Raiders live chat during tonight’s game vs. Cardinals, 7 p.m.
By Jon Becker
Thursday, August 11th, 2011 at 8:25 am in Oakland Raiders.
Steve Corkran will answer your questions and provide analysis during the Raiders preseason opener against Arizona on Thursday at 7 p.m. in Oakland.
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August 11th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Go Raiders!
August 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
1st!
August 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
you suck Ryan …
August 11th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Just like in FFL, I will beat you down!
August 11th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Chiefs signed Gaither.
August 11th, 2011 at 8:34 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Chiefs signed Gaither.
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Hope that doesn’t come back to bite us for like 5 or 6 years.
August 11th, 2011 at 8:35 am
G’morning fellas.
Can’t believe it’s finally time for some Raider Ball. To quote Bart Scott: “CAN’T WAIT!”
Here’s my prediction for tonight:
The AZ coaching staff decides it might be more prudent to evaluate their new toy Kolb NEXT week, and he gets a quick hook after suffering a brutal beating in his brief appearance courtesy of LHouston, Shonasty and co.
I hope he gets up picking large clods of Coliseum turf outta his facemask.
Other than that, No injuries and Just Win, Baby!
August 11th, 2011 at 8:56 am
–”Chiefs signed OT Jared Gaither, formerly of the Ravens. Gaither apparently couldn’t pass a physical after agreeing to terms with the Raiders two weeks ago. The Chiefs are either more confident in Gaither’s health, or simply want to roll the dice on a guy that has immense talent at the crucial left tackle position. Gaither didn’t play a snap last season due to back issues”–
August 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am
lets hope both the raiders and the ravens’ physical staff made the right assessment… or lets say the 31 other clubs..
August 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am
linebacker Kirk Morrison is the only Top 80 free agent still on the market.
-PFT
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sign him, Al!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:03 am
I’m on the fence with H. Eugene.
He plays well on special teams and usually around the football. I don’t care for him to sniff the field on D though.
Could care less if he’s cut or not.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am
linebacker Kirk Morrison is the only Top 80 free agent still on the market.
-PFT
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sign him, Al!
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RRS,
Isn’t our weakness at the OLB spots run support (and apparently Kam was wrecking MFs in camp in the run game)?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:05 am
I have never liked Eugene..
But I always liked Kirk Morrison
August 11th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Deja vu Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:03 am
I’m on the fence with H. Eugene.
He plays well on special teams and usually around the football. I don’t care for him to sniff the field on D though.
Could care less if he’s cut or not.
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Hate to do this, Deja, but you couldn’t care less. Saying you could care less implies that you care at least a little.
I like Eugene on ‘Teams, but if Stevie can take his spot, he’s expendable.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Anyone know online site east coast raider fan can watch game live?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:08 am
What’s up with Tatupu? He’s not even listed as a FA on NFL.com.
Hi LMN. How’s things on your side of the pond?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:09 am
KTLA isn’t showing the game until 2 AM my time now. Original 10:00 PM slot was pre-empted by a rerun of Vampire Diaries…Wankers.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:09 am
I think Eugene is replacable if he’s just plays a role on special teams. It wouldn’t surprise me if he doesn’t make the final 53. I really was calling for his head after the McGahee stiff arm! Man that was pathetic!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:10 am
its wet! worst summer ever, 2½ month downfall in 4 weeks…
as of Tatupo, he’s done, he was great 3 years ago..
August 11th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Raidersfancc http://myp2p.eu/index.php?part=home
August 11th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Any news on tatupu?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:13 am
It will be a good thing for the team if Stevie Brown makes Eugene expendable.
Raidersfannc: A bunch of the free streaming sites got shut down a while back. Try googling the game or check the blog just before game time. Someone here is always on top of things.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:17 am
See…Someone’s already on it. Thanks NoLuv!
LMN: Wow…from drought to monsoon eh? As for Tatupu…If we can get him cheap enough he could let us run more hybrid D and provide decent veteran depth. Wouldn’t pay too much though.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Isn’t our weakness at the OLB spots run support
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LA,
I hear that ALL THE TIME on this blog and it’s complete rubbish. one OLB does not make or break your run defense. We’ve shifted through how many OLB’s the past 8 years?
It takes all 11 guys. the top 3 players responsible would be McClain, Seymour & Kelly. next 3 would be Houston, ShoNasty & Wimbley. your WLB is often in coverage (ask Jhill)
no offense – but blaming Groves for being 29th is just plain stupid imo
If it’s not the players, but the scheme – then the blame falls on John Marshall. But i’m torn here. If Marsh gets all the blame for the Run D, he also gets the credit for the sack totals
August 11th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Is the game delayed locally too? Sac ch. 4 has it in the program guide for 7pm. Of course comcast only updates their program guides every 7 years, so that doesn’t mean anything. Anynow, BRIEN, F#$# YOU!! Where you at, chump? THAT/S WHAT I THOUGHT!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
August 11th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Rock is a big flip flopper!
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BCZ,
I’m still a fan of Kirk Morrison & Johnnie Lee Higgins.
I was wrong about Marcel Reece & Jacoby Ford. Right about Darren McFadden & Michael Huff
you win some, you lose some. Last year my unsung hero was Travis Goethel. I’ve softened on that stance a bit due to his coverage ability when playing OLB (still think he should get a crack at MLB). Groves played much better as the season progressed
This year my guy is CJ37. I’m going to battle with him as my darkhorse
August 11th, 2011 at 9:23 am
MR, you off your meds again?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Don’t know about other networks but I remember KTLA did this a couple of times last year too. Guess I’ll have to nap from midnight til 1:45 or so.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Does KTLA have to move the game due to blackout rules since the game is not sold out?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Dakota, I’m just messing with Brien. It’s grown man stuff. Stay out.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Still like Goethel but you might be right about playing him at OLB. More of a natural MLB.
As for Kirk Morrison…Remember he had his best season at OLB. He just wasn’t stout enough in the middle.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Thanks noluv! You da man!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Yeah, I think that’s the case Dakota. They started this last year. They initially list the game at it’s usual time then push it back a day or two before.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Gaither to Queefs.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Happy RAIDER Day folks!
2011 Lets Go!!!! RAIDER NATION
August 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
30.RAIDER Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Dakota, I’m just messing with Brien. It’s grown man stuff. Stay out.
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Grown man stuff huh? So your mom is helping you then?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
LOL MR
August 11th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Dakota, a little hick like you will get crushed trying to get between me and Brien. Go fishing or pick raspberries, or something.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:34 am
As for Kirk Morrison…Remember he had his best season at OLB. He just wasn’t stout enough in the middle.
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Canuck,
Kirk Morrison has the versatility to start any LB spot. He’s a homegrown RAIDER and we wouldn’t have to break the bank for him
August 11th, 2011 at 9:34 am
there you are, you muther f#$#$r!! How many times is Campbell going to get sacked on his first drive tonight?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Isn’t our weakness at the OLB spots run support
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LA,
I hear that ALL THE TIME on this blog and it’s complete rubbish. one OLB does not make or break your run defense. We’ve shifted through how many OLB’s the past 8 years?
It takes all 11 guys. the top 3 players responsible would be McClain, Seymour & Kelly. next 3 would be Houston, ShoNasty & Wimbley. your WLB is often in coverage (ask Jhill)
no offense – but blaming Groves for being 29th is just plain stupid imo
If it’s not the players, but the scheme – then the blame falls on John Marshall. But i’m torn here. If Marsh gets all the blame for the Run D, he also gets the credit for the sack totals
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I’m not blaming Groves for team figures. I said our weakness at the OLB spot.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
But I always liked Kirk Morrison
“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
And Trent
I bet you are doing backflips over all the flooded dikes now that Trent is a Raider
Why didnt you sign up for Gells World Famous Championship FF?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Ricky Brown & Thomas Howard are no longer with this team. So basically, if we drop Kam Wimbley down to DE on occasion … we’ve got Groves and either Travis Goethel or Sam Williams at OLB
Right?
I’m sure we can all agree that Bruce Davis, Darryl Blackstock & Jerome Boyd aren’t going to make any noise on defense (if they even make the team!)
sign Kirk Morrison!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
MR, you off your meds again?
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Raider Game day
He always acts like a teenage girl on gameday untill Raiders start kicking arse. Then he goes off the deep end and shows his true hatred for all things Raider
August 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Rockstar: I’d like to pick Morrison up to play on the outside. I just meant that he’s more suited to play there. The fact that his best season came playing outside backs my claim up. He can cover out there.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Honestly, I think Capt. Kirk would be an upgrade over Groves at WLB cause of his coverage skills and he wouldn’t have as much responsibility as he did at MLB, just let loose on guys.
I just like giving you a hard time about your boy.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Really, we need another LB or two just for depth purposes. We’re pretty thin there. Any undrafted FAs looking good?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
All this excitement, best team we have had in almost a decade, best QB since Gannon, those bumbs that costs us so many games, Nnamdi and Miller, are finally gone, Al hired the best coaching staff money could buy, greatest draft class ever, and yet you people in Oakland still can’t give the great Al Davis a sell out in the first game?
LA RAIDERS ARE BACK BABY!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:43 am
I’m not blaming Groves for team figures. I said our weakness at the OLB spot.
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LA,
29th is a stat that reflects our run defense.
you don’t think much of stats?
stats tell the story of what took place on the football field.
sack stats = the Raiders were able to get after the QB
run stats = the Raiders were able to run the football
run d stats = the Raiders couldn’t stop the run
pass stats = the Raiders couldn’t pass on anyone
OL stats = heavily penalized, couldn’t protect the QB
the only variable stat from last season in my opinion is pass defense, because while we are considered a good pass d yardage wise, we gave up 29 TD’s through the air
August 11th, 2011 at 9:43 am
*bums*
*cost*
Damn it.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:47 am
If I go off the deep end whenever the Raiders kick ass, then I must be relatively sane!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Well, I’m oughta here. Have a great day Nation. Time to kick some butt tonight!
August 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
LA RAIDERS!
LA RAIDERS!
LA RAIDERS!
Move them home Al. Its not like the Oakland Fans are supporting you, so you might as well go after the big market again.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
51.RAIDER Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:47 am
If I go off the deep end whenever the Raiders kick ass, then I must be relatively sane!
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He has a point…..
August 11th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Al, if you decide to leave Oakland again it isn’t like there is going to be some big protest or something…..KK and Brien might carry some signs around HQ for a short while, but eventually Brien will just end up decking KK and going to jail after KK calls the cops….so no worries there.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Hey, I’ll be the first to hope Hue does a great job and that we (Raiders) become a winning team and dominant again. All this praise on Hue and he hasn’t even won his first preseason game. In the prior blog he was compared to Tom Flores (WHAT). Flores was our HC for ten years and won two Super Bowls. So, let’s calm down a little and take “see and wait approach.”
By the way, if Hue becomes another great HC, will Al trade him to Tampa for some draft picks like he did to Gruden, who then took the Super Bowl from us as a pay back?
August 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Dakota, choke on a dik.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I think part of the reason Goethel looked lost in coverage last season was the fact that he missed a lot of time due to a back injury. He was learning on the fly when he came back. While I don’t think coverage is his strength necessarily, I think he can do a passable job. More importantly, he’s better at shedding blockers than Groves or Howard which will make him an asset against the run.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:55 am
The Autumn wind
The Autumn wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
Swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won
August 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Question: How will the new rookie wage scale change the draft value chart
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
August 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Even if Hue is good Al’s going to run him out anyway, like Kiffin.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
LA RAIDERS:
http://www.sportspool.com/football/super_bowl/Superbowl_XVIII_ring.jpg
August 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
MR, if you despise a failure start riding pres BO like you do AL or STFU!
Hypocrite.
August 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
McFadden in Oakland=hated by 90% of the fans
McFadden in LA=superstar
August 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Same goes for KK, might as well hit 2 hypocrite trolls with 1 stone.
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# MistaBrown Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
MR, if you despise a failure start riding pres BO like you do AL or STFU!
Hypocrite.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
But I always liked Kirk Morrison
“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
And Trent
I bet you are doing backflips over all the flooded dikes now that Trent is a Raider
Why didnt you sign up for Gells World Famous Championship FF?
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absolutely! but I was more excited about the Smiley deal, well that didnt last long =) LOL
I have tons of Family stuff going, so it slipped my mind, and actually I thought I would get a mail, they spam me with a lot of other stuff, why couldt yahoo spam me with FFL season was starting..
August 11th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Hue Jackson in Oakland = Fans still want Tom the Wife Beater Cable cuz he is blue collar
Hue Jackson in LA = Celebrated African American coach with a superstar personality
August 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Looking at my tickets for tonight’s game listening to The Autumn wind!
I am pumped up for tonight!!!!
August 11th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Raiders in the Bay Area = eventual second class citizens to the 49ers in new 49er stadium
Raiders in LA = Kings of So Cal
August 11th, 2011 at 10:05 am
The day is starting off great.
Tigger wont make the cut the rate he is going.
He was pretty confident that a new regiment of roids and HGH would fix him up but golf is a different game
August 11th, 2011 at 10:05 am
LA to TheBay Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Honestly, I think Capt. Kirk would be an upgrade over Groves at WLB cause of his coverage skills and he wouldn’t have as much responsibility as he did at MLB, just let loose on guys.
I just like giving you a hard time about your boy.
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And THIS is the key. Whether you love, hate, like, or dislike Morrison, no one can deny that he is a better option than Groves, who has NEVER had a productive season. Not one.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
I wouldn’t talk about Cable being a wife beater if I were you. It;s common knowledge that Black men are women beaters and treat their women like trash!!!!
August 11th, 2011 at 10:07 am
CB need to step up
August 11th, 2011 at 10:08 am
64.Dakota Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
McFadden in Oakland=hated by 90% of the fans
McFadden in LA=superstar
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What?
August 11th, 2011 at 10:08 am
72.dvrick Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
I wouldn’t talk about Cable being a wife beater if I were you. It;s common knowledge that Black men are women beaters and treat their women like trash!!!!
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Amazing the levels you stoop
August 11th, 2011 at 10:09 am
67.Dakota Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Hue Jackson in Oakland = Fans still want Tom the Wife Beater Cable cuz he is blue collar
Hue Jackson in LA = Celebrated African American coach with a superstar personality
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False info folks……people up here love Hue….let’s think about Blackness of Oakland and LA……okay now I rest my case lol
August 11th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I think part of the reason Goethel looked lost in coverage last season was the fact that he missed a lot of time due to a back injury. He was learning on the fly when he came back. While I don’t think coverage is his strength necessarily, I think he can do a passable job. More importantly, he’s better at shedding blockers than Groves or Howard which will make him an asset against the run.
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YA,
excellent post, as always.
no doubt missing 10 weeks with a back injury as a ROOKIE late-rounder is going to slow your development. We selected Goethel out of AZ as a downhill player. He’s an absolute beast at stuffing the run, but he doesn’t have the quickness to play OLB. This guy should NEVER be in coverage. I don’t want to see him chasing little scatbacks or wideouts down the sideline – even your more athletic TE’s.
Whether he’s “good enough” in coverage to start at WLB remains a mystery. Now that he’s healthy and has another offseason under his belt, we should have a nice little sample this Preseason (possibly tonight?)
I’m still wanting Kirk Morrison as an insurance policy. If OLB is the entire problem with the run defense (which it isn’t) sign Capt Kirk as the solution
August 11th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Dell emailed everyone and we talked about it here for a month
August 11th, 2011 at 10:10 am
53.Dakota Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
LA RAIDERS!
LA RAIDERS!
LA RAIDERS!
Move them home Al. Its not like the Oakland Fans are supporting you, so you might as well go after the big market again.
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LA is not even an option Mullet man
August 11th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Dakota you gonna have to stop this….becuz its seeming like you hate the Raiders now becuz even LA cats agree where they belong….quit this man
August 11th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Dakota Gruden was a white guy with superstar personality and loved it up here….i dont get your point
August 11th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Dakota…..LA had 5 sellouts in their last 5 seasons total down there…..come on just stop it…you making yourself look foolish
August 11th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Dakota is trolling his country bumpkin keester off!!!
August 11th, 2011 at 10:13 am
B@uce got it.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Brien,
I realize you are nervous about the move to LA, but don’t worry, our beloved Raiders will once again become a team to be reckoned with. Quality free agents who currently turn up their noses at Oakland will flock to the only NFL team in LA. It will be a great move!
GOOOOO RAIDERS!
August 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
The Raiders would become illegal Nation and you can sit next to someone who boos the national anthem.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Dakota,
once Cali falls into the sea, da Raiduhs will be moving to Rapid City. See what you can do to get stadium financing in SDakota up and running.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:08 am
72.dvrick Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
I wouldn’t talk about Cable being a wife beater if I were you. It;s common knowledge that Black men are women beaters and treat their women like trash!!!!
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Amazing the levels you stoop
*****************************Actually it’s its amazing how many of you bash Cable for the same things YOU DO!!!!
August 11th, 2011 at 10:17 am
LOL @ Dakota doing his best MR imitation.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:17 am
on to the next one on to the next one
FREE
Somebody bring me back some money please
August 11th, 2011 at 10:17 am
When the Raiders moved to LA the time was right, except for the political situation…(The Los Angeles Colisem Commission)(made up of the Mayor’s appointments) killed the deal from the beginning. Every promise made to Al was broken and after more than a decade of fighting these “political, moron appointments,” Al gave up and rightfully moved back to Oakland and Oakland is where our beloved Raiders should remain.
In regard to LA, potentially the 2nd biggest market for NFL football in the league, they need a new expansion team, not someone’s transplant like the Bills, or worse, the Spanos family and their dischargers. Get on the ball Godell, add 4 expansion teams, starting with LA.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:17 am
MOVE THE RAIDERS – MOVE THE RAIDERS – MOVE THE RAIDERS – MOVE THE RAIDERS !!!!!!!!
August 11th, 2011 at 10:18 am
new post
August 11th, 2011 at 10:21 am
M Lonetree Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Dakota,
once Cali falls into the sea, da Raiduhs will be moving to Rapid City. See what you can do to get stadium financing in SDakota up and running.
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They won’t have to go THAT far … just to Reno.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:22 am
82.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Dakota…..LA had 5 sellouts in their last 5 seasons total down there…..come on just stop it…you making yourself look foolish
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Of course they didn’t sell out the 93k seat Memorial Coliseum, but with a new stadium close to Staples Center, which has proven to be a safe environment for Laker games, the LA Raiders will certainly average way more than the 40K or so attendance in Oakland.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:23 am
In regard to LA, potentially the 2nd biggest market for NFL football in the league, they need a new expansion team, not someone’s transplant like the Bills, or worse, the Spanos family and their dischargers. Get on the ball Godell, add 4 expansion teams, starting with LA.
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I can just picture that guy wearing that Vikings costume now, roaming the sidelines in sunny SoCal (lmao!)
August 11th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
The Raiders would become illegal Nation and you can sit next to someone who boos the national anthem.
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False. I live in LA. The majority of Illegal aliens arent gonna be able to afford to pack games. You may see more illegals than you would at another stadium, based on location, you might not. But trust this much, Farmers Field, regardless of who plays there, will demand high ticket prices. Dont know what your idea of how the average Illegal American in SoCal lives their lives, but they usually arent making enough money to enjoy the luxuries of football games in brand new, majestic stadiums. To assume that Raider Nation would become “Illegal Nation” just because they move to SoCal, is ignorant.
And just so my stance doesnt appear biased, I love the Raiders, and selfishly because I live in LA, would love to see them here so I can watch them more often, but its the OAKLAND Raiders. Always.
August 11th, 2011 at 10:46 am
F*(K LA
August 11th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
This totally sux!!!!!!
August 12th, 2011 at 12:45 am
85.Dakota Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Brien,
I realize you are nervous about the move to LA, but don’t worry, our beloved Raiders will once again become a team to be reckoned with. Quality free agents who currently turn up their noses at Oakland will flock to the only NFL team in LA. It will be a great move!
GOOOOO RAIDERS!
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2016 is 5 seasons away. The Chargers will be the 1st team to claim the LA market, which is a worthless NFL market.
August 12th, 2011 at 12:47 am
There are very few NFL fans in Los Angeles. USC is the game in town. Go breathe the beautiful smog, Dakota!
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