The Chaz Schilens debate a hot topic
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, September 1st, 2011 at 12:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Few Raiders player engender as much passionate and spirited debate as fourth-year wide receiver Chaz Schilens.
For whatever reason, fans have a strong take, one way or the other, on whether the Raiders should remain patient with Schilens or cut ties in light of his latest injury.
There doesn’t seem to be any gray area. It wasn’t always that way.
The love for Schilens was universal in 2008, when he went from a seventh-round draft pick out of San Diego State to a member of the Raiders 53-man roster.
He caught 15 passes for 226 yards and two touchdowns his rookie season. Most impressive, he appeared in all 16 games. Greatness seemed on the horizon.
Then came the injuries, something that dogged him during his collegiate career, as well.
During training camp in 2009, Schilens broke a bone in his foot during a joint scrimmage against the 49ers in Napa. The injury was severe enough to require surgery.
Schilens, 6-feet-4 and 225 pounds, missed the first eight games in 2009 while rehabilitating. He started the final eight games and recorded 29 receptions for 365 yards and two touchdowns.
Fans were encouraged by his performance, especially an eight-catch, 99-yard showing against the Baltimore Ravens in the season finale at the Coliseum.
Surely, Schilens’ career would take full flight in his third season. Again, injuries surfaced.
Schilens’ foot still bothered him, so he underwent a second surgery. In training camp, he favored the foot, which put undue stress on his knee. Suddenly, both posed issues for Schilens to overcome.
He didn’t make it on to the field for a regular-season game until the 12th game. He caught five passes for 40 yards and one touchdown in five games.
Schilens reported to Napa this year at full strength and made it through the first dozen or so practices without any lingering effects from the foot and knee issues. Once again, everything seemed right with Schilens.
Then came Oakland’s first exhibition game, against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 11. Schilens limped off the field after an end around and hasn’t practiced or played in a game ever since.
During that time, the Raiders discovered that they have two consistent playmakers in veteran Derek Hagan and rookie Denarius Moore. Soon, coach Hue Jackson will have to decide whether it’s worth riding it out with Schilens or if it’s time to part ways.
The consensus among fans seems to be that the Raiders can’t count upon Schilens, and it’s time to move on.
It says here that the Raiders are doing the right thing in being patient with Schilens and waiting for him to get to the point where he can be a regular contributor, if not a No. 1 receiver.
There are those with the Raiders who feel as if Schilens is the team’s most-gifted and versatile wide receiver. They point to his rare combination of size, speed, strength and, yes, toughness.
They also point out that the Raiders don’t have a bonafide No. 1 wide receiver, and Schilens is their best bet as of now.
Schilens worked out with a trainer and on his own at practice Wednesday. It’s unlikely he will play Friday night, but Schilens will be a hot topic when Jackson sits down to make the final roster cuts Saturday.
The smart money says, the Raiders keep Schilens, give him all the time he needs to get healthy and then reap the dividends down the road, even if it is later rather than sooner.
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September 1st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4367575
September 1st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Oops #1
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#2
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#3
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HA HA HA #4
September 1st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
HA HA HA #5
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HA HA HA #6
September 1st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Fk Chaz Im not even going to read this.
September 1st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
#7-10 I am a G!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Chaz who?
September 1st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Chaz who?
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Isn’t that Sonny Bono’s daughter who had the sax change?
September 1st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
During that time, the Raiders discovered that they have two consistent playmakers in veteran Derek Hagan and rookie Denarius Moore. Soon, coach Hue Jackson will have to decide whether it’s worth riding it out with Schilens or if it’s time to part ways.
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Man I been sayin this for days, where are ya tj, you hearin that? See, i aint the only one who isn’t smokin something. No mention of DHB. And Corkran is ther everyday too and he can see who is makin plays in practice and in the games. It has to be Moore and Hagan. Trust me…………….period
September 1st, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Derek Hagan Best WR on the Team right now!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 12:54 pm
ROG,
what are you basing this love affair with Mayo Tonga on anyways?
his accomplishments at Aragon High School in San Mateo?
The guy played for BYU as Harvey Unga’s lead blocker and wasn’t even drafted. 30+ teams passed 7 times. the Raiders placed him on the practice squad where 30+ teams could have signed him to their active roster (again) and passed.
Unga himself is probably heading for the Bears practice squad … whenever he decides to rejoin the team (left for “personal reasons” and Chicago gets a roster exemption for him)
September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Don’t like it but no doubt DHB starts on day one!
I bet you the $23.5 mill guaranteed of the $38.25 that he starts.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4367575
This may turn out to be the second worse rookie signing in the last 10 years. Guess who is #1.
September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
What have you done for me lately Chaz!
September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Libbey Glass Schilens. He will have a great game 15 and 16 just in time for a contract renewal.
September 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
“If DHB starts week 1 Hue will basically have lost the team.”
I have been saying this for a few weeks now.
It will be a true test of Hue’s sack and everyone on the team will know exactly what is going on if DHB starts.
September 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Never understood why anybody gets all stupid over Chaz. 7th rounder, rookie contract, as long as there’s nobody worth taking his roster spot (Nick Miller) how does keeping him hurt the team?
September 1st, 2011 at 12:58 pm
The man made of glass (Chaz) get healthy!… We need all the help we can get!
September 1st, 2011 at 12:59 pm
With Hagan on the roster, at least the Raiders aren’t dependent of Schillens, this year. He’s a good WR when healthy, good depth or starter. Not paying him much.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:00 pm
This may turn out to be the second worse rookie signing in the last 10 years. Guess who is #1.
Vernon Gholston?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
The smart money says, the Raiders keep Schilens, give him all the time he needs to get healthy and then reap the dividends down the road, even if it is later rather than sooner.
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sweet
good work Steve. cut white webster!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
NEW!~ 09-01-11: “Unchecked and largely unnoticed, the Oakland Hybrid Experiment continues into the Secondary, blurring the line between the two traditional positions and begging the question…”
DB or not DB?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 1st, 2011 at 1:05 pm
at least the Raiders aren’t dependent of Schillens, this year. He’s a good WR when healthy, good depth or starter. Not paying him much.
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Agreed with Kell!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Sorry, ganked it right off of facebook. I like the idea of hybrid Safety CBs but not sure if its going to work if we do it alot in the regs.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:07 pm
I like Schilens and he is a the epitome of Raiders H/W/S/ he ran a sub 4.4 me thinks…
Really hope he’s halthy but like Steve alluded to, with the emergence of some comeption finally the waiting may be over…
September 1st, 2011 at 1:08 pm
If the grin reaper (Al Davis) is being patient with dhb why not with Chaz, atleast chaz is slightly tipping the triple beam with cash while dhp is overloading the truck scale!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Louis Murphy
Jacoby Ford
D-Moore
Derrick Hagan
DHB
Why are we talking about Chaz Schilens? I already released him on Madden 12.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:15 pm
September 1st, 2011 at 1:17 pm
I’m pretty sure that DHB has restructured his contract multiple times now and he’s not costing us that much anymore.
Hagan
Ford
Moore
Chaz
Murphy
DHB
September 1st, 2011 at 1:17 pm
This topic shouldn’t even cause a debate …
the Top 5 WR’s are DHB, Murphy, Ford, Moore & Hagan
who cares if you pay your 6th WR less than 800k when he plays like a #1 WR every time he steps on the football field?
Who would you rather keep as a 6th WR that will produce more than Chaz?
Miller, Bodiford, McGee? child please!
Mr. Glass has more value in 3 football games than those clowns do in 16 – Print That.
Fax it to Team Davis
September 1st, 2011 at 1:18 pm
727.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 12:36 pm
why do you call him ROG ?
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Brown,
his old (banned) nickname was Return of Goofyness or something like that and every time we used to type “br1en” on the blog, that comment would show up as awaiting moderation
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Excuse me Podunk Express….goofyness? Godliness buddy and you know better
September 1st, 2011 at 1:18 pm
And RRS….your 30 teams not getting Tonga holds no water here since most FBs arent drafted….try again
September 1st, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Chaz Schilens? I already released him on Madden 12.
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Rick,
so as a result you went 4-12 ?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Just like your love affair with TO…who is not and never will be a Raider lol
September 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
If the choice is between Nick Miller and Chaz, we go with Chaz. We’ve seen what they both can do…and Chaz has a higher upside AS A WR (we’ve got better than adequate kick returners…maybe the best in the League). What Chaz brings as a WR is exactly what we’ve been needing for years. If he can get healthy for more than 6 games at a pop, he’ll pay off big-time. And his price is right.
HOWEVER…if he’s not healthy enough to play the regular season opener, I don’t think he’ll ever be healthy for more than a few games at a time in his career. Once or twice is bad luck…time after time after time, starting in college, is a bad trend. Sad for him, and unfortunate for our team.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What’s the best section to sit in at O.co Coliseum? I’ve never been to a home game, but I’ve been to plenty of away games.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
most FBs arent drafted
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ROG,
Jon Ritchie was a 3rd rounder
Mike Alstott went in Round 2!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Zack Crocket!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:22 pm
The 200 sideline sections are my preference.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Here’s the two sides to it right now. If we go with only 5 WRs we can keep one of those extra worthless DBs who might one day turn into something. If that extra DB they keep is Sterling Moore (as he was the most consistant contributor aside from our starters thus far) and would’ve cut him earlier then I say it’s a good move to cut him.
If it just means to keep him on the 6 WR roster instead of Nick Miller or something probably not. I mean at this point N. Miller is probably not returning punts (D. Moore probably is).
Give Chaz this last chance if he looks like he’s almost ready to be back on the field, and if he gets hurt again, or has “setbacks” you can always give him an injury settlement, cut him and sign back Nick
September 1st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Corkran – You forgot to mention that he was looking like a star #1 receiver in camp before the broken foot.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Thanks Dave, I can fly from Wichita KS to the West Coast round trip for $230! I think I’m coming to a game this year.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:24 pm
i will be in KC for the 3rd straight year! christmas eve baby!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
39.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
most FBs arent drafted
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ROG,
Jon Ritchie was a 3rd rounder
Mike Alstott went in Round 2!
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Ever see the word MOST? thanks lol
September 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Raiderjhawk
What’s the best section to sit in at O.co Coliseum? I’ve never been to a home game, but I’ve been to plenty of away games.
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sect.116 row 1
September 1st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I got tired of going to KC J, I have Sunday ticket now for the 4th year. Once upon a time I used to make the 3 hour drive every year. Only had once scuffle and then I broke the H out so I didn’t get mobbed by Chefs fans.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
aaawwwwwww Hans Britz I tole you a million times I don’t have any weapons of mass destruction!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Nuts, is that the black hole? Are tickets usually available there? If I’m coming I’m going all out!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
47.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
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Impeccable credentials in the bed & breakfast industry.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Alright thanks for nothing fukers.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Jhawk, I believe 116 is on the 20 yard line on the Raiders sideline. Don’t quote me, though. Black Hole is 104-109 I think…
I sit in 130 which is across from the Black Hole…But still…20 yard line is still good seats!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:37 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Derek Hagan Best WR on the Team right now!!!!!
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No way man…JFORD is that guy, DMOORE is a close second…
September 1st, 2011 at 1:37 pm
No, that’s field level right behind the raiders bench next to the tunnel where all the players come out. Go on stub hub cuz usually those tickets are held by season ticket holders. I’ve sat althoughout the statium and that section is the best
September 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
50 yard line!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Comment From KCSam
What is your relationship like with Al Davis? Do you speak with him often?
3:51
Tommy Kelly: No, I don’t speak with him often, but he’s the head man. He runs things. Coach Davis. My fault.
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HE RUNS THINGS, I believe he said, no?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What’s the best section to sit in at O.co Coliseum? I’ve never been to a home game, but I’ve been to plenty of away games.
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I sit in Section 240 – the East-Club seats. I’m on the 30 yd line. Rows 11-15 are safely under the overhang so you won’t get wet if raining. The West side is the home team side.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RRS,,,
Me go 4-12 on Madden? Impossible
September 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Fools Gold mixed into a hot debate….
Hopefully he can play, not counting on it…
September 1st, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Hue’s already mad at Al. That’s what he was mad about yesterday. Anyone who knows this football team knows this.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:41 pm
cockran I have a take…How come you didnt let some of the REAL q’s go through for tommy kelly????
Who his favorite rapper means nothing….
Bring back jerry…
September 1st, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Gotcha! i only walked around that stadium once, and I was pretty darn drunk in doing so…lol
September 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
47.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
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yea man we are gonna go 0-16 this year because of our horrible pre-season! thats what every team does every year they do bad in the pre-season right kool kell? they always go 0-16 right?
you really should stop posting things that dont mean anything.. that would be like me constantly posting something like: the raiders logo has a pirste in it and a shield around it, so we are definitely going 0-16 this year based on that fact alone!
seriously kk, all you do around here is pi$$ people off by saying really really stupid stuff..
September 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
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The Raiders Coaching Reclamation projects of the coaches of Oakland Past don’t tend to turn out well…or at least the big elephant in the room of Art Shell & team sticks to mind….
September 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
The NATION asked a lot of good questions, yet you only let kelly filed the softballs.
Lousy job cockran….bush league…
September 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Thec
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I think our offense should be even more explosive than last year and our defense a step back.
Now, all-in-all that could mean more wins or more losses. I don’t think that our defense is as bad as it appears in pre-season. I think our defensive depth is HORRIBLE and thus our 2nd and 3rd stringers are getting mowed over…and if anyone goes down in the back 7 (LBs/Secondary) then we’re in trouble as evidenced by CJ going down and DVD giving up a reception on virtually every play going his way.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I dont think Bresnehan was brought in to be the DC intitially..He was hired at first without position..
But they couldnt get whoever they wanted and he was the fall back..
September 1st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
hwnrdr Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Jhawk, I believe 116 is on the 20 yard line on the Raiders sideline. Don’t quote me, though. Black Hole is 104-109 I think…
I sit in 130 which is across from the Black Hole…But still…20 yard line is still good seats!
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Sect. 116 is almost on the 50 yard line. Not sure there are a lot of available seats there. Would not suggest row 1 unless you want to look at the back of a lot of heads. You won’t see the field of play all that well being so low.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Thec
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
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Head scratcher indeed Bruh…the consensus is that he is lousy…If you watched the last game when they put the cam on him he looked like a deer in headlights…
not a good sign…
September 1st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
kool kell,
i gotta here your win/loss prediction for us this year.. so lets hear it!
since you know everything and all, what is your prediction?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Even if Derek Hagan doesn’t start…he’ll be targeted plenty on Monday night. HueJax knows how to play the match-up game, and he knows which players on his team can take advantage of their defender/s. Let DHB take those double-teams…leaving the other weapons free to get the ball.
Let’s see how other teams cover JFord, Hagan, Murph, DMoore, and yes, Chaz one-on-one. And…nobody can cover either DMC or MBush (or Taiwan?) coming out of the backfield.
We scored plenty of points last year, and there’s no reason we can’t score plenty this year. With work and a little luck even, the Defense will make it so we don’t NEED to score so many this year. But it sure would be nice!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Just like your love affair with TO…who is not and never will be a Raider
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ROG,
maybe not – but if DHB is still on scholarship, Chaz isn’t healthy & Murphy/Ford are “nicked” I’ll sign Terrell Owens over giving a job to Nick Miller or one of the other scrubs.
gotta give Al Davis credit. Derek Hagan was a good find
jury still out on Denny Moore
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
As we race up and down the field on everyones D, and because of our ability to score at will, we will meet the objective and outscore our opponents on the regular.
13-3
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
kk,
you are an old fool..
September 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
“I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?”
Couldn’t get the guys he wanted so he settled.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Does the truth, hurt, J-Raider?
29th against the run in 2010.
No sign of improvement so far this preseason and, more curiously, no personnel changes designed to address it.
Nobody on here is drawing a direct correlation between preseason and going 0-16–who said that? Can you cite the quote?
If you look at this preseason and refuse to see red flags, you’re entitled to your rose colored glasses. If you think (see: Priesttj, TerrapinRaider) the preseason doesn’t signal ANYTHING about the team’s potential you’re off your nut. So save it. Please.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Let’s see how other teams cover JFord
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You have to roll coverage eveytime…
No one in the NFL can cover him 1 on 1…Just not possible
September 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
J-Raider
This defense really has me worried, and I don’t know if Campbell & Co can overcome it.
I predict between 6-9 wins. Tops. Ok?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
Gotcha! i only walked around that stadium once, and I was pretty darn drunk in doing so…lol
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Comedy. If it wasn’t for my lady taking pictures I wouldnt remember half my experiences their! That’s what happens when I tailgate for 5 hours straight
September 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
“I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?”
Couldn’t get the guys he wanted so he settled.
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Settling in this instance was NOT a good thing. Bresnahan is NOT a plus. Hue should take over the running of the defense and let Al Saunders do his job which is the OC, who designs the offense and calls the plays. We’d be better off if this were to happen.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm
75.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Just like your love affair with TO…who is not and never will be a Raider
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ROG,
maybe not – but if DHB is still on scholarship, Chaz isn’t healthy & Murphy/Ford are “nicked” I’ll sign Terrell Owens over giving a job to Nick Miller or one of the other scrubs.
gotta give Al Davis credit. Derek Hagan was a good find
jury still out on Denny Moore
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Who is nick miller?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
FB’s aren’t ever drafted any more because they aren’t worth a crap in today’s NFL.
All it does is tip off what you are doing offensively.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
81.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
J-Raider
This defense really has me worried, and I don’t know if Campbell & Co can overcome it.
I predict between 6-9 wins. Tops. Ok?
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“Oh boy ya Boss, we sure gonna show them”
September 1st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
honestly alot of the plays coach b was running, were very basic/vanilla man to man with a couple safety blitzes.. hue has already said we will be very vanilla this pre-season anyways. guys like kk that abandon ship at the first sign of alarm, make me sick..
do you really expect our defense to give game film to every opponent this year of what we will really be doing? same goes with the offense.
stop freaking out over things that are truly irrelevant!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Here’s what would happen if the Raiders were as savvy as the Patriots,….
The old man would call DHB into his office and tell him he’s going to be cut unless he takes a pay cut.
Knowing that there isn’t a market out there for a sprinter with bricks for hands DHB would accept the deal.
We’d increase our cap space and keep DHB on the roster for his final chance to prove he’s not a complete bust.
Starters should be Hagen & Ford followed by Moore, Murphy, Chaz & DHB. This would be a no-brainer if we had a GM.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
ohioraider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Does the truth, hurt, J-Raider?
29th against the run in 2010.
No sign of improvement so far this preseason and, more curiously, no personnel changes designed to address it.
Nobody on here is drawing a direct correlation between preseason and going 0-16–who said that? Can you cite the quote?
If you look at this preseason and refuse to see red flags, you’re entitled to your rose colored glasses. If you think (see: Priesttj, TerrapinRaider) the preseason doesn’t signal ANYTHING about the team’s potential you’re off your nut. So save it. Please.
well then the patriots will be in the andrew luck sweepstakes after getting manhandled by the Lions and the Saints will be under .500 after allowing us to put up so many yards while our 1’s played their 1’s right?
September 1st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
kk,
you are an old fool..
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Yep, I’m a local, started going to Raider games in 1964, seen 5 times as many Raider games as you have. Forgotten more about the Raiders than you will ever know.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
81.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
J-Raider
This defense really has me worried, and I don’t know if Campbell & Co can overcome it.
I predict between 6-9 wins. Tops. Ok?
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based on your assesment of our defense, we would be lucky to win 2-4 games this year.. why the sudden change of heart? if we win 9, our defense wont be the thing holding us back!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Sloppy thinking, dude. Sloppy. You’re reaching.
September 1st, 2011 at 1:57 pm
90.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
kk,
you are an old fool..
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Yep, I’m a local, started going to Raider games in 1964, seen 5 times as many Raider games as you have. Forgotten more about the Raiders than you will ever know.
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Meaning Kell doesnt know schit
September 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I might take some heat for saying this cause he is the flavor of the week in here, but I think people are putting to much stock in Hagans preseason performance. We might want to pump the brakes a little in regards of calling him the best WR we have. I think he could be a solid player and add to the WR core but Im not ready to say he is #1 #2, when most of the WRs have not even played due to injurys.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
90.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
kk,
you are an old fool..
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Yep, I’m a local, started going to Raider games in 1964, seen 5 times as many Raider games as you have. Forgotten more about the Raiders than you will ever know.
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inonewordraidergirl, let the men talk.. i wasnt speaking to you. and your argument had no facts to back anything up.. if you couldnt tell i was being sarcastic in that post, then you should shoot yourself in the eye with a bb gun..
as for you kk, you have forgotten alot.. youve forgotten so much that you forgot that pre-season games are for the sole purpose of getting game film and finding undrafted gems on football teams.. its for the young guys, thats it! and our young guys that probably wont even make our football team have let us down by allowing big plays.. if this would have been our starters then sure i would be alarmed, but since its not, oh well! who cares! they just showed the rest of the league what they were capable of! leave it at that man..
September 1st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
FB’s aren’t ever drafted any more because they aren’t worth a crap in today’s NFL.
All it does is tip off what you are doing offensively.
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True FB’s are still extremely valuable in short yardage situations.
All the speed in the world doesn’t help when you are inside the 5yl.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I wonder what possessed Al Davis to bring back Chuck Bresnehan, seriously?
They are currently last in the NFL in Defense giving up 438 yd per game, 138 yds per game on the ground.
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The D hasn’t looked too good in the preseason. I’d agree with you that it’s a shame Marshall wasn’t retained.
But I think the D Line under Waufle will look good, put up sacks like last year- and the O will make sure the D has points to work with.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Based on any rational assessment of this defense, a reasonable observer could conclude the following:
–it’s not championship caliber
–it will put tremendous pressure on the offense
–it will have small margin for error in terms of overcoming penalties
–it may blow games that the offense put us in position to win (for example, you score 30 points you generally expect to win)
–the secondary will be relentlessly attacked until it proves it can lock down; and this will create problems for the younger players learning a new scheme
–it will not single handedly win any games for us like championship caliber defenses do, overcoming off days for the offense
Now, from these observations I don’t conclude a 2 or 4 win season. I do conclude that by a quarter way through the season this blog will be lit up with calls to fire Bresnahan. How’s that for a prediction?
September 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Albinator Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Here’s what would happen if the Raiders were as savvy as the Patriots,….
The old man would call DHB into his office and tell him he’s going to be cut unless he takes a pay cut.
Knowing that there isn’t a market out there for a sprinter with bricks for hands DHB would accept the deal.
We’d increase our cap space and keep DHB on the roster for his final chance to prove he’s not a complete bust.
Starters should be Hagen & Ford followed by Moore, Murphy, Chaz & DHB. This would be a no-brainer if we had a GM.
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DHB already made his money..he got all his guarunteed money front loaded.. he’s not costing us much now
September 1st, 2011 at 2:04 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I might take some heat for saying this cause he is the flavor of the week in here, but I think people are putting to much stock in Hagans preseason performance. We might want to pump the brakes a little in regards of calling him the best WR we have. I think he could be a solid player and add to the WR core but Im not ready to say he is #1 #2, when most of the WRs have not even played due to injurys.
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totally agree…guy has 5 td catches in his whole career and we have guys saying he replaces JFORD…
September 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
True FB’s are still extremely valuable in short yardage situations.
All the speed in the world doesn’t help when you are inside the 5yl.
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That’s why elite organizations like the Packers and Patriots just line up DT’s/LB’s in those situations and save the roster spot.
“True” FB’s are a dying breed. If you can’t catch out of the backfield, you can be the best blocking FB in the world, and still might be changing tires for a living.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
98.ohioraider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Based on any rational assessment of this defense, a reasonable observer could conclude the following:
–it’s not championship caliber
–it will put tremendous pressure on the offense
–it will have small margin for error in terms of overcoming penalties
–it may blow games that the offense put us in position to win (for example, you score 30 points you generally expect to win)
–the secondary will be relentlessly attacked until it proves it can lock down; and this will create problems for the younger players learning a new scheme
–it will not single handedly win any games for us like championship caliber defenses do, overcoming off days for the offense
Now, from these observations I don’t conclude a 2 or 4 win season. I do conclude that by a quarter way through the season this blog will be lit up with calls to fire Bresnahan. How’s that for a prediction?
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teams ranked 30-32 in total defense = see last years denver broncos.. NEXT!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
as for you kk, you have forgotten alot.. youve forgotten so much that you forgot that pre-season games are for the sole purpose of getting game film and finding undrafted gems on football teams.. its for the young guys, thats it! and our young guys that probably wont even make our football team have let us down by allowing big plays.. if this would have been our starters then sure i would be alarmed, but since its not, oh well! who cares! they just showed the rest of the league what they were capable of! leave it at that man..
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You’re either a looney, with virtually no analytical skills to speak of, or you’re Priesttj, who’s so emotionally invested in seeing the positive about the team he is no longer capable of rational thought. Either way, you need to go back to the drawing board with this lame observation. You literally make no sense.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
J-Man you think you dismissed my observations with that monumentally lame retort? You’re another one on here with no analytical skills whatsover. Go get your GED before you take me on, man.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
” youve forgotten so much that you forgot that pre-season games are for the sole purpose of getting game film and finding undrafted gems on football teams..”
WRONG!!!!!
Preseason games are for working on your weaknesses like penalties Swiss cheese defense etc.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Lamar Houston is a better FB than Tonga.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
That’s why elite organizations like the Packers and Patriots just line up DT’s/LB’s in those situations and save the roster spot.
“True” FB’s are a dying breed. If you can’t catch out of the backfield, you can be the best blocking FB in the world, and still might be changing tires for a living.
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Put B-Camp in as the lead blocker in those situations!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
” youve forgotten so much that you forgot that pre-season games are for the sole purpose of getting game film and finding undrafted gems on football teams..”
WRONG!!!!!
Preseason games are for working on your weaknesses like penalties Swiss cheese defense etc.
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How can you work on your defense when you have a majority of guys playing that arent gonna make the team?
Pre-Season is the dressing room at the store, your just trying the clothes on to see if they fit.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I do conclude that by a quarter way through the season this blog will be lit up with calls to fire Bresnahan. How’s that for a prediction?
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Actually, it occurred during the hiring of Coach Breash.
It has also been happening as of late, and if your observations are correct it will continue up until he
is fired.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
im not a priest so i dont understand what YOU are talking about, but its pretty easy to understand, so i will break it down for your simplistic mind…
1. pre-season games are practice/scrimmages for nfl teams to get warmed up for regular season play.
2. on most occasions, teams tend to play mainly back-up players to see if they are worth keeping on the regular season 53 man roster.
3. undrafted rookies get thier shot at the nfl field, to show and prove they belong here in the nfl.
4. this time of year, coaches get to see what kind of depth they will have behind the starting 11 players on both offense and defense.
5. coaches also use film from these practice games to gain a competetive edge against their upcomming opponents.
see man, its no that hard to understand is it?? our back-up players clearly showed us that they arent very good, especially on defense! and guess what!?!? its not the end of the fkin world!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I agree that you are heavily invested in thinking so.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
111.ohioraider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I agree that you are heavily invested in thinking so.
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bet your bottom dollar..
September 1st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
OK then why do the starters play the first half and then in the third game play 3 quarters…….could it be to tighten up on things….to work on things that need work?
If the preseason games were only for un-drafted free agents and rookies then they would play all 4 quarters.
Is it really that difficult for you to comprehend?
Stop making excuses!
Too many penalties and a porous defense!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
We can doubt Hagan all we want…but the fact is, in the past 3 weeks he’s shown more playmaking skills, exceptional route running, soft hands, connection with his QB/s, knowledge of the playbook, ability to get open, more-than-adequate speed, and just plain football savvy…than just about any young WR to EVER suit-up for the Raiders in the preseason.
At this point, if Hagan doesn’t produce in the regular season the way we’ve seen him produce in the preseason, it will be a tremendous let-down…almost as much as a failed top draft pick would be. When you see the skills he exhibits, one can’t help but imagine how good he actually may become.
Hagan’s EXACTLY the kind of player we should be hoping to add to this under-achieving team of the past decade. All indications are that he has come into his own as a pro WR…and there’s nothing bad about that.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
ohioraider,
exactly why should teams be worried if they lose in the pre-season? how does it reflect what will happen in the regular season??
last year the dungver donkeys kicked a$$, and the KC queefs looked like pu$$ys.. how did that end up?
September 1st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
OK then why do the starters play the first half and then in the third game play 3 quarters…….could it be to tighten up on things….to work on things that need work?
If the preseason games were only for un-drafted free agents and rookies then they would play all 4 quarters.
Is it really that difficult for you to comprehend?
Stop making excuses!
Too many penalties and a porous defense!
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The plays and schemes being run are very vanilla. You know this. Players are being put in positions to see how they handle it.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Of the 12 teams that went to the playoffs last year, only 4 of them didn’t go .500 or better in the preseason. Pats-Jets, Steelers-Ravens, Falcons-Saints all tied for the division lead in the preseason, and than were the two best teams in their division in the regular season.
If you throw out the Colts who never win in the preseason, the Panthers, Broncos and Texans had 3 of the worst 4 records in the preseason, and than again in the regular season.
So preseason can sometimes tip your hand a little as to how the season might go.
Chances are, this team will be good offensively and poor defensively, just like preseason.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I a not doubting Hagan, I think he will be a good Wr for the org however, to have him ahead of JFORD, or to even srart him before JFORD is crazy talk…
September 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
This pre-season’s been great. Dropped the betting line on the site I use for the Raiders total numbers of victory for the season at 6.5 (down from 7.5 prior to the pre-season). Think it’s a no brainer to bet on them getting 7 victories or more this year.
Kurt Warner was 28 when the Greatest Show on Turf took off, Campbell’s only 29 and he’s got more weapons this year, confidence, and a line that is doing better than any of us expected. I think our O is going to surprise! This is Soup’s year!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
I’d put Hagan in the slot – like we did with Timmy when we had Rice and Porter.
He should be our Go-To guy on 3rd downs.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
113.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
OK then why do the starters play the first half and then in the third game play 3 quarters…….could it be to tighten up on things….to work on things that need work?
If the preseason games were only for un-drafted free agents and rookies then they would play all 4 quarters.
Is it really that difficult for you to comprehend?
Stop making excuses!
Too many penalties and a porous defense!
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i forgot the starters play until the 3rd quarter EVERY single pre-season game.. your right we suck we should all stop being fans of a team that will never win another game in the nfl..
September 1st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
I’m going to show you how you can make a story out of a sentence by leaving one word off each time. Here’s the sentence:
Oh, George, let’s not park here.
Oh, George, let’s not park.
Oh, George, let’s not.
Oh, George, let’s!
Ooh, George!
Oooh!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Too many penalties and a porous defense!
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shocking!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The pre-season is also for the coaches and even the refs. Its also for the players to get used to hitting again after the off season and getting into game shape.
You people are nimrods, especially Seymour666Glen
September 1st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Of the 12 teams that went to the playoffs last year, only 4 of them didn’t go .500 or better in the preseason. Pats-Jets, Steelers-Ravens, Falcons-Saints all tied for the division lead in the preseason, and than were the two best teams in their division in the regular season.
If you throw out the Colts who never win in the preseason, the Panthers, Broncos and Texans had 3 of the worst 4 records in the preseason, and than again in the regular season.
So preseason can sometimes tip your hand a little as to how the season might go.
Chances are, this team will be good offensively and poor defensively, just like preseason.
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Where does CHI fit into you propagandist argument?
September 1st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
And I have seen some people discredit this last game saying that the Saints got a ton of yards in the second half.
Well, the Saints also gained 165 yards in THE FIRST QUARTER!! That was the most yards in any quarter that we gave up that game, so clearly our 1’s actually did worse than our backups did.
That, all 1’s against 1’s, would put them on pace for over 650 yards in a game, lol.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Ilove what Ford did last year but lets be honest about it he only did it for the 2nd half of the season. Lets see him build on what he did and stay healthy for 16 games.
Hangan or (Hagans) for some of the mentally retarded in here has size, hands and quickness we havent seen around here in a long time.
Having said that lets watch both of these guys a full year and see who is what. Right now they are both a sight for sore eyes (sorry dhb), not really though.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Chicago was the 4th of the 3 out of 4 with the worst record, lol.
That’s the point. You got the 4 worst preseason records in the NFL last year, and two of them were picking 1 & 2 in the draft, one was picking around #10 and one made the playoffs.
Chances are more likely that you won’t be any good than in the playoffs.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
im sorry guys but alot of you seem like grey area fans.. this isnt cool at all to call yourself a raiders fan and then dis everything they do until you see them do something YOU would have done..
im a die-hard raiders fan thru thick and thin, 0-16 or 16-0. in reality there is no such thing as a grey area fan, simply because the word fan is short for fanatic. look that word up people and see if you are really one!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
I want to see DHB play the whole game tomorrow. He had a good game against the 49ers and didn’t show up for the Saints, They should put him out there and let him go against some scrub DBs to try to give this dude some confidence going into the the reg season.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
And I have seen some people discredit this last game saying that the Saints got a ton of yards in the second half.
Well, the Saints also gained 165 yards in THE FIRST QUARTER!! That was the most yards in any quarter that we gave up that game, so clearly our 1’s actually did worse than our backups did.
That, all 1’s against 1’s, would put them on pace for over 650 yards in a game, lol.
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Is DVD a “1″?
September 1st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
” and then in the third game play 3 quarters…”
Damn you are one slow dolt!
Can you read?
Who types for you, your mother?
No one said we suck and no one said preseason dictates your entire season.
The point I was making is that preseason is a time for you to work on your weakness. Penalties, pass coverage etc.
Ia m sorry that you don’t have the brain power to comprehend that. Go back to school your 4th grade education is failing you.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
126.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
And I have seen some people discredit this last game saying that the Saints got a ton of yards in the second half.
Well, the Saints also gained 165 yards in THE FIRST QUARTER!! That was the most yards in any quarter that we gave up that game, so clearly our 1’s actually did worse than our backups did.
That, all 1’s against 1’s, would put them on pace for over 650 yards in a game, lol.
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how many of those yards did a rookie give up that quarter? i believe his name was dvd, and he only gave up 87 yards to drew brees! haha you crack me up.. stop trying man you cant win this one..
September 1st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
DHB is way beyond a confidence builder. Keep dreaming your dream!
lmao @ build his confidence
September 1st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Is DVD a “1″?
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He isn’t an “11″
September 1st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Brownie your just a shlt stain on the diaper of life, with a low IQ I doubt you can even read at a 4th grade level.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
WE DONT NEED ANY STINKING OVER THE HILL WASHED UP JUST OFF OF SURGERY HEAD ACHES LIKE T.O!!!!!
With our current crop of lightning fast talented receivers that havent even entered their physical prime the cry for T.O grows more feint by the day.
besides that dude is a complete nut job, no thanks
September 1st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
666,
I was almost starting like you on that alias, oh well your off my christmas list.
lol
September 1st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Yeah because CJ37 plays 16 games every year doesn’t he?
Has he ever played 16 games in a year (answer:NO)
So DVD will be on the field in the regular season ALL THE TIME, either in different packages or starting in place of CJ37 and his ever present nicks.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
im sorry guys but alot of you seem like grey area fans.. this isnt cool at all to call yourself a raiders fan and then dis everything they do until you see them do something YOU would have done..
im a die-hard raiders fan thru thick and thin, 0-16 or 16-0. in reality there is no such thing as a grey area fan, simply because the word fan is short for fanatic. look that word up people and see if you are really one!
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Most of the guys on this blog are true RAIDERS otherwise they would not be here.
You also have guys that like to debate and argue to test the vebal skills wit and ability to reason ond think.
Then you have guys that like to argue, and just want to be right even at the cost of the team losing. Just so they can say I told ya so. they will post neg comments, all day and during game however, when something good or positive happens they go in to silent mode.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
DHB stinks
September 1st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I agree JFB –
It is likely we will have a good O, and a disappointing D.
I’m just hoping the D won’t be as bad as they have looked so far.
GO RAIDERS!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Yeah because CJ37 plays 16 games every year doesn’t he?
Has he ever played 16 games in a year (answer:NO)
So DVD will be on the field in the regular season ALL THE TIME, either in different packages or starting in place of CJ37 and his ever present nicks
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ever heard of a guy named lito??
September 1st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Put B-Camp in as the lead blocker in those situations!
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Agree with Ted
gotta find a use for Bruce Campbell. play him at FB in goal-line situations
If the guy can’t beat out Barksdale or Heyer at RT … can’t beat out Wiz II or Loper at LG … can’t beat out Carlisle at RG … he’s not going to be a premier guard or tackle in this league
Al Davis has him on scholarship, so make him play special teams or use him size & athleticism to block for the RB’s since that isn’t Reece’s specialty
If Barnes can play TE – BCamp can play FB!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
What J-Raider and other suck ups fail to understand is that many of us TRUE fans put our money where our mouth is! We pay to see the games every year so we earn the right to complain about being a below .500 team for 8 years.
If you are satisfied with 8-8 the you are not a TRUE fan.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I scratched my head at the C Bres hiring myself but one thing he will do is dial up a blitz.
I’m still waiting for tj to explain his nutting on himself over J Moss.
tj, posting at 1am will only last so long for a man your age quit hiding and face the music, fraud
September 1st, 2011 at 2:39 pm
I scratched my head at the C Bres hiring
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No doubt, we are on our way and the thing that could be holding us back is the DCO, and the scheme…
September 1st, 2011 at 2:40 pm
145.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
What J-Raider and other suck ups fail to understand is that many of us TRUE fans put our money where our mouth is! We pay to see the games every year so we earn the right to complain about being a below .500 team for 8 years.
If you are satisfied with 8-8 the you are not a TRUE fan.
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excuse me mrs 666,
i regularly attend games every single season since 06..
seems to me like you are the one who brought up 8-8, i kno i didnt, but im a believer of playoffs or bust!
tell me again why im a suck-up? seems to me that im the one going against the grain here..
September 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Jakoff-Raider
See post 126 tard your own words!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Put B-Camp in as the lead blocker in those situations!
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Agree with Ted
gotta find a use for Bruce Campbell. play him at FB in goal-line situations
If the guy can’t beat out Barksdale or Heyer at RT … can’t beat out Wiz II or Loper at LG … can’t beat out Carlisle at RG … he’s not going to be a premier guard or tackle in this league
Al Davis has him on scholarship, so make him play special teams or use him size & athleticism to block for the RB’s since that isn’t Reece’s specialty
If Barnes can play TE – BCamp can play FB!
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reactionary thought.
First of all b camp missed an important portion of camp, this gave carlisle the upper hand in the competition, but it doesnt mean that b campbell wont eventually overtake him this year.
As far as i know he was never competing for any spot other than rg when camp opened, even if he thought otherwise.
Please believe him being on the squad has nothing to do with ant so called scholarship mandate, but rather his unique size skill and talent. Once he does take the gig he will be there mauling the d line for years to come.
Book it!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
149.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Jakoff-Raider
See post 126 tard your own words!
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ummm try again?
September 1st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
129 Sorry
September 1st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
666, take your meds when you have a spare moment you seem angry and hostile. Sup with calling everybody names?
I only call a few people names that make sit more special, try it!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
You know what I am talking about stop trying to act like you don’t because I made a mistake and put 126 instead of 129.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
honestly dont understand what your trying to say mrs666,
i didnt post 126 or 136 or 116 or even 146????
September 1st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
puff puff pass……Your right Brownie!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
First of all, I would like to say,”what’s up Raider brethren”!?! I’ve been reading everyones posts on here for a few years now and I relay some good points in discussions or putting down Miami Flipper fans-it’s great. On to football…Extremely concerned with our run defense and being vanilla with the playbook during preseason, is no excuse. Containing the run is basic to any good defense and we looked out of place on too many plays, not to mention poor tackling. NEED TO ADDRESS! I think DVD will flourish into a good corner, he just has to learn to turn his head around when the receivers eyes light up. Anyhow, Go Raiders!!! Peace
September 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Your right J-Raider that’s not your post 129 (talking about 0-16) its the rest of us who cant read.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Always right, but still calling names?
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
puff puff pass……Your right Brownie!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
did you look up the definition of fanatic? it describes me perfectly, and again how is that being a suck-up? that would be more like pride and conceitment man, you really do need to work on your meanings of words!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Like I said, meds and try some breathing exercises to help smooth you on da inside.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Your right J-Raider that’s not your post 129 (talking about 0-16) its the rest of us who cant read.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“Extremely concerned with our run defense and being vanilla with the playbook during preseason, is no excuse.”
Careful I got attacked by a derelict when I said that.
Your right on MiamiRaider keep up the good posting!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:50 pm
post #140. concise and accurate.
I just scanned through the above posts and did not find one where KK blames all of Schilens’ injuries on Uncle Al. what gives?
September 1st, 2011 at 2:50 pm
mrs999 is just mad that he cant prove the raiders will suck this year like he wants them to.. i hope he realizes he is doing nothing more than entertaining me here, hahaha….
September 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
carlisle the upper hand in the competition, but it doesnt mean that b campbell wont eventually overtake him this year.
As far as i know he was never competing for any spot other than rg when camp opened, even if he thought otherwise.
Please believe him being on the squad has nothing to do with ant so called scholarship mandate, but rather his unique size skill and talent. Once he does take the gig he will be there mauling the d line for years to come.
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Mistic,
you think Bruce Campbell will beat out a healthy Cooper Carlisle at RG some point this season?
I wonder what JFB & Jhill think of this ???
September 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
“you really do need to work on your meanings of words!”
Lets examine this statement for a minute shall we…Words have meanings yes this is true, but they have the same meaning no matter who speaks or writes them. I didn’t know that MY words had a different meaning than others.
Secondly how can I work to change the meaning of words I would kindly ask you am I a Websters Dictionary?
Dude you can slice it anyway you want this team has some problems that need to be solved and if you cant see that or you want to blame preseason games then go ahead. I chose to live in the real world and not blindly think that once the season starts all problems are solved.
Pretty simple really unless of course my words have a different meaning because I am teh one typing them
September 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm
149.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Jakoff-Raider
See post 126 tard your own words!
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HAHAHAHA
September 1st, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Obviously, coach HueJack likes to use the phrase “trust me”…
This concerns me. When I here someone say “trust me”, it usually means the check I’m going to have to cut when the guy is done, the bill be for twice the estimated amount…
September 1st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
166.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
“you really do need to work on your meanings of words!”
Lets examine this statement for a minute shall we…Words have meanings yes this is true, but they have the same meaning no matter who speaks or writes them. I didn’t know that MY words had a different meaning than others.
Secondly how can I work to change the meaning of words I would kindly ask you am I a Websters Dictionary?
Dude you can slice it anyway you want this team has some problems that need to be solved and if you cant see that or you want to blame preseason games then go ahead. I chose to live in the real world and not blindly think that once the season starts all problems are solved.
Pretty simple really unless of course my words have a different meaning because I am teh one typing them
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i was reffering to when you said i was a suck-up for say im a true fan, when in fact, i would have actually been boasting.. suck-ups tend to go with the flow so others will like them more, when in fact, i am doing the opposite of this by saying you and others alike, are putting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much emphasis on this entire pre-season.. especially given the cercumstances of the entire offseason!!! get a clue mr clueless!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
This franchise has done virtually nothing over the past 8 years to warrant anybody’s blind optimism (Period! as Priest would write). Those of us on here who criticize Al Davis’ preparation of this team’s defense are tired of the excuses. Tired of the hype. Not buying Jackson’s happy face. We’re only holding Davis accountable to maintain his own standards of excellence: something about two more Super Bowls I think it was. Something about not just winning but “dominating.” That’s what he promises–that the “greatness of the Raiders is in it’s future.”
Davis is out of excuses. And, for my money and 40 years of “fanaticism,” he owes us all an explanation if the defense lives down to it’s dismal performance so far.
September 1st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
I have missed about 9 games since 1995 I have spent over 10,000 on Raiders tickets over the last 16 years.
Why would I pay that kind of money to hope that my team loses?
Your reaching and its very entertaining to watch but let me try and kindly explain it to you. Some of us fans are sick of losing (and I know that’s ok with you to be 0-16 as you previously stated) But most of us want to see the team improve over last year.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
Unless of course MY words have a different meaning because I am the one typing them.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:01 pm
666,
you are making my day with your pathetic attempt to argue this.. the raiders will be fine dude! chill the f out, thats all im tryin to tell you guys! if we based everything off of the pre-season, we wouldve been one of the best in 2006!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:02 pm
occasionally one will buy a pair of shoes because one likes them and they almost fit.
one thinks, “it’s okay they’ll feel fine once they’re broken in”.
but they never do quite break in and feel comfortable.
so one tries an arch support or a gel pad or a shoe-strecher, but it never quite works out.
so they are set aside.
chaz
September 1st, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Thank you OhioRaider!!!!!!!!!!
Post 170 very well put sir!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:03 pm
J-Raider please read post 170 it might help you….his words might have a different meaning than mine!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:03 pm
So has everyone forgotten about Jacoby Ford?? I don’t understand why everyone keeps saying Hagan and Moore should be the starters. What happened to Ford?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:04 pm
triple6,
you’ve been around the block enough times to know that there ain’t no point in arguing in this place.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
171.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
I have missed about 9 games since 1995 I have spent over 10,000 on Raiders tickets over the last 16 years.
Why would I pay that kind of money to hope that my team loses?
Your reaching and its very entertaining to watch but let me try and kindly explain it to you. Some of us fans are sick of losing (and I know that’s ok with you to be 0-16 as you previously stated) But most of us want to see the team improve over last year.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
Unless of course MY words have a different meaning because I am the one typing them.
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now your crossing the line mam,
questioning my dedication to my most favorite team in the world by saying i want them to lose! how dare you? im flabergasted!
listen man, studies show that a person with intelligence can see sarcasm faster than others.. apparently you lack intelligence simply because when i say raiders and 0-16 in the same sentance i am being extremely sarcastic!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Shhhhhhhhh
Be quiet I am trying to work on the meaning of my words!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Al loves his projects. No way he cuts Glaz. Suxs that the team has all this little projects and scholaship kids. Tough to beat teams that keep and play their best players.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
M Lonetree
You are correct sir thank you!
I will go back to working on the meaning of my words!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
so ohioraider,
are you not optimistic after last years progress?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
179.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Shhhhhhhhh
Be quiet I am trying to work on the meaning of my words!!
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only a child-like mind would constantly repeat one thing to gain attention from the grown-ups..
September 1st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
triple6,
what do you mean by that???
September 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Please don’t bother me I am in deep thought right now pondering the meaning of my words.
I see these words written on my computer screen but WHAT DO THEY MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:13 pm
words minus meaning equals twitter.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
M Lonetree
Sorry it was a stab at Einstein over there trying to figure out the meaning of words.
It was not directed towards you.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Quote of the day!!!
“you really do need to work on your meanings of words!”
September 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
182.J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
so ohioraider,
are you not optimistic after last years progress?
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I wish I was. I see a good offense, though the line will take awhile to gel. I don’t like Davis’ defensive schemes, and think he’d be hard pressed to find any coaches who can make it work the way he envisions it.
For once, this was the off season to bring in some free agents to patch holes, but because Davis has been burned so badly lately he stood pat. I think there’s a price to be paid for that.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
triple6,
I took no offense whatsoever. I understood the humor and just tried to add some.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
185.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Please don’t bother me I am in deep thought right now pondering the meaning of my words.
I see these words written on my computer screen but WHAT DO THEY MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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good question! you should definitely work on that.. and while your at it, move to sandiego and become a chargers fan! that what you remind me of!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
666Glen, maybe you need a teleprompter like pres purp lips so you can get things just how your libtard handlers want?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
ohioraider,
isnt it a good thing to try to stay away from free agency? build through the draft right?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Brownie I thought we were cool then you show up and call me Glen.
What gives man?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
“ohioraider,
isnt it a good thing to try to stay away from free agency? build through the draft right?”
Wow we have a GM in the house!
What other nuggets of priceless information do you have for us Mr Wordsmith?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
666= liberal, pro gay, anti-american, donkey fan, queef fan, sparkler fan..
September 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Just sayin maybe you need a teleprompter.
Look what it does for pres O, he is a complete derelict when he speaks without his teleprompter. It might help you find the meaning of your words!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
“If DHB starts week 1 Hue will basically have won the team.”
I have been saying this for a few weeks now.
It will be a true test of Hue’s sack and everyone on the team will know exactly what is going on if DHB starts.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Brownie McGhee is my favorite Blues artist so me calling you Brownie is a compliment.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
” It might help you find the meaning of your words!”
LMFAO
Good one.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
MistaBrown,
I was wondering the same thing vis-a-vis triple6?
anyway, disestablishmentarianism can be a good thing or a poor thing.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm
666, seriously dude you gotta lighten up on your $hit.. im a raiders fan and thats all i care about. i dont bash them for every single thing they do, nor do i but in on questions directed to other people, thats just rude.. if you dont agree with my support for our football team then go to another blog.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:24 pm
# J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Oracle’s just makes me mad that he can prove the raiders will suck this year like he wants them to.. i hope he realizes he is doing nothing more than pissing me off, hahaha….
September 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Wow, this blog is in need of a new post like hours ago.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Like I said Hue, meds and try some breathing exercises to help smooth you on da inside.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I hate all politicians they are all on welfare as far as I am concerned Democrats and Republicans.
The system is broke!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
DHB is great!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
i will be back once the children leave..
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:27 pm
anyway, disestablishmentarianism can be a good thing or a poor thing.
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but that supercalafragalisticexpialadocious wrapped up tight in a Garcia y Vega is always a good thing.
M can’t have the monopoly on all the big words…
September 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Quote of the day!!!
“you really do need to work on your meanings of words!”
You said it I am just laughing at it along with 5 guys here in my office who are rolling because of your syntax.
Way to entertain J-Raider I hope you do a half time show!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
The whole “it doesn’t matter if they are 0-16 or 16-0″ is one of the dumbest things I ever read.
So are you telling me you would be just as excited for game 16, if we were 0-15, as opposed to being in a playoff race??
If we are 15-0, KoolKell will be in here with pillow-talk for Al Davis!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
school must be out ’cause the children have just arrived with their juvenile taunts and acned hates.
wheeeeeee.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
171.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
I have missed about 9 games since 1995 I have spent over 10,000 on Raiders tickets over the last 16 years.
Why should I pay that kind of money when I know the Raiders are going to stink this year??
Its very frustrating to watch but let me try and kindly explain it to you. Some of us fans are sick of losing (and I know that’s ok with you to be 0-16 as you previously stated) But most of us want to see the team improve over last year but they won’t!!
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
Unless of course MY words have a different meaning because I am the one typing them.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
# J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
i will be back once Hue gets fired..
GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:31 pm
By the way I sit in section 141 row 22 I wear a Cliff Branch jersey come on by I will buy you a beer and all will be forgotten.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:31 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
school must be out ’cause the Raiders have just arrived in Seattle to get their butts kicked.
wheeeeeee.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm
ever heard of a guy named lito??
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I have.
Heard his best days were years ago.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Just sayin maybe I need a teleprompter.
Look what it does for pres O, he is a complete derelict when he speaks without his teleprompter. It might help you find the meaning of my words!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
LA to the Bay,
whensoever did a new post engage this crowd into anything other than their own self-serving commentaries?
oh yeah, maybe the first half dozen might deal with the post, perhaps not, but the remainder is name-calling and disparaging and whatsoever crudola.
Post meridian that is.
Ante merdian has this stuff as Raider fans intact.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
JFB the voice of reason.
I always read your posts because you seem to get it!
Its a battle to try and get some fans to understand why we are not satisfied with 8-8.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Settling in this instance was NOT a good thing. Bresnahan is NOT a plus. Hue should take over the running of the defense and let Al Saunders do his job which is the OC, who designs the offense and calls the plays. We’d be better off if this were to happen.
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Is everybody basing their distaste for Bresnahan on the preseason?
Please correct me if i’m wrong, but didn’t we have a pretty decent defense when he was here before? Were we not 8-8, 10-6, and 12-4 with a SB berth under Bres.? And, wasn’t our D pretty decent?
Help me here please.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm
# J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I won’t be back til Hue gets fired..
GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
666 is killin today lmao
September 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
The whole “it doesn’t matter they will be 0-16 is one of the truest things I ever read.
So I am telling you I would be just as excited for game 16, if we were 0-15, as opposed to being in a playoff race!
September 1st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
i say play him(if hes’s healthy) and he’s sure to be hurt by week 5, we can cut him to make room for pryor
September 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:32 pm
ever heard of a guy named HUE Jackass??
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I have.
Heard his best days were years ago.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
B@uce
Did you give the Lochness monster $3.50?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Pee Wee Herman called, he wants his act back.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Gerard,
football fans are almost never satisfied.
if the D pitches a 45-0 shutout in the opening game against the donkeys there will be someone who b)tches that CJ gave up a first down completion.
anything else you need to know?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:45 pm
*******
dvrick Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I don’t know, I kind of like being a dingleberry.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
“anything else you need to know?”
What is the square root of pi?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
strudel
September 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I might take some heat for saying this cause he is the flavor of the week in here, but I think people are putting to much stock in Hagans preseason performance. We might want to pump the brakes a little in regards of calling him the best WR we have. I think he could be a solid player and add to the WR core but Im not ready to say he is #1 #2, when most of the WRs have not even played due to injurys
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So what do you say about the UTTER LACK of production in muliple regular season games for the rest of the team (except Ford)
Hagan is the best receiver on this team right now. Potential is what it is…..production matters.
When the other guys “put it on tape” and produce, I am going to discount that potential…its production today for this team.
Kind of like Time Value of Money…..DHB might be have a potential value…but its a highly risky asset with a long payback period.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:49 pm
M,
Probably would be better if I said that I needed the new post.
It’s slow here, I’ve read the news, I checked the weather, I’m twiddling my thumbs, Corkie is nowhere to be found and recess. just. won’t. end.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:50 pm
227.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
B@uce
Did you give the Lochness monster $3.50?
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Coon and Friends
September 1st, 2011 at 3:50 pm
81.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
J-Raider
This defense really has me worried, and I don’t know if Campbell & Co can overcome it.
I predict between 6-9 wins. Tops. Ok?
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September 1st, 2011 at 3:51 pm
229.M Lonetree Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Gerard,
football fans are almost never satisfied.
if the D pitches a 45-0 shutout in the opening game against the donkeys there will be someone who b)tches that CJ gave up a first down completion.
anything else you need to know?
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when will FAILKELL leave this earth?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
LA to Bay,
so, what do YOU do with Chaz?
September 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Keep Chaz on the roster, even if he is not healthy at the beginning.
Chances are, by the time Pryor is eligible to play, the Chaz situation will probably have resolved itself.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
September 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
229.M Lonetree Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Gerard,
football fans are almost never satisfied.
if the D pitches a 45-0 shutout in the opening game against the donkeys there will be someone who b)tches that CJ gave up a first down completion.
anything else you need to know?
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Thanks. I know the good yrs. we had under Bres. as DC were mainly due to our Gannon led offense with Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Charlie Garner and the rest, but i think the D basically held its own.
Also, I don’t recall Bres. being the “prevent a win defense” as some have said but i believe that honor goes to Rob Ryan.
I don’t care where the opposition was on the field with 2 mins. left but I KNEW they were gonna line up for a winning fg or TD. I KNEW IT.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:58 pm
M Lonetree Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
LA to Bay,
so, what do YOU do with Chaz?
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Who?
No, too easy. Well, he’s not making a lot of money and occupying a roster spot when one is seemingly undeserving of it is nothing new to the team, however, Chaz has displayed the ability when healthy, unlike a DHB.
He’s working out again and will probably be ready for week 1.
I’d say if it came down to two guys left to cut and one was Chaz and the other was say Hagan, Sterling Moore, or Mike Mitchell, I’d say thanks for the memories, Mr. Schillens, I’ll need your playbook, buddy.
If guys who should make the 53 do (over guys who could potentially stick on scholarship alone) and it comes down to Chaz or some fringe special teamer, keep Chaz.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
If for no other reason than he would instantly find health after being claimed off waivers by New England en route to Canton.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Quick, someone trace Dvrick’s IP address so we can kick in his basement door.
September 1st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Vegas,
so you believe Schilens can remain adequately healthy to be of help?
I would hope that Taiwan can remain intact, but I don’t believe it so that’s why I couldn’t pick him as my MUP.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:01 pm
M, they gotta be able to touch Taiwan to stop him.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Check in with you fellas later. Play nice.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Let’s face it. What really scares everybody here about Chaz is that we’ll let him go and he’ll end up in New England, or worse San Diego, Denver, or KC and THEN stay healthy and turn into a pro bowl receiver for years to come.
It’s what scares me the most anyways.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
239.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Keep Chaz on the roster, even if he is not healthy at the beginning.
Chances are, by the time Pryor is eligible to play, the Chaz situation will probably have resolved itself.
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Funny I was just thinking that by the time TO will be recovered from his acl about the time pryor is eligible, the Chaz thing will have been resolved…
September 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm
If Chaz can make it to game 5 or 6 before getting injured, we can pick up TO to finish the season.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Cool article in SI about how infrequently teams play their actual “base” defense.
It said the Raiders were in the 4-3 59% of the time, and in the nickle the other 40%.
Only 1 NFL team, Seattle, lined up in their base defense 60% of the time.
The Packers were in the 27% in the 3-4. They were in a 2-4-5 over 40% of the time.
Just an interesting read about how sophisticated the NFL has become. Demarcus Ware goes on about how much has changed in the last 5-6 years.
I hope Hue is a chess player, not a chest-thumping checkers buffoon.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm
LA to Bay,
I watched the young man in college. He could take a hit. He was untouchable at other times. I want him on the Raiders. People will be amazed (as they were in pre game 3).
but…
September 1st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
so you believe Schilens can remain adequately healthy to be of help?
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M,
I certainly wouldn’t “fire” on that action, but I think you have the Pryor roster situation that allows for a little more of buffer for a month or so for Chaz to figure things out.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Gerard Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Let’s face it. What really scares everybody here about Chaz is that we’ll let him go and he’ll end up in New England, or worse San Diego, Denver, or KC and THEN stay healthy and turn into a pro bowl receiver for years to come.
It’s what scares me the most anyways.
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Keep him, or IR him. But were not letting go of him. Al is way too proud of his 7th round find. And Chaz was the justification for not taking Crabtree.
Chaz us a Raider.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Vegas,
truth.
so it is about the players being able to adapt to situations, no?
September 1st, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Chaz is a one hitter quiter. Maybe good enough to get a couple of good games…then you know what
September 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
90.KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
kk,
you are an old fool..
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Yep, I’m a local, started going to Raider games in 1964, seen 5 times as many Raider games as you have. Forgotten more about the Raiders than you will ever know.
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inonewordraidergirl, let the men talk.. i wasnt speaking to you. and your argument had no facts to back anything up.. if you couldnt tell i was being sarcastic in that post, then you should shoot yourself in the eye with a bb gun..
as for you kk, you have forgotten alot.. youve forgotten so much that you forgot that pre-season games are for the sole purpose of getting game film and finding undrafted gems on football teams.. its for the young guys, thats it! and our young guys that probably wont even make our football team have let us down by allowing big plays.. if this would have been our starters then sure i would be alarmed, but since its not, oh well! who cares! they just showed the rest of the league what they were capable of! leave it at that man..
Just read this and had to respond. Calling a man a girl not very befitting of a real man. You could never be the man I am first of all and getting all worked up over the internet is funny
September 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Injured by the Jets game…
September 1st, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Oh We! I can’t wait for Rolando Death Ro McClain to get his hands on Zach Miller tommorrw!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I hope Hue is a chess player, not a chest-thumping checkers buffoon.
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Or….Just another Al Davis pawn with a head set…
September 1st, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Just say no to T.O.!
September 1st, 2011 at 4:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
DHB is way beyond a confidence builder. Keep dreaming your dream!
lmao @ build his confidence
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How are your Cleveland Browns looking this year?
September 1st, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Everyone is so focused on this season and how the D has looked this preseason. We have so many talented young players getting there feet wet in there first or second year in the NFL.
This team going forward is going to be awesome for years to come when all these kids start to mature.
Our offense is going to be the best in the league in the next year or so. Players will start come here looking for a ring instead of going else where.
Relax! Defense is going to suck this year against some good teams. But our offense is going to be fun to watch. We can work on improving our D next season and when that comes around look out.
Can’t blame the coach when a guy gets blocked and a Rb blasts right by the guy. Players have to make plays. These guys are pro’s. You can only blame the coach for his scheme.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Chaz shuoldn’t be such a polarizing player. He is effective when healthy, sadly is rarely so, but costs next to nothing and has some potential. He knows the offense, already been living here for several years.
They either keep him on the roster cause they think he can help the team (proven) or they release him because they need the room for another player. Simple.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:35 pm
so it is about the players being able to adapt to situations, no?
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That is what life is all about, and football is just a microcosm of life.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:37 pm
SuperBruce has entered the game!!
September 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
That Costanzo is getting beat like a drum, AGAIN, in this game.
Reason #4,325 why I would rarely ever draft an O-lineman in the first round. Very few of them have much more value than a say Jered Veldheer, who you can get in the 3rd round, and pay way less money.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:52 pm
JLofty Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Chaz shuoldn’t be such a polarizing player. He is effective when healthy, sadly is rarely so, but costs next to nothing and has some potential. He knows the offense, already been living here for several years.
They either keep him on the roster cause they think he can help the team (proven) or they release him because they need the room for another player. Simple.
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Yep. But some people like freaking out about things, I guess.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:52 pm
whats up nation..
September 1st, 2011 at 4:53 pm
JFB You sold me some time ago. I think you could put Peyton behind our line and in two weeks they would all look like pro bowlers
September 1st, 2011 at 4:53 pm
233.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
realtruraider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I might take some heat for saying this cause he is the flavor of the week in here, but I think people are putting to much stock in Hagans preseason performance. We might want to pump the brakes a little in regards of calling him the best WR we have. I think he could be a solid player and add to the WR core but Im not ready to say he is #1 #2, when most of the WRs have not even played due to injurys
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So what do you say about the UTTER LACK of production in muliple regular season games for the rest of the team (except Ford)
Hagan is the best receiver on this team right now. Potential is what it is…..production matters.
When the other guys “put it on tape” and produce, I am going to discount that potential…its production today for this team.
Kind of like Time Value of Money…..DHB might be have a potential value…but its a highly risky asset with a long payback period.
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I think Hagan can be a good player for this team but theres no way Im calling him the best. From all the reports the passing Offense hasn’t looked this good since 02, I think it has alot to do with Al Saunders and JC and the O-Line
Im sure if Murphy, Ford, and Chaz were healthy and had a chance to play in this offense as it is now this preseason, They would look pretty good themselves.
What Hagan did vs the Saints earned him a roster spot but before that game he was still fighting to even make the roster per reports. I never heard he was the best WR at camp either, heard alot about D.Moore though.
September 1st, 2011 at 4:55 pm
i’ve been reading jerry’s blog for awhile now..is it me or steve corkran in his blogs says weird stuff..like.
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It says here that the Raiders are doing the right thing in being patient with Schilens and waiting for him to get to the point where he can be a regular contributor, if not a No. 1 receiver.
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No. 1 wr? its been how many years?
September 1st, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
That Costanzo is getting beat like a drum, AGAIN, in this game.
Reason #4,325 why I would rarely ever draft an O-lineman in the first round. Very few of them have much more value than a say Jered Veldheer, who you can get in the 3rd round, and pay way less money.
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Yep. To me, o-line, DEs, LBs and WRs are positions you draft a lot of deep in the draft.
DT, DB, and of course QB tend to be positions that require a rare skill set worthy of high draft picks.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:00 pm
What Hagan did vs the Saints earned him a roster spot but before that game he was still fighting to even make the roster per reports. I never heard he was the best WR at camp either, heard alot about D.Moore though.
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Good post…Hagan has caught 5 TD’s his whole career. Played in 1 game last year, has a history of injuries, and some of these guys are making him out to be a world beater…No way in hades should he play before JFORD, and in my book he is behind DMOORE who has been ripping it up…
September 1st, 2011 at 5:03 pm
SuperBruce looks like Superbruce
September 1st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
grads lighting up the 3rd stringers…nice
September 1st, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Bruce is 9 for 9
September 1st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
http://www.news10.net/news/article/152773/2/2-raccoon-attacks-reported-in-downtown-Sacramento
You’ve been warned!
September 1st, 2011 at 5:07 pm
JFB You sold me some time ago.
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That’s what I do, lol.
I agree with YA, some positions just don’t need to be used in the first round, unless you are talking about a Jon Odgen type player at O-line.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:07 pm
post #1 scared the hell outta me until I read the date at the top.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm
So how much does Pryor play tomorrow?
More importantly, how many tosses does he get?
Being that he is not going to play much for the rest of the year (hopefully) I would have him throwing a ton of passes, running two minute drills even if it isn’t a two-minute situation and the like.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Derek Hagan Best WR on the Team right now!!!!!
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Based on what, his past history, or the preseason game?
September 1st, 2011 at 5:11 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
That Costanzo is getting beat like a drum, AGAIN, in this game.
Reason #4,325 why I would rarely ever draft an O-lineman in the first round. Very few of them have much more value than a say Jered Veldheer, who you can get in the 3rd round, and pay way less money.
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Yep. To me, o-line, DEs, LBs and WRs are positions you draft a lot of deep in the draft.
DT, DB, and of course QB tend to be positions that require a rare skill set worthy of high draft picks.
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You can’t get a Veldheer or Volmer outside of the First rnd very often.
LT are 1st rounders, all other O line are later.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:14 pm
LT on teams with Right Handed QB’s.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Teams like the Steelers, Colts, Saints, Cardinals and Giants made the Super Bowl with castoffs and 6th/7th round picks at LT.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Plunk,
Are the Rebels going to be able to cover the 36 points tonight?
September 1st, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Green bays one booting a boot to that KC A$$…
September 1st, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Anyone tell Steve the initial foot injury was actually broken his Senior yr in College and he didn’t stay off it enough.
Exacerbated it in the Pros.
Steve also forgot to mention Schilens is a 7th rounder and paid accordingly.
Noo reason to drop him if we can dump him to practice squad or whatever if need be.
Schilens is pretty much a non issue.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Actually, I think I have to take the Giants off that list.
There guy was a 2nd rounder.
Anyways, by my count, prior to Green Bay last year the last team to start a LT they drafted in the first round in the Super Bowl was Seattle. Pittsburgh has had 3 different LT’s in their 3 most recent LT’s.
Not as important as people want you to think.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Thec…..Hagan is an actual poss WR….Moore is rook but Ford is a big play Az Hakin 3rd wr….I love his abilities but I neeed my starters reliable to do any route and be successful…..Hagan reminds me alot of Jimmy Smith who use to play for the Jaguars
September 1st, 2011 at 5:29 pm
They have been terrible for so long, since the days of Henry hyde, Randall Cunningham and even Ron Meyers.
I thought John Robinson would do the job but he didnt come close. They suck and dont deserve to play Division 1a
I bet they cover the points though
September 1st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
And Thec…it should be Hagan and Moore….that gives me more confidence than Ford and DHB…which will be the starting lineup lol
September 1st, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Teams like the Steelers, Colts, Saints, Cardinals and Giants made the Super Bowl with castoffs and 6th/7th round picks at LT.
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So did the Raiders JFB, still they don’t happen very often at all. What is the % of teams with a first round LT? I’m guessing over 80% and at the time we went to the SB last, Sims was the ONLY starting LT not drafted in round 1.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:37 pm
The great news is that even with Murph and Schilens out we still have some pass catchers that could be viable.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:38 pm
It’s like groundhogs day with Chaz and right now ( as usual ) he is taking up a spot. I don’t know if things will ever change for the guy. I just think he is just one of those guys who will always be getting “knicked up” for the rest of his career. Not everyone is cut out to play in the NFL.
As far as I see it, Chaz Shilens is a non-issue anymore. His number has been wiped from my brain until the dude can finish a whole season and produce.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
And Thec…it should be Hagan and Moore….that gives me more confidence than Ford and DHB…which will be the starting lineup lol
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I Like DHb he has improved however, the other WR’s on this team are ready… No need to start DHB at this point…
I will Take HAGAN/FORD DMOORE/FORD…Doubt DHB starts no way man…Coach Jackson calling the shots…
September 1st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Chaz is a non issuse. It would be a nice to know how serious or not his serious his knee injury is though.
They will keep him around and cut Miller and let Chaz get healthy….again….and give him one last shot from there.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Its not simply Schilens vs Miller. The team has to make room for TE/WR Ausberry.
Ausberry, McFadden, Jones, and Reece can all lineup wide. Pryor will soon be joining that group.
In order to make room for Ausberry, someone at another position will have to be cut. It could be a WR or Cartwright on the offense. It could be a LB or DB on the defense.
Do the math and its not an easy choice. Mitchell’s injury looks serious. The backup positions at LB and CB are unsettled. WR might be the easiest position to let a player go.
September 1st, 2011 at 5:54 pm
We finnaly have solid depth at WR…That position has become a strength as before it was a weakness…
I am on record as saying this O will be top 5….
Way too much, of too much…
September 1st, 2011 at 5:56 pm
See that there B, cant wait for those chick wings and brewskys!
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Thec07 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
I will Take HAGAN/FORD DMOORE/FORD…Doubt DHB starts no way man…Coach Jackson calling the shots…
September 1st, 2011 at 5:57 pm
I remember one year, during the Shell, White, or Bugel era.
Raiders WR’s were dropping passes all over the place. Even Timmy had the dropsies.
DHB needs to stop pressing and just focus all of his energy on running the route and then catching the damn ball before trying to make a play after.
CATCH THE DAMN BALL FIRST and then everything else will run it’s it’s course after.
FOCUS on catching the football first and that is it!
September 1st, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I’m guessing over 80%
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I’ll take that under.
Steelers, Rams, Raiders, Patriots, Panthers, Saints, Cardinals just off the top of my head.
I would say it is closer to 50/50.
September 1st, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Any combo 2 WR set is okay with me;
HAGAN/DMOORE
HAGAN/FORD
FORD/HAGAN
FORD/DMOORE
September 1st, 2011 at 6:13 pm
2 WR sets can also include the likes of;
Fools Gold
DHB
LMURPHY
September 1st, 2011 at 6:14 pm
3 WR sets;
Same options plus;
Reece
TJ
DMAC
Bush
Boss
Wizard of Auz
September 1st, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Now what I am looking and hoping for 1st game is for denver to come out and stack the box, to shut down the run game…
The way JC looked against No If they do this JC is going to lite that A$$ up…
September 1st, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Teams like the Steelers, Colts, Saints, Cardinals and Giants made the Super Bowl with castoffs and 6th/7th round picks at LT.
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Depth? Yes. But do we have a legit #1?
Do we have depth at X?
September 1st, 2011 at 6:29 pm
There are many people of this site who have been ragging on DC Chuck Bresnahan and, maybe, rightly so?
However, it’s important that we “rate” his productivity
during “actual season games” that count, and “not” preseason games where we have 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers playing so that they can be evaluate them.
From what little I know, he did fairly well when he was with us before. That’s a plus, because we all know that AL is always meddling and issuing orders, especially on the defensive side. Which makes coaching for AL a very difficult thing.
The one thing that we have to keep in mind is that we “no-longer” have the fatass Rob Ryan and his “prevent-defense” to deal with. That alone is a major plus…no matter what. Dallas will learn real fast that Ryan is useless. He might look good to some, as he runs down the field with his long raggy hair blowing in the breez and his fat ass belly wabbling back and forth, but anyway you cut it…he’s a loser as a defensive coach.
September 1st, 2011 at 6:32 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Teams like the Steelers, Colts, Saints, Cardinals and Giants made the Super Bowl with castoffs and 6th/7th round picks at LT.
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So did the Raiders JFB, still they don’t happen very often at all. What is the % of teams with a first round LT? I’m guessing over 80% and at the time we went to the SB last, Sims was the ONLY starting LT not drafted in round 1.
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Real Dirty Coon, I read an article awhile back (1-2 years) it was titled “Hi, Low” I think, but anyway it was all about the drafting of O linemen. and how teams balance the $’s in a unit like linemen.
I’ll try to find it, and post. The gist was blind side pass protectors get drafted much higher, and get paid a Ton more.
September 1st, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Ford V12, “D-Wow” Moore, Hagan, Murphy, Schilens, DHB
September 1st, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Raider J Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Ford V12, “D-Wow” Moore, Hagan, Murphy, Schilens, DHB
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Thats a bomb as WR corp…
September 1st, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Uglyorc great post #298
September 1st, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Thec07 it would be the fastest most athletic WR corp probably in history all you have to do is let them mature and you’ll have one helleuva passing game. Add the TE corp and it’s very impressive.
Boss has got to get and stay healthy for us to have a fast start.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:25 pm
I would take Miller over DHB. At least Miller can return kicks.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:27 pm
# Hagar the Horrible Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 6:29 pm
There are many people of this site who have been ragging on DC Chuck Bresnahan and, maybe, rightly so?
However, it’s important that we “rate” his productivity
during “actual season games” that count, and “not” preseason games where we have 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers playing so that they can be evaluate them.
From what little I know, he did fairly well when he was with us before. That’s a plus, because we all know that AL is always meddling and issuing orders, especially on the defensive side. Which makes coaching for AL a very difficult thing.
The one thing that we have to keep in mind is that we “no-longer” have the fatass Rob Ryan and his “prevent-defense” to deal with. That alone is a major plus…no matter what. Dallas will learn real fast that Ryan is useless. He might look good to some, as he runs down the field with his long raggy hair blowing in the breez and his fat ass belly wabbling back and forth, but anyway you cut it…he’s a loser as a defensive coach.
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Chuck B did what and how long ago was that??
What did he do after that besides get fired for having a crap defense in Cinncy and then get himself isolated into the UFL?
I’m not giving Chuck B the benefit of the doubt for nothing. He needs to prove it and earn it first!
September 1st, 2011 at 7:33 pm
HTH these guys can get Bill Belichik and they’ll complain if he doesn’t have instant success. They are a bunch of whiny crybabies the moment they can’t suck on a tit start crying.
There is no way to appease them until we are rated #1 on defense and then they’ll nitpik.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Doug Flutie’s daughter, [a New England cheerleader]?
“Wow,” does not begin to describe her.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:38 pm
I would take Mr. Heyward-Bey over Mr. Miller as at least DHB could play cornerback.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:40 pm
When Chuck B. was our defensive coordinator last, we had Mr. Eric Allen [besides Mr. Herman Edwards, the only person worth listening to on espn] & Mr. Charles Woodson as our two cornerbacks.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Retribution,
you aware that Tony Larussa’s daughter is a Raiderette this year?
September 1st, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Thec07 it would be the fastest most athletic WR corp probably in history all you have to do is let them mature and you’ll have one helleuva passing game.
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Indeed Bruh…Thats why I keep saying top 5 O…
September 1st, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Miller’s gotta go. He can’t seem to outrun anyone with them little legs of his and looks uncomfortable from behind the 2-man wedge.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Schilens ain’t going anywhere til he is scheduled to miss extended time. Then, his number is up.
September 1st, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Preist, I knaow you watched the NO game. Did you see how the NO CB’s were playing the WR’s?
The were playing WAAAYYYY off the LOS so far it wasnt funny. All that “Al Davis” speed had them spooked…
September 1st, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Ford, Hagan & Moore for a 3 WR set. Wouldn’t that be sweet? DHB, Murphy & Chaz would all be great back-ups!
September 1st, 2011 at 7:55 pm
semdaddy Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Ford, Hagan & Moore for a 3 WR set. Wouldn’t that be sweet? DHB, Murphy & Chaz would all be great back-ups!
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We seemed to be stacked at WR…
September 1st, 2011 at 7:55 pm
September 1st, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
“If DHB starts week 1 Hue will basically have lost the team.”
I have been saying this for a few weeks now.
It will be a true test of Hue’s sack and everyone on the team will know exactly what is going on if DHB starts.
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if gulp DHB starts it will be cuz he’s garnered the respect of the wr coach an head coach…..
NOT….it will be cuz the “Ole Man ” said so
September 1st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Thec07 I say it all the time Thec07 while many hate DHB he draws a lot of doubles. The underneath stuff will be easy pickins, it’s going to be fun to watch. DH’s man was 15 yards off him and if you look at the deep safety he’s always in another zipcode.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:09 pm
priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Thec07 I say it all the time Thec07 while many hate DHB he draws a lot of doubles. The underneath stuff will be easy pickins, it’s going to be fun to watch. DH’s man was 15 yards off him and if you look at the deep safety he’s always in another zipcode.
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I am not going to lie that Sh!t had me cracking up…
I was screaming at the TV. Whats good was that JC was seeing it… He was in TOTAL command of the O…
This is a very dangerous O we have, I may have to move us up to top 3…Right now no way we will be less than top 5….
September 1st, 2011 at 8:11 pm
3 WR set to start against Denver on MNF will be Mr. Ford, Mr. Heyward-Bey, & Mr. D. “Wow” Moore.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:13 pm
DHB is not a polished rec’r by any stretch but the way these guys talk about him you’s think he was blind. The guy plays every game just about he just needs to finish plays the same thing I’ve been saying all offseason. Collinsworth may be right about hs inability to set up rec’s but all our WR’s suffer the same issue they have yet to learn to do that because it’s hard to do most vets don’t do it well. If you notice DVD as one fan stated he waas painted on Larry Fitzgerald which means Fitz couldn’t do it to him.
Wise vets do that sort of thing more than a 2nd year guy. Name on erec’r we have that actually knows how to set a guy up besides maybe DH and he’s been doing it to backups. The kid has yet a lot to learn but it doesn’t mena he cannot learn it.
Denarius Moore is the most complete WR we have IMO including Chaz the rest are on the come. Ford has moxey but he’s far from polished he is just so explosive and competitive he gets things done. It’ll take this unit a couple of more years before they are a savvy vet unit.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Oracle, yes, though I did forget.
She is very hot as well.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Cory Liuget from the waste down looks like a Hippo, man that guy is thick no wonder he’s so tough to block now I would love to get a guy like him at DT.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Thec07 nothing would surprise me because of the HB’s we have are capable of dominating games along with all that speed outside. It may be the most explosive offensive team in history and I know that sounds insane but if you look at the speed and playmaking ability we have at every position it’s mind blowing.
We will lead the league in explosive plays……
September 1st, 2011 at 8:22 pm
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September 1st, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Fastest most athletic wr corps in history: hmmm, Rice and Taylor were quite athletic, Moss and Carter…Holt and Bruce…NO, I’LL TAKE THE NO NAMES FROM OAKLAND AS FASTEST BEST ATHLETES IN HISTORY!
lol priestt
September 1st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
I got a party in my head!!!1 LOL
September 1st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
well I better go to bed, got a short day tomorrow!
September 1st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
DKnight007…post 315:
Hey dude, you need to go back to school and learn how to read. I wasn’t defending him, I merely said you have to judge him from actual games and not preseason. And, that standard has always applied to everyone.
Also, for your information, a coache’s ability is not always based on if they got fired or not. Many coaches get fired when the head coach gets fired and they were part of the unit he brought in. And, when you measure one’s coaching ability, you have to take into account the personnel he had. There are many factors but my main point, again, was judge the dude during seasonal games. Also, I was pointing out, in my opinion, that he will be an improvement over Rob “Mr Prevent Defense” Ryan. That’s just my take.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:36 pm
night Y’all
September 1st, 2011 at 8:42 pm
It’ll take this unit a couple of more years before they are a savvy vet unit.
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Yeah Man, but will we keep them? Will we keep and develope? Will they become to ‘pricey’? Will we be steady at the wheel for the long haul? Al must be committed to the long haul. Or else the is no hope.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Moeaki apparently was dinged up in his game…Cassell needs that guy to lean on since their offense went to Miami…
Score one for the rest of the afc west.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
A los suenos Negra. I am off to get some ham wallet myself.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Raiders’ problem next season will be that both Mr. D. McFadden & Mr. M. Bush will be unrestricted free agents.
Like I said earlier, after Chris ohnson’s payday, you know both Darren & Michael will be running for 1,000 to 2,000 yards.
“Show me the money!”
“I said, show me the money”
September 1st, 2011 at 8:51 pm
priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Thec07 nothing would surprise me because of the HB’s we have are capable of dominating games along with all that speed outside. It may be the most explosive offensive team in history and I know that sounds insane but if you look at the speed and playmaking ability we have at every position it’s mind blowing.
We will lead the league in explosive plays……
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AMEN….
September 1st, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Hagans,ford,Moore,murphy,shilens,DHB
there’s ur depth chart folks
September 1st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
I only mention DHB cuz we have too.
The ole man says so
September 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Haydern signed with the falcons yesterday if anyone cares.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Tjones is a better version of nap kaufman
September 1st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
r8dercain Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Tjones is a better version of nap kaufman
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He has the potentisal however, he needs to do over a few years
September 1st, 2011 at 9:01 pm
You don’t keep a Nick Miller, W.McFadden or even a Lito over a Chaz. He can impact our team so much more than these guys. Easy call.
We just may have a lot of offensive games like Jax game last year…we just got to win them. I also believe our D-line may just win us some games. Each side has to pick up other. Our O will probably have to do most of the heavy lifting.
September 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
I say keep glaz schilens. .. if he stinks it up until week 6 and he’s still hobbling along… cut bait with him and bring in Pryor. .. I guess chaz would the 6th..wr
September 1st, 2011 at 9:13 pm
R8dercain Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Tjones is a better version of nap kaufman
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Better? I sure hope so, but no real way to tell yet.
September 1st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Raiders’ problem next season will be that both Mr. D. McFadden & Mr. M. Bush will be unrestricted free agents.
Like I said earlier, after Chris ohnson’s payday, you know both Darren & Michael will be running for 1,000 to 2,000 yards.
“Show me the money!”
“I said, show me the money”
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Hello??? I’ve been saying thus all offseason.! So either resign or trade them! Dont just let them go for nothing!
STOP relying on the Franchise TAG!!!
Do your JOB!
September 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Sup guys, a daily reader here. I like to check this website and see what’s going on with the Raiders, and see what my fellow Raider Brethren think also…and I’m sorry if I sound like a jerk but, man this Corkan guy and his pal don’t know how to give enough info! I mean who the hell wants to read about Chaz chillin? The guy won’t even play until week 3 at the nearest! Give us the readers what we want damnit! What’s John Henderson looking like, is he healthy? How’s Pryor looking? How about Chris Johnson? F*** Chaz Chillin man, he’s on the back burner of every raider fans mind atm….Go Raiders heh
September 1st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
I really dont care whether we keep chaz or not.cut nick miller, mcfadden, ware, were not paying him much, just don’t rely on him. let d moore hagan j ford play.. if they do cut him, who cares.
September 1st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
#356. Right on!
September 1st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Just picked up my tickets for the season, Ill be in parking lot D. this season is going to be a good one.
September 1st, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I wonder if the starters will play much tomorrow
September 1st, 2011 at 9:42 pm
T Jones Will play more than Bush this year,
September 1st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Racoon… It’s a bit early to proclaim Tawain better than Napp, dont you think. I mean, HE HASN’T EVEN PLAYED IN A REAL GAME YET!!! Minor detail., I know.
September 1st, 2011 at 9:49 pm
I hope not we just can’t afford the chance of injury. Once that game is over it’s 0-0 no one will remember what happened in preseason beyond 10 minutes after that game. Even if we get embarrassed if you win opening day not one single individual will say yeah but we went 0-4 in preseason we suck. It doesn’t count…period
September 1st, 2011 at 9:53 pm
The colts snap their 9 game losing streak in preseason…and look at how their season turns out so big freakin deal if we lose preseason games
September 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm
We need that 1-0 baby!
September 1st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Conversely it doesn’t matter how good you look in this last preseason game and win it if you lose a key starter and don’t win vs Denver.
Again the prize is the division title not impressing everyone with a great preseason finale.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:04 pm
An idiot, on one side of his mouth says the pre-season doesn’t mean anything, on the other side they’re proclaiming Taiwan Jones, superstar.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Everybody has Murphy on the 53. In case you haven’t noticed, the WR bar has been raised and the only scholarship is DHB. I’m not sure Murphy will be up to this new level of expected performance. Nobody really knows his real injury status. If he’s not back by week 4 he could end up on IR. I think the WR lineup will be:
• DHB
• Ford
• Hagan
• D-WOW
• Schilins
• Murphy
* McGee (probably PS)
* NMiller (released)
* Jackson (released)
* Bodiford (released)
Tight ends:
• Boss
• Ausberry
• Meyers
* Gordon (probably PS)
QB: (I think beginning week 6 they will carry 4 QB’s)
• JCampbell
• Boller
• Edwards
• Pryor
September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
I think Murphy could be gone, too.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 10:04 pm
An idiot, on one side of his mouth says the pre-season doesn’t mean anything, on the other side they’re proclaiming Taiwan Jones, superstar.
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You know, Kell has a point here. McvFadden’s lst year was dismal. His second year was even worse. His yardage totals went down, and his fumbles went up. No one on this blog is saying to cut McFadden right now are they? Even tho he hasn’t played in the preseason. Maybe some of you GM “geniuses” should just STFU.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
335.priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Thec07 nothing would surprise me because of the HB’s we have are capable of dominating games along with all that speed outside. It may be the most explosive offensive team in history and I know that sounds insane but if you look at the speed and playmaking ability we have at every position it’s mind blowing.
We will lead the league in explosive plays……
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I’m with you, Priest. The potential is here, no doubt. We have very good individual talent, on both sides of the ball. The question is, can these guys play as a team and win?
September 1st, 2011 at 10:25 pm
If Murphy does return he will find that he’s on the bottom of the totem-pole now. I doubt he’ll see anywhere near the playing time he had in the past. D-WOW & Hagan will be playing in front of him. Whether Schilins hangs on is strictly in his control. If he can stay healthy he’ll play. But, if he has another debilitating injury he likely to be sent to the recycling center.
It’s really amazing if you think about it, last year our WR corps was so-so. This year it has all the appearances of being potentially outstanding.
Soup really needs to be on his game this year. He now has an opportunity to make a significant difference.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:28 pm
September 1st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Friday night gonaa be like groundhog day:
If the Raiders wax seahawks ass with cow manure and beat them to a pulp, we gonna be very good this year
but
If the Raiders don’t look superior and dominating this could be slow painful season.
But only 1st qtr counts.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
September 1st, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I love Derek Hagan. I think Taiwan-on Jones, is going to be a very good pro player. But neither of these guys, (nor Denarius Moore) played one down in the Silver and Black against actual real NFL players with real bullets flying.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
I’m not happy with Schilens injuries but I don’t think we can afford to just drop him and risk him lighting it up with another team, especially a rival. Keep him and see if the guy can hold up. 1 more year.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Taiwan Jones. Man. I understand what you’re saying Seymour but it’s hard not to get excited about this guy.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:49 pm
If he goes to another team you lay a hard hit on him and he’s likely gone for an extended period. I hope he stays healthy and contributes. But if history is any measure, the odds are not looking good.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
JB Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 10:49 pm
If he goes to another team you lay a hard hit on him and he’s likely gone for an extended period.
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LOL. True that. Good point.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
So any word from Hue on whether the starters will play at all tomorrow?
September 1st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Hagan is an NFL vet & what you se is what you get. D-WOW will light it up no matter what color uniform he wears. Fortunately he ended up with us. Taiwan Jones has probably been running all his life in a lot tougher circumstances than the NFL playing field. He comes across as the little guy who’s a real over-achiever. In the past he probably survived because no one could catch him. I just hope he’s durable enough to take the smack-downs he’s going to get from opposing defenses.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Priestt,
if your mind is blown by our wrs playmaking ability (and you’re basing that mostly on preseason) how would you describe the LEGIT explosive receiving groups like philadelphia, pittsburgh, and new orleans? You know, real passing offenses that actually have 1000 yard receivers and can put up 300 yards on anyone.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Taiwan Jones. Man. I understand what you’re saying Seymour but it’s hard not to get excited about this guy.
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You’re absolutely right. This kid is a very special guy. Watching him live, at first he was really tentative, and he was trying to slow himself down. Once he gets used to NFL speed and his blocking schemes and can just trust his natural ability, tee up and just let it fly, he is going to be really fun to watch.
September 1st, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Alex7
I think the only thing that will prevent our WR corp from getting 300 yds per game would be our running game getting 250 yards per game. It’s all going to be where the emphasis is placed. Are we going to be a run-first team that day or a pass-first team. I guess a lot of that will depend on the defenses we are playing against.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:06 pm
JB Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Alex7
I think the only thing that will prevent our WR corp from getting 300 yds per game would be our running game getting 250 yards per game. It’s all going to be where the emphasis is placed. Are we going to be a run-first team that day or a pass-first team. I guess a lot of that will depend on the defenses we are playing against.
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I can’t say I overly agree with this. The number one thing that is going to prevent our WR corp from 300 yards a game would be Jason Campbell. Campbell has proven himself to be an excellent Q when the running attack is chewing opponents to pieces. Just between you and I, if I had a running attack that was killing the opposition, I could probably complete some passes. Campbell has not shown he can do that on his own.
If the running game gets shut down, this recent offense has shown itself to stall. Hence why we need a Q who can take a game over on his own.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:06 pm
TJ is more like CJ2K he’s not a stout yet but he has that kind of ability. You’ve seen individuals shine in the preseason but it is the preseason I cannot stress that anymore than I have. DH has never played in a starting role in the NFL yet everyone wants him to. The same is true with DMoore. Yes he is as I said teh most compete rec’r we have BUT he still needs to prove it over a season.
To just push guys aside who’ve done it doesnt make sense to me. But it does to you guys IMO Ford starts Chaz if healthy starts also my next player off the bench would probably Murphy or DHB followed by Moore and then DH until I see that the guys in front of them cannot get it done and the guys behind them are consistently outperforming them in practice. If I see that then I shuffle the cards accordingly.
But to start the season I just do what I know until they show me in practice I’m making a mistake. But I would go by what I see in practice dailey if indeed DMoore is putperforming Murphy and DHB he plays ahead of them instantly. If not he doesn’t I allow guys to win jobs in practice than keep that job by performing at that level in games. That’s how you run a team.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_mxXyoTNs&feature=related
The play at 3:20 is incredible. And it wasn’t the only tim he turned a potential big negative to a big positive.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Alex7 you act like a little petulent child you take offense to everything as if I’m saying our WR corp is better than there’s now.
You ignore every and all disclaimers as if the wren’t said stop asking me questions that are answered in the very same post you are questioning…………retard
I said that this corp is a coupe of years away from being a savvy vet group. I said it has tremedous athletic and ability explosiveness. I wouldn’t compare our passing game to NO nor St Louis greta offense allthough it is the same scheme with the same potential.
We haven’t done it yetbut in totality with the running game and the TE’s I think this offense has mind blowing potential. If you cannot comprehend my post please do me and yourself a favor and overlook them going forward…………thanks for listening.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:15 pm
If the running game gets shut down, this recent offense has shown itself to stall. Hence why we need a Q who can take a game over on his own.
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Yep! We can only go as far as our running game. Thankfully, we should have a good one. JC is actually pretty darn good with play action. I don’t have much hope for our team if it gets too far behind in any game. A pass only attack won’t work with JC.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:16 pm
F@cking nerds!!!
September 1st, 2011 at 11:19 pm
However that being said we did outscore NO last year and some other higher rated offenses.
The potential if we stay healthy is mind blowing(did i already say that?) Oh well….
I’m out fellas enjoy!!
September 1st, 2011 at 11:23 pm
BHP….stop just stop
September 1st, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Sad to see you play DHB over anyone. Come on what shows you he can get 5 catches a game?
September 1st, 2011 at 11:27 pm
jacoby ford will be a beast this year!
dmac will be a beast this year!
romac will be a beast this year!
lhouston will be a beast this year!
big sey will be a beast this year!
other than those guys everyone is at par with the rest of the nfl..
September 1st, 2011 at 11:29 pm
dhb hasnt been able to catch 5 passes a game in his entire football career!
September 1st, 2011 at 11:30 pm
priest,
every nfl offense has the “potential” if they all stayed healthy.. we just continue to keep players that are proven to get hurt alot (glass)
September 1st, 2011 at 11:32 pm
#
# J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 11:27 pm
jacoby ford will be a beast this year!
dmac will be a beast this year!
romac will be a beast this year!
lhouston will be a beast this year!
big sey will be a beast this year!
other than those guys everyone is at par with the rest of the nfl..
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What about Sho’nasty?!
September 1st, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Raider Nation-Station
BREAKING: Oakland player finds missing child.
WR Darrius Heyward Bey found a child missing at a Seattle Mall. He and rookie RB Taiwan Jones were apparently greeted with cheers and applause from those gathered round the incident.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:34 pm
WR Darrius Heyward Bey found a child missing at a Seattle Mall.
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Right On! good to know DHB is good for something.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Mr. Sho’nasty will an all-pro!
September 1st, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Here’s what I see in our offense:
A QB who isn’t consistently hitting the deep throws when we have burner receivers that can get open deep. He tends to underthrow them.
But, his strength is the short/intermediate throws and screens which we have the tools to utilize.
WRs who are FAST! Probably better to utilize them for the most part throwing short and letting them get YAC, but can definitely run them deep and take shots downfield.
GREAT pass-catching RBs and FB who can be used to create huge mismatches against LBs/Safeties.
A Tight End who is very solid blocking and has pretty good hands.
Tie all of that together and it should be a very explosive offense. I actually think our weakest link right now is at QB. Not to say that he’s going to be horrible. He should be pretty solid actually.
Our WRs don’t have anyone that’s a top 15 target for this year, but as a whole unit it’s pretty solid now.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:39 pm
-BHP’s MUP List-
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
(IR)Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
(IR)Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
(X)GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
No Mas Diamante ; DVD – CB
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNBlackPA ; T.Jones – RB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(IR)YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
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MUP Point Structure:
Rec/Rush: Td’s = 5 pts
Plays over 20 yards = 2 pts; 40yards = 3 pts; 50yards = 4pts
Poor blocking = (-2)
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QB:Td pass = 5 pts
Pass over 100 = 2pts; 200 = 3pts; 300 =4pts
Int (-4)
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Defense: Pick six= 5 pts
Int’s= 4 pts
Sacks = 4pts
Pass broken up =1pts
Over 4 tackles = 2pts; 6 = 4pts; 8 = 5pts
TFL = 2pts
FF = 3pts
FR = 3pts
TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
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Offense: Most agressive blocker = 5pts
No sacks allowed = 4pts
Sacks given up = (-2pts)
Pre-snap penalty = (-3pts)
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“Heads-Up” Heyer Award = (6pts): awarded to player who showed the best instinctive play.
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I know these pts benefit QBs, RBs, and WRs. But since the MUP list does not include most starters(exceot wizII, Chaz and DHB) – those players will have to really step up in games.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:39 pm
SeaBass is going to be a beast this year.
September 1st, 2011 at 11:51 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Racoon… It’s a bit early to proclaim Tawain better than Napp, dont you think. I mean, HE HASN’T EVEN PLAYED IN A REAL GAME YET!!! Minor detail., I know.
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I agree 100%. Raidercain was the not to say TJ was better than Nap K.
If TJ has 40 carries and over 5.0 YPA we gotta trade Bush or McFaddy and extend the other.
September 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 am
Forgot to mention:
FUMBLE = (-4pts)
September 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Raider Nation-Station
BREAKING: Oakland player finds missing child.
WR Darrius Heyward Bey found a child missing at a Seattle Mall.
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and after racing to him and picking him up, he dropped him.
just kidding, but it was too easy.
September 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 am
If you’re not going to keep a good player who is injury-prone like Zach Miller, then it’s stupid to even consider keeping Chaz. Raiders have coddled too many injury-prone players too long. Enough already.
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:00 am
…This blog better have more updates tomorrow, these old farts must not know how to use computers. Seriously all day, all they could muster up was a chaz article? sheeez!In todays world we want things NOW! Get with the times will ya? GO RAIDERS!
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:12 am
Knowbody Rocks like the Killers from the West!
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 am
Your starting WRs will be JFord/DHB. Its starring you in the face; don’t know why you all deny it (on top of many other things).
Chaz, Murphy, DMoore, Hagan will backup.
But who starts doesn’t really matter in my book because the truth is they all will likely get plenty of snaps.
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:17 am
But a more ridiculous statement being made on here is the possibility of MM34 being cut. That sht is ludicrious imho! Just asinine talk. Who the hell is better than MM34 at SS?
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:24 am
I don’t think the team will start Chaz because 1. Murphy & DHB have already caught up with him, 2. he’s oft injuried so you would not want to depend too heavily on him in your offense.
Murphy may not suit up opening night so thats out the picture.
DMoore is a rookie. Maybe a sensational rook but a rook nonetheless.
Hagan is a journeyman WR who had 1 solid game in the preseason vs N.O. starters. Before then he was not even in conversation for seriously competing for a roster spot (resvd for Miller).
I think the lovefest surronding Hagan is crazy ludicrious. Its shows that many on here can’t think past their noses. Or better yet, children, who has yet to fully develop their mental (vs emotional) capacities.
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:30 am
So its Ford & DHB.
We all know Ford will be a featured WR in this offense.
The funny thing when it comes to DHB is he shut a lot of you up for 2 straight weeks during preseason. You all were shocked at his progress and how good he was looking. The back shoulder catch vs SF coupled with the mid-deep strike on a crucial 3rd down. (Can’t remember AZ that well but he looked better then too).
He was given 2 opptys vs N.O. on a deep ball that he should have caught and another short slant where he was draped by a defender w/ no call.
Now he is the worst ever, again.
You ppl call yourselves fans of the Oakland Raiders but really all you are are Fantasy Footballl players.
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 am
He was given 2 opptys vs N.O. on a deep ball that he should have caught and another short slant where he was draped by a defender w/ no call.
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draped is almost an understatement here. you cannot catch a ball w/ your arms being held. period!
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:40 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders notes: HueJax normally gushes about playmakers, but seemed underwhelmed by Hagan.
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Interesting..
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders notes: Most improved player _ DHB. Coaches may have figured out best way to use him. Surprised I’m writing this.
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Even Jerry had to admit it. You all should just give up the stale arguments and roll with it too.
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 am
Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
BLTN Raiders notes: Encouraging: Denarius Moore, Derek Hagan . . . huge upgrade over JLH
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Definitely agree with that. I tuned into an Eagles preseason game and immediately heard JLH named mentioned next to the word “DROP”
September 2nd, 2011 at 2:21 am
JLH = Spook.
September 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 am
Terapinraider…you seem a little bit biased, which is fine as he came from your university.
He is definitely improved this year. I still would not be confident that he’ll adjust to and catch a deep ball thrown his way. I’d say he’ll catch about 33% of them that would be catchable.
But, I think he’s much improved on the shorter routes and much more confident and higher % on those. And that’s what Jerry is saying as well if you read all of his writings.
So, I think he’s definitely working hard to improve and his strength can be utilized but he’s still a liability on the longer throws to him. It’s fine. It is what it is, and probably in the next year or two he’ll get more confortable with that as well and will be a solid all-around receiver.
September 2nd, 2011 at 2:37 am
Also, on Hagan, it’s not like you’re saying exactly. He has been noted as being solid throughout camp and making a lot of catches. He may not be the flashiest of our WRs, but on a 3rd down throw I’d like him to be the one catching it.
He’s in one word Consistent. He’s solid, not flashy. But he’ll catch whatever’s thrown his way, and we need a WR like that.
September 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 am
Kim Newton will start week one.
September 2nd, 2011 at 2:51 am
I think we will go from #11 defense to around #24 this year.
From #2 pass defense last year to around #15.
Offense though should be potentially even higher, and definitely will be more consistent than last year.
September 2nd, 2011 at 4:22 am
J-Raider Says:
September 1st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
see man, its no that hard to understand is it?? our back-up players clearly showed us that they arent very good, especially on defense! and guess what!?!? its not the end of the fkin world!
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I’d say it’s pretty damned scarey. It means that any of our starters on Defense gets hurt then there’s a HUGE weak link that will get exploited like hell. I.E. DVD getting burned like hell for 5 of the first 6 completions by Brees.
September 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 am
Question bloggers…game on the line…4th quarter…under 1 minute left. Deep ball thrown to a WR. Which receiver would you want to have on the receiving end of that ball (if the receiver were healthy at that time for Chaz’s sake)?
a. Ford
b. Schillens
c. Moore
d. Hagan
e. DHB
f. Nick Miller
g. Boss
h. Other
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:04 am
Maverick – Hagan or Boss, they’ve been there before.
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:19 am
Murphy not on the field?
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:19 am
WHAT IS IT WITH THIS BEING 1ST… IS THERE A PRIZE OR SUM?!?!?! I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT MEMO?!?!
EITHER THAT OR CHILDREN ARE RUNNING WILD HERE & WHAT IS THIS CALLING YOURSELF A G MEAN?!?!?! YOU MEAN GNOME? I DON’T GET IT?!?!?!
LET’S HOPE WE DON’T NEED MAGIC TO GET THIS OFFENSE GOING… I’M NOT VERY OPTIMISTIC SO FAR, CHAZ THE “GLASS” SCHILLINGS MUST GO!!! HE’S HURT AGAIN WOW, THAT WAS A SURPRISE… WHO SAW THAT ONE COMING, NOT ME!!!!!!
AND WHAT IS IT WITH DHB?!?!GIVE THAT GUY A KNIFE MAYBE HE CAN CUT SOMETHING INSTEAD OF RUNNING STRAIGHT LINES!!! GEEZZZZZ WHO ALLOWS THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN!!!!!
SORRY FOR THE UPPER CASE IT NOTICED TOO INTO THE EMAIL AND I’M JUST TOO LAZY TO CARE OR RE DO THIS…GO RAIDERS!!!!!
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:26 am
JFORD, he did it twice in one game against KC. Besides no one can guard him 1 on 1.
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:48 am
And he did it against Brandon Flowers, that makes it even more impressive.
JFORD is a baller, can’t wait to have him back.
The offense will have its training wheels off, finally.
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
For some reason, I’ll be sitting at home, with beer in hand, watching the game tonight…Eh, why not?
Did someone say Kim Newton is starting week one? Well, lol…but no surprise (well maybe, just a little), but Alex Smith is starting week one also! What is Harbaugh trying to do there??? Oh well, who cares?!!!
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:54 am
If the WR is healthy, the answer is Chaz
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:56 am
why Chaz? What has he done?
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:56 am
KC is crazy. Todd Haley doesn’t have a clue. He played his starters into the 4th Qtr and they still got rocked by the Green Bay scrubs. KC is going to be a doormat and Haley is going to fired. Losing Charlie Weiss was huge.
Dungver is rolling with a bust RB and scrapheap worn down McGahee as their crew. Gonna be a long year…
San Diego rolled with Ryan Mathews last night and he looked good on a long TD run. But WTF is Norv doing rolling out Mathews ina meaningless game? lol
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:58 am
Guest, I’m hoping Huey learned something from last nights KC game. Cassell went out with what looked like an injury but he says he’s okay today. Hue made it sound like he plans on playing some starters tonight to get this win. Just throw out the scrubs and call it a preseason!
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 am
Chaz is a rumor of greatness, a unicorn, a fable…it’s time to stop believing in fairy tales.
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 am
Thec07,
I read your posts about the NO DB’s being waaaay off the LOS, and you are 100% correct.
I will offset that, however, by rewatching the first half last night and noticing that they NEVER had a deep safety over the top. You saw the DHB pass, 1-1 on the outside, NO safety help whatsoever.
And you were right, again, that Soup did a great job checking down to it. Again, that TD to Hagan, the NO defender was waaaay off, and once Hagan broke the tackle, there wasn’t anyone within 20 yards of him.
Just my two cents. I think the way NO’s played with no deep help, was a huge slap in the face to our WR’s (no matter how the DB’s were playing us) and we were able to exploit it, with a lot of crisp short passes to WR’s not named DHB.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
coach HueJack likes to use the phrase “trust me”…
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909,
sort of like a sleezy car salesman, right?
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
Oh, and I would hardly say that they got “rocked” as you said, 1 point loss hardly constitutes as a rocking. They were up most of the game (KC’s starters against GB’s back ups). I think they are going to be horrible this year!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
raiderjhawk Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:58 am
Guest, I’m hoping Huey learned something from last nights KC game. Cassell went out with what looked like an injury but he says he’s okay today. Hue made it sound like he plans on playing some starters tonight to get this win. Just throw out the scrubs and call it a preseason!
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I agree. I’m ok with ending the preseason 0-4. wtf cares? Just bench all the lock starters and let the scrubs all play.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
Whenever a sales men says “trust me” or “to be honest” they are not to be trusted and are now just finally being honest.
Trust me.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:02 am
Everybody ready for our weekly roasting of DVD?
I actually think he will guess right once tonight, and get an INT and maybe a pick 6.
Lots of Terrell Buckley in that guy, so he will make a few big plays.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:02 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
Whenever a sales men says “trust me” or “to be honest” they are not to be trusted and are now just finally being honest.
Trust me.
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Not until you qualify what you say with “to be honest”.
mkay…
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 am
Yeah, can’t wait for DVD on the opening drive….
What’s the over/under on how many catches he gives up?
I put it at 6
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:06 am
Other favorites include:
“In all reality” – preparing you for poor performance/product
“In plain English” – I just feed you a line of BS that you clearly didn’t buy
“Bottom-line is” – Making excuses for poor peformance/product
“In all fairness” – Knee-deep in excuse making
Please feel free to add more, and I can tell you the meaning
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:06 am
I wonder how many people know that Todd Haley never played pro football.
Never played college football.
And never played high school football.
I wonder how many people know that, before KC, Todd Haley never was a head coach in pro football.
Never a head coach in college football.
And never a head coach in high school football.
He played on the golf team. He coached golf teams. And he got his football start because of his daddy, hired right into the NFL with no prior experience, as a scout.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:07 am
Truth be told….
I don’t have a dog in that fight, but….
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:08 am
Mornin’ a.m. crew!
Lance Briggs has asked for a trade out of Chicago. One of the best weakside linebackers in the league.
Of course Chicago won’t be trading him for anything short of a king’s ransom, but there would be a hell of a solution to the WLB problem.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:09 am
“Truth be told” – similar to “to be honest”
“Don’t have a dog in the fight” – I’m pissed I can’t you sell you anything
“Obviously” – please believe me, as if it were obvious than I wouldn’t have to say it
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:09 am
JFB,
“At the end of the day…”
Always translated that as “I’m ignoring your arguments and arbitrarily insisting I’m right.”
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:10 am
TO will be recovered from his acl about the time pryor is eligible, the Chaz thing will have been resolved
If Chaz can make it to game 5 or 6 before getting injured, we can pick up TO to finish the season.
***
Agreed with Talk (#250)
grab Terrell Owens when he’s healthy and Chaz isn’t!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:12 am
436.guest123 Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 am
Chaz is a rumor of greatness, a unicorn, a fable…it’s time to stop believing in fairy tales.
+++++++++
Preach it.
Then again, Al is the guy who paid Javon Walker eleven bazillion dollars to do nothing. I’m sure he’s got no problem paying Chaz in popsicles and athletic tape to do the same thing.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:13 am
And to answer the question of what WR would we want with 1 minute to go, the answer is not even close:
Jacoby Ford
Lou Murphy has had made some big time catches, probably more than Ford, but he is more adept at getting open. Chaz has the best size for that situation, but well, he is Glass Schilens and might pull up with the ball in flight.
Ford, even with his diminutive stature, has proven the ability to go up and fight for the ball and come down with it.
DHB is not even in the question. You talking catching a short pass and picking up chunks of YAC, than yes I would actually have him right after Ford.
But catching a deep pass?? LMAO at even considering DHB. That dude is lost once he gets about 30 yards from the LOS.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 am
the light has come on….
the game has slowed down….
Giving it one hundred and ten percent….
grinding it out to the whistle…
playing it like it’s our last game…
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 am
Ford, even with his diminutive stature, has proven the ability to go up and fight for the ball and come down with it.
++++++++++++++
Watched his taking the ball away from Brandon Flowers the other day. Still breathtaking.
Oh and this…”LMAO at even considering DHB. That dude is lost once he gets about 30 yards from the LOS.”
You added an unnecessary zero to the number
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 am
I’m interested to see what Cable is rocking tonight.
Two games ago, he had the gold chain, pinky ring and diamond earring going.
Last game, he ditched the earring and pinky ring.
Maybe he will come out with a cane and a leisure suit tonight.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 am
I’m ok with ending the preseason 0-4. Just bench all the lock starters and let the scrubs all play.
***
G123,
couldn’t agree more!
This should be Boller in Q1. Edwards in Q2. Pryor entire second half
Jones in Q1. Cartwright & Bennett in Q2. Rankin, McCluskey & Tonga entire second half
DHB, Moore & Hagan in Q1. Miller & Bodiford in Q2. Bayes, Jackson & McGee entire second half
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:16 am
Don’t forget the catch against Miami.
While nowhere near as important as the KC catch, it might have been more impressive.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 am
Re-watched the game last night, and Taiwan had two carries and one kickoff return where the whistle had apparently already blown, but the Saints ended up with the ball.
Taiwan was a little close to a few fumbles, so I am watching for ball security tonight with him.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:19 am
Lance Briggs has asked for a trade out of Chicago. One of the best weakside linebackers in the league.
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PA,
does Jay Cutler want Chaz Schilens & Nick Miller?
pull the trigger!
throw in that “beastly” run blocker Mayonaise Tonga
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 am
Doubt we could afford Briggs.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 am
G123,
Chaz = Easter Bunny?
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:22 am
LMAO @ some guys here last night still defending DHB. You gotta be a hardcore Al Davis neophyte to keep making excuses…
At the end of the day….DHB will come into his own….Truth be told, he’s had a lot of pressure….I don’t have a dog in that fight, but DHB has impressive combine numbers….DHB is giving it 110 percent every play….Bottom line is DHB was never given a chance….In all fairness, DHB deserves another chance….
blah-blah-blah-blah-bittidy-blah…
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:23 am
RRS,
LOL! It’s a shame Hiram Eugene is on IR, because I’m sure he’d be enough to seal the deal.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:23 am
Chaz = Easter Bunny?
********
No, he’s more like the Rock in “tooth fairy”
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 am
GUEST123,MY ALL TIME FAVORITS,WERE TAKING IT 1 GAME AT A TIME, AND , IT’S A MARATHON NOT A SPRINT..
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 am
the response on post 455 made me laugh out loud.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 am
Maybe throw in the best long snapper in the league aswell?
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 am
What’s up Neil? I think we are still $5 million under cap…maybe able to afford Briggs…maybe???
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:25 am
It’s a shame Hiram Eugene is on IR, because I’m sure he’d be enough to seal the deal.
***
PA,
there is always young buck Walt McFadden destined for greatness – or 2x Pro Bowler Lito Sheppard ???
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:26 am
GUEST123,MY ALL TIME FAVORITS,WERE TAKING IT 1 GAME AT A TIME, AND , IT’S A MARATHON NOT A SPRINT..
*******
goodun’s Dirt lot,
translation JFB?
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 am
throw in the best long snapper in the league as well?
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Neil:
if Jon Condo gets traded, there better be a franchise QB involved!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 am
Regardless I think old man Al really will want to win tonight just to prove that losing Miller and Gallery didn’t hurt us any.
Let’s just hope that our starters make it out of this one unscathed.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 am
472.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 am
throw in the best long snapper in the league as well?
***
Neil:
if Jon Condo gets traded, there better be a franchise QB involved!
LOL…I’m sure Bo will chime in on that one!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 am
Trade Condo for Southwick
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:29 am
Trade Condo for Southwick
***
can we trade with the Tampa Bay Storm?
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:29 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
I thought we had mega problems with the cap?
G123 and Dirt lot……don’t forget to thank God.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:30 am
can we trade with the Tampa Bay Storm?
*********
Why not? We traded for our new DC
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:31 am
Talk of Condo and trade…..do you think BSJ’s ears’ just pricked up?
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:32 am
Bo probably woke up to news of Condo…
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:35 am
I thought we had mega problems with the cap?
***
Neil,
DHB took a paycut down to $10 million per season
WOOT WOOT!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:35 am
THANKS NEILB,GLAD I WAS NOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING 4 NOT REMEMBERING.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:39 am
Missed that bit of news ’bout DHB taking a pay cut.
…….and Dirt lot…….he forgives you…..
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 am
Lord, thank you.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 am
Why not? We traded for our new DC
***
easy there, G123
Chuck B is our best DC since… Chuck B
and Blackstock from the UFL is one of our Top 4 LB’s!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:44 am
MAYBE NEILB.JUST DONT THINK I HAVE MANY “GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARDS” LEFT,IF U KNOW WHAT I MEAN..PLAY THE STARTERS 1 SERIES 2NIGHT,THATS IT.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:44 am
485.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 am
Why not? We traded for our new DC
***
easy there, G123
Chuck B is our best DC since… Chuck B
and Blackstock from the UFL is one of our Top 4 LB’s!
…and that is what scares me!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:44 am
and Blackstock from the UFL is one of our Top 4 LB’s!
+++++++++
*facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm* *facepalm*
Just reading that hurts, man.
Said it last week, say it again: this team has the depth of a Texas mud puddle at most positions.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:45 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot! I agree…don’t be like Haley and start them dam near all game!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:45 am
LMAO S&BPA!!!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:47 am
I want to see tonight, a good drive for a TD from the first team, then let the scrubs take it from there!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:49 am
Today was the day that Pheidippides did his run from Marathon to Sparta.I’m sure there’s a link to the Oalkand Raiders but I just can’t see it.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:51 am
Oh no, I can hear “300″ references coming…
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:52 am
“Several of Chuck Bresnahan’s curious and suspect blitz calls and personnel groupings have left defensive players shaking their heads in disbelief.”
That was from Chuck’s final year as D-Coordinator.
Same goes for me, except I wasn’t shaking my head, I was throwing stuff around.
I remember him well, I used to hate the guy until we got Rob Ryan and then I wished Chuck had never left.
Bresnahan will drive us crazy, that’s the one thing I’m certain.
The guy works hard, studies a lot and often comes up with crazy new ideas, sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t.
My guess is that this Defense will make more plays than it used to and create more turnovers, but it will get ugly sometimes.
Good luck to Chuck and good luck to us, get ready to talk about Bresnahan’s gameplan and schemes on a daily basis, let’s just hope they work out more often than not.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:56 am
Here’s why Chuck B is going to fail:
We are going to continue to have a couple of good plays and then 3rd and long, Bam! big gainer, 20+ yards. Just like that, other team’s in scoring position. Then stop, nother stop…then Bam! TD other team.
this is a preview of Chuck B’s defense.
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:57 am
Good Morning Bob,
Yeah, it’s gonna be a long season, but I just hope that what we have ssen so far was just pre-season! I’m sure there is going to be things tweeked here and there, but if we come out good…I’ll be ok!
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:59 am
If Chuck B can be honest with himself and run in personnel and packages that disguise our weaknesses instead of expose them. If he’s allowed to bench some of “Al’s” guys he can change that pattern of stop-stop-bam.
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:02 am
Fawk, I cant remember who our DC was last year..
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:03 am
dammit, hangovers really doesnt make remember better : /
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:03 am
Jim Marshall, who got us 47 sacks. One off the NFL lead. That was our DC. Traded him straight up for a UFL DC.
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 am
Hwnrdr
- “…but I just hope that what we have seen so far was just pre-season!”.
That’s the thing, I don’t think Bresnahan has showed much yet, I think he has kept this defense playing fairly basic so far….I’m sure we’ll see the real stuff on week 1, whether or not it’s a good thing remains to be seen.
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:12 am
Later.
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:14 am
G123…
yeah thats right, we will miss him : /
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:15 am
Jhawk
I pick Chaz because he has geat hands and is our best WR when healthy.
Ford is great but Chaz is large. He makes a big target and he has great hands.
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:15 am
Plunk,
Looks like UNLV back-doored the cover didn’t they?
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:16 am
I miss Jim Marshall already…
:/ sniff
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:19 am
Like I say, it is amazing how close they get those spreads and over/unders
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:31 am
Trade Chuck B for Lance Briggs Please!!!
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:32 am
All things in moderation.
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Plunketthead
Its almost like they are mathematical genuineness.
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 am
Thec07,
I read your posts about the NO DB’s being waaaay off the LOS, and you are 100% correct.
I will offset that, however, by rewatching the first half last night and noticing that they NEVER had a deep safety over the top. You saw the DHB pass, 1-1 on the outside, NO safety help whatsoever.
And you were right, again, that Soup did a great job checking down to it. Again, that TD to Hagan, the NO defender was waaaay off, and once Hagan broke the tackle, there wasn’t anyone within 20 yards of him.
Just my two cents. I think the way NO’s played with no deep help, was a huge slap in the face to our WR’s (no matter how the DB’s were playing us) and we were able to exploit it, with a lot of crisp short passes to WR’s not named DHB.
+++++++
I have not had time to re-watch the game I could not tell if they had top help, I had assumed they did. To say that they did not have help over the top was total disrespect to our O. It appears that they may have schmed based on last years WR’s, and QB… and production…I did get a sense that the CB’s were scared… we should have put 28 on that scheme in the first half….
September 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 am
JFB, based on your astute comments how do you defend or scheme against this RAIDER Offense?
Do you stack 8 to stop the run?
Mystery run, and pass blitzes well disquised to confuse?
I was impressed with Jason and how he handled himself.
He showed a lot of pride and poise, looked very comfortable and confident had some exceptional reads.
I would suspect that in a real game we wont see that type of defensive scheme.
September 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 am
NO had some deep help from the safety on a few passes defended
1 bening the deflection INT in the end zone
there were a couple others too
DHB will have to earn defenses respect by catching the ball consistently
September 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Only Al Davis can manage to find a worse DC than John Marshall.
How does that man do it?
September 2nd, 2011 at 8:16 am
Terrapin,
Hagan, Ford, Moore, Dmac, Chaz, Murphy, Taiwan all are eliminated from “most improved” discussion because of injury or being new to the team.
DHB, improved and all, is still no better than the guys on that list.
September 2nd, 2011 at 8:18 am
Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Only Al Davis can manage to find a worse DC than John Marshall.
How does that man do it?
————————
It’s the scheme NOT the DC
September 2nd, 2011 at 9:02 am
Isn’t this article about Chaz and not DHB? why all the hate for a 3rd. yr. WR?? I guess most of you in here do not understand it takes players coming out of college at least 3 yrs. to get the position. Now if he does not produce this year than maybe all the negative talk will have validity!!
September 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 am
Not all WRs take “at least 3 years” to get the position.
Heck, I seem to remember all the other 1st round picks coming out in the same draft as DHB having more production in their first year than DHB has in 2 years combined. That’s why the hating. Because it’s felt that the other picks would’ve been much smarter.
Now that we have him, here’s to his improvements in the future!
September 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:27 am
Hey guys,Kevin Flynn is another MR!!!!!
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
# ohioraider Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
13.Yamacan Man Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 8:14 am
If Hue wants to build a bully, it will begin with him getting fired! Al makes the decisions because he knows Hue can’t coach as to the starters, and taking any directives from the owners box,Al tells his boy what to do!CABLE stood up to Al that’s why we won!. He has to roll his sleeves up and pimp hand the D co-ordinator and let him know how Al wants his schemes to proceed. It is that simple.
—————————————–
What I wouldn’t give to see Jackson get a call from Davis up in the box, and then see Hue shown out of the stadium FIRED!!. Camera zooms in on the old man:Laughing.
September 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
# guest123 Says:
September 2nd, 2011 at 6:56 am
Here’s why Chuck B is going to succeed:
We are going to continue to have a couple of good plays and then 3rd and long, Bam! big gainer, 20+ yards. Just like that, other team’s in scoring position. Then stop, nother stop…then Bam! TD other team.
this is a preview of Chuck B’s defense.
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