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Raiders post-practice notes, quotes and anecdotes (9-9-11)

By Steve Corkran
Friday, September 9th, 2011 at 10:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Finally, some real news to sink our teeth into as the Raiders regular-season opener against the Denver Broncos draws near.
Coach Hue Jackson said Friday night that it’s unlikely that tight end Kevin Boss and backup safety Mike Mitchell will play, given they haven’t practiced at all this week.
He said he won’t reveal his starting wide receivers and punt returner until after practice Saturday afternoon. However, he said it’s pretty apparent who is going to return punts.
Based on that, it’s safe to assume that Nick Miller will return punts Monday, especially considering he has been the primary guy fielding punts in practice all week.
Rookie Denarius Moore joined Miller on punt returns Friday night. However, he said afterward that he is approaching things as if he is the backup to Miller.
“I have no idea what they’re going to have me doing,” Moore said. “Right now, I’m just backing up Nick Miller.”

*The other player who missed practice is third-year wide receiver Louis Murphy. That’s not such a big deal because he already has been ruled out of Monday’s game.
What qualifies as news came in an interview with Murphy in the locker room, the first since he underwent surgery for a groin injury midway through training camp.
Murphy said he is doing some light jogging and running around, but he isn’t as close to returning as he would like to be.
For now, he is resigned to missing more than just the Broncos game.
“I’m targeting the season home opener,” Murphy said. “That’s what we’re shooting for. If I could go to Buffalo, then that would be good. But, if not, we’ll try to shoot for that home opener.”
The Raiders play the Buffalo Bills on Sept. 18 before opening at home against the New York Jets on Sept. 25.
Murphy said he was diagnosed with a sports hernia and that the recovery time is four to six weeks for an athlete, six to eight weeks for a non-athlete.
If there’s a silver lining for Murphy, the Raiders leading wide receiver each of the past two seasons, it’s that his injury happened during training camp and he should be back for most of the regular season.
“I still have high hopes,” Murphy said. “If I miss a couple games, I still feel like I’ll have a pretty good season. Hopefully, I’ll play 14 games this year and help the team get to the playoffs.”

*Middle linebacker Rolando McClain is just like Jackson in that he isn’t too worried about the way the Raiders defense played during the four exhibition games.
The fact the Raiders return 10 of the 11 starters from last year’s defense makes it that much easier for the defense to come together in short order. At least that’s the assumption.
“We’ve practiced together, so, obviously, we know what we’ve got,” McClain said. “Pretty much the same guys as last year, with a few exceptions here and there. But we know what we’ve got, we know what we’ve got to do. It’s not about what we’ve got, it’s about going out and proving ourself. That’s the task at hand.”
McClain and cornerback Chris Johnson missed a handful of practices during camp. Johnson echoed McClain’s sentiments about the defense being up to speed.
“Defense is defense,” Johnson said. “Everybody knows the defense. I don’t think we’ll have a problem meshing together. We started training camp together, nicks and bruises are going to come, but come Monday night we’ll be ready to go. We’ll jell well.”

*For what it’s worth, Jacoby Ford and Darrius Heyward-Bey were the wide receivers with the first-team offense during the media access window Friday night.

*Quote of the night: “Not yet. Not yet. Can’t get out yet. How we doing tonight? We can’t open that can up just yet.” — Jackson, when asked if the lightning was his idea of opening up a can of …

*Rookie running back Taiwan Jones was limited at practice the past two nights, at least.
We learned about his foot injury only as a result of the official injury report coming out Friday morning, as mandated by the league.
Otherwise, it likely would have been kept under wraps the way it has for however long. Jones was not available for comment after practice.

*Defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan spoke with the media for the second time since he was hired to replace John Marshall. The first time came during training camp.
Bresnahan since has had the privilege of seeing his players together for more than a month and through four exhibition games.
His take?
“Progress, but slow,” Bresnahan said. “We’re taking the strides. The things you saw in the preseason were very vanilla and not a lot of playing time for the 1s, obviously. We’ve gotten the practice time and we’re excited to get out there and show what we’ve got in Denver.”
One of the changes you can expect to see is Michael Huff moving from free safety to nickel back in obvious passing situations. As for who will replace Huff at free safety in such situations, Bresnahan said he has some things in mind.
Logical option include Matt Giordano, Jerome Boyd and, perhaps, Chimdi Chekwa.
Bresnahan said McClain has impressed him with the way he has taken charge of the defense in only his second season. He expects McClain to play a heightened role this season.
“Rolando is going to be the heartbeat of our defense,” Bresnahan said. “We have a lot of veterans, but he is the guy that is going to be our signal-caller. He’s in the middle taking control and he’s excited to get going, and I am excited to see him play Monday night.”
The Raiders have worked out outside linebackers Lofa Tatupu and Tully Banta-Cain since training camp opened. Still, Bresnahan is encouraged by what he has seen out of weak-side linebacker Quentin Groves.
“He’s in a situation where he needs to gain experience at the linebacker position, so we played him in both base and the nickel,” Bresnahan said. “And it was really, really beneficial for him, because he got a lot of experience, lots of playing times, saw a lot of things he may not have seen yet in the limited experience he had last year.”

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  • REALLIONAIREB

    My eye iz on hue and hiz redone playcalling…and soup execution of those calls…diz can be da difference of uz being contenders or pretenders…cuz dere iz no doubt in my mind we will get dere alot diz season…redone production will be big

  • willflo818

    LT:Jared Veldheer
    6′ 8″, 315 lbs

    LG:Stefen Wisniewski
    6′ 3″, 315 lbs

    C:Samson Satele
    6′ 3″, 300 lbs

    RG:Cooper Carlisle
    6′ 5″, 295 lbs

    RT:Khalif Barnes
    6′ 5″, 325 lbs

    VS

    DE:Robert Ayers
    6′ 3″, 274 lbs

    DT:Brodrick Bunkley
    6′ 2″, 306 lbs

    DT:Kevin Vickerson
    6′ 5″, 290 lbs

    DE:Elvis Dumervil
    5′ 11″, 260 lbs
    …………………………….
    Our Offensive line will maul these guys! Plus throw in a solid TE Brandon Myers
    at 6-4, 250 lb. and the fact that they have no DJ Williams! And that his backup
    is a puny 6’0 230 lb.! Shoot Reece would look like a beast lead blocker blocking
    Woodyard(Reece:6-3 240 lb.)! Not only are we bigger than the Donkeys, we’re way
    younger and FASTER! Look for fireworks on Monday night. I can’t stress our size enough, it’s awesome!

  • fingers

    After Monday nights game there won’t be anything left on the field but ” glue, bones and Donkey Teeth…Raiders will Romp the Donks

    Raiders 38…. Donks 17

  • TheGeneral

    The only one who concerns me on the Oline is Barnes! Other than that im cool. We are going to have BIG RICH BACK ALONG WITH DMC! and i dont care about DHB starting because after the first play he will be subbed out. Cj is back and i bet orton is having nightmares from the last time he threw a pick six to him. Routt will hold his own no doubt if he do good this year or better than last year bet he wont get no credit. They want to see it as since nam is gone we still have no one pshhhh screw em. I appreciate the time of nnam being here but what did he do for us last year…so he leaves for a team with no sb victories and vick sucks against a good Defense and the Packers are the real deal in the NFC so i dont see the Dream Team doing nothing! But when nnam get a Int im sure we all have to hear it bs but i moved on he aint do nothing for us last year hence why his contract was voided so why bother? And. DVD got abused but he will learn. Our D wil be fine only weak link is groves but he better show up and play or thats the door. And screw all bspn analyst and especially warren fat sob sapp the only reason they picked the ponys is because of our loses(miller nnamdi cable)

  • raidermarty

    The excitement and anticipation is riding high now. I’m ready to see the RAIDERS come out and play a great game! There are so many different angles to this game it’s hard to predict what’s gonna happen. I just think if we can execute Hugh’s gameplan we’ll beat denver.
    Big test for Hugh to see if he’s got this team going in the right direction. For what it’s worth i think he does.
    GO RAIDERS!!

  • raiderzmaverick

    There’s something not right with who’s working with the WRs. Every SINGLE one of them except Moore has gone through injuries. MUCH more than any other position on the team. DHB was out 2-3 weeks. Murphy out many weeks. Ford out 3 weeks. Schillens…well…
    Now Hagan…

  • raiderzmaverick

    Barnes is our weak link on offense. The starter I’d most like to replace now.

    Depth is our weakness on Defense. All LBs and CBs have NO depth worth talking about.

    If any get hurt (or when we have to throw out extra CBs) there will be clear people to pick on.

  • TerrapinRaider

    Expect ground n pound, screen passes and some playactoin deep.

    Denver is week up the middle. Half of their DTs are injured (maybe both starters?). So they are very weak there. And although Dummer & Von are speed rushers they are also light in the caboose. The run should be a major concern for Denver.

    So they will stack the box over that concern no doubt.

    On Oaklands side we will be most concerned about the 3rd CB or safety play. Huff will come down, someoe will replace him a FS. Huff is good, but CB is not his full time gig.

  • Kirk

    DHB is starting? This is unbelievable. He is the worst receiver on the team. Hopefully our running game will win the day.

  • TheGeneral

    DHB will come out after the first play

  • Kirk

    LOL! #60

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    DHB will get some opportunity to make plays. An I KNOW we all want to see him make them. Rite fellas

  • Kirk

    Hopefully DHB will block well. That and drawing pass interference penalties are his strengths.

  • Angry Villager with Pitchfork

    Go Raiders! Go DHB!

  • realtruraider

    Raiders 34

    Broncos 24

  • M Lonetree

    The Hypocrite’s Oath

    was watching some NFL talking heads last night

    they spoke glowingly of how Julio Jones added to Roddy White gives the Falcons the ability to really stretch the field.

    they spoke admiringly of Baltimore landing Lee Evans allowing the Ravens to have that deep threat weapon.

    they spoke with awe of how fast Pittsburgh’s Mike Wallace is.

    the spoke knowingly that the Packers’ JerMichael Finley is so fast and so big.

    they spoke of the team speed of the Eagles.

    funny isn’t it.

    the preferred “vertical passing game” of the Raiders is sneered at. but when other teams employ the same measures they are lauded.

    “Raider speed” is an ongoing joke for the hypocrites, but when other teams look to faster players they are some kind of visionaries.

    the heads did not mention the Raiders in their “stretching the field” moments, but they did say that the Raider running game should pound the donkeys into a pathetic mass of ground meat (unless of course the zebras decide to mate with the donks bringing an endless stream of o-line penalties against the Raiders).

  • bcz24

    “Raider speed” is an ongoing joke for the hypocrites, but when other teams look to faster players they are some
    kind of visionaries.
    **********************8
    because those other teams have been successful at utilizing their speed, and we have not. If we use our speed and start scoring a lot of points on big plays the sneering will stop.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Lonetree,

    Until the Raiders start producing real results in the passing game…they are not going to get any respect.

    We’ve been talking about the speed and athleticism of this team for years…but they have yet to CONSISTENTLY put it on tape.

    DHB…all potential as of this post…gotta turn that into production…and that means catches, yards after catch and touchdowns…not talk.

    These Raiders have been together for a couple of years and they have some highly paid veterans…

    Time to put it on the field

  • IndianaRaider

    I’d love nothing more to see the Raiders come out and stomp the Broncos, but my gut tells me we are too over confident based off of last year, I pray I’m wrong but I can see us losing, 24-23 with a Dmac TD and a Ford TD and 3 FG but Denver snags the lead under 2min warning since we almost always jump to our “we don’t run a prevent” D.
    D 24 / O 23

  • raiderfancincy

    F**K The DONKEYS!!!!!
    Raiders in a Blow Out!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    and that means taking it right to the PHYSICAL football teams and those that are well-schemed.

    No more embarrassing losses like Pittsburgh, Miami and the Jets…

    Gotta be consistent week in and week out….sure one or two mulligans will happen in a season….

    But any more than that and we are back to TALKING about potential and future greatness etc….and not WATCHING greatness on the field.

  • RaiderNationPA

    I’m excited about the offense. DHB will be alright as long as they utilize him properly (slants, stops, hitches, etc.). An occational deep ball to him won’t bother me because he does draw alot of PI. He is terrible at adjusting to the ball though and seems to go into DB mode rather than attempting to catch the ball. Ford is our deep ball threat. I’d also like to see Reece active in the flats with McFadden/Bush acting as safety valves in front of the backers.

  • RaiderNationPA

    Defense concerns me. McClain still has not shown me the block-shedding close-on-the-ball ability that you see from the great Mikes like Willis. Although I attribute some of that to the penetration techniques of our DTs. Only Henderson acts as a two gap run-stuffer. Kelly and Seymour are typically in the backfield immediately, which is great if they make the tackle, but kills us if they don’t because blockers easily get to our backers and safeties. That’s why we see so many TFLs and 20+ yd runs. Boom or bust.

  • edward teach

    Lonetree,

    I see what you’re getting at. The initial reaction to the Raiders drafting for speed is “well, there they go again…”

    It seems, however, that the other teams that are getting raves for their speedy acquisitions are getting those raves because the players actually produce on the field.

    As bcz24 says, the pundits will stop making fun of the Raiders when/if some of these guys start making plays and the Raiders start winning games.

  • RaiderNationPA

    Major factor on offense will be Myers ability to run his routes at the chains on 3rd down. Miller was able to catch the ball short of the chains bc he could make a guy miss and pick up the 1st. It will be important that Myers already has the 1st down when he catches the ball. Those are the drive-extending catches that we need from him.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Anything less than a win is totally unacceptable.

    This roster is mostly ready to roll…and the Raiders roster is superior to the Broncos roster

  • RaiderNationPA

    Major factor on defense is ability of Routt and CJ to cover slants. The deep ball completions against us in the preseason were alarming, but at least guys were in position they just didn’t make plays on the ball. All of the slants completed against our corners really concern me. They either need to press more or occasionally drop a DE into the slant zone. Otherwise I could see us getting torched by slants all season.

  • Plunketthead

    Dont have a panic attack but TPs replacement at Buckeye state is twice the QB TP was.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    TP is a developmental project. Nothing more, nothing less.

    He might work out. For a 3rd round pick, I could care less.

    Just be thankful Al didn’t give up a 1st

  • raid

    The controversy that swirls around DHB has to take a back seat for the time being. If Al is forcing Hue to start him, we are screwewd, cuz that says Hue is not his own man. If Hue is doing that just to please Al, I trust he will have the gonads to bench him sooner than later. But whatever the case may be, he has to catch the ball, not let it bounce off his chest and into the hands of a defender. But if Al is forcing DHB on Hue, maybe Al is testing the guy to see if he really needs to drop down to 5 or 6. Hopefully when Ford and Moore and Hagan are producing big time, a role for DHB can be found that he fits with, but til the, we need to back off of DHB and get ready to beat Denver to a pulp.

  • Gerard

    78.Plunketthead Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 9:26 am
    Dont have a panic attack but TPs replacement at Buckeye state is twice the QB TP was.

    I’ll try to compose myself and take a couple Xanex but how do you make that ascertion when he’s only played one game against some patsy, low level program?

  • raid

    oakland 17
    broncos 3

  • 2romes

    My concern is letting the running slither in position to beat them with draw plays or plays out of the back field.The Raiders D should win the battle on the line. The Raider linemen and linebackers must keep the Broncos RB in there hip pocket, blowing him up while in disguise in screens and draw plays.

    Raiders D, get off the field on third down plays!!!
    Go Raiders !!!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Just two more days til the massacre
    at invesco mile high pt.2

  • o

    Time of possession will be a huge issue with this team. It MUST be 2:1 for the Raiders to be successful.

  • PlunkforHOF

    CODE BLACK 2011

  • RaiderNationPA

    2romes Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 9:41 am
    My concern is letting the running slither in position to beat them with draw plays or plays out of the back field.The Raiders D should win the battle on the line. The Raider linemen and linebackers must keep the Broncos RB in there hip pocket, blowing him up while in disguise in screens and draw plays.
    _

    Also a big concern. Blitzing LBs and Safeties need to recognize an escaping RB immediately. I remember watching Stevie Brown look right at the RB, hesitate slightly, and then continue his blitz against SEA. End result: 30+ yd screen. Can’t happen.

  • J Hill

    and that means taking it right to the PHYSICAL football teams and those that are well-schemed.

    No more embarrassing losses like Pittsburgh, Miami and the Jets…

    —————————————————-

    Bottom line is we are going to have to put points on the board by passing the ball. I wouldn’t count on us having big days against those teams on the ground without being able to throw the ball.

  • 2romes

    RaiderNationPA Says: You are absolutely right. We had seen this to many times. Raiders need to play smart!!!

  • redshirt

    Why in the hell can’t we sing Tatupu and Banta-Cain???!

  • redshirt

    Oakland 20
    Broncos 17

  • Gerard

    80.raid Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 9:36 am
    The controversy that swirls around DHB has to take a back seat for the time being. If Al is forcing Hue to start him, we are screwewd, cuz that says Hue is not his own man. If Hue is doing that just to please Al, I trust he will have the gonads to bench him sooner than later. But whatever the case may be, he has to catch the ball, not let it bounce off his chest and into the hands of a defender. But if Al is forcing DHB on Hue, maybe Al is testing the guy to see if he really needs to drop down to 5 or 6. Hopefully when Ford and Moore and Hagan are producing big time, a role for DHB can be found that he fits with, but til the, we need to back off of DHB and get ready to beat Denver to a pulp.

    Like Corkoran said, if DHB starts then Hue is not in charge of this tema the way he says he is.

    Just give it to us straight. Hue said starters would be determined by their own merit. Those that give us “the best chance to win” would start…PERIOD!

    If DHB starts it is obvious Hue is not really “the man”. Just tell us that.

    I know that’s too much to ask.

  • J Hill

    I hope we see some Shotgun with 3 WRs and Jones/DMAC in the backfield on 1st and 2nd down.

    Use these weapons we have early and often.

  • Gerard

    I’m disappointed in Mr. Davis. If he REALLY wants to win a Super Bowl right away then he has to actually go for it.

    JC may be a good QB ( for the sake of argument ) but NOBODY would say he’s even close to elite. Mr. Davis couldn’t do better than that? How about our defense? C’mon. Some good players, maybe even a great one in Seymour, but when you look at this roster can u really say Mr. Davis is truly going for a Super Bowl?

    Mr. Davis, you are 82 yrs. old. Time is a wastin’. Put together a GREAT team; not just one that the media won’t even pick to beat a team coming off a 4-12 season which hasn’t made any significant changes.

  • DKnight007

    63.Kirk Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 7:40 am
    Hopefully DHB will block well. That and drawing pass interference penalties are his strengths.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I wish Huey would utilize him more on reverses, quick WR screens, stop and go routes and deep comeback routes.

    I also wish DHB would be able to run screens. Can you imagine that guy breaking away and taking it to the house on a slant….him and Moore!

    DHB just needs to focus on catching the ball first and everything else after that will work itseld out.

  • Gerard

    Update:

    That great new QB at Ohio St. is losing to Toledo right now 15-14.

  • DKnight007

    85.o Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 9:43 am
    Time of possession will be a huge issue with this team. It MUST be 2:1 for the Raiders to be successful.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Raiders definitely need to control time of possession and score TD’s make sure that Chuck B lead defense is not on the field all day long!

  • DKnight007

    49.MiamiRaider78 Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 1:36 am
    I would love for Hue to run a 2 back set with McFadden and Jones in plenty of mis-direction screens and draw plays to slow down Dumervil and Miller when he decides to blitz…and I think they’ll bring the heat, early and often to test our o-line out. Pound the rock and set up some shots down field with play-action passes. On defense we need to CONTAIN the run and mix in some zone coverages and plenty of overload blitzes. Go Raiders! Oakland Raiders 26 Denver Broncos 14

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

    My thoughts exactly! They need to attack Dumervil side with by pounding the rock with DMC, Bush and Jones!

    By doing that, they wear Elvis down and beat him down physically making him tired and slow on pass plays.

  • dvrick

    # ghostraiders Says:
    September 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    I would be. Willing to pay $150 for all raiders games only… I could care less about the rest..
    ____FOOL!!!!!!!!

  • dvrick

    # PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 10th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    CODE WHITE 2011 We SURRENDER!!!!!