Post-practice news, notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 15th, 2011 at 7:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Pinch-hitting for Steve Corkran today with some information following the Raiders non-padded practice session Monday:
Offensive coordinator Al Saunders met with the media for the first time since being named offensive coordinator, talking about roots in Oakland that go all the way back to being a ballboy for the Al Davis-coached Raiders at Frank Youell Field.
“I grew up and and went to elementary school and junior high here, played at San Jose (State), got my masters at Stanford, so I’m a Bay Area guy,” Saunders said.
Saunders has interviewed with Davis on a few occasions throughout the years for vacancies at head coach as well as offensive coordinator. The opportunity to work with Hue Jackson _ the two worked together in Baltimore _ was one he couldn’t pass up.
“Sometimes in your life it’s the right time to do things” Saunders said. “I have worked for some great people and always had the opportunity to be in some really great organizations, and this was the right time to be here.”
– Interesting story by Saunders regarding Jason Campbell, whom he worked with in Washington. When it appeared Campbell wasn’t a part of Mike Shanahan’s regime with the Redskins, the two spoke at a barbecue at Saunders’ home in Northern Virginia.
Saunders immediately steered Campbell toward Jackson and Oakland.
“I said, `The best place for you, in my opinion, would be to go to the Oakland Raiders with Hue Jackson and the kind of football team that it is and the opportunity that it is. He chose to do that last year, and I decided that it would be fun to join him,” Saunders said. “He is one of the main reasons I came here, besides the affinity that I have for Oakland and the people in this organization. Jason is a special guy in my mind. If I can make any contribution at all to his development and to his success, I would be very excited.”
– Saunders on his role in helping Jackson: “I was a first-time head coach when I was 35 years old in San Diego and I know what that is. Hue is a young guy with a tremendous upside. He’s the right man for this job. I want to do everything I can to help make sure that when I do takes a little weight off his shoulders because there’s so many things on his plate and there’s so many experiences I’ve had in the National Football League so I can help ease his burden quite a bit in a lot of areas.”
– Safeties Matt Giordano and Josh Bullocks got work in the depleted Raiders secondary. A pair of former second-round draft picks in 2005, they’ll be given every chance to win a roster spot, according to Jackson.
“When we put guys on this team we put them on with the thought process that they have an opportunity. It’s all about performance,” Jackson said. “You’ve got to rise up and make plays.”
Free safety Hiram Eugene (disclocated hip) and undrafted free agent Zac Etheridge (knee) aren’t expected back in the near future. The good news is Stevie Brown, who tweaked an ankle defending a pass late in Sunday’s practice doesn’t appear to be seriously injured. Brown was a spectator Monday, but was walking from the field house to the hotel following practice without either a limp or a wrapped ankle.
– A helmetless Darren McFadden took a few handoffs in an early drill before taking the rest of the practice off. Jacoby Ford is no longer wearing a protective sleeve on his broken left hand, but the hand remains swollen and has a sizable surgical scar.
– Jackson instuted his “over 30 club” for older players, giving them the day off heading into an off day Tuesday. Included among the rested were defensive tackles Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelly and John Henderson, guards Cooper Carlisle and Daniel Loper, running back Michael Bennett and linebacker Sam Williams.
– Hard to imagine seventh-round pick David Ausberry not making the 53-man roster based on his play throughout camp. Ausberry would be a much bigger story of not for fifth-round pick Denarius Moore.
“He is a tremendous find for us. He’s doing some great things,” Jackson said. “He is a matchup nightmare for most people. He can catch, he can run, he learns well, so we’re excited that he’s a part of our organization.”
– Saunders was enthused when the Campbell nailed back-to-back red zone touchdown passes, the first to fullback Marcel Reece, and the second to wide receiver Shaun Bodiford with a leaping catch on the back line.
Bodiford is having a very good camp, although it seems unlikely he would pass what appears to be a clear top six at the position in Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford, Chaz Schilens, Denarius Moore and Nick Miller.
At this point, neither Murphy nor Schilens is practicing because of injuries, but neither is expected to be anything to keep them off the roster at this point.
– Another receiver who had a strong day was undrafted free agent Eddie McGee (6-foot-4, 210 pounds). McGee missed more than a week with an undisclosed injury but had a strong day Monday.
– Fifteen practices in the book and still no Al Davis, the first time anyone can remember the Raiders being this deep into camp and not seeing the owner on the field.
Senior executive John Herrera said Davis has been in Napa, but not on the field. Asked if Davis is expected to attend road games, Herrera said, “He was at our opening game so I’d fully expect him to be at all our games like he always is.”
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August 15th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Raider NATION…
August 15th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
#2
August 15th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
August 15th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Camp for the QB’s is exceptional this year compared to the last several…Outstanding…
August 15th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Jerry, switch hitting again?
August 15th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Well we can finally ditch the whole “Campbell never played in the same system in back-to-back years”.
Not only did Soup work with Saunders for two years before Oakland, they hang out at BBQ’s together!!!
August 15th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Strange that Uncle Al hasn’t been out there yet. Don’t even have the ability to sit up in a golf cart outside anymore?
August 15th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Saunders immediately steered Campbell toward Jackson and Oakland.
“I said, `The best place for you, in my opinion, would be to go to the Oakland Raiders with Hue Jackson and the kind of football team that it is and the opportunity that it is. He chose to do that last year, and I decided that it would be fun to join him,” Saunders said. “He is one of the main reasons I came here, besides the affinity that I have for Oakland and the people in this organization. Jason is a special guy in my mind. If I can make any contrinbution as all to his development and to his success, I would be very excited.
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Bringin it all home.
August 15th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
WHERE THE HELL IS BRUCE CAMPBELL? WHAT’S THE STORY ON THIS GUY? CAN WE PLEASE GET AN UPDATE ON HIM?
August 15th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Please drop injury prone Chaz and give his spot to a healty body. that’s all we need is for him to get hurt again after losing a good ball player. He has had chance after chance and just can’t stay healty…
August 15th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
NO BLACKOUTS 2011
August 15th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
BRING IN TATUPU!!!! WIMBLEY, MCCLAIN, TATUPU, THAT’S A FORMIDABLE LINEBACKING CORPS
August 15th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Read on twitter that Stan Routt has officially graduated from college.
Kudo’s to you Mr. Routt
August 15th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Well we can finally ditch the whole “Campbell never played in the same system in back-to-back years”.
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Not a legitimate excuse for looking as lousy as JaJason has at times, anyway.
Lack of familiarity with a system just can’t explain games like Tenn, St Lou, Pitt and SF.
JaJason is a 7 year veteran. System excuse is a joke.
August 15th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
I 100% AGREE WITH POST #14…..COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER, SYSTEM IS NOT TO BLAME FOR HOLDING THE BALL TOO LONG TAKING TOO MUCH TIME TO MAKE HIS READS AND SCRAMBLING LIKE AN OLD LADY, I THINK AL DAVIS CAN BEAT JAJASON IN A 50 YARD SPRINT
August 15th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I miss Rich Gannon.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Ya right bring in Tatupu…Just what we need. another slow LB
His nickname is Slowfa Tatupu why do you think he was released (asked for his release) by the Seahawks!!!!
He was not going to start
August 15th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
– Another receiver who had a strong day was undrafted free agent Eddie McGee (6-foot-4, 210 pounds).
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That’s a big target.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Kirk Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I miss Rich Gannon.
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So do I Kirk. So do I….
August 15th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
McElroy looked like JaJason on that last play.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
We have free agent wide receivers who are better than DHB.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
@#16. I do too buddy. Sigh.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
The knee injury to Bruce Campbell may be worst than it’s been played out by the Raiders. As usual, they’ve been closed mouth about it, playing it down, etc. That wouldn’t be too unusual if he had final come back to practice last week, but no, nothing, and we’re starting on the back side of a short training camp due to the lockout. It’s starting to get spooky. We need Bruce immediately, and while you’re at it throw in Taiwan Jones.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Gannon was awesome.
He completed 43 out of 64 against the Steelers defense. Check out the video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvPIAXpu7eg
August 15th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Gannon was awesome.
He completed 43 out of 64 against the Steelers defense.
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Great game.
Best play of the night came on defense though.
Rod Woodson’s pick and long return for 6 !
August 15th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
John Stinchcomb released according to pft.
Worth a look?
August 15th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Here are some great highlights against KC…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fo7DXzhoA&feature=related
August 15th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Gannon was great with the shovel pass.
We should do that again with DMac.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
What’s up with Bigby? Is he hurt or just injury prone? I say pick him up if Brown is out for the start of the year/
August 15th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
It would be a stupid move to sign Tatupu and make him starter. Way past his prime and can’t play OLB to begin with. I wish some of you fans would stop wanting the Raiders to sign everyone with a name.
That goes double for Kirk Morrison. LOL at the thought of him play WSLB. Give me a break. Guy is molasses.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
August 15th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
John Stinchcomb released according to pft.
Worth a look?
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We had his brother for a short while. I believe John was the better of the two but don’t really know for sure. Why did they let him go? $’s or skill set?
August 15th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Can somebody please tell me one good thing about Nick Miller!? Short, not fast (by NFL standards) scared of contact (watch him fall at the first sign of somebody touching him). He was a Tom Cable project just like Gradkowski and Ricky Brown. According to a report earlier he catches all punts off of his chest. I’ve never seen him on a tackle on special teams either. So again, why has this guy not been dropped yet? Keep somebody productive like Bodiford and get rid of this clown.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Kirk Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Gannon was awesome.
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Dude was a league MVP. When your team has a Pro Bowl League MVP Q, your chances increase.
August 15th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Fifteen practices in the book and still no Al Davis, the first time anyone can remember the Raiders being this deep into camp and not seeing the owner on the field.
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Could it be Al trusts Hue?
August 15th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
@14
New schemes could be responsible for holding the ball to long. He got thrown in the fire last year and still hadn’t even known the plays yet. After he got benched, he got to sit back and soak up the playbook. That’s why when he was given a chance again and played better. I’m not saying he is the greatest qb in the league. Did u guys forget the Russell era. Dude was garbage at practice and in games. At least Campbell can hit a receiver and at least he doesn’t fall asleep during film sessions. Instead of sippin syrup, he is having our young receivers at his house getting extra reps. The man has been through a new offense every year since he’s been in the league. This year he finally has some stability, he has a great running back to lean on, some young weapons, an organization that’s commited to him. I don’t know about u, but its refreshing that I don’t have to hear that our qbare stinking up practice. All I hear is nice catch by Moore, nice catch by dhb, nice catch by our other wide outs, who’s throwing them the rock, its Campbell son. by the way no qb should everhave Ja in front of there name no qb is ever as bad as #2
August 15th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
34.8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Fifteen practices in the book and still no Al Davis, the first time anyone can remember the Raiders being this deep into camp and not seeing the owner on the field.
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Could it be Al trusts Hue?
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Could it be Al trusts hererra?
August 15th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
post35,well stated and most of us are pulling for Jason to have a great year,that means the RAIDERS do well.OH,a question for mrs,Did you renew youre niner season tickets?
August 15th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
340.ohioraider Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
big fan Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
207.priesttj Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Jhill he thinks Mr Davis is supposed to be perfect he used to worship him until he found out the he was just a human being now he’s all butt hurt and can’t accept reality.
Mr Davis has the same frialties as everyone else he just made a series of bad moves and now he’s not. It’s as simple as that….
We all go through tough times it’s what you do when you’re down that counts. He’s showing that he can get up and get it right. Kudos Big Al!!
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Thank you for such sophisticated analysis, Father Pride & Poise. I love it. “he just made a series of bad moves (er, consistently over the past 15 years, and then before Gruden) and now he’s not.” And your proof for the “not” is what exactly? One 8-8 season? My how our standards have fallen. I remember in grade school sulking whenever the team lost, and was inconsolable when they missed the playoffs–twice I think in the 1970s.
You’re nothing but a wishful thinker. You think the team looks good on paper, which is what they’ve been saying about this team for decades. A convenient way to blame the players and coaches when the season goes to hell in a handbasket. An old Davis trick, by the way.
But the fact is, the secondary, wide receivers, and half the offensive line DON’T LOOK THAT GOOD AT ALL. Certainly not playoff caliber. But you keep wishin and hopin along with all the other apologists.
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Got news for ya Ohio. When the entire nfl league and teams and refs conspire to keep the Oakland Raiders in the dumps to spite Coach Davis, it makes it pretty tough to ride the top. But Give Coach credit. He has taken a beating and gotten up and ready to roll through this season and deep into the playoffs. Coach Davis is back and as strong as ever.
People like to blame Coach for all that has gone ill for the Raiders.
Blame the entire NFL and its system, the way they control the TV market and the merchandising markets, the rules and the refs, and that is only scratching the surface.
Coach Davis has done right by hiring Hue and the former players hes’ brought back is a bold and calculated move.
Raiders will return to greatness. Bank it!
August 15th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Big Fan Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Got news for ya Ohio. When the entire nfl league and teams and refs conspire to keep the Oakland Raiders in the dumps to spite Coach Davis, it makes it pretty tough to ride the top
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Lame.
August 15th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
CVRaider Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Can somebody please tell me one good thing about Nick Miller!?
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Quick. Actually is fast. Former track star. I believe he’s got about 4.3-4.4 speed. Good hands. Decent PR guy.
I agree that Hagan or Bodiford could push him for a spot though. The top 5 WRs are clear. Assuming we keep 6, that last spot is up in the air. I don’t see Miller being a factor in kick coverage and I’m not sure any of the other 5 WRs are either. That could hurt him if there’s another WR who can contribute on special teams.
August 15th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
I’m thinking we should go with Murphy and Moore at the starting WR spots with Ford in the slot. DHB does look improved to me and I’ve always liked Chaz, but I just think Murphy and Moore are the two most complete with the most upside.
August 15th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
CHRIS,
You say Moore is complete and has upside….Prey tell, how do you pretend to know that? Based on one PREASEASON game?
August 15th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Interesting note from Al Saunders interview. He does have a Raider background. He was a ball-boy for the 63 or 64 Raiders at Youell Field. He was an Al Davis hire back then and we all know Al likes to keep it in the family so Al Saunders was added as our OC. He has great credentials and experience and should be a real plus for HuJack, The Raiders and us the fanbase.
August 15th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Murphy,ford,an Moore nice combo.
But DHB is on the roster an that makes things com
plicated for the productive wideouts. Also Nick miller can go to
keep bodiford.
August 15th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Murphy drops way too many passes for my taste, I want to let gthe camp play out and see what we have when it’s over. As much as i love Moore and David Ausberry I’m not convinced either should start. Having said that by midseason I could definitely see both starting.
You have to understand rookies do strange things of you put a little too much pressure on them. These kids don’t need to start starting is not the main issue it’s playing time. I want to see them both get touches I ahve to wait and see if starting is in our and their best interest. They are on the team as long as they’re active each game I’m happy.
Because in all honesty as good as Moore has been I think Ausberry has the best chance to have a great season. Just by virtue of the position he plays. He is a matchup nightmare he’s a legit TE with WR moves aand speed. He will be wide open most of the time while Moore will draw a teams best or second best DB.
I’m telling ya’ LOOOK OOOUUTT for Ausberry this kid could be a great TE not just good truely great.
August 15th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
The the NFL owners and players renewed their contract, for ten years no less, and too bad they didn’t up the number of players a team can have from (53)…say to maybe 55, 56 or 57 ? It just appears as if we have a lot more players that can contribute…to the number we’re allowed to keep. I’m not sure what we’re allowed to keep on the Practice Squad, maybe 7 to 10 ?
August 15th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Seems like ALL of the WR’s are making plays…Bodiford, McGee, and Hagans… tough decisions…
August 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
DHB is the best reciever on the team bar none. Ford is a distant second and Chaz when “healthy” is #3 then it’s Murph by default
August 15th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
But your Ok with DHB dropping passes. That’s ok for your hypocritical taste!
LOL
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Priesttj Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Murphy drops way too many passes for my taste,
August 15th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
It obvious that Hue and Saunders both have “big-time” faith in Campbell’s ability and that they’re working hard with him to take him to the next level. Saunders
says it’s one of the reasons why he came to Oakland… to see the kid develope into something great. Hope they’re RIGHT. Maybe they can give us a bigger taste on Saturday, like maybe half of the game before he
’s pulled for Boller or Edwards.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Saturday, like maybe half of the game before he
’s pulled for Boller or Edwards.
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Yeah I would like to see them give it to the niners… I remeber them blitzing veldheer at center last year during the preseason game…
August 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Don’t usher Nick Miller out so fast, all Camp ever talks about is Nick Miller. Guys these writeups from Corkran and McD are just their viewpoints and what they can gleen from watching practice. There are not the last word they are just points of view. There is 20x’s more going on in camp that they don’t mention.
If you asseume that if they don’t say it it didn’t happen. You would be very naive they can only write about and see so much. Even the trfained eye of a savvy vet coach has to watch film to see if what he thought happened actually happened.
Steve and Jerry give you a very narrow pint of view of a wide range of things that actually take place. And Hue’s after pratice pressers are a tired mans synopsis of what happened that day. he goes bck and watch film and sees what really happened and it will sometimes confirm what he said and sometimes it wont. Trust me it happen so fast out there and you can only focus one a few things at a time. I’ve been at a ton of practices and watched film later and it almost like you’re viewing it for the first time, you see so much more.
So while you csan enjoy these write ups they are hardly the total picture.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
KK are you usherin out Miller? Give the guy a couple more preseason games before your ready to throw him out into the trash.
Try Some Tenderness. Like the Otis Redding song of course.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
No wonder camp is going so well, no Al there to screw everything up. Herrera is such a d bag loser, total @ss kissing yes man. Useless…
August 15th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
DHB is the best reciever on the team bar none. Ford is a distant second and Chaz when “healthy” is #3 then it’s Murph by defaultDhidee99 Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
DHB is the best reciever on the team bar none. Ford is a distant second and Chaz when “healthy” is #3 then it’s Murph by default
DHB would not be the best WR on the SJSU roster right now. Wake up. You, brown hole nun, and Righty have a huge man crush on a very bad receiver.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Did any of you see Al at the last presser with the band aide? He does not need to be in public, let alone the sun. Dignity must become an issue with him. How can an 82 year old man look 102..but he pulls it off.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
What’s up with Bigby? Is he hurt or just injury prone? I say pick him up if Brown is out for the start of the year/
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yea that would be a solid pickup also wassup with kelvin hayden? this guy would be nice nickleback maybe starter
August 15th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
I think it’s funny how people will go to war for the likes of Nick Miller, screaming “Give the kid a chance” and in the same breath crucify DHB. DHB has been the number one WR for this team that past two years, meaning a either one-on-one coverage from the opponents best CB and/or safety help over the top. Watch his stats go up now that we he has a legit counterpart in DMoore.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
I’m concerned they’ll keep Schilens over someone with promise – such as Ausberry – and end up losing Schilens to injury and Ausberry to waivers. When Schilens is right, he’s good, no doubt. But at what point do we realize that the man is extremely fragile and can’t be counted on?
Oh well, I trust the coaches to make the right decision. One thing I’m very excited about is Hue Jack as coach. I don’t know fellas, I just have a real good feeling about this coach. I think Al may have found something here. I was seemingly in the minority when Al let Cable go. I was happy as I was never a fan of Cable as coach. Never. Always came off as a bit of an idiot to me. Even last year when we saw improvement, you could clearly see Hue Jack had a lot to do with it.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
DHB and Nick Miller should be cut.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
All you DHB bashers if you want to hear why I have been saing what bI’ve been saying about DHB just gom to the Raiders website an dlisten to Al Saunders interview and you’ll hear what I’ve been saying for a whole year and why I think this kid is going to be exceptional one day.
It couldn’t come from a more knowledgable and experienced scientist of football the Mr Saunders. I know Hue and Al hav egone over every piece of tape of that kid and the know what bhe can and cannot do it’s just a matter of time with DHB and coaching. The coaching he’s getting now is the very best there is.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
The Raiders are going to suprise alot of people this year. It has been awhile since we had a head coach with Hue’s energy. A coach like him makes everyone step their game up on the field. I trust his ability to call plays and make adjustments. I knew as soon as I saw the film on Denarius Moore he was going to be good at this level. He knows how to make a play on the ball. Recievers have to attack and want it. Something Ford does also. We have the most underrated defense in all of football. Our front four will make our secndary that much better, with or without Namdi. We still gave 30+ passing touchdowns last year. This is the year the Silver and Black show we are back!
August 15th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
TSR you obviously do not listen to the coaches when they speak if you think Ausberry will be cut. Go to the website an dlisten to Hue’s presser today and then tell me you feel the same way. You guys problem is you prefer to listen to people in here rather than the people that matter. These people in here are just fans man with a hackkneed opinion that carries no weight. The guys to listen to are the coaches and the owner. Just a heads up!
August 15th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Now if what I’ve said about DHB is stupid I have some very good company. The kid is just learning how to play the position the right way is all he’s way behind someon elike DMoore because DMoor has played WR probably his entire life.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Brown hole nun saya: It couldn’t come from a more knowledgable and experienced scientist of football the Mr Saunders. I know Hue and Al hav egone over every piece of tape of that kid and the know what bhe can and cannot do it’s just a matter of time with DHB and coaching. The coaching he’s getting now is the very best there is.
Well, I guess if anyone named Al says it then it must be true. Does this also apply to Hererra? Would you jump off the Golden Gate Bridge if Al or Hererra said it would make DHB a real receiver?Please say, “yes”.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Priest, chill out man. I meant Bodiford. I had Ausberry on the brain due to the praise in the article above. Granted, Bodiford hasn’t necessarily lit it up but I’ll take a healthy hopeful over an oft-injured Schilens.
You also must have skipped my paragraph where I said I trusted the coaches to make the right decisions. Again, I think Hue Jack is the real deal. Too early to tell but I like his style. Seems like a smart football man.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Moore is just a better athlete, football player, receiver. period. So is each of the other receivers in camp. No wonder MistaBrown clowns you nonstop.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Jmeds, what do you think of the schedule? I have our Silver & Black at 9-6 heading into the last game with the Chargers at home. The Chargers have it a little tougher and the Chiefs have a real tough stretch to end the season. That last game could be interesting as I’m thinking there’s a real chance it comes down to the Silver & Black and cry baby’s team.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Man all you folks just need to Chill Out. Hue Jack has this team poised to greatness. Its so all good. To DHB or not to DHB, that is the question. Let the coaches answer it on opening day.
It is all good.
CODE BLACK. Word!
August 15th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
68.Try Some Reality Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Jmeds, what do you think of the schedule? I have our Silver & Black at 9-6 heading into the last game with the Chargers at home. The Chargers have it a little tougher and the Chiefs have a real tough stretch to end the season. That last game could be interesting as I’m thinking there’s a real chance it comes down to the Silver & Black and cry baby’s team.
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Try Some Tenderness, I have our team heading in the last game at 12 & 3 and we all but home bruh.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
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August 15th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
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August 15th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
The only game I’m a tad concerned about is the Oleans game and that aint even season. So again, chill, and enjoy the ride. Its gonna be a good one.
I’ma tellin ya’ll, Hue got these boys rith where he want them.
We are even knee deep on the bench. We gonna be alll right!
August 15th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
What’s the latest on BCampbell. I can’t believe that fol went out an got injured on a NON-football related accident. He had to know this was the time for him to make a move and establish his worth. Getting injured like that is just dumb. Anyone know the severity or prognosis?
August 15th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
The Niner’s QB situation must be dire. They are trying out Daute Culpepper. I thought he was done a couple years ago when we let him go. I feel good about our QB line-up. 3 vets, all able to come in and manage the offense if necessary.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Interesting observation on this opening preseason week. Most of what would be the favored teams lost. Don’t know if that says or means anything but at least we were in good company.
I’m ready to start the win streak. Minimally, we should beat all bad teams. San Francisco is a bad team this year. I’m expecting a WIN on Saturday irrespective if it is the 1’s, 2’s or 3’s. It’s time for Hu’s boys to start asserting themselves & taking charge.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
#61 @10:51-you’ll take Al Saunders word over the experts on here?What is the matter with you?
August 15th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Yeah he would he prefers to listen to bloggers……….LOL because they sound like him.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
JB it was not his intention to get injured he was injured in a players only practice he’ll be fine he just a tad behind. No o ne in there right mind would compare DHB’s skill level to DMoore thus my comment that he is way behind DMoore. But there are obvious reasons for that. DHB is stilllearing how to play football let alone WR his instincts are way behind but his talent level is limitless. All he has to do is keep working like he has been. Hard work rarely goes unrewarded.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
The WR spot will work itself out.I believe many on here are going to be surprised and possibly upset at what transpires.Now on to other concerns.Even though it was only the 1st practice game,I must say it looked as if we have some depth along the Oline.It is going to be interesting to see how it unfolds.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:01 am
Who will get 1000+ receiving yds this season?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:03 am
But let me say this DHB is not the ONLY WR who’s way behind DMoore we have several that just arn’t close to his skillset. Murphy, Ford and many others are behind that kid. I said that the first time I saw him play he is so far advanced over most WR’s at this point in his career. Don’t just knock DHB for not being as good as Moore because neither are the other guys.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:04 am
I think DHB largest problem right now wil being able to get adequate playing time. We now have some real players ready for their time in the lights. It’s going to be hard for HuJack to put DHB in there if the Fords, Dmoore & Schilins are hitting on all cylinders. That is unless DHB shows in practice and real game situations that he’s ready to be a full time starter. For his sake I hope he makes it. He seems like a very likable hard working young man. It would be nice to see him bloom SOON.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Anybody who pays more 2 seconds attention to SisterBrown says deserves whatever they get. That sucka is the dumbest rascal going……….LOL
August 16th, 2011 at 12:08 am
Can Hugh Jackson and Al Saunders turn Jason Campbell into a real quarterback? The season may depend on it
August 16th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Hue Jackson, that is
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 am
JB The only concern with DHB is injury, if he gets slowed by injury it will be a real issue. If he’s healthy that kid is just way too talented to ignore. The skills will come and they are coming. He needs a full season and then an offseason under Hue and Al the rest he has.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:15 am
I’ll never understand people who go to bat for a player WHO HAS NEVER SHOWN ANYTHING. Defend an underrated vet who has some decent numbers. Hold out hope that your favorite player won’t be traded or get released. Pull for the guy who has been plagued by injuries. Whatever you do, don’t act like a guy is somebody when he has never even come close to showing that he’s good, let alone great.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:16 am
I remember when we drafted Jerry Porter and the media was all over Mr Davis about the kid he learned hwo to play WR in the NFL and so did Ronald Curry. In their 3rd seasons theys started to get it. Next thing you know the Raiders were getting rid of Jerry and Tim so those two could play. It takes time
August 16th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Try some reality, I think we end up 11-5 or 10-6 depending on those back back to games with the Jets and Pats. If we can squeeze both those I think we win the division. We have drafted well and have been building these kids. It seems someone is in Al Davis’ ear because we don’t see the big signing of the past. I tak that back. We over paid Routt, hopefully he plays like his checks. I think in the NFL the seperation is good coaching and management. Our management could use some help, but I think the staff Hue has assembled is the type of unit we haven’t had since Gruden. Hue is an up to date NFL coach and a mind that operates in today’s game. We have been putting our 69 maro up against the 2011 model for years. I think we finally caught up with the game.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 am
And Ronald Curry and Jerry Porter later put up Hall of Fame numbers as they made Pro Bowl after Pro Bowl, leading the Raiders to victory upon victory.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:18 am
With the lockout taking so many practices away, it is a major setback for these WRs to be missing reps with Campbell. On the other hand, its a great opportunity for D-Wow Moore and DHB to show their value. Bossman and Ausberry will have some big games with all of that WR speed on the outside and the running game threat. Play action…big play all day!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:19 am
I was watching the Sea/SD practice game earlier.Rivers threw a pass to Jackson like I would love to see JC throw to DHB just once.He hit him in perfect stride.The next pass he threw him was behind him.If DHB put in the effort that Jackson did to catch a totally uncatchable pass that was thrown way behind Jackson he would be roasted to no end on here.I wish all talk about DHB would just stop.Lets let everything just play itself out and whatever happens,happens.If he shouldn’t make the team he won’t.If he shouldn’t play,he won’t.It is fruitless for me and others to try and convince those that want the guy cut that he shouldn’t be,just as they won’t convince me of their view.The coaches will decide what should be done,not any of us bloggers.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:19 am
That’s what sports is all about son…………maybe you should watch knitting. This game is always been about players doing things nobody thought they could. Yeah you always pay attention to the great players but sports is about achieving against certain odds.
Go play more Madden and let the grown folks handle the real thing.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Well said Lefty12 well said, no one gets something for nothing if he gets it he’ll have earned it.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:26 am
Someone, anyone, please give me a compelling reason (other than draft status) to believe DHB is a great receiver. I would love to hear one compelling argument. By the way, off the list of compelling arguments are the following: “He’s been hurt a lot.” “He’s fast.” “Tons of potential.” “Al knows how to pick ‘em.” “He’s been a decoy.” “The qb issue has held him back.” “If he had Rivers throwing to him…” “Jamarcus Russell…” “Just you wait and see.” “I have a gut feeling.” “Raiders coaches say he’s good, and we know that coaches never overstate anything, especially not Raiders puppets, I mean coaches.”
Tim Brown was a great Raiders receiver who had to catch passes from Vince Evans and Donald Hollas. A great receiver is known by his body of work. No one should shame the skeptics for remaining skeptical.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Jmeds Excuse me but the offense we’re running is the same offense we ran in the 60’s and 70’s everything else I agree with.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Who said DHB is a great rec’r???
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 am
We don’t even have what I call a great rec’r we have a bunch of kids who have that potential and he’s one of them.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:31 am
100
August 16th, 2011 at 12:33 am
We have a lot of questions on this team that need to be solved,yet 90% of the talk is about 1 guy-DHB.Oline,DBs,TE rotation,LBs-these are all question marks along with a few other things.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Priest,
You and a few others are saying DHB is going to tear it up this year. If he does, I’ll jump for joy. Until it happens, there are no compelling reasons to think he will.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:40 am
Ortho-you can knock the guy until you are blue in the face.You can say he sucks all you what.The bottom line is what you say has absolutely no bearing on what will happen to the guy,just as what Priest and I say will have no bearing.Everyone has stated their feelings and everyone pretty much knows how others feel.Why continue with the same damn thing over and over?Lets just wait and see what the coaches and the HC,who,btw,almost everyone agrees is going to be a good HC,decide what to do.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:47 am
LG Loper signed a contract for about $4mil I believe.After getting replaced on the 2nd or 3rd series the other night,and according to Steve and Jer,not looking to good so far in camp,is his roster spot in danger?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Why do I say what I say? I say it for the same reason anyone says anything on here: we love the Raiders and we like to talk shop. Face it: DHB hasn’t shown anyone anything. It’s annoying to hear people talk about him like he’s done something. Jacoby Ford showed us something last year. Louis Murphy was drafted much later than DHB and yet did a lot more in his rookie year. We have some playmakers. Put the ball in their hands. Making DHB a starter because of his draft status is BS. That’s not a winning formula. You really think Hue thinks DHB is starter material? It’s an Al move. I think Hue is legit, but like most of us he has a boss and he has to do what the boss says. Sanity says DHB has not proven he’s starter material. Al says he should start, so he will.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 am
Al Saunders was asked how the team is doing at this stage and he replied: We have a long way to go and a lot to learn (not exact words). Which was an obvious answer but yet on point. And, the point is: It’s too early in the season to be making blanket statements about who will make it and who will be cut…so on and so on. Our opinions will gain value after each preseason game as we’re able to see their actual performance in game situations. Coach Jackson has said repeatedly, it’s what you do in game situations that count. That’s why the value of D. Moore has gone up so high, the catch and drag back foot by Asyberry, etc.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Ausberry looks as if he could really blossom into a great receiving TE if his first game is any indication.The question is will his blocking be at the level that is necessary to be an every down player?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Lefty…excellent point and they were discussing that issue. It’s something he’s trying to learn. He has good size and he was able to beat the CB’s big time in the back of the end zone. You don’t see that much seperation from a tightend, especially in a deep cornor.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:00 am
“we like to talk shop”.Really?It seems all you want to do is repeat over and over your distain for 1 player.I wonder who would be next if DHB suddenly wasn’t on the team.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 am
Well, good nite folks, I have to leave now, as I’m on my way to “loot and plunder” the english coastal lands.
That’s what Vikings do. We take what we want, when we want. Hopefully the Raiders can follow my example and rip off 10 or more wins.
Hagar!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:07 am
Does anyone else find it funny that on one hand most of the pundits say how much we will suffer because we lost Zack,yet in the next breath say what a huge loss the Giants suffered because they lost Boss-(And I was a Miller backer).
August 16th, 2011 at 2:33 am
Lefty,
Are you not able to take criticism of your views? Do you have money on DHB being great or something? Is he a relative?
I’m RESPONDING to the unnecessary optimism about a guy who should not be starting. Are you not bothered by the fact that a guy who is not the best at his position is on the depth chart as a starter? If that doesn’t bug you, then you’re not looking at reality.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:44 am
Priesttj Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 am
We don’t even have what I call a great rec’r we have a bunch of kids who have that potential and he’s one of them.
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True. I don’t think any one of our WR’s is the total package. Not a true #1 WR in the bunch.
We need to make a trade for Fitzgerald.!!! Our O would be able to really roll then.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:57 am
Look, I love all of my fellow Raiders fans. I spend at least an hour every day reading all if your comments while I drink my coffee, and I seldom say much. But this has got to stop. I wasn’t thrilled with the DHB pick, and his progression has been abysmal at best…but what frigging game were you guys watching last Thursday? DHB looked much improved. He ran two perfect routes, caught the ball with his hands and made explosive moves after the catch. It takes 3 years for most polished receivers to make an impact, and we can all agree, he was far from polished. He was not first round material at the time of the draft, but that is not his fault. How can you call yourself a Raider if you are not pulling for this kid? Stop hating on the poor kid and get in his corner. Get behind this team, and have dome faith. We have all stuck it out through years of misery, and we are finally here. This team will win now.
There is plenty to be excited about. And with regard to D.Moore being on the right path…dead on. I have not seen a better rookie receiver in Oakland since the kid from ND showed up.
August 16th, 2011 at 3:07 am
THE NEXT RAIDER HYBRID
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
August 16th, 2011 at 3:10 am
114. Too early to pull the plug on Bey just yet.
Cliff Branch First two yrs in the League 22 catches, 331 yds 3 TDs.
Year 3? 60 catches 1,092 yds 13 TDs.
Went on to a few Pro Bowls, collected a couple of rings and continues to get robbed by the writer hacks ruling Canton.
Too early to rule out Bey.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:18 am
Senior executive John Herrera said Davis has been in Napa, but not on the field. Asked if Davis is expected to attend road games, Herrera said, “everybody friggin knows al’s the coach ,off.cor.,,,def. cor.,,,G.M.,,ball boy.,,,and backup quarterback DUHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:15 am
It is fruitless for me and others to try and convince those that want the guy cut that he shouldn’t be,just as they won’t convince me of their view.The coaches will decide what should be done,not any of us bloggers.
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Come on Lefty!!!
OF COURSE NOTHING WE SAY WILL DECIDE THINGS, but that means we shouldn’t discuss it/talk about it??
100% of things we talk about in here have no bearing on what the coaches do; doesn’t mean it is “Fruitless”.
Half the people on here are trying to kill time at work, or during a slow part of their day. A little competitive conversation helps the time go by a little quicker, so people honker down and start giving their opinions on what’s going to happen, and it is of course, just one-bloggers opinion.
You guys are too funny with this “your opinion doesn’t matter, the coaches will make the decision”.
Really? I thought I was going to sway your opinion, and than Al Davis’ next. LMAO!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 5:15 am
It is fruitless for me and others to try and convince those that want the guy cut that he shouldn’t be,just as they won’t convince me of their view.The coaches will decide what should be done,not any of us bloggers.
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Come on Lefty!!!
OF COURSE NOTHING WE SAY WILL DECIDE THINGS, but that means we shouldn’t discuss it/talk about it??
100% of things we talk about in here have no bearing on what the coaches do; doesn’t mean it is “Fruitless”.
Half the people on here are trying to kill time at work, or during a slow part of their day. A little competitive conversation helps the time go by a little quicker, so people honker down and start giving their opinions on what’s going to happen, and it is of course, just one-bloggers opinion.
You guys are too funny with this “your opinion doesn’t matter, the coaches will make the decision”.
Really? I thought I was going to sway your opinion, and than Al Davis’ next. LMAO!!!!
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Nobody in here has to defend or justify – just bring it! We all have opinions, and you never know who might be tuned in (not that that necessarily makes any difference). In regard to DHB – I hated the pick, and I have always been skeptical, having seen him play at Maryland, before heading west. Having said that, I believe the commitment is there for him to be a #1 this year, at least at the beginning of the season. Give him the benefit of the doubt, and hope that all the rest of us are wrong. The Raiders are bringing up some other young receivers, just in case. This is DHB’s third year – his “put up or pack up” year. Let’s see what happens …
August 16th, 2011 at 5:44 am
The Posts are consistantley better than the articles….
THANKS RAIDER FANS!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:46 am
I like how things have unfolded thus far with the exception of our secondary, we will have to address it sooner or later. DVD will take time to get up to speed. Walter Mcfadden should not even be in the NFL,,I think Carlos Rogers, or even Lito Sheppard could at least service for nickel-packages. As far as safties, aren’t Ken Hamlin,Darren Sharper,or even Atari Bigby still avail, the secondary may be our achilles-heel,to a promising season.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:47 am
That’s what Vikings do. We take what we want, when we want.
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That’s what got all those Vikings in trouble several years ago on their infamous “party boat”!!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:50 am
ddwight Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 5:46 am
I like how things have unfolded thus far with the exception of our secondary, we will have to address it sooner or later. DVD will take time to get up to speed. Walter Mcfadden should not even be in the NFL,,I think Carlos Rogers, or even Lito Sheppard could at least service for nickel-packages. As far as safties, aren’t Ken Hamlin,Darren Sharper,or even Atari Bigby still avail, the secondary may be our achilles-heel,to a promising season.
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C’mon ddwight: McFadden is every bit as good of a defensive back as Terdell Sands was a defensive lineman!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:55 am
When I said that Walter McFadden was on the bubble to make the team, 3 months ago, I got a lot of flack for that one.
Mentioned the Miami game, his inability to stay healthy his rookie year and all the DB’s drafted this year as reasons for my opinion.
Still, not many listened.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Time to pull the plug on DHB.
We have six wide receivers who are better.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yikes! Someone get us a safety…who are these 2 guys anyways?
Anyways…Next Sunday…who’s going to be tailgating besides B@uce and Bob?
August 16th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Saunders was enthused when the Campbell nailed back-to-back red zone touchdown passes, the first to fullback Marcel Reece, and the second to wide receiver Shaun Bodiford with a leaping catch on the back line.
Bodiford is having a very good camp…
Another receiver who had a strong day was undrafted free agent Eddie McGee (6-foot-4, 210 pounds).
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bye bye Nick Miller!
August 16th, 2011 at 6:02 am
125.Kirk Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Time to pull the plug on DHB.
We have six wide receivers who are better.
I wish! Shoot, we ALL WISH!
August 16th, 2011 at 6:04 am
Time to pull the plug on DHB.
We have six wide receivers who are better.
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Who???
Nick Miller & Shaun Bodiford are NOT better than Heyward-Bey
Sorry, Kirk. try again
August 16th, 2011 at 6:06 am
So the reason Al Saunders came to work for the Raiders had everything to do with Hue Jackson & Jason Campbell, but NOTHING to do with Al Davis?
Ouch!
Air Coryell, baby
August 16th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Walt McFadden is every bit as good of a defensive back as Terdell Sands was a defensive lineman!
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LOL @ Tbone
what about JaMarcus at QB & Miller at WR?
August 16th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Nice to hear David Ausberry seems like a player, I’ll admit I was skeptical at first, felt he was the latest Raider WR-TE hybrid project who would fade away in a couple of years, but apparently he can play.
Ausberry and Marcel Reece are 2 unique weapons, both former WR’s in college turned FB and TE, they are big, fast and can catch but expecting them to become dominant blockers is unrealistic and I don’t think the team looks at them that way.
Hopefully Boss and Myers handle the bulk of run blocking and a backup FB can emerge as a lead blocker in short yardage situations.
I would like the Raiders offense to change personnel almost on a play-by-play basis so we can exploit Reece and Ausberry’s play-making ability without sacrificing run and pass blocking, maybe not from the get go as Ausberry probably needs some time to fully develop but at some point in the near future we’ll need those guys contributing in the passing game, specially if the WR’s are not.
Now if Ford, Murphy, DHB and Moore are making plays, it will just give Reece and Ausberry more room to work.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Morning semi-pros… Just say NO to Maybin is the word of the day.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:11 am
if Ford, Murphy, DHB and Moore are making plays, it will just give Reece and Ausberry more room to work
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Marley,
don’t forget turbo (dmac) and ms daisy (bush) out of the backfield.
add Terrell Owens and JCamp is a Pro Bowler!
August 16th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Walt McFadden is every bit as good of a defensive back as Terdell Sands was a defensive lineman!
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LOL @ Tbone
what about JaMarcus at QB & Miller at WR?
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JaWalrus never really PLAYED FOR the Raiders … he just “PLAYED” the Raiders!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Schilens ain’t goin’ to help us – hell, he may not even be able to suit up. Save the roster spot for depth elsewhere (maybe a SAFETY!)
August 16th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Maybin = Has-been
August 16th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Kevin Boss & David Ausberry = Rob Gronkowski & Aaron Hernandez?.
Our guys would probably get a lot less targets, but still would be nice to use them in a similar way.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Bob, you are right. We HAVE to find a place for Ausberry.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:18 am
If Chaz isn’t healthy, he won’t be wasting a roster spot.
You can IR him and have him ready by week 7 or so, and if he is ready, than he will replace someone on the roster (the 8th O-lineman, 3rd TE, etc.)
August 16th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Just say NO to Maybin is the word of the day
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good enough for me!
I’m cool with ShoNasty, Houston, Bryant & Moss at DE
Wimbley, Groves, Scott & Williams at OLB
August 16th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Jerry tweeted that Raiders in the past have only kept 3 safeties on the roster.
I think this year may be one of those years again.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Rockstar
“Marley,
don’t forget turbo (dmac) and ms daisy (bush) out of the backfield.”
I didn’t, I assume they will continue to do their thing….it’s the play-making outside those two that concernes me, but not as much as it used to.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:21 am
Just about every year there is a “Suprise” cut among the 53 with the Raiders. Some years, of course, are bigger suprises than usual.
Who will be this years “suprise” cut?
I will have odds on it after a few more preseason games.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Schilens ain’t goin’ to help us – hell, he may not even be able to suit up
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“If Chaz isn’t healthy, he won’t be wasting a roster spot” – JFB
Agreed with ABQ Life & Casualty Ins salesman of the month
August 16th, 2011 at 6:22 am
140.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 6:18 am
If Chaz isn’t healthy, he won’t be wasting a roster spot.
You can IR him and have him ready by week 7 or so, and if he is ready, than he will replace someone on the roster (the 8th O-lineman, 3rd TE, etc.)
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Sad to see a respected semi-pro such as yourself make such a mistake JFB. If we IR him we cant have him for week 7. IR is season ending.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Walt McFadden is every bit as good of a defensive back as Terdell Sands was a defensive lineman!
LOL!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 6:25 am
DHB supposedly got ‘nicked up’ again at practice yesterday. No contact day too. On top of his total lack of production he is now going to become an injury issue? That doesnt bode well for that young man
August 16th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Ed Reed was put on PUP last year by the Ravens, and was ready by week 7, and didn’t count against the roster until he was activated.
Excuse me, that was what I meant.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:26 am
You can IR him and have him ready by week 7 or so
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False.
JFB, you’re thinking of the PUP list – but if a player participates in camp and/or preseason games, that player is no longer eligible.
the only player we have eligible is Trevor Scott, who Hue Jackson says should return pretty soon. Jerry & Steve say he looks close to returning working out on his own on the other field with a trainer
August 16th, 2011 at 6:27 am
No harm in taking a look at 23 year old, former 11th overall pick Aaron Maybin, but we have Kamerion Wimbley, Jarvis Moss (former 1st rounders as well) and hopefully a healthy Trevor Scott, who has done a lot more than Maybin, to play the role of pass-rushing specialist.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Sad to see a respected semi-pro such as yourself make such a mistake JFB. If we IR him we cant have him for week 7. IR is season ending
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HAHA. BCZ doesn’t miss a thang!
August 16th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Maybin, the #11 overall pick in 2009 by the Bills has been called the defensive Jamarcus Russell. He is immature, not a hard worker at all. Lamarr Houston had more sacks against the rams (1) last year than Maybin has had in his career (0)
There are truly no redeeming qualities in this young man from an NFL stand point.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Well good thing we let Chaz practice and run a reverse in the first preseason game, now we have ZERO options with him.
Good catch fellers, I looked at the Ed Reed situation from last year as one we could use with Chaz.
No dice apparently.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Haha…Tank Johnson just had his contract terminated by the Bengals…
August 16th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 6:27 am
No harm in taking a look at 23 year old, former 11th overall pick Aaron Maybin, but we have Kamerion Wimbley, Jarvis Moss (former 1st rounders as well) and hopefully a healthy Trevor Scott, who has done a lot more than Maybin, to play the role of pass-rushing specialist.
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Maybin < Moss
August 16th, 2011 at 6:36 am
Maybin weight is down to 228… A little light in the A$$
August 16th, 2011 at 6:36 am
If Trevor Scott lands on the PUP list and Maybin wants to sign for the vet minimum as a pass-rushing specialist, I have no problem with that …
Greater chance that Oakland waits for Scott and Maybin goes to a team like New England or Miami (inside the division) though
August 16th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Tank Johnson just had his contract terminated by the Bengals
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is Pacman still on the team?
August 16th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Pacman? The boxer?
OK, bad joke, but is Adam Jones still playing in the NFL?
August 16th, 2011 at 6:42 am
That 2009 NFL draft is not looking so hot.
Jason Smith, Tyvon Jackson, Tits Smith, DHB, Aaron Maybin make up almost half of the first 11 picks; all various degrees of garbage over their first two years, with not a lot of hope moving forward (DHB may have the most honestly).
August 16th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Well good thing we let Chaz practice and run a reverse in the first preseason game, now we have ZERO options with him.
Good catch fellers, I looked at the Ed Reed situation from last year as one we could use with Chaz.
No dice apparently.
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poor personnel usage by Hue Jax. We had 13 WR’s right now (7 of which won’t make the team)
Why have fragile Chaz do anything other than run routes and maybe catch a button hook in the endzone?
August 16th, 2011 at 6:46 am
OK, I guess Pacman Jones had a serious neck injury last year and was out the rest of the season. It doesn’t go on from there. Not sure if Cincinnatti still has him, although he did sign a two year contract with the Bengals.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Pac-Man has a neck injury, but that didn’t prevent him from fighting the police a few months back!!!
Happened at 2:30am at a bar.
Loved his response he gave to press. Him and his wife were just looking for a quiet bite to eat.
At 2:30 am??? At a bar??
That’s like the guy who says he goes to the nudey joint on Thursday for the free pizza.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:50 am
If Trevor Scott lands on the PUP list and Maybin wants to sign for the vet minimum as a pass-rushing specialist, I have no problem with that …
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Really… you would bring in a guy to be a pass rush specialist who has exactly ZERO sacks in his career?
August 16th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Hwnrdr,
Bengals CB Pacman Jones (neck surgery) reiterated that he expects to be ready for the season opener.
Pacman can’t practice for at least 2-3 more weeks. His health takes on added importance with Johnathan Joseph out of the picture. Jones will open camp on the active/PUP list.
Roto 07/29/11. Due to make 640k this season
August 16th, 2011 at 6:53 am
bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 6:50 am
If Trevor Scott lands on the PUP list and Maybin wants to sign for the vet minimum as a pass-rushing specialist, I have no problem with that …
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Really… you would bring in a guy to be a pass rush specialist who has exactly ZERO sacks in his career?
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Not worth the effort and energy, given the limited amount of time before the final cut-downs.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Maybin has 15 career TACKLES! Thats it… thats his entire stat line as a pro. The Bills paid him 1 million per tackle. LoL
August 16th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Loved watching Moore in action over the weekend and Ausberry looks like a keeper!… Nice f-in draft picks, folks!!…
But what caught my eye was Trent Edwards… The guy has almost zero experience in the Raiders’ system and still came off looking pretty decent…
Anyone think after weeks of being in the system and some more preseason under his belt, Edwards ends up pushing Campbell for the No.1 QB spot?? Also, can we really gage this guy’s talent since he came from Buffalo where he had absolutely NO team surrounding him? Chime in, nation…
August 16th, 2011 at 6:58 am
fck mobin…he is the same guy as jamarka$$ russl
August 16th, 2011 at 6:59 am
But what caught my eye was Trent Edwards… The guy has almost zero experience in the Raiders’ system and still came off looking pretty decent…
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Not bad against the 3’s running vanillia…
August 16th, 2011 at 6:59 am
College career
Maybin redshirted the 2006 season. He had 12 tackles, with 4.5 tackles for losses, one forced fumble and one pass breakup in 2007. He was fourth on the team with four sacks and was named to the Sporting News Freshman All-Big Ten team.
Maybin had a breakout season in 2008. He was selected as the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week following a six-tackle, two-sack performance in Penn State’s 48-7 defeat of Wisconsin, in which he also forced two key fumbles. He was named a Mid-season All-American by Sports Illustrated, College Football News and CBS Sports. At season’s end, he was named an All-American and a consensus first team All-Big Ten selection.
Maybin was on the 2008 Walter Camp Award watchlist and was one of three finalists for the 2008 Ted Hendricks and Chuck Bednarik awards, awarded annually to collegiate football’s top defensive end and defensive players, respectively. He was named the Pigskin Club of Washington, D.C. National Defensive Player of the Year
College awards and honors
All-American (2008)
All-Big Ten (2008)
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BCZ,
he didn’t ALWAYS suck, did he?
I mean I’m not sitting here trying to convince you or anything … I just don’t what the dude is capable of and I’m not sure what a player does in Buffalo is any indication of that either
See what T.O. did in Dallas & Cincy compared to Buffalo?
Sort of like what Randy Moss did in Minny & New England compared to Oakland.
sandwiched in between was a tenure with a losing club. That’s all Maybin has ever known. Same with Lee Evans
I don’t think he’s gonna transform into a beast, but I’m not sure the book is closed on him yet, either. Does that make sense? I’ve honestly never seen the kid play!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Doubt Trent will push Campbell for #1 unless Soup gets hurt and Edwards comes in and plays really, really well.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Pac-Man has a neck injury, but that didn’t prevent him from fighting the police a few months back!!!
Happened at 2:30am at a bar.
Loved his response he gave to press. Him and his wife were just looking for a quiet bite to eat.
At 2:30 am??? At a bar??
That’s like the guy who says he goes to the nudey joint on Thursday for the free pizza.
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Vegas, a couple of years ago when I was doing conventions, we used to go to Play it again Sam’s…remember that place?
They had Happy Hour $2 Beers….buy 2 and get a free lunch buffet….(*George Lopez voice)member…..yooouuu meemmbberr?
August 16th, 2011 at 7:02 am
–Why have fragile Chaz do anything other than run routes and maybe catch a button hook in the endzone?–
Better to come back to reality now, instead of week 1 or 2 when the guy would almost surely go down after snapping his hammy running back to the huddle.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Maybin has 15 career TACKLES! Thats it… thats his entire stat line as a pro. The Bills paid him 1 million per tackle
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DANG!
that is pathetic.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Funny thing is that Kyle Boller I thought did decent in the second quarter. However, we all know how he looked against Jacksonville! I mean, hopefully they both do extremely well so that we don’t miss a beat IF JC goes down (knocking on wood)…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:07 am
We used to go to Play It Again for a great laugh.
Went once on Halloween.
I have some wild stories from Club Palomino.
Fully nude, full bar!!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:11 am
176.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Maybin has 15 career TACKLES! Thats it… thats his entire stat line as a pro. The Bills paid him 1 million per tackle
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DANG!
that is pathetic.
You mean to tell me that (unreportedly) Tom Cable had more than that against his own coaches? And one on the sideline????
August 16th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Maybin may have been the worse selection buffalo has ever made lol
August 16th, 2011 at 7:15 am
I cant wait for saturday…..i truly believe we about to put it on SF something vicious…..folks still trying to get the B@uce to go but I say hell no
August 16th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Maybin is a waste, left college early looking for the big $$… please GOD do not even think about grabbing him Al!!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:18 am
We need a LG and RG so bad yall! Loer and Carlisle? U gotta be joking!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:20 am
49ers will prolly pick up Maybin….they hurting for talent over there
August 16th, 2011 at 7:21 am
We need a LG and RG so bad yall! Loer and Carlisle? U gotta be joking!
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ROG,
tell your pal Brad Roll to make a run at Brian Waters!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Wonder how much $$ it would take to bring in StinchcombII?? Dude was a beast prior to his injury, much better than his brother..
August 16th, 2011 at 7:21 am
49ers will prolly pick up Maybin….they hurting for talent over there
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According to BCZ and the Buffalo Bills, Maybin doesn’t have talent!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:21 am
49ers will prolly pick up Maybin….they hurting for talent over there
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How will Maybin help that? Unless you consider swindling an organization for millions of dollars a ‘talent’
August 16th, 2011 at 7:22 am
So its Moore and DHBz starting vs the Funky Whiners on saturday?
August 16th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Lol…bcz the niners gave smith 5 mil for nada im sure maybbin can swindle a few tickets outta em
August 16th, 2011 at 7:26 am
Bring in Stinchcomb to play where?
August 16th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Atari Bigby to visit the Seahawks
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why didn’t we sign this guy yesterday?
August 16th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Ok I can’t take it anymore. Fact DHB came into the NFL as 20 year old kid new to football. Fact, DHB improved by doubling his production from year one to year two, while still learning the position & learning a new offense. Fact DHB flashed some big time playmaking ability last year, & put together some solid games. Fact DHB had some huge 4th quarter catches last year.
Now that he is in his 2nd year in this offense, & has wr gurus hu jack & Saunders, why wouldn’t he continue improving? Now that he actually has chemistry with a qb & the trust of the qb don’t you see him trending up. On the 3 passes thrown his way he had badly burned the db to get wide open, separation & rout running have improved by night & day. He looked completely relaxed on the sideline catch & almost made a huge play. Simply sending him to the bench becuase he isn’t your favorite would be foolish.
Jc is clearly looking for him a’s well as the staff is dialing up plays for him. Why? Becuase he has rare explosive play making ability. Hu jack suanders & Davis know better than you.
My take is DHB. Ford & d Moore are our best wrs & should see the field more than any other pass catchers.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Stinchcomb at RT… Im not a fan of Barnes.. he seems lost and gets ran around too often…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Breakout yr for Ford V12.
will lead team in rec & rec yds (1000+)
D-Wow – yds/rec
Bossman – rec TDs
August 16th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Fact, DHB improved by doubling his production from year one to year two,
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Please, that is like the 250 pound fat chick saying she lost 50 pounds.
Fact is, she is still a fat chick.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Please, that is like the 250 pound fat chick saying she lost 50 pounds.
Fact is, she is still a fat chick
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JFB,
the difference is … now MR is interested!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:42 am
RAIDERS BEST WR’s
1a. JFORD
1b. DMOORE
At the end of the year
1a. DMOORE
1b. JFORD
Everyone else can get in line…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:42 am
the difference is … now MR is interested!
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He is only interested in his starring role in ‘To Catch a Predator’
August 16th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Everyone else can get in line…
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Thec,
including Nick Miller (the unemployment line)
August 16th, 2011 at 7:43 am
DHB will be an improvement over last year however, he is not in the same class as 1a, and 1b…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:43 am
30. Tricky70390
Says: August 15th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
It would be a stupid move to sign Tatupu and make him starter. Way past his prime and can’t play OLB to begin with. I wish some of you fans would stop wanting the Raiders to sign everyone with a name.
That goes double for Kirk Morrison. LOL at the thought of him play WSLB. Give me a break. Guy is molasses.
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I agree except for the Kirk Morrison opinion. Morrison had great numbers for the Raiders before being moved to MLB. He would be cheap, better in coverage and an up grade for the WLB spot.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:44 am
starring role in ‘To Catch a Predator’
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Is that what happened to Steve Alford?
August 16th, 2011 at 7:45 am
RRS, come on Bruh, why do you hate miller so much…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:45 am
RRS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 16th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Morrison had great numbers for the Raiders before being moved to MLB. He would be cheap, better in coverage and an up grade for the WLB spot.
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MVP!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Here’s hoping the Boss-berry combo will make us less stressed about losing Z Miller…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:48 am
196.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Fact, DHB improved by doubling his production from year one to year two,
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Please, that is like the 250 pound fat chick saying she lost 50 pounds.
Fact is, she is still a fat chick.
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DHB has straight ahead speed, no lateral quickness, and no ability to catch the football.
2 touchdown passes in 26 games as a starting wide receive is pathetic.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:49 am
NMILLER when give the opportunity can make plays…
He adds depth to KOR, and PR…He is an asset on the field not a liability…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:51 am
why do you hate miller so much
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honestly?
he stole my Marinovich rookie card back in 1991!
August 16th, 2011 at 7:51 am
2 touchdown passes in 26 games as a starting wide receive is pathetic.
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DHB is going to be a lot better this year…Its up to The coaches, and JCAMP to get him the ball…
If he is 4 yards ahead of a defender that should be a TD…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:52 am
I wouldnt go so far to say Miller is a liability, but he is hardly an asset. What has he ever done? His best punt return is what 20 yard?
August 16th, 2011 at 7:52 am
if you want a white receiver that can’t ball, go get Brandon Stokley or Brian Finneran!
Nick Miller = Ryan Hoag
Look it up
August 16th, 2011 at 7:52 am
honestly?
he stole my Marinovich rookie card back in 1991!
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so thats it you beefing over a marinovich card..send me your addy, i will get one to you…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Dear Lord am I sick to death of this paper tiger Glass Shillens..the dude cannot play tackle football, and all we do every year for the past 3 years, (4 if you count this one) is allow this piece of china to suck up a roster spot, do NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to help this team, and sit back and count his hundreds of thousands of dollars…if we look up how much he has earned over the past 3 years for each catch he has made, its gotta be like 40grand a catch..
Chaz, you could be good, but you aint cut out of the gladiator cloth you need to be to be in the NFL..see you delivering my UPS packages dude, it is OVER for you.
Prove me wrong.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:54 am
RRS….Kevin Curtis use to be dope
August 16th, 2011 at 7:54 am
215.MikieG Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Dear Lord am I sick to death of this paper tiger Glass Shillens..the dude cannot play tackle football, and all we do every year for the past 3 years, (4 if you count this one) is allow this piece of china to suck up a roster spot, do NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to help this team, and sit back and count his hundreds of thousands of dollars…if we look up how much he has earned over the past 3 years for each catch he has made, its gotta be like 40grand a catch..
Chaz, you could be good, but you aint cut out of the gladiator cloth you need to be to be in the NFL..see you delivering my UPS packages dude, it is OVER for you.
Prove me wrong.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
August 16th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Glass Schallens…
August 16th, 2011 at 7:55 am
208.Kirk Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:48 am
196.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Fact, DHB improved by doubling his production from year one to year two,
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Please, that is like the 250 pound fat chick saying she lost 50 pounds.
Fact is, she is still a fat chick.
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DHB has straight ahead speed, no lateral quickness, and no ability to catch the football.
2 touchdown passes in 26 games as a starting wide receive is pathetic.
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Exactly….but even more pathetic is people making excuses for him
August 16th, 2011 at 7:58 am
212.bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:52 am
I wouldnt go so far to say Miller is a liability, but he is hardly an asset. What has he ever done? His best punt return is what 20 yard?
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Fringe player
August 16th, 2011 at 7:59 am
211.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:51 am
2 touchdown passes in 26 games as a starting wide receive is pathetic.
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DHB is going to be a lot better this year…Its up to The coaches, and JCAMP to get him the ball…
If he is 4 yards ahead of a defender that should be a TD…
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Ford,Murphy and Moore are all way better than DHBz…..that guy fkin sux Thec
August 16th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Kevin Curtis use to be dope
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so were Ed McCaffrey & Drew Bennett. my fav Freddy B!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Bcz24, last year he returned a punt 46 yards…but, JLH did one for 63, but both wasn’t consistent with that…with all these Smurfs, do we put a beard on HueJack and call him Papa?
August 16th, 2011 at 8:02 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:58 am
212.bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:52 am
I wouldnt go so far to say Miller is a liability, but he is hardly an asset. What has he ever done? His best punt return is what 20 yard?
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Fringe player
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Wonder what coach Jackson thinks???
“If” he is a fringe he will be cut.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Cliff Branch will be at Shifty’s Cocktail Lounge (Sahara and Valley View) this Saturday during the Battle of the Bay Game….Home of the Las Vegas Booster Club!!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:03 am
so thats it you beefing over a marinovich card..send me your addy, i will get one to you…
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Thec,
I’m joking bro. If I knew that dude personally, do you think I’d let him play for my team and suck so bad?
I’d hire him a decent WR Coach myself!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:04 am
The Real Ray is in the HOUSE!!!
Good Morning!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Ford,Murphy and Moore are all way better than DHBz…..that guy fkin sux Thec
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I will say that DHB has not been lighting it up however, he has improved, ans will continue to improve…JCAMP should not be under throwing him…
4 yards behind JCAMP should be hitting him in stride for 6…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I’m joking bro. If I knew that dude personally, do you think I’d let him play for my team and suck so bad?
I’d hire him a decent WR Coach myself!
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Timmah, would make a good WR’s coach…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Sanjay will get credit for developing our young WR’s when in my opinion he has done nothing…thank the org’s player personel dept for picking DMOORE, and JFORD…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:08 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Bcz24, last year he returned a punt 46 yards…but, JLH did one for 63, but both wasn’t consistent with that…with all these Smurfs, do we put a beard on HueJack and call him Papa
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Smurf Yeah!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Question how long are the 1’s going to play? 2 qtrs?
August 16th, 2011 at 8:10 am
JLH…ROFLMAO…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:10 am
228.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Ford,Murphy and Moore are all way better than DHBz…..that guy fkin sux Thec
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I will say that DHB has not been lighting it up however, he has improved, ans will continue to improve…JCAMP should not be under throwing him…
4 yards behind JCAMP should be hitting him in stride for 6…
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DHB would have dropped it just like the Jax game……I aint believing the hype…he is awful as a WR
August 16th, 2011 at 8:10 am
JLH>Nicki Miller for sure
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH<—–Gun shy after a mini hit…
DMOORE<——-Still ballin after major hit…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH>Nicki Miller for sure
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Coach Jackson and the org dont think so.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Ray there was a cheap knock off of you in here yesterday… some racist cop or something. B@uce did his civic duty and smashed him.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:18 am
237.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH>Nicki Miller for sure
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Coach Jackson and the org dont think so.
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JLH was a free agent man so they didnt cut him…..see how fast he got signed by someone? All you semi pros said Higgins career was over and he would never be in NFL. I ask you how many TDs or career receptions Nicky Miller has? Thanks. Ever made any pivotal play on the field? Thanks
August 16th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Put me on the “just say no to Maybin” list. The dude flat out sucks. He’s awful. just too light to do anything out there. He was a healthy scratch in 5 games last year. Couldn’t even serve as a rotational player on the leagues worst defense. Maybin was only 6 lbs heavier than their kicker. They could have had Orakpo. lol
August 16th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Maybin had 24 tackles, but he still sucks.
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Bills waive Maybin
August 15, 2011 – 1:37 PM | Comment
—In a move that wasn’t totally unexpected, the Bills today announced that former first-round pick Aaron Maybin has been waived.
In two full seasons in Buffalo Maybin, who was drafted in the first round with the No. 11 pick overall, totaled just 24 tackles and didn’t record a sack. He was drafted out of Penn State in large part because of his ability as a pass rusher.
Now, Maybin is another of a long list of Bills draft busts.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:20 am
236.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH<—–Gun shy after a mini hit…
DMOORE<——-Still ballin after major hit…
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This is false bruh….later that season back to back weeks vs Steelers and Skins JLH took brutal shots and still was coming. Yeah and all the bloggers said no team would sign him lol…philly did quickly
August 16th, 2011 at 8:20 am
238.bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Ray there was a cheap knock off of you in here yesterday… some racist cop or something. B@uce did his civic duty and smashed him.
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LOL
August 16th, 2011 at 8:21 am
240.guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Put me on the “just say no to Maybin” list. The dude flat out sucks. He’s awful. just too light to do anything out there. He was a healthy scratch in 5 games last year. Couldn’t even serve as a rotational player on the leagues worst defense. Maybin was only 6 lbs heavier than their kicker. They could have had Orakpo. lol
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Agreed
August 16th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Cut Nick Miller. He’s just good enough to play a role, but not valuable enough not to worry about dumping to the practice squad. We got to make room for Ausberry and Hagan. Designated punt return guy is too much of a luxury for one roster spot in 53.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Bcz….guy is a troll…Fake Ray claims to be a cop now after lying and saying he took a pic with Grad at a frat party in Ohio but yet he is from LA hahahahahahahahahaha
August 16th, 2011 at 8:23 am
test
August 16th, 2011 at 8:23 am
245.guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Cut Nick Miller. He’s just good enough to play a role, but not valuable enough not to worry about dumping to the practice squad. We got to make room for Ausberry and Hagan. Designated punt return guy is too much of a luxury for one roster spot in 53.
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BANG!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:24 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:18 am
237.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH>Nicki Miller for sure
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Coach Jackson and the org dont think so.
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JLH was a free agent man so they didnt cut him…..see how fast he got signed by someone? All you semi pros said Higgins career was over and he would never be in NFL. I ask you how many TDs or career receptions Nicky Miller has? Thanks. Ever made any pivotal play on the field? Thanks
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Of course they didnt cut him however, dont think coach or the org miss him.
Go find where I said he would not be in the NFL.
NMILLER did have a key catch in one of the SD game as I recall…
JLH did get more photo opps than NMILLER he was the vet on last years team and sat the pine, and was beat out by JFORD just like I said…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:25 am
JLH sux…
BOOM…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH<—–Gun shy after a mini hit…
DMOORE<——-Still ballin after major hit…
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I disagree, JLH was hit way harder!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:25 am
JLH sux…
BOOM…
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TRUE!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:26 am
If the RAIDERs thought anything about JLH he would possible still be in a RAIDEr uniform…. Fact of the mater is dude got hit once and was never the same…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:27 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH<—–Gun shy after a mini hit…
DMOORE<——-Still ballin after major hit…
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I disagree, JLH was hit way harder!
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what hit are you talking about on MOORE?
August 16th, 2011 at 8:29 am
If JLH makes that Eagles squad…it should be interesting! Him and DeSean…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:29 am
249.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:24 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:18 am
237.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:11 am
JLH>Nicki Miller for sure
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Coach Jackson and the org dont think so.
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JLH was a free agent man so they didnt cut him…..see how fast he got signed by someone? All you semi pros said Higgins career was over and he would never be in NFL. I ask you how many TDs or career receptions Nicky Miller has? Thanks. Ever made any pivotal play on the field? Thanks
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Of course they didnt cut him however, dont think coach or the org miss him.
Go find where I said he would not be in the NFL.
NMILLER did have a key catch in one of the SD game as I recall…
JLH did get more photo opps than NMILLER he was the vet on last years team and sat the pine, and was beat out by JFORD just like I said…
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Never said you specifically, just said the bloggers collectively did. Haha what SD game? Never did he!
Yes Ford outplayed JLH
August 16th, 2011 at 8:29 am
JLH = Avant = Baskett = Curtis on the Eagles. Just another dude that will get the ball occasionally when DeSean or Maclin is taking a breather.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:30 am
250.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:25 am
JLH sux…
BOOM…
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The Nicki Miller swallows cuz he has done nada in the NFL to date….no one ever heard of him
August 16th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I wanna hear MR today tell us about Culpepper being better than our entire QB roster…..that was a riot
August 16th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:26 am
If the RAIDERs thought anything about JLH he would possible still be in a RAIDEr uniform…. Fact of the mater is dude got hit once and was never the same…
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What leaves an even more bitter taste in Al’s mouth is that a frign Charger did that to him. Sometimes you got to cut ties with someone when they can’t recover.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:32 am
I believe Lil’ Nicky did have that sideline catch, but was it aginst the Chargers?
August 16th, 2011 at 8:34 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Fact, DHB improved by doubling his production from year one to year two,
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Please, that is like the 250 pound fat chick saying she lost 50 pounds.
Fact is, she is still a fat chick.
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What do you mean? the fact is he did double his output. the point being as long as he is showing improvement he needs the ball and playing time. You dont pull the plug unless he flat lines or begins to regress.
I dont understand the notion of benching a guy that is improving and finally seems to be starting to hit his stride, when there isnt anyone else on the roster worthy of his spot. I can see D moor pushing out chaz the glass and murph. i can see ford in the slot, there isnt anyone else that deserves to be on the field as much as DHB.
By the way if a 250 pound chick loses 50 lbs, that is a reason to continue on her mission. You dont ridicule progress, you have to start some where.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:32 am
I believe Lil’ Nicky did have that sideline catch, but was it aginst the Chargers
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32 yd in denver…whne we were up like 24 lol
August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am
When thinking about if Nick Miller deserves a roster spot, ask this: Would he be picked up on an active roster by any other team if we cut him? If the answer is no, keep him on the PS, and it’s like an expanded roster space.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Hwnrdr Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:04 am
The Real Ray is in the HOUSE!!!
Good Morning!
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BCZ24,…I know!!
What a joke….for a cop!
Good Morning Hwnrdr!
The REAL “Raider Ray” is in the house!
I get that all the time…peeps always tryin to be like me!!
LoL!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am
252.La Milicia Negra Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:25 am
JLH sux…
BOOM…
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TRUE!
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A euro phag has no biz in this convo
August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am
guest………..miller sucks
August 16th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Never said you specifically, just said the bloggers collectively did. Haha what SD game? Never did he!
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You are right It wasnt SD it was denver…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Funny when i posted how excited i was to hear about JC looking good in camp, the noted haters, came back with “its just practice”.
Now that he looked good in a game with live bullets flying people still want to take shots at him.
make sure you eat light dinners this year, because you will be eating your words for dessert.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:38 am
DHB is supposed to be this awesome athlete with size and speed, but when you see him catch balls, he seems slow. I know that he’s not slow, but he has to slow down and square up for the ball. He can’t use his jets to catch the ball in stride. He doesn’t have that kind of eye-hand coordination. If all he ever does is curl routes, his speed is wasted. I don’t understand how he even keeps his roster spot if can’t stretch the defense.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:38 am
B@uce!!!!!
What up mayne??
Im gonna kick it wit old Cliff on Saturday…!! Haven’t seen him in a minute..can’t wait!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Well, just getting myself prepared for Tailgate 2011, aka, CODE BLACK 2011!
Starts next Sunday at Noon!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Few things to comment on…
Post #175 Marley: you’re funny dude, good sense of humor, you need to write one liners for J Leno.
Post #162 Raider Rocket: Excellent question. Answer, Hue made a horrible call and we have to hope that he learns from that. After all, training camp is a learning experience.
Post #114 Josh Montero: Good post. It appears you need to post more often and get your ideas into the mix. There is a lot of garbage posted on this blog, a lot of hate, a lot of extreme ideas and thoughts…along with a lot of good opinions and well drawn out points of view as well. So, contribute more often.
Please guys, no more on Maybin or Morrison, we don’t need either one of them.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:40 am
guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am
When thinking about if Nick Miller deserves a roster spot, ask this: Would he be picked up on an active roster by any other team if we cut him? If the answer is no, keep him on the PS, and it’s like an expanded roster space.
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I am not sure he can go to the PS however, hagans and Bodiford, and Mcgee al are having great camps…
The coaches will keep the best players thats what i hope not some favorite with a stupid haircut, that does some dumb a$$ dance…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Ray………..thats cool! Take pics
August 16th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Hwnrdr yes CODE BLACK
August 16th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Thec..
What hit are you talking about?
August 16th, 2011 at 8:43 am
The coaches will keep the best players thats what i hope not some favorite with a stupid haircut, that does some dumb a$$ dance…
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dANCES WERE DOPE
August 16th, 2011 at 8:43 am
It’s time to give Boss his number back. Nick Miller doesn’t deserve his number. The guys you mention all have camp numbers. I am pulling for Hagan. He’s not going to stick on the PS. Someone will get him if we let him go.
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I am not sure he can go to the PS however, hagans and Bodiford, and Mcgee al are having great camps…
The coaches will keep the best players thats what i hope not some favorite with a stupid haircut, that does some dumb a$$ dance…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Oh and by the way, CAM NEWTON WAS SPECTACULAR IN HIS DEBUT!!!!
Yes he missed a couple of throws, but he also put a few right in the perfect spot that were dropped and mishandled.
haters said “he is a run first guy that cant read defense”….WRONG!!!!!
He stood tall in the pocket and made good reads. not one pass was forced into double coverage, or ever in any danger of being picked off. Not one time did he bail out from the pocket even facing a blitz. He slid around the pocket calmly, then set his feet and went through his progressions. He even diagnosed a blitz pre-snap and burned it with his arm.He looked nothing like a rookie.
From all reports he is showing up early and staying late and has been the consummate professional and teammate.
Before the haters come back with “who cares this is a raider blog” I CARE BECAUSE I TOLD YOU HE WOULD BE GREAT.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
If the answer is no, keep him on the PS, and it’s like an expanded roster space.
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Nick Miller is not eligible for the practice squad. You have to have been active for less than 9 games.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Thec..
What hit are you talking about?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcu6TCZ0HMM
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Mistic on fire
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
281.bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
If the answer is no, keep him on the PS, and it’s like an expanded roster space.
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Nick Miller is not eligible for the practice squad. You have to have been active for less than 9 games.
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Ive never seen him active one game
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
282.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Thec..
What hit are you talking about?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcu6TCZ0HMM
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Oh a college hit compared to a pro hit….I got ya now lol
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Spectacular???
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Cam Newton 8/19 for 134 yards and a 66.6 passer rating against second stringers
Jimmy Clausen 4/7 for 69 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT for a 90.8 passer rating against first stringers.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
DANCES WERE DOPE
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I hated that s#!T…Dumb fck with a qu33r a$$ mohawk…
same hair cut as jamarka$$…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:48 am
bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
If the answer is no, keep him on the PS, and it’s like an expanded roster space.
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Nick Miller is not eligible for the practice squad. You have to have been active for less than 9 games.
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then cut him!
August 16th, 2011 at 8:48 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
282.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Thec..
What hit are you talking about?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcu6TCZ0HMM
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Oh a college hit compared to a pro hit….I got ya now lol
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you still defending JLH…ROFLMAO…Really…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:49 am
# guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:38 am
DHB is supposed to be this awesome athlete with size and speed, but when you see him catch balls, he seems slow. I know that he’s not slow, but he has to slow down and square up for the ball. He can’t use his jets to catch the ball in stride. He doesn’t have that kind of eye-hand coordination. If all he ever does is curl routes, his speed is wasted. I don’t understand how he even keeps his roster spot if can’t stretch the defense.
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Have you been keeping up? the reports have been DHB catching the ball over his shoulder deep in camp. In the game he was wide open on a double move to get deep. he was open on a slant that was deflected by a d linemen, if he catches that one he was off to the races. The curl routs are open because dbs’ have to play off and respect his speed. By the way he caught an out pattern not a curl, and he almost broke the tackles stayed in bounds and turned up field.
I think where ever he gets the ball in his hands he is a threat to score. Hu jack Davis, and suanders agree.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:51 am
then cut him!
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We can cut NMILLER if the players we keep make our WR corp better no problem with that…The staff let JLH walk without a wimper, he would have been cut if he stayed….he knew the writing was on the wall thats why he bounced…
August 16th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Have you been keeping up? the reports have been DHB catching the ball over his shoulder deep in camp. In the game he was wide open on a double move to get deep. he was open on a slant that was deflected by a d linemen, if he catches that one he was off to the races. The curl routs are open because dbs’ have to play off and respect his speed. By the way he caught an out pattern not a curl, and he almost broke the tackles stayed in bounds and turned up field.
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It’s not as much fun to hear that so and so is making great catches in practice. I’d like to see some more on the field. Till then, he has a lot to prove. A one-trick pony. Put me in the ever-doubtful DHB list.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Thec..
well that sure is a nasty hit..
August 16th, 2011 at 8:56 am
# guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Spectacular???
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Cam Newton 8/19 for 134 yards and a 66.6 passer rating against second stringers
Jimmy Clausen 4/7 for 69 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT for a 90.8 passer rating against first stringers.
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Yep spectacular.
You either didnt watch the game as i did, or your just a hater.
The numbers dont reflect dropped passes which there were at least 4 catch-able passes that hit the ground.
Clausen had happy feet, and forced the ball and threw a terrible pick. Cam clearly out played him.
besides more than the numbers i wanted to see him read the defense and stay in the pocket not only did he do that, but he thrived and was in complete control of the game. he is miles ahead of vick when vick came out. he will be one of the best young qbs this league has.
He and freeman will battle for that division for years to come, one if not both will win a sb trophy before their careers are done.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:58 am
just a short while ago the Raiders could honestly claim that the game but oft seriously injured Ronald Curry was the best receiver on the Oakland roster.
such was the case leading to fans drooling over an extremely fragile Chaz because he actually seemed to be a legit WR.
now he too can be forgotten as the young WR corps takes shape.
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Maybin?…well, the Bears signing Vernon Gholston gives Maybin the hope that all evidence declaring “bust!” can be disregarded by some team somewhere.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain, Yo I am pulling for CAM also…A lot of the vitirol that he gets is racially motivated… they straight up want him to fail as most are under the belief that black cannot play QB…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:01 am
287.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
DANCES WERE DOPE
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I hated that s#!T…Dumb fck with a qu33r a$$ mohawk…
same hair cut as jamarka$$…
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Flat top isnt a faux hawk….be serious
August 16th, 2011 at 9:02 am
289.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:48 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
282.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Thec..
What hit are you talking about?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcu6TCZ0HMM
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Oh a college hit compared to a pro hit….I got ya now lol
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you still defending JLH…ROFLMAO…Really…
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just callin facts bruh….those hits dont compare….jlh was my boy but ford outplayed him…been said that
August 16th, 2011 at 9:03 am
# Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain, Yo I am pulling for CAM also…A lot of the vitirol that he gets is racially motivated… they straight up want him to fail as most are under the belief that black cannot play QB…
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some things never change
August 16th, 2011 at 9:04 am
When they were talking AFC west QB”s yesterday Mike Golic completley dissmissed JCAMPBELL. they talked about everyone except JCAMP…The only mention of our starting QB was the raiders have Jason Campbell, and both mikes started laughing….
August 16th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:56 am
# guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Spectacular???
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Cam Newton 8/19 for 134 yards and a 66.6 passer rating against second stringers
Jimmy Clausen 4/7 for 69 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT for a 90.8 passer rating against first stringers.
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Yep spectacular.
You either didnt watch the game as i did, or your just a hater.
The numbers dont reflect dropped passes which there were at least 4 catch-able passes that hit the ground.
Clausen had happy feet, and forced the ball and threw a terrible pick. Cam clearly out played him.
besides more than the numbers i wanted to see him read the defense and stay in the pocket not only did he do that, but he thrived and was in complete control of the game. he is miles ahead of vick when vick came out. he will be one of the best young qbs this league has.
He and freeman will battle for that division for years to come, one if not both will win a sb trophy before their careers are done.
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They’re going to give Newton tons of opportunities to win the job, but I think you’re really overstating how well Cam looked and how ‘poor’ Jimmy Clausen looked.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Flat top isnt a faux hawk….be serious
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Could of sworn I seen him wearing one…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:04 am
When they were talking AFC west QB”s yesterday Mike Golic completley dissmissed JCAMPBELL. they talked about everyone except JCAMP…The only mention of our starting QB was the raiders have Jason Campbell, and both mikes started laughing….
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Mike&Mike = no nothing a$s clowns
August 16th, 2011 at 9:08 am
just callin facts bruh….those hits dont compare….
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Why not the Pro to college disparity? Not sure I agree with you on the two hits…Granted JLH was whacked more was also but not by a SS, he was hit by a LB from the SEC….
August 16th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Mike&Mike = no nothing a$s clowns
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If i could hate someone mike golic would be on the list…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:11 am
ESPN hates “daaaa RAAAAAIIIIDDDDAAAHHHs”. I hate it when they all mimic Berman, like it’s some kind of inside joke.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Seems like Uncle Al and Hu jack hit home runs, on barksdale wiz and dmoore.
For the record i love dvd as well. he was shaky in spots thursday night, but on the two deep patterns with fitzgerald they were joined at the hip. That is the one thing you cant teach a db, how to run with an elite reciever. The rest he can learn, and he will.
best value pick up, sterling moore ufa
August 16th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Why are you so enamored with Kim Newton?
Like Guest123 said his first outing was mediocre at best and you claim he is “Spectacular”?
Wow what a reach to think that a 66.6 passer rating against second stringers is somehow “Spectacular”
Dude seriously its a man crush at this point is the only way to explain it.
Kim Newton will have a very similar career to Troy Smith get over it already.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Interesting comment from Fitz to DVD..fitz told him to attack the ball…DVD is going to be fine IMHO…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Seems like Uncle Al and Hu jack hit home runs, on barksdale wiz and dmoore.
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The player personel dept has really stepped its game up in recent years…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I agree that Barks, Wiz and Moore are solid draft picks. I hold my vote on DVD. He has the speed, but will he ever develop his technique?
One thing that the first preseason game told us is that the late round picks on corners is a crapshoot, and I don’t expect any starter from that group. Next year, Al’s going to need to invest a high pick on a corner. W. McFadden looks terrible.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Kim Newton will have a very similar career to Troy Smith get over it already.
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Wrong…he will be a star in the the NFL…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:18 am
# guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:05 am
They’re going to give Newton tons of opportunities to win the job, but I think you’re really overstating how well Cam looked and how ‘poor’ Jimmy Clausen looked.
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Did you watch the game? Claussen looked like a complete train wreck. He was uneasy in the pocket, made poor reads and forced throws. he was like a turkey on thanksgiving, very nervous.
Cam was the opposite. the game did not seem to big or too fast for him. Imagine what he will do with first teamers.
It was extremely impressive based on the fact that it was his first taste of nfl action, and he did what people said he couldnt do.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:19 am
ESPN gets face fuc#ed by Belichek and Andy Reid etc but Al Davis had the best offseason the last two years
August 16th, 2011 at 9:20 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:19 am
ESPN gets face fuc#ed by Belichek and Andy Reid etc but Al Davis had the best offseason the last two years
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On the constant…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:21 am
guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I agree that Barks, Wiz and Moore are solid draft picks. I hold my vote on DVD. He has the speed, but will he ever develop his technique?
One thing that the first preseason game told us is that the late round picks on corners is a crapshoot, and I don’t expect any starter from that group. Next year, Al’s going to need to invest a high pick on a corner. W. McFadden looks terrible.
he has the speed and the height just needs to add weight and become physical. Do you remember when we first signed Nnamdi? Or what about Routt 2 years ago? I’d like to see Chekwa and Moore beat out Mcfadden and Ware
August 16th, 2011 at 9:22 am
drafted nnamdi i shoulda said
August 16th, 2011 at 9:23 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Why are you so enamored with Kim Newton?
Like Guest123 said his first outing was mediocre at best and you claim he is “Spectacular”?
Wow what a reach to think that a 66.6 passer rating against second stringers is somehow “Spectacular”
Dude seriously its a man crush at this point is the only way to explain it.
Kim Newton will have a very similar career to Troy Smith get over it already.
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Unless you watch the games, please save your comments. looking at stats alone doesnt quantify a qbs’ performance.
To answer your question, he is a once in a generation talent. Yes he made some spectacular throws, one a on a deep seam route, he led the receiver perfectly and dropped the ball just beyond the outstretched hamd of the db that had water tight coverage, and just in front of the safety helping over the top. he put the ball where only his guy could make a play on it. Oh did i mention it was 30 yards down the field?
Spectacular about sums it up.
What is a man crush? Im only into women
August 16th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:18 am
# guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:05 am
They’re going to give Newton tons of opportunities to win the job, but I think you’re really overstating how well Cam looked and how ‘poor’ Jimmy Clausen looked.
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Did you watch the game? Claussen looked like a complete train wreck. He was uneasy in the pocket, made poor reads and forced throws. he was like a turkey on thanksgiving, very nervous.
Cam was the opposite. the game did not seem to big or too fast for him. Imagine what he will do with first teamers.
It was extremely impressive based on the fact that it was his first taste of nfl action, and he did what people said he couldnt do.
a bruh ppl blastin DHB and JCampbell on the regularin here when I’m excited by their progress, tell me how good DHB and JCambpell gna be this year maybe who they compare to?
August 16th, 2011 at 9:28 am
296.Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain, Yo I am pulling for CAM also…A lot of the vitirol that he gets is racially motivated… they straight up want him to fail as most are under the belief that black cannot play QB…
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Thats bs dude. I dont like Kim Newton, nor do I think he will be very successful. It has nothing to do with race. I am a big fan of Mike Vick, and I rooted heavily for McNabb when he played for Syracuse.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:29 am
im am still concerned with carlisle and satele. They can look decent one week and stink it up the next. Sometimes they can fluctuate in game the same way. These guys have experience so they have value, and they are not completely useless. However they are just too light in the loafers and will never be able to handle the power dlinemen. Unless these guys are replaced i see the interior being pushed around like we saw in pit and mia last year.
i am dying to see b campbell get into the competition.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I watched the game and I saw Kim throwing off of his back foot too much he saw limited pressure against second stringers.
Before you crown him (Just like you crowned Troy Smith too soon) let him win a few games that count against real starters in the NFL then crown him.
He is not a Raider so again I say “Man Crush”.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:30 am
I hate all the talking heads after the past years where they all snickered and giggled and guffawed everytime the Raiders or Al came up.
This year they dont snicker as much, they just dont mention us at all. I cant wait to kick arse again this year. Sooner or later they will have to give Al and the team credit
August 16th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Yeah, why does it have to be a black thing? I don’t even think of Cam as black. I think he has potential to develop and his first game was pretty good overall. He looked poised and stood tall in the pocket. But I wouldn’t label his performance “spectacular” by any means. That doesn’t mean I am hating or a rasist.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:32 am
I thought Cammy was too cocky in college and I dont like him. However everytime I see him on TV he is saying the right things and sounds very mature.
I might actually root for him when he plays Kansas schitty, the mile low mules and the sissys who wear powder blue and the crackboys
August 16th, 2011 at 9:33 am
How can you be concerned about Carlisle, he is our best and most consistent O-Line man.
Proof that you don’t watch a lick of football and your head is up your backside.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:33 am
# inonewordraider Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:21 am
guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:18 am
One thing that the first preseason game told us is that the late round picks on corners is a crapshoot, and I don’t expect any starter from that group. Next year, Al’s going to need to invest a high pick on a corner.
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Drafting dbs in round is a crap shoot. i think it better to draft in the late rounds unless there is a guy like p peterson sitting there.
rumph, buchanon, washington, for a few local high round washouts.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:33 am
i am dying to see b campbell get into the competition.
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I’m starting to think Beast Campbell will end up being a bust.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:34 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:29 am
He is not a Raider so again I say “Man Crush”.
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no you say man crush because your gey
August 16th, 2011 at 9:35 am
guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Yeah, why does it have to be a black thing?
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Why was Black Wall st a “Black Thing”…
I love all my Raider Brother no matter what color however, you have ZERO idea about this…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Wait, I thought we ran some type of mix power-blocking scheme last year??
So which way is it? Hue Jackson brought in a revised power-blocking scheme that Carlisle thrived in (didn’t miss one offensive play last year) or Cable’s ZBS manhandled the NFL?
Remember, Al stole Carlisle from the Baltimore Ravens the year we picked him up. The Ravens announced the signing on their website as their new starting guard, until Al grabbed him in the 11th hour.
The Ravens, to my knowledge, never have run the ZBS.
Cooper Carlisle is fine. Our most durable O-lineman, as well as our least penalized.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:34 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:29 am
He is not a Raider so again I say “Man Crush”.
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no you say man crush because your gey
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Right…some fools pic up junk that the they see on tv as if its cool…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:33 am
How can you be concerned about Carlisle, he is our best and most consistent O-Line man.
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because he got pushed around in a few games last year and the year before. he also getting old for a line man. His technique is solid this is what allows him to hang on, however he lacks power. To say he was our best linemen only means our line was crap last year ( thanks to cable).
August 16th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Thats bs dude.
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Thats your perspective and opinion…you are entitled no matter how un read you are…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Bruce Campbell is a bust…. why can’t people see that already. .. hue Jack. . Doesn’t even mention him… northern does wisniewski.. move onnu.. he’s a bust.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Mistic
Your crowned Troy Smith a superstar way too early and we all know what happened to his career.
You are doing the same thing with Kim Newton.
Kim Newton = Tim Tebow (great college career lost of heart but will not do well in the NFL)
August 16th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Mistic your judge of talent is retarded I hope you keep your day job.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:41 am
ghostraiders Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Bruce Campbell is a bust…. why can’t people see that already. .. hue Jack. . Doesn’t even mention him… northern does wisniewski.. move onnu.. he’s a bust.
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Based on what? cables assesment? or that he is coming off a knee injury he sustained before camp?
If he is a bust he will be cut first cuts, if he stays it will rove the org know better than you, or any other blogger…
August 16th, 2011 at 9:41 am
“Thats your perspective and opinion…you are entitled no matter how un read you are…”
This coming from the guy who cant spell and who’s grammar is that of a 4th grade level.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:43 am
“Well, I was raised in Oakland. I grew up, went to elementary school and went to high school here. I played at San Jose State and got my master’s at Stanford, as I’m a Bay Area guy. I was a ball boy for Al Davis at Frank Youell Field in 1963. The Raiders, truth be told, you grow up with a team as a kid and it was just the right time for me. I love Hue Jackson and we worked together in Baltimore. I’ve been around some great head coaches in the National Football League. I’ve worked with guys like Joe Gibbs, Dick Vermeil, Don Coryell and Marty Schottenheimer. In college, I worked with guys like Johnny Majors and John McKay. I think I’ve had some experience with some special people and I think I would really love to see Hue have a great deal of success here. As a kid, this was my team. You get to the tail end of your career and there are a lot of things that are more important in what you do. I would really like to see this franchise return to the way it was when I was a kid growing up going to Frank Youell Field and seeing those guys play. I’d like to help the guy that I was a ball boy for years ago and maybe return this franchise to the class and quality is was years ago. I’d really feel great if I could make a contribution in that regard.”- Al suanders.
This was a tremendous hire, and you thought no one wanted to coach here.
LAUGHABLE!
August 16th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Aug. 15, 2011 8:08 p.m. – by Eric Gilmore – OL Campbell working at OG in drills
OL Bruce Campbell is working at guard during team drills. He played tackle at Maryland, but former Raiders coach Tom Cable moved him to guard last year as a rookie. There had been speculation that he’d return to tackle this year. Raiders RapidReports
August 16th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Thec. . He’s a bust. . Get over him… obviously its my opinion. .. I’m just glad the old man didn’t pick him in the first round… its like saying schilens is not injury prone.. cmon dude.. I will be the first to admit that I was wrong if he ends up turning it around.. but I highly doubt he will.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:47 am
This is an excellent piece. Talks about air coryell and our offense. It speaks about why saunders chose oakland, and how saunders sees JC.
IMPOSTER FANS SUANDERS SAYS STFU!!!!
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Coach-Saunders-Media-Session/01e53bf0-fa1f-4eb6-874f-d6232e993c3f
August 16th, 2011 at 9:49 am
I’m black and i dont really like Scam Newton
August 16th, 2011 at 9:50 am
340.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:43 am
“Well, I was raised in Oakland. I grew up, went to elementary school and went to high school here. I played at San Jose State and got my master’s at Stanford, as I’m a Bay Area guy. I was a ball boy for Al Davis at Frank Youell Field in 1963. The Raiders, truth be told, you grow up with a team as a kid and it was just the right time for me. I love Hue Jackson and we worked together in Baltimore. I’ve been around some great head coaches in the National Football League. I’ve worked with guys like Joe Gibbs, Dick Vermeil, Don Coryell and Marty Schottenheimer. In college, I worked with guys like Johnny Majors and John McKay. I think I’ve had some experience with some special people and I think I would really love to see Hue have a great deal of success here. As a kid, this was my team. You get to the tail end of your career and there are a lot of things that are more important in what you do. I would really like to see this franchise return to the way it was when I was a kid growing up going to Frank Youell Field and seeing those guys play. I’d like to help the guy that I was a ball boy for years ago and maybe return this franchise to the class and quality is was years ago. I’d really feel great if I could make a contribution in that regard.”- Al suanders.
This was a tremendous hire, and you thought no one wanted to coach here.
LAUGHABLE!
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Yes really…..i love it
August 16th, 2011 at 9:50 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Mistic
Your crowned Troy Smith a superstar way too early and we all know what happened to his career.
You are doing the same thing with Kim Newton.
Kim Newton = Tim Tebow (great college career lost of heart but will not do well in the NFL)
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I never said troy smith was a super star, that is a lie. cam is a superstar waiting to happen.
There is no comparison between newton and troy smith, other that the fact they are both black qbs’ and are mobile.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:50 am
If Beast Campbell can’t make an impact soon, it’s time to cut him, move on with the team we got. No need to carry dead weight. Produce or get out.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Preseason revenge tour. Hopefully we can get at the whiners for lighting up Jcamp last year…
The Seattle game should also be a good one too Cable v HueJack, Seymore v Gallery, McClain v Miller
August 16th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Well, Al Saunders wasn’t exactly a big name being thrown around. He’s a good guy and a decent assistant coach, but it’s not like nabbing Parcells…or Gruden (ouch. you know that hurts).
As far as all of this chemistry between he and Hue…it would all be great if they didn’t work for an owner who purposely pits his coaches against each other.
Long story short…we’ve heard all this before.
Jackson/Saunders: 2 losing seasons, gone.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:54 am
I hope McClain puts Miller on a stretcher, Seymour puts Gallery into retirement, and Hue drives Cable insane enough to get arrested for beating his woman after the game.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Guest… totally agree… that’s my exact point. Same thing with China doll schilens. … he steps on the field and strains something all the time.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:56 am
“There is no comparison between newton and troy smith, other that the fact they are both black qbs’ and are mobile.”
They both won the Heisman trophy they both had great college careers they are both mobile. Why do you always throw in race who cares what color he is?
And yes you did say Troy was a superstar, you don’t remember?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:00 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
And yes you did say Troy was a superstar, you don’t remember?
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i dont ever remember using the word superstar where smith is concerned. i doubt very highly that i did. However troy smith has zero to do with cam newton. obviusly people in the panther organization and others in draft rooms had the same opinion as mine.
NEXT
August 16th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Well, Al Saunders wasn’t exactly a big name being thrown around. He’s a good guy and a decent assistant coach, but it’s not like nabbing Parcells…or Gruden (ouch. you know that hurts).
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WE INTERUPT THIS PROGRAM FOR BREAKING NEWS….
Al suanders is a big name coach and one of the legends of this generation. maybe you have heard of the the greatest show on turf, or air coryell.
he is responsible for some of the most prolific offenses in football history.
what are you talking about?
Is this gradkowski raider cross posting again?
Your boy sucked in his cincy debut!!!! Looked like he was lost
August 16th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:41 am
“Thats your perspective and opinion…you are entitled no matter how un read you are…”
This coming from the guy who cant spell and who’s grammar is that of a 4th grade level.
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You buzz killed over your man crush comment…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:04 am
guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:50 am
If Beast Campbell can’t make an impact soon, it’s time to cut him, move on with the team we got. No need to carry dead weight. Produce or get out.
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If the org thinks he is a keeper he wil stay..Not becuase someone on the blog thinks he sucs…
Plain and simple no???
August 16th, 2011 at 10:05 am
They both won the Heisman trophy they both had great college careers they are both mobile. Why do you always throw in race who cares what color he is?
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He’s a racist, that’s why.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:05 am
And yes you did say Troy was a superstar, you don’t remember?
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I dont remember anyone saying SMITH was a star…
Go to the archives man chrusher…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Misitc
Kim Newton is NOT a Raider.
What is it about him that makes you animate his success or failure?
Please explain otherwise we will all have to assume its a homo man crush you have on him.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Thec07
What are you his mom?
Does he need your input or does he need you to stick up for him?
Why are you talking to me?
Were you invited on this conversation or are you just simpleton looking for attention today?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:10 am
“I dont remember anyone saying SMITH was a star…”
So now you are the Blog keeper and somehow know every post that was ever written here?
Are you and Mistic related? Does he fondle your sack? Why the need to but into our conversation unless you think he lacks the brain power to answer for himself?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Thec07
What are you his mom?
Does he need your input or does he need you to stick up for him?
Why are you talking to me?
Were you invited on this conversation or are you just simpleton looking for attention today?
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666, I was minding my own business when you came at me… Invited, oh you must be someone with the CC times, or the owner of the blog…Last time I checked this was a blog…
Ahhh Simpleton, 666 where are you this minute?
I am in my office evaluating mlearning software platforms to deploy training content agnostically via the web….
What are you doing???
If you dont want me coming at you dont come at me…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Cut Nick Miller. He’s just good enough to play a role, but not valuable enough not to worry about dumping to the practice squad. We got to make room for Ausberry and Hagan. Designated punt return guy is too much of a luxury for one roster spot in 53
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G123 is a valuable asset to this blog
August 16th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Is this gradkowski raider cross posting again?
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Sulivan44 IS in fact RealMaddenRaider, RealGradkowskiRaider, RAIDER and any of his other personas.
YOu would think if the jackass used a different in order to fool us he would try and act differently.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:13 am
361. Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Does he fondle your sack?
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This cat is hella gey
August 16th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:10 am
“I dont remember anyone saying SMITH was a star…”
So now you are the Blog keeper and somehow know every post that was ever written here?
Are you and Mistic related? Does he fondle your sack? Why the need to but into our conversation unless you think he lacks the brain power to answer for himself?
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Its clear you are qu33r, you have a self absorbed facination… they have pills for that…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:13 am
361. Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Does he fondle your sack?
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This cat is hella gey
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guys truly funny…Goes off the deep end attacks me and says I wasnt invited on a blog no less…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:17 am
If JLH makes that Eagles squad…it should be interesting! Him and DeSean…
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Hwnrdr,
Agreed. DJax, JLH & JMac at WR = SPEED KILLS!
August 16th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Wow you are important you evaluate software. So does a common housewife when she downloads an app for her iphone.
I never invited you into any of my conversations so don’t flatter yourself. I call Misitc gay then you call me me a qu33r how original and creative whats next I am rubber you are glue what ever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.
Your 4th grade level retorts and attempt to look semi intelligent because you are evaluation a software application is laughable.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:22 am
When thinking about if Nick Miller deserves a roster spot, ask this: Would he be picked up on an active roster by any other team if we cut him? If the answer is no, keep him on the PS, and it’s like an expanded roster space.
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G123,
dude would start for a playoff team. you kidding me?
NM89 = Wes Welker, right?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:22 am
now you cant read.
Wow this is getting funnier by the minute. I said I never invited you into my conversation with Mistic not that you were not invited to this Blog.
Any tard can post on this blog Einstein you don’t need to be invited.
Try reading first before opening your mouth it might serve you well.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:23 am
silver and crack your entire life is laughable
August 16th, 2011 at 10:24 am
368.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:17 am
If JLH makes that Eagles squad…it should be interesting! Him and DeSean…
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Hwnrdr,
Agreed. DJax, JLH & JMac at WR = SPEED KILLS!
Right…I forgot about JMac…WOW! Let’s see how they do…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Here’s a fresh splash of kool-aide for the Raider Nation:
http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d8217c1d5/article/raiders-have-reason-to-think-playoffs-with-jackson-at-the-helm?module=HP11_cp
NAPA, Calif. — Getting to go to certain training camps year after year, you really have a chance to evaluate the current version of a team vs. what you saw the prior season. In the three practices that I’ve seen, the Oakland Raiders seem like a team ready to accomplish something in 2011.
I’m not sold on the San Diego Chargers bouncing back this season and the Kansas City Chiefs could take a step back after winning the AFC West last season.
That’s where the Raiders come in. Hue Jackson’s team is ready to make a playoff run. You see the attitude adjustment in camp with him as the head coach and with his two new coordinators. One thing that seems to have changed under Jackson is the physical demand on players. They appear to be working harder and hustling more between drills. It’s not a 75 percent jog that’s been the case in years past; it’s a 110 percent all the time.
Jackson’s rallying cry for the team this year is to be the “bully on the block.” The Raiders are well on their way to living up to the slogan, and here are some reasons why they could win the AFC West this season.
Campbell taking the next step
It appears Jason Campbell is ready to thrive with new offensive coordinator Al Saunders, who has nearly 30 years of NFL coaching experience. Saunders is really good at doing things to make quarterbacks better. He won’t call the plays for Campbell, Jackson will, but the foundation for success is in place.
Don’t forget, Campbell didn’t play poorly last season and has 22 more touchdown passes than interceptions in his career.
More weapons on offense
The receiving corps isn’t the best group in the league, but it’s capable enough to make Campbell a better quarterback. The Raiders want to run the ball — they had the second-ranked ground game in 2010 — but they have more weapons in the passing game.
Jacoby Ford had a pretty darn good rookie year and should only get better. He’s so much more confident than he was last season. Louis Murphy is a pretty good receiver, while Darrius Heyward-Bey always looks like he’s ready for the next step — but potential hasn’t led to production yet.
Marcel Reece really creates matchup problems out of the backfield because he’s a former wide receiver playing fullback. He can run, catch and his speed makes a him a tough cover.
Fifth-round pick Denarius Moore can run a sub-4.4 second 40-yard dash and really runs good routes. A lot of fast guys can’t get out of their breaks, but he can. He could have an immediate impact. He’s also good on kick returns. He had a long one called back in the Raiders’ preseason opener against the Arizona Cardinals.
The Raiders lost Pro Bowl tight end Zach Miller in free agency, but Kevin Boss is a pretty even exchange. Sixth-round pick Richard Gordon is going to give them a great blocking tight end. That should help their running game.
Defense taking shape
The defense is anchored by veteran Richard Seymour. He’s the leader of every drill, running around like a rookie who’s trying to make the team.
As a whole, the defense has a good mix of veterans with younger guys like Rolando McClain and Lamarr Houston, which usually leads to success.
Speaking of McClain, he’s dropped 10 pounds from last year and is really moving well. He came in as a rookie with an attitude off a national title team like he had nothing to prove. That’s gone now.
Stanford Routt takes over the role of the team’s top cornerback for the departed Nnamdi Asomugha. Third-round pick DeMarcus Van Dyke, who has impressed and can hold his own in man coverage, could be an early contributor. He’s a young guy with talent who gets to learn the ins and outs of the game from a Hall of Famer in Rod Woodson, the Raiders cornerback coach.
Impact special teams can make
The third phase of the game is often overlooked, but the Raiders have a great punter (Shane Lechler), kicker (Sebastian Janikowski) and return man (Jacoby Ford).
Special teams can make a difference in close games, just ask the Chargers. The Raiders went 6-0 in the division last season in part because of what the unit provided.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Mistic,
How many teams did Al have to compete with to secure Saunders?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:26 am
NM89 = Wes Welker, right?
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August 16th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Brandon Allen looks good at the plate, and first base. Do we finally have some power and an excting young player. september cant come soon enough. weeks taylor, carter and allen for sure, maybe jai miller as well.
Next years team will have a complete over haul. Green & Gold
August 16th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Sorry to disappoint you Mistic but my life is great and I will be at every game this year rooting for the Raiders not Kim Newton!
Where will you be?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:28 am
349.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Well, Al Saunders wasn’t exactly a big name being thrown around. He’s a good guy and a decent assistant coach, but it’s not like nabbing Parcells…or Gruden (ouch. you know that hurts).
As far as all of this chemistry between he and Hue…it would all be great if they didn’t work for an owner who purposely pits his coaches against each other.
Long story short…we’ve heard all this before.
Jackson/Saunders: 2 losing seasons, gone.
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HAHA we know MR you want us to have losing seasons…..what else do you live for?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:28 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Raiders more than $5 million under salary cap.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
August 16th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Sorry to disappoint you Mistic but my life is great and I will be at every game this year rooting for the Raiders not Kim Newton!
Where will you be?
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Do you know what I am saying?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I read all the hype on Moore, and I see that he can get it done. So why is he stuck on the depth chart as a backup?
It’s time to turn the page and accept that what we had at WR last year was not getting it done. No more waiting for some of our ‘talented’ wideouts to ‘develop’.
We need the here and now. Here and now, I see Moore making plays and moving the chains. I’ll take an ounce of productivity over a pound of potential.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:30 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Mistic,
How many teams did Al have to compete with to secure Saunders?
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How could anyone outside of saunders and his agent truly know that?
Suanders always has options he is one of the most suahgt after football minds in the biz. You didnt know that?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:30 am
354.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Well, Al Saunders wasn’t exactly a big name being thrown around. He’s a good guy and a decent assistant coach, but it’s not like nabbing Parcells…or Gruden (ouch. you know that hurts).
=================================
WE INTERUPT THIS PROGRAM FOR BREAKING NEWS….
Al suanders is a big name coach and one of the legends of this generation. maybe you have heard of the the greatest show on turf, or air coryell.
he is responsible for some of the most prolific offenses in football history.
what are you talking about?
Is this gradkowski raider cross posting again?
Your boy sucked in his cincy debut!!!! Looked like he was lost
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Wait he beat the World Champs in 09 with Troy Polamalu…dont ya know he is headed for greatness? He brings energy and fire…not talent or winning ability but energy and fire
August 16th, 2011 at 10:31 am
hagans and Bodiford, and Mcgee al are having great camps…
The coaches will keep the best players thats what i hope
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If Hue Jackson keeps Nick Miller on the roster instead of Derek Hagan or grabbing Terrell Owens in FA for like $1 million per season, he should be fired like yesterday!
the passing game was GARBAGE last season and lil nicky was the worst of that crew
Langston Walker & Mario Henderson got the boot. why not white webster?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Mistic, you said Saunders is a big name coach. Just curious, how many teams did Al have to outbid to secure him?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:31 am
382.guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I read all the hype on Moore, and I see that he can get it done. So why is he stuck on the depth chart as a backup?
It’s time to turn the page and accept that what we had at WR last year was not getting it done. No more waiting for some of our ‘talented’ wideouts to ‘develop’.
We need the here and now. Here and now, I see Moore making plays and moving the chains. I’ll take an ounce of productivity over a pound of potential.
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Bet ya he starts Saturday
August 16th, 2011 at 10:32 am
386.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Mistic, you said Saunders is a big name coach. Just curious, how many teams did Al have to outbid to secure him?
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Saunders is highly respected in the NFL…if you dismiss that then you are dumber than we all thought
August 16th, 2011 at 10:32 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Sorry to disappoint you Mistic but my life is great and I will be at every game this year rooting for the Raiders not Kim Newton!
Where will you be?
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ill be on this blog kicking your a$$, as is customary when my boys beat you and the rest of the haters down this year.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I love this Blog its full of internet gangsters, wanna be smart guys and people who think they could be our GM.
Pure entertainment!
Thank you for providing my daily does of laughter!
August 16th, 2011 at 10:33 am
lol yall crazy
August 16th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Why the hate on Nick Miller? he outplays DHB every game, and gets paid 10% of DHB.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:33 am
MR…show up to a game
August 16th, 2011 at 10:33 am
BeAlwaysUrself,
How many teams did Al have to outbid to get Saunders?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:34 am
392.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Why the hate on Nick Miller? he outplays DHB every game, and gets paid 10% of DHB.
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So does everyone on earth
August 16th, 2011 at 10:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
the passing game was GARBAGE last season and lil nicky was the worst of that crew
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that’s what I’m talking about too. Out with the old and in with the new. We got some good competition in camp. Make the reward for that play be a real shot at making the team. And those who can’t keep from being ‘nicked’ get the hot ticket out of Dodge.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Sure hope Moore plays more downs during the reg season than “the decoy”.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:35 am
394.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:33 am
BeAlwaysUrself,
How many teams did Al have to outbid to get Saunders?
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A million
August 16th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I mean, Al Saunders is a big name coach. The inventor of the “best show on turf”. (one SB victory…that was less than a yard from not happening).
So, you’d think Al would have had to outbid a few other teams to secure him, right? I mean, as an offensive coordinator, to boot! Saunders is clearly head coach material. So, who’d we out bid to get him?
BeAlwaysUrself, Mistic, waiting…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:35 am
“when my boys beat you and the rest of the haters down this year.”
Who are your boys and when will they play the Raiders?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I love this Blog its full of internet gangsters, wanna be smart guys and people who think they could be our GM.
Pure entertainment!
Thank you for providing my daily does of laughter!
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dont forget you rep the Castro District on the blog…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I really dont care if Nick Miller sticks or not. I think its time to let Chaz go. Kid cant stay healthy, shame really.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Misitc just come to a game and B@uce will buy you a beer and I will smoke a fatty with you.
Peace
Do you know what I am saying B@uce?
August 16th, 2011 at 10:37 am
666, what do you do for a living? Its tough these days, are you working???
August 16th, 2011 at 10:38 am
I answered u dummy
August 16th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Why the hate on Saunders? id rather have him than friggin bed & breakfast. Still, Hue is the manager of the offense, with Saunders helping out…My concern is the D! Chuk loved to pull the Ol prevent D during his last stint here.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:39 am
BCZ: Nick Miller is not eligible for the practice squad. You have to have been active for less than 9 games.
ROG: Ive never seen him active one game
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LOL!
August 16th, 2011 at 10:39 am
403.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Misitc just come to a game and B@uce will buy you a beer and I will smoke a fatty with you.
Peace
Do you know what I am saying B@uce?
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Yes yes I think I know what you are saying
August 16th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:22 am
now you cant read.
Wow this is getting funnier by the minute. I said I never invited you into my conversation with Mistic not that you were not invited to this Blog.
Any tard can post on this blog Einstein you don’t need to be invited.
Try reading first before opening your mouth it might serve you well.
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So one needs to be “invited” to join a convo???ROFLMAO…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:40 am
406.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Why the hate on Saunders? id rather have him than friggin bed & breakfast. Still, Hue is the manager of the offense, with Saunders helping out…My concern is the D! Chuk loved to pull the Ol prevent D during his last stint here.
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MR hates on any offense that isnt the dink and dunk funk WCO
August 16th, 2011 at 10:42 am
With all the blog convo’s tht take place where are all the invites???lol
RR, did you invite me into your Nick miller disscussion? ROFLMAO….
Invite one into a blog convo…thats priceless…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Thec07 your feeble attempts at homosexual humor are weak.
Better keep your day job evaluating software.
Here is a hint….when someone makes a gay joke directed towards you don’t use the same material when trying to respond, get creative, the whole Castro thing overdone.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:43 am
MR Hates anything and anyone associated with the Raiders.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Hey everybody I am having a convo with Mystic about Kim Newton, you need to be invited to speak on it….lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:43 am
First, I think we have one of the top HC’s in the league in Hue Jackson. Cable wouldn’t have ever made anyones short list for a HC position, but for the grace of Al, he gets the part.
So like I said, Hue is going to be one of the best HC’s – just my gut – but you’ll see. Al Saunders is responsible for some great offenses and his playbook is thicker than war and peace. I love the coaching staff in place on the offense. Not totally with Bresnahan as our DC – hope he doesn’t go all prevent D.
But offensive coaching for the first time in awhile, I give the Raiders an edge against most teams.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Chuck Bresnahan will cost us 3 games this year with the “rush 2 guys” prevent D with 4 minutes left.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Dumbest sh!T i ever read on this blog next to MR’s rants is you have to be invited to a convo on a blog…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Thec07 your feeble attempts at homosexual humor are weak.
Better keep your day job evaluating software.
Here is a hint….when someone makes a gay joke directed towards you don’t use the same material when trying to respond, get creative, the whole Castro thing overdone.
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All of your post sugguest it…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Thec07
I was arguing with Mistic and you came to his rescue like you are his mom.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
No need to get all riled up over it.
I was just asking what is the connection between you two, is it a man love or are you a relative?
Simple question.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:47 am
413.bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:43 am
MR Hates anything and anyone associated with the Raiders.
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Truth
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:47 am
is it a man love ?
Simple question.
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a simply gey question
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I think Chuck is a stopgap solution as D-Coord while R.Woodson is groomed for the position. Chuck wont last 2 seasons.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:41 am
“Thats your perspective and opinion…you are entitled no matter how un read you are…”
This coming from the guy who cant spell and who’s grammar is that of a 4th grade level.
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I was not coming at you, you came at me first…
So why did you comment on somenting that was directed to someone else un invited…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Funny but it seems like I touched a nerve with Thec07!
You are all wound up Cujo.
For a guy who claims he is stable he sure gets upset over words on a computer screen.
You are now spending your time writing angry posts about me instead of evaluating your software.
Get back to work Mr I am important and stop spending your time meekly grasping for jab at me.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Thec. .. grow up dude. …… if I told u nobody cares what u say… obviously you know and we know Its only You’re opinion… nobody in the organization cares what you say either. .. stop acting like a fool bro. . Your stating the obvious.. ……everything we say here is only an opinion
August 16th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:47 am
is it a man love ?
Simple question.
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a simply gey question
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ROFLMAO…dude or her has his or her pannies in a bundle…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:53 am
ghostraiders Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Thec. .. grow up dude. …… if I told u nobody cares what u say… obviously you know and we know Its only You’re opinion… nobody in the organization cares what you say either. .. stop acting like a fool bro. . Your stating the obvious.. ……everything we say here is only an opinion
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You said BCAMBPELL was a bust based on what???
August 16th, 2011 at 10:54 am
ghostraiders Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Thec. .. grow up dude. …… if I told u nobody cares what u say… obviously you know and we know Its only You’re opinion… nobody in the organization cares what you say either. .. stop acting like a fool bro. . Your stating the obvious.. ……everything we say here is only an opinion
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You have never seen BCAMPBELL and he is coming off an injury he sustained before camp and you say bust….Really, how???
August 16th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Let it go little man you are getting weaker by the minute with your poorly written posts and your inability to make any sense.
I see your angry and my words effect you in a manner that you now cannot do your work.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:54 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I mean, Al Saunders is a big name coach. The inventor of the “best show on turf”. (one SB victory…that was less than a yard from not happening).
So, you’d think Al would have had to outbid a few other teams to secure him, right? I mean, as an offensive coordinator, to boot! Saunders is clearly head coach material. So, who’d we out bid to get him?
BeAlwaysUrself, Mistic, waiting…
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Sadkowski this is impossible to know. None of us have an inside track with his agent.
I would be willing to bet a man with his resume can get a job almost anywhere he wants as an oc or consultant.
You dont have to be a head coaching candidate to justify being one of the greatest ocs’ in football.
What he has accomplished as an oc is above reproach. regardless of what you think about him as potential head coach material
August 16th, 2011 at 10:55 am
B Campbell is a draft-combine hero. Period.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Funny but it seems like I touched a nerve with Thec07!
You are all wound up Cujo.
For a guy who claims he is stable he sure gets upset over words on a computer screen.
You are now spending your time writing angry posts about me instead of evaluating your software.
Get back to work Mr I am important and stop spending your time meekly grasping for jab at me.
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Actually 666, I am in my office laugh my ass off….
If one looks at the post will realize who is spun….
lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I can bet Al got Chuck dirt cheap! he was fired from the Florida Tuskers! LOL!
August 16th, 2011 at 10:57 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:35 am
“when my boys beat you and the rest of the haters down this year.”
Who are your boys and when will they play the Raiders?
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JC is my boy, and he plays for the raiders. He is going to kick your a$$ this year.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Let it go little man you are getting weaker by the minute with your poorly written posts and your inability to make any sense.
I see your angry and my words effect you in a manner that you now cannot do your work.
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I see you 666, you tuck tai when you are wrong…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Ghostraiders
He claims he is grown up and has a real job evaluating software.
Real meaning: (In His mothers basement playing the new World of Warcraft demo)
August 16th, 2011 at 10:58 am
666, you came at me first I responded now you tuck tail are you sure you are a RAIDER??? ou seem suspect…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Ghostraiders
He claims he is grown up and has a real job evaluating software.
Real meaning: (In His mothers basement playing the new World of Warcraft demo)
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Now looking for a vco-signer…hahahaha…to funny…
August 16th, 2011 at 10:59 am
“you tuck tai”
Sounds like you are speaking Vietnamese?
You sir are a man of many talents!
August 16th, 2011 at 10:59 am
kapernick looked over whelmed and over matched in his debut, that qb situation is a complete joke. Pep would be an upgrade
August 16th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:59 am
“you tuck tai”
Sounds like you are speaking Vietnamese?
You sir are a man of many talents!
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lol….
August 16th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 10:59 am
kapernick looked over whelmed and over matched in his debut, that qb situation is a complete joke. Pep would be an upgrade
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Yeah, he is going to need sometime to develop…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:02 am
666, check it I am done with the name calling back and forth with you man. If I offended you in any way my bad. i would rather talk NATION than go back and forth over non sense….
August 16th, 2011 at 11:06 am
On offense, they Huey and Saunders need to score TD’s and not settle for FG’s….PERIOD!
Pre season game or no pre season game!
Beat the WHINERS!!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Tank johnson & arron maybin are free. Maybin clearly struggled in buffalo, could he add depth to our lbs in a 4-3? could he transition to outside lb in our scheme?
Tank johnson could definitely add depth but we are crowded at dt, im not sure who i would play him in front of. he is also a bit of a knuckle head.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Maybin is way too light. Report i read he was 228 lbs…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Maybin clearly struggled in buffalo, could he add depth to our lbs in a 4-3? could he transition to outside lb in our scheme?
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no & no
August 16th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Why the hate on Nick Miller? he outplays DHB every game, and gets paid 10% of DHB.
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LOL!
Come on, Macho.
When has white webster EVER outplayed DHB?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Veldheer looks like he has really grown into his role at tackle. His name wasnt mentioned once during the game and thats a good thing. he completely dominated porter. Some will say it doesnt matter because porter isnt what he used to be. I look at as a postive, given the trouble veldeheer had with speed guys last year.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Maybin is 228 lbs and not a natural LB. Struggled as a 3-4 OLB transitioning from a 4-3 DE position. No way he could cut it at 4-3 DE now that he’s lost about 40lbs, and I don’t think he’s showed anything to indicate he has the instincts to be an OLB in a system where he’s expected to drop into coverage frequently.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:13 am
# Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Maybin is way too light. Report i read he was 228 lbs…
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228?!?!?!?!
he should try ice skating
August 16th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Oakseymourglen just cannot behave himself
August 16th, 2011 at 11:14 am
he should try ice skating
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roflmao…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:14 am
for the record i am not a fan of maybin or johnson.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:15 am
DKnight007 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:06 am
On offense, they Huey and Saunders need to score TD’s and not settle for FG’s….PERIOD!
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Truth….And we will
August 16th, 2011 at 11:15 am
I really dont care if Nick Miller sticks or not. I think its time to let Chaz go. Kid cant stay healthy, shame really.
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Macho,
If Chaz receives an injury settlement right now, when Hue Jackson said he’s week to week and due back soon … who does that give an extra roster spot to?
Nick Miller? Shaun Bodiford? no thanks
5 games of fragile Chaz is more receptions, yards & TD’s than you’ll get from 16 games of those others clowns. go get Terrell Owens in free agency if you’re serious about replacing Mr. Glass
August 16th, 2011 at 11:16 am
RR, what about hagans and Mcgee?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Great to hear Ausbery is having a great camp. That was one sweet catch on the corner route against the Cards. Can’t teach that…you either have that ability and awareness or don’t. Wouldn’t want to be a LB or safety trying to match up on that dude. Maybe we’ll dump either Miller or Schillens (if he can’t stay healthy) and keep the Aus. That would let us keep Brock as third TE. We’ll need a blocking TE if Boss gets hurt.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:18 am
did you invite me into your Nick miller disscussion?
Invite one into a blog convo…thats priceless…
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Thec,
you’re always invited bro. you know that
we don’t always agree on every topic or every player, but this blog would be pretty dull & boring if everybody agreed on everything, right?
debate on!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:20 am
TO will never play a down…i’ll injure him RRS…why wish bad on that man?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Besides…Another big red-zone target can’t hurt can it?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Yeah…Forget about TO. We might have a younger, far more sane version in Aus anyway.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I say Hagan made a good catch, but what was it that made him fall to the turf. Sorry, only saw that play once. But the bad thing about that was that we couldn’t punch it in and we actually settled for a 21 yard FG from Jano? I guess HueJack wants to make sure that he doesn’t miss another chip shot…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Thec07
I am a fan and I love going to the games. I will buy you a beer at any game because I enjoy all Raider fans even the ones that do not agree with my opinions.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 am
…and what’s the deal with Chad Jackson? How did he fall out of favor with Bellicheat?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Great to hear Ausbery is having a great camp. That was one sweet catch on the corner route against the Cards. Can’t teach that…you either have that ability and awareness or don’t.
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Agree! And it’ll be a crime if Aus doesn’t make the team. Production > potential
August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Hwnrdr: Gotta practice the boring stuff too…ie: short field goals.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:25 am
666…do you tailgate and what lot are you in?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:26 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I say Hagan made a good catch, but what was it that made him fall to the turf. Sorry, only saw that play once. But the bad thing about that was that we couldn’t punch it in and we actually settled for a 21 yard FG from Jano? I guess HueJack wants to make sure that he doesn’t miss another chip shot…
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Only saw it once myself. What I saw was that Hagan had to catch up to the pass and lost his stride and balance, but that was some concentration and hands to get that catch.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:26 am
467.CanuckRaider Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Hwnrdr: Gotta practice the boring stuff too…ie: short field goals.
I guess so…lol, but I would have loved to see them either punch it in, or see what the D can do with the Cards backed up on the 1 or 2…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Mistic, if Saunders is so great, why isn’t anyone interested in him as a HC?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Thanks Guest!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I can bet Al got Chuck dirt cheap! he was fired from the Florida Tuskers!
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Macho,
Chuck B was actually promoted from LB Coach to DC with the Florida Tuskers. nobody fired him.
Al Davis & Hue Jackson have both worked with him before. he was not a hot candidate for any position coach or coordinator job elsewhere in the NFL, but that doesn’t change the fact he was hand selected for the Raiders gig. His previous Raiders DC tenure received mixed reviews. 2 really good years and 2 really awful years. We’ll see what this year brings
Hopefully tons of sacks with Mike Waufle & crew and nothing that ever resembles a prevent defense!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:27 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I say Hagan made a good catch, but what was it that made him fall to the turf. Sorry, only saw that play once. But the bad thing about that was that we couldn’t punch it in and we actually settled for a 21 yard FG from Jano? I guess HueJack wants to make sure that he doesn’t miss another chip shot…
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Underthrown ball. Had to pull up and make a play for it. Should have been a TD if the QB (forgot if it was Edwards or Boller at that point) led him a little more.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:27 am
10 days 23 and a half hours untill draft day for Gels world championship FF
August 16th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Thec07
I am a fan and I love going to the games. I will buy you a beer at any game because I enjoy all Raider fans even the ones that do not agree with my opinions.
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Agreed… However, “talk tai” speaking vietmanese that was a good one Bruh…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Yeah, the Aus could be a great threat up the middle.
As for Chad Jackson; I wasn’t impressed with him at all…On one play he just stood still and watched the DB break up a pass intended for him. Didn’t try to fight for it even though he had plenty of time too.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Maybe Saunders was pursued by other teams and he chose to come here…Well, maybe…can’t really answer that one… All I know is if he replicates the Greatest Show on Turf, well, in our case will be on Dirt for a while, then I am all for him coming here, no matter who did or did not pursue him.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:29 am
#470: I hear ya on that…Guess that’s why we’re not coaching in the bigs…Lol.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:29 am
RR, if nick miller gets the boot for Hagans I am okay with it. I am scared of McGee…He does have the size and is a former college QB and does not have the tenure at playing the position in my opinion.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:31 am
hwnrdr
Yes I tailgate in the D section of the parking lot with the “Cliffs Corner Crew” I sit in section 141.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:32 am
I loved Moore’s enthusiasm on that 26 yard catch, but I don’t see what he was so frustrated about. He pounded the ball into the turf as if he knew if he’d broken the other way he’d have had a touchdown. I can’t see what the camera angles don’t show on TV. Is there anyone who can explain what Moore thought he saw?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:32 am
I wonder if the raiders decide to carry t.e…. Ausberry is looking really good…. I hope to see more Boss on Saturday vs the sorry 49rs
August 16th, 2011 at 11:32 am
TO will never play a down
Forget about TO. We might have a younger, far more sane version in Aus anyway
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ROG: Owens wouldn’t steal any snaps from Murphy, Ford, Moore or DHB? alright bro. It’s not even noon in Cali and I can tell you’re sauced
Canuck: Ausberry is a pass catching TE in Oakland – like Zach Miller was. Has nothing to do with Owens. NADA
August 16th, 2011 at 11:32 am
All I know is if he replicates the Greatest Show on Turf
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Translation, he knows how to use weopons, and get the most bang for buck…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Agreed Hwnrdr…Saunders is a brilliant OC. He also played a big part in the success of “Air Coryell” back in the ’80s. Our offense is going to explode this year with great coaching and a wealth of weapons!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:33 am
I am in D lot also, usually about 10-15 rows back in front of Oracle. Cliff;s Corner Crew? I’ll have to look for that, 666. I sit in 130.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:33 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Mistic, if Saunders is so great, why isn’t anyone interested in him as a HC?
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First of all you dont know that to be a fact.
2nd, you dont have to be an hc candidate to be an excellent oc.
3rd he has been a head coach in the nfl.
dont ask me to repeat this. He is a great OC….end of story
August 16th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Yo GhostRaider, if I offended you in any way my bad.
I dont like going at RAIDERS.
We can agree to disagree…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:34 am
“Best Show On Turf” = 1 SB victory. And…they were within one yard of losing it.
Also, I just find it interesting that despite Saunders being so great (according to you guys), there was hardly any interest in him by other teams.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Thec07
Yeah the Vietnamese comment was kind of funny.
Have you been to the Vietnamese coffee shop on Tully in San Jose?
They serve coffee in bikini’s
August 16th, 2011 at 11:36 am
He is a great OC….end of story
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agree! take a poll, show of hands?
Now how about our DC, take a poll show of hands?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:37 am
All their talking about on 710 espn l.a. is how their getting the chargers. .. pathetic.. no one in l.a. gives a crap…. screw the chargers.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:37 am
guest123 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:32 am
I loved Moore’s enthusiasm on that 26 yard catch, but I don’t see what he was so frustrated about. He pounded the ball into the turf as if he knew if he’d broken the other way he’d have had a touchdown. I can’t see what the camera angles don’t show on TV. Is there anyone who can explain what Moore thought he saw?
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What I thought I saw was if he had turned it up imediatly he would have gotten more yards out of the play. him taking the direction he took had a lot to do with the direction of his route.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:37 am
if nick miller gets the boot for Hagans I am okay with it. I am scared of McGee…He does have the size and is a former college QB and does not have the tenure at playing the position in my opinion
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thec,
McGee could be a less injury prone Ronald Curry. who knows?
We could use him on a few trick plays too, if he makes the roster. We already know what we have in white webster and it isn’t much
I would dump him for Hagan or McGee in a heartbeat
August 16th, 2011 at 11:38 am
No interest in Saunders from other teams, not even as an OC….let alone a HC. Doesn’t sound too “great” to me. I like the guy. I just think some of you are talking him up way too much though.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:38 am
What I thought I saw was if he had turned it up imediatly he would have gotten more yards out of the play. him taking the direction he took had a lot to do with the direction of his route.
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So, it was a pass thrown to the wrong shoulder and it led him sideways instead of upfield. Is this JCamp’s fault?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
#484: What I meant was that he offers a great size/speed receiver who’ll also be a great red-zone target. I’m well aware that he’ll play TE. We don’t need Owens. We have lots of good young talent at WR…Ford, Murphy, Moore, Schillens if he can stay healthy and yes, even DHB who I think will be much improved this year. No need for a 35? year old receiver with a trunk-load of mental baggage.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
YOU R NOT GOING 2 MAKE THE JETS GAME HWNRDR ?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
No doubt football fans in L.A. want the Raiders. But the investors involved with this know better than to bring Al Davis in. It would be a disaster. The fans just don’t realize that. It’s just a case of father knows best.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Thec07
Yeah the Vietnamese comment was kind of funny.
Have you been to the Vietnamese coffee shop on Tully in San Jose?
They serve coffee in bikini’s
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yo i am still laughing at that one…
I moved form the bat about 15 years ago to San Diego… Coffee in a bikini that would be on point…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Fair enough bro…. don’t worry about it.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:40 am
490.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:34 am
“Best Show On Turf” = 1 SB victory. And…they were within one yard of losing it.
Also, I just find it interesting that despite Saunders being so great (according to you guys), there was hardly any interest in him by other teams.
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Says who? Your dumbass? lol
August 16th, 2011 at 11:41 am
No interest in Saunders from other teams, not even as an OC….let alone a HC. Doesn’t sound too “great” to me. I like the guy. I just think some of you are talking him up way too much though.
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Not really, Hue still is calling the shots on offense. Saunders provides the cookbook and Hue does the cooking.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:41 am
So, it was a pass thrown to the wrong shoulder and it led him sideways instead of upfield. Is this JCamp’s fault?
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Naw JCAMP thew a dart…It was just the route coupled with the D placement, he could have gtten more had he turned it up field quickly…He chose to continue across the field…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Sullivan. … what’s funny is that when the chargers play their first game at home vs the raiders. .. their going to think they are playing in Oakland. ..LOL
August 16th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tennessee was one yard from either winning with a two point (was it even in effect during 99/00?) conversion or tying it and going into OT. However, they also could have failed the 2 point try…But I have to admit, that was one of the best SB’s in the last 15 years, next to the Giants stealing the perfect season from New England!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Hwnrdr
You are close to where I tailgate.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:43 am
The Broncos defensive line is in trouble
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 16, 2011, 2:19 PM EDT
We mentioned Tuesday morning that Broncos free agent pickup Ty Warren could have a serious triceps injury.
Denver’s worst fears were realized: Warren tore his triceps muscle, which usually knocks a player out for the season. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports the Broncos are “discussing options” about what to do and have “not given up” on the chance Warren could play this year.
(Which means there is a good chance Warren won’t play.)
Warren was expected to start next to Marcus Thomas, who was also hurt Monday. He will miss the rest of the preseason with a strained pectoral muscle, but hopes to be ready for the season opener.
Yeah, it’s a safe bet the Raiders are going to run the ball plenty in Week One.
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Gonna be a beatdown on opening night in Denver. Wish they’d start Tebow.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Somebody please post one link to any article about any NFL team other than the Raiders showing even a shred of interest in Saunders this off season. Please. I just want to see it. Every single coaching and coordinator rumor circulates SOMEWHERE on the web. So, provide one link. Just one. That’s all I ask for, guys.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:43 am
We mentioned Tuesday morning that Broncos free agent pickup Ty Warren could have a serious triceps injury.
Denver’s worst fears were realized: Warren tore his triceps muscle, which usually knocks a player out for the season. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports the Broncos are “discussing options” about what to do and have “not given up” on the chance Warren could play this year.
(Which means there is a good chance Warren won’t play.)
Warren was expected to start next to Marcus Thomas, who was also hurt Monday. He will miss the rest of the preseason with a strained pectoral muscle, but hopes to be ready for the season opener.
Yeah, it’s a safe bet the Raiders are going to run the ball plenty in Week One.
-PFT
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Kool-Aid splash, anyone?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Gonna be a beatdown on opening night in Denver. Wish they’d start Tebow.
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Over under 40
August 16th, 2011 at 11:44 am
500.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
No doubt football fans in L.A. want the Raiders. But the investors involved with this know better than to bring Al Davis in. It would be a disaster. The fans just don’t realize that. It’s just a case of father knows best.
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Some do not all
August 16th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Dirt Lot…as of right now, no, I have to work that game!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:46 am
thec,
McGee could be a less injury prone Ronald Curry. who knows?
We could use him on a few trick plays too, if he makes the roster. We already know what we have in white webster and it isn’t much
I would dump him for Hagan or McGee in a heartbeat
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You are a cold ruthless muthaFckr…lol
August 16th, 2011 at 11:47 am
The brains behind an LA NFL team will never allow Al Davis in. No matter how bad either the fans or the local radio jocks want it. Nobody is partnering with Al Davis anymore. No one, anywhere. Al Davis, as long as he’s involved with any decision making with the Raiders, is playing right in that coliseum. The NFL powers are leaving him on that island until he’s gone.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Gonna be a beatdown on opening night in Denver. Wish they’d start Tebow.
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Debo,
It will be a BEATDOWN with Orton in the starting lineup, but it wouldn’t be with Tebow.
In fact, we may see Tebow in this game due to an Orton injury or poor performance in the 2nd half.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Naw JCAMP thew a dart…It was just the route coupled with the D placement, he could have gtten more had he turned it up field quickly…He chose to continue across the field…
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I think he was being a little too hard on himself there. The D collapsed around him and he still made some good moves to get upfield and tack on some extra yards. I think he probably overestimated the pursuit and took the safe yards, but afterwards, thought, “man, I’m faster than these dudes, I should’ve broken off my route and turned inside. You can see his instincts in the open field on that long punt return that got called back. Moore has the ability to head right at the would-be tackler, and then hit that split gear, leaving the guy in the dust, and then he’s gone. He needs to be even more aggressive on his routes and test the defenders. He’s gonna break off some huge TD’s like Jacoby Ford did last year. He’s got talent in spades.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:47 am
#507: Yeah that Giants win was sweet. I was just about to shut off the TV and turn the tunes on when the Giants scored. I said to myself, “Well, I’ll just watch a bit more”. Good thing I hung in there. That game was a case of the “football gods” looking down and saying “I don’t think so cheaters” for sure.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I just hope what I saw comes to past…If it does we will win a whole lot of games…
All you guys enjoy your day…RAIDER NATION…
August 16th, 2011 at 11:48 am
You are a cold ruthless
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Y ???
August 16th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Oh yeah…No ring for quitter Randy either…Just as sweet.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:51 am
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2011/01/al_saunders_has_been_contacted_by_two_teams.html
August 16th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Canuck,
More like the NFL Gods downing the patriots to separate themselves from video-gate. Any other year, there’s a PI penalty on at least one of those hail marys Brady throws at the end.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:52 am
510.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Somebody please post one link to any article about any NFL team other than the Raiders showing even a shred of interest in Saunders this off season. Please. I just want to see it. Every single coaching and coordinator rumor circulates SOMEWHERE on the web. So, provide one link. Just one. That’s all I ask for, guys.
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You post a link saying no other teams wanted him then
August 16th, 2011 at 11:52 am
516.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:47 am
The brains behind an LA NFL team will never allow Al Davis in. No matter how bad either the fans or the local radio jocks want it. Nobody is partnering with Al Davis anymore. No one, anywhere. Al Davis, as long as he’s involved with any decision making with the Raiders, is playing right in that coliseum. The NFL powers are leaving him on that island until he’s gone.
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Who cares you lil b-tch?
August 16th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Yup I agree…When Moss caught that TD pass, I was screaming at the tv. I’m glad that Eli Manning did his best Houdinin act and Tyree glued the ball to his helomet and not let go! That was sweet seeing both Moss and Brady walk off field sulking!
August 16th, 2011 at 11:54 am
lol. 523. All that link proves is that THE RAIDERS WERE INTERESTED IN SAUNDERS. They don’t name the other team. Could have easily been Saunders’ agent or whatever that fed them the “other team” nonsense. So far, only the Raiders are on record as having shown interest in Saunders. Give me a break.
Still waiting. One link that lists an actual team other than the Raiders that was interested in Saunders. No “secrete teams”. lol. It has to actually name the team.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Hear ya Sullivan44. B.O. Bill and his cheaters got far too many breaks for far too long. Karma got ‘em in the end.
Later Nation…Have a great one.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I don’t even think it was karma, Canuck. Think it was the NFL just covering their own butts. Video-gate was heating up right around that time. The NFL had to at least make it look like they weren’t in the Patriot’s pocket.
August 16th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Al Saunders heart was here….thats all that matters
August 16th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Cam Newton’s offense went 1 of 13 on 3rd downs with him in the game.
Spectacular!!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Al Saunders was unwanted. There’s nothing “great” about him. “Greatest Show on Turf”…one SB victory…and barely. They won by one yard, literally. That’s not domination. A lot of people still believe the Titans were the better team.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“Al Saunders heart was here….thats all that matters”
I think I know what you are saying.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Also, I just find it interesting that despite Saunders being so great (according to you guys), there was hardly any interest in him by other teams.
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Can you prove this statement? or are you just spewing a bunch of unfounded garbage as usual?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
530.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I don’t even think it was karma, Canuck. Think it was the NFL just covering their own butts. Video-gate was heating up right around that time. The NFL had to at least make it look like they weren’t in the Patriot’s pocket.
******************wrong dummy…josh mcdaniels passed the ball over 50 times and ran it like 12 in the SB….thats why they lost…Giants were ready for that bs
August 16th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Love this post!
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Wait, I thought we ran some type of mix power-blocking scheme last year??
So which way is it? Hue Jackson brought in a revised power-blocking scheme that Carlisle thrived in (didn’t miss one offensive play last year) or Cable’s ZBS manhandled the NFL?
Remember, Al stole Carlisle from the Baltimore Ravens the year we picked him up. The Ravens announced the signing on their website as their new starting guard, until Al grabbed him in the 11th hour.
The Ravens, to my knowledge, never have run the ZBS.
Cooper Carlisle is fine. Our most durable O-lineman, as well as our least penalized.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
533.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Al Saunders was unwanted. There’s nothing “great” about him. “Greatest Show on Turf”…one SB victory…and barely. They won by one yard, literally. That’s not domination. A lot of people still believe the Titans were the better team.
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Dummy people work a lifetime for just one super bowl…ask marino about just one super bowl or even tim brown….dumbass comments as usual
August 16th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Mistic, I’m still waiting on one single link that actually lists an NFL team other than the Raiders that was interested in Saunders. Until that happens, why shouldn’t I assume that nobody else wanted him?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Cam Newton 66 rating against the 2nd unit, “Spectacular!”
August 16th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Cooper Carlisle? lol
August 16th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Cam Newton’s offense went 1 of 13 on 3rd downs with him in the game.
Spectacular!!!!!
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The stats are not the story. the way he commanded the huddle made his reads and threw from the pocket in his first nfl game is.
1 for 13 on third down tells me the second team he was running with are pretty weak. I watched the game and he made some spectacular throws.
I know you cant stand Cam, but he is the real deal.
JFB you can use that hater ade to wash down the crow your going to eat.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Carlisle is not it people…..zone blocker is why Al nabbed him last second. COOP KNEW POWER scheme in bmore wasnt a fit eventhough they just came off a 13-3 season! Think about it….we all know when we are licked and Coop knew power wasnt gonna work in long run. Who choses a 2-14 team with a rookie head coach over a team stacked with pro bowlers and a SB WINNING COACH? Use your brains people
August 16th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Oh, and “unnamed team” doesn’t count. The article has to actually name the team. Agents and what not aren’t above feeding to the press that “unnamed teams” are interested in their client. It’s an old trick. No team name, no team. Still waiting.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
539.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Mistic, I’m still waiting on one single link that actually lists an NFL team other than the Raiders that was interested in Saunders. Until that happens, why shouldn’t I assume that nobody else wanted him?
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When you assume you make an ass……..well MR you do that without assuming so i guess lol
August 16th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
You asked, I provided. Troll on, MR. Troll on.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
There is no comparison between newton and troy smith, other that the fact they are both black qbs’ and are mobile.
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The biggest comparision is that we have this IMPOSTER RAIDER FAN, GOING ON A RAIDER BLOG AND SLOBBERING OVER A CAROLINA PANTHER QB, AND EVEN WORST SPENT TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR SLOBBERING OVER A SAN FRANCISCO 49ER QB, WHO IS NOW OUT OF THE LEAGUE.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Al Saunders wanted to be here….that’s all that matters….you act like a lil brat…”mommy he gotta bike I WANT ONE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH”…..you act like a btch and you are a coward….i’ll knock your teeth down your throat for breakfast boy
August 16th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Cam Newton’s offense went 1 of 13 on 3rd downs with him in the game.
Spectacular!!!!!
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craptacular!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
You provided a link that only listed one team that was interested in Saunders, Young American. The Raiders. That’s it. The only other team mentioned was a “no name” team.
Hey, YoungAmerican, 3 unnamed teams were interested in me as starting QB. I can’t name them. It’s top secret. Don’t believe me? Well, prove that it’s not true, then! Prove they didn’t want me!!! lol. That’s what you guys sound like.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Mistic, I’m still waiting on one single link that actually lists an NFL team other than the Raiders that was interested in Saunders. Until that happens, why shouldn’t I assume that nobody else wanted him?
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Because it would be foolish to assume that a coach of this caliber wouldn’t have interest across the league.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
B@uce we can agree to disagree on Cooper Carlisle.
I think he is our best and most experienced player on our O-Line.
You think he is a scab.
Maybe he is somewhere in between?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I watched the game, and I think Cam will be OK, maybe make a Pro Bowl or two, take the Panthers to a division title or two.
He looked OK, but he was far from spectacular. He had a guy wide open 20 feet in front of him for a TD, and he missed by 5 feet.
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan and plenty of others make that throw easily, when they are 15 years old.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
552.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
B@uce we can agree to disagree on Cooper Carlisle.
I think he is our best and most experienced player on our O-Line.
You think he is a scab.
Maybe he is somewhere in between?
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He is okay but not stout enough for power..if we ran zbs then yes
August 16th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Saunders is 3rd rate. You guys know it. BeAlwaysAnAss already conceded to it, saying, “he wanted to be here, that’s all that counts”. lol. Kind of like Joe Bugel. See you guys later.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
“The biggest comparision is that we have this IMPOSTER RAIDER FAN, GOING ON A RAIDER BLOG AND SLOBBERING OVER A CAROLINA PANTHER QB, AND EVEN WORST SPENT TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR SLOBBERING OVER A SAN FRANCISCO 49ER QB, WHO IS NOW OUT OF THE LEAGUE.”
I told him that he was all over Troy Smith last year but he denied it and asked me to pull old posts.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
People who are actually in the NFL have quite a bit of respect for Al Saunders. Are you in the NFL, MR?
How many teams did the Pats outbid for Belichick?
How many teams did the Steelers outbid for Tomlin?
How many teams did the Seahawks outbid for Cable?
More importantly, what difference does any of this make?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
The biggest comparision is that we have this IMPOSTER RAIDER FAN, GOING ON A RAIDER BLOG AND SLOBBERING OVER A CAROLINA PANTHER QB, AND EVEN WORST SPENT TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR SLOBBERING OVER A SAN FRANCISCO 49ER QB, WHO IS NOW OUT OF THE LEAGUE.
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JFB, your such a joke
You have an extreme dislike for newton jc and smith? hhmmmmmmm
These guys have three different types of games, i wonder what it could be that irks you about these guys?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
MR…what are you missing about he wanted to go to the RAIDERS? Other 31 teams mean schit then
August 16th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
It’s all about a fit for a coaching staff.
I personally think Saunders will be a good fit, and a great addition to the staff.
But HOF coaches and top-tier co-oridanators flop massively all the time, in all kinds of situations.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Troy Smith = out of the league
Soup = I’m starting to warm up to, as he is doing leadership things this season he has never done before
Cam = I just said he will make multiple Pro Bowls
Mistic1 = I hate him because he is black
August 16th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Just kidding
August 16th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
“The biggest comparision is that we have this IMPOSTER RAIDER FAN, GOING ON A RAIDER BLOG AND SLOBBERING OVER A CAROLINA PANTHER QB, AND EVEN WORST SPENT TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR SLOBBERING OVER A SAN FRANCISCO 49ER QB, WHO IS NOW OUT OF THE LEAGUE.”
I told him that he was all over Troy Smith last year but he denied it and asked me to pull old posts.
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Silver & Crack you dont have to lie to kick it
you accused me of calling smith a super star which i did not.
Stop trying to get JFB to cosign for you.
Newton has nothing to do with t smith. Even if i liked a player and he washed out, so what. it happens to every nfl executive as well, so why couldnt an ordinary fan be wrong form time to time as well.
having said that I am right about JC and newton, it will be proven on sundays
August 16th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Mistic never called Troy Smith a superstar.
He one-upped superstardom by calling him “the wave of the future”, lol.
I posted the link and his comments a few weeks ago. Coming on a Raider blog, a Raider fan, FROM OAKLAND, raving about about a SF 49er QB.
Pathetic!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Soup = I’m starting to warm up to, as he is doing leadership things this season he has never done before
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DONT EVEN TRY IT!!!!!!
You have already admitted that you will never accept him regardless of what he does on the field.
You are trying to leave yourself some wiggle room when the inevitable happens and JC tears it up this year.
You will not escape Tha Supavillain’s wrath when JC pummels you into the ground!!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
The Broncos defensive line is in trouble
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 16, 2011, 2:19 PM EDT
We mentioned Tuesday morning that Broncos free agent pickup Ty Warren could have a serious triceps injury.
Denver’s worst fears were realized: Warren tore his triceps muscle, which usually knocks a player out for the season. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports the Broncos are “discussing options” about what to do and have “not given up” on the chance Warren could play this year.
(Which means there is a good chance Warren won’t play.)
Warren was expected to start next to Marcus Thomas, who was also hurt Monday. He will miss the rest of the preseason with a strained pectoral muscle, but hopes to be ready for the season opener.
Yeah, it’s a safe bet the Raiders are going to run the ball plenty in Week One.
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LMFAO!!!!
Yeeeaaaahhhhhh Buuuuddddeeeeeeee!!!
They already know!
August 16th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
You have already admitted that you will never accept him regardless of what he does on the field.
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I never said that.
I said he “isn’t my cup of tea”. I like fiery QB’s, with leadership qualities and instant-impact winners.
You know, like Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, Sam Bradford and the actual “wave of the future” guys who stand in the pocket with rifle’s for arms and understand the extreme science of offensive football these days.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
555.Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Saunders is 3rd rate. You guys know it. BeAlwaysAnAss already conceded to it, saying, “he wanted to be here, that’s all that counts”. lol. Kind of like Joe Bugel. See you guys later.
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no logic with this at all…guy is an OC not a head coach and a respected OC
August 16th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
“I am right about JC and newton”
You are?
The season has not even started yet and you have Kim Newton revolutionizing the NFL already after one preseason game.
Yes you were all over Troy Smith last year weather or not you called him a super star or not you were praising him just like you are doing with Kim Newton now.
Stop trying to deny your own statements.
When Kim Newton gets a pro bowl invitation and Jason Campbell has won 10 games for us then you can come in here all high and mighty and claim you were right.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Mistic never called Troy Smith a superstar.
He one-upped superstardom by calling him “the wave of the future”, lol.
I posted the link and his comments a few weeks ago. Coming on a Raider blog, a Raider fan, FROM OAKLAND, raving about about a SF 49er QB.
Pathetic!!!
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Out of towner, you may not be aware but these are the teams that are on tv here in the bay, of course i watch them. I dont root for them, I hate them and i always have. watching them flail and flounder and flop brings me joy.
However i will always be a fan of qbs especially guys that have been told they couldnt play the position.
I watch as many college football games as possible then track them through thier pro careers. Smith is another on the list.
For the last time, the case i made was for mobile qbs’ being the wave of the future. I used t smith as an example.
If you need a better example see Eagle 7, he might win a super bowl this year.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
You have already admitted that you will never accept him regardless of what he does on the field.
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I never said that.
I said he “isn’t my cup of tea”. I like fiery QB’s, with leadership qualities and instant-impact winners.
You know, like Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, Sam Bradford and the actual “wave of the future” guys who stand in the pocket with rifle’s for arms and understand the extreme science of offensive football these days.
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are you getting blisters? I mean with all that back pedaling. Comical
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Mistic1,
You got to calm down brother.
Your “schtick” on here is to come in, starting firing off 5-6 paragraph posts, use all caps and exclamation points, and make extreme over the top comments.
-Troy Smith is the wave of the future
-Cam Newton was spectacular
-Bruce Gradkowski won’t ever play in the NFL
-DHB DESERVES more playing time than any other WR on the Raiders
None of these things are evenly remotely accurate.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
“I am right about JC and newton”
You are?
The season has not even started yet and you have Kim Newton revolutionizing the NFL already after one preseason game.
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Another Lie!!!! When have i ever said newton is revolutionizing the nfl?
This is what you do, just make stuff up?
pretty weak
August 16th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
“When have i ever said newton is revolutionizing the nfl?”
Going back to the archives now!
If I am right and I find one of your posts that claim Kim Newton is “Revolutionizing” the NFL you have to promise to not post in here for a week.
DEAL?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Mistic1,
You got to calm down brother.
Your “schtick” on here is to come in, starting firing off 5-6 paragraph posts, use all caps and exclamation points, and make extreme over the top comments.
-Troy Smith is the wave of the future
-Cam Newton was spectacular
-Bruce Gradkowski won’t ever play in the NFL
-DHB DESERVES more playing time than any other WR on the Raiders
None of these things are evenly remotely accurate.
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JFB,
mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future
newton was spectacular in his rookie debut
scabs is a back up languishing on the bench in the noodle armed capital of the world
outside of ford and dmoore, there is no other wr that should play as much as DHB
You dont like it? Who gives a damn
August 16th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
You dont like it? Who gives a damn
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Nobody, because nobody really reads your posts.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
“mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future”
WRONG!!!
No mobile QB has ever won a Super Bowl a pocket passer is what wins the big games.
Where do you come up with this stuff.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future
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Like who??
Mike Vick has emerged as a better player staying the pocket, and still hasn’t won a playoff game in almost 6 years.
What other mobile QB’s?? Big Ben I guess.
The wave of the future is Josh Freeman. Smart, big, rocekt-armed, pocket QB with a passion for film review and redeeming leadership qualities.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
“When have i ever said newton is revolutionizing the nfl?”
Going back to the archives now!
If I am right and I find one of your posts that claim Kim Newton is “Revolutionizing” the NFL you have to promise to not post in here for a week.
DEAL?
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Your wasting your time, i said he was revolutionizing the qb position. i made that statement while he was still at auburn.
It bothered you so much that this kid was having one of the greatest seasons in cfb history that you have been stuck on that statement ever since.
never have i said he was revolutionizing the nfl.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Cam = I just said he will make multiple Pro Bowls
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JFB,
are you serious?
JaMarcus Newton is being coached up by Ken Dorsey & Chris Weinke. didn’t you know?
PFT reported that yesterday
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
“mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future”
WRONG!!!
No mobile QB has ever won a Super Bowl a pocket passer is what wins the big games.
Where do you come up with this stuff.
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maybe you dont consider these guys mobile qbs’
stuabach, plunk, elway young, montana rodgers.
yep mobile qbs’ do get it done
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Atari Bigby to Seahawks…
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Mistic you have told me over 10 times in here before the CBA was signed that Kim Newton would “REVOLUTIONIZE” the NFL.
Now I need to know before I go digging if I can produce one of your posts that proves my point and you did in fact say that “Kim Newton would “REVOLUTIONIZE” the NFL.” you will take a week off from this blog.
Do we have a deal?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future
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Like who??
Mike Vick has emerged as a better player staying the pocket, and still hasn’t won a playoff game in almost 6 years.
What other mobile QB’s?? Big Ben I guess.
The wave of the future is Josh Freeman. Smart, big, rocekt-armed, pocket QB with a passion for film review and redeeming leadership qualities.
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Just because he chooses to stay in the pocket doent negate the fact that he is a mobile qb.
Freeman is a mobile qb always has been.
Mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Calling Plunkett and Montana mobile I think you just lost all of your football credibility with that one.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
What other mobile QB’s?? Big Ben I guess.
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I wouldn’t say Ben R@pistburger is “mobile”. He’s just hard to tackle at 250 lbs
Wouldn’t be surprised if John Henderson had a faster 40 time. Big Ben just has good instincts or awareness in the pocket
August 16th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Man yall really going at it today
August 16th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
“Mobile qbs’ are the wave of the future.”
A more accurate statement would be “mobile QB’s get hurt often”
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Mistic you have told me over 10 times in here before the CBA was signed that Kim Newton would “REVOLUTIONIZE” the NFL.
Now I need to know before I go digging if I can produce one of your posts that proves my point and you did in fact say that “Kim Newton would “REVOLUTIONIZE” the NFL.” you will take a week off from this blog.
Do we have a deal?
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are you trying to be slick?
You only put the word revolutionize in quotation marks. I did say he was revolutionizing the qb position, and again i said that while he still played for auburn.
I never said he was revolutionizing or would revolutionize the nfl.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
582.hwnrdr Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Atari Bigby to Seahawks…
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Guess he gonna try to bring toughness to the all powder puff softy team in the NFC west
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I will bet that Sam Bradford wins more playoff games than Cam Newton.
And Mike Vick will never play in a Super Bowl. He is Mr. October, only that is not as good in the NFL as baseball.
By the end of every season, he is at about 70% health, and hence his 2-3 record, 74 QB rating, 5 TD to 7 turnover career in the playoffs.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
566.r8eray Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
The Broncos defensive line is in trouble
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 16, 2011, 2:19 PM EDT
We mentioned Tuesday morning that Broncos free agent pickup Ty Warren could have a serious triceps injury.
Denver’s worst fears were realized: Warren tore his triceps muscle, which usually knocks a player out for the season. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports the Broncos are “discussing options” about what to do and have “not given up” on the chance Warren could play this year.
(Which means there is a good chance Warren won’t play.)
Warren was expected to start next to Marcus Thomas, who was also hurt Monday. He will miss the rest of the preseason with a strained pectoral muscle, but hopes to be ready for the season opener.
Yeah, it’s a safe bet the Raiders are going to run the ball plenty in Week One.
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LMFAO!!!!
Yeeeaaaahhhhhh Buuuuddddeeeeeeee!!!
They already know!
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LOL I know they will do their best to not be embarrassed like last year….but they already stunk on dline this is disastrous
August 16th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
591.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I will bet that Sam Bradford wins more playoff games than Cam Newton.
And Mike Vick will never play in a Super Bowl. He is Mr. October, only that is not as good in the NFL as baseball.
By the end of every season, he is at about 70% health, and hence his 2-3 record, 74 QB rating, 5 TD to 7 turnover career in the playoffs.
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Have to agree with this
August 16th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
” I did say he was revolutionizing the qb position”
So you finally admit you said it. thanks I didn’t want to dig in old posts to prove my point.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
“I will bet that Sam Bradford wins more playoff games than Cam Newton.
And Mike Vick will never play in a Super Bowl. He is Mr. October, only that is not as good in the NFL as baseball.
By the end of every season, he is at about 70% health, and hence his 2-3 record, 74 QB rating, 5 TD to 7 turnover career in the playoffs.”
Good point I agree also.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
the Bears added Vernon Gholston and now are considering Aaron Maybin?
Reggie Kelly to the Falcons
LenDale White cut by the Donks
Deon Grant re-signed with NYG
boot removed from Crabtree’s foot
pretty slow day for NFL News, eh?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Scam Newton is talented and will have some success in the NFL no doubt but his end will be a bad one…..I can see right thru that negga like glass. He gonna be another to get into some schit at the height of his career….just you watch
August 16th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
LenDale White cut by the Donks
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That’s another one about to go off deep end very soon
August 16th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Josh Freeman is a mobile QB???
LMFAO!!!
He was on NFLN a few weeks ago saying he might be the slowest player on his team.
Never rushed for a TD in the NFL. Combine 40 (4.97) was actually just an eyelash faster than Tom Brady’s (4.99), lol.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
So let’s stop arguing Scam Newton….that guy isnt playing here or aint playing us until next season…..let’s talk about saturday’s game in candleschit shall we?
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
In an effort to improve their defensive line play, the Denver Broncos have added Terdell Sands, Fred Wakefield, William Joseph & Ryan Boschetti.
-Adam Schefter (twitter)
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Calling Plunkett and Montana mobile I think you just lost all of your football credibility with that one.
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silver & crack are you new to bay area football.
Plunk was Heisman trophy winner and a dual threat qb. he had slowed down a ton by the time he came here, but he was still nimble in the pocket and could occasionally pick up first downs with his legs. He was the first qb i really watched and i cant count how many times he made plays outside the pocket.
Monatana was mobile. He wasnt a speed burner, but he was very crafty outside of the pocket. His mobility set the mold for wco qbs, young mcnabb rodgers and so on. he was short for a qb and he had to often use his feet to set up throwing lanes.
You guys must be confused. mobility doesnt mean eagle 7, type speed. eagle 7 has extreme mobility, but you just cant hold normal humans to that standard.
Mobility means he can keep the play alive with his feet, and pick up first downs running the ball, or scramble and throw.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Little-known fact.
AFter last years MNF massacre against Washington, Mike Vick went 4-4 to end the year with 11 TD’s to 10 turnovers.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
What things are you looking for from the first team O and D?
Personally I wanna see a TD scoring drive off top….and I wanna see the dline get pressure and force Smith to a possible INT. Hue needs to run the ball. We dont need to force people to respect our passing game. We arent even 100 pct yet. I also wanna see Gore go head up with the RoBeast
August 16th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
601.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
In an effort to improve their defensive line play, the Denver Broncos have added Terdell Sands, Fred Wakefield, William Joseph & Ryan Boschetti.
-Adam Schefter (twitter)
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LOL that was pretty funny
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
603.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Little-known fact.
AFter last years MNF massacre against Washington, Mike Vick went 4-4 to end the year with 11 TD’s to 10 turnovers.
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Yeah yeah we know Vegas…..not even important…Philly bout to get a rude awakening this season so let’s nevermind that debacle
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
ok B@uce
The 9ers O-Line is weak I want to see Alex Smith on his back at least 4 times.
Also their pass D is weak Campbell should have a good day depending on how much they let him play.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Josh Freeman is a mobile QB???
LMFAO!!!
He was on NFLN a few weeks ago saying he might be the slowest player on his team.
Never rushed for a TD in the NFL. Combine 40 (4.97) was actually just an eyelash faster than Tom Brady’s (4.99), lol.
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speed is a luxury as it pertains to mobility not necessarily a prerequisite.
Josh freeman ran for over 400 yards and 14 tds as a senior in college.
He is mobile, and often picks up first downs with his legs in the pro game.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
All right, well no need for any more bickering. Mistic1 and I are going after MistaBrown-Oakglenn as the best blog beef, lol.
OFf to go drive to Hell Paso. See you in about 5 hours.
August 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Mistic you are not a Raiders fan please refrain from talking to me.
Calling Plunkett Mobile is like saying Billy Kilmer or Bernie Kosar was mobile.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
607.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
ok B@uce
The 9ers O-Line is weak I want to see Alex Smith on his back at least 4 times.
Also their pass D is weak Campbell should have a good day depending on how much they let him play.
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JC playing into the 2nd qtr if not the entire 2nd half for damn sure
August 16th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d8217c1d5/article/raiders-have-reason-to-think-playoffs-with-jackson-at-the-helm?module=HP11_content_stream
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YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
August 16th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Silver and crack
Behold JIM PLUNKETT!!!
Notice his moves avoiding pressure and how often he is out of the pocket.
PLunk was mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjKK5rK5gw
August 16th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Little-known fact.
AFter last years MNF massacre against Washington, Mike Vick went 4-4 to end the year with 11 TD’s to 10 turnovers.
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There is only one massacre….
A.K.A.
Mile High Massacre
59-14
August 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
b@uce…..do you think Alex Smith will test our secondary.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
r8eray Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Little-known fact.
AFter last years MNF massacre against Washington, Mike Vick went 4-4 to end the year with 11 TD’s to 10 turnovers.
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There is only one massacre….
A.K.A.
Mile High Massacre
59-14
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CODE BLACK!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
ROG,
Gil Brandt loves him some Raiders every offseason
August 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
601.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
In an effort to improve their defensive line play, the Denver Broncos have added Terdell Sands, Fred Wakefield, William Joseph & Ryan Boschetti.
-Adam Schefter (twitter)
WOW…
August 16th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
the Colts have signed Tyler Brayton
August 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
the Patriots cut ex-raider C Chris Morris on Saturday
get’em AL!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Mistic
Yes when Plunkett was younger he had to run for his life by the time he got to Oakland he was not running anywhere because he had a great O-Line.
All the footage of his running is because he was on the Patriots and they were horrible team at the time, he had no choice but to run or be sacked. He is in no way running the way Vick runs
Why is this is this so hard for you to understand?
August 16th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
617.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
ROG,
Gil Brandt loves him some Raiders every offseason
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He knows his role
August 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
I see people asking about Bruce Campbell … well didn’t you hear about him last year in camp? and the same can be assumed this year … He can’t learn a playbook, can’t find a home position on the line, and doesn’t excell in assignment/pick-ups. He is what we drafted him as, a huge, athletic, freak with little “football player” characteristics. He is getting passed up by everyone. He will be on Special Teams till Hue finds out if coach Wisnewski can develop him.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Jeff Garcia would also like to see Alex Smith on his back…
August 16th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Mistic
Yes when Plunkett was younger he had to run for his life by the time he got to Oakland he was not running anywhere because he had a great O-Line.
All the footage of his running is because he was on the Patriots and they were horrible team at the time, he had no choice but to run or be sacked. He is in no way running the way Vick runs
Why is this is this so hard for you to understand?
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What a dumbass!!!!!
I never said he ran like vick…nobody runs like vick.
if he ran by choice or because he was forced isnt the issue. the fact is he could run and was good at doing it.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I see people asking about Bruce Campbell … well didn’t you hear about him last year in camp? and the same can be assumed this year … He can’t learn a playbook, can’t find a home position on the line, and doesn’t excell in assignment/pick-ups. He is what we drafted him as, a huge, athletic, freak with little “football player” characteristics. He is getting passed up by everyone.
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paradise,
We’ve got Wiz II & Heyer playing guard and Roy Schuening has been impressive in training camp.
add that to Loper & Carlisle and there’s little room for Bruce Campbell. He won’t sniff the field this season (again) imo
LT Veldheer/Barnes
LG Wiz II, Heyer, Loper
C Satele/Wiz II
RG Carlisle/Schuening
RT Barksdale/Barnes
August 16th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
HELLO NATION !!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Everyone runs when they are being chased even a 3 year old understands that. To claim that a QB is a running QB because he is running for his life to avoid a sack is just pathetic and shows your low football IQ.
I will no longer respond to any of your posts or comments because of your unmatched ignorance.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
624.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Jeff Garcia would also like to see Alex Smith on his back…
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LMBAO
August 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Everyone runs when they are being chased even a 3 year old understands that. To claim that a QB is a running QB because he is running for his life to avoid a sack is just pathetic and shows your low football IQ.
I will no longer respond to any of your posts or comments because of your unmatched ignorance.
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twist and turn all you want, the facts remain.
Plunk and joe cool were mobile qbs’.
Being chased or not has nothing to do with if a player has the ability to run.
your embarrassing yourself…par for the course
August 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
87.priesttj Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:13 am
JB The only concern with DHB is injury, if he gets slowed by injury it will be a real issue. If he’s healthy that kid is just way too talented to ignore. The skills will come and they are coming. He needs a full season and then an offseason under Hue and Al the rest he has.
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No he doesn’t. What, you just make this stuff up? He has nothing so far except, apparently, a good work ethic. You would too if you were overpaid and wanted to keep your job.
His only history is of marginal production in college and iffy hands. Forchrissakes.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Agreed, but Bruce Campbell can’t be as awful as Khalif Barnes, can he?!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I do think that we will know who the starting center is by the time Mr. Jason Campbell does not comeback into the 2nd preseason game. If Mr. Satele is his only center and Mr. Wisniewski only snaps for Mr. Boller & Mr. Edwards again, then we can lock samson at center along with Mr. Vehldeer at LT.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Another little know fact.
Mike Vick has never put two good years together back to back.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
I do not see the Raiders keeping all 3 veteran linamen: Mr. Barnes, Mr. Carlisle, and Mr. Loper as back ups with their contracts; that would be about 7 million for 3 back up OL.
If at least one does not start then at least one will be cut if not traded.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Funny how many DHb haters are on this board, have opinioins that seem to be the direct opposite of what Saunders and Hu jack think. I trust the coaches for my team.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
634.Ryan Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Another little know fact.
Mike Vick has never put two good years together back to back.
That is true, but for Eagles Fans sake…he is gonna have to because of all that expectations thay now have t here…
August 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Bruce Campbell can’t be as awful as Khalif Barnes, can he?!
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Barnes is a good blocker, but those false starts against AZ were unacceptable. those are drive killers in the regular season
August 16th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Obviously.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Ohio, you are wrong!
priest is correct, Mr. Heyward-Bey does have talent, he is one of the fastest players in the NFL, along with his great work ethic.
DHB was going to be a 1st round pick, if the Raiders had not taken him so early other teams would have drafted him somewhere between pick 15-25 or so, that is a fact. He does run good routes most of the time, in fact many times when he is open, Raider QBs have not been getting him the ball, they either miss, don’t notice he’s open, or were sacked.
He started with the lazy ass Mr. J. Russell as his qb, along with the pressure of many berating DHB, it set him back.
As I have stated many times before, DHB’s numbers are better than Raider legend, Mr. Cliff Branch’s (who dropped many a passes from Mr. lamonica, Mr. Blanda, and Mr. Stabler)first two seasons; then broke out in his 3rd season to be one of the best of all-time.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I do not see the Raiders keeping all 3 veteran linamen: Mr. Barnes, Mr. Carlisle, and Mr. Loper as back ups with their contracts; that would be about 7 million for 3 back up OL
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Retribution,
good point, but who would you rather keep for depth?
assuming all three of those dudes fail to secure a starting job (even though I think Carlisle stays as the RG) the next level replacements would be Ben Lamaak, Alan Pelc & Alex Parsons. Right?
August 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Mr. Barnes will have another game to prove himself, but I would like to see Mr. Barksdale & Mr. Wisniewski play with the 1st team in the next preseason game to see how they go against oppositions 1st team defenses.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Ryan Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Another little know fact.
Mike Vick has never put two good years together back to back.
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Pro Bowl 2004-2005. Approximate Value (AV)2002′ 17, 2004′ 15, 2006′ 15, 2010′ 15
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00.htm
August 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
The over under on how many times Hue Jackson says “Obviously” during today’s presser is 28.
Place your bets!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
KK how is the DOW today? Recession been over since 2009 right?
August 16th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
DHB was going to be a 1st round pick, if the Raiders had not taken him so early other teams would have drafted him somewhere between pick 15-25 or so, that is a fact.
+++++++++++++++
I am not websters dictionary, but that is not a fact, that is an opinion. a fact is something factual, for example:
DHB has more names (3) than career TDs (2): that sir, is a fact!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
The over under on how many times Hue Jackson says “Obviously” during today’s presser is 28.
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No presser today, the boys are off.
Hue still says more in his pressers than Barney Rubble did.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
DHB was going to be a 1st round pick, if the Raiders had not taken him so early other teams would have drafted him somewhere between pick 15-25 or so, that is a fact.
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DHB DID grade out as a low 1 early 2 for that draft. Who knew he would produce like a UDFA though.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
LenDale White cut by the Donks
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That’s another one about to go off deep end very soon
***NOW HERE’S AN AL DAVIS KIND OF SIGNING!!!THEN TURN AROUND AND TRADE DMAC – AL MIGHT DO IT!!!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
636.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Funny how many DHb haters are on this board, have opinioins that seem to be the direct opposite of what Saunders and Hu jack think. I trust the coaches for my team.
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Oh yeah u trusted cable started farglass and kwame the lame harris?….spare us that man…you smarter than this bruh
August 16th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
645.MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
KK how is the DOW today? Recession been over since 2009 right?
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got a link?
August 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I am not websters dictionary
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obviously!
sorry, Silver. couldn’t resist
August 16th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
643.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Ryan Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Another little know fact.
Mike Vick has never put two good years together back to back.
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Pro Bowl 2004-2005. Approximate Value (AV)2002′ 17, 2004′ 15, 2006′ 15, 2010′ 15
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00.htm
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Vick has had only one good year and that was 2010…..Kell you are dumb ass schit
August 16th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
“Well, I was raised in Oakland. I grew up, went to elementary school and went to high school here. I played at San Jose State and got my master’s at Stanford, as I’m a Bay Area guy. I was a ball boy for Al Davis at Frank Youell Field in 1963. The Raiders, truth be told, you grow up with a team as a kid and it was just the right time for me. I love Hue Jackson and we worked together in Baltimore. I’ve been around some great head coaches in the National Football League. I’ve worked with guys like Joe Gibbs, Dick Vermeil, Don Coryell and Marty Schottenheimer. In college, I worked with guys like Johnny Majors and John McKay. I think I’ve had some experience with some special people and I think I would really love to see Hue have a great deal of success here. As a kid, this was my team. You get to the tail end of your career and there are a lot of things that are more important in what you do. I would really like to see this franchise return to the way it was when I was a kid growing up going to Frank Youell Field and seeing those guys play. I’d like to help the guy that I was a ball boy for years ago and maybe return this franchise to the class and quality is was years ago. I’d really feel great if I could make a contribution in that regard.”- Al Saunders
“““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
Obviously, Saunders has been a Al Davis bootlicker since before most of you pootbutts were born.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I would like to see Mr. Barksdale & Mr. Wisniewski play with the 1st team in the next preseason game to see how they go against oppositions 1st team defenses.
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me too, Retro!
August 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
B,
The only links I got are hot links.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Obviously, Saunders has been a Al Davis bootlicker since before most of you pootbutts were born.
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Hmm, I thought his resume is pretty impressive: “I’ve worked with guys like Joe Gibbs, Dick Vermeil, Don Coryell and Marty Schottenheimer”
But everybody has an angle I guess.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
MB,
Ready for some “fundamental transformation” this election?
August 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
lol sweep what a nightmare this derelict has been.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
654.909RaiderLifer Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
“Well, I was raised in Oakland. I grew up, went to elementary school and went to high school here. I played at San Jose State and got my master’s at Stanford, as I’m a Bay Area guy. I was a ball boy for Al Davis at Frank Youell Field in 1963. The Raiders, truth be told, you grow up with a team as a kid and it was just the right time for me. I love Hue Jackson and we worked together in Baltimore. I’ve been around some great head coaches in the National Football League. I’ve worked with guys like Joe Gibbs, Dick Vermeil, Don Coryell and Marty Schottenheimer. In college, I worked with guys like Johnny Majors and John McKay. I think I’ve had some experience with some special people and I think I would really love to see Hue have a great deal of success here. As a kid, this was my team. You get to the tail end of your career and there are a lot of things that are more important in what you do. I would really like to see this franchise return to the way it was when I was a kid growing up going to Frank Youell Field and seeing those guys play. I’d like to help the guy that I was a ball boy for years ago and maybe return this franchise to the class and quality is was years ago. I’d really feel great if I could make a contribution in that regard.”- Al Saunders
“““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
Obviously, Saunders has been a Al Davis bootlicker since before most of you pootbutts were born.
……………………
both Als rule!
August 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
659.MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
lol sweep what a nightmare this derelict has been.
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but he can dance and shoot hoops
August 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
636.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Funny how many DHb haters are on this board, have opinioins that seem to be the direct opposite of what Saunders and Hu jack think. I trust the coaches for my team.
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Oh yeah u trusted cable started farglass and kwame the lame harris?….spare us that man…you smarter than this bruh
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Uh no, i trust our coaches now, i never trusted cable and bunch of clowns
August 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
DHB was going to be a 1st round pick, if the Raiders had not taken him so early other teams would have drafted him somewhere between pick 15-25 or so, that is a fact.
+++++++++++++++
I am not websters dictionary, but that is not a fact, that is an opinion. a fact is something factual, for example:
DHB has more names (3) than career TDs (2): that sir, is a fact!
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Darrius Heyward-Bey is actually one name.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Pres derelict shouldnt be above 10% approval in the polls, shows you just how many idiots there are walking around. Stupid people are breeding every FK’n day!
August 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
I think he is getting exactly what he wanted.
The only good from all this is the huge shift towards the right that is coming.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
He got everything, stimulus, HC, redistribution. The only thing he didnt get was cap & trade. His HC will be overturned.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Pres derelict shouldnt be above 10% approval in the polls, shows you just how many idiots there are walking around.
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Thank God we live in a republic and not a democracy.
You should have to take a basic civics test before you vote.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
I like Hues angle in giving DHB mad props!
Sometimes reverse psychology, positive input does wonders for the learning disabled.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Then KK & MR would be on the outside looking in.
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# Sweep The Leg. Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Thank God we live in a republic and not a democracy.
You should have to take a basic civics test before you vote.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
They just got the appeals court to say the HC bill was un-constitutional.
I am optimistic that decision will hold up through the supreme court.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
As long as it doesnt spill over into the reg season, we played enough 10 on 11 the last 2 years.
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# Deja vu Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
I like Hues angle in giving DHB mad props!
Sometimes reverse psychology, positive input does wonders for the learning disabled.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Then KK & MR would be on the outside looking in.
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# Sweep The Leg. Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Thank God we live in a republic and not a democracy.
You should have to take a basic civics test before you vote.
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They at least have an opinion, but are in the vast minority.
It worries me more to have the useful idiots determining our future because they like a canidates skin color.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Yep, even 1 of Clinton’s appointee’s voted to over turn it. B0 is such a law scholar he is jamming through unconstitutional BS.
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# Sweep The Leg. Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
They just got the appeals court to say the HC bill was un-constitutional.
I am optimistic that decision will hold up through the supreme court.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Yawn.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Can Prez BO field punts?
Cut Nick Miller!
August 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Mista…you’re a racist
August 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Mista you are just jealous that u dont have the balls to show the world you have no rythym or cant really play ball
August 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
674.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Yawn.
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Sounds like a night sexually with Mrs Kelly huh?
August 16th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Bri3n……
Just thought I’d throw that out there for the castor oil drinkers…..
August 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
KK, can we watch tj tune you up?
August 16th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
why does everybody talk about Kell’s wife?
that’s pretty jacked up …
August 16th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Mostly because Kell is a pootbutt…..and he posted a link with her pic and then bragged about what a beauty she is. Oh, and then he boasted about her being white. Then you throw in all his anti-white rhetoric.
Clear now?
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
why does everybody talk about Kell’s wife?
that’s pretty jacked up …
August 16th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
681.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
why does everybody talk about Kell’s wife?
that’s pretty jacked up …
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He opened that flood gate himself…he said we were all jealous of his white wife
August 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
August 16th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
I guess the short answer is he asked for it.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
he boasted about her being white. Then you throw in all his anti-white rhetoric.
Clear now?
he said we were all jealous of his white wife
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Gotcha. Sorry
I thought maybe you were bashing her for supporting him or putting up with his grumpy liberal self …
I got nothing against blogger wives. I’m a family man myself
August 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Mista he sure did
August 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
RRS….hypocrite to the bone
August 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
You shouldn’t brag when your better half resembles Donnie Wahlbergs character in “The Sixth Sense”.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
689.Sweep The Leg. Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
You shouldn’t brag when your better half resembles Donnie Wahlbergs character in “The Sixth Sense”.
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Sweep to the left and then cutback 80 yard TD…LOL that was awesome!
August 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
You shouldn’t brag when your better half resembles Donnie Wahlbergs character in “The Sixth Sense”.
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Never seen Kell’s picture you guys are referring to, but that is COLD brotha. lol
August 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Posting a link to not only your pic but your wifes as well, on a sports blog = the single dumbest thing ever.
You are asking for a beat down!
August 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
did you guys hear about Kobe grabbing that dude’s cell phone from him at Catholic church on Sunday night?
LOL!
what a headcase. must be that time of the month
August 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
692.MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Posting a link to not only your pic but your wifes as well, on a sports blog = the single dumbest thing ever.
You are asking for a beat down!
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Kell has asked for a beatdown in many ways
August 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
693.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
did you guys hear about Kobe grabbing that dude’s cell phone from him at Catholic church on Sunday night?
LOL!
what a headcase. must be that time of the month
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Losing his game and his hair has taken a toll on birdface
August 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
lol @ birdface
August 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Kell like MR enjoy gettin abused on this blog. For a long time I’d just rip em to shreds with a few others now many have jumpped in and its got more hilarious over time
August 16th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I wanna check out Kell’s mixed daughters…they say two ugly people usually produce good looking offspring….the Kellys are definitely busted so I wonder how lil princess and lil sis is
August 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Butters your grounded!!
Do you know what I am saying?
August 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Kell u got any pics of them? If u post them I’ll give u the rest of the month off from shinin’ my kicks…..deal?
August 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
666 yes I think I know what you are saying!
August 16th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
lmao
KK has offspring ?
August 16th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
666Glen, Im hating you a little less each week.
Keep up the good work and i’ll forget your a cross posting troll, deal?
August 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
I just assumed KK was castrated @ birth & that is the reason for his deep rooted anger & misery.
August 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Well it doesn’t seem like anything has changed here since I’ve been gone
August 16th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
The supplemental draft has been postponed.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6868471/nfl-postpones-supplemental-draft-sources-say
Methinks they’re adding Pryor and want him to have a Pro Day.
August 16th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
They really screwed Pryor over with the supplemental draft
August 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I have had the seam moniker for 6 years so it doesn’t bother me.
I stopped hating you when B@uce said you were cool.
August 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Work on Campbell underthrowing the long ball.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
705.18yearsold18yearfan Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Well it doesn’t seem like anything has changed here since I’ve been gone
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Yes I still rule
August 16th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
709.souldogdave Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Work on Campbell underthrowing the long ball.
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LMAO thats funny actually
August 16th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
666Glen, Im hating you a little less each week.
Keep up the good work and i’ll forget your a cross posting troll, deal?
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I have had the seam moniker for 6 years so it doesn’t bother me.
I stopped hating you when B@uce said you were cool.
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Wow 666. You afraid of these keyboard gangstas?
August 16th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Yeah Campbell kills me with those underthrows
August 16th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Mista is cool as hell…..just some people think way opposite of what he is cuz he aint down with prez BO…..hell neither am I
August 16th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I have had the seam moniker for 6 years so it doesn’t bother me.
I stopped hating you when B@uce said you were cool.
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Wow.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
712.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
666Glen, Im hating you a little less each week.
Keep up the good work and i’ll forget your a cross posting troll, deal?
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I have had the seam moniker for 6 years so it doesn’t bother me.
I stopped hating you when B@uce said you were cool.
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Wow 666. You afraid of these keyboard gangstas?
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Look at Kell with the timely posts….such a coward
August 16th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
715.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
I have had the seam moniker for 6 years so it doesn’t bother me.
I stopped hating you when B@uce said you were cool.
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Wow.
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What’s the deal with being against folks not hating one another who love the Raiders?
August 16th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Whats up Raider fans! Is there practice today?
August 16th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
18yearsold18yearfan Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
They really screwed Pryor over with the supplemental draft
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Not just that, but they screwed over the other likely draftees with moving the time back. There’s that much less time for the draftees to start practicing with their new teams (assuming that anyone other than King and Pryor gets taken).
August 16th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
~ Abraham Lincoln, Debate with Stephen Douglas, Sept. 18, 1858, in Abraham Lincoln: Speeches and Writings, 1832-1858 (New York: Library of America, 1989), pp. 636-637.
Not quite the image of old “Honest Abe” we were taught in school. I posted this as an example of the treachery the state is capable of when they control every aspect of our lives.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Whats up Raider fans! Is there practice today?
nah off today
August 16th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Score TD’s! Don’t settle for FG’s!
Play the players who do NOT make stupid penalties!!
Coach up the WR’s and the DB’s to be confidant and make plays!! Attack the football and make tackles!
August 16th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
SIGN LOFA TATUPU to a bargain deal!
Who cares if he can’t fly to the football like he once did.
His experience will make up for lack of speed!
Sign him!
August 16th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
DK i agree
August 16th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
its an off day for practice…but everyday is ass kicking day on kell’s old butt
August 16th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Twocents Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
~ Abraham Lincoln, Debate with Stephen Douglas, Sept. 18, 1858, in Abraham Lincoln: Speeches and Writings, 1832-1858 (New York: Library of America, 1989), pp. 636-637.
Not quite the image of old “Honest Abe” we were taught in school. I posted this as an example of the treachery the state is capable of when they control every aspect of our lives.
can wait for the day off on his George Washington Christopher Columbus bday!
August 16th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
And play him at the WILL OLB spot to compete with Groves.
They need to use Blackstock as a stand up RUSH OLB also!
That is his strength!
August 16th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
DAMNNNNN!!!!
Anyone watching E60 on espn?
August 16th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Yup, they didn’t score TD’s in the Red Zone, Thurs, and the habit of pre-snap penalties were also on display. Two old Raider habits.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Mista is cool as hell…..just some people think way opposite of what he is cuz he aint down with prez BO…..hell neither am I
i voted for him and BO is a big dissapointment too bad there isn’t a viable democratic candidate to oppose him so he’ll be the lesser of two evils for me
August 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
729.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Yup, they didn’t score TD’s in the Red Zone, Thurs, and the habit of pre-snap penalties were also on display. Two old Raider habits.
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Shut up old btch
August 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
B@uce voted for himself last election as he did in 2004 lol
August 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Lofa would be perfect for our defense….he is very smart and a playmaker
August 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Shut up old btch
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Yes, I hope Al Davis keeps out if it.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Yeah boss said B@uce you can leave 30 minutes early….YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
August 16th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
734.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Shut up old btch
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Yes, I hope Al Davis keeps out if it.
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You keep out of Raider biz….thanks
August 16th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Bruce Campbell came into camp out of shape, that’s why he’s not mentioned anymore, yes?
August 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
-Q: What are your thoughts about Darrius Heyward-Bey?
-AL DAVIS: He’s going to be good.
-Q: What do you see from him that makes you think so?
-AL DAVIS: Explosion. He can catch, he’s getting better and he’s a good guy. He’s going to be good.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Tatupu would be an upgrade over groves
August 16th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Kell we’ve already discussed again….u remind me of John Lithgow in Rise of the Planet of the Apes……u cant remember schit
August 16th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
WAKE UP CORKRAN!!!!!
August 16th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Cut Groves….he sucks as a LB
August 16th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
DHB is takin up cap money an a roster spot. If he was takin in a lower round that be different. Agreed.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Dude’s wearing my pinky ring!
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/526101/AlDavis1_medium.jpg
August 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Raiders more than $5 million under salary cap. More signings on the way. Broncos $24M under, Chiefs $32M under, Chargers $3M under.
about 7 hours ago
August 16th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Al to Kiffin:I do realize that you did not want to draft JaMarcus Russell. He is a great player. Get over it and coach this team on the field, that is what you were hired to do. We can win with this team!
August 16th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
733.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Lofa would be perfect for our defense….he is very smart and a playmaker
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EXACTLY!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
744.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Dude’s wearing my pinky ring!
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/526101/AlDavis1_medium.jpg
^^^^^^^
The Emperor!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Sigh….where the F are our updates? Cork ??? Whazzup?
August 16th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Tatupu has bad knees and couldn’t cover a Tackle like Heyer out of the backfield.Ya,go get him.Start repeating the mistakes of a few years ago by signing washed up,has been cast-offs from other teams like Walker.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
744.KoolKell Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Dude’s wearing my pinky ring!
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/526101/AlDavis1_medium.jpg
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Man, you need to Try Some Tenderness. Leave the old man alone and quit dissin him. He is in his eighties and living in his own legacy. Are you?
August 16th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Well, Al Saunders wasn’t exactly a big name being thrown around. He’s a good guy and a decent assistant coach, but it’s not like nabbing Parcells…or Gruden (ouch. you know that hurts).
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Oh my root. Al Saunders “decent assist coach”? …Al Saunders had a guiding hand in some of the most prolific offenses in league history! And you call this decent???
Holy cow!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
JLH lost it after that 1 hit. He was the definition of the naming “Can’t get right”. Was here for 3 yrs and that fool was still running the wrong routes and dropping balls like Pac-Man droppin dollars in a strip club.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
61.priesttj Says:
August 15th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
All you DHB bashers if you want to hear why I have been saing what bI’ve been saying about DHB just gom to the Raiders website an dlisten to Al Saunders interview and you’ll hear what I’ve been saying for a whole year and why I think this kid is going to be exceptional one day.
It couldn’t come from a more knowledgable and experienced scientist of football the Mr Saunders. I know Hue and Al hav egone over every piece of tape of that kid and the know what bhe can and cannot do it’s just a matter of time with DHB and coaching. The coaching he’s getting now is the very best there is.
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Hey Tj, you know I can dig what you been sayin, but when it comes to this DHB stuff man, when the coaches talkin him up makes me think they just wantin to keep their jobs. Cable got rid of Russell, but it cost him his job in the long run. Just sayin……….
August 16th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Al looks terrible in that picture. Ghastly. Ghoulish.
If you don’t like the man, you might enjoy seeing his decline and think it’s something to joke about. Your comparative youth and vibrancy might even make you feel superior to him.
If you do like or admire the man, you can’t help but be sorry and concerned for him.
Either way, you should keep in mind that there’s only one alternative to aging and that one day you might cast a similar appearance.
You think Al doesn’t know he looks like death warmed over ?
I assure you he does.
The man is a multimillionaire. He can walk away from this and try to enjoy his last years. He doesn’t have to put himself out there to be mocked and ridiculed.
I don’t know if he’ll succeed in his goal of restoring the Raiders to prominence, but I sure as hell admire his tenacity and will miss him when he’s gone.
I know many feel differently, but this long time Raider fan will never throw Al under the bus.
August 16th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 16th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Ohio, you are wrong!
priest is correct, Mr. Heyward-Bey does have talent, he is one of the fastest players in the NFL, along with his great work ethic.
DHB was going to be a 1st round pick, if the Raiders had not taken him so early other teams would have drafted him somewhere between pick 15-25 or so, that is a fact. He does run good routes most of the time, in fact many times when he is open, Raider QBs have not been getting him the ball, they either miss, don’t notice he’s open, or were sacked.
He started with the lazy ass Mr. J. Russell as his qb, along with the pressure of many berating DHB, it set him back.
As I have stated many times before, DHB’s numbers are better than Raider legend, Mr. Cliff Branch’s (who dropped many a passes from Mr. lamonica, Mr. Blanda, and Mr. Stabler)first two seasons; then broke out in his 3rd season to be one of the best of all-time.
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What are you, around 12? That’s the best you can throw up against me? And please f off with the “Mr’s.” What a joke.
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