Raiders get bullied by 49ers in 17-3 loss
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, August 20th, 2011 at 9:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson says he wants to “build a bully” with this team. He spent three hours or so Saturday night watching his players get bullied by the 49ers in an eye-opening, 17-3 loss at Candlestick Park.
Jackson is bright enough to know that it’s going to take plenty of time, effort and patience to build his team into the kind of team that imposes its will upon opponents. Saturday night’s beat down illustrated the point.
Jackson doesn’t want to hear about how the Raiders were without front-line players such as running back Darren McFadden, cornerback Chris Johnson and wide recievers Jacoby Ford, Chaz Schilens and Louis Murphy, either.
“That has nothing to do with tonight,” Jackson said. “Tonight, we didn’t play Raider football. We didn’t play like a Raider. That’s just the truth. Let’s call it like it is. We did not play as well as this football team can play, and they’ll be the first to tell you that, and we need to get better.”
Perhaps most distressing to Jackson and the Raiders, the 49ers marched up and down the field against the Raiders starting defense without much difficulty.
The 49ers held the ball for almost 37 minutes and piled up 402 yards offense, with 226 of those yards coming in the first half, with the starting defense on the field quite a bit.
Veteran offensive lineman Khalif Barnes cautioned people against making too much of one game, especially one that doesn’t count in the standings.
“It’s never as bad as it looks,” Barnes said. “We just have to go back to camp and keep working. We don’t expect to be polished at this point but, obviously, it should have gone better than it did tonight.”
*Starting quarterback Jason Campbell suffered an injury late in the second quarter as he scrambled from pressure. Forty Niners linebacker Ahmad Brooks slammed into Campbell around the neck and head region, with Campbell going down hard.
Several trainers tended to Campbell on the field before he was escorted to the bench for further evaluation. Jackson said afterward that Campbell got “dinged up.”
It appeared as if Campbell suffered yet another stinger — he endured three last season, including one against the 49ers in an exhibition game. However, Campbell said it wasn’t a stinger, but he is set to undergo a test to determine whether he suffered a concussion.
“I am doing all right,” Campbell said. “I took a knee to the head. When it happened, everything kind of went dizzy, drop out for a minute. It’s unexpected, something you can’t prepare for. I’m just glad I’ll be all right.”
That’s the precise reason the Raiders signed veterans Kyle Boller and Trent Edwards. Jackson has two options to choose from in case Campbell can’t play, knowing that Edwards and Boller have plenty of starting experience.
Campbell’s stat line is somewhat misleading. He completed 5 of 7 passes for 74 yards. However, he also was sacked twice and made a couple of poor decisions.
On one play, he had tight end Kevin Boss wide open in the corner of the end zone but opted to tuck the ball and go for the touchdown via the run. He was stuffed for a 1-yard loss.
“It was actually a run-pass option,” Campbell said. “If I had to do it all over again, I’d try to get out of the fake as soon as I could and get my eyes around and at least give him a chance at the back of the end zone.”
That will come, he said, with more practice time and exhibition games.
“It’s preseason,” Campbell said. “You want to take those tries. Coming out of this game, one thing we’re trying to learn is we have to finish. The only play I regret from tonight is probably that one. It’s a run first play but at the same time you should try to give him a shot in the back of the end zone.”
*Not sure who is going to be in the lineup against the Denver Broncos on Sept. 12 for the regular-season opener, but it’s looking more and more likely that Jared Veldheer, Daniel Loper, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes are the front-runners, from left to right.
Those five started against the 49ers and played the entire first half. Rookies Joseph Barksdale and Stefen Wisniewski didn’t get their turn until the second half.
Loper and Barnes are the two who haven’t solidified spots just yet. Jackson has said several times that he intends to play the five best players and that Wisniewski is one of those five.
If that’s the case, then Wisniewski is being eyed as a replacement for Loper, who filled in for Robert Gallery for four games last season.
Barksdale and veteran Stephon Heyer are competing against Barnes for the spot occupied by Langston Walker last season. Who starts and plays the most against the New Orleans Saints on Aug. 28 likely will be the opening-day starters.
*Rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore added to his growing legend by catching two passes for 28 yards and returning a kick 48 yards.
“He’s a bright spot,” Jackson said. “He’s done some really good things. The guy, when we throw it to him, he catches it. When he returns it, he’s a threat. He’s a very solid and good football player. Again, he’s got to be consistent and keep doing it week in and week out. So far, so good.”
Campbell completed passes to Moore on back-to-back plays in a sign that he knows a good thing when he sees one.
*Third-year receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey caught two passes for 40 yards against the 49ers. He did so despite tight coverage on both plays.
Heyward-Bey is making huge strides so far and showing that he is more ready than ever to be a viable option in the passing game and not best used as a decoy and downfield blocker.
*Rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke made his first NFL start. Suffice, he played better than he did in a reserve role against the Arizona Cardinals nine days earlier.
Van Dyke allowed a 14-yard completion to veteran Braylon Edwards early in the game on a play in which he played too soft. Call it just another one of those teachable moments for the rookie out of the University of Miami.
“I did pretty good for my first start,” Van Dyke said. “I was nervous the first play but after that I was just playing ball. The speed of the game slowed down a lot for me the second game. I got my feet wet the first game and I was much better tonight.”
*Jackson and defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan have talked at length about the need to play better against the run this season. Bresnahan called it “an attitude.”
It’s the 49ers who played with a nasty disposition Saturday. They rushed for 239 yards on 41 carries for a 5.8-yard average. That figure soars past 6 yards a pop if you take away two late-game kneel-downs.
“I made a statement that we wouldn’t get the ball run on us like that, and we did,” Jackson said. “That’s disappointing. I guess that’s my point. The things that I want to see fixed that we talked about that, we’ve shored up a little bit, being able to stop the run, being a little more consistent in the scoring zone, doing some things our football team is starting to do, in practice, didn’t show up today in the game.
The 49ers exploited the Raiders with an array of runs out wide, with the Raiders unable to get players on the perimeter fast enough. The back-breaking run came on a burst up the middle by Kendall Hunter in the third quarter. He broke arm tackles by safeties Stevie Brown and Jerome Boyd en route to a 53-yard touchdown.
*Another area of huge concern was the Raiders inability to get much pressure on 49ers starting quarterback Alex Smith. Smith attempted 13 passes without getting sacked, one week after he was battered by the Saints.
The Raiders defensive line is viewed as the strength of the team. If Matt Shaughnessy, Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelley and Lamarr Houston aren’t able to get pressure on the quarterback on a consistent basis, it’s going to make it that much more difficult on the seven other defenders.
Defensive line coach Mike Waufle should be able to rectify this problem before the regular season starts. The same line produced 47 sacks last season, one shy of the league high.
*The Raiders committed six penalties for 55 yards against the 49ers. That’s an improvement from the 10 for 84 they posted against the Cardinals. Still, there were too many for Jackson’s liking.
*Rookie cornerback Sterling Moore just keeps making plays, just like the other Moore on the team.
It’s getting to the point where the Raiders might not be able to overlook the undrafted free agent who prepped in the Bay Area at Deer Valley High School.
Moore faces an uphill battle for a roster spot, if only because Van Dyke, Chimdi Chekwa, Jeremy Ware and Walter McFadden arrived via the NFL draft.
Moore showed once again Saturday night that he is capable of playing at this level. On one play, he read the route right away, broke on the pass and knocked it away before the reciever had a chance to make a play on the ball.
From afar, Moore has outplayed the aforementioned four other cornerbacks. We’ll see if his coaches feel the same way.
*First roster cuts are Aug. 30, when teams have to be at a maximum of 80 players. They have until Sept. 3 to pare their rosters to 53. For nine of the Raiders in tonight’s game, they won’t be around two days after the Saints game.
*Boss suffered a left knee strain and backup safety Jerome Boyd came out of the game with a bruised knee.
Boss’ injury came at the end of a reception, when a 49ers defender hit him in the knee with his helmet.
“It’s hard to tell,” Boss said of how long he’ll be out. “It’s nothing serious, that’s for sure. Take a little time to heal up.”
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August 20th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Thats it for pre season for the starters man
August 20th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
August 20th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
The header says it all.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Oops sorry didn’t mean to post yet. I bet we dont’ see DMC or Campb ell again till the regs. Whats up with Bush’s DUI?
August 20th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
3. Word JB. Word. Wake up call Oakland.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
OK, we looked like crap. But it’s important not to overreact.
Don’t get too high after a win, too low after a loss.
Take this beatdown for what it was. A pre-season game with quite a few key players not playing or seeing limited time. A chance to evaluate players, identify problem areas and clean things up.
Plenty of work to do. Plenty of football to come.
I’m gonna stay optimistic even if I didn’t like what I saw today. My opinion of the overall squad hasn’t changed much. There’s some good young talent that has to step up and with a few breaks we can make some noise.
When all the pieces are in place and the real bullets start flying we’ll look better. Maybe even good enough to overcome JaJason. I hope so.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Is “dinged up” better or worse than nicked?
August 20th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
Whats up with Bush’s DUI?
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He got another DUI?
August 20th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
What a mess, zero confidence right now, but as always, GO RAIDERS!
August 20th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
995.Whats Goin On Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I am so upset about gettin our asses handed to us by thoise shtty fkin niners. My entire fkn week is ruined, and really lookin forward to the saints now th witness another bullsht lackluster game? WTF!
Gimme somethin here Hue, come on and cut a breaak. Man I can’t watch this team plunge back into the fkn toilet again, I hope you and your staff come out pissed and angry next game and toss that build a bully garbage out where it belongs.
996.Whats Goin On Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
991.hendu Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
989,bingo!!!!Youre more PISSED off than I am!The Raiders need to SELL tickets,not goin happen w/walkups,lost against the niners,wtf
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Fck the ticket sales, just win a fking game, No, Better yet, score a FKNG touchdown. thats why you play the game.
997.Whats Goin On Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Why would you want to fkn lay down and let the *^$*&$^%*&#*^@&@@^*$**&* niners beat your ass red? WHY?
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OK, I’ve said my peace, now i’m outta here.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Well…you can’t beat that performance no matter how hard you try. The good news! It will be a long time before we play any worst than that. Wow.
Guess Hue going to have to wait until we play the Seahawks before he gets his first win as a Raiders Head Coach, as it’s not going to happen against the Saints next week. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be pulling for our Raiders, but from what I saw tonight…we’re really hurting. BIGTIME.
D. Moore is surely NO, one-day-wonder, he’s the real deal and for being a rookie, that’s something positive we can claim.
I usually watch the games a few times, but I’m going to “delete” this game asap
August 20th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
“That has nothing to do with tonight,” Jackson said. “Tonight, we didn’t play Raider football. We didn’t play like a Raider. That’s just the truth. Let’s call it like it is. We did not play as well as this football team can play, and they’ll be the first to tell you that, and we need to get better.”
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I hope to he11 I dont get used to hearin this fkng bullsht. Been listenin to it for fkn years
August 20th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
We went 3-1 in the preseason last year and looked pretty good, then got hammered by the Titans in week 1, only to bounce back the following week and then, ultimately, play our best football near the middle of the season, dropped off during the bye, came back, then down, then back.
I guess what I’m saying is we need more consistencey and I’m sure glad we got the beatdown in week2 of preseason. Hopefully it will make us that much more prepared for MNF week 1.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
I’m watching the game now and it seems we are just flat it’s similar to what I see every year in camp we’re suffering from Hue’s Camp. He’s working these guys guts out and their legs are dead. They were not sharp and alive on that first defensive drive. The Oline is NOT settled at all Hue has to pick his guys NOW and let them gel………..period
August 20th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Im going to wait tell next week before I freak out. The Saints are a way better team then the 49ers, but if we look like we did tonight I think we all have the right to be worried about the upcoming season.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Ugh. Not good. I’m not pushing the panic button yet, mind you, but this game sucked.
Corkran’s protestations aside (he is absolutely no fan of Terrelle Pryor as a QB), Al has GOT to be thinking of taking Pryor with a 3rd-Rounder. Campbell and co. do NOT look like long-term answers.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Another thing these injuries are costing us some degree of continuity. Wewont know what kind of team we have until game 5 of the regular season unfortunately.
Hue can say all he wants that the offseason wont be used as an excuse that’s fine but it is a definite factor in how this team looks.
I want to see TJ and DMC run. DHB didn’t make a sight adjustment JC was throwing hot due to a blitz and he didn’t see it. They just need to play that’s the bottom line.
Relax it’s preseason kiddies!!
August 20th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Goddammit. From Twitter:
Steve Corkran
Two males shot in Candlestick parking lot after Raiders-49ers game. One of the victims has life-threatening injuries.
2 minutes ago from web
August 20th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Just heard some people got shot up after game. Hope it wasn’t about this sorry game we played
August 20th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
“That has nothing to do with tonight,” Jackson said. “Tonight, we didn’t play Raider football. We didn’t play like a Raider. That’s just the truth. Let’s call it like it is. We did not play as well as this football team can play, and they’ll be the first to tell you that, and we need to get better.”
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Better start coaching ‘em up Hue, or there’ll soon be a nationally televised overhead projector session, followed by getting thrown under a bus driven by a senile 82 year old man…
You should be embarrrassed Hue, that was pathetic!
August 20th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Big Al has been thinking about taking pryor since he declared for the Supp……LOL
These guys in here just don’t get it the guy wins games………….period
August 20th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
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I hope to he11 I dont get used to hearin this fkng bullsht. Been listenin to it for fkn years
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Amen.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Yeah Pryor looks alot better today then he did yesterday, thats fo sho
August 20th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Hey, they just mentioned on ESPN sports that Andrew Walters is now available. Get Walters and Johnny Lee Higgins…what a combo that would be. While we’re at it, we can bring back Art Shell and his “bed and breakfast, offensive coordinator, Walsh.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Priest, you think Pryor really could be a legit QB
August 20th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Big Al has been thinking about taking pryor since he declared for the Supp……LOL
These guys in here just don’t get it the guy wins games………….period
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He’ll never play QB in this league. Period.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Yeah, want to apologize for my A hole friend on here earlier. Too lazy to get his own name on here. Thinks its funny to trash mine.
Idiot and not invited to Raider day anymore.
Texas, again, apologies.
Now, then. The Raiders need to apologize for some things too!
August 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
One good thing I liked from this game. Did u see the block Seymore laid on shonasty’s interception. That Aww a hit, he played like a man today
August 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
23. Word.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Don’t sweat it fellas, Campbell will pour a tall cold purple drank and it’ll be all good next time.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
We need 22 Seymours. Then we might be relevant.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
“These guys in here just don’t get it the guy wins games………….period”
How many NFL QBs didn’t win games in college?
August 20th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Way to tell it like it is Cork. Thats what journalism used to be. Mildly shocking to see a little of it again.
Wake up call Oakland…
August 20th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Jason has to make them plays in the redzone, I have ben a Jason supporter but C’MON MAN throw the f’ing ball to the dudes that are wide open
August 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Always interesting to see the Nations reaction. Its one game peeps. One pre season game.
Don’t abandon ship cuz the toilet got clogged.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
IMO T Pryor is better than Keapernick who the niners moved up to get. I think Pryor is on par with Cam Newton and I’m not kidding I said so a month ago.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Seymore was outstanding. D. Moore will be a starter, Janikowski is always good for 3 points and other than that, I can’t seem to think of anything else that was positive on a consistent basis.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Steve – part of your post is inaccurate. Barksdale did play 1st half w/ 1st team I believe.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
You’ve got an effin screw loose the way you keep flogging that horse.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
28.da trinity Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
One good thing I liked from this game. Did u see the block Seymore laid on shonasty’s interception. That Aww a hit, he played like a man today
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You must have missed the play where Seymour had the guy in his grasp behind the line of scrimmage on a 3rd and one and just let him slip away and get the forst down.
I didn’t.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Yeah I feel ya Priest, I think he could be just as good as Cam but Im not sold on him either as a great QB, and thats what I want
August 20th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Honestly, Raiders were more vanilla this game than vs the Cards. Hue said it couldn’t call it any more vanilla – well this definitely was. Not that I really care though.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
34.realtruraider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Jason has to make them plays in the redzone, I have ben a Jason supporter but C’MON MAN throw the f’ing ball to the dudes that are wide open
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I thought that JC just didn’t see Boss wide open, but he admitted he DID and just decided to go ahead and try to run it anyway.
To me that’s scarier cuz it shows horrible decision making. He KNEW Boss was WIDE OPEN for a TD and turned it down.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
2 game in a row DHB looked good …nuff said. He’s putting critic to rest. But they won’t go away until he starts doing it in the regs.
Campbell has to keep an eye out for this kid. He’s looking primed.
August 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
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.ya I saw it, but he was lights out the rest of the half
August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
DHBeast!!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I hate talking bad about my raiders but vanilla had nothing to do with what happened tonight, we got dominated on both sides of the lines. This cannot happened again neaxt week are I will be very concerned
August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Don’t worry though guys.
When the regular season starts JC will magically become smarter and decide to throw it to wide open guys in the end zone. It’s all good.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
B.A.u.c.E. we gotta talk, I read where you were complaining about Tommie Kelley an dI’m watching this game and they wont even run at him at all. What exactly did you see??
August 20th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Also remember peeps hue isn’t going to flash the playback for preseason.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Hue has to call the line and roll with it into the season. I said before, most of that line needs to be settled at least by the 3rd pre-season game.
They need to play together. Right now I’ll say we’re dealing with Veldheer-Wiz-Satele-Carlisle-Barksdale.
I would love to see BCamp start but they may not be comfortable as his technique is not polished as Carlisle.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
Texas, again, apologies.
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Whatever man, I’m over it. I live in a very urban and solidly “blue” area in Texas, all hip no hick. I voted O in 2008 and will again next year. Mr. Perry is not popular in my neighborhood. There are a lot of idiots in this state, but it’s still home.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Terrelle Pryor has shown everything Mr. Davis likes in a qb. He’s obsessed with players that could be like Vick. I can easily picture Pryor with the Raiders this year, particularly if Campbell can’t finish and the team is out of the playoffs.
The current qbs don’t give any confidence at all, mostly mediocre at best. The team will need to rely heavily on the run, and yes the OL will need to develop a more aggressive attitude, the problem is that there are major holes in the OL mentioned by Cockran, neither Loper or Barnes should start, Barnes should be cut. The young rooks will need to learn on the fly, and the offense will suffer from this weakness.
The defense run by Bresnahan will also suffer from inexperienced dbs and helter-skelter play-calling.
It is exactly pre-season, I am not looking for wins, I am looking for improvement from the previous years, I am looking for an attitude and that goes without saying. Walk the talk or stfu.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
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Yup they run on the edges, maybe its oh LB cuz Houston an Sho are strong at the point of attack
August 20th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Sure glad to see the team is more ready to play now that Hue is in charge.These great showings are sure to help sell tickets and put butts in the seats.As far as Pryor is concerned,I’m sick of these great athletes trying to play QB.I want a damn QB,and Pryor doesn’t fit that request.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
realtruraider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I hate talking bad about my raiders but vanilla had nothing to do with what happened tonight, we got dominated on both sides of the lines. This cannot happened again neaxt week are I will be very concerned
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Not exactly true. 1st team was not getting dominated. 1st teama was having problems on 3rd downs. 2nd & 3rd team defenses were getting dominated.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Question posed in the press box? Terrelle Pryor the Raiders Week 6 starting QB, after he serves five-game suspension?
about 4 hours ago
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HA!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Why the he// are they running a run option for the QB in preseason any way?!? He seems ok but dayum, he could’ve been lost for the season on some buhsh*t.
Anyway, no pressure on the QB by 1st team D is a problem.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Terrapin, alright I didn’t get to watch game listened to it and what I heard didn’t sound good for the first team are the backups.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Lefty12 You mean like Steve Young………..LOL
August 20th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Well, thats what I get for watching a game sober…
It will be a cold day at the Colorado River before that happens again……
Take care, all…..
August 20th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
909, don’t laugh man how these Qbs played tonight who knows what could happen
August 20th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
The Niners were able to run and pass on us without mercy, and they just ate up all the clock in the process. You can’t score when you don’t have the ball and we had the ball for about 1 1/2 minutes, during the first quarter. That seemed to set the tone for the rest of the game. We had a short “flash” from D. Moore and DHB…(they got us down to the 3 yard line…first and goal)…(4 downs) and nothing. What was that all about? Last year, during our season game with the Niners, we were in the Red-Zone 5 times and came away the 6 points, I believe? I tried to blank those details out of my mind. We loss by 6 points to them, that I do remember.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
It appears without DMAC, raiders are just pedestrian. Need him to be healthy for week 1 and or the full season, otherwise, the raiders will be vanilla in every game. ‘Nuff said
August 20th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
The 1st team got pushed around like Laney college would against LSU.No pass rush,couldn’t stop the run,and Smith looked like Brady against our DBs.The offense wasn’t much betterJC looked like his usual self and his backups weren’t any better.Winning and losing in the pre-season isn’t important,but at least looking like a competent professional team is important and this team hasn’t to this point.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Why is Hue calling the plays? I thought that was the job of the OC. If Hue wants to call some plays, let him focus on the defense. Let’s Saunders call the offense.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I watched OSU v. Wisc rebroadcast recently and Pryor’s passing game needs much work. If the Raiders get him, it wont be to start QB any time soon unless he’s a super fast learner. But hey, with our current QB roster, Pryor could sit or do some wildcat for a couple yrs. If he learns QB then good, if not then use his talents at a different position. I’d prefer 5th rd but I wouldn’t hate using a 3rd rd pick on him, especially with the expected compensatory picks for Nnamdi & Gallery
August 20th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
What is it about these F’ing whiners are about playing in Candlestick? It seems like we always play down to there sucky ways
August 20th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Where is that fat basterd no good piece of crap old man of mine. I’m gonna rip off his pecker. Who the hell he think he is posting that garbage he be banging chicks? He’s supposed to be working. He’s a no good accountant at a local cheap sleazy resturaunt.
Lazy fat slop wont even fix the broken screen door on the trailer. Well when the damn miquitos bite his lazy fat ass tonight, it’ll serve him well. You’d think his body odor would keep the bugs away, but they don’t.
I’ll fizzle his bizzle all right next time I see that lazy s.o.b. He’ll be runnin for the hills.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Steve Young,IMO,is one of the most over-rated QBs in the history of the game.Except for the 1 SB he won,he completely sucked in the playoffs.He played on a team full of all-pro talent.So,actually,no,I don’t a S.Young either.I want a Brady,Payton,Rivers,Fouts,Stabler,Plunkett,etc.-in other words a QB.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
If Sterling Moore doesn’t make the team it’s a damn shame. Walter McFadden is a BUM.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
multiple penalties by Mr. Loper, Mr. Carlisle, and last week by Mr. Barnes.
The 3 veterans committing the most penalties is not acceptable; time to start the two rookies against New Orleans and see how they perform versus first team defenses.
Jason getting knocked around should be enough to give them a start.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
zopi Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Terrelle Pryor has shown everything Mr. Davis likes in a qb. He’s obsessed with players that could be like Vick.
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Then why didn’t he go after Vick himself before he landed in Philly?
August 20th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
WOW, Beeecham has a misses? I always thought he was a Fairy.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Oh and Terrelle Pryor is not an NFL QB. I’m not sure if that has been mentioned yet, but people need to stop thinking he’s the answer, much less a backup.
The jury is out on him as a WR, though.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Raiders need more Moore(s)!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
71, Amen to that. I can’t stand mcfadden. If performance truly matters, he will get the axe.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
D Moore needs to start in the Regular season, we got beat but dnt panic…. We will be fine, I am worried most about our dbs, dvd has some growing pains to go through… Cut mcfadden and ware they fkn suck
August 20th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Listen I watched up to 10 minutes in the 1st half and this team doesn’t look near as bad a syou guys make out. yeaha SF made some plays here and there. but when we needed to stop trhem we did. At this point in the game our secondteam defense was in the game. What are you guys sreacming about it ludicrous.
yeah we got beat and it didn’t look good but when the coahces see this game in film they’ll just get back to business. Our defense was as vanilla as can be. Soft zones no man and the niners were at home and fired up. Give a damn rest this is ridiculous. they beat down a bunch guys who’ll get cut over the next week or so.,……….big deal.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Tony Dungy recommended to Vick that the Raiders would not be great option for his future at that time; I remember that report coming out two years ago.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RaiderRetribution, You got a link?
August 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Raiders first , second and third teams are being massacred by their opponents and what do their announcers keep talking about? The greatness of the raiders in the past!!!!!
It’s about time for this organizations and the CLOWNS running it to concentrate on the present and future instead of the past. POGs that’s enough! Stop living in the past!
They do it to please AD of course who has assembled the biggest bozzo misfit managers to run this team. Sick of it all……
Same results, same team, same garbage on the field. Theybexpect attitude will stop the run! No morons good playersbstop the freakin’ run! Patrick Willis stops the run cause he’s good not because he has an attitude. Expect the Worst run defense to continue to suck.
And yeah let’s not forget our great HC. He has an attitude alright. Too bad none of his players do. I’m already sick of his used car salesmanship. He’s making JT the Brick sounds credible almost in comparison. All talk and no action. History is repeating itself alright in Oakland.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Whatever. They lost and it was ugly.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
that’s the problem Lefty12 you have eyes for one type of QB and things are changing man. Those guys are great but there is more than one way to win. those kids aree going to dominate the game before you know it. Just because they’re athletes doesn’t mean they can’t play QB and play it damn good and be HOF’s just like those guys. Get ready Lefty12 times arachangin’.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Our offense was real vanilla, no excuses though! I look to see more play action, screens, ect….
August 20th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Cause I heard this week no one mentioned the Raiders were interested in Vick
August 20th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Whatever to post 79 that is. A loss is a loss.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Priest, I have to disagree with that. Our run defense looked like it did last year until they got to the goalline. That was nice but against a good team, if we let them march down te field like that on us, we’re in big touble. Vanilla shmanilla, stopping the run is about an attitude. No vanilla talk can get us outta that. Win at the point of attack & tackle the guy with the ball, it’s that simple. & we didn’t/couldn’t tonight.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
1st rule of drafting in the NFL: If the name is Moore, draft them.
2nd rule of drafting in the NFL: If you have a good hunch about a possible long shot, draft them in the 4th round.
3rd rule of drafting in the NFL: All draftees must run sub 5.0 40’s – Linemen included.
4th rule of drafting in the NFL: Don’t be afraid to trade away a draft choice for a proven veteran – especially if his name is Seymour.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
You haven’t seen the future lefty12 I have, this is a new day. These guys are going to terriorize the NFL with their play and those who have one will be better off than those who don’t. Trust me!!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
UCLA, you are not a Raiders fan go back yo the Whiners blog
August 20th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
only problem we have on our 1st team offense?… mcfadden isnt there to cause mismatches! without him our offense is vanilla ice cream.
our first team defense is going to adjust to not having 21.. they will be better sept 12th. aaaaannnd im happy to see our 1st team d didnt get run on like the garbage back-ups..
glad to see moss get a sack too.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
90.priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
You haven’t seen the future lefty12 I have, this is a new day. These guys are going to terriorize the NFL with their play and those who have one will be better off than those who don’t. Trust me!!
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fantastico!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
by the way.. is it just me or is d moore the real deal? i personally believe we drafted our #1 wideout this year in the 5th round..
August 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Incidentally Andrew Luck is another great athlete who can run and pass. Terrell Pryor can beat passing for 300 yards and runnning for another 100 and 2 TD’s.
That kid will be unstoppable in 3 years……….believe it.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
sho-nasty can cover!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
90.priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
You haven’t seen the future lefty12 I have,
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golf clap……………………………………..
August 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
97.00raiders00 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
90.priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
You haven’t seen the future lefty12 I have,
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golf clap……………………………………..
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i think we get it man..
August 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
If we were an upper echelon team practice games like this would be acceptable,but we aren’t,we are a middle of the road-lower rung team.We run vanilla schemes,but so do the other teams.The fact remains we’ve looked like crap in both our games.I can’t believe in this team until I see something that will at least offer some hope.So far I haven’t seen anything to make me believe we will be anything but a doormat once again.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
As pissed as I am about losing to these chumps tonight, I am still optimistic about our team/coach this year. Luckily this didn’t count & hopefully we use this as a learnig experience and grow from it.
Bartender, another double of that Koolaid please. & keep it comin!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Jim harbaugh can’t wait to get Kaepernick ready to play because that bum who’s starting now he has no chance of winning with that guy.
He knows he can get it done with Kappy, it’s the future and it’s NOW!!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
It’s not about DMac, Bush, WR’s Te’s or even QB’s. It’s all about the BIG UGLIES. If you don’t win in the pits, you simply don’t win. Period
Hujack’s focus needs to be on the O-line. Forget if they are a rookie. Right now we need the best 5 athletes who can be formed and act as a single unit. Right now, tonight’s starting lineup is 60-80% short depending on who you ask. Veldheer is the only sure starter. Both guard spots, RT and possibly center are still unresolved.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
am i wrong about this? please someone help me out here.. teams that usually lose in the pre-season, end up having better years, right? last season people were wondering about how bad the chiefs were gonna be cause they lost all thier pre-season games, and we all know how that worked out..
August 20th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
J, You danm right hes the real deal. On the live chat I made a comparison with him and a young Chad Johnson. I believe he can be that are better
August 20th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
no link, I think I remember hearing it on Foxsports radio or espn radio; re: Vick not going to the Raiders.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
how did bruce campble do? anybody see?
August 20th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Hujack’s focus needs to be on the O-line. Forget if they are a rookie. Right now we need the best 5 athletes who can be formed and act as a single unit. Right now, tonight’s starting lineup is 60-80% short depending on who you ask. Veldheer is the only sure starter. Both guard spots, RT and possibly center are still unresolved.
JB tellin it like it is!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Realtruraider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
UCLA, you are not a Raiders fan go back yo the Whiners blog
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listen son,
I’m just frustrated w the people running this company that I’m a fan of. In this board we get to express our opinion, good , bad or ugly. If U don’t like my opinion, ignore it. Learn the proper posting etiquette. ‘nought said.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
On a rare positive note related to tonight’s fiasco, DHB showed up & played. I hope that we can now expect that level of play on a regular bass.
Congrats DHB!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
103.J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
am i wrong about this? please someone help me out here.. teams that usually lose in the pre-season, end up having better years, right? last season people were wondering about how bad the chiefs were gonna be cause they lost all thier pre-season games, and we all know how that worked out..
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its different with the raiders. they need to prove something before they are relevant again. they went 3-1 last year and built confidence for a coach they liked playing for. but al in his infinite wisdom chose not to keep cable. lets hope the players want to play for hue and he can win a game and get the confidence wagon rollin.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Whatever you say,Priest.When just one of them gets even close to winning a SB I might start to believe.I won’t hold my breath though.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
question regarding playing time & /or performance:
Did either Mr. Bruce Campbell (OL) or Mr. Taiwan Jones (RB) play tonight and how did they look.
I have to wait until NFLNetwork televises the game tomorrow night to watch it, I ‘ve been going by paly by play reads, pics, and recaps.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
There’s no real way to figure what these preseason game really mean. Sometimes they show you the true story of a team, sometimes they don’t, Who knows. What we do know for sure is D.b Moore is an animal. We know Boss is gonna make a lot of people forget about Zach. & we know our starters needc to stay healthy. Other than that, it’s just a bunch of televised scrimmages.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Sterling Moore is a keeper. WMcFadden is NOT. Cut his sorry ass. He can go out the door with Boyd.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
90.priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
You haven’t seen the future lefty12 I have, this is a new day. These guys are going to terriorize the NFL with their play and those who have one will be better off than those who don’t. Trust me!!
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Man, You are hillarious. What makes you think defenses won’t adapt. There could come a mean D plyer designed to chase to new super athlete. Who knows what kind of roids defenses can be built upon. You are a funny dude.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
UCLA, Alright man sorry Im new to this blog. I have ben reading for a minute so thought you were one of those fake Raiders.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
110.Ouch Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
103.J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
am i wrong about this? please someone help me out here.. teams that usually lose in the pre-season, end up having better years, right? last season people were wondering about how bad the chiefs were gonna be cause they lost all thier pre-season games, and we all know how that worked out..
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its different with the raiders. they need to prove something before they are relevant again. they went 3-1 last year and built confidence for a coach they liked playing for. but al in his infinite wisdom chose not to keep cable. lets hope the players want to play for hue and he can win a game and get the confidence wagon rollin.
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i was reading everything you said until you said something about tom cable… tom cable was a freakin joke! and dont even give me that crap about “the team played sooo hard for cable, we shouldve never let him go” look at what tom cable did for the raiders in HIS first year, and after hue-jacks first year we can start comparing numbers.. until then give it a rest cause nobody can prove it otherwise!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Bruce looked good from what I noticed. A couple pancakes & a real mean streak. He looks like he’s got something to prove. No Taiwan yet. Can’t wait to see him in action.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
question regarding playing time & /or performance:
Did either Mr. Bruce Campbell (OL) or Mr. Taiwan Jones (RB) play tonight and how did they look.
I have to wait until NFLNetwork televises the game tomorrow night to watch it, I ‘ve been going by paly by play reads, pics, and recaps.
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TJ – NO. BCampbell yes. BC is rough around the edges technique wise but is a super strong & powerful player. I think his positives outweigh his negatives right now. Given the state of our current O-Line, I’d put him at RG now. There’s nowhere to go but up and he can start making a difference right away. Well worth the 4th round pick we used for him. He will be a force at guard by the end of the year IMO.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Harbaugh is so sure of Kaepernick we gave Culpepper a try-out and signed Josh McCown.That sure is a vote of confidence and shows how married to he is to the guy.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
I think Taiwan can be another J Charles if given the opportunity. Gonna be tough to get enough touches w a healthy DMAC though…
August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
I want a Brady,Payton,Rivers,Fouts,Stabler,Plunkett,etc.-in other words a QB.
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Have you seen the free agent list and/or the draft eligible list for QBs 2012? Keep dreaming…or maybe we can extract Montana’s mastery with Elway’s natural ability and Vick’s athleticism with Favre’s durability. Call him “Montelickavre” and line him up behind Dermonte Dawson, Randall McDaniel, Larry Allen, Art Shell & Jonathan Ogden. Hand it off to Bo Jackson infused with Emmitt’s durablity and M. Faulk’s hands…then throw it to Rice ‘89, Sterling Sharpe & Cris Carter. Then we’ll be alright!
OK I’m done now
August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
well guys, lets keep our spirits high.. this could be a blessing in disquise, teams might overlook us again this season since we are losing in the pre-season..
August 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
117.J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
110.Ouch Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
103.J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
am i wrong about this? please someone help me out here.. teams that usually lose in the pre-season, end up having better years, right? last season people were wondering about how bad the chiefs were gonna be cause they lost all thier pre-season games, and we all know how that worked out..
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its different with the raiders. they need to prove something before they are relevant again. they went 3-1 last year and built confidence for a coach they liked playing for. but al in his infinite wisdom chose not to keep cable. lets hope the players want to play for hue and he can win a game and get the confidence wagon rollin.
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i was reading everything you said until you said something about tom cable… tom cable was a freakin joke! and dont even give me that crap about “the team played sooo hard for cable, we shouldve never let him go” look at what tom cable did for the raiders in HIS first year, and after hue-jacks first year we can start comparing numbers.. until then give it a rest cause nobody can prove it otherwise!
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Whatever you say MR, never said we should keep Cable, just that the wise old man chose not to. But thats ok for you if waiting another 2-3 years to be relevant again means anything. Go ahead.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
I listened to the game and did the live chat thing is there any reason I should watch the replay tomorrow? Will it just get me pissed again?
August 20th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
How to game plan when playing Oakland: RUN, Run, run… Nothing else required.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Harbaugh is so sure of Kaepernick we gave Culpepper a try-out and signed Josh McCown.That sure is a vote of confidence and shows how married to he is to the guy.
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What’s that WE nonsense???? A typo I hope!
August 20th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
120.lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Harbaugh is so sure of Kaepernick we gave Culpepper a try-out and signed Josh McCown.That sure is a vote of confidence and shows how married to he is to the guy.
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You are becoming to intellegent for this blog. Good take on Harbaugh.
August 20th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
I loved that Campbell wasn’t taking any bs from those niners
August 20th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RFFJ-it was a typo.It should have read he.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
… too bad we lost
August 20th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Aight Lefty. Scared me 4 a minute. We’re still cool, lol.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Pathetic game. Jason takes WAY too long to make a decision. He really doesn’t have what it takes to be a top quarterback. He looked like a rookie.
It reminded me of the Art Shell days.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
124.Ouch Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
117.J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
110.Ouch Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
103.J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
am i wrong about this? please someone help me out here.. teams that usually lose in the pre-season, end up having better years, right? last season people were wondering about how bad the chiefs were gonna be cause they lost all thier pre-season games, and we all know how that worked out..
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its different with the raiders. they need to prove something before they are relevant again. they went 3-1 last year and built confidence for a coach they liked playing for. but al in his infinite wisdom chose not to keep cable. lets hope the players want to play for hue and he can win a game and get the confidence wagon rollin.
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i was reading everything you said until you said something about tom cable… tom cable was a freakin joke! and dont even give me that crap about “the team played sooo hard for cable, we shouldve never let him go” look at what tom cable did for the raiders in HIS first year, and after hue-jacks first year we can start comparing numbers.. until then give it a rest cause nobody can prove it otherwise!
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Whatever you say MR, never said we should keep Cable, just that the wise old man chose not to. But thats ok for you if waiting another 2-3 years to be relevant again means anything. Go ahead.
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who is MR? oh and you continue to defend cable? why? you were the one who brought up tom cable and pretty much said you think al davis set us back 2-3 years by firing his fat a$$.. sounds to me like you wish he was still our head coach.. again i ask WHY? what did tom cable do for this football team? if you even start to say anything about 8-8 think about why we went 8-8… we scored a $hit load of points because our offensive coordinator knew how to coach our players… hue jackson i think that was his name, yeah thats it, he was the one calling the plays and, oh yeah, we scored the 6th most points in the nfl! how did tom cables playcalling work out the year before?????
August 20th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
I have to agree with Lefty, this team is not giving fans a reason to BELIEVE! 3rd and 11 and a 49er 1st down? That is not acceptable in practice, a scrimmage, anywhere! The defense was run over. Period. End of story.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
At least in last weeks game the starters looked capable-not good but not like JV players either.The same can’t be said tonight.And with all the talk about how Campbell is going to look so much better with a year under his belt under the same system all I have to say is I’m still waiting.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
125.realtruraider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
I listened to the game and did the live chat thing is there any reason I should watch the replay tomorrow? Will it just get me pissed again?
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If you are a diehard, stay away from the TV. Trust me!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
who else in here thinks hue-jack is the right guy for the job?
August 20th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Thanks guys (or gals if applicable)for the lowdown on Bruce being a Beast!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
J-Raider, That question will be answered at this time on September 12.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I not only think, I know Mr. Hue Jackson is the right man for the job as head coach of the Raiders!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Priest,it is kind of funny how you proclaim this new wave of QBs are going to take over the league,yet every year when they play the championship game the winner is a guy like Rodgers,Big Ben,Brady,Payton,Brees,even Eli.Damn,you’re right,we don’t that type of QB.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Check this out Nation!
Did we suck tonight? YES!!
But so what! It was a FREAKIN PRE SEASON GAME!
Do you remember our preseason record the year Art Shell did his second stint as Head Coach?
It was 4-1
Do you remember our regular season record that year?
2 and FREAKIN 14!!!!
These pre season games don’t mean squat! It is a glorified practice. That’s it, That’s all.
Let’s get our boys all HEALTHY, let Hue decide on the final roster and position spots, and let’s prepare for the Monday night Regular Season opener on September 12th in Denver.
Enough with the WHINING, let’s start the WINNING!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
*we don’t want that type of QB.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
ucla raider #82:
We discussed this the other day: Plunkett, Flores, Papa and the Brick are “not ever” going to say any-
thing negative against the Raiders…PERIOD. It’s their freaking job…their bread and butter on the table for themselves and their families. There boss, Mr. Al Davis, would fire them the next year. He will not tolerate anything negative, and the only think left for these anouncers to talk about that’s positive…is the past. You would do the exact same thing if you had one of their “plum” jobs, regardless of what you might say on this blog. PERIOD!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Another thing these injuries are costing us some degree of continuity. Wewont know what kind of team we have until game 5 of the regular season unfortunately.
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That would be unacceptable! The Raiders have to be ready to blast in week 1. If it take still week 5, the season is over
August 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
141.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I not only think, I know Mr. Hue Jackson is the right man for the job as head coach of the Raiders!
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Based on….?
August 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
140.beach Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
J-Raider, That question will be answered at this time on September 12.
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uncertainty.. how sad.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
If Hues handling of the Oline up to this point is any indication of what we’re going to get from him,how can you be sure of anything?
August 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
147.Gerard Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
141.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I not only think, I know Mr. Hue Jackson is the right man for the job as head coach of the Raiders!
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Based on….?
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how well do you think he coached our players last year?
August 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
My god im still fuming
August 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
2 years ago when the Saints came in and buried us in the preseason (Brees looked like he was in midseason form), I predicted they would win the Super Bowl. I am very concerned about facing this team in Prime Time next Sunday…Hopefully, the defense got a wake-up call to be better prepared the next time they take the field for a game.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Did you guys expect a bunch of rookies and mid-round picks to come out guns blazin? Moore has done really well and the other guys are going to take a lot of time.
Raider fan has to give the rooks and 2nd years time to mature. Especially given the fact the Raiders draft project players as a matter of strategy
August 20th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
149.lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
If Hues handling of the Oline up to this point is any indication of what we’re going to get from him,how can you be sure of anything?
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yeah i forgot hue was our o-line coach too, oh wait that was cable.. man cable dure did an awesome job with our o-line didnt he? (sarcasim)
August 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Terrell Pryor? Really…..
Sigh…why do Raider fans love athletic 100year developement players?
Play him at wide receiver or tight end? No freekn way. If you need a receiver or tight end, you acquire a real player….like Moore and K. Boss.
QB? I don’t know man. He wasn’t that good in college as a throwing QB.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Amchair GM…wish it were that simple. And, yes, there’s always an example that you can turn around to fit your point. The truth is that these games do matter. At least to the good teams. It’s all about dominating, winning and developing that mind frame that you’re better than your opponents. That starts in preseason. It’s especially bad when you’re telling the media “all-week” that you want to win and that it’s important to you. Then, if you get blasted away, as we did tonite, then you’re in trouble, no matter how you want to down play it. We’re in trouble, we all saw the many weaknesses this evening and we have a long, long way to go. Hope we make it.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
If Loper and Barnes are the two best players we have at their positions maybe we just don’t have the talent we believe we have.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/20/SPKL1KQ2U8.DTL
Pretty sick stuff right here. This is a hard reality and I hope the dude lives.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
J-Raider-Cable hasn’t been the Oline coach for 3 years.Hue is the HC,he decides the lineup.I may be wrong,but do you honestly believe he is putting the best line out there?With the young players we have in the line,shouldn’t they be getting as many reps as possible now,during the practice games?Unless we start stiffs like Barnes and especially Loper,why aren’t their replacements playing together to get the continuity necessary on the Oline?
August 20th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Bruce Campbell is a very raw prospect. He might not be ready till next year.
Barksdale is a rookie and has a lot to learn…..
August 20th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
# Hagar the Horrible Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Amchair GM…wish it were that simple. And, yes, there’s always an example that you can turn around to fit your point. The truth is that these games do matter. At least to the good teams. It’s all about dominating, winning and developing that mind frame that you’re better than your opponents. That starts in preseason. It’s especially bad when you’re telling the media “all-week” that you want to win and that it’s important to you. Then, if you get blasted away, as we did tonite, then you’re in trouble, no matter how you want to down play it. We’re in trouble, we all saw the many weaknesses this evening and we have a long, long way to go. Hope we make it.
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It matters to me because I HATE the freakin FLAMING 49ers!
But in the larger scheme of things, it does not determine whether or not we are going to the Playoffs this season or not….
Using your logic, I guess Philly isn’t going to do anything this season either right? They got blasted 24-14.
New Orleans got rocked 27-14 so write them off, they’re going nowhere!
Indy lost 16-3…stick a fork in em they’re done!
Carolina lost 20-10 so they’re hopeless too!
See how ridiculous some of you guys sound.
All teams are going through the same thing….
Pre season wins are PYRITE aka FOOLS GOLD!
WE sucked today. Does it make me happy??? Hell No!
But am I panicking????? HELL NO.
I just want our guys to get healthy and lets go do this thing!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
S&B,I don’t expect Barksdale to start until sometime later in the season.However,Hue has stated Wiz will start either at LG or C.If that is the case,and he isn’t feeding us a line of crap,Why isn’t he in the lineup NOW.If he isn’t better than Loper,he was a wasted pick and will be a bust.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
159.lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
J-Raider-Cable hasn’t been the Oline coach for 3 years.Hue is the HC,he decides the lineup.I may be wrong,but do you honestly believe he is putting the best line out there?With the young players we have in the line,shouldn’t they be getting as many reps as possible now,during the practice games?Unless we start stiffs like Barnes and especially Loper,why aren’t their replacements playing together to get the continuity necessary on the Oline?
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i dont know, maybe ask our new oline coach??
pretty sure they know more about the oline than we do..
August 20th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
If he isn’t better than Loper,he was a wasted pick and will be a bust.
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how many weeks into the regular season are we again? oh yeah thats just you jumping to coclusions.. lol
August 20th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
I like what I’ve seen of Kevin Boss so far. The dude can block and he can catch the ball, if it’s thrown to him. He would have had a TD on that roll out, but Campbell couldn’t make the throw. Yet, we hear from Hue all the time that Campbell can develop into something great. I’m still looking for those signs, those little nuggets of gold. I’ll settle for a few flakes at this time.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
147.Gerard Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
141.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I not only think, I know Mr. Hue Jackson is the right man for the job as head coach of the Raiders!
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Based on….?
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how well do you think he coached our players last year?
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He coached them very well. I think he did an excellent job and the stats speak for themselves, but imo the ‘right coach’ for the Raiders is the one who will get us winning. I hope he can do that, but you’re right, Hue was awesome last year.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
amen to that ArmChair GM
August 20th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Carolina will suck.Indy will suck until Payton returns.NO and Philly are proven good teams not the same as us in the least.We have to be compared to teams like the whiners and Arizona.When you do that things don’t look too bright.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
your effin right he coached them good! he WAS awesome last year!!!
August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
168.lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Carolina will suck.Indy will suck until Payton returns.NO and Philly are proven good teams not the same as us in the least.We have to be compared to teams like the whiners and Arizona.When you do that things don’t look too bright.
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how are the iggles a proven team? they might have a proven coach, but imo they arent in any better shape than us..
August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Everyday,everything I read,everything I hear says Wiz is a beast,he is by far one of our 5 best linemen.This from the HC.If we believe him and take his word for it,why isn’t one of his 5 best linemen playing?
August 20th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
They played in the NFC championship game last year.Are you kidding me.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Excuse me,they were in the playoffs.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
165.Hagar the Horrible Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
I like what I’ve seen of Kevin Boss so far. The dude can block and he can catch the ball, if it’s thrown to him. He would have had a TD on that roll out, but Campbell couldn’t make the throw. Yet, we hear from Hue all the time that Campbell can develop into something great. I’m still looking for those signs, those little nuggets of gold. I’ll settle for a few flakes at this time.
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Personally, it scares the cra.p out of me that we are pinning our seasons hopes on a QB that openly admits that he saw a wide open receiver in the end zone and made a concious decision to NOT throw it to him.
Sue me, but that really concerns me.
August 20th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Excuse me,they were in the playoffs
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well at least you know the eagles have made it to the nfc champ game, what only like 6 times in the last ten years? yeah i guess they are proven losers in the playoffs hahaha
August 20th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
# Raider J Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I watched OSU v. Wisc rebroadcast recently and Pryor’s passing game needs much work. If the Raiders get him, it wont be to start QB any time soon unless he’s a super fast learner. But hey, with our current QB roster, Pryor could sit or do some wildcat for a couple yrs. If he learns QB then good, if not then use his talents at a different position. I’d prefer 5th rd but I wouldn’t hate using a 3rd rd pick on him, especially with the expected compensatory picks for Nnamdi & Gallery
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I am a huge Badger fan, used to go to the games all the time. I watch Big 10 football, and that game Pryor had was probably one of his worst. Wisconsin was on a roll that day and really wanted to demolish Ohio State at home….and they did.
If we can get Pryor for a low pick, I am all for it. The whole point is to add talent to the team and let them complete for spots.
I mean, we did draft a kicker in the first round before….right?
August 21st, 2011 at 12:05 am
It’s hard for me to shake this off as “just a preseason game” becuz of just how totally dominated they were in VERY FACET of the game. They were pushed around, out muscled, out played in every way,ouit coached, out smarted, just in every way dominated…by a team expected by everyone to be mediocre at best.
Yes, it really was THAT BAD.
August 21st, 2011 at 12:05 am
I love the fact after the game, my wife walks out and says bye the way some Raider fans shot two guys and Bryan Stow’ed another in the bathroom. The media is all over it on amateur night. Some of us play right into the sterotype with gangsta mystic, hence my handle.
August 21st, 2011 at 2:10 am
Watching the game on re broad. It not as bad as the outcome indicated. The 1st team D stopped the first 2 whiner drives with picks…
Our third stringers got handled tho
August 21st, 2011 at 7:47 am
Disappointed in the effort.
Disappointed in the offensive lack of production and getting Campbell “dinged”.
Disappointed to see them get pushed around defensively.
Oh well glad it’s only preseason…….??………
August 21st, 2011 at 9:20 am
priesttj Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Incidentally Andrew Luck is another great athlete who can run and pass. Terrell Pryor can beat passing for 300 yards and runnning for another 100 and 2 TD’s.
That kid will be unstoppable in 3 years……….believe it.
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I’m telling you, Father Pride & Poise has a screw loose the way he keeps going on about Pryor, who at best will be Ronald Curry reincarnate. What’s more, he’s suspended for the first five games. When you think he’ll be ready to play?
August 21st, 2011 at 9:23 am
Bottom line with a team facing the challenges of a dispirited fan base, a solid decade of near futility, a short off season, uncertainty on the OL and in the secondary, is they must play each game competitively, and that includes the first halves of preseason games. Didn’t happen last night.
August 21st, 2011 at 10:09 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I am gonna go throw up I’m about through being a Raider fan!!!!!
August 21st, 2011 at 10:11 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I am gonna go throw up I’m about through being a Raider fan!!!!! I knew the NINERS were gonna be playin the REAL BULLY BALL!! maybe I’ll just root for them!
August 21st, 2011 at 10:35 am
I know that these are only pre-season games, but its hard for me not to think that its startin to sound and look a lot like those Joe Bugel days with this “raiders football quotes” being made,im having nighmare flashbacks with these “raider football” stuff.
And by the way get rid of W.Mcfadden,Boyd, and Ware that flat out stink, and shoul not be trying out for any NFL teams. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
August 21st, 2011 at 10:51 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
OK, we looked like crap. But it’s important not to overreact.
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What’s with the “we” blast? Did you play? What position?
August 21st, 2011 at 11:17 am
Yeah ,I know it’s a preseason game but it was still like Chewing on Tin Foil for 3 hours…
August 21st, 2011 at 11:38 am
Gerard Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
147.Gerard Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
141.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I not only think, I know Mr. Hue Jackson is the WRONG man for the job as head coach of the Raiders!
August 21st, 2011 at 11:39 am
# J-Raider Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
your effin right CABLE coached them good! he WAS awesome last year!!!
August 21st, 2011 at 11:43 am
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
“That has nothing to do with tonight,” Jackson said. “Tonight, we played Raider football. We played like a Raider. That’s just the truth. Let’s call it like it is. We did play as well as this football team can play, and they’ll be the first to tell you that, and we don’t need to get better.”
August 21st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
# Whos on first Says:
August 21st, 2011 at 12:00 pm
If Al would have just helped me change my under wear when I was a lad I would feel so much better about myself.
August 21st, 2011 at 12:04 pm
HEY GUYS LOOKS LIKE BULLY BALL IS BACK!!!! LMAO
August 21st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
CHARGERS NINERS GIVE US ANY TEAM EXCEPT THE RAIDERS!!! GET OUT OF TOWN RAIDERS GO TO LA!!!!
August 21st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Don’t really think a concussion will speed up JSoup’s decision making process.
August 21st, 2011 at 2:52 pm
. . .Maybe they try electroshock next week. . .on Edwards. . .
August 21st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
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August 21st, 2011 at 4:33 pm
dvrick is such an idiot. he spends all his time on our board and never even gets a response from anyone. what a pathetic retard. he must not have much of a life. poor guy.
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:26 am
# rob_raider Says:
August 21st, 2011 at 4:33 pm
dvrick is such a smart guy. He spends time on our board and tells us the real truth about the RAIDERS. what a bunch of pathetic retards we are for not listening to him!! he must a great life.what a great guy.
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:27 am
# rob_raider Says:
August 21st, 2011 at 4:33 pm
dvrick is such a smart guy. He spends time on our board and tells us the real truth about the RAIDERS. what a bunch of pathetic retards we are for not listening to him!! he must have a great life.what a great guy.
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:27 am
# rob_raider Says:
August 21st, 2011 at 4:33 pm
That dvrick is such a smart guy. He spends time on our board and tells us the real truth about the RAIDERS. what a bunch of pathetic retards we are for not listening to him!! he must have a great life.what a great guy.
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 am
# lefty12 Says:
August 20th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
*we don’t want that type of QB.We want J.RUSSELL back.
August 22nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
# raidertalk Says:
August 21st, 2011 at 2:10 am
Watching the game on re broad. It is worse then the outcome indicated. The 1st team D couldn’t stop the first 2 NINER drives…
Our third stringers got handled just as much
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