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Raiders seem to realize the better team won

Subbing for Steve Corkran today . . .

Near as I can tell, there is no NFL rule prohibiting the Raiders from converting a third-and-10 at the New England 15-yard line.

That was what the Raiders faced after officials picked up a pass interference flag on Kyle Arrington when the Patriots defensive back got his feet tangled with Jacoby Ford. Instead of first-and-goal at the 2, it was third-and-10 from the 15.

Since there seems to be a notion in some quarters of the Twittersphere that it was the call that changed the game, perhaps the Raiders should have just packed it in and walked off the field right then. On the next play, Jason Campbell completed a 7-yard pass to Michael Bush, and Sebastian Janikowski kicked a 26-yard field goal on fourth-and-3 from the 8.

Instead of 24-17, it was 24-13.

If the Raiders are so weak of mind that the loss of four points with 3:25 left in the third quarter caused them to have irreversable damage to their spirit and psyche, then you can forget the playoffs.

Fortunately, the Raiders weren’t all that eager to blame anyone but themselves today, much in the same way they did following the game Sunday.

Ford said he was surprised the flag was picked up, that he’d never seen it before, and that the call happened at a crucial point in the game. But he hardly seemed destroyed by it.

“He just picked it up, keep moving,” Ford said. “You just got to go for the next down. It never really got brought back up, at all. So it just kind of happened, and it was done.”

In Sunday’s postgame, defensive tackle Richard Seymour took responsibility for both personal fouls on New England’s first scoring drive, although he had trouble hearing with the Black Hole roar on his roughing the passer penalty.

As for Wes Welker’s 21-yard catch to the 1-yard line against Chimdi Chekwa, originally ruled out of bounds, the referees got it right. Welker got both feet in and made a catch of a perfect pass by Brady.

More Monday items:

– The week-to-week nature of the NFL makes panicking among the fan base a way of life. Take a step back and the Raiders lost a game to a better (on that day) team while missing four starters. They’ve got another tough game coming up in Houston and could conceivably be 2-3.

And that’s not the end of the world.

The next three opponents after the Texans are home games against Cleveland and Kansas City, then a bye week, then another home game against Denver.

The Raiders could be 5-3 heading into a Thursday night showdown in San Diego.

– The Raiders actually kept Brady from spreading the ball around as much as usual, with Welker catching nine passes and nobody else catching more than two.

“He’s real good at running his routes and he and Brady seem like they’re on the same page, got a lot of ESP going on,’’ cornerback Stanford Routt said. “Right now they’re the best quarterback-receiver combo in the game.’’

Routt said New England simply executed their offense better than the Raiders did on defense.

“New England, they do a good job of executing, and if you don’t execute on defense, you’re not going to win,’’ cornerback Stanford Routt said. Whatever the coverage is, whatever the call is, you’ve got to play it to the best of your ability.’’

– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain said of the Patriots, “Obviously they’re a good team. You’ve got to give them credit. They played a great game so it’s a learning experience. We’ll watch the film, we’ll get better from it and try to fix some things before we get ready to play Houston.’’

Regarding the Raiders’ tackling, McClain said, “Not make any excuses fut I think for the most part we did all right tackling. We can always do better, we will do better. We’ll get better at every aspect of our defense. At the end of the day we still haven’t played our best football. I’ve got confidence in the guys around me and the coaching staff and we’ll get things fixed and we will be pretty good.’’

– Ron Parker, promoted from the practice squad to the 53-man roster after a week of practice, is a former Newberry College safety who is working at cornerback for the Raiders. He was active and played on special teams.

“It was fun, that’s what I was waiting on, my chance to go out there and compete with the guys,’’ Parker said. “I finally got my opportunity.’’

More to come after Hue Jackson press conference . . .

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  • DeuceDeuce

    Mike Mitchell must really be that good at covering TE’s.. When he plays we dont get burned by TEs

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    The one thing that gets me is I saw the Bills-Patsies breakdown. Ridley got like 50 yards on 10 carries against the Bills.

    He played @ a small high school. They only had 15 players on their squad. He was head & shoulders better than his teammates. So, he had the bullseye on his back @ all times. Trying to hurt him. strip the ball… he had to adapt to a violent way of running the ball. That style has served him well as he brought it with him all the way to Oaktown. BTW; he went into LSU, too. I just thought the Raiders would bring a bit more resolve to the game, so I didn’t say anything about Ridley.

  • Sullivan44

    long story short, the defense made costly mistakes. Campbell made the fatal mistake.

  • http://ibabuss.com antispy3

    For real, Sully. Figure it would have been a tie @ the half (17-17). . .then the Raiders go from there.

  • qodrn

    thanks Kelly. NE is really feasting on the AFL aren’t they?

  • inonewordraider

    CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
    #Raiders coach Hue Jackson: “We’re going to win the AFC West. We’re going to do everything we can to … go challenge for a Super Bowl.”
    47 seconds ago

    wow

  • inonewordraider

    don’t respond to sully he aint a raider fan mission in life is to argue, don’t let him get his wish

  • Sullivan44

    With our talent, all you can really expect from our defense is to give our offense a fighting chance when facing a team like New England. They did exactly that for 3 quarters. I’d say if NE had this thing in the bag by half time, we blame the defense. But late into the 3rd quarter, the Raiders still having a chance? No way.

  • LA to TheBay

    raiderdeek 344

    good post.

    Now that we got the hiccups out on the Buffalo and NE games, we can;t afford to be boneheaded anymore though.

  • http://bugs_bunny [BREAKING RAIDER BLOG UP TO THE MINUTE AND ALWAYS RIGHT ON AND CORRECT NEWS]

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-opening-pullled-after-singers-hitler-reference?module=HP11_headline_stack

    Never cared for that big mouth hullaballoo any way. Bout time, a change was needed. His stupid comment fits his character. But we’re treading on freedom of speech grounds, so leave that for the politicos’ and the news people. This is Raider football and our D sucks ass……..Period. Sucks ass big time……Period

  • John Tweedy

    KoolKell Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Unfortunately, the Raiders have raised a generation of whining excuses making fans, as well.

    Yep!

  • MakeItRain

    190.hwnrdr Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    184.Stuart Schweigert Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    In direct protest to Jerry’s condescending lecture about how we need to get over horrible calls, I challenge the people of this board to come up with their top 10 calls that have been made against the Raiders that never get called against other teams. These are above and beyond the usual phantom holding and PI calls against us, and the holding and PI non-calls that don’t get called when our players are being manhandled.

    In no particular order, off the top of my head there is
    - the tuck rule
    - another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.
    - Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.
    - Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.
    - Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned

    Help me out here with some more.

    ************************************************

    Can’t remember what year, Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????

    ////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    Another couple I thought of

    The time they called Randy Moss for offensive pass interference in one of his first couple Raider games

    Last week against the Jets drumming up a Intentional grounding to negate the Roughing the Passer penalty called against the Jets

  • ArmChair GM

    # Method To My Madness Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    this is hardest part of schedule and we about to end it off with a win…..Raiders will be 6-2 going to play SD …watch
    _______________________________________________________

    I feel you bruh. But I disagree about this being the hardest part of the schedule.

    Quarter 4 of the season, the last 4 games, we face Green Bay(The reigning champs), Detroit(Undefeated), and San Diego(leading the division).

    That stretch of games rivals the one we just had.

    Like we said earlier, if the Raiders make the playoffs with this schedule we will be DBZ Super Saiyans come the post season.

  • http://bugs_bunny [BREAKING RAIDER BLOG UP TO THE MINUTE AND ALWAYS RIGHT ON AND CORRECT NEWS]

    inonewordraider Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
    CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
    #Raiders coach Hue Jackson: “We’re going to win the AFC West. We’re going to do everything we can to … go challenge for a Super Bowl.”
    47 seconds ago

    wow
    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    Thats crazy. But good enough. Its also damage control for his comment yesterday. Knew it was coming. And Hue is crafty like a fox.

    We will win the AFC west. Book it!

  • ArmChair GM

    Stuart Schweigert Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    I have to go but will check back later to add some epic bad calls to the list if you guys think of any more.
    _________________________________________________________

    I’ll keep it goin for you man. This is very interesting, and true.

  • Raider On High

    Can’t remember what year, Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????
    ————————————————–

    In the rain at husky stadium in seattle. right on par for bogus calls. gruden went ballistic, held the game up for 10+ minutes, was clear across the field arguing the whole time. unbelievable. there is more story to it, and after the game, but it was again a blatant bs call.

  • uglyorc

    DMAC,

    I think DHB was supposed to be crossing at the back of the endzone but he hit the brakes. Like I posted earlier, even if it was Tim Brown running that route, campbell had no business trying to get that ball to him with 3 pats right there.
    ——————-

    Sounds like what I saw but I didnt see which receiver it was. I dont think it was a “supposed to” route though. Nobody initially got open. Looking to find an opening and make a play, one of the receivers near the back corner started like he was going to cut accross the middle. He saw Chung then just stopped. He was well covered where he was at so it didnt make any sense to stop and stand there. Had he continued, Chung would have been there waiting for him but at least the receiver could have been there to cause an incompletion instead of an interception.

    Regardless if the receiver had continued across the back of the end zone or not it was still a bad pass. How does Campbell not see Chung.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Speaking about ALL-TIME head scratching bad calls…

    Has anyone mentioned the play in San Diego where the Bolt rcvr catches the ball, gets up WITHOUT being touched, and ROLLS the ball forward in celebration ?

    I’m a little fuzzy on it, but I think the Raids recover what SHOULD have been a FUMBLE – but somehow it’s ruled an ILLEGAL FORWARD PASS – and most UNBELIEVABLY of all – the penalty is assessed from the spot of the illegal pass, and the Chargers are given a first down !!

    Kind of like a QB passing the line of scrimmage – throwing a 40 yard completion – and then assessing the penalty for the illegal pass from the spot of the catch.

    Maybe I’ve got the details wrong, but if not – that was one of the worst calls and rule implementation EVER witnessed.

  • ArmChair GM

    Penalties and Calls by Officials that have ONLY or RARELY applied to any other teams but somehow pop up during Raider Games:

    - the tuck rule

    - another official running over to pick up flag in obvious PI that was already called.

    - Not reviewing a TD call as they are supposed to and then penalizing Hujax for throwing a challenge flag in exasperation.

    - Penalizing our player (forget who it was) for slowing down before entering the end zone, when other teams have guys doing flips and running horizontal before entering and not getting penalized.

    - Murphy’s first TD career TD catch overturned

    -that illegal forward pass in San Diego where the receiver caught the ball, went untouched then spiked the ball that Asomugha recovered…and illegal forward pass?

    -The taunting penalty called on Randy Moss a few years ago in an opening game when he caught a pass, went out of bounds and gently flipped the ball out of his hands and the punter or whoever was standing there caught it.

    -The non-call when Hines Ward reached out and grabbed CJ37’s facemask and ripped his head down right in front of the official so he could run by and catch a TD (I think last year).

    -non roughing the passer call when Goose belly flopped on Gannon?

    -The Chris Johnson going to a knee to thank god penality…

    -Shaun Alexander stripped on his way to a TD when a Raider(SS?) fell on the ball at the 2 and slid into the endzone where he was downed by Alexander. Result of the play, Seahawks safety and possession!! WTF???????????????

    - And no True Silver & Black Blooded Raider can ever forget..The Immaculate Reception!

    Over 40 years of schytty officiating as specifically pertains to the Raiders!

  • inonewordraider

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    335.qodrn Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    New Englands offense is better than the Raiders.

    Defense? with the three player we had out, probably better. Without them, it was kind of a push, and the offense was really on target.

    Can’t wait to see what San Diego does against NE.

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    Beat them the same way they beat us

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    new england beat em 35 to 21 week 2

  • ravenaider

    @RAIDERMAN99

    EXCELLENT POST!!!!

    I am not worrying about this Raider team crumbling after a big loss like in previous yrs under Cable or Kiffin.Coach Hue will ALWAYS have the troops ready to come out fighting!

    As I have stated in a previous post SPREAD THE TEXANS Defense out-pass first to get themon their heels,then run!!! Foster is a beast,the defensive front must slow him down…put 7 in the box on him…texans are a RUN FIRST team with Foster in there.

    This is a winnable game is Coach Hue,”lives on the edge just a bit” and use the weapons that he has…KEEP DMC on the field as much as possible to keep the other teams defense guessing!

  • ravenaider

    *if

  • JB

    This just off of Twitter:

    VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    Watching film, Heyward-Bey stopped coming down back line on Campbell’s 2nd-quarter interception to Chung. Campbell a “pro” not to mention it

    This is exactly what I saw. Now we know who really screwed up that play. And, it wasn’t Soup.

  • ChrisinNC

    Although I question some of Hue’s decisions to not go for it on 4th down, he probably didn’t want the Pats to run up the score considering the short field they would be given if we failed to convert. And considering the fact that the defense couldn’t stop them from 80 yards out, things wouldn’t have turned out too well if they’d had only 40-20 yards to go.

  • ChrisinNC

    Also, Seymour really screwed this game up. Those idiot penalties, completely inexcusable, completely changed the momentum. The D was actually looking pretty good and all pumped up and about to force a punt, and then that moron decides to commit those dumb penalties. The complexion of the game could have been much different without that. I expect much more from a “veteran, Pro Bowl, potential Hall of Famer” defense lineman. Pathetic.

  • dcraiderfan

    It’s a shame that the defense veterans keep getting penalties(Seymour) WTFlip were you thinking? Mental lapse JC? If the Bills beaten them, we should have too! Stop the mental mistakes on the defense and offense! Un call for mistakes! Tell Chuck to calm the defense and help each other out. Go Raiders!

  • raiderlization

    The main problem on O is a QB with a security Blanket! Time for Pryor To get some reps in practice so he can see how well he can operate the O with these weapons!Not saying at all that he is ready but the prospect of Campbell seeing him work and his abilities. Granted the call didn’t cause the lose but the two picks were awful!I felt the energy being drained from the D each time due to we should be scoring TD’s in the Red zone not FG’s!No more excuses and apathy from the QB position!

  • raiderlization

    Motivation is what I’m trying to say that Campbell needs from the prospect of being Yanked!

  • al d. davis

    I’m Stanky AL I a real idiot, skanky dementia, just a plain nit-wit;

    I played dhb, he my lil baby boy, hope I can mount him with my strap on toy;

    to all the fans and the nation too, bring me your money and I’ll show ya your fools;

    Moore’s the best there is, Hagan’s no slouch, my middle finger’s up, I can’t leave the couch…

    a coach named Hue thinks he’s a bully, with a shiny bald head, I just call him tom dooley….

    if he ever disobeys I’ll get in my groove, fracture that pate with my favorite pool cue,

    Richard Seymore is as dumb as can be, Rolando McClain, no talent has he…..

    Jason Campbell is a first class slug, Belichek hit us all in the mug….

    I can do what I want because I am the man, I’ll crap in your face, and steal all that I can,

    My name is stanky AL, I got your number, don’t come back here or I’ll send you into slumber….

    Just Lose Baby !!! I out……

  • TheToozFan55

    bottom line we sucked Sunday. hope it’s not a win, lose, win, lose , etc. season. #379 that is hilarious!

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