Belichick on Raiders, Davis
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, September 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am in Oakland Raiders.
Some great stuff from Patriots coach Bill Belichick today to New England reporters on his head coaching inteview with Al Davis before the 1998 season. As closed off as Belichick can be, occasionally he is expansive and illuminating. He’s said some of these things before, but they’re worth repeating:
Q: What do you remember from that meeting with Al Davis? What did you take away from that?
Belichick: I thought it was good. It was good. It was good experience for me. I went out there after the ’98 season. We had a good couple days of conversation. I told him when I got out there – it really seemed like a waste of time because I felt pretty certain that he wouldn’t hire a defensive coach, because he hasn’t since Eddie Erdelatz in (1960).
Note: Davis didn’t hire Erdelatz. He was working for Sid Gillman and the Los Angeles Chargers.
It’s a parade of offensive coaches out there. He’s really a defensive coordinator and has been. You know, it was good because we talked a lot about football and he’s very, very knowledgeable about the game, personnel, schemes, adjustments and so forth. He was asking a lot of questions about what we did defensively. You kind of don’t want to give too much information there because you know, he’s running the defense. He wasn’t really too interested in talking about offensive football – a little bit. He’s a great mind.
It was unlike any other interview I’ve ever had with an owner because he was so in-depth, his interview was so in-depth really about football, about ‘Xs’ and ‘Os’ and strategy and use of personnel and acquisition of – all the things really that a coach would talk about, that’s really what he talked about. That made it pretty unique. But he hired a good coach, [Jon] Gruden. Which is again, in all honesty, the way that I expected it to go because that’s been all the Oakland coaches from Art Shell to Mike White, Joe Bugel, [Mike] Shanahan, you know right down the line, Lane Kiffin, they’re all offensive coaches.
They have their own way of doing things which is interesting but certainly well thought-out and well planned. I’m not saying that in a negative way at all, they just have their own of doing it – they’ve had a lot of success. It was a great experience for me to have those couple days of conversations with him and also some other members of his organization relative, again, to the overall way of doing things.
Q: You’re obviously someone who has taken things from other great coaches and coordinators in the past. What mark did Al Davis leave on you defensively when you look back at his Raiders teams from the ‘60s and ‘70s?
Belichick: Well, you look at the same thing today, there’s not a lot of difference. Like I said, he’s really run the defense and to a large extent the kicking game out there for the ‘60s, ‘70s, 80’s, 90’s – 40 years, maybe more than that, I don’t know. But he’s, again they have their style of play, they have their way of doing things. As much as you can say this is a copycat league and things like that, you can’t really say that about them because they’ve done the same thing now for decades defensively and to a certain extent, offensively.
Through the course of my career, I’ve had the opportunity, just as luck would have it really, that some people that I was very close to in coaching were in that organization. In talking football, I feel like I know a lot about what they do, how they do it, again through third parties now, not directly, but through third parties. It makes a lot of sense. They definitely have a plan. I think I understand basically what they’re trying to do and how they’re trying to do it. I think it’s consistent and I’ve taken a lot from that.
The personnel side of it, the way they look at certain things in the game and what their priorities are. I definitely have tried to look at those and incorporate some of them into what we do. We do things a little bit differently than they do, but that’s okay. You just want it to be consistent and you want it to finish at the end game – where you want to be. That’s what everybody is trying to do. It’s well thought-out. I don’t think it’s a trial-and-error system. It’s a proven system, they believe in it and they’re going to follow it.
Q: You mentioned the Raiders way of doing things. Hue Jackson seems to have really taken on the Raiders persona and he’s talked about wanting to instill that Raiders and ‘Black Hole’ culture into the team. Have you noticed them transitioning back to the way things were when they were in the height of their organization?
Belichick: Again, I don’t know that that’s ever totally left. I definitely think he’s done a good job of building on the Raider pride and their historical success. Again, they played well last year, won every game in their division, which as we know is hard to do and [they] are off to a good start this year. He’s done a good job with the team – the team is playing well.
They were a good football team last year and they’ve been a good football team. I’m not saying their record has always reflected that. We’ve never played the Raiders or prepared to play the Raiders and not recognized the strengths that they had and what they’re capable of doing. I can’t speak to all the other games and so forth, but just watching them, they do a lot of things. They have a good team, they have a good program in place and its showing up in the win column so far this year and it did last year in their division. You have to recognize that.
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September 30th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Got a knack for primero.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Man, Bill really is an evil genius.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Sounds like he’s got a pretty good idea of what we’re going to be doing to him. Wonder if Bresh will toss in some wrinkles to throw them off or just stay tried and true, line up and beat the guy in front of oyu.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am
RAIDERS–35 CHEATRIOTS–27
September 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am
inonewordraider Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Same goes for Jacoby Ford, who even fielded a few punts today
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So who’s replacing NMiller on the roster?
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Bring in Lofa to give Ro-Mac-N-Cheese a breather
kid looks gassed out there waaay toooo muuch
September 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
From Boston Herald Ian Rapaport
FOXBORO — The loss didn’t serve as a wakeup call. One wasn’t necessary.
The Patriots [team stats] defense saw their warts in two early wins, even while celebrating their well-timed turnovers and propensity for goal-line stands. They didn’t need a defeat to the Bills to alert them to their shortcomings.
All the result did was sound the alarm louder.
“We have to get better — fast,” linebacker and captain Jerod Mayo said.
The outside world is abuzz about the Pats defense, taking time to debate how in the world coach Bill Belichick’s unit will improve. Mayo doesn’t listen to the noise. He just feels it. Talk to him after a loss to understand the emotion that comes with discussing each gaffe or big-play allowed.
The Pro Bowler doesn’t have to flip on a TV.
“You feel it in the locker room, just that sense of urgency to get better now,” Mayo said. “I wouldn’t say pressure, it’s just now is the time. We have to take it one game at a time and it starts this week.”
The Raiders, with their run-first offense featuring Darren McFadden and an in-your-face style, await in the Black Hole on Sunday. They will look to gash the Pats like they did the Jets.
The group Oakland faces isn’t impressive, according to the statistics. The Pats ‘D’ is last in yards allowed and passing yards allowed, 27th in points allowed and 25th in third-down percentage.
There is young and old talent on the unit with six first-round picks considered starters and three second-rounders.
At some point, execution and performance overwhelms potential.
“I really don’t think it matters how talented we are,” cornerback Devin McCourty said. “I think it’s all about going out there and doing it. We’re worried about improving, especially when you come off a loss, you’re hungry to go out there and get a better taste in your mouth.”
Now, the onus is on the players.
“We have great players on our defense,” Mayo said. “At the same time, we have to go out and prove it on Sundays. Up to this point, we really haven’t done that. The numbers are what they are. We have to go out and try to change those numbers.
“No matter how good you think you are, the numbers don’t lie.”
Raw, real words from the captain. He wasn’t alone.
Not after the Patriots [team stats] watched Dolphins quarterback Chad Henne throw for 400 yards, the Chargers offense convert 10-of-12 third downs and the Bills offense overcome a 21-0 deficit.
The Patriots are not unaware of several lingering defensive issues. Tackling has been a focus, as the team was in full pads on Wednesday for the first time since opening week. Mayo pointed out that they harp on the fundamentals, anyway.
“We try to do the best we can with all of our practice and preparation opportunities,” Belichick said.
Outside the facility, the reaction has been strong, even if players say they rarely watch television, read articles or listen to talk radio.
Yet while they sense the uproar, they don’t believe the situation necessitates major change.
“Just to do things better,” defensive end Andre Carter said. “We have great character of men on this football field, we have the veteran leadership, but it’s all about execution. The most important thing is being consistent. And unfortunately, we have been inconsistent in showing this is our identity. Then there will be a series or play that was, ‘OK, we took a step back.’ ”
With safety Patrick Chung back from injury and with one more game of experience in their new scheme, perhaps this is the week the Pats show their steadiness. They rebounded last year after losing to Cleveland, running off eight straight wins.
They hope for a repeat.
“Anytime you come off a loss, it’s like ‘Hey, we have to bounce back,’ ” Mayo said. “We continued to get better after that (Browns loss) and we ran off a good number of games in row. Hopefully that trend continues.”
September 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Lofa is done. He visited with 7 or 8 teams and not one of them thought about signing him. His knee is hammered
September 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Hi again, Jerry.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Raiders 34 Pats 31
September 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am
It’s well thought-out. I don’t think it’s a trial-and-error system. It’s a proven system, they believe in it and they’re going to follow it.
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I feel like Bill believes more in trying different things to see if they work ie. going to man to man coverage to possibly get more of a pass rush which they’ve been lacking whereas Al sticks to his guns. Hopefully our ways continue to work this year and anyways his record sucked at Cleveland
September 30th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Guest123 Raider 49 Pats 38
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says: Raiders 24 Pats: 6
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
oldschoolraider Raiders 29 Patriots 14
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
Pretty Rick Raiders-38 Pats-34
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
Raiders_83 Raiders 34 Pats 31
Raiderzmaverick Raiders 34, Pats 28
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
September 30th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Knowing what Al will do is scary in its own right! But hope Chuck B does throw in a wrinkle or two out there just to keep them guessing!
September 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Sup 909
September 30th, 2011 at 11:39 am
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am
RAIDERS–35 CHEATRIOTS–27
September 30th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Raiders – 45
Pats – 38
September 30th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Raiders_83 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Sup 909
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CANT’T WAIT for Sunday…Bullyball..
September 30th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Bad time for Boston fans…
1st the Red Sox fail
Then Brady goes down
September 30th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Some folks are wondering why Huff is still out when he already passed his concussion exam or whatever the hell…
If you go back to when he gets shaken up on one of the Jets’ early drives, the same play he gets his bell rung he also rolls over his ankle pretty badly. Hue said earlier this week that he has a number of issues and I’m thinking the concussion isn’t the worst of them.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
**CAN’T**…..errrrrrr……
September 30th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Then Brady goes down
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……and out on the John Deere six wheeler….
September 30th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Maybe the Raiders use the multi-safety formation often. Like Boyd and Mitchell playing OLB. To cover guys like Welker and their TEs.
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GG,
you mean the 5 safety defense that David Garrard torched and got John Marshall fired?
Yikes!
you want Brady to set a record against us for passing yards and/or TD’s?
September 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I think Benjarvis Green-Ellis will rush for 120 yards and a TD on us if we roll out 6 DB’s on the regular
gotta disguise some things. change it up and keep Brady guessing
Like “BAM!!! where the bleep did Wimbley come from ???”
September 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–35 CHEATRIOTS–27
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Guest123 Raider 49 Pats 38
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says: Raiders 24 Pats: 6
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
oldschoolraider Raiders 29 Patriots 14
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
Pretty Rick Raiders-38 Pats-34
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
Raiders_83 Raiders 34 Pats 31
Raiderzmaverick Raiders 34, Pats 28
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Ryan Raiders – 45 Pats – 38
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
September 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Coach Davis= issuing CODE BLACKs since 1963….so you dont like it? Fk off and move da fk on!
September 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Bill’s buttering Al up for some more first round draft picks.
September 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
DE Matt Shaughnessy (shoulder) out.
Would it be wise to sub in another base de like Desmond Bryant or since we’re facing the pass happy gayriots have a pass rushing specialist like Moss, Scott or Wimbley there at all times?
Would rather see Lamarr Houston play DT this week and make John Henderson inactive. He’s not needed. I wouldn’t even mind seeing a little Groves at DE if need be this week. That dude is playing like a man possessed – forget what ROG says. Watch the tape
September 30th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Bill’s buttering Al up for some more first round draft picks
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Brady or Mankins on the trade block?
didn’t think so.
NEXT!
September 30th, 2011 at 11:57 am
RRS i agree
September 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am
B@UCE….leaving to start my weekend…see you Sunday!
Everyone else coming to the game this Sunday…see you there!
September 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am
MR you get buttered up all day n night with the family cat cuz thats the only pssy you will ever get
September 30th, 2011 at 11:59 am
13.bcz24 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I said in preseason that the ‘Hawks would look to trade Curry before the deadline, he obviously isnt in their plans because they gave him a huge pay cut and chopped off the last year or two of his contract this year. He will be a free agent at the end of the year and will walk without compensation. Trade Murphy or DHB for Curry… Cable loves his former teammates, and we are fine without murphy or DHB
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Nice post!
Obviously!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Hwnrdr….yes bruh! Its on….Clear Remy the big boy is coming out. Hope to meet Dirt Lot as well
September 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Oh yeah! CODE BLACK 2011, week 4! LET’S GO RAIDERS!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The more physical team wins this one. NE is gonna come out throwing… maybe the first 20-25 plays will all be passes. They will try to remove McFadden from the game by jumping to an early lead. We have to weather the initial storm, and beat them down in the second half.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
So who’s replacing NMiller on the roster?
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Pryor
September 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
DE Matt Shaughnessy (shoulder) out.
Would it be wise to sub in another base de like Desmond Bryant or since we’re facing the pass happy gayriots have a pass rushing specialist like Moss, Scott or Wimbley there at all times?
Would rather see Lamarr Houston play DT this week and make John Henderson inactive. He’s not needed. I wouldn’t even mind seeing a little Groves at DE if need be this week. That dude is playing like a man possessed – forget what ROG says. Watch the tape
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I think they’ll test our run D with Jarvis Ellis, good oline decent back
September 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Trade Murphy or DHB for Curry
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BCZ,
Sam Williams > Aaron Curry
trade Nick Miller to Seattle!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Qodrn Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am
qodrn Says:
September 29th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Guest123 Raider 49 Pats 38
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says: Raiders 24 Pats: 6
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
oldschoolraider Raiders 29 Patriots 14
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
Pretty Rick Raiders-38 Pats-34
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
Raiderzmaverick Raiders 34, Pats 28
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
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Raiders 31
Cheatriots 20
September 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Bill’s buttering Al up for some more first round draft picks.
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Good. Al has fleeced him in every trade since the Randy Moss trade.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Sheeeeiiiit. Al Davis has never won without Ron Wolf or Jon Gruden. Fugg Al. He had a neat idea with the Raiders and the uniforms, etc. But that’s about where it stops. He doesn’t know how to build a team. And you know he’s gonna run Hue out of here just like he did Kiffin.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
The more physical team wins this one.
I think they’ll test our run D with Jarvis Ellis, good oline decent back
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Fellas,
if you think that the Pats will try to establish the run instead of do what they do best (Brady to Welker, Branch & Gronkowski) you’re sadly mistaken.
Bill Belly isn’t stupid. I’m pretty sure he’ll see that CJ37 is out. Huff might be out? Boyd is nicked. Mitchell hasn’t played football in months. DVD makes Clarence Love look like Darrelle Revis. Chewy is a rookie. Routt is penalty prone. Branch was AWFUL in coverage last year. McClain is AWFUL in coverage this year
plus we got Big Rich up the middle with a full head of steam. He’s gonna have Tommy Kelly fired up too. trust that – they wont have more than 8 rushing attempts all game unless they build up a 14+ point lead
September 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Wassup peoples!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Miller for Curry. I like it.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Davy Jones Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Good. Al has fleeced him in every trade since the Randy Moss trade.
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Surely you’re not basing this on their respective winning percentages since that time….
September 30th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Qodrn Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am
qodrn Says:
September 29th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Guest123 Raider 49 Pats 38
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says: Raiders 24 Pats: 6
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
oldschoolraider Raiders 29 Patriots 14
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
Pretty Rick Raiders-38 Pats-34
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
Raiderzmaverick Raiders 34, Pats 28
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
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Raiders 31
Cheatriots 20
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Raiders 34
Patsies 28
September 30th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Al has fleeced him in every trade since the Randy Moss trade.
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Davy Jones,
and every trade before that one, too!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
JDJohnDickinson Chris Johnson is OUT for the #Raiders. Jacoby Ford questionable @957thegame
29 minutes ago
September 30th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
ROG,
what are your thoughts on Gordon at FB?
nice hands. punishing blocker. 6′4″ 265
Marcel Reece = fat receiver
6′3″ 240 lbs
likely out with an ankle injury …
September 30th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Damn!
These popusas are on hit!
hella good!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Chris Johnson is OUT for the #Raiders. Jacoby Ford questionable
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909,
thanks – but no surprise. I guess it’s “official”
September 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Davy Jones Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Good. Al has fleeced him in every trade since the Randy Moss trade.
……..
Surely you’re not basing this on their respective winning percentages since that time….
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I’m sure YOU are judging it that way, but to an impartial observer, a 3rd for Burgess and a 5th for Gabriel was hihgway robbery. The Seymour trade, while not a robbery, is working out better for us than them.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
RapSheet The Patriots have declared TE Aaron Hernandez (knee), RT Sebastian Vollmer (back) and DL Mike Wright (head) OUT for #Raiders game
32 minutes ago
September 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Obviously.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Davy, you do understand the object of this game is to win, right?
Belichick wins.
Davis doesn’t.
But go ahead and brag about how Davis “fleeces” him with trades. lol. Like it does any good.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Hwnrdr….yes bruh! Its on….Clear Remy the big boy is coming out. Hope to meet Dirt Lot as well
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We need to say a place where we’ll be, because I got a feeling the phones will be fked up again.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
We will get blown out if we go 0-8 on 3rd downs again. Thats the keyto the game. Converting 3rd downs and keeping Brady on the sidelines.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Belichick gets what he wants from Davis, and continues to win. That’s not getting fleeced.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Is Vollmer their starter @ RT?…
September 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
The Seymour trade, while not a robbery, is working out better for us than them.
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I think that was an equal trade, and in the end they will get more out of it. Solder is playing pretty solid football right now, and will be around a lot longer than Seymour
September 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
58.909RaiderLifer Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Is Vollmer their starter @ RT?…
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He is, but he hasnt played yet this season, Solder has started every game at RT
September 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Interesting …
Rookie OT Nate Solder (the Pats selected with the Seymour pick) will be starting at RT for the injured Sebastian Vollmer!
Kam Wimbley = 3 sacks
Mankins limited participation in practice this week with an undisclosed illness.
Seymour/Kelly ready?
September 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Q….Raiders 34…….Pats 28……..
September 30th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
bcz24 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
The Seymour trade, while not a robbery, is working out better for us than them.
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I think that was an equal trade, and in the end they will get more out of it. Solder is playing pretty solid football right now, and will be around a lot longer than Seymour
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Cant account for the impact of Seymour in the locker room
September 30th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
JDJohnDickinson #RAIDERS injury update: C. Johnson OUT… Reece, Shaughnessy, Ford, Huff, Mitchell all questionable @957thegame
26 minutes ago
September 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Davy, you do understand the object of this game is to win, right?
Belichick wins.
Davis doesn’t.
But go ahead and brag about how Davis “fleeces” him with trades. lol. Like it does any good.
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So Richard Seymour hasn’t done any good for this team. Riiiiggght.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Imagine the life you must lead to wake up every day and know that ripping on Al Davis, and getting laughed at is all you have to look forward too… Damn your life must be an endless pit of despair. I would off myself if I was you.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
When are some of you guys going to come to the realization that the person who is taking Nick Millers spot on the roster is going to be Pryor?
We’re not cutting a player to bring in a player just to cut another player in two weeks. It’s that simple. Miller won’t be a Raider come week 6.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Trevor Scott needs to have a big game.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
What Bill was saying in a nice way was that Al runs the defense and has for 40 years and it has not changed in those 40 years.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Someone just said john Henderson should be inactive and that he doesn’t do anything.lol.do you know how to watch football? Stats isn’t everything. He is one of the most respected guys on the team and plugs up the hole.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
He is, but he hasnt played yet this season, Solder has started every game at RT
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Cant account for the impact of Seymour in the locker room
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Absolutely, I am not saying that we didnt get our moneys worth. Not at all, just saying that if Solder works out to be a 10 year starter on their OLine then they made out pretty well.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Whats up Raider fans.. and the other. Got my ticket in my hand, and will be blasting over the Sierras EARLY Sum morn.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Sun..
September 30th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
JDJohnDickinson The only hint coach Jackson gave as to who would start for any of the injured players is Jarvis Moss possibly for Shaughnessy #Raiders
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
bcz24 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
The Seymour trade, while not a robbery, is working out better for us than them.
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I think that was an equal trade, and in the end they will get more out of it. Solder is playing pretty solid football right now, and will be around a lot longer than Seymour
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We’ll see. Solder has played well so far, but has yet to demonstrate that he will ever be the kind of impact player Seymour is.
And you don’t know that he will be around a lot longer. Solder could blow out a knee on Sunday and Seymour could play as long as Bruce Smith did.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Plunk, off topic, were you at the airshow? A tradgedy!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
No, I was working… But had some people come in who were there. They all looked shell-shocked and were saying they felt lucky to have survived.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
JDJohnDickinson Coach Jackson said it will be, “next man up” in the secondary but hadn’t determined who would start at those positions #Raiders
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
JDJohnDickinson The only hint coach Jackson gave as to who would start for any of the injured players is Jarvis Moss possibly for Shaughnessy #Raiders
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I want to see some more of this on pretty boy, this week end. (Rip his fk’n head off!)
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Enjoy yourself on Sun, we are going to take it to the house!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I am geeked beyond belief… CODE BLACK!!!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Raiders 33
Pats 30
September 30th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Someone just said john Henderson should be inactive and that he doesn’t do anything.lol.do you know how to watch football? Stats isn’t everything. He is one of the most respected guys on the team and plugs up the hole.
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SharkCatcher,
you missed the point.
FYI – I never said “he doesn’t do anything”
I suggested he be inactive so that we can keep as many pass rushers on the field as possible. Big John certainly isn’t going to do that. He’s a run clogger. Do you see Green-Ellis & Woodhead running for 150-200? me neither. Brady needs to be on his back. Thats why I want Houston in the middle subbing for Seymour & Kelly and a pass rusher on each end! Get it?
I’m not hating on Henderson. It’s about strengths & weaknesses. We may have enough injured players to fill up the inactive list? who knows? toss Nick Miller in with them too. He’s hot trash for sure. I just don’t want to see JH on the field unless it’s 4th & 1 on the goaline and Tom Brady is gonna do a QB keeper
September 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
They just re-played Papa’s radio call of the Tuck Job, on the local sport talk radio here…
The horrah…the horra…
September 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Back to the fleecing subject: New England got NOTHING out of Derrick Burgess, and the Raiders got . . . LaMarr Houston.
Burgess, on the other hand, is currently without a job.
Sorry, MR, but I’m going to go ahead and say that trade DID help. And it’s going to keep on helping.
Belicheat got fleeced.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
I am geeked
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LOL!
haven’t heard that catch phrase in a while.
PlunkHOF = Cable guy?
September 30th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
New England got NOTHING out of Derrick Burgess, and the Raiders got . . . LaMarr Houston.
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DJ,
perhaps I’m missing some draft day trades or something, but Houston was a 2nd rounder
we got two 3rd’s for Burgess
September 30th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
later gents!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I know MM hasn’t played or practiced at all, but we could really use him this week end to help contain Gradkowski. Wonder how much playing MM will get?
September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
I want to see some more of this on pretty boy, this week end. (Rip his fk’n head off!)
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RRS, we traded down with NE before getting Houston with that 2nd. Got an extra pick from NE out of it. So I think we actually got Ford out of it.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Or Veldheer? We wheeled and dealed a bit that day.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RRS,
Isn’t Henderson 6′7″? The man would be an asset getting his arms up to maybe bat down those short crossing routes to Welker or TE’s.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
New England got NOTHING out of Derrick Burgess, and the Raiders got . . . LaMarr Houston.
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DJ,
perhaps I’m missing some draft day trades or something, but Houston was a 2nd rounder
we got two 3rd’s for Burgess
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You’re right, it was the third rounder, which was Veldheer. Still would make that trade every day and twice on Sundays.
It was a third and a fifth, btw. The fifth would be Walter McFadden.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Big John will be active and has to be. I have this weird feeling that NE will try to run on us more than they did vs. their first 3 opponents.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I see your point . I still feel that t you need massive strength in the middle to make the line collapse and force Brady out the pocket and into an in coming de.Houston is legit but not strong enough to play dt(I know he played that in college)
September 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
DMAC, I think MM34 practiced all week. So he probably could go at least half the snaps if needed. Can’t wait for this game!!!
September 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
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Hey raider peeps i live in socal and i want to go to the nov10 game in san Diego and i want to take my three year old son to see his first football game. Do u guys think thats a good idea seeing how rowdy fans can get? And also for those who have been there is there any bad seats there..i heard it was a pretty good stadium?
September 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
92.LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RRS, we traded down with NE before getting Houston with that 2nd. Got an extra pick from NE out of it. So I think we actually got Ford out of it.
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We got Ford with the 4th from Jacksonville for Morrison.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Houston’s been moved inside several times in passing situations with Wimbley in a 3 point stance.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
you think that the Pats will try to establish the run instead of do what they do best (Brady to Welker, Branch & Gronkowski) you’re sadly mistaken.
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He knows Bills ran for over 300 yards on us, gotta coninue to rotate big john in the lineup
September 30th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Houston is legit but not strong enough to play dt(I know he played that in college)
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Houston has been more effective when playing DT this year then has playing DE.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Actually, I looked it up and that was the pick that was traded for Wimbley.
Still a win for Al Davis in trading vs. Belicheck.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
VittorioTafur @doubledee229 as Hue says, “Next man up” — that’s Moss at DE, Giordano at S, the rookies at CB and Gordon at FB for a few plays
5 minutes ago
September 30th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
bcz24 Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
92.LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RRS, we traded down with NE before getting Houston with that 2nd. Got an extra pick from NE out of it. So I think we actually got Ford out of it.
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We got Ford with the 4th from Jacksonville for Morrison.
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Gotcha. We got rid of the 3rd from NE for Wimbley, than used our 3rd on Veldheer. We traded down in the second and got the pick we used on Campbell. The 4th we got from JAX was Ford.
So, from NE, we got Wimbley and Campbell.
I think.
LOL.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
He knows Bills ran for over 300 yards on us, gotta coninue to rotate big john in the lineup
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217 actually. You don’t watch the pats much if you think they care what others do. They wont be running the ball. They had a 2 score lead in Miami and were STILL throwing the ball around.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Is it just me or has Bryant been wearing a cast since the beginning of LAST year?
September 30th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Think Bryant just like clubbing people.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Chimdi Checkwa balled out against the jest…
He is hard…
September 30th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Is it just me or has Bryant been wearing a cast since the beginning of LAST year?
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He didnt have it on against the Jets.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Always liked Chimdi at the OSU.
Tough guy, team leader, fast and played lots of man cov.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Ford was selected with the 4th round pick we got from Jacksonville for Kirk Morrison. Talk about a fleecing.
September 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
VittorioTafur When asked about Chekwa or Van Dyke starting in place of CB Chris Johnson, Hue Jackson said he will decide over an Irish Coffee tonight
13 minutes ago
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
I swear he did.
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DeuceDeuce Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Is it just me or has Bryant been wearing a cast since the beginning of LAST year?
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He didnt have it on against the Jets.
September 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHd1Rid9J04&feature=related
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I love this, I really got to make it to the O for a game. F’k Sanchez
September 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
We traded our second pick with Tampa then traded it w/ Ne then picked up Houston and Goethe.l
September 30th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
It hasn’t been a great month for Seahawks line coach Tom Cable.
He’s watched his old team in Oakland look better without him, especially on the offensive line. He’s watched his new team in Seattle rank near the bottom in nearly every noteworthy offensive stat.
PFT
September 30th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
I don’t trust Belicheat. I guess he has opened up to the media because NFL Network did a documentary about him and he probably was thrilled them not mentioning anything about him cheating in 2008. For all we know, Belicheat could still be cheating. In my opinion, Belicheat is very arrogant. Our Raiders really, really need to defeat the Patriots come Sunday evening. I also wish ESPN’s Trey Wingo would stop worshiping the Pats…sometimes I think Wingo has a man crush on Tom Brady. Just saying
September 30th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
New England got NOTHING out of Derrick Burgess, and the Raiders got . . . LaMarr Houston.
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DJ,
perhaps I’m missing some draft day trades or something, but Houston was a 2nd rounder
we got two 3rd’s for Burgess
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I thought it was a 3rd and 5th for Burgess?
September 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
If you’re looking for a formula to slow down Brady and company, the best place to start is by looking at what has worked in the playoffs.
You’d want to look at their SB loss to the Giants, demolition at home vs the Ravens, and last year’s loss to the Jets.
Then you’d want to consider which elements of those approaches can be implemented effectively with our current personnel. You’d also want to consider how their offense has evolved into a more TE oriented approach.
I’d say the Raiders have a better offense at this point in time than any of the 3 aforementioned teams that took the Patsies out.
The Raider defense is another story entirely.
I believe the Jets threw a lot of zone at Brady and actually confused and rattled him. Not sure that’s an approach that would work with our personnel.
The Ravens were physically dominating and used a punishing LMclain to annihilate them. You know we’ll want to pound the rock and try to bring some pain on D.
The Giants used an extremely athletic and versatile DLine to harry Brady. He’s far from Superman when he’s forced to move his feet and unable to step up into a pocket. It’s essential to hit him a few times early and make him as uncomfortable as possible. We’ve got the horses to do this and we’ve got the DLine coach that knows how to get the job done.
Brady is so hard to stop not only because of his accuracy but also because of his smarts. The guy is one of the best at pre-snap reads. It’s very hard to out scheme him on defense simply because he’s so good at sitting in the gun and determining what he’s looking at and where he wants to go. With our deficiencies in zone and inability to conceal or time blitzes very well, don’t want to get into a chess match with Brady anyway.
This one is going to be mainly on the DLine. Hit Tommy boy a few times and stay in his face all day. The formula is there. If we get pressure up front, we can outscore these guys.
September 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
37-34 Raiders.
Bet AD is mad Bellecheat confirmed that he is the Def. Coord.
September 30th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Davis has used the same schemes for decades.
That’s why we have s#cked for decades.
We went zone in the second half on Sunday and won.
Don’t tell Al!
September 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Bilicheat. No me gusta….
September 30th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
OK all,I admit I am MR!!!
September 30th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
# DMAC Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I know MR hasn’t played or practiced at all, but we could really use him this week end to help contain us fools. Wonder how much press MR will get?
September 30th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am
RAIDERS–3 CHEATRIOTS–27
September 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
What the hell is Bellechek talking about??? Hall of Fame Raiders Coach John Madden was the DC at San Diego State from 1964-1966. He also coached linebackers for the Raiders as an assistant under John Rauch. Also seems to me Bellechek is lobbing a few scuds at any DC who has worked for the Raiders. The Raiders rushed for 200 yards on 1st and 2nd down against the Jets. The Patriots are nowhere near as capable of stopping the run as the Jets. My guess is that both teams will try to run the ball. The Raiders will do it succesfully to keep Brady off the field, and Bellechek will attempt do so to keep his defense off the field. This is gonna be a good game with plenty of big plays. The Patriots are going to get steamrolled by the Raiders this weekend.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
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Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
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October 1st, 2011 at 8:09 am
Raiders 38 Patriots 28
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