WR Murphy, CB Johnson undergo surgery; Murphy out for opener
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 17th, 2011 at 6:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson just announced that starting wide receiver Louis Murphy and starting cornerback Chris Johnson are undergoing surgery for undisclosed injuries. Murphy won’t be able to play in the regular-season opener Sept. 12, Jackson said. Johnson is expected back for that game.
Murphy has missed most of training camp with a hamstring injury. He said a few days ago that he was running and feeling as if he was close to returning to practice. Something obviously happened along the way to a return, given Jackson’s revelation.
Murphy led all Raiders wide receivers in receptions and yards last season. He tied Jacoby Ford for the most receiving touchdown by a wide receiver.
With Murphy out, the Raiders are in sore need of getting back from injury Chaz Schilens and Jacoby Ford. Jackson said Schilens is “getting close” to returning from the injury he suffered against the Arizona Cardinals last Thursday. Ford’s broken left hand is almost healed.
Rookie DeMarcus Van Dyke has been thrust ino the role of starting cornerback opposite Stanford Routt now that Johnson is out. Jackson said Van Dyke looked much improved in practice Wednesday.
In other news, projected starting center Samson Satele left practice with an undisclosed injury. It appeared to be to one of his legs. A member of the media spotted Satele being hauled off to a nearby hospital for tests.
Jackson said Satele’s injury is a “tweak, a nick,” but it’s “nothing major. Rookie Stefen Wisniewski received the majority of reps at center with Satele gone.
Mitchell has missed most of training camp with an unspecified injury. He played an important role in Oakland’s defense last season as an extra defensive back in certain situations.
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August 17th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Damb! Hope its not too bad
August 17th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Our O line is a major question mark
August 17th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Van Dyke didn’t look anywhere near ready to be a starting CB against Arizona.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Dmoore,DHB and Ford week 1 in denver….wow dont know what to say but murphy u groin pullin bz and chaz u hrt btch….fk you!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Now we gonna have to keep Hagan…..nicki miller fkiin sux
August 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
injuries…injuries…injuries
August 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Aw man, Our O line
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_pre_season
August 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Kell u look almost ready for a body bag old man
August 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Oh szzzt here we go…
August 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Injuries happen. Good teams play through them. We’re about to find out what the Raiders are made of.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
CrazyRaiderRadThe Jedi Monster
RT @buckrebel: @CorkOnTheNFL After watching practice, Jim Miller and Gil Brandt of #SiriusNFL radio were very high on DVD. #Raiders
1 minute ago
August 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
If DHB does start opening night, it will have to be by default. It must be Ford and Moore. Hope they can be ready.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Hue on all the injuries: “It’s the lockout, let’s be real”
5 minutes ago
August 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
DMoore is in prime position to splash onto the scene on MNF.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Satele injury is a blessing in disguise……we need to see Wiz2 vs first string D at center
August 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Asked Hue if Satele had big nick or little nick, and he said little nick
1 minute ago
August 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
At the risk of sounding “negative”, Al Davis hasn’t improved last year’s roster one bit.
It’s all on Hue Jackson.
Hope you’re ready Hue, hope the old man doesn’t treat you like schit.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Well one thing for sure, Al Davis is deep at positions like WR, QB, RB and CBs’ (?) and linemen. So a injury here and there might not be as bad for Oakland as other teams. Still want all out 1 guys ready though. Need to pound Denver into oblivion.
Oakland 41
Denver 10
Code Black Ya’ll!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Satele injury is a blessing in disguise……we need to see Wiz2 vs first string D at center
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Agreed, as long as it isn’t serious enough to keep Satele out of regular season games.
Would also like to see more of Heyer and Loper at LG and Campbell at RG.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Steve clearly has a DHB bias which makes reading his comments so hard yet obvious for what it is.
He tweets time and time that DHB is having solid practices making nice catches then discounts the guy saying he will ‘never’ be able to make the plays that Ford, Murphy, Moore or Shilens will.
FREEZE FRAME: Shilens? Murphy? Is he really serious? For one, what has Shilens done outside of practice???? What? He didn’t look that good vs AZ, just saying. That comeback route was weak. I never said anything about it but it is what it is …it was weak.
Murphy? Seriously? Murphy drops more balls than DHB. No doubt. And to a good extent, it was DHB drawing coverage so Murphy could make the catches he did make. Even HueJack said so.
Now I can see an agrument for Ford & Moore maybe, but Schilens & Murphy ..com’on man.
Secondly, chances of Moore starting opening night or week 3 for that matter are slim. Being the 3rd WR on the other hand is much more realistic.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
17.KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
At the risk of sounding “negative”, Al Davis hasn’t improved last year’s roster one bit.
It’s all on Hue Jackson.
Hope you’re ready Hue, hope the old man doesn’t treat you like schit.
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I think Big Als’ biggest improvement was Hue by far. Enough to vault the Raiders to the next level (the playoffs). I thinks Hue has the balls to handle Big Al without any trouble. A pimp hand on hererra wouldn’t hurt either. Hue is the Man!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
seriously, all the al davis bashers should just shut up. it gets tiring listening to it. the team went 8-8. losing namdi hurts but nobody else lost is a big deal. the team has a reasonable chance of going 10-6.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Murphy? Seriously? Murphy drops more balls than DHB. No doubt. And to a good extent, it was DHB drawing coverage so Murphy could make the catches he did make. Even HueJack said so.
Now I can see an agrument for Ford & Moore maybe, but Schilens & Murphy ..com’on man.
Secondly, chances of Moore starting opening night or week 3 for that matter are slim. Being the 3rd WR on the other hand is much more realistic.
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Murphy drops more balls than DHB? No he doesn’t, look it up.
Why wouldn’t Moore start if he is the best WR out there, or even 2nd best?
Ford has to be out there cause that man has balls the size of canteloupes.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Kell shut da fawk up….roster is leas and bounds better…..no grad no nnamdi no miller no gallery…..no zbs and no cable
August 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Leaps*
August 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
DHB/Moore starting WR opening night.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
ldemarinisldemarinis
@CorkOnTheNFL sounds like Murphy has a sports hernia from your past tweets about his injury.
1 minute ago
August 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
For one, what has Shilens done outside of practice????
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When healthy? He’s made more catches and scored more TDs than DHB has, when DHB has been on the field significantly more.
DHB’s practices so far have been encouraging. Still waiting to see it translate to the field. Maybe with Ford, Moore, and a healthy Chaz (still waiting on that one… personally I’m not at all convinced he’ll be ready for the opener… disappointing…) it’ll open things up for DHB. But at that point it’s up to DHB to make the most of his opportunities.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
24.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Kell shut da fawk up….roster is leas and bounds better…..no grad no nnamdi no miller no gallery…..no zbs and no cable
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correct.. however these mounting injuries are disturbing.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Murphy is light years ahead of dhb….if u say otherwise then you are lost
August 17th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Still waiting on Murphy to take that next step, too. Regressed a little last season. Would like more consistency from him. He can absolutely be a serviceable player. Missing valuable practice time hurts, though.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Injuries happpen HOF…..not worried at all. Attitude has changed with us which is key
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
IMO you don’t start Moore if you dont have to simply because he is green. He can be doing everything right like Murphy (or DHB) was their rookie years. But forced into the ‘real’ game during the ‘real’ season is something else.
If you are a for real person and not living in a fantasy you would fully grasp what I am saying.
That dimwit Tom Cable sold you guys a bill of goods before with DHB and Murphy starting their rookie year, on MNF nonetheless! Sounds familiar. Now they had decent games but really we suffered through their growth all season.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Who’d be more effective playing out of the slot – Ford, DHB or Moore?
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
30.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Murphy is light years ahead of dhb….
””””””””””’
super
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Al Davis has made this team better weather some want to believe it or not.
Hue > Cable
Boss > Zach
Saunders = improvement
Wiz, Woodson, Biek = improvement
D,Moore = great fcking pick by Al when all the other picks passed him up
Nnamdis time was up.
Edwards > Grads
Al done all right!
CODE BLACK YA’LL
August 17th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Injuries to the WR’s is not that big of a deal. It just means we are going to get a heavy dose of McFadden/Bush. I’m alright with that! Build a bully Hue…
August 17th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Yeah murphy gotta take next ste….injury sets not only him but us back….dhb sux
August 17th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
If you are a for real person and not living in a fantasy you would fully grasp what I am saying.
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Gotcha! Keepin it real!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Code Black 2011 is official
August 17th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
JB PROLLY Ford but they gonna havee him outside….lord knows dhb cant play slot!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Man, if your real and not living in a fantasy world, if you want to be hip on what’s right, if you know where it is at, listen to me. Period……..
Moore > DHB
Be real, come on man.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Terp….dhb was awful vs SD in 09….Murphy was cool
August 17th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
That dimwit Tom Cable sold you guys a bill of goods before with DHB and Murphy starting their rookie year, on MNF nonetheless! Sounds familiar. Now they had decent games but really we suffered through their growth all season.
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He tried to sell us Russell too but we got wise to him. Al got wise. Al got real.
Code Black Ya’ll
August 17th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Baucita wants DHB to fail…why man?
August 17th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Right now, DMoore is ahead of all the WR’s we have. Why sit him cuz he’s a rook. I remember whan a rook lit us up on MNF opening day too.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Terp we being real…….moore looks like a nfl wr….dhb never has and never will
August 17th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
For one, what has Shilens done outside of practice????
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When healthy? He’s made more catches and scored more TDs than DHB has, when DHB has been on the field significantly more.
DHB’s practices so far have been encouraging. Still waiting to see it translate to the field. Maybe with Ford, Moore, and a healthy Chaz (still waiting on that one… personally I’m not at all convinced he’ll be ready for the opener… disappointing…) it’ll open things up for DHB. But at that point it’s up to DHB to make the most of his opportunities.
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Maybe you need more evidence. No argument there. But AZ did provide a glimpse of you seeing it during the games.
Targeted 3 times.
1. Had position on a short route for a 1st down (ball batted at the line).
2. Found open spot, hands catch (since you all are so critical), almost broke two tackles to turn up field.
3. Burned the DB on a double move that could have gone for 6pts (ball almost severly underthrown – campbell couldn’t step into it)
Note: On 1 & 2 he drew double coverage.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
DHB had Jam as his QB. ouch!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Note: On 1 & 2 he drew double coverage.
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Just in case ya’ll didn’t notice
August 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
33.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
IMO you don’t start Moore if you dont have to simply because he is green. He can be doing everything right like Murphy (or DHB) was their rookie years. But forced into the ‘real’ game during the ‘real’ season is something else.
If you are a for real person and not living in a fantasy you would fully grasp what I am saying.
That dimwit Tom Cable sold you guys a bill of goods before with DHB and Murphy starting their rookie year, on MNF nonetheless! Sounds familiar. Now they had decent games but really we suffered through their growth all season.
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And just how did you not get caught up in that under handed scam by Cable Tj? One step ahead of the rest I guess.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Baucito….not with an A…….sorry Bo but trying to use my rip on u as some ammo on me dont work.. U know Im too smart for that lol…..dmac has shown he can play….has dhb?
August 17th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
If DHB can draw double and triple coverage, I say put him in.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Sorry, that on 2 & 3 he drew the safety – double coverage that so many ppl claim never happens
August 17th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
If DHB makes a big leap in 2011, it could mean playoffs for this team. Personally, I’d be satisfied with even James Jett-type statistics. 600-700 yards and 4 TDs would help the passing game quite a bit, especially with Moore looking like the real deal and Ford being able to make plays in a number of different ways. A healthy Chaz would be the icing on the cake, but I’m not going to hold my breath. Pulling for Chaz because he has all the tools in the world – size, speed, good hands, solid routes…. but if he can’t be healthy for more than a game at a time maybe the Raiders would be better served by keeping a guy like Hagan or even Bodiford on the roster.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Moore will be able to handle the challenge of starting at WR with ease. He’ll be a natural. Only problem will be the scholarship player may have to start. Lets hope not.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Whats up with Taiwan Jones? All he had was a hamstring injury right?
August 17th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
He sux terp….until he mmakes a big difference in a win for us he aint schit
August 17th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
last years raiders had namdi, who is great but overated. gallery hurt alot and miller overpriced. i like additions on oline better than loss. i like boss better than miller. i think were in trouble in d backs and big plays especially if we dont stop big penalties at exactly the wrong time.
Raiders biggest problems are blown coverages and big penalties on 3rd down.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
U can have no coverage on dhb and he still would suck
August 17th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Raider ON!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Did you order the CODE BLACK? DID YOU ORDER THE CODE BLACK?!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Man, thank god we have more depth this year. I’m actually not as worried having Chaz and Murphy out as I would be in the past. I think DHB is much improved (still probably our 4th or 5th best receiver if they were all fully healthy), but still is a heck of a lot more consistent than in the past.
But, with Ford and Moore and DHB we still have a 3 deep that aren’t bad and can keep the ball moving and always a threat to break away.
What I’m most worried about are the secondary injuries as I feel our depth there drops off dramatically.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
I’m trying to stay optimistic here but fk…How many starters are injured now? Not good with the season opener about a month away.
DVD starting? Oh shizzzzzzzzzz. Hope he can grow some.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Mike…..nnamdi was good not great….but ur post resonates well
August 17th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Moore can contribute right away. Especially if Murphy and Schilens aren’t ready to play against Denver, it would be a damned shame if Moore isn’t in the starting lineup with either Ford or DHB.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Plunk…..u goddamn right I did!
August 17th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
I’m telling myself the Packers won the Super Bowl last year with third stringers
August 17th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
DHB will start, period. Otherwise Al Davis looks stupid.
Drafting #7 ahead of all the other better WR’s, trying to look genius.
Or he gets some mysterious injury…….maybe showing Hue’s authority.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Have a feeling that, no matter what, DHB will be a starter against Denver. Hopefully he sees extensive time in these next couple preseason games. He’s apparently putting some good practices together. Time to make it happen on the field.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Niners sign Josh McCowan at QB. They really are up schit creek. We are fortunate to have the 3 we do. I see Edwards in the #2 Backup QB position
August 17th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
DHB starting on opening night is the lock among locks.
August 17th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Injuries are very disturbing though. Way too many. Something ain’t right.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Yeah, we’re really thin in the Secondary and in the LBs. Steep drop.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
I have a $100 bet with some dude at work that the Raiders will have a better record than the 9 ehrrs. I feel real good about that one.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Injuries are a part of the game. Lots of teams have lots of injured players. Many of them came in out of shape due to the lockout. Hue has been running a way more physical camp than previous coaches.
Again, the best teams learn how to play through injuries. They’re a part of the game. If this Raiders team is really ready to take the next step, they’ll adapt. If they’re not, they won’t. Simple as that.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
The only injuries thus far that will really hurt the Raiders if they carry over into the regular season are Satele and CJ. Satele because he’s the only veteran C on the roster, and CJ because there is very little experience behind him.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
After the Gold Rush Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Well one thing for sure, Al Davis is deep at positions like WR, QB, RB and CBs’ (?) and linemen. So a injury here and there might not be as bad for Oakland as other teams. Still want all out 1 guys ready though. Need to pound Denver into oblivion.
Oakland 41
Denver 10
Code Black Ya’ll!
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You’re an effin looney. Don’t choke on that kool-ade.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
I’ll already take Moore over any receiver not named Ford on the current roster. The Chaz has never contributed to this team so his absence is not a big deal. Murphy drops too many balls anyway so far in his career so other than depth, this isn’t concerning. DHB does look vastly improved in his route running so he should get open finally and Hagan is a decent 4th option if we PUP murphy to start the season. Our passing attack will be solely predicated on play action so as long as Bush and DMC are ready by week 1, we’re o.k. The running game will open our medium and deep passing attack, and the Boss man is really going help our run game because miller couldn’t block to save his life. While I’m on the subject of blocking, Satele played great last year and Gallery was so overrated – glad to see him go. We need Wiz 2.0 to man the left guard spot and hope satele will be back soon. Only ? is ROT – we need Barksdale or Heyer to step up because barnes is God awful.
Biggest concern is the secondary – I want to believe Al will let Breshnehan run blitz and zone schemes to mask our horrible corner situation, but history tells me it ain’t gonna happen (although I recall Chuck B using his famous “picket fence D” on 3rd downs to prevent giving up what seems like the opponents 70% conversion rate on 3rd and longs). If we run our same vanilla single high safety man to man D, Routt, Johnson, and DVD are going get torched by 3 receiver sets all season long. If we mix in zone and blitz packages as advertised, we might actually have a good defense…week 1 will tell, Coach Davis lets his D coordinators play during training camp and the preseason, but the regular season belongs to AD Football, Inc.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Jackson’s practices are too rough. I wouldn’t let anyone lay a hand on our top skilled players in practice. That’s what camp fodder are for.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
From our erstwhile blog guru, Jerry Mac, today:
“All five receivers taken in the first round after Heyward-Bey — the 49ers’ Michael Crabtree, Philadelphia’s Jeremy Maclin, Minnesota’s Percy Harvin, the New York Giants’ Hakeem Nicks and Tennessee’s Kenny Britt — have substantially better numbers as do a number of other players chosen in later rounds that year.”
and…
“The last two seasons, the Raiders have gotten more production out of fourth-round picks — Murphy in 2009 and Ford in 2010. This year’s camp star is Denarius Moore, a fifth-round draft pick.”
and…
“According to FootballOutsiders.com, which charts every pass play to every receiver, Heyward-Bey had a 41 percent “catch rate” in 2011 — meaning 59 percent of passes thrown to him were not caught. It was the lowest figure in the NFL for receivers who were targeted 50 times.”
Here’s my question. Did that $23.5 mil in guaranteed money come right out of the Old Creeper’s pocket? And, if so, after the JMR debacle do you think his family resents it? Just wondering.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
correction…Chuck B called it his “sticks” defense where the entire back 7 lined up at the 1st down marker across the field…he also used flash cards with colors on them so our retard players knew what to do…that’s what happens when your play book is comprised of one.damn.play.:)
August 17th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a million times: goddamn Al Davis.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Kirk Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Jackson’s practices are too rough. I wouldn’t let anyone lay a hand on our top skilled players in practice. That’s what camp fodder are for.
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Then prepare to have soft-ass players.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
DHB in practice is like what we call batting cage hitters who hit about .850 in the cages and stay under the Mendoza line in the game.
OhioRaider = MR
August 17th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
I wouldn’t worry too much about these early preseason injuries, they still have lots of time to heal. The team gets to adapt and plug in players where needed. They’ll get to see what they got in certain players, evaluate, and then decide whether to sign someone else.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
DMac, Jones, Satele, Murphy, Ford, Chaz, Chris Johnson, Mitchell, Eugene,…
Sheesh!
August 17th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Al Davis is the Managing General Partner of the Oakland Raiders, CEO of A.D. Football, Inc. and is in the HOF, just in case you didn’t know that OhioRaider.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Now we gonna have to keep Hagan…..nicki miller fkiin sux
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Now who is the racist? We all know you hate Miller because he is white. Your a pathetic hypocrite.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
84.YoungAmerican Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Kirk Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Jackson’s practices are too rough. I wouldn’t let anyone lay a hand on our top skilled players in practice. That’s what camp fodder are for.
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Then prepare to have soft-ass players.
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That’s better than having no players at all!
August 17th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Yes, injuries are part of the game, but you’d better have depth. I don’t think the Raiders do.
They really haven’t done anything with the Roster from last year, except lose Pro-Bowlers.
It’s all on Hue.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
We have lost three wide receivers, three defensive backs, and two running backs.
This goes back to something I believe. Let the big ugglies hit each other in practice, and leave the skill players alone.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Bzauce hatin on DHB… lmrao
Remember now, until last season DMAC had plenty of reasons to make a Raider worry. Fumbles (stop askin about LOST, he was lucky) trippin, stumblin, weak finish, and nagging leg injuries.
And now, Q busted his face in with his own helmet.
Seriously, if I were a Raider scout I would be askin if my guy had mama’s milk for a minimum 3 mos. because brittle bones cost the team.
Know science. Love science.
MO SHIZZLE CUT CONDIZZLE.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Murphy and Schilenz are out BooHoo….DHB was going to start the season as #1, Ford was going to be #2 and Murphy/Shilenz were their backups. With them both injured it only gives the “opportunity for more of D. Moore at the slot and more 2 TE sets with Boss and Ausberry.
BLESSING IN DISGUISE
August 17th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
It’s all on Hue.
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Agreed, particularly because Hue has to oversee the development of a lot of rookies and 2nd or 3rd year guys who are expected to be key contributors. McClain, Houston, Shaughnessy, Ford, Veldheer, Moore, Wisniewski, Barksdale, Van Dyke… if these guys step up the Raiders are in good shape. If they regress, the Raiders will be in trouble for 2011.
Depth is an issue, for sure. One of the many reason I’m predicting no better than 9-7 this season. Most likely 8-8. 10-6 or better would be overachieving. The Raiders are just not going to be able to compete with the best teams in the AFC quite yet.
The keys will be A.) the development of the O-line, particularly Veldheer, B) the play of Jason Campbell, C) better consistency from the secondary, and D) being able to cut down on the big plays, particularly in the running game.
Next season’s draft and FA period will be essential to taking this team to the next level. Will it be time to find a QB who can be “the guy”? Will the Raiders be able to find a big-time DT who can step up when Seymour and Kelly start to decline? Will the Raiders need to find a big-time playmaker at CB, or will the young guys develop quickly enough that it won’t be an issue? Is Goethel the answer at WLB? Depending on how this season shakes out, there could be a lot more questions that still need answering.
This Raiders team has great young talent, but they still have a ways to go if they want to be serious contenders in the playoffs – especially against teams like the Pats, Ravens, and Steelers.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
#94
August 17th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
RAIDERS!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Bey will be fine. Its crazy how much ppl in here hate they guy. The way I look at it is if he doesn’t become what his physical talents leads on – all the better for the Raiders. One step closer to the SB. A major step at that. So I encourge the young fella to keep doing his think. Work hard. Get better.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
JB Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Who’d be more effective playing out of the slot – Ford, DHB or Moore?
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Ford.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Plenty of ppl are getting shut up this year. First DHB shut ppl up (temporarily with his brief performance vs AZ). Now BCamp is starting to shut doubters up.
Last year it was DMC.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
“That’s better than having no players at all!”
No its not!
August 17th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
get it straight guys–it’s not really a question. dhb is a starter. it may come from al davis but that’s not the point. he is seen as a guy with big upside. all of the guys who were drafted ahead of him are ok but not stars. we all knew he would take time. this is the year to find out. he can blaze. he has good size. if he emerges as a quality receiver, he will be a star. a t.o. type matchup nightmare. larry fitzgerald. i think we have to see if he can be that guy because if he can, then the raiders will be great again. in many ways, he is the biggest key to the raiders.
moore does look legit, but he is a rookie. he will not start, period. dhb and ford are the starters. chaz may or may not ever contribute. murphy seems to be locked in as a 4th or 5th guy at this point, even though he has done more than any of them. they all have big potential. that’s what’s exciting as a raider fan.
campbell has steadily improved every year. i’m not sure he will ever be great, but he could be solidly good. he could be a top 10-15 qb this year. if he is, and if the wr’s are who they can be, then the raiders offense could be very, very good.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
So did anyone watch sports nation today on espn. Jj adande was asked if DHB was a bust and he said laughing “yes, he was a bust the moment he was drafted”
August 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Kirk,and others,this is a friggin contact sport,you cant have players playin SOFT in practice and then get NAILED in reg season games,Hue is right,IMO!Limited time cuz of the lockout,all teams deal with it!Free Raider O Raiders!!!!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
the biggest question is the cb’s. namdi was great. don’t pretend he wasn’t. we’ll miss him. but the raiders couldn’t pay a 30-yr-old cb that type of money. they’re not a player or two away from the super bowl. they are an up-and-coming team that needs to let their young players breakout. routt and cj will be ok, if healthy. they will give up some plays but the pass rush will be very good. the safeties will be good.
it’s the backups that are a concern. ware and mcfadden don’t look any better than they were last year. dvd looks very talented, but being a rookie, he will make mistakes, and when cb’s make mistakes, it’s touchdowns. chekwa? we don’t know yet obviously. it is scary when so many raiders fans are hoping a UDFA like sterling moore is the answer.
but we are talking about who will be the nickel back. if that’s our biggest concern, we’re in pretty good shape.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Sorry, Hendu, I disagree.
We don’t need DMac being hit by linebackers in practice. Let the Linebackers practice on camp fodder.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Plenty of ppl are getting shut up this year. First DHB shut ppl up (temporarily with his brief performance vs AZ). Now BCamp is starting to shut doubters up.
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The Raider organization, and the Al Davis sycophants, are more worried about what people say, than what goes on, on the field.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Now we gonna have to keep Hagan…..nicki miller fkiin sux
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no bruh bodiford makes the roster now
August 17th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
jj adande? gimme a break. that’s the type of comment that makes those guys so stupid. he was a bust the moment he was drafted? then some stupid snicker. what kind of real football mind could ay that? that’s the point. so many idiots like michael irvin said he was a monumental reach. so dumb. EVERYONE said predarft that he was a climber. that he was a sleeper and had gotten into the bottom of the first round, based on his workouts. so, let me get this straight. if a team had taken him at 22, they would have been talking about how he was a potential steal. but when the raiders took him, at a time when every moron in the media was taking shots at them, suddenly he was horrible. they made it sound like he shouldn’t be drafted at all. ridiculous. he was a physically gifted guy who needed to work on his game. it’s his 3rd year. he played russell, who was horrible b/c of a drug addiction. he made strides last year. he may bust out this year. then what is jj adande gonna say? will he talk about how wrong he was?
August 17th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
After the Gold Rush Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
DHB in practice is like what we call batting cage hitters who hit about .850 in the cages and stay under the Mendoza line in the game.
OhioRaider = MR
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You effin wish I was only MR. I’m ten times the avenging critic MR ever was. Since 2007, only one Ohioraider on this blog. And I watched the 1984 AFC Championship game in person. What do you wanna say about that?
August 17th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Kirk,so how does that help out lbs,going against camp fodder?Guess we disagree,that said,free Raider O! raiders!!!!!!
August 17th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
if any of you know anything about football, then you know that a player can take time to develop. and players with that type of size and speed can be dominating if they emerge. it’s a crapshoot but al davis rolls the dice with guys who are physical specimens just in case they make it. obviously, there are late round picks who play better than anyone thought. is everyone stupid b/c they didn’t know?
August 17th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Dude, they’re stupid when they draft these projects too high and pay them more than they’re worth. More than stupid even, it makes them imbeciles.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
I need a worthy foil. Where’s Father Pride & Poise tonight?
August 17th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
if any of you know anything about football, then you know that a player can take time to develop. and players with that type of size and speed can be dominating if they emerge. it’s a crapshoot but al davis rolls the dice with guys who are physical specimens just in case they make it. obviously, there are late round picks who play better than anyone thought. is everyone stupid b/c they didn’t know?
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no it’s just that DHB has shown zero potential as of yet
August 17th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
DHB is a roster spot an cap hog. I’ll say this until he proves me different
August 17th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
113.ohioraider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Dude, they’re stupid when they draft these projects too high and pay them more than they’re worth. More than stupid even, it makes them imbeciles.
114.ohioraider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
I need a worthy foil. Where’s Father Pride & Poise tonight?
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Translation: I am a troll
August 17th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I have been assigned by a secret cabal of long time Raider fans to defeat gullibility wherever I find it, that’s all. My duty brings me here.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Al Davis covets speed. We all know this. But there are good football players who who possess speed an talent. We could have drafted maclin he’s fast an can catch an run routes properly
August 17th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Nohio = MR?
Reminds me of the classic blonde joke. She calls 911, my house is on fire!, how do we get there ma’am?, Duh! the big red truck!
Nohio = MR
Sullivan = MR
Raider = MR
Big Red Truck.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
118.ohioraider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I have been assigned by a secret cabal of long time Raider fans to defeat gullibility wherever I find it, that’s all. My duty brings me here.
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Translation: As MR, I cannot cop to the NancyBoy handle on World of Warcraft but with this name I can.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
With the lockout, injuries and youth, I dont expect to see this squad at their full potential until after the midseason bye week. If Raiders can go 4-3 until then, great! 3-4 a’ight but no less
Satele to hospital?!?! Young OL better be ready for the Monday Night lights.
Murph out game 1. Chaz & V12 down for preseason.
DHB has a great opportunity to get some reps, make some plays & build some confidence. Forget the past and wishful thinking. Raiders need him to make plays period. Especially if V12 & D-Wow return kicks and punts. Can T. Jones be a return man?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
118.ohioraider Says:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I have been assigned by a secret cabal of long time Raider fans to defeat gullibility wherever I find it, that’s all. My duty brings me here.
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Translation: As MR, I cannot cop to the NancyBoy handle on World of Warcraft but with this name I can.
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Kiss my ass you prick. Go work on your literacy before you take me on.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Everybody in the world who criticizes Al Davis, Cannot Be MR. That’s impossible, ok?
The Raiders had 22,000 season ticket holders last year. Looks like fewer this year.
Can the other 50,000 people all be MR?
I know it feels good to ya, but everything that feels good aint sex, ok?
August 17th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
how will cj look when he comes back from surgery? DVD or even Huff as starting corner =disaster! DVD aint tacklin anybody
August 17th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Literacy? Trolling makes you literate MR? Remember your “whether” and “rather” confusion? The rest of us do. Intellectual posing is not your forte (look it up).
In closing clown, you are TOO obvious. It is sad that you even try to hide any more.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
May I say, in conclusion tonight gentlemen, I truly hope I’m wrong about my assessment of this team, with it’s unproven offensive line, shaky secondary, and not-ready-for-primetime receivers. I wish DHB a season with 50 catches and 7 TDs, in which scenario I will gladly eat my words on this blog. But I look at this team, put together by a stubborn old has-been, and it reeks of 7-9. So you ask yourself if that’s enough to maintain your unbending loyalty to the myth of Al Davis.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
You wrong. I’m the same Ohioraider since 2007. I live in Cleveland. A Raider fan since 1970. Nice try though.
August 17th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Ohioraider = Leatherman
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August 18th, 2011 at 10:56 am
WoW this is amazing about half of u guys are sold on Moore. Now dont get me wrong I’m sure he will turn out to be a good player but u guys are sol for 3 catches an 37 yards. Come on guys let’s not losse our heads and say he is already better than DHB. With out a doubt DHB is better so far on the field but it’s going to be a good fight for that #1 WR spot. If DHB losses than hey it was done on the field with the lights on. Not the practice field
August 18th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
OAKLAND IS USE TO THE RAIDERS SUCKING SO ALL THIS FOOLISH RAMBLING BY YOU GUYS IS POINTLESS!!!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Three back set. McFadden TB, Bush left WB and Taiwan Jones right WB. They can all catch, run and somewhat block. Run crossbucks and floods that look like a run and Campbell will have a field day. By the time defenses figure it out they are running 5 receiver sets and moving the ball with Murphy, Ford, Shilenz, DHB and Reece motioned into position. BANG, BANG, BANG, who can score more?!!!
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