Coach Jackson conference call transcript
By Steve Corkran
Friday, August 12th, 2011 at 7:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here is the transcript from Friday night’s conference call with Raiders coach Hue Jackson:
Q: Update on Eugene, Schilens?
Answer: Obviously, I talked about Hiram last night, that he hurt his hip, a dislocation there. The other guys are, obviously, we are further evaluating some knees, and we’ll know more as we move forward.
Q: Anything you see from tape that revealed something different from what you saw live?
A: Yes, I did. Obviously, when you get a chance to go back and watch it all, there was a lot of positives. Obviously, there’s some things to clean up. But, starting with the positives, just the tempo of the defense, the six plays that they were able to play, it was outstanding. Obviously, SeaBass was incredible in the game. The offense kept the ball for 31-plus minutes, 20 first downs. We threw the ball with more confidence and more assurance. There was only one three-and-out the whole football game. So, those were positives. Obviously, there were some negatives, too, with the penalties, our issues in the scoring zone that we have to fix and, obviously, the explosive plays that we gave up on defense. Those things in a first preseason game are things that a lot of people are trying to overcome, and we will. It was good to see some guys really competing and getting after it. We have something to build on there.
Q: Is being better in the red zone a matter of practice, or play-calling?
A: It’s a matter of practice. Like I said, we’ve been there for two weeks and we’re trying to pack everything in as fast as we can and sometimes you don’t get to hit on all the things that you got to hit on right away. You get bits and pieces. We weren’t trying to truly gameplan a team. At the time, one time it was Trent (Edwards) down in there and another time it was Kyle (Boller). Kyle’s been around the team, and we might have had the opportunity to do some different things with him, but Trent hasn’t been here very long. So, you didn’t want to put a guy in a situation to try to do something he really hasn’t had an opportunity to practice. As we move forward, we’ll make sure that those things are all tidied up and ready to go.
Q: What do you say to the young guys who had rough games, that games are different than practice?
A: There’s no question. As I keep talking about performance. It’s the performance in games. Napa’s beautiful, very comfortable, very great place to train and prepare a football team. But, when it’s all said and done, you got to go do it on game day. When the lights are on and when you’re playing against an opponent. It’s all about performance. That light is on now. Our guys understand that. These young guys will come back and fight this week.
Q: Are you comfortable with the young players you have at cornerback?
A: I’m comfortable because they’re young players, and young players got to play to get better. It’s something we’ll continue to look at as we continue to move forward. But those young guys, they’ll step up. They got to rise up and play, and I expect that they will.
Q: Can they rise up in the next month?
A: Yeah, I think so because, again, you get back into the groove of practicing, you get back into the groove of competing, understanding the (tendencies) of people you’re playing. As you know, last night we didn’t do anything to say, Let’s go take some receiver away, to assist or to help. Sometimes you got to put them out there and let them fail a little bit so you can find out about them. Our guys will rise up to the challenge this week.
Q: You like that DeMarcus Van Dyke went up against Larry Fitzgerald right away?
A: Absolutely. And what I’m going to tell the young man, I’ve seen that man catch that ball on a lot of great cornerbacks. But the thing that was most impressive was the next opportunity that he had to cover him they threw another deep ball and he was right with him stride for stride and there was an opportunity there to make a good play on the ball. So I was impressed with this guy. He’s not afraid. I think he wants to compete and again, we’ve just got to continue to indoctrinate these young players into pro football. And they will get it. Every play you have to go out there and compete as hard and as fast as you can to give yourself a chance to have success.
Q: Is there an update on Hiram?
A: No, I don’t have that information at this time.
Q: What about Schilens?
A: Not right now. We’re just further evaluating what’s going. I think later in the week we’ll know.
Q: Some coaches make players run for penalties in practice. Are you going to have to do that?
A: Yes, if it continues exist. I want to chalk it up to two weeks in training camp, first-game jitters, out with the old in with the new, more emphasis on snap count and all the things we’ve tried to address. That’s what I want to say when this happen, that’s what I want to say it was about. If it continues to exist then yeah, we have to turn the page and try something different. I’m not going to just sit there and keep letting it happen. Obviously Khalif (Barnes) was very disappointed as were all the young men who had illegal procedures. As I said after the game, I was able to address all that with out team. They were very disappointed and they know it’s something we have to fix. I don’t want them to stress about it too much, but it is something we obviously have to take care of.
Q: Did Zac Etheridge get hurt?
A: Yes, he did get hurt last night. I think there’s also, there’s something with a knee and again, we’re getting all that information and we’ll get that to you guys as soon as we can.
Q: What are the main things you wanted to see in the game that didn’t happen?
A: I think the biggest thing I wanted to see was us execute our offense and our defense at the next level where when we’re in the scoring zone we expect to score touchdowns, and when we’re defending the scoring zone, we know exactly where we need to be. Sometimes communication things, there were a couple of communication breakdowns here and there. That this team takes the next jump from training camp to one preseason game now to the second preseason game. It’s time to turn up the intensity a little bit more and continue to get better.
Q: What did you see from the three quarterbacks?
A: I was impressed with all of them. Obviously, Jason (Campbell) did a fabulous job of running the first team and getting the ball to different people. That’s what we were trying to do last night is get everybody an opportunity to touch the ball. Got Kevin Boss involved real early, tried to get Marcel (Reece) involved real early, got Darrius Heyward-Bey involved early and Jason did a great job of spreading the ball around. Kyle came in and he lit it up, eight of nine, he was spectacular. That’s what I expect from him. Obviously Trent, who hadn’t been here very long, I was so impressed with him because here he is getting the information from me and trying to figure it out in his mind and then going out and executing pretty flawlessly. I thought he did an excellent job. There’s a couple of throws he wished he had back but I thought all three of those guys showed me the poise, showed me the hard work they put into this and they have the ability to lead this football team.
Q: Is No. 2 quarterback one of most intriguing camp battles?
A: It could be, no doubt, because both of those young men are very competitive and they want that opportunity. It also makes it fun. Those guys go and every day they compete in the classroom and they compete on the field and they’re very good friends. It’s a very good room and very good chemistry in there. I think it’s exciting.
Q: Might you give Boller more time than Edwards in upcoming games?
A: Oh yeah. We’ll see as we go. Obviously as we get closer, we get ready to play a game. I have to make sure our first group is ready to go. There’s no doubt. I also have to know what our backup quarterback can do. I think we have two very good candidates back there that we can pick from.
Q: How did things go with you in terms of red flag, timing, talking to Al up in the box? (This was in reference to offensive coordinator Al Saunders. Jackson took it to mean managing general partner Al Davis.)
A: I didn’t talk to Al up in the box. Let’s make that clear right now. I don’t know where that one came from. I was very comfortable. As I told you I have very good coaches who give me information. Obviously I threw the flag last night. It was awesome. The officials were great other than a couple of situations. I thought for the first night I felt it was a great night for everyone involved. Obviously we wanted to win the game. We didn’t do the ultimate which was win the game. But for the first time for all of us to have an opportunity to go play a game, be in the stadium, be on the headset, coach a game, talk to each other, get our players out there playing against a different opponent. I thought it was a good start. That’s all it was, was a start. By no imagination is that who we are or what we’re going to be. Like I tell everyone, we’re going to become something. I really like what we’re going to become.
Q: Did you think of going for it on 4th-and-goal from the 3-yard line instead of kicking the field goal?
A: Yes, I did. I truly did. All of those thoughts go through your mind but you know, there’s a time and a place for everything. The thing I liked about last night is there is so many different situational football things that we got to practice. We got to practice coming out. I got to practice making a decision, exactly where that ball was, as you’re talking about, at the 3-yard line. We got to work on scoring zone, which we weren’t very good at last night. We got to work at a two-minute situation. We got to work at the last three, four plays of a game. There was so many things that are on this tape to grow from and get better at that we would have already done way back in OTAs and mini-camp. Not against an opponent, but things we would have rehearsed over and over and over and now those things are coming up, and for the first time out of the chute to have all those things happen, I thought it was fantastic.
Q: Which of the offensive linemen stood out?
A: I think when I go back and I watch the tape, I really thought that Sammy Satele played good, I thought (Stefen) Wisniewski did an excellent job, I mean, unbelievable job. I thought that Stephon Heyer did some really good things. I thought that even Joe Barksdale was in there battling. I thought our second group, ’cause they played more football, obviously than the ones, those guys really showed up. They did a good job. I mean, our quarterback, there was one sack that we had, which was a communication issue and the other one was right before the half, which never should have been a sack. So for the most part, they kept the quarterback pretty clean. And that was good to see. Do we need to continue to get better? No doubt. But I think our guys, that front, is really starting to come together.
Q: That sack before the half that shouldn’t have happened, what happened there?
A: Sometimes when you ID a defense, the communication between everybody has to go throughout the whole offense, from the front to the back, and the guy didn’t see him correctly and those things happen sometimes. Those things do creep up on you when you haven’t had a ton of practice time.
Q: Jared Veldheer seemed to do a nice job on Joey Porter, so is he a guy you’re more comfortable with out there at left tackle?
A: There’s no question, and I feel remiss to not mention him. He did a great job, too, I mean, Stephon, Jared, Sammy, (Joseph) Barksdale, those guys all did a real good job, and obviously Heyer. I thought those guys battled last night and I think they’ll get better as we go.
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August 12th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
What happeend to Campbell? I was all for the trade, but ever since he’s been here, he’s lobbed the ball. He looked a lot better in Washington. Then again, we were suffering under the Russell garbage so maybe anyone would have looked good. Nevertheless, campbell underthrows guys way too much.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Here’s my newly revised depth chart
Offense
WR
85 Darrius Heyward-Bey 17 Denarius Moore 18 Louis Murphy
LT
68 Jared Veldheer 75 Stephon Heyer
LG
75 Stephon Heyer 60 Daniel Loper
C
64 Samson Satele 61 Stefen Wisniewski
RG
61 Stefen Wisniewski 67 Roy Schuening 74 Bruce Campbell
RT
72 Joe Barksdale 69 Khalif Barnes 75 Stephon Heyer
TE
87 Kevin Boss 83 Brandon Myers 86 David Ausberry
WR
12 Jacoby Ford 81 Chaz Schilens 89 Nick Miller
FB
45 Marcel Reece 25 Rock Cartwright
RB
20 Darren McFadden 29 Michael Bush 36 Taiwan Jones
QB
8 Jason Campbell 5 Trent Edwards 7 Kyle Boller
Defense
DE
99 Lamarr Houston 78 Tommie Hill
DT
92 Richard Seymour 90 Desmond Bryant
DT
93 Tommy Kelly 79 John Henderson
DE
77 Matt Shaughnessy 94 Jarvis Moss
OLB
50 Travis Goethel 52 Quentin Groves 40 Jerome Boyd
MLB
55 Rolando McClain 50 Travis Goethel 54 Sam Williams
OLB
96 Kamerion Wimbley 56 Darryl Blackstock 48 Bani Gbadyu
SS
33 Tyvon Branch 34 Mike Mitchell 40 Jerome Boyd
FS
24 Michael Huff 27 Stevie Brown
CB
26 Stanford Routt 23 Jeremy Ware 22 Walter McFadden
CB
37 Chris Johnson 38 DeMarcus Van Dyke 28 Joe Porter
Specialists
K
11 Sebastian Janikowski 9 Shane Lechler
P
9 Shane Lechler
LS
59 Jon Condo
KOR
12 Jacoby Ford 17 Denarius Moore 89 Nick Miller
PR
89 Nick Miller 17 Denarius Moore 12 Jacoby Ford
H
9 Shane Lechler
August 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
The throw to Reece was terrible and DHB had his man beat by a mile and he threw it too late and short. He haass got to get his timing down because you only get so many chances at that throw it ON TIME!!!
August 12th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Since Camp has been here I notived he tends to throw the deep ball down the right sideline out of bounds too much. Some of that is the rec’r ddoesn’t give him enough margin for error and some of it is he’s being to cautious. Just throw it on time so the rec’r has to run under it and I know he knows it just a matter of doing it.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
What up Nation!!!
August 12th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I believe the timing between QB & receiver will improve dramatically with some more practice time. My one complaint with Soup is that he seems to always lob the ball. He needs to change that mindset. There are time to lob & times to zing. If he’s going to miss, do it long. Make the receivers stretch to get that ball. Priest is right. DHB did no wrong last night. On that double move he cleanly beat the coverage and it would have been a TD if the pass was longer. As it was, DHB had to stop & come back. Too bad as it was a beautifully run pattern.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
The niners looked petty poor tonight. Lost 24-3. Their O-line is a disaster.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
LMAO about Glass Shillens…WOW! This guy should have been dumped off this squad 3 years ago..When is Al gonna wake up and realize that this dude is made of TISSUE PAPER! Good God, bring in TJ and cast this guy to the med clinic…
Unreal Chaz, unreal dude. Think about it QB’s are tougher than you. Your getting tackled by DB’s…Campbell, Kyle, Edwards all the way up to that Homo Tom Brady are getting the isht kicked out of them by Defensive ends, Tackles and Linebackers and they get back up..
You sir, are the definition of INJURY PRONE!!!!!!!!!
GoodBYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Because Chaz’s injury issue I think the Raiders may reconsider making David Ausberry a TE and let him stay at WR because he is the anti-Chaz. Or the answer to the question who will be our possession WR I think the “answer is Ausberry”.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Lol gradkowski the great backing up Dalton and went 6-11 58 yards but he brings energy….no talent or skill but energy
August 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Stephon, Jared, Sammy, (Joseph) Barksdale, those guys all did a real good job, and obviously Heyer. I thought those guys battled last night and I think they’ll get better as we go.
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No props for Savage?
Veldheer-Wiz-Satele-Heyer-Barksdale ????
August 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
FYI I got coach’s “Obviously” cout at 12 for that interview. Not bad for this early in the season. He might wanna work on that throughout camp. Left a few out there & probably a couple he’d like to have back, lol.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Grad the great!
August 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Carlisle is fkin 295 lbs….savage my ass in the power scheme….do yall watch football?
August 12th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
JB Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
The niners looked petty poor tonight. Lost 24-3. Their O-line is a disaster.
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We need that win next week. You must beat the bad teams. niners are bad.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
3.priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
The throw to Reece was terrible and DHB had his man beat by a mile and he threw it too late and short. He haass got to get his timing down because you only get so many chances at that throw it ON TIME!!!
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Agreed.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
I think Grad can lead an Arena League team to the title lol
August 12th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Here’s my guess at the final 53:
QB JCampbell, TEdwards, Boller
RB DMac, Bush, TJones
FB Reece, Cartwright
TE Boss, Meyers, Ausberry
WR Ford, DHB, DMoore, Murphy, NMiller, Schilins
OL Veldheer, Heyer, Satele, Lil Wiz, Barksdale, Schuening, Loper, BCampbell
DL Houston, Kelly, Seymour, ShoNasty, JHenderson, DBryant, JMoss, TScott
LB RoMac, Wimbley, Gothel, Groves, Blackstock
CB Routt, CJ, DVD, Moore, Ware
S Branch, Huff, Mitchell, Brown, Boyd
K SeaBass, Lechler
LS Condo
August 12th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Plus 2 more to be named
August 12th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
I think it would be a mistake to move Ausberry back to WR. There aren’t many S or LBs in the league that can handle cover that guy. Putting him back at WR takes away a huge advantage for us.
Chaz was not in the plans, hence him not being a starter. Hagan should be able to step up and give us what Chaz was going to give us as a backup. Heck Murphy can give us what Chaz was going to give us.
Pretty obvious the team is going to play DHB and Ford. Moore is working his way up to has to be on the field status as well.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Boyd was TERRIBLE yesterday.
You might be right about him being the 5th safety with the Eugene and Ethridge injuries last night.
And Mitchell is also hurt.
We need to hit free agency for another S.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I got a feeling Hagen is going to make the team when Chaz gets cut.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Now that I’m re-looking at the second Arizona drive the more I see DVD did a pretty good job. On the second pass (nobody talks about) DVD puts a lid on the play. They even switched Fitz to the other side opposite Walter.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
I’m really, really sorry Chaz, but you gotta go. I’m tired of hearing about “potential”, which most agree you’ve got in spades. With all the time you’ve spent on the sidelines, maybe coaching is in your future. I wish you well, my friend, but it’s time for you yo hobble off into the sunset. Good luck.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
MikieG Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
LMAO about Glass Shillens…WOW! This guy should have been dumped off this squad 3 years ago..When is Al gonna wake up and realize that this dude is made of TISSUE PAPER! Good God, bring in TJ and cast this guy to the med clinic…
Unreal Chaz, unreal dude. Think about it QB’s are tougher than you. Your getting tackled by DB’s…Campbell, Kyle, Edwards all the way up to that Homo Tom Brady are getting the isht kicked out of them by Defensive ends, Tackles and Linebackers and they get back up..
You sir, are the definition of INJURY PRONE!!!!!!!!!
GoodBYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Awesome post!
August 12th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
well if chaz goes lets get randel el in here
August 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
is victor cruz still on the giants
August 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Carlisle is fkin 295 lbs….savage my ass in the power scheme….do yall watch football?
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If you look at the Reece play Cooper lays a LB clean da fk out.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Although I like the young wideouts, I do think that a veteran presence would be helpful.
I posted two years ago that we should try and get Lee Evans from the Bills. Seven year veteran who’s a reliable, fast, good character guy with two 1,000 yard seasons on his resume.
Ravens picked him up today for a fourth-round pick. I’m a little disappointed about that.
August 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
personal foul Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
I’m really, really sorry Chaz, but you gotta go. I’m tired of hearing about “potential”, which most agree you’ve got in spades. With all the time you’ve spent on the sidelines, maybe coaching is in your future. I wish you well, my friend, but it’s time for you yo hobble off into the sunset. Good luck.
and is housh or T.O available we need to build that spot if chaz does get cut
August 12th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
How many people in here want a “Cut Khalif” club?
August 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
How many people in here want a “Cut Khalif” club?
iiiiiiiiiiii
August 12th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
We especially need to beat bad teams. SF Niners are a bad team. Enough said!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I don’t think WR is an issue as I was sayin g all offseason these guys don’t need a vet to show anything it’s too late for that if there’s aplayer out there to be had yeah but. These kids are going to put on a show this year. I’m telling ya’ the bar has been set. Moore and JFord set it.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Dude the 49ers = not a factor for a while. Looking at this game our team seems confident.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
You come in and compete and make plays or you sit no more taking 3 years to stop dropping balls and waiting for these guys to make plays. Ausberry will steal a job by the time DHB runs an out pattern.
These youngsters we have now are FOOTBALL PLAYERS………..period
August 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
You netter come in and make plays or find a soft seat because you’re gonna be in it for a while.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I don’t think WR is an issue as I was sayin g all offseason these guys don’t need a vet to show anything it’s too late for that if there’s aplayer out there to be had yeah but. These kids are going to put on a show this year. I’m telling ya’ the bar has been set. Moore and JFord set it.
so who is our possession receiver in the two min drill 4th down catch it or lose the game not the young guys
August 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Yep. I don’t see anymore players looking confused, except Barnes, and lining up wrong. The only thing is penalties.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Big Oak Boy Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I don’t think WR is an issue as I was sayin g all offseason these guys don’t need a vet to show anything it’s too late for that if there’s aplayer out there to be had yeah but. These kids are going to put on a show this year. I’m telling ya’ the bar has been set. Moore and JFord set it.
so who is our possession receiver in the two min drill 4th down catch it or lose the game not the young guys
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We saw that last year…duh!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
big oak boy Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I don’t think WR is an issue as I was sayin g all offseason these guys don’t need a vet to show anything it’s too late for that if there’s aplayer out there to be had yeah but. These kids are going to put on a show this year. I’m telling ya’ the bar has been set. Moore and JFord set it.
so who is our possession receiver in the two min drill 4th down catch it or lose the game not the young guys
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I disagree. From what I saw last night I believe DMoore can become our money guy, especially when he comes out of the slot against a LB or safety. This kid is a real Baller.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
In some sorta strange, twisted way the Raiders are stocked at WR. DHB is finally looking decent, Ford could have a huge year, Moore looks legit, and don’t forget Murphy is young and was our best WR before Ford came to life. Anything we get from Chaz is a bonus. And then you have Bodiford and Hagan catching big balls in the first preseason game.
Would be nice to have a crafty veteran, but even without one Campbell needs to put up big numbers this year. Arguably no team is giving their QB more dangerous weapons. Think about it, when Campbell drops back he has DMAC in the flat, Ford in the slot, and DHB and Murphy/Moore/Reece running routes. And Campbell also has the luxury of a great one-two punch running game. It’s like being given keys to a Ferrari—please get it out of second gear.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
JB Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
I disagree. From what I saw last night I believe DMoore can become our money guy, especially when he comes out of the slot against a LB or safety. This kid is a real Baller.
its a preseason game and he didnt pull a giants WR move and wow like victor cruz did vs the jets preseason i like him but he will need a mentor aka a vet wr
August 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Guys 3 years ago we had no depth and no playmakers but that was a long time ago. We have depth and playmakers all we have to do is play them. When you have a wet behind the ears big huge WR like Ausberry make a play like he made in that game you BELIEVE it. It’s not a fluke he’s showing what he is. That was the first time he ever touched an NFL field and he makes a play I haven’t seen anyone on this team make in years. When you see that believe it.
He’s well schooled you can use him at WR if you wnat to he can run routes he just need sto understand NFL defenses well enough to be reliable. So that a QB can anticipate and believe he will run the route and throw it on time in a window.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Oh yeah, and Boss at TE. Unreal.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
The throw to Reece was terrible and DHB had his man beat by a mile and he threw it too late and short. He haass got to get his timing down because you only get so many chances at that throw it ON TIME!!!
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its what he did all last yr. He needs to improve on the deep pass. He’s good with those short passes i always get nervous when he throws it deep. He seems athletic enough to get the job done just missing his confidence once thats cleared up it could become a good thing. Get it done cambell the nation is counting on you.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Ausberry is the raiders version of T.O.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Denarius Moore – Tim Brown
David Ausberry – Terrell Owens
JFord – present day Cliff Branch
Put it in stone…
August 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
DHB shat in so many of yalls cereals and he’s got plenty more to drop… don’t even try to come around like you support him once he shows up.. shameful
August 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Re-watching the game Heyer and Barksale look good
August 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
we have been on fire with the draft.. reworked that formula just a little bit, with more mind to character while keeping true to our philosophy of bigger, faster, stronger… oooooooooooh shaughnessy!! oooooooooooooooohhh houston! ooooh my oooh my…. oooh D H B watch him fly so high!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
DHB is on his way he just needs Camp to believe he will make plays once that happens LOOK OUT he is an impossible cover. He’s too big and way tooo fast…
Camp has got to hit him in stride and this offense will be impossible to stop. I do’t care what zone or freakish defense they run it’s way too much ability in this offense.
If the Oline does it’s job we’ll be in the playoffs.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Having Ford, Moore Murphy and Mr Decoy DHB should provide plenty of mismatch opportunities along with DMC, Bush, Reece, Boss and Ausberry.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
DHB is looking good and so explosive out of his stance….I said he would have a good year last year and was wrong, im going out on the limb again. 600yds 5tds
August 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/8/6/2349136/a-few-words-from-michael-bush-denarius-moore-and-nick-miller
watch this short 5 second clip of denarius moore. what a vibrant young man… just full of that special sauce you can’t mix and make… it’s gotta come out on its own, true and natural………
August 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Denarius Moore – Tim Brown
David Ausberry – Terrell Owens
JFord – present day Cliff Branch
Put it in stone…
all this after how many yrs dont put that kind of pressure on our guys i belive but i think we need help
August 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
severeraiderz Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
DHB is looking good and so explosive out of his stance….I said he would have a good year last year and was wrong, im going out on the limb again. 600yds 5tds
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thats about how im feeling… but ima give him 7 TDs… cuz hes gonna use all that power without fear this year and thats a scoring body
August 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
It’s a mechanism of Campbell believing when he throws it deep it’s not just a throw for throwing sake but a bigtime play he’s trying to make. The difference is he needs to have success that will biuld his confidence in these kids.
But it starts with HIM…..period
August 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
denarius moore colors the tips of his braids blonde… it takes a real man to pull that off… much respect!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
I agree we have talent at WR, Priest. I also really like the fact that the Raiders seem to have taken the approach of building this team through the draft.
Guys like Lee Evans generally aren’t available for a fourth-rounder though, and he’s better than anyone currently on our roster. Would have made us better, and at a very low cost. Sometimes you just have to grab a guy like that when he’s available.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
These have the goodsI haven’t seen plays like they’e making from raw newbooties in years. Have you??
Sure I’m excited, but I believe it…
August 12th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I am amped… I’m glad we didn’t bring in any big name WR… these men are ready to go.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Lets hope Chaz is not seriously hurt. That would be disastrous for the kid.
He has potential, he just needs to stay healthy.
Hue or Saunders made a bad play call by running a freakin reverse in the middle of the field, especially with Chaz carrying the ball.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Me and several others have been saying be patient with DHB for a while now, most notably BHP. His main issue is his with confidence and it looks like he is finally getting comfortable and confident in this offense and with his abilities. Ford and Moore were the best things to happen to him because they pushed him
August 12th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Here in KC, the Chiefs seem pretty excited about getting Gaither…. they seem to be ignoring the fact that the Raiders didnt want to sign him, which seems like a big red flag to me.. he seems like just the kind of guy we would love to sign normally..
August 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Some people just don’t understand what a huge barrier a lack of confidence can create… at the same time, that is a problem that can be fixed.. just, depends on the situation
August 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Hey Fellas,dealt with niner fans ALL day,OH MY,cant WAIT for Monday!Only concern is injuries,other than that,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
the fact that he was catching everything in sight last year before they put on pads clued me in that his hands werent the real problem
August 12th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
this shock top belgian white is terrible
August 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
but many take a sinister satisfaction in bashing the guy… its a sort of release that probably saves their loved ones at least.. I am a true Raider fan… i get out all that negative energy on the wife before I think about my Raiders!
August 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
the new guys have to pass the jlh test take a big hit and keep on playing
August 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
big oak boy Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
the new guys have to pass the jlh test take a big hit and keep on playing
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good point
August 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
moore looked really fast on that punt return… a read some draft reports questioning his acceleration.. sometimes i think they just need to come up with something to say for so many players they just start making up little things..
August 12th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Lets not get too happy, until we see DHB get it done on the field.
Only guys Huey and Al need to run reverses with are Ford, Moore and DHB.
They can’t be running reverses with Murphy or Chaz. Ugh
August 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Campbell and DHB haven’t had a lot of reps together since summer camp. Timing takes reps. Nice pass to “D-Wow” Moore across the middle. They have more reps together since the official camp opened. Edwards to Ausberry was nice too
August 12th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
just seen T.O doing ladder drills he still looks good he could bring some swag to our WR corps
August 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
SNS
People forget that at the combine he was catching everything and looked great. His draft position put a lot of pressure on him and he was pressing
August 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
JHill & JB:
I think we need to keep Mr. Ausberry at TE as well.
He is the same prototype as HOF Sharpe, I know he played for Denver & Baltimore, the man does love his family, we must give him major accolades for that.
Sharpe was to big to be a WR and to fast to be just a TE, very athletic; just as Ausberry is very athetic TE/WR hybrid.
Mr. Boss as our starting TE, with David as his backup with Gordon, Brock, & Myers battling for the 3rd spot. (Mr. Gordon will definately end up on our practice squad if he does not make the final cut).
August 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
1yr 1.7mill with incentives up to 3mill
August 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Okung is out for 6-8 weeks I’ve been hearing here in WA, sports radio; they (Seahawks)are negotiating with Mr. L. Walker for his services, but so are at least two other teams.
Raiders just might want to see if Seattle is willing to make a trade for Mr. Barnes, Mr. Loper, or Mr. Carlisle. if we can get a late round pick for one of them that would be great.
according to John Clayton Raiders and LB Tatupu are still in contact with each other.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
that is a safe deal 4 T.O.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Hendu Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Hey Fellas,dealt with niner fans ALL day,OH MY,cant WAIT for Monday!Only concern is injuries,other than that,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don’t tell me about it. All the whiner fans at my job somehow think their team is better than ours was last season.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
I wouldn’t bring T.O. in here for nothing for FREE we don’t need him.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
DKnight I think the reverse was more for the timing of the line and selling of it by other players, and keeping future D coord on their heels and guessing.
with Mr. Ford injured, Mr. Moore a rookie he and Mr. Heyward-Bey needed morer reps in receptions.
If Mr. Schilens is injured to the point of missing games I think the Raiders will either IR or injure/waive him this season. We cannot afford to spend a roster spot or sacrifice reps of another WR on Chaz possibly playing half a season again.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
I wouldn’t bring T.O. in here for nothing for FREE we don’t need him.
he will produce always has better than anyone we have right now
August 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
O-line, DBs, Coaching. If they’re solid, we’re good.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Raiders need more Moores.
Sterling & Denarius will make the pro-bowl wearing the helmut of the silver & black!
August 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Hiram down. Etheridge knee concerns. Need to look at FA list for safety depth
August 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
I don’t want to cut a young player just to bring his freakin ego in here for one year. It does us no good in the long haul. I HATE T.O.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Could Chaz go to the Raider Hall of Fame with the least amount of games?!
August 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Raider J Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Hiram down. Etheridge knee concerns. Need to look at FA list for safety depth
al always liked taylor mays
August 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Vehldeer Heyer Satele Wisniewski Barksdale
could see Wiz & Heyer switdh so as not to have two rookies side by side
backups: Campbell, Schuening, Lamaak, and [two of the following: Loper-Barnes-Carlisle-Pelc-Parsons-Eliades-FA/trade]
August 12th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
I don’t want to cut a young player just to bring his freakin ego in here for one year. It does us no good in the long haul. I HATE T.O.
u should get some of that hate out of your heart cut the fake 81 and put in the real one
August 12th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
If the starters go hard the next game, that means the youngstas can get more PT in the 3rd and 4th games.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Vehldeer Heyer Satele Wisniewski Barksdale
could see Wiz & Heyer switdh so as not to have two rookies side by side
backups: Campbell, Schuening, Lamaak, and [two of the following: Loper-Barnes-Carlisle-Pelc-Parsons-Eliades-FA/trade]
is waters singed already
August 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
If he could shut his mouth and play it would be different, But he has never been able to do that HE is POISON!!
August 12th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
I think Al & Hue should talk to Mays.
His contract would not be much.
DBs:
CBs: Routt, Johnson/Huff
backups: Van Dyke, Moore, and [2 of four: Chekwa, Ware, McFadden, Porter]
S: FS- Huff/Branch/ or Brown
SS- Branch or Mitchell
backups: Mitchell & Brown
we could see Chekwa becoming one of the back up safeties
note: I think Huff still might be a CB especially if Routt or CJ37 get injured.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
If he could shut his mouth and play it would be different, But he has never been able to do that HE is POISON!!
with a decent qb and a owner like ours backing him this could be a make or brake season for T.O get that hate out of your heart
August 12th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
DHB is still a horrible receiver. I guess that one catch is all brown hole priest needs to catch wood. If catches 20 passes I will fall over. D Bowe could have more receptions wearing oven mitts. He sux.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
This young squad is too impressionable and the team leadership isn’t established enough to bring in T.O. & his camera crew. Great player. I hope to see him play somewhere…else
August 12th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RaiderRetribution
he is a USC guy
August 12th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Just say N.O. to T.O.!
August 12th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Moore and Ford will be the playmakers and Murphy should be the third. Anything that come from DHB and Chaz would be an unexpected bonus. Moore may burst on the scene and grab 70 balls…I would not be surprised.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Just say N.O. to T.O.!
i bet if we made the playoffs with T.O u would find a way to say if he wasn’t hear we would have went to the super bowl
get that hate out of your heart
August 12th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
T.O. As old as he is he is still in GREAT SHAPE!! Big body and can get down the field lets cut our losses for chaz and give it to T.O. or give chaz a new number if chaz will be out(which is most likely)
August 12th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Moore and Ford will be the playmakers and Murphy should be the third. Anything that come from DHB and Chaz would be an unexpected bonus. Moore may burst on the scene and grab 70 balls…I would not be surprised.
so he will be better than mike willams from tampa this yr
August 12th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
It’s pointless because there is NO WAY he’s coming here………….period
August 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
big fan Says:
OK Tj, what if my MUP W McFadden gets cut? Do I come off the list (probably so?) or do I get another pick? And were you able to gather any points on how to score this thing, and fine tune the rules?
Just wonderin……………
repost, again
August 12th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
TheGeneral Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
T.O. As old as he is he is still in GREAT SHAPE!! Big body and can get down the field lets cut our losses for chaz and give it to T.O. or give chaz a new number if chaz will be out(which is most likely)
spoken like a real general
August 12th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
It’s pointless because there is NO WAY he’s coming here………….period
says who u mr davis
August 12th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
T.O. aint the T.O. of old. I would suspect the dude may be a little more tender having been out for a while and such. After sweating thru the Moss season, just say NO TO T.O.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Big Fan you just pick someone else….if he gets cut which I highly doubt it. The young kid is just getting his feet under no big deal. He wont get cut..
August 12th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
If Coach Davis wanted TO, he would be in Raider uniform as we speak. Coach just dont want him, its that simple.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
chad and T.O are friends and chad and hue are tight so that means if chaz is injured i see chad putting in a good word for his boy for gis other boy hue
August 12th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Keep wishing! nothing wrong with it.
August 12th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Tj, after season starts are you and BT707 going to post rankings per MUP?
August 12th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
big fan Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
If Coach Davis wanted TO, he would be in Raider uniform as we speak. Coach just dont want him, its that simple.
he might come and he might not come but if he does it will be a great show to watch
August 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
It is up to Coach Davis. Coach has had bad experiences with FAs’ and big names with baggage, He dont care to have TO on board. I just dont get it. If Coach Davis wanted TO, he would be here. I’ve seen it too many times.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
It could be a great show barring any side shows. But what if Hue wanted to pound the ball on the ground say 70-80% of the plays and when JC does pass, TO dont get the ball thrown his way. What would that do to the locker room? I dont think the risk is worth the reward, considering the wrs’ we got. Could TO be the seasoned vet ready to mentor the young guys? Just question marks Big Oak.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Yeah we have to figure out how to set points so that they can be accumulated and post them. I had some idea of how to do it but I lost track of the post I made if someone can go into tghe archive and find them I’ll organize them and post them for everyone to see and keep up.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
big fan remember when big rich sup possibly didnt want to come here but that worked if T.O feels wanted he will simmer down like in buffalo
August 12th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Big fan it’s obvious they don’t want T.O. here they had the chance to get him a couple of times and passed everytime.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Even though it is on display here regularly,the garbage spewed by some never ceases to amaze me.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
big fan Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
It could be a great show barring any side shows. But what if Hue wanted to pound the ball on the ground say 70-80% of the plays and when JC does pass, TO dont get the ball thrown his way. What would that do to the locker room? I dont think the risk is worth the reward, considering the wrs’ we got. Could TO be the seasoned vet ready to mentor the young guys? Just question marks Big Oak.
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Spot on analysis
August 12th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Any word on TATUPU
August 12th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
but TO would be cool for madden
August 12th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
i want tatupu, although i would be pretty worried about those knees
August 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Even though it is on display here regularly,the garbage spewed by some never ceases to amaze me.
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Its part of what makes this the blog of blogs. Some of it is plain halarious. But some of the baiting and anger is garbage for sure.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
The time to get TO would have been 3 years ago. Not worth it now.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Big fan it’s obvious they don’t want T.O. here they had the chance to get him a couple of times and passed everytime.
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If the organization wanted TO here, he would be here. Past, present, or future. It is really that simple.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
given the anonymity inherent to a blog such as this, i would find it shocking if delicious garbage wasn’t spewed..
August 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
I guess I missed it but did it ever come out why we kicked off after halftime?Was it because we used the wrong lingo after winning the coin toss-instead of saying we defer we said we choose to KO?
August 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
SilverNutSack Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
given the anonymity inherent to a blog such as this, i would find it shocking if delicious garbage wasn’t spewed..
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given the enviroment and the particular subject matter, the nature of the particular subject matter and the peculiar matter of the subject, it is only natural that the garbage does get spewed. It is borderline logical for that matter.
While that may be good or bad to some, it is definately a subject matter for debate.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
I guess I missed it but did it ever come out why we kicked off after halftime?Was it because we used the wrong lingo after winning the coin toss-instead of saying we defer we said we choose to KO?
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I think somewhere there is a rule that allows you to do that, kick twice, and Hue did it because he wanted hi D on the field more. For whatever reason I dont know.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Lefty12
Actually we misspoke and were penalized for it. I don’t know what the proper verbage is but we didn’t use it.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Getting Lofa in here at a bargain would bring more leadership to the LB corp and Defense.
The Raiders will also need to scan the waiver wire for a vet CB.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
The time to get T.O. would have been about 15 years ago. And I’m not going to call him a “wrecking ball” like so many lame ass niner and eagle fans. Gimme a break. Guy played in a SB with a disconnected bone flapping around from his body, and had a good game, while McNabb was the one that quit. The big, slow, fat ass who’s famous for being black. Oh, I kid about the last part. Shame on me for spreading Rush Limbaaaws hell spawned race baiting. It’s b.s. anyway. McNabb’s solid. But goodness gracious he’s a f’n baby. Sometimes I wonder if T.O. is just a man playing in a league of pampered children. I remember watching that reality show, where he met his father in some small town in the south. I guess the last time he saw him before that was when he was like 8. So, sorry he hurt your feelings, McNabb. It’s just that he went through things you couldn’t imagine while you played with your action figures in the tree house your dad built for you. Put T.O. on the ‘76 Raiders, and after the soul patrol makes him cough up a little blood on the 40 yard line, he’s one of the guys. But today, he’s just old. And I can’t picture a queen like Campbell having thick enough skin to put up with his jive. Gotta say pass.
August 12th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
What is your early opinion of DHB Lefty12?
August 12th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Why do we need a vet CB?? we have 2! and some yound second year kids that can play. They may go get another safety with the two guys going down but why a CB?
August 12th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Rockgotti25 Rock Cartwright
RaiderNation please please pray for Hiram Eugene..
August 13th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Priest,I didn’t see the game,I’m watching it now.However,I listened to it last night on the radio.From what I could tell,he played the way we expect him to.According to Papa,Flores,and Plunkett he made a good move on the pass he caught to get the yardage,he beat the CB on a good move to get open and behind him on the other pass.If what he did last night is any indication,he will have a good,breakout year.You know I’m one of his biggest supporters.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Priest,if we were to get another safety it would probably be just another body for camp as we are pretty deep already.IMO,Eugene is no big loss.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:05 am
I just don’t get all the talk about picking up other teams castoffs.We’ve drafted well the last few years,lets let the kids make their marks.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Priest what are you thoughts about Kelvin Hayden? Isn’t he more a zone guy (Hall part 2)
August 13th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Alright,the long pass to DHB just happened.He was way(by pro standards) behind the CB.I read on here where some were blaming him for not coming back and making the catch.Do those people know anything about football?He did a good job just knocking the ball down.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:24 am
The WR position is one of the positions we should have no concerns about.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:01 am
Persomally that’s my thoughts about Hayden he’s a cover2 corner he’s a good one though.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:03 am
I can’t believe these guys want T.O. in here at this point. What for just to run his mouth and throw someone unde the bus. Then leave town……..Hell NO!
August 13th, 2011 at 1:51 am
Who wants TO?
August 13th, 2011 at 2:50 am
CODE BLACK NEVER SLEEPS YOU BIZZLES!
August 13th, 2011 at 3:42 am
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Denarius Moore – Tim Brown
David Ausberry – Terrell Owens
JFord – present day Cliff Branch
Put it in stone…
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Just like DHB was Jerry Rice a few months ago.
This type of stuff is why you get clowned so much. Lets see them in a real game before we start comparing late draft picks to Hall of Fame type caliber players.
August 13th, 2011 at 5:35 am
TATUPU OR MORRISON i will be cool with
August 13th, 2011 at 8:34 am
About time!
I feel sorry for Dalton & Grads and I hit my knees with thanks that we are not the bungles.
The Squaws will be lucky to win 6 games this year
August 13th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Finally got to review the film this morning.
A few takes:
-I thought Soup looked a lot better than even some of the Glo supporters said. The PI call on Reece I thought was a good throw, it’s not like Reece was open, he put the ball in the only place the DB would not be able to make a play, and the young DB panicked and used his hands and drew the foul. Great throw if you ask me.
-The DHB “underthrow” wasn’t that bad either. Contrary to the way people in here wanted to describe it, DHB had a stride on the guy underneath, but had a man over the top. If Soup throws it further down the field, he either throws it to the Safety, or leads DHB into a big-hit. It was the perfect ball placement, he just needed some more mustard on it.
-Didn’t like what I say from DVD. Granted first game, and lots to improve on, I get all that. But one thing I also look for in a rookie early, is their comfort zone in what usually comes fairly easy for their position. You see Wiz 2.0, struggle with the nuances of snapping and snap count, but he could run block no problem. Dannarius Moore probably isn’t a good blocker yet, doesn’t know half the playbook, but when the ball is in the air, he knows what to do and does it, as he did on his first NFL snap. On the Fitz completion, DVD is staring into the backfield the whole play, has a perfect beat on the ball……and doesn’t even go up for it. A young DB should struggle at a lot of things, but competing for a jump ball should not be one of them. It was like he thought he was going to get an NFL int, by just letting the ball fall into his lap. Not natural-looking at all, IMO.
-Cooper Carlisle, as he was last year, is our best O-lineman. Pancake block on the screen, and watched 10 Soup dropbacks, and Carlisle’s man never touched him. Pulled nicely on the Bush 3rd down run to get us out of the shadow of our goal-posts. Next time someone starts ragging on Carlisle, I want SPECIFIC PLAYS where one feels he didn’t do his job. Because I watch and re-watch, and his man is usually not involved in the play.
-Bummer on the Eugene injury. He plays well on Special Teams, plays on all teams units, and is a servicable backup safety. Missing him on teams means someone else has to play that isn’t use to playing on teams, or at least in the role Hiram plays it.
August 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Film?
August 13th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Yes film. Semi-pro nomenclature for watching the game on DVR.
August 13th, 2011 at 8:56 am
And Hue kicking off in both halves, due to not having his team captains prepared to say the right thing?
I would say it was kind of funny and chalk it up to inexperience, only Hiram got hurt on that ensuing defensive drive that never should have happened.
I could just imagine the cat-calls and jokes of intelligence levels if Tom Cable made the same gaffe.
Come on Hue, get it together!!!
August 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
139.priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Why do we need a vet CB?? we have 2! and some yound second year kids that can play. They may go get another safety with the two guys going down but why a CB?
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That’s precisely the problem: they play and they get burned. We need them not to play. Maybe they can watch from the Old Creeper’s loge and learn directly from “coach.”
August 13th, 2011 at 9:04 am
What part of Ohio are you from?
Go Raiders!
August 13th, 2011 at 10:01 am
that pass from jc wasnt a good place to throw it. jc needs to throw that ball on a line right away so dhb can run in full stride. aint no way dhb is at fault for that.dvd had good coverage on fitz but the throw was to the outside shoulder where he could catch it. i dont see dvd having bad ball skills cuz of 1 throw. as i said from day 1 sterling moore is going to make some
heads turn.
August 13th, 2011 at 10:05 am
jfb i read some of what u said a few days ago. spare me the innocent routine of people in here. first i never said u or anyone in particular wants dhb to fail so they can be right. all u have to do is read the comments and see who and how many feel that way. u still have dummies in here sayin to cut him after the 1rst game and even blamed him for the underthrow by jc. a lot of people in here just follow the leader. u get some semi pro to say somethin and they all jump on it. now theyve turned on chaz without knowing the full extent of his injury. stop actin like its so damn innocent in here cuz its far from it. u have a bunch of ignorant comments on players everyday in here. if it was up to the semi pro’s half of the team would be gone.
August 13th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Moss looked pretty good.
August 13th, 2011 at 10:14 am
lmfao. I love when some of you guys say you watched “film” of the game.
August 13th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Armond, DHB is a FIRST ROUND PICK. He’s either a star, or a failure. That’s the way it works. It’s his fault for being drafted first. You support a first round pick, brace yourself for some serious blow back if he doesn’t look like an all pro right off the bat. People are people.
August 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Watching the game again yesterday (insert low life comment here) Jason Cambpell is a different qb than last year. The guys is so much more confident and poised. DHB Moore and Ford w/ sprinkles of Murphy and Chaz (if he get’s healthy) will be fun to watch all season. We got a tough schedule but they gotta bring their A games to beat us
August 13th, 2011 at 10:39 am
morilla Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Moss looked pretty good.
3rd and longs:
Wimbley Kelly Sey Moss= SACK!
August 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Now people want to knit pick under thrown passes. Relax folks underthrows will happen from time to time. One of the underthrows was caused by pressure up the gut, jc couldn’t step into the throw.
We saw the deep ball last year & it was fine , it will be fine this year too.
I think it’s comical how jc haters tried to label jc captain check down & said he doesn’t look for his wr, especially dhb. Now be does exactly that & it turns into complaints about the long ball. Jc haters are scrambling.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Armond-#160 &161 are so true.
Mistic,the pass to DHB WAS under thrown.Pointing that out to all those who do nothing but criticize DHB is not ‘hating’ on JC.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:18 am
2011
Campbell 3,200 yrds 20 TD
DBH 65 rec 890 yrds 5 TD
August 13th, 2011 at 11:22 am
I Thought DVD was like 5′11 …he looked tall though…. about 6′2 . Think the Raiders ( Willie Brown) can turn him into a very good cornerbacks for us?
August 13th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Armond…..DHB still didnt show ability to track ball in air….yeah JC didnt make a good pass but dammit WRs have to be able to adjust and make a play on the ball…I just dont see that from DHB
August 13th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Inonewordraider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Watching the game again yesterday (insert low life comment here) Jason Cambpell is a different qb than last year. The guys is so much more confident and poised. DHB Moore and Ford w/ sprinkles of Murphy and Chaz (if he get’s healthy) will be fun to watch all season. We got a tough schedule but they gotta bring their A games to beat us
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Chaz did himself no favors with alot of people I tell ya that much….better show something in SF next saturday
August 13th, 2011 at 11:36 am
-Cooper Carlisle, as he was last year, is our best O-lineman. Pancake block on the screen, and watched 10 Soup dropbacks, and Carlisle’s man never touched him. Pulled nicely on the Bush 3rd down run to get us out of the shadow of our goal-posts. Next time someone starts ragging on Carlisle, I want SPECIFIC PLAYS where one feels he didn’t do his job. Because I watch and re-watch, and his man is usually not involved in the play.
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It just will not work dawg for the the full load of this season. I’m tellin you ya u can see it with our two guards and center….they gonna have hell with DTs…..but we look better pass blocking wise
August 13th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Inonewordraider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 10:39 am
morilla Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Moss looked pretty good.
3rd and longs:
Wimbley Kelly Sey Moss= SACK!
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Yeah thats possible but I believe we will be switching it up alot…Houston and Bryant figure to get in on that as well as Scott or his replacement
August 13th, 2011 at 11:41 am
TheGeneral Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 5:35 am
TATUPU OR MORRISON i will be cool with
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Especially Tatupu
August 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Alright,the long pass to DHB just happened.He was way(by pro standards) behind the CB.I read on here where some were blaming him for not coming back and making the catch.Do those people know anything about football?He did a good job just knocking the ball down.
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Sorry Lefty but we gonna be hard on the dude until we see him be a very good WR……..that CB almost made the INT…..it was first preseason game so we shall see….next week i expect DHB to get a long pass or a TD and he can ease some of the semi blogger heat lol
August 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
DHB needs a preseason TD.
We need him to be expecting to get in the end zone damn near every week (at least have the mentality).
2 TD’s (garbage-time TD’s really) in 2 years just won’t cut it.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
And Hue kicking off in both halves, due to not having his team captains prepared to say the right thing?
I would say it was kind of funny and chalk it up to inexperience, only Hiram got hurt on that ensuing defensive drive that never should have happened.
I could just imagine the cat-calls and jokes of intelligence levels if Tom Cable made the same gaffe.
Come on Hue, get it together!!!
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How anyone could blame this on the HC is beyond me. Cable or Hue for that matter.
A lot of the same captains from last year, right?
We aren’t talking about some rookies here.
Probably just Wimbley and Seymour wanting to get on the field first, lol.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
DHB needs a preseason TD.
We need him to be expecting to get in the end zone damn near every week (at least have the mentality).
2 TD’s (garbage-time TD’s really) in 2 years just won’t cut it.
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Yep thats what I’m saying Vegas…..man we have some disagreements about the oline but man Barnes has gotta go…..thursday was nothing short of awful
August 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
And Hue kicking off in both halves, due to not having his team captains prepared to say the right thing?
I would say it was kind of funny and chalk it up to inexperience, only Hiram got hurt on that ensuing defensive drive that never should have happened.
I could just imagine the cat-calls and jokes of intelligence levels if Tom Cable made the same gaffe.
Come on Hue, get it together!!!
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How anyone could blame this on the HC is beyond me. Cable or Hue for that matter.
A lot of the same captains from last year, right?
We aren’t talking about some rookies here.
Probably just Wimbley and Seymour wanting to get on the field first, lol.
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First preseason game after long lockout with over a week of practice lol…I crack a hard whip on things but then my sober mind tells me its early
August 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I’m tellin you ya u can see it with our two guards and center….they gonna have hell with DTs…..
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I’ve been saying it for awhile now, but the elite DT’s aren’t being blocked, by anyone.
Doesn’t matter if it is Cooper Carlisle, Logan Mankins or Roy Schuening. You aren’t blocking Suh, Wilfork and the other elite DT’s.
Best you can do is get in the way, and try to not get called for a penalty.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Hue or Saunders made a bad play call by running a freakin reverse in the middle of the field, especially with Chaz carrying the ball.
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I don’t have a problem with a reverse, but Chaz wouldn’t be my first choice to run it. DHB should have been the one.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am
The Niners were pitiful last night…although next week is game 2 of preseason I wanna see the Raiders put the blues to them fools in the first half. We had more talent last year and fizzled but this year we got new schemes and new attitudes so I hope these guys focus this week and have a good showing…..this latin bz want me to roll to the game but after last year….naw…..I got a few things to lose by going to jail lol
August 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am
On the Fitz completion, DVD is staring into the backfield the whole play, has a perfect beat on the ball……and doesn’t even go up for it. A young DB should struggle at a lot of things, but competing for a jump ball should not be one of them. It was like he thought he was going to get an NFL int, by just letting the ball fall into his lap. Not natural-looking at all, IMO.
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Disagree.
First, I’d ask you about the very next attempt to Fitz and how DVD shut him out of the route.
But back to the completion, Just think it’s a matter of first play jitters, and not realizing he needs another 10 lbs on that frame. There was a little contact intiated by Fitz on that play that kinda threw dude off. I think it was simply one of those “I’m better than you rook” type plays.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am
…..man we have some disagreements about the oline but man Barnes has gotta go…..
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Said all last year and this offseason, RT is the weak link of the O-line, and maybe the weakest link on the whole team.
Penalties and poor pass-protection, no matter who we seem to try to trot out there.
Bob Wylie better clean this up!!!
August 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Shot 81 this morning, by the way.
Did anyone else get out?
August 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I’m tellin you ya u can see it with our two guards and center….they gonna have hell with DTs…..
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I’ve been saying it for awhile now, but the elite DT’s aren’t being blocked, by anyone.
Doesn’t matter if it is Cooper Carlisle, Logan Mankins or Roy Schuening. You aren’t blocking Suh, Wilfork and the other elite DT’s.
Best you can do is get in the way, and try to not get called for a penalty.
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Pisan……check it tho….at some point you gonna have to block those guys…..eventually you gotta toe to toe blow for blow with an elite DT or two if we wanna get to where we wanna go
August 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
The CB didn’t make the int because DHB broke up the pass.If it was intercepted I’m positive you guys would be blaming the WR who had at least 3 yds separation for it and not the QB for under throwing him.You will always be hard on him.You’ll never see anything positive from him because you don’t want to just like a lot of guys on here.It seems once you guys form an opinion on someone nothing will change it-whether it is warranted or not.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Double bogeyed 1 and 18, lol!
August 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Shot 81 this morning, by the way.
Did anyone else get out?
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After what tiger did the last two days…I dont wanna hear about golf lol
August 13th, 2011 at 11:53 am
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Double bogeyed 1 and 18, lol!
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Greg Norman ass negga lol
August 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
-Cooper Carlisle, as he was last year, is our best O-lineman.
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Hmmmm …
Wonder why Hue didn’t mention Carlisle?
August 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
The CB didn’t make the int because DHB broke up the pass.If it was intercepted I’m positive you guys would be blaming the WR who had at least 3 yds separation for it and not the QB for under throwing him.You will always be hard on him.You’ll never see anything positive from him because you don’t want to just like a lot of guys on here.It seems once you guys form an opinion on someone nothing will change it-whether it is warranted or not.
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Lefty I been saying it wasnt a good pass….hell I was five rows away from the play…JC needed to make a better throw no doubt….but we been spoiled with Ford he might make that play
August 13th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Greg Norman ass negga lol
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LOL
August 13th, 2011 at 11:55 am
First, I’d ask you about the very next attempt to Fitz and how DVD shut him out of the route.
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Going 1-2 for 45 yards is not a win for a DB.
I will give it time with him, just always look for first impressions.
It’s not the fact that Fitz beat him for 45 yards, just that DVD KNEW IT WAS COMING FROM THE JUMP, and couldn’t muster up much of an effort with the ball at the point of contact.
Can be taught over time, but we don’t need him “learning” this with on Brandon Lloyd in a clutch moment in a few weeks
August 13th, 2011 at 11:55 am
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
-Cooper Carlisle, as he was last year, is our best O-lineman.
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Hmmmm …
Wonder why Hue didn’t mention Carlisle?
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Cant say who our best olineman is as of now……we for sure gotta get Loper and Barnes out of there…..the staff likes Coop for some reason I dont!……but I like Veldheer and Barksdale at the edges….Satele prolly gonna start the season at Center
August 13th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:55 am
First, I’d ask you about the very next attempt to Fitz and how DVD shut him out of the route.
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Going 1-2 for 45 yards is not a win for a DB.
I will give it time with him, just always look for first impressions.
It’s not the fact that Fitz beat him for 45 yards, just that DVD KNEW IT WAS COMING FROM THE JUMP, and couldn’t muster up much of an effort with the ball at the point of contact.
Can be taught over time, but we don’t need him “learning” this with on Brandon Lloyd in a clutch moment in a few weeks
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Possibly but remember woodswon got that lesson from rison in 98 and it made him better…..that happens bruh
August 13th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Tiger needs to swallow his pride and go back to Butch Harmon. Take 6 months off, and just go at it with Harmon.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:56 am
The obvious positive is the front seven. The Raiders will live and die on the play of this unit, solid as ever. If they can improve on stopping the run, they would be stellar. Let’s hope that there are no injuries.
The most obvious negatives are the youngsters dbs, and playing for field goals. That last thing needs to stop, either change the playbook, which is not going to happen, or get ready for Janiko to break some records along with some hearts. Play for TDs HueJack!
Dvd and McFadden are too many miles behind to be NFL caliber dbs, particularly in the man-scheme the Raiders play. I’m afraid that this will be the Raiders’ Achilles Heel, and will waste the play up front. Lets’ hope that Routt and Johnson up their game in the wake of Nnamdi’s departure. Obviously, a strong defensive front will help the young dbs get better.
August 13th, 2011 at 11:59 am
It’s not the fact that Fitz beat him for 45 yards, just that DVD KNEW IT WAS COMING FROM THE JUMP, and couldn’t muster up much of an effort with the ball at the point of contact.
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Ima give the kid a break since it was pretty much his first time on an NFL field, and it was a jump ball against Fitz. Fitz makes seasoned DBs look silly on those same type of jump balls.
I’d be more concerned if he as McFadden like and just no in the play at all. Which is why I refernce the very next play where he adjusted at got in front of Fitz so there could be no jump ball.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
J Hill-shot an 81 yesterday my damn self.Doubled 10 & 11.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I disagree that RT is an issue.
I’ve thought all along that Barksdale should be able to hold that spot down. Former LT for LSU?
Heyer playing well is a good thing for our depth at OT.
Barnes’ “play” wasn’t bad at all. Penalties were super ridiculous, but his actual blocking wasn’t bad. I have no problem with him as a backup.
Veldheer-Wiz-Satele-Carlisle-Barksdale is fine by me.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
J Hill,I like that line also.The two rookies with vets next to them.As far as DVD goes,the guy will be a player.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
One play in particular from J. Moss really stuck out i think. On the play he got sucked into the O line and spun, bounced back out to catch up with the ball carrier and wrap him up. I don’t know how he was able to catch up to make that tackle in the open field. He’s got quite a reach on him.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
T.O. is coming off knee surgery. Too much risk considering he would still expect to get paid well.
And the one thing that would suck about cutting Chaz is that it only frees up $555,000 in cap space. At least they aren’t paying him much to be injured all the time. But I’d still save myself the chump change and drop the fool. I’m tired of this crap every year.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Doubled 10 & 11.
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That’s the game for you.
Still can’t beat a good walk on the golf course though.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
I can see DVD starting next year, no problem.
Or at least the 3rd corner if CJ37 has anything to say about it. I think CJ is legit too.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
one thing about CJ ,he is our one CB who will take chances and make plays for the ball.If he stays healthy this year,he might be up there in pick-sixes.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 11:59 am
It’s not the fact that Fitz beat him for 45 yards, just that DVD KNEW IT WAS COMING FROM THE JUMP, and couldn’t muster up much of an effort with the ball at the point of contact.
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There aren’t five receivers in the NFL that would have caught that ball. DVD had him covered very well, and to make a judgement like that based on his first NFL pass in a game situation is ridiculous. He was one-on-one with Fitzgerald for his second professional opportunity as well and performed just fine.
He got punked pretty good by (I think) Beanie Wells in the run game and probably has a ways to go until he’s a viable NFL starting corner, but let’s not get too critical to soon. He was covering Larry Fitzgerald, for crying out loud.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
J Hill didn’t make that comment,JFB did.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Film room D line Break down
http://www.raidernationstation.com/pre_season_film_room_2011
August 13th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
209. Correct evaluation.
DVD fared well against the best. Great position. Said it the day he left though, we’re going to miss Nnamdi’s flying shoulder run stuffing on the edge. Several games last season and before had outcomes affected by Nnams making those tackles on the edge.
Normal CBs can’t do that.
August 13th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
I saw one end zone view of the DVD fitz catch and it was obvious that Larry worked the rookie. He used just enough shoulder to push DVD off and get the ball
August 13th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
DVD was solid in coverage of Fitz on the big grab, but looked awful on many other plays. He is a horrible tackler in the open field and he is too weak to press. He will take a while to get where needs to be physically. He was a reach where Al took him. Watch each play he was involved in..Not pretty.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
DHB ran two bad routes on his two Targets. That rookie flat out wanted the ball more on the deep pass and beat him to the ball. The other pattern he did not plant hard and make a sharp cut, he rounded the pattern..JV football route but an excellent throw by campbell or it is an in completion.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Watched the replay of AZ …
1st priorty – START HEYER at LG!!!!
Heyer was a beast out there. He was getting tremendous push on Calias Campbell! And his pass blocking was aslo pretty solid.
Start Heyer at LG. Thats the 1st move I want to see Hue make.
Right now I’m looking at Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Carlisle-Barksdale
I’m getting really anxious to see where BCampbell is in his development. We need more competition at RT/RG. I want a moutain of a man over there that can hold that spot for a decade.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
one thing about CJ ,he is our one CB who will take chances and make plays for the ball.If he stays healthy this year,he might be up there in pick-sixes.
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That’s the thing…if front 7 is on point Routt and CJ can snag some things and our safeties can get a few as well…..just something to think about
August 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Watched the replay of AZ …
1st priorty – START HEYER at LG!!!!
Heyer was a beast out there. He was getting tremendous push on Calias Campbell! And his pass blocking was aslo pretty solid.
Start Heyer at LG. Thats the 1st move I want to see Hue make.
Right now I’m looking at Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Carlisle-Barksdale
I’m getting really anxious to see where BCampbell is in his development. We need more competition at RT/RG. I want a moutain of a man over there that can hold that spot for a decade.
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Eventually Carlisle gonna have to sit for Wiz if Satele is the center. Carlisle at 295 lbs not gonna work man IMO
August 13th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
DHB ran two bad routes on his two Targets. That rookie flat out wanted the ball more on the deep pass and beat him to the ball. The other pattern he did not plant hard and make a sharp cut, he rounded the pattern..JV football route but an excellent throw by campbell or it is an in completion.
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Totally what I saw before I started gettin plastered
August 13th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Watched the replay of AZ …
1st priorty – START HEYER at LG!!!!
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Incorrect. Hyer did NOT play well at G. LG is going to be Wizzer’s spot most likely.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Film room D line Break down
http://www.raidernationstation.com/pre_season_film_room_2011
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Yep good stuff….we seem very mean and evil up front
August 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Watched the replay of AZ …
1st priorty – START HEYER at LG!!!!
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Incorrect. Hyer did NOT play well at G. LG is going to be Wizzer’s spot most likely.
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That’s quite possible but he played RG in college. I just know I cant take Loper as my LG…..hell no
August 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Carlisle played a solid game, perhaps the best of any OL. He deserves to start right now. Barnes is bungling his way to waivers. Carlisle looked the part of a starter.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Isn’t amazing how stiff Al used to get for Trevor Scott. It is amazing that T Scott was a starter over MS. If T Scott were not still hurt then MS would still be 2nd team. I am Mike Mitchell will get jammed into the starting lineup as soon as he is healthy, because Al has major wood for him too.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
I think the key Al Scholarship guys are: Sam Williams, DHB, Mitchell, Trevor Scott, and soon we can add Van Dyke.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Carlisle played a solid game, perhaps the best of any OL. He deserves to start right now. Barnes is bungling his way to waivers. Carlisle looked the part of a starter.
89052RAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Isn’t amazing how stiff Al used to get for Trevor Scott. It is amazing that T Scott was a starter over MS. If T Scott were not still hurt then MS would still be 2nd team. I am Mike Mitchell will get jammed into the starting lineup as soon as he is healthy, because Al has major wood for him too.
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Man you know Carlisle cant do this for the season as a power RG. He goes up against the the more talented DT almost every play.
T Scott is a 6th round player and he is not bad but Matt is better. Mitchell not gonna start but will see as many snaps as last year
August 13th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
I think the key Al Scholarship guys are: Sam Williams, DHB, Mitchell, Trevor Scott, and soon we can add Van Dyke.
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Mitchell and Scott have at least made some plays in their time
August 13th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
but an excellent throw by campbell or it is an in completion.
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Glo making throws that end up making his WRs look better?
Manningesque????
How about that RM99?
August 13th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
but an excellent throw by campbell or it is an in completion.
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Glo making throws that end up making his WRs look better?
Manningesque????
How about that RM99?
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Whoa there patna
August 13th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
JC still has to show us next week and NO to feel fully confident heading into Denver
August 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Mitchell not gonna start but will see as many snaps as last year
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I can’t see us going with 4 Safeties on the field this year.
I think we are going to see a lot of what we saw with the starters. Brown at FS, Branch at SS, and Huff as a rover.
If we bring Mitchell in a so called nickel LB, then I think we will be vulnerable to the run like we were in the Colts game.
I hope we don’t see that.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Eventually Carlisle gonna have to sit for Wiz if Satele is the center. Carlisle at 295 lbs not gonna work man IMO
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I’m fine with that. Either way. But get Heyer in there over Loper for sure!
August 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Mitchell not gonna start but will see as many snaps as last year
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I can’t see us going with 4 Safeties on the field this year.
I think we are going to see a lot of what we saw with the starters. Brown at FS, Branch at SS, and Huff as a rover.
If we bring Mitchell in a so called nickel LB, then I think we will be vulnerable to the run like we were in the Colts game.
I hope we don’t see that.
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Stevie Brown is beneath Mitchell in this convo….we will see MM34 and TB together and at times Huff with those two on the field
August 13th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Eventually Carlisle gonna have to sit for Wiz if Satele is the center. Carlisle at 295 lbs not gonna work man IMO
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I’m fine with that. Either way. But get Heyer in there over Loper for sure!
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Loper is a backup….Bruce Campbell fkin off some of their stuff right now. He was suppose to be the RG
August 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Al was so impressed with Trevor Scott at LE after just a few preseason games that he traded for Richard Seymour.
Will see if Scott can get back on the field in front of Moss.
I actually thought Scott was pretty decent at WLB. Then all of a sudden he gets beat out by Groves, who most people think sucks, lol.
Scott deserves a roster spot though.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
I just honestly not worried about our secondary as everyone else is…..Our front 7 is very damn tough along with the possibility of having a playmaker in Lofa at WLB. Offenses bout to have nightmares….we gonna be still blitzin maybe not alot but it will be visible
August 13th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Watched the replay of AZ …
1st priorty – START HEYER at LG!!!!
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Incorrect. Hyer did NOT play well at G. LG is going to be Wizzer’s spot most likely.
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Whoahoho! Check the game bud! Heyer came in a LG during the 2nd offensive series then he switched to LT when Veldheer sat after the 2nd offensive series.
He did play LG bud and was freakin’ awesome!
August 13th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Al was so impressed with Trevor Scott at LE after just a few preseason games that he traded for Richard Seymour.
Will see if Scott can get back on the field in front of Moss.
I actually thought Scott was pretty decent at WLB. Then all of a sudden he gets beat out by Groves, who most people think sucks, lol.
Scott deserves a roster spot though.
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Someone’s feelings bout to be squashed…groves or scott…that young Hill dude looked decent
August 13th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Heyer looked good at Lg…Wiz played RG in college he is a natural at that position.
VELD HEYER SATELE WIZ BARKS
Thats your starting Oline…
Only missing component is where is BC going to play…
August 13th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I wonder if they’d consider moving Huff over to CB more.
The reason I consider this is that we have 4 viable safeties on our team. We have 2 CBs that can play for sure and one more that has shown some poise (Sterling Moore).
We’re not having a good track record with people that have 3 letter initials (DHB, JLH)…let’s hope that DVD turns out better. But, if CJ or Routt got hurt that would be VERY VERY VERY VERY scarey.
I would crap myself if Ware of McFadden got put into the line up on game day. We can’t wait 3 or 4 years for these younger CBs to develop. We’ve gotta draft more “ready to play” players in that area if we’re gonna let Nnamdi walk. Hope one of them picks it up quick
August 13th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Scott was good at rushing the passer. Wasn’t doing well in coverage or run support (at least per what I saw when he was playing LB)
August 13th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I thought Heyer and Barksdale really stood out.
JC hit that beautiful throw to Moore, but missed the TD throw to DHB.
That, in a nutshell, is JC’s career. Ok, but teasing you if you think he’ll be good enough to beat top teams.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I’m just kind of iffy on starting too many rooks on the right side. I know they want to get Wiz out there but 2 rooks is kind of dicey.
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Wiz-Barnes
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Carlisle-Barkdale
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Campbell-Barkdale
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Wiz-Campbell
I don’t know …there are many optios. What I think I know at this point is the left side has been determined Veldeer/Heyer. The C, RG, and RT are still being fought.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Thec…BC can play as needed…that’s your starting OL.
And by the way, DVD actually had good coverage against Fitz when Fitz made the play. Just what the doctor ordered. Put our new DB under fire in preseason games, let them get burned, if they learn from the experience and let them continue to learn from our HOF coach Rod Woodson…they’re in excellent hands there and they’ll get much much better.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Fuk Barnes, cut is ass today…
August 13th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Stevie Brown is beneath Mitchell in this convo….we will see MM34 and TB together
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So you’re saying Branch at FS, MM34 at SS, and Huff at Rover?
Brown has been getting HEAVY run at FS since the Jags game last year. I just don’t see that changing.
If MM34 could play some FS, then maybe I could see it.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Raiderz Mav…They may be thinking in those terms, but maybe not yet. I think they believe our new DB can learn up every week and they’ll make the decision when were ready to face Denver. Also, they don’t want to let our opponent think we’re running scared with our new DB’s.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Scott was on roller skates against the Texans. It was embarrassing. He can not hold the edge in the run game. Al does does not even need viagra to get stiff over this guy. He is rock hard on Mitchell too. A kid you draft with a high 2nd should be a starter. He lacks NFL skills at safety, but Al wants be right on this whiff too. Projects like Van Dyke, Mitchell, Mario Henderson, DHB should not be taken so high, because the team needs legitimate NFL starters out of such picks. These type of selections keep setting the Raiders back.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
If the rooks can hold up then why not? Barks and wiz both went to NFL minor league schools, youngsters are coing ou mor e”pro readt” than normal. If they beat out the ves in a true competition, and they give us the best chance to win, we ride with the youngsters. I trust Coach Jackson, and his personel to make good decisions.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Wiz has to work on the snap and keeping his feet under him/balance. He is a solid run blocker for sure and fiesty! He seems to get an extra push or something in their just like his uncle.
This kid will be the center here for a very long time. But for now, I don’t know if he’s ready to take the helm from Satele. Right now Satele is prob more sound. Wiz has to adjust his body for the center position.
Maybe beginning sometime this year or next season will begin his time.
August 13th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
coing ou mor e”pro readt
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huh?
August 13th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
JCAMPBELL looke very comfortable… he needs to really let it rip, i doubt he can overthrow these guys…
August 13th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
It was great to see us “blitz” Huff on our second defensive play. So unusual of us. Never would have happened under Rob (prevent defense) Ryan. No way, no how.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
I just honestly not worried about our secondary as everyone else is
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Agreed.
Where talking about the backup corner that is going win the dime job.
Huff at rover basically adds another CB in the conversation. DVD, or anyone of these young CBs won’t be on the field all that much anyway.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I will let the media worry about the secondary…I trust coach Jackson, and his staff….
August 13th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I told you guys landing Al Saunders was HUGE!!! That move alone made this team that much more scary.
You see all those double TE sets we saw out there? It was a thing of beauty. All the motions and scheming; and that sht was BASIC Thursday. BASIC!
August 13th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Just like any team in the league, if a starting CB goes down, the secondary is going to take a huge hit.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
I would crap myself if Ware of McFadden got put into the line up on game day.
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You and me both.
DVD is already ahead of those guys based on what I saw.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
256.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I told you guys landing Al Saunders was HUGE!!! That move alone made this team that much more scary.
You see all those double TE sets we saw out there? It was a thing of beauty. All the motions and scheming; and that sht was BASIC Thursday. BASIC!
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Yep…The best part is he did not have all the moving parts…His best playmakers were sitting idle…
JCAMPBELL cuts lose this will be a top 5 O…
August 13th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I really like what i saw in JCAMPBELL…On the 26 yard pass to DMOORE he could have hit the tight end for a decent gain as he was open however he went downfield….nice…very nice….
August 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
JCAMPBELL looke very comfortable… he needs to really let it rip, i doubt he can overthrow these guys…
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JC proved that he doesn’t have a big arm last season. I forget which game it was but Raiders 1st and 10 from their own 2 yard line….hand off to Bush….flee flicker….pass from JC to wide open Murphy. Ball fell about 10 yards short. Should have been a 98 yd TD.
Dont get me wrong though..I’m hoping JC has a great year.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Hello Terrapin & 07
I really liked our offense.
The TE position for the Raiders(should our first peseason game be an indicator) will be even better, stronger, and deeper than the last few years.
Mr. Boss stood up every DL/LB/DB he blocked, Mr. Ausberry’s TD catch was Biletnekoffesque.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Barksdale or Heyer at RT would work if Barnes doesn’t earn it and get his head out of his azz. i can also see Heyer play LG if need be.
Wiz just needs to stay on his feet and maintain balance and leverage and he will be fine.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Running a reverse in the middle of the field with Chaz was just a flat out bad play call.
Hope Huey and Saunders learn from that mistake!
August 13th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
I wasn’t ripping DVD like he was no good or had no chance at being good.
It was the first game, our first glimpse at the players, and our chance to draw first impressions.
My impression of DVD? Needs to work on his ball skills.
Because if he is on the field week 1, and Orton is under center, he is the type of saavy vet to just draw up plays specifically on DVD and prove that he is ready to make plays.
I need to see more from him, to feel confident in that type of scenario, at this stage.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The DHB “underthrow” wasn’t that bad either. Contrary to the way people in here wanted to describe it, DHB had a stride on the guy underneath, but had a man over the top. If Soup throws it further down the field, he either throws it to the Safety, or leads DHB into a big-hit. It was the perfect ball placement, he just needed some more mustard on it.
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Glad you saw it that way too.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Mr. McFadden got alot of reps hich is a good thing if he grows from it.
Last season [preseason] he was lightning in a bottle, he played excellent, injured his hammy then regressed, hopefully he gets his game back.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Guys we have Al Saunders helping with these gameplans. There was no DMAC,Ford,and Murphy. I think we are quite fine in terms of moving the ball. now we gotta get TDs…not fgs.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I’m just kind of iffy on starting too many rooks on the right side. I know they want to get Wiz out there but 2 rooks is kind of dicey.
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Wiz-Barnes
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Carlisle-Barkdale
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Campbell-Barkdale
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Wiz-Campbell
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At this point, B. Campbell hasn’t even PRACTICED yet, much less played in a game. I think we can rule him out as a starter, at least in the early part of the year.
My guess:
Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Wiz-Barksdale
or
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Carlisle-Barksdale
or
Veldheer-Loper-Satele-Wiz-Barksdale
If Barksdale doesn’t drop off and Barnes doesn’t step it up, Bazooka Joe should be starting Week 1.
This basically leaves us with a three-man race between Loper, Satele and Heyer to determin which two start alongside Wiz on the interior.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
JCAMPBELL looke very comfortable… he needs to really let it rip, i doubt he can overthrow these guys…
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JC proved that he doesn’t have a big arm last season. I forget which game it was but Raiders 1st and 10 from their own 2 yard line….hand off to Bush….flee flicker….pass from JC to wide open Murphy. Ball fell about 10 yards short. Should have been a 98 yd TD.
Dont get me wrong though..I’m hoping JC has a great year.
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I was there…it was the niner game. Yeah man that was mind blowing. He hangs with Bret Favre and stuff….you think he’sd try to take just a tad bit of that let it go attitude…but well we shall see. He looked like a guy with full confidence the team is his for 2011.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
how is a ball that “needs more mustard” and falls short of its target an example of “perfect ball placement
Kinda funny when we are on here telling JC in his 7th year the same thing Tom Cable was yelling at him: “cut it loose!”
August 13th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Big Fan Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The DHB “underthrow” wasn’t that bad either. Contrary to the way people in here wanted to describe it, DHB had a stride on the guy underneath, but had a man over the top. If Soup throws it further down the field, he either throws it to the Safety, or leads DHB into a big-hit. It was the perfect ball placement, he just needed some more mustard on it.
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Glad you saw it that way too.
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DHB doesnt know how to track a ball. I was standing right there and it was clear as day he doesnt understand how to do it. Some guys got it some dont.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Alex7 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
how is a ball that “needs more mustard” and falls short of its target an example of “perfect ball placement
Kinda funny when we are on here telling JC in his 7th year the same thing Tom Cable was yelling at him: “cut it loose!”
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Yeah true thats his biggest knock on my guy. Something is gonna have to be brought out of him now or never. AFC West is wide open because the chiefs are god terrible its hilarious and we know Denver aint schit. SD presents a challenge but I felt we have been better than them the last 3 years.
Its up to JC to man up and lead this entire team
August 13th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
We can’t afford to babysit Mr. Schilens or any other player, this is professional football.
they need to step up, toughen up or get cut.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I know some of yall dont believe in him, but I know JC is a good QB in the NFL. I feel he is the perfect reclamation project. This city and this place wants to embrace him. This is his biggest chance of his career.
The RAIDERS will make your ass famous. That’s a fact. I do not need to go over the names. YOU WIN when you win with Al Davis! If you are dope here everyone will want something to do with ya. it says something about the type of person you are. I like dude and his doesnt throw teammates under the bus. You guys talk so much about character and he has the biggest of all with osme talent to match. And yall love Gannon but he didnt fully get it together until very late.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
We can’t afford to babysit Mr. Schilens or any other player, this is professional football.
they need to step up, toughen up or get cut.
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We will be fine with him or not. We are stocked with playmakers baby!
August 13th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Well I’ll just drop in to say howdy to ya’ll. My two cents tells me the entire defense and especially the secondary are gonna have to step it up, cause I aint bankin on the CBs’. Somethin tells me we’re gonna picked on mighty heavily at the corners. Maybe even assaulted, because gentlemen, that is our weakest link. Other teams will exploit that to no end, so Mr B is gonna have to deal with that.
I do think the offense is gonna be just fine. I can tell by just lookin in the eyes of Mr. Campbell.
If we are in a tight game with a lead and the opposition has one final drive and a long way to go, and Al Davis summons that prevent nothing garbage of a defense that any NFL team can pick apart, I’ll soil my drawers and send them to Alemeda and have them do the cleaning for me because I wont be able to hold it back.
I like Mr Ford and Mr Miller, but we need DHB to pull his own. That Moore kid comin up gonna be special. Back to DHB, he needs to make JC a better quarterback, not the other way around. So when a pass comes his way, he’s gonna have to catch the ball.
I appreciate what Al Davis has done so far, now we just need to get those wins for him.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
266.big fan Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The DHB “underthrow” wasn’t that bad either. Contrary to the way people in here wanted to describe it, DHB had a stride on the guy underneath, but had a man over the top. If Soup throws it further down the field, he either throws it to the Safety, or leads DHB into a big-hit. It was the perfect ball placement, he just needed some more mustard on it.
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Glad you saw it that way too.
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Just cued up that play …
#49 was taking an angle to try and stop DHB from scoring. He was in no position to make a play on that ball had Glo put it out there another 5 yds.
The jump ball happened the 33 yd line and you can clearly see 49s angle was headed toward the 25 yd line.
Pass underthrown, no 2 ways about it.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
I truly believe Veldheer and Barksdale would be able to hold their own against DE combos as well as open some lanes in the run game.
We now gotta figure out who the interior guys are. I just wanna be solid there not pro bowl just solid.
We have a deep roster at the skills positions and as said we shall be using double TEs and other formations. I can just see it at th game….we really may be in for a treat this season.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Gannon had started 58 games before he came here. Brought with him leadership and a winning record, too.
JC started 52 games before he came here. Brought a losing record, slow delivery, and a knack for locking on to targets and not performing vs top competition.
Both continued to do what they were known for when they arrived.
But yeah, if not this year, never for JC.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Hog Wild….nice to meet ya but dont trip about the corners so much this early. We still installing other things and plays. As long as I get pressure I can deal with my corners sometimes gettin hit.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
266.big fan Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The DHB “underthrow” wasn’t that bad either. Contrary to the way people in here wanted to describe it, DHB had a stride on the guy underneath, but had a man over the top. If Soup throws it further down the field, he either throws it to the Safety, or leads DHB into a big-hit. It was the perfect ball placement, he just needed some more mustard on it.
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Glad you saw it that way too.
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Just cued up that play …
#49 was taking an angle to try and stop DHB from scoring. He was in no position to make a play on that ball had Glo put it out there another 5 yds.
The jump ball happened the 33 yd line and you can clearly see 49s angle was headed toward the 25 yd line.
Pass underthrown, no 2 ways about it.
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Well I’m glad DHB didn’t have to catch it and take the hit, because I am on record saying DHB is scared of taking a bone jarring hit. He needs to seperate and JC needs to hit him in stride. Only way that will work. In traffic, no way, DHB won’t catch.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Terrapin & Duckie
We know Mr. Vehldeer is a lock at LT; I agree that it looks like Mr. Barksdale will win the RT position.
I think whoever wins the center psoition between Mr. Satele & Mr. Wisniewski determines the guard positions.
if it’s Wiz II at C then it will be Mr. Schuening and Mr. Hoyer at guard; Samson will still make the 53-man roster way too valuable as a backup.
if it’s Satele at center (he has the experience and it gives the line some continuity from last season), then I think it will be Heyer at RG and Wiz II at LG, this will give Barksdale an experienced player alongside him and puts Stephen between an LT and C with some experience as well, not to mention it does put him in his Raider legend uncle’s position.
Mr. Schuening looked good in practice as did Mr. Loper & Mr. Carlisle, Mr. Barnes blocked well, but those false starts has the coaches looking at him.
at least one of teh veteran lineman, loper, barnes, carlisle gets traded or cut.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
“I was standing right there”.So,B,you were standing on the Cardinals sideline near mid field.The play happened on the 33 yd line.I thought you sat in the end zone?
August 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I’m not going to worry about JC until he starts messing up bad. He has not done anything for us to worry about him just yet.
I’m more worried about the 1st and 2nd team DB’s and how the O-Line is going to shake out. I also want to all the Raiders WR’s to step it the hell up!
August 13th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Alex7 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Gannon had started 58 games before he came here. Brought with him leadership and a winning record, too.
JC started 52 games before he came here. Brought a losing record, slow delivery, and a knack for locking on to targets and not performing vs top competition.
Both continued to do what they were known for when they arrived.
But yeah, if not this year, never for JC.
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While that may be true….Gannon had no respect. People laughed at the Raiders still when we signed Gannon. He had two decent years but never had respect. His first year here he went 8-8 and the offense looked competent and bad a few times like it did with JC…..then the second year Gannon really handled biz. JC no matter what went 7-5 and never lost back to back games. Gannon did. Just saying
Yeah its now or never for JC. He has explosive players around him. Must have top ten defense with more TD conversions.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Raiders 1st and 10 from their own 2 yard line….hand off to Bush….flee flicker….pass from JC to wide open Murphy. Ball fell about 10 yards short. Should have been a 98 yd TD.
Dont get me wrong though..I’m hoping JC has a great year.
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I was there…it was the niner game. Yeah man that was mind blowing.
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Amazing to me how many times thisplay gets brought up, but you guys fail to mention him coming right back on that same pass and dropping a dime on Ford who flat out dropped it.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Just cued up that play …
#49 was taking an angle to try and stop DHB from scoring. He was in no position to make a play on that ball had Glo put it out there another 5 yds.
The jump ball happened the 33 yd line and you can clearly see 49s angle was headed toward the 25 yd line.
Pass underthrown, no 2 ways about it.
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Not sayin he was going to make a play on the ball, but had DHB caught it, coulda taken a hit. I’ll say it again, DHB ain’t going to take hard hits and get up and do it again. And if DHB does get leveled, he may not improve at all.
So, with his speed he needs to flat out seperate. And with JCs’ arm strength, he needs to get him the ball. It is that simple.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
“I was standing right there”.So,B,you were standing on the Cardinals sideline near mid field.The play happened on the 33 yd line.I thought you sat in the end zone?
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LOL lefty you being extra technical on my ass bruh…I’m sitting right there with DHB lined up directly towards me….no one is blocking my view at all. I saw what I saw so did everyone else in that crowd. We know the pass wasnt great but DHB still doesnt know how to track a ball. some got it some dont….but I hope he doesnt drop passes and he is adequate. I dont expect greatness
August 13th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Raiders 1st and 10 from their own 2 yard line….hand off to Bush….flee flicker….pass from JC to wide open Murphy. Ball fell about 10 yards short. Should have been a 98 yd TD.
Dont get me wrong though..I’m hoping JC has a great year.
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I was there…it was the niner game. Yeah man that was mind blowing.
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Amazing to me how many times thisplay gets brought up, but you guys fail to mention him coming right back on that same pass and dropping a dime on Ford who flat out dropped it.
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We hear ya but I think everyone is talking consistency with those dime droppers. Anytime someone is open he has to make the defense pay.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Yeah its now or never for JC. He has explosive players around him. Must have top ten defense with more TD conversions.
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Really meant offense…I dont think the defense is top 10 material….I think a 13th or 14th ranked defense would be legit. I just want turnovers
August 13th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
JCAMPBELL will be an MVP candidate…
August 13th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Jhill the fact of the matter is…if JC hits that pass to Murphy the Raiders win that game because it would have destroyed the 49ers and we would have routed them. He cant miss those anymore
August 13th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Raider Offense <—–Top 5 in the NFL
August 13th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
JCAMPBELL will be an MVP candidate…
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I think Most Improved would be logical but not MVP. He has to toss 30 TDs for that to happen. I dont see that. I see a ceiling of 20-25 TD max.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
BTW IR fools gold…Time to turn the corner on him…
August 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
WRs:
I think Mr. Hagan makes the 53-man roster, that was nice catch he made deep over the middle; if he continues that in camp and more preseason games Raiders will keep him, Denarius showing off his skills and all the quarterbacks were focused on him.
Mr. Nick Miller was solid, once again making it difficult for the coaches to cut him.
Mr. Ford proved his value on the field it will carry over this year, I like how he supported his teammates during his sideline interview.
Mr. Heyward-Bey caught the sure-thing catch. He will make the roster.
as for Mr. Murphy and Mr. Schilens they need to do what it takes to rehab and get healthy or at least one if not both will be cut or traded.
Locks at WR:
Ford, DHB, Moore
50/50 for Miller, Hagan, Chaz, Murphy, Bodiford only 3-4 make the cut Hagan & Miller in the lead.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Raider Offense <—–Top 5 in the NFL
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So what you are saying is I should go to Vegas and drop a check on Raiders winning the AFC West,AFC Championship and Super Bowl before the odds drop?
August 13th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
BTW IR fools gold…Time to turn the corner on him…
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Close to agreeing…SF he gotta show me something now
August 13th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
BigFan,
It just doesn’t look like 49 is in a position to make a play on DHB at all if the pass is on point. 49 is in a full sprint just trying to get into position to cut him off at the 25 yd line. The play was happening at the 33.
I don’t want to sound too critical of the play. It’s early, and they have time to work on it.
No biggie.
August 13th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
WRs:
I think Mr. Hagan makes the 53-man roster, that was nice catch he made deep over the middle; if he continues that in camp and more preseason games Raiders will keep him, Denarius showing off his skills and all the quarterbacks were focused on him.
Mr. Nick Miller was solid, once again making it difficult for the coaches to cut him.
Mr. Ford proved his value on the field it will carry over this year, I like how he supported his teammates during his sideline interview.
Mr. Heyward-Bey caught the sure-thing catch. He will make the roster.
as for Mr. Murphy and Mr. Schilens they need to do what it takes to rehab and get healthy or at least one if not both will be cut or traded.
Locks at WR:
Ford, DHB, Moore
50/50 for Miller, Hagan, Chaz, Murphy, Bodiford only 3-4 make the cut Hagan & Miller in the lead.
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Brother….no way. There ae four locks at WR….you excluded Murphy, no way will he not be on this team
August 13th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Our top 5 O will put JCAMP in the running…
30 TD catches…
JFORD 7
Reece 2
DMAC 3
LMURPHY 4
DHB 3
BOSS 3
AUS 3
TJ 1
DMOORE 4
August 13th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
I hear yall and all but DHB has no ball skills. You dont get what I’m gettin at Jhill. Ford is a short cat and would have fought for that ball…even Murphy does at times. When have you seen DHB do that?
August 13th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Our top 5 O will put JCAMP in the running…
30 TD catches…
JFORD 7
Reece 2
DMAC 3
LMURPHY 4
DHB 3
BOSS 3
AUS 3
TJ 1
DMOORE 4
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LOL wow you asking alot…..what about Bush?
August 13th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
So what you are saying is I should go to Vegas and drop a check on Raiders winning the AFC West,AFC Championship and Super Bowl before the odds drop?
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I saw 13-3…Not sure how it gets done, hats what i saw…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Thec I got Murphy for 6 TDs and Ford with 5 Tds….doubt Boss only gets 3.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
LOL wow you asking alot…..what about Bush?
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Thats the problem mayne we have too many weopons…Take 1 from Aus, and 1 from Murphy…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Jhill the fact of the matter is…if JC hits that pass to Murphy the Raiders win that game
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Iguess you can say the same thing about Ford catching the deep pass a few plays later.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Brother….no way. There ae four locks at WR….you excluded Murphy, no way will he not be on this team
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Agreee…Howeve I would keep Hagans, and NMILLEr over fools gold…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
306.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Thec I got Murphy for 6 TDs and Ford with 5 Tds….doubt Boss only gets 3.
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BOSS is going to split some of those with Ausberry.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
So what you are saying is I should go to Vegas and drop a check on Raiders winning the AFC West,AFC Championship and Super Bowl before the odds drop?
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I saw 13-3…Not sure how it gets done, hats what i saw…
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Wow bruh…you talking big…Raiders aint won 13 games in a regular season since what 76?
August 13th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I hear yall and all but DHB has no ball skills. You dont get what I’m gettin at Jhill. Ford is a short cat and would have fought for that ball…even Murphy does at times. When have you seen DHB do that?
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Thats something you cannot teach…Its instictive, built int onse DNA.. Either you have it or you dont…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
BigFan,
It just doesn’t look like 49 is in a position to make a play on DHB at all if the pass is on point. 49 is in a full sprint just trying to get into position to cut him off at the 25 yd line. The play was happening at the 33.
I don’t want to sound too critical of the play. It’s early, and they have time to work on it.
No biggie.
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cool…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
So what you are saying is I should go to Vegas and drop a check on Raiders winning the AFC West,AFC Championship and Super Bowl before the odds drop?
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don’t forget to parlay the 3 for 100 to get a mill ticket.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Wow bruh…you talking big…Raiders aint won 13 games in a regular season since what 76?
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I remember that season, only loss was to the pats 42-27 something like that…76 Raider, best NFL team of all times….We will see though, thats what I saw
August 13th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
J Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
So what you are saying is I should go to Vegas and drop a check on Raiders winning the AFC West,AFC Championship and Super Bowl before the odds drop?
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don’t forget to parlay the 3 for 100 to get a mill ticket
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will be in vegas in a couple of weeks will do it then…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Anyway i am ottro…LTR NATION…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
lets stop the bullsh!t with the underthrow. if jc hits him on a line its game over. a accurate line drive throw hits dhb in full stride who will have the chance to run past the defender or adjust himself to side step the guy down the sideline. if he gets popped so what. i saw mcfadden get drilled right after making a catch. this is football dammit and people get hit. yall make me sick with this bullsh!t. we can have our guys hit people hard on defense and its a good job by our team. well shouldnt the other team be allowed to hit us too? 40-70 years ago guys would get clotheslined and it was no big deal. now people biotchin about safeties over the top hitting our wrs. just pathetic.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
DHB has no ball skills. You dont get what I’m gettin at Jhill.
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I just simply disagree with you to an extent on DHB.
I’m fine with the role DHB plays.
That 26 yd pass to Moore was a perfect example of how I’d like the majority of our offense to go. DHB going deep, underneath routes are wide open for guys like Moore, Ford, Boss, McFadden, and Reece.
Mixing in a few throws to DHB to keep the defense aware of his deep threat is cool with me.
Even though that play we are debating was incomplete, it certainly is going to have an impact on the way DCs call a game against us. That had the potential to be a big gainer and DHB was certainly 4 yds behind his guy.
DCs will try and keep DHB in traffic as we all know that is where he struggles. That attempt at creating traffic for him opens up the offense.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Armond,actually the guy was saying DHB can’t take a hit.No use trying to discuss it with them,their minds are made up and no matter what happens they won’t be changed.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
how the hell do any of u know if dhb could take a hit or not? u dont know sh!t! yes he needs to get aggressive going after the ball but none of us knew that ford could make the type of catches he made until we saw him do it. im not blaming the wr for an underthrow. mistic and brien yall are full of sh!t! if gradkowski made that throw u would talk sh!t about his weak arm limiting the offense. thats doesnt make me a jc hater its just the truth.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Armond musta put down a couple of Code Blacks!
I’m with cha mayne!
There is Glo for MVP talk going on. He needs to zip it in there.
They’ll get it together.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
i want jc to be a superstar. we need more than just game manager stuff. if he plays to his ability he should be one of the better qbs in the league. he has to cash in on those money plays when they are there.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
“if Gradkowski made that throw you would talk sh!t about his weak arm”-LMFAO.So true.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
armond Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
how the hell do any of u know if dhb could take a hit or not? u dont know sh!t! yes he needs to get aggressive going after the ball but none of us knew that ford could make the type of catches he made until we saw him do it.
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With all due respect I gotta disagree with you on this point Bruh…I knew what JFORD was…
He is a football player with great ball instincts…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Hue Jackson has no ties to Chaz.
If Al would get rid of Moss b/c Kiffin didn’t want him, hard to imagine Al giving Hue a hard time about parking Chaz on IR.
There are viable option on the roster to replace him.
Bodiford and Hagan look real good as 5th and 6th WR candidates.
Moore can give us everything and more that we were expecting from Chaz.
DHB
Moore
Ford
Murphy
Hagan
Miller/Bodiford
August 13th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
I threw this out there the other day …
Is there any chance we keep 4 TEs and 5 WRs this year?
Gordon looked HUGE out there, and we ran a lot of 2 TE sets.
We are deep at TE, lol.
Don’t see how anyone can say we took a step back at that position.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
lefty im just gettin pissed at the stuff i see in here.its the same sh!t over and over and ive had enuff. nobody saw me complain 1 bit when russell got cut. gave no excuses when he didnt pan out. i waited out to see if he would get it and he didnt. u heard me call up the post game show criticizing him in 09. people in here make excuses for who they like to the point of stupidity. now we should cut chaz before we even know how hurt he is. they turn on muhfuggas left and rightin here. im just done with it man.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Ford is a short cat and would have fought for that ball…even Murphy does at times. When have you seen DHB do that?
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Ford proved that in the 1st KC game last season. Basically bailed out Soup by fighting for the ball.
I’m exaggerating a little by saying Ford bailed him out, that win was a team effort.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Fools gold can go to IR today…
JFORD
DMOORE
LMURPHY
DHB
NMILLER
HAGAN
August 13th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
jhill remember how the jackazzez in here said we shouldnt keep matt shawny cuz he kept sayin u know over and over in his 1rst interview as a pro? be damned that he may have been nervous or just says u know a lot. if it was up to them he would be cut and ballin for some other team. now they love him. pathetic
August 13th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Told you guys this coach is a fool!! CABLE CABLE CABLE At least we’d still have SOME decent players that would’ve stayed!!!
August 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
It seems as though little N.Miller is always overlooked.Granted we have injuries at the WR spot,but Miller was on the field before most of the other WRs.Could it be he is one of those guys the coaches value much more than the fans do?
August 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
This team will have issues with JC and DHB as starters. And that’s not intended as a knock on either one. Let me explain…
DHB’s specialty is going deep and using his speed. JC has trouble with the deep ball. Either JC gets hit timing right and let’s her fly earlier (doubtful considering he struggled with this last year), then they need to look at promoting the guys behind DHB. And it seems like we have quite a bit of depth there too if Moore turns out to be the real deal.
I’m just calling it like I see it. To have someone taking up a valuable WR position where the QB can’t take full advantage of his strengths is a complete waste.
Either JC gets his timing down on the deep ball or you pull DHB. Get a guy in there instead that can take a 15 yard pass and turn it into a 45 yard score.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Better get ready for lots of field goals!
August 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
theco7 u did call out ford. i guess i should say most in here.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
I’ll take Hue over Cable any day of the week and 10 times on Sunday. Cable can go coach the line somewhere. It’s what the guy does best.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
And forget about Schilens. It’s clear the guy is made of porcelain. Let’s move on already.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
he has to cash in on those money plays when they are there.
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Agree 100%.
When Glo throws his deep balls, I get this picture of Nowitzki’s rainbow 3’s.
That ball he put on Moore was on a damn line. I know he has the gun to put that ball on his WRs deep instead of putting so much air under it.
They’ll get it together though.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
TSr,no offense,but besides maybe Ford,who is more likely to turn a 15 yard pass and take it 45 yds to score than DHB?
August 13th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
336.armond Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
theco7 u did call out ford. i guess i should say most in here.
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Man i called out JFORD right after the draft and got ridiculed for it….I even called JFORD RON…Got even more heat…
I said MAY 1st that DMOORE should start…and predicted he would be RON…
All credit goes to our player personnel dept as they have been lights out the last few years…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
TSR i agree to an extent. i believe dhb will get every chance to prove he can be more than a deep threat. he really isnt 1 yet and part of that is jc fault. jc has to use that arm properly. his problem IMO is the attitude it takes to make that throw. u have to have a swagger gunning the ball down field. thats why i would like to see him just fire it on a line more so the ball doesnt hang up too long. the wrs are too fast for him to puzzyfoot around with. just throw the damn ball.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Well, you said it yourself Left. Ford. And I’d like to see what this kid Moore can do.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Yeah, it’s not like we wanted ShoNasty to be the director of public relations.
That was probably just some troll looking for attention.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
333.lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
It seems as though little N.Miller is always overlooked.Granted we have injuries at the WR spot,but Miller was on the field before most of the other WRs.Could it be he is one of those guys the coaches value much more than the fans do?
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Exactly…He balls when he is in, and is our PR…Would never cut him…I keep him before fools gold…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
JCAMPBELL<——- MVP Candidate…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
If JC starts hitting DHB on those deep balls. Then it’s a different story. Now the DBs have to respect DHB’s speed which opens up the short pass. Otherwise? Heck, if I’m a DB I say ‘go ahead DHB, go deep. Lot of good it’ll do you’. At least until JC proves he can hit him.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
1 NATION…
August 13th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Well no post season again this year!
August 13th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I hope they get that deep pass down because, if they do, look out.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
now we should cut chaz before we even know how hurt he is.
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I’m jumping on the cut Chaz bandwagon IF he is hurt at all. Even if it is just a “minor” knee injury.
At some point you have to address the dependabilty factor. It’s not like years past when we didn’t have anything else in the stable.
I’d be all for having Chaz be a part of this and contribute. But we are all sitting here with our fingers crosses hoping we can get 8 games outta this guy.
I’d rather go with Hagan at this point.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Maybe we could get Tiger Woods to QB the team!!
August 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
I have a difficult time understanding how people can’t see the advantage of having DHB taking out 2 defenders almost every play.After he made the 14 yard sideline catch,on the long pass he had a safety cheating to his side.Now,say we have Ford on the other side and Moore in the slot-plus McFadden/Bush,Reese and a TE underneath,can’t you see the problems that creates?As J Hill says a couple of catches by DHB-or even throws his way- will open so much else up.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
JC for MVP? LMAO! Keep dreaming. Let’s just shoot for above average. I’d be happy with that, and so would you.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
At what point do they stop respecting his speed though? Why would you respect an empty threat? Please…If the QB can’t get it there, then as long as my CB can stay within 5 yards of the guy, I can sleep at night.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
DHB is scared of gettin hit, bone crushing hit. He doesn’t know how to roll with a hit.
Sure he has speed. Get the seperation and JC gotta hit him in stride.
But anything short of that is futile. The game has been watered down. These are not your fathers Raiders.
Sidenot not to all: most track stars do not make great football players.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
I have a difficult time understanding how people can’t see the advantage of having DHB taking out 2 defenders almost every play.After he made the 14 yard sideline catch,on the long pass he had a safety cheating to his side.Now,say we have Ford on the other side and Moore in the slot-plus McFadden/Bush,Reese and a TE underneath,can’t you see the problems that creates?As J Hill says a couple of catches by DHB-or even throws his way- will open so much else up.
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Hey, I’m on record supporting his decoy roll, especially if he can take two defenders with him. hell yeah!
August 13th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Lefty,
They also don’t understand that DHB is our best blocking WR.
Ask any RB the value of a WR that can block.
DHB is a 1st and 2nd down WR without question.
Feel free to bring in the so called playmakers on passing downs like Moore, Ford, Boss, and Ausberry. I have no problem with them being early options ahead of DHB.
And if the DC is slippin let DHB get behind your defense and let’s see what happens. If the DC pays attention to DHB, then the playmakers can do their thing underneath.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Using that theory, any team could go and get a track star tomorrow and line him up at WR then just tell him to go deep, oh and take 2 DBs with you. LOL. You guys are hilarious.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
dvrick Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Maybe we could get Tiger Woods to QB the team!!
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Maybe he would make a better coach. QB, I don’t think so. Coach, yes. Seems he may have some pimp-hand.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
When Chaz gets a minor injury it always turns into a year long major deal. If he can’t play because of this one I think I am officially done with him.
Best of luck Chaz you “nicked up” shoulda coulda.
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August 13th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Well,if the QB can’t get it there maybe he is the problem,not the WR.I believe they will get it together,although last year that was JCs weakness.He has to put more into his passes and perhaps let it go a little earlier.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Left. Read my first post on this topic. I never said one or the other were the problem, per se. Again, my observation is not a knock on either. I’m just sayin’…if JC and DHB can’t connect deep, it’s a problem. I don’t think that’s a stretch to say that. You can’t just run a man deep, never make the connection, and expect defenses to keep respecting it.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I just don’t get it. A WR is paid first and foremost to catch passes and gain yards after catch. Make plays and make things happen. But if Coach Davis wants to pay him to be a decoy and a great blocking WR, then more power to him. It’s his money.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Well,
Wifey is finally ready to head out to the 4 year old Bday party that started at 2:30, lol.
Catch you folks later.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Good day, gents. Watched the replay on NFLN this morning.
Didn’t want to comment on JaJason’s play until I saw the entire game.
JaJason did look confident and poised. BFD. He’s supposed to. He’s a 7 yr vet and the ‘unquestioned starter’.
Very nice throw to DMoore. Timing was good and in stride.
Besides that…not so good.
Pass to Reece was underthrown and too close to OOB. Wouldn’t classify it as a horrible throw…I like Reece’s chances in that type of ‘jump ball’ situation…but it was NOT a good pass.
Have to disagree with JFB about the DHB pass. Pass was underthrown but more importantly, it was late. There was a window to get that toss in there. Ball needed to be out quicker, have less float and hit DHB when he was first getting separation. Timing was poor and so was the toss.
Again, poor synchronization and lack of awareness on the 3rd and 2 miss to DHB. That sort of play should come off as a crisp ‘gimme’, instead it seemed doomed from the start.
All in all, a decent effort by JaJason standards. Couple of decent throws, couple of others that could’ve been executed better. No turnovers. No dramatic errors. But nothing to go ‘Mistic’ over.
I’ll give him a C and hope he steps it up against the Whiners.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
If they get it together, GREAT! Heck, I hope they do. But if they don’t, they need to reconsider those 2 as starters, together. Mesh your teams strengths together.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
TSR,did you see how DHB almost broke the tackles for a huge gain the other night,just as he did against Seattle last year.More passes like that should go his way.You are saying because the QB doesn’t get him the ball when he is yards behind his defender,he should be benched.His job is to get open,not throw himself the ball.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
All in all, a decent effort by JaJason standards. Couple of decent throws, couple of others that could’ve been executed better. No turnovers. No dramatic errors. But nothing to go ‘Mistic’ over.
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LOL! I’ve been away for a while. Does Mistic still show up here with his JC pom poms? JC is a legend. JC is putting on a clinic. LOL. That cat cracks me up. I think he once proclaimed JC and Troy Smith as future hall of famers.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Look it is what it is…..DHB AND JC gotta show us….but more so on JC…….im hard on DHB bbecuz he has been awful his entire time here
August 13th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Again, you’re not getting what I’m saying Left. I’m criticizing the duo, not one or the other. If DHB were to get surpassed because of the missed connections with the QB, it wouldn’t necessarily be his fault. The QB couldn’t get it there. But it is what it is….that is, unless we go with a different QB, which isn’t happening.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Hue needs to run the ball…damn get a TD drive in first qtr….show u are ready
August 13th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Im juiced for next Saturday tho. We get to seee even more
August 13th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Initial impression of DVD…
Looks extremely fluid. Very good length. Effortless stride, has the natural speed to make mirroring WRs look easy.
Going to be sorely lacking in run support until he fills out and beefs up. Difficult to know if he’s a willing tackler when necessary, doesn’t have the frame to do so now.
Ball awareness obviously (Hue !) an issue now as evidenced on the Fitz mistake, but have to like the stride for stride cover and blanket job the very next play.
Don’t want to go BHP, but this kid has the tools to be an outstanding corner in a season or two.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
TSR,you are right,I don’t get what you are saying.You seem to be saying if one guy is doing his job but isn’t being successful because the other isn’t doing his job,they should both be blamed.I can’t agree with that.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Neither should be blamed, necessarily. But if they don’t get the job done together, something needs to be done about it. Why is that so difficult to understand? Are you taking things too personal with these players? Look, life sucks. If DHB gets benched because the QB can’t get him the ball, that’s just life. Unless you think the QB should be replaced instead? I’m just saying surround your players with other players that compliment their strengths. That’s football my friend. If that’s tough to understand, I can’t help you.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Why is it AD scholarships given to such unworthy individuals such as
JT the Brick: I can’t stand this guy’s brand of journalism which is more propaganda. Any time this jackass opens his mouth I mute the tv
John Herrera : no comment here
Greg Papa: rah rah rah propagandist big mouth
Sam Williams : are you seriously telling me he’s worth the money thrown at him?
What does that say about AD when his trusted employees are such obvious knuckle heads?
August 13th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Maybe if you stop thinking about it as the players being blamed or punished, you will then understand. Not talking about blame here.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
JT the brick was clearly on the payroll as a PR guy posing as a radio journalist. I still enjoyed him in the early turn of the century doing our radio on 1050 quite simply because we are actually kicking some ass and times were good. I think we all knew he was biased. I still enjoyed him clowning on ignorant whiner fans that thought they’d call the radio station despite it being clearly Raider biased.
Greg Papa. I have no problem with him. It’s Atkinson and Humm that tend to be more rah rah. I can’t stand Atkinson knocking down fans on the radio that call up with fair criticisms. He’s a little over the top in my opinion. Papa I like though. Especially the way he calls Raider TDs. Gets me pumped every time.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
No need to cop an attitude,we are just having a discussion.Oh,well,forget it.If DHB doesn’t do the job and gets benched so be it,he should be and I could care less.But if he does do what the team wants him to,he shouldn’t be punished.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
No attitude. If it came off as attitude, then I apologize. I guess I’m just saying that I’m about done explaining my stance and I’ve said all that I’m going to say on the matter. No worries, Left.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Some other observations…
Very disappointed with the play of #27 Stevie Brown.
Thought he had some ‘ball hawking’ ability based on action last season. Didn’t like what I saw against Az.
Most disturbing was the missed tackle on the last drive.
Hope it was just an off night, but didn’t like what I saw. Could be wrong, need some JHill review on this.
Gaither – False starts were atrocious, not sure how bad he was when he didn’t move early. Need JHill again. Think the FS’s can be eliminated, more concerned about his ability to pass protect.
Moss – one poster already mentioned the play where he spun off blocker, did a 180 and unassisted tackle of RB at LOS. Helluva play. Top notch athleticism.
DMoore – the Natural. No wasted motion from this cat. Punt return showed how dangerous he can be. Excellent speed, elusive, quick, instinctive, sees the field. Snags those passes with his hands and is looking for YAC immediately. Wondered how he had that phenomenal YPC average with the bums he had throwing to him at TN. Now I know.
August 13th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Hill Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Hue Jackson has no ties to Chaz.
If Al would get rid of Moss b/c Kiffin didn’t want him, hard to imagine Al giving Hue a hard time about parking Chaz on IR.
There are viable option on the roster to replace him.
Bodiford and Hagan look real good as 5th and 6th WR candidates.
Moore can give us everything and more that we were expecting from Chaz.
DHB
Moore
Ford
Murphy
Hagan
Miller/Bodiford
330.Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Fools gold can go to IR today…
JFORD
DMOORE
LMURPHY
DHB
NMILLER
HAGAN
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that’s my educated calculations/predictions barring any trade or injury
Chaz has no claim to #1WR he has talent, was a 7th round pick for a reason, does not have a big contract, do not know what his endurance was in college, but in the nfl he is fragile, Raiders simply cannot afford to keep him [even inactive] on the roster, we are a palyoff contender, we will win the division
August 13th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Gaither?
August 13th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Moss – one poster already mentioned the play where he spun off blocker, did a 180 and unassisted tackle of RB at LOS. Helluva play. Top notch athleticism.
One of my favorite plays in the game
August 13th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
# Twocents Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Gaither?
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Sorry, meant Barnes. Been up too many hours. Thanks, Twocents.
August 13th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Moss had one season in a 4-3 before having to switch to 3-4 OLB… complete waste of his skills. It’s nice to see him finding a home in a 4-3 defense that makes the most of his pass-rushing ability and freakish size/athleticism.
August 13th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Not the best start for Jimmy Clausen’s stake to the starting job.
Pick 6 on the first drive, lol.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Im already sick of “obviously”. If he wins I can deal with it if he loses i’ll obviously just wait for AL to fire him.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Yamon figurs is a playmaker lol
August 13th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
This website is not a playmaker.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Obviously, coach HueJack will need to get all of the outstanding young men on this team to play better. If they want to be great, like the great Raider teams of the past.
To do this, he must gather great advice from his outstanding staff to help him, and most obviously he must not be timid in seeking guidance from the all seeing, and all knowing, obviously great coach Davis.
Isn’t there a practice today?
August 13th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Even more embarressing to Hue than always saying “Obviously” and botching his first career coin-toss into two kickoffs at each half, was that embaressing choker he was wearing on Thursday.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Before every Hue Jackson interview I usually post an over under on how many times he says obviously.
It was 25 after his first presser
August 13th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Even more embarressing to Hue than always saying “Obviously” and botching his first career coin-toss into two kickoffs at each half, was that embaressing choker he was wearing on Thursday.
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I didn’t pay much attention to what Hue was wearing.
But, now that I think of it. Was he wearing something that he may have gotten back in the late 80’s, early 90’s???…
August 13th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Enderle in for the Bears.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
He had on a wind-breaker type thing, with the collar opened up like some 70’s Jersey-type guido.
Would have been cool, if not for the chain he was wearing had about 2 inches of slack, and looked like a female choker and not a manly gold chain.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 13th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Im already sick of “obviously”.
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Obviously you’re a dummass dude.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
I hope we don’t have to cut Chaz, but it could hurt us if we don’t.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
They could IR Chaz and he could be ready to participate by week 7 or so.
Not paying him much, so I think you keep him around (IR if need be) for this last season and see if he can muster up anything.
August 13th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
I’ll have to find a pic from the game…
August 13th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Winning at every position is Al 101
August 13th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Wiz 2.0 has a pretty cool look.
Wears the NFL skully with a sweet fu-manchu.
Definately looks like a Raider.
August 13th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Before the Raiders can be restored back to dominance and greatness, they must prove they can commit to excellence, show some pride and poise, and they got-to just win baby!
August 13th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Postgame-Press-Conference/e86ea902-7369-47b1-9677-640beda67baf
August 13th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
[...] View the original here: Coach Jackson conference call transcript – Inside the Oakland … [...]
August 13th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Reality call is comin against the Saints in week 3. I think the Niner game is a must win for us, more than the Niners…should be a good Battle of the Bay.
August 14th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I enjoyed that great comic strip Thursday night,THE WAIDER BABIES!!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
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