Raiders seem to realize the better team won
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 3rd, 2011 at 12:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Subbing for Steve Corkran today . . .
Near as I can tell, there is no NFL rule prohibiting the Raiders from converting a third-and-10 at the New England 15-yard line.
That was what the Raiders faced after officials picked up a pass interference flag on Kyle Arrington when the Patriots defensive back got his feet tangled with Jacoby Ford. Instead of first-and-goal at the 2, it was third-and-10 from the 15.
Since there seems to be a notion in some quarters of the Twittersphere that it was the call that changed the game, perhaps the Raiders should have just packed it in and walked off the field right then. On the next play, Jason Campbell completed a 7-yard pass to Michael Bush, and Sebastian Janikowski kicked a 26-yard field goal on fourth-and-3 from the 8.
Instead of 24-17, it was 24-13.
If the Raiders are so weak of mind that the loss of four points with 3:25 left in the third quarter caused them to have irreversable damage to their spirit and psyche, then you can forget the playoffs.
Fortunately, the Raiders weren’t all that eager to blame anyone but themselves today, much in the same way they did following the game Sunday.
Ford said he was surprised the flag was picked up, that he’d never seen it before, and that the call happened at a crucial point in the game. But he hardly seemed destroyed by it.
“He just picked it up, keep moving,” Ford said. “You just got to go for the next down. It never really got brought back up, at all. So it just kind of happened, and it was done.”
In Sunday’s postgame, defensive tackle Richard Seymour took responsibility for both personal fouls on New England’s first scoring drive, although he had trouble hearing with the Black Hole roar on his roughing the passer penalty.
As for Wes Welker’s 21-yard catch to the 1-yard line against Chimdi Chekwa, originally ruled out of bounds, the referees got it right. Welker got both feet in and made a catch of a perfect pass by Brady.
More Monday items:
– The week-to-week nature of the NFL makes panicking among the fan base a way of life. Take a step back and the Raiders lost a game to a better (on that day) team while missing four starters. They’ve got another tough game coming up in Houston and could conceivably be 2-3.
And that’s not the end of the world.
The next three opponents after the Texans are home games against Cleveland and Kansas City, then a bye week, then another home game against Denver.
The Raiders could be 5-3 heading into a Thursday night showdown in San Diego.
– The Raiders actually kept Brady from spreading the ball around as much as usual, with Welker catching nine passes and nobody else catching more than two.
“He’s real good at running his routes and he and Brady seem like they’re on the same page, got a lot of ESP going on,’’ cornerback Stanford Routt said. “Right now they’re the best quarterback-receiver combo in the game.’’
Routt said New England simply executed their offense better than the Raiders did on defense.
“New England, they do a good job of executing, and if you don’t execute on defense, you’re not going to win,’’ cornerback Stanford Routt said. Whatever the coverage is, whatever the call is, you’ve got to play it to the best of your ability.’’
– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain said of the Patriots, “Obviously they’re a good team. You’ve got to give them credit. They played a great game so it’s a learning experience. We’ll watch the film, we’ll get better from it and try to fix some things before we get ready to play Houston.’’
Regarding the Raiders’ tackling, McClain said, “Not make any excuses fut I think for the most part we did all right tackling. We can always do better, we will do better. We’ll get better at every aspect of our defense. At the end of the day we still haven’t played our best football. I’ve got confidence in the guys around me and the coaching staff and we’ll get things fixed and we will be pretty good.’’
– Ron Parker, promoted from the practice squad to the 53-man roster after a week of practice, is a former Newberry College safety who is working at cornerback for the Raiders. He was active and played on special teams.
“It was fun, that’s what I was waiting on, my chance to go out there and compete with the guys,’’ Parker said. “I finally got my opportunity.’’
More to come after Hue Jackson press conference . . .
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October 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Shuddup libtard
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# KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Stupid Penalties, Can’t stop the run. Raider problems that never get fixed.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
first!
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
damn
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Read a few rumors (Johnson) This is what I found…
The Texans fear Andre Johnson (hamstring) may miss at least few weeks, according to CBS Sports’ Mike Freeman.
Per Freeman, some members of the organization already consider Johnson’s chances of playing in Week 5 “extremely slim.” Johnson’s pulled hamstring certainly looked severe as he went down in a heap during the second quarter Sunday. He is scheduled for a Monday MRI, so no one can be exactly sure yet how long Johnson will be sidelined. Owners can add Jacoby Jones in the meantime.
Related: Jacoby Jones
Source: CBS Sports
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
KK the clown, after a win you are MIA for 2 days after a loss you jump in right quick with your depressing negative horse sh1t.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
woulda shoulda coulda but we showed we can hang with the best and last week showed we can beat the best. Media jumps on the silver and black wagon when we’re winnin but f them we piss on you same with fans who are talking shi# now but when we’re in the playoffs gna be predicting “us” to win
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Tired of hearing the same schyt week after week, but seeing the same foolishness week after week.
Dumb penalties in the red zone that negate first downs, or that extend drives for the opposing offense,
secondary getting shredded,
missed tackles,
can’t stop the run consistently.
And every week we hear the same crap. Win or lose, we see this stuff every week.
Even if we win a game playing like this, sooner or later it will get you killed in this league! Gotta get it fixed now Hue!
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
bcz24 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
The whole idea of having someone tune him up at the LOS was to cause injury and remove him from the game. We chose not to do that so he just pants us, gave our DB’s a wedgie, and ate our lunch. Not beating his a$$ at the LOS – a great Bresnahan defensive decision. Get rid of that LOSER.
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Seriously dude if you think any team in the NFL would game plan by trying to injure a guy that you are an idiot.
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BCZ24, you must be very naive. Players put heavy hard hits on opponents for the purposes of knocking them out of the game. That’s not an exception, that’s the rule. The whole idea is to separate the player from the ball and if you are really effective, separating the player from the game. When I referenced injuring a [layer I’m talking about knocking them silly to the point where they have to leave the game – not causing a permanent injury.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Like I said, taking responsibilty and not blaming the refs…it IS a step in the right direction! Yes, the refs made calls only the Raiders can get, like always, but good Riader teams play through it!
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
This is pure BS Jerry. Of course the players have to say this and there is no doubt that the defense and Campbell let us down, but failure to properly address the questionable (i.e. blatantly incompetent)officiating is just poor journalism. Have some guts and write the story dammit!
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
I hate when people expect the Raiders to just accept having to make more plays and get more yards than other teams because of huge costly bad calls. This is realy rediculous. Why are the Raiders expected toto convert a third and long after a blown call? There are no other teams expected to do this. If they are screwed by the refs people have outrage and sympathy for the players. The Raiders are expected to get an extra TD or two a game to make up for the ones taken away.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Good teams have tons of talent, and make tons of plays. Great teams have tons of talent, make tons of plays, and don’t make mistakes. We are a good team right now. That pats are a great team. We stop making mistakes, we win that game. We stop making mistakes and we are a great team. As simple as that.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
The game was all bad after the Campbell int in the end zone. Killed the momentum and silence the coliseum. Didn’t have much of an chance after that.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Obviously, our defense is still at the bottom of the league.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
REPOST:
BTW, I remember a few years ago seeing footage shot in the wild of a pack of lions trying to take down an elephant. That’s what McFadden looked like trying to tackle Wilfork on his INT.
Here it is. You be the judge. Fast forward to about 5:50:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ZW0EvMzSM
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
DMAC the coliseum was fkin weak all morning and afternoon long…energy was lame…I blame many people who were in the stands for this loss too
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I was just starting to believe in Campbell, when all of a sudden he threw that perfect strike to Patrick Chung in the end zone.
WTF?
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Hey Jer,
Do you think their feet got tangled because of the reverse arm bar Arrington was giving Ford?
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
And also…all you people last week who went to the game and cheered when you saw Buffalo beating the Pats 34-31 on the jumbotron….GO TO HELL!
I shouted to my entire section that they were dummies rooting for the Pats to lose right before they come here. Bunch of selfish punks is what you are!
You always want a team to be feeling good about a win heading to your house. Pats outplayed the Raiders cuz they were that scared of losing 2 straight
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Unfortunately, the Raiders have raised a generation of whining excuses making fans, as well.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Method: You blame fans in the stands for a game that was as lopsided as that? They got beat on the field, not in the third deck. Have you ever played a team sport in your life? What an ass clown comment.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
make no mistake jerry we still might lose the game after the bad call but we might win the game we shouldn’t always have to overcome this bs
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Jerry doesn’t see a one TD deficit as opposed to a 2 score deficit a big difference against the best offense in the league? It’s the difference in having to stop NE once to catch up and having to stop them twice to catch up. Needing to have two unanswered scores against the Pats is very daunting.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
17.DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I was just starting to believe in Campbell, when all of a sudden he threw that perfect strike to Patrick Chung in the end zone.
WTF?
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He thought DHB was gonna be a real WR…..thats JC’s fault and even moreso on Hue for not even trying to ram it down their throats. JC dropped back over 40 times….fkin 40! Hue this is on you…head coach must have his team more prepared
And dammit Hue if you wanna show you really run schit…start fining the players for bonehead penalties….do something to dock them for BS. This schit cant be tolerated anymore
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
The Raiders are far from the only team to have bad calls against them yesterday. Ours just hurt more, because they happen to us.
There was a chance to get a 1st-down after that PI was picked up, and we fell short. It’s possible the play-call was bad…and the target should’ve been beyond the 1st-down marker. There were times yesterday that a smartly thrown bullet into the end zone would’ve resulted in a TD for the Raiders, and that 3rd-and-15 was an example of it. At least past the marker, anyway.
The refs sucked yesterday…but they didn’t kill the team. The team killed the team.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Can’t make mistakes against the Pats or teams of that calibur.
You gotta protect the ball, and when you have an opportunity to get Brady off the field, you don’t give him an extra set of downs. Sooner or later he’ll make you pay.
Valuable lessons that I would rather have our fairly young team learn from NOW, than in December and January!
War wounds like Brien said. But whatever doesn’t kill real men, makes us STRONGER.
Let’s see how we respond next week! We seriously need to get healthy tho.
Sho Nasty, Huff, Mitchell, DMac, Ford, we need em at full strength!
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
21.BornInOakland Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Method: You blame fans in the stands for a game that was as lopsided as that? They got beat on the field, not in the third deck. Have you ever played a team sport in your life? What an ass clown comment.
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Stupid btch I sit in first deck in North Endzone so kiss my ass you imbecile
You fool hell yeah I played sports unlike a Male figure skating fruitcake such as yourself
Ever heard of a 12th man? Dumb ass…go back to the kiddie pool newbie and direct your posts somewhere else…you not smart enough to deal with me
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
17.DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I was just starting to believe in Campbell, when all of a sudden he threw that perfect strike to Patrick Chung in the end zone.
WTF?
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He thought DHB was gonna be a real WR…..thats JC’s fault and even moreso on Hue for not even trying to ram it down their throats. JC dropped back over 40 times….fkin 40! Hue this is on you…head coach must have his team more prepared
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I’ll have to go back and see it.
DHB near that ball anywhere?
I thought I saw nothing but Pats there. Could be wrong though. Will have to see it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
22.inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
make no mistake jerry we still might lose the game after the bad call but we might win the game we shouldn’t always have to overcome this bs
23.Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Jerry doesn’t see a one TD deficit as opposed to a 2 score deficit a big difference against the best offense in the league? It’s the difference in having to stop NE once to catch up and having to stop them twice to catch up. Needing to have two unanswered scores against the Pats is very daunting.
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Jerry Phagdonald grew up a niner fan….hell do you expect?
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
28.DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
17.DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I was just starting to believe in Campbell, when all of a sudden he threw that perfect strike to Patrick Chung in the end zone.
WTF?
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He thought DHB was gonna be a real WR…..thats JC’s fault and even moreso on Hue for not even trying to ram it down their throats. JC dropped back over 40 times….fkin 40! Hue this is on you…head coach must have his team more prepared
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I’ll have to go back and see it.
DHB near that ball anywhere?
I thought I saw nothing but Pats there. Could be wrong though. Will have to see it.
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JC made a bonehead play and thought someone was gonna undercut and be where Chung was
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Hmm hmm, well there it is!
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Very diplomatic article Jerry. Politically correct. Everything you say is true.
But it doesnt change the FACT that the calls and non-calls against us had a dramatic effect on the game. AS USUAL.
Raiders just have to overcome this. This is what they did in the Gannon era. It’s never going to change.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
CW — Right on the money…Arrington had that hook into JFord’s shoulder the whole time — he never disconnected after 5-yards. Absolutely a PI call, reversed incorrectly by a ref who didn’t have the angle to see the entire play. Total BS.
Still didn’t cost us the game…just another part of the failure.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
DMAC,
I think DHB was supposed to be crossing at the back of the endzone but he hit the brakes. Like I posted earlier, even if it was Tim Brown running that route, campbell had no business trying to get that ball to him with 3 pats right there.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
With all the focus on penalties, Welker’s big day and Campbell’s brutal INT, people are overlooking the big problem yesterday and all season so far.
We can’t stop the run at all.
The run defense has actually gotten worse this year. Opposing running backs are going untouched through the middle of the defense play after play.
The front four, which was supposed to be among the best in the league, has been brutal. Kelly never penetrates. Seymour is easily blocked. Houston has been mediocre at best. Shaughnessy did little before his injury.
I’ve tried to look for promise in McClain. But the fact is that he can’t get off blocks and is a non-factor on too many plays between the tackles. He also appears to be too slow to play the middle in a 4-3.
Who has been the best player in the front seven so far? I can’t even pick one. Groves?
If we can’t stop the run at an average level, sometimes forcing opposing offenses into obvious passing downs, we are doomed to lose shoot-outs all year.
It’s crazy that we finally have a strong offense, but the D can’t stop anyone. Arian Foster will kill us.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1370529&srvc=home&position=active
“They felt it with 2:15 left in the first half when for no discernible reason except feeling the need to do something, Jason Campbell threw an interception into the belly of Patrick Chung as the Pats safety stood alone in the middle of the end zone. Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey was supposed to bend his route inside but had shown no sign he intended to. Campbell should have seen that because he was under no duress . . . except for the duress Brady had just put him under by scoring on the previous drive to take the lead back”
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
32.daraider09 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Very diplomatic article Jerry. Politically correct. Everything you say is true.
But it doesnt change the FACT that the calls and non-calls against us had a dramatic effect on the game. AS USUAL.
Raiders just have to overcome this. This is what they did in the Gannon era. It’s never going to change.
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Jerry is never correct….he is a 49er ingrate and deserves to be put to death
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Jerry doesn’t see a one TD deficit as opposed to a 2 score deficit a big difference against the best offense in the league? It’s the difference in having to stop NE once to catch up and having to stop them twice to catch up. Needing to have two unanswered scores against the Pats is very daunting.
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Well said. I’m glad the players aren’t dwelling on it or making excuses, but that was a huge play. First and goal from the two and an almost assured TD, or 3rd and 10 from the 15 is a big f-ing difference. It wasn’t the whole game, but it could’ve been a whole different game if the refs don’t pick up the flag and reverse the call as it was made correctly on the field.
Hmmmm. The refs reversing a call that was correctly made on the field, long after the fact, in a Raiders-Pats game. Hmmmm. Why does that sound so familiar?
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Don’t worry about… jc just had a bad day!! I have faith that he’s going to come back next week and redeem himself!!, … he’s going to be a great qb for this team… just watch?? Al Davis is ready to give him a multi million dollar Contract…. he needs to resign him now!!…. don’t believe me??? Just ask mistic?? Ne knows everything!! So it must be true!,, LOL
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
The front four, which was supposed to be among the best in the league, has been brutal. Kelly never penetrates. Seymour is easily blocked. Houston has been mediocre at best. Shaughnessy did little before his injury.
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Yep and Big john my dawg didnt play well and Des Bryant will never play the run well
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
32.daraider09 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Very diplomatic article Jerry. Politically correct. Everything you say is true.
But it doesnt change the FACT that the calls and non-calls against us had a dramatic effect on the game. AS USUAL.
Raiders just have to overcome this. This is what they did in the Gannon era. It’s never going to change.
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Jerry is never correct….he is a 49er ingrate and deserves to be put to death
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Damn. That’s that Ether right there, lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
HD37, it didn’t cost us the game but it’s not as if the flag WASN’T thrown on that play. that’s the problem I have, if it’s not thrown ok, they missed it but to pick it up!
The game was lost in the 1st half IMO.
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
38.Chris in NY Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Jerry doesn’t see a one TD deficit as opposed to a 2 score deficit a big difference against the best offense in the league? It’s the difference in having to stop NE once to catch up and having to stop them twice to catch up. Needing to have two unanswered scores against the Pats is very daunting.
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Well said. I’m glad the players aren’t dwelling on it or making excuses, but that was a huge play. First and goal from the two and an almost assured TD, or 3rd and 10 from the 15 is a big f-ing difference. It wasn’t the whole game, but it could’ve been a whole different game if the refs don’t pick up the flag and reverse the call as it was made correctly on the field.
Hmmmm. The refs reversing a call that was correctly made on the field, long after the fact, in a Raiders-Pats game. Hmmmm. Why does that sound so familiar?
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Our section already knew they were picking that flag up….blatant bad call which we will get an apology for later on lmao
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
It’s just one of those games that you want to flush down the toilet.The Veldeeher push in the back on the first drive was such a bs call.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
41.ArmChair GM Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
32.daraider09 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Very diplomatic article Jerry. Politically correct. Everything you say is true.
But it doesnt change the FACT that the calls and non-calls against us had a dramatic effect on the game. AS USUAL.
Raiders just have to overcome this. This is what they did in the Gannon era. It’s never going to change.
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Jerry is never correct….he is a 49er ingrate and deserves to be put to death
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Damn. That’s that Ether right there, lol
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What’s the area code? 510? Ether is apart of my program
“I’ll prove you lost already”
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Saw more of Bush yesterday. Hope DMAC is 100%
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October 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
42.Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
HD37, it didn’t cost us the game but it’s not as if the flag WASN’T thrown on that play. that’s the problem I have, if it’s not thrown ok, they missed it but to pick it up!
The game was lost in the 1st half IMO.
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Maybe but it was even more discouraging watching Brady march up field to go up 14 after the half….that sealed it
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
In my section down by/in the Black Hole, we were rockin’…so loud Seymour allegedly couldn’t hear the whistle.
The South end zone is always there to do its part. Can’t say much for that North end zone, though!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
i am going to rewatch the game tonite…
will note the errors and blunders of no. 55
Some of you guys want to give him a pass, f that…
He is the QB of the d however, he is not qualified…
He is not a leader of men…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
poor excuse by seymour, better to admit he lit his emo get hold….
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
In my section down by/in the Black Hole, we were rockin’…so loud Seymour allegedly couldn’t hear the whistle.
The South end zone is always there to do its part. Can’t say much for that North end zone, though!
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All I know is…..
I did my part in Sec 327
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
mcclain <—— "finnesse LB"
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
That’s what I mean. We know they get the ball to start the 2nd half. To be up 17-14 rather than down 17-10 to start the 3rd Q is HUGE! To me that pick was the nail in the coffin unless our D can score LOL!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
# Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
That’s what I mean. We know they get the ball to start the 2nd half. To be up 17-14 rather than down 17-10 to start the 3rd Q is HUGE! To me that pick was the nail in the coffin unless our D can score LOL!
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Good point. Being down 21-17 is way different than being down 24-10 against Brady Bieber.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
48.HayesDaze37 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
In my section down by/in the Black Hole, we were rockin’…so loud Seymour allegedly couldn’t hear the whistle.
The South end zone is always there to do its part. Can’t say much for that North end zone, though!
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That’s bullschit…black hole is the worse part of the coliseum….most least knwledgeable cats inthe whole place….schit wasnt rocking and they know schit over there
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
North Endzone<—-always been the best part ofthe Coliseum and its not close
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
we have a QB of our D in over his head…
You guys mention a coverage play BFD…
When has ncclain blitzed and got a qb sack?????
who would you compare mcclain too in the NFL????
not singeltary
not lewis
not butkus
not even willis
hell takeo spikes is better than mcclain…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Game was lost in the first half.
Game could’ve been won in the second half.
Failures all over the field…and no excuses for any of them. No matter what KK says.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
I think DMAC is fine. Those Bush carries were probably just a part of an overall bad strategy of not doing the obvious: Giving it to DMAC time and time again until the defense is cringing while trying to tackle him, after he levels his shoulder a few times and punishes them at the end of big runs. No excuse not giving him 30 carries. The Pats know their strength (Brady and Welker), and we forgot ours (DMAC and O-Line).
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
yeah we need to stop making excuses for mcclain…
he is not a leader of men….Zero fire, Zero inspiration…
The D is his and he half assed it…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
i am going to rewatch the game tonite…
will note the errors and blunders of no. 55
Some of you guys want to give him a pass, f that…
He is the QB of the d however, he is not qualified…
He is not a leader of men…
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Maybe McClain takes that MLB is the QB of the defense stuff too literally. Not very aggressive or active. Just kind of hangs out in the middle of the field like he’s hanging cool in the pocket. Guy does a lot of jogging on Sundays.
I recall not wanting McClain leading up to the 2010 Draft and said so repeatedly in here. I had watched several ‘Bama games that year and he never made an impression on me. I watched compilations of his play on YouTube and saw pretty much the same thing we’re seeing now, a lot of plays where he’s loafing around out there and not making a whole lot happen. I was hoping I was wrong because it seemed every scout and their mother thought he was a slam-dunk pick at MLB. But I’m really starting to fear I was right.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Amanda Knox is free and I am headed to Seattle to see if she wants to star in a porno.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Put me on record for going in on mcclain, if he proves me wrong I will gladly admit it…..
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
McClain is Not That Dude right now.
Best potential I’ve seen from him so far is in defending the pass. Not exactly what you want to say about your franchise Middle Linebacker.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Our defense sucks. It will always have a few good games when they play a bad O-Line and they can dominate physically. But other than that we can look forward to more 150+ yard rushing games by teams who dont even run the ball well, and 300+ yard passing games by decent QBs.
They should all just focus on stripping the ball from ball carriers because they cant make anyone punt and cant get more than 1 INT per 3 or 4 weeks. They are pitiful. And for the most part since I’ve been watching, its always been that way (started watching in 1990).
Defensive coordinator Davis.
Dominate physically, thats all it takes to win!>>>>What a joke.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Whatever NE is the type of team we beat come playoffs
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
The Black Hole doesn’t rock?
Must be why all over the NFL they say, “Man, we’ve got to play the Raiders in the North end zone.”
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
LMFAO!!
Krappy tucked his tail and hid like a coward all last week after a win. C
He comes in all crowing like a rooster after a loss.
Krappy you are the picture in the dictionary, under the word: Douche Bag.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
I recall not wanting McClain leading up to the 2010 Draft and said so repeatedly in here. I had watched several ‘Bama games that year and he never made an impression on me.
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ditto, watched a lot of CFB and he was not an attacking mauler type….Sit back and wait kinda guy…
I am allready over him however, I will go in on him until he improves….
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
If Campbell is supposed to be the next Plunkett, I don’t remember Plunkett throwing the ball where any one of 3 defenders could catch it and his nearest receiver was not within 5 yrds. I agree, the Raiders deflated after that brain fart and instead of it being 17-14 Raiders at 1/2 time or at the worst 17-17,
17-10 NE was ego defeat. Loved the throw to Wilfork, nice hands for a DL. lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
But I really like the offense, and I trust Campbell to not make mistakes like that. He is usually Mr Cautious. So one bad decision doesnt define him.
He runs the offense very well. Not everyone is Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
McClain is Not That Dude right now.
Best potential I’ve seen from him so far is in defending the pass. Not exactly what you want to say about your franchise Middle Linebacker.
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we could have kept kirk for that….RR was right…
For my money mcclain nada…He sure as hell aint a MLB…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
McClain is not the RoBeast
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
I think DMAC is fine. Those Bush carries were probably just a part of an overall bad strategy of not doing the obvious: Giving it to DMAC time and time again until the defense is cringing while trying to tackle him, after he levels his shoulder a few times and punishes them at the end of big runs. No excuse not giving him 30 carries. The Pats know their strength (Brady and Welker), and we forgot ours (DMAC and O-Line).
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Yeah. Some iffy calls in the red zone. I blame Hue.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
70.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
If Campbell is supposed to be the next Plunkett, I don’t remember Plunkett throwing the ball where any one of 3 defenders could catch it and his nearest receiver was not within 5 yrds. I agree, the Raiders deflated after that brain fart and instead of it being 17-14 Raiders at 1/2 time or at the worst 17-17,
17-10 NE was ego defeat. Loved the throw to Wilfork, nice hands for a DL. lol
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False my friend
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Asomugha a symbol of early Eagles struggles
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Eagles fans are wondering when “Nnamdi Asomugha, shutdown cornerback” will arrive on the scene. Asomugha may be wondering if he chose a team that knows what he can do well.
Asomugha struggled against the 49ers on Sunday and hasn’t made an impact with his new team. He played well against Vernon Davis in man coverage, but gave up a big 38-yard catch to Michael Crabtree late in the game. Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer writes Asomugha has “looked lost” when he plays zone.
Michael Lombardi of NFL.com breaks it down further:
“Asomugha plays more zone than man. In fact, if the opponent lines up in slot formation away from Asomugha, he becomes the free safety in the middle of the field. Not where Asomugha wants to be, or where he plays his best,” Lombardi writes.
Give Asomugha credit for facing the music after the game and trying to explain what went wrong.
Still, that attitude won’t quiet the criticism in Philly. The Eagles were called an “expensive mistake” by Phil Sheridan .
Asomugha and his teammates get their chance to change the narrative in the next two weeks in Buffalo and Washington.
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for my boys ROG & Mr Brown
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Despite everything yesterday Big Dlck Seymour gets a F-U for his 2 penalties in helping the pats to a 7-0 lead. WE had them buried deep in their own end 3rd & 20 then Big Dlck steps up his game.
After they punt we’re at our own 45 at worst to start a drive wit hthe score 0-0.
F-U Dlck Seymour!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
McClain = a 6-5, 255 lbs finesse MLB. Pffft.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
McClain is not the RoBeast
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Not at all. He’s more like Snarf from the Thundercats.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
McClain is not the RoBeast
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lol…to say the least…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
No excuses for missing tackles, or for missing assignments…but RoMcClain is still only a 2nd-year player.
McClain’s doing OK, just OK…but we expect more from him at this stage of his career, as we should. He’s got physical gifts few players at his position ever have…and he needs to start playing-up to expectations. Yesterday already.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Asomugha a symbol of early Eagles struggles
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Eagles fans are wondering when “Nnamdi Asomugha, shutdown cornerback” will arrive on the scene. Asomugha may be wondering if he chose a team that knows what he can do well.
Asomugha struggled against the 49ers on Sunday and hasn’t made an impact with his new team. He played well against Vernon Davis in man coverage, but gave up a big 38-yard catch to Michael Crabtree late in the game. Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer writes Asomugha has “looked lost” when he plays zone.
Michael Lombardi of NFL.com breaks it down further:
“Asomugha plays more zone than man. In fact, if the opponent lines up in slot formation away from Asomugha, he becomes the free safety in the middle of the field. Not where Asomugha wants to be, or where he plays his best,” Lombardi writes.
Give Asomugha credit for facing the music after the game and trying to explain what went wrong.
Still, that attitude won’t quiet the criticism in Philly. The Eagles were called an “expensive mistake” by Phil Sheridan .
Asomugha and his teammates get their chance to change the narrative in the next two weeks in Buffalo and Washington.
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Sounds like Deangelo Hall playing man!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Past present and future who does mcclain remind you of?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
We arent the dumbest team in America… we just have the dumbest fans.
-BCZ
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Sounds like an MR type of comment
Yikes!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
McClain’s doing OK, just OK…but we expect more from him at this stage of his career, as we should. He’s got physical gifts few players at his position ever have…and he needs to start playing-up to expectations. Yesterday already.
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Am I the only guy that thinks he’s got a sh;tty, immature attitude?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Should have waited 1 more week to resod the infield.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
McClain is not the RoBeast
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Not at all. He’s more like Snarf from the Thundercats.
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Or Cringer from He-Man.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
urlacher
matthews
cushing
maluga
rivers
wills
fujita
vilma
tspikes
bspikes
all of these guys are hands down better than mcclain
Lbrigss
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Past present and future who does mcclain remind you of?
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Right now, he reminds me of a not very explosive, 6-5, 255 DE faking it at MLB because the starter and backup MLBs got hurt.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Past present and future who does mcclain remind you of?
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Right now, the Boz, LOL.
Not as if he can’t improve. This time in 2009, McFadden was a total bust, remember? And DHB would maybe get 114 yards in a whole season.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Am I the only guy that thinks he’s got a sh;tty, immature attitude?
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he is not a leader of men…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Right now, the Boz, LOL.
Not as if he can’t improve. This time in 2009, McFadden was a total bust, remember? And DHB would maybe get 114 yards in a whole season.
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SEE PWILLIS…Came into the league and will knock the SH!T outta you… He is a force at mike…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
“Since there seems to be a notion in some quarters of the Twittersphere that it was the call that changed the game”.
untrue, I do not subscribe to the theory that a reversed penalty as being the cornerstone to Sunday’s loss.
That Hue settled for a field goal, rather than going for it on 4th down was a mistake. He seemed to have packed it in at that point. Guy was losing his mind at what he was seeing with his own lying eyes.
The Pat O had scored ever time they had the ball, well almost. Hue thinking 3 points were going to help anything at that point of the game seems a stray from his “I’m a crazy, don’t know what I’ll do next” play calling persona.
Fug the penalty.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
79.ArmChair GM Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
McClain is not the RoBeast
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Not at all. He’s more like Snarf from the Thundercats.
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HAHAHAHA
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
mcclain bosworth
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Rob Fredrickson > Rolando McClain
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
To be fair, the guy is like 22 and still better than Kirk Morrison (RRS), cause at least Ro can play the pass.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
rolando bosworth
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
I blame Hue.
Hue after Ford reverse why in the fk dont you just keep pounding the rock into the endzone. Stop gettin cute
also stunk vs the run
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ROG,
Hue Jackson is a play caller, but he’s not a Head Coach
get it?
Thats what I said BEFORE we fired him and I still stand by it … and even his play calling is questionable at times!
Remember when everybody said that the best thing Kiffin ever did was bring along a solid O-Line coach in Cable?
Well, to date, the best thing Jackson has ever done is bring along a solid O-Line coach in Wylie!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
brian mcclain
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
93.Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
“Since there seems to be a notion in some quarters of the Twittersphere that it was the call that changed the game”.
untrue, I do not subscribe to the theory that a reversed penalty as being the cornerstone to Sunday’s loss.
That Hue settled for a field goal, rather than going for it on 4th down was a mistake. He seemed to have packed it in at that point. Guy was losing his mind at what he was seeing with his own lying eyes.
The Pat O had scored ever time they had the ball, well almost. Hue thinking 3 points were going to help anything at that point of the game seems a stray from his “I’m a crazy, don’t know what I’ll do next” play calling persona.
Fug the penalty.
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truth
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Just a thought, but with all that went wrong yesterday and there was a lot, the Raiders did play with a drive and passion only seen on rare occasions. They could have but didn’t quit. How many other teams have got burnt by Welker?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
96.Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Rob Fredrickson > Rolando McClain
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Elijah Alexander> Romac
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RaiderRockstar, whats up man…I will go on record as saying you were right Bruh…
mcclain is the suspect…suspected of impersonating a mlb…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Hue Jackson has not done the job he needs to do to clamp down on the stupid penalties period
ROMAC, Houston & Wimbley are nowhere to be found this year. Especially ROMAC
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Agreed with JR77!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
ROG,
Hue Jackson is a play caller, but he’s not a Head Coach
get it?
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2-2. Chill.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Boz > McClain
Although I must admit that I think the Boz is vastly underrated and had a forgettable NFL career due to injuries, not poor performance.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Dhb made four catches cant sh8t on him today ..let’s attack Mcclain for week. Keep Complaining like lil female dogs. Everyone’s statement starts with ..” I had seen tape of so and so and I knew I was right” This just in I don’t give a flying DUCk ..yes Duck!! lost the turnover battle. Lost the game.Simple.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
if one thing makes me mad with Hue its his bs playcalling at times
Hue gets too cute. Meat and Potatoes…run the ball!
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ROG,
I keep waiting for this guy to prove me wrong.
every time it’s 1 step forward, 2 steps back
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Cable is a lousy line coach. The only thing he can beat are women and guys who trip and break their jaws. By the way, whatever became of Randy?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Who should be suprised the Raiders lost when you do not go to your playmaker Denarius Moore? He should been there for every snap and targeted early on. Pathetic play calling.
And if Hue really is Als’ b1tch, then he has aready lost the team. We’ll see next week in DHB sits or starts.
And Seymour, personal foul against the pats was like tellin them to fck off for trading him and the personal foul Oakland got flagged with was like he was fck you too to Oakland. That is fcked up for sure.
Fcking pathetic game yesterday.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I don’t mind Hue throwing the ball yesterday. He anticipated that NE would come out and load up against the run early on and they did. Passing attack was very effective, aside from the two picks.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
We did run the ball ..you didn’t see us getting stuffed?..that ” cute stuff” made.jacoby break for 50 .
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RRS,
Hue is 4 games into his coaching career and he’s 2-2.
Look at the mess Cable was as a HC!! The play calling, use of time outs, just looked defeated all the time, not Art Shell defeated but you know…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
We gotta move on. Bottom line, the defense was fired up for the Jets because of the whole Hot Dog incident and Rex Ryan always running his mouth. They wanted to prove that WE are the real BULLIES in the NFL.
Brady and the Tuck Rule is like ancient history to this team. Not to US, but for the current team.
Now I feel like Brien did after the Buffalo loss. We got the Texans coming up next in HOUSTON, and we couldn’t stop the run yesterday even WITH Big John Henderson.
We need to be talking about how we are gonna stop Arian Foster next Sunday in a hostile environment. Their offensive line is one of the top 3 in the league, and their defense attacks the QB.
That’s gotta be our focus now.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Past present and future who does mcclain remind you of?
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Randy Hanson
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I admit, I was high on drafting McClain last year, but he has proven me worng time and time again! He had a couple good games last year in the second half, but…they brought in Banta Cain, another pass rush LB…many have said to get Curry from Seattle. My question is….why is Seattle willing to trade him?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Dhb was balling and you’re Stupid.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
107.Chris in NY Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Boz > McClain
Although I must admit that I think the Boz is vastly underrated and had a forgettable NFL career due to injuries, not poor performance.
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I remember Boz’s best work was in Stone Cold!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Curry isn’t a middle linebacker .
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
102.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Just a thought, but with all that went wrong yesterday and there was a lot, the Raiders did play with a drive and passion only seen on rare occasions. They could have but didn’t quit. How many other teams have got burnt by Welker?
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True but we fine…trust that…would want more passion all game but we dont do it
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Brady and the Tuck Rule is like ancient history to this team. Not to US, but for the current team.
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yeah. We can focus on the ‘tangle’ rule now. The overturned PI
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
the guy is like 22 and still better than Kirk Morrison
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Seriously?
LOL @ LA!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
1072.2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
What would discerned head coaches that wanted to take control over stupid penalties do. They would not just keep telling them to stop making the same dumb penalties. What discerned head coaches would do is make some statememt that says, your actions keep this team from getting where we need go get, and make them take some time to think about it before playing again. Also, while they are thinking about it keep reminding them, they not being out their is hurting the team!!! Plan and simple enough should be enough. Raiders, the most penalized team of the decade needs to stop!!!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
the o can put up points damn near at will…to go in on the O is sensless…
Go in on the DCO and the D….
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Curry is a guy who I thought was a slam dunk pick in the draft. Don’t know enough about Seattle to know why it hasn’t worked out but he looked like an absolute beast in college.
I wouldn’t mind making a move for him. Would a conditional 2nd/3rd round draft pick in 2013 be enough to get it done?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Bif Fan Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
And Seymour, personal foul against the pats was like tellin them to fck off for trading him and the personal foul Oakland got flagged with was like he was fck you too to Oakland. That is fcked up for sure.
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I couldnt believe what a jackass Seymore looked like on that play yesterday. He wasn’t even at full speed, looked like a complete ass.
Boneheaded move to say the least, and then to disappear the rest of the game. WTF,,
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
The Raiders had their opportunities and didn’t capitalize on them. Campbell does something that he almost never does throwing a pick in the end zone. All of those mistakes aganst the Pats. They deserved to lose.
Time to get ready for a very good HOU team.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
For the record’ that shot they showed of Al Davis in his luxuary suite wasn’t Al,Davis..that old man was.moving and taking too fast.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
As a replacement for Groves that is.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
R Seymour after his annual meltdown failed to redeem himself with his play on the field.
CUT THIS WASHED UP PUNK ASAP!
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Mr Brown,
Seymour plays when he wants to, like Randy Moss & Albert Haynesworth – who didn’t know that?
Brady said that he made some sort of gentlemen’s agreement with Big Rich over the offseason that he’d take it easy on him, right? Well Dick sure lived up to that!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
the more i talk about it the more i beleive mcclain should be on suicide watch…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
123.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
the guy is like 22 and still better than Kirk Morrison
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Seriously?
LOL @ LA!
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Both suck
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
128.raidertay Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
The Raiders had their opportunities and didn’t capitalize on them. Campbell does something that he almost never does throwing a pick in the end zone. All of those mistakes aganst the Pats. They deserved to lose.
Time to get ready for a very good HOU team.
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Good post…this is what the mental midgets on this blog dont realize…JC rarely throws picks in the redzone….it happens so no need to just say this guy is nothing
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Defense needs an over haul. Starting with Bresnahan
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Said it a couple of weeks ago…
Funny how the offense is speeding along fine without Ford but the Defense looks like it could really use Mitchell.
Hopefully Mitchell and Huff are back for the texans
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Q: Past present and future who does mcclain remind you of?
A: Randy Hanson
mcclain is the suspect…suspected of impersonating a mlb
Rob Fredrickson > Rolando McClain
Elijah Alexander> Romac
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LOL!
you guys are cold
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
If we was to over haul our defense…who would you start with?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
109.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
if one thing makes me mad with Hue its his bs playcalling at times
Hue gets too cute. Meat and Potatoes…run the ball!
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ROG,
I keep waiting for this guy to prove me wrong.
every time it’s 1 step forward, 2 steps back
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Its his biggest strength and weakness….that’s deadly
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Thec you’ re the main one gettin on mcclain ….why did you predict a 43-7 win then?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
getting a new DCO means we start that cycle all over again… I am not against just a fact.
when are we going to get run stop personel on the dline?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
138.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
If we was to over haul our defense…who would you start with?
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both DTs that start
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Defense does play bad but look at every D in the league. Apart from the top ones like Ravens, which is showing a glimpse of 2000, everyone is struggling due to the lockout. Also we had a rookie on Welker for most of the game. Bottomline: Dont blame the players, too much, that miss tackle or get beaten in coverage cause a D# needs more time to bond than an offense. You can blame Chuck B though who seems to be having a good game then a bad game and really has me wondering
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
The defense looked like they needed a lot more than Mitchel, and besides didn’t he play yesterday and pickup an ignorant penalty.?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Ok, I was a bit late with the last post…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Thec you’ re the main one gettin on mcclain ….why did you predict a 43-7 win then?
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Sorry bruh, i never predicted anything on that game…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Wow. Where to start. That game was messed up on both sides of the ball. We got a long ways to go. When you play like you expect to win, you win. You also know how to win. We got a ways to go but could come together by mid season. Seymour played like he had a bone to pick with the pats and the raiders. And Moore was conspicously absent early on. And when Campbell aint got it, the D needs to step it up. WTF is up with the D?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
DHB ballin hahahahaha. guy is a hinderance to the team
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Thec you’ re the main one gettin on mcclain ….why did you predict a 43-7 win then?
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yeah shark, I am going to go in on mcclain every chance i get…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Defense needs an over haul. Starting with Bresnahan
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ArmChair GM,
Chuck B will be back in the UFL next season
ROMAC will join him there in 2013
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
It ALMOST looked like hue conceded this game. After the 1st JCamp pick. In the fourth quarter down by more than 2 scores, Fourth and two PUNT.
Mcfadden runs for 41 yards, Bush put in 2nd and 3rd quarters, Mcfadden not brought in until Fourth quarter garbage time…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Yeah but didn’t the Pats get away with an ignorant shove? Well, retalliation always gets called…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
shark, last 2 games i did not make a prediction….
check the ballistics Bruh…
Oh yeah and put mcclain as one of the weakest lb’s in the league…He does not fit the raider mold…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
LOL
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# Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
DHB ballin hahahahaha. guy is a hinderance to the team
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
We all are upset. We drank a bit too much Kool Aid ( understable, because we all saw that with a bit more discipline and a few breaks we can hang) Hopefully we just go through our 24 hour rule to b8tch and concentrate on the Texans)
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
There is NOT a replacement for McClain on this roster so get used to him.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
If we was to over haul our defense…who would you start with?
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Bresnahan. Then an elite RDE. Then a DT a MLB, and a Corner.
4 exceptionally good players on defense. Combination of draft and Free Agency should do the trick.
But Bresnahan is not that Dude either!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
150.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Defense needs an over haul. Starting with Bresnahan
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ArmChair GM,
Chuck B will be back in the UFL next season
ROMAC will join him there in 2013
So Rockstar, you’re giving im one more year?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Damn a prediction I guaran-damn-tee you Raiders win in houston for the first time ever against that franchise on the road! Bank on it
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Hue is a great play caller, exept when he is mandated to call plays that include DHB cuz you got guys that are better. And it messes up JC. Look what it did to him in the end zone.
And that pick did not cost us the game. The fcking defense is horrible and they couldn’t fend off an ant hill. They lost the game. Its all on them. And it started with the 1st f*cking series with the pats.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Well at least we waited for the fourth game to talk about next years draft!
That being said draft a DT. Weakside LB and Safety. Our ends are pretty good.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Thec07 is rarely ever wrong.
Dude should have been Denny Moore’s agent prior to the draft and got him drafted in the 2nd
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Losing the back up gaithier and Eugene have been bigger than we expected
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Yeah but didn’t the Pats get away with an ignorant shove? Well, retalliation always gets called…
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always, LOL.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
155.SharkCatcher Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
We all are upset. We drank a bit too much Kool Aid ( understable, because we all saw that with a bit more discipline and a few breaks we can hang) Hopefully we just go through our 24 hour rule to b8tch and concentrate on the Texans)
48 hours….then tuesday we move on to Texans
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
156.MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
There is NOT a replacement for McClain on this roster so get used to him.
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Ricky Brown.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Yeah eh picked ford and moore…he deserve his due
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Like I said.
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# Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
156.MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
There is NOT a replacement for McClain on this roster so get used to him.
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Ricky Brown.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Ricky FN Brown….lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
166.Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
156.MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
There is NOT a replacement for McClain on this roster so get used to him.
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Ricky Brown.
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Ok well go put inthe B@uce at MLB if thats the case…I can stink out there too
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
People get too pessimistic. Relax. The main problem is neither Offense nor Defence and no STs. The main problem is CONSISTENCY.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I was a bit miffed with Hue yesterday throwing the ball too much. 14 carries for McFadden? He is a bellcow back and needs at least 25 carries a game. I think the groin injury was way understated. – BCZ
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I’m shocked BCZ has the balls to stand up to Hue after exposing his mancrush a few weeks ago.
proud to be an American
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
No our ends arent good enough….do you ever see the LDE and RDE meet at the qb? I dont
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Al Davis needs to get down to the locker room and put his foot up chucky bs’ ass, the he needs to put his foot up seymours ass, then he needs to pimp hand the rest of the d unit, and then go back to chucky b and b1tch slap him a few times and don’t say a word. Then we’ll see what kind of D shows up at houston.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Raider On High Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Hue is a great play caller, exept when he is mandated to call plays that include DHB cuz you got guys that are better. And it messes up JC. Look what it did to him in the end zone.
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Wow, that is some crazy talk! You go girl!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Seymour may not have made any sacks, but Brady was getting off the turf on most of their pass plays.
The run game hurt us but we left way too many points on the field yesterday.
The D is what it is. We knew they weren’t going to be anything special, outside of maybe the front 4.
You can;t give away games, especially to teams like NE.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
159.Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Damn a prediction I guaran-damn-tee you Raiders win in houston for the first time ever against that franchise on the road! Bank on it
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It’s a good spot to catch them. They are without AJ, they just beat the Steelers and they looked good doing it. We might catch them riding a little high. We really need Huff to play, it’s his home coming too so a little extra juice will be pumpin thru him!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
171.marios Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
People get too pessimistic. Relax. The main problem is neither Offense nor Defence and no STs. The main problem is CONSISTENCY.
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Yeah i agree but damn we cant have same excuse every year right?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
177.Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
159.Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Damn a prediction I guaran-damn-tee you Raiders win in houston for the first time ever against that franchise on the road! Bank on it
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It’s a good spot to catch them. They are without AJ, they just beat the Steelers and they looked good doing it. We might catch them riding a little high. We really need Huff to play, it’s his home coming too so a little extra juice will be pumpin thru him!
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We got this….I like this team alot…a whole fkin lot….eventhough different time….1980 Raiders didnt get off to fast start did they?
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
170.Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
166.Carl Weathers Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
156.MistaBrown Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
There is NOT a replacement for McClain on this roster so get used to him.
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Ricky Brown.
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Ok well go put inthe B@uce at MLB if thats the case…I can stink out there too
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LMAO! I’ll play safety if huff can’t go!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
ricky brown…My man MBROWN on this blog can hadle the mlb spot better than ricky brown…
We need a killer at MLB…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
There is NOT a replacement for McClain on this roster so get used to him
So Rockstar, you’re giving im one more year?
Well at least we waited for the fourth game to talk about next years draft
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LOL – you guys are crazy
P.S. I miss Sam Williams
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
JC Seymour and the “tangle rule” lost the game but still think you should support DHB he dropped to easy balls but Schilens had a drop that if it were DHB we’d be killing him for it. That deep throw that was too little to late was a great sign that JC and DHB can connect on the deep ball as well great catch by DHB in double coverage and the guy continues to be tough to tackle
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
And one of the saddest thing happened at the Coliseum in 1980…the crowd cheered when Pastorini went down with an injury…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
183.inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
JC Seymour and the “tangle rule” lost the game but still think you should support DHB he dropped to easy balls but Schilens had a drop that if it were DHB we’d be killing him for it. That deep throw that was too little to late was a great sign that JC and DHB can connect on the deep ball as well great catch by DHB in double coverage and the guy continues to be tough to tackle
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DHB is not a football player
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
185.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
And one of the saddest thing happened at the Coliseum in 1980…the crowd cheered when Pastorini went down with an injury…
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When Tommy Kelly gets it I’ll cheer too
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
JC Seymour and the “tangle rule” lost the game but still think you should support DHB he dropped to easy balls but Schilens had a drop that if it were DHB we’d be killing him for it. That deep throw that was too little to late was a great sign that JC and DHB can connect on the deep ball as well great catch by DHB in double coverage and the guy continues to be tough to tackle
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Its not I dont support DHB, but we just got better playmakers out there. And JC ‘fixes’ on his primary recievers and DHB doesnt always seperate, thus the checkdowns. But when Moore and Hagan and Ford csan run the correct route, JC can get them the ball with confidence.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
McClain is not a true MLB in the mold of some of your great MLB’s or LB’s period…
He has never shown me that he is a fierce attacker of the ball. Kirk wasn’t as bad as this guy on runs up the gut…He is always out of place and a day late on plays… I don’t see any fire from him, in fact he is in over his head…
I was scouting the opponent, and yes the Texans D is good…Arian Foster is no joke either…
This will be a tough out however, I believe we can get it done…
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Thec,
I agree. We’ll beat Houston in spite of McCrohns!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
184.Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
Besides the Tuck Rule, there is that illegal forward pass in San Diego where the receiver caught the ball, went untouched then spiked the ball that Asomugha recovered…and illegal forward pass? Really? I think that would have ended the streak there…even if it was Russell at QB!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
on-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
– the tuck rule
– another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
– Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
– Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
– Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
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Conspiracy. The league is out for the Raiders. Always have been. That is why we are the most penalized. Tough to overcome, but we can do it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RaiderRockstar <—The only one on record to question the mcclain move…Good call…mcclain is not a killer, he is a couple of inches taller than kirk, thats it…
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I know hindsight it 20/20 but Earl Thomas sure sounds a whole lot better than Rolando McClain with the #8 pick..
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Pittsburgs OLine is absolutely horrible. Worst in the NFL by a LARGE margin. It is no surprise at all that the Texans destroyed Roethlisburger. They wont have that much success against us. We need some help on defense though. What we have now will not get us into the playoffs. Ill give the secondary a pass yesterday, no one can cover Welker, not to mention Huff and CJ were both out. It also can’t be understated how badly we missed Shaunnessy. He is our best DL imo.
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more Kool-Aid
yeah baby!
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
woulda shoulda coulda but we showed we can hang with the best and last week showed we can beat the best. Media jumps on the silver and black wagon when we’re winnin but f them we piss on you same with fans who are talking shi# now but when we’re in the playoffs gna be predicting “us” to win
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so true lot of haters on this board. Go find another team imo. So much up and down around here. On the media it is what it is witch is talking about vick, romo,brady, they spend 85% if there air time talking bout those things. Who cares screw them.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
McClain isnt a good MLB at all…..but I bet ya he makes some plays vs the pass and long ass arms causes an INT or three for us
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Solid o-line, playmaking WRs and TEs, consistent running game = time to find a franchise QB
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YA,
meet Terrelle Pryor!
trade Ronaldo McBust to Dungver where he belongs. I’ll take Tebow as #2 QB over that guy
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
We need more than just help on the D side of the ball.
Al Davis needs to go down there and beat some d-cord ass.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
McClain=Napoleon Harris
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
190.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
184.Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
Besides the Tuck Rule, there is that illegal forward pass in San Diego where the receiver caught the ball, went untouched then spiked the ball that Asomugha recovered…and illegal forward pass? Really? I think that would have ended the streak there…even if it was Russell at QB!
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Oh yeah! Nice one.
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
In the 09 & 10 draft, we supposedly took 2 guys that the NY Giants were targeting to take. DHB & McClain.
They ended up with Hakeem Nicks & Jason Pierre-Paul.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
McClain=Napoleon Harris
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Hey. At least Harris could run.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
McClain isnt a good MLB at all…..but I bet ya he makes some plays vs the pass and long ass arms causes an INT or three for us
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Agreed…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Any body see romo ’shake’ off jerry jones? somethin brewin there. dallas may not win another game. fck them anyway.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Blog firing on all cylynders at mcclain good, hope his folks tell him the blog is going in on hiz azz…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
So should we bring back Joseph at LB?
I know he was a fan favorite to many in here.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Ill give the secondary a pass yesterday, no one can cover Welker, not to mention Huff and CJ were both out.
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brady only threw for 226……
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Stu, how about that non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
I don’t want to compare Romca to Russell but ath the time of those drafted a QB and MLB was what this team really needed. Too bad there weren’t any available!
I’ll give him till the e nd of the year before I completely bail on him, besides I own his fvcking jersey!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Yep….Romac gets no slack from me….this schit will nto be tolerated
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Run defense was sad…pats have no special runner on the roster at all
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
…besides I own his fvcking jersey!
LOL…me too! Wait, I hope you’re talking about McClain’s jersey…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Stu Schweigert,
The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Napoleon Harris > Mclain
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
This defense was much better under Marshall
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BCZ with another slap at Hue Jackson?
DANG!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
213.Chris in NY Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Stu Schweigert,
The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.
I remember that one!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
^drafts*
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Teyo Johnson was a wiser pick than Mclain
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Old man Al, should be knocking on Channing Crowder’s door!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
The non-call when Hines Ward reached out and grabbed CJ37’s facemask and ripped his head down right in front of the official so he could run by and catch a TD (I think last year).
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
215.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
This defense was much better under Marshall
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BCZ with another slap at Hue Jackson?
DANG!
I do agree with that one, except wouldn’t it be a slap against Chuck B? Dam, doesn’t he sould like a rapper from Public Enemy?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
212.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
…besides I own his fvcking jersey!
LOL…me too! Wait, I hope you’re talking about McClain’s jersey…
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I was talking about McClain but I have both unfortunately. I’m taking Russell off and gettin Davis put on, it’s too nice a jersey to give to the poor!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Hey cockran, get word to rolando bosworth that the NATION is going in on hiz azz….
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Fk it!
Lets bring back Barton to replace McClain.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
So should we bring back Joseph at LB?
I know he was a fan favorite to many in here.
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good call, DMAC!
Frantz Joseph > Rolando McClain
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
215.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
This defense was much better under Marshall
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BCZ with another slap at Hue Jackson?
DANG!
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False…..both defenses suck….if you get a toy from top of trash and another one from bottom of trash…whats the difference? You still got em out the trash
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
russell, mcclian <— how do we get sucked into this?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
1. Campbell’s playing better than expected. Two fluke picks.
2. Picking up the flag on the interference call against Ford was HUGE in a game that was shaping up to be an offensive shootout.
3. The D is the reason OAK lost on Sunday and against Buffalo.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
218.JR77 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Teyo Johnson was a wiser pick than Mclain
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Courtney Anderson was too
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
215.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
This defense was much better under Marshall
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BCZ with another slap at Hue Jackson?
DANG!
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False…..both defenses suck….if you get a toy from top of trash and another one from bottom of trash…whats the difference? You still got em out the trash
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True, but the bottom may stink worse.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
False…..both defenses suck….if you get a toy from top of trash and another one from bottom of trash…whats the difference? You still got em out the trash
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Whats up with you and toys today? You have a couple of new Bzies hidding in your closet???
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Flagging MM34 yesterday for a head butt, but not flagging two Patriots players on that late 3Q drive when one of them basically took a swing at Schilens and another one shoved him on top of that about 3-4 seconds after the whistle with the ref two feet away.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
227.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
russell, mcclian <— how do we get sucked into this?
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Look to a certain skybox northwest in the coliseum…..ass DHB to that
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
208.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
hwnrdr Says:
Stu, how about that non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon?
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Yes. In the AFC title game and in the second quarter! Gannon was great at come-from-behind victories and would have made that game close. But that was one of the worst non-calls of all time. Our MVP-caliber QBs don’t get star treatment. Just the opposite, they get protected by refs less than the worst undrafted rookie on another team.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I gotta stop buying jerseys, Marcus(gift when I was a teen), Bo- year later the hip, Marinovich, Russell & now McClain.
The only one that didn’t hurt the players fortune is my Hostetler!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Well, F it! We can only wish and want, but we are stuck with (at least this year) with what we got. McClain, Seymour, DHB, whoever…oh and Al supposedly calling the shots!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Tom Brady vs a Green Secondary and Chuck Bresnahan is a gimme.
The Campbell interception was waay stupid, and let the air out.
Otherwise……..hey, no biggie.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
wouldn’t it be a slap against Chuck B?
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Hwnrdr,
Chuck B was recruited by Hue. They had Cincy ties
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
231.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
False…..both defenses suck….if you get a toy from top of trash and another one from bottom of trash…whats the difference? You still got em out the trash
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Whats up with you and toys today? You have a couple of new Bzies hidding in your closet???
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Naw mayne…monday aint dealin with them hoes…..on that note i’m hella mad at my patna on saturday hooking me up with these super bootsie ass bzies that werent to the standard but thought they were….i shook on them early and didnt get my saturday night run off if ya yaddamean
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Look to a certain skybox northwest in the coliseum…..add DHB to that
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I would young lion however, he has shown some promise…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Wes Welker is freakin Richochet Rabbit with cleats!
Why wasn’t DVD assigned to the guy? At some point,you have to try anyone that can keep up with him.
Something has to be done at the linebacker position or we aren’t gonna make the playoffs.Arm tackles will not bring anyone down in this league.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
237.KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Tom Brady vs a Green Secondary and Chuck Bresnahan is a gimme.
The Campbell interception was waay stupid, and let the air out.
Otherwise……..hey, no biggie.
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Is no Biggie Kell……we are fine….2-2 with a tough first four games….it will make us better come november-january….no need to give up OG
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
night run off if ya yaddamean
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I know what you mean…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
231.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
False…..both defenses suck….if you get a toy from top of trash and another one from bottom of trash…whats the difference? You still got em out the trash
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Whats up with you and toys today? You have a couple of new Bzies hidding in your closet???
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Naw mayne…monday aint dealin with them hoes…..on that note i’m hella mad at my patna on saturday hooking me up with these super bootsie ass bzies that werent to the standard but thought they were….i shook on them early and didnt get my saturday night run off if ya yaddamean
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No head game bruh????
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Why wasn’t DVD assigned to the guy? At some point,you have to try anyone that can keep up with him.
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Whoa….come on…DVD cant guard him
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
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Chris Johnson excessive celebration for praising his lord after a pick or fumble recovery returned for TD…. 08 I believe. Maybe 09.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Bresh is a kid in the toy store….ROFLMAO….
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
243.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
night run off if ya yaddamean
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I know what you mean…
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I aint even gone say it…but thats why bruh i dont if ya know what im gettin at
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
The Raiders don’t like to blitz, and they especially don’t like to blitz good QB’s.
Consequently, they get picked apart by them. Over and over and over and over and over and over…………
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Why is Porter on the team?
Dude hasn’t shown anything + he can’t tackle for schit
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
No head game bruh????
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Young Lion want to blast off on top shelf Bzies…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
247.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Bresh is a kid in the toy store….ROFLMAO….
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Yeah ole charlie does have that stupified look on his face as if he got caught mushin his face in Ice Cream when he wasnt suppose to
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
No head game bruh????
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Young Lion want to blast off on top shelf Bzies…
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LMAO
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
The Raiders don’t like to blitz, and they especially don’t like to blitz good QB’s.
Consequently, they get picked apart by them. Over and over and over and over and over and over…………
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that reminds of the play mcclain did blitz from the left side…Day late dollar short…
Watch PWILLIS blitz, he is an animal…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
244.DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
231.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
False…..both defenses suck….if you get a toy from top of trash and another one from bottom of trash…whats the difference? You still got em out the trash
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Whats up with you and toys today? You have a couple of new Bzies hidding in your closet???
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Naw mayne…monday aint dealin with them hoes…..on that note i’m hella mad at my patna on saturday hooking me up with these super bootsie ass bzies that werent to the standard but thought they were….i shook on them early and didnt get my saturday night run off if ya yaddamean
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No head game bruh????
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mayne it was that blk woman “I dont do that” schit and “i just met you” yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn had no time for it….its 2012 basically…bz better grow up
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Another BS call…
The Chris Johnson going to a knee to thank god penality…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
253.DMAC Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
No head game bruh????
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Young Lion want to blast off on top shelf Bzies…
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LMAO
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I mean aint gotta be a 10 feel me….but if you a savage ass 6 dont be thinkin you a notch
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Kirk Morrison & Thomas Howard…you are missed!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Sop we have:
- tuck rule
-non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon
-The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.
- Flagging MM34 yesterday for a head butt, but not flagging two Patriots players on that late 3Q drive when one of them basically took a swing at Schilens and another one shoved him on top of that about 3-4 seconds after the whistle with the ref two feet away.
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more
Again, how many of these involve unique, never-before-seen interpretations/implementations of the rules? Rediculous! So far so good (or bad considering the subject matter and how many brain anuerisms have been caused by these calls that defy logic).
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I mean aint gotta be a 10 feel me….but if you a savage ass 6 dont be thinkin you a notch
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TRUTH…need to get it when you can b1tch….
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
ravenaider Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Kirk Morrison & Thomas Howard…you are missed!
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Turd Sands you are missed.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
2-2 is disappointing.
I think most people expected us to go 2-0, then 0-2.
We blew one and we had one that’s a shouldacouldawoulda.
We have plenty of tough teams yet to play. One in less than a week.
Schedule gets a bit softer after that (can’t sleep on anyone in the NFL though, even 2-4 teams per year lost to a really bad Raider team).
No reason for the sky to be falling.
I’ll tell you exactly how this season will go:
We will continue to be disappointed with the D, run D in particular, however, the D will win us at least one game with a big play or two.
The offense will continue to light up the scoreboard and we’ll see Campbell return to efficient form.
We will win some shoot outs, steal a game, and probably blow a game we should have won.
8-8, 9-7. 7-9 or 10-6 possible depending on some bounces.
Playoffs a real possibility, likely with an extra playoff game in week 17.
SD gotta play the same people we do.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
From DutchRaider: A classic
The Chris Johnson going to a knee to thank god penality…
So we have:
- tuck rule
-non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon
-The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.
- Flagging MM34 yesterday for a head butt, but not flagging two Patriots players on that late 3Q drive when one of them basically took a swing at Schilens and another one shoved him on top of that about 3-4 seconds after the whistle with the ref two feet away.
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more
- The Chris Johnson going to a knee to thank god penality
Again, how many of these involve unique, never-before-seen interpretations/implementations of the rules? Rediculous! So far so good (or bad considering the subject matter and how many brain anuerisms have been caused by these calls that defy logic).
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
The Raiders don’t like to blitz, and they especially don’t like to blitz good QB’s.
Consequently, they get picked apart by them. Over and over and over and over and over and over…………
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Good thing we limited Brady to 226, with his only target the best WR in the league and put him on his @$$ repeatedly.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Without Pastorini breaking his leg against K.C., Plunkett would not have gotten his chance. They were just expressing another version of next 1 up.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
260.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I mean aint gotta be a 10 feel me….but if you a savage ass 6 dont be thinkin you a notch
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TRUTH…need to get it when you can b1tch….
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Hell yeah especially when you got me in the fold….then stupid bz hit me after game wanting to know if she can come over later this week….WTF?
I couldnt believe that…it was more shocking than JC’s int
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Looks like Andre Johnson will sit out next game. Should we stack the box for Foster, and see what Shaub can do?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
any way I gotta jet…I am going to rewatch the game tonite, will focuse strickly on rolando bosworth…
1 NATION…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Thec you shoulda seen this broads…..”yall aint ready for us, we went to Howard with real brothas, while yall went to school with white girls”
Amazing mayne
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Stu Schweigert was a better tackler than McClain
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@Method….
Whoa….come on…DVD cant guard him
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If DVD is the speediest of that 2ndary (when healthy),what else would we have to lose ? Just sayin’
On the bright side,we contained Gronkowski
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Wasn’t there a big play in a game a year or two ago that Cable tried to challege but was incorrectly told he couldn’t? I don’t recall what it was, but I definitely remember being PO’d about some sequence like that where they obviously had the call wrong and then said we couldn’t challenge it, even though we still had at least one challenge remaining.
Anyone remember that?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The only thing I’ll be looking for against the Texans to see if we’ve learnt is whether we are over pursuing on def and giving Schwab all day to throw on boot legs. Hopefully we won’t be and rather sticking to our assignments and stopping the run.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
From wiki:
Pastorini currently lives and works in Houston. His highly anticipated autobiography — Taking Flak: My life in the fast lane — is scheduled for release in November of 2011. He currently is launching a new line of food products. LMFAO. I think I’ll puke.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Rolando McBosworth.
Somebody record this. Going right up there with my “JaMarshmallow Truffle.”
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Hell yeah especially when you got me in the fold….then stupid bz hit me after game wanting to know if she can come over later this week….WTF?
I couldnt believe that…it was more shocking than JC’s int
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I tred to leave however, that B is flat out dumb, confused or both…2011 everyone over 18 gets down…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
270.JR77 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Stu Schweigert was a better tackler than McClain
No I wasn’t! Stuey can’t body slam anyone. At least Mclain can body slam guys if he happens gets a hold of them.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Wasn’t there a big play in a game a year or two ago that Cable tried to challege but was incorrectly told he couldn’t? I don’t recall what it was, but I definitely remember being PO’d about some sequence like that where they obviously had the call wrong and then said we couldn’t challenge it, even though we still had at least one challenge remaining.
Anyone remember that?
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Wasn’t that the first KC game?
Lot’s of terrible calls going both ways in that one. Slack-jawed redneck yokel ref did that one.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Thec you shoulda seen this broads…..”yall aint ready for us, we went to Howard with real brothas, while yall went to school with white girls”
Amazing mayne
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dumb stupid azz btch…. howrad <—boole nignogs…not real…opps did I say that????
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Guys on 95.1 ripping into Campbell. … say that if it wad Alex Smith. He would be getting roasted. . Calling Campbell the goat of the game..
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
boule
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
190.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
184.Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
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Can’t remember what year, Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Nicky Miller is gone. So who should be the next player to get the ax?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Calling Campbell the goat of the game..
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Ok, tell me if they get something wrong.
He had about 20 terrific plays and 2 really, really bad ones.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
276.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Hell yeah especially when you got me in the fold….then stupid bz hit me after game wanting to know if she can come over later this week….WTF?
I couldnt believe that…it was more shocking than JC’s int
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I tred to leave however, that B is flat out dumb, confused or both…2011 everyone over 18 gets down…
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Had attitudes the whole night and thought it was confidence they exuded lol….too funny and then one got mad at me cuz the place we was at I got chose and I was holding court….im like ” check game baby, ol asian girl checkin for my ism while you playing your sista girl games…no time for it…too old baby”
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
EVERTHIGN THAT IS THE Ddefense <—–GOAT
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
You have to spread Houston’s defense out much like Baltimore.
Use the pass to set up the run next week!
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
im like ” check game baby, ol asian girl checkin for my ism while you playing your sista girl games…no time for it…too old baby”
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too many “sista” bought off on the fembot movement..
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I had a glimmer of hope after the Jets game.Pregnant pause.Now after seeing Campbell exposed, and the suffering defense, I am fearful for the season.That interception before the half tattoed “LOSER” on Campbell forever.He will be cut at the end of the season.They will groom Pryor,who is at least as good as Cam Newton.We were out-coached, obviously.Should have just ran DMC and thrown to Moore.Reese being injured hurt us.We stunk up a winnable game against the worst Defense in the league??And they’re supposed to be afraid of OUR defense, that did nothing.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
281.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
boule
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black sorority hoes…if i was still on campus i woulda put in work, but not in real world bruh…..never…rather get me a sista who in her 30s lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
Can’t remember what year, Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!!
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That might make the top 5… This list is already mind boggling. This list makes guys like Jerry MacDonald look childish to downplay it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
black sorority hoes…if i was still on campus i woulda put in work, but not in real world bruh…..never…rather get me a sista who in her 30s lol
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I am puzzled why a biznitch would mention howard?
In all the bay there are no real nignogs????
GTF outta hear….
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
277.Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
270.JR77 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Stu Schweigert was a better tackler than McClain
No I wasn’t! Stuey can’t body slam anyone. At least Mclain can body slam guys if he happens gets a hold of them.
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At least you ran stride for stride with runners hoping they would go out of bounds before they reached the endzone…Romac just jogs around out there
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
souldogdave Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I had a glimmer of hope after the Jets game.Pregnant pause.Now after seeing Campbell exposed, and the suffering defense, I am fearful for the season.That interception before the half tattoed “LOSER” on Campbell forever.He will be cut at the end of the season.They will groom Pryor,who is at least as good as Cam Newton.We were out-coached, obviously.Should have just ran DMC and thrown to Moore.Reese being injured hurt us.We stunk up a winnable game against the worst Defense in the league??And they’re supposed to be afraid of OUR defense, that did nothing.
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I hear you, but the offense did pile up 500+ yards and the defense kept Brady to a reasonable 235 or so passing. Run D was shoddy, once again. And too many key mistakes.
All in all I still say Jerry’s headline is grossly inaccurate. We were the better team on that field, IMO. Just made too many big mistakes.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Should have just ran DMC and thrown to Moore
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Or JC just walks into the endzone in the 1st half and doesn’t throw to the 370 lb. guy in the wrong jersey in the 2nd and we’re good.
After 500+ yards, don’t know it would be any different had we tried to get ball to Moore instead of DHB. JC was trying to go after DMC on that 2nd pick, by the way.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Chris 294
Nailed it.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
288.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
im like ” check game baby, ol asian girl checkin for my ism while you playing your sista girl games…no time for it…too old baby”
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too many “sista” bought off on the fembot movement..
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wannabe diva schit is played since late 90s early 00s
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Should have just ran DMC and thrown to Moore
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Couldnt see it from the tube however, I bet DMO drew a heavy dose of the brackets…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
292.Thec07 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
black sorority hoes…if i was still on campus i woulda put in work, but not in real world bruh…..never…rather get me a sista who in her 30s lol
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I am puzzled why a biznitch would mention howard?
In all the bay there are no real nignogs????
GTF outta hear….
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HBCU grads always think they are more black than everyone else lol
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I have to go but will check back later to add some epic bad calls to the list if you guys think of any more.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
HBCU grads always think they are more black than everyone else lol
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ROFLMAO…No comment…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I gotta run its been fun…
1 NATION…
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I was at the game yesterday, and I am watching it on tv right now. I really felt like The Raiders could have won that game but their margin for error was slim. They couldn’t afford to make a lot of mistakes but they made them. The two brain cramp interceptions and the dumb penelties were just too much to overcome against a good team. On roughing penelty against Seymour on the first drive, I don’t think many people in the stadium heard the whistle, but why does Seymour come here to become a penelty machine. He is suppose to the the leader who shows the other players how a good team does things, and instead he leads the way in commiting undiciplened penelties. If The Raiders stop that opening drive and get the ball back in good field possetion and score again, it may have put a whole different complection on the game. I don’t know it that would have changed the outcome, but it sure didn’t help. We did move the ball up and down the field, and if not for all the mistakes we would have been right there with at least a chance to win it at the end. I am glad about the attitude of the team not to blame anyone but themselves, and if they come out and play like they are capable and don’t kill themselves with mistakes, they can come out of the game against Houston with a win.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Guys we gonna be fine…and we shall win the AFC West…I aint throwing in the towel…are you?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
303.raiderkoolaid Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I was at the game yesterday, and I am watching it on tv right now. I really felt like The Raiders could have won that game but their margin for error was slim. They couldn’t afford to make a lot of mistakes but they made them. The two brain cramp interceptions and the dumb penelties were just too much to overcome against a good team. On roughing penelty against Seymour on the first drive, I don’t think many people in the stadium heard the whistle, but why does Seymour come here to become a penelty machine. He is suppose to the the leader who shows the other players how a good team does things, and instead he leads the way in commiting undiciplened penelties. If The Raiders stop that opening drive and get the ball back in good field possetion and score again, it may have put a whole different complection on the game. I don’t know it that would have changed the outcome, but it sure didn’t help. We did move the ball up and down the field, and if not for all the mistakes we would have been right there with at least a chance to win it at the end. I am glad about the attitude of the team not to blame anyone but themselves, and if they come out and play like they are capable and don’t kill themselves with mistakes, they can come out of the game against Houston with a win.
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Amen mayne
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Yes Andre Jonson will be out for the TEXANS, but they still have many weapons, WR they have many. “Jones” Their tide ends are strong too..And Texans are playing good offense, and their D has stepped it up. another advantage they have, their at home. My question to the board is: How do you guy’s think our D will hold up against their Offense. Do we stand a chance with our D ? Your thoughts please!
Thanks
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
method, you paying up? Paypal?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Sanjose,
Texans’ O is as good as the Patriots offense. Top 5 QB, top 5 rushing attack, top TE.
I expect to give up about 30 points again.
And Texans have a top-10 defense this year. And have beat us the last two years. Uh oh.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
307.alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
method, you paying up? Paypal?
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Wont do PayPal buddy…..I dont fk with them cats…you can always roll up to coliseum or triple or nothing our best from the 7-9 nonsense you talking about
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Raids O-Tackles will need to be on the “A” train game next week.
Tex has a couple of dudes that can actually rush the edge.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Guys we gonna be fine…and we shall win the AFC West…I aint throwing in the towel…are you?
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HELL no.
2-2 may as well be 0-0. Keep pace with and then beat SD and we good.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
311.LA to TheBay Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Guys we gonna be fine…and we shall win the AFC West…I aint throwing in the towel…are you?
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HELL no.
2-2 may as well be 0-0. Keep pace with and then beat SD and we good.
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Seems like this blog has given up
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
I expect to give up about 30 points again.
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Then we gotta score 31.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
310.Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Raids O-Tackles will need to be on the “A” train game next week.
Tex has a couple of dudes that can actually rush the edge.
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you aint lying
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
I have NEVER seen a penalty called, the yardage marked off and the ball set, only to have a referee doughnut convention break out and the call reversed, the ball relocated etc. That was total bu11$#!t. I have been watching football for 40 years and that was totally unbelievable.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Chris, isn’t the better team the one that DOESN’T constantly make the big mistakes?
In what ways were we better than the Patriots?
They ran the ball better. Sustained more drives. Scored more. Made plays when they needed to. Were more physical on D. Coached better. Gave up fewer points. Won.
Did we have more talent on the field? Probably. Do we know how to get the most out of that talent? Never have, never will.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
313.LA to TheBay Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
I expect to give up about 30 points again.
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Then we gotta score 31.
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Under 30
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Welker is understating things when he says this is the best he’s ever played. What Welker is doing right now might be the best anyone has ever played the wide receiver position. Welker has 40 catches for 616 yards, putting him on pace to finish the season at 160 catches and 2,464 yards, which would shatter the current NFL records.
Another quote from profootballtalk.com. With the defense having three folks out, facing NE who was on the ball yesterday, maybe we did better than it seems.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
B,
We beat an AFC Title game contender and we’re back. We lose to an AFC Title game contender the next week because of mental mistakes and we’re done, sky is falling.
Again, NE did nothing special. They played smart and executed. We did not. But we can play with anyone.
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
J Campbell is not going to win games when he has to outshoot guys of Brady’s caliber. … he’s just not good enough!! I still don’t see al Davis resigning him if we don’t make the playoffs ..
why would he?? What will be different next year if al signs this Guy to a 3 yr extension? . … nothing… same average qb..
Who will probably be getting booed by a crowd of Raiders fans That just want to see the team win….. I really do think that Pryor will be better than Campbell in a very short time… IMO
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
315.JLofty Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
I have NEVER seen a penalty called, the yardage marked off and the ball set, only to have a referee doughnut convention break out and the call reversed, the ball relocated etc. That was total bu11$#!t. I have been watching football for 40 years and that was totally unbelievable.
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U surprised after 40 years JL?
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
B@uce, anyone throwing in the towel in week 4 is not an actual football fan nor are they a citizen of the Raider Nation. You can be mad about it, you can be bitter but to give up in the first qtr is unacceptable and will NOT be tolerated….
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
No I wasn’t surprised, upset would be more like it. I got a lecture from my old man to calm down and quit “scaring” my family.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
naw method, I live in Oregon, probably not trekking down to the coliseum this year. You can send it to my work.
Alex Chavez
713 Summit Avenue
Medford, OR 97501
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
No officiating call made during a Raider game would actually surprise me anymore. Might cause a brain embolism or a myocardial infarction but not surprise or shock…
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Ghost,
good post, I agree til the last sentence. No way Pryor ever becomes the passer that Campbell is, which is of course not saying much. Campbell was a 1st rounder because of arm strength, touch, and reads out of Auburn.
Pryor was a 3rd rounder because…he…can…run…fast.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:02 pm
I will never understand why journalists, reporters, and most media refuse to address the officiating issues against the Raiders. Dont know if it’s a typical example of “group think” or what, but it’s ridiculous. Can a logical person seriously believe there isn’t an issue when it continuously happens year after year, regardless of players, coaches and staff? I
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:04 pm
JLofty,
I think rather than “throw in the towel”, fans are understanding the realities of the team. Preseason hype has died down.
Our run D is TERRIBLE, again.
Our QB is average.
Our pass D is average.
The preseason showed us all this. We are a 7-9 team with this schedule.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:05 pm
319.LA to TheBay Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
B,
We beat an AFC Title game contender and we’re back. We lose to an AFC Title game contender the next week because of mental mistakes and we’re done, sky is falling.
Again, NE did nothing special. They played smart and executed. We did not. But we can play with anyone.
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We lost and deserve to lose….no issue…we come back and fight…never give up….
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
324.alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
naw method, I live in Oregon, probably not trekking down to the coliseum this year. You can send it to my work.
Alex Chavez
713 Summit Avenue
Medford, OR 97501
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Alright fair enough…Medford? Where the Singler brothers are from? I been through there before
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
306.Sanjoseraidersfan Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Yes Andre Jonson will be out for the TEXANS, but they still have many weapons, WR they have many. “Jones” Their tide ends are strong too..And Texans are playing good offense, and their D has stepped it up. another advantage they have, their at home. My question to the board is: How do you guy’s think our D will hold up against their Offense. Do we stand a chance with our D ? Your thoughts please!
Thanks
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WE stand a chance if:
A) We put 2 or 3 hats on Arian Foster’s injured leg and take him out of the game.
B) We have Huff, MM34, Shonasty and yes CJ37 back
C) Make Schaub squirt snot bubbles while on the ground
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
328.alex7 Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:04 pm
JLofty,
I think rather than “throw in the towel”, fans are understanding the realities of the team. Preseason hype has died down.
Our run D is TERRIBLE, again.
Our QB is average.
Our pass D is average.
The preseason showed us all this. We are a 7-9 team with this schedule.
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no way my friend….this is hardest part of schedule and we about to end it off with a win…..Raiders will be 6-2 going to play SD …watch
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
– the tuck rule
– another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
– Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
– Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
– Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
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Chris Johnson excessive celebration for praising his lord after a pick or fumble recovery returned for TD…. 08 I believe. Maybe 09.
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I dont know, a couple or so years ago in denver and jano kicks a game winner and denver called a time out, to late, but the refs gave it to them, jano misses and we go onto lose on OT! pure 100% bullschitt
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
New Englands offense is better than the Raiders.
Defense? with the three player we had out, probably better. Without them, it was kind of a push, and the offense was really on target.
Can’t wait to see what San Diego does against NE.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
335.qodrn Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
New Englands offense is better than the Raiders.
Defense? with the three player we had out, probably better. Without them, it was kind of a push, and the offense was really on target.
Can’t wait to see what San Diego does against NE.
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Beat them the same way they beat us
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
SD like we did messed up at crucial times and its too much against that team to do
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
I said in here all off season that Hue Jackson has the same problems to solve that other Coaches have had here in the past and how he deals with them will be how he is judged as a head coach.
Penalties.
Giving up big plays on 3rd down.
Giving up big running plays.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I don’t think picking up the l=flag in the red zone was the play that “shut down” the Raiders.
I think it was the final straw. Combined with the end zone pick I thin the team resigned themselves to the fact New England is a more efficient (RE: successful) team.
They just have to put this one in the rear view & head towards Houston. Perhaps they will have a let down.
More concerned with the ankle injuries of Bush & Reese.. .
BTW; Method, the Patsies beat the Dischargers in week two (24-17 Patsies).
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
very depressing day today, not for the fact we lost, but how we lost and the waxing that came with it.
Patriots still suck ass.
Niners suck big time ass.
Cowboys are done.
Niners still suck ass.
Niners like sucking ass.
Niners enjoy sucking ass.
Oakland 38
Houston 17
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
yeah Method, Singlers are big fish in small pond over here in Medford. Nice area though, 180 from growing up in L.A.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
I do agree, Method, that the Patsies presented nothing special. Just efficiency. Obviously that grinds against a young, petulent bunch of prespective bullies. . .
All they need to do is watch the film of last year’s game.
BTW; huge challenge. Is the Raiders OL up to the challenge of the revitalized (”Resurgent” is reserved for the Raiders) Houston defense. The taclkes will be challenged. Think Thanksgiving 2009 in Dallas. . . (Meet Wade Phillips, Houston DC). . .
Too early for a prediction. . .
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
You already have an answer.
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# qodrn Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
New Englands offense is better than the Raiders.
Defense? with the three player we had out, probably better. Without them, it was kind of a push, and the offense was really on target.
Can’t wait to see what San Diego does against NE.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20110918017
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Think we are getting a little too down after the loss. We knew we had to score a bunch of points to keep up with Brady and we didn’t because of two costly interceptions and the BS non-PI call…everybody has bad games…better to have a bad game against the Pats than against opponents we should definitely beat. We’re 2-2, tough game against Texans (likely no Andre Johnson on Sunday)…but then we have 7 games afterwards that are all very winnable (Cleveland, KC, Denver, SD, Chicago and Miami). And in case you haven’t noticed, the AFC seems pretty wide open this year with the Jets, Colts, SD and Pitt all looking pretty shaky.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Alex…
That’s my point!! Pryor will be a better qb because he can run… if Pryors passing ability is only close to what Campbell’s is…Pryor will be a lot better!! Campbell has a lot of opportunities to run for a big run but refuses to do it!! Why?? ….. he’s a decent runner!! …. I really do think Pryor is going to surprise a lot of people. .. the up side is much better than where we are with Campbell. .!! Lets face it.. the difference yesterday was the qb play.. patriots have a good one.. we have a very average one!! Does Campbell deserve a multimillion dollar contract extension? ? I dont think so!! Not if were no better than. 500 at season s end!!
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
At least the Raiders are not the Colts:
Between leverage, illegal batting and disconcerting signals, it sounds like the Colts are being charged with the same RICO statutes as John Gotti.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
This cheered me up today for some reason:
The Kansas City Chiefs worked overtime on November 7 in Oakland before emerging with a 23-20 loss. After the game, the Chiefs worked overtime in an effort to get out of town.
Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Transportation Safety Agencies detained the Chiefs’ buses by three hours after the game, based on a belief by a TSA agent that she saw a bag of white powder fall out of the jacket of a Chiefs player.
The powder was believed to be cocaine. After the player was questioned at length by authorities, it was determined to be a nutritional supplement.
TSA agents pre-screen players on visiting NFL teams at the stadium, so that they can be taken straight to their airline gate by bus.
Tafur also shoots down the notion that the Raiders had a role in the incident. “There were no Raider players or officials anywhere around that area,” Oakland deputy police chief Jeffrey Israel told Tafur. “The only people there were Chiefs and TSA agents.”
The fact that Tafur felt compelled to obtain a comment ruling out Raider involvement makes us wonder whether Tafur’s source specifically blamed the Raiders. It also makes us wonder whether someone from the Chiefs spoon-fed the story to Tafur, who reported the news from the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Disappointing but not devastating loss.
What was most disappointing ? The fact that the two supposed ‘leaders’ on offense and defense – JC and Seymour – let the team down.
I have praised JC for his overall play so far this season. He regressed back to JaJason yesterday. Hope we don’t see that part of his alter-ego again.
JC left too many points on the field yesterday. Sure, the interception to Chung was ABSURDLY bad and a game changer – but there were several other really poor decisions by JC yesterday too.
Opening drive, he missed a wide open DHB in the endzone and checked down to Boss instead. That was a 4 point swing. In a game where it became obvious we weren’t going to stop NE, every scoring opportunity had to be maximized. JC failed big time there.
Didn’t like the checkdown on 3rd and 10 after the penalty flag was picked up – seemed that JC wasn’t looking to the end zone or for a first down, even though he had time – but I’d have to see that again before I unfairly bash him for that play. Certainly the result wasn’t what was needed.
Couple of weeks ago, Jerry alluded to this being Seymour’s final season. I don’t buy that, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if it comes to pass. Seems that the years have caught up with him. Still has bursts of excellence, but doesn’t seem to be able to bring it consistently any longer. If he’s not going to be a dominant force, but is instead being counted upon as being a savvy veteran leader – that makes his bonehead penalty all the more egregious.
Poor display yesterday. On just about every front. 1/4 of the season gone and the defense has yet to show it can get off the field. EXTREMELY troubling. Poor return game – can’t get past the 15 on a KO return. Another wasted time-out on the opening drive.
Still, despite the loss and the glaring shortcomings – this team is still in the thick of things. If JC can avoid his JaJeckle alter-ego, the offense can carry us to enough victories to win the West and into the playoffs.
On to Houston for another UNDERDOG appearance. We’ve been the underdog in every game this year. Tough match-up, Texans can score and we haven’t shown the ability to stop anyone yet. But I think the Texan defense, while improved, is still overrated. And while I think Schaub’s a good QB, his arm strength and inability to throw sideline outs – doesn’t scare me.
Interesting to see if the defense can step it up. They cleaned our clocks in Oakland last year. Slow them down and it’ll be close. Mail it in, and the CHARACTER and HEART of the squad begins to come into question. Not to mention that a loss makes winning EVERY one of the next 3 favorable matchups imperative. No room for error.
If you’re going to make the playoffs, then you’ve got to beat the better teams in the AFC. Texans are probably the favorite to win the AFC South, and fit the bill.
Time to man up.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Nah, Alex. The Raiders won in 2009. JRuss one (of two) quality pro starts. Rainy day in Oaktown. Remember it well.
But, with Williams @ the one OLB & Connor Barwin rushing from the other edge, with Demeco Ryans & Brian Cushing @ the inside LB positions & an improves secondary this is going to be a monumental challenge.
However, I EXPECT the Raiders OL to acquaint themselves. Their OL (most NFL teams, as well)is far superior to the Steelers OL. . .
Hopefully DMAC regains his burst. He looked like he was coasting yesterday (protecting his leg). . .
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
The defense actually did better than expected. The inability to stop the run, well, isn’t that just Raider football in the post-Howie Long era?
The Raiders held NE to a field goal on NE’s drive after Campbell’s interception at their goal line, making the score 17-10 going into the half, instead of 21-10. Granted, it would be nice if the D outright stopped them and forced them to punt. But such a failure in my view isn’t nearly as spectacular as an INT right on the opponent’s goal line.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Mike Mitchell must really be that good at covering TE’s.. When he plays we dont get burned by TEs
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
The one thing that gets me is I saw the Bills-Patsies breakdown. Ridley got like 50 yards on 10 carries against the Bills.
He played @ a small high school. They only had 15 players on their squad. He was head & shoulders better than his teammates. So, he had the bullseye on his back @ all times. Trying to hurt him. strip the ball… he had to adapt to a violent way of running the ball. That style has served him well as he brought it with him all the way to Oaktown. BTW; he went into LSU, too. I just thought the Raiders would bring a bit more resolve to the game, so I didn’t say anything about Ridley.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
long story short, the defense made costly mistakes. Campbell made the fatal mistake.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
For real, Sully. Figure it would have been a tie @ the half (17-17). . .then the Raiders go from there.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:36 pm
thanks Kelly. NE is really feasting on the AFL aren’t they?
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders coach Hue Jackson: “We’re going to win the AFC West. We’re going to do everything we can to … go challenge for a Super Bowl.”
47 seconds ago
wow
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
don’t respond to sully he aint a raider fan mission in life is to argue, don’t let him get his wish
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
With our talent, all you can really expect from our defense is to give our offense a fighting chance when facing a team like New England. They did exactly that for 3 quarters. I’d say if NE had this thing in the bag by half time, we blame the defense. But late into the 3rd quarter, the Raiders still having a chance? No way.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
raiderdeek 344
good post.
Now that we got the hiccups out on the Buffalo and NE games, we can;t afford to be boneheaded anymore though.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-opening-pullled-after-singers-hitler-reference?module=HP11_headline_stack
Never cared for that big mouth hullaballoo any way. Bout time, a change was needed. His stupid comment fits his character. But we’re treading on freedom of speech grounds, so leave that for the politicos’ and the news people. This is Raider football and our D sucks ass……..Period. Sucks ass big time……Period
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Unfortunately, the Raiders have raised a generation of whining excuses making fans, as well.
Yep!
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
190.hwnrdr Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
184.Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.
In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
Help me out here with some more.
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Can’t remember what year, Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????
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Another couple I thought of
The time they called Randy Moss for offensive pass interference in one of his first couple Raider games
Last week against the Jets drumming up a Intentional grounding to negate the Roughing the Passer penalty called against the Jets
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
this is hardest part of schedule and we about to end it off with a win…..Raiders will be 6-2 going to play SD …watch
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I feel you bruh. But I disagree about this being the hardest part of the schedule.
Quarter 4 of the season, the last 4 games, we face Green Bay(The reigning champs), Detroit(Undefeated), and San Diego(leading the division).
That stretch of games rivals the one we just had.
Like we said earlier, if the Raiders make the playoffs with this schedule we will be DBZ Super Saiyans come the post season.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:44 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders coach Hue Jackson: “We’re going to win the AFC West. We’re going to do everything we can to … go challenge for a Super Bowl.”
47 seconds ago
wow
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Thats crazy. But good enough. Its also damage control for his comment yesterday. Knew it was coming. And Hue is crafty like a fox.
We will win the AFC west. Book it!
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I have to go but will check back later to add some epic bad calls to the list if you guys think of any more.
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I’ll keep it goin for you man. This is very interesting, and true.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Can’t remember what year, Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????
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In the rain at husky stadium in seattle. right on par for bogus calls. gruden went ballistic, held the game up for 10+ minutes, was clear across the field arguing the whole time. unbelievable. there is more story to it, and after the game, but it was again a blatant bs call.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
DMAC,
I think DHB was supposed to be crossing at the back of the endzone but he hit the brakes. Like I posted earlier, even if it was Tim Brown running that route, campbell had no business trying to get that ball to him with 3 pats right there.
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Sounds like what I saw but I didnt see which receiver it was. I dont think it was a “supposed to” route though. Nobody initially got open. Looking to find an opening and make a play, one of the receivers near the back corner started like he was going to cut accross the middle. He saw Chung then just stopped. He was well covered where he was at so it didnt make any sense to stop and stand there. Had he continued, Chung would have been there waiting for him but at least the receiver could have been there to cause an incompletion instead of an interception.
Regardless if the receiver had continued across the back of the end zone or not it was still a bad pass. How does Campbell not see Chung.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Speaking about ALL-TIME head scratching bad calls…
Has anyone mentioned the play in San Diego where the Bolt rcvr catches the ball, gets up WITHOUT being touched, and ROLLS the ball forward in celebration ?
I’m a little fuzzy on it, but I think the Raids recover what SHOULD have been a FUMBLE – but somehow it’s ruled an ILLEGAL FORWARD PASS – and most UNBELIEVABLY of all – the penalty is assessed from the spot of the illegal pass, and the Chargers are given a first down !!
Kind of like a QB passing the line of scrimmage – throwing a 40 yard completion – and then assessing the penalty for the illegal pass from the spot of the catch.
Maybe I’ve got the details wrong, but if not – that was one of the worst calls and rule implementation EVER witnessed.
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Penalties and Calls by Officials that have ONLY or RARELY applied to any other teams but somehow pop up during Raider Games:
- the tuck rule
- another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
- Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
- Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
- Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned
-that illegal forward pass in San Diego where the receiver caught the ball, went untouched then spiked the ball that Asomugha recovered…and illegal forward pass?
-The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.
-The non-call when Hines Ward reached out and grabbed CJ37’s facemask and ripped his head down right in front of the official so he could run by and catch a TD (I think last year).
-non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon?
-The Chris Johnson going to a knee to thank god penality…
-Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????
- And no True Silver & Black Blooded Raider can ever forget..The Immaculate Reception!
Over 40 years of schytty officiating as specifically pertains to the Raiders!
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
335.qodrn Says:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
New Englands offense is better than the Raiders.
Defense? with the three player we had out, probably better. Without them, it was kind of a push, and the offense was really on target.
Can’t wait to see what San Diego does against NE.
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Beat them the same way they beat us
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new england beat em 35 to 21 week 2
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
@RAIDERMAN99
EXCELLENT POST!!!!
I am not worrying about this Raider team crumbling after a big loss like in previous yrs under Cable or Kiffin.Coach Hue will ALWAYS have the troops ready to come out fighting!
As I have stated in a previous post SPREAD THE TEXANS Defense out-pass first to get themon their heels,then run!!! Foster is a beast,the defensive front must slow him down…put 7 in the box on him…texans are a RUN FIRST team with Foster in there.
This is a winnable game is Coach Hue,”lives on the edge just a bit” and use the weapons that he has…KEEP DMC on the field as much as possible to keep the other teams defense guessing!
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:06 pm
*if
October 3rd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
This just off of Twitter:
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Watching film, Heyward-Bey stopped coming down back line on Campbell’s 2nd-quarter interception to Chung. Campbell a “pro” not to mention it
This is exactly what I saw. Now we know who really screwed up that play. And, it wasn’t Soup.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Although I question some of Hue’s decisions to not go for it on 4th down, he probably didn’t want the Pats to run up the score considering the short field they would be given if we failed to convert. And considering the fact that the defense couldn’t stop them from 80 yards out, things wouldn’t have turned out too well if they’d had only 40-20 yards to go.
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Also, Seymour really screwed this game up. Those idiot penalties, completely inexcusable, completely changed the momentum. The D was actually looking pretty good and all pumped up and about to force a punt, and then that moron decides to commit those dumb penalties. The complexion of the game could have been much different without that. I expect much more from a “veteran, Pro Bowl, potential Hall of Famer” defense lineman. Pathetic.
October 4th, 2011 at 12:04 am
It’s a shame that the defense veterans keep getting penalties(Seymour) WTFlip were you thinking? Mental lapse JC? If the Bills beaten them, we should have too! Stop the mental mistakes on the defense and offense! Un call for mistakes! Tell Chuck to calm the defense and help each other out. Go Raiders!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:13 am
The main problem on O is a QB with a security Blanket! Time for Pryor To get some reps in practice so he can see how well he can operate the O with these weapons!Not saying at all that he is ready but the prospect of Campbell seeing him work and his abilities. Granted the call didn’t cause the lose but the two picks were awful!I felt the energy being drained from the D each time due to we should be scoring TD’s in the Red zone not FG’s!No more excuses and apathy from the QB position!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Motivation is what I’m trying to say that Campbell needs from the prospect of being Yanked!
October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
I’m Stanky AL I a real idiot, skanky dementia, just a plain nit-wit;
I played dhb, he my lil baby boy, hope I can mount him with my strap on toy;
to all the fans and the nation too, bring me your money and I’ll show ya your fools;
Moore’s the best there is, Hagan’s no slouch, my middle finger’s up, I can’t leave the couch…
a coach named Hue thinks he’s a bully, with a shiny bald head, I just call him tom dooley….
if he ever disobeys I’ll get in my groove, fracture that pate with my favorite pool cue,
Richard Seymore is as dumb as can be, Rolando McClain, no talent has he…..
Jason Campbell is a first class slug, Belichek hit us all in the mug….
I can do what I want because I am the man, I’ll crap in your face, and steal all that I can,
My name is stanky AL, I got your number, don’t come back here or I’ll send you into slumber….
Just Lose Baby !!! I out……
October 6th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
bottom line we sucked Sunday. hope it’s not a win, lose, win, lose , etc. season. #379 that is hilarious!
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