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Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes

By Steve Corkran
Sunday, August 14th, 2011 at 7:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Hue Jackson says time and again that, “It’s all about performance.” Rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore is on the verge of putting that idiom to the test.

Every day, Moore not only is the best wide receiver on the field, oftentimes he is the best player, period. It has reached the point where this isn’t some one-week wonder, flash in the pan or fluke. The man can flat out play.

That’s what Jackson says he is looking for, playmakers. No one personifies that more than Moore, a fifth-round draft pick out of Tennessee.

On Sunday, Moore was at it again. Not once, or twice, but three times he had fans and teammates oohing and aahing over his ability to get open, adjust to the ball flight, get position on the defender and make a play on the ball.

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. Moore came down with the ball, but it came out as he hit the ground. The play likely would have been ruled an incompletion, but it’s worth pointing out because few other receivers would have done the things necessary to make it close to a reception.

A bit later, Moore worked the left sideline, positioned himself just inbouns and made an outstretched catch of a dart in front of the defender.

On the third play, Moore beat cornerback Jeremy Ware with a double-move, with Moore continuing toward the end zone as Ware slipped to the ground. Safety Jerome Boyd made a sensational diving play to prevent the wide-open Moore from scoring.

To hear Moore tell it, there’s nothing to see here. What he’s doing is what he always does. Don’t be so surprised.

“I hear it here and there,” Moore said after practice. “Coaches say I’m doing a good job, players say I’m doing a good job – they actually talk to me more. So, I guess I’m fitting in pretty well with the team right now.”

Fitting in? Jackson is going to have some explaining to do if Moore isn’t starting Sept. 12 against the Denver Broncos, or if Moore isn’t on the field a ton. There are 31 coaches and general managers grilling their scouting departments on how they let Moore slip past in the draft.

“It goes without question what he’s doing,” Jackson said. “For me to talk about him, there’s no reason to. … You get to see his plays because he jumps over people and he makes these fantastic catches and he runs with punts and all that.”

*Quite a sight after practice, with second-year left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer and rookie offensive linemen Stefen Wisniewski and Joseph Barksdale getting in some extra work with assistant offensive line coach Steve Wisniewski long after the other players hit the showers.

Perhaps it’s no wonder that Jackson is so high on those guys. As for the two rookies, Jackson said: “Those guys are getting it done.”

And Wisniewski? “We drafted the right guy.”

Wisniewski has been so impressive, Jackson said, that the Raiders have to find a starting spot for him on the line, even if it mean moving him to left guard.

“I’m just trying to, again, just keep finding the right pieces, as you continue to watch the tape each and every night and see what’s gonna’ be our best fit for him,” Jackson said of Wisniewski. “Because he’s a very tremendous player. We drafted the right guy. He has all the qualities that we were looking for. He’s everything that I thought he would be, and he’s gotta’ be up there somewhere. So, if it’s not at center, obviously, he has the capability of playing guard.”

*Barksdale showed his fiery side midway through practice Sunday when he delivered several punches to defensive tackle Tommie Hill at the end of a one-on-one pass-protection drill.

“I’m very all right with it,” Jackson said. “That’s competing. I keep telling you. I’m going to create an environment where our players get better every day. I don’t know any other way to do it. Our players have bought into it.

“We saw iron sharpens iron, and the more you work at it it’s going to get hot, it’s going to get testy, but they all love and respect each other when they go in that locker room. But out there between the lines there’s a job to be done and I think they understand what it takes to get it done.”

Barksdale shrugged off the dustup between he and Hill.

“It happens, man,” Barksdale said. “That was actually self defense. I didn’t start that, if you were watching. But it happens, it’s unfortunate. We are teammates and, at the end of the day, we’re still cool. It gets hot. Things happen.”

*More reason to be giddy over Denarius Moore? Watching him and Nick Miller field punts offers some insight into Moore’s athleticism, grace and versatility.

Moore fields just about every punt with his hands. You wouldn’t hear a sound if you had your eyes closed. Miller tends to field punts against his body, with the sound of the ball hitting his pads quite audible from a distance.

Don’t be surprised to see Moore as one of the primary receivers and the punt returner come Sept. 12.

*Backup defensive tackle Desmond Bryant “has something going on” with his left hand, Jackson admitted.

Something, indeed. Bryant’s left hand had a huge wrap Sunday, though it didn’t seem to affect his ability to play the position. The wrap points to Bryant suffering a fracture of some kind, though that hasn’t been revealed.

*Steve Wisniewski isn’t being shy about his first foray into coaching in the NFL. At one point Sunday, he presided over a drill that featured defensive linemen against offensive linemen as offensive line coach Bob Wylie and defensive line coach Mike Waufle watched and listened in on.

*Rookie receiver Eddie McGee returned to practice after a lenghty absence caused by an undisclosed injury. He has his work cut out for him in terms of doing enough within the next two to three weeks if he is to make the 53-man roster.

*Offensive lineman Stephon Heyer is wearing a protective sleeve on his upper right arm. He said he suffered a strained triceps in practice Saturday and that he won’t be out for too long.

Heyer was signed to compete for a starting spot on the line, and he has made the most of his opportunity so far. He is working at guard and tackle as a means of making himself more versatile.

“I felt good (before the injury),” Heyer said. “Moving around better. Felt like I’m in good shape right now. Definitely was making strides at either position. Just a minor setback. I’ll get some time here to heal up a little bit and get back to work.”

*Turns out, rookie cornerback Chimdi Chekwa has dislocated his left shoulder before. He said he did it three years ago at Ohio State. He played the next game.

Raiders trainers forced Chekwa to sit out several days until they were certain that he is ready for full contact and not at heightened risk of reinjuring his shoulder.

“My approach is to ease back into it, but my mind is telling me to make up for lost time,” Chekwa said. “Every rep I get I try to make the most of it. I’m a little bit harder on myself because I’m just getting to start in practice for real and every time I mess up I get hard on myself, but it’s good to get out there and run around a little bit.”

Missing Oakland’s first exhibition game was the hardest part, Chekwa said.

“It was tough, watching some of the other rookies, (Sterling) Moore and DVD (DeMarcus Van Dyke) out there playing a little bit. I wanted to get out there and compete with them but I couldn’t. I need to be patient. I had an injury, so I had to be patient and kind of ease back into it.”

*Running back Darren McFadden (orbital bone), receivers Chaz Schilens (knee), Murphy (hamstring) and Ford (hand) and defensive end Trevor Scott (knee) missed practice once again. No firm timetable on the return of any of those players, Jackson said.

*Approximately 100 fans attended practice Sunday. This marks the second straight day that the Raiders welcomed a small contingent of fans, when normally their practices are closed to the public.

*Jackson said Sunday that he and managing general partner Al Davis are in constant contact about the state of the Raiders.

“Absolutely! This is his football team, and he lets me drive the engine,” Jackson said. “I talk to him all the time about what we’re doing, where we are, how I feel we are, where we’re getting to. This team has made a lot of strides. … I want them faster. We all do, but it’s been three weeks.

“But I give him my input and, trust me, he listens. And he gives me his input, and on we march. And that’s what this things all about. It’s about working together, and the best way to work together is to be able to communicate. And we do that, and we do that well.”

 *The loss of Hiram Eugene to a dislocated hip brings about the need to find a replacement as the gunner on punts. Jackson said that’s not an easy task.

“It’s very important because Shane (Lechler, punter) depends on those guys to go down there and make plays for him,” Jackson said. “And we have some very young talented players and some veteran players that can do it. We’ll see how that unfolds but, obviously, it’s a tough … job. It’s a job that guys are vying for. They want that job. They want that opportunity because we know how important it is to our football team.”

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564 Responses to “Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes”

  1. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    Yo. Long Live Coach Davis!

  2. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    TSR- Its all good. Al has built this team as much up as he has down. But I do believe he is back on the rise, with the help of HueJack and cast.

  3. Master Beeecham Says:

    This is always my favorite part of a Genital beat down – the poor punching bag gets all flustered and accuses me of stealing his lady’s man blog personality.

    I know, I know … too hilarious!

    Then he’ll refuse to acknowledge that he’s been ducking my generous invitation for an in-person beatdown for the last 6 months!

    C’mon, little Genital … you know you can do it!

  4. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    “But I give him my input and, trust me, he listens. And he gives me his input, and on we march. And that’s what this things all about. It’s about working together, and the best way to work together is to be able to communicate. And we do that, and we do that well.”
    ————————–

    Hue is smarter than the average Joe.

  5. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    There are 31 coaches and general managers grilling their scouting departments on how they let Moore slip past in the draft.
    —————————————–
    They can talk to Al about it if they like. He didn’t let him slip past.

  6. Master Beeecham Says:

    Yet another classic – and hilarious – defeat of Brian the Genital, grandson of KrappyKell. Obviously he’s run for the hills yet again to lick his sizeable wounds.

    And to answer your question, no – it NEVER gets old!

    Alright nerds, I’m off to the after party aboard my boat, where I’ll do special DJ set.

    Then probably get wasted on the PARTYDUDE 8000 and double team these super drunk twins from the valley.

    Beeecham OUT

    MO SHIZZLE = MO WIZZLE

  7. Raider J Says:

    “Jackson is going to have some explaining to do if (D-Wow)Moore isn’t starting Sept. 12 against the Denver Broncos, of if Moore isn’t on the field a ton.”

    Agree. That will send the right message to the team. Get rewarded for good performance. Especially since…

    “No firm timetable” on the return of Chaz, Murph & Ford V12. DHB missed some camp time too.

  8. RaiderMario420 Says:

    *The loss of Hiram Eugene to a dislocated hip brings about the need to find a replacement as the gunner on punts.

    ———————————————————

    Mitchell

  9. PlunkforHOF Says:

    CODE BLACK 2011

    Gonna break my troll rule..

    Methinks Beecham/Chargedup doth protest to much.. ie;=fag

  10. 504 Raider Says:

    By Steve Corkran
    Sunday, August 14th, 2011 at 7:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.

    Raiders coach Hue Jackson says time and again that, “It’s all about performance.” Rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore is on the verge of putting that idiom to the test.
    Every day, Moore not only is the best wide receiver on the field, oftentimes he is the best player, period.
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Big shout out to Priesttj for providing us with tonight’s fix.

  11. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Hey JV.. if you’re reading this blog… You gotta be feeling the love.. Raider on!!

  12. 504 Raider Says:

    I don’t think Chaz Schilens has ever not been on the injury report. I think he first went on it, about three minutes after he hung up the phone with whoever called him and asked him if he wanted to be a Raider, after jumping up and down in his family’s living room.

  13. R8derdiehard Says:

    Hey Steve can you post a little more info on Bruce cambell real curious how he’s doin in camp

  14. irishraiderfan Says:

    The Raiders will blitz more this year than ever because they know after SR and CJ they are razor thin at CB.

  15. inonewordathome Says:

    qb campbell
    wrs DHB Moore Ford
    TE Boss Ausberry
    OL Veldheer Wiz Sammy Heyer Barks
    FB Reece
    RBS DMAC Bush Taiwan

    DL Shaughnessey Kelly Sey Houston
    LBs Wimbley Mcclain Goethel
    Dbs CJ Routt
    SS Branch
    FS Huff

    =2012 Superbowl Champs

  16. 89052RAIDER Says:

    I am surprised no mention of DHB. I am certain this blog entry is shocking to the brown hole priest. How can D Moore be the best receiver each and every day? What about the future Pro Bowler, DHB, according to Brown Hole priest?

  17. hendu Says:

    Post16,guess Im missin something,we need BOTH wideouts to excel,right?Seems that they are,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!

  18. silver-on-black Says:

    Marcel reece is gonna be a bigger version of mcfadden! A playmaker this season.

  19. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Yuppers!!!!

  20. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    McFadden, Bush & Reece = 1 mean machine.

  21. ddsman Says:

    Wow, Master Beeecham you are a douche.

    Reading your posts makes me visualize a guy in an Ed Hardy T-Shirt, adorned with gold chains and doing Jagerbomb shots while yelling out “Raiders Forever”.

    I live closeby, so my buddies and I will gladly come to one of your poser events just to post on the actual events vs. your tagteaming hype. Seriously, we are reading your posts laughing hysterically…AT YOU.

    Try contributing something in life other than Party Mashups…

  22. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
    TSR,you obviously don’t read this blog often,or you would know I’m anything but a Davis apologist.He stole the team from a fan base that,at the time,had the longest sell-out streak in pro football.He’ll never be forgiven for that.
    —————————————————

    I did not know that. That is very interesting. It helps me understand KK’s sincere disdain for Al Davis. But as far as MR is concerned, he is just flat out nasty and he don’t like Al period.

  23. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Well Hue said it. Al talks with him often.

  24. Kirk Says:

    If Moore starts over DHB, I’ll be shocked.

    Al’s scholarship boys always start.

  25. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 14th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
    If Moore starts over DHB, I’ll be shocked.

    Al’s scholarship boys always start.

    ……………………………………….

    I won’t be shocked. But I will be extremely disappointed in Al. I hope he is beyond that now.

  26. Al Davis Support Group Says:

    Kirk, got it backwards. Meant if DHB starts over Moore, could be disappointing. Shocked if Moore is over a scholarship, sure.

  27. Kirk Says:

    If we start DMac with Moore, Ford, and Boss, we should be able to score pretty well.

  28. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Love to see the rookie leadership. The best part is that it lasts for a while.

  29. Raider J Says:

    WRs gotta get healthy to get the timing down with Campbell. No Chaz, Murph or Ford V12, this is a good time for DHB to show and prove.

  30. Carwash Junky Says:

    I can’t tell you all how much I love hangin out at carwashes. I cant get enough of them. I have been in forty and seven states just to tour and check out carwashes. I even spent nine weeks at one just outside of Chicago.

    Car washes is where its at. Car goes in dirty and comes out clean. Unbelievable!

  31. Turducken and Bacon with Cole Slaw on the Side and a Tall glass of water Says:

    Go Raiders. Yeah.

  32. I think the Raiders will have the deepest backfield on all depth charts of any team in the NFL QBs and RBs Says:

    Word.

  33. RaiderSam Says:

    Carwash Junky Says:
    August 14th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    I can’t tell you all how much I love hangin out at carwashes. I cant get enough of them. I have been in forty and seven states just to tour and check out carwashes. I even spent nine weeks at one just outside of Chicago.

    Car washes is where its at. Car goes in dirty and comes out clean. Unbelievable!
    ===============================================
    So glad football season is back and IDIOTIC posts like this are the exception. So glad Denarious Moore is getting it done, now if Barksdale is the same at RT, i can be a little relieved. If Culpepper is a 49er, it may be an interesting match-up this week.

    Eugene out for year, so Stevie Brown will have to step up, big-time. Former Raider Renaldo Hill is avail. in FA and so is Darren Sharper (both working out for Pats this week)

    keep it football, fellas, please?

  34. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Stfu carwash junky. Your a pito

  35. meeze Says:

    im glad all the receivers are hurt that way dhb can run more routes he needs to get better anyway.

    get better dhb in 2011-2012 season

  36. meeze Says:

    jacoby and louis are gonna be alright….. as for chaz i dont know he needs some luck

  37. meeze Says:

    i hate cornball suckas who like the chargers or broncos faaagettaboutit like the italians would say
    you know i dont think the jets or pats are scary at all son you know whats scary? huh? richard seeeemooore( boston accent) yeah were gonna smash bash and crash all the fugazies up outta dere? yeah you go tell em meeze sent ya boy they know what to do

  38. meeze Says:

    raaaidaz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. Try Some Reality Says:

    Is Moore being considered as the starter yet? Wow, this kid is something, eh? Get this guy in with the starters in the preseason games and see what he can do. Draft position be damned. So he was drafted in the later rounds. He’s lighting it up!! Give him a chance.

  40. Try Some Reality Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 14th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
    If we start DMac with Moore, Ford, and Boss, we should be able to score pretty well.

    =========================================

    If Moore starts over DHB, I would happily buy you a beer there sir. Personally, I don’t think it happens. If it does, I will be pleasantly surprised in Davis.

  41. GoodOle00 Says:

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_pre_season

  42. Tricky70390 Says:

    I’m going to be so mad if Moore starts in the regular season and all that skill and talent he became renowned for in camp went out the window. I really hope it doesn’t, but I’ll be soooooo depressed if it did. Someone has got to take Chaz’s job so the organization doesn’t feel like they have to wait on him anymore.

  43. priesttj Says:

    Everyone including myself want to see their favorite player play more. I would love o see David Ausberry play a lot but I know the nuances of the position are much more difficult than he may be ready for. The C position is hotly contested right now. We drafted a great young player and he’s vying for the starting position at C but what happens is fans tend to wnat to see the new guy unless they like the old guy. But Satele is NOT as bad a C as people in here want to believe in fact I think he’s rather good. But for some reason no one likes the guy.

    Playing C is a thinking man’s position it’s just not about girth and size and strength it’a about understanding formations and blocking assignments. Making line calls and getting the Oline set to counter what the defense is trying to do as well as well set the line to execute the play called.

    Satele is a good C and IMHO Wiz can really help us if he mans the OG position vacated by Gallery it makes the entire line better.

    It seems the young OT Barksdale is legit and that is a HUGE help it gives a great depth at that RT position now we can fil the RG position much easier. I think though Bruce Campbell is going to have a lot to say about who ultimatey gets that spot before the preseason is over.

    Now to everyone pet peeve DHB no one is pulling for DHB more tghan me. But as far as him starting I couldn’t care less. What I want from DHB is to continue working and honing his skills because he has a world of potential and can be a huge addition to that rec’s corp. How Hue uses him is up to Hue. I want to win if playing Moore as a starter helps us win no one more in favor of that happening than myself. I told everyone about that kid before you ever had an after thought of him. I’m a HUGE DMoore fan as I am a TJ fan whether they start or not is NOT my affair tha’s up to the coaches. I just want the players to be utilized to the best of THEIR abilities instead of some preconceaved notion. Like some coach wnating to prove HE KNOWS BETTER than MR Davis I hate that element of this entire thing I care about putting the best players on the field and putting them in position to succeed. Just eliminate the entire what does Mr Davis think out of the equation. Mr Davis wwants to win can YOU WIN if you can do that he does care if you play curious Georg. But fans have this idea that he favors one player over another. HE DRAFTED THEM ALL they are all HIS players he wnats the coach to coach them to the best of his ability………….period

    But the fans and the media just don’t understand or fathom that. DHB is NOT Mr Davis’ love child, he’s a player and if he can play, play him if he can’t sit him and then cut him. He did it to Russell and he’ll do it to DHB if he cannot cut it……………period

  44. priesttj Says:

    The organization isn’t WAITING on Chaz they see a talented player that they feel cna help them and their protecting their interest. If Chaz couldn’t contribute they wouldn’t care he’d get released the truth is he can flat out play. They have drafted 5 WR’s since him, but why cut hm when the guy can play and his cap # is nill?

    They’ve brought in at least 10 WR through FA and draft and trade so I’m not sure what you mean wait on him? If they didn’t think he could help them win he’d be out the door in a NY second. Chaz is a luxury at this point they have moved on and he has to catch up because the train is leaving either he gets on it or he gets left…………period

  45. That Dirty Raccoon Says:

    CODE BLACK 2011

    Hung on them Donkey Azze’s!!!

  46. Tricky70390 Says:

    I know the guy can play and they know the guy can play and that’s why they’re waiting on him. My point is if they find a replacement then they wouldn’t have to feel as devoted to him because his talent and realize he won’t be able to put that talent on the football field since he’s always injured

  47. raidertbone Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:13 am

    The organization isn’t WAITING on Chaz they see a talented player that they feel cna help them and their protecting their interest. If Chaz couldn’t contribute they wouldn’t care he’d get released the truth is he can flat out play. They have drafted 5 WR’s since him, but why cut hm when the guy can play and his cap # is nill?

    They’ve brought in at least 10 WR through FA and draft and trade so I’m not sure what you mean wait on him? If they didn’t think he could help them win he’d be out the door in a NY second. Chaz is a luxury at this point they have moved on and he has to catch up because the train is leaving either he gets on it or he gets left…………period
    _______________________________________

    Chaz’s cap number may be low, but it’s kind of a moot point if he always ends up on IR. Bottom line = he is NOT helping the team, so enough is enough. Receivers with injury problems have been let go by teams around the league — they may catch on with other teams, but (typically) they are never the same. Unfortunately, Chaz’s window of being a good, dependable receiver in the NFL is closing fast. I say that the Raiders should cut their losses now.

  48. That Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Raiderbonr… Word!

    Although he is one if our best WR (when healthy)!

  49. raidertbone Says:

    Just finished watching the rest of the game on TiVO — not bad! Trent Edwards looked pretty sharp. Mental lapses resulted in some needless penalties and three fumbles (although we got them all back). DVD was a little shaky, but he got a LOT of valuable reps. Khalif and Walter McFadden looked like “deer in the headlights” all night. A throwaway drive at the end of the game was the only difference between winning and losing. Aside from the final score (which means nothing, really), I liked a lot of what I saw. RAIDER ON!

  50. raidertbone Says:

    That Dirty Raccoon Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 3:46 am

    Raiderbonr… Word!

    Although he is one if our best WR (when healthy)!
    ________________________________________–

    Really, I got nothin’ but love for Chaz. However, this is a business. Does Chaz make our team better, with all of his injury issues and other young, explosive, hungry receivers on the roster? The answer is a BIG, FAT, HAIRY “NO!”

  51. kaufman26 Says:

    All the calls for more blitzing that you often see on here are mis-guided, IMO. Al Davis is right – you are better off getting pressure from just your front four and having the other guys in coverage. If your front four are completely useless and cannot get in the QBs face then, yeah, you have to look at bringing one or two extra guys from somewhere unexpected.

    But Raider Dline is perfectly capable of getting after the QB. That being the case, blitzing should be saved for certain specific situations – for example, if we are going up against a very inexperienced and not very competent Oline/teams with backs that cannot pass block well or a QB that does not read defenses well and/or is a Corky Collins type with a wind-up throwing motion, meaning that he’s not gonna get the “hot read,” throw off in a hurry.

    Also, having let Nnamdi walk, we really are going to need to look at providing some safety help for the corners at times — if Bresnahan finds the courage to do that (wrath of Al.)

  52. Oakland Raiders: Stephon Heyer Misses Valuable Reps with Triceps Injury : My Blog Says:

    [...] Heyer said it was minor, and that he expected to be back to action soon. Here is some info I found on thedisabledlist.com about triceps injury recover times: [...]

  53. raidertbone Says:

    Oakland Raiders: Stephon Heyer Misses Valuable Reps with Triceps Injury : My Blog Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 4:17 am

    [...] Heyer said it was minor, and that he expected to be back to action soon. Here is some info I found on thedisabledlist.com about triceps injury recover times: [...]
    _____________________________________________

    At this point, not extremely newsworthy …

  54. That Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Good mornin NATION.

  55. raidertbone Says:

    Whassup, Dirty Rac?!!!

  56. raidertbone Says:

    I’ll bet Gradkowski wishes he was back in Oakland, now. Bengals may have the worst team in football …

  57. That Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Raidertbone Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 3:48 am
    That Dirty Raccoon Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 3:46 am

    Raiderbonr… Word!

    Although he is one if our best WR (when healthy)!
    ________________________________________–

    Really, I got nothin’ but love for Chaz. However, this is a business. Does Chaz make our team better, with all of his injury issues and other young, explosive, hungry receivers on the roster? The answer is a BIG, FA
    T, HAIRY “NO!”

    ::::::
    Yeah, he makes the team better when he is healthy.
    ::::::::::

  58. Charged Up! Says:

    Grads will be fine in Cincinatti. After Dalton is benched or injured, he will play a lot. It’s the perfect match up of a garbage QB with a garbage team.

  59. Oakland Raiders Training Camp: Best News So Far Joe Barksdale Gets in a Fight and Other Weekend Notes : My Blog Says:

    [...] over for more notes gleaned from the notes of Jerry McDonald, Steve Corkran and Vittorio [...]

  60. Thec07 Says:

    But Raider Dline is perfectly capable of getting after the QB. That being the case, blitzing should be saved for certain specific situations – for example, if we are going up against a very inexperienced and not very competent Oline/teams with backs that cannot pass block well or a QB that does not read defenses well and/or is a Corky Collins type with a wind-up throwing motion, meaning that he’s not gonna get the “hot read,” throw off in a hurry.

    ++++++++++++

    totally disagree with the above statements…the way to beat philip rivers is to attack him, and one of the most effective ways at attacking him is blitzing…

    Go back and look at last years games…

  61. raidertbone Says:

    Improved D-line play and the ability of the linebackers to be able to help out significantly in pass coverage will largely determine the number of blitzes.

  62. raidertbone Says:

    It will be interesting to see how the defense looks when we have all the starters out on the field at once. I can’t wait to see “Run-DMC” back in action. Boss and Ausberry both look good; I think the Raiders will be alright, even without Zach.

  63. raidertbone Says:

    Hue to Team Captains:
    “Alright guys, when you go out on the field, here are your two choices: Receive, or Defer. That’s it; don’t say anything else!”

  64. imaquaman Says:

    looks like we could have our 60-70 catch reciever in moore,lets hope history doesnt repeat its self ,and moore go down returning punts like tim brown did

  65. Thec07 Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 5:54 am
    Hue to Team Captains:
    “Alright guys, when you go out on the field, here are your two choices: Receive, or Defer. That’s it; don’t say anything else!”
    ++++++

    fck mike & mike…

  66. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!

  67. raidertbone Says:

    I am hoping that we have another Louis Murphy in the form of D. Moore – someone who dropped all the way down to the Raiders; someone who no one really gave a shot to make roster; someone with speed and good hands who shocked the world! (Okay, maybe Louis Murphy hasn’t shocked the world, just yet!)

  68. raidertbone Says:

    Welcome in, Hwnrdr – did you go to the game?

  69. raidertbone Says:

    49er quarterbacks = short honeymoon for Harbaugh

  70. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Tbone…no I didn’t. That is the one game every year that I give away my tickets because i have no one to watch my kids on a Thursday night…I will be there on Sunday the 28th though…right at noon as the parking gates open.

  71. Deja vu Says:

    Notes: McFadden is still sidelined because of a fractured orbital bone. … Rookie Joseph Barksdale(notes) took reps at left tackle after spending most of camp at right tackle. Barksdale was also involved in a fracas with teammate Tommie Hill(notes). Barksdale threw three punches during the scrum before the two were separated.

    ——————————–

    I wish they would leave this guy at RT to have an opprtunity to beat out Barnes. I’m just not comfortable with Barnes at RT, even before his “mistakes”

    Must be Satele is your starting center for the monday night opener. Wiz was projected to be the starting center before Samson signed, now they’re trying to find a starting spot for the young man. I don’t have a problem with Samson playing center and Wiz at LG for now.

  72. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I told everyone about that kid before you ever had an after thought of him

    **************************

    LOL!!!

    You keep telling yourself that Priest.

  73. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I said for months leading up to the draft that I think Wiz will play G not Center in the league.

    The guy is clearly more comfortable at G, he only played one year of center in college and that was two years ago.

    I think he can be an All-Pro, fringe HOF guard like his uncle, and maybe just an average C.

  74. Que Says:

    Hello Raider family, im not a regular but im back from the summer of disgust. Nice to be able to watch the nfl again. I am excited about the youth on offensive line and Im sure quite a few of us had a feeling the raiders stole one in moore when he was drafted. Good job AL only thing I ask is dont let this guy play anything but WR and stay healthy. Also if only we kept Nnamdi its highly upsetting to have to go out and buy another authentic raider jersey again. If the offensive line and corners can play we could have a nice season. Heres to fingers crossed and go raiders forever

  75. Que Says:

    Oh please AL find a young QB and let hue teach him. we should have drafted one

  76. Thec07 Says:

    I told everyone about that kid before you ever had an after thought of him

    **************************

    LOL!!!

    You keep telling yourself that Priest.
    ++++++++++++

    As I recall you did have him on your draft board.

  77. Thec07 Says:

    1. Thec07 Says:
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:42 am
    I can see moore starting, i like the way he catches the ball, and makes great adjustments…Best pick of our draft from a value/rd in my opinion…

    1. Thec07 Says:
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Ford, Murphy, Moore….Thats your starting WR corp…
    If schallens is healthy then he can fight with murphy…

    1. Thec07 Says:
    May 1st, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    Moore is the best pick in this years draft class from a value and round selected perspective…Will be between he and wiz on who wins RON this year….

    ++++++++++

    I took some heat when I posted the above back in may…
    Baring injury these will come to pass…

  78. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As I recall you did have him on your draft board.

    ************************

    You know I did, but you don’t hear me beating my chest over it.

    I posted a link a few weeks back, from two weeks before the draft on a Saturday. I had Moore as my 4th round pick, and Young American and I were discussing WR’s and Moore and others.

    Meanwhile, Priest is right in the mix, saying nothing on Moore and raving about Jonathan Baldwin.

    LOL, the dude cracks me up with this stuff.

  79. Thec07 Says:

    Not factored in was the rise of DHB…

    He will be a real contributor to our offense this year…

  80. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When Thec07 discusses WR’s, everyone should stop and listen.

  81. bcz24 Says:

    I will reserve my judgement on DMo17 until I see him playing against 1s in the next few weeks.

  82. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s the realistic glass half-full projections for DHB?

    I’m thinking 50 catches 850 yards and 7 TD’s would be a dream-like scenario from him, and about the peak of his ceiling (at least this year).

    I don’t think he will get the run to be able to put up those type of numbers, but we shall see.

  83. Thec07 Says:

    You know I did, but you don’t hear me beating my chest over it.

    +++++++++

    Why not? Shows your player personel prowess….

    Every chance i get on this blog I will remind folks about some of my outlandish predictions, like JFORD, and DMOORE starting and winning RON…

  84. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 6:48 am
    What’s the realistic glass half-full projections for DHB?

    I’m thinking 50 catches 850 yards and 7 TD’s would be a dream-like scenario from him, and about the peak of his ceiling (at least this year).

    I don’t think he will get the run to be able to put up those type of numbers, but we shall see.

    ++++++++++

    Thats realistic JFB, he will have a break out season this year…

  85. kaufman26 Says:

    TheoC – in the first SD game then, sure, we dialled up some blitzes at the end of the game, when they were not really expecting it. But it certainly wasn’t a staple of the approach earlier in the game.

    The second game in San Diego, Raider Dline really dominated that game, from start to finish, IMO.

  86. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 6:46 am
    When Thec07 discusses WR’s, everyone should stop and listen.
    +++++++

    To be honest I saw some games with JFORD, and DMOORE
    I sw the game live where he took that big hit against alabama…

    The credit should however go to our player personel department…They have been doing a great job of uncoveing talent to put us in a position to win…

    Kudo’s to the :o ther forces”..

  87. Thec07 Says:

    kaufman26 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 6:53 am
    TheoC – in the first SD game then, sure, we dialled up some blitzes at the end of the game, when they were not really expecting it. But it certainly wasn’t a staple of the approach earlier in the game.

    The second game in San Diego, Raider Dline really dominated that game, from start to finish, IMO.
    ++++++

    If our dline can generate the pressure that is needed to make the QB uncomfrtable, hit him in the mouth, and chase his A$$ out of the pocket I am all for it…

    I am also for mixing up the D…I liked what I saw in sending huff, and who ever else…

    Not sure what you mean by staple, the blitz should be a feature of our D IMO…However, time will tell if our D Line can get to the QB with the base 4….

  88. raidertbone Says:

    Hue has “committed to getting the ball to Darrius”. So, let’s see, once the season starts. He had a good catch against the Cardinals — looked good, but it’s early yet. When LIVE action starts and the game is on the line, let’s see if he can run good routes and make solid catches. He will have his opportunities this year – pencil him in as a starter. Hope for the best …

  89. bcz24 Says:

    I am starting to agree with you Thec07 on DHB. Imo he looked very good in his limited action against the Cards. Looks to me like we will be carrying 6 WRs through the season, and wont be suiting a 3rd qb.

    DHB, Moore, Murphy, Ford, Chaz, Miller

  90. raidertbone Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 6:58 am

    I am starting to agree with you Thec07 on DHB. Imo he looked very good in his limited action against the Cards. Looks to me like we will be carrying 6 WRs through the season, and wont be suiting a 3rd qb.

    DHB, Moore, Murphy, Ford, Chaz, Miller
    _____________________________________

    I disagree. In this league, you need a 3rd quarterback. Chaz needs to go; the other 5 receivers you mentioned will all stick. With the other weapons, we don’t need “Fragile” Chaz.

  91. Thec07 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 6:47 am
    I will reserve my judgement on DMo17 until I see him playing against 1s in the next few weeks.

    ++++++++

    I am curious to see how the coaching staff handles all the weapons we have…The team the org has assembled can and will cause nightmares…

    Reece
    *Ausberry
    Boss
    DHB
    JFORD
    TJ
    DMAC
    JFORD
    LMURPHY
    DMAC
    MBUSH
    *DMOORE
    ** CHAZ

    * Denotes player is a rookie
    ** Denotes player may or may not be available due to injury.

  92. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DHB looked pretty impressive last year in preseason as well, just as an FYI.

    I think Chaz will end up on IR at some point here, and you HAVE TO KEEP 3 QB’s in today’s NFL.

    Jerry tweeted that Raiders teams in the past have only kept 3 safeties, so that might be where we thin out.

  93. Thec07 Says:

    We carried 6 WR’s and 3 QB’s last year…

    We wont change that IMO…

  94. bcz24 Says:

    I disagree. In this league, you need a 3rd quarterback. Chaz needs to go; the other 5 receivers you mentioned will all stick. With the other weapons, we don’t need “Fragile” Chaz.
    ****************
    I dont mean we wont carry a 3rd on the 53 man roster, I mean we wont suit up the 3rd qb on game day, because of the way the new rule works for the 46th player.

  95. 89052RAIDER Says:

    DHB may have 12 receptions on 50 targets and zero touchdowns. That is his ceiling. Moore will double his career output by mid season and start fewer games because Al will still have a steel rod for DHB. DHB will be great. Get over it, right, brown hole priest!?

  96. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Thec07,

    Which players do you think we should send in on blitzes?

    Besides Huffy, MM34 I don’t think many of the others are any good at it.

    Wimbley is, but I don’t consider that a “blitz”. Branch has shown well, especially in run-blitzes.

    But McClain, Groves, Routt, CJ37 and the rest flat out stink at blitzing, and we would be better served, IMO, leaving them be.

  97. raidertbone Says:

    89052RAIDER Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 7:07 am

    DHB may have 12 receptions on 50 targets and zero touchdowns. That is his ceiling. Moore will double his career output by mid season and start fewer games because Al will still have a steel rod for DHB. DHB will be great. Get over it, right, brown hole priest!?
    _________________________________-

    Premature ejaculation …

  98. bcz24 Says:

    93.Thec07 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 7:06 am
    We carried 6 WR’s and 3 QB’s last year…

    We wont change that IMO…
    *****************
    There is a rule change this year. Last year the 46th suited player for each game day was the 3rd qb, and he was restricted because if the 3rd qb entered the game before the 4th qtr then the other 2 could NOT return. No the 46th player can be anyone and there is no 3rd qb restriction. We dont have a ‘wildcat QB’ on the roster, and I dont see a need for us to suit 3 qbs on game day, when that valuable roster spot can be used by someone contributing to the game.

  99. bcz24 Says:

    But McClain, Groves, Routt, CJ37 and the rest flat out stink at blitzing, and we would be better served, IMO, leaving them be.
    ***************
    Ware looked pretty good blitzing too.

  100. raidertbone Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 7:08 am

    Thec07,

    Which players do you think we should send in on blitzes?

    Besides Huffy, MM34 I don’t think many of the others are any good at it.

    Wimbley is, but I don’t consider that a “blitz”. Branch has shown well, especially in run-blitzes.

    But McClain, Groves, Routt, CJ37 and the rest flat out stink at blitzing, and we would be better served, IMO, leaving them be.
    ____________________________________

    I agree; besides Huff, Mitchell and Wimbley, that’s not one of our strengths. Plus, if Moss and Shonasty continue to show up like beasts, we’ll be good.

  101. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Brown hole priest writes:”Now to everyone pet peeve DHB no one is pulling for DHB more tghan me. But as far as him starting I couldn’t care less. What I want from DHB is to continue working and honing his skills because he has a world of potential and can be a huge addition to that rec’s corp. How Hue uses him is up to Hue.”

    That is comedy. How Hue uses the marginal-UFL talent, DHB is up to Al, not Hue. World of potential? What do you based that on? His speed? DHB is already a bust and he starting last year cost the team games as the offense was playing 10 on 11..

  102. raidertbone Says:

    Ware looked pretty good blitzing too.
    _______________________________-

    If you’ll look at tape, you’ll see that he telegraphs his move when he’s gonna blitz. He needs to concentrate on what Coach Woodson is teaching him about “pulling the trigger” and work on his tackling technique.

  103. raidertbone Says:

    When I was watching the game on TiVO, I noticed that Hue is sporting a silver choker chain. Did he have that last year?

  104. raidertbone Says:

    Out now … back later.

  105. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That choker was straight from the Justin Beiber collection.

    Beyond embaressing. Doesn’t really scream Raider football does it??

  106. Thec07 Says:

    JFB, I agree with your assement on who should and should not blitz…We are going to have to develop other players that can hhadle this task, as it wil be telegraphic to an OCO if we only have a handful of guys that can…

  107. Thec07 Says:

    you guys enjoy the day…1 NATION…

  108. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And Huff is pretty good in coverage, so blitzing him frequently could have some consequences on the back end.

    I’m not a huge fan of blitzing with our starting team. Obviously you have to do it, even just for the sake of switching things up.

    I just want them to be more creative defensively, disguise coverages better, give the opposing QB’s some different pre-snap looks and the like.

    Creative doesn’t always mean send more men in on a blitz.

  109. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Big Question: Can Heyward-Bey fix hands?
    June, 15, 2010

    By Bill Williamson

    Will Oakland receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey make big strides in his second NFL season after a disappointing rookie campaign?

    Heyward-Bey will be one of the most closely watched second-year players in the NFL.

    Oakland receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey had just nine catches his rookie season.
    He must show improvement after a terrible rookie season. Heyward-Bey had only nine catches for 124 yards in 11 starts. Those are staggering numbers. Heyward-Bey’s college reputation for having unreliable hands continued in his rookie season.

    The Raiders were widely criticized for taking the Maryland product with the seventh pick over Michael Crabtree, who was considered the best receiver prospect available. Crabtree, who went at No. 10 to San Francisco, had 48 catches despite holding out for five games.

    The Raiders believe in Heyward-Bey. Last weekend, they sent out a rare press release expressing their expectations for Heyward-Bey. Recent reports say he has looked good in OTAs.

    The Raiders clearly think Heyward-Bey can provide big things. But after his rookie season, hopes must be tempered. It’s terrific that he has made offseason strides, but the kid must show he can perform and hold onto the ball when it counts.

    Heyward-Bey has the ability to make plays in the NFL. He is very fast and a hard worker. But he has a lot of work to do.

    If Heyward-Bey can stay in the starting lineup, learn to catch consistently and come up with 40 to 50 catches this season, it would have to be considered a success for him. But the key for Heyward-Bey is to continue to get better catching the ball. Until he shows he can do that on a regular basis, the jury is still out.

    Answer last year? NO! This year, again..NO

  110. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Crabtree stats:2010 Regular Season 55 741 13.5 60 6 40 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
    Career 103 1,366 13.3 60 8 67 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 1

    I only wish DHB was this type of bust.

  111. kaufman26 Says:

    I strongly believe that a good, smart QB with a good line would actively want an opponent to blitz – after all, it just leaves holes in coverage and if you are smart enough to read where the man is coming from…

    As for DHB, I have not seen a less natural pass-catcher. He’s having to work his tail off to try and get by sweat and tears to a place that a natural wideout would automatically be at. The first big test of the Hue regime is whether he has the clout and authority to have D Moore take a large portion of starting snaps, or whether the Al is going to insist on Bey getting them, even though we also have Ford and Murphy.

  112. Dakota Says:

    AFC WEST PREVIEW:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=1ff48884-2c8e-4dae-b144-863f7d37cb48

  113. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rookie safety Zac Etheridge suffered a knee injury against the Cardinals, Jackson said.

    Stephon Heyer was escorted from the field midway through practice with what Jackson thinks is a strained triceps

    ***

    more injuries?

    DANG!

  114. BadMoodGuy Says:

    The “highest point” would be approximately half way between the QB and the receiver. I don’t think Moore is actually THAT good.

    BAN THE TROLLS!!! or at least make them take Physics 101 so they don’t also spread the ignorance of gravity.

  115. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wide receiver Chaz Schilens has a sprained right knee, Jackson said. Schilens is week to week. He did not practice Saturday.

    Jackson wants to be extra cautious with Schilens because of how vital he is to the offense when healthy.

    “He’s a big guy, he’s dominant in what he does,” Jackson said. “He’s a big target for our quarterback.

    Schilens and Louis Murphy are the projected starters based on their experience

    ***

    week to week?

    good thing we didn’t place him on I.R.

    Doesn’t sound like Hue Jackson wants to place him on the waived/injured (injury settlement) list either!

    anybody seen Thec?

    LOL!

  116. BigTed707 Says:

    -BHP’s MUP List-
    18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
    1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
    504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
    666 ; DVD – CB
    8RaiderReign8 ; Travis Goethel – LB
    909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
    Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
    B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
    Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
    Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
    BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
    Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
    Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
    BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
    BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
    CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
    Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
    Dakota ; Chaz – WR
    Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
    Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
    Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
    Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
    FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
    Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
    GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
    Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
    HayesDaze37 ; MM34 – S
    Hueknows ; DHB – WR
    HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
    J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
    JB ; Chaz Schillens – WR
    JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
    Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
    JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
    KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
    LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
    LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
    LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
    Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
    LTR ; DHB – WR
    M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
    Marios ; Barksdale – OL
    Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
    Meeze ; MM34 – S
    Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
    MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
    Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
    Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
    PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    Priest ; David Ausberry – WR
    Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
    R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
    Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
    RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
    RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
    RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
    Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
    RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
    RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
    Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
    Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
    Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
    Redshirt ; Trent Edwards – QB
    RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
    Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
    SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
    Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
    SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
    SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
    SnB ; Chaz – WR
    SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
    Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
    Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
    YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB

    *For changes and additions to the list, please include “MUP” in your post. Thanks for playing!

  117. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Samson Satele took most, if not all, of the snaps with the first-team offense. Rookie Stefen Wisniewski received some reps at left guard with the starting unit

    ***

    Wiz II to replace Loper at LG?

    Maybe ROG was right ???

  118. BigTed707 Says:

    CODE BLACK = Jarvis Moss trapping fart in Colin Kaepernick’s Helmet!

  119. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jackson doled out high praise for Darrius Heyward-Bey for his three receptions, including one that he turned into a long touchdown.

    “He’s gotten better,” Jackson said. “The guy caught the ball in the game. We threw it to him, and he caught it. He went up and made a play on a contested catch. As I told you guys before, there’s no question in my mind that, at some point in time, he’s going to start coming down with those.

    “He is working his tail off. He is very determined. He had a great day today. He’s catching the ball when we throw it to him, and that’s what matters. Obviously, his confidence is up, and the quarterback’s confidence is up in him. We just keep on going, and he’s doing a heck of a job.”

    ***

    Jhill,

    pretty solid for your 5th WR, no?

  120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rookie cornerback Chimdi Chekwa (shoulder) returned to practice, but he still hasn’t been cleared to do too much. He dislocated his shoulder earlier in camp. Fellow cornerback Joe Porter also returned to practice after a long absence

    ***

    great news!

    more DB’s = more competition in the secondary :)

  121. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “You’re going to laugh, that’s as vanilla as I’ve been in a long time,” Jackson said. “That was vanilla ice cream. I mean, there was no cherry on the top, no sprinkles. There was nothing to that. That was basic, Raider football. You’ll know when I decide to open up this can. We ain’t opened it yet. There’s no need to. We’re still teaching our team.”

    ***

    Hue Jackson isn’t lacking in confidence, is he?

    Raider football = basic & vanilla?

    Al Davis won’t be pleased with that comment.

    At least he didn’t say “We’re not losers anymore”

  122. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “at least make them take Physics 101 so they don’t also spread the ignorance of gravity.”

    Gravity created the universe.

  123. bcz24 Says:

    Gravity created the universe.
    ************
    Sir Isaac Newton created gravity.

  124. Dakota Says:

    Well, Ray Guy sold his 3 SB rings for $80K….

  125. inonewordraider Says:

    kaufman26 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 7:34 am
    I strongly believe that a good, smart QB with a good line would actively want an opponent to blitz – after all, it just leaves holes in coverage and if you are smart enough to read where the man is coming from…

    As for DHB, I have not seen a less natural pass-catcher. He’s having to work his tail off to try and get by sweat and tears to a place that a natural wideout would automatically be at. The first big test of the Hue regime is whether he has the clout and authority to have D Moore take a large portion of starting snaps, or whether the Al is going to insist on Bey getting them, even though we also have Ford and Murphy.

    In one preseason game this year with DHB having limited practice due to injury he made the only catchable reception thrown his way and burned his man on an underthrown ball on another. With Chaz Murphy and Ford injured he is our 2nd best receiver so why shouldn’t he start? Let’s see what he does during the preseason b4 we throw him off the cliff

  126. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Sir Isaac Newton created gravity.”

    You mean “Discovered” gravity.

  127. Dakota Says:

    So, who would Moore replace at WR? Ford in the slot or Murphy or DHB on the outsides?

  128. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chaz has a sprain, and we’ll be week to week with it.

    I think he’ll heal quickly from this and be back out here very soon. – Hue Jackson

    ***

    booyah, suckas!

  129. Silverandblack666 Says:

    When the Monday night Denver game kicks off and I see DHB starting instead of the other wide out who have played better during camp and preseason, we will all know that AD is forcing Hue’s hand.

    This will be a true tell as to how much power Hue has, or will he be forced to play the Scholarship player and lose the respect of his men.

  130. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My system is not about a system. My system is about the players that I have, and you put players in position to have success, period.

    ***

    Hue Jackson saying “period” basically makes it official, right?

    He just won over 95 percent of this blog (if he hadn’t already) as Head Coach by finishing his sentence that way!

  131. Raiderbuck Says:

    112.Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 8:10 am
    AFC WEST PREVIEW:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=1ff48884-2c8e-4dae-b144-863f7d37cb48

    nice way they fit the Raiders in the last 10 seconds of the freakin’ video. No respect. Time to go ram it down their throats!!!!

  132. Deja vu Says:

    3 wide

    Moore should take over Chaz’s spot, with Ford in the slot, and Murph on the other side.

    Rotating DHB in occasionally in for Moore for certain plays.

  133. Dakota Says:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Moore playing Murphy’s Z receiver spot against the Cards?

  134. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Are you looking forward to the Battle of the Bay against the 49ers?

    Yes, I am. I’m looking forward to the next opponent. I mean, we just lost. So, next team, we’re ready to play. We’re ready to put this team back out there, get better and make the next jump. I think our guys will be ready to perform.

    ***

    Does anybody else think that Hue Jackson will throw the kitchen sink at the 49ers (as far as play calling goes) since they gave him a token Rooney Rule HC interview with no actual consideration for the job since they had already decided on Jim Harbaugh from Stanford?

    Hue Jackson against SF last season was also the WORST I have seen his play calling. I mean PATHETIC. Most fans want to blame Jason Campbell for that, but it just isn’t logical to do so. Another “heroic” blog favorite who whiffed against SF last year was Jacoby Ford. Down by 8 points – JCamp hit him with a perfectly thrown pass on 3rd down just beyond the sticks. one that only he (not the defender) could have snagged. It hit him in the hands & chest and he dropped it. In comes Lechler to punt again with 2 minutes left in the game

  135. inonewordraider Says:

    DHB is our 2nd best receiver with Chaz Murphy and Ford hurt. Why not withold judgement until the end of preseason? And if Murphy starts over Moore is Al still forcing his hand? You don’t think Al likes the guy he drafted in the 5th round?

  136. Dakota Says:

    They had a great shot of DHBs catch during the game. He made the catch, but it really showed that he does not run a crisp route.

    Wasn’t much of a cut at all, more like a circling lumber.

  137. MistaBrown Says:

    Obviously.

  138. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chekwa & BCamp are both back at practice.

    that means Trevor Scott is the only dude left eligible for the PUP list

  139. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    132.Deja vu Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 8:59 am
    3 wide

    Moore should take over Chaz’s spot, with Ford in the slot, and Murph on the other side.

    Rotating DHB in occasionally in for Moore for certain plays.

    ****************************

    LOL yeah Chaz aint lookin to hot right now…..Let’s see Moore pick it up in SF….yeah DHB should be 4th WR still

  140. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    135.inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:10 am
    DHB is our 2nd best receiver with Chaz Murphy and Ford hurt. Why not withold judgement until the end of preseason? And if Murphy starts over Moore is Al still forcing his hand? You don’t think Al likes the guy he drafted in the 5th round?

    ***************************

    Wooooo 2nd best? That’s stretching it dont ya think? I’ll take Hagan….hell even nicki miller is about even with DHB lol

  141. RaiderRockstar Says:

    There hasn’t been any further word on whether the Raiders remain interested in signing veteran linebacker Lofa Tatupu. They worked him out early in camp but held back on making an offer

    ***

    they didn’t make him an offer?

    DANG!

    Groves, Goethel, Davis & Williams must be tearing it up in camp :P

  142. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    109.89052RAIDER Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 7:30 am
    Big Question: Can Heyward-Bey fix hands?
    June, 15, 2010

    By Bill Williamson

    Will Oakland receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey make big strides in his second NFL season after a disappointing rookie campaign?

    Heyward-Bey will be one of the most closely watched second-year players in the NFL.

    Oakland receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey had just nine catches his rookie season.
    He must show improvement after a terrible rookie season. Heyward-Bey had only nine catches for 124 yards in 11 starts. Those are staggering numbers. Heyward-Bey’s college reputation for having unreliable hands continued in his rookie season.

    The Raiders were widely criticized for taking the Maryland product with the seventh pick over Michael Crabtree, who was considered the best receiver prospect available. Crabtree, who went at No. 10 to San Francisco, had 48 catches despite holding out for five games.

    The Raiders believe in Heyward-Bey. Last weekend, they sent out a rare press release expressing their expectations for Heyward-Bey. Recent reports say he has looked good in OTAs.

    The Raiders clearly think Heyward-Bey can provide big things. But after his rookie season, hopes must be tempered. It’s terrific that he has made offseason strides, but the kid must show he can perform and hold onto the ball when it counts.

    Heyward-Bey has the ability to make plays in the NFL. He is very fast and a hard worker. But he has a lot of work to do.

    If Heyward-Bey can stay in the starting lineup, learn to catch consistently and come up with 40 to 50 catches this season, it would have to be considered a success for him. But the key for Heyward-Bey is to continue to get better catching the ball. Until he shows he can do that on a regular basis, the jury is still out.

    Answer last year? NO! This year, again..NO

    ********************************

    HAHAHA

  143. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    134.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:03 am
    Are you looking forward to the Battle of the Bay against the 49ers?

    Yes, I am. I’m looking forward to the next opponent. I mean, we just lost. So, next team, we’re ready to play. We’re ready to put this team back out there, get better and make the next jump. I think our guys will be ready to perform.

    ***

    Does anybody else think that Hue Jackson will throw the kitchen sink at the 49ers (as far as play calling goes) since they gave him a token Rooney Rule HC interview with no actual consideration for the job since they had already decided on Jim Harbaugh from Stanford?

    Hue Jackson against SF last season was also the WORST I have seen his play calling. I mean PATHETIC. Most fans want to blame Jason Campbell for that, but it just isn’t logical to do so. Another “heroic” blog favorite who whiffed against SF last year was Jacoby Ford. Down by 8 points – JCamp hit him with a perfectly thrown pass on 3rd down just beyond the sticks. one that only he (not the defender) could have snagged. It hit him in the hands & chest and he dropped it. In comes Lechler to punt again with 2 minutes left in the game

    ******************************

    That became an INT to Spikes….and then I surely went off in the crowd like a madman……I’m sure the entire Raider team will be up for this game here. They need to break the niners off something vicious Saturday cuz we have a better squad for sure

  144. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nicki miller is about even with DHB

    ***

    ROG,

    I’ll take Heybaybay over that undrafted white smurf with no game 24/7 – Thanks!

  145. bcz24 Says:

    127.Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 8:50 am
    So, who would Moore replace at WR? Ford in the slot or Murphy or DHB on the outsides?
    **************
    I dont care who he replaces. By midseason he will be our #1 guy, and I bet he leads the team in receptions by year end. Put the playmaker on the field!

  146. r8eray Says:

    RR, I agree with you on that SF game…..the play calling was one of the worst all season!!

  147. bcz24 Says:

    That became an INT to Spikes….and then I surely went off in the crowd like a madman……I’m sure the entire Raider team will be up for this game here. They need to break the niners off something vicious Saturday cuz we have a better squad for sure
    *****************
    San Frans offense was down right offensive on saturday. They were just terrible all the way through the depth chart.

  148. inonewordraider Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:19 am
    135.inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:10 am
    DHB is our 2nd best receiver with Chaz Murphy and Ford hurt. Why not withold judgement until the end of preseason? And if Murphy starts over Moore is Al still forcing his hand? You don’t think Al likes the guy he drafted in the 5th round?

    ***************************

    Wooooo 2nd best? That’s stretching it dont ya think? I’ll take Hagan….hell even nicki miller is about even with DHB lol

    ok would you rather give the reps to DHB who showed progress from year 1 to year 2 with all that potential or to journeymen like Hagan or NMiller?

  149. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I agree with you on that SF game…..the play calling was one of the worst all season!!

    ***

    Ray,

    Hue laid an egg. no way to sugarcoat that stinker

    Hope he comes back with a vengeance!

  150. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Put the playmaker on the field!

    ***

    Agreed.

    If DHB continues to play like a rookie 5th rounder and Moore continues to play like a Top 10 pick heading into his 3rd season, there is NO REASON why he shouldn’t be on the field starting. Makes Jason Campbell’s job a lot easier

    more Moore!

  151. BigTed707 Says:

    53 Man Roster:

    QB: J-Camp(8), Edwards(5), Boller(7)

    RB: DMC(20), Bush(29), T.Jones(36), Cartwright(25)

    FB: Reece(45), Tonga(4)

    WR: Ford(12), Murphy(18), D.Moore(17), DHB(85), Shillens(81), N.Miller(89)

    OL: Jveld(68), Wiz II(61), Satele(64), Carlisle(66), Barksdale(72), Heyer(75), Loper(60), B-Camp(74), Schuening(67)

    TE: Boss(87), Meyers(83)

    DL: Houston(99), Seymour(92), Kelly(93), Sho’nasty(77), J.Moss(94), Bryant(90), J.Henderson(79), Scott(91)

    LB: Wimbley(96), RoMAC(55), Q.Groves(52), Goethel(50), Williams(54), Francis(47), Boyd(40)

    CB: Routt(26), C.Johnson(37), DVD(38), Ware(23), S.Moore(39)

    S: Huff(24), Branch(33), Mitchell(34), S.Brown(27)

    ST: Jano(11), Lechler(9), Condo(59)

    Practice Squad:

    Ausberry(86) TE/WR
    Brodine(95) DE
    Pelc(71) OL
    Chekwa(35) DB
    Gordon(82) TE
    Gbadyu(48) LB
    Cumbie(73) DT
    Ethridge(43) DB

  152. YoungAmerican Says:

    Tonga will not be on the roster. Ausberry will.

  153. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ted,

    you’re keeping Jerome Boyd & Nick Miller over Ausberry & Hagan?

    DANG!

    We need all the sure hands we can get on offense imo

    compromise?

    Ausberry to the practice squad and slice lil nicky to bring in Terrell Owens at WR!

  154. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tonga will not be on the roster. Ausberry will.

    ***

    Yeah, Tonga won’t make it unless Reece gets “nicked”

    we don’t use the term INJURED in Oakland :)

  155. inonewordraider Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:34 am
    53 Man Roster:

    QB: J-Camp(8), Edwards(5), Boller(7)

    RB: DMC(20), Bush(29), T.Jones(36), Cartwright(25)

    FB: Reece(45), Tonga(4)

    WR: Ford(12), Murphy(18), D.Moore(17), DHB(85), Shillens(81), N.Miller(89)

    OL: Jveld(68), Wiz II(61), Satele(64), Carlisle(66), Barksdale(72), Heyer(75), Loper(60), B-Camp(74), Schuening(67)

    TE: Boss(87), Meyers(83)

    DL: Houston(99), Seymour(92), Kelly(93), Sho’nasty(77), J.Moss(94), Bryant(90), J.Henderson(79), Scott(91)

    LB: Wimbley(96), RoMAC(55), Q.Groves(52), Goethel(50), Williams(54), Francis(47), Boyd(40)

    CB: Routt(26), C.Johnson(37), DVD(38), Ware(23), S.Moore(39)

    S: Huff(24), Branch(33), Mitchell(34), S.Brown(27)

    ST: Jano(11), Lechler(9), Condo(59)

    Practice Squad:

    Ausberry(86) TE/WR
    Brodine(95) DE
    Pelc(71) OL
    Chekwa(35) DB
    Gordon(82) TE
    Gbadyu(48) LB
    Cumbie(73) DT
    Ethridge(43) DB

    Who’s our backup LT in this scenario? I hope Ausberry makes the cut over Myers as he’s a big mismatch for Safety’s or LB’s. Boyd/Francis as backup LBs YIKES!

  156. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Every day, Moore not only is the best wide receiver on the field, oftentimes he is the best player, period.

    ***

    LOL! “period” again?

    Steve obviously reads the comments section here

  157. inonewordraider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:38 am
    Ted,

    you’re keeping Jerome Boyd & Nick Miller over Ausberry & Hagan?

    DANG!

    We need all the sure hands we can get on offense imo

    compromise?

    Ausberry to the practice squad and slice lil nicky to bring in Terrell Owens at WR!

    do we keep NMiller as backup PR or KR in case Ford or DMoore get hurt?

  158. Raiderbuck Says:

    I finally watched the game on the NFL network, funny how NFL Ticket doesn’t include preseaon games, Hagan got lucky on that long pass. He dodn’t fight for the ball it just sort of fell into his hands.
    Jason Campbell did look a lot smoother in the pocket and behind Center in general, Edwards seems like a really good QB to be 3rd string, God speed Hiram, D.Moore seems like the real deal. Ausberry shows promise, great catch in the endzone, great goal line stance by the second team DL, Seabass looks ready to go, but I’d be happier if he scored less 3 points and our offense scored more td’s. Lots of times down in the red zone and not many TD’s.

  159. JB Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    53 Man Roster:

    QB: J-Camp(8), Edwards(5), Boller(7)

    RB: DMC(20), Bush(29), T.Jones(36), Cartwright(25)

    FB: Reece(45), Tonga(4)

    WR: Ford(12), Murphy(18), D.Moore(17), DHB(85), Shillens(81), N.Miller(89)

    OL: Jveld(68), Wiz II(61), Satele(64), Carlisle(66), Barksdale(72), Heyer(75), Loper(60), B-Camp(74), Schuening(67)

    TE: Boss(87), Meyers(83)

    DL: Houston(99), Seymour(92), Kelly(93), Sho’nasty(77), J.Moss(94), Bryant(90), J.Henderson(79), Scott(91)

    LB: Wimbley(96), RoMAC(55), Q.Groves(52), Goethel(50), Williams(54), Francis(47), Boyd(40)

    CB: Routt(26), C.Johnson(37), DVD(38), Ware(23), S.Moore(39)

    S: Huff(24), Branch(33), Mitchell(34), S.Brown(27)

    ST: Jano(11), Lechler(9), Condo(59)

    Practice Squad:

    Ausberry(86) TE/WR
    Brodine(95) DE
    Pelc(71) OL
    Chekwa(35) DB
    Gordon(82) TE
    Gbadyu(48) LB
    Cumbie(73) DT
    Ethridge(43) DB
    ***********************

    I think you are probably close. Here’s my exceptions to your list:
    • Ausberry(86) TE/WR on the 53
    • Francis (47) to PS
    • Chekwa(35) DB on the 53
    • Tonga (4) to PS

  160. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Barksdale showed his fiery side midway through practice Sunday when he delivered several punches to defensive tackle Tommie Hill at the end of a one-on-one pass-protection drill.

    ***

    I thought JFB said this guy was similar to Kwame Harris?

    Barks is throwing punches. Harris used to get slapped around by his sister!

  161. inonewordraider Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:43 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:38 am
    Ted,

    you’re keeping Jerome Boyd & Nick Miller over Ausberry & Hagan?

    DANG!

    We need all the sure hands we can get on offense imo

    compromise?

    Ausberry to the practice squad and slice lil nicky to bring in Terrell Owens at WR!

    do we keep NMiller as backup PR or KR in case Ford or DMoore get hurt?

    on 2nd thought we can just sign that former pittsburgh running back we had returning kicks 2 years ago what was his name again? that had to be the slowest kr man all time

  162. JB Says:

    Ausberry will NOT go to the PS. He wouldn’t last one day before another team signed him. AD & HuJack know his so he goes on the 53. He’s going to be very special.

  163. Dakota Says:

    I thought both of the Rookies looked pretty good out there on the o-line.

    Makes me feel a bit better about us not adding a good vet G or T.

    Barnes and Loper will not be on the o-line for long hopefully.

  164. YoungAmerican Says:

    The Raiders didn’t draft two TEs and sign Boss because they were happy with Barnes being the #3 TE last season.

  165. RaiderRockstar Says:

    do we keep NMiller as backup PR or KR in case Ford or DMoore get hurt?

    ***

    inonewordraider,

    Nope. you only keep the guys that make plays. Nick Miller doesn’t

    It’s either Moore or Ford at PR. If they both end up starting at WR – DHB or Murphy better snag that job and hang on for dear life. Obviously fragile Chaz isn’t a candidate. Hagan or Bodiford = next man up!

    Is Sterling Moore getting a shot at it?

  166. JB Says:

    Barksdale is the real deal and IMO the best prospect for starting at ORT.

  167. JB Says:

    NMiller will also make the 53. When he’s in he does make plays and DOES catch the ball. His PR & KOR abilities are a plus. I see him making the 53.

  168. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sign that former pittsburgh running back we had returning kicks 2 years ago what was his name again? that had to be the slowest kr man all time

    ***

    LOL. Gary Russell?

    he was on kick returns only

    Jacoby Ford has that job on lock down after last season’s performance (outside of the Jacksonville game!)

  169. inonewordraider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:50 am
    do we keep NMiller as backup PR or KR in case Ford or DMoore get hurt?

    ***

    inonewordraider,

    Nope. you only keep the guys that make plays. Nick Miller doesn’t

    It’s either Moore or Ford at PR. If they both end up starting at WR – DHB or Murphy better snag that job and hang on for dear life. Obviously fragile Chaz isn’t a candidate. Hagan or Bodiford = next man up!

    Is Sterling Moore getting a shot at it?

    heard DVD was but those fast cb’s we have should work on it to make themselves more valuable. at this point our best kr is ford and our best pr is ford but those guys are vital and you hate to increase risk of injury by making one fill in for the other

  170. inonewordraider Says:

    best pr is MOore I mean

  171. J Hill Says:

    In an effort to get D Moore as many touches as possible, he my PR guy.

    Ford is going to play, Murphy is going to play, DHB is going to play, and Chaz is going to play if he’s healthy.

    Moore is certainly going to get some snaps at WR, but I don’t see him just flat out sitting all the other guys down.

  172. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Big Ted

    I agree with most my edis:

    Ausberry in at TE, I aloso think Tonga will not make the cut, but remain on practice squad as back up FB, Hue would much rather have that 3rd TE, and I would not be surprised if Ausberry is 2nd string and Meyers is 3rd or cut/traded (Gordon will be practice squad for more than one position);

    Hagan in at WR (for either N. Miller, Murphy traded, or C. Schilens waived if lingering injuries continue);

    Lamaak in at Tackle -backup of course- either Loper or Carlisle will be traded, Barnes might still make the squad as I think we will carry 9 OL on the 53 man roster;

    Hill makes the 53 man roster on the DLine at the expense of one of the back up LBs- Boyd

    Chekwa makes the roster as well- either Ware, McFadden, or Brown get traded other teams are hurting in terms of DBs, we will get a 5th at least for one of them.

  173. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Moore is certainly going to get some snaps at WR, but I don’t see him just flat out sitting all the other guys down.

    Hill, We do!

  174. RaiderRockstar Says:

    iron sharpens iron

    ***

    another Tom Cable quote stolen by Hue Jackson

    WOW!!!

  175. J Hill Says:

    Another thing you just can’t discount is the fact that we are a running team first. A WR’s ability to block is going be a huge factor in playing time as well.

    If over half of our plays involves the WR blocking someone, then you have to factor that in.

  176. Straight-Up-Raider Says:

    I don’t see Chaz staying on the roster this season. Big Al has got to be tired of this guy always getting hurt in training camp.. We cna use that roster spot on someone like moore and Nick Miller.. Come on Nick I’m pulling for you..

  177. LA to TheBay Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:06 am
    Another thing you just can’t discount is the fact that we are a running team first. A WR’s ability to block is going be a huge factor in playing time as well.

    If over half of our plays involves the WR blocking someone, then you have to factor that in.

    ———————

    Good point. Who are the best blocking WRs on the team? Survey says:

    1. DHB
    2. Murphy

    Those are your starters, with Ford getting significant time.

  178. LA to TheBay Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:05 am
    iron sharpens iron

    ***

    another Tom Cable quote stolen by Hue Jackson

    WOW!!!

    ————

    You know a lot of guys say that, right?

  179. LA to TheBay Says:

    Hue Jack City® > Fred Flintstone

  180. J Hill Says:

    We can take the blog whipping boy outta the conversation and Moore still doesn’t start ahead of Chaz and Ford, all things being equal.

    And how do you just completely take away Murphy’s snaps?

    Maybe we see a few more plays outta the shotgun with 4 WRs.

    But I doubt that with Boss and Ausberry on the squad.

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hagan in at WR (for either N. Miller, Murphy traded, or C. Schilens waived if lingering injuries continue);

    Lamaak in at Tackle -backup of course- either Loper or Carlisle will be traded, Barnes might still make the squad as I think we will carry 9 OL on the 53 man roster;

    ***

    Retribution,

    you don’t trade Murphy to make room for Hagan. you slice Nick Miller the roster spot killer

    you don’t chop Loper or Carlisle when we’re short at guard. BCamp just had his first (limited) practice and Wiz II at LG is a work in progress – he’s a natural RG though

    Barnes won’t be needed at 3TE so if his penalties persist – boot him

  182. BigTed707 Says:

    I like Jerome Boyd on the 53 for special teams, Plus he can play OLB or SS.

    I’d like to see Ausberry in a couple more games before I trade him for Meyers, or Tonga.
    (I like Tonga because he is a true FB, but he may be obsolete in this offence).

    I like N.Miller for ‘teams as well.

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Come on Nick I’m pulling for you..

    ***

    Lions fans rooted for Matt Millen as GM, too

  184. LA to TheBay Says:

    Nick Miller the roster spot killer
    ———-

    LOL!

    Nick Miller is the Vanilla Thrilla in Manilla, get over it.

  185. bcz24 Says:

    165.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:50 am
    do we keep NMiller as backup PR or KR in case Ford or DMoore get hurt?

    ***

    inonewordraider,

    Nope. you only keep the guys that make plays. Nick Miller doesn’t

    It’s either Moore or Ford at PR. If they both end up starting at WR – DHB or Murphy better snag that job and hang on for dear life. Obviously fragile Chaz isn’t a candidate. Hagan or Bodiford = next man up!

    Is Sterling Moore getting a shot at it?
    ********************
    Taiwan Jones was an outstanding returner in college as well.

  186. LA to TheBay Says:

    Ausberry, Meyers, Boss Man are your three TEs.

  187. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Taiwan Jones was an outstanding returner in college as well

    ***

    thanks, BCZ.

    Jones & Moore at PR = better than white webster on their worst day!

  188. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    154.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:40 am
    Tonga will not be on the roster. Ausberry will.

    ***

    Yeah, Tonga won’t make it unless Reece gets “nicked”

    we don’t use the term INJURED in Oakland

    ******************************

    Yeah sure cut him so if Reece goes down we have who to block for DMAC and Bush? They would be stupid this time to cut Tonga….Reece cant run block for schit and yall know it

  189. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    179.LA to TheBay Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:11 am
    Hue Jack City® > Fred Flintstone

    **********************

    Correction…Barney Rubble….Cable is too dumb to be Fred

  190. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Saunders is about to make the Raiders the Greatest Foe on turf….

    Moore and Moore, we are looking that way…

  191. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    RRS…Nicki Miller does suck but DHB takes suckin to the next level

  192. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    182.BigTed707 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:12 am
    I like Jerome Boyd on the 53 for special teams, Plus he can play OLB or SS.

    I’d like to see Ausberry in a couple more games before I trade him for Meyers, or Tonga.
    (I like Tonga because he is a true FB, but he may be obsolete in this offence).

    I like N.Miller for ‘teams as well.
    ************************

    When late november december games come up then january games we will see how obsolete he is when Reece cant open holes for the running game

  193. J Hill Says:

    I like Jerome Boyd on the 53 for special teams, Plus he can play OLB or SS.

    ——————————————————

    I thought Boyd was one of the worst players on the field this past weekend. I’m going to have to keep my eye on him against the niners since you think he’s a good player.

    I think he’s going to have a hard time making it as a 5th S. Let’s see if they put him at gunner to try and replace Eugene.

  194. YoungAmerican Says:

    Yeah sure cut him so if Reece goes down we have who to block for DMAC and Bush? They would be stupid this time to cut Tonga….Reece cant run block for schit and yall know it

    ————

    The Raiders’ #2 ranked run game didn’t seem to suffer much because of Reece’s blocking skills or lack thereof.

    The Raiders aren’t going to carry two fullbacks. Tonga will go on the practice squad.

  195. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ROG,

    you knows how this works. don’t play dumb. you’re a semi pro for a reason

    how many FB’s did the Raiders keep on the roster last year? one. Reece

    We finished #2 in rushing with a fat receiver like Marcel lead blocking

    why would we waste a spot for Tonga this year when we didn’t last year? Mayonaisse to the practice squad again. If he signs elsewhere? what have we really lost?

  196. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    159.JB Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:46 am
    BigTed707 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    53 Man Roster:

    QB: J-Camp(8), Edwards(5), Boller(7)

    RB: DMC(20), Bush(29), T.Jones(36), Cartwright(25)

    FB: Reece(45), Tonga(4)

    WR: Ford(12), Murphy(18), D.Moore(17), DHB(85), Shillens(81), N.Miller(89)

    OL: Jveld(68), Wiz II(61), Satele(64), Carlisle(66), Barksdale(72), Heyer(75), Loper(60), B-Camp(74), Schuening(67)

    TE: Boss(87), Meyers(83)

    DL: Houston(99), Seymour(92), Kelly(93), Sho’nasty(77), J.Moss(94), Bryant(90), J.Henderson(79), Scott(91)

    LB: Wimbley(96), RoMAC(55), Q.Groves(52), Goethel(50), Williams(54), Francis(47), Boyd(40)

    CB: Routt(26), C.Johnson(37), DVD(38), Ware(23), S.Moore(39)

    S: Huff(24), Branch(33), Mitchell(34), S.Brown(27)

    ST: Jano(11), Lechler(9), Condo(59)

    Practice Squad:

    Ausberry(86) TE/WR
    Brodine(95) DE
    Pelc(71) OL
    Chekwa(35) DB
    Gordon(82) TE
    Gbadyu(48) LB
    Cumbie(73) DT
    Ethridge(43) DB
    ***********************

    I think you are probably close. Here’s my exceptions to your list:
    • Ausberry(86) TE/WR on the 53
    • Francis (47) to PS
    • Chekwa(35) DB on the 53
    • Tonga (4) to PS

    *******************************

    Have to keep Tonga….at times Reece can in short yardage or goaline be the HB and Tonga the FB…..its about getting the most out of your team….cutting Tonga would show we dont know how to get the most out of our team yet

  197. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Did Oren Oneal simply fade away after his injury or is he playing somewhere?

    Double “O” seemed like the future until his injury.

    Saunders featured mainly a single back, no?

  198. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    195.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:20 am
    ROG,

    you knows how this works. don’t play dumb. you’re a semi pro for a reason

    how many FB’s did the Raiders keep on the roster last year? one. Reece

    We finished #2 in rushing with a fat receiver like Marcel lead blocking

    why would we waste a spot for Tonga this year when we didn’t last year? Mayonaisse to the practice squad again. If he signs elsewhere? what have we really lost?

    ********************************

    I’m not a semi-pro….I’m one of the soldiers……if Reece gets hurt then what do we have? You cant go and just find any old guy off the street. Tonga is a very good athlete and strong lead blocker. Guys dont wanna go head up vs 5′11 250 lb samoan after them….hell no!

    and Reece stinks at run blocking mayne….he just does. He is a playmaker no doubt but the stout defenses of the league he is a non factor and you know it

  199. YoungAmerican Says:

    Yeah, a surefire way to get the most out of your roster is to carry two fullbacks when your team uses a fullback on 40% of the offensive snaps at most.

  200. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    194.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:20 am
    Yeah sure cut him so if Reece goes down we have who to block for DMAC and Bush? They would be stupid this time to cut Tonga….Reece cant run block for schit and yall know it

    ————

    The Raiders’ #2 ranked run game didn’t seem to suffer much because of Reece’s blocking skills or lack thereof.

    The Raiders aren’t going to carry two fullbacks. Tonga will go on the practice squad.

    **************************

    All i’m saying is dont let him get away….he will open holes and crush defenders….Yall talk this number 2 rushing game stuff but yet I saw games where the run game got punked…..Reece aint a run blocker and never will be

  201. J Hill Says:

    Nicky Miller’s roster spot is pretty secure.

    He’d have to have a couple of fumbled punts and dropped passes to even move to bubble status.

    He’s our 1st team PR right now and will be the backup PR is they give that job to Moore. I think he is also the backup KR guy.

    Next smurf in line to play the slot WR if Ford goes down.

  202. RaiderRetribution Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Ausberry, Meyers, Boss Man are your three TEs.

    barring what will not be mentioned or a trade this will be the case, Hue will want three TDs, as he uses two TE sets for passing plays as well as running plays.

    Taiwan Jones will be the back up PR- Nick & Rankin will play all 4 preseason games in order to protect players and be ready just in case

    Raiders would not be trading Murphy for Hagan we would be trading him for a draft pick in 2012, besides I think the Raiders sure 5 WRs are going to be: Ford, DHB, Moore, Murphy, and Hagan with nick, Chaz, and Bodiford battling for the last spot [plus I still think Chad O. is still in play].

  203. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    199.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:24 am
    Yeah, a surefire way to get the most out of your roster is to carry two fullbacks when your team uses a fullback on 40% of the offensive snaps at most.

    ***************************

    LOL….when you get later on in this aseason when you cant be as cute on offense and in the postseason the hardcore schit comes into play. We gonna need a hammerhead becuz yards wont come as easy

  204. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    201.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:26 am
    Nicky Miller’s roster spot is pretty secure.

    He’d have to have a couple of fumbled punts and dropped passes to even move to bubble status.

    He’s our 1st team PR right now and will be the backup PR is they give that job to Moore. I think he is also the backup KR guy.

    Next smurf in line to play the slot WR if Ford goes down.

    **********************************

    Miller sucks man….6th WR at best lol

  205. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    and the Raiders should have kept two fullbacks last year……one of those WRs didnt belong on the roster….cough….Nicki Miller

  206. MistaBrown Says:

    A jab to the chops of the great tj

    Entertainment for free!

    “Nick Miller the roster spot killer”

  207. YoungAmerican Says:

    All i’m saying is dont let him get away….he will open holes and crush defenders….Yall talk this number 2 rushing game stuff but yet I saw games where the run game got punked…..Reece aint a run blocker and never will be

    ——————

    No team is going to run for 150 yards every single game. Good defenses were able to focus on the run because the Raiders’ offense was one-dimensional. The passing game simply wasn’t a threat. If that hasn’t changed since last season, the Raiders have more problems than deciding whether or not to carry an extra fullback.

  208. BigTed707 Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    ROG,

    you knows how this works. don’t play dumb. you’re a semi pro for a reason

    how many FB’s did the Raiders keep on the roster last year? one. Reece

    We finished #2 in rushing with a fat receiver like Marcel lead blocking

    why would we waste a spot for Tonga this year when we didn’t last year? Mayonaisse to the practice squad again. If he signs elsewhere? what have we really lost?
    *****************
    RRS, you almost have me convinced – switching Ausberry for Tonga on my 53.

    Tonga is PS eligible, and is less likely to get swooped by another team. He would still be available if Reece goes down – and Cartwright could help there too.

    Ausberry had a great TD catch, but I’d like to see more of him in this weekend.

  209. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Reece gets hurt then what do we have? You cant go and just find any old guy off the street.

    ***

    ROG,

    Actually you can.

    Heath Evans, Madison Hedgecock, Tony Richardson & Leonard Weaver are all available!

    any one of those guys would be WAY better than Tonga imo

  210. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Goethel looked really good in the preseason game, leading the defense, attacking running plays, worked sideline to sideline;

    Raiders are solid at starting LB, deep at MLB, but that WLB and overall depth scares the hell outta me, if Tatupu is willing to play OLB, Raiders need to sign him.

  211. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    209.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:30 am
    if Reece gets hurt then what do we have? You cant go and just find any old guy off the street.

    ***

    ROG,

    Actually you can.

    Heath Evans, Madison Hedgecock, Tony Richardson & Leonard Weaver are all available!

    any one of those guys would be WAY better than Tonga imo

    ***********************************

    Haha no them old jokers are not….Tonga is a good athlete with deceptive speed and can hold at POA plus he better catching out of backfield than those guys….NEXT

  212. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    207.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:30 am
    All i’m saying is dont let him get away….he will open holes and crush defenders….Yall talk this number 2 rushing game stuff but yet I saw games where the run game got punked…..Reece aint a run blocker and never will be

    ——————

    No team is going to run for 150 yards every single game. Good defenses were able to focus on the run because the Raiders’ offense was one-dimensional. The passing game simply wasn’t a threat. If that hasn’t changed since last season, the Raiders have more problems than deciding whether or not to carry an extra fullback.

    ***************************

    Totally disagree here……if you cant mash the better defenses then you aitn winning jack schit….yall dont wanna play for the SB but I do….be happy just getting to 10 wins then

  213. inonewordraider Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:29 am
    A jab to the chops of the great tj

    Entertainment for free!

    “Nick Miller the roster spot killer”

    forgot about Taiwan hopefully he could at least snatch punt return duties away from DMoore. And I like Tonga as well although true he prob wouldn’t be signed off practice squad still wondering who our backup LT is if barnes cut, heyer? If Barks then who fills in for him with Barnes gone? And didn’t ppl in here say NMiller was the next Wes Welker?

  214. RaiderRockstar Says:

    didn’t ppl in here say NMiller was the next Wes Welker?

    ***

    LOL!

  215. BigTed707 Says:

    Stephon Heyer as backup LT, or Loper

  216. J Hill Says:

    Can Tonga play STs??

    If not, don’t see how you can rationalize a roster spot when you can just stash him on the practice squad.

    I think we are going to see more single back sets this year anyway.

    2 TEs and 3 WRs.

    Probably even see Reece motioned outta there a lot to create single back sets and him as a mismatch against Safeties and LBs.

  217. lefty12 Says:

    Barnes wo’t get cut-he can play too many positions.If any vet Olineman gets cut it should be Loper.

  218. YoungAmerican Says:

    Totally disagree here……if you cant mash the better defenses then you aitn winning jack schit….yall dont wanna play for the SB but I do….be happy just getting to 10 wins then

    ———-

    We’re talking Superbowl now? Green Bay didn’t “mash” the Steelers defense, but still won that game. Your offense needs to be versatile, or you’re not even going to be a wildcard team. Reece gives the Raiders versatility. If their running game isn’t getting anything done, a marginally better fullback (what has Tonga done, anyway?) isn’t going to be the difference maker.

  219. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    214.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:40 am
    didn’t ppl in here say NMiller was the next Wes Welker?

    ***

    LOL!

    *********************

    Only cuz he is white….their games are nada alike which is a damn shame…miller got blazing speed while welker doesnt

  220. inonewordraider Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:42 am
    Barnes wo’t get cut-he can play too many positions.If any vet Olineman gets cut it should be Loper.

    Yea I think you gotta keep barnes as a backup LT and RT if he’s not gna bit*h and moan about it

  221. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    218.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:42 am
    Totally disagree here……if you cant mash the better defenses then you aitn winning jack schit….yall dont wanna play for the SB but I do….be happy just getting to 10 wins then

    ———-

    We’re talking Superbowl now? Green Bay didn’t “mash” the Steelers defense, but still won that game. Your offense needs to be versatile, or you’re not even going to be a wildcard team. Reece gives the Raiders versatility. If their running game isn’t getting anything done, a marginally better fullback (what has Tonga done, anyway?) isn’t going to be the difference maker.

    ********************

    We play in AFc…not eh JV conference thank you….GB had an all world QB….think about it….do we?

  222. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    versatile? lol how can u be that when you cant smash it against the tougher AFC defenses…..damn right im talking super bowl….not this lets just get a little better soft schit on here

  223. YoungAmerican Says:

    We play in AFc…not eh JV conference thank you….GB had an all world QB….think about it….do we?

    ———–

    Yes, QB play is one of many reasons the Raiders won’t be in the Superbowl this season.

    Carrying an extra fullback on the roster won’t change that.

  224. inonewordraider Says:

    whos’ the backup SLB?

  225. Sullivan44 Says:

    BeAlwaysUrself..

    You think the Raiders are a Super Bowl team?

  226. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Miller is a better receiver and football player than DHB, but, then again, so is every receiver in the UFL. He will stink it up again this year, cost the team some wins, and start next year. DHB is a poor man’s Alvid Whitted…He would be lucky to amount to Doug Gabriel, sorry to associate DHB with you DG.

  227. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Only cuz he is white….their games are nada alike which is a damn shame

    ***

    Exactly

    Nick Miller = Ryan Hoag

  228. BigTed707 Says:

    We’re talking Superbowl now? Green Bay didn’t “mash” the Steelers defense, but still won that game. Your offense needs to be versatile, or you’re not even going to be a wildcard team. Reece gives the Raiders versatility. If their running game isn’t getting anything done, a marginally better fullback (what has Tonga done, anyway?) isn’t going to be the difference maker.

    *************
    You are right YA, Tonga probably won’t make the final 53. I agree with ROG that a true FB could only make the Raiders backfield better, and wouldn’t detract from what they have already established. Not much downside to adding Tonga. He would help in pass and run protection, and has soft hands.

    Ausberry still has to prove he is not a liability in pass protection.

  229. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Based on the schedule and the fact that DHB will be on the field, it appears, 7-9 would be the ceiling. Also no depth in secondary and young OL.

  230. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    and GB won with hella injuries….keyword they had depth….duh

  231. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Miller is a better receiver and football player than DHB, but, then again, so is every receiver in the UFL. He will stink it up again this year, cost the team some wins, and start next year. DHB is a poor man’s Alvid Whitted…He would be lucky to amount to Doug Gabriel, sorry to associate DHB with you DG

    ***

    Ouch!

    89052 needs to be placed on the “Rue the Day” DHB-hater list

  232. Master Beeecham Says:

    Man, last night was AWESOME!

    I ripped on a bunch of blog goobers (including Brian the Genital’s daily whipping), partied serious at the Ritz pool, my after hour DJ set went OFF on my party boat, then double teamed a couple of drunk tanned honies back at the penthouse.

    Now the ladies are picking up Big Wave burgers from Islands and a few 12ers of MGD.

    Anyone seen ol Krappy lurking around the blog lately? I’m sure the old goat has been busy hustling up primo listing for Kane. NOT

  233. J Hill Says:

    Ausberry still has to prove he is not a liability in pass protection.

    —————————————————–

    I think he’ll be out in pass patterns when he’s on the field this season.

    Look for Boss and Meyers to be on the field when we run the ball.

  234. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raiders lack depth at a lot of positions. Another reason they won’t be a Superbowl team this season.

    Again… carrying two fullbacks on the roster won’t change that.

  235. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    YA….thats bs……how you know Tonga isnt key in opening holes vs pitt or bmore in playoffs?

  236. inonewordraider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am
    BeAlwaysUrself..

    You think the Raiders are a Super Bowl team?

    well they swept the chargers and the rest of the afc so we’re good enough to be in the playoffs and once you’re in anything can happen

  237. inonewordraider Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am
    BeAlwaysUrself..

    You think the Raiders are a Super Bowl team?

    well they swept the chargers and the rest of the afc so we’re good enough to be in the playoffs and once you’re in anything can happen

    afc west i mean

  238. Raiderbuck Says:

    If we make it to the playoffs at all, we better count that as a win

  239. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    232.Master Beeecham Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:55 am
    Man, last night was AWESOME!

    I ripped on a bunch of blog goobers (including Brian the Genital’s daily whipping), partied serious at the Ritz pool, my after hour DJ set went OFF on my party boat, then double teamed a couple of drunk tanned honies back at the penthouse.

    Now the ladies are picking up Big Wave burgers from Islands and a few 12ers of MGD.

    Anyone seen ol Krappy lurking around the blog lately? I’m sure the old goat has been busy hustling up primo listing for Kane. NOT

    ************************

    HA here goes the tranny experience again lol

  240. inonewordraider Says:

    August 15th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    We’re talking Superbowl now? Green Bay didn’t “mash” the Steelers defense, but still won that game. Your offense needs to be versatile, or you’re not even going to be a wildcard team. Reece gives the Raiders versatility. If their running game isn’t getting anything done, a marginally better fullback (what has Tonga done, anyway?) isn’t going to be the difference maker.

    *************
    You are right YA, Tonga probably won’t make the final 53. I agree with ROG that a true FB could only make the Raiders backfield better, and wouldn’t detract from what they have already established. Not much downside to adding Tonga. He would help in pass and run protection, and has soft hands.

    Ausberry still has to prove he is not a liability in pass protection.

    they may keep myers or even the better blocking gordon over him but similar to Reece, too big an offensive weapon to keep off the roster if i’m choosin which of course i’m not

  241. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    237.inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
    inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:50 am
    BeAlwaysUrself..

    You think the Raiders are a Super Bowl team?

    well they swept the chargers and the rest of the afc so we’re good enough to be in the playoffs and once you’re in anything can happen

    afc west i mean

    *********************

    Exactly

  242. YoungAmerican Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    YA….thats bs……how you know Tonga isnt key in opening holes vs pitt or bmore in playoffs?

    ————-

    How do you know the Raiders will be facing Pitt and Baltimore in the playoffs?

    I bet a lot of the teams that Baltimore and Pittsburgh beat had great run-blocking fullbacks. The Jets got beaten by Pittsburgh with TWO great run-blocking fullbacks on the roster.

    If you can’t pass the ball and can’t protect your QB, good teams will have no problem shutting down the running game too. One-dimensional offenses don’t survive in the playoffs. Can’t just keep running the ball and expect things to happen.

    The Raiders have already shown they can run. That’s not their problem. They need to be able to pass, and protect Jason Campbell.

  243. YoungAmerican Says:

    Swept the AFC West… 2-8 outside the AFC West.

  244. M Lonetree Says:

    way too many strains, pulls, tears and broken bones (AKA “nicks”) between now and the start of the season four weeks hence to warrant any finalized speculative roster.

  245. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    240.inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:00 am
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    We’re talking Superbowl now? Green Bay didn’t “mash” the Steelers defense, but still won that game. Your offense needs to be versatile, or you’re not even going to be a wildcard team. Reece gives the Raiders versatility. If their running game isn’t getting anything done, a marginally better fullback (what has Tonga done, anyway?) isn’t going to be the difference maker.

    *************
    You are right YA, Tonga probably won’t make the final 53. I agree with ROG that a true FB could only make the Raiders backfield better, and wouldn’t detract from what they have already established. Not much downside to adding Tonga. He would help in pass and run protection, and has soft hands.

    Ausberry still has to prove he is not a liability in pass protection.

    they may keep myers or even the better blocking gordon over him but similar to Reece, too big an offensive weapon to keep off the roster if i’m choosin which of course i’m not

    ************************

    This is exactly what im saying

  246. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    242.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:00 am
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    YA….thats bs……how you know Tonga isnt key in opening holes vs pitt or bmore in playoffs?

    ————-

    How do you know the Raiders will be facing Pitt and Baltimore in the playoffs?

    I bet a lot of the teams that Baltimore and Pittsburgh beat had great run-blocking fullbacks. The Jets got beaten by Pittsburgh with TWO great run-blocking fullbacks on the roster.

    If you can’t pass the ball and can’t protect your QB, good teams will have no problem shutting down the running game too. One-dimensional offenses don’t survive in the playoffs. Can’t just keep running the ball and expect things to happen.

    The Raiders have already shown they can run. That’s not their problem. They need to be able to pass, and protect Jason Campbell.

    ********************

    pitt or bmore ar great examples…perennial afc pwoers thank you and stout defenses

  247. BigTed707 Says:

    Sam Williams has got to go! I don’t want to see him in there at MLB.

  248. BigTed707 Says:

    LB: Wimbley(96), RoMAC(55), Q.Groves(52), Goethel(50), Williams(54), Francis(47), Boyd(40)
    **************
    Who do we have that are better? I think we will miss Thomas Howard this year.

    Sign Capt. Kirk – for depth if nothing else!

  249. 89052RAIDER Says:

    RRS,
    Just dropping knowledge, because we have to face reality. I love the coach, but Al just can’t lose wood for some of the scholarships guys.

  250. J Hill Says:

    Ted,

    Rewatching the 1st qtr of the game.

    Boyd is playing that LB position MM34 plays when we are in a nickel D.

    I wonder if he can beat out MM34.

  251. BigTed707 Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Ted,

    Rewatching the 1st qtr of the game.

    Boyd is playing that LB position MM34 plays when we are in a nickel D.

    I wonder if he can beat out MM34.
    ***********
    I doubt it, MM34 is just nicked.

  252. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Boyd sucks

  253. J Hill Says:

    Barnes is blocking well at RT.

    Realize he was a penalty machine, but his man is getting nowhere near Glo.

  254. YoungAmerican Says:

    pitt or bmore ar great examples…perennial afc pwoers thank you and stout defenses

    ———

    … and they destroyed lesser teams, even team that could “mash” defenses with an established run-blocking fullback.

    A marginal (and FAR from certain) upgrade in the running game at the fullback position will do nothing against the best defenses in the NFL.

    You have to be versatile. Ausberry and Reece give the Raiders options in the passing game, which is where improvement desperately needs to be made. Tonga can easily be stashed on the practice squad.

    Two fullbacks on the roster when the fullback position is used in maybe a third of the offensive snaps? That’s not going to make the Raiders a Superbowl team.

    The Raiders showed last season that they desperately needed to carry three TEs on the roster. Ausberry can fill that 3rd TE role.

    If Tonga is on the roster, he’ll have to prove his worth on special teams as well. Keeping a player on the roster for one or two snaps a game at most when A) the running game isn’t what needs dramatic improvement and B) when it would take a FB off the field who forces defenses to defend the pass as well as the run? Yeah, not great roster management.

  255. inonewordraider Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:08 am
    LB: Wimbley(96), RoMAC(55), Q.Groves(52), Goethel(50), Williams(54), Francis(47), Boyd(40)
    **************
    Who do we have that are better? I think we will miss Thomas Howard this year.

    Sign Capt. Kirk – for depth if nothing else!

    Goethel a good backup MLB but who backs up Wimbley?

  256. lefty12 Says:

    BigTed, backup LBs are ST players due to their size/sped combo.Williams is a very good ST player and that is why he always makes the team.Too often we as fans overlook the value certain players have as ST players.We look at their value as starters only.

  257. r8eray Says:

    DHB will never be a “GREAT” player and be a HOFer!!!

    He might be an average player…but that about it!!

    Don’t think he’ll ever be a #1 or #2 WR on any other team…that’s just the way it is!!

  258. BigTed707 Says:

    Goethel a good backup MLB but who backs up Wimbley?
    *****************
    How did Blacksack(56) look? or Gbad(48)?

    We’ll have to keep an eye on them this weekend.

    If it were up to me, I’d use S.Williams there.

  259. BigTed707 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    BigTed, backup LBs are ST players due to their size/sped combo.Williams is a very good ST player and that is why he always makes the team.Too often we as fans overlook the value certain players have as ST players.We look at their value as starters only.
    ***************
    I agree, I just said i didn’t want to see him as the MLB, and we need depth at the LB position.

  260. 89052RAIDER Says:

    The Las Vegas Locos would waive DHB…

  261. J Hill Says:

    How did Blacksack(56) look?

    —————————————————-

    Funny you should ask.

    The Beanie Wells run just happened that DVD looked bad on. Blackstock was the OLB and got manhandled by Heap to the inside.

  262. BigTed707 Says:

    Will we see Culpepper this weekend?

    I bet he tears up our third stringers if we do.

  263. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    254.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
    pitt or bmore ar great examples…perennial afc pwoers thank you and stout defenses

    ———

    … and they destroyed lesser teams, even team that could “mash” defenses with an established run-blocking fullback.

    A marginal (and FAR from certain) upgrade in the running game at the fullback position will do nothing against the best defenses in the NFL.

    You have to be versatile. Ausberry and Reece give the Raiders options in the passing game, which is where improvement desperately needs to be made. Tonga can easily be stashed on the practice squad.

    Two fullbacks on the roster when the fullback position is used in maybe a third of the offensive snaps? That’s not going to make the Raiders a Superbowl team.

    The Raiders showed last season that they desperately needed to carry three TEs on the roster. Ausberry can fill that 3rd TE role.

    If Tonga is on the roster, he’ll have to prove his worth on special teams as well. Keeping a player on the roster for one or two snaps a game at most when A) the running game isn’t what needs dramatic improvement and B) when it would take a FB off the field who forces defenses to defend the pass as well as the run? Yeah, not great roster management.

    ******************************

    You dont get it YA…you just dont…you are are like one of those in 08 assuming our run game would be tops becuz of 07….wrong way to think

  264. MistaBrown Says:

    9ers giving Daunte Culpepper a workout today.
    lmao dude was washed up 8 years ago!

  265. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    u must always try to improve

  266. lefty12 Says:

    The LB spot that concerns me is the weak side.Can Groves handle it?He didn’t look too bad the other nite,but it was the 1st practice game and usually teams don’t plan to attack weaknesses.

  267. inonewordraider Says:

    89052RAIDER Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:21 am
    The Las Vegas Locos would waive DHB…

    WOW a 2nd round talent!

  268. Sullivan44 Says:

    BeAlwaysUrself and InonewordRaider,

    Let’s get right to the bottom of this.

    What is your guys’ prediction for the 2011 Raiders?

    Won-Loss record, and playoff finish, if applicable.

  269. Thec07 Says:

    253.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
    Barnes is blocking well at RT.

    Realize he was a penalty machine, but his man is getting nowhere near Glo.

    ++++++++++++++

    Help me out mayne…Lionel Ritchie, and even the jehri curl dude on coming to america..Who in the hell is Glo???

  270. BigTed707 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    The LB spot that concerns me is the weak side.Can Groves handle it?He didn’t look too bad the other nite,but it was the 1st practice game and usually teams don’t plan to attack weaknesses.
    ***************
    Capt. Kirk Morrison?

  271. Sullivan44 Says:

    Culpepper was washed up 8 years ago? Meanwhile, Raider fans were screaming for him to replace Josh McCown in 2007. Let’s do the math here…

  272. BigTed707 Says:

    Chris Francis Baby!
    2011/12 – MUP!

  273. YoungAmerican Says:

    You dont get it YA…you just dont…you are are like one of those in 08 assuming our run game would be tops becuz of 07….wrong way to think

    ——————–

    So you’re asserting that the dropoff in ‘08 was because of the fullback position?

    Yeah, sure, I’m the one who doesn’t get it…

  274. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Sullivan44

    9-7 if Hue has control and is allowed to play his players.

    6-10 if AD meddles

  275. BigTed707 Says:

    49ers should sign Jeff Garcia!

  276. lefty12 Says:

    Ted,I wouldn’t oppose that in fact I wonder why it hasn’t been explored,if it hasn’t.Maybe his asking price is still too high.

  277. inonewordraider Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:26 am
    253.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:13 am
    Barnes is blocking well at RT.

    Realize he was a penalty machine, but his man is getting nowhere near Glo.

    ++++++++++++++

    Help me out mayne…Lionel Ritchie, and even the jehri curl dude on coming to america..Who in the hell is Glo???

    SOULGLOW!

  278. lefty12 Says:

    271-some,not all.

  279. BigTed707 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Ted,I wouldn’t oppose that in fact I wonder why it hasn’t been explored,if it hasn’t.Maybe his asking price is still too high.
    ***************
    True, or maybe the coaching staff is higher on Groves than we are.

  280. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    268.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:26 am
    BeAlwaysUrself and InonewordRaider,

    Let’s get right to the bottom of this.

    What is your guys’ prediction for the 2011 Raiders?

    Won-Loss record, and playoff finish, if applicable.

    ********************

    MR…i got 100 you wont show up to a game

  281. inonewordraider Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    Sullivan44

    9-7 if Hue has control and is allowed to play his players.

    6-10 if AD meddles

    I’m very happy with the roster and coaching but damn, our schedule is tough. Two on the road (albeit weak teams but still road games and weak teams play better early in the season) followed by NYJ and Pats Bears at home GB Damn! but hey good teams beat good teams right?

  282. J Hill Says:

    Glo was the family business product dude used to keep his curl tight in coming to america.

  283. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    271.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:28 am
    Culpepper was washed up 8 years ago? Meanwhile, Raider fans were screaming for him to replace Josh McCown in 2007. Let’s do the math here…

    *******************

    McCown has never showed talent u dummy

  284. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    274.Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    Sullivan44

    9-7 if Hue has control and is allowed to play his players.

    6-10 if AD meddles

    **********************

    16-0 if al meddles

  285. BigTed707 Says:

    Who’s gonna’ get to Kaepernick this weekend? Somebody on our defense needs to give him a very special welcome to the NFL!

  286. J Hill Says:

    Might be hard for Barksdale to start at RT. Barnes is blocking his arsse off.

    Heyer is bullying the shhhh outta his man as a LG.

  287. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    2011 Raiders: 9-7

  288. Sullivan44 Says:

    OK, BeAlwaysUrself.

    You went from talking Super Bowl to making no prediction whatsoever. That only tells me you were never serious about the Raiders being a Super Bowl team. Do you think that if you just talk enough about the Raiders being a Super Bowl team, that people will believe they’re better? It’s clear as day that you don’t believe it yourself for one second.

  289. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am
    Glo was the family business product dude used to keep his curl tight in coming to america.
    ————
    It was Soul Glo.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-aqJ0Qggkg

  290. inonewordraider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:36 am
    Might be hard for Barksdale to start at RT. Barnes is blocking his arsse off.

    Heyer is bullying the shhhh outta his man as a LG.

    So are your starting 5 veld Heyer Sam Wiz and Barnes?

  291. lefty12 Says:

    J Hill-hasn’t Barnes problem always been that he commits too many penalties?That will probably be the reason Barksdale eventually wins that spot-if he does.

  292. inonewordraider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:38 am
    OK, BeAlwaysUrself.

    You went from talking Super Bowl to making no prediction whatsoever. That only tells me you were never serious about the Raiders being a Super Bowl team. Do you think that if you just talk enough about the Raiders being a Super Bowl team, that people will believe they’re better? It’s clear as day that you don’t believe it yourself for one second.

    he just said 16-0

  293. Sullivan44 Says:

    InonewordRaider,

    Did we get a prediction from you? Did I miss it? So far the only people I’ve seen answer were two people
    I didn’t ask. BeAlwaysUrself is out. He’s making no prediction…and it’s because he really doesn’t believe in the team. He doesn’t want to put his credibility on the line. So he’ll just talk Super Bowl possibilities…but when asked to make a prediction, he’s mute. What’s your prediction, InonewordRaider. Or were you too just fantasizing about a Raider Super Bowl, when you know you really don’t believe it for one second?

  294. BigTed707 Says:

    Barnes, Loper, B-Camp, Shuening, Heyer, Cooper

    Who stays? Who gets cut?

  295. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Barnes sucks Jhill

  296. Silverandblack666 Says:

    B@uce says we win all of our games.

    I like the optimism!

  297. Sullivan44 Says:

    InoneWordRaider and BeAlwaysUrself are talking Super Bowl, guys. But beware. They don’t truly believe it. I asked them for an honest prediction. They’re both not going to answer. So, just keep that in mind when they talk Super Bowl. They don’t believe it for one second. They KNOW the Raiders aren’t a Super Bowl team.

  298. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    288.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:38 am
    OK, BeAlwaysUrself.

    You went from talking Super Bowl to making no prediction whatsoever. That only tells me you were never serious about the Raiders being a Super Bowl team. Do you think that if you just talk enough about the Raiders being a Super Bowl team, that people will believe they’re better? It’s clear as day that you don’t believe it yourself for one second.
    *******************************

    MR….show up to a game

  299. inonewordraider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:40 am
    InonewordRaider,

    Did we get a prediction from you? Did I miss it? So far the only people I’ve seen answer were two people
    I didn’t ask. BeAlwaysUrself is out. He’s making no prediction…and it’s because he really doesn’t believe in the team. He doesn’t want to put his credibility on the line. So he’ll just talk Super Bowl possibilities…but when asked to make a prediction, he’s mute. What’s your prediction, InonewordRaider. Or were you too just fantasizing about a Raider Super Bowl, when you know you really don’t believe it for one second?

    i really don’t have to predict cuz you want me to predict but what the hell, 10 and 6 win the division beat the Pats in the AFC title game and beat the Falcons in the Superbowl

  300. lefty12 Says:

    Ted,due to his contract,if Wiz,Heyer and B.Campbell can fill the void,I believe Loper will be one of those cut.

  301. Sullivan44 Says:

    BeAlwaysUrself, I don’t go to games. Not as long as Al Davis is general manager. Us fans have to do something. And sine Al won’t take any message from the fans seriously, all we can do is hit his pocket book. No way. No how. I’ll buy season tickets as soon as Al is no longer involved with football operations.

  302. J Hill Says:

    Isn’t Barnes problem always been that he commits too many penalties?

    —————————————————–

    I thought that was Langston Walker?

  303. Sullivan44 Says:

    InonewordRaider,

    Have you ever seriously weighed our starters against New England’s? Campbell over Brady? That’s what you’re saying?

  304. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    10-6 DIV. CHAMPS. NO PRECICTION ON PLAYOFFS.WILL C WHO’S HEALTHY..

  305. BigTed707 Says:

    MR – I know you didn’t ask me – but imo, it is too early for season predictions.

    The Raiders have both strengths and weaknesses – You seem to only care about the weaknesses.

    I just hope they win on the road in week one, and see where it goes from there.

    Go Raiders (1-0)!

  306. lefty12 Says:

    Him too.lol

  307. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    297.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    InoneWordRaider and BeAlwaysUrself are talking Super Bowl, guys. But beware. They don’t truly believe it. I asked them for an honest prediction. They’re both not going to answer. So, just keep that in mind when they talk Super Bowl. They don’t believe it for one second. They KNOW the Raiders aren’t a Super Bowl team.

    ************************

    MR is embarrassing lol

  308. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    301.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:46 am
    BeAlwaysUrself, I don’t go to games. Not as long as Al Davis is general manager. Us fans have to do something. And sine Al won’t take any message from the fans seriously, all we can do is hit his pocket book. No way. No how. I’ll buy season tickets as soon as Al is no longer involved with football operations.

    *************************

    MR you’re a coward

  309. Sullivan44 Says:

    BigTed, you got it right. I wasn’t asking you.

  310. Sullivan44 Says:

    No, BeAlwaysUrself, I just prefer to spend my money wisely. Al Davis doesn’t deserve my money. He doesn’t deserve anyone’s money right now, but I can only control myself.

  311. KoolKell Says:

    Pre-snap penalties have been a Raider problem for yeeaarsss and yeaaars.

  312. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    I don’t see how you could possibly say that Carlisle was the best OL on the field this past game.

    Satele had several one on one matchups with the DT and handled that task with ease.

    Heyer was literally moving folks off the line and finishing to the groung as a LG with the ones.

    Barnes’ blocking was outstanding.

    Veldheer’s man wasn’t heard from all night.

    66 could have arguably been the worst OL that night. And that isn’t a negative on him as I thought he played well too.

  313. inonewordraider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:47 am
    InonewordRaider,

    Have you ever seriously weighed our starters against New England’s? Campbell over Brady? That’s what you’re saying?

    our running game is much better and our receivers will have a breakout year with Campbell much improved, Ocho and Welkers best days our behind them and they’re injury prone and the TE from Florida is a liality blocking not to mention we’ll have a better d this year and better special teams

  314. Sullivan44 Says:

    Kell, Jerry McDonald was on Chronicle Live the other day talking about the pre-snap penalties, and making fun of the Davis homers who think it’s a league conspiracy. lol. He had to politely explain to them that the league has no control over the Raiders inability to wait until the ball is snapped.

  315. lefty12 Says:

    I’m not talking just with the Raiders.Wasn’t one of the reasons he wasn’t wanted in Jacksonville was his penchant for drawing penalties-usually false starts?

  316. Sullivan44 Says:

    Inonewordraider,

    Brady or Campbell. Who’s better?

  317. plataynegro Says:

    The NFL is a revenue sharing league, hence the long lock-out! You are not hurting Al by not going, but may put someone else out of a job! Why have extra vendors if no-one is at the game?

  318. plataynegro Says:

    Wow MR, so in your opinion M.Sanchez is better than Brady and Manning cause the Jets beat them both last year?

  319. J Hill Says:

    I’m feeling pretty good about my prediction that the Oline will be the MVP of the team this season.

    Veldheer-Heyer-Satele-Wiz-Barnes

    Barksdale, Cooper, Campbell, Loper as depth.

  320. Sullivan44 Says:

    plataynegro, nonsense. The Raiders spend millions advertising game tickets because it makes no difference to them whether or not people go to games? Listen to yourself.

  321. KoolKell Says:

    Brian Stow laying up in a hospital bed, life ruined, because some hoodlum “true fans” kicked his head in at a ballgame. AND, this blog puts up with Brien Bootlicker threatening people to show up at games. Sickening.

    Brien Bootlicker, you’re a disgusting piece of schit.

  322. BigTed707 Says:

    Lefty – Barnes over Loper?
    I know it’s too early to cut Barnes, but three penalties in a row is not a good way to win a roster spot.

    Loper’s contract shows you what the Org thinks of him, and is why I don’t see him being cut. He is listed as the #1 LG on the unofficial depth. – He’d be a backup for sure!

  323. J Hill Says:

    I have no idea Lefty.

  324. ohioraider Says:

    Sad to say, I smell a 7-9 season coming up. And the reasons are not hard to fathom:
    – Inexperienced offensive line
    – Continued issues with run defense (apparently, Al is hoping this problem just goes away by itself since he never addressed it during the off season).
    –Marginal receiver corp
    –Spotty play in the secondary
    –Janikowski costs us at least one game

    I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see a realistic run at even a wild card.

  325. Sullivan44 Says:

    And, if you’re right, plataynegro (which you’re not..but just playing along), then yes, I’ll punish all of the owners for them not doing something about Al. One way or another, I’m boycotting whoever is responsible for Al Davis being the GM of the Raiders. So far, Al Davis himself is the best culprit I can see. He won’t get a dime from me. Not a dime.

  326. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    310.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:49 am
    No, BeAlwaysUrself, I just prefer to spend my money wisely. Al Davis doesn’t deserve my money. He doesn’t deserve anyone’s money right now, but I can only control myself.

    **************************

    Coward

  327. lefty12 Says:

    J Hill,I believe the coaching staff thinks much more of Cooper than you do.He will be the starter at RG.Wiz at LG,Heyer backup LT,LG.

  328. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Hue Jackson has the same problems every other Raiders HC has had to deal with.

    Too many penalties and giving up big plays on defense….especially on 3rd and long.

    How he deals with these issues will be how they mark his legacy here as a HC.

  329. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    321.KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Brian Stow laying up in a hospital bed, life ruined, because some hoodlum “true fans” kicked his head in at a ballgame. AND, this blog puts up with Brien Bootlicker threatening people to show up at games. Sickening.

    Brien Bootlicker, you’re a disgusting piece of schit.

    *****************************

    I asked you to show up any place and you wont

  330. raidertalk Says:

    Interesting reads on D Moore and a good read on Trent Edwards by Jmac.

    This is the most interesting squad we have had in a while and the deepest, ON PAPER, we have had since the Superbowl year.

    We also seem to have some competent coaches out there: Hue Jax, Wisnewski, R Woodson, Biekert, Saunders.

  331. J Hill Says:

    Nick Miller doesn’t seem fast at all.

    4.4 my arsse!

  332. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:46 am
    BeAlwaysUrself, I don’t go to games. Not as long as Al Davis is general manager. Us fans have to do something. And sine Al won’t take any message from the fans seriously, all we can do is hit his pocket book. No way. No how. I’ll buy season tickets as soon as Al is no longer involved with football opertion
    _________________________________

    People who say this are not true fans. Part of being a fan is putting up money. $$$$$$$$$$$$

  333. inonewordraider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am
    Inonewordraider,

    Brady or Campbell. Who’s better?

    Brady of course man Brady’s a HOF but a team wins the game Moss>Ocho I don’t see how the Pats have improved and they couldn’t get past NYJ last year

  334. Sullivan44 Says:

    Nope, not a Coward, BeAlwaysUrself. And frankly I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make by calling me one. Just why are you inviting me to games, anyway? Do you plan on assaulting me? Do you frequently assault people at Raider games? If so, you’re going to be in prison soon, anyway. But I can tell you this much, I won’t be at a Raider game until Al Davis is out, period. And you won’t be able to find me by looking for the Raider hater. Because as soon as Al’s gone, I’ll be there decked out in Raider gear.

  335. Silverandblack666 Says:

    327 good post I agree that the coaching staff is set on Cooper starting at RG

  336. Sullivan44 Says:

    InonewordRaider,

    How much better do you believe Brady is than Campbell? Let’s rate them on a scale of 1 to 10.

    Brady is a what, and Campbell is a what?

  337. plataynegro Says:

    Ohio- He did draft McClain who is getting better everyday, and a healthy Henderson could help a lot. I’m not saying we should be content with just this, but he is doing something and hoping it works.

  338. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    325.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    And, if you’re right, plataynegro (which you’re not..but just playing along), then yes, I’ll punish all of the owners for them not doing something about Al. One way or another, I’m boycotting whoever is responsible for Al Davis being the GM of the Raiders. So far, Al Davis himself is the best culprit I can see. He won’t get a dime from me. Not a dime.

    *********************

    I’ll sponsor your trip

  339. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Pre-snap penalties have been a Raider problem for yeeaarsss and yeaaars.
    _________________________

    It doenst matter if a lineman can block when he gives up 5yrds before the play even starts.

  340. ohioraider Says:

    The truest and best fans are the ones who love the team and are sickened by what Davis has done to it. We want to succeed and don’t believe anything changes until the Old Creeper is gone. Some of you dipchits will never get this. That’s your problem.

  341. raidertalk Says:

    I really won’t be able to know how good Hue JAx is as a head coach until after the Denver on Monday night.

    But he seems to be very clear in his communication and seems to be very energetic about his craft.

    Compared to Cable he seems to be more present. Cable appeared lost sometimes and unable to express himself.

    At least our offense improved under Hue Jax

  342. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    334.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    Nope, not a Coward, BeAlwaysUrself. And frankly I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make by calling me one. Just why are you inviting me to games, anyway? Do you plan on assaulting me? Do you frequently assault people at Raider games? If so, you’re going to be in prison soon, anyway. But I can tell you this much, I won’t be at a Raider game until Al Davis is out, period. And you won’t be able to find me by looking for the Raider hater. Because as soon as Al’s gone, I’ll be there decked out in Raider gear.

    *************************************

    MR…..i just wanna see you talk smack in front of live faces and not the computer screen lol

  343. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    340.ohioraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    The truest and best fans are the ones who love the team and are sickened by what Davis has done to it. We want to succeed and don’t believe anything changes until the Old Creeper is gone. Some of you dipchits will never get this. That’s your problem.

    ***********************

    B@uce not a fan

  344. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    340.ohioraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    The truest and best fans are the ones who love the team and are sickened by what Davis has done to it. We want to succeed and don’t believe anything changes until the Old Creeper is gone. Some of you dipchits will never get this. That’s your problem.

    *********************

    then dont post or follow team until Al is gone……thanks

  345. ohioraider Says:

    Up yours. I’ve been a fan since you were nothing but cosmic dust.

  346. KoolKell Says:

    MR…..i just wanna see you talk smack in front of live faces and not the computer screen lol
    ——————————–
    You aint nothing but a punk. stfu ok? You aint proving schit.

    Talk football.

  347. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Ohio- He did draft McClain who is getting better everyday, and a healthy Henderson could help a lot. I’m not saying we should be content with just this, but he is doing something and hoping it works.
    _________________________

    Did you see the goaline stand by our 2nd stringers? A huge part of that was Henderson.

  348. J Hill Says:

    Loper didn’t get much run at all.

    Heyer was in at LG on the 2nd drive of the game running with the ones into the 2nd qtr.

  349. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    340.ohioraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    The truest and best fans are the ones who love the team and are sickened by what Davis has done to it. We want to succeed and don’t believe anything changes until the Old Creeper is gone. Some of you dipchits will never get this. That’s your problem.
    _________________________________

    Sooooooooo what happens if the team succeeds? Does Al still need to go?

  350. plataynegro Says:

    Are some of your lives so miserable you have to come here and complain about how this team is run? If you don’t like it, don’t follow them. Every team makes mistakes. If Haynesworth or Ocho don’t work out in NE the media will just say ” Oh well, it was worth the gamble for a genius like Belichek” but if it is Al then its all about how he is reaching and out of touch.

    Give me a break! There are 31 other teams in the NFL if you don’t like this one then get the F@ck outta here!

  351. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    I really won’t be able to know how good Hue JAx is as a head coach until after the Denver on Monday night.

    ******************

    Fair assessment

  352. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    I mean every one of the Al haters says they wont support team no matter how well they do because of Al. Does this make any sense? I mean whatever happened to winning being the most important thing? Doesn’t a full stadium help our team.

  353. Sullivan44 Says:

    Whhhaaaat????

    Talk smack to peoples faces? Who’s talking smack? I don’t talk smack, I debate and argue like an adult. If I talk smack about anybody it’s public figures. I’ve always believed they’re fair game. Just as our privacy laws don’t protect them in the public domain. As far as people in here, I’m not talking smack to anyone. I’ve never threatened anyone. I’m merely engaging discussion about the Raiders and sometimes other topics. Mostly the Raiders. You’re the only one threatening people. You’re the only one who has something to prove, not me.

  354. KoolKell Says:

    Plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    Are some of your lives so miserable you have to come here and complain about how this team is run? If you don’t like it, don’t follow them. Every team makes mistakes. If Haynesworth or Ocho don’t work out in NE the media will just say ” Oh well, it was worth the gamble for a genius like Belichek” but if it is Al then its all about how he is reaching and out of touch.

    Give me a break! There are 31 other teams in the NFL if you don’t like this one then get the F@ck outta here!
    —————————————-
    You can shake your pom-poms and call Code Black all you want, ok?.

  355. MistaBrown Says:

    The conspiracy theories dont come from pre-snap calls we are talking about the phantom PI calls, tuck game, etc etc. Meanwhile our WR’s get mauled regular and no whistle on the other team.

    Derelict
    _______

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Kell, Jerry McDonald was on Chronicle Live the other day talking about the pre-snap penalties, and making fun of the Davis homers who think it’s a league conspiracy. lol. He had to politely explain to them that the league has no control over the Raiders inability to wait until the ball is snapped.

  356. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Sooooooooo what happens if the team succeeds? Does Al still need to go?”

    Have you seen our record over the last 8 years?

  357. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    346.KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    MR…..i just wanna see you talk smack in front of live faces and not the computer screen lol
    ——————————–
    You aint nothing but a punk. stfu ok? You aint proving schit.

    Talk football.

    *******************************

    LOL i proved both of yall are liars on many occassions

  358. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I see the starting OLine as:

    Vehldeer LT- [lock]
    Wisniewski LG- 67% {if not LG then definately RG)
    Satele C- 90%
    Loper RG- 50% (definately one of the vets Loper, Carlisle, Heyer at RG/LG question is simply which one)
    Barksdale RT – 75%

  359. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    Are some of your lives so miserable you have to come here and complain about how this team is run? If you don’t like it, don’t follow them. Every team makes mistakes. If Haynesworth or Ocho don’t work out in NE the media will just say ” Oh well, it was worth the gamble for a genius like Belichek” but if it is Al then its all about how he is reaching and out of touch.

    Give me a break! There are 31 other teams in the NFL if you don’t like this one then get the F@ck outta here!
    __________________________________

    4 real. Paying to go to a stadium isnt about Al (collective bargaining) its about supporting your team and watching them directly woop some @ss.

  360. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    353.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    Whhhaaaat????

    Talk smack to peoples faces? Who’s talking smack? I don’t talk smack, I debate and argue like an adult. If I talk smack about anybody it’s public figures. I’ve always believed they’re fair game. Just as our privacy laws don’t protect them in the public domain. As far as people in here, I’m not talking smack to anyone. I’ve never threatened anyone. I’m merely engaging discussion about the Raiders and sometimes other topics. Mostly the Raiders. You’re the only one threatening people. You’re the only one who has something to prove, not me.

    ******************

    A lying coward to boot lol

  361. plataynegro Says:

    MR- I admit you don’t attack anyone in here on a personal level, but to say you do it like an adult is absurd! Remember the whole “Who are the 3 great players” deal that you wouldn’t let go of? Over and over again like a 6 year old kid in the backseat on a road trip with neverending “are we there yets”

  362. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Brown……Neil Peart is GOD!

  363. J Hill Says:

    327.lefty12 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    J Hill,I believe the coaching staff thinks much more of Cooper than you do.He will be the starter at RG.Wiz at LG,Heyer backup LT,LG.

    ——————————————————-

    I thought Cooper played well.

    Heyer stood out though, Lefty and got the attention of the coaches enough to be mentioned post game.

    I mean, STOOD OUT, Lefty. Pushing guys backwards on a constant. Took B’s boy Calais Campbell and drove him up and backwards 4 yds or so into a straight pancake.

    We’ll see how it goes. I think it’s a good problem.

  364. MistaBrown Says:

    Did you know this before I told you last week ?
    _______

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Brown……Neil Peart is GOD!

  365. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    “Sooooooooo what happens if the team succeeds? Does Al still need to go?”

    Have you seen our record over the last 8 years?
    ____________________________________

    Yes. Now answer my question. What success is needed for YOU to support the team? Don’t waste your and my time responding until you have an answer.

  366. RaiderRetribution Says:

    between the two back up QBs, Mr. Boller & Mr. Edwards which has the most trade value?

    if we can get a 4th to a 7th round draft choice out of either one, do we pull the trigger on the trade?

  367. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    363.J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    327.lefty12 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    J Hill,I believe the coaching staff thinks much more of Cooper than you do.He will be the starter at RG.Wiz at LG,Heyer backup LT,LG.

    ——————————————————-

    I thought Cooper played well.

    Heyer stood out though, Lefty and got the attention of the coaches enough to be mentioned post game.

    I mean, STOOD OUT, Lefty. Pushing guys backwards on a constant. Took B’s boy Calais Campbell and drove him up and backwards 4 yds or so into a straight pancake.

    We’ll see how it goes. I think it’s a good problem.

    **********************

    Calais is a good player and he did push him back

  368. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    361.plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    MR- I admit you don’t attack anyone in here on a personal level, but to say you do it like an adult is absurd! Remember the whole “Who are the 3 great players” deal that you wouldn’t let go of? Over and over again like a 6 year old kid in the backseat on a road trip with neverending “are we there yets”

    ********************************

    Hahahahaha MR has done that many of times…..please go back to the archives my friend

  369. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    But really.

    What level of success will get you “Fans” to purchase a Raider ticket?

  370. MistaBrown Says:

    MR & KK are both deranged lunatics.

    The end

  371. HueKnows Says:

    Rock should be the gunner.

  372. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    361.plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    MR- I admit you don’t attack anyone in here on a personal level, but to say you do it like an adult is absurd! Remember the whole “Who are the 3 great players” deal that you wouldn’t let go of? Over and over again like a 6 year old kid in the backseat on a road trip with neverending “are we there yets”

    *******************

    Also you noticed he stopped after someone put Al’s exact quote? LOL

  373. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    between the two back up QBs, Mr. Boller & Mr. Edwards which has the most trade value?

    if we can get a 4th to a 7th round draft choice out of either one, do we pull the trigger on the trade?
    ____________________________________

    Oh God yes, but who would do this trade except for 9ers?

  374. RaiderRetribution Says:

    other teams in really really bad qb situations:

    Miami
    San Francisco
    Washington

    an injury away from being as bad if not worse:

    Chicago
    Buffalo

  375. J Hill Says:

    Still getting the Al sucks as a GM comments sprinkled in.

    Really not giving him credit for the last 2 drafts and the coaching staff he has in place this year?

    REALLY ????????

    Somoe of you are stuck in the past like Hue’s choker.

  376. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “What success is needed for YOU to support the team?”

    I was at the game on Thursday and I will be at every game this year like last year so I am not sure what you are asking me?

  377. plataynegro Says:

    366- I doubt we could get a 6-pack of O’doules for either one. They don’t exactly have a reputation of being good players. When Lee Evans goes for a 4th, you aint gettin much for Trent Edwards.

  378. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Gunner should be 34mm.

  379. Silverandblack666 Says:

    MistsBrown

    I would say that in 1980 I figured out that Neil was God.

    How long have you been worshiping Neil?

  380. lefty12 Says:

    J Hill,if Heyer starts at RG,which he did look good at the other night,then Wiz probably wouldn’t start-at least to start the season.As you say,it is a nice problem to have.

  381. plataynegro Says:

    Yeah that was me who put the quote up

  382. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I expect a 7th or 6th at best for either one.

  383. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    “What success is needed for YOU to support the team?”

    I was at the game on Thursday and I will be at every game this year like last year so I am not sure what you are asking me?
    ______________________________

    Excellent!!! Now we just need 30,000 more. One blogger at a time.

  384. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’ve found that the only way to punish Al is through his pocket book. And, I know I’m not alone. Did you see how empty that stadium was? I have to say, and I say this as a Raider fan, it is awesome to see empty seats. Because I am boycotting Al Davis. I don’t root for the Raiders to lose. But empty seats? That’s a pleasure. A pure pleasure. Means the message is getting out there. Job well done, Raider fans. Keep it up. Don’t give your money to this man. Let him walk out of his crypt, into his owners’ box, and see nothing but a seat of empty green seats every sunday like he saw last thurs.

  385. inonewordraider Says:

    this year brady a 10 Campbell a 7.5

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    InonewordRaider,

    How much better do you believe Brady is than Campbell? Let’s rate them on a scale of 1 to 10.

    Brady is a what, and Campbell is a what?

  386. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    Gunner should be 34mm.
    ___________________________

    This dude already does a great job on kick-offs. He’ll get down for pretty much every Lechler punt.

  387. J Hill Says:

    Heyer played LG, Gallery’s old spot, the other night.

    My issue with this is all the Wiz talk coming from Hue. If he is exceeding expectations, is “unbelievable”, “we drafted the right guy, and all this other good commentary, he should start at C.

    I don’t understand us moving him to LG, a position he hasn’t played before. He played RG his senior year in college, so that’s the spot he should play if he doesn’t start at C.

    But of course we have him practicing at LG, and Heyer coming in at LG, so who knows how this is going to shake out.

  388. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Lefty & Hill, it is awesome to see the Raiders so deep on the OLine. We are debating about who we actually want to start on the OLine, rather than who we do not want to start or even be on the roster.

    I could see us having 10 on the 53-man roster.

  389. Thec07 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:33 am
    Glo was the family business product dude used to keep his curl tight in coming to america.
    ++++++++++

    ROFLMAO…..

  390. bcz24 Says:

    plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    MR- I admit you don’t attack anyone in here on a personal level, but to say you do it like an adult is absurd!
    ********************
    MR attacks people on a personal level all the time dude.

    The trolls are out in full effect today, see you guys in the morning.

  391. lefty12 Says:

    Why would we want to trade either of our backup QBs?You need 3.We are better off than most teams depth wise.Why give up a strength?

  392. Sullivan44 Says:

    Campbell a 7.5? Campbell had to be benched last year, InonewordRaider. Think 7.5 might be a little high?

  393. Thec07 Says:

    This dude already does a great job on kick-offs. He’ll get down for pretty much every Lechler punt.

    +++++++++

    The new KO rule of kicking from the 35 will negate having the need for a gunner. Seabass will be kicking them thru the up rights…

  394. Thec07 Says:

    Ltr Bcz24…

  395. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    I’ve found that the only way to punish Al is through his pocket book. And, I know I’m not alone. Did you see how empty that stadium was? I have to say, and I say this as a Raider fan, it is awesome to see empty seats. Because I am boycotting Al Davis. I don’t root for the Raiders to lose. But empty seats? That’s a pleasure. A pure pleasure. Means the message is getting out there. Job well done, Raider fans. Keep it up. Don’t give your money to this man. Let him walk out of his crypt, into his owners’ box, and see nothing but a seat of empty green seats every sunday like he saw last thurs.
    _______________________________

    Does anyone know what REVENUE SHARING means? We’re hurting other owners more than we’re hurting Al. And I guarantee empty seats hurts our team.

  396. plataynegro Says:

    390.bcz24 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    plataynegro Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    MR- I admit you don’t attack anyone in here on a personal level, but to say you do it like an adult is absurd!
    ********************
    MR attacks people on a personal level all the time dude.

    The trolls are out in full effect today, see you guys in the morning.

    =====================================================

    I guess I never paid close attention to his rhetoric. I have seen enough to think he still isn’t even a teenager!

  397. KoolKell Says:

    The Local population can’t stand Al Davis, get it? Irregardless of what these blog mouthpieces say.

    Ask 10 people in the Bay Area their opinion of Al Davis and 8 will make ugly faces. Get it?

    That has to change before they start selling out for mediocre product.

  398. big pep Says:

    i wish hue would do a better job at keeping his love affair with moore a little more quite. as a person who lives in tenn (but not a vol fan) i keep hearing about how good he was after there q.b. situation got better. also that he can run and catch all the jumping,diving,keep your toes in bound type plays but when you need him the most to make a Basic catch he tends to loose his concentration and drops balls. i dont know how true this is. that said i hope hes the steal of the draft at the end of the season. just keep him on the down low till games really matter. then unleash hell on them. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

  399. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I think the reason they may not want Wiz at RG, could be that in the high probability that Barksdale wins the RT position, with Wiz proving he needs to start somewhere, the Raiders may not want two rookies starting side by side.

  400. Thec07 Says:

    But of course we have him practicing at LG, and Heyer coming in at LG, so who knows how this is going to shake out.

    +++++++++

    Agrred as this is a good problem to have, imo…
    we are now taling about who should start, and where…
    we finally have decent depth in the trench…

  401. Sullivan44 Says:

    Like I said earlier, raiderreign, if we have to hurt other owners to get rid of Al, so be it. That will only instill an urgency in them to get rid of him. And they just might be able to do it. God willing. But of course I think you’re confused as to how much teams do profit or lose off of ticket sales. You want us to believe the Raiders have no stake in the outcome of ticket sales when they spend millions in advertising of ticket sales each year? That is laughable.

  402. Thec07 Says:

    Winning cures all that ails…The team starts a winning tradition and the fans will come, no matter who the owner is…

  403. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    This dude already does a great job on kick-offs. He’ll get down for pretty much every Lechler punt.

    +++++++++

    The new KO rule of kicking from the 35 will negate having the need for a gunner. Seabass will be kicking them thru the up rights…
    __________________

    Yeah. I’m feeling we should put the over/under on touchbacks at 30 for the season.

  404. plataynegro Says:

    399 excellent point, I think we should be trying Satele at LG and leave Wiz at C. Then you have Cooper in between two Rookies and a solid vet on the other side!

  405. Sullivan44 Says:

    The problem is, Thec, we have an owner that won’t let us win. We win with Gruden, Al gets rid of him. We finally hit .500 last year, Al dismantles the team! That’s why there’s boycotts of Al Davis, both silent and public.

  406. RaiderRetribution Says:

    still need the gunner on punts, which Mr. Eugene did really well, plus he was in the punter’s face a few times on returns

    with Mr. Janokowski’s leg, I could see the Raider’s practicing high KOs trying to pin them at the 5-10 yard line

    as return men will not be able to just let the ball bounce on the ground, should we recover it is our ball.

  407. Sullivan44 Says:

    And the silent boycott of Al Davis is the biggest. Most Raiders fans simply will not spend a dime on the team until Al is gone. I’m proud to be one of them.

  408. RaiderRetribution Says:

    40 – Raiders will be scoring multiple touchdowns

  409. Dakota Says:

    Bills release LB Aaron Maybin…..now he was a BUST!

  410. MistaBrown Says:

    1982
    _______

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    MistsBrown

    I would say that in 1980 I figured out that Neil was God.

    How long have you been worshiping Neil?

  411. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m feeling pretty good about my prediction that the Oline will be the MVP of the team this season.

    ***

    Jhill,

    outside of Darnell Dockett, the Cards front seven on Defense is pathetic!

    don’t read too much into the Raiders O-Line based upon one Preseason game – especially against the redbirds

  412. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    The 9er game should tell our team a lot about itself because the 9ers know our team better than any other preseason team. I hope we allow our starter to get to about 3/4 of the way through the first so we can see how it all works out.

  413. Silverandblack666 Says:

    You both have great points.

    You are correct that with revenue sharing our lack of attendance at games will hurt the entire league not just the Raiders.

    The other guy is right in that a lot of people hate Al Davis and stay away from the coliseum because of that.

    One more thing to consider is if we were to get a new stadium here in Santa Clara and we did share it with the 9ers I would bet the stadium would be fuller and not as empty as it is now.

  414. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clown, the gen population hates the job pres purp lips is doing, doesn’t stop you from being a bootlicking derelict now does it?
    __________

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    The Local population can’t stand Al Davis, get it?

  415. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    And the silent boycott of Al Davis is the biggest. Most Raiders fans simply will not spend a dime on the team until Al is gone. I’m proud to be one of them.
    _________________________

    What if they go to the playoffs? Still boycotting?

  416. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Brown….. other great drummers:

    Ginger Baker

    Keith Moon

    John Bonham

    Who else has influenced you? I am guessing you play drums?

  417. J Hill Says:

    Irregardless

    ——————————————————

    Not a word.

    Regardless means whether or not.

    No need for the “Ir”.

  418. MistaBrown Says:

    The Colts without Manning are the Bills, 49ers, and Lions.

    Raider fans can feel good about that!

  419. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    One more thing to consider is if we were to get a new stadium here in Santa Clara and we did share it with the 9ers I would bet the stadium would be fuller and not as empty as it is now.
    __________________________________

    This is very true. A new stadium would go a long way in increasing fan numbers.

  420. Sullivan44 Says:

    Most of us don’t believe Al would let the Raiders go to the playoffs, raiderreign. That’s the point. Al finds a way to lose. Even if the team looks good early on, Al will find a way to lose when it counts. The Raiders haven’t been to the playoffs in almost a decade. So I don’t think we’re the ones going out on a limb with our logic.

  421. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    I’m feeling pretty good about my prediction that the Oline will be the MVP of the team this season.

    ***

    Jhill,

    outside of Darnell Dockett, the Cards front seven on Defense is pathetic!

    don’t read too much into the Raiders O-Line based upon one Preseason game – especially against the redbirds
    ________________________

    Are there any teams this preseason that really test our O-line?

  422. MistaBrown Says:

    I dont play drums only Peart has made an impact on me.

    FYI…guys named Ginger dont bend me in any direction.
    _____

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Brown….. other great drummers:

    Ginger Baker

    Keith Moon

    John Bonham

    Who else has influenced you? I am guessing you play drums?

  423. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    384.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    I’ve found that the only way to punish Al is through his pocket book. And, I know I’m not alone. Did you see how empty that stadium was? I have to say, and I say this as a Raider fan, it is awesome to see empty seats. Because I am boycotting Al Davis. I don’t root for the Raiders to lose. But empty seats? That’s a pleasure. A pure pleasure. Means the message is getting out there. Job well done, Raider fans. Keep it up. Don’t give your money to this man. Let him walk out of his crypt, into his owners’ box, and see nothing but a seat of empty green seats every sunday like he saw last thurs.

    *******************************

    HAHA see the phaggot say it is a “pleasure”….thats definitely a guy who hates the Raiders

  424. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i wish hue would do a better job at keeping his love affair with moore a little more quiet.

    ***

    big pep,

    He’s hoping that teams will double Denny Moore so that JCamp can find DHB streaking down the sideline towards the endzone with only one man to beat

    Who you gonna cover on pass plays?

    Ford/Murphy, Reece, McFadden, Boss

    if we go 3 wide … opposing teams better hope DHB doesn’t transform this year

  425. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Are there any teams this preseason that really test our O-line?”

    Nothing like the Jets and Pats will do weeks 3 and 4 that’s for sure.

  426. Thec07 Says:

    This is very true. A new stadium would go a long way in increasing fan numbers.

    ++++++++++++

    Winning has a impact on the stadium talk also…

  427. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    Most of us don’t believe Al would let the Raiders go to the playoffs, raiderreign. That’s the point. Al finds a way to lose. Even if the team looks good early on, Al will find a way to lose when it counts. The Raiders haven’t been to the playoffs in almost a decade. So I don’t think we’re the ones going out on a limb with our logic.
    ___________________________

    I’m not asking about what you believe.

    Scenario 1: Raiders win division and have a home playoff game. What do you do? Go to the game or not?

  428. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t think anyone will give Al a new stadium. That’s what I think is holding up the 49er stadium merge deal. Remember..even Oakland didn’t want Al in 1995.

  429. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    420.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    Most of us don’t believe Al would let the Raiders go to the playoffs, raiderreign. That’s the point. Al finds a way to lose. Even if the team looks good early on, Al will find a way to lose when it counts. The Raiders haven’t been to the playoffs in almost a decade. So I don’t think we’re the ones going out on a limb with our logic.

    **********************************

    HAAAA you say Al doesnt wanna get a chance to be in playoffs is illogical…..MR again you spew more lies….its your calling card I guess

  430. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    428.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    I don’t think anyone will give Al a new stadium. That’s what I think is holding up the 49er stadium merge deal. Remember..even Oakland didn’t want Al in 1995.

    ***************************

    Oakland didnt want Al in 95? HAHAHAHAHA yeah thats why they played the 95-2010 seasons in LA

  431. Thec07 Says:

    if we go 3 wide … opposing teams better hope DHB doesn’t transform this year
    +++++

    go for 3 or 4 wide…

    guarantee teams wont be stacking the box….

  432. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bills release LB Aaron Maybin

    ***

    WOW!

    I wish MR hadn’t chased BCZ away

    Like to hear more about this college stud turned NFL flop

  433. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    425.Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    “Are there any teams this preseason that really test our O-line?”

    Nothing like the Jets and Pats will do weeks 3 and 4 that’s for sure.

    *************************************

    Jets front 7 will test us….but NE’s? LOL gimme a break this is not the same Pats D we use to see…..NO would be a good game to see how our oline is with Greg Williams being their DC

  434. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    I don’t think anyone will give Al a new stadium. That’s what I think is holding up the 49er stadium merge deal. Remember..even Oakland didn’t want Al in 1995.
    ______________________________________

    YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!

    Oakland City leadership is in planning right now to build a new stadium.

  435. Master Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, you’ve got nothing to worry about!

    Your grandson Brian the Genital won’t show up anywhere, he’s a total puss. You and the rest of the Kelly Family know he’s had an open invite for the past 6 months to cruise down to the Ritz to get slapped around and has hid in fear ever since.

    I even offered to let him party after his whipping and enjoy a free margarita from the PARTYDUDE 8000 (he’d owe me $28.95 to rent a commemorative glass, of course) and he ran away to hide.

    So don’t worry yourself into a spontaneous diaper crapping, old timer – Brian the Genital has been wussing out all year and I don’t see the trend stopping anytime soon.

  436. Sullivan44 Says:

    raiderreign,

    I would demand at least 2 consecutive playoff seasons before Al has demonstrated to me that he can still win. Then, I’d lift my boycott.

  437. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
    321.KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Brian Stow laying up in a hospital bed, life ruined, because some hoodlum “true fans” kicked his head in at a ballgame. AND, this blog puts up with Brien Bootlicker threatening people to show up at games. Sickening.

    Brien Bootlicker, you’re a disgusting piece of schit.

    *****************************

    I asked you to show up any place and you wont
    ————–
    Brien, shut up you pathetic piece of ghetto trash keyboard gansta.

  438. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    432.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    Bills release LB Aaron Maybin

    ***

    WOW!

    I wish MR hadn’t chased BCZ away

    Like to hear more about this college stud turned NFL flop

    ********************

    The same Aaron Maybin who walks around mansions in Puerto Rico with Vernon Davis being naked all day?

  439. RaiderRockstar Says:

    go for 3 or 4 wide…

    guarantee teams wont be stacking the box….

    ***

    Thec,

    DHB, Murphy, Ford & Moore have all got AMAZING potential.

    Having said that, I wish we had a better WR Coach than Sanjay Lal and I wish we had a vet mentor

    I would have kept Tollner or Hackett as WR Coach and dumped Lal. Terrell Owens, T.J. Housh or Chris Chambers over Nick Miller 24/7

  440. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    437.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:58 am
    321.KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Brian Stow laying up in a hospital bed, life ruined, because some hoodlum “true fans” kicked his head in at a ballgame. AND, this blog puts up with Brien Bootlicker threatening people to show up at games. Sickening.

    Brien Bootlicker, you’re a disgusting piece of schit.

    *****************************

    I asked you to show up any place and you wont
    ————–
    Brien, shut up you pathetic piece of ghetto trash keyboard gansta.

    *********************************

    Sure MR……tell us more as you cross post in record fashion today

  441. Thec07 Says:

    Having said that, I wish we had a better WR Coach than Sanjay Lal and I wish we had a vet mentor

    +++++++++++++
    Correct Brother,In fact I want to see Timmy as the WR coach..

  442. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “NO would be a good game to see how our oline is with Greg Williams being their DC”

    True that guy blitzes on every down.

    NE might not be the same on Defense as they used to but that coach is a defensive master mind and will have his group ready to play on Sundays. Will still be a good test for us IMO.

  443. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I’m not MR. Believe it or not, there is more than one person who thinks you are a complete sh*t head. That goes for you too Beeecham. Actually, I think you two losers may be the same person.

  444. LTR Says:

    MistsBrown

    I would say that in 1980 I figured out that Neil was God.

    How long have you been worshiping Neil?
    ——————————————————-
    1976 for me
    First tour: Farwell to kings.
    Last tour: Time Machine last month

  445. MistaBrown Says:

    LTR, in Concord June 26th?

  446. LTR Says:

    Yes Sir

  447. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I have seen Rush 8 times loved the Presto tour!

  448. MistaBrown Says:

    I was there, best show I seen from them and I’ve seen a dozen or more tours. Lifeson needs some respect that guy is lights out!

  449. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Brown I did not know you were a musician.

  450. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Patriots sign LB Niko Koutouvides

    They will also work out Darren Sharper, Renaldo Hill & T.J. Houshmandzadeh today

    DANG!

  451. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chris Weinke & Ken Dorsey are the guys responsible for grooming Cam Newton in Carolina?

    LOL!

  452. MistaBrown Says:

    OakGlenn,
    I didnt say I was.
    _______

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Brown I did not know you were a musician.

  453. LTR Says:

    I miss the old days with the real chimes and wood xylophine (sp) for Neal. Much richer sounding to me. We try to make every show possible each tou.r

  454. Sullivan44 Says:

    Rush…ugh. Trailer trash music.

  455. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Brownstains I was asking.

  456. Sullivan44 Says:

    As far as the Raiders getting a new stadium…you have to consider what cities would be willing to build Al one, when Oakland doesn’t even want him. When Oakland doesn’t want you, there aren’t too many places to go. If you want the Raiders to get a stadium, that’s another reason to boycott Al. Because as long as Al’s around, they’re not getting one. Who in their right mind is investing in Al Davis today?

  457. LTR Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    Rush…ugh. Trailer trash music.
    —————————————
    Clueless as always

  458. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Sullivan44

    Shut up and leave!

  459. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    435.Master Beeecham Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    Krappy, you’ve got nothing to worry about!

    Your grandson Brian the Genital won’t show up anywhere, he’s a total puss. You and the rest of the Kelly Family know he’s had an open invite for the past 6 months to cruise down to the Ritz to get slapped around and has hid in fear ever since.

    I even offered to let him party after his whipping and enjoy a free margarita from the PARTYDUDE 8000 (he’d owe me $28.95 to rent a commemorative glass, of course) and he ran away to hide.

    So don’t worry yourself into a spontaneous diaper crapping, old timer – Brian the Genital has been wussing out all year and I don’t see the trend stopping anytime soon.

    ***************************

    Haha you even lying again…first its tranny machine 8000 then 8500 lol….get your stuff together dummy

  460. Sullivan44 Says:

    Whenever I hear a car blaring Rush, I look over, and it’s someone who’s a cross between Rob Ryan and Joe Dirt, usually in some little hatch back.

  461. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    443.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    I’m not MR. Believe it or not, there is more than one person who thinks you are a complete sh*t head. That goes for you too Beeecham. Actually, I think you two losers may be the same person.

    *************************

    Now you dont make sense

  462. Sullivan44 Says:

    This guy at my high school used to blare Rush in the parking lot. My god did he get laughed at.

  463. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    460.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Whenever I hear a car blaring Rush, I look over, and it’s someone who’s a cross between Rob Ryan and Joe Dirt, usually in some little hatch back.

    *********************

    LOL and no personal insults? hahahaha

  464. BigTed707 Says:

    I know it’s only preseason, but I want the Raiders to win big this weekend. Hue needs to make a statement here in the Bay Area, especially after the demolishing the 9ers took last weekend, and the beat SF put on us last year. Hue’s gotta’ show us the potential “greatness” he “obviously” promises.

    Don’t show too much Hue – but lets open the playbook a little and CRUSH the 49ers for 60min!

    Beat the Niners, Beat the Saints, close the playbook and rest the starters against SEA. Come out week 1 all guns ablazin’!

    CODE BLACK 2011!

  465. Davy Jones Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    The problem is, Thec, we have an owner that won’t let us win. We win with Gruden, Al gets rid of him. We finally hit .500 last year, Al dismantles the team! That’s why there’s boycotts of Al Davis, both silent and public.

    ================================================

    Gruden, eh? Hmmmm, that sounds familiar.

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    And the silent boycott of Al Davis is the biggest. Most Raiders fans simply will not spend a dime on the team until Al is gone. I’m proud to be one of them.
    ======================================

    Actually, you’re proud to be several of them.

    I’d like to take this opportunity to complement the Raiders’ GM for drafting Denarius Moore in the fifth round. Might be the steal of the draft. Nice job, GM! ;-)

  466. Sullivan44 Says:

    There’s no personal insult there. There’s nothing wrong with being trailer trash. Most people like that are proud of it. Kid Rock made a career out of that image.

  467. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Sullivan44 whenever I hear whiny little bltch complaining on a Raiders Blog I look over and see your lame moniker.

  468. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    462.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    This guy at my high school used to blare Rush in the parking lot. My god did he get laughed at.

    ******************

    when they discussed about having sex with women how many laughed at you?

  469. Sullivan44 Says:

    Because that’s all Kid Rock has, is that image! lol. Does he do anything else? What does he do, anyway?

  470. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    466.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    There’s no personal insult there. There’s nothing wrong with being trailer trash. Most people like that are proud of it. Kid Rock made a career out of that image.

    ******************************

    veiled insult…you not foolin us

  471. Dakota Says:

    Culedpecker to the 49ers? Really? lol

  472. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hey, Rush is actually alright. I don’t worship them or anything, that’s all. It’s decent music. I just laugh at a lot of their fans, that’s all. They are huge in the trailer trash community. Nothing wrong with that.

  473. Sullivan44 Says:

    I think you’re just too sensitive, BeAlwaysUrself. There’s nothing wrong with being trailer trash and liking Rush.

  474. BigTed707 Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Culedpecker to the 49ers? Really? lol
    ***********
    Even funnier that he’d be the best QB on their roster.

  475. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    473.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    I think you’re just too sensitive, BeAlwaysUrself. There’s nothing wrong with being trailer trash and liking Rush.

    **************************

    “trash”….come on look at that word for a second

  476. Sullivan44 Says:

    Culpepper would be the best QB on our roster, too.

  477. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    No Culpepper would not be the best QB on our roster

  478. Sullivan44 Says:

    BeAlwaysUrself,

    Kid Rock calls himself trailer trash all the time. Are you kidding me? In Bush’s America being trailer trash became the status quo! It’s all about being trashy now.

  479. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    U just want your gradfagski qb back is all

  480. BigTed707 Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Culpepper would be the best QB on our roster, too.
    *************
    I doubt Culpepper would go 6-0 in the AFC west.

  481. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Culpepper would be the best QB on our roster, too.

    ***

    who is “our”?

    you must be a Seahack fan like Dvrick (or the same guy trolling under a different name)

  482. Raider Ray Says:

    We don’t need Culpepper. I like Campbell. He is intelligent and well spoken. That’s a rarity with black QBs.

  483. Sullivan44 Says:

    Culpepper career rating: 87.8

    Campbell’s: 82.6 (source: nfl.com)

    Culpepper is 35 years old.

    Rich Gannon was 37 when he took us to the Super Bowl.

    Culpepper is better then Campbell.

  484. GoodOle00 Says:

    Does anyone e;se see Jarvis Moss as having a break out year?!

    Where are they getting this?

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_pre_season

  485. BigTed707 Says:

    Culpepper is better then Campbell.
    *************
    We may find out this weekend!

  486. GoodOle00 Says:

    Sorry wrong thread

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch

  487. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    482.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    We don’t need Culpepper. I like Campbell. He is intelligent and well spoken. That’s a rarity with black QBs.

    ******************************

    Spare us your Grand Klan Wizard talk u troll

  488. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    483.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Culpepper career rating: 87.8

    Campbell’s: 82.6 (source: nfl.com)

    Culpepper is 35 years old.

    Rich Gannon was 37 when he took us to the Super Bowl.

    Culpepper is better then Campbell.
    *************************************

    Culpepper hasnt been good since before his knee got shattered….stop it

  489. Sullivan44 Says:

    Culpepper’s career rating after his 6th season, when he was at the point of his career Campbell is in now, was 89.3.

    Campbell can’t hold Daunte’s jock, BeAlways.

    Culpepper would be the best QB on the Niners roster. He would be the best QB on our roster, as well. There’s no way around it.

  490. GoodOle00 Says:

    Culpeppers washed up

  491. Raider Ray Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    482.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    We don’t need Culpepper. I like Campbell. He is intelligent and well spoken. That’s a rarity with black QBs.

    ******************************

    Spare us your Grand Klan Wizard talk u troll
    —————
    I doubt you can dispute that.

  492. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Tell me what Culpepper’s “qb rating” was after 2004…..we shall surely wait lol

  493. GoodOle00 Says:

    Before you all get your jocks in a bunch we already had Culpepper and he sucked.

  494. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    491.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    482.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    We don’t need Culpepper. I like Campbell. He is intelligent and well spoken. That’s a rarity with black QBs.

    ******************************

    Spare us your Grand Klan Wizard talk u troll
    —————
    I doubt you can dispute that.

    *********************

    I sure can

  495. LTR Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    Hey, Rush is actually alright. I don’t worship them or anything, that’s all. It’s decent music. I just laugh at a lot of their fans, that’s all. They are huge in the trailer trash community. Nothing wrong with that.

    Well, you apparently are far more accustomed/familiar to trailer trash life than I. I’m pretty sheltered on my 3 acres in the redwood forest.

  496. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Fake Ray….still mad black athletes have took your women from ya and slammed them better than u ever could? Not a race issue its YOUR issue cuz you lack certain manhood traits

  497. BigTed707 Says:

    Murph strained his groin – lol – no wonder he didn’t want his injury disclosed!

  498. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    489.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    Culpepper’s career rating after his 6th season, when he was at the point of his career Campbell is in now, was 89.3.

    Campbell can’t hold Daunte’s jock, BeAlways.

    Culpepper would be the best QB on the Niners roster. He would be the best QB on our roster, as well. There’s no way around it.
    *********************************

    For 2011? Never on our roster would he be……guy is done….you see how he played in the UFL last season? Shut up MR…again you just lie

  499. lefty12 Says:

    MR says”Culpepper would be the best QB on the whiners roster.He would be the best QB on our roster as well”.Aren’t they the same?

  500. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How did Culpepper do in Miami, Oakland & Detroit?

    Didn’t he lead the Sacramento Mountain Lions (UFL) to a 2-4 record last year?

    Puke!

  501. inonewordraider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    Culpepper’s career rating after his 6th season, when he was at the point of his career Campbell is in now, was 89.3.

    Campbell can’t hold Daunte’s jock, BeAlways.

    Culpepper would be the best QB on the Niners roster. He would be the best QB on our roster, as well. There’s no way around it.

    i answered every question you threw at me earlier so here’s one for you. you have to agree that this years team is better than last years right? and if so after sweeping our division doesn’t that make us division winners this year?

  502. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Since 2005….Culpepper has had more INts than TDs….yeah thats so much better than campbell lol

  503. Sullivan44 Says:

    BeAlwaysUrself,

    A guy says that black people for the most part aren’t intelligent and don’t speak well. He gets no invite to the game for you to meet up with? Just, “leave, troll!”?

  504. Raider Ray Says:

    There is a reason black QBs aren’t franchise QBs. They only get by on athleticism for so long. Look at the evidence. Culpepper, McNabb, Kordell Stewart, and Russell. All of them were supposed to be franchise QBs, they all got dumped.

  505. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    495.LTR Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    Hey, Rush is actually alright. I don’t worship them or anything, that’s all. It’s decent music. I just laugh at a lot of their fans, that’s all. They are huge in the trailer trash community. Nothing wrong with that.

    Well, you apparently are far more accustomed/familiar to trailer trash life than I. I’m pretty sheltered on my 3 acres in the redwood forest.

    *********************

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  506. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    503.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    BeAlwaysUrself,

    A guy says that black people for the most part aren’t intelligent and don’t speak well. He gets no invite to the game for you to meet up with? Just, “leave, troll!”?

    ************************

    I’ve been invited Fake Ray and he makes every excuse in the book

  507. Raider Ray Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    Fake Ray….still mad black athletes have took your women from ya and slammed them better than u ever could? Not a race issue its YOUR issue cuz you lack certain manhood traits
    —-
    That was uncalled for. I’m not racist at all. I have black friends. I’m just forming my theory on the factual evidence.

  508. Sullivan44 Says:

    Wow. Raider Ray is laying on the racism. Funny how BeAlwaysUrself hasn’t offered to meet him at a game yet. BeAlwaysUrself, a black man, evidently doesn’t get as angry at blatant racists as he does at people who merely want to discuss a GM change with the Raiders. Interesting.

  509. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    504.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    There is a reason black QBs aren’t franchise QBs. They only get by on athleticism for so long. Look at the evidence. Culpepper, McNabb, Kordell Stewart, and Russell. All of them were supposed to be franchise QBs, they all got dumped.

    ***********************

    Just like white women would dump you to go with the black qb in school?

  510. Raider Ray Says:

    I like Rush.

  511. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    507.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    Fake Ray….still mad black athletes have took your women from ya and slammed them better than u ever could? Not a race issue its YOUR issue cuz you lack certain manhood traits
    —-
    That was uncalled for. I’m not racist at all. I have black friends. I’m just forming my theory on the factual evidence.

    *******************************

    Boy we can do theories all day and i’m sure you wont like it….so spare us

  512. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    508.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    Wow. Raider Ray is laying on the racism. Funny how BeAlwaysUrself hasn’t offered to meet him at a game yet. BeAlwaysUrself, a black man, evidently doesn’t get as angry at blatant racists as he does at people who merely want to discuss a GM change with the Raiders. Interesting.

    **************************

    You may wanna actually read my posts you moron

  513. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    MR….why do you want the heat off of ya? You that scared?

  514. Violent Hands Says:

    *Quite a sight after practice, with second-year left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer and rookie offensive linemen Stefen Wisniewski and Joseph Barksdale getting in some extra work with assistant offensive line coach Steve Wisniewski long after the other players hit the showers.
    —–
    No Bruce Campbell wtf

  515. Raider Ray Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    507.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    Fake Ray….still mad black athletes have took your women from ya and slammed them better than u ever could? Not a race issue its YOUR issue cuz you lack certain manhood traits
    —-
    That was uncalled for. I’m not racist at all. I have black friends. I’m just forming my theory on the factual evidence.

    *******************************

    Boy we can do theories all day and i’m sure you wont like it….so spare us
    ———————-
    I don’t think you are intelligent enough to back up your empty arguments. I notice you like to talk trash without backing it up.

  516. Sullivan44 Says:

    What, you haven’t offered to meet him yet! It took you no less than 5 seconds to threaten me just for criticizing Al. Yet someone comes right in here and equates black people to animals, and you’re in a friendly little flame war with him. No threats yet. I don’t know who you are or what you are, BeAlwaysUrself. But I know this. Insults to Al Davis are far more offensive to you than racism against you and people of your ethnic background.

  517. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    515.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    507.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    Fake Ray….still mad black athletes have took your women from ya and slammed them better than u ever could? Not a race issue its YOUR issue cuz you lack certain manhood traits
    —-
    That was uncalled for. I’m not racist at all. I have black friends. I’m just forming my theory on the factual evidence.

    *******************************

    Boy we can do theories all day and i’m sure you wont like it….so spare us
    ———————-
    I don’t think you are intelligent enough to back up your empty arguments. I notice you like to talk trash without backing it up.

    *******************************

    please you already got proven to be a liar last year then lied and said you got banned….yet you come back here with the same name? Come on you closet homo grand wizard…go back to your trailer and suck off your older brother some more

  518. Dakota Says:

    zzzzzzzzzzz

  519. Raider Ray Says:

    please you already got proven to be a liar last year then lied and said you got banned….yet you come back here with the same name? Come on you closet homo grand wizard…go back to your trailer and suck off your older brother some more
    ————–
    More shallow threats. Do you even know how to argue? I guess that why you people like to wear bling. All flash and no substance.

  520. inonewordraider Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    482.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    We don’t need Culpepper. I like Campbell. He is intelligent and well spoken. That’s a rarity with black QBs.

    ******************************

    Spare us your Grand Klan Wizard talk u troll
    —————
    I doubt you can dispute that.

    hey man most qb’s aren’t rocket scientists they’re athletes. Eli Manning didn’t win any spelling b’s growing up

  521. J Hill Says:

    yaaaahhhhhhhhhwwwwwwnnnnnn

    ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  522. Raider Ray Says:

    Sullivan44, I never called black people animals. That was you. It’s like you are calling the kettle black.

  523. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    516.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    What, you haven’t offered to meet him yet! It took you no less than 5 seconds to threaten me just for criticizing Al. Yet someone comes right in here and equates black people to animals, and you’re in a friendly little flame war with him. No threats yet. I don’t know who you are or what you are, BeAlwaysUrself. But I know this. Insults to Al Davis are far more offensive to you than racism against you and people of your ethnic background.
    *********************************

    MR I’ve been inviting for 3 years….dotn act all brand new to this

  524. Thec07 Says:

    Raider Ray <——-Are you an adult? curious what line of work are you in?

  525. Silverandblack666 Says:

    It never fails either political opinions or racial slurs slow down this damn blog.

  526. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    520.inonewordraider Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    482.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    We don’t need Culpepper. I like Campbell. He is intelligent and well spoken. That’s a rarity with black QBs.

    ******************************

    Spare us your Grand Klan Wizard talk u troll
    —————
    I doubt you can dispute that.

    hey man most qb’s aren’t rocket scientists they’re athletes. Eli Manning didn’t win any spelling b’s growing up

    ********************

    big Ben is sure smart lol

  527. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    519.Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    please you already got proven to be a liar last year then lied and said you got banned….yet you come back here with the same name? Come on you closet homo grand wizard…go back to your trailer and suck off your older brother some more
    ————–
    More shallow threats. Do you even know how to argue? I guess that why you people like to wear bling. All flash and no substance.
    ***********************************

    LOL i dont wear “bling” and that term is over 10 years old….get in with the new

  528. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Fake Ray has been beat up by black people alot and had women he loved to LAMBED by the brothas too….so bitter I see…its sad

  529. inonewordraider Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    please you already got proven to be a liar last year then lied and said you got banned….yet you come back here with the same name? Come on you closet homo grand wizard…go back to your trailer and suck off your older brother some more
    ————–
    More shallow threats. Do you even know how to argue? I guess that why you people like to wear bling. All flash and no substance.

    you aint a Raider so change your name, look at all the black raider greats or any teams greats for that matter. better start following beach volleyball

  530. Raider Ray Says:

    I’m a cop.

  531. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ray,

    does this mean you will not be drafting Vick, McNabb, Garrard, Campbell, Jackson, Newton or Freeman in fantasy football this year?

    thanks for tipping your hand, bruh!

  532. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Fake Ray wont show up at Coliseum even spewing this garbage

  533. Raiders for life Says:

    I was there, best show I seen from them and I’ve seen a dozen or more tours. Lifeson needs some respect that guy is lights out

    #########################################

    Believe it or not…Rush is not in the Rock n Roll hall of fame. That should of happened 10 yrs ago.

  534. Raider Ray Says:

    Thec, I’m a cop.

  535. Thec07 Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    I’m a cop.
    +++++++

    really, what city?

  536. DEATHROW 55 Says:

    I wonder how good JC’s stats would look if he was throwing to moss in his prime????, I am fine with JC, I can’t believe culpepper is still in the league, wow. You must be a dumb a$$ if your asking for his services on this raider team.

  537. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I’m a cop…..where?

    Lets meet I want to defecate in your mouth you lackey government worker draining our economy.

  538. BigTed707 Says:

    Bring in Capt. Kirk – cut Sam Williams!

  539. GoodOle00 Says:

    Raider Ray, DOug Williams has a super bowl ,ring. There was a guy named McNair who did alright as well and others

  540. RaiderRockstar Says:

    new post

  541. LTR Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    I was there, best show I seen from them and I’ve seen a dozen or more tours. Lifeson needs some respect that guy is lights out

    #########################################

    Believe it or not…Rush is not in the Rock n Roll hall of fame. That should of happened 10 yrs ago
    ————————————————
    Rush-
    #3 all time number of gold records
    R&R hall of shame is a joke

  542. dvrick Says:

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