Boss, Mitchell and Murphy still out; no sign of Banta-Cain
By Steve Corkran
Thursday, September 8th, 2011 at 7:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Once again, the Raiders are conducting practice without starting tight end Kevin Boss, starting wide receiver Louis Murphy and backup safety Mike Mitchell.
Those three have missed significant playing time and aren’t likely to play against the Denver Broncos on Monday night. In fact, Murphy already has been ruled out by coach Hue Jackson.
Jackson said Wednesday night that Mitchell and Boss would need some meaningful practice time if they were to play against the Broncos.
“I would think so,” Jackson said, when asked if Boss and Mitchell needed some practice time. “We want to take a healthy, enthusiastic team to Denver. We’re going to pack our best ball club and go to Denver and get ready to play on Monday night.”
*The Raiders also are practicing without linebacker Tully Banta-Cain, who reportedly worked out for the Raiders earlier today and passed a physical.
The physical was considered key because he underwent surgery in late July for an abdominal injury.
It’s conceivable that the Raiders will wait until the deadline has passed for a vested veteran — players with four or more years accrued service — before signing Banta-Cain and/or cornerback Lito Sheppard.
By waiting, the Raiders wouldn’t be on the hook for the player’s entire 2011 base salary, only a fraction, if they were to release that player at some point in the season.
*Not sure it means anything, but Chaz Schilens and Denarius Moore were the wide receivers with the second-team offense in the portion of practice viewable by the media.
Jacoby Ford and Derek Hagan were the wide receivers with the first-team offense. It’s worth noting that the Raiders, like most teams, mix and match their receivers throughout practice.
*The Raiders are practicing under the lights once again. They will conclude their night practices Friday night, practice mid-day Saturday and then head to Denver on Sunday.
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September 8th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
September 8th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Woodson throws a punch and stays in the game. If that was a Raider, him the coach, and half the fans would have been ejected.
September 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Saints tried to be cute and got burned on 4th down. RUN THE F’N BALL!!!!
September 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
568.Sullivan44 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Rob, you should just be lucky the blog doesn’t test for functioning IQs as a requirement for membership.
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MR, Were you on the debate team in high school? And did you always lose? Thought so.
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My money says he was.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
582.Sullivan44 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Rob Raider, I’m proud of you for realistically downgrading your fantasies from being superman to being a college grad at Indiana. It’s still delusional, but it’s progress.
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MR is cruisin in his comfort zone. Everybody back off and leave him alone. Let the dude enjoy.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Rob, I know girls that can drink a 12 pack of Coors Light, the beer of the Davis worshiper, and act completely sober. You’re on your 3rd Coors Light, and going full retard.
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Sullivan, most of the Davis worshipers don’t need alcohol to be full on retard.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Thanks Steve! Good looking out. Let’s Go Raiders! Boy, I strongly dislike seeing Charles Woodson playing for the Packers.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Hey MR, did you ever go by the handle ‘Skeptic’ in a Raider newsgroup? I bet you did.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
lol. True, Albert.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
No, Spiked. Was skeptic a guy you were supposed to meet at a motel for poppers and sex? Sorry he broke your heart. But I’m not him.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
That WR rotation sounds about right
September 8th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
New Raider D could have Hybrid Hiccups
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 8th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Ford Hagan with starting line up, good let’s go Raiiideerrrss
September 8th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Well, there might be a team that picks up the blitz as awfully as we do.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Looking at the QBs playing, and looking at the standings around the league, Campbell is normally ranked between 20-25 on the top QBs.
I think we can make his production higher than that will all the weapons around him.
What I see needs to change for him to get into the top 15 QBs is:
1. His deep ball needs to be better. I don’t remember any beautifuly thrown deep passes to a WR last year. I remember quite a few where Ford (and a couple times Murphy) bailed him out with incredible catches or snatching it away from the DB who was making an interception. I remember long passes to the TE which looked good down the middle of the field. He underthrew his deep throws consistently in pre-season as well. We have speed. I’d rather he overthrow our receivers. Does he really have a strong enough arm? He is said to possess the arm strength so now he needs to show it.
Almost every long play was a short pass turned into a long gain or a catch where the WR came back to fight for it over the DB when open deep.
2. Decision making on 3rd down. Too many times he threw completions which the WR/RB was blanketed and short of the 1st down. On 3rd down he needs to throw to a WR with some room to move to make YAC or past the 1st down marker.
3. Quicker progression of reads. Find the open man faster, make the decision and get rid of it.
He is good on his short-to-intermediate passes. And he’s showing accuracy on those passes in the pre-season so far as well. We can turn those into long gains with enough of them completed, so if he improves upon these three points he’ll be a top 15 QB.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Twinkle Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Oh god Seymour Bush I hope you are right.How far back was
the last MLB we had? Matt Millen?
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Yeah, and Millen had a couple of guys around him that weren’t too bad either. I think their names were Hendricks and Rod Martin.
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I think Danny Clark was good, Eric Barton was Great So was Greg Biekert..
September 8th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
LMN
the point is that we will be in more shootouts because we have a poor passing defense and a much improved passing offense with weapons at wr, te, and coming out of the backfield. The point u made is that teams will chew up the clock, completed passes chew up much more field than a running play. They also chew up less clock, a team will opt to pass on us before running if our passing D is bad because it moves the ball toward the endzone much quicker, thus taking up less time. What part of that don’t u get????
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I might ask you the same..
we had the 29th RUN-D, fact, and now our PASS-D surely has digressed… which means our D is plain bad! add to that mix our DC is a tool..
I claim we on D will see a lot of 12 snap series, run or pass, doesnt matter.. run is often a bit sideways and passes are often more deep thats true, doesnt matter. What matters is 12 time 40 seconds.. usually teams runs the ball at their pleasure, now they will do the same passing the ball..
Lets say 50/50 to keep it even, thats 48 passing yds, 24 running yds.. thats 72yds, if they start at the 20 its a sure 3 points each drive, of course some will be incompletes, but some runs and passes will be for more that avg too.. so that 72yds in 8 minutes.. sure 3 and often 7 points
so add that up with our O getting a lot of 3′n’outs, that will make a deficit, timewise and pointwise… which then means we are forced to throw, which then again means its furthermore predicable to defend against
I dont buy into this years O-line is better, and I dont believe in Jason C, because he is too slow, snap-scan-release just isnt upto par. The Longer Jason C takes to deliver the the ball, thehigher are risks that some of our Linemen makes a mistake of draws a penalty..
So no I dont believe when you say we will have an top 5 offense.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
You ready Scott?
September 8th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
3.wasbanned Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Saints tried to be cute and got burned on 4th down. RUN THE F’N BALL!!!!
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I thought the same thing.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Charles Woodson became a dedicated football player AFTER he left the Raiders. I think that says a lot about the lack of respect Al Davis gets from the modern players.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Since so many of you are convinced we will suck hind tit this year,you should be happy.Since we will be so bad,you won’t have to watch the games and will have more free time on Sundays.It will make your families happy because you’ll be able to spend more time with them.But the best part might be that if you don’t watch the games,you might not be here all the time whining like a bunch of little kids who never get their way.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I remmeber several beautifully thrown deep balls from JC. A couple were dropped by Murphy as well as Ford. Ford caught a well thrown deep ball to beat KC in Oakland. Had Ford not been interferred with it would’ve gone for 6 pts.
It’s not about arm strength JC has an incredibly strong arm. It’s about timing and spending time after practice getting that down. JC is already in the top 15 QB’s in this league that’s not the issue it’s time spent with these rec’s to the point where it’s much more effective in games. We have rookies and 2nd and 3rd year rec’s who are in the early stages of development. JC is in his 2nd season working with them. Timing takes time and reps to get to the point where Manning and Brady are and I’m not at all saying JC will ever get to that level. I don’t know that, I’m just saying it’s not merely a function of the QB doing his job as much as it is a function of the moving parts of the offense working together effectively. The more reps the more precision and cohesive functinality.
There are no short cuts they have to go through it as they do it’ll get better and better.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Incidentally the deep ball is the hardest pass to complete for a reason…………..timing!
September 8th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Excellent opening game to the NFL season!
September 8th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
21.lefty12 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Since so many of you are convinced we will suck hind tit this year,you should be happy.Since we will be so bad,you won’t have to watch the games and will have more free time on Sundays.It will make your families happy because you’ll be able to spend more time with them.But the best part might be that if you don’t watch the games,you might not be here all the time whining like a bunch of little kids who never get their way.
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I think we could have a good season. On the other hand, are you happy with the way the last 8 seasons have gone? We should be whining.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
#15 is a good post. Campbell HAS to play faster. He has to get the plays faster, has to get the team lined up faster, has to run thru his reads faster, has to get the ball out of his mits faster, and he has to heave the rock down the field faster. If he did all those things he would be better.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Excellent opening game to the NFL season!
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I 2nd that, and now BEDTIME!!! 3H30M sleep! *sigh*
September 8th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
good night now!!
September 8th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Why you don’t have Brees throwing the ball with the game on the line is beyond me.
I know it was only 1 yard, but still.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Green Bay made the few plays on defense that won the game. Never forget, defense wins in the end! Hopefully, we’ll see some Raiders defense on MONDAY NIGHT!
September 8th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Beach,we haven’t played a game yet.It would be nice if people waited at least a couple of weeks.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Brees & Rodgers are 2 amazing QB’s. They both played their asses off tonight for a great game. That last play was a bad call. Had they called a naked bootleg off of a play action nose dive, Brees could have walked in. The receivers fir both teams but in particular the Packers are also amazing. Gives us a standard to shoot for.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Why you don’t have Brees throwing the ball with the game on the line is beyond me.
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Agreed!
I could’ve used the extra 6 pts.
September 8th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Lefty12 great post#21
And get away from the bird brain comments about the idiosyncracies of Al Davis and get into real football talk about this team. We don’t have to agree on everything or anything but the constant berating of every player they don’t like gets way old.
They don’t seem to realize just because THEY don’t like a player doesn’t mean he (sucks) it just means they don’t like him. We all have our favorite players and those we prefer over others.
But the coaches have a much better point of view………..some cannot fathom that fact.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Since so many of you are convinced we will suck hind tit this year,you should be happy.Since we will be so bad,you won’t have to watch the games and will have more free time on Sundays.It will make your families happy because you’ll be able to spend more time with them.But the best part might be that if you don’t watch the games,you might not be here all the time whining like a bunch of little kids who never get their way.
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The Raiders need my dollar. I can determine this by their commercials during their preseason telecasts. I just like to use forums like this (not owned by the Raiders, btw), to let them know why they won’t be getting it.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Beach, For crying out loud man the last 8 seasons have NOTHING to do whatsoever with what happens this year. Let’s deal with this team this year I think that’s much more than most of us can digest. Based on most comments…
September 8th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Who would have thought that after that start we’d see a photo finish?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
priest, i’m talking about the team THIS year when offering my skepticism. We’ve downgraded the depth chart at almost every single position.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
A GREAT way to open the 2011 NFL season!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
The Raiders are going to get absolutely eviscerated by GB late in the season. Jesus, and I thought not being able to stop Brees was bad enough.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Where is the sports precedent, where fans of a losing team, have to be happy and upbeat?????
September 8th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
But Priest,if they don’t like someone and he plays it must be because he is on ’scholarship’ and the old guy mandates it.You must be like the coaches and not know anything about the team.We haven’t seen our starting 22 on the field once this year and many have made a total evaluation of the team.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Jacoby Ford and Derek Hagan were the wide receivers with the first-team offense.
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
holy crap! Our Receivers are receiving playing time based on their skills now? Awesome!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Tricky70390 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
The Raiders are going to get absolutely eviscerated by GB late in the season. Jesus, and I thought not being able to stop Brees was bad enough.
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Only one way to win that game, run the ball 100% of the time, scoring on each possession, and hoping we can limit Rodger’s time with the ball and stay ahead while running the clock out.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Where is the sports precedent, where fans of a losing team, have to be happy and upbeat?????
Instead of demanding that fans happily accept losing, why don’t “you people” demand performance from the managers of the product?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Lefty yes, we should all believe in a victory come Monday Night in Denver. Shame on those who don’t. Go Raiders!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Raiders will murder the Broncos, it’s gonna be so cool. A fresh new field that belongs to them, and we’re gonna tear it up and leave them licking their wounds! Raiders will dominate Monday Night!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
41.KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Where is the sports precedent, where fans of a losing team, have to be happy and upbeat?????
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
KK-preseason is supposed to be a time when fans at least have some sort of hope for the teams they root for.If you don’t why bother?Also,why whine before you have even seen the product one damn time.If after a few weeks you can’t stand what you are seeing,go for it,but why start before you KNOW what is going to happen.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Lefty12 it’s typical fan overeaction to any and everything. I can’t wait to see what kind of team we actually have rather than the hodgepodge of shuffling players in and out. How someone can make a determination based on that is beyond me. But they have all done it.
Talking about the team 5 years ago is futile none of these players if any were on those teams. This is a completely different team from last year to try to evealuate this team based on one year ago is silly. Players get better all the time take each year as it’s own entity.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Lefty
We’re not little kids, I’ve been watching football over 40 years. The Raiders went 0-4, Last in the league in Defense, and giving up 138yds per game on the ground!
Pardon me all to hell, ok?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Lefty12 it’s typical fan overeaction to any and everything. I can’t wait to see what kind of team we actually have rather than the hodgepodge of shuffling players in and out. How someone can make a determination based on that is beyond me. But they have all done it.
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Yes Priesttj
we all have done it.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Yamacan Man Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
If all you cared about was the Raiders winning in order to be happy
you would be a miserable man.
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Ha ha ha ha!!!!
Hey Kell, he said it, not us!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Who said anything about happily accepting losing?You are great at cutting and pasting.Cut and paste where that was said!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Yamacan is the poster of the night! How can you deny this?
“If all you cared about was the Raiders winning in order to be happy
you would be a miserable man.”
Kell, Alex7 and myself can just kick back, now. Looks like Yamacan’s doing our lifting. Keep up the good work, Yamacan.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I will use the logic that all of us should be POSITIVE if we’re basing this season on last year. The offense was, for the most part, very good. The defense was Jeckyll and Hyde, yes. It is true that we have not seen our starting 22 play together yet. The preseason is over. Let’s have a positive attitude, NOW!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
54.Sullivan44 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Yamacan Man Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
If all you cared about was the Raiders winning in order to be happy you would be a miserable man.
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Ha ha ha ha!!!!
Hey Kell, he said it, not us!
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So sorry man
my bad
Didn’t mean to hit a sore spot.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
KK-they were PRACTICE games where the starters didn’t get on the field together ONCE in those 4 games.The Colts haven’t had a winning preseason in years.Practice games don’t mean squat.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Yamacan, sore spot? You’re my mouth piece, buddy! If all one relied on the Raiders to win to be happy, they’d be miserable. I couldn’t have said it better, the way the franchise is run today. Thanks for doing my talking.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Sull44
You mean to tell me because the Raiders have had a poor run of luck for a bit, you are a miserable man?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
“We’re not little kids”.Maybe you aren’t,but by reading many of the comments on here you can’t convince me many aren’t.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Raiders have the 2nd worst record in the NFL over the last 10 years, and “you people” are worried about what critics say? You want happy talk from fans?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Kell shut da fk up u old btch
September 8th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
The final score of preseason games doesn’t mean anything. But the discipline, intensity, and overall cohesiveness of a team does. And I didn’t see enough of any of the 3 to be convinced we’re better than last year. When you also consider the fact that on paper we’ve downgraded the depth chart at just about every position, significantly in the D secondary, where were decent last year, it’s not good.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Lefty12 he doesn’t understand the difference, anyone stupud enough to quote preseason stats is absolutely clueless.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
STUPID!!***
September 8th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Yamacan, you said that if anyone relied on the Raiders to win in order to be happy, they’d be miserable. I couldn’t have said it better myself, considering the way the team is run anymore.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
The only one who is miserable when Raiders lose is Al Davis, and maybe his lap dog.
The rest of us just pain for awhile then have to go back to work. But I still get sick at the fuc— I mean tuck rule.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Kell and MR are both coward ass punks….spend your time somewhere else if u so mad…..oh wait neither of the clowns have a life so it revolves around this blog
September 8th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
67.priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
STUPID!!***
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
32.JB Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Brees & Rodgers are 2 amazing QB’s. They both played their asses off tonight for a great game. That last play was a bad call. Had they called a naked bootleg off of a play action nose dive, Brees could have walked in. The receivers fir both teams but in particular the Packers are also amazing. Gives us a standard to shoot for.
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Peyton coached a horrible game tonight. By that I mean he made all the wrong calls at the most critical times. The 4th down call when they were on the 7 yd. line was awful. Not to mention the fact he should’ve just kicked the field goal in the first place. Then, the last play of the game was just stupid. Like the above said, Brees could’ve just waltzed in on a bootleg. The defense was so jammmed up the middle it was ridiculous.
Nice to see Ingram get it shoved back in his face like that though, after his whipping the ball at the Raider logo on the black hole after scoring that spectacular preseason td a couple weeks back.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
PRIESTTJ, LEFTY
Just shown on ESPN
only 8 out of 52 teams that have gone winless in preseason made the playoffs.
A paltry 16% To say preseason is meaningless is…factually incorrect.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
What all this “my father is a coach in the NFL,” so I get to become a coach as well. Buddy Ryan gets his two sons in. Rex, the good one, ends up with the Jets. Rob, the fat ugly one, Mr Prevent-Defense, ends up with us for four years (what a nightmare that was).
Monty Kiffin’s son, Lane, end up with us. Marty Schottenheimer’s son Brian is a coach as well. Then add the kicker to all this. Mike “Sha-na-rat” Shanahan
has his son, Kyle, as his offensive coordinator.
Are there any other “father/son” combos flying around?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
BHP….kell clueless? Naw really?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
63.KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Raiders have the 2nd worst record in the NFL over the last 10 years, and “you people” are worried about what critics say? You want happy talk from fans?
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
B exactly!!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Alexander…..monday night is all that matters now…..preseason is over and done with
September 8th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
The Raiders need my dollar. I’ve determined that through their advertising during the preseason. And, it appears they need a lot of my money, considering the club seats they’re trying to sell me. I just like to let Al Davis and his worshipers know why they won’t be getting a red cent from me.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
What exactly do you have to criticize so far this year?They haven’t played a game.Do you not like the players,the coaches,the play calling-what.If you wish to criticize the owner because he didn’t get the players you’d like fine,but how can you criticize a team that hasn’t played one down?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
When the 2nd worst team in the League over the last 10 years, goes 0-4, last in defense, giving up 138 yds on the ground, when run defense has been a problem for years, says the pre-season is meaningless, that’s a flat out lie.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Alex7, you’re right. It is proven that teams that blow chunks in the pre-season and win zero games rarely make the playoffs. I stand corrected on that.
And on DMac, and on Russell, and on DHB.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Hagan practicing with first team offense? Interesting
September 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Yacaman, The Priest is excited and full of anticipation I just want to see what type of team we can put on the field in 2011. I could care less what happened last year our record is 0-0 we play a division rival on MNF it doesn’t get any better…….Go Raiders!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
81.KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
When the 2nd worst team in the League over the last 10 years, goes 0-4, last in defense, giving up 138 yds on the ground, when run defense has been a problem for years, says the pre-season is meaningless, that’s a flat out lie.
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
When the Raiders stop advertising on my t.v. screen, that I just turn on with a remote while sitting on my coach, freeway billboards that I just drive by, I’ll stop responding to their advertisements on forums open to the public, like this one.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
BHP I SURELY wasnt thrilled with preseason but that schit is over now. Time to move on cuz we got a serious game monday and these jcats wanna be stuck on preseason still….lmao too funny
September 8th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Method,
unfortunately we’ve already seen the overall lack of talent on D, particularly the bad scheme.
Even if the Raiders beat a 4-12 Denver team, we all know this team is seriously flawed on D and won’t make a ripple in the NFL this year, yet again.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Alex7:
That’s a faulty “stat” and means nothing. If all the teams were playing at full strength then there would be meaning. Preseason is mainly to weed out the players and to evaluate them, especially untested rookies. What a stupid point to bring out, as if there’s any substance to it.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
84.priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Yacaman, The Priest is excited and full of anticipation I just want to see what type of team we can put on the field in 2011. I could care less what happened last year our record is 0-0 we play a division rival on MNF it doesn’t get any better…….Go Raiders!
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Raiders 38
denver 9
September 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Al Davis begs for my money via advertising. I should at least show him the courtesy of a response, and explain to his most loyal minions why he won’t be getting it. It’s only fair.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
MR…YOU GOT MANY ADVERTISEMENTS ALL OVER U RUNNIN ON THEIR BLOGS WHINING LIKE A LIL BTCH?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Something else that DID matter in the preseason.
The Raiders moved the ball well vs Saints, forshadowing their bad pass D.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
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Pipe layer, does that help man? They’re giving him run with the 1st team hopefully the blood pressure of a lot of fans will go down a bit.LOL
Let’s get this show on the road..
September 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
86.Sullivan44 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
When the Raiders stop advertising on my t.v. screen, that I just turn on with a remote while sitting on my coach, freeway billboards that I just drive by, I’ll stop responding to their advertisements on forums open to the public, like this one.
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Alexander…..they beat Denver they win division point blank. That opening game monkey is off their backs. Dont undervalue what that can mean to those guys
September 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Come on Hagar,
8 out of 51 is not faulty. It is what it is. Bottom line is, winless teams in preseason don’t even have a 2 in 10 chance of making the playoffs.
All factors are taken into consideration, everyone plays however they play, the bottom line is 8 out of 51.
You have to be pretty bad AND lack depth to not even win once.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Well I’m in midseason form now.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
One thing is for sure, come Tuesday we will all be extolling the virtues of HuJack’s new teaching abilities or we’ll all be pissing & moaning about every miss-fire. At least it will be based on actual game results that count. My main concern about this team is that we can get up and beat the good team that should have won but all too often we play down to teams that we should stomp. HuJack needs to change that team characteristic. Monday will be a good test to see if we can win the ones we are supposed to. In my mind there is no way we should be losing to Denver. I just hope the team follows through with that thought and dismantles the Broncos.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
A team with only 20,000 season ticket holders, blacked out 11 straight games, and 0-4 pre-season record is meaningless?
Get a clue.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
4-12 denver team? Alexander….2010 is over with……only two teams in nfl have a mark in the w-l column…..come on
September 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Method, you don’t even consider SD as a factor? Not sure we’re going to block 18 kicks against them this year.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Brien, this blog doesn’t belong to the Raiders.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Alex7,why dont you and youre half brother,sullivan44,go bowling,argue with the friggin pins,whatever,keep youre neg crap out of here,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
B it makes me wonder exactly what he has learned all these years watching the NFL. Who on earth besides him quotes preseason stats???? ANYONE???
What league on EARTH keeps preseason stats as if their meaningful??
September 8th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Yeah that helps priest, hes earned it
September 8th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Wait, you guys have spent all week talking about how bad Denver is. Suddenly a win against them would be super impressive?
I’m all for going 1-0 for the first time in ages.
Just admitting that we have a really bad D, and it dampens the realistic hopes for this entire season.
Would be nice to have legit season-long hope.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Kell u get a fkin clue and dont follow the franchise anymore….if its so negative fk uu following them for? Fkin dumb old btch
September 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
86.Sullivan44 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
When the Raiders stop advertising on my t.v. screen, that I just turn on with a remote while sitting on my coach, freeway billboards that I just drive by, I’ll stop responding to their advertisements on forums open to the public, like this one.
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September 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Hendu, this blog isn’t owned by the Raiders. It’s owned by a media company entirely separate of the Raiders. Doesn’t Raiders.com have some kind of message board? Maybe you should go there. Or, you can always start your own blog, too. As far as this one goes, you’re not getting rid of us, sweetie. This blog is open to the public. Try not to be so sensitive to differing opinions.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Nicely said JB.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Hell fkin yeah a win vs denver would be impressive! HELLO ITS A DIVISION FOE ON THE ROAD IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE FKIN COUNTRY TO CLOSE WEEK 1…..Alexander u smarter than this
September 8th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
priesttj,
don’t hate a statistic simply because it doesn’t align with what you want.
If there’s a correlation between going 0-4 in preseason, and missing the playoffs, then there’s a correlation, whether you want it or not.
If you want to believe 8 out of 51 is a fluke, so be it.
51 teams is a good sample size.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Those 2 QB’s tonight are the real deal, too bad we don’t have a QB like that
September 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
sell tickets? lol. I don’t work for the Raiders. I am a consumer. Not an employee.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
So after we beat Denver, we’re going to hear from some of these guys how the sky will fall in NY since the game starts at 10 est.
Then, after we come home 2-0, we’re going to hear how we don’t have a chance against the Jets.
Blah, blah, blah, efffinnn blah!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
September 8th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Method,
I just look long-term.
I didn’t get giddy when Jamarcus Russell beat Denver.
Why? Because we still sucked. I prefer long-term joy over a cupcake followed by tons of crap.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
MR…..yeah and ibabuzz can have Raider photos and live chats with pplayers without Raiders approval…..blog is dedicated to the raiders you fkin dumbass
September 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
When hue is saying he wants to win, even preseason games, and the team not even being competitive in those games, it’s a lil worrisome
September 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Oh really Alexander I wonder why uu didnt get excited about a 2-8 team winning vs denver….go figure
September 8th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
“I’m all for going 1-0 ……”-no you aren’t.Nothing could make you more unhappy than the Raiders starting good or having a successful season.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Sorry Alex…I have to disagree because the “main-focus” of preseason is to “evaluate-players” and to cut almost half of them, who, if not saved can end up on the oppositions team. Winning is nice but it’s not the main focus. If it was, then during a close game, with a few minutes left…in the “red-zone” … the starters would be sent in. Never happens. Even kicking a winning field goal will be kicked by the kicker trying to beat out the starter. I can’t rememeber sending in Seabass when there was one or two minutes left in the game. He’s already in his sweats.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
it’s very likely that we go 2-0, then get smashed by the Jets, Patriots, Vikings, and Texans, on our way to 6-10.
I didn’t get excited about our 3 wins in our 3-13 season either.
Is that weird? If you’re giddy over the few wins, aren’t you really ticked off at the big losses? Isn’t emotional connection to a team an all-in thing?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
No one is forcing you to follow the Raiders
September 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Lefty12, the mind-reader!
Yay we win one game! Dang, we’re a 7-9 team tops, making it pointless to commit money or emotion at any strong level this year.
It’s like getting excited over winning $50 when you owe the IRS $1,000.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Jhill exactly….MR needs to get out the house and Kell needs to take the dirt nap
September 8th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
JB that is a very cogent point sir post#99 that was a hallmark of the team under Cable. We just didn’t know what we would see come Sunday good offense?? bad offense??Good defense bad defense…. we were all over the place it was almost maddening. It started to stabilize a bit with the explsoive offense but we still has bad loses (Miami and Jax). Hujack has to show that he can get this team to perform on a more consistent basis.
I think that is one of the best post of the day…Can Hujack get the team to elite status (play at a high level consistent). We showed at times we can play at a very high level then hit the skids next week.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Alexander….i promise u the pats wont beat us lol….thats one game Im not worried about…..vikings on turf? Oh we gonna ace them phaggots too
September 8th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
troll alert,112,maybe alex or mrs,sure as hell isnt mtmm,pissaunts,I would say! Raiders!!!!!!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Hagar,
did you see angry Hue sending in JC late in the 2nd quarter when Seattle had their backups in, trying to get a score?
I did. He wanted to win. Starting D gave up an AVERAGE of 60 yards per drive. There is no hidden exotic scheme to conceal. It says something.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
September 8th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Alexander 7-9 tops….wanna bet on that schit?
September 8th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
I actually agree with Alex, even if we beat Denver, a team that’s more flawed then us, won’t get me too juiced, beat new England and the jets, then u will get my attention and well start getting some respect around the league again, right now I feel this team has many flaws, QB who plays scared, unproven wrs, questionable linebackers that’s still not a force against the run, and safeties and corners who are vulnerable in pass coverage, right now hue is just another jive talking puppet until he proves me wrong, don’t talk about building a bully, be about it!
September 8th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Oh Method, make me $20 richer and show me your true fanaticism on that Raiders vs Patriots game. I’ll spot you 7 points.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Pipe Layer,
way to keep it real.
With all those flaws, don’t blame us for being bummed out about our lack of hope.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I think you all come down to hard on the Raiders for keeping certain players. What group doesn’t have “pets” of some kind? I don’t see this from other teams as much. I am not even sure most you know who the general managers are of many teams. But every one clues in on Al Davis. Looks like from last year he has lost use of his hands for most things. Al needs daily PT.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Alexander….ive seen many ppl like u in life….already defeated in ur mind just chalkin up the Jets,Pats and Texans as for sure losses….its weak minded man
September 8th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Of course Method.
I like using a bit of extra cash to make sports entertainment more entertaining when the Raiders don’t give you much of that.
I am willing to put $20 on the Patriots -7 and $40 on Oakland not going better than 7-9.
We are NOT going 6-0 in our division, and there’s a REASON we were 2-8 outside our division last year, WITH Hue,Seymour, and a weak schedule.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Pipe layer Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Those 2 QB’s tonight are the real deal, too bad we don’t have a QB like that
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It was more than just the QB’s. Both teams are in what I equate to the elite level. They both definitely set a standard for us to aspire to. We don’t really know what we have yet. We will come Tuesday morning. Then it will be back to work to get better by practice, practice & more practice. We definitely have some of the needed high quality pieces. Just how many is yet to be determined by competition.
Would our team be better with either of tonight’s QB’s. You bet we would but wish in one hand and schit in the other and you know which will fill up first. Soup has the necessary skill sets. He just needs to develop them and work hard at improving his trade. Don’t forget that neither of those QB’s would be as great as they were tonight without outstanding WR’s. Finishing that thought, neither of those QB’s tonight would have been successful without great lines. It really starts up front and both lines played great against great D lines. Great components make for great teams which make for great games.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
weak minded? I’m not playing. I don’t need to be strong minded.
It’s called being a realist.
I knew we’d get blown out vs the Steelers too. What’s weak about that? I just know the game.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Ma name is AL, I’m a raving lunatic, ma brain is wasted, dementia did the trick….
There’s plenny a oozin with doo-doo in my shorts, smells so bad wifey keeps me on the porch…..
In case ya don’t know it’s 1969, Blanda is 3rd n 1, runs it over the line.
Many say I am out of ma mind, yet I found me a Plunk, slug called Jason, he’s quite a find.
Hired a bald headed tooner a cheer leader is he, gonna make ma team a bully 1,2,3. Told him to wear lil speedo and tutu, gee…..he can flip in the air, somersault, if he falls n breaks his neck it aint my fault…
So I hired rehashed garbage by the name of Bresnahan, or is it Art Shell, he’s a hell of a man. Our defense is trash, worst in the league, Denver will kick our a..es I can’t disagree….
When we go 4 and 12, remember what I said, purple drank, overhead projector n Lancy when he fled. There aint no use thanking things ‘ll change, until I’m dead n gone, then they’ll write me a song….
Caint ya jus die AL ???????
September 8th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Some of us were sitting here last year DESCRIBING how the Steelers pass-rush would make JC shrivel up.
And he got benched in the 2nd half.
It’s just x’s and o’s, and some of us see that above the emotional hype.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
It dosen’t matter who we play, a win is a win in regular season and thats what you shoot for this week. Fk thinking about jets and pats, need to beat Denver.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Alexander….be a fkin man and expect to beat the oodds….i dont like everything with the roster but Im not gonna give u before the fight starts
September 8th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
ok, brien, tell me how much of IBA’s stock that Al DAvis owns. I’ll wait.
September 8th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Alexander….we can bet on Pats game….but im talkin that 7-9 bs…..u never post on this blog again if u lose
September 8th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
So Brees has had great linemen and receivers every year of his career?
Great QBs like Rodgers makes stars out of guys named Jordan Nelson that would be cut on other teams.
Our leader passed on Rodgers to draft a speedy CB, again.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Alex…you just said it…”2nd-quarter.” If Hue would have sent him in the 4th quarter, then there would be meaning. You just proved my point.
Now, with that being said, if you were to revise your belief and state: If we only count the stats and scores of the “starters against starters” and the “first and second quarters only”…then there would be importance to that belief/stat/etc.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
MR….HAS NADA TO DO WITH STOCK AT ALL…..And the “I’ll wait” stuff is something Ive coined on here clownin ur sorry ass….find a new angle. if u are gullible enough to think the Raiders are powerless with this blog then youre dumber than I thought
September 8th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
When the patties struggle against MIA, will everybody assume they’re gonna be 7-9.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Ha ha ha. Brien, this blog is totally separate from the Raiders. The Raiders have no control over it. If you think differently, just go ahead and tell me how much of IBA Al owns.
I’LL WAIT!
September 8th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
JB,
can you PLEASE PLEASE tell us how JC has the “necessary skill set”?
Why has he been bottom-15 QB throughout his 7 year career, despite having pro-bowlers at WR, RB, LT, and TE?
Why has he been benched for Todd Collins, 40-year old Mark Brunell, and Gradkowski?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Alexander…..be a fkin man! Expect to be a winner….expect to rise above it all…..THAT’S WHAT MEN DO!
September 8th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
hA HA HA. As much as Jerry has bashed Al in recent years….Brien thinks the Raiders have control over this blog. My goodness. We might need drug tests in here.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
The necessary skill set. lmfao.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
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[..] like it or not [.] Oakland is going to knock the backside of denvers ass all over the field [..] some so called Raiders fans won’t be happy [..] many so called bronco fans won’t be happy about it. they just do not know who to root for [..] bronco fans want the Raiders to win [..] but all true Raiders fans will know the Raiders won.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
U make great points JB, but I really don’t believe J campbell has the intangibles to be that type of QB regardless, u either have it or u don’t, heart also plays a big role, I see fear in camp bells eyes and he takes way too long to makes his reads and get rid of that ball, if u give him time, he can make an accurate throw, but when that pocket breaks down, which it does alot in the nfl with all the great pass rushers, he falls apart, poor instincts under pressure, poor pocket awareness and poor scrambling ability, he cant throw on the run, I don’t trust him running a two minute drill and hes very inaccurate with the long ball which is important in al Saunders offense, but he’s all we got right now, guess we gotta roll with him, but he’s not the QB who’s gonna take us to the promised land
September 8th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
We’re fine. Campbell has the necessary skill set. We saw that necessary skill set against Rams and Pittsburgh last year.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
MR….how the blog separate from Raiders?lol….explain that please….this is the city newspaper for Oakland…..Tribune cant do and say whatever they feel
September 8th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Hagar, the STARTERS on D gave up an avg. of 60 yards per drive.
We’ve covered this. They were playing the same vanilla man-man D that they ALWAYS play, with a few shaky zones mixed in. There’s nothing to hold back when you play man 90% of plays.
THAT’S THEIR ENTIRE D PLAYBOOK.
(ok guys, this time play that “other” type of man coverage).
September 8th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
IMO beating Denver is HUGE for 2 reasons. They are a division opponent and it starts us out at 1-0 instead of in the hole. I know they aren’t an elite team that is not my point. Every Sunday is crucial wins bring confidence and confidence brings wins. Getting to 2-0 make it even more possible that you can get to 3-0. Confident teams are very hard to beat at home the Jets while they have a very good defense can be had if you beta the Jets and get to 3-0 do you think the Pat’s will be more confident coming in here or less?? Just a thought….
September 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
lol Sullivan.
Don’t forget against the 49ers and Titans, when he folded under pressure (career trend), made bad reads (career trend), held the ball too long (career trend), and took a knee when he THOUGHT the D had jumped off-sides (that was original!).
Some skill set.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
brien, tell me how much of IBA.com the Raiders control financially. Not one employee at IBA.com is paid by the Raiders. Go ahead, name one. I’LL WAIT.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Pull up the blog fix where Jerry bashes Al…..stating what certain players do in practice isnt bashing dummy
September 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I don’t know if Campbell has the necessary skill set for the CFL
September 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Jets ran on Seymour-led defense for 300 yards en route to a 38-0 win in Oakland.
How has our run D improved?
Simple question.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
I wonder which team will give the fat, ugly, Rob Ryan a chance to run their defense after he fails in Dallas with his “prevent-defense?” Maybe Marty Schottenheimer who is now a coach in the United Football League, who coaches the Virginia Destroyers will give him a job.
No, I don’t think Marty is that stupid. Unlucky, yes, won 14-2 for the dischargers and he got fired.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
lmao. Jerry hates the Raiders, and fired one shot after another at the organization for his entire tenure here. Shows how much this is a “Raider” blog, dumbass. Not one single person at IBA answers to anyone with the Raiders, including Al.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
MR DO U NOT READ?….I said it has nada to do with stocks….original premiise was me tellin u to not follow team….if u are reading this blog….u following Raiders u dumb fk
September 8th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
What’s up Alex M!
Shout out to my new FB Raider Homey.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Yeah sure MR and thats why they are humble as hell when they are around Al….they know not to get out of line
September 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Method, “be a man!”??
I’m not actually playing in these NFL games. You get that, right?
Me “manning up”, whatever that is, won’t change a thing.
We’re just watching x’s and o’s on the tv screen, and ours suck.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
170.Method To My Madness Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
MR DO U NOT READ?….I said it has nada to do with stocks….original premiise was me tellin u to not follow team….if u are reading this blog….u following Raiders u dumb fk
September 8th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
brien, you’re in full retard mode. Well, you pretty much always are. But tonight you’re showing it. This blog has nothing to do with the Raiders. IT’s a separate media agency. Nobody at IBA answers to the Raiders. So lol@ your dumb insinuations that the bloggers here somehow answer to the Raiders. They don’t. That’s why Jerry told it like it was for years.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
This blog isnt about random schit….its about the Raiders….so u hating something that u cant hel but follow….that’s a moron for real
September 8th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Hue wanted to beat the whiners, i think he was even surprised his team laid that dud when they knew he wanted it, preseason or not that game mattered to hue, building a bully means bragging rights for the bay also, I really hope this team shows up Monday night and dominates, a close win over the garbage broncos would be a disappointment, gotta start knocking teams out that don’t deserve to be on the field with us, we have to start imposing our will and dominate, play with heart, right now I only see a few players playing with heart, seymour, denarius, hagan, bush
September 8th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Blog has nothing to do with Raiders? Lol yall see MR?What is this blog for?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Brien, jerry was clowning Al after the overhead projector, as was every media agency. If you can’t get that through your thick,retarded skull, I can’t help you.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
loving something you can’t help
hating something you can’t help
what’s the difference?
At least the haters are right, and would like to see things change.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Alex…you must work as a defense attorney, as you don’t give up on your point, even when there is no real substance to it. Great, I love that, keep on fighting on. Hope the Raiders do that on Monday nite.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Nobody here answers to Al, Brien. Al has no control over anything here. That’s why so many come here to clown him.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Alexander its about that btch spirit u carrying…..your attitude is everything in this life. U betta shake that weak spirit cuuz we plan on doin big things this year
September 8th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Would Al ever hire a Dom Capers or a Gregg Williams?
Of course not.
Will we ever have a top D unless we re-do a veteran-led 2002 offense?
Of course not.
Annoying.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
MR……WHY WAS THIS BLOG CREATED?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Pipe layer Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
U make great points JB, but I really don’t believe J campbell has the intangibles to be that type of QB regardless, u either have it or u don’t, heart also plays a big role, I see fear in camp bells eyes and he takes way too long to makes his reads and get rid of that ball, if u give him time, he can make an accurate throw, but when that pocket breaks down, which it does alot in the nfl with all the great pass rushers, he falls apart, poor instincts under pressure, poor pocket awareness and poor scrambling ability, he cant throw on the run, I don’t trust him running a two minute drill and hes very inaccurate with the long ball which is important in al Saunders offense, but he’s all we got right now, guess we gotta roll with him, but he’s not the QB who’s gonna take us to the promised land
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All valid points and you could be correct. Maybe right now it’s a case of the glass half full or half empty. Some of the shortcomings you mentioned can be overcome with continued familiarity with the offense and the players. Confidence does improve one’s results. I believe over time this year we will see dramatic improvements. we he ever get to Brees or Rodger’s level? Probably not but he is the best we have at the moment. He’s also the best we’ve had since Gannon went down. Can he win us some games with his arm? Yes I think he can and will. If you think back, when Plunkett came to the Raiders, (I was there to see it) he really stunk the place up. A year or two later he was able to win the Big one. He didn’t do it by himself but that’s because this IS a team game. And, it’s the team that wins and not the individual.
A parting thought. Our shot at a real franchise QB went down the crapper with JaLoser. He set us back a minimum of 5 years. At least this year, it appears that we are going in the right direction. My personal goal for this 2011 team is to win the AFC-West and one game in the playoffs. If we accomplish that, we’ve made giant strides.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Pipe layer, have you actually watched Jason Campbell play? or are you watching another QB because this idea of him being scared and poor scrambling and poor decision making……….I haven’t seen that player.
I’ve wathed both Rodgers and Brees when under pressure make bad plays, Brees threw a ton of int’s last year due to protection issues and IMO there is no more accurate QB in the league. I’ve seen every QB in history under pressure make bad decisions. Because pressure will do that to you.Drew Brees had his worse season in a while last year as a result of PRESSURE!!
September 8th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Ummm haters like MR been wrong more than not…..try again Alexander
September 8th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Method,
in life, I am a blessed and joyful person.
When talking about the Raiders, I’m a realist who sees there is NOT MUCH to get excited about.
This isn’t life. Come on.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Alexander u make no sense…..why spend time and energy on something you hate?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
IMO beating Denver is HUGE for 2 reasons. They are a division opponent and it starts us out at 1-0 instead of in the hole. I know they aren’t an elite team that is not my point. Every Sunday is crucial wins bring confidence and confidence brings wins. Getting to 2-0 make it even more possible that you can get to 3-0. Confident teams are very hard to beat at home the Jets while they have a very good defense can be had if you beta the Jets and get to 3-0 do you think the Pat’s will be more confident coming in here or less?? Just a thought….
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GOOD THOUGHTS – well put.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Wait,
haters have been wrong more than not?
During 37-91 run last 8 years?
What??
September 8th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Alexander I highly doubt that schit…..I can see in heat of moment u will btch up
September 8th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Method,
I love debate and logic. I spend time and energy on that.
I don’t spend much time on the Raiders, because they’re not well-run or exciting.
I would LOVE to treck down to Oakland and spend $$ more often to watch them play, but they give me no reason to.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
And this is a part of your life! Alexander things that interests u are apart of it big dawg….try again
September 8th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
heat of what moment?
This is sports entertainment.
It’s like a tiny fruit fly in the grand scheme of life.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Exactly and becuz sports dont go ur way u give u like a lil brat……just dont follow the team
September 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
something to ponder for the future; Mr. Jacoby Ford’s qb [as was Mr. Murphy's if I recall correctly] in college was Tim Tebow, should he become a free agent, should the Raiders consider signing him as a backup qb?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
debate = good for your brain. I enjoy it.
Raiders last 8 years are not good for your brain.
Have not been enjoying them, unfortunately.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Man up and roll with it or just bounce man
September 8th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
uh oh RR,
you just opened up a can of anti-tebow hate!
Ford didn’t go to Florida though. He was at Clemson.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
A lot of guys get on Alex in here, but the dude is just being realistic and honest, I can relate cuz as a raider fan I’m just tired of the BS, I’m not gonna sugarcoat or fluff up a team that still has many flaws, when al quits meddling and gets a real QB and D Coordinator in here, quits overpaying for mediocre talent, then maybe we can make a serious run in the playoffs, until then were just an average team, we have some good pieces, but this team still has a ways to go. I don’t wanna just make the playoffs, in wanna win it all and add another Lombardi trophy to our collection
September 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Yeah well losing aint been fun for any of us but ur negative doom n gloom schit isnt needed all day n nite……just leave and go back to that so called happy life
September 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Al watch Darren Sproles impact the game?
Can we stick our best punt returner back there, please?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
predicting a realistic 7-9 is not doom and gloom.
Thanks Pipe Layer.
Let’s get more of those 20,000 season-ticket holders to say “no mas” until real changes are made.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Nonpipe Having…..tired of it? Bounce. Its that simple
September 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Tebow= nada
I watch him and think does he realize he has a team around him to do what he keeps trying to do?
When he went over to his coach and told him there’s only one player that should get touch this ball(or something to that affect) I said this guy obviously took a loong coffee break and is on a caffien high like no other. He wants to beat you by himself and at this level you cannot win like that. Will he ever learn that and how long will it take?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Realistic? Hell no its not….ur the type of jcat that will be happy to be wrong later on this season…..which is sad
September 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Good post JB, and I hope Campbell proves me wrong, Im just not seeing it
September 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Anyone who hopes to be wrong is a coward
September 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
something to ponder for the future; Mr. Jacoby Ford’s qb [as was Mr. Murphy's if I recall correctly] in college was Tim Tebow, should he become a free agent, should the Raiders consider signing him as a backup qb?
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Usually your posts are well thought out but this one can only be considered a brain fart. We don’t need another RB (especially one that pretends to be a QB) and there’s no slot available for a chaplin. Tebow is a joke – definitely not a QB. He won’t be in the league 2 years from now. Not the worst 1st round pick (I save that one for Ja Loser) but probably in the top 10 worst 1st round pick decisions.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
The Blueprint (thanks Saints, Packers, Steelers, Patriots)
1.) Get franchise QB at all costs (no wasted time on retreads).
2.) Get a top-tier D-Coordinator.
The plan isn’t that complicated. To not even TRY and execute it is kinda silly.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
NonPipe Having is a perfect example lol
September 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Brien, talking about not having a life. What do you get for defending the Raiders this vehemently?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Ill take 20K real Raiders than some punk btch fake mthfkas anyday…..we dont need u chumps
September 8th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Pats blueprint? No way lol….that team isnt winning a damn thing again….cross them out
September 8th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
brien, how vehemently you and priest defend the Raiders is just as anti-social and bizarre as anyone bashing the team. You guys aren’t employees. You’re just consumers that buy jerseys and go to games. I can see sticking up for your team a little, just for fun. But anyone who spends an entire day on a blog defending a sports team they have no occupational affiliation with is just as psychotic as anyone who spends the same amount of time bashing the team.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
So…7-9 is unrealistic Method?
Is that the bottom line of your argument?
7-9 with this 8-8 team that lost 3 of it’s top players and has a harder schedule…is unrealistic.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Priest are u serious? Have u seen Campbell try and run? He trips over his own feet, he’s terrible
September 8th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
MR i get the joy of clowning u and see you be a coward and not talk face to face like this
September 8th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
I wouldn’t want him,but what is the difference between Tebow,Newton,and Pryor?
September 8th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
3 top players? Gallery wasnt a top player….stop
September 8th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Method,
I like what the Patriots, Steelers, Packers, and Saints did the last 6 years with that QB/D-Coordinator blue print.
Call me crazy.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Anyhow….im outro….Alexander be a fkin man! and MR stop being a coward
September 8th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Wild game tonight. I am always amazed that pro coaches are so stupid. They always pile everyone up together and try to run up the middle. It never works. It would be much better to spread the formation, and then run up the middle.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Pipe layer OK! if you say so….
September 8th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
jb and priest I do agree with you on Tebow; although should Mr. Hue Jackson ever get Tebow to consider playing LB and be an emergency 3rd/4th string qb, behind Mr. Pryor, Mr. Campbell, and/or Mr. Boller; it would be a smart pickup.
I was just ponder the thought. Monday seems like a Christmas eve that will never end.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Wasbanned Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Woodson throws a punch and stays in the game. If that was a Raider, him the coach, and half the fans would have been ejected.
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Comedy! That’s rite
September 8th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Jets, what’s turning them around?
D-Coordinator coach. QB.
Ravens, what’s helped you? D-Coordinator, QB.
.
This is 21st century football 101.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
alex7 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
The Blueprint (thanks Saints, Packers, Steelers, Patriots)
1.) Get franchise QB at all costs (no wasted time on retreads).
2.) Get a top-tier D-Coordinator.
The plan isn’t that complicated. To not even TRY and execute it is kinda silly.
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Cant argue with your plan because it’s right on. But, I do have a question for you. Do you or did you consider Gannon as a franchise QB? If you did, then you need to modify the plan a bit. If not then we can never agree as I did/do consider Gannon as franchise a QB as one can have. Just saying…
September 8th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Just think, Brien, you didn’t get paid a dime today for all of the time you spent in here defending a washed up owner. You’ve got your priorities straight in life, don’t you? loser.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Alex7 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
predicting a realistic 7-9 is not doom and gloom.
Thanks Pipe Layer.
Let’s get more of those 20,000 season-ticket holders to say “no mas” until real changes are made.
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Unfortunately, with a stubborn owner the only real change that might come from that is a change of scenery. New stadium in LA being on the top of that list.
But hey, at least there would be a bigger draw for better players to want to sign.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
See ya Method.
I forgot out O-line was so awesome last year outside of Gallery that we expected Wiz, Campbell, and Barksdale to possibly start.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Hey method, if everyone just manned up and rolled with it, there would never be change in this world, real leaders aren’t afraid to speak up when something’s obviously not being done the right way, maybe ur the real coward and just a follower, u don’t really make great points, u just come in here and call people names like an immature kid, lemme guess, ur next line is gonna be ” f u, let’s meet outside of this blog and I’ll beat ur a..”. LOL.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Football is an emotional game. If the Raiders win in Denver, it means something. Confidence is key. If they win in Denver, they will win at least one game over the Jets or Patriots.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Everybody hear rooted like heck for KC to beat SD in the opener last season, and they did. Who thought KC would go 10-6? Nobody, but they won the opener and went 10-6 and won the AFC West.
September 8th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Los Angeles doesn’t want the Raiders. That is a dead issue. I guarantee you a sellout for the Jets and Patriots games if the Raiders win the Denver game.
September 8th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
JB Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
alex7 Says:
September 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
The Blueprint (thanks Saints, Packers, Steelers, Patriots)
1.) Get franchise QB at all costs (no wasted time on retreads).
2.) Get a top-tier D-Coordinator.
The plan isn’t that complicated. To not even TRY and execute it is kinda silly.
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Cant argue with your plan because it’s right on. But, I do have a question for you. Do you or did you consider Gannon as a franchise QB? If you did, then you need to modify the plan a bit. If not then we can never agree as I did/do consider Gannon as franchise a QB as one can have. Just saying…
Even had Gannon been considered a “franchise QB,” we lacked a “top tiered DC” which in my opinion cost 2/3 playoff (2000-02) runs the SB.
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