QB Terrelle Pryor with the Raiders, set to sign 4-year contract
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, August 25th, 2011 at 6:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Terrelle Pryor has joined the Raiders and is expected to sign a four-year contract before night’s end, as expected. Once he does so, he would be eligible to practice Friday in Napa.
The Raiders selected Pryor on Monday in the third round of the supplemental draft. That means the Raiders forfeit their third-round pick in the 2012 NFL draft. They already were without their 2012 second-rounder as part of a trade with the New England Patriots in April, as well as their 2012 fourth-rounder because of the 2010 trade for quarterback Jason Campbell.
Raiders senior executive John Herrera said the Raiders are confident that the Raiders will recoup some of those picks because of the loss of cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, guard Robert Gallery and tight end Zach Miller, among others, through free agency. Compensatory picks are awarded based on a net loss of free agents.
As for Pryor, Herrera said: “Terrelle is in town, and we do expect he will sign a contract later tonight.”
Pryor is facing a five-game suspension for his role in one or more violations that occured at Ohio State when he was their quarterback.
However, he is allowed to practice and participate in Oakland’s final two exhibition games before the suspension takes effect. Pryor’s agen, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN that Pryor won’t appeal his suspension.
The Raiders are off today and don’t practice again until Friday. It remains to be seen whether Pryor will take part in the practice or be made available to the media.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson said Wednesday that Pryor will be accessible as soon as possible.
“He’ll be here soon, and we’ll get him going,” Jackson said. “We’re not hiding him, I guarantee you that. He’s ours. There’s some protocol we have to follow to make sure that we do everything the right way before we get him here.”
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August 25th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
And apparently, he’s wearing #6 — Marc Wilson’s old number.
Hope he has a better career.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
I don’t know where I stand on my Terrell Pryor expectations.
I know he will get a chance to start at some time, that’s for sure. I am also sure it is playoffs or bust for our buddy Soup this season.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
449.J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Good to see my man Jeremy Ware getting some run yesterday.
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I thought I was the only guy on his team???!!!???
I coulda swore I was trying to tell you how he only got beat on one play against Pitts, and I didn’t understand why we didn’t see any more of him the rest of the season.
Anyway, I do agree that he is much more physical and aggressive than McFadden and has been since last preseason. I even thought they might move him to S this year. Him or Chekwa was my choice for that.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Yeah…Just got my tickets to the Jets, KC, and Detroit home games… I will also attend the home game here in SD…..Yeeessssss….
August 25th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
I don’t know where I stand on my Terrell Pryor expectations.
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If you’re truly objective, they should be somewhere around your Tim Tebow expectations.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
If you’re truly objective, they should be somewhere around your Tim Tebow expectations.
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lol…seems fair to me…
August 25th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I wonder why he’s not wearing his college number?
August 25th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I wasn’t that far off on my earlier post, was I ??
August 25th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
370.Mum-O-killowe Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Hey, the Raiders owner is on t.v. right now! Mike Shannahan!
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Why do you say Mike Shanahan is the Raiderz owner?
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Hey MR, did you ever frequent a raiders newsgroup (alt.sports.profootball.oak/raiders) something like that about six some odd years ago under the name “Skeptic”?
I bet that was you. I am almost sure of it. I’ll even put money on it.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
All I know is next season is going to be awful. Campbell probably won’t be resigned so Boller is going to lead the offense while Pryor is in the incubator preparing for 2013.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Thec yes! its been a long time since Palma Ceia….hope to see ya again big bruh
August 25th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Thec yes! its been a long time since Palma Ceia….hope to see ya again big bruh
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Yep…Should be a blast…Looking forward to enjoying the NATION…
August 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Speaking of Tom Cable, anyone catch dude on the sidelines in his last game?
Guy has a gold chain hanging out, a rock in his ear (never seen a coach with an earring), a pinky ring, and XXXXL shirt untucked hanging below his kneecaps.
My man is taking it to a whole new level.
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LOL!!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Jhill u know better….ask bigted707….ware was my first MUP choice
August 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
If you’re truly objective, they should be somewhere around your Tim Tebow expectations.
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I never saw Pryor throw for 450 yards in a college game though.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Pryor didn’t want JaMeatballs number huh, imagine that
lol
August 25th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
“Terrelle is in town, and we do expect he will sign a contract later tonight,” senior executive John Herrera told beat writer Jerry McDonald.
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yeah that figures hererra is as senile as Al to go and get terelle owens. that is NOT what this team needs right now. total bulloneiash1t.
just say no to T.O. why do we want t.owens. i dont get it.
CODIZZLE BLACKIZZLE YIZZLE
August 25th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
7.supapimp Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I wonder why he’s not wearing his college number?
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its not that hes not wearing his college # my good man, he aint wearin #2 because of the stigma it has in oakville. just let hang and do bang, if you get my rift.
FIZZLE ON THE PIZZLE AND SLURPIN THE DRIZZLE WUT WUT
August 25th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
I’ve read some posts about the rookies and high expectations.
I think its wait and see with all these guys with the exception of the wide receiver Moore.
He’s truly lighting things up on the field and in practice.
The rest of the guys have promise…but let’s remember…Johnnie Lee Higgins looked like a playmaker for a brief second.
Pryor, Taiwan Jones, DVD, Ausberry…those guys have to do it on the field and with consistency before we crown them. The skill guys on the list are certainly not slam dunks…if they were they would have been 1st and 2nd rounders.
Don’t get me wrong, they apparently have the physical tools. But there are also some deficits in their game that have to be overcome as well.
Just don’t hype them up as second coming yet…be patient with them and let them develop.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I will say, I would MUCH rather have Pryor in the 3rd round on a 3rd rounders contract, than Cam at the #1 overall contract.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Priesttj is already at Canton trying to figure out where Pryor and Taiwan Jones’ busts will be.
Priesttj, let’s see those guys play a game or two first….
August 25th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
If Campbell was so worried about looking over his shoulder at grads or whatever, what is he looking at now? Edwards is a lot better that grads and Pryor may jump in sooner than we think. What is out track record or timetable for bringing rookie QBs’ along. Somewhat of a mystery right now.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
BTW,
Michael Bush will be a significant contributor this year.
If the Raiders are smart, they find away to leverage DMAC and Bush long-term. Will keep the wear and tear down.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Too late to change my MUP pick now that Goethel is out?
If not I’ll take Scott, if he doesn’t count than I’ll take Ausberry.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Slimey 0 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
What is our track record or timetable for bringing rookie QBs’ along?
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Doesn’t really matter. The last rookie QB during the regular season in these parts was JaWalrus, and that was with a totally different coaching staff. What Lane Kiffin and Greg Knapp did with #2 has no relevance on how Hue Jackson and Al Saunders are going to treat Pryor.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
tj has to cream his jeans on every player we draft that way he can say seeeeeee I told you so if they pan out. Of course the 1 player he rejects is Darren McFadden.
lmao
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SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Priesttj is already at Canton trying to figure out where Pryor and Taiwan Jones’ busts will be.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
I hope the Jackson/Saunders and Pryor connection is for the long haul. It will only make Pryor that much better.
August 25th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Slimey 0 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
I hope the Jackson/Saunders and Pryor connection is for the long haul. It will only make Pryor that much better.
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True that. Coach Davis better not meddle.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Id gave to go out on a limb and say I trust Pryor’s Arm then his hands.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
23.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
“Michael Bush will be a significant contributor this year.
If the Raiders are smart, they find away to leverage DMAC and Bush long-term. Will keep the wear and tear down.”
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I’m so with u on this. DMac was our MVP last year and Bush is such a beast himself its kinda strange even calling him a #2 RB (a freakin steal in the draft too!). We seriously have one of the best RB tandems in the league! The only other uniforms i ever want to see these 2 guys playing in are Pro Bowl uniforms.
Also, i can’t wait to see T.Jones gettin busy Sunday nite! I have a feeling he’s gonna have a good game. I’ll be out there with my #20 on, makin’ much noise in the stands. Go RAIDERS!!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Based on his college career.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I hope we have power Sunday night, so I can see the game. Last time we took a direct hit from a hurricane, we lost power for four days.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
It seems like Hagan will be the vet WR many of us have been looking to add to the WR corps to teach the young guns some professionalism on and off the field. Strictly business, No Xbox. Good pick up
August 25th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
How long until Jim Tressel is a Speacial Consultant for the Oakland Raiders? My guess is 2012 cuz Campbell will be a FA and Pryor will be penciled in as his replacement.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
In pryor we trust
August 25th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Man Im tellin you nerds and bros theyre aint nothin much finer than my asian male model man chunk, if you can dig what Im sayin. We be hangin and bangin, if you get my rifft. Think I’ll ask him to come and ‘rub one out’ with me. Yup Yup
I CAN SLOP TIL IT DROPS WUT WUT
August 25th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Raider J, I like Hagan too. I hope he stays.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
I’m actually feeling pretty good about this team’s direction for the first time in along time. We’ve got the talent on O. Odds are in our favor for Pryor being good, we’ve picked a lot that haven’t. It’s about time we had a young dude come in a tear it up.
I also have no problem w/ Hagan being being our vet WR, this dudes got a chip on his shoulder and those dudes I want on my team, every time! Sorry Nick we’ve got enough small fast guys on the team.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I’m already assuming that Taiwan Jones is a player. That means that we will without doubt have the best RB trio in the NFL. Each of our RB’s has the ability to take it to the house at any given time. That has to be a real nightmare for opposing DC’s to prepare for. They don’t know who they are going to see and in what order. If we are smart, we should mix it up from game to game. By doing that all of our RB’s can remain fresh. If one of them needs a breather, he can take the night off without us missing a stroke.
Now all we need to do is solidify our O-Line with the right people. BTW, the right people do NOT include Loper, Carlisle or Barnes. Satele is marginal at best. He’ll do for now until Wiz 2.0 catches up and takes the center position from him. I’d like to see Veldheer, Heyer, Satele, Bcampbell & Barksdale.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Our Boy. Check out this waste of waste:
Lettermen In The News:
JaMarcus Russell Going Back to School
[Update: LSU SID Michael Bonnette said on Thursday (Aug. 25) that Russell did not in fact enroll for the fall semester.]
Former LSU star JaMarcus Russell plans to return to school this fall, Michael Bonnette, the school’s sports information director, tweeted last week.
Bonnette said that Russell was at LSU’s football practice recently and provided the information himself. Bonnette told Lost Lettermen that Russell has already moved back to Baton Rouge and is close to acquiring his degree after leaving early for the NFL draft.
Russell was the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft and started for the Oakland Raiders for two seasons before eventually losing his job to Bruce Gradkowski in 2009. Russell was arrested last summer for having “Purple Drank” and spent all of last fall out football.
With his 26th birthday on Tuesday, it appears more and more likely we will never see Russell throw a football again. JaMarcus Russell profile
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Notice the disclaimer at the top.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Now all we need to do is solidify our O-Line with the right people. BTW, the right people do NOT include Loper, Carlisle or Barnes.
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ROFLMAO…
August 25th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Sign Tattoo!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
TATUPU TATUPU TATUPU
August 25th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Get healthy RoMac! I don’t want to see Sam Williams out there!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
What’s Romacs ailment?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
All that speed doesn’t help much inside the 10 – Who’s gonna’ sink it in from the 2 yard line?
I nominate Bush, or Cartwright, and put B. Camp out there as the lead blocker!
August 25th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
# JB Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
What’s Romacs ailment?
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Hue ain’t sayin’, but he missed practice yesterday.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
The best case senerio for our franchise is if Pryor isn’t our full time starter until 2013. That means Campbell is solid (& healthy) this year and next. With solid QB play, we are in the mix come January. Campbell isn’t enough to get us to the promised land but can help us build a quality team for the next couple years. Pryor can master his craft behind a consummate (yet not elite) pro in Campbell & be mature/hungry/polished enough to lead us back to the top of the league’s elite franchises. Now tell me that don’t sound mmm mmm good.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
All that speed doesn’t help much inside the 10 – Who’s gonna’ sink it in from the 2 yard line?
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Elephant formation (right side) Satele, BCampbell Barksdale & Barnes – Off tackle by Bush preceded by Wiz 2.0 in the FB position. That ought to move some beef.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
BigTed-do you forget how good McFadden is around the goal line?I’d much rather see him trying to punch it in inside the 5 than Bush.Bush just doesn’t move the pile while McFadden seems to somehow find the slightest hole.I like Bush,but i want McFadden near the goal.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
# JB Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
What’s Romacs ailment?
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Hue ain’t sayin’, but he missed practice yesterday.
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I wonder if his feelings are hurt because a lot of us have been ragging on his a$$ about not getting it done?
August 25th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I nominate Bush, or Cartwright, and put B. Camp out there as the lead blocker!
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I would rather go w/ Houston as our Jumbo package FB. If BC takes care of business, he’ll be on the line pushing back the opponents dline.
August 25th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Boss is hurt, as well as Meyers and Ausberry.
I predict we will see a heavy dose of the Run on Sunday. Hue saying he might keep DMac “in cellophane” – we can expect plenty of time for Bush and Jonesy!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
A lot of these guys that are nicked and are being held out of practice would be playing if it were the regular season.At least that is the feeling I get.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
# lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
BigTed-do you forget how good McFadden is around the goal line?I’d much rather see him trying to punch it in inside the 5 than Bush.Bush just doesn’t move the pile while McFadden seems to somehow find the slightest hole.I like Bush,but i want McFadden near the goal.
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Do It!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
BigTed-i doubt it.Probably plenty of Cartright,Bennett, and Rankin.Why risk injury to our main guys?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
As long as it’s 7 every time I could care less whether it’s DMac, Bush, Jones, Reece or Soup.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
I would rather go w/ Houston as our Jumbo package FB. If BC takes care of business, he’ll be on the line pushing back the opponents dline.
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Word – I’m just still pissed how weak that play to Reece looked inside the 5.
No way should a FB lose yardage on the goal-line like that – Shame on Hue!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
# lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
BigTed-i doubt it.Probably plenty of Cartright,Bennett, and Rankin.Why risk injury to our main guys?
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I’m talking first half. I thought they were supposed to take the 3rd week in presea somewhat seriously.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Word – I’m just still pissed how weak that play to Reece looked inside the 5.
No way should a FB lose yardage on the goal-line like that – Shame on Hue!
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Agreed. But Reece isn’t a true FB. He doesn’t really have a true position. Body of a FB, hands of a wide out, speed of a HB, & blocking of an assistant coach. However, I think Big Wiz would do a better job of that, lol. I love him though cause he’s a matchup nightmare.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
I want to see D.Moore in the end-zone!
All the hype this kid is getting has me anxious to see him Bust a Big One!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
BT-I’d like to see someone in the end zone-I don’t really care who.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Agreed. But Reece isn’t a true FB. He doesn’t really have a true position. Body of a FB, hands of a wide out, speed of a HB, & blocking of an assistant coach. However, I think Big Wiz would do a better job of that, lol. I love him though cause he’s a matchup nightmare.
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Reece is a Beast – in certain situations – But whatever and goal from the 2 isn’t one of them.
I wonder how the raiders are gonna’ do in the short yardage game this year. I know we got all the speed in the world, but do we have the Bulls?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice to see a category 5 storm (the new Raider Offense) hit the NO team when they meet the S&B at the O this Sunday. A big blow out is good as long as you are not the blowee.
I think we koolaide drinkers all need some reinforcement and this Sunday would be ideal.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
# lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
BT-I’d like to see someone in the end zone-I don’t really care who.
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F’sho – It WILL happen Brother!
This is only Pre week 3!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
I wonder how the raiders are gonna’ do in the short yardage game this year. I know we got all the speed in the world, but do we have the Bulls?
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The bulls are up front. If they do their jobs it doesn’t matter who gets the ball.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
TDESPN Trent Dilfer
#filmstudy Raiders need improved drop back passing game concepts and calls if they are going to be better. Can’t rely on run & PA pass only
This fool always acts like he knows everything
August 25th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
We always are productive in short yardage when we get to run plays.The problem is whenever we get in short yardage one of our genus olinemen commits a false start or some other stupid foul.Gallery,Barnes,Walker-the list goes on.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
The bulls are up front. If they do their jobs it doesn’t matter who gets the ball.
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I hear it Teach! I’m just wishing we had a real FB – It wouldn’t hurt the running game thats already in place, it would only enhance it!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Trent Dilfer vs. Al Saunders.
I think I’ll go with Al Saunders.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Dilf couldn’t beat out Alex Smith! ’nuff said.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Hue Jack and Al Saunders will show him a few things fo sho
August 25th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Bid Ted,
No doubt. I do miss watching Jon Ritchie smash people.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
well guys, we are probably gonna be short one jason campbell in the saints game.. so we wont officially get to see our true #1s in offense.. im gonna guess edwards will start with boller coming in after the half.
might be a blessing in disquise tho that alot of our starters are “nicked” right now so they will be fresh going into the season..
August 25th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Ha. BiG Ted, sorry man.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Dilf couldn’t beat out Alex Smith! ’nuff said.
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Lmao!!! Can’t get no better than that!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
# edward teach Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Bid Ted,
No doubt. I do miss watching Jon Ritchie smash people.
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Bleeding from the face!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Ritchie, now that was a true Raider!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
J-Raider,
Where did you hear that J-Camp was out on Sunday?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
over/under on games jason campbell misses due to injury this season(stingers).. ill say 4
August 25th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Has Soup been ruled out for the game this Sunday?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
J-Camp was practicing yesterday…today was a day off.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
79.BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
J-Raider,
Where did you hear that J-Camp was out on Sunday?
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any reports on him practicing this week?
August 25th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
He said it wasn’t a stinger – just got his bell rung. If he passes his base tests I’d expect to see him in there.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
# J-Raider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
79.BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
J-Raider,
Where did you hear that J-Camp was out on Sunday?
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any reports on him practicing this week?
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He was back in there yesterday Mayne!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
i just dont see hue-jack playing his best qb after a concusion, and only getting two days of practice..
August 25th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
# J-Raider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
over/under on games jason campbell misses due to injury this season(stingers).. ill say 4
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I’ll take the under. J-Camp is the best QB we’ve had here in awhile. both in stats, and in the win/loss column. I wish him the best of luck out there!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
saturday isnt an actual practice just a walk-thru of all they did during the week.. campbell missed first two practices and only gets wednesday and friday of full practice.. i bet you we see the battle of the back-up in sundays game..
August 25th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
50.lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
BigTed-do you forget how good McFadden is around the goal line?I’d much rather see him trying to punch it in inside the 5 than Bush.Bush just doesn’t move the pile while McFadden seems to somehow find the slightest hole.I like Bush,but i want McFadden near the goal.
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ive been sayin this for awhile. dmc is a much better short yardage runner than given credit for. he runs much more aggressively than bush. he is a td maker but its up to hue to allow him to get the chances to do it.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
# J-Raider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
i just dont see hue-jack playing his best qb after a concusion, and only getting two days of practice..
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I hope he plays the first half, but hands it off a lot.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
JC needs all the work he can get.I too wish him all the luck but I don’t know if I can agree with the rest of your assessment.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Hey Giants fans –
Is it true that AT&T park can be converted into a football field?
If so, Why don’t the ‘9ers play there?
I know, who cares, but it seems like less shootings would occur around there.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
loved it when we brought him from washington, just wished he wasnt such a pu$$y out there on the field.. was at the first game of the season last year in nashville, i was sittin 35yrd line 12 rows from the field, and saw with my own two eyes at how scared he was of the titans pass rush.. they arent even that great at pass rush anymore. he would hike the ball and look straight at zmiller every time!
we gotts get a tougher qb in there that will stand up in the pocket and throw the ball and take a big hit while hes at it.. only good qbs can do that. jason campbell doesnt have that tunnel vision, he watches the d-linemen more than his own recievers!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
j campbell with gradkowskis heart and determination = awesome qb
August 25th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
(not saying grads is a good qb) he just plays like a true qb should play the game, but he lacks the overall skillset to do the job right..
August 25th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
JC has a winning record as a Raider, and his preseason QB Rating is PDG this year (95.8; 11/16; 0int).
I don’t quite get the skepticism. The guy swept the AFC west 6-0, and is the first QB to do that – ever!
He looks even better so far this year. (except for choking with Boss open in the EZ!)
August 25th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
It’s gonna be great to see this game vs. the Saints.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
if you saw what i saw that day in nashville, you would be lwughing at what you just typed.. look at all the games j campbell puts up average/acceptable numbers, you will notice in those games, our runningbacks win the games for us.. i can only think of one game vs the afc west where j campbell actually helped us win, ot vs kc(jacoby ford)
August 25th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
i give him this much tho, hes alot better than jawalrus!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
BigTed-due to his history,I am skeptical.However,I do hope his past is exactly that and his future is brighter than ever.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
It’s gonna be great to see this game vs. the Saints
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i agree.. but the win or loss doesnt matter yet lol..
August 25th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
BigTed they just don’t like him and whatever they can say to discredit him they will. JC played very well last week other than the brain fart. He is hands down the best QB we’ve had outside Gannon and even better than Collins was for us. This year he’ll put to rest all doubts that he can play the game at a high level consistently. It’s not like we’ve had this corp of great rec’s to throw to but now their getting better so we’ll see.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
#99-that isn’t saying much.In fact we could pick up someone from the local YMCA and say the same thing.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
JC has a winning record as a Raider, and his preseason QB Rating is PDG this year (95.8; 11/16; 0int).
I don’t quite get the skepticism. The guy swept the AFC west 6-0, and is the first QB to do that – ever!
He looks even better so far this year. (except for choking with Boss open in the EZ!)
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You are right. Campbell does allow is to win games. We’ll see.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
We don’t have to say things to discredit the guy,his play on the field does it for him.
August 25th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
# J-Raider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
if you saw what i saw that day in nashville, you would be lwughing at what you just typed.. look at all the games j campbell puts up average/acceptable numbers, you will notice in those games, our runningbacks win the games for us.. i can only think of one game vs the afc west where j campbell actually helped us win, ot vs kc(jacoby ford)
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You’re not wrong. It’s gonna’ take the whole team to win, even then it will be a tough season.
J-Camp isn’t Montana, I don’t expect him to take the team on his shoulders and start calling the plays himself and leading us to glory.
I expect him to manage the game, Complete over 55% of his throws, and not turn the ball over – fumbling the snap like QBs we’ve seen in the past 5 years.
DMac, Bush, Ford, and now D-Wow have to help get it done too!
August 25th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
That brain fart as you call it could cost us a game.Funny how you blame a certain QB last year for losing a game for not calling a TO,yet easily wright this off as a brain fart.Why don’t you try holding both up to the same standards!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
*write
August 25th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
With all this Campbell talk I can’t help but think of kicking him to the curb and watching Pryor for the next ten years. We’ll see.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
How is calling it a brain fart writing it off??
exactly how would you like me to describe it?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
What did I say about Gradkowski that was worse than what I said about JC……..I think it’;s how YOU take it Left.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I think Campbell knows he needs to be great. We need him to be great.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I blame Gardowski for not getting the snap off on time or calling TO at the end of the Az game last year. Taking a 5 yd delay of game penalty when we are at the half yd line trying to go ahead was a DISASTER!
I also blame Glo for us not scoring a TD on that drive where he had Boss open in the back of the end zone.
I don’t think you can hold a regular season loss to the same standard as a preseason game though.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I said the same things about JC that I said about Grads until JC showed himself to be a better player. If I thought Grads could do better I would be all over him truth is he couldn’t so they are the same standards.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
When the QB last year didn’t call the TO,you didn’t just make a comment like,oh,he just had a brain fart,you attacked him for months like a school of piranas going after a chunk of meat.DOUBLE STANDARDS.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
priesttj Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
JC played very well last week other than the brain fart.
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That play would have never happened if we ran it in from the 2yl like a competent team would! That play to Reece was Pathetic!
Still, JCamp has to pull the trigger on the TE in the EZ!
If we scored the TD right there, we would all be rejoicing that we beat the ‘9ers 7-3, instead of being left with this bad taste. Y’kmow how it is in Nor-Cal – we gotta live with this all season from SF fans!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I think Campbell knows he needs to be great. We need him to be great.
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The same could also be said for Pryor
August 25th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
I take JC’s game apart the same way I did Grads there is no favortism other than what they showed on the field. I want to win Grads is a try hard kid who’s short on talent and brains IMO. He thinks he’s some star and doesn’t play within himself. But if you love him that much he’s still in the league.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Year-2008 Year-2010
Player-JaMarcus Russell Player-Jason Campbell
Team-OAK Team-OAK
Pos-QB Pos-QB
Comp-198 Comp-194
Att-368 Att-329
Pct-53.8 Pct-59.0
Att/G-24.5 Att/G-25.3
Yds-2,423 Yds-2,387
Avg-6.6 Avg-7.3
Yds/G-161.5 Yds/G-183.6
TD-13 TD-13
Int-8 Int-8
1st-111 1st-108
1st%-30.2 1st%-32.8
Lng-84 Lng-73
20+ -38 20+ -29
40+ -5 40+ -8
Sck-31 Sck-33
Rate-77.1 Rate-84.5
the similarities are freakishly scary!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Until JC proves otherwise he doesn’t deserve the adulation spewed upon him by many.If you are a Raider fan,you have to want him to be very good.But until he earns it,I won’t give him anything he hasn’t earned,and so far i don’t think he has earned it..You can,that is your prerogative.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Lefty12 he cost us a win vs an inferior opponent. You telling me you care about a preseason game the same as a regular season game when we were on a roll.
JC played 1qrtr not an entire game filled with one gaff after another.If the guy was so great why isn’t he starting in Cincinnati??
It’s almost like that guy won a SB here the wya people revere him. He won THREEE GAMES!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
grads to me is like rudy from notre dame.. all heart nothing else..
August 25th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
do you guys see those stat similarities on jrussel-jcampbell .. i couldnt believe it!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
There’s a nice feature on Derrek Hagan on Netflix called 2 a days. Good Watch .(cameras following Haggan during the 96 Combine)
August 25th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
f nam21
f rivers
f tim tebow
f graykowski
f zmiller
f LT
f JLH
f TO
F everyone who is not a member of the RAIDERS…
August 25th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I say the same things Hue says and I didn’t wait for him to say them first I took the guys game apart this offseason and he can play. The adulation you’re talking about he has earned IMO you seem to give it to GRads for doing less than half of what JC has done.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
” two a days”
August 25th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
The FB dive to Reece on 3rd and goal from the 2 was pathetic. That play to Reece NEVER works.
1st down bootleg call to JC was pretty silly too.
250 back that no one wants a part of in practice and you don’t just pound it in on 1st and goal?
That series of calls and lack of scoring is on Hue, imo.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Love Grads-now you are being ridiculous.He doesn’t have the talent of a JC in him in the least.Did he think he was better than he really was,without a doubt.Saying he was short on brains is ridiculous,just as those that say the same about JC are ridiculous.However,I’ve seen Jc make certain plays and its usually someone else’s fault.When Grads made them they were alway his fault and repeatedly pointed out.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
1st down bootleg call to JC was pretty silly too.
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I remember we called a similiar play last year against SD it resulte in a TD however situation was diffrent, so was the result.
Would have made sense for us to ram it down the niners throat…
August 25th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Jason is a stopgap QB until we get someone better.
I would keep drafting QBs until we come up with a good one.
Last good one….Rich Gannon.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
jason campbell last year, had the same year as jawalrus in 2008… does anyone else see that????
August 25th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Speaking of Tom Cable, anyone catch dude on the sidelines in his last game?
Guy has a gold chain hanging out, a rock in his ear (never seen a coach with an earring), a pinky ring, and XXXXL shirt untucked hanging below his kneecaps.
My man is taking it to a whole new level.
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I wont apologize for it. I like Tom Cable. He had me at “Hip hip hooray”.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
J-Raider interesting stats, I don’t know what to say to that other that J-Camp got more wins. 6-0 in the AFC west, not even Rivers could do that.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
I would keep drafting QBs until we come up with a good one.
Last good one….Rich Gannon
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richy rich was drafted in the mid 80’s by the vikings
August 25th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Grads wasn’t a QB who could lead any team anywhere.You always say because I knock JC I’m in love with Grads and nothing could be further from the truth.The truth is I don’t like either one of them.Grads doesn’t have the talent.He’ll be lucky to keep a job as a BU.But so far,JC hasn’t proven he will lead us anywhere either.And until he does,I refuse to accept all the talk about how good he is.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
When we win the kickoff against NO dont defer,
let our O get on the field first…
Unleash all that speed we have on NO…
August 25th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
134.BigTed707 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
J-Raider interesting stats, I don’t know what to say to that other that J-Camp got more wins. 6-0 in the AFC west, not even Rivers could do that.
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so who accomplished more? jcampbell didnt go to the playoffs and niether did jrussell..
August 25th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
lets just start tpryor!!! see what he can do !!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Lefty12 Man come on JC took 10x’s the heat in here and in the stadium than Grads EVER did. That guy has been called every name in the BOOK in here. he beeen called a coward adn deer in the headlights everythung tgey can think of. Yet you speak of some kind of adulation he gets and I’s like to know who gives him that besides me? And Mistic1 we’re the only 2-5 guys in here who actually like the guy.
Where as EVERYONE thought the world of Grads and I NEVER heard you complain and he didn’t do SQUAT he beat the STeelers and ran around telling everybody how GREAT he was. The guy was delusional because fans HATED russell so much they would’ve taken Pee Wee Herman…………yet he thought he was Payton Manning. he was an idiot………….period
August 25th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
In other words Priest-talk is cheap-SHOW ME.BTW,he didn’t lose the game,Jano did,even if you refuse to admit it.Even with all the bad plays he had in the game he had us in position to win.But I guess that only means something if you like the guy.
J Hill-was that slide in Tenn a small brain fart we should overlook?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Russel’s 08 was 15 games while JC 12 in 2010. Plus JC BEAT THREE DIFFERENT OPPONENTS TWICE.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Love Grads-now you are being ridiculous.He doesn’t have the talent of a JC in him in the least.Did he think he was better than he really was,without a doubt.Saying he was short on brains is ridiculous,just as those that say the same about JC are ridiculous.However,I’ve seen Jc make certain plays and its usually someone else’s fault.When Grads made them they were alway his fault and repeatedly pointed out.
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JC sure does look dumb though, what with that sloping forehead and all.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Gerard Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
I wont apologize for it. I like Tom Cable. He had me at “Hip hip hooray”.
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I like Cable too, but I get the sense that Cable was a lame duck from the day Hue got here. He was there to ease Hue in, but take the blame if it all went to sh!t. Hue was gonna be the HC no matter what, and that is the right decision. Hue got the Offense clicking.
I wish we could have retained T.Cable as an assistant/Oline coach. But I doubt Cable’s pride would let that happen. He saves face by doing that role in SEA – that is the best role for him.
Al didn’t have to throw him under the bus like that – he could have been way more diplomatic, and kept that stuff in-house. His contract was up, and Hue was in, that’s all that needed to be said.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
I happen t likie JC’s demeanor he’s humble and yet very competitive. he has greta talent and yet he’ll give credit to the people around him and he doesn’t shirk his responsibilities. He’s reliable and a decent man and a decent leader.
he’ll never be Tom Brady or Payton Manning but he can win big for us taht’s why I like him and speak of him the way I do. he plays withing himself and does what he has to do to win. He doesn’t pretend to be something he’s NOT!!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
JC is leagues ahead of Russell…..he should have started the az game….chalked the season and rythym of team. Russell was the main qb all year. Not same thing
August 25th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
J-Raider Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Year-2008 Year-2010
Player-JaMarcus Russell Player-Jason Campbell
Team-OAK Team-OAK
Pos-QB Pos-QB
Comp-198 Comp-194
Att-368 Att-329
Pct-53.8 Pct-59.0
Att/G-24.5 Att/G-25.3
Yds-2,423 Yds-2,387
Avg-6.6 Avg-7.3
Yds/G-161.5 Yds/G-183.6
TD-13 TD-13
Int-8 Int-8
1st-111 1st-108
1st%-30.2 1st%-32.8
Lng-84 Lng-73
20+ -38 20+ -29
40+ -5 40+ -8
Sck-31 Sck-33
Rate-77.1 Rate-84.5
the similarities are freakishly scary!!!
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Yes, but with the noted dissimilarities:
• JaBustus was a boat anchor in the pocket
• JaBustus had no pocket presence whatsoever
• JaBustus had no scrambling ability
• JaBustus had no faking skills & couldn’t look a WR off
• JaBustus has absolutely no work ethic
• JaBustus had absolutely no touch on his passes
• JaBustus had zero leadership availability
• JaBustus only learned a portion of the offensive playbook
• JaBustus was in a continual drug stupor from Purple Drank
• JaBustus didn’t really care
I’m sure the list could go on & on but why beat a totally dead horse. The point being that Soup is nothing like JaBustus. Their numbers (stats) over a period of time may have been similar but that’s where the similarity ends.
Let’s put that loser behind us forever and forget that he ever existed. Right now our future is looking much brighter and until proven differently, Soup is one of the main offensive leaders of OUR team. I for one hope he becomes another Gannon FA vet success story while with the S&B.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
j raider, I am well aware of when Rich Gannon was drafted.
My point is we have failed to come up with a good QB since Gannon. Let’s keep trying till we find one!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Priest,when he even looks like a good QB I will come here and admit you made a good call.I hope that day comes and comes soon,but I believe he reads and reacts too slow to be a good QB.Nothing football wise could make me happier than to admit I was wrong.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
#149, yes.
Jason reacts too slow and plays scared.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Lefty12 Man come on JC took 10x’s the heat in here and in the stadium than Grads EVER did. That guy has been called every name in the BOOK in here. he beeen called a coward adn deer in the headlights everythung tgey can think of. Yet you speak of some kind of adulation he gets and I’s like to know who gives him that besides me? And Mistic1 we’re the only 2-5 guys in here who actually like the guy.
Where as EVERYONE thought the world of Grads and I NEVER heard you complain and he didn’t do SQUAT he beat the STeelers and ran around telling everybody how GREAT he was. The guy was delusional because fans HATED russell so much they would’ve taken Pee Wee Herman…………yet he thought he was Payton Manning. he was an idiot………….period
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The “slide” in Tenn was unforgivable. He was cut like Fredo after that.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
BIG brain fart Lefty.
He was rightfully benched early in the year.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Priest,as far as all those qualities you mention in #145,I agree 100%.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
The 2 plays that killed us in the Az game …
Opening kickoff returned for a TD against us
Gardowski taking a delay of game at the 1 foot line.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
This season is the defining point for Al Davis. If Raiders tank and go 5-11 or even 6-10, then it will show that he really has no clue; that he is the senile, out of touch “has been” the “haters” try to paint him as, and that the critical media was right.
To fire a guy who made good progress and ended a brutal consecutive losing season streak, and who the media praised for doing so, and a coach who by all accounts motivated his team to another level from where they were, it is a big risk for Mr. Davis.
This season will show if Al really does know better.
By firing Cable and bringing on Jackson as HC, “Coach” Davis is saying that 8-8 wasn’t good enough; that this team should have been in the playoffs. Hue was brought up to HC becuz HE is the one to take the Raiders where they should be.
To fire Cable and then suck with Hue will show Al Davis to be the old, out of touch franchise killer alot of Raider fans (and others) already think he is. And you know what? How would anybody not agree with them? How does anybody defend Al Davis anymore if the Raiders suck this year? I could not. Who could? So this year…this is it.
Injuries? Screw that. Shoulda kept Cable.
Tough schedule? Screw that should kept Cable.
New coach first year, gotta understand? Screw that, it’s just a lame excuse.
This year is IT for Mr. Davis. I’m rooting for him, but it’s all Al.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
I rarely talk down to anyone in this blog nor do I comment on their intelligence. BUT, anyone suggesting we do anything with Pryor this year other than let him hold the clipboard is an IDIOT!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
priest i think campbell is being protected to a certain extent. u can never excuse missing td’s the way he did. he also missed more than 1 shot at a td. he had dhb streaking to the corner endzone open on that overthrow to moore. he also had dhb open with inside postion on that 4th and goal. he looks just like last year.im sorry but the dude is soft as hell. until he shows complete improvement im not ridin this train. we dont owe him anything. btw u know i HATE the grads luv in here. my biggest complaint about soup is he seems too unsure of his own ability. i see a player that is scared to be great. mystic talks that bullsh!t about being conservative in the redzone like its a good thing. thats his problem which is why he is average. at some point in time he has to seize the moment. if u cant trust seeing a wide open te for a td then u have bigger problems than the coaches can fix. its on HIM.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
I like JC too BHP but his time is now. This not making the playoff schit wont be accepted this year. He has weapons and we have some young big brutes soon to start
August 25th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
just showing stats guys.. jrussell and jcampbell had very similar stats regardless of all the excuses.
both years we missed the playoffs regardless of the fact we went 6-0 in the afc-west with jcampbell..
and if you give jcampbell 3 more games to compare to jrussells 2oo8 season, the stats could have swung in a negative direction for jcampbell.. you cant automaticly assume he would have put up more tds and no ints…
both qbs suck is really all im trying to say.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
156.JB Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
I rarely talk down to anyone in this blog nor do I comment on their intelligence. BUT, anyone suggesting we do anything with Pryor this year other than let him hold the clipboard is an IDIOT!
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some people were also bright enuff to say that dmc was a slot wr or 3rd down back last year.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
J Hill,in no way am I defending Grads for the AZ game.But the fact remains if Jano makes the chip shot at the end of the game,most would never mention the mistakes he made.Remember when the bust would play terrible games but lead us to the game winning score at the end.That is what people mentioned-well,at least he drove us to the winning drive-isn’t that all that matters.Well,that is what Grads did but Jano didn’t come through.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
156.JB Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
I rarely talk down to anyone in this blog nor do I comment on their intelligence. BUT, anyone suggesting we do anything with Pryor this year other than let him hold the clipboard is an IDIOT!
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i was refering to the pre-season when i said start t pryor.. starting him in the reg-season would be devastating to this team..
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I disagree with JC being soft. He takes shots….alot of shots to the head
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
he’ll never be Tom Brady or Payton Manning but…
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NEXT!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
What happened to JC last year would not have happened to a lot of QB’s to be pulled after 6qrtrs yet he handled it like a pro. he didn’t go whining to the media or start a distraction he put his head down and went to grind to get better. When he got his chance again he performed. Every QB will have bad games, especially QB’s like him who aren’t top teir. But the guy is a very good QB and is very accurate. he may be a bit slow as you all say but he protects the football which is more important to me than what a lot of QB’s will do.
I’ll take a JC over a lot of guys who throw caution to the wind and throw 24 int’s like Eli Manning. You’ll wait a long time before JC will throw 15 int’s in a season that is much better than throwing over 30 TD’s and 20 int’s.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Armond,
DHB was not wide open on that throw to Moore out of the endzone. The angle that showed DHB in that catch was not wide enough for you to see that there was a S underneath DHB. He was not open.
You really think DHB was open on that 4th down slant. I have to agree that there was a split second, and I do mean split second that he was open right off of his cut, but that 9r guy was right there underneath the route, imo. I think it was a LB who dropped in that passing lane.
I’m actually rewatching it now, so I’ll let you know in about 10 min.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
some people were also bright enuff to say that dmc was a slot wr or 3rd down back last year.
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dmc can do it all, hes that effin good!!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
165.priesttj Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
What happened to JC last year would not have happened to a lot of QB’s to be pulled after 6qrtrs yet he handled it like a pro. he didn’t go whining to the media or start a distraction he put his head down and went to grind to get better. When he got his chance again he performed. Every QB will have bad games, especially QB’s like him who aren’t top teir. But the guy is a very good QB and is very accurate. he may be a bit slow as you all say but he protects the football which is more important to me than what a lot of QB’s will do.
I’ll take a JC over a lot of guys who throw caution to the wind and throw 24 int’s like Eli Manning. You’ll wait a long time before JC will throw 15 int’s in a season that is much better than throwing over 30 TD’s and 20 int’s.
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drew brees had 30 tds and over 20 ints last season and they went to the playoffs..
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
163.BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I disagree with JC being soft. He takes shots….alot of shots to the head
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jcampbell is softer than soft-serve ice-cream..
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
The 2 plays that killed us in the Az game …
Opening kickoff returned for a TD against us
Gardowski taking a delay of game at the 1 foot line.
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This is just plain ridiculous. We ALL saw the game. ONLY ONE PLAY MATTERED. the last one that lost us the game. Even Jano admitted it so anyone who says different on this blog is DIRT DUMB.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I’m actually more concerned about our defense. I think the CB experience shortage will end up being OK. The LB situation is serious. As serious, IMO, is our DC. I’m not sold on the fact that he’s got the wherewithal to lead this group of players successfully. I do not look forward to his famous or infamous “prevent” defensive strategies that only prevented victory for us way too many times. AD has done a great job this year on upgrading our coaching staff. Bresnahan, IMO, got that job by default because AD couldn’t find ANYONE else in time. I just hope that decision doesn’t come back and bite us in the a$$.
I will be grossly disappointed if we don’t win the AFC-WEST this year and go to the playoffs. Pass the koolaid please.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Armond Says:
…if u cant trust seeing a wide open te for a td then u have bigger problems than the coaches can fix. its on HIM.
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TRUTH!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Mike Bush’s blitz pick ups were pathetic in this game. Just missed a block on that first drive where everyone pointed out DHB not adjusting his route. Well the blitz was picked up perfectly except for Bush whiffing on his man who cracked Campbell.
Bush also missed his block on the play where Campbell got hurt.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
You really think DHB was open on that 4th down slant. I have to agree that there was a split second, and I do mean split second that he was open right off of his cut, but that 9r guy was right there underneath the route, imo. I think it was a LB who dropped in that passing lane.
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If you can’t get it in from the 2yl after three tries, Kick the darn FG and take a long look in the mirror!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I disagree with JC being soft. He takes shots….alot of shots to the head
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Well unless our line impoves our QBs will have a bar tab a mile long.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
If Rex Grossman lead the bears to the superbowl why not campbell?
August 25th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Upon further review, Groves was not responsible for one bad play on that first long drive that ended in the Romac int.
My bad Groves!
Boyd was TERRIBLE on that drive though. Probably not his fault as we shouldn’t have had that damn big nickle D on the field anyway.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
The 2 plays that killed us in the Az game …
Opening kickoff returned for a TD against us
Gardowski taking a delay of game at the 1 foot line.
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This is just plain ridiculous. We ALL saw the game. ONLY ONE PLAY MATTERED. the last one that lost us the game. Even Jano admitted it so anyone who says different on this blog is DIRT DUMB.
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I’m not even sure why this is being discussed. Ancient history. But as long as folks are posting about it, here goes…The QB for that game put us in position to win. A chip shot shank was to blame for that loss and nothing else. Anyone that denies this is clearly biased. Put their favorite QB in there and their tune changes real fast. LOL, a delay of game? Puhlease. Let me guess…you found nothing wrong with the JC no throw to Boss in the last game too? LOL People in here are hilarious with their favoritism.
August 25th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
173.J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Mike Bush’s blitz pick ups were pathetic in this game. Just missed a block on that first drive where everyone pointed out DHB not adjusting his route. Well the blitz was picked up perfectly except for Bush whiffing on his man who cracked Campbell.
Bush also missed his block on the play where Campbell got hurt.
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michael bush sucks then, we should cut him.
seriously tho, dont you understand this is the MOTHER EFFIN PRESEASON!!!!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
JB,I absolutely agree about the LBs and have had the same concern since the end of last year.I believe McClain will be solid but the two outside guys worry me.
Priest,if you’d rather have JC than E.Manning it is of no use to continue to discuss QBs.There is no comparison.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Priest,if you’d rather have JC than E.Manning it is of no use to continue to discuss QBs.There is no comparison.
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LMAO!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
this is the MOTHER EFFIN PRESEASON!!!!!!
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It’s all we got…
August 25th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Armond I have no problem when people critigue JC’s game everyones opinion is their own. I saw hwta you meant about DHB and you’re right. The thing is HE TRUSTED Moore more than he did DHB and who can blame him. He just mad ethe trow TOO late.
listen if by midseason the offense is sagging we all know what will happen. He will be replaced but IMO he is hands down the best QB on this roster. That is MY OPINION……
Now we’ll let it play out and see who’s right. I would’ve gone to Moore as well but DHB was open next time he may go that route who knows. After the Boss gaff he wnet up to Boss and apologized which told me he knows that he made a mistake that means he wishes he would’ve have given him a chance.
I keep saying this it’s PRESEASON and yet everyone waants JC and everyone else to be on point. And I’m telling ya’ it’s a bit much to ask at this point. You guys are way overeacting to everything because you wnat to see improvement.
It’s Preseason……give yourself a break this will get better as the seaosn wears on you are way too critical way too early.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
J-Raider,preseason or not,it is his job to make those plays.We aren’t talking about a 1st year rookie.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
This blog is getting into mid season form… I hope C-Frank is too!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Pryor is here…..yaaaaaaawn
so what?
Wake me when we actually develop a QB…..
August 25th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
JC will be as good as our running game. Period, end of story. He can’t carry the offense. That’s just not his MO. But with the horses we have, that may be all we need. Someone to manage the game. But, man, if we had someone that could hit our receivers in stride down the field, I would feel SO much better. Come on, JC! Work on our timing bro!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
*your* timing
August 25th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Our Rbs will need to be better in blitz pick-up if we don’t want to see a carnival at QB,
August 25th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I will give JC credit for getting the ball out quickly and knowing where he wanted to go on that play J Hill talked about where Bush missed his block. This was a big criticism of mine last year. Know where you want to go with the ball when you’re presented with pressure.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
LOL!
I see a couple of 4th stringers are trying to move up the depth chart.
So let me get this straight we should rely on a FG kicker to win a game instead of a QB, or RB punching it in from the half footline? Sure thing bud. Here’s a new flash for you, kickers miss FGs. Just because our kicker can allegedly make 60 yarders doesn’t make a 30 ydr a chip shot.
There is no need to guess what my thoughts are on the Boss play, it’s posted on the board already. Just scroll up.
Let’s see what was the other scrub babbling about? Oh yeah. You’re right this is preseason. I guess it doesn’t really matter than our starting QB is taking direct shots because ONE guys is missing his blitz pickups. Concussions are no big deal, eh?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Sam Williams – you’ve been riding that pine for like 9 years now. Finally, Now is your time to shine!
Now get out there and Kick some A$$!
#54 will be starting MLB against the Saints on Sun.
ha freaking ha!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
JC has to perform no doubt, want him to have a good season.
This will help keep TP off the field.
JC goes in the tank, everyone will be calling for TP ready or not…
August 25th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Priest,
You’re right Campbell is the best QB on the roster!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Lefty12
You are right. Soup simply blew it. Fortunately it is preseason and doesn’t count. That kind of bad choice or indecision is unacceptable and he needs to make sure it doesn’t happen when it counts.
Priest made a good point too. Soup realized his error and accepted it, apologized to Boss which was classy and that should be the end of it unless it happens again. I don’t think it will because Soup seems to be learning and adapting to the new offensive scheme well. I guess we’ll really know when the season starts and it really counts.
Someone said earlier that Soup is responsible to get us to the playoffs this year. I see it that way too. AD got him the tools to get it done so it’s on him & the coaches to get us where we need to be, the playoffs.
Unless we fix that O-Line it will all be mute. So here’s your line-up Hue: Veldheer, Heyer, Satele, BCampbell & Barksdale. Your welcome Hue. Just get them all on the same page quickly. These guys will have the bully ability you are searching for.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
WHOA !!!
On that ShoNasty int, Big Rich comes in during the return and lays the wood to a 9r trying to get in on a play.
LMFAO!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
As the fan violence escalated at Saturday’s preseason N.F.L. game between the Raiders and the 49ers at Candlestick Park, security officials received a message through Badfan, a system in the stadium that allows people to text tips about unruly behavior and fights.
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The message said a man was causing problems in the stands. But when security personnel arrived, they found a woman, laughing and pointing at her embarrassed boyfriend, who was the victim of the prank.
“Quite frankly, it happens every game. It’s like, ‘Are you serious?’ ” said Jim Mercurio, vice president of stadium operations and security for the 49ers. “We can laugh about it except when you’ve got numbers of these coming in and you have to divert and send resources down to the seats.”
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Does this really happen? What a bunch of effing morons! This is like calling 911 and laughing when the ambulance arrives. Some people really don’t deserve to take up space on this planet.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
All Hue needs to do is give the first team a chance to get in rythum they play 1 qrtr and they’re out. He needs time with those guys on the field hopefull as many starters as possible becuase the timing is still not there. I’ll say it until it is he’s guessing on throws because of a lack of reps…………period
August 25th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
As much as I like Bush, I wish he would play up to his size.He seems soft for such a big man.He should put fear into opposing blitzers and tacklers.He is the opposite of a guy like Grad.Grad tried to play like a big man and got the crap knocked out of him because of it.Bush tries to play like a scat back at times instead of throwing his weight around.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
J Hill Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
LOL!
I see a couple of 4th stringers are trying to move up the depth chart.
So let me get this straight we should rely on a FG kicker to win a game instead of a QB, or RB punching it in from the half footline? Sure thing bud. Here’s a new flash for you, kickers miss FGs. Just because our kicker can allegedly make 60 yarders doesn’t make a 30 ydr a chip shot.
There is no need to guess what my thoughts are on the Boss play, it’s posted on the board already. Just scroll up.
Let’s see what was the other scrub babbling about? Oh yeah. You’re right this is preseason. I guess it doesn’t really matter than our starting QB is taking direct shots because ONE guys is missing his blitz pickups. Concussions are no big deal, eh?
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Belichik used a kicker to WIN the SB like twice if memory serves me. LIKE I SAID YOU’RE DIRT DUMB!!!
August 25th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
I am not worried about our O…Its the D that should get called to the carpet…I expect a much better showing this week, or we will be scouting the waiver wire after tuesday…
August 25th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
It’s going to be pretty hard for Glo to go into the tank, Thec.
I don’t think he has a problem hitting open guys. With Moore, Ford, DHB, Chaz, Boss, and McFadden all healthy and on the field, a couple folks are going to be open.
I don’t see our Oline having the same issues with pass protection once we get the real starting 5 out there.
Glo is in a good situation. Hell, I think Edwards and Boeller couldn’t even F this up.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Glo is in a good situation. Hell, I think Edwards and Boeller couldn’t even F this up.
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Agreed…
August 25th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Scrub? LOL. Are you a self-annointed blog pro? Hilarious. Nobody here is going to change your mind. That much is apparent. Fact is, walk up to random Raider fans and ask them why we lost that game and 95% will say it was the missed chip shot. But you are the blog pro, right? LOL at that.
You have to love when folks resort to name calling. Clear sign of defeat. Keep it real, my man. No reason to try knocking people down. Are you an adult?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
When I sau=y it’s preseason I don’t mean things don’t matter Jhill, I mean things like what’s happening are to be expected. In preseason is when you get that stuff straightened out. To expect perfection at this point is ridiculous because YOU WONT get it………period
JC making mistakes is supposed to be expected in preseason get it out of the way NOW! I’ve never seen a team go through preseason without concerns like we have now that’s why they have preseason.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
We are going to score a hell of a lot of points…
The D needs to stop teams on 3rd downs…
Giving up the Big one F that…D needs to man the F up…
August 25th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Parsons is not good.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
JB,my line is -Veldheer,Heyer,Wiz,Carlisle(for now),Barksdale.B.Campbell taking over after a few weeks,maybe even the bye week.Starting him and the rookie together too soon wouldn’t be a good thing,IMO.My second choice would be V-CC-Wiz-BC-Heyer.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Mike Vick had one of the worst game his his career pplayers know they will only get a few snaps and sometimes they will press and mistakes happen. There’s nothing unusual about any of this.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Do you think Cambell has thought about the fact that he was traded for a 4th rounder and the parted wit a 3 rounder for Pryor. Its had to atleast have crossed his mind
August 25th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Belichik used a kicker to WIN the SB like twice if memory serves me. LIKE I SAID YOU’RE DIRT DUMB!!!
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I can’t believe I’m even wasting my time with you.
But eff it, it’s preseason for the blog too.
Ok, let’s slow this down for you.
The question was …
So let me get this straight we should rely on a FG kicker to win a game instead of a QB, or RB punching it in from the half footline?
And your answer is Belecheat one a couple of super bowls with a kicker?
So are you really saying that you would rather have a kicker try and win the game for you than have your heart of lion, plays the game a QB is supposed to play it, fan favorite Gardowski sneak it in from the half yard line? Or have McFadden run it in?
You want it on the kicker??? Really???
Well Buffalo lost a couple SBs relying on a kicker.
And did Tom Brady botch any plays from the half yd line in those Belecheat SB wins?
Why are we talking about the Cheatriots again?
Ima get back to watching this game mayne. It’s cool if you disagree with me.
No biggie.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
When I sau=y it’s preseason I don’t mean things don’t matter Jhill, I mean things like what’s happening are to be expected. In preseason is when you get that stuff straightened out. To expect perfection at this point is ridiculous because YOU WONT get it………period
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The last time we had a great preseason, we got the sh1t kicked out of us in the regular season. Shell part 2. Most embarrassing year of my Raider fan life. I’m not too worried about the overall team play. Though I do look at individual performance and let’s just hope JC gets those cobwebs out.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Channing Crowder??? Really? What do you got on him and this situation?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
heard on espn that the Eagles are now talking to tatupu, because of their wek lb corp.
Raiders need to step up to the plate and sign him, unless they are really excited about their lbs.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Personally I like Bush’s running style yes he does at times tend to dance. But it’s who he is he’s not some lumbering big back who looks for someone to run over. Bush is a very skilled runner with great footwork at time swhen he uses it because he’s not quick it looks bad. But when he hits it right it’s beautiful to watch. When he need to he’ll run over an entire dfense.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
The last time we had a great preseason, we got the sh1t kicked out of us in the regular season. Shell part 2. Most embarrassing year of my Raider fan life. I’m not too worried about the overall team play. Though I do look at individual performance and let’s just hope JC gets those cobwebs out.
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That one was on Al. After the SB loss he stated grasping at every remnance of his past.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
of the 15 players that will be cut by the 30th, I expect Mr. Pakulak to not be one of them as the Raiders will not want Mr. Lechler or Mr. Janokowski playing all 4 qtrs vs Seattle, so there will be 15 position players cut.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
JB,my line is -Veldheer,Heyer,Wiz,Carlisle(for now),Barksdale.B.Campbell taking over after a few weeks,maybe even the bye week.Starting him and the rookie together too soon wouldn’t be a good thing,IMO.My second choice would be V-CC-Wiz-BC-Heyer.
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I don’t think Wiz is quite ready yet but I would like to see him improve his skills/techniques and replace Satele.
I’m not a CC fan. His best years have passed and he’s a little on the small size for power blocking. Additionally, he & Satele get bull-rushed far too easily. BCambell, while not ready technique wise is able to overcome those shortcomings with pure strength & meanness. Barksdale is just a big ole tractor. He’s big, powerful and impossible to stop once he gets moving. His pass blocking skills are superior to what we’ve seen there this last year. I like Heyer at LG again because of his strength and ability to compensate the left side should Veldheer need help. It’s really important that the middle of our line be very stout & powerful. I believe the ultimate middle will be Heyer, Wiz 2.0 & BCampbell. Now you know my thinking. It will be interesting to see what Hue comes up with – just as long as it’s not Loper, CC & Barnes.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
J-Ford is coming back Sunday!
We will have Ford, D-WOW, DHB, and DMC all on the field together this weekend.
Unfortunately, our Defense is stretched dangerously thin due to injuries.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Priest,don’t misconstrue what I’m saying.I just wish,when it is called for,he’d run and block like you’d expect someone his size to.He doesn’t push the pile back as they say.I’d like to see him do that more often.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
You have to love when folks resort to name calling. Clear sign of defeat. Keep it real, my man. No reason to try knocking people down. Are you an adult?
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Give me break with this buuhhlllshhhttt
Let me repost your attempt at smack talk to me …
Anyone that denies this is clearly biased. Put their favorite QB in there and their tune changes real fast. LOL, a delay of game? Puhlease. Let me guess…you found nothing wrong with the JC no throw to Boss in the last game too? LOL People in here are hilarious with their favoritism.
and all I said to YOU was ….
There is no need to guess what my thoughts are on the Boss play, it’s posted on the board already. Just scroll up.
Now you can call me biased, imply that I have a favorite QB, play favorites, yada yada yada that was filled with sarcasm
I refered you to an earlier post I made on the topic and now your offended because I responded to you?
No one knows you in here = 4th stringer.
No I’m not self appointed, you and everyone in here knows who the phuuggg I am.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
D-WOW – great name identifier for DMoore. I totally concur and support this moniker. I think he’ll live p to it too.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
As far as the O- line goes we only need 1 element to really see results. Call me crazy, but BCamp at RG makes a lot of sense and allows us to had more talent on the line.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
True, 8RaiderReign8. Man, I just have to laugh at the memory of Shell holding a clipboard like he was back in 1990. You’re beautiful, Mr. Art Shell.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
IMO, 4 tackles & a Center are a good start for an O-Line.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
I can see I got you pretty riled up and now you’re just embarrassing yourself. I’m well aware of the sequence of events. lol. But you keep puffing that chest, blog pro. Can’t touch you.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
JB,i like your thinking.I don’t believe Carlisle gets pushed around as much with a more physical center next to him,and he does a good job on running plays.I believe BC should take his place,but he missed a lot of valuable time in early camp.Also,he is essentially a rookie and I don’t know about starting 2 rookies next to each other.At least if Cooper started between Wiz and Barks,they would have a wily vet while they got their feet wet.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
True, 8RaiderReign8. Man, I just have to laugh at the memory of Shell holding a clipboard like he was back in 1990. You’re beautiful, Mr. Art Shell.
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It was the extra smedium hat that got me.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
# The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Channing Crowder??? Really? What do you got on him and this situation?
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I don’t know anything about this guy. But it sure looks like his production has dropped off the past two years. Looks like he has been missing games. 6 years in MIA
He could be a decent BU – I say bring him in and let him compete with Groves.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
15 players I think will be cut or IR to bring Raiders’ to 75:
Mr. Giordano DB
Mr. Brodine DL
Mr. Bryson FB
Mr. McCluskey FB
Mr. Francis LB
Mr. Pelc OL
Mr. Lamaak OL
Mr. Parsons OL
Mr. La Secia QB
Mr. Adeniji WR
Mr. Bayes WR
Mr. Goulet WR
IR:
Mr. Eugene DB
Mr. Goethel LB
Mr. Etheridge
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Do any of you realize Raiders could have kept Mr. Asomugha for the sum equivalent of Mr. Routt, Mr. Loper, & Mr. Carlisle?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
JB,i like your thinking.I don’t believe Carlisle gets pushed around as much with a more physical center next to him,and he does a good job on running plays.I believe BC should take his place,but he missed a lot of valuable time in early camp.Also,he is essentially a rookie and I don’t know about starting 2 rookies next to each other.At least if Cooper started between Wiz and Barks,they would have a wily vet while they got their feet wet.
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I’m not suggesting Wiz to start at center until he’s really ready. Satele, BCampbell & Barksdale should be OK. Even though BC was late at camp, he still is a 2nd year man. So, the only real rookie to start would be Barksdale until Wiz proves he can get it done. We are in the pool come Denver MNF time. It’s time to swim if you are a professional.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
That list looks good RR.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
since Mr. Pryor is going to wear #6, do you think Mr. Hagan had an inside scoop?
August 25th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
What I’d like to see against NO more than anything is a revamped Oline-one more receptive of the one which will start the season.I don’t have much faith in any line that has Loper or Barnes starting.I could live with Sammy and Cooper FOR NOW,but not those other 2.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Do any of you realize Raiders could have kept Mr. Asomugha for the sum equivalent of Mr. Routt, Mr. Loper, & Mr. Carlisle?
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Yes sir, but I believe Nnamdi was going to walk regardless. He was ready to move on and would have probably requested more to stay.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
I think Mr. Bennett & Mr. Rankin remain until the final cuts as they will get the bulk of carries on the 4th preseason game.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Raiders had him, Al chose to void last year of contract.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Do any of you realize Raiders could have kept Mr. Asomugha for the sum equivalent of Mr. Routt, Mr. Loper, & Mr. Carlisle?
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We needed insurance in case the rookies sucked. It’s looking like that won’t happen.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RR
Your list looks pretty accurate with the exception of Francis the LB. We are so short of LB we need as much time as possible to see if he can help at LB. The punter can be cut. Punting poses no threat for Lechler’s well being so there’s not much risk there.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
I’d take Hagan over N.Miller and Bodiford. I’d take any of those three over Chad NotJohnson, Goulet, Adeniji, or McGee. McGee might make the PS.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
I like Mr. Loper as a backup, but at $2 million he is getting starter’s money, so unless he steps up, I think he will either have to restructure for a lower salary or get cut.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
BigT,
I agree
I think the practice squad will include Mr. McGee.
August 25th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Loper will do whatever he has to do to keep the job. He just had a kid and the last thing he needs is unemployment. He’ll restructure and gladly accept the BU role.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Swap Hill-Dt for Francis-lb
August 25th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
although if Mr. Goulet blocks one more punt vs New Orleans he plays at least one more week, against SF he got to the punter so fast, one because he wasn’t accounted for and two he was fast.
He might make it due to special teams performance.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
JB,a second year man who the former coach didn’t get him any reps in games last year-one of his dumber moves.That is why I say he is essentially a rookie.We agree on what we should do,our time tables are just a little different.
On another note,does Pryor count on the roster now or not until after his suspension?If he doesn’t count towards the final 53 until after his suspension can we keep an extra player throughout the preseason?
August 25th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Steve Cockran was chatting that Mr. Hill my play some linebacker, with Mr. Scott back it makes sense.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Here comes my peeps for C-Frank!
August 25th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
I’m a big NMiller fan – maybe it;s the Rudy comparison. Nonetheless, Hagan has earned the spot on the 53. We now have a number of possible PR’s like Ford, D-WOW, TJ, etc. so Nick’s value here has been devalued significantly. Sadly, I think this is his last hurrah with us. So long Nick & good luck. He could catch on with another team. He finds a way to get open and he has good hands. Plus his return ability will help. I think he’ll land on his feet somewhere.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
No hope for Francis? If i recall he was in on the FF in Pre-1 good spec teams player & lack of lb core
August 25th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Since Mr. Pryor can participate in preseason, I’m sure he counts against the 75/90 man roster.
We are at 89 until Terrelle signs then we will be at the full 90, including potential IRs.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Lefty, I don’t believe Pryor counts until the suspension is over.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
I believe Nnamdi voided the contract,not the Raiders.
As far as cuts go,we’ve still got a ways to go.Injuries may make a lot of the decisions.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
new post
August 25th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Prior doesn’t count until after the suspension
August 25th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Pryor does not count against the roster until week 6
August 25th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I took an educated [arguably] guess between Mr. Francis, Mr. Gbadyu, and Mr. Blastock, was down to the 2 UFDAs, then went with the smaller school; I could see Mr. Francis making the roster as I could any of the other backup LBs.
August 25th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Asomugha’s deal included a little-known clause that said his contract would void if he didn’t achieve his not-likely-to-be-earned incentives in 2010 — and he didn’t.
His contract also contained a stipulation that if he didn’t achieve his incentives, the Raiders would agree not to designate him their franchise or transition player.
To achieve his incentives, Asomugha had to play in a greater number of defensive plays in 2010 than he did in 2009, and this season Asomugha played in only 14 games whereas he played in all 16 in 2009.
He also could have achieved his incentives by improving upon on his interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season — but he didn’t have any interceptions, fumble recoveries or sacks this season.
Asomugha needed EITHER 1 SACK OR 1 FR OR 2 INT
SIGH
August 25th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
well I guess we could be thankful, because if Nnamdi had those 2ints, then we probably would have defeated Miami, SF, Jax, or AZ and we would be stuck with Cable as head coach for one more season.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:01 am
Priesttj says: “I’ll take a JC over a lot of guys who throw caution to the wind and throw 24 int’s like Eli Manning.”
One of the worst opinions you’ve spouted, and there have been many (pro-russell, pro-dhb, anti-mcfadden).
That’s like criticizing Ryan Howard because he strikes out so much.
TDs = automatic points. INTs do not equal auto points for opponent.
Thus, more of both is a net gain.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:53 am
jason campbell will have his chance. he’s 29, has improved a little every year, and does ok. but that’s not really a ringing endorsement. he has never, in college or pros, had the same system 2 years in a row. so maybe he does a good job. i think we’d all be happy w/ something like 3500 yards/25 td’s/12 ints. i mean that’s not manning/brady but it’s top half of the nfl. i’m optimistic b/c he does have some good qualities. he has a strong arm. he has good size and decent mobility. he works hard. he studies. those are good things. however, he does seem to take a little too long to make decisions. part of that was always blamed on having to always learn new systems. and his not seeing boss in the endzone right away was troubling. i am a little scared that basically he’s mediocre. not horrible. but just not really very good either. i’m hoping but there’s a feeling in my gut that says he will be just so-so this year. the problem will be if we go 10-6 and he puts up 3200/20/14. i mean what do you do? it’s not great but it’s not horrible. what the heck do you do? that will depend on two guys. trent edwards and terrelle pryor. edwards may only come into play if campbell gets hurt or really struggles. he’s only 27, has tools, and is smart. i mean basically we all understand why he was a 1st rounder. he could still blossom. he does have lots of starts and those tools. maybe not but there’s a chance. what happens if jc gets hurt or pulled and edwards does a nice job? now what? and then there’s our boy pryor. how fast will he develop? will he develop at all? the raiders qb spot will be very interesting to watch.
August 26th, 2011 at 12:59 am
for all of the al davis bashers, first of all, i don’t even understand how someone can call themselves a raiders fan and be harsh to al davis. it doesn’t even make sense. people who love the raiders should also love the man behind them. i mean i can understand not liking some of his decisions. i don’t agree w/ everything either. but to bash him is anti-raider.
and why complain about him needing to step aside? seriously? the dude knows a lot about the game, has done great things, and is a HOF-er. and, it’s his team! if i owned a team, i’d do what the heck i wanted to do too. so get over it. the raiders are and will always be al’s team until he decides to quit or dies, probably the latter. and that’s the way it should be. it’s like complaining that henry ford had a lot to do w/ his cars. duh!
August 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am
# BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExcellence2011 Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Lol MR is KING again…..He has so much fun destroying my lies cuz truth doesnt exist inside for a loser like me!!!
August 26th, 2011 at 10:47 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Do any of you realize Raiders could have kept Mr. Asomugha for the sum equivalent of Mr. Routt, Mr. Loper, & Mr. Carlisle?****Of course!!!!! THe Raiders know nothing about building a foot ball team!!LMAO
August 26th, 2011 at 10:50 am
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August 26th, 2011 at 10:58 am
priesttj Says:
August26th,2011 9:30am All I know is we’re gonna get blown out of every preseason game and that WILL carry over!!!!!
August 26th, 2011 at 10:59 am
priesttj Says:
August26th,2011 9:30am All I know is we’re gonna get blown out of every preseason game and that WILL carry over!!!!! 0-4 2-14
August 26th, 2011 at 11:00 am
# JB Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Lefty, I don’t believe Pryor counts for anything he sucks.Will be worse then Ja.RUSSELL!
August 26th, 2011 at 11:01 am
# Tjbwall Says:
August 25th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Swap Hill-Dt for Connie Francis-lb
August 26th, 2011 at 11:04 am
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August 26th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Speaking of Monkeys ….
FREE RAIDER O!!!!!!!!!!The Raiders are loaded with them especially At QB!!!!!!!
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