Seymour says Bills loss one of most ‘heartbreaking’ of career
By Steve Corkran
Monday, September 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour has been a part of far more victories than losses during his 11-year NFL career. Yet, he has been involved with a fair amount of losses during that time, as well.
The loss to the New York Giants in the Super Bowl several years ago no doubt ranks at the top of Seymour’s list of tough losses. Oakland’s 38-35 loss to the Buffalo Bills on Sunday made the list.
“I’ve been in many games in my career, and that’s one of the most heartbreaking ones I’ve had,” Seymour said Monday.
The Raiders squandered a 21-3 halftime lead and allowed the Bills to rally from 28-24 and 35-31 deficits in the fourth quarter.
Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly has seen his more than his share of losses during his eight-year career with the Raiders. The Bills loss tops his list.
“That’s about the worst one since I’ve been here,” Kelly said. “In eight years, we ain’t never been up on nobody 21-3 and lost. We ain’t never been up on nobody 21-3 that many times since I’ve been here. Man, we just got to go back to the drawing board. It’s just a real tough pill to swallow. Real tough.”
Seymour and other players said as tough as it is to cope with the stunning loss Sunday, there isn’t much time to wallow. The undefeated New York Jets roll into town Sunday fresh from a 32-3 victory.
“It’s easy,” Seymour said in terms of getting over the Bills loss. “As a competitor, as a player, you want to get back on the field. I wish we had a Thursday night game this week, just to get back out on the field and redeem yourself, so to speak. We’ve got to come back and rally as a group and pull together.”
*Kelly and Seymour credited the Bills with designing an offensive game plan that called for quick, short passes that negated the Raiders pass rush.
More times than not, Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick had the ball out of his hand long before the defensive linemen got anywhere near him with their rush.
Fitzpatrick attempted 46 passes without being sacked, even in the face of a blitz from time to time. Middle linebacker Rolando McClain was penalized for holding the only time the Raiders sacked Fitzpatrick.
“Matt (Shaugnessy) or Trevor (Scott) told me about a couple of times they came scot-free and before they could even get there, it was gone,” Kelly said. “So, hey, they had a good game plan, they executed their game plan, so you got to give credit to the Bills.”
Seymour said the Raiders now have to figure out a way to defend against such an approach because future opponents are apt to do the same thing.
“I don’t think he ever held onto it longer than 3,” Seymour said. “(He was throwing) short, dink-and-dunk passes. We could have got our hands up to try to bat some passes down. But we give them credit. They game-planned us and they executed well.
“It’s a learning experience for us. Anytime you get beat, that’s a formula for another team to look at, so we have to look at the game plan and the film, and we have to get better.”
*Quarterback Jason Campbell said the Raiders did a nice job of building a 21-3 halftime lead, but they failed to keep down the Bills when they had an opportunity in the second half.
The Bills scored touchdowns on all five of their second-half possessions. That’s what can happen if you give a team a reason to believe, Campbell said.
“You’re on the road, you can’t give a team life,” Campbell said. “I feel like once we gave them life, gave them momentum, they caught their chemistry as well on offense, and it just became a boxing match. Like I said, that’s any team.
Once you get a team down, you got to keep them down. And once you give them life, all it takes is a couple plays, and they’re awake.”
Raiders coach Hue Jackson hammered home that point during his post-game speech, according to Campbell and other players.
Jackson won’t speak with the media at his weekly news conference until 2 p.m., so we don’t have any idea what his thoughts are about the game just yet.
*Cornerback Stanford Routt had another outstanding game for the Raiders. He intercepted a pass, broke up a couple of passes and more than held his own against the Bills passing attack.
None of that matters to Routt, he said, because he was part of a defense that allowed 35 second-half points and enabled the Bills to overshadow a superb offensive showing by the Raiders.
“You definitely don’t want to ever feel like you’re letting your offense down,” Routt said, “and yesterday we did. It was 21-3 at halftime or something like that. Anytime it’s a lead that big, as a defense, you have to go in and bring that home.”
Several players struggled in pass coverage and against the run Sunday. Cornerback Chris Johnson, McClain and strong safety Tyvon Branch also committed costly penalties in the second half.
Perhaps most glaring, no one covered wide receiver David Nelson on his game-deciding, 6-yard touchdown catch with 14 seconds left.
“I don’t think confidence is anything that lacks in the secondary,” Routt said. “I know you guys in the media, you all try to criticize or chastise a certain individual back there for getting beat on a play, but I don’t think we’re lacking in confidence at all.”
*Wide receiver Derek Hagan caught five passes for 61 yards in his Raiders debut Sunday. Rookie Denarius Moore added five catches for 146 yards.
Hagan said their performance validated what they did throughout training camp and Oakland’s four exhibition games. It also bodes well for the Raiders offense moving forward.
“We knew going into training camp we had guys that can get the job done,” Hagan said. “It just shows we have depth. It doesn’t matter who’s in there. A team really can’t focus on one receiver, and that’s a great thing to have because we all know we all can make plays, and Jason has the confidence to throw any one of us the ball, and he knows we’re going to go out there and make the play for him.”
*Campbell’s 50-yard touchdown pass to Moore came on a throw into tight double coverage. Yet, he feels as if he can take those kinds of chances when guys like Moore are so aggressive going after the ball.
“It was one of those trust issues,” Campbell said. “You see him getting behind the safety and you know he’s going to be pretty much one on one with the corner. (Moore) went up and got the ball at its highest point and made a play for you, and you look around the league, you see guys scoring points. Around the league, you always see guys making plays and that’s exactly what he did – he made plays. He made plays on one of the third downs, in the red zone, on a sideline catch where he went up and got the ball at the highest point. As a quarterback, you learn to trust a guy.”
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September 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RAIDER NATION
September 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
still dont see how anyone can blame chuck b. was it the wrong call when cj dropped the int? what about branches dropped int or the forced fumble that was robbed, where thos the wrong calls too? how about running backs breaking arm tackles at the line of scrimmage and turning into big runs, wrong defensive call? make the plays and we arent having this discussion.
The takes on davis’s socalled mandated defense are ridiculous. we ran zone and blitzed, is this a davis mandate?
we play man to man people blame davis, now we run multiple looks and people still blame davis.
It is a new scheme and the players are trying to learn it, it will take time to gel
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I think we can beat the patsies, it will be a shoot out.
The pats cant stop the run or the pass. last team with the ball will win
September 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
It all starts up front.
The LB’s need the front four to smash.
The DB’s need the front 4 to smash.
Our Db’s looked just fine in Den, our front 4 were ballin and blitz’s weren’t on film yet. Buff gets paid too they saw those blitz’s and adjusted.
September 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Hey Seymour go to Walmart and get yourself a mirror, and look into that mf’er
September 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Cut Nick Miller the field position/roster spot killer and cut Stephon Heyer. Our Oline played very well yesterday and Heyer wasnt even activated.
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BCZ,
I could live with that!
September 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
A fired up Seymour without Mangold there to protect him could mean a long, long day for the Sanchize next Sunday.
/whistling past the graveyard
September 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Campbell’s 50-yard touchdown pass to Moore came on a throw into tight double coverage. Yet, he feels as if he can take those kinds of chances when guys like Moore are so aggressive going after the ball.
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Someone remind me: which receiver sat yesterday who’s NOT aggressive about going after the ball? (hint: it’s not Jacoby Ford)
Perhaps there’s some relation between Campbell’s trust in his receivers and his outstanding play? Nah, coincidence. DHB is the next Jerry Rice!
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Hey Seymour go to Walmart and get yourself a mirror, and look into that mf’er
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Only way to redeem yourself is to beat the jest silly…
the jest game is ATONEMENT and REDEMPTION…
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Anyone on the excuses bandwagon need to read this post and its quotes very carefully.
I am actually encouraged that the Raider players get it.
No talk of being “Gassed” or blame…they just didn’t get it done
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Fitzpatrick attempted 46 passes without being sacked
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tough pill to swallow
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
The Jets know damn well they are going to get a fired up Raider team for the home opener. Bring your A game green your going to need it!
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
CODE BLACK MUFUGGA!
September 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
If this game keeps the defensive line from believing their own hype from here on out, I can deal with it.
Again, we’ll learn a LOT about HueJax and this team on Sunday: new beginning or same old Raiders?
September 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Saying the right things but they’d better show up against the jets.
September 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Sanchez could very well be knocked the F out be the 2nd quarter Sunday on the sidelines with a stadium dog rammed up his keester.
September 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
B@uce<——-Will be there sunday….how bout you?
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
JC clearly has confidence in DHB to go get the ball as well, he targetd him in double coverage as well.
hate to tell you guys but JC has taken the reigns of this offense and the play makers are going to the wall for him, its called leadership
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Raiders may be catching a couple injury breaks: Mangold is almost certainly out next week and Aaron Hernandez looks like he may miss two weeks for the Pats.
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
5 possessions, 5 TD’s that is some madden 2012 or Oklahoma vs Laney JC type of stat….
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
“It’s easy,” Seymour said in terms of getting over the Bills loss. “As a competitor, as a player, you want to get back on the field. I wish we had a Thursday night game this week, just to get back out on the field and redeem yourself, so to speak. We’ve got to come back and rally as a group and pull together.”
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Thank you. Just get back on the field and get it together.
He wants to play Thursday….I wonder if that desire is wise given they might be “Gassed”
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
B@uce<——-Will be there sunday….how bout you?
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Man where u been today?
September 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
*Kelly and Seymour credited the Bills with designing an offensive game plan that called for quick, short passes that negated the Raiders pass rush.
More times than not, Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick had the ball out of his hand long before the defensive linemen got anywhere near him with their rush.
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Coach B is accountable for this
September 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
JC clearly has confidence in DHB to go get the ball as well, he targetd him in double coverage as well.
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Does DHB make the catch Moore made yesterday?
September 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Sanchez could very well be knocked the F out be the 2nd quarter Sunday on the sidelines with a stadium dog rammed up his keester.
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ROFLMBAO….
September 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
*Kelly and Seymour credited the Bills with designing an offensive game plan that called for quick, short passes that negated the Raiders pass rush.
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Many of the semi-pros here said this would be the Bills’s gameplan. Why did it apparently come as a surprise to Bresnahan?
September 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
“It’s a learning experience for us. Anytime you get beat, that’s a formula for another team to look at, so we have to look at the game plan and the film, and we have to get better.”
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This is everything.
They have to get in here and FIX it fast.
Coach B better be doing some teaching here
September 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
that sh!t is all lip service to me unless they come out with 5 or 6 sacks next week.
September 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Coach B better be doing some teaching here
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Wish I had confidence in him to teach.
Chuck’s first tour of duty here featured players like John Parrella and Bill Romanowski among others…they really didn’t need a teacher.
September 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Many of the semi-pros here said this would be the Bills’s gameplan. Why did it apparently come as a surprise to Bresnahan?
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PA,
yeah – after watching them kill KC in the opener, who knew Fitzpatrick would try to get his TE’s heavily involved in the passing game?
did they even watch the friggin tape?
September 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
*Kelly and Seymour credited the Bills with designing an offensive game plan that called for quick, short passes that negated the Raiders pass rush.
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These two fools need to shut up. We talk of main culprits like CJ and RoBeast…bit Seymour and Kelly need to be apart of that group as well. They are the front line of the D and it all starts with them. The Ball starts in the middle where they line up. Simple
September 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
The Bills scored touchdowns on all five of their second-half possessions. That’s what can happen if you give a team a reason to believe, Campbell said.
“You’re on the road, you can’t give a team life,” Campbell said. “I feel like once we gave them life, gave them momentum, they caught their chemistry as well on offense, and it just became a boxing match. Like I said, that’s any team.
Once you get a team down, you got to keep them down. And once you give them life, all it takes is a couple plays, and they’re awake.”
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My thoughts too. It was night and day difference when the Bills scored on the opening drive so fast and then the fumble.
The Bills fans carried that energy right through to the end.
The Raiders offense is too be commended for still pushing through that electric environment.
The Bills fans deserve some credit…they too shook down the Raider defense
September 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
WEEK 3 = REDEMPTION SUNDAY
September 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
all lip service to me unless they come out with 5 or 6 sacks next week.
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BCZ,
compare the Jets O-Line to the Bills…
we’re better off just hoping the Jets play like they did last week. JCamp isn’t throwing 4 INT’s
September 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
These two fools need to shut up. We talk of main culprits like CJ and RoBeast…bit Seymour and Kelly need to be apart of that group as well. They are the front line of the D and it all starts with them. The Ball starts in the middle where they line up. Simple
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Yep, and Yep….Need to go in on the whole lot….
September 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Silver n black… couldn’t agree more… dhb.. becomes a spectator if that ball is headed for him…. dmoore is for real man…. I hope dhb’s knee is still hurting for the jets game… bring in Ford n dmoore. ..
September 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
LOL mods at it on me that fast
September 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
The Raiders offense is too be commended for still pushing through that electric environment
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the offense manned up after that…
The D wilted…
Thats OK, those guys are going to look in the mirror, and beat the jest silly Home opener…
I want to witness the dismantlement of Sanchez live, up close and in person…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I hope dhb’s knee is still hurting for the jets game…
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Ghost,
pretty jacked up thing to say.
maybe not to a player like JaMarcus or Javon, but DHB is a good dude. He’s still young and progressing
your best players should start though and DHB isn’t even Top 4 in this WR unit
September 19th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Another silver lining from that game… JC wasnt sacked either. (79 passes in that game 0 sacks might be a record) Our Oline has dramatically improved in the pass protection.
We know we can run the ball. We know we can throw the ball (when the REAL receivers on the team are active), we know we can get after the QB (yesterday was an aberation imo).
Seems like we beat this same dead horse over and over but, discipline and focus is all that stands in the way of this team ACTUALLY making a play off run.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
your best players should start though and DHB isn’t even Top 4 in this WR unit
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Agreed…We can continue to develop him however, he is lower on the depth chart…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Perhaps most glaring, no one covered wide receiver David Nelson on his game-deciding, 6-yard touchdown catch with 14 seconds left.
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crap like this is why I am very concerned.
I wonder if being “GASSED” cause this….so tired they couldn’t even cover.
This is the garbage good teams don’t do
September 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
WTF happened to Chaz???
September 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
BCZ,
compare the Jets O-Line to the Bills…
we’re better off just hoping the Jets play like they did last week. JCamp isn’t throwing 4 INT’s
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Mangold being out is huge for us. I will do more research on their oline though through the week.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Seems like we beat this same dead horse over and over but, discipline and focus is all that stands in the way of this team ACTUALLY making a play off run.
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BCZ,
I’ve been saying it for years
SnB can attest to this.
STOP THE RUN = WIN THE GAME!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Mangold being out is huge for us. I will do more research on their oline though through the week.
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get some film work in, see how they did when he left…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
*Wide receiver Derek Hagan caught five passes for 61 yards in his Raiders debut Sunday. Rookie Denarius Moore added five catches for 146 yards.
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This is called production. Ultimately, every receiver on this team will be measured as such.
DHB produced last week in Denver and deserves to keep playing.
Kinda hard to justify a scenario that doesn’t include Moore on the field and Hagan gettign time
September 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Dear Namdi,
We miss you,
Luv,
Raiders Sucky Secondary
Chuck bresnehan…former UFL retard…really? I guess.
Seymour is old, Kelly stinks, McClain is no Ray Lewis, and our corners (other than routt) were abused. We need depth bad can’t continue to have Boyd cover the slot reciever…Really?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Kinda hard to justify a scenario that doesn’t include Moore on the field and Hagan gettign time
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Both guys balled out…We need to find ways to get touches for both as they “got it on film”
September 19th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
“It was one of those trust issues,” Campbell said. “You see him getting behind the safety and you know he’s going to be pretty much one on one with the corner. (Moore) went up and got the ball at its highest point and made a play for you, and you look around the league, you see guys scoring points. Around the league, you always see guys making plays and that’s exactly what he did – he made plays. He made plays on one of the third downs, in the red zone, on a sideline catch where he went up and got the ball at the highest point. As a quarterback, you learn to trust a guy.”
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Very telling quote from the Quarterback….very telling.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Very telling quote from the Quarterback….very telling.
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They have had it from Day 1…
DMOORE should have been starting out the gates…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Jason Campbell is asking for guys to just figure it out and put some production on the field
September 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
As a Raider Fan, you always expect the worst. When the other team is need of a crucial flag they ALWAYS get it (late flags), when we are up it always feels like we are down and playing catch up. As a Raider fan no lead seems “safe”. Although this loss is heartbreaking it came as no surprise to us true Raider fans…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
LOL mods at it on me that fast
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I blame your boy cockran…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Rockstar.. its sad that we have players riding the pine even though their better players… I would take a Guy with desire. .heart and determination over a supposed awesome physical specimen anyday… those who know that imtalking about would totally agree that dhb as good as Ford and dmoore. . I don’t want dhb to be hurt…. but stop with the BS that he’s going to be a great wr. .. we have one in dmoore. ..geez!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Anything goes sideways on this blog, its on stave cockran…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
SnB #41,
that play had nothing to do with being gassed.
the Bills tried a bit of “trickeration”
they knew ROMAC would cover Spiller out of the backfield, which left the middle of the field WIDE OPEN – nobody within 5 yards
Nelson lined up as a blocker, then just did a little short slant right into the endzone after McClain has vacated the premesis.
In essence, Chan Gailey or whoever calls the plays for Buffalo beat Chuck B in the chess match. We never saw it coming
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
That was a damn good game!
I continue to be impressed with our offense. Denarius Moore is going to be on the field a lot going forward. How can he not? I think we are going to see a lot of 3 WR sets with DHB, Ford, and Moore.
Aside from that fumble that cost us the game, DMac was a BEAST yesterday. Too bad CJ37 couldn’t bail him out.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Thec,
JC says, “AROUND THE LEAGUE, you always see guys making plays and that’s exactly what he did”
That says a lot in my opinion….so you have to ask Jason…as opposed to what?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
CHRIS JOHNSON, ROMAC AND “THE TYVON BRANCHES” ALL SUCK A FAT DYC.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
WEEK 3 = REDEMPTION SUNDAY
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You know its funny….yesterday I was watching the Vick game at this bar and I was choppin it up with an old old old 72 year old Raider OG about the team. I felt better discussing yesterday’s game without any anger. His belief, like mine, although this was an embarrassing meltdown the Raiders are gonna use it as fuel to get on a streak and here’s why:
We play the Jets and Pats at the perfect time. Those are among the elite teams and you get both at home in front of your peoople. Losing that way to the Bills is gonna make it real tough for the undefeated Jets rolling into here….all of yall who wanna doubt bout to be in for a big surprise.
We are gonna be in California until Nov 20th!…well except the Texans game but you get my point. And the sellout streak will start buddy. Yall people can back down and not believe in this team but I will.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
In essence, Chan Gailey or whoever calls the plays for Buffalo beat Chuck B in the chess match. We never saw it coming
WHEN DOESNT THIS FUCN IDIOT CHUC GET BEAT IN CHESS?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
back to work – later gents!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
That was a damn good game!
I continue to be impressed with our offense. Denarius Moore is going to be on the field a lot going forward. How can he not? I think we are going to see a lot of 3 WR sets with DHB, Ford, and Moore.
Aside from that fumble that cost us the game, DMac was a BEAST yesterday. Too bad CJ37 couldn’t bail him out.
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That’s a “Damn Good Game” if all you care about is offense.
That was one of the worst games ever if you care about defense
September 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
“It was one of those trust issues,” Campbell said. “You see him getting behind the safety and you know he’s going to be pretty much one on one with the corner. (Moore) went up and got the ball at its highest point and made a play for you, and you look around the league, you see guys scoring points. Around the league, you always see guys making plays and that’s exactly what he did – he made plays. He made plays on one of the third downs, in the red zone, on a sideline catch where he went up and got the ball at the highest point. As a quarterback, you learn to trust a guy.”
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Very telling quote from the Quarterback….very telling.
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Of course….DHB? I doubt it
September 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
JC clearly has confidence in DHB to go get the ball as well, he targetd him in double coverage as well.
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Does DHB make the catch Moore made yesterday?
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why compare him to moore, moore is in a class by himself.
But yes DHb has caught almost everything thrown in his direction in 2011
September 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Method To My Madness, awesome post….totally believe we can beat both teams…
It all starts with REDEMPTION SUNDAY….
September 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
LTR RR….
September 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
I would have liked to see a bit more zone in the second half. Especially with CJ37 struggling the way he was. I think that would have helped against those short passes and quick throws.
I think we’ll be better at that as the year goes on and we continue to practice it.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Method,
I will agree with one point you said.
Certainly the loss to Buffalo SHOULD have everyones attention about what happens when you don’t stay focused and man up.
So the antennas should be finely tuned with the two challenges rolling in here.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Seymour can talk all he wants about the Bills’ smart game-plan and execution.
But none of the players are addressing the lack of effort on the part of the defense. On running plays, no one was penetrating the line or hitting Fred Jackson — which had nothing to do with Buffalo’s short passing game.
There was NO gang-tackling. No hitting. All arm-tackles and guys flailing at ball carriers.
The defense had no energy, no zip, no passion. Seymour and Kelly got pushed around. Houston and Shaughnessy were shut down by below-average tackles.
Instead of being upset on Monday, how about making a play or two on Sunday? Buffalo had 326 years on 40 plays in the second half — an AVERAGE OF 8.15 yards. That’s what happens when Ohio State plays Indiana.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
guys the last play was a broken coverage, not a schem issue or a play calling issue. Someone missed their assignment, it really is that simple
September 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
That was a damn good game!
I continue to be impressed with our offense. Denarius Moore is going to be on the field a lot going forward. How can he not? I think we are going to see a lot of 3 WR sets with DHB, Ford, and Moore.
Aside from that fumble that cost us the game, DMac was a BEAST yesterday. Too bad CJ37 couldn’t bail him out.
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That’s a “Damn Good Game” if all you care about is offense.
That was one of the worst games ever if you care about defense
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The offense turned the ball over and swung the momentum of the entire game….DMAC
September 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
In football you can throw a flag on every single possesion it is up to the Refs to make that interpretation.Bills were flaged ZERO times in the second half. Please!!!! That is Bulll Shhht
September 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
we played a ton of zone yesterday!!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
hat says a lot in my opinion….so you have to ask Jason…as opposed to what?
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WR need to make plays period…. JC was clicking yesterday, I am going to say something that will sound loony however, I felt that when we had the ball we could score any and every time….
September 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
I would have liked to see a bit more zone in the second half. Especially with CJ37 struggling the way he was. I think that would have helped against those short passes and quick throws.
I think we’ll be better at that as the year goes on and we continue to practice it
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They better get better at it this week.
Quick short passes is what they have rookie QBs focus on to stay out of trouble.
To have quick short passes be the key to victory is downright scary.
The Raiders need all hands on deck to fix that right now.
Won’t be a later in the year worth following if they don’t
September 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
StraitOutofComptonRaidr Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
In football you can throw a flag on every single possesion it is up to the Refs to make that interpretation.Bills were flaged ZERO times in the second half. Please!!!! That is Bulll Shhht
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Truth…
Said the EXACT same thing and got ran outta town…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RaiderfanNY Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Seymour can talk all he wants about the Bills’ smart game-plan and execution.
But none of the players are addressing the lack of effort on the part of the defense. On running plays, no one was penetrating the line or hitting Fred Jackson — which had nothing to do with Buffalo’s short passing game.
There was NO gang-tackling. No hitting. All arm-tackles and guys flailing at ball carriers.
The defense had no energy, no zip, no passion. Seymour and Kelly got pushed around. Houston and Shaughnessy were shut down by below-average tackles.
Instead of being upset on Monday, how about making a play or two on Sunday? Buffalo had 326 years on 40 plays in the second half — an AVERAGE OF 8.15 yards. That’s what happens when Ohio State plays Indiana.
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Yes….this man here saw exactly what I saw. Seymour and Kelly just not consistent enough to be truly great as a combo. They an be solid to good but they arent terrors for weeks upon weeks.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Funny last year people were killing Jc, and i countered with he needs protection and pass catchers.
Suddenly this year the wr group is emerging and he is getting pass protection and Jc looks like an all pro.
Guess i was right
September 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
The offense turned the ball over and swung the momentum of the entire game….DMAC
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BA&ce,
Totally agree on the momentum. But that’s also life on the road.
Defense can’t allow 5 consecutive drives that all start in Buffalo territory.
The offense will have a turnover or INT here and there….defense can’t fold like that.
Last week they didn’t fold against Denver after the Jacoby fumble….
What happened last week was a disaster for the defense.
They have to learn from it and take it to the Jets….simple as that
September 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
n AVERAGE OF 8.15 yards. That’s what happens when Ohio State plays Indiana.
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XBOX…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
StraitOutofComptonRaidr Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
In football you can throw a flag on every single possesion it is up to the Refs to make that interpretation.Bills were flaged ZERO times in the second half. Please!!!! That is Bulll Shhht
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Truth…
Said the EXACT same thing and got ran outta town…
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Yeah guys we know the refs have it out for us. Come on we dont have to cite the examples. Gotta rise above it or just shut down the franchise….give up.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I’ll tell you what happened.
He isn’t injured. Now that he is healthy he cant use the injury excuse.
He is on the field and guess what he aint ALL that. Never has been never was. Where the Chaz hype came from I have no idea but I didn’t suckered.
The end
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# Thec07 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
WTF happened to Chaz???
September 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
I would have liked to see a bit more zone in the second half. Especially with CJ37 struggling the way he was. I think that would have helped against those short passes and quick throws.
I think we’ll be better at that as the year goes on and we continue to practice it
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They better get better at it this week.
Quick short passes is what they have rookie QBs focus on to stay out of trouble.
To have quick short passes be the key to victory is downright scary.
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blog favorite brady gannon and manning make a living with exactly that approach
September 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
That was one of the worst games ever if you care about defense
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The first half was as good a defensive performance as we’ve seen from the Raiders.
We were ONE play away 4 different times on that last drive from bringing it home. 3 dropped INTs and a 3rd down penalty on CJ37.
Old Mo and the crowd make strange things happen. DMac shouldn’t have fumbled.
It’s early. I liked what I saw from a lot of things on the team yesterday. I think things like Nick Miller returning punts and CJ37 looking likea UFL player can easily be corrected.
We are still in first place in our division mayne!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Yeah guys we know the refs have it out for us. Come on we dont have to cite the examples. Gotta rise above it or just shut down the franchise….give up.
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truth
September 19th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Well i will tell you this, they wont be coming out flat on REDEMPTION SUNDAY…IF these guys have any heart they will wax the jest… I want to see sanchez leave the game…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I think Moore or Smooth is Randy Moss Jr. I think we got someone to tak ehis place in the league.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
O-line is hardly a question mark thus far. They are opening holes and pass blocking and they are young! We have something nice going on there.
D-line?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Jhill,
Offense played very well.
Defense crapped out.
Gotta fix the defense moving forward.
There is no sugar to coat on that turd the defense put out there
September 19th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Anyone going in on the D is all good with me…
FAIR game…
5 TD’s in 5 possessions…GTF outta here…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Hagan looked like a beefed up Tim Brown out there moving those chains.
Raider Rockstar who called it? Did I not say this guy was going to be beast ofr what? No band wagon here I knew he could move those chains. Top 3 WRs on this team. May be the #1 if Moore was not there.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
SnB,
Compare this team to the road game you attended in NY.
Not even close man. We have come so far. We were literally a CJ37 away from being 2-0 yesterday. I trust that Rod Woodson will get that situation corrected between CJ37, DVD, or Chekwa before that position costs us another loss.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
10.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Fitzpatrick attempted 46 passes without being sacked
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tough pill to swallow
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#1 reason why we lost the game.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
The offense turned the ball over and swung the momentum of the entire game….DMAC
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BA&ce,
Totally agree on the momentum. But that’s also life on the road.
Defense can’t allow 5 consecutive drives that all start in Buffalo territory.
The offense will have a turnover or INT here and there….defense can’t fold like that.
Last week they didn’t fold against Denver after the Jacoby fumble….
What happened last week was a disaster for the defense.
They have to learn from it and take it to the Jets….simple as that
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I agree totally. Its a tough one to lose but I’m not hurt. You were there so damn I bet its tragic but we got a good damn team. San Diego losing was cool. That’s our competition. Winning division is our focus. A division winner gets a home playoff game. I like my chances then.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
10.RaiderRockstar Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Fitzpatrick attempted 46 passes without being sacked
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tough pill to swallow
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#1 reason why we lost the game.
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Yup no wonder CJ got smoked to that level.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Is it just me, or does M.Huff and RoloMac the same type of “tacklers” they both tackle high, try to wrestle the player down or arm tackle. The only reason RoloMac gets away with it is because of his size. At the end they both miss way to many tackles.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Worst half of football by any NFL team since 1993 according to scouts Inc. I just don’t see them being an average NFL defense within a weeks time. Bresnehan and al are solely responsible for the state if the defense.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Satele and Carlisle worry me in the run blocking game. I cant lie. Just not stout against the beastly interior lineman
September 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
The offense will have a turnover or INT here and there….defense can’t fold like that.
Last week they didn’t fold against Denver after the Jacoby fumble….
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Good points.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Sad seeing players, and fans running the “we is da raiders, and we always get jobbed”.
Man up.
Crying and whining is for losers.
It’s been proven as many calls go for the Raiders as against.
bad calls had nothing to do with it.
so stfu already
September 19th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
It hurt big time being there…and having to walk out of that stadium with that damn “Shout” song playing.
But, in a nod to Jhill, watching that offense live like that was cool….I almost jumped on to the field after the Hagan TD.
The Raiders had the Bills down and out going into the 2nd half and let them hang around…
One stop by the D would have ended the game.
Bills fans were in awe of Moore….funny to hear the cursing after the 50 yard bomb….
Oh well…
Great offense to build and the defense should finally have flushed the “mistakes and lack of concentration” down the commode
September 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
“not hagan” moore TD
September 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
It all starts up front.
The LB’s need the front four to smash.
The DB’s need the front 4 to smash.
Our Db’s looked just fine in Den, our front 4 were ballin and blitz’s weren’t on film yet. Buff gets paid too they saw those blitz’s and adjusted.
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Yall outta listen to Mista more often….this is fact. CJ is an good CB when you got some pressure.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Outplayed, ouhtustled and definitely outcoached – top to bottom. No one should be spared criticism for this debacle. Embarrassing.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
If you’re not getting pressure on the QB, you have to get pressure on the QB.
If 4 is not working bring 5.
Giving Bresnahan a lead, only makes him softer.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Look at the SB.
Look at that Saints-GB game opening night.
The good teams are going to put points on the board. If we continue to put ip 28+ points week in and week out, we will win the division, SnB.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
35 points…. in a half… 5 consecutive TD possessions…
That is what happens when you have a hack for a D coordinator.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
It hurt big time being there…and having to walk out of that stadium with that damn “Shout” song playing.
But, in a nod to Jhill, watching that offense live like that was cool….I almost jumped on to the field after the Hagan TD.
The Raiders had the Bills down and out going into the 2nd half and let them hang around…
One stop by the D would have ended the game.
Bills fans were in awe of Moore….funny to hear the cursing after the 50 yard bomb….
Oh well…
Great offense to build and the defense should finally have flushed the “mistakes and lack of concentration” down the commode
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The Jets will have our undivided attention…so will the Patriots. These are the games to come to cuz it wont be the same after this
September 19th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
The Oline did play well. I was waiting for DMAC to break the big run. Didn’t happen
September 19th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
If you’re not getting pressure on the QB, you have to get pressure on the QB.
If 4 is not working bring 5.
Giving Bresnahan a lead, only makes him softer.
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Kell…..we blitzed but these dudes werent getting pressure still. Its amazing that people wanna be on Bresnahan to this level. We know he isnt a good DC, but those players gave a piss poor effort
September 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
I could not post all day
September 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
StraitOutofComptonRaidr Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
The Oline did play well. I was waiting for DMAC to break the big run. Didn’t happen
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Its coming….he the best RB in the league if he is healthy….that’s a fa sho
September 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
What I liked in the Denver game was a mixed up plan of blitzes. Against Buffalo, there were hardly any blitzes at all. Seemed like a ‘vanilla’ defense in comparison with last week. We had NO pass rush whatsoever… Do you think the reduction of blitzes was a command from Al D. or Chuck sleeping at the wheel??
September 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
If you think that flags are not a reason for loosing a game, then you are a fool.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
CJ is an good CB when you got some pressure.
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The ball was coming out quicker than 3 seconds.
“I don’t think he ever held onto it longer than 3,” Seymour said.
That is the equivalent of getting pressure on the QB. CJ was holding and getting beat off the LOS. That last play of the game where he just let his man go and peeled off to cover Spiller was inexcusible. He knew it too which is why he sat there and just held his helmet like he knew he fell for the okie doke.
Woodson will straighten him out though.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
I could not post all day
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Sup exla? What do ya think so far? I say we’re good
September 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
by CorkOnTheNFL
The Raiders recently tried out WR Shaun Bodiford, according to a league source.
4 minutes ago
problem solved!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
That brings back the question WHY were the Raiders not able to counter the short passing game? Lack of vision by the Def Cord thats why. I saw nothing but a glazed look on his face.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
StraitOutofComptonRaidr Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
If you think that flags are not a reason for loosing a game, then you are a fool.
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Its whatever man….in life you got obstacles and odds….gotta rise above it. We know BS will be called on us. Gotta be able to overcome.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
by CorkOnTheNFL
The Raiders recently tried out WR Shaun Bodiford, according to a league source.
4 minutes ago
problem solved!
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Peace Nicki Miller
September 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
He could go to work at Krispie Creme with that glazed look.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Nick Miller could not return a kick if he had a clear lane to the End Zone. He would probably trip or fumble.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
That brings back the question WHY were the Raiders not able to counter the short passing game? Lack of vision by the Def Cord thats why. I saw nothing but a glazed look on his face.
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They couldnt stop a damn thing
September 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Glad to hear the boys say the right stuff,
now get out on the field and show us you learned from this…
September 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
ok i’ve falled off the romac train.
he was terrible yesterday…bad angles, missed tackles.
i wanted to believe good things about him, but yesterday he disappointed.
vontaze would be berfect as a raider imho…our 1st round draft choice should be unanimous if he is still available. how long has it been since dr death patrolled the middle of our defense and struck fear into opposing players minds.
btw…my man king richard whiffed on a few tackles as well…fatigue? he gets a hall pass cause he is the leader of our defense.
bring me vontaze mr davis!!!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
That game is gonna be hard to re-watch, but I didn’t see hardly any blitzing at all, especially in the 2nd half.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
*fallen
September 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Never seen so many delusion comments in my life.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I made a 9 hour round trip to watch that crap in the secondary. Stevie Wonder probably could get a sense of where the ball was going better than Johnson. He’s gone and I’m over it but without Nnamdi, we got problems.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
HuJack doesnt seem to have trust in rookies. Took an Injury for him to play moore. Now that N Miller stunk it up is that enough for Taiwan Jones to return kicks?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Huey better get on Chuck B and the defensive players azzes this whole week.
The whole team will NOT get where it needs to go with the defense having serious leaks like that.
Raiders have GREAT depth at WR now and Chaz, DHB and even Murphy better step the hell up or one if not two of the three will may not be here next year!
Moore and Hagan both proved they can make plays that DHB can’t.
No way DHB catches that ball while being double teamed for a TD like Moore did. No way in hell!
No way DHB makes those tough over the middle catches while being covered tight like Hagan did either!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Nick Miller’s performance is somehow linked to our defensive’s..
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
by CorkOnTheNFL
The Raiders recently tried out WR Shaun Bodiford, according to a league source.
4 minutes ago
problem solved!
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WR is definitely not the glaring weakness on this team anymore… C’mon Al, WTF??? Pony up and go get the Ill-gals’ misfit DB DRC already!!… Like an earlier post read, put Rod Woodson back on the field, those boys need some damn help!!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
N Miller tackled himself on the 8 yard line got up and ran for at least another 6 yards what more do you want from him?
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# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Nick Miller could not return a kick if he had a clear lane to the End Zone. He would probably trip or fumble.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Any WR that has JaCampbell’s trust needs to be on the field every snap. JC played kick a NFL QB against the Bills.
We need to score 50+ per game to make the playoffs with this Defense.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
raiderinpa Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
by CorkOnTheNFL
The Raiders recently tried out WR Shaun Bodiford, according to a league source.
4 minutes ago
problem solved!
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WR is definitely not the glaring weakness on this team anymore… C’mon Al, WTF??? Pony up and go get the Ill-gals’ misfit DB DRC already!!… Like an earlier post read, put Rod Woodson back on the field, those boys need some damn help!!
this seals Nmillers fate
September 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Lucky for you that you have nothing but time to re-watch games. Nothing goin on in the real estate market, purp lips took care of that! Nothing going on atthe barbershop either huh ?
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# KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
That game is gonna be hard to re-watch, but I didn’t see hardly any blitzing at all, especially in the 2nd half.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
N Miller tackled himself on the 8 yard line got up and ran for at least another 6 yards what more do you want from him?
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Thanks for reminding me. Maybe the turf was too long.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Think about this… There is a coach who is also responsible for Millers suck yesterday. There has to be a point where they tell him just take a knee kid. Take a damn knee. Why he kept trying to run out is beyond me.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
That game is gonna be hard to re-watch, but I didn’t see hardly any blitzing at all, especially in the 2nd half.
Can’t keep blitzing when your guys still arnt getting pressure.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
There were maybe 3 blitzes the whole 2nd half!
Chuck B played wuss defense against the Bills offense.
I told you all this during the week.
They needed to get to Fitz and cover his primary targets cause he stares them down. Instead Chuck B lets Fitz pick them apart with short stuff?
Lame!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
“It’s easy,” Seymour said in terms of getting over the Bills loss. “As a competitor, as a player, you want to get back on the field. I wish we had a Thursday night game this week”
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Does that mean he did not suffer any little dings?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Blitz and cover the hot read underneath stuff! Simple.
Chuck B and the defensive players freakin blew it!!
Period!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Lucky for you that you have nothing but time to re-watch games. Nothing goin on in the real estate market, purp lips took care of that! Nothing going on atthe barbershop either huh ?
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Whatever BrownStains, I know you’re sooooooooooo successful and busy.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Is Shaun Bodiford a good return guy?
September 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Miller needs to be cut and Lito Sheppard needs to be signed!!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Mikedlopes Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Nick Miller’s performance is somehow linked to our defensive’s..
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Wonderful observation
September 19th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
141.Mum-O-killowe Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Can’t keep blitzing when your guys still arnt getting pressure.
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You have to get pressure, any way you can! But you have to get it.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
148.Method To My Madness Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Mikedlopes Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Nick Miller’s performance is somehow linked to our defensive’s..
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Wonderful observation
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Yeah, they are linked. They both didn’t show up to play and if they did, they STUNK!!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
KK the clown, if this is going to be your comeback you are better off not responding.
Just trying to help you out!
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# KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Whatever BrownStains, I know you’re sooooooooooo successful and busy.
September 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Huey better get on Chuck B and the defensive players azzes this whole week.
The whole team will NOT get where it needs to go with the defense having serious leaks like that.
Raiders have GREAT depth at WR now and Chaz, DHB and even Murphy better step the hell up or one if not two of the three will may not be here next year!
Moore and Hagan both proved they can make plays that DHB can’t.
No way DHB catches that ball while being double teamed for a TD like Moore did. No way in hell!
No way DHB makes those tough over the middle catches while being covered tight like Hagan did either!!
September 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I think N Miller’s perf is directly related to the old man not cutting him his rookie year when he was on IR! Or, maybe tj calling him Nick Miller the DB Killer!
Take your pick…
September 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Kell…the front four dictates a defense. Ours wasnt with the business
September 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Nick Miller the Drive Start Killer…
Kid had us back inside the 20 everytime they kicked off. He really shouldn’t be taking up a roster spot anymore…the UFL needs players too.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
was last nights defense better than the Prevent Defense R.Ryan use to play? hahaha
September 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
we gotta stop being so conservative with not letting our starters return punts. Ford Moore and or TJ should be the returnmen we need all the yardage we can get/scores we can get
September 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Speaking of a POS def coor is dallas ready to fire R Ryan yet ?
September 19th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I think N Miller’s perf is directly related to the old man not cutting him his rookie year when he was on IR! Or, maybe tj calling him Nick Miller the DB Killer!
Take your pick…
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People thought were getting Wes Welker lol
September 19th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
154.Method To My Madness Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Kell…the front four dictates a defense. Ours wasnt with the business
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Even 3-4 defenses? You have to get pressure, period. If the front 4 is not getting it, you have to bring others.
You CANNOT continue to play defense without pressuring the QB!!!!!!!!
September 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Hagan Moore and Ford should be our top 3 receviers but DHB has his strengths we can exploit as the well. DB’s give him space so quick passes to him with his size and speed the guy can get some YAC. We have solid WR depth finally
September 19th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
VanHeathen Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Nick Miller the Drive Start Killer…
Kid had us back inside the 20 everytime they kicked off. He really shouldn’t be taking up a roster spot anymore…the UFL needs players too.
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And we kept him over JLH….too funny. But Taiwan Jones may as well get in the game now. Stop holding these youngsters back. We closer than people think from being very damn explosive
September 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
what happened to NMiller being such a playmaker in previous preseasons? The guy didn’t capitalize on his opportunities
September 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
“Hagan Moore and Ford should be our top 3 receivers”
I agree however….DHB will start on Sunday and we will all be here complaining about it.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Chaz, DHB, Miller = dead weight
If Hue doesn’t wakeup to this its going to be a long year!
Thankfully our div is weak as hell
September 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Some good news…mangold’s replacement is a rookie 3rd string center…time to go to work Seymour…and time for Kelly to step it up after throwing his teammates under the bus…..
“The injury comes at a particularly difficult time for the Jets, who have three straight road games. It starts Sunday at the Oakland Raiders, followed by games at the Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots. The crowd noise will make it hard on Mangold’s replacement, rookie Colin Baxter.
Baxter is their third-string center, picked up on waivers only three weeks ago. The Jets lost their backup center, Rob Turner, to a broken leg in the first preseason game. Turner still is on the active roster, but he’s at least a month away from returning. These days, he’s getting around on a motorized scooter.”
September 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
154.Method To My Madness Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Kell…the front four dictates a defense. Ours wasnt with the business
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Even 3-4 defenses? You have to get pressure, period. If the front 4 is not getting it, you have to bring others.
You CANNOT continue to play defense without pressuring the QB!!!!!!!!
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Kell we aren’t talking about 3-4 defenses. We dont play that. We tried blitzing some in the game and wasnt even successful at it. We werent successful at schit defensively. We will be fine tho.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Ford, Murphy and DHB did not suit up last week. Thats why Bodiford is there.
Get on the hot line with Al and have him do something, anything.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
raiderdeek Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Some good news…mangold’s replacement is a rookie 3rd string center…time to go to work Seymour…and time for Kelly to step it up after throwing his teammates under the bus…..
“The injury comes at a particularly difficult time for the Jets, who have three straight road games. It starts Sunday at the Oakland Raiders, followed by games at the Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots. The crowd noise will make it hard on Mangold’s replacement, rookie Colin Baxter.
Baxter is their third-string center, picked up on waivers only three weeks ago. The Jets lost their backup center, Rob Turner, to a broken leg in the first preseason game. Turner still is on the active roster, but he’s at least a month away from returning. These days, he’s getting around on a motorized scooter.”
Let’s sell out the home opener and wild out. Let’s rattle the rookie C into some false starts, and perhaps bad snaps
September 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
“Hagan Moore and Ford should be our top 3 receivers”
I agree however….DHB will start on Sunday and we will all be here complaining about it.
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That’s what so disappointing…Ford and DHB will prolly get the nod
September 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
That’s fine let them start for 2 series then put in the players who produce. It doesn’t matter who starts, just get the others in at some point.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
How about making East coast teams play games at 10:00 AM……….Are you freaking kidding me????? If a west coast team comes East, make the game at 4:00 Eastern…..how about an even playing field??? Chargers play at 4:00 pm eastern at the patriots???? Raiders will continue to get hosed by the NFL….. Short week, a later than usual 10:30 PM eastern time Monday Night Football game, then a 10:00AM game the next week ……watta joke
September 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Morilla Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
That’s fine let them start for 2 series then put in the players who produce. It doesn’t matter who starts, just get the others in at some point.
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Man what sense does that make to have two series that end in punts and not points?
September 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
PA-RAIDER Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
How about making East coast teams play games at 10:00 AM……….Are you freaking kidding me????? If a west coast team comes East, make the game at 4:00 Eastern…..how about an even playing field??? Chargers play at 4:00 pm eastern at the patriots???? Raiders will continue to get hosed by the NFL….. Short week, a later than usual 10:30 PM eastern time Monday Night Football game, then a 10:00AM game the next week ……watta joke
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But it wont kill us its only gonna make us stronger. We just gonna kick down walls this season. So be it. I like our chances
September 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
171.morilla Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
That’s fine let them start for 2 series then put in the players who produce. It doesn’t matter who starts, just get the others in at some point.
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I disagree. Every posession counts.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
I feel Hue needs I-form and run that ball on those first series. I have no clue why he has started off the first two games with very questionable calls. Well we shall see. Offense did look better but I believe Bush can be big for these next home games
September 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
See yall later
September 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
“I disagree. Every posession counts.”
Good point!
September 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I agree that every possession counts guys. But I also understand that certain players are going to start regardless of what anyone has to say about it.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Everyone up in arms at chuck b. plain and simple he played zone and man. nothing was working. If he would have played ryans D, rushing 1 d lineman and dropping 10, it still wouldnt have been right. Give Chuck a break he wasnt padded up and on the field.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
J Hill Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Look at the SB.
Look at that Saints-GB game opening night.
The good teams are going to put points on the board. If we continue to put ip 28+ points week in and week out, we will win the division, SnB.
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Shouldn’t be either / or. One doesn’t have to do with the other unless you are paying significantly more dollars than the other side.
The Raiders are paying Seymour (highest paid defensive player in NFL), Wimbley, Kelly, Routt and are paying 1st round contracts to McClain…not sure what Huff is getting.
Point is…the Raider defense is being paid well enough to not be giving up 35 points in the 2nd half to an average team.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
I’m sick of hearing the same sh!t come out of the mouths of these defensive players.
The awe shucks, it hurts, give the Bills credit, and we just have to get better crap is done.
This defense is ate up with stupid. They CAN’T play football.
They don’t understand their own scheme. They don’t know where their assignments are, they can’t make reads properly, they can’t anticipate what the offense is doing.
They are convinced they can just use their athletic ability to react and be more physical.
They got outplayed and outcoached by an opponent they had no business losing to.
They should stop talking to the media and get their heads in practice and films to see if they can correct this mess.
Unfortunately, history and common sense teaches us you can’t fix stupid.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Raiders on NFL replay Wednesday at 8pm
fitzpatrick was mic’d up
September 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
The Raiders defense should spend the entire week doing tackling drills.
Raiders-30 jets-23
September 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Ohh, The Monday Pain. Who missed the assignment on the td play
September 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Tackling isnt the issue getting to the Qb is.
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Pretty Rick Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
The Raiders defense should spend the entire week doing tackling drills.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
I hope the defense is totally embarrassed and goes out and plays like it.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
We need Mike Mitchell and Kevin Boss that right there gets rid of Giorgiano and Myers. lots of mistake all around,…we should have had trveor scott or shaunnessy drop back in coverage on some of those quick outs.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
185.SharkCatcher Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Ohh, The Monday Pain. Who missed the assignment on the td play
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I’m still not quite sure but I think it was McClain…i hate watching the replay because it hurts more and more every time. Anybody know the answer for sure?
September 19th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
The Bills are who we thought they were. if you want guys want to crown their asses then go ahead and crown them….we had them where we wanted them and we let me off the hook!!!!!”
September 19th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Agreed post #188
Even if we dropped both DE’s back would have made Qb think later on drives
September 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Our defense is always going to stink keeping these same defensive backs. Should cut CJ37 now and bring back Lito Shepard, get rid of Branch and Tommy Kelly. Experiment keep Kelly off the line and try someone else next to Seymour and see if all improves. Need to get rid of CJ for sure. Would like to see Branch and Huff be gone too. Get rid of Nick Miller and bring Sterling Moore off the practice squad, he is better than DVD.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
N Miller tackled himself on the 8 yard line got up and ran for at least another 6 yards what more do you want from him?
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Thanks for reminding me. Maybe the turf was too long.
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The Buffalo groundskeeping crew used extra thick chalk in the lines!
September 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Mistabrown,,I understand what you’re sayn but if the defense made tackles Fred Jackson wouldn’t have ran for 117yds, and the bills wouldn’t have converted a bunch of 3rd downs, which resulted in TDs.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
189.raiderdeek Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
185.SharkCatcher Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Ohh, The Monday Pain. Who missed the assignment on the td play
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I’m still not quite sure but I think it was McClain…i hate watching the replay because it hurts more and more every time. Anybody know the answer for sure?
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ok i just watched it over and over…i don’t think it was McClain’s fault…whoever was lined up just inside of CJ37 was likely at fault…
September 19th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
I swear after Miller tripped himself I just started to laugh out loud. It was a comedy of errors with that guy. Even the Bills fans saw what was going on with him.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
I heard that was Wimbleys guy.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Mista,
did you read the article?
There were plays when the Raider DLineman went UNTOUCHED at Fitz and the ball was out before he could get there.
The only guy that could have pressured Fitz yesterday is an unblocked Usain Bolt.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Maybe I need to look again but I dont remember a huge amount of missed tackles. I saw alot of him running free though and the Qb was hardly touched.
September 19th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
previous poster says:
“We tried blitzing some in the game and wasnt even successful at it. We werent successful at schit defensively. We will be fine tho.”
Why will we be fine?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Yes, I been saying all day we didnt get to the Qb. You have to find a way to do something in 3 secs or every team from here on out is going to 3 step drop us to death.
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alex7 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Mista,
did you read the article?
There were plays when the Raider DLineman went UNTOUCHED at Fitz and the ball was out before he could get there.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
It’s saying something when you can’t even cover recievers for two seconds to give you DL a chance to get there.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Local radio has called out Jc all during the off season and especially after the Thursday night opener rodgers vs brees.
They claimed “campbell cant do that”.
Today i have been texting and trying to get them to admit they were wrong, or at least acknowledge his performance, they simply gloss it over and act as if it didnt happen.
maybe some of these locla radio guys are secretly on this blog under known jc hating handles.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Dbs need to do a better job of jamming the receivers at the line to throw off the timing.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
It’s for sure that every team we play will do the same thing until we show we can stop it. The NFL is a legue of copycats.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
We blizted but it was just Terrible to say the least. I saw a bunch of players running into a pile,,,no creativity at all. If they’re gona blitz like that then it’s not even worth it.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
165.MistaBrown Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Chaz, DHB, Miller = dead weight
If Hue doesn’t wakeup to this its going to be a long year!
Thankfully our div is weak as hell
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Yes. Thank christ the AFC West is weak!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Chuck B is a PO chit!!
Just like most of us thought when old man Al hired is crappy azz!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
DHB Ford and Moore starting Sunday. Just as they should be. Hagan, while productive didn’t do anything that DHB didn’t do last game. Moore is really going to help open the offense up.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Who’s holding Pryor’s spot? I got a bad feeling it’s gonna be Hagen. Miller is too golden for some fkn reason.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
will some one please explain why chuck b is taking heat. he had guys in spots to clinch the game and alter it in are favor sevarl times and they whiffed, how is this chuck b’s fault
September 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
chuck b called blitzes mixed zone and man, he did evrything but get on the field, the players failed to execute, no excuses fro their miserable play
September 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
211.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
will some one please explain why chuck b is taking heat. he had guys in spots to clinch the game and alter it in are favor sevarl times and they whiffed, how is this chuck b’s fault
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5 TD’s in 5 second half posessions, dumbass. You’re looking for a signpost to argue with, AGAIN!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
morilla Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Dbs need to do a better job of jamming the receivers at the line to throw off the timing.
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This guy we used to have named Nnamdi was the best at doing that.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
211.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
will some one please explain why chuck b is taking heat. he had guys in spots to clinch the game and alter it in are favor sevarl times and they whiffed, how is this chuck b’s fault
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5 TD’s in 5 second half posessions, dumbass. You’re looking for a signpost to argue with, AGAIN!
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Any D Coordinator would be feeling the heat. its not personal.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
“5 TD’s in 5 second half possessions”
Pretty much says it all!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
211.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
will some one please explain why chuck b is taking heat. he had guys in spots to clinch the game and alter it in are favor sevarl times and they whiffed, how is this chuck b’s fault
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5 TD’s in 5 second half posessions, dumbass. You’re looking for a signpost to argue with, AGAIN!
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Dumbass? what about players being accountable. On every one of those drives there were chance to get off the field and stop the bleeding or take the ball away. Chuck b had them in the right spots and the players failed.
can you counter this fact?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
“Any D Coordinator would be feeling the heat. its not personal.”
So true!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
mcclain not the answer at mlb.
draft vontaze!!!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
assante samual, rodgers cromartie and namdi gave up 35 points last night too, so i guess that isnt the difference.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
“Chuck b had them in the right spots and the players failed.”
Sure that happened some of the time but how do you know that every play he had the right formation or scheme to prevent the play at hand?
You don’t so get off your high horse and go write some more emails to the local sports casters!
September 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
I know Heyer was out and we did not miss him. Can anybody break down the rest of the O Line performance. We “obviously” are going to need to score a %&&%# load of points with them.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
vontaze me bro
September 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Well some people like stats, others don’t. But so far the Raider O-Line is ranked #3 in the NFL………
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&tabSeq=2&qualified=true
September 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Skimming thru the posts, and noticed that a lot of YOU PEOPLE have been awful harsh on Chucky B…
We all need to take a deep breath, and cut him some slack…
I mean how do you expect him to make correct adjustments. When OBVIOUSLY he has his head so far up his backside, he’s oblivious to what’s going on around him…
Bresh. will be fine. As soon as the Doctor can remove his head from his azz….
September 19th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I love all this monday quarterback stuff goin on in this blog. I dont see anyone in here coaching are owning a nfl team. Everyone knows what plays to run how to cover on D. What recievers to start. I believe in this coaching staff and yes the owner. Amy die hard raider fan will support this team i dont see that here. Lots of complaing everyone has there fav players on the team then other than that everyone else sucks. I love this team we have other then miller. All i got to say is support this team and its players, coaches so on if mot raider nation dont need you.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
loss feels alot like last years loss to the jags except that loss severly damaged our playoff hopes and this is the 2nd game of the season. beat the Jets and the bad taste is gone. Go Raiders
September 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Well some people like stats, others don’t. But so far the Raider O-Line is ranked #3 in the NFL………
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&tabSeq=2&qualified=true
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Seattle is ranked 31st… So much for the Raiders losing their exceptional line coach in cable and the best lineman in Gallery.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
141.Mum-O-killowe Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Can’t keep blitzing when your guys still arnt getting pressure.
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You have to get pressure, any way you can! But you have to get it.
Very true Mr. Kell
September 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Robert Gallery, guard for the Seahawks, is out four to six weeks because he needs groin surgery
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who didn’t see this coming?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Funny how everyone seems to forget that when Chuck was brought back to the Raiders org. he didn’t even have a title. He was on ice for what…2 months while the org tried to find a DC. Nobody but Nobody wanted the job. Not even Waufle. Chuck’s fault? Yep at times but the Raiders organization’s failure to hire a qualified DC seems to be a minor issue.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
“Everyone knows what plays to run how to cover on D. What recievers to start”
“I love this team we have other then miller”
So apparently its “OK” for you to be down on a player but the rest of us are just retarded?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Mistic,
I think there’s a little more shame in giving up 35+ points to the 4-12 Bills than to the playoff Falcons.
Also, between the Eagles and Raiders, only one of those units is constantly in the top-10 overall Defenses, and can look at 35 points allowed as an aberration.
It isn’t us.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Raiders for Life
I was talking about the value of a D-Coordinator last year on here. Making the point that, honestly, I’d pay $5 to $8 million a year just for Dick Lebeau, he’s THAT valuable to the defense, AND SAVES money being able to plug in average talent and get above-average results without having to pay TOP MONEY for top talent like we have to in our scheme.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I’ve just got to wonder with the media being all over the Bill’s nutsack for being 2-0, what happens if D-WOW comes down with that Hail Mary? Would my beloved Raiders be getting those same props? We had been leading the game 15 seconds before that. Soup moved us close enough to heave a bomb into the EZ with one tick left. Based on D-WOW’s performance in the game, he had every chance of coming down with it. I feel like if the defense can get it alittle more together, we can beat the Jets AND the Cheats.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
“Robert Gallery, guard for the Seahawks, is out four to six weeks because he needs groin surgery”
I told my brother who lives in Seattle when they signed Gallery, that he is a “play 3 or 4 games and then miss 6 games” kind of player.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Two questions:
1. Do we beat the Bills if we still had Asomugha?
2. Is Rolando McClain just a Kirk Morrions version 2?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Morrison
September 19th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
wasbanned Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Robert Gallery, guard for the Seahawks, is out four to six weeks because he needs groin surgery
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who didn’t see this coming?
Our Oline doing the job. Mcfadden is what 2nd in rushing and Jcampbell has all day
September 19th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
The big news was they cleaned up the pre-snap violations – like no kidding -and allowed JC time to throw the deep ball.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
man to man needs 11 TOP-PAID top-performers to make it work.
3-4 zone mix needs about 4 high-paid guys (NT, 2 LBers, Safety) and a bunch of average, solid parts to make it work.
We run an EXPENSIVE yet ineffective D scheme. Double Whammy.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
When you get a team down, especially a bad team, you have to stomp them while they’re down.
Chuck Bresnahan goes to a prevent D.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
I like that Chuck is playing more zone than I’ve ever seen.
I DON’T like that Raider players have RARELY practiced it much and thus aren’t that good at it yet.
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Which of course means Al will ask D-Coordinator to scrap it, fulfilling the crazy cycle.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
“We run an EXPENSIVE yet ineffective D scheme. Double Whammy.”
Which is why we cant pay a D coordinator good money to come here.
Good point Alex7
September 19th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
McClain in college was an ILB in a 3-4.
That meant slightly less field to cover, more strict assignments.
With Oakland’s 4-3, he’s being asked to range more, and he’s not doing it well.
I like his pass D, but run D…ehh, he needs to be in a tighter 3-4 attacking D, not a 4-3 wider react D.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
On any of those 5 second half Bills’ TD’s, just one important play by the D could have, would have won the game. Just one play by any one of the 11 Raider d-men on that last Bills’ drive would have won the game. There is no way we can lay the blame on anyone other than those eleven.
That’s a given. We lost. The D’s fault.
On another subject, the other team passed over 40 times. How many offensive holding calls? What are the odds on a game with this many passes, the o-linemen didn’t commit a hold?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Miller is the #1 candidate to get the axe after t. Pryor serves his 5 game suspension. … that dude sucks… apparently some people believe him as a versatile commodity. …. LOL.. that’s hilarious. …
September 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Chris Johnson needs to go back to “Prime U” and get his degree, at this point he isn’t even better than a beauty school drop-out.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
“Everyone knows what plays to run how to cover on D. What recievers to start”
“I love this team we have other then miller”
So apparently its “OK” for you to be down on a player but the rest of us are just retarded?
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ur seriously gonna use miller to make ur point. Sorry but he’s awfull you dont need to have nfl smarts to realize that.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Also did anybody notice Hue J. drinking the gatorade and no headset on with the clock winding down in the first half. At that point the head coach has got to be real focused worried about a let down after the half we played that would have been the number one thing to go after in the locker room. I’ll bet the rookie coach learned that big time. No the coaches can’t make the plays but they are 100 percent responsible for keeping people’s heads in the game all the way through. Most importantly the captains and the high priced guys. You have got to reach them because inside everybody was relaxing including them. I’m just sayin…
September 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
alex7 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
McClain in college was an ILB in a 3-4.
That meant slightly less field to cover, more strict assignments.
With Oakland’s 4-3, he’s being asked to range more, and he’s not doing it well.
I like his pass D, but run D…ehh, he needs to be in a tighter 3-4 attacking D, not a 4-3 wider react D.
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I guess this might explain it, but the bottom line is the guy is just not getting the job done.
On top of that, he looked gassed and out of shape yesterday.
My wife who watches little to no football said he looked like a little kid being made to do something he didn’t want to do.
That is just sad.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
I know I keep saying this every year, but at some point we have to look at the scheme and ask, “is it really the players? I saw Chris Johnson pulling a D. Hall and playing 10 yards off the WR. I never played NFL, but in High School, College, and simi pro, if I DB was 10 yards off in man coverage, I had a pretty good day. Why didn’t the coaches bring Johnson up 3 to 5 yards? I do not understand how at this level, you allow that much space between you and the WR….WOW
September 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Alex…
You know I was thinking about that…. would adjusting and going to a 3-4 vs Buffalo. . I wonder if that had helped… you know the jets will try to duplicate what Buffalo did yesterday… book it… raiders got a lot of work this week..
September 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Raiderdeek Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
185.SharkCatcher Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Ohh, The Monday Pain. Who missed the assignment on the td play
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I’m still not quite sure but I think it was McClain…i hate watching the replay because it hurts more and more every time. Anybody know the answer for sure?
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it was Rolando McCleezy
September 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
“ur seriously gonna use miller to make ur point. Sorry but he’s awfull you dont need to have nfl smarts to realize that.”
You just rambled on about how lame it is that a lot of us in here are complaining about certain players on the team then you complained about Miller.
You still cant see it?
September 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Bills are winning the superbowl its all over the news. The next big thing fitz is the new brady. Its funny how every monday these analyst blow everything up.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Guys this league has transformed into a short intermediate passing game league where you dump it off and they run for first downs. Brady is excelling at Brees is starting to do it Fitzpatrick didn’t throw a single pass downfield everything was crosses and short outs and seam routes.
Dlineman have to get much better at battting balls down and knocking the ball in th air especially from the interior line the DT’s. You just don’t get the time to rush the QB. All they want is a quick hit for 5 yards and a miss tackle gets 15 yards. Nobody is lining up and playing football anymore. That’s where guys like MM34 excel he can play the run and yet cover a quick hitter. RoMac has to stay disciplined because he will play the pass much more than the run stay in the center of the field and make drops.
I brought out earlier and lasty night that the teams going fropm coast to coast ezpecially on a short week have a decided disadvantage and I’m watching the “The Coaches” on NFLN and Jim Mora Jr. detailed the the travails very astutely if you get a chance give it a listen.
Specifically SnB you check it out……it explains what I was tyring to tell you earlier. But in a much nicer way.
September 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Nick Miller is so explosive on KOs, he $h!t his pants at the 5 and propelled to the 7
September 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
“ur seriously gonna use miller to make ur point. Sorry but he’s awfull you dont need to have nfl smarts to realize that.”
You just rambled on about how lame it is that a lot of us in here are complaining about certain players on the team then you complained about Miller.
You still cant see it?
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Its miller dude relax. Im not talking about good nfl players like half the people in here. The question is what who will people ask to be cut next weekend. Cause ill tell you what offense isnt gonna be as productive against the jets D as they where against the bills so my guess is half this blog gonna complain about the offense. I can see it now cut JC, cut DHB, cut this guy cut him. Its a rollercoaster around here.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Sup Nation, I hope you are all well.
I have been gone a long time due to the same bs from the team’s play drawing out over and over and over and over. But time heals all wounds, so I come to the blog renewed.
I have read all of the above.
It is as simple as this here. Nobody needs to be cut. The reason the Cheatriots are so good is that when a star goes down, an average dude steps in and plays like a star. It is their mindset. I despise those f u c k s, but that must be respected, and duplicated.
They need to look in their pants, find their n u t s, and start doing their f u c k i n g jobs, each and every one of them. The ones that suck badly now (yes,there are a good few of them) can improve quickly, the ones that are on the fence can improve very quickly, and the great ones can do even better. They merely need a kick up the a s s and inspiration, either to avoid unemployment or to gain pride. Perhaps a bit of both will suffice.
As for predictions, if the boys we saw in the first six quarters of the season show up on Sunday, the Jets lose. They won’t beat the stinking Cheatriots no matter how well they play. They just won’t. If the disgraceful b i t c h e s we saw in the last two quarters show up, both of the next two games will be severe poundings. Blame can be placed all over the shop, this guy, that guy, this coach, that coach. . . The reason for the mistakes is lack of heart (although arguably better than past seasons), lack of focus, and of not studying the schemes properly. They have the key to fixing it, have had it for years.
September 19th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
jmcclain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I love all this monday quarterback stuff goin on in this blog. I dont see anyone in here coaching are owning a nfl team. Everyone knows what plays to run how to cover on D. What recievers to start. I believe in this coaching staff and yes the owner. Amy die hard raider fan will support this team i dont see that here. Lots of complaing everyone has there fav players on the team then other than that everyone else sucks. I love this team we have other then miller. All i got to say is support this team and its players, coaches so on if mot raider nation dont need you.
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Oh, please. Your kind of chest thumping and mindless “my team right or wrong” is nauseating. What the hell do you think these blogs are for?
September 19th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
jmcclain Says:
September 19th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I love all this monday quarterback stuff goin on in this blog. I dont see anyone in here coaching are owning a nfl team. Everyone knows what plays to run how to cover on D. What recievers to start. I believe in this coaching staff and yes the owner. Amy die hard raider fan will support this team i dont see that here. Lots of complaing everyone has there fav players on the team then other than that everyone else sucks. I love this team we have other then miller. All i got to say is support this team and its players, coaches so on if mot raider nation dont need you.———————————————-
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Oh, please. Your kind of chest thumping and mindless “my team right or wrong” is nauseating. What the hell do you think these blogs are for?
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Precisely. These blogs are for us celebrate with our fellow Nation and to discuss, whinge, and b i t c h about our frustrations. And die hard Raider fans, at their heart, experience extreme anger at failure and incompetence. It is impossible to support every single player on any team, and it doesn’t diminish your S&B blood content when you don’t support one. If so, then none of us were “true” fans when JaC o c k s u c k e r was our QB, because most of us hated him.
November 12th, 2011 at 5:03 am
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November 12th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
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