NFLN: Pryor to appeal after all
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 4th, 2011 at 10:06 am in Oakland Raiders.
Rookie quarterback Terrelle Pryor will appeal his five-game suspension handed down by commissioner Roger Goodell, according to the NFL Network’s Albert Breer.
No word on when that appeal will take place. The Raiders are currently carrying only two quarterbacks with the release of Trent Edwards Saturday.
Of the Raiders cuts Saturday, one has landed on his feet. Free safety Stevie Brown said on his Twitter account, “goodbye Oakland, hello Carolina.”
Brown played in more than nine games last season so he is not eligible for the practice squad, so the assumption is he is on the 53-man roster.
The Raiders practice at 12:30 p.m. today in Alameda, with media availability to following practice. Practice squad members could trickle back into the facility today, but chances are the Raiders won’t make any announcements until it is complete.
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September 4th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Steve Brown will not be missed.
Converted collegiate LB (who played on some of the worst Michigan defenses ever) who covered like a LB and tackled like a DB.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:08 am
At least Boyd tackles like a LB, and will smack you.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Boyd sucks. Pryor’s appeal a mixed bag.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Who’s more fragile: Schilens or MM34?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:11 am
I will be glad when the season finally starts.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
I hope Boyd really takes advantage of this opportunity and seize the backup SS spot.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Terrapin,
Tyvon Branch made 100+ tackles, 4 sacks, 1 forced fumble and a pick.
Plus he runs real fast.
He makes mistakes, but unlike too many players on this roster, he shows up and will make a play.
His production warrants his continued play on the field
September 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
MM34s biggest knock that I have heard is that he looks for the big hit instead of just doing what the situation calls for.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
You take a helmet to the knee and let’s see how ” Fragile” you are.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
-BHP’s MUP List-
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
(X)Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
(X)B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
(X)Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
(X)BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(X)Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
(IR)Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
(IR)Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Barksdale – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
(X)Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
(X)GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
(X)LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
(X)LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
(X)Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
(X)M Lonetree ; Trent Edwards – QB
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
(X)MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
No Mas Diamante ; DVD – CB
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
(X)Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
(X)Raiderman99 ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
(X)Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
(X)RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
(X)Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
(X)SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNBlackPA ; T.Jones – RB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(IR)YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
September 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Pryor will appeal the five week suspension?
About time.
Players almost always at least get the number of weeks reduced even if they still get the suspension.
Raiders only picked by 3 points at Denver first week say the oddmakers.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
OK. So now MM34 is fragile. LMAO! Where do you guys get this sht from?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Kirk Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 9:59 am
I expect Jason Campbell will get killed in the Denver game. Denver has a very good defensive line.
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Denver has 2 very good edge rushers in the rookie miller, and dummerville who is returning from injury, we will have our hands full passing no doubt. Both of these guys are sack machines…
Where we can attack denver is on the ground. they lost Ty Warren, and the MLD DJ william to injury in the preseason both will miss the opener…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:18 am
good morning jerry, we already know
you must be having some fun at that convention in oakland
September 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Biggest concern for the MNF opener is our tackles.
Veldheer led the NFL in penalties last year for an offensive lineman, and Barnes seems to be of the same ilk.
Both Denver’s edge rushers (Dumervil-Miller) are real fast, and Denver will have about 80K at the game creating some serious crowd noise.
I think that is the only area to where Denver can beat us. False-starts by our tackles creating and long situations, and having to use a silent-count due to crowd noise leaving our tackles vulnerable, and putting hits and forcing fumbles on Soup.
Avoid those perils, and we should be fine.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Steve Brown will not be missed.
Converted collegiate LB (who played on some of the worst Michigan defenses ever) who covered like a LB and tackled like a DB.
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Sums it up pretty well. Looked good last preseason, but it never translated to the field.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Dont like the Pryor appeal. He said he would sit and he should. I dont like Goodell and dont like what he did in letting him in the draft. Glad we got Pryor but he should have never been let in.
I would hit him with one more game for appealing.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
I’ll tell one guy who isn’t ” fragile” Desmond Bryant playing with a broken hand.Props right?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I’m feeling pretty good about my Desmond Bryant MUP pick.
He may not “win” it, but he will be much more productive than most on that list.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
R8dercain Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:35 am
.So where are those 7 wins going to come from…
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5-1 in the division
Miami w
cleveland w
buffalo w
minn w
jets w
that 89025 is 10 wins.
10-6
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I stand by this. Iron clad baby!!!
September 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Anyway. I’m done with the MM34 convo. Let him prove it on the field. You folks are a trip.
Injured player? – Cut ‘em
New player? – He will never develop, cut ‘em
Sad. I think you all play too many video games. And sadly I can see what Aaron Foster is talking about with his hatred of Fantasy Footall. Its lead to what I see as ppl rooting for players with instant gratification vs looking at the team and how it develops.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Suspension appeal means nothing, wont matter. Feeble attempt thats all. Just gives the NFL another opportunity to screw the Raiders. Any other of the 31 teams, Pryor probably gets the suspension dropped or reduced to a game or two. Raiders, bring out the ram rod and bend over. What else is new.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Former Patriots TE Lee Smith was claimed on waivers by Buffalo. Former Cowboys CB Josh Thomas claimed on waivers by Carolina.
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September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I’m feeling pretty good about my Desmond Bryant MUP pick.
He may not “win” it, but he will be much more productive than most on that list.
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come on JFB. You forgot about TJones!!!
Plus Desmond can’t be on that list…can he??
September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
I bet Goodell lowers the suspension by 1 game and gives the big FU to the players association.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Biggest concern for the MNF opener is our tackles.
Veldheer led the NFL in penalties last year for an offensive lineman, and Barnes seems to be of the same ilk.
Both Denver’s edge rushers (Dumervil-Miller) are real fast, and Denver will have about 80K at the game creating some serious crowd noise.
I think that is the only area to where Denver can beat us. False-starts by our tackles creating and long situations, and having to use a silent-count due to crowd noise leaving our tackles vulnerable, and putting hits and forcing fumbles on Soup.
Avoid those perils, and we should be fine.
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DMAC. MBUSH, TJ, and the OLINE from a running perspective will see lots of work…
Go on quick counts dont let them get settled…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
If the white coach Tressel can avoid a suspension and all of a sudden coach for the colts than Prior has every right to appeal .Period..ball in your court NFL
September 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
#21 True that!
September 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Plus Desmond can’t be on that list…can he??
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Nobody seemed to contest my selection.
He isn’t a starter, but I made the pick with the belief that some on the D-line will get nicked, and he will come from a rotational guy, to a spot starter who excels.
I like his game, and can’t knock the Ivy-league education either.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Carolina bring in guys to audition for a CB spot…
Brown not a lock to make the team…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I just think Pryor needs to show he has character. And I don’t think you do that by going back on your word. What’s he going to do for us in the first 5 weeks anyway? I’ll go hold that clipboard for free.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I went to Bob College and tattoo parlor and look at me. F Harvard
September 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Don’t let Denver get settled or rested…Go fast and hard and attack the soft middle with our run game…
Ground and pound, then hit them with the PA…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
27. Hard to argue that.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Don..Prior would be able to Practice with the team ..that it itself iS worth it
September 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
35.Yeah. Guess I’m just stuck on the character issue.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
SharkCatcher Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
If the white coach Tressel can avoid a suspension and all of a sudden coach for the colts than Prior has every right to appeal .Period..ball in your court NFL
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this I have to agree with. Rules should apply to coaches as well as players
pryor has every right. Exercise it!!
September 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
I bet Goodell lowers the suspension by 1 game and gives the big FU to the players association
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Should not have been suspended at all as the league has no real juristiction over college. Furthermore, the league did not suspend any players for issues that occured during the lockout. If Pryors suspesions happened during this time, this would also be cuase for dismisal…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
The Denver topic ..I just hope they don’t take a page from a few years ago and eat us up with Eddie Royal vs Van Dyke
September 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Seymour, Kelly, Routt, Wimbley, Jano, Lechler all have to play to their contracts.
That means those 6 should perform like ELITE top tier talent…not just avearge guys.
Too many AVERAGE performances from those 6 above.
They need to dominate
September 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
If the NFL chooses to stand tough on the issue they will likely lose in arbitration and re-open the can of worms.
It is now to the league’s benefit to lift the suspension and move on and that is just what they will do.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
MM34 played well in his role last year. Playing close to line on short yardage and goal line. Liked him on the blitz too. Hate to say it but I have never had less confidence in our defense going into our 1st game of season. How important is this 1st game? Go back the last 20 years, when we don’t win the 1st one we ALWAYS have a shty year
September 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Hue Jackson needs to put the players on the field that can most help the team win now! Not next year.,..and not 5 years from now…but right now.
Production must trump potential right now.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I picked Al Davis as MUP but it appears Al is not an actual player so I am thinking about my second choice.
Is everyone done changing theirs around?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Betting Pryors appeal is at Al’s blessing. Quite frankly, the Commish overstepped his boundaries imho and the players do have a cause for concern going forward in setting a precedant.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
At least Pryor waited till pre season was over he can focus on his appeal while the raiders focus on winning. I mean what else does the kid do he’s just sitting waiting for the suspension to end. And why is that couch not suspended for five games he lost his job over the same allegations
September 4th, 2011 at 10:34 am
I was suprised that rookies can be MUP’s but I dont think I will pick a rookie
September 4th, 2011 at 10:34 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
OK. So now MM34 is fragile. LMAO! Where do you guys get this sht from?
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I don’t know. I guess because he is a football player, practice and games started, and we haven’t seen him in a while.
But maybe its 1987 and he’s finishing his stretch run with the Royals before he joins us in Week 6.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
What’s the MUP list?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Also, I chuckle when people say trade this guy or that guy because we can EASILY replace him.
Have you all been paying attention the last 20 years?
Took 20+ years to find a replacement to Todd Christqnsen
Took almost 10 years to replace Garner
Never have really found that safety since 2001…
how long to find a decent left tackle?
You have a player(s) that produce right now….you hold on to them.
Especially those who think replacing Bush would be easy….B.S
September 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
Guess I’m just stuck on the character issue.
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Me Too. The kid told us that he was just happy the NFL gave him the opportunity to be eligible for the Supdraft. Maybe 5 weeks is too long, but I think he should just be humble, and live w/it at this point.
The Raiders cannot afford this kind of distraction. There is already serious concern about this kid, and this just makes it worse imo.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
R8 prediction of which player on our squad will have the biggest impact ..MUP most underrated player
September 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
See #10 Big Teds MUP list
September 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
So every player who misses time with an injury is fragile. Good to know.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
I can mitigate dummerville, and von miller by putting in TJ, and DMAC in the backfield with JCAMPBELL in the shotgun…. I got 2 very fast players to throw screens to will these spped rushers leave my edge open…
I can also run from this formation…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
The Commish screwed up letting him into the draft. Personally I wouldn’t have let him in. But I’m glad we are the ones that got him. They just screwed the college ranks by letting him in. Now guys think they can get in trouble and walk away to join the NFL without have to be accountable.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Carolina claimed former Rams defensive end George Selvie on waivers today.
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And another confirmed waiver claim of a former Patriot. RT @ProFootballTalk: Bengals claim Brandon Tate on waivers.
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September 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Thec,
TJ has to prove he can pass protect. If he can’t do that then he’s nothing more than a gadget player.
A strong running attach will mitigate that pass rush…run DMAC and Bush
September 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
The Commish screwed up letting him into the draft. Personally I wouldn’t have let him in. But I’m glad we are the ones that got him. They just screwed the college ranks by letting him in. Now guys think they can get in trouble and walk away to join the NFL without have to be accountable.
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On what grounds does the NFL have of suspending him?
He was not an NFL player?
The NFL is not imposing penalties on any playes during the lockout. He should have never been suspended.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
If Hue is concerned about Von Miller, all he has to do is pop in the tape of Miller’s very last game at Texas A&M.
He was shut down by 504’s choice on the MUP list.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
The thing with Pryor is that the commish (right or wrong) believes Pryor INTENTIONALLY did things illegally in college to make himself eligible for the sup draft, thus undermining the process.
His original 5 game suspension would not have made him eligible for the sup draft, so he went into the NCAA’s office and admitted to other things to try to get himself completely ineligible for college, thus making him eligible for the sup draft.
Really a sleezy move on his part, IMO, but owners don’t have a patent on sleezy moves I guess.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Thec,
TJ has to prove he can pass protect. If he can’t do that then he’s nothing more than a gadget player.
A strong running attach will mitigate that pass rush…run DMAC and Bush
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Thec07 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Don’t let Denver get settled or rested…Go fast and hard and attack the soft middle with our run game…
Ground and pound, then hit them with the PA…
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Thats pretty obvious to ME Snb as permy quote above. i was isung TJ as another example on how we can attack the Denver pash rush.Furthermore, in the sitution i proposed, I would not expect TJ to pick up a blitz on a screen play…As i would be throing to him….
September 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
rediaR Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
So every player who misses time with an injury is fragile. Good to know.
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OK you win. Chaz Schilens is Cal Ripkin Jr.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Thec
Not saying they have any right to suspend him. I don’t think he should have ever been let in. But he made a deal wrong or right and should live up to it.
I hate the crap that the commish pulls. I’m not defending the NFL at all. II think Goodell needs to go. He thinks he’s bigger than the game and is destroying football.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
The thing with Pryor is that the commish (right or wrong) believes Pryor INTENTIONALLY did things illegally in college to make himself eligible for the sup draft, thus undermining the process.
His original 5 game suspension would not have made him eligible for the sup draft, so he went into the NCAA’s office and admitted to other things to try to get himself completely ineligible for college, thus making him eligible for the sup draft.
Really a sleezy move on his part, IMO, but owners don’t have a patent on sleezy moves I guess.
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A lawyer could still argue that;
1. it is out of the NFL’s jurstiction that he exploited a loop hole.
2. The NFL was locked out. The NFL is not suspending players during this time.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
504 Raider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
rediaR Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
So every player who misses time with an injury is fragile. Good to know.
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OK you win. Chaz Schilens is Cal Ripkin Jr.
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Was targeted more at Mitchell. Chaz has proven to be nothing but fragile.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
A lawyer could still argue that;
1. it is out of the NFL’s jurstiction that he exploited a loop hole.
2. The NFL was locked out. The NFL is not suspending players during this time.
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No doubt, and I believe Pryor and his team would win in court.
Although, it probably wouldn’t pass through the courts by week 6 anyways.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Can’t wait to see the trades and pickups the Raiders do starting today (hopefully)/
September 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
No doubt if they run the ball that will wear down Denver’s pass rush and play into our hands. But you aslo have to assume Denver knows this so they will stack the box early. Its all about who executes better.
You guys haven’t only seen glimspes of this offense. Most of what you saw in the preseason was plain vanilla. There may have been only 1 series for the N.O., SF and AZ games where you saw this offense in a truer form. It O during these series was awesome and WITHOUT its premier weapon – DMC! You all haven’t seen anything yet.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
No doubt, and I believe Pryor and his team would win in court.
Although, it probably wouldn’t pass through the courts by week 6 anyways.
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Agreed,with our current court system would not get on the docket until 2012…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
RediaR,
I know you were referring to MM34. But he is showing a history here of injuries in camp and pre-season just like Schilens.
DMAC is injury prone too but gets a pass in my book because he broke a 1,000 last season. He’s got skins on the wall. MM34 and Schilens don’t have such skins.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
No doubt if they run the ball that will wear down Denver’s pass rush and play into our hands. But you aslo have to assume Denver knows this so they will stack the box early.
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This would be a dream scenario in my opinion, as JCAMBELL has gotten better with his reads, and so has our WR’s…Still romm for improvement however, i liked what i saw in the no game…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
John Fox is a helluva of a defensive coach and schemer. One of the best in the biz.
I doubt we will be able to just line up and do whatever we want with them like we did last year.
Not to mention Denver threw a pick 6 on their first play in Denver last year, than fumbled on their 10 yard line on the next play.
This will be a much tougher game than the 2 Denver games last year, but I still think we will prove a tad more talented than them.
Raiders 27 Denver 20
September 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Suspend Jon Condo!
I seriously cannot believe that turd is stealing a spot on the 53 for another year…
September 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Wishing for 10-6 season or better!!!
September 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
The problem is with the NCAA, not the NFL.
The NCAA should start with recruting kids who understand and are willing to play given the “compensation” of just a college degree and room & board.
Kids that think that’s a lousy bargain should not be in college..period.
The NFL should be held accountable for developing a viable professional development league so that kids who have no intereset, or aptitude for college can have a viable way to the pros
September 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Mitchell has yet to miss an NFL game, but he has gotten hurt each of his 3 training camps, thus stunting his growth.
Can’t have that happen next year.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
This would also apply to the NBA.
The idea that kids have to go to college to play pro-ball is ridiculous.
Should adopt the development leagues they have for Canadian hockey and for European football
September 4th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Players from Maryland reek.
They should be in Div. II.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Suspend Jon Condo!
I seriously cannot believe that turd is stealing a spot on the 53 for another year…
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That talk is played out – try another player, please?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Absurd hyprocracy for everyone involved with using colleges as the developmental league for professional sports.
If baseball can do it…and hockey can have a path…so should football and basketball.
Terrell Pryor probably had no business in college to begin with
September 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
I think I might have to borrow the B@uce’s swinging pipe…
Anyone know Condo’s address?
September 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
SNB
Good point. But it would kill college football and it makes to much money to do that. I hear you though.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Chances are the MUP will be an offensive player and Moore would be a good choice. I like DVD too but they are both rookies
September 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Think about it….
Assuming that most elite football and basketball athletes are on average not the best students (my assumption)….
One would think that the schools with lower admissions standards would have the best teams….
Most of these schools are elite colleges and universities. Truth is, Ohio State, Florida, Michigan, Cal, USC should have teams looking more like Harvard, Cornell and Rice.
But everyone is in on the joke that is college sports
September 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Wasting a roster spot on a player who only snaps is a disgrace. Pointing this out is never played.
I would be saying this for any dedicated longsnapper who has no skills to play a real position.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
I have the whole NCAA, pay-the players riddle solved.
You need a NFL minor league system, ideally the UFL. Let the UFL take players of any age, so if a HS kid wants to go to the UFL instead of college he can. UFL guys make anywhere from 40K to a million bucks.
Now the tricky part. As it stands now, the NFL can pick up UFL players at any time, they just have to buy them out. You still keep this true for players aged 21 or older. However for those younger, just so elite HS kids don’t just “go” to the UFL for a quick song than go straight to the NFL to the highest bidder, make those under 21 have to wait for the next years sup draft. Than if a team wants a 19 year old phenom, he is drafted and not sold to the Jerry Jones’ of the world.
Problem-solved.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:01 am
I’m glad Pryor is appealing his suspension, Goodell didn’t have any right suspending him unless the NFL is saying that the NCAA is now their farm league. Tressel gets a job with the Colts and that’s okay but Pryor has to sit out 5 games?
Another stupid move by Goodell.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Bo you have got to be Condo’s blood kin.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Another stupid move by Goodell.
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Yep…
September 4th, 2011 at 11:04 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
SNB
Good point. But it would kill college football and it makes to much money to do that. I hear you though.
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And college football should be killed…at least this view of it.
Or everyone just admit to the gross hyprocracy and leave kids like Pryor alone…kids who never had an interest in college and a university that probably only half cared if he got an education to begin with
Admit its a joke
True college sports are at the D2, D3 and Ivy League…levels where there is no expectation of pro ball.
But the delusional American public won’t give them the time of day.
Big freekn joke.
Pryor should not be suspended at all.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:04 am
There is rules to whether players are eligible for the sup draft or not.
There is no such rules for fired NCAA coaches.
Pryor undermined the rules, and Tressel had no rules to undermine.
Right, wrong or indifferent, the two situations are mutually exclusive.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
I have the whole NCAA, pay-the players riddle solved.
You need a NFL minor league system, ideally the UFL. Let the UFL take players of any age, so if a HS kid wants to go to the UFL instead of college he can. UFL guys make anywhere from 40K to a million bucks.
Now the tricky part. As it stands now, the NFL can pick up UFL players at any time, they just have to buy them out. You still keep this true for players aged 21 or older. However for those younger, just so elite HS kids don’t just “go” to the UFL for a quick song than go straight to the NFL to the highest bidder, make those under 21 have to wait for the next years sup draft. Than if a team wants a 19 year old phenom, he is drafted and not sold to the Jerry Jones’ of the world.
Problem-solved.
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Exactly….Create a real minor league system…
Agree with SNB on the hypocriticality of the NCAA…
September 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Wasting a roster spot on a player who only snaps is a disgrace. Pointing this out is never played.
I would be saying this for any dedicated longsnapper who has no skills to play a real position.
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Yawn……..
September 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
JFB,
I would make it even simpler…just allow any kid to enter the draft…18 years old or whatever….and if the kid is picked up…let the team send him to the developmental league (your UFL) where they own the rights etc.
Let’s just let the cream rise to the top and stop degrading the college system
September 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:34 am
I was suprised that rookies can be MUP’s but I dont think I will pick a rookie
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if a player ws drafted in a later round an could have possibly slipped thru the cracks
this makes him “underrated” thus putting him as an MUP candidate
comprende mi amigo
September 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
http://raiderway.wordpress.com/2011/09/04/breaking-down-the-53/
September 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
^^My opinion on the 53
September 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
The Semi pros have officially solved the problem…
September 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
I have the whole NCAA, pay-the players riddle solved.
You need a NFL minor league system, ideally the UFL. Let the UFL take players of any age, so if a HS kid wants to go to the UFL instead of college he can. UFL guys make anywhere from 40K to a million bucks.
Now the tricky part. As it stands now, the NFL can pick up UFL players at any time, they just have to buy them out. You still keep this true for players aged 21 or older. However for those younger, just so elite HS kids don’t just “go” to the UFL for a quick song than go straight to the NFL to the highest bidder, make those under 21 have to wait for the next years sup draft. Than if a team wants a 19 year old phenom, he is drafted and not sold to the Jerry Jones’ of the world.
Problem-solved.
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Or just at least three years out of highschool (same as when they go to college) and then they are eligible to enter the draft. That way they aren’t just auto-free agents on their 21st b-day.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Former Bears RB Chester Taylor has agreed to a deal with the Arizona Cardinals.
4 minutes ago
September 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Well then maybe the NFL should have minor league teams and draft kids out of high school and college and run them through there farm league. Kid out of high school have to stay down until they are 21.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Absurd hyprocracy for everyone involved with using colleges as the developmental league for professional sports.
If baseball can do it…and hockey can have a path…so should football and basketball.
Terrell Pryor probably had no business in college to begin with
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Is “The Ohio State University” actually a college? Kids learn there? Huh…didn’t know that.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:09 am
With a professional developmental league, those kids that have no business in college have a path of least resistance and can get PAID
The colleges should restore their admissions standards to reflect the mission of their schools.
Kids who can play ball, but want to go to school too, can still go and play and develop. But all the nonsense about money etc..is swept aside.
Other kids will know they have to raise their standardds if they want a chance to play college ball
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
College football is beast, they won’t let the best up and comers go pro without getting theirs.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
I comprende. Is that why Wisniewski is on the list?
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Well then maybe the NFL should have minor league teams and draft kids out of high school and college and run them through there farm league. Kid out of high school have to stay down until they are 21.
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Why do they have to stay down until they are 21.
Football is not rocket science…its not the military…where REAL FREEKN work gets done in REAL PRESSURE situations..by 18 year olds.
ITs football…a kids game…not a place for Nobel Prize winners
If Al Davis wants to trot out a 19 year old CB that is 6′3 and runs a 4.2 40…why should he have to wait two extra years.
Stop the hyprocricy. Its freekn sports
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Waaay too much money made there.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Lot of good young players geting pick off before the practice squad is even established…niners pick up a good who te chargers thought they were going to hide on the PS…QB Scott Tolzien…
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Sharkcatcher
Naw I got us losing one to either SD or KC, don’t know who yet. Im leaning toward it being SD because Cassel is mediocre IMO and we contained their running game last year
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
NFL will refuse to even hear the appeal based on Pryor not filing it on time.
Believe Pryor had 72 hour window to file once he signed and appeared on the roster.
That’s a little murky and open to interpretation, but Goodell and Co. will refuse on that basis. After that the NFLPA would have to step in.
From listening to Pryor’s earlier comments about not appealing and just being happy he was given an opportunity to enter the supplemental, I get the feeling the snake Rosenhaus was pleading with league officials for Pryor’s supp eligibility and was advised they’d allow it but a suspension would be inevitable. Pryor was probably glad to know he wouldn’t have to go a full year without getting the green, and eagerly agreed to Rosenhaus’s ‘negotiations’ with the league office on his behalf.
Just speculation, but how else can you explain Pryor not appealing immediately ?
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Lots of NFL activity going on right now….
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
“Hypocrisy”
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
BigTed707,
can I get a MUP list mulligan?
I’ll take Stephon Heyer.
(when asked which Raider he’d least like to meet in a dark alley, TKelly responded, “Stephon Heyer”. good enough for me.)
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
NCAAB learned their lesson not too long ago.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I must say. Football having a farm system humm
or the kid can choose college.
Staying down til 21
at any rate there has to be a draft first.
Drafting kids out of high scholl sending them to the farm league
naww it won’t work
just don’t see it happening.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Matt Kemp just pissed on a pitch. MVP!MVP!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Suspend Jon Condo!
I seriously cannot believe that turd is stealing a spot on the 53 for another year…
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Okay, so let us know who else on the roster can reliably long-snap (not an easy thing to do).
I’m waiting…
September 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
raideredoutL.A. Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Waaay too much money made there.
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Then admit its about the money and move on. I HATE hearing holier than thou officials talking about the integrity of amateur athletics.
Then they recruit kids who barely have a high school education to their elite universities.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Two weeks ago Pryors lawyer files letter to retain rights to appeal.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/04/pryors-decision-to-appeal-remains-unclear/
September 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
“barely an 8th grade education”
September 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
I comprende. Is that why Wisniewski is on the list?
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wow wiz 2.0 is on that list. Ya he was not underrated. Less someone here felt he should have gone in the first rd
September 4th, 2011 at 11:18 am
r8dercain Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I must say. Football having a farm system humm
or the kid can choose college.
Staying down til 21
at any rate there has to be a draft first.
Drafting kids out of high scholl sending them to the farm league
naww it won’t work
just don’t see it happening.
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But sending some kid from an extremely poor background with an 8th grade reading level to Michigan or USC makes sense?
September 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Pryor said he would appeal if Al Davis wanted him to. Looks like Al Davis wanted him to.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:22 am
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Like we said, initial rosters are not final rosters. RT @RichCimini: Jets waive Maybin, Tevaseu, Trufant, place McElroy on IR.
5 minutes ago
September 4th, 2011 at 11:24 am
119.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
raideredoutL.A. Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Waaay too much money made there.
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Then admit its about the money and move on. I HATE hearing holier than thou officials talking about the integrity of amateur athletics.
Then they recruit kids who barely have a high school education to their elite universities.
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They’re a business. They’ll look out for theirs and use every ploy and tactic to keep them profitable.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:26 am
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
so, basically reserving the right to still appeal at this point “@espn_afcwest: Schefter has Pryor appeal update – http://es.pn/ogSZaG”
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 11:26 am
People usually never admit what their true intentions are. Gov., NCAA, etc.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:27 am
You have to have a certain GPA to attend college
if they have the grade then they attend the college
can’t fake a high school GPA NO high Schiller in this country would do that
September 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Sorry high school in ths country
September 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Its not just the universities/NCAA…its us..the American People.
All full of it if you ask me. If the universities, and the high school coaches and parents would hold higher standards..like having to maintain a legit GPA and behavior standards…our society would be bette off.
But alas we have what we have and the line of thinking that drives the NCAA and pro sports is a smaller part of a larger issue that has this country in PERMANENT DECLINE!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Steve can you make the blog open external links in another tab or window? It is rather frustrating having to right click a link every time. Thanks!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
r8dercain Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:27 am
You have to have a certain GPA to attend college
if they have the grade then they attend the college
can’t fake a high school GPA NO high Schiller in this country would do that
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Seriously. You think a 2.1 GPA at some crummy rural or inner city school should qualify one to attend Michigan?
I also will bet a dollar that elite players receive “help” with that GPA in both high school and university
September 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
#131 Couldn’t have said it better!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
134.noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
#131 Couldn’t have said it better!
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SnB is the real deal.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
lets pu pats safety
September 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Big Ted or whoever else manages the MUP list, please put me down for Denarius Moore.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Seriously. You think a 2.1 GPA at some crummy rural or inner city school should qualify one to attend Michigan?
I also will bet a dollar that elite players receive “help” with that GPA in both high school and university
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yes that’s y they have tutors!!
But I would think as long as you continue to educate urselfat yhe institute of higher learning
y deny some one a chance to better educate themselves
September 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Raiders number changes: @TaiwanJonesNFL will now wear 22, @D_VanDyke8 has switched to 23 and @_JeromeBoyd_ will wear 30
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I like their old numbers better.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
mikeschoice Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
lets pu pats safety
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Too late he is allready picked up..Bears…
September 4th, 2011 at 11:38 am
139.YoungAmerican Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Raiders number changes: @TaiwanJonesNFL will now wear 22, @D_VanDyke8 has switched to 23 and @_JeromeBoyd_ will wear 30
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I like their old numbers better.
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They wanted the numbers to reflect what there field performance will likely be. TJone 22 yards a carry. DVD get burned 23 times a game.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:39 am
“Schefter reports that when Pryor made a deal with the NFL to be declared eligible for the supplemental draft, he was told that the only way he would be allowed in would be to serve a five-game suspension.”
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Makes sense. Only way to explain not filing an appeal immediately and Pryor’s wavering and deference to Goodell.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:39 am
wonder who will wear #21
September 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
R8dercain,
That kid should not be at Michigan because he can play ball.
He should be at a less academically rigorous school….if he is truly interested in pursuing an education and not concerned about getting paid for his college football performance.
If Michigan is not admitting 2.1 GPA students anywhere else, they shouldn’t be doing it because the kid will pack a 100,000 seat stadium.
Kid comes in there ill-prepared with no money and is expected to roll in an atmosphere of privilege….
Set up a minor league system…have the kid with the 2.1 go to junior college…and come apply after a year or two there
September 4th, 2011 at 11:43 am
But the reality is the Michigan isn’t willing to give up on packed stadiums every week.
Whereas Harvard and Yale are….
September 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
I agree with you all that the system won’t change. ITs just such a patent joke its laughable when they want to suspend Pryor as if he is an anomoly.
To be true though, Pryor is a jerk for willingly breaking the rules he knew about and throwing his teammates under the bus. That’s not very good character given that there are kids in military putting up with 1000x more and getting nothing but a handshake.
Hopefully the kid learns from this (which is what life is all about) and fullfills the trust Al Davis has put into him
September 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora
Patriots have formally announced the signing of G Brian Waters
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Raider announced signing of……
All the holes we have and WE cant find anyone worth bring in?
September 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I would like to change my MUP to Carson Palmer.
Before he’s even on the roster.
I’m predicting that just when everyone is speculating about a trade for defensive help, Al Davis does the unthinkable and looks to replace the ‘unquestioned starter’ JaJason.
Once Carson shows up in Cincy demanding his 11 million, there’s going to be a quick exit – and Palmer will be Oakland bound. Might even see a straight trade for JaJason with Boeller holding down the fort til Palmer can step in.
Don’t believe Palmer is sitting out a year or retiring and there’s no other owner that’s going to turn things upside down so close to the start of the season besides the Old Man.
Palmer is probably done, and I think he was always overrated – but he’d still be an improvement over JaJason.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Can’t wait to see MNF and what Hue will unleash on Denver. Barring a ton of penalties and turning the ball over we should at least score 20.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
149. Your nuts
September 4th, 2011 at 11:58 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
149. Your nuts
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My man SnB is usually on point however, he lost me on this one…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Question on the MUP picks, its to late for guys to change right???
September 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
There’s no such player on the Oakland Raiders named JaJason-
remember that!
September 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
# Thec07 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Question on the MUP picks, its to late for guys to change right???
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Naw,
WED. the 7th is the final day – there are still moves to be made hopefully.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
The reason that it is difficult to establish an NFL minor league is the great potential for a player to get hurt and the large size of the rosters. NFL had the Europe league until that became a burden. It is not a cost effective measure for them to establish it especially when they have the NCAA for free and their CBA allows them to do unconstitutional things such as establish a salary cap put age restrictions on entering the league and the draft itself
September 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Teams that would be willing to trade a 2nd round pick for Mr. Bush:
Miami, Indianapolis, Green Bay, Dallas
these are 4 teams that are not really solid at the RB position, with 3 of them viable palayoff/Super Bowl contenders.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
39.SharkCatcher Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
The Denver topic ..I just hope they don’t take a page from a few years ago and eat us up with Eddie Royal vs Van Dyke
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DVD won’t start and DMOORE will return that favor for us with 4rec 120yds 2tds.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Would like to see Briggs come in. But I dont want to give up Bush or a first to get him.
Maybe if Hue can get Briggs here and show him the video about the greatness of the Raiders he would pay to come here hence improving our cap number.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
for those that do not want us to trade away Michael Bush, understand that BOTH Bush & McFadden are UNRESTRICTED free agents next season.
We will lose one and get nothing in return if we do not make a trade.
We cannot afford to pay both $5 to $10 million a year.
with CJs new contract now franchise tag for an RB will be about 8-9 million I believe.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Raiders depth chart has yet to be updated.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Carolina picks up Seyi Ajirotutu cut by chargers.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
NFL will refuse to even hear the appeal based on Pryor not filing it on time.
Believe Pryor had 72 hour window to file once he signed and appeared on the roster.
That’s a little murky and open to interpretation, but Goodell and Co. will refuse on that basis. After that the NFLPA would have to step in.
From listening to Pryor’s earlier comments about not appealing and just being happy he was given an opportunity to enter the supplemental, I get the feeling the snake Rosenhaus was pleading with league officials for Pryor’s supp eligibility and was advised they’d allow it but a suspension would be inevitable. Pryor was probably glad to know he wouldn’t have to go a full year without getting the green, and eagerly agreed to Rosenhaus’s ‘negotiations’ with the league office on his behalf.
Just speculation, but how else can you explain Pryor not appealing immediately ?
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Because Davis is behind the latest move that’s all. Typical “maverick” bs from a guy who ought to have other problems to solve. Pryor not going to get this team into the playoffs this year. What a joke.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
BigTed707 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
# Thec07 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Question on the MUP picks, its to late for guys to change right???
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Naw,
WED. the 7th is the final day – there are still moves to be made hopefully.
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Yeah, let the guys who whiffed to get a second chance…Put an asterisk by the names of those who got a second chance…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Terrelle Pryor may have notified the league about his intention to appeal his suspension, there remains doubt about whether it will happen.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Pryor’s lawyer David Cornwell filed a letter to appeal two weeks ago without talking to Pryor, Pryor’s agent, or the NFLPA. Furthermore, Cornwell’s letter reportedly just reserves the right to appeal.
In the meantime, Cornwell has sadly suffered a stroke. He hasn’t spoken with Pryor about the decision to appeal. Pryor hasn’t granted his approval for any appeal to move forward.
Pryor told the NFL he wouldn’t appeal the suspension when he was allowed to be drafted.
“The feeling is Cornwell won’t proceed without Pryor’s consent, though some players around the leauge would like to see an appeal,” Schefter reports.
In short: This is a mess, with a lot of conflicting interests from Pryor to Cornwell to the NFLPA.
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Not sure where Mr. Davis fits in…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
160.RaiderRetribution Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
for those that do not want us to trade away Michael Bush, understand that BOTH Bush & McFadden are UNRESTRICTED free agents next season.
We will lose one and get nothing in return if we do not make a trade.
We cannot afford to pay both $5 to $10 million a year.
with CJs new contract now franchise tag for an RB will be about 8-9 million I believe.
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If the emphasis is to win now then you keep both for this yr and use whatever cap space available for someone on defense right about now.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
12:30 practice today for the team.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Mr. Independence is too fast for #36; his new jersey number is 22!
Mr. VanDyke has been changed to 23 (from 38) and Mr. Boyd from 40 to 30.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Snb
If u don’t think soldiers get paid enough take that up with the government. Pryor broke a rule that everyone breaks, its the equivalent of jaywalking, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, or running that red light a 3:30 am because it takes forever to change. What he did hurts no one and why its against the rules is a mystery to everyone. In fact its the very essence of what this country’s economy was built on, capitalism. He leveraged his fame, athletic accomplishments, and merchandise against the monetary value he could get for it.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
#149
Al has one question. Can Carson still chunk the long ball?
September 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Pryor got suspended for deliberately embellishing his collegiate infractions to increase his chances at NFL eligibility. Didn’t have anything to do with the actual infractions. He tried to put on a dog and pony show for the league’s benefit. He was pulling Goodell’s chain and got called on it.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
So what is the actual Pryor infraction, as it relates to the NFL?
Also was the suspension imposed before or after the lockout?
September 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Just FYI…The lil misses just called DirecTV to complain about the Sunday ticket deal. We were sitting here watching Pawn Stars and the commercial came on for free Sunday Ticket for new subscribers and it set her off. She called and said she didn’t think it was fair that we’d had it for 14 years now and new subs got it for free.
The CSR knocked 20 bucks a month, or basically $120 off the price of our Sunday ticket.
It ain’t free, but it works for me.
I’ve heard some people complain that DirecTV wouldn’t work with them. Others have said they were offered free HBO or PPV movie credits to offset the price of the Sunday Ticket. I don’t know. It’s worth a shot.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora
Eagles add depth to O-line, announce they claim G Kyle DeVan off waivers from the Colts. DT Cedric Thornton released.
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Raider announce they signed…….
Can anyone answer that? Or at least prodict who it will be?
September 4th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Pride of Aragon High, FB Manase Tonga, on practice field/squad … So is Parsons, Brock, McGee ..,
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Ricky Brown
September 4th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
CrazyRaiderRadMichael-Radcliffe
RT @CorkOnTheNFL: Chaz Schilens practicing with rest of team for first time since Aug. 11 injury.
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I’m going to my neighbors to see if he’s hear anything.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Brodine on practice squad, Cumbie too
2 minutes ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Ohioraifer
Wrong he didn’t deliberately embellishments anything. He told the truth, he was suspended for “undermining the draft process” by leaving school and trying to enter the supplemental draft. It was the NFL’s position that he still could have returned to play at OSU and the supplemtal draft OS only for those whose eligibility had changed since the draft. Though he had been ruled ineligible by the university in a letter for his cooperation with the investigation. It really is a suspension that has no grounds and clearly Goodell was extending the suspension from the NCAA to the NFL as a way of sending a message that they will not be used as a shelter for those whom are guilty of NCAA infractions. A message that he chose only to send when a black QB was involved and not when a white coach was hired. Heard he is looking into the vest hiring so lets see if a 5 game suspension is handed down to him.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Ricky Brown?
1 minute ago
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VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
There’s a 53 (Leman?) and a 57 too
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Bengals are very deep at LB…They have a youngster on the PS I would signthat showed up for the bengals this year in preaseason DeQuin Evans…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Yeah, let the guys who whiffed to get a second chance…Put an asterisk by the names of those who got a second chance…
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It does make things more fair
September 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
No sign of Wand, waived for Brown?
2 minutes ago
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RAIDERSOAKLAND RAIDERS
by VittorioTafur
The Raiders have signed LB Ricky Brown
7 minutes ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
God f***ing d***it, how can we not get rid of Ricky f***ing Brown?!
September 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Thec,
Pryor broke rules he knew he had to follow going in. He was a poor example of a leader of his team. Although I agree that he SHOULD NOT have to be suspended in the NFL…let’s not excuse bad behavior.
Pryor wasn’t bending the rules to get a meal…he was bending the rules to get some sort of self-satisfaction. It wasn’t right and every young person aspiring to be a leader of a college football team needs understand that.
Not sweep it under the rug as another transgression of an agrieved party.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
And 10th guy is Sterling Moore
2 minutes ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Brown has pictures of Al and Lane Kiffin.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Sorry for the typos im n a stupid touch screen phone
September 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
181.
Lets not make this a white and black thing. A kid undermined the system. A man got fired from his job. Lots of coaches get fired and hired every year. They get fired for a lot of diffrent things. Pryor was not suspend because he is a black player.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
The only name I saw on the list that disapointed me was Sterling Moore. I thought that guy had played his way onto the roster. I thought he was physical and really made plays on the ball. I thought he looked better than Joe Porter.
I had hoped Trent Edwards would unseat Kyle Boller. But, he seemed to regress game by game. He made that nice TD toss to Ausberry. Nice throw, even better catch. He looked good vs Ariz, but awful vs NO and Sea.
I was not surprised to see Loper cut. After watching him struggle vs Seattle’s backups I was more surprised that he was ever even considered potential starting material. He was hot, steaming garbage Fri night.
I know nothing has been announced yet, but this team has to scouring the waiver wire for some LB and CB depth. Or a trade in the works. Something. Anything.
I think the defensive struggles have been a lil overexaggerated in here, but the lack of quality depth is alarming. The second and third string defense has been embarrasing. Poor tackling, blown coverages. Awful.
I think with a healthy Seymour and CJ37 on the field, we’ll see a much better performance come Monday Night.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Eighth guy … Moore was eighth and final guy on practice squad
1 minute ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Severeraiderz
Pryor broke the rules. That is not in dispute. As a college athlete you can’t accept the gifts he received. You just cant.
THe circumstances around it…the NCAA and the hyprocrisy of the American people around “amateur” athletics is a separate issue.
Pryor was the QB and LEADER of that team. That means LEADER on and OFF the field…not just when its convenient.
He broke the rules and paid the price.
However, he should not be suspended by the NFL. THat’s ridiculous
September 4th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
There goes my question about who the back up MLB is
September 4th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
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@VittorioTafur : -Practice squad Sterling Moore, Jamie Cumbie, Mason Brodine, Manase Tonga, Alex Parsons, Kevin Brock, J Leman, Eddie McGee
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September 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Pryor broke rules he knew he had to follow going in. He was a poor example of a leader of his team. Although I agree that he SHOULD NOT have to be suspended in the NFL…let’s not excuse bad behavior.
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I never said lets excuse the infractions, however my point is that the NFL had ZERO jurisdiction in this matter. Also if the suspension was handed during the lockout Godell is not suspending players for any transsgressions that happened during the lockout…
Any lawyer will argue this, which is why Pryor’s lawyer filed a right to appeal 2 weeks ago…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Stevie B picked up by the panthers
September 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
I would have taken DeQuin Evans at LB from the nati’s PS…He is a better player than RBROWN imo…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
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RT @CorkOnTheNFL: Chaz Schilens practicing with rest of team for first time since Aug. 11 injury.
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Thank goodness!
September 4th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Pryor broke rules he knew he had to follow going in. He was a poor example of a leader of his team. Although I agree that he SHOULD NOT have to be suspended in the NFL…let’s not excuse bad behavior.
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I never said lets excuse the infractions, however my point is that the NFL had ZERO jurisdiction in this matter. Also if the suspension was handed during the lockout Godell is not suspending players for any transsgressions that happened during the lockout…
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Agreed
September 4th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Just FYI…The lil misses just called DirecTV to complain about the Sunday ticket deal. We were sitting here watching Pawn Stars and the commercial came on for free Sunday Ticket for new subscribers and it set her off. She called and said she didn’t think it was fair that we’d had it for 14 years now and new subs got it for free.
The CSR knocked 20 bucks a month, or basically $120 off the price of our Sunday ticket.
It ain’t free, but it works for me.
I’ve heard some people complain that DirecTV wouldn’t work with them. Others have said they were offered free HBO or PPV movie credits to offset the price of the Sunday Ticket. I don’t know. It’s worth a shot.
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Heard it through the grapevine…..PS3 is having the ticket for people who don’t have NFL ticket!!
September 4th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
I never said lets excuse the infractions,
I meant, I never said lest excuse the bad behavior.
however, godell is way out of bounds, and set a precedent that can expose the league to litigation…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Good news everyone!!! Sterling Moore cleared waivers and was added to the practice squad
September 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Raiders re-signed LB Ricky Brown.
Brown spent the summer in Patriots camp, but he was with the Raiders as a special teamer, strong-side linebacker, and middle linebacker from 2006-2010. He’ll add depth with Travis Goethel (knee) out for the season
September 4th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Good news everyone!!! Sterling Moore cleared waivers and was added to the practice squad
that’s be awesome I can’t find it on googlw..help?
…………. No way!
September 4th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Every ex raider player that’s nit named Nnamdi,gallery,or miller were cut or released by the respective team. What does that say bout our secondary talent. After the ones there a grand canyon of a stop off in talent on our roster. Save for the RB position an the WR position
Ricky brown…. come on man!!!
September 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Glad to hear SMoore cleared waivers and made it onto the practice squad.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Dmn
They always try to set a new precedent or go around the parameters when an unpopular black athlete is involved….
Big Ben gets accused of rape three times and uses the off duty cops he employs as security to intimidate his accuser and to tamper with the crime scene…..4 games.
Pryor “undermines draft process” 5 games
Don’t talk to me about black and white
September 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
They’re only doing special teams during media window, so we’ll wait for Hue to tell us starting OL later
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VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Seymour and Johnson out here, no Murphy and Mitchell
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September 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Ohioraifer
Wrong he didn’t deliberately embellishments anything. He told the truth, he was suspended for “undermining the draft process” by leaving school and trying to enter the supplemental draft. It was the NFL’s position that he still could have returned to play at OSU and the supplemtal draft OS only for those whose eligibility had changed since the draft. Though he had been ruled ineligible by the university in a letter for his cooperation with the investigation. It really is a suspension that has no grounds and clearly Goodell was extending the suspension from the NCAA to the NFL as a way of sending a message that they will not be used as a shelter for those whom are guilty of NCAA infractions. A message that he chose only to send when a black QB was involved and not when a white coach was hired. Heard he is looking into the vest hiring so lets see if a 5 game suspension is handed down to him.
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Rosenhaus, smelling a ton of money to be made, approached the NFL before the Ohio State suspension was even announced. Rosenhaus played up the infractions, including some that eventually were dismissed, in order to burn the bridge back to OSU and get the kid into the draft. Goodell didn’t like the way it played out and felt they were gaming the system. He of course used the OSU suspension as a pretext, but the real issue was the way Rosenhaus attempted to secure Pryor’s eligibility in the supplemental draft.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
We need to be doing some PS shopping…LB, nickel CB, and DT…
September 4th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
We need a big signing. Signing Lance Briggs would be super duper.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Surprised Raiders brought everybody back for practice squad considering how bad they got dominated in second halves of preseason?
2 minutes ago
September 4th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Severeraiderz,
There is a racial element to be sure.
However, the bar is very low for all athletes.
Big Ben should have gone to jail like Vick did. No question.
Athletes are held to no standard of behavior. And the young kids, most of whom won’t sniff the pros, emulate them and try to follow their footsteps.
Acting like an athlete in regular society gets you nowhere.
But again the hypocrisy. Those Pittsburgh fans (Middle America) love cheering on Big Ben and the rest of that team damm the consequences.
September 4th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Rosenhaus eats and sleeps money.
September 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Rosenhaus, smelling a ton of money to be made, approached the NFL before the Ohio State suspension was even announced. Rosenhaus played up the infractions, including some that eventually were dismissed, in order to burn the bridge back to OSU and get the kid into the draft. Goodell didn’t like the way it played out and felt they were gaming the system. He of course used the OSU suspension as a pretext, but the real issue was the way Rosenhaus attempted to secure Pryor’s eligibility in the supplemental draft.
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I still do not see where the violation.
Does the NFL have rules on the books to handle this situation?
It appears that rosen just exercised a loop hole.
The NFL is open for litigation…
September 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Gotta roll ttyl
September 4th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Goodell didn’t like the way it played out and felt they were gaming the system. He of course used the OSU suspension as a pretext
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Based on your statements this sounds personal…
Futhermore, he cannot use what happened in college as a pretext, a Lawyer will eat his lunch as he has no jurisdiction…
September 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
PS3 Ticket is gonna be like 6 bills or something retarded.
September 4th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Pryor needs to take his medicine or risk sabotaging his already dicey reputation. I don’t think he fights anything unless he’s put up to it. In which case, the kid is being used. What else is new.
September 4th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Patch, heard they were gonna have single game day tickets also…
September 4th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
143.noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:39 am
wonder who will wear #21
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That number will be retired into the hall of shame like #2. Go figure, WTF!
September 4th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Goodell just played the game with the end result being the suspension gets lifted him knowing the NFL can’t suspend a player for breaking NCAA rules…
Correct??
September 4th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Pryor is an ok kid, just misguided at time. He’ll get on the right path.
September 4th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
That would be the business there…any word on price?
September 4th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
ohioraider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Pryor needs to take his medicine or risk sabotaging his already dicey reputation. I don’t think he fights anything unless he’s put up to it. In which case, the kid is being used. What else is new.
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So he should take his medicine…lol
Reputations can be repaired, see mike vick.
Earlier you were speaking from a perspective as if you had some extra intel or knowledge about the situation.
In any of your above statements you have yet to clearly illucidate what NFL policy was violated.
September 4th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I still do not see where the violation.
Does the NFL have rules on the books to handle this situation?
It appears that rosen just exercised a loop hole.
The NFL is open for litigation…
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And here is how the battle will take place:
The NFL and its conspirators will try to turn down Pryors suspension because it is another beat down of Al Davis.
But Al and his litigious self and his bevy of lawyers will find a way to make the NFLs’ ruling wrong, out of bounds, unconstitutional, so to speak. And they will find a hole, you can bank on it.
When all this starts to surface in a week or less, Pryors’ suspension will be put on hold and he will now occupy a roster spot.
In the mean time, Al and his legal team continue to fight the NFL, maybe tossing out the idea Al Davis and the Raiders may even sue the NFL over this. And Al and his lawyers will find a way. Gauranteed.
With the NFLs’ reputation already tarnished because of the lockout, they toss the suspension into the trash knowing Al won’t settle for anything less.
What this does to future violations and NCAA rules is anyones guess, but there will be a ‘Pryor’ rule of some kind so the NFL does not have to face this type of embarrassment again.
Another Al Davis vicory in the courts.
September 4th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Makes sense now that the NFL is feeling heat to “suspend” Tressel from advising the Colts during the season. Pryor’s got a much better chance of getting the suspension overturned.
And, oh yeah, there’s only 2 QBs on the roster. Raiders might have encouraged Pryor to appeal or knew an appeal was coming. Either way they decided to keep only 2 QBs.
September 4th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
What is “MUP”?
September 4th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
What is “MUP”?
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