Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes (8-24-11)
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, August 24th, 2011 at 7:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Most of coach Hue Jackson’s “toys” were on full display during practice Wednesday, which meant a steady diet of running back Darren McFadden up the gut, wide receiver Jacoby Ford in full sprint down the sideline and rookie running back Taiwan Jones blow past defenders as if he were on ice skates.
Jackson can’t contain himself when talking about those players, and watching them up close offers a valid reason why, as well as a glimpse into how explosive the Raiders offense can be this season.
On Wednesday, Jones sprinted into the secondary a few times, turned on the speed and raced past defenders and into the end zone in no time.
“He’s fast, man,” Jackson said. “God can this guy run. He’s extremely fast but he’s very … he’s very nimble and he’s very smooth. I don’t think sometimes you know he’s running that fast.”
Jones is far more than a speedburner, Jackson said. He stands 6-feet and weighs 195 pounds but don’t be fooled by his size.
“For a guy that’s built like he is, he’s very physical,” Jackson said. “There’s a lot of velocity behind the man when he runs into a pile. I’ve been excited watching him out here practice and we’re going to make sure we can crank him up this week and let him run.”
McFadden hears about how fast he is all the time. Now, he has someone who he can rave about.
“Man, he’s fast,” McFadden said. “Like lightning. I was watching him. He was just hitting holes. You see him put his foot in the ground. He was moving.”
*Well, scratch Kirk Morrison off the list of potential linebackers the Raiders might bring in to help fill the void created by the left knee injury to backup Travis Goethel. Morrison signed with the Buffalo Bills on Wednesday afternoon.
The Raiders didn’t sign any linebackers Wednesday. However, Jackson said the Raiders will continue to look at any players, at any position, who can make the Raiders a better team.
*An injury to veteran tight end Brandon Myers midway through practice left the Raiders with only two healthy tight ends — first-year player Kevin Brock and rookie Richard Gordon.
Myers was kicked in the foot by a teammate in a passing drill, and he was escorted off the field by a trainer after being tended to on the sideline.
Projected starter Kevin Boss (knee) and rookie David Ausberry (undisclosed injury) already are sidelined. Boss is listed as week to week, and he likely won’t play against the New Orleans Saints on Sunday night. Ausberry said Wednesday that he “should play Sunday.”
Gordon and Brock made nice catches of high throws Wednesday, showing that they can be counted upon if needed.
“I just play the role that they tell me to play,” Gordon said. “If they ask me to go catch passes, I catch passes, but mostly they brought me in for blocking. I can transition anytime they ask me to.”
*On Tuesday, Shane Lechler punted a ball that traveled 80 yards in the air. It was kicker Sebastian Janikowski’s turn to take center stage Wednesday.
Janikowski lined up for a 64-yard field-goal attempt at the end of practice, with the eyes of his teammates, coaches and friends fixed upon him. The kick sailed through the uprights, to the delight of fans and teammates.
Jackson then backed up Janikowski 5 yards and let him attempt a 69-yarder. The ball appeared to have the distance, but Janikowski said it came up a foot or so short. Janikowski said he drilled a 70-yarder the other day.
“I missed the second one,” Janikowski said. “I didn’t hit it good.”
Jackson said he is comfortable with Janikowski kicking from anywhere on the “plus side” of the field, meaning from 59 yards and closer.
“I’ve been around four other teams and I’ve never seen a guy kick a ball like that,” Jackson said. “It’s not like he’s taking a running start. The guy takes two steps and, boom, there goes the ball, it goes through the uprights.”
Janikowski’s career-best is the 61-yarder he made against the Cleveland Browns in 2009, in the snow. The NFL record is 63 yards — Tom Dempsey in 1970 and Jason Elam in 1998.
*The Raiders have been waiting for one of their four first- and second-year cornerbacks to step up and separate themselves from the pack. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeremy Ware.
On Wednesday, Ware ran stride for stride with rookie receiver Denarius Moore on a fly route and denied Moore an opportunity to make a play on an overthrown pass. He later knocked away a deep pass intended for receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.
That’s the kind of production Jackson is hoping to see from Ware, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Walter McFadden and Chimdi Chekwa, as he seeks reliable options at nickel and dime back.
*Eighteen players missed practice Wednesday, including defensive tackle Richard Seymour, middle linebacker Rolando McClain, Boss, cornerback Chris Johnson and receiver Chaz Schilens.
Jackson said he is confiden that most of those players will be back pretty soon and that the Raiders will be at full strength in time for the regular-season opener Sept. 12.
*The last time the Raiders played the Saints in an exhibition game, Saints quarterback Drew Brees completed 14 of 17 passes for 179 yards and two touchdowns in a little more than one quarter of play.
Guess who’s coming to town Sunday night? Here comes Mr. Brees and his high-flying offense once again. Jackson said it poses “an unbelievable test” for his cornerbacks.
Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said forget about how he and his defensive mates played in the first two exhibition games. Sunday night’s game will be the litmus test.
“(Brees) gets the ball out of his hands, he makes great decisions with the ball,” Kelly said. “They have got people on the outside that can scare you. They have a real complete offense. We’ll pretty much know if we’re headed in the right direction after Sunday night.”
*Quarterback Terrelle Pryor still hasn’t signed a contract with the Raiders. Until he does, he isn’t allowed to join his teammates in Napa.
Jackson said Pryor will be here in due time and that the focus needs to be on the players who are here right now.
“I’m sure when he walks in this place, everybody will know that he’s here,” Jackson said. “Again, he’s just a piece of the story. The true story that’s going on right now is this football team and the chance that we have to be a very good team.”
*Finally caught up with veteran receiver Derek Hagan to ask him his thoughts on Jackson crediting part of his success to avoiding the trap of getting caught up in playing video games at night.
“No, I don’t play X-box too much,” Hagan said. “I do, but there’s no reason. We’re in training camp, and you shouldn’t even be playing video games. You got to get your study time in. This is my job, this is my profession and it’s something I love to do. I try to stick what I do best and that’s playing football.”
Spend a few minutes with Hagan or watch him practice, and it’s hard to imagine him not making the roster. In fact, it begs the question, why did another team let him go?
He runs hard, executes precise routes, catches most everything and plays with a confidence missing in some of the younger receivers on the roster. Hagan, 26, is the second-oldest receiver on Oakland’s roster, second only to Shaun Bodiford. So, it’s likely that he will be the oldest on the team if he makes the 53-man roster.
Hagan says he learned his work ethic from the veteran receivers when he joined the Miami Dolphins in 2007.
“It’s just watching other receivers that I’ve been around in the league,” Hagain said. “When I started off as a rookie in Miami, I had Chris Chambers and Marty Booker, just following those guys. Now, they just passed it down to me and just knowing that you got to put in that time and that work just to be a great player. That’s something that I definitely try to do.”
The other Raiders receivers would do well to follow Hagan’s lead.
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August 24th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
CODE BLACK 2011
August 24th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
2nd!
August 24th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Cornfucious so worried about leaky corners. So worried.
Cornfucious wish Nnamdi still here. Corners are going to be very very leaky. Hope Mister B can fix leaky corners.
Cornfucious very worried Al Davis
not going to be happy.
Al Davis
going to be very upset at leaky corners.
Cornfucious so very sad Raiders lose two games and one of those games to dirty laundry across the bay.
Leaky corners have me very very very worried. We have trouble stopping run, we have trouble on outside passes, whole defense leaky. Very leaky. If defense cant come off field, we have no offense.
August 24th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
I want to see the staring o to put up some points this weekend.
August 24th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
*starting
August 24th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The Silver and Black will be an offensive juggernaut!
August 24th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Finally, needed my Silver & Black ‘fix’ for today
August 24th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Steve,
Put a date on these “Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes” titles. Example “Training camp practice highlights, notes and quotes-8/24/2011″
August 24th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
We won’t know what we have until all of our best players are on the field. DMac, Ford, Moore, Boss, Bush, Jones, etc…
August 24th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Defense better sack up for this game vs. Saints.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
What other free agent LB’s are available aside from Lofa Tatupu?
August 24th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
I hate Tom Brady.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Just saw a short clip on NFLNetwork of Brady. Makes me angry to see him.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I hate Patriot fans too. Sure hope we beat their a$$es this year.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Brady say tuck rule screwed Raiders.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Confidence wise, I think this game is huge. Offense has to get going, defense does as well. Still a preseason game but I think they need this game for many reasons.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
What no Moore highlights at practice today? The tuck rule game cost us a championship and ultimately led to Woodson leaving Oaktown.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
We won’t know what we have until all of our best players are on the field. DMac, Ford, Moore, Boss, Bush, Jones, etc…
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Hmmm, 2 rookies, a FA and a 2nd year WR. I can dig it.
GO RAIDERS
August 24th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
DHB, Ford, Murph, Moore, Schilens, Hagan.
Sorry Nick, your services aren’t needed anymore.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
August 24th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
CB’s will prob get abused on Sunday, guaranteed but not the most important thing on Defense as we know they are young with CJ out. What we *need* to see is a good pass rush and a much better run defense – especially against the stretch and cut back runs like the whiners ran with maddening success. McClain needs to step it up big time – show he can read, get into, and stay in the correct gaps and make the damn tackle. Groves also needs to show he can be relied upon. Wimbley needs to start getting off blocks like he did last year. Also, hope to see Stevie Brown step it up a bit as he will be playing alot more this year – esp since Mitchell is out for who knows how long (prob had knee surgery – still on crutches).
On O, its all about the damn oline!! Who starts in that game is prob the week 1 starters and we need to see them play well against the blitzing and many front D of the Saints. Hate to see Loper starting – hope Wiz can be the guy at LG. At RT, its a sad state now – nobody has played well there yet whatsoever.
* Still kinda strange they haven’t signed Pryor yet. With the wage scale there’s nothing to really negotiate… maybe they’re waiting till camp is over on Friday to avoid all the press..
Will be interesting to see Taiwan play – if he’s as good as they say, its going to really help us. The kid looks *really* thin though, especially in the upper body – he looks like a CB, no wonder he’s fragile. He needs to start hangin with Dmac and work on the chest and arms in the gym. Gotta have guns to play RB in the NFL.
Go RAIDERS!!
August 24th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
What is more of a need to this team, right now? A b:u OLB, or a decent vet CB?
August 24th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
CDE, what do Biceps have to do with running the ball?
August 24th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Only thing that’ll bother me if the defense shows up and plays really well vs. N.O. is it’ll probably result in not getting someone else to the LB unit.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
I think we need a play making OLB! Groves is not the answer. I think we need to let the young CB’s grow to see what we have.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Borsilli Eddie Borsilli
Kirk Morrison told us tonight that the #Raiders got into the bidding late for his services but didnt want to play the weak side
August 24th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
alexmarvez Alex Marvez
by caplannfl
Newly signed BUF LB Kirk Morrison said on Sirius XM that Shawne Merriman was recruiting him for the past 1 1/2 weeks to join the Bills
August 24th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Oh please mo Groves on this team not even as a backup. Just wait and pick up the cuts of a LB rich team. That’ll be better than Groves who is a day late and a dollar short on almost every play. Tatupu is injured otherwise someone would have signed him.
I’m not sold on Ro McClain in the middle either.
Replace Ro w Mr. Willis across the bay and we will be in AFC championship game. Without a general like Willis in the middle and w a timid way Ro has played so far we are in trouble almost against any team running on us up the gut. Unless Ro shows us a new aggressive playmaker Ro it will be trouble.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
On paper, Oakland’s offense has the potential to be one of the most explosive on recent memory. They’ll need every bit of that, given the defense’s struggles. I, personally, can’t wait to see Moore and Jones on the field.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
23. Mum-O-killowe
Ball security, protecting the upper body when taking on tacklers, pushing off of tacklers, stiff arm, catching out of the backfield. etc. Its a general indicator of overall muscle density and he def needs more to consistently play in the NFL. Not too many thin RB’s playing in this league.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I’m down with Taiwan and Denarius. Thinking I might invite these 2 new silver and black homies to the penthouse to party with Beeecham, the PARTYDUDE 8000, my smoking hot skanks and all you can eat Togos party subs.
If they get down, I’ll let them bust a move on the Reggae Party Boat. May even let one of my ladies slob their nob, as long as they roll me a spliff first.
Where’s old goat Krappy? Somehow this blog is just a little more fun when I’m slapping that poor punching bag around.
CHEEZ WIZ IN THE BIG MIZ
August 24th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Kirk went to the Bills? Damn, the Raiders offer must have been small. Merrijuice sux without his ‘helpers’ so Kirk prob figured he’d get lots of playing time when MerriGrowthHormone goes down with bone injury or gets busted again. ‘Those weren’t my steroids, officer’.
Does Kirk know how frikin cold it gets over there? And how bad the Bills suck?? Wish he would have come back home. Anyway, looks like we’ll have to wait for the waivers to replace Goethel – he will definitely be replaced no doubt so its only a matter of time. Groves is now a lock to make the team and start, hope he steps it up.
August 24th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
CDERaider Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
23. Mum-O-killowe
Ball security, protecting the upper body when taking on tacklers, pushing off of tacklers, stiff arm, catching out of the backfield. etc. Its a general indicator of overall muscle density and he def needs more to consistently play in the NFL. Not too many thin RB’s playing in this league.
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Don’t take this the wrong way but it doesn’t sound like you understand the RB posisition.
Do you know why we have Football players even waste Their time with curls?
August 24th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
When I heard Morrison was going to the Bills I said SEE YA. Wouldnt want 2b ya.
Raiders > bills
2010 8-8 > 4-12
Hometown team vs. Cold arse, little town buffalo
Playing WLB on 6-0div winner vs. MLB on 1-5 div bums( say hey 2Pats,Jets,nd Fins)
He told Gil Brandt tonite his decision wasn’t based on money
If he thinks he, merriman, nd Barnett are the missing pieces then he on that ice!
August 24th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
It’s funny how his ass was a free agent up to the day the Raiders needed a LB. Not saying the two are connected, but in the words of Randy Moss “something fishy going on “. I think Capt Kirk feelings were hurt by us drafting Rolo nd trading him.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
I think it’s good our young Cb’s are going to see Brees this weekend. You know he will school them. But it will be a good opertunity for them to see what they did wrong against a top tier QB. Great experiance for them and the coaches.
Rather it now then the reg season.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Why was Seymour not at camp? 30+ club?
Nice to hear DMAC, Ford, and T.Jones are doing their thang!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Good Luck Capt. Kirk!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I think we are essentially set on offense. In next year’s draft we should focus on O-line and front seven.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
The Sainys got beatdown by the lowly Sqwaks last year – they’re all hype!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
The tuck rule cost us a champion…—-+–+-+++— f a championship ..it cost us a Dynasty
August 24th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RoMac needs to step up and become dominant at MLB. If he can’t, move him to OLB and get another Mike. He was supposed to be the best of the best. But, I have yet to see that player on the field. Yes, I saw him toss Sproles on his ass & out of the game but he needs to be doing that to all who enter his area. He doesn’t get off blocks all that well either. So far, he’s a big disappointment to me. Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis he’s NOT. I don’t know if he’s over thinking things or what. He just needs to stick his nose in there and create chaos. Maybe Seymour needs to take him aside and smack him around a bit – show him how its done. Now is the time for him to stand-up, be counted and kick some a$$.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I’m down with Richard Gordon – there is more to the TE position than the ability to run and catch.
Ausberry didn’t help us at all against the ‘9ers.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
“I just play the role that they tell me to play. If they ask me to go catch passes, I catch passes, but mostly they brought me in for blocking. I can transition anytime they ask me to.”
Hey Steve, who said that? Gordon or Brock? Probably doesnt really matter anyway..
August 24th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
I just remember C.Woodson getting picked apart his rookie season. Dont remember who it was against but they kept comming after him. You could see when he just said enough is enough. He turned it on and never looked back. I just hope one of our young CB’s do the same. And thats not going to happen against our 3rd tier QB’s in practice. It has to be against a top 5 guy like Brees.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
excited to see some of the pieces of the offense begin to assemble. but this game is a bigger game then most people think. Not in regards to winning and losing, but the Raiders have to show what type of team they are. If there a Dline driven defense, they gotta get pressure to Breeze, if there a smash mouth offense, they gotta pound the rock..
I too am also excited to watch Our DB’s go against the Saints offense, because there gonna bring it. And to be frank, NONE of the raiders DB’s have shown any promise, esp the rookies and second years.
Sad to hear about the injuries, but they are part of the game…I think groves can hold his own and i see him playing well enough for him not to be the weak link on the defense
August 24th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
RoMac may be the OLB we are looking for. If so, where do we find a MLB. Who could we trade to the Bengals for Ray Malaluga. Now there’s another hitter. Pay attention RoMac.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Hey Steve, who said that? Gordon or Brock? Probably doesnt really matter anyway..
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Good point. I just assumed it was Gordon.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Our O is going to be solid. There are a small handful of things that pass through my mind on a daily basis. One of those things is September 12th at Denver. Were smashing! Raiders
August 24th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
We have alot of weapons on offense
August 24th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I got faith that Greg Biekert will get the LBs shaped up before too long…
Remember we got a new LB coach and a new DC, and it may take more than a few preseason games to get all the kinks worked out.
Goethel was a back-up MLB, losing him means we need a replacement MLB – WLB is a separate issue, and I think the org is happy with Groves for now.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
We may have Sam Williams as starting MLB this Sunday!
Yuck!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
We may have Sam Williams as starting MLB this Sunday!
Yuck!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I’m down with Taiwan and Denarius. Thinking I might invite these 2 new silver and black homies to the penthouse to party with Beeecham, the PARTYDUDE 8000, my smoking hot skanks and all you can eat Togos party subs.
If they get down, I’ll let them bust a move on the Reggae Party Boat. May even let one of my ladies slob their nob, as long as they roll me a spliff first.
Where’s old goat Krappy? Somehow this blog is just a little more fun when I’m slapping that poor punching bag around.
CHEEZ WIZ IN THE BIG MIZ
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Slut!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
We have alot of weapons on offense
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True, we have speed all over the place.
imo – we need more big blocking types on Offense.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Rolo will be better guys… Come on he is just going into his second year! If it’s no better this year then let him have it.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
If ro is out bring in TATUPU have him play MLB AND HAVE GROVES FOR WLB TILL RO IS BACK THEN HAVE TATUPU AT WLB
August 24th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
The tuck rule cost us a champion…—-+–+-+++— f a championship ..it cost us a Dynasty
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Cost us jon gruden
August 24th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
# JB Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
We may have Sam Williams as starting MLB this Sunday!
Yuck!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
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And ya’ll are talkin trash about Romac – You better hope Romac gets healthy! We need that guy!
There is no reason to assume Romac won’t improve on last seasons rookie performance!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
If ro is out bring in TATUPU have him play MLB AND HAVE GROVES FOR WLB TILL RO IS BACK THEN HAVE TATUPU AT WLB
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I’m down with this.
Or even keep Lofa at MLB, and see what Romac can do on the outside!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Wow… Darryl Blackstock had 6 solo tackles last weekend?!
Groves had only 3!
My boy C-Frank needs to step it up!
Look for #47 – C-Frank – to have 5Solo Tackles and a FF against the ‘Aints!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Look for Jerome Boyd to make the roster as a LB, not a S.
He’s currently leading the team in tackles.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
J-Camp is sporting a 95.8 QB Rating so far in 2 PS games.
He better get some TDs on Sunday!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
# TheGeneral Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
If ro is out bring in TATUPU have him play MLB AND HAVE GROVES FOR WLB TILL RO IS BACK THEN HAVE TATUPU AT WLB
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I’m down with this.
Or even keep Lofa at MLB, and see what Romac can do on the outside!
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That plan may have merit. Certainly worth a try. RoMac is supposed to be better coming from angles. MLB is basically straight ahead. RoMac came from a 3-4 defense. It’s possible that he’d be much better from the edge.
August 24th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Dammit dammit….hue changed the starting lineup on the line now……put the bullles on the field!
August 24th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
*Sorry, BLKSTK only had 5 solo tackles last week – still not bad – Groves only had 1.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Did you happen to see if they were near the LOS and not down the field tackles?
August 24th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
I doubt Romac is being switched to WLB…..thats an awful idea by the way. Lofa is a football player with playoff experience and caused many of turnovers. Thats a playmaking player. No prob with him at WLB. You gonna be surprised to see what he would bring to the defense
August 24th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
ROG –
I don’t think the OLine is currently the biggest issue on the team right now. DMAC, Bush, and T.Jones are gonna tear it up, and the pass protection wasn’t too bad last week. For the most part, our QBs had time, but made poor decisions anyway.
The biggest issue is Sam Williams starting at MLB this weekend if Romac doesn’t get healthy!
And secondly, is Ware the answer at Nickel CB? Can anybody fill in for CJ37?
August 24th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
# Guy Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Did you happen to see if they were near the LOS and not down the field tackles?
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Nope, nor do the stats show how many times they whiffed outright!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Can somebody help me out with this? I know game 3 of the preseason is a “dress rehearsel” but do the starters play the whole game or just 3 quarters? Or less? I can’t remember. Thanks.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Veldheer, Heyer, Satele/WiZ, BCampbell, Barksdale. That who should be the starting O-line. The sooner we get these guys playing together the sooner they start playing like a single unit. Satele should start at center until Wiz 2,0 can take it away through better play.
BCampbell lacks technique but makes up for it with strength and meanness. He develop quicker if on the front line learning via OJT. Heyer has shown he’s the best candidate for OLG. Barksdale is already, as a rookie, the best option with the best upside for ORT. That means 2 vets, 2 2nd year men & 1 rookie. That’s workable.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Why does Hagan have to defend his X-Box use? Is it that big of a distraction to him?
Take the video games away coach! Give ‘em back after wins only!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
A lot of players get release after this week, I think were gonna wait for that to get our LB.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Starters may play a half at the most. Then the 2’s & 3’s.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
# Gerard Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Can somebody help me out with this? I know game 3 of the preseason is a “dress rehearsel” but do the starters play the whole game or just 3 quarters? Or less? I can’t remember. Thanks.
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I’m not certain, but I think it’s common for the starters to play at least the first half, with some starters playing with backups in the third quarter, then the second unit in the 4th.
The teams are also supposed to scheme each-other for the third game, as in they actually make a game-plan.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
TJ reminds me of Chris johnson of Tenn and his style is similar to both CJ and Jamaal Charles. He’s as fast as CJ and built like him too but his running style is a lot like Charles. The kid has it all spin moves stutter steps and great vision. I think I’m changing my MUP to Taiwan Jones folks…….I love RB’s and this guys is my guy plus we share initials.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Maybe they’ll roll Bruce Davis II inside. At least he has the size (6′3″ 250#) to survive in the middle.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
75.JB Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Starters may play a half at the most. Then the 2’s & 3’s.
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Thanks. I thought they played more than that seeing as so much stock is placed on game 3 as being the most indicative of how your team is gonna look.
Was it two yrs. ago when we played New Orleans at home and got squashed 45-3 in game 3? Think we ended up 5-11 and Saints won the Super Bowl. In that case, i guess it was indicative of how things would sort out.
If that’s the case, then I hope we can at least not play horrible.
I’m just hoping that we can see some visual evidence that we are not as bad a team as we look to be.
Show us a lil’ somethin’ somethin’.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Right on BHP!
Me, I’m just hoping the Rookie doesn’t fumble!
It’s a long road between here and the pro-bowl for the kid, but I wish him the best of luck!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Priest
Are we allowed to change our MUP. If so put me down for DMoore.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
We got a huge hole in the depth chart where Goethel, R.Brown, and Howard used to be.
We need depth at the LB position, like now!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
BHP – You Bailing on Ausberry already after one drop?!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Just saw Nnamdi Asomugha responding to a reporter on ESPN. Made me think. Do we even have another good player (proven) who’s also a great role model? I can’t think of one. You want to talk about veteran leaders. You’re not going to find a better one.
Deal Al, I would have rather had Nnamdi than those “3 quality players”..whoever they are.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
“Dear Al”, not deal al
August 24th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
TATUPU TATUPU TATUPU!! I mean how hard is it to play WLB and he shouldnt have a problem in coverage he has 10 ints throughout his career which is more than morrison
August 24th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
With all the emphasis on this team for speed i’m surprised we hardly ever see a long bomb TD pass. When was the last time we had one of those? I’m thinking back and all I can come up with is Stabler to Branch. I know there’s had to be others but I just can’t recall it for the life of me.
Marinovich to Alexander “if lovin’ you is wrong i don’t wanna be” Wright? Or Hostetler to Jett? Or Mirer to Mervyn Fernandez? All right, i’ll stop.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Al GET TATUPU BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Gannon to Brown in OT aginst the Niners in 2000.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Jwalrus to Murphy Vs Chargers in 2009
August 24th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
No I’m just a huge fan of RB’s and I love this kids game, it’s actually hard for me to go away from Ausberry because I think he’s goig to lead the TE’s in rec’s. But TJ is my namesake and the kid is just lethal.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Where the OLine struggles most is on the goal-line. We need to be able to sink it in from two yards out like it’s automatic!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Just saw Nnamdi Asomugha responding to a reporter on ESPN. Made me think. Do we even have another good player (proven) who’s also a great role model? I can’t think of one. You want to talk about veteran leaders. You’re not going to find a better one.
Deal Al, I would have rather had Nnamdi than those “3 quality players”..whoever they are.
————————Very unwise for Al to let a quality player walk. But hey, he’s done it before, and with coaches too, so wtf!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Got a candidate for the MUP list MR?
August 24th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
89.Orthodoxdj Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Gannon to Brown in OT aginst the Niners in 2000.
90.TheGeneral Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Jwalrus to Murphy Vs Chargers in 2009
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Yeah, the Gannon to Brown wasn’t really a bomb but it was a beautiful play for sure, and that one to Murphy from JR was one that shocked me. He was WIDE open.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
We need to give TJ a suitable nickname. But I’m drawing blanks we have Run DMC and this kid is going to blow minds once he sees the field in the NFL at Denver he is going to blow minds.
August 24th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
..only problem is how much are we really gonna see of Taiwan with DMAC and Bush in the mix?
August 24th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
# Gerard Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
..only problem is how much are we really gonna see of Taiwan with DMAC and Bush in the mix?
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The more we can get teams to punt, the more we will see Jonesy running it back!
August 24th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Travis Goethel – LB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Trent Edwards – QB
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Ryan ; Pryor – QB?
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
August 24th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
BigTed707
let’s make s trial run of points for MUP in this Sunday Night Spectacular vs NO.
Td’s = 5 pts
Int’s= 4 pts
pick 6- 6 pts
sacks = 4pts
plays over 20 yards = 2 pts
pass over 100= 1pt 200=2pts 300=3pts
Td pass= 5 pts
pass broken up -2pts
over 4 tackles= 3pts; over6 tackles=4pts; over 8 tkls= 5pts
TFL= 3 pts
FF= 3pts
No sacks allowed= 4pts; most agressive blocker=4 pts
sacks given up = (-2pts)
TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
If there’s anything I should add positive or negative please submit….
o
August 24th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
let’s make s trial run of points for MUP in this Sunday Night Spectacular vs NO.
Td’s = 5 pts
Int’s= 4 pts
pick 6- 6 pts
sacks = 4pts
plays over 20 yards = 2 pts; plays over 40yards= 4 pts
pass over 100= 1pt 200=2pts 300=3pts
Td pass= 5 pts
pass broken up -2pts
over 4 tackles= 3pts; over6 tackles=4pts; over 8 tkls= 5pts
TFL= 3 pts
FF= 3pts
No sacks allowed= 4pts; most agressive blocker=4 pts
sacks given up = (-2pts)
TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
If there’s anything I should add positive or negative please submit…
August 24th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
punt return for yardage
August 24th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
TJ
What’s the value of:
• a fumble
• fumble recovery
• strip causing a fumble
• Getting pants dropped on Nat. TV (ala T. Kelly) LOL
August 24th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
I know he will be used aparingly and that’s why it was hard to move away from Ausberry, Ausberry will lead the TE’s in rec’s this year and maybe yardage. That kids is going to set it off this year.
But I love RB’s and TJ is special the’re going to find ways to get him and Ford and DHB and Moore and DMC the ball. WOW that is a ton of talent I’m not sur Hue jackson can win or lose for that matter. he has got to find a way to utilize all these players. I don’t envy him too many playmakers, playcalling will be crucial because he has to find a way to use Bush he cannot ignore that guybut I can see games where he will forget that guy is even on the team…………LOL
August 24th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
TJ
Add to list:
• false start penalty
• holding penalty (O & D)
• pass interference penalty (O & D)
• 50 yd + FG
• 60 yd + punt
August 24th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
PR yardage is plays over 20 yards
FF(forced fumble)
FR needs to be added
“pants on the ground” -2 pts lol
August 24th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Td’s = 5 pts
Int’s= 4 pts
pick 6- 6 pts
sacks = 4pts
plays over 20 yards = 2 pts; plays over 40yards= 4 pts
pass over 100= 1pt 200=2pts 300=3pts
Td pass= 5 pts
pass broken up -2pts
over 4 tackles= 3pts; over6 tackles=4pts; over 8 tkls= 5pts
TFL= 3 pts
FF= 3pts
FR= 3 pts
No sacks allowed= 4pts; most agressive blocker=4 pts
sacks given up = (-2pts)
TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
August 24th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
On criticism i had about the play calling last year was how McFadden was used as a workhorse. He had a great year, but the thing about rb’s in this game is that if they are overused, they break down real fast. Look at all the major workhorses in the league and you’ll see that most of them have 2 to 3 really amazing years and then they just break down. They become injury prone, they become much slower, and then they become Larry Johnson.
But one of the things that makes McFadden special is he is so versatile. We also have the luxury three very talented backs. I think it would make a lot of sense to give mcfadden in the area of 10-15 carries, and maybe 5-7 passes as well. This way you are still keeping him a major part of the offense, but your getting the ball to him in different ways. He doesn’t have to take a beating all game, and continue pounding in for tough yards. Bush is better at that anyways.
In the meantime we throw bush at a defense 10 times, maybe 4-5 touches for TJ, and what you have is 3 rb’s; all fresh, all contributing, and all giving the defense a different look. I’d love to see how that kind of offense would look like.
August 24th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Mr. Hagan’s jersey number change from 6 to #80 is now on the Raiders’ roster on their official website.
August 24th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Everyone please tally your own MUP’s points and we will review the proposed winner and the top 4 points players. And the winner gets 4 pts for the season each winner tallies 4 points going into the next game. So at the end of the winner how many times your MUP wins the “winner of the week” WOW! player of the week carries over his 4 points. At the end of the year we tally the WOW’s and get a WOW of the year.
August 24th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Great runningbacks like and need to get the ball 20+ times a game, just not every game.
rather than giving one rb 15-18 carries and the other 8-12 each game;
Raiders need to: 1) give to the rb that’s in the zone that game, 2) give DMac 20-25 carries every 2 games, then cut his carries to 10 on his 3rd game and give the 20+ carries to Bush that game.
workhorse rbs need the football to get into their rythym, but to carry the ball over 300 times a season cuts into your production after a couple of seasons;
Raiders need to keep Mr. McFadden’s carries around 220 – 250 (last season 223) & Mr. Bush’s around 170 – 200 (158 last season); should the Raiders get some early big leads in more games I expect Michael’s carries to increase.
August 24th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
To answer an earlier question:
In his first action against them…Charles Woodson was schooled early and often by the hated Denver Donks and their pompous a**hole coach. They came after him time and time again, gobbling-up yardage as they did so.
And to answer an even earlier question (I read days ago) about Woodson: It wasn’t a TD by Moss burning him that was etched into peoples’ minds…it was a spectacular sideline catch by Moss, memorialized by a photo in SI of Moss grabbing a ball over the helpless (not hapless) CW24. Charles had him blanketed, much like DVD had Fitzgerald covered 2-wks ago.
Sometimes great receivers make great catches…no matter how good the coverage is. It says here that DVD has the same kind of coverage ability as CW24..and hopefully a great career to go with it (with no lapses of “interest” along the way).
August 24th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
RR
Let’s not forget Taiwan Jones. By all accords he’s also a can possibly take it all the way every time he touches the ball. Got to get him into the rotation too.
August 24th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Hagan absolutely should be on the roster, based on what we’ve seen these guys do up til now.
And…Big Ted — Hagan’s not really defending his use of video games…he brought up the subject himself, to explain how he was catching-on to the playbook so quickly, and performing so well in camp. His point was, he came to work, and it’s paying-off for him.
Love that kind of attitude…especially on a team that had suffered for a number of years while a few too many players were doing way too much playing, if you catch my drift. Give me the DHB and Hagan-like efforts to improve anytime…over the gifted, yet lazy efforts of a few of their predecessors.
This Raiders team has guys who love to put in the work, and it’s going to pay-off!
August 24th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
RR,
Very good points, although i’m not sure a coach is going to be willing to give his best offensive weapon 10 carries in a close game, no matter what his previous 2 or 3 workloads have been.
But a quick point I’d like to make about the number of carries mcfadden got last year. Mcfadden got 223 carries in only 12 games. that comes out to a pace of 297 if he played all 16 games. Not sure if that matters, but its something to think about.
I also think that the kind of carry/touch matters. Catching a pass, and getting tackled by a safety is different then running it up the gut and getting grinded up by d linemen and linebackers.
lastly, i agree that running backs need to get into a rhythm. But i think that is overrated when you’re talking about an explosive running back, as opposed to a power back.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Hey, Stevie Cork!!
How can Janikowski kick a ball that had the distance, yet fall a foot or so short??
Funny stuff!
August 25th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Tj, are you going to tally all the mups’ and post them, and who scores a most aggressive bloc, rather, who judges that. If I am doing my own scoring, I’m going into next week with 20+ points.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:14 am
Most big backs need more carries to get oiled up. But a back like TJ needs a few touches here and there and he’ll break one at least 20 yards this kid is as quick as he is fast. DMC is quick but he’s more explosive than quick. If he sees daylight he’s gone, while TJ is quick and elusive and once he sees daylight it’s goodnight.
They tossed him a pitch and that kid hit the sideline in a flash and was in the secondary before the defense had a chance to react. The kid is armed and extremely dangerous. “lethal weapon” that may be the nickname that best fits TJ.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Silver that’s cheatin’ man LOL
OK! I’ll do my best with the help of BigTed and some others hopefully but keep your own MUP’s points because you may have to defend them.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Raiders think they just need a back up “swing” LB.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:21 am
119.priesttj Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 12:17 am
Silver that’s cheatin’ man LOL
OK! I’ll do my best with the help of BigTed and some others hopefully but keep your own MUP’s points because you may have to defend them.
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Well now we gonna do what we gotta do to win you know. Just sayin…..
August 25th, 2011 at 12:27 am
TJ is like Nap Kaufman who would get maybe 10-12 touches and hit one every game he was soo freakin quick and his explosiveness just shocked defenses.
Just give DMC a blow here or there with TJ on a toss sweep and watch the defense misjudge his angles because the kid has wiggle they aint seen yet.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:29 am
I’d like to see them put #32 on TJ you know the next Marcus Allen in his honor.
August 25th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Priesttj:
That would be nice. Too bad Al and Allen had their falling out, I would have liked to see Marcus retire as a Raider. He was sure a class act. I hated to play KC and Marty after Allen left us, and they usually found a way to win, even when we had a two touchdown lead in the 4th quarter.
August 25th, 2011 at 1:01 am
I guess all you dudes have gone to bed and I’ll do the same. Good nite Raider fans. Three more days to Sunday.
August 25th, 2011 at 1:03 am
I would like to Jones have a more speed back # as well, 36 has more of a power back/fullbak feel to it like a Stephen Jackson.
32, 28, 23, 22, 20 are for rbs like McFadden & Jones;
unfortunately they are already taken, of course about 90 of them are…lol
August 25th, 2011 at 1:06 am
No decision Mr. Al Davis ever made, including drafting Mr. J. Russell, Mr. Marinovich, or Mr. Gallery, signing Mr. Larry Brown or Mr. Javon Walker, set the Raiders franchise back more than Al’s low ball treatment of Mr. Marcus Allen.
August 25th, 2011 at 1:12 am
OMG this guy is fast and has incredible feet… what a steal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYVJ82hmT8g … god yes TAIWAN!!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 1:13 am
Jones has such amazing balance
August 25th, 2011 at 1:14 am
He is so look at bouncing/rolling off tackles… has the same quality in that regard as chris johnson
August 25th, 2011 at 1:14 am
so GOOD
August 25th, 2011 at 1:15 am
not look
August 25th, 2011 at 1:17 am
This has to be the fastest offense in the history of the NFL… once Pryor starts, no question.
August 25th, 2011 at 1:18 am
Sorry for my quick ejaculations… I’m just giddy.
August 25th, 2011 at 1:18 am
verbally
August 25th, 2011 at 1:18 am
or verbal
August 25th, 2011 at 1:48 am
127.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 1:06 am
No decision Mr. Al Davis ever made, including drafting Mr. J. Russell, Mr. Marinovich, or Mr. Gallery, signing Mr. Larry Brown or Mr. Javon Walker, set the Raiders franchise back more than Al’s low ball treatment of Mr. Marcus Allen.
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It’s true about Allen and Snake left on bad terms too.
Maronovich seemed like a good fit at the time and Gallery was our best lineman last year though.
When people are determined to destroy themselves like Maronovich and Russell, there’s not a lot you can do about it.
August 25th, 2011 at 3:15 am
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August 25th, 2011 at 4:31 am
priesttj Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
We need to give TJ a suitable nickname. But I’m drawing blanks we have Run DMC and this kid is going to blow minds once he sees the field in the NFL at Denver he is going to blow minds.
“Typhoon Jones”
August 25th, 2011 at 5:15 am
I hope they are all MUP!
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Travis Goethel – LB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CarolinaRaider ; D. Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Travis Goethel – LB
MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Trent Edwards – QB
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Ryan ; Pryor – QB?
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
August 25th, 2011 at 5:19 am
Caint sleep!
August 25th, 2011 at 5:24 am
Talk about how fast Typoon is or how awesome our passing game is gonna be or how the real MUP is Al Davis
August 25th, 2011 at 5:24 am
the cupboard is bare if we want an OLB
Tully Banta-Cain
Jamar Williams
Tyjuan Hagler
Julian Peterson (33) clearly best days behind him
Keith Ellison – undersized
Zack Follett – bad neck injury
Jon Alston – a possibility , since he was here before (was with Bucs in 2010)
Tatupu – couldnt play weakside
are we really going to war with Sam Williams or Darryl Blackstock backing up Quentin Groves?
August 25th, 2011 at 5:24 am
Typhoon
August 25th, 2011 at 5:25 am
Al is waiting for that waiver wire hoping to snag some awesome linebackers
August 25th, 2011 at 5:40 am
I wonder how long DHB would last going over the middle like a slot back
August 25th, 2011 at 5:44 am
Good Morning Nation!
Taiwan Jones is Fast, huh? Really? Lol…
Jeremey Ware stepped up. Good for him! Now we neeed a bunch of others to do so! Always a good problem to have is having a hard time letting someone go justto trim down to 53…
August 25th, 2011 at 5:46 am
Boy will it be funny when 31 other teams scouts will be stuffing their foot in their mouths when they passed up on Taiwan and D.Moore to find out hoe good they will be.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:02 am
So with Boss and Myers out and Ausberry thinking he will play Sunday…Gordon and Brock (???) are the next guys up? Never seen those guys play. Are we in trouble there? Anyways…I hope Sterling Moore continues to see playing time, and seriously, I would like to see him make the final cut! As for the other corners, Ware sounds like he’s getting ahead of the pot…McFadden probably will be cut…Chekwa…??? Haven’t really seen him play yet.
So who stays in the backfield and who gets “axed”?
August 25th, 2011 at 6:07 am
I have said all along Wheezy McFadden is gonna get chopped. He cant even make plays against OUR WRs, what the hell makes anyone think he will make plays against better talent?
August 25th, 2011 at 6:08 am
At this point I think CBs will be CJ and Routt, Moore in the nickle with DVD in the dime and Ware the 5th man, and Huff and Branch at safeties, with brown mm24 and checkwa backing them up. If we opt for 4 safeties only then I think Checkwa hits the ps
August 25th, 2011 at 6:11 am
What the heck happened to my post???
August 25th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Correwct me if I am wrong, but didn’t McFadden look better last year?
August 25th, 2011 at 6:20 am
He looked ok in camp last year, but pretty terrible after the hammy tear
August 25th, 2011 at 6:22 am
I say we cut our losses with chaz and nmiller. Possibility New England picks up nick miller but cut them and come week, 3 sign TO. We need a big vet WR and TO is it. I kike the idea for trading for A.Curry but with what safe bet is to get Morrison for cheap.
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TheGeneral elevated to semi-pro status please!
August 25th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Good Morning Rockstar!
Morrison going to Buffalo, I guess that leaves Curry or Tatopu. You think Al will pull the trigger after the waiver wire?
August 25th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Hey fellas it is still to early to tell with McFadden. So far he does not look good to the naked eye, but it takes time for some DBs to develop. This is really his rookie year he did not get to many snaps last year and got hurt early. Don’t give up on him just yet, but he is running out of time. WIth Nnamdi gone and as well as he played it puts heat on all the Dbs to develop quickly.
No doubt we will feel some pain in the deep thirds of the field this year. Woodson coaching or not can’t change that this year.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:30 am
I dont think that the DB’s are the main issue, although it is an issue,that I believe that R.Woodson as a secondary coach will eventually payoff…man this LB situation is gonna be our achilles-heel on defense. There are still some decent names that are still available…Dhani Jones, Keith Bulluck, Chase Blackburn, Kawika Mitchell, Landon Johnson, and one time Raider Danny Clark, these have gotta be better than what I been witnessing so far…some of these guys can play the outside. Q.Groves is killin me!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Nicki Miller’s chances are reducing to none from slim with every big STs play D Moore makes.
And with Jones now returning punts along with J Ford, Nicki Miller is outta here.
DHB
Ford
Hagan
Moore
Murphy
Those 5 are locks, imo.
Chaz
Bodiford
Nicki Miller
Those 3 fight for the last spot, which isn’t even a fight in my mind. I think we all know Chaz will get that spot.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:33 am
My question is how does T Jones get on the field as a RB?
Is he going to take away a few of Bush’s 8 carries a game?
I think we need to trade Bush for an OLB.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:33 am
I always had confidence in Jeremy Ware over these other guys.
Thought he looked good at times last year. Certainly a helluva lot better than McFadden.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Mornin’ AM crew.
Glad to see Ware emerging. He flashed last year but also had some miserable showings…I watched the Steelers WRs take him out to the woodshed in person. He could be really really good if he keeps developing.
I don’t understand what Nnamdi ever saw in WMcFadden. He’s looked clueless from day 1. He might be better in zone, but as a man-to-man cover corner he’s pretty much helpless.
I think it’s time to cut bait on Chaz and roll with Ford, Moore, DHB, Hagan, Murphy and NMiller as wideouts. I keep NMiller around to return punts…if they only want to carry 5 WRs, then he can be waived easily enough.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:40 am
160.J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:33 am
My question is how does T Jones get on the field as a RB?
Is he going to take away a few of Bush’s 8 carries a game?
I think we need to trade Bush for an OLB.
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Tough situation with Bush…not sure Taiwan Jones could carry the load if (or, based on experience, when) DMac goes down this year. But at the same time, he could be a very valuable trade chip in filling a huge hole at OLB. Curious to see what Al comes up with.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Just kinda looked over other teams rosters. Not too many teams in need of Mike Bush. MAYBE Miami, but they don’t really have an OLB that we could use.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:51 am
J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Just kinda looked over other teams rosters. Not too many teams in need of Mike Bush. MAYBE Miami, but they don’t really have an OLB that we could use.
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Bush to Seattle makes some sense, but Curry is more of an SLB. Not sure if he’s a fit at WLB.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:56 am
Sign Kentwan Balmer. Decent depth for the dline
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Really, BCZ?
I thought this guy was AWFUL for SF?
August 25th, 2011 at 6:59 am
McClain sitting this one out again, and Sam Williams again running defense at MLB
-Paul Gutierrez
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PUKE!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Hey Dell Fantasy League members:
Look in the league’s comments section for a heads up on defensive players strategy.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Jacoby Ford joins Nick Miller and Denarius Moore in fielding punts
-Paul Gutierrez
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bye bye white webster!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:04 am
SeaPerch can hit these all day long in practice but put him in a game situation and he folds up like a lawn chair.
CLANK!
“Janikowski lined up for a 64-yard field-goal attempt at the end of practice, with the eyes of his teammates, coaches and friends fixed upon him. The kick sailed through the uprights, to the delight of fans and teammates”
August 25th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Maybe get Keith Rivers from the Bengals? Not a whole lot of options out there for the Raiders at WLB.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Taiwan Jones replaces Ford in fielding punts
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Jones, Ford & Moore on punt returns?
LOL!
you Nick Miller fans better get prepared. I’m about to shove your face in the dirt in 2 weeks when the 53 man roster is finalized
August 25th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Myers (ankle) heads to locker room; Kevin Brock is your new starting TE, with Boss and Ausberry out
-Vittorio Tafur
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Scary!
Kevin Brock = Brent Jones
August 25th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Hey, the Jags just released Slade Norris. There we go! Haha.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:21 am
This Saints game will be on NBC. Can’t wait for the whole country to get to watch this. No tight ends, no McClain, no one worth mentioning on the weakside, weak secondary. Ugh.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I know…I may only stay through the first on Sunday and get out…
August 25th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Chekwa getting a lot of work at safety for second straight day
-Vittorio Tafur
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FS Huff/Chewka
SS Brown/Mitchell
Branch = nickel corner
Walt McFadden, DVD, Ware & SMoore = not ready for the bigs
Hiram Eugene & Joe Porter = UFL next season!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Trade Bush? Man what is yall problem on this blog? Its sad when yall suggest bullschit like this. You lanning on taiwan to replace dmac in event of a injury? Stop!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Wait…so who’s our back up corners based on that list Rockstar?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Good Morning B@uce! Getting there at noon on Sunday?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Jhill you need your head examined with that trade Bush nonsense! Even if you are to trade Bush….why would it be for an OLB? that is completely stupid
August 25th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I’ll take a stab at the 53 man…
QBs
Campbell
Edwards
Boller
RBs
McFadden
Bush
Jones
Cartwright
Reece
TE
Boss
Myers
Ausberry
Gordon
WR
Ford
Moore
DHB
Murphy
Hagan
OL
Veldheer
Heyer
Satele
Carlisle
Barksdale
Wiz
Loper
Campbell
Barnes
DL
Houston
Seymour
Kelly
Shaughnessy
Scott
Bryant
Henderson
Moss
LBs
Groves
McClain
Wimbley
Williams
Blackstock
Someone still to be signed
CBs
Routt
CJ
Ware
DVD
Chekwa
McFadden
Safties
Huff
Branch
Mitchell
Brown
Special teamers
Seabass
Lechler
Condo
I have them carrying 5 WRs and giving both NMiller and Chaz the boot. Wouldn’t surprise me to see them keep one of those and ditch Walter McFadden though. He’s just been so so so bad.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:33 am
I thought this guy was AWFUL for SF?
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I was under the impression he had I dont wanna play here-itis. I wasnt asking for him to replace Sey or Kelly, just depth.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Lol if we trade Bush and dmac goes down for 3 weeks….you talking Taiwan Jones and Rock Cartwright as your RBs? Wow the amazing things I see on here hahahahahaha
August 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
As long as out front 7 can get to the qb then our secondary shouldnt be a problem ROUTT can hold his own he proved it last year as for everyone else we shall see
August 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Jhill & Thec were questionning Rolando McClain yesterday … welcome to the party, boys!
Can you see better with the blinders off?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
If they like Chekwa at safety, though, they may make him Huff’s backup, keep Sterling Moore as 5th/6th CB and release semi-pro favorite Stevie Brown.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Jhill & Thec were questionning Rolando McClain yesterday … welcome to the party, boys!
Can you see better with the blinders off
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I’ll be making my own “Rue the day” list for McClain.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:35 am
I wasnt asking for him to replace Sey or Kelly, just depth.
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BCZ,
would you take Balmer over John Henderson or Desmond Bryant?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:36 am
I think Sterling Moore may be the 3rd best corner we have (if you dont count our safeties playing cb)
August 25th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Hwnrdr…..Im unsure when Ill get there. Done monday night games but never a sunday nighter……let’s just hoppe B@uce doesnt go out Saturday so he is there at noonish or 1pm…..trying too bring this bottle of Clear Remy on thru…..when u headed up there?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Henderson is going to miss half the season with an ‘Im fat and my joints cant support me’ injury
August 25th, 2011 at 7:38 am
190.bcz24 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:36 am
I think Sterling Moore may be the 3rd best corner we have (if you dont count our safeties playing cb)
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What do you think…Chekwa as backup FS, goodbye Stevie, Moore as dime CB, maybe nickel if he keeps improving?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Stevie Brown not gettin cut PA…..i wont be surppprised is MM34 is out until midway point of season…..and Moore pprolly going PS
August 25th, 2011 at 7:39 am
194.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Stevie Brown not gettin cut PA…..i wont be surppprised is MM34 is out until midway point of season…..and Moore pprolly going PS
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That wouldn’t surprise me either. Also wouldn’t surprise me to see them only carry 3 tight ends and hope they can sneak Ausberry or Gordon through to the practice squad.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Half of John Hendu is better than all of Tommy Kelly
August 25th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Hard to say… we have a lot of guys in the secondary… someone is going to get cut who the fans and semi-pros wont like. I have to think its wheezy at this point. No one knows how bad MM34s injury is either which is very concerning.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:41 am
And Bcz….what too fat injury did he have? A fractured foot isnt a Im too fat injury…..yall need to lay off of our best ruun stuffer…..this is ridiculous….Seymour has missed games for damn sure!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Relax B… Im just breakin balls.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Gordon will be a PS….Boss Myers and Ausberry will be the 3 TEs
August 25th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Awww u got me again you loud mouth New Yorker!!!!!!!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:45 am
And obviously injuries have to be accounted for…
Murphy, MM34, Henderson, and McClain could all drastically affect the 53 man if they’re out for Week 1.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Bcz…..whats the word in Western NY? Bills fan excited? I got them to upset KC week 1…..no bs
August 25th, 2011 at 7:47 am
I truly believe they holding Hendu out rest of preseason and RoBeast will be there for Den game….Murphy and MM34 I doubt tho….as with Chaz
August 25th, 2011 at 7:49 am
So who gets cut….Edwards or Boller?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:51 am
As of right now, I gotta think Boller is the victim when Pryor gets activated. Edwards has been no great shakes, but Boller’s been flat out terrible.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Also Sunday….is real big for Stanford Routt….he hasnt been challnged yet and NO wrs pose a serious threat. We gonna find out about the 10 million dollar man soon enuff
August 25th, 2011 at 7:53 am
between Davis, Blackstock, Francis, Williams, Boyd,& Gbadyu who makes the final cut at LB?
[McClain, Wimbley, and Groves are locks]
assuming no other LBs are signed or traded for.
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Retribution,
We lost Thomas Howard, Ricky Brown & Travis Goethel.
Williams & Davis were on the 53 man roster last year along with those guys.
I’m guessing that between Blackstock, Francis, Boyd & Gbadyu … 2 will make it and 2 will not (unless we sign somebody else in free agency)
August 25th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Yeah Edwards may stick cuz Al always liked him……Pryor surely wont be PS lol….so when we activate him is it at WR or Qb?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:55 am
B@uce, we will get there no later than 12:30. Always try to get there by the opening of the parking lot, but something always happens…lol. I hope I don’t get wasted Saturday night either. You’re bringing a clear Henn? I know the regular Henn will be with us Sunday, and a sh*t load of beers…D Lot…usually about 8-10 rows in front of Oracle…
August 25th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Have to think Pryor enters as 3rd QB. He says he’s a QB, Hue has said he’s a QB. They have to be looking at him as Campbell’s replacement if he JC faceplants this year.
What’s nice is that with the rule change allowing 3rd QBs to enter and leave the game at will this year, Pryor as 3rd string will still be able to enter the game for some special packages.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:56 am
The Real Raider Ray is here…..whats shakin in the 702? Hear its like 110 degrees
August 25th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Word in western NY is not good. They think their D will be improved, but their O took a step big, primarily with the loss of Lee Evans. Freddie Jackson has also been on the local news of late on record saying he is very unhappy with the direction of the team.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Hwnrdr…..naw Clear Remy….only sold in Oakland and Houston as of now….smooth as fk and will sneak up on ya…….mayne u got the email….hit me and im sure Me or Bob willl roll thru…..Hell you aint far from 707Raiders where he tailgates….outta be cool
August 25th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Morrison signed with the Buffalo Bills on Wednesday afternoon.
The Raiders didn’t sign any linebackers Wednesday
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Congrats to Kirk Morrison. Good Luck until we face him again in Buffalo
I hope we add a linebacker or two, because I would NOT be satisfied with only McClain, Wimbley, Groves, Williams, Davis & Blackstock to complete that unit
August 25th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Damn yeah i know they lost evans but johnson aint too bad right?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Buffalo isn’t going to be very good again this year.
Their offensive line makes ours look like the 1993 Cowboys. Ryan Fitzpatrick isn’t even as good as Jason Campbell. Marcell Dareus was seen on crutches the other day. Not looking promising in West NY.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Johnson was good last year when teams still covered Lee Evans as the primary guy, later in the year his numbers tailed off when they rolled coverages to him. Besides they have NO ONE behind him.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Jerry Mac said on Twitter last night he’s skeptical they’d sign Tatupu…he guessed they’ll probably try to get through the pre-season with what they’ve got then watch the waiver wire when the big roster cuts come.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Marcell Dareus was seen on crutches the other day. Not looking promising in West NY.
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They reported today that Dareus was cleated in the calf, and that his injury isnt nearly as serious as many believed.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Bcz,
That’s good news for them. Dareus is going to be a beast.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:08 am
RRS…..we gotta sign Lofa
August 25th, 2011 at 8:09 am
B, it’s hotter than a mother out here…heard we breakin records for late August!!
I’d rather be out in Oakland this weekend…hows the weather out on your side of town?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:11 am
If Lofa hasn’t been signed by any team yet, that should throw up a big reg flag about his health.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:11 am
We’re in training camp, and you shouldn’t even be playing video games. You got to get your study time in. This is my job, this is my profession and it’s something I love to do. I try to stick what I do best and that’s playing football.”
Spend a few minutes with Hagan or watch him practice, and it’s hard to imagine him not making the roster. In fact, it begs the question, why did another team let him go?
He runs hard, executes precise routes, catches most everything and plays with a confidence missing in some of the younger receivers on the roster. Hagan, 26, is the second-oldest receiver on Oakland’s roster, second only to Shaun Bodiford. So, it’s likely that he will be the oldest on the team if he makes the 53-man roster.
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Hagan = 53 man roster inductee
Welcome to Oakland, baby!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Would Cincinnati take a 7th round pick for Thomas Howard, I wonder?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:13 am
I got 4-5 spots left on my FFL….anyone?
Name of league: S&W .357
(ID# 422139)
August 25th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Hagan says he learned his work ethic from the veteran receivers when he joined the Miami Dolphins in 2007.
“It’s just watching other receivers that I’ve been around in the league,” Hagan said. “When I started off as a rookie in Miami, I had Chris Chambers and Marty Booker, just following those guys. Now, they just passed it down to me and just knowing that you got to put in that time and that work just to be a great player. That’s something that I definitely try to do.”
The other Raiders receivers would do well to follow Hagan’s lead.
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vet WR’s? what a noble friggin concept?
who brought that up? RRS perhaps?
Chris Chambers was a name I threw out there 2 weeks ago and you guys were slammin’ on that idea hard.
Terrell Owens & T.J. Housh are available too.
Get one and don’t think twice!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I sure wish I had an Al Davis scholarship like Sam Williams
Put me in Coach Davis!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Shame if jerry report holds water…..groves is just awful
August 25th, 2011 at 8:17 am
I hope we add a linebacker or two, because I would NOT be satisfied with only McClain, Wimbley, Groves, Williams, Davis & Blackstock to complete that unit
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With you on this one. We need to do whatever it takes to upgrade that unit. Something similar to the Seymour trade.
Most of knew Trevor Scott would NEVER work as a starting DE. Most of us can realize that we have NO studs at LB despite all the $ invested in that unit.
Now you can hang on to your borderline retarded line of thinking and keep talking about Tommy Kelly and a RB that gets 6 carries a game if you want to. But I’m here to tell you loud and clear PPHHUUGGG Mike Bush and PHHHUUUGGG these SORRY ARSSE LBs we have. If DMac goes down, we’re PHHHUUGGGGEDDD anyway. Twinkle Toes Bush ain’t taking us NOWHERE.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Where’s pryor He needs to live at al Saunders house once he signs his contract.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:22 am
If Seattle really is so down on Aaron Curry, I’d send them Groves + a 2013 2nd rounder for him.
That kid can still be good. Really damn good.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Weather is solid in the Bay….bout to be Indian Summmer lol…..but heading to LA on labor day weekend….a good trip right before the season
August 25th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Ill take Aaron curry as weakside LB no doubt
August 25th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Our linebacking is a definite worry now. Hell…Even Ricky being back would be better than this…Julien or Bubbles too for that matter.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:25 am
TO not available for us….thanks
August 25th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Julian Peterson would be a worthy chance to take. Even a slightly broken down JP can’t be worse than Groves.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Even the Boz would be an improvement over Groves.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Groves gotta be replace….not much we can do about Wimbley as of now….to the drawing board on that one
August 25th, 2011 at 8:27 am
CanuckRaider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Even the Boz would be an improvement over Groves
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LMAO
And he doesn’t have Bo Jackson to worry about this time.
I have a friend who grew up a Seahawks fan…I troll him with that clip all the time.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:28 am
226.YoungAmerican Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:11 am
If Lofa hasn’t been signed by any team yet, that should throw up a big reg flag about his health.
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Or his demands
August 25th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Curry has played SLB his entire career. He could probably be more than adequate on the weakside, but then again I’m not a coach. The Raiders absolutely need to upgrade at WLB.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:28 am
SilverNBlack: That, and the run through the tunnel are classics. Forever etched in the minds of the Nation.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:29 am
I think a 2nd rounder would be a bit much for a guy seattle is moving on from anyways.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Chris Chambers was a name I threw out there 2 weeks ago and you guys were slammin’ on that idea hard.
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And will still smash that idea today and tomorrow.
Vet WR = Hagan.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Yeah, Hagan’s looked pretty good. Head on straight too. Just what we need with our young WR core.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:33 am
KC just lost a starting LB to an Achilles.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Potential trade targets:
Aaron Curry
Keith Rivers (he’s recovering from offseason wrist surgery – might start season on PUP so he won’t help immediately)
David Hawthorne
Leroy Hill
Three of the above are Seahawks.
Any other ideas?
The Raiders will probably wait for the waiver wire, but there aren’t going to be many potential starters coming that way.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Your a huge fan of Rb’s and you said we didn’t need DMAC!
Genius
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priesttj Says:
August 24th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
No I’m just a huge fan of RB’s
August 25th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I think its more likely that they bet all their chips on Groves. He was a mediocre starter last year and they did nothing to address it, so I doubt they will now.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Anyone know if raider game will be on tv?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders practice notes: Trevor Scott looking very good at D-end for being back just two days. HueJax loved how he blew up run play.
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I think this is the best news I’ve heard in a long time.
Trevor Scott at DE mean Wimbley will stay in at LB in nickle situations and rush the passer.
a BIG BYE BYE to that damn big dime defense we run!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:46 am
The game will be on Sunday night NFL on NBC.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Seems like Groves is still auditioning. He was still playing in the 3rd qtr of the last game.
Pretty sure Goethel would have played in front of Groves.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:51 am
For all you Slade Norris fans, he was cut today. Available. lmfao
August 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Groves might be the biggest weakness of our entire team.
What does he do well? Tweet bible scripture?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Slade Norris could probably beat Groves out imo
August 25th, 2011 at 9:04 am
I remember we made curry look like a all star his rookie year in preseason. Haven’t heard about him since. I would definately like to see him in silver and black!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:06 am
lets throw in francis at wlb fuc$ it!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Three huge injuries on D:
NT: Big Johns our only proven run stopper on DL and get’s heavy rotation can’t imagine he’ll play in many games this year
CJ: 6th in burn rate in the NFL solid on the outside and his replacement will be very raw, looked horrible coming off injury last year who knows when he’ll be back at full strength, doubt he plays opener
LB depth: Groves may be a weak link but if either of our starting LBs get injured we’re in serious trouble
August 25th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Sam Williams starting at MLB this weekend?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:09 am
If Sterling Moore isn’t 3rd CB, you can bet the Al Davis Scholarship Foundation is still in place.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Slade Norris…awesome take.
Maybe Sam Williams is a late bloomer. LMAO.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Ochocinco said he is going to pay Mason Foster the $20k he was fined for hitting 85. I love this guy, wish we would have signed him.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Trade Bait: WMcfadden, Ware, Chekwa, Branch, Mitchell, Groves, Scott, Schilens, Murphy, NMiller, Boller, Edwards?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
I think groves will be all right if we stick with him, he has houston and kelly in front of him. This is his 2nd year only playing olb in a 4-3 give him a fukkin break till week 4 at least. The reason hes playing so much in pre season is to get more reps so lets see if it pays off.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am
LA to TheBay Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:09 am
If Sterling Moore isn’t 3rd CB, you can bet the Al Davis Scholarship Foundation is still in place.
I wonder about the scholarship thing because I would think Al loves discovering talent in the first round (Nnamdi) just as much as he does UFDA’s (Kelly)
August 25th, 2011 at 9:24 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am
LA to TheBay Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:09 am
If Sterling Moore isn’t 3rd CB, you can bet the Al Davis Scholarship Foundation is still in place.
I wonder about the scholarship thing because I would think Al loves discovering talent in the first round (Nnamdi) just as much as he does UFDA’s (Kelly)
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I know what you mean, but I bet DVD starts over Sterling, being that DVD was a speedy draft reach.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Quentin Groves 2010 Stats:
TCKL SCK FF INT
39 0 0 1
Aarron Curry 2010:
GP Sck Tckl FF Int
16 3.5 58 2 0 0
Al, take a lesson from Rod Woodoson and Pull the Trigger!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:29 am
264.LA to TheBay Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:09 am
If Sterling Moore isn’t 3rd CB, you can bet the Al Davis Scholarship Foundation is still in place.
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But Al Davis drafted Moore too, right?
Why would he have any less love for him than say a Jeremy Ware or Walter McFadden?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Moore was a UDFA
August 25th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Jerome Boyd currently leads the team in tackles – I ‘d expect him to be a backup LB on the final 53.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:32 am
You guys and your A Curry….give it up….he’s not going to be a Raider. Keep Dreamin’
August 25th, 2011 at 9:33 am
DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
I think groves will be all right if we stick with him, he has houston and kelly in front of him. This is his 2nd year only playing olb in a 4-3 give him a fukkin break till week 4 at least. The reason hes playing so much in pre season is to get more reps so lets see if it pays off.
the natural thing is blame an individual for our run d but most everyones is to blame. Guys have mentioned it in here that our Dline is in the backfield looking for the big play instead of playing the run so the OGs and OTs can seal off our LBs for big gains. Gotta play the run better
August 25th, 2011 at 9:34 am
You have your Moores.all mixed.up…Moore Wr….Moore cb
August 25th, 2011 at 9:34 am
And I don’t think Moore had played better than DVD.
Certainly better than McFadden though.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am
The Sam Williams Scholarship is killing us! We shoulda’ replaced that guy last year!
Losing Goethel, R.Brown, and Howard has left a big hole!
Groves is one of the best LBs we have right now – especially with Romac injured.
Greg Biekert has nothing to work with here – Al needs to help him out!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am
drafted, signed, acquired, picked up = all done by Al Davis.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am
J Hill, Al Davis doesn’t draft anyone. Be careful. Such words reek of Davis actually being accountable for these players. No, no. What Davis does is that he gives these players opportunities to be great players. And if they don’t become great players, it’s their fault. Well, it’s the coach’s fault, for the first few years. Then it’s their fault. But it’s NEVER Al’s fault. Remember that. He’s not responsible for anyone he hires. He merely gave them opportunities! Everything beyond that is on them. And, they are the reason the Raiders have a horrible record in the last 8 years.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Groves is one of the best LBs we have right now – especially with Romac injured.
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That is a true statement.
And how sad is that??!!??
August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Why would cut Sam Williams when we are short on lbs instead of when we had Howard..Morrison…ECT…Sam Williams here to stay. I should have bought his jersey 8 yrs ago
August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Oh, but the Lions and the Bengals? They suck because of their management! They simply can’t draft the right players or hire the right coaches, because they’re lousy organizations. But not us, oh no. Al has given his employees opportunities to succeed, and they let him down. It’s different when it comes to us. Yeah.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
J, everything I’ve been reading in practice has Sterling Moore as the best CB (other than our two starters), then Ware, then DVD, then McFadden, with not enough on paper with Chekwa.
I watched the preseason games live, but don’t have them on DVR. You’re the film guy so if you say Sterling and DVD are equal, I guess I’ll have to take your word for it, but it sure seems like Moore is more NFL-ready and has been really doing battle with D Moore, who has been the best WR in camp.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 am
The thought of Huston in front of him is comforting.
The thought of Kelly in front of him only induces nausea and panic.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Did Real MaddenRaider get banned?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am
On the brightside, T.Scott looked good against the run at DE, and Blacksock had 5 solo tackles last week.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Most of us can realize that we have NO studs at LB despite all the $ invested in that unit.
Now you can hang on to your borderline retarded line of thinking and keep talking about Tommy Kelly and a RB that gets 6 carries a game if you want to.
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Jhill,
You want to trade Kelly & Bush for who?
Please do not say Aaron Curry in Seattle.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Udsrfo dfld, ei0t[hlx mclmxkpl,lk? U04t9e wfdjfidjfk mlfg fmfgkm! okdf okadfok eworedfe femdfemmdkm Al Davis kdadjfk dfomd ofdof odmfo mdof mmdfk mdwqei-3i45 kgl, Yeah.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:45 am
266.bcz24 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Ochocinco said he is going to pay Mason Foster the $20k he was fined for hitting 85. I love this guy, wish we would have signed him.
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Under the CBA, the NFL fine cannot exceed a percentage
of a player contract. If he makes the team, he will play for minimum so the fine is actually a little under $6,000.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:45 am
How many yards does Mark Ingram get on us Sunday?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 am
LA,
I wouldn’t go as far as to say DVD is better than Moore. Just based on the preseason games all we can say is Moore has played better than McFadden and Ware. DVD has gone up against the other teams #1 and looked pretty good outside of his tackling in run support. Moore has been going up against 2nd and 3rd teamers. The one play he made against the 9rs should have been a PI against him.
I feel pretty good about DVD, Moore, and Ware as our young CBs.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 am
MR – Al’s team always looks good on paper – That means he is doing his job as a GM.
You want him to go on the field, shed a block, and make a great tackle himself?
I bet he could!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am
PA,
Julian Peterson is 33 years old.
Was invisable for Detroit the past 2 seasons!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Sign Tattoopoo!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Jhill,
You want to trade Kelly & Bush for who?
Please do not say Aaron Curry in Seattle.
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I don’t want to trade Tommy Kelly.
I’d trade Bush for a starting OLB though. Would rather have Keith Rivers. I’d even go for Maulauga.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:49 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Curry has played SLB his entire career.
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That’s a poor use of talent on Seattle’s part then, because he was born to play the weakside.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:50 am
252.bcz24 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I think its more likely that they bet all their chips on Groves. He was a mediocre starter last year and they did nothing to address it, so I doubt they will now.
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I’m gonna guess you’re right at this point, but a semi-pro can dream
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
290.LA to TheBay Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Udsrfo dfld, ei0t[hlx mclmxkpl,lk? U04t9e wfdjfidjfk mlfg fmfgkm! okdf okadfok eworedfe femdfemmdkm Al Davis kdadjfk dfomd ofdof odmfo mdof mmdfk mdwqei-3i45 kgl, Yeah.
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Agreed!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
That’s a poor use of talent on Seattle’s part then, because he was born to play the weakside.
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Wake Forest’s then, too.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
The Linbacker and CB debate overshadows the fact that Murphy is becoming expendable.
609 yrds and 2 TDs in 2011 doesn’t exactly jump out as a “must keep”.
Ford-Must
Chaz-Scholarship
Moore-Camp and game time freak.
DHB-29 Millions reasons he stays.
If we go 5 wide, does Hagan bump Murphy?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:52 am
295.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am
PA,
Julian Peterson is 33 years old.
Was invisable for Detroit the past 2 seasons!
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Still better than Groves. At least he’s a natural linebacker & not a converted DE.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:53 am
301.YoungAmerican Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
That’s a poor use of talent on Seattle’s part then, because he was born to play the weakside.
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Wake Forest’s then, too.
++++++++++
Are you absolutely sure he played the strongside at Wake Forest?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Chaz-Scholarship
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Not sure Chaz is on a scholarship anymore. 3 straight seasons, 3 straight injuries causing him to miss significant time. I think his time has run out.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Here’s the deal, I’ve been thinking a lot about our LB’s. Does anyone know if Taylor Mays is still available from the 9er’s? We need to bring his ass here and stick him as a LB, probably on the weakside. He knows how to cover and he would be covering TE’s, he’s fast so he could blitz and he hits hard.
I think we are set at every position (including WR) but we need to do something about the LB’s because that’s our achillies heal right now.
Taylor Mays at LB, bring him in!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am
I didnt think Groves was that bad last year. Then again I like Thomas Howard as well.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Raiderjhawk,
Mays was traded to Cincinnati. And I’m glad of it, want no part of him here.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
raiderjhawk Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Here’s the deal, I’ve been thinking a lot about our LB’s. Does anyone know if Taylor Mays is still available from the 9er’s? We need to bring his ass here and stick him as a LB, probably on the weakside. He knows how to cover and he would be covering TE’s, he’s fast so he could blitz and he hits hard.
I think we are set at every position (including WR) but we need to do something about the LB’s because that’s our achillies heal right now.
Taylor Mays at LB, bring him in!
traded to Cincy
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Mays is one of the freakiest freak athletes to come out of college in the past several years and Al Davis wanted no part of him. Think about that.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
What does “scholarship” mean?
The way I see it, there are 53 scholarships handed out each year.
There is no way in hell Al Davis “scholarshiped” Justin Fargas over his top draft pick McFadden.
Is Tyvon Branch on scholarship over MM34?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Mcclain is a beast and will break out like a bad mofo this year, who ever is sain that we don’t have a single good lb is stupid. Lets watch our 1st unit play a whole game before talkin $hit.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:59 am
If we go 5 wide, does Hagan bump Murphy?
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NOPE!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
We need a 250lb plus guy playing OLB for us.
Not a DB!!!!
Mike Mitchell, Jerome Boyd, and any other DB would be a terrible option for us at LB. Would get road graded in the run game on a lot more plays.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Scholarship= superfulous.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Vet WR = Hagan.
Yeah, Hagan’s looked pretty good. Head on straight too. Just what we need with our young WR core.
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Jhill & Canuck,
Glad to see you guys so willing to dump Nick Miller (white webster) off a cliff to bring in a productive receiver
August 25th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Mind you, healthy Chaz flashes.
Murphy, nice guy, calls his mamma once a day.
No anamosity towards either.
But starting either Murphy or Chaz over Ford and Moore (if his productions keeps on its current trajectory) would be weak sauce.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:04 am
# DEATHROW 55 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Mcclain is a beast and will break out like a bad mofo this year, who ever is sain that we don’t have a single good lb is stupid. Lets watch our 1st unit play a whole game before talkin $hit.
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I agree, also, it make take some time to get on the same page with Beikert and the new DC.
I have hopes that an athlete with Romac’s work ethic will be able to improve upon his Rookie Performance.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Mays went to Cincy last week I believe.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:06 am
All we heard about McClain was how he hit the film room and was going to be GREAT. Not good, but GREAT!
He said was thinking too much last year and the extra film study would help him know what the play was before the snap and help him play much faster.
Haven’t seen one sign of him recognizing the play early and attacking it. He just doesn’t get moving out of his stance early enough for me, YET. That half a second he is taking to diagnos the play is letting the other teams OL to get on him. If he could react just a tad faster, he would have a better angle on these guys to get to the hole.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Ingram is nursing an injury, might not play much Sunday
August 25th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Are you absolutely sure he played the strongside at Wake Forest?
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At least according to this he did:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/516519
August 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Groves might be the biggest weakness of our entire team.
What does he do well? Tweet bible scripture?
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It’s a toss up between Groves and C.Johnson for biggest weakness. (on defense anyways)
August 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Nicki Miller was one of the top 6 WRs last year, and the year before.
This year, not a chance.
I’d take Bodiford over Miller.
Would also keep the UDFA McGhee over Nicki.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Maybe Sam Williams is a late bloomer?
***
LOL @ Lowdown_in_Beijing!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:10 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Trade Bait: WMcfadden, Ware, Chekwa, Branch, Mitchell, Groves, Scott, Schilens, Murphy, NMiller, Boller, Edwards?
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Not sure who wants any part of that scrap heap lol
August 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Sam Williams is here to stay. I should have bought his jersey 8 yrs ago
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LOL @ SharkCatcher!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Murph is going into his third year, give him a chance! He has performed quite well for us considering where he was drafted, his salary, and QBs. He has been our most productive WR since the day he got here – he can get open, he is a speed burner, and also a good blocker. He just need to improve his catch/drop ratio.
Trade him if anything! You don’t think another team would be interested?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Trade Walter Mcfadden for another Darren Mcfadden
August 25th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Keep Murph!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Scott and Bush are the only somewhat expendable players who would have any trade value at all.
Murphy MIGHT get a low-round pick. Kelly’s contract is absolutely untradeable, and there’s very little depth behind him.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Mr. Pryor, although he can practice and play during the preseason, is not eligible to practice or play until after the 5th game.
Raiders have their bye on the 8th week , that gives them 4 weeks of practice if they wait until the 2nd half of the season to insert him into games.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Murph has been WAAAAAYYY better than DHB, and WAAAAAYYYY cheaper!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Cut Sam Williams!
I’d rather see Gbadyu than that guy!
Thanks for the special teams Sam, but we need a LB who can play Defense!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am
TK is only making about 6 million a year over the next 3 years. That’s a frickin bargain. FAR from untradeable.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Want Murphy to put up 80 catches for 1000 yards, that’s what I want.
In order to do so, he needs to beat out his competition (Ford, Moore, DHB) in camp and preseason.
IMHO, however.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I’d take Bodiford over Miller.
Would also keep the UDFA McGhee over Nicki.
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DANG!
what about Chad Jackson or Damola Adeniji ???
August 25th, 2011 at 10:22 am
In that vain, in years past, Murphy in a coma looked better than DHB.
DHB is flashing.
Like I said, I like Murphy, he drives a Chrysler.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:22 am
what the hell is wrong with Murph anyways? Has he taken a snap yet?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Here’s a great article on Curry, how he’s been a disappointment so far, what he does well and what he needs to do to improve:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6696370
The upside on this kid is still crazy. I think a cerebral linebacker coach like Biekert could be just what he needs
Man, the season needs to start. Look at us semi-pros, wasting time dissecting a kid who’ll never put on silver and black.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am
J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am
TK is only making about 6 million a year over the next 3 years. That’s a frickin bargain. FAR from untradeable.
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I don’t see any team trading anything of value for a 30-year-old UT who has really only had a couple good seasons, who also happens to be making $6 million for the next three years. He’s making Barry Cofield money.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I’d take Bodiford over Miller.
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Agreed, with Jonesy and Ford back – no need to keep N.Miller – let him go to the Bungles!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Man, the season needs to start. Look at us semi-pros, wasting time dissecting a kid who’ll never put on silver and black.
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Al will deal our 2013 1st rounder. Bet.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Lets not over react to romacs game last week. he made some tackles and forced the ball at times. i thought he was much quicker to the ball and seemed to do a good job of directing traffic.
The defense seemed a bit off balance in the first niner drive. D linem men and lbs over pursued in the run game and the secondary was a step late in pass coverage. However they stiffened in the red zone. On the next possession they had a take away.
The raiders intercepted smith with a fire zone,( so much for the idea that davis calls the defense), the perfect defense against what the niners tried to do on that play. Romac as the leader on the field has the ability to check out of a defensive play if he sees that they are in a bad situation. He made certain they were in the correct alignment and diagnosed what was coming pre snap, it was perfect.
The raiders defense caved in once the starters left, the first team defense didnt give up a score, and collected 2 turnovers.
This is not the same old defense ,and romac must adjust to the new wrinkles along with the rest of his teammates.
Give it some time, we will be fine.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
# bcz24 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:22 am
what the hell is wrong with Murph anyways? Has he taken a snap yet?
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Dude strained his groin. He’ll be fine!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:56 am
I am the Real Raider Ray in here…..whats shakin in the 702? Hear its like 110 degrees
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Cut Sam Williams!
I’d rather see Gbadyu than that guy!
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tsk tsk, Ted.
you’re becoming ever so close to having your semi-pro status revoked.
Sam Williams has been the face of the franchise since we drafted him in 2003.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
I’m sure glad NONE of you are our GM or have any say over the roster.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
# bcz24 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:22 am
what the hell is wrong with Murph anyways? Has he taken a snap yet?
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Dude strained his groin. He’ll be fine!
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“Groin.” Suuuuuuuure. Viagra OD?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
# HairyBush Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Trade Darren Mcfadden for another Walter Mcfadden
August 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
WRs:
Locks: Ford, Heyward-Bey, & Moore
99% probability to make the 53-man roster: Hagan
80-90%: Murphy
50-75%: Chaz & Nick
less than 50%: Jackson, McGee, & Goulet
August 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Scott and a 2013 2nd rounder for Curry? Bush and a 2013 4th rounder for Curry?
Scott for Leroy Hill and a 5th rounder?
All highly unlikely. But the Raiders sure do need help at WLB.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
I’m sure glad all of you are our GM’S and have a say over the roster
August 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
no need to keep N.Miller – let him go to the Bungles!
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Ted redeemed himself!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
80-90%: Murphy
50-75%: Chaz & Nick
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Really? Murphy not 100%. I would put Chaz at 90-100 and Nick at <80
August 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
with Mr. Eugene being out for the season, Raiders may need to keep Mr. S. Williams for special teams;
remember Mr. Murphy is already out for game 1 vs. Denver.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Mr. Bush is more valuable than Mr. Scott.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am
DHB, Ford, Moore, Chaz, Murphy, Hagan
If Chaz is going to be out for more than a few weeks, who knows… he could be the roster spot Pryor eventually takes.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am
saw an interesting segment last evening involving Mangenius explaining evaluations during preseason games.
He said game three was the time when actual game-planning goes into the fray.
He said that schemes are drilled during camp but this the first eval opportunity for coaches to see how players are able to translate an actual game plan when the schemes are tweaked to battle an opponent’s strengths and weaknesses (as oppsed to the everyday practicing against your own players).
He said it can be surprising that players who looked so smooth and good with the overall schemes in camp can look totally lost when they need to institute the wrinkles of a game plan.
And he also said that there are players who didn’t seem to be all that excellent in camp but would be able to follow the game plan fluidly.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:32 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Mr. Bush is more valuable than Mr. Scott.
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Agreed.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:32 am
What happened to the Ausberry bandwagon?
That guy sucked last week, and we had guys on here proclaiming him “lock” status!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:32 am
343.LA to TheBay Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Man, the season needs to start. Look at us semi-pros, wasting time dissecting a kid who’ll never put on silver and black.
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Al will deal our 2013 1st rounder. Bet.
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Much as I’d like Curry, he got *Richard Seymour* for a 1st rounder 2 drafts away. If he paid the same price for Aaron Curry I’d be ticked.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ausberry is a lock.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
# YoungAmerican Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am
DHB, Ford, Moore, Chaz, Murphy, Hagan
If Chaz is going to be out for more than a few weeks, who knows… he could be the roster spot Pryor eventually takes.
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YUP! Even Bodiford is showing good hands. McGee to PS!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Ausberry dropped one pass.
He’s already made the 53 man roster.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
# YoungAmerican Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ausberry is a lock.
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He won’t even be playing this week.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
365.J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Ausberry dropped one pass.
He’s already made the 53 man roster.
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Give the track record of our receivers the past few yeras, wouldn’t he have to drop more than one to fit in and assure himself a spot?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am
new post
August 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Ausberry dropped one pass.
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It was a critical first down, and it Bounced off his hands! And I thought he was supposed to be a WR! Can’t block, can’t protect, can’t catch – Oh but he’s fast so he’s a lock.
At least Gordon can block! If Ausberry doesn’t play this week, put him on the PS!
August 25th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Prophecy-
The LB position vacated by Goethel can be filled be a cut from another NFL team deep at LB. Do not worry over acquiring Tatupu.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am
“The Nick Miller experiment should end. He is the Jonnie Lee Higgins of 2011. We need the roster spot for a contributor like Derek Hagan, #80.”
August 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Obviously.
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