Jason Campbell misses practice, but Ford, McFadden, Scott are back
By Jon Becker
Monday, August 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Jerry McDonald just checked in from Raiders practice this afternoon, where he reports that quarterback Jason Campbell (concussion) is not practicing.
Coach Hue Jackson had said he expected Campbell to be back at practice Monday after suffering a concussion during a preseason loss to the 49ers on Saturday night. There’s no immediate word on when Campbell is expected to be back practicing.
The good news for the Raiders is that wide receiver Jacoby Ford (broken hand), running back Darren McFadden (broken orbital bone) and defensive end Trevor Scott (ACL surgery) all practiced on Monday. For Scott, it was the first time he’s been able to practice since undergoing surgery for a torn ACL last November.
More to come later once Jerry returns from practice.
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August 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Toe Jam Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Pryor priority = Raider future QB, per Hue Jackson/Al Davis
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sauce?
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Campbell is pouting!
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Most of the analysts seem to think that the Raiders drafted Prior as a receiver.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
By Mel Kiper Jr.
ESPN Insider
Archive In 1978, the Oakland Raiders took a fifth-round flier on a quarterback out of Kentucky named Derrick Ramsey. The Raiders were a winning operation and had Ken Stabler at quarterback, and the plan was to take a shot that Ramsey’s size (6-foot-4, 230 pounds) could work elsewhere on the field. While not dominant, Ramsey did successfully convert to tight end, and in a few years was catching 52 passes for 674 yards for the Raiders. Years later, Oakland also drafted Ronald Curry in Round 7 of the 2002 draft, and the former North Carolina quarterback switched to wide receiver and had three seasons of 50-plus catches during a good little career.
Neither guy was a star, but neither was expected to be. This is late-round value, and while maligned for their drafting based on value, the Raiders have been quietly as good as any team in recent years when it comes to finding talent in later rounds. They may have done it again.
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He’s not the only one who thinks that.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Mum-O-Killowe Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Don’t sign Pryor for less than 5 years! It’s might take some time, and we want to reap the rewards, not the Eagles!
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August 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
EmailPrintComments58By Bill WilliamsonJust when we had our hands full with one young quarterback with a questionable future, the AFC West has added another in the form of Terrelle Pryor.
Oakland picked Pryor in the third round of the supplemental draft. The former Ohio State quarterback is highly athletic, but he is unpolished as a quarterback. There has been some talk he could be moved to receiver because of his size and speed.
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Jerry likes him.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Tebow roast? lol. Probably no swearing allowed, everyone drinking apple juice… I’ll pass.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
And the fantastic news continues:
Mr. D. McFadden practicing and ready rock and roll;
Mr. Ford ready to put it into overdrive, now he has some meaningful competition from within the team, a.k.a, Wow;
Mr. Scott is back, man I hope Mr. Jackson and Bresnahan play him at WLB [ so do the DBs];
oh and in case you had not heard the Raiders drafted Mr. Pryor.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
bspn wants him traded to KC for 5 rounder.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
7.Sullivan44 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Tebow roast? lol. Probably no swearing allowed, everyone drinking apple juice… I’ll pass.
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It’s a pretty sad day when a guy gets attacked for being a Christian.
Isn’t that allowed anymore? And what’s your post got to do with football MR?
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
I think with the new CBA you cannot sign a rookie for more then 4 years. Im not positive on this.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
EnglandRaider, I wasn’t “attacking” him for being a Christian. That’s a little dramatic, isn’t it? If I’m making fun of someone for having toilet paper stuck to their shoe, am I “attacking” them? Same thing here.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Realtru, bspn leaked it, just repeating what they said.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Trevor Scott thought he was starting at WLB last year, then someone had the bright idea to put Groves at that spot instead.
I wonder where Trevor Scott will take snaps this year?
I wonder if we go back to him in the nickel package instead of MM34?
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Moderator Alert. Clean it up folks.
I’m pushing the ‘You can no longer post when angry’ rule that should go into effect.
44 tried to be tricky but got busted. Look for your posts. Not there. All gone. This is a Raider blog.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Hagar The Horrible Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Sullivan44…you’re really off the wall ragging on Boller’s wife. You know absolutely nothing about their relationship, and the fact that she may be a beautiful woman doesn’t mean she’s a bimbo, or that she embarrassed by him or she facing ridicule. You’re talking like a fool with his head-up-his-azz. If you’re a true Raiders, then leave family members of players out of your comments. Show some class.
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Jeff Garcia’s wife is much hotter
http://mike100915.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/camella.jpg
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
realtruraider Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
I think with the new CBA you cannot sign a rookie for more then 4 years. Im not positive on this.
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1st rounders only
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Bad Eggs Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Moderator Alert. Clean it up folks.
I’m pushing the ‘You can no longer post when angry’ rule that should go into effect.
44 tried to be tricky but got busted. Look for your posts. Not there. All gone. This is a Raider blog.
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Dont worry, he has 82 other screen names to post… troll under.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Thanks, Bcz24!
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
On the Petros & Money Show, 57 am radio, out of Los angeles, they were talking to a beat writer who apparently knows Al Davis pretty good. He says Al has been evolving over the last few years and that Al now thinks it’s better to have a QB who can pass and run. A pocket QB is too much of a target and can’t make that big play on the ground when the opportunity arrives. He also said that Al is not too hot about Campbell and that it’s his last year of the contract. Sure, if Campbell delivers, he stay and rightly so. But, he feels that Al wants to give Pryor an opportunity at the QB spot first and if it doesn’t work out…there’s a chance that Pryor could be a good receiver with the “hands” like Gates down in discharger land. Food for thought.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Jacoby Ford is back! Man I like that guy!
D. Moore is also looking good.
Neither of those guys should run back the ball. Keep ‘em healthy. We don’t want them suffering a case of the JLH malady.
Besides, with the rule change kickers like Sebass will put it in the end zone every time.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
NFL NETWORK WILL BE TALKING PRYOR AND HOW HE WILL DO
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Spec. Teams is 33% of the game and a big reason why the Raiders were contenders last year….why take those 2 off the return game…makes no sense
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Jacoby Ford is back! Man I like that guy!
D. Moore is also looking good.
Neither of those guys should run back the ball. Keep ‘em healthy. We don’t want them suffering a case of the JLH malady.
Besides, with the rule change kickers like Sebass will put it in the end zone every time.
give Taiwan heavy pr and kr practice to see if he can’t overtake these guys but we need playmakers to make plays! Deion Sanders and Tim Brown were return men while being star players
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Tjball:
Injury.
Also,JLH was never the same after that hit.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Besides, with the rule change kickers like Sebass will put it in the end zone every time.
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You wont see more touchbacks this year. They will be dropping mortar kicks to the 1 or 2 yard line forcing a return. Seabass did it against AZ and we blast LSH at the 11 yard line. High kicks near the goalline will be the new fad
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Mora likes him!
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:48 pm
All of that is true Inoneword but they are going to be great playmakers as receivers and I don’t want to see either of those guys getting injured on a run back. Tim Brown was a lot bigger than Ford.
Others, like Miller can do it.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I drafted Denarius Moore in my fantasy draft. I’m going to blow every one’s mind when he tears up the league.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Liked what i heard on NFL NETWORK of pryor i do hope he will be the QB and jus have him sit and learn
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Ray I have been able to pick up Mr. Moore on the FA/waiver wire every time.
I’m curious when he will go in the cctimes league.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
The whole change with the new rule in run backs was the wrong way to go although they’ve changed the spot before.
I think the commissionar went for it to avoid injury but I forget.
Goodell comes up with a new rule every time someone gets hit.
Jack Tatum wouldn’t have liked him.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
TheGeneral…thanks for the heads up on Pryor on NFL network. Like what Jim Mora said. The dude, Pryor, looks like a “monster”…looks like the real deal. We might have struck “gold again.” Nice going Al.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
I plan on drafting DMo17 late in my draft as well.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Brien, Campbell needs to clear his head, concushion, we’re down to 2 already. And the choices aren’t choice.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Mr. Higgins suffered that tenacious hit from a pass by Mr. J. Russell.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
29.Raider Ray Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I drafted Denarius Moore in my fantasy draft. I’m going to blow every one’s mind when he tears up the league.
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Al doesn’t due too well with 1st round picks but he does pretty well in the later rounds. Moore being a 5th round pick.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Mr. Pryor could also be the next Warren Moon.
All the complaints/criticisms about Terrelle were also made about another Big Ten QB, Tom Brady who went when the 6th or 7th round as I recall.
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Once we have everyone back healthy WATCH OUT we are going to tear it up
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
We are gold in the 4th round too!
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Jerry has been for getting Pryor from the git go.
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LET ME MAKE THIS PLAIN
JERRY STOLE THE PRYOR IDEA FROM ME. GO LOOK AT THE ARCHIVES THE DAY TRESSELL GOT CANNED. I ASKED OHIORAIDER IF HE THOUGHT WE SHOULD GET PRYOR.
LAME JERRY!!!!! Lame
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I have to admit that Jacoby Ford was sensational running the ball back last year.
Now THAT was exciting.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Jacoby = Explosive!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Obviously.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
McFadden, Ford = hope for Raiders O
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RaiderRetribution…I could live with that. Warren Moon was a great player and he could kill you with the pass or the run. He did both very exceptional.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Mr. Pryor could also be the next Warren Moon.
All the complaints/criticisms about Terrelle were also made about another Big Ten QB, Tom Brady who went when the 6th or 7th round as I recall.
i don’t know about comparing him to Tom Brady that’s a 1 in a million however, if they don’t call the tuck rule, how different would Brady/Bellichecks carreers have been?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Jeff Garcia’s wife is much hotter
http://mike100915.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/camella.jpg
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Jeff Garcia’s wife is much hotter
http://mike100915.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/camella.jpg
(please no external links that do not pertain to football)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Pryor is lucky as a rookie going to Oakland. Training camp in the Napa Sanoma valley, great weather, excellent facilities, great team mates and coaches who will embrace the dude. He, Pryor, also said he likes the raiders (may or may not be true) but it was the smart thing to say. With his 5 game suspension, there is really very little pressure on him. He can just relax and learn and he’ll have that much more of a starting run next year. Ya, enjoy California, the best state in the union, period.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Campbell out and Edwards, Boller pick up where they left off Sat — worst day of passing so far at camp
2 minutes ago
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Don’t recall Pryor being a great passer at OSU – more of a Vince Young or Pat White-type QB
If he turns into a Warren Moon, we’ll all be stoked
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
The kickoff rule is one that might actually help the Raiders.
No more returns!
One could say (probably in error but…) that the Raiders would’ve gone 10-6 and won the division last year had it been in place.
Take back the 7 pts. AZ got on that return to start the game and we win.
Take back the 7 we gave away in Jacksonville and same deal.
I know it’s a stretch, but for some reason I worry more about other teams scoring on us on KO returns than I am excited about our own chances to do the same.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
SR, he threw 47 TD’s in 3 yrs, it works for me, he knows how to get the ball in the end zone!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Im still fuming a lil bit yall…..sunday night better not be saturday’s bs is all i know or it will get ugly at the coliseum. Glad to hear we got some starters back in DMAC and Ford. Should help offense. Ive always liked Scott but that damn acl injury is no joke
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
There are a lot of questions about Pryor as a quarterback one of which is accuracy.
Which is why using our only (3rd) pick in the draft on him was a gamble that could have been better used on the line.
Most of the “analysists” are saying that the Raiders are going to make him a receiver. Do we need him as a receiver?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
51.inonewordraider Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Campbell out and Edwards, Boller pick up where they left off Sat — worst day of passing so far at camp
2 minutes ago
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Well …
Looks like it might be a little easier to keep Pryor on as a 3rd QB.
Might keep Edwards and Boeller until week 6 though.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Im still fuming a lil bit yall…..sunday night better not be saturday’s bs is all i know or it will get ugly at the coliseum. Glad to hear we got some starters back in DMAC and Ford. Should help offense. Ive always liked Scott but that damn acl injury is no joke
(Let’s tone down the angry rhetoric. We don’t need any more violence or threats of violence, thank you.)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Pryor can certainly complete passes. He does NOT need to have the Raider nation shove him under center before he’s ready. That would be the kiss of death.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Bo Jackson
Rocket Ismail
T. Pryor?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Boller and Edwards stinking up the joint lol…..yeah Edwards is our new Gannon….gtfo
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
England, I do not think Al is going to let this guy get nicked as an end. Think AD football, purely speculation, he will be a starting QB.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Gerard:
I hear you. Sebass should make it a touchback every time.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Moderator spare me….my anger level came down…but i can rise fast again so please leave me alone….thanks
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
62.860Todd Christensen Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
England, I do not think Al is going to let this guy get nicked as an end. Think AD football, purely speculation, he will be a starting QB.
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Probably.
Especially since ESPN says he’s going to be a receiver.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Boller and Edwards stinking up the joint lol…..yeah Edwards is our new Gannon….gtfo
(Please do not use acronyms that represent swear words)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Seabass touches back substance abuse everytime
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
It’s BS PN for a reason!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Ok Mike how about this acronym……..F U C K Y O U!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Ok Mike how about this acronym……..REDACTED!
(That will not be tolerated. This is your first warning)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Stop listening to “analysis” as most of them don’t know “diddly squat.” Most of them dislike the Raiders (Carter, Sapp, Jackson, etc.) and there statements are usually diggs against us. If Pryor would have been drafted by New England, Dallas, New York etc., (one of the sweetheart teams) then all their comments would be totally different and much more positive. Don’t listed to the jerks.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Mike the Phaggarator…..go eat some nuclear waste you chump
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
B,
Why do you always feed the trolls?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Here goes second warning………go eat out JonBenet Ramsey
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
J…..why do you still believe in that fraudalent DT combo and embarassing interior oline?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Well, when you don’t listen to what other people say then all you hear is what you want to hear and that usually distorts reality.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
B, calm down, we need you here! lol
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
J….u let me have my hothead time….it takes me 48 hours to calm down so I’ll be cool by Tues morning…u know this already
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Here goes second warning………go eat out JonBenet Ramsey
(This is not an offending post)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
860TC….i feel ya but dammit being antagonzied at work in SF today and lunchtime sent me over. Dmac and Ford made mme feel better but that punk Mike needs to rest it now
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
u let me have my hothead time
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LOL!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
BSPN distorts reality. They try to create controversy, instead of REPORTING THE NEWS! They try to stir things up, look at the Idiots at the SF game, stirred up punks.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Gerard Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
The kickoff rule is one that might actually help the Raiders.
No more returns!
One could say (probably in error but…) that the Raiders would’ve gone 10-6 and won the division last year had it been in place.
Take back the 7 pts. AZ got on that return to start the game and we win.
Take back the 7 we gave away in Jacksonville and same deal.
I know it’s a stretch, but for some reason I worry more about other teams scoring on us on KO returns than I am excited about our own chances to do the same.
ford and moore might be best return duo in the league, it’s a strength of our team. talking about losing games were they ran one back on us what about the chiefs game were we don’t win without the return
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
QUESTION: Is this “Mike the Moderator” dude for real, or is he just somebody’s sock puppet?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Mike I bet yor necro ass wasnt offended u sick fk
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
J…..why do you still believe in that fraudalent DT combo and embarassing interior oline?
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Is there a particular play or plays where you can justify your Kelly propoganda?
And since when did I support a Loper-Satele-Carlisle interior Oline?
I think we need to start Heyer-Wiz-Campbell.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Mike, just bifercate the site into Kiddie table with potty mouths and a site for grown ups…everyone will be happy and still come out to play.
T. Pryor seen wearing #56, starting OLB for your Oakland Raiders.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Im sick of watching this BS….i’ll do it but I know u cats wont…but these players need to be called out in ublic….no whats up or good lucks from the B@uce….ima tell neggas to man up and sto forgettin their roots and how hard they fought to get here….stop being wimps and win this town over once and for all
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Yep easy to justify my Kelly truth….not propaganda…see his career? Case closed….fk him….go back to archives I supported him bbigtime!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Kelly, Seymour and Bryant (to a lesser extent) pass rush well.
But Lord have mercy, they never stay home to stop the run.
Need a Jerry Ball/Grady Jackson dou in the middle to plug that hole.
Then again, the DTs have jack all to do with us being killed on tosses and sweeps vs. the whiners.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Lowdown, he has to sign before he Raiders Up!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Seymour’s full max for us is being limited having him go u against constant double teams….on those first two drives Kelly looked like total schit as usual. When play wasnt to be made he half asses it ALL THE FKIN TIME!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
We didn’t look good in that Saturday game.
It was always going to be true that we would miss both Aso and Miller and that Al changing the OL would cause disruption.
But there were also a lot of injuries-rookie van Dyke playing corner for CJ and all the rest of it.
They stopped the whiners i think on the five yard line and ended that long drive.
Also, the Raiders pretty much took the 1st team out after the quarter but the whiners kept theirs in the game.
Us going for it on 4th down inside the five was dumb.
Whatever happened to the John Madden rule: “You always take the points”.
Going for it is always a 50/50 gamble and that’s a lousy bet.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
You rants should be at Wimbley and Groves.
Groves is so bad, he was still out there in the 3rd qtr.
Wimbley gave up the edge, outflanked the announcers called it, a few times.
Boyd couldn’t cover Davis.
Couldn’t get off the field on several THIRD downs.
I’d certainly take Vince Wolfork on the team, but we’d still have Wimbley getting outflanked on the edge, and Groves running around clueless.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Downlow man is at least correct about our vaunted DTs….kelly and bryant especially dont know how to play the run….but all i hear is this haggot ass gap discipline schit or the de’s didnt do their job….go look up first responsibility for a DT!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Im sick of watching this BS….i’ll do it but I know u cats wont…but these players need to be called out in ublic….no whats up or good lucks from the B@uce….ima tell neggas to man up and sto forgettin their roots and how hard they fought to get here….stop being wimps and win this town over once and for all
(NO RACIAL SLURS)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
860-damn…
B&c., Don’t get Al’s fascination with Kelly, nor the money paid to him.
Sapp was laughing out his @zz when he endorsed Kelly.
Bryant is servicable and Hendu is one play and done.
Been a long time since we had a wreaking crew at DT.
Darrel Russel and Russel Maryland is the last best combo that comes to mind…
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
England, first and goal at the 2 should of got it done.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Have u not seen me on Groves today? He sucks the big one and aint tough for schit just like Kelly….all them big southern negga rick ross beards and yall sum justin beiber c”nts on the field
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Mike has to be MR.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Seymour’s full max for us is being limited having him go u against constant double teams….
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Doesn’t matter where you line him up, Seymour will get double teamed.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
That’s right the two.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Jim Plunkett should be coming up in the next few moments of NFL Network, on best backup QB’s. Ya, the dude only won two Super Bowls and was MVP in one of them. Heisman trophy winner as well, but had the misfortune orf being drafted by New England when they sucked.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Wimbley is not a LB….oh weell he at least can bring something to the defense….Groves sucks
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Have u not seen me on Groves today?
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Just got here.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Monday practice Notes
Passing gmae looked ugly…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_pre_season
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
B&c, I speak 8 languages and you have me scrambling to the dictionary to translate…lol
In essence, I think you find both their persona and their play reprehensible? If so, well said…I think.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
J….i like u bruh…i do but youre wrong….on the run who would get doubled Hendu or Seymour….next….aced ya again…..back to lab aka drawing board
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Wimbley is a LB. He plays hand in the dirt too but he is an LB.
Groves looked like he was bout to break in the back half of last season. Not ready to write him off especially with Goethel limping off todays practice field.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
“Most of the “analysists” are saying that the Raiders are going to make him a receiver.”
Most of the analysts don’t know squat. If they had anything to offer society they would get real jobs.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
But Lord have mercy, they never stay home to stop the run.
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But the runs are going to the edge.
And we had several 3rd downs that we couldn’t get off the field.
Baffles me how you guys put that on the DTs.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
I was thinking the same thing… the mods in here wouldnt have a conversation they would just dump him, or at the least delete his ‘offensive posts’. Plus the weasel fck troll MR was in here the other night saying B is the reason people got shot. Hes a troll pos
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Downlow man….u need a 9th language….PISSED THE FK OFF
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Er, for any of you with knowledge, are there any run-stuffing DTs about to get axed on other teams?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Why can’t we ever stop the run?
It looks like no committment to me.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Yeah im the reason lol…glad MR HAS GIVEN ME THAT MUCH OWER……lol
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Where did the mod pus go? MR logged off when he got called out?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
MR jacks off with cat vomit
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
B&c.
Indeed, you do it well. Continue, hoensty is refreshing…
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm
We could draft a run stuffing DT in the first round next year.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
We CAN and DO stop the run… its the big play that kills us. Running, Passing, Kr/Prs. We cant stop the big play.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Kirk u right thats why two UTs start again….no its gap discipline lol
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Can Pryor practice this preseason?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
We dont stop the run…..we tell teams….”Dont stop til run enough….keep on to the TOUCHDOWN….Dont til you get enough”
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Kirk no Al only gonna draft a pass rushiing DT in first
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:52 pm
aced ya again
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If you say so, young man.
LMFAO @ “again”, by the way. Next time will be the first time.
So why is it Kelly’s teammates and coaches disagree with you?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Pryor the best 3rd rounder this year..I would have gladly offered DHB for a forth rounder to then select Pryor.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Tommy Kelly cant stop the runs on field or in his Michael Kelly sponsored Fruit of the Looms
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Went to poker game tonight and got rained out.
Got to the house, we’re sitting at the table…guy to my left always calls no matter what…I’m sitting there, stogie in one hand and and a flush in the other and it starts to rain outside.
Then it rains harder and harder and then it just starts coming down like it’s the end of the world and there’s thunder and lightning going on and the guy’s roof starts to leak and we all walking around with fuk’n buckets.
Unbelieveable.
That’s got to be a first. A poker game rained out.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Bcz24 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
We CAN and DO stop the run… its the big play that kills us. Running, Passing, Kr/Prs. We cant stop the big play.
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False! We stop the run Sometimes!
Many of these “big plays” are blossomed from plays the offense designed to get 3-4 yards.
Much of this is due tho our front 7 getting BLOCKED. That’s right folks the secret to our decade long poor run D is caused by getting BLOCKED!
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
29th in run defense is more than allowing a few big runs…see jet and texans games as example.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Jhill please…you said everytime Seymour out there he gets doubled….thats false old film junkie…you been wrong on DT issue for years now
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Oh yeah coaches and teammates? Lol jhill kwame harris,ashley lelie and farglass are clear examples of how much you lose on this
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
weasel fck troll MR
(These kind of swear word abbreviations are not acceptable)
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Saturday I saw a bunch of guys being blown off the LOS. And I saw linebackers falling down and unable to get up.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
DTs on our team are good enough to get us to plenty of 3rd downs.
Who’s fault is it we can’t get off the field on 3rd downs?
Tommy Kelly?
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
We dont stop the run…..we tell teams….”Dont stop til run enough….keep on to the TOUCHDOWN….Dont til you get enough”
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Is this English? Make sense plaese.
No, I don’t know what you mean.
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
89052RAIDER Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
29th in run defense is more than allowing a few big runs…see jet and texans games as example.
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I did the math my friend, and I am aware that the big plays count, but if you took away the 12 runs of more than 30 yards last year we averaged under 3.7 ypc allowed, would have put us in the top 3 in run defense. Thats it, 12 plays dropped us to the bottom of the NFL. I say it again, if the team could figure out how to stop the run and play EVERY down, we would be a very good run defense
That said, we CANT stop the big play, as evidenced by the 53 yard TD run Saturday. Until someone fixes that we will always be in the bottom of the run d standings
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Mike the Moderator Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
weasel fck troll MR
(These kind of swear word abbreviations are not acceptable)
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B10w m3 MR
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Watching replay of SF game. You guys should not be too worried. 1st team offense moved the ball on the 49ers 1st team defense on 2 consecutive drives for scoring position – scoringin the redzone will be fixed. Most certainly.
1st team defense actually played well. 49ers moved the ball on certain players, namely Boyd, Branch and DVD (and Groves poor play at times). Boyd and DVD are not 1st team but only filling in. Boyd really was not good in this game. DVD gave up one play. Really nothing to be concerned about except Branch.
Looking at Wiz, Campbell & Barksdale now …these boyz are good! These are your bullies Hue!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
you said everytime Seymour out there he gets doubled
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Well actually, you said that.
But to keep it flowing, you’re trying to tell me that John Henderson should be playing Seymour’s spot, and Seymour should be playing Kelly’s spot so Seymour can play avoid being doubled.
I don’t see any team leaving a G to deal with Seymour one on one. Just not going happen.
And if it would happen, you really think that switch wouldn’t have been made already?
You think Al Davis cares more about Tommy Kelly’s success than Richard Seymour?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
And chances are Goethel will start OLB over Groves.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Tommy FAILY has started at LDE,NT,RDE and UT in his time in oakland…..whats the common themse here Jhill? …”put it together I rock hoes yall rock fellas”
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
I’d like to see Goethel start at middle linebacker.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Outside of that, 49ers really moved the ball and chalked up yards vs players you probably won’t even see in the regular season! No kiddin a bunch of backups and in some cases 3rd teamers beginning in the 2Q. I didn’t even recognize half of those guys! Thats when they began scoring.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Lotsa sour grapes on the Chefs blog. They all think Pryor won’t work (Rosenhouse doesn’t represent “slouches”) and they keep referring to hinm as a TE. Exclusively.
Also; digging on the Raiders lack of 2nd through 4th round picks in ‘12 but don’t refer to potential compensatory picks (Cryptkeeper Clayton of (B)ESPN conservatively predicts 3rd & 4th round compensatory picks for Oakland. Might be able to add a 5th. So there).
Now you know how badly KC wanted Pryor. Cassell has looked horrid this preseason. Jamaal Charles, on the other hand, looks just like last year’s edition.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I’d like to see Goethel start for any team in the AFC not called the Raiders…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Jhill and no guard wants it with Hendu….notice he doesnt go backwards vs two guys? Seymour does….a RG is better matchup for Richard
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Kirk Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
I’d like to see Goethel start at middle linebacker.
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You gotta be kidding
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
has started at LDE,NT,RDE and UT in his time in oakland…..whats the common themse here Jhill?
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He’s versatile?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Code Black?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Looking at Wiz, Campbell & Barksdale now …these boyz are good! These are your bullies Hue!
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Thanks for the analysis…Lot of Raiders jumping off the bridge…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Jhill u admitted on this blog basically you had no idea about the DT thing until Madden taught ya
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I have to admit… I have not been overwhelmed by romac either. … that Guy needs to step it up…I don’t care if he was our first rounder… atleast dhb showed me something. .. finally
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Always a fkin CODE BLACK! im pissed but that aint changing bruh!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
this dude won 31 games in college, not 20 or 16 or 1 season but three fucn seasons. hes a stud you wait and watch.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Antispy, yeah i was just on the KC blog for a minute…
Pretty funny they want him to be a bust of course…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Tommy FAILY has started at LDE,NT,RDE and UT in his time in oakland…..whats the common themse here Jhill? …”put it together I rock hoes yall rock fellas”
(Next time you post, It would be appreciated if you use proper English)
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Versatile? lol….Kelly jack of all trades….master of none…..jhill what has the run defenses looked like with Kelly starting?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Young B,
You are completely avoiding the questions, and just throwing stuff out there.
How is it the DTs are blamed for the MANY 3rd downs we couldn’t get off the field?
How are DTs to blame for runs that go to the edge?
Why id Wauffle starting Seymour at NT instead of Henderson?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Terp, how long before we insert BCAMPBELL into the starting lineup?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Mike I’ll gladly use one of the adoring females of your family next time…sex is the universal language
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Pryor is a good pickup. If he can learn the QB position, this team will be scary unstoppable in the distant future (assuming key playas are kept)
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:13 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Mike I’ll gladly use one of the adoring females of your family next time…sex is the universal language
(I have no female relations. I am a computer)
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Easy jhill because they were non existant out there….first two plays were cool then what? If Alex Smith didnt suck so much it would have been 14-0
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
i knew we were in trouble when hue said “the tyvon branches” i said oh schyt our secondary is in deep schyt.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
163.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Pryor is a good pickup. If he can learn the QB position, this team will be scary unstoppable in the distant future (assuming key playas are kept)
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So far the threads i have read is that Coach Jackson drafted him to play QB…Let him sit and work behind JC. Learn the game, he has a high ceiling at QB…IMO
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Well mike u better weird science one u…..boom shackalaka boom shackalaka boom
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Jerome Boyd wwas a joke as well…..see him at Enterprise Car Rental very soon after he gets cut
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
antispy3 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Lotsa sour grapes on the Chefs blog. They all think Pryor won’t work (Rosenhouse doesn’t represent “slouches”) and they keep referring to hinm as a TE. Exclusively.
Also; digging on the Raiders lack of 2nd through 4th round picks in ‘12 but don’t refer to potential compensatory picks (Cryptkeeper Clayton of (B)ESPN conservatively predicts 3rd & 4th round compensatory picks for Oakland. Might be able to add a 5th. So there).
Now you know how badly KC wanted Pryor. Cassell has looked horrid this preseason. Jamaal Charles, on the other hand, looks just like last year’s edition.
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The two closest pro teams to him certainly had their eyes on grabbing him. This was one case where Davis swooped in lst, and grabbed him, while they were being their customary cheap as sh**. Certainly demoralizing for their teams and their fans.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Lets hope for a nice turn around against Nawlins.
CODE BLACK!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Imagine that, every position on this offense being a threat to score and multi-facet: Pryor (QB), Reece (FB), DMC (RB), DHB (WR), Ford (WR), Moore (WR), Ausberry (TE), Boss (TE)
Only if. We’ll see. The kid has a lot of talent. Question will be can he play the position as it should be played adding his ’special sauce’ to it.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Yeah jhill we can insert the beast at RG….im in full mode with ya on that….Carlisle sucks….savage pssy is what he is
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Terrapin, dont forget to ADD Taiwan Jones to the mix…He looked good today per vittorio
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
153.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Jhill u admitted on this blog basically you had no idea about the DT thing until Madden taught ya
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This is where I can tell that you are running outta ammo.
There were about 5 of you going back and forth on you UT, NT, NG, RDT, LDT, etc terminologies. I like to have some proof instead of just idle babble, so instead of taking your definitions, or Priests, or Dakota’s, or anyone else’s, it made sense to go to a REFERENCE.
Funny thing is YOU were not right, COW was, lol.
I thought both DTs SHOULD be lined up in the gap between the C and G and the DEs should line up in front of the OTs.
I was arguing with Priest that the Raiders line up one of our DTs directly over the C and used film to back it up.
I still think the way we line up with Seymour in between the C and OG, and Kelly directly over the other OG is flawed logic.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
blazekush
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Hard to say when Campbell starts. Cooper Carlisle is just so darn experienced it would be hard for a coach to bench him with Campbell still needing to learn better technique.
Based on what I saw, I’m alomst like what the hell, start these boyz! They basically owned the right side of that line w/ Wiz, Campbell and Barksdale. I want to see if they can do it vs starters.
Hue is smart. He kept testing that side of the line. I think most of the runs were right side or middle when they were in. Pass protection was pretty darn good too.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Mike the Moderator Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Tommy FAILY has started at LDE,NT,RDE and UT in his time in oakland…..whats the common themse here Jhill? …”put it together I rock hoes yall rock fellas”
(Next time you post, It would be appreciated if you use proper English)
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Pssy a$$ troll bullsh!t… get a fkn like mr
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Looking for BCAMPBELL to contiue his play, hopefully he gets sometime against NO’s 1’s…Contrary to popular blog mythology, he is not a bust…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
TO MIKE THE MODERATOR:
1) Everything I say is a lie.
2) I am lying right now.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Pass protection did look good. I don’t know why Boller kept scrambling.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Based on what I saw, I’m alomst like what the hell, start these boyz! They basically owned the right side of that line w/ Wiz, Campbell and Barksdale. I want to see if they can do it vs starters.
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Thats a tough call Bruh… Niners tried the experiment by starting 2 rooks last year…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Trust me, BC is noooo bust!! That guy will be a beast at RG. With better technique he may even been a good RT.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
165.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Easy jhill because they were non existant out there….first two plays were cool then what? If Alex Smith didnt suck so much it would have been 14-0
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I’m not sure I got your answer to how the DTs are at fault for Boyd getting toasted by Vernon Davis on 3rd down?
Or how Wimbley got called for a PI on Vernon Davis?
Or how Groves and Branch got sucked in on the play action completion to Morgan?
Or how running plays to the edge are supposed to be stopped by the DTs?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
But Campbell is not necessarily a rook. He just has little game experience. But I hear ya. Its tuff. These boyz are the future.
I mean they were literally dominant from C to RT
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Yeah, I was arguing with some guys on the blog last week about BCAMBELL being a bust. Sometimes I think we ALL throw these lables without any real understanding.
Will be good to see him against the NO 1’s.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
185.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
But Campbell is not necessarily a rook. He just has little game experience. But I hear ya. Its tuff. These boyz are the future.
I mean they were literally dominant from C to RT
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70’s RAIDERS are starting to take form…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Terrapin, dont forget to ADD Taiwan Jones to the mix
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Will make watching the end of these game better.
Enough of running Cartwright and Bennett.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
I want BC and Wiz on that line! These boyz play with an attitude! Even BC gets in extra licks!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
i love the pryor pick guys. this guy could be a freak. tall, great arm. hard worker. winner. and escapability like crazy. and if he doesn’t work out at qb, then he would be a nightmare to cover at wr. 6′6″ 235 and runs a 4.3? wow!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Terrelle pryor my MUP
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Will make watching the end of these game better.
Enough of running Cartwright and Bennett.
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Agreed Bruh…End of the games are very hard to watch however, we need to get our 2nd and 3rd stringers shored up. this year is going to be a doosey for injuries…Can’t afford to much drop off with the next guy up….
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
189.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
I want BC and Wiz on that line! These boyz play with an attitude! Even BC gets in extra licks!
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they play like the RAIDERS of old…No Doubt both have a MEAN streak…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I think Pryor is a good pickup not just for his talent; but quit frankly I don’t know how long Campbell will last. Campbell can’t take too many more hits if I were to speculate.
He certainly cannot take a hit from the blindside. I think he has issues with his neck. Thats the second (maybe 3rd) time he has gotten hit from behind and knocked out as a result.
Sadly, I don’t think his NFL career will last very long. All those years getting beat up in Washington
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Whats Bossman’s status? Schilens?
Lets see a Pryor wildcat package late in the season.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Wonder how much influence the coaching staff had with player personnel when selecting PRYOR?
Coach Jackson was really playing it off that we were not interested…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
So, Pryor and Teabow are basically the same player?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Hue says Pryor is a quarterback … For now
44 minutes ago
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Im looking fwd to watching this young team grow together.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Glad to hear Pryor will atleast get a shot at QB. The Kid has earned that much.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
So, Pryor and Teabow are basically the same player?
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Uhhhhh….No…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Im looking fwd to watching this young team grow together.
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Yes, we have the makings of something really good…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
So, Pryor and Teabow are basically the same player?
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Uhhhhh….No…
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What’s the diff, seriously?
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Look, if the Raiders sit back and allow themselves to get abused against the run…and then sit back with slick comments like discipline etc…then so be it.
I am so sick of the run defense problems that I my keyboard is “hoarse” from shouting about it.
If you can’t stop the run…you can’t win
I think if Henderson plays and McClain steps up…they should be able to stop the run
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 pm
What’s the diff, seriously?
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Pocket Prescence
TP is a better pocket passer
Footwork
TP has better footwork in the pocket, word is it has improved dramatically, on of the knocks.
Thowing mechanics
He needs some work here however, he is way ahead of tebow.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
As for Terrell Pryor….wasn’t for the selection but hope the kid is wildly successfull.
Just a note….can’t the Raiders try to and some singles and doubles in the draft etc…instead of always trying to hit home runs.
Another 5 year developmental guy…not a big fan of moving guys around from natural position…but that’s just me.
Sometimes drafting the kid that doesn’t necessarily have the fastest 40x for his position can work out too!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
If you can’t stop the run…you can’t win
I think if Henderson plays and McClain steps up…they should be able to stop the run
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I like Henderson however, he is allways “nicked” we should have drafted a NT this year…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
SNB, solid post 206, hopefully they let him sit and learn the QB position, to many times we get a guy and switch him to a position he did not play in college.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Thanks Thec, I don’t follow College Football. My understanding was they’re both big fast run first types.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
I think McClain is going to make a great coach someday.
You know what they say: “Those who can’t do, teach.”
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Thec07,
Why isn’t Tommie Hill getting more playing time?
I would really be interested in understanding the Raider philosophy to stopping the run. Because the look and feel is the same…1 cut runs…hitting the edge etc….
I don’t think 1 preseason game is worth panicking…but Henderson is not ready to go…that doesn’t bode well for the defense.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Thanks Thec, I don’t follow College Football. My understanding was they’re both big fast run first types.
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No worried Bruh…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
As for Terrell Pryor….wasn’t for the selection but hope the kid is wildly successfull.
Just a note….can’t the Raiders try to and some singles and doubles in the draft etc…instead of always trying to hit home runs.
Another 5 year developmental guy…not a big fan of moving guys around from natural position…but that’s just me.
Sometimes drafting the kid that doesn’t necessarily have the fastest 40x for his position can work out too!
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Agreed. It’s real effin old. The Old Creeper thinks that if he hits just one more home run he’ll prove the naysayers wrong. Which he wants even more than winning.
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
SnB, well said #204, look at our SB teams, meanest LB’’s in the league, we are fast, but I think too light, we bounce off of tackles, and they take it to the house!
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
J Hill Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
153.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Jhill u admitted on this blog basically you had no idea about the DT thing until Madden taught ya
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This is where I can tell that you are running outta ammo.
There were about 5 of you going back and forth on you UT, NT, NG, RDT, LDT, etc terminologies. I like to have some proof instead of just idle babble, so instead of taking your definitions, or Priests, or Dakota’s, or anyone else’s, it made sense to go to a REFERENCE.
Funny thing is YOU were not right, COW was, lol.
I thought both DTs SHOULD be lined up in the gap between the C and G and the DEs should line up in front of the OTs.
I was arguing with Priest that the Raiders line up one of our DTs directly over the C and used film to back it up.
I still think the way we line up with Seymour in between the C and OG, and Kelly directly over the other OG is flawed logic.
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LOL now I know you are failing patna…..I’ve argued with Priest many times about where the NT lines up. I’ve never been wrong about it and never will be. Who generally takes on the LG and C leaving the RDE with the one on one matchup? That’s the NT and many times they line up over center.
You talk about fukkin film? Go watch entirety of game again and you will see many times that this was going on.
My own father is an oline coach….go up and watch Bishop Montgomery….yeah in LA….go see them this fall. He would laugh at this BS
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Look, if the Raiders sit back and allow themselves to get abused against the run…and then sit back with slick comments like discipline etc…then so be it.
I am so sick of the run defense problems that I my keyboard is “hoarse” from shouting about it.
If you can’t stop the run…you can’t win
I think if Henderson plays and McClain steps up…they should be able to stop the run
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Translation sit down on this JHILL
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Thec,
Terrell Pryor is a Quarterback and should be afforded every effort.
He is NOT a 3rd round wide receiver/tight end…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
217.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Thec,
Terrell Pryor is a Quarterback and should be afforded every effort.
He is NOT a 3rd round wide receiver/tight end…
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Spot on as usual…
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Pryor Likely Stuck In Dead End With Raiders
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While discussing the strengths and weaknesses of quarterbacks Ryan Mallett(notes) and Terrelle Pryor over the weekend, one NFL general manager came to this conclusion: “Yeah, when you look at it overall, they’re pretty equal.”
That was proven correctly on Monday when Pryor was picked in the third round of the NFL’s supplemental draft. Pryor went to the Oakland Raiders with the 82nd overall pick, not far behind where Mallett went in April, when he was the 74th overall pick by the New England Patriots. Sadly for Pryor, his chances of long-term success aren’t close to Mallett’s now.
Pryor needs discipline after dashing from NCAA investigators to the NFL. He needs an organization that is just that – organized. Instead, Pryor has landed on a team where the self-absorbed get thrown into a big bucket with a brine of willfulness and a hint of ego glorification.
If you talk to a handful of people from Ohio State and NFL personnel who have done a modicum of homework on Pryor, they will tell you that Pryor’s biggest problem is he has never been told no. Former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel consistently let Pryor do whatever he wanted. In the end, it cost Pryor his final season in college (a season he could have used for development of his immense skills) and Tressel his job.
Now he goes to an organization that develops quarterbacks the way Nevin Shapiro and Bernie Madoff handle investments. Name the last quarterback the Raiders really nurtured?
Ken Stabler.
Since then, the Raiders have either succeeded with retreads like Jim Plunkett or Rich Gannon or flopped with guys like Marc Wilson, Todd Marinovich or, most recently, JaMarcus Russell(notes).
The situation with Russell is most instructive in this situation. Owner Al Davis picked Russell, seeing him as the second-coming of Plunkett from an athletic perspective. Davis then let Russell run wild over coaches Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable. Those coaches tried to discipline Russell from time to time, but Davis either waived the fines or didn’t do anything until it was way too late.
Now comes Pryor, who should have been a first-round pick. The fact that some thought he should have gone in the fifth or sixth round was an overreaction to his selfishness. There just aren’t that many human beings who can do what Pryor can do. When you have a chance to get them, you draft them.
But you better have a plan for them, too.
That’s what the Patriots will do with Mallett. On the first week of training camp, New England coach Bill Belichick was in the middle working with all the quarterbacks, even Mallett. That’s not because Belichick is getting ready to replace Tom Brady(notes) tomorrow. (People close to Belichick think Mallett will never play a meaningful down for the Patriots.)
“I know Bill took that kid just because he knows he can turn him into something more later on,” another general manager said. “All the concerns about that kid’s attitude … he won’t be there long enough for that to have an impact on the locker room. Bill will get him ready, put him on display in some exhibition games and then trade him away for a first-round pick or something like that.”
In the meantime, Mallett will hopefully benefit from just being around guys like Belichick and Brady. Perhaps something about their seriousness will rub off on him. Mallett needs it a lot more than people close to him are willing to admit. Aside from the sordid tales of him from college, the latest story about him was the all-night partying he did at the NFL Players Association rookie symposium in Sarasota, Fla., in July, according to two sources.
There’s nothing wrong with a 20-something doing a little partying. However, when that’s a black mark on your reputation and you’re now trying to make it in the NFL, you’d think one would change that a little. Now that Mallett is with the Patriots, he will either learn or get kicked to the curb.
With Pryor, he may never get that message. He may never be told that his routine is played out and that it’s time to work on his game instead of get by on talent. He will likely never look at fellow quarterback Jason Campbell(notes) and think he can learn anything from him. At Ohio State, he didn’t listen to older players, in large part because Tressel never told him he had to.
Oakland coach Hue Jackson will talk a good game about disciplining Pryor. Jackson will tell people “I’ll put my foot up his butt if I have to” (or at least some statement like that). The problem is that Jackson is just another Raiders coach, as disposable as Cable, Kiffin, Art Shell, Norv Turner, Jon Gruden and all the other guys Davis has run through there.
Whatever plan Jackson has is doubtful to last long and that means the only planning will be left to Davis, who is too old and too weary to carry it through himself. That’s why it’s more appropriate than ever that Davis takes another speed merchant (Pryor ran between a 4.36 and 4.42 40 on Sunday in his workout for NFL scouts).
The 82-year-old Davis is trying to beat the clock. There’s no time for plans.
That means there’s probably no shot for Pryor.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_raiders_terrelle_pryor_quarterback082211
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Imagine that, every position on this offense being a threat to score and multi-facet: Pryor (QB), Reece (FB), DMC (RB), DHB (WR), Ford (WR), Moore (WR), Ausberry (TE), Boss (TE)
Only if. We’ll see. The kid has a lot of talent. Question will be can he play the position as it should be played adding his ’special sauce’ to it.
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Um, shouldn’t that be the case in every team?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
211.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Thec07,
Why isn’t Tommie Hill getting more playing time?
I would really be interested in understanding the Raider philosophy to stopping the run. Because the look and feel is the same…1 cut runs…hitting the edge etc….
I don’t think 1 preseason game is worth panicking…but Henderson is not ready to go…that doesn’t bode well for the defense.
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I am not In panic mode however, giving up 239 yards even in preseason is disconcerting…
They looked a lot like last years team when it came to stopping the run…
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
J Hill Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
165.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Easy jhill because they were non existant out there….first two plays were cool then what? If Alex Smith didnt suck so much it would have been 14-0
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I’m not sure I got your answer to how the DTs are at fault for Boyd getting toasted by Vernon Davis on 3rd down?
Or how Wimbley got called for a PI on Vernon Davis?
Or how Groves and Branch got sucked in on the play action completion to Morgan?
Or how running plays to the edge are supposed to be stopped by the DTs?
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Jhill you still dont get it….do you? This is not singled out for this one fking game? This is about winning football games period! You have no vision for the future buddy…at all. Do you understand we play excellent RBs all year long?
You dont see we have the same problem then…..and the same excuses from the pro-current DT combo faction. I see the same action on plays from those two and its bigger than that one fkin play!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
So KK, is it your opinion that Pryor has no chance?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Kell, as usual, I have some snake oil for you, old coot!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
History makes me very skeptical of the Raiders developing him.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
KK, thanks for that post. I beleive Coach Jackson will have a positive impact on PRYOR, In fact I beleive that Pryor reconizes the mistakes he has made, and will overcome them…
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Fair enough.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Thec, I’m in, He reallywanted to play here, and there are no college girl distractions, plus he get’s paid, he’s into this!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
225.KoolKell Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
History makes me very skeptical of the Raiders developing him.
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That is a fair statement however, I beleive Mr. Davis did not take PRYOR without disscussing this with coaches and player personnel. I am curiopus to know what Coach Jackson real thoughts are.
I believe that coach Jackson can coach him up and develop him into an NFL QB…
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
kk,can always count on you for a sfbs negative post,I think HE will succeed in OAKLAND,now TRY and see thru youre HATRED,STOP listening to OTHERS and let the young man PLAY with support from the Raiders and yourself!Hope its possible for ya
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
History makes me very skeptical of the Raiders developing him.
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Why don’t you email that back 5 hours ago? We’ve already been over that. 5 hours ago. You got any other points, or are you just going to keep repeating yourself ad nauseum?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
49Winers just banned tailgating during games! Classic!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
San Francisco is run by the ruling elite. They love imposing restrictions on the mundanes.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Ryan Mallett is the tallest Q in the last draft, with a rocket arm. He was a big time performer, very inconsistent. Not at all mobile. Lots of character issues. He is a good fit in New England where maybe Brady can show him the ropes. But if the issue is very young NFL Q’s running around partying, this is news?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Mum, why don’t they just fry the idiots, well done, and be done with it. Great deterant!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
The only thing I am skeptical on is our Dline alignment.
That said what the RAIDER org, coaching staff, and player personel have done a great job in identifying some really good young talent…
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:13 pm
I forget to mention the “other forces”.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
It’s not Hue, I’m worried about:
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Oakland coach Hue Jackson will talk a good game about disciplining Pryor. Jackson will tell people “I’ll put my foot up his butt if I have to” (or at least some statement like that). The problem is that Jackson is just another Raiders coach, as disposable as Cable, Kiffin, Art Shell, Norv Turner, Jon Gruden and all the other guys Davis has run through there.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Whatever plan Jackson has is doubtful to last long and that means the only planning will be left to Davis, who is too old and too weary to carry it through himself. That’s why it’s more appropriate than ever that Davis takes another speed merchant (Pryor ran between a 4.36 and 4.42 40 on Sunday in his workout for NFL scouts).
The 82-year-old Davis is trying to beat the clock. There’s no time for plans.
That means there’s probably no shot for Pryor.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
There on some guys on here who will find negative in everything we’ve done. They probably lose sleep when we win and when we’re doing well or expect to do well. They live in a vacum filled with hate, and the sad part is that they don’t see it. They ramble off their garbage and hope some of it comes thru.
Hey, guys, Raider fans, the skys are blue and the wind…the wind is an “Autumn-Wind” and we’re going to be just fine. Pryor will be one of our best pickups and we got him for four years @ 3 million total. Not bad, not bad at all.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
It is important to understand that the Raiders 1st team defense was NOT getting run on.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
238.KoolKell Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
It’s not Hue, I’m worried about:
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Oakland coach Hue Jackson will talk a good game about disciplining Pryor. Jackson will tell people “I’ll put my foot up his butt if I have to” (or at least some statement like that). The problem is that Jackson is just another Raiders coach, as disposable as Cable, Kiffin, Art Shell, Norv Turner, Jon Gruden and all the other guys Davis has run through there.
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Those are fair assumptions in my opinion. I do believe that Mr. Davis does allow his coaches to coach, and that he is not active in what is going on. As a manager he does however require status on what the team is doing. I believe that Mr. Davis will allow coach Jackson to do exactly what he needs to do to build a winner…
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
The first team defense was getting run on.
What game were you watching?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
It’s nice that our two best offensive players are back.
That will help us against NO this weekend.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Jhill you my boy but you just wrong on this….DE you had me cooked with Shaughnessy no doubt
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Out, night all, Raider On!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
So the powers that be want to eliminate the Raiders 49ers pre-season series.
How ’bout the ‘bolts? Security!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
One thing about Pryor that impresses me is that he performs well in the big games.
Al watched the highlight reels and envisions him doing the same in the NFL. In the end it is up to Pryor, if he wants it, he can do it.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Wonder what Jason Campbell thinks about the drafting of Pryor. How does this affect his long term future in Silver in Black.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Kirk Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
The first team defense was getting run on.
What game were you watching?
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It was the same bullschit…aw the play wasnt to his side and gap discipline the LBs and all that crap. Its obvious Seymour and Kelly as starters is a joke…its starts with those two first
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Raidertay Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Wonder what Jason Campbell thinks about the drafting of Pryor. How does this affect his long term future in Silver in Black.
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Man this concussed fool better worry bout this week and play ball
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Kirk Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
It’s nice that our two best offensive players are back.
That will help us against NO this weekend.
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Yeah now get the best 5 OL guys and we may have something
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
248,Twocents,He will come thru,imo!RAIDERS!!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I can live with Satele at C but cant have Wiz2 on bench when LG sucks…better pray we get Bruce a try now. They really wanted him there so let’s see it. My Tackles I aint worried about
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:33 pm
I doubt very much that Mr. Davis would really take note of HueJac or anybody else would say about getting Pryor. He’s is set on trying to get a qb that is able to run from pressure.
Pryor did set a record for QSU qbs for throwing 16 straight completions, although it was last year against Ohio, in a rout.
If anybody can help him develop as a decent nfl passer is probably Al Saunders, if that happens Pryor could be around for awhile.
And hopefully, he learns to make better decisions with the ball than our previous qbs after Gannon. I am just dreaming of getting somewhere better than what the Raiders have in Campbell, Boller, and Edwards, nothing.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
The point that the Raiders haven’t developed a Q in 40 years is a good point. Jon Gruden never developed a Q. Hue Jackson has. It’s worth the gamble to let Hue try.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Antispy3 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
So the powers that be want to eliminate the Raiders 49ers pre-season series.
How ’bout the ‘bolts? Security!
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LOL
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
The point that the Raiders haven’t developed a Q in 40 years is a good point. Jon Gruden never developed a Q. Hue Jackson has. It’s worth the gamble to let Hue try.
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Man I’m worried about the 2011 season. Pryor wont play QB this season or even next maybe
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
1st team defense only gave up 3 points, once again had a goal line stance [that is two weeks in a row], we got two int’s albiet one because of a botched hold.
1st team defense will be solid;
Mr. Seymour & Mr. Kelley on the inside with Mr, Henderson & Mr. Bryant as baxkups makes the Raiders the deepest team in the DT position and arguably the best.
At DE, Raiders are even better with Mr. Shaughnessy & Mr. Houston, though not as deep, unless we consider Mr. Wimbley & Mr. Scott their backups [even though one if not both are starting LBs].
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Just crazy…anyways B@uce man is on the come down so I’ll say goodnite….now I hope we licking our wounds and getting together a good gameplan for NO…..49er game is over with now
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
1st team defense only gave up 3 points, once again had a goal line stance [that is two weeks in a row], we got two int’s albiet one because of a botched hold.
1st team defense will be solid;
Mr. Seymour & Mr. Kelley on the inside with Mr, Henderson & Mr. Bryant as baxkups makes the Raiders the deepest team in the DT position and arguably the best.
At DE, Raiders are even better with Mr. Shaughnessy & Mr. Houston, though not as deep, unless we consider Mr. Wimbley & Mr. Scott their backups [even though one if not both are starting LBs].
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What do we do if Houston or Matt get hurt? Moss and Scott? Oh boy…Desmond?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Outro
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Watching Pryor run, he reminds me of Randy Moss.
Except that he is bigger and stronger.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
The 49ers kept the ball for almost the entire 1st qtr.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
And Pryor makes people miss.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
wassup B? got into a lot of arguments these last 2 days with some jackazzez about saturday. they all wanna blame oakland for that bullsh!t. damn near got into a fight cuz some jcat said hunters point aint frisco. he said its oakland and i went off on his azz. i really cant stand the bay anymore. u got these punk muhfuggas in the media and thru out the bay lookin down on us man. anybody who knows anything sees what kinds of whiner fans be at the games. u got all them gang bangin and wannabe thugs bangin that red talkin major sh!t. cant stand them chumps.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
238.KoolKell Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
It’s not Hue, I’m worried about:
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Oakland coach Hue Jackson will talk a good game about disciplining Pryor. Jackson will tell people “I’ll put my foot up his butt if I have to” (or at least some statement like that). The problem is that Jackson is just another Raiders coach, as disposable as Cable, Kiffin, Art Shell, Norv Turner, Jon Gruden and all the other guys Davis has run through there.
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Those are fair assumptions in my opinion. I do believe that Mr. Davis does allow his coaches to coach, and that he is not active in what is going on. As a manager he does however require status on what the team is doing. I believe that Mr. Davis will allow coach Jackson to do exactly what he needs to do to build a winner…
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Good God, where’ve you been the past 30 years? Everyone knows Davis meddles. Are you still wet behind the ears, kid?
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Nice post, KK. It’s a refutation of all the gullible Davis acolytes on here who blame the players and coaches for 20 years of futility. The point of the piece, which has been proven time and again, is Davis creates a culture that undermines the growth of talent rather than develop it in a strategic way. The entire organization takes on the eccentric idiosyncrasies of the Old Creeper. Jackson is just a front.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Pryor on MNF interview talking alot about his willingness to do whatever “Mr. Davis and Coach Jackson want me to do”.
He’d just gotten off the phone with Al Davis.
Gruden just said “you know Terrelle I spent four years in Oakland, but don’t tell Mr. Davis you talked to me…oh, we’re on tv, ok, but Terrelle i just wanna say i’m so happy for ya and i wish you the best of luck”.
Funny exchange.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
B&uce is spot on with his focus.
No more excuses about this that and the other. Its to the point where its put up or shut up when it comes to run defense. This has been going on too long and it is distressing that last weeks game looked a lot like previous years.
The DEs need to hold the edge, the doggone DTs can’t let Guards and FullBacks go unimpeded to the LBs…and the Lbs have to run clean, read and diagnose and make the doggone tackle.
No excuses on this. They don’t have to be a top 10 run defense but mann…bottom of the league every year…something wrong with that
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Because of the image Raider fans have, Niner fans have carte blanche to start trouble. They’ll never get blamed. They’re the prom queen of sports fans. They can start a huge fight, nobody will ever blame them. The other side of the same coin is, all of that chest thumping that Raider fans like to do, bragging on being tough, fans like Brien telling people to come to the game and face physical violence, perpetuates the stereotype as well. Make no mistake. People like Brien are to blame for not only the madness at the game Saturday, but the ensuing, biased reporting as well.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
We can only hope the players and coaches are as fired up and angry about the physicality and run defense as B&uce is right now.
He has always been right on the need for a run stuffing, lane clogging NT next to Seymour.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Yes, the team needs to be fired up and angry. They also need to be skilled NFL football players. Question is, are they?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I mean, if it’s all about being fired up and angry, why not just suit up 11 fans? Surely there’s something more to this game than intensity.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Remember when Hue Jack was asked about the Raiders interest in Pryor? H
baby Huey said “I’m thinking about beating the sf team” and “all I know about Pryor is he is a QB”
Looks like he was lying about both!
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
So has the Templet been made on how to beat the Raiders? Punch them in the mouth over and over, and they will kill their selves?
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
“Trade-or-release talk surfaces for Tebow”.
See, things could be worse. $6.7M guaranteed, a 1st round pick, can’t really throw NFL caliber ball, no accuracy, etc.
Like someone said on PFT: “That’s a lot to pay for a Chaplin”.
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
This whole Pryor thing has brought more attention to the Raiders than anything they’ve done since the Cable ouster.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
I can bring attention to myself by dropping my pants in the middle of a busy street. Doesn’t mean it’ll gain me respect, let alone success.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Sullivan44,
We can splice words..but this Raider team is very, very, very, very well paid.
Seymour is the highest paid defensive player in the league
TK signed an epic contract a few years ago
Wimbley is making top LB money
McClain is a top 10 pick
Shaughnessy and Houston are both big upgrades over Swilling, Ellis, and all the other tweeners we’ve had at DE.
Time to step up and start playing real deal, no excuses run defense….
Oh, and Huff and Routt are making a nice sum too
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Like someone said on PFT: “That’s a lot to pay for a Chaplin”.
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That’s funny
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
When you say ‘upgrades’ are you going by statistics, or your crystal ball?
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
If there is a hole in our D-line it’s through Kelly’s lane. He’s trying so hard to get to the QB that he plays himself out of position. How do we change that? Change Kelly for Bryant? let Kelly backfill for Seymour when he gets tired. JHenderson can then backfill for Bryant. Opinions?
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
275.Mum-O-killowe Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
So has the Templet been made on how to beat the Raiders? Punch them in the mouth over and over, and they will kill their selves?
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Ala Marty Schottenheimer? Yes. Hue has promised it ain’t like that anymore.
He stood up before the “Raider Nation” and said “We’re back!” I was pumped when I heard that cuz I wanna believe Hue is the man to help make it happen and that he says this from a knowingness and not just bluster and trying to make us feel good.
Win games. Dominate. Be a bully. THAT will make me feel good about this.
Sat. night showed NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that this team will anything but a horrible team this year.
It’s just preseason..i know that, but i’d really like to see something with my own eyes that suggests this team is any good.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
VittorioTafur
Jackson on Pryor: “This young man is a quarterback. That’s where we’re going to start and we’ll go from there.” #Raiders
36 minutes ago
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Sullivan44,
Not sure if your trolling or not. The Run Defense here has been completely unacceptable.
If you can’t see that…then there is nothing I can say to convince you
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:10 pm
When it comes to the draft, Mike Holgrem himself said every GM/Head Coach decieve the press, the fans, and especially the other GMs.
Same goes for the supplemental draft.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
282.JB Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
If there is a hole in our D-line it’s through Kelly’s lane. He’s trying so hard to get to the QB that he plays himself out of position. How do we change that? Change Kelly for Bryant? let Kelly backfill for Seymour when he gets tired. JHenderson can then backfill for Bryant. Opinions?
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In the 3-4 with this D, TK is supposed to be a key guy in stopping the run. He had 7 sacks last year, but his main concern should be to contain IF there is a run play, and brush off and pressure when there is not. This might lend itself to play action to work against him and buy more time, in essence “fooling” Kelly into committing to the run and taking away his pas rushing ability. IMO.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
might
maybe
should
if
could
lol. sounds like we’re pretty confident in our team this year.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
When Gruden was here, it was:
will
we will
we will
when
will
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RR…286: Good point. We pretended to show no interest, at least verbally, but we were up there to see the work out and that finalized it for Al. And, we can critize Al in some areas, but we have to give him credit when he wants something he’ll go get it. He was willing to pay with a number 3 pick and bingo, we got Pryor. Absolutely fabulous. What he did at Ohio wasn’t easy and I assume (not sure) that no one has put those numbers up in 3 years. If any of those abilities transfer over to the speed of the NFL…WOW.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Terrelle Pryor told ESPN’s “Monday Night Football” announce team that he’d appeal the five-game suspension if the Raiders decide that’s the best course of action to take.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Jackson just said..
Raiders picked Pryor to be qb… Campbell free agent at end of season
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
I like the fact that the Raiders are taking the lead on the appeal.
At the very least it should get it down to 2-3 games
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm
It might take Mr. Pryor a couple of years to be ready to be the #1 guy.
Mr. Jason Campbell will produce this season and earn another contract.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
So far I like this guys attitude. ..he’s itching to get started. . Very different than jablubber
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Let Pryor sit the 5 games – he’s not going to be playing anyway and that way we keep another player on the roster for a longer look. I believe he’ll still be able to practice and that’s more important right now. If he is destined for the QB position sometime in the distant future he should just start throwing now and not stop until he gets it right. PRACTICE, Practice, practice. Learn the offense and do your studying. Work hard. Listen and don’t speak.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Two biggest weaknesses I see are WLB (and overall LB depth) & either CB or TE depending on severity of injuries to Mr. Johnson or Mr. Boss.
the Raiders pull the trigger on signing Tatupu & Mr. Morrison.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:29 pm
No problem with work ethic… character was the issue. . Not his work out mentality. .. the Guy is ripped. .obviously
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I do not think Campbell is a good QB, but he may be a good option to keep while Pryor learns. Unless a Above avarage QB drops in our lap. It could be worse. We could have garbagkakski.
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
yo sillyvan44,Im confident in this teams future,you?Got my season tickets last Fri,You?Raiders!!!
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I look forward to Ford, Boss, DMac, Bush, Moore, Pryor, etc…
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Good God, where’ve you been the past 30 years? Everyone knows Davis meddles. Are you still wet behind the ears, kid?
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Nice post, KK. It’s a refutation of all the gullible Davis acolytes on here who blame the players and coaches for 20 years of futility. The point of the piece, which has been proven time and again, is Davis creates a culture that undermines the growth of talent rather than develop it in a strategic way. The entire organization takes on the eccentric idiosyncrasies of the Old Creeper. Jackson is just a front.
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OhioRaider,
1. First of all KK pulled the post from the article written by jason cole of yahoo sports.
2. I do not consider myself a Davis Acoylyte. You can go back and look at my post. I have bashed Mr. Davis for some of the business decisions that have been made regarding the org so you are definetly wrong here.
3. If you want to know where I have been the last 30 years thats a long story however, I am of the age and stature not to be called a “kid” by you or anyone else on the blog. A kid is a young goat, dont think I qualify for that. Grew up watching the RAIDERS from 1970 onward and to this day I am still a RAIDER…
4. I am of the belief that Mr. Davis is not intervening with the coaching staff, do i have ant intel to support or refute i would say no however, i do see a cultral shift, and it is positive.
If you want to be negative its up to you. If you are ever in SD let me know we can go somewhere and have a drink, and talk NATION….
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Coach Jackson has big plans for Taiwan Jones…
August 22nd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
I don’t like the thought of drafting Pryor BECUZ JC is gonna be a FA next year. If JC is not the type of guy u think of as the long term solution than why the heck is he starting in the first place? Media is spinning it like that.
I want a Raider QB who is in the long term plans, not a guy you start even tho you already know he won’t be here next year cuz he’s not good enough. What. Is this just a blowoff year to waste until we get a QB we can really win with?
August 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
If Soup is concern about a long-term relationship with the Raiders and holding onto the starting QB position, all he needs to do is win. Winning solves most of all the concerns.
August 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
# Smells like beeechum Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Code Black?The owners and the league talking about making us change our colors and not allowing the black and silver to be sold or allowed into stadiums after this weekend.Says it promotes GANGS and violence!!Because of what happened this weekend Could become reality!!!!!!! CODE PINK??????
August 23rd, 2011 at 10:07 am
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Jerome Boyd wwas a joke as well as Pryor will be…..see him at Enterprise Car Rental very soon after he gets cut
August 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
# Mum-O-killowe Says:
August 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Remember when Hue Jack was asked about the Raiders interest in Pryor? H
baby Huey said “I’m thinking about beating the sf team” and “all I know about Pryor is he is a QB”
Looks like he was lying about both!
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August 23rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
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