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Shaughnessy, Johnson and Gordon out; Reece questionable

Coach Hue Jackson said Friday before boarding a bus to the airport that defensive end Matt Shaughnessy, cornerback Chris Johnson and tight end Richard Gordon will not play Sunday against the Houston Texans.
Fullback Marcel Reece (ankle) is questionable, which passes as a mild surprise, given he has not practiced all week.
Manase Tonga said he received all the reps in practice Friday and that he is traveling with the team to Houston, while the seven other practice squad players remain behind.
That’s a sign that Jackson is contemplating signing Tonga from the practice squad at some point before the game if he feels as if Reece can’t play.
Rock Cartwright and Michael Bush are other options to replace Reece and Gordon, who filled in for Reece last week against the New England Patriots.
Also, Jackson confirmed that the Raiders worked out veteran defensive lineman Trevor Pryce on Thursday, but the Raiders did not sign Pryce.
Jackson isn’t ruling out signing Pryce at a later date. For now, the Raiders are going to rely upon Trevor Scott and Jarvis Moss to pick up the slack in Shaughnessy’s absence.

I shall post more later. Filling in for beat writer Jerry McDonald today, as he writes his advance for Sunday’s game and packs for the trip to Houston.

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  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Well, to me it seems like Al handicaps the defense Brien with what he insists on playing.
    ___________________
    Davis handicaps everythang with what he insists!!!

    Print that.

    Now mind you,of we win that’s his fault too
    it goes both ways.

    Go Raiders

  • Seymour Bush

    A little recap from the other day that S&B PA did so admirably:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    October 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Anyone know anything about the 2011 Houston Texans?

    ++++++++++++++++

    Zone blocking to perfection on offense. Schaub has a quick release. Arian Foster is a beast. Missing the second best WR in the league right now though. Can stack the box against Foster & hope Routt/Chekwa can run with their 2nd/3rd guys.

    Defense switched to the 3-4 this year. Remarkably smooth transition. Mario Williams, Antonio Smith and JJ Watt are nightmares. Secondary can be thrown on still; missing a starting CB
    =================================================

    Excellent excellent break down! Schaub might be one of the most over looked Q’s in the league. The last few years he is always at the top in passing stats. At the time they needed to make a decision My dad thought Atlanta should have kept Schaub and got rid of Vick. In hindsight they probably should have. Schaub is that good. So you have a very potent passing attack, and last years number one rusher. And I did say number one rusher. So, how are they not a playoff team?

    Easy. Their defense has been more than suspect. Especially the pass defense. Well, that’s now all changed. They got rid of the defensive staff and brought in Wade Phillips. Yeah, that Wade Phillips. Now, I know what you guys are thinking: Wade Phillips is just a buff, good looking, educated version of Jamista Brown with good teeth. Phillips might be a downer as far as a head coach goes, but he has always been a very good DC. And as S&BPA has pointed out, he made a very seamless transition from an even to an odd defense.

  • Method To My Madness

    196.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Well, to me it seems like Al handicaps the defense Brien with what he insists on playing.

    ******************

    I agree

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    On the plus side, we’ve got some fuk’n dynamite on offense.
    I really like that little guy Ford and now we have Moore to complement him.

    The OL is average but working well together.
    The real big question there is the quarterback who manages it well when everything is going good but has a release that is just fuk’n slow.

  • Method To My Madness

    200.Kirk Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    We have a terrible defense that is missing two starters and playing on the road.

    I have a bad feeling about this.

    ***************************

    Actually defense is having a real run stuffer start…yes we are good shape

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    Good news!

    The game WILL be on here in SO-CAL. KCBS ch. 2 @ 10:00am

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    In a pre-season game some color guy showed the difference between Tom Brady’s release time and that of Campbell.
    It was something like Brady 3.5 seconds and Campbell 4.5 seconds.

  • Seymour Bush

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Passing league and yet we get gashed on the run?
    ================================================

    Uh, yes and yes. How does that make you a winner. Or are you saying it isn’t a passing league? It’s a passing league and we still get gashed on the run. I broke this down a few days ago. You guys blame our DT’s for everything which is ridiculous. Our defense is designed to have the Dline tie up guys and the LB’s to come and clean up. What happens is the LB’s don’t clean up and RB’s bust into the 3rd level. Which means it is going to be a big play. A very big play.

  • DeuceDeuce

    It takes 11 to stop the run.

    It takes 11 to stop the pass.

  • Method To My Madness

    206.909RaiderLifer Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Good news!

    The game WILL be on here in SO-CAL. KCBS ch. 2 @ 10:00am

    *********************

    Great news cuz pops stays in Gardena so he gets to see it

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    201.r8dercain Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    Well, to me it seems like Al handicaps the defense Brien with what he insists on playing.
    ___________________
    Davis handicaps everythang with what he insists!!!

    Print that.

    Now mind you,of we win that’s his fault too
    it goes both ways.

    Go Raiders

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    R8 what the fuk does that mean?!
    Have you been drinking brother?

  • Method To My Madness

    209.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    It takes 11 to stop the run.

    It takes 11 to stop the pass.

    ********************

    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

  • Seymour Bush

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    In a pre-season game some color guy showed the difference between Tom Brady’s release time and that of Campbell.
    It was something like Brady 3.5 seconds and Campbell 4.5 seconds.
    ====================================================

    I would be if you really had a clock on Brady every play, he gets the rock out of his mits in under 3 seconds probably 60% of the time.

  • DeuceDeuce

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    209.DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    It takes 11 to stop the run.

    It takes 11 to stop the pass.

    ********************

    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

    —-

    That the players need to be good is a given. Shouldnt have to be clarified.

  • LA to TheBay

    And When Hendu gets many snaps vs Texans and we bottle up Foster

    ——–

    I’d love to see Big John get more snaps but you gotta wonder if he can hold up long term.

    We really need a beast of a NT next year.

    Wonder if we’ll be active at the trade deadline. I heard a rumor Al was trying to get Wilfork and ended up with Big Sey instead.

    I know we won’t be able to get Wilfork but maybe we can pick up a proven run stopper.

  • DeuceDeuce

    That being said, 11 mediocre players on the same page can stop the run better than only 4 good ones.

  • Seymour Bush

    OK, so how do you beat the Texans? Their run defense is pretty suspect. Especially when you have a running game like ours. Their pass defense is actually pretty good. If we can limit giving up the big plays to them in their run game, and get a few ourselves, we should be in good shape in this game. If it turns into a shoot out, it could be a problem.

  • LA to TheBay

    I’m a known malcontent?
    I like that.
    You bet I am. I’m pizzed about morons like you.

    —————-

    Ouch. England, take it easy. I’ve had all kinds of colorful semi-fiction banned by the mods.

    LA to TheBay = also a known malcontent.

  • DeuceDeuce

    We need to stop showing that we can just ‘compete’.

  • DeuceDeuce

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    OK, so how do you beat the Texans? Their run defense is pretty suspect. Especially when you have a running game like ours. Their pass defense is actually pretty good. If we can limit giving up the big plays to them in their run game, and get a few ourselves, we should be in good shape in this game. If it turns into a shoot out, it could be a problem.

    —-

    I think there is 3 guys that we need to worry about.

    Foster, Daniels and Casey. If we can contain them we will win.

  • YoungAmerican

    Texans 34 Raiders 21

    McFadden sees the ball less than 20 times because the Raiders give up an early lead.

  • Seymour Bush

    Good matchups this week: Their Dline v Our Oline. Their RB’s v our LB’s: right there that could hurt.
    Our depth at WR v Their DB’s.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Hey any guy who goes LA to the Bay is going the right way.
    Here’s to you brother.

  • Master Beeecham

    Was that an earlier Krappy “King of the Trolls” sighting?

    The old fool loves to waddle into his precious blog but as soon as I show up, he heads for the hills!

    Never seen an overweight old goat move that fast. Love it!

  • Method To My Madness

    221.YoungAmerican Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    Texans 34 Raiders 21

    McFadden sees the ball less than 20 times because the Raiders give up an early lead.

    ************************

    wow

  • LA to TheBay

    Seymour Bush Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    In a pre-season game some color guy showed the difference between Tom Brady’s release time and that of Campbell.
    It was something like Brady 3.5 seconds and Campbell 4.5 seconds.
    ====================================================

    I would be if you really had a clock on Brady every play, he gets the rock out of his mits in under 3 seconds probably 60% of the time.

    ———–

    Wrong and wrong.

    They were comparing Brees to Campbell and noted that taller QBs take longer to get the ball out of their hands because, well, they have more arm. Don’t believe difference was a full second either and I don’t think it takes 3 seconds to throw a ball.

  • Seymour Bush

    DeuceDeuce Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    I think there is 3 guys that we need to worry about.

    Foster, Daniels and Casey. If we can contain them we will win.
    =============================================

    Owen Daniels has had some wind knocked out of his sails after tearing up a knee. Schaub is just deadly back there tho. We might want to limit the blizting on him and make him earn his yardage. Their Oline is a solid unit. This is one game where our Dline is going to have to beat their Oline without additional blitzing help.

  • J Hill

    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

    —————————————————

    Ok, now we are making progress.

    FS
    MLB
    SS
    RCB

    Those 4 positions don’t have good players right now.

    Some would argue that we are not getting good play from the DT and DE positions.

    We need better players in obvious positions, so it shouldn’t be a surprise to see this unit giving up points.

  • DeuceDeuce

    weekend. out.

  • LA to TheBay

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    Hey any guy who goes LA to the Bay is going the right way.
    Here’s to you brother.

    ———

    Cheers.

    Though it was more like LA to the Bay, back to LA, to all over the place to TX, to LA and now wherever the job takes me.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    222.Seymour Bush Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    Good matchups this week: Their Dline v Our Oline. Their RB’s v our LB’s: right there that could hurt.
    Our depth at WR v Their DB’s.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You think?
    In the Jets game I put real money on the Raiders.
    Why not? The Jets were 28th against the run and their center was out

    In the NE game it looked indeed like a passing team was going to take advantage of our weakness-the run.

    If we win this game-and we can-it’s because Jackson is on the ball.

  • Method To My Madness

    228.J Hill Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

    —————————————————

    Ok, now we are making progress.

    FS
    MLB
    SS
    RCB

    Those 4 positions don’t have good players right now.

    Some would argue that we are not getting good play from the DT and DE positions.

    We need better players in obvious positions, so it shouldn’t be a surprise to see this unit giving up points.

    **************************

    DT’s are most responsible when run defense sucks…there are the front line and the biggest dudes…and opur DTs…especially the starters stink vs the run

  • Tjbwall

    J Hill Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

    —————————————————

    Ok, now we are making progress.

    FS
    MLB
    SS
    RCB

    Those 4 positions don’t have good players right now.

    Some would argue that we are not getting good play from the DT and DE positions.

    We need better players in obvious positions, so it shouldn’t be a surprise to see this unit giving up points.
    ==================================================

    True….you can also add the fact that we have 2 De playing OLB right now too -.-

  • Seymour Bush

    J Hill Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

    —————————————————

    Ok, now we are making progress.

    FS
    MLB
    SS
    RCB
    ===================================

    If Mike Huff can come back and play well, that would help. I think we are going to be OK at RC and Tyvon has played better than most in here think. Our perennial problem seems to be at MLB. I think opponents have seen something in So-longo Mc Lame’s game, that they trick him into covering the wrong gap. Then you see a 230 pounder with a head of steam heading for the safeties. Which is never good.

  • J Hill

    We really need a beast of a NT next year.

    —————————————————–

    We need a beast anywhere on that Dline.

    Seymour and Henderson are OLD mayne. And they look OLD at least half the time they are out there.

    Houston needs to back to the DT rotation and Bryant should be playing base DE.

    Moss and ShoNasty have RDE taken care of for a while and they look pretty damn good.

    Yeah, you’re right. Beast DT should be our rd 1 target in the upcoming draft.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    They were comparing Brees to Campbell and noted that taller QBs take longer to get the ball out of their hands because, well, they have more arm. Don’t believe difference was a full second either and I don’t think it takes 3 seconds to throw a ball.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Well, I sat there and watched him clock it. I believe it was 3.5 for Brady on that particular pass and 4.7 for Campbell on a similar pass.

    The knocks against Campbell have always been that he takes too long to read a defense and has a slow release.

    He has improved his speed on reading a defense this year but not his release.

  • alex7

    Getting ready to hear:

    “Draw play to Foster, and a HUGE HOLE on the left side! Another big gain for Foster. Jarvis Moss went WAAAAY up the field there, again, leaving a crater-size running hole for Foster.”

    “First and 10. Foster, off-tackle left side, and AGAIN the undersized Trevor Scott is PANCAKED! 9 yard gain for Foster.”

  • Tjbwall

    J Hill Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    It takes good players to do that…you cant just throw out any 11

    —————————————————

    Ok, now we are making progress.

    FS
    MLB
    SS
    RCB

    Those 4 positions don’t have good players right now.

    Some would argue that we are not getting good play from the DT and DE positions.
    ===============================================

    Short Term Fix =
    Fs – convert Branch
    Mlb – Slap Mcclain
    Ss – Mm34
    Rcb – Dvd,Chekwa,Cj improve or use fusion technique
    Dt – Hendu/Houston
    De – Seymour/Schaughnessy/Kelly
    3rd – Moss/Wimb outside

  • Seymour Bush

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    DT’s are most responsible when run defense sucks…
    =================================================

    yes and no. If the Dline is getting flat out blown off the ball then yes. But if you are expecting a DT to beat a double team and then make the tackle at the LOS and then do that again and again and again, you need to put down the Xbox you;ve been playing with that 4 year old.

  • YoungAmerican

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    221.YoungAmerican Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
    Texans 34 Raiders 21

    McFadden sees the ball less than 20 times because the Raiders give up an early lead.

    ************************

    wow

    ———-

    I had a feeling the Raiders would lose against the Bills and Pats and I didn’t say anything before either game. I figure maybe if I say something this time I’ll end up being wrong…

  • LA to TheBay

    The knocks against Campbell have always been that he takes too long to read a defense and has a slow release.

    He has improved his speed on reading a defense this year but not his release.

    ———-

    This, we agree on.

  • J Hill

    Agreed, SB!

    Linebackers have to get more involved from an impact standpoint.

    If we can get Seymour, Kelly, and Henderson on the field at the same time, the LBs should have ZERO excuse for not making plays.

  • LA to TheBay

    Out.

    Be good.

  • Seymour Bush

    alex7 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Getting ready to hear:

    “Draw play to Foster, and a HUGE HOLE on the left side! Another big gain for Foster. Jarvis Moss went WAAAAY up the field there, again, leaving a crater-size running hole for Foster.”

    “First and 10. Foster, off-tackle left side, and AGAIN the undersized Trevor Scott is PANCAKED! 9 yard gain for Foster.”
    =================================================

    If you actually watch tape it would be: “Foster up the middle, breaks free…….”

    Next play: “Foster up the middle, breaks free…….”
    Next play: “Foster up the middle, breaks free…….”

  • Method To My Madness

    237.alex7 Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Getting ready to hear:

    “Draw play to Foster, and a HUGE HOLE on the left side! Another big gain for Foster. Jarvis Moss went WAAAAY up the field there, again, leaving a crater-size running hole for Foster.”

    “First and 10. Foster, off-tackle left side, and AGAIN the undersized Trevor Scott is PANCAKED! 9 yard gain for Foster.”

    *******************

    A elementary school bruh? Come on Alex i aint sending that there

  • J Hill

    “Draw play to Foster, and a HUGE HOLE on the left side!

    ——————————————————-

    I’ve repeatedly voiced my concern over our nickle defensive line and LBs to stop the run.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Englandraoder I don’t even wanna go there bruh
    just sayin

  • PlunkforHOF

    What up Raider fans and others! Time to dial up CODE BLACK again this Sunday!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    J Hill Says:
    October 7th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
    Agreed, SB!

    Linebackers have to get more involved from an impact standpoint.

    If we can get Seymour, Kelly, and Henderson on the field at the same time, the LBs should have ZERO excuse for not making plays.
    _______________
    we’ve done this an they just run at the edges.
    That’s where the LB’s have to make a play.
    An there not so far

  • alex7

    2012 Raider 3-4 Defense front 7.

    DEs Sho, Seymour, Houston
    NT 1st round draft pick
    ILB McClain, Goethel, 4th round pick
    OLB Wimbley, Groves

    Let’s put 8 years of bottom-5 run-defense scheme to bed, already.