Post-practice notes, quotes and anecdotes
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, September 4th, 2011 at 4:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.
About 23 hours after saying good-bye to 26 players, Raiders coach Hue Jackson got around to talking about the moves, which included bringing back eight of those 26 on the practice squad.
Nothing earth-shattering from Jackson on the roster moves. He did have some interesting things to say about his current players.
For one, Jackson said he is set with Jared Veldheer, Stefen Wisniewski, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes as his starting offensive line.
“From the start of training camp, I saw a unit of men start to battle, start to take coaching and continue to get better,” Jackson said.
He said things might have been different were it not for early injuries to Bruce Campbell and Stephon Heyer. In the end, those guys just had too much making up to do.
“Those other five guys, they just kept battling, kept getting better, kept taking care of the quarterback,” Jackson said. “And that’s the name of the game. You have to keep your quarterback clean.”
Wisniewski was anointed the starting center when the Raiders selected him in the second round of the NFL draft in late April. The re-signing of Satele in late July compelled the Raiders to find another spot for Wisniewski.
“That’s been my goal since I’ve been here, to be a starter,” Wisniewski said. “Now it’s official. That’s good. But it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to relax. It just means I’ve got to get focused and start working at left guard after initially playing a lot of center. So I’ve got a lot of work to do, getting better at left guard. I’ll be working my butt off here every day. It’s going to take time, but I’m willing to put it in and have good coaches to help me get there.”
Jackson also said that “absolutely” he expects veteran wide receiver Chaz Schilens to play against the Denver Broncos in the regular-season opener Sept. 12.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour and cornerback Chris Johnson joined Schilens at practice with the rest of their teammates.
The only regulars still sidelined with injuries are receiver Louis Murphy, safety Mike Mitchell and tight end Kevin Boss.
“I’m excited because (almost) all of our players were there today,” Jackson said. “I’ve seen guys who haven’t been out running around for weeks out there playing and preparing and getting themselves ready. So, I feel very comfortable about where we are healthwise.”
*Saturday was a tense day for many of the Raiders who weren’t assured of roster spots. One of the surprise players who made the team is cornerback Joe Porter.
He stayed up until 5 a.m. after the return flight from Seattle, uncertain of his future. He said he didn’t find out he had made the team until he showed up to the facility Sunday morning before practice.
“I just walked in this morning and nobody said anything,” Porter said. “Yeah. I walked in and looked around the corner, there was a slip on my locker, but it was only for a drug test.”
So it was that Porter beat out 2010 draftees Walter McFadden and Jeremy Ware, as well as promising undrafted rookie Sterling Moore.
Family and friends started calling Porter after the cuts were announced Saturday night, but he still wasn’t sure what to make of things.
“They were calling me all night and all day,” Porter said. ” ‘You made it!’ No, I’m still not sure. Things can always change. But they’e blowing me up: ‘Joe, you made it! I can’t believe it! I’m so proud of you.’ My mom’s crying on the phone. But yeah, I walked in, sat in the meeting, nothing’s going on, went to practice, ok, looking over my shoulder, ok.”
*No sooner had linebacker Ricky Brown been cut by the New England Patriots did the Raiders move in.
“I got cut on Friday, and I was in Logan Airport (in Boston), and all of a sudden my agent called and said, ‘The Raiders have already called.’ And I’m, like, ‘Cool, let’s get it going.’ ”
Brown spent his first five NFL seasons with the Raiders. He signed with the Patriots this offseason after he failed to receive a contract offer from the Raiders.
Brown surfaced on their radar again once Travis Goethel suffered a season-ending knee injury and Sam Williams was waived. Brown said the Raiders were the only team he wanted to hear from.
“I was telling my agent this was the place I wanted to be afterwards,” Brown said. “We were thinking maybe I’d have to clear through waivers, and I didn’t want to have to go through that, either.”
Jackson said it was nice seeing a familiar face.
“We hugged this morning,” Jackson said. ” ‘Hey Ricky, how you doing?’ ‘Hey, coach, it’s good to see you.’ ‘Let’s go to practice.’ That’s about what it was. I’m glad Ricky’s back. Ricky’s a veteran player, knows the lay of the land here,
knows our coaches, knows me, so it was very comfortable, and I’m glad he’s back.”
Brown said he isn’t sure how he will be used, other than on special teams. He is scheduled to meet with linebackers coach Greg Biekert to find out what the Raiders expect of him moving forward.
*Strong safety Tyvon Branch received high praise for the pass he intercepted against the Seattle Seahawks on Friday night. Hearing praise for his pass coverage skills for a change is nice, he said.
“I get a lot of criticism on my coverage, so that’s’ the big thing I was focused on this offseason was attacking the ball,” Branch said. “And it’s paying off.”
As for the criticism, Branch was asked if it’s warranted.
“Oh, no, I don’t think it’s warranted,” Branch said. “I work hard. I put myself in good positions and just go out there and try and make play. I’m a good player, man, and everybody on my team will vouch for that. I give a lot of effort. I barely give up plays and I take a lot of criticism that I don’t deserve, but I just go out there and play ball.”
*Raiders rookie quarterback reportedly will appeal his five-game suspension. Jackson said that’s of little concern to him right now as he prepares his team for the regular-season opener.
“If he appeals it and it works, great,” Jackson said. “If it doesn’t, it’s no big deal. Right now, and again, I’m glad he’s a part of our football team, but right now the focus is not that, the focus is our football team getting ready to play the
Denver Broncos.”
Pryor passed through the locker room, but he grabbed a bag and walked back out before he could be approached for comment on word that he intends to appeal the suspension.
*Jackson said he is content entering the season with Jason Campbell and Kyle Boller as his quarterbacks. The Raiders waived Trent Edwards on Saturday.
So, what happens if Campbell and Boller get hurt in the same game?
“His name is Shane Lechler, and he’s pretty good at it,” Jackson said of his Pro Bowl punter. “I had him a year ago,
he was my No. 3 quarterback a year ago. So I trust him. He takes snaps, he’s done it all. He’s played quarterback, I know he can get it done in a pinch if we need him to.”
For the record, Lechler played quarterback in high school, and he routinely throws passes during practice. He throws a better pass than most quarterbacks, truth be told.
*The Raiders kept four tight ends on their roster. That owes more to the quality of the players, Jackson said, and isn’t an indication that Boss won’t be able to play against the Broncos, if not longer.
“What we’re doing is just making sure that if he’s not, that we’re capable of doing what we need to do,” Jackson said. “All those guys are deserving. It’s not like they didn’t earn the right to be here. We’re not giving anybody anything. I’m glad
they’re here, and we’ll go from there.”
Boss suffered a knee injury against the 49ers on Aug. 20. He said his sprained medial collateral ligament is getting better and that there’s a good chance he will be able to play against the Broncos.
*Some teams scour the waiver wire after roster cutdowns and target players from other teams when forming their practice squad. The Raiders felt most comfortable signing their own players.
“Sometimes that’s what you have to do, bring back the guys that you can have on your football team,” Jackson said, “and I’m glad we have those guys back. They were here, know our systems, know me and know exactly what we need to do. Some of it is, I’m not going to tell you all of it, it’s not developmental. Some of these guys know how to practice, know exactly what to expect until you can get better.”
*Backup safety Mike Mitchell spoke Sunday for the first time since he suffered a knee injury in practice almost a month ago.
He said he is making progress, running around and gearing up for the Broncos.
“I feel good, I feel great,” Mitchell said. “Everything’s coming along good. The only thing, I’m not going to give a team a tip whether I’m going to play or not. Make them guess.”
Mitchell’s injury was severe enough to cause him to need crutches to get around at one point during camp. He said he intends to make sure that he is all the way healed so that his injury doesn’t linger or become aggravated and cause him to miss an extended period of time.
“Everyone has said, ‘Be smart with it,’ and that’s what I’m doing,” Mitchell said. “If we were playing the Super Bowl, I wouldn’t have missed a preseason game, but we’re not, it’s the preseason. It’s really no point to aggravating something or injuring something if there’s no need to. We’re talking about a 16-game season. I don’t think I will, but if I was to miss a game or two, there’s still 14 more for me to come in and make an impact in.”
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September 4th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Ricky Brown to the rescue.
September 4th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
I know the Broncos are on pins and needles wondering if Mike Mitchell will play next week.
Sheesh!
September 4th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
MUP
I want to change my pick back to Wiz 2.0
September 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Why did we keep 7 WRs 4 TEs and 5 RBs, but only 4 corners?
September 4th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
106.TerrapinRaider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Raiders updated depth chart:
Offense
WR
85 Darrius Heyward-Bey
18 Louis Murphy
17 Denarius Moore
LT
68 Jared Veldheer
75 Stephon Heyer
LG
61 Stefen Wisniewski
C
64 Samson Satele
61 Stefen Wisniewski
RG
66 Cooper Carlisle
74 Bruce Campbell
RT
69 Khalif Barnes
72 Joe Barksdale
TE
87 Kevin Boss
83 Brandon Myers
82 Richard Gordon/86 David Ausberry
WR
12 Jacoby Ford
81 Chaz Schilens
89 Nick Miller
FB
45 Marcel Reece
RB
20 Darren McFadden
29 Michael Bush
22 Taiwan Jones
QB
8 Jason Campbell
7 Kyle Boller
Defense
DE
99 Lamarr Houston
91 Trevor Scott
DT
92 Richard Seymour
90 Desmond Bryant
DT
93 Tommy Kelly
79 John Henderson
DE
77 Matt Shaughnessy
94 Jarvis Moss
OLB
52 Quentin Groves
58 Bruce Davis II
30 Jerome Boyd
MLB
55 Rolando McClain
(manual insert) Ricky Brown
OLB
96 Kamerion Wimbley
56 Darryl Blackstock
SS
33 Tyvon Branch
34 Mike Mitchell
30 Jerome Boyd
FS
24 Michael Huff
CB
26 Stanford Routt
CB
37 Chris Johnson
23 DeMarcus Van Dyke
28 Joe Porter
Specialists
K
11 Sebastian Janikowski
P
9 Shane Lechler
LS
59 Jon Condo
KOR
12 Jacoby Ford
89 Nick Miller
17 Denarius Moore
PR
89 Nick Miller
12 Jacoby Ford
17 Denarius Moore
H
9 Shane Lechler
September 4th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Next up – Lance Briggs
September 4th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RB’s Cartwright/Bennett
September 4th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
redshirt Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Next up – Lance Briggs
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somehow…But not giving up a 1st for him…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Hey Terrapin where is Hagan on your depth chart?
September 4th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Not “My” depth chart …thats the Raiders depth chart. He’s just not listed. May not suit up game day.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Raiders depth chart a of Sept 4:
http://www.raiders.com/team/depth-chart.html
September 4th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Chekwan and Huff play C = 6 CBs on the roster.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
7.Thec07 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RB’s Cartwright/Bennett
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Not listed on the depth chart …Cartwright may suit up game day but doubt Bennett
September 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
50 guys listed on the depth chart. 3 guys missing, Bennett, Cartwright, and Hagan….
September 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Willing to bet Lito gets resigned.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
You have 4 TE’s…I would bet 1 of those guys don’t suit up also…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
That spot behind Routt is just begging for someone. If so, Bennet will likely be outtro.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Willing to bet Lito gets resigned.
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Very high possibility…imo…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
I’ll be dammned.
I waited all night yesterday and all day today to find out who we were going to pick up today and come in and find out it’s Ricky Brown. This team just sucks the life out of me.
This is just like anticipating a blind date and when she shows up at the front door, she is big as a house, snaggle tooth, and looks you in the eye smiling with her right eye pointing at the doorbell and her left eye pointing at the door hinges.
I’ve be on this insane workout and meal plan and lost about 30 lbs and feeling healthy and fit as hell. I’m going out right now to Krispy Kreme to get a hot dozen and a pint of Blue Bell ice cream. Leave me alone, I’m depressed.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Pro’s and con’s exist with RBROWN…If it were me I would have picked off a good young LB from one of the top tier defenses.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Practice Squad…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Sorry to burst your proverbial bubbles w/ Hagan. Fact is he’s not listed on updated depth chart which tells me he’s behind Nick Miller (who is listed). Nick Miller may not be better, he just does more with returning Kicks/Punts. So he will likely suit up before Hagan.
I don’t agree with it from a WR perspective but from a overall team contribution perspective I understand.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Actually since Murphy will not play, Hagan has a chance to suit up and rise on the depth chart.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Hagan isn’t listed on the depth chart.
But thank God that DHB is starting, how could we play without his clearout and decoy ability.
Just like Prime Time he takes away half the field — from his own team.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
You guys were going koo-koo crazy about Nick Miller 2 years ago due to his practice exploits lol. Hagan is simply this year’s version (albiet maybe better prospect).
September 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Peyton Manning needs a second surgery, out indefinitely.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Lito will be resigned after week 1, simple economics, we just didnt want to guarantee the whole year to him. I am very surprised Nick Miller made the squad. Its shameful actually for there to be so many worthless non contributors on this squad.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Lito gets resigned if there is an injury to Routt or Chris Johnon. They brought him in to get familiar with the system
September 4th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
You guys were going koo-koo crazy about Nick Miller 2 years ago due to his practice exploits lol. Hagan is simply this year’s version (albiet maybe better prospect).
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ROFLMAO….
Some of these guys were suggesting Hagan replace JFORD, after 1 pre-season game….The guy played 1 game last year, has a history of injuries, and has cored 5 Td’s in his career…He is good however, some guys have gotten carried away…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Ricky Brown is not on that roster either. I think this is just something they put out there but it is not the final roster for the opener. Besides, there’s the chance that neither Murphy or Boss will play, which would move up Moore and free up a WR spot for Hagan.
If Hagan is not even active for the game, then there’s some serious problems with the decision making here. Though that wouldn’t come as a surprise to any of us…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Terrapin,
I am cool with DHB as a starter and am rooting for the kid.
But seriously, as an amateur analyst, I have to say that he CANNOT have any more of these games where he is only snagging 1 or 2 catches.
He’s gotta start making an impact on the field and be an impact player.
So he and Jason Campbell had better build that chemistry that’s been missing to date if the passing offense has a chance to be competent
September 4th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Not sure what would be so crazy about “journeyman veteran” Hagan starting over the likes of Murphy and DHB.
Murphy and DHB, on any other team, would be viewed as nothing more than “journeyman veterans.” Who can’t catch.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
as of right now, I would say Murphy has better hands than DHB though.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
I think a good 3 WR set would be Ford, Moore, Hagan.
Ford, DHB, Moore wouldn’t be bad either.
I’m really hoping Chaz stays healthy and lives up to the expectations, that would just be icing on this WR corp of ours.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Hagan isn’t listed on the depth chart.
But thank God that DHB is starting, how could we play without his clearout and decoy ability.
Just like Prime Time he takes away half the field — from his own team
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Don’t forget he’s our designated penalty drawer.
Positive yards without even touching the ball!
Who says Al Davis isn’t a visionary?
September 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
DHB, and LMURPHY will be in the WR rotation along with HAGAN…Not about who starts but who finishes and contributes…All of our Wides will contribute…
September 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
I just want to see production on the field….no more indirect contributions by starters..whether its the wide receiver or the defensive tackle….the Raiders need starters to DIRECTLY provide contribution and production
September 4th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Good Point SnB…Also a good point you made earlier is that our big money guys need to play elite….
September 4th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Doubtful Hagen suits up unless due to injury. If the depth chart is legit, you can’t expect the Raiders to dress 7 WRs….
September 4th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Gotta wonder if Tressel getting hired by the Colts didn’t factor into Pryor’s decision to appeal.
Bit of a double standard there.
Is Al pulling the strings here?
September 4th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Thec07,
The Raiders really don’t stand much of a chance on defense unless Seymour, Wimbley and Routt play up to their contracts….because without them playing the way they are paid…the weaknesses on the defense will get exposed.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Al and Drew Rosenhaus are pulling the strings here. You can bet on that.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Here’s a formation that should be called “Nascar” or “Nas” for short, because of the speed on the field.
DHB________JV,SW,SS,CC,KB____MOORE_____FORD
___________________JC
_____________DMac______TJ
September 4th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Other than a hot female hottie, the beach in cancun, cold beer and margaritas, I’d say it doesn’t get any better with our WIN against the donkeys next Monday, unless ShanaRAT was still the head coach and Bill Romanowski was spitting in the rat’s face.
September 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Alright folks, a week from tomorrow the live bullets fly. Go RAIDERS!!!!
September 4th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Sorry to be the guy to toss cold water on various ideas. But Taiwan Jones still has work to do before you can say he’s going to be a significant contributor.
He’s got to learn pass protection, ball security and just playing at the NFL level.
AGain, the kid came from Eastern Washington, was injured through most of preseason.
This is not Madden 12…just insert player and take the controls as to mitigate lack of awareness etc….
Let the kid develop and don’t just throw him out there.
3 to 5 touches a game should do it for Taiwan…with some games getting zero
September 4th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Yea, but if in one of those 3-5 touches he breaks a big one, and does it every time he plays, I would think his touches would increase a bit.
Of course BIG IFS, but it’s been done before. He just needs to stay healthy and protect the ball.
September 4th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Do any of you remember the last time we started the season with a win?… it sure would be nice…
September 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Alex7, a journeyman vet Wr is a Wr that has been on multiple teams but hasn’t stuck with anyone. DHB and Murphy are both young and have only been on the Raiders so that term wouldn’t apply with them.
I still don’t get why we kept 5 RB’s, 7 Wr’s and 4 TE’s, it doesn’t make since. Especially since we have multiple RB’s that we can put on the line like a WR and a TE that used to be a WR so you could do that with him as well.
I’m afraid that we need a little more depth/talent in the secondary.
September 4th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Can we please sign a freakin WLB A DECENT ONE! Tatupu dhani or briggs even if Al were to give up a first for him we rarely do good in the first round anyway
September 4th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Even though Tatupu is a MLB we can move him to the weakside
September 4th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
I can see Stevie Brown developing into a pro bowl SS ,hope he remembers his roots and returns home to us someday.
September 4th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Cassel could miss opener with rib injury
PFT
September 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
We should also consider sharper or meriweather
September 4th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Meriweather with the Bears
September 4th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Well that leaves darren sharper
September 4th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I really hope that Seymour is healthy, he’s key to our defense man..I’m amped that our offense looks poised to kill on Monday Night Football!….except for the fact that we have Khalif “false start” Barnes playing RT!!! He’s gonna kill a drive or 2, I call it. The guy is just lame man…he looks like a lazy fat kat in pads, with killer eye bags! I hear he’s the funniest person on the Raiders too, so he’s a jokester too, eh? DAMN! The raiders right side needs someone fully attentive and serious! Heyer shoulda been the starter :/// whatever though, I hope he mulls in the run game with his size…GO RAIDERS
September 4th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
*Backup safety Mike Mitchell spoke Sunday for the first time since he suffered a knee injury in practice almost a month ago.
He said he is making progress, running around and gearing up for the Broncos.
“I feel good, I feel great,” Mitchell said. “Everything’s coming along good. The only thing, I’m not going to give a team a tip whether I’m going to play or not. Make them guess.”
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This is just a complete, amateurish fiasco the way the old man still plays these games. Like, who cares? Whose game planning does he think he’s disrupting. The Broncos wringing there hand, “oh my god we don’t know who’s playing SS.” You may think this kind of thing is nothing, including not releasing final roster moves. But I think it has everything to do with the rut this franchise is in.
September 4th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Also I support DHB starting, he’s progressing nicely
he looks like a runningback with the ball in his hands(when he catches it lol).
September 4th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
That’s good to know that you place your vote of confidence in DHB, despite all evidence that Hagan should be starting. Shows you’re a trooper.
September 4th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
TheGeneral Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Cassel could miss opener with rib injury
PFT
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I thought they would have been active after losing the Moeaki…Cassel out leaves an even bigger hole…
September 4th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
willflo818 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Also I support DHB starting, he’s progressing nicely he looks like a runningback with the ball in his hands(when he catches it lol).
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I would prefer one of the “other” WR would start however, DHB will be a solid contributor to our WR corp rotation…I trust coach Jackson…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
A lot was invested in DHB so if the coaches and/or Coach Davis think he’s the best receiver…so be it…they live it…
Seriously though…this talk about decoy is b.s. DHB has to start being a force on the field. JC has to target the kid…period.
Its not about playing favorites…its about production.
If Hue and Al think DHB gives the offense the best opportunity for production…then I say go DHB!!!!!
I will say that 1 or 2 catches won’t cut it though!
September 4th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Coaches have no say in it. Jackson could think DHB is a complete flop, but if the Old Creeper says play ‘em then he plays ‘em. And that’s why you get futility year after year.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
SnB, I agree 100%…I trust what the coaches are doing, they know these players inside out. A lot of these Semi’s get hung up on who starts, when the most important thing is production…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Who’s had the best production so far, thec?
September 4th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Thec,
But to be honest with ourselves…DHB has not put that potential on the football field yet. So i beleive some healthy skepticism is warranted.
He is young…and perhaps DHB will benefit from 2 years in the same system as JC.
But if JC doesn’t target DHB in the game…then questions have to be asked.
DHB has the potential to be a weapon with his height and speed..but he’s gotta put it together on the field like the Deshaun Jackson’s, Jeremy Maclin’s and other accomplished receivers do
If he does that, then offense takes off
September 4th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
The offense takes off when the line gels. It’s that simple.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
This give up the 1st rndr for a loaf of bread because we rarely do good there s really getting on my nerves. We drafted a lot potential and certain HOF’s in the 1st rnd Fabian Washington have all had good to great careers and Chester McGlokton . Tim Brown, Marcus Allen, Charles Woodson are just a few certain HOF’s that come to mind.
You don’t just throw it away because we had some stinkers. You don’t know who you’ll be able to get. Now I love the idea of Lance Briggs and I hope we get him but stop with the “we wont do good in the 1st” crap.
We could tarde down or get a player as good as Lance Briggs in the 1st and give up a 3rd and 6th for Briggs. And I bet they’ll take it the Bears have always been CHEAP.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Seriously though…this talk about decoy is b.s. DHB has to start being a force on the field. JC has to target the kid…period.
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The young man has definetly improved however, he needs to really step his game up as we have guys that are not starting that in my opinion should be. So he will need to produce, and in some cases exceed expectations.
I expect that he will do this.
I belive coach Jackson and coach Saunders hav plan to have a WR rotation. I believe all the WR’s will get run, but whats going to also dictate is down, and distance…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
I saw it with my own eyes. WTF. Hagan can catch in traffic and is NOT afraid of taking a hit. I’ve seen it, and if anybody wants to dispute that, take it up in the film room.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
I meant to add Nnamdi, MCclain, DMC, Philip Bushanan and Robert Gallery as players who have had good careers so far.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
If he does that, then offense takes off
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Totally agree. I like what I saw in our QB in the preseason. JC has built a solid chemistry with all of the WR’s. I have high expectations for this offense.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
NOT afraid to take a hit, what does that mean how is he different from anyone else who takes a hit? LOL
September 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
I have seen this too. DHB is a basket catcher, in the stop position, and doesnt get much after the catch. Tj or T’pin, got DHBs’ YACs’? WTF where is Hagan. Unfckngbelievable. If you dont believe me, take it up in the film room.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
You’re reaching, Father Pride & Poise. Once again adrift your own universe. Only Asomugha has made the Pro Bowl. All the others (Buchanon?? You must be joking) and the jury’s still out.
Nothing but back office ringers on here tonight I see. Your stuff is weak, too. Oh, so…weak…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
DHB is scared to take a hit, thats why he is a basket catcher and rarely get YACs’.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Priest, whats up Bruh? Question what does your intel say, do we stand pat or is a WLB or CB in the works???
September 4th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
I like DHB, he is a decent human being and a great guy, but he is not our #1 on the charts. NFW. He is like 5 or 6.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
We aint trowing away 1st rnd picks because a few guys didn’t pan out……………it’s plain stupid
September 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
What if Callahan was right. Is it possible that we are the “dumbest team in America”?
September 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Had a disscussion earlier with the Terp, he said we may be bring backe lito. You heard anything?
September 4th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Twocents Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
What if Callahan was right. Is it possible that we are the “dumbest team in
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What if?
September 4th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
We aint trowing away 1st rnd picks because a few guys didn’t pan out……………it’s plain stupid
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Agreed…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
I would love to get Briggs however I don’t want just anybody just to say we got somebody. if there sis a player out there to be had we should do it. If not don’t…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
What we are learning:
Michigan values life more than football.
Notre Dame values wins more than life.
Morgantown? These people are totally nuts. To quote a report heard on ESPN “a fan who was not in control of his faculties was damaged when struck by lightning.”
Hey, they finally called the game. Wow!
September 4th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
I hate to say it, but we are about to go into the season with a defense that will be absolutely useless for this team…
We will be next to last in almost every defensive category, because not only do we NOT stop the RUN, we can no longer stop the PASS.
It’s gonna get ugly folks, Jackson is going to be Spinning it like Nolan Ryan after every Sunday’s loss..Dude had yet to win a game as a Raider H.C…If you think he ain’t been trying your crazy.
There is a reason Bresnahan has been out of the league for 2 years..and were about to experience why..
Offenses are going to have our defense running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
I would give my left nut to have our defense from last year. We would at least have a chance with our current offense..as of now..we are absolutely F’(cked…This Defense will stop NOONE, and Bresnahan isn’t going to have Rich Gannon and Co. to keep them off the field.
I’ll watch the games, but we all know the carnage we are about to witness..I know football, I trust my eyes, and what I see is as plain as day..
Pisses me off.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Thec07 No I’ve been out of the loop for a few days had urgent business.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I would go after Briggs if the price is right. I heard a 1st was the price being floated, too expsensive for my taste…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
I meant to add Nnamdi, MCclain, DMC, Philip Bushanan and Robert Gallery as players who have had good careers so far.
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Hopefully DMC and McClain have LONG careers here in Oakland.
The fact that no (1st or 2nd round pick) drafted before 2008 is still with the team helps to explain the struggles this franchise has had the last 10 years.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Thec07 No I’ve been out of the loop for a few days had urgent business.
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Hope all is well with you Bruh…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Briggs is a greta player but I think he can be had for less we cannot keep dumping 1st rnd picks. He’s also 30 years old maybe 3-5 year left at a high level. I wouldn’t give a 1st.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Sorry…there are 2….Janokowski and Routt
September 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
IMO Carlisle wont keep that job long…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Briggs is a greta player but I think he can be had for less we cannot keep dumping 1st rnd picks. He’s also 30 years old maybe 3-5 year left at a high level. I wouldn’t give a 1st.
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I don’t think any team is going to do that…
I would give one of our compensatory 3rds for him…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Being desparate for a decent season, I would trade next years 1st for Briggs. Then I’d trade Bush for a second to some other desparate team.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Point is the Raiders need to start building and sustaining a team.
Hopefully the kids they’ve been developing the last 3 years benefit the Raiders for years to come
September 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
2013 3rd rounder and Trevor Scott for Briggs, perhaps.
Still don’t think Chicago is going to trade him. After this season, perhaps, but they have very little reason to now.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
SnB shut up man…before 2008 LOL we don’y have any before 1985 what does that say……..whew!!
September 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
IMO Carlisle wont keep that job long…
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Yep, he would have been gone had it not been for the injury to BCAMP…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
This is just a complete, amateurish fiasco the way the old man still plays these games. Like, who cares? Whose game planning does he think he’s disrupting. The Broncos wringing there hand, “oh my god we don’t know who’s playing SS.” You may think this kind of thing is nothing, including not releasing final roster moves. But I think it has everything to do with the rut this franchise is in.
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Exactly..its just as stupid and pointless as this “Build a Bully” crap..I mean really? Can that be any more sophomoric? Especially since we have given up 2000 yards in preaseason..what a ridiculous statement.
As far as Mitchell and the veil of secrecy goes..in meetings it goes something like this..
Guard pulls comes around, seals D.E to the inside, you (fullback) will have the strong saftety, you (tailback) read the block and bounce it inside, or outside depending on what you see…
Its NOT If Mike Mitchell is healthy do this, if he is NOT healthy do that…
This crap is so old and stale it makes me sick..
Raider fans are jerked around like serfs in India…no wonder the HOT is half full every Sunday. Al Davis doesn’t give a crap about any of us..He cares about ‘winning’….really? If he cared about winning DHB would never have been on this team. Nuff f’n said.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Trading Bush makes the team WORSE this year.
What are you going to do? Give DMAC the ball 30x per game….if so, then you better draft a new RB because DMAC’s career will be over in a year or two.
And please don’t say Taiwan Jones can be the 2nd string running back….please…he’s got work to do before that can happen and him help the team.
Running backs don’t just run the ball..they have to pass protect and occassinaly catch a pass too.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
SnB shut up man…before 2008 LOL we don’y have any before 1985 what does that say……..whew!!
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Sigh…..
September 4th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Bennett is a decent backup.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
You know, having a couple of home grown players with more than 3 years in the league would actually be of help…
But I guess that’s what OTHER teams do….forget it
September 4th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Yep, he would have been gone had it not been for the injury to BCAMP…
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My point exactly!
September 4th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
You may find this surprising but 1st team D actually stopped the run all preseason. I know they wear the same uniform but don’t mistake 1st team for 2nd or 3rd. Major difference.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Yeah I cant see us getting rid of MBUSH. we need that depth as TJ as dynamic as he is I am not ready to conceed the number 2 spot to him.
He needs to get his feet wet imo…He will be a factor in the offense no doubt…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
It’s the nature of the beast SnB it’s called FA…….or else Gallery, Miller , Nnamdi and so on and so on would still be here…………pay attention!!
September 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
This is just a complete, amateurish fiasco the way the old man still plays these games. Like, who cares? Whose game planning does he think he’s disrupting. The Broncos wringing there hand, “oh my god we don’t know who’s playing SS.” You may think this kind of thing is nothing, including not releasing final roster moves. But I think it has everything to do with the rut this franchise is in
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every team and owner and coaches do this not just jackson and davis.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
87.MikieG Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
I hate to say it, but we are about to go into the season with a defense that will be absolutely useless for this team…
We will be next to last in almost every defensive category, because not only do we NOT stop the RUN, we can no longer stop the PASS.
It’s gonna get ugly folks, Jackson is going to be Spinning it like Nolan Ryan after every Sunday’s loss..Dude had yet to win a game as a Raider H.C…If you think he ain’t been trying your crazy.
There is a reason Bresnahan has been out of the league for 2 years..and were about to experience why..
Offenses are going to have our defense running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
I would give my left nut to have our defense from last year. We would at least have a chance with our current offense..as of now..we are absolutely F’(cked…This Defense will stop NOONE, and Bresnahan isn’t going to have Rich Gannon and Co. to keep them off the field.
I’ll watch the games, but we all know the carnage we are about to witness..I know football, I trust my eyes, and what I see is as plain as day..
Pisses me off.
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You got that right. Truly fckng amazing how this team can show a glimmer of improvement and quickly go about destroying it.
Defense: downgrade
Offense: downgrade
Coaching: downgrade (except for Hue, we will know after Monday night)
What was wrong with Marshall and why is he gone?
September 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Bennett is a decent backup. Bennett is a decent backup.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
jmcclain Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
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Hey, I remember you said you were at the game and got DHBs’ autograph. Did you get DHBs’ autograph during warm-ups before they suited up? I got his too before they were in uniform as he was going into the tunnel.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Repeat the mantra, “Bennett is a decent backup.”
September 4th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
How about Briggs and a 2nd or a 3rd, for our 1st?
September 4th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
I think Bennett is going to be the next player cut if we sign anyone else…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
You may find this surprising but 1st team D actually stopped the run all preseason. I know they wear the same uniform but don’t mistake 1st team for 2nd or 3rd. Major difference.
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I played the game. No offense Bro, but I know what Im looking at, I have played the game..The first team D has played the way they have played for years, stop, stop, gash..stop, stop, gash….rinse and freakin repeat. Now we have the added detriment of not having half the defensive secondary shut down because were Missing Nnamdi..we are an opposing Offensive Coordinators wet dream right now.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Twocents Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Bennett is a decent backup.
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Based on what? Bush is an EXCELLENT backup..and could be the starter.
Raider fan loves getting rid of players…not realizing that it once took 20 years to replace Christiansen at TE….or almost 7 years to replace Garner….or almost as long to find Veldheer at LT…
You don’t get rid of good players. Especially when your thin today and trying to win RIGHT NOW
September 4th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
You may find this surprising but 1st team D actually stopped the run all preseason
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I still cannot believe this statement…Did you actually watch the preseason games??????????????????????????????????????????
September 4th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
itzSteve Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
I think Bennett is going to be the next player cut if we sign anyone else…
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I beleive this to be spot on…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
other than Briggs, what is the status of Aaron Curry in Seattle? I thought he was on the trading block as well? Would he come any cheaper than Briggs? He is younger too…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
It’s the nature of the beast SnB it’s called FA…….or else Gallery, Miller , Nnamdi and so on and so on would still be here…………pay attention!!
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Perhaps…I am not even saying the Raiders should have kept ANY of their prior picks…
But don’t ignore the fact that only having 1 starting offensive/defensive homegrown starter with more than 3 years of experience hurts the overall development of the team.
The past decade of draft picks is what it is….
As I said before, hopefully the DMAC’s, McClain’s etc….play the prime of their careers for Oakland and not for Seattle or Philly
September 4th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Also, we are NOT getting Briggs, as much as we would like to have him. Not gonna happen.
Move on and forget about it..
Make a good dinner tomorrow for you family. AL Davis is not going to provide you, me, or the rest of the faithful with a banquet of Lance Briggs..
Forget about him..
Focus on how our DB’s are going to somehow stop the pass.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
I wasn’t saying get rid of Bush for nothing. I want Briggs and I’d give up Bush to get him. Read my comment.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
MikieG Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Also, we are NOT getting Briggs, as much as we would like to have him. Not gonna happen.
Move on and forget about it..
Make a good dinner tomorrow for you family. AL Davis is not going to provide you, me, or the rest of the faithful with a banquet of Lance Briggs..
Forget about him..
Focus on how our DB’s are going to somehow stop the pass.
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That was a good one….ROFLMAO….Good stuff Mike…lol
September 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Curry is lousy in space the only reason to bring him here is as a edge rusher which he’s not better thatn the guys we have it would be a bad trade for us great trade for them.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Make a good dinner tomorrow for you family. AL Davis is not going to provide you, me, or the rest of the faithful with a banquet of Lance Briggs..
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ROFLMAO… Mike you win Bruh….
September 4th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
126.priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Curry is lousy in space the only reason to bring him here is as a edge rusher which he’s not better thatn the guys we have it would be a bad trade for us great trade for them.
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I agree, but Davis has done much worse before.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
We are going to have to dance with who we brung.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Thanks for the reminder Mike, time to head out for some late dinner…You guys enjoy the rest of the night and the day off tommorrow….
1 NATION…
September 4th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I keep saying this and beofre midseason everyone will realize Jarvis Moss is a first rate edge rusher he is the straw that stirs the drink.WE STOLE that kid.
September 4th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
What was wrong with Marshall and why is he gone?
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Most honest question of the year…one we will never know the answer to because Al Davis doesn’t answer to us, he only answers to himself.
And since that is the case, he only has HIMSELF to blame for every single failure of this team since 2003..Everything that has sucked about the Raiders for 8 years, can be attributed to him and him alone..He runs this show, noone can talk any sense into the man. He needs to be held accountable. Not Cable, or Marshall, or anyone else..Its Him..fine, but at least step up AL and take it like a man, like you expect everyone else to do..Which they have by the way.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
MikieG, you the man. You get it. The whole “building a bully” hype is gonna backfire. Gonna get the other teams fired up cause they know this isn’t the 1976, 1980, or 1983 Raiders. They read this schit and laugh, then gameplan on how best to humiliate a once great franchise.
Meanwhile, old man Davis continues to play his ridiculous games, not releasing final cuts, etc. He thinks this still set him apart when in reality it makes a laughingstock of the franchise.
But don’t expect any of the ringers on here to get it.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
119.MikieG Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
You may find this surprising but 1st team D actually stopped the run all preseason
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I still cannot believe this statement…Did you actually watch the preseason games??????????????????????????????????????????
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Yep just rewatched all 4 preseason games and only watched the 1st team defense (and offense). Teams were not running on the 1st team defense like you assume. They only ran on the Raiders when we began rotating out players, namely Kelly and/or Seymour. Go back and watch if you want. You would see the same thing! Pay attention to if Kelly is in or Seymour.
Teams moved the ball, but they did so in the air. Not on the ground. And most of what they did was against a backup player. Not the front line player. MOST!
If you don’t by it. YOU go back and watch the game then come back. 1st team was not getting ran on like you think. In 4 games of play (say 4Qs) I would guess only 3 runs went over 10yds when Kelly and/or Seymour were in the game. (Not counting screen passes but straight runs). I’ll be interested to see what you come back with.
But then again, I doubt if you would come back with anything. Many in here just type sht for the sake of typing.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
ROFLMAO… Mike you win Bruh….
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My wife is like “WTF are you typing so fast…”
Cant explain to her, nothing, you know how women are……This aint gonna be pretty my brothers. I love you all, but even big Rich and Sho-Nasty cant cover man to man, and stop every stunt, and double team..Breshahan is such a pathetic hire that it proves to me, that Al Davis has lost his freakin mind to entrust his multimillion dollar buisness to this man. He is not qualified for the position. There isn’t an O.C in the league who can’t eat this guy for breakfast regarding strategy..
September 4th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Chucky B might as well rush Wimbley and Groves on every down as they both suck in pass coverage.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Dude, Even Big Rich was disgusted…
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Yep just rewatched all 4 preseason games and only watched the 1st team defense (and offense). Teams were not running on the 1st team defense like you assume. They only ran on the Raiders when we began rotating out players, namely Kelly and/or Seymour. Go back and watch if you want. You would see the same thing! Pay attention to if Kelly is in or Seymour.
Teams moved the ball, but they did so in the air. Not on the ground. And most of what they did was against a backup player. Not the front line player. MOST!
If you don’t by it. YOU go back and watch the game then come back. 1st team was not getting ran on like you think. In 4 games of play (say 4Qs) I would guess only 3 runs went over 10yds when Kelly and/or Seymour were in the game. (Not counting screen passes but straight runs). I’ll be interested to see what you come back with.
But then again, I doubt if you would come back with anything. Many in here just type sht for the sake of typing.
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“The 49ers did a good job,” defensive tackle Richard Seymour said. “Give them credit first. I just think we were inconsistent across the board. Ten guys can play right and one guy wrong, and you’re in trouble. We all have to get on the same page and that’s what the preseason is for. We still have a lot of work to do.”
“That’s something that is dear to me,” Seymour said. “If you can’t stop the run, you aren’t going to be successful in this league. If you want to be tough and you want to build a bully, well first and foremost, you gotta stop the run. We didn’t get that done. But, you know, I am optimistic.”
Seymour said there needs to be a stop-the-run mentality across the board on the Raiders, and it’s not there yet.
“It has to be important to the team,” he said. “There has to be a mind-set. If you want to rush the passer in this league, you have to be able to stop the run first. You stop the run in order to rush the passer. Because if a team can run the ball all day, there is no need to pass it.”
September 4th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Don’t know how DHB’s contract has been structured, but I’ve read that most of his guaranteed money was paid in the first two years. If he is a non-contributor this year, then he may get cut next year. At that point, I doubt any team in the league picks him up. If he does make it, he’ll be no better than a fringe player who rarely dresses on Sunday.
Vernon Gholston and Aaron Maybin were high drafts picks, too and both have flamed out. Were they really any worse at their positions than DHB is at receiver? Other teams move forward by cutting their losses. We double down on our losses.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Look Fellas, Im not here to pick fights with fellow Raider Fans…I love all of you guys..I am just trying to illustrate some serious inconsistencies with what we are being told vs what we are actually seeing..
A wise man once said…
“Words are Wind”
September 4th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
I agree on the Marshall thing, it’s not like he was a Cable guy. Al hired him and I believe he was better than Chuck B. We shall see because I don’t put much stock in preseason, especially defense. Defense is so much about attitude and motor. You think the vets motors are running on high in preseason! It’s about getting used to contact again and doing enough not to get hurt. The real season starts next Monday in Denver. All our questions will be answered then.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Actually you don’t have to watch it. I’ll just post the play-by-play for you when 1st team was in the game, OK.
ARIZONA
1-10-ARI 20 (15:00) 26-C.Wells left guard to ARZ 20 for no gain (77-M.Shaughnessy).
2-10-ARI 20 (14:23) 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete short left to 11-L.Fitzgerald.
3-10-ARI 20 (14:18) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb scrambles left end pushed ob at ARZ 35 for 15 yards (33-T.Branch).
1-10-ARI 35 (13:50) 4-K.Kolb pass short left to 85-E.Doucet to ARZ 35 for no gain (24-M.Huff, 92-R.Seymour).
2-10-ARI 35 (13:50) 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete short left to 87-J.King.
3-10-ARI 35 (13:50) 4-K.Kolb scrambles left end to ARZ 39 for 4 yards (93-T.Kelly).
4-6-ARI 39 (13:50) 5-B.Graham punts 47 yards to OAK 14. 89-N.Miller to OAK 31 for 17 yards (23-H.Abdullah).
SUMMARY: Versus AZ, 1st team defense gives up 20yds rushing all of which came on a QB scrambles from Kobb. After this series Kelly/Seymour sit and you have Dez & Henderson subbing w/ McFadden & DVD at corners. They give up 1 run for 15yds on a sweep left TScott’s side (who was tackled/held on the play) and only 7yds thereafter on the next 5 rushing attempts.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Raidervill, that is true…and all excuses must end too.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
The whole “building a bully” hype is gonna backfire. Gonna get the other teams fired up cause they know this isn’t the 1976, 1980, or 1983 Raiders. They read this schit and laugh, then gameplan on how best to humiliate a once great franchise.
Meanwhile, old man Davis continues to play his ridiculous games, not releasing final cuts, etc. He thinks this still set him apart when in reality it makes a laughingstock of the franchise.
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Its absolutely ridiculous. All we ever hear about football is “Its a business” that crap ain’t business..its hairy high school bullsh34t! You think I get what I want in my ‘profession’ by being a BULLY? Get real, we are successful because we have good people around us and take credible council from intelligent, experienced colleagues…Not gradeschool threats.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Hagan is the best WR on the team! Where is he on the depth chart? Nick Miller? The new James Jett. Al Al Al… WTF
September 4th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Agree with all the derisive comments about “building a bully.” Often, in real life, when bullies are confronted, they are revealed to be wimps and cowards.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
“That’s something that is dear to me,” Seymour said. “If you can’t stop the run, you aren’t going to be successful in this league. If you want to be tough and you want to build a bully, well first and foremost, you gotta stop the run. We didn’t get that done. But, you know, I am optimistic.”
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Go get it then Seymour. Get those guys up to stop the run…you are being paid $15MM per year.
You have to lead this team to get it right.
Because another 28thish run defense will = 6-10
September 4th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
SAN FRANSCISO
1st drive:
1-10-SF 23 (14:54) 21-F.Gore right tackle to SF 25 for 2 yards (52-Q.Groves).
2-8-SF 25 (14:17) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 85-V.Davis. PENALTY on OAK-96-K.Wimbley, Defensive Pass Interference, 5 yards, enforced at SF 25 – No Play.
1-10-SF 30 (14:14) 21-F.Gore up the middle to SF 34 for 4 yards (99-L.Houston).
2-6-SF 34 (13:33) PENALTY on SF-76-A.Davis, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SF 34 – No Play.
2-11-SF 29 (13:17) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 46-D.Walker.
3-11-SF 29 (13:12) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 85-V.Davis to SF 43 for 14 yards (40-J.Boyd). Caught at SF 40. YAC 3-yds
1-10-SF 43 (12:53) 21-F.Gore left end pushed ob at OAK 46 for 11 yards (38-D.Van Dyke).
1-10-OAK 46 (12:07) 24-A.Dixon right guard to OAK 43 for 3 yards (93-T.Kelly).
2-7-OAK 43 (11:25) 11-A.Smith pass short middle to 19-T.Ginn to OAK 37 for 6 yards (93-T.Kelly) [99-L.Houston]. Caught at Oak 38 YAC 1-yd
3-1-OAK 37 (10:29) 24-A.Dixon right guard to OAK 35 for 2 yards (99-L.Houston).
1-10-OAK 35 (9:46) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to 81-B.Edwards (33-T.Branch).
Timeout #1 by SF at 09:39.
2-10-OAK 35 (9:39) 24-A.Dixon right end to OAK 23 for 12 yards (26-S.Routt).
1-10-OAK 23 (9:00) 24-A.Dixon left end to OAK 22 for 1 yard (33-T.Branch).
2-9-OAK 22 (9:00) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 81-B.Edwards to OAK 8 for 14 yards (38-D.Van Dyke; 24-M.Huff). Caught at Oak 14 YAC 6-yds
1-8-OAK 8 (7:36) 24-A.Dixon right tackle to OAK 6 for 2 yards (93-T.Kelly; 52-Q.Groves).
2-6-OAK 6 (6:59) 21-F.Gore up the middle to OAK 2 for 4 yards (55-R.McClain).
3-2-OAK 2 (6:15) 24-A.Dixon left tackle to OAK 2 for no gain (77-M.Shaughnessy; 27-S.Brown).
4-2-OAK 2 (6:15) (Field Goal formation) 4-A.Lee FUMBLES (Aborted) at OAK 10, and recovers at OAK 10. 4-A.Lee pass INTERCEPTED by 55-R.McClain at OAK 5. 55-R.McClain to OAK 10 for 5 yards (62-C.Rachal).
2ND DRIVE:
1-10-SF 19 (4:02) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 84-J.Morgan (52-Q.Groves).
2-10-SF 19 (3:56) 24-A.Dixon right tackle to SF 28 for 9 yards (77-M.Shaughnessy).
3-1-SF 28 (3:18) 24-A.Dixon left guard to SF 30 for 2 yards (92-R.Seymour).
1-10-SF 30 (2:35) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 84-J.Morgan to OAK 38 for 32 yards (33-T.Branch) [93-T.Kelly]. Caught at SF 45 YAC 17-yds
1-10-OAK 38 (1:49) 32-K.Hunter up the middle to OAK 31 for 7 yards (27-S.Brown; 73-J.Cumbie).
2-3-OAK 31 (1:14) 32-K.Hunter left guard to OAK 15 for 16 yards (33-T.Branch). PENALTY on SF-77-M.Iupati, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at OAK 31 – No Play.
2-13-OAK 41 (:51) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 85-V.Davis to OAK 36 for 5 yards (40-J.Boyd). Caught at Oak 36. YAC – 0-yds
3-8-OAK 36 (:09) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass intended for 85-V.Davis INTERCEPTED by 77-M.Shaughnessy at OAK 26. 77-M.Shaughnessy pushed ob at OAK 37 for 11 yards (46-D.Walker).
SUMMARY: 14 rushes 59 yds averaging 4.2ypc. I always considered SF a tough rushing team. And they did not disappoint. They got us.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I don’t even need to post N.O.s cause they sure as hell didn’t run on the 1st team. Nor did Seattle. But if you want me to I can post.
SF was the only team that got ‘em. And I think they have long been one of the better rushing teams in the league. At least when Ive seen them they’ve always been tough on the ground.
Thats why I’m saying teams did not run on us like many assume. 1 team in 4 games. AZ didn’t, N.O. didn’t and Seattle didn’t. Strictly talking about 1st team defense.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
you guys kill me with your thinking we all know Hagan,Bennett,R.Brown and cartright are on the team regaurdless of Raiders. com says also regaurding hurt players did you here Mitchell if this was S.B would play all pre season Coach Hue been saying all pre season if guys were hurt or even sore where can aggervate something wont play pre season what is the purpose? He knows what they can do why do you need them to play in a pre season game As I said before this is the same team as last year maybe a little more better on Offence so why all of a sudden you guys make commets like cut MM34 for Brown where you watching the Pre Season Brown, Mc Fadden, J Ware werne’t exactley playing football that why there gone…
September 4th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Just for the record. N.O. averaged just above 3ypc vs the starters and Seattle averaged 2ypc vs the 1st team. Just food for thought.
Seattle was killing us on the screen pass (blame Chuck B here). N.O. was killing us through the air (mostly vs DVD). AZ was only moved the ball vs DVD & McFadden. None of these team did what I would consider ‘ran it down our throats’. Just SF came close.
September 4th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Just Win Baby!
September 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Rickey Brown back did you here what he said he was hoping to be back with Hue and the Raiders would contribute on ST whatever we needed. Thats the kinda players you want also you guys seen him play he’s not like useless, who you want at OLB R.Brown or Groves?
September 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I’m putting my two year old to bed now & I’m on my phone. Thanks for the discourse all & Terrapin all I can say is that I hope your theory proves correct and that for the sake of argument let’s assume our run d is a brick wall. IMO everyone else decided to pass against us because that was what they like to do. We are toast against any good running team like the 9ers, Vikes, Steelers, AND Good passing teams…Saints, Pats, Chargers. Whatever the opposition does well, we capitulate instead of dictating our dominance. We dominate nothing defensively.
I gotta put this kid to bed. Love you guys.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
At least with the pseudo-depth at WR the starters should be on short leashes. A few dropped balls and one would hope they get pulled in favor of the backups.
Rickey Brown = not a bully
September 4th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
153.MikieG Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I’m putting my two year old to bed now & I’m on my phone. Thanks for the discourse all & Terrapin all I can say is that I hope your theory proves correct and that for the sake of argument let’s assume our run d is a brick wall. IMO everyone else decided to pass against us because that was what they like to do. We are toast against any good running team like the 9ers, Vikes, Steelers, AND Good passing teams…Saints, Pats, Chargers. Whatever the opposition does well, we capitulate instead of dictating our dominance. We dominate nothing defensively.
I gotta put this kid to bed. Love you guys.
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We’ll see. I do worry about teams such as the Vikes and the better rushing teams in the league. Same goes for the better passing teams (although hopefully we can mount a pass rush to counter). We’ll see. The season begins in less than a week. No turnin’ back now.
I think the run defense has improved. Its not great but its better. The pass defense has taken a step back but they may manage. I worry most about the nickel CB position.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Man, always a ton of excuses for our bad defense going around in here.
Makes me sick.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Things better fkn change in Denver next Monday night or we are in the hunt for Luck.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Outside of a couple of teams gashing us last year we weren’t that bad. We probably had 25 plays that skewed the run D stats yet and still we have to be more consistent is my opinion.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Change from what the PRESEASON??????
You can count on it…
September 4th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
# Howard Cosell Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
The kid made a lot of big clutch plays last year….How bad of a camp did Stevie Brown have?
It’s ridiculous to loose this kid – great special teamer..Wonder how the injury to Mitchell forced the Raiders to keep Boyd versus Brown.
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Getting rid of Stevie Brown and keeping an old vet like Bennett who doesn’t play special teams is STUPID!
They already have Cartwright as a backup RB and vet presence! Cartwright is valuable on special teams also!
Why is N Miller still on the team ahead of Stevie Brown also??
Old man Al up to his same old dumb crap again when it comes to roster moves!
Firs person who should have been cut is CHUCK B pretending to the DC! hahaha
September 4th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Things better fkn change in Denver next Monday night or we are in the hunt for Luck.
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Yep!
It’s critical the Raiders win their first two road games of the season.
If they don’t and if the Chuck B led defense causes to lose those first two games??
Oh Oh…..Raiders will be looking to get LUCK-Y in next years draft!
September 4th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
If DHB gets major snaps then The donkey game is a dicey proposition. If DVD plays nickel then the Orton will make him pay for his inexperience.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Can someone tell me why DHB is listed higher on the depth chart then Hagan??
WTF?
Oh I know why…old man Al isn’t ready to look foolish yet for reaching like crazy for DHB during that draft!
LOL!!
September 4th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
The donkeys being a 3 point home favorite tells you that perception is not reality.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Hey everyone, I just made a fantasy league on NFL.com
For anyone interested, the league name is “World Wide League” and it’s an open league so anyone can join no password needed. Just sign in. It’s autodraft schedule for Sept. 6. But will move it back if more teams are needed.
There’s 10 spots open right now. League of 12.
It’s a league just for fun and the winner gets bragging rights.
Feel free to join if you like.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Dakota Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Man, always a ton of excuses for our bad defense going around in here.
Makes me sick.
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We know what the problems are (I hope). But nothing will change until a certain person vacates the front office.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
I know there are a lot of you who are shaking your head why Davis dumped Cable.
I know there are a lot of you shaking your head why Davis let Marshall go.
I know there are a lot of you who wonder why Davis split the sheets with Nnamdi.
I know some of you wonder why our leading reciever of the last few years was not kept in house.
And I know some of you wonder where we got better on D.
And I know there are a lot of you who blame Cable and Marshall and Nnamdi that we didn’t make it to the Super Bowl last year.
Well, I for one just scratch my ass as to why Davis did what he did. What the fck was wrong with Cable getting the guys fired up to play? If you dont have a hard on for Al Davis, I would expect an honest answer.
This pre-season was pure horse sh11t. Stats and wins and losses dont mean a hill of beans, but attitude does. This team looks quiet.
Why is Marshall gone. How is Chuck B an upgrade over Marshall? Answer: he aint.
And why is Davis forcing Hue Jackson to put DHB at #1 on the depth chart? Has Davis seen DHB play? I have seen every pre-season game and I think DHB should be #4. And you know who 1, 2 and 3 are.
We are toast at the corners. Toast. Especially if we play man to man, we are burnt toast.
Our wide recievers need to learn how to “hot read”. We are simply brutal on the blitz. That is why we are fcking sacked every time. Ever notice how we’ve been burned every time we’ve blitzed this pre-season?
This team is young, very young, with little vet leadership. Very young team. So don’t expect to much out of these yougsters.
But bless Als’ heart. In a few years if he has the wherewithall to keep this team together, along with the coaches, we might be good. But only if Al does’t lose his cool and fire the coaches for cause or whatever, and then throw them under the bus. Now that is what Al is good at these days.
September 4th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
# morilla Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Dakota Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Man, always a ton of excuses for our bad defense going around in here.
Makes me sick.
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We know what the problems are (I hope). But nothing will change until a certain person vacates the front office.
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Yep!
Is it too late to bring back Marshall as DC. He isn’t working right now is he? Jesus!
September 4th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Not winners, just yes men
come on Mr Davis
September 4th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who had more touchdowns last year than DHB has had in his whole career.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Sounds like Al Davis wants some air time on hard knocks.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I’m gonna come out and say it now.
I fully expect the Raiders to regress (especially defensively under a bum like Chuck B) as the DC this year!
They will go 6-10 or 7-9 at best.
I would LOVE for them to prove me wrong though!
September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who had more touchdowns last year than DHB has had in his whole career.
And Davis considers DHB a starter….
This is the reason we s)ck.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
anybody remember me saying muliple times i thought we should have brought back ricky b? good move. he’s a nice little real LB and he’ll help on ST too. the combo of brown, davis, and blackstock isn’t exciting but it’s ok. with the starters out there, i think the defense (run and pass) will be good. not great maybe but good. and last year’s pass rush was great. same guys. i think it will great again.
very excited about monday’s game.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
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September 4th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
whatever
September 4th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Ricky Brown is great if you’re into linebackers who can’t tackle in space.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
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September 4th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
ricky isn’t a superior athlete but he plays forward. he goes to the ball, like a real LB. he’s the a savior but he’s a fine backup.
September 4th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
not the savior
September 4th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
This is a bad football team. Our defense SUCKS. Period and end of story.
Our offense has potential to be awesome but we have a QB that questions whether he should throw the ball to wide open receivers in the end zone, and we have a GM who despite EVERYTHING that is obvious to ordinary observers, decides to force an unqualified wr into the starting line up, over wr’s who are obviously better. That means that we have big problems.
Our defense makes stars of ordinary players. Listen, if this defense (1st team mind you) can’t even stop Tavaris freaking Jackson, then darn right everyone should be more than concerned.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
The hiring of Chuck B as DC is going to cost this team a shot at improving from last seasons success!
Chuck B is a BUM…PERIOD! Until proven otherwise!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
What a bunch of self projected nonsense this blog has become. The disease of hating and pessimistic people on their rants. This mantra of thinking, will take you under the poverty line folks and your football team will mean nothing. Take a second really! Preseason?
September 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Gerard,
Save it for a week from Tuesday. Then, you can either tell us “I told you so” or you can decide to keep it to yourself. You can’t use preseason as a barometer for vets. Most f them are playing not to get hurt. They actually care less if they win or lose. They all get paid the same $1,000. per player. Do you really think the 1’s are going to bust their ass for a measly grand and possibly risk season ending injury? I think not and in the games I watched, it showed. There was very little effort given by the vets. They only ones who took those games seriously were those playing for a roster spots 43 to 53. They rest were already assured of their spots on the team.
You have a 50/50 chance of being right. If they are the schits, we’ll lose and you can then rag our asses. If we turn out OK and win then I guess you’ll know how to handle it.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I agree with DKnight007. C. Bresnahan is a definite step backwards.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
God damn that Tom Cable for keeping his pets Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele as starters and for Nick Miller to be on the team!!!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Carlisle & Satele will be replaced sometime this year. So will Barnes. I envision a lineup of Veldheer, Herey, Wiz 2.0, BCampbell & Barksdale. It’s going to happen sooner than later. I’m very surprised NMiller made the cut. I don’t think that will be the case for long.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Heyer
September 4th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Sterling Moore needs to join the 53. He’s a natural and we have definite needs of his skills.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Looks like the Davis worshipers are in full melt-down mode. Usually doesn’t happen till about week 3.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
We still need a starting WLB. Do something Al. Groves is NOT the answer.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
182,lets see how the D performs,week one vs Denver,give the friggin DC a break,not a REAL game has been played.JB,disagree with 185,wait and see,gosh darn it!You ALL have a great Labor Day,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
September 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
190.Sullivan44 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Looks like the Davis worshipers are in full melt-down mode. Usually doesn’t happen till about week 3.
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Lets everybody meltdown, come on. Melt melt melt melt melt down.
I says everybody melt melt melt melt melt down.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Let’s see how DHB performs in our opener, maybe he’ll surprise us. It could have been worth, what if we had drafted Crabtree as many people here wished we had. At least DHB has the size, the speed and the willingness to work extremely hard to improve. Lets hoped the major improvement starts during our opener.
To all Raider fans…have a good Labor Day with your family and friends and drive with care. Good Nite.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, chill out dudes! Raiders will have everyone of you whining nannies feeling mellow after that Monday night game..You guys are like little nerds before they hit their first blunt, all jittery at first but once the Raiders lay it down(ie hitting the blunt) you guys will all be like…”Damn, waddup Marvin Gaye? Tell these other Raider fans what’s really going on”
September 4th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Hagar The Horrible Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Let’s see how DHB performs in our opener, maybe he’ll surprise us. It could have been worth, what if we had drafted Crabtree as many people here wished we had. At least DHB has the size, the speed and the willingness to work extremely hard to improve. Lets hoped the major improvement starts during our opener.
To all Raider fans…have a good Labor Day with your family and friends and drive with care. Good Nite.
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agreed on the DHB thing, the kid just flat out works…Likewise to you and yours brother, have a safe one.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
If DHB can make three grabs and cause two PI’s per game, Im’m alright with that as a third receiver. But not as a starter on monday, let Chaz make his destiny complete by getting hurt. If he gets hurt DHB stays, if not he goes when Murphy gets back.
September 4th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
oh yeah by all means if Chaz is ready to go and work at a level that he’d be effective at, let him start in front of DHB. Chaz has hands and like you said if he gets hurt then, meh he’s Chaz man. Throw DHB in there, I hope we see alot of Moore in game one also.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:06 am
I saw DHB get straight tackled during the SEA game on a double move, Denver still has to account for Al’s toys. Jacoby is going to tear it up on Monday and Moore in the seam on slants. You guys will see all waepons but Boss on display. Not drinking the Kool-aid but modeo baby.I will be there in Clubs seats
September 5th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Usually the Davis worshipers don’t start flinging their excrement around the room until about week 3. Wonder what’s bugging them so early in the season this year.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Well see what they do when were 2-0 and coming home right? Just complain or step up for a couple buy one get one f—ing free tickets.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:52 am
Or when they decide to move would you favor city of industry with tailgating for fans or Downtown LA with exclusive lunch for 4 at la live and 200 bucks before the game starts? Oakland vs. LA, we’ll see Ive had season tickets from 2000-2008, now I spend a grand and go to away games, due to my area code.
September 5th, 2011 at 1:09 am
MR, I’m pleading please let Dvrick have a dirt nap, I dont mind siver sack or the others.
September 5th, 2011 at 2:07 am
Blog Operator, won’t you please add ‘310 Raider-Scum’ snd ‘Willflo818′ to the list of MR aliases on the ‘Sticky Sock Puppet’ list please? Will you be a sweetheart and do that please? Thank you in advance.
September 5th, 2011 at 2:13 am
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(2AM) This story broke when hererra was on his way to get the order correct but had to make a quick stop in the emergency room. No proctologists were available so he was given a can of prune juice by a member of the hospital staff and told not to come back til the Raiders had something they could stand up for.
September 5th, 2011 at 2:25 am
The Man With Two Brains, mike the moderator says take a dirt nap or have one more pabst blue ribbon, will yeah!
September 5th, 2011 at 2:32 am
September 5th, 2011 at 5:59 am
The players hate preseason games, they’ve been trying to cut the exibition games for years… I’m not putting to much into our preseason and the players have said as
Much for years…Next Monday night will be the test for me… But right now I’m gonna look forward to ” Stomping the Donks”…..Something like : ,
Raiders 38… Donks 17…
September 5th, 2011 at 6:45 am
LoL Erik Pears is the starting right tackle for Buffalo… our ends are going to eat that up!
September 5th, 2011 at 6:51 am
We should start off 2-0
September 5th, 2011 at 7:13 am
SHOULD?!??!?!? wtf?
September 5th, 2011 at 7:24 am
I would do back-flips if we started 2-0.
I would be happy to start 2-2, and split both road games and home games.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:32 am
OH my bad LA i mean we WILL start off 2-0
September 5th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Higgins got the axe from Philly. Al will pick him up I am sure ha ha.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:38 am
The Raiders have a good shot at starting 2-0 and a decent shot at 4-0 albiet not very likely.
Denver only concerns me running 3-4 WR sets. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe they were practicing this a lot in the preseason.
We are too light at CB that we are using Huff as a hybrid. I expect a new CB to be signed at the latest 1 week into the season (maybe Lito or the Ealges CB). We are simply not in a great position here and hoping Huff can hold up as the 3rd CB until DVD is ready.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:38 am
DKnight007 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
The hiring of Chuck B as DC is going to cost this team a shot at improving from last seasons success!
Chuck B is a BUM…PERIOD! Until proven otherwise!
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so true, but its also a step backwards that we didnt keep cable for just one more year.. let Hue do his magic on O, and let Cable take the heat.. and yeah let John Marshall improve our poor blitz-history..
But No, Al wants do eff up what good we had going, hires Chuck B, and re-hires the wrong player.. thank you very much Al, this year again we wont get over the 8-8 hump
September 5th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:24 am
I would do back-flips if we started 2-0.
I would be happy to start 2-2, and split both road games and home games.
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he11 me too, but right now Im just hoping we AT LEAST are going 1-3, but I doubt it..
September 5th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Losing Nnam really hurt. WMcFadden just wreaked so bad they had no choice but to cut him. If WMcFadden actually made progress from last year we would be in a much better position. And I wouldn’t be so concerned.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:45 am
There must be a CB and LB in the cards for us.
It explains why we have 5 RB’s and 7 WR’s.
If we can pick up some guys who can help on D then Nicky Miller the DB Killer is done and so is that chump RB from SD.
In fact Miller is done as soon as Chaz and Murphy are 100%.
In addition one of those TE’s is gone once Boss gets back. Maybe freeing up a slot for Pryor.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:46 am
..and Sam Williams gets the axe and none of the dudes calling for his neck are cheering?
September 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Yeah Nnamdi hurts.
Too bad Al used the freed up cash from his termination and didn’t pick up new free agents but overpaid existing guys like Huff, Stan Routt and Wembley.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
I think Bennett will be axed when Pryor gets healthy.
There were some crazy roster positionings by some of these teams.
The Packers kept 5 TE’s, and 6 OLB’s, and 10 total LB’s.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Sam Williams may be back. They probably haven’t even cleared his locker. They do this every year seems like.
You are right though. Bennent and chances are N.Miller will be gone (its between Miller & Hagan) replaced by a CB and LB (who will likely be Williams).
September 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
I’m hoping to be wrong, but Wimbley looks poised to take a major step backwards this year.
He looked awful in the preseason.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I remember when we kept 10 DB’s and CJ was the last guy on the list and nobody understood him not getting cut. Then he proved himself. Let’s hope there is a method to the madness.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Guy to watch out for in the Denver game is Eric Decker.
Big-tall, Ed McAffery type slot guy that might give us some fits.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
TERP ok that’s why the Sam Williams haters have not yet rejoiced!
September 5th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Man, 6OLB’s!!!! And 5 TE’s!!! Holy smokes. Of course, I’m more interested in those LBs.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Just read that in Seattle, Rober Gallery has 91 career starts.
The combined rest of the offensive line (starters and backups) have 27 career starts.
Should be interesting up there.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
221.BabySlash Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Yeah Nnamdi hurts.
Too bad Al used the freed up cash from his termination and didn’t pick up new free agents but overpaid existing guys like Huff, Stan Routt and Wembley.
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That’s it in a nutshell.
The good news is that Al has been drafting better in the last couple of years. In 5 of 8 drafts before, Al chose DBs in the first round. That is one of the reasons we s#cked so bad.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Wimbley needs to work on some new moves. I’m tired of seeing that speed rush and dip from the outside.
The guy is one athletic freak though. Holy smokes. I can only dream of being that athletic and I’m in pretty good shape.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Just read that in Seattle, Rober Gallery has 91 career starts.
The combined rest of the offensive line (starters and backups) have 27 career starts.
Should be interesting up there.
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They also have Zach Miller, he should count for something.. I hate Al for not re-signing him…
September 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
ZMiller? We aren’t missing anything. I really don’t care about that one. Boss is more than adequate. Plus the WR corp has come alive (less need for a TE). I don’t think we skip a beat from losing ZM.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Only compounds the problem. Zach can’t block.
September 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:54 am
221.BabySlash Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Yeah Nnamdi hurts.
Too bad Al used the freed up cash from his termination and didn’t pick up new free agents but overpaid existing guys like Huff, Stan Routt and Wembley.
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That’s it in a nutshell.
The good news is that Al has been drafting better in the last couple of years. In 5 of 8 drafts before, Al chose DBs in the first round. That is one of the reasons we s#cked so bad.
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Kirk, get a grip! Al choses the 1st round pick, and he more or les lets the coaches pick the rest.. so why we had good drafts lately is because of Kiffin, Cable and Hue..
That Al dont waste the 1st round pick anymore, is a total surprise, he mostly has for over 30 years..
September 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
I doubt if ZM is even 100%. I’m reading Gates is still suffering from the same injury (and he had it before ZM). Not much lost here in my book. The passing game should keep progressing forward. Nnam was the lost that hurt considering WMcFadden’s stinkiness.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 7:59 am
ZMiller? We aren’t missing anything. I really don’t care about that one. Boss is more than adequate. Plus the WR corp has come alive (less need for a TE). I don’t think we skip a beat from losing ZM.
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what WR corp? and boss, cant block either, he cant run, so he isnt a thread underneath.. we could have hired Todd Heap, and chose Boss, *sigh*
those WR’s we have that might be something, wont be able to because they wont see the field..
September 5th, 2011 at 8:02 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
I doubt if ZM is even 100%. I’m reading Gates is still suffering from the same injury (and he had it before ZM). Not much lost here in my book. The passing game should keep progressing forward. Nnam was the lost that hurt considering WMcFadden’s stinkiness.
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Boss isnt 100%.. he might not even start week 2, now! what a signing!! yeah!!
September 5th, 2011 at 8:03 am
im going for a smoke and a breath of fresh air, im pissed we gonna wait another 5 year to be in hte playoffs..
September 5th, 2011 at 8:04 am
I am this ! close to starting
PLUNKETTHEADS RAIDER HATER LIST
Who wants to be #1 on the list.
LMN come back in here
September 5th, 2011 at 8:05 am
PLUNKETTHEADS RAIDER HATER LIST
1) LMN
September 5th, 2011 at 8:08 am
We will miss Stevie Brown.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:09 am
LMN = Seacawk fan.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:09 am
LMN said so why we had good drafts lately is because of Kiffin, Cable and Hue..
lol lane does not belong on that list. Cable & Hue have had super drafts.
Lane = Brady Quinn
September 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
239.La Milicia Negra Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 8:03 am
im going for a smoke and a breath of fresh air, im pissed we gonna wait another 5 year to be in hte playoffs..
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Translation: My BF Bjorn just got here. I’ll be back after he manscapes my Euro Zone.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Actually Boss is a little faster than ZM, can catch and block (reportedly better han ZM). His stats are also comparable to ZMs. Now we used ZM a lot more than the Giants used their TEs but you look at the ypc and Boss is significantly higher than ZM. ZM was slow. He was a very good TE don’t get me wrong, but he wasn’t the best thing since slice bread either. He was great at running routes and finding the open spot.
I’m not sure if you got to watch the preseason games but the passing game is significantly better than last year. So much better that I doubt ZM would have been used as much much as he was in the past.
Again, I don’t think this team misses ZM as much as Nnam. ZM has already been replaced. Outside of the coverage that Nnam provided what really hurts with losing Nnam is depth. Last year we had CJ coming off the bench for depth. Thats a damn good corner coming off the bench. Now we have DVD. DVD isn’t at CJs level yet.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
willflo818 Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, chill out dudes! Raiders will have everyone of you whining nannies feeling mellow after that Monday night game..You guys are like little nerds before they hit their first blunt, all jittery at first but once the Raiders lay it down(ie hitting the blunt) you guys will all be like…”Damn, waddup Marvin Gaye? Tell these other Raider fans what’s really going on”
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That’s trippin’ dude. Yeah, pass that blunt–over to Alameda where the front office remains in a 20 year narcotized haze.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Colts announced they have suspended gameday consultant Jim Tressel the first six games of the season.
5 minutes ago
September 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
We kept Bennett, Miller & Porter over Brown, Williams & Ware?
Puke!
is Hue Flapgums fired yet ???
September 5th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Well I shouldn’t say “significantly” higher ypc Boss vs ZM. Its just higher
September 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Keary Colbert has made the Chiefs 53-man roster.
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yikes!
yet probably still better than half of our wideouts
September 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
There was lots of interaction between Seattle offensive line coach Tom Cable and his former team Friday night at CenturyLink Field, but little — if any — between Cable and Raiders coach Hue Jackson, who was Oakland’s offensive coordinator under Cable last season.
One by one, assistant coaches, administrative staff and players made their way over to Cable for warm pregame greetings. Included were safeties Stevie Brown and Tyvon Branch, defensive tackle Richard Seymour, fullback Marcel Reece and quarterback Kyle Boller.
Coaches who talked with Cable included running backs coach Kelly Skipper, linebackers coach Greg Biekert, wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal, special teams coordinator John Fassel and strength and conditioning coach Brad Roll.
Kicker Sebastian Janikowski came over to exchange greetings with Cable and Seahawks guard and former Raider Robert Gallery, who also was talking with former linemates Jared Veldheer and Cooper Carlisle.
Jackson and Cable, however were running from goal line to goal line on different sides of the field, and if there was any communication between them at all, it was brief.
Former Raiders tight end Zach Miller did stop and talk to Jackson, removing his headphones for a brief chat.
Cable explained his tenure in Oakland this way in a Seahawks Gameday cover story this way:
“We had a good thing going in Oakland,” Cable said. “We were close, and we all cared about it. We
went through a lot together, and then it all changed. So that’s life.”
Said Gallery: “I enjoyed my time in Oakland, but when this opportunity came along, I knew it was a great choice. It was a no-brainer for me.”
September 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Way to bookend the summer: Jim Tressel resigned on Memorial Day, was suspended on Labor Day. Wonder what he’s planning for Halloween.
5 minutes ago
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AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
RT @MikeMcCartney7: So Pryor loses over $100k for his 5 games and Coach Tressel loses $0 for his volunteer position? How is this fair?
14 minutes ago
September 5th, 2011 at 8:29 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
106.TerrapinRaider Says:
September 4th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Raiders updated depth chart:
MLB
55 Rolando McClain
(manual insert) Ricky Brown
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Lol!!!
September 5th, 2011 at 8:29 am
The only regulars still sidelined with injuries are receiver Louis Murphy, safety Mike Mitchell and tight end Kevin Boss.
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Myers, Gordon or Ausberry against Dungver in WK1?
who starts opposite DHB if Murphy is out? Schilens or Ford?
Guessing Boyd plays for MM34 if we run any ‘Big Nickel’
September 5th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Denver won’t be able to handle HueJack’s new offense. Guaranteed!
September 5th, 2011 at 8:33 am
DVD, Chekwa or Porter as nickel corner ???
McFadden, Ware, Sheppard & SMoore ousted ….
September 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Thanks guys!
but let me say this, no one here should question me as raider fan..
I doubt how many of you guys would stay up at 0400 AM so you could see a raider preseaon game..
so shot the eff up, I root for the raiders, you dont care how the raiders fare, you only care about Al.. worship him as a demi-god.. I see him as a man who failed..
September 5th, 2011 at 8:39 am
LMN, “OUCH!”…..Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed!!!
Lol….
September 5th, 2011 at 8:39 am
JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora
Colts announce that Peyton Manning will stop practicing (not that he was going full blast to begin with). Don’t know when he’ll be back
2 minutes ago
September 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
al davis failed? he’s a HOFer.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Sept. 04, 2011 10:32 p.m. – by Eric Gilmore – Raiders place four on injured reserve
WR Shawn Bayes, FB James McCluskey, G Roy Schuening and CB Jeremy Ware were placed on injured reserve Sunday. All four were waived/injured and cleared waivers. Raiders RapidReports
September 5th, 2011 at 8:49 am
You guys remember when Drew Brees got injured and SD let him go???
Now he’s got a SB Ring…
Well…what I’m trying to get at, make a trade for Manning and see if he still has something left in the tank!
Right now the Colts are vulnerable to take that bait!
Do it Al!!
Go out and get Manning!!
September 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Plunkettheads list of semi pros who denigrate the team on a constant basis.
1) Lmn
Who cares if they say they are fans when all they do is moan and piss all over the the owner, the coaches and the players
September 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Dang LMN what’s up with you this mornin. Y u goin hard on peeps
September 5th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Too bad for Schuening and Ware. Guys looked every bit as good as any other depth player at their positions. Ware might have been the Raiders’ third best CB.
September 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
With the suspension of Tressel…certainly makes Pryor’s appeal a little more difficult
September 5th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Patriots | Brandon Meriweather didn’t fit scheme
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:56:03 -0700
New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said the team released SS Brandon Meriweather because he didn’t fit the scheme the same way. “Each year is a new year,” Belichick said. “I just don’t think you can pick teams, pick your players, based on what’s happened in the past. You have to pick them based on what you think is going to happen this year. Brandon played a lot of good football for us. We kept the players this year that we felt would be the best makeup for the 2011 team. It’s not the 2009 team. It’s the 2011 team.”
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September 5th, 2011 at 9:01 am
rob_raider Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
al davis failed? he’s a HOFer.
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Al is the Tiki Barber of GM’s, cant see he is past his prime, Al does not fathom modern football.. since ‘89 how many of his 1st rounders have been truly great players? we have sucked a55 for too many years, and im tired of it.
so many here is fond of one or three special wins per season, but hey so were the lions.. we fight with bamboo sticks against enemies with RPG’s.. Al cant assemble a winning team, and a corp of coaches that other teams envy..
one day a coordinator in oakland, if you are lucky the next day they are only an assistant in another franchise..
Wake up and smell the roses.. the last 5 years i have been spot on, when i predict the outcome of the season, and I get bashed here for it, I get bashed by ignorants whom each year think our season will end with 10 wins..
IT WONT! the best leaders are the leaders who know when to quit, Al will never stop, and we the fans, the players pays for it. most other fans dont even want to smack-talk raider fans anymore, they feel sorry for us, the pity us.. and now we have a Used-Cars-Salesman as HC, who says he wants to make bullies, and what do we get? soft teddybears!
We have heard many raiders players say, “new coach, who says he wanna do this and that” and then they say “heard it all before, and we dont believe it anymore”
how many players have we had since our last post-season? 2-300??, how many coaches? 40-50? we are consistent, we are weak constantly, the finger can only point one way. AL..
A year without Al and we will be in the AFC finale, mark my words!
/LMN
September 5th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Translation: new england is tired of your off field stuff!
September 5th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Plunkettheads list of semi pros who denigrate the team on a constant basis.
1) Lmn
Who cares if they say they are fans when all they do is moan and piss all over the the owner, the coaches and the players
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who care about fans who kiss the ground Al walks on? who each year say we will win 10 games..
I praise realism, not stupidity!
September 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am
#269 Have you considered switching to the Jets? When was the last time they won a SuperBowl?
September 5th, 2011 at 9:09 am
noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am
#269 Have you considered switching to the Jets? When was the last time they won a SuperBowl?
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hey wake up, does it matter, does it matter that Lions never win, that Cardinals havent won a SB, that Bengals suck?
NO, I care about the Raiders, and I want the RAIDERS TO WIN! we wont, why? because those who make the decisions isnt up to par or has lost it, that why!
yeah AL game us the raiders, its ovedue to pass it on..
September 5th, 2011 at 9:13 am
instead of whining about how the Silver & BLACK have failed your expectations, go root for some other team! That’s all I’m sayin’ Why waste your time time rooting for them?
September 5th, 2011 at 9:14 am
http://news.yahoo.com/nearly-40-pct-europeans-suffer-mental-illness-230827577.html
Nearly 40 percent of Europeans suffer mental illness.
LMN is off his meds. lol
September 5th, 2011 at 9:18 am
noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:13 am
instead of whining about how the Silver & BLACK have failed your expectations, go root for some other team! That’s all I’m sayin’ Why waste your time time rooting for them?
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so its enough for you to root for a team that cant win?
he11 yeah I have expectations! I want the raiders to win, you just want them to play, I think its me who should say, go root for another team, real fans want a wining team!
September 5th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Seems like Mitchell is becoming one of those chronically injured players.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Uh,,, the Colts just gave Manning a 99million dollar contract. I’m thinking theyre not gona trade him.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:22 am
it’s enough for me to continue to love the team i love, come heck or high water… that’s what love for your team means (at least to me) I personally can’t imagine rooting fo some other team, no matter how angry at times i get at the Raiders. Maybe you’re upset about something personal and you’ve come here to vent… understandable.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:27 am
wasbanned Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:14 am
http://news.yahoo.com/nearly-40-pct-europeans-suffer-mental-illness-230827577.html
Nearly 40 percent of Europeans suffer mental illness.
LMN is off his meds. lol
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well, the same numbers go for US, I think thats what the modern world is..
euorpe has 38% according to your article, of 527m people, have in mind in that survey many of the people are from the former sovjet-block, which means poverty on grand scale, and wars..
in the US its 35% and with many not counted for due to lack of social registration..
SO I guess, if you go to Aurstralia, Japan, what ever part of the world, I think the number will be around 40% most of the time..
I guess it was like that 200 years ago too, then we just didnt have the time and science to care for such things..
September 5th, 2011 at 9:29 am
noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:22 am
it’s enough for me to continue to love the team i love, come heck or high water… that’s what love for your team means (at least to me) I personally can’t imagine rooting fo some other team, no matter how angry at times i get at the Raiders. Maybe you’re upset about something personal and you’ve come here to vent… understandable.
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me too, I would never root for another team, and I dont have to prove it, but as a fan, you damn well should demand wins! if its just a past time, then go watch baseball!
September 5th, 2011 at 9:31 am
If I stopped being a Raider fan I would stop being a football fan. I dont know how anyone can switch teams.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I have no problem with what LMN is saying. Critiquing this team does not mean your not a fan of the team.
I think there are a few posters here who genuinely hate the Raiders….I don’t think this poster is one of them.
Its been awful the last 20 years…no doubt…and this is a blog to discuss ALL things Raiders.
Not just sit up here and say..
“I love the Raiders”
“No, I love the Raiders more”
“I got you beat…I love the Raiders even more”
Get a backbone folks….
September 5th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Hope the rest of your day goes better for you LMN…GO Raiders!
September 5th, 2011 at 9:35 am
“I feel good, I feel great,” Mitchell said. “Everything’s coming along good. The only thing, I’m not going to give a team a tip whether I’m going to play or not. Make them guess.”
Yeah, okay, Mike Mitchell. Because all the teams out there spend their time preparing their gameplan around you and your defensive prowess.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:35 am
let’s see…hmmm… 40% of euros have mental illness…and the largest US population group is the degenerate spawn of the “orts and leavings” of that bunch of mentally challenged folk…add the dregs of the rest of the world…and voila!…we got ourselves a country-sized mental institution.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:38 am
The great thing about this year is that the Raiders are mostly healthy at every position for the 1st time since I can remember.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Raiders might be better off without Al. But it will never be the same. They will be just another corprate NFL team. They may do better…they may do worse. But try to imagine the Raiders without Al Davis and all the strange things that happen. I think he will be missed.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:40 am
A real true fan IMO has every rite to critique there team
it’s the bogus fair. Weather fan that bothers me.
I hope that 2-0 start cures all of us in here
but me I need more than a good start
nothing less than Div champs an playoffs
is what I expect.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:48 am
A 1-0 start will be almost transformative for the psyche of this team and its fans.
Its about changing the mindset with this team too.
And a 1-0 or 2-0 start should finally get the comotose fans of the Bay Area to the stadium
September 5th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Question is hhow many are going to stop watching or being football fans if theleague continues to impose these stupid rules. Hitting WR in the act of catching the ball. Hitting the QB in the act of throwing and so on. I dont know how much more they can change the game before I have to stop paying to see it.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:49 am
I guess some of us here would rather do something about what we don’t like, instead of whining and complaining about it. If I don’t like something, I change it.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Raiders might be better off without Al. But it will never be the same. They will be just another corprate NFL team. They may do better…they may do worse. But try to imagine the Raiders without Al Davis and all the strange things that happen. I think he will be missed.
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I totally agree, the reason why I love the raiders, have tons to do with Al, but the reason we are in the quagmire, is also all about Al..
as I said, the greatest leaders know when to step back, to find the exact right time, to know when you have peaked..
..and not knowing what will happen when AL goes is crazy, because we all know the only way he will step back is sadly when he dies.. a corporation this size should know way before it happens what to do..
it could mean we would end up being worse than we are now, I think Al does good in 80% of his doing, the problem is most other teams do 95%, so when we finally get those last 20% right, we will once again RULE!
September 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who caught three times as many touchdown passes as DHB last year.
And DHB is our starter.
Tell me Davis is not an idiot.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
DHB is the starter so hopefully that means the coaches and owner think that he gives the team the best chance to win.
I think there will be shorter leash with the kid because of the talent behind him.
So DHB has to produce…and if JC is not throwing him the ball..he better be in his ear asking for a look.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Just a thought on DHB. We’re all aware of the fact that coaches “game plan” against each other, looking for a weaknesses to exploit. During the preseason, DHB has run a lot of straight long patterns, to the extent that even Chris Collinsworth commented on it and it’s ineffectiveness in his case.
Maybe Hue has been setting the Donkeys up for Monday night. With that in mind, don’t be surprised if all the patterns run by DHB are opposite of what he’s run. Maybe comeback patterns, slants, curls, anything to get him the ball and let him run, using his strength and speed. That’s my call, hope I don’t have to eat crow next Monday night.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:48 am
A 1-0 start will be almost transformative for the psyche of this team and its fans.
Its about changing the mindset with this team too.
And a 1-0 or 2-0 start should finally get the comotose fans of the Bay Area to the stadium
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nothing would be more fantastic, than if I was wrong about the 1-3 start, and thats even stretching on my part, I fear a 0-4 start : /
but to go 2-2 would be amazing… (and thats my point exactly, isnt that sad, that 2-2 would that great??)
September 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who caught three times as many touchdown passes as DHB last year.
And DHB is our starter.
Tell me Davis is not an idiot.
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let me get this right? you think Al is smart because he would not do that? or do you think Al IS an idiot, because DHB is our starter, and other teams dump players better than DHB???
September 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Really worried about Chuky B and the D. My first thought is we better run the ball consistently in order to win the game, the O is not built for a shootout. Too much depends on that young O-line, we’ll se if they can shoulder the weight.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
What we saw in preseason was bad football from 2nd and 3rd stringers. They’re all gone now, so I think we’ll see the new HueJack Silver & Black brand of football – only thing that does concern me is special teams returns and coverage.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Post 279….Exactly: A true Raider fan might criticize a little bit, but for the most part a loyal fan defends every move, every player, everything about the team as if we made each decision ourselves…………..in my mind there is only one team, one way…..the Raider way and I will find good in everything the organization does………..
September 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Someone tell Mike Mitchell this is the last train. make an impact or look for a job elsewhere next year kid.
September 5th, 2011 at 9:58 am
2-2 would meet expectations. I personally don’t think this Raider team is good enough yet to be able to expect wins against physical teams like the Jets or high powered offenses like the Patriots.
The Raiders have to prove they can physically win in the trenches to beat the Jets…and I am not sure they are there yet.
The thought of Tom Brady facing the secondary of the Raiders gives me a stomach ache
Raiders should beat Denver and Buffalo…no excuses
September 5th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Hagar the Horrible Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Just a thought on DHB. We’re all aware of the fact that coaches “game plan” against each other, looking for a weaknesses to exploit. During the preseason, DHB has run a lot of straight long patterns, to the extent that even Chris Collinsworth commented on it and it’s ineffectiveness in his case.
Maybe Hue has been setting the Donkeys up for Monday night. With that in mind, don’t be surprised if all the patterns run by DHB are opposite of what he’s run. Maybe comeback patterns, slants, curls, anything to get him the ball and let him run, using his strength and speed. That’s my call, hope I don’t have to eat crow next Monday night.
Good call!
September 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Chuky B must be dreaming about playing against Tom Brady and asking for an autograph after the game. The UFL didn’t have players of Brady’s caliber you see.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:05 am
hold-on did they cut WR Hagan?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:05 am
301.
I dont think you define a fan by how he embraces everything someone does or says. There have been plenty of things I havent liked that Al has done. But I relize it’s his team and Im not going to change it. I just sit back and hope it works out and makes it better.
When we first signed Gannon. I my mind he was another retread Qb from another team. I was seriously wrong and glad I was.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
298.La Milicia Negra Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who caught three times as many touchdown passes as DHB last year.
And DHB is our starter.
Tell me Davis is not an idiot.
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let me get this right? you think Al is smart because he would not do that? or do you think Al IS an idiot, because DHB is our starter, and other teams dump players better than DHB???
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Smart teams like the Patriots get rid of players like DHB.
Only an egotistical idiot like Al Davis would keep a player that doesn’t perform.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Al Saunders and Hue are going to unleash Hell this season. Speed kills !
September 5th, 2011 at 10:08 am
well, the same numbers go for US, I think thats what the modern world is..
euorpe has 38% according to your article, of 527m people, have in mind in that survey many of the people are from the former sovjet-block, which means poverty on grand scale, and wars..
in the US its 35% and with many not counted for due to lack of social registration..
SO I guess, if you go to Aurstralia, Japan, what ever part of the world, I think the number will be around 40% most of the time..
I guess it was like that 200 years ago too, then we just didnt have the time and science to care for such things..
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There still is no “science” to care for such things!
Ask any psychiatrist for a test that will show you “mental imbalance” or anything like that. Any other doctor can do that. Do a blood test. Take an x-ray. there is absolutely no proof that one person they put on drugs has any sort of “imbalance” of any chemicals at all…and the so called “medication” doesn’t cure any of it.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:09 am
304.
You mean run the routes he should have been be running all along. My biggest problem with DHB is he doesnt put himself in the best position to make the catch. Like the play you describe that Collinworth commented on. Lots of WR’s in this league make that catch.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
298.La Milicia Negra Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who caught three times as many touchdown passes as DHB last year.
And DHB is our starter.
Tell me Davis is not an idiot.
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let me get this right? you think Al is smart because he would not do that? or do you think Al IS an idiot, because DHB is our starter, and other teams dump players better than DHB???
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Smart teams like the Patriots get rid of players like DHB.
Only an egotistical idiot like Al Davis would keep a player that doesn’t perform.
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I don’t think we should cut DHB at this point. We don’t have 6 other better WRs on our roster. We have 5 other better WRs, so he would be #6.
Sure, it was a heck of a reach in the first round, but he’s better than Nick Miller.
BUT, starting him at this point is really counter-productive in our trying to win.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:11 am
JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora
Rex Grossman will start for the Redskins on Sunday. Decision was made over the weekend. Full story upcoming on NFL.com
3 minutes ago
September 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
I blame coaching for the route running challenges DHB has.
The player is responsible for catching the doggone ball….but I am not sure DHB has been receiving the best coaching either.
He runs way too many deep patterns too. So I hope the coaches use as a football player and not some idealized special weapon that doesn’t exist
September 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
DHB looks horrible on long passes with the ball in the air. Really doesn’t adjust to make the play.
But, from what I’ve seen (and heard) he’s looking much better on shorter routes (i.e. is catching them).
September 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Broncos | Four absent from practice
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:47:17 -0700
Denver Broncos LB D.J. Williams (elbow), DT Brodrick Bunkley (knee), DT Marcus Thomas (knee) and S Quinton Carter (unknown) sat out of practice Monday, Sept. 5.
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September 5th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Over/Under for how many false starts our RT will do on MNF? I’d say 2 and 4 total for the O-Line
September 5th, 2011 at 10:21 am
#317 sounds about right.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:28 am
-BHP’s MUP List-
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
(PS)Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
(PS)B@uce ; Manase Tonga – FB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
(X)Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
(X)BigTed707 ; Chris Francis – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(X)Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
(IR)Carl Weathers ; Travis Goethel – LB
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
(IR)Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
*Da Trinity ; Wiz 2.0 – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
(X)Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
*FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(PS)GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
(X)GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
Hueknows ; DHB – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; David Ausberry – WR
JLofty ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
(X)LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
(X)LMN ; Chris Francis – LB
(X)Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Daniel Loper – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
*M Lonetree ; Stephon Heyer – OL
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
(X)MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
No Mas Diamante ; DVD – CB
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
(X)Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
*Raiderman99 ; Carson Palmer – QB
(X)RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
(PS)Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
(X)RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
(X)Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
(X)SilverAndBlackBleeder ; Stevie B – CB
SilverNBlackPA ; T.Jones – RB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Try Some Reality ; Denarius Moore – WR
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(IR)YoungAmerican ; Travis Goethel – LB
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
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Final MUP list entries and changes will be accepted through WED. SEPT. 7!!!
Entrants who whiffed and want to go for a second chance will get an asterisk.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I choose Tyvon Branch for MUP
Happy Labor Day Raider Nation!
September 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am
WOW, DHB starting again when he hasnt earned it, Joe porter makes the roster over sterling more, nick miller shouldn’t even be in the league, but makes it over a guy like Stevie brown? Resigning Ricky brown, are u kidding me?? So much for hue saying performance on the field wins starting jobs, it’s painfully obvious hue is just another PUPPET just like his predessesors, HUE doesn’t like j Campbell, hue doesn’t like bresnahan, hue knows DHB shouldn’t be starting, hue didn’t want Namdi to leave, it’s obvious who in charge once again, “the old wrinkly crypt keeper” it is really sad what’s become of this once proud franchise, yes we will probably beat Denver week 1, because they stink and are actually worse then us, but don’t get ur hopes up and get caught up in the hype, hues talks a lot of jive about building a bully, making bold predictions, reminds me of another jive talk coach named Joe bugel, I know, I know again some of u will say “preseason games don’t mean jack”‘ but the point is, hue doesn’t have any say over his personal, on who starts, or defensive schemes, so guess what, gonna be another long season, 6-10 if we are lucky. No legitimate coach wants to come to Oakland, if they do they know it’s a stepping stone and audition for another NFL job, they know they will be fired for something they had no control of, they will be thrown under the bus over an outdated overhead projector so al can justify why he doesn’t wanna pay them, we’ve really become the laughing stock of the league and it’s embarrassing to the whole raider nation when this occurs. Some of u will say “get off this post, ur not a real raider fan” truth is Ive been a raider fan all my life, I’m just being realistic and tired of ALS antics, he hasnt made logical decisions ever since he traded away gruden and he truly is holding this franchise back now overpaying for mediocre talent and forcing outdated schemes that don’t work anymore, until some of his yes men around him start standing up to him and tell him to let his coaches coach tell him he needs a legitimate general manager, this team won’t sniff another superbowl run
September 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am
You can teach DHB how to run routes and teach him how to catch. But you will never teach him to be a true WR. Just like you can’t teach speed. You can work on it and improve it but you either have it or you dont.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Big Ted
Will you put me down for Hagen.
Thanks
September 5th, 2011 at 10:36 am
# noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I choose Tyvon Branch for MUP
Happy Labor Day Raider Nation!
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Branch is not eligible.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:38 am
BigTed707 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:36 am
# noteasilyimpressed Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I choose Tyvon Branch for MUP
Happy Labor Day Raider Nation!
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Branch is not eligible.
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why not?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:06 am
298.La Milicia Negra Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Kirk Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The Patriots just released a wide receiver who caught three times as many touchdown passes as DHB last year.
And DHB is our starter.
Tell me Davis is not an idiot.
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let me get this right? you think Al is smart because he would not do that? or do you think Al IS an idiot, because DHB is our starter, and other teams dump players better than DHB???
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Smart teams like the Patriots get rid of players like DHB.
Only an egotistical idiot like Al Davis would keep a player that doesn’t perform.
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yup! thats what I thought you meant! just had to be sure =)
I have a stupid gut-feeling DHB would do good this year, but I still hate the pick, so many other WRs are better than him, so salary, pick and output just dont compute..
September 5th, 2011 at 10:41 am
why not?
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He is an unquestioned starter.
If any of the guys on the list put up 100 tackles, 4 sacks, a forced fumble, and a pick 6 – They would probably win this.
From Branch, this type of performance is expected.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Fans can be loyal to a team win lose or draw, but if something the team is doing making you suffer to a point of being embarrassed, my suggestion is to look somewhere else, I’m sure no one will miss you.
Why live like that, hating Mr. Davis isn’t going to cure you, and probably will make you sicker.
Nothing wrong with criticizing just don’t let the hate get to you.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am
why not?
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Do you see Hue starting any other safety in his place?
Boyd? Chewy? injured MM34?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am
321.
Hue might be the guy that out lasts Al. Al does not look well at all. So the way i see it. This team maybe in a good postion for transition if something happened to AL. We have what most of us would agree is a good head coach. We have some really good young players. If Hue had full control as a head coach you would see some Vet leadership coming in as well as Al’s pets getting the boot. I dont wish anything on AL. Just looks like he’s close to going to the film room in the sky.
September 5th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Did you get mine for Hagen BigTed?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Big Ted, thanks for explanation; please put me down for Richard Gordon.
Good post 328
September 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
PA-RAIDER Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Post 279….Exactly: A true Raider fan might criticize a little bit, but for the most part a loyal fan defends every move, every player, everything about the team as if we made each decision ourselves…………..in my mind there is only one team, one way…..the Raider way and I will find good in everything the organization does………..
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thats where I disagree, a fan can criticize all he will as long he still hopes, his team wins!
im Loyal, but I will till the day I die say most decisions made in the last 15 years are beyond stupid, Seabass, Jammy, DHB, Brayton and so on.. but I will be a raider fan just as much..
its just not fun to be raider fan, and all other teams fans dont even think its fun to smack-talk anymore, they feel sorry, have pity on us..
as I said we fight with bamboo-stick against RPG’s.. and most fans here believe that these Bamboo-stick are fantatic, and we can easily fight of flying granades coming against us..
then again there are some raiderfan who woke up, and saw, “hay man its just sticks”
most raider fans should read HCA’s ‘The Emperors new clothes’
Al, Herrera and all the other yes-men tries to sell us that Bamboo is the most powerful weapon it has been chosen for some great armies in the past, so why shouldn’t it be great now?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Did you get mine for Hagen BigTed?
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Yessir!
September 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Big Ted, thanks for explanation; please put me down for Richard Gordon.
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Right on!
September 5th, 2011 at 10:52 am
BigTed707 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am
why not?
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Do you see Hue starting any other safety in his place?
Boyd? Chewy? injured MM34
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Just didn’t know what the requirements were to choose a player; didn’t see them written down – alright?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:52 am
zopi Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Fans can be loyal to a team win lose or draw, but if something the team is doing making you suffer to a point of being embarrassed, my suggestion is to look somewhere else, I’m sure no one will miss you.
Why live like that, hating Mr. Davis isn’t going to cure you, and probably will make you sicker.
Nothing wrong with criticizing just don’t let the hate get to you.
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Good post here. Everyone gets critiqued and deserves to have their performance crtitiqued…especially when the measure is championships and wins/losses….
but the hatred and crude comments are not healthy
September 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Thanks!
Do the winners get MR’s address?
September 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Just didn’t know what the requirements were to choose a player; didn’t see them written down – alright?
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It’s all good!
September 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Hey Big Ted, can you put me down for D. Moore?
Thanks!
One Nation…Raider Nation!!!
September 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Has Groves been cut yet?
Condo needs a raise!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Big Ted how is the mup game won???
September 5th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Big Ted..
would Jarvis Moss, be an ok suggestion, I mean, Huff wasnt???
September 5th, 2011 at 11:03 am
BigTed, you are going to put an * by the names of the guys who had to change the pick due to cuts, or injuries right?
September 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
what the f#ck is a MUP list you muppets?
I chose Condo what ever it is. He can flat out ball, just sayin’
September 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Pipe Layer…post #321:
As a long time Raiders fan, I hate to admit that most of what you said is actually true. However, because Al has a great history, and the Raiders wouldn’t be the Raiders without Al and for the many positives he’s done over the years, I tend to bury my head in the sand. Ever since the Gruden trade, it appears that Al has gone down hill. Maybe his age, maybe desperation on his part and obviously his “stubbornness” to hold on to and to play players he has drafted even when not warranted. What can we say or do…nothing is going to change. I just hope for the best and keep remembering our great past. No team has ever dominated Monday night football as the Raiders did (15-1) at one point. It’s been many years since we’ve been on Monday night because of our dismal record. Lets hope we win and continue to win and that Al takes more of a “non-involvement” position. (That’s really dreaming!)
September 5th, 2011 at 11:06 am
The MUP list is for the “Most Underrated/Unhearalded/Underdogg Player”
Who is going to come out of nowhere and produce this season? (i.e. D.Hagan v. Saints)
This Player is not an unquestioned starter (By Modern Raiders Standards). Rookies and FA’s Do Apply.
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MUP Point Structure:
Rec/Rush: Td’s = 5pts
Plays over 20 yards = 2pts; 40yards = 3pts; 50yards = 4pts
Poor blocking = (-2pts)
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QB:Td pass = 5pts
Pass over 100 = 2pts; 200 = 3pts; 300 =4pts
Int (-4pts)
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Defense: Pick six= 5pts
Int’s= 4pts
Sacks = 4pts
Pass broken up =1pts
Over 4 tackles = 2pts; 6 = 4pts; 8 = 5pts
TFL = 2pts
FF = 3pts
FR = 3pts
TD’s pass allowed = (-2pts)
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Offense: Most agressive blocker = 5pts
No sacks allowed = 4pts
Sacks given up = (-2pts)
Pre-snap penalty = (-3pts)
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“Heads-Up” Heyer Award = 6pts: awarded to player who showed the best awareness. awarded once a week
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FUMBLE = (-4pts)
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**Anyone may enter, keep your own points – Point Approximation Totals will be estimated at the end of the season, but can be disputed ad nauseam here on the blog. All rules are unofficial and can be changed at any time, comments and suggestions are welcome! No whining will be tolerated – no matter who wins, we all win!
Go Raiders!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Al Davis should be on Mount Rushmore, period!
Gloom and doom, blah blah.
Section 110 all day.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:08 am
# 01rdrfan Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Hey Big Ted, can you put me down for D. Moore?
Thanks!
One Nation…Raider Nation!!!
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Got It!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Big Ted..
would Jarvis Moss, be an ok suggestion, I mean, Huff wasnt???
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Jarvis Moss is eligible. You want to change? you get the asterisk, same as me.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:03 am
BigTed, you are going to put an * by the names of the guys who had to change the pick due to cuts, or injuries right?
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Yup, “*” means your first pick ain’t playin’.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:12 am
I chose Condo what ever it is
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Condo is not eligible for the MUP.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Yup, “*” means your first pick ain’t playin’.
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Excellent…Good job Bro…
September 5th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Thanks Big Ted!
Have a Great Labor Day Raider Nation!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Can a starter like Rolando or marcel count
September 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
# severeraiderz Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Can a starter like Rolando or marcel count
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No, those guys would have been good selections last year.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Hey big Ted were allowing khalif barnes
an Stephen wiz on the MUP list?
Do these guys qualify?
September 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
When was Stephen wiz ever underrated
September 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
The Blog idiots: Terrapin, Brown hole priest, and Lefty wholeheartedly believe DHB is on the cusp of being something great. Anyone that these quixotic cretins believe is going to be great is probably not a legit NFL player. Sadly, if DHB takes major snaps then than then I hope you bet on the Raider win total going well under 6.5. Al kills the team by not only reaching in the draft, but he compounds the problem by refusing to move on from selecting a player that will never live up to Al’s perception. Just watch DHB will get major snaps and DVD will play enough to kill these teams chances to improve..
September 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Clearly Al does not see the abysmal run defense as a major concern either. I do not see one compelling reason why this year the defense will stop the run. Seymour and Mcclain cannot do it alone. Al will never accept that meddling is a key reason this run defense cannot improve. The idiot who talks about that if we remove the 25 big runs the team then we have a great run defense..what kind of logic is that?…stopping the run is stopping the runs of any yardage..classic
September 5th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Blog idiots who think DHB will be a very good player
Terrapin
Lefty
BHP
Plunketthead
September 6th, 2011 at 5:15 am
the key has always been Raider defenders leaving their gaps, to make a big play, and cut back runners like Arian Foster getting big chunks of yardage. They didnt quite shore up the linebacking, but the defensive line rotation is just good enough. Bresnahan’s coverages were always played better than they actually were b/c we had Woodson, and he had Leon Hall and Pro Bowler Johnathan Joseph.
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