Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 17th, 2011 at 8:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Wednesday’s spirited practice placed a smile on coach Hue Jackson’s face, which is saying something given the news that starting wide receiver Louis Murphy and starting cornerback Chris Johnson underwent surgery, backup safety Mike Mitchell’s return is uncertain and projected starting center Samson Satele got hurt today.
“My thing is, next man up,” Jackson said. “Whoever the next guy is, step up and let’s play. Again, as you guys know, I don’t bat an eye at those things when a guy goes down or a guy’s out of here. I don’t like it for our players, but you can’t worry about that. I can’t worry about it. I’ve got to coach the guys that are here, the next guy’s got to step and play like a Raider.”
Murphy’s injury is the most pressing, given he led all Raiders wide receivers in receptions and yards last season, and he tied for the team lead in touchdowns. Also, the Raiders already are without the services of top recievers Jacoby Ford and Chaz Schilens.
Fortunately for the Raiders, veteran Derek Hagan, rookie Denarius Moore and roster hopefuls Nick Miller and Shaun Bodiford are playing well during camp, so there’s viable options until Murphy returns.
Jackson said Murphy won’t be back for the regular-season opener Sept. 12 against the Denver Broncos. Murphy said Saturday that he has been bothered by hamstring and groin issues.
Ford and Schilens are expected back soon, Ford from a broken left hand, Schilens from the right leg injury he suffered against the Arizona Cardinals last Thursday night.
“Chaz is getting close,” Jackson said. “He’s doing really good.”
Then again, Jackson said several times that Murphy was “close.”
*Johnson left midway through practice Sunday. Jackson said afterward that Johnson was “fine.”
“No, no, no, he’s not hurt,” Jackson said. “It was just, again, it was a coach’s decision. I get to make those decisions, take guys off, give them a little time and see where they are. We’ve been running them pretty good. As you see, we throw the ball down the field here, and our corners have to cover but, no, he’s fine.”
Jackson said Monday that Johnson didn’t practice because he’s a member of the so-called Plus-30 Club, which entitles players who are 30 or older to a day off every now and then.
On Wednesday, Johnson went from fine to in need of a “procedure.” He won’t play against the 49ers on Saturday is as far as Jackson would go.
“Chris will be back here very shortly and soon,” Jackson said, ”and we’ll get him back into uniform and get him playing. I’m not going to go into detail exactly what it is, but he did, we had to have some things cleaned up with him, for him, and he’ll be back and on the mend and ready to play football.”
*Johnson’s absence gives rookie DeMarcus Van Dyke a window of opportunity to show what he can do. He showed signs of maturing in practice Wednesday.
“I watched DeMarcus Van Dyke do some things today that I haven’t seen,” Jackson said. “Get after guys on the sidelines and push them out of bounds, and hit ‘em.”
Veteran free safety Michael Huff said young players such as Van Dyke just need an opportunity and that people need to realize that there isn’t anyone on the roster, or elsewhere, who can replace Nnamdi Asomugha.
“It will be fine,” Huff said. “Obviously, they’re going to go through their growing pains. We’ve had Nnam here forever, so everybody that comes in expects people to shut down the field like Nnam does. Nobody is going to do that. So, you got to be patient, let the young guys grow up a little bit.”
Van Dyke isn’t shying away from the challenge at hand.
“Yeah, it’s an opportunity to show out, to show the team that I can play,” Van Dyke said. “And this is an opportunity to show coach Hue that I’m ready to play.”
*Jackson said Satele’s injury isn’t anything serious. He called it “a little tweak there, a nick.” Just the same, he was taken to a nearby hospital for tests to determine the extent.
The nature of Satele’s injury is unknown because it happened without being obvious. He was at center one play, being led from the field the next.
“Nothing major,” Jackson said. DIdn’t get rolled on our nothing. Just started feeling a little discomfort and we decided to get him out. Just didn’t feel some strength in some areas. He’s OK. I really believe he’s OK, and he’ll be fine.”
Stefen Wisniewski replaced Satele at center after beginning the day at left guard. Daniel Loper received added playing time at left guard upon Satele’s departure.
*Second-year offensive lineman Bruce Campbell looked pretty good in practice, especially in a one-on-one pass protection drill agaisnt defensive end Lamaar Houston.
His day took a turn for the worse when he got too high with his hands while blocking defensive tackle Derrick Hill in the same drill. Campbell hurt his right thumb on the play and needed trainers to tape it up.
Campbell spent most of his time Wednesday at guard.
*Penalties were a major issue in practice Wednesday. Nothing to be alarmed about, Jackson said.
There’s a reason for the increased number of penalties in practice, he added.
“We can’t play winning football that way and our team understands that,” Jackson said. “What’s happenings is they’re getting three different quarterbacks, three different languages, they’re hearing different things … and it’s a tribute to the offense, the quarterbacks have done a great job with their cadence, of mixing it up. So, it can be tough on a defense at times.”
*Jackson said he is pleased with where his team stands at the conclusion of three weeks of training camp. At the same time, he admitted that his team is far from where it needs to be for the regular-season opener.
“Every coach around the league is trying to get better,” Jackson said. “I don’t think anybody’s happy where they are right now. We’ve had these guys for what, three weeks? I don’t know too many coaches who are going ‘hurray, we’re ready to go.’ We don’t play until the 12th. …
“You have to make sure that the process is ongoing so that you hit the season running. That’s what this is all about. This is where this is headed. When I talk to our football team, we have to get ready to play any opponent we play but we all understand that we have to hit the ground running come the 12th of September.”
*Jackson is serious when he says he wants to win every time he steps on the field, even if it’s an exhibition game.
He said he would take playing poorly in a win over playing well in a loss any day.
“I always like to win,” Jackson said. “Last week was hard for me. It took me more than 48 hours to let that one go, but that’s OK. I want to win but I also want our team to play well.”
*It’s logical for players to feel as if their chances of making the 53-man roster lie in how they perform in the four exhibition games.
Jackson has made it known that everything is taken into account when it comes time to formulating the opening-day roster.
“I keep telling guys, regardless of whether you’re on the first team, the second team, it doesn’t matter,” Jackson said. “You got to go. You’ve got to put something on video tape, something us coaches can take in order to evaluate you, and when you get your opportunity you’ve got to make the most of it, and our players are trying to do that.”
*It should come as no surprise by now that the catch of the day was turned in by Denarius Moore.
This time, Moore broke off an out-and-up route when he saw the pass was behind him, planted himself and made a diving catch toward the sideline and the line of scrimmage. The play didn’t net many yards, but it elicited plenty of oohs and aahs.
*Running back Darren McFaddena and Ford spent part of practice running 100-yard sprints while their teammates practiced nearby.
Offensive lineman Stephon Heyer (triceps), defensive end Trevor Scott (knee), safety Zac Etheridge (knee) and running back Taiwan Jones (undisclosed) were among those who missed practice.
*Linebacker Bruce Davis II participated at full strength for the first time since his return Monday. He missed significant time with an undisclosed injury.
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August 17th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Boo Chimpbechler,
Everybody in the world who criticizes Al Davis, Cannot Be MR. That’s impossible, ok?
The Raiders had 22,000 season ticket holders last year. Looks like fewer this year.
Can the other 50,000 people, all be MR?
I know it feels good to ya, but everything that feels good aint sex, ok?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
124.KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Can the other 50,000 people all be MR?
I know it feels good to ya, but everything that feels good aint sex, ok?
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WHATTTTTTTT???!!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
124.KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Can the other 50,000 people all be MR?
I know it feels good to ya, but everything that feels good aint sex, ok?
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Do you smell what I’m reading??????
August 17th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Al Davis has this team on a roll! Keep on Rollin baby!
August 17th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
110.ohioraider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
After the Gold Rush Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
DHB in practice is like what we call batting cage hitters who hit about .850 in the cages and stay under the Mendoza line in the game.
OhioRaider = MR
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You effin wish I was only MR. I’m ten times the avenging critic MR ever was. Since 2007, only one Ohioraider on this blog. And I watched the 1984 AFC Championship game in person. What do you wanna say about that?
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Sweet. These are not your fathers Raiders, but Al Davis WILL bring them back to greatness.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
1.KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Boo Chimpbechler,
Everybody in the world who criticizes Al Davis, Cannot Be MR. That’s impossible, ok?
The Raiders had 22,000 season ticket holders last year. Looks like fewer this year.
Can the other 50,000 people, all be MR?
I know it feels good to ya, but everything that feels good aint sex, ok?
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KK, that is nasty. What you gettin all nasty about, you and MR and sex…. Just plain nasty.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
KK, put the Night Train down man!
MR is an admitted, well known troll, This is obviously him again, in fact he owned up to Sullivan handle earlier today. I recommend you stifle yourself. Otherwise eat some sh!t.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
What’s up wit MM34?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
*It should come as no surprise by now that the catch of the day was turned in by Denarius Moore.
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Fortunately for the Raiders, veteran Derek Hagan, rookie Denarius Moore and roster hopefuls Nick Miller and Shaun Bodiford are playing well during camp, so there’s viable options until Murphy returns.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but was there no mention of the DHB in todays notes and quotes? Very interesting indeed.
I can’t believe HueJack would render DHB inconsequential this early in the season. Irrelevant maybe, but a non factor?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Need a lesson on how to hit somebody? Mike Mitchell doesn’t. The Oakland Raiders second year strong safety has been coming into his own this year since seeing more playing time due to linebacker Thomas Howard’ unspecified knee injury and Mitchell is taking advantage of his extra playing time this year.
Mitchell first burst into the Raiders’ scene when they shocked Mel Kiper Jr. by drafting the former Ohio Bobcat in the second round of the 2009 NFL draft, the Raiders’ next pick following the highly scrutinized pick of wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey. Come to find out, he may have been on more radars than just the Raiders. Turns out Mitchell may have been one of the best kept secrets of the scouting process that year; a hard-hitting, versatile, very quick, and powerful safety who showed tremendous range in his on-field tape during his time at Ohio.
And that my friends, is how to hit somebody. You know that you have made good contact when the whole stadium does the unison, “OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!”
Trouble was he was raw and many NFL teams want players who are ready to go—with maybe a little bit of polishing—as their second round picks. Mitchell was a project, even in the eyes of some fans who considered the two top picks in this draft to be Al Davis Scholarship players.
But Mitchell could be well on his way to silencing his critics.
“The way he’s improved, particularly in the last three weeks, he does give us an extra bonus in there,” said Oakland Raiders head coach Tom Cable a day after the Denver Broncos game where Mitchell had five tackles, a pass defended, and a forced fumble that helped give the Raiders an early 21-0 lead against their divisional foes. It was an effort that Mitchell received a game ball for following the game.
“He’s a physical player that can run,” Cable continued. “He just seems to get better and better. He stepped right in (for Howard) and has improved with each game.”
Mitchell was a guy who was highly coveted by Tom Cable himself out of Ohio. Cable thought he was very similar to Jack Tatum and Ronnie Lott, and he described Mitchell to the 2009 draft day media as someone who could help the team get back to their old school style of Raiders’ football by “literally knocking people out.”
Mitchell actually got a lot of playing time late in the 2009 season in a specially designed three safety package. And while Mitchell’s play has not yet earned him consideration as a player who could replace starting safeties Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch, Mitchell is making an impact on the field that is getting attention from fans and coaches alike and that is never a bad thing.
Mitchell has great instincts and he has a nose for the ball. Now, at least in the early part of this season, it appears Mitchell is getting a good feel for the scheme he is in as well as the speed of the pro game. At 6′1″ and 220 pounds, Mitchell is pound for pound the Raiders’ most devastating hitter when he gets a chance. But it’s not like he misses tackles looking for that big one either, he is a sure tackler and his first instinct is to make sure his opponent stops gaining yards…immediately.
Based on his play this season and at the end of last year, some folks think that Mitchell should be moved into the starting rotation at safety to help beef up the Raiders rushing defense, which has been hot and cold this year. Some think Michael Huff would be better suited to line up as the Raiders nickel cornerback and could potentially be moved to a starting role opposite Nnamdi Asomugha while Branch and Mitchell roam the defensive backfield picking off wide receivers one by one and making them hear footsteps after catch attempts.
Time will tell what the future hold for Mitchell in the silver and black uniform. He’s said that he and Tyvon are tight and it would be a dream come true to lineup next to Tyvon at safety as the Raiders starter in the future. Tom Cable, however, says the thought of replacing the current safeties is not even in the equation for what the Raiders are doing right now. One thing’s for sure, if Mitchell keeps playing at this level, he will be a large part of the Raiders’ plan moving forward in whatever way they can get him on the field.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Hate to see CJ and Murph go down.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
*It should come as no surprise by now that the catch of the day was turned in by Denarius Moore.
This time, Moore broke off an out-and-up route when he saw the pass was behind him, planted himself and made a diving catch toward the sideline and the line of scrimmage. The play didn’t net many yards, but it elicited plenty of oohs and aahs.
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is anyone elses worried about these lame duck underthrown passes???????
August 17th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
we should expect to see a vet cb & wr anytime now…
August 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
J-Raider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
we should expect to see a vet cb & wr anytime now…
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Where is Rolando Hill, and Travis Taylor???
August 17th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
14.That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
J-Raider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
we should expect to see a vet cb & wr anytime now…
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Where is Rolando Hill, and Travis Taylor???
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Where is DHB?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
how about k haydon and trade for jason avant???
August 17th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Raccoon! You getting that CODE BLCAK 2011 banner ready for MNF?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
August 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I’ve taken notice of the under thrown passes from JC aswell. DHB and Reese had their man beat for homeruns, but the passes were short.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
K. Hayden is a cover 2 guy. We need to make a trade, and fast.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
18.PlunkforHOF Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
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Ḉ ⃝ḊḜ ḂḺḀḈḰ ❷⓪❶❶
August 17th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Lady Raccoon came back to the blog?
That chick knows better after I chased her out years ago. She wanted to meet up years ago in her hometown of East Sacramento at a Burger King to make out.
So hilarious, love bagging on that silly pants.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Anyone know the deal with MM34 is he on the fence of possibly getting cut that’s what I got from the article
August 17th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
this team went 8-8 last year and has improved. what many of u don’t realize is that they are improving w/ the same players. the team is young, but will get better just by being a year older. the o-line is virtually the same. it was the #2 rushing team last year. the passing game will be much better b/c jc is in it for the 2nd year and the wr’s are developing. the run defense should be better b/c the d-line should be dominant and mcclain/wimbley in their 2nd year. pass defense may miss namdi but rush is great and the db’s are good, if not great.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
10-6.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
This time, Moore broke off an out-and-up route when he saw the pass was behind him, planted himself and made a diving catch toward the sideline and the line of scrimmage. The play didn’t net many yards, but it elicited plenty of oohs and aahs.
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One, it doesn’t say who threw the ball.
Two, it sounds like he was running the wrong route and adjusted in time to make the catch.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Lady Raccoon came back to the blog?
That chick knows better after I chased her out years ago. She wanted to meet up years ago in her hometown of East Sacramento at a Burger King to make out.
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I knew you had it in you to be gay. Either be your gay or repent and wash that dirt from your soul while you still got time.
I told you about Kool Can Ray that he got porked his first night in the joint and had a limp ever since. Thought he was a ladies man on the outside but on the inside he was a mans b1tch. Wouldn’t wish that on the dirtiest of enemies.
But I have gone straight since I got out but I can spot a latent homasexual when I see one. Just sayin…………
August 17th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Rob,
This team has taken a step back if anything. Their 3 best players have all left. The WRs are terrible and the DBs are nowhere NEAR good, yet alone great. Are you serious with a 10-6 prediction? LOL!
August 17th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Hey Corky..
Whaddaya mean Mitchell’s “future is uncertain?” In your previous blog entry you mention Mitchell being out but provided no detail, then in this post you question his future as a player. Give us some details, what do you know?
August 17th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
28.Barry Halverson Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Rob,
This team has taken a step back if anything. Their 3 best players have all left. The WRs are terrible and the DBs are nowhere NEAR good, yet alone great. Are you serious with a 10-6 prediction? LOL!
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Look MR, this team gonna be OK. They got rid of their loser coach and dumped the prima donna, and Boss better than Zach. Woodson goin to get these fellows in shape. Now dont you fret none.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
GGGGggggooooooooooooooooo
RRRRRRRrrrrraaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Boss is better than Miller and Ashmougha is a prima donna?? Those 2 statements alone prove you know nothin…MR.
August 17th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Brian the Genital, your super gay blog personality – cell mate dope – really is super, super gay. Like seriously gay.
In the gayest way possible.
Anyway, not sure why you created this new weiner loving personality, but I’ve gotta give you credit.
It’s the gayest one every seen in the history of the blog. Only much, much gayer.
HIP HIP HOPPIN DON’T STOP ROCKIN
August 17th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
First time poster in here. Finally takin a break in the basement at work to post here. Been a reader a long time and just want to say great site. Keep up the good work. Well, I’m on night shift duty so I better get back to the lobby before some drunk tennants get here and walk into the door, then my butt would be on the line. The boss would love to fire me cause I’m a Raider fan and we’re in jets and giants country. But they suck. Later gents!
August 17th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Well guess what, I just got promoted to doorman so I’ll be able to screw around more and get to the computer to post more. The boss got fired because he was making me do doorman duties for bell hop wages. So now I get more pay and that jackass is out of my life.
Mister Beechum is super gay.
Go Raiders!
August 17th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I have made multiple comments on my concern in regards to our corners. This CJ thing is not good, we are razor thin at this possession. I love Hues energy but a salesman knows a salesman and Hue is a good one. When he says CJ is fine and will be back soon I don’t see it. I hope that what my gut tells me is wrong. I love the Raiders and can’t wait for Monday, September 12th
August 17th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
J-Raider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
we should expect to see a vet cb & wr anytime now…
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Where is Rolando Hill, and Travis Taylor???
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Who are the dark horses to join the team
August 17th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Get a another CB in camp uncle Al, do it now
August 17th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Hey Steve, could you throw in a little more MM34 info in the next update? That tease could cause a scandal on this blog.
August 17th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
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August 17th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Ashley Lelie
Sammy Parker
Drew Carter
Heck maybe Will Franklin is lookin to make a comeback??
August 17th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Hey where’s Javon Walker?
August 17th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
In Vegas looking for his watch.
August 17th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
In other news….
Hue Jackson, speaking from Parkland Hospital, said that President Kennedy is “just a little nicked up” and should be fine.
August 17th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
I’m getting a bit skeptical of Hue Jackson’s “next man up” policy. We all criticised Cable for being undisciplined and a dolt, and gave credit to Hue as some kind of wondercoach. But Cable got his players to play hard for him. After enough people go down, and Hue keeps mouthing off at practice and “Next Man up!” yelling, it gets hard to work for someone like that.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:16 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.ANYBODY AWAKE ?
August 18th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Mornin dirt lot. Mornin nation
August 18th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Hopefully for the most part. A lot of these injured players will be healthy by 9/12
or at least week 2.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:30 am
is it on purpose they crash the site during european day-hours?
August 18th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Morning Dirt Lot, R8der cain
August 18th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Iowa seems to be up and running this morning.
August 18th, 2011 at 6:41 am
L M N,HOW R THINGS ON YOUR SIDE OF THE POND ?
August 18th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Just say N.O to T.O. don’t need him……….period
Dmoore is a much more exciting and talented rec’r
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Priest,
Denny Moore is a much more exciting and talented WR than Terrell Owens?
he’s a 5th round rookie thats 4th on the depth chart (5th if Chaz is healthy) and he has one catch in one preseason game. I think it’s a bit early to say he’s better than Owens, who is 2nd all-time in receptions, yards and TD’s (behind only Jerry Rice)
you guys are ridiculous with your anti-T.O. rhetoric
the passing game was lousy last year.
que Beyonce “lemme upgrade ya”
August 18th, 2011 at 6:47 am
T.O. is a loser? The guy has been to the playoffs more times than anyone on the Raiders roster save Seymour.
The guy works his a$$ off, that’s anti-cancer.
Eagles and Cowboys had their best years in a decade when T.O. was there.
His worst season ever was better than our WR’s best season ever. He would easily outproduce Murphy, Schilens, Miller, and DHB.
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Agreed with Alex7!
August 18th, 2011 at 6:52 am
BY THE WAY,YOU GUYS ARE RIDICULOUS…
August 18th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Al Saunders thinks McFadden has the potential to be as explosive as former NFL running backs Marshall Faulk, Marcus Allen and Priest Holmes.
“Darren’s a very, very gifted player,” Saunders said. “He demonstrated that last year. The thing that he has is such tremendous explosiveness. In the open field, gosh there aren’t many players that have that kind of explosive speed from a stop and a start in the open field. His potential is unlimited, I really do.”
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BSJ,
thoughts ???
August 18th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Al Saunders also thinks that receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey is on the cusp of developing into a regular contributor.
“The thing that I told him the other day, ‘I watched every single play that you have run in two years here with the Oakland Raiders and there is unlimited talent in that body.’ ” Saunders said. ”What we need to do is make sure, as coaches, we’re doing everything we can to put him in a position where he can do the things that he does best and the things he needs to learn and develop. Then, we’ve got to make sure that we spend time and attention developing those skills.”
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Go Sanjay!
August 18th, 2011 at 7:21 am
its going, let me say it like that..
August 18th, 2011 at 7:27 am
McBrokedown < Faulk, etc
I see Taiwegian Jones as a better rb
August 18th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Congrats on the new ships lmn. MAN power?
August 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Alexander is wrong RRS and you know it! TO works hard for the gratification of TO he doesnt care about his teammates at all. That knee is done. you gonna believe that scumbag lying agent that he will be ready to play that fast in his late 30s off a majory knee injury? Come on and wake up
August 18th, 2011 at 7:33 am
TO would have been perfect for the 2001 veteran-laden Raiders team.
Not so much on this young, impressionable 2011 team.
Keep TO away.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
DMC is one of the top 3-5 HB’s in the league, I love TJ’s potential and ability. To say he’s in DMC’s class already is premature just to insinuate. If DMC does what I think he’s going to do this year if healthy all year. he may in the top 3 for sure. DMC definiteely has Faulk type ability always did I said that before he was drafted. He just wasn’t IMO a 25 carry per game back and he’s proven he can’t carry that load. That’s why I held Bush in such high asteem because he is that type of back. Marshall’s game entailed rec’g as well as running and DMC is very much like that. TJ is of that same cloth but hasn’t set foot on an NFL field. Until he does that’s high praise he has the potential but he has to display it in the NFL.
We’ve yet to see or hearof what he can do in practice I can’t wait to see if I’m right about him.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
I’m a lil concerened with the amount of “knicks” we’re getting, especially to some of the playmakers. I know it’s football and Hue is right, next man up! There’s some players that we can’t live without, Ford, McFadden, Bush, Huff, CJ, Routt, etc…
If they can get through camp somewhat healthy i think we’ll be in good shape. I’m sure he’s trying the uptempo practice to get these guys up to speed and up to Hue’s standards of playing level.
Corrrect me if i’m wrong… I think the reg season will be a lil easier on them. Don’t they usually have Mon off, film and game planning tue and wed, with practice the rest of the week? If that’s the case a few days can give their bodies time for a rest.
I know the 1st part of the season will be rough with some short weeks to prepare, but i think that’s why Hue is going all out right now.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
which is saying something given the news that starting wide receiver Louis Murphy
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Corkran is pretty funny with his annointment of Lou Murphy as the starter.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Corkran, based on his live chat, is very fond of Moore and not so much with DHB.
The whole notion of DHB as a “deep threat” is getting beaten to the pavement the past a day or two by Jerry and Steve in the twitterverse and in the fish wraps.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:40 am
DHB = possession WR, with YAC potential.
DHB = incapable of consitantly making plays on jump balls, outleaping defenders to the peak of the ball, and bringing down the catch, to warrant getting those plays called for him anymore.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:43 am
draft Pryor in the sup, with a 5th round pick and make him a TE!
August 18th, 2011 at 7:44 am
LOL!
Corkran didn’t mention DHB in that whole piece, and called him the 5th WR in his chat yesterday.
I think Corkran is 89052.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Steve did tweet that DHB had a solid practice yesterday.
Which means, in the world of DHB, he caught 1 pass and excelled in down-field blocking.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:48 am
With Murphy out, the Raiders are in sore need of getting back from injury Chaz Schilens and Jacoby Ford.
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DANG!
so who will be starting against SF?
DHB & Moore?
August 18th, 2011 at 7:50 am
44.Kirk Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
In other news….
Hue Jackson, speaking from Parkland Hospital, said that President Kennedy is “just a little nicked up” and should be fine.
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LMAO
August 18th, 2011 at 7:50 am
This whole thing with the U goes to show that paying players from the NCAA won’t change any of this.
You think players are going to turn down yacht trips full of hookers, because they got a $5,000 stipend once a semester for playing ball??
LMAO!!!
They should start suspending players once they get to the NFL (costing them big bucks in the draft slotting scale) for college infractions if they ever want to do anything about it.
BTW, Miami Hurricans football team LOST MONEY last year, according to their financials. So not like THESE PARTICULAR GUYS on the team were making the university any money what-so-ever.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
yup, DHB and Moore are your starting receivers. With a heavy dose of Bodiford. They all need more practice anyway
August 18th, 2011 at 7:58 am
J,
In case you were worried, AIG seems to be doing fine.
Not going to golf with him (just closed on this house and got way too much going on), but I might go grab a drink with him (do Asians drink???) and take him to the strip jant.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:00 am
What a morning…finally got to sign on!
Anyways…A little concerned about all these “nicks”…
Who the heck is starting in SF???
August 18th, 2011 at 8:01 am
JFB Says:
They should start suspending players once they get to the NFL (costing them big bucks in the draft slotting scale) for college infractions if they ever want to do anything about it.
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Whoaaaaaa there, settle down. I don’t think players should be suspended for all their cheating ways at dirty Universities like Michigan. Why punish the Raiders organization and the fans for what the players did in college?
The rule should be if at any time it is proven that you took money or improper benefits during your college career, your scholarship is retroactively voided and you have to pay the tuition money back to the University and the University must give that money out to the students as grants.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Oh yeah…Really? Josh McCown is now a Niner? Over Daunte? LOL
August 18th, 2011 at 8:03 am
75.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:58 am
J,
In case you were worried, AIG seems to be doing fine.
Not going to golf with him (just closed on this house and got way too much going on), but I might go grab a drink with him (do Asians drink???) and take him to the strip jant.
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You should ask him his opinion on wife beating first.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Poor Daunte Culpepper, he STILL can’t beat out Josh McCown! lol
August 18th, 2011 at 8:10 am
These little and big nicks are a continuation of of a club policy on injuries. Give out no information helpful to other teams.
Big Nick:
ACL
Broken Back
Compound Fractures of extremeties
Death
Diagnosis: Week to Week
Little Nick:
Hamstring
Broken Hand
concussion of any kind
torn muscle
sprains
hernias
any surgery
Diagnosis: Day to Day
August 18th, 2011 at 8:13 am
In case you were worried, AIG seems to be doing fine.
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Glad to hear it.
Go Raiders!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
71.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:48 am
With Murphy out, the Raiders are in sore need of getting back from injury Chaz Schilens and Jacoby Ford.
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DANG!
so who will be starting against SF?
DHB & Moore?
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Of course lol
August 18th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I can see Miami taking a chance on Pryor. I think their system is a good fit.
Looks as if their fans are not pleased with Henne, chanting we want Favre and booing Henne during practices.
The 6 game ban is a joke cause he won’t sniff the field much right away anyhow.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Correction 5 game ban on Pryor.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:16 am
73.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:50 am
This whole thing with the U goes to show that paying players from the NCAA won’t change any of this.
You think players are going to turn down yacht trips full of hookers, because they got a $5,000 stipend once a semester for playing ball??
LMAO!!!
They should start suspending players once they get to the NFL (costing them big bucks in the draft slotting scale) for college infractions if they ever want to do anything about it.
BTW, Miami Hurricans football team LOST MONEY last year, according to their financials. So not like THESE PARTICULAR GUYS on the team were making the university any money what-so-ever.
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Bullschit the NFL cant dock them games or money for stuff that happened in college……man get outta with that BS
August 18th, 2011 at 8:16 am
You should ask him his opinion on wife beating first.
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I think I’m missing the punchline here.
Clue me in, please.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:16 am
exLA..
LOL
August 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:40 am
DHB = possession WR, with YAC potential.
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Been saying for a while now that we need to stop sending this guy on vertical routes. Throw the ball to him on routes that are 10 yds or less like slants and drags and let him run WITH the ball instead of trying to run TO the ball.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:18 am
NFL can do whatever it wants.
Didn’t they just slap a 6 gamer on Pryor???
Don’t guys get suspended, or at least entered into the drug policy, if they get popped at the combine?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:18 am
89.J Hill Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:40 am
DHB = possession WR, with YAC potential.
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Been saying for a while now that we need to stop sending this guy on vertical routes. Throw the ball to him on routes that are 10 yds or less like slants and drags and let him run WITH the ball instead of trying to run TO the ball.
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How about a drag route to the bench? That suits him well
August 18th, 2011 at 8:19 am
90.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:18 am
NFL can do whatever it wants.
Didn’t they just slap a 6 gamer on Pryor???
Don’t guys get suspended, or at least entered into the drug policy, if they get popped at the combine?
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NCAA and NFL are not the same crime families….NFL combine is not the NCAA combine….no way should they suspend players for stuff that happened at the U or any school
August 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Yeah the NFL needs to let the NCAA guys take care of their own yard.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
80.Dakota Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Poor Daunte Culpepper, he STILL can’t beat out Josh McCown! lol
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Damn shame cuz he was garbage here and still better than Josh McClown
August 18th, 2011 at 8:21 am
93.Raiderbuck Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Yeah the NFL needs to let the NCAA guys take care of their own yard.
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Exactly
August 18th, 2011 at 8:21 am
With all these “nicks” good chance Nick Miller is going to be exremely important the first few weeks of the season.
He got a lot of run with the 1’s last week, made a nice 3rd down catch (OK not that nice; but he caught it), will get a lot of work with the 1’s this weekend as well.
The DB killer will be on full display the first few weeks, into Murphy is healthy, and who knows if Ford will be full-strength either.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
All those who think that Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford, and Chaz Schillens won’t see significant playing time on opening day regardless of who starts, please head down to your local Rite Aid for your DHB’itis shot. They are free on Thursdays from 10am to 2:30pm.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
65.J Hill Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:36 am
which is saying something given the news that starting wide receiver Louis Murphy
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Corkran is pretty funny with his annointment of Lou Murphy as the starter.
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Been starting day 1 and that shouldnt change….DHB doesnt deserve to be the towel boy at this point…….Murphy,Moore,ford and Chaz if healthy should be our top 4 guys….sadly Chaz wont be healthy so it will be DHB at 4th eventho Hagan prolly should be above him too
August 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
TO works hard for the gratification of TO he doesnt care about his teammates at all. That knee is done. you gonna believe that scumbag lying agent that he will be ready to play that fast in his late 30s off a majory knee injury?
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ROG,
Owens works hard and produces, period. that’s all you need to know. nothing else matters
and NO – I don’t beleive Drew Roseycheeks. Owens himself said that. He posted those videos of himself working out. Peep that link from PFT last week. He’s running & cutting full speed already. Wes Welker came back pretty quick from a torn ACL, so T.O. won’t be the first. This guy is a warrior like Favre
Don’t bother responding
August 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Where is Raider O? I thought he was released from blog pergatory.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Is Jacoby going to be ready to play a lot here soon??
Kind of worried about him falling behind, and not really emerging as a WR this year, and still being our returner/big-play/trick-play guy.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:26 am
101.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Is Jacoby going to be ready to play a lot here soon??
Kind of worried about him falling behind, and not really emerging as a WR this year, and still being our returner/big-play/trick-play guy.
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He is still eons ahead of DHB so he aint falling behind
August 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
If Chaz is healthy, and with Moore emerging, even if fully healthy, that means less snaps for Lou Murphy, Ford and DHB anyways, right?
They can’t all be on the field.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
yup, DHB and Moore are your starting receivers. With a heavy dose of Bodiford. They all need more practice anyway
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SR,
We should get to see plenty of Derek Hagan, Ed McGee & Damola Adeniji as well
Nick Miller will have just enough rope to hang himself. Cut white webster!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
I will laugh if Cooper Carlisle, Satele and Nick Miller start week 1. All deemed “Cable” pets in here.
Mistic’s head might explode.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Where is Raider O? I thought he was released from blog pergatory
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Exla,
waiting for him to produce a birth certificate
ask Prez BO where you can have one of them thangs printed …
August 18th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Day 1 of what, this camp?
Does that count since DHB was hurt?
Chaz and Ford were healthy then, and you’re telling me Lou Murphy is starting over those 2?
That shouldn’t happen either.
I’d say our top 3 WRs should be Chaz, Moore, and Ford in the slot.
If Chaz is hurt, I’d prefer to see what DHB can do that Murphy. Just not a big fan of Murphy since the preaseason game against the Saints a couple years ago. Drop after drop in that game and not much has changed since then. Also seems to be just as injury prone as the anyone on the team.
I like Hagan and Bodiford so far. I also like the prospects of this McGhee kid.
Murphy is just as much on the bubble as DHB is, imo.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I will laugh if Cooper Carlisle, Satele and Nick Miller start week 1.
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JFB,
if Nick Miller starts Week 1, i’m rooting for Champ Bailey to break his friggin leg!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Our rotation week 1 at WR just might be DHB and Nick Miller starting, with Moore in the slot, and Hagan and Bodiford for depth.
Assuming Chaz stays hurt, Murph out, and Ford still sidelined, or not in the WR rotation due to lack of reps.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Josh McCown is now a Niner? Over Daunte?
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Hwnrdr,
McClown was better than Coldpecker in Oakland too.
RRS = not surprised
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
106.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Where is Raider O? I thought he was released from blog pergatory
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Exla,
waiting for him to produce a birth certificate
ask Prez BO where you can have one of them thangs printed …
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LMFAO
August 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Worried about Murphy’s inability to stay healthy as well.
But, that dude competes on the field, has the swagger, and the 4th quarter production in Silver and Black to warrant a ton of playing-time when healthy.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Yahoo sports “fantasy football expert” when asked any rookies to look out for said: Julio Jones Mark Ingram and Denarius Moore. The secrets out
August 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
J Hill Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
All those who think that Denarius Moore, Jacoby Ford, and Chaz Schillens won’t see significant playing time on opening day regardless of who starts, please head down to your local Rite Aid for your DHB’itis shot. They are free on Thursdays from 10am to 2:30pm.
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you actually think, Chaz will start? Im not talking about line-up, im talking about health?!?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
103.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
If Chaz is healthy, and with Moore emerging, even if fully healthy, that means less snaps for Lou Murphy, Ford and DHB anyways, right?
They can’t all be on the field.
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I’d disagree with Ford.
I think we are going to see alot of 3 WR packages with Ford in the slot. All those plays you saw them running with Nicky Miller will be Ford instead.
Ford will also be in a lot of 2 WR sets going in motion. I think Corkran was all over that early.
Lou Murphy will definitely be the odd man out as DHB will get more chances to produce in the rotation due to him being a high draft pick.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
99.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:23 am
TO works hard for the gratification of TO he doesnt care about his teammates at all. That knee is done. you gonna believe that scumbag lying agent that he will be ready to play that fast in his late 30s off a majory knee injury?
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ROG,
Owens works hard and produces, period. that’s all you need to know. nothing else matters
and NO – I don’t beleive Drew Roseycheeks. Owens himself said that. He posted those videos of himself working out. Peep that link from PFT last week. He’s running & cutting full speed already. Wes Welker came back pretty quick from a torn ACL, so T.O. won’t be the first. This guy is a warrior like Favre
Don’t bother responding
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You cant mention me directly then tell me not to respond lol
Warrior like favre you mean the MVP and SB champ? No He isnt. Teammates loved Favre and people hate TO with a passion……Mentioning Wes Welker is laughable….his numbers dropped and he was nowhere near the same player as 2009 and Welker is 7 years younger than TO! TO bout to be 38 my friend…..damn near 40!
Spare me a fkin link with no hitting him or guarding him for real…its gonna be a disaster for TO and he will injure that knee again this year
August 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
You thought so, Rockstar? Well, Daunte did all of a sudden come up with that mysterious injury after the KC game…LOL
August 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
110.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Josh McCown is now a Niner? Over Daunte?
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Hwnrdr,
McClown was better than Coldpecker in Oakland too.
RRS = not surprised
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No fking way was he better…..McClown stunk up the entire joint
August 18th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hue’s bully ball training camp:
heyer out at RT, Barksdale or Barnes in =next man up!
Satele out at C, Wiz in at C Loper at LG=next man up!
Murphy out, DMoore in=next man up!
Chaz out, DHB in=next man up!
DMAC out, Bush in=next man up!
CJ out, DVD in at CB Huff at Nickel/Brown at FS=YIKES!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
With all these “nicks” good chance Nick Miller is going to be exremely important the first few weeks of the season.
He got a lot of run with the 1’s last week, made a nice 3rd down catch (OK not that nice; but he caught it), will get a lot of work with the 1’s this weekend as well.
The DB killer will be on full display the first few weeks, into Murphy is healthy, and who knows if Ford will be full-strength either.
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JFB,
Nick Miller is trash. the guy has 3 catches and 2 fumbles in TWO seasons with the Silver & Black
If you’re projecting he’ll start over Denny Moore, then Moore is all hype. Assuming Murphy, Ford & Schilens all miss the opener (which isn’t likely) I hope we keep Hagan or Bodiford around instead of white webster!
Shoot, I’ll even take McGee or Jackson at this point …
August 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
115.J Hill Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
103.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:27 am
If Chaz is healthy, and with Moore emerging, even if fully healthy, that means less snaps for Lou Murphy, Ford and DHB anyways, right?
They can’t all be on the field.
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I’d disagree with Ford.
I think we are going to see alot of 3 WR packages with Ford in the slot. All those plays you saw them running with Nicky Miller will be Ford instead.
Ford will also be in a lot of 2 WR sets going in motion. I think Corkran was all over that early.
Lou Murphy will definitely be the odd man out as DHB will get more chances to produce in the rotation due to him being a high draft pick.
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Oh please stop this this crap….Murphy odd man out for DHB? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
August 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
If anyone’s interested in seeing Nnamndi and this so called “Dream Team” play, they’re on Fox tonight vs. Pitt.
I’d like to see what this hype is about.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Im not talking about line-up, im talking about health?!?
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I’m hoping so.
I wouldn’t bet on it.
I think they’ll shut him down for the rest of the preseason at a minimum.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Chaz out, DHB in=next man up!
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DHB is a little boy
August 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
109.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Our rotation week 1 at WR just might be DHB and Nick Miller starting, with Moore in the slot, and Hagan and Bodiford for depth.
Assuming Chaz stays hurt, Murph out, and Ford still sidelined, or not in the WR rotation due to lack of reps.
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Put the crack down…Nicki Miller aint starting ever
August 18th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Nicki Miller starting over Dmoore hahahahahahahahahahahaha
August 18th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Ford aint missing the opener….bank on it
August 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
*Second-year offensive lineman Bruce Campbell looked pretty good in practice, especially in a one-on-one pass protection drill agaisnt defensive end Lamaar Houston.
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It’s good to know Campbell is holding his own!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
its gonna be a disaster for TO and he will injure that knee again this year
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ROG,
Owens is gonna be cheap and he’s a low risk/high reward signing.
If he’s not any better than Ford, Murphy, Schilens, Moore or DHB?
Hue Jackson shouldn’t play him!
Odds are that 38 year old dude coming off of a torn ACL will outplay every one of our young wideouts, even if he didn’t start a game until Week 4 – Print That
August 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Kirk Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
In other news….
Hue Jackson, speaking from Parkland Hospital, said that President Kennedy is “just a little nicked up” and should be fine.
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LMAO!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:43 am
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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How much thought went into that response?
“DHB sucks” and “LOLOLOLOLOL” is pretty much all you have these days.
Nevermind the fact that DHB is actually having good practices and had a good first preseason game IN THE COACHES eyes. Nevermind the fact the DHB is a higher draft pick than Murphy and all the stuff that would go along with a team trying to develop him.
DHB will be no lower than 4th on the depth chart and is going to be on the field a lot.
PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Remember how CJ looked after coming back from injury last year? This for me is by far the most concerning injury. I just picture DVD getting ran over by RB’s
August 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
McClown stunk up the entire joint
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ROG,
I’m not suggesting that McCown was good. Just that he was better than Daunte!
Coldpecker did pretty well in both “revenge” games – Miami & Minnesota, but outside of those two he was downright JaMarcus bad.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Pryor will be eligible on Monday for any team that wants to spend a 2012 draft pick to acquire him.
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I’ll be willing to give up a 3rd RD. pick for him!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Put the crack down…Nicki Miller aint starting ever
Nicki Miller starting over Dmoore hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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ROG seems to be waking up
good coffee?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:46 am
129.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:42 am
its gonna be a disaster for TO and he will injure that knee again this year
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ROG,
Owens is gonna be cheap and he’s a low risk/high reward signing.
If he’s not any better than Ford, Murphy, Schilens, Moore or DHB?
Hue Jackson shouldn’t play him!
Odds are that 38 year old dude coming off of a torn ACL will outplay every one of our young wideouts, even if he didn’t start a game until Week 4 – Print That
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No way will he outplay our young WRs except DHB……TO is an underneath dink and dunk WR whose speed and quickness is gone now. Maybe you need to look at our offense buddy and what we do.
I’ll bust TO’s knee cap so he will never play a down for the Raiders…….PRINT THAT
August 18th, 2011 at 8:46 am
87.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:16 am
You should ask him his opinion on wife beating first.
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I think I’m missing the punchline here.
Clue me in, please.
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If you don’t remember what he talked about during the Tom Cable wife beating scandal you will have to ask him about it.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Murph out is not that bad since dhb is a simliar wr, decent size w/speed that is polishing up his route running and catching. Ford is good as long as its no leg injury keeping him on the side line.
Raider nation you MUST remember we have 2 extra receivers on the field with DMAC & Reece.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Murph out is not that bad since dhb is a simliar wr, decent size w/speed that is polishing up his route running and catching. Ford is good as long as its no leg injury keeping him on the side line.
Raider nation you MUST remember we have 2 extra receivers on the field with DMAC & Reece.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Pryor will be eligible on Monday for any team that wants to spend a 2012 draft pick to acquire him.
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ray,
I’ll take Pryor in the Supp draft, too.
Campbell, Boller & Edwards are all UFA’s this upcoming offseason. no guarantee ANY of them will be welcome back!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
133.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:44 am
McClown stunk up the entire joint
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ROG,
I’m not suggesting that McCown was good. Just that he was better than Daunte!
Coldpecker did pretty well in both “revenge” games – Miami & Minnesota, but outside of those two he was downright JaMarcus bad.
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We were gonna lose vs Cleveland and would have lost 2nd time vs KC with McClown at qb…..watching McClown play qb with Farglass as RB was embarrassing to ever see
August 18th, 2011 at 8:51 am
139.DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Murph out is not that bad since dhb is a simliar wr, decent size w/speed that is polishing up his route running and catching. Ford is good as long as its no leg injury keeping him on the side line.
Raider nation you MUST remember we have 2 extra receivers on the field with DMAC & Reece.
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DHB sux
August 18th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Pryor supplimently sucks as well as a QB
August 18th, 2011 at 8:52 am
TO is an underneath dink and dunk WR whose speed and quickness is gone now. Maybe you need to look at our offense buddy and what we do.
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ROG,
did you watch Owens play for Cincy last year?
guy has plenty of speed. after the ACL? maybe not… we’ll see
The last thing the Raiders need is another speed burner wideout that can’t catch anyways. Owens is your possession receiver. He’ll move the chains on 3rd down. Let DHB, Ford, Murphy & Moore run down those underthrown “bombs” from Jason Campbell!
JCamp is labeled a checkdown king anyways. If T.O. is going across the middle, I’d say he’ll get plenty of looks. Kevin Boss too!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:54 am
watching McClown play qb with Farglass as RB was embarrassing to ever see
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worse than Andrew Walter & LaMont Jordan in 2006?
Nah!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:55 am
J Hill Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Im not talking about line-up, im talking about health?!?
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I’m hoping so.
I wouldn’t bet on it.
I think they’ll shut him down for the rest of the preseason at a minimum.
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I like the kid, but I would cut him, I dont see why we waste so much practice time on a guy that most likely only will contribute in two games… or more likely 30 offensive snaps..
August 18th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Man this team has had some stinkers! “Moore” importantly, it’s come a long ways since then!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:57 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Pryor supplimently sucks as well as a QB
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if he is there in the 5th I would pull the trigger and make him a TE…
August 18th, 2011 at 9:01 am
if he is there in the 5th I would pull the trigger and make him a TE
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LMN,
Ausberry is a lock at TE behind Boss and Myers & Gordon are fighting for the 3rd spot imo (probably comes down to special teams play or blocking)
don’t take Pryor to play TE. If you’re worried about keeping 4 QB’s on the roster, label Pryor your 6th Wr instead of Nick Miller and let’s roll.
TP can learn QB next offseason. Won’t hurt his game to think like a receiver for the next 6 months anyway!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:02 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:57 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Pryor supplimently sucks as well as a QB
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if he is there in the 5th I would pull the trigger and make him a TE…
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How many more TE’s do we need?
I’m sure he’s not as bad as JaFatso!
Keep the kid as a 3rd back-up and let him earn what he deserves!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Anybody else worth looking at in Monday’s Supp draft?
Western Carolina defensive back Torez Jones, Georgia running back Caleb King, Lindenwood defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Mike McAdoo and Northern Illinois defensive back Tracy Wilson.
Never even heard of these guys …
August 18th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Pryor is suspended for the first 5 games anyways. (Wont count against the 53)
who knows?
By then we may have lost Campbell, Boller or Edwards and NEED a 3rd qb to carry on the roster Weeks 6-16 ?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Yahoo’s Mike Silver thinks the Raiders are going to the AFC Championship, but a slide back to 5-11 irrelevance seems more likely
-Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Ouch!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Josh McCown is now a Niner? Over Daunte?
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Hwnrdr,
McClown was better than Coldpecker in Oakland too.
RRS = not surprised
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No way. McCown was one of the worst QBs to ever wear a Raiders uniform, in terms of performance. He was God awful. He was outplayed by both Culpepper AND Russell. McCown was dreadful, but Kiffin kept starting him, but Culpepper had that good game against MIA, which was one of the few highlights from that dreadful season.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
144.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:52 am
TO is an underneath dink and dunk WR whose speed and quickness is gone now. Maybe you need to look at our offense buddy and what we do.
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ROG,
did you watch Owens play for Cincy last year?
guy has plenty of speed. after the ACL? maybe not… we’ll see
The last thing the Raiders need is another speed burner wideout that can’t catch anyways. Owens is your possession receiver. He’ll move the chains on 3rd down. Let DHB, Ford, Murphy & Moore run down those underthrown “bombs” from Jason Campbell!
JCamp is labeled a checkdown king anyways. If T.O. is going across the middle, I’d say he’ll get plenty of looks. Kevin Boss too!
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TO not gonna have the speed or quickness to do a damn thing like you think he will underneath or not
Yeah I watched TO last year….Single coverage all year due to Chad getting all the defenses slanted to him. He is not seeing single coverage over here bruh
August 18th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Hue: Next man Up!! I said…..
Danny Southwick: I’m in coach!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:09 am
145.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:54 am
watching McClown play qb with Farglass as RB was embarrassing to ever see
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worse than Andrew Walter & LaMont Jordan in 2006?
Nah!
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Gimme Jordan and Walter all day over McClown and Farglass
August 18th, 2011 at 9:11 am
153.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Yahoo’s Mike Silver thinks the Raiders are going to the AFC Championship, but a slide back to 5-11 irrelevance seems more likely
-Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Ouch!
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Man fk Rosenthal
August 18th, 2011 at 9:12 am
I think Rosenthal has a point though…
August 18th, 2011 at 9:13 am
McCown was one of the worst QBs to ever wear a Raiders uniform, in terms of performance. He was God awful. He was outplayed by both Culpepper AND Russell. McCown was dreadful, but Kiffin kept starting him
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JDB,
Agree on the first sentence or two, but there is NO CHANCE he was ever outplayed by Coldpecker or JaWalrus!
Kiffin started him because he was the best of the scrubs…
August 18th, 2011 at 9:13 am
154.John David Booty Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Josh McCown is now a Niner? Over Daunte?
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Hwnrdr,
McClown was better than Coldpecker in Oakland too.
RRS = not surprised
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No way. McCown was one of the worst QBs to ever wear a Raiders uniform, in terms of performance. He was God awful. He was outplayed by both Culpepper AND Russell. McCown was dreadful, but Kiffin kept starting him, but Culpepper had that good game against MIA, which was one of the few highlights from that dreadful season.
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Exactly…..McClown was embarrassing to watch….remember that Denver game? My god that was awful and he had the game won but his dead arm couldnt hit pass to porter
August 18th, 2011 at 9:14 am
159.guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:12 am
I think Rosenthal has a point though…
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Yeah its penetrating his rectrum
August 18th, 2011 at 9:15 am
I love the Raiders. But it’s tough to ignore all the injuries, the weak secondary, the unsettled O-line, the schedule, and ignore it all. and Hue’s “next man up” motto is getting old.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:17 am
We have three good qbs and three TE
The last thing we need on this team is big eared knucklehead named Tyrell
Pyror = Maurice Clampett the last buckeye wannabee who went to the SD after screwing over the team
August 18th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Remember how CJ looked after coming back from injury last year? This for me is by far the most concerning injury.
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Agreed.
We don’t need to start a rookie at CB any time soon.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Yeah I watched TO last year….Single coverage all year due to Chad getting all the defenses slanted to him. He is not seeing single coverage over here bruh
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Good!
McFadden, Reece, Boss and whatever other WR’s we have on the field at that time will appreciate that!
So you don’t think Owens will produce, but other teams will STILL respect him enough to double him on passing plays? DANG! which is it, ROG?
If T.O. is “done” as you put it, why on earth would a DC have him doubled? Is that a sign that everybody else JCamp is throwing to is basically hot garbage?
Please explain.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:19 am
160.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:13 am
McCown was one of the worst QBs to ever wear a Raiders uniform, in terms of performance. He was God awful. He was outplayed by both Culpepper AND Russell. McCown was dreadful, but Kiffin kept starting him
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JDB,
Agree on the first sentence or two, but there is NO CHANCE he was ever outplayed by Coldpecker or JaWalrus!
Kiffin started him because he was the best of the scrubs…
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You cant be serious……McClown played good in only one game and that was the first ever Russell appearance when he actually energized the coliseum for once….that was vs Denver…outside of that McClwon stunk every game every minute
August 18th, 2011 at 9:20 am
The last thing we need on this team is big eared knucklehead named Tyrell
Pyror = Maurice Clampett the last buckeye wannabee who went to the SD after screwing over the team
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LOL!
Plunk is racist?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Andrew Walters could have been great!!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:21 am
166.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Yeah I watched TO last year….Single coverage all year due to Chad getting all the defenses slanted to him. He is not seeing single coverage over here bruh
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Good!
McFadden, Reece, Boss and whatever other WR’s we have on the field at that time will appreciate that!
So you don’t think Owens will produce, but other teams will STILL respect him enough to double him on passing plays? DANG! which is it, ROG?
If T.O. is “done” as you put it, why on earth would a DC have him doubled? Is that a sign that everybody else JCamp is throwing to is basically hot garbage?
Please explain.
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They are gonna double him becuz of old reputation and the Raider youngins are still unproven….duh. And when TO aint getting the ball what will happen? Explain what we have already seen for over a decade now
No TO wont produce….you thinking he will get 70 catches and 9 tds….never will happen and not with our offense
August 18th, 2011 at 9:22 am
RRS you have this mind that TO is dominant and good….he not coming here and never will play here…..plus my bat is waiting for his knee….i wont let it happen
August 18th, 2011 at 9:22 am
I just hate big eared knuckleheads named Tyrell
More of a bigot then a racist
August 18th, 2011 at 9:22 am
We should take Pryor in the 5th, if he’s eligible.
He can still practice and play in the pre-season games.
Even during his suspension, he can still come to team meetings and work out; he just can’t participate in the official practices or games.
The suspension’s basically a “Who Cares;” it’s not like he was going to play this early anyway.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
you have this mind that TO is dominant and good….he not coming here and never will play here
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ROG,
Owens thinks he’s too good for Oakland, but he’s willing to play for Buffalo & Cincy?
LOL!
what are you gonna make up next mayne?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
CORRECTION: I meant “We should take Pryor in the 5th, if he’s STILL THERE.”
August 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Jared Gaither is bright-eyed, pain-free and working on a one-year contract, trying to prove (like so many other veterans disappointed at the tightwad “open” market this year) he deserves a long-term deal with guaranteed money.
Gaither was hurt last year with Baltimore and had his desire questioned by the Ravens; he reportedly flunked his physical with the Raiders last week, leading to a minimum-salary, one-year deal with the Chiefs.
“Kansas City wanted me here, and I want to be here,” he said after practice Monday. “I feel 100 percent.” He’s listed number two on the depth chart at left tackle behind Branden Albert, but he could challenge Barry Richardson and Ryan O’Callaghan on the right side.
Great, since the right side of our line is all set to go. Nice call, guys.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:24 am
RRS them 49ers are no good….bring you down everytime….what good does TO do for our young team when he has been a bad teammate everywhere he has been?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:25 am
174.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
you have this mind that TO is dominant and good….he not coming here and never will play here
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ROG,
Owens thinks he’s too good for Oakland, but he’s willing to play for Buffalo & Cincy?
LOL!
what are you gonna make up next mayne?
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You not making sense RRS….when did I said he thought he was too good to play here? Now you are making stuff up!
We dont want TO is my point and never will take him here. He is desperate to go anywhere now
August 18th, 2011 at 9:25 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:11 am
153.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Yahoo’s Mike Silver thinks the Raiders are going to the AFC Championship, but a slide back to 5-11 irrelevance seems more likely
-Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Ouch!
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Man fk Rosenthal
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Bigger Raider hater than Trey Wingo and Tom Jackson combined.
Typical Rosenthal ‘article’:
Often Misleading Title.
Lame set up.
So-and-so, a real journalist, seems to think yada yada.
Well, we think not.
Backhanded ‘compliment’/blatant insult.
I think Richochet is Greggie, LOL!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:27 am
And we talk alot about dropped passes? LOL TO drops passes like Sprint drops calls lol
August 18th, 2011 at 9:27 am
They removed a successful head coach and the offensive line is in huge transition.
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G123,
Your comment made me take a look at that article.
I LOL’d at the successful HC comment, and I LOVE the transition that the Oline is undertaking, so this article has been certified as complete BS!
- Semi Pro 214
August 18th, 2011 at 9:29 am
They are gonna double him becuz of old reputation and the Raider youngins are still unproven….duh.
No TO wont produce….you thinking he will get 70 catches and 9 tds….never will happen and not with our offense
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ROG,
so Owens WILL be doubled? OK – Gotcha
We can get him for $1 million and he’s leaving just about EVERYBODY else singled in the passing game to make plays. If they don’t, it’s THEIR fault.
I don’t expect T.O. to have 70 catches & 9 TD’s in Oakland. where did you get that? We’re a run-first team with Jason Campbell at QB. If Campbell put up those #’s to Owens with all the other threats in the passing game and a Top 3 rushing offense – we will be going to the AFC Championship as Mike Silver predicts!
… and if Hue Jackson can accomplish that as a 1st year HC under Al’s thumb, I’ll eat my crow with extra BBQ sauce please
August 18th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Smitty screw KC and washed up Gaither.
31 other teams passed on him as well.
Gaither wont help us but you can bet Al has plans
Have some faith, dont sweat that small crap
August 18th, 2011 at 9:30 am
181.J Hill Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:27 am
They removed a successful head coach and the offensive line is in huge transition.
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G123,
Your comment made me take a look at that article.
I LOL’d at the successful HC comment, and I LOVE the transition that the Oline is undertaking, so this article has been certified as complete BS!
- Semi Pro 214
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Yep
August 18th, 2011 at 9:32 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/08/17/snaps.judgments/index.html?sct=nfl_wr_a1
August 18th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Check out what they are saying about HueJax
August 18th, 2011 at 9:34 am
I’ve never liked Rosenthal. But that doesn’t change the fact he may be right this time.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:35 am
What a low life piece of crap snitch Miami has on their hands. BSPN is showing pics of the dancing dwarf on the sidelines.
He and his greeedy thinking got him 20 years and now he is gonna ruin the lives of countless human beings, lots of innocents like the new coach.
I hate to wish ill will on my fellow man but its hard to hold your tongue with scum like this.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:35 am
182.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:29 am
They are gonna double him becuz of old reputation and the Raider youngins are still unproven….duh.
No TO wont produce….you thinking he will get 70 catches and 9 tds….never will happen and not with our offense
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ROG,
so Owens WILL be doubled? OK – Gotcha
We can get him for $1 million and he’s leaving just about EVERYBODY else singled in the passing game to make plays. If they don’t, it’s THEIR fault.
I don’t expect T.O. to have 70 catches & 9 TD’s in Oakland. where did you get that? We’re a run-first team with Jason Campbell at QB. If Campbell put up those #’s to Owens with all the other threats in the passing game and a Top 3 rushing offense – we will be going to the AFC Championship as Mike Silver predicts!
… and if Hue Jackson can accomplish that as a 1st year HC under Al’s thumb, I’ll eat my crow with extra BBQ sauce please
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Why would they not double him? Its based on Reputation alone because our young guys have yet to prove themselves…duh! And when he is frustrated about not getting the ball due to double teams like in Dallas then what? Exactly…spare me this garbage. and the contract you know will be performance incentive which he wont get which will not allow TO’s ego to be stroked…..no thank you
August 18th, 2011 at 9:36 am
that frickin’ hit to taiwan jones that RoMac made is starting to really piss me off.. the kid touched the ball once and it was over.. well on the other hand, if he cant take a liq from RoMac, He Damn sure cant take a like from r.lewis, p.willis, urlacher, mathews, etc. etc..
chances are.. he aint gonna make it with the big boys..
hey, im from Miami, and let me tell u, DVD has Definitely matured since joining OAK, with the great guidance of R. Woodson. Lets hope he just another beast unleashed from the U (i.e. Ed reed, A. Johnson, R. Lewis, W. Sapp, S. Taylor, R.Wayne.. Just to name a few)and we can finally put the Nmandi era behind us, just as we did the charles woodson era.. WE BREED GREAT CB’s IN OAK!!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Owens is a loser personality thats not needed in Oakland….I’ll bash his knee so wishing for him to play here is futile becuz I’ll ruin your lil dream very fast patna
August 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
164.Plunketthead Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:17 am
We have three good qbs and three TE
The last thing we need on this team is big eared knucklehead named Tyrell
Pyror = Maurice Clampett the last buckeye wannabee who went to the SD after screwing over the team
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It was Clarett and he went to the Broncos.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
I want no part of Terrell Owens. He’s not a mentor and never will be. He’s a me-first guy, that will only stunt the development of our young guys and he’ll piss off the QB and entire sideline with his diva antics.
Say No to TO.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
190.MiamiBornRaider86 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:36 am
that frickin’ hit to taiwan jones that RoMac made is starting to really piss me off.. the kid touched the ball once and it was over.. well on the other hand, if he cant take a liq from RoMac, He Damn sure cant take a like from r.lewis, p.willis, urlacher, mathews, etc. etc..
chances are.. he aint gonna make it with the big boys..
hey, im from Miami, and let me tell u, DVD has Definitely matured since joining OAK, with the great guidance of R. Woodson. Lets hope he just another beast unleashed from the U (i.e. Ed reed, A. Johnson, R. Lewis, W. Sapp, S. Taylor, R.Wayne.. Just to name a few)and we can finally put the Nmandi era behind us, just as we did the charles woodson era.. WE BREED GREAT CB’s IN OAK!!
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Was Shapiro a beast in Miami? lol
August 18th, 2011 at 9:38 am
193.guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
I want no part of Terrell Owens. He’s not a mentor and never will be. He’s a me-first guy, that will only stunt the development of our young guys and he’ll piss off the QB and entire sideline with his diva antics.
Say No to TO.
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And he is not good anymore
August 18th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Shapiro cracked me up dubbing himself Little Luke…LOL…Luke Campbell dissed that claim in a heart beat!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:41 am
man…..
sh…
CJ37 is under the knife and he’s not ‘out’, but Murphy is ‘out’. How is that if they both have groin issues? How does anyone accurately predict who returns and when. And what about MM?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:41 am
196.hwnrdr Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Shapiro cracked me up dubbing himself Little Luke…LOL…Luke Campbell dissed that claim in a heart beat!
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“Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Sally…..that girl”
August 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Ex
thanks for the help but I called him Clampett on purpose and went to SD meant supplement draft. I was too lazy to spell out SD so its my fault for making that confusion
August 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Was Shapiro a beast in Miami? lol
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that guy is the U’s worst nightmare..
but lets be frank here, this is happening at ALL the big name universities.. this is just some jaka$$ that was in federal prison already, couldnt take it, and started singing like a canary. I heard the guys networth is $500 Millions range.. thats absurd..
August 18th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Waddup Black hole fam.
Looks like Ty Warren is gonna be out for our game against the Broncos week 1. Go ahead and add 50 more yards to each DMAC and Bush’s rushing totals!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:44 am
200.MiamiBornRaider86 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Was Shapiro a beast in Miami? lol
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that guy is the U’s worst nightmare..
but lets be frank here, this is happening at ALL the big name universities.. this is just some jaka$$ that was in federal prison already, couldnt take it, and started singing like a canary. I heard the guys networth is $500 Millions range.. thats absurd..
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Naw the SOB now messing up my family’s schit with his snitching…Frank Haith coaches Mizzou and now he gotta answer for stuff….thus possible derailing my cousin’s hoope season as the starting PG!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:44 am
hey, im from Miami, and let me tell u, DVD has Definitely matured since joining OAK, with the great guidance of R. Woodson. Lets hope he just another beast unleashed from the U (i.e. Ed reed, A. Johnson, R. Lewis, W. Sapp, S. Taylor, R.Wayne.. Just to name a few)and we can finally put the Nmandi era behind us, just as we did the charles woodson era.. WE BREED GREAT CB’s IN OAK!!
Hasn’t he been there like a whole three weeks?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:44 am
201.SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Waddup Black hole fam.
Looks like Ty Warren is gonna be out for our game against the Broncos week 1. Go ahead and add 50 more yards to each DMAC and Bush’s rushing totals!
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Hell yeah
August 18th, 2011 at 9:45 am
CB’s CJ and Chekwa down, safeties hurt’n. O-line unsettled with fresh injuries to B Campbell and Satele…would have been average at best o-line if everyone were healthy. Murphy out, Schilens hurt, DMAC and Ford not practicing.
Rosenthal wasn’t justing hating with his comments.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:46 am
yea, looks like dude tore his triceps and is gonna be out awhile…He was their only hope at attempting to stop the run. Should be another blowout field day like last year if Routt and DVD can hold up.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 am
LOL put charles woodson era behind us is right….Raiders immediately became a relevant team as soon as they drafted homeboy lol…and he still going strong to this day and doesnt rock suspects cuts like Nnamdi
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 am
The biggest problem with TO is his bipolar/skitzo issues. I give him respect for what he has done. My ex was like that.
Dont get me wrong, I have never liked him but he has stayed in the spotlight which has to be super tough for those who suffer from BP issues.
He must follow docs orders and never take recreational drugs and he gets his meds adjusted over the years while in the spotlight and TO plays HARD.
Theres just the one problem. He is a ticking time bomb
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Why would they not double him? Its based on Reputation alone because our young guys have yet to prove themselves
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ROG,
Exactly! sign the man!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Obviously.
The end
August 18th, 2011 at 9:48 am
205.guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:45 am
CB’s CJ and Chekwa down, safeties hurt’n. O-line unsettled with fresh injuries to B Campbell and Satele…would have been average at best o-line if everyone were healthy. Murphy out, Schilens hurt, DMAC and Ford not practicing.
Rosenthal wasn’t justing hating with his comments.
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Everyone gets injuries….does he take attitude and confidence into the equation? Better coaching? Fk Rosensmall
August 18th, 2011 at 9:48 am
209.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Why would they not double him? Its based on Reputation alone because our young guys have yet to prove themselves
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ROG,
Exactly! sign the man!
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you mean Fairy?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:49 am
RRS…sign him for what? He does nada to help us out for real
August 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
199.Plunketthead Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Ex
thanks for the help but I called him Clampett on purpose and went to SD meant supplement draft. I was too lazy to spell out SD so its my fault for making that confusion
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Should have caught the sarcasm. lol
August 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
TO drops passes like Sprint drops calls
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ROG,
are you attempting to stake a claim that a 6x Pro Bowl WR who has been in the league since 1996 and is currently second place in 3 categories (receptions, yards & TD’s) “can’t catch” ???
LOL!
Next
August 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
# guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Check out what they are saying about HueJax
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i dont buy it for a second, complete crap. The old unnamed source is simply the writters alter ego speaking what is truly in his own mind. Im sure the norvel & his dischargers, and the queefs both wanted cabe to stay knowing that they owned him before hu jack showed up.
Hu jack came in blew the doors off the afc west, and installed a very physical brand of football. Now he is free to even kick up the intensity 4-5 notches higher in without that fat loser running interference. As a result we have had the best training camp since the chucky era. Im sure the rest of our division is none to pleased about the rise of HU Jack City.
Hu jack didnt mesh with harbough? Who cares? He clearly has established positive relationships with good coaches throughout his career. He is in lock step with Al davis, all of his staff is pulling in the same direction, and so are the players. When was the last time you could say any of those things about this team? certainly couldnt say it when barney rubble’s twin cable was at the helm.
Suanders came here specifically because of Jc and Hu Jack! Woodson is here because of Hu Jack. he is trusted by ownership , his staff and his players, and well respected around the league.
I wouldnt expect national media to want a guy like hu jack and davis to come together of one mind, because they would rather see us flounder and flop, just as we did under cable.
Bully Ball…roll with us, or get rolled over.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I even have to question better coaching. Maybe its the trainers. I dunno.
We have an alarming rate of injuries coming in off the practice field. Moreso than other teams.
Where does the buck stop?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Is this “buidling a bully” or is it “next man up”?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:51 am
All the news about how awful the mules will be against the run worry me
August 18th, 2011 at 9:54 am
t pryor is eligable for the supp draft.. he might be able to throw a deep ball
August 18th, 2011 at 9:55 am
RRS 49er ruin your life and nothing but evil comes from it….take my radio call from 2001….was ROG correct? He sure was
August 18th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Agreed, Guest123. I think people are ignoring the obvious here. This team has some very worrisome problems.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:55 am
@ 216,
I want to agree, but the comments in Corkran’s blog above seem to paint Hue as misinforming status on injuries. Maybe he’s hoping against hope that guys will be alright. Dunno.
Seems less than straightforward, and kinda cruel to make the mantra, ‘next man up’.
what that does for morale?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I want no part of Terrell Owens. He’s not a mentor and never will be. He’s a me-first guy, that will only stunt the development of our young guys
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G123,
Tell that to Miles Austin, Steve Johnson & Jordan Shipley!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I think the injuries to murph and chaz the glass could be a blessing in disguise. Now Hu Jack doesnt need to justify to anyone giving DHb & Moore lots of reps. As it stands now DHB, , and Moore are the best 2 wrs remianing on the team. DHB has an edge over those other camp bodies simply by virtue of having been in this offense for a year. this means he will have even more of a chance to show what he can o on game day. This is a sink or swim year, and he is about to dive into the deep end.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Only 2 days until the ass kicking commences!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:57 am
RRS:
You really give credit to TO for Austin, Johnson, and Shipley?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Raiding Texas
123 = moron Raider and he is just goading you into hating the Raiders with him
August 18th, 2011 at 9:58 am
215.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
TO drops passes like Sprint drops calls
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ROG,
are you attempting to stake a claim that a 6x Pro Bowl WR who has been in the league since 1996 and is currently second place in 3 categories (receptions, yards & TD’s) “can’t catch” ???
LOL!
Next
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He is 38 not 28……just like Shaq at 38 he clearly wasnt same player as he was at 28…..TO has always dropped passes…..come on you cant be serious man
August 18th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Did I read that right? DHB is one of the 2 best wideouts on the team? Seriously????
August 18th, 2011 at 9:59 am
guest
there are currently 10 other teams with more injuries than us, 6 teams with about the same.. CAR, WAS, BUF, DEN, CLE, MIA, JAX, SEA, DET… all have more injuries than us man. like hue-jack says “its the lockout man!”
August 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
EX said
Should have caught the sarcasm. lol
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We can only hope that the mules will take TP in the SD in the hopes that their QB problems will be solved.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
From a business standpoint, I wouldn’t tell media any more than I had to about injuries. Huge Action is following the Davis coaching modet to a T. He was clearly the heir apparent last year.
Next man up isn’t cruel. It’s football. Guys get injured. Can’t be avoided.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Plunkethead, I am a lifelong Raiderfan, dunno your age, but probably since you were in diapers. Been with them thru thick and thin.
No Raider hate. I am worried about this team right now, and I keep my opinions real.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
224.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I want no part of Terrell Owens. He’s not a mentor and never will be. He’s a me-first guy, that will only stunt the development of our young guys
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G123,
Tell that to Miles Austin, Steve Johnson & Jordan Shipley!
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HAHAHAHA stop it guy….just stop now…..only thing TO showed them was exactly what kinda teammate to not be thru your career
August 18th, 2011 at 10:02 am
According to an article we don’t have a 2nd & 4th round pick. How did we lose those? Did we use them in a trade for someone? Details if you know them please. Thanks.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:02 am
in the 2012 draft
August 18th, 2011 at 10:03 am
RRS just look at TO’s drops the last 5 seasons…..my god and we gonna let this bum take time fromthe youngins? Never
August 18th, 2011 at 10:03 am
The biggest problem with TO is his bipolar/skitzo issues. I give him respect for what he has done. My ex was like that.
Dont get me wrong, I have never liked him but he has stayed in the spotlight which has to be super tough for those who suffer from BP issues.
He must follow docs orders and never take recreational drugs and he gets his meds adjusted over the years while in the spotlight and TO plays HARD.
Theres just the one problem. He is a ticking time bomb
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Plunk,
I don’t care about his alleged “mental state”
the guy is a football player. we need more of those in Oakland!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:03 am
# guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:55 am
@ 216,
I want to agree, but the comments in Corkran’s blog above seem to paint Hue as misinforming status on injuries. Maybe he’s hoping against hope that guys will be alright. Dunno.
Seems less than straightforward, and kinda cruel to make the mantra, ‘next man up’.
what that does for morale?
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sometimes you reach like a toothbrush,
Most coaches dont disclose details on injuries until they are mandated to do so by league rules. This is especially true with the raiders. This is a non story. The nfl is dog eat dog, next man up breeds competition, and gives the entire depth chart confidence to perform. How? because the coach is saying he believes anybody in this uniform can compete and get the job done. If not you wont be here.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I’m not just picking on Hue Jackson here. I bet a lot of head coaches are frustrtated with the lack of prep time to get ready for the regular season. They want to condense 3 months of work into one month. They think it can be done, but the physical toll is too much. Add that these guys aren’t as conditioned as they normally would be going into camp.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:05 am
49er ruin your life and nothing but evil comes from it….take my radio call from 2001
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ROG,
no 49er player or fan has EVER ruined my life – but apparently one has ruined yours.
I don’t care if we sign ex donks, chefs or dolts – as long as they contribute on the football field!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:06 am
J-Raider, thanks for the research.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:06 am
# guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Did I read that right? DHB is one of the 2 best wide outs on the team? Seriously????
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hagan, bodiford, miller. Which one of these guys is a better or more talented player than DHb? None of them are. Meaning Moore and DHb are the two best healthy wrs n the roster.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
just look at TO’s drops the last 5 seasons…..my god and we gonna let this bum take time fromthe youngins? Never
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ROG,
Gotta Link?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
all you have to do is look at T.O.s career stats and it instantly makes you wonder how he has done it.. the guy is just a good ball player, it cant be argued.. you dont become a hall-of-fame wideout in this league for no reason.
honestly i believe his me-first attitude is gone(past two seasons no problems) and he is still a fast, very very strong wideout in this league..
incentive laiden deal for 2 yrs and he instantly becomes the best recieving option weve had since tim brown..
August 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=paolantonio_sal&id=3328008
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Remember this one from good ole Sal? LOL this was three years ago
August 18th, 2011 at 10:08 am
245.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
just look at TO’s drops the last 5 seasons…..my god and we gonna let this bum take time fromthe youngins? Never
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ROG,
Gotta Link?
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LOL….you can go and google that my friend
August 18th, 2011 at 10:08 am
tj the bj says DHB is better than T Brown, C Branch, and TO.
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# guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Did I read that right? DHB is one of the 2 best wideouts on the team? Seriously????
August 18th, 2011 at 10:09 am
The thing I like most about Hue was my biggest knock on Cable.
Paraphrashing, Hue says the main function of a coach is to play to the strengths of a player and use him in the most productive way possible and avoid weaknesses, if possible, and to work on those weaknesses during the week.
We’re in better shape than this time last year. better coaching, great 2010 draft class one year older and fresh off an 8-8 season and what appears to be a promising 2011 class.
We lost Miller, yes. Got Boss.
We lost Nnamdi, yes. Change the scheme (I know, I’m not holding my breath either).
August 18th, 2011 at 10:09 am
T.O is a headache we really dont need. especially now that we have our own young play makers in ford and moore. at this stage of the game, after coming off a terrible knee injury at nearly 40 years old, what he brings to the table on the football field isnt worth the problems he creates in the locker room.
No thanks
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I want to “build a bully” just like all of you do. But if it means going to hard or physical that we lose key guys on top of key guys, who are going to have on the field to bully with?
I trust that Hue knows what he’s doing, and injuries are going to happen, but this cavalier ‘next man up’ policy is alarming.
I hope Hue doesn’t have to say ‘next man up’ for awhile.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I think the injuries to murph and chaz the glass could be a blessing in disguise. Now Hu Jack doesnt need to justify to anyone giving DHb & Moore lots of reps. As it stands now DHB, , and Moore are the best 2 wrs remianing on the team. DHB has an edge over those other camp bodies simply by virtue of having been in this offense for a year. this means he will have even more of a chance to show what he can o on game day. This is a sink or swim year, and he is about to dive into the deep end.
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Mistic, I’m inclined to agree with you at the core of what you’re saying, but you may be taking it a bit far.
I’m anxious to get Shilens and Ford back, especially; however, I’m somewhat exited to see Moore/DHB as starters in a preseason game. Should be interesting indeed.
If Ford is back in the mix for the opener, DHB/Ford/Moore is a pretty fing dangerous combination…
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Players-think-Terrell-Owens-is-the-most-overrate?urn=nfl-278583
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HAHAHAHA more links for ya
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
you can go and google that my friend
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Just as I thought. ROG blowing smoke again!
You can’t prove a point by telling somebody else to go look it up. LOL!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
no problem guest..
August 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
all you have to do is look at T.O.s career stats and it instantly makes you wonder how he has done it.. the guy is just a good ball player, it cant be argued.. you dont become a hall-of-fame wideout in this league for no reason.
honestly i believe his me-first attitude is gone(past two seasons no problems) and he is still a fast, very very strong wideout in this league..
incentive laiden deal for 2 yrs and he instantly becomes the best recieving option weve had since tim brown..
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J-Raider for semi-pro status please!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
• If I’ve heard a common theme about the AFC West this season during the course of my camp travels it’s this: No one outside of Oakland is unhappy to have ex-Raiders head coach Tom Cable out of the division. The Raiders played hard for Cable last season, going 6-0 in the division and finishing with Oakland’s first non-losing record since its 2002 Super Bowl season.
“The Raiders were a tough team last year,” one AFC West source said. “You got beat up coming out of that game. Cable had those guys playing hard for him, and nobody’s sorry to see him go. Why Al Davis got rid of him after that team made so much progress, nobody understands.”
As for new Raiders head coach Hue Jackson, the team’s former offensive coordinator, let’s just say there’s very divided opinion around the league when it comes to him. Some view him as a strong motivator, and others consider him something of a manipulator and self-promoter. I know this to be true: When Jackson left his gig as Ravens quarterbacks coach after the 2009 season, joining Oakland as its offensive coordinator, Baltimore and head coach John Harbaugh didn’t mind seeing him go in the least.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/08/17/snaps.judgments/index.html#ixzz1VOx3cNmn
August 18th, 2011 at 10:12 am
255.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
you can go and google that my friend
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Just as I thought. ROG blowing smoke again!
You can’t prove a point by telling somebody else to go look it up. LOL!
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LOL do you want me to go there RRS? Blowing smoke? Please tell me when and I can shred it to pieces
August 18th, 2011 at 10:13 am
The teams T.O. played for and supposedly “wrecked” weren’t able to do much without him, either. Niners, Eagles, etc. Eagles still haven’t won a SB. T.O. > scapegoat. Anyone?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:14 am
what he brings to the table on the football field isnt worth the problems he creates in the locker room.
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Mistic,
Are you suggesting that Hue Jackson can’t handle the locker room?
Besides – You guys really think Richard Seymour will let this guy become a distraction?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:14 am
According to an article we don’t have a 2nd & 4th round pick. How did we lose those? Did we use them in a trade for someone? Details if you know them please. Thanks.
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2012 2nd Round Pick-We got NE’s 3rd and 4th Rounder last draft.
2012 Raider 4th-Jason Campbell from Skins.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:15 am
raiders really do need a vet reciever for emergency injury situations(kind of like now)
ive said his name a few times in here but he is probably one of the best vet recievers that we could get for cheap, and he would probably come in as our third or fourth best wideout.. Jason Avant!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Apparently, T.O. was a model prisoner in Cincy last year. Chad was the pain in the @$$ and T.O. kept playing hard, whereas Robin didn’t.
I don’t know that we need him though. Last year, I would have said absolutely, 2 years ago, I’d be paying for his plane ticket myself. 2011? For a cheap deal, a move-the-chains possesion WR with tons of experience, including playing on one leg in the Super Bowl?
I think T.O. is a locker room cancer but he’s cleaned up his act a bit. At his age and with injuries, he kind of has to.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:16 am
All he’s done so far in 2010 is put himself on pace to post career highs in receptions and yards, yet you never hear about his play, just his antics.
And for that, he’s overrated? Hmm … maybe Donovan McNabb(notes) went Chicago-style on this ballot and voted more than once.
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This (above) is from the link you provided, ROG.
thanks for proving me right
August 18th, 2011 at 10:16 am
The vet receiver we need is already here. Derek Hagan. Give him a chance. He can produce.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:17 am
HAHAHAHA come on Mods you wont let me post the links now?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Plunketthead, please. I read the articles and injury news before I came here today and saw Guest123’s comments. I’m not “goaded” into anything by him. I love the team and want it to win, but I’m not going to view this through rose-colored glasses. The injuries are very worrisome.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:17 am
265.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:16 am
All he’s done so far in 2010 is put himself on pace to post career highs in receptions and yards, yet you never hear about his play, just his antics.
And for that, he’s overrated? Hmm … maybe Donovan McNabb(notes) went Chicago-style on this ballot and voted more than once.
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This (above) is from the link you provided, ROG.
thanks for proving me right
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How did it prove you’re right when article said he hurts team more than he helps them? HAHA you been aced again
Back to the drawing board pal
August 18th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Anyone else worried about DVD ramping up his man-to-man skills against Denver? I was a lot more confident of CJ37, but you can bet DVD will be targeted early and often.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:19 am
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16 teams in the nfl have just as much or more injuries than the raiders! thats half of the nfl man.. its going to be ok, calm down..
August 18th, 2011 at 10:20 am
RRS guess who was among leaders in drops last season? lol
August 18th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Baltimore and head coach John Harbaugh didn’t mind seeing him go in the least
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Harbaugh’s a d;ck and we all know this. Saunders followed Hue out here. Didn’t Boller play in that system as well? Didn’t TJ Whozyomomma say last year he went to Baltimore because his trusted mentor said great things about Joe Flacco (who also improved while Hue was there?).
Don’t trip, Hue Jack City® got this, fellas.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:20 am
# J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
honestly i believe his me-first attitude is gone(past two seasons no problems)
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Not so fast. peep this
Teammate Chad Ochocinco asked Owens during “The T.Ocho Show” on Versus cable network Tuesday night why he thinks the team is 2-11.
“I think there’s underachieving from the top down,” Owens said. “You start with the owner, you start with the coaches. And obviously we as players, we are a product of what the coaches are coaching us throughout the course of the week.
“Of course, we have to go out there and play the game. But in order for us to do what we’re allowed to do at the best of our abilities, the coaches have to put the players in the best position.” – T.O
This cat is a locker room killer, just imagine if the team has a rough start or he doesnt get the ball or see the field as much as he thinks he should. It would be a dumpster fire! It may have been true, but you just dont throw your team under the bus like that. Not to mention the fact that he did it on his reality show!!!
Again no thanks
August 18th, 2011 at 10:20 am
http://stats.nj.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2010&range=NFL&rank=232&type=Receiving
August 18th, 2011 at 10:21 am
http://stats.masslive.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=2009
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This is 2009
August 18th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Thank you RaidingTexas.
You prove that you are a true fan and keep it real. Why should anyone feel peer pressure to question the good and the bad of what’s going on with this team.
Sometimes I think that Jerry for his part was better than Steve at this type of questioning.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:22 am
hagan is a good option but honestly hes not our 3rd or 4th best wideout.. im just waiting for the link to pop up “raiders sign vet cb and wr to compete for starting job”
August 18th, 2011 at 10:22 am
RRS…I dont think you want me to go from 2006-2008 now do ya lol
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
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wasnt he talking about the bungles??????
he was speaking the truth!!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
# guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I want to “build a bully” just like all of you do. But if it means going to hard or physical that we lose key guys on top of key guys, who are going to have on the field to bully with?
I trust that Hue knows what he’s doing, and injuries are going to happen, but this cavalier ‘next man up’ policy is alarming.
I hope Hue doesn’t have to say ‘next man up’ for awhile.
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It beats the hell out of playing freeze tag at cables camp the last two years. No wonder our guys were so soft
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Apparently, T.O. was a model prisoner in Cincy last year. Chad was the pain in the @$$ and T.O. kept playing hard, whereas Robin didn’t.
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Don’t tell that to ROG. he wanted Ocho!
what did New England get him for again?
a 4th or 5th next year? LOL
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
The Press Hatin’ on the Raiders again,… nothing new. It’s going to take 3 winning season in a row to get them to stop. They’ll never believe unless we run it down their throats.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:24 am
RRS you too scared to look it up yourself cuz you know I got you aced on this lol
August 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
282.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Apparently, T.O. was a model prisoner in Cincy last year. Chad was the pain in the @$$ and T.O. kept playing hard, whereas Robin didn’t.
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Don’t tell that to ROG. he wanted Ocho!
what did New England get him for again?
a 4th or 5th next year? LOL
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Hell yeah Chad not hated by his peers and is a good teammate and is younger than TO and not coming off of ACL surgery….no schit RRS lol
August 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Raiderbuck Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
The Press Hatin’ on the Raiders again,… nothing new. It’s going to take 3 winning season in a row to get them to stop. They’ll never believe unless we run it down their throats.
Vegas has us losing against Denver week 1
August 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
RRS you want me to post 2008’s 17 drops for Terrel Slowens?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
ocho is more of a diva than t.o.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Raiders turning into the SF Giants with all these freakin injuries. Ugh
Oh and it seems the Niners QB’s and WR were working on slant patterns the past two days, so the Raiders CB’s better be ready to defend slants!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Oh, I see why you don’t want T.O., Mistic. He’s not afraid to publicly blame ownership and management when things go bad.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Excuse I meant 2006 when he dropped the most in NFL and 2007 was just as bad
August 18th, 2011 at 10:27 am
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he also got over 1000yds and 10 tds that year.. ill take that PLUS 17 drops from any of our recievers!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:28 am
288.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
ocho is more of a diva than t.o.
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That’s bullschit to the highest degree….Chad at least has a superstar personality while TO is trying to hard to be a star…chad naturally is entertaining and it kills TO’s wanna be model runway ass that he isnt
August 18th, 2011 at 10:28 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:14 am
what he brings to the table on the football field isnt worth the problems he creates in the locker room.
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Mistic,
Are you suggesting that Hue Jackson can’t handle the locker room?
Besides – You guys really think Richard Seymour will let this guy become a distraction?
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Im suggesting Hu jack doesnt need the distraction, and i would rather have big rich policing the young players and not having to spend time baby sitting a 40 year old head case, with a glued together knee.
So far our team has lifted the level of professionalism to hieghts that we simply havent seen in years.
Why let T.O come in and wreck it all? It isnt like having him would make us instant as if superbowl contenders.
The risk outweighs the reward by a mile.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Ocho is better than any receiver on the Raiders. Hands down. A healthy T.O. is, too.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Ok, the injuries are worrying me a bit becuase we have a lot of unproven commodities (if you can call it that) out there. Bu the “Next Man Up” is actually pretty good motivation. Like someone posted earlier, everyone has to or at least wants to prove to be the best! You get your chance, you have to ean it! That could be good or bad, because of the unproveness out there.
As for TO…I will have to go No on that one because we already had a guy very similar to that in Randy Moss! The one thing I will give TO is (and correct me if I am wrong) is that at least he hasn’t given up on plays, unlike Moss!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:30 am
ROG,
Wes Welker, Reggie Wayne & Brandon Marshall dropped more passes than Owens last year?
You wouldn’t want any of these guys on your team?
and how many times was he targeted ???
August 18th, 2011 at 10:31 am
BeAlwaysOneOfTheGals,
Girlfriend, heard any details about homegirl down in L.A. and what athletes are hitting on her? Call me, girl.
Anyhow, regarding receivers dropping balls. Kevin Boss had the highest dropped ball percentage of all TEs last year.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:31 am
# J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
274
wasnt he talking about the bungles??????
he was speaking the truth!!!!!!
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Doesnt matter if it is true, it should stay in house. Go into your coaches office and air it out. having t.o in the locker room is like having the basket ball wives in the locker room.
This dude is just too messy
August 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
DKnight007 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Raiders turning into the SF Giants with all these freakin injuries. Ugh
Oh and it seems the Niners QB’s and WR were working on slant patterns the past two days, so the Raiders CB’s better be ready to defend slants!
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3 or 4 WR set, crossing patterns all day, victimizing man coverage on the outside and LBs up the middle. Got so ridiculously sick of seeing that for however many years. Rolando McClain has remedied that a bit and I expect him to be only better this year.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
ROG,
Dwayne Bowe, Vernon Davis, Santonio Holmes & Dallas Clark dropped more passes than Owens in 2009?
You wouldn’t want any of these guys on your team?
and how many times was he targeted ???
August 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
t.o. is NOTHING like randy moss..
randy would never ever try to break a tackle HAHAHA!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Raiders need to add a vet WR and they should look at T.O. might as well now.
They also need to add a vet CB!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Mistic, how is Richard Seymour going to get focus and dedication out of the younger players? What will he do, specifically?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:33 am
297.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:30 am
ROG,
Wes Welker, Reggie Wayne & Brandon Marshall dropped more passes than Owens last year?
You wouldn’t want any of these guys on your team?
and how many times was he targeted ???
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Hmmmm let’s see Wes Welker and Wayne are good teammates who dont throw other under the bus….and arent in their fking late 30s off an acl injjury in APRIL….ummm Yes I would thank you
August 18th, 2011 at 10:34 am
TO has been among the league leaders in drops plus he is declining lol…..thanks for playing RRS……maybe next time
August 18th, 2011 at 10:35 am
WR corp is banged up badly now. Murphy hurt until who knows when, Chaz hurt and unreliable, Ford out until the opener or the 2nd game at least.
That leaves us with DHB, Moore, Hagan and Miller??
Problems.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:35 am
303.DKnight007 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Raiders need to add a vet WR and they should look at T.O. might as well now.
They also need to add a vet CB!
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LOL DK you most definiitely living in the dark cuz you are blind….TO brings nada but hell to us and is a 49er btch….dont need and dont want him….he wont make it as it is cuz my bat will hunt his knee down…TRUST ME
August 18th, 2011 at 10:35 am
t.o. puts up tds, what else can you say? if we brought him in and he scored 14 tds would you be complaining?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:36 am
298.Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:31 am
BeAlwaysOneOfTheGals,
Girlfriend, heard any details about homegirl down in L.A. and what athletes are hitting on her? Call me, girl.
Anyhow, regarding receivers dropping balls. Kevin Boss had the highest dropped ball percentage of all TEs last year.
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We talking TO now….keep uo lil dummy
Babygirl doesnt live in LA you jcat….I told you that yesterday lol……wow you are sad
August 18th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Anybody hear anything on Darren Sharper?
IF we signed Sharper, Huff to CB?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Oh, I see why you don’t want T.O., Mistic. He’s not afraid to publicly blame ownership and management when things go bad.
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i would rather have the guy that looks in the miror and takes personal responsibility, than pointing finger and blaming others publicly. he called his teammates under achievers, that is ok with you?
You cant lead that way. Richard seymour couldnt have been happy losing under that moron cable. Did he blast the raiders owner, or coach or team mates? No he took it upon himself to lead and the results are showing.
T.O, yuck…who needs him
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
DHB and Chaz are unreliable, Moore is good, but still a rookie, Hagan is decent and Miller is below average.
WR corp needs to sign a vet WR.
It’s time to look at signing T.O. now!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
all three years he led the leauge in drops he was also top 5 in three catagories- tds, yds, yac.. thats how you make up for drops, YOU SCORE TDS!!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
309.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:35 am
t.o. puts up tds, what else can you say? if we brought him in and he scored 14 tds would you be complaining?
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14 TDs will never happen….one td wont happen…..louisville slugger to the knee…Hate all 49ers…must die
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
314.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
all three years he led the leauge in drops he was also top 5 in three catagories- tds, yds, yac.. thats how you make up for drops, YOU SCORE TDS!!!!!!
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Yeah u make up for it by being an awful teammate and bad in the lockerroom lol….I seen all three of TO’s last team improve as soon as he left lol….wonder why?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
t.o. puts up tds, what else can you say? if we brought him in and he scored 14 tds would you be complaining?
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J,
Yes. ROG hates Owens because he onced played for the 49ers. the Raiders could trade a 5th round pick for Patrick Willis next year and he would complain about us wasting a pick and how our run defense will suffer as a result, just because the guy got drafted by SF
ridiculous, isn’t it?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
And notice he never takes accountability….its never his fault….thats not a man….thats a btch
August 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am
317.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
t.o. puts up tds, what else can you say? if we brought him in and he scored 14 tds would you be complaining?
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J,
Yes. ROG hates Owens because he onced played for the 49ers. the Raiders could trade a 5th round pick for Patrick Willis next year and he would complain about us wasting a pick and how our run defense will suffer as a result, just because the guy got drafted by SF
ridiculous, isn’t it?
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June 3rd 2001….predicted the evil and what happened with 49er ingrates? Next lol
August 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am
No, you’re talking dropped balls. And Kevin Boss has the highest dropped balls percentage of all TEs last year. How can you criticize T.O. for dropping balls when a TE we just brought in drops balls, too?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
308.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:35 am
303.DKnight007 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Raiders need to add a vet WR and they should look at T.O. might as well now.
They also need to add a vet CB!
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LOL DK you most definiitely living in the dark cuz you are blind….TO brings nada but hell to us and is a 49er btch….dont need and dont want him….he wont make it as it is cuz my bat will hunt his knee down…TRUST ME
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Trust me, I’m not a T.O. fan by any means the WR corp has question marks all over the place right now with the injuries to Murphy, Chaz and Ford.
If T.O.’s knee checks out, they need to consider him or anyother vet. Maybe T.J. Housh?
Did he sign with the Pats?
Looks like Hagan is making the squad now, with all the injuries to the WR corp.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
And notice he never takes accountability….its never his fault….thats not a man….thats a btch
……….
Kind of like Al.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
brb
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
t.o. has the most broken tackles out of any wideout in nfl history.. the guy refuses to go down until hes in the endzone. hes a hall-of-fame widout and you say he sucks? the guy plays with heart and he believes in his own ability, unlike any of our wideouts other than moore and ford….
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
322.Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
And notice he never takes accountability….its never his fault….thats not a man….thats a btch
……….
Kind of like Al.
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That’s a lie cuz in kiffin presser he said he is at fault…he said that many times you liar
August 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
LOL DK you most definiitely living in the dark cuz you are blind….TO brings nada but hell to us and is a 49er btch….dont need and dont want him….he wont make it as it is cuz my bat will hunt his knee down…TRUST ME
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Trust me, I’m not a T.O. fan by any means the WR corp has question marks all over the place right now with the injuries to Murphy, Chaz and Ford.
If T.O.’s knee checks out, they need to consider him or anyother vet. Maybe T.J. Housh?
Did he sign with the Pats?
Looks like Hagan is making the squad now, with all the injuries to the WR corp.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
i would rather have the guy that looks in the miror and takes personal responsibility, than pointing finger and blaming others publicly.
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I’d like that guy as owner!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
324.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:40 am
t.o. has the most broken tackles out of any wideout in nfl history.. the guy refuses to go down until hes in the endzone. hes a hall-of-fame widout and you say he sucks? the guy plays with heart and he believes in his own ability, unlike any of our wideouts other than moore and ford….
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Its for him only….not for the team young dude
August 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
ROG,
it looks like the Owens to Oakland chants are getting louder. you better step off the tracks because the train is coming thru!
Campbell hits Owens, he breaks a tackle, he’s at the 40, 30, 20, 10 … TOUCHDOWWWWWWWNNNNN RAAAAAAAIIIIIDDDDDEEERRRRRSSSSSS !!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Sullivan44 Says:
No, you’re talking dropped balls. And Kevin Boss has the highest dropped balls percentage of all TEs last year. How can you criticize T.O. for dropping balls when a TE we just brought in drops balls, too?
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Maybe because that’s one situation where having two is not better than having one? lmao
August 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
anyhow be back later
August 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
329.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
ROG,
it looks like the Owens to Oakland chants are getting louder. you better step off the tracks because the train is coming thru!
Campbell hits Owens, he breaks a tackle, he’s at the 40, 30, 20, 10 … TOUCHDOWWWWWWWNNNNN RAAAAAAAIIIIIDDDDDEEERRRRRSSSSSS !!!
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Louisville slugger to the knee bbl
August 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
WRs:
Locks> Ford, Heyward-Bey, Moore
now high probable locks = Hagan, (as for Murphy & Schilens, Raiders cannot afford to have two recievers holding down roster spots and not be able to play for a length of time);
August 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
DVD hit the buffett and weight room! Arian Foster Adrian Peterson and Peyton Hillis are coming
August 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Mistic, how is Richard Seymour going to get focus and dedication out of the younger players? What will he do, specifically?
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1.) flash the jewlery, he has the three finger sb ring like big daddy kane. when he says aint no half steppin’ the team follows.
2.) he sets the tone for practice. leading by example and offering instruction.
3.) made himself one of the guys ridding in on the rookie bus, and paying for camp this year. he is invested in getting better as a player and a team. Coming from a guy that has already achieved individual accolades as well as the ultimate prize, means something to young guys still trying to carve a nitch.
3.) he is fully endorsed by davis and hujack and the rest of the staff.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I like Jacksons “next man up” slogan and mantra.
However, that only goes so far though. Most 2nd and 3rd teamers just don’t have the talent or skills to get the job done consistently and that is why they are not consistent starters!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:45 am
as for T.O. he will not be able to play until mid-October at the earliest anyway due to his injury.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
314.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
all three years he led the leauge in drops he was also top 5 in three catagories- tds, yds, yac.. thats how you make up for drops, YOU SCORE TDS!!!!!!
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Yeah u make up for it by being an awful teammate and bad in the lockerroom lol….I seen all three of TO’s last team improve as soon as he left lol….wonder why?
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his last year in sf was the last year they went to the playoffs..
his last year in philly was the last year they went to the superbowl..
the year after t.o. left the cowboys, the cowboys missed the playoffs..
buf just sucks..
bengals need a head coach more than any other team in the nfl…
t.o. is a good football player, just admit it..
why else would he be headed to the HOF????????????????????????????????
August 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Oh man, if we’re rolling out DHB, Ford and Moore as the starting receivers, let’s hope Moore is what we want to believe he is.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Al’s taken accountability? Laughable.
ac·count·a·ble
[uh-koun-tuh-buhl]
adjective
1. subject to the obligation to report, explain, or justify something; responsible; answerable.
2. capable of being explained; explicable; explainable.
When did Al ever “explain”, in detail, his poor decisions? When did he ever justify them, convincingly, for that matter? He just said “I made mistakes”. Never truly repented for any in particular.
“Responsible”. The ability to “respond”. How has Al responded to his bad decisions? Letting his two best players go? Bashing his former HC publicly?
Al’s lame attempts at taking accountability for his failures were posturing, at best. He’s taken no accountability.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:48 am
DVD, McFadden, Chekwa,and Ware will get the reps Saturday and show what they have got; there is no Larry Fitzgerald on 49er’s roster, even their QBs are not as good as Kolb, so our 2nd & 3rd string CBs & safeties should dominate.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
333.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
WRs:
Locks> Ford, Heyward-Bey, Moore
now high probable locks = Hagan, (as for Murphy & Schilens, Raiders cannot afford to have two recievers holding down roster spots and not be able to play for a length of time);
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Hagan is going to make the team now that Murphy and Ford are hurt and Chaz is dinged up again.
I’m glad Hagan is going to make the team. He can play.
Raiders should sign T.O. if his knee checks out and cut Chaz if his knee does not check out!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
And notice he never takes accountability….its never his fault….thats not a man….thats a btch
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Kind of like Al.
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Exactly like Al.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Plunkett was a 49er. So was Lott, Romonowski, Hearst…
I guess since I don’t live in the bay and never have, I don’t understand the hate towards the 49ers. I don’t like them just as much as just about any other team in the NFC. It’s the other AFC teams I can’t stand.
That said, I don’t like T.O. and I don’t think he has anything left. To me, I think the Raiders WR is a strength. These young guys are going to push each other. Moore and Ford will up the bar and keep challenging each other to be better.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
we NEED a good cb.. dvd isnt ready!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Mistic, still waiting for you to point to one thing Seymour would do, in particular, to instill focus and dedication in the younger players.
Flashing Super Bowl rings? We’ve never had SB winners before? How well did it go when Gibril Wilson flashed his SB bling?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
as for T.O. he will not be able to play until mid-October at the earliest anyway due to his injury
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Retro,
He’s good to go by Week 3 – Print That
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
i would rather have the guy that looks in the miror and takes personal responsibility, than pointing finger and blaming others publicly.
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I’d like that guy as owner!
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If you were a raider fan you would have that guy already, his name is Al Davis.
Every time he fires a coach dumps a player that he drafted or signed as a free agent he is admitting a mistake, and trying to fix it. that is the definition of accountability.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
sign avant!! sign haydon!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
337.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:45 am
as for T.O. he will not be able to play until mid-October at the earliest anyway due to his injury.
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What about T.J. Housh Hooker than?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:52 am
349.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
sign avant!! sign haydon!!
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Those would be good signings. Especially Hayden!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:53 am
We need to hope Mr. Jason Campbell has finally taken that next step into being a playoff caliber quarterback.
I still like our OLine situation even if Mr. Satele has a significant injury.
We will now be able to see how Mr. Wisniewski holds up against #1 team DLines Sat.
great to read Mr. Bruce Campbell had a good practice, he can just wrap up his hand like the best guard in football, Mr. Gene Upshaw did and use it like a Deacon Jones right cross.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:53 am
320.Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am
No, you’re talking dropped balls. And Kevin Boss has the highest dropped balls percentage of all TEs last year. How can you criticize T.O. for dropping balls when a TE we just brought in drops balls, too?
Brandon Pettigrew of Detroit (12) dropped more passes – although I agree Boss didn’t do well
August 18th, 2011 at 10:54 am
I don’t like T.O. and I don’t think he has anything left. To me, I think the Raiders WR is a strength.
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Ryan,
really bro? LOL
the Raiders WR Corps was a joke last year. adding a 5th rounder doesn’t fix everything
especially when you lose Pro Bowl TE Zach Miller!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Mistic, still waiting for you to point to one thing Seymour would do, in particular, to instill focus and dedication in the younger players.
Flashing Super Bowl rings? We’ve never had SB winners before? How well did it go when Gibril Wilson flashed his SB bling?
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Sadkowski,
Why the detour? I used big rich as an example of a guy that helps the locker room as opposed to owens who destroys a locker room. lets not get side tracked , buy a book on leadership if you dont know what it is. according to the coaches the owner the media reports and the players say big rich is leading.
big rich> owens
August 18th, 2011 at 11:00 am
i say raiders lose 26-18 against faggerwhiners..
prolly gonna see nothin but backups for the raiders.. maybe one possesion for our first team on both sides.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:01 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:54 am
I don’t like T.O. and I don’t think he has anything left. To me, I think the Raiders WR is a strength.
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Ryan,
really bro? LOL
the Raiders WR Corps was a joke last year. adding a 5th rounder doesn’t fix everything
especially when you lose Pro Bowl TE Zach Miller!
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i with ryan.
Moore has huge talent, no matter what round we found him in.
Boss is an upgrade to miller, he does everything miller could do, and more. He is a better blocker, and batter red zone target because of his size. he scores more tds’ even though he saw the ball less.
Ford is a game breaker.
These three alone have significantly improved our passing game and it will be a strength.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:02 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:53 am
We need to hope Mr. Jason Campbell has finally taken that next step into being a playoff caliber quarterback.
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No need to hope, JC has always been a playoff caliber qb, he hasnt played on a play off caliber team since gibbs left dc.
he does now
August 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
341.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:48 am
DVD, McFadden, Chekwa,and Ware will get the reps Saturday and show what they have got; there is no Larry Fitzgerald on 49er’s roster, even their QBs are not as good as Kolb, so our 2nd & 3rd string CBs & safeties should dominate.
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Don’t know about dominating anybody. However, Chuck B is going to have to bring the blitzes when the 2nd and 3rd teamers are in to help those young DB’s.
In the last game he only blitzed twice in the 2nd half??
August 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Concern About Darren McFadden Should Not Be Related to the Loss of Robert Gallery
It’s a common refrain to hear that Darren McFadden is going to see some falloff because Robert Gallery has left and is now with the Seahawks. As always, when I hear conventional wisdom, I like to see if it can be verified.
Play by play data reports the run direction for every running play. It’s possible to break out runs by direction and view average run distances by direction. The below graph summarizes average run distance by direction for the Raiders. For ease of reference I’ve drawn in a dotted line over left guard, Gallery’s position.
Raiders Average Run Distance by Direction
LE LT LG MD RG RT RE
5.86 4.93 2.10 4.49 5.63 5.32 7.52
As you can see, the Raiders were the worst on runs behind left guard (close to 2 YPC!!). In fact, left guard, and then one slot on either side of left guard were the only places the Raiders didn’t average at least 5 YPC.
Now it’s possible that whoever plays left guard for the Raiders could be worse than Gallery. It’s also possible that Tom Cable was really coaching up the rest of the line and his departure will be damaging to McFadden. We won’t know until the season starts.
But the notion that we should strip McFadden of his yards from last year and hand them to all world left guard Robert Gallery is misconceived.
http://fantasydouche.com/2011/08/concern-about-darren-mcfadden-should-not-be-related-to-the-loss-of-robert-gallery/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=concern-about-darren-mcfadden-should-not-be-related-to-the-loss-of-robert-gallery
August 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Sounds like the best looking player in camp is J Campbell.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Mistic, when Al Davis admits he made a mistake not giving Gruden a new contract after the 2000 season, I’ll believe he takes accountability and blames himself. It’s easy to take accountability for the little things. Al does that well. But has done nothing to take accountability for the big things he’s done wrong. He won’t even mention them specifically. Wants to just wash them away like it never happened. That’s NOT accountability. That’s actually sociopathic.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am
I think that this is a test to our young players…eventually the starters will get back (well, maybe not Chaz) and I would love to see what we have back there in The Next Man Up stage! Better to know now (although last week secondary back ups still have me worried) then when it really matters!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:09 am
KoolKell Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
• If I’ve heard a common theme about the AFC West this season during the course of my camp travels it’s this: No one outside of Oakland is unhappy to have ex-Raiders head coach Tom Cable out of the division. The Raiders played hard for Cable last season, going 6-0 in the division and finishing with Oakland’s first non-losing record since its 2002 Super Bowl season.
“The Raiders were a tough team last year,” one AFC West source said. “You got beat up coming out of that game. Cable had those guys playing hard for him, and nobody’s sorry to see him go. Why Al Davis got rid of him after that team made so much progress, nobody understands.”
As for new Raiders head coach Hue Jackson, the team’s former offensive coordinator, let’s just say there’s very divided opinion around the league when it comes to him. Some view him as a strong motivator, and others consider him something of a manipulator and self-promoter. I know this to be true: When Jackson left his gig as Ravens quarterbacks coach after the 2009 season, joining Oakland as its offensive coordinator, Baltimore and head coach John Harbaugh didn’t mind seeing him go in the least.
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KK, I think there’s an assumption here that is yet to be validated. Specifically that the players played harder “for” Tom Cable. Who says it wasn’t in fact HuJack’s involvement that caused this change of character rather than that of Tom Cable? Maybe TC was just along for the ride. I believe a case can be made that it was actually HuJack’s attitude, knowledge & interaction that motivated the improved performance. Tom Cable was just getting the credit by some observers because he was the HC. Actually, I don’t really see where TC had that much of a positive influence. My vote would go for HuJack to get the credit.
As far as Harbaugh’s attitude on HuJack’s leaving goes one need only look at the Raven’s performance before & after HuJack left to see if his presence made a difference. I guess that assessment can be made at the end of this upcoming season. Additionally, Harbaugh might have seen HuJack as his replacement in the event the Ravens flounder. He might not have liked the internal comparison that could have been made by the Raven ownership. Who knows? Just the other side of the coin view.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Can’t understand the love for T.O. The guy is (or was) a DB killa, but he’s also a QB killa, as in his own QB.
I’m optomistic about J Campbell improving, but he isn’t as good as Romo was in Dallas when TO ripped him, let alone as good as McNabb was in Philly when TO ripped him.
What makes all of you so sure that TO has mended his ways and won’t go after Campbell if he doesn’t get enough touches? His knee is trashed, but I’m pretty sure his mouth still works. No more Sapp style malcontents, please.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:10 am
KoolKell Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Sounds like the best looking player in camp is J Campbell.
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Good grief. What does that tell you about the overall talent on this team?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Davy, show me those rings Garcia and McNabb got without T.O.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I don’t see why everyone is so concerened with the DB’s. DVD didn’t look so good in the second half and the reason for that was there was no pass rush, he was covering the WR’s for 6, 7 seconds, how many DB’s can do this? I really want to see him play with the first team with the first team pass rush and we will see how he good he is.
In the end the Raiders will live and die on their pass rush.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am
It’s all about the trenches. As long as the Raiders big guys are better then the other teams big guys, the little fast guys will do just fine on both sides of the ball. You can say that about every great team. Their big guys were better then the other teams big guys.
You can have the most talented little fast guys out there (Vick, Barry Sanders), but it is the big guys that get them the championships. (Emmitt Smith)
Imagine what Barry Sanders would have done behind the Cowboys’ OLine
August 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Mistic, when Al Davis admits he made a mistake not giving Gruden a new contract after the 2000 season, I’ll believe he takes accountability and blames himself. It’s easy to take accountability for the little things. Al does that well. But has done nothing to take accountability for the big things he’s done wrong. He won’t even mention them specifically. Wants to just wash them away like it never happened. That’s NOT accountability. That’s actually sociopathic.
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Speaking of washing things away like they never happened, you conveniently ignore Jon Gruden’s public flirtation with the Notre Dame job at that time.
That’s why your anti-Davis rants lack credibility. You cherry pick your info and ignore any fact that might undermine your argument.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am
365.Davy Jones Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Can’t understand the love for T.O. The guy is (or was) a DB killa, but he’s also a QB killa, as in his own QB.
I’m optomistic about J Campbell improving, but he isn’t as good as Romo was in Dallas when TO ripped him, let alone as good as McNabb was in Philly when TO ripped him.
What makes all of you so sure that TO has mended his ways and won’t go after Campbell if he doesn’t get enough touches? His knee is trashed, but I’m pretty sure his mouth still works. No more Sapp style malcontents, please.
^^^^^^^^
You trust DHB, Chaz and Moore to get it done on a consistent basis with the loss of Miller at TE as well who was the Raiders leading pass catcher?
Raiders need help at the WR corp…period!
I hope Moore, DHB and Hagan can step it up. I don’t have confidence in DHB or Chaz, they are unreliable!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:15 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Mistic, when Al Davis admits he made a mistake not giving Gruden a new contract after the 2000 season, I’ll believe he takes accountability and blames himself. It’s easy to take accountability for the little things. Al does that well. But has done nothing to take accountability for the big things he’s done wrong. He won’t even mention them specifically. Wants to just wash them away like it never happened. That’s NOT accountability. That’s actually sociopathic.
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Yawn,
Are you asleep at the wheel? when have you ever heard sports owners apologize to fans for the decisions that they have made?
Davis doesnt owe you anything
August 18th, 2011 at 11:16 am
show me those rings Garcia and McNabb got without T.O.
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Romo & Palmer, too!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Besides TO, and say, Whosyourmama…who else is out there?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Davy Jones Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Speaking of washing things away like they never happened, you conveniently ignore Jon Gruden’s public flirtation with the Notre Dame job at that time.
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point set match
August 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:14 am
According to an article we don’t have a 2nd & 4th round pick. How did we lose those? Did we use them in a trade for someone? Details if you know them please. Thanks.
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2012 2nd Round Pick-We got NE’s 3rd and 4th Rounder last draft.
2012 Raider 4th-Jason Campbell from Skins.
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Thanks DR
August 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
I ignored Gruden’s “public flirtation” with Notre Dame because it never happened. That was another excuse Al used, and it was unfounded. Gruden never said he intended to leave the Raiders before his contract was up and go to Notre Dame. It was nothing more than a media rumor at its height, probably planted by the Raiders to make him look bad.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
The guy is (or was) a DB killa
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Davy Jones,
as a Raider fan who hasn’t seen more than 8 wins in 9 years, a different approach is welcome here imo
August 18th, 2011 at 11:18 am
JB, I know the players never quit on Cable, like in years past, even the 5-11 season when they were out of the playoffs, they didn’t quit, before Hue got here. Maybe that credit should go to Richard Seymour?
I like what I see fom HueJax, I just thought the Baltimore perspective was interesting. We won’t know till Monday Nite.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Besides TO, and say, Whosyourmama…who else is out there?
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Hwnrdr,
just a minute – I got ya covered
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
*sigh* MR, you’re so full of it. You trash Al Davis for signing an over the hill reciever with character concerns (Javon Walker) and now you want him to sign another?
You criticize Al Davis for making bad choices in FA, and then criticize him for not going out and spending boatloads to bring in FA but instead resigning his OWN FA and building through the draft?
You don’t care about what is right for the Raiders. You just criticze Al Davis for whatever he’s doing currently. You flip flop so often, MR ought to stand for Mitt Romney.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Mistic, you’re the one who said Davis takes accountability. He’s never taken accountability for not giving Gruden a new contract. And that mistake ruined the franchise. The Raiders got one good year immediately after Gruden left, and its been a free fall ever since.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
KoolKell Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:18 am
JB, I know the players never quit on Cable, like in years past, even the 5-11 season when they were out of the playoffs, they didn’t quit, before Hue got here. Maybe that credit should go to Richard Seymour?
I like what I see fom HueJax, I just thought the Baltimore perspective was interesting. We won’t know till Monday Nite.
Our O was top 10 last year with no passing game, and that wasn’t due to Tom Cable
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Jason Campbell is looking good. Al Saunders said they went back and reviewed every pass from a drop back situation in practice and Campbell is completing 76 percent of them- rich langford silver & black pride
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Looks like its going to be pay back time for JC
August 18th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Davy, I never said I wanted Al to sign T.O. Pull up the comment where I say that. I’m just merely addressing the criticism of him. I’m a fact checker. It’s how I think.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Injuries are killing us…….! It’s only week 2 and we are running a hospital. Football Gods send us a bit of good news!!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Mistic, you’re the one who said Davis takes accountability. He’s never taken accountability for not giving Gruden a new contract. And that mistake ruined the franchise. The Raiders got one good year immediately after Gruden left, and its been a free fall ever since.
Gruden got Dungy’s team to win a superbowl and what did after that?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:21 am
373.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:16 am
show me those rings Garcia and McNabb got without T.O.
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Romo & Palmer, too!
The same can be said if you go the opposite…show me those rings with TO…
The one that I thought that should have won the SB was Philladelphia. I admit, TO was the best player that day, and with a pin in his foot or whatever that was…and I do agree with his assessment of McNab that day. He did look like he either got too tired or gave up…However…I am not McNab and none of us are and therefore we don’t know for sure!
But in my opinion, I think that was his LAST great year, but like Moss…no SB wins cold be kharma against what they have publically done, when many of that should have stayed in house!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Tom Cable this..Tom Cable that…Tom Cable likes Filipino hookers.8-8 sucks when clearly we were an 10-6 team ZBS? ..get the f$@k out of here.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
My beloved green and gold have finally rectified the first base train wreck. Branden allen is the truth. bean dip finally got one right
August 18th, 2011 at 11:25 am
How many weeks did we spend on him bombing on a coach ? 2 ..3 months…Hue Jackson is the Savior.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:26 am
InonewordRaider,
Davis got Gruden’s team to a Super Bowl, and did what after that? Oh, btw, in that Super Bowl, he got stomped out by Gruden.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:27 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Mistic, you’re the one who said Davis takes accountability. He’s never taken accountability for not giving Gruden a new contract. And that mistake ruined the franchise. The Raiders got one good year immediately after Gruden left, and its been a free fall ever since.
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Taking action to remedy missteps is accountability, this includes turning over coaches and rosters
August 18th, 2011 at 11:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Davy Jones,
as a Raider fan who hasn’t seen more than 8 wins in 9 years, a different approach is welcome here imo
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I like the emphasis on character that’s been happening these last few years. I think TOs skills are diminished, and I think that his potential to be a cancer hasn’t. If those skills EVER justified the way he treats his QBs, they ain’t doing it like they used to.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Tampa racked up solid offensive stats in SB 37. Remember that 10 minute drive in the 3rd quarter? Make no mistake:
SUPER BOWL 37 WAS JON GRUDEN VS. AL DAVIS.
GRUDEN’S PHILOSOPHY VS. DAVIS’S PHILOSOPHY.
THE GRUDEN WAY VS. THE DAVIS WAY.
And, we know the result.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Worlds worst tipper…#1 Tiger Woods…LOL
Jim Rome show
August 18th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Tampa racked up solid offensive stats in SB 37. Remember that 10 minute drive in the 3rd quarter? Make no mistake:
SUPER BOWL 37 WAS JON GRUDEN VS. AL DAVIS.
GRUDEN’S PHILOSOPHY VS. DAVIS’S PHILOSOPHY.
THE GRUDEN WAY VS. THE DAVIS WAY.
And, we know the result.
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that was a tony dungy team the year before gruden took it over.. they were already a great team when gruden got there.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Our O was top 10 last year with no passing game, and that wasn’t due to Tom Cable
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Who knows?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am
The football gods are fair. we took DHb to high, but we were able to steal moore very late.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am
398
seriously dude.. cable was a complete joke. everyone knows it so quit with the “cable had us in the right direction” BS!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am
GRUDEN’S PHILOSOPHY VS. DAVIS’S PHILOSOPHY.
THE GRUDEN WAY VS. THE DAVIS WAY.
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We both ran the wco on offense.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am
#2 is Madonna. .. left $18 smackaroos tip
On A $400 bill…… wow.. now that’s cheap..lol
August 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am
More like Tony Dungy vs Al Davis with one hand tied behind his back
August 18th, 2011 at 11:37 am
that was a tony dungy team the year before gruden took it over.. they were already a great team when gruden got there.
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Lame.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:37 am
398
also hue-jack called the plays last year, not cable..
if you want to see what a cable-led-team looks like, look two years ago when he called all the plays.. ouch.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
404
those are the “lame” facts
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Tampa racked up solid offensive stats in SB 37. Remember that 10 minute drive in the 3rd quarter? Make no mistake:
SUPER BOWL 37 WAS JON GRUDEN VS. AL DAVIS.
GRUDEN’S PHILOSOPHY VS. DAVIS’S PHILOSOPHY.
THE GRUDEN WAY VS. THE DAVIS WAY.
And, we know the result.
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The result? From the way you go on about it, an enjoyable day for you. You are a Gruden fan, not a Raider fan.
And in light of Barret Robbins, TB knowing the playbook and an aging roster having one week off instead of two, Gruden vs. Davis is an oversimplification at best.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGJHHHHHHHHHHHHH
TC was not a complete joke.
He got us to 8-8 after the most dismal stretch in Raider history. He cleaned up the losing atmosphere and changed the attitude in the locker room.
May the Creator bless TC
Yes he had Hue to help but TC must have done something right
August 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am
406.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
404
those are the “lame” facts
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The “Facts” are that Gruden beat the schit out of the Raiders in that Super Bowl, sending Al Davis into an 8 year tizzie.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am
tom cable did nothing for this team but baby them into the season with dumb a$$ walk-through waste of time training camp.. then we watched the hue-jackson show all of last year. so yeah, i guess tom cable can have some credit for taking a GOOD step back..
August 18th, 2011 at 11:43 am
409.KoolKell Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:42 am
406.J-Raider Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
404
those are the “lame” facts
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The “Facts” are that Gruden beat the schit out of the Raiders in that Super Bowl, sending Al Davis into an 8 year tizzie.
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with a tony dungy coached team, yes he certainly did!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I like the emphasis on character that’s been happening these last few years.
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Davy,
Me too – for the most part. But when you have a young unproven group and there’s a cheap productive vet in free agency, you get him and don’t think twice
Let Hue Jackson worry about the locker room!
I don’t understand why so many Raider fans piss & moan about locker room chemistry, when our team isn’t winning many games. I could understand if you didn’t want to ruin a good thing, but the Raiders need to do whatever it takes to be competitive. We finished 3rd in the AFC West last season and I don’t see KC or SD backing down this year either
Raider fans got scared about the new salary cap too, but now we’re $5 million UNDER and have room to add a few guys before the season starts – as stated this morning … if Owens starts mouthing off and he doesn’t return to form after this ACL injury, get rid of him! no harm, no foul. He isn’t going to cost you millions in guaranteed money fellas
and if we finish worse than 8-8 this season, it won’t be due to the play of Terrell Owens. bank on that
August 18th, 2011 at 11:45 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Yes he had Hue to help but TC must have done something right
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His technique on the left hook was pretty solid…allegedly
August 18th, 2011 at 11:45 am
KK, I see your spending less time here, thats a good thing. Did your wife put his foot down and law down some law or did you get a part-time gig sweeping up @ the barbershop?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Yes he had Hue to help but TC must have done something right
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he was clearly an expert with navigating buffet lines
August 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am
he definitly could throw the roundhouse for sure…
August 18th, 2011 at 11:47 am
RRS,
Right now is not the time to bring in TO.
Week 3 might be a different story.
I know my man Armond is going to get on me for this, but LMN is right when he says it’s time to move on from Chaz. It’s specifically Chaz and his injury proneness that has us constantly revisiting this need to sign a WR topic.
Thankfully, Chaz is not even listed as the #1 WR at his position on the depth chart. We have options like Ford, Moore, and Hagan that can catch the 5 balls a game our offense is going to produce for them. DHB and Bodiford are nice prospects that can handle the 4 and 5 positions for now. When Murphy comes back, that’s a solid 6.
We are a run first team so we are not going to have a WR that gets 14 TD a season. On top of that, the ball is spread around too much when we do pass for 1 WRto get those type of numbers.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am
j hill
WOW did you just say dhb is a project????!!!! after all we went through the other day and NOW you agree with me?! HAHAHA
August 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I would have much rather had Ocho-cinco, than T.O.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I WOULD RATHER HAVE ANQUAN BOLDIN!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:53 am
DHB SUCKS! HE WILL ALWAYS SUCK! YOU CAN’T TEACH HANDS.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:53 am
i posted the 420th post lol
August 18th, 2011 at 11:54 am
J- Raider, Gruden put the Raiders out on the scoreboard too. Those defensive INTs came late when it was already over. Gruden’s O put up 34 up to that point. The Raiders knew Gruden’s offense just as well he knew theirs. IT was Davis vs. Gruden. And we know who won out.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:54 am
421
very well put sir!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Cannot wait for the game this weekend and the matchup of Campbell vs. Smith.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Davy, Raiders knew Gruden’s playbook, too. He still torched them. Remember the 10 minute drive in the 3r quarter? That was all with Gruden’s conservative offense. Defense knew every play action, every motion, everything. Same offense they’d been running. Still couldn’t stop it. Gruden put up 34 points on the Raiders offensively before the pick 6 parade began. The game was already over at the point. They were all just dressing.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:56 am
423
again, that was a dungy coached team up to that season.. those players were very well coached up to that point, and gruden had the opportunity to ride the gravy train to the superbowl.. just so happened to be against us..
August 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Cannot wait for the game this weekend and the matchup of Campbell vs. Smith.
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what for 1 quarter?? pre-season is for the back-ups thats all..
August 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
anyone else ready for a new post?
August 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Raiders knew Gruden’s offense just as much as Gruden knew theirs. There was no advantage. It was just Gruden vs. Davis, straight up.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
390.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
My beloved green and gold have finally rectified the first base train wreck. Branden allen is the truth. bean dip finally got one right
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Brandon Allen!!
Finally Beane finds someone who can play!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Tom was king pimp for awhile
Knocking out smart arse nerds and whining and dining high class whores
Gotta give him some props
He loved the Raiders
August 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Right now is not the time to bring in TO.
Week 3 might be a different story.
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Jhill,
Alright. Owens will be completely healthy by then and that’ll give us a few weeks to evaluate the current WR’s to see how much progress they have (or haven’t) made
Fair Enough?
No guarantee Owens is still available by WK3 of the regular season though. Still 3 weeks of Preseason and 2 weeks of the regular season for freak injuries to occur to important wideouts around the league – including ours!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
163.guest123 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:15 am
I love the Raiders. But it’s tough to ignore all the injuries, the weak secondary, the unsettled O-line, the schedule, and ignore it all. and Hue’s “next man up” motto is getting old.
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The “next man up” slogan can only go so far until reality kicks in.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Tom was king pimp for awhile
Knocking out smart arse nerds and whining and dining high class whores
Gotta give him some props
He loved the Raiders
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Cable BUMAYE!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Hwnrdr,
available WR’s besides Owens & Housh …
Hank Baskett
Chris Chambers
Mark Clayton
Kevin Curtis
Brian Finneran
Mike Furrey
Bryant Johnson
Greg Lewis
Ruvell Martin
Legedu Naanee
Antwaan Randle El
Brandon Stokley
Limas Sweed
August 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Thanks Rockstar! Who would you take off of that list? I thik I will only go with Randle El at this point…
August 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I’m cool with DHB, Murphy, Ford, Moore & Schilens
Derek Hagan as my 6th.
If Chaz Schilens can’t get healthy?
sign Terrell Owens
If Louis Murphy can’t get healthy?
sign Terrell Owens
If Heyward-Bey can’t catch a cold?
sign Terrell Owens
If Denny Moore isn’t as good as advertised?
sign Terrell Owens
August 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Chuck B didn’t blitz enough and couldn’t stop the run in the Super Bowl.
The biggie was Gruden being 5 steps ahead of Callahan and idiots Al Davis, Callahan and Trestman not changing the offensive strategy before the Super Bowl and not making adjustments fast enough during the game on offense. The idiots didn’t change their audible calls either on offense.
They should have known Gruden would know there game plan and audibles.
Callahan, Trestman and Gannon were all to stubborn to make changes….they felt their offense was too good to be stopped.
The other biggie was when Garner dropped that TD pass in the seam. If he would have caught that pass for the TD, the Raiders might have had a chance.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
438.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I’m cool with DHB, Murphy, Ford, Moore & Schilens
Derek Hagan as my 6th.
If Chaz Schilens can’t get healthy?
sign Terrell Owens
If Louis Murphy can’t get healthy?
sign Terrell Owens
If Heyward-Bey can’t catch a cold?
sign Terrell Owens
If Denny Moore isn’t as good as advertised?
sign Terrell Owens
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All things point to the team needing to sign T.O. IF his knee checks out healthy.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
TO a 49er….no need for him…thanks
August 18th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Some of yall are just closet niner fans I believe
August 18th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Who would you take off of that list?
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Hwnrdr,
It depends on what you’re looking for!
Randle El has value as a return man and can be used on trick plays at QB or WR. Not a bad you want stealing WR reps though. He only caught 22 balls last year and fumbled twice. 32 years old. Never had more than 4 TD’s in a season. Would he be willing to come to Oakland as our 5th or 6th receiving option?
Not even close to the return we could get from a player like Owens or Housh …
August 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Sign T.O. or Housh!!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
ROG,
hate the 49ers all you want, man.
more power to ya!
I just don’t like to see a Raider fan lobby against bringing in talent because of some strange bias or superstition
Doesn’t matter where the player comes from. If they produce, they are welcome here.
Your hatred for Jerry Rice has me puzzled as well.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Some of yall are just closet niner fans I believe
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Any former FairyNiner turned Raider that you approve of? Not even Charlie Garner?
August 18th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Over 40 whiners
August 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
446.8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
And I agree which is just shameful.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
447.DutchRaider77 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Some of yall are just closet niner fans I believe
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Any former FairyNiner turned Raider that you approve of? Not even Charlie Garner?
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Screw Charlene Garbager….I hated that bz too…what happened with Garbager? yeah destruction and what ensued was worse than ever….thats what we deserved
August 18th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
445.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
ROG,
hate the 49ers all you want, man.
more power to ya!
I just don’t like to see a Raider fan lobby against bringing in talent because of some strange bias or superstition
Doesn’t matter where the player comes from. If they produce, they are welcome here.
Your hatred for Jerry Rice has me puzzled as well.
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I’m not a fan…thanks
August 18th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I ran it down what curse of 49er love did to us…it took our shot away at a title…GOD dont like ugly and we paid dearly for it….as I predicted on local radio
August 18th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Screw Charlene Garbager….I hated that bz too
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He was a multi-talented running back and an excellent receiver. In the 2002-03 season with the Oakland Raiders, he was the team’s leading rusher with 962 yards and seven touchdowns, while also leading all NFL running backs in receiving with 91 receptions for 941 yards and another four touchdowns.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I ran it down what curse of 49er love did to us…it took our shot away at a title…GOD dont like ugly and we paid dearly for it….as I predicted on local radio
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God has nothing to do with it.
and if you think we would have made it as far as the Super Bowl without former 49ers Garner, Rice & Romanowski, you’re dreaming!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
453.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Screw Charlene Garbager….I hated that bz too
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He was a multi-talented running back and an excellent receiver. In the 2002-03 season with the Oakland Raiders, he was the team’s leading rusher with 962 yards and seven touchdowns, while also leading all NFL running backs in receiving with 91 receptions for 941 yards and another four touchdowns.
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Multi phaggoted
August 18th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
then he dropped that TD pass…
Well, that wasn’t the only thing that went wrong…
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
454.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I ran it down what curse of 49er love did to us…it took our shot away at a title…GOD dont like ugly and we paid dearly for it….as I predicted on local radio
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God has nothing to do with it.
and if you think we would have made it as far as the Super Bowl without former 49ers Garner, Rice & Romanowski, you’re dreaming!
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Yawn we were on the brink of SB in 2000 without those phaggots and a 49er named Marquez Dope showed his true 49er self….thanks
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Raiders were top rushing team in NFL before garner came……see what transpired from that point on LOL….NEXT
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Nobody wants T.O., anybody who wants him is a nobody.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Michael Crabtree just got out of the walking boot on Monday.
Frank Gore still has a banged up (was broken?) hip
If we don’t pummel the 49ers on Saturday, it’ll be because our depth still needs work.
starters vs. starters we should murder them!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
No to both.
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# DKnight007 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Sign T.O. or Housh!!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Nap Kaufman<—-RAIDER….Charlene Garbager<—–Biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch
August 18th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
460.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Michael Crabtree just got out of the walking boot on Monday.
Frank Gore still has a banged up (was broken?) hip
If we don’t pummel the 49ers on Saturday, it’ll be because our depth still needs work.
starters vs. starters we should murder them!
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Murdering 49ers? Now you talking RRS….get some more of that Red Bull in ya
August 18th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Nobody wants T.O., anybody who wants him is a nobody.
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LOL!
one could argue that anybody who wants DHB – a guy with 35 catches in 25 starts “is a nobody”
Chaz missed 19 games over the past 2 years and is injured AGAIN
August 18th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Norv Turner could coach rings around Tom Cable. Tom Cable was a custodian nothing more. He did what he was allowe dto do to get to where we are now. Getting us to Hue Jackson was as far as he could take us. Give him credit for cleaning some things up but he is NOT what you need if you want to win.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Anybody have any info on what Chris Johnson had surgery on?
August 18th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
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yep he did hookers that were positive with hepatitis
August 18th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Nobody wants him……..get it!
UFL maybe teams are done with his act he aint worth the headache anymore… when you put up the #’s he puts up and teams pass on you that’s all that needs to be said. He’s a cancer…………period
August 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Funny, I remember you comparing him to John Madden.
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priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Norv Turner could coach rings around Tom Cable.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
tj, do we have a problem? We can handle this anyway you want.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
teams are done with his act he aint worth the headache anymore… when you put up the #’s he puts up and teams pass on you that’s all that needs to be said. He’s a cancer
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Priest,
production trumps all else in Oakland. at least it should anyways
August 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
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yep he did indeed!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
446.8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
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Come on, Norv was better than Cable.
Hell, if you could take Al Davis out of the equation I would hire Kiffin back before Cable.
Cable was never qualified for that job. He isn’t even qualified to coach a lower division college team. Come on man.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
WAIDERS BABIES GONNA PAY FOR WHAT THEY DID TO CABLE!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Norv Turner could coach rings around Tom Cable
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Cable beat him 2-0 last year
August 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Michael Crabtree is starting to look like a disappointment and next will be a bust if he can’t turn it around.
Truely speaking if I had the choice even based on what I know now I might take DHB over Crabs he’s slow always hurt and can’t beat press coverage. He’s a disappointment. If DHB steps his game up this could lok just the opposite of what everyone thought of it a couple of years ago. DHB just might have a longer better career.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Norv Turner could coach rings around Tom Cable.
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469.MistaBrown Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Funny, I remember you comparing him to John Madden.
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Lol, yes he did.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
The niners knew we would of taken kappernick with our 2nd rnd pick, I love the pick of wiz 2 but that would of been our future qb right there. O well can’t wait to beat those fage%s across the bay.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
# Dakota Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
446.8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
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Come on, Norv was not better than Cable.
Hell, if you could take Al Davis out of the equation I would hire Kiffin and Cable back!!
Cable was over qualified for that job. He is even over qualified to coach the higher division college teams. Come on man.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
459.priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Nobody wants T.O., anybody who wants him is a nobody.
^^^^^^^^
Anyone who has blind confidence on unreliable guys like DHB and Chaz is a NOBODY!
PERIOD!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
I heard on the radio earlier today that Crabtree has only had 2 100 yard games and I was shocked. These were niner fans complaining about the guy. They’re starting to sour on him.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
not sure the callahan and trestman had enough time to install new audibles or completely reshape the offense in a weeks time.
We were betrayed by gannons noodle arm as well. his carriage turned into a pumpkin on live tv during that game. he was more like cinderfella with a glass pipe instead of glass slippers.
Im afraid that was the perfect storm
August 18th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
GONNA PAY FOR WHAT THEY DID TO CABLE!!!!
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what did we do to him?
Al Davis made him a Head Coach in the NFL and paid him millions!
He grew up a Raiders fan and Davis fulfilled his lifelong dream.
I assume you’re referring to what Al said about Tom in the Hue Jackson press conference?
who cares about that? It didn’t prevent him from landing another job, did it?
Cable wasn’t even fired. His contract expired, doofus!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Tom Cable could coach rings around Norv Turner!
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Cable beat him 2-0 last year
August 18th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Hue Jackson and JC beat Norv TC has never beat Norv give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He benched the QB who beat Norv……..he’s an idiot!!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
# DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
The niners knew we would of taken kappernick with our 2nd rnd pick, I love the pick of wiz 2 but that would of been our future qb right there. O well can’t wait to beat those fage%s across the bay.
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Kappy looked light years away from being able to run an nfl offense
August 18th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Raiders knew Gruden’s offense just as much as Gruden knew theirs. There was no advantage. It was just Gruden vs. Davis, straight up.
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As usual, you leave out pertinent info. TB players reported actually hearing the calls and knowing what was coming because the names of plays hadn’t been changed since Gruden’s departure. Show us your evidence that the Raiders understood the TB playcalling before the snap.
There isn’t any, is there conspiracy boy.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Cable & Turner are both fuktards. What are you arguing about? Geesus!
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# dvrick Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Tom Cable could coach rings around Norv Turner!
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Cable beat him 2-0 last year
August 18th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Dvrick must be one of Tom Cable’s skanks………….LOL
August 18th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
GONNA PAY FOR WHAT THEY DID TO CABLE!!!!
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Yes the Raiders will pay for what they did to him?
Al Davis made him a Head Coach in the NFL and paid him millions!
He grew up a Raiders fan and Davis fulfilled his lifelong dream.
I assume you’re referring to what Al said about Tom in the Hue Jackson press conference?
we care about that! It didn’t prevent him from landing another job, though.
Cable wasn’t fired. His contract expired1
August 18th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
# Davy Jones Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Raiders knew Gruden’s offense just as much as Gruden knew theirs. There was no advantage. It was just Gruden vs. Davis, straight up.
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As usual, you leave out pertinent info. TB players reported actually hearing the calls and knowing what was coming because the names of plays hadn’t been changed since Gruden’s departure. Show us your evidence that the Raiders understood the TB playcalling before the snap.
There isn’t any, is there conspiracy boy.
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Derick brooks said that he was calling out the audibles and plays to the defense.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Anybody know what the name of the radio station in Oakland that talks raider football. ..
August 18th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Cable might be the worst head coach of all time. he is up there with kotite
August 18th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
95.7 the game
August 18th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Dvrick must be one of Tom Cable’s fans like me…………!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Thanks mistic.. appreciate
August 18th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Then we beat tampa at the end of 08-09 and grudens team missed playoffs. After that lil chucky got his a$$ canned. I am sure that put a smile on al”s face.
August 18th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Hue Jackson and JC beat Norv TC has never beat Norv give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He benched the QB who beat Norv……..he’s an idiot!!
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Hue Jackson took credit for benching JCamp
need a link?
August 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Yah that’s the one that hangs up on tj.
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# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
95.7 the game
August 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Cable might be one of the BEST head coaches of all time. he is up there with the best anyway!
August 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE WORST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
T
August 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
The only thing cable ever beat was
A.) his wife for cutting in line at the dessert table
b.) asst coaches for being smarter than he was
c.) his own meat while looking at posters of gradkowski and kwame harris
August 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
464.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Nobody wants T.O., anybody who wants him is a nobody.
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LOL!
one could argue that anybody who wants DHB – a guy with 35 catches in 25 starts “is a nobody”
Chaz missed 19 games over the past 2 years and is injured AGAIN
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LOL RRS….thats pretty funny I’ll admit
August 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
dvrick Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
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who the fugg is this clown and why is trying to put words in my mouth
August 18th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
504.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
The only thing cable ever beat was
A.) his wife for cutting in line at the dessert table
b.) asst coaches for being smarter than he was
c.) his own meat while looking at posters of gradkowski and kwame harris
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Mistic you are awesome lol
August 18th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
dvrick Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
506.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
dvrick Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
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who the fugg is this clown and why is trying to put words in my mouth
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TS D-ck is another troll ingrate with no life…we are his super bowl
August 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I am starting to think we fugged up by not taking a flyer on Gaither, he isn’t even starting over the with the Quiefs, he could of provided some solid depth with us. O well, L. Davis from Dallas is off the table also so there goes some more solid depth for the o-line.
August 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm THAT WAS A DUMB STATEMENT!!
August 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
dvrick Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
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who the fugg is this clown and why is trying to put words in my mouth
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Mistic your losing your touch…childish posts=RMR. RMR take your meds…
August 18th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
506.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Rememeber cable calling the reverse ….TO JANOKOWSKI??!?!?!?
THAT WAS THE BEST PLAY DESIGN AND CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS PRO OR AMATEUR!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
# DutchRaider77 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Mistic your losing your touch…childish posts=RMR. RMR take your meds…
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thanks for the pull up Dutch i should have known
August 18th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I am starting to think we fugged up by not taking a flyer on Gaither, he isn’t even starting over the with the Quiefs, he could of provided some solid depth with us. O well, L. Davis from Dallas is off the table also so there goes some more solid depth for the o-line.
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DEATHROW 55,
Davis or Brian Waters would be solid adds for the O-Line, but who knows what the asking price is?
It seems like we’re full at guard now anyways. Heyer and Wiz II are competing at LG with Wiz the favorite since Heyer is injured. Loper will back up up there
Satele grabbed the Center job. Carlisle at RG with BCamp backing him up
Veldheer/Barnes at LT
Wiz II/Loper at LG
Satele/Wiz II at C
Carlisle/BCamp at RG
Barksdale/Heyer at RT
If Satele gets hurt or benched, that moves Wiz II to Center and makes Loper a starter at LG (unless Heyer is healthy)
The O-Line will be fine imo
August 18th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Kirk Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
In other news….
Hue Jackson, speaking from Parkland Hospital, said that President Kennedy is “just a little nicked up” and should be fine.
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Comment of the week. Outstanding!
August 18th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
515.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I am starting to think we fugged up by not taking a flyer on Gaither, he isn’t even starting over the with the Quiefs, he could of provided some solid depth with us. O well, L. Davis from Dallas is off the table also so there goes some more solid depth for the o-line.
***
DEATHROW 55,
Davis or Brian Waters would be solid adds for the O-Line, but who knows what the asking price is?
It seems like we’re full at guard now anyways. Heyer and Wiz II are competing at LG with Wiz the favorite since Heyer is injured. Loper will back up up there
Satele grabbed the Center job. Carlisle at RG with BCamp backing him up
Veldheer/Barnes at LT
Wiz II/Loper at LG
Satele/Wiz II at C
Carlisle/BCamp at RG
Barksdale/Heyer at RT
If Satele gets hurt or benched, that moves Wiz II to Center and makes Loper a starter at LG (unless Heyer is healthy)
The O-Line will be fine imo
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Yeah sounds about right….now if we can just get ya off this TO thing you would be semi pro of the year
August 18th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Does anybody agree w/me that B. Campbell is being used at the wrong position. Dude is a speed freak that has long arms. He’s not week either the kid is built like a defensive end. He should be our Left tackle and Veldheer our Right tackle since Veldheer is a bull dozer as a run blocker. Unfortunally he was groomed in our system as a gaurd and looks like he has no chance at tackle where he belongs.
August 18th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
518.DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Does anybody agree w/me that B. Campbell is being used at the wrong position. Dude is a speed freak that has long arms. He’s not week either the kid is built like a defensive end. He should be our Left tackle and Veldheer our Right tackle since Veldheer is a bull dozer as a run blocker. Unfortunally he was groomed in our system as a gaurd and looks like he has no chance at tackle where he belongs.
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I agree he is being used wrong…..should be on the scout team at best
August 18th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
446.8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Tom Cable was the best Raider coach since Gruden. He might not be the best but he did some very positive things.
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Come on, Norv was better than Cable.
Hell, if you could take Al Davis out of the equation I would hire Kiffin back before Cable.
Cable was never qualified for that job. He isn’t even qualified to coach a lower division college team. Come on man.
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Norv?!!! Norv Turner?!!!!!
What was his record? Look at what he’s doing to SD/ Washington. Norv Turner = O coordinator.
August 18th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
now if we can just get ya off this TO thing you would be semi pro of the year
***
ROG,
I don’t blame you guys for having faith in the young WR Corps. It’s just green. raw. unproven. passing game was bad last season. I wish I could beleive things will be 100 percent better than last season just because of another year of experience or another year in the system. Our top 3 WR’s are hurt. DHB missed the first 9 prcatices and we all know what he’s accomplished in his first 25 starts – not much. Moore is impressive in camp, but he’s still a rookie. It’s not a given that he’ll set the world on fire as a rookie. He may not even start if the other guys are healthy. Rookies make mistakes. the sky is blue. Thats just the way it is. Kevin Boss is a good TE, but he’s not a receiving threat like Zach Miller was. Better blocker yes, but he drops a lot of balls and NY didn’t make a huge push to get him under contract. Got high hopes for Ausberry, but again – he’s a rookie. Moore & Ausberry are not going to be Oakland’s version of Jackson & Gates or Bowe & Moeaki in 2011
Terrell Owens is needed. Just my opinion
August 18th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
the sky is blue.
———-
Myth. Optical illusion. Hoax.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Terrell Owens is needed
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Myth. Optical illusion. Hoax.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Norv Turner?!!!! Bwahahahahaha.
YOU’RE KIDDING RIGHT?!
Funny stat: Tom Cable’s vs. Norv Turner = 2-1. LOL!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
@Rockstar,
TO now? Or TO in a couple weeks when there is a better idea if his knee is healing well?
Cannot imagine he has that many options? Seems that most of the organizations he has played for probably will not sign him again: Bengels, 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys or Bills?
Thinks Saunders will employ more FB and RB dumpoffs and have Boss block more than Miller did?
August 18th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
521.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
now if we can just get ya off this TO thing you would be semi pro of the year
***
ROG,
I don’t blame you guys for having faith in the young WR Corps. It’s just green. raw. unproven. passing game was bad last season. I wish I could beleive things will be 100 percent better than last season just because of another year of experience or another year in the system. Our top 3 WR’s are hurt. DHB missed the first 9 prcatices and we all know what he’s accomplished in his first 25 starts – not much. Moore is impressive in camp, but he’s still a rookie. It’s not a given that he’ll set the world on fire as a rookie. He may not even start if the other guys are healthy. Rookies make mistakes. the sky is blue. Thats just the way it is. Kevin Boss is a good TE, but he’s not a receiving threat like Zach Miller was. Better blocker yes, but he drops a lot of balls and NY didn’t make a huge push to get him under contract. Got high hopes for Ausberry, but again – he’s a rookie. Moore & Ausberry are not going to be Oakland’s version of Jackson & Gates or Bowe & Moeaki in 2011
Terrell Owens is needed. Just my opinion
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Its all good RRS we all know you solid
August 18th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
But enough of all dat BS…..48 hours we play SF….dhb concerns me….i dont see a confident player out there IMO
August 18th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Callahan, Trestman and Gannon could have at least changed the audibles to simple signals. It wouldn’t have been that hard. Right after Tampa beat Philly, Callahan, Trestman and Gannon should have been working to change the audibles and change the snap count for certain play calls.
They should have established the run immeditely and dumped the ball off to Garner and Wheatley more instead of trying to attack and force the ball down the field.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
TO now? Or TO in a couple weeks when there is a better idea if his knee is healing well?
***
@Dutch
either way. I just want a WR that I know will produce
Not one that I think or I hope. not one with potential
How many times do we have to sing that song?
and how many times has it sounded like crap ???
August 18th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Having blind faith in unreliable guys like DHB and Chaz is just plain delusional!
August 18th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
529.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
TO now? Or TO in a couple weeks when there is a better idea if his knee is healing well?
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@Dutch
either way. I just want a WR that I know will produce
Not one that I think or I hope. not one with potential
How many times do we have to sing that song?
and how many times has it sounded like crap ???
^^^^^^^
EXACTLY!
August 18th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
DHB is so replaceable it’s not even a concern, if he gets the droppsies #17 will be in there with a quickness. Nuff said, Ford is solid, Murph is solid, Schillins is solid when healthy.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Think Saunders will employ more FB and RB dumpoffs and have Boss block more than Miller did?
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@Dutch
I don’t know much about Saunders other than that interview from a few days ago. I know he’s an old dude with Air Coryell roots that Al Davis has coveted for the past 10 years or so
It took Hue Jackson & Jason Campbell connections to finally get him here. Hope it was worth the wait!
Nobody was banging down the door to hire him as OC this season, but nobody was banging down the door for Hue Jackson as HC or Jason Campbell as QB either … either Al Davis is gonna look like a genious when all this is said & done or just another attempt at greatness with guys who don’t have better options and it results in yet another 8+ loss season (then you know we’ll hear it from the naysayers “nobody good will ever go to Oakland” etc etc)
August 18th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RRS….no matter who we have….this thing is all on JC. That’s my guy and all but excuses aint gonna fly in 2011…..CODE BLACK
August 18th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
532.DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
DHB is so replaceable it’s not even a concern, if he gets the droppsies #17 will be in there with a quickness. Nuff said, Ford is solid, Murph is solid, Schillins is solid when healthy.
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The thing is Murph is hurt for at least week 3 from what it sounds like. DHB is unreliable and so it Chaz.
Raiders need someone who can contribute right away.
If T.O’s knee checks out and he can be in the lineup by week 2 or week 3. Sign him up on the cheap.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Actually HuJack was on SF and Denver’s radar. I am sure there were other teams that saw the turnaround he did to our offense. The laughing stock of the league was finally in the top catagories for rushing and points.
SO I am sure GM’s around the league know what we got and were waiting for us to keep Cable so they could swoop in on Hujack. Fact of the matter HuJack would of left for a HC job if we WOULD of retained Cable man.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
How many wideouts recover quickly from early season groin/hammy surgery? Usually those guys struggle to make it back by the tenth week or so.
Hammy’s are hard to gauge in their improvement, and I don’t expect Murphy to be a big contributor this year.
DMoore needs to step into his role, and I think he will.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
# DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Actually HuJack was on SF and Denver’s radar. I am sure there were other teams that saw the turnaround he did to our offense. The laughing stock of the league was finally in the top catagories for rushing and points.
SO I am sure GM’s around the league know what we got and were waiting for us to keep Cable so they could swoop in on Hujack. Fact of the matter HuJack would of left for a HC job if we WOULD of retained Cable man.
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Book it
August 18th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Dont get me wrong I would take TO if we got him but no way am I asking for him to come to Oaktown and Fuc$ up our chemestry. He does produce and is still a big stong wr that can make a play but I fuc#in hate Drama. And TO is a straight up QUEEN.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
If we draft pryor we should use a 5th and we could use him like they did with vick when he first came to philly when mcnabb was starting qb. Have pryor do wildcats
August 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I doubt we draft him but thats the only reason and then just groom him over time
August 18th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I wonder what MRisms we will get in a few minutes….no one wanted al saunders….no one wanted hue jackson….grads is greatest qb ever…..where are those 2 or 3 great players….yadda yadda blah blah blaaaaaaaaaaaaah
August 18th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
If we draft pryor we should use a 5th and we could use him like they did with vick when he first came to philly when mcnabb was starting qb. Have pryor do wildcats
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Any formation that takes campbell off the field is a wasted play.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Gotta get it, I got gots to get it …
Just spinning a little Tribe on the dj station, getting warmed up for my exclusive pool party jam tonight. Think I’ll mix this joint right into a little Cinderella backed by some Thompson Twins remixes circa 83 what what.
Gotta hold this party down, holla back
Nerds, this am my ladies and I enjoyed some fresh Mai Tais during our hot tub session. Then while they made out a bit I had my butler rustle up a bucket of Pioneer chicken.
The hot tub looked liked a deep fryer when we were finished with it, if you know what I’m saying. Holla back.
CHEESE WIZZLES IN THE DMC
August 18th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Al need’s take a chance and take pryor but poor old man is probabley trauamtized to draft a qb NOW after the Jumarcus travesty. But it would sure make him look genuis if we take Pryor in the supplement and he turns out to be bad a$$ in 2 years.
I agree with the wild cat we need to mix that in we have all the right peices we dont even need Pryor for that. DMAC is a rb that can throw and catch, Bush is a rb that can throw and catch then mix in Ford along w/Moore or DHB. Would love to see that in our future.
August 18th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
If we draft pryor we should use a 5th and we could use him like they did with vick when he first came to philly when mcnabb was starting qb. Have pryor do wildcats
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Any formation that takes campbell off the field is a wasted play.
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He will be playing receiver…Didn’t Joe Flacco throw, run and catch a TD against us?
August 18th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
546.DutchRaider77 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
If we draft pryor we should use a 5th and we could use him like they did with vick when he first came to philly when mcnabb was starting qb. Have pryor do wildcats
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Any formation that takes campbell off the field is a wasted play.
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He will be playing receiver…Didn’t Joe Flacco throw, run and catch a TD against us?
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Not a TD but a big play no doubt….sad that day
August 18th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think we will sign TO if not then Chaz mist be healthy as an ox but we just need a vet WR and TO fits the bill. But he is aging but i still think he has atleast a good year left in him. He did overplay ochocinco. And if you guys worry about his mouth im aure he will be quiet just like he was in buffalo but the reason he probably talked alot last year because look at who he was playing with ochocinco
August 18th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Do you have a crystal ball?
Otherwise stay away from Pryor.
Why is it that everyone thinks this guy will be a great NFL player.
We don’t need another project on our team we have enough already.
If NE took Pryor in the supplemental draft it would be genius if Al Davis takes him all the talking heads will say what a wasted draft pick.
The bottom line is that we do not have a 2nd or 4th rounder next year so NO we are not drafting him, give it up already you guys act like he is the second coming of Montana but he didn’t even get a sniff from any of the 32 teams in 7 rounds.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Raider fans puttng personality ahead of production. These are the Raiders still, right?
August 18th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
550.alex7 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Raider fans puttng personality ahead of production. These are the Raiders still, right?
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Alexander…..when the personality destroys the team, what good is his production?
FK TO and any 49er bastard…I hope they all burn in hell with gasoline undies on
August 18th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
WAKE UP CORKRAN!
August 18th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Pryor is versatile as fk and that is what AL likes so you never know, I wouldn’t be surprised or disappointed if we took him in the supp. on Mon. we do need a future qb and I don’t see us getting Andrew Luck next year cause we WILL have a winning record, no doubt.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
We don’t need Pryor. He’s just another QB with amazing athletic skills but no brains. I would rather the Raiders draft that kid from Boise State next year.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
I hope we draft TO just so MM34 can unload on him on a crossing route in practice. TO is a queen.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Kellen Moore possibly the next Breeze, I follow BSU and kid has lazer presission with is throws. He’s just not tall and can’t drop the bomb so I doubt we draft him next year but would be worth the shot if he’s available.
August 18th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
If we could get Pryor for one of our lower draft picks.
I think he only lost four games playing for a major college program.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Steve did tweet that DHB had a solid practice yesterday.
Which means, in the world of DHB, he caught 1 pass and excelled in down-field blocking.
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this is so funny!!! But probably true.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:49 am
“*Second-year offensive lineman Bruce Campbell looked pretty good in practice, ”
Haven’t heard that before. Good news, more OLine depth
August 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
546.DutchRaider77 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
If we draft pryor we should use a 5th and we could use him as a water boy and have him beside HUE un the sidelines to wipe his BUTT!!
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