Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, August 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders managing general partner Al Davis wasn’t thrilled with former coach Tom Cable for keeping rookie offensive lineman Bruce Campbell on the bench all last season. Davis wants to see Campbell on the field, in games. Coach Hue Jackson said Thursday that that’s a distinct possibility.
“Obviously, year two into the process of Bruce Campbell, there’s something great there,” Jackson said. “What he needs to do is go play now. He’s practiced, he’s getting healthier, he feels good about where he is now. He just needs to go in a game and perform and that’s what we’re looking for.”
Campbell missed the first two weeks of practice while recovering from a right knee injury that he suffered in an offseason workout. Now that he’s back, he is itching to play in an exhibition game.
That chance might come as soon as Saturday, whenthe Raiders play the 49ers at Candlestick Park.
“Yeah, I’m just trying to wait for the day so I can just let loose that day,” Campbell said. ”I missed two weeks of camp. Just ready to get back into the flow.”
Campbell has been eased back into the swing of things. He is getting more and more reps as his knee improves. Jackson still hasn’t settled upon his starting five offensive linemen.
Despite missing so much practice time, Jackson said Campbell is in the mix for a starting spot.
“No question. Oh, yeah, he is. Again, it’s about performance. He’s got to go out now and perform. Everybody’s going to earn what they get here.”
Jackson said as much to Campbell at some point before Wednesday. That boost of confidence should help erase some of the bad memories Campbell had from his dealings with Cable.
“Yeah, it actually was nice to hear,” Campbell said, ”because missing weeks in the NFL is like missing an opportunity. So, it was good to hear he felt that way. I really did enjoy it. I liked it.”
For the record, the starting linemen Thursday, from left to right: Jared Veldheer, Daniel Loper, Stefen Wisniewski, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes.
*Center Samson Satele spent the better part of practice riding a stationary bike and running on a treadmill. In other words, he looked a lot better than he did 24 hours earlier, when he left practice with a hurt left leg.
He feels so much better that he intends to play against the 49ers, he said.
“We play a game on Saturday night, I’m playing,” Satele said. He said he’ll even be at practice Friday morning.
Jackson used the opportunity to chide reporters for pointing out his overly optimistic projections for injured wide receiver Louis Murphy and cornerback Chris Johnson, among others, in recent days.
“Come on, I told you guys he was fine,” Jackson said. “Again, I get to exercise the right to keep these guys out. You guys see him walking around. He’s going to be fine.”
*At some point, Jackson is going to have to settle upon an offensive line. He insists that he isn’t bound by any hard-and-fast deadline.
When the dust settled, Jackson promises an offensive line that will be “formidable.”
“What’s going to happen is, as we continue to move forward, again, once I get all these guys back out here, which I will pretty soon, then we’ll be able to make a determination on who those five guys should be. It’s a tough race.”
*Rookie cornerback Chimdi Chekwa missed Oakland’s first exhibition game with a sore left shoulder. Jackson said Chekwa will make his NFL debut against the 49ers.
“He’s definitely going to be up and going to have an opportunity to play,” Jackson said. “He’s another young player, a young talent that we have on this team that I’m looking forward to watching play in a performance-type situation against an opponent.”
*Rookie running back Taiwan Jones, like Chekwa, has missed significant practice time in training camp. Jones suffered a hamstring injury in a one-on-one drill agaisnt middle linebacker Rolando McClain.
Jones said he feels as if he is 100 percent. When he makes his NFL debut is up to the training staff.
“I actually have been surprised how long I was out,” Jones said. “Like I said, I never had a hamstring injury. so they’re just being extra cautious. But, for the most part, it’s nothing serious. As soon as the Raiders say I’m ready, I’m ready.”
Jackson is eager to see what Jones can do in a game. He got a brief glimpse of Jones’ outstanding speed and explosiveness early in camp. He wants another taste, and soon.
“Oh, you better believe I am,” Jackson said, when asked if he intends to see Jones in an exhibition game. “I sure am going to see him. I’m going to see him pretty soon. The guy is working hard. He’s very close to being back out here and when he’s out here, we’re going to turn him loose.”
Jones worked on some agility drills off to the side Thursday, and he looked as if he was moving around without any limitations.
*Coaches are adept at pushing buttons and knowing when to push them. Jackson no doubt used a question about the rapid progress of veteran wide receiver Derek Hagan in picking up the offense so soon and making a strong push to make the 53-man roster to send a message to the younger players.
“He understands that instead of going in and playing X-Box at night time and trying to figure out what man can score a touchdown on that video game, he goes in, he takes his book, opens it and works on it,” Jackson said. “That’s a tribute to him.”
You can bet Jackson is counting upon the media to run that line so that the other players will see it and get the not-so-subtle message.
Hagan had another impressive day of practice Thursday, catching out routes, slants, whatever came his way. He is making it difficult for the Raiders to overlook.
Sure enough, Hagan said, without prompting, that his film study plays a vital part in his success.
“That’s just studying film and knowing how to run routes,” Hagan said. “I have known how to run routes since college. Most routes are a timing thing, and sometimes coach will let me know if I am too short or too deep. I just try and come back the next play and improve.”
Hagan said he is confident in his chances of making the opening-day roster.
“I feel great,” Hagan said. “I didn’t come in just to be here. I came here to help this team win, it doesn’t matter if I am starting or the third receiver or fourth receiver.”
*Jackson was asked about the Raiders potential interest in Ohio State quarterback in the Supplemental Draft on Monday. He refused to take the bait or tip his hand.
“I know he plays quarterback,” Jackson said, obviously in no mood to touch the subject. “I haven’t done much (research). I’m going to coach this team. I’m not worried about him. I have a quarterback. I have two very good backup quarterbacks. Who says he might be on our team. That’s what you said.”
When pressed, Jackson said:
”Ahhhh. Ahhhh. The supplemental draft is when, men?” Jackson asked. ”Monday. I can’t speak to that. I’m worried about the 49ers right now.”
*Don’t tell Jackson that Saturday’s game is just another exhibition game against a faceless, nameless opponent. He’s all-in when it comes to the so-called Battle of the Bay.
“Oakland vs. San Francisco,” Jackson said. “Toll road, have to pay. You don’t have to pay when you come on the other side. That’s the way I look at it. It’s the 49ers vs. the Oakland Raiders. We’re going there with a purpose, just like any game we play. We go to win.”
*Johnson, Murphy and backup safety Hiram Eugene were spotted walking around the hotel and practice facility Thursday. Johnson spent most of the practice mingling with the players and keeping tabs on what was happening.
Johnson and Murphy underwent surgery within the past few days, both for undisclosed injuries. Murphy said he has been bothered by a sore hamstring and groin.
*Veteran safety Matt Giordano gets credit for the play of the day for his interception of a Jason Campbell pass intended for tight end Kevin Boss.
Giordano read the play well, broke on the ball and jumped in front of Boss to take away the ball.
*Receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey was at practice, but he didn’t do much outside of position and individual drills. He has looked impressive in practice since he returned from an offseason injury.
*Sixteen players missed practice Thursday. Jackson said the Raiders are fortunate, though, because very few of the injuries are serious enough to cause players to miss much time.
“I know everybody’s talking about where we are,” Jackson said. “I want (everyone) to know, I’m extremely happy where our football team is at this point in time. … If you look around the league, everybody’s having similar issues. The difference is, obviously, ours have been with some of our top-line players. That’s going to happen. And I’d rather it happen now than happen later.”
*Jackson reiterated that he is in constant communication with Davis and that they are on the same page in terms of what they want from this year’s team.
“(The conversations) are great,” Jackson said. “They’re daily, they’re constant, they’re unbelievable. I love talking to coach (Davis). We keep talking about this team. His whole focus and my whole focus is, how do we continue to get this team better? We know we need to get this team healthy. But we know we want to get this team better, too.”
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August 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Looks like Bruce is going to start
August 18th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Still think he should play a lil FB. Who’s depth behind Reece? Tonga?!
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August 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Al Davis will win two more Super Bowls before he retires!
Code Black 2011
August 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Goodnight y’all. hugs and kisses
August 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Nnamdi who?
August 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Morilla Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Nnamdi who?
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I will miss Nnamdi’s good looks.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Damn right you don’t know who Nnamdi is. That’s because Rothlisberger threw away from him.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Damn right you don’t know who Nnamdi is. That’s because Rothlisberger threw away from him.
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It really doesn’t seem to matter much.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
The Eagles are going to s%ck.
August 18th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
*Receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey was at practice, but he didn’t do much outside of position and individual drills. He has looked impressive in practice since he returned from an offseason injury.
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Damn, now I can rest assured the Raiders will be one helluva team and a lot better. CATCH THE DAMN BALL IN A GAME!
August 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Wassup fellow dweebs. I am so positive I contracted a itch a few weeks ago from one of my sweedish bikini babes. You couls tell she was a world traveler, if you get what I mean.
Any, I got this itch and it went from a dew drop size now to a growth the size of a golf ball right at my johnson, you know it.
Well my partie bros are ready to see if they can ‘rub’ a little magic on it while we celebrate a boys night out on the party boat, it you know what I mean.
Damn, I hope my johnson dont fall off man this thing startin to hurt.
I’LL KEEP BEAT AND EAT MEAT IF YOU CAN WIZZLE ON DAT
EAT DRINK AND BEAT THE MEAT IF YOU CAN DIZZLE DAT
August 18th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Reprint:
Deep within the bowels of the Legion of Doom (Oakland Raiders Headquarters – Alameda, CA), the Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black prepares for the looming gridiron battle with his nemesis west of the Great Bay and summons his trusty lap dog…
AL (into intercom): Herrera!!
John Herrera pushes through a small door in the wall, barely tall enough for a toddler to walk under, and scurries up to the Supreme Commander’s desk — which is no smaller than Napoleon’s Tomb and twice as old. It’s coated with dust and littered with empty KFC bags, novelties of yesteryear (such as a Rolodex and a rotary telephone), and a Raiders coffee mug with “Oakland” crossed off in faded ink, “Los Angeles,” handwritten, crossed off in a slightly darker shade, “Oakland,” also handwritten, crossed off in fresh black, with “????” scribbled below that.
Herrera (Saluting): Yes, Sir!
AL: Jawn, Ah’ve told you a million times, get the Pampers… Huggies chafe (shifts in his seat).
Herrera: You have, Mr. Davis and I apologize for being the complete fool that I am. Your sheer football slash business genius only serves to shame me further.
AL: Quit being a kiss-a$$, you know I can’t stand that.
Herrera begins to say something, but thinks better of it and stays tight lipped.
AL (cont’d): And you were wrong about Heywuhd-Bey, he’s been awful his first two years.
Herrera: Sir, I-I, b-but, everyone in the building said it was a reach—
AL: Don’t interrupt me, stupid!
Herrera: Yes, Sir, Mr. Davis! Uh, I mean no Sir!
AL: Jeezuhs, this cole slaw is running right through me (**FART**)
Herrera (under his breath): Good God.
Al: Heh?!
Herrera: You’re God.
Al: Tell that to ol’ Pete Rozelle.
Al points a bony finger at a picture of the former commissioner on the wall — with a mustache and fangs drawn on — currently being used as a dartboard.
Al: Pr;ck.. And don’t you forget it, either, you (now pointing at Herrera) – long as I keep signing the checks. You know I spare no expense here, Jawn.
Al takes a big carnivore bite from a KFC drumstick.
Herrera: No Sir! Uh, yes Sir!
Al chucks the half-eaten drumstick at Herrera, which hits him square in the face.
Herrera: Ow!
Al: Get the he11 outta here, you schmu¢k.
Herrera backs his way to his little door, graveling and makes his exit.
Al picks up the phone receiver.
AL: Operator! (pause) Oh, yeah.
Al flips through his Rolodex, finds the number, and then turns back to his rotary phone and cranks out the number with great effort.
AL: Damn new-fangled technology.
HUE: Hello?
AL: Hue, I need to see you right away, when can you be here?
HUE: Actually just walked in the building, I’ll be up there in a minute, Mr. Davis.
After a minute, the main door opens and in swaggers Hue Jackson, newly-anointed head coach of the Silver and Black.
HUE: Hey, Mr. Davis, how you doin’?
AL: Have a seat, Hue, we gotta talk.
HUE: Oh? OK, then – what about?
AL: This forty time is unacceptable. Nobody works for me is gonna run like this. (Into intercom) Herrera!
Herrera drops from a trap door in the ceiling, dressed in a black jumpsuit and holding a silver coffee pitcher, suspended on a wire (a la Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible). He stops just above Al’s desk and refills his coffee mug.
Once the coffee’s refreshed, Herrera unhooks himself and stands rigid at Al’s side looking down at Hue with disgust.
Hue is speechless, staring at the two of them with his mouth open and eyes wide.
AL: I am partial to theater. Jawn! — (snaps fingers) report.
Herrera (handing a clipboard to Al): Sir.
Al flips through some pages and then looks up disapprovingly at Hue.
HUE (regaining composure now): Well, just lemme know who it is and I’ll go kick some butt, Mr. Davis.
AL: You.
HUE: Come again?
AL: Herrera here clocked you yesterday on the field when you were running with the DBs. Five-eight?
HUE: Mr. Davis, I was jogging along while they were – I didn’t even see John out there yesterday.
Herrera: I have my ways, little man.
HUE: I KNEW I saw that bush had moved spots! Rod said I was paranoid. Herrera, you’re such a little snitch, man.
Herrera sticks his tongue out at Hue.
AL: Herrera’s got himself under five flat, Hue.
HUE: You mean to tell me you’re scouting your coaching staff and front office people?! What about Cable?
AL: Tim could do 25 reps on the bench.
HUE: This is ridiculous. I mean, you hear stories, but godDANG, this is crazy. I don’t need this. I have a hard enough time with a family, trying to get camp organized, telling customer service people I’m not the guy who played Wolverine—
Herrera (giddy): Or the hero from Kate and Leopold!
Both Al and Hue slowly turn to Herrera with an eyebrow raised. Herrera looks at the floor in shame.
HUE: Amy Trask?
AL: Amy’s our best athlete. She hit 4.5 the other day in HEELS. She’s also got a 28 inch vertical.
Herrera (wolfish): And she’s not bad on the pole drill, either, heh heh heh.
AL: I’m not aware of that one, is that some sort of new drill?
A young assistant barges in with an urgent look on his face.
ASSITANT: Stan from accounting just tore his ACL in an Oklahoma!! He’s in the copy room, it’s a bloody fukkin’ mess!
The End.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Veldheer, Wiz 2.0, Satele, Bcampbell & Barksdale. Could be the makings of a substantial unit of BIG UGLIES. While it seems that much of our focus is on the passing game, I hope they don’t use the run as a fallback approach. I think I’d rather see the run first blended with a play action long ball passing game. A successful “beat the crap out of them” running game can demoralize an opponent by half time. The second half of that type of game will allow you to do just about anything you want offensively. That would be the real “Bully” type approach IMO.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Captin Kirk > T. Goethel
Mr. Morrison > Moss
Kirk Morrison > Groves
So what’s the hold up?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Raiders managing general partner Al Davis wasn’t thrilled with former coach Tom Cable for keeping rookie offensive lineman Bruce Campbell on the bench all last season. Davis wants to see Campbell on the field, in games. Coach Hue Jackson said Thursday that that’s a distinct possibility.
“Obviously, year two into the process of Bruce Campbell, there’s something great there,” Jackson said. “What he needs to do is go play now. He’s practiced, he’s getting healthier, he feels good about where he is now. He just needs to go in a game and perform and that’s what we’re looking for.”
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Notice how Hue careful not to throw his budy Cable under the bus. That is a first class act. Wish the best for Hue and hope his Raiders can take it to SF in a domineering fashion.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
A few short years ago Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison were two of the best up and coming LB’s in the NFL. What happened?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Damn, dweebs. While my partey boys were rubbin one out for me, somethin popped and I think I blew a nut. Too much jerkin and now I’m hurtin, if you catch my drift.
The PartyBro CockTail9000 is broken and so is my johnson. All I got now is a couple of lonely men who’ll do anything I ask.
OhNo, my johnson is on the floor. Quick, get me the super glue. Somebody put in on ice. I’m lost without my johnson. Oh that sweedish man, I meant babe, really put the skank on my johnson.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
A few short years ago Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison were two of the best up and coming LB’s in the NFL. What happened?
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They jointly made an inordinate number of INT’s (for LB’s) which was unusual, even for the NFL. Then it was discovered that they weren’t worth a schit against the run. Capt. Kirk was a great tackler, often leading the defense. The only problem was that it was usually 25 yards down-field. It became obvious that Capt. Kirk really wasn’t suited to be a MLB in the NFL. Thomas Howard’s claim to fame is yet to be registered. We’ll see how he does with another team. To be continued…
August 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
So does Tom Cable get a game suspension for pimp slapping an Al lackey?
August 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
A few short years ago Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison were two of the best up and coming LB’s in the NFL. What happened?
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At least Howard is employed now. What about Fargas, Schweigert, Andrew Walter, Jami Russell, Morrison, and a bunch of other x-Raiders players who’re forced to retire at prime time of their career as soon as Raiders cut them? If we’re such a deep team why are so few of our cuts get another nfl job? I mean Fargas could still play and be a decent back up. Why didn’t he get a second chance? ANd nobody would touch Walter.
How much do you wanna bet if we cut DHB now nobody will hire him and his NFL career is over? I know Jami Russell was a demotivated disaster but why wouldn’t a team just give him at least a tryout in camp and motivate him to lose 30lb to see if he could fulfill his potential? If not just cut him. But why not give him or all these x-Raiders a chance?
Is there a bias about x-Raider players? I donno, but looks that way.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
A few short years ago Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison were two of the best up and coming LB’s in the NFL. What happened?
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They jointly made an inordinate number of INT’s (for LB’s) which was unusual, even for the NFL. Then it was discovered that they weren’t worth a schit against the run. Capt. Kirk was a great tackler, often leading the defense. The only problem was that it was usually 25 yards down-field. It became obvious that Capt. Kirk really wasn’t suited to be a MLB in the NFL. Thomas Howard’s claim to fame is yet to be registered. We’ll see how he does with another team. To be continued…
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Howard is awesome in coverage, and a very under rated Blitzer! His run stopping issues seem to be more scheme than ability.
Morrison tackles as a MLB were too far from the los, but didn’t seem to have that problem as am OLB. Again, a tackling machine, and great in coverage.
I say Kirk will be back soon, and TH in a year or so.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
DHB impressive and Stevie admits it in his notes……is there some change of position in his being the 5th bbest player at WR???
Stevie did you speak too soon????/LOL
August 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
hat about Fargas, Schweigert, Andrew Walter, Jami Russell, Morrison, and a bunch of other x-Raiders players who’re forced to retire at pritime of their career as soon as Raiders cut them? If we’re such a deep team why are so few of our cuts get another nfl job? I mean Fargas could still play and be a decent back up. Why didn’t he get a second chance? ANd nobody would touch Walter.
How much do you wanna bet if we cut DHB now nobody will hire him and his NFL career is over? I know Jami Russell was a demotivated players? I donno, but looks that way.
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Fargas was done IMO. Swag was
August 18th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
It’s OK Stevie!! You ca come out with it man, an admission isn’t all that painful. The kid can play he’s finally getting coached up instead of thrown out there to sink or swim. The kid works his butt off to get better which is the best remedy for inexperience. When he’s spent an entire year under Hue and Saunders and then an offseason no one will question whether he can play ever again……………..period
August 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
The more I listen and read Hue Jackson’s quotes, the more I realize he may be the one person on earth who is more full of schat than me.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Ucla, I am not sure why many x raiders arnt picked up. Best guess is they just went good enough. Sturat Swagy was a really good S at Pardu, but never very good in the pros. Huggy Jr, had very lil gas left. If he didn’t injur his knee, maybe woulda lasted longer.
But I believe Kirk and Thomas are quality NFL players, would love to have them as depth if nothing else.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
3 picks from Vick tonight???
Mike Tyson-Mike Vick
Two most overrated athletes ever in the history of sports.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I remember the Casey Matthews debates in here (especially with DKnight).
Well, Casey Matthews sucks. Waaaaaay too small to play LB, best bet is to be a MM34 safety/hybrid LB.
He has zero future as an NFL LB.
August 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
In nfl football it would be Ryan Leaf and JaFatass
August 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Hue is handling the media dude as a HC the better you are at that the easier your job is. The media can make a job much tougher than it has to be if they don’t like you because they contol public perception. Just like you guys in here all Steve has to do is change one word and your whole attitude shifts.
You guys are sheep!!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Who hires Al Davis if he were to somehow be removed from the Raiders?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
3 picks from Vick tonight???
Mike Tyson-Mike Vick
Two most overrated athletes ever in the history of sports.
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Pre-season, Archie Bunker.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Mike Tyson-Mike Vick
Two most overrated athletes ever in the history of sports.
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Um, not so much. Don’t know if you ever saw Tyson fight in his prime, but he was definitely not overrated. He turned out to not be able to overcome his demons, but as a fighter he was as fearsome and dangerous as anyone that’s ever put on the gloves. He was so feared that guys would begin fights with him just trying to keep away from him. I will never forget the look on Michael Spinks’ face before round one of their title fight. He looked like he was ready to piss his pants.
I think people remember the cartoon character he became, and forget that he was one of the most dominating fighters that ever put on the gloves before all the nonsense.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Plus Mike Tyson suffers from mental illness. If he didn’t, he would have been one of the greatest fighters in history. Every now and then ESPN will show his earlier fights. It takes them no more than 5 minutes to show his first 20 or so fights, because they’re all knockouts within a few seconds.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
On another note, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Patriots put up 60 on somebody this year.
It wouldn’t faze Belichek to run up the score, and they certainly look capable these first two weeks.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Al Davis will win two more Super Bowls before he retires!
Code Black 2011
Dirty Possum,
I think all the Dirty Sanchez(s) you have been receiving from priestbj and Righty12 have clouded your judgement.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Guys it’s very early in preseason everything looks like it’s something else. You have to allow things to play themselves out. One issue is a lot of teams will not show who they are until maybe the 5th game of the season.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I remember the Casey Matthews debates in here (especially with DKnight).
Well, Casey Matthews sucks. Waaaaaay too small to play LB, best bet is to be a MM34 safety/hybrid LB.
He has zero future as an NFL LB.
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What up Vegas?!
I am guilty of the Casey Matthews hype machine as well, largely in part because I live in Eugene and saw him play very well week in and week out.
I still have hopes for the kid, he was coming along quite nicely until tonight’s performance, which I didn’t see and only just read that he played poorly on pft.com. He was just exposed or what?
Hope you are well my friend!
August 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Many of us have taken our shots at Al Davis and I must admit that I have jumped all over him as well. Now, he getting older than the hills and he’s not looking very well, so they say, those who have seen him. Probably just old age at work.
On the positive side looking back on his tenure here at Raiderland over the years, he’s done some great things that we should give him credit for:
He was instrumental in merging the two leagues together and we now have the NFL as a result. That effort and involvement got him into the HOF. Although, I don’t believe that owners should be in the HOF.
The terms “commitment to excellence,” “just win baby,” and “Raider Nation,” have his signature imprint.
As a whole, Al has been very good to many of his players, helping them out and giving many of them chances into coaching. Probably more so than other owners. He ever has reunions for the Raiderettes and their families.
Al was the first owner to hire a black head coach (Art Shell) and the league has never looked back, with many hirings since. Including our currect coach Hue Jackson.
Al was the first owner to hire an Hispanic head coach (Tom Flores) who was a head coach for us for ten years and won two super bowls. He still works in our organization (Al’s way of taking care of his own).
Al was the first owner to have a “women as the CEO” of an NFL organization. She’s been here more then 10 years now, Amy Trask.
Al is the only NFL team to have his “web-site” in six different languages. That goes with his concept of Raider Nation…reaching out to fan all over the world. Many other NFL teams like to use the word “nation” in some way with their team, but they have nothing concrete to show that they embrace or reach out to the world, as Raider Nation actually does.
Al has the Raiders really involved in community and youth organizations. You see it on their Web-site all the time. I’ve checked out many web-site such as the dischargers, cowboys, patroits, colts. KC and Denver and they seldom, if ever have any involvement.
From clothing stores like the Raiders Image to many other things of involvement that we’re not privileged
to…the list goes on.
So, when I get mad or upset with Al, I have to temper myself by acknowledging all the good things he has done. If you compare Al with the Spanos family, owners of the dischargers, it’s Al with a 10+ and the Spanos with a minus zero. And that probably applies to 90% of all the owners. Most of them don’t have the love for the game like Al. The Raiders are his life and his first love.
Just my take. I’m sure most of you know these things and you could probably add to the list. GO RAIDERS and GO AL DAVIS.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Priest,
I agree with you, which is why I chuckle a little when I see folks criticizing playcalling and so forth in preseason.
You know this as well as anyone; coaches and coordinators are putting guys in different situations to see how they react and perform. Obviously (thanks, Hue) you’d like to win the game, but there’s a whole lot going on inside the game that doesn’t necessarily meet the eye in terms of preparation for the upcoming season.
That said, the Pats look very, very good on both sides of the ball at the moment.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Hue is handling the media dude as a HC the better you are at that the easier your job is. The media can make a job much tougher than it has to be if they don’t like you because they contol public perception. Just like you guys in here all Steve has to do is change one word and your whole attitude shifts.
You guys are sheep!!
How old are? 9? That is particularly bad writing, even for you.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
37.priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Guys it’s very early in preseason everything looks like it’s something else. You have to allow things to play themselves out. One issue is a lot of teams will not show who they are until maybe the 5th game of the season.
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WHAT? Like when thery’re 0-4. Gottit!
The good teams will cram it down your throat whenever they feel like it. THAT is what Oakland needs to do to SF.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
39.Hagar the Horrible Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Just my take. I’m sure most of you know these things and you could probably add to the list. GO RAIDERS and GO AL DAVIS.
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Wish the likes of KK could see it that way. If you love the Raiders, Al comes with the pick. He is the Raiders.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Hagar The Horrible,
I’d take Spanos over Al Davis any day. In the past 20 years Spanos has been far better than Davis.
As far as Al’s past achievements, what does that have to do with running a current NFL team? George Washington did a lot of great things, too. Should we dig him up and put him in charge of the Raiders?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Hue is handling the media dude as a HC the better you are at that the easier your job is. The media can make a job much tougher than it has to be if they don’t like you because they contol public perception. Just like you guys in here all Steve has to do is change one word and your whole attitude shifts.
You guys are sheep!!
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Who is changing their opinions? You are the only one that thinks every player Al drafts is amazing, often comparing 7th rounders to Hall of Famers.
DHB was panned since the second he was drafted. Hell, probably before that being that his name was being connected to the Raiders a week before the draft.
I would love for DHB to be a game breaker, as would everyone else on this blog.
Funny thing is, he catches one pass TJ and you light up the blog like, “omg, told you all!” as if he was the second coming of Jerry Rice (whom you have already compared him to). One or two games makes not a pro bowler, which is what we all hope a 7th overall pick would be right?
Bottom line is this: He needs to be consistent over the course of several SEASONS (not games) to equal what he has already been paid by Al.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
PS- You calling anyone a sheep is hilarious…….period.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
priest, it’s a catch 22. If Hue’s for real, Al’s going to run him out. If he’s not, Al’s going to scapegoat him. Two words: JON GRUDEN. Is your memory that short?
August 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
The Raiders don’t have a prayer until Al is gone.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
ET They are very very talented and experienced and cohesive, but the Eagles are just the opposite right now due to the lack of cohesion.
August 18th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Sure MR!! get outta here!!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Gforce21 you are making things up aren’t you? that’s not very nice Gforce…..whatever the hell that means.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Why did Al allow Gruden to leave anyway? Never really understood that, though I sided with Al because he’s the boss. Just wonderin………
August 18th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Sure?
Priest…what happened with Gruden?
He goes 8-8, 8-8, 12-4 w/AFC Champ. appearance in his first 3 years. After that third year, he wants a new contract. Al says no. DOCUMENTED. Search this blog. Jerry referred to it several times. So, Gruden shops around, naturally. What’s he supposed to do? He’s proven himself to be at least one of the 5 best head coaches in the game, I’d say going 12-4 and reaching the AFC championship demonstrates that, if not demonstrate that he’s even better. You think Hue would put up with that? Hue takes us to 12-4, AFC champ. game, Al refuses to give him a new contract, and you think he’s not going to shop himself around and think of an exit plan? You’re in denial, Priest.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
What part of that was made up?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Don’t give a damn what happened to gruden it was a 100 years ago……………….get the hell outta here!!!
August 18th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
You didn’t make anything up, G Force. That’s his short answer when he’s too lazy to put up an intelligent argument. He’s such a dry, brick headed, tone def shill you have to wonder if he’s just screwing with us. If he’s just an employee of IBA trying to bring more hits.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
It was 10 years ago, priest. Al Davis won his last Super Bowl 28 years ago, and you like to use that as a credential that he’s still capable of running a team now. You tell me who’s reaching further into the scrap book.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Gruden isn’t here because he hit rockstar status and was bigger than Al. That cannot happen.
Hue is playing it good now with the Coach Davis thing. If he can put up some wins to go with that, he’ll be around awhile.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
priest, Hue makes us a deep playoff team. Will Al make him amongst the highest paid coaches in the league? Or will he low ball him like Gruden? It’s a no-win situation in Oakland. If you win, Al’s running you out. He’ll put an assistant in your spot and pretend it was all his ideas that led to the winning. You lose, he’ll scapegoat you anyway. Isn’t that right, priest?
August 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
You’re screwing with yourself Moron!! don’t care what happened to Gruden yo two birds spend the next year trying to figure it out. Hue Jackson is the coach now that’s all that matters.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Well I feel bad for Al because after he dumped Gruden, he paid a mighty steep price, both in the Raider lore and financially. Just felt bad for the dude man. Cant help it.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Hue Jackson is now the coach and I cant imagine Al would mess with Hue, being Al is getting up there in years. If hererra tries to tell Hue what to do, Hue can tell him to fck off. Couldn’t do that with Al. Hue is gonna be the main man in Oakland.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
What do you mean he hit rock star status, G Force? You win, the media likes you, some how you’re a pompous rock star? You don’t think the media’s going to put hue on a pedestal if he wins? You don’t think the media’s going to play the same angle, and aggravate Al with headlines that read “Hue’s Raiders!”? That’s what happens when coaches win. The media makes stars out of them. Unavoidable. If Hue wins, it’s going to aggravate Al, and he’s going to want to get rid of the new attention magnet in the organization, even if Hue keeps his head down, twiddles his thumbs, and doesn’t say a word.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
BHP,
Al had a lot to do with where the NFL is today. Things that actually transcend the game itself.
That being said, he hasn’t been relevant for at least the last two decades.
dotdotdotdotdotdotdotPERIOD.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Al’s getting too up there in years to mess with a coach? Cable just took the team from 5-11 to 8-8. Al promptly fired him, and publicly bashed him. You are in so much denial it’s clinical, AllRaiderAllTime.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
The only way you can be an optimistic Raider fan today is if you close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and just keep shaking your head vigorously, like priest, AllTimeRaider, and Hagar.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Man that is a bad situation if indeed it is true. Hue can win and Al will appreciate him for that, but who knows what goes on behind the scenes. Who be whispering in Als’ ear about stuff goin on, or trying to get a stir outta Al. Thats what I’d like to know. Who the hell is going around stirrin the pot? Hue aint goin to have none of that, I hope he pimp-hands the first inside mole he comes across, just like Cable did.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Ah, but you see, Gruden didn’t pander to Davis. He didn’t apologize for anything and reveled in his popularity and Raider Nation loved him for it.
Hue will defer to “Coach” Al and give all glory to the Raider organization. He plays a better political game (at least to this point) than Gruden did.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
65.Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Al’s getting too up there in years to mess with a coach? Cable just took the team from 5-11 to 8-8. Al promptly fired him, and publicly bashed him. You are in so much denial it’s clinical, AllRaiderAllTime.
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Well Al must be one tough old basturd at his age, so it it pretty obvious then who still calls the shots. But I’d like to know who the trouble maker is behind closed doors that gets Al fired up to not extend Grudens contract, hire certain coaches prior to Cable, and then get Cable fired. Hue just needs to keep an eye peeled behind his back.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Probably Herrera, he seemed pretty dimwitted in the video where he wanted to beat up Kawakami.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Al was pretty upset the day he announced Hues’ hiring. Then he went on to trash Cable. I know Al didn’t make that stuff up. Somebody must have poisoned Als’ mind about some things, because Al was one pissed mofo. I’m pissed at hererra for letting Al roll out there with out a baseball cap or something because people made fun of Al. I feel bad for him because he was so angry and spiteful that day, somebody had to have fired him up, an instigator. Think about it…………
August 18th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
I thought he was pretty lucid at certain points during that conference, he just stayed on certain points a bit too long.
But your right, I wish someone would have hooked him up with a hat that day. Al is pretty stubborn though, who knows if he would have worn one anyway.
At least he didn’t break out the overhead projector….
August 18th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
What makes you wonder about it all is when Cable was hired, Al had no clue who he was. So he was going off the advice of who? And then that who person gets Al all worked up so Al has to dump Cable, then throw him under the bus.
Al isn’t to blame. Cable improved the team and Al saw progress. Did Cable ever admit to taking hookers on road trips, or did the instigator just plant that in Als’ head. Al wouldn’t have aired all that dirty laundry if the instigator hadn’t got him so fired up.
When Cable pimp handed hansen, Al couldn’t have cared less. Did he ever do anything about all the other sucker punches that went on in side? Doubt it very much. Somebody has put a spell on Al.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Somebody has Al hypnotised and it is comong from the inside.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
He probably hired Cable due to players talking him up, much like how he hired Joe Bugel.
I don’t think the girl Cable took on trips was a hooker. Probably his girlfriend, but players did verify he brought a lady friend with him.
As far as Hue ascending, I thought that was in the cards long before the season ended. However, it was complicated by Cables dominance over the AFC West and finishing with a non losing season. Remember, Cable did say that the Raiders weren’t losers anymore. That could not have made Al happy.
Al was pretty silent until Cable and his supporters started talking crap to the media. So, in revenge Al put his stuff out there for public consumption.
August 18th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
#75 Gotcha.
Man it sure is something to see Al go off tho. I really thought somebody had to be pushing his buttons.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Hagar The Horrible,
I’d take Spanos over Al Davis any day. In the past 20 years Spanos has been far better than Davis.
As far as Al’s past achievements, what does that have to do with running a current NFL team? George Washington did a lot of great things, too. Should we dig him up and put him in charge of the Raiders?
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Oh I see. So in other words you’re just a bandwagon fan, not a true Raider fan.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Al has always been spiteful and petty. We’ve heard the stories of locker room shoe shining, his hurting the team to “win” a feud with marcus allen, why he traded dave casper, the gruden situation… He’s just petty like that.
Al used to have the inside track on top athletes and top scouting (wolf) to win despite his pettiness. No longer the case.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
The only way you can be an optimistic Raider fan today is if you close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, and just keep shaking your head vigorously, like priest, AllTimeRaider, and Hagar.
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Silly boy,
Really, so Ford, Reece, McFaddy, Bush, Wiz, Veldheer, Moore, and a top 5 Offence in the AFC
Houston, ShoNasty, Kelly, Seymour, Whimbley, McPain
And going 8-0 in the AFC West is not reason to be optimistic??
August 18th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Dirty, you’d rather keep losing with davis than win with a different owner running this team?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
why do people not understand the morrison/howard situation? did u ever watch games? the run defense was abysmal. morrison made a lot of tackles but he did tend to make them 4 or 5 yards deep. the raiders saw that the lb’s needed fixing. they axed morrison first b/c he wasn’t an athletic specimen like howard. howard was given a little longer b/c he’s a speedster. but it had nothinging to do w/ scheme! he was horrendous at covering the run. anytime the play came at him, he was swallowed up by the lead blocker and pushed downfield, never even looking like he was trying to fight thru. on plays away, he would take off 100 mph to try to make a play across the field that wasn’t his responsibility. and what would happen? they would cut back, right where he was supposed to be, and get a 15 yd run, while he was looking back over his shoulder. basically, he thought of himself as a speedster and that’s all he wanted to be. not remotely tuff enuff.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
the patriots picked up andrew walter. i guess they don’t know talent either?
August 18th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
We didn’t go 8-0 in the AFC West. AFC West sweep is only 6 total games. So, we won 2 out of conference games.
6-0 vs AFC West
2-8 vs others
We gave up 30 TDs passing (I think). Nnamdi gave up zero of those. All the non-Nnamdi personnel are back to star on defense this year. Oh yeah, and we sucked against the run.
We really have to get better on both sides of the ball, be it talent or scheme.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
the raiders were great during gannon’s time. when he went down, they struggled to find a qb. russell set them back. he had talent but he was a drug addict. the bandwagon raider-bashers in the media, with a lot of ageism that they should be ashamed of, started in on them b/c of the russell/dmc/dhb picks that all seemed to be busts. well, what happened last year? dmc broke out. dhb started to show some ability. last year’s draft looked good. campbell played well down the stretch. they went 8-8. undefeated in the afc west. lane kiffin showed he was a weasel. suddenly they had to start shutting up, just in case things were getting turned around. watch, when the raiders start winning, all of the idiots who talked crap won’t say a word. they’ll act like they never said anything. and all of the bashers on here will either go away or pretend their raiders fans again. al davis will have his revenge!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Alex7,
would you rather be broke with your wife, or hit the Lottery after she passes away!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
only an idiot would say they would take alex spanos over al davis. no superbowls to 5. good choice.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Sports are not equivalent to marriage.
It’s just entertainment.
I’d rather be entertained by the Raiders regardless of who is signing the checks.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Rob, what good are those superbowls to fans aged 27 and under?
“You know, a really, really, really long time ago we did things the right way around here…”
I’ll take winning and playoffs and smart decisions today over an owner that points at relics.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
G force sees clearly, without all the rah rah blind faith.
The Raiders are returning a terrible terrible run defense and a petty bad pass defense.
The qb crumbles under pressure.
Our d coordinator was in a jv league three last few years.
We play a real schedule this year.
Raiders 7-9 tops.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Rob_Raider You’re wasting your time that ignorant kid thinks he knows everything. He tries to tell people who were there what happened when he wasn’t instead of listening to the person who was.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Blah blah in the past, blah blah 30 years ago…
Go watch your vhs now.
August 18th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Sure little crybaby, all you evr do is come in here whining and crying…………go to bed!!
August 18th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
An interesting read:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/08/18/invisible-al-davis-the-raiders-are-entering-a-different-era/
August 19th, 2011 at 12:08 am
JB this has been coming increasingly for the last ten years. he use to be omnipresent, then he started showing up in spurts and then every now and then. I remember we you couldn’t go too a practice without seeing him. Now he is rarely around. That’s why I laugh when people used to say the he didn’t like Gruden because he stole his spotlight. the truth is the onlt time you saw him was when he hired or fired the HC. For the last 15 years or more he just hasn’t been the same. Even during the last few years in LA he started staying home an would have a friend of mine bring the film for him to watch. 30 years ago he was at every practice everyday.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:08 am
20 years ago for that matter.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:29 am
priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Rob_Raider You’re wasting your time that ignorant kid thinks he knows everything. He tries to tell people who were there what happened when he wasn’t instead of listening to the person who was.
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Exactly your problem. You, being a person who was “in the building” makes you jaded. You look at everything through Al Davis colored glasses. You need to take your blinders off and realize that we have not been consistently relevant on the field in almost a decade. And maybe even the decade before that.
Davis justly should get some positive run when we win, but you BHP don’t want him criticized even during the worst 7 year stretch of any franchise in the history of football. The dude is not made of teflon. Nobody is.
Worst.double.digit.loss.stretch.in.the.history.of.football. Al’s Raiders own that distinction. Not the Lions or the Bengals.
I want Al to hold a Lombardi trophy at least one more time before he takes the long sleep, but the way he runs HIS franchise (at least over the last two decades) has not been conducive to winning.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:31 am
*Davis reiterated that he is in constant communication with Davis and that they are on the same page in terms of what they want from this year’s team.
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This quote from Corkran’s report says it all!!
August 19th, 2011 at 2:40 am
…bone
yup..
August 19th, 2011 at 2:51 am
wait. the last 2 decades? uh, the raiders went to one super bowl and should have gone to another if it wasn’t for an astoundingly stupid call/rule (tuck). and even art shell’s 90’s raiders were usually good. it’s been a ruff few years. but there are definitely signs of life.
and what team hasn’t had a ruff stretch? colts? sucked for years. pats? sucked for years.
the whole “double digit losses” is kinda dumb. a loss here or there makes it double digits instead of single digits. who cares? they haven’t been good. we know that. there have been some questionable decisions. but they improved quite a bit last year, and most raider fans sense that things should be better this year too.
are they the cream of the crop? no.
break it down:
running game–#2 last year. basically the same o-line except for gallery, who was good but not great. veldheer in 2nd year. better passing game should mean even better running game. same 1-2 punch at rb. plus taiwan gives a new wrinkle.
passing game–it hasn’t been good, but campbell actually played very good in the 2nd half last year. the wr’s haven’t done anything too great yet, but the talent is there for big strides. i watched jacoby’s youtube returns/runs/catches yesterday again. he is possibly the fastest on-the-field player i’ve ever seen. unbelievable separation. just blows by people. and really good instincts. dhb? well we’ll see. murphy has been pretty solid really. chaz? maybe, maybe not. d.moore is looking really good. it’s looking like we could have something. and losing miller isn’t actually that bad. a nice possession receiver. but boss will get better ypc and more td’s. we’re excited about the possibilities. maybe a top 12-15 passing game.
run defense–front line looks like it will be dominant. lb’s should be improved thru experience. the talent is there finally.
pass defense–namdi will be missed. but the pass rush is bigtime. #2 last year and getting better. cj and routt aren’t namdi but there pretty good. the safeties are actually quite good. there’s promise there too.
basically, raiders fans have a reason to be optimistic. let’s not forget, that hue jackson is the best hire since gruden. made big strides on offense last year.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:55 am
i see:
top 5 running offense
top 12-15 passing offense
top 12-15 run defense
top 5 pass defense
10-6 record, challenging for wild card, possibly winning afc west.
that’s not crazy, and it’s not wishful thinking. it’s what’s there.
August 19th, 2011 at 3:10 am
rob_raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 2:55 am
i see:
top 5 running offense
top 12-15 passing offense
top 12-15 run defense
top 5 pass defense
10-6 record, challenging for wild card, possibly winning afc west.
that’s not crazy, and it’s not wishful thinking. it’s what’s there.
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i see:
top 3 running offense
top 17-20 passing offense
top 20-23 run defense
top 10-13 pass defense
8-8 record, maybe 9-7 and yes we might be challenging for wild card, possibly winning afc west, But I still think our defense sucks and our QB is not up for the game..
August 19th, 2011 at 4:24 am
Good morning nation. I ate some bad Taco Bell last night. Been running to the toilet all morning.
August 19th, 2011 at 4:31 am
Good Morning B. You know I lost my johnson last night, fell right off. But my two party bros iced it and got me the emergency room and they are still workin on it.
But damn if I didn’t eat a toco bell last night and been runnin too. Problem is I got skank all over my johnson and thats why it fell off.
STILL HOPE TO FIZZLE THE WIZZLE
August 19th, 2011 at 4:56 am
the starting linemen Thursday, from left to right: Jared Veldheer, Daniel Loper, Stefen Wisniewski, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes.
Center Samson Satele spent the better part of practice riding a stationary bike and running on a treadmill.
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Barksdale STILL isn’t getting a shot to replace Barnes at RT?
ugh!
August 19th, 2011 at 4:59 am
Pissed off that the NFLN replay isn’t until Sunday night.
I have never been so distant from the live action of preseason games before.
August 19th, 2011 at 5:00 am
Jackson no doubt used a question about the rapid progress of veteran wide receiver Derek Hagan in picking up the offense so soon and making a strong push to make the 53-man roster to send a message to the younger players.
“He understands that instead of going in and playing X-Box at night time and trying to figure out what man can score a touchdown on that video game, he goes in, he takes his book, opens it and works on it,” Jackson said. “That’s a tribute to him.”
You can bet Jackson is counting upon the media to run that line so that the other players will see it and get the not-so-subtle message.
Hagan had another impressive day of practice Thursday, catching out routes, slants, whatever came his way. He is making it difficult for the Raiders to overlook.
Sure enough, Hagan said, without prompting, that his film study plays a vital part in his success.
“That’s just studying film and knowing how to run routes,” Hagan said. “I have known how to run routes since college. Most routes are a timing thing, and sometimes coach will let me know if I am too short or too deep. I just try and come back the next play and improve.”
Hagan said he is confident in his chances of making the opening-day roster.
“I feel great,” Hagan said. “I didn’t come in just to be here. I came here to help this team win, it doesn’t matter if I am starting or the third receiver or fourth receiver.”
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Anybody who thinks Nick Miller should make the team over this guy is a friggin lunatic!
August 19th, 2011 at 5:05 am
Hue Jackson reiterated that he is in constant communication with Davis and that they are on the same page in terms of what they want from this year’s team.
“(The conversations) are great,” Jackson said. “They’re daily, they’re constant, they’re unbelievable. I love talking to coach (Davis). We keep talking about this team. His whole focus and my whole focus is, how do we continue to get this team better? We know we need to get this team healthy. But we know we want to get this team better, too.”
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Al Davis takes a VERY hands-on approach!
Hue Jax = puppet?
August 19th, 2011 at 5:06 am
Hagan was a beast in college, and I am kind of suprised he has been a NFL vagabond for the beginning of his career.
August 19th, 2011 at 5:23 am
Hagan was a beast in college, and I am kind of suprised he has been a NFL vagabond for the beginning of his career.
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no kidding!
5 TD’s being in the NFL 5 seasons is like DHB production – good thing he wasn’t a Top 10 draft choice
August 19th, 2011 at 5:38 am
Great Morning to all my Nation bros. As you know I am a new person. Losing my johnson has reformed me. I need to let the Nation know I am sorry to Kool Kell for all the nasty things I said about him. I take it all back and beg for his forgiveness. Can you dig it?
B is the man, me and him got a good thing now, and B rules. B@uce is the sauce, fashizzle. Gonna hook up with my new bro, but be kind to me, a bro aint gotta johnson. You know what I mean.
You all know I was kiddin about everything, just havin a little fun with the party machine and my alter-ego, Charged Up. I really love the Raiders. You know what I’m sayin.
I really want my johnson back but I’ll spare you all the details. If you know what I mean.
Peace out Raider bros.
NO MORE BEATIN MY JOHNSONS BEEN EATIN
August 19th, 2011 at 5:56 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.ROCKSTAR,JFB.
August 19th, 2011 at 5:57 am
what’s up Dirt Lot?
coffee is on me today
enjoy
August 19th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Good Morning Nation!
Dirt Lot, JFB, Rockstar…can I grab a cup too?
Happy Aloha Friday!
August 19th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Rockstar…can I grab a cup too?
Happy Aloha Friday
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you know it bro!
Happy friday to you as well
Beeecham a new man?
August 19th, 2011 at 6:10 am
HWNRDR.ROCKSTAR,HOW’S THE FAMILY ? NOT ABUSING THE KID BY MAKING IT WEAR K.C OR STL. GEAR R U ?
August 19th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Family is good bro! going home next month for a week! but can’t wait to get my first tailgate on! Next Sunday…like I said, won’t be there for the opener because of a project at work, so at least this game I can make it…let’s start the season on a bang!
Rockstar, thanks bro!
August 19th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Just to get to the Gruden thing…Al D offered him a contract (3mill) not unlike what he got at Tampa. Gruden wanted to make all personnel decisions, and that isn’t the way we do it. Whether right or wrong, we have always done it as a group with Al having the final say. Gruden was a great offensive mind, not a great personnel guy. The defense was ran by Willie Shaw initially, who was one of the best D-coordinators ever. Don’t quite know what happened there, then Bresnehan, who was on his staff took over. Gruden wanted out because he couldn’t take over in all personnel decisions, which he wasn’t good at…as witnessed by what he did in Tampa.
Yes they won the SB (with Dungy’s team), but then he dismantled the team and left them like us, with no young guys that he developed. Gruden is a great veteran coach, but does not develop young players (remember our squad)..
August 19th, 2011 at 6:51 am
If you remove all the Hue post practice quotes from these daily articles, what is left???
We can read the Hue transcript or watch the video for crying out loud. I want to read about what went on in practice from an original perspective.
Anyone else notice this? Its 80% re-hash of the Hue interview every day. Gets old.
August 19th, 2011 at 6:55 am
As I said the other day:
“Oakland will likely get two third-round compensatory picks for the losses of Nnamdi Asomugha and Zach Miller. It should also get a decent comp pick for the loss of Robert Gallery.”…espn.com.
Nice.
August 19th, 2011 at 6:57 am
I dont think we will get one for Miller because of the signing of Boss, or at least we wont get a 3rd.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Is that a 3rd round pick next year?
August 19th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Big Boss! Miller should’ve made a wiser decision & waited like the organization asked him to. Now, we just got a better tight end.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:05 am
yes, any compensatory picks we receive will be for the 2012 draft.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Anybody watch the philly pitt game last night? I saw Nnam ‘try’ to make one play… shady mccoy was running right at him and Nnam dove at his feet and whiffed. Seemed kinda familiar to me.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
3 picks from Vick tonight???
Mike Tyson-Mike Vick
Two most overrated athletes ever in the history of sports.
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Until you have played against them or gotten knocked the f$%k out by them.
Arm chair analysts are hilarious.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:12 am
“It all trickles down from our leader, and that is Hue Jackson,” said fullback Marcel Reece, who then quickly added: “and Al Davis himself.”
====Well, it won’t be long before Al trys to trade Hue Jackson.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:14 am
Meegwell Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:51 am
If you remove all the Hue post practice quotes from these daily articles, what is left???
We can read the Hue transcript or watch the video for crying out loud. I want to read about what went on in practice from an original perspective.
Anyone else notice this? Its 80% re-hash of the Hue interview every day. Gets old.
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I pretty much notice THE GAME. Thats what we all notice including the coaching staff.
I mean, “the original perspective?” You arent there , anyway. Thats the only true perspective…why worry about practice anyway – its the game that counts..and this is just pre-season
August 19th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Bcz24 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Anybody watch the philly pitt game last night? I saw Nnam ‘try’ to make one play… shady mccoy was running right at him and Nnam dove at his feet and whiffed. Seemed kinda familiar to me.
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That seemed unfamiliar to me, because SHADY McCoy is on the same team as Nnamdi!
FAIL
August 19th, 2011 at 7:18 am
***tries***
August 19th, 2011 at 7:19 am
You know I was going to ask that if anyone saw the Philly game last night. I did hear Asomugha got abused by the Pitt WRs…
Didn’t get home until the 4th qtr so I don’t know.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:25 am
CODE BLACK in full effect!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:25 am
So we get extra picks in next years drafts for losing a couple of free agents.
Sweet!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:26 am
ROCKSTAR,HOW’S THE FAMILY ? NOT ABUSING THE KID BY MAKING IT WEAR K.C OR STL. GEAR R U ?
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Dirt Lot,
no way bro!
you might as well kick me in the junk & steal my wallet
August 19th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Anyone ready to see how well our secondary plays on Saturday? I’m hoping DVD shows some improvement. I didn’t watch how #21 played for the eagles last night…any feedback?
August 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
128.RaiderSam Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Bcz24 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Anybody watch the philly pitt game last night? I saw Nnam ‘try’ to make one play… shady mccoy was running right at him and Nnam dove at his feet and whiffed. Seemed kinda familiar to me.
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That seemed unfamiliar to me, because SHADY McCoy is on the same team as Nnamdi!
FAIL
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Sorry I meant Mendenhall. I was talking to someone else about McCoy and I miss typed. Thanks for pointing that out. Doesnt matter who the RB was, Nnamdi still made a puss move diving at his feet and totally whiffing.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Headed to work on BART…..dressed in all black like the Omen……shield and all baby!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Until you have played against them or gotten knocked the f$%k out by them.
Arm chair analysts are hilarious.
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Not armchair anaylsis , at least not with Tyson.
Bert Sugar, THE boxing authority, ranked Mike Tyson as the 17th best heavyweight of all-time and not in his 100 greatest fighters list.
Mike Tyson was knocked out 5 times!!! Joe Louis, never. Ali, never. Hell even Riddick Bowe, only once.
The best fighters of Mike’s generation (Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Ray Mercer) Mike either ducked or got smashed into the pavement by.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:31 am
As I said the other day:
“Oakland will likely get two third-round compensatory picks for the losses of Nnamdi Asomugha and Zach Miller. It should also get a decent comp pick for the loss of Robert Gallery.”…espn.com.
Nice.
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Are you kidding me?
I can’t wait to re-draft the next Mario Henderson, Quentin Moses & Sam Williams in April!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:31 am
If I am correct, I’m sure Bcz will let me know if I am not, compensatory picks come at the end of the round.
So a 3rd compensatory, is really like an early 4th.
Either way, I will take it.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Bcz easy mistake….its all good I know what u were gettin at! Nnumbdi always whiffed on tackles lol….just like his barber whiffed on his haircut
August 19th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I didn’t watch how #21 played for the eagles last night…any feedback?
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Pitt didnt thrown on Nnam once. They totally abused Asante though. Nnamdi was only involved in 1 play, it was the run by mendenhall that i previously mentioned.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:33 am
April!
139.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:31 am
If I am correct, I’m sure Bcz will let me know if I am not, compensatory picks come at the end of the round.
So a 3rd compensatory, is really like an early 4th.
Either way, I will take it.
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You are correct sir. 3rd round comp picks are essentially 4th rounders, but you gotta pay the guy like a 3 instead of a 4
August 19th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Not armchair anaylsis , at least not with Tyson.
Bert Sugar, THE boxing authority, ranked Mike Tyson as the 17th best heavyweight of all-time and not in his 100 greatest fighters list.
Mike Tyson was knocked out 5 times!!! Joe Louis, never. Ali, never. Hell even Riddick Bowe, only once.
The best fighters of Mike’s generation (Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Ray Mercer) Mike either ducked or got smashed into the pavement by.
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Tyson easily could have been the greatest boxer ever, if he kept his focus. Jail didnt help him either.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Mike lost Rooney and other guy who managaed him is why he fell off…..none of those boxers from that era couuld beat Mike for real….are u crazy? After Roooney left tyson stoped boxing and just threw haymakers
August 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Fk Bert Sugar
August 19th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Asomugha got abused by the Pitt WRs
Anybody watch the philly pitt game last night? I saw Nnam ‘try’ to make one play… Mendenhall was running right at him and Nnam dove at his feet and whiffed. Seemed kinda familiar to me.
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Really?
I didn’t see that game. hilarious!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:38 am
I dont think Aso got abused by Pitts receivers at all, they didnt throw at him one time.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:40 am
People hate hard on Tyson but as the late Ralph Wiley said…..”the biggest upset ever is that Mike Tyson will live a long life”…….im happy Mike still standing. He is the people’s Champ! At least mines
August 19th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Thanks Bcz24. hope our secondary steps it up Saturday, still concerned about Routt replacing Nnam.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:42 am
compensatory picks come at the end of the round.
So a 3rd compensatory, is really like an early 4th.
Either way, I will take it.
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100 % correct JFB
August 19th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Yeah yeah…we will hear the same excuses for Nnumbdi not being thrown to aftter Philly gets aced by Dallas and NYG lol
August 19th, 2011 at 7:43 am
I don’t get the hate on Nnamdi. He’s his own man. He decided he didn’t want to be a Raider. All this whining about an ex-Raider is spilt milk. Just let it go already.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Secondary doesnt concern me…..its can the front 7 stop run and cause trouble for the qb?
August 19th, 2011 at 7:45 am
That is correct…If Mike kept his focus and not get F’ed by Robin Givens he would have been a wrecking force far after the damage he already has done!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:45 am
If we use a 5th to go after Pryor, I’m ok with that kind of a gamble given our compensatory picks. I think he could be a decent QB if given a chance to learn and sit on the sidelines awhile.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:46 am
HOW could the secondary NOT concern a guy?? LOL. Seriously. As a group, they are as bad as there is in the NFL. Routte isnt a #1 and ANYBODY they throw out at the other corner shouldnt be playing. The secondary is a MAJOR problem on this team.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Secondary doesn’t concern you? Not even a little bit?
maaaan!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Guest….well if mthfkas still mention him then its up for debate…….plus we talking relevant schit since the game was on tv last nite
August 19th, 2011 at 7:47 am
The secondary is a MAJOR problem on this team.
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obviously
August 19th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Pitt didnt thrown on Nnam once. They totally abused Asante though
I dont think Aso got abused by Pitts receivers at all, they didnt throw at him one time.
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BCZ,
thanks for clearing that up.
I guess the guy who talked to Hwnrdr was mistaken?
August 19th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Nope the secondary does not concern the B@uce…….we got enuff guuys to make plays granted the front guuys get pressure on qb
August 19th, 2011 at 7:49 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011
lol @ the fact you can’t even say your truncated name with out it getting filtered.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Man pitt nor bmore have good CBs……but they get pressure on the qb…..thats the key
August 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Guest…..im just that awesome
August 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I dont the secondary is a MAJOR problem. Of course with the injuries there is some concern, but like many have said, if you can put pressure on the QB then you are taking pressure off your own guys. Pittsburgs secondary (aside from Polumalu) is pretty much a joke, but they put a ton of pressure on the qb. If a qb has 5-6 seconds to find a receiver, even Nnamdi will get beat, but if he has 2-3 seconds then even a rookie can cover the wr.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
If the secondary DOESNT concern a guy then that guy is a fool who know zeeeeeero bout football and this club. Bottom line.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Secondary doesnt concern me…..its can the front 7 stop run and cause trouble for the qb?
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I agree with ROG.
Routt-Huff-Branch-CJ37 is good with me
DVD-Brown-Mitchell and Ware/McFadden/Chekwa/SMoore (may the best man win) at dime corner #4 CB
Rush the passer. Stuff the run. AFC West Champs!
August 19th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Bcz…..exactly……oline is biggest concern
August 19th, 2011 at 7:53 am
This Saturday is not really a good test for the secondary. If they do well, they beat maybe the worst QB tandem in the league. If they give up major passing stats, they got bigger problems than we realize. No win situation.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Barry Garbageson…..id run circles around you on football and anything related Raiders……a strong secondary and a weak front 7 net you what?…..fkin idiot
August 19th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Routt-Huff-Branch-CJ37 is good with me
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Do we know how long CJ is out? If he’s got a bad hammy, that may take longer than we think. He’s no spring chicken.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:55 am
I’d settle for a strong front 7 and an avg secondary. But I don’t like the strong/weak combo too much.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Fairy Garbageson….now go back to your room and wack off to your Nnamdi poster you fkin loser. You dont know football at all
August 19th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Of course with the injuries there is some concern, but like many have said, if you can put pressure on the QB then you are taking pressure off your own guys
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BCZ is money today
you take your vitamins?
CJ37, Brown, Chekwa & Mitchell all “nicked”
August 19th, 2011 at 7:57 am
166.Barry Halverson Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
If the secondary DOESNT concern a guy then that guy is a fool who know zeeeeeero bout football and this club. Bottom line.
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Pretty strong words there friend. You should sit back and read for a little while before saying the guys in here dont know football. There are some pretty sharp guys here.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:57 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Guest…..im just that awesome
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kudos, it takes some impact to have that kind of censorship.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:57 am
127.RaiderSam Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:14 am
[Meegwell Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 6:51 am
If you remove all the Hue post practice quotes from these daily articles, what is left???
We can read the Hue transcript or watch the video for crying out loud. I want to read about what went on in practice from an original perspective.
Anyone else notice this? Its 80% re-hash of the Hue interview every day. Gets old.]
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I pretty much notice THE GAME. Thats what we all notice including the coaching staff.
I mean, “the original perspective?” You arent there , anyway. Thats the only true perspective…why worry about practice anyway – its the game that counts..and this is just pre-season
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@RaiderSam Did you even read my post?
1st: What are you doing here today if there was no GAME to read about, just practice? Yeah, I thought so.
This is a PRACTICE article for those that want to read about the prior day’s PRACTICE.
The request for an original perspective was realted to this article about yesterday’s PRACTICE.
Yes, I wasn’t there, that may be why Im reading this article about a PRACTICE…as you are too. Jack Wagon.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Guest…..its the NFL…..how can it be a no win situation?
August 19th, 2011 at 7:59 am
What the hellas “nicked” mean?
break it down in Hue speak please.
August 19th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Yeah I guess I was misinformed…but what the heck was up with that haircut?
August 19th, 2011 at 8:00 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Guest…..its the NFL…..how can it be a no win situation?
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Your right, the win is beating the fugg outta the Niners in their diggs.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Bcz generally is money…..loud mouth New Yorker lol
August 19th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Do we know how long CJ is out? If he’s got a bad hammy, that may take longer than we think. He’s no spring chicken.
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The good news is our first 2 games are against teams with less than stellar Olines, but decent qb’s. We should be able to get after those qbs and our younger guys should be able to step up.
Talk all you want about Routt, but he is going to see HALF the action he saw last year. Id be surprised if he sees 60 passes this way. This guy only allowed 39.4% completions against him, thats pretty outstanding.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Do we know how long CJ is out? If he’s got a bad hammy, that may take longer than we think. He’s no spring chicken.
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Hue Jackson says he’ll be back and start Week 1 against Dungver.
CJ37 often gets the “injury prone” label in here, but he’s missed 9 games over the past 4 seasons with Oakland. That means he’s played in 55/64 – not bad imo
August 19th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Maybe it’s me, but It seems Routt always gets some of the worse PI calls, hopefully it doesn’t continue this season
August 19th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Talk all you want about Routt, but he is going to see HALF the action he saw last year. Id be surprised if he sees 60 passes this way. This guy only allowed 39.4% completions against him, thats pretty outstanding.
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Oh, I agree. But the flip side of that is DVD seeing a ton of throws his way. You think he’s ready or will be? I’m crossing my fingers.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Hue Jackson says he’ll be back and start Week 1 against Dungver.
CJ37 often gets the “injury prone” label in here, but he’s missed 9 games over the past 4 seasons with Oakland. That means he’s played in 55/64 – not bad imo
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I hope Hue’s guess is right. We are gonna need CJ in there soon.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:04 am
What the hellas “nicked” mean?
break it down in Hue speak please.
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I wish I knew!
Hue’s words, not mine.
“nicked” could be anything other than season ending …
August 19th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Bcz24, good points on Routt. I am looking forward to seeing who is on our starting O-line, Bruce is the wildcard.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Guest….this game is big for a few reasons…..we must show that we wont have let downs against weaker foes like last season…..the offense needs to show it can score tds not fgs…..and we gotta seee how our youngins look from a depth persective
August 19th, 2011 at 8:06 am
What’s our O-line look like right about now?
I’m guessing:
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Barnes-Barks (updated for injuries)
help me out..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:08 am
I hate the fact that everbody talks $hit about Morrison and Howard and how terrible they were in run defence.
For anybody that has strapped on a helmet and pads knows that if your front 4 is weak you aren’t goint to be in many plays especially if you a linebacker. How good is a rb w/ a weak line or how good is a qb w/a weak line. EXACTLLY!!!!
Our front 4 was Gerrald Warren, W.Joseph, T.Kelly when he was a soft a$$ Biach, Burgess a lb playing d end basically, TERDELL SANDS lol and K. Edwards.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:08 am
I wish I knew!
Hue’s words, not mine.
“nicked” could be anything other than season ending …
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So as long as its not a compound fracture like Joe Theismann, it’s just a nick, got it!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:09 am
With the proposed plan of mixing it up and some blitzing I can see routt and cj takin a few the the house
August 19th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Morrison still wasnt a presence even when he had contact on someone
August 19th, 2011 at 8:11 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Guest….this game is big for a few reasons…..we must show that we wont have let downs against weaker foes like last season…..the offense needs to show it can score tds not fgs…..and we gotta seee how our youngins look from a depth persective
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Agree, and I think after the first, maybe 2nd Qtr…the real story starts to develop. I have confidence in the first unit. It’s the 2nd and 3rd unit that seems to be a dropoff in intensity.
Also, I’d like Hue to go for it more on 4th downs just for the helluvit, and rest Jano’s kicks for the regular season. We don’t need no FG’s, lets go for the throat.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Guest, the only lock so far is Veld at LT
August 19th, 2011 at 8:12 am
137.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Until you have played against them or gotten knocked the f$%k out by them.
Arm chair analysts are hilarious.
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Not armchair anaylsis , at least not with Tyson.
Bert Sugar, THE boxing authority, ranked Mike Tyson as the 17th best heavyweight of all-time and not in his 100 greatest fighters list.
Mike Tyson was knocked out 5 times!!! Joe Louis, never. Ali, never. Hell even Riddick Bowe, only once.
The best fighters of Mike’s generation (Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Ray Mercer) Mike either ducked or got smashed into the pavement by.
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Wrong, Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling in their 1st fight in 1936. 12th rd K.O.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Bcz…..exactly……oline is biggest concern
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Wrong!
Oline is already on it’s way to being the MVP unit of this team.
Super duper uper competition at 4 of the spots. Have about 8 guys who are all capable of thriving in our new power scheme.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Morrison dosen’t have the mentality of a hard hitter, he could be if he wanted to but it’s all mental. Dude just isn’t aggressive enough but he can tackle and cover plus he is a homegrown RAIDER so it would be nice to get him back if we can sign Totupo.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:15 am
The defensive front looks like a bunch of monsters compared to the crew that was here in Howard/Kirk’s day. Chuck needs to turn them loose, and meet at QB to destroy his ryhthm.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:18 am
The O-line had some success with the ZBS and then went into this hybrid ZBS/Power system. Is there any solid proof that the power system nets more rushing yards/open lanes than the ZBS?
just curious, not a pop quiz or anything.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Oh, I agree. But the flip side of that is DVD seeing a ton of throws his way. You think he’s ready or will be? I’m crossing my fingers.
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DVD wont be starting over CJ37 though
August 19th, 2011 at 8:19 am
I want to see what Chekwa can do, Ware and Mcfadden might be odd balls out if Hayden, DVD and Chekwa turn out to be ballers in the pre-season. Only reason we lost to AZ is cause our 2ndary blowed.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:19 am
198.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:12 am
137.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Until you have played against them or gotten knocked the f$%k out by them.
Arm chair analysts are hilarious.
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Not armchair anaylsis , at least not with Tyson.
Bert Sugar, THE boxing authority, ranked Mike Tyson as the 17th best heavyweight of all-time and not in his 100 greatest fighters list.
Mike Tyson was knocked out 5 times!!! Joe Louis, never. Ali, never. Hell even Riddick Bowe, only once.
The best fighters of Mike’s generation (Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Ray Mercer) Mike either ducked or got smashed into the pavement by.
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Wrong, Joe Louis was stopped by Max Schmeling in their 1st fight in 1936. 12th rd K.O.
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Yup then he got him back in summer of 38 right? Smack Max with the quickness
August 19th, 2011 at 8:20 am
we must show that we wont have let downs against weaker foes like last season…..the offense needs to show it can score tds not fgs…
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Agreed!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:20 am
199.J Hill Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Bcz…..exactly……oline is biggest concern
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Wrong!
Oline is already on it’s way to being the MVP unit of this team.
Super duper uper competition at 4 of the spots. Have about 8 guys who are all capable of thriving in our new power scheme.
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LOL Jheezy…good morning to you to sir….but o-line has to be the biggest concern because its a new scheme which I like but they are most important part of the team for 2011. If they dont workout we in trouble
August 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Guest, I agree..O line has a lot of changes since last year, I would like for Hue to have this settled before we play the saints on 8-28
August 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Lets see if any of these young DB’s have been learning what Uncle Rod has been preaching to them about pulling the trigger. Would love to see DVD,Routte and Huff with picks vs Alex Smith. With Houston and Shonasty chasing his little a$$ around dude is bound to throw some dead ducks.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:24 am
guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:18 am
The O-line had some success with the ZBS and then went into this hybrid ZBS/Power system. Is there any solid proof that the power system nets more rushing yards/open lanes than the ZBS?
just curious, not a pop quiz or anything.
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We’ve been a good running team for the last several years (much credit to Cable), but the power blocking in the hybrid scheme opened up the huge holes that DMC was running through last year.
We have a lot of success on power and misdirection.
ZBS is for a guy like Fargas. One-cut-and-up. We were a very solid, methodical running team with ZBS but we became explosive when Hue Jack City® came to town.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:24 am
202.guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:18 am
The O-line had some success with the ZBS and then went into this hybrid ZBS/Power system. Is there any solid proof that the power system nets more rushing yards/open lanes than the ZBS?
just curious, not a pop quiz or anything.
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What it is bruh the zbs weakness comes when you get into the redzone. It emphasizes more athletic aka svelte olinemen that go for technique more than just brute strength. Depending on how a defender steps or what his shoulder does is how an OL blocks in the zbs……power you got your man regardless of what he does and you better handle biz
August 19th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Power scheme is way better suited for DMAC and Bush
August 19th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Kirk and howard were the kings of over-pursuing gaps.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:26 am
It’s the 2nd and 3rd unit that seems to be a dropoff in intensity.
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Interesting take.
Intensity, or talent?
It’ only certain guys I really look at on that 2nd unit. Most of those guys will be special teamers and not see much action, wouldn’t you say?
Aside from DVD, Ausberry, a WR or 2, Goethel, Groves, and MAYBE sterling Moore … Who else is really going to be on the field for us once the season starts.
I second your confidence in the starting units. And I think the guys mentioned above are more than capable to play the backup and STs roles they are designated for.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Deathrow, I’m with you on Chekwa, Hayden seems to have something special as well. McFadden and Ware scare me
August 19th, 2011 at 8:27 am
213.alex7 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Kirk and howard were the kings of over-pursuing gaps.
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And when a RB would cut back verse us those dudes were no factors….especially Kirk
August 19th, 2011 at 8:27 am
just recieved some interesting news from my uncle.. says the raiders are seeking a trade for AZ OT brandon keith.. says raiders watched game film of him from the first pre-season game and they are trying to pursue him very hard..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:28 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Power scheme is way better suited for DMAC and Bush
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I agree. DMC really struggled in ZBS. But you see the way he was running last year? What I think had been missing from his game (other than health, of course) was patience and vision. Power scheme allows McFadden to wiggle through the right hole. He seemed like he was thinking too much in ZBS and ended up just slamming into his linemen’s @$$es most plays.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:29 am
I’m ready to see Tonga crack a few LBs tommorow!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:29 am
as for those of you that dont know who my uncle is, he is an nfl sports journalist for yahoo!.com.. he got this inside scoop this morning from an undisclosed source in napa training facilities..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:29 am
218.LA to TheBay Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:28 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Power scheme is way better suited for DMAC and Bush
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I agree. DMC really struggled in ZBS. But you see the way he was running last year? What I think had been missing from his game (other than health, of course) was patience and vision. Power scheme allows McFadden to wiggle through the right hole. He seemed like he was thinking too much in ZBS and ended up just slamming into his linemen’s @$$es most plays.
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Yeah it utilizes his skill to the max….you need to get that guy out of the gate and let him go to work
August 19th, 2011 at 8:30 am
That’s cool then J Raider
August 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Old school remedy for that TacoBellitis is a warm can of 7up!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
just looked the guy up..
brandon keith- 6′5” 335lbs 26yrs old from northern iowa..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:34 am
so what do you guys think the chances are for the raiders to pick up t pryor??
August 19th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Tonga’s nice. I’m glad we kept him on PS last year, but I think they’ll just stick to one FB, who will obviously be Reece.
It’s a shame. Can’t have too many good backs, IMO.
We should all be nervous bout Le’Ron in KC.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
J Raider,
I hope you don’t go the route of Clarence X13!
Heyers best work was at OG last week. I thought he looked starter worthy at LG, If that is the case, we would be a bit thin at OT with just Barksdale as a backup to Veldheer and Barnes.
Az is in need of WRs in the worst way, and maybe Hagan and Bodiford’s play is making it easy to offer up one of our WRs for this OT.
We’ll see.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
We should all be nervous bout Le’Ron in KC.
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look at all the raiders games vs. slow running backs,
then look at all raiders games vs. fast running backs…
i would rather them run le’ron every snap..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
J-Raider,
Al rarely passes up an opportunity to get an athlete like that. Only thing that may stop him is the fact we have no 2nd or 4th round picks (compensaatories not available yet and I don’t know that you can give one up in a supplemental draft — I know you can’t trade them)and Pryor may not last until round 5.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Haha…give them Lil’ nicky!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:38 am
who is clarence x13???
i go my own way man..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
No to Pryor.
That would mean we’d have to cut Edwards or Boeller, who are light years ahead of Pryor as a QB.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:41 am
my uncle didnt say anything about who we are trying to trade.. he usually just texts me raider info from time to time when he sees its worth telling me about.. he text me about kevin boss a couple of days before z miller left. i trust his info..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:41 am
KC will battle Denver for worst record in the AFC West.
Cassell is worse than Tebow.
Hit the guy a couple good times and he’s Chrissy Everett reborn.
Defend the dump off to Charles and the quick passes to McCluster and KC is GARBAGE!!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Who would we trade for this Keith guy, is a LT or RT and is he a starter? Trade Goethel for him. Or are they going to want a tackle in return give them Barns. AL No more trading draft picks, we dont have that many next year.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
232.J Hill Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
No to Pryor.
That would mean we’d have to cut Edwards or Boeller, who are light years ahead of Pryor as a QB.
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i say if edwards beats boller for the back-up position, why not go ahead and get a young project? if not t pryor then who else?
August 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
After 1 preseason game, my starting OL would be
Veldheer-Heyer-Wiz-Carlisle-Barnes
August 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Jhill i dont feel good about Carlisle over the long haul
August 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
We should all be nervous bout Le’Ron in KC.
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look at all the raiders games vs. slow running backs,
then look at all raiders games vs. fast running backs…
i would rather them run le’ron every snap..
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KC has a very complete backfield. I agree that scat backs have been more of a thorn in our side than bigger, bruiser types but you have to account for Charles and Jones. Le’Ron will complement them well.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
235.DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Who would we trade for this Keith guy, is a LT or RT and is he a starter? Trade Goethel for him. Or are they going to want a tackle in return give them Barns. AL No more trading draft picks, we dont have that many next year.
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no way al trades barksdale.. he drafted that guy to start one day.. im thinking the same as j-hill, we might be trading a reciever for b keith. cards need a wr and we have a few formidable ones to offer..
could we be on the verge of trading glass?
August 19th, 2011 at 8:48 am
215.R8drinOK Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Deathrow, I’m with you on Chekwa, Hayden seems to have something special as well. McFadden and Ware scare me
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I was out of the loop yesterday, had a golf tournament. Did we sign Hayden?
August 19th, 2011 at 8:48 am
KC should be nervous of “the real McClain” stuffing all the gaps in the middle. I would love to see Le’ron try to spit in Seymors face. That would be an a$$ beatin wouldn’t it.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:49 am
KC has a very complete backfield. I agree that scat backs have been more of a thorn in our side than bigger, bruiser types but you have to account for Charles and Jones. Le’Ron will complement them well.
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jones is an older, slower, smaller version of mcclain. not too worried about him.
mcclain pretty much took jones carries imo..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Hue is playing it good now with the Coach Davis thing. If he can put up some wins to go with that, he’ll be around awhile.
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Not so fast my friend!
We all know Al keeps and pays the players he likes… The coaches, a different story.
I don’t know why he doesn’t open the check book for good coaches. So it will be interesting to see if Hue will get paid his worth, if successful.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:51 am
I’d rather keep the loser of the Boeller Edwards battle as the #3 guy.
I think Glo is going to be resigned this offseason, so don’t see the need for a developmental guy like Pryor.
I was all for it before we picked up Edwards.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:52 am
What about Sharper he is still out there and we do need another safety with Eugene down?
August 19th, 2011 at 8:52 am
With the proposed plan of mixing it up and some blitzing I can see routt and cj takin a few the the house
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Agreed!
August 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
666
sharper is done man.. waste of cap space..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
B,
All you can do with an old vet like Carlisle is give him his props for taking the disrespect from guys like me and stepping his game up.
Carlisle played solid the other night mayne. And you know I was all over the film looking for material I could come in here with and dismantle the “savage” hype.
Have to admit the guy looked pretty good.
And the kicker for me is there is actually competition for him if he does falter over the long haul. Beast Campbell could slide in there sooner than later, or we can go with Wiz at LG and Satele at C.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Three thing destroyed the career of Mike Tyson, the death of Cus D’Amato, the firing of Kevin Rooney, and his marriage to Robin Givens. Cus was the father figure, Rooney the best trainer he ever had and Givens who put him on meds. After losing Rooney, he lost head movement and conditioning.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
J,
From the film, on Mike Huff’s first (and I think only) series vs. AZ, was he coming from the nick or was he playing at FS or both?
I can see him being used as a utility guy. I missed first few minutes of game, caught it on radio with Papa and Beer and according to Greg, he was out there flying and Tom said he looked bigger in his shoulders.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:57 am
just read that we will have 2 third round picks next season for zmiller and aso leaving.. also a fifth rounder for gallery leaving..
August 19th, 2011 at 8:57 am
What about Sharper he is still out there and we do need another safety with Eugene down?
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I think Eugene’s value was now as the STs leader and gunner.
Stevie Brown is the #2 FS and Mitchell appears to be the #2 SS.
Boyd took all of MM34s reps last week, so I guess he’s that backup hybrid guy.
I think it may come down to the health of Ethridge, who I understand they REALLY liked, and if they try and squeeze Sterling Moore on the roster.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Exla,
Yeah, I saw some of that talk as Tyson being overrated. Tyson’s problem was life got in his way. He was dominant and probably would have stayed that way if not for the BS.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Forgot the 4th thing, the association with Don King.
August 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
No to Pryor.
That would mean we’d have to cut Edwards or Boeller, who are light years ahead of Pryor as a QB.
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I agree 100%!
I like the competition we have for 2nd and 3rd string. If something happens that they have to come in for a few plays, i would feel more comfortable with Boller or Edwards than Pryor.
Pryor is too much of a project.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:00 am
I agree 100%!
I like the competition we have for 2nd and 3rd string. If something happens that they have to come in for a few plays, i would feel more comfortable with Boller or Edwards than Pryor.
Pryor is too much of a project.
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Uh oh, there’s that word. Al loves him a good ol’ fashioned science project, man. Pryor as big as he is with that kind of speed?
He’s probably already a better WR than DHB.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
“Pryor is too much of a project.”
We have enough projects on our team as it is.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
J-Raider
Your probably right about Sharper because no one has even looked at him.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
252.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:57 am
just read that we will have 2 third round picks next season for zmiller and aso leaving.. also a fifth rounder for gallery leaving..
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Thats all conjecture. If Boss performs as well as Miller does in Seattle, we wont get anything for that. We will get a 3rd for Nnamdi. Doubt if we get one for Gallery but i suppose its possible.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
He’s probably already a better WR than DHB.
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Ha Ha LA, you’re going to get some people riled up with this comment. LMAO!
August 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
I agree 100%!
I like the competition we have for 2nd and 3rd string. If something happens that they have to come in for a few plays, i would feel more comfortable with Boller or Edwards than Pryor.
Pryor is too much of a project.
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project type quarter-backs in the nfl are usually either 3rd string or practice squad additions.. in a draft pick’s case he would be the 3rd string guy. boller is CLEARLY only a back-up, thats all he ever will be.. edwards, in my opinion, still has upside and room to grow at the position.. he is already better than boller! boller offers us nothing! why even keep around a quarter-back that we know has hit his cieling 5 yrs ago? dump boller and bring a young kid in here, if not pryor then someone else!
August 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
249.J Hill Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
B,
All you can do with an old vet like Carlisle is give him his props for taking the disrespect from guys like me and stepping his game up.
Carlisle played solid the other night mayne. And you know I was all over the film looking for material I could come in here with and dismantle the “savage” hype.
Have to admit the guy looked pretty good.
And the kicker for me is there is actually competition for him if he does falter over the long haul. Beast Campbell could slide in there sooner than later, or we can go with Wiz at LG and Satele at C.
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I hear ya but I wanna so called savage when we go vs a brute front 7
August 19th, 2011 at 9:06 am
250.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Three thing destroyed the career of Mike Tyson, the death of Cus D’Amato, the firing of Kevin Rooney, and his marriage to Robin Givens. Cus was the father figure, Rooney the best trainer he ever had and Givens who put him on meds. After losing Rooney, he lost head movement and conditioning.
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Exactly….wasnt no one about to beat Tyson if Rooney was still his manager….yeah Don King is a devil
August 19th, 2011 at 9:07 am
255.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Forgot the 4th thing, the association with Don King.
That I believe was the biggest thing that screwed him. i forgot about Don King. Thanks Exla
August 19th, 2011 at 9:15 am
boller is CLEARLY only a back-up, thats all he ever will be..
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I understand that, i never stated he should start.
Do you honestly think Hue will cut Boller or Edwards after all the praise he’s giving them?
He excused the Pryor questions, so i’ll be surprised if they bring him in.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Campbell-Boller-Edwards in whatever order is your QB unit…..im fine with it….hope yall get on board
August 19th, 2011 at 9:23 am
He excused the Pryor questions, so i’ll be surprised if they bring him in.
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Funny, initial thought:
If Jackson said they were taking a look at Pryor that would mean they have no intention of drafting him. The Raiders head coach acting like he has no idea what is going on…
August 19th, 2011 at 9:27 am
“Campbell-Boller-Edwards in whatever order is your QB unit…..im fine with it….hope yall get on board”
I am on board!
Do you know what I am saying?
August 19th, 2011 at 9:28 am
LA,
Both
August 19th, 2011 at 9:29 am
That Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Captin Kirk > T. Goethel
So what’s the hold up?
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Not sure you can say that for sure. Dude had BACK SURGERY during the season, not sure that the play we saw at the tale end of season can justify a reasonable evaluation. Not saying that I wouldn’t love to see Capt. Kirk come back.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:31 am
“Campbell-Boller-Edwards in whatever order is your QB unit…..im fine with it….hope yall get on board”
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Well maybe not in whatever order. Really would not be too happy to see Boller starting.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am
269.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 9:27 am
“Campbell-Boller-Edwards in whatever order is your QB unit…..im fine with it….hope yall get on board”
I am on board!
Do you know what I am saying?
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Yes yes I think I know what you are saying
August 19th, 2011 at 9:36 am
272.DutchRaider77 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 9:31 am
“Campbell-Boller-Edwards in whatever order is your QB unit…..im fine with it….hope yall get on board”
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Well maybe not in whatever order. Really would not be too happy to see Boller starting.
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LOL….boller bout to be the 3rd QB so dont worry playa
August 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
J Hill Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 9:28 am
LA,
Both
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Stevie step in at FS in nickel package? If so, see anything from him?
August 19th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Boeller would be fine working behind this Oline. And with the RBs and WRs we have?
I’m FAR from concerned about our QB situation.
Didn’t Boeller go 9 for 9 last week?
August 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Eager to see how Chekwa does. Saw a lot of him at Ohio State. Unspectacular but very, very solid with a ton of experience there.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Does anybody think the Pryor suspension is BS? If Pryor is suspened, why isn’t Reggie Bush?
August 19th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Boller was like 7/9 but most of those were 2 yard dump offs. Edward was getitng it downfield. He’s #2.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Nickle package was Huff at nickle corner and Brown at FS.
I’d say Brown did his job because no one was open in his zone. Didn’t necessarily make any plays but that was more of a result of nothing going his way.
Boyd was the other LB with MM34 being hurt and actually played really well at that spot.
Boyd was terrible as the deep S though. Was probably only playing that late in the game because of the Eugene injury though.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Does anybody think the Pryor suspension is BS? If Pryor is suspened, why isn’t Reggie Bush?
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This is what happens when the office of the commissioner has ultimate disciplinary authority.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Boyd is slice material
August 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Pryor is a dummy but suspension is BS
August 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Thanks, J.
Merril and Jaws ain’t got sh;t on you, homie.
I’m hoping they cut Huff loose. They tried to get cute with him last year, but he was best as center-fielder and blitzing from nickel CB spot.
If CJ is not healthy, who is going to be the next man up (or the winner of nickel job, assuming Huff stays at FS in given situation).
A) DVD
B) Chekwa
C) S. Moore
D) McFadden
E) Ware
I actually think Ware has got some potential but McFadden is toast. Sterling Moore sounds like he’s having a great camp. He and DMoore iron sharpening iron.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
yeah LA…..I see Edwards being the number 2…better option if JC gets hurt or stinks it up….just thank our lucky stars no Grad this year
August 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Ware is a CB i actually like but DVD will play over all of them
August 19th, 2011 at 9:51 am
278.DutchRaider77 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Does anybody think the Pryor suspension is BS? If Pryor is suspened, why isn’t Reggie Bush?
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The thing about Pryor is he admitted to the infractions, and then his camp delibrately worked to get him declared ineligble by the NCAA in time for him to declare for the supplemental draft. The NFL did not take to kindly to this level of dishonesty, and suspended him for the same term he would have gotten by the NCAA. Reggie Bush never admitted to his wrong doing, and the NFL is not going to suspend a guy for something that allegedly happened 4-5 years ago while he was in college.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Haven’t seen Chekwas, but there is no doubt in my mind that DVD is our 3rd best CB from a coverage standpoint.
I thought the only play he looked suspect on was the Beanie Wells run.
I think those who say he was getting beat all night are, uh, um, I’ll just say mistaken.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:52 am
I like DVD he has a lot of confidence.
August 19th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Also with Pryor, the NFL could have just said screw it, you arent eligble for the supp draft and taken a whole season away. A 5 game suspension for a guy who isnt even close to NFL ready isnt really much but a drop in the bucket when you think about it. Does anyone think Pryor is going to play any real NFL games anytime soon anyways?
August 19th, 2011 at 9:55 am
It’s kind of funny to read comments about Hue Jackson being a puppet for Al Davis…LOL
Making fun that they talk daily, blah, blah, blah.
If you critize Hue for that, then chances are 99% that you’re a phoney, lying loser. Hey, let be honest. If I was making a few million dollars a year, I would be talking to my boss everyday and doing exactly what he wanted. If you have a good job at work, or if you had one in the pass…one you didn’t want to lose. Hey, you accomodated your bosses. It’s part of life. We do what we have to do to support ourselves and our families and to bad rap Hue or any coach or any assistant for being a kiss ass is just phoney.
All the coaches, in all sports, making million of dollars at their professions…kiss the butts of the owners and SO WOULD YOU…IN A HOT SECOND. So stop all the phoney criticism. It is what it is and we would all do the same. Case closed.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Huston abusing Gaither twice a year is gonna be sweet.
KC is now the career killer central for the NFL.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:02 am
DVD was stide-for-stride, just didn’t make a play on the ball. I think he’ll get there.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:02 am
jhill-
DVD needs to get his @zz in the gym and bulk up.
No doubt R. Woodson is gonna “insist” on all the DBs learning how to lay wood in run support.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:03 am
@bcz24
Although their was talk that the Pryor suspension could work out in the team/his favor? If he is suspeneded he doesn’t count against the 53 man roster for the five weeks? Just saw part of the story on ESPN.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:03 am
All the coaches, in all sports, making million of dollars at their professions…kiss the butts of the owners and SO WOULD YOU…IN A HOT SECOND. So stop all the phoney criticism. It is what it is and we would all do the same. Case closed.
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Of course when you make good money in a high profile job, you try to make your bosses happy. But you also have to do your job. High profile gigs require a certain level of proficiency to keep them. Kissing arse isn’t sustainable in itself. Sometimes you have to go against the grain and use your gut.
Cable was a company man, and look how far he got.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:04 am
DVD does need to add some weight, but he was GREAT in run support at Miami. Will need more lead at the next level, but his issues v. run support, in any, this year will not be due to instinct/playmaking ability.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Jackson’s in the honeymoon pahse anyway. He already showed Al the money. Al gave him the keys.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:05 am
LA to TheBay Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:02 am
DVD was stide-for-stride, just didn’t make a play on the ball. I think he’ll get there.
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Stride for stride is the rookie proficiency level. He’s got to learn how to hip swivel and make a play on the ball. That’s what separates the star CB’s from the average CB’s. It’s a huge part of their game and DVD’s gotta learn in the school of hard knocks.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:06 am
It’d also be no suprise if Al picked up another
CB as teams get down to 53..
August 19th, 2011 at 10:06 am
run support, IF any, this year*
August 19th, 2011 at 10:07 am
DVD’s speed comes from his lightweight in some part. So gaining weight to support the run is going to hurt his speed, no?
It’s a double edge sword.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Any word on Missile Mike? We could use him back there enforcing the middle.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Cable was a company man, and look how far he got.
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Don’t see many company men punching the Boss’s Stool pigeon…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Guest, I have a feeling he’s going to get a lot of opportunities next 3 weeks. Probably will see a lot of DVD.
Also, he may want to consider changing his name.
By the time he’s in his 5th season, that technology will be obsolete anyway.
Remember
-Now available on VHS
-Now available on VHS and DVD
-Now available on DVD and VHS
-Now available on DVD
-Now available on DVD and Blu Ray
-Now avaiable on Blu Ray and DVD
See where this is going? Slide laser disc in there somewhere for the sake of novelty.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:10 am
guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:07 am
DVD’s speed comes from his lightweight in some part. So gaining weight to support the run is going to hurt his speed, no?
It’s a double edge sword.
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Guess it depends on the guy. Too much weight will slow anyone/anything down, but look at aguy like Pryor. He’s like 6′6″, 230(ish?) and runs a 4.4.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:11 am
lol LA to theBay,
maybe digital download?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Guess it depends on the guy. Too much weight will slow anyone/anything down, but look at aguy like Pryor. He’s like 6′6″, 230(ish?) and runs a 4.4.
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that’s why I love adding a guy with those measurables. Someone like that, you find a spot for him and build around him. I don’t understand all the love for potential backup QB3’s, when there is a potential stud out there for a 5th round pick.
Seems like an automatic decision to me.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:14 am
what I’d like to see…’bout six times a game…BSoup pullin’ up outta the RG slot and leadin’ a back around the corner and up the field…rollin’ down Hwy 74…imagine the terror instilled in DBs and OLBs…yep, that I’d like to see
August 19th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Sorry for having to cut and go on the Tyson thing.
Fact is, he had a great 4 year run. After those 4 years, he went like 13-6, and got smashed on by run-of-the-mill fighters. Buster Douglas?? He beat the schat out of Mike for a half an hour.
You can blame it on any number of things, just like Strawberry not reaching his peak, Marcus Dupree, Bernard King, and so on and so furth.
Fact of the matter is, Mike is on par with the Ken Norton’s of the heavyweight history pantheom. 2nd or 3rd tier.
He certainly isn’t ahead of Bowe, Holyfield or Lennox Lewis, and that’s just his generation of fighters.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Guest, that is the way we’re moving I think. We’re transitioning so far away from the hard copy sort of mentality. I’m an artist/writer for appx. 20-36 hours a week and nowadays people ask for ‘the file.’
Not the same as a nice piece of original hand-made art, IMO.
But at any rate, with on demand video and MP3 files, I expect that trend to continue futher to its next stage of evolution.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:16 am
M Lonetree Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:14 am
what I’d like to see…’bout six times a game…BSoup pullin’ up outta the RG slot and leadin’ a back around the corner and up the field…rollin’ down Hwy 74…imagine the terror instilled in DBs and OLBs…yep, that I’d like to see
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Yeah, I could see that…
A big wide road grader on the left hashmarks. No contact until the safety draws up and then….
Boom!
August 19th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Mike is on par with the Ken Norton’s of the heavyweight history pantheom. 2nd or 3rd tier.
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Bold statement.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am
I’m sorry but if you can’t see that Cable was way over his pay grade, then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind. Cable “may be a decent line coach” at best, but he has and never will be a good head coach. Cable was at the right place at the right time when Kiffin was fired and that’s what propelled him into the HC job. As far as going against the grain, ya, that’s no big thing! Many coaches have gone against the grain and when they have been successful the owners deal with it. But, when their actions fail, they’ll usually on their way out…hearing the comment:
Don’t let the door kick you in your butt, fool.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am
They’re reporting in KC that first round draft pick, Jon Baldwin (WR) hurt his wrist getting in a fight with Thomas Jones in the locker room. That team might be a bit of a mess. Was reading their message board, and their fans have a more “sky is falling” attitude than some of the people around here…but I didn’t realize how many moves they made in the offseason–some of them pretty good.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:18 am
I hope DVD gets some opportunities with Edwards on him, and they throw some jump balls up their way.
DVD needs to work on ball-skills, and attacking the ball in the air.
EXACTLY what Fitzgerald told him.
Showtime Buchanan was fast, had swagger, and would always be on the WR’s hip. Problem was, he was a weakling, and never could seem to time his jump or get his head around quick enough. Thus he sucked.
We need DVD to not be a weakling, and excel when the balls in the air.
Otherwise, Orton is already working on ways to try to exploit him.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:18 am
LA to TheBay Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Guest, that is the way we’re moving I think. We’re transitioning so far away from the hard copy sort of mentality. I’m an artist/writer for appx. 20-36 hours a week and nowadays people ask for ‘the file.’
Not the same as a nice piece of original hand-made art, IMO.
But at any rate, with on demand video and MP3 files, I expect that trend to continue futher to its next stage of evolution.
^^^^^^^
I do a bunch of work on different type of media. I backup my external hardrive, and shred most of my paper. I have gotten to the point that loose paper is like a pet peeve. It’s all digital anymore.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Yeah, KC was no slouch in the offseason. KC only made moves to get better. Not sure who said it earlier, but they’re weakness is QB. Get Cassel’s shirt a bit dirty, he’s done.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am
For the record, the one player Preist talked about more than any other player leading up to the draft, was Jon Baldwin.
Should suprise no one than, with this new news.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am
292.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Huston abusing Gaither twice a year is gonna be sweet.
KC is now the career killer central for the NFL.
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I was listening to NFL radio last night and there were confirmed reports that Baldwin just didnt show up to practice thursday, unexcused absence, and Gaither isnt even healthy enough to practice yet.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:20 am
KC is going to be our toughest challege in the afc west. They did lose weiss so we will see what happens with the new OCO…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:20 am
their weaknes*
August 19th, 2011 at 10:21 am
M Loner….yeah the pulling guard thing I can get with…..it would spring open DMAC and Bush for some hefty gains
August 19th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Mike Tyson = Sonny Liston
Once exposed, was never the same.
Kind of like JLH!!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am
DVD needs to work on ball-skills, and attacking the ball in the air.
EXACTLY what Fitzgerald told him.
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So true. You don’t get better unless you work on the weaknesses. DVD is getting the proper schooling you can bet from one of the greats in Rod Woodson. It’s trial by fire. I hope they test DVD a lot. He needs to have it in his mind that he’s not defending the ball, but that when the ball’s in the air, it’s his. The receiver is the DB and he’s the WR. That’s the attitude. Aggressive. He needs to step on that field and eyeball Edwards like he owns him.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am
JLH looked good last night…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am
321.Thec07 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:20 am
KC is going to be our toughest challege in the afc west. They did lose weiss so we will see what happens with the new OCO…
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Whoaaaa there….I got KC 6-10 but that xmas weekend game in Narrowhead will be tough…..I see SD as being our biggest challenge….that thursday night game after 3 straight home games will be a tough one as well
August 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
so that fake A$$ nam21 giving an interview with thick A$$ pam…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
324.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Mike Tyson = Sonny Liston
Once exposed, was never the same.
Kind of like JLH!!!!
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That is sum BS…..did you not read exla’s post? With Rooney you woulda never exposed him….no one would have beat that control animal
August 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Not so much worried about KC. The Chargers always are going to be a challenge with P. Rivers.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
328.Thec07 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
so that fake A$$ nam21 giving an interview with thick A$$ pam…
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Pam got a few etra pounds these days
August 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I don’t think Cassell makes it through 16 games this year.
Hell, I will put the over/under at 10.
JHill’s Chris Everett analogy was spot on!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
extra*
August 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Denver and KC fighting for 3rd place.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I do a bunch of work on different type of media. I backup my external hardrive, and shred most of my paper. I have gotten to the point that loose paper is like a pet peeve. It’s all digital anymore.
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I’m trying to make the transition, but I’m just too old school.
Lot of guys have the digital tablets and maybe sketch something rough and scan it in and the rest is done through the PC, but I try to do as much with hand as possible. Most of my work is 100% by hand. Some clients still appreciate that.
Lot of effects photoshop does can be done by hand (and was for several thousand years, LOL). Some of their more sophisticated script tools and blending and layers, etc. is quite impressive. Photo work I would never dream of doing by hand, but artwork — as much as possible.
Soon as I get the website with portfolio work up and running, Ill post it for you guys. I do a lot of sports artwork, portrait work, tattoo designs, etc.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am
B,
So what we are psycho-analyzing athletes now???
Mike Tyson couldn’t make it work with the best trainer ever??
That’s a HIM problem. The mental aspect of sports is very important, and Mike didn’t have it, and Cassius did.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:27 am
326.Thec07 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:23 am
JLH looked good last night…
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His career is over….remember what all the bloggers were saying? He would never get another shot in the NFL….I’d like to see those acknowledge that he did get another shot and that they were wrong
August 19th, 2011 at 10:27 am
336.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am
B,
So what we are psycho-analyzing athletes now???
Mike Tyson couldn’t make it work with the best trainer ever??
That’s a HIM problem. The mental aspect of sports is very important, and Mike didn’t have it, and Cassius did.
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Mike didnt fire Rooney! What are talking about?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Rooney was the best trainer ever….and he was forced out and it wasnt Mike’s doing eventho he knew Mike was nuts
August 19th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Love me some Pam.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:28 am
KC did some goot thinks in the draft, although it must piss them off our 5th rd Wr is better than baldwin at this point.
dont sleep on KC they are going to be a tough out.
We have smashed on rivers the last 2 years, not really concerned about SD…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:29 am
good things…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Don King admitted not putting Mike up against tougher fighters, because he knew he would get exposed and his prize bull would be gone.
Mike Tyson was a manipulation, and thrived during a terrible heavyweight era (85-89).
Who is the best fighter Mike ever beat? Razor Ruddock? 38 year old Burbick? 37 year old Holmes? Frank Bruno?
LMAO…. I think you can make the claim Tyson never beat one of the best 500 heavyweights in their prime.
Bum of the month club.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:31 am
340.LA to TheBay Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Love me some Pam.
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Gimme Sage Steele from Espn…..Lambabilities on her
August 19th, 2011 at 10:31 am
JLH = Avant = Baskett = Curtis. Deep out cut and go WR with about 4 targets a game. Nice to see him still in the league though.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Don King admitted not putting Mike up against tougher fighters, because he knew he would get exposed and his prize bull would be gone.
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did he say that before or after the fallout?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
343.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Don King admitted not putting Mike up against tougher fighters, because he knew he would get exposed and his prize bull would be gone.
Mike Tyson was a manipulation, and thrived during a terrible heavyweight era (85-89).
Who is the best fighter Mike ever beat? Razor Ruddock? 38 year old Burbick? 37 year old Holmes? Frank Bruno?
LMAO…. I think you can make the claim Tyson never beat one of the best 500 heavyweights in their prime.
Bum of the month club.
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Please if Tyson was fighting bums then so was Rock Marciano
August 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
BeAlways
I see the same. SD is a much bigger challenge than the boys in KC because the truth is Haley will be tuned out by his players as soon as things start to unravel and Cassel will always crumble once the hits start coming.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Yeah Don King is an honorable guy Vegas lol
August 19th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Rock did fight bums. No question about that.
Again, why didn’t Tyson ever fight Burt Cooper, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Riddick Bowe?
He had a fight setup with Hollyfield before jail, and he backed out of it.
Who do you think backed him out?
The people making money off him. They knew he wouldn’t win.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Jackson said Chekwa will make his NFL debut against the 49ers.
*Yes. Lets see what our DB depth looks like
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“they’re just being extra cautious. But, for the most part, it’s nothing serious. As soon as the Raiders say I’m ready, I’m ready.”
*Good. I’m ready to see how they get T. Jones the ball.
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“(DHB) has looked impressive in practice since he returned from an offseason injury.”
*Impressive, huh? Solid was the best description before that. Week 1 w/o Murph, DHB will have an opportunity to show that his progress
August 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Early Mike Tyson about to fight #20 or so was freight train. He’s noteworthy if only for the look of fear in his opponents as he strutted across the ring. The beatdowns he’d bring, maybe they were orchestrated too. Who knows, but he was a cultural phenomenom. Maybe it’s true. He never reached his potential. But he didn’t suck either.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I will take Ines Sainz the female reported that was allegedly sexually harrassed by Jets in the locker room…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:36 am
B, Sage is bangin, but I’d like to feed her steak dinners everyday for about a month. I needs more junk.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Good call, Thec.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Ines Sainz, small waist and is sitting on it…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Hagar, the greatest coaches AREN’T butt kissers. Sure, you can say that all of the run of the mill coaches with no determination to win, they’re just so happy to have a job, are butt kissers. Parcells isn’t a butt kisser. Belichick isn’t a butt kisser. Walsh wasn’t a butt kisser. DeBartolo gave Walsh the check book and stayed out of thew way. If you have skills, you don’t have to kiss butt. Kissing ass is for those who have nowhere else to go.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:38 am
I hope they target DHB a bunch in this upcoming game against the Niners. I keep hearing how he’s looking good in practice. But what are they comparing him to? The DHB of last year or an NFL starter quality wideout? I’d like a little more work in game film to judge him.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:39 am
EXACTLY what Fitzgerald told him.
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DVD had ONE play, his first NFL play against a HOF WR, that you make this “ball skill” issue about.
There was not one other play in that Az game where DVD showed a lack of ball skills.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I’ll take Jen Sterger, with the Jets.
One thing I support Brett Favre on.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
JLH is garbage
August 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Glad to hear BC is in the mix on the oline.
Had a lot of poster saying he was a bust…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
There was not one other play in that Az game where DVD showed a lack of ball skills.
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Is there a play where he showed good ball skills?
Thank you
August 19th, 2011 at 10:41 am
J Hill Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
JLH is garbage
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come on J, dude cam still play, he left because it was a numbers game, he would have been squeezed out…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I hooked up Ines Sainz at a Reggae Beach Party in Maui a few years ago. We got hot and heavy while grinding to some sweet beats then took it back to the hot tub.
But I got wasted and decided to bring another honey into the make out jam. Inez wanted me alone, so I gave her the boot and hooked up with the new honey. Almost wasted a perfectly good Magnum on that prude.
Sage Steele is completely ripped off. She wouldn’t make it within 50 yds of my Reggae Party Boat.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I love Hue saying it is all about performance, but the guy who faced a NFL MLB for the first time than wimped out for 3 weeks is a lock for the roster, a guy who missed the whole camp is vying for a starting spot immediately.
What performance is he talking about? Combine performance?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I’ll take Jen Sterger, with the Jets.
One thing I support Brett Favre on.
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I support both of you on that one, nice rack…what about the A$$?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Not an azz guy.
Give me a smile and a rack, and she can have a peg leg, and massive butt hair for all I care.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I love Hue saying it is all about performance, but the guy who faced a NFL MLB for the first time than wimped out for 3 weeks is a lock for the roster, a guy who missed the whole camp is vying for a starting spot immediately.
What performance is he talking about? Combine performance?
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I like the idea of playing the best players. We havent seen anything from TJ so you cant cut him if you havent seen him…
TJ will be in the mix per coach Jackson.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:47 am
What performance is he talking about? Combine performance?
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I think we need a Hue translator here.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Who is going to start across the oline tommorrow?
Veld-Heyer-Wiz-Carl-Barks
I have Wiz because Satele is nicked..
August 19th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Mike Tyson = Sonny Liston
Once exposed, was never the same.
Kind of like JLH!!!!
Might have been most exciting boxer ever to enter the ring and had he stayed focused who knows but even in his prime don’t see him beating guys like Frazier Ali who were better boxers or Foreman who was an even bigger puncher and bigger man. Hollyfield was grabbing and headbutting to wear the much smaller Tyson out
August 19th, 2011 at 10:49 am
We will get a good look at our first unit on o and d for a whole half. Dhb will shine this game and all the haters will still knit pick at some thing he did. He will do fine raider nation, just watch.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:49 am
They finally freed the West Memphis 3… about GD time too.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Thec07 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Who is going to start across the oline tommorrow?
Veld-Heyer-Wiz-Carl-Barks
I have Wiz because Satele is nicked..
My guess is Veld Loper Wiz Carlisle Barnes
August 19th, 2011 at 10:50 am
KC is going to be our toughest challege in the afc west.
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Disagree.
I look forward to our front 7 going against Cassell and those munchkins Charles and McCluster. Sumbody is going to get HURT!
San Diego is easliy our toughest challenge in the West. Their LT isn’t holding out, and neither is Vincent Jackson.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:50 am
We will get a good look at our first unit on o and d for a whole half. Dhb will shine this game and all the haters will still knit pick at some thing he did. He will do fine raider nation, just watch.
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I hope DHB goes off. They had some timing issues the first game, so that will be resolved.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:51 am
348.M Lonetree Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
BeAlways
I see the same. SD is a much bigger challenge than the boys in KC because the truth is Haley will be tuned out by his players as soon as things start to unravel and Cassel will always crumble once the hits start coming.
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Yeah SD has talent…KC doesnt as much
August 19th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Obviously.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:52 am
I look forward to our front 7 going against Cassell and those munchkins Charles and McCluster. Sumbody is going to get HURT!
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Advantage D Line…No doubt
August 19th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Yeah SD has talent…KC doesnt as much
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SD has talent but lacks coaching…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:53 am
J Hill Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:50 am
KC is going to be our toughest challege in the afc west.
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Disagree.
I look forward to our front 7 going against Cassell and those munchkins Charles and McCluster. Sumbody is going to get HURT!
San Diego is easliy our toughest challenge in the West. Their LT isn’t holding out, and neither is Vincent Jackson.
was just thinking that rivers made scrubs look good, now he has floyd and vjackson
August 19th, 2011 at 10:53 am
VeryFakeAlDavis Why can’t we just have the supplemental draft in international waters? Some of these Somali pirates have pretty decent 40 times.
1 day ago
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LO effin L…..
August 19th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Beecham, did you start the day off with a routine 69 with a couple of hookers and Phil Collins “Take me home” blasting?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:54 am
SD They have a Norv, and a new DCO…Not sure they are running the same defense under manusky…
KC did lose weiss the OCO, he was a diffrence maker for cassell in my opinion.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:54 am
350.Just Fire Baby Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Rock did fight bums. No question about that.
Again, why didn’t Tyson ever fight Burt Cooper, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Riddick Bowe?
He had a fight setup with Hollyfield before jail, and he backed out of it.
Who do you think backed him out?
The people making money off him. They knew he wouldn’t win.
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Tommy Morrison? LOL please stop that one…Ray Mercer would have died fighting Rooney’s Tyson…Burt Cooper gets slept now Riddick Bowe would have been something. Tyson didnt back out of fighting Holyfield…you know thats not true. Had Tyson not threw it away vs Douglas him and Evander would have fought in 1991
August 19th, 2011 at 10:55 am
tattoo designs, etc.
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Ima need to hollar at you on that one.
Website be up any time soon?
August 19th, 2011 at 10:55 am
If the Memphis 3 were black, they would have already been executed, and this wouldn’t even be a story, even with the same circumstances.
August 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
was just thinking that rivers made scrubs look good, now he has floyd and vjackson
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He will have zero time to get the ball down field…
August 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
354.LA to TheBay Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:36 am
B, Sage is bangin, but I’d like to feed her steak dinners everyday for about a month. I needs more junk.
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Man I dont let that thickness schit fool me anymore…..mayne bzies lik her look great naked….I feel vegas on i need a cool face…..tits i aint trippin off as much….they nice and all but not mandatory for the LAMBO express to roll thru
August 19th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I hope DHB goes off….the field
August 19th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Thec07 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
was just thinking that rivers made scrubs look good, now he has floyd and vjackson
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He will have zero time to get the ball down field…
olines beat up?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:00 am
He will have zero time to get the ball down field…
olines beat up?
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So far I havent heard anything on his oline. I am really going off of the fact we attacked him like no other last year…He did otrch us for 4oo plus, and FLoyd wound up with 200 plus however, it seems like we really get up for him, and our dline rotation is looking nice…
August 19th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Thec07 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:00 am
He will have zero time to get the ball down field…
olines beat up?
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So far I havent heard anything on his oline. I am really going off of the fact we attacked him like no other last year…He did otrch us for 4oo plus, and FLoyd wound up with 200 plus however, it seems like we really get up for him, and our dline rotation is looking nice…
VJackson in a contract year but I’m thinking Gates aint gonna be the same so they’re success could rest on the RB from Fresno State doing nothing like he did last year or actually becoming a player. And who get’s Sproles carries?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:03 am
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I hope DHB goes off….the field
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I want DHB to get a lot of looks. The more he plays, the better chance to put up numbers or get rocked and injured. Sink or swim. Worst case is him on the sidelines drinking gatorade. Last man standing.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I think VJackson is going to have a monster year. I’m gonna pick him in all my fantasy drafts. Contract year and P Rivers, and no suspensions.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Mike Tyson in his prime was the most spectacular boxer in recent history.
Like Ali, he was and is “The People’s Champ” regardless of getting their @sses kicked.
Movies, commercials, documentaries etc.
We can name a number of boxers from then thru now who were more successful in the ring but they didn’t, don’t & won’t have the star power of Mike Tyson.
Black shorts, Black boots, no socks, no robe
just a cut up terry cloth towel
coming out to Redman “Time Time for some Time for some action..!”
When has boxing been more fun since then?
Opinionated purist forget the value of fun and excitement in sports.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am
small waist and is sitting on it…
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LOL!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:08 am
278.DutchRaider77 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Does anybody think the Pryor suspension is BS? If Pryor is suspened, why isn’t Reggie Bush?
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I don’t think it is out of line. Pryor was suspended 5 games but would still have been allowed to play if he hadn’t dropped out, so he wasn’t technically eligible for the supplemental draft. The NFL bent over backwards to find a way to allow the young man to get into the NFL a year early, so in effect the NFL saved the man 9 game checks. He should be praising the NFL.
Besides, it cost him some money, but it isn’t like he would actually have played during the first five games.
Totally different case than Bush.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I believe something happened prior to the first fight and then Tyson went to jail…not sure if it was Tyson or Holyfield getting hurt training…too long ago to remember. But I was dying laughing at that Peter whatever guy…the first opponent after Tyson came out of jail!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:09 am
guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:38 am
I hope they target DHB a bunch in this upcoming game against the Niners.
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I hope Glo continues to target the guy with single coverage. If that happens to be DHB, then yeah, I’m with it.
The last thing I want to see is the ball forced to DHB to prove a point. Reminds me of the Az game last year.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Is there a play where he showed good ball skills?
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You have time to go to the film right quick?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Tyson is documented as having suffered from mental illness. It’s amazing he accomplished as much as he did considering his mental condition and his background. Had he gotten better treatment earlier in his life, he’d probably be one of the greatest fighters in history.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:12 am
And I agree Raider j,
That was when boxing was the most fun to watch. Many say that Manny Pacquio is bringing that excitement back, and don’t get me wrong, I like Manny because he is a very classy guy, but he only brought the Filipino community back into boxing (and hey, my kids are Filipino so its all good)…but nothing brought back boxing like Tyson did! In my opinion of course!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:14 am
come on J, dude cam still play, he left because it was a numbers game, he would have been squeezed out…
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The Raiders didn’t feel that JLH was better than Nicki Miller.
RRS and Young B keep telling me that Nicki Miller is garbage.
If Nicki is garbage, that has to mean that players who aren’t as good as him are also garbage. In fact, HOT garbage, right?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
And now back to Raider Football…
Should we make another who’s going to score first again? This time I hope it’s not Janno!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Couldn’t agree more Raider J.
Tyson even when he was bad was good. It was a train wreck you just had to see. Boxing hasn’t been the same since. Only Ali was a better showman.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:16 am
407.guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Couldn’t agree more Raider J.
Tyson even when he was bad was good. It was a train wreck you just had to see. Boxing hasn’t been the same since. Only Ali was a better showman.
yup and those of us old enough to see Ali in his prime…he was something to watch!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Right Hwnrdr,
After Pacquiao / Mayweather boxing is done. They’re gonna have to fight 3 good matches to keep boxing interesting at all.
…and I’m going ol’ school with CBS sports
Jayne Kennedy. total package
August 19th, 2011 at 11:17 am
They need to do a movie on Tyson’s life someday when he’s worn down and only has a few marbles left. It’d be good.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am
and I’m going ol’ school with CBS sports
Jayne Kennedy. total package
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Indeed…
August 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am
There is a Tyson movie that was made like what? Mid to late 90’s. However, they do need to make a better one!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:20 am
guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I think VJackson is going to have a monster year. I’m gonna pick him in all my fantasy drafts. Contract year and P Rivers, and no suspensions.
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I know you want to win and all however, i could never bring myself to take any SD chargers..
August 19th, 2011 at 11:23 am
A locker-room fight between veteran Chiefs running back Thomas Jones and first-round draft pick Jonathan Baldwin has left the rookie receiver doubtful for the rest of the preseason with a wrist injury, a team source confirmed Friday to ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
YAY!!!! the queefs are fighting amongst themselves hehe..
August 19th, 2011 at 11:23 am
If Nicki is garbage, that has to mean that players who aren’t as good as him are also garbage. In fact, HOT garbage, right?
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Personally I dont think either one is garbage…
August 19th, 2011 at 11:25 am
jlh=not nfl material
nmiller=not nfl material
dhb= not college level material
August 19th, 2011 at 11:25 am
know you want to win and all however, i could never bring myself to take any SD chargers..
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I know what u mean….I can respect that, even admire it.
But the only team I hate with a passion. I mean hate to hell is the Broncos. I’d never have one of them donkeys on my team.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:26 am
388.Sullivan44 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 10:55 am
If the Memphis 3 were black, they would have already been executed, and this wouldn’t even be a story, even with the same circumstances.
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Yeah, you NEVER race bait MR.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Spike Lee should make a Tyson movie.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am
know you want to win and all however, i could never bring myself to take any SD chargers..
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I know what u mean….I can respect that, even admire it.
But the only team I hate with a passion. I mean hate to hell is the Broncos. I’d never have one of them donkeys on my team
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i picked up brandon lloyd last season and mike tolbert.. i won 1st place with that team..
August 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Tyson was so feared that Michael Spinks had to smoke a joint before he came out to face Tyson. That was Tyson at his best.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Bcz, don’t start one of your usual race fights, ok? Just because somebody makes a point doesn’t mean you have to use it as a reason to blow things out of proportion.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:29 am
AFC west may come down to Week 17 sd @ OAK
Chiefs last 7 games are brutal. I dont expect much from Denver but a road division game is always tough.
11 Mon, Nov 21 @New England 8:30 PM
12 Sun, Nov 27 vsPittsburgh 8:20 PM
13 Sun, Dec 4 @Chicago 1:00 PM
14 Sun, Dec 11 @New York J 1:00 PM
15 Sun, Dec 18 vsGreen Bay 1:00 PM
16 Sat, Dec 24 vsOakland 1:00 PM
17 Sun, Jan 1 @Denver 4:15 PM
August 19th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Last year, I won with Darren McFadden in the rounds. Every one of my league mates laughed and called me a Raider homer. But I left them all in the dust and paired up Adrian Peterson and DMC for a championship.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Raider J, we got a brutal schedule too. It won’t matter if we have an easy homestretch if we don’t win those first 2 home games or at least salvage a split.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
422.Sullivan44 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Bcz, don’t start one of your usual race fights, ok? Just because somebody makes a point doesn’t mean you have to use it as a reason to blow things out of proportion.
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My usual race fights? Ok. Show me the transcripts of all MY race fights. You fkn hypocrite. You really should just go kill yourself.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
you guys are pitiful.. this is supposed to be a football blog. sadly all i ever see in here is:
1. something to do with racism
2. something to do with religion/anti-religion
3. something to do with politics
4. something to do with “im gonna beat your a$$”
5. something to do with another sport
im a raider football fan.. im in here to talk about raider football.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:32 am
The 1st Holyfield fight was Evander at his dirty best with headbutting throughout the bout and the official not warning or deducting points which led to the rematch in which Tyson went ballistic because the ref would not or could stop Holyfields dirty tactics so Mike made a snack of Evanders ear. Wrong of Mike but he snapped in anger. To this day, Holyfield is one of the dirtiest fighters in Boxing.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:34 am
blah blahhhhhhhhaaaaaaa blllllllaaaaaaaaaa
boxing boxing boxing…
who gives a holy $hit?!?!?!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
416.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:25 am
jlh=not nfl material
nmiller=not nfl material
dhb= not college level material
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JLH is NFL material…the other two not so much
August 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
im a raider football fan.. im in here to talk about raider football.
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Normally I agree, the WM3 is very topical at the moment and something that I have followed very closely throughout the process. I just commented that they were freed today, MR in his usual troll ways tried to turn it into a racial discussion, which I am not interested in.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
boooohooooo booohoooo booohooooo
racism racism racism..
who gives a holy $hit?!?!?!?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:36 am
J-Raider dont be on here trying to stomp your foot down……we talk Raiders alot here and sometimes go off a bit but you need to sit back and enjoy young dude….quit trippin or get to another site….we wont miss you
August 19th, 2011 at 11:36 am
J,
Website may be a month or two away. I had always got my work on referrals from folks at the day job and friends, friends of friends, etc.
Trying to branch out, make a career out of this. I’m gonna get more recent work in my buddy’s photobucket account, so that may work in the meantime.
I’ll let you know.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:37 am
430.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
416.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:25 am
jlh=not nfl material
nmiller=not nfl material
dhb= not college level material
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JLH is NFL material…the other two not so much
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maybe if he played for a team like the saints or colts.. otherwise this guy always ends up getting decked!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Too many regulars on here that know eachother too well to just talk Raider football ALL the time…
August 19th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Bcz, back to football, ok? we’re not going to have one of your usual race summits. We all know how you feel about minorities. Just let it go, alright?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
432.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
boooohooooo booohoooo booohooooo
racism racism racism..
who gives a holy $hit?!?!?!?
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Anyone here have the link to J-Raider being appointed moderator or being put in charge of content? LMFAO
August 19th, 2011 at 11:42 am
DHB was a first round prospect. Even as a PROJECT, he was STILL rated by EVERYONE as a first rounder.
DHB had 3 balls thrown his way in the last game, and he only caught one. You’ll have some folks try and tell us that DHB catches less than half his passes and say he sucks.
Nevermind that one of the passes was batted down at the LOS, and the other one was terribly underthrown.
I know, I know … He sucks.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:43 am
437.Sullivan44 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Bcz, back to football, ok? we’re not going to have one of your usual race summits. We all know how you feel about minorities. Just let it go, alright?
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Fck you dude I will not let it go. You are calling me a racist and thats fckin bullschit. Go ahead smart guy. Prove me wrong. Show all my racist rants.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:44 am
433.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:36 am
J-Raider dont be on here trying to stomp your foot down……we talk Raiders alot here and sometimes go off a bit but you need to sit back and enjoy young dude….quit trippin or get to another site….we wont miss you
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listen here, son, i dont know who you are and you certainly dont know who i am.. if you think im trying to “stomp” a foot down then your greatly mistaken.. im trying to get people on topic(which the Only topic in here should be football) because we are supposed to be raider fans, the only true football fans.. talking about fighting and religion and racism, sounds like you guys should be on dr. phil or jerry springer show or both! stop acting like you run the place man.. the only person in here that put their foot down was you when you decided to be a d!ck.. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Why not put DHB out there and expose him as sub-college level or make us all eat crow. The last thing we need is him sitting on the sidelines with a toothache, and we’ll never know one way or the other.
It’s ch!t or get off the pot time
August 19th, 2011 at 11:44 am
435.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:37 am
430.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
416.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:25 am
jlh=not nfl material
nmiller=not nfl material
dhb= not college level material
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JLH is NFL material…the other two not so much
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maybe if he played for a team like the saints or colts.. otherwise this guy always ends up getting decked!!!
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Everyone on Eagles will be getting decked…..so whats the issue? Football you get smacked
August 19th, 2011 at 11:45 am
J, Soup and DHB are just not on the same page. It’s f’ed up, cause the times that DHB is WIDE open, Soup dumps it off or underthrows him.
I guess DHB has dropped enough of the tougher passes that Jason isn’t as willing to look his way as often as he should.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:47 am
441.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:44 am
433.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:36 am
J-Raider dont be on here trying to stomp your foot down……we talk Raiders alot here and sometimes go off a bit but you need to sit back and enjoy young dude….quit trippin or get to another site….we wont miss you
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listen here, son, i dont know who you are and you certainly dont know who i am.. if you think im trying to “stomp” a foot down then your greatly mistaken.. im trying to get people on topic(which the Only topic in here should be football) because we are supposed to be raider fans, the only true football fans.. talking about fighting and religion and racism, sounds like you guys should be on dr. phil or jerry springer show or both! stop acting like you run the place man.. the only person in here that put their foot down was you when you decided to be a d!ck.. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
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Oh shut up with this lil sissified rant…..we mostly talk football on here but can be a little versatile and talk on other topics….hell you see analysts and commentators do it all the time so what is your malfunction Officer Pyle?
Hey I dont run the site I just put you jcats in your place…there are 3 type of Raiders on here Elder statesmen, semi pros and SOLDIERS……Guess which unit i’m apart of?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am
You’d love to see more of that catch that Bey had against Seattle. Textbook. Perfect throw too.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Stomp your foot J Raider!
We are not in the offseason anymore and there is WAY too much goinz on with da Raiders to be on this other buhhllshhh.
Fuggghhh ALL the non Raider related talk!
Don’t feed the trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:49 am
there are 3 type of Raiders on here Elder statesmen, semi pros and SOLDIERS……Guess which unit i’m apart of?
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Hey soldier, you forgot the 4th type. The fkn loser a$s trolls like MR
August 19th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Hey I dont run the site I just put you jcats in your place…there are 3 type of Raiders on here Elder statesmen, semi pros and SOLDIERS……Guess which unit i’m apart of?
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im gonna guess your a jcat?
August 19th, 2011 at 11:50 am
August 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Everyone on Eagles will be getting decked…..so whats the issue? Football you get smacked
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the quarterback can throw the football away from hard hitting contact.. kinda like how j russel didnt do when he threw the ball to jlh all the time..
August 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am
J-Raider,
Ron Dayne was a slow RB. 100+ yards on us.
Arian Foster posted times of 4.73 and 4.69 seconds at his pro-day. 100+ yards in 3 quarters last year.
Dominic Rhodes – 98 yards on 5.8 per carry.
Rashad Jennings – 100+ yards on 5 carries.
Our run defense is really, really, really bad – be it a speed back or a slower power back.
and we brought them all back.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Why not put DHB out there and expose him as sub-college level or make us all eat crow.
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DHB will start this weekend and play as long as the ones do.
If he is looking anything like a college level player, he’ll play even longer with Boeller or whoever the backup is.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Time to check out Chekwa!
Hope he plays well this week end. We need the secondary help…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
August 19th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I guess DHB has dropped enough of the tougher passes that Jason isn’t as willing to look his way as often as he should.
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I have read articles that say DHB is not running his routes right (Sloppy)? Not sure if it is correct or not? Always appeared that the dude tried hard from the reports from Jerry? Any of our semi-pros know one way or another.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
I agree…that pass to JLH over the middle at the Monday Night almost got JLH’s head taken off! Led him into a hit!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:55 am
452.alex7 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am
J-Raider,
Ron Dayne was a slow RB. 100+ yards on us.
Arian Foster posted times of 4.73 and 4.69 seconds at his pro-day. 100+ yards in 3 quarters last year.
Dominic Rhodes – 98 yards on 5.8 per carry.
Rashad Jennings – 100+ yards on 5 carries.
Our run defense is really, really, really bad – be it a speed back or a slower power back.
and we brought them all back.
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run d has been a problem since 2003 i agree. as far as afoster tho, he is much faster now than his pro day speed.. he outran all our secondary last year.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:55 am
449.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Hey I dont run the site I just put you jcats in your place…there are 3 type of Raiders on here Elder statesmen, semi pros and SOLDIERS……Guess which unit i’m apart of?
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im gonna guess your a jcat?
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Spoken like a true jcat…….dismissed you are lil guy…..go back to the kiddie pool with your shallow ass
August 19th, 2011 at 11:57 am
another thing you have to look at is how many times we actually contain the run tho.. we have the core defense to do it, we just give up one or two big runs and it blows our run d out of proportion..
August 19th, 2011 at 11:57 am
@alex7
So who do you want to cut:
Kelly?
Seymour?
Houston?
Shaunassy?
Wimbley?
McClain?
Not even going to list Groves…
August 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
I’ve got a feeling Pryor knows how to party serious, so I’m approving grabbing him on Mon:
Bill Williamson, SI
In the next four days, I expect you will be hearing his name often connected to Oakland. It has already been happening for months. Many national analysts have speculated the Raiders could take him, and the Oakland Tribune has beaten the drum for Oakland to take him.
The Raiders could surely use a young quarterback and Pryor is supremely athletic, which could attract owner Al Davis.
Year of the Quarterback
ESPN has dedicated 2011 to examining one of the most crucial positions in all of sports — the quarterback.
Year of the QB »
But the Raiders don’t have a second- or fourth-round pick next year, so they could stay away. But don’t discount this caveat: Oakland will likely get two third-round compensatory picks for the losses of Nnamdi Asomugha and Zach Miller. It should also get a decent comp pick for the loss of Robert Gallery.
Those choices can’t be used on Pryor, but they do give the Raiders some wiggle room if they want to play loose with a pick now.
August 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Spoken like a true jcat…….dismissed you are lil guy…..go back to the kiddie pool with your shallow ass
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c’mon that all you got ???? kiddie pool? shallow ass? i speak it when i see it JCAT!
August 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Has anyone else noticed the reports concerning DHB from Viterio(?) from the Chron and Guitereez(?) from Comcast are generally totally different and much more positive than the reports from Steve and Jer.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
The Arian Foster thing kills me…If these football experts/coaching are so gifted? How did Arian Foster stay on the Texans practice squad a whole year?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Dutch,
DHB was a track guy who showed up at Maryland and started playing football. If his routes aren’t crisp, it’s likely due to his inexperience, and not due to being lazy.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Has anyone else noticed the reports concerning DHB from Viterio(?) from the Chron and Guitereez(?) from Comcast are generally totally different and much more positive than the reports from Steve and Jer.
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I think its cuz Steve/Jer have seen this act before. He’s good in practice and then the suxor on game day.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
So have the other two.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
DHB was a track guy who showed up at Maryland and started playing football. If his routes aren’t crisp, it’s likely due to his inexperience, and not due to being lazy.
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He’s 3 years in now, when can we take away the inexperience excuse?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Raider J, we got a brutal schedule too. It won’t matter if we have an easy homestretch if we don’t win those first 2 home games or at least salvage a split.
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Raiders can lose to NYJ & NE (of course I hope not) as long as they beat BUF & MIA
Expected wins 9+
AFC west 4+
AFC east 2
NFC north 2+
cle/hou 1+
August 19th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
ill be back later to talk some raider football with you guys.. that is if thats what yall are talking about.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
August 19th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I’ve always liked Jerry above them all, because he is very fair and doesn’t sugarcoat things. That chat with Cockran….seems like he’s too excited. I don’t think Jerry ever gets that way. It’s good to temper optimism.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Dutch, Foster had knee and thigh injuries his senior season at Tennessee, and his production compared to his junior year dropped off sharply.
Combine that with his 4.7 40-times at his pro day, and getting in legal trouble at Tennessee, and it’s not too surprising that he went undrafted.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Similar to LaGarret Blount.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Gutty and that Vitto guy don’t have the field rep as Cork or Jer. They can afford to be rah rah dudes.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
OK
Lets see what b Campbell can do…. eager to se Taiwan Jones..
August 19th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Guest, taking the entire NFL as a bell-curve, you’ll have guys who are excellent route-runners on one end, and sloppy route runners on the other, regardless of their experience.
Right now DHB might be towards the bottom half. His inexperience in high school might be a partial reason. Not everyone can become excellent, regardless of the amount of coaching they receive.
Guys who didn’t grow up playing a position, however, at least have a better chance of eventually improving.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
alex7 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Guest, taking the entire NFL as a bell-curve, you’ll have guys who are excellent route-runners on one end, and sloppy route runners on the other, regardless of their experience.
Right now DHB might be towards the bottom half. His inexperience in high school might be a partial reason. Not everyone can become excellent, regardless of the amount of coaching they receive.
Guys who didn’t grow up playing a position, however, at least have a better chance of eventually improving.
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You make a point that sheds light on DHB being a guy that never had the instincts to begin with of just catching a ball. Not so sure it has so much to do with routes, he can’t react to a non-perfectly thrown ball.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Those two aren’t any different than Jer and Steve.Gutty used to work for the Sac Bee and now reports for Comcast and Vitto works for the SF Chronicle.I’d say they have as much rep as Jer and Steve.It could possibly be they don’t have the biases of S & J.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Taiwan Jones strikes me as McFadden Lite. He should do stuff we’re afraid to do with Darren, like return punts and kicks and take passes over the middle.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I highly doubt the Raiders can win 2 games vs the Packers, Bears, Vikings, and Lions.
Right now, they would rightfully be be underdogs in all of those.
Our QB is tied for worst on that list, our passing game last, and our run defense last.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Vikings an Lions?
I know Detroit won 4 in a row to close the season out, but how many did they lose before that?
I think they’ll be a better team, but they strike me like Jacksonville last year. 8-8 kind of team still missing some pieces.
Vikings cleaned house a bit but lost their best WR and now have McNabb, who’s seen his better days already.
If they run the ball 60 times, they’ll have a decent shot.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Yeah Guest, DHB might be pretty dang good with a top-notch QB in a spread offense.
Taiwan Jones is injury-prone, having played vs some light competition at Eastern Washington. He’ll be a formidable back-up to DMac on passing downs, and get his share of draws, screens, and end-arounds if Hue gets creative.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Taiwan Jones at practice, as is center Samson Satele
August 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Taiwan Jones at practice, as is center Samson Satele
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Wonder if they’re gonna go in full team drills.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
I can’t remember the last time we beat a non-afc west team with a top RB. Maybe Philly a few years ago, but they just don’t run the ball much.
If they aren’t getting blown out early, and can run A.P. his normal 28 times, we’re in trouble.
If we compare Detroit to Jacksonville, then yeah, they should be favorites vs us. Both of those teams played much tougher competition last year, Detroit has a top-notch QB, a better D than us, top-2 WR that should give us fits, and a solid front 4 to slow up our run game.
Will be a fun game, looking forward to seeing Suh possibly destroy our C/Gs, and the combo of Stafford/Calvin.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
483.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Taiwan Jones at practice, as is center Samson Satele
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Good news. I am really excited about Taiwan.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
470.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
ill be back later to talk some raider football with you guys.. that is if thats what yall are talking about.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hurry back!!! Your insight will be missed. Not!!! lol
August 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
463.lefty12 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Has anyone else noticed the reports concerning DHB from Viterio(?) from the Chron and Guitereez(?) from Comcast are generally totally different and much more positive than the reports from Steve and Jer.
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Which reports translate to what we see on the field? Were they positive on DHB last year too?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Will be a fun game, looking forward to seeing Suh possibly destroy our C/Gs, and the combo of Stafford/Calvin.
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Seriously? You call yourself a Raiders fan and say you are looking forward to someone else destroying our line? Troll
August 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Did you guys see the Article on Harbaugh? Good stuff
Jim Harbaugh’s NFL coaching career began with Oakland Raiders
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_18711103
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The realization came during a tense team meeting in 2003, when a veteran Raiders player rose from his seat to launch a verbal assault on head coach Bill Callahan. “It began as a discussion,” Gannon recounted, “and it kind of escalated.”
The meeting room fell silent. Gannon thought punches might be thrown.
And then Harbaugh got up.
“Now, keep in mind that Jim was the youngest person on the staff. You had people in that room with more than 30 years of coaching experience,” the quarterback recalled. “But it was Jim who stood up and confronted the player.
“He said, ‘You’re wrong. And you don’t talk to coaches like that. You need to sit down.’
“And Jim was right. The player was way out of line.”
The player backed off. Order was restored. The meeting resumed. “I think the situation speaks a little to the staff we had at the time,” Gannon said, “but it also spoke volumes about Jim Harbaugh.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I’m glad Jackson was real about Satele. He really fudges about little nicks.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
462.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Spoken like a true jcat…….dismissed you are lil guy…..go back to the kiddie pool with your shallow ass
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c’mon that all you got ???? kiddie pool? shallow ass? i speak it when i see it JCAT!
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What? Look here you imbecile….trying to match tit for tat with me is futile……I call folks jcats on here so you using my slap is you paying tribute to me…..JCAT!……That is why J starts off your handle JcatFaider
I know the kiddie pool and shallow connection doesnt register with mental midgets but let me help ya out my brain cell lacking friend……kiddie pools are shallow….not deep….get it? got it? You’ll never be good
August 19th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
KC Rookie WR hurts hand in lockerroom fight with RB T. Jones.
haaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
August 19th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
487.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
470.J-Raider Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
ill be back later to talk some raider football with you guys.. that is if thats what yall are talking about.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hurry back!!! Your insight will be missed. Not!!! lol
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I’ll second that
August 19th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
No they weren’t.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
483.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Taiwan Jones at practice, as is center Samson Satele
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We must be itching to go whip sum niner ass
August 19th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Will be a fun game, looking forward to seeing Suh possibly destroy our C/Gs, and the combo of Stafford/Calvin.
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U like root canals 2?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
New O Line:
Veldheer, Wiz, Satelleellii, Barksdale, Campbell
August 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I want see if Taiwan is going to be another Chris Johnson…see him in open space…see him break the niners safeties ankles….
Can’t wait.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Todays line at practice-Veldheer,Loper,Sammy,CC,Barnes.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
The funny thing is if Wiz turns out to be a great Gaurd(doubtful) we still need to draft a C next year to keep the line close in age.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
479. More plays at WR for V12 if T. Jones can return some kicks & punts
480. I like Raiders DLine v. Bears, Vikes & Det
August 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Can the Raiders use a compensatory pick on the sup draft?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
The BEST new run of the 2011 NFL season:
EVERY SCORE IS AUTOMATICALLY REVIEWED FOR CORRECT CALL – NO CHALLENGE NECESSARY.
This will really help improve the overall game results.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
rule
August 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Ryan Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Can the Raiders use a compensatory pick on the sup draft?
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NO
August 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
503. No, cant use 2012 comp pick on 2011 sup draft
August 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
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oh boy
August 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Alex7 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Yeah Guest, DHB might be pretty dang good with a top-notch QB in a spread offense.
Taiwan Jones is injury-prone, having played vs some light competition at Eastern Washington. He’ll be a formidable back-up to DMac on passing downs, and get his share of draws, screens, and end-arounds if Hue gets creative.
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Why would you replace your BEST reciever on passing downs?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
disagree JB. This will only add more dead time for idiot announcing crew to fumble with tired catchphrases and hyperbole.
breaks up the the rhythm of the game imo.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
DHB!!!! Oh…through his hands. Tough play
get used to hearing that a lot this year.
I mean it went through his hands, how can you not see that it was a tough play, cmon mayne!
August 19th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
JB,possibly,but how many times have you been watching a game and are positive the replay while right a wrong call but it doesn’t happen?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Edwards drops in nice touch pass to McGee on right sideline — good example of why he will likely beat out Boller for No. 2
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Boller great touch pass to Eddie McGee. Sterling Moore has no chance on play.
so which one is it?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Why dont the raiders have a 2 nd round pick next year? ? Who did we give it to?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Always liked Edwards over Boller.
Boller is str8 garbage. Edwards is a rung or 2 up from garbage.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
DHB finds soft spot in middle of zone, nice catch, nice route.
1 minute ago
August 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
That is exactly the type of post by Corkran I’m talking about.How often is it reported when any other WR misses a tough catch,or do the others catch every pass thrown their way?I’m not saying who is right or wrong,just pointing out the differences in the reporting.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
DHB shows good hands on 25-yard pass across middle … LBs no shot at covering Reece out of the backfield
force feed him since he might start no matter what his performance is
August 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Edwards may be better than Campbell.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
reece ausberry dmac, mismatches all day
August 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Edwards may be better than Campbell.
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for this offense, it’s a toss up. Neither has a deep ball.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Steve has DHB low on his projected WR depth chart. Since, he reads this blog, he may focus posts on DHB because so many bloggers do
August 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Bring back Drew Carter
August 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
alex7 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I highly doubt the Raiders can win 2 games vs the Packers, Bears, Vikings, and Lions.
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The Vikings????
Cmon!!!!!!
How on earth would we be underdogs to the Lions at home?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
I’d like to see more use of Reece. If you have a mismatch consistently, enforce it and force the DC to scheme against Reece. That opens up space for the wideouts and the TE’s. Go to him 3 plays in a row, until they get sick of it.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
My bad on earlier pass to McGee – it was Boller. I was watching B Campbell get some first-team snaps at RG
August 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Guest123 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Edwards may be better than Campbell.
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for this offense, it’s a toss up. Neither has a deep ball.
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So then it comes down to making quick intelligent decisions, and accurate passes right? I’ll take Edwards thank you!
August 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
WMcFadden’s new nickname = “the Drum” – Everybody gets to beat him. Don’t think he’s going to make the 53.
August 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
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VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
To clarify, Boller is No. 2 now but I don’t think he will be for long
August 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I can’t remember the last time we beat a non-afc west team with a top RB. Maybe Philly a few years ago, but they just don’t run the ball much.
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Rams, Steven Jackson?
August 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
So then it comes down to making quick intelligent decisions, and accurate passes right? I’ll take Edwards thank you!
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Not so fast! Soup can make quick intelligent decisions as well, and I’m glad he’s on our team. Him and Edwards are interchangeable. Boller is a wasted roster spot, I’d prefer to give to Pryor.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
JB Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
WMcFadden’s new nickname = “the Drum” – Everybody gets to beat him. Don’t think he’s going to make the 53.
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This looks so much like a tweet. I was hoping this was a copy/paste from Cork or Tafur. If only.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Anybody see Ausberry block yet?
August 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Raiders OLine will dominate this season:
Vehldeer LT
Loper at LG or Carlisle at RG w/ Wisniewski at the other
Satele at Center
Barksdale at RT
ideal line:
Barksdale-LT Wisniewski-LG Vehldeer-C Schuening-RG Campbell-RT
August 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
If you don’t see any practice tweets from me about Denarius Moore, assume he’s making catches.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
OLine> Raiders need to keep 11 on 53 man roster:
Vehldeer LT/C
Loper- G
Carlisle-RG
Satele- C/G
Barnes- RT/LT/TE
Wisniewski-G/C
Campbell-RG/RT
Schuening-G
Heyer- G/T
Barksdale RT/LT
Lamaak-T
if another team wants one of these linemen they can give us a draft pick!
August 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Of course people are taking shots at soup again. The notion that edwards and JC are interchangeable is a complete joke!
To say JC doesnt have a deep ball is retarded. People pick on a few under throws to make this case. Yet they ignore the deep balls last year that won big games for us, not to mention perfectly placed bombs that have been dropped. At least two of the under throws were a direct result of being hit as he threw the ball. that includes one from last weeks game. of course people leave that fact out in order to propagate the myth that he cant throw deep.
There is no throw that JC doesnt have in his bag. If JC couldnt throw deep he wouldnt be starting for the silver and black in this offense.
For the record all qbs’ will at times under throw a deep pass, sometimes purposely. if the biggest knock on the qb is ” he under throws the ball sometimes” then i think you have a pretty good qb situation. You must have missed the reports of campbell throwing deep all through camp.
Impostor fans chew on this!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VRO4GPU89A
August 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Who the hell is Chad Jackson? Is he new to the Raiders?
August 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
VittorioTafur If you don’t see any practice tweets from me about Denarius Moore, assume he’s making catches.
15 minutes ago
August 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
DHB finds soft spot in middle of zone, nice catch, nice route.
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
DHB shows good hands on 25-yard pass across middle
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Good job young man!
Keep working at it!
August 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Inoneword scooped me……
August 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
VittorioTafur QBs and WRs have looked good at camp as OC Al Saunders has had definite effect on vertical passing game
about 1 hour ago
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Sweet!
August 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
VittorioTafur QBs and WRs have looked good at camp as OC Al Saunders has had definite effect on vertical passing game
about 1 hour ago
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Sweet!
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That could be a two edged sword. Because the DB’s certainly alarmed me last week. But, let’s hope so.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
VittorioTafur Jackson wearing his lucky walk-through Slick Watts headband
about 1 hour ago
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lol
August 19th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Raidertay, Al Davis thought he was Chad Johnson. To be serious, he was a 2nd round bust for the Pats like 3 or 4 years ago. I think injuries hurt him his first couple seasons.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Could it be that with Sanders our young WRs are finally getting the coaching they have needed.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
a few things im excited to see.
The offensive line. Veldeheer is flying under the radar this year. He looked incredible last week against former speed demon pass rusher joey porter, how will he fare against top flight speed guy aldon smith and and power rusher justin smith. What will b campbell do? Is he an upgrade over carlisle, whom the blog loves? I think carlisle is a washed up weakling that has been able to look good because the rest of the line has been so bad. Is carlisle serviceable? Yes. Should he be replaced as soon as possible, absolutely. With wiz in the middle and barksdale at tackle all of a sudden we may have an over powering line set to dominant for years to come we just need time to coache them up and gel. Valdeheer- heyer-wiz-campbell-barksdale. the best o-line we have seen since our sb run
August 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Van dyke and chekwa get their chance to shine along with stevie brown. I actually think chekwa was the most nfl ready corner we drafted, and van dyke has the tools to be better than area 21 one day. he has a long way to go but he is faster, same body type and has flashed the ability to absolutely blanket the best wrs in the game. If he learns to attack the ball in flight you will forget nam ever played here after a year or two. speedd kills, cant be coached, and our guys are at the top of the nfl in that category.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
It’s looking like the coaching staff is going to give Veldheer – Wiz – Satele – Campbell – Barksdale a hard look as the potential starting offensive line.
It’ll be interesting to see if the Raiders keep Carlisle around as a somewhat pricey backup if Campbell earns a starting spot.
I would be very impressive to see Campbell snag a starting role after missing so much time. Either he dominates at RG, or there’s an “organizational mandate”.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Can any body name a faster raider receiving corps we have had in the past compared to what we have now
August 19th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
DHB and moore will get plenty of reps, im confident that both players will play well. Moore has been unreal to this point. DHB seems that he is finally comfortable, and polished enough to make it happen on game day. the chemistry between he and JC will prove crucial, as JC looks for DHB, unlike any qb has in the past.
Is hagan the big possesion guy that the team needs? he has decent speed but his body gives a big target. I think n miller is in danger of losing his spot.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
I don’t think the blog loves CC,people just point out he was probably the best lineman we had last year.Not so much love for him,just distain for the rest of the line.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
543.KoolKell Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
VittorioTafur QBs and WRs have looked good at camp as OC Al Saunders has had definite effect on vertical passing game
about 1 hour ago
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Sweet!
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That could be a two edged sword. Because the DB’s certainly alarmed me last week. But, let’s hope so.
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Shut the fk up Kelly….no one wants to hear ur BS today…go get the towel and shine my shoes
August 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Ya,
Im not a carlisle fan, but we have to keep him if he loses out. He can provide depth and professional leadership for our youngsters. He is guy that in a a pinch lnows the offense and bail us out in the event of an injury or a struggling youngster. i would rather have an expensive alternative that can step in on a moments notice, than a cheap back up that doesnt know our offense, and is an unknown.
Former starters becoming back ups, are better than career back ups in this instance.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
# DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Can any body name a faster raider receiving corps we have had in the past compared to what we have now
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Tim brown, james lofton swervin mervyn fernandez, and jessie hester. Not faster but definitely in second place.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
While I don’t think Carlisle is going to overwhelm anyone with his play at RG, he’s definitely serviceable. Start veteran who knows where to be and what to do. Definitely an overachiever. Helps the rest of the offensive line having a guy like that around.
I just think Carlisle gets way too much flak based solely on his size. Even in a pure power blocking scheme, size isn’t everything. The shift in emphasis towards power blocking shouldn’t the the sole motivation towards benching/cutting Carlisle. If one of the young guys doesn’t step up and earn that spot, then the Raiders would be better served with keeping an intelligent veteran there. Particularly if Barksdale is going to be the RT.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Smart* veteran
August 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Stalking Troll Bootlicker, angry today?
August 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
What the hell is the defense going to do when we line up with DHB, Moore and ford? Then sprinkle in reece and dmac?
Bully ball is about to fugg shid up
August 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
KK, how is the DOW looking ?
August 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I do nto think Mr. Carlisle will be on the team as a back, or Mr. Loper for that matter; definately not both of them; that is $5 million (together- in contract dollars for two back up guards).
Mr. Schuening & Mr. Heyer have proven they are more than capable to back up and possibly start.
@ Tackle Raiders have Mr.Vehldeer at LT, should either Mr. Barksdale or Mr. Campbell out compete him for the LT position then you know we have an all-pro; that being said Joseph or Bruce will be our RT or RG should Mr. Barnes maintain his starting position.
I can see the Raiders keeping Mr. Barnes as a backup tackle, they are far more valuable than guards.
Satele is a lock at center either starter or backup.
I do think either Mr. Parsons, Mr. Lammak, or one of the other UDFA OL make the 53 man roster.
Raiders have 12 OL on their unofficial depth chart.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
KK, how is the DOW looking ?
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How’s yo momma looking, Bootlicker?
Out.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Guy Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Raidertay, Al Davis thought he was Chad Johnson. To be serious, he was a 2nd round bust for the Pats like 3 or 4 years ago. I think injuries hurt him his first couple seasons.
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Thx Guy sounds like he could be something. Weird because I never heard his name b4 seeing a tweet that he was having a great practice.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I was hoping to hear that Parsons was developing into a decent B/U at C/G, but he has not been mentioned. Not a good sign.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I do foresee Mr. Hagan making the 53-man roster; especially if he has another big catch vs. SF like he did vs. AZ.
Locks: Ford, DHB, Moore
all others are on the bubble w/ 2-3 making the cut:
Schilens Murphy Hagan Miller Bodiford Jackson
August 19th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
This your childish way of saying the DOW sucks & pres ding a ling is a failure.
Peace out clown!
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# KoolKell Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
KK, how is the DOW looking ?
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How’s yo momma looking, Bootlicker?
Out.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Linebacking corp is what has me the most concerned.
August 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Could it be that with Sanders our young WRs are finally getting the coaching they have needed.
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Have to agree with ya there Lefty
We can only hope that Sanjay’s duties have been relegated to making sure the footballs are inflated to the proper psi. …….
August 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
under the radar, jarvis moss. This dude as landed in the perfect spot, with coach wauffle and a great d line. he can be an extreme threat to pass rush, but i was impressed with how he played the run last week. he looked very good in his first action with us last year and looks like he is continuing to develop. It appears he was miscast on his former team. I have him over scott
August 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Mistic1…..
Over on Vittorio’s sfgate blog, he did a q&a with Jarvis. Check it out……
August 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
What was J Moss’s previous team?
August 19th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Linebacking corp is what has me the most concerned.
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I agree, super thin there.
Here’s to Goethel having a breakout season.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mista,
Donks. 1st rounder, too.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Here’s the link….
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=94879
August 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Is Moss considered a bust like many of the players we’ve drafted #1 that start/play for other teams?
August 19th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
FRIDAY PRACTICE NOTES
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_pre_season
August 19th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Any player we get from inside our division that turns into something is 100% gravy w/biscuit wheels.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
569. Great article on Moss on Raider nation station. “ones to watch I thionk.
He’;s been thru ALOT and looks finally healthy and ready to kick a-s-s. Depth at DE man.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I do foresee Mr. Hagan making the 53-man roster; especially if he has another big catch vs. SF like he did vs. AZ.
Locks: Ford, DHB, Moore
all others are on the bubble w/ 2-3 making the cut:
Schilens Murphy Hagan Miller Bodiford Jackson
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How in the world did we get deep (yet somewhat inexperienced) at WR? Im still scratching my head.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Moss couldn’t cut it as either a 34 OLB or 43 DE. Looks good in Silver & Black though. Gotta take into account how awful Denver’s D Line has been last few seasons, too. Unfortunately, I think John Fox will change that over the course of a few years. Gotta wonder if they play well enough for him to stick that long though.
August 19th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
I don’t know whether to be excited about the WR play at camp or concerned about the DB play. Probably should be a little of both.
Anyway, this feels way better than reading about Jamarcus Russell at camp.
August 19th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
How many passes does JC connect on at 7-7
What about Kkle and Trent.
JR was doing good if he hit 3 of 7 if I remember my blog reports.
The elite teams hit all 7, at least 6 every time.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:05 am
# BeAlwaysUrselfComittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 4:24 am
Good morning nation. I ate some bad Taco Bell last night. Been running to the toilet all morning which is what I’ll be doing all night while the Raiders are getting their butts kicked!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:13 am
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
What the hell is the offense going to do when we line up with DHB, Moore and ford? These guys suck!!!
whimpy ball is about to fugg shid up
August 20th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Any of you guys ever party with Russian models. Those girls really can hold their alcohol. Time of my life last night on a party boat. My hand played a gig for some porn execs on this yacht. Wish you could have been there.GOOOOOOOOO CHARGERS>>>>>>>>>>>
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