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Raiders roster moves are in

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, August 30th, 2011 at 11:19 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders pared their roster to 80 on Tuesday morning by making the following transactions: FB Bryson Kelly, wide receivers Steve Goulet and Damola Adeniji, offensive linemen Ben Lamaak and Lou Eliades, safety Josh Bullocks and defensive tackle Derrick Hill were waived; offensive lineman Alan Pelc and linebacker Travis Goethel were placed on injured reserve.

Off to practice.

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  • bcz24

    22.guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:16 am
    I was hoping B. Campbell would compete in his second year. How many years for an O-lineman to work into the rotation before they are considered a bust?
    **********************
    I dont see how you CAN call a 4th rounder a ‘bust’

  • raideredoutL.A.

    No surprises

  • RaiderRockstar

    Shawn Bayes over Damola Adeniji?

    interesting …

    Zac Etheridge & Matt Giordano survived longer than Josh Bullocks. That dude might as well head for the UFL

    He’s done in this league

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Raiders got to work the wire for a LB, too late to get one thats not in shape.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Chaz Schilens is a rumor. His name never existed. His name shall never be spoken from here to eternity. So let it be written, so shall it be done.

    ***

    LOL @ G123

    Chaz is like the wind.

    You can’t see him, but you know he’s there!

  • guest123

    I dont see how you CAN call a 4th rounder a ‘bust’

    *************

    4th round and better is still a high pick in my book. What’s your cutoff? 3rd round? We may be splitting hairs here. The point is, he was considered this all world combine freak that many had us mock drafting in the first round. Even if he busts out, he cost a shot at a better prospect last year. Not that anyone is 100%, so I don’t want to be too harsh.

    That said, if he’s a bust we need to recognize it ASAP, and especially at cut time allow the players who are going to carry thier weight a shot at sticking on the roster. i.e. no more scholarships.

  • bcz24

    Chaz is our Unicorn… mythical being, supposedly has unrivaled receiver ability, but has never actually been seen.

  • RaiderRockstar

    no more scholarships.

    ***

    Does that apply to front office & coaching staff?

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:24 am
    Guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:16 am
    I was hoping B. Campbell would compete in his second year. How many years for an O-lineman to work into the rotation before they are considered a bust?

    ::::::::::

    Depends. If he is a first rnd pick, and he ain’t starting by year two… Thats pretty bad sign. If you are talking about a 4th rounder, they don’t have to ever be a full time starter to earn their draft status. Being a key backup and a good ST player is validation enough.

    Now, if/when a 4th rnder becomes a starter, and excels he should be considered a steal, and great pick.
    Campbell has proven to be neither yet.

  • guest123

    Does that apply to front office & coaching staff?

    **********

    good question, I’ll hold my answer for fear of getting banned.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Chaz is our Unicorn… mythical being, supposedly has unrivaled receiver ability, but has never actually been seen.

    ***

    in other words:

    Chaz is that “Bully” Hue Jackson was talking about …

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Scholarships is DHB and Sam Willi. Won’t cease.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    $5.3M left Al, go get Lofa for $2M
    _________________________________________________________

    I rather take a look at Na’il Diggs, Tatupo is done, too old, too slow..

  • The Oracle

    Josh Bullocks laughed after giving up a pathetic TD against Saints, good riddance.

  • guest123

    Depends. If he is a first rnd pick, and he ain’t starting by year two… Thats pretty bad sign. If you are talking about a 4th rounder, they don’t have to ever be a full time starter to earn their draft status. Being a key backup and a good ST player is validation enough.

    Now, if/when a 4th rnder becomes a starter, and excels he should be considered a steal, and great pick.
    Campbell has proven to be neither yet.

    ********

    The fact he hasn’t contributed, even as a special teamer is a red flag, imo. I don’t see the practices and am not inspired by the sometimes glowing reports. If he lacks the proper knee-bend or other deficiency that makes him an easy mark for a good DT to leverage him out of the way, he’s a liability and needs to be cut. We need 53 guys who all can play any given Sunday in any situation.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

    Guest123, B. Campell is “competing”. He may end up starting by the end of his second year. Can’t really judge his status unless you are at practice every day, or for us common folk, we should know by this years end.

  • guest123

    Chaz is that “Bully” Hue Jackson was talking about …

    *********

    Ouch!

    it’s painful but true.

  • rob_raider

    Bcz24 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:25 am
    Chaz is our Unicorn… mythical being, supposedly has unrivaled receiver ability, but has never actually been seen.
    *************************************

    hahaha—-very funny—-made me laugh out loud.

    chaz=the unicorn

    hilarious!

  • raideredoutL.A.

    I was really impressed with the offensive line Sunday, NO has some beasts up the middle with Ellis and Rogers, and they held up well.

  • R8ER MIKE

    trade with Washington for McIntosch or Alexander. Shanny aint that bright, give them lil Nickie and Glass for one of them.

  • http://cheapseateats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Lester-Hayes.jpg RaiderDogg

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:28 am
    La Milicia Negra Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    $5.3M left Al, go get Lofa for $2M
    _________________________________________________________

    I rather take a look at Na’il Diggs, Tatupo is done, too old, too slow..
    ———————————-
    Damn when did 28 become too old to play the linebacker position?

  • guest123

    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am
    Guest123, B. Campell is “competing”. He may end up starting by the end of his second year. Can’t really judge his status unless you are at practice every day, or for us common folk, we should know by this years end.

    **********

    I know, I’m not there to see it. But I’d like to clean house of all guys who are tweeners and projects. Either you define your spot on the field or get cut. 53 men on a mission. No babysitters needed.

  • crister

    So basically a whole bunch of nothing happened today.

  • bcz24

    19.raideredoutL.A. Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
    I was really impressed with the offensive line Sunday, NO has some beasts up the middle with Ellis and Rogers, and they held up well.
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    Remind Boller how well they held up against Rogers next week when he doesnt think his name is Batman anymore.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

    Guest123, so you were trying to make a statement, not really asking a question.
    “How many years for an O-lineman to work into the rotation before they are considered a bust?” is a question.
    “he lacks the proper knee-bend or other deficiency that makes him an easy mark for a good DT to leverage him out of the way, he’s a liability and needs to be cut.” is a statement.

  • rob_raider

    guys should stop thinking we can trade guys we will cut for anything of value. nobody would trade for miller or chaz at this point. the only tradeable parts we have are needed by us. we will likely be looking at cuts for LB’s. that’s about it.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    I wanted Lofa, but not so sure of it now, bad knees, not in game shape, and probably wants to still start and play MLB only.

  • Buckeyeraider

    Guest,

    Why is BCampbell teetering on bust status in your opinion?

    The guy missed most of this abbreviated training camp with an injury. Since, he’s been practicing Corkran has been reporting that he has looked very impressive. He is still battling for a starting spot. However, he will probably begin the season as the backup to Cooper Carlisle. CC is a steady, if unspectacular veteran presence on an otherwise young O-line.

    Bruce Campbell is the heir apparent, and his time is gonna come. He is a freakish athlete who is still a lil raw in his technique. He’ll be starting soon enough, and is gonna be a good one, IMO.

  • rob_raider

    Bcz24 Says:

    Remind Boller how well they held up against Rogers next week when he doesnt think his name is Batman anymore.

    *****************************

    ur killing me man–2 laugh-out-loud posts from u already–i’m a fan!

  • Tjbwall

    Guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    The fact he hasn’t contributed, even as a special teamer is a red flag, imo. I don’t see the practices and am not inspired by the sometimes glowing reports. If he lacks the proper knee-bend or other deficiency that makes him an easy mark for a good DT to leverage him out of the way, he’s a liability and needs to be cut. We need 53 guys who all can play any given Sunday in any situation.

    Bruce Campbell is no liability. I would like you to watch tape of game 2 and 3 and see the guy in practice and then call him a liability again. He is fighting Carlisle for the starting Rg spot, he has not had his chance to prove anything with the help of Tom Cable but this year he gets his chance and he will show us what he can do. Not a second before that should you say hes on a scholarship

  • guest123

    All I have seen in CC is him going backward on rollerskates. He’s got just enough technique to spring his man inside to open up the hole, but that is some kind of ugly blocking. CC is going to break his ankles one of these days with all those backward half sumersaults.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    RaiderDogg Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:28 am
    La Milicia Negra Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    $5.3M left Al, go get Lofa for $2M
    _________________________________________________________

    I rather take a look at Na’il Diggs, Tatupo is done, too old, too slow..
    ———————————-
    Damn when did 28 become too old to play the linebacker position?
    _______________________________________________________

    Bwaahahhaa , welllllll good point, Diggs is 5 years older than Lofa, but still, Tatupu acts/reacts like he is too old..

  • R8ER MIKE

    who said Glass was going to be cut?

  • http://www.tedhendricks.com/Ted_vs_Montana.jpg BigTed707

    -BHP’s MUP List-

    18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
    1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
    504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
    666 ; DVD – CB
    8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
    Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
    B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
    Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
    Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
    BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
    Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
    Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
    BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
    BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
    CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
    CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
    Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
    Dakota ; Chaz – WR
    Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
    Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
    Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
    Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
    FarEastRaider ; David Ausberry – TE
    Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
    GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
    Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
    HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
    Hueknows ; DHB – WR
    HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
    J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
    JB ; D.Moore – WR
    JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
    Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
    JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
    KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
    LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
    LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
    LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
    Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
    LTR ; DHB – WR
    M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
    Marios ; Barksdale – OL
    Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
    Meeze ; MM34 – S
    Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
    MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
    Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
    Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
    0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
    Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
    PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
    Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
    R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
    Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
    RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
    RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
    RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
    Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
    Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
    Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
    RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
    RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
    Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
    Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
    Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
    Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
    Redshirt ; Trent Edwards – QB
    RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
    Ryan ; Pryor – QB?
    Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
    SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
    Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
    SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
    SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
    Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
    SnB ; Chaz – WR
    SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
    Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
    TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
    Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
    YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
    Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL

  • DMAC

    Wassup peoples!
    Did someone say Na’il Diggs is available?
    Al should take a look at this guy.
    I think he played fairly well w/ the Panthers at some point in his career.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Boller sure did get flattened on the dirt. The O-line did give him the lil time to step up and throw a good ball for a completion at least.

  • guest123

    If B. Campbell can’t beat out old Coop, there’s a lot more that hasn’t been told. yeesh!

  • rob_raider

    i don’t think bruce is the problem–he is still battling to show his stuff. i’d say he needs to prove himself to be at least a quality backup this year. and if that’s all he ever is, that’s not so bad from a 4th rounder. he just got more attention than maybe he deserved b/c of the combine hype. but i sense he is in line to eventually take over at RG. in fact, by this time next year, we will likely be looking at veldheer-wiz-bruce-barks across the line. they could be around for a long time.

  • http://www.tedhendricks.com/Ted_vs_Montana.jpg BigTed707

    MUP Point Structure:

    Rec/Rush: Td’s = 5 pts
    Plays over 20 yards = 3 pts; 40yards = 4 pts; 50yards = 5pts
    Poor blocking = (-2)
    _

    QB:Td pass = 5 pts
    Pass over 100 = 2pts; 200 = 3pts; 300 =4pts
    Int (-4)
    _

    Defense: Pick six= 5 pts
    Int’s= 4 pts
    Sacks = 4pts
    Pass broken up =1pts
    Over 4 tackles = 2pts; 6 = 4pts; 8 = 5pts
    TFL = 2pts
    FF = 3pts
    FR = 3pts
    TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
    _

    Offense: Most agressive blocker = 5pts
    No sacks allowed = 4pts
    Sacks given up = (-2pts)
    Pre-snap penalty = (-3pts)
    _

    “Heads-Up” Heyer Award = (6pts): awarded to player who showed the best instinctive play.

  • DMAC

    Yo Ted,
    I’m a little behind. What’s this MUP list all about?

  • bcz24

    I dont know how Rogers didnt catch a fine in todays NFL for launching into and body slamming a qb… that happens to Brady or Manning and Rogers is probably freakin suspended.

  • qodrn

    How about explaining some of these abbreviations to us newbies? Some I get such as CC, but others? Just talking about player names.

    Looks like the 3rd could be really interesting. Will some of the “veterans” get cut?

    What trades could the Raiders make to sure up the corner back positions? Trade a running back?

  • guest123

    Big Ted, thanks for changing my MUP to TJ from Chimdi. Bau@e said I had to stick with Chimdi. Glad you’re flexible.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Big Ted..

    our guy is still alive!!

  • bcz24

    37.guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    If B. Campbell can’t beat out old Coop, there’s a lot more that hasn’t been told. yeesh!
    ********************
    Coop is a very stable starter… not spectacular but reliable none the less.

  • DMAC

    Coup is cool, but B. Campbell will be starting before seasons end.

    You heard it here 1st.
    Holla!

  • raideredoutL.A.

    I’ll take Hagan. He’s fully aware this might be his last shot to shine and he’s in great position to a big player for this team. Derek Hagan, my MUP.

  • guest123

    rob_raider Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    i don’t think bruce is the problem–he is still battling to show his stuff. i’d say he needs to prove himself to be at least a quality backup this year. and if that’s all he ever is, that’s not so bad from a 4th rounder. he just got more attention than maybe he deserved b/c of the combine hype. but i sense he is in line to eventually take over at RG. in fact, by this time next year, we will likely be looking at veldheer-wiz-bruce-barks across the line. they could be around for a long time.

    ********

    My frustration is in starting an old way past his prime vet in Coop when you have this young first-off-the-bus adonis who should by all rights claim the starting gig and be a man-beast at guard next to Veldheer. I always wanted to see that crew on the left side jack people up and road grade for DMC and Bush. It’s what a lot of us where salivating over when we got Beast Campbell.

  • bcz24

    qodrn Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
    How about explaining some of these abbreviations to us newbies? Some I get such as CC, but others? Just talking about player names.
    *********************
    Which dont you understand?

  • Tjbwall

    Guest123 Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    If B. Campbell can’t beat out old Coop, there’s a lot more that hasn’t been told. yeesh!
    =========================================================

    At the end of the day there is nothing more that B.Campbell can do, but manhandle everyone in practice and beast everyone in his path on gameday. Still CC is a seasoned vet and his spot will not be taken easily…we have a good situation at Rg and Hue is taking B.Campbell slow.

    Bruce Campbell should be the least of your worries Guest123