Coach Hue Jackson delves into WR Hagan issue
By Steve Corkran
Friday, September 16th, 2011 at 1:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Coach Hue Jackson was asked Friday why wide receiver Derek Hagan was inactive against the Denver Broncos in the regular-season opener.
Well, let’s just say that Jackson has been waiting for an opportunity to respond to those who questioned the decision and called him on his repeated preaching about performance-based play.
First, let’s give Jackson the microphone since he, obviously, has yearned for the chance to fire away at his critics (in the interst of full disclosure, yes, I was one of the most vocal).
“OK, let me, because this has come up several times, about Hagan,” Jackson started. “I just said Hagan’s done a great job and, obviously, he was our leading receiver in the preseason, right? But I never once said he’s the best receiver on our team. I never once said that.”
For the record, no one quoted Jackson as saying Hagan is the best wide receiver on the team. Back to Jackson.
“What he did in the preseason gave him an opportunity to be on this football team,” Jackson said. “It did not make him the starting receiver on this football team. So, let’s make sure we understand where I was with Hagan.”
Where Jackson stood was on firm ground about those who performed best in training camp and exhibition games would be rewarded with playing time. He uttered this stance numerous times.
Hagan caught 12 passes for 224 yards and one touchdown in Oakland’s four exhibition games. He outplayed every receiver on the roster, though it’s important to note that Jacoby Ford, Louis Murphy and Chaz Schilens missed some or all of the four games.
Moving on, Jackson said there’s a role for Hagan on the team. That will be defined by Jackson as he learns more about his roster.
“Now, if he gets an opportunity this weekend, he gets an opportunity,” Jackson said. “But I get to make that decision. Nobody else. Me. So, everybody else who thinks I was supposed to put him out there because he was our leading receiver in the preseason, forget that we had other guys that have been very good receivers on this team.
“So, I get to make that decision. That’s the decision I made last week and on we go. Now, if he plays this week, he plays.”
At that point, I reminded Jackson that the media takes their cues from what he says, and that Jackson said playing time would be performance-based.
To which, Jackson replied:
“Yeah, but here’s the deal,” Jackson said. “You said that ‘performed the best.’ No doubt, but we had some other guys that hadn’t practiced that I’ve seen perform in games and make big plays, i.e. Jacoby Ford. So, you guys were like, I’m supposed to sit him down, sit Jacoby Ford down, and let this kid play.”
Um, coach, no one said that that I am aware of. It would be easy to make a case for Hagan playing ahead of Schilens, rookie Denarius Moore and Game 1 starter Darrius Heyward-Bey, though.
Let’s not get in the way of Jackson’s rant. He’s not through yet.
“No, that’s not where I was,” Jackson said. “So, let’s make it clear about what that was. That was for him to get on the team. Performance is what matters, and that’s what got him on the team. That’s where it starts first. Then, he has to continue to perform and beat some of these guys out and then he’ll play. That’s the way it works.”
So, there you have it. What Hagan did in practice and exhibition games was good enough to get him a spot on the 53-man roster. For him to play in a game, he’s going to have to do even more in practice.
*Nick Miller is one of the more versatile players on the Raiders roster. That, more than anything, played into his making the 53-man roster each of the past two seasons.
All his talents just might be on display Sunday against the Bills, given injuries to wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey and kick returner Jacoby Ford.
Miller’s primary role is that of punt returner. However, he also is a backup receiver and one of several options on kick returns. He performed all three in practice Friday.
Jackson would not say who is going to return kicks Sunday. Rookie Taiwan Jones and veteran Rock Cartwright also lined up on kick returns during practice Friday.
Jones declined comment in the locker room, saying he had to shower before boarding the plane.
*The Bills turned in, perhaps, the most-impressive showing of Week 1 by rolling into Arrowhead Stadium and rolling up the defending AFC West champion Kansas City Chiefs 41-7.
Mind you, the Chiefs are quite difficult to beat at home, even when they aren’t in the midst of a successful season. The Raiders pulled off the feat last season.
Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly has a message for the Bills, lest they get too caught up in their season-opening victory.
“It caught everybody’s attention around the league,” Kelly said. “Anytime you can go on the road and have a victory like that, that’s going to open up a lot of people’s eyes. But the thing about the NFL is, that happened last week. You’ve got to do the same thing this week. So whatever they did is a nice, impressive victory. Bu they’ve got to come and deal with us now. And we ain’t the Chiefs.”
*The Raiders received some encouraging news Friday with the return of defensive tackle Richard Seymour and free safety Michael Huff. Both missed practice Wednesday and Thursday.
Seymour is battling sore ribs. Huff strained his groin against the Broncos. Their return Friday makes it likely that they intend to play against the Bills. However, they are listed as questionable, which equates to a 50-50 chance of playing in NFL injury report lingo.
Seymour no doubt wants to play. He has more sacks against the Bills (7) than any other team during his long, illustrious NFL career.
Huff said in the locker room that he intends to play, no doubt.
*Jackson said Murphy (groin) and backup safety Mike Mitchell (knee) also are out for the Bills game. Both players said they are targeting the New York Jets game Sept. 25 for their return from injury.
Defensive tack
*Tight end Kevin Boss made it through his third straight practice this week without any setback from the left knee injury he suffered against the 49ers on Aug. 20.
“It’s definitely improving each day,” Boss said. “I’m looking forward to getting back out there and playing some football again.”
*Running back Michael Bush received huge props for his starring role in helping the Raiders close out their 23-20 victory over the Broncos.
Some people are taking to calling him the closer.
“I don’t consider that a role,” Bush said. “It’s something that needed to be done. The line did a great job. It’s was something that we did. We were practicing on it. We just had to move the chains, and we got it done.”
When reminded that closers get paid top dollar, Bush said: “I’ll take it.”
He said he also is aware of the fact that people always seek to label players as something or other.
“Something that comes with the territory,” Bush said. “I’m always getting labeled as something. So, if (everybody) wants to give me that, I’ll take that, too.”
Jackson said he views Bush as more than just a late-game specialist.
“I’m not going to say he’s the closer,” Jackson said. “There’s a couple of things, whether it’s Darren (McFadden) or him, that I know they have a good feel of doing. At the time, there are a couple of things that I’d seen that I thought would give us an opportunity to finish the game.
“You always keep a couple things in your back pocket when you need them the most, and I thought this young man would run those particular plays very well. So that’s why he was there.”
*Here’s the full injury report, in Jackson’s words:
“Ford, did not practice, and he is out, OK? Heyward-Bey, did not practice, and he’s questionable. Murphy, did not practice, he is out. (Stephon) Heyer, limited, questionable. McFadden, full, probable. Boss, limited, questionable. (Jason) Campbell, full, probable. (Jarvis) Moss, full, probable. Seymour, limited, questionable. Huff, limited, questionable. (Chris) Johnson, full, probable. Mitchell, did not participate, he is out. (Joe) Porter, full, probable.”
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September 16th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Management
September 16th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
#1
September 16th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
209.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
“linked telepathically”
Remember when Cartmen tried to fly and fell and became psychic?
Have you fallen lately B@uce?
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HAHAHA my god dude u killin me
September 16th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Management
September 16th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
You mean straight from Al’s mouth to Hue, then straight from Hue’s mouth.
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Per Al’s mandate
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I stand corrected…
September 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Vegas…Mistic and BHP just like Al dont wanna be proven wrong about DHB
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Like you were about Tonga?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
211.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
My god Mistic….no the other WRs have no built any damn equity worth a fk when we were 23rd in passing
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sorry bra, the stats are pedestrian, but stats are for fantasy football, and the guys in the locker room dont care about that at all. Unless you prove that you are head and shoulders better there is no way hu jack can simply promote this dude based on two pre season games. it isnt enough to outweigh the last two years or the early returns from this year.
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no the WR play was not good at all……DHB hasnt shown he is head and shoulders above anyone so you are contradicting yourself…..the guys care about winning and having the best players on field. Hue needs to promote him based on DHB not being starter worthy
September 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
6.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Vegas…Mistic and BHP just like Al dont wanna be proven wrong about DHB
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Like you were about Tonga?
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I never have been proven wrong on that….otherwise they would have flat out cut him you dummy. Reece gets hurts guess who is elevated….dumb phaggot Duecedumb
September 16th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Raiders!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
CODE MUFUGGIN BLACK!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
BigTed707 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
MUPdates: WK 01
Giordano = 8pts (4 for INT, 3 for FF, and 1 pass defense)
CJ37 = 3pts (2 for for than 4 tackles, and 1 pass defense)
DHB = 2pts (2 for first-downs)
Wiz II = 1pts (4 for no sacks allowed, -3 for false start)
Barnes = 1pts (4 for no sacks allowed, -3 for false start)
Heyer = -8pts (-2 for sack allowed, -6 for false start)
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I can’t wait for my boy Denarious to sky rocket up the list after a 46 yd TD this weekend in buffalo!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Cork getting under HueJack’s skin…lol..
September 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
6.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Vegas…Mistic and BHP just like Al dont wanna be proven wrong about DHB
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Like you were about Tonga?
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I never have been proven wrong on that….otherwise they would have flat out cut him you dummy. Reece gets hurts guess who is elevated….dumb phaggot Duecedumb
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Are you 12? Legitimate question.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Cork getting under HueJack’s skin…lol..
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Sounds like Hue’s a little under Corks too..lol
September 16th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/653357/
This is where Mystic1 goes wife shopping!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
If you ever have to call someone derogatory names on the INTERNET your life is a failure.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
11.HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
BigTed707 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
MUPdates: WK 01
Giordano = 8pts (4 for INT, 3 for FF, and 1 pass defense)
CJ37 = 3pts (2 for for than 4 tackles, and 1 pass defense)
DHB = 2pts (2 for first-downs)
Wiz II = 1pts (4 for no sacks allowed, -3 for false start)
Barnes = 1pts (4 for no sacks allowed, -3 for false start)
Heyer = -8pts (-2 for sack allowed, -6 for false start)
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I can’t wait for my boy Denarious to sky rocket up the list after a 46 yd TD this weekend in buffalo!
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Play action out of one back set I bet if that happens…i can totally see it going down
September 16th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
So whatever they did is a nice, impressive victory. But they’ve got to come and deal with us now. And we ain’t the Chiefs.” – Maaaaaan, this got me so damn hype reading that! Best quote of the season by far!
Let’s get ‘em Nation…
Rack ‘em
September 16th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
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I can’t wait for my boy Denarious to sky rocket up the list after a 46 yd TD this weekend in buffalo!
This is Schilens Moore and Hagans chance to shine and I think they will
September 16th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
16.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
If you ever have to call someone derogatory names on the INTERNET your life is a failure.
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Yawwwwwnnnn as if a mental midget looking like McLovin from Super Bad is the person who determines this lmao
September 16th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
“OK, let me, because this has come up several times, about Hagan,” Jackson started. “I just said Hagan’s done a great job and, obviously, he was our leading receiver in the preseason, right? But I never once said he’s the best receiver on our team. I never once said that.”
“What he did in the preseason gave him an opportunity to be on this football team,” Jackson said. “It did not make him the starting receiver on this football team. So, let’s make sure we understand where I was with Hagan.”
“Now, if he gets an opportunity this weekend, he gets an opportunity,” Jackson said. “But I get to make that decision. Nobody else. Me. So, everybody else who thinks I was supposed to put him out there because he was our leading receiver in the preseason, forget that we had other guys that have been very good receivers on this team.
“So, I get to make that decision. That’s the decision I made last week and on we go. Now, if he plays this week, he plays.”
“Yeah, but here’s the deal,” Jackson said. “You said that ‘performed the best.’ No doubt, but we had some other guys that hadn’t practiced that I’ve seen perform in games and make big plays, i.e. Jacoby Ford. So, you guys were like, I’m supposed to sit him down, sit Jacoby Ford down, and let this kid play.”
“No, that’s not where I was,” Jackson said. “So, let’s make it clear about what that was. That was for him to get on the team. Performance is what matters, and that’s what got him on the team. That’s where it starts first. Then, he has to continue to perform and beat some of these guys out and then he’ll play. That’s the way it works.”
So, there you have it. What Hagan did in practice and exhibition games was good enough to get him a spot on the 53-man roster. For him to play in a game, he’s going to have to do even more in practice. – hu jack
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exactly like i said, me and HU jack in lock step!!!
HU jack has a locker room he must be accountable to and playing a guy because he is the flavor of the month isnt how you keep the team in check. no matter what blog readers say
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
13.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
6.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Vegas…Mistic and BHP just like Al dont wanna be proven wrong about DHB
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Like you were about Tonga?
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I never have been proven wrong on that….otherwise they would have flat out cut him you dummy. Reece gets hurts guess who is elevated….dumb phaggot Duecedumb
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Are you 12? Legitimate question.
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The depth of a 12 year old’s comment would be a significant upgrade for you
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
You have to let him play before he can show you anything. I’m sure he can show you how he can keep a bench warm. Back tracking car salesman double talk HueJack.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I love Hue’s energy, But I have to say after reading this article there was some serious backpeddling going on! Don’t lose your “Cred” Huey!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
16.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
If you ever have to call someone derogatory names on the INTERNET your life is a failure.
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Yawwwwwnnnn as if a mental midget looking like McLovin from Super Bad is the person who determines this lmao
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wow.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Back tracking car salesman double talk HueJack.
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lol jinx
September 16th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
21.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
“OK, let me, because this has come up several times, about Hagan,” Jackson started. “I just said Hagan’s done a great job and, obviously, he was our leading receiver in the preseason, right? But I never once said he’s the best receiver on our team. I never once said that.”
“What he did in the preseason gave him an opportunity to be on this football team,” Jackson said. “It did not make him the starting receiver on this football team. So, let’s make sure we understand where I was with Hagan.”
“Now, if he gets an opportunity this weekend, he gets an opportunity,” Jackson said. “But I get to make that decision. Nobody else. Me. So, everybody else who thinks I was supposed to put him out there because he was our leading receiver in the preseason, forget that we had other guys that have been very good receivers on this team.
“So, I get to make that decision. That’s the decision I made last week and on we go. Now, if he plays this week, he plays.”
“Yeah, but here’s the deal,” Jackson said. “You said that ‘performed the best.’ No doubt, but we had some other guys that hadn’t practiced that I’ve seen perform in games and make big plays, i.e. Jacoby Ford. So, you guys were like, I’m supposed to sit him down, sit Jacoby Ford down, and let this kid play.”
“No, that’s not where I was,” Jackson said. “So, let’s make it clear about what that was. That was for him to get on the team. Performance is what matters, and that’s what got him on the team. That’s where it starts first. Then, he has to continue to perform and beat some of these guys out and then he’ll play. That’s the way it works.”
So, there you have it. What Hagan did in practice and exhibition games was good enough to get him a spot on the 53-man roster. For him to play in a game, he’s going to have to do even more in practice. – hu jack
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exactly like i said, me and HU jack in lock step!!!
HU jack has a locker room he must be accountable to and playing a guy because he is the flavor of the month isnt how you keep the team in check. no matter what blog readers say
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Translation…its outta my hands and I gotta please the Boss
September 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I love Hue’s energy, But I have to say after reading this article there was some serious backpeddling going on! Don’t lose your “Cred” Huey!
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He basically said the truth. Hagan should be thankful he has a job in the NFL. He could be where Chad Jackson is now.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I love Hue’s energy, But I have to say after reading this article there was some serious backpeddling going on! Don’t lose your “Cred” Huey!
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He basically said the truth. Hagan should be thankful he has a job in the NFL. He could be where Chad Jackson is now.
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You and I both now that’s not the point.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
*know
September 16th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Glad most people see Hue backpeddling.
If you didn’t mean guys would get “playing time” based on performance, then don’t say it.
He said it.
Al nixed it.
Hue reversed his field.
Chaz wasn’t 100%, Moore was running sloppy rookie-jitter routes. No way Hue thought they were better than a veteran with soft hands, sharp routes, who proved himself throughout August.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I love Hue’s energy, But I have to say after reading this article there was some serious backpeddling going on! Don’t lose your “Cred” Huey!
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He basically said the truth. Hagan should be thankful he has a job in the NFL. He could be where Chad Jackson is now.
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You and I both now that’s not the point.
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What exactly is the point? He had a good preseason. Ok. Only reason he was signed was we had a string of injuries at WR and needed a body. He forced his way on the roster. Good for him
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
31.alex7 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Glad most people see Hue backpeddling.
If you didn’t mean guys would get “playing time” based on performance, then don’t say it.
He said it.
Al nixed it.
Hue reversed his field.
Chaz wasn’t 100%, Moore was running sloppy rookie-jitter routes. No way Hue thought they were better than a veteran with soft hands, sharp routes, who proved himself throughout August.
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Fact
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
-BHP’s MUP List-
01rdrfan ; D.Moore – WR
18yearsold18yearfan ; CJ37 – CB
1960Raider ; Stefen Wisniewski – OL
504 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
666 ; DVD – CB
8RaiderReign8 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
909 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Albert Bigelow Paine ; Chaz Schillens – WR
Alex7 ; Joe Barksdale – OL
(PS)Armond ; Sterling Moore – CB
**B@uce ; Giordano – DB
Bcz24 ; D. Moore – WR
(X)Big Fan ; W. MacFadden – CB
*BigTed707 ; Ricky Brown – OLB
Bob Marley ; Desmond Bryant – DT
(X)Born w/a Patch ; Ware – CB
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
BSJ ; Taiwan Jones – RB
*Carl Weathers ; T.Scott – DE
CarolinaRaider ; D.Moore – WR
CJ Legend ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(X)CODEBLACK2011 ; Zac Ethridge – DB
(IR)Codigo Negro ; T. Goethel – LB
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
*Da Trinity ; Wiz 2.0 – OL
Deathrow 55 ; DVD – CB
(X)Deja Vu ; Ware – CB
Demon Raider ; Denarius Moore – WR
DIRT-LOT ; DHB – WR
DMAC ; Bruce Campbell – OL
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
DonManoukiansNeighbor; D.Hagan – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
EMRaiders ; D.Moore – WR
Exlaraiderseasinticketholder ; Denarius Moore – WR
*FarEastRaider ; T.Jones – RB
Fear_the_eyepatch ; Chaz Schilens – WR
(PS)GaterRaider ; Sterling Moore – DB
(X)GatorRator ; Bryson Kelly – FB
Guest123 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Ghostraiders ; Hagan – WR
Guy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
HairyBush ; Denarius Moore – WR
HayesDaze37 ; D.Moore – WR
*Hueknows ; Chaz Schillens – WR
HGDaddy ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
J-Raider ; Barksdale – OL
JB ; D.Moore – WR
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; DHB – WR
JLofty ; D.Moore – WR
(X)Just Win Baby ; Trent Edwards – QB
(X)KoolKell ; Stevie Brown – S
(X)LA Raider Dave ; Stevie Brown – S
LA to TheBay ; Denarius Moore – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
*LMN ; Jarvis Moss – DE
*Lowdown_in_Beijing ; Heyer – OL
LTR ; DHB – WR
*M Lonetree ; Stephon Heyer – OL
Marios ; Barksdale – OL
Mcthompso ; Big John Henderson – DT
Meeze ; MM34 – S
Midwest Fan ; Trevor Scott – DE
(X)MississipRaider ; Zac Ethridge – DB
Mistic1 ; Barksdale – OL
Mum-O-Killowe ; Trevor Scott – DE
No Mas Diamante ; DVD – CB
Noteasilyimpressed ; R.Gordon – TE
0ak_R8Dr89 ; T. Pryor – QB?
PatchedUp ; D.Moore – WR
Pirate Beard ; Chimdi Chekwa – DB
PlunkforHOF ; Chaz Schilens – WR
Priest ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Purvisman ; DHB – WR
R8dercain ; Taiwan Jones – RB
R8er Mike ; Stephon Heyer – OL
R8eray ; Joseph Barksdale – OL
(X)Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderDogg ; DeMarcus Van Dyke – CB
RaiderDuck ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raider E ; Khalif Barnes – OT
RaideredoutL.A ; Derek Hagan – WR
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Denarius Moore – WR
Raider J ; D. Moore – WR
Raiderjambo ; D.Moore – WR
Raiderjhawk ; D. Moore – WR
*Raiderman99 ; Carson Palmer – QB
(X)RaiderRetribution ; Ben Lamaak – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
Raidertalk ; John Henderson – DT
Raidertbone ; Barksdale – OL
Raiderzmaverick ; Chaz – WR
Realtruraider ; DHB – WR
(PS)Redneck Raider ; Sterling Moore – CB
Redshirt ; Derek Hagan – WR
*RFL ; Jerome Boyd – S?
Ryan ; Hagan – WR
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
SharkCatcher ; MM34 – S
**Severe ; Chaz – WR
*SilverAndBlackBleeder ; DVD – CB
SilverNBlackPA ; T.Jones – RB
SilverNutSack ; DHB – WR
Smells Like Beechum ; Jarvis Moss – DE
SnB ; Chaz – WR
SR Raider ; D. Moore – WR
TBRaiders ; D.Moore – WR
The Big Banana ; T. Jones – RB
Thec07 ; Taiwan Jones – RB
TheGeneral ; DVD – CB
Try Some Reality ; Denarius Moore – WR
Twocents ; Desmond Bryant – DT
*YoungAmerican ; Barkesdale – OL
Zymurge ; Bruce Campbell – OL
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
32.DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I love Hue’s energy, But I have to say after reading this article there was some serious backpeddling going on! Don’t lose your “Cred” Huey!
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He basically said the truth. Hagan should be thankful he has a job in the NFL. He could be where Chad Jackson is now.
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You and I both now that’s not the point.
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What exactly is the point? He had a good preseason. Ok. Only reason he was signed was we had a string of injuries at WR and needed a body. He forced his way on the roster. Good for him
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And will force himself into the starting lineup as our X wr
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
why is hagan the only guy this blog wnats to leap frog his competition based on the pre season?
Should jarviss moss move ahed of houston, he had more sacks in the pre season?
Should sterling moore, move ahed of cj, he certainly did more int the pre season than cj did, and cj had a down year last year?
GUys these are pros, and you have to prove it on the field, hagan was a late addition and didnt have a chance to really do enough to unseat the guys that have been here doing it.
promoting this cat out of nowhere simply would fly in that locker room.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I love Hue’s energy, But I have to say after reading this article there was some serious backpeddling going on! Don’t lose your “Cred” Huey!
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He basically said the truth. Hagan should be thankful he has a job in the NFL. He could be where Chad Jackson is now.
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You and I both now that’s not the point.
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What exactly is the point? He had a good preseason. Ok. Only reason he was signed was we had a string of injuries at WR and needed a body. He forced his way on the roster. Good for him
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post 31 took the words out of my mouth.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
And DueceDumb definitely shows is lack of sense…Hagan would get picked up immediately if he was cut…..how stupid can you be?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
OMG, weak.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
24 receptions better than 200 yards in 4 games last year mean nothing either for Hagan, your right. He probably doesnt even deserve to be on an NFL squad. Seriously?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
36.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
why is hagan the only guy this blog wnats to leap frog his competition based on the pre season?
Should jarviss moss move ahed of houston, he had more sacks in the pre season?
Should sterling moore, move ahed of cj, he certainly did more int the pre season than cj did, and cj had a down year last year?
GUys these are pros, and you have to prove it on the field, hagan was a late addition and didnt have a chance to really do enough to unseat the guys that have been here doing it.
promoting this cat out of nowhere simply would fly in that locker room.
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Houston plays LDE…Moss RDE…..big big difference in responsibilites plsu Lamar is versatile
We know DHB and other WRs arent possession guys I know you wont admit it but you even know better
September 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Hey Jackson: what’s Schilens done the last two years bro?
How you like that string coming out the back of your neck?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I am not the coach or the owner, but I hope that Hagan does get a shot to get on the field Sunday!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
MUP?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
39.ohioraider Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
OMG, weak.
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Weak would be an upgrade….this is sad
September 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
42.ohioraider Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Hey Jackson: what’s Schilens done the last two years bro?
How you like that string coming out the back of your neck?
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LMAO
September 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
what’ll be funny / sad is if Hagan goes out there and lays an egg due to blog pressure
September 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Kudos to Corkran for not taking the spin at face value. Nice try, Steve!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I think the biggest thing that has people flying off the handle about hagan is that he didnt get to dress. N Miller is not better than Hagan. Time will tell on Hagan once Schilens gets hurt for the season and he gets his change, it will happen
September 16th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
due to blog pressure
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LMAO!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
43.hwnrdr Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I am not the coach or the owner, but I hope that Hagan does get a shot to get on the field Sunday!
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Yeah all of us SANE people do as well
September 16th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
47.alex7 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
what’ll be funny / sad is if Hagan goes out there and lays an egg due to blog pressure
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Will never happen…thats DHB
September 16th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
but i also understand that miller returns punts, although Hagan did well as gunner in preseason so he has value there as well.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
What should I put on my sign as I sit in the front row at Buffalo this weekend?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
54.HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
What should I put on my sign as I sit in the front row at Buffalo this weekend?
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CODE BLACK
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
PublicRaider Nation-Station
NOW!~ 09-16-11: Weak D and Depth could mean less Moore
He could, but odds and circumstance are against a Moore week 2 break out
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
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I could be wrong but I think I’d like to see more Moore than Miller…
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Obviously!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Raiders 31, Bills 20. Dmac, 175 rush, 50 receiving. Boss big debut for raiders. Dline gets another 5 sacks.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
# HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
What should I put on my sign as I sit in the front row at Buffalo this weekend?
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Start Tebow!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Anyone got a pic of Corkran? I have to see what this burr in Hue’s saddle looks like….
September 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
The Oakland Raiders have talked about wanting to get back to their old school days. Their road grader offensive line has adopted that approach and Marcell Dareus can see it on tape.
That’s why going in the Bills know at times they’re going to have to keep their cool.
“They’ll fight every play and they’ll fight every down,” said Dareus. ”The offensive lineman like to give a little extra after the play, so we have to be prepared for that, have our heads in the game. Not so much thinking about just the moment, but thinking about the game.”
also with Troup Doubtful, Kellen Heard gna get plenty of playing time against us
September 16th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Now you guys don’t have to listen to me and doubt my every word you can now doubt Hue Jackson………thanks for listening!!!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I think “CBS” is broadcasting the game
C-ode black 11′
B-low out the bills
S-iver n’ Black 4 life
September 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
cork get’s props for pulling that answer out of Hue
September 16th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Now the only people sane are the fans………..LOL
You guys are so damn full of yourselves it’s ridiculous……….Now Hue jackson is insane. OK!
There you have it!!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Cork asked the hard questions
September 16th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Love it. Love hue. Go raiders.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
36.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
why is hagan the only guy this blog wnats to leap frog his competition based on the pre season?
Should jarviss moss move ahed of houston, he had more sacks in the pre season?
Should sterling moore, move ahed of cj, he certainly did more int the pre season than cj did, and cj had a down year last year?
GUys these are pros, and you have to prove it on the field, hagan was a late addition and didnt have a chance to really do enough to unseat the guys that have been here doing it.
promoting this cat out of nowhere simply would fly in that locker room.
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Houston plays LDE…Moss RDE…..big big difference in responsibilites plsu Lamar is versatile
We know DHB and other WRs arent possession guys I know you wont admit it but you even know better
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I think you get my point though bra, should moss start over shaugnessy? No.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Hue Jackson is full of chit!
September 16th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Hagan not playing is ALL AL…. there is no question.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
what if hagan was suddenly promoted, but stunk it up? HU jack then would be forced to go back to guys he demoted based on two pre season games, and would loose the team.
It would be foolish
September 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
It is porposterous for anyone to think a 4-5 year vet wr would just come inn and start over about 4 young wrs who are starting to really progress within the raider organization (dhb, murphy, ford, and shillens).. If he was that good wouldnt he be starting for someone else. i like the guy but everyone pump your brakes. I know alot of u are not sold on Dhb but the kid works hard and he is getting better each year, and plus this kid(hagan) balled in preaseason and we have seen plenty preseason warriors who did nothing when reg season start. i totally agree with Jackson and i cant believe his words are getting taken out of context, and why people believe Al is behind this, i just dont understand some my fellow Raider Nation.. LETS GO BEAT THE BILLS
September 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
“what if hagan was suddenly promoted, but stunk it up? ”
What if I won the Lottery?
What if we did not drop a bomb on Japan?
What if you actually got a life?
September 16th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
What should I put on my sign as I sit in the front row at Buffalo this weekend?
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WE’RE NOT THE CHIEFS!
WE’RE THE BIG BAD SILVER&BLACK!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
63.HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I think “CBS” is broadcasting the game
C-ode black 11′
B-low out the bills
S-iver n’ Black 4 life
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HOLY schit you da man!!!…Do that SCHIT! You will be on TV without a doubt!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
# HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
What should I put on my sign as I sit in the front row at Buffalo this weekend?
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Obviously!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
68.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
36.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
why is hagan the only guy this blog wnats to leap frog his competition based on the pre season?
Should jarviss moss move ahed of houston, he had more sacks in the pre season?
Should sterling moore, move ahed of cj, he certainly did more int the pre season than cj did, and cj had a down year last year?
GUys these are pros, and you have to prove it on the field, hagan was a late addition and didnt have a chance to really do enough to unseat the guys that have been here doing it.
promoting this cat out of nowhere simply would fly in that locker room.
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Houston plays LDE…Moss RDE…..big big difference in responsibilites plsu Lamar is versatile
We know DHB and other WRs arent possession guys I know you wont admit it but you even know better
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I think you get my point though bra, should moss start over shaugnessy? No.
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Shaughnessy? You mean a productive player who even made plays in preseason?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
@hairybush
And you guys are hanging on every word he says, everything he says is not gospel, and Hue is still learning this media thing, you can tell he doesnt want to let the media inn on errthang..
September 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Don’t trip man it’s the typical whenever I don’t get what I want I can always blame Al Davis for meddling………….LOL
That card gets played whenever their favorite player gets no run. A Davis is meddling………..why root for Al Davis’ team then go root for teh whiners………..BYE!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Stack the box This has to be the approach, Campbell is shaky and the starting WR’s for Oakland are a joke with Jacoby Ford out.
comment from random cat on Buff blog, they are about as rough on JCambpell as some ppl are in here
September 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
#60: This ain’t an internet dating site!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Still waiting to see Nick Miller make a play.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
“what if hagan was suddenly promoted, but stunk it up? ”
What if I won the Lottery?
What if we did not drop a bomb on Japan?
What if you actually got a life?
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dumbass, i asked a legit question. this is a reason you cant simply promote a guy out of nowhere. If you knew anything about sports you would know that
You say i dont have a life but your constantly jocking me!
You are my biggest fan/stalker
TRICK
September 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Lil Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
It is porposterous for anyone to think a 4-5 year vet wr would just come inn and start over about 4 young wrs who are starting to really progress within the raider organization (dhb, murphy, ford, and shillens)..
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What’s “porposterous” is your suggestion that Schilens has done anything in the last two years to warrant his protected status. And nobody’s saying Hagan should start, only that his deactivation reaked of you know who’s meddling.
Jackson got completely exposed by Corkran.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Lil Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
It is porposterous for anyone to think a 4-5 year vet wr would just come inn and start over about 4 young wrs who are starting to really progress within the raider organization (dhb, murphy, ford, and shillens).. If he was that good wouldnt he be starting for someone else. i like the guy but everyone pump your brakes. I know alot of u are not sold on Dhb but the kid works hard and he is getting better each year, and plus this kid(hagan) balled in preaseason and we have seen plenty preseason warriors who did nothing when reg season start. i totally agree with Jackson and i cant believe his words are getting taken out of context, and why people believe Al is behind this, i just dont understand some my fellow Raider Nation.. LETS GO BEAT THE BILLS
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REALLY PROGRESS????
DHB had ONE good game…
Schilens??? he has REGRESSED… Murphy too..
u are deluded man
September 16th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
65.priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Now the only people sane are the fans………..LOL
You guys are so damn full of yourselves it’s ridiculous……….Now Hue jackson is insane. OK!
There you have it!!
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Huh?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Nick Miller is a liability returning punts.
Aside from one nice catch last season against the Broncos, he has shown nothing as a WR.
So why is he active on Sundays when a more productive player in Derek Hagan is not?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
79.priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Mistic1 Don’t trip man it’s the typical whenever I don’t get what I want I can always blame Al Davis for meddling………….LOL
That card gets played whenever their favorite player gets no run. A Davis is meddling………..why root for Al Davis’ team then go root for teh whiners………..BYE!
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Al should meddle at times….its his fking team…dont do it to where it doesnt fully benefit us is all
September 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Lil let me explain it to you sir as I see it. People by in large are very selfish they wnt what they want no matter what the expense is to someone else.
They like this kid a lot and because THEY like him they want to COACHES to like him so THEY can see him play. They’re not at practice don’t have a clue what goes on there yet they know better.
It’s just plain old selfish behavior simple as that. Give me what I want NOW!!!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
BHP any way to answer for your blatant lie earlier about JC never talking about Hagan?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Nice post 85.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
89.priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Lil let me explain it to you sir as I see it. People by in large are very selfish they wnt what they want no matter what the expense is to someone else.
They like this kid a lot and because THEY like him they want to COACHES to like him so THEY can see him play. They’re not at practice don’t have a clue what goes on there yet they know better.
It’s just plain old selfish behavior simple as that. Give me what I want NOW!!!
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Mirror management BHP
September 16th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I think there will be more pass attempts this week, so more opportunities for whoever plays. I don’t understand all the hard ons for Hagan and all the reamings for DHB. DHB worked with Soup in the offseason and has alot more chemistry with him. Now if we can get the deep ball to lead the recievers we might have some big plays. They’re all Raiders and I want them to do well.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
“You are my biggest fan/stalker”
No you are just the one blogger on this site who says the dumbest things.
How am I supposed to get entertainment value out of this BLOG unless I read and respond to your babble.
Come on man you are way too easy to laugh at with your myopic point of view on every subject then claim that you are somehow telepathically connected to Hue Jack.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
I for one wasnt asking Hagan to start, but to get a shot in 3 and 4 wr sets, especially with Murphy out, I do think his play warranted that. I do worry about his words in the media hurting his chance with the Raiders this year, and I do think he could be a contributer to our team.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Buffalo – 21
Oakland – 13
September 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I think Hagan deactivated was pretty puzzling/sad…
“We know DHB and other WRs arent possession guys I know you wont admit it but you even know better”
But isn’t that what Al, Al and Hue want to try to do with DHB?
Did DHB run any possession receiver routes in the preaseason?
Or did he run his typical go routes?
Like they were trying to keep the routes he run secret/stupid?
I really don’t know, but have been wondering for some time.
Please educate me…
September 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I love to get Father Pride & Poise hyperventilating on here. Makes my day.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Inoneword,
smart posters. They know they need to stack the box and make JC beat them with deep throws.
Can JC do that? History’s not on his side, but will be fun if he does.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
72.Lil Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
It is porposterous for anyone to think a 4-5 year vet wr would just come inn and start over about 4 young wrs who are starting to really progress within the raider organization (dhb, murphy, ford, and shillens).. If he was that good wouldnt he be starting for someone else. i like the guy but everyone pump your brakes. I know alot of u are not sold on Dhb but the kid works hard and he is getting better each year, and plus this kid(hagan) balled in preaseason and we have seen plenty preseason warriors who did nothing when reg season start. i totally agree with Jackson and i cant believe his words are getting taken out of context, and why people believe Al is behind this, i just dont understand some my fellow Raider Nation.. LETS GO BEAT THE BILLS
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Good post, I Don’t understand why so many people think Hagan is our best WR, I think it is a knee jerk reaction kind of like the people who fell in love with Bruce Grad, and the people who now think Giodarno should start over Huff. smh
September 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Ohioraider
Nice post #84
September 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
B@uce what’s up baby boy!!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Hue,
So why bother having pre season games just decide your roster based on draft status or your favorite scholarship player.
FK’ing retarded statement by coach, obviously
September 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
CODE HAGAN BABY!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
If I could get my way TJ would be returning punts and Kicks while Ford is down. He would also play WR while Ford is down I would replace Ford with TJ. If I had my way Carlisle would be benched for Bruce Campbell. If I had my way Barksdale would be playing more. If I had my way I would run the draft next year me and big Al.
It aint my way or else DHB wouldn’t even be a Raider………..Sedrick Ellis would be. We don’t get to get our way because if we did this team would be a MESS…………period
September 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
You guys ever see that Youtube clip of the gay guy crying
“Leave Brittney Alone!”
He feels like he is somehow connected to Brittney Spears and is defending her.
That reminds me of Mystic1 “Leave Hue Jack Alone!”
September 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
The following is for Dvrick who goes around changing the wording of previous posting. It’s not the thing to do, dude.
584.Hagar the Horrible Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Dvrick…post #533:
Loss all respect for you dude. You’re low life and the bottom of the barrow. And, surely don’t appreciate you “changing what I’ve posted,” but them you’re probably some young fool who knows nothing about respect and about the things you don’t do in life.
MY POST WAS AS FOLLOWS:
349.Hagar the Horrible Says:
September 15th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
I went on the Bills official website to see what they were expounding on their upcoming game with us. They’re talking us seriously…that’s for sure. They have a 2:38 segment on DMC and Bush where they show us running the ball effectively, along with some comments from Merriman and Kirk Morrison. They were both respectful and gave our runners much respect.
You changed my post to the following:
533.dvrick Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Hagar the Horrible Says:
September 15th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
I went on the Bills official website to see what they were expounding on their upcoming game with us. They’re talking us down like the joke we are…that’s for sure. They have a 2:38 segment on DMC and Bush where they show how bad we actually are!No BULLY this week!
I’d appreciate if you don’t do that again. Grow up and try to learn respect toward others.
You need to get off this blog and post with the dischargers, you’re obviously not a Raiders fan.
You need to be banned from this site.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Lil let me explain it to you sir as I see it. People by in large are very selfish they wnt what they want no matter what the expense is to someone else.
They like this kid a lot and because THEY like him they want to COACHES to like him so THEY can see him play. They’re not at practice don’t have a clue what goes on there yet they know better.
It’s just plain old selfish behavior simple as that. Give me what I want NOW!!!
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Let me explain it how I see it…..It has long been rumored Al is way too hands on with his franchise. And personnel moves come down to his final word.
Hue say EXPLICITLY the best players will play…
Hagan was HANDS DOWN BY FARRRRRRRRR the best WR in exhibition… and arguably the best player period..
What is the problem with calling a spade a spade?? If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish….It must be a FISH!!
Even more importantly…. what is wrong with holding Hue accountable for what he said on record???
September 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Nice post MistaBrown!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Secondary concerns
WR isn;’t the opnly depleted position
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_2011
September 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
RealtruRaider great handle by the way, if they had their way Grads would our starter right now. Steve Brown would be here and Matt Giordano wouldn’t have made that pick. Because he wouldn’t be on the team………….they’re great fans aren’t they?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
“You are my biggest fan/stalker”
No you are just the one blogger on this site who says the dumbest things.
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thats funny i posted my thoughts on hagan and his role for this team, then a story is written quoting hu jack saying exactly what i had written.
So how is what i said dumb?
You on the other hand have never been proven right even once! In fact you routinely get your a$$ handed to you speaking out of turn and clearly have no clue.
now back to your hookers, and get off my nuts
September 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
111.priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
RealtruRaider great handle by the way, if they had their way Grads would our starter right now. Steve Brown would be here and Matt Giordano wouldn’t have made that pick. Because he wouldn’t be on the team………….they’re great fans aren’t they?
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Nah, if I had my way Davis would be getting physical therapy full time down in Florida. Then everything else would take care of itself.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
You guys ever see that Youtube clip of the gay guy crying
“Leave Brittney Alone!”
He feels like he is somehow connected to Brittney Spears and is defending her.
That reminds me of Mystic1 “Leave Hue Jack Alone!”
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only you watch that kind of gey ish
stop telling on yourself
September 16th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Speak for yourself num nuts, you are nothing more than a 60 yr old man in a cheer leading uniform, complete fraud and derelict.
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# priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
We don’t get to get our way because if we did this team would be a MESS…………period
September 16th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Well this is an unfortunate development. I’m on record of bring a Hue fan but I can’t sat I enjoyed his backpedaling today. Folks in here are laughably talking about Hue losing the team if he played Hagan and he stunk it up. How about losing the team for flip-flopping and not staying true to your word?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Thanks SeymourGlenn.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Nice post MistaBrown!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Hue, you just pissed away the majority of respect I had for you. Obviously speaking.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Cork is trying to stir things up, I guess he got tired of there being no drama this year in camp. I miss Jerry, I wonder what his take is on this situation
September 16th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Mystic1 watching you trip over your words and backpedaling all day is very entertaining to me.
So keep it coming!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Cain! sup bruh! man im chillin at the job site bout to get off early hit a happpy hour or three…feel me? Gonna be talkin schit bout them Raiders
September 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
MistaBrown
Why is it that whenever I say something nice to you or attempt to be nice you take a dig at me.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
119.realtruraider Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Cork is trying to stir things up, I guess he got tired of there being no drama this year in camp. I miss Jerry, I wonder what his take is on this situation
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You’ve got to be kidding.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
YES! I appreciate SC asking the questions that needed to be asked. Too bad Baby Huey got all defensive and angry. I watched the presser and I have to say, the more I listen to Baby Huey, the less I like him. He just needs to get this team ready to WIN on Sundays and all will be good!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Fk Jerry Mac
September 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Obviously
September 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
666Glen,
Calling you by your aliases is a dig?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
The Judge Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
YES! I appreciate SC asking the questions that needed to be asked. Too bad Baby Huey got all defensive and angry. I watched the presser and I have to say, the more I listen to Baby Huey, the less I like him. He just needs to get this team ready to WIN on Sundays and all will be good!
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He should have just said that he has his reasons and moved on. Really is unfortunate that he chose to respond in the manner that he did.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I think “CBS” is broadcasting the game
C-ode black 11′
B-low out the bills
S-iver n’ Black 4 life
NICE!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Dude I told you many times I have one Moniker for 6 years in here.
If I had many I would be loud and proud about it.
So yeah it is a dig.
Are you going to be at the Jets game with B@uce?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
So Hue says, “I get to make that decision. Nobody else, me.”
Was Jackson standing in front of a black curtain when he said that? Is that why nobody noticed Al’s hand up his butt?
At the beginning of the off season it sounded like Hue was gonna make his own decisions and stand his ground against the old man if he had to.
Now, he’s sounding more and more like another one of Al’s puppets. Too bad.
And Steve says, “Nick Miller is one of the most versatile players on the Raider’s roster.”
Seriously Steve? Which Nick Miller have you been watching?
Al got his hand up your butt too?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
ilverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Mystic1 watching you trip over your words and backpedaling all day is very entertaining to me.
So keep it coming!
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beating your a$$ in here daily isnt much fun for me, too easy, no challenge.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Calm down Hue
How dare people hold you to what you say. I thought Ford was rusty and demonstrated that on fumble and almost botched toss. Then he comes up with hammy issues. Maybe he should have been eased back in.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Who plays is not based entirely on the preseason games, nor should it be. Production in practices carries plenty of weight also. As well as previous years production. And nobody on this blog knows what’s happening during practices. I trust the coaches more than any cheerleader here rooting for they think should play.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
i agree i think they put too much emphasis on ford and he came up small. early season jitters maybe. I dint think force feeding him was a good call
September 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
# LTR Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Who plays is not based entirely on the preseason games, nor should it be. Production in practices carries plenty of weight also. As well as previous years production. And nobody on this blog knows what’s happening during practices. I trust the coaches more than any cheerleader here rooting for they think should play.
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exactly what i have been saying &
exactly what hu jack said
Ill take him at his word 7 leave the conspiracy stuff to alex jones and goeorge noory
September 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
priesttj mentions if us “fans had our way” the team would be a mess (as if it hasn’t been already the last 8 years).
What do you guys think?
If we had our way, wouldn’t we have Larry Fitzgerald in here (instead of Gallery), no Jamarcus Russell (trade down!), and BJ Raji or any other WR from that awesome class instead of DHB?
Me thinks we’d be doing ok.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“beating your a$$ in here daily isnt much fun”
You mean beating your meat in here daily is no fun….just go to fat chicks in bikinis dot com you will find true love and stop being such a angry old man.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Steve ~ Did you ask Hue the obvious question, “Who decided Heyward-Bey is the starter, you or Al Davis?”
September 16th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
But mistic, LTR,
we DID take him at his word. Hue was the one constantly praising Hagan about his on-field practice performance, his study habits, and his game performance.
Suddenly he’s no better than Nick Miller, Moore, or Chaz at 80% health? Odd.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“beating your a$$ in here daily isnt much fun”
You mean beating your meat in here daily is no fun….just go to fat chicks in bikinis dot com you will find true love and stop being such a angry old man.
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more gey ish?!?!?
what a phagg
September 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
if we use this:
C-ode black 11′
B-low out the bills
S-iver n’ Black 4 life
the ‘ goes BEFORE the 11. Should look like this:
‘11
(the teacher in me)
September 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Bills d cannot contain Raiders rushing offense. DMC/Bush get 1 td each, Campbell hits Moore for a TD. Seabass gets 4 fg’s as the offense stalls often in the 1st half and we half to settle for 3’s until we get into a groove. Bills oline can’t contain the wrecking crew dline, they get 4 sacks with another coming off the edge on a safety blitz. Bills get a late TD to make the score seem close.
Raiders 26
Bills 20
Go RAIDERS!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
If tj had his way DMAC would be on the bench for Fargas or Bush, Arman Sheilds would still be on IR, JaMeatloaf would be the starting Qb, and DHB would continue his scholarship.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Now that’s what I’m talkun bout mane!
September 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Can’t add today.. Seabass gets 2 fg’s -
Raiders 27
Bills 20
September 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
MistaBrown telling it like it is… What I dont like is that Hue says previous in week about Hagan, he missed practice, thats why he didnt play. Then this week he kind of slams the man saying he played well and that got him on the team, dont mean hes one of our best 4 receivers.. Lost some respect for Hue.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
# Stickem Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Steve ~ Did you ask Hue the obvious question, “Who decided Heyward-Bey is the starter, you or Al Davis?”
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Notice that Steve wrote”Coach Hue Jackson was asked Friday why wide receiver Derek Hagan was inactive against the Denver Broncos in the regular-season opener”
Which probably means that someone else asked that question. Someone with a pair.
Steve wants to fit in, not rock the boat. That would be too much like journalism.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
No more respect for u hue.. Backtracking like a mofo..I like dhb but based off what he said dhb should have been gone last year.. Don’t get me started on schillens.. No production except maybe two games a year
September 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
it really doesnt matter if blogger loose respect for hu jack. but he must keep the respect of his team coaches and uncle al.
Him being firm in his answers shows the team and organization that he wont be swyed by pressure from the media or fans enamored with a pre season fan favorite.
Sticking to his guns on this issue goes a long way in that locker room
September 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Hu jack wants/needs to win, if he doesnt he wont be head coach for long.
Does anyone really believe that he would play inferior players to serve some agenda besides wining?
September 16th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
151.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Hu jack wants/needs to win, if he doesnt he wont be head coach for long.
Does anyone really believe that he would play inferior players to serve some agenda besides wining?
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LOL you didnt just ask this….I’m gonna pretend you meant something else
September 16th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
150.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
it really doesnt matter if blogger loose respect for hu jack. but he must keep the respect of his team coaches and uncle al.
Him being firm in his answers shows the team and organization that he wont be swyed by pressure from the media or fans enamored with a pre season fan favorite.
Sticking to his guns on this issue goes a long way in that locker room
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Not playing the best players will lose respect of the locker room fast
September 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
JC should be in Hues hear sayin listen up “obviously” you want to win so give me the best supporting cast you fk’n meatball!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
144.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
If tj had his way DMAC would be on the bench for Fargas or Bush, Arman Sheilds would still be on IR, JaMeatloaf would be the starting Qb, and DHB would continue his scholarship.
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HAHAHAHA with still photos
September 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
MAN, Cork!! Hue Jack just basically told you to su<k his dick!!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
147.raidersfannc Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
MistaBrown telling it like it is… What I dont like is that Hue says previous in week about Hagan, he missed practice, thats why he didnt play. Then this week he kind of slams the man saying he played well and that got him on the team, dont mean hes one of our best 4 receivers.. Lost some respect for Hue.
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Management
September 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
it will be interesting following the careers of peterson smith and dvd. im curious which of these guys will have the best career
September 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Snap!
I forgot about the still photos!
Hahahaha tj has such a laundry list you need a excel worksheet to keep up.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Mistic,the problem is most on here don’t have a clue as to who the inferior players are.Using the logic of the masses,almost every back-up player should start over every starter because they produced more in the practice games,BECAUSE they played more,not that they are better players.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
LOL
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# Whats a Drexl? Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
MAN, Cork!! Hue Jack just basically told you to su<k his dick!!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
So, there you have it. What Hagan did in practice and exhibition games was good enough to get him a spot on the 53-man roster. For him to play in a game, he’s going to have to do even more in practice.
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Meaning he will have to be Lance Alworth in his prime
September 16th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
If Al says start DHB it looks bad if Hue says Al told me to start DHB doesn’t it? Al drafts and handles free agency and he’s been pretty good at it right so why can’t he be good about having some input on who starts? Who gives a f as long as we win
September 16th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
160.lefty12 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Mistic,the problem is most on here don’t have a clue as to who the inferior players are.Using the logic of the masses,almost every back-up player should start over every starter because they produced more in the practice games,BECAUSE they played more,not that they are better players.
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So DHB deserves to start?
September 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Lefty….have we never seen back ups that have outplayed the starters?
September 16th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Hue Jack is “obviously” pisT at Hagan. Basically telling Cork the twice cut, preseason blog fan favorite is lucky to have a job.
Deyam, that Hue Jack is a cold mofo.
He’s like yo Cork how’s about you and those blogging fools su<k my dick.
I love the fire in this HC, good things are happening at Harbour Blvd, me thinks.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Us Hagan supporters are not like you DHB guys….you guys are hoping his development will bring production…we 100 pct confident Hagan is making it happen as soon as he gets on the field
September 16th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
When a backup outperforms a D-lineman who was part of the #1 pass-rushing group last year, it doesn’t matter.
When a veteran backup outperforms a bunch of underachieving average-talent-at-best WRs, it could actually help the team.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Hu jack wants/needs to win, if he doesnt he wont be head coach for long.
Does anyone really believe that he would play inferior players to serve some agenda besides wining?
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NO!
But Al Davis would yes. Just refer to Marcus Allen
“not always the best players were on the field”
September 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
How many practices have you watched?You don’t know what happens during practice.You don’t have a phucking clue about how each player preforms during practice,and practice decides who plays and when they play.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
these Raider receivers must not be very good if a guy one dinged ankle away from the soup line can “outperform” them.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Mods choppin my posts…..no vulgarity and all lmao
September 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
170.lefty12 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
How many practices have you watched?You don’t know what happens during practice.You don’t have a phucking clue about how each player preforms during practice,and practice decides who plays and when they play.
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No I just have game tape and live viewing ofthe games to tell me all I need to know
September 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
we may see a lot of bush and some taiwan sunday. dmc looks like a go but if the raiders are killing it w/ the run game, he might sit and rest a bit.
wr injuries open up a chance for chaz/denarius/hagan. if they excel, they will see more time later too.
boss will be a big addition.
heyer replaced by barks as backup T. bruce could dress as backup G. heyer fills both those roles. only 7 OL dressed monday.
seymour likely but more time for hendu, dez, and houston, at DT.
huff should go, but giordano and dvd will get more time.
i think we’re in good shape. everything depends on the run game/ball control.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
168.alex7 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
When a backup outperforms a D-lineman who was part of the #1 pass-rushing group last year, it doesn’t matter.
When a veteran backup outperforms a bunch of underachieving average-talent-at-best WRs, it could actually help the team.
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Factoid
September 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Homers trying hard to hold the fort down. Lol
September 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Drexl….I’m just as cold as Hue….wish he would be at JLS this weekend. I’d sure tell him dont let certain egos get in the way of winning
September 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Thanks for asking the questions, Steve. It’s what people want to iknow, even if Jackson went straight into politician mode and babbled on about NOTHING. Pure BS. It’s BS we can put up with if the W’s keep coming, but BS none the less.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
176.The Big Banana Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Homers trying hard to hold the fort down. Lol
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Yeah depends on what faction of homers you referring to….I’m a homer….I just know DHB doesnt deserve to start
September 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
You guys act like a bunch of crybabies because someone you favor isn’t playing as much as you want.GROW UP.You remind me of one of those annoying little brats screaming in the grocery store because their mommy won’t buy them a ice cream bar.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
One more stupid move like this and Hue is going to start hearing from the fans @ home on sundays.
The end
September 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
DMAC and Bush looking good.
Good d-line
Depth in the secondary.
An an o-line that doesnt play like whipped cream.
This team is looking much better
Oakland 26
Buffalo 20
September 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Sorry lefty.
we’ll stop talking about things relevant enough to be asked of the head coach by a news coverage person.
How dare we discuss such trivial matters such as “is the best player playing?”
silly us.
Back to hermit mode until Sunday. SILENCE!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
181.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
One more stupid move like this and Hue is going to start hearing from the fans @ home on sundays.
The end
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Oh yes next sunday he will hear win lose or tie from people
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Just Win
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
guys–it’s simple–hue doesn’t see hagan as the savior. he’s a guy w/ a track record of being marginal. he looked good in preseason and may have stepped up his game, but he is still a possession receiver. don’t get so excited. he will likely get a chance sunday. if he produces, he will work his way in. he’s not some big secret.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
180.lefty12 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
You guys act like a bunch of crybabies because someone you favor isn’t playing as much as you want.GROW UP.You remind me of one of those annoying little brats screaming in the grocery store because their mommy won’t buy them a ice cream bar.
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I personally like the Ice Cream “samiches” from the Ice Cream truck….fk the grocery store
Lefty we want the best players out there period. DHB is not
September 16th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
186.rob_raider Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
guys–it’s simple–hue doesn’t see hagan as the savior. he’s a guy w/ a track record of being marginal. he looked good in preseason and may have stepped up his game, but he is still a possession receiver. don’t get so excited. he will likely get a chance sunday. if he produces, he will work his way in. he’s not some big secret.
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Possession WR….thank you for saying that…..does this team nto need one?
September 16th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Why does everything Buf can stop the run? According to profootballreference.com they gave up an average of 6 yards/ carry
September 16th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Game film-lmfao.You mean the pictures you get from the networks after you tape a game.You can’t see half of what is happening during the games.And live action.Aren’t you usually bombed before the game even starts.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Drexl….I’m just as cold as Hue….wish he would be at JLS this weekend. I’d sure tell him dont let certain egos get in the way of winning
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Come on man,
That would be like Krappy trying to run down Moss in the Safeway parking lot to give him some game tips and what not.
Hue cant run as fast as Moss I’m thinking so you may catch him!!
LOL!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Alex,discuss the team all you wish,that is what this place is all about.But quit acting like you know more than the coaches,because 99.99999999……% of the time you don’t.What gets me is whenever the HC makes a decision,if people like it they say how great he is.If they don’t like it ,it is because the old man mandates everything.It can’t be both ways and what many don’t realize this team is run the same way many others are run-the GM puts the team together,the coaches coach the team.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
181.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
One more stupid move like this and Hue is going to start hearing from the fans @ home on sundays.
The end
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Oh yes next sunday he will hear win lose or tie from people
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Next weekend he will be hearing the boos from the Buffalo fans as they watch Hue Jacks Raider defense violently ruin Fitz day.
Oh the horor
September 16th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
191.Whats a Drexl? Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Drexl….I’m just as cold as Hue….wish he would be at JLS this weekend. I’d sure tell him dont let certain egos get in the way of winning
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Come on man,
That would be like Krappy trying to run down Moss in the Safeway parking lot to give him some game tips and what not.
Hue cant run as fast as Moss I’m thinking so you may catch him!!
LOL!
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If Kell slid on his turd loafs he would out run Moss
September 16th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
193.Whats a Drexl? Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
181.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
One more stupid move like this and Hue is going to start hearing from the fans @ home on sundays.
The end
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Oh yes next sunday he will hear win lose or tie from people
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Next weekend he will be hearing the boos from the Buffalo fans as they watch Hue Jacks Raider defense violently ruin Fitz day.
Oh the horor
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The whore?
September 16th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Raider’s get some love from NFL.com columnist.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82242319/article/newlook-raiders-will-push-chargers-for-afc-west-crown
September 16th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
The HC told you people why Hagan isn’t playing.He told you he isn’t one of the 5 best WRs on the team,and you guys can’t handle it.As Jack said”The truth,you want the truth,you can’t handle the truth”.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Karnak says: Our secondary will be challenged this week by buffalo, but we will prevail. It will be a coming out party for DVD. We will get an early lead and force the Bills to abandon the run early. We win going away. I have spoken.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
197.lefty12 Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
The HC told you people why Hagan isn’t playing.He told you he isn’t one of the 5 best WRs on the team,and you guys can’t handle it.As Jack said”The truth,you want the truth,you can’t handle the truth”.
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Come on Lefty you have even seen better guys sitting the bench for years due to coach fkin up….dont worry I go to the games and I will rally the folks on this issue….trust this wont go away
September 16th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Lefty,
if you truly believe that Hagan isn’t better than Miller, Chaz at 80%, or Moore right now,
ehh, sorry bud, but you’re wrong.
Hagan has a track record, average as it is (behind a loaded WR lineup in NYG).
Our guys I mentioned have NOTHING.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
I disagree with you,but that is ok.I don’t think he is better than any of those guys.Who said Chaz is just 80%?According to your hero Corkran,he is healthy and doing everything asked of him.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
BTW,your arrogance is annoying.Just because you disagree with me doesn’t make me wrong.I could say you are wrong,but won’t just because we have differing views.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
193.Whats a Drexl? Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
181.MistaBrown Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
One more stupid move like this and Hue is going to start hearing from the fans @ home on sundays.
The end
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Oh yes next sunday he will hear win lose or tie from people
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Next weekend he will be hearing the boos from the Buffalo fans as they watch Hue Jacks Raider defense violently ruin Fitz day.
Oh the horor
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The whore?
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No, like when Brando was rubbing his bald melon in Apocalypse Now.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
The biggest upgrade Sunday will be the return of Kevin Boss. It’s going to be a 4 1/2 hr drive from N/W Ohio but it will be worth it.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I like Cork and read his work daily…but do not consider him the end all, be all of football knowledge. Reading his chat after the game it seemed like he did not quite understand just how dominant the Raider’s D-line was in harassing Orton. He kept mentioning instances of the Dline not getting near Orton, even if it was a quick 3 step drop and throw. We battered Orton, sacked him 5 times (ALL DLINE) and hit him countless others. Oakland physically dominated the Raider O and Cork seemed to be arguing that point.
Hagan came into camp late as a body and impressed enough to make the team. Expecting him to start just because he was the team’s leading receiver in the preseason is utterly ridiculous. Preseason rarely means anything…did you see the Raiders D on Monday? Nuff said.
One Nation Baby…
September 16th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
ALEX… what’s the point… until hue n al crown Hagan a good receiver. .. the anti hagan guys will not support him. These are company guys… I saw hagan outplay all our receivers in preseason games…. damn!!! Atleast try him out. . Lets see what he can do….. to place Nick Miller and a 75% chaz over hagan is a stupid joke!!! I hope Hagan lights it up on sun… 8 catches for 175 yards and a touch down… even shuts up hue!!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Get a grip already.
Hagan has been released by two teams already.
Did he look good in pre-season?
Yes, but in comparison to the other Raider receivers.
Should he play?
Well, there are only so many slots and we know that DHB will take one because Al thinks his reputation is on the line.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Leftster is a great poster….we just dont agree on this issue….but I hope no one goes in and bashes this great Raider man. He is just an OG that plays schit cautious…no problem
September 16th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
The biggest upgrade Sunday will be the return of Kevin Boss. It’s going to be a 4 1/2 hr drive from N/W Ohio but it will be worth it.
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Krikey Mate!! I wish I could be there, I have always wanted to go to a game in Buffalo.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Raidervill Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I like Cork and read his work daily…but do not consider him the end all, be all of football knowledge. Reading his chat after the game it seemed like he did not quite understand just how dominant the Raider’s D-line was in harassing Orton. He kept mentioning instances of the Dline not getting near Orton, even if it was a quick 3 step drop and throw. We battered Orton, sacked him 5 times (ALL DLINE) and hit him countless others. Oakland physically dominated the Raider O and Cork seemed to be arguing that point.
Hagan came into camp late as a body and impressed enough to make the team. Expecting him to start just because he was the team’s leading receiver in the preseason is utterly ridiculous. Preseason rarely means anything…did you see the Raiders D on Monday? Nuff said.
One Nation Baby…
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He seemed like he was about to pull a Tony Bruno, and tweet some stupid thing, and get a week off.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Ghost,you are such a tool.Nobody is anti Hagan,he is a Raider.If he plays I’d love to see him post those results.The question is ,is he better than all those in front of him.To that I say,the coaches are in a better position to make that decision than we are-they see him every day at practice-you don’t.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
DMoore tore it up in preseason but had 0 receptions Monday Night so there’s no guarantee Hagan will set the world on fire I’m good with any of the receivers starting/getting playing time they’re all pretty good but I’m not good w/ NMiller handleing PR or KR
September 16th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
i love it when someone gets called a tool. Such a classic put down, well played Lefty!!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
B,thanks.That is correct and there is nothing wrong with us having different opinions as long as we keep things civil.Talk at you people later.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Whats A Drexl? A Troll.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
HAH!
I caught me a Krappy!!
What, you don’t like history class?
September 16th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
215.KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Whats A Drexl? A Troll.
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And isn’t Alex MR?
September 16th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Cork next push Hue on why NMiller is returing punts when based on performance DMoore looked much better in practice/preseason. Get em Cork!
September 16th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
September 16th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Hagan came into camp late as a body and impressed enough to make the team. Expecting him to start just because he was the team’s leading receiver in the preseason is utterly ridiculous. Preseason rarely means anything…did you see the Raiders D on Monday? Nuff said.
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Seems like that just about sums it up.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Whats A Drexl? A Troll.
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I believe you have used the a few terms:
Troll, poot butt(what ever that is), ad apologist, boot licker, the names go on and on actually.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
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September 16th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
The Raiders are going to play to their strengths…namely defense, running the ball, and passing sparingly.
McFadden is the engine that drives this train.
September 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
215.KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Whats A Drexl? A Troll.
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Stupid ass …its Drexl! He has been on this site before and the B@uce and Drexl have met at the coliseum a few times and get brews halftime by the Sierra Nevada stand near the blackhole…..that troll schit is a weak excuse just cuz everyone hates your fkin guts
September 16th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
its all good B, hate mail from Krappy makes me smile.
Watch your self though or he might try and run you over in his vette.
September 16th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
I usually make it to I game a year if it’s within driving distance. Last 2 yrs, Pitts, and Primanti Bros , and this year after the game, the Anchor Bar where Buffalo Wings were created. After we win, I’m ordering Raider Wings.
September 16th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
new post
September 16th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Lefty..
Look whose calling who a tool… you’re the biggest tool on here… Hagan is definitely not the best wide receiver on the Raiders roster… but he’s not the worst either. .. the Guy has experience… he’s a possession receiver. .. so I understand playing dhb… but Murphy is hurt… chaz is at 75%… Ford is hurt and Miller sucks. .. if it was up to you… you would probably play Pryor at wr before you play Hagan. .. obviously a lot of people feel the way I do.. otherwise hue Jack wouldn’t be back peddling. .. I. Just want to see the best players out there That give us the best chance to win….. period!!!
September 16th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExsellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
How many handles do you post under?
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At least five.
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Now I know he’s a troll. Drexl/Bootlicker. Lol.
September 16th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Years ago, I went to New Orleans for MNF with the Booster organization. After the game which we lost, we got pooboys to go and took them back to the hotel. Opened up the boxes and there was written on a napkin with a marker, CHA CHING!
September 16th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
BeAlwaysUrselfCommittingtoExsellence2011 Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
How many handles do you post under?
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At least five.
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Now I know he’s a troll. Drexl/Bootlicker. Lol.
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Krappy the name always contain the word Drexl, are you following yet?
September 16th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Years ago, I went to New Orleans for MNF with the Booster organization. After the game which we lost, we got pooboys to go and took them back to the hotel. Opened up the boxes and there was written on a napkin with a marker, CHA CHING!
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LOL, those pesky Saint fans, hope thats all they did.
September 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Hujac has spoken…CODE BLACK..obviously
September 16th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
# oldschoolraider Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
# Stickem Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Steve ~ Did you ask Hue the obvious question, “Who decided Heyward-Bey is the starter, you or Al Davis?”
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Notice that Steve wrote”Coach Hue Jackson was asked Friday why wide receiver Derek Hagan was inactive against the Denver Broncos in the regular-season opener”
Which probably means that someone else asked that question. Someone with a pair.
Steve wants to fit in, not rock the boat. That would be too much like journalism.
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I posted this earlier and have since learned that It was indeed Steve Corkran who was asking the tough questions at the presser. You have my apologies Steve.
I still think your statement about Nick Miller was crazy.
September 16th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
it’s really a pretty simple picture w/ the raiders wr’s.
dhb hasn’t really done much. we all know that. but none of them have. they have a lot invested in him and they are gonna want to see if he can do something. there is nobody on the roster that has done anything in a meaningful game that would be knocking down the door.
ford made a lot of nice plays last year, but many of them were in the return game and on reverses. he really hasn’t done much to suggest he is a reliable receiver yet either.
chaz has looked great in what seems like the distant past. but in that time, he did look like a legit wr. injuries may well have ruined his career, but we’ll see soon.
denarius looked great in preseason. but he’s rookie. he’ll get chances but they’re not going to put at the front of the line yet.
hagan looked good. but you what he really looks like? a good #3 or #4. not larry fitzgerald.
murphy is hurt and his chances are diminishing. but he has looked the best in regular season games than any of them.
miller. gee, he played his way onto the team 3 years ago in preseason. looked great. how has he panned out?
for the millionth time, preseason don’t mean sh*t.
September 16th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
hue jackson on the wr decisions. “I get to make that decision. Nobody else. Me.”
u see. he was addressing the rather ridiculous assumption that al davis decides who starts.
it’s like this: when al davis hired hue, he likely discussed the personnel and who he would like to have opportunities. they probably agreed dhb would get a good long look.
did bruce campbell start? many of u were saying he needed to start, and most would think al davis wants that. supposedly that’s one of the things al was mad at cable for. but guess what? if cable wasn’t playing him, didn’t that mean cab;e was deciding? and since bruce didn’t start, and in fact didn’t even dress, doesn’t that mean hue calls the shots on who plays?
September 16th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
rob_raider Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
hue jackson on the wr decisions. “I get to make that decision. Nobody else. Me.”
u see. he was addressing the rather ridiculous assumption that al davis decides who starts.
it’s like this: when al davis hired hue, he likely discussed the personnel and who he would like to have opportunities. they probably agreed dhb would get a good long look.
did bruce campbell start? many of u were saying he needed to start, and most would think al davis wants that. supposedly that’s one of the things al was mad at cable for. but guess what? if cable wasn’t playing him, didn’t that mean cab;e was deciding? and since bruce didn’t start, and in fact didn’t even dress, doesn’t that mean hue calls the shots on who plays?
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Yeah, sure. What transcript were your reading? Jackson got owned by Corkran. Exposed, pants down, and evasive. Just another coach on a string. And I say good: once again the curtain gets pulled back on the Not So Wizard of Al.
September 16th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Hagan came into camp late as a body and impressed enough to make the team. Expecting him to start just because he was the team’s leading receiver in the preseason is utterly ridiculous. Preseason rarely means anything…did you see the Raiders D on Monday? Nuff said.
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Seems like that just about sums it up.
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Sums it up if you’re an Al acolyte. Otherwise, no, it offers no rationale whatsoever. Fail.
September 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
ma name is stanky AL, I’ll crap in ya face, I’m playing DHB, and I squirt ya with mace…..
don’t talk about hagan, he just a big jackass, he caught so many balls, we should just call him “pass”
but if I love ya I love ya n I love DHB, so I’ll do what I have to, accept mediocrity…..
as far as the fans and nation too, you a bunch of skanks, pay me me ya money fool,
don’t really care if we never win a game, I Stanky AL, I wont take the blame……
all you fans and the nation too, get down on your knees and stick your tongues out fools,
I’ll piss in the wind and you can have a good drank, meanwhile I’ll run with your money and put it all in my bank……
nuff said ??? idiots ??
Just Die Baby !!!
September 16th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
okay idiots, knucklehead prognosticators, illuminous predictors of tempest-in-teapots, here we gooo……
I right back at it, sent out ma tooner, a scrotal sack, let’s just call him “spooner”……
he has a bald black head, his left eye hangs low, he proud of himself, thinks he really knows,
he spoons out caa-caa time and again, ya’ll believe it,
thankin Broncos was a win,
but we all know they are bottom of the scrum, by the time its over, spooner will be exposed as a bum,
see I play him like a mean guitar, send him out on stage, and he acts bizarre,
he talks about Hagan, like he laid an egg, best in the preseason and he still has to beg,
spooner lays on a multitude of crap, he just an uncle tom, maybe he’ll take up rap……
spooner does what I say, cause I am the boss, I am stanky AL, too bad your loss…..
ya see ma fans and the nation too, ya’ll work for me, spooner will cover you in poo,
meanwhile, I’ll do what I want, you’ll keep giving me your dough, by and by its spooner I’ll haunt,
cause if he starts losing I’ll get in my groove, crack that shiny pate with my favorite pool cue.
Just Die Baby !!!! I out
September 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
# Method To My Madness Says:
September 16th, 2011 at 10:24 am
HAHAHA again the experts from ESPN all picked Buffalo to beat us…..please pick against us…..I mean as it is what I’ve said all along we will be lucky to win 3 games!!
September 17th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
@teabag
Dude it was preseason, preseason, in the Allen Iverson voice, when Hue made that statement i never thought once he meant that kid would actually start, i always undstood it as meaning he would have a shot at making the team.. if we wnt on preseason N.Miler would be starting, and our entire starting def would be benched cuz dey didnt look great in preseason. Im glad the guy made the team but he doesnt deserve to start over dhb, murphy, shillens, nor ford just cuz he performed in preseason..
September 17th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Screw Hue and Al! just the fact that Hue stated three times that he makes the decisions on who starts proves he doesn’t. DHB is a better WR than Hagan? Moore and Schilens are better than Hagan?Come on man! Hagan is in Al’s doghouse for questioning why he didn’t start in Denver bottom line. Al is a spiteful paranoid old man who needs to sell the team. He has destroyed a once proud and winning franchise. He’s the joke of the sports world. Just sell you pathetic old man! Hey Herrera I think Al needs his diaper changed you better hurry. And don’t forget his Ensure!
September 17th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
That just shows, that Al is still making the calls on the personnel on this team. Otherwise, Hue would sit Miller and replace him with D. Moore or Jones @ punt return and put Hagan as 3rd Reciever. These are your playmaker, make use of them to win you games.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
No Matter how good a player you are, if you question Al, on his decesion making you are not going to play. The man is to prideful & stubborn to tell him his wrong. Humble yourself Al…….
September 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
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