Raiders place Eugene on injured reserve
By Steve Corkran
Friday, August 26th, 2011 at 5:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Note: Something happened to the original post. So, here goes with a rewrite.
The Raiders placed safety and core special-teamer Hiram Eugene on the injured-reserve list Friday, meaning he is out for the season.
Eugene suffered a dislocated hip in the third quarter against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 11 and needed surgery to repair the damage.
The cruel irony is, the Raiders weren’t supposed to be on the field when Eugene got hurt. They were on defense because they “chose” to kick off to start the game and the Cardinals “chose” to receive the kick to start the second half. Chose is the word used by the referee to explain why the Raiders kicked off to start both halves.
The Raiders won’t have a difficult time replacing Eugene defensively. Stevie Brown or one of several other options can take his place. Replacing Eugene on special teams won’t be as easy.
Eugene carved out a niche as a dependable special teams player in recent seasons, especially on punt and kick coverage. Several players are vying for the role now.
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August 26th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Very detailed report. Thanks, Steve.
August 26th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
That’s a pile of suck.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Good read.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
New Linebacker ?
August 26th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Sign Tutupu!
August 26th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Thanks Steve!!!!
August 26th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
CorkOnTheNFL The Raiders placed safety Hiram Eugene on injured reserve. He had surgery to repair the dislocated hip he suffered against the Cardinals.
3 minutes ago
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Roster spot opened up. Who takes advantage?
August 26th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Cassell wasn’t in for very long. halfway through the 2nd quarter and Palco is in, and moving the offense.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
The Rams need TO more than we do.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Tatupu!!!! COME ON AL!!
August 26th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Michael Lombardi is a turd!
August 26th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
don’t worry guys. lito sheppard is here. he fixes the cb situation b/c he is going to play like it 5 years ago. and he will fix the lb situation, b/c he will the key to the new “little nickel”.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
This makes the Saints game even more interesting.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
lol at Cassell trying to call back to back Time-Outs.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Hey…maybe we can be the first team to retire a # based on embarrassment!
August 26th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Steve, how about telling us if sunday’s game is going to be broadcast in the bay area? It’s not showing up in the directv or comcast guides on NBC sunday night. Don’t see a tape delay broadcast either. Anybody know the deal?
August 26th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
I’ll take a loaf of two, two pooh, to go.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Hey…maybe we can be the first team to retire a # based on embarrassment!
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Wouldn’t surprise me. Plus, I think Al is still trying to fire sale a boatload of jerseys from the former #2 at Raider Image…..
August 26th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I got a few spots left on my FFL….anyone??
August 26th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Hey…maybe we can be the first team to retire a # based on embarrassment!
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Wouldn’t surprise me. Plus, I think Al is still trying to fire sale a boatload of jerseys from the former #2 at Raider Image…..
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I just updated JaWalrus’s Wikipedia page with this nugget. Too hilarious.
August 26th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
@19 when’s the draft?
August 26th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Sept. 1st @ 8pm pacific!
August 26th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
JB Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Raccoon = Troll, just disregard comments.
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August 26th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I got a few spots left on my FFL….anyone??
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Sure send me the info.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Up yours you numnuts. You don’t know who I am, only that I routinely kick your asses around on here because your posts are so lightweight. You have no response other then to see conspiracies everywhere.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Light as feather, that what you guys bring to the table. If your girlfriends/spouses knew what little ammo you were packing they’d up and leave you.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Samson Satele needs to get more respect in this place. Don’t know why people in here don’t like him.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
I think a person can be in non-agreement with what Al does and not be MR. I doubted Ohioraider to be MR from the start. Al cannot please everybody all the time, nor does he aim to.
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August 26th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Hiram was a bad azzed special teamer!!
Will be missed in that capacity, and when you start losing core special teamers, that means other guys who aren’t used to playing have to maybe rotate in, which could lead to more injuries……….
Point is, we are better football team with Hiram Eugene on the roster (bottom of the roster of course) than not on it.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Samson Satele needs to get more respect in this place. Don’t know why people in here don’t like him.
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Simple.
People in here associate him as a “Cable” guy, for whatever reason.
August 26th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
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Looks like JB too.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
HA!
I hate the Chiefs!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
The Rams are fortunate to have M.Faulk in the booth – He does good color commentary.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Agreed Big Ted.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I think a person can be in non-agreement with what Al does and not be MR. I doubted Ohioraider to be MR from the start. Al cannot please everybody all the time, nor does he aim to.
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
just discovered a TX High School Football team that wears uniforms just like the Raiders. They even have the Shield on the helmet.
Don’t tell Al Davis… he will sue.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Dirty Racoon, is a true Brother on this blog.
A real member of the NATION…
August 26th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
LMAO – KC looked hopeless!
except for those 2 ints that turned into 10pts. They were gifted those points and still lost!
I know, I know, Preseason!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
I hope our offense is clicking on Sunday, we are awfully thin on Defense.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Actually Indiana, I got no problem with JB. I think someone was using his name to stir the pot.
Thanks Thec07, you too bro.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Many of us gave Mr. Hiram Eugene some flack for his defensive play, arguably some of it was deserved (not the personal attacks though); his play on special teams is one of the major reasons Raiders swept the division last year; he will be missed.
Get healthy, you are still young; see you in 2012!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
GO C-FRANK!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Actually Indiana, I got no problem with JB. I think someone was using his name to stir the pot.
Thanks Thec07, you too bro.
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Its crazy how darren sharper is still on the market
August 26th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
MR is out getting a laminated print-out of today’s Kiffin Rant.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
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GO C-FRANK!
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Add Lance Kitten to the list!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Samson Satele needs to get more respect in this place. Don’t know why people in here don’t like him.
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Simple.
People in here associate him as a “Cable” guy, for whatever reason.
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Well Hue just got finished calling him one of the leaders on the team, so that’s big coming from the leader of this team. Hope the O-line works itself out by Sept 12. Definitely the biggest concern to me. That and linebackers.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
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GO C-FRANK!
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I picked Chris Francis as my MUP awhile back because I liked his highlight reel, and I knew that OLB would be a position of need.
Other than assisting on the FF in preweek1, he hasn’t done anything of note. He will likely get waived if he doesn’t do something to impress in these last two weeks.
Q.Groves could be good, but you can tell he burns too much Hi-Grade. Jah provides, but he hasn’t kept his eyes on the prize.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
@WilliamsonNFL Matt Williamson
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Wish the Raiders would have signed this guy.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Thinking of Hiram reminds me of the stat that only one team blocked 2 punts last season. The Raiders.
I think Hiram blocked one, and than recovered the other.
Hiram produced more punt blocks and recoveries than half of the league’s team (I believe less than 20 teams had punt blocks last season).
August 26th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
R8eray Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I got a few spots left on my FFL….anyone??
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August 26th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
@19 when’s the draft?
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
People dislike Satele because he sucked, and got benched for a rookie LT.
That incident seems to have lit a fire under his ass, because he has since look improved. I believe he was brought in as insurance, but beat the rookie wiz outright for the starting C position.
Has nothing to do with Cable imo. Cable was the guy that benched him in the first place.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
43.oakland oakland Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
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Too funny!
August 26th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Hiram is indeed great on ST, but also a liability as a safety.
Sam Williams is also a great ‘teamer, but I don’t look forward to seeing him start at MLB this weekend.
Best of luck to Hiram Eugene – Get well soon.
August 26th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Would have really liked to see Goethel get some time as 1st team MLB. Damned shame.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
60.BigTed707 Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
People dislike Satele because he sucked, and got benched for a rookie LT.
That incident seems to have lit a fire under his ass, because he has since look improved. I believe he was brought in as insurance, but beat the rookie wiz outright for the starting C position.
Has nothing to do with Cable imo. Cable was the guy that benched him in the first place.
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Very true.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
If we had lost 1 game to SD last year, KC would not have made the playoffs.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Eugene carved out a niche as a dependable special teams player in recent seasons, especially on punt and kick coverage. Several players are vying for the role now.
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Go C-FRANK!
August 26th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Q:Any last words Hue on how you think the season will go?
A: I’m just happy coach Davis gave me a shot to lead a team to the promise land.
Q: Where is the promise land this year Hue Is it 8-8?
A:coach Davis say’s “you and JC better make the playoffs or it’s another wierd press confernce with Al Suanders as head coach of the Oakland Raiders next year”
August 26th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Coach Davis –
Find us an athletic specimen to play OLB!
Thanks!
August 26th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Satele isn’t the best C in the worl but I’m damn glad we have him because it’s not about how great he is as an individual player it’s about his ability to get us lined and assigned. He does a damn good job of that.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
We have one his name is Trevor Scott he has to get the job done and I think he will. When he got hurt last year it looked as if he might have a good year then he went down with the injury.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
TJ
Do you think they’ll rotate Trevor Scott to OLB? Al downs? or 3rd downs? Or what?
August 26th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Is this game blacked out? Anybody
August 26th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I’m pretty sure it’s blacked out. KICU ch. 36 doesn’t show a delayed taping of the game. So, a replay on NFL channel may be the only way to see it. Better yet, buy a ticket. I think they are now running a two for one price deal. It was on FB the other day.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
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August 26th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I think Scott has to man that spot all 3 downs it’s the only position on the team he can play they tried him at SLB and he failed they tried him at DE and he failed he better hold the WLB spot down or I think he’s in trouble of getting cut. He better impress Sunday……….or else.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
TJ – Good insight. Let’s hope he’s successful for everybody’s benefit – except Groves.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
JB during preseason they always show a tape delayed game later that night which ends in the regular season. It’s why I signed up for NFL rewind so I can see blacked out games even if I go to the game.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
I encountered a new phenomena after the AZ game. In the past my seats were always on the west side. This year I’m on the East side. Watching a replay is like watching a different game. All the TV feeds are on the west side so that the replay’s perspective. It’s very interesting and information to get a different view of plays. You remember the plays but the looks are totally different.
August 26th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
perspective is different
informative
August 26th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Just wondering,some are in to polls on this blog,so who will be at this game?And how many have BOUGHT Season Tickets?Gut feeling is MOST on the blog wont be at the NO game,nor have they bought season tickets!If you want to see the GAME,GO!!Nothing better than live,period
August 26th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
2 season tickets Club section 240
August 26th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I live in SD…I have tickets for Jets, KC, and Det…
I will also be at the SD game….
August 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
good for you Thec – great support!
August 26th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
JB Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
good for you Thec – great support!
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Least I can do…This team is on the verge…
August 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Oh,not directed at out of state fans,of course!Or out of work fans,MUCH of the PROBLEM
August 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
hendu Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Oh,not directed at out of state fans,of course!Or out of work fans,MUCH of the PROBLEM
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Yeah the economy is totally out of whack…
I am in San Diego, so i should attend some home games and support this team…
August 26th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
The Raiders radio station is doing a promo for the NE and Jets game… buy 1 get 1 free.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Dahl adds much needed attitude
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He would have been a nice addition. I do think we are going to be pretty solid on the Oline…
I am not concerned about our Offense, when its all said and done we will be a top 5 O….
August 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Coach Davis –
Find us an athletic specimen to play OLB!
Thanks!
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Seriously the Raiders should talk to Mr. Gordon about playing some defense.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Priest I do think Mr. Scott has the backup DE position along with Mr. Moss locked up.
Both will only play on long passing situations.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Raiders now have 88 players on their roster, 13 will be cut pr placed on IR.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
I see on the depth chart he’s backing up Houston but man he brings zero pressure on his side unless he has added certain skills to his skillset then we are in trouble because he is a lousy pass rusher from a 3pt stance. I rather see him come free more in a elephant position from different angles.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
What up Nation? Can’t wait for the season to start and this preseason to end. I think we have a good schedule getting the Donkey’s and Bills early and neither in December.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
First off, I want to thank all of you who accuse OhioRaider and Alex7 of being me, because they’re far smarter than I am.
Secondly, anyone hear about Kiffin’s comments today? Said the same thing Gannon did, that it’s impossible to win here. That’s now Gannon, Sapp, DeAngelo Hall, Shane Lechler, Lane Kiffin…the witness list is adding up.
August 26th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
Secondly, anyone hear about Kiffin’s comments today? Said the same thing Gannon did, that it’s impossible to win here. That’s now Gannon, Sapp, DeAngelo Hall, Shane Lechler, Lane Kiffin…the witness list is adding up.
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Looks more like the peanut gallery to me
August 26th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Here’s the Raiders’ part of Kiffin’s interview:
In retrospect, was going to Oakland an unwinnable situation?
It is almost impossible. I don’t know why I didn’t listen, [because] so many people told me that. That’s why, if you ask [Steve Sarkisian], he didn’t go. He had a chance to go. You’re just so far behind other clubs. You’re waiting for [owner Al Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions that the rest of the league is making at 6 o’clock in the morning. You’re still running videotapes over to the hotel so he can watch practice at night.
The overhead projector Al Davis used during the news conference he held after your firing seems like kind of a metaphor for how he runs the Raiders. Would you agree?
Yeah, it was. It was sad, really, to see somebody who’s accomplished so much in his career and been such a powerful figure in the NFL … to see that was actually pretty sad to watch. But you’re exactly right, an overhead projector — that describes the pace that you’re dealing with of the way an organization is being run.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/31208/lane-kiffin-dishes-on-oakland-experience
August 26th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
I think winning in Oakland all depends on your perspective as the HC. If you see Al as a resource and mentor while having your own identity (and brass balls), the team can respect you and so will Al.
But you must win or you’re gone.
Gruden – respect from both
Callahan – lost respect from both
Turner – lost respect from Al
Shell – puppet
Kiffin – respect from team, disrespected Al
Cable – respect from team, not from AL
Hue – we’ll see
August 26th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Do what’s the scoop on Lito? Is he here just for pre season, or is he for real.? I know he “has been” very good, but how bout now? Did he play Man much?
August 26th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Sweep, that was the best Raiders organization analysys I have ever read (#97), accurate, simple and directly to the point.
August 26th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
I think Mr. Jackson has earned Mr. Davis’ respect and the teams. It’s either that or Al is really worse for the wear in terms of health, the fact that he was never at practice, not a good sign; almost as bad as T.V. networks showing him with a towel on his lap, every game.
August 26th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Anyone who’d listen to Kiffin is lost…………..period
August 26th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Mr D knew he hired petty child and regretted it from that day forward he tried to make it work or look good but that kid wanted everything his way. So he found a way to get rid of him and not pay him. Exactly what he deserved.
August 26th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
We’ve gotten better every year since he was fired.
August 26th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Just watched some T. Pryor highlights.
He has a good pocket awareness and touch on deep passes.
Now I see why he fits here, he will be the starter next year barring a miraculous 2011 from J. Campbell.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:01 am
Give Pryor time guys let the kid grow he’s 22 years old why heap a ton of pressure on that kid before he’s ready JC is a very capable QB. It’s not a requirment for all the fans to like you the only requirement is to win.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:07 am
JC is an average QB, has some good days, some bad.
Pryors’ upside is much, much higher.
The pressure is comin’. You need a real QB to win big.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:08 am
I cannot wait to see Taiwan Jones for him to make me wait this long isn’t fair. I waiting all through the lockout and now all of camp and still haven’t seen him. Damn boy make sure you put some stank on it come Sunday. Do the boogaloo the way we used to do it back in the day. Show them boys they aint seen nothin yet and it’s here to stay.
Go Raiders like nobody else………..period
August 27th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Kiffin was young and inexperienced and Al should have realized that from the beginning. That was Al’s mistake. When Sarkisian passed up the job, Kiffen took a home run swing and landed the job. Just “pay-wise” he was a winner. From assistant offensive coordinator to head coach. Can’t blame him for taking the job. Probably about 10 times the salary increase.
Also, in all fairness to Kiffin, he was against the JaFatazz draft choice and is on record as being against it. But, Al thought, JaFatazz was the next coming of John Elway. Also, Kiffin tried to get rid of and and even tried to fire “fatazz Rob Ryan (mr prevent defense himself) but Al stopped it and that’s when things really started going down hill.
It’s a good bet that when we drafted JaFatazz and had Rob Ryan as our defensive coordinator (4 yrs no less) that NO MATTER WHO ARE HEAD COACH would have been, we were going to lose. A major bust at QB who cost us millions, and even held out, plus one of the worst DC around the league.
There are other reasons I’m sure that added to the mess, but you’re wrong (in my opinion) if you feel that Al Davis didn’t play a big part in this mess.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:11 am
We don’t reaally know what JC can do because the dude has faced stiff opposition his entire career. he’s in the same system for once and has a mentor he understand and trust and who undeestands and trust him. Al Saunders said he came here because of JC and I believ that and it’s all I need to hear JC obviously recruited him and he came so we’ll see what that brings. Way too early to write the book on JC.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Priestt can’t blame people for being excited Pryor is a Specimen so dripping with talent its unreal, Campbell has a ton of weapons and Hue Jackson so were good to go.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2011 at 12:13 am
In fairness to Kiffin he was a punk of all punks……………period I hate that dude because he came here with alterior motives that much is clear. he came here because he sought to buffalo an old man and take his team.
if you can’t see that then I can’t help ya’
August 27th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Dmac,Bush,Jones,Reece man that is a explosive backfield !
August 27th, 2011 at 12:15 am
My gut says JC will never be great.
He CAN be very good, but it requires the running game and good pass protection. He will never do it despite those factors.
He has a slow delivery and reaction time.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am
No one and I mean no one is more excited than I am about Pryor I touted him for the Raiders B4 anyone even thought of it. I went nuts when we got him and i still cannot believe they did it. So no need to tell me I watch his game films all the time. I have him in 6 games on DVR he’s a beast…………..period
August 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am
alterior?
You mean ulterior.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:18 am
he doesn’t have to be great he has to be very good and I think he can be. He’s a lot better than a lot of QB’s that have won SB’s. Rex grossman went to a SB and Trent Dilfer won one. Don’t tell me JC isn’t head and shoulders better than those two jokers.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Trent Dilfer had a unbelievable defense though. Not to mention Jamal Lewis in his prime.
I think JC compares with Dilfer- both are decent QB’s.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Priesttj…post 111:
I’m sure most of us in here enjoy your comments and opinions…I surely do. And, I agree with most of your takes. So we’ll agree to disagree in regard to the Kiffin mess because it sure turned out to be a mess.
You closed your take by saying that if I can’t see it your way on Kiffin…then you couldn’t help me. Thanks but I don’t need you help.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:24 am
That joker that beat us in 2002 couldn’t carry JC’s jock but he won because they protected him with the running game and short dink and dunk passes.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:27 am
If you believe anything that comes outta that fools mouth trust me you’re misguided.He’s a pathylogical liar anything he says take it with a grain of salt forget the stuff here I’m just tellin ya’. I talked to too many people who dealt with him on a dailey basis he’s one sick puppy.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:28 am
It was 2000, and I don’t see JC as much better than him. He is more mobile, but Dilfer was pretty accurate and a good decision maker.
Why do you think JC is so far ahead of him?
August 27th, 2011 at 12:29 am
priesttj Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
We’ve gotten better every year since he was fired.
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I’ll do you one better. We’ve gotten better every year since he was HIRED.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:31 am
Mr D has made HUGE misakes there is no getting around it he never should’ve hired that kid and he never should’ve fired Norv Turner IMO. He should’ve mad eArt Shell get a better OC because he never believed in Tom Walsh but he let Art hire him.
Mr D is at full fault for the last 10 years but that has nothing to do with Kiffin being very sick. trust me
August 27th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Cable was our head coach last year, he was on Kiffin’s staff. He was the only remaining link to Kiffin. So, we got better from the time Kiffin was hired, to the time the last remaining coach on Kiffin’s staff was fired. There’s some facts for your azz.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Al Davis said Kiffin was better than Gruden when he hired him. You’re not going to find a person on the planet, Davis hater or otherwise, who has, or ever had, more praise for Lane Kiffin than Al Davis did when he hired him.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:39 am
Priest what kind of Boogaloo did you use to do back in the day?
The James Brown Boogaloo, or the Popping and Locking kind of Boogaloo.
Here in Oakland, the OG’s had a dance called the Boogaloo that was the precursor to a lot of the popular street dances that the kids do today associated with Hip Hop and is seen all over tv…
August 27th, 2011 at 12:46 am
Beat Street is the king of the beat
You see him rockin’ that beat from across the street
Beat street is a lesson too,
‘Cause you can’t beat the street, if the street beats you.
WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2011 at 12:58 am
Naw man my boogaloo is from the 60’s james brown, camel walk, hand jive and stuff like that.
August 27th, 2011 at 1:14 am
McNabb, Freeman, and Rodgers are athletic qbs who were known for their PASSING on college, specifically their accuracy.
Pryor, joe webb, pat white, tebow… athletic qbs whose passing skills needed to be DEVELOPED.
Not good odds with the second group.
Newton is in the first. Breaking sec pass efficiency records is no joke.
August 27th, 2011 at 1:22 am
I like how ohio raider, raider ray, sullivan, myself and others get linked together simply because we dont drink the kool aid.
Based on the worst 7-year stretch run in nfl history, it’s a compliment to be on that list.
August 27th, 2011 at 1:52 am
114.priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am
No one and I mean no one is more excited than I am about Pryor I touted him for the Raiders B4 anyone even thought of it. I went nuts when we got him and i still cannot believe they did it. So no need to tell me I watch his game films all the time. I have him in 6 games on DVR he’s a beast…………..period
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I touted him from before he went to Ohio. He is the beast. I am the Walrus.
August 27th, 2011 at 2:00 am
LA to TheBay Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Cable said lines and secondary, so don’t be surprised to see us take Eric Berry at 8 and make some sort of trade (player or pick) to grab Campbell in the mid to late first, 2nd if he slides.
Maybe go after ILB and grab an OT in later rounds.
Cable gets what he wants this year, I think. O Line and D Line and MLB. Al gets his next shutdown CB project and maybe that Ford kid who had the fastest 40 time and everyone’s happy.
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
How’s the weather in Podunk? Possum season comin up soon, lol.
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mis 40’s and sunny all week. awesome!
possum season? no such thing. if you see one, kill it
never ate possum. did have BBQ Raccoon before though. tasted pretty good actually
turkey season coming up the last weekend in April. I may not get to see Al Davis pull the trigger on Bruce Campbell or Jacoby Ford!
DKnight007 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Raider O Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I have to go, but Noodle arm GarbageKowski is not the answer!
Damn you Mich!!
lol
I almost Forgot, BOO!
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I don’t think anyone has concluded Grads is the answer at QB….but is there anyone better than him on the current roster??
Sadly….there isn’t…
DKnight007 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
stats are for losers.
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Debo: way to quote Pats HC Bill Belichick!
you got one of his signature hooded sweatshirts as well?
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No…drafting height, weight, speed track stars who ahead of REAL instinctive and tough FOOTBALL players is for LOSERS!
LA to TheBay Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
“…see Al Davis pull the trigger on Bruce Campbell or Jacoby Ford!”
Lol, so its not just me who sees this as a forgone conclusion.
Cable could use the most athletic (combine)OT ever and I don’t know if Al can resist the fasted 40 time for an O Lineman or the fastest 40 time period.
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Cable gets what he wants this year, I think. O Line and D Line and MLB.
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LA to TheBay: when did Cable say we need a new MLB, or any LB for that matter?
LA to TheBay Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
“No…drafting height, weight, speed track stars who ahead of REAL instinctive and tough FOOTBALL players is for LOSERS!”
For what it’s worth, Cable addressed that notion and said they would take the best football player available and this stuff doesn’t neccecarily equal a good football player.
I’m sure this will apply in rounds 3-7. Hard to believe for the first two.
Thec07 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
February 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Makes sense to me. If Mr. davis was paying me in some way shape or form i would defend also…lol
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No, I’m not paid by the Raiders. But, if you asked me my own history, I graduated with a four year degree at 20, bought a house at 19 which is paid off, had a public corporation at 26, and I do what I want from the age of 29 on. The question still stands….what have you ever done?
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Wow, Seymour Bush….you just proved to be an even bigger jerk and douche than what most us already thought before.
The thing is NOBODY asked you what you did….ya Douche….and guess what….NOBODY gives a crap!
We all have our own little ego building uccess stories in some way shape or form and we all have our own screw ups.
So, in the final analysis….you “may” have graduated when you were 20….and you “may” bought a house at 19 and allegedly paid it off…(i wonder if mommy and daddy might have paid if off for you hmm?) and you “may” have a successful corporation in a down economy no less?
Howvever, by divulging all this to us on here WITHOUT anyone asking and NOBODY on here CARING…..shows your not very bright and not very mature either are you?
Ya Idiot….
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Yep……
DKnight007 Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 10:27 am
we’ll have a chance to upgrade the interior D-Line in Rounds 1 & 2 in the draft …
Dan Williams (DT Tennessee) 6′2″ 329 lbs
Brian Price (DT UCLA) 6′2″ 300 lbs
Terrence Cody (DT Alabama) 6′4″ 354 lbs
Lamarr Houston (DT Texas) 6′3″ 302 lbs
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Lamarr Houston in Round 2 would be a great pick!
LA to TheBay Says:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
LA to TheBay: when did Cable say we need a new MLB, or any LB for that matter?
He told us in camp last year when he had Morrison splitting time with Ricky.
Just my opinion, but I don’t think Cable or anyone is sold on Kirk in the middle.
August 27th, 2011 at 2:01 am
Some of us have this Semi Pro sh;t nailed.
August 27th, 2011 at 3:27 am
Alex7 Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 1:22 am
I like how ohio raider, raider ray, sullivan, myself and others get linked together simply because we dont drink the kool aid.
Based on the worst 7-year stretch run in nfl history, it’s a compliment to be on that list.
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the question is why the fu** are u here? why spend all ur frre time onthe raiders board when u don’t like them? i mean get a life!
August 27th, 2011 at 3:29 am
as for kiffin, he was an idiot. a weakling. ever listen to him talk? he kinda half-whispers. how al davis got swindled by that tool is beyond me b/c he usually has good instincts for coaches. but his post-gruden run has not been good until hue.
all kiffin could talk about was the projector? who cares?
kiffin is a liar and opportunist who has never done anything remarkable whatsoever.
August 27th, 2011 at 3:33 am
as for satele, the reason so many here think he is weak, is b/c he is weak! he gets pushed around. but as i said a couple weeks ago, he is still young and he could improve. seems like he’s doing an adequate job right now.
trevor scott? he’s a tweener. too light to stand the play coming at him. not quite quick or instinctive enuff to go get plays away. he can rush the passer though. but he is young too. he could get better. but he doesn’t seem to be in the mix at lb.
we need help at LB! that unit sux!
August 27th, 2011 at 4:57 am
“I remember the first game I did, which was 2008, Monday night, Denver at Oakland, that was unbelievable,” Miller said. “I saw officers assaulted right in front of me, people tased, people bleeding, it was terrible, and I’ve been in law enforcement for years. I thought, ‘This is just not acceptable, we have got to get ahold of this.’ Last year when I went and watched that same game, I didn’t see one assault on an officer, didn’t see hardly a need for even an arrest.”
August 27th, 2011 at 5:17 am
PlunkforHOF Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pmI feel this should be called :
The Great Plunkett MR/RMR Stick Sock Puppet List, because it began with me asking who MR was today and Plunketthead beginning a list.
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Actually someone else started the list. I just added a name to it.
August 27th, 2011 at 5:20 am
And dont forget that Jerry has been running a trollbot here for almost a decade.
Click on some old archives and read the post. His first trollbot was japanese.
August 27th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Just under 4 hours left
August 27th, 2011 at 5:46 am
I was curious who started the list and lo and behold MR started it
Dvprick Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
69.RaiderDuck Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
So besides Ohioraider, Sullivan44 and RAIDER, how many other sockpuppets does MR have?
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Beecham
charged up
alex 7 is suspect
ohio raider isn’t
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
Please feel free to add to the list.
thats just to name a few. probably another 30-50 names or so. there pretty easy to spot, there are a lot of similarities in dialogue and mannerisms.
August 27th, 2011 at 6:09 am
TAtupu anyone???
August 27th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Dredging up year and a half old posts? Some of you really have no life.
August 27th, 2011 at 6:28 am
No better way to prepare for the fantasy draft of the decade, than going and shooting some hoops at the park.
J Wiggle is my week 1 opponent soon to be crushed!!
August 27th, 2011 at 6:43 am
That post was yesterday.
I dont want to get the props for something I didnt do
August 27th, 2011 at 7:11 am
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Beecham
charged up
alex 7 is suspect
ohio raider isn’t
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in paradise
hagar the horrible
Raider
August 27th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Mornin Nation
August 27th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Morning Cain
That list you used is not the updated one
Heres the latest list without any additions you may have made
SilverNutsack
Master Beeecham
Charged Up
Alex 7
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
RAIDER
Sullivan44
RealMaddenRaider
RealGradkowskiRaider
Mike the Moderator
Raider Ray
August 27th, 2011 at 7:47 am
You guys are forgetting StrahanMan.
“I gets mine!!”
Also:
MR
Gust372
August 27th, 2011 at 7:48 am
We need a checklist to get on the UnReal Moron Raider list
1) hates Al with a passion
2) loves Lane K
3) makes lame poop jokes
4) loves Bruce, T.C., Sapphead, Gannon, etc
5) Berates Al and the team 24/7/365
August 27th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Well I guess it was inevitable they were going to put him on ir; hip dislocation is pretty nasty stuff. Stevie Brown is suspect I don’t know if he can step up but somebody’s gonna have to pick it up. We definitely need some leadership in the secondary
August 27th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Morning Cain
That list you used is not the updated one
Heres the latest list without any additions you may have made
SilverNutsack
Master Beeecham
Charged Up
Alex 7
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
RAIDER
Sullivan44
RealMaddenRaider
RealGradkowskiRaider
Mike the Moderator
Raider Ray
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Remember to add Ohioraider (while he gets snippy and insulting when someone suggests he’s MR, you will notice he never ever denies it).
August 27th, 2011 at 7:51 am
SilverNutsack
Master Beeecham
Charged Up
Alex 7
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
RAIDER
Sullivan44
RealMaddenRaider
RealGradkowskiRaider
Mike the Moderator
Raider Ray
StrahanMan
MR
Gust372
August 27th, 2011 at 7:53 am
OR was on the list earlier
Add him to it
August 27th, 2011 at 7:53 am
I have to get back to work on my FF draft lineup
August 27th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 7:51 am
SilverNutsack
Master Beeecham
Charged Up
Alex 7
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
RAIDER
Sullivan44
RealMaddenRaider
RealGradkowskiRaider
Mike the Moderator
Raider Ray
StrahanMan
MR
Gust372
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Hagar The Horrible
plunkett for HOF
August 27th, 2011 at 7:55 am
SilverNutsack
Master Beeecham
Charged Up
Alex 7
Dvrick
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
RAIDER
Sullivan44
RealMaddenRaider
RealGradkowskiRaider
Mike the Moderator
Raider Ray
StrahanMan
MR
Gust372
Ohioraider
August 27th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Dvrick is to dumb to be MR
August 27th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Gels World Famous Oakland Raiders FFL gets bigger, stronger, faster and meaner every year.
I had to step up my game this year.
If you are thinking about attempting to get your name added to the maybe list you better be dedicated and have skills
just saying….
August 27th, 2011 at 8:19 am
here are some fantasy draft value picks for ya:
qb: josh freeman—25 td/6 int last year and should be even better this year. #11 picked qb on average.
rb: peyton hillis—people aren’t sure b/c he only has one big year. being drafted around pick 25. he is the browns offense. lots of carries, lots of catches, lots of td’s. no reason to think he won’t do it again.
ryan grant—being picked about 50. was a bigtime back 2 years ago. catches the ball, scores td’s. healthy again. forgotten man.
wr: d.owe/b.lloyd—i don’t like to pick chiefs or broncos but these guy were huge last year and are being picked way too late. no reason to think they won’t do it again.
te: c.cooley—being picked very late for a guy who always produces. concerns about injury but the skins will need him.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:21 am
I think the Raiders will wait for the cuts after week 3 of the preseason. At that point, they might pick up veteran from another team that can still play, but cut because of his high salary. I saw a report previously about Tatupu looking too over weight, that could be why Oakland stayed away from signing him. Morrison would have been a good choice, but management must have seen enough of him the first time around.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:27 am
cuts after week 3 usually resemble what ours will look like. a bunch of nothing. just obvious cuts of roster fodder, like wand, francis, adeniji, etc. it won’t be until the final cuts that there will be guys out there. but there won’t be any gems. or at least doubtful. maybe an LB version of lito sheppard–a guy who is pat his prime but could give us some sort of veteran ability to play the position. but at this point, i would take 3 or 4 of those types of LB’s. i mean seriously, we don’t have a real LB on our roster right now.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Former Baltimore 3rd round pick G/T Oniel Cousins was cut yesterday, maybe his former coach Hue Jackson would like to take a look at this guy.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Gels World Famous Oakland Raiders FFL gets bigger, stronger, faster and meaner every year.
I had to step up my game this year.
If you are thinking about attempting to get your name added to the maybe list you better be dedicated and have skills
just saying….
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Is It too late to sin up for the FFL
August 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Interesting that Cousins goes into camp competing for the starting RT spot, and then gets dumped in the first round of cuts…
August 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Patriots’ third-round pick Ryan Mallett was reportedly up “all-night partying” during the NFL Players Association rookie symposium in July.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6470/player?r=1
August 27th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Marley,
Ready to Roll? FFL style
August 27th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Gels is full but someone else had one last night. Go back through the thread
August 27th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Ready Dell….
I posted a note about defensive player strategy on the league’s page for anyone interested….
August 27th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Marley,
Yes indeed, it was smart strategy. Thanks
August 27th, 2011 at 8:46 am
As for Cousins, he bombed as a RT and they moved him to G last week, then they cut him.
I say let’s take a look at the guy as a G, Hue should know if the kid has potential.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Patriots’ third-round pick Ryan Mallett was reportedly up “all-night partying” during the NFL Players Association rookie symposium in July.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6470/player?r=1
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Am I only one thrilled that we DIDN’T take this guy? Dude’s a thinner, white JaMarcus: more concerned with partying and “thuggin’ it” than putting in the work.
Wanna know what Tom Brady was doing while Mallett was partying? Brady was STUDYING.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Speaking of the Ravens, did anyone notice all the ZBS they were running?
August 27th, 2011 at 8:52 am
I Bet Tom was knee deep in Gisele
Studying is right
August 27th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Plunketthead Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 8:52 am
I Bet Tom was knee deep in Gisele
Studying is right
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I mean AFTER Gisele, he was studying…
August 27th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Got the key to victory already.
Chorizo and green chile, breakfast burrito from Twisters.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Mallet was sporting some serious meth-mouth during his Gruden QB camp thing.
Either he smokes two packs a day, never seen a dentist in his life, or does some serious hard drugs.
You don’t get little grey teeth like that at 22 without some help.
August 27th, 2011 at 8:58 am
“Dude’s a thinner, white JaMarcus”
Except the Patriots aren’t guaranteeing him $32 million to party and thug it. They have a much more intelligent front office than that.
August 27th, 2011 at 9:12 am
As for Lito Sheppard, hope he’s the latest “over the hill” former Pro Bowl CB who gives us a couple of quality seasons.
Albert Lewis and Eric Allen come to mind, but in Sheppard’s case it really looks like a longshot and he needs to stay healthy if he’s going to show something.
Hard to belive Sheppard is the same age as Nnamdi since he seems to have been around a lot longer….at least he’s experienced in man coverage, he must have been lost playing in Leslie Frazier’s Cover 2 based scheme last year.
August 27th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Cant get into the draft for Dells league… this is rather annoying
August 27th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Raiding-thanks to a rookie wage scale that is in effect partly due to the bust.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Some of you have continued to post that we should have gotten Kirk Morrison. He’s on the radio on weekends, sometimes during the week as well on 57am radio, Los Angeles, and he said on his show that he did talk to the Raiders, but he went to buffalo, because his best friend, Merriman (ex-dischargers) kept pushing him to come on board there. Plus, and more important to him, Morrison said he would be playing MLB at Buffalo and he didn’t want to play OLB with us as that’s not his “feel-good-position.”
August 27th, 2011 at 10:18 am
135.rob_raider Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 3:29 am
as for kiffin, he was an idiot. a weakling. ever listen to him talk? he kinda half-whispers. how al davis got swindled by that tool is beyond me b/c he usually has good instincts for coaches. but his post-gruden run has not been good until hue.
all kiffin could talk about was the projector? who cares?
kiffin is a liar and opportunist who has never done anything remarkable whatsoever.
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Sure, uh huh, whatever you say. Blaming the messenger (who was only articulating what everybody in the league won’t say) won’t save this franchise from Davis’ inept leadership.
As for being “swindled,” Davis gets swindled by players he mis-evaluates all the time. See, for example: JaMarcus Russell.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Ohioraider…many more names come to mind, but for sure Javon (I’ll spray people on the dance floor with $1500.00 bottles of champaine, 10 bottles worth) Walker and De Angelo etc.
People will say what they want and I’m not defending Kiffin, but Al Davis hired the inexperienced kid. And, you must give credit to Kiffin for “begging” Davis NOT TO DRAFT JaFatazz and he also tried to get rid of, and then fire Rob “Mr prevent defense, himself” Ryan, but Davis wouldn’t let him. Ya, for 4 years Rob Ryan was our DC and we were constantly ranked among the 5 worst defenses.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Hagar The Horrible Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 10:27 am
You must give credit to Kiffin for “begging” Davis NOT TO DRAFT JaFatazz and he also tried to get rid of, and then fire Rob “Mr prevent defense, himself” Ryan, but Davis wouldn’t let him.
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I’d Kiffin more credit, except that the player he wanted instead of JaBustus was…Brady Quinn. Hardly an improvement.
As for Ryan, he’s had two more DC gigs since he left Oakland, so Al’s hardly the only one who saw him as a good coordinator. I’m not saying he IS a good DC, mind you, just that not everyone thinks he sucks.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Hagar,
Al has been around a long time. His 1st 20 years he was the top GM in the league. His teams were iconic.
Unfortunately, his last 25 years have not gone well. His teams have been lethargic…
There are those who believe that AL can reprise the last last 20 years here soon while others feel the last 25 are indicative of future results.
Regardless of ones position, Al Davis owns the team and has the right to run it anyway he feels like.
He’s a great GM in totality. However, there is no denying he’s the boss and he is 100% responsible for the horrible performance the last 20 years.
I still think he can pull a team together. However, iuts going to take longer for Al Davis because he’s stubborn and is going to do it his way. And with his way you are getting coaching turnover and a focus on players with potential over production.
The NUMBER 1 thing Al can do to get this team right is to halt the coaching turnover. The single most destructive thing he’s done and the biggest difference between the 1st 20 and the last 20 years.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Wow, trying to white wash JaFatass who is considered the biggest bust of all times. You should have said that maybe Ryan Leaf was comparable. And, if your record says you stink, and you’ve always been at the botton, it doesn’t mean you’re elevated because other teams make the same mistake and hire you. Evidently you didn’t see all the games that Ryan lost for us in the 4th quarter with his prevent defense, which only prevents you from winning. If Roy Ryan wasn’t the son of Buddy Ryan, he probably wouldn’t have made it into the NFL as a coach.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Just for kicks ..watched Cam Newton vs Terrelle Pryor clips. Generally the same type of QB – big, physical, good arms and can run.
While I’m not gitty about either (I actually think Cam will be a Bust); I think Pryor is actually the better QB prospect. And he went 3rd round vs #1 – great job by the Raiders.
Cam is a runner more than a QB. Pryor is a QB first then tries to run. He looks downfield more and he doesn’t just tuck and run.
Pryor has a stronger arm than Cam and a better delivery. They both need to work on mechanics. But Pryor looks better throwing the ball. He has a higher release. You can tell his mechanics are all off and he muscles the ball deep or in a window. Thats impressive because if they do get his mechanics right watch out.
Its quite telling when you look at their ‘highlights’, Cam is more entertainment than real QB play, he’s always running – not a lot of passing. Pryor’s highlights have a ton of passing that you can actually get a better feel of his abilities throwing – the essence of the QB position.
Most importantly, Pryor is in a much better situation than Newton. He is closer to being a ‘real’ QB than Cam and while they both need development Pryor can actually take the time to develop (delivery motion, footwork, progression reads, all the mechanics). Cam is going to be rushed in and he’s not even close to ready to be a NFL QB.
I would put my money on Pryor to have a better pro career.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Hagar The Horrible Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Wow, trying to white wash JaFatass who is considered the biggest bust of all times. You should have said that maybe Ryan Leaf was comparable.
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No, I was not trying to whitewash JaMarcus; for one thing, enough whitewash does not exist in the known universe.
My point was that you were implying that if Al has listened to Kiffin, we would’ve draft some great player instead of Russell. No, we would’ve drafted Brady Quinn, who threw the exact same number of passes last year as ol’ #2.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:51 am
SnB…I agree with you. Thos years with Madden (10 yrs) and those years with Flores (10) years, were the best in all of football. Our Monday night record of 14 wins out of 15 games will never be equaled. And, again, you’re right about the coaching problem the last two decades. And, when he had a good coach, one that started work every morning at 4am (JOHN GRUDEN) Al trades the dude and we lose the Super Bowl the next year. I still can’t figure that one out. Some people try and clean it up by saying Gruden wanted to leave. Ya, maybe, when the opportunity in Tampa opened up. BUT, the year before, Al could have renewed his contract with Gruden for another 3 or 4 or 5 years, but, no, Al waited and then traded him for his draft picks. Can’t remember the picks, I only remember our Super Bowl loss and Barrett Robbins, who I’m constantly looking for when I’m driving…so that I can run him over.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Oh, and Pryor is faster than Cam. Not that it matters for QB position but if you’re going to run it ….
Considering all of this, its pretty crazy how Cam went 1 overall while Pryor goes in the 3rd round and is considered a “reach”
August 27th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I watched some Cam Newton preseason completions, and was NOT impressed.
He didn’t look off his primary receiver ONCE. Every play I saw, from the moment the ball was snapped, he was staring right at the guy he was gonna throw it to.
If he keeps doing that in the regular season, he’ll be throwing into triple coverage every single time.
August 27th, 2011 at 10:58 am
My recollection is that Kiffin wanted Calvin the wide receiver? But, if we get Brady Quinn, at least he wasn’t overly greedy, he signs and he’s productive that first year. Not JaFatass, he holds out, drinks that purple punch, buys fur coats, and goes on a down hill crash. Ya, I’ll run that dude over as well if I ever see him.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Gotta go guys, I’m going to Del Mar (where the turf meets the surf) and enjoy a day at the races. Races start at 2 pm and it takes one-and-a-half hours to drive there. The beers and the margaritas should be cold, the temperature cool (it’s on the beach) and the time spent there enjoyable…always is at Del Mar.
Go Raiders…and tomorrow will reveal alot.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I just didn’t get all the Cam Newton hype. He has the media at his back that for sure. I look at this guy play and was not impressed insofar as what I would look for in a NFL QB.
At least Pryor tries to be a QB and like Hue says, thinks like a QB.
If Pryor is as dedicated as has been reported and they get him the best coaching, he may actually to out to be something special at this level.
I believe all that will come (mechanics). My main concern would be his ability to read defenses or work through his progressions. I haven’t seen evidence yet to sway me either direction.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:08 am
More on the Terrelle vs. Cam discussion:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/822509-terrelle-pryor-vs-cam-newton-which-player-will-have-the-better-nfl-career
August 27th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Terrapin,
Cam Newton was drafted in the 1st round by scouts who saw that he had something worty of such. Terrell Pryor was allowed to “slip” to the third round of the 2012 draft…effectively.
What will determine their successes is not their speed and athelticism.
It will be mastery of the playbook and mastery of QB throwing mechanics and ability to read defenses.
Only then can they make their athleticism be worth anything. Gotta be able to master the QB position.
Vick only became a real threat when he got into that playbook.
Those guys have to do the same thing. And its not easy as most college QBs fail and only a few truly become good.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Looking for a Raiders tailgate in Houston Oct. 9th.
Anyone here know of anything happening?
August 27th, 2011 at 11:26 am
96.Sullivan44 Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Here’s the Raiders’ part of Kiffin’s interview:
In retrospect, was going to Oakland an unwinnable situation?
It is almost impossible. I don’t know why I didn’t listen, [because] so many people told me that. That’s why, if you ask [Steve Sarkisian], he didn’t go. He had a chance to go. You’re just so far behind other clubs. You’re waiting for [owner Al Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions that the rest of the league is making at 6 o’clock in the morning. You’re still running videotapes over to the hotel so he can watch practice at night.
The overhead projector Al Davis used during the news conference he held after your firing seems like kind of a metaphor for how he runs the Raiders. Would you agree?
Yeah, it was. It was sad, really, to see somebody who’s accomplished so much in his career and been such a powerful figure in the NFL … to see that was actually pretty sad to watch. But you’re exactly right, an overhead projector — that describes the pace that you’re dealing with of the way an organization is being run.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/31208/lane-kiffin-dishes-on-oakland-experience
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So Al wasn’t ready to do business til 2 in the aternoon? That tells me the cat is out partying til 6AM in the morning. WOW. But if he wants to manage the Raiders, he better get to bed a little earlier.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:28 am
186.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Hagar,
Al has been around a long time. His 1st 20 years he was the top GM in the league. His teams were iconic.
Unfortunately, his last 25 years have not gone well. His teams have been lethargic…
There are those who believe that AL can reprise the last last 20 years here soon while others feel the last 25 are indicative of future results.
Regardless of ones position, Al Davis owns the team and has the right to run it anyway he feels like.
He’s a great GM in totality. However, there is no denying he’s the boss and he is 100% responsible for the horrible performance the last 20 years.
I still think he can pull a team together. However, iuts going to take longer for Al Davis because he’s stubborn and is going to do it his way. And with his way you are getting coaching turnover and a focus on players with potential over production.
The NUMBER 1 thing Al can do to get this team right is to halt the coaching turnover. The single most destructive thing he’s done and the biggest difference between the 1st 20 and the last 20 years.
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Great post, as usual. But I’d like to add, if history goes in cycles, the next 20 years should be on the upswing for Al (yes, he will be around til he’s a 100) so I’m looking forward to it.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Kiffin’s recent comments about coaching for the Raiders:
“It is almost impossible. I don’t know why I didn’t listen, [because] so many people told me that. That’s why, if you ask [Steve Sarkisian], he didn’t go. He had a chance to go. You’re just so far behind other clubs. You’re waiting for [owner Al Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions that the rest of the league is making at 6 o’clock in the morning. You’re still running videotapes over to the hotel so he can watch practice at night….”
On Al’s press conference firing him, and the use of an overhead projector:
“….Yeah, it was. It was sad, really, to see somebody who’s accomplished so much in his career and been such a powerful figure in the NFL … to see that was actually pretty sad to watch. But you’re exactly right, an overhead projector — that describes the pace that you’re dealing with of the way an organization is being run.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/31208/lane-kiffin-dishes-on-oakland-experience
So, we have Rich Gannon (2 time MVP), Warren Sapp (future HOF), and now Lane Kiffin detailing the chaos and distractions that make it impossible to succeed with the Raiders. The witness list is growing.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:36 am
He won’t be missed on kickoff coverages with the new rules. SeaBass will easily boot the ball out of the endzone each and every kickoff.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Hue seems to be navigating the waters pretty well. So right now I don’t even care about what Kiffin has to say.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Terripin…..
Keeping dry back there?….
August 27th, 2011 at 11:40 am
OOPS! Sorry TerrApin for the mis-spell. Bloodymary hasn’t kicked in yet……
August 27th, 2011 at 11:40 am
LMAO!!! Kiffin is a non-factor.
His work speaks for itself. Oakland, Tenn, USC.
Every program he has been involved with have been average to poor.
Until he wins he should just shut the F up! Spoiled Daddy’s boy.
Al may be old school but what is the big deal of getting practice tape at 2 o’clock. I am sure Kiffin did not make the tape and run it to him. Kiffin’s excuses are old. Non-factor.
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201.Sullivan44 Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Kiffin’s recent comments about coaching for the Raiders:
“It is almost impossible. I don’t know why I didn’t listen, [because] so many people told me that. That’s why, if you ask [Steve Sarkisian], he didn’t go. He had a chance to go. You’re just so far behind other clubs. You’re waiting for [owner Al Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions that the rest of the league is making at 6 o’clock in the morning. You’re still running videotapes over to the hotel so he can watch practice at night….”
On Al’s press conference firing him, and the use of an overhead projector:
“….Yeah, it was. It was sad, really, to see somebody who’s accomplished so much in his career and been such a powerful figure in the NFL … to see that was actually pretty sad to watch. But you’re exactly right, an overhead projector — that describes the pace that you’re dealing with of the way an organization is being run.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/31208/lane-kiffin-dishes-on-oakland-experience
So, we have Rich Gannon (2 time MVP), Warren Sapp (future HOF), and now Lane Kiffin detailing the chaos and distractions that make it impossible to succeed with the Raiders. The witness list is growing.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:42 am
The witness list is adding up, Terrapin Raider.
When Sapp said it, it was just, “Aw, that’s just Warren Sapp. He’s always been the class clown. Nobody takes him seriously”.
Then Rich Gannon says it. He’s a former MVP, about as serious as they get.
Then Lane Kiffin says it. Even goes into detail, about Al’s laziness and how the Raiders couldn’t get anything done until the afternoon.
The witness list and the accusations are just growing and growing.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:49 am
BigTed707 Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
MR is out getting a laminated print-out of today’s Kiffin Rant.
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Probably already taped on the ceiling of his bedroom, next to the Gruden poster…..
August 27th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Sullivan44 Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Then Lane Kiffin says it. Even goes into detail, about Al’s laziness and how the Raiders couldn’t get anything done until the afternoon.
The witness list and the accusations are just growing and growing.
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And what about all the former coaches and players who recall speaking with him at 8AM most mornings?
Remember that Kiffin’s a liar.
Remember, also, that for the first time Gruden, we finally have a good head coach here. 11 wins this season is not outside the realm of possibility.
August 27th, 2011 at 11:50 am
*for the first time SINCE Gruden, I mean…
August 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
69.RaiderSuck Says:
August 26th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
So besides Ohioraider, Sullivan44 and RAIDER, how many other sockpuppets does MR have?
lefty alias mistic1
Beecham
charged up
alex 7 is suspect
ohio raider isn’t
Mistic1
Albert Bigelow Paine
89025 Raider
Raider in Paradise
plunketthead
Please feel free to add to the list.
thats just to name a few. probably another 30-50 names or so. there pretty easy to spot, there are a lot of similarities in dialogue and mannerisms.
JHill, if you think that mouth-diareah is funny beecham spews, you really need to check some values.
August 27th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
# r8dercain Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Dvrick is to smart to be MR
August 27th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
dvrick Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
JHill, if you think that mouth-diareah is funny beecham spews, you really need to check some values.
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Plunketthead Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 7:48 am
We need a checklist to get on the UnReal Moron Raider list
1) hates Al with a passion
2) loves Lane K
3) makes lame poop jokes
4) loves Bruce, T.C., Sapphead, Gannon, etc
5) Berates Al and the team 24/7/365
August 27th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Can’t remember the picks, I only remember our Super Bowl loss and Barrett Robbins, who I’m constantly looking for when I’m driving…so that I can run him over.
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lmfao
this is really funny.
August 27th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
August 27th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Hagar,
He’s a great GM in totality. However, there is no denying he’s the boss and he is 100% responsible for the horrible performance the last 20 years.
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they were in the super bowl 9 years ago, jackazz. and were a winning team throughout the 90’s. how stupid to say “horrible performance the last 20 years”. just dumb.
August 27th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Remember, also, that for the first time Gruden, we finally have a good head coach here. 11 wins this season is not outside the realm of possibility.
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Don’t bet on it. Team has way too many holes. More like 7-9.
—————————————-they were in the super bowl 9 years ago, jackazz. and were a winning team throughout the 90’s. how stupid to say “horrible performance the last 20 years”. just dumb.
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Do the math Rob Roy Numnuts, the team has a losing record over 20 years and were NOT winning throughout the 90s.
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