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Campbell says DHB has had it rough but his confidence at all-time high

By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 14th, 2011 at 2:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell has spent most of his football career trying to prove he deserves to be a starter. Hence, it’s no surprise that he is sympathetic to the criticism heaped upon wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey during the first two years of his NFL career.
Through it all, Heyward-Bey has remained upbeat, put his head down, worked hard and done everything asked of him by his coaches.
“That’s always been the case, ever since I was 14 and started playing,” Heyward-Bey said. “You put in the work, things will eventually start paying off. I’m still working. Monday was just me making plays at the right opportunity to help us win a game, and I am going to continue to do that.”
Finally, he is off to a fast start and in position to silence those who have criticized him for dropped passes, poor route running and lack of production the past two seasons.
“His confidence is at an all-time high since I’ve been here,” Campbell said of Heyward-Bey on Wednesday.
Campbell recounted how Heyward-Bey looked great at practice earlier today and is making strides toward being a consistent performer.
“You outta to have seen his practice today,” Campbell said. “The way the guy was going after balls and catching them. … It’s exciting to see because he has so much speed, he has great size and he can make a lot of plays in this league for us. That’s what we’re looking for. I’m excited about the way he’s playing right now.
Heyward-Bey caught four passes for 44 yards against the Denver Broncos on Monday night, both team-highs. Several of his receptions netted first downs and helped the Raiders control the clock at critical times.
“Everyone has been kind of hard on Darrius, and now he’s getting his turn to show what he can really do.” Campbell said. “This is his third year, and most of the time receivers really come into their own in their third year in the league. It’s exciting to see what he’s doing right now.”

*Tight end Kevin Boss returned to practice for the first time since he suffered a knee injury Aug. 20 in an exhibition game against the 49ers.
He was limited, according to coach Hue Jackson, but that beats not practicing at all. Boss was hopeful of making it back in time for the Broncos game. He now is hopeful that he will play against the Buffalo Bills on Sunday.
“It’s getting close,” Boss said. “It’s getting close. I’m really hoping that I can get out there this week.”
Boss watched the Broncos game on TV and said he felt more nervous than when he’s on the field. He is eager to make his Raiders debut and validate the team’s decision to sign him to a long-term contract during trainng camp.
“It’s definitely not the way I planned, coming out here and getting off to the start I wanted,” Boss said. “It’s kind of one of those deals it’s out of my hands. I trust everything will happen for a reason and I’ll get back out there and won’t miss a beat.”

*Free safety Michael Huff, wide receiver Jacoby Ford and defensive tackle Richard Seymour were among the five players who missed practice Wednesday.
Jackson said he will update the status of his injured players as the week progresses. For now, he isn’t saying whether he expects any of them to play.
It doesn’t look good for safety Mike Mitchell and receiver Louis Murphy making it back for the Bills game. They, too, missed practice and haven’t worked out with their teammates in several weeks. Jackson said they would need to practice some if they are to play against the Bills.

*Wide receiver Derek Hagan said he was prepared to play against the Denver Broncos on Monday night and that the “minor” calf injury he suffered in practice early last week had nothing to do with him being deactivated.
“It’s good,” Hagan said of his calf. “There really was never nothing wrong with it. I was good to go last week for Monday. I practiced all last week, and the calf’s good and ready to go for Sunday.”
Hagan was informed before the game that he wasn’t among the five wide receivers active for the game — Murphy also wasn’t activated because of his injury.
Obviously, it was a surprise to me being inactive. I was expecting to I was going to come into the game and help contribute to this team. Obviously, they put me down for that game but we got 15 more, and I’m definitely looking forward to the next 15.”
Hagan was Oakland’s most productive receiver during its four exhibition games. Yet, Jackson felt as if the Raiders had a better chance to win with Hagan on the bench.

*The Raiders have had three road games so far this season, including two in the exhibition season. None required more than a two-hour plane ride.
Traveling to Buffalo will require a 5-hour-plus flight and take the Raiders three time zones away from California. No big deal, Jackson said.
“We had this schedule a long time ago, and I know our players had it, and we talked about it this morning,” Jackson said. “We’re not going to let the travel or the accommodations or the food or the elements dictate how we’re going to play. We’re going to go play Raiders football the way we know how to play. We’re not going to get caught up in all of that.”

*Rookie quarterback Terrelle Pryor jogged out to the practice field just as his teammates were ending their practice Wednesday.
It’s part of the life Pryor leads these days, as he winds his way through a five-week suspension. Once again, he worked out on one of the three fields here with someone snapping him the ball, someone catching his passes and a third person overseeing his routine.
No word on the status of his appeal. Until further notice, he is not allowed to practice with his teammates or work under the guidance of anyone from the coaching staff.

*The Raiders attempted only 22 passes against the Broncos. Campbell completed 13 of those throws, with most of them being safe, short routes.
Campbell said there will be times this season when the Raiders open up the passing game. There wasn’t a need against the Broncos because running back Darren McFadden was succeeding in running the ball from the outset.
“A lot of it is based the coverages they were giving,” Campbell said. “And the other part of it was, we didn’t have to take the risk. Because we were running the ball very well, getting 9 or 10 yards a pop. And we were running time off the clock because we had the lead.”

*The Raiders are seeking to begin a season 2-0 for the first time since 2002, when they won their first four games and advanced to the Super Bowl.
They have started 2-0 only four times since 1990 — 1993, ‘95, 2000 and ‘02. Three of those times, the Raiders qualified for the playoffs.

*As soon as safety Matt Giordano intercepted a pass deep in Raiders territory, kicker Sebastian Janikowski had a feeling he was on the verge of attempting a long field goal.
Little did he know, the field goal he attempted would come from 63 yards away and give him a chance to tie the NFL record set by Tom Dempsey in 1970 and matched by Jason Elam in 1998.
“I know (Jackson’s) going to try a long one,” Janikowski said. “He’d been talking about it all week, that he’s going to give me a chance. Every time we cross the 50-yard line, I warm up anyway because you never know what’s going to happen. But Denver, that’s the different story.”
Sure enough, Jackson summoned Janikowski as time wound down in the first half. Janikowski converted the field goal with little room to spare.
Janikowski said he mishit the ball. So, what might happen if he drilled the ball just right?
“Top end? Maybe like a 74(-yarder),” Janikowski said. “Because I kicked a 70-yarder in warm-ups. Seventy-four, seventy-five, if you swing really hard. That’s probably the top.”
That’s in Denver, at high altitude. At sea level, Janikowski said he is confident he could make a field goal from as far as 68 yards.
Janikowski is thrilled to be tied for the record. However, the 63-yarder doesn’t rank as his best field goal since he joined the Raiders in 2000. That distinction goes to the 61-yarder he nailed in the snow at Cleveland in 2009.
Holder Shane Lechler said there isn’t any secret as to why Janikowski can kick the ball so far.
“Heck, it’s just all leg speed,” Lechler said. “Leg speed and contact. That’s really what it is. It’s really identical to hitting a golf ball. Contact is way more important than how hard you swing.”

*More on the injury front: Jackson said running back Darren McFadden, cornerback Chris Johnson and defensive end Jarvis Moss were limited in practice. Updates won’t be provided until Thursday, at the earliest.

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579 Responses to “Campbell says DHB has had it rough but his confidence at all-time high”

  1. RaiderLen Says:

    last

  2. J Hill Says:

    289.J Hill Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    One thing that didn’t get enough play in here was how DHB flat out roadkilled the guy who tried to tackle him on that 3rd down conversion.

    DHBeast is going to be a big contibutor for us this year.

    289.J Hill Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    One thing that didn’t get enough play in here was how DHB flat out roadkilled the guy who tried to tackle him on that 3rd down conversion. It was the rookie S Moore from UCLA. Don’t know if he got back in the game. Had 3 doctors looking at him when it came back from the commercial, lol.

    DHBeast is going to be a big contibutor for us this year.

  3. 89052RAIDER Says:

    I am not a fan of DHB, but I am pleased with his play on Monday. If he can continue to grab four balls a game than I will warm to the idea of him being a starter. He got his team two huge first downs. I did not know he had that in him.

  4. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “One thing that didn’t get enough play in here was how DHB flat out roadkilled the guy who tried to tackle him on that 3rd down conversion.”

    I talked a little bit about that last night in here it looked like Brandon Marshall out there breaking that tackle was huge.

  5. RaiderLen Says:

    DHB needs to catch what is thrown his way and make some plays.

    If he does this consistently, the critics will evaporate, and those that sing praises will appear.

    Simple really.

  6. Blandafan Says:

    I feel like someone is forcing us to use DHB as a starter to prove he was right to draft him so highly.

  7. RaiderLen Says:

    Blandafan Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    I feel like someone is forcing us to use DHB as a starter to prove he was right to draft him so highly.
    ——————
    Really!?

    Who would that someone be?

    It’s rumored that it’s AL.

    What are your thoughts?

  8. J Hill Says:

    Ok, I missed that 666.

    Good observation. I didn’t notice it until now while rewatching the game.

  9. KoolKell Says:

    “Hagan was Oakland’s most productive receiver during its four exhibition games. Yet, Jackson felt as if the Raiders had a better chance to win with Hagan on the bench.”
    ——————————————-
    And Al Davis will never publicly take responsibility for the decision. He’ll put it all on HueJax, until the overhead projector comes out. So slimy.

  10. MistaBrown Says:

    BFD

    What else is JC supposed to say?

  11. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, have you gotten over the win yet ? Ask your wife to make you an ensure cocktail to ease the pain you old tool bag.

  12. RaiderLen Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    Ok, I missed that 666.

    Good observation. I didn’t notice it until now while rewatching the game.
    ——————————–
    DHB in space, on the move, can be a beast.

    He’s big, fast and strong. All of those measures matter in spite of what some would think,

  13. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, Trailer smelling bad today?

  14. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s weird how so many people here are so vehemently AGAINST Derek Hagan. I mean, what did he ever do to hurt the team, other than play his ass off and look about as good as he could have in the preseason?

    It’s just, “he sucks”, “he’s injury prone”, “he’s a retread”, “he’ll be lucky if he gets one snap”.

    Good grief.

    What gives?

  15. KoolKell Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    It’s weird how so many people here are so vehemently AGAINST Derek Hagan. I mean, what did he ever do to hurt the team, other than play his ass off and look about as good as he could have in the preseason?

    It’s just, “he sucks”, “he’s injury prone”, “he’s a retread”, “he’ll be lucky if he gets one snap”.

    Good grief.

    What gives?
    —————————————
    The Bootlickers are trying to cover for Davis, you know the deal.

  16. beach Says:

    Hagan better be playing if Jacoby Ford is out. I’m a Hagan fan.

  17. inonewordraider Says:

    Buff will give DHB a lot of attention in the pass game cue Moore and Schilens. Pick your poison

  18. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Hagan better be playing if Jacoby Ford is out. I’m a Hagan fan.”

    If Ford is out they will insert Chaz.

  19. RaiderLen Says:

    I like Hagan

    I’d run Him out there.

    I’d also add that I like Moore, Chaz, Ford, and DHB.

  20. inonewordraider Says:

    If Al made Hue start DHB it was a smart decision because now teams will have to worry about him Schilens Moore Murphy Hagan….

  21. John Tweedy Says:

    I wonder if Jano is on the same stuff as Barry Bonds to increase his “leg speed”?

  22. J Hill Says:

    It’s weird how so many people here are so vehemently AGAINST Derek Hagan.

    —————————————————–

    You can’t be serious.

    We’re just asking for the logic that supports Hagan leap frogging Chaz, Moore, and DHB on the depth chart.

    One good preseason game?

    I think a better argument would be why was Hagan inactive instead of Nick Miller. But of course that doesn’t fit in yours or Kell’s Davis propoganda, so I can see why you didn’t go in that direction.

  23. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Al Davis is the oldest GM in the league. He’s also the most clueless.
    ===================

    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?

  24. J Hill Says:

    If Ford is out, naturally Hagan will be active for the game.

    We usually carry 5 WRs.

  25. MistaBrown Says:

    KK you ar elike a broken record with the trailer park blast get some new material a new life a new wife, you might feel better when you wake up in the mornin
    ;)

  26. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    It’s weird how so many people here are so vehemently AGAINST Derek Hagan.

    —————————————————–

    You can’t be serious.

    We’re just asking for the logic that supports Hagan leap frogging Chaz, Moore, and DHB on the depth chart.

    One good preseason game?
    ———————————————
    “Hagan was Oakland’s most productive receiver during its four exhibition games. Yet, Jackson felt as if the Raiders had a better chance to win with Hagan on the bench.”

    You can read, can’t ya? You can’t be that stupid & naive.

  27. Master Beeecham Says:

    Krappy when are you going to post one of your informative links on the blog?

    You know, the kind that are usually about politics, that prove that you’re the King of the Trolls.

    Step it up, old goat.

  28. J Hill Says:

    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?

    —————————————————-

    Routt, Bush, Branch, Groves, HAGAN, , Kelly, Taiwan Jones, Pryor, Huff, Wiley, Chuck B, Wauffle …

  29. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    # Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Al Davis is the oldest GM in the league. He’s also the most clueless.
    ===================

    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?
    —————————-
    Mistic,

    Thanks for picking the ball up and running with it.

    I didn’t feel like it.

  30. RaiderLen Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?

    —————————————————-

    Routt, Bush, Branch, Groves, HAGAN, , Kelly, Taiwan Jones, Pryor, Huff, Wiley, Chuck B, Wauffle …
    —————————
    This too.

  31. HueKnows Says:

    Think DMC has some neck pains?

  32. RaiderLen Says:

    HueKnows Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    Think DMC has some neck pains?
    ———————————

    Wouldn’t be surprised given he almost had his head twisted off! Ha!

  33. J Hill Says:

    “Hagan was Oakland’s most productive receiver during its four exhibition games. Yet, Jackson felt as if the Raiders had a better chance to win with Hagan on the bench.”

    You can read, can’t ya? You can’t be that stupid & naive.

    ——————————————————

    I don’t even know why I bother with you sometimes. You have to be the most ridiculous “old fella” I’ve ever encountered.

    Are you really putting up the “production” of a back up versus the starters from preseason?

    Don’t guys like Hagan play damn near 3 or 4 times as much as the starters? Didn’t Hagan have over 100 yds in ONE PRESEASON game? I don’t recall him having more that ONE game in the exhibition season that would warrant your babble to have him active over DHB or Chaz.

    Goodness gracious mayne.

    Wake the phhuuggghhh up!

  34. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    SupaViallain theory CONFIRMED!!!!

    DHB is the epitome of what it means to be a raider, just as JC is. guys that heve been discounted and disrespected, reday to prove evryone wrong. Might have been ugly at first but he is about to explode on to the seen.

    the confidence that JC is showing in him was evident in the pre season when he threw it deep to the back shoulder and he expected DHb to go up and get the ball. this trust has given DHB a major boost and he is thriving. the confidence the coaching staff has in him and the support from uncle al has this kid sky high. he deserves it he goes about tit the right way.

    he is still just a kid and hasnt even reached his physical prime. just imagine when this kid is 25, 26,27 and his game has even more polish than he is showing now. It is going to be a night mare for defenders every where.

    Thanks Uncle Al for your vision, and patience

  35. beach Says:

    McFadden better be OK. Maybe that’s why Shaugnessy decked Orton 3 seconds after the pass.

  36. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    I think a better argument would be why was Hagan inactive instead of Nick Miller. But of course that doesn’t fit in yours or Kell’s Davis propoganda, so I can see why you didn’t go in that direction.

    ————————————-

    That’s more of my position. I’m ok with our wrs 1-4 (DHB, Chaz, Ford, Moore) but Miller just chaps my a$$. He brings nothing to the table. He let that punt drop that got us pinned inside the 5. Yeah he flashed a little bit last year, but what have you done for me lately??? Apparently Coach Davis wants him, so we’ll have to deal with him, but I’d much rather have D. Moore or Taiwan on PR duty & Hagan around for depth at the very least ahead or lil Nicky. Dah well…

  37. John Tweedy Says:

    HueKnows Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    Think DMC has some neck pains?

    Yes, I’d say so. DMC don’t need much on field practice. As y’all saw on Monday with no pre-season action.

  38. RaiderLen Says:

    @Mistic 34

    Anyone with the physical gifts and WORK ETHIC demonstrated by DHB gets my attention, respect, and patience.

    Year 3 is an important year.

    He’s beginning to reap the benefits of the work.

  39. Twocents Says:

    “It’s really identical to hitting a golf ball.”

    I wonder if I used a driver, how far would it go?

  40. KoolKell Says:

    4 basket catches for 44 yds, WOW, helluva breakout game. Oh my gawd, awesome. ;-)

  41. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    4 basket catches for 44 yds, WOW, helluva breakout game. Oh my gawd, awesome. ;-)
    =======================

    two huge catches for first downs in traffic, one that sealed the game. It truly is awesome considering that we havnt had a clutch or real go to guy her for years.

  42. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    4 basket catches for 44 yds, WOW, helluva breakout game. Oh my gawd, awesome.
    —————————-
    Bitter Beer Face Kell,

    How many did he drop when His number was called?

    He made all of the plays.

    Sucks for you that he was productive.

  43. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Apparently Coach Davis wants him, so we’ll have to deal with him, but I’d much rather have D. Moore or Taiwan on PR duty & Hagan around for depth at the very least ahead or lil Nicky. Dah well…
    ================

    Miller si a scrub but he is the only wr we have with nfl experience as a punt returner, this is why he is still on the team. has nothing to do with Al

  44. MistaBrown Says:

    Guys KK the clown is still trying to get over the win. Let him pout and troll with his twin bro MR so he gets it out of his system

  45. beach Says:

    It would have been 143 yards receiving if JC threw the ball in bounds on the bomb.

  46. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, wassa matter, food stamps didn’t come in?

  47. Master Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, remind us again how much you hate name calling.

    Just for laughs.

  48. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    I’d be willing to go in on a fund to get Billy The Exterminator out to yur trailer, Whaddya think?

  49. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Has #89 been FIRED yet?…

  50. BayAreaRaider Says:

    To see DHB start the game was painful, it still shows Al Davis controls this team. I continue to hear how hard DHB works in practice. Can some please tell me then why does he continue to catch balls with his body? There is no way I believe he started playing this game at the age of 14. SOMEONE PLEASE TEACH HIM TO CATCH THE BALL WITH HIS HANDS!!! If anyone questions the importance of this just remember his play a few years back against the Chiefs.

  51. BayAreaRaider Says:

    Why Hagan was not activated for this game is beyond me due to his great performance in the preseason…this makes Hue Jackson look silly for his statement about using the players who performed the best in practice and games.

  52. Goldie7 Says:

    I am not a fan of DHB, but I am pleased with his play on Monday. If he can continue to grab four balls a game than I will warm to the idea of him being a starter. He got his team two huge first downs. I did not know he had that in him.

    ——————————————————-
    lol Hey 89052RAIDER,either you are a DHB fan or you’re not a fan. Why warm up(later on) to the idea of the young WR being a starter through your terms? If I always remembered it takes at least 3 years to develop into a consistent solid WR in the NFL. DHB is on the proper path of succeeding at his position. Rally, embrace and stay positive about our players. Our Raiders need all the positive vibes they can receive from the Raiders fans. ESPN did enough negative talk for the whole world to see about DHB. Peace to ya.

  53. beach Says:

    I’m not going to bet DHB is ready for the Pro Bowl, but let up, guys! The boy caught every pass thrown to him Monday Night!

  54. HueKnows Says:

    Don’t forget that DHB would have gotten his TD if Fox didn’t get that TO in.

  55. Thec07 Says:

    Inonewordraider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    nonewordraider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    John Tweedy Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    Ok inoneword.

    if you aint with us your against us. F ZMiller F Gallery F Woodson. Nnamdi maybe a free pass cuz word is he didn’t get an offer but ahhh….

    +++++

    for that matter Fck all players not wearing silve and black….

    I’m with you Thec I’m a SC fan and a Mexican/American but if anyones wearing a Sanchez jersey for the home opener, CODE BLACK!

    +++++++++

    That’s how it should be for ALL NATION Brethren….

    CODE BLACK

  56. Master Beeecham Says:

    Krappy, be honest with your blog pals – when’s the last time you actually set foot in Kane & Associates?

  57. beach Says:

    I was shocked too, when I heard before the game that Hagan was out. I guess Hue wanted a little experience from Miller returning punts in Denver. The whole offense had the jitters in the first quarter. Let’s hope Moore has a big game in Buffalo.

  58. Chris in NY Says:

    I think the most impressive kick I’ve ever seen from Janikowski — even more than the 63-yarder in Denver and the 61-yarder on a cold December day Cleveland — is the 64-yarder he clanged (halfway up) off the upright against the Texans a few years ago. That baby had enough distance for at least 70 yards and he missed it wide by maybe 3 inches.

  59. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    56.Master Beeecham Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    Krappy, be honest with your blog pals – when’s the last time you actually set foot in Kane & Associates?

    ==========================================
    I was only reading the blog while having a cup of java when I read “YOUR BLOG PALS.” I spit it up all over my shirt. LMFAO

  60. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Good thing the coffee was only warm.

  61. Misses Beeecham Says:

    U betta calll the clinic u fat assed terd, they said yur testss cum back an it aint good, u prolly been slurpin some skank jonson down at the sleeze hole you terd.

  62. Chris in NY Says:

    Here’s the clip of that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuzrVYgRhAI

  63. Sullivan44 Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?

    ………..

    Yes. A qualified GM would have us better players at every one of these positions, sans maybe Seymour and Dmac.

  64. M Lonetree Says:

    89025 says “I’m not a dhb fan, but…”

    for crissake he’s a Raider! you shouldn’t care more or less if he’s Cliff Branch or Alvis Whitted! dude’s a Raider…to say “I’m not a fan…” is some ludicrous and shallow instant gratification age crap.

    why on Earth is Mike Kelly still here? thought KK would’ve considered that wearing a tripe necklace of hatred for AD lacked all dignity. guess ignorance wins out.

  65. SilverLining20 Says:

    This really sums up what its been like to be a Raider fan in recent years. Our standards have become so low. We’ve adapted to such mediocre and low level of play that our starting receiver has a breakout game with 44yds and two big first downs.

    There are 4 qtrs in the game, I couldn’t care less who comes out at what time but Hagan earned his spot and playing time. We have become so blindly obsessed with doing things strictly the Raider way that the Raider way has become a joke to outsiders. We have special talent on this team, a win is a win but if we were smarter we could become dominant again.

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  67. wasbanned Says:

    If Hagan isn’t active this week then my opinion of Coach Jackson is he is full of sh!t.

    I also was very underwhelmed by the offensive gameplan against Denver.

    Dude’s about 1 game from p!ssing me off.

  68. Master Beeecham Says:

    Dudes, I just got the SWEETEST international bj in the bushes near the Ritz pool from this super hammered Swedish MILF.

    Seriously, this middle aged babe brought the thunder.

    Met her while I was warming up for my dj set, she went nuts for my Devo / Kenny Loggins mash up. Saw like 4 bikini tops come off went I mixed Freedom of Choice smoothly into Footloose extended cut.

    She’s supposed to come back later on with a bottle of Barenjager and some Krispy Cremes. Thinking of taking this in-charge-mama out on the Party Boat to get fizzle.

    You know what they say -

    When the Party Boat’s a rockin’, you know it’s your hero Beeecham hip hoppin’

  69. the boss Says:

    SilverLining20 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    This really sums up what its been like to be a Raider fan in recent years. Our standards have become so low. We’ve adapted to such mediocre and low level of play that our starting receiver has a breakout game with 44yds and two big first downs.

    —————————-

    If DHB was a toddler and took his first baby steps I could see all the cheer and hooplah. But he is a pro in the NFL pullin in millions. Give me a f—- break.

  70. PA-RAIDER Says:

    February 2012

    Hue Jackson – Coach of the Year

    Al Davis – Man of The Year

  71. M Lonetree Says:

    my gawd, you fans? are just bickering old biddies.
    who the flock cares who’s activated or not?
    dhb was the only legitimate receiver Oaktown had the other night.
    ford sukked.
    chaz was helmetless
    Nicky should do a lemming thing.
    Denarius wasn’t involved.
    result?
    Raider win.
    the game plan was to run the ball down their throats or didn’t you notice the timbre of the play-calling?

  72. Yamacan Man Says:

    70.PA-RAIDER Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    February 2012

    Hue Jackson – Coach of the Year

    Al Davis – Man of The Year

    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Sweet :grin:

  73. DeuceDeuce Says:

    People saying DHB only caught 4 balls..

    There were only 13 completed passes.

    He accounted for roughly 33% of the passes and 40% of the passing yards.

    Didnt drop anything thrown his way.

  74. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17

  75. RaiderSpano Says:

    Wow.
    You’re easily impressed, aren’t you?
    Hey, I hope he does well, like everyone.
    To crown him now is little premature.
    DHB was dead last in all categories, for starting wr’s, both of the previous two years.
    He caught 4 passes. Not 10, not 8. 4
    Isn’t that a below average day for most starting wr’s?
    ——————-
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    SupaViallain theory CONFIRMED!!!!

    DHB is the epitome of what it means to be a raider, just as JC is. guys that heve been discounted and disrespected, reday to prove evryone wrong. Might have been ugly at first but he is about to explode on to the seen.

    the confidence that JC is showing in him was evident in the pre season when he threw it deep to the back shoulder and he expected DHb to go up and get the ball. this trust has given DHB a major boost and he is thriving. the confidence the coaching staff has in him and the support from uncle al has this kid sky high. he deserves it he goes about tit the right way.

    he is still just a kid and hasnt even reached his physical prime. just imagine when this kid is 25, 26,27 and his game has even more polish than he is showing now. It is going to be a night mare for defenders every where.

    Thanks Uncle Al for your vision, and patience

  76. Just Fire Baby Says:

    True that most receivers peak at their 3rd year, and than that is what you can roughly expect from them top end.

    DHB had a nice game. But I would like to see 5-6 TD’s and close to 1,000 yards this season if there is any hope for him being a top-tier starter.

    4 catches for 44 yards and botching a nice sideline pass is only progress in the world of DHB.

  77. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Did anyone hit last weeks score on the nose?

    Raiders 27-17 over the Bills

  78. RaiderSpano Says:

    Master Beeecham Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Dudes, I just got the SWEETEST international bj in the bushes near the Ritz pool from this super hammered Swedish MILF.

    Seriously, this middle aged babe brought the thunder.
    ==================
    Of course she did.

    Because that’s just what ppl do.
    Get a gummiebear, and rush to a blog to talk about it.

    It’s a fact those that talk about getting it, aren’t getting it.
    Those who talk bout the big house? Live in squalor.

    Thought you should know.

  79. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Put me down for the same score as last week:

    Raiders 23 Buffalo 20

  80. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    Did anyone hit last weeks score on the nose?

    Raiders 27-17 over the Bills

    ————————————-
    Yeah…its listed at 74

  81. KoolKell Says:

    PEAK in their 3rd year????? Yikes! I hope he aint close to “peaking” lol.

  82. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I still don’t see how people blame Soup for the sideline pass.

    That was 50/50 at best for the blame.

    Hell DHB caught it, and almost had his feet in, even though he made no effort to toe-tap the sideline.

    Elite WR’s make that catch in-bounds 75% of the time.

  83. J Hill Says:

    4 catches for 44 yards and botching a nice sideline pass is only progress in the world of DHB.

    —————————————————-

    And a “pancake” block by a RG 2 yds in our OWN backfield is considered a pro bowl play in the world of JFB.

    I notice you failed to mention the Bush run where that same RG GOT pancaked and caused a 2 yd loss, lol.

  84. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    78.RaiderSpano Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
    Master Beeecham Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Dudes, I just got the SWEETEST international bj in the bushes near the Ritz pool from this super hammered Swedish MILF.

    Seriously, this middle aged babe brought the thunder.
    ==================
    Of course she did.

    Because that’s just what ppl do.
    Get a gummiebear, and rush to a blog to talk about it.

    It’s a fact those that talk about getting it, aren’t getting it.
    Those who talk bout the big house? Live in squalor.

    Thought you should know.

    ================================================
    Does he have no shame. Bringing his blow-up doll and vaseline to a gig. lol

  85. Just Fire Baby Says:

    PEAK in their 3rd year????? Yikes! I hope he aint close to “peaking” lol.

    ******************************

    Cliff Branch’s best year was his 3rd year.

    Other elite current WR’s (Bowe, Roddy White, etc.) pretty much peak in the 3rd year, and carry that type of production throughout their prime years.

    That’s what I’m saying. If DHB continues on and has a 60 catch, 800 yard 3 TD season, that will be about as good as it gets.

    Which over the past few years, I will gladly take.

  86. M Lonetree Says:

    JustFB,
    the fact that dhb was two strides behind the db and had to slow down to catch a fade on the sideline had nothing to do with it?
    poorly thrown TD pass was what it was.

  87. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And a “pancake” block by a RG 2 yds in our OWN backfield is considered a pro bowl play in the world of JFB.

    *******************************

    The DT was face-first in dirt when the RB was running by him no??

  88. HueKnows Says:

    31-17 RAIDERS!!!

  89. RaiderSpano Says:

    Guess it could be worse.
    He could have brought his Tammie Faye blow up doll.

  90. Just Fire Baby Says:

    the fact that dhb was two strides behind the db and had to slow down to catch a fade on the sideline had nothing to do with it?

    ******************************

    It certainly had something to do with it, but let’s face it, if he makes that catch with his feet in bounds, it wasn’t going to be a top 10 Sportcenter highlight or anything.

    It would have been lucky to make the highlight clips for the game.

    It would only be a spectacular catch because who was catching it.

  91. RaiderSpano Says:

    Good thing bout playin a rebuilding sad team like Broncs is you get an all important W to start off the year.
    Bad thing is some forget that, and start predicting silly things like massive success down the line, for everyone.
    By game 4 we’ll know.
    guess I would rather be reserved, than disappointed down the line

  92. KoolKell Says:

    He look’s as raw as he ever has to me. I hear ya, I just don’t see DHB catching 60 Balls, even if they de-activate every other WR on the team.

  93. GoodOle00 Says:

    Buffalo preview. Trench Warfare

    Awesome…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_2011

  94. mikedlopes Says:

    38 – 10 Raiders

    DHB runs so fast the friction from his shoes ignites the whole buffalo team on fire

  95. Master Beeecham Says:

    Bros, just because you have no idea how to party serious and are worried about your undersized johnsons, don’t split your pantyhose crying to me.

    This ain’t no Sally Jess Raphael, so dry them tears. Got it? Excellent!

    Anyway, Krappy, do you think your bosses at Kane (and I’m guessing that pretty much includes everyone working there) are happy you’re been goofing off all afternoon on the blog?

    DHB will be fine, he’s got millions in the bank.

    You’re a broke old fool who wear Pampers to breakfast. Crying in the blog isn’t going to pay for your lunches at Arby’s, know what I’m saying?

    HOLLA BACK BIG MACK ATTACK

  96. M Lonetree Says:

    own the line of scrimmage.
    game 1. done. win.
    own the line of scrimmage.
    game 2. the buffies don’t have the personnel.

  97. alex7 Says:

    JHill,

    despite being stuck behind Mario Manningham, Hakeem Nicks, and Steve Smith in NY, and starting only 4 games, Hagan put up comparable numbers to DHB.

    His biggest preseason game was the important week 3 game against starters.

    He and Moore outshined all WRs during all of preseason according to the writers who were there.

    He leads our team in career catches and is only 26 years old.

    Why is it so odd to think he might be our best receiver? Because Ford had 2 good games last year? Because Chaz… because Murphy has…

  98. SilverLining20 Says:

    If I have a meal made up of crap, garbage and urine, I’m not going to start claiming that garbage is pretty tasty because it was the best out of a bad meal.

    I’m gonna look for something better to eat..or add a little salt.

    Is that a stretch?

  99. MikieG Says:

    It is plain to see, Jason Campbell is hindering the development of DHB…I have never been a huge DHB guy, and I might have contemplated base jumping off King Kong’s nutsack but from what I just saw 2 days ago, I am convinced that DHB is being stunted by JC’s lack of fortitude..
    Darrius REALLY wants the ball. The coaches want to get him the ball yet JC is taking the easy way out every posession…DHB wants to feel that pigskin whistling into his hands 60 yards downfield.
    He is NOT scared of getting his number called anymore..He chomping at the bit to show his talent…He see’s Jacoby over there, and is f’n ready to get it on too..Some of you guys on here know that feeling…The one where you are no longer are doing it for yourself, but for the respect of your teammates..Its what makes Seymour, Seymour….people listen to him mot only because he has a ring..but because they see O-linemen getting thrown like a tomahawk out of the corner of their eye, whilst engaged in their own battle..DHB is ready for the chance to catch the ball in ABSURD circumstances..he hasn’t been given the chance by his Q..
    Throw it to the man JC!!!!!!!!!!!

  100. M Lonetree Says:

    SilverLining,

    sorry, but that sounds like you’ve been looking into some dark corner of your own.

  101. Carl Weathers Says:

    Does Cornell Green still play RT in Buffalo? I friggin hope so!

  102. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17

  103. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK has a point DHB is not out of the woods yet.

    He played great Monday night did all that was asked of him blocking well, RAC for a 1st down, I have been comparing him to Brandon Marshall he looked strong running the ball.

    He needs to prove to us that he is “the guy” he needs 3 or 4 games of 100 yards 10 catches or more. He needs to become our Larry Fitzgerald or our guy we can go to in the clutch because that is how he is getting paid.

    Has he shown improvement…yes but he still has a ways to go before he starts getting love in here and ESPN, NFLN etc.

  104. MikieG Says:

    Im sorry, I meant Base Jumping off of King Kong’s Nutsack because of where DHB was drafted…:not because of I enjoy some 5:10 climbing and then launching myself from KK’s heavy bag…
    My point is that the DHB pick was just as absurd, and its even worse now that the gamble has the potential to pay off, Captain Checkdown won’t feed him the rock, despite what this article tries to say.

  105. alex7 Says:

    I have to correct this every couple of months:

    ROOKIE seasons:

    Bowe 70 ca. 995 yards 5 TDs

    Desean Jackson 912 yards.
    Hakeem Nicks 790.
    Kenny Britt 701.
    Mike Williams (Pittsburgh) 964.
    Colston went over 1,000.
    Percy Harvin 790.
    Steve Smith 872.

    IF YOU’RE GONNA BLOW UP the 3rd year, you probably did something worthwhile the first year.

  106. alex7 Says:

    Dis here be strong:

    ——————–

    MikieG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    It is plain to see, Jason Campbell is hindering the development of DHB…I have never been a huge DHB guy,

    DHB is being stunted by JC’s lack of fortitude..

    Darrius REALLY wants the ball. The coaches want to get him the ball yet JC is taking the easy way out every posession…DHB wants to feel that pigskin whistling into his hands 60 yards downfield.
    He is NOT scared of getting his number called anymore..He chomping at the bit to show his talent…He see’s Jacoby over there, and is f’n ready to get it on too..Some of you guys on here know that feeling…The one where you are no longer are doing it for yourself, but for the respect of your teammates..Its what makes Seymour, Seymour….people listen to him mot only because he has a ring..but because they see O-linemen getting thrown like a tomahawk out of the corner of their eye, whilst engaged in their own battle..DHB is ready for the chance to catch the ball in ABSURD circumstances..he hasn’t been given the chance by his Q..
    Throw it to the man JC!!!!!!!!!!!

  107. SilverLining20 Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    SilverLining

    sorry, but that sounds like you’ve been looking into some dark corner of your own.

    *************
    LOL. Nobody knows my pain.

  108. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “It is plain to see, Jason Campbell is hindering the development of DHB”

    I think a lot of us feel that way.

    Raiders 33 The Bills 13

  109. GoodOle00 Says:

    “Oakland may actually be in a position to do something against Denver’s D they haven’t been able to do consistently do against anyone in the last 7 years.

    Move the chains through the air.”

    ========

    “From what we’ve seen of Bey this year, he still has trouble tracking the ball on deep throws, which would seem to negate his best feature, beating defenders deep with his blazing speed, but aside from blocking, Bey’s extremely hard work at his craft has paid off big in another area.

    Quick, short passes.

    Bey’s catch, turn and run capabilities could become dynamic this year.

    It will be interesting to see if Mr. Davis’ deep threat 7th overall draft pick actually turns into a valuable and potentially dangerous possession Receiver.”

    09-09-11 Raider O’s Dangerous New Dimension

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  110. MikieG Says:

    DHB is saying, Ummmmm, I fu#^$ing got it now, I understand this game, I am essentially a junior at this level, it makes sense now, I have always had to work like this to be my best..I am here now, can I get some touches please??
    If this Ja6o(ff would throw me the ball instead of checking it down to the 3rd receiver or throwing it 40 yards out of bounds we could get this engine started.

  111. KoolKell Says:

    #105

    Good post!

  112. al d. davis Says:

    Ma po lil Darrius, I caint say why, no talent wideout, just love the guy, I’ll play him cause I can, sit Hagan down, iffen you don’t like it, screw ya, your just a fan….

    Now ya know it’s stanky AL, crazy as a loon, I sat Marcus Allen just to watch him squirm, I’ll give ya the middle finger, your a bunch a idiots, I the genius, low life nuts…..

    Doesn’t much matter I did nothing for past 28 yrs, I’ll play DHB as much as I want, I hate my fans who make me rich, just get to work n dig me a ditch…..

    Suckers, morons, raider nation(buncha scrum), eat my ca-ca, I could care less, I’ll use ya and abuse ya, I must confess….

    I stank AL…..

    Just Die Baby ! I out

  113. JLofty Says:

    Carl, I believe Erik Pears yes, a guy we cut like 4 times is the Bills RT.

  114. CanuckRaider Says:

    Raiders 24 – Bills 13

  115. raiderzmaverick Says:

    As I said many times, DHB is much improved in the short to intermediate passing game and that’s where he should be used for now. His pass catching ability and ability to adjust to throws (especially long throws) isn’t great yet, but each year he is getting better.

    Campbell will be fine if we get 150 yards or more running the ball. On the games where we fall behind quick it might be a different story. I still don’t trust his throws over 25 yards.

  116. Sullivan44 Says:

    Wow. Sarah P@lin and Glen Rice, huh?

    Now we know why she wanted to visit Ob@ma right after he won. It’s all good, baby.

  117. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # BayAreaRaider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    To see DHB start the game was painful, it still shows Al Davis controls this team. I continue to hear how hard DHB works in practice. Can some please tell me then why does he continue to catch balls with his body? There is no way I believe he started playing this game at the age of 14. SOMEONE PLEASE TEACH HIM TO CATCH THE BALL WITH HIS HANDS!!! If anyone questions the importance of this just remember his play a few years back against the Chiefs.
    =================

    unfounded over reaction and conspiracy theory. DHB by virtue of talent , on the field demonstration and in game production has earned his starting spot on this squad..end of story

  118. CanuckRaider Says:

    Raiders fans 1,000,000,000 – MR 0

  119. JLofty Says:

    Not really understanding why DHB garners so much animosity. The kid didn’t draft hisself. He’s come in and played hard, works hard to improve, doesn’t smoke crack and hit the PurpleDrank, beat on women, etc.
    He looked pretty good on Monday night. Not earth shattering but good. If I was dumb enough to run an end around on the first play of that game I mighta had DHB do it since he’s actually played in the 9-10 months before the first snap.
    Does he still need to improve on the over the shoulder types catches – yes! Is he otherwise becoming a decent WR for us – yes!
    Soup doesn’t even look his way when it’s 1on1 coverage with no safety help. Like the time he was uncovered. JC never even looked over there. JC spends a lot (too much?) of time figuring out blitzes and such. I know that’s important but the dude was UNCOVERED, snap the damn ball. I hope Soup gets better and soon or we are going to be mediocre and battling in games we should be BLOWING the opponent out in….(think 9Ball game last year or Mon night).
    Boss will help though. Myers is alright but that forced throw by JC in the end zone would have had a chance with the 6′-6″ Boss on the end of it…

  120. MikieG Says:

    JC is about to unleash Hell after watching all the open receivers from Monday on film for the past few days..

    JC wants it more than we do, and I am convinced that DHB wants it more than anyone..

  121. al d. davis Says:

    Now…..have a slug named JC….second cummin of Plunk, there for all to see…..reason I keep him cause he’ll throw to DHB, while the better brilliant receiver Hagan, is up a tree…

    the fans and nation can shove it too, caint be bothered by a bunch of pretending fools, I the genius, caint tell me what to do, I’ll stick it too ya, lose if I want to….

  122. Carl Weathers Says:

    Raiders 51-3 Bills

  123. priesttj Says:

    Stop worrying about DHB let DHB do that, he’s the only accountable NOT YOU. If he does it, he does it, if he doesn’t he doesn’t………………..period

  124. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Raiders 27 Bills 17

  125. TerrapinRaider Says:

    WTF MAN!

    I’m tired of reading this Hagan sht! The damn guy is not no freakin’ Jerry Rice, Tim Brown et al. He was a journeyman WR, a training camp superstar. We have seen many of those throughout the years. Come and go.

    So why the fk are we trying to CREATE a controversy here Steve! I don’t give a ratz azz about Hagan! If coach thinks the other players are more valuable to the game being played then so be it!

    Goddamn!

    Hagan needs to shut his dayum mouth. This sht is like Teabow yapping off in the press and he isn’t worth a damn. He needs to shut it before he gets CUT! Then lets see where you land. Not collecting a check.

  126. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I’ve never seen a journeyman WR get so much damn attention like we will never win without him. HELLO! We just won the damn game WITHOUT HIM!

  127. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. Why do you hate Hagan so much, Terrapin? Thus far he’s done ZILCH to prevent this team from winning, and I would say has only helped thus far, considering he’s shown us nothing but good. Give this guy a chance. DHB can still be Al’s scholarship hero with Hagan playing. More talented players, the better. Some thing about just winning, baby? remember that?

  128. MiamiBornRaider86 Says:

    is it me, or did Corkran forget to mention S. Routt’s excellent game as far as covering went??

    i for one had to swallow my words, because i doubted his cover skills and was the first to just call him a sprinter, but he has not failed to impress.. he’s looking Asomugha-esque out there, Plus R. Woodson at the helm, we are going to be A-Okay!

    Whats up with Hagans? he needs to play! i think HueJack and Al Davis are trynna light the fire under DHB so they are making it seem like DHB is their go-to guy..

  129. priesttj Says:

    Myers is garbage he has trouble making plays, get the other guys in there and Camp will look a lot better.

  130. MikieG Says:

    My point is that its not DHB’s fault anymore…its Jason Campbell’s…Throw the kid the goddazzled ball, he is ready..The man didn’t drop a pass on Monday night, and FOUGHT for those RAC yards..he even caught a HORRIBLY thrown ball by JC 6 feet out of bounds….
    Ask for more from him..Fine..but give him more while your at it..

  131. al d. davis Says:

    got me a lil dog, with a big bald head, ma cheerleader Hue, it’s all I said,

    if I say sit, he’ll sit indeed, if I say heel, he’ll run till he bleeds….

    if I say play DHB, Hue will do that too, he a little lap dog and a total fool…

    well…..screw ya nation, your maggots and theives, just am glad ya got some belief,

    so long as ya pumpin dollars into my stanky fist,
    you can to hell, and I won’t be pissed

  132. Sullivan44 Says:

    Cut Hagan then. This is America. He has a right to speak his mind. Just cut him. Let KC or SD pick him up. Or, utilize him. I know if I were GM of the Raiders what I would do. I’d downplay his criticism and get him into the lineup. I’d have the Lombardi on my mind.

  133. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Stop worrying about DHB let DHB do that, he’s the only accountable NOT YOU. If he does it, he does it, if he doesn’t he doesn’t………………..period
    =========================

    priestt,

    we know he is already doing it, people dont want to look foolish so they continue to hammer him. Film doesnt lie, and he put on a lead receiver performance for the world to see monday. he is only scratching the surface.

  134. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Question…if you put Brady in as our QB (or put our RBs, OLine & Receivers around him in NE) do you still think he’d make 350 yards per game?

  135. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s possible Hagan’s speaking out to get cut. If he remains silent, Al will let him collect dust and take precious time away from his career by benching him so he can’t threaten his scholarship players. His agent’s probably putting him up to this. And it’s a smart move. Why ride pine for the Raiders, just to make Al’s scholarship players look good, when you can be playing elsewhere?

  136. r8dercain Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    It’s weird how so many people here are so vehemently AGAINST Derek Hagan. I mean, what did he ever do to hurt the team, other than play his ass off and look about as good as he could have in the preseason?

    It’s just, “he sucks”, “he’s injury prone”, “he’s a retread”, “he’ll be lucky if he gets one snap”.

    Good grief.

    What gives?
    —————————————
    The Bootlickers are trying to cover for Davis, you know the deal.
    _______________
    you guys blow me away. Everyone here wondered y he was inactive
    I for one sure did. Yes classic Davis move I’m not afraid to say it

    but guess what. I still want them to win on Sunday
    can’t say the same for u two. I guess I’m supposed to call u “fans”

  137. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # MikieG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    My point is that its not DHB’s fault anymore…its Jason Campbell’s…Throw the kid the goddazzled ball, he is ready..The man didn’t drop a pass on Monday night, and FOUGHT for those RAC yards..he even caught a HORRIBLY thrown ball by JC 6 feet out of bounds….
    Ask for more from him..Fine..but give him more while your at it..
    ===================

    pay closer attention,

    Jc has looked him up all pre season, and clearly looked for him on monday. in fact he was targeted more than any other receiver by JC.

  138. alex7 Says:

    Come now, terrapin.

    Journeyman WR is better than what we’ve had here the last few years, and possibly better than most of the guys we have right now.

    That’s why.

    He runs better routes than most of our guys, which leads to more separation, and he actually catches the ball. That’s a better combination than most of the guys we have here.

    Simple.

  139. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hagan uses his hands to catch the ball… novel concept… I wish I’d thought of that…

  140. alex7 Says:

    Being stuck behind Manningham, Nicks, and Steve Smith doesn’t mean he can’t be better than Murphy, Chaz, Ford, and possibly even DHB.

    NONE of our guys would even be COMPETING with that NYG wr rotation the last 2 years.

  141. KoolKell Says:

    R8dercain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    but guess what. I still want them to win on Sunday
    can’t say the same for u two. I guess I’m supposed to call u “fans”
    ———————————————
    I do too. Been a fan since before you were born probably. No need to get up on your high horse, you’re not the only fan here.

  142. TerrapinRaider Says:

    i DON’T hate the damn guy. This sht is annoying. Why are we even talking about him?!?!?!? The guy is/was irrelevant!

    Yet these writers AND you guys talk like we seriously need him in the game to win. Its ludicrious! The guy can help, sure, but don’t pretend he’s the end all and be all of our WR corp, without him we’re dead.

    Coach Jackson made the determination that HE doesn’t matter AS much to this team’s success. PERIOD!

  143. alex7 Says:

    lol DHB was “targeted more than any other receiver Monday”

    What other receivers were there? Ford and…

    (crickets chirping)

  144. r8dercain Says:

    KK
    I’m 41 yrs old bruh!
    An u?

  145. Sullivan44 Says:

    Terrapin, we’re talking about him because he showed promise in the preseason and isn’t playing. Why not play him? What do we lose by putting this guy into some plays?

  146. alex7 Says:

    When your top receiver goes for 4 catches and 44 yards, and has no credible success to fall back on,

    it’s ok to look at who else might help the passing game.

    Craaaaaaazy!

  147. Sullivan44 Says:

    Terrapin, the harsh criticism of Hagan is suspicious.

  148. Carl Weathers Says:

    Hagan has a right to be pissed. Huey said performance in preseason would equate to playing time.

    Miller should be shown the door, but I guess with Ford dinged we’re stuck with him fo now.

  149. Sullivan44 Says:

    I don’t know of any fans anywhere in the NFL who are so harsh on players who’ve done nothing wrong as Raider fans are. It’s weird.

  150. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    It’s possible Hagan’s speaking out to get cut. If he remains silent, Al will let him collect dust and take precious time away from his career by benching him so he can’t threaten his scholarship players. His agent’s probably putting him up to this. And it’s a smart move. Why ride pine for the Raiders, just to make Al’s scholarship players look good, when you can be playing elsewhere?

    **************************

    Thats just damn dumb. What journeyman WR you know will intentionally yap off to get cut??!!! He has been a fringe player so far is this league. He lucky to be on a roster. He’s lucky the Raiders gave him a shot! He wasn’t collecting a check. He was collecting DUST!

  151. KoolKell Says:

    59.

    DHB catches the ball like someone’s teenage daughter in the backyard. With his arms and stomach, eeewwwww.

    Who catches the ball like that in the NFL?

  152. al d. davis Says:

    fans n the nation exist to make me rich, I alzheimer AL so don’t give me the pitch,

    I’ll play DHB, even if he takes us to hell, Hagan suck pine till he turns to jell

  153. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Krappy, stop riding hagan’s knut sack you old retread poot butt.

    You post the source that proves AD is meddling or you have nothing. Just an old mans tiered theory.

  154. al d. davis Says:

    I alzheimer AL, I do as I please, play Hagan in the pre-season just as a tease,

    Now I’ll play darrius, dont care what ya think, just give me your money and please don’t blink

  155. inonewordraider Says:

    Malcom Floyd StatsRegular Season Receiving Stats
    SEASON TEAM GP REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LST
    2004 SD 4 3 49 16.3 27 1 2 0 0
    2006 SD 12 15 210 14.0 46 3 9 0 0
    2007 SD 6 7 97 13.9 25 0 4 0 0
    2008 SD 13 27 465 17.2 49 4 21 0 0
    2009 SD 16 45 776 17.2 53 1 36 0 0
    2010 SD 11 37 717 19.4 55 6 33 1 0

  156. Sullivan44 Says:

    Terrapin, based on what I saw out of Hagan in the preseason, I think several teams would pick him up. Why stay with the Raiders and ride the bench when he can play elsewhere? Knowing Al, he’s probably going to keep Hagan so that no division rival can pick him up, and also not play him because he doesn’t want him to threaten his scholarship player, DHB. If this is the case, Hagan had better do everything he can to get waived. Otherwise Al’s just going to let him rot on the sideline.

  157. TerrapinRaider Says:

    alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    Come now, terrapin.

    Journeyman WR is better than what we’ve had here the last few years, and possibly better than most of the guys we have right now.

    That’s why.

    He runs better routes than most of our guys, which leads to more separation, and he actually catches the ball. That’s a better combination than most of the guys we have here.

    Simple.

    ********************************

    HUE JUST TOLD YOU DIFFERENT!!! Damn, what can’t you guys understand? Hue just told you the other WRs are better (right now) by not activating him. Deal with it. Maybe thats different next week who knows.

    Better routes? WTF. I saw a DB run the route better than Hagan TWICE (or 3X) in the preseason man! Who you trying to kid?

  158. raiderzmaverick Says:

    You put our offensive team around Manning he’s still pass for 300+ per game. So…where do you rate Campbell? Which teams have better QBs (when healthy)?
    Indy, NE, SD, Houston, Phily, GB, Det, STL, Baltimore, AtL, Pitts, TB, NO for sure.
    Washington(Rex doing better than Campbell did there)? Arizona? Chi? NYG? NYJ? Denver? Tenn?

    For sure not Jax, Mia, SFO, Mimn, Sea, Cincy, clev. Carolina,

  159. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Carl Weathers Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Hagan has a right to be pissed. Huey said performance in preseason would equate to playing time.

    Miller should be shown the door, but I guess with Ford dinged we’re stuck with him fo now.
    ——————-
    finally someone can target the right person that Hagan needs to replace.
    Krappy and MR think its all a DHB/AD conspiracy.

  160. al d. davis Says:

    since when was this club a democracy, I’ve ruined better men, it’s a plutocracy,

    I used to better, now I am just stanky AL, if ya don’t like go straight to hell

  161. JLofty Says:

    How many other teams do you have the time to follow Sullivan? I mean like parked on a blog 18-7…

  162. Sullivan44 Says:

    Good luck Derek Hagan! GTFO out of Oakland, anyway you can! This is coming from a Raider fan. Al’s going to shelve you this year so that a division rival can’t claim you. He’s going to take away a year of your precious life. Don’t let him do it.

  163. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    Terrapin, based on what I saw out of Hagan in the preseason, I think several teams would pick him up. Why stay with the Raiders and ride the bench when he can play elsewhere? Knowing Al, he’s probably going to keep Hagan so that no division rival can pick him up, and also not play him because he doesn’t want him to threaten his scholarship player, DHB. If this is the case, Hagan had better do everything he can to get waived. Otherwise Al’s just going to let him rot on the sideline.

    ———————
    MR post a source to your drivel. Ya can’t can you. STFU.

  164. RaiderLen Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    lol DHB was “targeted more than any other receiver Monday”

    What other receivers were there? Ford and…

    (crickets chirping)
    —————————————
    Raiders ran more than just 2 wr sets…obviously.

    D Moore and Chaz were runnin around as 3 & 4.

    Bottom line is DHB made plays when called upon.

    No spin, just facts.

  165. al d. davis Says:

    listen now ya knucklheads, it’s stanky AL, give me your money, your love, your life…

    I am rich and famous because of you, if I want to ruin the franchise, I’ll do what I do

  166. alex7 Says:

    Terrapin,

    if you believe that Al has no say in Hagan not being considered one of our top 5 WRs, man I dont know what to tell you. Where have you been the last 20 years?

    Hue said the top guys would start.

    Moore and Hagan were the top guys according to EVERYONE that watched practices and games.

    So Hue lied? Al influenced? Either way, Hue was NOT honest.

  167. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Terrapin, we’re talking about him because he showed promise in the preseason and isn’t playing. Why not play him? What do we lose by putting this guy into some plays?

    ***********************

    Hue already made that decision for you. He sees these guys everyday in practice.

    What do we have to lose??? Thats just stupid. What if the guy runs the wrong route, db runs the route better than him (AGAIN!), yadayada. There are plenty of things to think about. And Hue already thought about it and didn’t activate him. Maybe he gets activated this week. I don’t know. Its Hues call on where this guy is in comparison to the others.

    I’m just tired of hearing it.

  168. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Good luck Derek Hagan! GTFO out of Oakland, anyway you can! This is coming from a Raider fan. Al’s going to shelve you this year so that a division rival can’t claim you. He’s going to take away a year of your precious life. Don’t let him do it.

    ——————
    Complete drivel.
    MR hows that face reading going. Any more truth bombs you can share?

  169. alex7 Says:

    Yes, Chaz and Moore were “running around.”

    That describes it perfectly.

    Chaz wasn’t 100% healthy.

    Moore was running sloppy routes.

    Neither got so much as a target in a close game.

    Yet they were considered worthy of being there, despite being out-performed in pre-season practices and games (moore was at least close).

  170. raiderzmaverick Says:

    The one thing Hagan has going for him is that he has a higher catch % than any of our other receivers (ie how many times targeted compared to how many catches).

    He probably will get some opportunities next week. Chaz(until he shows he is healthy and making plays) would be the oddan out. Then again maybe Ford won’t play due to injury and with Murphy out it would put Moore and Hagan into the lineup more.

  171. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Terrapin,

    if you believe that Al has no say in Hagan not being considered one of our top 5 WRs, man I dont know what to tell you. Where have you been the last 20 years?

    Hue said the top guys would start.

    Moore and Hagan were the top guys according to EVERYONE that watched practices and games.

    So Hue lied? Al influenced? Either way, Hue was NOT honest.
    ——————
    For a semi-intelligent poster you are letting emotions cloud your thinking.

    Prove it was AD held him out and not Hue or stfu?

  172. SilverLining20 Says:

    Brandon Lloyd was a journeyman. He had a pro bowl year last season.

    But anyway, I read that the Bills just had to sign a corner that they just cut for depth, bc of the loss of mcgee. I think this week will be a great opportunity for the Raiders to take a few more shots in the passing game while not limiting the run game either.

    I’m feeling pretty optimistic about the game. Hopefully we’ll get more points and less penalties.

  173. DutchRaider77 Says:

    This is coming from a Raider fan.

    _____________________________________________

    You mean the Raider fan who “know” his team was going to lose Monday night? Now is predicting the Raiders to loose once again…

  174. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hagan’s being Steve Beurlein’d. GTFO of Oakland anyway you can, Hagan. Blast Al to the press. Do whatever it takes. This man will ruin your career just to make one of his picks look good.

  175. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    As if anyone on the Raiders coaching staff gives a fug about who some nobody fan wants to see on the field of play.

  176. alex7 Says:

    Terrapin,

    so Hue, every beat writer at Alameda, and most every fan was lying when they ALL said Hagan was getting better separation, catching the ball better, and performing better than every other WR?

    Oh, ok.

  177. TerrapinRaider Says:

    You guys are pathetic. Complaining about everything. The guy caught every ball thrown in his direction including the deep one and you’re complaining about HOW he caught them? Unreal!

    You all are not Raider fans. You are fantasy football players. You are fans of players who you hope can pad your stats. GTFOH

  178. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dutch, the Raiders are going to lose Sunday. That’s just a prediction based on what I know.

    Bills have the hot hand.

    Bills destroyed the Chiefs.

    Raiders have a tendency to go soft in weeks following a big win.

    I was wrong Monday, but I won’t be wrong Sunday.

    Raiders will make a key mistake early on, probably a turnover deep in their territory, and be a step behind the remainder of the game. Bills will ice it late.

    Bills 28, Raiders 17.

  179. alex7 Says:

    Exactly Silver Lining.

    Like it’s some crazy reach to think another team’s backup, journeyman WR could possibly be better than most of our bottom-ranked pass-offense WRs.

  180. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Terrapin,

    so Hue, every beat writer at Alameda, and most every fan was lying when they ALL said Hagan was getting better separation, catching the ball better, and performing better than every other WR?

    Oh, ok.
    ————–
    LOL, fine. Yes they lied to your face. Happy? I didn’t think so.

  181. inonewordraider Says:

    1987 PHI 9 5 84 16.8 25 2 0 0 0
    1988 PHI 16 39 761 19.5 80 6 0 0 0
    1989 PHI 16 45 605 13.4 42 11 0 0 0
    1990 MIN 16 27 413 15.3 78 3 0 0 0
    1991 MIN 16 72 962 13.4 50 5 44 0 0
    1992 MIN 12 53 681 12.8 44 6 34 1 1
    1993 MIN 16 86 1,071 12.5 58 9 61 0 0
    1994 MIN 16 122 1,256 10.3 65 7 63 4 1
    1995 MIN 16 122 1,371 11.2 60 17 80 0

  182. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Please stop posting. You two are the stupidest bunch ever.

  183. inonewordraider Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    1987 PHI 9 5 84 16.8 25 2 0 0 0
    1988 PHI 16 39 761 19.5 80 6 0 0 0
    1989 PHI 16 45 605 13.4 42 11 0 0 0
    1990 MIN 16 27 413 15.3 78 3 0 0 0
    1991 MIN 16 72 962 13.4 50 5 44 0 0
    1992 MIN 12 53 681 12.8 44 6 34 1 1
    1993 MIN 16 86 1,071 12.5 58 9 61 0 0
    1994 MIN 16 122 1,256 10.3 65 7 63 4 1
    1995 MIN 16 122 1,371 11.2 60 17 80 0

    cris carter stats

  184. KoolKell Says:

    To De-Activate the guy, just so the coach can’t Start him or substitute him, is pretty schtty.

    The whole passing game was forced to DHB, for political reasons.

  185. alex7 Says:

    If Terrapin cares, we are debating Hagan’s merit of being one of the 5 WRs that can help us on gameday,

    as opposed to the guys who were not even targeted during the game because of sloppy routes or being less than 100% healthy.

  186. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # TerrapinRaider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    You guys are pathetic. Complaining about everything. The guy caught every ball thrown in his direction including the deep one and you’re complaining about HOW he caught them? Unreal!

    You all are not Raider fans. You are fantasy football players. You are fans of players who you hope can pad your stats. GTFOH
    ===============

    tpin,

    we dont usually agree but im with you on this issue, there is no issue.

    there are guys in the hall of fame that caught with their bodies and arms.

  187. Sullivan44 Says:

    Al Davis is the stupidest GM ever. He should get as much out of our players as he can, the way the good teams do. Think Belichick would bench a player just to make a draft pick look good? He utilizes all 53 players. He’d utilize a fan or two if he could. Everyone plays. Al’s shelving Hagan to protect DHB. What a chicken s’t c’k sucker. Dumbest GM EVER.

  188. inonewordraider Says:

    Brilliant move by Al Davis forcing Hue to start DHB now DHB looks better than ever in confidence so it’s one more weapon opposing D’s have to worry about

  189. alex7 Says:

    Inone,

    your method of posting makes it hard to gather any info.

    Again, many WRs show their talents year 1. Some take longer.

    Point is, there is no 3rd year WR thing going on. It’s more random than that, but MOST quality receivers in the game today, showed great skills their rookie year.

  190. RaiderRetribution Says:

    morilla Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    I’m not a “Hagan guy”, I’m a Raider fan. Just pointing put some interesting facts.

    I don’t care who is out there, just catch the damn ball.

    I’m with you there, Morilla, I think most of us are as well. We like to support the players taht are on our Raiders’ roster.

    We actually like the fact when players we are critical of prove us wrong, aka Mr. Groves had a great game on MNF, save Mr. Heyward-Bey, no Raider has been more critized.

  191. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Because I decided not to activate him,” Jackson said after the game. “He was down for a couple days, and when it’s all said and done, I’m going to put healthy guys out there. That’s just the way it is. I get to make that choice and that decision and that’s what I decided to do.”

    Read more: Raiders’ Hagan surprised to be inactive Monday
    Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

  192. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    To De-Activate the guy, just so the coach can’t Start him or substitute him, is pretty schtty.

    The whole passing game was forced to DHB, for political reasons.
    —————-
    Source? didnt think so

    Just throw it out there and see if it sticks, eh krappy?

  193. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    with chaz and murph out. that only left DHB and miller as receivers that have game experience in this offense. there is no way a career back up is going to come in and take one of our top four spots with out knowing the offense. moore goes ahead of hagan because he was a draft pick and has way more upside than hagan.

    I cant understand the problem with this

  194. alex7 Says:

    Mistic,

    there are MANY, MANY, MANY exponentially more WRs that ended up NOT producing much in the NFL because they body caught. There might be a handful that succeeded at it.

    Which career arc is DHB on? Yeah.

  195. RaiderLen Says:

    Whats A Drexl? Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    As if anyone on the Raiders coaching staff gives a fug about who some nobody fan wants to see on the field of play.
    —————————————
    LOL! Truth.

    We may all have favorites, but at the end of the day, it don’t mean @#$%.

  196. alex7 Says:

    Drexl,

    the source is the Raiders trying to spin Hagan being deactivated as relating to his hammy,

    with Hagan coming out and clarifying that it’s nonsense.

    That’s the source.

  197. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # inonewordraider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    inonewordraider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    1987 PHI 9 5 84 16.8 25 2 0 0 0
    1988 PHI 16 39 761 19.5 80 6 0 0 0
    1989 PHI 16 45 605 13.4 42 11 0 0 0
    1990 MIN 16 27 413 15.3 78 3 0 0 0
    1991 MIN 16 72 962 13.4 50 5 44 0 0
    1992 MIN 12 53 681 12.8 44 6 34 1 1
    1993 MIN 16 86 1,071 12.5 58 9 61 0 0
    1994 MIN 16 122 1,256 10.3 65 7 63 4 1
    1995 MIN 16 122 1,371 11.2 60 17 80 0

    cris carter stats
    ====================

    check mate

  198. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dakota, MB,

    What do you guys think of Glen Rice taking it to the hole in Anchorage?

  199. inonewordraider Says:

    alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    Inone,

    your method of posting makes it hard to gather any info.

    Again, many WRs show their talents year 1. Some take longer.

    Point is, there is no 3rd year WR thing going on. It’s more random than that, but MOST quality receivers in the game today, showed great skills their rookie year.

    the stats say Carter caught 9 his first year 39 his second, Floyd caught 3 his first year 15 his second so although many show their talents year 1 other don’t some of which end up in the hall of fame

  200. alex7 Says:

    Mistic,

    between a veteran receiver that was praised for his study-skills, route-running, and play-making all preseason by his coach, and has more catches in his career than all of our guys combined…

    and a rookie WR with “upside”, you think the smart play in a big game is going with the rookie?

    ok.

  201. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    Mistic,

    there are MANY, MANY, MANY exponentially more WRs that ended up NOT producing much in the NFL because they body caught. There might be a handful that succeeded at it.

    Which career arc is DHB on? Yeah.
    ===================

    you wont acknowledge it but he is clearly trending upward and getting better every time he is on the field

  202. RaiderLen Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    To De-Activate the guy, just so the coach can’t Start him or substitute him, is pretty schtty.

    The whole passing game was forced to DHB, for political reasons.
    —————————————-
    Now I really have heard it all.

    “for political reasons”

    HAHAHAHA!

  203. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Because I decided not to activate him,” Jackson said after the game. That’s just the way it is. I get to make that choice and that decision and that’s what I decided to do.”
    —————-
    To bad MR didnt see the video, he would be able to tell us if Hue really believed what he was saying.
    MR was reading Raider faces last Saturday, and claimed they thought they were going to lose. All by just by reading their faces during interviews.
    The CIA is wanting him to come in an train the spooks..

  204. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    True that most receivers peak at their 3rd year, and than that is what you can roughly expect from them top end.

    DHB had a nice game. But I would like to see 5-6 TD’s and close to 1,000 yards this season if there is any hope for him being a top-tier starter.

    4 catches for 44 yards and botching a nice sideline pass is only progress in the world of DHB.

    *************************

    Botching a nice sideline pass???? lolololololol …holy smokes …this sht is just laughable. Go back and watch the tap man, my gawd. LOL.

    So biased its ridiculous

  205. DutchRaider77 Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?

    ………..

    Yes. A qualified GM would have us better players at every one of these positions, sans maybe Seymour and Dmac.

    ______________________________________________________

    Now RMR is saying houston, Ford, Shaunessy and velhdeer are not Good enough to start…

  206. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Mistic,

    between a veteran receiver that was praised for his study-skills, route-running, and play-making all preseason by his coach, and has more catches in his career than all of our guys combined…

    and a rookie WR with “upside”, you think the smart play in a big game is going with the rookie?

    ok.
    =============================

    the smart play is what we saw monday letting DHB play the role he was drafted to play.

    He was money in the clutch

  207. alex7 Says:

    Mistic,

    you bozos brought out the Hall of Fame wide receivers.

    I counter with the “did nothing significant” wide receivers.

    And I repeat, which arc is DHB obviously on?

    It’s just silly when people bring out “but this so and so hall of famer did it this way!”

  208. alex7 Says:

    use it as an excuse for DHB not being a smooth receiver,

    and as an excuse for Campbell still not getting it done.

    and as en excuse for why the Raiders don’t need to upgrade at QB (joe blow in the 1960s won a super bowl with the same skill set!)

  209. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    hmmmm dmac, houston, dhb , ford, moore, shaugnessy, mclain, wimbly, seymore, lil wiz, veldheer, DVD, HU jack, al suanders, rod woodson, bug wiz, beikert

    this is clueless?

    ………..

    Yes. A qualified GM would have us better players at every one of these positions, sans maybe Seymour and Dmac.

    ______________________________________________________

    Now RMR is saying houston, Ford, Shaunessy and velhdeer are not Good enough to start…
    ————
    MR will say anything, he/she is a troll.

  210. RaiderLen Says:

    Now RMR is saying houston, Ford, Shaunessy and velhdeer are not Good enough to start…
    —————————————–
    Of course He is.

    I wouldn’t expect anything more.

  211. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Buffalo will not have one sack on Raiders’ qbs this Sunday.

  212. alex7 Says:

    again, the article’s point when addressing Hagan, and most of our points, isn’t that it’s either DHB or it’s Hagan.

    It’s the obvious point that Hagan is one of our 5 most talented WRs, that Hagan would help us win more than receivers 3, 4, and 5 on that list, and therefore should be active and playing.

  213. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Buffalo will not have any sacks on Raiders’ qbs this Sunday!

  214. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    DHB should have bent the pattern slighlty toward the middle giving campbell more room to complete the pass.

    Campbell should have led DHb slightly inside as the safety was late, this would have drawn DHB away from the boundary giving him more room to catch it in bounds.

    They will start hitting this and when they do it will be deadly.

    the fact that hu jack and saunders called it, and jc ran it syas a whole lot to me.

    It means they believe in DHb and there must be evidence in practice that he can do it.

    bottom line Hu jack needs to win, he isnt going to play players that cant cut it, he would be out of a job. Just ask tom cable

  215. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Alex #212

    one of the few times, I must admit you are correct;

    Do you have any idea how painful that is?

  216. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’ll change my prediction to the Raiders winning in Buffalo if Hagan’s put in the lineup. lol

  217. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Mistic,

    you bozos brought out the Hall of Fame wide receivers.

    I counter with the “did nothing significant” wide receivers.

    And I repeat, which arc is DHB obviously on?

    It’s just silly when people bring out “but this so and so hall of famer did it this way!”
    ====

    lol at bozos, your a regular don rickles

    DHb is getting better thats what arc he is on, and it isnt silly to point out why having patience with DHb is a good thing. the history suggest you can start slowly and have technical flaws and still become a great player.

  218. Sullivan44 Says:

    RaiderRetribution,

    What happens in Anchorage stays in Anchorage…

  219. inonewordraider Says:

    alex7 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    Mistic,

    you bozos brought out the Hall of Fame wide receivers.

    I counter with the “did nothing significant” wide receivers.

    And I repeat, which arc is DHB obviously on?

    It’s just silly when people bring out “but this so and so hall of famer did it this way!”

    Schilens Ford and Moore were out there running routes along with DHB so even if Al forced Hues hand Jc could have targeted those other receivers but chose to throw primarily to DHB and DHB came through. As badly as you want him to fail he’s shown improvement every year and will continue to improve because he’s a hard worker you just have to deal with it

  220. RaiderRetribution Says:

    any rumors trades, FA pick ups out there to feed us, Steve?

  221. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Why do they have the stupid rule that says that you have to deactive six players on game day and only the other 47 are elibable? There will always be a handful of players who won’t be able to go because of injury, but why can’t every body else be eligable? I don’t see the reason for it.

  222. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Campbell is in a contract year, do you really think he going to mess up his shot at his pay day or cementing his legacy as a quality nfl qb by throwing to guy he doesn’t believe in?

    get real

  223. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
    I’ll change my prediction to the Raiders winning in Buffalo if Hagan’s put in the lineup. lol
    ——————————
    Why?

  224. RaiderRetribution Says:

    and to think I was the farthest north Raider fan on this blog: Spokane, WA

  225. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Why do they have the stupid rule that says that you have to deactive six players on game day and only the other 47 are elibable? There will always be a handful of players who won’t be able to go because of injury, but why can’t every body else be eligable? I don’t see the reason for it.

    _____________________________________________________

    Because the owners are cheap and do not want to pay…not talking salary…

  226. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Don’t the players who are inactive still get paid there saleries?

  227. KoolKell Says:

    Mistic, how long have you been following the Raiders?

  228. r8dercain Says:

    We can only speculate on hagan
    only hue can answer y nmiller was active over him
    until then. Based on his preseason performance
    I’m not a coach but it looked like he could be very productive for the raiders

  229. alex7 Says:

    saves them per diem? lol, sounds like peanuts so doubt that’s the reason.

  230. RaiderRetribution Says:

    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—It’s only the second week of the season and already the Denver Broncos have come up with their motto.

    “Next man up.”

    The bruised and battered Broncos practiced Wednesday without a half-dozen key players. Pro Bowlers Champ Bailey(notes) (hamstring) and Brandon Lloyd(notes) (groin) were out along with fellow starters Knowshon Moreno(notes) (hamstring) and Elvis Dumervil(notes) (shoulder).

    AdChoices

    All of them were hurt Monday night against Oakland and all might join

  231. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Campbell is in a contract year, do you really think he going to mess up his shot at his pay day or cementing his legacy as a quality nfl qb by throwing to guy he doesn’t believe in?

    get real
    ——————————
    You clearly don’t understand.

    AL “for political reasons” was on the bat phone and intercepted the communication between Hue and Jason’s “helmet phone”.

    Al instructed Jason under penalty of “overhead projector treatment” to get the ball to the “great DHB” at ALL costs….winning be damned.

  232. alex7 Says:

    RR,

    one of the few times, huh? :) I’ll work harder to be right more often, like DHB does!

    ps Bozos is a very fun word to say and type.

  233. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders beat up Denver players and Buffalo knows this… fear will envelope Niagra Falls, Baby!

  234. alex7 Says:

    Both teams were laying the wood. Both teams suffered casualties. Heck of a contest.

  235. r8dercain Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    Mistic, how long have you been following the Raiders?
    ———————-
    been a fan since 1976!!
    That’s far back as I remember

    grew up in Oakland went to Oakland schools

    what about u kk

    oh an BTW only bi$ches hide there age
    again I’m 41 an u are?

  236. RaiderLen Says:

    1976 was a Verrry good year. :)

  237. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Mistic, how long have you been following the Raiders?
    ==========================

    insert bootlicker________

    since the 70’s

  238. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # RaiderLen Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Campbell is in a contract year, do you really think he going to mess up his shot at his pay day or cementing his legacy as a quality nfl qb by throwing to guy he doesn’t believe in?

    get real
    ——————————
    You clearly don’t understand.

    AL “for political reasons” was on the bat phone and intercepted the communication between Hue and Jason’s “helmet phone”.

    Al instructed Jason under penalty of “overhead projector treatment” to get the ball to the “great DHB” at ALL costs….winning be damned.
    =========================

    HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAha good one

  239. KoolKell Says:

    I’m 59. Started going to Raiders games in 64′ with my father at Frank Youell Field, grew up with Charlie Smith. ok?

  240. GalacticGus Says:

    the more wins the Raiders pile up, the more maddenraider is in hiding

  241. fingers Says:

    The Bills will be just like the 2010 Bills Sunday…..

    Raiders 27…. Bills 17….

  242. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chris Carter was high on coke the whole time, and yet he still amassed 19 TD’s his first 3 years, and was 3rd in the NFL in TD receptions his 3rd year.

    I would be happy if DHB were 33rd in TD receptions this year.

  243. John Tweedy Says:

    Kim Newton led NFL in week 1 in completions (6) and TDS (2) on throws of 21+ yards downfield, via ESPN Stats & Information. 10 QBs had none.
    Guess where JC ranked?

  244. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    I’m 59. Started going to Raiders games in 64′ with my father at Frank Youell Field, grew up with Charlie Smith. ok?
    =======================

    you have my respect on that fact i havnt challenged your fanhood. whats up

  245. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I watched my first Raider game with my dad and grandfather in 1970. It was the first football game I ever actually sat and watched. Len Dawson made an apparent game clinching first down late in the game on fourth down, but after the play he was speared by Ben Davidson and the Chiefs responded by going after Davidson. A huge team fight insued on the field and offsetting penelties were called and the down was played over. The Raiders held and got the ball back. George Blanda kicked a 48 yard field goal with three seconds left and the game ended in a 17-17 tie. There was no overtime for regular season games in those days. If the same thing happened today they would call the offsetting penelties after the play and the down would still count, but in those days the rules were different. Ben Davidson saved the game for the Raiders by spearing Len Dawson after the play. My dad and grandfather are both gone now, but we always had our love for The Raiders in common.

  246. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Good evening, gents.

    Wanted to offer my takes on the DHB performance in Denver.

    First, on the missed bomb – I put 95% of the fault on JC.

    Not only was the pass thrown too far out of bounds – more importantly, it was LATE.

    JC has to recognize single coverage with no deep safety help and release that ball when DHB is even with the DB, and just gaining separation. JC’s half second delay requires that the pass travels an additional 10 yards or so in the air. That makes it much harder to accurately throw, and hit DHB in stride.

    It’s unreasonable to expect DHB to make a circus catch in that situation – and he shouldn’t be asked to. A properly timed and accurately thrown ball probably gets six on that play.

    The only fault I put on DHB on that miss, is running his fly too close to the sideline. Might have been chucked there by the DB, but if he’s 2 yards further inside, he’s an easier target for JC.

    On the game icing first down reception – I agree that DHB has shown a bad tendency to make ‘body’ catches rather than use his hands. However, in all fairness, while it is true it is generally better to catch with your hands – this is not an absolute truth applicable to all catches and situations. I submit that on the game icing reception, DHB did the proper thing by cradling the ball with his body. That pass was perfectly thrown by JC – low and in an area where the DB had no shot for a knockdown. Based on DHB’s body position when he turned and went low to make the grab, I can not criticize him for using his torso to help secure the ball and prevent the defender from any attempt to knock it from his grasp.

    There’s a long way for DHB to go, plenty of room for improvement – he might never get to where we’d like him to be. But on Monday night he certainly took a step in the right direction, made a valuable contribution, and we should all be glad for that.

  247. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    That pass was perfectly thrown by JC – low and in an area where the DB had no shot for a knockdown.
    =======================

    what planet am i on today, mark this day down

  248. KoolKell Says:

    Mistic, just saying, it’s hard to have been a Raider watcher for some years, and be too naive, no?

    You’ve never seen, or be aware, of Al Davis meddling before? Particularly, with one of his draft picks? Seriously?

  249. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Mistic, just saying, it’s hard to have been a Raider watcher for some years, and be too naive, no?

    You’ve never seen, or be aware, of Al Davis meddling before? Particularly, with one of his draft picks? Seriously?
    ===============

    I didnt go that far, i just think it is way over blown in this day and time. i also think historically when he has a coach he trust he lets them be.

    Hu jack clearly has the keys, and i think he is doing what he wants, because his vision is so very similar to davis’s vision

  250. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK

    He knows everything and has a crystal ball you cant reason with him.

  251. RaiderLen Says:

    ALL teams have vested interest in high draft picks.

    Nobody wants to get it wrong.

    Everybody wants to be “right”.

    All teams will give “latitude” to their high choices.

    This is not unique to AL alone.

  252. ghostraiders Says:

    Raiderkooldaid.. that’s a,great story brother… my dad always tried getting me into football. .. except it was soccer…couldn’t stand soccer when I was a kid… I hope I can expose my son to Raiders football the sameway You’re dad n grand dad did for You. … good story man!!

  253. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    KK

    He knows everything and has a crystal ball you cant reason with him.
    ======================

    no not everything, far from it.

    It only seems that way to you, kind of like when an ant sees a man and thinks the man is a giant or a god

    besides my crystal ball beats your crystal meth all day long

  254. RaiderLen Says:

    @Raiderman99 #246
    Agreed.
    Nice observations.

  255. Sullivan44 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    i also think historically when he has a coach he trust he lets them be

    ……….

    Name one.

  256. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # RaiderLen Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    ALL teams have vested interest in high draft picks.

    Nobody wants to get it wrong.

    Everybody wants to be “right”.

    All teams will give “latitude” to their high choices.

    This is not unique to AL alone.
    =======================

    great point!

    alex smith has been coddled for 7 years! crabtree is another example. matthew stafford, arron curry in seattle, it happens all of the time

  257. Sullivan44 Says:

    And the 49ers suck, too.

  258. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I was a Raider fan in my past life thousands of years ago in caves we drew plays on the cave walls with blood.

    When I was born the doctor said the placenta was silver and black and I had a football shaped head.

    My parents were Raider fans my brothers and sisters are Raider fans and my kids grew up loving the Raiders.

    When I was 11 years old we won our first Super Bowl and at that age I could name every player on the team.

    I am sure that I am in Al Davis’s will.

    That’s how big of a Raider fan I am!

  259. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    i also think historically when he has a coach he trust he lets them be

    ……….

    Name one.
    ===============

    pointless exercise because when i give you a name you will counter with speculative hear say that cant be validated or proven. we have played this game before

  260. Sullivan44 Says:

    So does Seattle.

    What what point should Al stop emulating the Seattles and San Franciscos, and start emulating the Green Bays and New Englands?

  261. Sullivan44 Says:

    Al Davis has

    a) never trusted a head coach

    b) never let a head coach “be”

    That’s why you won’t name one.

  262. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    the 9ers and seattle suck beyond beleif, but the fact remains.

    Most teams give there high draft picks time to prove or disprove the idea that they can play and justify thier draft status. often its 3-4 years

  263. RaiderLen Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
    the 9ers and seattle suck beyond beleif, but the fact remains.

    Most teams give there high draft picks time to prove or disprove the idea that they can play and justify thier draft status. often its 3-4 years
    ——————————–
    Fact.

  264. ghostraiders Says:

    Emulate new England. .LOL.. they haven’t won a playoff gam in 3 years…lol

  265. RaiderLen Says:

    Ghostraiders Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    Emulate new England. .LOL.. they haven’t won a playoff gam in 3 years…lol
    ————————————–

    Ya, damn that Mangini, we got no “film”

    lol

  266. ghostraiders Says:

    Sullivan 44
    Why are you raider fan… ?? If anything… you hate al Davis more than you like the raiders man…LOL. listen to yourself. … you self hating raider fan…

  267. Sullivan44 Says:

    The reason I hate Al Davis is because I’m a Raider fan. Nothing prevents the Raiders from winning more than Al Davis. So I want him gone, as a fan.

  268. ghostraiders Says:

    Hey Len.. patriots new mantra to Chad ochocinco…is. … cheat. Don’t tweet! !

  269. PlunkforHOF Says:

    My beloved Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17

  270. RaiderDebo Says:

    Middle linebacker Joe Mays said the Raiders offered to start shifts, motions and other “unscouted looks we’d never seen before” to put Denver on its heels to start. But that doesn’t explain the shoddy tackling and gap control, which have been persistent issues for four straight years in which Denver hasn’t finished higher than 26th in the league rankings.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Finally, an offensive mind in the house again. Cable is a cretin.

  271. ghostraiders Says:

    Sullivan 44..

    You’re rap is over… 99% of the time all you do is bash Davis. .. stop it already. .. either root for the team or gtfo… man.. You’re like a frigging broken record. .and on top of everything you always seem to root against them… your blinded by Your hatred for Davis That you are a self hating Raiders fan.. its sad…

  272. RaiderLen Says:

    Ghostraiders Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
    Hey Len.. patriots new mantra to Chad ochocinco…is. … cheat. Don’t tweet
    ———————————–
    Hahahaha

    He’ll fail on the tweet part.

  273. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    # RaiderLen Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    ALL teams have vested interest in high draft picks.

    Nobody wants to get it wrong.

    Everybody wants to be “right”.

    All teams will give “latitude” to their high choices.

    This is not unique to AL alone.
    =============================================
    Absolutely correct.

    Some people here seem to think that Davis should have just cut DHB based on his lack of production and poor showing so far.

    It’s more than fair to second guess the draft pick itself, but it’s absurd to criticize Davis for giving DHB every possible chance to validate it.

    Also, it ain’t ‘meddling’ when you’re the owner, GM and head honcho. It’s Davis’ team. Davis is going to make suggestions and sometimes demand certain things from his coaches. That’s his right. You might not like it. You might disagree with running an organization this way. You might disagree with Davis’ vision and philosophy. But that’s the way things are and always will be as long as Al is in charge.

    If you’re so convinced Davis makes winning impossible, I suggest you’re ignorant of NFL history. Me ? I know better. There’s no guarantee Al’s gonna restore this franchise to it’s once lofty position. But if he does, it’s going to be extra sweet to see all the critics eat crow. Al NEVER gets thrown under the bus by this Raider fan.

  274. hendu Says:

    267,I want YOU gone as a fan,make us HAPPY,negative sobbb

  275. GG Says:

    I’ve seen it many times this season and last season. DHB gets open (in NFL terms) and Campbell just doesn’t look his way or ignores it and goes somewhere else. Obviously it has a bit to do with Campbell not feeling confident in DHB catching with his hands, but the only way to bring DHB along is just to throw 70% of passes his way and let him fight his way thru it. I think also with so much emphasis being placed on ball control by the Raiders, that Campbell naturally is doing the “right thing” by the gameplan to play safe. But if our D can be dominant, then hopefully we can see the return to the Quick Score mentality, Campbell throwing 20 yard passes on 1st and 2nd downs.

  276. RaiderLen Says:

    @275

    I want Jason to find the open man that is furthest down the field and stick the throw.

    Amen.

  277. GG Says:

    Yeah just “cut it loose”

  278. antispy3 Says:

    Trying to be ogjective about the Bills Oline. They won by 34 points on Sunday, right?

    Well, Demetrius Bell, the Bills LT, was a trainwreck last year. He played well on Sunday, but Tambi Hali was a shell of his usual self. On one play he indiscrimminately rushed upfield, vacating the perimeter & allowing jackson a long gainer. His lone sack came while lined up opposite Eric Pears, the Bills RT. Is there a theme here? Langston Walker, anyone? But Eric Pears? I didn’t think Buffalo employed the Zone Blocking Scheme.

    I do like their LG, Andy Levitre & center Eric Wood. However, the Chiefs D was overworked & ultimately overwhelmed, especially with the loss of Eric Berry. Dorsey played hard but didn’t offer the difference of the likes of the Raiders Dline. Eric
    Johnson returned to his underachieving, disappearing self. Kelly Gragg had no tackles. Not usually noticeable in a NT but tackles are Gragg’s forte.
    Buffalo’s interior Dline is stout, with Williams & Marcus Dareus on the interior of their combo “D.” 4-3 one play, 3-4 the next. Kelsey & Merriman (lights out or on?) ptovide most of the pass rush, which doesn’t seem worthy of a special max-protect blocking scheme.

    They lost McGee, one of their starting corners. Coupled with the loss for the season of Marcus Easley, whom had just won the #2 WR spot, almost a wash with the Raiders potential loss of Huff & Ford. Just the same their secondary doesn’t present any shutdown or playmaking types (Leodus McKelvey has the potential bus hasn’t done it yet. No Brian Dawkins or Champ Baileys here).

    If Jared Veldheer continues his development, illuminating the confidence level of Jason Campbell &, more importantly, Coach Hue, the Raiders may just realize their passing game. Or the sembelance of one.

    If the Raiders are without Ford perhaps Hagan gains valuable PT, reuniting Campbell & Hagan. An actual possession receiver is realized; by default.

    Boss has resumed practicing, albeit on a limited basis. Sit him this week; avoid the 10 hours of flight, Rich Stadium artificial turf, not being 100%. Hopefully Graham can make a catch or two, establishing some confidence going forward. Just don’t want to sacrifice a less than physically ready Boss when he should be healthier & more confident against the Jets & the rest of the scuedule.

    So, despite the 5 hour flight, extreme time zone change, hostile crowd (what else is new?), bad food, hotel hell & the whole east coast thing I thing those from the 2008 team will utilize that bad experience as motivation for a victory this Sunday, to the tune of 37-20.

  279. GG Says:

    “Pull the trigger”

  280. Sullivan44 Says:

    I am rooting for the team. But wishing Al Davis gone, I’m rooting for the team. Al Davis being gone automatically helps the team.

  281. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I like our chances this weekend, may look into doubling my winnings from Monday on it.

  282. hendu Says:

    280=idiot

  283. RaiderLen Says:

    GG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
    “Pull the trigger”
    ——————————–
    “obviously” lol

  284. antispy3 Says:

    On the DHB thing; I’m just tired of Al’s projects taking valuable PT from more well rounded WR’s. With the present injury situation, however, he might just strike like lightening & light it up Sunday; did I actually say that? And Chazz Schillens can catch the ball without getting hurt? Reduce penalties by 45%? Campbell stick it downfield? Chris Johnson not grab a WR? I’ll stop. . .

  285. GG Says:

    Hue’s a sparkling man. But it would be nice if he used some alternative synonyms for obviously from time to time.

  286. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hagan is here for 1 purpose…he is insurance in the event of injury or ineffectiveness from Chaz, Schilens and Moore.

    I think Hagan is the 511st player. Either he or Nick Miller will be cut once Pryor is added to the roster AND there are no injuries to the above.

  287. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Sorry, Hagan is insurance for Chaz, DHB and Moore

  288. GG Says:

    Bills run D gave up 6 yards per carry against the bumbling Chiefs. With our monstering run-blocking OL and Dmac, they’re going to be in a world of pain.

    Further on the point of McFadden drawing comparisons to OJ’s running style. I’m counting down the 2,105 single season record game by game.

  289. KoolKell Says:

    That deep pass from JC – DHB was right on the money, sorry. Just watched it.

  290. RaiderLen Says:

    SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
    Sorry, Hagan is insurance for Chaz, DHB and Moore
    ——————————————
    Agreed, in hindsight on my part.

    Hagan not dressing, when relatively healthy, signals the teams intent.

  291. GG Says:

    Hagan and Schilens are natural Flankers.
    DHB is a natural Split-End.
    Murphy probably could go either way.
    Moore is probably a natural Flanker.
    Ford probably more impossible to stop in the slot.

    I’d have DHB and Hagans/Schilens on 2 WR sets.
    Ford/Moore in the slot on 3 wide.

  292. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hagan’s not going to be insurance for anything. He’s already speaking out. He knows based on his preseason performance that other teams would claim him. He’s going to just blast the team in the press until they either play him, or cut him.

  293. GG Says:

    Better way to show it.

    Split End rotation: DHB/Murphy
    Flanker rotation: Schilens/Hagan
    Slot rotation: Ford/Moore
    Kick/Punt return: Moore/Ford

    Get rid of Miller for Pryor.

  294. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
    Hagan’s not going to be insurance for anything. He’s already speaking out. He knows based on his preseason performance that other teams would claim him. He’s going to just blast the team in the press until they either play him, or cut him.
    ————————
    OK lol

    He’s gonna fight the man.

    Rage against the machine.

    Fight the good fight.

    Agitate for His “rights”.

    lol….ridiculous.

  295. GG Says:

    btw, i noticed someone in the live chat posted a question posing as me using the “gg” nomenclature.

    How dare you!

  296. morilla Says:

    Here’s a pic from way back.

    http://laconicshade.com/pics/dad_me.jpg

  297. GG Says:

    That’s an awesome pic.

  298. joker94583 Says:

    Yeah Duhmarcbust had confidence too. DHB is a joke he runs terrible routes and is one dimensional straight down the field. He’s a practice squadder on any other team. But he’s Al’s boy so get used to him. Hagan had better be on the field in Buffalo

  299. Kirk Says:

    DHB…27 games and only two touchdowns.

    No other team in the NFL would start a wide receiver with so little production.

    This is how Al Davis hurts the Raiders.

  300. RaiderLen Says:

    Morilla Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
    Here’s a pic from way back.

    http://laconicshade.com/pics/dad_me.jpg
    ——————————————–
    Very cool.

    I bought my 22 month old grand daughter a Raider cheerleader outfit.

    Gotta start em young! lol

  301. Sullivan44 Says:

    What’s ridiculous is the fact that Hagan’s not suited up. He’s a fine receiver, and should be utilized as much as possible. This is why the Raiders haven’t had a winning season in nearly a decade. Al just has no clue on how to manage personnel. He’s lost.

  302. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Poor Real MaddenRaider

    With the team winning the season openrer, and clearly moving the team in the right direction, he has been relegated to dreaming up conspiracy theories for the inactive/6th WR roster spot.

    And he has to do it under some stupid moniker that everybody knows is him.

  303. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
    What’s ridiculous is the fact that Hagan’s not suited up. He’s a fine receiver, and should be utilized as much as possible. This is why the Raiders haven’t had a winning season in nearly a decade. Al just has no clue on how to manage personnel. He’s lost.
    ——————————————
    No need to worry about Hagan, he’ll be out of here in no time just as soon as he sticks it to the man.

    And then all of the other teams that didn’t offer him a contract when He was a free agent, can fall all over themselves 45 days after the fact.

    Right?

  304. RaiderLen Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
    Poor Real MaddenRaider

    With the team winning the season openrer, and clearly moving the team in the right direction, he has been relegated to dreaming up conspiracy theories for the inactive/6th WR roster spot.

    And he has to do it under some stupid moniker that everybody knows is him.

    ————————
    I’ll LOL and drink to that.

  305. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If they are going to keep Nick Miller on the roster and active on gamedays, might as well play him a little at WR.

    Because realistically, he has looked better as a WR than a kick/punt returner.

    He botched multiple kicks last year, had the braincramp against NO this preseason, and was miserable on Monday.

    Meanwhile, he caught everything thrown to him this preseason, and looked at least servicable as a slot, move the chains type WR.

    Why Denarrius Moore can’t return punts and really just call a fair catch half the time and catch the ball is beyond me.

  306. morilla Says:

    Thanks, my dad did the same. Got me started right away. I did the same with my daughter. I got her a Burgess jersey onzie ( thats the only # they had back then). Now she is rocking a McFadden jersey.

    Me and my Dad have a tradition of making it up there to at least one game a year. We are getting are tix this week, still haven’t decided on the game though.

  307. Sullivan44 Says:

    Yes, it’s a theory, Vegas (your former name, as you too have changed yours).

    But we know that Hagan had a solid outing in preseason, was inactivated for week one, and has publicly contradicted the team’s reasons for deactivating him. Those are the facts. So, at the very least, things are, as Randy Moss would say, “fishy”.

  308. RaiderLen Says:

    Those are the facts. So, at the very least, things are, as Randy Moss would say, “fishy”.
    ———————————

    The stench of Lombardi, Shell 2.0, and Bed and Breakfast are long gone.

    No correlation what so ever.

  309. RaiderLen Says:

    Morilla Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    Thanks, my dad did the same. Got me started right away. I did the same with my daughter. I got her a Burgess jersey onzie ( thats the only # they had back then). Now she is rocking a McFadden jersey.

    Me and my Dad have a tradition of making it up there to at least one game a year. We are getting are tix this week, still haven’t decided on the game though.

    ———————————-
    Way to go Morilla!

  310. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yes, it’s a theory, Vegas (your former name, as you too have changed yours).

    ************************

    Yeah, I changed my name because I don’t live in Vegas anymore.

    Being “Vegas Raider” and living in New Mexico doesn’t really make much sense.

    Why have you changed your name 30 times?

  311. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby, have you had a chance to review the bills v chiefs game?

  312. Sullivan44 Says:

    Things are still fishy, without Shell, Lombardi, and Walsh.

    Hagan has denied the Raiders’ reasons for not suiting him up. That’s a fishy stench only Glen Rice would know.

  313. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Thec,

    I watched a fair chunk of it live.

    Why, do we need some “film” analysis, lol.

  314. RaiderReggie Says:

    I know we got Buffalo this week but, at the home opener the Raiders better not let Mark Sanchez eat a hot dog on the sidelines like he did the last time the Jets came to Oakland. The Jets got a big lead and Sanchez is eating a hot dog in our home stadium. I was pissed so the players should be pissed and ready to go.

  315. morilla Says:

    Are = our. I really need to stop posting from the phone. Auto correct blows.

  316. morilla Says:

    I hope hue blows up that pic of Sanchez up and hangs posters in the locker room.

  317. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I got my two boys Raider gear as new-borns and now through their childhood. I had the pleasure of decorating their bedroom which is RAIDEREDOUT a couple years ago, with little dodger and laker banners too, lol.

  318. Sullivan44 Says:

    Reggie, how do you think Rex will plan for Campbell? Think he’ll show Campbell some respect? Sit back, and let him throw? Or do you think he’ll take note of Campbell’s complete inability to pick up blitzes and evade pass rushes, and tape his front 7’s ears back?

  319. GG Says:

    Just on the Hagan issue.

    Look thru the pre-season games, a lot of other teams rested starters or had injured starters at WR, and the back-ups played a lot and put up monster numbers. But when 53 man cuts came, a lot of those back-ups got cut, and the few that remained were on practice squad or last in depth chart.

    The numbers alone doesn’t mean Hagan is the best receiver on the Raiders roster. The thing being, those monster numbers were put up by a POSITION, not a player. Example, Taylor Price Patriots. Those numbers will go now to Deion Branch. I could find a ton of other examples if I have to hit nfl.com gameday stats of pre-season games.

  320. Sullivan44 Says:

    I might be bold enough to predict right now that the Jets game is when “down goes Campbell” (best Cossell voice). And, with no Gradkowski, it will then be the Kyle Boller comedy show. Season already over.

  321. RaiderLen Says:

    fishy stench only Glen Rice would know.
    ——————————————–
    LOL, that’s funny.

    I’d have ate that fish taco in the 80’s.

  322. RaiderReggie Says:

    morilla Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
    I hope hue blows up that pic of Sanchez up and hangs posters in the locker room.
    *****************************************************
    I agree!!

  323. RaiderLen Says:

    GG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
    Just on the Hagan issue.

    Look thru the pre-season games, a lot of other teams rested starters or had injured starters at WR, and the back-ups played a lot and put up monster numbers. But when 53 man cuts came, a lot of those back-ups got cut, and the few that remained were on practice squad or last in depth chart.

    The numbers alone doesn’t mean Hagan is the best receiver on the Raiders roster. The thing being, those monster numbers were put up by a POSITION, not a player. Example, Taylor Price Patriots. Those numbers will go now to Deion Branch. I could find a ton of other examples if I have to hit nfl.com gameday stats of pre-season games.
    ——————————————-
    Truth.

    JHill Made the same point earlier today.

  324. Sullivan44 Says:

    Wonder if the reason she’s a Republican in the first place is to wash away her past private life, by joining the more anti-black of the two parties. Sort of how so many closet gays join the Republicans.

  325. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I like the fact the Bills had an easy game vs the queefs, turnovers, short fields, whatever. Raiders will present a challenge thats for sure.

  326. Absolutely True Says:

    184.KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    To De-Activate the guy, just so the coach can’t Start him or substitute him, is pretty schtty.

    The whole passing game was forced to DHB, for political reasons.

    ————————————-

    That is a good post people.

    DHB baskets 4 passes and some go head over heels. 4 dinks and that is supposed to say something? That is to be expected.

    But that is beside the point. The fact that he is the #1 reciever just to prove a point is not a good thing. Oh, he caught passes like he is over paid to do, but when he start to get shaky, I really trust Hue has the balls to bench him. And Al can not force his pets on the coaches. He has got to let the coaches coach and decide who plays.

    If Hue gets canned or quits because he can no longer justify being a puppet, I hope he goes public with the BS we know to be Als’ meddling.

    And no, I am not MR. I am actually a Al Davis supporter but sometimes he crosses the line and it hurts the team. It is frustrating.

  327. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
    Wonder if the reason she’s a Republican in the first place is to wash away her past private life, by joining the more anti-black of the two parties. Sort of how so many closet gays join the Republicans.
    —————————————-
    I’d suggest you read her face and let us know if she is “compensating”

  328. Sullivan44 Says:

    Len, you’ve been talking about this face reading stuff every day. What do you mean?

  329. Sullivan44 Says:

    Absolutely True is me, actually.

  330. LTR Says:

    I’m glad we have Hagan. He looked good against the scrubs in preseason and will get a chance. But he’s new and doesn’t have the playbook down as well or the chemistry/timing. Just because he thinks he was ready to go, doesn’t mean the coaches did. DHB worked with Soup in the offseason and deserves every opportuinity to start. Lots of crow going to be served up soon.

  331. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    Len, you’ve been talking about this face reading stuff every day. What do you mean?
    —————————————-
    Actually no. 1st time I’ve ever mentioned it.

    I’m just referencing what others have posted with regard to your claims.

  332. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hagan looked good against the Saints 1st string defense, actually.

  333. Sullivan44 Says:

    Well, whatever it is, I have no idea what it means.

  334. Absolutely True Says:

    Hagan was Oakland’s most productive receiver during its four exhibition games. Yet, [Jackson] felt as if the Raiders had a better chance to win with Hagan on the bench.

    ————————–

    Please insert Davis for Jackson

  335. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    DHB did his job, helped the team get the W, individually missed out on a big game if JC hits him for that bomb, but I liked his contribution on Monday.

  336. GG Says:

    I thought the DHB pick was a reach, but I have always liked DHB and I think he will end up being a good’un if by pure dedication and will to succeed. That alone is an intangible quality that is the litmus test in the NFL, the thing often telling of the difference between Qbs who succeeded and failed (eg, Gannon), tho they didn’t have the physical tools or had years of mediocrity prior to breaking out.

    As everyone eyed the Raiders taking Crabtree, and even tho they play different positions (flanker vs split-end) DHB and Crabtree will forever be compared. And in hindsight, we’ve already been proven right in that regard when you factor in Crabtree’s diva clause, his 1,000 shoes, and his on-going persistent foot problems (will likely miss a ton of games this year too).

    Sure, we could’ve had Nicks, Wallace, Harvin etc. And that’s why the pick was a reach at the time. But it’s not DHB’s fault and he’s doing everything he can to vindicate the selection. He’s one of my favorite Raiders purely for that reason.

  337. LTR Says:

    I trust the coaches AND Al over anyone’s opinion in this or any blog. Including all the talking heads. We’re going to make some noise this year and teams are not going to look forward to playing us.

  338. RaiderReggie Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    Reggie, how do you think Rex will plan for Campbell? Think he’ll show Campbell some respect? Sit back, and let him throw? Or do you think he’ll take note of Campbell’s complete inability to pick up blitzes and evade pass rushes, and tape his front 7’s ears back?
    ****************************************************
    Sullivan, I know Rex will come after Jason Campbell but the Raiders will need to do the same thing with Mark Sanchez. He is a little shakey under pressure. The Raiders can run the football on the Jets. The Jets are not a great offensive team either.

  339. RaiderLen Says:

    That is a good post people.

    The whole passing game was forced to DHB, for political
    reasons.
    ———————————
    No it’s not.
    It’s narcissism.

  340. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    His confidence should be high right now and I’m anxious to see how it’ll carry on to the next game. Confidence is one helluva thing when playing with.

  341. Absolutely True Says:

    329.Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
    Absolutely True is me, actually.

    ——————————

    And you are still a troll

  342. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    The wife and I were coming home from having dinner at the Elephant Bar and we’re listening to 57 AM Sports Radio, and Lincoln Kennedy is one of the Moderators on the show.

    Lincoln, who played (9) offensive left Tackle for the Raiders said that: Warren Sapp is an idiot and a liar, and that he had no respect for the jerk. He said Sapp lied about Al Davis calling plays. Kennedy says in the nine years he played, as part of the offensive line, that Davis never called in a play that he knew of…and that it’s one of many bad rapps put on Mr. Davis.

  343. GG Says:

    Hagan runs good routes, but no one seems to notice that a lot of passes were caught by Hagan (and many other receivers in the NFL) in the bread-basket, especially certain routes where the ball is in traffic, thrown accurately to the numbers or shoulders, and the receiver does the high-percentage catch catching it into their body rather than sticking the hands out.

    DHB is still less than 100% confident catching with his hands when he has to extend, but he caught everything thrown his way on MNF, and if you put Hagan there instead of DHB, the same result would’ve happened, 4 for 44, as Hagan would’ve been playing a POSITION that saw the same routes run, the same difficulty to pass, having to go back to the run and Dmac, etc.

  344. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I hear alot of Big Linc on the radio here, guy’s a true Raider, class act all the way.

  345. RaiderLen Says:

    Hagar The Horrible Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
    The wife and I were coming home from having dinner at the Elephant Bar and we’re listening to 57 AM Sports Radio, and Lincoln Kennedy is one of the Moderators on the show.

    Lincoln, who played (9) offensive left Tackle for the Raiders said that: Warren Sapp is an idiot and a liar, and that he had no respect for the jerk. He said Sapp lied about Al Davis calling plays. Kennedy says in the nine years he played, as part of the offensive line, that Davis never called in a play that he knew of…and that it’s one of many bad rapps put on Mr. Davis.
    ——————————————-
    I heard this same thing from Lincoln on KNBR several years ago.

  346. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    I been here da last 5 years,Neva really say much.watched alot of good raiders team,seen alot of bummy raiders teams,but I kno raiders teams of da past years wld hav found a way to lose diz game…but dey found a way to get it done…em juz glad 2 see dat carry over from da end of last season…finish strong nation!

  347. priesttj Says:

    This post is directed to B.A.U.C.E. only. Bruh do you remember how many times we discussed Chad Johnson your boy who you insisted the Raiders should take a chance on because we desparately needed his SWAG!!

    Well now you see why I said what i said look at the mess he’s already started in NE and we’re only in WEEK ONE!!!! He couldn’t even keep his stupid MOUTH SHUT for ONE MONTH………he is only interested in himself and what he can get out of any situation. That dude is one selfish me-ish H.A.M.(Hot Ass MESS) I’m glad we didn’t brin g him in here with these young players. Can you imagine what he would’ve done to these kids?

    NOW you see for yourself that I was right….

  348. Teabag Says:

    Ford’s hand is broken again… guarantee it. Not a hammy…..

    DMAC limited inpractice…. NOT GOOD… ughhh….

  349. Sullivan44 Says:

    Looks like Sarah did a lot of skiing, too. Rang rang diggity dang a dang…

  350. priesttj Says:

    Post #337 LTR man truer words were never spoken about how I feel. These cats in here can scream and yell and listen to these negative posters all they want(some of them are worse anyone in the media) KK Alex7 MR and his 19 personalities.

    Thanks for the post my man….

  351. REALLIONAIREB Says:

    Raiders

    One Nation

    Under God

  352. RaiderLen Says:

    Teabag Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
    Ford’s hand is broken again… guarantee it. Not a hammy…..

    DMAC limited inpractice…. NOT GOOD… ughhh….
    ————————————————-
    Hunch? or do you have a source…regarding Ford

  353. Sore Nuts Says:

    MAN PEOPLE, cant u just fckng watch the game and enjoy the show? what is with all this petty tripe bickering chatter soundin like a bunch of jealous women over whos husbands got better dick? Really come on! people, what is the fcking deal wit u all?

    Guess what dip wads? The team belongs to Al Davis and if you don’t like get the fck out it is that simple……………………………PERIOD

    Leave now and never come back.

    Poof. Be gone.

    Disappear

    Take a slow boat to china

    Run home to mamma

    Tell someone who actually cares. You think Raider fans want to hear your pisssin and a moanin? You pisss and moan so much I really think you all is butt hurt to the nth degree. Get ova it.

    Does Al meddle with da team? BFD if he does. He owns it its his toy. You is just jealous cuz u cant play with it.

    Now go home and cry.

    Do I enjoy the losing? Hell fkng NO. But until Al hires me as HC or GM, I cant do a muthafkng thing about it, but I sho ass hell aint comin in here and crying like a spoilt wittle brat baby.

    Now run along and go play with somethin that dont make ya butt hurt.

  354. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    I don’t like 85, but I didn’t find what he said was wrong. I think Bruschi should STFU personally, he’s not on that team anymore and he’s using his platform to blast anybody he wants to.

  355. Sullivan44 Says:

    Speaking of petty bickering, look at the criticism we’ve been seeing of Hagan since he had his good game against the Saints.

    “he’s a retread”

    “he’s lucky we’ve even giving him a check”.

    Petty. Bickering.

  356. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    I will be the first to admit, I have been hating on DHB’s play time for a while & even b1+chd a little when Hagan was inactive on MNF. However, I always liked his work ethic & dedication to be great. I am starting to turn the corner on this kid. Confidence is one of the major factors he has been missing up to this point. If monday’s game is enough to give him that extra boost knowing that he can actually get it done in this league, we may be onto something with him.
    Also if JC can learn how to better place the ball for him on the occasional bomb, he can really shine.

  357. uglyorc Says:

    If you arent one of the top 4 WRs and you dont return punts, you are inactive. That’s how it goes. What good is it going to do to activate 6 WRs? How does that help the team? It doesnt. End of story.

    When Murphy comes back, Schilens will be WR #5 and Hagan will be WR #6. Stop the hype. They dont deserve it. Just because Ford, Murphy, and Schilens were injured during preseason is no reason to make Hagan the starter. I cant wait until they cut Hagan or Schilens just because it will end some of this stupid madness. Hell, cut them both and bring on McGee for all I care. Lucky for you Murphy and now Ford are hurt.

    Its not us bashing Hagan, its you people who are hypeing him. I have nothing against Hagan. I’m happy for him. The ridiculous love for the bench warmers and bashing of Oakland’s coaches and management for not starting them on the other hand, that’s worth bashing. Its downright stupid. There are 100 Hagans in this league sitting on the bench. Go bash the other coaches and managers.

  358. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hagan denied the Raiders’ reasons for inactivating him. That’s what’s suspect.

  359. GG Says:

    Yeah, just keep targeting him and he will fight thru it and BECOME a consistent performer. He’s got a good chance this year, because Murphy is struggling thru multiple lingering injuries, Ford now too, Schilens is always injury prone and Moore is still raw. DHB can stand up this year and be the guy, he (fingers crossed) remains healthy often. That alone is an important factor in his ongoing development.

  360. Sore Nuts Says:

    AND BTW, BFD your right, im wrong, told ya so, im right, your wrong, listen to me, trust me, blah blah blah blah fckng blah.

    A lot of u all talk Raider football, keep up the good reports.

    the rest of the cry baby complaining trolls who like to talk politics and race bait can go and buy a ear of corn and stick it where the sun dont shine.

  361. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    As for Hagan, I really liked what he showed us in preseason. He is however behind a bunch of guys we as a team have put a lot of stock in (DHB, Ford, Murph, Chaz, D. Moore & unfortunately N. Miller). I’d take Hagan over Miller everyday of the week but that still leaves him 5th or 6th on the depth chart. As much as we all hoped for big things from Hagan this year, there’s not much chance he gets much burn in there. For his sake, he better make the best outta the chances he gets.

  362. Sullivan44 Says:

    Raider: Hagan’s hurt

    Hagan: I’m fine.

    You don’t find that weird?

  363. GG Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Hagan denied the Raiders’ reasons for inactivating him. That’s what’s suspect.

    —–

    Incorrect. The Raiders never said his deactivation was because he was injured. He was always a new FA acquisition that got playing time due to injuries/resting to our starters in pre-season, and his good play EARNED him a roster spot. He has to work his way up the depth chart now (thru injury to others and/or continued better practice than the incumbents).

    Hagan also doesn’t sound like his mouthing off at Davis/coaches. He said he didnt get to play but there’s still 15 more games and he’s looking forward to getting a chance. It will come in time if he remains consistent and healthy.

  364. Teabag Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Teabag Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
    Ford’s hand is broken again… guarantee it. Not a hammy…..

    DMAC limited inpractice…. NOT GOOD… ughhh….
    ————————————————-
    Hunch? or do you have a source…regarding Ford
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6

    Just wait and see.

  365. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Just Win. I’m out.

  366. RaiderLen Says:

    Just wait and see.
    ——————————–
    I’ll take that to mean it’s a hunch.

    Fair enough.

  367. Teabag Says:

    RaiderLen Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Just wait and see.
    ——————————–
    I’ll take that to mean it’s a hunch.

    Fair enough.
    ^^^^^
    Not a hunch…take it however you want it.

  368. GoodOle00 Says:

    364. U don’t know ****

  369. RaiderLen Says:

    Incorrect. The Raiders never said his deactivation was because he was injured. He was always a new FA acquisition that got playing time due to injuries/resting to our starters in pre-season, and his good play EARNED him a roster spot. He has to work his way up the depth chart now (thru injury to others and/or continued better practice than the incumbents).

    Hagan also doesn’t sound like his mouthing off at Davis/coaches. He said he didnt get to play but there’s still 15 more games and he’s looking forward to getting a chance. It will come in time if he remains consistent and healthy.
    —————————————
    I like this post. Fair, balanced,(no… I’m not a Foxtoid) good perspective, and accurate factually.

  370. GoodOle00 Says:

    Sneaking suspicion Teabagger is RMR again…psychopath.

    Gross and yawn all at the same time

  371. RaiderLen Says:

    Not a hunch…take it however you want it.
    ———————————-
    Ok Tea Bag.

    I’ll wait and see.

  372. RaiderLen Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    Sneaking suspicion Teabagger is RMR again…psychopath.

    Gross and yawn all at the same time
    ———————————
    Ha!

    I’ve thought that as well, but I’m not into deciphering all of the BS.

    Just a gut feeling.

  373. GoodOle00 Says:

    Listen Quasimodo, thats the hunchiest hunch hunch I’ve ever hunched…hunch.

  374. r8dercain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    # KoolKell Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    I’m 59. Started going to Raiders games in 64′ with my father at Frank Youell Field, grew up with Charlie Smith. ok?
    =======================

    you have my respect on that fact i havnt challenged your fanhood. whats up
    _________________
    Ditto

  375. Teabag Says:

    I don’t even know who the hell RMR is… stop by RaiderOutlawz… I’m there all the time.. Don’t know who this “RMR” you speak of is.

  376. RaiderLen Says:

    What is raideroutlawz?

  377. GoodOle00 Says:

    Teabagged. Sad because you have the same pathetic way of baiting people with blatantly erronious inflamation as RMR / Dr. No…one cares

  378. GoodOle00 Says:

    376. Must be an internet cafe…

  379. GoodOle00 Says:

    Or what he calls his Moms laundry room

  380. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Morilla…post 296:

    Awesome picture of you and your son. Just great. Another Raider “die-hard” in the making. Enjoy the years with him because they fly by and you can’t get them back. Go mini raider-nation.

  381. RaiderLen Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    376. Must be an internet cafe…
    —————————
    lol

    I was hoping for an address. I can go and do what I please.

    I was hoping to make a visit.

  382. GoodOle00 Says:

    Schilens, Boss, Hagan, DHB, DMC, Bush, Taiwan, Barnes, Ausberry, Gordon, Lotta targets 4 Campbell

  383. Sullivan44 Says:

    Raideroutlawz. Run by some borderline retard named “Bump”. You say anything he doesn’t like, he hacks your profile and says self degrading things under your name. Just childish b.s.

  384. r8dercain Says:

    If Hue gets canned or quits because he can no longer justify being a puppet, I hope he goes public with the BS we know to be Als’ meddling.

    And no, I am not MR. I am actually a Al Davis supporter but sometimes he crosses the line and it hurts the team. It is frustrating.
    ________________
    I agree

  385. GG Says:

    This place is better than all Raiders forums imo. There’s too many raider forums, due to internal fracturing and power trips, etc, and it’s a shame really. It would’ve been awesome if there was just one central Raiders forum and no others, where the admins never ban anyone and never have power trips.

    If I created a site, not that i could, don’t have the skills, that’d be my plan – centralize it all and be the only admin so there was never any banning, ego-tripping, and fracturing.

  386. Wanna Be Says:

    375.Teabag Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
    I don’t even know who the hell RMR is… stop by RaiderOutlawz… I’m there all the time.. Don’t know who this “RMR” you speak of is.

    —————————–

    Hahahahahahahah :lol:

    Teabag is MR/RMR

    Dude, you say you are in here all the time? Well you sho as heck know who RMR is or u plain ignorant!

  387. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
    Raideroutlawz. Run by some borderline retard named “Bump”. You say anything he doesn’t like, he hacks your profile and says self degrading things under your name. Just childish b.s.
    ——————————————
    We’re all gonna see MR one day on Discovery channel.

    It’ll be an examination of the serial troll and the sock puppet personalities.

    MR, your 15 minutes are approaching.

  388. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Raideroutlawz. Run by some borderline retard named “Bump”. You say anything he doesn’t like, he hacks your profile and says self degrading things under your name. Just childish b.s.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ MaddenRaider…..is that YOU??? lmao

  389. Teabag Says:

    Wanna Be Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    375.Teabag Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
    I don’t even know who the hell RMR is… stop by RaiderOutlawz… I’m there all the time.. Don’t know who this “RMR” you speak of is.

    —————————–

    Hahahahahahahah

    Teabag is MR/RMR

    Dude, you say you are in here all the time? Well you sho as heck know who RMR is or u plain ignorant!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I know who MaddenRaider is…. I am Bump from R Outlawz.

    Look at us as GOOD GUYS. When MR gets baned here…he comes to our spot and gets beat up all the time!!!

    But, we beat up on retarded homers like many of you all the time as well LOL

  390. Sullivan44 Says:

    You know, I have to say, I’m a little offended when you guys say, “I’m not MR”. What’s wrong with being me?

  391. Snort Says:

    385.GG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    This place is better than all Raiders forums imo. There’s too many raider forums, due to internal fracturing and power trips, etc, and it’s a shame really. It would’ve been awesome if there was just one central Raiders forum and no others, where the admins never ban anyone and never have power trips.

    If I created a site, not that i could, don’t have the skills, that’d be my plan – centralize it all and be the only admin so there was never any banning, ego-tripping, and fracturing.

    ———————————————

    That would also make it a troll fest unimaginable.

  392. Sullivan44 Says:

    Bump, you don’t hack accounts and start posting goofy crap under other their names, to tax them for disagreeing with you? You haven’t done that?

  393. Teabag Says:

    I find it funny that Sullivan44 knows that I changed a users name… LOL…. I only did that to one person ever on RaiderOutlawz and that was MADDENRAIDER!!!…..

    Sullivan, do you have something to tell us?

  394. Sullivan44 Says:

    So, you admit you did it, at least in one case. You say your site is all about freedom of speech. But you just admitted you hack accounts if you don’t agree with people. What gives?

  395. priesttj Says:

    You guys need to stop allowing MR and his 19 personalities to cause you to get angry. This is his M.O> come in here find any reeason whatsoever to cause doubt and blame Al Davis for anything he can. If you continue to respond to his anti-Raider anti-coach anti_Al Davis rants then youare at fault.

    Because that is all he lives for…… you give him (breath) when you oppose him.

  396. Sullivan44 Says:

    Len,

    When will Discovery channel have that program about Davis worshipers? They’re a scientific wonder, too.

  397. RaiderLen Says:

    Yo Priesttj,

    What’s the game plan against the Bills?

  398. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    So, you admit you did it, at least in one case. You say your site is all about freedom of speech. But you just admitted you hack accounts if you don’t agree with people. What gives?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I don’t “hack” accounts… I am an admin there. And MaddenRaider got what was coming to him…

    In fact, your rhetoric is EERILY similar to MaddenRaiders… how do I know? I’ve only argued with the dude a MILLION times on the site…

    Again, HOW DO YOU KNOW I changed MaddenRaiders name? He is the ONLY one I did it to.. lol

  399. Teabag Says:

    priesttj Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    You guys need to stop allowing MR and his 19 personalities to cause you to get angry. This is his M.O> come in here find any reeason whatsoever to cause doubt and blame Al Davis for anything he can. If you continue to respond to his anti-Raider anti-coach anti_Al Davis rants then youare at fault.

    Because that is all he lives for…… you give him (breath) when you oppose him.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Sorry, PreistIKnowNothingAboutFootball….

    but there are plenty of other people who agree that Al Davis sucks as well…

  400. Sullivan44 Says:

    Whatever word you want to use then. Commandeer peoples accounts? Is that fair enough? You just admitted you did it, and it’s bush league. Ther’es no freedom of speech when you’re controlling peoples accounts and making them say stupid things just because they owned you in an argument.

  401. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    Len,

    When will Discovery channel have that program about Davis worshipers? They’re a scientific wonder, too.

    ——————————————
    Don’t know, but I’d watch.

  402. Sullivan44 Says:

    Hey guys, ask Teabag aka bump what political party Ron Paul belongs to. lmao.

  403. Sullivan44 Says:

    You don’t have to wait till it’s on the discovery channel, Len. Just have someone film you for a week.

  404. Balls and Nuts O plenty Says:

    :shock: I like big balls

    :shock: If you disagree with me, I still like big balls

    :shock: If you agree with me, I still like big balls

    :shock: Somedays I get picked on, but I like big balls

    :shock: But I do the pickin cuz I like big balls

    U CAN GET A WIGGITY AND A JIGGITY FASHIZZLE WUP WUP

  405. John Tweedy Says:

    Sullipuzy, why do you want peeps to be you?

  406. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Hey guys, ask Teabag aka bump what political party Ron Paul belongs to. lmao.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Madden, when was the last time you got laid…. I am willing to bet it was way before Al’s leprosy started manifesting itself.

  407. Sullivan44 Says:

    teabag aka bump is one of these tea party guys (as his name would indicate), who admires Ron Paul. He didn’t know Ron Paul was a Republican, thought he was an independent. He sat there and argued against it till we had to actually quote news articles identifying him as a republican, and then he acts like he knew it all along.

  408. Balls and Nuts O plenty Says:

    398.Teabag Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    So, you admit you did it, at least in one case. You say your site is all about freedom of speech. But you just admitted you hack accounts if you don’t agree with people. What gives?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I don’t “hack” accounts… I am an admin there. And MaddenRaider got what was coming to him…

    In fact, your rhetoric is EERILY similar to MaddenRaiders… how do I know? I’ve only argued with the dude a MILLION times on the site…

    Again, HOW DO YOU KNOW I changed MaddenRaiders name? He is the ONLY one I did it to.. lol

    —————————————-
    —————————————-
    —————————————-
    —————————————-

    Real interestin folks. Pay attention and read between the lines.

    5 star sch1tt here boys and girls.

  409. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Whatever word you want to use then. Commandeer peoples accounts? Is that fair enough? You just admitted you did it, and it’s bush league. Ther’es no freedom of speech when you’re controlling peoples accounts and making them say stupid things just because they owned you in an argument.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Jeez Madden….. you’re like those goblins in the M Night Shyamalan flick THE VILLAGE… Got these folks traumatized. They think I’m you LMAO…

    *shudders at the thought*

  410. Sullivan44 Says:

    I’m sure you get laid a lot, bump. Especially when you tell the ladies you run a Raiders message board.

  411. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    teabag aka bump is one of these tea party guys (as his name would indicate), who admires Ron Paul. He didn’t know Ron Paul was a Republican, thought he was an independent. He sat there and argued against it till we had to actually quote news articles identifying him as a republican, and then he acts like he knew it all along.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Stop throwing Red Herrings….

    I understand you’re mad because you were blown to shreds many, many times on Outlawz. But please, feel free to relax in your element here. It suits you much better.

  412. Sullivan44 Says:

    “come by and register a screen name. I’ll give you 5,000,000 in gambling cash”. lmfao. They just melt like butter.

  413. priesttj Says:

    Just ignore him and see how mad he gets and then goes away…

    His monikors are Sullivan44, Alex7 and bunch of others anytime you see someone who’s hardcore anti-Al and harps on it based on anything you know it’s him. He’ll sometimes try to suck you in by agreeing with you and then his nature comes out.

    He’s aick human-being who lives off this blog………being a troll. Add KK to this list.

  414. GoodOle00 Says:

    Boredom

  415. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    I’m sure you get laid a lot, bump. Especially when you tell the ladies you run a Raiders message board.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I’d take a life if telling ladies I run a Raiders message board over a life of telling Boy Scouts I troll a Raiders blog.

  416. Sullivan44 Says:

    Bump, you don’t remember that? When you thought Ron Paul was an independent? I’m sure you deleted the threat, but oh my. How vehemently you argued against it, then when proven wrong, acted like you knew it all along. It was a riot.

  417. RaiderLen Says:

    Real interestin folks. Pay attention and read between the lines.

    5 star sch1tt here boys and girls.
    ————————————
    Actually internet nerd drama is pretty boring.

  418. Sullivan44 Says:

    lol. Priest thinks every single Davis critic here is the same person. Yeah, priest, there’s only one person on the planet who hates Davis. I’d say the empty seats at the stadium every sunday proves there’s at least 25,000 people who hate him. What do you think?

  419. RaiderLen Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
    Boredom
    ————————-
    Funny we both posted the same sentiment virtually at the same time.

  420. Doc Hollywood Says:

    This blog needs a time out, or someone to collect the garbage, cuz this place is a stinkin.

  421. Sullivan44 Says:

    Len, nothing says you’re a stud like calling other people nerds on the internet.

  422. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
    “come by and register a screen name. I’ll give you 5,000,000 in gambling cash”. lmfao. They just melt like butter.

    ——————————-
    Sounds like “they” were you. lol

  423. YoungAmerican Says:

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/09/15/re-focused-raiders-broncos-week-1/

  424. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Bump, you don’t remember that? When you thought Ron Paul was an independent? I’m sure you deleted the threat, but oh my. How vehemently you argued against it, then when proven wrong, acted like you knew it all along. It was a riot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You didn’t prove anybody wrong. You begged the question with semantics forever refusing to budge lol. That isn’t winning an argument.

  425. Sullivan44 Says:

    BTW, RaiderOutlawz must be on fire tonight, with GG and Bump being here. What’s the matter? Hill and Jayel awol? Because that’s about the entire membership at Raideroutlawz, right there.

  426. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17

  427. priesttj Says:

    Raiderlen I’d like to see us go after them through the air much more. Their Dline is better but it’s still nowhere near what Denver presented. I’m not at all saying go away from the running game because that is our bread and butter it’s our identity. But hit them deep foreal..

    On defense get after the Fitzpatrick make him move his feet and throw on the run. Get hits on him early and often and he’ll cough-up a few picks.

  428. JB Says:

    priesttj Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    You guys need to stop allowing MR and his 19 personalities to cause you to get angry. This is his M.O> come in here find any reeason whatsoever to cause doubt and blame Al Davis for anything he can. If you continue to respond to his anti-Raider anti-coach anti_Al Davis rants then youare at fault.

    Because that is all he lives for…… you give him (breath) when you oppose him.
    **********************

    Unfortunately this is true. Too bad these Schit-disturbers can so easily distract the valid contributors on this blog. By simply taking the other side of virtually every issue; doing it strictly to stir the pot is really non-productive. We need to show some discipline and not interact with them at all – in other words, don’t feed the monkeys.

  429. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
    Len, nothing says you’re a stud like calling other people nerds on the internet.
    —————————————-
    I’d much prefer to say everything face to face.

    So, I’ll say what I mean, and you can interpret it any way you like.

    Nerd.

  430. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    What’s ridiculous is the fact that Hagan’s not suited up.
    ============================================

    No, what is actually ridiculous is that statement. lst off, the Raiders put their best WR’s on the field that game. 2ndly, Hagan is a 6 year vet with not a lot to show for it. Now, I am VERY high on DH, but the Raiders made the right decisions. Lastly, with the game on the line, and once before, they threw a ball to DHB that iced the game or got a lst down. You might want to check the Cinncy Bunghole fan sight, or possibly Joke-sonville. They need ignorant, uninformed fans just like you.

  431. Sullivan44 Says:

    You guys are incapable of ignoring the Davis criticism, because you know it’s true.

  432. priesttj Says:

    Also I hope they stay with their 4wides because we can play nickle all game and send blitzes at him from every angle. Make him make decisions and accurate throws if he beats us taht way tip your hat to him and get reayd for next week. But IMO we will hit him early and I think he throws us 2 picks at least.

  433. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    BTW, RaiderOutlawz must be on fire tonight, with GG and Bump being here. What’s the matter? Hill and Jayel awol? Because that’s about the entire membership at Raideroutlawz, right there.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    We always on FIYAH, BRO!

    You should know… you’ve been torched enough over there. Stop back in sometime and get FLAMED again.

  434. GG Says:

    There would be issues with having a no ban policy, but to me the #1 thing is all Raiders fans are brethren, and I hate seeing all this fracturing on the internet. Don’t care if there are antagonists like RMR (among others) who just want to talk bad about Davis/raiders etc. Dont care if there are shills who just want to talk great things. The problem is when a site has a certain policy or site creator has a leaning (anti-Davis or pro-Davis) then what happens is fracturing, people getting banned/censored for being a type of raider fan.

    Thing to remember is….since 2002 we’ve been bad, so you’re going to get RaiderNation consisting of 50% anti-Davis and 50% pro-Davis types. Or people who constantly whinge about how bad we are and those who are unrealistically hopeful, and how that leads to so many arguments and clashes between posters that ends up meaning someone gets banned and then their close friends leave/get banned etc.

    My vision is: just one central place, all raidernation, no bias for or against Davis etc. Could even create a pro-Davis sub-board and anti-Davis sub-board so everyone can choose or knows where to go. But keep the whole RaiderNation together, online comrades forever.

    Only I as admin could do that, show no bias and not ban anyone.

  435. Sullivan44 Says:

    Bills looked pretty solid last week, priest. Raiders barely squeaked by a horrible Denver team. Gotta go with Buffalo.

  436. RaiderLen Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
    Raiderlen I’d like to see us go after them through the air much more. Their Dline is better but it’s still nowhere near what Denver presented. I’m not at all saying go away from the running game because that is our bread and butter it’s our identity. But hit them deep foreal..

    On defense get after the Fitzpatrick make him move his feet and throw on the run. Get hits on him early and often and he’ll cough-up a few picks.
    ————————————————
    This sounds as though it plays to our strengths, I like it.

    I’d like to see that play action pay off on some deeper routes.

    Also want to re affirm that stopping the run is priority #1.

  437. Sullivan44 Says:

    GG, I’ll bet you if you did that, the Davis supporters would crash and flame the anti-Davis board more than vise versa.

  438. Teabag Says:

    We let Madden talk bad about Al on ROC @ GG, u know that. But when Madden comes to ROC and realizes that “Bashing Al” isn’t the “Devil’s Advocate” thing to do anymore… he starts finding other bones to troll… And he got ripped to shreds and sent back packing to beat up on the candy village.

  439. priesttj Says:

    You guys see what i mean post #431 he knows he has many of us who cannot help but rebut him and this is what he lives off…

  440. Teabag Says:

    BTW, I say Raiders lose a close one.. After a tough, tough road win.. Short week of prep, flying cross country and even MOAR “dinged up”…..

    Tough to win in that situation on somebody elses turf. We can win though. We are a more talented team.

  441. Sullivan44 Says:

    “yeah, ladies, come on by and register a screen name. Chat in the chat box with me and Jayel. Get some gambling cash. Or, go blog with the candy village over at the IBA blog, if that’s your thing. your choice, ladies…”

  442. RaiderLen Says:

    MR beating up on the candy village. lol

  443. Sullivan44 Says:

    That’s right, Len. Mr. Big bad RaiderOutlawz just called YOU the “candy village”. And that’s just a taste of what you’d get over there. Notice, he ADMITTED he hacks accounts and posts things under other peoples names.

  444. GG Says:

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17

    Add…

    GG Raiders 31 Bills 17

  445. JB Says:

    priesttj Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Raiderlen I’d like to see us go after them through the air much more. Their Dline is better but it’s still nowhere near what Denver presented. I’m not at all saying go away from the running game because that is our bread and butter it’s our identity. But hit them deep foreal..
    ********************

    My take on the O is a little different for this game. I think we really need to get back to basics. Forget the trick plays, at least for the first half. I say we play to our strengths and just beat the crap out of them on the ground. Pound & ground. Wear them down so they won’t even want to come out in the second half. Ball control the clock, minimize their access to the offensive ball and then dazzle them in the second half. There’s nothing more demoralizing to a team then telling them you are going to run at them and then do it successfully time after time – physically wearing the other team out. This will also keep our D fresh so when they do go in there it’s 3 and out.

  446. Teabag Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    “yeah, ladies, come on by and register a screen name. Chat in the chat box with me and Jayel. Get some gambling cash. Or, go blog with the candy village over at the IBA blog, if that’s your thing. your choice, ladies…”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Do you think I’m cute Pvt. Pyle? Do you think I’m funny!!??

  447. priesttj Says:

    RaiderLen The bills are not a lineup and run at you team, they do it with draws and screens. They use their passing game to setup the run. You have to stop the run on the way to the QB, trust me if we get enough hits on Fitz they’ll fold. But we may have to play presscoverage behind it because he’ll be trying to get the ball out quick with short accurate passes we have to force him to throw the ball downfield to decrease his completion % and get picks.

  448. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Gotta go with Buffalo.
    ==========================================

    So, you are going to take a Buffalo team that has not had a winning record since 2004 because a) they won one game and b) they are playing the Raiders? I think that is all any real Raider fan needs to know. You are a moron.

  449. John Tweedy Says:

    DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills

    Raiders 20. Bills 10

  450. Sullivan44 Says:

    How’d it look? Was it hot? Was it sexy?

    (sarah p@lin to Glen Rice, after snorting a line)

  451. priesttj Says:

    JB I don’t disagree with this either as I said it’s our identity.

    ***************************************************
    My take on the O is a little different for this game. I think we really need to get back to basics. Forget the trick plays, at least for the first half. I say we play to our strengths and just beat the crap out of them on the ground. Pound & ground. Wear them down so they won’t even want to come out in the second half. Ball control the clock, minimize their access to the offensive ball and then dazzle them in the second half. There’s nothing more demoralizing to a team then telling them you are going to run at them and then do it successfully time after time – physically wearing the other team out. This will also keep our D fresh so when they do go in there it’s 3 and out.

  452. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour,

    I’m taking a Buffalo team that destroyed the Chiefs last week, and laying on a Raider team that’s been known to dog it after big wins. This is all Bill’s. Bill’s are going to come on strong and psych the Raiders out early. Raiders will trail most of the game. Bills will ice it in the 4th quarter.

    Bills 28, Raiders 17

  453. GG Says:

    Teabag and RMR….yeah i know ROC is the best of the forums for open speech. But as all forums end up becoming very cosy, what happens is cabin fever anyway, people getting on each others nerves, demands for ways to report posts, or people tighter with admin/mods getting sick of someone else, or even people losing debates against others who they dislike and things like hacking accounts, ganging up on them (like RFN) etc etc. Always office politics starts creeping in.

    But imo there are ways to have a legitimately ban-free censorship-free central board that can survive and prosper with the presence of 50:50 anti/pro Davis people.

    Anyway, i just have a huge love for RaiderNation and wish I could bring them all together in one central place.

  454. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    GG,

    Raiders 30 – Bills 23

  455. JB Says:

    Raiders 31 Bills 10

  456. Sullivan44 Says:

    Start the board, GG. I’d join. Just make it to where people can’t hack other peoples profiles, because we know that would be a problem with someone. ugh hum.

  457. Teabag Says:

    GG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Teabag and RMR….yeah i know ROC is the best of the forums for open speech. But as all forums end up becoming very cosy, what happens is cabin fever anyway, people getting on each others nerves, demands for ways to report posts, or people tighter with admin/mods getting sick of someone else, or even people losing debates against others who they dislike and things like hacking accounts, ganging up on them (like RFN) etc etc. Always office politics starts creeping in.

    But imo there are ways to have a legitimately ban-free censorship-free central board that can survive and prosper with the presence of 50:50 anti/pro Davis people.

    Anyway, i just have a huge love for RaiderNation and wish I could bring them all together in one central place.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Hey, you and MaddenRaider have something in common GG… You are both for centralization… Except MR is for it when it comes to schools, banking, healthcare and every other service you can imagine.

  458. GG Says:

    My board creating would be lulz-worthy tho. I love a lot of what the ROC guys have done, they have mad skills. The idea would be just me as admin/site-owner, no moderators, because I would just not infract/ban/etc anyone. I am incorruptible and unbiased, just a group hugger lol.

  459. Sullivan44 Says:

    At least I knew what political party Ron Paul belonged to. Maybe you should learn the basics before trying to discuss advanced politics.

  460. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Seymour,

    I’m taking a Buffalo team that destroyed the Chiefs last week
    ======================================

    Isn’t that EXACTLY what I said? Let’s rewind:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Gotta go with Buffalo.
    ==========================================

    So, you are going to take a Buffalo team that has not had a winning record since 2004 because a) they won one game and b) they are playing the Raiders?
    ===========================================

    You know, even when I was unbelievably over matched, and had no hope, I NEVER thought anyone could beat me. At any level. Only a LOSER would ever think that. In fact that is the very definition of “LOSER”.

  461. Teabag Says:

    Snapple fact #489 – MaddenRaider doesn’t know what “hacking” is.

  462. Raider Bretheren Says:

    Four score and 7 years ago Al Davis brought forth this great team Oakland Raiders concieved in equal opportunity and dedicated to the Commitment to Excellence.

    Now we are engaged in division amongst the ranks, testing the limits of Raider Nation, testing the dedication of the ranks, and it is all together fitting and propper that we do this.

    But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate on these hollowed grounds of Raider Glory Past, to those who have desicrated on this as such, the world will little note, not long remember what we say here. But it is for us the dedicated remaining and our unfinished work that we have strived to nobly achieve, the great task before us, the last full measure of devotion, that our fandom has not been in vain, we must get out to the games and support our team, the Oakland Raiders, and support Al Davis and his quest for another Lombardi.

  463. J-Raider Says:

    gotta say raiders win this one by 13..

    Raiders-33
    Bills-20

  464. RaiderLen Says:

    I’m nostradomi… sizing a score.

    Raiders 20
    Bills: 13

  465. GG Says:

    I think this is up to date….

    —-

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    GG Raiders 31 Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    JB – Raiders 31 Bills 10
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    John Tweedy – Raiders 20. Bills 10
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 – Raiders 30 Bills 23
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–

  466. priesttj Says:

    JB
    I’m not sure I would necessarily call Hues O trick plays because it is who he is. I call it a dynamic offense which makes teams prepare all day trying to get a handle on how to defend us. This multi-set offense is cutting edge stuff, innovative to a degree. No one will go into a game saying this is what they do outside of the running game this offense will spread you out and hit you hard with speed and versatility.

    It’s damn scary to think of the overall potential this offense presents we scored 23 points and had a BAD GAME. Just think of how far we’ve come from Kiffin’s run run pass PUNT!! boring offense. This stuff got a lot of attention on MNF. When it explodes on teams it will scare the crap out of the league…….trust me.

  467. GG Says:

    Ok updating more…

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    GG Raiders 31 Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    JB – Raiders 31 Bills 10
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    J Raider – Raiders 33 Bills 20
    John Tweedy – Raiders 20. Bills 10
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderLen – Raiders 20 Bills 13
    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 – Raiders 30 Bills 23
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–

  468. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour, I’m not playing in this game. So why would I need to have a mentality that I’m going to win? I’m watching the game, not playing in it.

  469. rob_raider Says:

    i re-watched the game, like i always do. i watched every play about 10 times, watching every player. here’s the review:

    o-line:
    there are 3 good players here. for all u cooper-bashers, just shut it b/c ur showing ur ignorance. the guy is a technician. a pro’s pro. he’s undoubtedly our best lineman. not a mauler, but his man almost never makes the play. he scraps and scraps, leads his man away from the play, etc. grades out very high, 90% plus.
    veldheer is very good. occasionally makes a mistake but for the most part locks onto his man and takes care of business.
    wiz is pretty good. makes some rookie mistakes but he’s tenacious and gets after it. locks on and works. a poor man’s version of his uncle at this point but he’s good.
    barnes did okay. some mistakes and doesn’t always make the block but pretty good.
    heyer is hit and miss. just okay really.
    satele is awful. occasionally will make a nice play but way too often whiffs. he loves to dive for a cut block when he should go lock on. he is the weak link.

    rb:
    dmc is fantastic. period. bush is very good. i don’t care if some announcer says reece is a good blocker, he’s horrible at it. just goes and reaches out to push. never locks on his man. blocks like a former wr.

    wr:
    jacoby apparently was rusty/nervous. but he will be in the gameplan in a lot of ways. dhb has some issues but is coming along.

    te:
    myers isn’t very good at blocking. gets used a lot. boss will be great to get back. gordon likes to try to chip-block w/ his shoulder. not great.

    qb:
    so-so for jc, but no real mistakes which is good. we basically abandoned the pass b/c we could run so well. didn’t throw the deep ball well.

    dl:
    fantastic! seymour’s effect can not be overstated. stands at the line talking to to the others. the front 4 are dominant. shaugnessy is a speed/power beast. constant pressure. played very stout against the run. backups also played well. big news is moss, while not doing much in the rush, really played the run well. he is improving bigtime.

    lb:
    can’t believe how much better they are playing, especially groves! did i just say that? he is really playing well. taking excellent angles and playing strong at the point of attack. mcclain played mush better too. still a few poor reads but overall getting very good. and wimbley played well too. no sacks but his pressure forced the issue many times, disrupting the play.

    cb:
    routt made some nice plays. look, he is not namdi. but that’s not the point. he plays pretty well. cj gave a few up but also played nice at times. dvd did okay too. porter is not good. his coverage is weak.

    s:
    huff and branch are really good. run support is great too. giordano goes from last guy to make the roster to being very big. plays like his job depends on it and plays smart. great addition. boyd is a work in progress. makes some great plays but also some bad ones. has a hard time changing directions in coverage and overpursues at times in run defense. mitchell will be a welcomed addition.

  470. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour, are you playing Sunday? Are you the real Richard Seymour? lmao. What’s with the can do attitude? You’re not playing.

  471. priesttj Says:

    raider brethren …….amen!

  472. rob_raider Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Gotta go with Buffalo.
    ==========================================

    So, you are going to take a Buffalo team that has not had a winning record since 2004 because a) they won one game and b) they are playing the Raiders? I think that is all any real Raider fan needs to know. You are a moron.

    ******************

    exactly. especially the moron part.

  473. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Seymour, I’m not playing in this game. So why would I need to have a mentality that I’m going to win? I’m watching the game, not playing in it.
    ==========================================

    You wouldn’t, but the players who actually ARE playing would. You are basing your facts on the point that they won ONE game, and they are playing the Raiders. That is what you are basing your decision on. I am saying they are not a winning franchise over the last 6 years, and there is not one player flying to Buffalo on the Raiders Charter Friday that thinks they cannot win this game. Not one.

  474. Sullivan44 Says:

    Seymour, I’m pretty sure all 53 Raiders think they can win Sunday. That’s their job. The problem is, there’s 53 Buffalo players who think they’ll win, too. And I think the odds are in Buffalo’s favor. So I’m calling it Buffalo.

  475. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Kam’s going to have a big game vs the Bills.

  476. JB Says:

    TJ – I understand your point and don’t disagree. I did question his first call to Ford. Players often need to settle down and get into the game before they start the greatest show on turf. Having Boss back for this game will be BIG. It should enhance our passing game by 200%.

    I’m re-watching the game now, maybe see you all later.

  477. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Just finished watching “inside the nfl” and these guys are a joke! No respect to the Raiders, I mean I understand that most mainstream media heads do not like this organization, but jeez! I can’t wait until this young squad gels and is disciplined enough to BLOW TEAMS UP!

  478. rob_raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Seymour, I’m pretty sure all 53 Raiders think they can win Sunday. That’s their job. The problem is, there’s 53 Buffalo players who think they’ll win, too. And I think the odds are in Buffalo’s favor. So I’m calling it Buffalo.

    ***********************

    buffalo is a 3 point favorite. just like denver was last week.

  479. priesttj Says:

    Rob_Raider I have a few disagreements with that #469 post while Reece is not a meathead I think what he brings to the table is soo damn exceptional as a playmaker it is well worth his lack of blocking skill which in fact is better than last year. You cannot take a playmaker like him out of your lineup. I have NEVER seen a FB with his skillset. Just accept the fact he’s not a meathead and move-on just way too much ability playmaking wise to ignore.

  480. RaiderLen Says:

    You wouldn’t, but the players who actually ARE playing would. You are basing your facts on the point that they won ONE game, and they are playing the Raiders. That is what you are basing your decision on. I am saying they are not a winning franchise over the last 6 years, and there is not one player flying to Buffalo on the Raiders Charter Friday that thinks they cannot win this game. Not one.
    ————————————
    Truth!

    These guys have pride, and BIG ego’s.

    They wanna lay it down on the Bills, just as the Bills do.

    Let the better team win.

    I think the Raiders are the better team.

  481. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Seymour, I’m pretty sure all 53 Raiders think they can win Sunday. That’s their job. The problem is, there’s 53 Buffalo players who think they’ll win, too. And I think the odds are in Buffalo’s favor. So I’m calling it Buffalo.
    ———————————
    If AL were dead, would you call it that way?

  482. Sullivan44 Says:

    I didn’t say Buffalo would blow them out. I just think Buffalo will ring Campbell’s bell early one way or another pick, forced fumble, and the Raiders will will trail from that point on. Buffalo will put the nail on the coffin in the 4th quarter and go ahead by 2 scores.

  483. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    GG Raiders 31 Bills 17
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    JB Raiders 31 Bills 10
    John Tweedy Raiders 20. Bills 10
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderLen Raiders 20 Bills: 13
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3!
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Raiders 30 – Bills 23
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17

  484. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    The Bills are not weak but a more disciplined attack should yield us the close W. I am sure we sill be able to run the ball down their throat and open some space for our receivers to get open and make plays. DISCIPLINE FIRST!

  485. Sullivan44 Says:

    Discipline First?

    No more “build a bully”, huh? lol

  486. Sullivan44 Says:

    Welcome to the NFL, Hue.

  487. Seymour Bush Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Seymour, I’m pretty sure all 53 Raiders think they can win Sunday. That’s their job. The problem is, there’s 53 Buffalo players who think they’ll win, too. And I think the odds are in Buffalo’s favor. So I’m calling it Buffalo.
    ===========================================

    If Buffalo is a 3 point favorite, basically the 3 points is for home field. I did not watch the Boofalo-Kansas Shi**y game, so I cannot speak about their 2011 team. I am impressed they rolled the Cheats. Good for them. Something tells me the Oakland Raiders are going to sh on show up on their door steps on Sunday. I am going to side with the Oakland Raiders.

  488. RaiderLen Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
    Discipline First?

    No more “build a bully”, huh? lol
    ——————————————-
    How is that contradictory to building a bully?

  489. Sullivan44 Says:

    Goodnight, vatos.

  490. rob_raider Says:

    i didn’t say i didn’t like reece. i like him a lot. he’s a weapon. he’s just really a 6-3 240 wr. his blocking is slightly better than last year but it still consists of reaching out and whiffing, just kinda getting in the way of the defender briefly. he would be awesome if he would just either learn how to block or give it some effort.

    but he’s a very good receiver from the fb spot and he runs it pretty well too.

    they are starting to use myers and gordon as fb’s more so it might be ok. they were using that weird 3-back alignment several times, where myers and either gordon or reece were split behind the qb and dmc was in a deep tb position. creative.

  491. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Sullivan44,

    In the NFL you have to be a DISCIPLINED BULLY to Win more than lose. We have a YOUNG, TOUGH, and HUNGRY squad who CAN ball, but have shown some immaturity and lack of discipline. When we fix the issues we WILL be a playoff bound team.

  492. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Sullivan44,
    In the NFL you have to be a DISCIPLINED BULLY to Win more than lose. We have a YOUNG, TOUGH, and HUNGRY squad who CAN ball, but have shown some immaturity and lack of discipline. When we fix the issues we WILL be a playoff bound team.

  493. Seymour Bush Says:

    They are using Reece quite differently than you would use a normal FB. This started last year with Cable and Hue. They are using Reece as another weapon, not just as a hammer. Seems to work well actually.

  494. ghostraiders Says:

    Sullivan 44..
    In. My book you are officialy a Raider hater..
    you idiot…

  495. Raider Bretheren Says:

    474.Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Seymour, I’m pretty sure all 53 Raiders think they can win Sunday. That’s their job. The problem is, there’s 53 Buffalo players who think they’ll win, too. And I think the odds are in Buffalo’s favor. So I’m calling it Buffalo.

    ———————-

    You are wrong. You would like to think the odds are in Bufoonalos favor, but they are not. Think about it:

    Raiders have a balanced run game that will eat the bills lunch

    Raider D is aggressive. Only thing I dont want to see is the prevent a win D

    Special teams are very good

    And we have the fastest WR unit in the NFL.

    HueJack is legit and means business.

    The buffalo 53 might think they can win, but the Raiders have 53 guys they know can win.

  496. rob_raider Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
    I didn’t say Buffalo would blow them out. I just think Buffalo will ring Campbell’s bell early one way or another pick, forced fumble, and the Raiders will will trail from that point on. Buffalo will put the nail on the coffin in the 4th quarter and go ahead by 2 scores.
    *************************
    and this is based on what? their awesome 4-12 record last year? against oakland’s 8-8? or based on 1 game that you didn’t watch. they didn’t do that much offensively. kc just sucked.

    the bills had the 24th ranked offense last year. they had the 24th rated defense last year. dead last against the run! hmm. maybe the raiders will have some success running on them, do u think?

  497. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Raider D-Line should dominate this game. Bills didn’t see crap vs KC. Don’t get me wrong, every game is tough, but I really like this matchup in our favor.

  498. rob_raider Says:

    there is one and only one thing buff has going for them. the whole short week/travel to an east coast early game thing. that’s it.

  499. HueKnows Says:

    The only reason I like when that hater post is so I can read the real facts in rebuttal.
    Just wish I didn’t have to read his too.

  500. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    Our O barely scratched the surface Monday, I think we all know we’ll open it up more and more as the season progresses. I’m excited to see what happens.

  501. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    #495- SPOT ON! The Bills looked good against the Chiefs BUT WHO DOESN’T!? Last year WE sure did! Sullivan44 is used to losing and now seems to enjoy it UNLIKE our 2011 Oakland Raiders who are kids that WANT TO BALL!!! Old men move aside the NEW Raiders are YOUNG, HUNGRY, and TOUGH! Each side of the ball has a player who will punch, lower shoulders, stiff arm, and Smack the ISH out of whoever, I LOVE 2011 Raiders!

  502. Seymour Bush Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    there is one and only one thing buff has going for them. the whole short week/travel to an east coast early game thing. that’s it.
    ==================================================

    I have a very funny feeling that the Oakland Raiders will be there, whenever Boofalo wants, to punch those Boofalo Bill clowns in the grill.

  503. RaiderLen Says:

    RaideredoutL.A. Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
    Our O barely scratched the surface Monday, I think we all know we’ll open it up more and more as the season progresses. I’m excited to see what happens.
    ——————————–
    There’s an awful lot to work with.

    I hope they can get it all dialed in sooner rather than later.

  504. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Seymour Bush, do get the feeling I get in my post#501? I think this squad will do whatever it takes to win, I know we have a rough road and will experience growing pains but I see Hue’s VISION and it’s not far down the tunnel!

  505. Seymour Bush Says:

    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Seymour Bush, do get the feeling I get in my post#501?
    ===============================================

    Well, there is a lot of work to do. That’s the bad news. The good news is there seems to be some really really nice pieces in place. I like Dmac. He is an absolute superstar. I really like Mike Bush. Talk about a complete player. The WR corp is much better than anyone realizes. DHB is going to be just fine. Don’t worry about that guy.
    All of a sudden, the Oline looks good. Very good. Veldheer and Wiz 2.0, Satele, and the Right side are GOOD.
    And I don’t think I need to say anything about the defense or the Special Teams. They seem to speak for themselves.

  506. SharkCatcher Says:

    I took this from the bills blog
    ———————–
    Posted 13 September 2011 – 12:21 PM

    Ok, so I braved the late night game and watched the Raiders closely, and I have a few thoughts on what we need to do to beat them. IN no particular order.

    1. Pressure Campbell – We should be able to do this effectively = win
    2. Plug up the holes inside with Our DT’s and win the edge – McFadden runs more for the edge than inside and this is where we need to stop him = win/loss
    3. Dicipline – Raiders looked young and undiciplined last night, and this is a big plus for us, if we stay as diciplined as in the KC game. = win
    4. TE’s will be big in this game as they were in KC. Move the ball around and we will be fine = win
    5. One on one our CB’s match up well with the Raiders, WR’s. This will give us a lot more options with strong nickle packages. = win
    6. Solid tackling will win the day. = win
    7. Turnovers. Keep them down, and we = win

    I didn’t see anything last night from Oakland that particularily scared me, other than the Reece/McFadden combo, but I think we have the personell that can take them on. We just need to execute.

    My predicition is a Bills win. 27 – 14
    Bills 2 – 0 Vs. New England!
    ———————–
    Ill wait for your replies

  507. Breaking News [RAIDER BLOG NEWS] al davis haters have no leg to stand on / davis is going to prove haters wrong as he fields unbelievable team this season Says:

    :mrgreen: [...............................]

    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    []haters turning angry [..] sees Raider team on the rise [..] don’t want [] Raider success

    niners are gay [..] if the Oakland Raiders played the ga-niners in regular season this year, they would win

    [RAIDERS] on the up swing and haters are going bonkers

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    Attention Haters:

    Oakland 41

    Buffalo 17

    [..] mack on that……………….or if slurping is your choice, slurp on that.

  508. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Seymour,

    Agree 100%. I’m just excited about the competitiveness and heart we showed to go along with the togetherness this squad seems to have, we are not quite the polished team to jump into the top 5 or top 10, YET but we have the pieces to make run at the AFC west title as long as we stay disciplined and play smart.

  509. Breaking News [RAIDER BLOG NEWS] Oakland will go into buffalo and dominate / Raiders will emasculate the bills and the bills know it.......... Says:

    :mrgreen:

    Raiders will emasculate bills in front of home town crowd.

    :mrgreen:

    :mrgreen: haters can slurp on that :mrgreen:

  510. PlunkforHOF Says:

    JB Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
    priesttj Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    You guys need to stop allowing MR and his 19 personalities to cause you to get angry. This is his M.O> come in here find any reeason whatsoever to cause doubt and blame Al Davis for anything he can. If you continue to respond to his anti-Raider anti-coach anti_Al Davis rants then youare at fault.

    Because that is all he lives for…… you give him (breath) when you oppose him.
    **********************

    Unfortunately this is true. Too bad these Schit-disturbers can so easily distract the valid contributors on this blog. By simply taking the other side of virtually every issue; doing it strictly to stir the pot is really non-productive. We need to show some discipline and not interact with them at all – in other words, don’t feed the monkeys.

    ##########################################

    JB..is working it out as The Voice of Reason. Obviously the Mods here have no desire to do the right thing which would be Ban the Trolls. Which means you have to scroll thru miles of self-indulgent crap and sissified slap fights. Still, among all of that there are wise words and humor from the semi-pro bloggers. But I agree with JB that the most effective way to frustrate the trolls is to not give them the satisfaction of even noticing them.

  511. Scrotum O Plenty Says:

    506.SharkCatcher Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
    I took this from the bills blog
    ———————–
    Posted 13 September 2011 – 12:21 PM

    Ok, so I braved the late night game and watched the Raiders closely, and I have a few thoughts on what we need to do to beat them. IN no particular order.

    1. Pressure Campbell – We should be able to do this effectively = win
    2. Plug up the holes inside with Our DT’s and win the edge – McFadden runs more for the edge than inside and this is where we need to stop him = win/loss
    3. Dicipline – Raiders looked young and undiciplined last night, and this is a big plus for us, if we stay as diciplined as in the KC game. = win
    4. TE’s will be big in this game as they were in KC. Move the ball around and we will be fine = win
    5. One on one our CB’s match up well with the Raiders, WR’s. This will give us a lot more options with strong nickle packages. = win
    6. Solid tackling will win the day. = win
    7. Turnovers. Keep them down, and we = win

    I didn’t see anything last night from Oakland that particularily scared me, other than the Reece/McFadden combo, but I think we have the personell that can take them on. We just need to execute.

    My predicition is a Bills win. 27 – 14
    Bills 2 – 0 Vs. New England!
    ———————–
    Ill wait for your replies

    ===================================================

    WOW. Has RMR/MR fingerprints all over it.

  512. Seymour Bush Says:

    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 normally the biggest improvement of football teams happen between games one and two. If we can continue to see improvement week in and week out, in all aspects of the game, I have a feeling we will be just fine.

  513. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I should have said both Priest and JB.

  514. Try Some Reality Says:

    So did you guys hear about the Raiders appealing the distance on Jano’s kick? They say it was 64 yards.

  515. Scrotum O Plenty Says:

    514.Try Some Reality Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    So did you guys hear about the Raiders appealing the distance on Jano’s kick? They say it was 64 yards.

    ———————

    Look at the spot of the ball. It was 64 yards and the NFL knows it.

  516. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I did read that somewhere. Fat chance of the NFL ruling in the Raider’s favor.

  517. Try Some Reality Says:

    “They stayed pretty true to it. If you break it down, it probably still wasn’t very good, but if you attack that big, long run at the end, which was a pivotal play of the game, that helped their totals.”

    ————————

    Haha! Look at Fox making the same crappy argument I’ve heard in here on many occasion. “If you remove that long run…” LOL

  518. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Seymour Bush, that is what excites me, watching this squad develop into a real contender, no more fodder, just a tough nosed team who will scratch, kick and bite for a W, figuratively speaking of course.

  519. RaiderRetribution Says:

    There was pressure on the Raiders to win the season opener against Denver:

    1) It was Mr. Hue Jackson’s first game as head coach of the Raiders, following Cable who went 6-0 last year in the AFC West;

    2) Raiders needed and wanted to keep the winning streak within the division going;

    3) Raiders seem to ride their season on the first game;

    4) Raiders are thinking playoffs and beyond and know every game counts;

    5) Raiders lost one all-pro and two other starters and needed to prove they could win together without them.

  520. Seymour Bush Says:

    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29, excellent point. That is the real fun part of sports: watching players turn into champions right before your eyes. And the best part is some of them have absolutely no business being there in the first place and they suck it up and do what it takes and end up champions! It’s fun to watch.

  521. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    There was pressure on the Raiders to win the season opener against Denver:

    1) It was Mr. Hue Jackson’s first game as head coach of the Raiders, following Cable who went 6-0 last year in the AFC West;

    2) Raiders needed and wanted to keep the winning streak within the division going;

    3) Raiders seem to ride their season on the first game;

    4) Raiders are thinking playoffs and beyond and know every game counts;

    5) Raiders lost one all-pro and two other starters and needed to prove they could win together without them.
    ______________

    And this will fuel their desire to win! This team is not the Raiders of old who would crumble from the lack of confidence, we don’t lack the hunger, we just need to tighten the bolts and get train these kids to study, practice, study. The BULLY IS NEAR..

  522. RaiderRetribution Says:

    That pressure will not be there in Buffalo;

    Raiders will be more loose as well as aggresive; therefore…
    The Raiders will be more disciplined; not false start and or go offsides;

    Raiders will sack Fitzpatrick more times than they did Orton;

    Raiders proved there defense could hold a lead and their offense could get first downs in the last minutes of the 4th quarter to secure the victory.

    Raiders will put Buffalo away early.

    Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3

  523. RaiderRetribution Says:

    RDRS you said it: desire, confidence, hunger, study practice

  524. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Seymour, and that is what this organization has always represented, and I am ecstatic to see that attitude and mystique materializing in this squad under the watch of Hue Jackson.

  525. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders game against Buffalo almost as important as a divisional game;

    Raiders would not only be 2-0, 1-0 in the division, Raiders would be 2-0 in conference [AFC] play, (which is far more important than road wins).

    San Diego faces NE, Denver & Kansas City have already lost, Raiders could be alone atop the AFC West.

  526. ghostraiders Says:

    If jano kicked it from the 46 yard line. … it was definitely
    ..64 yards

  527. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    RR you are correct on all points. Hue just needs to keep these boys in the film room and focused on the next opponent because this group can surprise a lot of people and be something special. The road ahead is long and hard (thats what she said) but behind our backs and D-line we can march to the promised land.

  528. SharkCatcher Says:

    I hope Nick Miller takes one to the house. I need to HATE this guy a little bit less!

  529. SharkCatcher Says:

    ” I’m PRISON MIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT TEAM ALL THE GUYS IN PRISON LIKE? THE RAIDERS..DA RAIDERS” Blame rdrsshw bush 29 for the Michael Scott reference.

  530. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    SharkCatcher, 100% true! The kid just hasn’t shown much of anything as of late.

  531. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    You caught that didn’t you!?! hahaha Gonna miss good ole Mr. Scott, don’t know how long the show will make it with out him.

  532. SharkCatcher Says:

    Did Campbell or Barksdale get any reps in game #1. I know the “ugliest guy on the team Heyer” got some reps..That boy is BIG!

  533. SharkCatcher Says:

    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
    You caught that didn’t you!?! hahaha Gonna miss good ole Mr. Scott, don’t know how long the show will make it with out him.
    ————
    It’s like the RAIDERS Wihtout Al Davis…. ” The Unknown”

  534. KoolKell Says:

    Buffalo put up 41 pts, last week. I know it was turnovers & short fields.

    But, so was the Raider game, and they only put up 23.

    Gnite Gents.

  535. SharkCatcher Says:

    good way to bring me down Kell..slap me in the face ..turn off the lights and say goodnight lol

  536. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Here is an interesting take on the NEW Oakland Raiders from the LA Times.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/09/bill-plaschke-oakland-raiders-need-some-brain-with-their-brawn.html

  537. SharkCatcher Says:

    We did get extreamly lucky on the Orton Fumble….

  538. SharkCatcher Says:

    YOU’RE FROM L.A bUSH 29?

  539. SharkCatcher Says:

    MR Is Bill Plaschke and Jimmy Hoffa is under the Jets stadium on the 50 yard line.

  540. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    RR, EXACTLY! As meddling as he is and as ridiculous some of the moves the old man has made, we need him, he is just as hungry and fierce as the young players we have on our roster. This NEW team and HC embodies everything Al Davis ever was and still is @ the age of 82.

    “Just win baby”- Al Davis

  541. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    SharkCatcher, I live in Ontario, about 35 mi east of the City.

  542. GG Says:

    To date….

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    Breaking News – Raiders 41 Bills 17
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
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    J Raider – Raiders 33 Bills 20
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    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Raiders 24 Bills 0/ Oakland 28 Bills 27 Which one?

  543. RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 Says:

    Plaschke is a square LOL comparing us to thugs and street fighting baboons LOL Now I can agree we showed our arse on MNF with all those stupid penalties and any of the top 5 squads prolly would’ve wiped clean with the yards we gave up on penalties BUT come on! We are better than a lot of pundits want to believe.

  544. GG Says:

    Btw, if the spot was the 46 yard line that means it’s 63 yards.

    It’s always 17 yards + spot of the ball.

    10 yards endzone + 7 yards where the holder holds the ball.

    I’m not sure if the LOS was spotted on the 46 or 47. But it’s always 17 + where the LOS is spotted.

  545. Yamacan Man Says:

    542.GG Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
    To date….

    Week #1 ghostraiders 1 everyone else 0
    —————————————————————————
    860Todd Christensen Raiders win 31/13
    Breaking News – Raiders 41 Bills 17
    CanuckRaider Raiders 24 – Bills 13
    Carl Weathers Raiders 51-3 Bills
    Don Manoukian Raiders 28-14
    EM (could find your score)
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Raiders 27-17
    fingers Raiders 27…. Bills 17
    GG Raiders 31 Bills 17
    guest123 Raiders 24, Bills 13
    ghostraiders raiders 27.. Buffalo 21
    HueKnows 31-17 RAIDERS!!!
    JB – Raiders 31 Bills 10
    J Hill Raiders 27 Buffalo 13
    J Raider – Raiders 33 Bills 20
    John Tweedy – Raiders 20. Bills 10
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 23 Buffalo 20
    MiamiRaider78 Oakland 30 Buffalo 14/ If not, we still win 28-17. Which one?
    Mikedlopes 38 – 10 Raiders
    morilla Raiders 28 – Bills 20
    O Oakland 27 Bills 10
    PlunkforHOF Raiders-31 Buffalo Gals- 17
    r8dercain -> Raiders 30 Bills 17
    RaiderLen – Raiders 20 Bills 13
    RDRSshwYOURBUSH29 – Raiders 30 Bills 23
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 24 – Buffalo 3
    RaiderRockstar Raiders win 34-17
    raiderzmaverick Raiders 27 Bills 17
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 33 The Bills 13
    SilverNBlackPA Oakland 44 – Buffalo 13
    Sullivan44 Bills 28, Raiders 17
    The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31, Billy Goats 9
    Yamacan Man Oakland 28 Bills 27

  546. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Raiders 27 – buffalo 17

  547. rob_raider Says:

    the raiders vs. the world—just the way i like it! just win baby!

  548. hendu Says:

    Raiders 17-Buff 13

  549. morilla Says:

    Any link to the yardage dispute?

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