Oakland Raiders live chat here Tuesday at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, October 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A lot to go over after the Raiders’ loss to New England on Sunday and the Houston game coming up this week, so join our live chat on Tuesday at noon PDT.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Mcfadden, Hue could pull some sweet Bill Belichick stuff.
reporter: “Hue, why is DHB starting ahead of Moore??”
Hue: “Just the way it is.”
reporter” “Just the way WHAT is?”
Hue: “It. Next question.”
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Dhb should not be starting ahead of d. moore. fishy…
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
All of you should ease up on Hue in regards to the D.
The guy has ZERO say in defensive matters. NO SAY in defensive players signed or not. NO SAY in defensive coordinator brought in. NO SAY in defensive philosophy and scheme.
Judge Hue on how the offense runs. So far, he has an “A” grade the last two seasons. Now get him a real QB and a D-coordinator.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
DHB plays because he makes more money than the rest.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
We were 8-8 last year and we are 2-2 this year. Nothing new to me. We are who we are. Not the worst in the league and not the best either.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
The d is on bresh, and his d qb mcclain…
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Mcclain has proven to be in over his head at mlb
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
lol. Really, Alex. What should Hue do? Have a meeting with the defense and tell them to start tackling? I don’t think Hue’s responsible for one single player being on that defense. Al put that defense together, he should go down there and yell at them.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
mmclain is not a leader of men. he has zero fire and intensity. No way should he be the qb of the D.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Exactly. And Thec, even Chuck B. has very limited say in the defense. He’s using more zone than normal, but he has no say in personnel, and may not have more than one year to implement and practice that zone to success.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
mcclain in no diffrent than jruss…
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Also, I’d even ease up on McClain. The guy is playing MLB behind two pass-rushing DTs. What exactly do you expect?
You were disappointed in EVERY MLB that’s been here since the Sam Adams, John Parrella, Ted Washington middle-cloggers.
The DTs make the MLB! Even Ray Lewis was average for a year or two before they brought in Ngata to keep people off him.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
We will have a new dco next year. Bresh wont make it with this guy manning the mlb spot. He is in way over his head.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I can’t think of any particular play yesterday where the defense made a mistake as costly as Campbell’s pick in the end zone.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Most top MLBs have an absolute stud DT clogging the middle.
Did you guys watch HOW OFTEN Ray Lewis made his way to the ball-carrier last night UNTOUCHED?
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
if you have no say so on what goes on with your D. how can you stand there and be a fucn man, accept that schyt, and continue to refer to AL as coach and butter his bread. get off your fucn knees, bench d.h.b. fine your m.l.b. for being a fat ass and fire chuck b. and if your asss gets fired so be it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
I’m outta here. Will repeat the most important Raider news once again, in the hopes that enough people eventually understand it and stop buying Raider stuff to force a change:
The NFL is a QB and D-Coordinator league. Look at the consistent playoff teams.
Yet Al undervalues and mismanages both of those positions.
Our best QB the last 20 years was a guy Al would NEVER bring in on his own.
It’ll be a while.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
A7, good point bruh on the DT issue. So e of us semis are split however, i am inclined to beleive it is the personnel up front.
The thing with bosworth is that he has no fire ans doesnt attack the ball ala pwillis.
Ask yourself a question, who does he remind you of?
Ask yourself whefe does he rank amonst current mlbs?
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Romac looks no better than kirk did the last few years. instead were stuck paying this fat fuc top pick money. by the way kirk never once looked like a fat out shape turd running around out there.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Roger that, Alex. I won’t spend a dime on this team until Al is gone. Made that decision years ago. Hope you check in on occasion.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Big Pep,
you do know NFL coaches get paid well, right? Hue knows what he’s doing. Keep Al happy, do the best he can, and await the big paycheck coming from ANOTHER TEAM in a few years.
Surviving Al is a BIG deal around the NFL, especially if you have any modicum of success. Got Kiffin paid big-time, Cable landed a job immediately after being let go, so Hue will get a monster one.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Just meant outta here for the night
Thec, it’s just hard to judge RoMac with 4 pass rushers in front of him.
That’s what our D-Line is, four pass-rushers told to simply get upfield and pressure the pocket, leaving our poor LBers to fend off any multiple blockers that want to get through.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Pep, we could have kept kirk. Would have saved a ton of cash.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Alex7, yeah i get the whole thing. just pissed at this fool who talks big talk and doesnt back it up.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Good thing, Alex. I enjoy your comments. You’re one of the few that keeps it real around here.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
only problem in oakland is that when you save money, we end up over paying kickers and punters and anybody who cares more about making money instead of winning.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
53.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
mcclain is the second coming of jruss…
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Ouch man! You’re really rippin into him today. Deservedly so…
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
If mcclain showed some fire and that he could lead men, i would be ok with him. He came from a 3-4 scheme. He is at best a wlb in a 3-4. No way he should be mike
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
I have been holding my peace on bosworth, its time to call him for what he is. I apologize Carl, i domt like going in on our guys however, this guy is the qb of the D.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Lewis is a rare breed. Not too many can be compared to him.
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15.alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Most top MLBs have an absolute stud DT clogging the middle.
Did you guys watch HOW OFTEN Ray Lewis made his way to the ball-carrier last night UNTOUCHED?
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
300-plus yards not always great for Campell
October, 3, 2011
By Bill Williamson
In the NFL, more passing yardage doesn’t always result in ultimate team success.
It is becoming more evident that is the case in Oakland. The Raiders don’t necessarily need quarterback Jason Campbell to throw wildly. The Raiders are a run-first outfit. They are darn good one, in fact. Oakland had the No. 2 ranked run offense last season and they are leading the NFL in rushing with a 178.8 yard per game average this season.
Oakland’s offense is at its best when the run dominates. The Raiders couldn’t get its run game completely going Sunday against New England because they had to rely on the pass when they fell behind by 18 in the second half in an eventual 31-19 loss. The Raiders had 160 yards rushing on 27 attempts Sunday.
Campbell, though, threw for 344 yards on 25-of-39 passing. It was the most yardage Campbell has thrown for in 17 games as a Raider. It is another example that the Raiders have been better served when Campbell’s passing yardage is lower.
In Oakland’s other loss this season, in Week 2 at Buffalo, Campbell tossed for 323 yards. In Oakland’s two wins this season, Campbell has passed for a total of 261 yards. In those two games, Oakland has run for a total of 424 yards.
Campbell threw for more than 300 yards in games twice last season. The Raiders were 1-1 in those games. It’s clear the Oakland offense is at its best when the run game dominates and Campbell plays efficiently.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Live chat <~~~~~~ lame
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Kawakami:
Jason Campbell got his chance to duel Tom Brady, and to carry the Raiders on his shoulders Sunday.
Campbell failed, the Raiders lost, and there is no soft or consoling way to put that, for Campbell or the Raiders.
Is it fair to measure Campbell against the best quarterback in the league, when so many other factors led to the Patriots’ 31-19 victory over the Raiders at o.co Coliseum?
Maybe not so fair. So it goes.
At its most elemental point, this game was about the quarterbacks—Brady held New England together, and Campbell helped break the Raiders apart.
The Raiders could have won if Campbell had played better, and have to wonder if Campbell is the QB who can lead them into the playoffs or beyond.
The Patriots won because Brady played the way he always plays.
Not fair. But true.
“I started out fast, came out ready to play,” Campbell said calmly, standing in front of his locker after the game. “Unfortunately, I made a bone-headed mistake on the interception.
“That cost us. That’s something I don’t usually do. From that point on, I think it kind of stemmed the momentum…
“It changes the whole game, it changes the whole mindset.”
He’s right. And instead of having a shot to go 3-1 and join the AFC elite, the Raiders fell to 2-2, back in the muddle again.
There’s no question that the Raiders have a lot of things working right for them, from tailback Darren McFadden to their young receivers to their physical defensive line.
But how far can they go if their quarterback goes haywire every now and again at the most crucial times?
On Sunday, we saw exactly how far: Deep into the first half, until the mistake is made.
The “bone-headed play” came late in the second quarter, when the Raiders were ready to score a touchdown that would’ve put them back ahead of New England in a see-saw tilt.
On second-and-goal from the six-yard line, Campbell had plenty of time, saw nobody, moved around, then was ready to fire the ball safely out of play.
But when Campbell saw receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey flashing along the back of the end zone, the QB flinched in the middle of his throw, which caused it to flutter directly to New England safety Patrick Chung for a huge interception.
From there, Brady immediately raced New England downfield for a field goal to put New England ahead, 17-10, going into halftime. The Raiders never reversed the momentum from there.
All by itself, the Campbell interception didn’t decide the game. But it did change everything.
“I think he played OK,” Jackson said of Campbell, who threw for 344 yards on the day. “He did some good things. But there’s some things he wishes he could have had back, I think we all know that.”
Campbell threw another interception in the second half–a dump-off right into the arms of defensive tackle Vince Wilfork–and ended up with a mediocre 79.4 passer rating.
Flat out: Campbell wasn’t good enough in this game.
Nobody expected Campbell to out-play Brady. But, with New England’s defense committing to stop McFadden, Campbell had to at least be efficient in this game.
He didn’t have to match Brady pass for pass. But Campbell had to come close, which did not happen.
“Their good football players played great,” Jackson said. “Tom Brady (and) Wes Welker played well, and that’s what you’ve got to do.
“We have to rise up. When we get to the point where we’re going to get–and we’ll get there–then our great players will play very good, very consistent throughout the whole game.”
Obviously, this was an extreme case for Campbell, who played well in the first three games of the season.
Plus, the Raiders don’t have another option at QB, anyway. That’s the way they’ve set this up.
They’ve got enough firepower elsewhere to win a lot of games, as they won last Sunday against the Jets. But when it comes to the biggest ones, it will be on Campbell.
He can throw the right pass 20 times in a row. But the wrong pass, at the wrong time, ruins everything.
“We felt like we’re a really good offense, we could match (the Patriots) if it came to that, we could go point for point with them,” Campbell said. “One mistake like that (end zone interception) kind of throws you out of it.”
He can’t throw that interception. He can’t. But he did. That doesn’t make Campbell a bad QB.
Just not good enough, though.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Big Pep,
you do know NFL coaches get paid well, right? Hue knows what he’s doing. Keep Al happy, do the best he can, and await the big paycheck coming from ANOTHER TEAM in a few years.
Surviving Al is a BIG deal around the NFL, especially if you have any modicum
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you mean the Al Davis that our drafted everyone the last two offseasons? The same Al that hired Hue as a head coach after the 9ers said no thanks? When we’re in the playoffs instead of being happy it’ll eat you up inside to be wrong and I’ll be here laughing at you
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Says something about our ability to run the ball when 160 yards on 25 carries (6.4 ypc) is ‘unable to get it going’… What we ‘cant get it going’ unless we are over 200?
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
I am about to rewatch the game. Want a full tally of all the gaffs, blunders, misques, blown assigments from the bosworth.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
when your punter has been the best player on your team for 7 fucn years. all that says is that your O has sucd that long. when your safties have 100+ tackles during that same span all that says is that your D is just as bad.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders MLB McClain on missed tackles vs. Pats: “I tackled pretty well. I haven’t watched the film to see how everybody else tackled.”
47 minutes ago
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I been a big Romac supporter but this is simply inexcusable. Hue should sit him for a week for this. Hue said 2 weeks ago this sh!t would never happen again, but here it is. Romac, that one comment officially put you on my sh!tlist.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
36.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
I am about to rewatch the game. Want a full tally of all the gaffs, blunders, misques, blown assigments from the bosworth.
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I’m looking forward to your report!
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I dvr’ed the game so I could review it, but when I got home I was already pissed, and then I found out my dvr cut it off with like 6 minutes to go in the 4th so I deleted it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Bosworth doesnt include his slow as blitzes, is inabilty to shed, runs neing ripped right
in front of him, his whiffs, all the time he is out of position.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
I am done, time to go watch film. Glad hank williams is off moday might footnall he sucs.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Hank can take his rowdy friends with him. lol.
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
We gonna be fine yall. Some way we gonna pull through this. Big statement game 10am in Houston. The Mighty Raider Dell will bring his Raider spirit to the venue. We pull off upset over another playoff contending team
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
F()ck romac sounds like another Jamarcus now
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Thec07 I’ve given RoMac a lot of space to improve but yesterdays performance angered me. H is playing too heavy and gets winded too fast. He literally jogs at times there’s no fire in that kid NONE AT ALL. He is talented but he looks like doesn’t care. On one stretch play the back ran in the safeties gap but RoMac had an angle on him and didn’t try to hit him he jsut basically said ‘you get ‘em I’m tired’.
THis is not the MLB I saw at Bama this kid looks like he got his money and he’s cool. I hope I’m wrong and there’s something wrong but we definitely need to get a kid in here who wants it.
Goethel going down is killing us if he were healthy we would have an option but as it stands we have to live with him and hope he starts putting in the effort because he’s hurting this team. He doesn’t oplay the run worth crap but he’ll cover it’s the craziest thing I’ve even seen from a MLB normally they wont cover this guy plays the pass well but he’s lazy vs the run.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
We aint gonna be fine with a QB that throws a ball in the end zone where 3 defenders and no receivers are.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
McClain is trippin…..Dont like it at all but eventually the whip will get cracked on that….those DTs are pitiful. Biggest problem with defense
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
I was at the game yesterday and I couldn’t believe it when the officials picked up the flag and over ruled the P.I. penelty after they had alread marked the ball first and goal at the two, and said that the players had just gotten the feet tangled. I couldn’t believe they had reversed the call when I was at the stadium, but I just watched it on my dvr, and I see that it absolutely was pass interferrance. That was unbelieveable
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Blah MR….it was a very bad play from coaching to the personnel. DHB shouldnt have been on the field
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
tj
At first I thought maybe what Hue was saying had some credence when he said that maybe some guys are out of position and I thought maybe Romac has to adjust because of that and he then looks out of position.
BUT
After watching the game again and recalling the Buffalo game the whiffing on tackles is unacceptable.
Tackling is mental you have to want to tackle someone more than technique you have to want to hit someone hard and bring them down to the ground. I haven’t seen that in Romac this year.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Romac is playing selfish. He is one-shoulder diving at people trying to get the highlight reel hit instead of wrapping and bringing the guy down. Worse than that, others are following his lead. Same problem as last time with Bres, #1 problem on this defense is poor tackling. It is even worse than the penalties or the scheme.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Lol of course you could believe it Koolaid….I knew they were doing it. We gotta be able to get job done still
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Patriots would have won no matter what, and that PI no-call pretty much proves that, doesn’t it? I didn’t expect us to win this game. But Jason’s interception in the end zone is inexcusable. Because even in an unwinnable game, it’s a characteristic that’s likely to haunt us again. there was no receiver in site. Just 3 patriots. And even if he was throwing the ball away, that’s still no excuse. Number one rule of quarterbacking is to put the ball where only your receiver can get it. You throw that sucker into the 3rd deck. If your receiver doesn’t get it, nobody does. Every excuse I’ve heard for that throw is unacceptable.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Now, the Al Davis enablers are throwing RoMac under the bus, so predictable. As if the Raiders haven’t had the same defensive problems for the last 10 years.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I’m also on board, about not blaming hue about our defense. He wanted to hire that coach from the jets. But was refused permissions by the jets to interview him. So chuck was plan B. I believe next season hue will ne able to get who he wants, Davis is getting to old to meddle, if he wants to win soon he needs to give complete control to hue. And what’s up wit all this hate on dhbeast, he had a good game yesterday. Could it be that maybe Moore wasn’t open that much, I know he started the game, not exactly sure how much snaps he got, but dam what does that man got to do have a 220 yard game, he even had a catch on that long bomb that many of us thought he could never make including myself.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
SnB MY BROTHER….you told the truth. The defense is a mess and will be as long as that starting unit stays the same. No starter thats a run stuffer and not an elite pass rusher on the roster. Yikes! At some ppoint spots will be yanked from players
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Defense did not lose this game. You hold brady to sixteen completions and 200 somethin yds passing ur doing ur job. Offense kilked us this game you just cant have turnovers. Look at when tose two picks happened in crucial drives when we moved right up the field and imo should of gotten td’s. Im
not a cambell hater this yr but common man thuse where pathetic. This team is right there i can fill it chargers look the worst ive seen them in yrs. Its are division to win or lose. They have to stop the stupid penaltys and just bad mistakes thats it i guess you could say its that simple but with these guys its not. I have faith its a very young football team with tons of talent. Only thing really really negative thing i can say is the D cordinator has got to go.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Kell, I noticed everyone coming in here and blaming RoMac, at right about the same time. I wonder if these guys do work for the team. How funny. Do the Raiders really care about what’s said in blog comments sections? Try concentrating on building a winning team, guys. Leave the blog wars to the fans.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
da trinity Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Davis is getting to old to meddle
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He was too old to meddle 20 years ago!
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Who in here expected our D to all of a sudden turn into a top 10 D overnight? Not me…I don’t think we ever will! I just hope that they wake the F up and relearn gap assignments, how to FN tackle the guy with the ball and learn how to get off the FN field on ANY 3rd down situations! Until then, they will always be the weakness! Oh, and slap RoMac for even considering saying that!!!
On to Houston!
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Kell…I mean he is 6′4 260 and is half assing out there. Has nothing to do enabling Al. I admit when an Al guy sucks…dhb ring a bell?
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Most top MLBs have an absolute stud DT clogging the middle.
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Which top DT plays in front of Urlacher?
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Actually MR THE romac heat is justified. He has stunk all four games. Do you not deny that?
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Now, the Al Davis enablers are throwing RoMac under the bus, so predictable. As if the Raiders haven’t had the same defensive problems for the last 10 years.
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haha thank you took the words right out of my mouth. People on here are uo and down on players. They have loved cambell this whole yr until this sunday. Now all of a sudden he’s got to go he’s crap. Romac has screwed up some plays here and there but he is still young. Who will people hate on next week i wonder.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
We’re blaming him for the way he played not for the game numbnuts. He’s not playing well which hurts the team. It’s always a TEAM loss but RoMac is way too talented to play like he is he has to step up and get better.
I’ll never blame on eplayer for a loss because that just doesn’t make sense but when a guys is loafing it’s easy to see.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Brien, the RoMac heat is not justified. And the timing of it is just hilarious. If Gradkowski had thrown that pick in the end zone yesterday, he would be getting hammered in here today. Instead it’s a middle linebacker for making poor decisions? Do you realize NOBODY outside of Raider fans is blaming Romac for yesterday’s loss? That’s the litmus test I use on your guys’ b.s. When it’s just you guys spouting it, I know it’s nonsense.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
My boy Hendu didnt play well but Kelly has to sit soon. He is dogging it and has been for years. He does nothing ever
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Corrente and his crew are the biggest frauds in the NFL…
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I also believe our secondary was that bad yesterday, there were times when Brady literally had all day to throw. It’s like the d- line quit trying to get Brady, there was even a play were .2 players were in his face and started chopping there feet with there hand up trying to deflect the pass. One of them should have just attacked him. U let Brady chill in the pockets he rips u a new one
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 pm
*wasn’t
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Campbell has done a good job this year, with the exception of yesterday, of protecting the ball. Hopefully he won’t have another game where he makes that kind of bonehead mistake.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Hello MR…and how are you friend. See your feeling better now that the Pats won. You now can talk and address me lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
the INT in the red zone is totally unacceptable…
JC CANNOT force that throw to DHB even if he continues across the backline of the endzone…
just a HORRIBLE decision, and a game changer…
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
INTERESTING READING LAST MONDAYS BLOG AND 2DAYS BLOG..WHAT A DIFFERENCE A WEEK MAKES HUH…
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Look guys…everything will be fine! 4 games in, is not time to go into panic mode! 4 games in, with arguably 3 tough teams to beat in a row, and we came out of there 2-2! Many thought we will go 1-3 or even 0-4. Let’s see what happens in Houston!
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
We’re blaming him for the way he played not for the game numbnuts. He’s not playing well which hurts the team. It’s always a TEAM loss but RoMac is way too talented to play like he is he has to step up and get better.
I’ll never blame on eplayer for a loss because that just doesn’t make sense but when a guys is loafing it’s easy to see.
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numbnuts. Lol ok you got me. I dont care for half the amature analysis in here. Ive watched every game atleast twice. Believe me romac is the least of this teams worries there theres my amature analysis for you. Man you people crack me up.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Haha MR BACK to grad nonsense. No one blamed him for the lost…at least I didnt. But he has been bad this season. Everyone has a part for that defensive failure. All levels played bad
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
B. TK played better than Big Sey yesterday we just didn’t fill gaps no one was on RoMac he had free riegn to flow and go and he jsut didn’t. Truth be told TK and Des Bryant were our best Dlineman IMO. Moss was good as well but we couldn’t take Brady down he just kept escaping sometimes we had him deadto right and still missed.
I would love to play the Pat’s again when we get better we helped them beat us with the 2 picks and penalties we spotted them 14 points.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
It was a game changer, along with the non PI call and the Seymore penelty when the Pats opening drive was probable going to be stopped, but that game is over with and The Raiders can play with anybody. They just can’t kill themselves with mistakes and win against good teams.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
DIRT seriously
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Jmcclain You souldn’t react to stuff that’s not meant for you taht was meant for KK….
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
BHP stop….no one on that defense did schit. It was awful to see
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
LOL….I knew right when JC thew that INT to Chung, the blog would have errupted…
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
WAS GREAT TALKING 2 U YESTERDAY METHOD.HOPE WE CAN MEET UP AGAIN.MAYBE CLEVELAND
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
jmcclain Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
We’re blaming him for the way he played not for the game numbnuts. He’s not playing well which hurts the team. It’s always a TEAM loss but RoMac is way too talented to play like he is he has to step up and get better.
I’ll never blame on eplayer for a loss because that just doesn’t make sense but when a guys is loafing it’s easy to see.
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numbnuts. Lol ok you got me. I dont care for half the amature analysis in here. Ive watched every game atleast twice. Believe me romac is the least of this teams worries there theres my amature analysis for you. Man you people crack me up.
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McClain is a problem. Believe me. Is this last loss on him? No. Will he get better? He better.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Bingo Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
DHB plays because he makes more money than the rest.
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It won’t be that way next year after the guaranteed $’s are gone. He’ll have to renegotiate his salary or get traded or cut. I say he will gladly renegotiate. He should not be our #1 WR. More likely he’s the #5 or #6 WR based on performance.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Koolaid….we surely can play with the Pats but the defensive effort cant keeping giving up ass like this. They better come out an angry focused bunch in Houston.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm
KK I guess Mr d is supposed to pay him and play for him too he’s supposed to go down and make tackles for him to I guess. What’s been going on for 8 years is EXACTLY why he was drafted #8 overall and given a ton of money what else he Mr D supposed to do? he went and got Seymour and drafted a MLB to boot that’s why they get the big bucks STOP THE DAMN RUN!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RoMac was making gestures early o nthat the heat was getting to him, lifting his jersey fanning himself, this was in the first qtr…not a good sign, for a D that couldn’t get off the field…
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Aw DIRT my pleasure. Wish we got the W! But hey a win vs Houston can make the LOT pretty cool in two weeks
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
The only problem I have with Campbell’s end zone INT is what he said afterwards.
He said it kind of “stemmed the momentum”, or words to that effect.
Guys make boneheaded plays sometimes. It happens. The great ones inspire their teams to move past it and keep pushing, and Campbell’s comments don’t lead me to believe that he tried to do that.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Brien, when are the Raiders going to get serious about just winning a Super Bowl, and stop with all of the games, all of the politics, all of the spinning, all of the grudges, all of the treachery? When? At what point does Al just say, “I’m hiring a GM, and getting my fans another Lombardi before I die?”
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Raider Defensive Coordinators have come & gone. Raider Middle Linebackers have come & gone. Raider Head Coaches never hire their own Defensive Coordinators.
The Raiders, still do not tackle well, or stop the run. This has been going on long before Rolando McClain.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
B@UCE…That happens, we can actually sell out a Cleveland game! I hope so, because the lot was crowded but not as rowdy as we all have seen it!
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Al should have a meeting with Ron Wolf, John Madden, and Tom Flores, his 3 most successful sidekicks through the years, and the 4 of them should agree on a GM that’s perfect for the Raiders. And that’s it. Al should retire from football operations. Start preparing his estate for a successor after he passes on. And then smell the roses, watch the Raiders finally bring home that 4th Lombardi, and be right there for the celebration when they do, considering he’s signing the checks.
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:59 pm
When our team is at the bottom of the league AGAIN against the run, and our Middle Linebacker’s only bright spot so far is against the pass, there is a problem there.
McClain as the number 8 pick right now is playing defense almost as bad as DHB being the number 7 pick is playing on offense.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Its the biggest tragedy DHB is starting in 2011
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
BHP stop….no one on that defense did schit. It was awful to see
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The defense did not play that poorly in the lst half. In fact the pass defense played pretty well considering they had a bunch of rookies and were going up against the number one passing O in the league. Looks like the other team made adjustments at half that we could not counter.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Team loss yesterday. Mistakes on offense, poor tackling, poor coverage.
Yet again, we see the results of the defensive line playing without gap discipline trying to get to the QB while the LBs are in man coverage behind. No other team uses their LBs in man coverage more than the Raiders. It’s the main reason that draw plays, screens, and short slant passes to TEs are constantly a problem for the Raiders. They’ll never stop the run or the big play consistently, unless somehow they manage to fill every position along their front seven with some sort of physical freak of nature who can cover WRs, shed OGs, AND rush the passer proficiently. The defense is still based around winning individual matchups, but you can’t expect to do that on every snap. Good offenses can quickly make a defense pay when just one mistake by one player almost always results in a big play.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
lol. Love this. No mention of Campbell’s pick in the end zone. Almost as if it didn’t even happen. Imagine if Gradkowski throws that same pick yesterday. My goodness.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Its the biggest tragedy DHB is starting in 2011
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Bri, I don’t know what you want that kid to do. He had over a 100 yards receiving and his lst three receptions were big plays that converted third downs. This kid is certainly getting better. What do you want him to do?
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Guys, this defense is NOT a rookie group. Here’s the problem in a nutshell.
Your elite guys play like “guys”
We always knew that Seymour and Kelly couldn’t stop the run…but they don’t even get meaningful pass rush. Those two players in particular are paid a ton of cash, Seymour was the highest paid defensive player at the start of the year…and TK the highest paid DT when he signed his extension..and they ARE NOT PRODUCING ANYTHING!….they are disappearing for entire quarters/halves and they were a no show all day yesterday
You can’t win without any defense and no secondary can be expected to produce if the opposing QB has all day….never mind their inability to keep our delicate linebackers clean…THEY ARE NOT DOING IT!
You cannot win giving up 30 points a game
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Al should have a meeting with Ron Wolf, John Madden, and Tom Flores, his 3 most successful sidekicks through the years, and the 4 of them should agree on a GM that’s perfect for the Raiders. And that’s it. Al should retire from football operations. Start preparing his estate for a successor after he passes on. And then smell the roses, watch the Raiders finally bring home that 4th Lombardi, and be right there for the celebration when they do, considering he’s signing the checks.
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We have 3 championships and have been in 5 all with Al as the GM. There are numerous teams that have worse records than us and all have GM’s.
So dead that argument already. The Raiders are trying different looks on offense and defense. The players have to make the plays, bottom line.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
lol. Love this. No mention of Campbell’s pick in the end zone. Almost as if it didn’t even happen. Imagine if Gradkowski throws that same pick yesterday. My goodness.
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Actually on that play the NE DB grabs and throws DHB out of bounds on the endline. No call.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Also Mr. Wimbley.
You all know he is paid in the same class as those Pittsburg backers and Demarcus Ware?
Do you EVER hear this guys name more than once in a game? He doesn’t even get pressure.
He is being paid to accumulate sacks and pressures.
He ain’t doing jack……paid to be like Ware…yet he produces like Robert Thomas
Guys have to man up….I know we heap a lot of blame on Al Davis…and a lot of it well deserved…but at some point your elite players have gotta come through
They are not consistent…and coming through for 1 play or 1 drive does not make a superstar
Talk is cheap. Its cheap in my job/life and I am sure as hell sure its cheap in a results oriented environment like the NFL!
Man up or STFU
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
I like the oline but Im not big on Cooper Carlisle from a run block perspective. It looks way better than I could imagine
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Thec07 I’ve given RoMac a lot of space to improve but yesterdays performance angered me. H is playing too heavy and gets winded too fast. He literally jogs at times there’s no fire in that kid NONE AT ALL. He is talented but he looks like doesn’t care. On one stretch play the back ran in the safeties gap but RoMac had an angle on him and didn’t try to hit him he jsut basically said ‘you get ‘em I’m tired’.
THis is not the MLB I saw at Bama this kid looks like he got his money and he’s cool. I hope I’m wrong and there’s something wrong but we definitely need to get a kid in here who wants it.
Goethel going down is killing us if he were healthy we would have an option but as it stands we have to live with him and hope he starts putting in the effort because he’s hurting this team. He doesn’t oplay the run worth crap but he’ll cover it’s the craziest thing I’ve even seen from a MLB normally they wont cover this guy plays the pass well but he’s lazy vs the run.
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Now, more & more people are seeing what some of us have complained about these last couple of weeks. Someone really needs to light a fire under his a$$. He didn’t really do squat yesterday. It was SOS – same old schit. I would have been happy if he just did one thing good yesterday. Breshnahan should have had him shadow Welker on every play and literally beat the crap out of him as he tried to cross the LOS. That would have gone a long way to defeat Brady’s success. If he had done that we probably wouldn’t have even seen Welker play in the 2nd half. Welker is not a big guy so beating him liberally would have had the effect we were looking for.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Armchair,I think DHB gets THIS year and Rolando gets next year as well,after that ,good bye! And get a DC that hasnt coached D in the ufl,IMO
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
koolaid I agree man….looking at that game we helped the Pat’s beat us and they obliged. They are way too good to hand them 10 points off penalties and T/O’s you do that you deserve to lose and we did.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Thec07,
I take it the Bosworth reference is your new nickname for the RoMac experiment? Nice!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
I’m gonna keep this going….Interesting, to say the least.
Penalties and Calls by Officials that have ONLY or RARELY applied to any other teams but somehow pop up during Raider Games:
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up the flag and overturn an obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
-that illegal forward pass in San Diego where the receiver caught the ball, went untouched then spiked the ball that Asomugha recovered…and illegal forward pass?
-The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.
-The non-call when Hines Ward reached out and grabbed CJ37’s facemask and ripped his head down right in front of the official so he could run by and catch a TD (I think last year).
-non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon?
-The Chris Johnson going to a knee to thank god penality…
-Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????
- And no True Silver & Black Blooded Raider can ever forget..The Immaculate Reception!
Over 40 years of schytty officiating as specifically pertains to the Raiders! And counting!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 pm
As for the pick in the end zone. I’ve looked at the replay an DHB is trying to run a crossing route out of bounds and gives up on it
JC isn’t going to throw him under the bus…but my guess is that awful a throw had something to do with that.
Make no mistake, it was an unacceptable throw. JC knows he’s gotta get it done and he’s accountable for the wins. I am sure he sees Ryan Fitzpatrick getting a new contract offer while he is fighting for his life.
However, the team has to give him HELP!
Tell the freekn head coach to run the DAMN ball inside the 5 yard line.
Hue pulled that shhhh last year with some cute playcalling.
This is a run 1st offense..I’ve been saying that from day 1…the receivers, despite some flashes ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH YET TO JUST TOSS THE ROCK Patriots or Packers style.
Hue, DHB and JC jacked that up and the game went along with it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 pm
But I’ll tell ya what.
If this team can’t recover from 1 turnover, be it a fumble in the 3rd QTR or a pick….then you might as well fold the tent up now.
The defense has to stop somebody
That VETERAN group has to stop somebody
That HIGHLY PAID group has to stop somebody
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Actually on that play the NE DB grabs and throws DHB out of bounds on the endline. No call.
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Seymour Bush Very astute ob. my man DHB was interferred with on that JC endzone pick and the ref just ignored it. DHB had the DB beat hands down and he pushed him out of bounds making him ineligible to catch the ball. So JC saw it in midstride and tried to make throwaway but it was too late……..PICK!!
It should’ve been our ball on the 1 …………..period
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:15 pm
uggh… I hate seeing those injuries.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
I have no problem with the bully thing…I also respect Al’s defensive philosophy of lining up and taking on the opponent on our terms.
But reality is that there are a lot of great players in this league and occassionally you will go up against special players.
When you face guys like Welker, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Jennings, Adrian Pederson etc…occassionally you have to bend the strategy to deal with the reality that is in front of you.
Having a 4th round rookie and a practice squad reserve have sole responsibility for Wes Welker…AND have thosre guy repeatedly fail and do NOTHING to address it when you have a stud like Routt…is arrogant and just plain STUPID
You will not win many games ingoring mismatches like that.
Fix this mess!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Guys, this defense is NOT a rookie group. Here’s the problem in a nutshell.
Your elite guys play like “guys”
We always knew that Seymour and Kelly couldn’t stop the run…but they don’t even get meaningful pass rush. Those two players in particular are paid a ton of cash, Seymour was the highest paid defensive player at the start of the year…and TK the highest paid DT when he signed his extension..and they ARE NOT PRODUCING ANYTHING!….they are disappearing for entire quarters/halves and they were a no show all day yesterday
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I am going to be honest with you, when I read stuff like this it terrifies me. This is NOT directed at you SNB but more so That idiot moron who can’t find his ass with directions and a seeing eye dog who was saying get rid of Rich Seymour this morning. All Seymour did all day yesterday was take on double and triple teams. All Day Long. He was out for a lot of the game. There is a reason for that: no one can take double and triple teams all day. The reason he does that is so players like TK, Jarvis Moss and the LB corp can go make plays. That is incredibly unselfish of that player. If you guys don’t understand that, maybe you should ask someone.
As I wrote in my breakdown long before this game, there is a reason DT’s didn’t get their hands on Brady. NE has a ton invested in their interior triangle and they run a timing system designed to negate a pass rush. That’s why Brady is at the bottom of the league at getting sacked year in and year out. This is not just luck, or that our guys didn’t “man up”. You have to do something different to thwart Brady. I broke it down, but it didn’t do it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Lol DHB GETTING PUNKED IN THE ENDZONE YOU SAY? Well well what do ya know
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm
You all have to lay of Jason Campbell. I saw an offense that for the last 4 weeks has moved the ball very well. They have moved the ball extremely well.
JC is completing passes for the most part…the offense is moving the chains….
As for yesterday, the defense has to do its part too. Make a couple of stops when its meaningful…..help out the offense and get a turnover….keep the game close.
That did not happen yesterday.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Yesterday in the live chat with Cork, I said that Seymour, the highest paid player in the team, should take the leadership role and set the tone for a team basically loaded with rooks and young players. An 11-year veteran, super bowl winner, pro-bowler, who cost the Raiders a number one draft choice, to all accounts he was the first rounder this year, etc. etc. And what has he brought to the table, last year he was selected to the pro bowl, for what? who knows? for past performances and reputation?
Must have been for that sucker punch on Roethlisberger.
OK. So he was so amped out for playing against his former team, and he didn’t hear the whistle. Ok. So why did he lay Brady down. “He put me down kind of gently,” Brady joked (Brady’s words). Why not seize the opportunity and plant him on the ground. OK, maybe he gets thrown out of the game and gets fined, but he makes a statement and sets the tone, who knows maybe he takes Brady out of the game, not that you want hurt him bad, just enough to make him start thinking about the next hit, get him out of rhythm. But, don’t just lay him down, and still get a penalty, bail the patsies out, and set the wrong tone for your defense and team. Then, not yet content to commit one stupidity, he goes and gets another personal foul on the same drive! So, if not for Seymour’s brain farts, instead of helping the patsies get a score maybe they punt, put the Raiders on a short field, and with great momentum on their side.
Let’s say as an 11-year veteran he had a case of the jitters in that first drive going up against his old team that “blindsided” him, according to Cork. OK, what happened to the rest of the game. HueJax does well to defend his players and protect them from finger-pointing, but Seymour checked out real early, he did nothing,but 3 tackles and he looked like he was dancing with the Patsies OL. The Boston Globe’s headline reads “Offensive line keeps Seymour in-check.” They toyed with him one on one, I don’t believe I noticed any double teams.
You can expect this ineptitude from the inexperienced young players like Houston and McClain, but Rich is the one getting all that cash, and Mr. Davis put a lot trust on the table on Seymour to make plays and put this young defense on his back. Don’t bail out the patsies, bail out your rookie defensive backs. Seymour needs to take charge and be accountable, enough for HueJax making excuses and taking blame for him.
Got to give it up for Chekwa and Porter, true they were taking to school by Welker, welcome to the club. Hopefully, they’ll use this schooling as a learning experience on what it’s needed to become an effective player in the league.
If the Seymour melt down wasn’t bad enough to kill your team, Campbell’s INT helped dig the dagger deeper. Once that INT happened, it was clear that maybe the better team did win, and that’s a team that could overcome mistakes and still have the wherewithal to win.
Hopefully, this loss will bring the team back to earth and reality sets in after all the hoopla that followed the Jets win. However, it won’t happen unless Seymour plays up to his salary value and expectations.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
SnB then Deion Branch is going to go off, You are damn if you do and dmaned if you don’t. We stopped their biggest weapon in Gronkowski and stopped Branch but Welker they tried to bracket. Because one man is not going to stop him so why waste your best player on him?
Sometimes you ahve to think past your own stereotype of this defense. Welker is a great player and so is Brady so they let him get his but shut down everyone else. If we score it’s a different game………period
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Bingo Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
DHB plays because he makes more money than the rest.
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No. Well, yes and no. If you are the Raiders (or Raider fans for that matter) what you REALLY want is for DHB to start being productive. The reason being is that is going to free up Denarius all the Moore (pardon the pun.) And Ford, Hagan, Boss and Dmac for that matter. As I said about Seymour, you can’t double everyone. If teams start to focus on Moore that frees up Heyward-Bey. If they focus on DHB that is going to free up DM. You want to die fast, or you want to die slow?
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
2002 Raiders were 4-4 before making a run at the title.
This team is ready for a run.
Steal one in Houston, then come home for 3 straight against losing teams… Browns, Chiefs, Broncos
6-2 and ready to make a run for the title.
I believe!!!!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Good news for the D. Andre Johnson will be out this week.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
The way it looks, the O has to be flawless to win games. D just isn’t cutting it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Wasbanned Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 pm
2002 Raiders were 4-4 before making a run at the title.
This team is ready for a run.
Steal one in Houston, then come home for 3 straight against losing teams… Browns, Chiefs, Broncos
6-2 and ready to make a run for the title.
I believe!!!!!
I say we have to win the next 5 because we cannot win the West without beating SD in their house! Let them know once again that we will sweep you guys and that boy in the basement can cry once more!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
It’s time to win @ Houston. Anybody know when was the last time the Raiders won a game there. Must be at least 20yrs. ago.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I am going to be honest with you, when I read stuff like this it terrifies me. This is NOT directed at you SNB but more so That idiot moron who can’t find his ass with directions and a seeing eye dog who was saying get rid of Rich Seymour this morning. All Seymour did all day yesterday was take on double and triple teams. All Day Long. He was out for a lot of the game. There is a reason for that: no one can take double and triple teams all day. The reason he does that is so players like TK, Jarvis Moss and the LB corp can go make plays. That is incredibly unselfish of that player. If you guys don’t understand that, maybe you should ask someone.
As I wrote in my breakdown long before this game, there is a reason DT’s didn’t get their hands on Brady. NE has a ton invested in their interior triangle and they run a timing system designed to negate a pass rush. That’s why Brady is at the bottom of the league at getting sacked year in and year out. This is not just luck, or that our guys didn’t “man up”. You have to do something different to thwart Brady. I broke it down, but it didn’t do it.
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Another very astute comment Seymour Bush, he hasn’t been sacked in 91 passes and we harrassed him more than anyone has. You have to respect what they have and get better offensively. They are the best of the best at what they do.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
The Defense has the ability to play above average. They have shown glimpses of that this season. There is no fire out there. You guys see the Ravens last night? Or just think of any top defense in the leauge. When you watch them it is night and day. Those players look and act like they want to rip peoples heads off. Always towards the ball and always high energy. The Raiders just seem like “ehhhh, time to get in this damn three point stance”. Or “uhhhh, I guess I better go jog after that ball carrier since I’m on camera”.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm
McClain has to be the biggest disappointment so far. Looks slow-mo to me.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm
No. Well, yes and no. If you are the Raiders (or Raider fans for that matter) what you REALLY want is for DHB to start being productive. The reason being is that is going to free up Denarius all the Moore (pardon the pun.) And Ford, Hagan, Boss and Dmac for that matter. As I said about Seymour, you can’t double everyone. If teams start to focus on Moore that frees up Heyward-Bey. If they focus on DHB that is going to free up DM. You want to die fast, or you want to die slow?
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Seymour Bush I’ll just leave and let you have it man you are on a roll. The rest of y’all listen up!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Definitely not the end of the world, I like this team to respond in a big way like a week ago.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
2012 NFL Draft 1st round prospects-
CB Gilmore
CB Claiborne
QB Jones
QB Griffin III
OLB Brown
MLB Te’o
MLB Kuechly
MLB Burfict
DT Ta’amu
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Priest said
“NE has a ton invested in their interior triangle and they run a timing system designed to negate a pass rush.”
What type of timing system is that? Sounds interesting.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
I want Burfict and Ta’amu talk about biulding a BULLY that will go a long way towards getting it done.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
2012 NFL Draft 1st round prospects-
CB Gilmore
CB Claiborne
QB Jones
QB Griffin III
OLB Brown
MLB Te’o
MLB Kuechly
MLB Burfict
DT Ta’amu
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Give me one of those MLB’s if they’re any good. Then move McClain to the outside.
Then give me a DT and an elite DE. We have to develop the corners we have in my opinion. Along with a new D Coordinator. That should do the trick on defense.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Priest said
“NE has a ton invested in their interior triangle and they run a timing system designed to negate a pass rush.”
What type of timing system is that? Sounds interesting.
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The Flux Capacitor.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
plunkett why do you think the slot rec’r is such a hot item now trhey want the ball out quick the best way to do that is with a slot and hots. When you have aslot like welker he is a double edge sword because of his sneaky speed and he’ll cut it upfield in a split second for a big one. All these slots are killing defenses because there’s no anser for them. We have to follow suit to keep up with someone like Ford.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Would love to see Burfict or Kuechly at MLB with McClain at WLB.
I said it before and I’ll say it again… the Raiders should be trying to get two first rounders in 2012.
Burfict, Ta’amu, Claiborne, and Griffin III could all make immediate impacts.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
1.21 Gigawatts!
LOL…good one, Morilla!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Bey seems better at catching short passes. He would be huge in the slot
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
We had the throw, we had the flag, we had defeat! Any Questions? Raider Football! Stay tuned. The NFL loves us! Beat them into submission, their hearts and minds will follow! The NFL is committed to take the RAIDERS out of competing in this sanctioned league. Al Davis has embarassed and sued them into extinction, won every time! We don’t play their game, we play Raider Football, they make up new rules, kinda makes me feel real proud, how they adjust the whole league to our standards! Raiders, stand Up and be Proud, we still live by Al Davis Rules, Disiplines, and Commitments to this Team, Hell or High Water, RAIDER ON, Commitment to Exellence, Any Questions?
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Learn from the Patriots. Fire on all cylinders the week after a loss. Stop the bonehead penalties and INTs. Go on the road and come back victorious. I’m tired of you guys who keep saying, “I didn’t expect to beat this team or that team.” BEAT THE TEXANS!!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Richard Seymour owes us a monster game in Houston.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
just did one thing good yesterday. Breshnahan should have had him shadow Welker on every play and literally beat the crap out of him as he tried to cross the LOS. That would have gone a long way to defeat Brady’s success
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a middle linebacker guarding welker no way. Welker has killed defenses all season. It happens against the raiders then its mcclains fault. Everything is mcclain, mcclain this mcclain that. The way the D cordinator runs this deffense there isnt a linebacker in the world that can strive in this system.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Beach, one bad pass and one bad PI call and it was a different call, swung the whole game away!
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
BTW, NO pressure on Brady all game, was this thought out, for no blow out?
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
860Todd, I like the attitude. I have to disagree with you on the discipline part. This team cannot get to where it wants to go by committing 10 penalties a game.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Some of you guys have been saying it however JFORD needs to move to the slot…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:01 pm
For Seymour’s and the team’s sake, I hope the patsies were double and triple teaming Seymour. If I could make the math well…
As well, Seymour can be excused for taking all that punishment all game long that he had to sit out a lot.
Oh well, so much for being the highest paid player in the team and get to play half game, maybe.
The Raiders don’t need to get rid of Seymour, he needs to step it up and stop making excuses. Plenty of games left to turn things around for the defense, who has been highly suspect from day one. It sure didn’t help that Shaughnessy, Huff, and Johnson were out that hurt in the defensive rotations, enough of excuses, though.
Next man up, next game up. Time to show what the Raiders are really made of.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:02 pm
CHZ, DMO, HAGS, DHB can run the outsides…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Hard of a thing as it is to do, I guess I have to root for Denver next week.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Yes sir, 860. We got to the QB in Denver and vs. the Jets (wins). We didn’t get to the QB in Buffalo and vs. the Patriots (losses).
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
I want Burfict and Ta’amu talk about biulding a BULLY that will go a long way towards getting it done
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Your bully issues on D, and stopping the run solved…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
we need a speed rusher off the edge. been sayin it for years now.its time for jc and dhb to grow up. i said they are the most important players on the teamthis year. if they click this offense will be completely lethal.this week is the time to do it.no more game manager sh!t for jc and no more slow progress for dhb. set a tone for the rest your careers now.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:04 pm
JB Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Thec07,
I take it the Bosworth reference is your new nickname for the RoMac experiment? Nice!
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Yep, rolando bosworth…lower case…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Yes, Koolaid…that will be hard!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
WE are held to a higher standard! Normally we have 14 penalties a game, because they try everything in their arsenal to take us out of games! The Raiders make football happen, which when we win, the game expands expotentionally, which the NFL cannot control. They have to control us, thats why we play harder! Been here too long, know the game!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
I wonder what penalties, if any, HuJack imposes on players for “Dumbschit” penalties? As for example, Mitchell’s dead ball helmet head butt personal foul = 15 yards. Penalties like that are just plain stupid. Hue should have a CASH fine for all dumbschit penalties. If these guys get their wallet tapped every time they do something stupid like that, maybe they’ll stop doing it. Make the penalty $1,000 per penalized yard. Donate the cash to a charity or some needy entity. Not all penalties would qualify for the fines, just the really stupid ones. False starts qualify. Defensive off-sides qualify. ST blocking in the back or holding away from the play qualifies, roughing the passer & getting caught on third down qualifies, etc. It amazing how many dumb penalties we have perfected. Time to break the trend.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:07 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm
McClain has to be the biggest disappointment so far. Looks slow-mo to me.
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Well, let’s break it down just like the Oakland Raiders did earlier today in film meetings. The Raiders actually played pretty well in the lst half. Let’s look at the back breaking play on the idiots lst drive of the 2nd half the 33 yard TD run from Ridley. The good news about this is you can probably go to some website and get a look at this play. So we can all look at this together. And as we say, the tape doesn’t lie.
The first thing is who the fook is Stevan Ridley who just subbed for their feature back? Well, he is a rookie out of LSU, not much of a receiving threat. So, right there, you figure you are not going to trust your franchise in the hands of someone who probably is not there on protections yet, and can’t catch any way. So, this has to be a run play. Sure enough, it’s a run play. Where do they run? Not at the guys you all hate, but at Big John Henderson, who is there only for Run D.
So what happens, Henderson is designed to be doubled, but their C handles Henderson by himself, which allows the RG to go after McClain. McClain true to form, is late to the play and even tho their RG is kind of shocked he still knocks McClain out of the play. At that point, Ridley is now onto the third level. In other words, this is going to be a big play. Tyvon Branch misses the tackle, McClain takes a very lame swipe at Ridley at about the five, and Ridley skips in for his lst career TD. What really happened was very very bad run defense by everyone other than Kelly/Seymour/Giordano.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
So, when you watch a play like Ridley’s skipping 33 yards for a TD, it’s really hard for me to be down on the refs.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Ford’s tripping is unexcusable!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
DBH’s non right turn is unexusible!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:14 pm
RoMac’s jogging is inexcusable!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Covering this up is unexcusible!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Blah MR….it was a very bad play from coaching to the personnel. DHB shouldnt have been on the field
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truth
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
So, when you watch a play like Ridley’s skipping 33 yards for a TD, it’s really hard for me to be down on the refs.
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The whole design of that formation they are in looks like they are going to the right, yet romac is shaded to the offenses left side of the field.
That diving attempted slap looked like a “shlt I can’t keep running better hit the dirt and make it look like ima try and trip him”
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
These minor FU’s cost us this game, it could of been won!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
The first thing is who the fook is Stevan Ridley who just subbed for their feature back? Well, he is a rookie out of LSU, not much of a receiving threat
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Part of film watching should be intel on the players…My intel told me that riddley had a higher yard per carry over every RB on the team…He is more dangerous than woodhead and green…
the qb of the D should have disected and sniffed run…he is too bust reeling on his haunches…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:17 pm
http://youtu.be/Epg5CovY7aE
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Priest said
“NE has a ton invested in their interior triangle and they run a timing system designed to negate a pass rush.”
What type of timing system is that? Sounds interesting.
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What I am saying here is NE has a lot invested in their C and guards. Dan Koppen has missed one start the last 5+ years. Mankins could very well be the best guard in the league and if you remember his holdout, he knows he might be the key to keeping Brady upright.
As far as running a timing system, basically Brady is going to heave it before the receivers have even gone into their breaks. What happens with NE’s offense is they normally start with short and medium passes, and by the 2nd half, after the Dlinemen figure they are not going to get a hand on Brady anyway, they start giving up, and Brady starts chucking it deeper and deeper downfield. They’ve been doing this for years.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Priesttj,
I think I would have gone into that game saying…take Welker out of the game for a pass catching stand point…If Deion Branch beats you…so be it. He had zero catches last week against Buffalo.
I just think the truly special players require more than just throwing Checkwa and Porter at him….
This board is going to start talking about Routt like they did Asomugha in about a year. If the opponent doesn’t bother throwing your way and you make no plays……well
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:18 pm
It looked like whe nGroves runs up to the line romac should have cheated to his left. Out of position as Huey says…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
HAWT!~ 10-03-11: INJURY QUESTIONS COULD MEAN MORE TAIWAN VS TEXANS
Gordon, Bush, Reece, Shaughnessy, Huff status…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_2011
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Man, it seems like the injury bug is taking its toll. Bush is bad news. Not sure about Taiwan’s ability. Can’t pass block but in space? Whoa boy!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Later gents, east coast here, Raider On!
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Seymour Bush,
We have to start expecting much more from the handful of players that are expected to carry the team and paid to do so.
Seymour, TKelly, Wimbley have not been differene makers for the 1st quarter of the season.
Who’s the “Darren McFadden” of the defense?
Cause Al is playing a few players as much and/or much more than DMAC.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:20 pm
I’m glad all these players & coaches are accepting responsibility for this or that but what does that really mean? Does somebody get thrashed, whipped or beaten? Do they lose cash? Does their picture get posted on the azzhole of the week bulletin board/ Or what? Just what does that statement really mean? It probably just like a lot of the other things, massive lip service with no real repercussions. That’s part of the problem if there’s no downside for screwing up.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Who’s the Denarious Moore / Stephen Wizniewski of this defense?
Defense is flat on its azz and they have to fix it or there will be no playoffs this year.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
LTR 860
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:23 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Who’s the Denarious Moore / Stephen Wizniewski of this defense?
Defense is flat on its azz and they have to fix it or there will be no playoffs this year.
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should be one of the money ball guys…
semo, nope
wimbley, nope
bosworth, hell no
routt, nope
like you say all are just guys…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
161. This is essentially correct.
It was man up time and he didn’t.
That happens.
I’d like to point out that this Defense is exactly what all those Al Daivs haters clamoured for.
Less man. More zone. More exotic.
More break downs, more bad plays, more points given up.
Happy now?
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
forgot abot tkelly, nope
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:25 pm
no i am not happy with the D…we have guys playing out of postition… bosworth is a wlb on a great day…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:26 pm
181. Its Seymour but he set a bad example Sunday. He does that once a season. Last year it was against Pitt.
Look for a stout run D against Houston
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
semo should be doing more for his bread…rigtht now he is just a guy…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
is mcclain from alabama?
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Thec07
You really should have a custom #55 jersey made up with the name Rolando bosworth on it. It would no doubt be a hit.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
he has more in common with jruss…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
JB Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Thec07
You really should have a custom #55 jersey made up with the name Rolando bosworth on it. It would no doubt be a hit.
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ROPFLMBAO….
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 pm
or jamarcus mcclain…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Thec,
My man…I am not trying to be an azzz
But seriously, this board has been condemning JC, DHB and the offense…yet the offense is one of the top offenses in the league.
The defense and their high salaries are just allowed to coast..makea play here and there and then sit and watch with the rest of us.
That defense is in crisis. If the offense wasn’t so competitive…we would 1-3 or maybe 0-4
That’s the problem right now…
JC throw a pick or DMAC has a fumble in a game the offense scores 35 points and no one has a damn thing to say about that overpaid and overrated defense.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
All this pink in these games is really annoying. Can they not just donate a pile of cash and call it a day?
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Problem is I hate going in on our players…Hate it…
Last year i called him quicksain mcclain as i thought he was a little slow to react to plays. He was a rook so i gave him a pass…Nothing i see from him suggest he will ever be an elite mlb…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
SnB, what you have been satying is spot on Bruh…The money ball guys need to put up, in the words of Priest…Period
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
SnB, I think you got it wrong bro, everyone sees the same thing, a highly paid defense that is playing like backups.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Thec,
Sometimes you gotta call it like you see it.
McClain is not getting his hat in there and fill the gaps and smacking somebody….he does alright in coverage…but the main job of the MLB is to get his nose in somebodies face and knock them backwards.
Its not happening and the grab 1st tackling style is very annoying.
The D-Line, outside of a spurt in the 1st half of the Denver GM and 3rd QTR of the Jet game has been a total liability.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Snb, agrre 100% thats why i havent gone in on anyone on the O…Our O is set growing hungry and dangerous…
Priest suggested earlier throw FORD in the slot…
ROG, A7 and a few others suggested the same thing, would make the O even more potent however, the D is giving up a ton a points….And most of the cash is spent on the D…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
My dude Hendu didnt play well bbut he wont do two bad showings in a row. He will come back in a mean way. Texans gonna have our undivided attention
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Method, you guys were saying move FORD to the Slot, i am on board wit it…Make it happen Coach Jackson…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
becker you guys blockincertain names is redic…
its guys like Method that makes this place…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Thec,
I am thrilled about the offense. Raiders are top 10 offense (#8 to be sure) with the #1 rush attack…and this from an offense that left some points on the floor to be sure.
The offense is good enough to get it done.
I think Hue’s playcalling was bad yesterday….sometimes you just line up and smash the ball into the endzone..Especially with that nasty o-line the Raiders have…Hue gets slick sometimes and it costs us.
INside the 5 or 10 with the running game o-line is just smash…wanna get slick…fine, put Bush & Taiwan..but run the ball.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
How much of the defenses failure is due to poor execution vs. bad scheme? Bresnahan cannot escape this discussion. He’s definitely part of the problem. To let Welker go untouched at the LOS all day was criminal. He should be fined for malpractice. Better yet, just fire his azz. send him back to the UFL where he’s still under qualified as a DC.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
You type the word B@uce you dont get to post…dumb…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
I am thrilled about the offense. Raiders are top 10 offense (#8 to be sure) with the #1 rush attack…and this from an offense that left some points on the floor to be sure.
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Yeah the jest game rock, and myers both dropped 3ed down passes that hand us punting after driving, thus losing points…
The O is set, only thing i want to see is FORd in the slot, Keep HAG, DMO, DHB, CHZ outside…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
anyways I am out guys…Vent seesion over…Focus on the smashing of the texans…We wont lose 2 in a row…Lets start a winning streak…
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:44 pm
#8 Offense
#29 Defense
And you guys talking about Jason Campbell
Ridiculous
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
is mcclain from alabama?
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yes Decatur,al
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
becker you guys blockincertain names is redic…
its guys like Method that makes this place…
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I guess you’re one of his fake troll names, too, geez.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:44 pm
#8 Offense
#29 Defense
And you guys talking about Jason Campbell
Ridiculous
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And you mealy-mouth around the same ole problems that have gone on for years, without a fix.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
My dude Hendu didnt play well bbut he wont do two bad showings in a row. He will come back in a mean way. Texans gonna have our undivided attention
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exactly. I think we play mich better next week.
This team seems to come back hard after a gut wrenching loss
texans are well balanced but we will come prepared
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:51 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Seymour Bush,
Seymour, TKelly, Wimbley have not been differene makers for the 1st quarter of the season.
Who’s the “Darren McFadden” of the defense?
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The Dmac of the defense would certainly be McClain. He is a highly paid, high draft pick who is supposed to not only run the D, but be an impact player as well. Now don’t get me wrong, I think McClain can still develop into a good player, it just better start happening soon.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 pm
How are Al’s big offseason spending on his “key” players coming so far? nada nothing zilch.
1. Wimbley – I tried to tell you guys the dude had padded his stats in a meaningless game last season in KC and so far he’s done nada. He aint elite and teams dont dump elite pass rushers for a 3rd round pick.
2. Routt – The only reason why he hasnt been as exposed so far this season is because the other db’s are really bad. I mean why wouldnt they attack Porter, Chekwa and a limping CJ? Routt can only defend the long ball and gets exposed time and again on short routes. Dude got beat badly by Deion Branch for a TD. He would have been owned by Welker too had they put him on Welker. Davonne Bess toasted his a$$ last year against Mia on those crossing routes. Welker would have owned him yesterday.
We were 8-8 last season and we’re playing like who we are so far. 2-2 and probably 7-9 to 9-7 this season. To get over the hump, we need more than just a game manager at QB. Until we get a playmaking QB, we aint sniff no playoff.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
AIS,
You also need a defense that is not the 3rd worst in the NFL
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
and they have earned every bit of that 3rd worst designation.
Can’t say the offense doesn’t score, can’t say the opponent just runs it…or the plethora of excuses used to justify crappy run defense and poor overall results.
The defense is a lot about mentality to.
I don’t think these Raiders on defense have the killer instinct.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
BTW who would have thought that Vince Woolfork and all 400 lbs of him would have more picks than Nnamdi.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Romo said on the post presser today that Hue wasn’t aggressive enough offensively in the 4th qrtr and I agree if you watch that last drive with the huge play to DHB why didn’t we see that earlier?
We should’ve went deep on them boys the entire 4th qrtr I think to a certain extent Hue gave the Pat’s to much respect and it cost us. The FG kicking and the lack aggresive playcalling. With Moore Ford and DHB there is no way they can cover that and if they do go to DMC on a checkdown plus Boss is a HUGE target what a pickup that guy is. I think in the redzone we ahve to utilize Boss better. The guy has hops and his got long arms throw it up there and let him go get it. He’s a redsone nightmare.
I have to also give Hue some space he’s just getting started and to a certain extent he still doesn’t quite know what to do with all this offensive talent.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
AIS they have trhown at Routt you must haven’t been paying attention every team has thron at Routt but with little success that’s why they go away from him.
You changed your name but you didn’t get any smarter…
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Priesttj,
Some of it may the fact the defense isn’t playing well. can’t afford too many turnovers when the defense has not yet demonstrated an ability to stop anybody.
Also, I like the offense the way they are calling it. With the exception of getting slick inside the 10 yardline…the offense has gone downfield, converted 3rd downs and have limited turnovers.
WE can’t just go away from the game plan cause the defense doesn’t want to stop anybody
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
AIS,
You also need a defense that is not the 3rd worst in the NFL
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Agreed. But we have more weapons on the O and we are so close to making that group a legit elite O. DMAC, Ford, Moore are all playmakers. A lot of people dont realize that we got lucky against the Jets on offense. We were dead in the water with 4 consecutive 3 and out series and our offense produced only 13 points. The other 21 points were on a big 70 yd run, busted plays that turned into a score based on Dmac/Dmoore and a Cromartie gift. You can’t win by depending on those types of plays every week.
Yesterday we scored 13 points again and there were no big plays or gifts that allowed us to score more points. Well Ford did turn a busted play into a huge gain but JC threw that one away. I can’t wait to have Pryor back there. We can truly play ball control and hide our D’s weakness in the backfield.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Priest,
You’re right. You’re definitely smarter than me. I bow to you my blog pro.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
SnB at that point it didn’t matter we were down 31-13 how could it have hurt?? we hit a bigtime play and we never went deep to either Ford or Moore not even once. Why not there was no Revis in that secondary.. Throw it!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
What up Raider fans and others! From what I saw from the Northeast section of the O:
Disappointing:
Seymour
McClain (has lost the Beast handle until further notice)
All LB’s
Anyone attempting to cover Welker
DMAC out after being bodyslammed
INT’s (the 1st I blame DHB, #2 all Soup)
Encouraging:
DWOW
Jarvis Moss
MM34 (In limited action)
Hagan (again)
Soup can toss the longball
Faith in the Nation (This is SO far from over)
CODE BLACK is still in effect
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:11 pm
BHP I AGREE….Hue will know fully what to do with the offense when DHB is demoted
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 pm
I should add Chekwa to the encouraging list… I got a feeling about that kid.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
I watched that game over today… if it wasnt for that costly turnover in the red zone..we might have won this game… you cant make costly mistakes like that and expect to win…. campbell needs to manage the game a whole lot better.. i expected brady to carve up the defense ..what i didnt expect was our weak offense!!! we have a shot next week in tex but got to play smarter to beat the texans…
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
All you brainiacs ever do is come in here complaining that we need an ELITE QB well all 32 teams need an elite QB and as soon as one is available ……………Let us know!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
plunk… i remember chekwa from his days in ohio state.. i think he will be our starting cb opposite stanford routte before too long…better than dvd imo!!! c johnson better hurry up and get better.. because this kid is on the rise!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
“McClain, I don’t see him,” Romanowski said. “He’s 6-4, 255. Make some plays … knock the crap out of some people. Be around the football.”
Ouch.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
This just in: the Eagles have no defense. They must have Nnamdi Asomugha on the field.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Plunk I like Chekwa too. Too bad we dont pressure a qb
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
All you brainiacs ever do is come in here complaining that we need an ELITE QB well all 32 teams need an elite QB and as soon as one is available ……………Let us know!!
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Was having this discussion with my roomate tonite. How many elite QB’s are really in this league? 5? 6?
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
We don’t suck. Well, not REALLY bad. We’ll have a lot of company in the list of teams that fell to the Pats.
BUT…….this game was winnable, but for the mental lapses and some key misfires. We are who we thought we were. Got a long ways to go, but I’m not embarrased for the guys like in years past. We WILL improve, in increments. “Obviously”, it’s a process.
On the bright side, Rolondo McBosworth (love that one) thought he did OK. Wellll…..think positive Big Guy. You’ll get it someday.
OK, next team up. We got a long ways to go and we WILL improve. Hue said so.
UN-GLOVE THE PIMP HAND.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
sorry priest…. but i cant wait for pryor… i hope he was ready now… hes going to make the soup experience an after thought!! pryor probably wont be elite but he doesnt have to be elite.. he just needs to put us in position to win the big games! i think hes going to surprise the nay sayers!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers. 5 elite.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
216.Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
BTW who would have thought that Vince Woolfork and all 400 lbs of him would have more picks than Nnamdi.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA……TOO F’IN FUNNY.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Its the biggest tragedy DHB is starting in 2011
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You got that right. The playmaker should be in there every snap. DMoore I’m talkin about, along with Hagan and Ford. DHB is paid to catch the ball, but a playmaker he is not.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Top NFL QB’s IMO:
1)Rodgers
2)Brady
3)P. Manning (50% chance he never plays again IMO)
4)Brees
5)(drawing a blank here)
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
The defense lost all intensity after the 2 personal fouls to begin the game. Brady’s coolness seemed to suck the energy out of the defense. This cannot happen again this season.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
beach Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers. 5 elite.
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Maybe you’re right with that one Beach.. But man do I hate that guy..
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
plunk… theres atleast 10 qbs better than campbell.. campbell is an average qb… would you give him a multimillion dollar contract? i wouldnt!! niether should al… thats ok!! we got pryor on the horizon!! campbell better step up his game or its curtains for him..
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Chuck B = plan B
Memo to HueJax: Bring out the pimp hand baby!
Memo to Al Davis: Take that right foot of yours and give ol’ chucky B a message upside the rear portion of his ass and tell him to get this defense right.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:29 pm
I agree with Priest and B&uce on the Quarterback.
First of JC is doing well. Again, if the margin for error for this team is 1 turnover…then the season is over right now.
Also, even if you did get rid of JC…who the “f” you gettin?
QBs take time to develop if you get a rookie…and a vet? There are none available…Minnesota had to recycle McNabb and the Skins had a battle between Grossman and some guy named Beck.
What do you want? MF’n Gradkowski…or some other fringe NFL player?
You’ve already given up if that’s your answer.
The offense is ranked #8 in the NFL…fine..takeaway garbage time and its still a top 10 offense.
The defense is ranked 29th.
Get the offense to let’s say 15th…and we are 3-1 and maybe 4-0
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:30 pm
beach Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
The defense lost all intensity after the 2 personal fouls to begin the game. Brady’s coolness seemed to suck the energy out of the defense. This cannot happen again this season.
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Beach is +2
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Get the “defense” to let’s ay 15th
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Here I will help you all:
Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Vick, Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Schaub. And if that is not enough Stafford, Bradford and Cam Newton are next in line.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
shaub.. roethlisberger…matt ryan.. sam bradford.. eli manning… stafford.. i would take all these guys before soup,, including your so called elite qbs
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
What do you want? MF’n Gradkowski…or some other fringe NFL player?
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There are some here that long for Grads.. I am not among them
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
thanks seymour..i forgot vick..lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Elite QB? Let’s not worry about that.
How about a QB that makes plays for his team and has carried his team from time to time. None of these guys are considered game managers.
Josh Freeman check.
Fitzpatrick check.
Flacco check
Ben She said No check
Brady check
Schaub check
Peyton check
Hasslebeck check
Rivers check
Romo check
Eli check
Vick check
Stafford check
Rodgers check
Matty Ice check
Newton check
Brees check
Bradford check
That’s a total of 18 QB’s in this league and they are all considered more than just game managers. But hey we Raider fans love to say oh we will settle for a game manager. I GUARANTEE YOU Pryor will be more of a playmaker than JC will ever be. You can mark that down.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Here I will help you all:
Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Vick, Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Schaub. And if that is not enough Stafford, Bradford and Cam Newton are next in line.
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You consider all of the above elite?
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
it wont take much for pryor to overtake soup,.. his running ability alone will make him a better qb than campbell… PERIOD!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
shaub.. roethlisberger…matt ryan.. sam bradford.. eli manning… stafford.. i would take all these guys before soup,, including your so called elite qbs
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And none of those players are available
And all of those players would have to come in here….learn the offense and then in the 2nd year do something.
I am sick of waiting.
JC is good enough to get it done and has made the throws…the INT in the end zone was my 1st beef with him all year…and that pick wasn’t all his fault. DHB was tangled up in the wash sitting out of bounds….but hey.
Sure let’s go get Matt Ryan
GTFOH
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
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Looks like McClain has supplanted Turdell Sands as the worlds largest invisible man.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
plunk…. maybe not elite but better than what we have with campbell!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:35 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
What do you want? MF’n Gradkowski…or some other fringe NFL player?
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Anybody longing for a fringe QB that got NO STARTING offers and has a weak arm and limited game…is just interested in cheer leading
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
it wont take much for pryor to overtake soup,.. his running ability alone will make him a better qb than campbell… PERIOD!!
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October 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Here I will help you all:
Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Vick, Ryan, Eli, Flacco, Schaub. And if that is not enough Stafford, Bradford and Cam Newton are next in line.
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You consider all of the above elite?
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Absolutely. With The newer guys the jury is still out, but they seem to be on their way.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
snb.. you think im not tired of waiting… campbell is ok… but thats it.. nothing better than ok.. thats not going to get us to where we want to go!! i for one cant wait for pryor!! i expect campbell to start running for first downs more in the comming weeks .. i see him with open lanes to run for a lot of yards but he refuses to run… pryor would take OFF!! i csnt wait man!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
plunk…. maybe not elite but better than what we have with campbell!!
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True enough, unfortunately the NFL does not allow the kidnapping of contracted quarterbacks..
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Look, here’s reality.
The Raiders tried to develop their elite QB…unfortunately JaDavis didn’t work out.
The team needed a steady hand.
JC offers that. He will not be a Tom Brady, Josh Freeman or Matt Stafford.
The Raiders, quite frankly, haven’t demonstrated an ability to develop a QB…and I don’t think the Owner, the players or the fans have any stomach for waiting another bunch years for some other guy.
Get me someone that can move the ball, limits mistakes and keeps the offense competitive….
You lookin for our own Cam Newton or Joe Flacco…then you will be eternally frustrated.
Call me when we have a defense that is not ranked amoung the WORST in the league in all aspects!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
snb.. you think im not tired of waiting… campbell is ok… but thats it.. nothing better than ok.. thats not going to get us to where we want to go!! i for one cant wait for pryor!! i expect campbell to start running for first downs more in the comming weeks .. i see him with open lanes to run for a lot of yards but he refuses to run… pryor would take OFF!! i csnt wait man!!
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Ghost,
That running crap doesn’t work in the NFL
You have to win with your arm first
JC is ok…but ok is all this team needs.
Better to build a mediocre defense than to fling it all into the ring trying to hit the QB lottery
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
snb,, i take it you dont like pryor… well you will.. and i will remind you of your silly comments. dude.. cammpbell would be a perfect qb if you have ravens defense of 2000..
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Put any of those QB’s above with DMAC and his production this year, they would have looked all pro. Imagine Hasslebeck playing with DMAC and our run game this year. That dude has no business getting Tenn at 3-1 and beating the crap out of Baltimore. CJ hasnt done crap for him either. He was a free agent.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
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October 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
snb… running doesnt work in the nfl?? hmmm??? than what the hell is vick doing in the nfl?? cmon man.. you can do better than that!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Pryor overtake JC without much? Hahahahahahahahaha. That’s funny. You see his throwing motion? My god NFL dbs is on that schit
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Breaking News————–> High Five
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
snb… running doesnt work in the nfl?? hmmm??? than what the hell is vick doing in the nfl?? cmon man.. you can do better than that!!
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October 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
That’s what happens when Chuck B doesn’t blitz enough and out consistent pressure on Brady up the middle. The secondary gets picked apart.
The thing with Chuck B is that he doesn’t make adjustments quick enough, compared to what John Marshall was doing last year.
The tempo of the game for the team was set when the D leader made 3 silly penalties that allowed a Pats team to extend drives. It’s like Seymour was playing for the Pats still! Can’t give Brady and that offense 2nd chances!
The D needs to get pressure on opposing QB’s more often on blitzes and fill the gaps on the run plays.
The offense will be fine as long as Jason doesn’t make dumb mistakes like he did yesterday.
My question on offense though. Why didn’t Huey and Saunders go downfield more with Ford and Moore?
Ford and Moore should be used like how Welker is with the Pats, but Ford and Moore are more dangerous deep threats.
My friends and I were watching the game and my brother kept saying why doesn’t DHB catch with his hands. The right after he was thrown to on that conversion play wide open and the one time he decides to catch it with his hands, he drops it badly. Then I said, that’s why he doesn’t catch it with his hands.
Raiders have faced the Texans and that ZBS system so many times and practiced against it when Cable was here, that the should know how to stop it by now.
Maintain gap control discipline, get low and off the blocks and have back side contain!
Foster will run all over them if they don’t sack up as a TEAM DEFENSE and they will lose! Branch needs to get low and tackle. Too may arm tackles going on out there….it’s disgusting!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:47 pm
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October 3rd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
snb… running doesnt work in the nfl?? hmmm??? than what the hell is vick doing in the nfl?? cmon man.. you can do better than that!!
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Seems to me that he’s been losing, getting his a$$ physically abused and injured and pleading with the refs to throw the yellow flag more often because after all he is a little guy. He probably won’t make it through the season. It’s a simple matter of physics. When little 200# man gets run into by multiple 300# guys, things break and little guy gets hurt. Running QB’s in the NFL don’t last all that long. a run every now & then, OK. But, all the time will guarantee you time on the injured list spending time with the trainers or worse.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
CODE BLACK is STILL in effect
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
some people here are willing to accept jc..Why?? because hes better than jamarcus russell… its ridiculous man!! jc is not the answer!!.. we went from the worst qb in the league to average.. so i guess i should be content.. right?? hell noooo!! f this!! we have a good team.. and we would make the playoffs year in and year out… if we had any of the other qbs mentioned above… but ill settle for pryor..right now!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
What unrealistic… and what you video gamers don’t understand is that if you have a defense giving up 30+ a game…you ain’t winning
As for JC…I am not sure what you all are looking for. This is a run 1st offense. Period.
As far as JC, this team made mistakes inside the 30…got there some 6x.
Clean some shhhh up…like Hue Jackson not getting slick inside the 5 yardline…or Jacoby Ford beating his man one-on-one but getting tripped up.
The Buffalo game…I don’t know what more you all want.
If you want Aaron Rogers…you might as well give up on Oakland cause a QB that is young and of that caliber will not be here anytime soon
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Ghost,
Give me a credible alternative that is measurably better?
And if you say Pryor…then I will have to dismiss you as a Madden 12 guy
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
jb,,,cmon man.. the guy has no offensive line/…. what about last season??? but i guess you dont want to talk about vick of 2010 do you?
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:53 pm
look.. time will tell.. you want to put your hopes on campbell..go ahead.. i hope he does well because im a raider fan first and foremost.. but i dont see it!! …maybe he will become the player you guys want him to be.. but honestly..ive seen enough and i think he doesnt have it..
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
The loss hurt, but its done. At least this year there is hope this team feels the pain. Raiders will be back. Sunday. With a vengence. With punishment to dispense. And Houston will be the abused.
Code Black will be back.
Sunday. In Houston.
10AM PST
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Denarius Moore MUST be present on all snaps, the ball has to go to the playmaker, alot.
Hagan and Ford must be present to!
Chucky B Baby MUST have a red ass!
JC will be fine.
DMAC will be bustin out, big time.
Oakland 38
Houston 17
Its all business.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Vick is dangerous cause he can throw the ball…it starts there….not with his legs…he runs as a last option
Vick is really one of a kind — Steve Young ran the ball too…but he wasn’t shhh until he learned how to read a defense and throw.
All the other QBs with mobility had to learn to throw and read receviers before they could help their teams.
Notice how Cam hardly runs at all…he is working the reads and making the throws..letting the backs and receivers get the yards.
I would rather see the Raiders use their 1st round pick next year to get a boss DT to plug the middle….
That will get us closer to victory than bringing in yet another 1 or 2 year rental
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Some players have the it factor and they love the competition. Some players wilt under pressure. Pryor can’t match Cam Newton but I am sure they both believe deeply they can carry their respective teams. I doubt Pryor would worry about Gradkowski on his a$$.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:58 pm
That reversed PI call against Ford was typical Raider hating NFL ref BS that happens every other game the Raiders are playing.
If that crap would have happened to Welker, does anyone really think the refs would have reversed that PI call?
Hell freaking NO!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Terrell Suggs…4 sacks..INts and forced fumbles.
What’s Wimbley up too?
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Hey Ghost, I don’t really think JC is the answer long run either. But he’s the starting QB of my beloved Oakland Raiders right now, so I’m going along with him. As far as Vick 2010 vs 2011, well, thats the effect on a running QB. It’s why RB’s have the shortest careers in the NFL. The punishment in cumulative.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
pryor has the talent to be randall cunningham… a very good qb that passed well and made the defense pay the price if they dared him to throw.. / time will tell.. if campbell improves i will be happy.. because it means the raiders will finally be in the playoffs but if he doesnt.. than i say let him go to f/a ..hes not worth spending millions..and put in pryor…
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
AIS,
I will take competence at the QB position. This franchise can’t develop QBs and hasn’t developed one in 40 years. — strike 1
Teams do not give up good QBs unless they only have a year or two left — strike 2
Even if you bring in a QB…probably takes him a year or so to get the system and our developing receivers — strike 3
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:01 pm
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October 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I like it BN
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Ghost,
Al Davis is not waiting another 3 years for a QB to develop.
If JC doesn’t earn a contract..there will be another retread in here doing talking a good game.
Just give me a QB that stays in the same system and can do enough to be competent….
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
plunk… the eagles offensive line is horrible man… i assure you if vick had our oline right now//he would be tearing up the league.. ill tell you this.. i want campbell to do well.. because if he does well..it means my team is doing well… i just dont expect him to be the guy that gets us to the promised land.. but honestly i hope im wrong,,
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
We speak the same tongue… GhostRaider
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Campbell is the 9th rated player in the league ayt his position and anyone who tells me Flacco and Ryan are better is a liar Flake-O is average at best and Ryan is soo overarted it’s stinks. Manning plays well every other game. At this point I’ll atke Camp over most of them except the 8-10 very good to great players. After that it’s just personal preference…………….period
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Ghost=Raider
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
jb,,,cmon man.. the guy has no offensive line/…. what about last season??? but i guess you dont want to talk about vick of 2010 do you?
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Not the point ghost. The point is running QB’s are as much a liability as the are a plus. But, there is much more likelihood that a running QB’s life expectancy in the NFL is going to be a lot shorter.
There’s o evidence that Pryor will even make it to a starting role. Right now at best, he’s on a par with Tebow and that’s nothing to write home about. Actually, Tebow is more experienced. So, when you say Pryor will easily take Soup’s position, you are not being realistic. Would I rather have Brady, Rodgers or Brees here? Hell yes, but that’s not happening. All I can tell you is that if you want to follow the S&B then you need to understand that Soup is as good as it is going to get for us for at least the next 2 years. And, I’m OK with that because I believe he’s going to be just fine. He will continue to improve this year as his surrounding cast improves. He usually doesn’t get careless with ball security and he can make all the throws with relatively good accuracy. He’s more than capable if getting us to and winning the SB. We just need to get the other half of our team to perform and we’ll be right where we want to be.
Forget all the woulda, coulda, shoulda stuff. That goes for the what if’s too. Deal with what we have and then you won’t be disappointed. We are in great shape compared to last year and even more so, the year before. Perfection takes time. Right now we are relevant and teams are starting to see we are for real. we will get to where we are going. It just takes a little time. Soup will be just fine. He’s also a professional gentleman and not a pain in the a$$ or jerkoff like many others.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
snb… so i assume you would go all in with jc?? if he gets us to a 9-7 record.. no playoffs this year… how much money will you be willing to fork over for jc?? hes going to want a lot… this could be the old mans last chance to pick the right qb…
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Campbell has played well and is getting better, all these guys were nowhere to be found until he had abad game now they crawl out of their holes to crow. If you can’t stand up when he’s playing well then sit down when plays bad…………….have some damn character!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
becker you guys blockincertain names is redic…
its guys like Method that makes this place…
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Really Kell? I am a troll now…Come on you know you can do better than that…I have been posting on this board Thec03, and Thec07 for years now…
Come on Bruh…
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:14 pm
gotta run guys – g’night. See y’all tomorrow most likely.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Gotta go.. just want to say this may have been one of the finest, troll-free discussions I’ve witnessed here, with TRUE Raider fans able to speak their mind, and even disagree without rancour and name-calling or ridiculous descent into politics… Well done!
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October 3rd, 2011 at 10:18 pm
priest… your a fool.. i did come in here after the jets game and gave him props… your a company guy that thinks that no one should ever say anything negative about a player unless you approve.. wake up man! you finally got fed up with mclain and you nailed him today… well finally!!! you rag on mclain…. for yesterdays loss well..campbell was more of the goat than romac..so eat it!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:19 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
snb… so i assume you would go all in with jc?? if he gets us to a 9-7 record.. no playoffs this year… how much money will you be willing to fork over for jc?? hes going to want a lot… this could be the old mans last chance to pick the right qb…
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Personally, I have NO PROBLEM with the way JC has played.
The offense has done the job. This team should be 3-1 if it had a mediocre defense.
That’s the boogeyman…the mfn overpaid defense. 38 points to Buffalo — as Nell Carter says…Gimmie a Break….
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
snb… you honestly expected to beat the best offense in the league with 19 total points..lmao
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Ar you JC’s agent how do you know what he wants? The season is young maybe he plays to whatever contract he wants. You guys assume way to much as though you know what the future will bring and you don’t let him play this year then talk….
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Chost I’m a Raider fan who wnats to win right now he’s the QB and playing well. After the season we’ll see where we are and negotiate or not from there YOU speculating about what he is or wont be is of no consequence. He has a season to play let him play it……………period
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
snb… you honestly expected to beat the best offense in the league with 19 total points..lmao
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You honestly expect to win giving up 35 points on five consecutive drives in the 2nd half?
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
priest… its going to be his last big contract… hes 28 yrs old… if hes smart he goes after as much money as he can get… but its safe to say.. its a contract year for him..he needs to play well and importantly win games if he wants a big payoff!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:27 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
snb… you honestly expected to beat the best offense in the league with 19 total points..lmao
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You honestly expect to win giving up 35 points on five consecutive drives in the 2nd half? _ LMFAO!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 pm
snb.. we only gave up 31 so calm the hell down… and yes.. i did expect the team to score more than 31.. the patriots d is atrocious!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
ok.. snb you think our d sucks!!! well than whats the problem me saying the qb is not all that?? lmao… i expected the raiders to win… apparently you didnt!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:30 pm
let the season play out what thell are you worried about it now for shutup already……..we know what needs to be done…………we don’t need you to educate us. the season is 4 games in let it play out!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:33 pm
ok priest.. thays one point i can agree with.. let the season play out!! im going to support the team no matter what!! i want the raiders to win as much if not more than you guys… maybe my patience is just not as good as yours… but i guess well see!! good evening gets!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Ghost,
I was talking about the OTHER game where they gave up over 30 points…that game in Western NY.
Offense put up 35 points and still lost?
What happened?
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
I’m back temporarily. A comment about our defensive problems:
As I see it the problem begins at the top – our DC. He simply doesn’t have a clue, is slow to react & adjust and put simply, this job is over his head. The next problem I see is personnel configurations. I’m thinking we need more of a run stuffer DT in there with Seymour. For now, start with Houston, JHenderson, Seyour, & Sho’Nasty. The rotation should be Scott, Bryant, Kelly & Moss. Our LB’s are another whole bag of worms. Wimbley has been invisible, Rolando bosworth is dogging it & playing terrible and Groves is simply too little & too late. With the exception of Routt & a healthy CJ, everybody is new & inexperienced. Our safeties are just average at best. Given that picture, is there any surprise that we have the problems we do? The solution is:
• a new competent DC
• a new run stuffing DT
• a new real Mike MLB
• a new WLB
• all current D players playing to their real ability
• enough discipline to stop generating stupid penalties
That’s the plan. As soon as they implement it, we will finally be where we need to be.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
snb… i thought it was the pats game you were talking about… obviously if jc plays as well as he did vs buffalo.. we win a lot of games… can he play that way in a consistent basis? i guess well see… im just so sick of losing man… thats all.. im tired of it!! you guys probably just have more patience.. i honestly hope im wrong about jc.. lets let the season play out!! gnite man!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
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October 3rd, 2011 at 10:47 pm
haha that code black thing is hecka cool wish i knew how to do that oh well………
next year we need to draft all D players and some special team contributors
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 pm
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October 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:47 pm
haha that code black thing is hecka cool wish i knew how to do that oh well………
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cut and paste.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
I have no problem with the bully thing…I also respect Al’s defensive philosophy of lining up and taking on the opponent on our terms.
But reality is that there are a lot of great players in this league and occassionally you will go up against special players.
When you face guys like Welker, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Jennings, Adrian Pederson etc…occassionally you have to bend the strategy to deal with the reality that is in front of you.
Having a 4th round rookie and a practice squad reserve have sole responsibility for Wes Welker…AND have thosre guy repeatedly fail and do NOTHING to address it when you have a stud like Routt…is arrogant and just plain STUPID
You will not win many games ingoring mismatches like that.
Fix this mess!
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This team is not going to go where Huey and us fans want it to go with a one dimensional defensive philosophy and a lousy over matched DC like Chuck B running it!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
# JB Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
I’m back temporarily. A comment about our defensive problems:
As I see it the problem begins at the top – our DC. He simply doesn’t have a clue, is slow to react & adjust and put simply, this job is over his head. The next problem I see is personnel configurations. I’m thinking we need more of a run stuffer DT in there with Seymour. For now, start with Houston, JHenderson, Seyour, & Sho’Nasty. The rotation should be Scott, Bryant, Kelly & Moss. Our LB’s are another whole bag of worms. Wimbley has been invisible, Rolando bosworth is dogging it & playing terrible and Groves is simply too little & too late. With the exception of Routt & a healthy CJ, everybody is new & inexperienced. Our safeties are just average at best. Given that picture, is there any surprise that we have the problems we do? The solution is:
• a new competent DC
• a new run stuffing DT
• a new real Mike MLB
• a new WLB
• all current D players playing to their real ability
• enough discipline to stop generating stupid penalties
That’s the plan. As soon as they implement it, we will finally be where we need to be.
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The defense was playing well overall last year and improved dramatically under DC John Marshall….with Chuck B, they are regressing…predictably!
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
I’m sick and tired of all the talk. “We’re gonna win the Afc West”. “We’re gonna make a run at the playoffs and challenge for the Super Bowl” etc. etc.
8 yrs. of this has got me jaded. Just win on the damn field and quit telling me how good the Raiders “really” are or how great the “guys in that locker room” are.
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:58 pm
d night.. actually liked john marshall.. but i guess the guy had had enough of al davis.. he was offered the job but rejected the offer.. it wasnt a great defense but a whole lot better than breshnahans .. thats for sure
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:01 pm
gerard.. i hear you man.. im tired of all the losing as well.. those two games vs the chargers are probably going to be the two most crucial games of the season… i think if we win those two games..more than likely we will win afc west this season…imo
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
# ghostraiders Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:58 pm
d night.. actually liked john marshall.. but i guess the guy had had enough of al davis.. he was offered the job but rejected the offer.. it wasnt a great defense but a whole lot better than breshnahans .. thats for sure
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Offered the job? The reports were that old man Al didn’t offer to renew Marshalls contract.
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 pm
3. More from Belichick on sports radio WEEI, specifically on Tom Brady targeting receiver Wes Welker 14 times in 30 attempts against the Raiders: “He was open on several plays. … There wasn’t a lot of double coverage in that game, surprisingly. I thought that we might get doubled a little bit more. They really didn’t double Wes much. A lot of times, as you saw, they were playing inside leverage on him, trying to keep him from coming across the middle, and he was on a couple of those outside-breaking routes and [CB Joe] Porter wasn’t close enough to cover him or a couple cases even tackle him after he made the catch. I have no argument Tom throwing to him in those situations.”
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
I don’t wanna hear how we can be 5-3 even if we lose to Houston.
I have news for ya; there’s no guarantee we’re beating Cleveland, Miami, or Denver for that matter.
Listen, you’re gonna tell me “those guys in the locker room” are a playoff team, then BEAT HOUSTON and prove you are a good team.
If the Raiders are as good as Hue says they are then i’m not accepting losing to Houston cuz “oh they’re so good, we can’t possibly expect to beat a tuff team like that on the road”, but in the same vein proclaim you are a SB contender.
If the Raiders are as good as Hue says…you BEAT HOUSTON period! No excuses. I’m sick of ‘em. “Oh we can still do good even when we lose to Houston”. BULL FREAKING CRAP.
I’m not giving the Raiders or Hue any break whatsoever on this. They are the ones telling me how good they are.
Prove it! Beat Houston or you’re full of crap.
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Gerard, you’re talking my language. The Houston defense is mean. We need to put them in their place and mop the floor with them. BEAT HOUSTON!!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Hue Jackson Reflects on Raider Season.
(AP)
First year Raider Head Coach Hue Jackson offered his summation of the Raiders 2011 season following the Raiders’ season ending loss against San Diego on Sunday. “Obviously I expected a lot better in terms of wins and losses this year”. “I thought we accomplished a lot of things during the year”. You guys heard me say that we’re building a bully. We are. It doesn’t happen overnight. We’ve got a lot of work left to do to get there; where we want to be. Where we WILL be. It isn’t happening as fast as some would like, but I promise you WE WILL GET THERE.” He continued: “I think we showed a lot of people what we can be this year. We also showed there’s alot of work left to do. We will fix this, i can promise you that”.
“We are really looking forward to a year next year where we can really challenge for the playoffs. I thought we could get there this year and win the Afc West. I really believed we could. We just came up a little short.”
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I don’t want to hear that. I’m sick of hearing that.
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
your sick of it gerard?,,,well, were sick of you. How do you like that? Coach hue does wat he thinks the team needs,,,,who cares what you think…period!
I dont care if we lose, as long as we lose Mr. Davis’s way.
He waved at me once, while I was in the stands, and it changed my life,,,,,,forever,,,,. period.!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:14 am
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October 4th, 2011 at 12:16 am
Coach Jacksons gotten too conservative. He needs to gamble more.
We’ve got the talent to make that happen now. We haven’te before.
I like that he takes shots. Thats great, just needs to do it more and utilize that talent. Taiwan is really good in space mang…
October 4th, 2011 at 1:33 am
Is McLain the Jamarcus on defense? He reminds me of Russell alot his demeanor, the lack of emotion …he sounds just like him, he seems not to have any fire in him..
October 4th, 2011 at 4:26 am
It looks like Priest had a life changing experience. ….kinda like being abducted by aliens or being touched by Michael Jacksons glove…. wow!! Al Davis waved at him and it changed his life forever??? Lmao!! … as long as we lose al Davis’s way.. its OK??? What’s fricken loser man!! People like you are the reason why sports suck sometimes. ..
PERIOD!!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:29 am
I don’t want to hear that. I’m sick of hearing that.
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You are ridiculous. This is year ONE of what Hue Jackson is trying to do. We are 4 games into the season. I know the losing has been going on a long time, but this stuff doesnt happen overnight. Everyone complains that Al doesnt give coaches enough time, yet here you are complaining 4 games into the season after a loss to arguably the best team in football that you are sick of what Hue is saying. Stop and think sometimes man.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!
BCZ24, what’s up. man? Yeah, I hear ya…no one wants to give anyone time especially after a loss…sometimes I wonder about those who post in here…
October 4th, 2011 at 5:43 am
Also, why is it after a loss, the grade for coaching is always a D or something like that?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:58 am
I rewatched that endzone INT by JC about 10 times last night and I have to say, while it was still a crappy through, JC got jobbed by DHB. DHB was supposed to come across the endzone and flinched towards it but stopped. JC threw the ball where DHB was SUPPOSED to be. QBs dont throw to receivers, they throw to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be. I wasn’t buying the ‘I was trying to throw it out of the endzone’ and it slipped garbage. It was a clean tight spiral directly to Chung. JC is a professional and instead of pointing fingers, he said its on me. Kudos to JC for that…
Rolando McClain… you are on my sh!tlist now. “I tackled well, but I haven’t watched tape yet to see who didn’t” I cant believe he said that. WTF did Hue say after the Bills game. Goddamnit man I hope Hue benches him for a week.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:02 am
WTF? I cannot say that DHB needs to get benched?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:03 am
I thought Hue coached a good game, I thought we needed to take more chances in the second half, but overall Hue coached a game that, if executed properly, would have put is in the position to win. Period. 2-3 years ago under Cable or his predecessors you KNEW when we played a team like the Patriots we would get blown OUT. We are a very young team and experiencing the growing pains all young teams face. We WILL get better. I am buying what Hue is selling and I think the team is too.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:04 am
AHHHHH….mods, come on now…it was just one word…
Anyways…DHB not finishing his route needs to get benched for doing so, because that wasn’t the first time he has done that! I couldn’t believe Rolando said those words either…
October 4th, 2011 at 6:04 am
BCZ24…Amen brother! Amen!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:07 am
DHB doesnt need to be ‘benched’ but he needs to be playing behind the other receivers that are performing. He should be #4 on the depth chart right now. Lets face it, he HAS outperformed Schillens to this point. It is so frustrating that we hung on to Chaz through all the injuries, and now the guy is healthy… and he is invisible. What a waste.
I really think we need to offer one of our in trade for some defensive help. Schillens or Murphy should be trade bait… I said in camp, offer Murphy to Seattle for Curry.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.BCZ POST-334,DONT U KNOW MAN,THE LOSING HAS BEEN GOING ON 4 8 YRS.ACTUALLY HAD 3 GOOD YRS OUT OF THE LAST 20+.WE GOT A NEW COACH NOW(I HOPE),NEW CORDINATERS,SUPPOSED 2 GO 16-0 THIS YEAR,WIN SUPER BOWL AND NEVER LOOK BACK..GET WITH IT BCZ,HAVE SOME KOOL-AID.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Looks like Andre Johnson will sit out next game. Should we stack the box for Foster, and see what Shaub can do?
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DMAC,
what choice do we have?
Matt Schaub could still throw for 300+ and 3 TD’s to guys like:
David Anderson
Jacoby Jones
Kevin Walter
James Casey
Owen Daniels
Joel Dreessen
but our Run Defense under Chuck B and McClain is terrible. utterly disgusting
I think you plan (try to) shut down A.Foster and hope that the natural 4 man pressure is enough to beat the Houston O-Liners and rattle the QB
October 4th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Sell out to stop the run… if they beat us through the air so be it.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:38 am
We’re going to win the AFC West
-Hue Jackson
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Ummm, right now we’re tied for 2nd with Dungver. Right?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:38 am
No, Denver is 1-3 tied with KC
October 4th, 2011 at 6:42 am
Development of Rolando McClain and need to have him be a playmaker
Jackson: I think, Rolando has a responsibility. He’s making calls and doing all the things middle linebackers do. He’s really an extension of a defensive coordinator.
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LOL!
McClain is to MLB as Chuck B is to DC?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:43 am
Good morning fellas….that INT was on Hue cuz he shoulda ran the ball. JC had no biz throwing it becuz DHB just isnt a real WR. No way you can expect him to actually make a move towards the middle of the field after a play breaks down. Had that been Hagan we either have a tD or incompletion…still having a chance at the lead. Eventuually something gonna give
October 4th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Like Hue Jackson has said before also…The Time is NOW! I don;t care how we do it, we have to win a road game against a possible playoff contender!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:44 am
No, Denver is 1-3 tied with KC
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Really?
awesome!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Yup Denver lost again!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:46 am
time 4 work. later gents!
P.S.
nice to be tied for 1st in Dell’s FF league
my team has no depth though and it’s time for bye weeks to kick in, so i’ll probably be in last place when the playoff spots are awarded
October 4th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Bet not one person in here would have said that after 4 weeks we would have the best offensive line in football.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I loved the perfectly thrown pass to DHB down the sideline! The throw was unreal, hit him perfectly in stride between 2 defenders. DHB caught the ball in a dead sprint over the shoulder while hand fighting with the db, & another closing in on him. He ripped the ball away kept his feet then almost broke free up the field. This kid is coming on & he will be a big contributor. The fact that JC is looking him up even in double coverage shows the confidence & trust that they share. DHB now must be consistent, he has flashed ability, & shown improvement, the next step is to perform week after week.
You laughed when I pointed out how the jets showed respect for him by covering revis, you mocked him when we said he gets double covered. Looks like he will be doing the laughing soon.
There is noone in a raider uniform that can do what this kid does. As jc gets used to having Moore ford & DHB as his top targets this passing attack will be special. By next year we could be boasting the single most explosive wr group in the nfl!
Thank god hu jack & uncle AL know better than the idiots on this blog that wanted DHB gone. DHB is only 24 & he growing up before our eyes. Take pride nation, this is something you don’t want to miss
October 4th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Denarius Moore 12 199 16.6 2
Darrius Heyward-Bey 9 164 18.2 0
Something interesting!!!
Moore should be targeted more though…He already have 2 TD’s….how much does DHB have in 3 years?
Anyways…I root for DHB to get better, but where is his speed…I hope he goes on a burn streak! Make people miss and burn them for TD’s …Oh well…I can dream, can’t I?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Funny how the only 2 undefeated teams left are from the old Black and Blue Divsion…
October 4th, 2011 at 6:58 am
332.jugulator Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:33 am
Is McLain the Jamarcus on defense? He reminds me of Russell alot his demeanor, the lack of emotion …he sounds just like him, he seems not to have any fire in him..
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They are both from Alabama…maybe they are long lost brothaz who knows, the similarities are glaring, both dont like talking to the media, both play in slow motion on the field…
October 4th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Darren McFadden 75 468 6.2 3
Michael Bush 29 101 3.5 3
Almost 600 yards from our 2 headed monster after the first qtr of football…JC has almost 1000 yards passing…7th in points scored, 8th in yards, and still 1st in rushing!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Dmoore is far and away our best receiver. Its not even close. We didnt use him week one, but he has scored every week since.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:03 am
You’re right BCZ24…he does have 3 TD’s, but I guess that stat is for recieving…DHB getting on track, We should have the most explosive offense!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Anyways, if are D can even get close to the O’s ranking…We will make a run to the SB!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Mistique you are funny my man, I like DHB but he is not a playmaker. Al and Hue are not in on this together. Hue only plays DHB cuz of the mandate. Al is the man, but he can make a mistake now and then. DHB is one of them. DHB is a project. We need playmakers, like Moore and Ford and Hagan.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Damn shame that Vontaze Burfict will be gone before the Raiders draft.
There’s an inside ‘backer who plays with all the fire and passion you could ever want. At least in attitude, he reminds me of Ray Lewis (not saying he’ll be as good as Lewis)
RoMac to the strongside, Burfict in the middle, Shaughnessy to LDE and Wimbley to RDE…man, that has possibilities.
Al would have to trade up to get him, though, but he doesn’t have a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick. Not much ammunition to fire there to move up.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:18 am
The more I ponder, the more I think the Raiders are trying to put a square peg in a round hole by putting RoMac at MLB.
Excerpt from an old scouting report I dug up:
“I really don’t think McClain is a 4-3 inside linebacker. The speed and lateral range just isn’t there for me, and I think he would be exposed because he will overpursue gaps. …His best fits are at 3-4 inside linebacker and 4-3 strongside linebacker.”
That’s all pretty much coming true.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Hue Jackson: “We are going to win the AFC West”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 4, 2011, 10:13 AM EDT
Hue Jackson, Chad Ochocinco AP
At a time when Rex Ryan is cutting back on the rah rah rhetoric, Raiders coach Hue Jackson has taken a page out of the Ryan motivational playbook.
When you get knocked down, ramp up the confidence to new levels. And throw in a bold quasi-guarantee.
“We’re not backing down from what the expectation is here by no stretch of the imagination. It’s not going to change,” Jackson said. “We’re going to win the AFC West. We’re going to do everything we can to get in the playoffs and go challenge for a Super Bowl. I am not backing down from that.”
The manner in which the Raiders have reached 2-2 actually makes us believe Jackson. Oakland’s effort was highly inconsistent in recent years. They could beat playoff teams, but lose to anyone.
Despite the 2-2 record, Oakland has played hard each week. Their run game has been steady. They only played one team they clearly “should” beat and handled Denver rather easily.
The tough early schedule continues this week in Houston. After that, they host the Browns, Chiefs, and Broncos. That gives Oakland a chance to get to the halfway mark at 5-3 and right in the mix of what should be a two-team AFC West race with San Diego.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
This number one receiver bit is over used & means nothing for this offense. JC has a propensity to spread the ball around. Just be ready when he looks you up. Moore number 1? Ok but who cares. No wr should see the field more than our top 3 playmakers ford Moore & DHB!
DHB couldn’t catch or run routs when he got here & maybe the most improved player on our team. His arrival means you can’t simply roll coverage to Moore or ford.
I told you that the deep pass to him vs new Orleans in preseason put the NFL on notice, as did the near miss on Denver. Now you see I was right. Teams put there best & fastest db on him play way off of him fearing missing a jam at the line and getting smoked, or they double cover him.
His double move is becoming a thing of beauty, he absolutely undressed cromartie with one & forced an interference call. He may lead the league interference calls by years end. He will post about 60 catches 800 yards 4-6 tds.
Book it
October 4th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I’m probably the only one in this blog that is of the opinion that everyone has jumped the gun a little bit on the WR’s.
Moore will not be a top flight receiver until next year, maybe even his 3rd year.
Hagan is nothing more than a #3 or 4 receiver on any other team.
Schillenz is nothing more than a possession type WR and a #3 or 4 on any other team.
Jacoby’s progress has been hampered by injuries.
DHB might not make the roster on at least 30 other teams.
I think after 4 games, this is the fairest assessment for the WR play so far.
This is why the running game is so important. Boss is the best receiver on the field at all times and needs to be the focal point of the passing game.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:26 am
Currently there are only 6 money Qbs in the NFL then there are all the others. Flacco aint money yet. Sanchez isnt. Fitzpatrick isnt. Bradford isnt. cutler isnt. Freeman isnt yet. AIG’s bs list is trash and he has no credibility becuz he in springtime talked u matt Cassell as if he was a good qb lol. also AIG is a coward. after Jhill embarrassed him he barely posts and uses excuses for it hahahahaha. Let me guess AIG you have a life? No you live in memphis
October 4th, 2011 at 7:30 am
What do you guys think would have happened if we chose MegaTron over JaMarcus?
October 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
JR77…on this team Hagan should be the 1 Moore 2 and Ford the 3…….any other way of thinking is weak and stuid….fk DHB
October 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:30 am
What do you guys think would have happened if we chose MegaTron over JaMarcus?
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I thought about it once, but then I broke down sobbing and drank myself to sleep.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I said it before and I’ll say it again – the game looked too big for our team. The Raiders didn’t dig deep when the chips were down-(read interception) I think if just a few things had went a different way the game would have turned out way different. Soup needed to rally the troops after that first interception and he didn’t. That’s probably my only comlaint with his game on Sunday.
Any pass thrown to DHB is a waisted play. He should be benched and until stick’em gets added back to the game, he should stay there. Nice problem to have, is too many really good recievers!
Secondary isn’t letting us go anywhere as it’s playing right now. Defensive line doesn’t look dominant against even average offensive line players. Not so much the NE game because Alice from the Brady Bunch gets rid of the ball so quickly. Everytime they got close he’d just throw it at someone, who’d catch it.
They want to show their confedence in RoMac a young player who’s development they don’t want to stunt, I get it, and we are going to have to live with it until the coaching staff gives up, he gets hurt, or they draft(aquire) a new player for that posistion.
Win the AFC west? Maybe, but that shouldn’t be this dang hard. One of the weakest divisions in football.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Raider On High Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Mistique you are funny my man, I like DHB but he is not a playmaker. Al and Hue are not in on this together. Hue only plays DHB cuz of the mandate. Al is the man, but he can make a mistake now and then. DHB is one of them. DHB is a project. We need playmakers, like Moore and Ford and Hagan.
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He has made plays every chance he has had THIS year. I don’t know but making crucial catches for first downs to seal the game in Denver, & a 58 yard catch in double coverage says playmaker to me.
You have no proof of any so called mandates from Al not is there any thing that backs up your conspiracy theory about hue not wanting dhb. In fact the opposite is true. Hu jack & Saunders are on record with their belief in the kid & their passion to help him succeed.
The game tape this year now validates DHB’s roster spot & playing time.
Moore is a rookie, learning on the fly unfair to think he can carry the load alone. Ford has been injured & as we saw last year takes a couple of games to het going on a consiteny basis. Want proof see his 2 drops he has already. Hagan can’t do what dhb does, he I’d strictly a posseion guy.
DHB is big as hagan, fast as Moore & ford. Rare attributes indeed.
Although you day he isn’t a playmaker actual 2011 game film says otherwise.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Stupid*
October 4th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Not good for Huejax to have his expectations as high as “to challenge for the super bowl.” I can’t blame him for his bravado, but he needs to be more realistic and hit the ground.
This team is good enough to compete in the league right now, but there are way too many weaknesses in this team’s defense right now to be talking about winning the AFC West or making the playoffs as a wild card. The team would need to win 8 of the next 12, to even have a chance at 10-6.
HueJax should set shorter sights and focus on next game up. The Texans look like they will win the AFC South, and they have a much stronger team even without Johnson than the Raiders. The Texans mauled Roethlisberger and basically stopped the Steelers cold, this will be a major test for the Raiders OL, Campbell, and Hue. Let’s hope Seymour does have a breakout game and the defense steps up, but the offense will be have a tough day.
Beating the Jets doesn’t look as good as did last week, seeing how the Ravens took them apart. Petering out against the patsies didn’t help either. Patrick Chung just gave thanks to Campbell.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Good morning Raider fans and others… I saw on BSPN last night that after last week Soup is rated 10th with the new QBR rating… interesting
October 4th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Mistic…wrong DHB isnt an nFL wr….no way no how. Sitting at the game you watch his moves and how he catches….not a starting caliber player no way. DHB is 6′2 220 but plays muuch smaller
October 4th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Actually game tae from Denver,NYJ and last game shows why he needs to be our 4th WR as of now Mistic
October 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I don’t think DHB is a “playmaker” by any means. D Moore on the other hand certainly is.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Mistic…wrong DHB isnt an nFL wr….no way no how. Sitting at the game you watch his moves and how he catches….not a starting caliber player no way. DHB is 6′2 220 but plays muuch smaller
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Well then what does that make 6′4, 225 Chaz Schillens?
To me he plays like he’s 5′8, 185
October 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am
372, I would agree with that depth chart, however people need to lower their expectations on any of the 5 WR’s production. This team does not have a true #1 receiver on the roster. We have a bunch of #3’s. Boss is a top 5 TE and we have the best pass catching RB’s. Boss, McFadden, Reece and Bush need to be the focal point of the passing game and Moore, Hagan and Ford and occassionally Chaz should get some looks to keep defenses honest.
Hagan, DHB and Chaz should never be targeted in the red zone period
October 4th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Zopi….how many teams go on the road in bmore and win? Thanks
October 4th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Chaz schilens isnt aart of this convo is he? Im talking how DHB shouuld be demoted and how he is wasting snaps for us
October 4th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Apart*
October 4th, 2011 at 7:45 am
JR77…please stop posting. You just said Hagan shouldnt be targeted in endzone? Pplease give us your pitiful explanation so I can slice and dice it in half
October 4th, 2011 at 7:45 am
PlunkforHOF Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Good morning Raider fans and others… I saw on BSPN last night that after last week Soup is rated 10th with the new QBR rating… interesting
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Yes and I believe before this past week with the 2 INT’s he was the No. 1 QB in that rating system. I was shocked when I saw that sometime last week, before last game.
Mr efficient and careful makes one huge gaff and now everyone is complaining about the costly mistakes Campbell “Always” makes on the radio right now. Are people watching the same game as me? He hardly ever makes those kind of mistakes! I thought the knock on him was that he was Mr Checkdown and Mr cautious? Now he makes one blunder and he’s Mr turnover?
Which one is it?????
People are so inconsistent. Watch the games and then come back with an informed opinion! Dont just throw crap against the wall because you dont know what else to say!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Morning nation!
Still talking QB’s? This just in, Campbell is our QB for the remainder of the season.
Now back to tearing apart mcclames game.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Also, I’d even ease up on McClain. The guy is playing MLB behind two pass-rushing DTs. What exactly do you expect?
You were disappointed in EVERY MLB that’s been here since the Sam Adams, John Parrella, Ted Washington middle-cloggers.
The DTs make the MLB! Even Ray Lewis was average for a year or two before they brought in Ngata to keep people off him.
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Brother Alex speaks the truth!
Also, the Raiders use their MLB in different ways than most teams, especially the Ravens.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:50 am
387, YES I said it…after watching him on sunday, not only should he not be targeted in the end zone, he should not be on an NFL roster, everyone was on his B*ll Sack in preseason but I have seen enough to convince me that he is just another Alvis Whitted out there. He is just too slow plain and simple. Talk to me after week 17 when he has ZERO TD’s you POS moron
October 4th, 2011 at 7:51 am
And JR77 chaz has pissed me off but in his career has he not got redzone TDs? Tampa 08, Pitt and Denver 09…last year chiefs….stop posting if your facts are off
October 4th, 2011 at 7:51 am
366.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:18 am
The more I ponder, the more I think the Raiders are trying to put a square peg in a round hole by putting RoMac at MLB.
Excerpt from an old scouting report I dug up:
“I really don’t think McClain is a 4-3 inside linebacker. The speed and lateral range just isn’t there for me, and I think he would be exposed because he will overpursue gaps. …His best fits are at 3-4 inside linebacker and 4-3 strongside linebacker.”
That’s all pretty much coming true.
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He’s too slow to overpursue gaps.
I didn’t know much about this guy when we drafted him but remember hearing he was slow, slow, slow. Has the size but doesn’t seem to tackle like it. Also he could overcome the lack of speed with better anticipation but I’ve only seen that a handful of times, and it was last season.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Well, I for one think we need to look a lot closer at the team with the number 1 defense. They are number 1 for a reason!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:53 am
JR77 you just compared Hagan to Alvis Whitted?? Wow dude, you might want to rethink that one.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:54 am
JR77…hagan knows how to run routes and read defenses….you dont know schit about football if you think that guy doesnt need to be targeted in redzone with those attributes. How fast do you need to be in red zone? U dummy!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Yes I know the conversation was about DHB but when I jumped on the blog and the first thing I noticed was someone complaining about a Raider player playing smaller than his frame, the first person that comes to mind to me is Chaz. Thats been bothering me for a long time that we have a guy with the frame to be a jump ball threat on fade routes, etc and that’s not even a thought in the redzone because he doenst play to his size.
Anyone ever notice how at the LOS he bends in half and makes himself look like he’s 5′8 instead of 6′4? That guy annoys me.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Who is the #1 Defense so far?
October 4th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Bengals? The #1 Defense? I’m confused,… did I just google that wrong? LOL!!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:56 am
392, talk to me after week 17 and update me on both Hagan’s and Chaz’s stats, especially how many TD’s they have combined….
Lets see here, Megatron has 8 TD’s through a 1/4 of the season…I will bet the house that Hagan and Chaz will not have that many COMBINED by season’s end…anyone want to take me up on that??
October 4th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Carl…he Obviously doesnt know football….he juust said rbs and TE should be our focal point in pass game lol. Hagan is way better than Alvis whitted. Hagans uses his hands and runs routes…..idiot
October 4th, 2011 at 7:57 am
I’m happy that DHB is getting better but you almost don’t want to see him rack up yards in garbage time cause it’s gonna give coaching staff and/or Al Davis a bit of false hope.
He may be getting better but has no business getting that much playing time ahead of Hagan and Moore. DHB between the 20s only.
Kind of funnny that losing to Houston is a foregone conclusion though. Not many level heads and dry eyes here after Sunday.
Foster’s likely gonna get his. The story of the entire year for the D will be bend, don’t break and make like just one big play per game.
Offense has to be 200 MPH for 60 minutes for the next 12(+) games.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Alvis Whitted = DHB? that’s what I read!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Lets see here, Megatron has 8 TD’s through a 1/4 of the season…I will bet the house that Hagan and Chaz will not have that many COMBINED by season’s end…anyone want to take me up on that??
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No but Detroit has this weird philosophy of passing to their best WR. Not one that we share unfortunately.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:58 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:57 am
I’m happy that DHB is getting better but you almost don’t want to see him rack up yards in garbage time cause it’s gonna give coaching staff and/or Al Davis a bit of false hope.
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Had this same thought
October 4th, 2011 at 7:59 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Lets see here, Megatron has 8 TD’s through a 1/4 of the season…I will bet the house that Hagan and Chaz will not have that many COMBINED by season’s end…anyone want to take me up on that??
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No but Detroit has this weird philosophy of passing to their best WR. Not one that we share unfortunately.
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LMFAO. You win the day.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:00 am
DHB has 9 catches in 3 games with an 18 yard per catch average. He is right next to Moore in terms of on field production.
In the words of EPMD ” so watcha sayin”
October 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
I googled it too…The Bengals?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Lost in all of this debate about the defense, QB and WR, is that the guy the Patriots drafted (Nate Solder, RT) with the pick we traded for Seymour, MASSIVELY OUTPLAYED Seymour on Sunday.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Or, “Unbelievable”!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:02 am
401, you dont need to know football to see know that Hagan, Chaz, DHB, Ford and for now Moore are not #1 WR’s
You dont need to be Bill Walsh to see Hagan & Chaz suck @ss period
And you will see that at least 60 % of the time, JC will be targeting the TE’s and RB’s for that very reason
October 4th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Actually, total D…yup! According to nfl.com…It is the Bengals!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Hagan sucks hahahahaha? JR77 i actually feel bad for you. Usually eople try to hide their mental shortcomings but not you!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Now I’m going to have to watch them to see if we can do anything different! (Because I’m sure the Raiders, and Coach Davis read everything I post! LOL
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October 4th, 2011 at 8:07 am
dumbass Junior77……how many times did JC target rbs and TEs in the Buffalo game? Thanks for whippppin your own argument lmao….mental midgets should stop now
October 4th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Come on people, Moore didn’t get a’s many targets because the defense made him a focal point. So jc had to go elsewhere. With DHB & ford now ready to take on defined roles the defense won’t be able to simply say take away Moore.
I know we have been hard on romac, when he makes mistakes it is easily noticed. However I see major improvement on his game too. If I’m not mistaken he leads the team in tackles & is near the team leaf in passes defended. He was often the only lb on the field vs buffalo and the patsies. Still gets walled off to easily by linemen but he is making plenty of tackles near the Los, not just 10 yards down field like captain Kirk used to.
He needs to continue getting better but the entire front 7 must improve vs the run. Where is Houston Kelly & Seymour vs the run? The only front four guy that has been good against the run is 77
October 4th, 2011 at 8:09 am
413, what rationale can you possibly use to dissprove that statement…preseason, preseason??? you talking about preseason?? I feel bad for anyone who idolizes someone after seeing them catch passes in preseason
October 4th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Who on earth cares about DHB’s catch at the end of the game??
We were down 18 points with less than 2 minutes in the game!!!
Pats defenders were probably more interested with scheming on the Raiderette’s than what our offense was doing.
Not taking it away from DHB, he made the play and it goes on his football card, but come on already, that was garbage-time at it’s finest.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Ok, do you really think NE actually lets up even with 2 minutes left? I don’t…I have never seen a Bellichek team ease up with a 30 point lead and a minute to go!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:17 am
417.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:09 am
413, what rationale can you possibly use to dissprove that statement…preseason, preseason??? you talking about preseason?? I feel bad for anyone who idolizes someone after seeing them catch passes in preseason
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LOL to all the regulars in here….why do newbies try me? you know everytime I slice and dice em…..are yall reading his questions? Shall I go in on this dimwhitted fool or what?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:18 am
My expectations have been met so far by our team. We beat Denver, who we own…were a couple of plays from winning in Buffalo on a short week/early game. We beat the Jets down and if it wasnt for the poor tackling and run defense, we beat the Pats. Lady Brady had, compared to the previous weeks, a very pedestrian day passing. We definitely need to shore up the run defense and the poor tackling A.S.A.P. Can’t be a bully if you can’t tackle!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Junior 77 aka the blog’s special mental patient……We talking Hagan in regular season…no one mention preseason…your argument is stale. Watch his catches. He makes precise cuts in his routes at the right depth. He has ability to go over the field and recognize where to go into the zone
October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Mistic1, Stu led our team in tackles too, so whatcha sayin?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Junior 77 aka the blog’s special mental patient….a possession WR doesnt need to be fast. We have had so many top end burners and still no number 1 wr!. Hagan runs about a 4.5-4.6….perfect. Alot of times super fast guys still dont know how to make cuts and get open against the back 7 of a defense
October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Hasn’t the past 8 years proven that it is unreasonable to expect our run defense to improve?
After every poor run defense performance they talk about attitude and run fits being the problem. All this time they couldnt improve the run defense “Attitude”? I dont think so. ALl those guys are tough and wish to succeed out there. They’re not trying to fail all this time. It’s obvious that they simply cant do it with our defensive schemes. Its consistent with WHOEVER is out there on defense. Year after year.
It is obviously schematic and it’s not going to change under D_Coordinator Davis.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
420, I am not a newbie, just cuz I post here once in a blue moon and you spend all day and all night posting here does not make me a newbie, it makes me part of the white collar working class with an interesting social life for which you have strived for your whole pathetic miserable life….if you want someone to look up to, please don’t make it Hagan, a never-will WR who caught a few passes in preseason…look up to me, cuz I know you are devoid of a career and social life.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
JR77 is arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing he is saying is making any sense.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
7 of Hagan’s 10 catches have gone for first downs….isnt that moving the chains as a possession WR?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:24 am
426.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
420, I am not a newbie, just cuz I post here once in a blue moon and you spend all day and all night posting here does not make me a newbie, it makes me part of the white collar working class with an interesting social life for which you have strived for your whole pathetic miserable life….if you want someone to look up to, please don’t make it Hagan, a never-will WR who caught a few passes in preseason…look up to me, cuz I know you are devoid of a career and social life.
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Translation: I’m a newbie and I’m getting roasted badly by the B@uce
October 4th, 2011 at 8:26 am
HAHA the white collar crowd eh? Biggest crooks going yeah some level to look up to lmao.
When people say this…it highlights an elitist attitude that has further led the whole down the toilet
Messed up part is the white collars are generally smart….you are setting the bar low my friend
Oh and I have a social life…I’ll take your woman with ease cuz I know you aint punching the timecard correctly Junior
October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
it wasnt for the poor tackling and run defense, we beat the Pats.
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I guess that keeps the game closer but you really gotta hang that L on Jason.
Like I said, he had about 20 terrific plays (and I include plays where he dumps it off or throws it away because he’s making the right decisions) and two really, really bad ones.
Game is totally different if Jason doesn’t throw those two picks. Totally different if he doesn’t throw just one of them.
Still think he’s lightyears ahead if where he was last year and in years past. Just a bad day and he’ll be back to form in Houston.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Raiders lost because D Moore was under used. ….Period
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I watched the first play of the game again last night, thought I saw it live, but the TV announcers were in a rush so they blew past it.
Moore came racing back on an underthrown ball and made the catch between 2 defenders. That you have very easily been a pick 6 to start the game.
Moore really plays like a football player
October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
427.Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
JR77 is arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing he is saying is making any sense.
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I cannot believe people here are content with the production of a few never-wills, it just goes to show the sorry state of the position since Tim Brown and Jerry Rice were a tandem here
October 4th, 2011 at 8:28 am
LOL at 429.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:28 am
anhdazman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:56 am
Our defenders need to make ball carriers pay more for it when they’re running with the ball. …….. Physical Presence.
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Right now the most physical player on the team is the feature running back, McFadden, when he is about to be tackled he makes sure he dishes out a hard hit first.
Reminds me a little of Marcus Allen, but he had defenders on his teams that knew how to hit like Lott and Howie Long
October 4th, 2011 at 8:28 am
and you see Junior 77 is still hung up on preseason and no one has mentioned it but him….another sign he is losing bad….its typical what I do to newbies
October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 am
431.LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
it wasnt for the poor tackling and run defense, we beat the Pats.
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I guess that keeps the game closer but you really gotta hang that L on Jason.
Like I said, he had about 20 terrific plays (and I include plays where he dumps it off or throws it away because he’s making the right decisions) and two really, really bad ones.
Game is totally different if Jason doesn’t throw those two picks. Totally different if he doesn’t throw just one of them.
Still think he’s lightyears ahead if where he was last year and in years past. Just a bad day and he’ll be back to form in Houston.
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JC is a man about his…he easily could have thrown DHB under the bus when in essence its DHB’s goof up that caused that INT.
He will take the L and no doubt get the W this week
October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 am
433.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
427.Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
JR77 is arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing he is saying is making any sense.
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I cannot believe people here are content with the production of a few never-wills, it just goes to show the sorry state of the position since Tim Brown and Jerry Rice were a tandem here
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Tim Brown….damn Fairy Rice
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Raiders aint had a real WR tandem since the early 90s at the latest……those 2001 and 2002 years were dink and dunk crap…that schit aint real passing…its bullschit
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
430, your social life is this blog, you dont have time to take anyone out, you’d rather spend time here babbling about nonsense and praising never-will WR’s like hagan for making 3 catches for 30 yds and ZERO TD’s
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
432.Stabler76 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Raiders lost because D Moore was under used. ….Period
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I watched the first play of the game again last night, thought I saw it live, but the TV announcers were in a rush so they blew past it.
Moore came racing back on an underthrown ball and made the catch between 2 defenders. That you have very easily been a pick 6 to start the game.
Moore really plays like a football player
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And DHB cant
October 4th, 2011 at 8:33 am
anhdazman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:56 am
Our defenders need to make ball carriers pay more for it when they’re running with the ball. …….. Physical Presence.
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But they dont, they wont, and they cant, because they’re never in position to make this happen. The problem isn’t toughness.
They are always chasing and drag tackling at best. Never in position to lay any lumber.
Year after year. Player after player.
Remember how bad everyone hated Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard in here? Schwiegert? Same things are happening now as they were then.
And the next guy, and the next guy….on and on.
D_Coordinator Davis.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Obviously.
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# Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 am
7 of Hagan’s 10 catches have gone for first downs….isnt that moving the chains as a possession WR?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am
440.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
430, your social life is this blog, you dont have time to take anyone out, you’d rather spend time here babbling about nonsense and praising never-will WR’s like hagan for making 3 catches for 30 yds and ZERO TD’s
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Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnn I live in California….its way too easy to have a social life…..that is nothing but a pitiful excuse to try and deflect the ass whippin I’m giving you. If you look back alllllll the way thru since I started on this in April of 08 on weekends I’m not heavy posting on here nor do I post deep into the night…..you are like a woman just saying schit just to be saying it with no factual evidence at all…..and BZies take me out. I’m the commodity that is of value. Women outnumber men you dummy
October 4th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Junior 77<———–same idiot who said Hagan was like Alvis Whitted…..that is definite proof you dont know schit at all
October 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Notice Junior 77 has no answer or rebuttal for 70 pct of Hagan’s catches going for first downs?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Junior 77 said Hagan and Whitted are the same….yet Hagan is slower, bigger, can run routes and has hands while Whitted was fast as hell, couldnt run a route and had awful hands……great observation Junior 77….maybe comcast can hire you to do post game ANALysis
October 4th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Should be Hagan, Ford, Moore out there all the time.
DHB and Chaz to spell.
People who don’t appreciate Hagan need to recognize. We need guys like him on this team. Hard-nosed, hard worker, move the chains. Even on punt coverage.
You guys see that play he made on ‘teams to keep the punt out of the endzone?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:40 am
425.daraider09 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Hasn’t the past 8 years proven that it is unreasonable to expect our run defense to improve?
After every poor run defense performance they talk about attitude and run fits being the problem. All this time they couldnt improve the run defense “Attitude”? I dont think so. ALl those guys are tough and wish to succeed out there. They’re not trying to fail all this time. It’s obvious that they simply cant do it with our defensive schemes. Its consistent with WHOEVER is out there on defense. Year after year.
It is obviously schematic and it’s not going to change under D_Coordinator Davis.
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Run defense under Bresnahan:
2000-5th
2001-22nd
2002-3rd
2003-32nd
Same system, different players and great run defense in 2000 and 2002 under Bres.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:41 am
It was only 12-15 months ago all this offense needed was Chaz to get healthy and LOOKOUT!
Einsteins…lol
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
To all you band wagon Hagan lovers. I was pumping this guy up from day one. I was the original fan to say he would be like Tim Brown on steroids wearing that #80. The guy gets open does not drop balls and moves the chains.
I am happy DHB had an OK game. He still dropped two easy catches. One the refs bailed him out with that illegal hit to the head call. Second, he blew an easy third down catch. He still fights the ball to much when making a catch but it was better than nothing.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
439.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Raiders aint had a real WR tandem since the early 90s at the latest……those 2001 and 2002 years were dink and dunk crap…that schit aint real passing…its bullschit
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That’s the funnies schit ive hear in awhile here…what tandem are you referring to in the early 90’s??????
Willie Gault and Mervin Fernandez????
Sam Graddy and James Jett????
Alexander Wright and Toy Rocket Ismail????
You just flushed yourself and any credibility down the toilet…this is the most ignant dumcschit argument i have ever heard of
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Who is Chaz?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
448.LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Should be Hagan, Ford, Moore out there all the time.
DHB and Chaz to spell.
People who don’t appreciate Hagan need to recognize. We need guys like him on this team. Hard-nosed, hard worker, move the chains. Even on punt coverage.
You guys see that play he made on ‘teams to keep the punt out of the endzone?
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Of course they should be our starters. Anyone arguing isn’t watching. Hagan was a great aquisition. Veteran WR that busts his ass and is a leader by example.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Anyone who says Denarious Moore isn’t a #1 receiver isn’t watching the kid play… This guy will be on the Andre/Calvin Johnson level in 2-3 years. Megatron? We got our own… GALVATRON!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
452.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
439.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Raiders aint had a real WR tandem since the early 90s at the latest……those 2001 and 2002 years were dink and dunk crap…that schit aint real passing…its bullschit
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That’s the funnies schit ive hear in awhile here…what tandem are you referring to in the early 90’s??????
Willie Gault and Mervin Fernandez????
Sam Graddy and James Jett????
Alexander Wright and Toy Rocket Ismail????
You just flushed yourself and any credibility down the toilet…this is the most ignant dumcschit argument i have ever heard of
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Sorry about my spelling…I was laughing too hard
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
CJ, Tim Brown wore #81.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
DHB’s precision jagoff route running and lack of separation football allow him to get 1-2 PI calls thrown at the DB per game.
Folks you cant teach skills like this!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
452.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
439.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Raiders aint had a real WR tandem since the early 90s at the latest……those 2001 and 2002 years were dink and dunk crap…that schit aint real passing…its bullschit
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That’s the funnies schit ive hear in awhile here…what tandem are you referring to in the early 90’s??????
Willie Gault and Mervin Fernandez????
Sam Graddy and James Jett????
Alexander Wright and Toy Rocket Ismail????
You just flushed yourself and any credibility down the toilet…this is the most ignant dumcschit argument i have ever heard of
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Even past their prime Tim Brown and Jerry Rice sideline to sideline not bad.
Now wait a minute Tim Brown and Mervin Fernandez were not a bad tandom.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:45 am
We miss you Travis Goethel!!..
October 4th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Oh I cringe at the Jay Schroeder days. Me and my bro’s always refer to a interception prone QB, as having a bad case of the “Shroeder’s”. Haha
October 4th, 2011 at 8:45 am
457.Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
CJ, Tim Brown wore #81.
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D@mn how could I forget that. You caught me slippin Carl. I hope I don’t get my Raider pass revoked.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Someone put out a missing persons report for one Kam Wimbley..
October 4th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Hagan is every bit the blocker as DHB as well.
We can drop that whole “great blocker” thing for DHB (which admittadly I was a big part of) as we picked up a guy off the street who can block just as well.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am
461.MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Oh I cringe at the Jay Schroeder days. Me and my bro’s always refer to a interception prone QB, as having a bad case of the “Shroeder’s”. Haha
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LOL!!! Yeah, we did too. Shroeder could bring tears to your eyes. We use to scream at the TV on 3rd and 10 forget the pass give the ball to BO. We thought are chances were better on a run than an INT.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am
CJ, I’ll let it slide since the post was a good one!
I wonder what happens with Murphy when he gets healthy?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am
I was one of the few who spoke up about Kam’s contract being way out of whack.
Should have never franchised him. That was a terrible mistake.
He is a one-trick pony, who will have a 3 sack game, than zero sacks for the next month and a half.
Terrible in run defense as well.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Id rather have Mike Mitchell at LB.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Junior 1990 was the last time we had any real threat as a WR group….2001 and 2002 was dink and dunk schit….thats not football thats coward schit
October 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Now wait a minute Tim Brown and Mervin Fernandez were not a bad tandom.
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Yeah, compared to the other above mentioned tandems they looked like the greatest show on turf…
The only WR tandem for the Raiders that was any good in the early nineties (After 1993)was:
Tim Brown and Tim Brown
October 4th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Galvatron…I like it! That is also a drink consisting of Patron, Makers Mark, and 151…pretty deadly after 2…
October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Mike Mitchell at LB against the Colts last year was a complete and utter disaster.
Not fair to give up on it completely after one game against Peyton Manning, but I also wouldn’t blame the staff for scrapping it either.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
We should be kicking tires on a number of LB’s, but were not. Were gonna let Groves/McClain/Wimbley continue to not fill gaps, not make tackles, not make plays and cost us more games.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
459.CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
452.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
439.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Raiders aint had a real WR tandem since the early 90s at the latest……those 2001 and 2002 years were dink and dunk crap…that schit aint real passing…its bullschit
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That’s the funnies schit ive hear in awhile here…what tandem are you referring to in the early 90’s??????
Willie Gault and Mervin Fernandez????
Sam Graddy and James Jett????
Alexander Wright and Toy Rocket Ismail????
You just flushed yourself and any credibility down the toilet…this is the most ignant dumcschit argument i have ever heard of
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Even past their prime Tim Brown and Jerry Rice sideline to sideline not bad.
Now wait a minute Tim Brown and Mervin Fernandez were not a bad tandom.
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1990….Fernandez,Gault and Brown did just fine
October 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
474, lay of the CRACK pipe while you still have a connection between your last two working brain cells please
October 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
470.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Now wait a minute Tim Brown and Mervin Fernandez were not a bad tandom.
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Yeah, compared to the other above mentioned tandems they looked like the greatest show on turf…
The only WR tandem for the Raiders that was any good in the early nineties (After 1993)was:
Tim Brown and Tim Brown
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I’m talking 1990 was the last time we had any real threat at WR….dont tell me two old fools damn near 40 were real threats…thats a joke
October 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
475.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
474, lay of the CRACK pipe while you still have a connection between your last two working brain cells please
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HAHAHAHA you gotta be kidding me
October 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Giordano needs to be cut, like 2 weeks ago!
Runs slow, reacts slow, takes bad angles.
He had a nice INT in the opener. ok.
DARREN SHARPER!!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Jay did bring tears to my eyes (I was just a kid) lol…It was the game we played a year or 2 after we got our ass handed to us up in Buffalo 51-3. He was tossing interceptions and Scott Norwood was missing field goals to keep us in the game but Shroeder still eff’ed it up.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll300/A02U_1_20110422_0921e6e6-9dc7-489d-aa26-f130235afa1b899272.jpg
Remember that?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:57 am
we need to look out for Owen Daniels, he is clearly the primary target now that Andre Johnson is out!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:57 am
The bungles defense might be the best in yards allowed but they’ve played the browns, donks and niners.
The Ravens D is the best in the league right now, period.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:57 am
In first half of the Pats/Raiders games, I do know how the Pats get away with there pass protection technique without getting more holding calls. Several offensive linemen have one hand& arm in front of the rushing D-linemen and the other hand& arm over the shoulder to control the rusher or one hand& arm in front & one arm around the back of the rusher to control them. That technique is border line holding just from that stand point along!!!! If you compare it to The Raiders linemen they must keep their hands in front of the player and as soon as they stray for that technique the Refs are quick to throw the flag for holding.If you notice in the second half when the game with pretty much out reach the Pats offensive linemen did not use the technique they got away with the first half. They kept their hands in first of D-linemen. I would really like someone like Bill Romanowski to explain the technique that the Pats linemen where using in the first have of the game on his show and explain if this technique is more prone to get a holding call or not.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:58 am
476.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
470.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Now wait a minute Tim Brown and Mervin Fernandez were not a bad tandom.
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Yeah, compared to the other above mentioned tandems they looked like the greatest show on turf…
The only WR tandem for the Raiders that was any good in the early nineties (After 1993)was:
Tim Brown and Tim Brown
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I’m talking 1990 was the last time we had any real threat at WR….dont tell me two old fools damn near 40 were real threats…thats a joke
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Both made the PRO BOWL in 01 and 02 ya idi@t
October 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
We should be kicking tires on a number of LB’s, but were not.
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Who is “we”? And what linebackers out there are better than what the Raiders have?
Any LB still on the market at this point is probably either just as much of a scrub as Quentin Groves, or is an aging veteran who will be burned constantly because the Raiders leave their LBs in man coverage against WRs, TEs, and RBs.
The scheme the Raiders run is VERY unfriendly to LBs, and even the ones they have are very poor scheme fits. Converted defensive ends at OLB, and a 3-4 ILB at MLB. They need WAY more speed and athleticism at those positions, not to mention better instincts and the ability to shed blocks and stop cutback runs (even with an OG running free past the LOS).
Not easy to find guys with that skill set. The Raiders definitely can’t just pick anyone off the street four games into the season and expect them to do that job any better than the guys they have.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Lost in all of this debate about the defense, QB and WR, is that the guy the Patriots drafted (Nate Solder, RT) with the pick we traded for Seymour, MASSIVELY OUTPLAYED Seymour on Sunday.
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Brother JFB speaks the truth!
Big Sey was paying old debts to the Pats, by sabotaging our Raiders! Why else would that fool play so poorly?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Giordano is on the “Cal-Bear & only Italian guy on team” scholarship with me.
But if he were limited to ST duties, I wouldn’t be mad.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:03 am
483.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:58 am
476.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
470.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Now wait a minute Tim Brown and Mervin Fernandez were not a bad tandom.
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Yeah, compared to the other above mentioned tandems they looked like the greatest show on turf…
The only WR tandem for the Raiders that was any good in the early nineties (After 1993)was:
Tim Brown and Tim Brown
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I’m talking 1990 was the last time we had any real threat at WR….dont tell me two old fools damn near 40 were real threats…thats a joke
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Both made the PRO BOWL in 01 and 02 ya idi@t
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Man that pro bowl schit is lame….always has been…and Rice didnt make pro bowl in 01 and brown didnt make it in 02…..dummy…I WIN you LOSE…how is that for brain cells?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:04 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
We should be kicking tires on a number of LB’s, but were not.
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Who is “we”? And what linebackers out there are better than what the Raiders have?
Any LB still on the market at this point is probably either just as much of a scrub as Quentin Groves, or is an aging veteran who will be burned constantly because the Raiders leave their LBs in man coverage against WRs, TEs, and RBs.
The scheme the Raiders run is VERY unfriendly to LBs, and even the ones they have are very poor scheme fits. Converted defensive ends at OLB, and a 3-4 ILB at MLB. They need WAY more speed and athleticism at those positions, not to mention better instincts and the ability to shed blocks and stop cutback runs (even with an OG running free past the LOS).
Not easy to find guys with that skill set. The Raiders definitely can’t just pick anyone off the street four games into the season and expect them to do that job any better than the guys they have.
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Like Ike, and Barton? Or how bout Seron Pierson? Sam Williams? Thomas freaking Howard? Kirk Morrison?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Giordano = Stu Schweigert X 0.01
October 4th, 2011 at 9:04 am
486.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Giordano is on the “Cal-Bear & only Italian guy on team” scholarship with me.
But if he were limited to ST duties, I wouldn’t be mad.
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LMAO….bias I see
October 4th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Same thing against the Bills… Raiders got plenty of pressure, but pressure doesn’t mean much when the QB can make a three step drop and immediately find a wide-open receiver. And it definitely doesn’t help when the defense is getting gouged by inside runs because the defense plays with zero gap discipline.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Vegas,
Yeah, Kam was great when he was a steal. Now he’s overpaid. At least that dude is serious and not a punk but I’d like to see him develop more than one move. He does have a great position coach. Or does he? I don;t know if he puts his hand in the dirt enough to have Wauffle coach him full time but I’m sure he has input.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:40 am
425.daraider09 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Hasn’t the past 8 years proven that it is unreasonable to expect our run defense to improve?
After every poor run defense performance they talk about attitude and run fits being the problem. All this time they couldnt improve the run defense “Attitude”? I dont think so. ALl those guys are tough and wish to succeed out there. They’re not trying to fail all this time. It’s obvious that they simply cant do it with our defensive schemes. Its consistent with WHOEVER is out there on defense. Year after year.
It is obviously schematic and it’s not going to change under D_Coordinator Davis.
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Run defense under Bresnahan:
2000-5th
2001-22nd
2002-3rd
2003-32nd
Same system, different players and great run defense in 2000 and 2002 under Bres.
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Pass defense:
2000 – 25th
2002 – 23rd
There’s always a tradeoff.
The difference and the point I’m making is that those teams (especially 2002) made big plays when necessary. They still allowed their fair share of big plays.
They also had hall of fame calibur OLD veterans on those teams.
Well, for consistent success you need a scheme that can sustain when you dont have hall of famers on your roster. That’s not always going to be the case. In fact its not the case for most teams.
Look at teams like Pittsburg. You’re telling me that every single linebacker they draft is that good? NO, they just do a better job of putting those players in position to make plays than the Raiders do. They attack the LOS with discipline and aggression.
It is a different defensive philosophy they go by. Raiders play read and react defense. They dont take the game to the offense. It’s been that way for as long as I can remember.
I know what the idea behind it is, but unfortunately with the increase of passing in the league and spread you out offenses, it just isn’t caught up with the times anymore.
You cant depend on having 11 pro bowlers on defense at once, because that’s basically what it takes for our defensive philosophy to succeed with any consistency.
They are basically saying ‘nobody make any mistakes because if ONE person messes up, its a 50 yard TD.’
October 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Like Ike, and Barton? Or how bout Seron Pierson? Sam Williams? Thomas freaking Howard? Kirk Morrison?
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Yep. All guys who might be average NFL linebackers but looked TERRIBLE in Oakland.
It’s nearly impossible to consistently find LBs who can do what the Raiders expect of them. Kam Wimbley v.s. Vernon Davis? Groves v.s. LT? Ridiculous.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Thomas Howard is the starting WLB for the Benglas.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I liked him, I think he could have still been a n asset on this team…
October 4th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Howard was the closest thing the Raiders have found in years to a scheme fit, but the run defense as a whole as so poor that Howard’s skill set was almost entirely negated. And even he wasn’t a consistent tackler.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Both made the PRO BOWL in 01 and 02 ya idi@t
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Man that pro bowl schit is lame….always has been…and Rice didnt make pro bowl in 01 and brown didnt make it in 02…..dummy…I WIN you LOSE…how is that for brain cells?
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I know that, doesn’t matter, I am trying to use as little key strokes as possible to prove your stupidity and only a few are needed…
Tim Brown = 9 time Pro Bowler
Jerry Rice = 10 time Pro Bowler
I would implore you to stop embarrassing yourself any further please
October 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I think our offense is good and on the verge of being great. We can get by with a mediocre defense. Now the defense just has to rise up and become mediocre.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Texans are rated 10th on Defense & Offense.
We gotta load up on the run on both sides of the ball. Get some momentum on the ground and hit em with DMoore deep on PA.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
raiderkoolaid Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I think our offense is good and on the verge of being great. We can get by with a mediocre defense. Now the defense just has to rise up and become mediocre.
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Fully accurate post. Most sense anyone has made all day.
Offense = borderline great
Defense = despicable
October 4th, 2011 at 9:16 am
498.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Both made the PRO BOWL in 01 and 02 ya idi@t
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Man that pro bowl schit is lame….always has been…and Rice didnt make pro bowl in 01 and brown didnt make it in 02…..dummy…I WIN you LOSE…how is that for brain cells?
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I know that, doesn’t matter, I am trying to use as little key strokes as possible to prove your stupidity and only a few are needed…
Tim Brown = 9 time Pro Bowler
Jerry Rice = 10 time Pro Bowler
I would implore you to stop embarrassing yourself any further please
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That makes no sense….so you said a completely false statement about Rice and Brown both making the pro bowl to use a key strokes against me? Nah bruh you not fooling us. Stop trying to back peddal…you got caught red handed on a lie and now wanna use Rice and Brown number of pro bowls total? That wasnt the point at all….like I said you are just like a woman
October 4th, 2011 at 9:17 am
i’m not embarrassing myself….you compared Hagan to Whitted and also said Brown and Rice both made pro bowl in 2001 and 2002…..maybe you should stop posting….this is a massacre what I’m doing to you
October 4th, 2011 at 9:18 am
There is some good parts on our defense. The defensive line is good, and with eight good players they can keep rotating them and keep them fresh. I think when Huff, Branch, and Mitchell are all healthy we are pretty decent at safety, and we are decent at one corner with some young players who have a chance to become good also in the secondary. There are enough good parts there to at least be halfway decent.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:20 am
It is a different defensive philosophy they go by. Raiders play read and react defense. They dont take the game to the offense. It’s been that way for as long as I can remember.
I know what the idea behind it is, but unfortunately with the increase of passing in the league and spread you out offenses, it just isn’t caught up with the times anymore.
You cant depend on having 11 pro bowlers on defense at once, because that’s basically what it takes for our defensive philosophy to succeed with any consistency.
They are basically saying ‘nobody make any mistakes because if ONE person messes up, its a 50 yard TD.’
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Lots of truth here.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:20 am
The defense turns in a couple of really impressive performances per year, even on the worst of Raider teams over the last few years.
Frankly, that’s all we really need this year.
I posted yesterday that we will win some shootouts, steal a game or two, and blow a game or two.
The defense has the potential but they have to play rabbid on every snap.
Offense will have to carry us this year and can’t afford to make many mistakes, if any.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:21 am
497.YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Howard was the closest thing the Raiders have found in years to a scheme fit, but the run defense as a whole as so poor that Howard’s skill set was almost entirely negated. And even he wasn’t a consistent tackler.
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He was a liability vs. the run at times but for his size he could fly and cover.
Crazy that on a team with so much speed and a team that has always coveted speed, we are grilling our MLB because he’s too slow! How did Al draft this guy? I’m still holding out hope that he gets better, from what we hear about the film study and the signs of promise he showed last year but time is ticking…
October 4th, 2011 at 9:22 am
We’ve seen the D play well and we’ve seen them play vomit-worthy.
Offense has to carry the team.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:22 am
LA,
Every time I see Kam try that shoulder-dip move, and he just gets shoved right out of the play, I got pretty damn pissed.
He is not THAT GOOD, to where he can make the same move over and over and be succesful week in and week out.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
McClain needs to grow up. He’s making JaMarshmallowesque statements out there.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
502, Please. The false statement was made by NONE other than your ignant azz for saying Brown and Rice were not a legitimate WR Tandem….Two combined pro bowls in 01-02, one SB appearance.
To say that the Willie Gault / Mervin Fernandez tandem
was better than the Brown / Rice tandem is just utter STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE talking by your last remaining functional brain cells.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Junior 77= One that has flown over the cuckoo’s nest
October 4th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:22 am
LA,
Every time I see Kam try that shoulder-dip move, and he just gets shoved right out of the play, I got pretty damn pissed.
He is not THAT GOOD, to where he can make the same move over and over and be succesful week in and week out.
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Agree 100%.
Kam could be nice. Has the tools. Unfortunately, lot of guys have passed through Alameda with same description.
They gotta have him watch some cut ups of the greats.
Watching the IND-PIT game 2 weeks ago and Freeney has his signature spin move, but you can see that he’s got others in his tool belt and used every one of them and got pressure all. night. long.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Method to My Ignorance just posted that Gault-Fernandez was better than Brown-Rice…GTFOOH
October 4th, 2011 at 9:27 am
511.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
502, Please. The false statement was made by NONE other than your ignant azz for saying Brown and Rice were not a legitimate WR Tandem….Two combined pro bowls in 01-02, one SB appearance.
To say that the Willie Gault / Mervin Fernandez tandem
was better than the Brown / Rice tandem is just utter STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE talking by your last remaining functional brain cells.
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Mental midget….you said BOTH made the pro bowl in 01 and 02…..that is pretty clear right there. You didnt diffierentiate at all then ran to their total pro bowls which shows you were losing this debate…as usual
Two old men are not a legit tandem for ever winning the big one lmao….never ever ever. Maybe if it was 6-7 years earlier then yes but no way at that time. They dinked and dunked. They werent going up the field….it was coward football
Last legit WR unit for us was in LA in 1990
October 4th, 2011 at 9:27 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Who on earth cares about DHB’s catch at the end of the game??
We were down 18 points with less than 2 minutes in the game!!!
Pats defenders were probably more interested with scheming on the Raiderette’s than what our offense was doing.
Not taking it away from DHB, he made the play and it goes on his football card, but come on already, that was garbage-time at it’s finest.
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Ridiculous.
1.) there is no garbage time for developing players. DHb is trying to carve out his nitche in nfl, every thing he does is vitaly important being that he was a number 1 pick for this team. We will all judge him based on his numbers when the year is over, he knows this all too well. Therfore he must continue to make plays and prove himself regardless of the defenders outloook on the scoreboard or game situation. He has made plays this year in the clutch, and the catch last week demonstarted an ability YOU said he didnt have.
2.) You dont know the difference between “big boy games” and “garbage time”, according to the way you have termed them. According to you the big divisional wins last year, and the late season victories against an eventual playoff team weren’t “big boy games”, but the 4th game of the regular season after the biggest home opener win in years is.
How could anyone trust anything you have to say?
Comical
October 4th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I was thinking how could we be so thin at LB?
Howard was let go, kirk traded when romac was drafted, Williams a ST’er, Ricky Brown a ST’er, Stryker Sulak, David Norris, Chris slade all drafted and released rather quickly.
We are left with a DE, 3-4 ILB & 3-4 OLB as our starting WLB, MLB & SLB. With a UFL’er a ST’er and a PS body as depth.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:29 am
514.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Method to My Ignorance just posted that Gault-Fernandez was better than Brown-Rice…GTFOOH
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I’m from Oakland and I know the 90 LA team was better than 2002….Bo got hurt week before buffalo game when game was basically over. No one was scared of Brown and Rice…thats why the Pats and Bucs played that coverage on them….duuuhhhrrrr you dummy
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
1990 Gault-Fernandez-Brown > 2002 Brown-Rice-Porter….by far
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
# Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Mistic1, Stu led our team in tackles too, so whatcha sayin?
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rolando is our number one pick middle line backer. This is important, even if he isnt where we want him yet, he is improving. Just like dmac, dhb, and others he needs time. We will know soon what kind of player he will be.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Dhb’s catch at the end of the game might help him forget that CLANG that hit him in the hands but dropped.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am
When the Raiders are on defense and they are facing 2 receivers to one side and the suspect crossing routes they had not tried a zone type scheme with the cornerback and the safety, taking the crossing receiver, in that situation that am aware of. In that situation, the Raiders may come away with a big interception play or a big hit possibly causing a fumble.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
519.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
1990 Gault-Fernandez-Brown > 2002 Brown-Rice-Porter….by far
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
518.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:29 am
514.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Method to My Ignorance just posted that Gault-Fernandez was better than Brown-Rice…GTFOOH
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I’m from Oakland and I know the 90 LA team was better than 2002….Bo got hurt week before buffalo game when game was basically over. No one was scared of Brown and Rice…thats why the Pats and Bucs played that coverage on them….duuuhhhrrrr you dummy
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I have to get back to my job while you can spend the rest of your day and night posting on this blog…
You keep clinging on the pro bowl comment, to say both made the pro bowl between 01-02 can be interpreted in different ways, however, you lack the mental fortitude to be able to interpret statements in different ways..
To say Gault / Fernandez (who BTW did not make the Pro Bowl as Raiders) were a better tandem than Brown / Rice is just a FALSE and ignorant comment which you keep arguing…
Just like you keep arguing that Hagan is a #1 WR…
Clearly you have lost both those arguments in any person’s mind who has an IQ above 80
October 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
523.neilb Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
519.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
1990 Gault-Fernandez-Brown > 2002 Brown-Rice-Porter….by far
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Hostetler throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:39 am
523.neilb Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
519.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
1990 Gault-Fernandez-Brown > 2002 Brown-Rice-Porter….by far
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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Look at the type of offense we ran though back then….way different than 2002
October 4th, 2011 at 9:39 am
525.Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
523.neilb Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
519.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
1990 Gault-Fernandez-Brown > 2002 Brown-Rice-Porter….by far
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Hostetler throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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woooooooooooooo exactly
October 4th, 2011 at 9:39 am
You dont know the difference between “big boy games” and “garbage time”, according to the way you have termed them. According to you the big divisional wins last year, and the late season victories against an eventual playoff team weren’t “big boy games”, but the 4th game of the regular season after the biggest home opener win in years is.
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It’s all about jockeying for playoff position.
The only game last year that would apply would be the first Chiefs game.
All those other wins, were meaningless, except to losers like Tom Cable and the whole “we are not losers anymore” crowd.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:40 am
rolando is our number one pick middle line backer. This is important, even if he isnt where we want him yet, he is improving. Just like dmac, dhb, and others he needs time. We will know soon what kind of player he will be.
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I already know what I need to when yesterday he said ‘I tackled well, but I haven’t watched the film yet to see who wasn’t'… You throw your team under the bus and you lose all credibility with me.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:40 am
daraider09 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
“It is a different defensive philosophy they go by. Raiders play read and react defense. They dont take the game to the offense. It’s been that way for as long as I can remember.”
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Great post and I totally agree with the above words. I’d love for Hue Davis to try and lure Winston Moss or Kevin Greene from the Packers next year and switch our D to a 3-4. McClain can go back to the position he played in Alabama and Seymour is accustomed to playing the 3-4 system in his days with the Pats. Trade out of the first rd, pick up a number 2 and maybe a 3 or 4…Go DT, OLB. Wishful thinking I guess!
Go Raiders
October 4th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Forgot about the Hoss.He had Tim and nothing else.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:43 am
524.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
518.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:29 am
514.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Method to My Ignorance just posted that Gault-Fernandez was better than Brown-Rice…GTFOOH
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I’m from Oakland and I know the 90 LA team was better than 2002….Bo got hurt week before buffalo game when game was basically over. No one was scared of Brown and Rice…thats why the Pats and Bucs played that coverage on them….duuuhhhrrrr you dummy
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I have to get back to my job while you can spend the rest of your day and night posting on this blog…
You keep clinging on the pro bowl comment, to say both made the pro bowl between 01-02 can be interpreted in different ways, however, you lack the mental fortitude to be able to interpret statements in different ways..
To say Gault / Fernandez (who BTW did not make the Pro Bowl as Raiders) were a better tandem than Brown / Rice is just a FALSE and ignorant comment which you keep arguing…
Just like you keep arguing that Hagan is a #1 WR…
Clearly you have lost both those arguments in any person’s mind who has an IQ above 80
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Yes get back to your job….discussing football just aint working out for ya….best thing you have said today
Actually I cleary one becuase I went deep into what a poss WR does and you had no rebuttal….you kept using preseason and no one except you used it! And you had no rebuttal for Hagan’s 7 first down…70 pct of his catches!
And making pro bowl means what? That some undeveloped footballl fans stuffed ballot boxes? come on stop it.
Gault and Fernandez were making plays up the field no dink and dunk chump variety. That’s why NE and TB beat us….old ass WRs was a joke
I clearly won because I can go in depth with my arguments you cant!
October 4th, 2011 at 9:43 am
I think we should trade Murphy to Seattle for Curry. Curry and McClain in the middle of a 3-4 wouldn’t be half bad, and I think Kam and Groves could benefit from that alignment as well. Then we just need a NT, and we are set, and we will have 43 DE’s to rotate as well.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:45 am
How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Hostetler throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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woooooooooooooo exactly
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Jerry Rice / Tim Brown = TWO HOF’ers
Willie Gault / Mervin = journeymen WR’s
Doesn’t matter if Montana or Elway was throwing to them….the fact remains your are arguing that two journeymen WR’s are better than two HOF’ers…
Stop making insane stupid arguments please.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:47 am
The Raiders wouldn’t even have to switch to a 3-4. There are plenty of 4-3 systems based around gap control, well-timed blitzes, and man coverage in the secondary.
The Saints’ defensive scheme, for example. Three corners who excel in man coverage. A SS who plays in the box and blitzes like a LB. A FS who can play single-deep and go man-to-man against slot receivers. Three LBs who are fast, decent in coverage, can shed blocks, penetrate the LOS and make stops in the run game. Their defensive linemen are all BIG men who keep the offensive linemen from getting to the second level. They control their gaps and collapse the pocket, letting the LBs clean up behind them. The d-line is especially effective when they have Ellis and Franklin playing 2-gap in the middle.
With a scheme like that? The Raiders could go far, even with the personnel they have now. Add a DT strong enough to man the 2-gap, and some more athleticism/tackling ability at WLB and it COULD BE an elite defense.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:48 am
The offense is playoff ready the defense is not.
we have sevaral young players playing key roles, some due to attrition and not design.
shaugnessy, houston, mcclain, bryant, mitchell are set to play major roles and have been penciled into their roles since before the season started. The key will be in their continued development the rest of this year. Thanks to a philosophy change, (hu jack vs. cable) the youngsters will continue to see a heavy workload when healthy. If indeed they are good players then this will prove to be valuable game time priming most of them them to be starters for us over the next several years.
Chekwa and DVD trial by fire should start now. Routt is clearly the best db we have an in the top few press corners in the league. he also has looked good in zone, showing he is far more versatile then he gets credit for. he will need to cut down the penalties, and pick off a couple more passes to be consider the best. aside from routt there is no db on the roster that should play ahead of dvd and chekwa. This means we will be a bit more vanilla, and we will egt burned in the secondary. however if these guys start to figure it out it will be huge. CJ is finished, porter isnt very talented, let the youngsters and huff handle the rest of the duties. Last year ware didnt get enough run, as a result it seemed to stunt his development and he was terrible in camp this year. Put our youngsters out there see what we have and let them grow. I have seen enough natural ability from these kids to believe they will be very good as their technique and understanding of the pro game increases. they will be picked on and when they begin to win the battles it will put them way ahead of the curve for next year.
The defense is very young, and to young to say they cant play. this year is about developing our youth on defense, any thing else is a waste.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:49 am
And guess what Junior 77 misses in all this? Offensive schemes were much different at that time and DBs could actually play defense not some BS I can barely touch a WR rules
October 4th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Look at teams like Pittsburg. You’re telling me that every single linebacker they draft is that good? NO, they just do a better job of putting those players in position to make plays than the Raiders do. They attack the LOS with discipline and aggression.
It is a different defensive philosophy they go by. Raiders play read and react defense. They dont take the game to the offense. It’s been that way for as long as I can remember.
I know what the idea behind it is, but unfortunately with the increase of passing in the league and spread you out offenses, it just isn’t caught up with the times anymore.
You cant depend on having 11 pro bowlers on defense at once, because that’s basically what it takes for our defensive philosophy to succeed with any consistency.
They are basically saying ‘nobody make any mistakes because if ONE person messes up, its a 50 yard TD.’
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Quote for MF’ing TRUTH! one of the best things a semi-pro has written here in a long, long time.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
534.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:45 am
How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Hostetler throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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woooooooooooooo exactly
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Jerry Rice / Tim Brown = TWO HOF’ers
Willie Gault / Mervin = journeymen WR’s
Doesn’t matter if Montana or Elway was throwing to them….the fact remains your are arguing that two journeymen WR’s are better than two HOF’ers…
Stop making insane stupid arguments please.
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So what if thye were hall of famers…as a tandem they were limited and only did dink and dunk schit….which was our ultimate doom 2001 and 2002
October 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
It’s good to read how we can improve the D by signing this player or having this scheme but the bottom line is with Chuck in control we’re going to be $hite.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
525.Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
523.neilb Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
519.Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:30 am
1990 Gault-Fernandez-Brown > 2002 Brown-Rice-Porter….by far
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Hostetler throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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Man! I loved the Hoss! I wish he’d had a team around him!!
October 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
bcz24, NT is the most critical piece in that front and nobody trades 34 NTs.
I would take Curry just because I think we could use help at LB but don’t think we’re ready for a 34.
Lot of speculation early because we have the personel for it, minus the NT.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
534.JR77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:45 am
How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Gannon throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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How good would that 1990 bunch be if they had Hostetler throwing them the ball instead of Schroeder?
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woooooooooooooo exactly
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Jerry Rice / Tim Brown = TWO HOF’ers
Willie Gault / Mervin = journeymen WR’s
Doesn’t matter if Montana or Elway was throwing to them….the fact remains your are arguing that two journeymen WR’s are better than two HOF’ers…
Stop making insane stupid arguments please.
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So what if thye were hall of famers…as a tandem they were limited and only did dink and dunk schit….which was our ultimate doom 2001 and 2002
October 4th, 2011 at 9:53 am
2002<—-most overrated year ever in Raider history…al said that himself basically
October 4th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Junior 77….go back to your white collar job…dont post anymore….you are horrible…it should be a crime to be that stupid
October 4th, 2011 at 9:55 am
# neilb Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Dhb’s catch at the end of the game might help him forget that CLANG that hit him in the hands but dropped.
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all wrs drop passes. Dhb has 2 drops this year, RODDY WHITE has 4.
It happens to all of them every now and again. Before sunday DHB caught every catch able pass that went his way. The question is will he bounce back and string together some big catch /yardage days without dropping the ball. a drop or 2 every 4-5 games we can live with.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Remember this when we beat the donks to play them the next week in the playoffs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXrCf9_6SAM
October 4th, 2011 at 9:59 am
The question is will he bounce back and string together some big catch /yardage days without dropping the ball.
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This is the 64,000 dollar question ultimately. I don’t think he can. I hope I’m wrong.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:59 am
You cant depend on having 11 pro bowlers on defense at once, because that’s basically what it takes for our defensive philosophy to succeed with any consistency.
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This is what I was saying yesterday. In this era we cannot afford to plug in allpro’s at every position on D. Al needs to sign a D coordinator and let him bring in his players and drop the ones that don’t belong in his system. Al will still get the praise for the hiring when we win a SB.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:39 am
You dont know the difference between “big boy games” and “garbage time”, according to the way you have termed them. According to you the big divisional wins last year, and the late season victories against an eventual playoff team weren’t “big boy games”, but the 4th game of the regular season after the biggest home opener win in years is.
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It’s all about jockeying for playoff position.
The only game last year that would apply would be the first Chiefs game.
All those other wins, were meaningless, except to losers like Tom Cable and the whole “we are not losers anymore” crowd.
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so last sunday was a so-called ‘Big boy game”?
But a late season win vs the eventual division champ isnt?
Was the jets game a “big boy game”? It was the biggest home opener win in years.
you arent making any sense, until i consider your duplicitous nature.
you are clowning yourself
October 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
DHB is not a starting caliber NFL WR….right now he is our 4th best WR and when Murphy comes back our 5th….its tragic they trying him as number 1
Hue catching pressure about it becuz everyone knows Hagan Moore and ford are better
October 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
That’s what I’m hoping for Mistic1.
Forget the clang on 3rd down and remember the big play with 2 defenders all over you.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Don’t you just love dhb apologists! ! Lmao…
October 4th, 2011 at 10:07 am
# 2romes Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am
When the Raiders are on defense and they are facing 2 receivers to one side and the suspect crossing routes they had not tried a zone type scheme with the cornerback and the safety, taking the crossing receiver, in that situation that am aware of. In that situation, the Raiders may come away with a big interception play or a big hit possibly causing a fumble.
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i suspect these kind of issues are a result of having such inexperienced players like chekwa and dvd seeing major time on the field. they have to prove they know these schemes well enough to be trusted in game to do it.
It also seems that players like boyd and giordon simply arent very talented and need to have their roles minimized. the easiest way to do that is playing it vanilla.
i hope that as the year goes on and chekwa and dvd gain experience we can begin utilizing more scheme in the secondary. having huff mitchell and branch healthy will send boyd and giordono back to special teams where they belong, and by seasons end we will have a good idea of where our secondary will be heading into next year.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Romo, the critic, should ship his ‘droid formula that helped him win 5 super bowls to RoMac, maybe that will solve the Raiders defense’s problem.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:08 am
553.ghostraiders Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Don’t you just love dhb apologists! ! Lmao…
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Derek Hagan out of 10 catches in 3 games has 7 first downs…..you tell me
October 4th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I can handle the occasional drop from DHB, if he could sprinkle in the occasional TD.
Just like we put up with Lou Murphy’s drops and fumbles, because he put up 4th Quarter game-winning TD’s.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
555.zopi Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Romo, the critic, should ship his ‘droid formula that helped him win 5 super bowls to RoMac, maybe that will solve the Raiders defense’s problem.
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HAHAHAHA
October 4th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Vegas….ocassional drop and coccasional TD? DHB? HAHAHA
October 4th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Romo only has 4 right? @ each with the 9ers and the Broncos?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
*2 each
October 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Morning peoples!
Wassup B, Hwnrdr….
October 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
yep Hwnrdr
October 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
562.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Morning peoples!
Wassup B, Hwnrdr….
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Nada setting that newbie Junior 77 straight….if possible
October 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Was listening to 95.7 this morning.
Romo was ripping McClain (rightfully so). Said he needs to start making impact plays. Needs to step his game up.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
DMAC, wassup man?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Lady Brady,….that’s funny!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
so last sunday was a so-called ‘Big boy game”?
But a late season win vs the eventual division champ isnt?
Was the jets game a “big boy game”? It was the biggest home opener win in years.
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Yes, last week was a “Big-boy game”.
No, last season beating the Broncos and Chiefs were not. They meant nothing. Same with the loss to Colts. Meant nothing.
Yes, the Jets was a “big-boy” game, but nowhere near as big as the Pats game.
Now run along and get me a Troy Smith, Omaha Nighthawk jersey
October 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Anyone who says Denarious Moore isn’t a #1 receiver isn’t watching the kid play… This guy will be on the Andre/Calvin Johnson level in 2-3 years. Megatron? We got our own… GALVATRON!
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With all due respects, CJ goes 6′5″ 240. Andre goes 6′3″ 228. Denarius is 5′11″ 190. I mean I love Denarius but let’s not go crazy here.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
565.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Was listening to 95.7 this morning.
Romo was ripping McClain (rightfully so). Said he needs to start making impact plays. Needs to step his game up.
Yes he does, or Next Man Up! Unfortunately, who?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
hagn plays his role well. big target underneath move the chains possesion guy. he and chaz have this role to fill. hagan in particular has been excellent on 3rd down.
DHB ford and moore stretch the field deep. Hagan isnt in this class and his role isnt diminished for it. hagan in fact benefits whenever he is on the filed with any of these speed guys.
Ford and moore also stretch the defense horizontally. Each of our wr guys is carving a role based on their particular gifts. give them more time more reps more opportunities for self discovery. especially our guys with game breaker speed.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Anyone who says Denarious Moore isn’t a #1 receiver isn’t watching the kid play… This guy will be on the Andre/Calvin Johnson level in 2-3 years. Megatron? We got our own… GALVATRON!
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With all due respects, CJ goes 6′5″ 240. Andre goes 6′3″ 228. Denarius is 5′11″ 190. I mean I love Denarius but let’s not go crazy here.
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D Moe = Steve Smith or Desean Jackson
October 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Preseason playoff contenders= Steelers 2-2, Chitown 2-2, Dallas 2-2, ATL 2-2, Jets 2-2 and Philly 1-3…..why are people so down again about our 2-2 start?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
569.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Anyone who says Denarious Moore isn’t a #1 receiver isn’t watching the kid play… This guy will be on the Andre/Calvin Johnson level in 2-3 years. Megatron? We got our own… GALVATRON!
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With all due respects, CJ goes 6′5″ 240. Andre goes 6′3″ 228. Denarius is 5′11″ 190. I mean I love Denarius but let’s not go crazy here.
Ok, see your point…so Star Scream it is!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
So what do we do w/ our rotation when Murph comes back?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
571.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:17 am
hagn plays his role well. big target underneath move the chains possesion guy. he and chaz have this role to fill. hagan in particular has been excellent on 3rd down.
DHB ford and moore stretch the field deep. Hagan isnt in this class and his role isnt diminished for it. hagan in fact benefits whenever he is on the filed with any of these speed guys.
Ford and moore also stretch the defense horizontally. Each of our wr guys is carving a role based on their particular gifts. give them more time more reps more opportunities for self discovery. especially our guys with game breaker speed.
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You take DHB out of that equation then you are talking about something
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
With all due respects, CJ goes 6′5″ 240. Andre goes 6′3″ 228. Denarius is 5′11″ 190. I mean I love Denarius but let’s not go crazy here.
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But DMo has shown he can go up and get the ball over defenders.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Method… my point exactly. .. dhb makes a few plays but mean nothing. .. he’s not a big play Guy.. dmoore has 3 touch Downs this season… how much does dhb have for his career?? I doubt he even has 3…. play dmoore…more!!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
575.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
So what do we do w/ our rotation when Murph comes back?
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What we should do is have Hagan 1 Moore 2 Ford 3 Murphy 4 DHB 5 Chaz 6
but we will go DHB 1 Ford 2 Moore 3 Murphy 4 Chaz 5 Hagan 6…….fkin tragic
October 4th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Preseason playoff contenders= Steelers 2-2, Chitown 2-2, Dallas 2-2, ATL 2-2, Jets 2-2 and Philly 1-3…..why are people so down again about our 2-2 start?
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Real head scratcher to me also.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
578.ghostraiders Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Method… my point exactly. .. dhb makes a few plays but mean nothing. .. he’s not a big play Guy.. dmoore has 3 touch Downs this season… how much does dhb have for his career?? I doubt he even has 3…. play dmoore…more!!
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DHB tries hard but just aint an NFL reciever….I mean its so evident sitting at the coliseum…..he has two routes he can run… comeback route or fake like he is doing a comeback and go for a streak…..no post routes or post corners….no deep ins or our routes….no corssing patterns lol….guy isnt a starter
October 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Anyone who says Denarious Moore isn’t a #1 receiver isn’t watching the kid play… This guy will be on the Andre/Calvin Johnson level in 2-3 years. Megatron? We got our own… GALVATRON!
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With all due respects, CJ goes 6′5″ 240. Andre goes 6′3″ 228. Denarius is 5′11″ 190. I mean I love Denarius but let’s not go crazy here.
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That’s been my call since I saw him start playing in preseason; Denarius can be Desean Jackson. Same height-weight speed tangibles. And he seems as dynamic.
Our version of CJ and Andre is Chaz (6′4 225) but he has no interest in playing that big. He’d rather bend in half at the LOS and make ONE first down grab per game over the middle with ZERO YAC. IMPACT PLAYER BABY!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
The only reason to be down on the 2-2 start is that in order to go 10-6 like planned, it now appears obvious we may have to average 30 ppg.
The defense is a lot worse than most antiicipated.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Yeah,
I like your rotation
Hagan moves the chains all day
Moore got stupid game
Ford in the slot
October 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
so last sunday was a so-called ‘Big boy game”?
But a late season win vs the eventual division champ isnt?
Was the jets game a “big boy game”? It was the biggest home opener win in years.
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Yes, last week was a “Big-boy game”.
No, last season beating the Broncos and Chiefs were not. They meant nothing. Same with the loss to Colts. Meant nothing.
Yes, the Jets was a “big-boy” game, but nowhere near as big as the Pats game.
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It’s all about jockeying for playoff position.
The only game last year that would apply would be the first Chiefs game.
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beating the division rival broncos in prime time isnt “jockeying for playoff position” or a “big boy game”?
How is the pats game bigger than the biggest home opener win in a decade? The jest were in the afc title games two years running, where have the pats been? the flamed out and went bust.
Please explain what you mean, because you are post are quickly becoming more laughable with each key stroke.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Preseason playoff contenders= Steelers 2-2, Chitown 2-2, Dallas 2-2, ATL 2-2, Jets 2-2 and Philly 1-3…..why are people so down again about our 2-2 start?
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Because people are unrealistic, and the dominant win over the Jets had them thinking we were going to reel off 13 wins in a row and be the #1 seed.
Nevermind the fact that NO ONE predicted us being any better than 2-2 in the first four, and most thought worse than that after the horrible preseason.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
584.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Yeah,
I like your rotation
Hagan moves the chains all day
Moore got stupid game
Ford in the slot
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And its sad that its even up for debate that these three be our top WRs
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
How is the pats game bigger than the biggest home opener win in a decade? The jest were in the afc title games two years running, where have the pats been? the flamed out and went bust.
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Wow…TWO WHOLE YEARS RUNNING!!!
I count the game against a team that has a QB, THAT HAS WON A SUPER BOWL, and a team that hangs it’s hat on more than two AFC championship games, as more important.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
SPN’s Adam Schefter reported on Monday Night Countdown that the Texans believe Andre Johnson’s hamstring injury will not keep him out long term.
Schefter confirmed that Johnson probably won’t play in Week 5 against the Raiders, but the team hasn’t yet ruled him out, and the injury isn’t season-threatening as may have been initially feared.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Preseason playoff contenders= Steelers 2-2, Chitown 2-2, Dallas 2-2, ATL 2-2, Jets 2-2 and Philly 1-3…..why are people so down again about our 2-2 start?
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Impostor fans jumping ship like the rats they are! GOOD RIDDANCE
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
586.bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Preseason playoff contenders= Steelers 2-2, Chitown 2-2, Dallas 2-2, ATL 2-2, Jets 2-2 and Philly 1-3…..why are people so down again about our 2-2 start?
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Because people are unrealistic, and the dominant win over the Jets had them thinking we were going to reel off 13 wins in a row and be the #1 seed.
Nevermind the fact that NO ONE predicted us being any better than 2-2 in the first four, and most thought worse than that after the horrible preseason.
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Very much so…..its just sad…..how many teams in the NFL would go 3-1 or 4-0 with how our schedule was? Jets and Pats back to back? MNF to start season on road vs division rival and short week early game to east coast? People dont know a damn thing
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m still shocked that anyone seriously expected the Raiders to beat the Patriots.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
DHB is not a starting caliber NFL WR….right now he is our 4th best WR and when Murphy comes back our 5th….its tragic they trying him as number 1
Hue catching pressure about it becuz everyone knows Hagan Moore and ford are better
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Have we not gone over this a thousand times on this blog? Hagan and Ford play different positions than DHB and it is unknown whether Moore can play the Z or not. Some of you guys wanted to draft Craptree. Craptree also is not a Z. He’s a Y. We had 3 Y’s on the roster already. We didn’t have a Z. Ford is an X. Jesus H. Christ. These positions are not interchangeable. That’s like moving Jarvis Moss to the NT. Or saying that since Khalif Barnes comes in eligible all the time, let’s split him out and see what he can do. But of course some of you guys want to move McClain outside and that ain’t gonna happen either.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
588.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
How is the pats game bigger than the biggest home opener win in a decade? The jest were in the afc title games two years running, where have the pats been? the flamed out and went bust.
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Wow…TWO WHOLE YEARS RUNNING!!!
I count the game against a team that has a QB, THAT HAS WON A SUPER BOWL, and a team that hangs it’s hat on more than two AFC championship games, as more important.
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Pats aint won a title since 04 and havent won a playoff game since 07…and last year got punked by Jets in playoffs at home….be serious buddy
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 am
How is the pats game bigger than the biggest home opener win in a decade? The jest were in the afc title games two years running, where have the pats been? the flamed out and went bust.
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Wow…TWO WHOLE YEARS RUNNING!!!
I count the game against a team that has a QB, THAT HAS WON A SUPER BOWL, and a team that hangs it’s hat on more than two AFC championship games, as more important.
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Then you are a bigger fool then i thought you were. the nfl is what have you done for me lately. That isnt the same pats team that won the superbowl years ago. in fact they havnt sniffed the superbowl recently.
Im not sure what your making up in your own mind, but what actually happened on the filed is the jest went deeper into the playoffs the last two years.
Are you finished putting your foot ion your mouth yet?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
When have the Jets won a title??
October 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
593.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
DHB is not a starting caliber NFL WR….right now he is our 4th best WR and when Murphy comes back our 5th….its tragic they trying him as number 1
Hue catching pressure about it becuz everyone knows Hagan Moore and ford are better
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Have we not gone over this a thousand times on this blog? Hagan and Ford play different positions than DHB and it is unknown whether Moore can play the Z or not. Some of you guys wanted to draft Craptree. Craptree also is not a Z. He’s a Y. We had 3 Y’s on the roster already. We didn’t have a Z. Ford is an X. Jesus H. Christ. These positions are not interchangeable. That’s like moving Jarvis Moss to the NT. Or saying that since Khalif Barnes comes in eligible all the time, let’s split him out and see what he can do. But of course some of you guys want to move McClain outside and that ain’t gonna happen either.
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Ford the X? LOLOLOLOLOLOL stop it
DHB doesnt play a position at all….please SeyBush kill that
I want DHB moved to the bench or sprain his ankle….he cant play the X,Y,Z or any damn letter in the alphabet
October 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 am
With all due respects, CJ goes 6′5″ 240. Andre goes 6′3″ 228. Denarius is 5′11″ 190. I mean I love Denarius but let’s not go crazy here.
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But DMo has shown he can go up and get the ball over defenders.
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Dude has sick skills. Let’s be honest, he’s a freak. But that doesn’t mean that teams are not going to start game planning for him. You put a bigger NFL cover corner on him and then what do you do? You guys have to remember that this kid only has 3 NFL games under his belt and teams really have not started to focus on him.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
596.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
When have the Jets won a title??
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doesnt matter….they are a big boy team that has given the pats trouble
October 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ask Las Vegas, who has a better chance to win the Super Bowl, Jets or Patriots.
Thank you.
Jets beat the Bengals and Chargers to make one AFC championship game. I thank Jamarcus and Gradkowski almost beat those same two teams that year.
Jets = overrated
Sanchez = massively overrated
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
So when the Raiders beat Texans….it wont help JC cuz it wasnt a big boy game since Texans havent won a title….gotcha VR
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Although it hurts…I got a good laugh over somebody calling McClain “Rolando Bosworth”…..mix Ro with Boz and you get the ROZ…..
The Roz needs to pick it up.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m still shocked that anyone seriously expected the Raiders to beat the Patriots.
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They certainly could have. Patriots did nothing special. We limited Brady and on offense, took what we wanted.
We can play with anyone, YA.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
YA…yeah, I was hoping to beat the Pats! Well, I guess I wasn’t expecting to…however, that game could have swung our way…could have!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I doubt the Jets make it further than the Patriots this year in the playoffs.
In fact, I don’t see the Jets making the playoffs.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Ahem… Rolando McBosworth
October 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
When have the Jets won a title??
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69. Joe Willie Namath
October 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
’sup smellas?
Who are you guys roasting today?
I’m not even going to bother looking and just assume that it’s Campbell, DHB, McClain, Kelly, etc., etc.
You all must not know what to do when we win. Oh yeah, you still rip ‘em apart.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
600.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ask Las Vegas, who has a better chance to win the Super Bowl, Jets or Patriots.
Thank you.
Jets beat the Bengals and Chargers to make one AFC championship game. I thank Jamarcus and Gradkowski almost beat those same two teams that year.
Jets = overrated
Sanchez = massively overrated
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2009 grad beat bengals….we didnt beat chargers from and time in 2003-2010
Oh Vegas last year also had Pats favored over Steelers and Packers….next
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m still shocked that anyone seriously expected the Raiders to beat the Patriots.
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If we had done better then 2/5 in the red zone, we might have.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Rolando McDouble w/ cheese
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
People were talking up Owen Daniels on here…isn’t he a Zack Miller clone (Good receiver, not a great blocker and injury prone)?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
If we had done better then 2/5 in the red zone, we might have.
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Exactly.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
lol @ XYZ WR’s
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
So when the Raiders beat Texans….it wont help JC cuz it wasnt a big boy game since Texans havent won a title….gotcha VR
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Have the Texans even had a meaningful week 17 game?
Now, if it were week 15, and both teams were in playoff contention, than definately a “big-boy” game.
But sorry, there may never be a point in NFL history where beating the Texans in the first week of October is anything other than your a typical regular season victory.
Beating the Tom Brady-led Pats? Different story. Hell, smashing the Jets, THE BIG BAD TWO-TIME LOSING AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAMERS, at their own game is different as well.
Beating the Houston Texans in October??? LMFAO if that is what this team wants to call a “big-boy” game.
I thought we got rid of Tom Cable and his we are not losers mentality?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
People were talking up Owen Daniels on here…isn’t he a Zack Miller clone (Good receiver, not a great blocker and injury prone)?
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Not worried about Daniels.
We need to stop Foster!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
When have the Jets won a title??
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pathetic. Wake up Mcfly, this isnt 2004.
The only reason you want to say the pats game was bigger is so you can make a case against our qb. No reasonable, sane or otherwise functioning human could claim that the Jest game wasnt the biggest game of the season to date. Home opener, sellout, vs afc title contender two years running. The very team that pounded the patsies head to head last year!
You are so pathetically transparent, it bores me destroying your sorry post.
What a joke
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
611.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Rolando McDouble w/ cheese
LMAO! Good One!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
We can play with anyone, YA.
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Clearly “we” can’t. The weaknesses the Patriots exploited were the same weaknesses that Brees made apparent in the preseason, and Fitzpatrick made apparent in Week 2. If the Raiders are going to play any team that has a QB who is calm under pressure, a solid run-blocking offensive line, and is built to spread it out in the passing game, the Raiders will struggle. They have not shown they can play with teams who do those things well. And those just so happen to be the elite teams in the league – NE, GB, NO.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
605.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I doubt the Jets make it further than the Patriots this year in the playoffs.
In fact, I don’t see the Jets making the playoffs.
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That is all possible VR….no doubt
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
At the end of the season, you go ahead and hang your hat on beating the 7-9 Jets.
Tom Cable would be proud.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
479.MiamiRaider78 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Jay did bring tears to my eyes (I was just a kid) lol…It was the game we played a year or 2 after we got our ass handed to us up in Buffalo 51-3. He was tossing interceptions and Scott Norwood was missing field goals to keep us in the game but Shroeder still eff’ed it up.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll300/A02U_1_20110422_0921e6e6-9dc7-489d-aa26-f130235afa1b899272.jpg
Remember that?
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Miami Raider was this the game after Bo’s last game (hip injury) and we were trying to make it to the championship and the Bills kicked our @$$!!!! I am almost sure this was the year.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
I’ll you this….Pats wouldnt beat Jets if they played in playoffs again…no way…Pats lack the talent to win a title now
October 4th, 2011 at 10:42 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ask Las Vegas, who has a better chance to win the Super Bowl, Jets or Patriots.
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Your talking about book makers paper, im talking about WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, HERE ON EARTH, IN THIS TIME AND SPACE DIMENSION.
What planet are you on bra
October 4th, 2011 at 10:42 am
If we had done better then 2/5 in the red zone, we might have.
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But “we” didn’t. And there’s a reason for that. And there’s also a reason the Raiders didn’t get more opportunities to go on sustained offensive drives. The Patriots are a better football team at this point. Pretty simple.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:44 am
621.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
At the end of the season, you go ahead and hang your hat on beating the 7-9 Jets.
Tom Cable would be proud.
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Why not be proud of beating them when they were undefeated?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:44 am
619.YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
We can play with anyone, YA.
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Clearly “we” can’t. The weaknesses the Patriots exploited were the same weaknesses that Brees made apparent in the preseason, and Fitzpatrick made apparent in Week 2. If the Raiders are going to play any team that has a QB who is calm under pressure, a solid run-blocking offensive line, and is built to spread it out in the passing game, the Raiders will struggle. They have not shown they can play with teams who do those things well. And those just so happen to be the elite teams in the league – NE, GB, NO.
Got your point and a good one indeed, however, that game could have swung our way! I see it as agood learning curve for our guys…
October 4th, 2011 at 10:44 am
592.YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m still shocked that anyone seriously expected the Raiders to beat the Patriots.
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We hung in there with them for 28 minutes and if not for a few bonehead plays we coulda had a chance for it to go right to the wire. If we could have taken a 2-2 record before the season started we ALL would’ve taken it.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:44 am
What planet are you on bra
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I’m on the planet where people who talk up Troy Smith and Jerrod Johnson shouldn’t even be responded too.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
is this not the NFL ,VEGAS?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Why not be proud of beating them when they were undefeated?
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Hey, a wins a win.
Some are bigger than others.
Curious, what would you say was a “bigger” win, Bronco’s or Jets??
I’m leaning Jets, but Broncos being a divison win (#2 tiebreaker after head-to-head) make actually have more playoff meaning if the Jets are not in the playoff picture.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m still shocked that anyone seriously expected the Raiders to beat the Patriots.
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Thats a good thing though. That there were some who thought we might.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
And according to Jerry Glanville…NFL stands for Not For Long…
October 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
625.YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:42 am
If we had done better then 2/5 in the red zone, we might have.
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But “we” didn’t. And there’s a reason for that. And there’s also a reason the Raiders didn’t get more opportunities to go on sustained offensive drives. The Patriots are a better football team at this point. Pretty simple.
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I agree….in january it will be different
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
To say the Patriots aren’t favored is just blind hatred, and not true football knowledge. The Patriots can and will beat EVERY team in the NFL 9 times out of 10. That is a fact.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
lol @ XYZ WR’s
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You would laugh. You never got that far along in the alphabet did you?
Obliviously.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Got your point and a good one indeed, however, that game could have swung our way! I see it as agood learning curve for our guys…
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I agree. This was a necessary loss for a young Raiders team. They need to see how the big boys play. They need to see how much farther they have to go to be the best. The season is far from over, and the Raiders have a good chance of getting into the playoffs. I don’t see them getting very far because they’re not equipped to handle the best teams in the AFC, but even getting into the playoffs is huge progress. They’re a few key additions away from being a team that can challenge for a title.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I’m cool with 2-2. I really didn’t expect us to be over .500 this year after watching the preseason.
Just didn’t like looking so INFERIOR to the Patriots.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m still shocked that anyone seriously expected the Raiders to beat the Patriots.
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Yeah, I was one of them. And if not for the bonehead mistake by Campbell in the end zone, who knows what would have happened, but we lost and now lets concentrate on beating the Texans.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
635 – except Green Bay and the Saints.
Qbs are equal.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I’m cool with 2-2. I really didn’t expect us to be over .500 this year after watching the preseason.
Just didn’t like looking so INFERIOR to the Patriots.
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Makes it worse is that we SHOULD be 3-1
October 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
636.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
lol @ XYZ WR’s
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You would laugh. You never got that far along in the alphabet did you?
Obliviously.
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DHB is none of those…wake up man
October 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
635.bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
To say the Patriots aren’t favored is just blind hatred, and not true football knowledge. The Patriots can and will beat EVERY team in the NFL 9 times out of 10. That is a fact.
Not too sure about that now…they do have weaknesses that other teams see now…Since ‘04, Patriots 0-1, Vinaterri, 1-1…I was so glad that the Giants ended their perfect season in 07…
October 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Any conference game is big, Bill’s are good but they also got lucky, Jets did wonders for our confedence, and the pats show us how far we have to go yet. The Texans game will show us more. Each week we will learn more and more about this team and coaching staff. I think it’s way too early to be counting on anything. But compared to the last 9 – 10 years we are off to a good start!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Romanowski going off on RoMac’s LB play on Comcast last night was classic Romo!
Dude started to get little white spit balls going in the corners of his mouth.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
I go one up…a few plays and take away mistakes here and there…I say we’re 4-0
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
At the end of the season, you go ahead and hang your hat on beating the 7-9 Jets.
Tom Cable would be proud.
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You cant change the premise of the argument with this bra, its weak.
As of today october 4 2011, the jets are the team to beat in their division and have been deep into the playoffs the last two seasons. Things may indeed be different at years end, but it has no bearing on what has already transpired. Until they are dethroned it is impossible to make such an outlandishly abstract projection. If or when it does happen it wont matter, because that is then, and this is now. That is what we are basing your “big boy game” propaganda on.
The jest game is the biggest game we have played to date. possible revisionist interpretations come january are not a relevant in this discussion.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Now……..
Can we find someone to make it past the 20 yd line on kickoffs.
Or just fk’n kneel the ball.
I thought we got rid of Miller already.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Romanowski going off on RoMac’s LB play on Comcast last night was classic Romo!
Dude started to get little white spit balls going in the corners of his mouth.
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Yeah, he also ripped him this morn on 95.7
October 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
LMAO @ the Roz!!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Until they are dethroned it is impossible to make such an outlandishly abstract projection. If or when it does happen it wont matter, because that is then, and this is now.
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So based on that theory, “dethroing” the Chiefs is going to be more relevant than playing the Chargers this year?
Riiiiiiiiiight.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
648.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Now……..
Can we find someone to make it past the 20 yd line on kickoffs.
Or just fk’n kneel the ball.
I thought we got rid of Miller already.
LOL…Ouch!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
And when did Porter show anything that warranted him playing this much let alone making the team?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
DHB is none of those…wake up man
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Dude had over 100 receiving yards against a quality opponent. His first two catches in the game resulted in long 3rd down conversions. He caught the ball that iced the lst game of the season. Clearly, the guy is progressing. If you want to take someone who is getting better and kick him to the curb and put someone else in who doesn’t play the same positon, then let’s put MC Clain at safety.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Romanowski going off on RoMac’s LB play on Comcast last night was classic Romo!
Dude started to get little white spit balls going in the corners of his mouth.
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Yeah, he also ripped him this morn on 95.7
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Romo doesn’t do a lot of self editing, and I appreciate him for it. Just like how he played the game.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
635.bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 am
To say the Patriots aren’t favored is just blind hatred, and not true football knowledge. The Patriots can and will beat EVERY team in the NFL 9 times out of 10. That is a fact.
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No its not….pats very beatable and when playoffs come just watch them not advance to SB again
October 4th, 2011 at 10:57 am
YA, we killed the Pats in time of possesion in the first half and had the edge overall, so not sure I understand your ’sustained drives’ comment. We just didn’t cash in when we had the chance. Also, had an opportunity for a 1st and goal taken away at a crucial time of the game.
“WE” can play with anyone. It’s there. We didn’t get smacked around at all. In fact, our offense outplayed theirs save for two (albeit ultimately critical, back-breaking) plays.
Now if the basis for your whole argument for us not being competitive against elite teams are those two plays, then I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised when Jason bounces back. Don’t see the same thing happening again.
I noticed the shift for this Raider team last season against the Texans then again against the Chargers.
In the Texans game, the defense was gouged and gave up 3 separate times, only to have the offense continue to score and keep us in the game. First time in 8 years I can remember that happening.
In the SD game, we got out to an early jump on special teams turnovers, then got outplayed up and down the field by Rivers for about 35 minutes.
But offense kept it close. A couple of long Campbell drives and a critical play on defense sealed that W for us.
I guess my point is, hindsight is 20/20 but its too easy to say ‘who could expect us to beat the Patriots?’
Well, I did and we should have.
Same thing with Buffalo. Didn’t keep our foot on the pedal.
Want proof the D can tighten up and play ball?
Look at the Jets game. 7 points allowed in the 2nd half, correct?
I wasn’t scared of the Patriots and I’m sure as hell not scared of the Texans. I expect to win every game and the players should too.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
And when did Porter show anything that warranted him playing this much let alone making the team?
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Said this yesterday.
Sill a mystery to me.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Romanowski going off on RoMac’s LB play on Comcast last night was classic Romo!
Dude started to get little white spit balls going in the corners of his mouth.
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Yeah, he also ripped him this morn on 95.7
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he should be ripping him. Go look at the replay of Ridley’s 33 yard TD run to start the 2nd half. Compared to that play, you guys should be getting DHB’s bust bronzed for Canton.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
654.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
DHB is none of those…wake up man
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Dude had over 100 receiving yards against a quality opponent. His first two catches in the game resulted in long 3rd down conversions. He caught the ball that iced the lst game of the season. Clearly, the guy is progressing. If you want to take someone who is getting better and kick him to the curb and put someone else in who doesn’t play the same positon, then let’s put MC Clain at safety.
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Sorry but he got a long pass when game was outta reach and cant sniff the endzone to save his life. Need I mention its his fault for not being an NFL WR on the INT? Guy sucks…and is limited in his ability out there….stop being a shill
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
648.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Now……..
Can we find someone to make it past the 20 yd line on kickoffs.
Or just fk’n kneel the ball.
I thought we got rid of Miller already.
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We aren’t blocking on special teams like we did last year. It has nothing to do with the returners.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Don’t think we looked inferior at all. We gave up some big runs, so did they. We gave up some big passes, so did they.
Difference? They didn’t make mistakes and we did and they took advantage. Sure, they’re the better team (more so because of that than anything) but to think beating them was impossible? Pfff.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Porter and Chekwa continue to get roasted, yet get all the reps over DVD.
Guess the preseason embarressments of DVD meant something to the coaching staff.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
LA To The Bay: Excellent Post!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
648.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Now……..
Can we find someone to make it past the 20 yd line on kickoffs.
Or just fk’n kneel the ball.
I thought we got rid of Miller already.
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We aren’t blocking on special teams like we did last year. It has nothing to do with the returners.
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So does Miller get a pass?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
663.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Porter and Chekwa continue to get roasted, yet get all the reps over DVD.
Guess the preseason embarressments of DVD meant something to the coaching staff.
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DVD isn’t healthy. I saw first hand the laceration in his knee, and it was pretty bad. I think DVD and Chekwa are about equal right now, both definitely better than Porter though. I think Jeremy Ware was better than Porter too though… so who knows.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Until they are dethroned it is impossible to make such an outlandishly abstract projection. If or when it does happen it wont matter, because that is then, and this is now.
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So based on that theory, “dethroing” the Chiefs is going to be more relevant than playing the Chargers this year?
Riiiiiiiiiight.
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I am attempting to discern your meaning of “bog boy games” and exposing as empty propaganda. What do the chiefs and chargers have to do with the jest being the biggest game we have played this year to date?
Face it, we have won the biggest and most important games out of the first four on the schedule. Division game vs. broncos, and stomping the afc title contenders in the opener.
I know you cant bring yourself to credit the team when hu jack and jc win, so you created this “big boy game” bs. then you have tried to change the meaning.
How many faces do you have anyway?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
The linebackers in general have struggled this season, as the Raiders (2-2) have allowed a league-worst 5.9 yards per carry.
OUCH! Arian Foster up next… CAn we build a bully by next week?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Was DVD on the field at all last Sunday? i don’t remember seeing him…but could be wrong. I thought he was hurt and that is why Chekwa stepped in…not sure about burn man Porter though…
October 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So does Miller get a pass?
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No, Miller was tripping over the goalline.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Yeah I know CJ got roasted in Buffalo, but he’s still…
CJ>Chekwa
CJ>DVD
CJ>Porter
Print that!
We need a healthy CJ!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Ob@ma’s so easy to beat, another Republican is chickening out from running against him.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:04 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So does Miller get a pass?
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No, Miller was tripping over the goalline.
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Fair enough.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
DVd is nicked up. Porter goes back to the bench when dvd is healthy, porter is playing due to injury.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
The linebackers in general have struggled this season, as the Raiders (2-2) have allowed a league-worst 5.9 yards per carry.
OUCH! Arian Foster up next… CAn we build a bully by next week?
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I actually think Q has been solid. He’s been playing the best out the group. IMO
October 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
672.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Ob@ma’s so easy to beat, another Republican is chickening out from running against him.
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O.b@ma not losing in 2012….this is known MR…accept it and move on
October 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Ob@ma kills another Al Qaeda punk, Hank Williams Jr. and his rowdy tea party friends sent packing by ESPN, Christie wussing out….this trend can’t bode well for you guys, MB. The ball just won’t bounce your way.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
pat angerer > romac?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:09 am
DMAC, Q has been our best LB by far. He seems to be the only one that has made any plays behind the LOS.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:09 am
678.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
pat angerer > romac?
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MUCH
October 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
678.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
pat angerer > romac?
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MUCH
and he was a backup!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Amanda Knox is Hot!!
Print that.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Sorry but he got a long pass when game was outta reach and cant sniff the endzone to save his life. Need I mention its his fault for not being an NFL WR on the INT? Guy sucks…and is limited in his ability out there….stop being a shill
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Bri weren’t you the one arguing about NT’s and UT’s for years? No shill about it. Positions are NOT interchangeable. And for each guy who you think should just come in and dominate, there is a Calvin Johnson, Vincent Jackson and Roddy White who came in and their fans were ready to tar and feather them. And then they developed. Look at McFadden. He was hurt and fumbled his lst two years. We all knew Heyward-Bey was a project. Everyone knew that. Now you’re upset because he’s a project? At least he is getting better.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
McClain was asked Monday what was wrong with the run defense.
“If I knew I’d fix it,” he said. “Obviously I don’t.
The Roz should go back to avoiding the media.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
According to ESPN’s John Clayton, Andre Johnson (hamstring) will “definitely” sit out this week’s game against the Raiders — and likely 2-3 weeks after that.
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OK
So can we concentrate on Foster now.
C’mon D!
Time to step ur game up!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Jerod Mayo the NE mike is an excellent excellent ILB. He goes down in the last game and Gary Guyton comes in and makes Mc Clain look like Billy Cannon Jr. Try to get Guyton somehow.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
When it comes to costly mistakes, the defense did better than the offense. I’d rather take poor numbers and doing a scrappy job than great numbers and choking when it counts. A pick on the opponents goal line and a pick to a defensive tackle? Anywhere else he’d have a bus ticket. But here he’s on scholarship.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
McClain was asked Monday what was wrong with the run defense.
“If I knew I’d fix it,” he said. “Obviously I don’t.
The Roz should go back to avoiding the media.
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Where’s Romo at, when you need him?
He needs to get socked in his eye socket!
lol
October 4th, 2011 at 11:18 am
DMAC, speaking of Romo, hear Romo’s thoughts on Campbell’s pick in the end zone on Chron. live last night? Said it lost the game. Said you can’t make mistakes like that against the Patriots.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Seymour. .. hearing that a wr taken in the first round #7 overall pick… with a multimillion dollar contract.. a lot of it guaranteed. …… but hearing you say is a project makes me sick to my stomach! !! Fricken wasted pick…. the Guy is never going to be what we expected.. never…. He sucks!,, play Moore. .more!!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:18 am
DMAC, speaking of Romo, hear Romo’s thoughts on Campbell’s pick in the end zone on Chron. live last night? Said it lost the game. Said you can’t make mistakes like that against the Patriots.
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That’s the same thing I said.
It was pretty much over when he threw the first pick.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:21 am
685.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
According to ESPN’s John Clayton, Andre Johnson (hamstring) will “definitely” sit out this week’s game against the Raiders — and likely 2-3 weeks after that.
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OK
So can we concentrate on Foster now.
C’mon D!
Time to step ur game up!
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Last season, the Texans took the Raiders’ lunch money, and then asked what was for dinner. Houston had 249 yards on 36 carries (6.9 per carry) in that game, even though Oakland was zeroing in on the run with receiver Andre Johnson out.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/03/SPS41LCRJR.DTL#ixzz1Zq2vvy4s
Until I see it I aint gonna believe this team can stop the run. Offense will have to score early and often to try and negate Foster.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:22 am
So, that’s one former pro bowler and Super Bowl champion, and beloved former Raider, who knows and has expressed publicly that it’s Campbell who lost this game.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:23 am
YA, we killed the Pats in time of possesion in the first half and had the edge overall, so not sure I understand your ’sustained drives’ comment. We just didn’t cash in when we had the chance. Also, had an opportunity for a 1st and goal taken away at a crucial time of the game.
“WE” can play with anyone. It’s there. We didn’t get smacked around at all. In fact, our offense outplayed theirs save for two (albeit ultimately critical, back-breaking) plays.
Now if the basis for your whole argument for us not being competitive against elite teams are those two plays, then I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised when Jason bounces back. Don’t see the same thing happening again.
I noticed the shift for this Raider team last season against the Texans then again against the Chargers.
In the Texans game, the defense was gouged and gave up 3 separate times, only to have the offense continue to score and keep us in the game. First time in 8 years I can remember that happening.
In the SD game, we got out to an early jump on special teams turnovers, then got outplayed up and down the field by Rivers for about 35 minutes.
But offense kept it close. A couple of long Campbell drives and a critical play on defense sealed that W for us.
I guess my point is, hindsight is 20/20 but its too easy to say ‘who could expect us to beat the Patriots?’
Well, I did and we should have.
Same thing with Buffalo. Didn’t keep our foot on the pedal.
Want proof the D can tighten up and play ball?
Look at the Jets game. 7 points allowed in the 2nd half, correct?
I wasn’t scared of the Patriots and I’m sure as hell not scared of the Texans. I expect to win every game and the players should too.
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Who said anything about being “scared” of the Patriots? Or anything about getting smacked around? The Raiders lost to a team that is flat-out better than them. That’s all.
Has a little to do with Campbell, but Sunday’s loss absolutely does not fall on him entirely. But five trips to the red zone isn’t going to get it done when the defense is letting the opposing team score at will. Time of possession doesn’t mean much when opposing offenses are going on short, efficient drives that end in touchdowns.
If the defense forces some mistakes and puts the ball in Campbell’s hands a few more times? Sure. But the Raider defense hasn’t shown the ability to do that against offenses who excel in the areas I mentioned above. When the defense “tightened up”, it was against an offense that is not in any way elite.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Anywhere else he’d have a bus ticket. But here he’s on scholarship.
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Stop with that nonsense dude. Jc has 3 INTs in 4 games (one on a hail mary). Yeah the redzone INT was bad, but that is on DHB as much as JC. The INT by Wilfork was a fluke play (they showed it from behind JC, you couldn’t see Wilfork) where a DT made an outstanding grab.
Heres the list of QBs that have as many or more INTs as JC:
1 Kyle Orton DEN 6
1 Philip Rivers SD 6
3 Tom Brady NE 5
3 Matt Cassel KC 5
3 Rex Grossman WAS 5
3 Cam Newton CAR 5
3 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 5
3 Tony Romo DAL 5
3 Mark Sanchez NYJ 5
10 Drew Brees NO 4
10 Jay Cutler CHI 4
10 Andy Dalton CIN 4
10 Josh Freeman TB 4
10 Chad Henne MIA 4
10 Tarvaris Jackson SEA 4
10 Kevin Kolb ARI 4
10 Matt Ryan ATL 4
18 Ryan Fitzpatrick BUF 3
18 Joe Flacco BAL 3
18 Matt Hasselbeck TEN 3
18 Colt McCoy CLE 3
18 Matt Schaub HOU 3
18 Matthew Stafford DET 3
18 Michael Vick PHI 3
October 4th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Young America,
Should we believe you, or former pro bowler and Super Bowl winner Bill Romanowski? He says Campbell’s pick cost the game. Says you can’t make mistakes like that against New England. He has some expertise, doesn’t he?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I think the humbling experiance will benefit these young Raiders! JC has to be on top of his A game next week…on the road, hostile environment, where we have yet to win! I hope this is not JC’s Dallas (referring to Brett Favre who has never won at Dallas)!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Bcz, it’s not statistics I’m talking about. I’m talking about quarterbacks making fatal errors. You can throw for 400 yards, and have the least amount of interceptions. But if one of those picks is on the goal line against the Patriots, and you lose momentum from that point forward? It’s more glaring that any statistics. Romanowski put it well on Chronicle live yesterday. You just can’t make mistakes like that against the Patriots. I agree with Romo. He might know. He’s played on some pretty good teams.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:28 am
I must agree with MR on this matter, regarding offense/defense.
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
When it comes to costly mistakes, the defense did better than the offense. I’d rather take poor numbers and doing a scrappy job than great numbers and choking when it counts. A pick on the opponents goal line and a pick to a defensive tackle?
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And the D did make some stops, most of which were negated by penalties.
The Patriots were and are the better team but we can beat better teams if we play mistake-free or mistake-limited football.
Tough task for the offense to carry us but to succeed, that’s what’s going to have to happen.
Offense is elite, or borderline elite. Defense is pretty weak. We can still got to playoffs with that. Other teams in recent memory have done so, including Cards (they had elite passing, we have elite rushing, so I’m calling it a wash).
October 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Campbell is what he is. He can only get this team so far. Can’t rely on a defense to put the ball back in your hands without giving up more points when you play Brady, Brees, or Rodgers. Campbell won’t take the Raiders to a Superbowl, although he might get close with a Top 10 defense. But you can’t simply put together a good defense, and then count on the league’s elite QBs to make mistakes so your teams slightly-above-average QB can have another few shots at the end zone.
Sunday’s loss was a team loss, and it exemplifies why the Raiders aren’t ready to be a championship team. The season isn’t over, though. I hope the young guys on this team learn from this loss, see what it takes to beat the best team in the league, and start working harder.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Yeah FIRE Campbell for 1 bad INT. ZZZZZ… your anti-raider vitriol is lame. Get some new schtick already
October 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
ghostraiders Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Seymour. .. hearing that a wr taken in the first round #7 overall pick… with a multimillion dollar contract.. a lot of it guaranteed. …… but hearing you say is a project makes me sick to my stomach! !! Fricken wasted pick…. the Guy is never going to be what we expected.. never…. He sucks!,, play Moore. .more!!
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PRACTICALLY EVERY SINGLE NFL TEAM HAS A BIG RECEIVER!!!!!!! NFL corners are big! Moore is small. Ford is small. Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson, Kenny Britt, AJ Green, Anquan Boldin, Brandon Marshall, Steve Johnson, etc. You need a big reciever. Do I like Moore? Yes. Do I think Moore should play? yes. But I don’t think you should take your big receivers who are improving and throw them in the trash. I don’t think we lost the last game because of DHB and Jason Campbell.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
The D actually did a remarkable job, keeping a game against the Patriots winnable well into the 3rd quarter.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Gotta agree with MR here.
We KNOW the offense can ball.
We KNOW the defense is sub par.
To lean on defense is unrealistic.
Offense let us down. Defense played slightly better than expected.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Bcz, it’s not statistics I’m talking about. I’m talking about quarterbacks making fatal errors. You can throw for 400 yards, and have the least amount of interceptions. But if one of those picks is on the goal line against the Patriots, and you lose momentum from that point forward? It’s more glaring that any statistics. Romanowski put it well on Chronicle live yesterday. You just can’t make mistakes like that against the Patriots. I agree with Romo. He might know. He’s played on some pretty good teams.
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For once, I actually agree w/ u RMR
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
I’m not a Campbell fan…. but he is normally not a turn over machine like Tony romo. .. he will be the first to admit that he effed up!!, good!” He acknowledged it. .. now try not Toronto it again and move on!!, I would still rather have Campbell than the turn over int machine that is Tony romo. … Campbell will learn from this!! Besides he’s all we have right now!! So its a moot point!”
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
MR
Do you think Amanda Knox is hot?
Would you kiss her if she was your cousin?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Young America,
Should we believe you, or former pro bowler and Super Bowl winner Bill Romanowski? He says Campbell’s pick cost the game. Says you can’t make mistakes like that against New England. He has some expertise, doesn’t he?
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See my above post. Campbell is in no way absolved from his role in this loss. But he was far from the only reason the Raiders lost.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
im not ready to write off romac. He needs to improve finishing tackles, and at times gets sealed by linemen but i think people are being to hasty in their assessment of his play. here is why.
Romac is tied for 15th leading tackler at the line backer position with 30 tackles. he is ted with none other than the great ray lewis. he ranks ahead of names like patrick willis and brian urlacher.
Romac is the number six ranked mlb for tackles. When you add in his passes defended, he has been a decent player.
The problem is wimbly and groves arent anywhere near the top 50 in tackles for linbackers. With groves at number 74 and wimbly checking in at number 88.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Hey, I want the guy who throws debilitating interceptions to be benched or cut. Others want to keep him in, despite how detrimental he is. You tell me who’s anti-Raider…
October 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:22 am
So, that’s one former pro bowler and Super Bowl champion, and beloved former Raider, who knows and has expressed publicly that it’s Campbell who lost this game.
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Beloved?? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? This ass-hat played 11 years for YOUR beloved Broncos and 49ers.
BTW, what enormous insite to say that you can’t turn the ball over against the Patriots. Took a real genius to lay that one out there!!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Young American,
Bill Romanowski said that Campbell’s pick was the key factor in the loss. Should I believe you over him? Have you ever played in the NFL?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
….it exemplifies why the Raiders aren’t ready to be a championship team. The season isn’t over, though. I hope the young guys on this team learn from this loss, see what it takes to beat the best team in the league, and start working harder.
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Do agree with this, though.
Glad we got a TD, albeit in garbage time in the 4th. Raiders of about 04-09 would not do this.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:33 am
SaintKaufman, Romo has a lot of supporters in the Raider Nation.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
YoungAmerican Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:23 am
If the defense forces some mistakes and puts the ball in Campbell’s hands a few more times? Sure. But the Raider defense hasn’t shown the ability to do that against offenses who excel in the areas I mentioned above. When the defense “tightened up”, it was against an offense that is not in any way elite.
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Thank you.
We have been good against teams that cant block our front 4.
The 2 teams who can get rid fo the ball qucikly we’ve lost to. Badly — Fitzpatrick and Brady.
We’ve beat Orton (terrible offensive line) and Sanchez (terrible offensive line and overrated QB who can actually be rattled).
Brady and Fitzpatrick arent afraid of our “Bully”. And it showed. How many times did we force a punt or 3 and out versus NE?
I counted 2. The 2nd coming when the game was already out of reach.
This defense sucks and will hold us back from winning the AFC West. D_Coordinator Davis.
Offense is ready for prime time. Defense…not so much.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
SaintKaufman, if you think you know more about this game than Bill Romanowski, send your resume` to comcast.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
MR, I was friggen pi**ed when he threw that ball right to Patrick Chung, although I did not know that DHB was supposed to make that cut…
Anyways, as much as I would love to have an Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees type of QB…it isn’t going to happen this year. Pryor is unknown and Boeller is…well, according to many, his wife is hot…
We have no one but Campbell here…unless you know who is free that can come here…
October 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I dont disagree with MR on the point that one fatal interception can cost you a game, what you dont understand DMAC is that ISNT the point MR is trying to make. He is, in his own twisted way, saying that THAT play defines what Soup is, and Soup is a guy Al picked so Al screwed up again.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
lol. Yeah. Campbell looked ready for prime time Sunday, didn’t he? A pick on the opponents goal line, with no Raider receiver in site, and a pick to a defensive tackle. sure. Prime time, baby.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
The sad part is that Sully needs someone to say the most obvious of obvious to support his thoughts.
Feel for ya man!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Actually, Campbell made Chung and Wilfork look “prime time”. lmao.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Hey, I want the guy who throws debilitating interceptions to be benched or cut. Others want to keep him in, despite how detrimental he is. You tell me who’s anti-Raider…
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then you SHOULD want JC. ThAT WAS HIS FIRST RED ZONE INT IN 2 YEARS!!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Young American,
Bill Romanowski said that Campbell’s pick was the key factor in the loss. Should I believe you over him? Have you ever played in the NFL?
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You should believe whoever you want to believe. Pretty sure I just said Campbell’s performance was one of the main factors in the loss to the Patriots. Just not the only one.
Best case scenario? Both those drives end in TDs (not convinced this would have been the case). Then you put the ball back in Brady’s hands. Does the defense somehow stop him then? Seriously doubt it.
Anyway, I’ve said here numerous times that the Raiders should be looking for a QB in the first round of the draft next season if they intend on being an elite team.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:38 am
SaintKaufman, like I said, if you think you know more than Bill Romanowski, I’m sure comcast is always willing to read resumes`. He’s on the air. It’s because he’s a former pro bowler and super bowl winner with several good teams. you’re not on the air…because _________
October 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Should we believe you, or former pro bowler and Super Bowl winner Bill Romanowski? He says Campbell’s pick cost the game. Says you can’t make mistakes like that against New England. He has some expertise, doesn’t he?
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WOW, you off your meds again? Didn’t you a few mothes ago rip on Romanowski for being overated and not a very good football player? Now you are citing him Romanowski as your proof against Campbell. B@auce even verbally slapped you around for those comments…
October 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
MR
Football is a TEAM sport unlike basketball where one guy makes or breaks a team.
11 guys are responsible for the offensive failures and 11 guys are responsible for the defensive failures.
Stop trying to pin it on one guy!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Young American, my point is that Romo said Campbell’s pick was the KEY factor, as in it was the most important, pivotal factor. And, I agree with him. Why shouldn’t I? He knows what he’s talking about, doesn’t he?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:41 am
SnB666, your opinion is noted. I’ll defer to the former pro bowler and super bowl winner.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Here you go Sully. I’m sure you never watched the replay because you were out dancing in the streets after the pick.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NiceNinjaX#p/u/3/J7pvSWL7zZk
Now, before you start jerkin it after 30secs watch the whole thing. And then try to get your Romo-loving junk to imagine this happened in a split second.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Seymour. Campbell was the goat of the game… its a given!! But I know he’s not a bad player….. now defending dhb by saying every team needs a big wide receiver is laughable. … especially if that receiver stinks like dhb!! Your in his cornet but your running outta ways to defend him… he doesn’t have to be a starter!” Dmoore should play more than dhb!! Period!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:43 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I dont disagree with MR on the point that one fatal interception can cost you a game, what you dont understand DMAC is that ISNT the point MR is trying to make. He is, in his own twisted way, saying that THAT play defines what Soup is, and Soup is a guy Al picked so Al screwed up again.
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Yeah, I get it. (I see it clearly)
Campbell lost it for us last week.
But I know Campbell will bounce back.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Question on earth was counting on boyd, giordono, dvd and chekwa to play major roles this season? the raiders were not.
Ther is only so much a d coordinator can do when he is saddled with this much youth and handicapped by a lack of talent in the secondary,
Now that huff and mitchell are back, and dvd will be healthy soon, we can get a better handle on what the secondary actually is.
Chuck is forced to keep it simple at this point. Either line up and play the guy across from you, or drop into a simple zone and keep it in front of you. he cant be to exotic with db blitzes or varying the zones, the young guys arent quiet ready.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Also note how Campbell threw himself under the bus, like a leader should.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
lol. Yeah. Campbell looked ready for prime time Sunday, didn’t he? A pick on the opponents goal line, with no Raider receiver in site, and a pick to a defensive tackle. sure. Prime time, baby.
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So since week 13 when Campbell was the full time starter and the Gradkowski experiment ended last season we have scored in order:
28, 31, 39, 26, 31, 23, 35, 34, 19
and he finally makes a mistake in the redzone and that erases everything he’s done?
The bottom line is this:
Last week the pressure was on the offense. The most it has been in YEARS. This is because everyone in the building knew that this defense wouldnt slow down the Pats at all, and the onus was on the Campbell and the offense to match them score for score. Well they make ONE redzone gaff, and all of a sudden Campbell sucks and the offense isnt any good? No, this is one of the most potent offenses in the league. The yards, the time of possession, and points put up prove it.
The defense continues to hold the team back. Not the offense.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Question on earth was counting on boyd, giordono, dvd and chekwa to play major roles this season? the raiders were not.
Ther is only so much a d coordinator can do when he is saddled with this much youth and handicapped by a lack of talent in the secondary,
Now that huff and mitchell are back, and dvd will be healthy soon, we can get a better handle on what the secondary actually is.
Chuck is forced to keep it simple at this point. Either line up and play the guy across from you, or drop into a simple zone and keep it in front of you. he cant be to exotic with db blitzes or varying the zones, the young guys arent quiet ready.
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Except when he sent Giordano on a blitz, and Brady just tossed it to Welker in the exact spot where Giordano was for a huge gain.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:45 am
lol. Yeah. Campbell looked ready for prime time Sunday, didn’t he? A pick on the opponents goal line, with no Raider receiver in site, and a pick to a defensive tackle. sure. Prime time, baby.
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There WAS a Raider in sight on the Chung pick. It was DHB standing in the corner looking stupid, because he fcked up, and JC, like a REAL leader stepped up and took the heat. Wilfork made an outstanding play, oh in case you didnt know, Wilfork also picked off your boy Phil Rivers. Should the Chargers bench or cut him too?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:46 am
How we play Houston will tell us what we need to know.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:47 am
and im not too excited, cause I think I already know.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:47 am
This has nothing to do with stats, Daraider. There are more important things than numbers. Like, I dunno, the won-loss column, for starters? And, making fatal mistakes that kill the momentum for your team, as Campbell did with that pick. And, evidently I’m not the only person who thinks so. Romanowski said as much on chronicle live last night. Surely he knows what he’s talking about, right? Former pro bowler. Super Bowl winner. Several great teams. That doesn’t go anywhere with you?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
@Mistic
Think what you said above was right, only thing I was disappointed about was the lack of accountability in defending Welker. I feel the emphasis on almost every play was to know where this guy and have him covered by Routt or double covered. I would have liked to see the other Patriot receivers beat us…especially with Hernadez out.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Anyhow, gotta run, fellas. Try to catch the chron. live replay for Romo’s thoughts on that pick.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
What is the NFL record for most games started at wide receiver with only two touchdown passes caught?
I bet DHB holds the record with 29 games started and only 2 touchdown passes caught.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
MR you are a first class JAMF….
October 4th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Young American, my point is that Romo said Campbell’s pick was the KEY factor, as in it was the most important, pivotal factor. And, I agree with him. Why shouldn’t I? He knows what he’s talking about, doesn’t he?
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He’s a guy with an opinion. There are many others like him. If you want to agree with him, that’s your prerogative. I don’t disagree, nor do I completely agree. The Raiders have glaring weaknesses on both sides of the ball.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Run along then sonny-boy!
hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa
October 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
What about stopping someone, ONCE IN A WHILE?
Again, you are talking about Campbell’s mistakes in the plural.
He’s made ONE error this season. Literally. The interception later to Wilfork sucked, but we had already lost. Because the defense can slow NOBODY down.
Here’s what goes somewhere with me; Scoring close to 30 PPG means nothing since your defense is useless.
Thats not stats. That’s fact.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
729.SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Here you go Sully. I’m sure you never watched the replay because you were out dancing in the streets after the pick.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NiceNinjaX#p/u/3/J7pvSWL7zZk
Now, before you start jerkin it after 30secs watch the whole thing. And then try to get your Romo-loving junk to imagine this happened in a split second.
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Props to Ninja for theses vids. This goes back to what b@uce was saying, DHB shouldn’t be on the field in the redzone.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
MR is basically saying in his small moronic mind that we COULD NOT have lost against the Patriots had JC not thrown that INT. No way it could have happened. THAT play was the ONLY one in the game that mattered.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Hey Carl, this guys vids are killer!
I assume they will keep coming all year so keep checking.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
That’s because the great Bill Romanowski has mystic abilities to see what the future would be like if that pick hadn’t happened. Didn’t ya know?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Hey Carl, this guys vids are killer!
I assume they will keep coming all year so keep checking.
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Whats on the vid
Can’t see schit at work
October 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I’m sure her next argument will be that Campbell should have seen that his WR ran himself out of bounds and so he should have never attempted the pass at all. Man, Grads would have definately been checking DHB’s feet on that play. Duh!!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Hey Carl, this guys vids are killer!
I assume they will keep coming all year so keep checking.
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Whats on the vid
Can’t see schit at work
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He’s got all kinds of plays broken down with different camera angles and players circled out and named, really well done.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:58 am
# bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:45 am
lol. Yeah. Campbell looked ready for prime time Sunday, didn’t he? A pick on the opponents goal line, with no Raider receiver in site, and a pick to a defensive tackle. sure. Prime time, baby.
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There WAS a Raider in sight on the Chung pick. It was DHB standing in the corner looking stupid, because he fcked up, and JC, like a REAL leader stepped up and took the heat. Wilfork made an outstanding play, oh in case you didnt know, Wilfork also picked off your boy Phil Rivers. Should the Chargers bench or cut him too?
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Watching the replay DHB took himself out of the play and stepped out of bounds, once he stepped out he stopped running. Looks like Jc was going to throw it up a the back and let DHb make a play on it like a jump ball. of course this is pure speculation on my part.
JC said he wanted to throw it away and mishandled the ball. Either way, taking heat for his teammate or owning up to his error shows leadership. We already know the red zone pick was uncharacteristic for him.
J
October 4th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Hey Carl, this guys vids are killer!
I assume they will keep coming all year so keep checking.
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Whats on the vid
Can’t see schit at work
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He’s got all kinds of plays broken down with different camera angles and players circled out and named, really well done.
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ok
I’ll check them out when I get to the house
October 4th, 2011 at 11:59 am
DMAC,
It’s a breakdown of the end zone pick from multiple screens showing DHB had started to cut across the middle(albeit out of bounds), the db had stumbled and then right as Campbell throws the ball DHB stops and turns back to the corner(still out of bounds!) and the db rights himself just in time to make the pick.
Sh**t happens!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
I’ll def. check it out later
October 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
741.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Anyhow, gotta run, fellas. Try to catch the chron. live replay for Romo’s thoughts on that pick.
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Hypocrite alert….just this summer I was talking about Romo saying JC was better than Grad and you responded that he is just a worker for the Raiders and blah blah…you are a fkin punk MR
October 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
741.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Anyhow, gotta run, fellas. Try to catch the chron. live replay for Romo’s thoughts on that pick.
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Hypocrite alert….just this summer I was talking about Romo saying JC was better than Grad and you responded that he is just a worker for the Raiders and blah blah…you are a fkin punk MR
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hahahahaha classic
October 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
729.SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Here you go Sully. I’m sure you never watched the replay because you were out dancing in the streets after the pick.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NiceNinjaX#p/u/3/J7pvSWL7zZk
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very nice breakdown im going to check this cats channel every week.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
733.SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Also note how Campbell threw himself under the bus, like a leader should.
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Real QB and I know he will lead us to a home playoff win in january
October 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
756.SaintKaufman Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:59 am
DMAC,
It’s a breakdown of the end zone pick from multiple screens showing DHB had started to cut across the middle(albeit out of bounds), the db had stumbled and then right as Campbell throws the ball DHB stops and turns back to the corner(still out of bounds!) and the db rights himself just in time to make the pick.
Sh**t happens!
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I was standing right there…..thats exactly what went down…DHB has no awareness
October 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Bet not one person in here would have said that after 4 weeks we would have the best offensive line in football
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BCZ,
Jhill did!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
763.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Bet not one person in here would have said that after 4 weeks we would have the best offensive line in football
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BCZ,
Jhill did!
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I dont know if Jhill said the best….but he sure did say it would be a strength…..dude was correct
October 4th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
I loved the perfectly thrown pass to DHB down the sideline! The throw was unreal, hit him perfectly in stride between 2 defenders. DHB caught the ball in a dead sprint over the shoulder while hand fighting with the db, & another closing in on him. He ripped the ball away kept his feet then almost broke free up the field. This kid is coming on & he will be a big contributor. The fact that JC is looking him up even in double coverage shows the confidence & trust that they share. DHB now must be consistent, he has flashed ability, & shown improvement, the next step is to perform week after week.
You laughed when I pointed out how the jets showed respect for him by covering revis, you mocked him when we said he gets double covered. Looks like he will be doing the laughing soon.
There is noone in a raider uniform that can do what this kid does. As jc gets used to having Moore ford & DHB as his top targets this passing attack will be special. By next year we could be boasting the single most explosive wr group in the nfl!
Thank god hu jack & uncle AL know better than the idiots on this blog that wanted DHB gone. DHB is only 24 & he growing up before our eyes. Take pride nation, this is something you don’t want to miss
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Mistic, nice post
much props to King Darrius!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Is McLain the Jamarcus on defense? He reminds me of Russell alot his demeanor, the lack of emotion …he sounds just like him, he seems not to have any fire in him..
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LOL @ jugulator!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Props to Jhill on that. I wasn’t buying the hype about Wiz being a reach, I knew this cat would ball for us, but I sure as hell didn’t see Satele and Barnes playing as well as they have. If they continue to get better, it will be hard NOT to pick us late in the year when offenses come back to reality in the crappy weather.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
What do you guys think would have happened if we chose MegaTron over JaMarcus?
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Hwnrdr,
who says it was Calvin up next?
the Raiders would have looked a lot different if Lane was allowed to bring in Monte and didn’t apply for college gigs while employed by the Raiders … what if he drafted and developed Quinn?
October 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Statistically-speaking-Kicker-hits-incredible-6?urn=highschool-wp6662
heheh he ain’t so bad! Seabass has competition!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
There is noone in a raider uniform that can do what this kid does. As jc gets used to having Moore ford & DHB as his top targets this passing attack will be special. By next year we could be boasting the single most explosive wr group in the nfl!
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No it wont ever be special with DHB on the field….Special Ed maybe but thats about it. He lack of awareness kills the offense….he sucks and never will be good….countless examples of him not being a NFL WR still show
October 4th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
767.bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Props to Jhill on that. I wasn’t buying the hype about Wiz being a reach, I knew this cat would ball for us, but I sure as hell didn’t see Satele and Barnes playing as well as they have. If they continue to get better, it will be hard NOT to pick us late in the year when offenses come back to reality in the crappy weather.
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Cooper can sit for all i care
October 4th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
BCZ,
I was fine with Wiz, Satele & Carlisle on the inside.
Veldheer gave up a bunch of sacks and had some penalties issues as a rookie last year. Barnes has been awful ever since we signed him (including preseason) … the OT’s have taken me by surprise
I really thought Heyer or Barksdale would overtake Barnes by Week 2, if not the Preseason finale!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
B,
Here’s Steve’s thoughts on DHB
Comment From inonewordraider
I’ve heard many complain that DHB is getting too much playing time, agree or disagree?
12:22
Steve Corkran:
I am on the record as saying, he should be Oakland’s sixth receiver, which would mean scant playing time.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I agree that McClain does not have enough fire as a MLB. I want to see some Ray Lewis type fire from my middle linebacker. Play with some emotion. All that layed back southern gentleman thing is good off the field but I want to see some bonecrushing fire on the field.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
773.DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
B,
Here’s Steve’s thoughts on DHB
Comment From inonewordraider
I’ve heard many complain that DHB is getting too much playing time, agree or disagree?
12:22
Steve Corkran:
I am on the record as saying, he should be Oakland’s sixth receiver, which would mean scant playing time.
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I mean Helen Keller can see that
October 4th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
We should be kicking tires on a number of LB’s, but were not. Were gonna let Groves/McClain/Wimbley continue to not fill gaps, not make tackles, not make plays and cost us more games
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DeuceDeuce,
the best 3 LB’s in free agency are probably Sam Williams, Dhani Jones & Jamie Winborn … unless you can talk Channing Crowder out of retirement or bring back an ex-raider MLB like Danny Clark or Napolean Harris
October 4th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
774.RaiderReggie Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I agree that McClain does not have enough fire as a MLB. I want to see some Ray Lewis type fire from my middle linebacker. Play with some emotion. All that layed back southern gentleman thing is good off the field but I want to see some bonecrushing fire on the field.
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Yup…..you gotta be a fkin solider out there
October 4th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I mean Helen Keller can see that
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She just couldn’t tell you
October 4th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
trade Rolando McClain to Philly for Nnamdi Asomugha
then just let Ricky Brown or Darryl Blackstock have the MLB job. It couldn’t get much worse
October 4th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
As my good buddy MistaBrown keeps saying…its 10 on 11 when DHB is on the field. That INT in the endzone is every bit of proof why there is no confidence in DHB to make a real significant play
October 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
779.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
trade Rolando McClain to Philly for Nnamdi Asomugha
then just let Ricky Brown or Darryl Blackstock have the MLB job. It couldn’t get much worse
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Naw id rather keep Slowlando McClain than to have homohawk back
October 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Nnamdi sucks in Philly. They would be wise to trade him rather than just bench him and cut him in the offseason. That’s a TON of guaranteed money
this is turning out like the DeAngelo Hall experiment in Oakland. At least they didn’t have to give up draft picks for #21
October 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Those vids from Nice Ninja are money. He showed how THE ROZ has no clue. The Roz was not even blocked and was slow and took the wrong angle and ended up making a tackle 8 yards off the LOS…..
Take on some blockers and deliver a BLOW Roz.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
10 on11 when dhb on the field”…. lmao! ! Classic!!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Props to Raider Nation for being loud and Proud last weekend.
All of you are smart enough to spot the strengths and weakness of this team.
The idea is to get better today or show improvement over the season.
I’m a firm believer you can’t teach athletes of special skills to run faster or jump higher or display amazing skills.
What you can see is trouble for these special people in how they prepare and if they will overcome any understanding, of their role or position on the football field.
The WR chatter is a valid point, with DHB skill level to D. Moore is not equal to his particular skill set.
You guys can break it down and have at it.
I always try to look at the whole body of work, or in this case this particular player.
Let me start by saying our run “D” has not improved. The tackeling issue is constant and the “D” coordinator has changed. So is it the “D” coordinator or lack of skill, preparation or scheme.
You can’t find a better 8 in football than the Raiders currently have.(dline)
Starters like Seynour, Kelly, Houston and Shaugnessey.
The lack of personnell is not the issue, or is it the lack of preparation.
Yes, I know the linebackers are suspect, yet the whole body of the front 7 is constantly terrible.
If you can’t on a consistent basis stop the run, you are giving the other team’s offense more options and plays, and as you wear down you reach instead of move your feet to tackle.
My first person as I see it that has no place as an evey day LB, is our WILL, Quentin Groves.
His read and react skills show he has not improved from last season. His angles to the attack zone our slow and deliberate to his reads and he gets blocked from lineman or TE’S.
I can only assume the film watching has just not improved his ability to react faster.
Quintin Groves is a superb athlete, motivated and very athletic, but will he ever get the position as a WIll linebacker. The picture is clear, he has not improved and how long do the Raider Nation and organization wait.
My thought is, if he hasn’t improved as a WILL, when will he, and how long do we wait to see a more dominant LB or do we draft someone next year.
By the way, Goethel is not the answer, so don’t go there.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
I really think the Fins would have beat SD with Henne at QB. That would have been hilarious, too
oh well.
Who didn’t know that Matt Moore was a clone of Josh McCown at QB?
I hope they don’t sign David Garrard though. He carved us up last season as a Jag – hate to face him again this year
October 4th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Slash….guy looks like he dont care….if you dont care then I hope you get hurt
October 4th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Steve Corkran: Watch a Cowboys game and see if you recognize the way Rob Ryan calls plays. My guess is, you won’t think it’s the same guy. The point is, you aren’t free to call games the way you want to when you’re with the Raiders, so it’s difficult to assess the coordinators.
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Cork agrees with me. (See my post # 493 above)
October 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Goethel is not the answer, so don’t go there
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not at Weakside, Dell.
move McCrohns to WLB and start Goethel at MLB next season
seriously!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
DELL….aint nada to breakdown on WR front…DHB isnt a natural WR. He should never start in the NFL. Its sad Al and Hue are forcing this guy on us. sure he works hard but the talent isnt there…Mistic,SeymourBush,Twerp and BHP refuse to see this when its obvious
October 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Rockstar, True…but wasn’t Calvin Johnson expected to go high? Well, Lane being able to bring his dad in the next year and actually being able to develop Brady Quinn, which in turn would have fit the system more than JaMarcus…but Al loves those 80 yards down the field stuff…and….
Well, Would you think that Monte would have been effective here, and would Lane know how to develop Brady Quinn??? I think maybe even CJ with Sanjal Lai trying to bring him would be disasterous! Maybe…
October 4th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
My first person as I see it that has no place as an evey day LB, is our WILL, Quentin Groves.
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Q>McDouble
October 4th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
789.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Goethel is not the answer, so don’t go there
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not at Weakside, Dell.
move McCrohns to WLB and start Goethel at MLB next season
seriously!
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Still 12 games in 2011 season….2012 has to wait…we need something now cuz this current schit aint working
October 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Time to begin again…
Week One: Ghostraider – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan44 – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
Week Four: Sullivan44
qodrn Raiders 38 Texans 35
Steve Corkran: High-scoring game, with the Texans winning unless Darren McFadden is healthy and churning up a ton of yardage.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
rolando is our number one pick middle line backer. This is important, even if he isnt where we want him yet, he is improving. Just like dmac, dhb, and others he needs time. We will know soon what kind of player he will be.
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I already know what I need to when yesterday he said ‘I tackled well, but I haven’t watched the film yet to see who wasn’t’… You throw your team under the bus and you lose all credibility with me.
McClain needs to grow up. He’s making JaMarshmallowesque statements out there
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Once upon a time LA & BCZ were ROMAC’s biggest supporters in here. 19 NFL starts later he’s not winning over the fans. Raider Nation deserves better imo
October 4th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Why not call out Wimbley also?
He sure has been underachieving since he got $$$$$$$$
Q has been our best LB by far this EARLY season.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Method… I don’t know about them other unrealistic dudes..I tend to give terp a pass because he’s just pulling for dhb because he’s from Maryland. .. but deep down I think terp knows this Guy is another fabulous BUST!!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
794.qodrn Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Time to begin again…
Week One: Ghostraider – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan44 – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
Week Four: Sullivan44
qodrn Raiders 38 Texans 35
Steve Corkran: High-scoring game, with the Texans winning unless Darren McFadden is healthy and churning up a ton of yardage.
Raiders 35
Texans 17
Yup I’m calling a fierce dominating performance on sunday on the road
October 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
aint nada to breakdown on WR front…DHB isnt a natural WR. He should never start in the NFL. Its sad Al and Hue are forcing this guy on us. sure he works hard but the talent isnt there…Mistic,SeymourBush,Twerp and BHP refuse to see this when its obvious
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ROG,
please add me to the DHB support group.
all hail King Darrius!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
31-28
Raiders
October 4th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Comment From Ron Mexico Ron Mexico: ]
What do you think is the biggest mistake Hue has made so far?
Tuesday October 4, 2011 12:48 Ron Mexico
12:48 Steve Corkran: Playing Heyward-Bey so much.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
797.ghostraiders Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Method… I don’t know about them other unrealistic dudes..I tend to give terp a pass because he’s just pulling for dhb because he’s from Maryland. .. but deep down I think terp knows this Guy is another fabulous BUST!!
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I’m from Oakland as is Kirk Morrison and Langston Walker and I was happy to see them go. Damn Maryland and their alumni….dont mean schit to me. Twerp’s analysis of DHB is laughable. His route running is very limited, suspect hands and no ball awareness…..Twerp better hide in his shell
October 4th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
When was the last time the Raiders had a dominating WILL LB, ROD MARTIN any others.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
799.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
aint nada to breakdown on WR front…DHB isnt a natural WR. He should never start in the NFL. Its sad Al and Hue are forcing this guy on us. sure he works hard but the talent isnt there…Mistic,SeymourBush,Twerp and BHP refuse to see this when its obvious
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ROG,
please add me to the DHB support group.
all hail King Darrius!
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Really? Next you will turn to Islam and become a Democrat
October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
where’s Plunk?
my prediction is …
Oakland thugs 20
Houston Boots 17
October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Got blocked for writing “Briens” name??! ha ha.
Ya…THE ROZ seems to be hesitant, like he’s playing it safe because he doesn’t want to get burned on the cut back and then he is too late. Couldn’t make a play even when not blocked.
He does not trust his teammates…..proved by his statements today.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Why not call out Wimbley also?
He sure has been underachieving since he got $$$$$$$$
Q has been our best LB by far this EARLY season.
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I’m calling out players 2day.
Wassup w/ Huffy?
He needs to suck it up and hit the field.
He also, got his $$$$$$ and hasn’t shown schit so far this early season.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
803.Raider Dell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
When was the last time the Raiders had a dominating WILL LB, ROD MARTIN any others.
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Last one we had that was even decent/good was Willie Thomas 2000-2001
October 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Is it to early to start thinking vontaze burfict!! Probably will be a top 5 pick…. he’s that good!! Awesome linebacker outta Arizona state!!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Once upon a time LA & BCZ were ROMAC’s biggest supporters in here.
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Biggest? Maybe a stretch, but definitely was on board with the pick. Getting smart football player (the smartest ever coached by Nick Saban) fresh off a National Championship, picked for production and intelligence over height/weight/speed.
The guy just seems very immature.
That being said, he’s still better than Kirk, just not as well-spoken and not as snappy a dresser, lol.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Dell Eric Barton wasnt too bad for us either
October 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Really? Next you will turn to Isl@m and become a Democr@t
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ROG,
nah – my wife would borrow my 9mm and cash in my life insurance policy before that ever happens
October 4th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Man I still wished we would of drafted Mason Foster at LB.
Oh well.
Thats old news.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
806.BabySlash Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Got blocked for writing “Briens” name??! ha ha.
Ya…THE ROZ seems to be hesitant, like he’s playing it safe because he doesn’t want to get burned on the cut back and then he is too late. Couldn’t make a play even when not blocked.
He does not trust his teammates…..proved by his statements today.
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Man….there is always heat against the B.auce
October 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
812.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Really? Next you will turn to Isl@m and become a Democr@t
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ROG,
nah – my wife would borrow my 9mm and cash in my life insurance policy before that ever happens
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jihad and socialism? excuse me RRS
October 4th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Dell Eric Barton wasnt too bad for us either
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Physically weak,not strong at the point of attack. William Thomas was older, and yes good but had some years on him.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
William Thomas was damn good.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
he’s still better than Kirk, just not as well-spoken and not as snappy a dresser
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LA,
Kirk Morrison > McLame 24/7
PLUS ——
Kirk was due 2.5 million on a 1-year contract
Al Davis gave ROMAC $40 million
October 4th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Al Davis gave ROMAC $40 million
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
RRS
It’s worth 10 mill today.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
those Texas are pretty cocky right now. They have some swagger, but seem to lose their head a bit at key moments.
We have to pound the rock and stack the box…..Strangely, we are a man to man D, why can’t we stop the run when we can stack the box and cover WR’s one on one with a SS on the TE.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Rolando McClain is the Bresnahan of MIKE LB’s.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Dakota
Hope all is well, miss your encouraging comments.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
ROG,
DHB contributes to the passing game. He’s gonna have 4 or 5 more big games for us this season
question is… how do you like your crow?
October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RRS,
Didn’t we get Jacoby outta that Kirk trade?
Plus, if we really wanted, we could have just signed him again in the offseason.
No, I’ll roll with McBosworth for now. He’s been put on the Not-Ready-For-Primetime List along with DHB.
He has a ‘high ceiling’ though.
If he stinks for as long as Kirk did, please save this post to file and I will admit you were right.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Kirk is playing special teams for Buffalo. He tweaked his hammy and was deactivated a few weeks back.
Maybe we should send him an INET get well card.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Rod Martin was a beast. Weird he gets no credit as a great LB….except from us.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Romac…. dhb…. jamarcus…..gallery… huff. …. !!! LMAO!! What’a fricken waste of money!! Thanks dmac for not making that list..
October 4th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
823.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
ROG,
DHB contributes to the passing game. He’s gonna have 4 or 5 more big games for us this season
question is… how do you like your crow?
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Usually i like my crow well done and on time….DHB not so much
October 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
It’s worth 10 mill today.
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Dell,
who knows? you’re the financial guru!
$40 million for McClain is like one of those contracts we gave to Javon Walker, Gibril Wilson, Kwame Harris, DeAngelo Hall or Tommy Kelly a few years ago
JaWalrus is another one we’re all trying hard to forget
October 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Comment From Ron Mexico
What do you think is the biggest mistake Hue has made so far?
12:48
Steve Corkran: Playing Heyward-Bey so much.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
We could have kept Kirk and Howard as backups at an ok price. Better than the non-exsitant back ups we have now at LB.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
back 2 work
later gents!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Non Raider news…
According to Pro Football Focus, quarterbacks throwing at Darrelle Revis have a passer rating of 3.6 through four games.
Revis has allowed just three receptions in four games. He draws NFL and fantasy receiving leader Wes Welker in a prime Week 5 matchup. Welker averaged 6.7 receptions, 58.3 yards, and 0.7 touchdowns in three meetings with the Jets last year.
Related: Wes Welker
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Who wins this match-up?
Welker or Revis
October 4th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
830.r8dercain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Comment From Ron Mexico
What do you think is the biggest mistake Hue has made so far?
12:48
Steve Corkran: Playing Heyward-Bey so much.
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LMAO too funny
October 4th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
830.r8dercain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Comment From Ron Mexico
What do you think is the biggest mistake Hue has made so far?
12:48
Steve Corkran: Playing Heyward-Bey so much.
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LMAO too funny
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I guess Cork was a Nicky Miller fan.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Comment From ROG ROG: ]
Steve, with Hagan’s 7 of 10 catches going for first downs do you think he has shown enough to be our possession WR and starter?
Tuesday October 4, 2011 1:12 ROG
1:12 Steve Corkran: Not sure about being the starter, but he deserves more playing time, yes. Solid player all the way around.
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lol Steve answered
October 4th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
# BabySlash Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Those vids from Nice Ninja are money. He showed how THE ROZ has no clue. The Roz was not even blocked and was slow and took the wrong angle and ended up making a tackle 8 yards off the LOS…..
Take on some blockers and deliver a BLOW Roz.
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actually the vido shows that tommy kelly runs into the gap that romac was assigned gets in romacs way and misses the tackle. This forced romac to change his angle and pursue from behind
October 4th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I think that Revis vs Welker match up is gonna be a huge test for both! Is Revis really the best CB in the NFl or is Welker the best receiver in the NFL. Sould be fun to watch!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I was a supporter, and recently have been on the fence. But no more. I watched the game again last night and McClain just does not have it. He seems like one of those kids that plays little league baseball or soccer that stares at the grass and chases butterflies. He is no MLB. No fire, no killer instinct.
Maybe the trainer should start slapping him in the face before games.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Funny cork says dhb is the 5 or 6tgh best wr on this team, but he and dmoore are our only guys with 100 yard games this year.
he also said dhb would take snaps from moore by starting, but dhb and moore started last week.
Im not sure i put much stock in corks assessment on this issue
October 4th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
840.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Funny cork says dhb is the 5 or 6tgh best wr on this team, but he and dmoore are our only guys with 100 yard games this year.
he also said dhb would take snaps from moore by starting, but dhb and moore started last week.
Im not sure i put much stock in corks assessment on this issue
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I do….DHB 100 yd game is a farce thats why I hate stats gbecuz they easily can mislead you
October 4th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
DHB caught good yards bit did you see two 3rd down drops which hit his hands squarely which would’ve been first downs I’d he caught them?
Don’t know if he had anything to do with that 1st interception or not
October 4th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Raider cane…. did corky really say that? Lmao!! That is classic!!! Hues biggest mistake this season is playing dhb too much!! I hope its true!” LOL.. because its the truth!!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
morilla Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I was a supporter, and recently have been on the fence. But no more. I watched the game again last night and McClain just does not have it. He seems like one of those kids that plays little league baseball or soccer that stares at the grass and chases butterflies.
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LMAO
Sounds like my little nephew at football practice
October 4th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
We should trade our 1st round pick for a good vet again. Did you look at our 1st round pick history?? UGLY!!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Without looking it up.
Who lead the NFL in dropped passes last season????
October 4th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Our D went from upper 3rd level to #29 this year. Almost dead last defense. We should’ve kept our D coordinator
October 4th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
842.raiderzmaverick Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
DHB caught good yards bit did you see two 3rd down drops which hit his hands squarely which would’ve been first downs I’d he caught them?
Don’t know if he had anything to do with that 1st interception or not
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I was right there…he sure did
October 4th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Before trams could run on us at will. Now they can pass or run on us at will.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
He doesn’t suck the difference is Qb’s are going at him. He is just overrated like I been saying.
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Nnamdi sucks in Philly
October 4th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
By week 8 does Waufle take over for Bres ?
October 4th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Dropped passes: Was it braylon edwards?
October 4th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
DHB is starting because he’s a Z and Ford/Moore are X’s & Y’s
lmfao @ SeymourGlenn
October 4th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Our LB unit is one of the worst in the league.
But our offense is improved and will keep us in most games
October 4th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Not making up excuses for the D. Not a fan of Chuck, neither am I a hater.
I just want to see what the D looks like w/ a full healthy squad. Huff, MM, Sho Nasty, DVD, CJ and so on…..
Just sayin though
October 4th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
daraider09 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Dropped passes: Was it braylon edwards?
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Nice try
October 4th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Not making up excuses for the D. Not a fan of Chuck, neither am I a hater.
I just want to see what the D looks like w/ a full healthy squad. Huff, MM, Sho Nasty, DVD, CJ and so on…..
Just sayin though
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We all know its the next man up, but we all saw what our 2nd stringers looked like in the preseason.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
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October 4th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
The loss of Goethel was bad very bad for us, and it shows that kid has got to get and stay healthy.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
The loss of Goethel was bad very bad for us, and it shows that kid has got to get and stay healthy.
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After major back and knee surgery im afraid that ship has sailed..
October 4th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
If DHB drops 8 passes and catches 55-60 for 800+ yards and 5 TD’s I’ll take it all day everyday.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Waffles don’t wanna be DC. Would be Rod if anything.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
tj,
DHB is having the breakout season you predicted after working his tail off all off season, right ?
October 4th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Rod has been a NFL coach for 5 mins he isnt near def coor material yet.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I’ve gone bad a watched all four Raider games on my DVR and the one thing that I can say is Rolando SUCKS!!! Next game watch how often he plugs the wrong hole and lets the RB run for chucks of yards. I don’t see him fight off blockers at the point of attack. The only reason he has made some plays in coverage is cuz he is so damn tall he jumps to break up the pass BUT when he does it cuz his ass got beat down the field in the first place. Chucky needs to get canned and more importantly Hue needs to ride their ass ALL practice and make them play up to the offensive, period.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
The problem is clueless one he will drop many more than 8 and he is currently on pace for 0 TD’s.
Braindead
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# priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
If DHB drops 8 passes and catches 55-60 for 800+ yards and 5 TD’s I’ll take it all day everyday.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Dont ever call Bresnahan Chucky please.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Rod has been a NFL coach for 5 mins he isnt near def coor material yet
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Bresh has been an NFL coach for 20 years and he isn’t near defensive coordinator material yet either.
Not advocating for Rod, just saying it won’t be Wauffle. Or I doubt it based on his own comments.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I know everyone is concerned about the D.
Should our special teams also be a concern?
They’ve given up to many yards on returns
+ They can’t get passed the 20 yd line on kick returns
October 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Point noted DeuceDuece. I tell hate his ass
October 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Where’s Wink Martindale??
October 4th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I know everyone is concerned about the D.
Should our special teams also be a concern?
They’ve given up to many yards on returns
+ They can’t get passed the 20 yd line on kick returns
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Were lucky Seabass has been a touchback machine, if not i wouldnt be surprised if we would have gave up a few TDs on kick returns..
Hiram Eugene is missed
October 4th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I know everyone is concerned about the D.
Should our special teams also be a concern?
They’ve given up to many yards on returns
+ They can’t get passed the 20 yd line on kick returns
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Were lucky Seabass has been a touchback machine, if not i wouldnt be surprised if we would have gave up a few TDs on kick returns..
Hiram Eugene is missed
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Yeah,
my boy “stiff armed” Eugene has been missed
October 4th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
“DHB is starting because he’s a Z and Ford/Moore are X’s & Y’s”
DHB is starting because our owner has paid him a butt load of cash and wants production, Al is not ready to let him sit even though we have players that can play above his level sitting.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I wouldn’t have hired Bres and Rod isnt ready for def coor. Al has really F’d up our D with the Bres hiring. I wonder where we would be with Marshall right now.
3-1 ?
October 4th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In other news thank you Zach Miller. Without you leaving we wouldnt have improved at the TE position. Boss.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Boss gets his first TD reception w/ the silver and black this weekend.
Print that!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
During the off season we went after Darren Perry in Green Bay and Dennis Thurman in NY as defensive coordinators but both were kept by their current teams and were not allowed to interview with us if I remember correctly so Chuck B got the job by default.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Amanda Knox is hot!
Print that!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
During the off season we went after Darren Perry in Green Bay and Dennis Thurman in NY as defensive coordinators but both were kept by their current teams and were not allowed to interview with us if I remember correctly so Chuck B got the job by default.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
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I think you stand correct
October 4th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
I am so glad DHB is an Oakland Raider, first round project, in his third year and steadily progressing.
WHY?
It keeps the vitriol juices flowing up in here. People flat losing their minds thinking about him.
Goast is the funniest.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Amanda Knox is hot!
Print that!
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Does she Knox em’ out the park?
October 4th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
During the off season we went after Darren Perry in Green Bay and Dennis Thurman in NY as defensive coordinators but both were kept by their current teams and were not allowed to interview with us if I remember correctly so Chuck B got the job by default.
Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
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Pagano also.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Compared to a dogs ass yes.
wtf
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Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Amanda Knox is hot!
October 4th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Amanda Knox is hot!
Print that!
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Foxy Knoxy lost a bit of her looks doing those 4 years in that Italian prison.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Like this dogs ass?
http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2007/dog-ass-jesus2.jpg
October 4th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
“Foxy Knoxy lost a bit of her looks doing those 4 years in that Italian prison.”
Yeah but maybe all that hot lesbian action inside the walls of that Italian prison has made her more sexy than pretty.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Like this dogs ass?
http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2007/dog-ass-jesus2.jpg
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OMFG!! It’s Jeebus!!!
LMFAO!!
October 4th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
DHB is starting because he’s a Z and Ford/Moore are X’s & Y’s
lmfao @ SeymourGlenn
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You don’t understand do you? Try taking up knitting.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Those are pretty sweet videos on that Ninja website. Should be mandatory semi-pro “film” review.
The best part of the Soup end zone INT, is when he pauses both screens right when Soup realeases the ball.
Both Pats corners are inbounds, looking at Soup breaking on the ball.
DHB is out of bounds, with his head looking towards B@uce in the North End Zone, and ultimately, running the wrong way.
SMH.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
worst thing about a Raiders loss….. Sullivan44 shows up on the board. Raiders win, and he is ‘busy at work’.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
that peskey DHW, he’s such a bastich,,
October 4th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
‘busy at work’.???????????????????????????????????????????
Don’t think so
October 4th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Bill Williamson piling on Boz:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
October 4th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Why does everyone say Rolando McDouble struggles in coverage? I think he actually decent against the pass w/ those long azz arms, but is horrible against the run.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
lmao
JC didnt throw DHB under the bus publicly but I’m sure he is in Hue’s ear daily about playing 10 on 11.
But he is a “Z”
lol
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# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
DHB is out of bounds, with his head looking towards B@uce in the North End Zone, and ultimately, running the wrong way.
SMH.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Why does everyone say Rolando McDouble struggles in coverage? I think he actually decent against the pass w/ those long azz arms, but is horrible against the run.
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He’s good at deep zone coverage. Other than that he cant stay with anyone man 2 man, backs out of the backfield.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I think he actually decent against the pass w/ those long azz arms, but is horrible against the run.
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I’m with you.
Most MLB’s are awful in coverage, Rolando is average at worst.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I wouldn’t have hired Bres and Rod isnt ready for def coor. Al has really F’d up our D with the Bres hiring. I wonder where we would be with Marshall right now.
3-1 ?
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Chucky B = Plan B
October 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Seymour. Campbell was the goat of the game… its a given!! But I know he’s not a bad player….. now defending dhb by saying every team needs a big wide receiver is laughable. … especially if that receiver stinks like dhb!! Your in his cornet but your running outta ways to defend him… he doesn’t have to be a starter!” Dmoore should play more than dhb!! Period!
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I don’t know if I would say Campbell was the goat of the game. Considering for over the lst half of the game he outplayed Brady and we were still down.
There are two things that some of you just don’t seem to get. lst off, even amongst units, positions are not interchangeable. In other words, an ILB is not an OLB. A FB is not a HB or a QB. Flankers are different from Split Ends or Slot Receivers. They play different positions and they do different things. A right corner and a left corner are completely different positions. Haven’t you ever heard Offensive linemen talk about how difficult it is to move from one side to of the line to the other?
Then you have the issue with guys like Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson, Roddy White who really did not play well their first few years in the league and became Pro Bowl players. Yeah I know, I wanted DHB to come into the league catch 98 balls for 1895 yards and 22 scores his rookie year too. He is getting better. That’s what happened to Johnson, Bowe, jackson and White.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Comment From rodsdays
I respect your negativity but I’m really starting to lose faith
Steve Corkran: Don’t take any of this as negativity. I can tell you what you want to hear or I can speak the truth and present facts. I choose the latter.
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A-Men, So many bloggers here (Brien and his ilk) whine like hell, unless you’re a mindless cheerleader.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Chuck was plan E. On the staff while we were actively pursuing better candidates.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
[..] DHB [..] not a playmker [..] Moore, Hagan, Ford and DMAC are the [..] staples of Raider playmakers..
October 4th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Let’s just hope the kid uses the criticism to get him on track. After all, he’s only in his 2nd year and he’s only about 22 years old.
He sure does need to get his schit together though.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Chuck was plan E. On the staff while we were actively pursuing better candidates.
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Ya he was LB coach/D Coordinator if Al couldnt get anyone else.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Why does everyone say Rolando McDouble struggles in coverage? I think he actually decent against the pass w/ those long azz arms, but is horrible against the run.
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He is decent against the pass and horrible against the run. Overall Grade: D-
October 4th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Let’s just hope the kid uses the criticism to get him on track. After all, he’s only in his 2nd year and he’s only about 22 years old.
He sure does need to get his schit together though.
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Totally agree. He’s only 22. DMAC took 3 years. My criticism of McClain is more knee jerk. But im not totally giving up on him until next year.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Although I dont see how he gets any faster in year 3
October 4th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Bill Romo blasting McClain….I hope he does take it as constructive criticism and attack the ball! We need him to step up now!
October 4th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Let’s just hope the kid uses the criticism to get him on track. After all, he’s only in his 2nd year and he’s only about 22 years old.
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This is the silver lining.
Somebody posted McFadden’s stats from his 3rd game (this was after Jets game I think) of his 2nd season. He had less than 50 yards with a sub 3.0 avg and 3 fumbles. Think it was against Broncos?
McFadden’s excuse is injury, coaches not catering to his strengths. McClain maybe has that second one going for him but at least McFadden ran into his own blockers at 150 MPH!!
October 4th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Don’t know McClain at all in person, but he seems like a cocky azzhole. Just my opinion.
Let’s see how he handles the criticism.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Biekert not catching any heat for our LB’s
October 4th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Biekert not catching any heat for our LB’s
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He is now.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Foster the biggest test our “run D” will face all year
October 4th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Those are pretty sweet videos on that Ninja website. Should be mandatory semi-pro “film” review.
The best part of the Soup end zone INT, is when he pauses both screens right when Soup realeases the ball.
Both Pats corners are inbounds, looking at Soup breaking on the ball.
DHB is out of bounds, with his head looking towards B@uce in the North End Zone, and ultimately, running the wrong way.
SMH.
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That dudes channel is really sweet. Subscribed.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
I just saw the best tackling by anyone wearing a Raider uniform in 10 years. Wilforks INT… DMAC runs to him, puts his hat in front of the ball carrier and wraps up, now grated, that was like DMAC trying to tackle a Volkswagen, but it was perfect form tackling. Have DMAC run some tackling drills! Our defense can learn a thing or too.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Biekert not catching any heat for our LB’s
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Heh, I was kinda wondering when MB’s eye of truth was going to focus on the LB coach.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Blaming Defensive players while Al Davis and his 40 year old Defense are in total control is ridiculous.
Opposing Coaches have been looking at that thing for the last 40 years, and know it waaaaay better than Rolando Mcclain, ever will.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Blaming Defensive players while Al Davis and his 40 year old Defense are in total control is ridiculous.
Opposing Coaches have been looking at that thing for the last 40 years, and know it waaaaay better than Rolando Mcclain, ever will.
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Krappy bringing the pain.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Krappy you should coach football, you have all the answers.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
KK tried coaching but he kept eating his whistle
October 4th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Blaming Defensive players while Al Davis and his 40 year old Defense are in total control is ridiculous.
Opposing Coaches have been looking at that thing for the last 40 years, and know it waaaaay better than Rolando Mcclain, ever will.
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Get your point but we’re playing a lot more zone last 2 years than we have in recent memory.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Old Krappy could coach up some pee wees, the dude is a football genius.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
LA do not believe your lying eyes. Krappy sees the same old, thus it is truth.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Old Krappy could coach up some pee wees, the dude is a football genius.
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I tried but was asked to step down when I told several kids they didn’t have Raider Speed and only their moms looked good getting off the bus.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Kooool Kellll, why you always lettin people diss on you? whats’up wit that? you need to stand up for yourself, and quit lettin people hammerin on you so much, what is up wit that?
quit takin it up the blow hole and start puttin a stop to all that dissin. just immature and ridiculous!
October 4th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
He had less than 50 yards with a sub 3.0 avg and 3 fumbles. Think it was against Broncos?
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That was me.
3rd game of his 2nd year, Darren had 12 carries for 45 yards, 2 receptions for 3 yards, and 3 FUMBLES.
He follows that up in his 4th game of his second year (where we are at today with McClain) with an epic 6 carries for -2 yards and a knee injury.
So all is not lost in the world of Rolando.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
So all is not lost in the world of Rolando.
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I am not writing Romac off ON the field. He is on my sh1tlist for his postgame comments. He through the rest of the D under the bus. Very Jamarcus-esque. He displays the leadership qualities you would expect from MR not and an NFL MLB
October 4th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
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October 4th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwGpUxl4ROY
I had this same reaction to the Campbell int. WTF!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Didn’t like Rolando’s comments, but would like to have heard the interview as a whole. I have been getting quotes here and there but not the entirity. Either way though, bad choice of words.
But can’t quite call it Jamarcus-esque. Although I didn’t hear it, I’m sure Rolando didn’t mumble it, while wearing a fur coat, and with the plan of showing up late to work on Wednesday.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I think the issue is improvement. McFadden was useless his lst two years. Veldheer was pretty average early started playing well, and now is really playing well. There are waaaaaay more stories of guys who developed than guys who just came in the league and dominated for 10 years. Tony Gonzalez did not start his lst year, and only had 2 scores his 2nd year starting every game and dude is going to end up being the best TE ever.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
The difference between Veldheer & McFadden, and Mcclain, is that the former get to play for contemporary, current, present-day coaching.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
McFadden was off to a great start his rookie year and then turf toe sidelined him. And then Cable thought it would be a good idea to split carries between Fargas/Bush/McFadden.
Cable is an idiot and you so are you.
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I think the issue is improvement. McFadden was useless his lst two years.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think the difference between Veldheer/Mcfadden and McClain is the Veldheer and McFadden improved while McClain is seemingly regressing. That’s what happened to Ja-bust-us.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
McFadden was off to a great start his rookie year and then turf toe sidelined him. And then Cable thought it would be a good idea to split carries between Fargas/Bush/McFadden.
Cable is an idiot and you so are you.
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STFU you moron. He played in 13 games his rookie year with slighty better than average numbers. have you ever gotten anything right? What a fuktard.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
SeymourGlenn, you said he was useless his first 2 years now you say he put up better than average numbers!
I cant debate you until you pull your head out of your anus.
lmao
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# Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
STFU you moron. He played in 13 games his rookie year with slighty better than average numbers. have you ever gotten anything right? What a fuktard.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Seymour, Brown is correct. McFadden was rippin KC up in his 2nd career game and got double turf toe and a shoulder injury. Wasn’t right until TN game last year it seems.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
STFU you moron. He played in 13 games his rookie year with slighty better than average numbers.
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I think the issue is improvement. McFadden was useless his lst two years.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
But can’t quite call it Jamarcus-esque. Although I didn’t hear it, I’m sure Rolando didn’t mumble it, while wearing a fur coat, and with the plan of showing up late to work on Wednesday.
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point taken.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
SeyGlenn is a beauty he contradicts himself in less than 10 mins time span.
haha
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I remember that 2nd game of D-Mac’s career.
We ran for like 300 yards, and Jamarcus still almost found a way to blow it.
I remember we ran multiple sweeps and draws on 3rd and 12’s, and converted them.
KC’s DC should have been canned immediately after the game.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think the difference between Veldheer/Mcfadden and McClain is the Veldheer and McFadden improved while McClain is seemingly regressing. That’s what happened to Ja-bust-us.
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The difference between Veldheer & McFadden, and Mcclain, is that the former get to play for 21st century coaching.
On what basis would you compare McClain to JaMarcus Russell, other than a lame attempt to protect Al Davis?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Mcfadden carried the rock approx 200 times for approx 800 yards combined his lst two years with 8 fumbles! He was an extreme liability in protections. To me, that is pedestrian at best and useless at worst. Depending on how you want to look at it.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
KK, can you repeat that 3 more times for your fellow alzheimers patients ?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
That was also the game, when Fargas got injured, when Kiffin lined him up on the outside and threw a jump-ball to him.
Fargas, with the worst hands ever, lining up on the outside catching 30 yard fades.
LOL….Kiffin sucked!!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
You said he was better than average!
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# Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
To me, that is pedestrian at best and useless at worst. Depending on how you want to look at it.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think the difference between Veldheer/Mcfadden and McClain is the Veldheer and McFadden improved while McClain is seemingly regressing. That’s what happened to Ja-bust-us.
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The difference between Veldheer & McFadden, and Mcclain, is that the former get to play for 21st century coaching.
On what basis would you compare McClain to JaMarcus Russell, other than a lame attempt to protect Al Davis?
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What part of they are regressing do you not seem to understand?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
901.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Comment From rodsdays
I respect your negativity but I’m really starting to lose faith
Steve Corkran: Don’t take any of this as negativity. I can tell you what you want to hear or I can speak the truth and present facts. I choose the latter.
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A-Men, So many bloggers here (Brien and his ilk) whine like hell, unless you’re a mindless cheerleader.
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You coward ass phaggot…I tellthe truth but still hype us up for w in each and every week…..so go fk urself cuz Jackie Kelly sure aint doing it
October 4th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
SeymourGlenn,
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LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Seymour, Brown is correct.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Jamista, how are your Cleveland Browns doing?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Seymour, after you called for DMAC to be redshirted his rookie year now you are working OT to throw him under the bus!
POS
October 4th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
2009 Oakland Raiders 12 7 104 357 3.4 28 1 21 245 11.7 48 0 5 3
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McFadden 09 7 starts 100+ carries, 3.4 ave, 5 fumbles, 3 lost. Those are not very good numbers. Now you can give him any excuse you want, but I thought you guys didn’t make excuses.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
For all you Al Davis detractors, the prosecutors in the Michael Jackson case used an overhead projector.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Seymour, after you called for DMAC to be redshirted his rookie year now you are working OT to throw him under the bus!
POS
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You are not a very smart person are you? You have always been a moron, but lately you’ve been regressing. If that’s possible.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
STFU you moron. He played in 13 games his rookie year with slighty better than average numbers.
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# Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
McFadden 09 7 starts 100+ carries, 3.4 ave, 5 fumbles, 3 lost. Those are not very good numbers. Now you can give him any excuse you want, but I thought you guys didn’t make excuses.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
For all you Al Davis detractors, the prosecutors in the Michael Jackson case used an overhead projector.
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LMAO!!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
So, his lst year he had slightly better than ave numbers, his second year he was terrible. Seems pretty useless to me. Unless you don’t know what the word useless means right Ja-mista?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
SeyGlen just keep contradicting yourself, dig that ditch deeper, get a bigger shovel your going to need it!
lol
October 4th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
682.Silverandblack666 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Amanda Knox is Hot!!
Print that.
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Printed. Noted. And seconded.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Have you given up making a moron of yourself yet Ja-mista? Or are you going to tell me 100 carries, 3.4 ave with 5 fumbles is blowing up!!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Give me the Anthony chick over Knox any day
October 4th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
After the prosecuter lit up the overhead, the Judge asked for the lights to be dimmed. I looked all around but did not see Lance in the courtroom.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Knox is a absolute dog.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Did that fat Bacon and Pasta eatin M-f’er Tony Pigagousa die of a Heart Attack? I haven’t seen his 150# head on TV this year??
October 4th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
It’s OK Ja-mista. Here I will make it easy for you as usual. The reason we lost against NE is Richard Seymour. And Jason Campbell. And Janikowsky.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
SeymourGlen,
Lets have a recap shall we:
You said DMAC was better than average.
You said DMAC was useless.
Okie doke!
lol
October 4th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Sorry sports fans. I keep forgetting you have to dumb it down for Ja-mista. And I mean REALLY dumb it down.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
So all is not lost in the world of Rolando.
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I think we can call it on Rolando right now. The guy isn’t going to get faster or smarter. Charlie Casserly called it the night before the draft and everything he said has simply been confirmed over the past two years.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Give me the Anthony chick over Knox any day
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I may have lost respect for you. Until then next time I play you in FFL, I’ll remember your statement.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
mods on me lol
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
SeyBush…DMAC should have started day 1….DHB sorry ass has right?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
I don’t know if it is a lack of smarts on Rolando’s part, or a lack of instincts. The kid was supposed to have a high football IQ, so my money is on a lack of instincts.
He may know what he is supposed to do, but when the play is unfolding he is constantly out of position.
Rarely have you seen him hit the right hole and make a stop at the LOS.
And the worst part is watching him jog around the field. No hustle. I thought he would be a high effort guy, but he is LAZY. Once the play is past him he jogs, while other players are sprinting behind the play in case something happens or in case they can still make the play. Not Rolando, he is a quitter.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
830.r8dercain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Comment From Ron Mexico
What do you think is the biggest mistake Hue has made so far?
12:48
Steve Corkran: Playing Heyward-Bey so much.
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LMAO too funny
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Nope! Biggest mistake was old man Al and Huey hiring Chuck B as the DC!
The D is regressing because of it, and it will cost this team wins this year!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
SeyBush…DMAC should have started day 1….DHB sorry ass has right?
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Two problems with that. lst off, as Ja-mista somehow cannot grasp, Dmac continually put the rock on the ground early in his career. You cannot do that. You guys somehow have forgotten that. That’s why Dmac was not playing. 2ndly, Dmac and Bush were liabilities in protections their lst years. DHB does not have those issues or responsibilities.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
mods on me lol
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Experienced, cross-posting Trolls like yourself, know how to get around the Mods, don’t ya?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Brahs I’ve been working on my new RoMac diss song, tentatively titled “Homie Be Wack”, check out some of these tight lyrics
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo jiggity yo
My name is Ro Mac and I’m totally wack
Instead of a Whopper I bust a Big Mac
Why, you say? Am I Bobby Flay?
It just tastes better cause I’m totally gay
Gonna drop the theme song from the Golden Girls behind it (with some 808 poppin, you know whats up) and ship off my demo to Rick Rubin.
Should be headlining House of Blues SD by November, them’s the facts
October 4th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I may have lost respect for you. Until then next time I play you in FFL, I’ll remember your statement.
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Unfortunately for you, when playing you in FFl, I lose respect for you (lol).
Great work commish!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
975.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
SeyBush…DMAC should have started day 1….DHB sorry ass has right?
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Two problems with that. lst off, as Ja-mista somehow cannot grasp, Dmac continually put the rock on the ground early in his career. You cannot do that. You guys somehow have forgotten that. That’s why Dmac was not playing. 2ndly, Dmac and Bush were liabilities in protections their lst years. DHB does not have those issues or responsibilities.
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ZZZZZZZZZ you were worng then about Dmac and you are still wrong Oakglenn.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Maybe Rolando is sagging behind on the play to try to find a lineman who he can try to sandbag a hold from?
The Raiders 2011 rush defense, feel the excitement!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
# Oakland Raiders [BREAKING NEWS] Blog on the high seas Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I wouldn’t have hired Bres and Rod isnt ready for def coor. Al has really F’d up our D with the Bres hiring. I wonder where we would be with Marshall right now.
3-1 ?
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Chucky B = Plan B
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If Marshall was the DC, we would have beat Buffalo probably and probably would have not lost by as many points against the Pats.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
977.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
mods on me lol
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Experienced, cross-posting Trolls like yourself, know how to get around the Mods, don’t ya?
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I’ve never cross post you moron….and you know that
October 4th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
I was on board with Al firing Marshall fo sho….dude almost never has a run D that is not in the bottom 3rd of the NFL…..but I had no idea Al would sort through the trash can to find a washed up DC even worse than Marshall.
Sometimes you regret getting what you wished for….then again I should have known better….what young assistant or self-respecting DC would want to come to Oakland and play puppet to Al’s meddling ways on the defense?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Give me the Anthony chick over Knox any day
The Raiders 2011 rush defense, feel the excitement!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
JFB (VEGAS) I hope to help you soon.
psychologytoday.com——–> Find a Therapist
October 4th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think the difference between Veldheer/Mcfadden and McClain is the Veldheer and McFadden improved while McClain is seemingly regressing. That’s what happened to Ja-bust-us.
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The difference between Veldheer & McFadden, and Mcclain, is that the former get to play for 21st century coaching.
On what basis would you compare McClain to JaMarcus Russell, other than a lame attempt to protect Al Davis?
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KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
mods on me lol
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Experienced, cross-posting Trolls like yourself, know how to get around the Mods, don’t ya?
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Krappy you are a weaselly chicken sh!t poot butt douche bag. You hide your ugly face after the Raids beat the Jets, but you some how drop your old man nut after the Raids lose to the Pats.
You are a sickening old wanker. Please have a coronary driving real fast between International and 66th on the 880 in that purty red vette. If you can be going north it would be much appreciated. Then you might also take a header into the Raids welcome sign. How great would that be?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
980.Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
975.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
SeyBush…DMAC should have started day 1….DHB sorry ass has right?
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Two problems with that. lst off, as Ja-mista somehow cannot grasp, Dmac continually put the rock on the ground early in his career. You cannot do that. You guys somehow have forgotten that. That’s why Dmac was not playing. 2ndly, Dmac and Bush were liabilities in protections their lst years. DHB does not have those issues or responsibilities.
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ZZZZZZZZZ you were worng then about Dmac and you are still wrong Oakglenn.
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RB’s first responsibility is to run the ball…DMAC has been our best RB from day 1. I care less about the early fumble issues…Farglass fumbled his damn self and couldnt make a fkin play SeyBush so dont gimme that weak schit. Farglass was embarrassing as your defense of his playtime. Man protection issues? You fool they are RBs run and catch then block is last priority………DHB doesnt have those issues? He has no talent! You evidently dont know what the fk you are talking about. DHB has made no impact plays that made a difference in games for us….just stop it…its sad
October 4th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
DHB is fkin horrible and SeyBush defends him…sad. You talk about DMAC 3.4 a carry….what about less than 50 fkin catches in 3 years for DHB…da fk?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
For your viewing pleasure Dakota.
Keep the drool to a minimum, huh.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NiceNinjaX#p/u/20/lQcUzITr4H4
October 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
2 fkin TDs in DHB’s career…2 TDs! Explain that Seybush….huh? Explain it!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
# Oakland Raiders [BREAKING NEWS] Blog on the high seas Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I wouldn’t have hired Bres and Rod isnt ready for def coor. Al has really F’d up our D with the Bres hiring. I wonder where we would be with Marshall right now.
3-1 ?
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Chucky B = Plan B
^^^^^^^^^
If Marshall was the DC, we would have beat Buffalo probably and probably would have not lost by as many points against the Pats.
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John Marshall wasnt a good DC, but it says alot that we all pine for him, now that Breshnahan is here..
very seldom does raider fans agree about anything, but hate for Breshnahan would unite the most… I even think BHP would support a firing of Bresh…
October 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fire Bres and replace him with who? Exactly you have no solution
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Drexel
A lot of adjectives in that first sentence. Are you thinking about writing a book, please begin. I’ll buy.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Dell,
Sobriety is taking it’s toll.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
LMN
How do you like the pretty new, blonde Prime Minister?
October 4th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Thanks Saint!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
LMN
How do you like the pretty new, blonde Prime Minister?
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Seriously? You got a thing for blond dudes? I guess that explains it,,,,,,,,,,
October 4th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Dell,
Sobriety is taking it’s toll.
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How sad, I apologize for your disability.
I liked you better the other way.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
No prob. You were right, that cat is a difference maker.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I liked you better the other way.
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Well, the cans of the household had the final vote.
I get plastered on Sunday, and am sober the other 155 hours of the week now.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
BIG GAME BIG GAME!!!!!! Our defense better come through and stop the Texans run game, then we have a chance as long as we keep running the ball and not put the game in the hands of JC.
Stick with what works Jackson! RUN RUN RUN! They can’t stop us!
October 4th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fire Bres and replace him with who? Exactly you have no solution
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as of now, anybody, if we wanna be a 8-8 team this year again we need to stop the prevent coach..
October 4th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
JC should pass 25 times and we run 40…i been saying this for the longest…smh
October 4th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
BIG GAME BIG GAME!!!!!! Our defense better come through and stop the Texans run game, then we have a chance as long as we keep running the ball and not put the game in the hands of JC.
Stick with what works Jackson! RUN RUN RUN! They can’t stop us!
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Smartest semi Pro Blogger west of the Mississippi.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
1002.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fire Bres and replace him with who? Exactly you have no solution
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as of now, anybody, if we wanna be a 8-8 team this year again we need to stop the prevent coach..
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Wont change bruh unless we get a stud on defense
October 4th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Love when Krappy tries to sneak a comment on the blog, gets pummeled, then waddles his over sized gut back to bed.
Putting a beat down on the old fool kinda feels bad, until you remember how much fun it is.
Wonder how many years its been since his last listing?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
LMN
How do you like the pretty new, blonde Prime Minister?
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it was time for a change, but some of the ministers i cant stand, but I guess that goes with whatever composition the government has..
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
1002.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fire Bres and replace him with who? Exactly you have no solution
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as of now, anybody, if we wanna be a 8-8 team this year again we need to stop the prevent coach..
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Wont change bruh unless we get a stud on defense
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stud DC? or Stud player?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Breshnahan is doing better than NE’s DC ………..uh oh! I forgot that’s Belichik………sorry!
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
LMN….did you stock up on butter, oil and lard before the tax increase?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
LMN
How do you like the pretty new, blonde Prime Minister?
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Seriously? You got a thing for blond dudes? I guess that explains it,,,,,,,,,,
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you such a s3xist =) LOL… no our new prime minister is a lady…
she looks like a strict school teacher =)
October 4th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
1004.Raider Dell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
BIG GAME BIG GAME!!!!!! Our defense better come through and stop the Texans run game, then we have a chance as long as we keep running the ball and not put the game in the hands of JC.
Stick with what works Jackson! RUN RUN RUN! They can’t stop us!
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Smartest semi Pro Blogger west of the Mississippi.
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his mullet cancels him out….Thec or Jhill get my vote for the semi pro faction….but the B@uce is Mercenary sniper ass cat on here
October 4th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
1008.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
1002.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Fire Bres and replace him with who? Exactly you have no solution
________________________________________________________
as of now, anybody, if we wanna be a 8-8 team this year again we need to stop the prevent coach..
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Wont change bruh unless we get a stud on defense
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stud DC? or Stud player?
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A stud onthe dline
October 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Don’t sleep on KBoss this week either. Should be in for a big week esp if Campbell gets some protection.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Breshnahan is doing better than NE’s DC ………..uh oh! I forgot that’s Belichik………sorry!
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Classic Al Davis, Bootlicker.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Brien, how do you think Al’s going to screw Hue eventually? And what’s your over/under for when it comes to a head?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Krappy, remind the blog again how much you hate name calling
# KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Breshnahan is doing better than NE’s DC ………..uh oh! I forgot that’s Belichik………sorry!
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Classic Al Davis, Bootlicker.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
1015.Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Brien, how do you think Al’s going to screw Hue eventually? And what’s your over/under for when it comes to a head?
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I think the Al-Hue relationship might begin to sour once Hue tries to pull a Kiffin and fire Chucky B. Who knows, maybe Al will agree with Hue though?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
If anything was proven Sunday, we’re not going to break the 8 win plane until Campbell’s gone. I’d rather take a scrappy QB with less of an arm than any a$$hole who throws a ball into the end zone where 3 defenders and no receivers are. Give Campbell his bus ticket back to Washington. Don’t even ask for a refund. Just get him out of here.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Who knows, maybe Al will agree with Hue though?
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Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Man, Hues guarantee of us winning the West is making headlines all all the sports websites lol.
GO HUE!
Better than Cable’s proclimation that “We’re not losers anymore!” lol
October 4th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Well, Cable’s proclamation was more accurate.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
La Milicia Negra Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
she used to look like this, which is quite okay…
online-news.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hellethorning-schmidt.jpg
now she looks like this…
kristeligt-dagblad.dk/modules/xphoto/cache/23/298823_656_700_0_0_0_0.jpg
October 4th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
We’re not that good of a team, and all Hue’s boasting does is provide locker room material for our division opponents. Now SD, Den, and KC are going to play us even tougher. That’s how this league is, and you know it.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
LMN….did you stock up on butter, oil and lard before the tax increase?
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you know me, im the favorite commie on this blog… I always vote for those who wants to increase the tax!
October 4th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Our offense is good enough to win the divsion if we had a good defense. But we have a horrid defense. And there is no way that it can be corrected this season, we have no depth.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Evening Raider fans and others!
Raiders 27 Texholes 24
Brien! How’d you like that Strawberry?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
LMN
Well you Skandi’s are doing something right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Poverty_Index
October 4th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Told you so…
After 4 games Oakland D ranks:
29th in total yds.
30th in pts allowed.
Fire the Piece of Trash Chuky B.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Thanks Krappy for the informative link.
Nerd
October 4th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
O yeah. Rod Woodson would be 100% better DC than Chuky.
And please keep force feeding DHB, he will keep catching 1 outa 3, most of them meaningless passes.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
What? Chaz Schillens doesn’t have 1000 yds and 15 TD yet? I thought he was already annointed the number 1 rec on the team. lmao. Denarius Moore should be starting. No doubt about that. Ford and Murphy hurt sure doesn’t help, but where is this remarkable Chaz i keep hearing about? Hagan is the second best WR on the team.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
2 fkin TDs in DHB’s career…2 TDs! Explain that Seybush….huh? Explain it!
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Two Words: Jamarcus Russell
October 4th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I don’t understand the cry to raise taxes. When the banksters went broke the Fed bailed them out by giving them billions in computer generated money.
Ordinary boobs are broke too. Let the Fed with their Keynesian magic just print up, oh say 10 trillion, and pass it to us boobs, end of problem.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Oh, yeah. Our defense is shi# just like it always is. We are going to have to average 40 points a game offensively if we want to make the playoffs. No joke.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
975.Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
SeyBush…DMAC should have started day 1….DHB sorry ass has right?
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Two problems with that. lst off, as Ja-mista somehow cannot grasp, Dmac continually put the rock on the ground early in his career. You cannot do that. You guys somehow have forgotten that. That’s why Dmac was not playing. 2ndly, Dmac and Bush were liabilities in protections their lst years. DHB does not have those issues or responsibilities.
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ZZZZZZZZZ you were worng then about Dmac and you are still wrong Oakglenn.
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No I wasn’t. I have always loved Darren McFadden. I have always thought McFadden was going to be an excellent player. As any football coach at any level will tell you Turnovers are the difference in wins and losses. That’s the difference in our last game. When a player coughed it up as much as McFadden did early in his career he is not going to see the field. Sorry.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Career TDs:
DHB 2
De Moore 3
Chaz 5
Jacoby 7
DHB. More initials than TDs
October 4th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Man, RoMac is turing into Napoleon Harris.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
DHB is fkin horrible and SeyBush defends him…sad. You talk about DMAC 3.4 a carry….what about less than 50 fkin catches in 3 years for DHB…da fk?
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The point I am making in all of this is Dmac was not very good his first two years. And I think I remember many a call from the fans to get rid of him. His 3rd year he excelled. This is DHB’s 3rd year. As I said in training camp, this is a make or break year for him. So far, he has improved. I am certainly not writing him off right now. Give Moore some of DHB’s and Shilen’s snaps. I’m fine with that.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
So how many Decoy TDs are credited to DHB?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
MR…too funny you can acknowledge the B@uce after a loss but all last week you wouldnt respond to me. Youre a coward. Hue wont overstep his zone with Al for damn sure
October 4th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Fool SeyGlenn….there hella games he wouldnt even get 10 touches so what u are saying is bullschit….mjaor league bullschit
October 4th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
ghostraiders Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Seymour. Campbell was the goat of the game… its a given!! But I know he’s not a bad player….. now defending dhb by saying every team needs a big wide receiver is laughable. … especially if that receiver stinks like dhb!! Your in his cornet but your running outta ways to defend him… he doesn’t have to be a starter!” Dmoore should play more than dhb!! Period!
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I don’t know if I would say Campbell was the goat of the game. Considering for over the lst half of the game he outplayed Brady and we were still down.
There are two things that some of you just don’t seem to get. lst off, even amongst units, positions are not interchangeable. In other words, an ILB is not an OLB. A FB is not a HB or a QB. Flankers are different from Split Ends or Slot Receivers. They play different positions and they do different things. A right corner and a left corner are completely different positions. Haven’t you ever heard Offensive linemen talk about how difficult it is to move from one side to of the line to the other?
Then you have the issue with guys like Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson, Roddy White who really did not play well their first few years in the league and became Pro Bowl players. Yeah I know, I wanted DHB to come into the league catch 98 balls for 1895 yards and 22 scores his rookie year too. He is getting better. That’s what happened to Johnson, Bowe, jackson and White.
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Exactly, please study up and keep up, or just shut up
October 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Dmac 2nd game ever 21 carries 164 yards td…..better than any justification u lie for DHB starting cuz now u are lying
October 4th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Better? DHB is starting for the 3rd year in a row….no justifying that madness
October 4th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Dmac 2nd game ever 21 carries 164 yards td…..better than any justification u lie for DHB starting cuz now u are lying
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I remember that game well. What did he do after that?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
DHB= DROPS HELLA BALLS……10 ON 11 SPECIAL
October 4th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
What has DHB EVER FKIN DONE?
October 4th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
All of you ripping Dhb are abnormal, focus on the weakness, slow linebackers. Anybody want to challenge me bring it on I will rip you negative Neanderthals!
October 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Better? DHB is starting for the 3rd year in a row….no justifying that madness
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if you remember “Jivin” Walker was supposed to be the starter. We all remember how that worked out.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
After kc 08…name last time dmac got 20 touch glenny boy……yeah i thought so…..checkmate with ease
October 4th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Walker wads startin in 09? Really? come on…fail job glenny
October 4th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Walker was suppose to start in 09? lol checkmate glenny….try again
October 4th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Romac has the 6th most tackles for a mlb in the nfl. he is number 15 amongst all linebackers, he is tied with Ray lewis with 30 tackles. he has more tackles than urlacher and willis. He isnt as bad as he is being made out to be in here. Super star not yet, servicable and then some.
The biggest issue is wimbly and groves arent even in the top 70 amongst linebackers in tackling (groves is 74th wimbly is 88th), and d line players running out of their gaps.
Looks like romac is this years whipping boy just as dhb and Jc were last year, and dmac the year before that
October 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Moore leads our recievers with 12 catches, DHB has 9, not much differnce imo
October 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
If anything was proven Sunday, we’re not going to break the 8 win plane until Campbell’s gone. I’d rather take a scrappy QB with less of an arm than any a$$hole who throws a ball into the end zone where 3 defenders and no receivers are. Give Campbell his bus ticket back to Washington. Don’t even ask for a refund. Just get him out of here.
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Your inability to see and respond to fact is astonishing.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
# bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
If anything was proven Sunday, we’re not going to break the 8 win plane until Campbell’s gone. I’d rather take a scrappy QB with less of an arm than any a$$hole who throws a ball into the end zone where 3 defenders and no receivers are. Give Campbell his bus ticket back to Washington. Don’t even ask for a refund. Just get him out of here.
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Your inability to see and respond to fact is astonishing.
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consider the source
October 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Walker was suppose to start in 09? lol checkmate glenny….try again
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Look it up. You think we signed him to a multi year 3 trillion dollar contract for nothing? Al doesn’t work that way.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
FACT:
Campbell threw to an area in the end zone where there were 3 Pats and not a single Raider. That pick changed the momentum of the game. At least one former Raider player, a pro bowler and Super Bowl champion, at that, has said as much. Your inability to see that is astonishing.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
LMN
Well you Skandi’s are doing something right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Poverty_Index
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KK..
LOL
yeah, and we are still considered socialist, but all countries in the world loves to trade with us, so I think the term is a bit misused =)
as far as the list
“People lacking functional literacy skills” and “Population below 50% of median income” are the ones I value the most, it really shows what a country is worth, I guess thats why we each year win the “the most happy country award” LOL but to be honest we need to do better in the death rate, I guess its because we drink too much, and too early it has a price! That said I talked to a professor the other day, he said all should be happy if they died at 65, no-one should be that old and be envious on life.. I dont know if he meant it or if it was a joke, but I sure can see some sense in it!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Your inability to see and respond to fact is astonishing.
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Translation: My unwillingness to drink your kool aid is frustrating to you.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
brady, brees, rivers all have thrown more picks than JC this year. We will be fine at qb
October 4th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
After kc 08…name last time dmac got 20 touch glenny boy……yeah i thought so…..checkmate with ease
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After those lst two games of Dmac’s career he ran 83 times for 289 yards or 3.4 per carry. And 3 fumbles. Maybe you forgot that part.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Looked thru the posts last night. Surprised at all the angst towards ROMAC. Criticizing him would’ve been considered heresy not too long ago.
Also somewhat surprised at all the criticism aimed at DHB after a 4-115yds performance. He had two bad drops but came through with a huge deep ball plus 3rd down conversions. I notice Campbell goes to DHB a good bit on 3rd downs. And he’s usually coming up with the ball to keep drives alive. (He does need to improve as he will …he lets the ball come too much into his chest). But still 115yds? And all this criticism. A little perspective is in order.
ROMAC deserves criticism. This guy is barely making an impact. At least not consistently.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Hahaha
October 4th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Glenny…..javonna walker was finished after 08….09 plan was chaz and dhb….u not tellin the truth
October 4th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
1061.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
brady, brees, rivers all have thrown more picks than JC this year. We will be fine at qb
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yeah but they also won more games when it was all on there shoulders. something J.C. will never do.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Glenny ur full of schit….after 08 name the next time dmac got 20 carries….u still cant do it!…go back to google
October 4th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
FACT:
Campbell threw to an area in the end zone where there were 3 Pats and not a single Raider. That pick changed the momentum of the game. At least one former Raider player, a pro bowler and Super Bowl champion, at that, has said as much. Your inability to see that is astonishing.
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Wrong. FACT:
Campbell threw the ball exactly where DHB was supposed to be, AND when he threw it Chung was on the ground. DHB fckd up the play, and like a true leader Campbell took the heat and moved on. I wouldn’t expect you to be able to understand that, since you have never once demonstrated even the slightest bit of real football knowledge.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
My unwillingness to drink your kool aid is frustrating to you.
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Translation: I hate my life and would kill myself if I my mommy would stop hiding all the real knives.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Glenny…..javonna walker was finished after 08….09 plan was chaz and dhb….u not tellin the truth
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Don’t you remember? He signed for big money in 08 and sucked ASSSSS. He was going to retire but took a huge pay cut to try it one more time. Which really forced us into Chaz and DHB. And that morphed into DHB and Murphy. But that was never the plan.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
dhb had one bad drop, the other would have been a great catch had he held on to. That brings his total of outright drops this year to one. I’ve seen Jerry Rice and Tim Brown drop passes too. He was horrible dropping passes his first two years, but if he continues catch like he has so far this year, then I have no complaint.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
MR shut the fk up u coward…..DHB stopped his route….I was right there watching it as it happened. You would rather take Grad who always turns ball over….redzone ints are rare for JC. U fli flop like a democrat. at first you said Grad was better then admitted JC WAS NOW YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE grad….make up your mind phaggot…..ur such a womanly punk
October 4th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Glenny ur full of schit….after 08 name the next time dmac got 20 carries….u still cant do it!…go back to google
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As I said, you put it on the ground once every 27 times, you are not going to play. If Barry Sanders did that Barry Sanders wouldn’t have played.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Pep only a few can take game on their shoulders. JC should throw 25 maybe 30 passes max. Hue needs to uunderstand that
October 4th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
dhb had one bad drop, the other would have been a great catch had he held on to. That brings his total of outright drops this year to one. I’ve seen Jerry Rice and Tim Brown drop passes too. He was horrible dropping passes his first two years, but if he continues catch like he has so far this year, then I have no complaint.
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DHB had over a 100 yards receiving last game and has made some BIG plays this year. One thing that no one is talking about is wasn’t there ANOTHER big PI for about 30 yards against McCourty? Those numbers don’t show up on his stat sheet.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
oh my god glenny…..a fumblin dmac is 100x better than farglass. He limited the offense out there. He was awful. UFL now lol. So I WIN u lose
October 4th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
DHB = Denarius,Hagan are Better….hes our 5th or 6th best Wr. & we all know it
RoMac = Slow/takes bad angles/Lack of Passion/Glimpses of JRuss/Lack of leadership…but hes only 22 we’ll see
Hue = For not having a “great” Qb or much control with Defense….Doing the best to his ability even exceeding that
Breshanan = Forced to run some of Al’s schemes/players….no clue how to judge him
October 4th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Glenny….those are bogus numbers! That was a farce 100 yd game!….u know what stat dont show ? How u killed play after play wiith lack of awareness
October 4th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
oh my god glenny…..a fumblin dmac is 100x better than farglass.
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Unfortunately, he isn’t. And if he was, three football coaches and a HOF owner would have made it so. Sorry you lose.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Glenny….those are bogus numbers!
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What are bogus numbers?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Koolaid the only reason DHB isn’t leading this team in rec’g is he missed one game and had Revis on him in another. Yet he’s second on the team in rec’g but all anyone can focus on is the negative.
But we’ll let DHB worry about DHB because he is improving with every outting. A onth ago they said hec couldn’t catch over his shoulder and he couldn’t catch outside of the frame of his body and he did both in one game. Yet the drop gets their attention……..HATERS!!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
U dhb ass lickers remind me of the russell ass lickers two years ago. Hue had balls in spring 2010 to tell Al russell sux…now he gotta do it for dhb
October 4th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Show me a back who coughs it up more that once every 27 carries? I would love to see one.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
If DHB is benched who’s the flanker? Chaz?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
His 100 yd game is bogus! Its like Rich Gannon’s MVP….bunch of bullschit!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Show me a fkin rb that sucks as a runner and reciever that starts over better talent
October 4th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
DHB dropped 2 balls, had a play where the ball landed right in his lap. He might be showing improvement….but he shows no sign of why he should be taking snaps of ANY other Wr on this team.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Sterling Moore back on roster?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Koolaid the only reason DHB isn’t leading this team in rec’g is he missed one game and had Revis on him in another. Yet he’s second on the team in rec’g but all anyone can focus on is the negative.
But we’ll let DHB worry about DHB because he is improving with every outting. A onth ago they said hec couldn’t catch over his shoulder and he couldn’t catch outside of the frame of his body and he did both in one game. Yet the drop gets their attention……..HATERS!!
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This is exactly right. And the lst game he had Champ Bailey to contend with.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Chaz? fk him! Hagan the x moore the y ford the z….havent u not been reading this fkin blog the lastmoonth and a half?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
FACT:
Campbell threw to an area in the end zone where there were 3 Pats and not a single Raider. That pick changed the momentum of the game. At least one former Raider player, a pro bowler and Super Bowl champion, at that, has said as much. Your inability to see that is astonishing.
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Wrong. FACT:
Campbell threw the ball exactly where DHB was supposed to be, AND when he threw it Chung was on the ground. DHB fckd up the play, and like a true leader Campbell took the heat and moved on. I wouldn’t expect you to be able to understand that, since you have never once demonstrated even the slightest bit of real football knowledge.
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let me ask you this then, when asked about the endzone INT, Hue only talked about JC, not once did he mention any receivers/TE’s…
trying to talk your way out that one is Sisyphus task. JC was to blame, get over it..
JC is scared when he reaches the endzone, several times he had at least one, sometimes more, free targets in the endzone, and just hit it to a RB or a TE for 8-12 yds
JC dinks and dunks, and blinks in the red-zone, problem here so many have talked JC up, and now they have to live with the fact JC isnt up to to the talk.. as I said get over it!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
His 100 yd game is bogus! Its like Rich Gannon’s MVP….bunch of bullschit!
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But weren’t you on here after the game giving DHB cred? Now you’re back to DHB is trash mode?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
This blogger doesn’t liike DHB so he sells these guys a bunch of crap and they eat it up….DHB never should’ve been drafted that high but IMO the only rec’r clearly better are Moore and Chaz and Ford. Murphy drops way tooo many balls and Hagan is the single most overrated player in the history of this great league. The guy is a afterthought in this league and a HOF’r on this blog. Go figure!!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Playing dhb is negative!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
His 100 yd game is bogus!
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What are you talking about? DHB’s game? He didn’t have 100 yards in garbage time Brien.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
I gave dhb props after denver for that last catch but always maintained hagan moore and ford as to 3. Ii gave dhb nada after this past game
October 4th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Yes, one of the drops would’ve been a damn good catch but I think he should’ve still caught it if he wants to be the best. The other was just a bad drop (granted all WRs drop balls).
Other than that he was money. All this criticism is unwarranted.
This offense is one of the tops in the league and you all are sitting here complaining about offense? Com’on man!
October 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Lol what? Glenny that deep pass from JC wasnt garbage time? shut up
October 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
B. The kid is much better than he was as a rookie by lightyears. I hated DHB in his rookie year until I saw how hard he worked that offseason then I knew he would get better. hard work always pays off…………..period
October 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Chaz? fk him! Hagan the x moore the y ford the z….havent u not been reading this fkin blog the lastmoonth and a half?
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Are you out of your mind? As soon as you flank one of those guys a Cason, jammer, Cromartie, Revis, Sean Smith are just going to grab one of those smurfs and throw him to the ground. Dude, you are really starting to embarrass yourself. Do you know why certain players are flanked and why others are set or in motion?
October 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
BHP you dont have an opinion on this….Haagan is way better as the possession wr
October 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Lol what? Glenny that deep pass from JC wasnt garbage time? shut up
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One catch. And it wasn’t a 100 yarder. And the NE defenders certainly did not give up on that play. Try again.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
BHP you dont have an opinion on this….Haagan is way better as the possession wr
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he has been this year.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Is DHB where he will be next year NO! and he’ll get better and better as long as he works at it. I have to give guys credit when due…..he’s a much better rec’r now.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Offense is good thank you Dmc. No intention to bash DHB…..I know we all want to find a positive out of this game, but don’t look at DHB to find one. A receiver that after 2 years cannot run a route or catch with his hands correctly deserves no praise. For DHB, yes he is improving but that is not such a high standard if you ask me
October 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Smurfs? Hagan is a smurf? Moore is 6 ft 195 lbs…he is a smurf? U make zero fkin sense!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Hagan is an also ran………this blogger is selling you guys a load of crap. if Hagan was soo good he would be starting just like Moore. But he aint!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
58 yarder in garbage time Glenny….big deal….DHB aint gonna make a big WOW play for ya in the clutch….so fk him and his supporters
October 4th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
lol…too true. The only reason DHB isn’t leading the team in yds by a mile is because he was out 1 week and then faced Revis the next.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
What else should he do, NOT improve??? ….LOL
October 4th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Hagan not starting becuz of the guy in the box northwest part of the coliseum
October 4th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Method. .. why argue with these guys? ? Their never going to understand. . Your looking for results. .. touch Downs… catches.. big plays.. first Downs… etc!! These guys are just brain dead!! Still thinking that dhb should be the starter because of his supposed potential. .. its useless to argue!! You would Think dhb has these guys on a payroll the way they get behind him… the Guy stinks!! Wake up already!!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Hagan is an also ran………this blogger is selling you guys a load of crap. if Hagan was soo good he would be starting just like Moore. But he aint
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False
We all know Hagan is no pro-bowl receiver, but this season in reguards to being a possesion receiver the nod goes to Hagan >DHB. We all know that DHB’s draft position has an influence on how many snaps he gets
Hard worker? Yes. Improving? Yes. Worthy of taking snaps away from Ford,Schilens,Hagan? NO
October 4th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Did I miss something? Didn’t DHB catch with his hands on one of his 1st throws from Campbell in almost double coverage where Campbell put too much air under the ball?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Hagan not starting becuz of the guy in the box northwest part of the coliseum
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EXACTLY CONVERSATION OFFICIALLY OVER?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
By the break we’ll see who’s the leading rec’r for the Raiders and that will tell all. My guess is Moore and Ford should be high because they throw a lot of short stuff to Ford but I’ll bet DHB is in the top 3 and maybe even 2nd.As long as he’s healthy.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Al is being stubborn as he did with Russell….dhb sux
October 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Smurfs? Hagan is a smurf? Moore is 6 ft 195 lbs…he is a smurf? U make zero fkin sense!
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lst off, that’s his PR height and weight. 2ndly, I thought we were talking the flanker position.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Yeah blame it on Al Davis that should settle it………….what a joke!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
BHP….dhb should imrove by retiring and ridding us of this bs
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Denarius Moore 12rec 199yds 16.6avg 2tds
Darrius Heyward-Bey 9rec 164yds 18.2avg 0tds
Moore played all 4 games and started since game 2 vs Buffalo.
DHB played 3 games and started each (1 of which he faced by best DB in the league = Revis).
Com’on bros. It may be early but you have to give the guy SOME credit.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
I would have more respect for these fools if they just came out and said the truth!! Al Davis effed up by picking this loser… dhb… but can’t look stupid by putting that Guy where he belongs… on the bench!! They’ll see it eventually. … it must be sad for the other receivers looking at dhb running around out their looking lost when they know they are way better than his sorry asss! PERIOD!!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Al is being stubborn as he did with Russell….dhb sux
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Yes. Brien I basically agree with most of what you say. The only issue I have is, is DHB improving? Is he getting better? Is there someone else you can flank? That a big corner is not going to just come up and throw on his ass? Other than Murphy who is out?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Well i’ll leave u guys because time will tell all. So we’ll seewhat happens..
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Improve*
October 4th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Priesttj….DHB is on the field more than those other guys that you failed to mention By The Way
Moore,Boss,Murphy/or Ford should end up with our most rec yards in that order – Prediction
October 4th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Glenny…hagan is 6′2 like 210….fk u mean he is a smurf? He is our best pposs wr…..10 catches…7 for fkin first downs….7! count em
October 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
got my tix for Sunday in Houston!!!!
Anyone else gonna be there?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Murphy IMO doesn’t belong there I’ll take the others just don’t try to sell me that Hagan crapola.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Fk DHB and fk Maryland
October 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Terp… Moore has 3 touch Downs… rxunning tds dont count?? Lmao!!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Yeah dont sell a guy who gets first downs and can run routes…yeah BHP such great tidbits from u
October 4th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Yes, DHB is on the field more because he is BLOCKING! for the #1 ranked run game in the NFL!!
Most passes on the other hand are short pass underneath and/or targeted to Moore, Ford or whomever is opposite DHB.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
DHB is on the field due to what he does inn practice say whatever you want but that is a fact whether this blogger likes it or not…………….practice gets you playing time if he keeps doing what he’s doing and continues to get betetr he’ll stay there as iit should be.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Fk DHB and fk Maryland
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Com’on dogg…no need to get personal ..hahaha
October 4th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
DHB is a track guy….he aint a football pplayer….get this guy the fk outta here
October 4th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
B I can understand he’s your hero but they all get 1st downs but hey only Hagan’s count right?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Glenny…hagan is 6′2 like 210….fk u mean he is a smurf? He is our best pposs wr…..10 catches…7 for fkin first downs….7! count em
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hagan is a possession receiver. DHB is not a possession receiver. I think you are getting confused. I thought we were talking about DHB. If you want to take Shilen’s off the field for Hagan that makes sense.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Yes, DHB is on the field more because he is BLOCKING! for the #1 ranked run game in the NFL!!
Most passes on the other hand are short pass underneath and/or targeted to Moore, Ford or whomever is opposite DHB.
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Watch that film of DMC’s 70 yard run you will see a guy named Derek Hagan#80 & Chaz Schilens#81 both who have yet to drop a pass this year and are quite the blockers themselves. Anyhow why do we have a Blocker starting at Wide Receiver?? If only he could Catch as good as he blocks
October 4th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
BHP….u homering and its against whats best for the team and its sad
October 4th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
DHB is a track guy….he aint a football pplayer….get this guy the fk outta here
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Actually he’s prob the most versatile WR we have. (Which is really why he’s on the field a lot).
He blocks very well and contributes a lot deal to the #1 ranked run game in the NFL. He can go deep and take the top off the defense. He can run short and get YAC. And he has the speed to be used on reverses.
Its really that simple. He can be leveraged in so many ways that DC can’t que on one thing with him on the field.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Its really that simple when you think about it.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Never said Hagan was a star….he just best bet as poss wr….plain and simple….dhb is uur hero….improving in small dosees is not encouraging….He sux
October 4th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
DHB starting is as simple as 23.5m guaranteed & Al Davis has yet to get his $$worth
October 4th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Glenny…i dont want fhb on the field ever! hagan x moore y ford z…..what about that dont u get?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Tjbwall Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
DHB starting is as simple as 23.5m guaranteed & Al Davis has yet to get his $$worth
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maybe that too ..haha
October 4th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Versatile! Twerp leave now. DHB CAN RUN EVERY ROUTE IN THE TREE? HELL NO! HE OUTLEAPS DEFENDERS? NOPE! DOES HE DOMINATE GAMES EVER! NO NO NO NO NO!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Anyway. Chuck B needs to get a handle on that defense. All that talent and they can’t stop nobody (save the Bungholes so far …well, and the Jets sort of). Well maybe they can stop someone. They just aren’t consistent doing it.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
DHB never does a crossing route…ever seen him do a post route? post corner? Any option routes reading the zone? Twerp ur a lying ass mthfker too!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
The defense is its own worst enemy. They stop teams but committ penalties to keep drives going. Chuck B needs to get a handle on that defense or go find another job.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
One thing many on here stated, which was correct, was WR’s needing until year 3 to emerge. We seen the list of guys often used: Roddy White, Cliff Branch, Dwayne Bowe, etc.
The one thing I always countered with that, was that while this is often true, many times that third year, was either their best year ever (Cliff Branch) or damn near close. Year 3 was about the ceiling for these guys.
So if you want to excuse DHB’s lack of production so far, due to this year 3 thing, than fine. But you also have to accept the other side of that stat, that whatever DHB puts up this year, is pretty much the ceiling.
So far, he is on pace for 36 catches, 650 yards and 0TD’s.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
And not pressing Welker was asinine ….20 lashes for that!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
B call it what you will I just see thing sdifferent than You do man I LIKE Hagan but he is NOT ALL THAT. I wish he were I’d be all over him but he’s a good player nowhere near great. Moore has superstar and Ford Has superstar written all over them Hagan is just a guy.
if you talk to me about Moore, ford and even Chaz I’d immediately AGREE but your talking about a damn journeyman.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Watch that int again. You can see DHB make a slight move like he was going to cut it back to the goal posts but he just stays where he was at. I think it was a miscommunication and JC took the blame.
Anyways, enough about last week.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Defense will be up n down all year….u have no LBs not NT that starts and no elite edge rusher…go figure
October 4th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
When Soup threw the ball (that Ninja website had the stills perfectly) both Pats defenders were in play looking at Soup, breaking on the ball.
DHB was out of bounds, literally with his back completely turned to the QB, and ultimately running the wrong way.
Not sure what the hell Soup saw to throw the ball, but even more unsure what the hell DHB was doing.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Chuck B basically let 1 guy kill him all damn game. Not forces a press on that guy (that lil’ shrimp) was just straight stupid. You can’t let the guy run wild!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Ford aint a superstar….Moore I can see but Ford no way. Hagan size,hands and route running ability…thats what the fk u need out ur poss wr….hell are u missing here?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
DHB never does a crossing route…ever seen him do a post route? post corner? Any option routes reading the zone? Twerp ur a lying ass mthfker too!
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He does run option routes.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Ford has like 13 catches in his last 7 games with 3 lost fumbles and a few drop passes.
Love his explosion as an “in-space” weapon, like we saw on the reverse last week.
But he hasn’t done much as a WR over about half a season now, and hasn’t really shown the best hands.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
VR…i can tell ya easily….he thought DHB WAS AN NFL wr…..thats where JC messedd up at. Im disappointed in him cuz he should know DHB sux at awareness
October 4th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
If I were Chuck I would’ve activated S.Moore just to come in the game and throw an old school George Atkinson close line on Welker. Moore may get ejected but who cares …message sent and you wasn’t going to use him anyways. lol.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
On pace is on pace but games played are games played. Don’t give me what he’s done but what can he do……….period
All I hear about is what cannot do from all you guys and yet HE KEEPS DOING THEM. So if that trend continues LOOK OUT!!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Glenny…i dont want fhb on the field ever! hagan x moore y ford z…..what about that dont u get?
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You are putting your faith in 3 receivers that opponents have never game planned against. I know the players they have game planned against, and we have the #8 offense in the league with a bullet. That’s what I don’t get.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Hahahahah glenny you shoud do stand up
October 4th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Well not activate ..sign S.Moore just to do that. Knock him the fug out!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
BHP…dhbz has shown no awareness still or route running so what is this bs he kees showing you cuz it aint true….im at the games
October 4th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
B watch the film man DHB was PUSHED out of BOUNDS he could not throw to him. JC knew it and tried in midstride to change and it ended in a pick he had a split second to look and thought he was throwing to one of our guys. DHB was interferred with and they didn’t call just LIKE THE FORD play both were PI’s that were not called.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
What’s fruitless? = arguing about a WR that had a 115yds game and wondering why he didn’t have 200yds …lol
October 4th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Ever seen DHB read the defense and go and find the soft part of D in middle of field? Hell no! U wont and cant cuz it aint possible
October 4th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Just Fire, just checked out that link. Great job whoever that is. I was right. Chung fell down, JC saw it and thought DHB would continue over the middle but Bey stops and goes the other way. Cue Benny Hill theme song.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Crazy when you think about it, really.
WR gets 115yds and you all are here crying because he didn’t get 200yds ….shheeez!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
B I been at them as well until this year. He is worlds better than he was. To deny that takes away credibility. NO! he’s not the WR we have that’s OBVIOUS but neither is HAGAN.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
he’s not the BEST WR we have**
October 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Wrong BHP I WAS SITTING IN SEC 130 AS PLAY WENT DOWN….DHB GOT PUNKED BY A SMALLER MAN AND THEN WOULDNT COMPLETE MOVE TO GET OPEN CUZ HE SUX!
October 4th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Hagan is ur best best as a poss wr….lus JC throws t him with confidence….u aint there i am and its plain as day
October 4th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
And Hagan catches with his body every single time …crickets
October 4th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
B he does it every game he is running the routes CALLED for he can’t just run anywhere he wants the play is called he runs it.DHB has been wide open this year more than anytime I can ever remember. He’s not a great rec’r but he’s definitely not as bad as YOU SAY HE IS.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?user=NiceNinjaX&v=J7pvSWL7zZk&view=videos
October 4th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Possession WR= size, hands, abbility to read defense and run precise routes, move the chains….BHP see how bad Im embarrassing you DHB lovers?
October 4th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Crazy when you think about it, really.
WR gets 115yds and you all are here crying because he didn’t get 200yds ….shheeez!
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And a couple of big 3rd down conversions and another 30 yard PI. But somehow………
October 4th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
B whatever man i don’t care to argue SUCKS! because you say that about anybody you don’t like.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Twerp ur a damn liar….everytime? Ur a fkin liar
October 4th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Sorry but DHB 58 YARDER meant what? Nada for the team only foor u ass lickin fools
October 4th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
I’m really impressed by DHB, but it’ll require him to do much much more before I start forgetting about his 2010 highlights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D04Wbjs0hmw&feature=player_detailpage#t=64s
October 4th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
DHB is a loser as are all his supporters on this blog
October 4th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Most of the players on defense fall into the category of “buy ‘em for what they’re worth, sell ‘em for what they think they’re worth”.
McClain ” I tackled pretty good”…. at the top of the list. He seems to think his job is to tie up a blocker until the whistle blows. Until he learns to come off a block and find the ball he’s a bust in my book.
His tackle stats are deceiving in that a good number of them happen 5-7 yards down field. Not much success in that formula.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Im more impressed with DHB when he doesnt see the field…BHP this is the same schit you and I had with Russell……boy did I landslide ya on that
October 4th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
MoSSwag94 Jarvis Moss
Just got a #humbling phone call from Mr Davis himself! So much respect for what he represents to the game of football
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Al wants a win in Houston. Me too!!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
McClain and DHB are jcats! Being top picks and not doing a fkin thing to justify it
October 4th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Anyhow….weed is on deck….see ya
October 4th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
DHB is a loser as are all his supporters on this blog
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Right now DHB has higher yardage totals than Santonio Holmes, Todd Heap, Hines Ward, Ocho Cinco…..
October 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
stablersbeard Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Most of the players on defense fall into the category of “buy ‘em for what they’re worth, sell ‘em for what they think they’re worth”.
McClain ” I tackled pretty good”…. at the top of the list. He seems to think his job is to tie up a blocker until the whistle blows. Until he learns to come off a block and find the ball he’s a bust in my book.
His tackle stats are deceiving in that a good number of them happen 5-7 yards down field. Not much success in that formula.
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100% correct.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Dont tell him that Seymour Bush. That’ll only make him matter. The truth hurts.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Don’t give me what he’s done but what can he do……….period
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Come on Priest, really?
“What can he do”??? This isn’t little Johnny’s soccer team, this is the NFL.
Everything is about what have you done for me lately!!
DHB is improving, but if he were a chick, he would be the 240 pound heffer that “slimmed” down to 175 now. Maybe you would tag and release after a scotch or 6, but you still need booze to talk yourself into it.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
1187,Stablersbeard,HaHa,like the handle!Im goin say that Im pullin for DHB and McClain,give them both some time before throwing haymakers at them.Saw Snake at the Black Angus a few times back in the 70s,ALWAYS had the pretty ladies on his arm,both with beard and without,Ha lol
October 4th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Hendu… Black Angus in SLZ? I saw him and Tooz there a few times…. Good times!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
YUP,San Lorenzo,he was always with a race car driver,never met Tooz,wish I had,Raiders!!!!!
October 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
It’s not that DHB is a bad receiver or can’t be a very good receiver but should he be our number one receiver. I think he is our number four this season. Cork thinks he is our number six.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
You all are wasting your energy critiquing the offense. #8 offense in the NFL…this is a 3-1 offense right now….that makes you pretty good.
It is that raggedy defense that needs to man up….and before you all burn up McClain, and he has played a shoddy brand of ball….you gotta get on these vets that are not doing jack
Richard Seymour – MIA…no push, few tackles, nothing
Tom Kelly – Same as above…not taking that double team, not getting to the GOOD QBs..disappearing
Kameron Wimbley – Right now he is a non-factor…nothing…he has one move to the QB…that’s it…
Guys, these three in particular should be among the elite in their positions…and they are doing nothing.
Raider fan puts up with a lot. The worst thing that Raider fan puts up with is cheering on supposed elite players and watch them perform like an “any man”
An elite player is DMAC….what these three are..they are just guys…you swap them out and you can’t tell if they were ever in the game.
Those guys don’t play to their pay…your defense will remain at 28 to 30 and this team will miss the playoffs cause you can’t depend on any offense to have to average 30+ per game.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
1201,Bingo,starts and ends with the lines!Im thinking AL should hire a DC and get the frig out of the way!I get it,a pipe dream,never goin happen,etc
October 4th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
SnB I would disagree with your defensive assessment. You guys hold the interior defensive linemen responsible for everything, but what this defense is designed to do is have them tie up blockers and let others roam free to make plays. And for the most part that has worked fairly well. Right now the Raiders are in the top half of sacking Q’s after being at the top of the league last year. So the Dline has played well.
I think most of us thought this would be our Achilles but The Raiders pass defense has been surprisingly good. And that is with a couple of rookies seeing a lot of playing time. So what is going on here? Well, predictably the run defense is terrible. I have sat here and beat McClain to death so I will refrain from doing it again just out of tedium, but look at Ridgley’s 30+ yard TD scamper from Sunday and you will see all you need to see.
Which basically gets us to the bottom line: which team leads the league in giving up runs of 20+ yards? Yep, you guessed it! Your Oaktown Raiders. Who is 2nd? The Carolina Panthers, last years worst team in the league. And just as a frame of reference, The Dallas Cowboys coached by Rob Ryan have given up none. So why are we giving up these long runs? Poor tackling number one. Not having 11 hats on the ball number two. Very poor linebacking play number three. I’ll stop there.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Boy, you guys let Brien Troll talk to you like you’re trash.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
The Problem with the Defense is that, it’s 40 years old, and opposing NFL Coaches, know it better than the back of their hands, and exactly how to counter it.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Boy, you guys let Brien Troll talk to you like you’re trash.
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Why don’t you do something about it nKrappy?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
B there’s one big difference between Russell and DHB …………work ethic!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
The Problem with the Defense is that, it’s 40 years old, and opposing NFL Coaches, know it better than the back of their hands, and exactly how to counter it.
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Krappy could you post this exact same post 5 more times to day, you have only managed to do it 7 so far.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Goodbye Krappy.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
SnB I would disagree with your defensive assessment. You guys hold the interior defensive linemen responsible for everything, but what this defense is designed to do is have them tie up blockers and let others roam free to make plays. And for the most part that has worked fairly well. Right now the Raiders are in the top half of sacking Q’s after being at the top of the league last year. So the Dline has played well.
I think most of us thought this would be our Achilles but The Raiders pass defense has been surprisingly good. And that is with a couple of rookies seeing a lot of playing time. So what is going on here? Well, predictably the run defense is terrible. I have sat here and beat McClain to death so I will refrain from doing it again just out of tedium, but look at Ridgley’s 30+ yard TD scamper from Sunday and you will see all you need to see.
Which basically gets us to the bottom line: which team leads the league in giving up runs of 20+ yards? Yep, you guessed it! Your Oaktown Raiders. Who is 2nd? The Carolina Panthers, last years worst team in the league. And just as a frame o have given up none. So why are we giving up these long runs? Poor tackling number one. Not having 11 hats on the ball number two. Very poor linebacking play number three. I’ll stop there.
f reference, The Dallas Cowboys coached by Rob Ryan have given up none. So why are we giving up these long runs? Poor tackling number one. Not having 11 hats on the ball number two. Very poor linebacking play number three. I’ll stop there.
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Seymour Bush another excellent post sir!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Drexl Dude is just senile he’ll lose count……..LOL
He has no idea probably 40% of the league is running this defense and even the Pat’s are running it now.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
That may be true about 40 percent of other teams are running this defense but if our LB’s are weak, shouldn’t we adjust ?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Boy, you guys let Brien Troll talk to you like you’re trash.
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haha. I don’t mind Brien at all. Good guy, good fan. Doesn’t take sh**. Nothing wrong with that.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
This is what I hope. Maybe our defense is not as bad as it seems. We have played the Bills, Jets and Pats and those teams can make any defense look bad.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
will any of you guys be at the game in Houston?
October 4th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Otis60 Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
This is what I hope. Maybe our defense is not as bad as it seems. We have played the Bills, Jets and Pats and those teams can make any defense look bad.
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Otis there is an expression in the league and that is you are what your record says you are. Our record says we are a bad defense. Kind of hard to argue that. Is it correctable? Certainly. The better question is why can’t anyone seem to correct it? I think the quick answer to that is we clearly do not spend enough time on tackling in training camp.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
We just need to play better that’s only adjustment we need IMO PLAY BETTER. If you look at our positioning we are in position to make plays and we just don’t make them…………..period
It’s not coaching IMO it’s guys being committed to be great.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Otis, one can only hope. That’s why I can’t stand hearing Al Davis and defense in the same sentence. Al Davis is against the blitz (God only knows what that reason would be). The old man is a lost era. I’m tired of seeing a bunch of sissies that don’t attack the opposing QB. I’d love to see 8 years of frustration taken out on Schaub this Sunday! Beat the Texans! They are not a good football team WITHOUT Andre Johnson!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Otis there is an expression in the league and that is you are what your record says you are. Our record says we are a bad defense. Kind of hard to argue that. Is it correctable? Certainly. The better question is why can’t anyone seem to correct it? I think the quick answer to that is we clearly do not spend enough time on tackling in training camp.
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This is probably close to as accurate as anything. RoMac’s conditioning is not good. Was too busy spending money with his family I guess. But the offseason program he was on did him no favors.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
I think it is more than RoMac. Chris Johnson not playing up to par and starting a rookie after Johnson was injured doesn’t help. Nnamdi not being signed cost us the Bills game and an outside chance the Patriots game. I know I am beating a dead horse.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
To me you watch the good teams, NE last Sunday, Green Bay, Shi*sburgh, and those teams form tackle so well. The linemen do, the linebackers do, the secondary does. Us? We are reaching and grabbing, and trying to push opponents onto the boundary. It’s ridiculous really. Hence #1202.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Priest there has always been a question about our conditioning. Clearly an ongoing problem. Good point.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
S Bush you are right about your comment but still, the Pats, Jets and Bills are making everyone look bad. I believe our run D is bad so I am not making excuses for them even though it sounds like it. The next three games after the Texans will show us how bad our D will be for the season.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
As long as DMAC is healthy we don’t need a stellar D, though it would be nice, we just need a below average one or better yet, an average one.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
somebody mentioned dmac’s form on the tackle he made on wilfork. theyre right. he dipped his shoulders low and aimed at his midsection while wrapping his arms around his waist while running thru him. thats how u tackle. now if only our damn defense can watch that on film and get it right. i remember when dmc had 3 tackles against the chargers a few years ago. he played some safety in high school and i can see why.mcclain please take notes.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
We have had this tackling problem every year. Priest mentioned conditioning but this year’s practice was more intense according to Cork. Maybe it wasn’t enough with the shortened off season.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Ro McClain need to play like someone slapped his mama. He is too laid back for me. I would like to see him stuff someone every once in a while.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
“Monte Poole: Oakland Raiders coach Hue Jackson wants to build a bully, but his defense isn’t cooperating.”
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_19041735
Normally I don’t agree with Monte Poole, but he’s right on the money with this one…
October 4th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Branch is a decent tackler but on runs he often takes bad angles which gives the runner a 2way go. he has to hit the hole aggressively like the runner does and give him a 1way go. If you watch Huff do it he does it better and so does MM34 but in Branch’s defense he is sometimes coming from 15 yards out. It’s just a matter of proper technigue and attention to detail. You are going to give up yards just don’t let the runner hang you out to dry.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Branch will run right pass the runner when he’s over aggressive as well, so he just needs to play back more and put MM34 in the box and Huff.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
We need some football players on defense with bad attitudes. I watch Pittsburgh and Baltimore defense and they always play like they are mad about something. We got too many nice guys on defense.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Maybe Cork is asleep at the wheel, he needs to create a new thread, 1230 comment-thread is ridiculous.
Just read the Poole article, sure enough he tags, or seems to, the problem at RoMac, Kimbley, and Routte:
“McClain must be first in line,” “Wimbley has one sack,” and “Stanford Routt was given a three-year.”
So RoMac isn’t Patrick Willis, not many Patrick Willis out there. Kimbley is not producing sacks, OK, and Routte is not a shut down corner. All of it true. However, why there is no mention of Seymour, I know I am bagging on Big Rich, but seems that to most of the focus of criticism is directed at an inexperienced and young RoMac. Fairly or unfairly.
So, why is Big Money Rich getting bailed out by the bloggers and the media? Has he played up to his value and expectations? Not in my opinion. Has he put the defense on his back? Isn’t he also responsible for a bad run defense, and a poor pass rush against Buffalo and NE? He clearly checked out in the last game, what 3 tackles and two personal foul penalties? He almost had as many penalties as tackles, let alone sacks.
He’s the highest paid player, an established veteran, the only player in the defense with a pro bowl resume, has he played to that level? No. Why is he skating?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
IMO because he’s not playing bad i don’t expect my DT’s make many plays and he makes his share I want them to push the pocket for the DE’s and take up tacklers. NE’s run D is worse than ours and they have a probowler as well a big fat guy that everyone craves.
DT’s tie up blockers so everyone else can make plays. And he gets doubled 70% of the downs he plays.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Take up blockers sorry!
October 4th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
I know they are playing but Mitchell and Huff are banged up. If they can come back at full strength I think our D will be much improved. Chekwa is a rookie so he should only get better as the season progresses. Like I said before, we will know more about our D the three games after the Texans game.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
How about trading Michael Bush for a decent middle linebacker?
October 4th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
I would prefer we keep Bush though Cork thinks he won’t be resigned since he wants to be a starting back. DMAC is great but he gets injured. I would only trade Bush if the Raiders feel they won’t be able to resign him next year. If we trade him it better be a very good LB because we might need him this season if DMAC gets hurt.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I don’t bail out Seymour.
It seems he’s just a figurehead anymore; a “symbol” of the past for what Hue wants the defense to be.
This isn’t the “patriot” Seymour.
We got two decent yrs. out of him.
He’s old and tired. I think he wants to do well he just can’t physically hang anymore.
He’s average now. Watch the games. He’s not even getting double teamed anymore.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
I see an issue of the Raiders not “really” doing what is necessary to win. I don’t know if Al is thinking he’s gonna live forever but if he wants another SB before he either HAS to retire due to health and age..or worse…then he needs to get over the idea that by simply putting on a Raider uniform it will suddenly and mystically transform you into a great player.
How can anyone possibly make the argument that we are better served having DHB in the lineup over Moore? And why do you continue to start McClain at MLB? Any body would be better than McClain at that spot.
Do you really want to win? Really? Then get real and quit dikking around.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Al is smart but like a lot of smart people, he thinks he knows better than everyone else. Being 82 years old tends to make someone more stubborn, not less so we get a double whammy with Al.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
I agree with you Otis, but sometimes you gotta give something valuable up to get something valuable in return.
Remember we have Taiwan Jones and Marcel Reece (receiving back, i know but still..).
October 4th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Why is Al’s Defense at the bottom of the NFL, year after year?
Can anyone answer that without the personal insults?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
I have a Jehovah Witness friend, who’s not supposed to be my friend cuz i’m what is referred to in jw land as “worldly”, but anyways, he says McClain is a JW; which would explain why he doesn’t huddle up on the sideline when they’re getting pumped up and all that.
I googled it, but nothing online connects McClain with jw’ism.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
I have a Jehovah friend too, those people are weird, imo. He might be hard to connect with.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
1241.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Why is Al’s Defense at the bottom of the NFL, year after year?
Can anyone answer that without the personal insults?
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I don’t think we can ignore the obvious answer to your question anymore.
It can’t just be weird coincidence.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Week One: Ghostraiders – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan44 – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
Week Four: Sullivan44
DMAC 31-28 Raiders
Method To My Madness Raiders 35 Texans 17
Oakland Raiders [BREAKING NEWS] blog on the high seas Oakland 38 Houston 17
qodrn Raiders 38 Texans 35
RaiderRockstar Oakland thugs 20 Houston Boots 17
Steve Corkran: High-scoring game, with the Texans winning unless Darren McFadden is healthy and churning up a ton of yardage.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Hi Kool, I think the Raiders D is at the bottom year after year because we can’t stop the run. Why ? I am not an insider but Cork and others blame Al’s meddling. Belichick’s interview about Al being a D-Cor just reinforces what others have mentioned. The players are also to blame. If it was a one or two year thing I would blame them more but it has been going on for several years so I think there is more to it than just the players.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
1243.KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
I have a Jehovah friend too, those people are weird, imo. He might be hard to connect with.
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As u know then, they are only supposed to be friends with fellow jw’s. Our jw friends actually risk getting in trouble with the church for being friends with us. It might be interesting to note if McClain is respectful during the national anthem cuz they aren’t supposed to honor the flag either.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
KK, No insults. It’s called lack of discipline, which results in poor tackling. The lack of discipline also leads to bad penalties, resulting in easy TDs for the opponent (see Mr. Seymour 2 days ago). We also have not had a very good linebacker (Romanowski was at the end of his career) in over 20 years, so Mr. Davis has a relatively poor eye for talent at that position. In my opinion, the reluctance to blitz is another reason why you have “soft” players on defense. On the bright side, this defense should improve. There is no reason why they shouldn’t pressure Schaub without his top wide receiver, Andre Johnson. We are catching a huge break, and a playoff caliber team can beat Houston. Let’s pray the Raiders have that team.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Raiders 34 Texans 30
October 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Thank-you!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Good post Beach.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I am from SoCal Kell but I am an OG Raiders fan. The first Raiders game I watched was in 1973.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I’m going to be honest with all of you that think 5-3 is a likely spot for our boys after 8 games. We have not been a dominant home team in ages. It’s foolish to think the Raiders can be at 2-3 (with back to back losses), and then have a walk in the park with Cleveland, KC, and Denver coming to town. It doesn’t work that way. This team HAS to beat Houston this Sunday. Period. You can only look at it one game at a time.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
On the bright side, this defense should improve. There is no reason why they shouldn’t pressure Schaub without his top wide receiver, Andre Johnson. We are catching a huge break, and a playoff caliber team can beat Houston. Let’s pray the Raiders have that team.
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#1. Why should this defense improve, when it hasn’t over the last 10 years?
October 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Anyone hear priest on 95.7 a couple of hours ago?
“I think this team is as good as the 2002 team”. Even Townsend was trying to hold back laughter.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
John McClain from Houston Chronicle:
The Texans probably will play three games without receiver Andre Johnson while he recovers from his hamstring injury.
On paper at least, Oakland would seem the ideal team to play while Johnson serves as a cheerleader.
The Texans are 3-1 against the Raiders when Johnson plays and 2-0 when he doesn’t, including a 31-24 victory at Oakland last season.
The formula the Texans used to defeat the Raiders last season should disclose what kind of game plan they’ll have without their best player Sunday at Reliant Stadium.
Arian Foster didn’t start last year’s game for disciplinary reasons. Derrick Ward replaced him and carried 11 times for 78 yards and a 33-yard touchdown run.
Foster came off the bench for 17 carries and 133 yards, including a 74-yard touchdown run.
Steve Slaton contributed 37 yards on five carries.
The Texans finished with 249 yards rushing and a 6.9-yard average per carry.
Matt Schaub threw for 192 yards, and the Texans didn’t commit a turnover.
The Raiders, who lead the NFL in rushing, were a good team then, and they’re a better team now.
Ravens a different story
Considering how effective the Texans were running against Pittsburgh (180 yards) and how productive Foster was (30 carries, 155 yards), it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how they’re going to approach the Oakland game.
A powerful running game that helps control the clock combined with no turnovers is almost a sure recipe for victory, especially if Wade Phillips’ defense continues to play with the ferociousness it showed in the 17-10 conquest of Pittsburgh.
The Texans can beat the Raiders without Johnson.
In 2007, Johnson didn’t play because of a knee injury, but the Texans won 24-17.
You could make a case that the Raiders have done a better job against Johnson than any team in the league, primarily because of their former cornerback, Nnamdi Asomugha, who often covered him.
Quarterback Matt Schaub usually went in a different direction. It was almost as if Johnson was an expensive decoy.
In 2004, Johnson had six catches for 115 yards and a TD. But in three subsequent games against the Raiders, he had one catch for 9 yards, two for 19 and two for 66.
The Texans should beat the Raiders to go 4-1, but getting out of Baltimore with a victory Oct. 16 is going to be too difficult.
The Ravens have been very rude to the Texans and Johnson, compiling a 3-0 record, including last year’s 34-28 overtime victory at Reliant Stadium.
Johnson had nine catches for 140 yards and two TDs in a loss that ended with Schaub’s throwing an interception that was returned for a touchdown.
Finnegan’s lucky day
If Johnson is forced to miss a third consecutive game, it could hurt the most, because he’s been at his best against the Titans.
Not counting 2005, when he was injured so early in the game he wasn’t thrown a pass, Johnson has played 14 games against the Titans. Tennessee has a 9-5 edge, but the Texans are 3-2 over the last five.
In those 14 games, Johnson has 85 catches for 1,123 yards and nine TDs.
If Johnson remains a spectator during the Tennessee game, you know there’s one player who won’t be too sorry about it – Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Otis, We’re about in the same boat as far as following the team. I was born in Oakland and have been following the Raiders since 1972. I live and die with the team during the season.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Otis60, from one old fan to another!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
I agree that you have to look at one game at a time. If we lose to Houston it will be a very tough road ahead but our season will not be over. If we lose to Houston and lose one to Clev, KC or Denver, then we are in big trouble.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
If we are as good as Hue says we are we should be EXPECTED to beat Houston. We shouldn’t have to hope and pray.
If this is a playoff team then you SHOULD beat Houston. Period. As “tough” a team as they are.
I’m sick of hearing how we can’t be expected to beat a team like that on the road, but we’re also a playoff team.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Thanks cool. I got flack from a lot of co-workers when the Raiders moved back to Oakland. I just told them I was a fan when they were originally in Oakland and they were just going back home.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Sorry, Kool
October 4th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
I feel we have a great chance to beat Houston, especially with their number one receiver out but no team can be expected to beat another NFL team.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
1253.beach Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I’m going to be honest with all of you that think 5-3 is a likely spot for our boys after 8 games. We have not been a dominant home team in ages. It’s foolish to think the Raiders can be at 2-3 (with back to back losses), and then have a walk in the park with Cleveland, KC, and Denver coming to town. It doesn’t work that way. This team HAS to beat Houston this Sunday. Period. You can only look at it one game at a time.
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People seem to be of the thought that we can’t possibly beat Houston on the road and that we’re still 5-3 and that’s ok. After all, you can’t expect Oakland to beat a team like the Texans. We’re a playoff team, oh yeah. No doubt about it. Afc West champs, but Houston? On the road?
No. If you’re a playoff team you win this game. Period!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
October 4th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
I have a Jehovah Witness friend, who’s not supposed to be my friend cuz i’m what is referred to in jw land as “worldly”, but anyways, he says McClain is a JW; which would explain why he doesn’t huddle up on the sideline when they’re getting pumped up and all that.
I googled it, but nothing online connects McClain with jw’ism.
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No disrespect but this makes absolutely no sense.
He can play on the team, travel with the team, practice with the team, go into defensive huddles with the team, but he can’t huddle with them on the sideline.
I don’t care what religion he is, I just want him to knock whoever comes across the middle into next week.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Even in the 60’s & 70’s, I worried about the smallest detail, all week. I’m not one to take any game for granted. Rah, Rah stuff is completely useless to me. The only thing that matters is execution on the field, not pom=pom shaking on a blog.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Beach, you were able to witness the 1972 playoff crime in Pittsburgh ? I had a supervisor from the Pitt area who was at the game and left for the parking lot when the evil reception happened and missed seeing it.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Qodrn,
There is something to consider: we faced Houston last season at 1-2, after blowing a sure victory in Arizona (Janikowski’s blown 32 yarder). The team had no fight in them the next week in that home loss. We were embarrassed. The 7 point difference doesn’t show how bad the defense was run over. Light a fire under Seymour and the defense! I want Schaub to eat dirt!
October 4th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Maybe I am drinking the Hue Jackson Kool aid but I don’t think Hue will let that happen.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Arm Chair,
I’m just passing what my jw friend told me. No, it doesn’t make any sense, but it is curious that he is seen standing off to the side…alone…while the rest of the team is doing the huddle thing on the sideline.
Whether it’s a “jw thing” or whatever, i don’t care either, but i’d like to see our MLB; our LEADER on defense, doing some…well…leading.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
The NFL Draft is hit and miss, maybe our MLB is just average. If he is the film fanatic that I have read about, I think he will eventually improve. My hope is he is like Huff. Huff looked like a bust but became a good player.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Otis, Funny you bring that up. I was 10 years old at the time and watched the game on TV. I cried when that game was over. The Franco Harris catch made no sense to me. It was a freak of nature. Anyway, I only had to suffer a few playoff heartbreaks before Ken Stabler and company brought home the Super Bowl trophy. Then came Jim Plunkett. Those were great times to be a Raider fan. 1980 was my favorite season, since we came back from 2-3 to win as the wild card team. That was a magical season.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Before Pastorini broke his leg, I had a dream Plunkett would take over and lead the Raiders to victory. No, I don’t have special powers. I just had a good dream
October 4th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
If Rolando Bosworth can’t get his act together quickly and become a real “Mike” MLB then kick him to the curb and let him go out knocking on doors with his fellow whatever they are called. When/if he gets to my door I’ll just tell him that “I gave at the office” and “oh by the way, he’s right up there with JaLoser”. If nothing else, we seem to have perfected the ability to pick 1st round BUSTS. It very well may be that he might be fine in a 3-4 but in a 4-3 he’s out of his league – at least so far. If I didn’t know better, I’d think he was hitting the purple drank. He seems out of condition, he runs out of gas, h
October 4th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
There is no way I would compare McClain to Russell. Russell pi$#ed on his silver platter, McClain is just struggling. Hopefully he will pull a Huff and get better.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
#1. Why should this defense improve, when it hasn’t over the last 10 years?
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KK, you gotta believe. I am convinced Hue Jackson is our only Head Coach since Jon Gruden. My biggest concern for our defense vs. Kubiak (HC for Houston), is how he usually abuses our defense with gadget plays and misdirection plays early in the game. They can’t beat us straight up. They always seem to get in our D’s heads, and then run all over us. We have to be ready for these guys. We need Huff and Shaughnessy on the field Sunday to help wreak havoc in the backfield of the Texans.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
The good thing about gadget plays is Hue likes to use them so our D seems to be prepared when teams this year have tried to use them.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
If Rolando Bosworth can’t get his act together quickly and become a real “Mike” MLB then kick him to the curb and let him go out knocking on doors with his fellow whatever they are called. When/if he gets to my door I’ll just tell him that “I gave at the office” and “oh by the way, he’s right up there with JaLoser”. If nothing else, we seem to have perfected the ability to pick 1st round BUSTS. It very well may be that he might be fine in a 3-4 but in a 4-3 he’s out of his league – at least so far. If I didn’t know better, I’d think he was hitting the purple drank. He seems out of condition, he runs out of gas, he tackles poorly, takes bad angles, can’t extricate himself from blocks, all things a LB let alone MLB should not have. I’m not sure he will ever be a good or great MLB. That position requires a level of crazy & intensity and I’m not sure his religion allows that. I’m thinking we use our 1st round pick next year on the best 4-3 “Mike” MLB out there. The name of Vontaze Burfict has been mentioned as a possibility. He looks good on some of his YouTube highlights. kind of the crazed dog we’re looking for.
Check him out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcsffTQojI
October 4th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
People are conditioned to be let down by the Raiders.
I on the other hand, have a great feeling about this Sunday.
1. Houston is coming off a hard win where they got physically pounded in a low scoring game.
2. Their best player is out which hurts morale and limits the gameplan.
3. Might get caught looking past the Raiders like the Jets did.
4. Raiders are coming off a game where they clearly wanted to show the improvement of this team and failed. They have another chance this week against a playoff favorite.
5. Raiders put up 500 yards of offense against Patriots defense. They will move the ball.
6. They play Houston every year and they are due a freakin win.
7. Most important… I WILL BE THERE TO SEE THEM KICK SOME TEXANS AZZ!!!!!!
All my reasons for a Raiders victory.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Good point, Otis. Hey getting back to 1980, I remember when we beat the Chargers at home and then went into Pittsburgh and won the Monday night game to go to 4-3, I believed we would win the Super Bowl that season. Some people laughed at me before the playoffs started and I said the Raiders would win the Super Bowl, but I enjoyed the last laugh when we destroyed Philly in the Super Bowl!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
When Plunk had time to throw he was as good if not better than anybody. Man, I wish JC had his bomb throwing ability. I won a nice bet on that Pittsburgh game
October 4th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
JB, I watched the Youtube highlights. Loved his speed adn attitude. I am also partial to the PAC.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Wasbanned, I am with you on all but 1 point. The Jets lost their starting center. They didn’t look past us, and neither will the Texans. One thing to consider is how the Texans offense went to sleep after Johnson left the game. I don’t care what the point spread is. These teams are on equal ground and the Raiders need to want it more than Houston. Period.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
speed and attitude
October 4th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Any team watching the Raiders on film would be foolish to look past them. Our defense might be suspect but not our O.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
I had a good feeling of victory before the Denver game, a little concerned with our missing receivers and the short week before the Buffalo game, a good feeling of victory before the Jets game, and an “I don’t know what to expect” feeling before the New England game. I guess I’d say I figured we’d be 2-2 after 4 games, but it would have been nice to be 3-1. We probably have the toughest first 5 games of any team in the league. This team has to be mentally prepared to go 60 minutes with these guys on Sunday.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Nice chatting with you guys tonight! Good night.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
There’s a lot of pom pom shaking in here, Kell.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
I have a great feeling about our O unless DMAC’s injury gets worse. All I ask of our D is hold the Texans to 24 points or less, I don’t think they will but I hope I am wrong.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Sully, sometimes that is all we have.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Sully, I saw Moneyball on your recommend. Good movie and I agree with your Al and Ron comparisons.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Well, well, well. So Al Davis runs the defense. What’s new? Maybe after the recent evidence, including the candid comments by Belichick, maybe the homers will finally stop fighting this. Mr. Davis, please get your fingers out of the soup! Hire a smart coach (like Hue) on the defensive side and stay TF out!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Look at it from the perspective of Belichick’s defensive game plan. He stacks the box, taking McFadden out of the game and putting it into Campbell’s hands. This is a gamble by Belichick, because New England’s pass defense is even worse than their run defense. In fact, it’s the worst in football. But Belichick knew that if McFadden had a good game, he could lose. So the objective is to take McFadden out of the game, if nothing else. With this game plan, you have Jason Campbell vs. the worst pass defense in the league. You’d think Jason would have lit up the scoreboard. Although he put up a lot of overall yards, he only comes away with 19 points, with 2 interceptions (one in the opponents end zone and one to Wilfork!) to boot? There’s plenty of blame to spread around for this one, but Campbell’s culpability is undeniable.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
I am still steamed at JC’s end zone interception but DMAC being pulled in the late second half because of injury or coaches decision also had a lot to do with the loss.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Our QB should have been offended that his opponents’ game plan was to stack the box, take away the run, and leave him with all of those passing options, and just punished them for their lack of respect. Campbell’s tough to motivate, isn’t he?
October 4th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
He’s not tough to motivate, he’s just an average QB. With the weapons the Raiders have on offense it’s tough to look bad.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Just hold the Texans to 24 points or less. Am I asking too much ? I predict 34-30 Raiders as long as DMAC is healthy.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Otis, with all due respect, I didn’t see the motivation in Campbell. He’s just so coy and reserved. He should have just opened up a can of dog schit on that defense. He should have sent a message to the league that even Bill Belichick doesn’t get away with stacking the box on him. It’s as if he didn’t care. The guy just has no emotion. Add to that a pick in the opponents end zone, with no Raider in sight, and a pick to a Nose Tackle. Campbell is talented, and is a very confident, sharp looking gentlemen. Perhaps he has a career in show business? He seems fit for it. He just doesn’t seem to have the stones for football. I hope I’m wrong.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:00 am
There is a simple but common denominator in both of our losses…..Turnovers!
Mcfadden’s turnover against Buffalo, changed the entire dynamic of that game. Likewise, Campbell’s turnover changed the entire dynamic against the Pats.
For the record, I think both Mcfadden and Campbell have been stars for our team, but it goes to show just how important it is to take care of the ball.
Once again, it is an example of the fact that the team who wins the turnover ratio, usually wins the game.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:03 am
I agree the man shows no fire but they just may be his personality. The second pick I won’t dog him because they happen but the first one was no excuse. If he can bounce back with a good game against the Texans then I think the Raiders will be fine. If he doesn’t then it is like you said, stack the box and put it in his hands.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:05 am
I won’t blame DMAC’s fumble for the Bills game. Is it too much to ask your defense to make one stop or even no stops but one field goal and four touchdowns in the second half ?
October 5th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Just imagine Rivers taking the field and noticing 8 and even 9 man fronts. Rodgers. Brady. Vick. Heck, Romo, Eli, Peyton…Those guys would be so jacked to see that. They would be offended. And they would just have a field day at the line of scrimmage, calling audibles, just flinging that sucker all over the field. And after the play they’d be running to their receiver, high fives, just rubbing it in the defense’s face for their utter disrespect of their passing game. It’s as if Campbell didn’t even know he was being disrespected. Man, this isn’t tennis. It’s football. You’ve got to let your fellow warriors know you’re a fighter. I just don’t see it in Campbell. He’s just so content.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Otis60 Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 12:03 am
I agree the man shows no fire but they just may be his personality.
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Ooh. Not a good answer, Otis. Not a good answer. Because you’re basically conceding to my point that he’s really not a football player from a mental standpoint. And you have to be that in this league, Otis. You just have to. If you need to see an example as to why, watch Campbell’s interceptions Sunday. One in the end zone, with no Raider in sight, and another to a DT? Those are the kinds of mistakes you make when you really, deep down inside, don’t care. A motivated QB is driven NOT to do those things.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:11 am
I don’t know what goes on inside JC’s head but I will never compare JC to Rodgers, Brady, Rivers or Peyton even if they were missing an arm and he wasn’t.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:14 am
If his mind is thinking on the inside like he looks on the outside I will concede your point. That interception in the end zone was one of the worst I have ever seen and he had some dog games last season. That being said, I will reserve my judgement for him at the half way mark of the season unless he throws a stinker against Houston.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:14 am
Why not? I think Cambell’s as talented as those QBs are. It’s drive that Campbell lacks. It’s drive, desire, and emotion that separates Campbell from the good QBs in this league. Football is a man’s sport. You have to respond to disrespect. Otherwise everyone loses faith in you, even if you’re ok with yourself. That’s what Campbell doesn’t understand. As soon as he saw 8 in the box, he should have said in the huddle, “can you believe this schit? We’re going to put 50 points on the board today”. He should have just been jacked. He didn’t care.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:17 am
He was a first round choice but what makes him so talented ? He can’t throw the long ball with much accuracy which probably gives Al night chills. We were not in the huddle so maybe he was pissed but he sure didn’t look it or sound it during after game interviews. Again, some people keep those pissed feelings inside.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:17 am
I hope he starts to show in some way that he actually cares by the mid point, Otis, because I’ve seen no sign of it yet. I’ve seen talent in Campbell. Haven’t seen an ounce of desire. Not an ounce, in this two years here.
Goodnight, Otis. Nice talking to you.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Bill outfoxed Hue, plain and simple. Knew Campbell didn’t have the minerals to carry the offense and essentially said “Go ahead, show us what you got Campbell.”
It’s funny because Hue talked about coaches not having guts to call certain plays, etc. Yet he ended up being the one playing it safe. No 56 yard FG from Seabass, no going for it on 4th down situations where he knew darn well that our D couldn’t stop them. I still think Hue is a good coach, but I say this one was a learning lesson for him.
Hue has been protecting Campbell for a while now. Those that don’t see it just don’t understand football. DMAC is Campbell’s best friend. In fact, Jason should be taking him out to dinner nightly because without a solid running game for defenses to respect, Jason is absolutely exposed. I read a lot in here about game management. Only if things are going well, friends. You saw how the INTs rattled him. He began making errant throws well off the mark.
That being said, Campbell can be sufficient as long as our running game isn’t being stuffed and DMAC isn’t injured. Without DMAC, our goose is cooked.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:19 am
I hope so too but I admit I have my doubts about him. Goodnight RMR, I have always enjoyed your posts.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:20 am
Reality, DMAC is our MVP. If he goes down for a few games we are toast.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Absolutely, Otis. And while M. Bush is a decent runner, he’s nowhere near DMAC so the dropoff is significant.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:22 am
I did scratch my head about punts and the not going for a 56 yard FG. I know Hue was scared of a short field but with the Patriots, 20 yards more is no big deal.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:24 am
I like Bush but he is an extra weapon not a replacement for DMAC.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:26 am
Otis60 Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 12:22 am
I did scratch my head about punts and the not going for a 56 yard FG. I know Hue was scared of a short field but with the Patriots, 20 yards more is no big deal.
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Especially the way our special teams and defense were playing. I believe on that decision to punt instead of kick the 56 yarder, within 1 offensive play the Pats were at the very spot on the field that the Raider would have given the ball up in case of a Jano miss.
Somebody needed to remind Hue that he was playing the Pats. If ever a team to keep the throttle to the floor on, it’s them If you’re not scoring, you’re losing. Period, End of story.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Very true about the Pats O. I was not that upset with our passing D. The run D is what upset me.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Now Taiwan Jones on the other hand, I think has star in him. Look out for that dude. I just wonder how we will respond to the pounding of being an NFL back.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Two extra field goals by the Raiders makes it a different game.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Reality, you took the words right out of my mouth with Taiwan Jones.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Yep, good point. Same here. Everyone in here was crying about the pass D and I just responded with, name me 5 teams that can stop the Pats passing attack. Heck, name me 3.
The fact that the D let the Pats run all over them is absolutely pathetic. Just about the worst rushing team in the league. Doesn’t make me very hopeful for next week.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Two extra field goals and no bonehead INT in the endzone makes it a *very* different game. I like our chances if that had happened.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:32 am
I feel we have a good chance against the Texans because our offense can hang with anyone. The trouble with our D is even if they have a great first half they could throw it all away like they did in Buffalo and like they almost did in Denver.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:35 am
Just the no bonehead interception changes the game. Man, it ticks me off.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:37 am
I think the mistakes will be key, again. Limit the penalties and the mistakes, and I agree with your assessment that we can hang with them.
I don’t know what it is with this team. Is it that hard to play smart? Mike Mitchell was an absolute bonehead on that kick coverage where he got nailed for roughness. Just a complete tool.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:41 am
Players will be aggressive. It is tough to hold back, even helmet to helmet, when going full tilt at that level and with that adrenaline pumping. The Big Rich foul was stupid. Whistle or no whistle, Brady had stopped moving and was slammed to the ground. That was okay in the 70’s but not in 2011 and especially not with one of the NFL’s golden children.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:52 am
Goodnight Reality.
October 5th, 2011 at 1:09 am
Goodnight, Otis.
October 5th, 2011 at 1:12 am
Watched the replay today. Boy, did the Raiders blow a golden opportunity.
The crowd was AMPED in the early going. Prior to the false start the look on Brady’s face was one I haven’t seen much; confusion & a bit tense. Not intimmidated but clearly not completely focused on the task @ hand. . .
But then Seymour, who definitely had the Patsies looking for him, made his bonehead play & went into a shell.
Obviously the pick in the end zone was a dagger. For this particular matchup the turnover battle was huge. Not only an end zone pick but what turned out to be a mortal momentum blow.
And, of course, the PI reversal call; Arrington had a hand on the small of Ford’s back just as their feet became entangles. it almost seemed like a technique to me; kinda like the holding call against Cromartie last week, wherein he grabbed DHB’s right arm slightly. Difference here was the ref was in the endzone, in front of the players. thus he couldn’t see the hand on the back. Cromartie was in open space; the ref could clearly (the announcers couldn’t) the contact. However, picking up the flag AFTER the ball was spotted is a new one, even for a lifeling Raider fan. . .that was the fatal momentum killer.
Contrary to popular belief the Raiders didn’t let down @ all; probably lost their resolve a bit due to the killer errors.
The patsies just don’t make mental errors (like ‘Soup’s end zone pick). . .
Just have to direct their attention to Houston. I know they have the Raiders undivided attention. . .
October 5th, 2011 at 1:18 am
One thing; the Raiders leaders will step it up this week; their teammates will depend on this to get them through the Houston game.
I’m confident the Raiders leaders (re: ‘Soup & Seymour) will overcome whatever ailed them last week (the Patsies?) & deliver a strong effort in Houston. . .
Raiders 31 Texans 27.
October 5th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Woke up screaming, F The World!!!
And that is what I am going to do today…F The World!
LET’S GO RAIDERS!!!!
October 5th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Are we still talking about the Patriots loss?
WHY ???
get over it and move on, gents. Happy Friday
who is ready to move on to the second quarter of the season?
Houston up first. We know this team VERY well and they usually beat us down. I think we’ve defeated them once since they entered the league and it was with JaWalrus at QB. That has to change this Sunday. I hate playing against Ryan in Dell’s FF league this week because he has McFadden and I think this could be one of those games where he scored 4 touchdowns (if healthy)
October 5th, 2011 at 6:37 am
scores*
but Ryan is also starting Matt Schaub & James Casey of Houston against Oakland, so Imma whip him like he’s Indy without Peyton
October 5th, 2011 at 6:40 am
honestly?
I think each team could rush for 200+ yards this Sunday.
Schaub is talented, but I think Chuck B & Mike Waufle will have heavy pressure on him to try and force turnovers. 4 sacks is my prediction
50 yards and a score from Denny Moore
125 yards and 3 key first downs for King Darrius!
October 5th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Oakland thugs 20 Houston Boots 17
October 5th, 2011 at 6:43 am
WOULD THAT BE KING DHB ROCKSTAR ?
October 5th, 2011 at 6:43 am
by the way, good mornign AM crew!
coffee is on me today
flavor of the month = english toffee, if you’re interested
Gabby !!!! get it going girl
Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, Plunk, BCZ, Dakota, JFB & Co
I miss you and the rest of the AM’ers
Sept thru April is pretty busy here at work. i’m only on early mornings and lunch break
October 5th, 2011 at 6:45 am
DLF, correct
DHB = King Darrius!
see you fellas later
October 5th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Rockstar, Dirt Lot…Good Morning Fellas!
Give my thanks to Gabby for that coffee!
October 5th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Some of the local writters here in oaklan seem stuck on hu jack various catch phrases like ” build a bully” & ” living on the edge”. Every chance they get they want to use those phrases to poke fun when we don’t win. The hate for Davis the raiders & whomever works for Al is thick & thinly veiled. Some have even gone so far a’s to state we can’t win until Al steps down.
Don’t get me wrong the writters do a good job reporting the news. I wish they would keep their anti raider slant filled opinions out of my sports page and off the radio & tv.
GTFOH WITH THAT GARBAGE!!!!!
October 5th, 2011 at 7:00 am
fyi
Listening to Houston Sports Radio yesterday and all they kept talking about is how tough the Ravens game next week will be as if the Raiders game is an afterthought, sorta like Paqcuiao talking about the fight with Mayweather before he faces Marquez. They seem to think the loss of Andre won’t affect them one bit because of the young and inexperienced DB’s. They think Jacoby Jones will fill in just fine in Dre’s absence. They only mentioned the Raiders as no pushover but that they shouldnt have any problem keeping up with the Titans.
October 5th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Dammit! Patriots just signed Sterling Moore to THEIR practice squad!!!
October 5th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Classic trap game scenario for the Texans. We need to have 8 in the box ALL day on Sunday. If houston moves away from the run and into pass mode that will only help our DLine. Stack the box and force schaub to beat us. We have to contain Foster, lucky for us their other backs are hurt so they wont be able to spell Foster. Hoping for him to pop his hammy in the first quarter again!
October 5th, 2011 at 7:20 am
There is an article in my paper banging on the defense & the defense has been lousy. My problem however is the writter is offering opinions but hasnt really looked into the issue, & is following a sheeple group think mentality.
He says routt isn’t living up to his contract, untrue! Routt is not just our best db he is one of the best in the nfl. He is near the very top in so called burn percentage & has only given up 1 td in 4 games. I say a db that allows 5 or less td for a season is worth his contract.
He slams kam nimbly pointing to his 1 sack. The real problem is we aren’t stopping the run. This allows teams 3rd & short which takes away our pass rush. We havnt been putting teams in long passing situations, therfore teams can run or short drop quick pass our pass rush. I garuntee that kam is still a sack machine he only needs an actual pass rushing down & distance to get it done just a’s any pass rusher does.
He slams romac & says p. Willis showed he was a star right away. Again a sever lack of study shows up here. Romac has more tackles than Willis & irks her & is tied with ray Lewis. He is 15th out of all lbs, including 4-3 &3-4 lb. He is number 6 amongst MLB. I’m not saying he is a star I’m saying the numbers show that the over the top criticism is not justified.
I guess since they can’t make fun of dmac or jamarcuss, dhb or jc any longer they need a new target, & romac is the flavor of the month. Do a little research before spewing that crap.
October 5th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Romac has more tackles than Willis & urlacher
October 5th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Pat Willis, I believe had a good teacher in Singletary that helped him smoothly make the transition from college to the NFL. His rookie year, pre-season game against us…of all people…LaMont Jordan ran his arse over…so, maybe McClain can get there! With Biekert as his position coach? That remains to be seen!
October 5th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I would gladly trade in Rolando’s TWO more tackles than Urlacher, for Urlacher’s 2 INT’s, 2 fumble recoveries and a TD.
McClain has goose-eggs in those categories.
October 5th, 2011 at 7:39 am
And I really like McClain.
Hyped him up as the guy we needed to draft, about 5 months in advance of us drafting him. Wear his jersey. I thought he played pretty well last year at times. I think his “weakness” in pass coverage is vastly overstated.
But I can’t brush my favoritism to him to the side after these first 4 games. He has missed way too many tackles, lacked energy, passion and hustle (inexcusable) and recently avoided accountability with his quotes.
Time to shape up Mr. McClain!!!
October 5th, 2011 at 7:42 am
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&tabSeq=2&qualified=true
something I never would have predicted, WOAW
October 5th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 7:20 am
There is an article in my paper banging on the defense & the defense has been lousy. My problem however is the writter is offering opinions but hasnt really looked into the issue, & is following a sheeple group think mentality.
He says routt isn’t living up to his contract, untrue! Routt is not just our best db he is one of the best in the nfl. He is near the very top in so called burn percentage & has only given up 1 td in 4 games. I say a db that allows 5 or less td for a season is worth his contract.
He slams kam nimbly pointing to his 1 sack. The real problem is we aren’t stopping the run. This allows teams 3rd & short which takes away our pass rush. We havnt been putting teams in long passing situations, therfore teams can run or short drop quick pass our pass rush. I garuntee that kam is still a sack machine he only needs an actual pass rushing down & distance to get it done just a’s any pass rusher does.
He slams romac & says p. Willis showed he was a star right away. Again a sever lack of study shows up here. Romac has more tackles than Willis & irks her & is tied with ray Lewis. He is 15th out of all lbs, including 4-3 &3-4 lb. He is number 6 amongst MLB. I’m not saying he is a star I’m saying the numbers show that the over the top criticism is not justified.
I guess since they can’t make fun of dmac or jamarcuss, dhb or jc any longer they need a new target, & romac is the flavor of the month. Do a little research before spewing that crap.
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F’k Monte Poole he is a raider hater. It’s his job to bash. Take what he says with a grain of salt
October 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
You know who’s worse though is Cam Inman…I wanna punch the guy in the head sometimes…
October 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Why does Raider defenses always suck, wanst Al supposed to be this defensive guru?
October 5th, 2011 at 8:01 am
McBosworth’s attitude sucks and he has no hutsle. He may have less hustle than JaCarcass NoHustle.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Can’t coach attitude. Guy has the tools but can’t put it together upstairs like so many other Raiders to pass through.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Comparisons to quality LBs and especially to DMC don’t really match up.
McFadden’s hustle and attitude were NEVER in question. Even when he was running into his own blockers, he did so at full speed.
McClain is hopefully just a young douchebag. I was dumb when I was 22 as well. Not quite as much a douche, but dumb.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:05 am
LMN, you wouldn’t have predicted the Raiders to be tops in rushing, after 4+ years of being one of the best rushing units in the league?
October 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Why does Raider defenses always suck, wanst Al supposed to be this defensive guru?
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Yup, people were raving about him in 1983.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
We have the top O line in the league? Wow! Just goes to show you how bad Jason Campbell really is.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Nah, Jason’s alright. Made two really bad mistakes. Was making all the right decisions prior to that. Even in that game, I could clearly see his improvement. Moving from one option to another quickly, stepping up in the pocket to avoid pressure, clock in his head finally tuned.
Jason will bounce back.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Look at the “power” rating to runs to the right. 100!!!
My man Carlisle WILL BE a Pro Bowler this year. Right now, he has allowed zero sacks and has zero penalties. Hasn’t been called for holding in 25 games.
Wiz = All-rookie team
Carlisle = Pro Bowler
Veldheer = Pro Bowl alternate
Book it!!
October 5th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Vegas,
I think Carlisle’s head was being called for because his name was never called. For a lineman, that’s usually a pretty good thing.
I don’t really ever see Carlisle bulldoze people but he’s always been solid. Don’t understand the heat he gets.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:16 am
1358.Kirk Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
We have the top O line in the league? Wow! Just goes to show you how bad Jason Campbell really is.
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Why do you say that? JC has been sacked twice (once by McFadden) and picked 3 times (once on a hail mary attempt, and once when DHB ran away from a ball that was in flight.) What makes JC bad? Please enlighten me in your all knowing ways?
October 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Book it?!?! Stop trying to bite my style bra, & Cooper turnstile is on his last legs. He still makes too many ridiculos plays getting dmac slammed.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Wiz has been outstanding at LG.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Raiders may have a good rating right, but their strength is running left. Think Coop’s primary duty is keeping Jason upright, which he’s done.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Hwnrdr Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 7:49 am
You know who’s worse though is Cam Inman…I wanna punch the guy in the head sometimes…
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F’k cam Inman too!!!
October 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain: Book It®
October 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
“Cooper turnstile is on his last legs. He still makes too many ridiculos plays getting dmac slammed.”
Silly old fool our O-Line is the best in the league stop hating and get on board for a winning season you bitter old man!
October 5th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Look at the “power” rating to runs to the right. 100!!!
My man Carlisle WILL BE a Pro Bowler this year. Right now, he has allowed zero sacks and has zero penalties. Hasn’t been called for holding in 25 games.
Wiz = All-rookie team
Carlisle = Pro Bowler
Veldheer = Pro Bowl alternate
Book it!!
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I agree. I said this last week. Our oline should yield at least at least one Pro Bowler
October 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
LA to TheBay: JaMarshmallow Truffle® & Rolando McBosworth®
Would like to claim Hue Jack City but think somebody beat me to it.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Mistic = old guy?
Wouldn’t have thought so.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:32 am
When the team needs a big run, they run the ball behind Satele and Carlisle.
Look at all the short distance runs (end of Denver game with Bush, goalline in Buffalo, this past game against the Pats). All right behind Carlisle.
Hue Jackson and Al Davis are no fools. That’s why Al signed him, and than re-signed him, and why Hue never even flinched at putting someone in place for Carlisle this year.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:05 am
LMN, you wouldn’t have predicted the Raiders to be tops in rushing, after 4+ years of being one of the best rushing units in the league?
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read the stat, and come back then, its the best O-line!! period, not just in rushing, but in sacks, qb-hits an so on, all combined wh have the best O-line!
and NO, I wouldnt have predicted that! not at all, I give it a few weeks, but then I may have to come up with apology to Wylie…. the most losing O-line coach in history, maybe finally have figured it out!
October 5th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Romac has more tackles than Willis & urlacher
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Yeah, just think what he would be if he wasnt half the LB they are…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:36 am
McRussell
October 5th, 2011 at 8:36 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Why does Raider defenses always suck, wanst Al supposed to be this defensive guru?
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Yup, people were raving about him in 1983.
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yeah LOL i guess, but ever since we have had a defense ranking in the 20’s…. eff it!
October 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
McRussell is playing out of position. He is not mike material…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Thec07 Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:36 am
McRussell
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wow y’all goin hard on McCleezy
but it’s justified
October 5th, 2011 at 8:40 am
since he is “good” in coverage move McRussell to SS or FS…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Cooper turnstile is on his last legs. He still makes too many ridiculos plays getting dmac slammed.
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Book it was used on this blog long before you poked your head in here.
You need to go back and watch Bush’s first TD against the Pats and look at the person leading on that play.
Stick to offering opinion and endless pearls of praise for JC. You at least have your talking points memorized to a decent degree and don’t sound completely ignorant.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:42 am
r8dercain, yep he was on my cross hairs last year…
I gave him the ” rookie pass”…Now its all in on him…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Damn thec you goin hard.
Lmao. Ss/fs
October 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
All the great LB’s in the league do not have Singletary developing them…McRuss shows ZERO heart…
He and JRUSS have a lot in common, and its not that they are both from bama…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Where is B? I can’t believe he isn’t in here slating DHB bright and early.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Think we will see more Moore v. Texans.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
read the stat, and come back then, its the best O-line!! period, not just in rushing, but in sacks, qb-hits an so on, all combined wh have the best O-line!
and NO, I wouldnt have predicted that! not at all, I give it a few weeks, but then I may have to come up with apology to Wylie…. the most losing O-line coach in history, maybe finally have figured it out!
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Apologies, I did take a second look.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:47 am
r8dercain, whats good brethren? Yeah he gets it…
This guy is a waste…Coming from the SEC he should have been ready to go and F the he needs to develop routine…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
“Cooper turnstile is on his last legs. He still makes too many ridiculos plays getting dmac slammed.”
Silly old fool our O-Line is the best in the league stop hating and get on board for a winning season you bitter old man!
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Mystic needs to go back to tongue kissing JC, and leave the o-line the fug alone.
Raids have the number one o-line in the NFL, but mystic thinks one of them is a bum.
LMFAO!
October 5th, 2011 at 8:49 am
They beat us then took Sterling Moore..
October 5th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Whem McRussell blitzes what impact has he had????
October 5th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Thec07 Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Whem McRussell blitzes what impact has he had????
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He never gets home, too slow.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
From Twitter:
SterlingMoore Sterling Moore
by Jerrymcd
Raider fans I appreciate all your Love and support. U guys have been great and ima miss all of u. Hope u guys continue to follow my journey.
25 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
SterlingMoore Sterling Moore
by Jerrymcd
For those of that you that haven’t heard yet. I’m now a Patriot and excited for this new chapter in my life…
October 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Only thing I can think of re: Moore is that whoever we’re cutting next week to make room for Pryor will get the remaining PS spot.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
1388.DeuceDeuce Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:49 am
They beat us then took Sterling Moore..
That is why I am more mad about this…but good luck to him!
October 5th, 2011 at 9:02 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
read the stat, and come back then, its the best O-line!! period, not just in rushing, but in sacks, qb-hits an so on, all combined wh have the best O-line!
and NO, I wouldnt have predicted that! not at all, I give it a few weeks, but then I may have to come up with apology to Wylie…. the most losing O-line coach in history, maybe finally have figured it out!
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Apologies, I did take a second look.
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NP, we live in fast world =)
October 5th, 2011 at 9:03 am
HOW THE WEST WAS WON
The AFC West after 4 games
http://www.raidernationstation.com/how_the_west_was_won
October 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Going in on the offense is ridiculous in my opinion.
Going in on EVERYBODY who is apart of this sh1tty D is appro po…That includes Coach Davis…
October 5th, 2011 at 9:05 am
CAN WE MAKE A MOVE!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
Cut Giordano!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 5th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Whats A Drexl? Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Where is B? I can’t believe he isn’t in here slating DHB bright and early.
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NO but I will though.
DHB playin time comes at the behest of a very good group of young receivers.
All the WR not named DHB will suffer from his forced(by Al Davis)playing time.
He sucks an will never be nothing more than say a mervyn fernandez
October 5th, 2011 at 9:08 am
the whole D from top to bottom needs to held accountable for this mess…
Big money guys;
routt
seymo
kelly
mcruss
where the hell are you guys when we need a stop????
October 5th, 2011 at 9:09 am
I can say I know where mcruss is…Two steps behind the offensive player…
October 5th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Coach Jackson although he gets a little too creative at times is doing a fantastic job with this O…
Only problem with the O is the best players need to be on the field the most…
The D with coach Davis, Coach Bresh, and the big money ball guys ALL suc horse a$$…
October 5th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Please notify the Oakland Raiders if you have seen the following persons : Kamerion Wimbley,
October 5th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Nice post Drexl
And funny!
October 5th, 2011 at 9:13 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 5th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Please notify the Oakland Raiders if you have seen the following persons : Kamerion Wimbley,
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The invisible man…I forgot about wimbley he is another big money guy…
October 5th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Team is spending a ton on these guys;
routt
seymo
kelly
mcruss
wimbley
Compare the spendign and production of the D vs O.
Which one is the better value 4 games in???
October 5th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Didn’t Hue make a comment regarding Patriots star players played like star players? Maybe subtle dig at Seymour, Kelly, McBosworth and Wimbley?
October 5th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Salaries of the D vs Salaries of the O.
Which one is a positive performing asset?
October 5th, 2011 at 9:21 am
To be fair to the front four, they had Brady on his @$$ most of the game. More so I think than any of Brady’s previous opponents.
And this is with 7 or 8 guys dropping back.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:22 am
La 2 Bay, he did take a very subtle swipe at the D however, If it were me I would thow everyone involde under the bus… Maybe that would shake them the F up… I know that protocol you keep stuff in house however, sometimes you need to put folks on blast…
October 5th, 2011 at 9:24 am
To be fair to the front four, they had Brady on his @$$ most of the game. More so I think than any of Brady’s previous opponents.
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Does that include the dumb play by captn seymo????
October 5th, 2011 at 9:32 am
our oline gna have it’s toughest test yet. On the road lot’s of blitzes let’s see if Jcampbell can burn them for blitzing….
October 5th, 2011 at 9:34 am
October 5th, 2011 at 9:21 am
To be fair to the front four, they had Brady on his @$$ most of the game. More so I think than any of Brady’s previous opponents.
And this is with 7 or 8 guys dropping back.
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very good point we got plenty of pressure but ask Belichick we had absolutely no game plan to stop Welker, porter seriously?
October 5th, 2011 at 9:35 am
DHB could have had 200 yards receiving last game, it doesnt matter. He still does not know how to play football. He jumps to catch passes with his stomach. Thats a grown man out there doing that, not a little kid who just started playing football. Im sure hes a nice guy, yes he HAS improved since his first year, as should anyone WR from year 1 to 3, but he STILL is not a good football player. I hope he has good games, I hope he gets TDs and helps us win since he is a Raider, but no one here can convince me that any WR that catches the ball like a lobster is a good player, or should be starting over other players that actually have PROVEN that they at least know how to play football, ie running routes and KNOWING HOW TO CATCH WITH YOUR HANDS and not your naval. As long as he plays for my time, I’ll hope he does well. I dont understand fans who want ANY player on their team to fail. But I recognize this dude is WAY behind men who have been playing football for years and understand the game and least of all, HOW TO CATCH WITH HANDS. I will say this, the fact that he has made it this far on athletic ability alone says a lot about the kind of superior athlete he is, and I commend him for working hard to make the improvements he has since hes been here, and maybe by year 5 or 6, he could be a complete monster of a WR IF he keeps learning the game and works to improve, but right now, this guy is far behind.
RoMac is just a bum out there. Bresnahan and he are a perfect match.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:35 am
La to the bay…… you forgot one Guy That hue may have been taking that. Subtle jab at: Jason Campbell. .. just thought I would point That out…
October 5th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Things I like about the 4th quarter of NE game I was too pissed to think about at the time:
- Goal line stand (Groves our best LB)
- 98/99 yard TD drive in 2 min offense with…
- Big catch by DHB in double coverage
- Jason stepping up in the pocket (which he did many times that game) on that throw and the next one to Bush
- Great leaping TD catch by Moore
In watching Jason carefully in this game, I think he will have a strong bounce-back game against Houston. He’s starting to put things together.
Can’t even say he had a bad game v. NE, just two really bad plays. And who knows what happens if the refs don’t pick up that PI flag.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:41 am
John David Booty,
That 50 yarder he caught was exactly what we’ve been waiting for. Jason hit him in perfect stride and he pulled it in with his hands and made a strong catch without leaping at the ball.
I see big time improvement from DHB. Chaz dropped the 2 pt. conversion after it hit him square between the numbers. Thin DHB could be a go-to guy along with Moore and Hagan with Ford being the big play man.
Ghost,
Maybe but I still think Jason is not our biggest issue. Not even close.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:41 am
With his two personal foul penalties and then his dissapearing act the rest of the game… I bet the patsies are happy they traded him away!! … they apparently didn’t think he was worth the cash!!
October 5th, 2011 at 9:42 am
very good point we got plenty of pressure but ask Belichick we had absolutely no game plan to stop Welker, porter seriously?
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I figured Wes would get his. We shut down everyone else. We needed to play the run well and we did not.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Nice touch. Just got an e-mail flyer sponsored by Hawaiian Airlines announcing a 2 for 1 deal on all tickets for the Raider Home divisional games. That’s a good deal for those out there without season tickets. Maybe there will be more sellout games.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Rolondo Mcclain is playing in his 19th game of his career and you are ready to run him out of town. talk about being an internet-microwave generation that wants everything instantly. Patience grass hopper. I bet you don’t even role play with yourself before you Jack O….fft
October 5th, 2011 at 9:53 am
LA to TheBay,
And thats the frustrating aspect about DHB, in college even, he leaps and makes this catches with his hands, the catch Sunday. Its like hes only focusing on athleticism at that moment, which is leaping, and doesnt overthink catching at that very moment, and comes down with the play. Yet a ball goes straight to his chest, and he leaps and tries to catch it with his stomach. This is a horrible habit that needs to be broken. Like I said, hes an amazing athlete, hes just not completely ready as a football player, and because of THAT alone, should not be starting. But Im not not a coach or a GM and any game he starts for the Raiders, I hope he pulls 150 yds and 3 TDS, Im just stating what Ive seen from him in 5+ years of watching him play football.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
LOL @ SharkCatcher
Yup, he’s young.
My problem isn’t lack of production or taking too long to progress, it’s his attitude and lack of hustle. Same problem I had with JaMarshmallow.
October 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Week One: Ghostraiders – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan44 – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
Week Four: Sullivan44
antispy3 Raiders 31 Texans 27
DMAC 31-28 Raiders
Method To My Madness Raiders 35 Texans 17
Oakland Raiders [BREAKING NEWS] blog on the high seas Oakland 38 Houston 17
Otis60 Raiders 34 Texans 30
qodrn Raiders 38 Texans 35
RaiderRockstar Oakland thugs 20 Houston Boots 17
Steve Corkran: High-scoring game, with the Texans winning unless Darren McFadden is healthy and churning up a ton of yardage.
October 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Raiders better bring a sack lunch and leave their women at home cuz them Texans gonna take their lunch money and their girlfriends
TEXANS 34
Raiders 0
Oh! and they better bring some side line doctors like the the Steelers did cuz they gonna need’em Ha! Ha! Cant wait to watch this A$& Woopin
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