Raiders attend workout of QB Terrelle Pryor
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 am in Oakland Raiders.
A Raiders scout was at the workout of Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor on Saturday morning. Pryor is regarded as the most attractive player of the six entered in the supplemental draft.
Seeing the Raiders scout confirms the team’s interest. Coach Hue Jackson downplayed the Pryor angle when asked about him Thursday.
“I know he plays quarterback,” Jackson said. “I haven’t done much (research). I’m going to coach this team. I’m not worried about him. I have a quarterback. I have two very good backup quarterbacks. Who says he might be on our team? That’s what you said.”
When pressed on the issue, Jackson said:
“Ahhhh. Ahhhh, the supplemental draft is when, men? Monday,” Jackson said. “I can’t speak to that. I’m worried about the 49ers right now.”
Well, the Raiders scout’s presence speaks loud and clear. The fact Pryor posted 40-yard dash times of 4.38 seconds and 4.41 no doubt heightened that interest. It’s important to note that the Raiders keep their own times, so that figure could be even faster.
Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton went No. 1 in this year’s regular draft, and he ran a 4.59 at the NFL Scouting Combine. Pryor’s time is of even more import if a team such as the Raiders have designs on converting him to, say, wide receiver.
Any team that selects Pryor, or any other player in the supplemental draft, would have to forfeit a pick from the 2012 NFL draft in whatever round that player is taken in the supplemental draft.
The Raiders already are without second- and fourth-round picks in the 2012 NFL draft. However, it’s likely that they will gain at least one compensatory pick for a net loss of free agents in 2011.
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August 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Raider NATION
August 20th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Steve – I don’t really understand the “a-ha” of this post. What do you expect, really? It is a matter of prudence to look at any player that can potential have an impact for your ball club. That’s a scout’s job. That’s an organization’s job.
I don’t think any fan, or not, reading this blog would not have expected the Raiders to scout Pryor.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:28 am
I honestly doubt if he would be available by time the Raiders would be willing to pick him. Too many teams in greater need. Miami for instance.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Or Cincy, etc.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:33 am
He has Raider Speed, lmfao!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:34 am
He’s big, alright. And he’s fast. And, he’s very athletic.
Terrible quarterback, though. And please don’t quote me his won/lost record. Ohio State wins games with subpar quarterbacks year in and year out.
So does LSU.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Players I will be interested in today:
BCampbell (although he may not be 100% how good does he look)
DHB (were those glimpses for real?)
Moore (he could climb the charts w/ a great performance)
DVD (just want to see this kid in action more)
Wiz (can he hold down LG)
Barksdale (can he/will he displace Barnes early)
No injuries please!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:42 am
“Tellllllllllllll me…..if ya still caaaaaaarrrrrreeeee about me”
August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Ed Teach<—-Raider to the core
August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Al Davis had to call in Herrera to change his Depends when he heard his time.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Comes with connections for tattoos
August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Takes one to know one, Beauce.
Hope you are well, brother.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Schefter said on the Coleman and Coach show just a few minutes ago that he thinks the only team in the NFL who will put up anything better than a 6th round pick will be the Bengals.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Teams are turned off with him insisting to be QB.
Supposedly people asked him if he will run some routes in his pro day, he said no, and they decided not to showup than.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
If he falls to the 4th he will be ours!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Of course……I just read on PFT that just about every team is at his workout, lol.
That’s what I get for listening to Schefty and ESPN radio!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Plunk,
Heard you talking about your TV watching situation.
I am in the processing of moving, and I called to switch the location of my DirectTV, and ordered an extra DVR box, and they said they considered it thus a new account, and gave me the Sunday ticket for free (I was going to pay $350 for it).
Not sure if you have any of those options, but I would give it a try.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Might as well bring back J.RUSSELL you fool Davis!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
ALBERTBREER on Twitter
Rosenhaus said Pryor will sign, will not appeal suspension, will play any position asked.
13 minutes ago
Pryor jumps 31 inches in the old world vertical.
17 minutes ago
Now this is old school: Pryor doing his vertical against cement wall with hand chalked. Colbert instructing lockerz.com/s/131386686
18 minutes ago
Pryor did the broad jump a few minutes ago, doing the 3-cone drill now.
24 minutes ago
Here’s Tressel saying good bye to Pryor … Had a previous engagement he’s gotta get to … lockerz.com/s/131383903
29 minutes ago
Steelers coach Mike Tomlin just arrived here at the Pryor workout. Stopped and talked to Tressel for a bit.
33 minutes ago
Pryor completed 27-of-39 throws to moving targets. I counted 4 drops. At the end, Rosenhaus asked if scouts wanted to see any other throws.
35 minutes ago
One thing I will say: kid throws it 75-80 yards with ease. For what that’s worth.
42 minutes ago
So far Pryor is 22-for-29 throwing to moving targets. Three of those incompletions were drops. Looks pretty good throwing it.
47 minutes ago
Pryor: 15 throws to moving targets so far. 1 incomplete – a drop.
1 hour ago
Pryor’s just got done throwing at standing targets. Now going into route-running.
1 hour ago
He ran the 40 on FieldTurf.
1 hour ago
Pryor’s second 40 came in slightly slower, still in the 4.4s. TV angles make it look like he’s gliding. Straight on — like a freight train.
1 hour ago
Pryor just ran. One scout had Pryor’s 40 at 4.38.
1 hour ago
Here to work with Pryor: ex-Lions RB Kevin Smith, ex-Lions WR Alric Arnett, ex-Bills RB Andre Anderson.
1 hour ago
Pryor about to run the 40. Once ran 4.32 electronic at Ohio State. We’ll see what he does here.
1 hour ago
Pryor has already taken a physical, will take a Wonderlic for clubs here. He’ll throw somewhere between 50 & 80 passes, do combine testing.
1 hour ago
And a Patriots scout just arrived here at Pryor’s Pro Day, making it 15 teams.
1 hour ago
… Steelers are filming this one from up high in the stadium, tape will be distributed to teams. Timing made it tough for some to attend.
1 hour ago
… Steelers personnel chief Kevin Colbert is here, Mike Tomlin is expected. And former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel is attendance too.
1 hour ago
Just got to Terrelle Pryor’s Pro Day. Teams here: Pitt, Wash, NO, TB, Dal, SD, Buff, Cle, Det, Ind, Phi, Oak, Mia, SF. Primarily area scouts
August 20th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
“if he falls to the 4th he will be ours”-do some of you read the articles before you make your ridiculous comments-we don’t have a 4th.
August 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Some extra clueless bloggers today…Special mention to idiots Dvrick,& Exlaraiderseasonticketholder.If Pryor is there in the 4th, we can’t take him cauz we don’t have a pick in that round.5th round or later, who knows.Someone desperate will take him sooner.
August 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Ed Teach<—- NINER to the core GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:42 am
“Tellllllllllllll me…..if ya still caaaaaaarrrrrreeeee about me” NINERS FOREVER!!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am
NINER NATION !!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Lefty, a 4th is not hard to get at all! Do you really think a lil bump in the road like that is gonna stop Al from getting the athlete he wants? Do you pay attention?
August 20th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Wtf happened to B…
anyways goooooo Raiders!!!!
CODE BLACK
August 20th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
# Smells like beeechum Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Wtf happened to B…
anyways goooooo NINERS!!!!
CODE BLACK
August 20th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Smells like beeechum Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Wtf happened to B…
anyways goooooo NINERS!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Schefter said on the Coleman and Coach show just a few minutes ago that he thinks the only team in the NFL who will put up anything better than a 6th round pick will be the RAIDERS he said the RAiders would be dumb enough to give a 1st.!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Raiders have no need for Terrell Pryor. NOt real excited about drafting players that played one position and slotting them in another.
Again, the Raiders just do not do well with players with character challenges.
Al Davis has focused on bringing in football players that are not malcontents….stick with that strategy
August 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
We’re going to trade someone to get a 4th so we can draft a player who isn’t even eligible for the 1st 5 weeks of the season.Lets hope Davis doesn’t revert to his old ways.Pass,AL
August 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Hey Brien, saw punks challenging you last post..Hah. Some schits going on here lately, someones figured out how to log on with our names. Saw my name on posts I didnt write, and yours and others.
August 20th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
dvrick Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Might as well bring back J.RUSSELL you fool Davis!!
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Pryor and Russell – 2 different people, no comparison there!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
CODE BLACK 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
YEA!!! Whiners going DOWN!
CODE BLACK!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
The best thing that could happen at the supplemental draft is nobody picked him.In all honesty,he shouldn’t even be eligible.The guy is being rewarded for not living up to his word and lying.And we wonder why so many athletes think they are above the law and the rules the rest of society has to live by.
August 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
OSU has never produced a quality NFL QB. Never. Ever. But all it takes like tebow last draft is to have one team fall in love with him.
August 20th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Agreed Lefty
Encourages more bad behavior by rewarding it.
Also, Pete Carroll up in Seattle should have had to sit down for a little bit too.
Raiders need to just stick to the plan as is and coach up the players on the roster. There is no superplayer that is going to fix everything. Get the guys to play like a team with consistency will accomplish far more than the hope of developing a kid like Pryor
August 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
What about all the nonathletes who encourage them to act that way. Pryor is not a bad kid Pryor did what thousands are doing. They sell his likeness his jersey and his name and he doesn’t get a penny. At what point does any human with any dignity ask…….why?
Sure he gets an education and so does the science major on scholarship who can get benefits for his services whenever he wants but there’s no NCAA governing him. It’s damn near slavery and they know it. That’s why the Uni presidents and AD’s and coaches let them get away with it.
Everyone is benefitting formthat kids abilities except him. Yeah he gets drafted based on it but until he can’t buy a girl a hamburger.
August 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I don’t believe you can offer a pick you don’t have, with the intent of obtaining one later.
You either have it or you don’t, for sup draft purposes.
I would offer a 6th round pick and see what happens.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
They sell his likeness his jersey and his name and he doesn’t get a penny. At what point does any human with any dignity ask…….why?
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4 years at Ohio State on full-scholarship will cost around 650K.
So Pryor, got about 150K a year, not including the perks he got busted for.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
High school athletes, DON’T HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE, to play football.
They are more than welcome to try other avenues like Canada, UFL or Arena League if they want.
If they want to go the EASIEST way to the NFL, it is through college, and they have rules.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
souldogdave Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Some extra clueless bloggers today…Special mention to idiots Dvrick,& Exlaraiderseasonticketholder.If Pryor is there in the 4th, we can’t take him cauz we don’t have a pick in that round.5th round or later, who knows.Someone desperate will take him sooner
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Go to your proctologist appointment ahole. Show me where I said we had a 4th. F*cken Idiot. Go back under the rock you crawled out from.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Priesttj,
These kids benefit from playing football on a national stage and getting the opportunity to play in the NFL. If they are also smart, they get a chance to get a great college education with NO DEBT!
And plenty of other college athletes in the lesser sports put in just as much time for their sport with no chance of making cash in a professional league (volleyball, wrestling etc..)
The problem is the schools should be held accountable for making sure their football players can also handle and appreciate the college opportunity and not bring in kids who are only their to play ball and nothing else.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
The system is antiquated and out of stride with the HUGE amounts of money being made off these kids. 50 years ago maybe it was more in line but college athletics is HUGE business now and things need to change to reflect that. If Pryor lied Tressel lied worse and so did everyone else. Tim Brown everyones darling got the same thing but no one blows the whistle on ND because they bring way too much money to the table for everyone. So why kill the golden goose?
August 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
For you guys who are talking about Sunday ticket for 350, this will be my 4th year of having it and I’ve never paid more than 200. I just call them and tell them I don’t want it and the price comes down real fast.
I also just recently heard they are offering it for ps3 now as well.
Anyone who wants to watch the game tonight check out p2p4u dot net, that’s where I’ll be watching it (I’m not in the bay area).
CODE BLACK 2011!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Priest,we could argue the merits of universities making money off athletes all day.I don’t agree with your assessment but that isn’t what I was referring to.He PROMISED he would return for this season as a condition for playing in the Championship game last January.HE GAVE HIS WORD.That is the part that bothers me.BTW,they do receive a monthly allowance,so don’t go off on that slavery bullish!t.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
The Art major and the music majors and everyone else can do whatevr they wnat with impunity. These kids get pimped all over the country everyone making huge dollard excpt the kid. Everyone benefits fromtheir scholarship but they can get funds anyway they want except athletes.
So don’t give me your highbrow crap I’ve heard all a million times. They pimp these kids because they can……….period
College experience………..give me a break we know why those kids go to school and it aint for the college experience………..Get a clue!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
The schools are corrupt in that manner. Schools like Cal Berkeley, Michigan, Stanford, Virginia, Georgia Tech, UNC, etc….elite academic schools..recruiting football and basketball players that are very marginal students.
Truthfully, those schools shouldn’t have good sports programs and should mirror the Ivy League.
Its the Directional Universities and schools with lower admissions standards that should be football and basketball powerhouses.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Priesttj,
No one is forcing these kids to get “pimped” out. If they don’t like college they shouldn’t go.
The NFL is corrupt and should have its own minor league development system like baseball and hockey
August 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
The only people making money on college football are the TV networks, the NCAA, and the teams that go to BCS bowls.
The university of Miami football program was in the hole almost $1.5 million last year.
North Carolina was deciding whether or not to go to their bowl game last year, due to how much money THEY WOULD LOSE BY GOING.
These universities are footing the bill for these athletes, and getting the middle finger back from the players.
http://moneywatch.bnet.com/spending/blog/college-solution/the-dirty-secret-behind-college-football-bowls/1231/
August 20th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Deion Sanders and jerry Rice didn’t go to school fro soem damn college experience they went to be trained for the NFL EXPERIENCE…………….period
August 20th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I think colleges should either recruit students that should be there….or spin off the college revenue teams and run them as a “sponsored” team.
The players can be paid in either cash or scholarships (if they are qualified) or some combination.
That way the schools don’t have to worry about having students who don’t belong there and the kids can focus on the football careers full-time.
Of course only the 5% that make the cut will go pro….
August 20th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Everyone is benefitting formthat kids abilities except him. Yeah he gets drafted based on it but until he can’t buy a girl a hamburger.
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Thats funny. Girls probably stand in line to buy him a hamburger. And besides, guys like him get the red carpet laid down where ever they go. They got it made AND they also got rules to follow.
BTW, He does have the biggest benefit of a scholarship. And a platform to showcase his talent. But like in the real world, there a rules.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
These poor deprived athletes.The difference is while the schools do make money off of them,they more than make up for it when they become pros and make MILLIONS of dollars a year.I guarantee you that science major isn’t going to sign a contract for multi million dollars-and they are much more valuable to society.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Priesttj,
What happens to all those kids that don’t go pro and either don’t graduate or got some B.S major?
No cares about those college athletes. Not even you. They only care that they have the time to perform on the field.
The NFL should be forced to create a minor league for those kids that don’t appreciate a college education.
And this is from someone who played college sports
August 20th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
JFB man have you been snowed……..LOL that is baout as naive as a 5 year old child. It’d due to all the money being spent on every other program at that school which is funded by the football and basketball programs……………YOU ARE WET BEHIND THE EARS son…….
August 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Colleges DON’T MAKE money off football programs, outside of maybe a dozen or so big-time schools.
Women’s soccer is more profitable for the University of New Mexico than their football team.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
We got more Polly Anna’s in here than I thought.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Priesttj,
You play sports in college?
August 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Now college basketball programs??
They all make tons of money.
Only 12 players, and packed arena’s. Coaching staffs 1/5th the size of football staffs.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
AD’s last presser he basically said that the Raiders can’t baby sit high maintenance or special needs players anymore.
When the Raiders drafted T. Jones Hue Jax said that the Raiders couldn’t let a speedy, athletic player slip bye.
Chances of the Raiders putting in a bid for Pryor are 50/50.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
57.priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
JFB man have you been snowed……..LOL that is baout as naive as a 5 year old child. It’d due to all the money being spent on every other program at that school which is funded by the football and basketball programs……………YOU ARE WET BEHIND THE EARS son…….
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Game day, liquor day. You really makin sense. Careful not to sound to clueless.
Good thing football and basketball can fund other programs, not everyone can play football.
Bo Jackson had tremendous ethics. His standard should be the one all these athletes should have their bar set at.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Priest,are you really condoning the fact that Pryor gave his word-PROMISED-he would return so he could play in the championship game and then backed out.He lied.To me one of the main virtues a person can have is giving their word-like a handshake deal.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Polly Anna my backside.
You got some people that work two jobs just to pay that tuition and go to school. Taking on 150K in debt..
Can’t pay for a night out on the town….boohoo.
The school feeds you, houses you and provides free tuition at an elite academic institution.
Poll 1 billion people worldwide and that’s a fantastic offer.
The real issue is that these kids have limited family support and are surrounded by hanger ons with a “here an now” mentality to life!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
The Art major and the music majors and everyone else can do whatevr they wnat with impunity. These kids get pimped all over the country everyone making huge dollard excpt the kid. Everyone benefits fromtheir scholarship but they can get funds anyway they want except athletes.
So don’t give me your highbrow crap I’ve heard all a million times. They pimp these kids because they can……….period
College experience………..give me a break we know why those kids
PriestBJ,
What would you know about the college experience? I am sure you are still a few credits shy of an AA from the Sally Struthers correspondence school in television and VCR repair.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
It’d due to all the money being spent on every other program at that school which is funded by the football and basketball programs
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Did you read the article??
Had nothing to do about this.
Non-BCS bowl games have been money-holes for years for universities, and continue to get worse.
Again, the TV network airing the game, makes money. The NCAA, gets ad money from there.
The university?? They got 600K to go, and that doesn’t even pay for the per diem for all 75 players, hotel rooms, cost of travel, etc, etc.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
there’s a movie out calledd Social Networks anout the Facebook story. Facebook was started on campus and they were making money on campus until they made so much they moved off campus and blew up in Palo Alto. Do you hear anyone sanctioning that school due to the money those kids mad eoff what theu knew?? Huh?? do you??
And you NEVER will because they’re not poor black kids needing a handout. They rich most of them coming from rich homes. The NCAA could care less it’s not there jurisdiction.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Yeah BHP, Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State to prep for the NFL experience.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Pryor is not a bad kid. He is going to make plays in the NFL. He has too much physical talent to not be utilized by an an NFL offense in some capacity. I would trade DHB and a 4th for him in one second. He would out perform DHB instantly as a WR.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Hope the Raiders bring you joy tonight Tj. Put the bottle down buddy and chill. Get rested up before the game and GO RAIDERS!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Exactly, not their jurisdiction.
Kids can’t work when they are in school?
Nobody said these athletes can’t work, they just can’t take duffle bags full of cash and play on their sports teams at the same time.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
And I played sports in college too. I put in the daily practices, riding the bus to games and missing class and I didn’t even get a full scholarship.
Puhleeze!
I played because I loved playing the game, not because I wanted people giving me stuff.
I was there to get that education which has paid off for mee 1000x fold…especially in this %$@#$@#$ economy!
These kids come from deprived neighborhoods where playing ball is the only thing that matters in life and the only way out!
Like I said before, spin the teams off from the university as a stand alone entity and turn them into “sponsored” minor league teams where the kids can be paid in cash or scholarships or both. Hold the institutions accountible for recruiting players that can actually graduate with a reasonable degree
August 20th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Priest,this isn’t a black/white issue,even if you see it that way.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Good Night Nation! Go Raiders!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
JFB it doesn’t matter man those kids still don’t get squat and that is MY POINT!!…………..period The schools have made their money off them their entire career. If they know they don’t travel well and the game is on the other side of the country why should they when they can wait til, next year have a home game and do better.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Priesttj,
And the players can work if they want..Just can’t take sports cars and as JFB said (duffle bags full of cash).
I will agree with one thing. If a kid comes from a “stone cold broke” household, the school should pony up for the plane ticket home during break.
ALso, there are plenty of “broke” kids who figure it out while at school by being frugal and focused on their studies.
Americans of all stripes have lost that concept of being frugal and delaying gratification
Which is why our country is in permanent decline. eveyone has to be paid now!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
People pay all that money for college sports entertainment because of the name on the front not the back.
Do you think Billy Joe in Greenville, SC could name 20 players off the team?
Nope, but when they play Auburn, he will spend as much money as needed to go to the game, and root on the team.
Once they are not the University of South Carolina Gamecocks, Billy Joe won’t care anymore.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
70.89052RAIDER Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Pryor is not a bad kid. He is going to make plays in the NFL. He has too much physical talent to not be utilized by an an NFL offense in some capacity. I would trade DHB and a 4th for him in one second. He would out perform DHB instantly as a WR.
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That is freak! I just got a inside tip that is exactly what Al Davis is trying to do. DHB and a 4th. Freak man! It’s gonna happen. Hello Tyrell, so long Hey-Bey.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
You guys have read Brown Hole Nun’s posts. Why would you care what he has to say about athletes and the collegiate experience? He clearly may be struggling to pass the GED. I give him credit for being able to open his browser and post a comment in any language, given the fact that he is mentally challenged.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
That’s why they’re starting these power conferences now and teams are begging to get in them. Because of the TV contracts. College sports is a billion $$ industry it’s not what it was 50 years ago and they need to change with the times. But why should they when they don’t have to…..period
August 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
AD’s last presser he basically said that the Raiders can’t baby sit high maintenance or special needs players anymore.
When the Raiders drafted T. Jones Hue Jax said that the Raiders couldn’t let a speedy, athletic player slip bye.
Chances of the Raiders putting in a bid for Pryor are 50/50.
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T. Jones has a lot more up side at his position. Easy pick to make. But I think Pryor is to good an athlete not to make a bid. He should come at a good price as well. And he might pay off a couple year from now as a QB.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
The system may be “corrupt and antiquated”, but the rules are the rules.
Jim Tressell’s breaking them as well has zero to do with Terrell Pryor’s indiscretions, and does not absolve Pryor even a little bit.
Saying that nobody blows the whistle on Notre Dame because they bring too much money to the table is farcical. There are plenty of high-profile programs that get nailed; USC and Ohio State most recently, and Miami on the horizon. UCLA just came off of NCAA probation.
Making excuses for Terrell Pryor breaking the rules (and getting caught) because “everybody else does it” and because “the system is corrupt” is a cop-out, plain and simple.
You want to change the rules, fine. Fact is, Pryor got caught breaking the existing ones. And he knew he was breaking them.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Firebaby thanks
I saw that when you posted and it got the juices flowing. I wont live with myself if I dont watch the Raiders
Doesnt it work out to 75 a month for the package?
Thats almost 20 a game and some of them will be on Nat TV. I would like to have the option of watching any game for ten bucks. They would make a ton, however I dunnno if NFL would be happy
August 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
MM 34 may be done with football. I am guessing neck injury.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
6′5″ 232…4.36…Pryor will be a Raider. Al has blue steel just watching him run that forty!!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
College sports is a billion $$ industry it’s not what it was 50 years ago and they need to change with the times. But why should they when they don’t have to…..period
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This is 100% true Priest.
The thing that is being lost on you, is that besides the elite college programs, the UNIVERSITIES aren’t the ones making the money.
The schools have even more right to cry poverty than the players. Players get a free education and an opportunity to make millions, ESPN makes zillions, NCAA makes zillions, and the University of North Carolina gets a bill.
Get it?
August 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
T Pryor can still be had in the 3rd if I’m the Raiders I make the move. He’s better than Keapernick who the niners moved up to get in the 2nd. He is as good or better than Jake Locrker right now. Had he stayed in school he would be a Heisman candidate and a low 1st or high2nd rndr in the draft.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
JFB if you believe that you are a damn fool…………period
August 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Plunk,
Last year they billed it out over 6 months, and was 59.99 a month.
While it is a bit steep, it sure pays for itself on those sleepy Sunday afternoons when the Raiders already played in the AM, and instead of being stuck with AZ-SF, you got a NY Giants-Eagles game, and a few others.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
@39
I feel u P. The Ncaa committee is a bunch if crap. They make so much off these student athletes. The players fill up stadiums on Saturdays, make school jersey’s with there numbers on them but no name sell in stores. Have a video games made (Ncaa12) with there likeness and they see no profit. The schools do give some players full scholarships but sadly most young men don’t take advantage of the education opportunity. They take easy classes to have a good enough GPA to play ball. But the players have expenses, and if the booster club wants to hook them up with some feds, I think the players should be allowed something.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
I wouldn’t have any problem if Pryor would have taken his suspension,not played in the championship game,and declared for the draft.He didn’t,he PROMISED he would miss the 1st 4 games this year and return.He went back on his word and lied.Now he going to be rewarded.That is what this should be about.Not whether or not the colleges should pay athletes or are taking advantage of them.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
JFB if you believe that you are a damn fool…………period
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How many links do you want me to post, proving my point?
Do you have any links showing bottom-tier pac 10 teams being profitable in college football?
August 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Jake Locker looks the best of any of these rookie QB’s so far this preseason.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I think the NCAA should pay the players 250K a year, make them pay for EVERYTHING (school, housing, food, etc.) and watch most of them come running back wanting things to change back to the way they were.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
You are right. I am gonna plead poverty (I called and got my internet and my phone bill lowered by claiming I got laid off at the kwikkee mart) I will work them and ask for the manager and beg. I will let you know what happens.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
What did you decide about the Pats game. I can fly there and back on Sunday nonstop out of Vegas for 260
August 20th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Make the kids pay taxes on 250K, pay for school (probably 30K a year) and those fancy dorms, no longer get to eat at the training table daily, and pay for their travel.
They will be broke by June.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Pryor is as good as or better than Locker right now-no he isn’t.Who cares about the Heisman-it is a popularity contest reserved for players from certain schools or conferences.Most Heisman QBs aren’t worth the ink on their contract when they become pros.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Just closed on a new house, and everything is on the back-burner right now.
IN fact, off to pick up the U-Haul.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
The schools also make money through alumni engagement. Espeically the big schools in the South. Donations flow into schools and the best connection they make is through sports.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
AD’s last presser he basically said that the Raiders can’t baby sit high maintenance or special needs players anymore.
When the Raiders drafted T. Jones Hue Jax said that the Raiders couldn’t let a speedy, athletic player slip bye.
Chances of the Raiders putting in a bid for Pryor are 50/50.
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T. Jones has a lot more up side at his position. Easy pick to make. But I think Pryor is to good an athlete not to make a bid. He should come at a good price as well. And he might pay off a couple year from now as a QB.
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T. Jones may have a learning disability, but the guy is a hard worker both as an athlete and as a student. I live up here in Spokane and attend school at EWU. My US history professor Dr. Scott Finnie, who is a die-hard Raider fan, had T. Jones in one of his classes, and told me personally that the guy is smart and very focused.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
JKF,you forgot about the allowance they get,plus the per-diem they get when they travel.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I like the way Al Davis is building the team with home grown players with good attitudes and track records.
Terrell Pryor might be a good kid. But he has red flags which included doing things that jeapordized his college career.
The Raiders don’t need that. They need football players that are willing to grind it out and support each other.
Priesttj, you have to stop falling for the athlete is great we will change him approach. The Raiders need players that can contribute as soon as possbile. Not another 5 year project in Pryor.
August 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Edward Teach let me ask you this and I want an honest answer if you came from nothing and were poor and were this great athlete who schools were falling over esch other to get to. They promised you the world because you were the most sought after player in that years crop. They begged you to come there. You could pay bills your Mom was working 2 jobs and still not paying the bills. You went to that school and the players that cam efrom good homes with money could do just about whatever they wanted drove nice cars. Would you just sit in your room never go anywhere to any parties no girls and just play like mad win award after award dominate games and still never ever take a dime or make any transgressions????
Edward Teach would YOU do that??
August 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
JKF,you forgot about the allowance they get,plus the per-diem they get when they travel.
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Lefty,
There is no justification for these players doing what they are doing. And also notice that many times its not for things of substance….its for cars, women, tickets and other favors.
Its a load of bs. A college athlete in a big school has the entire world for the taking.
Hell, imagine if you are a good player and a good student. Do you think it would be hard to network with some alumni and land a plum job on Wall Street or some company.
The root of this is that these kids (white and black) come from poorer backgrounds where education is not the focus. They also have been coddled their entire lives and not held accountable for the school work.
Its a big problem in the USA as a whole. A free education at an elite instituion is B.S?
GIVE ME A BREAK!
August 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Priest,forget all the other BS.Do you condone the fact Pryor lied by giving his word that he would return to school,then backed out?Doesn’t a man’s word and whether or not he keeps it speak volumes about him?
August 20th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Especially with everyone around you cheating including the HC the school making millions off you. You’re telling me you wouldn’t take a car or make some money off yoru jersey to have a few extra bucks?
ET you tellin me YOU wouldn’t do anything like that right???
August 20th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
TP cant touch Locker, let alone Colin acros the bay
August 20th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
JFB
Congrats, I wish you much happy times in your new home
August 20th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Lefty12 It depends on the circumstances under which he made those promises. At the time Tressell had not been fired and the stuff had not hit the fan so to speak. Him changing his mind under those terms doesn’t bother me one bit. he could NOT go back theer Left it was OVA……….period
August 20th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
102. I dont doubt that. I hope he is the steal of the draft this year. Who imagined Ford getting so many ESPN highlights last year. Between D Moore and T jones they may have to bump our draft grade up.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Locker is a inaccurate…Brady Quinn 2.0….TP will make plays..locker=wasted 1st round pick.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Yeah SnB you wouldn’t take a new car every two years for free. You don’t cheat on your taxes or drvie over the speed limit or tell lies under duress. You are just one perfect little gentleman no flaws at all.
Some of you need to look in the mirror first….
August 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Priesttj,
If my goal is to get to the NFL…then I wouldn’t do ANYTHING to jeapordize that. And they all know the rules.
BTW, what about the kids that don’t go to the Ohio States of the world. They have “poor” kids they recruit…probably more…how do they make it.
Only a handful of these schools make “money” and those are the handful of power conferences. Most of those schools don’t make money or have big boosters and fan bases.
Its ridiculous. Every kid should have to listen to Shannon Sharpe’s HOF induction speach. Just keep focused on what’s important…not what stupid pop culture tells you to do.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
So are the poor kids in universities only athletes?What about the poor student majoring in biology?They don’t necessarily receive free room & board.They don’t receive a monthly allowance,and they aren’t offered free cars and buckets full of illegal money,what are they to do?Many aren’t on full ride scholarships either,so they have to buy books among the many other costs of getting their education.Do you feel sorry for them?
August 20th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Yeah SnB you wouldn’t take a new car every two years for free. You don’t cheat on your taxes or drvie over the speed limit or tell lies under duress. You are just one perfect little gentleman no flaws at all.
Some of you need to look in the mirror first….
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You don’t know me to make comments like that. And no, I wouldn’t take a car for free. Just like at work I won’t do anything unethical that could benefit me but put me at risk. And no I am not perfect…no one is…..but taking a car, a free trip…my folks always told me nothing is for free.
Priesttj, if these kids would think beyond today..they would realize what they have.
Stop making excuses for that small percentage of kids who are even OFFERED anything!
August 20th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
So are the poor kids in universities only athletes?What about the poor student majoring in biology?They don’t necessarily receive free room & board.They don’t receive a monthly allowance,and they aren’t offered free cars and buckets full of illegal money,what are they to do?Many aren’t on full ride scholarships either,so they have to buy books among the many other costs of getting their education.Do you feel sorry for them?
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Best post related to this subject. Best post…..
August 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
SnB don’t give me that crap because I see it everyday allday. It’s like telling me you don’t drive over the speed limit. If you tell me that I’ll call you and everyone else a LIAR………..period
August 20th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
lefty12 those students don’t bring millions of $$$ to that university do they???
They’re not sweating in practice and getting beat on every saturday do they?? those students go to see the athletes who do….and those athletes still have to get an education along with their nonathletic counterpart in order to stay eligible.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
SnB don’t give me that crap because I see it everyday allday. It’s like telling me you don’t drive over the speed limit. If you tell me that I’ll call you and everyone else a LIAR………..period
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I guess you are the only one that sees things huh! You don’t see the kid Lefty speaks about in post 116! You don’t see that kid because he can’t entertain you on Saturdays or Sundays. You can’t see that kid because you don’t hold in the same regard her determination to truly pull herself up…
Nope….all you see is some punk kid QB at an elite school given everything…but couldn’t even wait another year and had “ball out” and that punk kid IS STILL going to be given a bunch of money.
Give me that poor kid grinding it out in anonymity trying to be something.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
OK,Priest.As I said,that is my problem.I don’t agree with you though.The man gave his word.To me that is a big deal.If you can’t take a man for his word,he isn’t worth a damn to me.My dad used to say he could trust a guy who committed murder over a thief and a liar.As he said,something could happen to cause a good person to snap and take a life,but a thief and a liar is nothing but a thief and a liar.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
It’d reall easy to sit on a keyboard and judge because none of us have ever been in that kids shoes. You have no idea what he saw or went through. He did wrong like we all do at his age. But now we’re a bit smarter and less impressionable. So now we are able be judge over all athletes because we know all………….yeah right!
August 20th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
lefty12 those students don’t bring millions of $$$ to that university do they???
They’re not sweating in practice and getting beat on every saturday do they?? those students go to see the athletes who do….and those athletes still have to get an education along with their nonathletic counterpart in order to stay eligible
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Why does the student care what the university is “pulling in”.
They are at that school to get a chance to play ball in the NFL.
Not to make a little bit of money the 3 or 4 years in college.
Sit down sir!
August 20th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
MM 34 may be done with football. I am guessing neck injury
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What???? Are you just guessing or joking. I haven’t read anything about Mitchell’s injury.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
SnB this isn’t Disneyland son tha’s a good story but it has zero to d with reality……….period
August 20th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Priesttj,
I played ball in school. So I understand what it is to have to put the time in to practice, play and still leave time for your school work.
It is not this oppressive life you seem to be trying to paint here.
Sure, I was never offered cars, tickets and thousands of dollars and all things. But I wouldn’t jeapordize my career and place at school for some short term fix. My folks said nothing is free . And that’s what we are mostly talking about here. We aren’t talking about a few dollars in spending money…we are talking about leveraging the college fame to get a bunch of money.
You need to meet and talk to more people before you make the declarative statements you make in here.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Priest,actually they do bring money to the universities.They get grants for certain studies.They donate huge sums of money once they graduate and become scholars in their fields.Also,much of the money made from the football teams and basketball teams support all the other sports at the schools.Look at Cal.They’ve gone to bowls 8 out of the last 9 years,yet due to lack of funds,they were going to drop baseball.This is a major school in a major conference.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Priesttj,
Go to some SWAC school and see how they are making it.
There is a relatively small pool of kids who are on the take like that.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Lefty12 and so do the athletes, they send all kinds of money back to their Uni’s. It’s no different the difference is the pay the bills while they’re there. Yet they get nothing more than a few pennies while everyone else is making millions off them.
You cannot tell me at 21 years old you would not take a free car, because I wouldn’t believe you.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
SnB get outta here man……….you sound like a fool.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Priesttj,
No! NOT EVERY 21 YEAR OLD WHO IS OFFERED A FREE CAR WOULD FREEKN TAKE ONE! Poor or otherwise. Not everyone is willing to sell themselves out for a “gift”
not everyone thinks in the here and now.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
SnB do you have any idea how many athletes I’ve talked to over the years man?
August 20th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
To me it says volumes about someone like R.Bushes and Pryor’s integrity when they accept these extra benefits knowing it could hurt the school and their coaches.it shows they are selfish individuals who doesn’t care about anyone else.I wouldn’t want anyone like that on my TEAM.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Priesttj,
You have no idea what goes on at college….no idea!
August 20th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
SnB do you have any idea how many athletes I’ve talked to over the years man?
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No I don’t. But my guess, with your relationship with the Raiders, you were talking to mostly the ones that “made it”
August 20th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Priesttj,
And you have no idea how many college students I speak with and work with…
You experience doesn’t represent the world my friend.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Priesttj wants to excuse the bad behavior of a few….but doesn’t acknowledge all the kids that do the right thing.
He wants to sellout for the cheater because he runs a fast 40 time and can toss the rock.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
They’re doing his stuf even on the highschool level now there’s a kid who’s mother got a good job just because her son went to a catholic highschool. This stuff is rampant now. It’s been going on forever.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
This madness starts in high school and before. Bad behavior dismissed…bad grades dismissed…all because the kid can help us win.
If the high schools and parent(s) would set high standards for behavior and academic preparation…most of the kids who feel the need to cheat might not do so.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Don’t agree with you on this one Priesttj.
Going to have to leave it at that.
Code Black!
August 20th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
While there are many college athletes who take those extra bennies,there are more that don’t.I don’t happen to agree that they are paying for ‘pennies’.I had 2 kids go to college and it takes a hell of a lot of pennies to pay your way through.And that was over 10 years ago.It was outrageous then and it is much worse now.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
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Agreed 100%
August 20th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
SnB ths aint nothing but big business snowwhite get a clue this isn’t Disneyland this stuff is so freakin corrupt there is no changing it there is no policing it. It goes all the way to the TOP.
Sure there are plenty of kids who do the right thing and obey the rules but they are far and few between. I spend way too much time talking with sports writers and media people and athletes to not know better.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Lefty12 I meant the kid gets pennies for what he does especially a T Pryor.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
You don’t have to agree it is what it is………..period
August 20th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
I heard an athlete interviewed recently(can’t remember who,but he was an ex big name pro) that decided to go back and finish school.He got a free ride all the time he was in school.He talked about how he always thought he should have been paid.Once he returned he realized what the cost really was for the average student.He said he didnt realize how much he was actually getting.He changed his mind and didn’t believe they should be paid now.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
It might have been M.Faulk.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Marshall Faulk is RICH now Lefty12, He also is 15 years older. You have to take that into acct. He’s no longer poor and hungry he no longer has to go to practice and then study and then beat the other team on saturday. he aint in those shoes anymore.
August 20th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
The thing about this topic is so many have such varying views.Even those associated with sports and athletes disagree.Some feel the SA(student athlete) should be compensated more.Others feel they are already compensated enough.In my mind,both have reasonable and compelling arguments.If you were to compensate the SA with a monthly or weekly check,what about all the other athletes in other sports besides football and basketball?Shouldn’t they also be paid?
August 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
He was just pointing out that he never realized how much he was actually making while he was in college.He mentioned that besides all things related to school being paid for,he didn’t appreciate the extras the athletes received-free room and board,per-diem when they traveled,the monthly allowance they receive,even though it isn’t a large amount of money-something around $400 a month,etc.
August 20th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
People go to college for the opportunity to make it after they get out of school.Why should athletes be different?Too many of them believe they are entitled.I just saw a commercial were M.Irvin said Cam Newton is getting $22 million and he should be getting $50 million more.Give me a break.
August 20th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
# Smells like beeechum Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
YEA!!! RAIDERS going DOWN!
CODE BLACK!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
# Atlas Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
This is freak! I just got a inside tip that Al Davis is trying to trade DMAC and a 4th. Freak man! It’s gonna happen. Hello Tyrell, so long DMAC!!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
T Pryor can still be had in the 3rd if I’m the Raiders I make the move and trade DMAC!!! He’s better than Keapernick who the niners moved up to get in the 2nd. He is as good or better than Jake Locrker right now. Had he stayed in school he would be a Heisman candidate and a low 1st or high2nd rndr in the draft.
August 20th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Priest,
Had to run out for awhile, so just getting to your question;
To answer, I would hope that my parents (or parent, as the case may be) would have raised me to know the difference between right and wrong, and to conduct myself accordingly. The type of activity you’re asking me if I would participate in risks an awful lot for an awful lot of people, and it would be selfish and short-sighted to give in to something like that.
I’m not saying the system’s fair. What I’m saying is that Terrell Pryor got caught breaking rules he knew about. People in all walks of life break rules that they think are silly; we’re all human and we all do it. What we should all realize is that there are consequences if we get caught.
Change the system, change the rules; all good topics for discussion. Terrell Pryor broke existing NCAA rules, and got caught. Doing what he did was selfish, and put his team, his university, and his coach in a difficult position. I think it’s hard to look the other way.
August 20th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
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August 20th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
JFB if you believe that you are a damn fool…………period Priesttj!!!!!!!!! GO NINERS!!!!!!!!
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