Raiders roster moves revealed … by someone other than Raiders
By Steve Corkran
Saturday, September 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders still haven’t announced their roster moves in reducing from 80 players to the league-mandated 53.
That’s OK. We went the extra mile to unearth the list of players. Here are the players who got waived or terminated (Note: Shawn Bayes and Roy Schuening were waived/injured):
Player Position Experience
Trent Edwards Quarterback 5
Louis Rankin Running back 3
Manase Tonga Fullback 1
Shaun Bodiford Wide receiver 4
Shawn Bayes Wide receiver 1
Chad Jackson Wide receiver 3
Eddie McGee Wide receiver Rookie
Kevin Brock Tight end 1
Daniel Loper Offensive line 7
Alex Parsons Offensive line 1
Roy Schuening Offensive line 2
Mason Brodine Defensive end Rookie
Tommie Hill Defensive end 1
Jamie Cumbie Defensive tackle Rookie
Derrick Hill Defensive tackle Rookie
Chris Francis Linebacker Rookie
Bani Gbadyu Linebacker Rookie
Jeremy Leman Linebacker 2
Sam Williams Linebacker 9
Walter McFadden Cornerback 2
Sterling Moore Cornerback R
Lito Sheppard Cornerback 10
Jeremy Ware Cornerback 2
Stevie Brown Safety 2
Matt Giordano Safety 7
Glenn Pakulak Punter 3
*QB Terrelle Pryor Quarterback Rookie
* He is serving a five-game suspension and doesn’t count against the 53-man roster
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September 3rd, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Anyone home?
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
By Trent. See ya in a week.
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
wow loper
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
YES!!!
Sam Williams is out of Football!
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Sam Williams is cut?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last of the old scholarship players.
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
It’s actually not bad. the only player I disagree with is Sterling Moore and maybe Lito Sheppard. I think DVD needs more time learning before being thrown in.
Could’ve done without Nick Miller & Michael Bennett.
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Someone do a count, are we at 53 exactly?
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Wand,Miller,Bennet,Gordon? Didn’t see these guys sticking. Gordon could of ben put on Practice squad
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Who’s left at CB?
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Who is the most tendered Raider non kicker now that Easy Money is gone? Routt?
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Lito will be back after week one !
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Should’ve dropped Bennett and kept Moore. All others are fine by me… Schuening is unfortunate though.
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Al davis must have something up his sleeve
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Wow 4 Tight Ends.
Seven WR.
5 Tailbacks.
WTF
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
@13 probably.
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Boy I tell you, Hue must have some serious Clout in the personal dept. Inorder to cut Sam Davis Williams
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Shocked we didnt keep Palulak if we were keeping M. Benett
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Sam Williams will accept a position on the coaching staff a be paid via Pell Grant.
September 3rd, 2011 at 6:59 pm
I believe Lil Nicky was kept for punts and kick offs for now till our WR’S get healthy Coach dont want to risk D.Moore back there right now?
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Giordano looked better than both Boyd or Brown this preseason… but even if he stuck, S depth would have been a concern with Mitchell injured.
Moore will make it to the practice squad. I’m sure not too many teams are blown away with Moore outplayed some of the other backup Raider CBs.
Bennett sticking is puzzling.
Four TEs is excessive, but at least Gordon and Meyers have special teams value.
LB depth… non-existent. The Raiders need to make a move there. Zac Diles could be a fit here. The Raiders were looking at Brashton Satele as a UDFA last season, maybe they give him another look?
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Lil Nickey will get cut when Pryor come aboard. Maybe Gordan will be used as short yardage fullback.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Blackstock and Bruce davis did look the best for back up LB we had to choose from and play Boyd also when needed LB/Saftey?
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Why did we keep bennet??
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
These two responses from Hue’s transcript says it all. The Raiders are working on some deals to bring in a few players.
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Q: Does the delay in announcing the roster moves have anything to do with you making calls about trades?
A: “As you know, this is a process. And as I told you, we’re just going to continue to uncover every opportunity that we can to get this team better. Obviously, there’s nothing that’s totally in ink just yet. The league didn’t say it all had to be there right this second. We know that there’s deadlines that we need to adhere by but we are always trying to make this team better.”
Q: Would it surprise you if the 53-man roster revealed tonight is the same for the opener at Denver?
A: Um, no. It wouldn’t surprise me. It wouldn’t surprise me, not one bit. But again, you never know. We’ll continue to go through our process to make sure we get this team as good as we can get it before we play Denver.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Hells,
it’s always juvenile to not make an argument on a post, and instead just name-call.
Bush 243 lbs 658 yds, 8 TDs, 4.1 avg
Tolbert 243 lbs 735 yds, 11 TDs, 4.0 avg
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Loper makes sense ’cause he was going to be making too much $$$ to ride the pine.
Kinda surprised Moore was cut, he was playing like our third best corner.
Kinda surprised Stevie Brown was cut, thought a spot was his when Eugene went down.
Still, I’d like to see those three plus Roy Schuening, Louis Rankin, and Manase Tonga on the practice squad.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
To many backs. Maybe little nickey and Bush get moved in a trade. 5 backs?
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Dude if you think Tolbert and Bush are on the same talent level you are on a good prescription.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Secret Sam?? Special Teams hero..
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Why was Moore cut and not Porter…..makes no sense.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
I think we will pick some vet LB or DB up Bennett or N.Miller on bubble none avaliable for practise squad. so you release guys you can grab right back on practise squad S.Moore. Mc Fadden, Ware So whaen you pick wire for a Vetran you can drop and add to 53 Roster.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Raiders have their official roster now on their website – all 53 players.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
You need two good backs to succeed. If they give DMAC the ball 350 times…then he’s got 2 years left in his career.
Bush is a starting caliber back that will get plenty of touches like last year.
When the raiders trot out Bennett and Jones…and things fall apart…don’t complain
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
lol Hells, still can’t come up with actual evidence, huh?
Well, there isn’t any, so I’m sure you’ll never. You’re looking at it with blinders.
4 yards a pop vs 4.1 yards a pop, more TDs for their guy, exact same size, neither contributes in passing game.
Oh wait, our guy has a huge metal rod in his leg.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Darn, Nick Miller need a little more dawg and a tad bit of confidence in him along with stop fumbling the ball and maybe he could contribute and be a special player. He has a good attitude. Just saying.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Who leads our special teams with Sam gone this year and Isaiah last year???
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Taiwan Jones has to prove he can do the pass protection thing…
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Nick Miller? Jones can return kicks, Ford can return kicks…and DHB SHOULD be returning kicks…Don’t need Nick Miller
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Alex you must be beat down from all our losing. Feel your pain. Guess we each have are own beliefs.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
DHB can’t catch..he’d muff every time.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
I shudder at DHB’s straight-line running and fumble-prone-ness trying to return kicks.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Omniscience
Agree Moore and McFadden to p squad, not sure if ware is eligible after the amount of pt he got last year
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Mr. Ware is injured/waived, so if no one claims him he goes to IR.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
WOW Nick Miller made it and DHagan, Rcihard Gordon was a very good move by this team along with DAusberry Gordon is a big physical player And Ausberry. They’ll probably waive Nick Miller when Murphy is healthy
I love the Oline we have it may not be as cogheive as it will be but the talent for a very good line is there.
Jarvis Moss was a steal off the scrap heap. I want Cumbie on the practice squad as well Sterling Moore.
I can’t believe they cut Edwards for Boller it must be a system and familiarity thing. Checkwa was a good keep the kid can play plus he he can double as a safety. The shocker was Boyd I thought he was indecisive and lacked instinct.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Would Al trade DMac for Clay Matthews? Would any of you guys make that trade. He (Matthews) is a USC guy, after all.
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I don’t know. Its sentimental to me. I have followed McFadden since his freshman year at Arkansas.
Matthews would be schemed much different in our defense so I am not sure he would be in the position to make the plays for us that he makes for GB.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:13 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Do we really want to trade Bush for a 30-year linebacker in Briggs. Without Bush, we have no real bruising backs.
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No. That would be asinine. The points you bring up are exactly right. Mike Bush has been healthy, has not been a problem, has run well, blocked well, caught well, and “fans” want to trade him (a skill player) for a LB with 9 years in? That would be plain silly.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Come on, Hells. At least for fun, give me a real argument on why Bush is any better than Tolbert.
Bring up his awesome 20 carry 47 yard effort when he had the chance to take over vs 49ers.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Ummmm…Steve, the cuts were on Raiders.com Transactions before Jerry MC Tweeted ‘em, before PFT put ‘em out, and so on.
Check the comments on your last story.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
I also don’t see the value in keeping Meyers. Boss, aussberry, and Gordon can hold it down
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Mr. Indepedence may be tooo fast to return kicks…lol
As for Mr. Ford, returning KO & punts and being a starting WR would be too much.
It was for the Kansas City great return specialist Dante Hall & Devin Hester. One can only run so many sprints in a day.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Seymour, the argument is legit.
That said, RBs are much easier to find than quality LBs.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Damn Al, Just throw me a bone man. Something. The preseason is over and I feel like crap, a dog with no place to drop a duece. Wheres the bone man.
Man I hope the Raiders go to Denver and pound some serious butt pirate on those donks. I hate Denver as much as I do the low rent Chargers and the low rent Chiefs.
I was at the game last night and did not like what I saw. Sch1t has got-to change by Monday Night in that dump of a mile high. It has got-to change.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Post #38 – DHB should be returning back from Starbucks with coffee for all the other players.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Chris Horton got cut by the Redskins.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
keeping miller b/c of injuries to murph and chaz.
keeping gordon as TE/FB. also, meyers could be dealt.
keeping bennett only makes sense if bush is on block.
wand is short term.
a FS coming soon.
another CB too.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
and another LB
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Yay, Priesttj is here! Now we’re going 11-5 for sure!
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
I’m not saying trade Bush for Briggs, infact I don’t even think Chicago has said they are willing to trade Briggs.
Raiders were willing to let Michael go for a 1st round selection, so there just might be a trade of some sort involving either Michael.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Nick Miller still on the team?,,,whose d–k is he sucking? I guess kicking the ball outa bounds on a kick return doesnt matter if you can run fast in Oakland.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Man, did you see Loper out there last night? Down right embarrassing.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
12-4!
Raiders 35 – Denver 10!
is all that matters now!
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I doubt Bush will re sign with us anyways. He wants to start somewhere and someone will pay him to do it.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I was a NMiller supporter but I fail to see why he wasn’t cut. The ONLY reason I can think of is that they don’t want to risk injury to Ford or D-WOW on a run-back. That’s the only reason I can think of and I’ll be the first to say that NMiller’s play this year so far was nothing to brag about. I actually felt he regressed this year.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Meyer might have been kept for his blocking.
Gordon missed a few blocks late in the game when Seattle was just overwhelming our O-line.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
44.priesttj Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm
I can’t believe they cut Edwards for Boller it must be a system and familiarity thing. Checkwa was a good keep the kid can play plus he he can double as a safety. The shocker was Boyd I thought he was indecisive and lacked instinct.
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Your probably still right about Boyd.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
alex7 Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Seymour, the argument is legit.
That said, RBs are much easier to find than quality LBs.
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Actually they’re not. Good skill RB’s are much harder to find. Mike Bush is a 245 lb guy that could probably go on “Dancing with the Stars” and win. He reminds me an awful lot of another guy that size with incredible feet. His name is Jerome Bettis. Those guys don’t come along that often.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Raiders should look at:
S Chris Horton
LB Zac Diles
LB Brashton Satele
And/or explore possible trade scenarios for:
CB Jabari Greer
LB Lance Briggs
LB Aaron Curry
LB Leroy Hill
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Loper embarrassed himself last night deep inour endzone, when Mr. Heyer had to try to block two guys to prevent a safety, and Loper embarrassed himself last week when he made a wimpy ass attempt of a block on that screen pass.
I knew he was going to get cut, and I warned you yesterday and this morning.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Shiloh Keo!
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Doubt the Bears will try to trade Briggs. They hold all the leverage in that situation. No reason to trade him this season.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
WOULD LOOK A
Will Allen CB
B Merriwether S
Caleb Claiborne LB
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Jhawk,
so few teams have a #1 back that touches it 250 times nowadays. Most teams are splitting their carries. I guess Bush maybe becomes the guy getting more carries, but I honestly think Raider fans overvalue Bush.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I don’t know I keep looking at the team on raiders.com and we are loaded at certain positions and really thin on others. I’m under the impression something big is about to happen.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Meriweather/harper for FS Tatupu/Dhani/Briggs for LB any good. Cbs available
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Any*
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
12-4!
Raiders 35 – Denver 10!
is all that matters now!
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Uh huh.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
shouldn’t trade bush
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
TheGeneral Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Why did we keep bennet??
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Versatility. Again Bennett can run, catch, and return kicks if need be. Same thing with Seth Wand. He can play any of the Oline positions.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I doubt Bush will re sign with us anyways. He wants to start somewhere and someone will pay him to do it.
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that just may be the Raiders’ thought process, Darren is a FA next year as well, we will need to pay him the big bucks, we cannot afford to pay both starters money [remember CJs new contract just upped the ante for premier rbs], we have no 2nd – 4th round picks next season, we will want to get something, and Mr. Independence for Taiwan is the real deal!
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Seymour,
regardless of how Bush “looks” to you, he averaged 4.1 yards a carry last season.
That is EASILY replaceable.
4 yards a carry is 4 yards a carry, be it at 243 pounds or 190 pounds.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
raiderjhawk Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I don’t know I keep looking at the team on raiders.com and we are loaded at certain positions and really thin on others. I’m under the impression something big is about to happen.
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Aside from running back, what position exactly are we loaded at?
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Chris Horton got cut by the Redskins.
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I always liked Chris Horton but he has not played in over a year due to injuries.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Mixed feelings about trading Bush. Need him around when McFadden inevitably gets hurt. I think his turf toe problems will be recurring.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
alex7 Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Seymour,
regardless of how Bush “looks” to you, he averaged 4.1 yards a carry last season.
That is EASILY replaceable.
4 yards a carry is 4 yards a carry, be it at 243 pounds or 190 pounds.
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You can’t just look at stats. Blitz blocking pickup is not a stat. If you had guys that ran better, but couldn’t block,and your Q was getting killed back there how do you value that?
Remember, Mike has only played 2 years, and he is looking better and better. You can’t just have one good back in this league any more. You have to have at least two or three.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Don’t worry Bush aint goin anywhere no matter what some say it aint the fans who value him it’s the owner…………..period
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Spartacus,
I think Jones can step in and produce.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
We got denarius moore, jacoby ford and taiwon jones returning kick. Why do we need nick miller. I think nick miller was given sam williams’ scholarship
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Mixed feelings about trading Bush. Need him around when McFadden inevitably gets hurt. I think his turf toe problems will be recurring.
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This is exactly right. I wouldn’t trade Mike. Not now. Unless Taiwan-on Jones comes in and immediately turns into Chris Johnson. And even then I wouldn’t do it.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Seymour some people think stats is all there is.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
LSU O=Line is wearing out the Ducks.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:33 pm
raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
We got denarius moore, jacoby ford and taiwon jones returning kick. Why do we need nick miller. I think nick miller was given sam williams’ scholarship
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Entirely possible but why. At least SWilliams was good on ST. NMiller has regressed this year so far.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm
raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
We got denarius moore, jacoby ford and taiwon jones returning kick. Why do we need nick miller. I think nick miller was given sam williams’ scholarship
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Al doesn’t want premium players returning kicks I guess.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
We got denarius moore, jacoby ford and taiwon jones returning kick. Why do we need nick miller. I think nick miller was given sam williams’ scholarship
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Jacoby Ford is becoming too valuable to return kicks. Punts maybe, kicks probably not. Moore and Jones have not proven they can do it and if anything happens to one of the backs (which is going to happen), you can’t have Jones return kicks. Again, it’s a versatility thing.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
The only way Bush should be traded is if in return the Raiders get a Pro Bowl-caliber defensive player who is under 28 years old in return. Which I don’t see happening.
Bush is more valuable to the Raiders than he is to any other team in the league.
If the Raiders are going to trade for someone, they don’t have much ammo outside of future picks. MAYBE Trevor Scott. But that’s a big maybe. I don’t think Louis Murphy has much trade value either.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
LSU gets ball back on ensuing KO. SEC, SEC, SEC.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Umm… regarding the title of this post.
The Raiders’ roster moves were reported by the Raiders on Raiders.com transaction page long before this post on your blog, or tweets by Jerry Mc, or PFT’s account.
Check Comment #111 on your last blog post (Hue Jackson’s Conference Call Transcript) and you’ll see the timeline documented.
The cloak & dagger stuff sounds great, but in this case, it just isn’t true. Sorry. Florio tried to say the same thing on PFT, but he’s wrong too…
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 pm
1 play and it’s 1st and goal LSU.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Its not like we needed an xtra wr. We should have kept Sam williams ovr nick miller. Sam williams was very solid on ST
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Faith is for getting into heaven, it doesn’t do s*** for sports fans except hurt their pockets and turn their brains into mush.
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It’s about the same for religious folks too.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Mr. Raider, i.e., Mr. Tim Brown returned punts most of his career.
but with the Mr. Murphy being out week 1 against Denver, Mr. Schilens’ progress {God only knows}, we just might need Mr. Miller for a week or two.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Mike Bush’s has EXTREME value later in games, with a lead, when you want to play conservatively, gain yardage, and keep the clock running. Defenses get real tired of seeing a 245 pounder smashing them. Again, that does not show up on a stat sheet. Unfortunately, the Raiders don’t have many 4th quarter leads tho.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm
TD LSU. 30-13
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Mr. Raider, i.e., Mr. Tim Brown returned punts most of his career.
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That’s what I said. Ford returning punts, maybe, kicks, probably not. Many more injuries on KR’s. How ’bout dem Oregon Ducks??
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I jus don’t get the too valuable to return kicks logic. Football is a violent sport regardless. That’s like sayin DMC is too valuable to play RB. Ford is a HUGE threat back there.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
The 3 Raiders with the most trade value are:
Mr. Bush – 1st round caliber trade value
Mr. Barksdale – 2nd round caliber trade value (OTs are a hot commodity in the NFL)
&
Mr. Lechler, he is the best punter in football, only teams that are a legit Super Bowl contender though would make a trade for him {minus Atlanta, they already took a second mortgage to draft Julio).
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
I remember AL rueing the day Tim Brown blew out his knee returning a punt. I know it is incongrous that Al let him continue to return punts for many more years after that – but that’s Al. He’d rather be right than consistent.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
the ONLY reason to keep a 5th back is if we’re trading bush. hey, what the problem here? a backup rb (as good as he is) is more valuable than a starting pro-bowl LB? make up ur minds guys. it’s smart to spin bush into another player and/or picks. taiwan looks great. dmac is awesome. bennett is a solid backup. plus u have rock. we have no other tradeable parts. our wr depth is hurt right now and none of them are proven anyway. maybe meyers for a 6th rounder.
i expect bush to be traded.
i expect wand to be replaced soon.
i expect miller to be replaced by pryor.
i expect meyers to possibly be dealt.
i expect porter to be replaced w/ a vet.
i expect a FS to be signed.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
to do all 3, WR, KOR/PR is not good for the player or the team
wears him out too much, becomes ineffective at all 3, it happened to Dante Hall and it happened to Hester
Let our best WR do what he does best, catch passes, run reverses, and return KOs (hopefully he will not be doing many of those).
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Nick Miller= the new Sam Williams
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
barks a 2nd round value? he was just drafted in the 3rd! gimme a break!
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I jus don’t get the too valuable to return kicks logic. Football is a violent sport regardless. That’s like sayin DMC is too valuable to play RB. Ford is a HUGE threat back there.
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Point well taken but,
Moore was brought in to play WR and is arguably our best WR.
Ford was drafted for a speed return guy but then we played the Chiefs at Arrowhead.
Taiwan is gonna be special. Just a matter of touches.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I jus don’t get the too valuable to return kicks logic. Football is a violent sport regardless. That’s like sayin DMC is too valuable to play RB. Ford is a HUGE threat back there.
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You are exactly right, it’s just there is just a much high percentage of major injuries that happen on kickoff returns than other plays. Which is why you don’t see Chris Johnson, Roddy White, or Reggie Wayne back there returning KO’s.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
107, I have to agree with each;
although Mr. Porter could be on the roster for special team purposes, he blocked the FG last night, and we do need a gunner to replace Mr. Eugene.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
yeah, porter i can deal with, i guess.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:50 pm
I think it came down to who was needed “Now” the most between N Miller and T Edwards until Pryor suspension is over.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Chris Francis didnt survive : (
but Barnes did, what a piece of crap Hue is..
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Nick Miller caught every pass thrown to him this preseason dum dums
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
The 3 Raiders with the most trade value are:
Mr. Bush – 1st round caliber trade value
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I would say the Raiders with trade value would be:
Trev Scott: good young pass rusher
Boller: has got NFL starting experience
Mario Henderson: can play, he just can’t play well.
L. Murphy: probably our best receiver right now.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
our LBs
OLB Wimbley, Groves (yes I have him 2nd string)
MLB McClain
OLB Davis, Blackstock
you know Rolando goes down, we’re screwed
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RR
Let me GUARANTEE you that no one in the NFL would trade a 1st rounder for Bush.
Quality RBs are too easy to find.
When guys like Chris Ivory, Peyton Hillis, Green-Ellis, Blount, Danny Woodhead, and Mike Goodson come out of nowhere to have big seasons,
you don’t trade a 1st rounder for an average NFL back.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Mario?
Thankfully he is not even on our roster, never even played for us this year in camp, he is a UFA and has been since his contract ended last winter.
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
anything more than a 4th is profit!
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Not too happy about our LB or CB situation – depth is horrible and the young guys are going to take a while to develop. Sterling Moore is a shocker; I thought he played better than all the other CB’s other than Routt. RT will continue to be a problem this year. We need to cut Bennett – I understand Cartwright because of the special teams ability and leadership he brings, but 5 is ridiculous…that has to change before the start of the season.
Nick Miller needs to go…he’s just not that good.
4 TE’s? Boss is still down and we need a veteran in there to start the year…wouldn’t be surprised if Myers gets dropped once Boss returns – Gordon is a better blocker and looks pretty decent as a receiver in a backup role. Ausberry will take a while to develop and Coach Davis will certainly give him every opportunity to do it.
We should take a peek at Merriweather and drop MM34 if he looks good – and we must add a versatile vet LB at a minimum – our LB depth is horrible.
The Chaz must go…Between DHB’s apparent improvement, the rise of Denarious Moore, and Jacoby Ford we’re set at starting WR’s and Hagan and Murphy are great 4th and 5th options. No reason to wait around for Shillens to get healthy…it’s chronic at this point.
September 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Mario?
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Sorry, Samson. My mistake. I am watching Oregon get crushed and trying to keep up. And not doing a very good job obviously.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Steve, your piece says, “The Raiders still haven’t announced their roster moves in reducing from 80 players to the league-mandated 53.”
This is not correct. The Raiders released their roster cuts at 6:30 last night on Raiders.com. In contrast, this article wasn’t published until 6:47.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
I see that two Rams players with value have been cut. Donnie Avery and Zach Diles would make excellent additions to our team. Avery is a quality receiver still and Diles is a perfect LBer for this squad.
Agreement?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I was surprised Loper was cut instead of Wand, but as long as we don’t have significant injuries inside it won’t matter. Miller is a very dependable receiver, but I don’t see us keeping 7 receivers. Keeping Bennent was a surprise, although I still think he has a spot in this league as a back up. These moves make me think we are considering trading a back or receiver to get another linebacker. Boyd needs to play better, hope we can get B. Merriwether. Obviously getting Briggs would be great, but I doubt Chicago would trade him unless we offered a number 1 and a young player. I was surprised #56 made the team and Bruce Davis was inconsistent. We really could use some depth at LB and Safety, if not a front line player via trade.
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