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Pryce not right for Raiders adding defensive lineman

By Steve Corkran
Friday, October 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders met with veteran defensive lineman Trevor Pryce on Thursday. They apparently came away feeling as if he doesn’t have much to offer them in the way of run-stopping ability because he is not on the practice field this morning.
Pryce, 36, last played in 2010, when he wrapped up his 14th season with the New York Jets. He flashed at times for the Jets but he is, after all, 36 and the product of many head-to-head battles over the years.
Raiders defensive end Matt Shaughnessy is not at practice, either. That portends the Raiders going with more of Jarvis Moss and Trevor Scott, unless defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan opts to move Richard Seymour from tackle to end and throws Big John Henderson in the middle.
Coach Hue Jackson didn’t mention anything about Pryce on Thursday. He will be asked about the matter in a couple of hours.

Cornerback Chris Johnson (hamstring), fullback Marcel Reece (ankle) and tight end Richard Gordon (hand) also aren’t at practice today.
Given coach Hue Jackson’s comment Thursday about a tendency to shy away from using players in games who don’t practice that week, it’s unlikely that any of those three will play Sunday against the Houston Texans.
Rookie DeMarcus Van Dyke and Joe Porter likely will get added playing time Sunday if Johnson and Chimdi Chekwa can’t play.
Chekwa was riding a stationary bike during the early part of practice. He had his right calf and hamstring wrapped while doing so. He said Thursday that he suffered a setback while attempting to practice the day before.
Jackson is mulling over several options at fullback in the likelihood that Reece and Gordon can’t play.
For now, the likely candidates to fill in are veteran running back Rock Cartwright and practice squad fullback Manase Tonga.
The Raiders would have to cut a player to make room for Tonga on the 53-man roster if that’s the route they decide to take.
Tonga has not played in a regular-season game during his two years with the Raiders. He said he is eager to make his debut.

Rookie quarterback Terrelle Pryor is working out by himself today in what should be his final practice away from his teammates.
His five-game suspension ends Sunday. He is eligible to rejoin his teammates at practice and receive coaching from Jackson and his staff Monday.
The Raiders might receive a brief roster exemption for Pryor, given he hasn’t practiced all season. However, before long the Raiders will have to cut a player to make room for Pryor on the 53-man roster.

Linebacker Ricky Brown (concussion) also is not practicing. He, too, isn’t expected to play Sunday.
Wide receiver Louis Murphy appears to be making solid progress toward his 2011 debut. However, that might not come until Oct. 16, when the Raiders host the Cleveland Browns.
Jackson is concerned about Murphy returning too soon, when he needs time to get acclimated to the every-day grind of practice and rounding into football shape.

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211 Responses to “Pryce not right for Raiders adding defensive lineman”

  1. Silverandblack666 Says:

    #1

  2. RedneckRaider Says:

    ESPN Stats & Information says that Raiders running back Darren McFadden has had great success running to the left this season. He’s averaging a remarkable 8.2 yards per carry going that direction. It’s bad news for the Texans, because they’ve been susceptible to runs in that direction, allowing 6.35 yards a carry, the fourth-highest average in the NFL.

  3. J Hill Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Until we wake up and stop letting corporations outsource we will continue to have a sluggish economy.

    ——————————————————-

    It’s not that hard, is it 666?

  4. Method To My Madness Says:

    For now, the likely candidates to fill in are veteran running back Rock Cartwright and practice squad fullback Manase Tonga.
    *****************************

    No to Rock….Yes to Tonga bruddah

  5. HairyBush Says:

    yo

  6. Demon Raider Says:

    Why don’t they bring Lito back if so many of the DBs are hurtin’? What other DT/DEs are free agents right now that we can sign to help against the run?

  7. Master Beeecham Says:

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    (paint this post on your nearest brick wall)

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    The old goat is part of the 1% who sit on their large rear ends all day blogging, collect an allowance check from their wives and their bowl cuts and claim to own land abroad. The lies and extreme laziness must END!

    Bring your tent, hacky sack and plenty of petchouli oil to Kane & Associates and get comfortable.

    We’re in this for the long haul people and will not rest until there is positive CHANGE! Or at least until the old goat stops posting lame links.

  8. Method To My Madness Says:

    2.RedneckRaider Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:59 am
    ESPN Stats & Information says that Raiders running back Darren McFadden has had great success running to the left this season. He’s averaging a remarkable 8.2 yards per carry going that direction. It’s bad news for the Texans, because they’ve been susceptible to runs in that direction, allowing 6.35 yards a carry, the fourth-highest average in the NFL.

    ***************************

    Great stuff…shot of bourbon for you my friend!

  9. LA to TheBay Says:

    Rock is a great veteran pick up who can have his professionalism rub off on the young dudes (like Greg Eliis a couple years back) and he is a special teams ACE.

    That being said, there is no way he should see 1 snap at FB ever.

  10. Method To My Madness Says:

    Come on elevate Tonga…I can stand to have some more Pac silanders on my team! They aint afraid of no one! Ngata, Polamalu and Rey Maualuga! come on Hue!

  11. LA to TheBay Says:

    Put me down for Tonga. Should Giordanno have his playbook ready to turn in?

  12. Method To My Madness Says:

    Islanders

  13. Method To My Madness Says:

    LA…i know you think im crazy for that email…but thats the truth bruh…no bs

  14. RedneckRaider Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:10 am
    2.RedneckRaider Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:59 am
    ESPN Stats & Information says that Raiders running back Darren McFadden has had great success running to the left this season. He’s averaging a remarkable 8.2 yards per carry going that direction. It’s bad news for the Texans, because they’ve been susceptible to runs in that direction, allowing 6.35 yards a carry, the fourth-highest average in the NFL.

    ***************************

    Great stuff…shot of bourbon for you my friend!

    ***************************

    Cheers!

  15. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “It’s not that hard, is it 666?”

    One would think.

    Its kind of like the NFL draft…..the lesser teams get to draft first and the better teams draft last.

    Well big business was supposed to have large tax implications for growing too much. Thus helping the small business owner stay competitive and thus allowing middle class to prosper.

    But the government has allowed some companies to grow out of control and consume small business. Huge corporate tax breaks for your buddies on wall street from sycophantic politicians trying to buy a vote has blurred the lines of fair competition.

    Selfish greed and hidden political agendas are hurting the economy as much if not more than illegal immigration.

    You have life time politicians taking monies from large corporations squashing the small business owner. Let the Home Depot’s get bigger all the while the small local hardware stores are closing.

  16. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If we promote Tonga than Pryor, that’s two dudes getting axed.

    Maybe CJ to IR is an option.

  17. bcz24 Says:

    Payroll tax alone is enough to put a lot of small companies out of business.

  18. kidseven Says:

    I hope everyone stops asking Campbell about his interceptions. That last thing we need is to have him get more conservative.

  19. hwnrdr Says:

    So no Pryce…anyone else?

  20. Method To My Madness Says:

    gotta promote Tonga bruddah….brings a dimension you dont have…a FB!

  21. Demon Raider Says:

    Oakland needs to sign better DB depth and a better run-stuffing DL guy or 2.

  22. Method To My Madness Says:

    k7 is right

  23. Method To My Madness Says:

    21.Demon Raider Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:19 am
    Oakland needs to sign better DB depth and a better run-stuffing DL guy or 2.

    *********************

    Dont worry…Hendu prolly starting sunday….he didnt play vs texans last year….they are doomed

  24. Method To My Madness Says:

    Kell…come on you can post…dont be scared

  25. Demon Raider Says:

    I think Oakland should start considering to make trades for DL, DB, and LB help…. Hell, just do trade to help the entire defense, godammit.

  26. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdb1×2vQ2Z0

    Kell get to work…I need to look good this weekend….my block report needs updating

  27. Demon Raider Says:

    Why not sign Pat Williams? I know he is like 38, but he is a massive space eater like Henderson. Have them two in the middle with Seymour and Kelly on the ends…. Now that is a power formation.

  28. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Hi Demon

    see you in hell!

    PARTY!!!!!!!!!!

  29. Demon Raider Says:

    Ted Washington was useful for a bit when we signed him a long time ago.

  30. Method To My Madness Says:

    27.Demon Raider Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:23 am
    Why not sign Pat Williams? I know he is like 38, but he is a massive space eater like Henderson. Have them two in the middle with Seymour and Kelly on the ends…. Now that is a power formation.

    ***************************

    Seymour at LDE is a good idea……Kelly to the bench

  31. LA to TheBay Says:

    B,

    Nah, man you would know more about it than I would. Guys in his situation get caught up pretty easily but that was some serious sh;t.

    I don’t doubt at all NFL has had it in for Al through 4 decades now and 3 owners. Wouldn’t think it would have been taken to that degree though.

  32. Demon Raider Says:

    So you’d rather have Houston at RDE?

  33. Master Beeecham Says:

    We’re going to smoke you out, Krappy!

    You can’t hide behind that empty realtor desk for ever, you old goat.

    OCCUPY KANE & ASSOCIATES

  34. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anyone who says Reece is a good FB doesnt know schit about football. He cant block

    ***

    ROG,

    you know more about football than Davis & Jackson?

    not likely!

  35. MistaBrown Says:

    Exlain DHB starting and N Miller on the roster for his career.
    _______

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    anyone who says Reece is a good FB doesnt know schit about football. He cant block

    ***

    ROG,

    you know more about football than Davis & Jackson?

    not likely!

  36. Mj57 Says:

    Its not as simple as just signing some more players. To add a player we have to cut somebody. With the roster spot killer gone who is there to cut? Bringing up Tonga is the only move Hue can make considering someone else will have to be cut for pryor next week.

  37. RaiderRockstar Says:

    even Hue sees you wanna have a shot at stopping the run you better have Hendu starting!

    If ya wanna be honest….the dline should be RDE wimbley NT hendu UT seymour LDE houston

    ***

    ROG,

    if Tommy Kelly isn’t starting, you need to trade him. He’s making WAY too much money to be sitting on the bench.

    trade Kelly & McClain to Miami in exchange for Karlos Dansby!

    Also – you’ll notice John Henderson hasn’t started any games in 2011. Does that mean Hue Jackson didn’t care about stopping the run during the first quarter of the season? Because all of his press releases state otherwise

  38. morilla Says:

    Having Reece out hurts the team. He is another weapon and can make plays out of the backfield catching the ball. Tonga, ehhh not so much.

  39. Mj57 Says:

    Its funny it seems like all the Reece haters are out now that he’s hurt. How short a memory some people have. Reece is the most dynamic Fb in the league and he also was the lead blocker for the 2nd rank rushing attack last year.

  40. DeuceDeuce Says:

    If it means cutting Giordano, im all for Tonga getting promoted.

    But that just means Tonga will be cut and back on the PS to make room for Pryor next week.

  41. Raiderbuck Says:

    Who would have thought we needed help to stop the run against the Chetriots? Certainly not me.

  42. DeuceDeuce Says:

    That being said Tonga could not hold Reece’s jock when it comes to helping this team.

  43. r8dercain Says:

    R8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
    No matter what. Tongs is not a Davis guy.
    Reece is fool. Tongs is a true FB. But Davis don’t care. He feels responsible for reece transformation so he plays.
    Period
    jhill all pro

  44. Demon Raider Says:

    Lets trade Branch and a pick to get Aso back.

  45. Mj57 Says:

    They can’t cut Giordano because there is no guarantee Huff will make it through the game. If a Safety has to go it should be Boyd

  46. DeuceDeuce Says:

    What happened to the 5 man line with Henderson in the middle? That seemed like it worked well..

    Moss/Seymour/Henderson/Kelly/Houston

  47. r8dercain Says:

    An Reece is known as “The Match up Nitemare”

  48. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Mj57 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    They can’t cut Giordano because there is no guarantee Huff will make it through the game. If a Safety has to go it should be Boyd

    —-

    Have you watched any games this year? Boyd is head and shoulders above Giordano.

    Everyone gives Giordano a pass because he made a nice pick in the monday opener. Whatever. He has sucked majorly since that game ended.

  49. Demon Raider Says:

    Let’s give up Kelly and our next two first round picks for Ngata….

  50. daraider09 Says:

    I think raiders should have stuck with Thomas Howard at OLB. I think he was a scapegoat along with Morrison for the poor run defense. His quickness to the edges would be useful right about now, knowing how teams run at the edges of our front 7.

    He was even on the team up until last season but was relegated to special teams!

    I think a true linebacker at the WLB spot would really help instead of Wimbley and Groves. Dont get me wrong, I am actually a big fan of Wimbley, but only as a pass rusher. He is too big and stiff to defense side to side against edge runs. Groves is doing better this season but lets face it, all he really knows how to do is pass rush. That’s what he came into the league as; a pass rusher out of Auburn.

    If this continues, I would go after Thomas Davis in the offseason. He is a really good linebacker who plays for Carolina Panthers. He keeps getting hurt but he is a beats when he’s on the field. He’s like Thomas Howard but with more skill. Kinda like Jonathan Vilma, which is what we need.

    I know the focus right now is on McClain not getting it done in the middle, but teams are running at the edges of our defense. His lack of quickness is a liabilty, but if Mr Davis will continue to mandate our defensive philosophy then we need the right players to try to have a chance. We need OLBs with quickness and a motor to fly to the ball carrier. And we need a better QB in the middle of the defense. Lets let Rolando grow into the position. He is young after all. I hope he improves his quickness and strength. He seems soft and slow to me.

  51. Demon Raider Says:

    Thomas Davis has torn his ACL three seasons in a row…….

  52. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boyd doesn’t have any INT’s, and certainly hasn’t done anything of note either.

    Boyd and Giordano are equal garbage.

  53. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Thomas Davis has torn the same ACL 3 years in a row.

  54. Mj57 Says:

    Mj57 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    They can’t cut Giordano because there is no guarantee Huff will make it through the game. If a Safety has to go it should be Boyd

    —-

    Have you watched any games this year? Boyd is head and shoulders above Giordano.

    Everyone gives Giordano a pass because he made a nice pick in the monday opener. Whatever. He has sucked majorly since that game ended.

    ******

    Have you? Boyd has been just as suspect if not more. For example the bills game where Boyd gave up a walk in touchdown on Stevie Johnson. Boyd is a weaker version of MM and isn’t a FS where Giordano was playing.

  55. daraider09 Says:

    Thats why he’ll be gettable!

  56. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
    Boyd doesn’t have any INT’s, and certainly hasn’t done anything of note either.

    Boyd and Giordano are equal garbage.

    —-

    Boyd also hasnt gave up any big plays, or been too slow to get to a play, like Giordano has on every single big play.

  57. RaiderRetribution Says:

    tatupu knees must really be poopoo for him not to have been signed by now

  58. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Giordano cant tackle and that is something a sftey should be good at. He’s gone if tonga plays.

  59. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boyd also hasnt gave up any big plays

    *********************

    LMAO!!

  60. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Mj57 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Mj57 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    They can’t cut Giordano because there is no guarantee Huff will make it through the game. If a Safety has to go it should be Boyd

    —-

    Have you watched any games this year? Boyd is head and shoulders above Giordano.

    Everyone gives Giordano a pass because he made a nice pick in the monday opener. Whatever. He has sucked majorly since that game ended.

    ******

    Have you? Boyd has been just as suspect if not more. For example the bills game where Boyd gave up a walk in touchdown on Stevie Johnson. Boyd is a weaker version of MM and isn’t a FS where Giordano was playing
    —-

    Sorry I questioned your “fanhood” lol.

    If you are a Giordano supporter I really have no words for you.

  61. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders keep Mr. Jason Campbell uprigth w/o a sack and still lead the league in rushing (y/g) then the Raiders do have the best OLine in the NFL!

    At least one should be all-pro and at least 3 should be in the pro-bowl!

  62. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Boyd also hasnt gave up any big plays

    *********************

    LMAO!!

    —-

    Name them? And make sure these plays werent ZONE coverage. Ill wait.

  63. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Boyd and Giordano are equal garbage

    ***

    I don’t know. Matt Giordano was a stud in Week 1

    the first solid play that Boyd makes during a regular season game (against starters) will be his first – same with Tonga

    early favorites to get the axe when Pryor returns: Ausberry, Boyd, Parker

  64. Method To My Madness Says:

    42.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    That being said Tonga could not hold Reece’s jock when it comes to helping this team.

    **************************

    Dueces……….how would you figure that when Reece cant run block at all….what is the first thing a FB must do? Thanks for playing

  65. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    Raiders keep Mr. Jason Campbell uprigth w/o a sack and still lead the league in rushing (y/g) then the Raiders do have the best OLine in the NFL!

    At least one should be all-pro and at least 3 should be in the pro-bowl!

    —-

    None will get any accolades. Welcome to the Raiders boys

  66. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I’m tellin ya now, raiders are working a trade.

    We do not have a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick.

    Raiders could offer a player plus a 5th or 6th to move up into the 3rd or 4th round.

  67. Method To My Madness Says:

    did anyone watch the bills game? reece was awful and made no plays…..if he aint catching a pass what good is he to your team?

  68. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:57 am
    42.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    That being said Tonga could not hold Reece’s jock when it comes to helping this team.

    **************************

    Dueces……….how would you figure that when Reece cant run block at all….what is the first thing a FB must do? Thanks for playing

    —-

    How can you week in and week out say Reece cant run block? Numbers dont lie.

  69. Mj57 Says:

    Sorry I questioned your “fanhood” lol.

    If you are a Giordano supporter I really have no words for you.

    ******
    I’m not a supporter of either, but if one has to go it should be Boyd first… I would rather not have either on the field. Hopefully MM, Huff, and Branch can handle it the rest of the year

  70. RaiderRetribution Says:

    No one on offense will be traded, except the one that could get us a 1st round draft pick, although with Mr. Pryor being available….hmmmm!

  71. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Could Mr. PreJean be on the chopping block?

  72. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Rushing Yards

    Week 1 – 190

    Week 2 – 131

    Reece played these games..

  73. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Matt Giordano was good enough to start 6 games in the Colts terrible secondary in 4 years with Indy – despite Bob Sanders only being healthy for probably 3 games in those 4 seasons

    Having said that, I still think he’s WAY better than Jerome Boyd – who converted from LB like Stevie Brown

  74. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Mj57 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:59 am
    Sorry I questioned your “fanhood” lol.

    If you are a Giordano supporter I really have no words for you.

    ******
    I’m not a supporter of either, but if one has to go it should be Boyd first… I would rather not have either on the field. Hopefully MM, Huff, and Branch can handle it the rest of the year

    —-

    Your right neither should probably be playing much. But I see Boyd as having more to offer. Giordano is way too slow to work in this scheme. And doesnt have the craftiness to make up for it like say Darren Sharper does.

  75. bcz24 Says:

    Could Mr. PreJean be on the chopping block?
    *******************
    No way. What if JC got hurt? Would you expect a guy that has literally practiced with this team 5 times to go in and take over?

  76. RaiderRetribution Says:

    With Cam Newton’s success as a rookie, the writings on the wall for Mr. Pryor to start next season, if the Raiders do not make the playoffs.

    although I do think the Raiders would keep either Mr. Campbell, Mr. Boller, or both if the contracts were to their liking.

  77. RaiderRetribution Says:

    just trying to start sumtin sumtin, I’m getting just as ancey as I was for our season opener against Denver on MNF.

  78. Method To My Madness Says:

    68.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:57 am
    42.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    That being said Tonga could not hold Reece’s jock when it comes to helping this team.

    **************************

    Dueces……….how would you figure that when Reece cant run block at all….what is the first thing a FB must do? Thanks for playing

    —-

    How can you week in and week out say Reece cant run block? Numbers dont lie.

    *************************

    Actually…when we make all of our big runs its out the one back set….sorry but when i hear this argument for the the damn number it makes me wanna puke cuz you guys aint watching the games

    We ran for 234 yards vs jets…without that reece guy sucking as a blocker

  79. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    Matt Giordano was good enough to start 6 games in the Colts terrible secondary in 4 years with Indy – despite Bob Sanders only being healthy for probably 3 games in those 4 seasons

    Having said that, I still think he’s WAY better than Jerome Boyd – who converted from LB like Stevie Brown

    —-

    Being a LB at Oregon isnt saying much..

    He also ran a 4.3 as a “LB” in college

  80. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Look below.

    30 second mark. Not sure if Boyd is actually jogging or walking on the play.

    1 minute mark. Boyd ROASTED for a TD.

    After this week, his PT has been massively reduced

    http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Raiders-vs-Bills-Highlights/1298053c-90c1-4c34-afbb-5d1c98f958b8

  81. Method To My Madness Says:

    72.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Rushing Yards

    Week 1 – 190

    Week 2 – 131

    Reece played these games..

    ******************

    Our best plays came out of one back set….you dont watch the game…you rely on espn for your knowledge…quite sad

  82. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Neil B & England Raider..

    how did/does it go for you guys tonight??

    after 21 minutes we were ahead 0-4 and are sure to be the best placed 2nd’er so we are sure to go to the cup!

    Tuesday we play Portugal and with a win, we win group!

    what about your guys?

  83. bcz24 Says:

    I don’t believe Pryor will ever be an NFL calibur starting QB.

  84. Method To My Madness Says:

    Start Derek Hagan…you know the slow guy who ran a 4.45 at the NFL combine lol

  85. Method To My Madness Says:

    83.bcz24 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    I don’t believe Pryor will ever be an NFL calibur starting QB.

    *********************

    Yeah he aint Cam

  86. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    68.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:57 am
    42.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    That being said Tonga could not hold Reece’s jock when it comes to helping this team.

    **************************

    Dueces……….how would you figure that when Reece cant run block at all….what is the first thing a FB must do? Thanks for playing

    —-

    How can you week in and week out say Reece cant run block? Numbers dont lie.

    *************************

    Actually…when we make all of our big runs its out the one back set….sorry but when i hear this argument for the the damn number it makes me wanna puke cuz you guys aint watching the games

    We ran for 234 yards vs jets…without that reece guy sucking as a blocker

    —-

    If thats the case man, your proving the point that we DONT need Tonga.

    You cant deny that Reece is a huge weapon in the passing game. So saying that a FB isnt the reason we have been running at will on everyone proves that Tonga is pointless then.

  87. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    72.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Rushing Yards

    Week 1 – 190

    Week 2 – 131

    Reece played these games..

    ******************

    Our best plays came out of one back set….you dont watch the game…you rely on espn for your knowledge…quite sad

    —-

    Actually havent watched ESPN in a few years.

  88. bcz24 Says:

    a lead blocking fullback is really important in short yardage situations primarily.

  89. DeuceDeuce Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
    a lead blocking fullback is really important in short yardage situations primarily.

    —-

    You mean like the goal line ones where we had Gordon line up at FB?

    Tonga doesnt do enough to warrant a roster spot outside of filling in for injured players like this week.

  90. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Just because your not willing to see someone else’s point of view or accept that you might be wrong doesnt mean your a ‘genius’. Or that you ‘punk’ people on a blog. lol. Come on.

  91. Mj57 Says:

    Look we WOULD NOT have been the a good running team with out a prolific blocking Fb. Reece is a good blocker, he is a threat out of the backfield and can line up at Wr. If there is another Fb in the NFL that can do this find him and tell me… Don’t worry I’ll wait

  92. RaiderRockstar Says:

    With Cam Newton’s success as a rookie, the writings on the wall for Mr. Pryor to start next season, if the Raiders do not make the playoffs.

    although I do think the Raiders would keep either Mr. Campbell, Mr. Boller, or both if the contracts were to their liking.

    ***

    Retribution,

    if Jason Campbell re-signs, he’ll probably have to “compete” for the starting job with Pryor, but it won’t be much of a challenge since JC has a history with Davis, Jackson & Saunders. Chemistry with his teammates plus an extra 6 or 7 years in the NFL.

    Pryor is a QB. QB of the future in fact. The first “franchise” QB in as long as I can remember. But he’s not ready now. He won’t be ready at any time this season. He may not even be ready at any time next season. 2013 is the year Terrelle Pryor makes his mark on the NFL and leads the Raiders to greatness. do NOT rush him in before he’s ready. no need to stunt his development. If the Raiders are losing, leave JCamp alone. If he gets hurt, play Boller.

  93. Method To My Madness Says:

    86.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    68.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:57 am
    42.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
    That being said Tonga could not hold Reece’s jock when it comes to helping this team.

    **************************

    Dueces……….how would you figure that when Reece cant run block at all….what is the first thing a FB must do? Thanks for playing

    —-

    How can you week in and week out say Reece cant run block? Numbers dont lie.

    *************************

    Actually…when we make all of our big runs its out the one back set….sorry but when i hear this argument for the the damn number it makes me wanna puke cuz you guys aint watching the games

    We ran for 234 yards vs jets…without that reece guy sucking as a blocker

    —-

    If thats the case man, your proving the point that we DONT need Tonga.

    You cant deny that Reece is a huge weapon in the passing game. So saying that a FB isnt the reason we have been running at will on everyone proves that Tonga is pointless then.

    ************************

    No becuz when it gets later on in year when defense catches up with offense people will sniff that schit out.

    You wanna build a bully? Get a damn fullback and we have one.

    He brings toughness that Reece just doesnt have. Reece isnt even consistent at making plays….we need a hammerhead to open up holes.

    you have no vision for the future and these playoffs at all

    reece is a gimmick player

  94. bcz24 Says:

    Im not on B’s Tonga wagon. I think we are fine without him. I think as our WRs mature and grow into their roles our offense is going to get more explosive, I don’t see where a blocking fullback outweighs what Reece can do as a receiver (and Reece isn’t bad enough as a blocker to be an issue IMO) Of course in short yardage situations you dont have Reece lead blocking (Perfect role for Beast Campbell) but I agree, its not worth the 46th rostor spot for a blocking back.

  95. qodrn Says:

    From the Texans website:

    Read what Texans head coach Gary Kubiak, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and some of the players said after Thursday’s practice.

    The Texans practiced Thursday at the Methodist Training Center and after, head coach Gary Kubiak, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and some players answered questions from the media. The following is a transcript of their respective interviews.

    Head Coach Gary Kubiak
    Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips
    CB Jason Allen
    FB James Casey
    RB Arian Foster
    CB Kareem Jackson
    DE Antonio Smith

    Head Coach Gary Kubiak
    (on if there’s any new information on any injuries) “No, (Ben) Tate and (Derrick) Ward still did not practice today, but both of them took a step forward, so we’re hoping that they’re out here tomorrow. Kareem (Jackson) did practice today, so that’s a sign in the right direction. Other than that, that’s it.”

    (on if the first priority against Oakland is to stop their running game) “No doubt, they can control the game on you. They can not only run the ball well, but they make big plays running the ball, so that’s what scares the heck out of you. It’s a big challenge for us because it just seems like the first month of the season, we’ve played more spread out teams, throwing football teams than we have downhill running teams, so that’ll be a different challenge for us. We’ve been playing some 3-4 teams and now we catch a 4-3 team, so a little bit of a changeup in what we’ve been seeing.”

    (on WR Andre Johnson) “Andre (Johnson), he’s doing good. Ya’ll saw him. He’s out here today. It’s my understanding he’s a little sore coming out of the surgery, but very upbeat, knows exactly what he’s dealing with. Like I said, we’ll just keep our fingers crossed that we get there pretty quickly. Knowing him, he will.”

    (on if he has a better idea on WR Andre Johnson’s recovery time) “No, I really don’t. I think the way it was described to me is after about a week of getting in the rehab process, I’ll have a better idea of what we’re looking at. The fact that everybody’s so positive, the doctors, trainers, everybody, makes me feel pretty good about it.”

    (on all of the injuries) “Kareem (Jackson) did practice today. He’s doing well, so we’ll see how he does tomorrow. (Derrick) Ward and (Ben) Tate did not practice and (Tim) Dobbins did not practice either.”

    (on CB Sherrick McManis) “He did practice today. He’s coming off of a tweaked hamstring, but he did practice today. We’ll see where he’s at tomorrow.”

    (on who will start at cornerback opposite of CB Johnathan Joseph) “Well, I think first off, Kareem’s (Jackson) got to prove to us tomorrow that he’s back to 100 percent or awful close to it before we put him back out there, so we’ll see what happens tomorrow. Like I said, I’ll make that decision going into the game. Hopefully they’re both available. I look at them as both starters, so we’ll see, see what happens.”

    (on the Raiders defense without CB Nnamdi Asomugha) “Well they still got very good corners. They still play the same defense, play man coverage, a lot of eight-man fronts. That’s the Raider way. It’s been that way for years. I don’t see much change from that standpoint. Very aggressive, probably as good up front as any team we’ve faced right now, so that’s a big challenge for us, offensive line.”

    (on the running backs rotation) “Well I’ve got two healthy ones. If that what happens, then (Lawrence) Vickers or James (Casey) would have to be my third on game day, so let’s see what happens. I’m hoping those two guys maybe practice a little bit tomorrow and make it tough on us.”

    (on how difficult it is to have two healthy running backs) “Well it’s very difficult. We played the whole game last week in that situation after Ben (Tate) went out. You always want to suit three guys. You hope you never get to that guy, but you always want to suit three. The scary thing is we’ve been beat up at that position all year, so I’m kind of waiting for us to come back the other way, get everybody healthy, so when (Derrick) Ward and Tate are both back out there, then you feel like you’re good.”

    (on if RB Chris Ogbonnaya is the No. 2 running back right now) “Oh yeah, going into the game, he’s going to be my number two probably one way or another.”

    (on how he feels about RB Chris Ogbonnaya being the No. 2 running back) “I feel good. He’s getting better as a player. He played very good for (Special Teams Coordinator) Joe (Marciano) on special teams. Obviously it’s a big step for him in his career, but he’s worked hard. He deserves an opportunity to do it. He’s done a good job.”

    (on if he’s stressed the carryover effect from last Sunday to the team) “Hopefully carryover the good stuff, is that what you’re talking about? It’s a tough league from that standpoint. You have a tough loss in New Orleans, you got to turn around and play the Steelers. We had a big win last week everybody feels good about, we got to turn around and do it again this week. That’s part of the NFL, but our focus has been good. We practiced good in the last two days and finish up good tomorrow and go to work.”

    Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips
    (on playing the Oakland Raiders and RB Darren McFadden) “Well, we’re facing one of the best backs in the League. Certainly, we have the best one but he’s really a top player and leading the League in rushing. We’re very aware of that. They’re a strong running team but they’re averaging 409 yards a game in total offense, so it’s not just a running team. They’ve been very good offensively this year and it’s going to be a challenge for us.”

    (on if Oakland RB Darren McFadden compares to anyone he’s faced in the past) “He looks a lot like Eric Dickerson did, I think. He’s that kind of a runner. He’s got quick feet and that tremendous burst. But he’s real powerful.”

    (on Oakland RB Darren McFadden being tall) “Yeah. He runs a little high but you can’t get to him. He’s a great back. A guy that won it all in college and now he’s finally healthy and you can see what he can do.”

    (on if his first job is to stop Oakland’s running game) “It’s always scoring defense. Their strong suit is running the ball, so that’s our challenge, certainly.”

    (on what he learned about the team against the Steelers) “Well, I think we’re a tough physical team. We’d like to think we’re like they are. I thought we played the kind of game you need to play against that team. It’s different every week.”

    (on if the Raiders will be the first big test of the defense against the run) “Well, I think it’s a tremendous test. I don’t know if it’s the first real test. I mean the other teams have tried to run the football. Pittsburgh’s been a good running team for a long time. I don’t know if it’s the first real test, but it’s going to be a big challenge for us because they really run the ball well and they had 500 yards last week.”

    (on if speed is a real factor in a game) “You look for football players. They come in all sizes and they come in all speeds. You look for good players. They have a lot of guys with speed that are good football players.”

    (on if stopping the Raiders’ run game is first priority) “Not necessarily. They run the ball tremendously well, but they’re averaging over 400 yards a game, so it isn’t all rushing. The scoring part of the game, the pass comes into it, unless you can just run right over somebody. We’re prepared for both because they do both well.”

    (on the perception that a 3-4 defense is weaker against the run) “Why would that be a perception? Pittsburgh’s been the number one run defense for a long time. We led the League when I was in Buffalo. It’s good players. It doesn’t matter what you line up against, it’s what kind of players you have. I think 3-4 teams have been just as strong or just as weak against the run over the years as 4-3 teams. It’s who you have and how they play.”

    CB Jason Allen
    (on his performance last week) “Last week is last week and it’s time to move on. We got new opponents this week, so I just want to focus on the Oakland game and we have at stake going into this week.”

    (on if he will be starting against the Raiders) “We all prepare as starters each and every week, so you just go out and practice to get better.”

    (on what concerns him about the Raiders) “We know that they have a lot of speed. They’re capable. What they want to do is go deep with us and they have a lot of guys without a lot of speed and a lot of size. We just got to play disciplined and play smart football.”

    (on taking advantage of his opportunity last week) “Well it’s something that just throughout this League, whenever you have opportunity, you got to take advantage and take full advantage of the opportunity. Opportunity, they come and sometimes they go, so whenever they come, take full advantage of them and hopefully they’ll come again.”

    (on WR Denarius Moore) “He’s a speedster. I remember watching him at Tennessee and some of the plays he’s making this year, I was saying maybe if he could have had a better quarterback, maybe he could’ve made some of those big plays like he did at Tennessee. I stay watching those guys all the time. He was a playmaker at Tennessee and he’s definitely showcasing the same talent now out in Oakland.”

    FB James Casey
    (on what it’s like to have a lot of different options of where he could play) “It’s great. Of course I want to be on the field. I want opportunities. I’m not going to shy away from any kind of, that’s what the League’s all about is opportunities. Take advantage of it. I want the ball. Just like anybody else, you want to be out there making plays. I take it all in stride. Wherever they want to line me up, I look at everything as an opportunity and it’s a chance for me to go out there and make plays with whatever position it is or where ever I’m lining up. In whatever situation I’m put in, I got to go out there and just try to do my job, try to make plays. That way, they’ll keep giving me opportunities.”

    (on if it’s hard knowing all the positions he plays) “Yeah, I got to do a little bit extra. I got to meet, have a little bit more meetings with the different stuff that I’m doing and I got to study a little bit more of the plays and watch more film. It’s my job. Football’s my job. I watch a lot of film. I study the offensive stuff. I was very fortunate to be in the offense for two years and kind of sit back and learn everything so now it’s not as bad.”

    (on if he got any grief for jumping in the air with the ball in last week’s game) “Yeah, I caught a lot of grief all week for that. I think I’ve learned my lesson hopefully and probably won’t consider doing that anymore.

    (on what everyone was saying to him after that play) “Coaches, players, everybody, mainly just talking about just taking care of the ball and making sure I don’t fumble because you never want to do something like that where it risks turning the ball over, but I did not fumble. We kept the ball. It’s in good fun, so nothing serious. Nothing bad happened.”

    RB Arian Foster
    (on winning AFC Offensive Player of the Week honors) “That’s a huge honor in our League whenever you’re recognized for anything, so it was good, but I’m not much for individual accolades. They’re good and I accept them, but we have to win.”

    (on how much more pressure falls on him with WR Andre Johnson out) “I believe he’s the greatest player in our game today. He’s going to be missed, but that’s the thing about this League is you have to step up and have guys step up. We played a couple games without him last year and we fared pretty well, so that’s what we’re looking to do again and this is what we have to do.”

    (on how much it helps that the team still played well when WR Andre Johnson was out last year) “Well it does, but before that I think we just have faith in our coaching staff and our teammates. We have guys that can get the job done. There’s no slouches in this locker room. These are some of the top athletes in the country, so they can get the job done and they will.”

    (on if he was sore at all this week) “A little bit, but that’s what I signed up for.”

    (on RB Chris Ogbonnaya) “We’ve all had confidence in him since training camp. We knew what he was doing then when he was carrying the load in training camp when everybody was hurt. We all have confidence in him and I’m happy to see that his hard work has paid off and he’s on the 53 now.”

    (on being able to play as much as he did against the Steelers) “I believe that’s what the offseason is for is for during the season, you can withstand that kind of load and you can carry your team if need be. That’s why I worked so hard.”

    (on how much he’s talked with and encouraged RB Chris Ogbonnaya) “We’ve been there every step of the way. Me and him have had talks, down talks outside of football just getting to know each other and about our situations current and past. I think that’s what makes running backs so close is we go through a lot of the same things.”

    (on the Texans giving opportunities to players coming off the practice squad) “I think it says a lot. When I first got here, I remember Coach Kube said, at the time Brian Cushing was our first round pick and he said, ‘I don’t care if you’re Brian or an undrafted guy. If you can play, at some point in time, we’re going to find a way to get you on the field.’ I believed him and it wasn’t a lie. He was telling the truth and I think that’s really how it is across the League. If you don’t get your shot at your current team, there’s 31 other teams and if you work hard enough and if you want it, you’ll get your chance somewhere.”

    (on if he pays attention to what RB Darren McFadden is doing in the NFL) “Yeah, absolutely. I’m a fan of his. I tell him that every time I see him. I’m still a fan of the game and he’s one of the better backs in our League right now and it’s fun to watch him operate.”

    CB Kareem Jackson
    (on how he feels) “Physically, I feel pretty good. Guys in the training room know we’ve been doing everything to get everything back to 100 percent. Those guys have been pushing me and doing all the right things, so I feel pretty good about this week.”

    (on if he’s ready to play against the Raiders) “Oh, definitely. Definitely.”

    (on RB Darren McFadden) “Darren McFadden’s definitely a great running back. He’s fast, he’s big, he’s physical. He’s known for that stiff arm, so any time we get in the open field with him, got to try to do everything you can to get him on the ground.”

    (on how tough it was to be inactive last week) “It was really tough standing on the sideline watching those guys go out there and play the way they play. I definitely wanted to be a part of it, but those guys did a great job.”

    (on how important it is for him that he’ll be back this week) “For me, it’s very important. I know I can’t take another week of watching the game like that, so it’s really important for me to get back out there, help my teammates and go out and get another win.”

    (on if he has any limitations) “I’m in pretty good shape, no limitations. Just ready to go.”

    DE Antonio Smith
    (on RB Darren McFadden playing like RB Eric Dickerson) “I didn’t really watch Eric Dickerson growing up. I’ve seen him on a couple highlight films. He does run high like him, powerful. He drops his shoulder in there. I’ve been watching him on film. He’s playing a lot more aggressive than I’ve seen him play for couple of years he was in the League. He’s lowering his head in there. He’s coming, he’s breaking out of blocks. He’s taking it to the house. He’s got the speed, the power. He’s looking good right now.”

    (on if RB Darren McFadden is like RB Arian Foster) “I’ve never really seen a running back like Arian, I don’t think. Arian has this like, smooth style that I’ve never really seen before. It’s almost his own thing. I think that as far as me seeing McFadden, he sticks it in there a little bit more. He’s more of a power back but still has the speed to outrun you.”

    (on what he learned from last week’s win) “What did we learn from the win? How to win in the fourth quarter. That’s what we learned, how to finally pull it out because so many times you be on the wrong end of the stick of fourth quarter comebacks and I think that last week was a tale that we can get it done. If we just keep flying around, keep doing what we’re doing and don’t really lax at any moment, we can pull it out.”

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  96. Method To My Madness Says:

    91.Mj57 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Look we WOULD NOT have been the a good running team with out a prolific blocking Fb. Reece is a good blocker, he is a threat out of the backfield and can line up at Wr. If there is another Fb in the NFL that can do this find him and tell me… Don’t worry I’ll wait

    ***************************

    HAHAHA reece is an awful blocker…please stop lying becuz the truth is out on your boy

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Pryor > Newton. I said it

    not today … but overall NFL career

  98. Method To My Madness Says:

    94.bcz24 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    Im not on B’s Tonga wagon. I think we are fine without him. I think as our WRs mature and grow into their roles our offense is going to get more explosive, I don’t see where a blocking fullback outweighs what Reece can do as a receiver (and Reece isn’t bad enough as a blocker to be an issue IMO) Of course in short yardage situations you dont have Reece lead blocking (Perfect role for Beast Campbell) but I agree, its not worth the 46th rostor spot for a blocking back.
    *************************

    gimme a real FB since we are building a bully instead of a gimmick FB that cant block at all

  99. Method To My Madness Says:

    We run a variant of Air Coryell offense….you think no FB is needed? Power run game? you guys are outta your damn minds

  100. Method To My Madness Says:

    97.RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    Pryor > Newton. I said it

    not today … but overall NFL career

    **********************

    I didnt know you smoked weed

  101. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Of course in short yardage situations you dont have Reece lead blocking (Perfect role for Beast Campbell)

    ***

    Agreed!

    BCamp at FB would be a MLB’s worst nightmare

    BCamp at RT might be an OLB’s wet dream

  102. ghostraiders Says:

    That’s funny. …saying he wont be ready until. 2013… I bet we see him play some this season…. he wont play a lot unless jc gets injured… but he will play… the Guy can run for daylight. … he’s a threat to score…I think he gets in this season..IMO

  103. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Air Coryell offense

    ***

    exactly!

    tell me who the Rams FB was when they were the greatest show on turf … can you do it without Google?

    Didn’t think so. NEXT

  104. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Cant wait for the I formation with Tonga, playaction pass to Tonga in the flat that goes for a 1 yard gain.

  105. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That’s funny. …saying he wont be ready until. 2013… I bet we see him play some this season

    ***

    Ghost,

    you want to see Pryor run some gimmick plays like Tim Tebow in Denver? no thanks bro

    I’m not a fan of the wildcat either. Pass on that trash. Let Pryor hold a clipboard. Jackson, Saunders & Campbell can teach this youngster how to be a pro and groom him for future stardom

  106. Method To My Madness Says:

    102.ghostraiders Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    That’s funny. …saying he wont be ready until. 2013… I bet we see him play some this season…. he wont play a lot unless jc gets injured… but he will play… the Guy can run for daylight. … he’s a threat to score…I think he gets in this season..IMO

    ***********************************

    Wildcat and thats it

  107. r8dercain Says:

    The matchup nightmare is good but when he’s used as a “true” FB
    he sucks.

    Look I’m not knocking him he’s not a very good blocking FB
    there does that make u knumbskulls feel better.

    B*tches!!!

  108. ghostraiders Says:

    Rockstar…. its crazy to say that now… but I think Pryor is going to surprise a lot of people. .. that dude is athletic man.. if we use him every once in a while.at home games.. he’s going to make peoples jaw drop!! I’m with you rock star… but he needs a few weeks..say early Nov

  109. Method To My Madness Says:

    103.RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    Air Coryell offense

    ***

    exactly!

    tell me who the Rams FB was when they were the greatest show on turf … can you do it without Google?

    Didn’t think so. NEXT

    **********************

    we werent talking bout tonga being some pro bowler…just a capable blocker…and you already know i know who the FB was on that team…so no need to answer lol

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Tonga is equal to Reece as a blocker and about HALF the threat to do something with the ball in his hands

    Why do you think the Raiders played a Rookie TE at Fullback over a 2nd year player they’ve been trying to develop?

    Tonga is to FB as Nick Miller is to WR

  111. Method To My Madness Says:

    And RRS you live in podunk….the fb who we wont name use to open holes and didnt get buffed by LBs when leading for faulk did he?

  112. r8dercain Says:

    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Cant wait for the I formation with Tonga, playaction pass to Tonga in the flat that goes for a 1 yard gain.
    ___________
    he won’t be used that way. But if that’s the case wait til Reece has to block for bush to get a yard

  113. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Don’t look now – but Alex Smith is having a better year than Jason Campbell. With a hellova lot worse O-Line and worse WRs.

  114. JLofty Says:

    So Reece can’t block at all? And we had the No.2 rushing attack in the NFL last year (Reece’s first season as a starting FB) and are No1. this year? But he can’t block?!?! Hmmm something doesn’t add up here. We have one of the best rushing O’s in the league but we only gain yards in one back sets?
    Or maybe Reece can block, maybe not like Ritchie or Rathman but he’s young, still learning how to play FB and is a crazy weapon in the passing game which is why the coaching staff LOVES him. Maybe that’s it….

  115. Method To My Madness Says:

    110.RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    I think Tonga is equal to Reece as a blocker and about HALF the threat to do something with the ball in his hands

    Why do you think the Raiders played a Rookie TE at Fullback over a 2nd year player they’ve been trying to develop?

    Tonga is to FB as Nick Miller is to WR
    ***********************

    Wrong again…Nick Miller isnt a football player..Tonga is and tonga has size not a smurf….bad example try again

    Tonga blocks way better than reece….reece cant block at all…at all!!

    you guys are so lost you let a few catches fool you into thinking he is a FB….boy this blog sometimes is sad

  116. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The play where Campbell threw the pick in the endzone doesnt happen with Pryor, he runs that in for a TD..

    Pryor could be an effective ‘goal line’ QB

  117. LA to TheBay Says:

    Tonga took a screen play to the house last preseason and lokked pretty good doing it.

    He can run too.

  118. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Any time we have to throw the ball to win we’re not winnin’. Now, with that said if our “D” didn’t suck so badly we would be able to play every week the running game, mistake free offensive football and win week after week.

  119. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Don’t look now – but Alex Smith is having a better year than Jason Campbell. With a hellova lot worse O-Line and worse WRs.

    ***

    Maverick,

    thanks for pi$$ing in the Kool-Aid!

  120. DeuceDeuce Says:

    r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Cant wait for the I formation with Tonga, playaction pass to Tonga in the flat that goes for a 1 yard gain.
    ___________
    he won’t be used that way. But if that’s the case wait til Reece has to block for bush to get a yard

    Did you not watch the last 2 pre-seasons? Tonga has like 9 catches for 17 yards…

  121. ghostraiders Says:

    Method… yea.. wild cat.. Pryor will play… this season.. I guess when you start hearing about him in practice. .. hue Jack will not be able to resist the temptation. . Especially if we get lucky enough to blow some team out at home..put Pryor in..

  122. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Pryor could be an effective ‘goal line’ QB

    ***

    good gravy. here we go

    Pryor = goal-line QB?

    LOL!

  123. Method To My Madness Says:

    114.JLofty Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    So Reece can’t block at all? And we had the No.2 rushing attack in the NFL last year (Reece’s first season as a starting FB) and are No1. this year? But he can’t block?!?! Hmmm something doesn’t add up here. We have one of the best rushing O’s in the league but we only gain yards in one back sets?
    Or maybe Reece can block, maybe not like Ritchie or Rathman but he’s young, still learning how to play FB and is a crazy weapon in the passing game which is why the coaching staff LOVES him. Maybe that’s it….

    ***********************

    This is the porblem with most of you bloggers…you let stats fool you and therefore on most issues are uninformed.

    that number 2 ranking is bogus…we couldnt run it whenever we felt like it and thats a fact

    And for you to deny how most of our big runs occured out of one back set is either a case of denial or your are a liar…which one is it?

    He is a rare weapon in pass game and isnt a factor every game…..go watch all 16 games last year then come and talk to me…maybe come to a game sit by the B@uce and he points out what a FB is suppose to do

  124. DeuceDeuce Says:

    The I formation with DMC/Reece is our best backfield period. More options.

    And it was pointed out our biggest runs have come out of the single back, which is perfect with Reece’s ability to motion out of the backfield to a WR.

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LA,

    Tonga fans are hanging their hat on one play from LAST preseason against scrubs.

    DHB haters are out in full force after going 100+ against N.E.

    I’m confused. Am I the only guy with a little bit of common sense in here?

  126. r8dercain Says:

    Pryor will not play this season. We can run wildcat with DMAC

  127. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    Pryor could be an effective ‘goal line’ QB

    ***

    good gravy. here we go

    Pryor = goal-line QB?

    LOL!

    —-

    Tim Tebow got drafted in the 1st round by making a college career out of being a goal line QB lol..

  128. ghostraiders Says:

    Rockstar.. you predict he’s going to be better than can Newton.. then you laugh at the idea of using Pryor in certain situations. .. wtf?

  129. Method To My Madness Says:

    http://tfdssports.com/2010-articles/september/raiders-vs-seahawks-recap.html

    120.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Cant wait for the I formation with Tonga, playaction pass to Tonga in the flat that goes for a 1 yard gain.
    ___________
    he won’t be used that way. But if that’s the case wait til Reece has to block for bush to get a yard

    Did you not watch the last 2 pre-seasons? Tonga has like 9 catches for 17 yards…

    ****************************

    Shows DueceDumb is a liar

  130. DeuceDeuce Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    LA,

    Tonga fans are hanging their hat on one play from LAST preseason against scrubs.

    DHB haters are out in full force after going 100+ against N.E.

    I’m confused. Am I the only guy with a little bit of common sense in here?

    —-

    Not if you ask others. Everyone here thinks they are right about everything. lol

  131. Method To My Madness Says:

    Duecedumb you are a liar….2010 preseason Tonga caught a screen pass for like a 30 something yard TD…..thanks for lying as usual….you dont know this game….please leave this blog

  132. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    http://tfdssports.com/2010-articles/september/raiders-vs-seahawks-recap.html

    120.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Cant wait for the I formation with Tonga, playaction pass to Tonga in the flat that goes for a 1 yard gain.
    ___________
    he won’t be used that way. But if that’s the case wait til Reece has to block for bush to get a yard

    Did you not watch the last 2 pre-seasons? Tonga has like 9 catches for 17 yards…

    ****************************

    Shows DueceDumb is a liar

    —-

    Do you know what sarcasm is? Guess not and apparently your 14 since you resort to name calling.

  133. ghostraiders Says:

    Cain… I wish I could bet you a beer bro… Pryor will play… it might only be a few plays on offense… but I think he plays this season..imo

  134. Method To My Madness Says:

    RRS….what dont you get that DHB’s 100 game is a farce…big time farce….a garbage time 58 yard catch….whoopty do….and the whole game he lacks awareness and ball skills. He cant run routes….what about that are you missing? Oh wait you arent at games to see it like I am….now I got it

  135. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Duecedumb you are a liar….2010 preseason Tonga caught a screen pass for like a 30 something yard TD…..thanks for lying as usual….you dont know this game….please leave this blog

    You google searched stats based off of a sarcastic statment I made??? Classic!! lol

  136. r8dercain Says:

    Deuce deuce
    is that ur age.
    If so u understand now……

  137. Just Fire Baby Says:

    please leave this blog

    **************************

    AT least he asks nicely, lol

  138. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Jason Campbell gets hurt, tell him to suck it up and be a man. He will, too. He’s a warrior. Not afraid to play hurt and actually plays pretty well

    Boller sucks – period. But Hueball picked him to be #2 QB? so be it

    Pryor = 2011 project. Inactive for 11 games until JC goes to I.R. in which case TP becomes #2

  139. Method To My Madness Says:

    132.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    http://tfdssports.com/2010-articles/september/raiders-vs-seahawks-recap.html

    120.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Cant wait for the I formation with Tonga, playaction pass to Tonga in the flat that goes for a 1 yard gain.
    ___________
    he won’t be used that way. But if that’s the case wait til Reece has to block for bush to get a yard

    Did you not watch the last 2 pre-seasons? Tonga has like 9 catches for 17 yards…

    ****************************

    Shows DueceDumb is a liar

    —-

    Do you know what sarcasm is? Guess not and apparently your 14 since you resort to name calling.

    **********************

    no, you are trying to back peddal here lil guy and its not working….you made a false statement and now wanna even further your lie and claim it was sarcasm…that may work on the other mental midgets but not the great B@uce

  140. r8dercain Says:

    I meant I understand now

  141. bcz24 Says:

    113.raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    Don’t look now – but Alex Smith is having a better year than Jason Campbell. With a hellova lot worse O-Line and worse WRs.
    ********************
    Hows their run game look? Total offense? Right…

  142. Method To My Madness Says:

    135.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Duecedumb you are a liar….2010 preseason Tonga caught a screen pass for like a 30 something yard TD…..thanks for lying as usual….you dont know this game….please leave this blog

    You google searched stats based off of a sarcastic statment I made??? Classic!! lol

    ********************

    Actually moron you can go back to archives from last year about Tonga making that play and how I wanted him on the roster….the link was brought up to display how much of a liar you are…and you are a liar

  143. Sanjoseraidersfan Says:

    Did anyone notice last week, the Texans D injured 5 Steeler players bad! Their D is a beast. I’m a bit worried, I hope our Raiders come out of this game with NO MORE INJURIES!

  144. Method To My Madness Says:

    DeuceDumb=liar

  145. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Everyone here thinks they are right about everything.

    ***

    LOL!

    thanks DD :)

  146. Method To My Madness Says:

    duecedumb puts up BS stats as if it wont get detected hahahahahaha

  147. r8dercain Says:

    Deuce deuce is a youngster. We forgive u bruh

  148. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hmmm….just saw something interesting….

    Maybe it isn’t only that our D-Coordinator sucks year after year (although last year was actually pretty good before we got rid of Marshall).

    check this out…

    “The defense (Cowboys) has taken to Rob Ryan’s system faster than expected considering the lockout and no offseason program. The Cowboys ranked fourth in the league overall and first against the run. They are also third in sacks with 13.”

  149. Method To My Madness Says:

    Only a select percentage of bloggers actually wanna win on here

  150. Method To My Madness Says:

    147.r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Deuce deuce is a youngster. We forgive u bruh

    **********************

    You can I wont….lil chump runs his mouth and always says the most uninformed schit ever

  151. DeuceDeuce Says:

    lol…wow.

  152. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ghost,

    why hasn’t New England signed your boy Nick Miller yet?

    surely they can use two Wes Welkers!

  153. Method To My Madness Says:

    148.raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Hmmm….just saw something interesting….

    Maybe it isn’t only that our D-Coordinator sucks year after year (although last year was actually pretty good before we got rid of Marshall).

    check this out…

    “The defense (Cowboys) has taken to Rob Ryan’s system faster than expected considering the lockout and no offseason program. The Cowboys ranked fourth in the league overall and first against the run. They are also third in sacks with 13.”

    *****************

    And first in Tony Romo bonehead plays lmao

  154. zopi Says:

    If it was going to be a tough task beating the Texans with a full slate, all these injuries are going to make it tougher. Without Shonasty, Johnson, and Chekwa, plus playing the rooks, the defense will definitely have their work cut out for them. Those on the field will have to toughen it up and step up.

    ARod is taking a lot of heat for the Yankees’ loss last night after tanking on key situations. And he should, not only being the top paid Yankee, and of MLB as well. The same thing should apply to Seymour, as the Raiders top rank. If he doesn’t step up and play lights out tomorrow, even in a loss, he’ll show that he isn’t really worth his salary. Not that ARod or Seymour are giving anything back.

    I will still take the +6 points.
    So far, I’m 3-1 betting on the Raiders this year.

  155. r8dercain Says:

    Ron Ryan wasn’t allowed to play his style of defense

  156. Method To My Madness Says:

    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    lol…wow.

    ***************

    Is that what you said whenyou won your first Pokemon torunament recently?

  157. DeuceDeuce Says:

    r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Deuce deuce is a youngster. We forgive u bruh

    —-

    Negative.

  158. raiderzmaverick Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    113.raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    Don’t look now – but Alex Smith is having a better year than Jason Campbell. With a hellova lot worse O-Line and worse WRs.
    ********************
    Hows their run game look? Total offense? Right…
    ***************
    That’s the point. He’s doing the same thing’s Campbell is doing. Conservative, high percentage but with less mistakes. The difference is that he has a really crappy O-Line and a non-existent running game!

    Really I don’t think he’s better. I just think it’s funny how everyone would bash Alex Smith while at the same time he’s playing better than Campbell who a lot of people think are playing great for some reason.

  159. Method To My Madness Says:

    Rookie DeMarcus Van Dyke and Joe Porter likely will get added playing time Sunday if Johnson and Chimdi Chekwa can’t play.
    ******************************

    Aw schit…..Burn Notice a few times

  160. ghostraiders Says:

    Rockstar. .. how many teams have two qbs on the active roster… I believe Raiders are the only team right now going with two qbs. . That will change soon.. I’m telling you.. he will play..ill remind you… al Davis told Pryor to appeal the 5 game suspension for a reason.. not to just pay him extra for holding a clip board… watch??? Lets let it play out… you’ll see…

  161. LA to TheBay Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    LA,

    Tonga fans are hanging their hat on one play from LAST preseason against scrubs.

    DHB haters are out in full force after going 100+ against N.E.

    I’m confused. Am I the only guy with a little bit of common sense in here?

    ————————–

    Nope.

    I’m happy DHB had a good game. Depsite the drops, the 58 yarder is exactly what we’ve been waiting to see out of him. He’s starting to put it together and will likely get a lot of PT this year to prove himself.

    Don’t know that I’m a Tonga “fan,” but the Raiders use the FB a lot more than most teams these days. Can we run out of singleback sets and run well? Sure. OLine is playing out of their minds tight now, but I’d like to see what a pure fullback (albeit, unpolished) looks like in this offense, particularly if we’re going to be running it a lot on Houston to control clock and managae game.

    Who knows, maybe he plays well and sticks?

  162. Method To My Madness Says:

    157.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Deuce deuce is a youngster. We forgive u bruh

    —-

    Negative.

    *******************

    Cain is speaking in Raider and football knowledge….totally a youngster

  163. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    lol…wow.

    ***************

    Is that what you said whenyou won your first Pokemon torunament recently?

    —-

    What’s a torunament? Is that like a tournament? Are they similar?

  164. Sanjoseraidersfan Says:

    A question to the board!
    Where do the Raiders Offense rank in the league and where do the Defence?

    Thanks :-)
    GOOOO RAIDERS!!!!

  165. LA to TheBay Says:

    Actually, looking at that Jets game, Cartright made some decent blocks to spring DMC.

  166. r8dercain Says:

    Sanjoseraidersfan Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    A question to the board!
    Where do the Raiders Offense rank in the league and where do the Defence?

    Thanks
    GOOOO RAIDERS!!!!
    _____________
    get yo a$$ outta here if u can’t answer this
    knumbnutts

  167. bcz24 Says:

    152.RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    Ghost,

    why hasn’t New England signed your boy Nick Miller yet?

    surely they can use two Wes Welkers!
    *******************
    They have 2, Julian Edleman ring a bell?

    Nick Miller signed with the Rams

  168. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Shaughnessy is out.

  169. Raiderbuck Says:

    After losing for what seemed like eons, even the fans have to learn how to win again.

  170. ghostraiders Says:

    Last week my pick of the week was ravens – the points vs jets… that was easy.. we softened up the jets for the ravens. .. this week my sure pick is Buffalo +3 at home vs Philly. .thevdream team… make some money…

  171. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Wonder what will end up being the better decision..

    Signing Vince Young and have a 3rd rounder. Or Drafting Pryor.

    Thats assuming Young was considered. Have to think he was though with the drafting of Pryor.

  172. bcz24 Says:

    That’s the point. He’s doing the same thing’s Campbell is doing. Conservative, high percentage but with less mistakes. The difference is that he has a really crappy O-Line and a non-existent running game!
    **************
    I dont understand what makes you say he is playing ‘better’? Less INTs? JC had a bad game, does that mean Smith and Campbell are better than Brady and Rivers?

    JC has a 65.3% completion percentage (the best here since Gannon in the SB year) and is on pace to throw for 4,000 yards (with an RB who is on pace for 2000 yards rushing)

  173. bcz24 Says:

    The iggles will beat the Bills. You cant beat Vick if you cant hit him. They have no pass rush, and their best pass rushing linebacker Chris Kelsey is out.

  174. DeuceDeuce Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    The iggles will beat the Bills. You cant beat Vick if you cant hit him. They have no pass rush, and their best pass rushing linebacker Chris Kelsey is out.

    —-

    I agree. I think Vick runs more this game than all year too. He’s gonna look to make a statement.

  175. ElkGRaider Says:

    Anyone get the feeling like one of our receivers is about to get the boot? Hagan? No need for 6 receivers when we need all the DB’s we can get…

    Reece is good. Stop all the hate. As good a blocker as we have…

    Pryor is getting no run. And the guy comparing him to Cam?!? You nuts?!? Have you not seen the hitch in this guys throw? Its like he pushes the ball from his palm. Hopefully it will be corrected…

    From me as a Raider fan…
    Raiders 31…Texans 28. Our passing game is what gets us there as they stack 8 in the box. (3 down..5 backers)

    Me being honest…
    Texans 31…Raiders 20
    Gonna be the Arian show. A good running game at home against the Raiders? They will get first downs at will. Seen it too many times.

  176. Method To My Madness Says:

    163.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    lol…wow.

    ***************

    Is that what you said whenyou won your first Pokemon torunament recently?

    —-

    What’s a torunament? Is that like a tournament? Are they similar?

    ************************

    Wow…you speak on me for not seeing your lie about “sarcasm” and yet you wanna run spell check as if this is English class….get the fk outta here with your limited football acumen….you’re too dumb to post in here

  177. Method To My Madness Says:

    175.ElkGRaider Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Anyone get the feeling like one of our receivers is about to get the boot? Hagan? No need for 6 receivers when we need all the DB’s we can get…

    Reece is good. Stop all the hate. As good a blocker as we have…

    Pryor is getting no run. And the guy comparing him to Cam?!? You nuts?!? Have you not seen the hitch in this guys throw? Its like he pushes the ball from his palm. Hopefully it will be corrected…

    From me as a Raider fan…
    Raiders 31…Texans 28. Our passing game is what gets us there as they stack 8 in the box. (3 down..5 backers)

    Me being honest…
    Texans 31…Raiders 20
    Gonna be the Arian show. A good running game at home against the Raiders? They will get first downs at will. Seen it too many times.

    ***********************************

    This is MR posting lol….you gotta do better than that

  178. bcz24 Says:

    I’m actually excited to see what RunDMC can do on the fast track of an indoor field.

  179. Method To My Madness Says:

    LOL Bills are about to rape the Eagles……Eagles have side dishes….no Meat and Potatoes

  180. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    163.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    151.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    lol…wow.

    ***************

    Is that what you said whenyou won your first Pokemon torunament recently?

    —-

    What’s a torunament? Is that like a tournament? Are they similar?

    ************************

    Wow…you speak on me for not seeing your lie about “sarcasm” and yet you wanna run spell check as if this is English class….get the fk outta here with your limited football acumen….you’re too dumb to post in here

    Cool.

  181. ElkGRaider Says:

    Nah playa…this is B Cage from the EG. Just being honest. Die hard fan.

    Loosing this game is no big deal. Its playing with house money. After this the schedule gets much easier. Just have to handle the Chargers…

  182. bcz24 Says:

    Eagles win by 10+ against the defenseless Jills.

  183. Method To My Madness Says:

    Anyhow…I’ma get at ya cats later…..bout to meet these quotas at rhe job site……CODE BLACK

  184. John David Booty Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Until we wake up and stop letting corporations outsource we will continue to have a sluggish economy.

    Manufacturing made the US strong and now it is turning China into a super power.

    The only president who tried to curtail this activity was Clinton by imposing tax levies on imported goods in an effort to help small business and bring back our middle class.
    ________________________________________________________
    Life is short. The world is big. Don’t limit the rest of your life to one country if you can live better somewhere else. If the United States economy crashes, which it likely will, why not see what the rest of the world has to offer? Myself, I probably won’t be in the states at all in the next 5 years. My point is,this president, that president, Republican, Democrat, its all irrelevant. We live on EARTH, make the most of it. We don’t have long.

    GO RAIDERS!!!

    SC Fight On!

  185. DeuceDeuce Says:

    What happened to all the old posters? Like MistaBrown, Seymour Bush, Dakota, MaddenRaider etc?

  186. Method To My Madness Says:

    181.ElkGRaider Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    Nah playa…this is B Cage from the EG. Just being honest. Die hard fan.

    Loosing this game is no big deal. Its playing with house money. After this the schedule gets much easier. Just have to handle the Chargers…

    *********************************

    MR aka Raider Ray aka ABP

  187. Method To My Madness Says:

    184.John David Booty Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Until we wake up and stop letting corporations outsource we will continue to have a sluggish economy.

    Manufacturing made the US strong and now it is turning China into a super power.

    The only president who tried to curtail this activity was Clinton by imposing tax levies on imported goods in an effort to help small business and bring back our middle class.
    ________________________________________________________
    Life is short. The world is big. Don’t limit the rest of your life to one country if you can live better somewhere else. If the United States economy crashes, which it likely will, why not see what the rest of the world has to offer? Myself, I probably won’t be in the states at all in the next 5 years. My point is,this president, that president, Republican, Democrat, its all irrelevant. We live on EARTH, make the most of it. We don’t have long.

    GO RAIDERS!!!

    SC Fight On!

    *********************

    FK USC

  188. LA to TheBay Says:

    ElkGRaider,

    Gotta beat the best to be the best. I’m glad we have a tough schedule. Gotta be able to handle the top teams. We can hang with em but need to overcome mental mistakes and beat ‘em.

    Especially after a loss last week at home. Nope, fk losing 2 in a row. Need a big statement game on the road and need to be able to show we can play the run better against arguably the best running team in the league not the Raiders.

  189. ElkGRaider Says:

    Eagles are now without Jason Peters and Trent Cole this week. The line is Eagles -3…hmm…

  190. John David Booty Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    184.John David Booty Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Until we wake up and stop letting corporations outsource we will continue to have a sluggish economy.

    Manufacturing made the US strong and now it is turning China into a super power.

    The only president who tried to curtail this activity was Clinton by imposing tax levies on imported goods in an effort to help small business and bring back our middle class.
    ________________________________________________________
    Life is short. The world is big. Don’t limit the rest of your life to one country if you can live better somewhere else. If the United States economy crashes, which it likely will, why not see what the rest of the world has to offer? Myself, I probably won’t be in the states at all in the next 5 years. My point is,this president, that president, Republican, Democrat, its all irrelevant. We live on EARTH, make the most of it. We don’t have long.

    GO RAIDERS!!!

    SC Fight On!

    *********************

    FK USC
    ________________________________________________________
    Hahahahahaha, I love that too! F!ck, we live in a beautiful world.

  191. ElkGRaider Says:

    I hear you LA. No Andre 3000? Put 12 in the box (including the line judge)! It makes no sense that teams can run on us like that with our size. Our outside backers are too bunched up. We need to spread them a little further out to protect the each however we play so much man to man that we cant. Gotta mix it up.

  192. John David Booty Says:

    Looks like Rock Cartwrights days are numbered.

  193. LA to TheBay Says:

    McClain being bitten by a rabid animal before kickoff and him unloading on runners would help a lot too.

  194. ElkGRaider Says:

    protect the *edge*

  195. inonewordraider Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    ElkGRaider,

    Gotta beat the best to be the best. I’m glad we have a tough schedule. Gotta be able to handle the top teams. We can hang with em but need to overcome mental mistakes and beat ‘em.

    Especially after a loss last week at home. Nope, fk losing 2 in a row. Need a big statement game on the road and need to be able to show we can play the run better against arguably the best running team in the league not the Raiders.

    _———————————–
    if we’re a legit playoff team no reason we should lose to Texans minus AJ coming off a loss when they’re coming off a big win due for a letdown. Win this game we’ll be 6 and 2 heading into a collision with the Chargers, we lose and who knows….

  196. ElkGRaider Says:

    Cartwright is the only good special teamer we have! Not him…its a WR…

  197. LA to TheBay Says:

    Cartwright is the only good special teamer we have! Not him…its a WR…

    ———-

    Agreed. We have 6 WRs and we’re actually pretty deep there. Should be Giordano, but without Chekwa, CJ, Huff being banged up, we’re thin in the defensive secondary.

    Trade would be better than just cutting someone.

    Unfortunately, the odd man out could be Hagan. He’s not home-grown.

  198. DeuceDeuce Says:

    John David Booty Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    Looks like Rock Cartwrights days are numbered.

    —-

    No way. Not gonna happen.

  199. inonewordraider Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    The iggles will beat the Bills. You cant beat Vick if you cant hit him. They have no pass rush, and their best pass rushing linebacker Chris Kelsey is out.

    _____________________
    i’m rooting eagles, i only care for the Raiders so beating AFC teams helps us

  200. DeuceDeuce Says:

    Reece not ruled out of game. Gordan is.

  201. LA to TheBay Says:

    in one word,

    I agree with most of that, but I won’t say that beating Cleveland, Denver, and KC is an automatic. Tough league. Even the 2003-2009 Raiders beat a couple of good teams each year.

  202. inonewordraider Says:

    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Wonder what will end up being the better decision..

    Signing Vince Young and have a 3rd rounder. Or Drafting Pryor.

    Thats assuming Young was considered. Have to think he was though with the drafting of Pryor.

    ___________________________
    Vince will never lead you to the promised land as a qb if Pryor can’t either which I don’t think he will at least you have a potential WR

  203. ElkGRaider Says:

    Another test Inone. Hopefully Campbell doesnt wet his pants like last week. I like Campbell…but damn…that man panicked last week until they played a prevent. Expect a bunch of Texans at the line this week.

  204. ElkGRaider Says:

    Drafting Pryor in the third wasnt a bad decision. Its just gonna take him a little while to reach his potential. Hell…that kid from NV, Kaepernick was a second rounder! And I know Pryor is better than that cat…

  205. ghostraiders Says:

    Stupid moderator. .

  206. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See October 7, 2011 « Raiders Central - The Ultimate Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Pryce not right for Raiders adding defensive lineman The Raiders met with veteran defensive lineman Trevor Pryce on Thursday. They apparently came away feeling as if he doesn’t have much to offer them in the way of run-stopping ability because he is not on the practice field this morning. Pryce, … [...]

  207. dvrick Says:

    # Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Anyhow…I’ma get at ya cats later…..bout to meet these quotas at rhe job site……CODE PINK RAIDERS IN THE CELLAR!

  208. dvrick Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    The only thing not right are the Raiders and their lame ass coach!!!

  209. anhdazman Says:

    Tonga is slow as mollassas. McFadden, Bush and Jones would be by him before he even sets up a block. Enough with Lito Shepard people. He didn’t do diddly squat when he was in here during the pre-season, why would we want to see him back? Our young corners going to need to learn sooner or later. Get them some playing time. Finally, all of the TO talk has stopped. TO is over rated, over the hill and not over his injury. He would have limited our young WRs from getting their experience. Last thing we need are for these WRs to learn from a guy like TO or Randy Moss. Total unprofessionals.

  210. redshirt Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    gotta promote Tonga bruddah….brings a dimension you dont have…a FB!
    **********************

    Dude, you do realize that up to this point McFadden is #1 in rushing as are the Raiders as a whole?

    Not saying Tonga isn’t a good blocker or could help the team, but you act as if not having him on the team so far this season has hurt us.

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