Bill Soliday on Al Davis
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 10th, 2011 at 8:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.
With all that has been written about Al Davis the last few days, maybe you missed this one.
Here’s a link to a remembrance on Patch.com by Bill Soliday, who dealt with Davis dating back to 1965 starting with the Fremont News-Register through the Hayward Daily Review through the Oakland Tribune/Bay Area News Group etc., etc. etc.
A terrific story, and if you’re ever lucky enough to run into Bill, it only scratches the surface of what he knows about the Raiders.
A unique totally local perspective. Check it out.
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October 10th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Raiders
October 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Bill Soliday, huh?
OK.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I thought Bill Soliday was dead……He and Dave Newhouse used to crack me up talking about the old days with Raiders. Back then players trusted the Media much more than now. And for good reason…..
October 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Great story from Bill another legend
October 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I thought Bill Soliday was dead
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lol.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
tj, do you have the balls to answer me tonight ?
October 10th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
tj, is the week to joke about people not with us anymore? You classless POS. If somebody said that about AL when he was living you would have a tizzy fit.
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Priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I thought Bill Soliday was dead
October 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Sorry don’t know who Bill Soliday is…but…nice story!
October 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
You might not believe this but I had that same conversation with Mr Davis outside the lockeroom in the Port of Oakland as he was starting to leave the facility. I asked him was there anyway that the Raiders could stay? I was scared what he would say but he just stopped and stood there and looked at directly at me and said something to the affect that he wish there was but it was now too late. And then added you keep rooting for us or soemthing like that and got inte back of a powder blue Cadillac and left.
While I was extremely hurt by it I thought how cool it was that he would actually stop and explain to me that he had to leave eventhough he wanted to stay. But that was Mr Davis. I hated it because I spent a lot of time at that facility watching practice in a tree on the side of the practice field. And would often hide in the lockerroom after practice when he would come in I would hide in the phone room where I knew he wouldn’t go. Loved talking to the players after. It’s where I first met Marcus Allen and Howie Long.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
LMFAO!
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Priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
I spent a lot of time at that facility watching practice in a tree on the side of the practice field
October 10th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
And we dont!
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Priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
You might not believe this
October 10th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Bill Soliday was probably the bets beat writer the Raiders ever had here. He was also a funny guy I hadn’t heard from or about him since his retirement years ago.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Wow, Cork is right. Very good article. Wished Billy would post the original post he had on AD.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
tj, you said FORD would be the key yo beating the Texans. How funny that it was your boy DHB that stepped up instead! You defy even a broke clock being right twice a day!
Congrats!
October 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Raiderduck says:
Don’t forget )Pryor) has two AWESOME QB teachers with him (Jackson and Saunders), and a veteran who defines “Professionalism” (Campbell).
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So did Kyle Boller. Heck, Boller even had QB guru Tedford at Cal. Doesn’t change the fact that if you struggle with accuracy and reads in college, you’re going to struggle in the NFL.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
You sick demented little freak!
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Priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
And would often hide in the lockerroom after practice when he would come in I would hide in the phone room where I knew he wouldn’t go. Loved talking to the players after. It’s where I first met Marcus Allen and Howie Long.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
It is amazing how time flies but it was great watching a legend do his thing for years and it seems so damn strange that he’s actually gone. It’s very hard to believe truth be told I still haven’t accepted it.
Well Adios Go Raiders!!
If you can make the game do so, it’ll be one for the ages…
October 10th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
What a shock. priest used to stalk Al Davis.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Apparently tj fell out of that tree and bumped his noggin for good!
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Priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
I spent a lot of time at that facility watching practice in a tree on the side of the practice field.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Priest, anything on funeral arrangements?
October 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Excerpt from the Bill Soliday interview-
“When he took the Raiders away to Los Angeles, I remember standing outside a courtroom in Monterey during a break in the eminent domain case, telling him how I fervently believed he was doing the wrong thing.
He was taking a rare beacon of light from a city that needed light and a passion to fight back so much. He was taking the hearts of thousands of Oakland kids who were looking for something to believe in, something to identify with and he was putting it in a city 400 miles to the south that did not deserve this blue collar team…
Al Davis stood there and explained, in essence, that it couldn’t be helped. He had been double-crossed by the politicians. He could not back down. He, of all people, could not back down.
And yet, there was a sad look on his face — one of the rare times I saw that look — knowing that what I had said had a ring of truth to it”.
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I hope this helps cement what people like me and Brien, and Priest, and several others have been saying about the impact that moving the Raiders to LA had on the fan base here.
Bear with me as I go on a journey with you back into time and speak for thousands of my fellow Oakland/East Bay natives.
Soliday’s exact words were that it was
“taking the hearts of thousands of Oakland kids who were looking for something to believe in.”
Well guess who many of those thousands of kids are now rooting for? You guessed it, The 49ers. Because they were the only Bay Area team during the development of most of those kids who are now grown adults with families. Furthermore the 49ers were winning Championships during those years.
So these kids that were looking for “something to believe in” started rooting for the next best thing in their eyes…the 49ers.
When the Raiders returned, there were many people who looked at it like an estranged father who finally comes home after walking out on his family.
There was anger, suspicion, mistrust, and fear. Fear of being left again!
Yes, when we were winning at the turn of the millennium there were sold out stadiums and merchandise was selling. But many of THOSE were the BANDWAGON fans. The Front runners. The ones who just became fans of the Raiders because it seemed cool. But they had know clue of what the Raiders were all about.
But the original Raider Nation, the faithful, have ALWAYS been here. And now there is a NEW generation of children who were old enough to remember the Raiders when they returned in 1995. But they had to learn about the Raiders, the tradition, and what they meant to the city of Oakland and the East Bay all over again!
That was 16 years ago and now THEY are the FUTURE of the Raider Nation.
Like I said a couple of threads ago…The biggest mistake Al Davis made was leaving Oakland and moving to Los Angeles in the first place.
This article just cemented that even further.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Maybe some of you guys know each other with the jokes and teasing. I just know that I have stood by this team through thick and thin for 40 years, and I learned something from Al Davis. I want to win when I compete. I hate to lose. The only thing that matters in professional sports is winning. I believe things happen for a reason. Yes, it’s sad that Al passed away. He finally put together a respectable team after 8 long years, and won’t be here to see it played out. I know one thing though: I will root my heart out every game in Oakland and I hope all true Raider fans show up and make the Oakland Coliseum the home field advantage it used to be in the good old days: a place where the opponent didn’t enjoy to come, a place that was truly something magical, where the Raiders won almost every game. It’s also time to let Mark Davis know that the Bay Area is where the Raiders belong, and we need to fill that stadium to show him where the Raiders belong!
October 10th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Would be nice if they updated the stadium and made it a little more fun to be there.
Not good when a home TV has higher quality than your stadium’s “jumbotron”.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Residents of Oakland, if you want the Raiders to remain, you are going to need to vote out your city council & mayor.
You are going to have to vote in quite a few more members that will not oppress your businessmen and businesswomen in the community from the thousanaires to the billionares.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Tj is right,Bill Soliday was the BEST,imo,beat writer the East Bay has had regarding the Raiders!Before I had a computer,I couldnt wait for the Sunday Sports Page,right to the Raider info,and Mr Solidays predictions of each game,in DETAIL,and was mostly right,HATED when he thought the Raiders may lose!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
I doubt even half of us in here live in Oakland. But the speech was stirring nonetheless
October 10th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I hope the Raiders move to L.A.
The team was much better when they were in L.A.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
# alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
I doubt even half of us in here live in Oakland.
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Speak for yourself buddy. I’m from the half that was raised here, and is STILL here. No other place will EVER be to the Raiders what Oakland is.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I speak for…the…half.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
# Kirk Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I hope the Raiders move to L.A.
The team was much better when they were in L.A.
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Here is some simple logic for you. How many Superbowls have the Raiders won? Answer 3
How many Superbowls have the Raiders appeared in? Answer 5
Now how many times did that happen in LA as opposed to Oakland.
How many division titles have the Raiders won in Oakland as opposed to LA?
How about AFC Championships?
When you finally figure out the answers to that, please mute yourself for at least 48 hours. You obviously have no clue whatsoever, what you are talking about.
It’s the ignorant bandwagon fans like these that have no understanding of Raider history whatsoever that I’m talking about.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
# alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I speak for…the…half.
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Half of what…..?
Half brained?
Half Baked?
Half the number of chromosomes of normal people?
It figures by the majority of your posts in here.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Kirk Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I hope the Raiders move to L.A.
The team was much better when they were in L.A.
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You are obviously very young. In the late 60’s, 70’s & 80’s they were GOLD. The early Raider teams were the absolute BEST! The game was never over until the whistle blew. You always knew we were going to win, somehow in some cases. The Raiders And Oakland are of the same coin – two sides. The Raiders belong in Oakland and nowhere else.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/887098-mark-davis-raiders-keeping-oakland-under-davis-family-control-is-nfls-best-bet
Keeping the Raiders in the Davis family and keeping the Raiders in Oakland.
Nice to know there will be no fire sales and moving vans in the middle of the night.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
I agree! It is the “Oakland Raiders”…anywhere else is irrelevant! And no disrespect to any who have seen them at War Memorial, but The Raiders and Oakland are synonymous!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Mark Davis will spearhead a new stadium in Oakland. Amy will step up a level, and all the other behind the scene operations will be good. That I trust.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
armchair is so serious! takes this ish seriously! haha.
kirk, way to stir the pot
Now everyone’s on their high horse.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Oakland is kinda dull. The new stadium will be elsewhere. Oakland’s had their chance. Local government doesn’t help. People don’t show.
Time to move on.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Who’s on a high horse? I respect everyone’s opinion in here…I just agree that the Raiders belong here in Oakland!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Al Davis is synonymous with Oakland Raiders. Los Angeles was a temporary home. I was at the Los Angeles Coliseum in 1983. That was no home crowd watching a soon to be Super Bowl Champion. Los Angeles has very few true Raider fans.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Now that Big Al is gone. RIP
We are free to strongly pursue Dennis Thurman for the Defensive Coordinator role.
Defensive philosophy change!!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Oakland is kinda dull. The new stadium will be elsewhere. Oakland’s had their chance. Local government doesn’t help. People don’t show.
Time to move on.
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The City of Oakland may be very sypathetic to the remaining Davis family, and Mark and Amy could rejuvinate a fevor like the early days and we could see a Raider Revival. The fan base is in reviaval mode right now. Do not bet against this.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
So, Richard Seymour is tied for 3rd in the NFL with 5 sacks and McFaddden is the leading rusher with 519 yards on 91 carries with 3 rushing touchdowns! Go Raiders!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Who’s on a high horse? I respect everyone’s opinion in here…I just agree that the Raiders belong here in Oakland!
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Double agree!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Al Davis was a master strategist. Anyone thinking or assuming he didn’t have the future already mapped out didn’t understand Coach Al Davis. I’m sure the tax situation was addressed long ago and I’m also convinced that the new GM was already named by AD in the “Futures” plan. I would be surprised to find out that he probably has the next 4 years projections for the draft already laid out too. Go to the bank that the “Futures” plan was completed long ago and all that is required now is execution. I also believe that he hand picked and nurtured Hue Jackson because he knew the end was coming & he wanted the right guy in the right place. Coach Al Davis didn’t leave things up to chance. You should already know that.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I do remember Los Angeles bringing in 90,000 plus to some Raider games. As a kid looking at the Coliseum, that was impressive. Raiders/Niners 1991.
The Davis’ will do whatever’s best for them, be it Oakland or NorCal or So.Cal. So long as they’re on tv, 75% of their fan base will be happy.
I hope it’s somewhere new in Northern Cali. Change the scenery a bit, reinvigorate the experience, make it better for families.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
armchair is so serious! takes this ish seriously! haha.
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Very serious buddy. You have no idea. You see I am an OAKLAND RAIDER. It’s in my blood. It’s in every fiber of my deoxyribonucleic acid…
in other words my DNA.
This ain’t just a game to me and all my real Raider brothers. This is a way of life.
It’s something that many of you simply cannot and will not ever understand.
And I like it that way.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
I remember being told,”You’re a Raider fan because you were born in L.A, but the Raiders now reside back in Oakland”! Become a Dolphin fan, you live in Miami…
Never that!
Once a Raider, always a Raider.
As much as I love L.A, I wouldn’t want the great fans that support the Raiders in Oakland, have their beloved team taken away. The capital of Raider nation is Oakland and thats how it should be because our fans are the best, despite the perception ppl have of us.
Go Raiders!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Anyways…goodnight Nation!!!
See you AMers in the morning!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Oakland is kinda dull. The new stadium will be elsewhere. Oakland’s had their chance. Local government doesn’t help. People don’t show.
Time to move on.
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That is bulletin board material. Watch as the revival begins and all the good it will reap. The Raider Revival has begun and it will be very evident on Sunday, and the City of Oakland will take notice. It will be very evident on Sunday and the City of Oakland will take notice…………………
October 10th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
# alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Oakland is kinda dull. The new stadium will be elsewhere. Oakland’s had their chance. Local government doesn’t help. People don’t show.
Time to move on.
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Like I said, this guy’s got only half the chromosomes of normal people. He’s clueless, and useless to the Raider Nation.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
If you are a Raider season ticket holder, please check your e-mail for a very special message from the Raiders. DO NOT WAIT. DO IT NOW! you will be pleasantly surprised. It will be a time sensitive message so DO NOT DELAY CHECKING.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
# alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Oakland is kinda dull. The new stadium will be elsewhere. Oakland’s had their chance. Local government doesn’t help. People don’t show.
Time to move on.
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Go root for the Niners. Flaming Red seems like more your style anyway.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
you’re not a Raider cyborg! It’s most definitely not in your DNA. Is your life really that wrapped up on a group of men playing with a ball?
What other aspects of life are you giving up to accommodate the time for this?
October 10th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I do remember Los Angeles bringing in 90,000 plus to some Raider games. As a kid looking at the Coliseum, that was impressive. Raiders/Niners 1991.
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I was at that game. The Raiders won 12-6, and it was special. It was the final game I witnessed in the LA Coliseum.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
51.JB Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
If you are a Raider season ticket holder, please check your e-mail for a very special message from the Raiders. DO NOT WAIT. DO IT NOW! you will be pleasantly surprised. It will be a time sensitive message so DO NOT DELAY CHECKING.
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Already taken care of, friend. It’s going to be an emotional day THIS SUNDAY at sold out O.CO!
October 10th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
WHEN DOES CUTLER’S CONTRACT RUN OUT
His pocket presense and big arm/quick release/ability to throw a streak accurately constantly makes me question Jason Campbell
October 10th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
# alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
you’re not a Raider cyborg! It’s most definitely not in your DNA. Is your life really that wrapped up on a group of men playing with a ball?
What other aspects of life are you giving up to accommodate the time for this?
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Hahaha….You fool.
Clueless fool. GTFOH.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Tjbwall,
lot of fans wondered why Al passed on Cutler and Roethlisberger in the drafts. Both are deemed prototypical Davis QBs. Both have won playoff games.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
nah Armchair, I’m comfy here. Think I’ll stay a bit. Watching “The Quantum Activist.” Ever seen it? Good life/death/God/consciousness stuff.
Deeper than men in tights playing a football game. Just a little deeper.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
And I still say you’re not a cyborg
It’s not in your DNA. You choose it.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Being from Los Angeles, and growing up an L.A. Raiders fan, it took me several years, but I know now that the Raiders belong in Oakland. Oakland deserves it more than LA might. Most football fans in LA don’t even want a pro football team. That is why it has been 15 years since they had a team there, and it will be a few more.
Like MiamiRaider said, once a Raider, Always a Raider.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
beach Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
51.JB Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
If you are a Raider season ticket holder, please check your e-mail for a very special message from the Raiders. DO NOT WAIT. DO IT NOW! you will be pleasantly surprised. It will be a time sensitive message so DO NOT DELAY CHECKING.
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Already taken care of, friend. It’s going to be an emotional day THIS SUNDAY at sold out O.CO!
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GOOD! This will be a memorable event – a true one of a kind. Sold out houses like this remind me of the old days back in the 60’s & 70’s. I’m sitting on the East side now and would prefer the West side but couldn’t get the seats I wanted. Settled for 30 yd line, 2nd deck under the overhang. The nice thing I do like is when I tape the games and re-watch them, it almost looks like a new game (from a West side perspective). See you there. IT WILL BE SPECIAL.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
true true Texguy. LA is apathetic. Too many other things to do there. Not so in Oakland.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
nah Armchair, I’m comfy here. Think I’ll stay a bit. Watching “The Quantum Activist.” Ever seen it? Good life/death/God/consciousness stuff.
Deeper than men in tights playing a football game. Just a little deep
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I see. So you’re a pseudo educated fool.
Trust me, Dr. Amit Goswami wouldn’t want to have anything to do with a dimwit such as yourself either.
Mental midget.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Alex7,
I am one of them. I cant help but to imagine a Cutler with a decent O-Line and DMAC..
It was hard for me to watch Cutler toss it around like that
October 10th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
#1 blog rule:
DON’T FEED THE MONKEYS.
TROLLS BE GONE – “POOF”!
October 10th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
37.alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Oakland is kinda dull. The new stadium will be elsewhere. Oakland’s had their chance. Local government doesn’t help. People don’t show.
Time to move on.
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so the blog idiot speaks again. Armchair dont argue with this thing on here. it bets against the team damn near every week yet it claims its a fan. u have some in here who just like to start sh!t. u get some of these fans that dont respect the history of oakland with the raiders. no need to argue with the ignorant punks. there is 2 many on here that run this blog.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
armchair,
I’m watching it. That’s all. The other stuff you said was just pointless and mean
And yeah, I don’t claim to have Raider DNA running in my blood. Makes me sane and balanced, not pseudo anything.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
armond, you can respect history all you want. How does that change the FACT that the Raiders have been in talks with sharing a stadium with the 49ers in Santa Clara.
The facts are a stadium in Oakland simply isn’t as lucrative as one elsewhere, so business people and the NFL will likely not help out unless the new stadium is elsewhere.
Simple really.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I bet against the Raiders vs the Bills, Patriots, and Texans. Almost swept.
It’s ok to be rational and yet enjoy the Raiders.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Last time Oakland’s city council decided to be business friendly, all of the companies operating at the port left town, leaving Oakland with scarce employment opportunities for its citizens. Do everything you can to appease businesses, they’ll still screw you. Government might as well stick up for the people.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Everything that’s “simple” somehow turns out not to be so.
Which businesses are backing the Raiders’ move to Santa Clara? How solvent are they? Who’s to say they don’t go belly up in a few years? Who’s to say San Jose’s job market doesn’t go to schit? Who’s to say San Jose isn’t as bad as Oakland in a decade?
October 10th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
those cities be worse in time, but right now, the people with the $$ are in cities other than Oakland. So the pull is away from Oakland.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
NCAA banned any kind of TD celebrations whatsoever. Seemed “simple”. Then suddenly, a punter gets a TD on a fake negated for putting his arm in the air while running to the end zone. I guess the rulemakers, with their simple idea that “made sense”, never envisioned this. Keep an open mind.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
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so the blog idiot speaks again. Armchair dont argue with this thing on here. it bets against the team damn near every week yet it claims its a fan. u have some in here who just like to start sh!t. u get some of these fans that dont respect the history of oakland with the raiders. no need to argue with the ignorant punks. there is 2 many on here that run this blog.
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Armomd there are several on here who come for one reason only for contraversy……….period
If they can’t start a fight they soon go away….
October 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
forgot a might in there
October 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Just how much $$ do these companies have? How solvent are they long term? In 5 years? What company can you point to today and guarantee they’ll be solvent in a decade? Good luck finding one that isn’t some type of military or prison contractor. The rest are vulnerable.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
tj,
it’s called debate. Not controversy. It’s good for our brains. And fun. It’s one of the driving forces of sports.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
My point is, I’d be hesitant to offer private companies some sort of “god” like status. None of them are on as solid ground as they used to be.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
The L.A. stadium movers and shakers are billionaires. Those guys don’t go broke.
And yes, you make financial decisions not knowing how things will look 20 years down the road. But you still have to make them based no the date you have.
And right now, the money is outside of Oakland, not within it. And teams need money.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
REPOST
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If you are a Raider season ticket holder, please check your e-mail for a very special message from the Raiders. DO NOT WAIT. DO IT NOW! you will be pleasantly surprised. It will be a time sensitive message so DO NOT DELAY CHECKING.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
“movers and shakers”. lol. Really? In the age of the bailout?
October 10th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
selfishly, I’d like them to stay in Northern California. Makes a great trip. Need to improve the stadium experience though.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Alex, whatever “movers and shakers” there are in free trade today, they’re not in America.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
come on Sully. Bailout or not, those billionaires remained billionaires through it all. In fact, most of those top CEOs have received raises in the last 5 years. You know this.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
The first time you see a bad incident in Santa Clara, you’ll want to move the team again.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
You can move it to Oklahoma. Nice, wholesome family environment. What’s that? Somebody blew up the stadium while 60k people were in it, because the Raiders donated to a political candidate who’s pro choice? Darn. Makes Oakland seem relatively safe.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
I just want the surrounding area to be more worthy of family $ spent there. Oakland certainly isn’t. In and Out is the main attraction there right now
Teams know they need family $. It isn’t the drunk, single, college-aged kid that’s important to the bottom-line. Just hard to picture the new stadium being there in Oakland.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
you rightfully blast Amy Trask and whoever else is part of the problem of a world-wide-recognized team like the Raiders being bottom-10 in profit.
One logical fix proven by other owners is a better stadium in a better location.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Damn Alex you are really slinging the sh!t like an ape with rabes. WTF is your b!tch problem this evening? Why such a douche bag?
October 10th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
alex7 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
you rightfully blast Amy Trask and whoever else is part of the problem of a world-wide-recognized team like the Raiders being bottom-10 in profit.
One logical fix proven by other owners is a better stadium in a better location.
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Such as Jacksonville?
October 10th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
priest are u goin to the game this weekend? i havent been so exhausted after a win like i was sunday. cant imagine what this sunday will be like. btw i see u defending jc on these deep throws but he has to get better. that 1rst pass to chaz was just unacceptable. wide open with no pressure equals td. people say dhb cant get deep but thats false. he’s had db’s beat in every game but jc cant get it to him. dhb would have way better stats if it wasnt for jc. he is holding the offense back. he has missed way too many of those money plays man.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
umm, no, jacksonville did not build a better stadium in a better place for an already-existing team.
comparing the Raiders to an expansion team? Go to bed
October 10th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Ha ha ha. Of course Drexl brings up the one team worse than the Raiders financially.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Al may be gone, but his spinmeisters live forever.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
JC is a 7-year NFL veteran.
He is who he is. Raiders best chance of winning playoff games is running the ball and improving their zone D.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Actually, Alex, the college age frat guy is becoming the target market for sports teams. The money they’re willing to spend on alcohol is surpassing what families would spend. And the stadiums are jacking up alcohol prices to gouge them and their parents credit cards. That’s one of the reasons why there’s so many fights at games today.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
sullivan,
were you and I ever big pricks all these years while the Raiders were down?
Odd how ugly these dudes spew. Like we were doing something other than spitting truth the last 5 years.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Any hope of reprinting the Dave Newhouse article from 2009 on Carole Davis?
October 10th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Would it be a stretch for me to say that at least 90% of fights at NFL games have alcohol somehow involved?
October 10th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
lol, hadn’t seen it from that angle.
I like sitting near the 50 where the people who pay good $ sit at. Civil.
One time I sat up in the 300 area. Lady a few chairs away had the guy behind her throw up on her. Learned my lesson.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
All of the radio hosts after the Niners/Raiders slug fest, blaming the “thug culture”. I’d say about 10% of brawls at NFL games involve some type of gang or drug dispute, of course, most of that 10% being at Niner/Raider games. Nonetheless, it’s rare. But alcohol is involved in just about every one of them. Can’t blame alcohol, though. I guess businesses are powerful, Alex.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Well, some people don’t know how to act when they drink. Probably the same internet “tough guys” in here.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Alex, notice how defensive they are of Trask. We could be getting warm.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Armond trust me it’s not a defense it’s just what I see, no doubt he needs to get better the outabounds throws piss me off. But throwing deep is not easy and we have young WR’s also they have been hurt from one to the other which doesn’t allow a lot of time for reps. Trust me he will start hitting some of those he’s barely missing them now. Just afew adjustments and you’ll see that stuff start to pop.
I know you’re not much of a JC fan and Sunday he had me very upset but when I calmed down he was barely missing which tells he is trying to gage them and it takes time and reps. There is no shortcut they have to miss some to start hitting some. It’s early just wait you’ll see this take off…
October 10th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Alex, that huge brawl at the Niner/Raider game took place in the good seats.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Was that Chris Rock that mentioned alcohol is legal because it’s owned by white people, while weed is illegal because it’s not owned by them?
why’d you get in that fight? why’d you end up pregnant? why did you rape her? why did you punch her? why did you wake up there?
alcohol, #1 drug in the world.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
lol, probably because smart rich fans found suckers to buy pre-season tickets from them.
who pays near reg. season prices for a practice game?? (apologies if you did
)
October 10th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
JB thanks for the mention for those who are this is the first year I’m not.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Nope. I got mine free.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
tj,
why isn’t it early for Cam Newton and Steve Smith? Or Stafford and Calvin? Didn’t take Vick long in Philly. They’ve all played together as long or less time than JC and DHB have.
October 10th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Yeah. Campbell’s 7th year in the league.
“Give him time”.
Ha ha. My goodness.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Dalton and AJ Green aren’t struggling to hit it deep.
Is DHB or Chaz really THAT much faster or different than the receivers JC has had for 7 years now? Dang adjustments!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:01 am
Campbell: “Coach, I can’t hit these guys in stride! These receivers are just…odd! They run funny! Santana Moss did the same thing in Washington! It’s their fault!”
October 11th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Oh man! Terrelle Pryor is in the mix come wednesday……Yeah!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:04 am
I never aired this out earlier tonight.
How terrible was Lovie Smith’s end-of-the-game clock management?!?!
You’re down 11, and never even try a FG with time running out in the 4th? You just keep trying for a TD as time runs out?
What the heck is wrong with some of these coaches??
FG with about 20 seconds, try the onside. It’s not that difficult.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:06 am
priesttj better be excited for Pryor. Already told us he’s as good as Cam Newton.
No, really, he was serious.
Average to Bad passer in Big 10 is equivalent to record-breaking passer in SEC.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:22 am
I don’t know, I’m torn between LA and Oakland. Oakland seemed like a Raidertopia when I first went there to watch a game. The tailgating was off the hook compared to LA. The LA coliseum was a dump, big track between the stands and the field and then that little bleacher on the east side of the field. Bushleague. In Oakland the stands are at least closer to the field.
But its still embarassing when teams like seattle are getting new stadiums and the Radiers have dirt infield always a worry about missed FGs and injuries. I also remember monday night game against Denver one year and there were not even enough lights for the game it looked dark there.
In the LA coliseum because it was soo big there times when it looked empty with 60,000 people there. During the sellouts it was amazing and a zoo, strippers coming in, fans going at it w/ each other, opposing fans, cops.
I don’t know, a new stadium with about 70,000 seats would be perfect. Just new facilities would draw in families and new fans. In LA it would be great but I just can’t picture all the Raider fans, around all that fancy stuff they have there at LA live, it seems too Fu-Fu for the hardore Raider fans.
In Oakland a new stadium would be tight too. It would give me more of a reason to hang out in Bay area more often, but where are the investors? La seems to be drawing them like flies. To me the Raiders are one of Oakland’s major attractions but they don’t got investors or help from the local govt. which would benefit IMO from the development of the community, but again we’re in a State/city budget crisis and you can’t squeeze blood from a rock.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:22 am
The Green Mile a good f’kn movie.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:26 am
Mind you Alex7 told us 2 hours ago that he didn’t have time to take Raider football “too seriously” because he was in serious study of the scientific theories of
Dr. Amit Goswami, and his theories on Quantum Activism.
Yet he is still here.
I encourage you to listen closely as Alex7 educates us on the DEEPER things in life. Let us no longer waste our time discussing Raider tradition and the future of this silly game called Football. It is simply just some guys running around in tights.
Please let us stop our foolish banter and listen deeply to Alex 7 espouse his philosophical wisdom as he engages in deep conversation with his more intellectual friends…
Here it is right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGbzKUmgmrM
October 11th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Al may be gone, but his spinmeisters live forever.
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wow MR was that comment neccessary in these hard times were in??
Total disrespect
October 11th, 2011 at 12:39 am
called multi-tasking Armchair.
And I said no such thing.
You have nothing better to do than put words in people’s mouths? Must be that Raider DNA in your blood.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:43 am
So Mr. Goswami proposes that God’s effect on our conscious at a local and collective level through prayer and intervention allows people, and only people (His special creation) to upward-evolve while the world around us downward evolves.
I dig it.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:43 am
122 posts tonite and 81 are from alex and sullivan. what losers. get a life.
again, u show how little u really know. cam newton and jason campbell have exactly the same qb rating. jc is playing fairly well. not great, but not bad.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:45 am
why didn’t u show up at the warehouse?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:46 am
lol, what losers he says, as he posts.
Also Rob, Cam is in his 5th game. JC is in his 70th game.
Congrats JC!! You’re as good as Cam Newton!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:48 am
# alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:43 am
So Mr. Goswami proposes that God’s effect on our conscious at a local and collective level through prayer and intervention allows people, and only people (His special creation) to upward-evolve while the world around us downward evolves.
I dig it.
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hahahaha…..lolol
In other words….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNga_ycqS7o&feature=related
October 11th, 2011 at 12:49 am
Rob, it’s cute that you counted all our posts too.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:51 am
armchair,
didn’t click on it the first time nor the second.
For someone who seems to respect Mr Goswami (despite your assertion that he wouldn’t speak do dimwits like me, even though that’s his actual chosen profession), you seem to stray quite a bit from his cheerfulness of life and fellow beings.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 am
For someone who seems to respect Mr Goswami (despite your assertion that he wouldn’t speak do dimwits like me, even though that’s his actual chosen profession),
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his profession is speaking to dimwits like u?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:04 am
alex–why r u here? u clearly aren’t a raiders fan. why spend ur life here? what’s the point?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:05 am
we’re winning and all u do is complain. obviously ur a miserable scumbag
October 11th, 2011 at 1:06 am
# rob_raider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 am
For someone who seems to respect Mr Goswami (despite your assertion that he wouldn’t speak do dimwits like me, even though that’s his actual chosen profession),
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his profession is speaking to dimwits like u?
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lolol. This fool is actually telling on himself.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:07 am
# rob_raider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 am
For someone who seems to respect Mr Goswami (despite your assertion that he wouldn’t speak do dimwits like me, even though that’s his actual chosen profession),
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his profession is speaking to dimwits like u?
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lolol. This fool is actually telling on himself.
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Just for clarity I’m talking about Alex 7 here…not you rob_raider.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:10 am
uh, yeah ur losers. u post 2/3 of the posts between the 2 of u and i post my first of the nite moments ago. see. i am actually a raiders fan and yet i have a life to live. u need to find a hobby. dungeons and dragons or a LARP group might accept a loser like u. i can just imagine u in a D&D discussion group. “dragons suck. they’re not even cool anymore. maybe they were a long time ago, but we would be so much better off w/o dragons. ur warrior isn’t that good. neither is urs. this group doesn’t like me speaking the truth. i predict our group dies perilously on our next adventure. our leader doesn’t know what he’s doing. he keeps meddling.” on 2nd thought, u were probably already kicked out of those groups. unfortunately, we can’t keep u out of here even though we all would love it if u disappeared forever.
u were never like very much in high school, huh? maybe u should stop blaming others and realize that it’s ur personality. no one likes a dick.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:12 am
i know. can u believe he actually said that? it’s about the closest he’s come to the truth in his life.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:15 am
oooh, dungeons and dragons joke! How 2003ish!
You are actually a Raider “fan” and have mostly negative things to say about people that are different than you.
I see where people get the sense that Raider fans aren’t the most enlightened beings.
If you’re going to make fun of people, since you get so much pleasure out of it, at least be original. Oooh, high school nerd joke. Ooooh, blaming others (? who’s blaming who for what??) Ooooh, name-calling.
zzzzz.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:16 am
y r u here?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:17 am
ihave mostly negative things to say about an idiot who hates the raiders spending all his time on a raider fan board doing nothing but being a dick. yeah. ur a dick. period.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:17 am
i feel sorry for u. ur not a happy person. u need to do some self-examination. why does no one like u?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:18 am
these poor “REAL” raider fans. One gave above .500 and they unleash all this vitriol on anyone who doesn’t blindly worship the Raiders.
“We’re winning!” he says. Then he makes fun of Tom Cable’s “we’re not losers anymore!” speech.
Even your Al Davis said the only game that matters to win is the Super Bowl.
Settle down ladies.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:19 am
all u have to do is adjust ur attitude and i’m sure u could find some friends. stop being a know-it-all dick. stop trying spread misery. be positive. be friendly. see, it’s not that hard. i know ur life has been tuff. lots of lonely nites feeling left out. it’s ok. u can change it. try changing ur handle and ur attitude. be a nice guy. good things will follow.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:19 am
Rob
why? why would you waste your time on an idiot who hates the Raiders spending all his time on a raider fan board? And calling him names?
Why do you have nothing better to do? Sad.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:21 am
since ur not a raider worshiper, y r u here? simple question. y would someone who hates the team spend so much of their free time trying to be a dick on a raiders blog? seems pathetic. find something u like and spend time doing it. or is it that u like being a dick? which is sad.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:24 am
simple question? ok, I’ll answer.
Who says you have to be a Raider worshipper to be here?
Debate is fun, Rob. I enjoy typing here at night in between setting up teacher lesson plans and watching videos on Quantum Physics.
Debate is fun and good for your brain. Cussing and being a chat room “tough guy”…not so good for your brain. Why you choose the latter is a mystery.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:25 am
wow, ur one of those kids who repeats everything people say. “no i’m not. u are.”
yeah, they were always just about as annoying as u are.
i come to this board to talk to raiders fans. it’s a community board where fans can talk to each other. it’s fun, in moderation. guys like u and sullivan are pathetic losers who crave someone to talk to them, so u do nothing but talk sh*t about the team that everyone else here loves. ur basically someone who forces their way in here, and uses “freedom of speech” to be a total dick. seriously pathetic. no friends huh?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Rob, Alex7 is MR posting on two accounts don’t waste your breath. He is pathetic, and a douche bag. Just walk away.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Raiders are entertainment, robby. Entertainment. I’m entertained by them, through bad and good. I don’t live them. I don’t need their name on my handle. They aren’t a part of me, and I’m not a part of them. They’re men playing a game with a ball.
But again, debate is fun and good for your brain.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:26 am
If you’d rather have only people who think like you, you have a lot in common with some very dangerous and stupid groups in history.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:28 am
there’s your fascination with MR again.
Isn’t the list of people who are MR like 8 people long now? Pretty much everyone who doesn’t group-think?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:29 am
LOL. if u were smart, u would be able to tell how intelligent i am. smartest guy ion the room.
but y r u here? u don’t like the raiders. u don’t have any beliefs other than to try say things that irritate people. u hate the raiders. u hate al davis. u enjoy p*ssing people off. ur sole reason for being here is to “debate”? but that would imply u have a belief to espouse. debating isn’t just being against everyone no matter what. u don’t debate. u don’t speak truth. u just try to spread misery. u lead a sad existence.
quantum physics? doubt it. but it would mean i cam e very close to the truth about D&D. and being friendless. poor guy.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:34 am
group think? it’s a fan board moron! of course it’s group think, for the most part. that’s why we’re here. to be around others who are fans. and then jackazzes like u come here and attempt to irritate everyone. ur like some moron who thinks it debate to walk into a pottery club and tell everyone how pottery sucks. and u won’t leave. naturally, everyone hates u and wants u to leave. it’s not debate. it’s being a dick.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:34 am
Rob
I don’t spread misery. I point at the Raiders going 27 and 80 the last 8 years. There’s your misery. That’s miserable.
I debated that our GM undervalues the QB and D-Coordinator position, and that his man-to-man scheme was ridiculously easy to game plan against and run against.
The last 8 years proved me right.
That’s about it. Those were my main 3 points the last few years. Not sure why you care. But there you go.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:35 am
lol, “it’s group think! for the most part!”
well Rob, which one is it?
If it’s for the most part, it obviously leaves room for opposing views.
Settle down.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:36 am
It’s sad you don’t know the difference between group think and a board for one team.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:37 am
it’s why u have no friends, dude. seriously. i know u don’t. i don’t have to know u personally. i can just tell. and u’ve been an unhappy loner most of ur life. u don’t understand why. but i’m telling u why. but u could change it. u could make friends. but u blow ur opportunity by doing this sh*t. it’s ur defense mechanism. “they won’t like me anyway, so i’ll be a jerk. that will show them. and it will be my choice not to like them. ha!” that’s u.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:40 am
# alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:26 am
If you’d rather have only people who think like you, you have a lot in common with some very dangerous and stupid groups in history.
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The Dr. who’s “profession it is to talk to dimwits like him” told him this.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:42 am
good job Rob. You’re obviously clairvoyant. Best of luck being a kick-a$$ mind-reader.
It’s funny watching you call someone names, and telling them how big of a jerk they are.
You’d make a good psychology study.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:42 am
but that’s not what u do. lots of people here have said various things about what they think could be done better, including me. but u are anti-everything-raider. that’s not having an opinion. that’s just being a dick.
we’re raiders fans. u r not. we don’t like u b/c u come to our club and force ur way in, and spout anti-raider stuff constantly. u love being a dick. very unhealthy for u.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:45 am
what would a psychologist say about someone who spends all their free time on a fan board doing whatever they can to annoy everyone? don’t u think he’d tell u to find something more positive to do? wouldn’t he think ur obsession w/ this board is unhealthy? wouldn’t he advise u to let go of ur bitterness towards the world and try ot be nice?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:46 am
i’m trying to help u actually.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:48 am
Rob,
how long exactly have you been stalking me that you know I’m anti EVERYTHING raider? Must have been a long time
October 11th, 2011 at 1:51 am
I’m pro McFadden. Was happy when we drafted him, unlike Priesttj.
Was anti DHB, pro BJ Raji.
Anti Gallery, pro Fitzgerald.
Pro zone and 3-4, anti 90% man-to-man and 4-3.
Pro Hagan! There, now you know me and can spill whatever energy you continue to want to expend on me.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:51 am
Rob,
you’re so cute with the “we’re raider fans, you’re not” talk. Like you’re in the club now, buddy! Keep those outsiders out, this is your club!
People not invite you to their tree-houses when you were a kid?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:53 am
Rob counted all my posts tonight, too! Forgot about that!
A true stalker.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 am
of course, it’s easy to find guys in every draft that u would rather have. hindsight. and dhb is about breakout. it’s already started to happen.
the anti-al davis parade really started to take off for 3 reasons. we started losing. evreyone loves to jump on an anti-bandwagon against someone who has been successful and told everyone to fuk off. 2nd, he drafted jamarcus, dmc, and dhb in consecutive years. coming into last year, it appeared they would all be busts. then dmc emerged. now, right in front of all the smirking hyenas, dhb is arriving. turns out al knew what he was doing. and jamarcus had all the skills plus a drug habit. not al’s fault. 3rd, his age, which the press should be ripped to shreds for. everyone gets old. they were horribly guilty of ageism. criminally so.
gee–ur pro mcfadden, raji, and fitzgerald. what a reach. ever been pro-someone who wasn’t already a star?
pro hagan? because he’s caught some passes? i like the guy too, and i was happy when we signed him. but he’s not gonna be a star. a solid possession guy perhaps.
anyone else on the roster u like?
and do u claim to be a raider fan?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:01 am
Alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:51 am
Rob,
you’re so cute with the “we’re raider fans, you’re not” talk. Like you’re in the club now, buddy! Keep those outsiders out, this is your club!
People not invite you to their tree-houses when you were a kid?
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that’s twice u said i was cute. thanks.
were people not invited to my tree house. of course. dicks like u.
i am in the club. it;s called raider nation. we love the raiders. we love al davis. we have love for each other. it’;s fun. u shoud try it.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:05 am
I wanted Fitz, Raji, and McFadden before the draft.
Was pro-Hagan right when they signed him. Needed a veteran with hands.
Have been telling priesttj that last year’s draft was overrated.
Everyone was so excited about McClain, Houston, and Ford.
Average, average, and average. Which is actually a very good Raiders draft, but not the “best-draft-ever” hoopla many fans were making it out to be. Veldheer the only star there.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:06 am
And yes, come on now, it is Al’s fault for not knowing that Russell had drug issues.
Other team’s knew.
Also, after Kiffin interviewed Russell, he knew Russell was not a leader.
Al ignored this, fell in love with the arm.
Don’t give him a free pass on that blown #1 overall.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:09 am
lots of blown #1’s in history. it was jamarcus’ fault. everyone passed on brady. the draft is a crapshoot. hindsight is 20/20.
mcclain has mixed reviews. houston is good. ford isn’t a great wr but a great weapon. his rookie year, he did a lot to impress.
who else do u like on the roster?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:09 am
so al davis was brilliant for drafting veldheer?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 am
and dmc? and denarious?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 am
What was the last blown #1 besides Jamarcus the last 10 years?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:11 am
so ur going out on a limb and saying players who make it are good picks and players who don’t are bad?
wow. stunning observation.
and if u don’t like a 4-3 man defense, y not follow another team?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:12 am
it’s like dating a girl and u keep talking about how she’s not ur type. but then, i don’t think u can relate to girlfriend talk.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:14 am
You know the story of how Al decides who to draft.
Why did we end up with Derrick Gibson? Scouts wanted a different safety that ended up with the Colts. Al asked them who the biggest hitter was. Scouts said Gibson. Scouts said Gibson lacked instincts. Davis drafted Gibson.
Surely you’ve read that story. Al sometimes listens to scouts, sometimes he doesn’t. You know for a FACT Davis never went to watch Veldheer play.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:15 am
Al said he brought in a part-time GM two off-seasons ago to help out.
Since then our drafts improved.
If you want to call that a coincidence, make yourself happy.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:15 am
yeah, we do future-wife courting here, not girlfriend dating.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 am
let’s see. alex smith. david carr. courtney brown. tim couch. ki-jana carter. dan wilkinson. steve emtman. jeff george. aundray bruce. that’s 9 of the last 23. like i said. a crapshoot, even at the top.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 am
al said he was going to. he never said he did. liar. he picked veldheer. period. u like to say al’s responsible for the bad picks but someone else must have picked the good ones. totally stupid.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:22 am
dang, I did say last 10 years. Thought that was easy to understand.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:23 am
Dan Wilkinson made a pro-bowl.
Jeff George made the playoffs a few times.
Ki-Jana blew out his knee.
Alex Smith has 7 TDs and 1 int for a 4-1 team.
try again.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:24 am
You’re saying Al lied? That he didn’t bring someone in? haha. So when it suits you, he didn’t mean what he said. Gotcha.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:24 am
well buddy, u ain’t finding a wife w/ ur sh*tty personality. here’s one for u. when ur not successful at relationships, try looking at urself compared to those who are. maybe try emulating the ones who are for awhile. it will feel foreign, and u will feel like ur not being u. but after awhile, it will start to be u. u will start feling more comfortable being abetter version of urself. and see a shrink.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:26 am
he never said he brought someone in. read my post.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 am
Bruce Allen leaves the year after the Super Bowl.
Al takes over drafting.
Raiders don’t win more than 5 games for 8 straight seasons.
Al says he brought someone in two off-seasons ago.
Team has best 2 drafts in recent memory.
Rob thinks it’s all a coincidence
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 am
wife, 6-year old musician daughter. Thanks for caring.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 am
wilkinson never made the pro bowl.
none of the ones i listed did.
u wanted 10 years. not a very big sample size. i gave u 9 players who were picked #1 in the last 23 years. and din’t even include russell. so, 10 if the last 23 woukd be considered busts for the #1 overall. not a single pro-bowl between them. almost 50%.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:30 am
by Tim Kawakami on October 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am | Categorized as 49ers, NFL, Raiders
* 11:11 a.m. upate: Again, no biggee, but just got independent confirmation that Tom Gamble was offered a job with the Raiders last off-season. No word on any talks since then, but Al Davis has let it be known that he admires Gamble.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:32 am
Wilkinson had a 12-year NFL career. How is that a bust?
George 11 years, 3 playoff games.
Busts? you’re reaching due to blind loyalty.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:36 am
Alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 am
Bruce Allen leaves the year after the Super Bowl.
Al takes over drafting.
Raiders don’t win more than 5 games for 8 straight seasons.
Al says he brought someone in two off-seasons ago.
Team has best 2 drafts in recent memory.
Rob thinks it’s all a coincidence
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well, now ur just showing what a deceptive little liar u r.
al davis always did the drafting. u know this. ur trying to say he took over for bruce allen? laughable!
a draft takes time to hurt or help. we were in the super bowl in ‘02. gannon was hurt the following year. we tried to replace him but failed. we picked jamarcus in ‘07. he set the raiders back. it was a bad run.
he never said he brought someone in, u liar. he said he was going to but it never materialized. ur just such a slippery snake.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:38 am
Alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:30 am
by Tim Kawakami on October 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am | Categorized as 49ers, NFL, Raiders
* 11:11 a.m. upate: Again, no biggee, but just got independent confirmation that Tom Gamble was offered a job with the Raiders last off-season. No word on any talks since then, but Al Davis has let it be known that he admires Gamble.
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this is ur proof? that he may have offered a guy a position? but the guy never was hired. this is ur proof?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:40 am
wilkinson and george were both considered busts by the teams that drafted them. they had underwhelming careers for their draft positions. besides, the other 8 were busts as well. just shows the poor percentage of being correct in the draft. everyone knows this but u apparently.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:40 am
Sure is better than you simply saying it didn’t happen.
Lot more reason to believe it did than it didn’t.
Al said he would. You say he lied?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:42 am
8 of last 9 #1s have outperformed JaMarcus.
With today’s advanced scouting, online information, and technology, it’s pretty hard to blow a #1, as history is showing us.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:43 am
he said he was going to bring in a big name. it never happened. he was probably speaking of madden. that’s how it seemed to me. my guess is that madden and al talked about it but then madden backed out. but al would never throw him under the bus so he just ate it.
bottom line, a hire was never reported. ur trying to take credit away from al by saying a “phantom” hire was responsible for the last 2 drafts.
then u back it up w/ a “report” that a guy was offered a job but never accepted. this is ur idea of being a good debater?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:45 am
Things are looking good against the Browns although they’re coming off a bye.
They’re 26th against the run and have the 21st offensive.
Benard, DE, was just in a motorcycle accident and is in hospital while the center Mack had an appendectomy just last week.
They have a good QB in Colt McCoy though while we’ve got Campbell.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:46 am
lol,
what upstairs hires ARE reported? Almost none, if any. Not being reported is just the Raiders way.
He said he would, most believe him that he did. The report doesn’t say he didn’t accept.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:48 am
hahaha! man, u really suck at this! first of all, bradford has regressed. 2nd, u can’t count the drafts since jamarcus, as “improvements” that u speak of have happened since his pick. david carr. tim couch. alex smith has a career qb rating of 74.6! finally, he is showing some signs of improvement. just shows what good coaching can do. and that’s what’s happening w/ campbell too.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 am
McCoy is a less-talented Gannon. Browns need to surround him with talent to make it work, otherwise he’ll be a backup in 4 years.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 am
campbell=#16 qb 84.3 rating
mccoy=#24 qb 78.7 rating.
campbell is better.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:50 am
I like how you turned this from Russell to Campbell.
The point remains that all those guys (Smith, Bradford) in the last 10 years, which was my point, are better than Russell.
It’s really hard to blow a #1 nowadays.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:51 am
tom gamble worked for the 49ers then and now. do ur homework.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:52 am
Goodness, I would hope 7th year JC with a top-3 running game two years in a row would be better than a guy making his 13th start for a low-talent team.
Though the gap is not very wide
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 am
only 3 pro-bowlers in the top 10 picks of the ‘07 draft. u don’t know what ur talking about.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 am
201.rob_raider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 am
campbell=#16 qb 84.3 rating
mccoy=#24 qb 78.7 rating.
campbell is better.
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There are statistics, statistics, and damn lies.
At the end of the fifth week the quarterback rating for Sanchez was higher than that of Brady.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:54 am
i was speaking to englandraider. jc playing much better than mccoy.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:55 am
lol, the 07 draft was 4 years ago. You expect 10 pro bowlers already? easy there turbo.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:55 am
much better? based on biased observations by a fan?
Or on JC’s struggles against Denver, NE, and Houston?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:56 am
brady=#2 qb 109.5 rating
sanchez=#19 qb 80.4 rating
the #’s don’t lie after 5 weeks. stats are facts. they make it impossible for people to lie and talk “opinions”. the proof is there.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:56 am
struggles against denver?
October 11th, 2011 at 3:00 am
#1 jamarcus russell
#2 megatron
#3 joe thomas
#4 gaines adams
#5 levi brown
#6 laron landry
#7 adrian peterson
#8 jamaal anderson
#9 ted ginn
#10 amobi okoye
let me guess, u were high on megatron, thomas, and ap.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:00 am
looks like 7 of 10 were disappointed.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:01 am
he was baaaaaaad. 13 for 22, 100 yards. Vs Denver, who has been shredded by everyone else.
baaaaaaad.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:04 am
(here’s where “stats are facts” boy will interject with some biased subjective opinions instead)
October 11th, 2011 at 3:04 am
he wasn’t bad. tat just proves u don’t know football. they didn’t throw the ball much. 86.4 rating that game. he played just fine. only a douche like u would say he played baaaaaaaaaad. total lack of knowledge.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:06 am
just facts. 86.4 rating=pretty good. 1 td. no picks. u think it’s baaaaaaaaaaad, b/c he didn’t throw for 300 yards. it’s not bad at all. just did what was necessary to win when asked to do so.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:08 am
u suck at debating. u resort to lies, and ur lack of knowledge of the game is stunning. u should give this up. ur baaaaaaaaaaaad at it.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:10 am
Yes, he did throw the ball 22 times.
For 100 yards.
22 attempts.
100 yards.
spin away spinmaster.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:12 am
tell us how he didn’t really try to complete more than the half of throws he completed.
How captain checkdown masterfully kept the game close, and required Jano to kick record-tying kicks to save us.
Tell us it was impeccable game management to clank half his NFL throws into the ground against one of football’s worst teams.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:13 am
I love his predictability. Like most blind loyalists.
alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:04 am
(here’s where “stats are facts” boy will interject with some biased subjective opinions instead)
rob_raider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:04 am
he wasn’t bad. tat just proves u don’t know football. they didn’t throw the ball much. 86.4 rating that game. he played just fine. only a douche like u would say he played baaaaaaaaaad. total lack of knowledge.
13 for 22, 105 yards. He wasn’t bad lol
October 11th, 2011 at 3:14 am
uh, dumbazz. he completed a lot of short, ball-control passes, what he was asked to do. he doesn’t call the plays. they ran the ball very well. most passing downs needed less than 5 yards for a 1st. he completed 59% of the passes he was asked to throw. that’s smart football, dummy. again, u don’t know much and u just like to throw things out there in an effort to annoy. but ur lies have no effect here.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:16 am
what exactly was bad about it? the 59% completion rate. the 1 td and no picks? oh, i see it was the 100 yards. like a little boy who only understands big #’s. ur like some idiot who thinks a qb is awesome when he throws for 300 yards with 2 td’s and 2 int’s and his team loses. but look at the yardage! he’s awesome!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:23 am
u lose. i win.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:23 am
he was asked to miss the medium and deep throws. Gotcha.
It was the worst start of any QB vs Denver so far.
It was his worst start of the year.
It was bad. Get ovah it!
The point of the QB is to help move the ball.
He helped move it…100 yards! lol
October 11th, 2011 at 3:25 am
u don’t know football. it’s obvious.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:26 am
He caused Lechler to punt a season-high 6 times. I’m sure that was part of the gameplan also.
DMac ran for 150. Must have created some great opportunities to throw. Oh wait.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:27 am
His longest throw of the day was when he spiked the ball.
It was baaaaaaaaad.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:28 am
He was the star of sportscenter for his awesomeness.
They told him in future weeks to “slow down and play like you did in Denver, dangit!!!!!!”
He received a humanitarian award after his Denver performance due to his unselfishness in allowing others to do better.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:29 am
ur an idiot.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:30 am
i’m done w/ u. get help.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:30 am
you spell you’re ur. You lose.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:30 am
I’ll ask JC for help. He can help me not be so awesome!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:30 am
better get some sleep so u can “teach” tomorrow. liar.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:31 am
goodnight Robbie! Sleep well, dream for more Denver-ish performances from JC, a whopping 100 yards passing, or exactly 1 more than Brady collected in one throw to Welker.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:32 am
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Awesome. Just awesome…
October 11th, 2011 at 3:33 am
But hey, I understand. JC’s a rookie so they had to limit the gameplan against that NASTY Denver defense that had led them to a 4-12 record last year.
NASTY DEFENSE I tell ya! 25th in the league.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:34 am
Oh! Oh! I can guess GoodOle!
1) He’s more athlete than football player! (ding, ding!)
2) He has the passing skills of Uncle Rico (ding, ding!)
3) He’s Tim Tebow but without the high character! (ding, ding, ding!)
October 11th, 2011 at 3:35 am
I’m almost done with the sub plans Rob. Thanks for caring.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:39 am
yeah right–a sub tomorrow. that explains it.
subtly backpedalling already on tebow! ur such a joke. u said he sucked and pryor would too. but he just played kinda well. people are thinking he might spark them. now it’s time for u to plant ur “good character” seed so u can claim that’s the difference between tebow and pryor, just in case tebow makes good.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:43 am
nope, they’re both better athletes than QBs. Neither will do much as a QB.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:43 am
half-day sub. SIOP training. You’re so interested. I’m happily married though, remember?
October 11th, 2011 at 3:45 am
bet she’s not
October 11th, 2011 at 3:45 am
i bet a lot of people have wanted to punch u in ur life
October 11th, 2011 at 3:49 am
Nah. Most people I associate with have higher discipline than that of a 5-year old. Crazy world I live in!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:50 am
ur such a dick.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:51 am
usually the one name-calling is. Thicken your skin, laugh a little.
I’m sleepy. Tell me that scary story about the big bad Denver defense and how awesome those 100 yards passed were. The bravery of rookie JC under such duress, facing that 4-12 team full of 25th ranked defenders.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:52 am
No idea why you spent 3 hours with me while I finished work and the movie, but thanks! Take care my friend
May happy endorphins overcome those nasty adrenaline rushes of negative thoughts.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:56 am
i’m happy. the raiders are playoff bound. ur the idiot who has nothing in life to do but be on a raiders fan site when u hate them. poor guy.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:59 am
poor me!
As of right now, the Raiders would not be in the playoffs. But yes, they are no longer embarrassing, and I’m certainly enjoying that. Secret GM comes through
See ya.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:00 am
actually, the change is due to Hue first and foremost. Don’t want to rob him of his due. Has turned a moribund offense into a top-5 one.
night.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:05 am
Long Live Raider Nation..!!
October 11th, 2011 at 4:05 am
yep–it’s due to hue, al davis hire. great job al!
October 11th, 2011 at 4:06 am
u built a winner!
October 11th, 2011 at 4:08 am
he also hired Chuck B. so let’s slow down our roll.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:09 am
and rob ryan. and NOT monte kiffin. and sanjay lal. and norv turner with no talent. and art shell. and bed and breakfast guy.
other than that…
October 11th, 2011 at 4:10 am
and gruden.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:11 am
I’ve bought into Coach Jackson… I think he is the right guy and I also believe the players are buying Into Hue….were at least headed in the right direction and so far it appears Al Davis had all his Ducks lined up in case he did pass away as to how to proceed….
October 11th, 2011 at 4:12 am
yes, traded gruden, can’t forget that.
commitment to…my way.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:13 am
al davis will prove once again that he knew what he was doing this year. he built every part of this team. dicks on this board who try claim he didn’t build this team are morons. when they finish 10-6 or better, they can suck my dick.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 am
yep. my team. my way. of course. what great man would do it any other way?
October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 am
regrets? he had a few. but then again, too few to mention.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:15 am
alex–prediction for sunday? browns win, right?
October 11th, 2011 at 4:17 am
eeew rob, you want people to do what to you? gross.
Browns are not the Patriots or Bills. Raiders 27, Browns 20. Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:17 am
Raiders..30…. Browns 20…..
October 11th, 2011 at 4:18 am
well, a great man would look at an NFL-worst 10+ loss seasons under his watch and give more power to others. Which Al finally did.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:19 am
raiders 38 browns 6
October 11th, 2011 at 4:20 am
no he didn’t. liar.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:20 am
we traded Gruden for Teyo Johnson, Philip Buchanon, Tyler Brayton, and Langston Walker. That was awesome.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:21 am
oh u mean ur “phantom” hire that no one knows about who secretly helped al draft the last 2 years? ur a joke.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:21 am
he let Chuck B. run a zone defense to his heart’s content this year. He let coaches talk him into drafting a slow LB #8 overall, something unheard of for him.
So yes, yes he did relinquish a bit.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:22 am
and the blitzing! he let us blitz the last two years!
October 11th, 2011 at 4:22 am
u picked all 5 teams we’ve played to win. ur changing now b/c u want to jump on the bandwagon ever so sneakily. snake.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:24 am
I bet the Bills, Patriots, and Texans.
Almost swept. Thanks.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:24 am
here’s your little reynold’s wrap foil crown for being the “winner” of tonight’s debate. Now maybe you can go to bed. The crown has an L on it, for loveable I think.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:26 am
the defense id run by the DC, dummy, not al davis. rob ryan runs the same defense today as he did then. so does bresnahan. when he fired kiffin, he talked about the letter that told kiffin to quit complaining, “you ran your beloved cover-2″. he has a philosophy. he hires people he thinks are on the same page. they do their thing. he gives them advice and input. simple. the only thing different the past 2 years is that the players he brought in are developing and the coachoing staff he brought in are doing well. he was unafraid to fire people he was wrong about. that’s strength.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:28 am
sorry bud, he gave Rob Ryan a whopping 2 months to install a 3-4 scheme before making him scrap him.
Al Davis runs the D. Bill Belichick said so, former coaches said so, I’ll take their word over yours.
Night.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:29 am
and there is no difference the past 2 years. We finished 27th in run defense last year and are 31st in overall D this year.
Nice try though. Players developing and all that.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:29 am
Not all that impressed with what I’ve seen of the Doltz …
Think the Afc west is there for the taking…
The Raiders should benifit from 3 weeks at home before going down to
San Diego…
Of course the Donks think all their problems are solved now that Tebows gonna start.. saw their game Sunday… Tebow looked like a headless chicken… Hype..
October 11th, 2011 at 4:30 am
he runs the defense from his office and his box? have u seen him out on the field on sundays? with a headset on during games? belichick meant he wants it run a certain way. a philosophy. big deal. if i own a team and i have a way i believe in, i’m gonna hire people who see it that way too. it’s called courage in ur convictions. but liars like you would never understand that.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:31 am
Alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 4:21 am
he let Chuck B. run a zone defense to his heart’s content this year. He let coaches talk him into drafting a slow LB #8 overall, something unheard of for him.
So yes, yes he did relinquish a bit.
Alex7 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 4:22 am
and the blitzing! he let us blitz the last two years!
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now u say there’s no difference. make up ur mind snakey!
October 11th, 2011 at 4:37 am
Richard Seymour on Sirius Radio ( yesterday)….” I saw this team grow up right before my eyes on Sunday.. ”
Long live Raider Nation..!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 4:38 am
yes, sunday was big. momentum is seriously with the raiders.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:41 am
Were due to blowout some team…could be this Sunday at home….
When this offense finally comes together” Watch out”…
October 11th, 2011 at 4:44 am
the coliseum will be jacked sunday. w/ the al davis tribute and fans believing. the players will feel it. they are believing too. just look at dhb. he was amped. pumping his fists. he played better than i’d ever seen him. this team may come out smoking. the browns suck in run defense. the raiders could pile up 200 yards. and i truly believe dhb has arrived. i went from thinking he would have about 45/650 to now thinking he could get 70/1000. the light went on. we witnessed the game that marks their arrival.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:54 am
Agree..
October 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Wait are we in here now talking thrash about Al???
Good Morning Nation!!! Oh boy, its gonna be a long week!
October 11th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Cowher? A Steeler? Here? Thank God Al is gone but he is probably STILL spinning in his grave hearing you want to bring a Steeler here.
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Sey Bush,
Al Davis tried to talk Terry Bradshaw out of retirement to come play in Oakland. shut your piehole
October 11th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Rockstar! How’s things Bro? Family?
October 11th, 2011 at 6:12 am
I can’t believe MR & Kell are still around, after Al’s passing … what miserable people
plus that one jerk who always referred to Mr. Davis as the “old creeper”
October 11th, 2011 at 6:14 am
So apparently the Westboro Baptist Church idiots are going to protest Al’s funeral. LOL. Are they unaware of what the Nation is like when angered? Good luck.
Mornin’ a.m. crew
October 11th, 2011 at 6:14 am
MRs hate train has moved on to Trask and Herrera. No surprise really.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:15 am
Good morning Hwnrdr!
things are great. family is great.
how are you?
I’m ready to go spank Cleveland
stuff Peyton Hillis = win the game
October 11th, 2011 at 6:16 am
stuff Peyton Hillis = win the game
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Amen. Easiest gameplan all season, RRS. Cleveland’s got a suspect QB and no real WRs to speak of.
Keep Branch up in the box and dare McCoy to beat us with his arm.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:18 am
points B & C should be to stuff Montario Hardesty and cover TE’s Watson & Moore
McCoy and the Brown’s WR corps don’t show up as a threat to me. I wouldn’t care if DVD & Porter started this game
October 11th, 2011 at 6:22 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.GOING 2 B A STRANGE GAME-DAY ALL AROUND I THINK..3RD SELLOUT IN A ROW ??HOPE 2 HOOK UP AGAIN HWNRDR..
October 11th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Browns have two big DTs in the center, but their DEs are suspect at holding the edge against the run.
Get DMac and Taiwan Jones on the edge in space and the Browns are hosed. Screen ‘em to death.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Just reading through and Rob agreed with every thing. Everyone hates the dic. I feel like I lost my grandfather on Saturday.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:25 am
How desperate for receivers is St. Louis? They just signed White Webster yesterday!
October 11th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Rockstar…Doing good! And yup, we’re do to give a spanking!
Dirt Lot…Are you in A Lot this Sunday?
PA…what? How the F you disrespect family like that and what the F does the Baptist church have against Al? I agree…don’t anger the Nation!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 6:28 am
299.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:25 am
How desperate for receivers is St. Louis? They just signed White Webster yesterday!
I know, I seen that! They are desparate…I think they lost 2 of them for the year, right?
October 11th, 2011 at 6:29 am
SnB,WAIT ‘TILL HE FALLS DOWN A COUPLE OF TIMES UNTOUCHED BY HUMAN HANDS.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:32 am
What’s the church got against Al?
October 11th, 2011 at 6:32 am
If those idiots really show up to protest Al then a lot of people are going to jail …and the hospital.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:32 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:29 am
SnB,WAIT ‘TILL HE FALLS DOWN A COUPLE OF TIMES UNTOUCHED BY HUMAN HANDS.
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Or fair catches inside the 10 yard line 15 times in a row
Or takes a kick from 7 yards deep in the endzone out and gets creamed at the 10.
Hwnrdr: yes they did. They’re frantically digging through the scrap heap, clearly
October 11th, 2011 at 6:33 am
raiderfankirk Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:32 am
If those idiots really show up to protest Al then a lot of people are going to jail …and the hospital.
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That’s what I’m hoping for. These guys have no idea what they are stepping into.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:34 am
YES HWNRDR,BACK 2 A-LOT THIS WEEK.BE A SHORT HIKE ACCROSS THE DRIVEWAY 2 D-LOT.WILL CALL U WHEN WE GET IN AND SETTLED.WILL PROBABLY ANOTHER CLUSTER)*#$*(%@ GETTING IN THIS WEEK..
October 11th, 2011 at 6:35 am
How desperate for receivers is St. Louis? They just signed White Webster yesterday!
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LOL!
I’m sure Sam Bradford is pi$$ed, like “what the BLEEP am I supposed to do with this?”
October 11th, 2011 at 6:36 am
later gents – work to do
October 11th, 2011 at 6:37 am
81.JB Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
REPOST
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If you are a Raider season ticket holder, please check your e-mail for a very special message from the Raiders. DO NOT WAIT. DO IT NOW! you will be pleasantly surprised. It will be a time sensitive message so DO NOT DELAY CHECKING.
Hey JB, I didn’t get anything yet. When was it supposed to come in?
October 11th, 2011 at 6:39 am
CAME LAST NIGHT HWNDR..TICKET OFFER.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:39 am
307.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:34 am
YES HWNRDR,BACK 2 A-LOT THIS WEEK.BE A SHORT HIKE ACCROSS THE DRIVEWAY 2 D-LOT.WILL CALL U WHEN WE GET IN AND SETTLED.WILL PROBABLY ANOTHER CLUSTER)*#$*(%@ GETTING IN THIS WEEK..
I agree, but sounds good! See you Sunday!
October 11th, 2011 at 6:40 am
308.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:35 am
How desperate for receivers is St. Louis? They just signed White Webster yesterday!
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LOL!
I’m sure Sam Bradford is pi$$ed, like “what the BLEEP am I supposed to do with this?”
Darn you Rockstar…good thing I didn’t have my coffee yet! I started to crack up when I saw that…
October 11th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Is it the skulls? The face paint? They think Al was into pagan idolaty?
October 11th, 2011 at 6:40 am
311.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:39 am
CAME LAST NIGHT HWNDR..TICKET OFFER.
I still didn’t get it…hmmm…
October 11th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Good Afternoon Neil! I don’t know, but like PA says, they are in for a bit of a surprise if they go on with this!
October 11th, 2011 at 6:43 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
Sounds like they want some publicity.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:44 am
JUST FOWARDED IT 2 U HWNRDR..
October 11th, 2011 at 6:46 am
318.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:44 am
JUST FOWARDED IT 2 U HWNRDR..
Thanks Dirt Lot, I got it…but I didn’t get mine though. Interesting…
October 11th, 2011 at 6:49 am
I’ll call the ticket office today. That is a darn good deal!
October 11th, 2011 at 6:53 am
Time to take the dogs out.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I would expect the Hells Angels to be at the funeral to block off those religious baffoons. If they do show up, it could get really ugly.
October 11th, 2011 at 6:56 am
JUST LET THE DAMN THINGS OUT NEILB..OH !!! THATS BEEN DONE ALREADY, SORRY
October 11th, 2011 at 7:09 am
morilla Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I would expect the Hells Angels to be at the funeral to block off those religious baffoons. If they do show up, it could get really ugly.
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Hahaha, funny you mention Hell’s Angels; I mentioned it to a friend and he said “They’ll basically be walking into Altamont.”
October 11th, 2011 at 7:10 am
neilb Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:53 am
Time to take the dogs out.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
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So it was you who let the dogs out!
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October 11th, 2011 at 7:27 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:09 am
morilla Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I would expect the Hells Angels to be at the funeral to block off those religious baffoons. If they do show up, it could get really ugly.
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Hahaha, funny you mention Hell’s Angels; I mentioned it to a friend and he said “They’ll basically be walking into Altamont.”
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Yup, this would be a lot different than all the others they have shown up to.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Tebow named Broncos starting QB.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Shamwow signed by Rams. Going away party at the Suds N’ Shine car wash today. Suds N’ Shine owner says Shamwow will be greatly missed, even after that incident where he dropped his shammy into the tracks and messed the machinery up.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Good morning, Nation.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:38 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Tebow named Broncos starting QB.
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On the downside, this probably moves them to the forefront of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. Gotta hope the Colts and Dolphins keep losing so the Donks won’t pick any higher than 3rd!
October 11th, 2011 at 7:39 am
LA To TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Tebow named Broncos starting QB.
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8 in the box problem solved
October 11th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I’d take Tebow or Pryor over Campbell any day.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:40 am
What’s this sh#t about someone planning to protest at Al’s funeral? Is it those hypocritical whack-jobs from Westbunghole Baptist Church? Turn out in force Bay Area Nation and lay the wood to them at the first sign of nonsense.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:40 am
HueKnows Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:39 am
LA To TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Tebow named Broncos starting QB.
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8 in the box problem solved
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Yup. Take away that QB draw up the middle that he scored with against us last year and the Chargers last week and he’s hosed.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Wait, why is Al’s funeral being boycotted?
October 11th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Kirk Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I’d take Tebow or Pryor over Campbell any day.
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Maybe next year or the year after but certainly not this year.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Kirk Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I’d take Tebow or Pryor over Campbell any day.
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Glad you’re not in charge of personnel.
I like Pryor’s chances of being a talented NFL QB better than most, but he’s nowhere close to ready yet.
If a QB with Tebow’s skillset but without the media hype coming out of college entered the draft, he’d be taken in the 5th round and coverted to a new position.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:42 am
We played Orton pretty well. Tebow burned us early last year but became one dimensional. Wouldn’t completely write him off though.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:43 am
As a QB Tebow makes a good TE.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Seymour leading the league in ass9 meltdowns as well.
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# hwnrdr Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
So, Richard Seymour is tied for 3rd in the NFL with 5 sacks and McFaddden is the leading rusher with 519 yards on 91 carries with 3 rushing touchdowns! Go Raiders!
October 11th, 2011 at 7:44 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:42 am
We played Orton pretty well. Tebow burned us early last year but became one dimensional. Wouldn’t completely write him off though.
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I won’t write him off completely because he does have an insane work ethic and if anyone can overcome the odds he faces to be a franchise QB, it’s someone like that.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:48 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Seymour leading the league in ass9 meltdowns as well.
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#2 behind Tony Romo.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:49 am
We should be able to get our running game going again against Cleveland. Having said that, opposing defenses will be loading the box against us so we have to get more consistent in the passing game.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:51 am
You guys also have to remember it was raining like crazy in Denver – Why throw the ball in the heavy rain when DMAC was tearing it up? The Doncos tried and look what happened?
October 11th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Fk Romo I couldn’t care less what Dallas is doing.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Put me on the “likes” Tebow side of the room. He has issues with his technique, mechanism and reads, but he is a born leader and a spark, whenever he is on the field. He will get a team wins, like Dalton and Newton will. But I think Elway will still draft his own franchise QB next year, and all of Orton, Tebow, and Quinn will get released/traded.
In the same vein, I am also very high on Pryor. He is cut from the same cloth as Tebow, Newton, Dalton. Accustomed to winning, they want to keep winning, and they work hard behind the scenes. Pryor might take a year behind Campbell, might not hit the ground running like Newton did, but he’s got more upside than Campbell. To win, you need QBs who take it on their shoulders, who take risks in a game, because to win you really have to PUSH, cant toe a safe conservative ‘avoid error’ approach.
As much as we all hate Rivers, for instance, he is a machine in the same sense. Great competitors is what you want pulling the wagon.
October 11th, 2011 at 7:58 am
GG Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Put me on the “likes” Tebow side of the room. He has issues with his technique, mechanism and reads, but he is a born leader and a spark, whenever he is on the field.
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This schit drives me up a wall. Replace “Tebow” with “Gradkowski” and you wouldn’t have a change a thing. What is it that makes everyone go ga-ga over Tebow then? Because he’s a tough runner?
October 11th, 2011 at 8:03 am
I’d only like Tebow if he was a Raider but since he’s not f him.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Gradkowski can’t stay healthy, limited arm, doesn’t offer the running ability, not as decorated a man as Tebow in the sense of leadership, winning pedigree.
When Russell was still starter I was among the few who believed in Gradkowski as a better option, because he was more able than Russell who was clearly on his downward spiral. But Gradkowski’s ceiling is limited.
Tebow…he might not become a franchise QB anywhere, there’s that risk, because he’d need a HC/GM/Owner who believe in him, are patient to persevere thru his learning curves. So it’s a matter of whether Elway/Fox end up believing in him beyond this year or not, and if they don’t, not sure who else out there might (maybe Gruden as a HC for a new team). He’s not going to be a good-looking pocket QB, flashing talent there like Brady, but someone more like a Bernie Kosar but with tough running ability too.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Anyone who thinks Kyle Orton brings more to the table than Tim Tebow isn’t paying attention.
Orton bores his offense, his fans and even his own team.
Tebow invigorates all 3, and thankfully Fox was too stupid to realize this and didn’t bring in Tebow the second-half of the MN opener.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Tebow burned us early last year but became one dimensional.
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It was his 1st NFL start, with that O-line grunt filling in as temp HC.
He still posted a 100 QB rating on the road in his first start, and became only the second QB in NFL history (Steve Young the other) to have a 40 yard TD run and 40 yard TD pass in the same game.
I said it at the beginning of the year, the future of Tebow scares me exponetially more than Orton, Rivers or Cassel.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:15 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Fk Romo I couldn’t care less what Dallas is doing.
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Oh, so you only bag on Raiders. Got it.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:16 am
I said it at the beginning of the year, the future of Tebow scares me exponetially more than Orton, Rivers or Cassel.
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Agreed. I thought when they drafted him ‘this guy will burn out immediately or he will be my arch nemesis for a decade.’
October 11th, 2011 at 8:28 am
My focus is on the Oakland Raiders. If you have a problem with that go F yourself.
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# LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Oh, so you only bag on Raiders. Got it.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am
340.MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Seymour leading the league in ass9 meltdowns as well.
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# hwnrdr Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
So, Richard Seymour is tied for 3rd in the NFL with 5 sacks and McFaddden is the leading rusher with 519 yards on 91 carries with 3 rushing touchdowns! Go Raiders!
Mista…was waiting for a response…lol
October 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:28 am
My focus is on the Oakland Raiders. If you have a problem with that go F yourself.
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You’re very hostile. Chill.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I dont miss an opportunity!
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# hwnrdr Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Mista…was waiting for a response…lol
October 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
As long as JC is playin well an showing he gets better with consistency
in the system. I don’t think we will see T. Pryor for at least two seasons.
Unless they find conventional ways to get him on the field
he’ll be a backup being groomed to start.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Would you rather I take a deep breath before telling you to F yourself? *sigh*
Go F yourself…..better ?
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# LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am
You’re very hostile. Chill.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Plus pryor Is gonna have to work his way up the depth chart. He’ll prolly be behind boller maybe even lechler for now
October 11th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Problem is JC is regressing. Maybe he is blind or mentally retarded I dont know but he throws the ball out of bounds on a regular basis. I’ve never seen an NFl Qb do this, have you?
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r8dercain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
As long as JC is playin well an showing he gets better with consistency
in the system. I don’t think we will see T. Pryor for at least two seasons.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Morning Ray!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 8:35 am
As I previously posted, there is a lot of griping here in Cleveland about the Browns, particularly the team’s very inept offense. Too much pressure being put on McCoy, who dinks and dunks to no real purpose. Very low scoring and unintimidating offense. Receivers so unreliable that McCoy won’t throw to them half the time. Just announced rookie WR Greg Little will start. Expect about 25 carries from Peyton Hillis and Montario Hardesty.
Having said that, you can probably count on Schurmur testing the Raiders’ CBs early, perhaps (in the first half anyways)using the pass to set up the run. Maybe try to wear the Raiders down in the second half with a more intensive run game, particularly if the game is close.
Browns defense is similar to Raiders inasmuch as they bend too much, but don’t break as much as you might think with so many young players. Have a growing stud in CB Joe Haden, who may be limited on Sunday due to a sprained knee–but I think he will likely play. He’s very good. Center Alex Mack is questionable after having an emergency appendectomy, and I don’t think he’ll play. Mack is also very good. Not much else to say about their offensive line–it pretty much sucks.
The Browns are very far from an elite team, and if the Raiders intend to re-establish themselves this year this is really a must win against a very beatable team. All Campbell has to do is manage the game effectively and protect the ball. Defense needs to stop the run and force McCoy to throw, which would be disastrous for the Browns.
If we get 150 yards rushing, 3 touchdowns, and minimize mistakes Raiders win this game no problem. If they resort to old bad habits, trust me losing to this team would be a significant setback.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:37 am
He does misfire the deep sideline balls quite often. But he’ll get better as the season goes. Remember that old sayin “Practice Makes Perfect”
October 11th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I hope Pryor can be an answer, because this is Jason Campbell.
He has a 84.3 QB rating. Last year it was 84.5 . His highest year was 86, lowest 77, and averages an 82 for his career.
Give him credit for being consistant, but it is consistantly mediocre. That is Jason Cambpell, he will have some good games, have some stinkers, and show you enough at times to think he will emerge, yet he probably never will.
We will see what Soup can accomplish this year, but Pryor is definately in the organizations plans, and being that he is on a 4 year deal, he will get some run sooner rather than later.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:41 am
GM Vegas….whats your take on Pryor?
You seem to be fascinated with Tebow… Pryor, Newton and Tebow have very similar game!
October 11th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Not much else to say about their offensive line–it pretty much sucks.
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They drafted O-lineman in the first round two years in a row, and they still suck??
Who would have thunk it??
Drafting O-lineman in the 1st round is the stupidest thing ever!!! Really, how much better is Joe Thomas or Jake Long than Jared Veldheer? Maybe they are a little better, but they never made their teams offense any better, and they make probably 10X’s more than Veldheer.
If I were to run a team, O-lineman would be the focus of the middle rounds of my draft annually, but I WOULD NEVER draft an O-lineman in the first round, unless I was 110% confident he was the next Anthony Munoz.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:45 am
GM Vegas….whats your take on Pryor?
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I want to see him play, but I thought he was a good value for a 3rd rounder.
Not one to tune in to much Big 10 football, but he looked good enough in his bowl games that I saw to warrant a look.
Not sure if he has the between-the-ears skills needed to be an elite QB in the NFL, but we shall see.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Steinbach is injured. Thomas is overrated. Entire right side of the line is amateur hour.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Mike Pouncey was worth the first rounder.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:48 am
LOL
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# r8dercain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:37 am
He does misfire the deep sideline balls quite often. But he’ll get better as the season goes. Remember that old sayin “Practice Makes Perfect”
October 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Man….Wish i could be there Sunday.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Would you rather I take a deep breath before telling you to F yourself? *sigh*
Go F yourself…..better ?
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LOL! Fair enough. If my country were being taken over my radical islamic commies, I’d be uptight too.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I will root for Pryor to be sucessful, but I really truly doubt if he will be. I just don’t seem him as ever being a pro level passer… but I did say the same thing about Cam Newton, and what he is doing is down right amazing.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Second yr in the same system an also he got a very good run game.
Look my question to everyone is where were we bfore he arrived. An where are we today.
If the coaching staff has his back than so should we as “fans”.
He nay have all those stats from the past. But what do they say bout stats. “Stats are for loosers”. An since he took over we’ve been in more games than the bfore him or the guy bfore that guy an on an on. I support JC as long as the coaches do
October 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
373.DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Man….Wish i could be there Sunday.
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Agreed
October 11th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Mike Pouncey was worth the first rounder.
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Maybe.
How much has the Steelers offense improved since he was there? They still can’t seem to block much, or run the ball when needed.
Mike Pouncey can’t block Haloti Ngata or Vince Wilfork much better than Satele. They both will get man-handled, so what’s the point?
October 11th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Soup is definately much better than what we have had over the years. Not even debatable.
But at some time, this team will be good enough to challenge for a title, and Campbell will be holding them back from doing so.
I am suprised to say, that we may already be there right now.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Same thing goes for Pryor too!!
If the coaches think he can play QB. Than he’s got my vote until otherwise.
I’m not a coach or GM. Iam just a fan
an that’s what I’m gonna do. Go out an root for the raiders when ever they step on the field
October 11th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Individually Pouncey is the best Center in the league, but we all know that you need 5 guys pulling in the same direction for the Oline to work. One weak link and the whole thing comes crashing down.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am
I am suprised to say, that we may already be there right now.
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The defense will hold us back right now. We can gut some wins out in October with less the stellar play, but in January our Defense will get us killed quickly.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am
We shouldn’t even talk about Pryor for another 2-3 years.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Soup can’t throw deep. He blows opportunities over and over. No doubt these WIDE OPEN receivers clear out space to pass underneath.
He may get better. We can only hope. But right now he makes games that shouldn’t be close into barely winning. Thank God for our defense last Sunday.
He may very well be the weakest link in our offense.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:01 am
soup is still adequate. (barely)
Technically he hasn’t lost us a game.
Although overthrowing wide open DHB out of bounds in Buff might have been the difference. I think of Buff as more of a team loss.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:02 am
soup did bring back the deer-in-the-headlights glaze.
Briefly.
Snapped out of it tho.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:05 am
The defense will hold us back right now. We can gut some wins out in October with less the stellar play, but in January our Defense will get us killed quickly.
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Maybe we should listen to big Richard Seymour when he say
“I just saw this team grow up in front of my eyes”
That’s what I’m gonna do.
Defense will get better an better an by dec/Jan they’ll be at thereheight
October 11th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Well said beach. Sunday will be one of the greatest scenes in all of sports in a black sold out stadium! All the true die hards will be there.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:12 am
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October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Raiders 42 Browns 10
Add me plz Q
Thanks
Go Raiders
October 11th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
beach Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Maybe some of you guys know each other with the jokes and teasing. I just know that I have stood by this team through thick and thin for 40 years, and I learned nothing from Al Davis. I want to win now maybe we will!! BURN AL BURN!!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
# r8dercain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Raiders 2 Browns 40
Add me plz Q
Thanks
Go CHARGERS
October 11th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
# r8dercain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Same thing goes for Pryor too!!
If the coaches think he can play QB. Than he doesn’t have my vote.No more black QB’S
I’m not a coach or GM. Iam just a fan
an that’s what I’m gonna do. Go out an root for the chargers when ever they step on the field
October 11th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I know Pryor can’t be an answer, because he’s black.
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