Wisniewski, Seymour and Mitchell still out; C.J. returns to practice
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, August 30th, 2011 at 11:55 am in Oakland Raiders.
Left guard Stefen Wisniewski, defensive tackle Richard Seymour, safety Mike Mitchell and wide receivers Chaz Schilens and Louis Murphy were among those who weren’t at practice Tuesday.
Wisniewski was in uniform but not taking part in drills. He has a wrap on his right knee, though it’s uncertain what the nature of his injury is or if coach Hue Jackson just opted to give him a day off.
Seymour was out of practice Friday in Napa. but he wasn’t injured, according to Jackson. Seymour also sat out the Raiders game against the New Orleans Saints on Sunday night with what Raiders play-by-play announcer Greg Papa described as a hamstring injury.
More later, when we have access to Jackson after practice.
On the bright side, cornerback Chris Johnson and defensive tackle John Henderson returned to practice after lenghty absences. Johnson was doing everything asked of the other defensive backs before media access ended at 11:45 a.m. He underwent surgery for an undisclosed injury about 10 days ago.
Henderson has been bothered by a sore foot for part of training camp. He is being counted upon to be a key part of Oakland’s defensive line rotation.
Other players who weren’t at practice: receiver Shawn Bayes, tight end Kevin Boss, fullback James McCluskey, safety Zac Etheridge, cornerback Jeremy Ware, linebackers Sam Williams, Chris Francis and Bruce Davis II, and guard Roy Schuening.
Quarterback Terrelle Pryor was in uniform and taking part in the quarterback drills for the second time since he joined the Raiders on Friday. Jackson said it’s possible that Pryor will play against the Seattle Seahawks on Friday night.
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August 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Great news having CJ back!
August 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Damn man are these guys made out of glass?! What is with the conditioning if every damn player gets injured?!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Tercero!
August 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am
67.Tjbwall Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am
RaideredoutL.A. Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
CC is arguably the best O-lineman we have, no way a 4th rounder should take his job in a 1yr or 2.
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Tell that to Kyle Boller when he let Shaun Rogers laid 400lbs on him. Haha Carlisle is out of his element in the power-blocking scheme & i want a beast that can get to the 2nd level..that is not CC’s game
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Raiders aren’t running an all power-blocking scheme, they’re mixing it up, even Bush said its all the same upon his return.
August 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Hendu!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
CC is “Arguably”. Never said hands down. He does lack the strength to hold up against those mammoth beasts.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
DMAC!….Sup wit it bruhski? You still not slappin
August 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I wonder does CC practice backward landings to prepare himself against concussions? Proper hand placement so he doesn’t fall on top of his hand as he gets flipped on his back? Are there ball bearings tucked in his cleats?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Fk Cooper Carlisle
August 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Big Hen-Dog is much needed this yr.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
That’s another Guy on the bubble… Mike Mitchell. . He’s chaz part deux. .. outta here!! Bye bye..Mike… wasted 2nd round pick..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Whats up wit it
August 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
In fairness, CC is getting it done and has good technique. He’s just too light in the shorts to do anything with bull rushers. That’s why I hope to see Beast Campbell in there, but he’s so damn slow developing! I guess I’m impatient.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
MM>Branch
Yeah I said it!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I like that we rag on the most consistent players on this team… it never gets old.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
What is even the matter with Mike Mitchell? what’s his injury?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
DMAC Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
MM>Branch
Yeah I said it!
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no you dint..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
MM outplayed Branch last season in his limited role.
Too bad he’s injured right now.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
MM34 a 2nd round could be considered a bust. Another 2nd round safety Taylor Mays was just given away for peanuts.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Conditioning seems to be a problem throughout the sports industry – baseball, football, etc. Suspect the cause is something the industry does throughout the sport, such as taping up everyone before the game, or the design of the pads, etc.
As an example, once upon at time, anyone who did lots of lifting at work was required to wear some king of velcro support for the lower back. Yes, the back felt much better with the belt after a long day. Short term injuries really went down…Then it happened. When these folks came down with a back injury, it was major due to the limitations caused by the belt. End of the belts.
Maybe too much conditioning is the culprit. Often conditioning leads to building up muscles unevenly.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
My final 53:
J.Campbell
K.Boller
T.Edwards (replaced by Pryor after 5-game suspension)
D.McFadden
M.Bush
T.Jones
R.Cartwright
M.Reece
M.Tonga
L.Murphy
D.Heyward-Bey
J.Ford
D.Moore
D.Hagan
C.Schilens
K.Boss
B.Myers
D.Ausberry
J.Barksdale
J.Veldheer
K.Barnes
B.Campbell
C.Carlisle
D.Loper
S.Wisniewski
S.Satele
S.Heyer
D.Bryant
T.Kelly
J.Henderson
M.Shaughnessy
R.Seymour
T.Scott
J.Moss
L.Houston
R.McClain
K.Wimbley
S.Williams
Q.Groves
D.Blackstock
S.Routt
C.Johnson
S.Moore
D.Van Dyke
J.Ware
L.Sheppard
M.Huff
T.Branch
M.Mitchell
S.Brown
S.Janikowski
S.Lechler
J.Condo
August 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Can you change my mup from Trent to Hagan?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
MM34 was an effective blitzer last season, good special teams player, and firey guy to keep around. With the loss of Eugene, he makes the team if not seriously injured.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Steve, just curious. Is there a limit on how many reporters a news group can send out to cover a team? How many reporters does the BANG send to a game? Any travel to road games this year?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
# redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Can I change my team from Raiders to CHARGERS?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Taylor Mays was overrated, overdrafted, and couldn’t cover anyone in the league. That Cincy traded for him is testament to their lack of scouting department.
Taylor Mays will be a UFL’r by the start of next year.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
CJ37 and Henderson back?
NICE!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
CC has been a pretty steady rg over the years… those young offensive linemen we have should feel embarrassed for not forcing that dinosaur into retirement. .. its to his credit.. Fk the other sorry linemen if they can’t take his job away…
August 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I think I’m with Redshirt. My MUP is Hagan…
August 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Bout to hit this shakey’s lunch buffet with a pitcher or 2. Have a good one, I’m out.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
DMAC!….Sup wit u bruhski? You are a CHARGERS fan!!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
How hurt is MM? How many weeks away? On crutches doesn’t begin to tell the details. If he’s over a month away, IR him or cut him already.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I thought B.Campbell had a good camp and looked decent in games? Carlisle is a bum.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
having CJ and Big John back is great news, I feel a whole heck of a lot better with Routt and CJ starting than Routt and DVD.
Has anyone checked out Routt’s personal website? I came acrossed it on accident and it’s really kind of entertaining. It’s kind of like he’s trying to pump himself up to everyone to make them think he is an elite corner or something (not that I don’t think that he’s not, I just think the jury is still out).
August 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
That’s another Guy on the bubble… DMAC. . His knees are done too. .. outta here!! Bye bye..DMAC… wasted pick..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Redshirt, you cutting Chekwa? Nah man.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Redshirt…
I think You’re really close…. Mitchell n chaz. .. should be happy goethel n Hiram Eugene are out.. if we only keep 5 Wr.. I say cut chaz. .. Ive had it with that Chinese porcelain doll..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Keep chekwa. .. bye bye chaz
August 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
For all those who consistently blast Mr D for giving Routt the money, now do you see why??
Last year Routt covered most #1’s for opposing teams and people didn’t notice because no one threw at Nnamdi so most of time no one knew WHO he was covering.
Also as far as our secondary is concerned the WR’s and TE for Drew Brees made some fantastic catches more than Brees beating coverage those guys just made a ton of plays because some of those passess should’ve been picks. If we see him again I think they will be.
Also the Dline didn’t only miss Big Sey but TK barely played we were always in nickle with Houston and Bryant at the DT’s I only saw TK in on the first drive and some short yardage.
As much Hue is saying he wants to win these preseason games he’s not playing the players he CAN WIN them with. So I think Hue is trying to under sell and over deliver only it’s not working the way he would like. If he wanted to win no way Ford and DMC dit out these games when they are healthy. Seymour is healthy yet he didn’t play. All of a sudden CJ is practicing was he healthy too?
Hue jackson has soem Sly Fox in him he’s playing possum IMO because I think not only could CJ have played but so could Lito Sheppard. He’s not so much trying to win that he going to show his hand. He’s trying to win with what he’s willing to show.
I was able to see the game last night and TJ is sick with it. He has unlimited potential you don’t get your first carry and lay down funk like that unless you have some stuff that is way beyond what people can have in mind. His makumiss is second to none we are going to have a ton of fun watching that kid do the Boogaloo.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Taylor Mays was overrated, overdrafted, and couldn’t cover anyone in the league. That Cincy traded for him is testament to their lack of scouting department.
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They traded a 2013 7th round pick (for a guy pickedi n the top half of round 2 last year)… how is that a lack of scouting? If the guy makes one special teams tackle in the next 2 years he is already better than 80% of 7th rounders.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
“I thought B.Campbell had a good camp and looked decent in games? Carlisle is a bum.”
Carlisle is still the starter until someone takes it away from him.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Dvpriick…
I hope we can cut you.. outta here!!
you ahole..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
I am so tired of everyone saying how its ok Brees tore us apart because he is an elite QB.
Well guess what, if you want to be a playoff team you need to be able to beat guys like Brees or like Rodgers.
Stop making excuses our D sucked weather its preseason or not it was horrible to watch.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Keep chekwa. .. bye bye chaz
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dern right!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
dvrick the human swinging dingleberry is back.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
The jury came in 2 years ago on Routt and it says he has the goods if you can’t see that guy can cover you don’t understand what a cover corner looks like. No he’s not Nnamdi but Routt has been an elite corner for 2 years. When he beat out CJ he hasn’t missed a beat and now CJ has to step into that next level where you can say the same thing about him. Routt was outstanding last year just outstanding.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I think the injuries are directly related to the lockout. no strength and conditioning coaches.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Yeah, you guys are probably right about Chaz. With Murphy, Ford, Moore and now Hagan, who gives a fvck!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I can forgive the 2 point conversions because their kicker was hurt. But the Saints going for it on 4th and 2 on the opening drive was like a lack of respect, in your face bush league move. They could have taken the 3 and kicked off, but they wanted to show up the Raiders on national TV, and they did. And it was all punctuated with Mark Ingram’s taunting by thowing the ball at the black hole. How’d he not get flagged for that?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
My MUP is definitely Hagan…. that Guy was a true find… hagan n Ford. .. should be our starters. .. Murphy. Moore. .!! And I guess dhb??
August 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Opening day WR’s should be Hagan-Ford-Moore in the XYZ. If Hue can’t make this happen, we know he’s getting his strings pulled.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Carlisle is a waste of space….when we go against a beast dline u shall see what i mean
August 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I like that list redshirt…. I think your going to hit 98%… not bad… I’m in with that list.. even if chaz does make it… I know the man has talent… but he’s never..never. .healthy..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
44.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
I am so tired of everyone saying how its ok Brees tore us apart because he is an elite QB.
Well guess what, if you want to be a playoff team you need to be able to beat guys like Brees or like Rodgers.
Stop making excuses our D sucked weather its preseason or not it was horrible to watch.
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If you want to be a playoff team you need an oline who can handle the top tier dlinemen out there….Carlise stinks and Satele is average at best….gonna have to remedy that…Bruce Campbell please step it up
August 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Ghost raider I could not agree with you more but for the money Al paid for DHB. He starts him watch.
If our WRs can stay healthy we would have one heck of a WR rotation. DHB some how some way has to get some hands and stop playing so tight.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
For all those who consistently blast Mr D for giving Routt the money, now do you see why??
Last year Routt covered most #1’s for opposing teams and people didn’t notice because no one threw at Nnamdi so most of time no one knew WHO he was covering.
Also as far as our secondary is concerned the WR’s and TE for Drew Brees made some fantastic catches more than Brees beating coverage those guys just made a ton of plays because some of those passess should’ve been picks. If we see him again I think they will be.
Also the Dline didn’t only miss Big Sey but TK barely played we were always in nickle with Houston and Bryant at the DT’s I only saw TK in on the first drive and some short yardage.
As much Hue is saying he wants to win these preseason games he’s not playing the players he CAN WIN them with. So I think Hue is trying to under sell and over deliver only it’s not working the way he would like. If he wanted to win no way Ford and DMC dit out these games when they are healthy. Seymour is healthy yet he didn’t play. All of a sudden CJ is practicing was he healthy too?
Hue jackson has soem Sly Fox in him he’s playing possum IMO because I think not only could CJ have played but so could Lito Sheppard. He’s not so much trying to win that he going to show his hand. He’s trying to win with what he’s willing to show.
I was able to see the game last night and TJ is sick with it. He has unlimited potential you don’t get your first carry and lay down funk like that unless you have some stuff that is way beyond what people can have in mind. His makumiss is second to none we are going to have a ton of fun watching that kid do the Boogaloo.
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Priest I couldn’t agree with you more! I was gonna say pretty much the exact same thing!
Why on earth would the coaches tip their hand and reveal their looks and schemes on OFFENSE and DEFENSE in the freakin PRESEASON!
Hue Jackson is not stupid…That man is playing POSSUM and rightfully so!
Remember when the Raiders surprised everyone and blitzed the hell out of Philly? Completely confused the entire NFL that week who believed that we are completely unaware and oblivious to the concept of blitzing!
The element of surprise, when used effectively, is a powerful weapon.
Maybe some of these morons in here will realize that the whole purpose of the pre season is to evaluate the new players, and see how they react in real game time situations…
Yes they want to win, but they want to win based on natural talent and ability, not scheme and game plan.
Come week 1 in Denver I think we will see what this team is REALLY capable of!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
52.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Opening day WR’s should be Hagan-Ford-Moore in the XYZ. If Hue can’t make this happen, we know he’s getting his strings pulled.
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What about DHB?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Finding out if Pryir is a/the future at QB has to be a top priority.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
What about DHB?
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He can stand on the sideline at the ready with the gatorade squirt bottle when the offense comes off the field.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Regarding Taylor Mays…didn’t Pete Carroll pass him up and draft another safety instead? May’s was quoted as being pissed off at Carroll about it but if Carroll could pass a player he had at USC…what does that say about Mays?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
CJ…
Chirs collinsworth… showed that one replay when dhb ran a straight line down field. .. didn’t even try to hint a break. .. that’s why that Guy can’t get going… probably the least imaginitive Wr we have… no jukes or moves what so ever… we could get Hussein bolt to do that..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Armchair,
the reason teams show real looks in the 3rd pre-season game (assuming it’s not a reg. season opponent) is that you have to try that stuff live at SOME point in the pre-season.
You think Chuck wants to wait until Denver to “try” a bunch of stuff the players haven’t practiced vs live competition?
So you use some of it the 3rd week, when the starters are in there.
You saw a boatload of screens, audibles, etc on offense. To think they were playing vanilla on defense is wrong. Well, they kinda play vanilla all the time, but you get my point
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
RaideredoutL.A. Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Bout to hit this shakey’s lunch buffet with a pitcher or 2. Have a good one, I’m out.
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Man, the last time I had Shakey’s was in Truckee bout 10 years ago.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
60.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
What about DHB?
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He can stand on the sideline at the ready with the gatorade squirt bottle when the offense comes off the field.
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What are you crazy? DHb stretches the field and is key to creating everything from the run, to the pass underneath the D. Heck he even takes a lot of pressure off of JC. He is excited when DHB is out there.
I will never forget that one big catch he had last year for a TD. It was worth the cash. Plus, he can block!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Yeah Ghost,
it’s obvious when we spend all this time drafting “athletes” instead of football players, and then saddle them with former players instead of high-quality coaches,
these athletes aren’t learning the nuances of positions.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
CJ…
Chirs collinsworth… showed that one replay when dhb ran a straight line down field. .. didn’t even try to hint a break. .. that’s why that Guy can’t get going… probably the least imaginitive Wr we have… no jukes or moves what so ever… we could get Hussein bolt to do that..
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and what bothers me most is the lack of expression on DHB’s face afterward. He’s just stoic. He’s not surprised he didn’t catch the ball or even angry about it. He’s ashen gray and his body language is “oh well…sigh”.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
CJ.. its sad but probably true.. dhb will start.. geez.. whata disgrace. ..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
You guys notice how thin we are at LB. I guess they can move Scott over to the Will, but if I were Al I’d think really hard about giving Tatupu whatever he wants to take a backseat to RoMac and start the Will or Sam.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Too late for a MUP entry? My pick is Taiwan Jones. BEAST!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Remember Al Davis believes he can just line up better athletes across the field, say GO!, and win.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Yeah Ghost,
it’s obvious when we spend all this time drafting “athletes” instead of football players, and then saddle them with former players instead of high-quality coaches,
these athletes aren’t learning the nuances of positions.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Now people want to cut mm34?!?! Wow that is ridiculous.
MM 34 was a 2nd round pick and played a major role in last years defense. the only reason he isnt contributing this season is because he is injured. he was better than branch last year and may have challenged for a starting gig this year if he wasnt injured.
calling him a bust is an out rage, but saying he should be cut is flat out clueless.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I think you are really underestimating what DHB brings to this team. What games are you watching?
LMAO!!! I can’t go through with it. He sucks man!!!
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62.ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
CJ…
Chirs collinsworth… showed that one replay when dhb ran a straight line down field. .. didn’t even try to hint a break. .. that’s why that Guy can’t get going… probably the least imaginitive Wr we have… no jukes or moves what so ever… we could get Hussein bolt to do that..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
CJ.. its sad but probably true.. dhb will start.. geez.. whata disgrace. ..
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I’m betting that DHB starts but shares quite a bit of his playing time.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
And it was all punctuated with Mark Ingram’s taunting by thowing the ball at the black hole. How’d he not get flagged for that?
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Because its the black hole
August 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
DHb stretches the field and is key to creating everything from the run, to the pass underneath the D. Heck he even takes a lot of pressure off of JC. He is excited when DHB is out there.
I will never forget that one big catch he had last year for a TD. It was worth the cash. Plus, he can block!!!
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How does Bey stretch the field? Does he ever require double coverage? Do the safeties cheat? Maybe at first, but he’s a known quantity now. He’s not even effective as a decoy anymore. Blocking WR’s are not a high value commodity. He does work hard, but he’s never going to develop into an even average WR. Has the same instincts receiving as DVD does defending.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
72.alex7 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Yeah Ghost,
it’s obvious when we spend all this time drafting “athletes” instead of football players, and then saddle them with former players instead of high-quality coaches,
these athletes aren’t learning the nuances of positions.
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75% of the coaches in the league are former players you jackass
August 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
24 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Regarding Taylor Mays…didn’t Pete Carroll pass him up and draft another safety instead? May’s was quoted as being pissed off at Carroll about it but if Carroll could pass a player he had at USC…what does that say about Mays?
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I also remember it being reported that Mays said Carroll tricked him into thinking he was top 10 talent, telling him that he was the best defensive player in the league back when they were at USC. And then Carroll passes on Mays in the 1st round and he slips all the way to the 2nd.
That’s gotta sting, but what do you expect a coach to tell his most talented players? You’re average at best?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@Redshirt Mostly good. I see no way they keep two fullbacks. Probably more likely to keep four tight ends because of injuries.
Doubt Chekwa would get cut. And despite his play I doubt S.Moore gets anything but a spot on the practice squad.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Guest – can’t blame the saints for going for it on 4th and 2 the way our defence was playing. Hue should have taken the pnalty which would have made it 3rd and 12.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Guest – can’t blame the saints for going for it on 4th and 2 the way our defence was playing. Hue should have taken the pnalty which would have made it 3rd and 12.
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Do you think it would have made a difference?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
solid 53 redshirt can’t see us keeping Tonga although I like the idea of having at least one real blocking FB. Don’t know if they’ll keep him but i still like B Davis potential. The guy is so athletic and has great size to become a OLB sometimes transition takes longer when you’ve been playing Dline all your life
August 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
you don’t like Kelly? He was blowing plays up last year…
August 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
80.rediaR Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@Redshirt Mostly good. I see no way they keep two fullbacks. Probably more likely to keep four tight ends because of injuries.
Doubt Chekwa would get cut. And despite his play I doubt S.Moore gets anything but a spot on the practice squad.
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Would be tragically dumb to not keep two FBs….just for the mere fact Reece can run block to save his life is why you will need Tonga
August 30th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Well if we would have stopped them and if it was fourth and long – yes.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
77.guest123 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
DHb stretches the field and is key to creating everything from the run, to the pass underneath the D. Heck he even takes a lot of pressure off of JC. He is excited when DHB is out there.
I will never forget that one big catch he had last year for a TD. It was worth the cash. Plus, he can block!!!
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How does Bey stretch the field? Does he ever require double coverage? Do the safeties cheat? Maybe at first, but he’s a known quantity now. He’s not even effective as a decoy anymore. Blocking WR’s are not a high value commodity. He does work hard, but he’s never going to develop into an even average WR. Has the same instincts receiving as DVD does defending.
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Guest I was just bull crapping!!! DHB sucks right now!!! I just thought I would use some of that foolishness we keep hearing from the coaching staff.
I will say that DVD is a project. He was taken in a later round where he should have been taken. It would have been nice to go lower but we needed a DB and there was a major drop in the draft on DBs if we would have waited. This blog pumped the guy up way to much. I mean lets be honest he did not even start his senior year. DVD is thinking way to much right now noting is by instinct yet. Once he gets to that level we will see. I mean give the guy a break he played Fitzy one weeke and Breeze the next.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
85.inonewordraider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
you don’t like Kelly? He was blowing plays up last year…
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No he wasnt….he isnt consistent and never will be. Guy sucks! I was down for that cat and defended him on here but facts are facts and the guy is a reserve UT with no run stopping skills to speak of
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I have a feeling or call it a hunch that the final 53 is going to shuffled after the final cutdown, and we’ll add one or two castoffs from other teams. We’ll go yard-sale-ing.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Method To My Madness
I know you hate Cooper its cool. Someone has to take his spot and until they do we are stuck with him weather or not I think he is good or you think he stinks.
Here is a clip for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3oAnkhYSdM
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
81.No Mas Diamante Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Guest – can’t blame the saints for going for it on 4th and 2 the way our defence was playing. Hue should have taken the pnalty which would have made it 3rd and 12.
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Who cares… they completed a 14 yard pass on that play. Would have been a first penalty or not
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
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He did make the Pro Bowl last season..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 11:48 am
LMN
How are you these days?
I was going to say if 28 is old I am screwed! What about Julian Peterson, is he done? I think he is 31 or 32…
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better and better, though as always, all teams i root for sux these days..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
I am excited about our WRs tis year.
They are going to be strong!!!!
We have big talent on the o-line of the ball and the way our Dbs look they better play big!!! We need to run up the score to win.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
DMAC Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
MM>Branch
Yeah I said it!
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Im with you all the way on this 1 bruh
I have a question; what can Branch do that MM34 cant do
August 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Hey BigTed, can u please change my MUP to T.Jones? After seeing him live sunday nite i have a strong feeling he’s gonna get more touches than Ausberry this season, even with DMac & Bush. Thanks!!
August 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Big Ted…
that point system sux, nobody playing ST will ever win..
August 30th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
93.redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
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He did make the Pro Bowl last season..
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Yeah suuuuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeee in what galaxy was that?
August 30th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
666…..cooper carlisle is ZBS player who lacks the brute strength to be a power RG…..ill pray Bruce gets up to speed quick
August 30th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Anyone who wants to cut Mitchell or B.Campbell is insane.
Anyone who wants to cut Chaz is rightfully jaded, but it still wont happen. And it shouldn’t. You are essentially keeping N.Miller over him at that point.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
solid 53 redshirt can’t see us keeping Tonga although I like the idea of having at least one real blocking FB. Don’t know if they’ll keep him but i still like B Davis potential. The guy is so athletic and has great size to become a OLB sometimes transition takes longer when you’ve been playing Dline all your life
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I like the idea of both Tonga and Reece because Tonga can block and Reece just makes great plays (even with the limited time he gets). I’d rather see Tonga at fullback and Reece getting Cartwright’s spot.
Not sure about Bruce Davis or Blackstock, haven’t heard anything about these guys. Went with Blackstock because he’s got experience.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Redshirt…….exactly on the FB issue
August 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
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Would be tragically dumb to not keep two FBs….just for the mere fact Reece can run block to save his life is why you will need Tonga
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We seemed fine without him last year. No indication from the preseason that we will keep two fullbacks.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
like the idea of both Tonga and Reece because Tonga can block and Reece just makes great plays (even with the limited time he gets). I’d rather see Tonga at fullback and Reece getting Cartwright’s spot.
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Cartwright is FAR to valuable on ST… he singlehandedly created the lane for at LEAST one of Fords TD returns last year, and Rock is a good leader on this team.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
BTW I agree that Tonga would be great to keep for his blocking. I just don’t think it will happen.
August 30th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
104.rediaR Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
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Would be tragically dumb to not keep two FBs….just for the mere fact Reece can run block to save his life is why you will need Tonga
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We seemed fine without him last year. No indication from the preseason that we will keep two fullbacks.
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See this is the problem with some on this site…..you let some mirages fool into thinking we are a GREAT running team when in fact we are just good at it. We also did alot of one back sets. Reece cant block at all….he cant and everyone except a few on here know it. Cant lay your hat on 2010 anymore…its new year and other teams have film on us now
August 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Redia….i understand your angle….but we need a hammerhead at FB…Reece does what 3-4 good plays a game max? Not enough meat and potatoes….just a side dish
August 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Big Ted…
that point system sux, nobody playing ST will ever win..
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Why not? True there is nothing there for a kicker, but nobody on the list picked a kicker.
Rush yardage, Tackles, and Fumbles, and TDs still applies to ‘teams.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
93.redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
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He did make the Pro Bowl last season..
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Yeah suuuuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeee in what galaxy was that?
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whatever galaxy BHP is living in
August 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Another mirage is that we have a great dline
August 30th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
110.redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
93.redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BHP……spare us on Tommy Kelly….the guy stinks to high hell and you know it. We are sick of this guy
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He did make the Pro Bowl last season..
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Yeah suuuuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeee in what galaxy was that?
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whatever galaxy BHP is living in
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Ouch lol
August 30th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
“just a side dish”
Like the chili feed to Scott Tennerman?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
What are you guys smoking???
Ill take Branch…. hands down over Mitchell. .
with that thinking. .. you guys probably prefer dhb over Ford n hagan
August 30th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
113.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
“just a side dish”
Like the chili feed to Scott Tennerman?
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
August 30th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
What are you guys smoking???
Ill take Branch…. hands down over Mitchell. .
with that thinking. .. you guys probably prefer dhb over Ford n hagan
………….
If you are talking about who should get the starting spot for line cook at Applebee’s then, yeah, I prefer DHB over Ford n Hagan.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Rock’s a great locker room guy, but his value to the team is overstated. He’s not that valuable a special teamer that he can’t be replaced. Rock is def. on the bubble. But before he goes, I hope they cut Schilens and Miller. Praying for a surprise cut of DHB too.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Rush yardage, Tackles, Fumbles, and TDs still apply to ‘teams.
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not to mention the coveted “Heads-Up” Award, worth the most points.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
What are you guys smoking???
Ill take Branch…. hands down over Mitchell. .
with that thinking. .. you guys probably prefer dhb over Ford n hagan
Mitchell has looked better playing the pass branch better against the run in my opinion
August 30th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
CJ…
Chirs collinsworth… showed that one replay when dhb ran a straight line down field. .. didn’t even try to hint a break. .. that’s why that Guy can’t get going… probably the least imaginitive Wr we have… no jukes or moves what so ever… we could get Hussein bolt to do that..
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I am superised Bolt is not in Silver and Black yet.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
-BHP’s MUP List-
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
August 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
MUP Point Structure:
Rec/Rush: Td’s = 5 pts
Plays over 20 yards = 3 pts; 40yards = 4 pts; 50yards = 5pts
Poor blocking = (-2)
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QB:Td pass = 5 pts
Pass over 100 = 2pts; 200 = 3pts; 300 =4pts
Int (-4)
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Defense: Pick six= 5 pts
Int’s= 4 pts
Sacks = 4pts
Pass broken up =1pts
Over 4 tackles = 2pts; 6 = 4pts; 8 = 5pts
TFL = 2pts
FF = 3pts
FR = 3pts
TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
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Offense: Most agressive blocker = 5pts
No sacks allowed = 4pts
Sacks given up = (-2pts)
Pre-snap penalty = (-3pts)
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“Heads-Up” Heyer Award = (6pts): awarded to player who showed the best instinctive play.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Uusally I hate Cris Collinsworth, but I thought he was very perceptive and fair in pointing out both the flaws and the strengths the Raiders are working with this year. First time for everything I guess.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
What is the MUP thing? I didn’t get back to the blog before that had went on…
August 30th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
big ted – put me down for DVD please. thanks
August 30th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Anytime you guys disagree with me I know I’m right….LOL
August 30th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
What are you guys smoking???
Ill take Branch…. hands down over Mitchell. .
with that thinking. .. you guys probably prefer dhb over Ford n hagan
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WRONG #1Hagan#2Ford#3Moore#4Murph#5Schilens#6DHB
If you watch any tape of Branch last year & the last 3 games of preseason you see become aware that Branch has NO cover skills & takes very bad angles making his speed useless..On the other hand Mitchell developed a reputation for being able to cover the Te quite handily and laying big hits(because he doesnt take bad angles)on other players. Not to mention mm34 does very well in the box against the run
Like i said “what can Branch do that MM34 can’t do”
August 30th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Especially some of you who want to cut the entire team over some preseason games…………plain retarded.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
# oaktown1 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Watch the Raiders get destroyed by Seattle’s QB Tavaras Jackson!Hope Hue gets fired!!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
What is the MUP thing? I didn’t get back to the blog before that had went on…
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Most Underrated/Underdog player.
Like: Who will come out of nowhere and produce this season, like Hagan did last weekend?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
# oaktown1 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Watch the Raiders get destroyed by Seattle’s QB Tavaras Jackson!Hope Hue gets fired Monday!!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What can branch do that Mitchell can’t??
Hmmmm… Stay Healthy!! Not be Injury prone!! Play starting safety for the raiders!!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Dvrick Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I LIKE LITTLE BOYS!!!!
………..
We know bro. Now get out of here, your mommy’s got your bottle nice and warmed up for you.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
priesttj,
I hope we can cut you.. outta here!!
you ahole..
August 30th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
BigTed,
Ahh, I see. I’ll play.
Put me down for Jason Campbell.
Odd to name the starting QB as an underdog player, but it seems no one here believes in him. Well, eff it, I will. I’m a contrarian, what can I say!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
128.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Especially some of you who want to cut the entire team over some preseason games…………plain retarded.
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Agreed! The amount of panic by “Raider fans” i saw on this blog since sunday nite was absolutely disgusting!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
126.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Anytime you guys disagree with me I know I’m right….LOL
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LOL!
I think you just opened the door for a slew of posts headed your way.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Now they want Mitchell vut because he’s hurt, that is exactly what I mean. There were guys on here who wanted CJ cut. They wanted Bruce Campbell cut because he was injured it’s whichever way the wind is blowing today that’s the way you guys go. Typical fans
August 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I don’t like that list redshirt…. I think your going to hit 10%… bad… I’m not in with that list.. even if chaz does make it… I know the man has no talent… and he’s never..never. .healthy..
August 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Ghostraiders im sorry but i can’t help to imagine the pain that MM34 would put on people if he was in the position that we have put Branch in.
Last game on numerous occasions did i see Branch with the perfect opportunity to lay a MADDEN HIT STICK on the guy
Branch is on a low-key scholarship & im wondering when it will run out
August 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
dvrick – the pesky dingleberry has returned.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Hagan > DHB
August 30th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Jhill has that ever bothered me??? I always stand alone or with just a few I don’t fall for the herd mentality I call it as I see it.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
BigTed,
Ahh, I see. I’ll play.
Put me down for Jason Campbell.
Odd to name the starting QB as an underdog player, but it seems no one here believes in him. Well, eff it, I will. I’m a contrarian, what can I say!
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J-Camp is not MUP eligible. Sorry nothing personal, but others have already been denied that selection.
To be MUP eligible, your position as a Starter must at least be in question.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Guess if i wanted more mup points i shouldnt have taken an o-lineman.. but if it were the regular season i would have gotten 6 pts !!!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
I want Mitchell cut because he’s hurt, that is exactly what I mean. There were guys on here who wanted CJ cut me included. I wanted Bruce Campbell cut because he was injured it’s whichever way the wind is blowing today that’s the way you I go.I’m a Typical fan
August 30th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I am the pesky dingleberry and I’ve returned.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
# redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I LIKE LITTLE BOYS!!!!
………..
We know bro. Now get out of here, your mommy’s got your bottle nice and warmed up for you.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What can branch do that Mitchell can’t??
Hmmmm… Stay Healthy!! Not be Injury prone!! Play starting safety for the raiders!!
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Mm34 has yet to miss a regular season game….just saying…..in case you didn’t know
August 30th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
J-Camp is not MUP eligible. Sorry nothing personal, but others have already been denied that selection.
To be MUP eligible, your position as a Starter must at least be in question
+++++++++
Daaaaaaaaammmmmmit.
Hmmmmmm.
Aight, put me down for Taiwan Jones then.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Dvrick Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Me and Master Beeeeeecham like to drink margaritas naked in the hot tub together. Just the two of us. We have a plate of cocktail wieners in case we get hungry from all the horseplay.
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o.O
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
GHOSTRAIDER LIKES LITTLE BOYS!!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t get the Tyvon Branch love in here.
Mike Mitchell couldn’t possibly be any worse in pass coverage.
Branch PERSONALLY gave up 3 TDs in our opening game last year and never got back on track.
So what he make tackles 20 yds down the field.
Branch is the DHB of the secondary.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Aight, put me down for Taiwan Jones then.
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right on
August 30th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Anytime you guys disagree with me I know I’m right….Lets move to LA.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Now Branch is on scholarship……..LOL
You can’t make this stuff up it’s damn near a looney bin. One of the best safties we have is now on scholarship.
Listen just because YOU don’t like a player doesn’t mean he cannot play. he may not have the exact attributes you think he should have but don’t get CRAZY!!
I was watching Archie Bunker yesterday with my father-in-law and it reminded me of the guys in here. Overly opinionated and with not much insight. But Oh No!! They have it all worked out the coaches are blind if they don’t do it MY WAY then Al Davis is the reason………….LOL
August 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
113.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
“just a side dish”
Like the chili feed to HUE JACKASSES Backbottomside?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
If Tyvon Branch had ANY coverage skills, he’d be our starting FS and Huff would not have been resigned.
Branch is too aggressive and prone to pump fakes and look offs.
Can’t play a lick of zone and does not have the play recognition to be an impact player at that position.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Big John shouldn’t touch the field until season opener. If him and CJ are practicing but Chaz isn’t that’s a damn shame
August 30th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Me and Master Beeeeeecham like to drink margaritas naked in the hot tub together. Just the two of us. We have a plate of cocktail wieners in case we get hungry from all the horseplay.
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o.O
August 30th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t get the Tyvon Branch love in here.
Mike Mitchell couldn’t possibly be any worse in pass coverage.
Branch PERSONALLY gave up 3 TDs in our opening game last year and never got back on track.
So what he make tackles 20 yds down the field.
Branch is the DHB of the secondary.
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MM34>Branch You people should watch the tape and not the statistics
August 30th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
# redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Me and Master Beeeeeecham like to drink margaritas naked in the hot tub together. Just the two of us. We have a plate of cocktail wieners in case we get hungry from all the horseplay.
…………….
o.O
August 30th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
J-Camp is not MUP eligible. Sorry nothing personal, but others have already been denied that selection.
To be MUP eligible, your position as a Starter must at least be in question
+++++++++
Daaaaaaaaammmmmmit.
Hmmmmmm.
Aight, put me down for Taiwan Jones then.
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Good Choice…
August 30th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
128.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Especially some of us who want to cut the entire team over the preseason games…………plain truth, we should.
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Agreed! The amount of panic by “Raider fans” i saw on this blog since sunday nite was absolutely RIGHT!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Man did anybody see that the Lions beat the Patriots 34-10! It was the 3rd preseason game, the super bowl of the preseason, the final dress rehearsal. They must be really panicking in New England? Matt Stafford really carved them up.
Well you cannot discount the fact that the Patriots drafted a QB in the 3rd round. They must not be happy with Brady.
I cannot claim credit for this awesome insight. I have been reading the blog regularly and following the words of some really “special” raider fans.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
It seems to me like Branch just needs to get into the film room.
McClain talked about knowing the play and where it’s going BEFORE the snap.
I don’t see ANY of that in Branch.
Started to see it from Huff last year, which is why he made such a big jump.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Good call, J Hill @165.
I think that reason is why McClain is going to make a huge leap forward this year.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Errr…comment 166. Ah, whatever.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I am convinced our O is gna be good enough to outscore weak teams like Buff Denver and Cleveland regardless of how are D fares. But what happens when a D like the Jets keep it low scoring, will our D be able to hang?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
So I guess Mitchell is our best saftey?? Huh?? I know Huff is not our best saftey… and with the Branch bashing… he’s not our best either… so I guess Mitchell is our best saftey??? LOL..
Maybe the raider coaches haven’t realized that yet….
August 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Jhill Branch is not a great cover safety is true we all see that but to insenuate that he is not an impact player is way way way off. Huff was resigned for his verstility the way they will use him this year you’ll see what I mean. Mike Mitchell is a very good safety as well he can cover much better than Branch as can Huff but Branch is a natural FS.
What you guys don’t see in these coverages is that we play our safeties interchangeable there is no FS there is no SS we do what night be termed as matchup coverage and sometimes we get schemed and we get beat. But as far as SS FS forget that concept I’ve been trying to figure it out all preseason and the truth is there is neither we’re just matching up and playing. Because on one play Branch is in the box the next play he’s single high so to be honest I can’t figure out what position he plays. Huff has played as much corner as he has safety.
So to argue about this stuff is MUTE just watch how they play and you’ll see I’m right Huff was playing the slot most of the game vs NO.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
any team cut that linebacker we are looking for yet??
August 30th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Huff is our best safety. I like Huff, but that’s not a high hurdle to skim, you know?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@Jhill
Branch is the rated the 4th best SS…in Madden 2012.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
How in the heck can you say in one breath that Branch can’t cover, but you think he can play FS for us?
The number one job for our FS is zone coverage.
Cmon Priest!
Mitchell is better in coverage, but Branch is a better FS in the Raider scheme?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Hue Jackson has similar problems as other Raider coaches have had.
Lots of penalties
Poor run defense
Giving up big plays on defense especially on 3rd down
I think we all expected to see some of those issues addressed and we wanted to see improvement on these things during the preseason.
Fact is we have not seen much improvement on these lingering issues during the preseason games.
So say what you want to about fans complaining but most of us have the right to complain because we put our money where our mouth is we go to games and buy jerseys and each year we hope for a better team.
Whats wrong with fans wanting to see improvement?
I would like to know?
August 30th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Dvrick Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
# oaktown1 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Watch the Raiders get destroyed by Seattle’s QB Tavaras Jackson!Hope Hue gets fired!!!!
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If he looks this bad in Dungver… Next man up! Saunders.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I’ve been trying to figure it out all preseason and the truth is there is neither we’re just matching up and playing. Because on one play Branch is in the box the next play he’s single high so to be honest I can’t figure out what position he plays.
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Branc is single deep when we blitz Brown and Huff at the same time.
Did you see the play where the WR got by him but Flynn over threw him?
Pathetic.
If you want to go to the “film”, I’d be happy to point out at least 4 plays in the first 3 drives where Branch was not where he should have been.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
We thought our problem would be the offense. Now it looks like our problem may be the defense. But we really won’t know anything until the first game. The only thing that is for sure is that we have some damn fine running backs.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Branch played Cb in college..yet he couldn’t cover so we said hey, maybe he can play SS haha WRONG. I wouldnt go as far to say he was an impact player tho…he is fast enough to tackle players after they do their damage, thats it. MM34 has played SS all his life and he knows how to hit like one.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I am convinced our O is gna be good enough to outscore weak teams like Buff Denver and Cleveland regardless of how are D fares. But what happens when a D like the Jets keep it low scoring, will our D be able to hang?
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No we won’t be able to hang. Unless our D and O improve. D needs to GREATLY.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
well my surprise standout for the season, Mr. Lammak has been cut
my call on the MNF will stand:
Raiders 35 – Denver 10
August 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Jhill because a FS doesn’t have the responsibility of coverage he’s a FREE SAFETY it denotes his responsibility is center field. The FS reads the QB and tries to guess which side he may throw then he commits to that play the SS has the resonsibility of the TE he has to cover him he is the (strongside safety) which means TE which ever side the TE is on is the strongside that’s the side the SS is responsible for.
While the FREE safety plays over the top of the defense. That allows him to be essentially free from direct responsibility. He offers help to whatever corner is being targeted by the QB. FREE(Freedom to chose) which side to play.
August 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
our best safety is the coach!
August 30th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Huff couldn’t tackle so we said hey, lets make him a Fs
Branch couldnt cover so we said hey lets put him at SS
Huff diving at players ankles and Branch’s bad angles were part of this teams reason for its lack of run stopping. Yet you see Branch by the end of the year with 100 tackles and say HEY THIS GUY IS OUR BEST SAFETY??WRONG
August 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Tjbwall Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Huff couldn’t tackle so we said hey, lets make him a Fs
Branch couldnt cover so we said hey lets put him at SS
Huff diving at players ankles and Branch’s bad angles were part of this teams reason for its lack of run stopping. Yet you see Branch by the end of the year with 100 tackles and say HEY THIS GUY IS OUR BEST SAFETY??WRONG
Huff hasn’t looked good in preseason but he’s covered well his whole career was a much better tackler last season and came up with some big plays. He played at a pro bowl level last year
August 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
riesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Jhill because a FS doesn’t have the responsibility of coverage he’s a FREE SAFETY it denotes his responsibility is center field. The FS reads the QB and tries to guess which side he may throw then he commits to that play the SS has the resonsibility of the TE he has to cover him he is the (strongside safety) which means TE which ever side the TE is on is the strongside that’s the side the SS is responsible for.
While the FREE safety plays over the top of the defense. That allows him to be essentially free from direct responsibility. He offers help to whatever corner is being targeted by the QB. FREE(Freedom to chose) which side to play.
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Graham the TE killed the Raiders….blame that on MM34
August 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Your free safety is normally the smartest player in the sceondary because he can do a number of responsibilities based on what he sees the offense trying to do. He is the QB of the secondary he calls the formations and he sets the secondary.
If you watch Branch nine timea of ten he’s telling players what to do even when Nnanmdi was here he often got in Nnamdi’s face over a coverage. Branch is without a doubt an impact player……….period
August 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
I disagree with your definition of our FS, Priest.
I guess that means you are right, huh?
You’re right that he gets to guess where to go. A QB can help that along with look offs and pump fakes, wouldn’t you say.
I don’t know how you can claim to watch so much film but fail to acknowledge this big flaw in his game. The 4 times a game he whiffs on these plays = BIG PLAYS against our defense.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
tj,
Do us all a favor and shut your fk’n piehole.
thanks
Mista
August 30th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Last Sunday nite vs Saints…
on Defense: NO R.Seymour, C.Johnson, or J.Henderson. Also note, DVD will not be starting.
Saints = top 3 if not #1 Offense in NFL
on Offense: we looked good without DMac, Ford, Chaz, Murph, or Boss.
on Special Teams: Nick Miller returning kicks…nuff said.
Do we have some concerns on Defense? Yes
Is it cause for panic? Only if you’re a spineless sheep fan
Personally, I still expect this Team to do well.
Go RAIDERS!!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
You guys wear me out, WATCH the damn games and stop asssuming you know the Saints were using motions and 2 TE’s and and doing a lot of stuff to get us in bad matchups there were times when even Routt was on Graham.
LOrd help us!!!!LOL
August 30th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
MM34 makes big plays
Branch tackles the player after he makes 1
J Hill are you laughing at them yet?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
20.qodrn Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Conditioning seems to be a problem throughout the sports industry – baseball, football, etc. Suspect the cause is something the industry does throughout the sport, such as taping up everyone before the game, or the design of the pads, etc.
As an example, once upon at time, anyone who did lots of lifting at work was required to wear some king of velcro support for the lower back. Yes, the back felt much better with the belt after a long day. Short term injuries really went down…Then it happened. When these folks came down with a back injury, it was major due to the limitations caused by the belt. End of the belts.
Maybe too much conditioning is the culprit. Often conditioning leads to building up muscles unevenly.
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It’s all the supplements these guys use. Builds muscle but doesn’t build the frame. I think this has a lot to do with the concussions as well. Guy did seem to get hurt like this back in the old days. They were beer drinking meat and potato guys. Who were naturally big and strong. Think about putting a big block V8 in a ford pinto. It you don’t beef up the frame and the drive terrain something will fail.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
If you watch Branch nine timea of ten he’s telling players what to do even when Nnanmdi was here he often got in Nnamdi’s face over a coverage. Branch is without a doubt an impact player……….period
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Do you want to take this discussion to the film room, or are you just going to keep spitting out your opinion?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Leave.
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priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
You guys wear me out,
August 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
They even lined graham up out wide to get the matchups they wantedthe same wya we do with Reece.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Tjbwall Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Graham the TE killed the Raiders….blame that on MM34
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That would make sense, had Mitchell played in that game. LOL.
Tackles for the D on Sunday night vs. the Saints:
Defense T-A SCK INT FF
T. Branch 5-2 0.0 0 0
M. Huff 3-1 0.0 0 0
R. McClain 3-2 0.0 0 0
J. Porter 3-0 0.0 0 0
D. Van Dyke 3-1 0.0 0 0
D. Blackstock 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Boyd 2-0 0.0 0 0
S. Brown 2-1 0.0 0 0
C. Chekwa 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Cumbie 2-0 0.0 0 0
B. Davis 2-0 0.0 0 0
K. Wimbley 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Bullocks 1-0 0.0 0 0
C. Francis 1-0 0.0 0 0
B. Gbadyu 1-0 0.0 0 0
Q. Groves 1-0 0.0 0 0
W. McFadden 1-0 0.0 0 0
S. Moore 1-0 0.0 0 0
D. Bryant 0-1 0.5 0 0
L. Houston 0-1 0.5 0 0
S. Routt 0-1 0.0 0 0
August 30th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Jhill anyway you want it I’m game…..
August 30th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
You guys wear me out, WATCH the damn games and stop asssuming you know the Saints were using motions and 2 TE’s and and doing a lot of stuff to get us in bad matchups there were times when even Routt was on Graham.
LOrd help us!!!!LOL
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Branch was in 1 man deep when Routt covered Graham, both times he was late in coverage. The 1st time for a big gain and the 2nd time Routt had position
August 30th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
You guys wear me out, WATCH the damn games and stop asssuming you know
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Gladly!
I have it right here.
Where should we start?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
edshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Tjbwall Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Graham the TE killed the Raiders….blame that on MM34
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That would make sense, had Mitchell played in that game. LOL.
Tackles for the D on Sunday night vs. the Saints:
Defense T-A SCK INT FF
T. Branch 5-2 0.0 0 0
M. Huff 3-1 0.0 0 0
R. McClain 3-2 0.0 0 0
J. Porter 3-0 0.0 0 0
D. Van Dyke 3-1 0.0 0 0
D. Blackstock 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Boyd 2-0 0.0 0 0
S. Brown 2-1 0.0 0 0
C. Chekwa 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Cumbie 2-0 0.0 0 0
B. Davis 2-0 0.0 0 0
K. Wimbley 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Bullocks 1-0 0.0 0 0
C. Francis 1-0 0.0 0 0
B. Gbadyu 1-0 0.0 0 0
Q. Groves 1-0 0.0 0 0
W. McFadden 1-0 0.0 0 0
S. Moore 1-0 0.0 0 0
D. Bryant 0-1 0.5 0 0
L. Houston 0-1 0.5 0 0
S. Routt 0-1 0.0 0 0
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Branch tackled players after they made huge gains
WOOP D DOO
Kirk Morrison would have been a 3 time pro-bowler in this case
August 30th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Allrightee then …
Just fired up the DVR.
Let’s have at it Priest.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Tj that’s because they have a very smart QB who was looking him off if this were a reg season game I’m sure he would’ve studied Brees more and been a bit more prepared.
The OTHER TEAM GETS PAID TOOO!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Jhill is a liberal. Only liberals think they know everything and will never be happy until you see it their way. No point in arguing with morons.
Just make you look like one.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Redshirt – notice that DvD and Porter were among the leaders in tackles
I guess those 2 should be our starting corners
August 30th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
# Kirk Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
We thought our problem would be the offense. Now it looks like our problem may be the coach. But we really won’t know anything until the first game. The only thing that is for sure is that we have some damn fine running backs.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
2nd play of the game,
Branch is matched up with the TE and gets beat on a 14 yd route.
TE dropped the ball.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Priesttj that is the problem…Branch gets looked off and pumped entirely too much
This is how big plays happen
August 30th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
big ted – put me down for DHB please. thanks
August 30th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
You guys Brees is no joke when it comes to throwing his guys open he is as smart as they come. He’s going to win a lot of times he’s not a perennial probowler because he’s stupid. That was as sophisticated a pass offense as you’ll see they’ve been together for years and it shows………..period
August 30th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
39.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
For all those who consistently blast Mr D for giving Routt the money, now do you see why??
Last year Routt covered most #1’s for opposing teams and people didn’t notice because no one threw at Nnamdi so most of time no one knew WHO he was covering.
Also as far as our secondary is concerned the WR’s and TE for Drew Brees made some fantastic catches more than Brees beating coverage those guys just made a ton of plays because some of those passess should’ve been picks. If we see him again I think they will be.
Also the Dline didn’t only miss Big Sey but TK barely played we were always in nickle with Houston and Bryant at the DT’s I only saw TK in on the first drive and some short yardage.
As much Hue is saying he wants to win these preseason games he’s not playing the players he CAN WIN them with. So I think Hue is trying to under sell and over deliver only it’s not working the way he would like. If he wanted to win no way Ford and DMC dit out these games when they are healthy. Seymour is healthy yet he didn’t play. All of a sudden CJ is practicing was he healthy too?
Hue jackson has soem Sly Fox in him he’s playing possum IMO because I think not only could CJ have played but so could Lito Sheppard. He’s not so much trying to win that he going to show his hand. He’s trying to win with what he’s willing to show.
I was able to see the game last night and TJ is sick with it. He has unlimited potential you don’t get your first carry and lay down funk like that unless you have some stuff that is way beyond what people can have in mind. His makumiss is second to none we are going to have a ton of fun watching that kid do the Boogaloo.
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No.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
“No point in arguing with morons.
Just make you look like one.”
He says this as he is looking in the mirror.
Why bring politics into a perfectly good football debate?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Tjbwall Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Redshirt – notice that DvD and Porter were among the leaders in tackles
I guess those 2 should be our starting corners
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Only posted that in response to your statement about it being Mike Mitchell’s fault that Graham tore up the secondary. Mike Mitchell didn’t play Sunday night. You’re either an idiot or you were being sarcastic. Either way, I’m not involved in the debate of who is better, Branch or MM. Leave me outta it.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I agree completely, J.
Branch has all the tools but doesn’t see the play develop in advance. He reacts late all the time and is easily looked off. He’s good in the box, but even then he whiffs when being too aggressive.
Then he’s not so aggressive in coverage, where he should be laying the wood as the ball arrives or immediately after.
Branch just doesn’t seem to play smart.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Son every safety gets looked off by Drew Brees he doesn’t go to the probowl every year because he doesn’t know how to work a safety. You saw one of the best passing offenses the game has to offer……………RELAX
August 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
I was able to see the game last night and TJ is sick with it. He has unlimited potential you don’t get your first carry and lay down funk like that unless you have some stuff that is way beyond what people can have in mind. His makumiss is second to none we are going to have a ton of fun watching that kid do the Boogaloo.
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Agree… with this comment 100%…
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
” That was as sophisticated a pass offense as you’ll see they’ve been together for years and it shows………..period”
If you want to be the best you have to beat the best stop making excuses!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
well my surprise standout for the season, Mr. Lammak has been cut
my call on the MNF will stand:
Raiders 3 – Denver 34
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
It looked like Chaz just got routinely tackled and he was injured. Is he worth a roster spot over say Tonga? Another less injury prone receiver like Bodiford or NMiller? an extra LB like B Davis? Or is does he have too much potential to let go…
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Jhill is a liberal. Only liberals think they know everything and will never be happy until you see it their way. No point in arguing with morons.
Just make you look like one.
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LOL, conservatives aren’t stubborn, right?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
We weren’t in the top 10 pass defenses for nothing let it get better it’s still preseason. It may take a few games for these guys to settle down they just lost one of the best corners in the entire league…………relax
August 30th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
171.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Jhill Branch is not a great cover safety is true we all see that but to insenuate that he is not an impact player is way way way off. Huff was resigned for his verstility the way they will use him this year you’ll see what I mean. Mike Mitchell is a very good safety as well he can cover much better than Branch as can Huff but Branch is a natural FS.
What you guys don’t see in these coverages is that we play our safeties interchangeable there is no FS there is no SS we do what night be termed as matchup coverage and sometimes we get schemed and we get beat. But as far as SS FS forget that concept I’ve been trying to figure it out all preseason and the truth is there is neither we’re just matching up and playing. Because on one play Branch is in the box the next play he’s single high so to be honest I can’t figure out what position he plays. Huff has played as much corner as he has safety.
So to argue about this stuff is MUTE just watch how they play and you’ll see I’m right Huff was playing the slot most of the game vs NO.
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Listen up, Father Pride & Poise, it’s MOOT, not MUTE. MOOT is a legal term. MUTE is what you’ll be rendered when old man Davis let’s us all down again this year.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
4th play of the game, Branch has the right side of the field in a zone responsibilty over the top. Is in NO position to help DVD, who you would think he’d have his attention focused on.
Instead of paying attention to the receivers in his area, he is looking in the backfield at the QB the entire time. WR slips right into his zone and makes the catch.
Zero awareness!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
“Drew Brees he doesn’t go to the probowl every year because he doesn’t know how to work a safety.”
He got beat by the Seahawks last year!
Stop making excuses!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
213.Silverandblack666 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
“No point in arguing with morons.
Just make you look like one.”
He says this as he is looking in the mirror.
Why bring politics into a perfectly good football debate?
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Are you a Liberal?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
You guys wear me out, WATCH the damn games and stop asssuming you know the Saints were using motions and 2 TE’s and and doing a lot of stuff to get us in bad matchups there were times when even Routt was on Graham.
LOrd help us!!!!LOL
*********000000000000000 help for the RAIDERS
August 30th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Politics, oy!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
The piss a$$ Seahawks beat them in the 1st round of the playoffs.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
” That was as sophisticated a pass offense as you’ll see they’ve been together for years and it shows………..period”
If you want to be the best you have to beat the best stop making excuses!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
It seems with game film to show and excellent logic I cannot pursuade the flaws of Tyvon Branch. Best wishes to MM34 that he may get the chance to show and blow this DHB on defense out of the water.
With that in mind…guys DHB should play SS hes faster than Tyvon Branch??
August 30th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
I hate all politicians liberal and conservative I would fire everyone of them if I could.
Both side poster and blame each other instead of solving our problems. Meanwhile we all pay!
I am sorry but I don’t believe in the current system both side waste money!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Sorry Redshirt. Just seems like everyone in here that goes totally nuts when someone doesn’t see things their way in here is a Lib. Just testing my theory.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Libtards dont like talking politics much these days. Pres purp lips took all the wind out of their sails with his marxist/socialist policies that fail 100% of the time they are tried.
Ask Greece, Italy, UK, and Spain.
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# redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Politics, oy!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
WE ARE ALL MISERABLE TROLLS!!!!
WE ARE ALL MISERABLE TROLLS!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Priest,
Am I watching film by myself, or are you going to get in on this?
Branch is part of the problem … PERIOD!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
MistaBrown see post 225
August 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
J Hill im out bruh
DEUCES
NO MORE EXCUSES RAIDERFANS
THE WEAK ARE THE WEAK
#NOMORESCHOLARSHIPSPLZ
August 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Don
That list is not “kept” by anyone. Dprick the troll started it and he changes it all the time to suit his whim. I am sorta proud that I made the list : )
You may not have known that last night.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
We weren’t in the top 10 pass defenses for nothing let it get better it’s still preseason. It may take a few games for these guys to settle down they just lost one of the best corners in the entire league…………relax
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I dunno man. I think the reason we were 2nd in pass defense last season has more to do with the fact that our run defense was 29th in the league. And our run defense probably would have been worse if our offense didn’t score as many points as they did and more teams didn’t have to throw to catch up. Point is, our run D was so bad teams didn’t have to pass.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
J Hill
You ever played safty?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Libtards dont like talking politics much these days. Pres purp lips took all the wind out of their sails with his marxist/socialist policies that fail 100% of the time they are tried.
Ask Greece, Italy, UK, and Spain.
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Yeah, I could really care less dude. They are corrupt on both sides.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
The piss a$$ Seahawks beat them in the 1st round of the playoffs.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
” That was as sophisticated a pass offense as you’ll see they’ve been together for years and it shows………..period”
If you want to be the best you have to beat the best stop making excuses!
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True… 41-36… in a shootout.
Brees still tore up their secondary.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Thanks for the lesson in grammar when I’m fatigued I have a hard time typing. I’m not very clerical so thanks!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
yeah yeah yeah we were good because we were bad I get it………….Lord have mercy!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
08/30/2011
Placed OL Alan Pelc and LB Travis Goethel on Injured Reserve
Waived FB Bryson Kelly, OL Ben Lamaak, WR Damola Adeniji, WR Steve Goulet, S Josh Bullocks, DT Derrick Hill and waived/injured Lou Eliades
August 30th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Plunk
No worries. ruprick is lame. He’s MR and many others. Thought I know who he was at one point. A 49er fan i know and use to piss off all the time. His writing gave him away. Still think it could be him. If i find out for sure. I would be happy to give out his address.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Raiders were a good pass defense when Tyvon Branch wasn’t there
the run sets up the pass, and if you can run why pass at all?
Branch gives us something don’t get me wrong,but with the opportunity Mitchell gives us something Branch doesn’t have
August 30th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
was there
August 30th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
I cent spiel er tipe
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Clerical?
You are illiterate….period
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# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Thanks for the lesson in grammar when I’m fatigued I have a hard time typing. I’m not very clerical so thanks!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog”
cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
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Everyone else made it.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Mr. Goulet blocked a punt in preseason, that’s more than a thousand other players have accomplished.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
yeah yeah yeah we were good because we were bad I get it………….Lord have mercy!!
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Just saying. Hey, the Chargers were #1 in rush D and #4 in pass D and still didn’t make the playoffs last year. Who the fvck knows.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Jhill please man I didn’t say he wasn’t part of the problem. Listen to what I’m saying ………..all players have strengths and weaknesses there are no perfect players or not many they key to playing defense is put players in position to utilize their strengths. A QB like Drew Brees will slice up the best safeties when he’s on he’s extremely hard to stop no matter how great your secondary is. That team has been together for 5 years they went to a SB and won it for a reason. To expect a secondary thrown together to stop that offense is ridiculous………….that is MY POINT.
Take the butt whuppin and move on man and get better. We were missing a starting corner and playing a rookie what the hell do you expect???
Come on man please let’s deal in reality it’s preseason thye’re trying to put the defense together now and to go against an experienced team like NO is NOT EASY.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Drew Brees was not the reason the Saints lost to the Seahawks in the playoffs last year. Elizabeth’s brother-in-law was.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Tjbwall Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
J Hill im out bruh
DEUCES
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Me too mayne.
DEUCES!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
BEAST MODE
August 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
We got Tyvon Branch in the 4th rnd for a reason but to say he’s not an impact player at this point is to overlook a whole lot that he does well.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Perfect example of a troll.
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Seymour Bush Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog”
cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
August 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
BEAST MODE thumped the Saints in the Wildcard game.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Hue started DVD against Brees knowing he was going to get chopped up. So he can watch film and learn. The entire defence will get better because of who they played.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
259.
Yeah….But it was still funny.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog”
cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
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Everyone else made it.
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LMAO!
Mista was brought back for the semi pro vet minimum.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Hue started DVD against Brees knowing he was going to get chopped up. So he can watch film and learn. The entire defence will get better because of who they played.
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Agreed ++
August 30th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Jhill please man I didn’t say he wasn’t part of the problem. Listen to what I’m saying
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Would have rather watched the film instead of listening to you or you listening to me.
It’s right there on the film mayne.
We can even go back to last years games.
VY shredded Branch, so let’s not act like it’s just the Brees’ of the world.
I’ll check back in this evening.
Need to hollar at Armond anyway to see who he benches at DE to get his speed demon DE.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Priesttj i asked you what Branch does that MM34 can’t do and you responded
“Branch isnt injury prone”
&
“Branch is our starting safety”
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When are you going to give me some good reasoning
to why i should beleive your opinion
August 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
post # 261 thanks for the help…..
That will make this team see on film what they have to do to get better it’s in the embryonic stages let the process play out.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
On the bright side, cornerback Chris Johnson and defensive tackle John Henderson returned to practice after lenghty absences. Johnson was doing everything asked of the other defensive backs before media access ended at 11:45 a.m. He underwent surgery for an undisclosed injury about 10 days ago.
Henderson has been bothered by a sore foot for part of training camp. He is being counted upon to be a key part of Oakland’s defensive line rotation.
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YEAH !!!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
J Hill
Have you ever played football? Other then in your back yard?
August 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Good post!
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# DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Hue started DVD against Brees knowing he was going to get chopped up. So he can watch film and learn. The entire defence will get better because of who they played.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Peter King picked the Steeler – Packer SB last year before the season started.
It does not mean anything but he is picking the Falcons – Discharge this year
Pete is about to meet a monkey wrench named the Oakland Raiders
August 30th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
David Binn, a long snapper who has played with the San Diego Chargers for longer than any player in franchise history, is out of a job.
The Chargers announced today that they have released Binn after 17 seasons with the team.
-PFT
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Dont let BSJ catch wind of this!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
My final 53:
J.Campbell
K.Boller
T.Edwards (replaced by Pryor after 5-game suspension)
D.McFadden
M.Bush
T.Jones
R.Cartwright
M.Reece
M.Tonga
L.Murphy
D.Heyward-Bey
J.Ford
D.Moore
D.Hagan
C.Schilens
K.Boss
B.Myers
D.Ausberry
J.Barksdale
J.Veldheer
K.Barnes
B.Campbell
C.Carlisle
D.Loper
S.Wisniewski
S.Satele
S.Heyer
D.Bryant
T.Kelly
J.Henderson
M.Shaughnessy
R.Seymour
T.Scott
J.Moss
L.Houston
R.McClain
K.Wimbley
S.Williams
Q.Groves
D.Blackstock
S.Routt
C.Johnson
S.Moore
D.Van Dyke
J.Ware
L.Sheppard
M.Huff
T.Branch
M.Mitchell
S.Brown
S.Janikowski
S.Lechler
J.Condo
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Great job at picking who stays. I agree on everything except T. Edwards. I say they keep 4 QB and drop Tonga. If they need a backup FB they can use Cartwright or a Refrigerator Perry type lineman like Barnes or Houston. Otherwise god job.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@CorkOnTheNFL
Steve Corkran
Linebackers Sam Williams and Chris Francis also out of practice.
3 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
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They need to get some more help at linebacker.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
JB Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Great job at picking who stays. I agree on everything except T. Edwards. I say they keep 4 QB and drop Tonga. If they need a backup FB they can use Cartwright or a Refrigerator Perry type lineman like Barnes or Houston. Otherwise god job.
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Yeah, I was rooting for Edwards early on, but he’s looked pretty bad so far. It would be interesting to see how he does with the starting offense, but that is never going to happen.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog”
cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
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Everyone else made it.
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LMAO!
Mista was brought back for the semi pro vet minimum.
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True, he was brought back for the league minimum. But then waived again. Just to torture him.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog”
cuts are in -
Seymour Bush: Waived
Dvrick: Injured Reserve
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
Kell: traded for an Al Davis autographed ballcap
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sweet !!!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Clerical?
You are illiterate….period
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we know we know your all for going to war for dibbs on the 2nd largest oil reserve regardless of how many of your beloved american soldiers are killer or commit suicide because of the trauma. Or you believe in trickle down economics even though you’re poor and has never worked but yet you wanna try it again. Or you think a rep pres will improve economy when the last rep pres to do so was George H Bush and he did so by increasing tax on the wealthy! Or putting tax levels back to Clinton era would hurt job growth yet they were in place for 8 years with George W and how many jobs were created?
no more political talk for me, had to do it
August 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
SeymourGlen, why dont you jump on one of your aliases and pretend you dont know each other.
Grownups are talking football.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
i didn’t respond but i will branch’s strength are his aggressiveness and instincts. does he look in the backfield a bit much… yes we suck vs the run he has to. now as he learns more and more the same way huff did you’ll see more of his natural instincts come to the fore.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Linebackers Sam Williams and Chris Francis also out of practice -Steve Corkran
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Seriously?
so the starters are Wimbley-McClain-Groves and the backups are Blackstock-Davis-Gbadyu ???
Puke!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
mm34 imo plays the pass as far as man much better than branch. we missed mm34 in that game so we have several safeties with different strengths and weaknesses which is how you biuld a team.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Priesttj needs to restructure his deal to make room for Jhill & JFB
now both highest paid at their respective positions
August 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
@VittorioTafur
Vittorio Tafur
RB Taiwan Jones: “Antioch is #Raiders country now. There used be a lot of 49ers fans there, even in my family, but they’re converted now.”
4 minutes ago via web
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Haha, hell yeah!
August 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
SeymourGlen, why dont you jump on one of your aliases and pretend you dont know each other.
Grownups are talking football.
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Uh Oh…sounds like he is about to unfurl his secret weapon: the white flag.
August 30th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Branch tackled players after they made huge gains
WOOP D DOO
Kirk Morrison would have been a 3 time pro-bowler in this case
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how dare you!
August 30th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
OAKLAND FINDS A GEM IN TAIWAN JONES
The rookie running back could play a significant role for the Raiders this season.
-Wes Bunting
There were a number of questions surrounding former Eastern Washington standout Taiwan Jones when he declared early for the 2011 NFL draft.
1. With a playing weight during the 2010 season of around 170-pounds, does he have the physical make-up to hold his own in the NFL?
2. Will he check out medically, coming off a fractured left foot that forced him to miss the final game of his junior season?
3. Could he add more girth/size to his frame and still maintain the type of dynamic straight-line speed that made him such an intriguing prospect?
Talking to scouts leading up to the NFL draft there were two trains of thought concerning Jones as an NFL running back. The first was that there simply aren’t many productive backs at the NFL level that measure in a six feet tall and play under 200-pounds.
The second was that this guy possessed the talent needed to become a dynamic sub-package type option who could create big plays for an offense when you get him in space.
And after watching him in his first NFL action Sunday night, he looks to be the latter of those two opinions. Jones was quick to press the hole, displayed good patience allowing blocks to set up and then accelerated very quickly into the open field. He displayed the type of confidence in his first step where he didn’t simply need to outrun defenders to daylight in order to gain yardage. As he exhibited the type of vision/feel to calmly pick his way through traffic before exploding away from defenders and outpacing angles into the second level.
And once he got into the open field he showcased the type of straight-line speed/second gear to be the type of big play threat the Raiders must have envisioned when they drafted him in April.
Now, he’s still is a thinner back –despite his effort to get into the 190-195-pound range– who possesses a narrow frame and is going to struggle to break tackles inside and hold his own in blitz pick-up. However, the Raiders have a back who can be dynamic in space both on perimeter runs and catching the football out of the backfield.
Jones should be a consistent part of the Raiders offense even as a rookie. In my view, he’s an ideal situational type back because of his ability to flip the field and be playmaker anytime he gets his hands on the football even if only given limited touches throughout a game.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Oakland-finds-a-gem-in-Taiwan-Jones.html
August 30th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RRS he’s a safety not a LB…………..whew!!
August 30th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
CODE BLACK
August 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Aaron Maybin on the bubble in New York. Bring this cat in for a look-see. We need depth on the bench.
August 30th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
276.Seymour Bush Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
The First Round of the “Inside the Oakland Raiders Blog”
cuts are in:
Mistabrown: Waived
Dvrick: Cut
MR: Placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list
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Everyone else made it.
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LMAO!
Mista was brought back for the semi pro vet minimum.
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True, he was brought back for the league minimum. But then waived again. Just to torture him.
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Personally I’d sign Mista to a multi-year contract and a big time signing bonus
August 30th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
@MattBowen41
Matt Bowen
NFP: Like a ton of NFL ‘bubble’ players, #Jets Aaron Maybin needs to show up in a big way on Thursday to make the cut. bit.ly/mUMj72
13 minutes ago via web
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/can-Maybin-do-enough-to-impress-Rex-vs-Eagles.html
August 30th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
290.redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Aaron Maybin on the bubble in New York. Bring this cat in for a look-see. We need depth on the bench.
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LOL we do need depth but then why do we need Maybin?
August 30th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Method:
Somebody’s got to hold the towels with Williams and Francis out.
August 30th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
redshirt Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Aaron Maybin on the bubble in New York. Bring this cat in for a look-see. We need depth on the bench.
we need a backup MLB. I guess SWilliams is a good special teamer but not comfortable with him at MLB if Romac goes down
August 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Now that I have seen my man TJ I can’t wait to see Pryor and then I’m ready for the LIVE bullets. I cannot wait to see DMC back in action with Ford and Bush and all the new toys.
I now think Hue jackson wants to launch a Raid on Denver and just put on a show I just hope he knows what he’s doing and can get it done.
August 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
137.J Hill Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
126.priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Anytime you guys disagree with me I know I’m right….LOL
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LOL!
I think you just opened the door for a slew of posts headed your way.
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Oh boy….now I know the Ripple has been cracked open
August 30th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Armond is right about this Sterling Moore kid he is legit.
December 11th, 2011 at 1:22 am
denled…
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December 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
I agree with you 100% Glenis….
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January 1st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
amberen and weight loss…
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January 18th, 2012 at 6:25 am
постельное белье, купить постельное белье, одеяло, одеяла, подушка, подушки, плед, пледы, покрывало, покрывала…
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January 24th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Chicago cutlery…
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February 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 am
Fuzzy Threads, LLC “All your pet needs” /”Get your fuzz on!”…
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April 5th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Dinosaur Games…
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