Raiders seeking ways to slow down Patriots WR Welker
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, September 28th, 2011 at 4:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There is plenty of talk this week about the Raiders and New England Patriots renewing their fierce rivalry, the Tuck Rule Game, quarterback Tom Brady’s first game at the Coliseum in nine years, defensive tackle Richard Seymour facing his old team and the Raiders primed to send shockwaves through the league with another surprising victory.
However, it’s one of the smallest players from both teams that is garnering the most attention. That would be Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker, the league’s leading receiver in terms of receptions (31) and yards (458).
“Oh, my, god!” Raiders coach Hue Jackson said. “He is uncoverable. He is uncoverable! He had 16 catches last week. Are you kidding me? Man! Can we can get him not to show up this week? He is one of the catalysts for this team. We got to get this guy slowed down. He is as good as there is. And he’s not a big guy. But he plays big. And I respect that.”
Welker caught 16 passes for 217 yards against the Buffalo Bills last Sunday, and he is in the midst of another prolific season as the focal point of the Patriots’ top-ranked passing attack.
Jackson wouldn’t say how the Raiders intend to cover Welker. However, it’s a safe bet that cornerback Stanford Routt will be lined up on Welker a fair amount of the time.
“All I know is, that I play left corner,” Routt said. “And whoever lines up out there, that’s who I got to cover.”
Actually, left corner is where Routt lines up most of the time. He has a history of playing against the slot receiver from his days as the nickel back.
He guarded Patriots receiver Deion Branch in the slot when the Raiders played the Patriots in the regular-season opener in 2005, Routt’s first-ever NFL game.
Routt said whoever covers Welker is going to have his hands full because of the way Welker and quarterback Tom Brady are so in synch.
“The main thing is that he and Brady got such a connection,” Routt said. “It’s tough because he’s Brady’s favorite target. … They’re all on the same page, so it’s tough. You definitely got to get your hands on them and play up close to the line of scrimmage against guys like that. But, no matter what, anytime they’re feeding somebody extensively the way they do him, it’s always going to be a tough task to handle.”
RAIDERS REELING FROM INJURIES
The Raiders welcomed back wide receiver Jacoby Ford from a hamstring injury after a two-week absence and safety Mike Mitchell, who missed most of the past two months with a knee injury.
However, they are far from healthy, as evidenced by Jackson taking quite awhile to read off the injury report at the start of his post-practice news conference.
“Injury report. One for the ages for me:
Ford, hamstring, limited
Murphy, groin, (did not participate)
Mcfadden, groin, full
Reese, ankle, DNP
Campbell, heel, limited
Brown, concussion, DNP
Groves, quad contusion, full
Shaughnessy, shoulder DNP
Boyd, knee, full
Chekwa, hamstring, limited
Guardano , shoulder, full
Huff, concussion, ankle, body, everything, limited
Johnson, hamstring, DNP
Mitchell, knee, limited
Van Dyke, knee, full.”
It’s difficult to gauge which of those players will be available for the Patriots on Sunday. Jackson said he won’t rule out using Mitchell, even though Mitchell will get in only three practices and hasn’t played in a game of any kind this season.
“He is one of the toughest competitors I have ever been around,” Jackson said. “I know he likes to play football. It was great to see that 34 out there running around and making plays. But we’ll be smart. We’ll see where he is. We just have to monitor it as we go along this week.”
TUCK RULE GAME REVISITED
Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour finds himself the center of attention most games as the dominant figure on Oakland’s defensive line.
He is in even higher demand by the media this week for his former ties to the Patriots and his participation in the AFC Playoffs game between the Patriots in Raiders during the 2001 season, when Seymour’s Patriots beat the Raiders in overtime, in part because of a controversial ruling that turned a fumble the Raiders recovered into a Patriots incomplete pass.
“I was on the opposite side of it, so I don’t have a comment on it,” Seymour said. “I don’t have a comment. What’s funny is that me and Wisniewski, coach (Steve) Wisniewski, we were lined up against each other that whole game.”
Wisniewski was the Raiders left guard in what turned out to be his final NFL game. He now is the Raiders assistant offensive line coach.
In general terms, Seymour said he has fond memories of the game that launched the Patriots dynasty.
“Well, it was a fun game,” Seymour said. “It was back and forth. In the snow, a playoff game. Obviously, it’s a big game, and I was just fortunate to be on the right side of it. But it’s a play that will always be in NFL history, and I can say I was a part of that game.”
Patriots quarterback Tom Brady laughed when asked about the play in a conference call with Bay Area media.
“You’ll never get the right answer out of me that you’re looking for,” Brady said. “So, that’s the way it goes.”
Speaking of Brady, he and Seymour are close friends. That brings about the awkward possibility of Seymour crossing paths with Brady in the Patriots backfield Sunday.
Sure enough, Brady and Seymour discussed the possibility during the offseason and reached a gentlemen’s agreement of sorts, according to Brady.
“I was hoping that day would never come when he was here because I know what kind of player he was for us,” Brady said. “I saw him this offseason. He promised me that if he got to close to me, he wouldn’t take me down too hard. I’ll see if he lives up to that.”
BELICHICK ON SEYMOUR
Seymour says he was blindsided by the Patriots trading him to the Raiders just before the 2009 season. It’s no secret that Seymour has had this game in his crosshairs since the schedule came out.
“It’s hard to get a win in this league,” Seymour said. “It’s a competitive, tough, league and we just want to follow up last week with a win. And that’s our ultimate goal. It isn’t me against New England, it’s the Raiders against New England. I just want to have the Black Hole rocking again.”
Belichick said in a conference call that Seymour is the kind of player that you don’t replace.
“Top-level players, you never get the same guy,” Belichick said. “You construct other parts of your team. Even if you find a guy to play that position, they play it a little bit differently, so I don’t think you replace those kind of players. You add players in other areas or players with different skills. Obviously, we did that with the draft choice we got this year, but they’re different players.”
As for what he thinks of Seymour’s play this season?
“He played some pretty good football for us here,” Belichick said. “He’s playing well for the Raiders. I don’t know. He’s a good player.”
PATRIOTS AND RAIDERS TRADES
In recent years, the Patriots and Raiders have become favorite trading partners. The numerous trades involved the Raiders trading or acquiring players such as Seymour, receiver Randy Moss, defensive end Derrick Burgess, offensive tackle Mario Henderson, Doug Gabriel, and a slew of others.
It’s nothing more than the Patriots and the Raiders having a good relationship and trusting each other when it comes to moving players and draft picks, according to Belichick.
“I guess it just worked out for both teams that way,” Belichick said. “No really set formula on that. I’m sure, we worked with other teams, they’ve worked with other teams. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn’t. There’s open lines of communication and if there is something there where both clubs feel like they can help each other and there’s a deal to made, and if there isn’t you just move on. I don’t think it’s a big deal.”
The Patriots selected offensive tackle Nate Solder with the 2011 first-round pick they received from the Raiders in exchange for Seymour.
Yet, that’s not how Belichick views the trade.
“We didn’t know we were getting him when we traded Richard,” Belichick said. “We knew what the value was; we didn’t know what the player was. In both cases, we did what was best for our football team. That’s really what it came down to. I know they’re related, but in a sense they’re independent, too.”
CAMPBELL’S COMFORT LEVEL WITH O-LINEJackson says he was confident all along in the players that comprise his offensive line.
Never mind that it took him until late in training camp to announce that Jared Veldheer, Stefen Wisniewski, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes were the starters. He wants everyone to believe that he knew all along who his five best linemen were.
Maybe so, but he rotated other linemen in and out of the first-team in practices and games before settling upon his starting unit. That made it difficult for Campbell and others to get a strong feel for what to expect.
Campbell said Wednesday that it took him until late in camp to feel comfortable with the current group of linemen.
“I would say probably the third preseason game, when we got a chance to play against the Saints and all the different multiple looks that they were giving us, the different blitzes, and we were able to pick a lot of them up,” Campbell said. “That’s when you see, as a quarterback, that we’ve definitely improved as an offensive line unit.”
Center Samson Satele sets the tone as the person who barks out the signals. The others do their part by relaying their intentions to each other, especially when they see the defense back out of a particular look and into a new one.
“The one thing they do very well is communicate,” Campbell said. “That’s very important because everyone has to be on the same page, from the linemen to the running backs to the tight ends and to the quarterback, as far as having a complete communication and knowing, who’s got their guy.”
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September 28th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Let’s Go Raiders! I’ll never, ever, ever, never forget the “Tuck Rule”. Never in a million years.
September 28th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Give Wes Welker a “hard nice clean old fashioned never forget it” type of hit and I’ll guarantee, he’ll be quiet for the rest of the game.
September 28th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Let RoMac tune him up when he tries to come off the line into the pattern. Give him one of those Sproules Slams. That should do it.
September 28th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
lol
September 28th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Jim Plunkett & Mike Haynes vs Randy Moss & any of the others named here. I think we’re still ahead.
September 28th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
How to slow down Welker?
Knock him the F out.. Problem solved..
MM34, are you listening?
September 28th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@JB
i was at the san diego game last year when RoMac put that hit on sproles and the SD fans looked devastated. We all cheered of course which kinda pissed them off but who cares i never met a charger fan that scared me lol.
September 28th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Destroy the Patsies!
September 28th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
im not saying theres not a charger fan who could kick my ass. just saying when they put those powder blue uni’s it’d be like Ali wearing a dress he just wouldn’t look that scary
September 28th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Should Denarius Moore be ahead of a Jacoby Ford on the depth chart when Ford is fully healthy?
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this is the biggest crock of schyt poll i have ever read in my life. they should ask.
SHOULD DENARIUS MOORE BE AHEAD OF D.H.B.,C.S.,L.M.,D.H.,N.M., AND ANY SWINGING DIC LISTED AS A W.R. ON OUR ROSTER. so the answer can then be yes. he should start on the other side of ford….
September 28th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
7.freeshot350 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@JB
i was at the san diego game last year when RoMac put that hit on sproles and the SD fans looked devastated. We all cheered of course which kinda pissed them off but who cares i never met a charger fan that scared me lol.
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Charged Up! doesnt scare you? I’m shocked
September 28th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
D needs to really step it up against Brady & Co. No prevent defense!
September 28th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Raiders Seek Ways to Slow down Brady and Welker.
Here’s a suggestion…..Keep Brady on his A$$. Level Welker on his first catch across the middle. Let Seymour introduce Brady to the new turf and ask him how it tastes! Find out how funny he thinks that is!
September 28th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
LV…..we ready
September 28th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
JFord and JCamp have a long wya to go to get close to what Brady and Welker are doing but it is something to aspire to.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
JB if RoMac get him he may not get up…….RoMac gives old school body slams.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
The Raiders should be looking at ways to make Jacoby Ford a weapon like Welker. This week and beyond.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
i hear that we are talking about sharing santa clara stadium i think its just rumor
September 28th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
we gotta stop the madness we belong in oakland
September 28th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Raiders 41 Patriots 21
September 28th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
so how many BS Roughing calls will we get against justin biebers gayer looking older brother? The refs don’t like seeing brady get knocked down
September 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Gotta contain Wes Welker. He’s going to get catches and yards…just can’t let the guy kill you.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
yeah if stay man to man the whole game welker is going to kill us. if we play some zone like we did when cj got hurt i think we can handle welker
September 28th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
MM34 Got wes number at his fore front of thoughts i bet.. hope is further alon health wise than whats being written… i got a good feeling about this game , just got to start well !!
September 28th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
#1 running attack in the league!
September 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
freeshot350 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
yeah if stay man to man the whole game welker is going to kill us. if we play some zone like we did when cj got hurt i think we can handle welker
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I am very concerned here. Most likely Welker will line up in the slot or opposite Routt. So someone is going to really have to bring it.
very important for the front 4 to get pressure and to try and get some coverage sacks
If Brady sits back there with time…it will be a long day.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Raiders 47-20 or 47-41 either way we’re winning and putting up 47!
September 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@25 oh i cant wait to see darren get to 500 thru 4 games, a cool 108 an hope some more !! 2 td’s, jones KR Td and a routt pick an the win, am i being greedy?
September 28th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Once we’re past the next two games I think we match up very well.
New England will spread us pretty thin in the secondary with quick throws and our D-Line won’t have enough time to get to Brady.
Similar style to what we ran into with the Bills.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
we might be in bad shape if huff is not playing
September 28th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Giordano is not that good of a tackler and at times seems confused
September 28th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
is anyone still on here
September 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
There’s something wrong with the board, BigOakBoy…
September 28th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
as long as sullivan aint around
September 28th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Any defense we put out there against this team will be “prevent” oriented. I’d like to see a double stack at the los. LB hitting WW at the snap followed by a CB covering him as soon as he drags his little self off the coli dirt.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Yeah Giordano played well against the Donkeys but hez been mostly horrible ever since.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
DVD practicing is good news. We’ll need all DB hands on deck for this Sunday.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
I can understand why the national media is slow to give The Raiders respect after 7 loosing seasons and one 8-8 season, but The Raiders are earning it and they are coming around, but why are they so big on S.D.? All they have done is get a little worse every year since Norve Turner has been there, and yet they talk about them like they are one of the leagues premier teams.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
These next 2 games are going to be tuff (NE, Hou). If we can win one out of the two that would be good.
Looking at the schedule and how we are playing I see no reason why we shouldn’t win the West.
September 28th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I think we may very well have the best coach in the AFC not named Bill Billicheck.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Someone needs to level Welker on the first play. If he’s still on his feet for 2nd down, hit him harder.
Even if it costs us 15 yards.
Knock his little a$$ out!
September 28th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
The Keys to Victory:
Jason Campbell, remain cool
Raider D, get in Bradys kitchen early and often
Oakland Coliseum, LOUD, LOUD and LOUDER
Moore is a every snap guy
DMAC is on another level
Seymour is the undisputed leader of the D unit
Lets Roll! Code Black a’comin!
September 28th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
I feel a LOT better matching wits with Billicheat with our current coaching staff than at any time in the past 9 years. Including the “Dumbest Coach in America” Callaspam.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Terp… I agree… if were. . 3-2 after the Houston game… I’m OK with that. I prefer 4-1… but lets be realistic. … that’s a tall order…. but hey you never know. .. we could easily be 3- right now!!…
September 28th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Maybe we should put a bounty on Welker and/or Brady like the Ravens do. Seems to work. Or better yet, we place a fatwah on them like Walt Coleman and maybe the NFL doesn’t even let them into town anymore.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
I think we are going to see the Pats try and run the ball on us.
I think you are going to see Huff on Welker pressing him. Not a good matchup for NE.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Yesterday, one post that led to over 1000 replies. Today, such long posts I am falling asleep. Consistency is my friend.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
I get the feeling hue Jack had already told the d to lay the wood on welker. .. he gave welker a little too much praise… seemed almost sarcastic. .. romac. …. he’s all yours!! Don’t let us down!! …..
September 28th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
I’d like to see something resembling a full court press on WW. I’ve seen teams like the Browns, the Lions, even the Bills take down a Billicheat team. We need to be studying that film until the wee hours of the night and gp accordingly. Like I said, I have more confidence in this coaching staff than I have since the Gruden era….
September 28th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Boyd and Giordano were playing S for us last week.
If Mitchell can’t replace Giordano in the lineup, then something is wrong. I’d hold him out until next week though.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
“Like I said, I have more confidence in this coaching staff than I have since the Gruden era…”
Admittedly a low bar but that’s not what I meant…
September 28th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
It’s not hard to see that this is the best coaching staff we have in quite some time. At least on the offensive side of the ball.
I’m hoping that Woodson really gets into what he is doing and ends up our DC in 2 years.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Huff. Hurt. Out. I get it.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
J Hill Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
I think we are going to see the Pats try and run the ball on us.
I think you are going to see Huff on Welker pressing him. Not a good matchup for NE.
but huff is hurt or not 100% were in trouble
September 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Raiders 41
NE 31
September 28th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
These next 2 games are going to be tuff (NE, Hou). If we can win one out of the two that would be good.
Looking at the schedule and how we are playing I see no reason why we shouldn’t win the West.
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Raiders gotta take it to the Pats and see themselves as equals to both teams.
My biggest concern is the Raiders ability/willingness/ and quickness to make adjustments on defense. Especially if something isn’t working.
Raiders can be stubborn on this at times.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I really don’t have an issue with Chuck B though.
He’s putting the players in a position to make plays. Is blitzing and playing zone more than I’ve seen here since I can remember.
I think the secondary will continue to get better with Woodson having his input with these youngsters.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Just jam Welker at the line. Give him a nice punch. Stop him before he begins. Don’t let that lil smurf run free in his route.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
I want that homo Brady leaving Oaktown on a stretcher. The NFL is responsible for the start of their dynasty after they gave them the game with The Tuck. F!_!ck the Tuck and the Patriots.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
If Huff can’t go, I still look for us to be physical with Welker by pressing him. I think we’ll also see RoMac zone up the middle of the field to help on the underneath stuff.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I think the secondary will continue to get better with Woodson having his input with these youngsters.
j hill if he does this we go all the way unless the injury bug bites us (knock on wood)
September 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Just dont let wembley or Groves get caught trying to cover Wes at any time 1 on 1.
Send Wood head up the middle and get romac his first fumble,
Routt to get another pick.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Brady will go down. I predict he gets injured at some point. Something wicked this way comes.
Put the kids to bed.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Really what we need to do is jam the Pats receivers at the line to throw off Bradys timing. I said it during the Bills game. Had CJ not been giving that cushion we would have won. Same thing with Brady! Jam the WRs and it’ll let our D-line put in work
September 28th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
if routt gets in welkers head like he did Burress were cool
September 28th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
For Billicheck to be considered the best coach in the game, I don’t know why he married himself to these pass-heavy, run-n-shoot offenses for the past 3 years. It may win a lot of games but in the end they almost always come up short.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
The weather has been incredibly nice here in Oakland this week. he Coliseum groundskeepers better be earning their paychecks and covering that dirt infield in time for Sunday.
No excuses!
September 28th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
*the
September 28th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
A team like Oakland can stategically win a battle vs NE by running the ball almost all day keeping that offense off the field – cold turkey when they get on. If we had what I would term elite edge rushers we would kill NE. It would be a mismatch because they rely so heavily on the pass.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Just dont let wembley or Groves get caught trying to cover Wes at any time 1 on 1.
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Exactly what I am thinking.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
A team like Oakland can stategically win a battle vs NE by running the ball almost all day keeping that offense off the field – cold turkey when they get on. If we had what I would term elite edge rushers we would kill NE. It would be a mismatch because they rely so heavily on the pass.
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Yup…the Raiders offensively have to dictate to New England and play to that strength.
As for edge rushers….Moss, Scott and Wimbley have to see more time.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
A good Dline with great edge rushers is what beat NE in the Super Bowl. They relied too heavily on the pass.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
RaideredoutLA
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
September 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Knock the slobber out of Brady and make Welker ansie from getting hit so hard. Bash the Brady Bunch.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Bash the Brady Bunch. If Marsha or Jan come over the middle, level them too.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
LMFAO!!
I so wanna see Wimbley hit Brady so hard a snot bubble pops out.
September 28th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Yea… that would be one hell of a game plan… on offense. ..jam the ball down their frigging troats. … and on defense just punish them and keep them on the sideline. .. no o rhythm for the patsies…. let our oline just tire them out…that probably means low scoring game..which I think actually benefits the Raiders. ..IMO
September 28th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
If my grandma comes over the middle wearing a Patriot’s jersey, level her.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Groves may not see too much time on the field this weekend. I think we’ll see 6 DBs, 4 DL and RoMac.
I’d press all 4 of their WRs and TEs and zone both S over the top and Romac in the middle.
Routt and Chekwa on the outside, Huff on Welker, and Boyd or Porter on the TE.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Reporter: Friday is your 10 year anniversary of your first start in NFL. When you think back on that day what do you remember most?
Brady: “I don’t even remember. It was a long time ago. Yeah, I don’t even remember.”
Reporter: You won big.
Brady: “Yeah, we beat the Chargers.”
Reporter: I think it was the Colts.
Brady: “Or Colts. Yeah, see?”
Awesome.
And he cut his hair all off too.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
I don’t want to say the Patriots were banged up… but they did have 11 players participate in practice on a limited basis. Yikes. And, there were four players who didn’t practice, including guard Logan Mankins. I’m checking on this, but it could be his first practice missed while on the active roster.
Anyway, check out the team’s injury report:
Player Pos. Injury Wednesday Participation
Aaron Hernandez TE Knee DNP
Logan Mankins G Illness DNP
Sebastian Vollmer OT Back DNP
Mike Wright DL Concussion DNP
Kyle Arrington CB Chest Limited Participation
Leigh Bodden CB Groin Limited Participation
Patrick Chung S Hand Limited Participation
Ras-I Dowling CB Hip Limited Participation
Shaun Ellis DL Knee Limited Participation
Gary Guyton LB Hamstring Limited Participation
Albert Haynesworth DT Back Limited Participation
Jerod Mayo LB Thigh Limited Participation
Zoltan Mesko P Left Knee Limited Participation
Taylor Price WR Hamstring Limited Participation
Ryan Wendell OL Calf Limited Participation
Josh Barrett S Thumb Full Participation
Dane Fletcher LB Thumb Full Participation
What did Buffalo do to this team?
September 28th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Man.. if this team plays with the same emotion they played with against the jets… we’ll do fine… no let Downs!! Same with the fans…. hue Jack should call out the crowd like last week… build momentum and keep it!!
September 28th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
No doubt about it…. Brady is a very good qb… but very hard for me to put him on same level as Montana. .Elway… Marino… They won 3 super bowls. .but all three were won by their kicker… I see him closer to roethlisburger than the aforementioned. ..
September 28th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Brady is a good qb, but like any qb he isn’t as good when you put a good pass rush on him.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
OAK 27 NE 21 Bash Brady control the clock don’t let Welker break long 1’s and don’t let them have success running the ball.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Week Three power rankings
Posted by Mike Florio on September 27, 2011, 10:21 AM EDT
Cedric Griffin, Calvin Johnson AP
1. Packers (No. 1; 3-0): The Packers needed to play in the 2011 regular season like they played in the 2010 postseason. So far, they have.
2. Saints (No. 2; 2-1): The only thing that Week One game against the Packers helped determine was the location of the January rematch.
3. Lions (No. 7; 3-0): By winning in Minnesota for the first time since 1997, the Lions have exorcised yet another of their lingering demons.
4. Ravens (No. 9; 2-1): In their two wins, the Ravens have rolled up a total score of 72-14. If that version of the team shows up more often, the Ravens could be the team to beat in the AFC.
5. Bills (No. 11; 3-0): The 2008 Bills started 4-0 and finished 3-9. The 2011 Bills who played for the 2008 Bills are very aware of that.
6. Patriots (No. 3; 2-1): This team is doing pretty well for having neither a defense nor a running game.
7. Chargers (No. 5; 2-1): A winning record for the month of September should get these guys some sort of a commemorative paperweight.
8. Steelers (No. 10; 2-1): If offensive linemen keep getting injured, the Steelers may have to move Ben Roethlisberger to tackle.
9. Buccaneers (No. 15; 2-1): Eight years after one of the most memorable Monday night games ever, the Colts return to Tampa for something that likely will be far less compelling.
10. Raiders (No. 20; 2-1): Mark Sanchez wasn’t eating any hot dogs this time around.
11. Jets (No. 6; 2-1): With games at Baltimore and at New England, that 2-0 start could soon be 2-3.
12. Giants (No. 17; 2-1): New York’s original team could soon be nudging Rex and company out of the spotlight.
13. Cowboys (No. 14; 2-1): A team that should be 0-3 can defy placement at the unluckiest of numbers.
14. Texans (No. 8; 2-1): What could have been the most significant win in franchise history became just another missed opportunity.
15. Bears (No. 12; 1-2): Losing by 10 points to the Packers still wasn’t as ugly as those orange alternative jerseys the Bears wear.
16. Falcons (No. 6; 1-2): The Falcons are one of two NFC teams who were too desperate to try to close the gap with the Packers.
17. 49ers (No. 21; 2-1): The team that everyone expected to win the NFC West in 2010 and everyone expected to finish last in 2011 is, of course, currently in first place.
18. Redskins (No. 16; 2-1): John Beck? Keep your helmet handy.
19. Panthers (No. 19; 1-2): The man who arrived in the NFL with a tidal wave of hype literally rode a tidal wave to get his first win.
20. Titans (No. 22; 2-1): Without Kenny Britt, the Titans may not add to those two wins for a while.
21. Eagles (No. 13; 1-2): Somewhere, the 2000 Redskins are laughing their asses off.
22. Cardinals (No. 18; 1-2): The team that had no quarterback in 2010 has lost to a team that has no quarterback.
23. Jaguars (No. 23; 1-2): Somewhere, David Garrard is laughing his ass off.
24. Broncos (No. 24; 1-2): Maybe the Britt-less Titans will make an offer for the Broncos’ hot young receiving prospect, Tim Tebow.
25. Bengals (No. 25; 1-2): By the end of the season, there could be more people on the field than in the stands at Bengals home games.
26. Browns (No. 27; 2-1): Beating two of the worst teams in the league doesn’t make the Browns a good team.
27. Seahawks (No. 29; 1-2): The worst team to ever make the playoffs — the 2010 Seahawks — could have some competition this year.
28. Vikings (No. 28; 0-3): The Vikings never blew a 20-point halftime lead under Brad Childress, in large part because under Brad Childress the Vikings rarely led by 20 at halftime. Or at any other time.
29. Colts (No. 30; 0-3): Jim Irsay has a better chance of playing quarterback for the Colts this year than Peyton Manning.
30. Rams (No. 26; 0-3): If they can’t beat the Redskins with Washington is coming off a short week, the Rams may not win a game until November.
31. Dolphins (No. 31; 0-3): At least the Dolphins are playing as well on the road as they play at home.
32. Chiefs (No. 32; 0-3): When losing by only three points is cause for celebration, the season is a lost cause.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Satele’s decleater still gives me a chub.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d822a02ba/Week-3-Anatomy-Denarius-Moore-s-game-breaking-TD-run?continuous=true
September 28th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Raiders 24 Patises 17
September 28th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Little Wiz with his own jet toss.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d8229cb72/Wisniewski-paves-way-for-Bush-TD?continuous=true
and the Riads jumping up 10 spots in the power ranking.
wOOT!
September 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
big oak boy Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
is anyone still on here
JLofty Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
There’s something wrong with the board, BigOakBoy…
Blackmamba_20 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
as long as sullivan aint around,,,,Well, there’s your problem. Without the Sullen1 commenting, there’s only half as many posts per minute.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
It is a slow night on here. I can’t wait till Sunday. I have my ticket. It is up on Mount Davis, but at least it is on the 50yard line. I really don’t mind the view from there. It is a bit for from the field, but you get a good view of the field.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
What is up my Raider brothers and sister!
If anyone notices DonManoukiansNeighbor on here, please ask him to email me info on the Reno party bus again.. Turns out I can go see my beloved Raiders in possibly the biggest game of the year. WOOT! Otherwise I’ll get a single ticket somehow and rent a car etc..
CODE MTHFRICKIN JUMPED JOHNNY IN SIDECAR BLACK!!!!!!
September 28th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Sure would like to see the Rays score a couple of runs here. That group calling themselves redsock nation was a ripoff on the real nation. The Raider Nation.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Beat the holy fck out of Goldilocks!!! WWOOOOOOOOOOTTT!
September 28th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Wow, The Rays tie it with a two out 9th inning home run, a 7 run comeback!
September 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Sure would like to see the Rays score a couple of runs here. That group calling themselves redsock nation was a ripoff on the real nation. The Raider Nation.
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There is only One Nation.. Everyone here knows who we are. It pisses me off no end when hear any other group try to usurp our name…. I once heard Tom Jackson on BSPN use the term.. I almost can’t type it.. Bronco Nation.. ARE YOU FCKING KIDDING? I was enraged for weeks.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
I remember a lot of people in here bagging pretty hard on our O-line all summer. Now they’re the strength of the team. Go figure.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
It pisses me of too. It is so %^$%^&
September 28th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I am so stoked that I’m able to go this week.. It’ll be pretty easy to get a single ticket, I hope.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I thought it would take years rebuilding the line after switching from the zone blocking scheme to a power blocking scheme, but Al did it overnight. He is a genious. When Bruce Campbell and Barksdale get up to speen, this will be an unbelievable line.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
100.. agreed
September 28th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
D better be ready for 4 WO’s and a hurry up offense
September 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I had no problem on ticket.com It all depends on how much you want to pay. I got on the 50 your line on Mount Davis for $60, but you can get on field level for $200 or $300 if you want.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Also Campbell should change up the snap count every now and then
September 28th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
50 yard line
September 28th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Atkinson and Tatum would probably make a bet as to who puts Welker out of the game. Those guys wouldn’t be intimidated at all. They’d laugh at the scrawny dude. I just don’t see that kind of intensity yet, but somebody needs to step up.
September 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Ohio is old school!!! lol
September 28th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
There only 1 NATION!!! CODE BLACK
September 28th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Did you order the CODE BLACK?! DID YOU ORDER THE CODE BLACK?!?!?!?
September 28th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
The Assasin would’ve put a shoulder up under his chin on the first series…. which would probably be it.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
64.socalraider2408 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Really what we need to do is jam the Pats receivers at the line to throw off Bradys timing. I said it during the Bills game. Had CJ not been giving that cushion we would have won. Same thing with Brady! Jam the WRs and it’ll let our D-line put in work
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I’ve been thinking the same thing about the Pats. It makes the most sense to me.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
CJ is out, Chimdi stepped up pretty good last week
September 28th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Atkinson was not much bulkier than DVD. So he’d compensate by horse collaring the receiver. Tatum would lead with his head. Chuck Noll called them the “criminal element.” Sigh…
September 28th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
lol Ohio.. the good ol days
September 28th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
CJ was playing hurt, and giving a cushion to try to compensate. He should have not been out there. I was glad when he left the Jet game because he needs to get healthy so he can compete. I think he is a good corner, and I would like to see him out there when healthy, but NFL recievers are so fast and quick that he didn’t have a chance with his gimpy grion.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Lester Hayes covered from neck to waist in stickum…
September 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
This is weird, but I say concentrate on the pass and hope that our d-line can run defense on their own. We do have a bunch of speedy CB’s….I wonder why?
September 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Jerry Mcdonald-
I asked Tom Brady, “It was a fumble, right?” Said Brady after a long laugh: `You’ll never get the answer you’re looking for . . . ”
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It doesn’t matter. Brady has admitted a couple of times that he fumbled, including right here in this clip at the 1:15 mark. And I quote….
“I was so pissed. I couldn’t believe that I had fumbled the ball to lose the game.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiD9cF48AE0&feature=feedf
This is in my opinion, the most egregious and crooked call in the history of the NFL.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
88.. I think the feeling is beyond Routt they’re all so young… But they gotta ball sometime
September 28th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
This is in my opinion, the most egregious and crooked call in the history of the NFL.
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Brady not only had pulled it in, but had TWO HANDS on the ball when it was knocked away.
FUMBLE!
September 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
I have never gotten over that play. Especially since the replay rule says you have to have conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field, and Brady had brought the ball all the way down and covered it with his other hand before being stript. How can that be conclusive?
September 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Im wondering if it is legal to chop a WR at the Line..Like if you are taking off on your route and I just Chop you in half at the line within 5 yards..can I do that?
Would love to chop Welker in 2…
September 28th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
THE TUCK RULE GAME…was the night a grown man cried.There were some questionable,conservative plays called by Chucky but the “fumble” was the back breaker.
The refs or some higher power on the field that night,took the legacy of Charles Woodson and made a man named Brady the new face of the NFL. I will never forget the look on that bastard’s face when he was being interviewed after the game,laughing and smiling talking about ,”yeah it was a pass”…eff Brady and eff the Patriots!
That was the night a growm man cried…
GO RAIDERS…LETS SHOCK THE NFL & THE WORLD SUNDAY!
September 28th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Not below the knees, start at the stomach…and just cut your ass in half..that has to be legal right? Same as a bump and run..its not holding, and its not pass interference.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Then on the tieing field goal, that ball was kicked on such a low trejectory that it should have been blocked, but the defenders in the middle of the line didn’t get there hands up.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiD9cF48AE0&feature=feedf
Watch this video from 1:15 -1:20.
Brady says…and I quote…
“I was so pissed. I couldn’t believe that I had fumbled the ball to lose the game.”
Case closed. Discussion over. End of story. He admitted this on camera. There is nothing left to debate.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
It it would have never gotten to that point if Gruden had gone for it on 4rth and short with Zach Crocket, the best short yardage back I’ve ever seen.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Ten years later, and I still get mad when I think about it.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
# raiderkoolaid Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
It it would have never gotten to that point if Gruden had gone for it on 4rth and short with Zach Crocket, the best short yardage back I’ve ever seen.
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We can always second guess in hindsight. But the truth is, Charles Woodson made the play of the season and it was stolen from him and the entire team.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Correct. Jon Gruden cost us the super bowl that year.
Too sphinctitious.
Refs just piled on.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
It’s just so…….beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1nN1Gmqm3o&feature=related
September 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
It is the reason I hate the Cheatriots as much as the fckin Horse Faced Donkeys
September 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
The snow bowl was fixed. No way the NFL wanted to see Gruden take a Davis team deep. The refs were mandated to somehow stop the Raiders.
And to top it off, the Raiders had to sit on the runway for five hours while they cleared the snow for take off. Another staged incident by the NFL.
They could clear a spot on the field for the Vino fg, but they cant clear the runway.
Doesn’t matter now. Pats are comin to Oakland to pay up. Raiders will collect their due on Sunday. With interest.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Oh my Lo’!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dykt-1D_EBI&feature=related
September 28th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
# Raider On High Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
The snow bowl was fixed. No way the NFL wanted to see Gruden take a Davis team deep. The refs were mandated to somehow stop the Raiders.
And to top it off, the Raiders had to sit on the runway for five hours while they cleared the snow for take off. Another staged incident by the NFL.
They could clear a spot on the field for the Vino fg, but they cant clear the runway.
Doesn’t matter now. Pats are comin to Oakland to pay up. Raiders will collect their due on Sunday. With interest.
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I agree 1000%. And I know some of you might think that this is nonsensical, but keep in mind, this was only 3 months after 9/11. The Patriots jersey and colors are an American flag!
I remember watching the Patriots win the Super Bowl and seeing Mayor Giuliani in the luxury suite clapping and cheering like the Patriots were New York’s team.
The whole thing was a fix to boost morale and present American patriotism to the world.
Think about it. 3 months after 9′11, who do you think the NFL was gonna let represent the country to the rest of the world? The Raiders or the PATRIOTS?
You decide.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Raids gonna b1tch slap the brady bunch into submission, it will be a sweet thing to behold.
Bellachick is gonna cry foul all the way back home and his #1 b1tch boy gonna be a butt hurtin muthafukka cuz Oaktown goonna make him eat sch11t.
Coach Davis is long in memory and its time. The time has come back to Oaktown. and bellachick will need his diapers cuz he gonna be pissin outta his ass!
September 28th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Oh my Lo’!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dykt-1D_EBI&feature=related
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I wanna see a repeat of this on Sunday. Keep in mind the year we went to the Superbowl, we played New England at home and beat them. So in a sense we already got revenge.
But we could beat them 100 times straight, and it still wouldn’t be enough for me!
September 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
I hope Amy Trask has the Raiders print up some signs for the game ….TUCK THIS TOO! or PUNISH THE PATRIOTS
Slam the ball down their M F ing throats!!! Gosh I wish I could be out there Sunday.
Hey Terrapin Raider,where does the Raider Nation gather to watch the games in Bmore?
September 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
No one can ever argue that the league is out to get the Raiders. Agree ArmChair. The NFL wanted a squeaky clean as the new Americas Team.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
No one can ever argue the league ISN’T out for the Raiders. Its a fact they are.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
The “Tuck You” rule will forever be remembered as the worst call in NFL History.
Walt Coleman will be butt-f’ked in Hell along with Mike Pereira.
To this day I would spit in Walt Coleman’s face if I saw him and would not pizz on him if he were on fire.
September 28th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
They are comin for an ass whoopin, and the Patriots know it.
Bank it!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Papelbon blows the save! Ha ha ha ha!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
I hope Tampa wins now!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
September 28th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Coleman has been douching up the NFL sinces 98 i think.
“On December 8, 2002 at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin, the Packers came from behind to defeat the Minnesota Vikings, 26-22, in a contest in which the league would later admit that Coleman and his crew made nine officiating errors. One of the errors included a 28-yard pass interference penalty that was called on Vikings safety Corey Chavous, which helped the Packers to score their game-winning touchdown. The win helped keep Green Bay in the race for home-field advantage in the playoffs”
September 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
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September 28th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
More Coleman, how does the guy keep his job.
Coleman was the head official in the controversial 2003 AFC Championship Game between the New England Patriots and Indianapolis Colts at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Massachusetts. During the contest, the Patriots defense utilized an aggressive coverage scheme, involving the excessive jamming of the Colts wide receivers at the line of scrimmage, en route to a 24-14 win. Colts players would later publicly complain that the officials did not properly call illegal contact, pass interference, and defensive holding penalties on the Patriots’ defensive backs.[13] The controversial non-calls included New England cornerback Ty Law throwing Indianapolis receiver Marvin Harrison out-of-bounds during a pass play, and the contact applied to tight end Marcus Pollard during the Colts’ final drive. This, and similar complaints made by other NFL teams during that season, would prompt the NFL during the 2004 offseason to instruct all of the league’s officials to strictly enforce these types of fouls (the “chuck” rule) – a change that became known as the “Ty Law Rule”
September 28th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
payback is a b!tch.
September 28th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Look for as many different looks as New England is accustomed to presenting.
One thing; this is NOT the Superbowl winning Patsies. And, with as many blown assignments as they have become accustomed to, well, blowing (snow job; replaced by the blowjob!) more assignments when they’re utilizing multiple alignments.
But if Patrick Chung plays (he should; thumb surgery) the patsies will be more disciplined in their alignments. But, their front seven (excluding Willfork, the stud nose tackle) has been effectively playing on skates. The patsies will score, but I’ve seen a hot & bothered Brady; that guy is like any QB experiencing adversity on the road. The Raiders just gotta present enough of this scenario to get on the plus side of this expected shootout.
First to 48. . .!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Good evening nation.
I read one of you comment that the tuck rule game was only 3 months after 9/11 and that the Patriots went on to win the superbowl. It’s funny because I remember thinking that same thing when it happened. What a coincidence that the “Patriots” whose colors are red white and blue, won the superbowl that year.
I know, this is a crazy conspiracy theory if there’s one, but you have to admit that the timing was a bit strange.
Anyway, I am looking to this sunday to see Brady get slammed to the ground more than once.
GO RAIDERS!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
I think Hohn riggins is the best short yardage back in the history of the NFL. Talking running backs; how ’bout that alleged hit on Sweetness’ legacy? Drug addict & mac daddy?
But, back to the snowjob; Gru was probably disuaded from going for it on fourth down because he 1) had just ran for eight yards through Wiz’ spot (opposite Richard Seymour that day, if I recall correctly. also; I’ve ALWAYS thought Garner picked up the first down. The Snowjob was preceeded by a bad spot!) & didn’t have enough confidence in the slippery conditions to get proper traction in a short yardage situation. Or, maybe Middleton would hold, impacting field position. Who knows? They’re all more bitter than the most diehard Raider fan. They LIVED it!
Charles Woodson would have been the poster boy of the NFL! Brady? Burgeoning QB controversey, maybe next year syndrome for the Patsies. . .still hurts SO bad. The memories. . .
September 28th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
EMRaiders, I was pondering the same thing @ the time. . .
September 28th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
The past is history. Yes, we were cheated that ugly night. We’re 2-1 in 2011 and looking forward to another sellout at the Oakland Coliseum. Home field advantage means something again in the East Bay!!!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Regarding the Patriots, 9/11 theory, I suggested way back then the Raiders should put pictures of George W. Bush on their helmets with the eye patch. Might get us some calls.
September 28th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
But my how times have changed. If Wise Old Al does own the NFL territorial rights to Los Angeles, he would have the NFL by the proverbial balls. Along with their nut sack, and the backside of their ass. And in one hand he can squeeze those MFers and with the other he can give them the bird. Then he can tell them to fork over a cool three hundred million. Sweet!
Has Al Davis had any input on the consortium that wants to build the new stadium in the arm pit of California? No, and he probably doesn’t want to go back to that sespool L.A. town. So how are you going to lure a team to L.A. if Al does indeed own territorial rights? Gotta love it.
Al never makes a move without a back up plan. When he left L.A. he took more than just his Raiders back to Oakland. The cat is whack. Don’t mess with the man in black.
September 28th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Hue Jackson does not get enough credit as far as i’m concerned. That man is a leader of men and the best coach to coach in Oakland since Gruden left. The time is now. He knows how to utilize his personnel and maximize their potential by putting them into a position to be successful. In today’s NFL, defense works but you need to be able to score points to keep up with the changes to the game (rules). It is geared towards offensive football. The Raiders can now keep up with the best of them. Get it right Nation! We are back and although the Patriots may score 30+ points, WE CAN TOO! Bring on the Pats. The Raiders are ready to make a push in 2011 if they can stay somewhat healthy. Hungry players step up. Hue knows exactly how much to feed them to keep them hungry!Be positive not negative and support them. RRRRRAAAAAIIIDDDDEEERRRRSSSSS!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
tuck job wasn’t about a conspiracy against the Raiders. It was more of mob rule. Last game at Foxoboro. Those fans were on their way out until the loud speaker announced they were reviewing the play. refs had no choice but to give it to the pats at that point. They would have tore that place down. I still remember after they gave it back to the Pats, and the refs were talking and arguing with Gruden, Greg Papa said, “I’ll tell you what, they give it back to the Raiders? I’m out of here.”
September 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
jackson’s the real deal. Now comes the waiting game for when Al starts screwing with him. And, this is a way’ down the road, but Hue’s going to want to get paid at some point.
September 28th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
BTW, Rex sounded pathetic crying about the hit on Sanchez. Rex championed that style of football. Branded the Jets on it. I remember when they knocked Eli’s helmet 20 feet into the air in the preseason last year, and he boasted about it. Rex went from Buddy Ryan to Chuck Knoll in a matter of one day.
September 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
the frikin tuk rule was one of the greatest thefts in NFL history. one day we will get the truth directly from the dude that designed that cheat, till then we will have to wait for the truth….
September 28th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
wes welker is a beast. period. if routt gets him 15 times, then routt breaks the PI record, without a doubt…
September 28th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
we can beat the pats. just need to be more physical and take advantage of mistakes. worked wonders in the jets game…really looking forward to belicheat’s face when he realizes that his zone D is helpless vs Oaks run O and play action. we’ll score 27 without a problem… the real question is can chuky B keep them under 30… dont think so…dammmm
September 28th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Alfred E. Neuman with the eyepatch. . .same thing, Sully.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Nice observation @ 160, Sully.
Night all. . .dreams of a blissful Sunday outcome. . .
September 28th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Seymour wants ‘Black Hole rocking’
Check out the video:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-oakland-raiders/news/-?plfmxtax=football-oakland-raiders/news/-&blockID=569162&feedID=2801
September 28th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
jackson’s the real deal. Now comes the waiting game for when Al starts screwing with him. And, this is a way’ down the road, but Hue’s going to want to get paid at some point.
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oh boy. that’s sullivan announcing that regardless of how well the raiders do, he will still be here talking about “the future f*ck-up” of al davis that he sees in his head. guess we’ll never get rid of him.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
solution to welker: have mcclain cover him. he loves to body slam little guys. maybe he could hurt welker w/ a suplex!
September 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
I can understand why the national media is slow to give The Raiders respect after 7 loosing seasons and one 8-8 season, but The Raiders are earning it and they are coming around, but why are they so big on S.D.? All they have done is get a little worse every year since Norve Turner has been there, and yet they talk about them like they are one of the leagues premier teams.
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Last year San Diego had a top 5 offense and a top 5 defense. They still managed to lose. But that sort of production is why everyone thinks they’ll keep doing it. We’re just going to keep knocking them around and knock them off that pedistol(spelling?) people put them up on.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Rob Raider, do you expect any of us to believe that Al’s not eventually going to screw things up with Hue?
September 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
We need to do to Welker what we used to do to Lynn Swann HIT’EM knock him around and make him look for where the next hit is coming from.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
My gut feeling is just tellin me the Raiders are gonna do somethin special to the pattyrats. Like somethin along the lines of what they did to denver last year. It is gonna be special.
My gut feeling tells me the Raiders are gonna beat the livin dog sh1t outta those dick wads. and not just barely. I am talking about a good ol’ fashion ass pounding. The kind that degrades a team and its franchise.
Can you imagine those used to bes’ goin back to new england with their ass in theri hands, just hander to them by the Oakland Raiders? And all the low life pundits will ask “what is wrong with our poor brady and his bunch”, and no one will give credit to Hue Jack and his team of coaches and players. But they will notice what happened.
This game is gonna open some eyes. Big time. and brady and his butt coach will open their eyes to try and find what the fck just happened to them.
Yessiree, its goin to be a good ol’ fashion ass whoop handed down by the Raiders. And the used to be Pats can go look for their asses somewhere else.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Yea…!!! F’ The red sox!”"…. hopefully their rotten luck is carried over to the patsies!!! LOL…chokers! !
September 28th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
nobody here thinks he will but u and maybe a couple others who sympathize w/ u. hue’s doing a great job, has a great relationship w/ al, and has the team on the rise. u know this. if hue does really well, and after a few years, wants to get paid and al decides to let him go, sure i guess i can imagine it. but the most successful coaches in raiders history were madden and flores and they were here for 18 years. shell was pretty successful in the 90’s and was here for 6 years. the only successful coach that left early was gruden. it was a questionable move, made more glaring by the super bowl loss to him, but he faded w/ the bucs.
no reason to think hue won’t be here for 6 years or so.
ur attempt at creating this conversation has failed miserably. u got a few bites from some people that thought it might be something they missed but everyone else has called u out on it. nice try. it has no traction.
try to start another one. something w/ an element of what could be conceived as truth to it, like dhb seems to be getting phased out, could this be trouble brewing? see that might be a fun one for u.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
sullivan–the red sox just had a horrible collapse. maybe u could find a red sox blog and go on there and talk about how horrible the team is, etc. just like u do here. u could have fun for the entire offseason.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Rob… why even answer that foolish talkmm man… he’s a nut…. never talks about raider football… only wants to talk about the devil al Davis. .. its pathetic man… but for some reason people go down to his level and actually try to make sense of his gibberish. …
September 28th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
You know what’s amazing. I remember when Welker was traded to New England from Miami they were bashing NE for it saying “that’s not the type of player you build championships with”. Years later he’s constantly at the top of the league on # of receptions year after year. I wish we had a slot receiver like him and really helped keep that offense moving.
Now, on the Raiders, the player who has to improve from last week to this week for us to win is Campbell. He needs to get it done on 3rd down. Make those throws when they count and keep us going when we reach that point. McFadden will do his thing, but we will run into 3rd downs and will need to convert at least 40% of them this week.
The Jets put up 350 yards passing on us. The Pats are a way better passing team.
On the above post that mentioned that we’ll have 6 DBs out there, we don’t even have 6 healthy DBs that are even middle-of-the-pack to put out there.
We’ll have Routt and Chemdi. DVD. And only 1 quality Safety who’s not really beat up.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
bustanut
i kinda have that feeling too. the patriots defense is dead last in the nfl. anyone but the pats and this would have obvious potential for a shellacking. but we’re so used to thinking the pats are great. they have the same record as us. they are coming into a suddenly amped coliseum. and we have an offense that can score. i think a big key is ford’s return. we know dmc and bus, and possibly jones will get off. this will open up those seams for the speedsters to burn. and campbell has been showing very good accuracy and increasing confidence. i’m starting to think he could have a very big game as well. this just could be one our greatest games. a statement game that announces to the nation that the raiders are back. i’m not saying it will happen. i’m saying it’s starting to feel like that. i am optimistic.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Rob Raider, do you expect any of us to believe that Al’s not eventually going to screw things up with Hue?
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Dude you have been spewn this crap for 13 hrs today.
Go eat a D!ck or something.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Rob… why even answer that foolish talkmm man… he’s a nut…. never talks about raider football… only wants to talk about the devil al Davis. .. its pathetic man… but for some reason people go down to his level and actually try to make sense of his gibberish. …
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very true. i have had some fun ripping him for a little while, just to have some laughs. but i should probably just ignore him altogether. poor, misguided soul.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Goldie7 Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Let’s Go Raiders! I’ll never, ever, ever, never forget the “Tuck Rule”. Never in a million years.
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First off, it’s not the “Tuck Rule”. It’s called the “Snow Job.” For a multitude of reasons. Remember that.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Romac has two on the field suplexes in games. Now lets see the Back Breaker and Pile Driver Sunday.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
rob_raider Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
bustanut
i kinda have that feeling too. the patriots defense is dead last in the nfl. anyone but the pats and this would have obvious potential for a shellacking. but we’re so used to thinking the pats are great. they have the same record as us. they are coming into a suddenly amped coliseum. and we have an offense that can score. i think a big key is ford’s return. we know dmc and bus, and possibly jones will get off. this will open up those seams for the speedsters to burn. and campbell has been showing very good accuracy and increasing confidence. i’m starting to think he could have a very big game as well. this just could be one our greatest games. a statement game that announces to the nation that the raiders are back. i’m not saying it will happen. i’m saying it’s starting to feel like that. i am optimistic.
Yeah……… I just gotta feelin brady is in the dumps at the moment, gotta a feeling they truly don’t want to come here, Raiders gonna be juiced, Seymour is cranked up, and the Black Hole is gonna be fcking LOUD. Its just a gut feeling, the Raiders ready to take it up a notch. Its been a long time comin.
Its gonna be a blow out by the Raiders. A convincing win. It will be one for the ages. Thats just how I feel.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Swan was soft, Welker isn’t. So far there are 3 teams that didn’t know how to stop him. Although, I with you in thinking that a few MM34 hits could help slow him down. Throw in a MLB body slam just in case and they’re golden.
BAN THE TROLL!!! or at least make them line up in the Oklahoma drill against Big Sey after telling him they think he’s lying about his dad.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Whats A Drexl? Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Satele’s decleater still gives me a chub.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d822a02ba/Week-3-Anatomy-Denarius-Moore-s-game-breaking-TD-run?continuous=true
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I can’t get enough of that play. Still, even now, Satele’s clock-cleaning hit gets me amped up. And what a beautifully executed play. A work of art.
September 28th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Rob… I like talking about him needing his medication… but I try never to engage him in serious raider conversation. . Because he only wants to talk about how evil al Davis is… that’s it. Nothing else… I really do think the Guy needs psychological help… he’s totally obsessed with the old man… he must have a secret fantasy of giving al Davis a sponge bath before strangling him…lol
September 28th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
according to kc joyner on espn.com:
But after doing detailed game tape and metric analysis, it is clear this team is not the same old Raiders. In fact, it looks like a bona fide playoff contender.
September 28th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
I saw that…. they put the raiders …
Top 10 in power rankings in NFL…. when was the last time we were that high??
September 28th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
ghostraiders Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Rob… why even answer that foolish talkmm man… he’s a nut…. never talks about raider football… only wants to talk about the devil al Davis. .. its pathetic man… but for some reason people go down to his level and actually try to make sense of his gibberish. …
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Actually he is bad for the team. Very bad. So is the other moron, Koolkell. And let me explain why. When you take the culpability of who is actually responsible for losses, i.e. the players, and continually put it onto Davis, it removes the culpability of the players who are actually responsible. Not Al Davis who is 3000 miles from the field. In other words, if someone walks into a school and shoots 20 kids, and then turns around and says “It wasn’t me, it was the guns fault,” it’s the same principle. Put the culpability on the culprit. If McClain cannot tackle Tomlinson, blame McClain. If McClain cannot tackle anyone, then at the end of the year, you can blame Davis.
September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
i have one little issue w/ satele’s hit. there were two guys standing there, waiting to be blocked. he chose the smallest and furthest away. luckily moore just flew by the bigger and closer guy. i will be the first to say i’m not really a big satele fan. it just kinda seemed like he went for the easy kill. the only reason i could see it is if he thought the play was going outside, which is a distinct possibility. it goes fast and maybe he thought he was taking out the outside man for denarious. just an observation that kinds bugged me b/c like everyone, i got juiced when i saw it, but when i noticed it was satele, i was a little surprised. maybe i’m on the verge going “sullivan” on satele. uh-oh. get ready for countless daily rips of satele.
September 28th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Rob_raider Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
i have one little issue w/ satele’s hit. there were two guys standing there, waiting to be blocked. he chose the smallest and furthest away. luckily moore just flew by the bigger and closer guy. i will be the first to say i’m not really a big satele fan. it just kinda seemed like he went for the easy kill. the only reason i could see it is if he thought the play was going outside, which is a distinct possibility. it goes fast and maybe he thought he was taking out the outside man for denarious. just an observation that kinds bugged me b/c like everyone, i got juiced when i saw it, but when i noticed it was satele, i was a little surprised. maybe i’m on the verge going “sullivan” on satele. uh-oh. get ready for countless daily rips of satele.
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Nah, I don’t see it that way. The bigger guy isn’t nimble enough to get Moore. Besides, I think he got the guy that was closest to him, and therefore closer to catching Moore since Satele was down the field a bit.
September 28th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
welp…..lil Tom married a brazilian tramp, calls herself a model, walks down a ramp,
Gisele has tommie by the balls, she scolds him for misbehavior, he squalls and squalls…..
2009 was the end for lil Tom, has pass completions, but somehow he bombs…
once he’s roughed up, and gets his butt kicked too, Gisele steps in, she’s no one’s fool….
has her foot on this throat,spike heel up his butt, he gives her lip she’ll crack his nut…
if the team wants the game they’ll break tommie’s nose, jam his face in the mud and crack his toes,
when his whore gets to screaching we’ll know we’ve won, won’t be hard, just get her done…
lil tommie gave his first born, its mommy’s last name,
he’s a coward and low-life, under that golden mane,
I say whoop him, and whoop him good, the Pats will fall just like they should…..
Just Lose Baby !!!! I out…….
September 29th, 2011 at 1:15 am
I highly doubt the Patriots will try to win the game by running the ball on us. Why take the ball out of their best player’s hand? Running is not their strenght, Brady is. They’ll only run to keep us honest. The Patriots knows that our weakness is at DB. Do the Raiders have the talent to match with Welker and Gronkowski? Injuries, youth, and inexperience in our CBs will be thoroughly tested. That’s where they’re going to attack.
On defense, the Patriots knows all about McFadden. Expect to see a lot of 8 man fronts. I think the Patriots rather make Campbell win the game, then to have McFadden do a repeat of the Jet’s Game. One positive, is that Campbell has shown the ability in the Bills game to be a 300 Yard pass and able to make the right decisions. But keep in mind, we did lose that game. Patriots want a shoot out. It will be up to our defense to stop Brady and his wild bandits.
September 29th, 2011 at 1:27 am
Denarius Moore is such a special player at such a young age. Rarely do WRs come into the league and be this productive this fast. WRs usually needs time to get adjusted to the speed of the NFL, DBs of the NFL and even get the timing down with their QB. More often then not, WRs need 3 years to round into shape. Last week, even with limited catches vs. the Jets (Revis, one of the best if not the best), Moore was still able to make an impact on the game with his abilities. Hands down he should be our starting WR.
The other starting WR should be Jacoby Ford when he returns. Lightning in a bottle. Ford had Raider Nation salivating on his enormous potential going into 2011. We’re just happened to get blind sided by #17. If Jacoby comes back with the same desire like how he finished up with last year, our starting WR combo could be deadly. Jacoby’s speed is deadly. Moore is so fluid he reminds me of how Jerry Rice glides when he runs. I think Moore already has the best hands from our WR corps. Hagens is not far behind in that department. Without the same pressure on them like in the past, I think both DHB and Schilens can contribute and be more effective. Louis Murphy hasn’t even been mentioned and he’s still a very talented WR. Nick Miller is half way out the door.
September 29th, 2011 at 5:53 am
I think we have da personel to what the Browns done to the Saints & Pats last season.We shld watch da flim from those 2 games and apply some of those looks,cuz it seem to confuse the hell out of Brees & Brady that season.
Sometime rush 3 and drop 8…rush 2 drop 9 with Wimbley dropping into the middle from his De position and have Groves or Moss or Sho-nasty drop underneath Wes Wel and bracket him wit a Db
Not saying use it the hold game,but use it on a few 3rd down and mediums cld giv Brady sometime to think about and confuse his pre-snap reads,because once he can dictate what the Dee is doing is when he spreads it all around
But Let’s Get It Done Raiders
Raiderszzzzzz…OneNation…UndaGod
September 29th, 2011 at 7:46 am
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September 28th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
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# DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Romac has two on the field suplexes in games. Now lets see the Back Breaker and Pile Driver Sunday.
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Wouldn’t mind seeing a Camel Clutch or even the Figure Four while were at it..
September 29th, 2011 at 7:49 am
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September 29th, 2011 at 7:52 am
# rob_raider Says:
September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
i have one little issue w/ satele’s hit. there were two guys standing there, waiting to be blocked. he chose the smallest and furthest away. luckily moore just flew by the bigger and closer guy. i will be the first to say i’m not really a big satele fan. it just kinda seemed like he went for the easy kill. the only reason i could see it is if he thought the play was going outside, which is a distinct possibility. it goes fast and maybe he thought he was taking out the outside man for denarious. just an observation that kinds bugged me b/c like everyone, i got juiced when i saw it, but when i noticed it was satele, i was a little surprised. maybe i’m on the verge going “sullivan” on satele. uh-oh. get ready for countless daily rips of satele.
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It was that punk from the Ravens Leonard..dude thinks he is John Lynch…well, he done got the John Lynch Treatment..
Trust me, Satele didn’t ‘pick the smaller guy’ Leonard was in Satele’s wheelhouse and got crushed out of the ballpark..When you have pads on and you see a guy who doesn’t see you, and your about to make a block on him..He could be the size of Tommy Kelly and you wouldn’t get hurt..in fact, it feels like hitting the sweet spot on a baseball.
Ahhh memories.
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