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Raiders place Eugene on injured reserve

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The Raiders placed safety and core special-teamer Hiram Eugene on the injured-reserve list Friday, meaning he is out for the season.
Eugene suffered a dislocated hip in the third quarter against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 11 and needed surgery to repair the damage.
The cruel irony is, the Raiders weren’t supposed to be on the field when Eugene got hurt. They were on defense because they “chose” to kick off to start the game and the Cardinals “chose” to receive the kick to start the second half. Chose is the word used by the referee to explain why the Raiders kicked off to start both halves.
The Raiders won’t have a difficult time replacing Eugene defensively. Stevie Brown or one of several other options can take his place. Replacing Eugene on special teams won’t be as easy.
Eugene carved out a niche as a dependable special teams player in recent seasons, especially on punt and kick coverage. Several players are vying for the role now.
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  • raidermarty

    Well I guess it was inevitable they were going to put him on ir; hip dislocation is pretty nasty stuff. Stevie Brown is suspect I don’t know if he can step up but somebody’s gonna have to pick it up. We definitely need some leadership in the secondary

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 7:38 am
    Morning Cain

    That list you used is not the updated one

    Heres the latest list without any additions you may have made

    SilverNutsack
    Master Beeecham
    Charged Up
    Alex 7
    Dvrick
    Albert Bigelow Paine
    89025 Raider
    Raider in Paradise
    RAIDER
    Sullivan44
    RealMaddenRaider
    RealGradkowskiRaider
    Mike the Moderator
    Raider Ray

    =====================================

    Remember to add Ohioraider (while he gets snippy and insulting when someone suggests he’s MR, you will notice he never ever denies it).

  • Plunketthead

    SilverNutsack
    Master Beeecham
    Charged Up
    Alex 7
    Dvrick
    Albert Bigelow Paine
    89025 Raider
    Raider in Paradise
    RAIDER
    Sullivan44
    RealMaddenRaider
    RealGradkowskiRaider
    Mike the Moderator
    Raider Ray
    StrahanMan
    MR
    Gust372

  • Plunketthead

    OR was on the list earlier

    Add him to it

  • Plunketthead

    I have to get back to work on my FF draft lineup

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 7:51 am
    SilverNutsack
    Master Beeecham
    Charged Up
    Alex 7
    Dvrick
    Albert Bigelow Paine
    89025 Raider
    Raider in Paradise
    RAIDER
    Sullivan44
    RealMaddenRaider
    RealGradkowskiRaider
    Mike the Moderator
    Raider Ray
    StrahanMan
    MR
    Gust372
    ———————-
    Hagar The Horrible
    plunkett for HOF

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    SilverNutsack
    Master Beeecham
    Charged Up
    Alex 7
    Dvrick
    Albert Bigelow Paine
    89025 Raider
    Raider in Paradise
    RAIDER
    Sullivan44
    RealMaddenRaider
    RealGradkowskiRaider
    Mike the Moderator
    Raider Ray
    StrahanMan
    MR
    Gust372
    Ohioraider

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Dvrick is to dumb to be MR

  • Plunketthead

    Gels World Famous Oakland Raiders FFL gets bigger, stronger, faster and meaner every year.
    I had to step up my game this year.

    If you are thinking about attempting to get your name added to the maybe list you better be dedicated and have skills

    just saying….

  • rob_raider

    here are some fantasy draft value picks for ya:

    qb: josh freeman—25 td/6 int last year and should be even better this year. #11 picked qb on average.

    rb: peyton hillis—people aren’t sure b/c he only has one big year. being drafted around pick 25. he is the browns offense. lots of carries, lots of catches, lots of td’s. no reason to think he won’t do it again.

    ryan grant—being picked about 50. was a bigtime back 2 years ago. catches the ball, scores td’s. healthy again. forgotten man.

    wr: d.owe/b.lloyd—i don’t like to pick chiefs or broncos but these guy were huge last year and are being picked way too late. no reason to think they won’t do it again.

    te: c.cooley—being picked very late for a guy who always produces. concerns about injury but the skins will need him.

  • anhdazman

    I think the Raiders will wait for the cuts after week 3 of the preseason. At that point, they might pick up veteran from another team that can still play, but cut because of his high salary. I saw a report previously about Tatupu looking too over weight, that could be why Oakland stayed away from signing him. Morrison would have been a good choice, but management must have seen enough of him the first time around.

  • rob_raider

    cuts after week 3 usually resemble what ours will look like. a bunch of nothing. just obvious cuts of roster fodder, like wand, francis, adeniji, etc. it won’t be until the final cuts that there will be guys out there. but there won’t be any gems. or at least doubtful. maybe an LB version of lito sheppard–a guy who is pat his prime but could give us some sort of veteran ability to play the position. but at this point, i would take 3 or 4 of those types of LB’s. i mean seriously, we don’t have a real LB on our roster right now.

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    Former Baltimore 3rd round pick G/T Oniel Cousins was cut yesterday, maybe his former coach Hue Jackson would like to take a look at this guy.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 8:04 am
    Gels World Famous Oakland Raiders FFL gets bigger, stronger, faster and meaner every year.
    I had to step up my game this year.

    If you are thinking about attempting to get your name added to the maybe list you better be dedicated and have skills

    just saying….
    ———————
    Is It too late to sin up for the FFL

  • YoungAmerican

    Interesting that Cousins goes into camp competing for the starting RT spot, and then gets dumped in the first round of cuts…

  • Plunketthead

    Patriots’ third-round pick Ryan Mallett was reportedly up “all-night partying” during the NFL Players Association rookie symposium in July.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6470/player?r=1

  • Raider Dell

    Marley,
    Ready to Roll? FFL style

  • Plunketthead

    Gels is full but someone else had one last night. Go back through the thread

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    Ready Dell….

    I posted a note about defensive player strategy on the league’s page for anyone interested….

  • Raider Dell

    Marley,

    Yes indeed, it was smart strategy. Thanks

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    As for Cousins, he bombed as a RT and they moved him to G last week, then they cut him.

    I say let’s take a look at the guy as a G, Hue should know if the kid has potential.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am
    Patriots’ third-round pick Ryan Mallett was reportedly up “all-night partying” during the NFL Players Association rookie symposium in July.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6470/player?r=1

    ============================================

    Am I only one thrilled that we DIDN’T take this guy? Dude’s a thinner, white JaMarcus: more concerned with partying and “thuggin’ it” than putting in the work.

    Wanna know what Tom Brady was doing while Mallett was partying? Brady was STUDYING.

  • Plunketthead

    Speaking of the Ravens, did anyone notice all the ZBS they were running?

  • Plunketthead

    I Bet Tom was knee deep in Gisele
    Studying is right

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 8:52 am
    I Bet Tom was knee deep in Gisele
    Studying is right

    ======================================

    I mean AFTER Gisele, he was studying…

  • Just Fire Baby

    Got the key to victory already.

    Chorizo and green chile, breakfast burrito from Twisters.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Mallet was sporting some serious meth-mouth during his Gruden QB camp thing.

    Either he smokes two packs a day, never seen a dentist in his life, or does some serious hard drugs.

    You don’t get little grey teeth like that at 22 without some help.

  • RaidingTexas

    “Dude’s a thinner, white JaMarcus”

    Except the Patriots aren’t guaranteeing him $32 million to party and thug it. They have a much more intelligent front office than that.

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    As for Lito Sheppard, hope he’s the latest “over the hill” former Pro Bowl CB who gives us a couple of quality seasons.

    Albert Lewis and Eric Allen come to mind, but in Sheppard’s case it really looks like a longshot and he needs to stay healthy if he’s going to show something.

    Hard to belive Sheppard is the same age as Nnamdi since he seems to have been around a lot longer….at least he’s experienced in man coverage, he must have been lost playing in Leslie Frazier’s Cover 2 based scheme last year.

  • bcz24

    Cant get into the draft for Dells league… this is rather annoying

  • lefty12

    Raiding-thanks to a rookie wage scale that is in effect partly due to the bust.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Some of you have continued to post that we should have gotten Kirk Morrison. He’s on the radio on weekends, sometimes during the week as well on 57am radio, Los Angeles, and he said on his show that he did talk to the Raiders, but he went to buffalo, because his best friend, Merriman (ex-dischargers) kept pushing him to come on board there. Plus, and more important to him, Morrison said he would be playing MLB at Buffalo and he didn’t want to play OLB with us as that’s not his “feel-good-position.”

  • ohioraider

    135.rob_raider Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 3:29 am
    as for kiffin, he was an idiot. a weakling. ever listen to him talk? he kinda half-whispers. how al davis got swindled by that tool is beyond me b/c he usually has good instincts for coaches. but his post-gruden run has not been good until hue.

    all kiffin could talk about was the projector? who cares?

    kiffin is a liar and opportunist who has never done anything remarkable whatsoever.

    ====================================
    Sure, uh huh, whatever you say. Blaming the messenger (who was only articulating what everybody in the league won’t say) won’t save this franchise from Davis’ inept leadership.

    As for being “swindled,” Davis gets swindled by players he mis-evaluates all the time. See, for example: JaMarcus Russell.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Ohioraider…many more names come to mind, but for sure Javon (I’ll spray people on the dance floor with $1500.00 bottles of champaine, 10 bottles worth) Walker and De Angelo etc.

    People will say what they want and I’m not defending Kiffin, but Al Davis hired the inexperienced kid. And, you must give credit to Kiffin for “begging” Davis NOT TO DRAFT JaFatazz and he also tried to get rid of, and then fire Rob “Mr prevent defense, himself” Ryan, but Davis wouldn’t let him. Ya, for 4 years Rob Ryan was our DC and we were constantly ranked among the 5 worst defenses.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Hagar The Horrible Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 10:27 am
    You must give credit to Kiffin for “begging” Davis NOT TO DRAFT JaFatazz and he also tried to get rid of, and then fire Rob “Mr prevent defense, himself” Ryan, but Davis wouldn’t let him.

    ========================================

    I’d Kiffin more credit, except that the player he wanted instead of JaBustus was…Brady Quinn. Hardly an improvement.

    As for Ryan, he’s had two more DC gigs since he left Oakland, so Al’s hardly the only one who saw him as a good coordinator. I’m not saying he IS a good DC, mind you, just that not everyone thinks he sucks.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Hagar,

    Al has been around a long time. His 1st 20 years he was the top GM in the league. His teams were iconic.

    Unfortunately, his last 25 years have not gone well. His teams have been lethargic…

    There are those who believe that AL can reprise the last last 20 years here soon while others feel the last 25 are indicative of future results.

    Regardless of ones position, Al Davis owns the team and has the right to run it anyway he feels like.

    He’s a great GM in totality. However, there is no denying he’s the boss and he is 100% responsible for the horrible performance the last 20 years.

    I still think he can pull a team together. However, iuts going to take longer for Al Davis because he’s stubborn and is going to do it his way. And with his way you are getting coaching turnover and a focus on players with potential over production.

    The NUMBER 1 thing Al can do to get this team right is to halt the coaching turnover. The single most destructive thing he’s done and the biggest difference between the 1st 20 and the last 20 years.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Wow, trying to white wash JaFatass who is considered the biggest bust of all times. You should have said that maybe Ryan Leaf was comparable. And, if your record says you stink, and you’ve always been at the botton, it doesn’t mean you’re elevated because other teams make the same mistake and hire you. Evidently you didn’t see all the games that Ryan lost for us in the 4th quarter with his prevent defense, which only prevents you from winning. If Roy Ryan wasn’t the son of Buddy Ryan, he probably wouldn’t have made it into the NFL as a coach.

  • TerrapinRaider

    Just for kicks ..watched Cam Newton vs Terrelle Pryor clips. Generally the same type of QB – big, physical, good arms and can run.

    While I’m not gitty about either (I actually think Cam will be a Bust); I think Pryor is actually the better QB prospect. And he went 3rd round vs #1 – great job by the Raiders.

    Cam is a runner more than a QB. Pryor is a QB first then tries to run. He looks downfield more and he doesn’t just tuck and run.

    Pryor has a stronger arm than Cam and a better delivery. They both need to work on mechanics. But Pryor looks better throwing the ball. He has a higher release. You can tell his mechanics are all off and he muscles the ball deep or in a window. Thats impressive because if they do get his mechanics right watch out.

    Its quite telling when you look at their ‘highlights’, Cam is more entertainment than real QB play, he’s always running – not a lot of passing. Pryor’s highlights have a ton of passing that you can actually get a better feel of his abilities throwing – the essence of the QB position.

    Most importantly, Pryor is in a much better situation than Newton. He is closer to being a ‘real’ QB than Cam and while they both need development Pryor can actually take the time to develop (delivery motion, footwork, progression reads, all the mechanics). Cam is going to be rushed in and he’s not even close to ready to be a NFL QB.

    I would put my money on Pryor to have a better pro career.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    Hagar The Horrible Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 10:42 am
    Wow, trying to white wash JaFatass who is considered the biggest bust of all times. You should have said that maybe Ryan Leaf was comparable.

    =================================================

    No, I was not trying to whitewash JaMarcus; for one thing, enough whitewash does not exist in the known universe.

    My point was that you were implying that if Al has listened to Kiffin, we would’ve draft some great player instead of Russell. No, we would’ve drafted Brady Quinn, who threw the exact same number of passes last year as ol’ #2.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    SnB…I agree with you. Thos years with Madden (10 yrs) and those years with Flores (10) years, were the best in all of football. Our Monday night record of 14 wins out of 15 games will never be equaled. And, again, you’re right about the coaching problem the last two decades. And, when he had a good coach, one that started work every morning at 4am (JOHN GRUDEN) Al trades the dude and we lose the Super Bowl the next year. I still can’t figure that one out. Some people try and clean it up by saying Gruden wanted to leave. Ya, maybe, when the opportunity in Tampa opened up. BUT, the year before, Al could have renewed his contract with Gruden for another 3 or 4 or 5 years, but, no, Al waited and then traded him for his draft picks. Can’t remember the picks, I only remember our Super Bowl loss and Barrett Robbins, who I’m constantly looking for when I’m driving…so that I can run him over.

  • TerrapinRaider

    Oh, and Pryor is faster than Cam. Not that it matters for QB position but if you’re going to run it ….

    Considering all of this, its pretty crazy how Cam went 1 overall while Pryor goes in the 3rd round and is considered a “reach”

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    I watched some Cam Newton preseason completions, and was NOT impressed.

    He didn’t look off his primary receiver ONCE. Every play I saw, from the moment the ball was snapped, he was staring right at the guy he was gonna throw it to.

    If he keeps doing that in the regular season, he’ll be throwing into triple coverage every single time.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    My recollection is that Kiffin wanted Calvin the wide receiver? But, if we get Brady Quinn, at least he wasn’t overly greedy, he signs and he’s productive that first year. Not JaFatass, he holds out, drinks that purple punch, buys fur coats, and goes on a down hill crash. Ya, I’ll run that dude over as well if I ever see him.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Gotta go guys, I’m going to Del Mar (where the turf meets the surf) and enjoy a day at the races. Races start at 2 pm and it takes one-and-a-half hours to drive there. The beers and the margaritas should be cold, the temperature cool (it’s on the beach) and the time spent there enjoyable…always is at Del Mar.

    Go Raiders…and tomorrow will reveal alot.

  • TerrapinRaider

    I just didn’t get all the Cam Newton hype. He has the media at his back that for sure. I look at this guy play and was not impressed insofar as what I would look for in a NFL QB.

    At least Pryor tries to be a QB and like Hue says, thinks like a QB.

    If Pryor is as dedicated as has been reported and they get him the best coaching, he may actually to out to be something special at this level.

    I believe all that will come (mechanics). My main concern would be his ability to read defenses or work through his progressions. I haven’t seen evidence yet to sway me either direction.

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck
  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Terrapin,

    Cam Newton was drafted in the 1st round by scouts who saw that he had something worty of such. Terrell Pryor was allowed to “slip” to the third round of the 2012 draft…effectively.

    What will determine their successes is not their speed and athelticism.

    It will be mastery of the playbook and mastery of QB throwing mechanics and ability to read defenses.

    Only then can they make their athleticism be worth anything. Gotta be able to master the QB position.

    Vick only became a real threat when he got into that playbook.

    Those guys have to do the same thing. And its not easy as most college QBs fail and only a few truly become good.

  • http://www.wasRaider75.com wasbanned

    Looking for a Raiders tailgate in Houston Oct. 9th.

    Anyone here know of anything happening?

  • Boogie Louie from Tuskanookey

    96.Sullivan44 Says:
    August 26th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
    Here’s the Raiders’ part of Kiffin’s interview:

    In retrospect, was going to Oakland an unwinnable situation?

    It is almost impossible. I don’t know why I didn’t listen, [because] so many people told me that. That’s why, if you ask [Steve Sarkisian], he didn’t go. He had a chance to go. You’re just so far behind other clubs. You’re waiting for [owner Al Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions that the rest of the league is making at 6 o’clock in the morning. You’re still running videotapes over to the hotel so he can watch practice at night.

    The overhead projector Al Davis used during the news conference he held after your firing seems like kind of a metaphor for how he runs the Raiders. Would you agree?

    Yeah, it was. It was sad, really, to see somebody who’s accomplished so much in his career and been such a powerful figure in the NFL … to see that was actually pretty sad to watch. But you’re exactly right, an overhead projector — that describes the pace that you’re dealing with of the way an organization is being run.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/31208/lane-kiffin-dishes-on-oakland-experience

    =======================================================

    So Al wasn’t ready to do business til 2 in the aternoon? That tells me the cat is out partying til 6AM in the morning. WOW. But if he wants to manage the Raiders, he better get to bed a little earlier.

  • Boogie Louie from Tuskanookey

    186.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 27th, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Hagar,

    Al has been around a long time. His 1st 20 years he was the top GM in the league. His teams were iconic.

    Unfortunately, his last 25 years have not gone well. His teams have been lethargic…

    There are those who believe that AL can reprise the last last 20 years here soon while others feel the last 25 are indicative of future results.

    Regardless of ones position, Al Davis owns the team and has the right to run it anyway he feels like.

    He’s a great GM in totality. However, there is no denying he’s the boss and he is 100% responsible for the horrible performance the last 20 years.

    I still think he can pull a team together. However, iuts going to take longer for Al Davis because he’s stubborn and is going to do it his way. And with his way you are getting coaching turnover and a focus on players with potential over production.

    The NUMBER 1 thing Al can do to get this team right is to halt the coaching turnover. The single most destructive thing he’s done and the biggest difference between the 1st 20 and the last 20 years.

    =======================================================

    Great post, as usual. But I’d like to add, if history goes in cycles, the next 20 years should be on the upswing for Al (yes, he will be around til he’s a 100) so I’m looking forward to it.