Live chat with Raiders’ Tommy Kelly Wednesday, 3:30 p.m.
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, August 30th, 2011 at 4:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly will be on hand to answer questions from fans on Wednesday at 3:30 p.m. PDT during a live chat, moderated by Steve Corkran.
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August 30th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
August 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
It really is lonely at the top
August 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
70.J Hill Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
B,
Why do you think Henderson is not starting?
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Cuz of Al Davis wanting to have pass rushers up the middle
August 30th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Oh boy…I’m about to get after Tommy Kelly tomorrow!
August 30th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Tommy Kelly you gonna be scared to answer my questions buddy
August 30th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
1st question for Kelly…..why do you suck so bad verse the run?
August 30th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Routt is still lost half the time. Age doesn’t fix ignorance, studying does.
August 30th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
At 3:30? Shouldnt Tommy be in school, I mean at practice?
August 30th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Tommy Kelly’s most memorable play in history: when his pants fell off. LOL, cant remember another one.
August 30th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
2nd question……….who is a bigger thief…you or Bernie Madoff?
August 30th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
3rd question….How can you being such a big man have trouble beating the RG one on one?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
3rd Question: who’s fatter: rob ryan or turdell sands?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
4th question….do you take it to heart that you have started at every spot on the dline and they still stink vs the run?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
5th question……what do you plan to do after 2011 when Raiders figure out you suck and arent worth two red cents?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Kelly, after hearing your sideline interview I am led to believe you have no command of the English language: does this impair your ability to read/learn the play book and hence, the reason [y]ou can’t stop the run?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Macho lololololol…..too funny
August 30th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
1st question for Kelly…..why do you suck so bad verse the run?
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LOL, that’s basically what Tafoya asked Seymour twice in a row on SNF.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
15.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Kelly, after hearing your sideline interview I am led to believe you have no command of the English language: does this impair your ability to read/learn the play book and hence, the reason [y]ou can’t stop the run?
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HAHAHAHA oh my god….BAMMM downlow man!
August 30th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Announced Earlier Today:
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog” cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
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Everyone else made it.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
17.BigTed707 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
1st question for Kelly…..why do you suck so bad verse the run?
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LOL, that’s basically what Tafoya asked Seymour twice in a row on SNF.
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Kelly’s answer will be “I DONT EATSA DEM CHILI DAWGS NO MO”
August 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Brien I can’t wait for your line of questioning for TK.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Announced Earlier Today:
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog” cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
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Everyone else made it.
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What? Kell must be on the James Jett scholarship for the gifted.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Mista is super cool….yall hatin
August 30th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
LMAO
August 30th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
21.Seymour Bush Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Brien I can’t wait for your line of questioning for TK.
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They’ll never let my questions pass through…..come on I’m da B@uce…and verbally I’m tough to deal with…..why you think Kell and MR get their daily stomping?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Corkran already said he is moderating the Kelly chat.
Kelly will never see your questions, lol.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Kell fkin sucks…..you are a backup UT….plain and simple
August 30th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Lord help us if Kelly is allowed to type his responses tomorrow.
He will go down as the only person to ever spell “Raiders” with a 6.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
26.J Hill Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Corkran already said he is moderating the Kelly chat.
Kelly will never see your questions, lol.
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Corkran already knows from last year thru emails I hate Kelly….no surprise
August 30th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Hmmm let’s see Tommy Kelly is an underachiever….Michael Kelly aka FAILKELL is an even bigger loser…..I guess they symbolize the song…” ITS A FAMILY AFFAIR”
August 30th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Someone should ask Kelly can he do the truffle shuffle
August 30th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I seriously doubt that TKelly will ever be intimidated by any trifling vomit spewed from this site.
once upon a time Uncle Al gave TKelly a bunch of green.
people amused themselves wondering aloud why why why?
yesterday the Phillys gave a whole bunch of green to their runabout pitcher.
are people amused by this and asking why why why?
or are people afraid that that to ask why is to paint themselves as anti-black-excon?
the Phillys have no o-line. their runabout pitcher may be an extraordinary athlete but the man is going to get broken into shattered body parts as a result of his style of play and the ineptitude of those protecting him.
the Phillys are just covering their azzes in a make-good-look contract after letting Kolb go to the desert.
laughter should abound, but instead the offering will be one of tragedy when the runabout gets totaled.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I believe Tommy Kelly is jealous of that fat kid from the Willy Wonka movie…he is like ” Damn that sho look like sum big fun”
August 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
M Lonetree Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I seriously doubt that TKelly will ever be intimidated by any trifling vomit spewed from this site.
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Vomit is truth now? Kelly would never answer my questions….I wish I saw him out in public so I can speak on it
August 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I would pay cockran to let some of those questions go through…I allways get a laugh when B goes in on Kelly….
If any of those question get through the interview would cease at that moment…
August 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
So you’re tellilng me that Al Davis is mandating Tommy Kelly start over Henderson?
I thought you said on multiple occasions that Al Davis doesn’t dictate the starting lineups?
You really think Davis gave Seymour all that $ to not put him in the best place to impact the DLine?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Big john should start as base NT with Seymour as UT…..now thats a real shot at doing something vs the run and plus Seymour sees no double teams…..NEXT
August 30th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
36.J Hill Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
So you’re tellilng me that Al Davis is mandating Tommy Kelly start over Henderson?
I thought you said on multiple occasions that Al Davis doesn’t dictate the starting lineups?
You really think Davis gave Seymour all that $ to not put him in the best place to impact the DLine?
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He sure does have some influence on it….why wouldnt he?….he lets his coaches coach but he sure tells them what he thinks and his words carry heavy….he is a legend for god’s sake
I know Al think he can buck certain things and get around schit. I’m the same way but then I know when I’m licked
August 30th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
the other body in the Philly-hype is Desean. the man is scrawny and is one single hit from being done for.
he wants his cash and wants it now because he knows that is true.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
35.Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I would pay cockran to let some of those questions go through…I allways get a laugh when B goes in on Kelly….
If any of those question get through the interview would cease at that moment…
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They afraid of the real…..thats usual in all parts of life it seems
August 30th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Coach Jackson has said he will start the best players, that seems to be the trend on the O side of the ball, that should also translate to the D side of the ball.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Kelly with his Rick Ross/David Banner beard should be way tougher than he looks….Big John looks,acts and is the part….a proven run stuffer….Kelly is a proven reserve DL
August 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
41.Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Coach Jackson has said he will start the best players, that seems to be the trend on the O side of the ball, that should also translate to the D side of the ball.
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With Kelly and Groves starting you know its not then on D….lol
August 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
They afraid of the real…..thats usual in all parts of life it seems
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In the business world that is the truth…They rather idiots that are simple to control…
August 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I think we should play the old Kurt Angle music from WWF……”you suck….you suck….you suck”
August 30th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
44.Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
They afraid of the real…..thats usual in all parts of life it seems
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In the business world that is the truth…They rather idiots that are simple to control…
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And I’m the difficult type of negga they dont want around but I know how to play the game better now then before
August 30th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
B@uce<——-hothead,pothead negga that had dreads
August 30th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
With Kelly and Groves starting you know its not then on D….lol
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Thats on coach Bresh, the coach Jackson, and ultimately coach Davis…
August 30th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
so a starter on your favorite team is taking time out of his day to answer fan questions and you’re gna bash him?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Method,
truth may be an actuality, but it is something rarely approached by human beings.
believing something to be true is another animal entirely.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
And I’m the difficult type of negga they dont want around but I know how to play the game better now then before
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Sounds like you have learned…It is truly a game, a simple one…The streets are harder than the boardroom
however, both are basically the same…
August 30th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
But still juiced to go to LA this weekend…..my block report shall be updated…will knock some old school Mac Dre….”come on you bz let’s do some grown schit, put on a tight thong too small that dont fit”
August 30th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
49.inonewordraider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
so a starter on your favorite team is taking time out of his day to answer fan questions and you’re gna bash him?
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I wanna win dammit! Dont you?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
50.M Lonetree Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Method,
truth may be an actuality, but it is something rarely approached by human beings.
believing something to be true is another animal entirely.
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I grok brotha
August 30th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
51.Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
And I’m the difficult type of negga they dont want around but I know how to play the game better now then before
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Sounds like you have learned…It is truly a game, a simple one…The streets are harder than the boardroom
however, both are basically the same…
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Preach
August 30th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
truth may be an actuality, but it is something rarely approached by human beings.
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Where in the H do you find find? Where is it, and who has it? How can i get? How much is it?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Where in the H do you find truth? Where is it, and who has it? How can i get? How much is it?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH….out of the office…bout to keep it so LIT right in downtown…..so until next time….same B@uce time….same B@uce channel…..Code Black…outro
August 30th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
B aint gonna go after TK he just wolff’n in here because if he does he’ll get set straight. I’ll ask him to explain to everyone why the 1tech he plays is so different from the zerotech of a true NT.
Why that doesn’t exist in a 4/3 front.
And we’ll see who’;s been right forever
August 30th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Tommy Kelly is entertaining. And played crazy last year. Don’t let your hated blind you…
August 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Seattle just lost Carlson for the season, Raiders should consider trading them Mr. Meyers for a late round selection.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Mr. Kelley stepped up.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Just not thinking rationally.
If Al liked his pass rushing DTs, he wouldn’t line one of them up right between a C and OG to be double teamed.
He would also put his best pass rushing DT one on one with an OG, don’t you think?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Papa was on that Wheelhouse show on 95.7FM earlier today and saying Hagan is the 6th WR on the depth chart??
He has already proven himself to better than DHB and better than Mr. Glass Chaz!
August 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Lousy questions.
He needs to hear questions about what Chuck B and that whole defense needs to do to get better!
The DEFENSE seems to be REGRESSING right before our eyes!!
Not good!
August 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
When did the Steelers grab Swayze Waters?
August 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
I know where you won’t find the truth.
You won’t get it from the government or the main stream media.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
TK had probowl #’s lst year I watched all preseason and no one I mean no one has run at him yet.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
QB: Campbell DE: Shaughnessy
RB: McFadden DT: Seymour
FB: Reece DT: Kelly
LT: Vehldeer DE: Houston
LG: Wisniewski SLB: Wimbley
C: Satele MLB: McClain
RG: Carlisle WLB: Groves
RT: Heyer SS: Branch
TE: Boss FS: Huff
WR: Hagan CB: Routt
WR: Ford CB: Johnson
starters for the Raiders on MNF
only 3 different players from last season starting
Boss, Hagan, Heyer on offense
only Johnson/Routt starting over Nnamdi on defense
August 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Watching DVR of the game.
1st pass of the day all DVD had to do was turn around and it was a pick. His coverage was so good he wasn’t expecting Brees to even try.
Then Brees tries Branch who was really beat but TE dropped. Next he tries McClain, nice breakup and coverage.
3 & 10 he goes after DVD again for a 1st down.
1 & 10 tries TE on a short out …Branch right there ..no where. Next actually tries to run Ingram – stopped. 3 & 6 tries Sproiles on short out McClain right there to prevent 1st down.
4th down and they go for it against who? DVD.
1st and goal …run for 3.5/4yds, penalty -5yds, slant route vs DVD for 6yds, run Ingram for 1yd. Score.
Summary: Raiders stopped the Saints around the 30 where in the regular season that would have been a FG attempt. Saints were only able to get yardage on 1 player. DVD! Thats it! And he’s not a starter. Moreover, he’s a rookie.
Drive really was not that impressive when you think about it. They were only able to attack 1 playa to gain ground.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
69.RaiderRetribution Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
QB: Campbell DE: Shaughnessy
RB: McFadden DT: Seymour
FB: Reece DT: Kelly
LT: Vehldeer DE: Houston
LG: Wisniewski SLB: Wimbley
C: Satele MLB: McClain
RG: Carlisle WLB: Groves
RT: Heyer SS: Branch
TE: Boss FS: Huff
WR: Hagan CB: Routt
WR: Ford CB: Johnson
starters for the Raiders on MNF
only 3 different players from last season starting
Boss, Hagan, Heyer on offense
only Johnson/Routt starting over Nnamdi on defense
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And the important wild card who calls the plays?
Chuck B?
I would love for him to prove me wrong about him and his defensive play calling and ability to adjust quickly.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
And that 1 playa is not even a starter
August 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Exactly what I saw. Our 1’s looked very solid. Our DB’s not turning around and looking for the ball have been a problem for years thats why we get so many PI calls. And then you consider Ford & DMAC didnt even suit up!
August 30th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
QB: Campbell DE: Shaughnessy
RB: McFadden DT: Seymour
FB: Reece DT: Kelly
LT: Vehldeer DE: Houston
LG: Wisniewski SLB: Wimbley
C: Satele MLB: McClain
RG: Carlisle WLB: Groves
RT: Heyer SS: Branch
TE: Boss FS: Huff
WR: Hagan CB: Routt
WR: Ford CB: Johnson
starters for the Raiders on MNF
only 3 different players from last season starting
Boss, Hagan, Heyer on offense
only Johnson/Routt starting over Nnamdi on defense
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You forgot lil’ Wiz and Ford didn’t start all season..
August 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Bush was slicing off chunks, the O-line looked good. Boss wasnt in there either.
I look for us to unleash fury on Seattle’s 1’s and then take a seat on the bench and start focusing on taking a dump on the Broncos.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
TK had probowl #’s lst year I watched all preseason and no one I mean no one has run at him yet.
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First team D hasnt been really ran at, but the two 1 yard runs for Td watch Kelly its pretty sad.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
DHB basically looked up too late on that ball. He had his guy beat regardless of what Chirs W. says. Still he should have had that one. If it hits your hands it should be caught. That deep ball from Campbell was much better than last week. When those 2 start connecting watch out!
DHB look up earlier! Otherwise it was good timing on Campbells part. Hard catch but definitely catchable.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
And that 1 playa is not even a starter
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I don’t know if I’ve ever seen someone picked on in such a short time, Brees just saw a rook and went after him. This would not have happened in the reg. season.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
HAWT!~ 08-30-11: TUESDAY PRACTICE NOTES
See who’s back, who’s not and who’s cut…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_pre_season
August 30th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Good news …he started to adjust to the ball. Gotta look up earlier than that. Keep workin’ kid.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
DHB didnt even have a step on that db, wheres all that speed I keep hearing about ? His football IQ is garbage and his football speed looks very ordinary.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Soup was lookin pretty good out there with the no-huddle.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Still worried about Satele. He whiffs and gets QBs killed. Boller is seriously lucky to be alive. Wizzer looked good at Center but it was deep in the third.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Goodole – carlile missed a block on rogers too on that play. I’m not sure how you could miss a guy that huge but he did. it wasn’t all on satele
August 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
The offense scheme is much improved. All the shifting is likely creating mismatches and confusing the defense.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
tj, you were in here shooting load after load on yourself for J Moss. I haven’t seen him do 1 thing in this pre season.
Go ahead and explain yourself we all could use a laugh in the 5 o clock hour…
August 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
i thought that too mista about dhb. for all his supposed speed he is never mentioned amonogst the fastest guys on the team.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
jarvis needs contacts or lasix so he can see where the los is. he was 6 inches over it when he got called.
August 30th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Moore tends to get into it when blocking. Thats the 2nd time I’ve seen him giving extra shoves (other was vs AZ).
August 30th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Terrapin, nice game recap.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
HueKnows Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Soup was lookin pretty good out there with the no-huddle.
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Agreed, he/we need more of that.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Campbell looks good. In control.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Hey, you know what we HAVEN’T seen at all this year or heard about….
Marcel Reece. Last year he was all over breaking long plays on screens etc. I don’t think his name has come up in any of the practice notes or pre-season games…
He was also a huge threat for us out of the backfield last year….especially catching the ball…
August 30th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
The offense was very methodical, very well organized and ran. Very nice march down the field. Very well executed runs. One deep strike attempt. And a good bit of short stuff that kept the chains moving. Very nice march.
(not just picking on 1 playa)
August 30th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Soup is in the kitchen cooking up some bully?
August 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
DHB is just a fk’n lump.
The end
Hagan = Beast
August 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Safe to say. .. Jared veldheer is our best olineman…?? That dude is going to b here for a while…awesome character. .. according to some players… hopefully he’s another Lincoln kennedy…. that dude was a beast…
August 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Did you see that shot of AL in his box wearing a baseball cap ?
lmfao
August 30th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Bush was getting nice yardage running to the right and Wiz was getting to the 2nd level supporting those runs to the right down field. Very nice.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
DHB gets no separation on a slant or fly.
ZERO
August 30th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Mista..
I saw that… it looked like his mommy dressed him up for his first day at camp..!!! LOL…
August 30th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
DHB is just a fk’n lump.
The end
Hagan = Beast
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Im sorry to have to agree with this
August 30th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I never seen Al in a ballcap, classic! With his white towell on his lap loookin like he just polished off some cole slaw and a gin n tonic.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Just showed a replay of the Hegan TD. 8 in the box trying to stop the run! w/ DBs in man cvg 10 yds off he ball.
When you run like that, it pays divs. Quick slant to Hagan taken to the house 1 on 1 vs the DB.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Mista…
It was wrong… I get the feeling someone told him to dress that way.. make him look younger n vibrant… old man look like a fool… I had more respect for him when he dressed in black and Looks like a mean s.o.b…. lol
August 30th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Anytime you see priesttj praise a WR like DHB just look to the other side where a beast like Hagan is standing, because DHB is there with cement cleats on havig us play 10 on 11!
tj is about as clueless as a football fan can be.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Ghost remember the last conf AL did? His head looked all scabbed and cut up so I think the cap is cover.
Not knocking him just saying probably the hat is cosmetic.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Cement cleats… lmao!!”
Classic!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Buace!! See you Sept 25th at the Sierra Nevada booth behind section 112 again eh dawg?
Oh,,,, and,,, this is Drexl
August 30th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Anytime you see priesttj praise a WR like DHB just look to the other side where a beast like Hagan is standing, because DHB is there with cement cleats on havig us play 10 on 11!
tj is about as clueless as a football fan can be.
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Oh the senseless arguments I have had with this priesttj
August 30th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Oh..man..LOL.
The Guy looks like skeletor man.. I luv al..I really hope we can win one more super bowl before he kicks the bucket. . I really think that’s why he’s still around…
August 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
post 81,Who was the DB,and how FAST is HE?
August 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
N.O. on offense:
Sproiles ties to run to outside for 2yds.
TE caught ball on Huff 20yds. Huff had great coverage but looked up too late. It was a great timing play w/ Brees.
Thomas tries run to outside, stopped by Boyd 1yd. Then Henderson short throw parrellel to the lne for 4 or so.
Finally a good run by Sproiles around the end 10yds. TScott was taken down on the play – a little holding there/take down ..he had Sproiles covered in the hole.
Short attempt – McClain right there – 2/3yds. Then blown ZONE coverage in the secondary (Branch) 25yds to the 15.
Tries Routt – no good. Then Pierre runs right …Branch met him hard at 3 although Pierre gets 6. Soft zone coverage b/t Branch & Routt gives up a 1st down near goal. HB dive for TD.
Summary: Not a bad drive by the Saints. Raiders had good coverage. Pretty good run defense. But secondary blew coverages that gave up big yardage.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Why argue with Brownhole Priest..He makes it very clear that he is a moron with his nonsensical posts..like Woodrow Wilson said, “Never murder a man that is committing suicide.”
August 30th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Woodrow murdered his fair share. I guess they wouldn’t commit suicide.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
2nd drive of the Raiders …they dialed down the offensive scheming and when more plain vanilla. 10yds penalty on Wiz early in the drive derailed them.
Its not looking like a real scrimmage. Hue’s feeding TJ checking him out regardless of the score and down & distance.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
lmao
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89052RAIDER Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Why argue with Brownhole Priest..He makes it very clear that he is a moron with his nonsensical posts..like Woodrow Wilson said, “Never murder a man that is committing suicide.”
August 30th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Wow really
August 30th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Live chat with Kelly tomorrow? Well, this ought to be interesting to say the least. I can just picture it…
Steve as moderator – “Here’s one Tommy…Oops, maybe not this one. Okay here’s another one…Ah, maybe not this one either. Here’s…Oh my…Just give me a minute Tommy. Ah…er…the chat link doesn’t seem to be working too well Tommy…What say we go get some burgers or something? My treat big guy.”
August 30th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
BHP…no bruh no no no you didnt just tell me that I wont question Kelly about his underachieving career. You made a killin financially with what to show for it? Tommy kelly has played hella games and had little to no impact most of the time. He may need to hear it cuz I dont see it with him
August 30th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Drexl! Sup man? Hell yeah halftime brew is a fa sho mayne! Great to see ya back! That is a Raider right there!
August 30th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
3rd N.O. drive:
Kelly is no longer in the game. Houston & Bryant at DT. TScott at RDE.
McClain good on blitz. Needed to go earlier to get the sack but good job still.
Penalty on Moss (lined up in neutral zone) extends the drive ..what would have been a 3rd down stop N.O. gets another shot beating Boyd for deep middle gain.
Saints noticeably slowing down (Raiders adjusting?) but drives for a FG.
Summary: N.O. is finally having a little success on the ground. Not suprisingly when Kelly leaves and we are effectively rotating out. Raiders pass defense begins suring up during this drive as well. Pass rush is starting to heat up with blitzes but they are a little late. I think this will be the last drive for the starters. N.O. didn’t look as sharp this drive.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
I think that was the last drive for Raiders starting defense. Albeit, without Seymour or CJ and Kelly leaving during the previous drive.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
All things being considered, defense is actually pretty good.
August 30th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Does Kelly’s contract run out this year?
August 30th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Hagan, Ford, Moore and Murphy in 4 WR set with T Jones or DMAC comin out the backfield. We have a chance to be realllllly good on offense!
August 30th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
3rd Raiders drive:
Plain vanilla.
DHB was mugged on that slant. The guy was all over him. Holding like there was no tomorrow. DHB turns around for a flag – nada …a clear WTF?
FG.
Summed up: TJ Tryouts.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Method To My Madness
LMAO at Who is the bigger thief Kelly or Bernie Madoff
Also:
3rd question….How can you being such a big man have trouble beating the RG one on one?
Seriously LMAO
August 30th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
OK. Most of the 1st team D is in (Kelly out). Bress is out. Players are slowing down. Ready to check out. Saints stopped on a sack by Houston.
Raiders in for 2 min drill. Nice timing for practice. 2 min drill looks more organized than last year. More timely.
Should’ve been a TD, but ends in a Campbell INT (deflected pass).
August 30th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Thats a wrap for the 1s and me.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Overall, offense looks real good. Defense is much better than you think (remember – NO CJ, SEYMOUR, MM34 AND KELLY SITTING EARLY).
I think this will be a very good team.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Twerp raider,
DHb is not even a UFL receiver quit making excuses for him because you want to give him a reach around and he went to Maryland. He sucks.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Making DHb start has hurt the Raiders more than starting DVD. That is saying something. Thank god CJ is back.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
You couch potatoes better watch your mouths tomorrow.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Just watched the SD/AZ game. The cards torched the dolts and it was beutiful.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Not sure if Steve published all of this from postgame interviews. Some good, candid thoughts from Hue and JC….
HUE
“We discovered we have a young runner in Taiwan Jones. Derek Hagan stepped up and mede some palys.”
If you watch the Hagan interview, you’ll see ol’ boy is 100% business, all hard work. Emphasized it more than once.
Hue on defense:
“It’s an issue . I couldn’t tell if you if it’s scheme or assignment. Obviously, on that side of ball we have some work to do. We got some fxin’ to do and I understand that and we’ll get it done.”
Scheme? And if you watch the interview, you see the emphasis on that word he has.
JASON
“I don’t feel like everyone’s playing to win a job right now with things that [New Orleans] was doin’ to us in 2nd half but at the same time we understand we got to continue to pick up the pieces togehter, work together and we got to bring in this thing tighter sooner than later.”
I believe Satele when he says Jason can lose that famous cool of his, ’cause JC had a look in his eye that I hadn’t really seen from him before. Jason honestly looks like he’s ready to lead this team.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
I dont getta watch a lot of football, but from what I hear and read in the papers is Raiders number one wr set should be moore and throw the Hagan fellow right out there into the mix. A friend of mine showed me a U-tube of him stiff arming a mothrfckr right in the face against norleans. That was professional.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Terp Kelly sucks……u guys looking at some bullschit. We know his game isnt worth that contract or those snaps throughout the course of a season
August 30th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
From what I hear down at the tavern when they got espn on the television sounds like darrus heywood bay is makin a lot of money but can’t catch the football. He sure can run as fast as a jack rabbit out runnin a hungry dog. They need to teach him to catch. He’ll be a good one cuz he can run like lightning.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Here it is, I don’t want to jump the gun just yet. But he looks very familiar to a receiver that once wore the silver and black.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ULoJuRjLQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
August 30th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Well LA….if JC mans up and lets it fly then Im all for it. He has his final shot ever
August 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
127.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
3rd Raiders drive:
Plain vanilla.
DHB was mugged on that slant. The guy was all over him. Holding like there was no tomorrow. DHB turns around for a flag – nada …a clear WTF?
FG.
Summed up: TJ Tryouts.
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Still shoulda caught the ball.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
testing, 123 test 123
August 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Big john should start as base NT with Seymour as UT…..now thats a real shot at doing something vs the run and plus Seymour sees no double teams…..NEXT
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THis action would improve the defense
August 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Hagan seems like he is willin it to lay it all on the line. I want guys like this starting. That helmet to helmet shot he took last year shows heart and skill to catch it. He has shown in practice and games he is best suited to be a possession guy for us. dHB hasnt
August 30th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
142.still shoulda caught the ball Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
127.TerrapinRaider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
3rd Raiders drive:
Plain vanilla.
DHB was mugged on that slant. The guy was all over him. Holding like there was no tomorrow. DHB turns around for a flag – nada …a clear WTF?
FG.
Summed up: TJ Tryouts.
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Still shoulda caught the ball.
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Nah. He should have caught the deep strike; not the slant. You can’t catch a ball when your arms are being held back from closing in on the ball. Can you catch a ball with both arms being held? What with you stomach? lol.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
You guys are killing me with this Hagan. The guy will make the team – no doubt. But this crowning has to stop. Its pretty bandwagon-ish over one game.
Sounds like the same ridiculous comments made last year and the year before – “Rankin must start!”
yadayadayada. Don’t get carried away.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
well now that i’m inside i’m going to tell some of you that you need to clean it up. and while i’m at it, if some of you think you can do a better job runnin this team, this magnifacent organization, well just come knockin in the morning. i’ll hear what you got to say.
and a word to mr. kool kell, i feel your pain good buddy, but you just got to hang in there with us. ok? do that for me and be a good sport about it and a beer and a dog is on me.
now i’m gonna keep a close eye on some of you in here and i expect you folks to keep it clean. no more nonesense. keep it football talk. and when master beechum pops in, ignore the fckng s.o.b.
good evening gentlemen, jh
August 30th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
DHB should’ve stayed with deep ball and made an over the shoulder catch and but as you said on the slant how do you miss that PI…….laughable.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
You guys are killing me with this Hagan. The guy will make the team – no doubt. But this crowning has to stop. Its pretty bandwagon-ish over one game.
Sounds like the same ridiculous comments made last year and the year before – “Rankin must start!”
yadayadayada. Don’t get carried away.
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Hagan is making plays! On the field and in practice. He’s got to do it in regular season games..but he is showing real promise right now.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
T’pin Hagan looked very good but he’s been cut 3 times and he’s in his 5th year he should be doing what he’s doing if he wants to stay in the league. But these guys will eat out of his hands after one game. I want the guy to make the team but he has to be consistent and I think he will because he’s hungry much more hungry than some of the bums they’ve been begging them to bring in here.
I do however think he is legit, but you’d think he was Larry Fitzgerald they want they act. We have some decent rec.s this make him #1 is NUTS.But it’s typical blog mania.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Hagan is making plays against the 1s
August 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Whoa, Whoa….Priesttj, if you can get fired up about DVD and DHB…we can get excited about Hagan.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
You only caught a glimpse of this offense during the 1st drive vs N.O. And I think during the 1st drive vs AZ.
After the 1st drive vs N.O., Hue went plain vanilla and started trying out TJones et al.
I’m telling you this offense is going to be lights out. Just a beutiful thing to watch.
Hue says he cares about these games. I think he does some, but he really uses them to have something to improve upon. He sits players real early that don’t need the work and who we will rely on heavily during the regular season. While keeping backups or scrubs in most of the game; then trots out …”We need to improve this and that and get better” …Well what do you think Hue? You trotten out backups and scrubs – of course we need to improve!
hahaha. Good coach.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I think that fans have a right to be excited about Hagan. He’s turning his career around. Eli Manning is waaaaay overrated. JCamp is at this time a better QB than Eli.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
<—-very excited about Hagan.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Uh! I saw thathe’s been getting better and better let’s hope it continues.
August 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
SnB i wanna win man. Why cant they see Seymour and Kelly as a DT combo cant stop the run?
August 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Remember another washout Brandon Lloyd, everyone laughed him off to an early retirement, and he turned his career around.
Just sayin it could be the same for Hagan.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Sometimes players get reputations and referees, whether they do it on purpose or not, let it affect the way they see things that involve that player.
DHB has somewhat of a reputation as a player that doesn’t catch the ball very well. I hope it doesn’t affect the times he’s closely covered, with the official giving the benefit of the doubt to the defender.
The defender definitely got the benefit of the doubt on that slant pass.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
You should be, who wouldn’t be but #1 come on calm down a bit.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
SnB i wanna win man. Why cant they see Seymour and Kelly as a DT combo cant stop the run?
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Stubborn. The Raiders think that the reason they can’t stop the run is lack of concentration and effort…when in reality the effort is there…the issue is personnel
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Hagan and Moore are the hot hands. START THEM. and so what if hagans been around and cut a few times. MAYBE HE’S FIGURED IT OUT, unlike some sorry acts we got out there on scholarship. The hot hand plays………………….period
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
ET Ray Charles could’ve called the PI..
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Regardless, DHB doesn’t have the tough hands that Hagan does. If a pass isn’t picture perfect in his mitts, it’s easily swatted away.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
You should be, who wouldn’t be but #1 come on calm down a bit.
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No, the number 1 is Denarious Moore…drafted the kid in my fantasy team
August 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Many teams will play the starters into beginning of Q3. Hue started sitting key players 2Q so he can have something to talk about. lol.
OK, I’m exageratting a bit but he does do this. All of the tackling issues were in the 2H with players who probably won’t make the team. But Hue will use this to have something to harp on with the team. Push them to perfection.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
So you know better than they do……….yeah right!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Remember another washout Brandon Lloyd, everyone laughed him off to an early retirement, and he turned his career around.
Just sayin it could be the same for Hagan.
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Especially given that the Raiders have made a living over the decades getting juice from players like Hagan
August 30th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
DHB also lacks any fire. He’s not pissed that he misses a ball. It’s almost like he expects it and sighs. No ‘my ball’ mentality.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
So you know better than they do……….yeah right!
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Nope, Idon’t know better…just my guess..Moore will be starting on MNF
August 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
BHP who are our damn 1 then heading into Denver? Only other guy you can say is Moore. No one else is a possession WR
August 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
168.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
So you know better than they do……….yeah right!
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I sure as hell do. Funny isnt it? Hagan is better than DHB but someone aint seein it. Not good.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
162.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
SnB i wanna win man. Why cant they see Seymour and Kelly as a DT combo cant stop the run?
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Stubborn. The Raiders think that the reason they can’t stop the run is lack of concentration and effort…when in reality the effort is there…the issue is personnel
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NEWS FLASH: Starting defense w/ Kelly in sure did stop N.O. from running the rock. It was the most important game of preseason. But hey, who’s paying attention to these things.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Stubborn. The Raiders think that the reason they can’t stop the run is lack of concentration and effort…when in reality the effort is there…the issue is personnel
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Nope, the issue is priority. Seymour as much as said so in an interview last week.
Scheme & Priority of that scheme.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
That one pass Hagan caught on a crossing route mid range, don’t anybody tell me that DHB could make that catch. Watch it and you’ll see Hagan got smacked on the hands hard, and he still held on.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
164.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
ET Ray Charles could’ve called the PI..
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Too bad he wasn’t on the field.
I guess the lockout was bad for the zebras, too. There were some pretty unbelieveable calls (and no-calls) in that game.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
T’pin it’s clear to me Hue is using these games to drive home his point knowing they don’t mean anything. But he can use them as if they do. Great tactic!!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Guest123 I think it’s a concensus opinion Hagan is better than DHB OK!! That point is established..
August 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
SnB….Hagan and Moore should be the starters with Ford as the 3rd…..starting DHB sends a wrong message
August 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Like Chris Collingsworth said, they get gouged for big runs occasionally because everyone has his back to the QB, running downfield. They are powerful upfront.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Guest123 I think it’s a concensus opinion Hagan is better than DHB OK!! That point is established..
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Yes, but on opening day which one is the starter?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I’m not sure how many times it needs to be said DHB is coming into his 3rd year. Hagan is coming into his 5th and he was a star at AzSt I watched his entire career he was drafted in the 2nd rnd it takes time for WR’s to develope I’ve said it a million times.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
SnB…see Terp man? He focusing not on the big picture for an NFL season. Some dont get it lol
August 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I want to see an offense where the receivers get the most receptions…I don’t care who starts…all I want to see is PRODUCTION…
Potential is over now. This team has a bunch of player with 3+ years of experience. Time to win!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I’m out. Gotta get some sleep.
This Hagan #1WR talk is really ridiculous. Let the guy make the team 1st – and he will. Then lets see if he can get on the field and do it in the regs with team’s gaming him. OK.
Whole nother ball game.
Crazy ppl I tell you. I’m glad you all aren’t running the show. Crazy.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Who the hell knows man why are you asking us?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
all I want to see is PRODUCTION…
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August 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Jason Campbell looked good yesterday. He was spreading the ball around attacking both sides of the field…..
When N.O brought the 8th man into the box to TRY and stop Bush….it was setting up 1-1 matchups outside that JC, Hagan and Moore exploited.
Its time to win fellas….I am very serious. All the banter back and forth and bs’n has got to come to an end.
Dammmmm near 10 years of nonsense…
Do you all want to win…or see your favorites play?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Cris Collinsworth is full of schit. Wee watched and heard saame excuuse over and over again. The issue is personnel
August 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
If it’s consensus in the blog, on the team, in the media, and everyone is saying it. Tell me how DHB is still be discussed IN THE CONVERSATION of being a starting wideout for this team? Hands down he doesn’t belong. Proofs in the puddin.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Terp good idea
August 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
I don’t hate DHB. I am just making a very simple observation…these other guys are getting catches and yards…and DHB had another o’fer night.
We can’t have that this year!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
What do you guys think we want to see? Hue is playing srubs in these games so he can see who to cut. He’s stashing players who are healthy to make sure they’re there game1. Who knows what he’s doing. But you think you know and no one really does.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Priesttj, I’ve been sayint that Hagan should be a Raider for years. I knew the kid was gonna be great and I told you so. I watched mature at Az and I had hoped Al woulda drafted him. But we got him now and like I have said for nine years and a million and one times, Hagan has the hot hands right know and he needs to start along with Moore. Been tellin you this forever. Trust me………………….period!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Jason Campbell is prepared. He steps up and reads the D on his presnap reads and it looks like the game has slowed down for him. He’s in control now. Right now, he’s one of the better QB’s in the game in understanding the D and making adjustments.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
You’re discussing it I can’t help that stop discussing it.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
B&uce,
Starting receiver should be pulling in 70+ receptions…our receivers pulling in 30.
Can’t win doing that
August 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
SnB you want WRs to lead in receptions? Dont care who starts? You kind of crossing yourself up there
August 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
@195
Amen!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
You’re discussing it I can’t help that stop discussing it.
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Ignore the elephant in the middle of the room? Bury my head in the sand?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
196.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Jason Campbell is prepared. He steps up and reads the D on his presnap reads and it looks like the game has slowed down for him. He’s in control now. Right now, he’s one of the better QB’s in the game in understanding the D and making adjustments.
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Kinda like a hitter seein a 95mph fastball lookin like the size of a softball. I been sayin for years Campbell just needed a oline that didn’t leak. Trust me, I been sayin this forever. I told ya so. Campbell is gonna step up and tear ‘em up. I been preachin this to ya but you aint hearin it. Just a fact………………period
August 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
As far as him starting I couldn’t care less it doesn’t matter to me it matters to you guys. If Chaz is healthy and Ford and Murphy he may not. Why is that sooooo importnat to you guys?? I just wnat him on the team how they play him is up to Hue Jackson he has to win and he will do whatever he has to do to win.
I wouldn’t you jokers in here tell me who to start I know that, Hue has to kn wo who to start based on his own critereon.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
B&uce,
If DHB starts…then he better come out there and snag 4 or 5 balls…if he does that…I would be thrilled.
But..if he starts, which is most likely to happen..lets be real…and he goes 0′fer or 1 catch for 10 yards…we lose…
August 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
SnB then you describing DHB the 6th WR when everyone is healthy lol
August 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
I’ve been saying all offseason what I think of JC if the players around him perform that guy has a gun and he is very accurate. he’s a much better QB than those in here give him credit.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
And what criterion is that? Something other than a zero catch game?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Preach on Bau@e!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
When you’re playing Man2Man Defense, the priority has to be get to the QB, not stop the run.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Guest123 If you feel you have to discuss DHB by all means man do it but don’t complain about it.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
When DHB is safe & sound with his triflin a$$ on the sideline servin up gatorade when the O comes off the field, I tell u what I wont complain.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Do what cha like man it’s world……..LOL
August 30th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
206.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
I’ve been saying all offseason what I think of JC if the players around him perform that guy has a gun and he is very accurate. he’s a much better QB than those in here give him credit.
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I been sayin ever since we got JC all he needed was recievers to catch the ball. I been sayin a million and a hundred times that dropped balls dont count as completions, but if DHB is out there and aint catchin jack, well then thats a incomplete pass. And it aint helpin JC. So I been tellin everyone he now has some WRs that are the sch1t, hagan and moore and JC is gonna fly. Fact………………………….Period. Double Period!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Kell really even with Chester,Grady Jackson and Sam Adamms with John Parella out there eh?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
211.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
When DHB is safe & sound with his triflin a$$ on the sideline servin up gatorade when the O comes off the field, I tell u what I wont complain.
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Word!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders try DHB in the slot. He seems to struggle when trying to adjust to the deep ball but does better when his routes are a little shorter.
He’s certainly fast enough, and his size and strength may be an asset there.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I been sayin ever since we got JC all he needed was recievers to catch the ball. I been sayin a million and a hundred times that dropped balls dont count as completions, but if DHB is out there and aint catchin jack, well then thats a incomplete pass. And it aint helpin JC. So I been tellin everyone he now has some WRs that are the sch1t, hagan and moore and JC is gonna fly. Fact………………………….Period. Double Period!
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August 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
You guys think by spending you r days and nights in here the coach is going to do what YOU want. Well guess again because any coach of the oakland raiders that would listen to a bunch fans is a bad coach because fans don’t know squat. If it were left up to the fans Gradkowski would be starting for the Oakland Raiders not the guy who is…………..period
August 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Teach, they have tried everything with DHB. It’s no use beating a dead horse.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
209.KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
When you’re playing Man2Man Defense, the priority has to be get to the QB, not stop the run.
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Thats what I been trying to tell you for twenty years man, why are we so concerned about the run. I saw this comin forever. You cant teach mano eh mano and focus on the run. I been tellin ya but you wont listen man, you GOT TO git to the quarterback like I been sayin a thousand times. Give the muthafckng qb time ina mano bs mano scheme and he’ll eat your lunch. But now you hearin me cause I told you so. Book it……………….Triple Periuod!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Campbell of last year looked nervous and quick to give up on a play and check down too many times. Campbell on Sunday looked like a less polished version of Peyton Manning.
dudes for real!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
BHP….yeah and were blind to our problems. We are in denial then
August 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Guest,
I get you. However, he’s not going anywhere this year and it wouldn’t hurt to see how he does. You never know.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Hello Raider Nation!!!!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
ET I never even thought of that, but who knows it could work. I know this DHB is much closer to being what a very good rec’r than anyone in here will admit.
These guys thought Nnamdi was a bum…
August 30th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Didnt the colts go 1-4 in preseason one year and won the superbowl
August 30th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
218.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
You guys think by spending you r days and nights in here the coach is going to do what YOU want. Well guess again because any coach of the oakland raiders that would listen to a bunch fans is a bad coach because fans don’t know squat. If it were left up to the fans Gradkowski would be starting for the Oakland Raiders not the guy who is…………..period
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Not true. I been telling youfor years just cause a coach is a nfl coach doesnt mean he can coach like some of the other coaches that have coached. Been telling you that for years, a million and one times. There have been some awful coaches who should have listened to the fans, because the fans seee the game different. The coach is under to much presusure and he blows, how can he thinkd straight. Been telling you for ytears. I told you so. Trust me on thei. ………………Period
August 30th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
You cannot remain near the bottom in the league vs the run no matter what scheme you play. We not saying be top 5 vs run
August 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
I look for the game plan against Denver is to exploit the short game, quick slants will ease the blitzes. 2nd and short will set up the deep throw. Too dam much speed up front and its dangerous on those wheel routes. A 4 yard completion can be taken to the house on any play. Speed kills, and we got it in spades. We gonna crush the Broncos. I feel it.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Fans see what they want to see man, you might have a few astute fans but most see what they want to see.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Kinda funny how some here say were going to have a good team.. some say not so good…. blah.. blah.. blah.. no ifs anymore. .. I want you guys to tell me what the raiders of 2011 will end with after 16 games….. I’m not happy… we lost our best defensive player and by far our best receiving weapon…. I’m saying 6 wins and 10 losses… I’m not a pessimist… and I’m not an optimist. . I’m a realist… please give me your thoughts on what the raiders final record will be?? And That includes you priest? ? I want to know??
August 30th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
225.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
ET I never even thought of that, but who knows it could work. I know this DHB is much closer to being what a very good rec’r than anyone in here will admit.
These guys thought Nnamdi was a bum…
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Dont put me in that catergory. I told you and I called the front office and I emiled Al and said “dont let Nnamdi go”. It was a mistake but yu cant admit it. I told you a thousand times we need to keep him. And the way dvd was picked, especially when we cant bring anyone over to help the poor guy out, just pathetic. I told ya so but you wouldn’t listen. The DVD kid is gonna be good, but if we want a bully that can win a playoff game, might noit happen with outr poor corners and backfield. I told you many times keeping Nnamdi was not the ansewer, but losing him was a major blow to the gut, or right up the gut if you will. Now maybe you’ll hear me cause lookout, the book is out. the heat is on. I told Al a thousand times and he deferred me to hererra everytime, keep Nnamdi. Trust me………………..Period
August 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
If we are 6-10 but a bully I’ll take that. Just don’t want to be playing that soft Chucky B prevent scht and losing that way. I want the other guys to know the played us the next day.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Coaches under pressure, name one who isn’t they all have to win 99% of all coaches will or have already been fired. It’s the business but even when they are wrong in some instances they are right more than the most astute fan 10 to 1. Because no fan sees what they see. You may be right anout one thing while they’re right about 25. It’s not close.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
230.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Fans see what they want to see man, you might have a few astute fans but most see what they want to see.
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You got that right.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
BHP….no way is DHB close
August 30th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
119.CanuckRaider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Live chat with Kelly tomorrow? Well, this ought to be interesting to say the least. I can just picture it…
Steve as moderator – “Here’s one Tommy…Oops, maybe not this one. Okay here’s another one…Ah, maybe not this one either. Here’s…Oh my…Just give me a minute Tommy. Ah…er…the chat link doesn’t seem to be working too well Tommy…What say we go get some burgers or something? My treat big guy.”
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LMFAO!
August 30th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Guest.. what’s your prediction.. 6-10?? What is it?
August 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
10-6, but no worse than 7-9. AFC West Champs.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Priest.. what’s our record going to be??
August 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Lol BHP is on a roll
August 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
OK. .thanks 10-6… atleast you had the cajones. .
August 30th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
I do care about the record, I aint lying.
But I want us to go back to the roots of Raider football. The intimdiation of black jerseys marching into stadiums. The look of fear on the other teams face.
Hue Jackson and I are the same exact age. I grew up cheering for his exact same Raiders. I feel what he’s trying to do here.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Kelly gonna answer weak questions
August 30th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Priest.. your the king of ” I told you guys”…well man up. What’s our record going to be??
August 30th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Raiders need to be an 11-5 team to win division. SD will be around all year
August 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
234.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Coaches under pressure, name one who isn’t they all have to win 99% of all coaches will or have already been fired. It’s the business but even when they are wrong in some instances they are right more than the most astute fan 10 to 1. Because no fan sees what they see. You may be right anout one thing while they’re right about 25. It’s not close.
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We have the option of second guessing the coach on alnost every play. A HC cannot second guess himself, I’ve been trying to tell you that for years. Why do you think they are under so much pressure? It is easy to second guess yourself, but if it is after the play and you failed, you’ll go nuts trying to do it. But fans got nothing to lose, oh maybe something on the line or something, but not your job like a head coach would. You’re hearin me know cause I told you so like I been sayin forever. Trust me………………Period
August 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
SD will be tough no doubt.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Will they? Well health permitting its a good chance….but player correct starters will guarantee it
August 30th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Guest.. you see.. the guys afraid to answer. .. Were not as good as last year.. and we have a much tougher schedule
.. 6-10…
August 30th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
DHB is close he just needs another season and an offseason with Hujack. He still makes very correctable mistakes this kid is very young man which is something you just refuse to see. The only difference between him and Hagan is reps Hagan has seen what he’s seeing 3x’s more so he’s much more relaxed. DHB will frustrate you no question but just give that young man another year with good coaching and you’ll see a very different player this time next year. Trust me I see it.
He gets more frustrated than we are but he gets too anxious he wants to do good soo bad he forces things when he doesn’t have to.He just needs to relax and trust his skills.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Playing*
August 30th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
244.Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Kelly gonna answer weak questions
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So how ya like Biekert, dude was pretty good back in the day wouldn’t ya say?
Yeah, dude was good.
So ya looking forward to opening up on Monday night.
Sure. Cool. Yeah.
August 30th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
MEthod.. is That your prediction. 11-5???
August 30th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
251.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
DHB is close he just needs another season and an offseason with Hujack. He still makes very correctable mistakes this kid is very young man which is something you just refuse to see. The only difference between him and Hagan is reps Hagan has seen what he’s seeing 3x’s more so he’s much more relaxed. DHB will frustrate you no question but just give that young man another year with good coaching and you’ll see a very different player this time next year. Trust me I see it.
He gets more frustrated than we are but he gets too anxious he wants to do good soo bad he forces things when he doesn’t have to.He just needs to relax and trust his skills.
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Trust me, I don’t see it. He is scared of getting hit. Trust me I see it. Does not make him a bad person. Just a fact. ……………….Period
August 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
I don’t predict records I never have anyone predicting records is just throwing a # out there. Injuries play a huge part in your eventual record. If JC goes down for the year and we end up with Pryor at QB most of the year it changes everything. Predicting records is silly but people do it all the time.
I do’t have a clue what the record will be
August 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
DHB is a 6th wr on this team when everyone is healthy
August 30th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
a year ago at this time few here would have given Jacoby Ford the time of day because he was an unknown.
a year ago at this time many here were shouting to the heavens for the Polish Popgun because he had a legendary quarter in Pittsburgh.
a year ago at this time people here were dead set against starting a Division II rookie from Hillsdale College on the offensive line.
opinionatin’ and believin’ ain’t worth the dregs in the bottom of a spittoon.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
BHP you gave Russell this same pass as DHB. He is showing nada of a to WR. He accepted draft spot and signed for that dough. Yes its his own doing
August 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
19-0
August 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
260.M Lonetree Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
19-0
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That is mighty bold!
August 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Its a show me type of world….DHB shows as our 6th WR
August 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Goodnight fellas
August 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Great Big Raider Fan,
gotta start somewhere.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Priest. .. You’re weak.!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
264.M Lonetree Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Great Big Raider Fan,
gotta start somewhere.
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Cool.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
It’s your opinion B I don’t agree, you guys go whatever way the wind blows if Hagan starts dropping passes what then? Cut him?
Let it play out…the cream always rises to the top if he is what you think he is eventually he will get that chance. Let it play out…
August 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Pee wee Herman>priest
August 30th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
196.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Jason Campbell is prepared. He steps up and reads the D on his presnap reads and it looks like the game has slowed down for him. He’s in control now. Right now, he’s one of the better QB’s in the game in understanding the D and making adjustments.
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Are we being freeeeegggin serious with this post!? It’s PRE-season gosh damn! Is Campbell better than Bradford, Freeman, Sanchez, Cutler, or even Hasslebeck? I’m not sure he is, because all of those quarterbacks made their teams better than what they should’ve been last year, and we can only hope Campbell does the same for the Raiders this year. If he does, then our average defense won’t be as big a problem as it seems because our offense will smoke the competition. Geez people, keep things in perspective.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
perspective never riegns in here it’s all about popularity, whoever is popular today is king and cut all the rest. Hagan is playing well if he keeps it up he’ll get all the run he can handle. If he keeps it up.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
The way this offense is shaping up, I’m going with 10 wins.
Also think 10 wins gets the AFC West this year.
I think we beat Denver and KC twice, and split with the Chargers.
Bill, Browns, Jets, and Lions are 4 more wins.
Don’t have the schedule in front on me to tell you who that 10th win will be.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
purvisman
9:07 PM on August 30, 2011
Didn’t we all know all off season that the offensive line would be fine; it was defense we had to worry about? joking. I remember last year being happy Bush was starting the season instead of Mcfadden, as were most of you that are honest enough to remember. And, I’ve been curious why every pundit has said giving up Nnamdi was a death knell to a team they give no chance of winning anything ,but the last eight teams that won the superbowl didn;t have Aso on the team. Don’t get me wrong, I loved NNamdi and wanted him here, but why would that be the be all and end all of our chances? I’m drunk but you get the point.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
BHP you gave Russell this same pass as DHB. He is showing nada of a to WR. He accepted draft spot and signed for that dough. Yes its his own doing
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I wouldn’t agree with this Brien. Yes, he signed his own contract, but he didn’t draft himself 8 overall. If that piece of paper was put in front of you, you would have signed it as well.
DHB is on his 3rd offensive coordinator in 3 years. His 2nd head coach in 3 years. It is not an excuse but continuity goes a very long way in this league.
You look at a guy like Roddy White in Atlanta. Dude is a Pro Bowl receiver. His lst two years in the league were terrible. And I mean terrible. And he had Mike Vick and Matt Schaub as his Q’s. Not J-fat ass.
When DHB got drafted, he was drafted as a project. Now all of a sudden Raider fans are realizing he’s a project and they’re pissed at him. You want to see improvement. With Russell, Russell regressed. He regressed badly. That was that. Let’s see what happens with DHB. He has seemingly improved. His improvement might seem glacial, but he has improved.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
501.alex7 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:36 am
LA doesn’t appeal to everyone (only 90% of humans)
Oakland doesn’t appeal to ANYONE.
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it appeals to yo momma right over on san pablo at 12:15 am. tell her and ya daddy JOHN the hood says wassup.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
alright jhill im ready for your de debate if u out there.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
:-/ Why did we let Marshall go?
August 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Not trying to debate, just want to know who you replace.
Houston or ShoNasty?
August 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
J Hill
You ever play football?
August 30th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RAIDERS go 13-3 in 2011-2012 season.
Top 5 Offense in NFL 2011 – 2012
JC gets MVP consideration
DMOORE to fight it out with TJONES for RON, and ROY
TJONES wins MUP
August 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
112
August 30th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I can’t really see it getting much better that Houston at LDE on 1st and 2nd dn.
Everyone is saying ShoNasty is going to be a pro bowler. I don’t think he is a pro bowl 3r down RDE at all.
I’m waiting to see Scott, Wimbley, and Moss on the field rushing the passer with Seymour and Kelly in the middle.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
of course the reason I am bringing up Roddy White and Atlanta is after everything fell apart for Mora in 07 and Emmitt Thomas took over he had an offensive coordinator Named Huge Action.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
great big raider fan always Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
:-/ Why did we let Marshall go?
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Because we let Cable go. Marshall was Cables choice.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
The best route DHB runs is 15 yard comeback route.
He should run that more often, pretend he is going deep and just stop and work his way back to the ball and hope he catches it!
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
For those of you that have Hagans starting over JFORD have completly lost it…
No one in the NFL can guard JFORD 1 on 1…
Yet some of you semi’s want to throw him on the bench for HAGANS? Really????
HAGANS and DMOORE are damn near the same WR…
JFORD on the bench for HAGANS???? I dont care if JFORD is 4′5″ tall he is a straight G..> and the best WR on this team….
Starting Day WRs
JFORD, and who ever else coach Jackson puts in.
DMOORE should be it, as predicted May 1….
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
August 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Hagan and Ford should start and Moore should be the 3rd WR with DHB at 4 until Murph comes back!
Period!
August 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
we need to get tyvon back on ST as a gunner. i want to maximime the talent we have and that dude made a huge impact his rookie year as a gunner.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
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I can’t disagree. Bresnahan wasn’t even in the league last year. Didn’t we already have this happen with Shell and the B and B guy?
August 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Just want to give a big shout out to Ray and Paulene in Tulsa, how’re ya’ll doin?
A big hello to Nancy and Bobbi Jo in Santa Fe, you gals know I’m lookin forward to passin thru
Can’t leave out Ted, My boy named Sue, Pete, Bam Bam and Crawdad Joe, you boys know I love New Oleans BBQ, nothin like it in the world. You boys BBQ the damn best alligator I have ever tasted.
And all my fellow Raider brothers and sisters, I’ll be seein ya’ll in Seattle next friday night. Cant be crossin paths with my Raiders and not payin’em a visit, specially in hostile country. Be glad to stop on in and do a cheer.
Oh hell, I almost forgot darlin Darlene in El Paso. Babe, you special. You know it.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Got money that says JFORD DMOORE any takers???
August 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
jhill u know i like houston as a dt more than at de. im sayin id like to see him move inside and have a true 3 down de who can rush the passer. im all for getting osi or someone like that in the draft next year. i dont know who is available this year so i cant say who. u have to admit that we need a more fierce pass rush. 2 many 3rd and long get completed cuz the qb has all day to throw. i dont blame our 2ndary for that at all.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
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Just look at Seymour’s interview this past game as proof of that. He said it was the players responsibility. Translation: This new coach ain’t doing us any favors.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Oh hell yeah, Betty Lou if your up late in New York City and your readin this, darli I’ll be home soon. If you can pick up the Seattle/Oakland game on cable, I’ll be sure to be wearin my black boots and blue jeans and a white sports coat with my silver dress shirt and a black tie. Look for me babe, I’ll be sure to wave.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
# The NEWS Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
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Just look at Seymour’s interview this past game as proof of that. He said it was the players responsibility. Translation: This new coach ain’t doing us any favors.
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I saw that interview and like I said before. Seymour didn’t sound confidant…at all!
That’s disturbing.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
The only way that JFORD does not start if his hand is not completly heeled…DMOORE has the best hands on the squad…He has been doing it in every practice, and every gamme….
Thats what it is…
August 30th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
It’ll be interesting to see who our starters will be at WR.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Hagan and Ford should start and Moore should be the 3rd WR with DHB at 4 until Murph comes back!
Period!
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Let’s not go crazy. Hagan has been in the league what 6 years and not a lot to show for it. Ford has one season, and Moore hasn’t played one down. Murphy, Ford and DHB are probably the best three. I really really like what I am seeing in Derek Hagan tho. Kid has skills and desire. I am sure they will find a spot on the field for him.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
i like ford more as a 3rd wr cuz of the options he gives us off the bench like a 6th man in basketball. he provides energy and is more hard to gameplan for when u dont see him right away. we need a possession wr for sure. i think hagan may be that guy as he is making plays against starters and backups. u cant overlook his consistency. i dont mind dhb being the starter opposite him but he and jc gotta get that deep ball game on track. i still dont like how jc floats it up there sometimes. dhb does need to do a better job of adjusting to the ball and just play loose. he plays so damn tight from game to game u dont know which guy will show up.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
295.DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
# The NEWS Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
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Just look at Seymour’s interview this past game as proof of that. He said it was the players responsibility. Translation: This new coach ain’t doing us any favors.
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I saw that interview and like I said before. Seymour didn’t sound confidant…at all!
That’s disturbing.
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Reminded me of some damn silent creep somethings in the air thing that has seemed to haunt the long halls of Alemeda. Can’t put my finger on it but I can smell it. And it is a damn shame Marshall left because I like him and I told you that for as long as I told you. Without him who knows.
Yeah Seymour said the players got to play better, meaning the HC ripped the players a new bunghole but the players know they cant get better because they dont like the scheme. Are they playing to their strengths? Lets ask TK tomorrow.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Every coach at every level knows competition makes the team better. Well, looks like we got some competition at the WR position. That can only be a good thing.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
John Carelson out for the year. Let’s trade them Meyers for a 3rd rounder.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
I Like JFORD as a starting WR as I know like the NFL knows that no one in the league can hold him 1 on 1…
The best WR you have you don’t sit him, or use him sparingly. You send him out on a constant, you dont have to create mis matches for him as he is a built in mismatch.
August 30th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
I noticed in the NO game the CB’s were playing at least 5-7 yards off the LOS… JC was doing some excellent reads, and the WR’s were making some good adjusments also…
Top 5 O in 2011
August 30th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
So if you move Houston to DT, are you moving ShoNasty to Houston’s old spot LDE so the speed rusher can truly play opposite the LT at RDE?
Truth be told, Seymour needs to be playing LDE.
Seymour Kelly Henderson ShoNasty
Houston is not a better LDE than Seymour.
I have no problem with him at the the 3 tech challenging Kelly for the starters spot.
I think I need to see Wimbley and Scott next to each on one side other with Moss at DE on the other side. Put Seymour and Kelly in the middle of that and I think that is you pressure the QB lineup.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
curious to know what :$: hagan makes
August 30th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
curiuos to know if hererra is running the show. besides him and amy t, who else is there
August 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
jhill the moves i would make has to have a new offseason. seymour is a dt. just like he played at georgia. alot of yall forget that. when we traded for him i immediately said he was gonna be moving inside to truly be at his best. well a year later we did and the rest is history. we need kelly to become more disruptive so he can be even better.we dont need to see backups like scott out there.we know what he is. what we need now is a star de to take this dline to the next level. right now we just have to make due.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
if i see john or amy friday night in seattle, i’ll ask them what percentage of operations they now have say over, and i’ll report the answer back to this blog.
all i know is the raiders better rip seattle a new one, because its down and dirty now. starters need to fight it out for the final spots.
something else i dont understand. didnt hue say he didnt come here to lose or did he say he came here to win? either way, he cant be to happy about 0-3, so i expect oakland to have their teeth sharp friday night.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
if u really fix that front 7 we need about 4 players over the next 2 years. 2 dt’s a de and 2 lb’s. the only way to fix the run d is to get tougher quicker guys upfront. what we have might get better but only marginally.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
J Ford will more than likely get the most snaps outta all our WRs.
But there will be plays where he’s not on the field simply because we are trying to pound it down someone’s throat and Chaz, Hagan, and DHB are all better-bigger-stronger run blockers.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
For those soiling their diapers over our preseason, you need only look at the 2005 Colts. 0-5 baby. As if that’s not enough, it included a 38-0 shellacking by the Bengals in the final week of preseason.
Preseason records mean precisely SQUAT
August 30th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
I don’t predict records I never have anyone predicting records is just throwing a # out there. Injuries play a huge part in your eventual record. If JC goes down for the year and we end up with Pryor at QB most of the year it changes everything. Predicting records is silly but people do it all the time.
I do’t have a clue what the record will be
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So clever eh BHP? Way to cover your fat know it all ass. Lmao.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
The NEWS Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
For those soiling their diapers over our preseason, you need only look at the 2005 Colts. 0-5 baby.
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The Raiders, aint the 2005 Colts, 2004 Colts, 2003 Colts, ok?
August 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Well shhhiiidddd, if you wanna talk about a couple of offseasons and adding some players, then year I can see where you’re going.
Seymour is good enough to play any of the 4 DL positions. But I would certainly try and steer him away from that constand double team lining him up between the C and OG. I’d let him go to work one on one against the RT all day long. Force the other team to keep a TE or RB in to help that RT out and weaken their pass options.
I think what you are looking for from that DE can be provided by Wimbley rushing the passer from his OLB spot.
I don’t think there is a 4 man front in our future where all 4 guys play every down. I think we will see the Trevor Scott’s rotated in on passing downs, and the Houston’s moved over to DT.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Houston does play 3tech on 3rd and long rushing downs. He also plays the 1tech behind Kelly now if you watch the NO game the DT’s were Hosuton and Bryany they were looking at that for 3rd down purposes IMO.
They are going to use Big Sey and kelly more as 1st and 2nd down tandem and use these youn g kids to get after the QB.
I know it hasn’t looked great yet but that could turn into something.
As far as Ford not starting I can’t see that at all y’all’s trippin now.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
J Hill Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I can’t really see it getting much better that Houston at LDE on 1st and 2nd dn.
Everyone is saying ShoNasty is going to be a pro bowler. I don’t think he is a pro bowl 3r down RDE at all.
I’m waiting to see Scott, Wimbley, and Moss on the field rushing the passer with Seymour and Kelly in the middle.
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Problem is when the raiders put those light DEs on the field they get obliterated in the run game…not that Houston and SHaughnessy are doing a helluva lot better…but its much better than seeing Burgess, Ellis, Scott etc….getting smashed
August 30th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RAIDERS go 13-3 in 2011-2012 season.
Top 5 Offense in NFL 2011 – 2012
JC gets MVP consideration
DMOORE to fight it out with TJONES for RON, and ROY
TJONES wins MUP
4$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$making my list of raider fans. thanx thec07
August 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
The NEWS Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
For those soiling their diapers over our preseason, you need only look at the 2005 Colts. 0-5 baby.
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The Raiders, aint the 2005 Colts, 2004 Colts, 2003 Colts, ok?
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I don’t disagree, but that wasn’t the point. That’s just to illustrate that preseason records are meaningless.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I said passing situations SnB.
If there is a TE and a FB on the field at the same time, that lineup should never be on the field.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
It’s all about down and distance they will pla certain packages. Someone mentioned earlier that Seymour looked unhappy and I agree he didn’t seem nearly as positive as he did lasty year. But that may be due to the shortened camp with no offseason.
But King Richard is a true pro he will give it everything he’s got and it better work because you don’t want him doubting the scheme that would be disasterous.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
if the running game takes off like it should this offense will put up points on anybody. The defense just needs to show the majority of the time. And no one knows how good this team could be. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them in the AFC championship game if they get hot. The Jets don’t scare me and neither do the Pat’s if the offense takes. The way JC is playing already this team could easily win the division. And get a bye with 2 games to win to go to the bowl. And I wouldn’t mind seeing the Saints in the SB they showed their offense they didn’t see ours.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
I agree with Ohioraider, a Frachise that’s been losing a long time needs to show something in the pre-season, for their own confidence, much more that a Elite Team, like the Colts.
Having had Run D problems for years, you don’t want to give up 239 yards on the ground in a pre-season game, like they did to the 49ers.
When, you’ve just lost your best player, Nnamdi Asomough, you don’t want to see your Secondary getting gouged.
See what I’m saying?
August 30th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
This team won’t be good until they learn to stop the run.
When will that be?
August 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
preseason don’t mean a damn thing i’ll be glad when it’s over so we can really see what the team looks like.
August 30th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
There ’s been years when we were dominant vs the run and we won 2 games. Yes you have to be good vs the run you don’t have to stop it. You have to be able to control it.
August 30th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
When will we be able to stop the run?
When?
August 30th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Kirk Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
When will we be able to stop the run?
When?
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When the man in charge decides to put some effort into stopping the Run. It’s obvious his priority is somewhere else.
August 30th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Pre season records are meaningless, but basic pre season performances such as blocking and tackling and block shedding tell alot. Getting rag dolled is never good.
August 30th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
We’ll never be able to stop the run never!!
We’ll be able to play the run much better tha before this year part of great run defense is great offense. That forces team sto try to score. The other part is getting physical vs the run and TACKLING!!!
Stay disciplined stay in gaps and tackle if they do that they’ll be as good as anyone vs the run. Great run defenses are your most disciplined and best tackling teams. If they don’t tackle well they wont stop the run…………..period
August 31st, 2011 at 1:01 am
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
We’ll never be able to stop the run never!!
We’ll be able to play the run much better tha before this year part of great run defense is great offense. That forces team sto try to score. The other part is getting physical vs the run and TACKLING!!!
Stay disciplined stay in gaps and tackle if they do that they’ll be as good as anyone vs the run. Great run defenses are your most disciplined and best tackling teams. If they don’t tackle well they wont stop the run…………..period
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Damn priesttj, i been tryin to tell the world this forever. great run defenses is great offense and it forces the team to score. well im not sure i quite understand that but i will say a weak or strong defense does try and stop the score and I been sayin that for a long time. a great defense is as good as an offense cause it puts your offense back on the field i guess that is what your saying. but I been sayin it a hundred times, good defenses and superior great defenses sometimes are better that really lousy offennses I suppose you could argue it that way/ ut im tellin ya, i been sayin it all along and i’ll say it again cause iv’ve said it for so lomg. ………………period
August 31st, 2011 at 1:10 am
KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
I agree with Ohioraider, a Frachise that’s been losing a long time needs to show something in the pre-season, for their own confidence, much more that a Elite Team, like the Colts.
Having had Run D problems for years, you don’t want to give up 239 yards on the ground in a pre-season game, like they did to the 49ers.
When, you’ve just lost your best player, Nnamdi Asomough, you don’t want to see your Secondary getting gouged.
See what I’m saying?
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See what i’m saying? I been sayin it a hundred times. Losing Nnamdi was messed up. it is no laughing matter. Throw a dog a bone Al. I been tellin you all this but everyone just thinks i’m blowin smoke up Als ass but im not. You got to have a quality defense that can stop the run and shut down the passing game if you want your d off the field and the offense to do what it is supposed to do.
Your D gives up 500+ yards back to back in preseason and it is cause for fcking concern. preseason or not. What kind of BS is that.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:03 am
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
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I was thinking the same thing. I was really pissed that we got rid of Marshall…thought he was making progress with that unit.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:05 am
What the preseason is showing us is that our back-ups on defense are REALLY REALLY weak. So when a starter goes down in the middle of the year the other teams will be having a feast going at whomever “steps up”.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:10 am
For all the DBs picked, I am not confident in any of them stepping in if CJ or Routt gets injured during the year.
For that matter, I am not confident on any of our back-up LBs stepping in. I mean…that’s scarey.
Our D-Line is at least a little deeper. We have Trevor Scott backing up is at least descent at End. We have a couple descent DTs backing up our starting two.
On WR, we don’t have any stars, but there isn’t a huge difference in play from Ford to Murphy, from Moore to Hagan. DHB…well….throw him shorter passes and he’ll have a higher percent chance of catching them. For the couple games when Chaz is healthy he’s also up there in the same range as the top 3-4.
On RB behind McFadden we have Bush without any huge drop off and now have Taiwan to fill in. On the O-line it’s a bit weaker, but on most positions except Left Tackle we could work around it without huge problems.
On TE, without Boss in there we have a descent pass catcher and descent run blocker as back-ups.
It’s the LBs and CBs which is REALLY REALLY BIG drop off from the starters to the back-ups.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:55 am
Lets keep it real simple this morning and break it down into the basics
We got our butts torn asunder the last nine years because we could not throw the ball, we could not run the ball, we could not catch the ball we could not block, we could not defend the pass. we could not defend the run at all, and we could not tackle. And we had a terrible club atmosphere.
It really is that simple
Last year for the first time in 9 years we passed some what decent, we ran excellent, we blocked very well, we defended the pass like pro bowlers, we made improvments in tackling and we made great strides in having a great club atmosphere. (I cant come up with a better word to describe it)
Today we have made huge leaps on the offense and it looks we will tear teams up.
The defense is a work in progress. We may have taken a step backwords, according to preseaon games, however I do not put much stock in that. We are 2 players away from being great on defense
The big deal is to stay healthy and hope that Hue can be a great head coach
BEST YEAR EVER !!!!!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:59 am
I dont usually take strong stands against Al however I wish Marshell was still here.
August 31st, 2011 at 5:32 am
Theres no way we DONT sign at least ONE linebacker between now and the start of the season. Sam Williams and Darryl Blackstock will NOT be our only depth at LB to start the season. Just cant happen
August 31st, 2011 at 5:36 am
Relax Bcz24. No way that we don’t sign another LB with over $5M in existing cap space. We just are waiting for the other shoe to drop on cutdown day. There’s gonna be a whole second wave of free agency. If we don’t sign anybody then….then I’ll be worried.
August 31st, 2011 at 5:38 am
Ny’ell Diggs should be brought in today. He was a 16 game starter for stl last year, and would be an upgrade over Groves for sure
August 31st, 2011 at 5:55 am
Jackson was asked about the long-term outlook of safety Mike Mitchell and wide receiver Chaz Schilens. Once again, Jackson dismissed their injuries as nothing major and said both will be back soon
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LOL!
August 31st, 2011 at 5:56 am
there are times when Campbell loses his cool, Satele said. When he does, look out.
“Yes, he gets mad,” Satele said. “One thing about him, that’s our mom. You don’t want to see our mom mad. He’s a great leader but once he gets mad, he opens up some eyes.”
Campbell has opened plenty of eyes with his leadership and comfort level this season
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where is JFB?
August 31st, 2011 at 5:58 am
“We are getting closer to the season,” Jackson said. “We’re getting closer to doing what we really get paid to do every
day, which is trying to win football games. Not that we’re not trying to win the preseason games, but once you come back here, the anxiety, the pressure of what we’re about to go do and embark on really heightens. Now, all of a sudden, it’s for real. Every game now has a won and loss that goes in that box and that’s what we’re truly doing it for.”
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Didn’t Hue Jackson say “If they’re keeping score, I want to win” regarding Preseason games?
Now that we’re 0-3 he says they don’t matter?
LOL!
August 31st, 2011 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!
So I guess Hue is saying that Chaz will be on the roster? I like Chaz, but he has NEVER been healthy for 16 DAM games! If he is not active for week 1 and we cut Hagan for that…I will be PI**D!
Huey Lewis and the News better be ready for Mile High week 1!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:01 am
Good Morning Rockstar! Now if he comes out (if we lose game 1 which I swear to gawd we better not!) and says, its just one game…:@
August 31st, 2011 at 6:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 5:55 am
Jackson was asked about the long-term outlook of safety Mike Mitchell and wide receiver Chaz Schilens. Once again, Jackson dismissed their injuries as nothing major and said both will be back soon
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LOL!
^^^
Next man up!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:10 am
Mitchell will be ready Week 5
Schilens will be ready Week 11
August 31st, 2011 at 6:12 am
How much pre-season records matter:
The 2006 Raiders who went 2-14 Bed & Breakfast style were 4-0.
The 2008 Detroit Lions, the only 0-16 team in NFL history, were also undefeated in pre-season
August 31st, 2011 at 6:13 am
RRS,
Schilens in Week 11? I didn’t know you were such an optimist!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:17 am
DIDNT THE RAIDERS PLAY IN THE HALL OF FAME PRESEASON GAME IN 2006 ?SEEMS LIKE IT WAS VS NEW ORLEANS..MY MEMORY AINT WHAT IT USED 2 BE..
August 31st, 2011 at 6:18 am
Good Morning Rockstar! Now if he comes out (if we lose game 1 which I swear to gawd we better not!) and says, its just one game
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Hwnrdr,
if we somehow lose to the Donks on MNF, somebody better be fired! no excuse for that …
Hue Jackson would probably say something about his play calling like “that was vanilla. you kiddin’ me? we’re not going to show those AFC East teams what we’re capable of!”
reporter: but you just lost a game to a division opponenent
HJ: is the season over? did I miss it? we have a lot of injured players getting ready to return and we’re not finished. we’re not throwing in the towel. we’re building a bully. it’s a process
August 31st, 2011 at 6:19 am
In 2006…didn’t we go 4-1 in pre-season? We had that Hall of Fame game, right?
August 31st, 2011 at 6:20 am
I didn’t know you were such an optimist!
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PA,
que Billy Bob Thornton from the movie ‘Friday Night Lights’
“My heart is full gentlemen”
August 31st, 2011 at 6:20 am
350.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:17 am
DIDNT THE RAIDERS PLAY IN THE HALL OF FAME PRESEASON GAME IN 2006 ?SEEMS LIKE IT WAS VS NEW ORLEANS..MY MEMORY AINT WHAT IT USED 2 BE..
Good Morning Dirt Lot…wasn’t it Philly? I know, you and me both in regards to memory!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:20 am
352.hwnrdr Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:19 am
In 2006…didn’t we go 4-1 in pre-season? We had that Hall of Fame game, right?
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Forgot about that.
Still, who was expecting the worst team in Raiders history after that pre-season?
August 31st, 2011 at 6:21 am
Isn’t it about time for Al to put out a press release talking about how DHB is going to light up the league this year?
August 31st, 2011 at 6:25 am
S&BPA…I know right? I thought Art Shell was back!!! But, we all should have known…Tom Friggen Walsh! Really???
August 31st, 2011 at 6:29 am
357.hwnrdr Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:25 am
S&BPA…I know right? I thought Art Shell was back!!! But, we all should have known…Tom Friggen Walsh! Really???
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I know. I was too blinded by the return of Shell. Though he’d wind up his unfinished business. oops.
That season is why the “build a bully” talk makes a uneasy. Great idea in theory, but I also remember Gallery saying before the 2006 season that the Raiders were gonna push people around that year.
His performance against Shawne Merriman in the opener that year ranks right up there with Winston Justice against Osi Umenyiora as the Worst Left Tackle Performances of All Time.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:34 am
where is JFB?
He is having a very hard time. The past couple weeks have dealt him a devestating blow
August 31st, 2011 at 6:37 am
Plunk,
ROG knows where to score some blow as well
August 31st, 2011 at 6:38 am
I believe Hue Jackson and his build a bully. Me & Hue are from the same generation, born the same year, we both grew up Raider fans. No, I don’t know Hue, but I can relate. Anyone growing up back then knew what the Raiders were about. Intimidation.
Pride & Poise, the Mystique, commitment to excellence…
It takes an attitude first off, a swagger. You can’t win without it. Hue Jackson has it in spades.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:44 am
Its like I tell the younger generation…It must be hard knowing that the last Championship you weren’t born yet. I have seen the glory years and then all the bad that came after. I am glad I have got to see The Riaders win 3 Super Bowls, but darn…I want to see another one…soon!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:45 am
Top of the morning good people!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:47 am
There are talk of Patriots dropping Brandon Tate, and Seashawks dropping Golden Tate…
It could be funny with two Tate’s on the team, if they get cut, lets take a looksee…
August 31st, 2011 at 6:49 am
There are talk of Patriots dropping Brandon Tate, and Seashawks dropping Golden Tate…
It could be funny with two Tate’s on the team, if they get cut, lets take a looksee…
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LMN,
we’re good at WR as soon as we drop Nick Miller
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Schilens, Moore & Hagan
August 31st, 2011 at 6:50 am
If your plan is to drop DHB & Chaz … you’d better consult Team Davis, first
August 31st, 2011 at 6:50 am
I HOPE SO GUEST123.I DONT SEE IT.WHEN HE TALKS OR ON THE SIDELINE,(THREE PRESEASON GAMES ONLY)LET US SEE HOW THIS TEAM REACTS AFTER BIG WINS AND HARD LOSSES.THERE WILL BE BOTH.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:52 am
I would be surprised if the Patsies drop Brandon Tate. He is the last deep threat they have, and he is a pretty decent returner.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:53 am
That preseason we went 4-1, you could tell there was trouble on the horizon. Our starters were getting their arsses kicked all over the place. The scrubs were the ones scoing and making the games interesting at the end.
Our offense is LEGIT this season.
Can’t wait!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:53 am
Hey Dirt Lot…when is the next game you’ll be at? After the Jets game, since I have to work that day
August 31st, 2011 at 6:55 am
JHill, and you’re right…opening night against SD…LT had a friggen field day! Shawne Merrimen terrorized Aaron Brooks, and … yeah…Robert Gallery…yeah…
August 31st, 2011 at 6:55 am
No doubt Dirt-Lot Football,
No doubt…
This team is going to see a lot of adversity. No one is looking past them. When they get off to a fast start, (I predict they will at least be 2-0), then they are going to have to deal with the haters on the East Coast that dismiss them as the worst 2-0 team in football….yada yada…idiot nonsense….just wait till they play the Patriots and Jets….yada yada…
Hue is going to keep them on the target and above all else, have a nasty demeanor out on the field. Make em flinch when we approach the line.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:56 am
CLEVELAND 16-OCTOBER..
August 31st, 2011 at 6:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:44 am
Its like I tell the younger generation…It must be hard knowing that the last Championship you weren’t born yet. I have seen the glory years and then all the bad that came after. I am glad I have got to see The Riaders win 3 Super Bowls, but darn…I want to see another one…soon!
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Amen brother!
I was 11 years old when they won the first Super Bowl and 19 when they won the last one and it’s been a loooong time since those glory days! It’s tough trying to get my 6 year old son and my wife of 9 years to believe that they were ever that good!They don’t understand why they have to put on their Stabler jerseys every Sunday and cheer for these guys but i am relentless in my chase for those glory days again!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 6:58 am
BCZ,
are the NY Giants helping or hurting Eli Manning?
a few years ago they stripped away Jeremy Shockey, Sinorice Moss & David Tyree
Plax not welcome back after prison term.
Now they lost Hagan & Boss to Oakland. Steve Smith to Philly. Ramses Barden on the PUP list
Michael Clayton & Domenik Hixon = good enough behind Nicks & Manningham ???
August 31st, 2011 at 6:59 am
Dirt Lot,
has Cleveland played a meaningful game in October the past 20 years ?
August 31st, 2011 at 6:59 am
The offense is gonna be ok,I am worried about our defense,I am concenred with this C.Breshnahan. When he was here as the D-coor during chuckys tenure, we had the type of players that overcame a scheme that to me was entirely to soft. W.Thomas,E.Allen,R.Woodson,B Romanowski…etc. Now this guy is coming in here with this soft scheme and you can tell,it almost looks like read and react, it does not look like the attacking scheme that J.Marshall had going here last year.
Plus we need to look at some diff LB’s that are still out there, maybe Dhani Jones-Bengals, Chase Blackburn-Giants, Keith Bulluck-Giants, Na’il Diggs-Rams. Either one of these guys has to be better that Q.Groves.
Our Offense is gonna be a Beast, But Bresnahan will set our defense back—IMO should have AL should have kept Marshall, bcus Breshnahan is not an improvement, however despite the flawed scheme anyone of the above LB’s mentioned should help more that Q.Groves.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:00 am
David Teel of the Newport News Daily Press reports that, based on Vick receiving $20 million in 2011, $6.76 million will go to creditors, $8 million will go to taxes, and Vick will receive net pay of $5.24 million.
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Ouch!
8 million in taxes????
August 31st, 2011 at 7:02 am
I CANT REMEMBER ANY ROCKSTAR..BEEN AWHILE 4 THE RAIDERS TO..
August 31st, 2011 at 7:02 am
Yeah Marty, Hwnrdr….old school brethren…
I don’t predict the SuperBowl, or even the playoffs. Like Mr T said, I predict pain.
Build that bully Hue!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:05 am
ddwight Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:59 am
The offense is gonna be ok,I am worried about our defense,I am concenred with this C.Breshnahan. When he was here as the D-coor during chuckys tenure, we had the type of players that overcame a scheme that to me was entirely to soft. W.Thomas,E.Allen,R.Woodson,B Romanowski…etc. Now this guy is coming in here with this soft scheme and you can tell,it almost looks like read and react, it does not look like the attacking scheme that J.Marshall had going here last year.
Plus we need to look at some diff LB’s that are still out there, maybe Dhani Jones-Bengals, Chase Blackburn-Giants, Keith Bulluck-Giants, Na’il Diggs-Rams. Either one of these guys has to be better that Q.Groves.
Our Offense is gonna be a Beast, But Bresnahan will set our defense back—IMO should have AL should have kept Marshall, bcus Breshnahan is not an improvement, however despite the flawed scheme anyone of the above LB’s mentioned should help more that Q.Groves.
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Great contribution to this blog Ddwight, Could not agree more, and I was vocally against Marshall’s ouster when it was rumored back in December by Jerry. Dipchit move by Al to turn Marshall loose.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:10 am
Noone took the hook for JFB.
He is ok, I was just gonna give him a hard time about the Giants
August 31st, 2011 at 7:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:49 am
There are talk of Patriots dropping Brandon Tate, and Seashawks dropping Golden Tate…
It could be funny with two Tate’s on the team, if they get cut, lets take a looksee…
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LMN,
we’re good at WR as soon as we drop Nick Miller
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Schilens, Moore & Hagan
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HAh, NO..
DHB cant catch a cold..
Murphy, injured during camp, we have no clue if last year was a fluke..
Ford, same as Murphy..
Schilens, wont be able to contribute for more than a game and a half, cut him now
Moore, a really great prospect, maybe our best receiver..
Hagan, I liked him as NYG-player so I was really psyched about us getting him, it was what the doctor ordered… problem is, he has only had one good game for us..
so when you look at our receivers, we are not good at WR, we are barely adequate…
August 31st, 2011 at 7:14 am
380.guest123 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:02 am
Yeah Marty, Hwnrdr….old school brethren…
I don’t predict the SuperBowl, or even the playoffs. Like Mr T said, I predict pain.
Build that bully Hue!
you know that is one of my fave movie lines…”Mr. Lang, what is your prediction for the fight? Prediction? PAIN!!!” Gotta Love it!
373.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:56 am
CLEVELAND 16-OCTOBER..
Dirt Lot…I’ll meet up with you then!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:15 am
Hell, I’ll take adequate at the WR position. We haven’t been adequate in many years. It’s been a weakness that held us back. Now, if we continue to dominate on the ground, an “adequate” passing game is going to be lethal. If we ground and pound mix with timely completions that move the chains…it’s all spelling out a recipe that includes long stretches for the defense to sit on the sidelines and ride stationary bikes. When they get in, the front 7 should tear through and pin the ears back and play downhill.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:16 am
Rockstar…I have a good friend who is a Giants (NY, not SF) Fan and she was quite upset about the Giants getting rid of everyone!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:20 am
Rock, Re the Giants, losing Boss really hurts Eli, butt their doctors really believed Smith wouldnt be ready before the midway point, so that wasnt a suprise. What they REALLY need to do is bring in REAL competition for Eli. Not Carr. They need to draft a kid in round 2 to light a fire under Eli’s as$ and get some better play out of him. I dont think they are in bad shap at WR right now though.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:23 am
Eli is just not a good QB, and the media makes him out to be a great one. He’s not good reading the defense, and is a turnover machine. Hagan has a much better QB in JCamp throwing him the ball.
You watch the G-Men this year, they are going to be the suck.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:26 am
I’m trying to understand “Chuck B’s” scheme????
We are running the same defense we ran last year.
Big Nickle and all.
Only difference so far had been DVD at RCB instead of 21.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:26 am
374.raidermarty Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:44 am
Its like I tell the younger generation…It must be hard knowing that the last Championship you weren’t born yet. I have seen the glory years and then all the bad that came after. I am glad I have got to see The Riaders win 3 Super Bowls, but darn…I want to see another one…soon!
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Amen brother!
I was 11 years old when they won the first Super Bowl and 19 when they won the last one and it’s been a loooong time since those glory days! It’s tough trying to get my 6 year old son and my wife of 9 years to believe that they were ever that good!They don’t understand why they have to put on their Stabler jerseys every Sunday and cheer for these guys but i am relentless in my chase for those glory days again!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
I hear ya! My son, who will be 9 next month asked me one time…why do I like the Raiders when they always lose? I told him two things: One, I don’t EVER want to hear that coming from his mouth again, and two, it’s in my blood, and it is now in yours! My wife knows…she ever tries to cheer against the Raiders, she can go back home to her dad! LOL…I kid at times, but she knows it!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:28 am
I broke up with a girl on the Sunday of our AFC championship game in 2002. She wanted to do something ghey… dont remember what but I was like HELL NO the Raiders in the AFC championship game. She said choose me or the Raiders. I promptly showed her the door.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:32 am
Where did Marshall go after being let go in Raider land? I honestly don’t think the idea was to make Breshnehan the D-Coordinator. I think they were going after others that they couldn’t land and were stuck with him. I think they should’ve just resigned Marshall.
On our WR, it’s the deepest we’ve had it in quite a few years. The good news is the drop from #1 to #5 is not that large. Moore, Ford, Murphy, Hagan and Chaz when/if healthy are all at quite a similar level. All would be #2 or #3 receivers on most teams, but they’re all burners except for Hagan so each is a threat to break away on any play. Probably Moore & Hagan have the best hands out of them with Ford having the biggest “flash” ability. I don’t think DHB is on that same level as them right now. Maybe by year 4 or 5.
Our RBs is similarly deep, except we have two RBs who would start on most teams and now a 3rd who looks to be pretty exciting.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:33 am
J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:26 am
I’m trying to understand “Chuck B’s” scheme????
We are running the same defense we ran last year.
Big Nickle and all.
Only difference so far had been DVD at RCB instead of 21.
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And new terminology which is confusing the players and making them hesitant.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:35 am
“I cannot lose I cannot lose that’s why I try”
August 31st, 2011 at 7:37 am
good morning LMN, Bcz24, Plunketthead, HWNrdr, Dirtlot, Jhill, RR,… NATION.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:37 am
Bcz….that’s awesome! That broad was trying to make you into her litttle lap dog. Btch better know better than to do that to a Raider man
August 31st, 2011 at 7:38 am
bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:28 am
I broke up with a girl on the Sunday of our AFC championship game in 2002. She wanted to do something ghey… dont remember what but I was like HELL NO the Raiders in the AFC championship game. She said choose me or the Raiders. I promptly showed her the door.
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Sounds like a headcase b,,h that if you hadn’t done that, she’d have pushed harder and pretty soon, you’d be going to crochet classes on Sundays. Good call showing her the door.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:40 am
bcz, the last time the Raiders were good was when you were with that girl. I blame you for the Raiders’ woes since.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:40 am
Oh yeah, she was a stage 5 clinger anyways. She wanted me to move in with her after like 3 weeks… I was like no thanks, I cant even remember your last name yet, Im not moving in with you. Fckn whackadoos.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:41 am
398.Ryan Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:40 am
bcz, the last time the Raiders were good was when you were with that girl. I blame you for the Raiders’ woes since.
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LOL I guess I better go find the old bug-a-dude and hook back up with her then…
August 31st, 2011 at 7:42 am
Damn its only wednesday? lol friday needs to get here fast….ready to get my 3 day weekend a going
August 31st, 2011 at 7:43 am
I know that type…I once knew this chick who was a few years older than me at the time…bought her a few drinks, and then she starts asking if she can move in with her 7 year old son. I’m like sneaking out the bathroom window. Stage 5 clingers are the worst.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:43 am
Just because we have the same Defensive play book, doesn’t mean Chuck is applying it the same as Marshell, or even correctly.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:43 am
B
I am going to LMAO if you ask Kelly those questions today.
I am super duper serial manbearpig!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:45 am
Oooh, Tommie Kelly chat today. Can’t wait.
Moderator: “And our first question is from Brien in Hayward”……
August 31st, 2011 at 7:48 am
666….i highly doubt they let my questions pass thru…..most everyone else will be pssies and ask run of the mill BS so Kelly can give us sum standard crap responses
August 31st, 2011 at 7:48 am
Yall much too hard on TK. I hope you give him some love today.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:51 am
405.Seymour Bush Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:45 am
Oooh, Tommie Kelly chat today. Can’t wait.
Moderator: “And our first question is from Brien in Hayward”……
HAHA! Question? I think it will be more like, you Expletive, expletive…What’s up B? You know it’s all good!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:53 am
I’ll buy Corkran a new car if he lets this one through:
“Mr. Kelly, can you explain why you only became a useful starter when Richard Seymour arrived to draw all the double teams away? Follow-up: why can Seymour beat those double teams and you can’t?”
August 31st, 2011 at 7:54 am
Sup Hwnrdr! I was nice and faded on Sunday! Hopefully next I can swing more than two bzies around with more Clear Remy!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:55 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:51 am
405.Seymour Bush Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:45 am
Oooh, Tommie Kelly chat today. Can’t wait.
Moderator: “And our first question is from Brien in Hayward”……
HAHA! Question? I think it will be more like, you Expletive, expletive…What’s up B? You know it’s all good!
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I was thinking more on the lines of:
Our first question is from Brien in Hayward:
B: “Why do suck so bad a**hol*?”
Or maybe the more popular
B: “Why have you sucked up money and then sucked on the field, a**hole sucker?”
August 31st, 2011 at 7:57 am
Yeah I think that Remy did me in on Sunday! LOL…my friend asked me on Monday who’s numbers were that on his phone…haha!
August 31st, 2011 at 7:58 am
I would have hoped for better trash talk than that, if you want to disrespect. Gotta do better than 5th grade level chatter.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:58 am
Moderator: “And our first question is from Brien in Hayward”……
“do you feel its fair when we compare you to Bernie Madoff?”
August 31st, 2011 at 7:59 am
Actually I think Kelly has played better than people in here give him credit for. And his contract now, is not that out of control as it seemed at the time with the signings of Suh and the higher DLine valuations.
That is also exactly why they gt Seymour: to take some of the doubles off of Tommie. Incidently, Sey has not played much this preseason, while Kelly has gone out there in meaningless games. That says something right there.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:00 am
Next question….”is there any other player in the league that has been paid more money than you and done less on the field….besides Jamarcus Russell”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:01 am
414.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:58 am
Moderator: “And our first question is from Brien in Hayward”……
“do you feel its fair when we compare you to Bernie Madoff?”
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post of the day
August 31st, 2011 at 8:01 am
If you get tj out from under Al’s desk i’ll go in and let the old man know what time it is.
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 6:50 am
If your plan is to drop DHB & Chaz … you’d better consult Team Davis, first
August 31st, 2011 at 8:02 am
Last question…..is manbearpig real?
TK….”Yes I get beat by him every Sunday at the LOS”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:03 am
HUMP DAY.
Obviously
August 31st, 2011 at 8:04 am
389.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:26 am
I’m trying to understand “Chuck B’s” scheme????
We are running the same defense we ran last year.
Big Nickle and all.
Only difference so far had been DVD at RCB instead of 21.
Is it really the same scheme? I mean how can the change of just 1 player (mind you a very good one), cause the whole unit to look so different & indecisive, it doesnt look quite the same to me, but I know that we will know a lot more after the season starts. There is definetly no doubt however that teams will be attacking us on the edges where we are vulnerable, there more LB’s available,bcus Q.Groves is not a starter…what would it hurt to bring in Dhani Jones,Keith Bulluck,or a Na’il Diggs…for some reason I got a feeling that Lofa Tatupu knees may be gone.
But the jury is still out as far as im concerned on this C.Breshnahan—time will definitely tell.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:05 am
SilverNBlackPA
I stole that line from Method to my Madness. I cant take credit for it.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:14 am
Once a-mthfkin-gain the mods have been hating on my posts the last 15 minutes…..so weak
August 31st, 2011 at 8:15 am
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August 31st, 2011 at 8:16 am
You mods hate the truth and applaud cowardice while abhorring courage…..thats typical ofthe bay area media….you mods at the tribune are the worse. You sack lacking ingrates outta beg for the B@uce to post here as much as possible. I’m willing to bet everything your women have little to zero respect for you cuz you guys dont know how to stand up like REAL MEN
August 31st, 2011 at 8:17 am
Tommy Kelly…..How come when you intially dont have a guard beat you give up on the play quicker than Lindsey Lohan at a Rehab clinic?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:18 am
426.Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:17 am
Tommy Kelly…..How come when you intially dont have a guard beat you give up on the play quicker than Lindsey Lohan at a Rehab clinic?
OUCH! LOL
August 31st, 2011 at 8:21 am
Tom Kelly….were you a Filipino prostitute in your past life……because you sure are on your back a lot?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:22 am
I don’t think even they have that big of a rear end to be shown on National TV…
August 31st, 2011 at 8:22 am
Jon Becker and company….how can yall look in the mirror and see yourselves as men? You try to censor grown men in of all blogs a RAIDER blog. You too sensitive? I remind you of your dad and his austere ways?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:24 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:53 am
I’ll buy Corkran a new car if he lets this one through:
“Mr. Kelly, can you explain why you only became a useful starter when Richard Seymour arrived to draw all the double teams away? Follow-up: why can Seymour beat those double teams and you can’t?”
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Really?
Answer: because I am not good enough to beat the double very often.
2nd: Richard Seymour is better than me.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:24 am
Tommy Kelly…..with how you constantly go backwards on run plays….tell us how much of a influence Warren Sapp was on your playing style?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:26 am
Tommy Kelly…….with you having a Rick Ross type beard….how come everyday you are not “HUSTLIN”?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:27 am
Dirty Raccoon,
I know those are the answers, it would just be hilarious to see him have to answer it
August 31st, 2011 at 8:27 am
Tommy Kelly….what plans do you have after your so called football career is over? Become a public speaker?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:28 am
“Tommy Kelly…..with how you constantly go backwards on run plays….tell us how much of a influence Warren Sapp was on your playing style?”
TK “some guys have a great 1st gear some have a great 2nd gear I happen to have a fantastic reverse!”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:28 am
Tommy Kelly….how do you feel knowing more people are not falling for this bogus idea that you are a pro bowl type player?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:29 am
436.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:28 am
“Tommy Kelly…..with how you constantly go backwards on run plays….tell us how much of a influence Warren Sapp was on your playing style?”
TK “some guys have a great 1st gear some have a great 2nd gear I happen to have a fantastic reverse!”
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HAHAHAHA
August 31st, 2011 at 8:29 am
401.Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:42 am
Damn its only wednesday? lol friday needs to get here fast….ready to get my 3 day weekend a going
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Word up… I took a vaca day Friday so I have a 4 day weekend. Shnooogins!
August 31st, 2011 at 8:29 am
“Tommy Kelly….what plans do you have after your so called football career is over? Become a public speaker?”
TK..”I am going to be one of those guys you see backing up semi trailers because I am so good in reverse”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:30 am
Tommy Kelly….how surprised were you last year when you teammates had alot of sympathy for your pathetic play when they gave you the defensive MVP of the team award?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:30 am
“Tommy Kelly….how do you feel knowing more people are not falling for this bogus idea that you are a pro bowl type player?”
TK…” I still have the old man fooled and he signs my checks….as long as Herrera stays on diaper duty I am a happy camper”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:31 am
HAHAHAHAHA you guys are funny…..ill be right back…..gotta talk to my Boss lol
August 31st, 2011 at 8:31 am
TK…” I still have the old man fooled and he signs my checks….as long as Herrera stays on diaper duty I am a happy camper”
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Michael Kelly?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:33 am
Tommy Kelly….how surprised were you last year when you teammates had alot of sympathy for your pathetic play when they gave you the defensive MVP of the team award?
TK….”I was more surprised to see Manbearpig was the one presenting the award”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:34 am
How come thee name “Tommy Kelly” never comes over the loud speaker?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:38 am
“How come thee name “Tommy Kelly” never comes over the loud speaker?”
It does sometimes you hear that “BEEP BEEP” reverse sound when a truck backs up”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:38 am
I’m sure you guys are clever enough to get in some questions to TK that won’t be censored.
How about …
What do you say to your detractors out there who blame you for the shotty run defense?
Or ..
In most situations, is it true that you line up one on one with a OG? If so, don’t you think with your skillset, that should be a mismatch in your favor?
Or …
Could you please explain to us what the Raiders expect you to do on that defensive line?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:40 am
448.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:38 am
I’m sure you guys are clever enough to get in some questions to TK that won’t be censored.
How about …
What do you say to your detractors out there who blame you for the shotty run defense?
Or ..
In most situations, is it true that you line up one on one with a OG? If so, don’t you think with your skillset, that should be a mismatch in your favor?
Or …
Could you please explain to us what the Raiders expect you to do on that defensive line?
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
August 31st, 2011 at 8:44 am
I for one think that the first 10 minutes of the chat should be questions strictly from B.
I think that would be HILARIOUS.
Let the cussin and disrepecting flow.
I’m pretty sure TK could hold his own and would give us some classic responses.
I’m sure after about 3 minutes, it would degenrate into a simple you suck exchange, lol. Or some variation of that.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:45 am
TK is a country wordsmith. He’ll duel with B for sure.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:46 am
Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
Ndamukong Suh 2010 stats 70 tackles 10.0 sacks
Julius Peppers 2010 stats 54 takles 8.0 sacks
Kevin Williams 2010 stats 39 tackles 1 sacks
Justin Smith 2010 stats 70 tackles 8.5 sacks
August 31st, 2011 at 8:46 am
B,
If we started Houston Seymour Henderson ShoNasty don’t you think OCs would simply pass on us on 1st and 2nd down?
That lineup give us basically no pressure on the QB.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:48 am
451.LA to TheBay Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:45 am
TK is a country wordsmith. He’ll duel with B for sure.
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Yeah, I got TK landign a couple head slaps to the earhole.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:48 am
J,
Not the ideal pass-rush arrangement but I think LaMarr could bust through with Seymour eating up that double team and Big John clogging things up.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:48 am
Yeah Matt-Seymour-Kelly_Houston sure get alot of pressure lol
August 31st, 2011 at 8:49 am
TK and Seymour may have some work to do on the run, but they collapse the pocket quick and make the QB chase out to the outside or make snap checkdowns.
TK & Seymour…I appreciate.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:50 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:48 am
Yeah Matt-Seymour-Kelly_Houston sure get alot of pressure lol
best DL in NFL in sacks last year
August 31st, 2011 at 8:50 am
452.inonewordraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:46 am
Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
Ndamukong Suh 2010 stats 70 tackles 10.0 sacks
Julius Peppers 2010 stats 54 takles 8.0 sacks
Kevin Williams 2010 stats 39 tackles 1 sacks
Justin Smith 2010 stats 70 tackles 8.5 sacks
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Damn!
TK put up numbers that rival the best DL studs in thye league?
Who da thunk it?
August 31st, 2011 at 8:51 am
450.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:44 am
I for one think that the first 10 minutes of the chat should be questions strictly from B.
I think that would be HILARIOUS.
Let the cussin and disrepecting flow.
I’m pretty sure TK could hold his own and would give us some classic responses.
I’m sure after about 3 minutes, it would degenrate into a simple you suck exchange, lol. Or some variation of that.
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Best 3 minutes of your lives
August 31st, 2011 at 8:52 am
459.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:50 am
452.inonewordraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:46 am
Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
Ndamukong Suh 2010 stats 70 tackles 10.0 sacks
Julius Peppers 2010 stats 54 takles 8.0 sacks
Kevin Williams 2010 stats 39 tackles 1 sacks
Justin Smith 2010 stats 70 tackles 8.5 sacks
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Damn!
TK put up numbers that rival the best DL studs in thye league?
Who da thunk it?
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HAHA perfect proof stats are misleading
August 31st, 2011 at 8:53 am
LA,
B tells us that Seymour would NEVER see a double team if he was to play TKs spot. TK liness up directly in front of the OG while Seymour lines up in the gap between the other OG and C.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:55 am
462.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:53 am
LA,
B tells us that Seymour would NEVER see a double team if he was to play TKs spot. TK liness up directly in front of the OG while Seymour lines up in the gap between the other OG and C.
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They would double Hendu for sure…issue is run defense right? Next
August 31st, 2011 at 8:58 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:38 am
“How come thee name “Tommy Kelly” never comes over the loud speaker?”
It does sometimes you hear that “BEEP BEEP” reverse sound when a truck backs up”
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That’s some funny Shizuoka right there… Ha ha ha ha ha
August 31st, 2011 at 8:59 am
Perfect proof he almost made the probowl because that’s how the rest of them made it. If he has a better season this year he will be in the probowl.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:59 am
Yeah Matt-Seymour-Kelly_Houston sure get alot of pressure lol
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Like InOneWord said, best DL in the league in terms of sacks.
Now are you going to answer the question about Houston-Seymour-Henderson-ShoNasty?
Are are you conceding that that lineup would generate no pressure on the QB and they would just audible to pass plays?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:00 am
Think Tommy Kelly will actually look at the blog comments before the live chat?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:00 am
listening to a sports show called zack and jack in the morning on 570 am in LA the biggest sports talk radio station in LA and both guys predicted the AFC west standings to be 1. Chargers 2. Chiefs 3. Broncos 4. Raiders
August 31st, 2011 at 9:01 am
issue is run defense right? Next
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NO!
The issue is TOTAL defense.
Our biggest issue is 3rd down defense!
We get in countless 3rd downs and just can’t get off the field.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:02 am
So the run-defense problems according to Steve C are the D-Ends? Also Steve C said that Houston is going about his business and doing his job? So the whole run-defense is the fault of Sho-Nasty?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:03 am
Why are ya’ll hating on Tommy? Is it cause of this preseason? It can’t be cause how he played last year, he was a beast, the whole D line was.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:06 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:00 am
listening to a sports show called zack and jack in the morning on 570 am in LA the biggest sports talk radio station in LA and both guys predicted the AFC west standings to be 1. Chargers 2. Chiefs 3. Broncos 4. Raiders
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two men who purposely rhyme their first names. They sound ghey. What are u listening to down there? Got to be better choices.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:08 am
Realtruraider Be careful this is bad territory you’re entering TK is suppposed to be hated in here and you’re bucking the trend………..LOL
Forget reality this blog states he SUCKS!!
The same way they decided Nnamdi sucks….
August 31st, 2011 at 9:09 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:00 am
listening to a sports show called zack and jack in the morning on 570 am in LA the biggest sports talk radio station in LA and both guys predicted the AFC west standings to be 1. Chargers 2. Chiefs 3. Broncos 4. Raiders
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what did they base the above on?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:09 am
We need some Lito Shepherd updates!
August 31st, 2011 at 9:09 am
466.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:59 am
Yeah Matt-Seymour-Kelly_Houston sure get alot of pressure lol
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Like InOneWord said, best DL in the league in terms of sacks.
Now are you going to answer the question about Houston-Seymour-Henderson-ShoNasty?
Are are you conceding that that lineup would generate no pressure on the QB and they would just audible to pass plays?
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In terms on sacks? How many were coverage sacks? Do you forget about the OLB sliding down to up those numbers?
My proposed lineup is just as fine and get pressure on QB….DTs first job is the run….duh
August 31st, 2011 at 9:10 am
469.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:01 am
issue is run defense right? Next
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NO!
The issue is TOTAL defense.
Our biggest issue is 3rd down defense!
We get in countless 3rd downs and just can’t get off the field.
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Yeah well when they have 3rd and 2 all day of course its trouble….not like we putting them alot in 3rd and 9!…..NEXT
August 31st, 2011 at 9:10 am
listening to a sports show called zack and jack in the morning on 570 am in LA
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Lets see how long it takes them to start kissin A$$ when the winning happens…
August 31st, 2011 at 9:10 am
465.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:59 am
Perfect proof he almost made the probowl because that’s how the rest of them made it. If he has a better season this year he will be in the probowl.
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Played every spot on dline…..run defense still stinks…..any thoughts?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:13 am
469.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:01 am
issue is run defense right? Next
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NO!
The issue is TOTAL defense.
Our biggest issue is 3rd down defense!
We get in countless 3rd downs and just can’t get off the field.
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This is exact proof why we still are failing onthe field…..its blind followings like this that do it
August 31st, 2011 at 9:13 am
you guys dont wanna win…i’m convinced
August 31st, 2011 at 9:14 am
As I keep saying…yall wants dessert and side dishes….no meat and potatoes….yall are part ofthe problem too
August 31st, 2011 at 9:15 am
We haven’t yet seen the defense. Hue’s been holden em back. We get big Rich and CJ37 back things will be a lot different. The scheme will be different. No rookie CB on the field anymore. No weaknesses. Lots of 3 and outs for the Donkeys. Hue’s just hiding his hole card. Prepare to be surprised.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:15 am
And BHP fk the pro bowl
August 31st, 2011 at 9:16 am
duh … NEXT …
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Weak, basic, run out of ammo material.
You are in the minority with your opinion.
Might as well move on to the next topic.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:18 am
I hope this blog represents like true fans, and gives TK his respect. He’s done a lot to improve himself and the team. You can’t lay the run D on all on TK.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:19 am
B as I’ve said a thousand times you blaming the run D on one player is ludicrous TK had a spectacular year last year by anyones standards the only player who was head and shoulders better was Suh. You refuse to take the blinders off and see how run D is atcually played. My suggestion to you is take a few games and watch how the Steelers and Ravens play run D. Watch how the entire 11 men on D have to be accountable not just ONE DT no matter how good he is. If you don’t stay disciplined and stay in gaps and tackle. I’m talking about all 11 players your run D will suffer………………period
August 31st, 2011 at 9:19 am
I thought Kelly played pretty solid last year. I wouldn’t have said that years before. I would have said he did nothing to deserve that contract before he got paid it and didn’t do anything since to validate being the highest paid DT at the time.
Last year I think he played at a much higher level.
I don’t think there are 20 DTs I would’ve preferred to play instead of him in the league.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:22 am
485.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:16 am
duh … NEXT …
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Weak, basic, run out of ammo material.
You are in the minority with your opinion.
Might as well move on to the next topic.
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Actually you are wrong…..I have all the ammo when the first thing in a DT’s job description is stopping the run
Being in the minority for being right? I’ll take it everytime….I dont follow I LEAD buddy
August 31st, 2011 at 9:24 am
487.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:19 am
B as I’ve said a thousand times you blaming the run D on one player is ludicrous TK had a spectacular year last year by anyones standards the only player who was head and shoulders better was Suh. You refuse to take the blinders off and see how run D is atcually played. My suggestion to you is take a few games and watch how the Steelers and Ravens play run D. Watch how the entire 11 men on D have to be accountable not just ONE DT no matter how good he is. If you don’t stay disciplined and stay in gaps and tackle. I’m talking about all 11 players your run D will suffer………………period
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BLAH BLAH its more excuses…..he never had a spectacular year and never will….he stinks is one dimnesional and quits on plays
August 31st, 2011 at 9:25 am
We only have a few people on this blog who wanna win
August 31st, 2011 at 9:25 am
Then why wont teams run directly at him why did the firtyniners run wide instead of straight at him?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:25 am
Kelly isnt a starter anywhere else in the NFL unless its the Broncos lol
August 31st, 2011 at 9:26 am
I dont follow I LEAD buddy
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Gotcha.
YOU think TK sucks, end of story.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:26 am
492.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:25 am
Then why wont teams run directly at him why did the firtyniners run wide instead of straight at him?
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This is full bull…..teams run right at him all the time….if they run up the middle its right at him….and niners did you old fool! Kelly was just nowhere to be found as usual lol
August 31st, 2011 at 9:27 am
494.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:26 am
I dont follow I LEAD buddy
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Gotcha.
YOU think TK sucks, end of story.
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2004-2010…..I know he sucks….just like I know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west
August 31st, 2011 at 9:28 am
BHP I love ya man….but you homer so much you cant even see when certain guys suck…..Farglass…DHB…Russell and Kelly now
August 31st, 2011 at 9:31 am
I think it’s hilarious that you say how stupid drunk and high you get BEFORE each game in the lot, how you are constantly on Bzs DURING the game, but we are supposed to believe your analysis over guys who watch the games, record them and review play by plays.
Do you ever record a game and actually watch the players you bash?
Or are you just going with your drunk and high end zone view?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:32 am
477.Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:10 am
469.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:01 am
issue is run defense right? Next
—————————————————–
NO!
The issue is TOTAL defense.
Our biggest issue is 3rd down defense!
We get in countless 3rd downs and just can’t get off the field.
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Yeah well when they have 3rd and 2 all day of course its trouble….not like we putting them alot in 3rd and 9!…..NEXT
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The D needs to start blitzing on 1st or 2nd down and get to the QB.
They can’t be predictable and just blitz on every other 3rd down series of plays.
Predictable and useless.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:33 am
498.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:31 am
I think it’s hilarious that you say how stupid drunk and high you get BEFORE each game in the lot, how you are constantly on Bzs DURING the game, but we are supposed to believe your analysis over guys who watch the games, record them and review play by plays.
Do you ever record a game and actually watch the players you bash?
Or are you just going with your drunk and high end zone view?
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Dont even trip on me being high or drunk…..im still dope as fk. And hey I see the games on TV as well…uncle and grandpa record em all…..NEXT
August 31st, 2011 at 9:33 am
2004-2010…..I know he sucks….
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Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
OK so if TK is not one of our problems vs the run then who is?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
I don’t think out starting unit on defense is all that bad. What worries me is any units coming in (nickel, dime) or if anyone gets injured, we’re screwed. Our depth on defense SUCKS!
I don’t think Brees passes like that against us if DVD isn’t out there. 5 out of his first 6 completions went to DVD. CJ would’ve been better in that coverage.
Aside from that, most of the yardage came after our 1st team defense was out. But, if they go 3 wide or 4 wide, we’re screwed. We had the #2 or #3 pass defense last year and each of the past few it’s been in the top 5 – 10. This year I don’t see it. I see us at best middle-of-the pack.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:36 am
And Jhill….i was on the bzies after halftime of preseason games…..during season while game is on aint no time for them….now before and after is different story bruh
August 31st, 2011 at 9:36 am
501.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:33 am
2004-2010…..I know he sucks….
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Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
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You not really comparing these two right? Ngata has never sucked in the NFL
August 31st, 2011 at 9:36 am
Dont even trip on me being high or drunk…..im still dope as fk.
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LOL!
I’m sure you are.
Just let us know the next time you are at GMom’s house rewatching a game so you can be a bit more specific and show me on “film” where you think TK is on skates.
If it’s that obvious, it should be on film right?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:37 am
502.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
OK so if TK is not one of our problems vs the run then who is?
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It takes 11 men blah blah blah, but yet we still cant find 11 men to handle biz
August 31st, 2011 at 9:38 am
506.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:36 am
Dont even trip on me being high or drunk…..im still dope as fk.
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LOL!
I’m sure you are.
Just let us know the next time you are at GMom’s house rewatching a game so you can be a bit more specific and show me on “film” where you think TK is on skates.
If it’s that obvious, it should be on film right?
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Grandpa been saying same thing for years on Kelly…..thanks…he been down since 1960 at Kezar no one onthis blog knows more than him
August 31st, 2011 at 9:38 am
333.raiderzmaverick Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 4:03 am
DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Marshall had the defense improving….Chuck B seems to be causing the D to regress and look lost out there like he looks lost!
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I was thinking the same thing. I was really pissed that we got rid of Marshall…thought he was making progress with that unit.
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Marshall was making progress.
It’s flat out stupid to not bring him back, unless they planned on getting Pagano or Horton, but to bring in Chuck B??
I think most of us knew that was a step back and in the wrong direction.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:38 am
just you wait until 3:30 pm…I’m gettin at this negga….be back later
August 31st, 2011 at 9:39 am
Thec07 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:09 am
inonewordraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:00 am
listening to a sports show called zack and jack in the morning on 570 am in LA the biggest sports talk radio station in LA and both guys predicted the AFC west standings to be 1. Chargers 2. Chiefs 3. Broncos 4. Raiders
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what did they base the above on?
they said sorry raider fans but our secondary is a mess, didn’t really go into too much detail
August 31st, 2011 at 9:42 am
502.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
OK so if TK is not one of our problems vs the run then who is?
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Well if we are talking about the BIG runs we give up, I’d tend to think it’s the LBs and S play.
There are PLENTY of runs that should be stopped for 5 yds or so that end up going for over 20.
Most of the BIG runs are off the edge.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:44 am
Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
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You not really comparing these two right? Ngata has never sucked in the NFL
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If you don’t want to acknowledge these stats, then don’t throw out your own stats about where our run defense ranks.
How else do you measure production if you don’t look at the numbers?
Are you going to tell me that the other 10 guys on the Ravens defense don’t make Ngata look good?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:45 am
tj is blind in 1 eye and cant see out the other.
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# Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:28 am
BHP I love ya man….but you homer so much you cant even see when certain guys suck…..Farglass…DHB…Russell and Kelly now
August 31st, 2011 at 9:47 am
Grandpa been saying same thing for years on Kelly…..thanks…he been down since 1960 at Kezar no one onthis blog knows more than him
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So does that mean that you are not going to let us know when YOU are sitting there at GPop’s house rewatching a game?
August 31st, 2011 at 9:49 am
I was playing Madden 12 and I’ve came to the conclusion that We need LInebackers!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 9:49 am
LOL!
Let’s put Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Terelle Suggs on this Raider D since 2004 and give Ngata the players the Raiders have had on defense and let’s see where the Raider D would have ranked.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:52 am
Sam Williams is our best Backup LB, and ROG is harping on TK?!
The Raiders have bigger holes to worry about than DT imo.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:54 am
That biasness of the East Coast about “wait til The Raiders play the Jets and Patriots”…blah blah blah…
Shoot, to me…Wait til all teams play the Jets and the Pats!
August 31st, 2011 at 9:56 am
Is Jerome Boyd really going to make this roster?
And at S?
Over who?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:00 am
Routt, CJ37, DVD, Moore, Sheppard, Chekwa
Huff, Branch, Brown, Mitchell, Boyd
11 DBs on the roster????
August 31st, 2011 at 10:00 am
Hwn you met up with B last week ?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:01 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
OK so if TK is not one of our problems vs the run then who is?
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It’s scheme: 4-3 vs. 3-4
Linebacker, Linebacker!
Why is Pit so good against the run? Look at the LBs they have!
Woodley. Farrior. Timmons. Harrison.
Why does Oakland suck vs. Run?
Wimbley (Pass Rush Specialist), McClain (Rookie in 2010), and Groves (Burnt-out Rasta)
August 31st, 2011 at 10:03 am
# J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:56 am
Is Jerome Boyd really going to make this roster?
And at S?
Over who?
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Nope, Boyd stays as LB depth.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:04 am
# J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:00 am
Routt, CJ37, DVD, Moore, Sheppard, Chekwa
Huff, Branch, Brown, Mitchell, Boyd
11 DBs on the roster????
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Again, move Boyd to Backup LB on the depth.
He can still play LB/S/ST
August 31st, 2011 at 10:05 am
GMom’s house!!!
LOL!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:05 am
No way they carry 11 DB’s. I think it’ll be 10.
It’s down to Moore vs Sheppard for the last spot. This last game could seal their fate.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:06 am
“The Raiders have bigger holes to worry about than DT imo.”
Maybe if we didn’t overpay the DT we could use that money to fill more holes?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:06 am
522.MistaBrown Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:00 am
Hwn you met up with B last week ?
Yup…he came with Clear Remy.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:07 am
Method To My Madness Says:
HAHA perfect proof stats are misleading
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Stats don’t lie ROG – People do!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:10 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
Maybe if we didn’t overpay the DT we could use that money to fill more holes?
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If anything, Wimbley is the overpaid one.
$5 mill under the Cap, We got the funds to bring in a LB.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:11 am
523.BigTed707 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:01 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
OK so if TK is not one of our problems vs the run then who is?
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It’s scheme: 4-3 vs. 3-4
Linebacker, Linebacker!
Why is Pit so good against the run? Look at the LBs they have!
Woodley. Farrior. Timmons. Harrison.
Why does Oakland suck vs. Run?
Wimbley (Pass Rush Specialist), McClain (Rookie in 2010), and Groves (Burnt-out Rasta)
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Good point. If we don’t address stopping the run, we aren’t going anywhere.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:12 am
G’mornin fellas.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:15 am
worst group of corners in the last 25 years and people what to be negative about kelly..please… Jerry’s comparison of DVD struggles to nnamdi is so off base. Nnamdi plyed strong safety at Cal and Al converted him to CB..DVD is only legs, he doesnt get his head around and cant tackle. He needs to be on the bench and learn from there. but him and nnamdi struggles are unrelated. Jerry should know better ..These corners are going to kill our season. We will be one of the worst 3rd down defense because teams will spread us out and pick on our young corners. its going to be very frustrating cause with dmac healthy i feel our offense has improved enough to be a playoff team but the front office neglected the corner position in the off season and it will could ruin our season
August 31st, 2011 at 10:16 am
ROG and J-Hill bring up an important issue:
A) We need Big John in there to stop the run.
B) When Big John is in there, whats to prevent the QB from audible-izing to a pass play, and will the line be able to get pressure?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:19 am
See you at a game this year Hwn
August 31st, 2011 at 10:19 am
512.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:42 am
502.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 am
OK so if TK is not one of our problems vs the run then who is?
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Well if we are talking about the BIG runs we give up, I’d tend to think it’s the LBs and S play.
There are PLENTY of runs that should be stopped for 5 yds or so that end up going for over 20.
Most of the BIG runs are off the edge.
513.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:44 am
Tommy Kelly 2010 stats 60 tackles 7.0 sacks
Haloti Ngata 2010 stats 63 tackles 5.5 sacks
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You not really comparing these two right? Ngata has never sucked in the NFL
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If you don’t want to acknowledge these stats, then don’t throw out your own stats about where our run defense ranks.
How else do you measure production if you don’t look at the numbers?
Are you going to tell me that the other 10 guys on the Ravens defense don’t make Ngata look good?
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More of the same excuses over and over again. comparing Ngata and Kelly is like putting a datsun up against a benz…..spare me this BS
August 31st, 2011 at 10:19 am
Isn’t D-Tackle one of the most important positions in the “Al Davis” defensive scheme?
Still think the Raiders got screwed in the Wimbley deal, in as much that Wimbley’s last year of his rookie contract violated NFL 30% rule. Think we should get comp picks for the NFL/Browns screw-up.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:20 am
We can get pressure with Henderson in there.
We still have three other guys who can rush.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:20 am
517.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:49 am
LOL!
Let’s put Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Terelle Suggs on this Raider D since 2004 and give Ngata the players the Raiders have had on defense and let’s see where the Raider D would have ranked.
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And Kelly still wouldnt be good enough to start for them……guy is not a good player as far as a UT goes
August 31st, 2011 at 10:22 am
539.Kirk Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:20 am
We can get pressure with Henderson in there.
We still have three other guys who can rush.
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Hendu is a run stuffer…need him on 1st and 2nd down….who cares if they audible dammit? The DEs job is to create hell off the edge…Seymour gets one on one finally
August 31st, 2011 at 10:23 am
515.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 9:47 am
Grandpa been saying same thing for years on Kelly…..thanks…he been down since 1960 at Kezar no one onthis blog knows more than him
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So does that mean that you are not going to let us know when YOU are sitting there at GPop’s house rewatching a game?
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I go back and hceck out all games patna….and I told you about one specifically I rewatched with a certain NFL player when we kicked their ass….he surely agreed with me that Big John needs to be out there more….NEXT
August 31st, 2011 at 10:23 am
More of the same excuses over and over again. comparing Ngata and Kelly is like putting a datsun up against a benz…..spare me this BS
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LOL!
Another well thought out NON answer.
Kelly PRODUCED the same numbers as Ngata. FACT!
What are you going to tell me, look at the Ravens defense compared to ours?
What, you mean the other 10 guys?
Exactly!!!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 am
Jhill….you did this same bullschit with Gerard Warren and Kelly saying they arent the problem
August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 am
Jhill he’s as a lucid as a Saint during games don’t question him. he’s sees all knows all and he’s the most knowledgable raider fan going. Yet he thinks nnamdi stinks and TK and Seymour are the worse DT tandem in the game…………OK B have it your way bruh you’re dope……everybody knows don’t question you’re logic.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 am
543.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:23 am
More of the same excuses over and over again. comparing Ngata and Kelly is like putting a datsun up against a benz…..spare me this BS
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LOL!
Another well thought out NON answer.
Kelly PRODUCED the same numbers as Ngata. FACT!
What are you going to tell me, look at the Ravens defense compared to ours?
What, you mean the other 10 guys?
Exactly!!!!!
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hmmmmm one plays the 3 tech as a UT in a 4-3……now let’s look at the guy in bmore….ok now that you have then you know your comparison is garbage
August 31st, 2011 at 10:25 am
Gerard Warren was never the problem man, he left here and started for the Pat’s so if he was so bad why did they take him? The great Belichik making the same mistake unheard of!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:25 am
Yeah Jhill the 5 tech and 3 tech are so similar so we can compare those two lol…..yawwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn…back to the lab buddy
August 31st, 2011 at 10:26 am
So according to Young B, to hell with what the film is showing and to hell with the stats.
We should just go with his opinion.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:26 am
tj, how did D Hagan slip past you?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:26 am
547.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:25 am
Gerard Warren was never the problem man, he left here and started for the Pat’s so if he was so bad why did they take him? The great Belichik making the same mistake unheard of!
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Oh yeah Warren on the 25th ranked defense who got physically punked when it was time to man up? Defense that cant stop a nose bleed? lol
August 31st, 2011 at 10:27 am
549.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:26 am
So according to Young B, to hell with what the film is showing and to hell with the stats.
We should just go with his opinion.
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Oh film….look at the film and you see Ngata blowing shhht up whether run or pass and he never gives up on a play…..can you say the same for Kelly? Hell no
August 31st, 2011 at 10:28 am
Kelly can piut up the same #’s a Ngata yet he doesn’t get the same credit……….makes sense I guess???
To some people I guess.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:28 am
544.Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 am
Jhill….you did this same bullschit with Gerard Warren and Kelly saying they arent the problem
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And you agreed at that time that Kelly wasn’t the problem, lol!
Kelly is a 3 tech is all you kept telling us and Warren was a bum NT.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:28 am
545.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 am
Jhill he’s as a lucid as a Saint during games don’t question him. he’s sees all knows all and he’s the most knowledgable raider fan going. Yet he thinks nnamdi stinks and TK and Seymour are the worse DT tandem in the game…………OK B have it your way bruh you’re dope……everybody knows don’t question you’re logic.
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I’m not a fan…..dont ever insult me like that…you guys can be FANS….but i’ll never be one
August 31st, 2011 at 10:28 am
“tj, how did D Hagan slip past you?”
He was making a KFC run for Herrera when the news came out.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:29 am
Yes you can because he does only then someone will let the runner out the backdoor when he blows it up and the runner gains 75 yards and you blame the DT for it.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:29 am
554.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:28 am
544.Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 am
Jhill….you did this same bullschit with Gerard Warren and Kelly saying they arent the problem
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And you agreed at that time that Kelly wasn’t the problem, lol!
Kelly is a 3 tech is all you kept telling us and Warren was a bum NT.
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After 09 I was done with him…and then when they changed him from NT to UT in middle of preseason was nail in coffin….he just sucks
August 31st, 2011 at 10:30 am
557.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:29 am
Yes you can because he does only then someone will let the runner out the backdoor when he blows it up and the runner gains 75 yards and you blame the DT for it.
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What is DT’s number one responsibility?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:30 am
John Clayton
Arian Foster tweeted his hamstring MRI and it sure doesn’t look like he’s been in the lineup when the season starts. He has a tear.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:30 am
536.MistaBrown Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:19 am
See you at a game this year Hwn
Sounds Good! I just won’t be at the Home Opener…I gotta work that day!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:31 am
B,
It’s as simple as you letting me know when you are at GMom’s and GPop’s house so WE can watch a game together and you can point out to me where you think TK is an issue.
This is obviously getting nowhere.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:33 am
Here’s comes the preschoolers and the idiotic comments based on……………something I guess..
August 31st, 2011 at 10:34 am
“This is obviously getting nowhere.”
Obviously!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:34 am
562.J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:31 am
B,
It’s as simple as you letting me know when you are at GMom’s and GPop’s house so WE can watch a game together and you can point out to me where you think TK is an issue.
This is obviously getting nowhere.
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We can do that then
August 31st, 2011 at 10:35 am
Jhill it will never get anywhere because it doesn’t make sense any knowledgable fan person coach bartender knows when they see that kid play he plays the game well.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:35 am
BHP,
TKelly can improve vastly as he did last year putting up probowl numbers and being voted D MVP by his teammates, but all many people here will ever see is TKelly as a replica of Terdell Sands because that is all they’ll ever want to see.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:36 am
Through numerous DTs the last 8 years, the Raiders have finished in the bottom 7 in run defense 7 out of those 8 years.
It’s obviously a system failure, and not a personnel one.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:36 am
LMAO
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Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:28 am
“tj, how did D Hagan slip past you?”
He was making a KFC run for Herrera when the news came out
August 31st, 2011 at 10:38 am
tj the fraud,
I’m just wondering all the time you spend in Alameda, riding around in the golf cart with AL, scouting players like Nnamdi, shootin the breeze with A Sheilds Dad, ironing N Miller the DB Killer’s jock…..somehow this entire summer not 1 peep out of you about D Hagan.
Explain…
August 31st, 2011 at 10:38 am
M well said sir
I enjoyed this little chat but gotta run….
have fun folks…
August 31st, 2011 at 10:39 am
tj the fraud,
You’ve been pumping up J Moss since camp opened and pre-season but I’ve yet to see him do ANYTHING. You basically said nobody can block this kid because of his long arms and deep arsenal of moves.
Explain…
August 31st, 2011 at 10:40 am
566.priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:35 am
Jhill it will never get anywhere because it doesn’t make sense any knowledgable fan person coach bartender knows when they see that kid play he plays the game well.
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HAHAHAHA
August 31st, 2011 at 10:40 am
ok tj same questions next time you dont have to “run” to nowhere.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:41 am
MB,
LMAO, I’d forgotten all about “Nick Miller the DB killer” Classic.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:41 am
568.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:36 am
Through numerous DTs the last 8 years, the Raiders have finished in the bottom 7 in run defense 7 out of those 8 years.
It’s obviously a system failure, and not a personnel one.
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Name one good one that left and did something for real….thanks
August 31st, 2011 at 10:42 am
SnBPA, thats what I’m for so you dont forget.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:42 am
“I enjoyed this little chat but gotta run….”
Herrera is in the john pinching out a loaf and ran out of toilet paper….he calls out for tj “Get off the blog and bring me some butt wipe now!!!”
August 31st, 2011 at 10:43 am
B,
Is Houston going to make a play this week or is he saving himself for Den ?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:45 am
SeymourGlenn, you are on a roll today!
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:42 am
“I enjoyed this little chat but gotta run….”
Herrera is in the john pinching out a loaf and ran out of toilet paper….he calls out for tj “Get off the blog and bring me some butt wipe now!!!”
August 31st, 2011 at 10:48 am
Raiders need to sign LOFA as a WOLB and backup MLB and the other big issue is of course Chuck B being the DC!
Ugh!
August 31st, 2011 at 10:50 am
325.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
preseason don’t mean a damn thing i’ll be glad when it’s over so we can really see what the team looks like.
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I can’t believe this guy. A one note Johnny.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:50 am
Has Groves been cut yet?
August 31st, 2011 at 10:52 am
guest123 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:30 am
John Clayton
Arian Foster tweeted his hamstring MRI and it sure doesn’t look like he’s been in the lineup when the season starts. He has a tear.
scary thoughts:
Arian Foster vs our Run D
Andre Johnson vs Routt or CJ
August 31st, 2011 at 10:56 am
scary thoughts:
Arian Foster vs our Run D
Andre Johnson vs Routt or CJ
+++++++++
We saw Foster vs. our run D last year. Not pretty.
Remember the game at Houston two years ago? Early on, Johnson burns Routt for a 62 yard completion. After that, Cable/Marshall says “eff it” and moves Asomugha over to shadow him. Johnson the rest of the game had 1 catch for 4 yards.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:59 am
233.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
If we are 6-10 but a bully I’ll take that. Just don’t want to be playing that soft Chucky B prevent scht and losing that way. I want the other guys to know the played us the next day.
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Does anybody ever succeed with that joke of a defense? It never works, even at the end of games. I hope that’s not what we see this year.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:59 am
Name one good one that left and did something for real….thanks
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What do you mean? They were all signed by the Patriots…then cut.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:00 am
mista no
August 31st, 2011 at 11:02 am
Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:41 am
568.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 10:36 am
Through numerous DTs the last 8 years, the Raiders have finished in the bottom 7 in run defense 7 out of those 8 years.
It’s obviously a system failure, and not a personnel one.
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Name one good one that left and did something for real….thanks
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Terdell Sands has had a productive career as a waste treatment facility in southwest Arkansas.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:03 am
DVD can run very fast. I hope he runs to the bank real quick and cashes that check. If one of our corners goes down, we’re totally screwed!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:04 am
Method, we had a HOFer last year together with Kelly, and strong run DEs in Shaughnessy and Houston.
Yet failure.
It’s a system failure, not strictly a personnel one.
Shoot, even in our Gruden years we struggled vs the run (Shaun Alexander for 230+, Bucs in SB) but our offense kept opponents from getting the chance to hammer at us too much.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:06 am
how in the name of all the pollution in China is it possible that Timm Rosenbach, Akili Smith, and David Klingler all ended their NFL careers with exactly the same number of SB rings as Dan Fouts, Warren Moon and Dan Marino?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:06 am
C’Mon DVD has a lot of growing to do, he is 176lbs (if that). His combine bench was 225*3=weak. Love that they are putting out there against top WRs to get torched, hopefully it makes him hungry to get better.
Hoefully Chris Johnson stays healthy and consistent. Also, I hope Lito gets some good supplements and a wizzinator.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:07 am
All you guys can go back and forth and argue thats cool thats what FAM’s do…Just dont forget that…
When I see you guys at the games this year no matter if I disagree and we argue WE ARE STILL FAM….
August 31st, 2011 at 11:13 am
594.Thec07 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:07 am
All you guys can go back and forth and argue thats cool thats what FAM’s do…Just dont forget that…
When I see you guys at the games this year no matter if I disagree and we argue WE ARE STILL FAM….
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There is nothing that would bring the FAM back together like winning. Cures everything.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:15 am
591.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:04 am
Method, we had a HOFer last year together with Kelly, and strong run DEs in Shaughnessy and Houston.
Yet failure.
It’s a system failure, not strictly a personnel one.
Shoot, even in our Gruden years we struggled vs the run (Shaun Alexander for 230+, Bucs in SB) but our offense kept opponents from getting the chance to hammer at us too much.
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Name the NT on that line….when you do then you will see the problem Alexander
August 31st, 2011 at 11:16 am
i want every pass play targeting DHB vs seattle. U know he’s playing heavy minutes this season, let’s get him as close to ready as possible
August 31st, 2011 at 11:17 am
“I DONT EATSA DEM CHILI DAWGS NO MO”
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Tommy “Chili Dawg” Kelly
August 31st, 2011 at 11:18 am
Remember when we used the Gruden pick on Tyler Brayton?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:20 am
No to Houston finally making a play?
Roger that!
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# Method To My Madness Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:00 am
mista no
August 31st, 2011 at 11:20 am
Hey Tyler Brayton did at least one good thing here as a Raider! He kneed Jeremy Stevens in the you know what…LOL…that still cracks me up!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:22 am
Method, we had guys like Parella, Sam Adams, Darrell Russell, Ted Washington back then, solid guys.
They improved our run D, but it was still leaky when attacked.
strict 4-3 man-man = weakness vs run.
That’s just the truth when your DBs have their backs to the play, and one man missing = no one else to help.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:23 am
Hwn you can say nuts, jewels, nuggets, stones, balls, testes, or juevos rancheros
August 31st, 2011 at 11:23 am
597.inonewordraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:16 am
i want every pass play targeting DHB vs seattle. U know he’s playing heavy minutes this season, let’s get him as close to ready as possible
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6th WR
August 31st, 2011 at 11:26 am
Anybody know Hagan’s 40 time?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:26 am
Gruden picks were Brayton, PBuch (after trading up a few times), Teyo Johnston, and Langston Walker IIRC.
Yuck.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:27 am
MB…thanks! I didn’t want to take a chance…
August 31st, 2011 at 11:27 am
Deosn’t matter, dont care, dont tell me.
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# ohioraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:26 am
Anybody know Hagan’s 40 time?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:27 am
Hagan ran a 4.45 yard dash at the Combine.
Average (solid) NFL WR speed.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:28 am
Man I hope the defensive line has been a sand bagn SOB through the preseason.
If not our non-instinctive DBs are toast!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:29 am
the worries about our defense are understandable, but they are also greatly exaggerated.
1.) our secondary was torched mainly due to the inexperience and youth at corner. This group will be much better opening day. Routt, cj ,shep, are a veteran group that will be at least decent. I actually think cj, and routt will be very good, and if any of our young secondary players contribute it will be a bonus. Other wise they have the luxury of being eased into the season behind proven starters.
2.) There is a new scheme in place. It will take time to adjust and there is no quick fix. Reps on the field will make the difference over time.
3.) The safety play will improve once missile mike is back. he proved to be very good in coverage last year, and is good enough near the line in the box. he represents a significant upgrade to this group. We have seen boyd routinely victimized, yet he wont be on the field when mm34 returns. mm 34 may end this year starting in place of the struggling branch.
4.) Our starting d hasnt been on the field yet together. Some of our key reserves being out also saw the back up unit struggle considerably.
Im not saying that there arent concerns, I just dont think it is nearly as grave as others are predicting. By the end of the year we will finish at least some where in the top 15 total defense.
This will be a middle of the road defense with a prolific offense.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
Hagan is our best WR right now.
No dobt in my mind he is the most polished out of the pack. NY is going to be sick they let the guy go.
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609.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:27 am
Hagan ran a 4.45 yard dash at the Combine.
Average (solid) NFL WR speed.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
According to a NY website, Hagan was a top gunner on special teams as well.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Don
That list is not “kept” by anyone. Priesttj the troll started it and he changes it all the time to suit his whim. I am sorta proud that I made the list : )
You may not have known that last night.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
ohioraider Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:26 am
Anybody know Hagan’s 40 time?
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…not quite as fast as Taiwan’s shadow!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
Seahawks TE John Carlson will miss the season with a torn labrum …
all eyes on Zach Miller!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:32 am
Mistic,
why wouldn’t this D play exactly the way they did last year? There has been no noticeable improvement personnel-wise and our schedule is tougher.
Realistically, no reason to think they’ll do better.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:33 am
all eyes on Zach Miller!
____________________________
He’ll miss six games for “conduct unbecoming”, after he slaps his wife for talking him into moving to Seattle!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hagan was stuck behind Manningham, Nicks, and Steve Smith the last two years. No shame in that.
Put up normal rookie #s his first two years in Miami.
6′2 200+ lbs, 4.45 speed, great hands = best receiver in Oakland.
He’s basically what we wanted Louis Murphy and Chaz to become.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:34 am
Wassup peoples!
Is it just me or does Hue Jack look like a fat azz on Madden12?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
Why all the kelly bashing?
He is pants down our best defender.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
Tbone –
Tom Cable hard at work
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/31/seahawks-may-bench-first-round-pick-carpenter/
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
Carlson was garbage anyway.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
Mistic –
1) I don’t think CJ can stay healthy through the whole season.
2) True but how much time do we have? And to be honest scheme or not I don’t have much faith in the DBs beyond Routt, CJ, and Branch (ahhhhhhhh.)
3) I am worried about Mike man and his injury. I hope he gets back.
4) True, we need to see the whole starting D on the field full time. Plus, Hue did keep it pretty plain.
611.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:29 am
the worries about our defense are understandable, but they are also greatly exaggerated.
1.) our secondary was torched mainly due to the inexperience and youth at corner. This group will be much better opening day. Routt, cj ,shep, are a veteran group that will be at least decent. I actually think cj, and routt will be very good, and if any of our young secondary players contribute it will be a bonus. Other wise they have the luxury of being eased into the season behind proven starters.
2.) There is a new scheme in place. It will take time to adjust and there is no quick fix. Reps on the field will make the difference over time.
3.) The safety play will improve once missile mike is back. he proved to be very good in coverage last year, and is good enough near the line in the box. he represents a significant upgrade to this group. We have seen boyd routinely victimized, yet he wont be on the field when mm34 returns. mm 34 may end this year starting in place of the struggling branch.
4.) Our starting d hasnt been on the field yet together. Some of our key reserves being out also saw the back up unit struggle considerably.
Im not saying that there arent concerns, I just dont think it is nearly as grave as others are predicting. By the end of the year we will finish at least some where in the top 15 total defense.
This will be a middle of the road defense with a prolific offense.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:37 am
scheme or not I don’t have much faith in the DBs beyond Routt, CJ, and Branch
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CJL = Huff hater?
RUE THE DAY, my friend…
August 31st, 2011 at 11:37 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 4:55 am
Lets keep it real simple this morning and break it down into the basics
We got our butts torn asunder the last nine years because we could not throw the ball, we could not run the ball, we could not catch the ball we could not block, we could not defend the pass. we could not defend the run at all, and we could not tackle. And we had a terrible club atmosphere.
It really is that simple
Last year for the first time {and with HUE it will be the last} in 9 years we passed some what decent, we ran excellent, we blocked very well, we defended the pass like pro bowlers, we made improvments in tackling and we made great strides in having a great club atmosphere. (I cant come up with a better word to describe it)
Today we have regressed on the offense and it looks like teams will tear us up.
The defense is a work in regress. We have taken a step backwords, according to preseaon games, however I do n put much stock in that. We are 6 players away from being great on defense
The big deal is to stay healthy and hope that Hue can be a so so head coach
WRST YEAR EVER !!!!!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:37 am
DMAC, maybe they just plopped a black face on Cable’s old body!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:38 am
I don’t think CJ can stay healthy through the whole season
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CJ37 missed 9 games in 4 years
Chaz Schilens missed 19 games in the last 2 years!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:38 am
What’s Al Davis’ morning constitutional time?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:39 am
Alex,
lol
Thats exactly what it looks like.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:40 am
SEAHAWKS GONNA KNOCK THE RAIDERS INTO TOMORROW !!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:40 am
maybe they just plopped a black face on Cable’s old body!
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why not?
thats basically what happened!
Hue Jackson = BTC (Black Tom Cable)
August 31st, 2011 at 11:40 am
So does anyone know what type of surgery CJ has recovered from?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am
What up Raider Nation….how is everyone doing today??
August 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am
Is it bad to hope that Zach Miller stinks it up in Seattle. .??. I hope he regrets leaving the raiders.. I truly do.. and I hope Boss n Ausberry get 50 receptions each…. I can’t stand Tom cable.. I hate Seattle and I can’t stand Pete caroll. . F them. ..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am
# alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:32 am
Mistic,
why wouldn’t this D play exactly the way they did last year? There has been no noticeable improvement personnel-wise and our schedule is tougher.
Realistically, no reason to think they’ll do better.
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I dont expect much improvement other than to see the team learn a much more diverse scheme. Statistically I think we will look similar to last year, with the run defense a little better and the pass defense a little worse.
teams will not be able to stick to the run, they will be forced to throw in order to keep pace with our new state of the art offense, complete with a blistering air attack. Romac has taken an extreme jump, and shaugnassy will play from the start, all of these factors will make the run d better.
As long as the secondary is healthy they will be ok. We have an edge at starting corner with cj and routt. Behind them is really to green to be counted on, and our safety play is a mess.
However i think the pass rush will be a factor in the regular season and we will have a chance to play with some leads this year.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am
Dprick Says:
I fondle myself daily to goat porn because no one in their right mind would want to touch my shriveled up deformed worm. My mom said I am a special guy with special needs so I am not afraid of Raider fans.
I feel a strong connection to their owner as I too carry a droll rag and require a daily intake of KFC.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am
RaiderRock,
So where the hell is scary Lee Higgins at?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am
# dvrick Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:40 am
SEAHAWKS GONNA KNOCK THE WOMEN INTO TOMORROW !!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:44 am
602.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:22 am
Method, we had guys like Parella, Sam Adams, Darrell Russell, Ted Washington back then, solid guys.
They improved our run D, but it was still leaky when attacked.
strict 4-3 man-man = weakness vs run.
That’s just the truth when your DBs have their backs to the play, and one man missing = no one else to help.
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Personnel
August 31st, 2011 at 11:44 am
I hope Boss n Ausberry get 50 receptions each
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Ghost,
Boss = 60 catches
Ausberry = 20 catches (max)
August 31st, 2011 at 11:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
RAIDERS RB DMAC will miss the season with a torn labrum !!!!!Well there goes the season!!!! …
August 31st, 2011 at 11:45 am
Compensatory picks are based on salary and playing time, so as long as Miller plays a lot, I’m cool with him blowing chunks.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:45 am
Hue Jackson = BTC (Black Tom Cable)
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August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
Dmac. .
Johnny Lee Higgins with the dream team.. atleast for now until he gets cut next week
August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
# Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Mista is super Fool….yall hatin
August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
where the hell is scary Lee Higgins at?
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JLH = Philly Eagles
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/c6/fullj.5a1869a5d02b1075b1c7d9276e47caa2/5a1869a5d02b1075b1c7d9276e47caa2-getty-121370907.jpg
August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
So Method, who would you improve on our D-Line if it’s a personnel thing?
Or why do teams like the Steelers, Packers, and Ravens stuff the run with their 3-4 schemes while plugging in new LB’s every few years?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:47 am
Hu jack is the man, and our offense is the beneficiary.
The o-line, wr core, the qbs, the running backs, all have undergone significant upgrades.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am
# guest123 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:45 am
Hue Jackass = BTC (Black AL DAVIS):lol:
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August 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am
# ghostraiders Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
Dmac. .
Johnny Lee Higgins with the dream team.. atleast for now until he gets traded to New England for a 1st rounder
August 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am
Tom Cable, the greatest OLine coach in history (at least those here believe so) brought his bunch of rag tag scrub olineman to Seattle and have proceeded to get Tavaris Jackson killed repeatedly (to the tune of 13+ sacks in 3 preseason games)… Great job Tom
August 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am
# r8eray Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am
What up CHARGER Nation….how is everyone doing today??
August 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am
dvrick Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
Chargers have made playoffs 5 of last 6 years!
Norv Turner is the MAN!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:49 am
Looks to me that Hu jack and davis make a pretty good team. They have had an outstanding draft, and a good job adding free agents. IM sure davis loves what he sees from JC and the offense.
Uh Oh impostor fans, I think you will be in trouble over the next few years, and so will the rest of the nfl!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:49 am
648.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:46 am
So Method, who would you improve on our D-Line if it’s a personnel thing?
Or why do teams like the Steelers, Packers, and Ravens stuff the run with their 3-4 schemes while plugging in new LB’s every few years?
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Green Bay JUST switched to a 3-4 last year, or maybe the year before.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:50 am
Tavaris Jackson is not a pocket QB (similar to Pryor) whose athleticism overrides his smarts, and will constantly get sacked and hit more often than most.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:51 am
# ghostraiders Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am
Is it bad to hope that Zach Miller Tears it up in Seattle. .??. I regrets him leaving the raiders.. I truly do.. and I hope Boss n Ausberry tear their ACLs…. I Love Tom cable.. I don’t mind Seattle and I Love stand Pete caroll.. ..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:51 am
# ghostraiders Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am
Is it bad to hope that Zach Miller Tears it up in Seattle. .??. I regrets him leaving the raiders.. I truly do.. and I hope Boss n Ausberry tear their ACLs…. I Love Tom cable.. I don’t mind Seattle and I Love Pete caroll.. ..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:40 am
maybe they just plopped a black face on Cable’s old body!
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why not?
thats basically what happened!
Hue Jackson = BTC (Black Tom Cable)
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A skinnier version…with a hire IQ and expanded vocabulary!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:52 am
NORV (BITTER BEER FACE)TURNER CAN BE THE SAN DIEGO 4EVER. THEY WILL ALWAYS BE 1 AND DONE IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH HIM THERE..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:53 am
GB just switched to a 3-4 and shot up in D rank. Coincidence? No.
SEVEN of eight top-ranked run D’s used the 3-4.
The other team (Bears) use a cover-2 zone.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:54 am
A cover 2 zone behind a 4-3
August 31st, 2011 at 11:54 am
So who’s gonna want to chat w/ this dude later?
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/127730/TOMMY-KELLY-PANTS-VIDEO.jpg
August 31st, 2011 at 11:54 am
Raider rockstar. ..
I know that and u know that but last week there were a couple of guys here talking about ausberry outplaying Boss. .. needless to say I laughed at the notion.. but They were serious… Boss will be our primary tight end…I guess I want to be a lil agreeable today only..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:55 am
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
It’s TRUE!! DMAC LOST FOR THE SEASON __ TEARS ACL!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:55 am
657.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:50 am
Tavaris Jackson is not a pocket QB (similar to Pryor) whose athleticism overrides his smarts, and will constantly get sacked and hit more often than most.
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yeah, his athleticism is the reason he is getting sacked… not his blocking.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:55 am
667
August 31st, 2011 at 11:55 am
Has anyone been “GEEKED” around here lately???
August 31st, 2011 at 11:56 am
Norv Turner playoff one and done???? Try again.
2009 AFC Divisional Pittsburgh 35, San Diego 24
2009 AFC Wild Card San Diego 23, Indianapolis 17
2008 AFC Championship New England 21, San Diego 12
2008 AFC Divisional San Diego 28, Indianapolis 24
2008 AFC Wild Card San Diego 17, Tennessee 6
Losing to Super Bowl champs Steelers and the Patriots is nothing to be ashamed of.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:56 am
# Plunketthead Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
CONFIRMED!!!DMAC GONE!!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:56 am
Minnesota ranked #1 in run defense for 4 years straight with a 4-3 front
August 31st, 2011 at 11:57 am
Bcz,
Vikings had stellar line while Tavaris was there. Still was sacked too often, held ball too long, made one read and tried to run to no avail.
You know this.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:57 am
alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:53 am
GB just switched to a 3-4 and shot up in D rank. Coincidence? No.
SEVEN of eight top-ranked run D’s used the 3-4.
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Been talking up the 3-4 for over a year now, but not many people appear interested.
All I hear is “Don’t have the personnel”
well duh, but that can be rectified over draft/free agency!
August 31st, 2011 at 11:58 am
LA To TheBay Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
Why all the kelly bashing?
He is pants down our best defender.
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LOLOLOLLLOLOL
August 31st, 2011 at 11:58 am
672.bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:56 am
Minnesota ranked #1 in run defense for 4 years straight with a 4-3 front
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Williams Wall. Pat Williams is gone now. Curious to see how they fare.
Also, incidentally, Pat Williams is a free agent….
August 31st, 2011 at 11:58 am
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:47 am
Hu jackass is not the man, and our offense is the beneficiary.
The o-line, wr core, the qbs, the running backs, all have undergone significant downgrades.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
I see raiderrockstar and dvprick.. the same ahole.
..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
Vikings ranked 9th last year. Fail.
Repeat: 7 of 8 top run D’s played 3-4 or zone.
7 of 8 OVERALL D’s played 3-4 or zone.
Our system is stupid and expensive.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
THANK ALEX7..SHOULD HAVE CHECK’D MY FACTS A LITTLE CLOSER..
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
You want a better run defense? Score more touchdowns on offense. Take the run game off the table by scoring often. Also teams throwing because they have to in order to come from behind makes them predictable. We will be using plenty of fire zone so dbs will the facing the line of scrimmage. We will see more ints, and better run defense due to the new scheme.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
RAIDERS RB DMAC will miss the season with a torn labrum !!!!!Well there goes the season!!!! …This Sucks
August 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
You want a better run defense? Score more touchdowns on offense. Take the run game off the table by scoring often
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This could be our #1 hope this season
August 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
You mean losing to Bowl Champ…Steelers…2008, Pats lost to NY Giants!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Packers beat writer Bob McGinn is reporting Pryor got a 7 on the Wonderlic. Of course, his report wouldn’t be complete without a snarky “Al Davis’ QB” insult.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
625.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:37 am
scheme or not I don’t have much faith in the DBs beyond Routt, CJ, and Branch
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CJL = Huff hater?
RUE THE DAY, my friend…
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I am not a HUff hater I know that is your boy RR but you said it yourself he is good at defending the TE and making tackles on RBs. I question his cover skills most of the time. Plus, he did a lot of half @$$ blitzs to the QB aginst the Saints. However, I was glad he came back to help the team.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Why anyone thinks you cant win in pro football using a press cover 4-3 is mind boggling. How many teams in the history of football have used this philosophy as its base and won the whole thing? Too many to count.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Normally the fourth and final preseason game is one I can’t wait to be over with. Couldn’t care less about and just hope nobody gets hurt in the meaningless preseason finale.
This year actually has some interesting subplots and has me looking forward to watching live on NFLN friday night.
First you got the Cable/Gallery/Miller all going to Seattle angle. Gonna suck to see Zack in that SeaHag uniform. We’ll probably all be sick of sideline shots of Tom Cable by the end of the night though.
Then there is the prospect of getting the first glimpse of Pryor in Silver & Black. Hue has indicated he might see some action.
Finally, I can’t wait to see Taiwan Jones in action again. Damn, that dude was exciting vs NO. just a series or two…and then put him in cellophane as Hue puts it, along with DMoore, Hagan and DMac and get ready to unleash them all in Denver on MNF in “The Great Bronco Beatdown”.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
685.RaiderDuck Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Packers beat writer Bob McGinn is reporting Pryor got a 7 on the Wonderlic. Of course, his report wouldn’t be complete without a snarky “Al Davis’ QB” insult.
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*eyeroll* The Wonderlic is the most overrated thing in football.
And why is a Packers beat writer reporting this anyway?
August 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
682.dvrick Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
RAIDERS RB DMAC will miss the season with a torn labrum !!!!!Well there goes the season!!!! …This Sucks
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BS!!!! What?????
August 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
I see raiderrockstar and dvprick.. the same aholes as me.
..
August 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“You want a better run defense? Score more touchdowns on offense.”
Ok so what happens if you are ahead by 6 with 3 minutes left and you have to play defense to win the game?
August 31st, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Maybe because we passed on Rodgers due to his lack of “arm strength”. Or because Wisconsin and Ohio are rivals.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“You want a better run defense? Score more touchdowns on offense.”
Ok so what happens if you are ahead by 6 with 3 minutes left and you have to play defense to win the game?
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Then you insert that shot to Hendu’s foot and throw his azz back in there w/ the goons to stuff the run.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Interested to see how the backups perform against Seattle.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
“Ok so what happens if you are ahead by 6 with 3 minutes left and you have to play defense to win the game?”
YOU PLAY THE CHUCK B. “STICKS” DEFENSE!!
FTW!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
DMAC INJURY CONFIRMED!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
679.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:59 am
Vikings ranked 9th last year. Fail.
Repeat: 7 of 8 top run D’s played 3-4 or zone.
7 of 8 OVERALL D’s played 3-4 or zone.
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Prior to last year the Viks were the top rated run D 4 years running. Who failed? I NEVER said they were last year. Take your sh!teatin troll comments somewhere else
August 31st, 2011 at 12:07 pm
685.RaiderDuck Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Packers beat writer Bob McGinn is reporting Pryor got a 0 on the Wonderlic. Of course, his report wouldn’t be complete without a snarky “Al Davis’ QB” insult.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Work picked TODAY to start blocking CoverItLive as “streaming media” ?!?!?!??!
Grumble grumble grumble…
August 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
CJ, ANYTHING posted by DVprick is BS.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
So who’s going to be returning punts for us?
D. Moore?
August 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“You want a better run defense? Score more touchdowns on offense.”
Ok so what happens if you are ahead by 6 with 3 minutes left and you have to play defense to win the game?
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Im not sure what this question is getting at?
August 31st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at12:10 pm
CONFIRMED!!!!! DMAC LOST FOR THE SEASON!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Im not sure what this question is getting at?
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Really?!?!? It means in order to be a good team, you have to be good at Offense, Defense & Special Teams, ok?
August 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
# bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
CJ,YOU OUTTA KNOW ANYTHING posted by ME is BS.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
new post
August 31st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
BigTed707 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:17 am
“I DONT EATSA DEM CHILI DAWGS NO MO”I JUS STUFF EM UP HUE JACKASSES BL—K BUTT!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:15 pm
# DMAC Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
So AL’s going to be returning punts for us?{ punting HUE’S ass off the field}
August 31st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
612.CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:30 am
Hagan is our best WR right now.
No dobt in my mind he is the most polished out of the pack. NY is going to be sick they let the guy go.
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609.alex7 Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:27 am
Hagan ran a 4.45 yard dash at the Combine.
Average (solid) NFL WR speed.
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Hagan has learned how to play WR in the NFL and he has learned from playing with solid vet WR’s like Chambers, Booker and Welker in Miami and he has learned from playing and competing against talented WR’s like Nicks, Smith and Manningham.
The guy knows how to compete and it seems like he wants it now!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
# DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:52 am
NORV (BITTER BEER FACE)TURNER CAN BE THE SAN DIEGO 4EVER. THEY WILL ALWAYS BE 1 AND DONE IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH HIM THERE..While the Raiders never get there!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:21 pm
It does matter what front you run it matters who’s running that front………..talent son talent!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:27 pm
632.RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:40 am
maybe they just plopped a black face on Cable’s old body!
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why not?
thats basically what happened!
Hue Jackson = BTC (Black Tom Cable)
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He beats women
August 31st, 2011 at 1:24 pm
711.dvrick Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
# DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 11:52 am
NORV (BITTER BEER FACE)TURNER CAN BE THE SAN DIEGO 4EVER. THEY WILL ALWAYS BE 1 AND DONE IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH HIM THERE..While the Raiders never get there!!
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Yep and the Raiders will always have more SUPER BOWL TROPHIES than the Dis-Chargers too!
Ya Troll! HAHAHAAAAA
August 31st, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Actually the Raiders have won it all with 3-4. 76, 80, 83 all 3-4 with a lot of 4-3 mix in 83 cause of the great DL we had: Howie,Lyle, Townsend e.t.c. But it wasn’t a 3-4 zone blitzing team. It was a 3-4 press coverage team most of the times
August 31st, 2011 at 7:28 pm
685.RaiderDuck Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Packers beat writer Bob McGinn is reporting Pryor got a 0 on the Wonderlic. Of course, his report wouldn’t be complete without a snarky “Al Davis’ QB” insult.
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Why would Bob McGinn be reporting on his Wonderlic score? It’s thinly veiled racism saying black qb’s are dumb, is all this is.
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