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Practice notes, practice squad additions, observations

Just returned from watching practice and got my first look at the 53-man roster. Already, it looks different than the team that was settled upon last night.
The Raiders cut offensive lineman Seth Wand and replaced him on the active roster with veteran linebacker Ricky Brown.
Brown was cut by the New England Patriots and quickly re-signed with the only NFL team he has known his five seasons. For now, he figures to be a backup.

*The Raiders moved quick to sign the following eight players to their practice squad: Fullback Manase Tonga, wide receiver Eddie McGee, offensive lineman Alex Parsons, tight end Kevin Brock, defensive end Mason Brodine, defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie, linebacker Jeremy Leman and cornerbacks Sterling Moore.
All eight players were cut by the Raiders on Saturday and cleared waivers. The Raiders are at full capacity for their practice squad.

*Safety Stevie Brown was cut by the Raiders at the end of training camp last year, but he was re-signed one day later. Not this time.
Brown was cut Saturday, but he signed with the Carolina Panthers and is on their 53-man roster.

*Running back Taiwan Jones switched from No. 36 to No. 22, cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke went from No. 38 to No. 23 and safety Jerome Boyd is wearing No. 30 again after sporting No. 40 during camp.

*Receiver Chaz Schilens is practicing with the rest of his teammates for the first time since he suffered an undisclosed injury against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 11.
At this rate, it would seem likely that he will be healthy enough to play against the Denver Broncos on Sept. 12.
The Raiders aren’t required to disclose the nature of players’ injuries until Thursday. The disclosure day typically is the Wednesday before a game. However, since the Raiders are playing on Monday night, they get an extra day to play the guess-the-injury game.

*Still no sign of receiver Louis Murphy and safety Mike Mitchell. This likely means that they won’t be available for the Broncos game.
Coach Hue Jackson already has said that Murphy won’t play in that game. He has been far less definitive in terms of Mitchell’s status.

*Defensive tackle Richard Seymour is back at practice with the rest of his teammates. He reportedly had a hamstring issue the past couple of weeks. He missed Oakland’s final two exhibition games and several days of practice before today.
Cornerback Chris Johnson also looked fine during practice, and he remains on pace to play against the Broncos.

*Nick Miller was the lone guy returning punts in practice. That portends his handling that role against the Broncos, though there’s still time for Jackson to take a longer look at Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in practice the rest of this week.

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  • Thec07

    Thec07 Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    ohioraider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
    Pryor needs to take his medicine or risk sabotaging his already dicey reputation. I don’t think he fights anything unless he’s put up to it. In which case, the kid is being used. What else is new.

    ++++++++++
    So he should take his medicine…lol

    Reputations can be repaired, see mike vick.

    Earlier you were speaking from a perspective as if you had some extra intel or knowledge about the situation.

    In any of your above statements you have yet to clearly illucidate what NFL policy was violated.

  • Raiders Are my Team

    228.Raiders Are my Team Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    I still do not see where the violation.
    Does the NFL have rules on the books to handle this situation?
    It appears that rosen just exercised a loop hole.

    The NFL is open for litigation…

    —————

    And here is how the battle will take place:

    The NFL and its conspirators will try to turn down Pryors suspension because it is another beat down of Al Davis.

    But Al and his litigious self and his bevy of lawyers will find a way to make the NFLs’ ruling wrong, out of bounds, unconstitutional, so to speak. And they will find a hole, you can bank on it.

    When all this starts to surface in a week or less, Pryors’ suspension will be put on hold and he will now occupy a roster spot.

    In the mean time, Al and his legal team continue to fight the NFL, maybe tossing out the idea Al Davis and the Raiders may even sue the NFL over this. And Al and his lawyers will find a way. Gauranteed.

    With the NFLs’ reputation already tarnished because of the lockout, they toss the suspension into the trash knowing Al won’t settle for anything less.

    What this does to future violations and NCAA rules is anyones guess, but there will be a ‘Pryor’ rule of some kind so the NFL does not have to face this type of embarrassment again.

    Another Al Davis vicory in the courts.

  • Thec07

    I don’t think he fights anything unless he’s put up to it.

    ++++++++

    His Lawyer filed for the right to appeal…Very smart move as the NFL has ZERO grounds to suspend him.
    He did not violate any NFL policy as he was not a member of the NFLPA…Moreover, if i am not mistaken his suspension whould have had to happen after there was an NFLPA formed….Bottom line is the NFL is now open for litigation…

  • FarEastRaider

    I still wanna see Nick Miller off this team! He showed nothing this pre-season…Not A Thing.

  • ohioraider

    OK, guys, you go indulge your little Pryor obsession while the rest of the grown ups move on to something else. Corkran changed the topic.

    And I’m not a lawyer or pretended to be one.

  • jmcclain

    How can pryor not play do to suspension but yet tressel gets a coaching job with no problem. Good move on pryors part. I want to see what he’s got and the qb’s two qb’s we have now i dont see pryor doin much more.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Guys,

    The Pryor thing is done. Regardless of appeal, hopefully he is not playing QB this year. otherwise something went wrong.

    Happy to see Schilens back on the field. Let’s hope he can stay that way. First time we’ve had him to start the season.

    Surprised the Raiders stood pat with the cornerbacks. Absolutely NO DEPTH back there. DVD is not ready yet for prime time.

    Pleased with the Ricky Brown signing. How many O-Lineman is this team carrying?

    Seem real thin at some positions and carrying luxurious amounts in others

  • jmcclain

    FarEastRaider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    I still wanna see Nick Miller off this team! He showed nothing this pre-season…Not A Thing.
    ———————–

    then everyone off this team no one did anything this preseason. Everyone played like crap ( defense ) lets guve it a couole games inti the season.

  • Thec07

    ohioraider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    OK, guys, you go indulge your little Pryor obsession while the rest of the grown ups move on to something else. Corkran changed the topic.

    And I’m not a lawyer or pretended to be one.

    +++++++++++

    So thats your fall back obesession and playing the “grown up card”…lol

    You were the one speaking as if you had some “profound” intel…You just got called on it and resorted to obsession….

    ROFLMAO…

  • Buckeyeraider

    Don’t really like to hear that Nick Miller is still going to be returning punts once the season starts. Especially after watching him boot that KO return vs Sea. His fumble vs KC really kept KC in that game last year in Oakland, forcing Jacoby Fords late game heroics.

    I was really hoping Taiwan Jones would seize that role. He did it in college. He returned both punts and Kickoffs.

    Returning punts seemed to be one way to get that exciting playmaker on the field. Until Dmac pulls a hammy or reaggravates his lingering turf toe, I don’t see T Jones getting THAT many carries behind McFadden and Bush.

    The way that guy can juke and move, that acceleration and flat out speed to burn…seems to me would make a lethal punt returner. Especially with the new rules potentially limiting Jacoby Ford’s impact on Kick returns.

    Nope. Sounds like Nick Miller it is. Kind of a bummer.

  • ohioraider

    You’re an effin moron.

  • ohioraider

    Any game you wanna play on here I’ll eat your lunch, dude. Bring it on.

  • Thec07

    ohioraider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    You’re an effin moron.

    ++++++=

    So now we resort to name calling…ROFLMAO…
    Come on Ohio, we are on a football blog man get a grip…lol

  • RaidingTexas

    Thec Says:

    He did not violate any NFL policy as he was not a member of the NFLPA…

    ————————

    Yep. This has gotten out of hand. I’m all for cleaning up the NFL, but he wasn’t even in the NFL yet. You shouldn’t suspend him for pre-NFL conduct. It’s a bad example to set.

    Could you imagine if you got fired from a company, then another company hires you, but makes you sit around doing nothing for five weeks and not getting paid? It doesn’t make any sense.

  • Thec07

    ohioraider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    Any game you wanna play on here I’ll eat your lunch, dude. Bring it on.

    ++++++++

    Ohio you are sinking further and further Brother…
    You need to relax man, have a cream soda…lol

  • jmcclain

    Wow were all family in here.

  • Thec07

    ohioraider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    You’re an effin moron.

    +++++++++

    Is this adult like behavior name calling? must remind you that you played the “grown up” card. So lets be civil and act like grown ups…lol

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Someone say lunch?

  • MississipRaider

    Yes get nick miller outtta here

  • PLaying 7

    Nick Miller needs to go.. Schillens does to this guy keeps using his injuries..he’s not even good..DHB will be better just teach the guy a fake move on his routes first. Should be using ford in the slot
    I read these posts and master beechum is freaking annoying!

  • http://www.addictedtoquack.com RaiderDuck

    From Twitter:

    SI_PeterKing
    So 2,880 men went to NFL camps this summer; 1,696 made rosters. None named Tiki Barber. And on roster shuffle weekend, his phone never rang.

    =======================

    ROFLMAO

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Look the NCAA is corrupt in its own right.

    Pryor was wrong for what he did in COLLEGE!

    As long as an NFL team was willing to overlook what he did in college and draft the kid and said kid did not break the law….he has every right to play WITHOUT suspension

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Any college football player who thinks that a free college degree is not all that valuable needs to look at that statistic

    “2,880 men went to NFL camp…1,696 made rosters”

    So 1,184 didn’t make it….most of which were kids just out of college….better have a backup plan.

  • Thec07

    ohioraider Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    OK, guys, you go indulge your little Pryor obsession while the rest of the grown ups move on to something else. Corkran changed the topic.

    +++++++++

    SNB, you know I have great respect for your post’s however, per OHIO the “adults” have moved on to the “new topic”.lol

  • hendu

    SnB,I agree with you on Pryor,should be the 3rd string QB.That said,hope we dont see him behind center till next year!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    LOL Thec….the issue with Pryor is certainly one worth debating…but I guess its time to move on.

    Happy to Schilens out there practicing. Team is the healthiest going into the season in the longest time I can remember.

    Offense is healthy, defense is healthy…..let’s roll

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    209.severeraiderz Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Dmn

    They always try to set a new precedent or go around the parameters when an unpopular black athlete is involved….

    Big Ben gets accused of rape three times and uses the off duty cops he employs as security to intimidate his accuser and to tamper with the crime scene…..4 games.

    Pryor “undermines draft process” 5 games

    Don’t talk to me about black and white
    ________________________________________________

    You make a great argument with Ben. And had Pryor done something similar to what Ben had done it would be interesting to see what they would have done to him.
    Goodell simply passed the buck and went with what he would have gotten at the college level and never gave a thought to what the coach was doing. I just don’t see where the racism comes in to play.

  • TheGeneral

    So ricky is back im cool with it now get briggs or tatupu and cut groves

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    DMN,

    The racism, or double standard, is that people looked the other way with Big Ben…even though we all knew what really happened and the worst he gets is 4 games from the commissioner…whereas if the young lady had decided to press charges…Big Ben would have been in the Big House for a couple of years…..like Vick had to go to jail for his conviction.

    THe Commissioner should have come with a more “appropriate” suspension….and with PRyor getting 5 games for a tatoo…is ridiculous

  • FarEastRaider

    @ 10.Buckeyeraider, agreed!

    Miller hasn’t shown any playmaking ability as a returner, in fact quite the opposite with that boot. I’d MUCH rather see Ford, Moore, or T.Jones handle that role. Hells yes! And i don’t see how we need Miller as a WR either with what we have, even with Murph out. I’d rather see Ausberry line up wide or flex DMac out any day! Tired of seeing Miller run 7 yard routes on 3 and 10.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Ricky Brown signing was a very good and sensible one.

    Still need to see another CB signed

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Is Briggs worth a 1st if he plays like Sea?

  • TheGeneral

    80+ tackles 2sacks 2Ints 1ff 6time pro bowler id take a gamble not for a first though

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Nick Miller as strictly a punt returner would seem a bit much.

    However, if they are doing this to keep Moore and Ford healthy then that’s fine….

  • TheGeneral

    I wish we had our second for this years draft if so i would have been all for taking briggs with a second

  • PatchedUp

    @31.
    I disagree. @ his best he is for depth.
    Maybe some ST contribution but I can’t believe there ain’t a player somewhere in the NFL on a practice squad that brings more to the table.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Briggs is not worth a 1st rounder. Period.

    Seymour was only worth a 1st rounder because the Raiders were in such a desperate situation due to the benign neglect of the DT position for so long.

    No on Briggs. RAiders should be looking at a lower cost stop gap at this point

  • PatchedUp

    Holy Run-On Sentence, Batman!

  • Thec07

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Ricky Brown signing was a very good and sensible one.

    Still need to see another CB signed
    ++++

    At this point I would be looking at the waiver wire, or the PS…

    I have to admit I dont like the Ricky Brown sigining however, he does know the system. I would have prefered getting a good young hungry LB hidden on a practice squad….

  • noteasilyimpressed

    my thinking is HueJack doesn’t want to put too much on the rookies (Moore & T. Jones), like punt and KO’s yet. When Miller messes up though, he’ll make the switch.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Patchedup,

    That’s all Ricky Brown is needed for..Depth and special teams.

    Real cheap too.

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    SNB

    Totally agree that Big Ben should have taken a fall. But the argument was that the coach came right into the league without a problem and Pryor has a 5 game suspension. And it was made out to be a black and white thing.
    The league simply enforced the suspension he got in college. Which I don’t agree with.
    But to now compare it to what Ben got doesn’t make any since. Punishment doesn’t fit the crime in either case. But the NFL didn’t set Pryor’s punishment But just enforced it.

  • alex7

    Andre Gurode lands with Baltimore. Road-grader.

  • FarEastRaider

    @ 40.Noteasilyimpressed, u may have a point…but i still don’t like it, lol

  • FarEastRaider

    Ford was put in as a returner last year (rookie season) and did awesome! Let the rooks play. We already know what we have in Miller…nothing special.

  • Thec07

    noteasilyimpressed Says:
    September 4th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    my thinking is HueJack doesn’t want to put too much on the rookies (Moore & T. Jones), like punt and KO’s yet. When Miller messes up though, he’ll make the switch.
    ++++

    I do not like the idea of putting the starters in jeopardy however, based on his performance miller gets the job. He will be on a short leash…Wouldn’t suprise me if he still gets cut…

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    Pryor, Bush, TJones, Mcfadden We should be running a Wing “T”. Drew it up Hue!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Have the bears even suggested what there looking for in a trade?

  • DonManoukiansNeighbor

    A 1st rd I believe.

  • Thec07

    based on his performance miller gets the job.

    ++++++++++++

    Not based on millers performance as he really hasn’t shown much and the rooks have out played him.

    His performance may dictate if he keeps the job…