Breakfast with Jets coach Rex Ryan
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am in Oakland Raiders.
New York Jets coach Rex Ryan isn’t kidding when he says he does things his way and always keeps his body clock on East Coast time. He spoke with the Bay Area media Wednesday morning, more than 2 hours before the Raiders begin practice.
As usual, Ryan had plenty of interesting things to say, including his love for rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore, how he thinks quarterback Jason Campbell is playing and how serious he was about signing former Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha to a long-term contract before this season started.
Here are a few tidbits from the conference call with Ryan, with more to come later.
On Moore, whom the Raiders selected in the fifth round of this year’s NFL draft:
“We really liked him, and I’m sure the young man can tell you that,” Ryan said. “We had him in for a visit. We really did like him. It never worked out for us. I tell you what, he had a huge game this past week, with about 150 yards receiving and a reverse for 25 yards. He really did a nice job. That catch he made in double coverage against Buffalo was big time.”
Ryan also said he recalls seeing Campbell before he entered the NFL.
“I just see a guy that has a bazooka for an arm,” Ryan said. “He can make all the throws. I remember going to his workout at Auburn, and he was sitting on a knee and threw the ball like 60 yards, and I was like, ‘Golllyyy.’ He has that kind of arm talent, he really does. He’s got some mobility and now he’s been in the league a long time, so he’s at his best right now. This is probably the best I’ve seen of Jason Campbell.”
Ryan has worked with numerous current Raiders coaches in the past. It’s obvious he holds them in high regard.
“I coached together with Hue (Jackson) and I coached together with John Fassel,” Ryan said. “Bob Wylie, I coached with (him) at the University of Cincinnati. Rod Woodson, of course, as a player. I know a lot of these guys. It’s good. They’re all good guys, passionate coaches. and I wish ‘em the best … except when they play us.”
Ryan dismissed the notion of the Jets being at a huge disadvantage without the services of center Nick Mangold this Sunday.
“Well, just like Darrelle Revis is the best corner in football, Nick Mangold is the best center in football,” Ryan said. “So, clearly that will hurt. There’s only one Nick Mangold in the league, but we’ve had to replace good players in the past. Revis went out for a couple of games last year. We had Kris Jenkins out, really played five games in two years. We’re a team, we’re not just individuals and all that stuff. We’re a team
“We’ll replace them. Next man steps up. As long as long as you’re wearing that Jet decal, you’re expected to play at a certain level and a certain temperment, and the next guy will be Baxter, and I’m sure he’ll do a good job.”
Ryan said the Jets went after Asomugha hard during the offseason and made an offer, which is more than the Raiders did.
“I’d say we definitely went after him,” Ryan said. “We made an offer to him that we thought was fair and we never came off it one bit. We just made the one offer, and he chose to sign somewhere else for more money. Obviously, we recognize he’s an outstanding player but that’s one that got away. We did not come off our offer one bit.”
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September 21st, 2011 at 8:52 am
1333.JR77 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am
1330.Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 8:44 am
7-9 talk is wimp schit
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oh yeah, I would have said 5-11 excpet KC is not what they were last year so there is your 7-9…unless we pick up Darren Sharper
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Wimp schit….weak coward
September 21st, 2011 at 8:55 am
I could live with 2-3 after this stretch we have coming up. 1-4 would be tough to rally back from, even though the schedule gets much easier at that point.
Of the three, I think this game vs. the Jets is the most winnable, especially with Mangold out against our d-line. To me, it’s very telling that the Jets are only 3 or 3.5 favorites in this one. I think the average betting fan jumps all over the Jets with that line. In my experience, lines that hook in the average betting fan in large numbers to one side portend well for the team on the other side. Basically, the big money has reason and knowledge to bet on the other team while the masses follow media hype and reputation built on past seasons rather than factors that actually matter.
September 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am
I said at the beginning of the year that we matchup better with the Jets than we do the Bills and maybe even the Broncos. Plus it is a home game, instead of MNF opener on the road, or a early morning East Coast game.
Sanches is the worst QB we have faced so far, and I think our offense is going to score points no matter who we play, so it will come down all season for us, if our defense can get some stops and turnovers, and hold teams under 24 points.
I think we can do that with the Jets, but we may need to score 40+ to beat the Pats the following week.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am
Yeah we better get this win from the jets because if our blitz is as weak as it was aginst the Bills Brady is going to rip our DBs to shreds just like Drew Breezeeee did in preseason.
Our DBs really concerned me. CJ was a concern from day 1. He goes from hot to cold all the time and is always guaranteed to pull something or tweek something. It was true there is no way to make up for the loss of a DB like Nam, but d@mn I get tired of watching other teams enjoy our developed Dbs like Nam and Woodson. If you are going to live and die by man to man paly you might as well invest in a top man to man DB.
I will be honest, I hope we win one of the two but I would be surprised if we won either game with our defense. No push up front with our DBs is a disaster in the making. We have to blow up their front line.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am
You can live with 2-3? Chris…i never see ya like this
September 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am
Buffalo game is gone. It is what it is. Playing on a short week, after a night game in high Denver altitude, it showed how tired the players were in the 2nd half. They simply ran out of gas. Its really that simple. Not making excuses for them, but physically, thats tough for anyone. I’ll take solace in the fact that Buffalo couldnt stop our O at all and we are going to be one of the most explosive teams in the league, scoring TDs. We knew we wouldnt win every game, and I’ll bet that we will end up winning a game or two that people counted as automatic losses. Moving on to Sunday, this is a beatable Jets team, that despite the score, looked horrible on O against a poor Jaguars team. Im excited for this game, despite the loss to Buffalo. I expect both teams to come out playing hard and trying to impose their will. This WILL be a good football game.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am
R8dercain Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 8:50 am
Ny post says al Davis called cromartie personally
an ask him to come to Oakland. An he opted to sign with the jets. Oh BTW we offered him more than the jets did.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am
The Jets came off their offer because #21 is nothing special. Some of us know this and some of us think #21 walks on water. If you are looking for a DB to do an adequate job covering his man, giving no help in run support, making 15-20 tackles in a entire season #21 is your man. Oh, also he can go 3 or 4 years without a single INT which is really nice if you want to keep your defense on the field for long stretches of time.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:07 am
Nice article3 on breaking down the Raiders o-line in the Bills game.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/9/20/2438570/oakland-raiders-vs-bills-week-2-breaking-down-the-o-line-tape
September 21st, 2011 at 9:08 am
3.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am
I said at the beginning of the year that we matchup better with the Jets than we do the Bills and maybe even the Broncos. Plus it is a home game, instead of MNF opener on the road, or a early morning East Coast game.
Sanches is the worst QB we have faced so far, and I think our offense is going to score points no matter who we play, so it will come down all season for us, if our defense can get some stops and turnovers, and hold teams under 24 points.
I think we can do that with the Jets, but we may need to score 40+ to beat the Pats the following week.
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This post is dead on
September 21st, 2011 at 9:10 am
Man fk the Bills game….schit over with…we dont need a breakdown of it
September 21st, 2011 at 9:10 am
8.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am
The Jets came off their offer because #21 is nothing special. Some of us know this and some of us think #21 walks on water. If you are looking for a DB to do an adequate job covering his man, giving no help in run support, making 15-20 tackles in a entire season #21 is your man. Oh, also he can go 3 or 4 years without a single INT which is really nice if you want to keep your defense on the field for long stretches of time.
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Mista B I use to put up the same argument as you do but there was one thing I did not consider. The fact that Namdi could blanket a WR that came to his side of the field all day long. This made it tough for QBs to dink and dunk on his side of the field.
It ws snot his fault that we ran lame schemes for him. By the way Nam just got a big pick last week. 2nd to DMAC he was one of the best players on the team in the last three years, easy.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:12 am
8.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am
The Jets came off their offer because #21 is nothing special. Some of us know this and some of us think #21 walks on water. If you are looking for a DB to do an adequate job covering his man, giving no help in run support, making 15-20 tackles in a entire season #21 is your man. Oh, also he can go 3 or 4 years without a single INT which is really nice if you want to keep your defense on the field for long stretches of time.
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Come on he had an INT sunday in which Ryan threw the ball straight to him…it wasnt a pick…it was a bad throw…there is a difference…Routt picked the ball off sunday Nnamdi didnt
September 21st, 2011 at 9:14 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am
You can live with 2-3? Chris…i never see ya like this
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Thing is, we’re playing 2 of the 3 best teams in the NFL in these coming weeks — Pats and Texans, Packers being the other elite team, IMO — and another team that’s 2-0 and has been to two straight AFC Championship games.
I’m not saying we strive for mediocrity. I’m hoping for better than 8-8 or 9-7 this season. I’m just trying to be realistic about how tough this three-game stretch appears to be.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:15 am
12.CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:10 am
8.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am
The Jets came off their offer because #21 is nothing special. Some of us know this and some of us think #21 walks on water. If you are looking for a DB to do an adequate job covering his man, giving no help in run support, making 15-20 tackles in a entire season #21 is your man. Oh, also he can go 3 or 4 years without a single INT which is really nice if you want to keep your defense on the field for long stretches of time.
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Mista B I use to put up the same argument as you do but there was one thing I did not consider. The fact that Namdi could blanket a WR that came to his side of the field all day long. This made it tough for QBs to dink and dunk on his side of the field.
It ws snot his fault that we ran lame schemes for him. By the way Nam just got a big pick last week. 2nd to DMAC he was one of the best players on the team in the last three years, easy.
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That was not a pick
September 21st, 2011 at 9:15 am
Is that how Nnamdi is going to start off his HOF induction speech?
“…….I am here today, as someone who is nothing special, I failed in run support…….”
September 21st, 2011 at 9:15 am
So are you guys really saying you think Nnamdi was an average corner at best with the Raiders?
Here let me make it easy. Are you sayiing he was a C, C+ student in DB Class?
September 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am
Cj,
#21 also stayed on his side so the other teams just moved their #1 to Routts side of the field.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am
14.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:14 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am
You can live with 2-3? Chris…i never see ya like this
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Thing is, we’re playing 2 of the 3 best teams in the NFL in these coming weeks — Pats and Texans, Packers being the other elite team, IMO — and another team that’s 2-0 and has been to two straight AFC Championship games.
I’m not saying we strive for mediocrity. I’m hoping for better than 8-8 or 9-7 this season. I’m just trying to be realistic about how tough this three-game stretch appears to be.
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Fk the odds man…..in your life have you ever been in a situation it didnt look liek you can win and you rise above it?
September 21st, 2011 at 9:18 am
Nice read on the o-line blocking….
Carlisle graded out as our best power-blocker, lol
September 21st, 2011 at 9:18 am
If I had to give him a grade I would say B-, slightly above average but not much.
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# CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:15 am
So are you guys really saying you think Nnamdi was an average corner at best with the Raiders?
Here let me make it easy. Are you sayiing he was a C, C+ student in DB Class?
September 21st, 2011 at 9:18 am
16.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:15 am
Is that how Nnamdi is going to start off his HOF induction speech?
“…….I am here today, as someone who is nothing special, I failed in run support…….”
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He not going into the hall
September 21st, 2011 at 9:19 am
20.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:18 am
Nice read on the o-line blocking….
Carlisle graded out as our best power-blocker, lol
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lets ya know how much of a joke that breakdown is huh?
September 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
lol @ #21 in the HOF
September 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
I think he’s a complete CB in that regard.
The only legitimate knock on Nnamdi is that he doesn’t bait QBs into throwing picks, instead opting to just blanket the opposing WR and take him out of the game. He’s extremely effective at it, no matter who the opposing WR is. But I suppose he’d need to do more baiting if he wants to be considered an all-time great at the position.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:26 am
25.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
I think he’s a complete CB in that regard.
The only legitimate knock on Nnamdi is that he doesn’t bait QBs into throwing picks, instead opting to just blanket the opposing WR and take him out of the game. He’s extremely effective at it, no matter who the opposing WR is. But I suppose he’d need to do more baiting if he wants to be considered an all-time great at the position.
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He missed hella tackles my god….he was an average tackler…and you nailed it with not baiting the QB….he aint great just good
September 21st, 2011 at 9:26 am
He made 16 tackles all of last year.
Aggressive???
haha
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Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:27 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am
14.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:14 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am
You can live with 2-3? Chris…i never see ya like this
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Thing is, we’re playing 2 of the 3 best teams in the NFL in these coming weeks — Pats and Texans, Packers being the other elite team, IMO — and another team that’s 2-0 and has been to two straight AFC Championship games.
I’m not saying we strive for mediocrity. I’m hoping for better than 8-8 or 9-7 this season. I’m just trying to be realistic about how tough this three-game stretch appears to be.
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Fk the odds man…..in your life have you ever been in a situation it didnt look liek you can win and you rise above it?
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I hear ya. If I were actually playing or coaching in these games and had some amount of control over the outcome I’d expect nothing less than to win all 3 and believe I could do so. I hope our players and coaches approach it that same way. And I’ll be pulling for the Silver & Black each week, believing we can win all 3. But, just looking at the big picture of the season, I’m saying I wouldn’t mind being .500 with 10 games to go and the toughest portion of our schedule behind us.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:28 am
24.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
lol @ #21 in the HOF
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Yeah thats the funniest schit ever…Charles Woodson he is not
September 21st, 2011 at 9:30 am
28.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:27 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am
14.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:14 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am
You can live with 2-3? Chris…i never see ya like this
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Thing is, we’re playing 2 of the 3 best teams in the NFL in these coming weeks — Pats and Texans, Packers being the other elite team, IMO — and another team that’s 2-0 and has been to two straight AFC Championship games.
I’m not saying we strive for mediocrity. I’m hoping for better than 8-8 or 9-7 this season. I’m just trying to be realistic about how tough this three-game stretch appears to be.
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Fk the odds man…..in your life have you ever been in a situation it didnt look liek you can win and you rise above it?
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I hear ya. If I were actually playing or coaching in these games and had some amount of control over the outcome I’d expect nothing less than to win all 3 and believe I could do so. I hope our players and coaches approach it that same way. And I’ll be pulling for the Silver & Black each week, believing we can win all 3. But, just looking at the big picture of the season, I’m saying I wouldn’t mind being .500 with 10 games to go and the toughest portion of our schedule behind us.
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Man win streak time
September 21st, 2011 at 9:30 am
If #21 was what you think he is AL would have signed him and let Routt skate. If you are too dense to figure this out thats your problem not mine. Routt was covering the 1’s while #21 was covering 2’s & 3’s. When other teams did go at #21 with their 1 it wasn’t pretty. Miles Austin abused #21 on Thanksgiving Day. Rivers went at #21 with success 2 times a year.
Al new this.
The end
September 21st, 2011 at 9:30 am
27.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:26 am
He made 16 tackles all of last year.
Aggressive???
haha
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Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
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All the big runs we gave up and 16 tackles? HAHAHA
September 21st, 2011 at 9:31 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:26 am
He made 16 tackles all of last year.
Aggressive???
haha
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Do CBs often make a lot of tackles? Particularly ones who almost never give up a completion on which they’re there to make the tackle? I think if you have a CB who makes a lot of tackles, you have a CB who gives up a lot of receptions — not good.
I’m not saying Nnamdi is Night Train Lane or anything. I’m just saying I thought he was a willing, solid tackler rather than a Deion Sanders, cover-only type.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:32 am
31.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:30 am
If #21 was what you think he is AL would have signed him and let Routt skate. If you are too dense to figure this out thats your problem not mine. Routt was covering the 1’s while #21 was covering 2’s & 3’s. When other teams did go at #21 with their 1 it wasn’t pretty. Miles Austin abused #21 on Thanksgiving Day. Rivers went at #21 with success 2 times a year.
Al new this.
The end
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Yep just watch what Dallas does to his ass this year
September 21st, 2011 at 9:33 am
33.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:31 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:26 am
He made 16 tackles all of last year.
Aggressive???
haha
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Do CBs often make a lot of tackles? Particularly ones who almost never give up a completion on which they’re there to make the tackle? I think if you have a CB who makes a lot of tackles, you have a CB who gives up a lot of receptions — not good.
I’m not saying Nnamdi is Night Train Lane or anything. I’m just saying I thought he was a willing, solid tackler rather than a Deion Sanders, cover-only type.
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Nnamdi overrated….plain and simple
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
Nnamdi’s a perennial All Pro player. If he keeps that up for several more years while on another team it could be hard to keep him out of the Hall.
He’s not there yet, but he’s got a legitimate shot.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
If we sweep NY & NE that means a couple things.
-We are going to be a force and the entire NFL will know.
-DHB’s knee is still “nicked” up
-The front 4 got their sh!t together
-Lock to win our Div
September 21st, 2011 at 9:39 am
Nnamdi isn’t a 1st ballot guy, but all he needs is probably 4-5 more Pro Bowls and he is in.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:40 am
Chris in NY,
You said he was aggressive in the run game and then I threw a stat at you and then you changed it up to “well he doesn’t give up catches” which is also nonsense.
Chris, go sit in the corner and think about your actions we are done, clown
September 21st, 2011 at 9:41 am
And you are out of your skull.
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# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:39 am
Nnamdi isn’t a 1st ballot guy, but all he needs is probably 4-5 more Pro Bowls and he is in.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:42 am
Of course he is thats why NY backed off.
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Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
Nnamdi’s a perennial All Pro player
September 21st, 2011 at 9:42 am
36.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
Nnamdi’s a perennial All Pro player. If he keeps that up for several more years while on another team it could be hard to keep him out of the Hall.
He’s not there yet, but he’s got a legitimate shot.
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He hardly makes plays….no he wont
September 21st, 2011 at 9:42 am
37.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
If we sweep NY & NE that means a couple things.
-We are going to be a force and the entire NFL will know.
-DHB’s knee is still “nicked” up
-The front 4 got their sh!t together
-Lock to win our Div
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Management
September 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
#21 will be in the HOF right around the same time JaMarcus will be.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I’m not a huge “Nnamdi” guy, I was ready to see him go, and he is overpaid today under his new deal, and was MASSIVELY overpaid by Al.
But the fact is, you rack up close to 10 Pro Bowls, and 5-6 All Pro Teams, you go to the HOF. It is that simple.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
Nnamdi isnt even better than Terry McDaniel
September 21st, 2011 at 9:44 am
Chris in NY,
Always enjoyed reading your comments. You, Bob Marley and several others I refer to as Voices of Reason. lol.
I usually agree with 90% of your posts. You’ve never been a big believer in JC, however. In fact, I think you were one of Grads biggest backers.
What’s your impression of JC so far? Pleasantly surprised? Still skeptical?
September 21st, 2011 at 9:44 am
Is Lester Hayes in the HOF ? ALbert Lewis ?
September 21st, 2011 at 9:44 am
But Nnamdi will have to wait 5-6 years like Timmy is having to, to get in.
Like I said, he isn’t a first-balloter, or even a 2nd balloter.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:45 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:32 am
31.MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:30 am
If #21 was what you think he is AL would have signed him and let Routt skate. If you are too dense to figure this out thats your problem not mine. Routt was covering the 1’s while #21 was covering 2’s & 3’s. When other teams did go at #21 with their 1 it wasn’t pretty. Miles Austin abused #21 on Thanksgiving Day. Rivers went at #21 with success 2 times a year.
Al new this.
The end
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Yep just watch what Dallas does to his ass this year
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Nnamdi gave up one long completion to Austin in that Thanksgiving game. Maybe the only time I recall him getting truly burned over the last several years. I don’t know if I’d call getting beat on one play getting “abused that day.”
Rivers beat him a handful of times on back-shoulder throws over the years. Had a small bit of success against Nnamdi. Rivers has a ton of success against every other CB in the NFL on a reg basis.
I also saw Nnamdi shut down Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald and others — much like he shut down Roddy White on Sunday night (White had 3 catches, a handful of yards and one TD, which came against a safety in a zone D down on the goalline).
“When other teams did go at #21 with their 1 it wasn’t pretty.” ????? You mean like last year when he gave up about 1 reception per game and no TDs? Miniscule numbers compared to the likes of even Revis and other top CBs. Yeah, that was ugly. Teams really exposed him.
Intentionally or otherwise, you’re being a bit delusional.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:46 am
45.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I’m not a huge “Nnamdi” guy, I was ready to see him go, and he is overpaid today under his new deal, and was MASSIVELY overpaid by Al.
But the fact is, you rack up close to 10 Pro Bowls, and 5-6 All Pro Teams, you go to the HOF. It is that simple.
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With no big plays made or game changing moments? 1 career TD? HAHAHA
September 21st, 2011 at 9:47 am
Lester had 5 Pro Bowls, 1 All-Pro team.
Lewis had 4 Pro Bowls, 2 All-Pro teams.
Nnamdi already has 4 Pro Bowls, 4 All-Pro teams.
DB’s are judged at the halls by those two factors, right or wrong.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:47 am
If this were true Lester Hayes would be in the HOF.
Go sit in the corner next to Chris.
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# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I’m not a huge “Nnamdi” guy, I was ready to see him go, and he is overpaid today under his new deal, and was MASSIVELY overpaid by Al.
But the fact is, you rack up close to 10 Pro Bowls, and 5-6 All Pro Teams, you go to the HOF. It is that simple.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:48 am
You left out 2 SB’s and a buttload of INT’s, how convenient!
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Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:47 am
Lester had 5 Pro Bowls, 1 All-Pro team.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:48 am
All people have to do is go at Nnamdi…he wont make ya pay for it
September 21st, 2011 at 9:49 am
Albert Lewis has 1 career TD, 3 career playoff game appearances.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:50 am
Nnamdi makes zero game changing plays….next
September 21st, 2011 at 9:50 am
I would take A Lewis, L Hayes, M Haynes, s Routt, T McDaniel in his prime over #21
September 21st, 2011 at 9:50 am
You left out 2 SB’s and a buttload of INT’s, how convenient!
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And he is not in the HOF, proving Pro Bowls and All-Pro teams are what voters are looking for.
And don’t think for a second that Nnamdi’s nice-guy routine won’t sway a HOF writers vote or two.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
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Nnamdi watched as Steven Jackson ran by on a 47 yard TD scamper opening day, and was DIRECTLY responsible for Roddy on that TD, which is why he was standing 2 feet from Roddy trying to protest that he stepped out. Nnam ALSO allowed 3 receptions for 50 yards to the 5th WR on STLs roster.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Hue should get the D riled up by posting a picture of Sanchez eating a hot dog during the game the last time we faced them.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:53 am
Buckeyeraider Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:44 am
Chris in NY,
Always enjoyed reading your comments. You, Bob Marley and several others I refer to as Voices of Reason. lol.
I usually agree with 90% of your posts. You’ve never been a big believer in JC, however. In fact, I think you were one of Grads biggest backers.
What’s your impression of JC so far? Pleasantly surprised? Still skeptical?
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Thanks Buckeye,
I was still skeptical after Week 1’s performance of about 105 yards and almost no completions of over 10 yards. The unwillingness to fit the ball into tight spaces down the field has always been far and away my gripe with JC. When Grads came in the last couple of years, he was making those kinds of throws, which is why I was riding high on the Grads bandwagon.
But this past week Campbell really impressed me. Several completions down the field and into tight coverage. He looked great. He made an interesting comment after the game about trusting Moore to make catches in tight coverage. Lack of trust in certain WRs could explain why he’s failed to make those tough throws in the past. Maybe he’s got a point there (although I did see Grads come in and do it with those same WRs with some success).
Maybe he just needs to work with some WRs he has confidence in. I guess we’ll see. I have said that throughout the exhibition season he did look much improved this year. The Buffalo game was obviously a breakout performance. Hopefully he continues that. Need to see it a few more times before I’m a true believer though.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:48 am
All people have to do is go at Nnamdi…he wont make ya pay for it
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He did the season before teams completely stopped throwing at him. Had 8 picks that year, I believe.
September 21st, 2011 at 9:57 am
Nnamdi will get a half dozen picks this year
September 21st, 2011 at 9:58 am
60.bcz24 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
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Nnamdi watched as Steven Jackson ran by on a 47 yard TD scamper opening day, and was DIRECTLY responsible for Roddy on that TD, which is why he was standing 2 feet from Roddy trying to protest that he stepped out. Nnam ALSO allowed 3 receptions for 50 yards to the 5th WR on STLs roster.
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Yes…exactly
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
64.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:57 am
Nnamdi will get a half dozen picks this year
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He doesnt have one yet…i dont think you know what a pick is
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
Is the game a sellout yet?
September 21st, 2011 at 10:00 am
I really don’t care about Nnamdi because he is NOT a Raider and he will never be a Raider again!
Case closed!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:00 am
64.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:57 am
Nnamdi will get a half dozen picks this year
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I bet he gives up easily that many TDs as well. He wont be ignored in Philly, he will be exposed.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:01 am
bcz24 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Everybody seems to bash Nnamdi and his run support. I never saw it that way. I saw him come up and make aggressive, solid tackles on running plays and screen passes all the time.
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Nnamdi watched as Steven Jackson ran by on a 47 yard TD scamper opening day, and was DIRECTLY responsible for Roddy on that TD, which is why he was standing 2 feet from Roddy trying to protest that he stepped out. Nnam ALSO allowed 3 receptions for 50 yards to the 5th WR on STLs roster.
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Nnamdi didn’t make a good play on the Jackson run. I’ll give you that.
Saw the White TD and replay of it. Look again. Not Nnamdi’s guy. They were in zone. White caught it over a Philly safety. Nnamdi was in the next zone over and came running in after the catch.
Didn’t see the STL game so I can’t say for sure what the numbers were there. I do know that Revis gives up 2-3 catches per game. Not sure that giving up 3 catches is something shameful. Not up to Nnamdi’s standard, but it’s still only a few catches in one game.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:01 am
67.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
Is the game a sellout yet?
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I read on twitter it is VERY close, may need the extension til friday to officially sell out though.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:02 am
63.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:48 am
All people have to do is go at Nnamdi…he wont make ya pay for it
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He did the season before teams completely stopped throwing at him. Had 8 picks that year, I believe.
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Oh yeah 2006 the 2-14 season.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:02 am
71.bcz24 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:01 am
67.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
Is the game a sellout yet?
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I read on twitter it is VERY close, may need the extension til friday to officially sell out though.
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Schit is sold out…I got my ticket…you?
September 21st, 2011 at 10:03 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
64.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:57 am
Nnamdi will get a half dozen picks this year
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He doesnt have one yet…i dont think you know what a pick is
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Wrong again. He got one against ATL.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:04 am
Didn’t see the STL game so I can’t say for sure what the numbers were there. I do know that Revis gives up 2-3 catches per game. Not sure that giving up 3 catches is something shameful. Not up to Nnamdi’s standard, but it’s still only a few catches in one game
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The burn rates arent published very often and are hard to find when they are but I know Nnamdi gave up 3 catches for 50 yards in 4 attempts to a scrub WR… Revis ALWAYS shadows the best receiver on the field so it is expected that he gives up a few catches.
Oh, and Nnamdi did NOT shut down Andre Johnson last year, Johnson was out for that game.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:07 am
Raiders need to not focus all their pissed off energy about the blown Bill game and use it and let it all out against the Jets in the home opener!
Chuck B better get pressure on Sanchez!
However, I think the Jets are going to try and pound the rock at the Raiders primarily and then spread it out like what the Bills did.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:07 am
68.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:00 am
I really don’t care about Nnamdi because he is NOT a Raider and he will never be a Raider again!
Case closed!
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Dont tell that to the Nnamdi lovers….THEY’LL KEEP HOLDING ONNNNNN….HOLDING HOLDING HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
September 21st, 2011 at 10:09 am
Fatboy’s gonna need a lot of snacks to get over this one!!!!! Raiders 17 Jets 14
September 21st, 2011 at 10:09 am
67.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
Is the game a sellout yet?
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Anyone know the answer to that question?
A big crowd could make a big difference.
The Jets are the 28th running offense-which considering how many big runs we give up is just as well.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:09 am
“.THEY’LL KEEP HOLDING ONNNNNN….HOLDING HOLDING HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”
Like a Simply Red Song!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:10 am
74.Chris in NY Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:03 am
Method To My Madness Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:59 am
64.Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:57 am
Nnamdi will get a half dozen picks this year
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He doesnt have one yet…i dont think you know what a pick is
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Wrong again. He got one against ATL.
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Chris I think that flew over your head…I know in NY yall deal with a massive cockroach problem so I’ll give you a pass…..Nnamdi didnt pick anyone off….do you know what a pick is? Just because a guy got an INT doesnt make it a pick….what Routt did sunday was a pick….Branch dropped a pick…CJ dropped a pick….Nnamdi didnt pick off Ryan.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:11 am
“Is the game a sellout yet?”
Most of us in here don’t care because we will be there but for the guys who live in other states you shouldn’t care either because you can watch it either way.
If you are local and do not have a ticket go buy one they are $25 on O.co
September 21st, 2011 at 10:11 am
68.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:00 am
I really don’t care about Nnamdi because he is NOT a Raider and he will never be a Raider again!
Case closed!
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I agree.
Al screwed it up not getting picks for Aso when he could but it’s over and he’s not a Raider.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:11 am
Last time Nnamdi picked someone off was 2008 vs Jake Delhomme which I knew he would do cuz Jake will try any CB no matter who it is
September 21st, 2011 at 10:12 am
82.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:11 am
“Is the game a sellout yet?”
Most of us in here don’t care because we will be there but for the guys who live in other states you shouldn’t care either because you can watch it either way.
If you are local and do not have a ticket go buy one they are $25 on O.co
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I think that you have got it
September 21st, 2011 at 10:13 am
“Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie thinks he’s a better playmaker than Nnamdi Asomugha. I think Cromartie is right ”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/21/antonio-cromartie-named-afc-defensive-player-of-the-week/
September 21st, 2011 at 10:14 am
If you cant sell out a stadium at $25 a ticket there is something seriously wrong.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:15 am
87.bcz24 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:14 am
If you cant sell out a stadium at $25 a ticket there is something seriously wrong.
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25 dollar ticket is Mt Davis the super high deck….the other tickets are a little bit higher my friend
September 21st, 2011 at 10:15 am
Its always a sellout in my mind…Im always there
September 21st, 2011 at 10:18 am
of course Cromartie is a playmaker while Nnamdi isnt….this is known
September 21st, 2011 at 10:19 am
Yo Steve this is, “Inside the Raiders blog.”
It’s not like we don’t get enough coverage of New York & Boston teams on espn & NFL Network already.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:20 am
All that will do is make Tommy Kelly hungry and the cole slaw buffett is closed @ Alameda.
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# raiderdeek Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Hue should get the D riled up by posting a picture of Sanchez eating a hot dog during the game the last time we faced them.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:21 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
If we sweep NY & NE that means a couple things.
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1) Hell has frozen over
2) I just had an orgasm lol
September 21st, 2011 at 10:21 am
“25 dollar ticket is Mt Davis the super high deck….the other tickets are a little bit higher my friend”
I have some great binoculars I can even see the cheerleaders muff’s from MT Davis!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:24 am
I really admire the way Rex have defeated the cheating Patriots but I’m not falling for his tongue and cheek interview about some of the Raiders coaches, players and former players. Rex thinks it is going to be another cake walk defeating the Raiders. It all sums down to the fact that Rex is confident about his men winning against the Raiders. If Rex had any fear of the Raiders…then his interview would’ve been mean, nasty and pretty darn spiteful. The Raiders need to really defeat those Jets, come Sunday. We really, really need this game against the Jets on Sunday…NOTHING LESS WILL DO.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:25 am
bcz24: Did you see all the fights at the Buffalo game?
September 21st, 2011 at 10:28 am
Some tickets are 81, 61, 41
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# bcz24 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:14 am
If you cant sell out a stadium at $25 a ticket there is something seriously wrong.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:29 am
LOL
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:21 am
I have some great binoculars I can even see the cheerleaders muff’s from MT Davis!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:32 am
94.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:21 am
“25 dollar ticket is Mt Davis the super high deck….the other tickets are a little bit higher my friend”
I have some great binoculars I can even see the cheerleaders muff’s from MT Davis!
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Better have that schit waxed clean…what is this the 70s?
September 21st, 2011 at 10:33 am
I think the Jets and Pats will sell out. There aren’t too many tickets left in ticketmaster with the exception of Club Seats which aren’t counted towards a sell out.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:34 am
The 70s…aw Kell it takes ya back dont it….you were still considered black back then huh? Had your TWA(teeny weeny afro) riding a Duece and a Quarter bumping A Track of the Commodores…..those were the days huh Kelly? I know you at K&A screening every post
September 21st, 2011 at 10:35 am
kokomo Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:33 am
I think the Jets and Pats will sell out. There aren’t too many tickets left in ticketmaster with the exception of Club Seats which aren’t counted towards a sell out
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Those were already guaranteed to sellout….no suprise there…..KC game will be as well so will the Bears and SD game…Denver and Detriot I dont know….Cleveland may be tough unless we are 4-1 then thats sold
September 21st, 2011 at 10:45 am
B,
KK laying low today in fear of getting tuned up?
The old tool bag says he aint seen hide nor hair of you after going after your mom and then he hides like a b!tch, funny that!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:52 am
The best thing about playing the Patriots, week 4?
The Patriots playing the Jets week 5!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:57 am
Jacoby Ford (hamstring) missed Raiders practice Wednesday.
Ford was spotted in sweats near the trainers’ table at the start of the workout, and it’s unclear if he’s anywhere close to practicing. Ford plays flanker in Oakland’s offense, so he doesn’t necessarily affect the depth chart at “X” receiver — where Denarius Moore is pushing Darrius Heyward-Bey (knee). Derek Hagan and Chaz Schilens rotated at flanker in Week 2.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
According to STATS, opponents 4-14 passing against Routt for lowest pct in NFL among any defender targeted at least 10 times….
September 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
I like the Commodores…
September 21st, 2011 at 11:00 am
Chris Johnson isn’t practicing today. Now if he doesn’t play on sun, it’s a big concern. Not that he was great anyway
September 21st, 2011 at 11:01 am
107.Silverandblack666 Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
I like the Commodores…
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Who doesnt…..Kell use to….not anymore
September 21st, 2011 at 11:02 am
Mista if you had democrats fighting each other over slowdrama’s job bill you would be nervous as well lol
September 21st, 2011 at 11:06 am
Well the Broncos brought in Sharper for a work-out and let him walk.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:09 am
does Kell listen to Michael Bolton now days?
September 21st, 2011 at 11:14 am
Some of you have issues: saying we match up well with the Jets and its winnable but the pariots will be a tough match? The jets beat the patriots in the playoffs. They have before. They have been in 2 straight AFC championship games. We were 8-8 last year with losses to Arizona, JAX, and I won’t say anymore. This is a great defense (jets) and a Offense that does enough to close out games consistently when the game is close. Denarius Moore looked great riiiight? now he will be defended by Revis/Cromartie. While Bart Scott is blitzing down our throat. This is a very very hard game. If we win this, we have arrived. If not, then expect to lose 3 straight.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:18 am
I was just thinking about this Jano story and something just wasn’t adding up. And here is what i got. This chick must have a hell off a pair of lungs on her for someone to hear her screaming while she is in a walkin. As a former chef i know you can’t hear sh*t inside or out especially one in a nightclub.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:18 am
Beat The Jets. Just come out on fire and do it. Don’t worry about the Pats until it’s time to. When it is time just go out and let it fly and let the chips fall where they may. If The Pats are looking past us one bit to the next week against The Jets they will be in trouble.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:22 am
Hey mista brown. … I said a couple of days ago that I wish dhb’s knee is still hurting this Sunday so we can see more denarios Moore… and some fool jumped all over calling me a cold Raiders fan….. shoot man.. I just think dmoore is already much better than dhb.. that’s all. . I don’t want Dhb. Hurt but I don’t want him playing over wr ’s that are much better than him either..
September 21st, 2011 at 11:23 am
Raiderkoolaid … totally agree. Just get it done. I dont care if we have Special team scores, FG’s, sloppy win or big win, just win baby. This game is crucial …. 2-1 will go a long ways for this team after that Buffalo collapse.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:30 am
MistaBrown Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
If we sweep NY & NE that means a couple things.
and I’ll be the happiest corn fed guy in Iowa!
September 21st, 2011 at 11:30 am
As far as Nnamdi goes:
Look at our secondary without him. That in itself should account for something. Also, his interception Sunday–he made a play on that ball. He dropped back on one guy, and then read Ryan’s eyes and jumped the route. He made that play. So what if he made 16 tackles last year? He is a man to man corner. He’s not there to rack up Patrick Willis tackling numbers. My picture of Nnamdi in run support is knocking people down by their legs, and I can remember like one missed tackle since he’d been a star. All Raider players on the roster for the last 9 years, at least, have been atrocious against the run. Can’t blame a CB for that.
I understand. The guy left. He was our guy, and he left. But being angry at him, or thinking he made too much money as a CB, does not take away that he is one of the best in the game. Come on. It’s pretty obvious that he dominates his position.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:31 am
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September 21st, 2011 at 11:37 am
I said a couple of days ago that I wish dhb’s knee is still hurting this Sunday so we can see more denarios Moore… and some fool jumped all over calling me a cold Raiders fan….. shoot man.. I just think dmoore is already much better than dhb.. that’s all. . I don’t want Dhb. Hurt but I don’t want him playing over wr ’s that are much better than him either..
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RIGHT ON!
As soon as he is better DHB will be back starting.He can be a good 3 or 4 receiver.Put D Moore,Ford & Murphy in there with DMC and BOSS at TE and let er rip.Our offense can run with any in this league if Coach Jax just have faith.If we can see this why can’t he?
September 21st, 2011 at 11:38 am
114.HueKnows Says:
September 21st, 2011 at 11:18 am
I was just thinking about this Jano story and something just wasn’t adding up. And here is what i got. This chick must have a hell off a pair of lungs on her for someone to hear her screaming while she is in a walkin. As a former chef i know you can’t hear sh*t inside or out especially one in a nightclub.
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To me it sounds like the chick is just trying to get an easy pay day. She won’t get it. She has zero credibility.
September 21st, 2011 at 2:26 pm
I read these comments all the time and most of u are spot on. Are u kidding me with #21? long arms great at press coverage. Great attitude. All DB’s give up big plays. #21 does maybe 2-3 times a year but I’ll guarentee if he was there Sunday in Buff we would have won!! He doesn’t get stats cause he doesn’t get action. We will miss him a ton by end of the year when he’s in the playoffs and we Raider fans will be watching.
September 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm
You guys are full of schite about Aso! He blanketed receivers. I remember him a whole game on L. Fitzgerald where he took him out of the game! I remember him doing the same to Andre Johnson for the whole game until later when we put another CB on him.
He had these guys covered so well, QBs didn’t even try to squeeze the ball on, even if it was their best receiver.
Being so damned effective that your receiver gets no catches is not being crapy!
I think he allowed 1 touchdown last year. If we had another corner like thawed be able to totally take away those high powered offenses that depend almost entirely on the pass.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Al Davis didn’t pay him like a QB because he was crap. He overpaid him and realized he got screwed and because of abysmal failure in negotiating before didn’t even offer him a contract!
September 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
When he gets stubborn over something and has a fixed idea about it he doesn’t budge. He thought he got boned (and he did on many other contracts as well). So rather than pay him 18 mil he let him walk. He didn’t even try to give a 10 or 12 mil a year contract like we have to Routt.
If you don’t think Aso is good look at our passing yards per game given up compared to last year. And it’s not like we played the Patriots, Packers, Saints etc yet.
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