WR Hagan, RB Bennett not at practice
By Steve Corkran
Monday, September 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am in Oakland Raiders.
Veteran wide receiver Derek Hagan and veteran running back Michael Bennett are not at practice. Why? It’s all guesswork right now.
We won’t have access to coach Hue Jackson and the players until practice ends around 1 or so. Neither player has been hurt of late, so it brings about the prospect of one or both players being waived or excused from practice for personal reasons.
It’s unlikely that the Raiders would cut Hagan, given he was their most productive wide receiver in their four exhibition games. It wouldn’t be so surprising if the Raiders cut Bennett because they already have four other running backs.
Stay tuned on these matters.
*As expected, tight end Kevin Boss, receiver Louis Murphy and safety Mike Mitchell missed practice once again.
Jackson has said that Murphy won’t play against the Denver Broncos in the regular-season opener Sept. 12. He still is holding out hope that Boss and/or Mitchell will recover from their knee injuries in time to play against Denver.
*Receiver Chaz Schilens made it two practices in a row. He is working with the rest of his teammates and showing no lingering effects from the leg injury he suffered against the Arizona Cardinals on Aug. 11.
*Not much else to report from the 30 minutes we were allowed to watch practice.
The Raiders are off Tuesday and resume preparation for the Broncos on Wednesday, with the first of three straight night practices.
The Raiders are bringing in portable lights for the practices. Jackson set the start time for 7:15 p.m. so that his players can get used to playing at that time of night. The Broncos game starts at the same time.
Jackson said he has seen this approach used in the past, when he coached with the Cincinnati Bengals and Atlanta Falcons.
Former Raiders coach Tom Cable was a huge proponent of practicing at the time of an upcoming game. They practiced at night at the Coliseum in advance of a Monday night game against the San Diego Chargers in 2009.
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September 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
1st Pitos!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:21 am
wtf it better not be any funny schit going on with DH
September 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Better not drop hagan or they are stupid!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:25 am
*Receiver Chaz Schilens made it two practices in a row.
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Wow, mark the calendar!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Man, Hagan better still be a Raider! Seriously if Nick Miller is still on the squad but he’s not then it’s obvious that Old man Davis is starting to lose his self from restraining control upon the organization! He’s creeping back into the seems of what’s going on(more so than he has in the past 2 years, he always has a say..). Man I’m hoping Hagan is still a Raider, I hate Nick Miller more than I hate DHB, because he has zero potential, at least DHB has some! Miller plain out sucks, one of the worst punt returners we’ve had in a while..Chris car was better, and he sucked too! gaaaah, can’t believe I’m trippin like this…. “Somebody Stop me!”-The Mask
September 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
If Hagan gets waived Al will have a Raider mutiny on his hands.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:28 am
R8dercain Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Hey big Ted were allowing khalif barnes
an Stephen wiz on the MUP list?
Do these guys qualify?
September 5th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Dropping Hagan would be stupidity. Theres no guarantee that Hagan will amount to anything but we’re desperate for sure things.
DHB – Inconsistent
Schilens – Always hurt
Murphy – Hurt
Ford – Playmaker
Miller – Punt Returner
Moore – Possibly playmaker but needs to be seen in regular season.
This group has a lot to prove as a whole. We need all the help we can get.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Looks like Nick Miller will be the primary Returner. I hope he did A LOt more in practice because it just didnt show up in Preseason.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Don’t trip haggan isn’t going anywhere!
September 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
R8dercain Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Hey big Ted were allowing khalif barnes
an Stephen wiz on the MUP list?
Do these guys qualify?
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Yes – these guys were fighting for their jobs throughout camp. Wiz II is a Rookie, so we don’t know what he’ll be this year. Many still question Barnes as starting RT, especially w/Heyer in the wings.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Im deciding between Scott and DHB for my mup selection…..ill lock it one in tonight
September 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I worry more about the offensive line depth. I thought Loper was a keeper. When the guy was put into the regular season games, her performed. At the end of the day, thats all that matters.
September 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
“he performed”
September 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am
The Blog idiots: Terrapin, Brown hole priest, and Lefty wholeheartedly believe DHB is on the cusp of being something great. Anyone that these quixotic cretins believe is going to be great is probably not a legit NFL player. Sadly, if DHB takes major snaps then than then I hope you bet on the Raider win total going well under 6.5. Al kills the team by not only reaching in the draft, but he compounds the problem by refusing to move on from selecting a player that will never live up to Al’s perception. Just watch DHB will get major snaps and DVD will play enough to kill these teams chances to improve..
September 5th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Clearly Al does not see the abysmal run defense as a major concern either. I do not see one compelling reason why this year the defense will stop the run. Seymour and Mcclain cannot do it alone. Al will never accept that meddling is a key reason this run defense cannot improve. The idiot who talks about that if we remove the 25 big runs the team then we have a great run defense..what kind of logic is that?…stopping the run is stopping the runs of any yardage..classic
September 5th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Not a huge pick up, but glad to see Ricky Brown back. I don’t post often on here…so it’s nice to say I called it
NoPassingZone Says:
September 3rd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
I noticed was Ricky Brown cut from the Patriots. I always liked him, I thought he did well in his limited playing time with us. We could use some help at LB & he’s familiar with our system…
September 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
89052RAIDER Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am
The Blog idiots: Terrapin, Brown hole priest, and Lefty wholeheartedly believe DHB is on the cusp of being something great. Anyone that these quixotic cretins believe is going to be great is probably not a legit NFL player.
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He won’t be great, at all. But come on dude the kid has improved greatly imo. No need to bash our fellow Raider brethren(although saying DHB will be great is pretty idiotic on their part). Let’s wait 2 weeks atleast before we bash DHB this season, eh? WHo knows he may have some good games and guys like us will look quite irrational for killing DHB before he even plays when it matters. Patience dude
September 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am
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Yeah. We are gonna get rid of Russell.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
[...] WR Hagan, RB Bennett not at practice Veteran wide receiver Derek Hagan and veteran running back Michael Bennett are not at practice. Why? It’s all guesswork right now. We won’t have access to coach Hue Jackson and the players until practice ends around 1 or so. Neither playe… [...]
September 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
We’ve re-signed Giordano. Maybe we canned Bennett to make room?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Giordano re-signed… let’s see whose spot he takes…
September 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Giordano outplayed Boyd and Brown in the preseason. Which isn’t saying much, but it’s something. Especially considering the lack of safety depth if Mitchell is out.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
If Hagan is cut for Giordano and Bennett sticks… I’m pretty sure my brain will s*** itself.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Bennett’s gone.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
BigTed707 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Big Ted..
would Jarvis Moss, be an ok suggestion, I mean, Huff wasnt???
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Jarvis Moss is eligible. You want to change? you get the asterisk, same as me.
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if the regime says he is eligible, I’ll pick him =)
September 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Bennett’s gone.
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Whew.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Another year of, “Al’s lost it, we’re screwed” vs. “Give it time. We need patience. Give DHB a chance. Al got to a Super Bowl in 2002″.
Meanwhile, at Patriot and Steeler blogs, it’s, “So, divisional playoffs, conference championship, or Super Bowl?”
Big difference between the fans of good teams and the fans of lousy teams.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
MAn if hagan was released and nick miller is still on the team, I throw in the towel this year, that’s a total injustice for a guys who’s worked hard all camp and outplayed all the wrs in preseason, not only that but he’s a vet, but I’ll reserve my judgement til I find out the real story
September 5th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Mitchell out
Giordanao in
Bennett out
Next?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
24 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Dropping Hagan would be stupidity. Theres no guarantee that Hagan will amount to anything but we’re desperate for sure things.
DHB – Inconsistent
Schilens – Always hurt
Murphy – Hurt
Ford – Playmaker
Miller – Punt Returner
Moore – Possibly playmaker but needs to be seen in regular season.
This group has a lot to prove as a whole. We need all the help we can get.
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SO TRUE!!
24, good to see ya back! I assume you are the WoOdSon 24 guy (and other 24’s), rite?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
The general manager of the Oakland Raider values speed over the ability to catch the ball in traffic and the ability to gain yards after the catch. Hagan doesn’t fit into his system.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I’ve been on record as sayin DHB is a bust.
Today it stops until he cost the raiders a win
until then I’m done bashin DHB. He made the roster so….
September 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
I have a feeling that Hagan got released. If he did they must feel they can depend on the often injured Chaz. I myself would of released Miller but they must have big plans for him as the return man
September 5th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Al also didn’t draft or trade for Hagan, nor is he one of his prized big-money FA signings. So Hagan may as well not exist to Al. Even with injuries I’d be surprised if Hagan ever got to start.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Realtruraider Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
I have a feeling that Hagan got released.
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No, it was Bennett.
I suspect the roster is now set, except for Richard Gordon keeping Pryor’s roster spot warm. When Pryor comes back, Gordon replaces either Brock or McGee on the Practice Squad.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
LMN – What up bro. Yeah…I’m Wo0dSoN24 and 24. I don’t carry any other names.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Hagan doesn’t fit into Al’s system. It’s that simple. We all know which type of receiver Al likes. And Hagan isn’t it. No matter how good he is.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
The general manager of the Oakland Raider values speed over the ability to catch the ball in traffic and the ability to gain yards after the catch. Hagan doesn’t fit into his system.
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let’s hope hagan is still around. May not be much but he’s been productive so far
let’s hope it translates over to gameday
September 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Of course Hagan might very well fit into Hue Jackson’s system, but Hue Jackson is nothing more than the head coach. And, the head coach of the Oakland Raiders is lower than the janitor.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
hope your right duck
September 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Hagan doesn’t fit into Al’s system. It’s that simple. We all know which type of receiver Al likes. And Hagan isn’t it. No matter how good he is.
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Umm nope, what ian Al Davis WR?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
COACH DAVIS = “cut hagan hue! He’s not fast enuf, I’d rather keep nick miller, he reminds me of a young bob Chandler, also get Ricky brown back in here, he reminds me of Matt millen, the greatness of da raidahs lives on”.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
With all the wideouts healthy, Hagan is not going to play in front of Moore, Ford, Chaz, or Murphy.
Miller being an option on STs must be getting him the nod over Hagan.
Maybe we tried to trade a WR over the weekend and had no luck. Certainly don’t/didn’t expect the Raiders to keep 7 WRs on the roster AND 4 TEs.
And don’t sleep on the young WR McGhee who we stashed on the practice squad.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
264.Plunketthead Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Plunkettheads list of semi pros who denigrate the team on a constant basis.
1) Lmn
2) SullivanMR44
Who cares if they say they are fans when all they do is moan and piss all over the the owner, the coaches and the players all the time.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
You guys are such blowhards one single piece of information and you all go jumping off bridges. The same as when Steve Brown was waived last year you all jumped to every conclusion imagable over an undrafted freeagent. WOW would we have missed him last year…
Some of you really need help!
Talk about Al Davis all you want some of you are ten times worse off than he is…
September 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Who cares if they say they are fans when all they do is moan and piss all over the the owner, the coaches and the players all the time.
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Still, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I would not be surprised in the least if Hagan doesn’t stick.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Told you Hagan doesn’t fit into Al’s system. See post 44. don’t time my word for it. Take an Al Davis follower’s word for it.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Hagan has good speed, he ran as fast a 40 time as Murphy. If they did cut him its not because hes to slow
September 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Finally some SANITY from post 46.
C’mon Man……we’re talking about the bottom of the roster.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
J Hill Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
And don’t sleep on the young WR McGhee who we stashed on the practice squad.
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Actually, I suspect we stashed WR/QB McGee solely to play Scout Team QB. We’ll know when Pryor comes back.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
lol. A Davis shill second guesses my claim that Hagan doesn’t it into Al’s system, then another Davis shill pops up and backs up my statement in full detail. love it!!!!
September 5th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
If Bill Bellacheat listed his punter as his third QB bspn would slobber all over themselves and interupt normal BS programming to tell us what a brillant coach he is
September 5th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
sources say Hagan cut…not on depth chart in NFL.com… thank you Al, we love DHB, nobody better take playing time from the DECOY!
September 5th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I said last week that I’m afraid Hagan would be cut. If he is, then I have LOST ALL RESPECT FOR HUE JACKSON.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Maybe Hagen and Bennett arnt there because they wont be dressed for the game. Well lets hope thats the reason.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Matt Giordano???
September 5th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
sources say Hagan cut
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Citation, please.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I wouldn’t call myself an Al Davis follower at all.
I’m a Raider fan first and foremost.
And by the way, why are you posting as Sullivan44 instead of RMR?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Notice how Al seems to eliminate any sign of improvement from this team?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
J Hill Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
And by the way, why are you posting as Sullivan44 instead of RMR?
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RMR got banned, I believe. Sullivan44 is not RMR’s only sockpuppet, either. Not by far.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
SullivanMR, Why are you a raiders fan?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
And by the way, why are you posting as Sullivan44 instead of RMR?
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I think the better question is why does he post under so many diffrent handles? I find that disturbing…
September 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
24 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
LMN – What up bro. Yeah…I’m Wo0dSoN24 and 24. I don’t carry any other names.
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well I meant all something with 24, wasnt Huff24 you?
anyhoo, good to see ya back..
September 5th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
If there’s any improvement at all, Al slashed it with a sword.
Team improves from 5-11 to 8-8. Head coach gone.
QB depth chart respectable with Gradkowski backing up Campbell. Gradkowski gone.
Receiving corp respectable with Hagan… He’s gone.
Any sign of improvement whatsoever, and Al just makes it disappear almost instantly.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
J Hill Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I wouldn’t call myself an Al Davis follower at all.
I’m a Raider fan first and foremost.
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Cool!
September 5th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Man if Hagan got cut Im gonna lose it…..CChaz sucks)urphy hurt,ford too litttle, nicki sux, dhb blows and moore is a rookie. Very disappointing
September 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
yeah that’s why ford is still a and tj and moore and ausberry and lil wiz and bruce campbell and…..
you fools n here will follow any fool who comes along as long as he has negative words about mr davis that is your only requirement. raider fans yeah right!
September 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
NFL.com does not have Hagan on the depth chart. Whether that means anything or not, IDK.
If Hagan was cut, then Hue is full of crap about putting the best players on the field and Al is worse than he’s ever been. Hagan made plays! He’ll be a good receiver for some team out there, just wait and see.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
If there’s any improvement at all, Al slashed it with a sword.
Team improves from 5-11 to 8-8. Head coach gone.
QB depth chart respectable with Gradkowski backing up Campbell. Gradkowski gone.
Receiving corp respectable with Hagan… He’s gone.
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Once again, you relentlessly mocked Cable every chance you got, right up until he was canned. Now you’d think he was Lombardi, to hear you go on and on about it.
Grads, meanwhile, lost his job in a cakewalk to a second-round pick (Dalton) that most felt was an overdrafted fourth-rounder.
Hagan is NOT gone.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
I’ve got a feeling that Steve Wisniewski, Biekert and Woodson will be suiting up by week 3.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
So would you guys rather have Ford and Moore risked on punt returns and kick offs, or would you rather have them healthy to catch passes?
“Obviously”, Hue prefers to have those guys as WRs so Miller means a little more to him than Hagan does.
If Murphy and Chaz had/have any type of long term injury, then the Hagan hysteria would make sense.
Your DELUSIONAL
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Wow I can’t believe the kept nmiller over hagan
ridiculous
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
It shouldn’t be surprising at all if Hagan was cut. He doesn’t fit into Al Davis’s system.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Gradkowski was unacceptable for our offense….glad he gone
September 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Why does anybody think Hagan was cut?
Show me ONE citation that says so. Just one.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Al values speed over hands, strength, and YAC. Everyone knows this. Hagan, no matter how good, is simply not a system fit with the Raiders.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
wouldnt surprise me if hagan was cut at all. remember this is the same dunbazz team that decided to start the year with figurs as the return man over ford. they did that despite yamon fumbling ko’s and not making made the team and he fumbled the opening kickoff in tennessee to start the year. i guess u could say “that figurs.”
September 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Your DELUSIONAL if you think Hagan was going to move to #1 on the WR depth chart ahead of DHB. The Raiders are not giving up on a top draft pick especially when the last time we saw him he drew 2 PI calls and caught the balls that were thrown his way.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
I 100 percent agree with Sullivan, coach Davis holds this team back cuz he’s a control freak, hue is a d@m good coach, just too bad he will never have a say and get thrown under the bus in two years, if they really cut hagan, just another sign once again of who’s making decisions, how are the players supposed to respect hue when they see the coach is being undermined again by a control freak owner, gonna be a mutiny soon
September 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
LMN – You have a better memory than I haha. Also Huff24. I’ve been on this thing for so long it seems.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Man its sad…..oh yeah Beecher Im stoppin by the Ritz right before I go….u never emaailed me homeboy like I asked
September 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Priest, Al Davis is not the Raiders. I can say all I want about his decisions and still be a fan. I’m sorry you’re blind to Al’s madness, but it does explain your posts. Hagan was the most consistent and polished receiver we had. He also studied hard and set an example. Maybe that means nothing to you. Then gain, it should mean something because you need all the good wr help you can get in orderto make your homeboy JaJason look decent.
This team has gone backwards. 2010 was interesting. Welcome back early draft picks.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
J Hill Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
So would you guys rather have Ford and Moore risked on punt returns and kick offs, or would you rather have them healthy to catch passes?
“Obviously”, Hue prefers to have those guys as WRs so Miller means a little more to him than Hagan does.
If Murphy and Chaz had/have any type of long term injury, then the Hagan hysteria would make sense.
Your DELUSIONAL
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if this is correct then it is what it is
but Moore should be in PR’s an KOR’s IMO
September 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Our QB depth chart was statistically better overall with Gradkowski on it. You may not think that’s significant, but I promise you defensive coordinators around the league do. Campbell was benched for Gradkowski last year and the team won. Believe me, if Gradkowski were still on our depth chart, every DC we face this year would be taking note of it and tweaking their defense to prepare for the possibility of him being subbed in. And the more players opposing DCs have to prepare for, the more options that open up for your offense.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Relax, everyone. Hagan is still on the team and will either be starting vs Denver, or be the #3 WR.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
As of right now, Hagan is listed on the active roster.
http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html
September 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
So this is what we’ve become? We root for our wrs to draw PI penalties instead of being consistent pass catchers ?? Wow, so sad
September 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Transactions only shows Michael Bennett being cut so far.
http://www.raiders.com/team/transactions.html
September 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Jhill fk all that! DHB sucks even on those PI calls he didnt look smooth! Oh yeah im semi pro’n rewatching game now with my ppos…..Hendu should start and reece sucks as a blocker
September 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Grads is not all that. He just isn’t. He is WAY too inconsistent. Yes, he’ll have an awesome effort in relief, but then follow it up with a total dog. You can’t build a team around a guy like that.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
24 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
LMN – You have a better memory than I haha. Also Huff24. I’ve been on this thing for so long it seems.
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like an elephant! =)
September 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
72.J Hill Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
So would you guys rather have Ford and Moore risked on punt returns and kick offs, or would you rather have them healthy to catch passes?
“Obviously”, Hue prefers to have those guys as WRs so Miller means a little more to him than Hagan does.
If Murphy and Chaz had/have any type of long term injury, then the Hagan hysteria would make sense.
Your DELUSIONAL
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see this is the problem with yall in here. u wanna win
or continue to lose? ford is our best return man so he must return kicks. that gives an advantage eveytime he is back there. its like rickey henderson leading off a game. u have the chance to take the lead FIRST. ford gives us that ability and its a way of giving him touches. moore is already a more explosive pr than miller and jones should be a better option. its football, guys get hurt. u put the best players out on the field to make plays.miller sucks as a return man.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
24 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
As of right now, Hagan is listed on the active roster.
http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html
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Yes, exactly. Why? HE’S STILL ON THE TEAM.
As for the NFL.com depth charts: last time I checked, they still listed Manning as a starter. ARCHIE Manning, that is.
(Yes, I kid. But not by much.)
September 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
There is nothing or anyone who says Hagan is GONE!!
We just have a bunch of old women in here overeacting to NOTHING………
September 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Bennett released!!!
September 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
MAybe they’re keeping nick miller because they need a crash test dummy for punt returns and don’t wanna risk denarius and jacoby,
September 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
but Moore should be in PR’s an KOR’s IMO
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I agree with you.
Moore looked way better than Miller returning kicks.
Hue came out the other day and said Ford is returning KOs, so I don’t know why Moore can’t return punts.
I guess we’ll see how it shakes out.
Regardless, Hagan is not going to be higher than 5 on the depth chart opening night.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Duck, the Raiders QB depth chart was statistically better with Gradkowski on it than it is today. Defensive coordinators would have had to prepare for the possibility of Grads being subbed in. They’d have to put a lot of schemes into their weekly game plan to shut down the short passing game. That would have opened things up for Campbell. Having a deep roster of talented players helps. And, Gradkowski didn’t cost a dime. If it’s all about winning…
September 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Raiders released RB Michael Bennett.
The 33-year-old managed just 66 yards on 20 preseason carries, “good” for a 3.3 average. Though Bennett seemed to be an Al Davis favorite, there was no reason to keep him with Taiwan Jones emerging as a speedy reserve back.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
lets also remember that dmc is our best player and we dont want too many people taking away his touches along with bush. we need to establish roles on this team so that they understand what they need to do. the best teams have that. when we establish that then we will win games and win them big. yall get caught up in this bullsh!t of everyone needing to touch the ball when they really dont. the best players get the most while the others fight for scraps.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
We have nobody backing up Campbell now. Gradkowski is far better statistically than any of our back up QBs. Heck, he might statistically be better than all of them put together.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
We have nobody backing up Campbell now.
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I seem to remember this Boller guy on the roster…
September 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I seem to remember this Boller guy on the roster…
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Like I said. Nobody.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Tafur confirms via Twitter than Hagan has a “small ding.”
Now will everyone CALM THE FRAK DOWN?!?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
There are doctor’s available for those in desparate neeed…………..some of you really need to check in.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Oh yeah im semi pro’n rewatching game now with my ppos…..Hendu should start and reece sucks as a blocker
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Reece is terrible as a blocker. I’ve said that since it was first announced we were trying that. No news flash there.
I don’t have a problem with Hendu starting. Move Seymour to LDE and bring Houston off the bench as a DT.
Let Bryant back up Seymour at LDE.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Priest,
Do you have anything football related today?
Or are you going to sit here and cry about other folks crying?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MR thats a damn lie….no one is scared of Grad…and stats wise we werent better with Grad! Grad more turonvers than TDs……that doesnt hel you fkin liar…JC got benched and Grad didnt dtart and finish one win u fkin liar. All you do is lie. Does it feel good to be a woman?
September 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
“Small ding” for Hagan.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
DUCK you should’ve let them go all day until aftere practice we need to weed some of these crackpots out!!!
September 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Why even waste our breathe about Gradkowski? Hes not here anymore. Jason Campbell, Kyle Boller and Terrelle Pryor, like it or not.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
There were just as many Davis shills justifying Hagan’s release as there were fans who thought that it happened.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Houston looked damn good on the inside v.s. the run.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
hagan has a place on this team whether as a starter or reserve. miller can go to hell tho. im sick of seeing him take 5 steps to go 1 yard and get caught. i see no more value in him. we get no damn pressure on the qb like ive been tellin yall. for 3 years ive said we need to get faster on the edges but yall screamed that 47 sacks bullsh!t. 3rd downs will kill us this year if we dont get to the qb. it aint the db’s fault we dont get off the field. i hope yall see that now.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Gradkowski is worlds better STATISTICALLY than any other backup on our roster. It would be a huge plus to have him on the depth chart. Considering what he did to the Steeler’s in ‘09 and that he came in for Campbell and got a win last year, every opposing DC would have had to prepare for him. The more players opponents have to watch, even on the second string, the more options it opens up for your offense. It’s a game of x’s and o’s. Some teams do everything they can to win. Some miss the fine points.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Duck, the Raiders QB depth chart was statistically better with Gradkowski on it than it is today. Defensive coordinators would have had to prepare for the possibility of Grads being subbed in. They’d have to put a lot of schemes into their weekly game plan to shut down the short passing game. That would have opened things up for Campbell. Having a deep roster of talented players helps. And, Gradkowski didn’t cost a dime. If it’s all about winning…
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RMR let it go. Grads is long gone. Talk about this team. The 53man roster an practice squad. All else is nill homie
September 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I am talking about this team, Cain. The QB depth chart is awful. It’s non existent. There’s nobody backing up Campbell. That’s THIS team.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Jhill….glad you on board…..Hendu at NT Seymour at UT….sad we pput Tonga on PS but he will be elevated just you watch….my MUP pick is still alive
September 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
3rd offense/defense and redzone offense/defense will be our doing or undoing this year. we also need jc to hit those money plays downfield this year. we have to be a better 3rd down team on both sides of the ball if we want to maximize our ability. i dont have a problem with our dbs. its that front 7 that better kick azz.
September 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
for 3 years ive said we need to get faster on the edges but yall screamed that 47 sacks bullsh!t.
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Go check on the grill mayne!!!!!!
Don’t let those ribs burn.
September 5th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I got nothing Jhill in fact I’m thin k ing about retiring from this blog altogether. Because the solid football talk gets no run in here it’s just all purse swingin, whining and crying and owner bashing.
The solid football talk never gets a chance with all the fruitcakes interferring. I kind of enjoyed the late night crew but now they’re all gone.
It’s just guys whining and crying all day when i don’t come in here I no longer miss it.
September 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
DUCK you should’ve let them go all day until aftere practice we need to weed some of these crackpots out!!!
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priest,
what’s up with all the negative jargon
you know as well as I that al Davis moves in mysterious ways.
So it’s not inconceivably tru that hagan was still on the team
September 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
T-minus 1 week, 6 hours, 13 mins until code black is put into effect.
September 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Cain…MR is a liar and coward…notice he scared to address the B@uce….he knowws I ace all his bs……Grad’s play hurt us last year
September 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Ok priest give me your assesment of the 53 man roster
seriously
September 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
BHP why? Cuz we dont applaud every move? We wanna win…reece kelly groves and dhb shouldnt be starting
September 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I am talking about this team, Cain. The QB depth chart is awful. It’s non existent. There’s nobody backing up Campbell. That’s THIS team.
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boller an grads amount to about the same
grads was cut in cinci so…
Plus JCampbell seem to look over his shoulder at grads. An it showed in his play
an comraderie of the team
September 5th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Priest we wanna wwin….not cheerlead every damn move that we know wont win game
September 5th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Camraderie of team? They wanted JC STARTING ALL ALONG!!
September 5th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Key to beating Denver Monday Night:
Heavy doses of Bush & DMAC between the tackles. Do not give up on the run no matter how stout Denver’s Defense appears to be. Nobody can stop 4 Qtrs of Bush/Mcfadden. Our running game was the key factor in every game we won last year. The times we lost were when Cable flinched and abondoned the running game early when it was met with resistance.
Denver, with Dumervil and Von Miller have the ouside pretty well locked down. We need to attack the soft underbelly, weakened by injuries.
MESSAGE TO HUE: You live or die with our running game.
September 5th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
I am going with Hue and Al on this. They want to win…so let’s roll.
I just hope the standard of production is legit.
Meaning, the very concept of “decoy” is anathema of the very concept of productin.
The coaches believe DHB and Ford gives this team the best chance to win….let’s see how it plays out on the field…for the better.
The Raiders at least deserve the chance to play a regular season game before you all toss them under the bus
September 5th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Hagan is a more talented receiver than anyone we have. He seems to be the definition of “professional wide receiver”. He catches anything thrown at him, knows how to use his body, runs precise routes and can make things happen after the catch. Who cares about 40 times, what did Timmy run? Hagan is a true possession receiver.
Yeah, ford made some plays last year, albeit circus act plays that only happen once and awhile. The others were off of reverses, that is not a possession receiver. You need one of those on the field.
But so what, let them play who they play and we can address the situation later.
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