 6:45 am
So now we are drafting “projects” with a top 10 first round pick? You clowns kill me —> tj, seymourglen666debojustwin.
Nobody in the Raider org said DHB was a “project”. This is nothing but irrational, delusional, demented blogger diarrhea of the mouth.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Look ere Mista….
So then you thought DHB was a starter at the very begining?
Anyone who knows football saw he was a lump of clay,just dying 2B molded
August 9th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Oh by the way,Good morning Mistbrown!
August 9th, 2011 at 6:49 am
MississipRaider Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Alex7 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 2:22 am
As Gruden said, you are what your record says you are.
I still haven’t gotten a good argument about why bringing back most of your players from a 29th-ranked defense is a good thing.
Oh, our rookie MLB is better. Guess what? Other teams’ running games are also better. They also brought in good players, have rookies who are in their 2nd year now.
One rookie improving a bit isn’t going to take us from 29th to top half. Come on now. How is that not off-set by losing our top secondary tackler?
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First nnamdi’s tackling was a plus not a must. If we are depending on a CB to make tackles then we’re in real trouble.
Second you cannot underestimate the maturity of Rolo nd Houston. One guy seals the edge the other is like a QB of the Defense. Think of how better our O played n 09 with Grad vs. Jabustas. Same thing will happen on D this year. Deer in headlights McClain vs. A studied, more coached up, in better shape McClain. When a player can read the play nd know how to stop it before the offense can execute that’s MONEY. Sure other teams have second year players improving but our players are just simply better. Rolo is 6′3 255 were I’m from that’s a Maaaannneee! He did pull a Randy savage on that st. Lou receiver last year. Houston is a freak with a dangerous speed nd strength combo who put in the time to get better.
3rd we have the same line coach who won a SUPERBOWL with a Dline with no true NT. We don’t have gap teeth but Houston is on his way. He may never have the sacks gap teeth has but he will be pro bowler.
Last nd most important, the O will improve by converting more 3rd downs, by scoring in red zone(49er,Cardinal game), by having receivers who actually will be a part of the offensive scheme. When we spread the D out with Chaz,Murph,Ford,DHB, nd Moore no team can stop that, thus resting nd conserving our D.
I do think wimbley is a pass rusher2 but he does well in our d. The other side is a big question mark though. Nd ur right our safeties can’t tackle at times nd that helps no one.
U right u are what the record is BUT u can’t ignore that this team was a couple OFFENSIVE TDs away from 10-6 or 11-5.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:49 am
If he was a project you dont draft him top 10 not even in round 1 or 2
Can you wrap your head around that?
Projects are 4th, 5th, and 6th round guys.
holy fk
August 9th, 2011 at 6:53 am
big fan Says:
August 8th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Now I am not going to say this to upset the DHB apologists, but think about it. DHB is your #5 wr, we know this. But in practice, the guy can fly. SO, given his speed up against our corners in practice should make the defensive backfield better. You know, take the pace of practice a little faster than that of the game. DHB is probably the fastest guy on two legs right now, so use that to the D’s advantage.
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I dont know man. Jacoby Ford said everyone on the team was too scared to race him. Id love to see DHB and Ford go head up.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Now now Mista…..
You know when Big Al sees speed like DHB,he’s gonna take him as soon as he declares,otherwise if DHB went somewhere else,Big Al would think he shot himself in the foot
August 9th, 2011 at 6:56 am
I’ve seen every AL presser the last 3 years and not once did he refer to DHB has a “project”
What a joke you clowns are calling DHB a 1st round top 10 pick a “project”.
He is a bust at this time nothing more nothing less, spin it all you want.
August 9th, 2011 at 6:57 am
4eva, right now I have no opinion of you one way or another. If you keep talking this nonsense I’m going to form one…
August 9th, 2011 at 6:57 am
JFord ran a 4.24 forty
August 9th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Put yourself in Big Al’s shoes Mista….
if you saw DHB,what would you do?
August 9th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Look the other way.
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# 4evaRaider Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Put yourself in Big Al’s shoes Mista….
if you saw DHB,what would you do?
August 9th, 2011 at 7:02 am
LOL! Mistabrown
August 9th, 2011 at 7:02 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 6:57 am
JFord ran a 4.24 forty
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Exactly. I know DHB ran a 4.3 at the combine, but I remember him being clocked in the 4.2’s several times at Maryland, although you cant trust em 100%. If its a 100 meter, DHBs strides might help him in the end. Any distance shorter, Ima pick Ford.
August 9th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Ok Mista….
You usually been right as far as the team goes,soooo
Where we at?
Where do we finish this year?
August 9th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Yep 40yds and under
JFORDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
August 9th, 2011 at 7:06 am
WR Derek Hagan might surprise and end up with a roster spot, maybe Nick Miller’s
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I love Bob Marley!
the blogger – not the singer
August 9th, 2011 at 7:07 am
10-6 or 11-5
SeaPerch could cost us 1 or 2 games as he does annually. If the Offense can score enough to make Perch a non factor I like 11-5.
August 9th, 2011 at 7:12 am
200.4evaRaider Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 6:44 am
still in Cable denial,Jhill?
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I’ll just say that I like our current HC/OC/OL coaches better than any staff since Gruden.
August 9th, 2011 at 7:14 am
4eva, when you look at DHB’s face do you see a man ready to take the bull by the horns or a scared little boy?
He is scared sh!tless.
The end
August 9th, 2011 at 7:20 am
lol!
that sould be SeaPerchski
August 9th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Stevie Brown & Hiram Eugene won’t both get axed.
Even if this Zac Etheridge kid makes it …
I think we’ll keep 5 safeties and AT LEAST 3 of them will play special teams
August 9th, 2011 at 7:21 am
well Mista…DHB MUST man up this year.He’s got some real compitition,even if Chaz dont stay healthy
August 9th, 2011 at 7:23 am
If he was a project you dont draft him top 10 not even in round 1 or 2
Can you wrap your head around that?
Projects are 4th, 5th, and 6th round guys.
I’ve seen every AL presser the last 3 years and not once did he refer to DHB has a “project”
What a joke you clowns are calling DHB a 1st round top 10 pick a “project”.
He is a bust at this time nothing more nothing less
when you look at DHB’s face do you see a man ready to take the bull by the horns or a scared little boy?
He is scared sh!tless.
The end
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DANG, Brown!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Mista…
I remember the game vs. the G-men.We threw an int.and DHB ran past the DB who picked it,LOL
I think he was under orders….do not touch anythin on the field,lol!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:25 am
What RRS?
Rather I beat around the bush?
August 9th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Thats why I appreciate Mista’s comments RRS….he direct and in the know….Now his political view,not so much LOLOLOLOLO Mista!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
August 9th, 2011 at 7:29 am
4eva, after 3 years of failed liberal policy you still have your head in your anus?
wow
August 9th, 2011 at 7:30 am
DHB will be 5th or 6th on the depth chart when the season starts.
Unless someone gets hurt he wont see much game time this season.
That’s my perdition.
August 9th, 2011 at 7:33 am
You voted out all of the Lib’s in 2010 remember the Tea Party movement.
It’s the government as a whole not just conservatives and liberals but our entire government that has let us down. You cant just blame one party.
August 9th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Morning, everyone!
NBC Sports is reporting Pryor will be partaking in the Supplemental Draft, to be held 8/17.
I hope Al takes a 5th-round flyer on him.
August 9th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Rather I beat around the bush?
Thats why I appreciate Mista’s comments RRS….he direct and in the know….Now his political view,not so much
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Brown & 4eva (sounds like a rhythem and blues group!)
DHB should have been a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. It’s not his fault Al Davis overdrafted & overpaid him
Is he living up to Top 10 draft pick expectations? no friggin way! Does that mean we close the book on him after just 2 seasons? I don’t think so.
I think a restructured contract full of incentives is in order …
August 9th, 2011 at 7:37 am
after 3 years of failed liberal policy you still have your head in your anus?
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mope & change!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:38 am
NBC Sports is reporting Pryor will be partaking in the Supplemental Draft, to be held 8/17.
I hope Al takes a 5th-round flyer on him
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Duck,
I second the motion!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Yeah Mista….if you cant see it took 435 reps and 52 senators 1 pres. and 1 vice pres t fukk this sh!t up soo bad you need your eyes checked,imo
August 9th, 2011 at 7:41 am
If me and Mista was in a group,it would be rythem and black and blues after awhile,I’m sure
August 9th, 2011 at 7:42 am
5th round why not.
Do yo think the Miami Dolphins takes a shot at him?
August 9th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Two more days until I am at the game checking out this years team in person, to witness the hype for myself!
I am pumped!!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:43 am
4eva,
done any recent hog hunting in Texas?
August 9th, 2011 at 7:46 am
florida RRS….
hogs cant buy a drink in texas,lately
August 9th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Do yo think the Miami Dolphins takes a shot at him?
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depends on how Chad Henne & Matt Moore are doing in camp, I would imagine. It wouldn’t surprise me if Pryor was gone to Miami for a 3rd or 4th before Oakland takes a shot at him in RD5
August 9th, 2011 at 7:48 am
4eva,
where did Florida Pete run off to?
Isn’t he the guy that coined the phrase “YOU PEOPLE”?
LOL
August 9th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Wow RRS….
I 4got all about fl.pete!
maybe he moved 2 minnesota to follow that LB he had a man crush on lol!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:53 am
maybe he moved 2 minnesota to follow that LB he had a man crush on
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LOL!
I think Raider O is still stalking Frantz Joseph, too
August 9th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Raider OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I loved that guy! hope he’s doing good at SDSU!
He wasnt opinionated or anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2011 at 7:57 am
RRS are you in the FF league?
August 9th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Florida Pete is in Europe attempting to break up Sasha and Anna Kournikova.
RaiderO is still mourning the Buckeyes and is planning his revenge against Michigan in a basement somewhere.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:01 am
LOL i was weak last nite after reading BHP callin out Kell
August 9th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Whats with all the baseball players getting in the Umps face and spitting all over them.
Thats disguisting to do to another individual, especially when you are a moral coward about it and you spit all over a man and say it was just spittle flying and it was an accident.
They should be suspended for at least 20 games and lose all pay during that time
August 9th, 2011 at 8:03 am
218.MistaBrown Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 7:07 am
10-6 or 11-5
SeaPerch could cost us 1 or 2 games as he does annually. If the Offense can score enough to make Perch a non factor I like 11-5.
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LOL Mista i remember the seattle game when he shanked the FG and you looked over to the section and gave the thumbs and said I TOLD YOU……i was pissed but had to laugh
August 9th, 2011 at 8:03 am
TP is a knucklehead. Please dont draft him Al
August 9th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Never weak Br ien…just pre-occupado
August 9th, 2011 at 8:04 am
238.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Two more days until I am at the game checking out this years team in person, to witness the hype for myself!
I am pumped!!
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Do you know what I am saying?
August 9th, 2011 at 8:05 am
252.4evaRaider Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Never weak Br ien…just pre-occupado
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I almost couldnt believe it lol
August 9th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Morning Plunk!
couldnt agree mas…no stinky pryor
August 9th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Man Taiwan Jones needs to get in the mix. I want to see what that kid can do at the pro level.
I am excited to see how DVD and Moore play this Thursday.
Another guy I think may be able to do something is Walter McFadden. He just seems to have that scrappy play that good Raiders DB have had over the years. I loved this guys game at Aubrurn. I hope he is a ball hawk!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Pryor isnt my type of qb
August 9th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I noticed that 2 CJ….
Wmc has the swagger
August 9th, 2011 at 8:10 am
are you in the FF league?
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Silver,
yes – I am in Dell’s league as “Podunk Express”
August 9th, 2011 at 8:10 am
I think this is it for Nick Miller. I would be surprised if he makes the cut this year. Fumbles punts, now he looses balls.
“*Receiver Nick Miller had a short pass hit off his hands and wind up in the hands of a cornerback for the second straight practice. This time, it was rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke who benefitted from the second chance.”
August 9th, 2011 at 8:12 am
256.CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Man Taiwan Jones needs to get in the mix. I want to see what that kid can do at the pro level.
I am excited to see how DVD and Moore play this Thursday.
Another guy I think may be able to do something is Walter McFadden. He just seems to have that scrappy play that good Raiders DB have had over the years. I loved this guys game at Aubrurn. I hope he is a ball hawk!
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Yeah im very anxious to see the youngsters out there myself
August 9th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Well…
3 Pm in Podunk…later fellas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:13 am
yes – I am in Dell’s league as “Podunk Express”
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LOL wow
August 9th, 2011 at 8:13 am
MistaBrown Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 6:49 am
If he was a project you dont draft him top 10 not even in round 1 or 2
Can you wrap your head around that?
Projects are 4th, 5th, and 6th round guys.
holy fk
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Cam Newton the overall number one pick is a project. So are Jake Locker and Aldon Smith. So was DHB. In all my life I have never seen one person get sooooo many things wrong consistently. What you should do in from now on is every single thought you think, take a deep breath and then say the exact opposite. You would be amazed at how life work out for you.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Pryor is a straight up gamble. From his attitude, to his throwing motion.
Plus, I am not to sure he can stomach playing WR or TE if he does not pan out at QB. He is saying all the right things but he wants to play QB.
Plus, I predict Campbell is going to have a good year. He finally has command of the offense and some weapons to throw the ball too. I just pray our o-line can hold up.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Do yo think the Miami Dolphins takes a shot at him?
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depends on how Chad Henne & Matt Moore are doing in camp, I would imagine. It wouldn’t surprise me if Pryor was gone to Miami for a 3rd or 4th before Oakland takes a shot at him in RD5
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Pryor’s got some serious question marks; 3rd round is high unless you’re CERTAIN his accuracy issues can be addressed. Then again, with Kolb in AZ, Miami now has on of the worst QB situations in the league (along with Carolina, Seattle, Washington and SF) so who knows?
August 9th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Most interesting thing imo for thursday is how Trent Edwards and Kyle Boller look leading the offense
August 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
if we build on last year the O-line is no longer a worry 2me
MAN-O-MAN its been a LONG time since I said that.EXHALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
MistaBrown Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 7:29 am
4eva, after 3 years of failed liberal policy you still have your head in your anus?
wow
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Actually, the economy was recovering due to liberal policies enacted after the complete failure the conservative policies that drove the country over the cliff. Then, conservatives took control of congress, focused on deficit reduction not fixing the economy, which incidentally is EXACTLY what Hebert Hoover did after the conservatives drove the economy off a cliff in that era. They created more of a mess then and they once again have created more of a mess now.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Taiwan Jones needs to get in the mix. I want to see what that kid can do at the pro level
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CJL,
Everybody was talking up TJ like he was the savior and Mike Bush was a Ron Dayne clone after the draft. Now that we’re into camp and both men are present those comments have died down.
Perhaps because Jones is injured, but he struggled with injuries and fumbles during college too, so that shouldn’t really surprise anyone imo
August 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Most interesting thing imo for thursday is how Trent Edwards and Kyle Boller look leading the offense
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Hopefully, we’ll get a look at LaSecla as well. We do need a developmental QB at some point, because we already know what we have in Edwards and Boller.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:20 am
mistabrown whatever it is you are thinking, take a deep breath and then say the exact opposite. Then maybe then, you will start getting things right.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:20 am
265.CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Pryor is a straight up gamble. From his attitude, to his throwing motion.
Plus, I am not to sure he can stomach playing WR or TE if he does not pan out at QB. He is saying all the right things but he wants to play QB.
Plus, I predict Campbell is going to have a good year. He finally has command of the offense and some weapons to throw the ball too. I just pray our o-line can hold up.
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JC has zero excuse now….after a while people want results
August 9th, 2011 at 8:21 am
I think this is it for Nick Miller. I would be surprised if he makes the cut this year. Fumbles punts, now he looses balls.
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CJL,
Murphy & Ford drop balls
DHB & Miller = still waiting for balls to drop!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:21 am
271.RaiderDuck Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Most interesting thing imo for thursday is how Trent Edwards and Kyle Boller look leading the offense
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Hopefully, we’ll get a look at LaSecla as well. We do need a developmental QB at some point, because we already know what we have in Edwards and Boller.
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Good point
August 9th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Without question the rookies on the Oline is what I’m looking to see.
Also the young corners and young TEs.
I think Meyers could be cut if both rookies play well.
Etheridge at FS is another guy I’ll be looking at. Can he bump Eugene or Brown off the roster?
August 9th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Cam Newton the overall number one pick is a project
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Sey Bush,
tell that to Marty Hurney & Ron Rivera!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:25 am
LaSecla = camp fodder
Jeff Otis, anyone?
August 9th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Walter mcfadden better start making plays if he wants to start in the future. We have a lot of young talent and some one needs to step Up. I thing dvd is going To get 4 picks this year and will be starting towards the end of the season.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:26 am
“Without question the rookies on the Oline is what I’m looking to see.”
Yes very true also like B@uce said seeing Boller and Edwards run the O.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:27 am
JFord Taiwan lil Nicky Rankin
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
these incredible athletes’ can get lost behind our HUGE O-line!
Everywhere I look our backfield looks INCREDIBLE.We are now geared to…..
TAKE IT TO DA HOUSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
on every play.The End
August 9th, 2011 at 8:28 am
“I think everyone has been impressed by Jason — he’s had an outstanding camp.”
August 9th, 2011 at 8:29 am
I think Meyers could be cut if both rookies play well
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Jhill,
Brandon Myers is a lock.
Gordon or Ausberry will stick as well. one to the 53 man roster and the other to the practice squad
August 9th, 2011 at 8:29 am
I know as we get closer the rookies get more nervous about Thursday….they living the dream
August 9th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Bombs away or Dump off
BRING ‘EM ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Nick Miller sucks!
don’t bother responding.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I can just imagine how these young guys feel being in the pros……talking with lil cuzin last night you couldnt believe what it feels like to be on the doorstep of a lifelong dream
August 9th, 2011 at 8:32 am
be back later…….check yall
August 9th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Br ien…
Must feel like
Comming Home!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:38 am
RRS,
I think Davis will give Jackson some latitude on selecting the #2 TE. If Meyers can’t tie up that spot, he could be gone.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:39 am
We do not need to waste a draft pick on T Pryor.
Had we not picked up Edwards, might be a different conversation.
Pryor is not better than the 3rd QB we have on the roster at this time.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:42 am
pryor=jascittlesyrup
August 9th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Not the same old defense this year? According to rod woodson we will be playing multiple schemes, including cover 2-3 zones, and doing a lot of pre snap disguising with dbs and lbs! This is great news. Now that turn coat 21 is gone we dont have the luxury of just lining up in man and saying come and get it. Also with romac now in his second year he has a much better feel for directing traffic, and attacking offenses.
Our d-line, the best in football, plus dynamic lbs, and speed to burn on the back end means this defense will improve leaps and bounds. Simply because now the qb cant just decide pre snap what he is going to do with the ball. i think chuck b is going to surprise people this year.
Woodson having played for some of the greatest defensive minds of all time wouldnt have signed on just to teach strictly man coverage. it would be an exterem waste of a resource. I also have to believe that woodsons influence along with hu jack and chuck b have the trust of davis in a way that fired marshall bill( john marshall) never did.
This is not the team we have been watching the last 7 years. This is BUlly Ball, welcome to HU JACK CITY!!!!!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Jhill,
Al Saunders loves using the TE in his offense and Saunders loves Myers.
hard to imagine Hue Jack telling the old man “no way! we’re going with that receiver from USC! have you seen that kid? WOW!”
August 9th, 2011 at 8:46 am
I think the Missle Mitchell comes into play.we could really disguise a 3-4 with the missle,turn Scott loose and its sack-city
August 9th, 2011 at 8:50 am
unfortunately scott has not lived up to the hype he created in his rookie year. I think jarvis moss is a real threat to scotts position and playing time. Moss played well at the end of last year and showed he could make plays in the back field. I think moss is a much better pass rusher than scott
August 9th, 2011 at 8:51 am
and Saunders loves Myers.
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Says who???
I think it’s up to Gordon and what he does on the field and in these games.
I hope you’re right and Meyers steps up and takes the #2 job.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Ausberry and and Boss will be the main guys getting run and te. Boss is a solid vet that can make plays down the field and in the redzone. Ausberry is a huge wr with unbelievable freakish athleticism. he played out of position in college, and when he learns the te position he will be one of the best in the nfl.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Pryor is not better than the 3rd QB we have on the roster at this time.
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Jhill,
Pryor is a developmental prospect. If Jackson & Saunders can groom a QB, we need this guy. Jason Campbell is in the last year of his contract and we already know Boller & Edwards won’t ever be franchise QB’s. Pryor has potential. The argument should be whether or not that potential could be realized in Oakland. As Kell points out, we’ve only developed 1 QB that we drafted in franchise history and it wa over 30 years ago. If the Raiders dysfunctional days are behind them, you take a chance on Pryor for next to nothing and hope he becomes the next Warren Moon or Randall Cunningham. Perhaps an earlier version of Culpepper or McNabb. Steve McNair or Mike Vick. worst case scenario I think he’s average like Vince Young or David Garrard … all this I say AFTER development
the Raiders need to starting planning for the future. that’s what good teams do.
August 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
let the compitition begin!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
270.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Taiwan Jones needs to get in the mix. I want to see what that kid can do at the pro level
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CJL,
Everybody was talking up TJ like he was the savior and Mike Bush was a Ron Dayne clone after the draft. Now that we’re into camp and both men are present those comments have died down.
Perhaps because Jones is injured, but he struggled with injuries and fumbles during college too, so that shouldn’t really surprise anyone imo
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RR I thought it was crazy to trade Mike Bush. We did and do not know what Taiwan can do. With DMAC, BUSH and Reece we have one of the best backfields in the NFL. To me adding a change of pace speedster like Taiwan would be a nice change of pace once DMACH and Bush has wore down the defense. Plus, you know one of the two will get hurt. But I read the same thing about Taiwan fumbles & often gets hurt. Now, if Bush wants to leave next year and Taiwan is the real deal. Sweet!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Mistic,
Brandon Myers = Todd Heap
get over it!
August 9th, 2011 at 8:59 am
pryor will never be as good as gerrard. pryor will never be as good as JC. If you take pryor it wont be to groom him to one day replace JC. JC will have a great year and be extended for the next 3-4 years. Book it
August 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Pryor is not better than the 3rd QB we have on the roster at this time.
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Jhill,
Pryor is a developmental prospect. If Jackson & Saunders can groom a QB, we need this guy. Jason Campbell is in the last year of his contract and we already know Boller & Edwards won’t ever be franchise QB’s. Pryor has potential. The argument should be whether or not that potential could be realized in Oakland. As Kell points out, we’ve only developed 1 QB that we drafted in franchise history and it wa over 30 years ago. If the Raiders dysfunctional days are behind them, you take a chance on Pryor for next to nothing and hope he becomes the next Warren Moon or Randall Cunningham. Perhaps an earlier version of Culpepper or McNabb. Steve McNair or Mike Vick. worst case scenario I think he’s average like Vince Young or David Garrard … all this I say AFTER development
the Raiders need to starting planning for the future
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RR I hear you but what do we do if Campbell has a great year and takes us into the playoffs? Do we sign him or weight for Pryor to develop? By the way if Pryor develops into any of those guys you named I would be very surpised. I watched the kid play at OSU. COuld not throw a decent out pattern. Vision locked down the middle of the field, but he is an athlete no doubt and won games.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am
302.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Mistic,
Brandon Myers = Todd Heap
get over it!
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RR really? : )
August 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am
if Bush wants to leave next year and Taiwan is the real deal. Sweet!
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Exactly – you gotta give TJ a season to prove himself
what if Rankin outshines Jones?
I’d like to think that Taiwan is another Jamaal Charles, but what if I’m wrong?
August 9th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Boss was under utilized in ny. i think we will forget all about that traitor z miller.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:03 am
pryor will never be as good as gerrard. pryor will never be as good as JC. If you take pryor it wont be to groom him to one day replace JC
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Mistic,
did TP sleep with your girl or something?
what’s with all the unfounded hate?
August 9th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Mistic,
Zmiller and “traitor” don’t belong in the same sentence
you should be demoted from semi-pro blogger just based on that comment alone!
August 9th, 2011 at 9:07 am
The players are improving, and we brought in even more talent in the draft and free agency. we have better coaches teaching better schemes. this will be a better year. my only concern is how long will it take for our young oline players to develop and gel. We must get wiz, barksdale and b cambell up to speed.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I mean between Scott and Moss.The D will work better when with the rotation Seymor discussed.I think we have a few guys that start but not enough room 4all of them at the same time.Is Scott comming or droppin back…is moss comming or dropping back…gotta love it!
August 9th, 2011 at 9:09 am
what do we do if Campbell has a great year and takes us into the playoffs? Do we sign him or weight for Pryor to develop?
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CJL,
if Jason Campbell has a career year, you give him an extension without question. Pryor may take 2 or 3 years. Give him the Aaron Rodgers treatment. Let him sit, watch and learn. perfect his craft
August 9th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Dude we had the #2 rushing attack last year…why do some say this or that about our O-line?It should be as good if not better than last year,imo
August 9th, 2011 at 9:12 am
I would give the job to Jarvis Moss and place Trevor Scott on the PUP list to start the season. He’ll be 100 % before mid-season and ready to attack some QB’s
meanwhile, that’ll give us ample time to evaluate Jarvis and decide whether or not he needs to go after the QB or ride the pine
August 9th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Our oline cant pass protect thats why it is in question!
August 9th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Started watching the lat KC game again.
Just finished the 1st qtr and I can’t stress enough how we need Wiz to win the starting C job.
Satele is not very good in pass protection and their seems to be a guy running free up the middle on our QB on every play.
Isn’t that on Satele and his line calls?
August 9th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Miller just got ABUSED by Hali and gave up a sack.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Oline was decent at times run blocking, other times they were man handled in the run game. the large rush totals are a testament to dmacs outstanding superstar talent, and the fact that many teams kept safeties deep in the second half of the year after ford and JC started going long.
The pass protection was abysmal, and had JC running for his life almost every time he went back to pass.
The o-line was and is a major concern. although at least now im confident that we have young talent being groomed to one day be much better than the incumbents.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Glo drops a dime right on Murphy’s hands …
Murphy drops the sure TD.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:20 am
I think its a combo of our very young WR’s taking a bit 2 long and JC not familiar with the book.Thats why some think we cant pass block.Run blocking is a more difficult thing to execute.The QB is 1 more year along now,the WR’s too!
This is the year of a very balanced offense,but a the same time,a very explosive O,imo
August 9th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Mystic,
our D-Line’s job description also entails stopping the run. They were the 29th best in football at that.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Thursday’s game is going to be rebroadcast on the NFL network over the weekend and on Monday and Wed of next week for those of us who don’t live in California.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:28 am
There is a lot of shotgun sigle back formations.
Working pretty well too.
TD to Charles Schallens!
August 9th, 2011 at 9:34 am
new post
August 9th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Alex,
im confident they will improve for a few reasons. Besides being 29th against the run cant be pinned on the d line exclusively, it takes 11 guys to be a run defense.
1.) shaugnessy will start from the beginning of the year. the run d really improved once he was inserted into the starting line up. he and houston are very good against the run at the end spots.
2.) the linebackers are better. Groves was barley serviceable last year, and romac was learning on the fly. Although romac evened out and started having a real impact over the last 5-6 games, groves never did. This year romac will be a much bigger force, and goethel who is known as a vicious run stuffer will vastly improve the run defense.
3.) Hendu is healthy. hendu went out for a long stretch last year and that hurt our rotation. The guys in the middle got tired. this year they wont in part because of the new tempo that hu jack has them practicing for.
4.) Disguising the defense will cause the qb to guess wrong a times and audible into disaster.
5.) Our offense will be explosive and put big points on the board. this will force teams to throw the ball in order to try and keep pace, much like the 2002 season. the raiders will not have to face nearly as many rushing attempts, thereby drastically reducing the run yardage they give up.
August 9th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Wasn’t Shaugnessy starting when we faced Jax, Miami, and Indy late in the season? Those were all in the final 6 weeks of the season. They kinda ran all over us.
I agree Goethel > Groves.
Henderson is sooooo old. You can’t count on those guys to stay healthy a full season. And he’s not even a starter. It isn’t like we know when run plays are going to occur, so whenever he’s in, one of our top 2 DTs are out.
Disguising the D? I’m not sure Bresnahan is an upgrade.
Our offense was explosive last year. With a much tougher schedule, I don’t expect us to finish 6th again in points scored.
August 9th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I don’t like the fact that hendo was talkin so much $hit before the jax. game acting like they would get no rushing yards on us and then they ran a muck through us. He better play better than that I like dez bryant hes up and coming. I tell you what its a lot better than our d line 3 yrs ago…..
August 9th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Sorry but Hendu wasnt in for most of those big runs…It was Seymour and Kelly in the middle….now the indy game they aced us with him in there but week 17 in kc he was a monster
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Alex7……seymour just as old as Hendu and hasnt been as durable
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