No practice today, coach Jackson speaks at 5 p.m.
By Steve Corkran
Friday, August 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders won’t practice again until Saturday in Napa. They were given the day off today so that they could rest from last night’s exhibition game against the Arizona Cardinals. That doesn’t mean there isn’t any Raiders news to pass along.
Coach Hue Jackson will speak with the media via conference call at 5 p.m. At that time, he is expected to provide updates on the status of wide receiver Chaz Schilens and safety Hiram Eugene, both of whom suffered injuries against the Cardinals.
Eugene suffered a dislocated hip and had to be carted off the field. His injury appears to be far more serious than the right knee injury suffered by Schilens at the tail end of an end around.
Schilens was worked on by a team trainer for several minutes behind the Raiders bench. He spent the rest of the night sitting on the bench. He looked fine when he walked from the locker room to the field in the second half.
Beyond that, the Raiders didn’t have any players who suffered any obvious injuries. Who knows, though? We shall find out shortly from coach Jackson.
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August 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Raiders
August 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
#1
August 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:28 am
RRS,
Thats what Im here for to lift up the dead weight like SeaPerch and #21. I also b!tch slap MR, KK, SeyMour666Glen, and tj the bj.
Its a very rewarding job to be perfectly honest.
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This idiot has completely lost his mind.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:25 am
RRS,
SeaPerch has obviously been reading my post going back to last year and felt the heat. He saw what I did to #21.
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Seriously. He has lost what very little mind he had.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
LA does have great music….its too bad the industry wants a certain look and not talent….ive been to some venues that people rocked the joint
August 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I don’t blame Oakland for not wanting to pay for season tickets, but come on man! Support your team! Al’s not going to stick around if your lame asses can’t get out to the stadium.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Chaz Schilens……LOL
Hue said screw it, and gave him an end around to see if he could get up afterwards.
He couldn’t.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Tiger is just sad now
August 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
6.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I don’t blame Oakland for not wanting to pay for season tickets, but come on man! Support your team! Al’s not going to stick around if your lame asses can’t get out to the stadium.
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Still had better crowds than LA days by far….and we have stunk lately…now shut up MR
August 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Al Davis is personally very unpopular in the Bay Area. The Raiders have to convince the locals that they are capable of being run properly.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
At what stage would you be “convinced” Kool Kell?
August 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Willie Mays had 100 mph fastballs thrown at his head and wore a soft cap.
He could have played anywhere.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
You arent kidding he is bawling like a baby now
August 12th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Can’t wait for Hue’s impression of the game. All ESPN shows is the one play by Fitzgerald and they don’t even mention that it was on 2nd stringers.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
788.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Ahhh Hanz Britz your breaking my balls Hanz….I told you I don’t have any weapons of mass destruction!
Do you know what I am saying B@uce….
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Yes yes I think I know what you are saying
August 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Chaz is a China doll. Fortunately, Moore will step right in. I think he will catch at least 50 balls and Murphy will be the 3rd WR.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Willie Mays, cornerback? you folks will argue about anything under the sun.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
11.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
At what stage would you be “convinced” Kool Kell?
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When he becomes black again
August 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Starting WR’s = Bey, Ford
August 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Chaz just needs to retire. He wants to get it done, but his body keeps failing him. It is wasting a roster the roster space for a player who could actually improve and contribute.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
10.KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Al Davis is personally very unpopular in the Bay Area. The Raiders have to convince the locals that they are capable of being run properly.
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This is the place he is most popular at as well
August 12th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
LA is a town of front runners. 10 straight years of brutal beatdowns has caused “Oakland” Raider fan to head for the hills here up north. Who wants to spend thousands of dollars to watch their ass get handed to them? The team loses, everyone blames Davis. If the team won, fans would show up in droves and no one would hate Davis. There’s an expression “winning takes care of everything”. It does.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
I wouldn’t be convinced until I saw new management, or, Different Raider S.O.P’s.
They won a few years with Gruden, but Davis eventually f’d it up. So, Hue having a good year wouldn’t convince me. but I’d take it.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Murphy does face long odds to beat out Al’s pet DHB for the 3rd WR spot, eventhough he is a better player.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Just reminiscing about when men were men.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
When he becomes black again
19.Plunketthead Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Starting WR’s = Bey, Ford
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Damn shame
August 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Twocents Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
LA To TheBay,
When NorCal shuts your water off you’ll be dying in LA.
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Until then, I’ll keep hosing off my driveway once a week while drinking ice COLD beer. lol…
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Obviously, HueJack should have alot to talk about..
August 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Oakland is the Raiders, and the Raiders are Oakland. Case closed.
Sorry if that hurts your feelings guys, but it is the truth. Oakland is the true home of the Raiders and if you just became a “fan” of the Raiders when they were in LA, that’s your bad, not mine.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
The Raiders were dead last in attendance last season:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/year/2010
August 12th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
26.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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That’s not true at all MR you liar
August 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
30.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
The Raiders were dead last in attendance last season:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/year/2010
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I guess the sea gulls don’t count.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
29.ArmChair GM Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Oakland is the Raiders, and the Raiders are Oakland. Case closed.
Sorry if that hurts your feelings guys, but it is the truth. Oakland is the true home of the Raiders and if you just became a “fan” of the Raiders when they were in LA, that’s your bad, not mine.
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lol i got luv for my LA cats…but Oakland is the Raiders
August 12th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
26.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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That’s not true at all MR you liar
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What’s not true, that other cities support losers, or Oakland is poor?
August 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
26.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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This is the dumbest post I’ve read all week. But I’m sure that Kell or MR using his other handle will give this post a run for its money in sheer idiocy.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
24.89052RAIDER Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Murphy does face long odds to beat out Al’s pet DHB for the 3rd WR spot, eventhough he is a better player.
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LOL
August 12th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
ArmChair, what’s so dumb about it?
August 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Hue said screw it, and gave him an end around to see if he could get up afterwards.
He couldn’t.
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Got right up, and jogged from the other side of the field to his sideline.
Just can’t help yourself with the propoganda, eh?
August 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Go for it 909, I’m just being jealous.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
11.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
At what stage would you be “convinced” Kool Kell?
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When he becomes black again
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To neggrs, you’re not black unless
You don’t wear a belt.
You’ve wounded a little girl is a crossfire.
High School dropout.
Don’t work.
Live with and sponging off your grandparents.
Sell drugs in front of an old lady’s house.
Illiterate.
Segregated from Society.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Redskins, Broncos, and Panthers were all in the top 6 in average attendance last season.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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For ten years? Name one.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Chaz is ready to fall off the clift, he’s hanging on by a few roots in the ground which are giving way. Lets not “stomp” on his hands just yet, lets see if he’s playing in our first league game, and if he can live up to all the potential we’ve seen in him when he was playing. He has the tools and the skills, it’s only a health issue with him. So, lets at least hear the prognosis of his injury, if any, before we “stomp” on his hands.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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For ten years? Name one.
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That’s too easy. The Cubs.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
All this bickering & throwing cheap shots each other is a waste of time and space. We’ve also got a number of trolls on here right now. If we just ignore them and not respond to their ridiculous taunts, we’d all be better off & maybe they’d hopefully just go away. This is a Raider blog & we should be discussing everything of interest regarding the S&B.
Here’s what we know for sure:
• The Raiders always have and will continue to be the “Oakland” Raiders
• Gradkowski is gone and will NOT be returning.
• Last nights game was only representative on what to expect when the 1’s were in there.
• On the O-line, Barnes & Carlisle need to be replaced immediately.
• SeaBass was Gold & I hope he continues this trend all season long. He’s a weapon from 60 yards in.
• Soup looked relatively good and he should have a good year.
• DMoore is the real deal and if he starts has a good shot at ROY honors.
• WMcFadden was a disaster last night.
• We will NOT be missing ZMiller this year. Our TE position is solid with excellent back-ups.
• Huff deserves some props. He’s stepping up right where he left last year.
• Bresnahan still has not shown us anything. This is especially true with the 2’s & 3’s.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
10 straight years of brutal beatdowns has caused “Oakland” Raider fan to head for the hills here up north. Who wants to spend thousands of dollars to watch their ass get handed to them? The team loses, everyone blames Davis. If the team won, fans would show up in droves and no one would hate Davis. There’s an expression “winning takes care of everything”. It does.
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Now remind us what the definition of front running is again?
August 12th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
What’s not true, that other cities support losers, or Oakland is poor?
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Oakland is not poor. The Port of Oakland exports and imports BILLIONS of dollars of goods and products into the US. It is the 5th largest port in the COUNTRY.
Are there poor people here in Oakland? Of course, just as there are some very wealthy people here as well.
Answer the following question….What is the only city in California that has sustained a Professional Football, Baseball, and Basketball team for the last 16 years?
Again you lose.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I hope Bey gets it. Most teams would have to put two men on him
August 12th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
35.ArmChair GM Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
26.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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This is the dumbest post I’ve read all week. But I’m sure that Kell or MR using his other handle will give this post a run for its money in sheer idiocy.
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Well, it can’t be the dumbest post you ever read Armchair since Albert is MR.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I didn’t say Oakland was poor. I made an assumption based on the fact that it can’t support an NFL team.
August 12th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
CB Stanford Routt: “I was kind of hoping we would be out there a little longer. … can’t wait until … the Battle of the Bay.”
4 hours ago
August 12th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I didn’t say Oakland was poor.
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Call the psych ward please…This guy has officially lost it. That’s what happens when you are a pathological liar. After a while, you can’t even keep up with your lies anymore.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Redskins, Broncos, and Panthers were all in the top 6 in average attendance last season.
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Washington – all comp tickets paid for by the govt. officials and or corporate lobbists trying to buy votes
Denver – Nothing else to do as no snow in summertime
Carolina – A young franchise in an area with very little else to compete with for fans.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Chaz just needs to retire.
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Retire from what?
Al loves a gamble and he took one on Chaz. Other teams passed in the draft but Al took a chance despite the reputation Chaz had at San Diego State.
The guy’s made out of fuk’n glass.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
LA has no Football team. San Francisco has no Basketball team. San Diego has no basketball team.
Only “poor, widdle, Oakland” has a Professional Football, Baseball and Basketball team. And furthermore has a CHAMPIONSHIP in each sport!
For the record, A city cannot sustain 3 professional sports teams if it is a “poor” city. Idiots.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
I guess I can assume that Oakland is either poor or lazy then. If it’s not poor, then there is no excuse for not filling the stadium.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
If Oakland has rich people and they are not supporting the Raiders, I say tax them until they are forced to leave for South America.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Oakland is a world class sports city. Only city in the largest state in America that has a Pro Basketball, Football, and Baseball team.
Sorry haters, its the truth. Get Ovah It!
August 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
48.Plunketthead Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I hope Bey gets it. Most teams would have to put two men on him
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There is not a single DC in the league that would ignore the threat of a WR who can beat them on one play.
The pass that Glo underthrew to DHB was a prime example.
DHB was 4 yds behind his guy after a double move, but there was a S behind the play. It would not have been a TD.
I just don’t see how some of you can say that there is never a S over the top of DHBs man.
You can joke about him potentially dropping those passes, but I think we all know he would catch half of them. Just like GBs WR dropped 2 sure TD passes, the 2 he caught we back breakers.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Other cities support losing teams. I guess Oakland is just too poor.
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For ten years? Name one.
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That’s too easy. The Cubs.
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So….out of dozens and dozens of professional teams you could find one. And funniest part is their cross town rivals the White Sux couldn’t draw worth a sh**. I don’t think you deserve a medal for that one.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
J Hill,
DHB sux. Face it..He make a million a catch. He scares no one except AL.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
My biggest concern right now with our team is the play of our CBs. My second biggest concern on this team right now is our O-Line (specifically right tackle and left guard).
I’d like an upgrade at right guard as well, but he’s not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Right tackle is a glaring need right now. We can’t have someone that is below-average AND makes tons of penalties.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
The biggest strength on the team right now is at Defensive Line and Running Back.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
DHB is always a threat of going deep. The percentages just aren’t good that it’ll result our way. He doesn’t catch almost 2/3rd of the balls throw his way. Some of that is due to drops. Some of that is due to not positioning himself well when the ball is thrown. Some of that is due to badly thrown balls. But he’s the lowest (even 14% lower than Murphy who dropped a lot).
I am hoping all that practice he did this offseason will raise those percentages and get him more “natural” of a receiver. In which case all those percentages and faults should improve. At least if it steadily improves by the time his contract ends he will be a solid receiver.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
I would say Cleveland is pretty similar to Oakland. They have football, baseball, and basketball. They averaged 20,000 more per game than the Raiders did last season.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
I would say Cleveland is pretty similar to Oakland. They have football, baseball, and basketball. They averaged 20,000 more per game than the Raiders did last season.
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Cleveland also had a 10 win season in 07. That gives fans some hope that 100 losses in a decade doesn’t.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
DHB is the biggest problem the Raiders have. Moore and Ford should be our starting receivers.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
J Hill,
DHB sux.
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I have no problem with you thinking that.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
Maybe does suck. If he does, he’ll only be on the field on running downs and the occasional pass play.
No sweat off my back. I’ll let the coaches figure it out.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Kirk Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
DHB is the biggest problem the Raiders have. Moore and Ford should be our starting receivers.
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Hardly. The Raiders biggest problem is their defensive backfield situation. After that, the offensive line. DHB is going to have a decent year.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
40.KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
11.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
At what stage would you be “convinced” Kool Kell?
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When he becomes black again
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To neggrs, you’re not black unless
You don’t wear a belt.
You’ve wounded a little girl is a crossfire.
High School dropout.
Don’t work.
Live with and sponging off your grandparents.
Sell drugs in front of an old lady’s house.
Illiterate.
Segregated from Society.
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Meltdown lololol….on to happy hour in downtown
August 12th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Real black men don’t wear belts. LOL
August 12th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Just can’t help yourself with the propoganda, eh?
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Isn’t Hue going to the mic with a Chaz injury update here shortly?
August 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
JFB,
Chaz not only got up, he jogged off the field, bruh.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I would like to see suspenders become the new fashion statement. Just say no to crack.
August 12th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Chaz not only got up, he jogged off the field, bruh.
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And onto the injury report.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
The biggest problem for Oakland is clearly DB depth. Our receiving Corp is pretty solid if they can stay healthy.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Coach Jackson doesn’t expand on Eugene, Schilens injuries during conference call.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Coach Jackson said he’s “comfortable” with his young defensive backs, saying they’ll step up in time.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Jackson doles out high praise for C Samson Satele, rookie G/C Stefen Wisniewski, OL Stephon Heyer and rookie OT Joseph Barksdale.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Chaz not only got up, he jogged off the field, bruh.
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And onto the injury report.
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You say some fuuny stuff, Vegas….
August 12th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Looking at the 49ers and thinking our Tackles > theirs .
August 12th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
The Raiders were dead last in attendance last season:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/year/2010
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its really sad support ur damn team are go find another. Raider fans used to be the best now pretty sad. I will always support this team threw thick and thin. Ya i will complain bout them sometimes but never stop supporting them. If i lived in oakland i woukd have season tickets every yr but live out here in oregon. Raiders is all im about and all i no.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
The biggest problem for Oakland is clearly DB depth. Our receiving Corp is pretty solid if they can stay healthy.
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and if cambell can make decent passes. My main complaint for him is his throws are always to low. Needs to get it in the air more over the D lines. If cambell can get more confident with his ability this offense will be good.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
My observances from the game last night.
The 3rd teamers stink.
DVD and McFadden have serious work to do. McFadden more so!
For a veteran, Khalif Barnes making three false start penalties is ridiculous. He needs to keep his his head in the game and stop thinking about catching the ball again. He needs to get lower in his stance also.
I like the way Barksdale looked out there. He should turn out to be a good one with more coaching and reps.
Wiz needs to keep working also on staying on his feet and maintaining balance.
1st team defense looked solid, and I liked the blitz packages.
1st team offense looked decent. Coach Huey was too conservative in the red zone and in 4th down situations. He should have went to for it more, to get his team some game practice on 4th down conversion packages. Going for FG’s in pre season doesn’t make sense, then again, this is Jano and he needs early game experience to get the cob webbs out before the start of season, so he doesn’t miss chip shots that may lose games. Ummmm…
Liked the way Moore and Ausberry looked last night and all the QB’s played decent enough for the first game. Hagan looked good also!
None looked to shaky or rattles and their passes on were good accept for the long ball tosses.
For the next game, I would like to see Coach Huey go for it more on 4th downs. The offense needs to run their 4th down packages in game situations as much as possible when they are on the other teams side of the field.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Best experience a rookie can get…a night covering Larry Fitzgerald
I liked what I saw from Van Dyke.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Eugene is probably out for the year and Mr Glass Schilens didn’t look good on that silly reverse play call that seemed to get him hurt….again! Ugh
August 12th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
im starting to Agree with alot of people that Al has lost it…why the hell would you let Aso #21 go and pay Stanford Routt “Work in progress” to stay??WTF? Miller I can do w out he was injury prone anyway,Its gonna be a long season w teams throwin on us…kiss that #1 ranking goodbye!!
August 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
DVD hung there, but he should have deflected that ball and batted it away, instead of letting Fitz come up with.
He needs to be aggressive and jump for that ball and bat that crap down.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Nnamdi wanted out of Oakland
Al already made him the highest paid CB in the league and Aso had a much better contract here then he does in Philly
August 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Gotta believe that Al is not happy about Chaz on an end around in the first preseason game. I expect Hue to be fired next year.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Raids biggest problem is the WR corps…
No wait…
It’s the OL…
No wait…
It’s the secondary….
No wait…
It’s the LBs….
Hey, if everyone is right about all the problem areas this team is really going to suck.
Except I know that’s not going to happen.
How do I know ?
Because there’s one area that isn’t a problem…
We’ve got the great JaJason at QB !!
SERIOUSLY, there’s valid concern about all the areas mentioned above.
However, I don’t think that any of the perceived ‘problem areas’ are so horrible or are such insurmountable deficiencies as to prevent the Raids from winning the AFC West.
I haven’t had the chance to see last night’s game yet. I’ll get to watch it on the NFLN tonight.
Mistic was here doing his usual ‘JaJason is about to morph into Peyton Manning’ routine and clamoring about what a great performance he had last night.
Would love to see that.
The few plays I have seen didn’t impress, but I didn’t see it all. I’ve got a nagging feeling that Mistic was going nuts over another mediocre JaJason effort.
I’ll say it again for the umpteenth time…
Until proven otherwise, QB remains the biggest area of concern. The other problem areas pale in comparison.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
for me the question mark is going to Chris Johnson, can he step up and be the guy on the corner, and don’t knock Routt, the guy is prone to give up a big one every now and then, but that’s because he’s a risk taker, and he’s been playing the slot, and man coverage against a crossing route through traffic can lead to a giving up a big one now and then.
But I’m going to be watching CJ, I just don’t know if he’s the guy…
August 12th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
and if are WR’s start playing for the PI call instead of going up and getting the ball, I am going to throw the remote through the TV!
Nothing pisses me off more than that, and yeah I’m talking to you Mr. Reese and Mr. Murphy.
Just catch the dang ball and let whatever happens, happen.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
The 2nd team DB’s are going to have to step up as well as CJ and Routt!!
Barnes needs to step it the hell up also, or he will be demoted to the 2nd team if Barksdale and Heyer continue to play well!!
I’m glad we resigned Satele to compete with Wiz!!
August 12th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Defensive line if they stay healthy WILL dominate….Offense …DMAC BUSH D.MOORE J.Ford BOSS and M. REECE….Damn!! Bully no doubt….Glass Schillens needs to stay healthy. oh yeah and DHB IS gonna shut up the critics this year…..
August 12th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Forgot Murph!
August 12th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine, 2 touchdowns in 26 games is not “decent.”
DHB should be 5th on the depth chart.
August 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
big fan Says:
August 11th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
OK Tj, what if my MUP W McFadden gets cut? Do I come off the list (probably so?) or do I get another pick? And were you able to gather any points on how to score this thing, and fine tune the rules?
Just wonderin……………
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repost
August 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
No OTA’s No mini camps and you have a rook with 12 practices going aganist a Pro bowl reciever he did alright Namni was a bust by most his first years you guys bust me up As far as Chaz hope he is alright he will be our best WR that Reverse was bunk he was going out abounds got yanked from behind horsecaller style check he video…
August 12th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
TB working the Queefs, 13-0 now.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Saints 10 Whiners 0
August 12th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RM99,
Glo had a deep pass to Reece that was not a good ball, imo. It actually was OOB, but Reece drew a PI call.
Glo had another deep attempt to DHB that was underthrown.
Those are the passes that concern me with Glo because he puts too much air under the ball.
All the other passes were on point. Even the intermediate throws. A lot of zip and very accurate.
Those deep balls are $ plays though. He needs to be able to get that ball out in front of the WRs instead of lobbing up rainbows.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Niners 1st teamers didn’t look very good.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
I agree with J hILL those Rainbows are killing me he needs to let it go earlier i think and let the reciever run under it.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
What is the deal with 15,000 fans last nite? Not a good way to let Hue know we support him. People going to need to fill up the stadium so the team can feed of the fans and the noise.
Al will pack this gig up and move. Where to, I don’t know, but you’ll know when he gets there.
We do not want the Raiders to leave Oakland, so start showing up at the games and support the team. It works both ways people.
If we don’t support Al, he won’t we inclined to support the fans. Works both ways.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
So with Schallens headed “not able to get up”, I guess it’s time for a revised WR depth chart.
DHB
Ford
Moore
Murphy
Miller
Hagan
Or do we go with 4 TEs since Ausberry has those WR skills?
August 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Revised WR depth chart:
Moore
Ford
Murphy
Miller
Ausberry
Chaz
DHB?
August 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Saints 10 Whiners 0
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This should keep away 9er trolls.
Can’t wait to see the second game. I wanna see some improvement in the Secondary.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Ethridge going down in addition to Eugene is a big blow.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Niners will show Oakland why they ought to be happy we got HueJack to lead the Silver and Black attack and not the former Stanford coach. It will be clear.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
His (JC) two long passes-one to Reese,the other to DHB-were both under thrown.How anyone who knows anything about football can blame either receiver on either pass is incomprehensible.All you are doing is proving you are biased against the said receiver.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Nuts In A Knot Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Niners will show Oakland why they ought to be happy we got HueJack to lead the Silver and Black attack and not the former Stanford coach. It will be clear.
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Dude it’s crystal.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Jhill,
Saw the JaJason pass to Reece, agree it was not a very good ball. Underthrown and close to OOB, but I don’t think that was a horrible toss. I like Reece’s chances on that throw most of the time. I thought Reece actually got away with offensive PI on that play.
Had a bigger problem with the 3rd and 2 incomplete to DHB. Didn’t like JC’s drop, stare down, lack of synchronization with DHB, lack of awareness of the DL on that one. Play looked awkward when it should be a gimme.
Maybe I’m being too critical there. I’d have run it in that situation anyway. Build the bully.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Coach Hue Jackson said earlier this week that, if “they’re keeping score, I want to win.” From that standpoint, Jackson has to be disappointed by the Raiders 24-18 loss to the Arizona Cardinals on Thursday night at the Coliseum.
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I KNEW IT!
August 12th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Ethridge? what up
August 12th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Backup cornerbacks Walter McFadden, DeMarcus Van Dyke and Jeremy Ware, as well as backup safeties Hiram Eugene, Stevie Brown and Jeremy Boyd all struggled in pass coverage.
The Cardinals netted most of their 297 passing yards against those guys, including all three their touchdowns.
A team can’t succeed without more than the starting defensive backs playing well. There comes a time when the nickel and dime backs have to hold up on a consistent basis.
The Raiders counted upon McFadden, Ware, Van Dyke and Chimdi Chekwa, as well as Brown, Eugene and others to help fill the void created by the departure of three-time Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.
It’s apparent that doing so isn’t going to be as easy as hoped for. Simply put, there is no realistic way to replace a player of Asomugha’s considerable talent. It’s going to take heightened play from every defensive player to help offset the loss of Asomugha.
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Not good. Not good at all.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Barnes is a turnstile, has been in practice and was awful in the game please upgrade at this spot he is the weak link on the O-line. Also W. McFadden is horrible cant cover for Sh!T, DVD was ok at times, needs work. Groves would not start on any team besides ours, and get rid of Sam Williams im sure a rookie could take his roster spot and play special teams.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
WR
Chaz
DHB
Murph
Ford
Moore
Miller/Hagan
TE
Boss
Meyer
Brock
Ausberry/Practice Squad
August 12th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
TB 15 KC 0 at the half. Could have been worse. Chefs getting stoned at home. Sweet.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Hill Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Good to hear 99 outta 100 folks say DHB had a decent showing.
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1 out of 3 for a catch that is 14 yards and thats decent? Maybe by his standards. WOW.
Make that 98 outta 100.
If DHB wants to help Oakland win some games, DHB needs to do more than just catch the ball, tho catching it is a big leap for DHB nonetheless, do something after, or when, you catch the fking ball.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Saints destroying the Whiner OL. Think they have 6 sacks already and the half aint over.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Collin K. Got sacked three times in a row, Ha Niners suck, should have picked a real QB when they had the chance.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
There is no way in heck Ausberry goes to the practice squad.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Niners suck, nothing new about that. Now niner trolls can come in here with their tails between their legs and beg for forgiveness, or just spread’em.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I was at the game last night & just finished watching the game again on TV (taped it last night on ch.36). It looked like a different game in many respects as I sit on the East side so the taped plays are from a different perspective – reversed, from the West perspective. Interesting.
What was clear was that Barnes and WMcFadden were responsible for 60% of our penalties. WMcFadden was exceptionally bad. The game plan was pure vanilla. Our D 1’s are for real as is DMoore. Barnes, Carlisle & Loper need to be replaced and or moved to the 2’s. SeaBass is Gold anywhere from 60 yards in. All 3 of our QB’s looked good especially for the 1st game of the season. IMO, TEdwards should be the #2 QB. More the DB should get more playing time. He looked good for the sort time he was in here. NMiller will make the 53 as the #5 or #6 WR and PR/KOR.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Cant wait until our D-line gets after Alex Smith. May set a record for sacks in a game
August 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Swollen Balls Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Hill Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Good to hear 99 outta 100 folks say DHB had a decent showing.
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1 out of 3 for a catch that is 14 yards and thats decent? Maybe by his standards. WOW.
Make that 98 outta 100.
If DHB wants to help Oakland win some games, DHB needs to do more than just catch the ball, tho catching it is a big leap for DHB nonetheless, do something after, or when, you catch the fking ball.
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Did u watch the game? 2 balls were not catchable.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
1 out of 3 for a catch that is 14 yards and thats decent?
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Ok so you don’t like DHB, no problem.
He had 3 passes thrown his way.
A slant pass that Glo had knocked down at the line of scrimmage.
The well documented deep pass that was underthrown by Glo.
And the 14 yd pass completion.
Not sure what you wanted him to do on those other 2 passes, but it’s all good mayne. Hate the guy if you want to.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
ray_d Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Cant wait until our D-line gets after Alex Smith. May set a record for sacks in a game
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Our #1 D-Line yes. Our #2 & #3 D-Line couldn’t pass the LOS. They were pathetic. The opposing QB could have been drinking coffee back there. We drop off badly when with any other than our 2’s. Notable exception, Moss looked decent. We also need a new weak side LB. Groves is NOT the man.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Raiders need to get Sterling Moore in there with the 2nd teamers and dime packages.
Barnes was the obvious one who struggled last night. For a vet like him to make that many penalties in a row in ridiculous! Barksdale and Heyer make get more and more reps. If Loper doesn’t step up than Heyer can play any guard spot or any tackle spot.
Raiders need to try and sign another vet CB from somewhere. I don’t trust McFadden or DVD just yet.
Raiders QB’s looked good overall, except when throwing the deep ball. Too may under throws.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
J Hill,
Great breakdown on passes to DHB. Its almost like people want him to catch everything within a 15yd radius.
August 12th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
J Moss looked like a relentless beast last night as a down DE pass rusher. I like it.
Raiders need to sign LOFA or Captain Kirk to man that WILL weakside OLB spot!!
August 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The truth of the matter concerning Raider fans and an empty stadium is if they had never left town their fan base would be easily in the high 40,000 low 50,000 season ticket holders. When theyleft they lost an entire fan base. The people that go now are essentially a new fan base that is still somewhat fickle. When they win they come but the last 8 years will take at least 3 straight years of playoffs to undo. That stadium was full when Gruden took us to 3 staright division titles but the coaching changes and the losing has taken it’s toll.
We have to WIN…………period
August 12th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
I think Brock and Asberry batle for 3 e spot Asberry a little ligh in the pants Brock is bigger and more excperienced no one knows of Asberry but Raider fans he will make it to Practice squad. Moore on the other hand will make squad 53 Roster. May carry 2 TE Boss & Meyers bringing in Barnes on Jumbo Formations.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Jarvis Moss is one of if NOT THE most important pick up from last year. The affect he can have on this defense can be huge great edge rushers are worth $60+ mill over a 5 year contract. To get an edge rusher for virtually a song is HUGE.
The kid is soo long and soo quick he’s hard to get your hands on him before he’s by you and on the QB’s back. That will cause them to shade protection his way giving Wim single blocker. And if we use LHouston up the gut on passing downs I have a hard time seeing these guys not exceeding last years 49 sacks. We shoud hit 60 sacks this year if JMoss is what I think he is.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Ausberry aint even got started son. Ausberry will make the 53 even if we have to use him as a WR. He’s too damn big and too damn good to be a practice squad player he wouldn’t last on practice squad 10 miniutes before someone else has him……..period
August 12th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
What Ausberry put on film last night every team in the league is looking for.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Gawd!
The 2nd and 3rd team DB’s stunk it up last night!
Then again, there was zero pass rush also. Chuck B didn’t want to blitz in the 2nd half. I counted only 2 blitzes in the 2nd half. One ended up being a sack.
Huey need to get back to scoring TD’s on offense and not settling for FG’s!
August 12th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Here’s my take on our new O-Line configuration: Meet the new starting Raider O-Line (L to R): Veldheer, Heyer, Satele, Lil Wiz & Barksdale.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Gawd!
The 2nd and 3rd team DB’s stunk it up last night!
Then again, there was zero pass rush also. Chuck B didn’t want to blitz in the 2nd half. I counted only 2 blitzes in the 2nd half. One ended up being a sack.
Huey need to get back to scoring TD’s on offense and not settling for FG’s!
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Relax… We don’t need to show off our TD plays in the first pre-season game.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Ausberry aint even got started son. Ausberry will make the 53 even if we have to use him as a WR. He’s too damn big and too damn good to be a practice squad player he wouldn’t last on practice squad 10 minutes before someone else has him……..period
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Totally agree. He wouldn’t last the day on the PS before some other team signed him. I suspect that they’ll find room for him somewhere.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
139.JB Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Here’s my take on our new O-Line configuration: Meet the new starting Raider O-Line (L to R): Veldheer, Heyer, Satele, Lil Wiz & Barksdale.
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I like it.
From your mouth to Hue’s ears.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
JCampbell & our #1 D-Line = Soup & a Sandwich.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Three things that worry me:
1. Our Secondary
2. Our O-Line
3. Our QB’s deep ball (underthrows our fast WRs every time)
August 12th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Gawd!
The 2nd and 3rd team DB’s stunk it up last night!
Then again, there was zero pass rush also. Chuck B didn’t want to blitz in the 2nd half. I counted only 2 blitzes in the 2nd half. One ended up being a sack.
Huey need to get back to scoring TD’s on offense and not settling for FG’s!
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Relax… We don’t need to show off our TD plays in the first pre-season game.
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I was thinking that last night as well. Perhaps Huey and Saunders didn’t want to show the red zone packages, but still, it’s the pre season and some packages need to be practiced in game situations to see how effective they are in a game!
Huety should have went for it on 4th down more often as well, instead of settling for FG’s, but it was good to get Jano ready for game situation kicks.
Next game needs to be the time to practice red zone packages to score TD’s and go for it more on 4th down.
Chuck B needs to blitz more when his 2nd and 3rd teamers are in there in the 2nd half.
Those guys need to build confidence and they need to win more often than they did in this last game.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Ausberry may make this team ahead of Gordon.
Boss, Myers and Ausberry or Brock for that 3rd TE spot.
Gordon or Brock to practice squad!
August 12th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The truth of the matter concerning Raider fans and an empty stadium is if they had never left town their fan base would be easily in the high 40,000 low 50,000 season ticket holders. When theyleft they lost an entire fan base. The people that go now are essentially a new fan base that is still somewhat fickle. When they win they come but the last 8 years will take at least 3 straight years of playoffs to undo. That stadium was full when Gruden took us to 3 staright division titles but the coaching changes and the losing has taken it’s toll.
We have to WIN…………period
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5 Stars. Word.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
I like the new rule that EVERY scoring play is automatically reviewed by the officials. I don’t like the 35 yd. line KO position. Move it back to the 30.
I doubt that we’ll see any real offensive creativity until the season opener when it really counts. Until then, it’s variations of vanilla.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
We need to keep more O-linemen may carry only 2 TE 6 WR
Moore gets a spot. What about RB wheres Jones cant go to practice squad who you cut Bennett/Cartright.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
no one knows of Asberry but Raider fans he will make it to Practice squad.
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All coaches look at film of other teams when it comes to the practice squad or just roster moves in general.
Ausberry has another good game like he did last night, and there is NO WAY he makes it to the practice squad.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
# big fan Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The truth of the matter concerning Raider fans and an empty stadium is if they had never left town their fan base would be easily in the high 40,000 low 50,000 season ticket holders. When theyleft they lost an entire fan base. The people that go now are essentially a new fan base that is still somewhat fickle. When they win they come but the last 8 years will take at least 3 straight years of playoffs to undo. That stadium was full when Gruden took us to 3 staright division titles but the coaching changes and the losing has taken it’s toll.
We have to WIN…………period
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5 Stars. Word.
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The other thing that hurt when it came to sell outs, was the stupid PSL licenses that were implemented when they came back to Oakland. It was a big turn off to fans and they way old man Al got rid of Gruden pissed a lot of the season ticket fan base off!
FACT!
August 12th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
big fan Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The truth of the matter concerning Raider fans and an empty stadium is if they had never left town their fan base would be easily in the high 40,000 low 50,000 season ticket holders. When theyleft they lost an entire fan base. The people that go now are essentially a new fan base that is still somewhat fickle. When they win they come but the last 8 years will take at least 3 straight years of playoffs to undo. That stadium was full when Gruden took us to 3 staright division titles but the coaching changes and the losing has taken it’s toll.
We have to WIN…………period
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5 Stars. Word.
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I totally agree. I was a season ticket holder from 1965 to when they left for LA. This is my first year back. The good news: You can now get some choice seats that in the past had to be inherited. The Raider organization seems to be going out of their way, administration personnel wise, to make sure your experience at the stadium is a pleasant one. The administrative & stadium staff is everywhere and very helpful and accommodating. They are to be commended.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
What if jones goes to IR is he like Bush year wont count we need players to step up quikly this year Bennett is Vet and knows system.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
# omniscience Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
We need to keep more O-linemen may carry only 2 TE 6 WR
Moore gets a spot. What about RB wheres Jones cant go to practice squad who you cut Bennett/Cartright.
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Bennett should get cut without a doubt. He is older than Cartwright and he doesn’t contribute to special teams like Rock does.
Rock is a keeper!
August 12th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Cartwright can be that 3rd RB behind DMC and Bush if Jones is sent to IR.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I seems they always run Bennet in Pre-season more then the other backs he dont go down easily..
August 12th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
# JB Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
big fan Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The truth of the matter concerning Raider fans and an empty stadium is if they had never left town their fan base would be easily in the high 40,000 low 50,000 season ticket holders. When theyleft they lost an entire fan base. The people that go now are essentially a new fan base that is still somewhat fickle. When they win they come but the last 8 years will take at least 3 straight years of playoffs to undo. That stadium was full when Gruden took us to 3 staright division titles but the coaching changes and the losing has taken it’s toll.
We have to WIN…………period
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5 Stars. Word.
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I totally agree. I was a season ticket holder from 1965 to when they left for LA. This is my first year back. The good news: You can now get some choice seats that in the past had to be inherited. The Raider organization seems to be going out of their way, administration personnel wise, to make sure your experience at the stadium is a pleasant one. The administrative & stadium staff is everywhere and very helpful and accommodating. They are to be commended.
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At least they are trying I guess.
It’s mainly Al Davis fault and his alone as to why the fan base that left isn’t buying season tickets.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I probally agree keep Cartright special team factor.
August 12th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Season Ticket holder since came back even had some in LA use to buy the Cheap seats and go sit in the front then go to bar around corner Julies and kick it with the Raideretts no all bad…..
August 12th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Down With Oakland Bay Area Bred… But we need new Stadium Raider Nation. If L A Offers brand New Stadium
Top of the line I don’t know all the FA will want to play there….
August 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
I didn’t see the game and have been going over the comments for awhile. It is good to read some optimistic views from the semi pro’s. I won’t go through my complete wish list but I was really hoping for Barksdale to show up. Sounds like he did a decent job.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
When Jackson speaks,STUPID listens.
August 13th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Beginning to look more and more like Jackson wasn’t as involved in the coaching last year as he pretended to be.Cable was making the calls and decisions all along!!NICE MOVE AL YOU BLIND FOOL!!!
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