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Pryor is a Raider

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 22nd, 2011 at 10:39 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders selected Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the third round of the NFL supplemental draft Monday, rolling the dice on a major talent whose NCAA violations helped lead to the dismissal of coach Jim Tressel and put the school on probation.

The selection of Pryor means the Raiders will lose their third-round pick in the 2012 draft.

Pryor decided to forgo his senior year at Ohio State after Tressel’s resignation. Pryor was suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season by the NCAA for receiving cash for tattoos from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner.

The NFL ruled Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft, but essentially upheld the NCAA suspension. Pryor will not be placed on the Raiders’ 53-man roster until Week 6.

The Raiders were one of a reported 17 teams at a Pro Day workout for Pryor Saturday, and clocked him at 4.41 for the 40-yard dash _ essentially makes him the NFL’s fastest quarterback with the possible exception of Michael Vick.

The question is whether the Raiders see Pryor as a quarterback or as a receiver. At 6-foot-6 and 240 pounds, Pryor could present matchup problems as a slot receiver or could be a tight end prospect along the lines of Antonio Gates, who is more receiver than blocker.

One of the most decorated athletes in high school out of Jeanette High in southwestern Pennsylvania, Pryor was a basketball star who originally committed to Pittsburgh.

The object of an intense recruiting battle, Pryor’s decision to sign with Ohio State over Penn State was national news.

Considered more of a developmental project as a quarterback, Pryor was 31-4 as a starter at Ohio State including MVP awards in the Rose Bowl in as a junior and Sugar Bowl as a senior.

As a junior, Pryor passed for 2,772 yards, 27 touchdowns and had 11 interceptions. He rushed for 754 and yards and four scores.

Having written in a column two months ago taking Pryor was a no-brainer (although the third round is higher than I expected), I’m obviously on board with this call.

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381 Responses to “Pryor is a Raider”

  1. Pretty Rick Says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen,,, Terrell Pryor.

  2. bjbrown1968 Says:

    Sounds good to me. I’ll take it. As long as we don’t have to pay him much. Good investment.

  3. Thec07 Says:

    wow a 3rd…Wow…

  4. M Lonetree Says:

    JaMierda
    JaSoup
    JaPryor

    the legacy continues

  5. RaiderDuck Says:

    Well, we have our developmental QB now.

  6. YoungAmerican Says:

    No 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick in 2012.

  7. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    We just drafted our franchise QB, and you jokers are talking about the fullback position.

  8. M Lonetree Says:

    as Bob Marley pointed out some days ago, the Raiders are likely to get a couple of supplemental picks at the end of the 3rd round next year as a result of losing two pro bowlers to free agency.

  9. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
    No 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick in 2012.
    ——-
    Raiders will get extra picks for losing Nnamdi and Miller.

  10. bcz24 Says:

    Which QB gets cut… boller or edwards? you know Al isnt going to move him to TE when he can have the distinction of having the fastest QB in the NFL

  11. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:41 am
    JaMierda
    JaSoup
    JaPryor

    the legacy continues
    ———–
    RACIST

  12. YoungAmerican Says:

    Pryor can’t practice until Week 6.

  13. 901Raiders Says:

    If were gonna keep taking risks, this wasn’t that bad. Campbell is on the last year of his contract. Hopefully this will push him to get his stock value up. Not a bad move.

  14. Davy Jones Says:

    There WILL be compensatory picks at the end of the third round for the loss of FAs Nnamdi, Miller, and Gallery. Clearly played a role in their giving up the pick for Pryor.

  15. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Yes !!!

  16. DeuceDeuce Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
    No 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick in 2012.

    Comp picks for Nnamdi, Zach & Gallery coming..

  17. inonewordraider Says:

    with Gaither tire kick Moss offer Chad Ocho inquiry and Prior selection, maybe Al isn’t so averse to signing guys with character issues

  18. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    wow

  19. Kirk Says:

    SWEET!!!

  20. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    via twitter:

    AlDavis Fake Al Davis
    You thought I was gone. YOU THOUGHT WRONG.
    1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

  21. hwnrdr Says:

    I hope Pryor works out…if we keep him as QB, who goes? Boller or Edwards? If we put him in as WR or TE…too much to name here, but who goes there?

  22. Pretty Rick Says:

    Terrell Pryor in the 3rd rnd of the supplemental draft is 10x better than JaMarcus Russell in the 1st rnd of the draft,,, or any rnd for that matter.

  23. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I like this selection;

    Raiders can evaluate Edwards & Boller for 5 weeks; trade one for a 6th or 7th as other teams lose their QBs due to injury.

  24. DKnight007 Says:

    9.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
    YoungAmerican Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
    No 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick in 2012.
    ——-
    Raiders will get extra picks for losing Nnamdi and Miller.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Hope the Raiders get at least a 2nd or 3rd for losing Nnamdi and a 4th for losing Miller.

    Depending on where and when the Raiders draft in Round 1, then can always trade down and get more picks.

    We shall see where they can think Pryor can play. It has to be as a QB or a big WR, that they have needed for quite sometime.

    Running a 4.41 40 being 6-6 and 240 is impressive. I wonder if he can catch though?

  25. omniscience Says:

    Ya we will get those extra picks also remember we drafted Tui 2nd rd and i think Walter was a high pick and you get a QB with potential like Pryor in the 3rd hell he is a football player thats what we have been drafting latley Players we have 6th & 7th rounders making the squad

  26. inonewordraider Says:

    Guy would make a nice WR

  27. Kirk Says:

    Quarterback or wide receiver, either way it’s a winner.

  28. DeuceDeuce Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:47 am
    I hope Pryor works out…if we keep him as QB, who goes? Boller or Edwards? If we put him in as WR or TE…too much to name here, but who goes there?

    Dont have to make that decision til week 6..by that time someone will be on IR..

  29. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I think all 3 Raider QBs are on 1 year contracts.

  30. Raider Ray Says:

    Terrele Pryor, hope he’s smarter than other athletic QBs.

  31. omniscience Says:

    You all know all the stations will be hating. Raiders took him to high don`t sweat it Nation its all good…..

  32. bjbrown1968 Says:

    Pryor will not be a QB. He’ll be a WR or a TE. Raiders will get compensatory picks as well as probably trade for a 2nd round pick.

  33. Raider Ray Says:

    AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
    For ther 2nd, 3rd and 4th-rd pick in 2012, Raiders now have QB Jason Campbell, QB Terrelle Pryor, RB Taiwan Jones and OL Joseph Barksdale.
    ——
    TRUE

  34. BigTed707 Says:

    Steve – When the Raiders draft a guy – please post the guys College Stats. Thanks!

  35. RaiderDuck Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
    No 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick in 2012.

    ===========================================

    Yes, and in place of those picks we have starting QB, a developmental QB, a RT who will probably be starting by season’s end, AND an RB who can spell (and maybe eventually replace) DMAC.

    I’d rather have all that than a few draft picks. No contest.

  36. RaiderRetribution Says:

    with Pryor as a QB getting 3rd round money, Raiders will not have to worry about a contract battle with Mr. Jason Campbell.

  37. Raider Ray Says:

    You don’t draft a QB in the third to play WR. He will play QB.

  38. omniscience Says:

    I dont think Raiders would draft him in 3rd round to play WR we snatch those up in the later rounds.

  39. MikieG Says:

    I wish I was joking as I type this but: Pryor should be a WR because by the 5th game of the year Glass Shillens is going to be out for the season, and we will need Pryor to take his place…Mark it down. (We’ll be lucky if Glass even makes it to the 5th game)
    Good infusion of talent on offense. Nice Pick.

  40. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders will dominate Denver, there is already talk that they might cut Tebow; Raiders should pick him up and play him at LB.

  41. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Ya I think he gets a shot at QB…

  42. Raider Ray Says:

    timkawakami Tim Kawakami
    by Jerrymcd
    Breaking news from a high-ranking NFL source: The 49ers and Raiders will discontinue their exhibition season annual game.
    ————–
    I think this is a good thing.

  43. BigTed707 Says:

    Who gets dropped to keep the new QB?

    Boller?

    Put Ausberry on the practice squad, imo.

  44. hwnrdr Says:

    Tim Kawakami just tweeted that the Battle of the Bay will be discontinued…re-tweeted by Jerry Mac

  45. Raider Ray Says:

    No reason we can’t keep 4 QBs.

  46. Mj57 Says:

    It is a good move and really a steal, Pryor would have gone high in this coming draft. He can just ride the bench and develop for the next couple of years with no pressure of being a first round pick. Plus, we will get some comp picks so we really didn’t lose anything.

  47. hwnrdr Says:

    Dam, Raider Ray just beat me too it…

  48. RaiderDuck Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
    Who gets dropped to keep the new QB?

    Boller?

    ================================

    Nobody right now. Due to Pryor’s suspension, he won’t even count on the roster until after Week 5.

  49. Raider Ray Says:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=14353013

    This is what happens when you get too many Mexicans in the same building.

  50. BigTed707 Says:

    #

    # RaiderDuck Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:56 am

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
    Who gets dropped to keep the new QB?

    Boller?

    ================================

    Nobody right now. Due to Pryor’s suspension, he won’t even count on the roster until after Week 5.

    ****************
    Nice, can he practice?

  51. Kirk Says:

    I think this guy can play QB. Look at the highlights…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulYKdokw48

  52. Haters going to hate Says:

    I’m sure this is the last team the NFL wanted Pryor to go to.

    I would have loved the move in the 4th round, but in the 3rd I’m okay with it.

  53. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The guy is a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE….WLB is a joke for that guy. Yeah he isnt Alston or Ricky Brown…He is Quentin Groves…a guy who you know cant play 4-3 WLB

    ***

    ROG,

    Q Groves will be fine at WLB

    Quit blaming one guy for the Run Defense man. By doing this, you’re basically saying that the other 10 guys are doing thier jobs – which is NOT happening!

  54. bjbrown1968 Says:

    What round was Ronald Curry drafted in? He was a QB who was converted to WR. Pryor is an “athlete” pick. Dude is an average QB, but a great athlete (6-6, 240). He can be a matchup nightmare, similar to Gates. I just don’t ever see him under center for the Raiders.

  55. omniscience Says:

    we will get into 2nd rd of draft next year. think about anyways with all these young bucks making the squad how many more players can we really add without cutting other players

  56. DKnight007 Says:

    42.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
    timkawakami Tim Kawakami
    by Jerrymcd
    Breaking news from a high-ranking NFL source: The 49ers and Raiders will discontinue their exhibition season annual game.
    ————–
    I think this is a good thing.

    ^^^^^^^
    It is a good thing.

    That’s what happens when you get too many Mexican gang bangers in one building.

    There Niner vs Niner fights and Raider vs Raider fights all over that crappy dump of a stadium at Candlestick! Ugh

  57. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LOL! a 3rd round pick?

  58. inonewordraider Says:

    We finally have the talent to compete with anyone. If we can’t stop the run and can’t cover Te’s/rbs out of the backfield don’t you blame the coaching?

  59. M Lonetree Says:

    being a 3rd round pick Pryor will actually be taking a pay cut from his Buckeye days.

  60. bjbrown1968 Says:

    @MLonetree LOL

  61. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Pryor will not be placed on the Raiders’ 53-man roster until Week 6.

    ***

    Gives us plenty of time to decide who is better between Boller/Edwards – unless one of the 3 QB’s get seriously injured before then

  62. omniscience Says:

    Heard no more Battle of the Bay I think thats cool it seems those whiners play it like a regular season game every year leaveing starers in longer then usual also seems like a bad omen for us someone always goes down that game..

  63. RaiderDuck Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Nice, can he practice?

    ===========================================
    Right now, he can do anything any other player can. Once the season starts, he cannot practice or play until Week 6, BUT he can still exercise at the team facilities, attend all meetings, and work individually with the coaches. He just can’t participate in the official practices or suit up.

  64. Plunketthead Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Super… another QB who can’t play at a pro level. Im exstatic.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That sums up my feelings also

  65. RaiderRetribution Says:

    #59 that was funny as hell, true …fofl

  66. La Milicia Negra Says:

    9′ers and raiders will never again meet eachother in pre-season =)

  67. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    440.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
    ROG,

    gimme a nose tackle or pipe down when I make suggestions man

    it’s that simple.

    you can’t criticize without giving me a better alternative – you’d sound like a woman on the rag
    *******************

    WE HAVE A FKIN NT dammit! Hendu…how amny times do i gotta yell it!

  68. Sullivan44 Says:

    You can clearly see that Al’s letting Hue Jackson run the team. I mean, drafting Terrelle Pryor. Right up Hue’s alley.

  69. irishraiderfan Says:

    More talent the better, hope it works out for us

  70. crister Says:

    So what’s the situation for the compensation picks for Oakland? Nnamdi should be a 3rd rounder, but what about for the loss of Miller? Any chance we may pick another one up for him too?

  71. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders did lose another player to the Patriots, Mr. Ricky Brown LB signed with them last night, if any one cares.

  72. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Pryor to raiders for 3 rd rounder

    443.YoungAmerican Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Tonga played plenty against 2nd and 3rd stringers. Didn’t do a whole lot for the running game.

    ******************

    We passed alot and when running it had rock cartwright lol….. be serious

  73. Sullivan44 Says:

    Guess the Niners are too cheap and inefficient to provide security for their own events. Just outright cancelling the venue is an option, too. Pretty lazy, if you ask me. But that’s today’s business world. Goodbye Battle of the Bay, an NFL institution. All because one team’s ownership just isn’t responsible enough to secure their stadiums.

  74. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I think I read that he is going to ry to appeal the suspension after all. I am hoping he at least practice.
    He has a good arm but looks pretty raw. He does have a quick, wrist flick and good pocket awareness.

  75. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders will definately get the top compensatory pick in the 3rd round for losing Mr. Asomugha;

    I expect Raiders will get at least a 4th & a 5th for Mr. Z. Miller & Mr. R. Gallery.

  76. hwnrdr Says:

    Any word on whether Pryor was happy coming here? But then again…for his sake…who cares? he should be happy getting into the NFL when he knew it almost didn’t come to fruition for him and almost had to sit out the year!

  77. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Pryor for our posession WR lol

  78. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    By taking Pryor with a 3rd., just proves that Uncle Al never afraid to roll the dice….

    Just read Hue’s presser transcript from lastnight. I am becoming more convinced every day, that HueJack must have moonlighted as a Yugo salesman while in college…..

  79. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    73.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Guess the Niners are too cheap and inefficient to provide security for their own events. Just outright cancelling the venue is an option, too. Pretty lazy, if you ask me. But that’s today’s business world. Goodbye Battle of the Bay, an NFL institution. All because one team’s ownership just isn’t responsible enough to secure their stadiums.

    ****************

    We too cheap to get good players it seems

  80. La Milicia Negra Says:

    so let me get this right, in the 2012 we have 1st, 5th, 6th and a 7th round picks?

    man 2012 is going to be a boring draft..

  81. Buckeyeraider Says:

    ‘Sup fellas.

    I think this was a good pick. Low risk, potentially very high reward.

    The word here in SW Ohio was that the BungHoles, although they’d just drafted Andy Dalton in the 2nd..were seriously interested in grabbing Pryor. The Bengals new offensive Coordinator is Jay Gruden, Jon’s brother. Apparently Jon was really impressed with Pryor and highly recomended him.

    The Dayton Daily News also reported that the Cleveland Browns were the frontrunners to draft T Pryor(with Oakland also mentioned as another candidate).

    So, apparently Jon Gruden and Mike Holmgren liked this kid. Maybel ‘ol man AD beat em to the punch.

    This kid isn’t going to be rushed into the mix. He’ll be afforded the opportunity to sit and learn. This is JC’s team this year. Although I could see the Raiders putting in a few special packages a game for him. Sort of like Denver is rumored to be doing with Teblow.

    BTW, somebody said he can’t start practicing until week 6. I don’t believe this is the case. He can begin practicing immediately, but is suspended for the first five games.

  82. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Not worried about next year’s draft. More worrried about facing river’s. He must be very happy namdi is gone.

  83. Seymour Bush Says:

    Good choice by Davis grabbing Pryor in the 3rd of the supplemental. The old guy still has it.

  84. RaiderRetribution Says:

    No Mas Pryor said he will not appeal 5 game suspension.

    This late in camp & preseason, he was not going to get much playing time anyway; now he can simply focus on the playbook; train to get into football shape; then Al can prove to the rest of the NFL that he is still the Maverick of the NFL.

  85. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I say Pryor play at OSU. Didn’t know he had 4.41 speed until his pro day though he seemed to glide past defenders. At pro day last week, was ripiied physically. The opposite of JaLoser. I am coming to like the pick. 3rd round salary slot.

  86. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders can always move back in the first round to acquire more picks; probably won’t happen though.

  87. Sullivan44 Says:

    God forbid the 49ers can’t just provide a safe environment for their patrons. Guess its easier to just cancel the venue altogether. How weak. All they have to do is spend the money it takes to have ample security at their games, instead of a bunch of keystone cop responders running around the stadium in circles.

  88. Raiders | Pryor Drafted by Raiders! Says:

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  89. hwnrdr Says:

    I believe Pryor can do anything for the team right now…practice and go to team meetings, etc, etc…when the season starts, he can only do meetings and talk with the coaches…and I believe someone in here mentioned it already…

  90. Kirk Says:

    We traded Aso for Pryor.

    Pretty good trade if you ask me.

    Aso is overrated.

  91. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Jason Campbell needs to step it up if he wants to play for the Raiders beyond this season.

  92. qodrn Says:

    So, if the Raiders keep it up, we can just skip the draft next year altogether. Who knows, maybe using the other football leagues makes more sense anyway. Not too many college players coming out that truly impact a team anyway.
    I think the league should increase the team rosters to 55 or 57 this year. Injuries seem to be up all around the league.

  93. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Pryor does what in 2011?

  94. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Hue Jackson should run for Governor, he is slick!

  95. JohnnyBandwagon Says:

    Hue is a great QB teacher. 1st lesson-do not wear your old Ohio St. jersey number #2

  96. BigTed707 Says:

    Cartwright(3.9ypc, 27total),looked better than Rankin(1.3ypc, 8total).

    Bennet was the best(4.2ypc, 50total), and Bush(3.8ypc, 42total).

    Let Rankin go!

  97. hwnrdr Says:

    Here’s the thing…the guy that got shot was wearing a F the Niners t-shirt. In Oakland, that is enforced. The people wearing those shirts have to turn it around or take it off altogether. I guess it is not enforced at Candlestick….

  98. Kirk Says:

    LMN, we still have another comp pick, maybe a third rounder.

  99. J Hill Says:

    The guy needs to play WR. He can help the team this year.

  100. DKnight007 Says:

    I think getting a talent like Pryor in the 3rd Round to play either QB or WR is a good gamble!

  101. raidertay Says:

    The Raiders want Pryor to play WR and Pryor is convinced that he is a QB. This could end up being a 2012 train wreck real.

  102. RaiderRetribution Says:

    It’s now on Raiders’ official web site.

  103. DKnight007 Says:

    Rankin is gone out of that group.

  104. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Per Corkran tweet: “On Terrelle Pryor’s contract, Rosenhaus says, “I’m optimistic we’ll get a deal done by tonight.” Pryor on a plane to Oakland this afternoon.”

  105. Sullivan44 Says:

    Private venues can reject anyone they want. If they think you’re a gang member, they can rip your ticket up and tell you to leave, on the spot. Even says that in the fine print, on the back of the tickets. They can’t reject anyone based on race, gender, etc.. That’s unconstitutional. But if they see people in line who fit their criteria for gang involvement, they can reject them on the spot. Perfectly legal for a private business. Yet, the Niners did none of that. Because they wanted the good attendance number, and to make as much money as possible for their concessions.

    So, basically, the way it works is, you let all of the thugs in, make as much money off of them as possible. Then, when they fight, you send a bunch of security and cops up to break it up, like keystone cops. Only thing missing is the fast motion and piano music. It’s a joke. Then, when it’s all said and done, you cry “whoa is me” and blame the fans.

  106. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Two players I did not notice playing in the SF preseason game were Mr. Heyer & Mr. Schuening, were they nicked or dinged up?

  107. DKnight007 Says:

    They should utilize Pryors talents in the RED ZONE as a QB or WR!!

    They will need it!

  108. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Hey, can someone explain how “player payment” works on a supplement draft, 3rd round, along with a 6 week game suspension? I haven’t got a clue?

  109. qodrn Says:

    So, far no other team has chosen a player in the supplemental draft. So, why did the Raiders waste a third round choice?

  110. J Hill Says:

    DHB, Ford, Moore, Pryor = studly young WR core

    Boss and Ausberry at TE

  111. qodrn Says:

    Let’s not discontinue a game because of some idiots. Let’s control the idiots. Besides, do the Raiders want to leave it like this?

  112. YoungAmerican Says:

    ClaytonESPN John Clayton
    The five-game suspension of T. Pryor will cost him $100,294 of his $375,000 salary in 2011. He’s not challenging that suspension

  113. DKnight007 Says:

    109.qodrn Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 am
    So, far no other team has chosen a player in the supplemental draft. So, why did the Raiders waste a third round choice?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Cause maybe they felt Pryor is better than any 3rd Rounder they would have picked next year?

    Sound right?

  114. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    109.qodrn Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 am
    So, far no other team has chosen a player in the supplemental draft. So, why did the Raiders waste a third round choice?

    =================================================
    We had no 4th and the Browns, Bengles and other were willing to spend a 4th and the had priority with a worse 2010 record.

  115. YoungAmerican Says:

    ClaytonESPN John Clayton
    Here are T. Pryor’s financial expectations. He should get a four-year, $2.36 million deal including $591,000 to sign.

  116. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders only have 89 on their roster so they will not need to cut anyone once they officially place Mr. Pryor on their 90 man roster.

  117. priesttj Says:

    Yyyaaaahhhooooooooooooooooooo!!

    Terrell Pryor is a Raider is a new day folks this thing has changed and we’re at the top of the list. This kid is the new age QB with the ability to make things happen. he’ll get the best coaching and in two years we’ll unleash him on these boys!!

    People get ready thee’s a train a comin don’t need no ticket you just get on board… Don’t need no baggage you just thank the Lord!! LOL

  118. SlvrBlkLoco Says:

    Why do you say we lost a 3rd round 2012 pick, we just used it on Pryor. It’s not as if the pick disappeared or was lost without being used.

  119. Raider Ray Says:

    Sure hope Pryor doesn’t wear #2. That number should be retired.

  120. Seymour Bush Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Pryor does what in 2011?
    ==========================================

    Holds a clipboard.

  121. raidertay Says:

    You go to love Al Davis. The guy is not afraid to roll the dice. High risk = High Reward.

    As long as they can come to an agreement on his position. I like the pick.

  122. Sullivan44 Says:

    Did Hue Jackson want Pryor?

  123. Haters going to hate Says:

    82.No Mas Diamante Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
    Not worried about next year’s draft. More worrried about facing river’s. He must be very happy namdi is gone.

    ___________

    He never cared about Nnamdi, always threw the ball his way.

  124. Raider Ray Says:

    Anyone have any tips on a good gambling site?

  125. BigTed707 Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Rankin is gone out of that group.
    ************
    So is Bennett once Jones is healthy. Keep Rock and Tonga for their size and blocking ability.

  126. Sullivan44 Says:

    Do you guys think Hue Jackson wanted Pryor? Hue Jackson’s a serious man. Pryor’s kind of flaky. Doesn’t seem like a Hue guy. so, how much involvement do you guys think the HEAD COACH OF OUR FOOTBALL TEAM had in this decision?

  127. DAARAIDERS Says:

    I like this pick and he doesn’t have to even try to play QB this year. He is a better QB and better athlete than the 49′rs 2d round pick Kapernick.

    Priest is going to LOVE this pick. I want to hear from him!

  128. realtruraider Says:

    Hopefully we can keep this coaching staff together. I think they will welcome the challenge to try and make TP a NFL QB

  129. Raider Ray Says:

    Hey, look on the bright side. Pryor can’t be any worse than Russell.

  130. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    126.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:27 am
    Do you guys think Hue Jackson wanted Pryor? Hue Jackson’s a serious man. Pryor’s kind of flaky. Doesn’t seem like a Hue guy. so, how much involvement do you guys think the HEAD COACH OF OUR FOOTBALL TEAM had in this decision?

    ******************

    Yeah saturday was serious lol

  131. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Thanks for the updates on salary. If we’re just paying 3 million, which includes his signing bonus, for a four year contract, that’s nothing. Well worth the gamble. Please don’t remind me of what we paid for JaFatazz, J. Walker and DeAngelo…millions and millions down the drain. Heck, this is a freebee.

  132. J Hill Says:

    2 years of sitting on the bench, eh?

    Going to be REALLY interesting to see what postion he accounts for on the 53 man roster.

    Does a QB get cut, or does a WR?

  133. Buckeyeraider Says:

    This kid was the no. 1 rated HS player in the country. He was being recruited by his hometown Penn State, and Meeeshigan, with their new coach Rich Rod and his shotgun, spread offense. Pryor coulda went there because that college offense fit his skillset so well. he woulda put up huge numbers.

    Instead he came to Columbus to play in a more traditional, Pro style offense. He was 31-4 and MVP of the Rose Bowl. However, he always seemed a lil frustrating to me. Maybe because the expectations were so high.

    He was capable of making some absolutely jaw-dropping highlight reel type plays. And then turn around a make a real head scratcher. He’s young and very talented. Still inconsistant, maybe.

    He might not throw absolute lazers like Vick, but he’s got enough arm, and is a similar athlete. He doesn’t run with as much power as Cam Newton, but I’d say he is very comparable with the no. 1 overall pick in the draft. And the Raiders got him for a 3rd rd pick.

  134. RaidingTexas Says:

    Raider Ray Says:

    Hey, look on the bright side. Pryor can’t be any worse than Russell.

    ————————-

    Not for the price, anyway.

  135. Sullivan44 Says:

    HOORAY FOR GWENN KNAPP!!!

    “This is San Francisco’s problem. The city and its team need to take full responsibility. Any attempt to point fingers at Oakland or the Raiders’ ancient renegade culture ignores vital details and invites further disasters.”

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=95869#ixzz1VmfyPv2T

  136. SlvrBlkLoco Says:

    DHB Round 1 #7 overall, for the guy who said the Raiders dont draft WR high in a draft and wouldn’t draft Pryor in round 3 to not play QB.

    Now lets see what he can do with the play book, try him at qb and find out where he can fit his talent.

  137. RaiderRetribution Says:

    QBs: Jason, Boller, Edwards, + Pryor
    RBS: McFadden, Bush, Cartwright, Jones
    FBs: Reece
    TEs: Boss
    WRs: Ford, Heyward-Bey, Moore, Hagan
    OLs: Vehldeer, Satele, Wisniewski, Barksdale, Campbell, Barnes, Heyer, (Loper or Carlisle)

    DL: Houston, Kelley, Seymour, Shaughnessy, Bryant, Henderson
    LB: McClain, Wimbley, Goethel, Groves
    DBs: Routt, Huff, Branch, Johnson, Brown, Mitchell, Van Dyke, Chekwa

    K: Janokowski
    P: Lechler
    LS: Condo

    that leaves 11 roster spots open

  138. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    One of the back-up QB’s will be traded or cut by the 1st game or their contract is “G”. Look for a cut and a resigning after 1st game.

  139. RaiderRetribution Says:

    If Mr. Pryor had entered this years’ draft he would have gone no later than the 2nd round.

  140. ghostraiders Says:

    Cut boller

  141. oldschoolraider Says:

    Stupid move Al!
    *&^%$@@#!!!!! pryor!!!

  142. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders can trade an OL or a DB for a future draft pick.

    Raiders will trade a 2013 pick to get into the early-mid 2012 rounds.

  143. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    One thing for sure, Pryor won’t be wasting his money on tattoos as he does not have much room left.

  144. redshirt Says:

    I’m sorry… but WHY is taking Pryor with a 3rd round pick “rolling the dice”???

    It’s a 3rd round pick!!!

  145. ghostraiders Says:

    Had Pryor played this season with no problems at Ohio state. .. And Jim tressel was still there… Pryor would have been top 15… for sure in the first round. .

  146. RaiderRetribution Says:

    neither Mr. Edwards or Mr. Boller will get cut before Mr. Pryor can play in week 6, unless they sign Mr. Frye for the short term.

  147. oaktown1 Says:

    Let me get this straight. Ryan Mallet, a prototypical Raider QB was available for THREE rounds and they pass on him. But then they take Terrell Pryor to be their QB in the supplemental draft?! I know they got him to play QB because the Raiders already have WR’s and TE’s coming out of their arse. From the outside looking in, it looks like Al is dying, and wants to take the team down with him. Look, no 2nd, 3rd, or 4th in next years draft?! Raider Nation! What the hell is going on?!

  148. Raider Ray Says:

    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

  149. ghostraiders Says:

    The Guy needs to grow up.. But the potential in this Guy is awesome. ..

  150. Raider Ray Says:

    Al probably told Herrera to get on the phone and draft that Randall Cuningham guy.

  151. JB Says:

    Pryor = Certainly a better prospect than Tim Tebow who cost Denver a 1st round pick. Who knows, he may end up as a real steal. Besides, we should be getting 2 more 3rd round compensatory picks for Nnamdi & Gallery loss.

  152. RedneckRaider Says:

    “Raiders net QB Jason Campbell, QB Terrelle Pryor, RB Taiwan Jones and OT Joseph Barksdale in trades of 2012 2nd-, 3rd- and 4th-round picks.”

    Current QB, Developmental High Risk/Reward QB or WR/TE, Long term option at RB, and potential starter at RT giving us youth and depth on our Oline?

    For 2nd 3rd and 4th next year with the possibility of 2 3rds or more through compensatory picks on the horizon?

    Why are people complaining?

  153. ghostraiders Says:

    Ray.. I guess they could put him in are wide receiver. .. atleast until we see What we have in all those wr.

  154. supapimp Says:

    i think terrelle pryor was making more money at the ohio state university.

  155. DKnight007 Says:

    We have talent, now all the Raiders need is proper schemes, coaching and play calling AND discipline to cut penalties and get both the O-Line and D-Lines to play lower and not play too high and get lazy!

  156. ghostraiders Says:

    Jb.
    .
    very good point.

  157. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    LOL this is hilarious

  158. BigTed707 Says:

    Pryor=The Anti-Tebow

  159. Thec07 Says:

    Terrel Pryor playing in the NFL will be a developmental project. that said makes since to leave him at QB…Him developing at Wr will take a minimum of 2 yrs, ask DHB….

  160. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    NICE POST #152

  161. Thec07 Says:

    makes sense

  162. redshirt Says:

    How is this a bad move? Raiders don’t have to pay him squat… yet everyone (the haters, the media) is treating this like the Raiders just selected Pryor with the #1 overall pick in the 2012 Draft…

    “Typical Raiders.”
    “Stupid Al Davis.”

    Pisses me off.

  163. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Pryor is eligible to play in the last two preseason games.

  164. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    148.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

    *******************

    Another black qb….I know you must be pissed ol Klan Wizard of New Mexico

  165. RaiderRockstar Says:

    WE HAVE A NT! Hendu…how many times do i gotta yell it!

    ***

    ROG,

    I like John Henderson, but he’s not healthy

    He’s missed 7 games last year due to injury

    Hue Jackson says he’s “nicked” again – which could mean anything

  166. RedneckRaider Says:

    Steve/Jerry – If you see this, what are the chances we’ll actually see Pryor play in a preseason game?

    Semi-pros… your thoughts as well.

  167. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Cam Newton – Did not get caught – 1st overall pick

    T. Pryor gets caught = 3rd round supplemental.

    In looking at how dominant both are in College is there that big a difference???? Both are fast running QB’s that can throw but need to adjust to NFL offences. This is a boom/bust pick and has way more potential than I saw with JR! Smart pick in the 3rd round with a 3 and 4 supplemental pick on the way.

  168. Thec07 Says:

    No matter what the RAIDERs do the media will not like it…Had it been let say belichick it would have been fantastic move, great insight, he fits perfectly etc etc etc

  169. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
    Raiders only have 89 on their roster so they will not need to cut anyone once they officially place Mr. Pryor on their 90 man roster.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Leads on to believe Al was going after Pryor no matter what…Even if he blew a hammy running the 40…

  170. ghostraiders Says:

    I really do think… we have our Michael Vicky/Randall Cunningham
    Just be patient now… we only paid a 3rd round… if I remember correctly. .. Johnny Lee Higgins was a 3rd rounder. …lol

  171. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    ** onE ** …errrr…

  172. Thec07 Says:

    Semi-pros… your thoughts as well.
    ++++++

    Unless we have some wildcat or QB option runs, I would not expect to see him in presea.

    He has the playbook to digest, I wouldnt expect it however, the org and other forces may see otherwise….

  173. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    165.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    WE HAVE A NT! Hendu…how many times do i gotta yell it!

    ***

    ROG,

    I like John Henderson, but he’s not healthy

    He’s missed 7 games last year due to injury

    Hue Jackson says he’s “nicked” again – which could mean anything

    **********************

    Best NT we have by far

  174. priesttj Says:

    I’ve told you guys this is a great pick a tremendous move forward for this org. this is the way the league is going now. You saw what Keapernick can do and this kid is hands down a better player and I know some of you don’t care for Cam Newton but that’s who we just drafted another version of a big fast athletic QB who knows how to win. Most of say he cannot pass like an NFL QB and I’m tellin’ ya’ you are dead wrong. He’s at least as good a passer as the QB’s we have now it’s just a matter of him learning the position he’s young and talented and gifted. I love the fact that he will be allowed to sit and learn from JC and Trent how to be a pro and get the proper coaching he needs before ever having to carry this franchise.

    We couldn’t have done a better job, I really wanted Kaepernick but we did even better…………call it dumb luck or whatever but we stole this kid………….period

  175. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Regarding 168 – Media seems committed to story lines. The line for this will be oh no! T. Pryor going to unstable Raiders – he needs a stable place like Pittsburg or NE. Thats why I call them BSPN!

    Al Saunders is good at grooming QBs –

    Note: I also said JR was a really bad pick from day one (Thats who BSPN recommended we pick by the way). I do not know if T Pryor can make the transition – has all the tools not sure he has the attitude… But for a 3rd round when they have a supplemental coming is a really good pick.

  176. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I don’t disagree Thec but I will say he is abetter athlete with natural hands than DHB.
    ————————————-
    159.Thec07 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
    Terrel Pryor playing in the NFL will be a developmental project. that said makes since to leave him at QB…Him developing at Wr will take a minimum of 2 yrs, ask DHB….

  177. lefty12 Says:

    Hendu is the backup,Kelly is the starter.No need to argue about the obvious.

  178. ghostraiders Says:

    ESPN l.a. is cracking me up…. their talking about the s.f. shooting… blame raider fans even when the culprit was a 49er fan… whata joke..

  179. Twocents Says:

    We need to hire a QB coach.

  180. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    Priest

    Usually a lot more negative than you but I agree this is a day to celebrate something done right!

  181. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    177.lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
    Hendu is the backup,Kelly is the starter.No need to argue about the obvious.

    *********************

    Kell sucks and forever will suck…hasnt done schit in this league

  182. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Kelly*

  183. Sullivan44 Says:

    Did Hue want this? I see all of these comments, they’re all about what Al wants. What about our head coach, Hue Jackson? Is he ok with this? did he want pryor?

  184. ghostraiders Says:

    I’m happy we only paid a 3rd rounder…
    he’s definitely an upgrade to vince young… which many here wanted

  185. stablersbeard Says:

    Where do you put him? Practice squad? Who goes so he’s got a roster spot?
    Boller isn’t much, but do you want to have to rely on this kid at QB in an emergency?

    They’ve got until week 6 to figure it out.

  186. ghostraiders Says:

    Report. …

    No more 48er/raider preseason games. … that was the last one!!

  187. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Going to be REALLY interesting to see what postion he accounts for on the 53 man roster.

    Does a QB get cut, or does a WR?

    ***

    Jhill,

    Boller or Edwards will be out when Pryor is eligible WK6

  188. KingDan Says:

    Quentin Groves was a 3rd rounder and didn’t make it out of camp. Worth the risk

  189. Twocents Says:

    Niners and Raiders can always scrimmage. That way the Raiders can continue to get their annual beat down.

  190. ghostraiders Says:

    Looks like Edwards/Billet will be competing for a roster spot until week 6… one of those 2 will be waived. .

  191. lefty12 Says:

    I didn’t want him and was against drafting him.However,now that he is a Raider,I hope he becomes the best QB in the history of the game.

  192. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Boller to be cut.

    Edwards is locked in.

  193. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    lol twocents….truth cuz 49ers punk us

  194. ghostraiders Says:

    Lefty. ..

    I’m more worried about his character than his ability to be a great qb…if the Guy acts more mature and doesn’t take his ability for granted.
    He will be OK..
    But That’s a big “if”

  195. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Have KoolKell pick Pryor up at the airport. Kell can slip him a Mickey then give him Herpes and we can put him on the PUP till next year. Give him a chance to watch the game for a year and hose him on his FA eligibility like Bush.

  196. lefty12 Says:

    I doubt any of our QBs get cut.A lot can and will happen by week 6 of the season.

  197. SlvrBlkLoco Says:

    If thats the last 9er/Raider preseason game, its a gross overreaction to a situation that can be managed better in the future.

  198. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Pryor=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  199. RaidingTexas Says:

    Lefty12 Says:

    I didn’t want him and was against drafting him.However,now that he is a Raider,I hope he becomes the best QB in the history of the game.

    ————————–

    I don’t like the move either. But let’s hope he works out – at some position, QB, WR, whatever. This is one of those times when you don’t want to say “I told you so.” If he fails, the franchise takes yet another hit it doesn’t need.

  200. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    First Al says that Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett-which was ridiculous.
    Then he uses up our last (3rd) pick in the draft on a guy who is a gamble at best when we really need to work on the offensive line.

    There doesn’t seem to be much logical thinking going on in Al’s old head.

  201. DKnight007 Says:

    199.RaidingTexas Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Lefty12 Says:

    I didn’t want him and was against drafting him.However,now that he is a Raider,I hope he becomes the best QB in the history of the game.

    ————————–

    I don’t like the move either. But let’s hope he works out – at some position, QB, WR, whatever. This is one of those times when you don’t want to say “I told you so.” If he fails, the franchise takes yet another hit it doesn’t need.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Low risk, high reward dude. How would the franchise fail if he doesn’t pan out?

    Your saying the 3rd rounder they would have had next year would have been a franchise savior?

  202. lefty12 Says:

    One thing about Pryor,I doubt he’ll be any worse than who we have starting today.

  203. BigTed707 Says:

    I hope this last game lights a fire under the Raiders ass! Obviously some lessons can be learned and improvements can be made.

    Sign Capt. Kirk or Tattoopoo!

  204. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    195.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    Have KoolKell pick Pryor up at the airport. Kell can slip him a Mickey then give him Herpes and we can put him on the PUP till next year. Give him a chance to watch the game for a year and hose him on his FA eligibility like Bush.

    ******************

    LMAO

  205. Buckeyeraider Says:

    One last note on Pryor before I gotta go. It’s a thing of beauty to see that dude out in the open field. It’s almost comical sometimes. The guy is such a phenomenal athlete.

    Defenders are chasing him haplessly. They’re digging, elbows pumping…running as hard as they can…and Pryor is pulling away from them and he looks like he’s just casually jogging. Seriously. He’s got this smooth, almost effortless motion. Deceptively long strides. He just seems to glide.

    While not as physical a runner as Newton…he doesn’t just plow through people, he does have a vicious, DMac like stiff arm. He will knock would be tacklers on their azz.

    As many have said, even if he doesn’t make it as a QB, although I belive he will, he would make an intriguing prospect at TE. Incredible athlete.

  206. lefty12 Says:

    Englander,we have the guys on our team for our future Oline.We didn’t have our future QB(we still might not,but then again maybe we do).

  207. redshirt Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Low risk, high reward dude. How would the franchise fail if he doesn’t pan out?

    Your saying the 3rd rounder they would have had next year would have been a franchise savior?
    ………..

    Finally – someone with a brain and a modicum of rational thought.

  208. Big_Boss_Raider Says:

    Pryor will help the raiders, whether it be at QB or not, get back to the prior winning ways before the 2002 Super Bowl! TP will help wipe those Dookie Grins on the faces of Raider Opponents…LMMAO!

  209. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Pryor lacks the lateral quickness to play wr, he has zero experience at that position as well. pryor at wr is a darker faster matt jones, minus the coke straw.

    he can spend this year in the meeting room and practicing so he may compete for a back up qb spot next year.

  210. dvrick Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:41 am

    wow a 3rd…Wow… might just as well brought back J.RUSSELL will be the same results.Raiders do not know how to draft!!

  211. hwnrdr Says:

    Pryor and Chekwa reunited in the NFL…

  212. dvrick Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    One thing about Pryor,I doubt he’ll be any worse than who we have starting today.But we could of brought bak J.RUSSELL with the same results.

  213. Big_Boss_Raider Says:

    Doubt that Dvrick.

  214. Big_Boss_Raider Says:

    Pryor isn’t half as fat a J. Bust & can actually run the ball either at QB or even TE with short passes.

  215. dvrick Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Did Hue want this? I see all of these comments, they’re all about what Al wants. What about our head coach, Hue Jackson? Is he ok with this? did he want pryor?I guess we really don’t have a head coach.Raiders are a joke!!

  216. bcz24 Says:

    Dvrick… you are copying and reposting your own troll trash?

  217. dvrick Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I didn’t want him and was against drafting him.The Raiders are a joke and deserve to rule in the cellar!!!

  218. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Pryor lacks the lateral quickness to play wr, he has zero experience at that position as well. pryor at wr is a darker faster matt jones, minus the coke straw.

    **********************

    HAHAHAHA

  219. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Lefty, I agree with you about the quarterback. What was true of Campbell in Washington is still true: He takes too long to read the defense, has a slow release and tends to panic under a good-or not so good-rush.
    That causes him to make mistakes like the two he made in the last game.

    Can’t say that I agree with you about the offensive line.
    Satele is average if we’re lucky and the jury’s out on the rookies. Loper’s not exactely a superstar and Carlisle is a journyman but nothing special.

    To me it’s another one of Al’s reverses and it’s a gamble.
    He fires Norv Turner, then says maybe he was a little hasty.
    He lets Gruden go and then says maybe he was wrong on that one.
    Campbell is Jim Plunkett, then he’s not.
    Russell is going to be a super quarterback and then he’s not.

    But like you said Lefty, he’s a Raider now and I hope he’s the new Lamonica, Blanda, Stabler, Plunkett, Gannon or whatever Al decides to call him.
    If he’s a Raider, I’m for him and fuk the rest.

  220. dvrick Says:

    # Big_Boss_Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    I agree with that Dvrick.

  221. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup…

  222. Sullivan44 Says:

    You can scroll up and down this thread…HARDLY ANY MENTION OF HUE JACKSON!!

    Hello?

    Did he resign?

    What was his involvement in Pryor’s pick? Usually when someone sneezes, there’s a ton of people in here attributing it to Hue Jackson and his building of a bully. Today, it’s all Al.

    “Al made the right move”

    “good move, Al!”

    What about Hue?

    What about the head coach?

    Did he have any say in this whatsoever? Or did our owner just force a QB on a HC that the HC may not have wanted?

  223. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    197.SlvrBlkLoco Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    If thats the last 9er/Raider preseason game, its a gross overreaction to a situation that can be managed better in the future.

    ***************************

    As it should so we dont get embarrassed by the niers anymore

  224. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    217.dvrick Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    I just upset. Everyone was talking about Pryor.I thought we were getting Richard Pryor!
    I’m so disappointed.

  225. Big_Boss_Raider Says:

    dvrick Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I didn’t want him and was against drafting him.The Raiders are a joke and deserve to rule in the cellar!!
    ——————————————————
    No One Cares what you want!

  226. Raider Ray Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    148.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

    *******************

    Another black qb….I know you must be pissed ol Klan Wizard of New Mexico
    ——————————-
    I told you I like Campbell.

  227. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    niners*

  228. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    226.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    148.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

    *******************

    Another black qb….I know you must be pissed ol Klan Wizard of New Mexico
    ——————————-
    I told you I like Campbell.

    **********************

    Zeig Heil

  229. ghostraiders Says:

    Hey dvdick… I thought you were a fairy 49er fan.. Wtf?

  230. dvrick Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Pryor lacks the lateral quickness to play wr, he has zero experience at that position as well. pryor at wr is a darker faster matt jones, minus the coke straw.The Raiders are stupid I’d rather root for the NINERS now!!!

  231. dvrick Says:

    # BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    GO Niners the superior team!

  232. RaidingTexas Says:

    DKnight007 Says:

    Low risk, high reward dude. How would the franchise fail if he doesn’t pan out?

    Your saying the 3rd rounder they would have had next year would have been a franchise savior?

    ————————-

    Who said the franchise would fail? You’re putting words in my mouth, dude.

    Third rounder is a little too high for this amount of risk in my opinion.

    This thing just reeks of a typical Al Davis knee-jerk move after an impressive 40-yard time.

  233. redshirt Says:

    49ers suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

  234. Sullivan44 Says:

    Is Hue Jackson still the coach of this football team? Would anyone care to enlighten me as to his role in this acquisition of Pryor? Hue Jackson strikes me as a serious man. Typically serious coaches like serious players. Pryor is flaky. Doesn’t seem to be a Jackson personality type. So, I’m curious. Does Hue even like this move? Anybody have anything to say?

  235. bcz24 Says:

    dvrick Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Im a troll. I have no life. I am probably going to die while practicing auto-erotic asphyxiation looking at child-porn.

  236. ghostraiders Says:

    Go ahead dvrdick.. be a fairy 49er… get outta here nobody cares what you say. . Fairweather fan loser. .

  237. redshirt Says:

    People like Dvrick are the reason why sports fans end up in the hospital.

    Lol, I’ve never gone to another team’s message board to troll… what’s the appeal??

  238. dvrick Says:

    Big_Boss_Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm The Raiders are the Dumbest bunch of Morons!! Don’t know why I ever supported them !!!! GO NINERS!

  239. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Way too much over reaction for a quarter and a half of football. but I have a few observations.

    What was painfully obvious however was that the o-line that started the game is terrible. satele carlisle and barnes were doing the moon walk all night long. They were especially pushed around at the goal line. These 3 players have an edge over the youngsters that are pushing them in terms of technique and experience. How ever they lack severely when it comes to power. this caused an uneven performance. decent protection in between the 30’s, but it broke down in the red zone. If were not for some outstanding play from our skill players the offense would have looked much worse.

    barksdale and campbell playing side by side was very impressive. They are clearly physically superior to carlisle and barnes, yet their technique is inconsistent. it was fun though watching these 2 monsters hammering that defensive front.

    I dont see much of a difference between satele and wiz at this point. my hope is that wiz will continue to improve, as he is already on par with satele as a rookie.

    I love the youngsters but they are not ready to start in prime time. i say rotating them through out the early part of the year will be a good thing to do.

    next year they will be the bully, be patient

  240. Raider Ray Says:

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    226.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    148.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

    *******************

    Another black qb….I know you must be pissed ol Klan Wizard of New Mexico
    ——————————-
    I told you I like Campbell.

    **********************

    Zeig Heil
    —————
    I heard you were raped in the Candlestick bathroom Saturday by some Mexican 49er fans.

  241. dvrick Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Im a troll. I have no life. I am probably going to die while practicing auto-erotic asphyxiation looking at child-porn.

  242. BigTed707 Says:

    Last Year Pryor played in 13 games and had a QB rating of 157.9. He completed 210 passes out of 323 attempt (65pct), thew 27 tds and 11 ints.
    In Rushing he gained 754 yards with 135 carries, averaging 5.6ypc and had 4 rushing TDs.

  243. bcz24 Says:

    dvrick Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I am tying the noose now… my life is such a meaningless escapade in futility.

  244. ohioraider Says:

    Put him at safety. Soon.

  245. ghostraiders Says:

    Raiding Texas. ..

    Calm down bro… you remember Johnny Lee Higgins. .. he was a 3rd rounder… so was Quentin groves.. we didn’t pay a 1st or 2nd rounder.. stop being an alarmist..

  246. dvrick Says:

    # redshirt Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Dumb people like me are the reason why sports fans end up in the hospital.

    Lol, I’ve always gone to another team’s message board to troll… I love the appeal.

  247. dvrick Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    I am tying the noose now… my life is such a meaningless escapade in futility.

  248. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    Is Hue Jackson still the coach of this football team? Would anyone care to enlighten me
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Would anyone care to enlighten you MR?
    That’s such a time consuming task and I’m going to a poker game.

    Jackson isn’t the coach of this team any more than Cable was. The coach is Al Davis.
    I thought you knew MR.
    Why do you think we keep playing man-to-man on defense even though everyone one in the fuk’n world knows it?

  249. big pep Says:

    this dude is 240lbs of fucn rock, 3rd round pick i like that. 31-4 in college nothing wrong with that. atleast he can run till we fix our o-line unlike soup who runs like he has 2 left feet.

  250. dvrick Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    226.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    148.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 BLACK QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

  251. dvrick Says:

    # DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    I just upset. Everyone was talking about Pryor.I thought we were getting Richard Pryor!
    I’m so disappointed.

  252. priesttj Says:

    I would worry aabout my character rather T Pryor’s there’s nothing that kid has done that 30 -40 players already on our team haven’t done. They all understand what he went through even if fans don’t.

    This kid was the most sought after player of his class he was MVP of 2 BCS bowl games. You may ? his ability to throw but you cannot ? his ability to compete at high level. He’s not rich he’s hungry be wasn’t a 1st overall pick he was a supp draft 3rd rndr. He doesn’tr have to carry us before he’s ready all he has to do is work on his craft. it’s the best situation for a young man who’s been thrown under the bus by the public and everyone who cares.

    He didn’t start questionable deeds in college and he wont be the last to do it. It’s an age old problem and he got swept up in it. Give this kid the same chance everyone else gets to earn his way and do the best he can to become whateve he will become.

    The Raider stole this kid they got a playmaker for a 3rd rnd pick. If he stays in school he may have been a 1st rndr who knows. It’s a great day to be a Raider fan……………period

  253. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    240.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    226.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    148.Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Cut boller
    ————-
    I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep 4 QBs. Campbell seems a bit fragile. Edwards is always injured. If those two go down, Pryor would be our starting QB after having no training camp.

    *******************

    Another black qb….I know you must be pissed ol Klan Wizard of New Mexico
    ——————————-
    I told you I like Campbell.

    **********************

    Zeig Heil
    —————
    I heard you were raped in the Candlestick bathroom Saturday by some Mexican 49er fans.

    ********************

    I didnt travel to candleschit….try again

  254. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The skill players are really going to be good.

    Jc made some very nice throws down the field, when he had time to stand in the pocket. The shifting and motions along with the play fakes seemed to set up a nice rhythm for him early in the game. He has confidence in his guys and has shown that he can drive the team. I clearly expect for him to get the team in the endzone next week.

    Jc is taking a lot of criticism for being conservative with the ball, just as he did last year. Jc doesnt throw many red zone picks, because of his cautious approach. I have to side with JC on this one. Turnovers should be avoided even if that means bypassing a risky throw for a possible td.

  255. MistaBrown Says:

    “Pryor is nothing but a skinny legged kid with no moves or power we dont need this young pup….period”

    Sincerely
    priesttj

  256. dvrick Says:

    # Big_Boss_Raider Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Pryor is twice as fat a J. Bust & can’t even run the ball either at QB or even TE with short passes.

  257. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    252.priesttj Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    I would worry aabout my character rather T Pryor’s there’s nothing that kid has done that 30 -40 players already on our team haven’t done. They all understand what he went through even if fans don’t.

    This kid was the most sought after player of his class he was MVP of 2 BCS bowl games. You may ? his ability to throw but you cannot ? his ability to compete at high level. He’s not rich he’s hungry be wasn’t a 1st overall pick he was a supp draft 3rd rndr. He doesn’tr have to carry us before he’s ready all he has to do is work on his craft. it’s the best situation for a young man who’s been thrown under the bus by the public and everyone who cares.

    He didn’t start questionable deeds in college and he wont be the last to do it. It’s an age old problem and he got swept up in it. Give this kid the same chance everyone else gets to earn his way and do the best he can to become whateve he will become.

    The Raider stole this kid they got a playmaker for a 3rd rnd pick. If he stays in school he may have been a 1st rndr who knows. It’s a great day to be a Raider fan……………period

    *************************

    Comedy lol

  258. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders need help at LB, Raiders need Mr. Morrison & Tatupu.

  259. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    254.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    The skill players are really going to be good.

    Jc made some very nice throws down the field, when he had time to stand in the pocket. The shifting and motions along with the play fakes seemed to set up a nice rhythm for him early in the game. He has confidence in his guys and has shown that he can drive the team. I clearly expect for him to get the team in the endzone next week.

    Jc is taking a lot of criticism for being conservative with the ball, just as he did last year. Jc doesnt throw many red zone picks, because of his cautious approach. I have to side with JC on this one. Turnovers should be avoided even if that means bypassing a risky throw for a possible td.

    ************************

    I’m a bigger JC advocate than you are bruh and not tossing that pass to Boss and then not shooting it fast on 4th down voided those 5 great passes he made

  260. priesttj Says:

    Mistic1 the bully is on his way it may take a year to full establish it but it is indeed on it’s way. JC looked good man I have no issues with Camp at all NONE!!

  261. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    258.RaiderRetribution Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Raiders need help at LB, Raiders need Mr. Morrison & Tatupu.

    *********************

    Amen man Amen

  262. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Pryor hasn’t done half of what all the U players in the NFL did.

  263. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Terrelle Pryor goes to the Raiders

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)

    That “round three” buzz surrounding Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor turned out to be dead on.

    The Raiders selected Pryor in the third round of Monday’s supplemental draft, choosing to give up their third round pick in 2012.

    It’s a natural fit. Pryor has the arm strength and physical tools Al Davis loves. They also have an uncertain long-term quarerback situation with Jason Campbell entering a contract year and a noted QB-tutor at head coach in Hue Jackson.

    The pick, of course, is not without risk. The Raiders now don’t have a pick in rounds two-through-four next year. The fact they still decided to go get Pryor is a sign they have big plans for him long term.

    Pryor will be suspended the first five games of the season. When he comes back, the Raiders may cut Trent Edwards or Kyle Boller if Pryor is going to take over the No. 3 quarterback job.

    Although Davis has surprised us plenty of times before, this move was fairly easy to see coming. Pryor just seems like a natural Raider.

  264. MistaBrown Says:

    B, you settled down now ?

    Come off that ledge man lol

  265. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    260.priesttj Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Mistic1 the bully is on his way it may take a year to full establish it but it is indeed on it’s way. JC looked good man I have no issues with Camp at all NONE!!

    *************************

    Yeah so wait until 2012 BHP

  266. BigTed707 Says:

    MR – We will never know the truth if Hue wanted this pick or not. He is going to say he was behind the pick no matter what. He’ll say that he and Coach Davis were “on the same page”.

    IMO, Huge is probably REAL interested in bringing the kid in and seeing what he can do, where he can fit in, and how he can help this team.

    The third round pick was not a big gamble due to the supplemental picks coming in 2012. The biggest risk is finding out whether this kid is a diva, or a worker, a beast, or what.

  267. RaiderRetribution Says:

    most, i should say no ties to Mr. Van Dyke and Mr. Gordon.

  268. RaiderRockstar Says:

    go get Terrell Owens. rebuild complete!

  269. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    264.MistaBrown Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    B, you settled down now ?

    Come off that ledge man lol

    *********************

    Naw man I’m angry…its the same old excuses and schit….we got 6 guys who has no biz starting and we got fools on here who advocate this BS

  270. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    268.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    go get Terrell Owens. rebuild complete!

    *******************

    Ifyou thought staurday’s shooting is bad wait til I get near that muthfka

  271. lefty12 Says:

    You are wrong,Priest.Nobody threw him under the bus.If anything,he threw his university under the bus,and definitely his college coach,who lied for and lost his job for the kid.That is all in the past though and he is now a Raider,so go Pryor.

  272. DeuceDeuce Says:

    We need OLB’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  273. Sullivan44 Says:

    EnglandRaider,

    your petty insults aside, are you saying Hue Jackson had no say whatsoever in this move?

  274. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We will never know the truth if Hue wanted this pick or not. He is going to say he was behind the pick no matter what. He’ll say that he and Coach Davis were “on the same page”.

    ***

    Agreed with Ted. Hue Jackson is a puppet

    He won’t find out if HJ had any say in the selection until the next HC presser

  275. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Hue loves to run reverses and end arounds with his WRs.

    Pryor puts a whole new talented twist to that play; you know Hue wants him on the roster; and if we list him as a wr, a little less money (incentives can be inputted if he becomes a starting qb), we will have 4 qbs.

  276. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    priesttj,

    Dude doesn’t have to start, just learn and compete.

    If dude has character, it will be immaterial whether or not he has a chip on his shoulder.

    Guys like Run DMC, Ford, & Bush can lead by example, and Pryor will have to develop a reputation, not live off his colligate accomplishments.

    Let’s see what he can do….

  277. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Failure will not be excused by me this season….No excuses for not winning the division or at least have a winning record…..our OLBs suck, our DT combo is a joke, We refuse to see that REECE aint schit as a FB and the interior of the oline is softer than a college freshwoman’s tits…….get outta here

  278. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    DHb looks like a different guy. he is going to be a solid player this year. The fact that JC had enough confidence to throw to back shoulder while DHB was being double covered speaks volumes. Then to watch DHB attack the ball in flight and adjust his to the ball and take it away from the defense was very encouraging. these were plays he couldnt make lat year. I know people will still knit pick about him cradling the ball, but you cant please everyone.

    His route running is showing some polish and he looks even bigger and stronger than last year. He absolutely towered over the dbs trying to cover him. Looks like the infamous Davis patience is about to pay off

    60 catches 800-100 yards 7 tds

  279. MistaBrown Says:

    Yah Bush can show him how to refuse to switch positions.
    lmao
    _______

    Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Guys like Run DMC, Ford, & Bush can lead by example, and Pryor will have to develop a reputation, not live off his colligate accomplishments.

  280. big pep Says:

    “i just watched film on him” but i do think hes gonna be good for us in the long run, even if he doesnt play this year. in which i think he will just because of how bad and scared j.c. looks out there. i like this pick.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  281. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ifyou thought staurday’s shooting is bad wait til I get near that

    ***

    ROG,

    I’m glad you’re doing ok man. seriously

    I thought you might hurt yourself if somebody didn’t already hurt you at the 49er game

    the 9balls physically beat us down and you’re still talking trash? learn your lesson bro. all your anti-SF comments cost us a W. we underestimated them (again)

  282. MistaBrown Says:

    Mmmmmmm does that sound good!
    ______

    # BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    softer than a college freshwoman’s tits

  283. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    MB,

    Yup, if that what it takes, I’m all for backbone.

  284. MistaBrown Says:

    Lowdown, I was being sarcastic.

    smh

  285. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    281.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    Ifyou thought staurday’s shooting is bad wait til I get near that

    ***

    ROG,

    I’m glad you’re doing ok man. seriously

    I thought you might hurt yourself if somebody didn’t already hurt you at the 49er game

    the 9balls physically beat us down and you’re still talking trash? learn your lesson bro. all your anti-SF comments cost us a W. we underestimated them (again)

    ********************************

    Please no one on this blog or at that fkin game will do schit to me….TRUST THAT schit patna……we got pummeled becuz Hue and al refuse to see we got the wrong players starting. Cant put this on me at all. I been saying get those losers out the starting lineup

  286. RaiderRockstar Says:

    our OLBs suck, our DT combo is a joke, We refuse to see that REECE aint as a FB and the interior of the oline is softer than a college freshwoman

    ***

    ROG,

    Wimbley & Groves are cool
    Reece is cool
    Loper-Satele-Carlisle are cool too

    Wiz II & Heyer may enter the mix at Guard at some point if those other guys can’t hack it

    Same with Goethel at WLB

    RELAX!

    yes, Kelly & Seymour take plays off – but so does everybody else on the team. Hue better get that fixed and QUICK!

  287. HueKnows Says:

    I’m down he is my net year MUP.

  288. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    281.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    Ifyou thought staurday’s shooting is bad wait til I get near that

    ***

    ROG,

    I’m glad you’re doing ok man. seriously

    I thought you might hurt yourself if somebody didn’t already hurt you at the 49er game

    the 9balls physically beat us down and you’re still talking trash? learn your lesson bro. all your anti-SF comments cost us a W. we underestimated them (again)

    ****************************

    Please I was out and about Sunday still flippin those losers the bird and daring them to see me about anything. I’m still way too pissed for words

  289. HueKnows Says:

    Pryor that is, obviously.

  290. r8dercain Says:

    What’s up be yourself

    man u goin H*A*M on our boys.
    Relax bruh it’s only pre season. Now if we look like this in wk 3
    then press the panic button

  291. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    I’m a bigger JC advocate than you are bruh and not tossing that pass to Boss and then not shooting it fast on 4th down voided those 5 great passes he made
    ============================

    Why? Look at the situation in the game. The score is tied at zero, and you are still in the first half. Be conservative and dont turn over the ball.

    Now if its late in the fourth you might have to take more risk.

  292. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    286.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    our OLBs suck, our DT combo is a joke, We refuse to see that REECE aint as a FB and the interior of the oline is softer than a college freshwoman

    ***

    ROG,

    Wimbley & Groves are cool
    Reece is cool
    Loper-Satele-Carlisle are cool too

    Wiz II & Heyer may enter the mix at Guard at some point if those other guys can’t hack it

    Same with Goethel at WLB

    RELAX!

    yes, Kelly & Seymour take plays off – but so does everybody else on the team. Hue better get that fixed and QUICK!

    **********************************

    Cool? Man those guys suck…bully? My ass there is a bully in Oakland

  293. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Homer: “I was being sarcastic Marge..”

    Marge: “Well duh!”

  294. GoodOle00 Says:

    Pryor story

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle

  295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we got pummeled becuz Hue and al refuse to see we got the wrong players starting

    ***

    wrong players in your opinion are who?

    Reece, Groves & Kelly?

    So we would have won the game with Tonga, Goethel & Bryant starting instead?

    Big John didn’t play, so he wasn’t an opinion for the coaching staff… please submit your comments @RRS

    Thanks

  296. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    290.r8dercain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    What’s up be yourself

    man u goin H*A*M on our boys.
    Relax bruh it’s only pre season. Now if we look like this in wk 3
    then press the panic button

    **********************************

    I’m going bad….fk that. No effort whatsoever and physically dominated by a team full of jcats

  297. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    295.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    we got pummeled becuz Hue and al refuse to see we got the wrong players starting

    ***

    wrong players in your opinion are who?

    Reece, Groves & Kelly?

    So we would have won the game with Tonga, Goethel & Bryant starting instead?

    Big John didn’t play, so he wasn’t an opinion for the coaching staff… please submit your comments @RRS

    Thanks

    *********************************

    Yep them out instead cuz we know those others aint schit and the interior oline sucks….fk all three of those losers

  298. lefty12 Says:

    DHB may have 60 catches;800-1000 yards,but no way will he get 7 TDs.Not with a QB who admits he say a wide open TE in the end zone and refused to throw him the ball.

  299. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cool? Man those guys suck…bully? My there is a bully in Oakland

    ***

    ROG,

    Hue’s words. not mine. Hue Jackson is all talk

    he’s not the bully. he’s the guy that THINKS he’s a bully. big difference. A bully talks trash and backs it up

    A wannabe bully talks trash and then when he gets punched in the mouth, drops into the fetal position and starts crying. HJ = fraud

  300. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    Spare me yall excuses….schit was awful to watch…..lunch break…be back later

  301. BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:

    299.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Cool? Man those guys suck…bully? My there is a bully in Oakland

    ***

    ROG,

    Hue’s words. not mine. Hue Jackson is all talk

    he’s not the bully. he’s the guy that THINKS he’s a bully. big difference. A bully talks trash and backs it up

    A wannabe bully talks trash and then when he gets punched in the mouth, drops into the fetal position and starts crying. HJ = fraud

    *************************

    It looks that way as of now….BBL

  302. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Obviously.

  303. r8dercain Says:

    Let’s see how we play N.O bfore we start worrying.
    There’s plenty of time to get things fixed

  304. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB may have 60 catches;800-1000 yards,but no way will he get 7 TDs.Not with a QB who admits he saw a wide open TE in the end zone and refused to throw him the ball.

    ***

    LOL! Ouch

    but Lefty, I thought Hue Jackson’s offense was a scoring machine?

  305. lefty12 Says:

    saw

  306. BigTed707 Says:

    HJ = fraud
    ***************
    To early to agree with this – The ‘9er game was strike 1.

  307. lefty12 Says:

    I never said or believed that.

  308. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    The run defense is still a huge problem. Tommy kelly continues to over run his gap, and the outside backers were hard to find. I am still of the opinion that groves is not good enough to start, yet I dont see who you play over him in that spot on our roster.

    No need to panic just yet. The defense stiffened up insde the 20 and didnt give up a td. Most of the damage was done to our back ups and scrubs. Im not sure what our starters would have done in a full game. the run defense seemed shaky this week, and good last week. because of the sample size we just dont know how good or bad it is.

  309. Thec07 Says:

    We lose a preseason game and now the HC is a fraud?

  310. Teabag Says:

    Developing Pryor @ QB is going to be a HUGE bust… He should be developed as a WR… period.. he could be a nightmare matchup…

    Anybody who says that you don’t draft a QB in the 3rd to play WR doesn’t know what they are talking about. Sure, Legedu Nanee was drafted in the 5th round to play WR…. But Bert Emanuel was drafted in the SECOND round to play WR

  311. Thec07 Says:

    No need to panic just yet.

    +++++++

    To late Bruh, some have allready jump off the bridge…

  312. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol not to be a jack ass but I called us selecting Pryor in the third months ago. Knowing that we will get a comp pick for Asomugha that will likely be a third rounder and Al Davis expecting us to improve enough that our own 3rd rounder would be a late one I fully expected this to happen. His impressive workout solidified it.

  313. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Broncos make it official: Kyle Orton is the starting quarterback

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)

    Coach John Fox made official what had been apparent since early in Broncos camp: Kyle Orton is his starting quarterback.

    Orton was announced as the Week One starter by Fox on Monday, per the Denver Post. Fox would not declare a backup quarterback, with the Brady Quinn-Tim Tebow battle still ongoing. Quinn looks like the slight favorite.

    ***

    Fox is an idiot.

    We are going to CRUSH the Donks on opening night!

  314. SaintKaufman Says:

    Thec,
    These dudes are insane!

    As far as I can tell the only players we shouldn’t be replacing is maybe McFadden and Seymour. Everyone else has to go. Oh, and the owner should die!

    Great fans, eh?

  315. Teabag Says:

    Brad Smith – Rd.4

  316. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Hu jack is fruad after a preseason game??!?!?

    knee jerk reaction

  317. Thec07 Says:

    I will leave what Pryor develops into up to the org…
    If they see him at QB then I will ride and support it.

  318. r8dercain Says:

    I would have to say of it was regular season we go in at the half make theproper adjustments come back an kick arse

  319. Gerard Says:

    145.ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
    Had Pryor played this season with no problems at Ohio state. .. And Jim tressel was still there… Pryor would have been top 15… for sure in the first round. .

    You’re gonna hear alot of “the haters” say otherwise but what you say is absolutely true.

    Basically, we got a first round , top prospect QB for basically nothing but a 3rd round pick that we could afford to “waste” anyway, given the comp picks we have coming.

    This is a coup, and I’m not even a huge Pryor fan.

  320. lefty12 Says:

    Eldredge Dickey was drafted in the 1st rd and moved to WR

  321. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We lose a preseason game and now the HC is a fraud?

    ***

    always was

    I love the Pryor selection though.

    Al Davis still got it, baby!

  322. GoodOle00 Says:

    Hope Pryor works for us. Multi dimensional threat

  323. No Mas Diamante Says:

    See if you can teach Pryor to be a good qb. If he can’t pick it up then make him a wr/third string qb. Maybe he just han’t had the coaching.

  324. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    EnglandRaider,

    your petty insults aside, are you saying Hue Jackson had no say whatsoever in this move?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    MY “petty insults aside”?! LOL!
    I like my “petty insults” to stay where I put ‘em.
    You sound like a whiner fan.

    Am I saying that Hue had no say in this move whatsoever?
    No, I didn’t actually say that.
    We all know that Al Davis always does what his coaches want. (sarcasm)

    I did read a couple of rumors about Jackson and Al disagreeing on this but it was just on places like prosportsdaily and I have no reason to believe them.
    I don’t know whether Jackson likes it or not but I’m fairly confident that he will come out and say that he does.

    Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

  325. Thec07 Says:

    What up SaintK, Yeah I don’t understand some of the logic…

  326. GoodOle00 Says:

    319. Niiiice!~

  327. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Developing Pryor @ QB is going to be a HUGE bust

    ***

    Pryor is a football player. We could ALWAYS use more of those in Oakland

  328. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Eldredge Dickey was drafted in the 1st rd and moved to WR

    ***

    I hope Kell sees this, LOL!

    He still hasn’t gotten over that, Lefty…

  329. RedneckRaider Says:

    +1 @ #327

  330. raidertay Says:

    Preseason jus became a whole lot interesting:

    “Pryor will be able to practice immediately after signing and play in the remaining two exhibition games. But he will not be eligible to practice with or play for Oakland during the regular season until the team’s sixth game”

  331. Seymour Bush Says:

    Teabag Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Developing Pryor @ QB is going to be a HUGE bust… He should be developed as a WR… period.. he could be a nightmare matchup…
    ====================================

    No. You HAVE TO HAVE a franchise Q to win in this league. HAVE TO. Teams that think they are going to win with Rex Grossman or Tyler Thigpen are huffing glue. Pryor has prototype size and speed for an NFL Q. He has also had a good collegiate career. What’s the down side to him? He played poorly against better competition which is never a good sign. (Rose Bowl MVP aside). Once again, this is a raw project pick, but then again, we have QB guru Hue Jackson as his head and QB coach. Hue did a very very good job developing Joe Flacco who has similar size to Pryor but came in with a resume against much weaker competition than Pryor. Was it worth a 3rd rounder to try to get a franchise Q? Absolutely. Both Mike Brown and Randy Lerner proved they are too cheap. Again.

  332. SaintKaufman Says:

    Yeah, we need to replace logic.

    He sucks too!

  333. Thec07 Says:

    SaintK, some of the bloggers are still suffering from the loss the the niners…Its the end of the world as we know it…lol

  334. Seymour Bush Says:

    raidertay Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Preseason jus became a whole lot interesting:

    “Pryor will be able to practice immediately after signing and play in the remaining two exhibition games. But he will not be eligible to practice with or play for Oakland during the regular season until the team’s sixth game”
    ===============================================

    Terrelle Pryor just got redshirted. Don’t expect to see him this year unless you are watching the practice squad team.

  335. Thec07 Says:

    SaintKaufman Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    Yeah, we need to replace logic.

    He sucks too!
    ++++++++++

    ROFLMAO….

  336. No Mas Diamante Says:

    He cannot practice with the team during the regular season suspension, but he is able to come to the facility.

  337. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Preseason just became a whole lot interesting:

    “Pryor will be able to practice immediately after signing and play in the remaining two exhibition games. But he will not be eligible to practice with or play for Oakland during the regular season until the team’s sixth game”

    ***

    Tay,

    I don’t see Pryor playing in the final 2 Preseason games

  338. RedneckRaider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    raidertay Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Preseason jus became a whole lot interesting:

    “Pryor will be able to practice immediately after signing and play in the remaining two exhibition games. But he will not be eligible to practice with or play for Oakland during the regular season until the team’s sixth game”
    ===============================================

    Terrelle Pryor just got redshirted. Don’t expect to see him this year unless you are watching the practice squad team.

    ******************

    He’d get snatched off practice squad. No way.

  339. KoolKell Says:

    Wow! Pryor!?!

  340. severeraiderz Says:

    RRS

    Pipe down man you sound crazy. Anyone that passes judgment on this team based on a preseason performance, either good or bad, is getting way ahead of themselves. RRS talks as if Hue is the guy playing on the field. Over the last 5 years the colts have won less than ten pre season games, these games shouldn’t even be televised because some of you guys get way too riled up lol. I remember when Shell II went undefeated in the preseason and everyone, even Schefter, was writing about how Art Shell and the raiders are back….yeah back to the stone ages

  341. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Green Bay OLB’s Frank Zombo & Brad Jones are both injured, leaving Erik Walden as the clear starter opposite Clay Matthews.

    Trade Q Groves to GB for a 5th rounder?

  342. raidertay Says:

    You better get him in a preseason game because you wont be able to do anything with him aftr that.

  343. RedneckRaider Says:

    new post.

  344. r8dercain Says:

    I think we were taking him all along just a matter of what round

  345. lefty12 Says:

    I disagree.It looks like the 4th practice game just got a lot more interesting.Pryor will play in that game-probably quite a bit.

  346. raidertay Says:

    I was out camping this weekend. Finally watched the Niner game last nite on the DVR. I didnt think the game was as bad as everyone made it out to be. The score was 0-3 when the starters were pulled out.

  347. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Anyone that passes judgment on this team based on a preseason performance, either good or bad, is getting way ahead of themselves. RRS talks as if Hue is the guy playing on the field. Over the last 5 years the colts have won less than ten pre season games, these games shouldn’t even be televised because some of you guys get way too riled up

    ***

    Severe,

    Please don’t compare Oakland to Indy in any way, shape or form. The Raiders are a young team that needs the practice. Jackson is full of crap. He makes promises that he can’t deliver. I see no difference from him and Cable. As a play caller? Sure. HC? about even

  348. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    254.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    The skill players are really going to be good.

    Jc made some very nice throws down the field, when he had time to stand in the pocket.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Actually Mistic1, he did make some nice throws, you’re right.
    The problem though is the second part of your point.
    The guy tends to panic under a rush as he did last year when he went down two yards from a first down.
    But he did make some nice throws.

  349. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Just heard from a buddy. No link! That the 49er vs Raiders preseaon games will be no more.

  350. big pep Says:

    Pryor is gonna be the man oakland, has anybody seen the arms on that fool, crazy schyt. hes like bushwacker,bones, and i’m a gangster all in one.

  351. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    6-6, 240. 4.4 on the 40 yd dash…and Al held it in his pants for 2 whole rounds!…thing is those numbers up there have nothing to do with playing QB in the NFL. Could Pryor be the next Gates? lets hope so, we need help at TE

  352. Teabag Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Teabag Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Developing Pryor @ QB is going to be a HUGE bust… He should be developed as a WR… period.. he could be a nightmare matchup…
    ====================================

    No. You HAVE TO HAVE a franchise Q to win in this league. HAVE TO. Teams that think they are going to win with Rex Grossman or Tyler Thigpen are huffing glue. Pryor has prototype size and speed for an NFL Q. He has also had a good collegiate career. What’s the down side to him? He played poorly against better competition which is never a good sign. (Rose Bowl MVP aside). Once again, this is a raw project pick, but then again, we have QB guru Hue Jackson as his head and QB coach. Hue did a very very good job developing Joe Flacco who has similar size to Pryor but came in with a resume against much weaker competition than Pryor. Was it worth a 3rd rounder to try to get a franchise Q? Absolutely. Both Mike Brown and Randy Lerner proved they are too cheap. Again.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Pryor is not a franchise QB… Flacco while playing against lesser comp had true NFL QB mechanics and footwork… Pryor, not at all..

  353. inonewordraider Says:

    if Al envisions him as a star WR why wouldn’t he draft him in the 3rd b4 someone else snatches him up?

  354. severeraiderz Says:

    At worst Pryor is Brad Smith

  355. Plunketthead Says:

    Now that he is our jug eared knucklehead, I predict great things for TP. He just has a few small things to iron out and he will be a great QB especially handing off to DMAC & Bush half the time and unloading Als long bomb special the rest of the time.

    BEST YEAR EVER!!!

  356. LTR Says:

    i don’t think we’ll get a comp pick for Miller since we picked up Boss.

  357. Plunketthead Says:

    LTR good point, when the dust clears we will be lucky to get a third for Nnamdi and that may be it

  358. Mum-O-killowe Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 am
    AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
    For ther 2nd, 3rd and 4th-rd pick in 2012, Raiders now have QB Jason Campbell, QB Terrelle Pryor, RB Taiwan Jones and OL Joseph Barksdale.
    ——
    TRUE
    ———————————————————————————————————-

    Nice work by the Raiders. Use 2012 picks in 2009, 2010 and 2011 great way to build a team. And we will trade a QB for a mid round pick after week 6. And we have comp picks coming.

    WIN !

  359. Mum-O-killowe Says:

    Who would you rather have, Pryor or Kapernick??

  360. RaiderSam Says:

    Decent pick up. They could move him to receiver. I’m hoping they have found a gem at QB, because his highlights suggested another Michael Vick…looked very good in the open field running. If he does play receiver he could be a very good run-after-catch type athlete at the position, but he’d have to re-learn route running, beating jams , depth, everything. You can bet that Rosenhaus will be in his ear about “competing ” for the QB position. Boller would be the odd man out.

  361. RaiderSam Says:

    Mum-O-Killowe Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    Who would you rather have, Pryor or Kapernick??
    ================================
    Well, Kaepernick was in the pistol offense where he had spread receivers, and Pryor was in the shot gun and was in a more traditional drop back offense. Looked as if Pryor ran half the time….didnt put up the numbers Kaepernick did, but Colin was at a lower level of competition.

    Pryor might cost less, but has more baggage, Colin is a good guy off the field. Its yet to be seen what Pryor’s act is.

  362. LBBORNRAIDR Says:

    Lets not get caught up in TP being a WR OR QB… He belongs on the raiders as a playmaker… Just check his highlights on youtube… You will see the versatility.. I bet Hue Jack is already imagining all the different ways he can use him to make plays.. Can u say gadget plays anyone… lol

  363. RaiderSam Says:

    Teabag Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Developing Pryor @ QB is going to be a HUGE bust… He should be developed as a WR… period.. he could be a nightmare matchup…
    ====================================

    No. You HAVE TO HAVE a franchise Q to win in this league. HAVE TO. Teams that think they are going to win with Rex Grossman or Tyler Thigpen are huffing glue. Pryor has prototype size and speed for an NFL Q. He has also had a good collegiate career. What’s the down side to him? He played poorly against better competition which is never a good sign. (Rose Bowl MVP aside). Once again, this is a raw project pick, but then again, we have QB guru Hue Jackson as his head and QB coach. Hue did a very very good job developing Joe Flacco who has similar size to Pryor but came in with a resume against much weaker competition than Pryor. Was it worth a 3rd rounder to try to get a franchise Q? Absolutely. Both Mike Brown and Randy Lerner proved they are too cheap. Again.
    ==========================================
    I think Pryor played poorly against better competition, but you cant beat the value for the price. The only problem is without draft picks, its difficult to build a team and you have to overpay for your talent you already have – Seymour, Routt and Wimbley are a couple of examples. Too many reaches and high-risk , boom-or-bust types.

  364. Twocents Says:

    I liked this by Buckeyeraider. It confirms what I’ve seen of Pryor.

    Buckeyeraider Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:32 am
    This kid was the no. 1 rated HS player in the country. He was being recruited by his hometown Penn State, and Meeeshigan, with their new coach Rich Rod and his shotgun, spread offense. Pryor coulda went there because that college offense fit his skillset so well. he woulda put up huge numbers.

    Instead he came to Columbus to play in a more traditional, Pro style offense. He was 31-4 and MVP of the Rose Bowl. However, he always seemed a lil frustrating to me. Maybe because the expectations were so high.

    He was capable of making some absolutely jaw-dropping highlight reel type plays. And then turn around a make a real head scratcher. He’s young and very talented. Still inconsistant, maybe.

    He might not throw absolute lazers like Vick, but he’s got enough arm, and is a similar athlete. He doesn’t run with as much power as Cam Newton, but I’d say he is very comparable with the no. 1 overall pick in the draft. And the Raiders got him for a 3rd rd pick.

  365. dvrick Says:

    # Raider Ray Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Terrele Pryor, hope he’s smarter than other Black athletic QBs.

  366. dvrick Says:

    # Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    DHb looks like a different guy. he is going to be a horrible player this year. The fact that JC didn’t have the confidence to throw to back shoulder while DHB was being double covered speaks volumes. Then to watch DHB bobble the ball in flight and not adjust to the ball and take it away from the defense was very discouraging. these were plays he could make last year. I know people will still knit pick about him fumbling the ball, but you cant please everyone.

    His route running isn’t showing any polish and he looks even smaller and weaker than last year. He absolutely cowered to the dbs trying to cover him. Looks like the infamous Davis patience is not going pay off

    5 catches 00-30 yards 0 tds

  367. dvrick Says:

    # Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Hu jack is fruad after a preseason game!!!!!!!!!And a fraud last year!!! Cable made the calls as we are now seeing!!!FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD!!! GET LOST HU SMACK

  368. dvrick Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Now that he is our jug eared knucklehead, I predict horrible things for TP. He just has a lot of things to iron out and he will be a fumbling QB especially handing off to DMAC & Bush half the time and unloading Als long bomb special the rest of the time.

    ABSOLUTELY THE WORST YEAR EVER!!!

  369. dvrick Says:

    # Gerard Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    145.ghostraiders Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
    Had Pryor played this season with no problems at Ohio state. .. And Jim tressel was still there… Pryor would only have been an 8th rounder for sure. .

    You’re gonna hear alot of “the haters” say the same but what you say is absolutely untrue.

    Basically, we got a eigth round , bad prospect QB for a 3rd round pick that we could not afford to “waste” anyway, given the comp picks we have coming.

    This is a coup, and I’m not a Pryor fan.

  370. dvrick Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Now that he is our jug eared knucklehead, I predict horrible things for TP. He just has a lot of things to iron out and he will be a fumbling QB especially handing off to DMAC & Bush half the time and unloading Als long bomb special the rest of the time.

    ABSOLUTELY THE WORST YEAR EVER!!!THE WORST!!

  371. dvrick Says:

    # JB Says:
    August 22nd, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Pryor = Certainly a worse prospect than Tim Tebow who can’t even make Denver’s 1st team Who knows, he may end up worse then J.RUSSELL. Besides, we won’t be getting 2 more 3rd round compensatory picks for Nnamdi & Gallery a loss PERIOD!!

  372. zopi Says:

    There is enough hating on the Raiders to fill Lake Merritt.
    You weren’t expecting anything else, were you?
    Of course, had anybody else taken Pryor we’d probably be hearing another song.
    I say Pryor is a steal in the 3rd round.

    And, if you listen long enough to the draft experts, you’ll drive yourself crazy, most of them have no clue most of the time, most of them are just geeks.

    The draft is and always will be a crap shoot, just like there was a no-brainer with Ryan Leaf (previous to the draft) going number 1 or 2, Brady went in the 6th round and Montana in the 3rd.

    Vince Young, Jason Campbell, Matt leinart, Kyle Boller, Tebow etc. etc. all were first rounders and will probably never amount to more than mediocrity.

    And as I pointed out Saturday, Mr. Davis is obsessed with getting the next Mike Vick, who knows he just might have landed one. Who knows?
    If by any chance the Raiders are out of the playoffs late in the season, you’d better be ready to see Terrelle Pryor starting over Edwards and or Boller.

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