Players show up to talk about victory, Al Davis and fans
By Steve Corkran
Monday, October 10th, 2011 at 12:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Coach Hue Jackson gave his players “victory Monday” for their effort in a come-from-behind, 25-20 victory over the Houston Texans on Sunday. Even so, several players showed up anyway to talk about the events from the weekend.
Linebacker Bruce Davis II blocked a punt against the Texans that the Raiders parlayed into one of Sebastian Janikowski’s four field goals. Playing a pivotal role in the Raiders’ first game without managing general partner Al Davis carried added significance.
Davis II first met Al Davis when his father, Bruce, joined the Raiders in 1979 as an offensive tackle. Davis II was 2 at the time, he said.
“I don’t really remember it,” Davis II said. “There are a couple of pictures. When you’re that age, everybody is a new face and you kind of want to play with everybody. My family has pictures of it and really fond memeories of our time with Al. He’s going to be missed.”
When Davis II joined the Raiders early last season, he spoke with Mr. Davis.
“When I first got here, Al called me and the first thing he said was, ‘The last time I saw you, you were running around this facility knocking things over,’ ” Davis II said. “He’s been a part of my life and my family’s life. He gave two generations of Davis men the opportunity to live out our dreams and play football. Since I was a kid, I wanted to be a Raider. I grew up watching my dad. There’s nothing like that silver and black jersey.”
It wasn’t just Davis II that Mr. Davis had the book on. One of his endearing traits to players was his penchant for taking time to learn about a person before he introduced himself for the first time.
Safety Jerome Boyd learned about that trait when he joined the Raiders in 2009 as a practice-squad player.
“He used to come out to practices and say hi,” Boyd said. “I came in as a free agent, so I didn’t think he knew everything about me, but the first time I met him he went all the way back to my high school years. He knew about everything from my high school years till I came here for the first time. It was amazing for somebody to know everything about everybody.”
ANOTHER OIL CHANGE?
Cornerback Chris Johnson likened his groin surgery during training camp to nothing more than an “oil change.” So, what has he done to take care of the hamstring injury he suffered against the Denver Broncos and aggravated against New York Jets?
“Hamstrings happen all the time, when you’re dealing with receivers, corners, stuff like that,” Johnson said. “You’re always going to have a strain sometimes. You just have to deal with it and get by.”
Johnson said he intends to work on individual drills Wednesday and see where he’s at in terms of his recovery. There’s even a chance he will play Sunday against the Cleveland Browns.
Johnson has missed the past two games.
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Besides Davis II’s blocked punt and Janikowski’s four field goals, the Raiders turned the tide of the Texans game with another special teams gem.
This one came as a result of Rock Cartwright audibling out of a punt and into a fake, with Cartwright taking the direct snap from Jon Condo and rambling 35 yards for a first down.
“We had it last year, we had it this year,” Cartwright said. “We worked on it in practice a couple times. Same way it worked out in practice was the same way it worked out in the game.”
The Raiders were looking for a particular look from the Texans, Cartwright said. The alert was on earlier in the game, but Cartwright nixed the fake when he didn’t like what he saw from the Texans.
Finally, he liked what he saw and barked out the change with his cadence. Mike Mitchell was assigned to negate the lone defender on the edge.
“Mike Mitchell told me he would get the guy -– he was on the edge,” Cartwright said. “He did that. Give credit to him for allowing me to believe in him and in being accountable on his part. Overall, it was just a great team play, special teams play, and it turned out to be a big play for the Raiders.”
RAIDERS TOUCHED BY SUPPORT
When the Raiders returned to their year-round facility in Alameda on Sunday night, they were greeted by several hundred fans.
Davis II said he and others were touched by the show of support in light of their big victory and the passing of Davis.
“I was giving out hugs, kissing babies,” Davis II said. “It was great. When you have a fan base like that and they support you that much you just have to give back to them as much as we can. Just the few minutes of our time that we had to give to them they appreciated it so much and we appreciated them just as much.”
Rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke said he was overwhelmed by the sign-holding, screaming fans who showed up long after the game ended.
“That was the first time I’ve ever seen that my whole life, probably 300, 400 fans,” Van Dyke said. “I feel like a rock star pretty much. It was crazy. They were showing support. I stayed a couple of hours with the fans talking to them. It was humbling.”
Players described a scene in which the parking lot was overflowing, making it impossible for them to drive away for quite some time. They didn’t mind, though.
“They all had signs for Al,” Davis II said. “They were all dressed up in silver and black. It was great to see that kind of support after the emotional weekend that we had. To have all those people that are fans of this franchise and supporters of Al and his family, to have them all there meant so much to us as players and, I’m sure the Davis family and this whole organization.”
MARK DAVIS’ ROLE
Much has been made about how the organization is going to function now that Mr. Davis has passed away. He had a hand in the organization for most of the past 49 years.
Davis’ son Mark, along with Davis’ widow, Carole, inherits the stake of the franchise that Davis held for so many years. However, it remains unclear how things are going to change, if at all, moving forward.
Johnson said he doesn’t expect anything to change, at least in the short term.
“No, not at all,” Johnson said. “If anything, it’s going to be like the same. I don’t think whoever takes over, whatever the case might be, they know how Mr. Davis was and how he wanted the organization ran, how the team ran. So, whoever does the hiring is going to be (follow) that guideline.”
As for the Raiders’ style of play that became so distintive under Davis?
“We’re still, as the silver and black, going to play the same type of ball, going to be the same team,” Johnson said. “It’s just the bottom line.”
Mitchell said he now sees Mark Davis in a different light.
“Now that Mark is I guess going to be the owner — I need to stop calling him Mark, Mr. Davis – now that he’s going to be taking over, as long as I’m here that I’m going to play my heart out for the rest of my career. It’s a life-changing thing.”
Mitchell said he is forever grateful to Mr. Davis for selecting him in the second round of the NFL draft.
“I’m just a guy from a small town in Kentucky who just loves playing football,” Mitchell said. “And for Mr. Davis to take a shot on me like that, I’ve got to pay it back to him. Somehow, someway, I’ve got to pay it back to him, and the only way I know how to pay it back to him is to bring a championship to him.”
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October 10th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I’d like to see have an increased role, but when it comes down to it, why would anyone want Hue off the sidelines? Unless you’re talking about HC/GM, which is pretty unrealistic.
Even if Hue has an increased roll, that basically gives him the power that 31 other Head Coaches already have.
I think that Davis expressed to his inner circle how much he thought of Hue and that will be factored in when these decisions are made.
Remember the “secret GM” of 2 years ago? Didn’t they name that guy recently? Gotta figure he’s a candidate.
Doubt it would be someone outside the Davis tree.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I think we have the guys to get the job done they are just nowhere to be found. Its like theres 11 guys out there not knowing where they are supposed to be or where the other guys are.
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# SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Mista – in talking about that, we definitely miss Thomas Howard to some degreee. He might not have always made the tackle on backs like LT, but at least he was there to try! Lol
October 10th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Mista, Al voted democrat and the NFL is quasi-socialist. Just FYI.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Basically JC is taking our deep threat out of the equation. We need that deep threat to loosen up the Defense. Throw down the middle or rectify JaSoup ASAP!
October 10th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
WTF is quasi-socialist ?
October 10th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
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Hue Jackson will finish out this season and probably next. Al Davis gave him a 2-year contract, right?
the new GM will surely understand the unique situation he’s inherited and let Hue Jackson finish out his contract as the last Head Coach selected by Mr. Davis
if Hue does well? i’m sure he’ll get an extension. If not, the new GM brings in “his guy”
Hue Jackson went 2-2 as Head Coach while Davis was alive. That’s Tom Cable from last year – which wasn’t good enough. I doubt Davis would have HJ back if the Raiders finish 8-8 or worse this season, just saying.
“Just Win, baby” doesn’t matter what you think of Hue Jackson. If he doesn’t create a winner, he’s toast
October 10th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
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October 10th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
October 10th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
117.MistaBrown Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
If you are satisfied with this defense your only goal is to win the division not a SB. I never seen so many RB’s go uncovered out the backfield in all my life.
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we can win and we will win
October 10th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
anyways yall be good…I’m leaving work early….this schit has been tougher on me than you can imagine. I waited my whole life to see Al hold up the trophy in Oakland…its dominated my thought pattern since I was a little child…..see yall later
October 10th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
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Hue Jackson will finish out this season and probably next. Al Davis gave him a 2-year contract, right?
the new GM will surely understand the unique situation he’s inherited and let Hue Jackson finish out his contract as the last Head Coach selected by Mr. Davis
if Hue does well? i’m sure he’ll get an extension. If not, the new GM brings in “his guy”
Hue Jackson went 2-2 as Head Coach while Davis was alive. That’s Tom Cable from last year – which wasn’t good enough. I doubt Davis would have HJ back if the Raiders finish 8-8 or worse this season, just saying.
“Just Win, baby” doesn’t matter what you think of Hue Jackson. If he doesn’t create a winner, he’s toast
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You are Anti-Hue and therefore have received a -1 for this post.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I’m just a guy from a small town in Kentucky who just loves playing football,” Mitchell said. “And for Mr. Davis to take a shot on me like that, I’ve got to pay it back to him. Somehow, someway, I’ve got to pay it back to him, and the only way I know how to pay it back to him is to bring a championship to him.”
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this guy is what Al Davis is all about
October 10th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
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Enough said
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B,
What about that Hammer song at the cloiseum?
Oaktown!
lol
October 10th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Seriously, though, RRS — I agree completely with this:
“Hue Jackson will finish out this season and probably next. Al Davis gave him a 2-year contract, right?
the new GM will surely understand the unique situation he’s inherited and let Hue Jackson finish out his contract as the last Head Coach selected by Mr. Davis
if Hue does well? i’m sure he’ll get an extension. If not, the new GM brings in ‘his guy’”
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Though not som much this:
“Hue Jackson went 2-2 as Head Coach while Davis was alive. That’s Tom Cable from last year – which wasn’t good enough. I doubt Davis would have HJ back if the Raiders finish 8-8 or worse this season, just saying”
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Al gave Gruden an 8-8 season because Gruden said he could do better if some changes were made (including QB). Went 8-8 again but finished strong. The rest is history.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I’m just a guy from a small town in Kentucky who just loves playing football,” Mitchell said. “And for Mr. Davis to take a shot on me like that, I’ve got to pay it back to him. Somehow, someway, I’ve got to pay it back to him, and the only way I know how to pay it back to him is to bring a championship to him.”
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this guy is what Al Davis is all about
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Hell yeah!
That should be everyone’s mentality.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
read what our young players are saying about this team!!!
No finger pointing or wondering who will be axed. No film room brawls, or hookers getting punched by coaches. No back handed remarks about not being able to win because you cant pick the players.
These coaches and players love on another and they love Al Davis
This is one of most proud moments as a Raiders fan. The nfl will be in trouble in the very near future.
BOOK IT
October 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Be back later playerz
October 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
These coaches and players love on another
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Don’t ask, don’t tell.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
The new GM has to be a Raider guy- not an outsider. Someone close to Al.
Oakland is where the Raiders belong. A new stadium closer to downtown would be cool. walking distance in an area with bars, restaurants, etc. Pac bell is a good example.
I grew up in LA. The only team that shoud be considered there would be the Rams.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
repost -
Hue Jackson will finish out this season and probably next. Al Davis gave him a 2-year contract, right?
the new GM will surely understand the unique situation he’s inherited and let Hue Jackson finish out his contract as the last Head Coach selected by Mr. Davis
if Hue does well? i’m sure he’ll get an extension. If not, the new GM brings in “his guy”
Hue Jackson went 2-2 as Head Coach while Davis was alive. That’s Tom Cable from last year – which wasn’t good enough. I doubt Davis would have HJ back if the Raiders finish 8-8 or worse this season, just saying.
“Just Win, baby” doesn’t matter what you think of Hue Jackson. If he doesn’t create a winner, he’s toast
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You are Anti-Hue and therefore have received a -1 for this post.
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Is this a joke?
Cable never could have beaten the jets or texans.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
LA,
Al Davis didn’t tolerate losing. If Hue doesn’t win, he shouldn’t be here. period. That’s not what Al would have wanted
that isn’t hatred of Hue Jackson. that’s the truth
October 10th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
These coaches and players love on another
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Don’t ask, don’t tell.
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that tranny in the stands needs to never attend another Raider game
October 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Nice job on the turn out last night nation. that must have been fun.
You kniw what will keep the raidrs in Oakland? Sellouts… How do you get sell outs? Just Win baby!
October 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Please don’t mention Cable w/ Hue anymore
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DMAC,
we’re expected something more than 8-8, which is what we got from Cable
anything wrong with that statement?
October 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Mario Williams out for the year….wow. Bummer.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
No way Amy Trask moves the team to LA
October 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Hue has already done something we had a hrd time doing in the past – winning outside our division and he’s already done it twice.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Hi All,
I live in ND and I’ve been a reader of this blog for a long time. The events this weekend inspired me to get a user name here, and post my thoughts before I post it on a forum where I fully expect to be ridiculed. I thought it deserved to be read here first.
Expanding on the Life of Al Davis
Let me start by saying that I know a good majority of you will ridicule what I write, and that’s perfectly fine. In fact, it’s exactly how Mr. Davis would have preferred it. Most of you will not understand, and that too is fine. If you are a part of the Nation, you will know and understand exactly what I mean. If you are a fan of football, you should also know what I mean but you probably won’t because of how the media perceives Davis.
I truly believe Raider Nation is a fan base unlike any other. In fact, we aren’t a fan base – we are a family. The true members of Raider Nation live, breathe, and bleed silver and black. Al Davis created a brotherhood of rabid fans. We win together, we lose together, and we mourn together. We lost our father over the weekend, and I for one can honestly say I feel like I lost a part of me.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/10/raiders-fans-grieve-with-team-upon-return-to-oakland/
I received a text Saturday morning from one of my friends that simply said, “I’m sorry about Al.” I knew what happened without having to look, and my heart instantly fell to my stomach. I am not ashamed to admit that I even started to cry at the thought of the Raiders not having their legendary figure sitting in the skybox on game day anymore. I lost a great amount of sleep Saturday night – laying in bed thinking of all the younger generation who will remember the last 10 years and have that define who Mr. Davis was. Thinking about all the people who let the media dictate what Mr. Davis was about, rather than getting to know anything about him. All they know is what they hear, and like peons everyone takes it at face value. I’m sure Mr. Davis is fine with that, as those close and loyal to him know exactly the type of soul Al Davis has. I’ve never lost sleep because of wanting to win a football game before last Saturday. I wanted it that bad – because I know it’s the only thing in the world that Al wanted.
When Michael Huff got the last play interception and Hue Jackson along with Mark Davis were seen crying at victory, I too shed a tear then. It was a perfect way to celebrate Davis. Heyward-Bey had 7 catches for 99 yards and a TD. Janikowski was 4-4 on field goals and tied an NFL record with 3 50+ yard bombs. Richard Seymour had 2 sacks, 2 batted passes at the line, and multiple QB hurries. Michael Huff sealed the game with an interception to cap off our most emotional victory…..probably ever. It’s telling that each major factor in the game was an Al Davis draft pick (or trade in Seymour’s case) that was ridiculed by many. While taking a kicker round 1, passing on a Leinert or a Crabtree, or trading a first rounder for a “seasoned” veteran at the time may have seemed like a foolish move, it was Davis’ way of doing business. Sunday wasn’t a pretty game, but it was won the Raider way. Win at all costs – no matter how good or bad the game. It was beautiful how they all came together; even if it was only one Sunday. It was Davis’ Sunday.
To Mr. Davis: Thank you for the memories and what you’ve created. My dad is a lifelong Raiders fan – as am I. Every Sunday my son and daughter travel 30 miles with me to be with my dad and watch the Raider game. It’s a bond that connects us, and Sunday is our family time. To enjoy each other, and enjoy the team you fathered. I can honestly say a piece of me is missing, but while you may not be there physically your mystique will forever reign over the Raiders. RIP Mr Davis. You built a legacy that will live on forever. You lived, breathed, and ARE the Raiders. Now and FOREVER. God bless you.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Fk the rams. … Jacksonville is probably the team that most of l.a. would approve…. but I think its a given…that the San Diego chargers will be shoved down this city’s throat. .like it or not!!
October 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
LA,
Al Davis didn’t tolerate losing. If Hue doesn’t win, he shouldn’t be here. period. That’s not what Al would have wanted
that isn’t hatred of Hue Jackson. that’s the truth
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Its true, and its one of the reasons near the end that hurt this team so badly. Hue is the guy. Unless he has some monumental collapse in the next 27 games, then he will get his extension (in all likelyhood it will be sooner than that).
Did you even watch the game? Did you see the end? Did you see the emotion that poured out of this man? Hue Jackson is going to be the next John Madden/Tom Flores for this team. He WILL get this team a Lombardi. THIS TEAM.
I truly believe Hue will retire a Raider.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
anyways yall be good…I’m leaving work early….this schit has been tougher on me than you can imagine. I waited my whole life to see Al hold up the trophy in Oakland…its dominated my thought pattern since I was a little child…..see yall later
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Brien-
I’ve never met you, but I love you man.
Every time I read one of your posts I get teary eyed. A lot of people don’t really know what it really means to be a Raider. But you do man.
Much love and respect to you man.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Hue Jackson did earn some respect from me.
#1 the things that he said about Al Davis
#2 we won the game – not just ANY game, but against a good team that has had our number since they first entered the league
#3 the emotion that he showed afterward
Unfortunately, none of these things make him a top notch Head Coach in the NFL. It’s a long season and we’re only 5 games into it. I’m still in wait&see mode.
Stop the run = win the game. It’s that simple. Sanchez & Schaub threw for crazy yards against us and we beat them. Honestly, I think the same would have happened against New England & Buffalo
October 10th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Nice post Raiderguy10 and welcome to the blog. Most of the guys here are pretty cool but there are a few trolls. Make sure you don’t feed them. There are some knowledgable guys on here so enjoy…
October 10th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
MM #34….what a guy!
October 10th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RAIDERS TOUCHED BY SUPPORT
When the Raiders returned to their year-round facility in Alameda on Sunday night, they were greeted by several hundred fans.
Davis II said he and others were touched by the show of support in light of their big victory and the passing of Davis.
“I was giving out hugs, kissing babies,” Davis II said. “It was great. When you have a fan base like that and they support you that much you just have to give back to them as much as we can. Just the few minutes of our time that we had to give to them they appreciated it so much and we appreciated them just as much.”
Rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke said he was overwhelmed by the sign-holding, screaming fans who showed up long after the game ended.
“That was the first time I’ve ever seen that my whole life, probably 300, 400 fans,” Van Dyke said. “I feel like a rock star pretty much. It was crazy. They were showing support. I stayed a couple of hours with the fans talking to them. It was humbling.”
Players described a scene in which the parking lot was overflowing, making it impossible for them to drive away for quite some time. They didn’t mind, though.
“They all had signs for Al,” Davis II said. “They were all dressed up in silver and black. It was great to see that kind of support after the emotional weekend that we had. To have all those people that are fans of this franchise and supporters of Al and his family, to have them all there meant so much to us as players and, I’m sure the Davis family and this whole organization.”
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For those that haven’t gotten to see it yet….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf7oFS_e6_8&list=FLTYKIWClxky0lJxjjnJ8kwg&index=1
I had the opportunity to share this moment with them last night and it was priceless.
Oakland Raiders til I leave this earth!
October 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RR – passing yards per game are up everywhere – not just on us. Agree though that we have to fix that sh@t. it’s the blown coverages that get me. RB’s running out into the flat time and time again. Hated seeing that.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Raider Nation!!!
I will never forget the strong showing we had in Texas. The yelling “RAIDERS” walking down this tram to the parking lot made me feel like I was in Oakland.
Special day, with special memories, thanks.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
BCZ,
If Hue basically gets to do whatever he wants now as HC, we might as well make somebody like Matt Millen or John Hererra (promotion?) the GM … it really wouldn’t matter
Would it?
October 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Who knows, Amy Trask might talk Mark Davis into naming her as GM lol. She did try and convince Al to hire Bill Belichick…..
October 10th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
# bcz24 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
LA,
Al Davis didn’t tolerate losing. If Hue doesn’t win, he shouldn’t be here. period. That’s not what Al would have wanted
that isn’t hatred of Hue Jackson. that’s the truth
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Its true, and its one of the reasons near the end that hurt this team so badly. Hue is the guy. Unless he has some monumental collapse in the next 27 games, then he will get his extension (in all likelyhood it will be sooner than that).
Did you even watch the game? Did you see the end? Did you see the emotion that poured out of this man? Hue Jackson is going to be the next John Madden/Tom Flores for this team. He WILL get this team a Lombardi. THIS TEAM.
I truly believe Hue will retire a Raider.
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I agree 100% on this point. HU Jack was one of Davis’s final acts of brilliance!!
The nfl better get ready, because bigger stronger faster is back and better than ever
October 10th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Gonna get my “Al” decal tatoo in a few…
Any suggestions on what to put around it?
October 10th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RRS,
You have to give Hue major credit for 8-8 last year too. If it was Tom running the offense solo again, it could have been far, far worse.
Al is more patient with his guys.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Was more patient*
Dang.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I’ll admit…I’m usually too lazy to click the links that most of ya’ll post…funny huh, I’ll argue with Sullivan and Alex half a day but won’t click a link… Glad I clicked that link of yours though Arm Chair. That sh!t gave me chills! Being I’m from Louisville, that ranks right up there with the Ville closing out Freedom Hall in the very last basketball game there and smacking then #1 Syracuse a couple years back. Very emotional. Good sh!t homie!!!
October 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Thinking about Al’s wife and son today. I went through the loss of a loved one and the worst part was the days right afterwards. When reality starts to set in. it got so i didn’t want to go to sleep because i didn’t want to have to face it again in the morning. glad they have so much support.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Boomer Esiason is a major d-bag. I was watching the CBS pregame show and everybody was showing much love & respect for Al Davis … even Shannon Sharpe!
then Boomer opens his mouth and says “it makes you wonder what Hue Jackson and the staff can do, now that they aren’t micro-managed and pressed under Al’s thumb. I think there’s a real opportunity here” – nobody responded. crickets. they moved on to the next topic.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
IRaider Guy….there is nothing in your post to ridicule…. I for one agree with everything you said 100%… I will never forget this past weekend for as long as I live…. well done my friend… please post more….
October 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Who knows, Amy Trask might talk Mark Davis into naming her as GM lol. She did try and convince Al to hire Bill Belichick…..
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Isn’t Amy Trask Al Davis’s daughter?
October 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
No Dutch. She’s not.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Huff on NFLN in a few…
October 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
37.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
BCZ,
If Hue basically gets to do whatever he wants now as HC, we might as well make somebody like Matt Millen or John Hererra (promotion?) the GM … it really wouldn’t matter
Would it?
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Yeah, the product on the field would suffer if Hue was to be the GM/HC, too many hats to concentrate on. Hue’s input will be trusted more than any coach since Flores and he will work WITH a GM to get the team right. (Think Tannenbaum/Ryan) Great days are coming my Raider brethran.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders cornerback Chris Johnson said his hamstring is improving, and he intends to practice Wednesday to see how it holds up.
1 hour ago
Teams getting healthy
October 10th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chekwa and DVD is shaping up to be a good competition.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
and he will work WITH a GM to get the team right. (Think Tannenbaum/Ryan) Great days are coming my Raider brethran
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This is exactly what I’m hoping for
October 10th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Al is more patient with his guys
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LA,
Tom Cable was one of “his guys” too before he got the opportunity as Head Coach and didn’t win enough games.
Davis cared about winning – period.
Hue Jackson has every chance to rise or fall. It’s on him. I’m not going to give him an extension just because Al passed, when he’s only 5 games into a 32 game contract (hopefully more – playoffs)
October 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Loved that video. Awesome.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Boomer Esiason is a major d-bag
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Agreed.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Yeah, the product on the field would suffer if Hue was to be the GM/HC, too many hats to concentrate on. Hue’s input will be trusted more than any coach since Flores and he will work WITH a GM to get the team right. (Think Tannenbaum/Ryan) Great days are coming my Raider brethran.
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Agreed.
I’m feeling it too.
Regarding the GM.
Al made a list. Guaranteed.
They will work the list and find their guy.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
that tranny in the stands needs to never attend another Raider game
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When I saw that…that… THING on tv, I had to switch over to the PHI-BUFF game for a minute..
No way in hell that thing is a Raider fan. It dressed that way, knowing sooner or later the tv camera would find it…
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Lincoln Kennedy would make a good short term GM. real smart guy and always loyal to Al.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Boomer Esiason is a major d-bag. I was watching the CBS pregame show and everybody was showing much love & respect for Al Davis … even Shannon Sharpe!
then Boomer opens his mouth and says “it makes you wonder what Hue Jackson and the staff can do, now that they aren’t micro-managed and pressed under Al’s thumb. I think there’s a real opportunity here” – nobody responded. crickets. they moved on to the next topic.
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I would consider boomer misinformed and out of the loop. Any real raider fan knows hu and Davis were in lock step. It wasnt Hu being “micromanaged”. It was hu embracing the system and working with Davis.
We arent talking about kiff, cabel, gruden callahan, guys that thought they could do better than Davis.
boomer has missed the boat
October 10th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I believe our next two opponents will both be coming off bye weeks when we play them…..NFL screws us again lol.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
LA,
Tom Cable was one of “his guys” too before he got the opportunity as Head Coach and didn’t win enough games.
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Um…. what?
No, he wasn’t. He was a holdover from Kiffin regime. My guess is the only reason he stuck was because he had the players respect.
Al had Hue waiting in the wings as a contingiency. Of this, I am convinced.
I’m not annointing Hue and I’m not saying he should be extended right now. Let’s see how he does and whoever’s going to make these decisions will extend him if he wins.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Teams don’t always play their beast ball coming off a bye.
October 10th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Art Shell or Matt Millen for GM.
dark horse candidate: Danny Southwick
October 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
59.No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Lincoln Kennedy would make a good short term GM. real smart guy and always loyal to Al.
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Not to sound like a d1ck, but that is a ‘fan’ decision. Our next GM should meet a very specific set of criteria. Former players with no experience running a football team should not be considered.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
dark horse candidate: Danny Southwick
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LMAO!
I actually sprayed up some coffee when I read this.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Art might not be a bad choice. No to matt tho, especially after the fiasco in detroit.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Lincoln Kennedy would make a good short term GM. real smart guy and always loyal to Al.
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Lincoln is a bright thoughtful guy.
I don’t believe however, he has the “bonafides”.
Whomever they hire will be a long term proposition.
Imo
October 10th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Art Shell or Matt Millen for GM.
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Are you saying you want those people, or that those are just likely candidates? Cuz if you WANT either of them as GM, then you are a closet Broncos fan lol.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
boomer has missed the boat
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And fell in the water.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Bcz – yeah . you’re right.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Art Shell or Matt Millen for GM.
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You are joking right?
October 10th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I’ll admit…I’m usually too lazy to click the links that most of ya’ll post…funny huh, I’ll argue with Sullivan and Alex half a day but won’t click a link… Glad I clicked that link of yours though Arm Chair. That sh!t gave me chills!
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# Dakota Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Loved that video. Awesome.
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Thanks for the love guys! It was surreal. I just wish ALL of you guys could have been there.
There were so many highlights, but one that stands out to me was when I did obeisance to Jim Plunkett and told him “We Are Not Worthy”!
He smiled at me and tried to remain humble but I could tell that he appreciated it!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@60 yeah he is a tool
when George Blanda died he was doing the coverage and instead of saying George Blanda dead at 83 he said George Bland DEAD! at 83, he like yelled dead and everything else was normal tone. it rubbed me the wrong way.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
you are a closet Broncos fan
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Jarvis Moss & Cooper Carlisle got some MAJOR love on this blog last week, but none from me.
where were you?
October 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
So who gets cut to make room for Pryor? Giordano to IR perhaps.?
October 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
BCz & No Mas – hey, never know…it might be a former player with no experience. If we’re truly keeping this thing in Al’s image, everyone is a possibility. Al was all about knocking down doors and giving folks chances regardless of what was status quo
October 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
People are bagging so much on Matt millen as a possible GM for the Raiders. . I actually believe al might have given him a shot to redeem himself…. just a thought… belechick didn’t do to well after his first head coach job in Cleveland either… millen is a raider. .. always will be… honestly I would not want him… but al Davis might have given him a shot because of his loyalty.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
back to work. later gents!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
no way in hell Matt Millen becomes a GM here(i hope)
October 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
im guessing ron parker goes to make room for pryor
October 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
bottom line – the person has to know football….know Raider football….and know how to find a diamond in the rough…
October 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I like the notion of a former Raider player as GM, I just don’t know if any are available or capable.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Still like to trade for wallace up in seattle. We need olb help. maybe offer them Murphy?
October 10th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Ron Parker looked TERRIBLE trying to arm tackle on that one punt coverage play when he was the first one down there for one of Lechler’s booms. TERRIBLE
October 10th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Northern AZ Raider Fan Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
im guessing ron parker goes to make room for pryor
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I’d say this is a pretty safe bet
October 10th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Parker is fast but tackles like tissue paper.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Huff continues to be a play maker back there and still gets hated on by the nation. R Seymour does nothing but be invisible and meltdown and gets nothing but love.
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STFU. 4 tackles, 2 sacks and a tipped pass is invisible? + the refs bail the Texans out on a play late in the game where he blows Schaub up. You hated on Jankiowsky, you hated on DHB, I have never seen anyone who has no grip on what is going on. On a football field or in real life. Please just sit in the corner or take up another hobby.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
All this talk about the new guy having to “know Raider Football” is kinda scary….there should be no requirement that the new guy has to create a defense after Al Davis’ view of what a defense is like or an offense that has to feature a big QB who can throw bombs all the time (not that we have that now….Campbell sucks at the long bomb), or that we have to have a media blackout of all information.
My hope is that the team is modernized….just keep the attitude. Rich Gannon shredding the Steelers defense with 20 straight short completions is just as intimidating as some stiff throwing bombs. And a 3-4 defense taking the QB down would be just as much fun to watch as Tommy Kelly and Seymour doing the same thing.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
My hope is that the team is modernized….just keep the attitude. Rich Gannon shredding the Steelers defense with 20 straight short completions is just as intimidating as some stiff throwing bombs. And a 3-4 defense taking the QB down would be just as much fun to watch as Tommy Kelly and Seymour doing the same thing.
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YES!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
from mike silver’s article
The groundwork for such a move may already be in the works. Six months ago, Al Davis sat down with officials from AEG – including the company’s chairman, multi-billionaire developer Phil Anschutz – to discuss the possibility of the Raiders playing in a proposed downtown Los Angeles stadium, according to two sources familiar with the meeting. However, Davis balked at Anschutz’s insistence on owning a sizeable share of the franchise, and the talks went nowhere.
Technically, Al Davis’ interest in the franchise will be passed to his wife, Carol, meaning that by law Mark can run the franchise without having to pay estate taxes. Upon his mother’s death, Mark would face a potentially hefty tax bill; however, an organizational source said that Al Davis anticipated this issue and put a plan in place that should allow the team to stay in the family under that circumstance.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
All Davis has ever wanted from the team’s home city is help building a new, modern stadium and facilities.
He went to L.A. hoping to get it and went back to Oakland hoping to get it. My guess is he would’ve moved back to L.A. again since one will actually be built this time.
I like Trask’s argument that building a new stadium would be an economic boon to Oakland. Certainly couldn’t hurt anything.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
i say we share the niners stadium for a couple years while our stadium is being built in its current location.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Dakota…I don’t necessarily mean make the same moves going forward….more so, know Raider tradition and in some ways stay true to that….bottom line truthfully is winning though, and whatever wins will make Al proud at the end of the day. Hell, if the Defensive scheme gets revamped, I’m all for it. Al’s vision at the time he had it for corners was in a different league. Now, you can barely touch receivers, so of course, you have to adapt to the times, but you want the person to be a “Raider” at heart. That means no Steelers!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
the niners new stadium that is
October 10th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Northern AZ Raider Fan Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
i say we share the niners stadium for a couple years while our stadium is being built in its current location.
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As I understand it, the Niners would be willing to do that if a new Oakland stadium would ever happen
October 10th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Hue Jackson is the ultimate player’s coach, giving Rock Cartwright the power to make the call on the fake punt was pretty amazing. I thought it was Hue’s call, but sounds like he just gave Rock the alert to look for the right things. Look what Hue has done with McFadden and DHB, and the way he get the players to rebound after losses. Look at the after-game speech. The players love and respect him I think. Hue loved Al Davis and will do anything he can to bring the last team he chose to the playoffs and beyond.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
And I wouldn’t mind seeing us draft the fastest person in the draft from here on out to honor Al’s memory, no matter what school he’s from….lets just get him in the 5th round instead of the first trusting that they’ll still be there!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Hue Jackson is the ultimate player’s coach, giving Rock Cartwright the power to make the call on the fake punt was pretty amazing. I thought it was Hue’s call, but sounds like he just gave Rock the alert to look for the right things.
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What did Hue say that Al told him? “Don’t trust plays, trust your players.”
October 10th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
# Northern AZ Raider Fan Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
i say we share the niners new stadium for a couple years while our stadium is being built in its current location.
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This is one of the most logical posts I’ve read on this topic.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Treasure Island would be a good place for a shared stadium – but a traffic nightmare.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
r8eray Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am
* JON GRUDEN, former Raiders coach, Super Bowl-winning coach at Tampa Bay. Hugely popular among fans and many Raiders officials, despite his abrupt departure after the 2001 season.
Like the other guys on this coach-list, it’s difficult to bring in a pure coach like Gruden (even if you say it’s just to be GM) and still keep Jackson on board, and I think at this point, the Raiders should and will keep Jackson.
Also, Gruden is expensive.
* BILL COWHER, Super Bowl-winning coach at Pittsburgh. Very expensive and probably would have to coach, too. Unlikely.
* JEFF FISHER, longtime former Tennessee coach. Another long-time favorite of Al Davis, but again, Fisher would probably have to coach and his GM skills are unproven.
* HUE JACKSON. I think at least for a while, Jackson will be the de facto coach/GM, and if he succeeds at it, maybe the Raiders would just keep him in the role (and hire two or three aids to help with the salary cap and roster details).
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Jesus H. Christ. Gruden is possibly the worst personnel guy on the earth. Who has he ever drafted and developed? Ronde Barber, his best player, pre-dated him by 6 years. He ran two franchises right into the ground.
Cowher? A Steeler? Here? Thank God Al is gone but he is probably STILL spinning in his grave hearing you want to bring a Steeler here.
Fisher? Interesting. He is a So Cal. He does draft well. I think Bill Cowher was the guy who broke Fisher’s leg on a punt return ending his playing career. Put that one in file marked possible.
Hue Jackson? Jackson was brought here to COACH the team not be the GM.
I already told you guys there is a committee of guys running the team, that are going to continue to run the team until things go poorly. I don’t think you are going to see a new GM named any time soon. And that is probably a good thing. A new GM would want his own coach, his own players, his own philosophy, his own front office, and it would be years of upheaval. Again.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Worse case scenario….renovate sections of the coliseum one at a time and that will include a face lift also!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Treasure Island would be a good place for a shared stadium – but a traffic nightmare.
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Alcatraz would be nice….and guess what? No traffic… lol!!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Stuart Schweigert Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Hue Jackson is the ultimate player’s coach, giving Rock Cartwright the power to make the call on the fake punt was pretty amazing. I thought it was Hue’s call, but sounds like he just gave Rock the alert to look for the right things.
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It was actually Fassell who made the call. They saw some tendencies, knew it would work and Fassell told Hue to run it. Cartwright had the option to call it off if the Texan coverage unit changed up. Credit Hue for going for it, and Cartwright for executing it. To perfection.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I already told you guys there is a committee of guys running the team, that are going to continue to run the team until things go poorly. I don’t think you are going to see a new GM named any time soon. And that is probably a good thing. A new GM would want his own coach, his own players, his own philosophy, his own front office, and it would be years of upheaval. Again.
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I think the Raiders will have a GM heading into 2012.
A pre requisite of the hiring may involve Jackson and his pre determined role in the organization.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
What you must understand my friend is that The Raiders ARE Oakland, and Oakland IS The Raiders. The two are intrinsically linked.
There is no other way to put it. If a person does not understand that, then I don’t know what to say for them.
Can you imagine Yankee fans being ok with that team moving 6 hours away to Philly or even just 30 minutes away to New Jersey? Hell no.
How about the Boston Celtics moving out of the city of Boston to another East Coast city that is 6 hours away?
But wait it’s all in the East Coast right?
The Raiders and the city of Oakland are one in the same. You cannot like one but despise the other. That lack of understanding is precisely why the Raiders must stay in Oakland.
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Nobody said anything about despising Oakland. I just said I’m not specifically a fan of Oakland. I am a Raider fan. But I even said myself that I would rather The Raiders stay home in Oakland and be successful there.
Could you imagine The Oakland Raiders leaving Oakland? Yeah, because it already happened. Our beloved Al Davis moved The Raiders to LA already before so its not a ridiculous notion like the yankees or celtics moving.
I totally understand that Oakland is the home of The Raiders but there needs to be an understanding that its The RAIDER Nation not The Oakland Raider Nation. Al Davis knew that and that’s why he felt comfortable leaving the first time.
I shed a tear when I found out Al had passed because he was responsible for something I love, and I didn’t need to be from Oakland to do so.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
R8eray Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Worse case scenario….renovate sections of the coliseum one at a time and that will include a face lift also!
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Waay easier to just start over.
That would be THE worst case scenerio.
Ask any contractor.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Does anyone have a link to Greg Poppas call on the final play of the game. I’d love to hear it!!!
October 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
[...] Players show up to talk about victory, Al Davis and fans Coach Hue Jackson gave his players “victory Monday” for their effort in a come-from-behind, 25-20 victory over the Houston Texans on Sunday. Even so, several players showed up anyway to talk about the events from the weekend. Linebacker B… [...]
October 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Mike Lombardi……..Period……..
October 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Thought about Mike, but the Mike ship sailed with Gruden didn’t it? He got on Al’s bad side didn’t he?
October 10th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Thought about Mike, but the Mike ship sailed with Gruden didn’t it? He got on Al’s bad side didn’t he?
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He was Shells “fox in the hen house” for sure.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Why change?
We have a distinct style in what we do, for example. Height weight speed, bigger faster stronger. mean front four that can rush the passer, and press cover db play. Rocket arm qb that is athletic and skill guys that can score from anywhere on the field.
These are the hallmarks of the Raider tradition. We are not the browns or sehawks or vikings or any other team that is just noW beginning to or never has had a clear cut identity. We have a blue print and it works. Its working right now, if it aint broken doent fix it.
let the raiders be the raiders, forget changing to fit in with the rest.
“we dont adjust, we dominate” AL DAVIS
October 10th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Browns defensive lineman Marcus Benard was hurt in a motorcycle accident on Monday following the team’s practice, according to multiple reports in Cleveland.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Titans are looking to trade for a receiver. Should we make on offer? Schillens or Murphy for a 3rd
October 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I was so proud of the Raiders yesterday, I could’ve just burst. I cried myself, for 1/2 hour, my wife hugging me.
I’m thinking the Raiders will get 11 wins or more.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Al was always a visionary and saw where the game was headed too. No doubt he would see the trend and dawn of the super athletic tight ends and would have eventually gave the OK on more zone coverage and the defensive scheme to mix it up a little more rather than the traditional man to man coverage everywhere. Today’s LBs and safeties no matter how talented can’t cover tomorrow’s tight ends and slot receivers with today’s rules. Plain and simple
October 10th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I think the Raiders will have a GM heading into 2012.
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I would probably agree with that, but if you think they are going to pull someone from outside the organization, you are going to be very sorely disappointed. Right now the front runners would most likely be Al Saunders or young McCloughan.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I was so proud of the Raiders yesterday, I could’ve just burst. I cried myself, for 1/2 hour, my wife hugging me.
I’m thinking the Raiders will get 11 wins or more.
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This is why I like KK.
Everybody here wants to group Kell in with MR because Kell was critical of Davis.
Kell is a Raider fan.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Al was always a visionary and saw where the game was headed too. No doubt he would see the trend and dawn of the super athletic tight ends and would have eventually gave the OK on more zone coverage and the defensive scheme to mix it up a little more rather than the traditional man to man coverage everywhere. Today’s LBs and safeties no matter how talented can’t cover tomorrow’s tight ends and slot receivers with today’s rules. Plain and simple
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Hence the constant drafting of CB’s that most of you guys hated to see.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I think the Raiders will have a GM heading into 2012.
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I would probably agree with that, but if you think they are going to pull someone from outside the organization, you are going to be very sorely disappointed. Right now the front runners would most likely be Al Saunders or young McCloughan.
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My personal opinion is John Kingdom. Advanced scout and right there with Al for many years, also head of the scouting department.
October 10th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Was McCloughan the “secret GM” personnel guy they used a year or two ago?
October 10th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Thanks LA, truly appreciate it.
Mark & Carol will have plenty of good football people to call for advice. I imagine John Madden will be instrumental in the hiring of Football people for the organization., such as a GM.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
You probably would want to leave Kingdon as head of the scouting department. There is a big difference between scouting guys and making the numbers work and negotiating contracts with guys which is a major duty of the GM. Young Mc Cloughan was being groomed for that in the Whiner organization and as you guys are seeing, Davis was big on loyalty. Mc Cloughan the elder has been with the Raiders over 30 years.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Funny how everything the impostor fair weather fans hated about the way davis runs his ship, and those are exactly the things that are bringing us back from the dead,
October 10th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Nice post KK
October 10th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Dakota Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
All this talk about the new guy having to “know Raider Football” is kinda scary….there should be no requirement that the new guy has to create a defense after Al Davis’ view of what a defense is like or an offense that has to feature a big QB who can throw bombs all the time (not that we have that now….Campbell sucks at the long bomb), or that we have to have a media blackout of all information.
My hope is that the team is modernized….just keep the attitude. Rich Gannon shredding the Steelers defense with 20 straight short completions is just as intimidating as some stiff throwing bombs. And a 3-4 defense taking the QB down would be just as much fun to watch as Tommy Kelly and Seymour doing the same thing.
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I am hoping for the same thing.
I hope Hue will now have the ability to choose his own staff, including defense.
I hope the front office will stop wasting money on players like Kelly.
I hope players will be drafted on their ability to play football instead of their 40 yard dash times.
This year is in progress and there won’t be a lot of change.
However, this will be the most interesting offseason the raiders have had in 40 something years.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I would probably agree with that, but if you think they are going to pull someone from outside the organization, you are going to be very sorely disappointed. Right now the front runners would most likely be Al Saunders or young McCloughan.
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Don’t know who they have in mind.
I presume they have a list.
Whomever they decide on, I’m sure I’ll be ok with.
No worries.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Pitiful, liar
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KoolKell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I was so proud of the Raiders yesterday, I could’ve just burst. I cried myself, for 1/2 hour, my wife hugging me.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
65.bcz24 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
59.No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Lincoln Kennedy would make a good short term GM. real smart guy and always loyal to Al.
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Not to sound like a d1ck, but that is a ‘fan’ decision. Our next GM should meet a very specific set of criteria. Former players with no experience running a football team should not be considered.
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Absolutely 100% correct. The idea that the main criteria should be based on some sentimental affiliation with the team is ludicrous. Bring in a good, creative mind who can thrive in an increasingly complex and competitive environment.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
SilverLining20 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Our beloved Al Davis moved The Raiders to LA already before so its not a ridiculous notion like the yankees or celtics moving.
I totally understand that Oakland is the home of The Raiders but there needs to be an understanding that its The RAIDER Nation not The Oakland Raider Nation.
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This is where you’re wrong.
Yes Al Davis moved the team to LA. And it was the biggest mistake he ever made in my opinion. The Raiders are football’s equivalent to the Yankees or Celtics.
And just as the Celtics are forever intertwined with the city of Boston, and the Yankees are forever intertwined with the city of New York, The Raiders are intrinsically tied to the city of Oakland.
The entire identity of the team, and that Silver and Black that you say that you love, comes from the very essence of the city of Oakland itself.
No other place can provide that. I know you don’t understand that, and you possibly never will, but it is a fact. No one can change that. Oakland isn’t just some city that the Raiders HAPPEN to play in….
It is like Mecca, Saudi Arabia to Muslims. It is sacred ground to the Raiders.
Nuff Said.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
@Raiders Hue Jackson says team gets “week” exemption for reinstated @TerrellePryor as 54th man on roster
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Hue’s first move.
What player will be moved to make room for Al’s final draft pick?
October 10th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
comment120-well said.
comment107-not so well said.There would be no Nation without the original Oakland Nation.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
“We already had a plan in place…Coach (Al Davis) already taught me how to do those things.” – @Raiders Hue Jackson, on personnel role
PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
“If that’s what we decide to do…I’m open to it, and the organization is open to it.”- @RAIDERS Jackson, on bringing in football ops person
October 10th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
It’s funny to see you guys saying who the next gm should be..who we need to pay/not pay….what hue’s role should be…will the raiders stay in oakland….will the davis family still own the team.
Mr Davis knew the state of his health. He has been working with team trainers for years just to maintain his health. To think that this has not been already planned out is absurd.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
It was reported yesterday that Mark plans to bring in multiple ex players and coaches to help him run things and make the necessary hires.It was also reported that there is a list of candidates.I believe it was Lombardi who pointed out we should get someone to run the team using the same philosophy as we’ve always had.You don’t hire to run their system,they run the organizations system.For those of you who want us to become another Balt or Pitt I believe you are going to be disappointed.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
103.r8eray Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Worse case scenario….renovate sections of the coliseum one at a time and that will include a face lift also!
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Can’t renovate 1 section at a time because of the hazardous waste. lol
October 10th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
ohioraider Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
65.bcz24 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
59.No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Lincoln Kennedy would make a good short term GM. real smart guy and always loyal to Al.
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Not to sound like a d1ck, but that is a ‘fan’ decision. Our next GM should meet a very specific set of criteria. Former players with no experience running a football team should not be considered.
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Absolutely 100% correct. The idea that the main criteria should be based on some sentimental affiliation with the team is ludicrous. Bring in a good, creative mind who can thrive in an increasingly complex and competitive environment.
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I don’t think we need to have an extremely rigid adherence to the Davis Philosophy, but a loose adherence to it is absolutely necessary.
The Raiders are Al Davis. Al Davis coveted speed and physically imposing players who beat up on the guy in front of them.
You don’t like it, there’s 31 other teams out there.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
137.lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
It was reported yesterday that Mark plans to bring in multiple ex players and coaches to help him run things and make the necessary hires.It was also reported that there is a list of candidates.I believe it was Lombardi who pointed out we should get someone to run the team using the same philosophy as we’ve always had.You don’t hire to run their system,they run the organizations system.For those of you who want us to become another Balt or Pitt I believe you are going to be disappointed.
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That is at an end…sorry Lefty.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
The exemption should have been for more than a week.In the past weren’t the Stealers given 2 or 3 weeks for Ben?Weren’t other teams given 2-3 weeks?I may be wrong,but I thought that was the case.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
I’m Sure it’s been stated already but….
Does this mean Al Michaels thinks we are legit?
Not that we give a crap anyway.
R.I.P Coach Davis
October 10th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I don’t think we need to have an extremely rigid adherence to the Davis Philosophy, but a loose adherence to it is absolutely necessary.
The Raiders are Al Davis. Al Davis coveted speed and physically imposing players who beat up on the guy in front of them.
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I agree, but whoever is hired, it will be up to them to make those interpretations.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The Raiders stay where they belong, and that is Oakland.
We all know what team is going to LA. Enough of that talk.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Well I’ve been respectful enough to say I want them to stay in Oakland but, I wish the city of Oakland’s actions would speak louder than their words on the internet. I’ve watched The Raiders play in front of the most pathetic crowds in the past years on a baseball field. FAIRWEATHER.
To compare that to Mecca is offensive. But no matter what you or I say we’ll still be Raider fans so whatever as long as they keep the name colors and attitude, I don’t care where they play.
I just know that the person responsible for creating the Raiders culture that I love was a kid born in boston and raised in Brooklyn. The Oakland Raiders existed before Al Davis but they weren’t anything special.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Disagree Dakota.As Lombardi pointed out the Stealers have had the same philosophy since the 70’s.Balt. always builds their teams the same way.The attack style on offense featuring sped will always be the Raider way and those in charge aren’t going to change it,no matter what some of you fans want.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
KK, and I think whoever is hired will keep this at least partially alive, as they will be a Davis Family hire.
You’ve got to think Al had some kind of short list in mind. I’m sure there’s a plan in place.
Also, what some here fail to realize or at lease acknowledge… in terms of players, Al doesn’t get it wrong that often.
Sometimes it takes a while for them to realize their full potential, but he makes the right call more often than not. The rigid philosophies on defense can be relax but if you think about it, they really already had been the last 2 seasons.
No reason the Al Davis H/W/S model can;t be kept alive as long as those guys are football players.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
The location is perfect, they just need to spruce the place up.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
morilla Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The Raiders stay where they belong, and that is Oakland.
We all know what team is going to LA. Enough of that talk.
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The only question about the Raiders and LA is does Mark have the fight in him to sue whatever team goes there? Like his dad would have.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
The location is perfect, they just need to spruce the place up.
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there you go.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
BTW Great Job CBS in LA for leaving the game on this time but…..
Couldn’t you show the emotional ending instead of a 5 min commercial break?????????
Jackholes…baby steps…baby steps.
Chargers=Clippers
Dont want either and both SUCK!
October 10th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
JFB is correct. The O is a perfect location. Easy access, transportation and the airport 5 minutes away. Just give her some love.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Mario Williams done for season
October 10th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
No reason the Al Davis H/W/S model can;t be kept alive as long as those guys are football players.
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I think the major difference you are going to see with regards to the Raiders football operations is instead of pencils and legal pads, you are going to see laptops and etablets. Like the rest of the league uses.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Mario Williams done for season
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That’s what happens when you play the Raiders!
October 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
It shouldn’t be that difficult for the RAIDERS to continue to operate the “AL DAVIS WAY”. There are plenty of beloved ex-raiders around to lend some perspective but hell everyone knows how AL DAVIS liked to run things:
JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!
October 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
The Raiders should auction off the overhead projector. Give the proceeds to charity.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Kiffin would probably bid 500k for it!
October 10th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I think the major difference you are going to see with regards to the Raiders football operations is instead of pencils and legal pads, you are going to see laptops and etablets. Like the rest of the league uses.
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I agree, but more than that, I think you’ll see the defensive restraints relaxed and we’ll attract more free agents and more qualified DCs.
Now, if the current squad plays as well as they did yesterday and make Chuck B look good, then f it.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Kiffin’s a buster and real fans know this.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
EVERYBODY loves measurable’s.
Al was always more devout and committed to seeing those measurable’s develop, and eventually show up on the field.
DHB anyone?
October 10th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I think it’s now imperative that the Raiders stay in Oakland. I think the Raiders as we know them were a product of 3 things. Al Davis, smart personnel execs (Wolf, B. Allen, even some coaches like Madden, Flores and Gruden), and Oakland. Oakland, period.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Is it possible to build a stadium near Jack London, where all of those ships and docks are?
October 10th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
The location is perfect, they just need to spruce the place up.
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Location is perfect.
No sprucing up the place however.
The bones aren’t right.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
We might change somewhat on defense,but I hope we always run the same offense philosophy-attack,attack,attack.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Gotta give DHB props man he’s really come on as of late.The thing i like is in addition to the speed he’s a pretty strong guy who can shed the arm tackles and get downfield in a hurry. Keep up the good work DHB!!
October 10th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
146.lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Disagree Dakota.As Lombardi pointed out the Stealers have had the same philosophy since the 70’s.Balt. always builds their teams the same way.The attack style on offense featuring sped will always be the Raider way and those in charge aren’t going to change it,no matter what some of you fans want.
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I guess it depends on what philosophy exactly you are talking about Lefty. I have not seen the vertical offense succeed much over the past 25 years….so you think the new regime will want to continue using an offensive way that doesn’t work and then find themselves out of a job?
I doubt it.
If you are talking about drafting players without looking into their personal character…I think that is bye the board too.
You are not going to find someone to take the job if they are told they have to use Al’s way of doing things. Is there going to be a clause in their contract which says they keep their jobs as long as they lose Al’s way?
Other than keeping the colors, I don’t see anything that should be untouchable.
The new regime should concentrate on Al’s sayings of a commitment to excellence and just win baby. A true definition of just win baby is that it doesn’t matter what offense or defense we run, as long as it gets us Ws.
Ideals are open to interpretation.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Didn’t we change on defense already? That scheme on the last play looked awfully cover 3-ish. Looked like Huff came from over the top a little to get that.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Dakota just wants the team to move to L.A.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Allen was not a personell guy.
Contracts, and buffer between Gruden and Al.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
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I agree, but more than that, I think you’ll see the defensive restraints relaxed and we’ll attract more free agents and more qualified DCs.
Now, if the current squad plays as well as they did yesterday and make Chuck B look good, then f it
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At the end of the game Hue Jax was Screaming at Chuck B
DO NOT LET THEM IN!
hopefully now Hue can Influence the D-Scheme,
NO MORE PREVENT
October 10th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
According to NFL.com, Nick Miller is now with St. Louis.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
I was at the Jet’s game. Had a really nice time there. the Westside Club, the East Side Club, all those new restaurants around the field in those clubs……..the only thing that bothers me are the A’s infield. And, the A’s are trying to get out.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
I like the O. I love going to games there. Granted a new home would be nice but I am more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy. I think the Dallas stadium is absolutely horrible. It’s a flippin spectacle and not in a good way. It’s a joke. You have players running through restaurants and the fans watching a giant TV. It’s arrogant and screams dumb American.
We don’t need that. Keep it humble and keep it Raiders.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
How many teams have been to theSB the last 10 years?In case you forgot,we are 1 of the few that has been.The system works if you have the players.For someone who likes and knows history,you sure like to ignore it when it concerns the Raiders.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
GRUDEN MANCRUSH INCOMING!!
October 10th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Someone help me out. Was I watching a different game yesterday? After finishing my ritual of reading every post game article and analysis I’ve noticed numerous articles saying that Schaub could have walked into the end zone. Was Tyvon Branch not barrelling down on him. Had he not thrown it he would have gotten pummelled. Just curious to what game and highlights these people were watching.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
We play a lot more zone now, yeah. Last year played a ton early and didn’t do so well.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
175.lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
How many teams have been to theSB the last 10 years?In case you forgot,we are 1 of the few that has been.The system works if you have the players.For someone who likes and knows history,you sure like to ignore it when it concerns the Raiders.
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The system we went to the SB with was a little different from our traditional one don’t you agree?
October 10th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Teams are not the same after they play the Raiders, per PFT, Mario Williams out for the year needing surgery on his pecs.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Branch woulda laid the wood. Schaub didn’t have much choice. If he decided to run immediately, maybe, but Tyvon had him locked.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
We play a lot more zone now, yeah. Last year played a ton early and didn’t do so well.
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Play to the strengths of the personnel.
That is winning football.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Carlile was the wink link in the oline yesterday, followed by satelle
October 10th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
morilla Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
I like the O. I love going to games there. Granted a new home would be nice but I am more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy. I think the Dallas stadium is absolutely horrible. It’s a flippin spectacle and not in a good way. It’s a joke. You have players running through restaurants and the fans watching a giant TV. It’s arrogant and screams dumb American.
We don’t need that. Keep it humble and keep it Raiders.
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I’ve been to Reliant Stadium 4 times now. 3 times to see the Raiders and 1 to see Texas 5A State Championship Game.
It is an awesome stadium. Would love the Raiders playing in a stadium like that.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Carlile was the wink link in the oline yesterday, followed by satelle
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Fact.
I’ll be glad when those 2 are phased out.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Gotta give DHB props man he’s really come on as of late.The thing i like is in addition to the speed he’s a pretty strong guy who can shed the arm tackles and get downfield in a hurry. Keep up the good work DHB!!
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I saw flashes of a poor man’s TO on that play. Dude had a great game. I gave him crap all the time on here but I think the way we used him yesterday was perfect. Short hitches and let him run with the ball.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
SayWhat? Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Someone help me out. Was I watching a different game yesterday? After finishing my ritual of reading every post game article and analysis I’ve noticed numerous articles saying that Schaub could have walked into the end zone. Was Tyvon Branch not barrelling down on him. Had he not thrown it he would have gotten pummelled. Just curious to what game and highlights these people were watching.
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Jon Ritchie and Colin Cowherd finally made some sense out of that on Sportsnation. They pointed out that Schaub can’t run for jack and that the more athletic Branch would have smacked him.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Mcgloughan would be my candidate for the reasons you guys outlined, as he can match value to contracts, and not blow the cap. As for Art Shell, as the guy whose screen name gives tribute to him, he is not the choice. He couild not make halftime adjustments as a coach, nor could he evaluate talent (remember, he was the coach when we drafted Marinovich and not Brett Favre). No disrespect, as he is the best OT we have ever had.
Hue should get an extension just so the team knows and if we have to eat a year or so, we eat it. That said, I am a Hue Jackson fan. We need a DEF coordinator. Remember, Bresnahan was named by default, couldn’t get the guy from the Jets.
Saunders, knows his stuff, needs to be kept as Asst head coach, QB developer, and off coord, and paid well.
BTW, never too early to start scouting the draft. Especially with our record the last ten years. It was all I had to look forward too. Now, tho’ we can be 10-6 or 11-5 by beating the teams we should and splitting with San Diego.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
I’ve noticed numerous articles saying that Schaub could have walked into the end zone.
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Naw. Those articles wer all based on Tommy Kelly’s analysis of Schaub on that play. TK was wrong. Schaub would have never made the endzone.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Jon Ritchie and Colin Cowherd finally made some sense out of that on Sportsnation. They pointed out that Schaub can’t run for jack and that the more athletic Branch would have smacked him.
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Branch was closing fast. On the replay it looked obvious to me that Schaub had no chance.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Poor Coop, he made it hard for me to keep singing his praises, but I also think he got jacked on both penalties.
The DMac run was just straight ignorant of a call. Even Fouts was questioning it, and he isn’t the biggest Raids fan out there.
The two rooks played admirably in run blocking, not so much during pass protection.
Barksdale>Campbell
October 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Things started to open up for Mcfadden when barksdale came in. Vehldeer – barksdale -wiz was a nice combo and getting it done later in the game. until wiz moved to center the middle – right of the line was getting caved in
October 10th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
The run was there for a moment, but Branch did alter his intentions. For a second, I saw what you all saw, a “Where is the def moment” in that it looked like he was going to be in 3 yds in the end zone before anyone could touch him
October 10th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
It was slightly different but not that much.It was an attack offense.Since you are too young to know,it was pretty much the same thing Stabler ran in the 70’s.Run to set up the pass,controlled passing and then hit the long one.The only difference was Gannon couldn’t hit them that long,but Timmy and Rice did stretch the field.As Davis said,we don’t want 1st downs,we want TDs.Too many people think the way we played with Lamonica was the only way we played offense and that is totally inaccurate.You should have seen Blanda pick apart defenses with a short passing game then,boom.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Greg papa’s last play call: http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d822fa5f7/Raiders-defense-INT
October 10th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Barksdale>Campbell
Campbell + Barksdale > Satelle + Carlisle
October 10th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
barks wiffed on his first paly but redeemed himself pretty quickly.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
On BArksdale’s first play, he whiffed badly on a pass rush and Campbell was almost sacked. He needs to be covered up, he is not a RT, either, in terms of pass pro right now. Campbell is a monster run blocker.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Whats a drexl – those were bogus calls. that was some terrible officiating. still Coop was getting pounded and pushed around.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
194.lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
It was slightly different but not that much.It was an attack offense.Since you are too young to know,it was pretty much the same thing Stabler ran in the 70’s.Run to set up the pass,controlled passing and then hit the long one.The only difference was Gannon couldn’t hit them that long,but Timmy and Rice did stretch the field.As Davis said,we don’t want 1st downs,we want TDs.Too many people think the way we played with Lamonica was the only way we played offense and that is totally inaccurate.You should have seen Blanda pick apart defenses with a short passing game then,boom.
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I’ll take your word on it Lefty. I don’t care what system we run, as long as we win.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
The fact that Barksdale was getting run at LG tells me that Campbell is a RG only at this point, and demonstrates that His learning curve is steeper than that of Barksdale.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
On BArksdale’s first play, he whiffed badly on a pass rush and Campbell was almost sacked. He needs to be covered up, he is not a RT, either, in terms of pass pro right now. Campbell is a monster run blocker.
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I also think Campbell came in and played the next play, whist Barksdale got a quick tuning up. Then he went back in, Campbell out.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
6 tipped passes = good coaching
October 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Later gents.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I remember Stabler, best QB we ever had, and he didn’t have a big arm, he would hit Branch about 35-40 yds downfield and Branch would do the rest. He was a master at picking a team apart, especially on 3rd down.
Lil Wiz is better than I thought, even at LG. If Campbell or Barksdale can emerge as a G, then the line will be significanty better.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Campbell is a monster run blocker.
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I guarantee that Campbell will not show up on film $ yards in the backfield on his ass.
This guy is stout.
Might have issues with assignments. I don’t know.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
4 yards.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Whats a drexl – those were bogus calls. that was some terrible officiating. still Coop was getting pounded and pushed around.
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Yup Coop made it rough on me, being that I’m the only one in here that supports him.
The thing is, if Coop is as bad as most in here believe, how freaking bad must Campbell be, that he cant beat him out.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I wish I could argue the point. The training camp injury to Campbell and the lockout really worked against him.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Not interested in changing the lineup at this point. One tough game in regards to rushing the ball shouldn’t mean we start replacing guys.
The best O Lines have played together for a while.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Yup Coop made it rough on me, being that I’m the only one in here that supports him.
The thing is, if Coop is as bad as most in here believe, how freaking bad must Campbell be, that he cant beat him out.
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Vegas (Just Fire Baby) would beg to differ. He’s been singing Coops’ praises for some time now.
I like Coop. Savvy vet. There’s a reason he hasn’t been replaced yet.
Who was the O Line when McFadden broke off the 41 yarder? Was Satele in?
October 10th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
The thing is, if Coop is as bad as most in here believe, how freaking bad must Campbell be, that he cant beat him out.
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Ouch!!
October 10th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Seems like Barksdale and Bruce Camp can run block their @$$es off. Not so good in pass pro. We need guys that can do both.
Satele-Coop got us #2 in rushing last year and #1 so far this year.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
I don’t like hearing crap from Kelley. …. talking about shaub choking. … Its unnecessary and not needed.. kinda classes. .. had we lost.. our defense would have looked like the chokers…we won… don’t take away from a great int by huff.. besides branch looked like he would have stopped him short of the goal line…
October 10th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Truth be told, Coop is a wily veteran who can get you by, won’t be fooled, is a safe start, but not the physical presence one typically has associated with Raider linemen.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
It was reported yesterday that Mark plans to bring in multiple ex players and coaches to help him run things and make the necessary hires.It was also reported that there is a list of candidates.I believe it was Lombardi who pointed out we should get someone to run the team using the same philosophy as we’ve always had.You don’t hire to run their system,they run the organizations system.For those of you who want us to become another Balt or Pitt I believe you are going to be disappointed.
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I think they do things as a group, with people having input. It is a multi-tiered polycentric organization. You cant necessarily say we will become another Baltimore or Pittsburgh. I think Peter King mentioned Al Davis wanted Millen to come in and said “Can I trust you”…so the trust factor is key. Lombardi could be a candidate, Bruce Allen could be, but it would somebody who runs it in a familiar way. Jackson will have more input on players – and Rock Cartwright was a guy he had drafted when he was in Washington. Scot McCloughan is the son of Kent McCloughan, so there are ties. McCloughan is a scout up in Seattle. Jackson takes chances, so in turn they could take a chance on a GM or Pro Player Personnel person who may not have had a chance to do so. I think Madden or Ron Wolf would be tapped to seek out whom they think is a good personnel person moving forward.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Are we saying Bruce Campbell is tough? On the first play of the game on kickoff I was looking to see how the team would come out and respond to the passing of Al Davis, and what does Bruce do? He half jogs upfield and gets layed on his azz by some smaller guy. The dude is soft.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
214, I agree. But that’s Kelly’s role in the locker room. Every great team has a great sh;t-talker. As long as his teammates respond to him and he plays well on Sunday, I think we can let his comments slide.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
I could be wrong, but it seems most of DMC’s yards comes when he runs left behind Veldheer and Lil Wiz
October 10th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I wish I could argue the point. The training camp injury to Campbell and the lockout really worked against him.
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I am guilty of not reminding myself of these things I must admit.
The injury must of seriously affected his development.
Was he projected to be a project with potential, or was he supposed to step in right away, my mind is fuzzy.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Yea man… but Kelley. . Has only started playing better since Seymour got here.. we might meet that team again in the playoffs.. if we make it!! Its just stupid talk…. I assure you if we play the Texans again… their going to show those quotes to Shaub.. its not a good football move… but its on him… I guess I wish he was a little more humble but its just not in him..
October 10th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
project with potential
October 10th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Good post on the GM sit Lefty and Raider Sam. I crave real raider info
October 10th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
# SilverLining20 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Well I’ve been respectful enough to say I want them to stay in Oakland but, I wish the city of Oakland’s actions would speak louder than their words on the internet. I’ve watched The Raiders play in front of the most pathetic crowds in the past years on a baseball field. FAIRWEATHER.
To compare that to Mecca is offensive.
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You are clueless.
Mecca is the PERFECT example. That Coliseum on 66th Ave is Sacred Ground!
But you obviously know absolutely nothing about that!
Didn’t you say that you’re from North Carolina and now live in LA? So you have no clue about what I’m talking about. You probably think the Raiders are just about Jersey colors and NWA.
Trying to explain this to you is like a woman trying to explain pregnancy to a man.smh.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Raider 510 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Are we saying Bruce Campbell is tough? On the first play of the game on kickoff I was looking to see how the team would come out and respond to the passing of Al Davis, and what does Bruce do? He half jogs upfield and gets layed on his azz by some smaller guy. The dude is soft.
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You ever watch B Campbell lock on to a D lineman?
Dude is not soft.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I was so proud of the Raiders yesterday, I could’ve just burst. I cried myself, for 1/2 hour, my wife hugging me.
I’m thinking the Raiders will get 11 wins or more.
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This post makes me want to puke,
October 10th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I wish I could argue the point. The training camp injury to Campbell and the lockout really worked against him.
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I am guilty of not reminding myself of these things I must admit.
The injury must of seriously affected his development.
Was he projected to be a project with potential, or was he supposed to step in right away, my mind is fuzzy.
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Yeah, he was expected to push Cooper, and Al wanted to see what he could do.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
ArtilleryShell Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
I could be wrong, but it seems most of DMC’s yards comes when he runs left behind Veldheer and Lil Wiz
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I remarked on this a couple of weeks ago.
Also noticed that plays designed to go right are turned back and McFadden is looking for a lane to the Left.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Artillery. .. no .. its a fact that most of dmacs yards come from the left side of the oline. … the day he can start going to either side and busting loose.. is the day we have the rushing champ. .. shoot he might get it only going to left side..
October 10th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
LA or Oakland, I am Raider fan because the Raiders represent an organization not built on pretty boys or conformity, (what is wrong with this country, but another story), the Raiders were built on Rebels, all were welcome if they could coach or play, First Mexican coach etc. etc. Even towrds the end it was good to see an 80 something man still being relevant with all his scars and wrinkles, instead of being saturated with a bunch of cookie-cutter comformists. A Rebel’s perspective
October 10th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
If McFadden is right handed, and I believe he is, I guarantee he’s be more comfortable running right if the opportunity were there.
Running with the ball in your dominant hand that is protected by the sideline, is always most comfortable.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
WAD-KK didn’t hate the man,he hated the GM.He never wished ill health or even worse death like some.Now he is being respectful,also unlike some.In the end,he is a Raider fan,unlike some.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
at the risk of getting laughed off the site, Millen drafted
Charles Rogers- WR a stud who kept breaking his collar bone, cant foresee that,
Mike Williams – WR a guy they thought would give them a 3 ring cirucs of receivers along with the guy that went to the Cowboys and did nothing (he’s now with the Bears) Point: the concept was sound,
His big mistake, took a Alex Smith type QB from Oregon who was not worthy of the 3rd pick. Bottom line, i would get input and advice from him, but not give him control
October 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
The raiders must keep their identity and not be a “me-too” team. The only attribute about Davis that I hope gets minimized is the coaching turnover. I like the deep ball, speed and man defense.
I would say hire a personnel guy to be another voice in the room. Let Hue, this personnel guy and Mr. Mark Davis make big decisions. Let Hue rule on roster moves, the personnel guy on draft picks and free agents and Mr. Davis oversee and tie break
Do not let the raiders be corporate anytown team. Its Davis’ my way and unique , not follow the trend approach that has me a Raider fan
October 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
The Raiders would not be the Raiders if not for Oakland. If it were the Kansas City Raiders, fans would not have shown up to see guys with long hair, beards, afros, etc.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Matt Millen can be an assistant LB coach. That is all.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Matt Millen can be an assistant LB coach. That is all.
……….
like.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
The raiders must keep their identity and not be a “me-too” team. The only attribute about Davis that I hope gets minimized is the coaching turnover. I like the deep ball, speed and man defense.
I would say hire a personnel guy to be another voice in the room. Let Hue, this personnel guy and Mr. Mark Davis make big decisions. Let Hue rule on roster moves, the personnel guy on draft picks and free agents and Mr. Davis oversee and tie break
Do not let the raiders be corporate anytown team. Its Davis’ my way and unique , not follow the trend approach that has me a Raider fan
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Post of the day.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
qb was joey harrington wr got that big contract, after posting monster years with lions
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Believe me, no team in Oakland will ever be a “me too” team.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
To compare that to Mecca is offensive.
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You are clueless.
Mecca is the PERFECT example. That Coliseum on 66th Ave is Sacred Ground!
But you obviously know absolutely nothing about that!
Didn’t you say that you’re from North Carolina and now live in LA? So you have no clue about what I’m talking about. You probably think the Raiders are just about Jersey colors and NWA.
Trying to explain this to you is like a woman trying to explain pregnancy to a man.smh
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Wow. To know this is probably coming from a grown man worries me. I was born in LA and raised in North Carolina because my dad was in the Army, now living in LA. The Raiders were pretty much passed down to me through family being fans and exposing the Raiders to me.
Because of your ignorant comments about me thinking The Raiders are about jersey colors and NWA, I see this also as a lost argument. I appreciate your passion for the team but you obviously don’t feel the same for me because I’m not as attached to the city of Oakland.
I’ll stick to the idea that The Raiders should stay in Oakland but I will still be a Raider fan if they play elsewhere, including LA.
GO RAIDERS.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Campbell is holding the team back. DHB is actually improving-significantly so-while Campbell continues to be mediocre. We need a new QB and Pryor is NOT THE ANSWER.
Obviously, it’s hard to find a great QB. At any given time at least half of the league is hoping to get a better QB for their team. Few have an elite QB: Brees, Brady, Rivers, Manning, Rodgers.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Hue gets this team and embraced Davis and the history.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
DHB.. making me proud
October 10th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Raids 3rd in the NFL in rushing.
Attempts:150
Yards: 809
Average: 5.4
Touch Downs: 9
RUSH LEFT:
1st downs: 17
Negative plays: 7
+10 yards 11
Rush Pwr*: 40
RUSH CENTER:
1st downs: 14
Negative plays: 3
+10 yards: 6
Rush Pwr: 100
RUSH RIGHT:
1st downs: 10
Negative yards: 4
+10 yards: 7
Rush pwr: 100
SACKS: 5
QB hits: 21
Rush Pwr=Percentage of rushes on 3rd or 4th down with 2 or fewer yards to go that achieved a first down or TD. Also includes rushes on 1st-and-goal and 2nd-and-goal from the opponent’s 2-yard line or closer.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Hue gets this team and embraced Davis and the history.
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Post 1A of the day.
SnB comes correct.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
That was an awesome game, an unbelievable feeling of joy when Huff intercepted that pass.
And this is the best I have ever read in here…..
raiderguy10 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Hi All,
I live in ND and I’ve been a reader of this blog for a long time. The events this weekend inspired me to get a user name here, and post my thoughts before I post it on a forum where I fully expect to be ridiculed. I thought it deserved to be read here first.
Expanding on the Life of Al Davis
Let me start by saying that I know a good majority of you will ridicule what I write, and that’s perfectly fine. In fact, it’s exactly how Mr. Davis would have preferred it. Most of you will not understand, and that too is fine. If you are a part of the Nation, you will know and understand exactly what I mean. If you are a fan of football, you should also know what I mean but you probably won’t because of how the media perceives Davis.
I truly believe Raider Nation is a fan base unlike any other. In fact, we aren’t a fan base – we are a family. The true members of Raider Nation live, breathe, and bleed silver and black. Al Davis created a brotherhood of rabid fans. We win together, we lose together, and we mourn together. We lost our father over the weekend, and I for one can honestly say I feel like I lost a part of me.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/10/raiders-fans-grieve-with-team-upon-return-to-oakland/
I received a text Saturday morning from one of my friends that simply said, “I’m sorry about Al.” I knew what happened without having to look, and my heart instantly fell to my stomach. I am not ashamed to admit that I even started to cry at the thought of the Raiders not having their legendary figure sitting in the skybox on game day anymore. I lost a great amount of sleep Saturday night – laying in bed thinking of all the younger generation who will remember the last 10 years and have that define who Mr. Davis was. Thinking about all the people who let the media dictate what Mr. Davis was about, rather than getting to know anything about him. All they know is what they hear, and like peons everyone takes it at face value. I’m sure Mr. Davis is fine with that, as those close and loyal to him know exactly the type of soul Al Davis has. I’ve never lost sleep because of wanting to win a football game before last Saturday. I wanted it that bad – because I know it’s the only thing in the world that Al wanted.
When Michael Huff got the last play interception and Hue Jackson along with Mark Davis were seen crying at victory, I too shed a tear then. It was a perfect way to celebrate Davis. Heyward-Bey had 7 catches for 99 yards and a TD. Janikowski was 4-4 on field goals and tied an NFL record with 3 50+ yard bombs. Richard Seymour had 2 sacks, 2 batted passes at the line, and multiple QB hurries. Michael Huff sealed the game with an interception to cap off our most emotional victory…..probably ever. It’s telling that each major factor in the game was an Al Davis draft pick (or trade in Seymour’s case) that was ridiculed by many. While taking a kicker round 1, passing on a Leinert or a Crabtree, or trading a first rounder for a “seasoned” veteran at the time may have seemed like a foolish move, it was Davis’ way of doing business. Sunday wasn’t a pretty game, but it was won the Raider way. Win at all costs – no matter how good or bad the game. It was beautiful how they all came together; even if it was only one Sunday. It was Davis’ Sunday.
To Mr. Davis: Thank you for the memories and what you’ve created. My dad is a lifelong Raiders fan – as am I. Every Sunday my son and daughter travel 30 miles with me to be with my dad and watch the Raider game. It’s a bond that connects us, and Sunday is our family time. To enjoy each other, and enjoy the team you fathered. I can honestly say a piece of me is missing, but while you may not be there physically your mystique will forever reign over the Raiders. RIP Mr Davis. You built a legacy that will live on forever. You lived, breathed, and ARE the Raiders. Now and FOREVER. God bless you.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Campbell’s days are numbered, as is the case with all the scholarships.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Orthodoxdj Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Campbell is holding the team back. DHB is actually improving-significantly so-while Campbell continues to be mediocre. We need a new QB and Pryor is NOT THE ANSWER.
Obviously, it’s hard to find a great QB. At any given time at least half of the league is hoping to get a better QB for their team. Few have an elite QB: Brees, Brady, Rivers, Manning, Rodgers.
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Campbell is good enough to make as serious run in the playoffs as long as the other aspects of the team hold up.
Im not writing Pryor off. If Tebow can do what he does, Pryor has a shot to be something.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
The raiders must keep their identity and not be a “me-too” team. The only attribute about Davis that I hope gets minimized is the coaching turnover. I like the deep ball, speed and man defense.
I would say hire a personnel guy to be another voice in the room. Let Hue, this personnel guy and Mr. Mark Davis make big decisions. Let Hue rule on roster moves, the personnel guy on draft picks and free agents and Mr. Davis oversee and tie break
Do not let the raiders be corporate anytown team. Its Davis’ my way and unique , not follow the trend approach that has me a Raider fan
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That’s pretty much how it works everywhere, when it comes to the front office.
But I’m all about the Raider philosophy and brand being maintained.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
yeah yeah Soup wasn’t particularly good, but dang fellas, can’t we just have ONE day to celebrate that d@mn fine victory?
B@uce gets his props for calling out BIG JOHN Hendo!!!
That man was CODE BLACK all d@mn day yesterday!!!
RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 10th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
WAD-KK didn’t hate the man,he hated the GM.He never wished ill health or even worse death like some.Now he is being respectful,also unlike some.In the end,he is a Raider fan,unlike some.
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That is not what I have seen, but you can have your opinion about it. To me he is just another douche bag, MR type.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
JLofty has his ticket for next weeks Brownstains game.
Section 319 baby!!!! Can’t WAIT to party at the Coli with the NATION!!!!!
RIP Mr. Davis, know we gotchyo back!
October 10th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
The real question is will the Refs quit F-ing with us because they didn’t let up Sunday!
October 10th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Al Davis, Oakland, and brilliant personnel executives and/or coaches are what made the Raiders the Raiders. You take the team out of Oakland, 2 of 3 are gone.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Hey Nation
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but Magic Johnson was supposed to have been on the sideline for the last two home games. I’ve also heard that he was selling his portion of the Lakers in order to invest in an LA football team. Seems to me every day without a viable Northern CA stadium plan is a step closer to the LA Raiders part II. What do you guys think?
October 10th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
GRUDEN MANCRUSH INCOMING!
October 10th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Sullivan…
October 10th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Wow, we dropped two spots with one 94 yard game?
October 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Harken back to the late ’60s. Who in Kansas City, or Houston, or Minnesota, et al, shows up to support a sports team where players are wearing afros?
October 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
For all you Campbell detractors, he’s the ONLY raiders QB since Gannon to have a winning record as a QB 10-7 as a starter. Agreed, he isn’t an elite QB but is better than the other options that are available.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Harken back to the late ’60s. Who in Kansas City, or Houston, or Minnesota, et al, shows up to support a sports team where players are wearing afros?
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Douche bag,
October 10th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
ALL WE ASK IS THE RAIDERS TO WIN, AND THEY WON. NOW LET’S GO NATION AND SELL OUT THE HOUSE OF THRILLS SUNDAY!!! ALL BLACK.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Hey Nation
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but Magic Johnson was supposed to have been on the sideline for the last two home games. I’ve also heard that he was selling his portion of the Lakers in order to invest in an LA football team. Seems to me every day without a viable Northern CA stadium plan is a step closer to the LA Raiders part II. What do you guys think?
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Have yoy listened to the Trask interview on 95.7? Could be B.S…
http://www.957thegame.com/pages/10479257.php?contentType=34&contentId=129343
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
WAD-I’d never put them in the same category,but that is just me.To me KK is just a super frustrated fan,not a hater of the team like aliases is.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
What about Charlie Casserly as a GM? He has worked with Hue in the past with the Redskins
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
kokomo Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
For all you Campbell detractors, he’s the ONLY raiders QB since Gannon to have a winning record as a QB 10-7 as a starter. Agreed, he isn’t an elite QB but is better than the other options that are available.
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That’s just MR he has a non-ending MANCRUSH on his Garbagekowski, hates anything JC.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Maybe Mark might officially recuse himself from dad’s will when he realizes he has to buy 10,000 tickets to get Sunday’s game on t.v.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Great stat: remember, some of those power rushes were QB sneaks at least two I recall.
As for tradition, and the Raider way, we ran a 3-4 before, with REggie Kinlaw at NT, and he was “small” even back then, but he played like a Raider. I remember when we had a very different Running Game, mark Van Eeghen, and he was 4 crucial yards, found cracks and caught passes. He was a FB. Fred Biletnikoff just got open and our TE’s just got 1st downs. I don’t like the short passing game offense, but the intermediate pass is my preference vs. reliance on a low percentage play.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Harken back to the late ’60s. Who in Kansas City, or Houston, or Minnesota, et al, shows up to support a sports team where players are wearing afros?
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Ask Buck Buchannon, Willie Lanier, Allen Page, Jim Marshall, and Carl Eller.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
WAD-I’d never put them in the same category,but that is just me.To me KK is just a super frustrated fan,not a hater of the team like aliases is.
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Fair enough, to each his own.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
More proof that Mr. Davis thought about the state of the Raiders after he was gone.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2006/11/25/SPG19MJJS01.DTL
October 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
The Raiders tried moving to L.A. before. It was a fail.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Don’t EVER believe that once a lover has left you, then come back to your waiting arms, that that lover won’t do it again. Without doubt, the Raiders will leave Oakland and Northern CA if the deal is right in LA.
I am feeling as bad about losing Al as anyone since the Raiders and Al were inextricably bound–one and the same– and I have loved the Raiders since the 60s. However, I was burned once before and have been forever aware that this man (or his progeny or the proxy for his progeny) will feel perfectly justified moving again.
For a time in my youth, I felt that Oakland had the right to claim, as they did in court, that they held eminent domain over the Raiders. Having matured and grown to understand and appreciate our Constitution, I realize that Al honored that original contract with the city and the Coliseum commission and that he had every legal right to move, as the court decided he did.
However, Al told only a half truth (or, if you prefer, he committed a lie of omission) when decades ago, as he packed to leave to LA, he claimed that the City and the Commission had refused to listen to his pleas for an updated lease and changes. It’s no doubt true that the commission board thought they had him by the short hairs, thought he’d never pull up stakes and leave, thought he’d never win in court as he told them he would, but what he never did, never_ ever_ did, was launch a public relations or publicity campaign a year or two before his lease expired, to convince the fans that things were on a collision course. Al, as all of you know, was a supremely shrewd guy and he hired the best as his attorneys, chief among them the lead attorney in court, former SF mayor, Joe Alioto. Had he used Alioto or people of that caliber to conduct a publicity campaign to educate the fans of the BAy Area that the city of Oakland and the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Commission were being unreasonable and that he really_was_going_to_head_elsewhere, the cries of protest would have shaken the politicos of the city and the county to the point that they would have given him what he wanted.
That he NEVER DID THIS was always prime evidence that he really wanted to move South, saw it as a market just waiting to be tapped. The lover was just ready to move on–when he said he wanted to stay, he was really lying.
I wonder if he really understood that decades later, had he played his cards right, the commercial market of Northern CA had grown in socioeconomic power and was just as ready to be tapped? Al was bright in many ways, not so bright in others.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
The Houston gm was the best gm this TEAM played all year.
Offense scored when it counted in clutch with 2 TDs and an FG
The defense kept houston at bay. See what happens when the D keeps. It close! Offense aint puttin up 30 per gm. Get a turnover and stopped the run. Kept houston 1 dimensional
Special teams led to 6 points.
The best TEAM game of the year.
Next week you will see what happens when all three phases are all playing at their highest level TOGETHER!
October 10th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Harken back to the late ’60s. Who in Kansas City, or Houston, or Minnesota, et al, shows up to support a sports team where players are wearing afros?
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Ask Buck Buchannon, Willie Lanier, Allen Page, Jim Marshall, and Carl Eller.
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I think the AFL in general was going against the grain in terms of player appearance.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Sulivan.. Barone Sanitaion.
John Herrera as Pauly
Mark Davis – Son of Barone Sanitaion
Act 1
( Herera creeps up on Mark davis from behind and hits him in the knee with a helmet.
John Herera – “Hey mamas boy, I dont care what kind of deal you have with Goodel, every two weeks you kick 2 g’s too me!
And…Scene.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Maybe Mark might officially recuse himself from dad’s will when he realizes he has to buy 10,000 tickets to get Sunday’s game on t.v.
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Maybe you’ll eat the business end of a glock and do the entire Sac valley a favor.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Len, in the late ’60s those guys had fros? By the late ’70s the country was a lot more open minded. But the late ’60s, you still had what Nixon called the “silent majority”. You get a team full of guys who look counter-culture, fans aren’t showing up. In Oakland, it was never a problem.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
SharkCatcher, I’m hoping that’s not the scenario, either. lol.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I think the AFL in general was going against the grain in terms of player appearance.
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ding ding ding,,
October 10th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Is Drexl John Herrera? lol. Don’t worry, John. I’m sure Mark will keep you on as waterboy.
October 10th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
From the late ’60s, almost the entire Raiders team looked counter-culture. You could make a short list of the exceptions. Start with Blanda and Otto. The rest of the team looked like hippies and black panthers. If you fielded a team like that in just about any other NFL city, I think you would have had problems with attendance. And perhaps player safety.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Out.
Be good.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Is Drexl John Herrera? lol. Don’t worry, John. I’m sure Mark will keep you on as waterboy.
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I could only hope to of been Al Davis right hand cheeseburger hustling flunky. Oh the life.
Beats what you got going on douche bag.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I think the AFL in general was going against the grain in terms of player appearance.
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I think the AFL was progressive in their thought process, and mabey contrarian in a marketing sense, but ultimately, were just looking for talented players without regard to pre conceived notions of acceptance.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Whats them “sources” have to say now douche?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Why do you guys continue to allow that idiot to get you upset? Ignore him and he’s powerless…..
October 10th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Thanks, ArmChair, for that link. It was great the players responded to the fans’ passion.
Thanks, Raiderguy 10, for your thoughts. I think most of us, most sports fans in general actually, are as passionate about our teams as we are because in so many ways, they are linked to shared experiences with our loved ones, those with us, and those no longer with us. That’s how it is with me.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Krappy that’s nice you got a busboy job for the A’s, working the East and West side clubs.
I’m sure KrappyWife and her bowl cut appreciate the financial help. Even if your paycheck only covers your monthly intake of Arby’s curly fries.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
# SilverLining20 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
To compare that to Mecca is offensive.
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You are clueless.
Mecca is the PERFECT example. That Coliseum on 66th Ave is Sacred Ground!
But you obviously know absolutely nothing about that!
Didn’t you say that you’re from North Carolina and now live in LA? So you have no clue about what I’m talking about. You probably think the Raiders are just about Jersey colors and NWA.
Trying to explain this to you is like a woman trying to explain pregnancy to a man.smh
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Wow. To know this is probably coming from a grown man worries me. I was born in LA and raised in North Carolina because my dad was in the Army, now living in LA. The Raiders were pretty much passed down to me through family being fans and exposing the Raiders to me.
Because of your ignorant comments about me thinking The Raiders are about jersey colors and NWA, I see this also as a lost argument. I appreciate your passion for the team but you obviously don’t feel the same for me because I’m not as attached to the city of Oakland.
I’ll stick to the idea that The Raiders should stay in Oakland but I will still be a Raider fan if they play elsewhere, including LA.
GO RAIDERS.
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If my words seemed harsh I apologize. My comments were not meant to attack you personally.
I’m simply trying to help you understand that the Raiders are not just some team that can just hop up and move to any city and it won’t matter because they are the “Raiders”.
The Raiders and the city of Oakland are symbiotically linked, and have been since the very beginning of the teams relevance in the NFL.
Please watch this clip from the HBO documentary…
‘Rebels Of Oakland’. Pay special attention to John Madden’s comments at 2:49.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVBeFmvvYk
This is an educational tool for everyone that thinks the fairy tale that the Raiders are the same no matter where they play!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
What’s most disheartening about Al’s tolerant social views, is that it never really did catch on with the league. Al wasn’t necessarily a pioneer where being open minded about players’ social lives is concerned. He was more of a permanent exception. Cam Newton was told by his team’s owner just this year to not get tattoos.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
We will know sooner rather than later [at least for the immediate future] how or rather who will run the Raiders front office in terms of player personnel.
Mr. Pryor {Al Davis’ last draft choice] is now eligible and must be activated to the 53-man roster.
I’m sure the Raiders will get a roster exmption in the short term in light of Mr. Davis having just died, so the team can attend the memorial service/funeral together as part of Al’s family.
Someone will have to be traded, cut, or placed on IR upon Mr. Pryor’s activation.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Len, in the late ’60s those guys had fros? By the late ’70s the country was a lot more open minded. But the late ’60s, you still had what Nixon called the “silent majority”. You get a team full of guys who look counter-culture, fans aren’t showing up. In Oakland, it was never a problem.
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In Oakland it was never a problem. agreed.
It wasn’t a problem in KC nor Minnesota as well.
Take a look back at the old highlights.
Dudes were rockin the fro (not Oscar Gamble like) in many city’s.
What the guys experience was like on the streets of those city’s may have been entirely different than in Oakland.
I don’t know.
But none the less, people turned out to watch football.
In all city’s.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
We all knew it was coming. Mr Davis had a very long, frutifull life but I’m still very saddened by his loss.
A great light has gone out.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
You look at the Raiders’ teams of the ’70s, they didn’t even look like athletes. Most of them looked like regular blue collar guys. They weren’t even that big. Ron Wolf deserves a lot of credit for this because he’s the one who believes that the football player is superior to the raw athlete. They didn’t dominate a lot of games. A lot of games were actually close. They looked like they would lose most of the game…then they’d just come through at the end (kind of like Sunday?). I think that’s connected to Oakland, too. The Oakland mentality.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
The AFL signed Mike Ditka, he got a $50,000 signing bonus back in the 60’s.
Al Davis was searching to get the best football players available, including then NFL free agents, black or white.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
I don’t expect many to agree.The presense of Louis Murphy is going to open up this passing game for all the receivers. Yes,he drops a few balls here and there but so does DHB.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Well, Len, in Oakland, they were rocking the fros Oscar Gamble like.
You’re not going to tell me that other teams around the league looked as counter-culture as the Raiders in the late ’60s and early ’70s, because I know they didn’t. In the early ’70s, Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton looked very conservative next to Ken Stabler, who looked like a hells angel.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Looked to me, the Texans came into the game intent on taking away McFadden. It was successful in the first half, I would think that would be the plan, from here on out.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Right now Hue Jackson is the most powerful coach in Raiders history.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
“Oakland Pushes Ahead With New Stadium Plan For Raiders, Solo or Shared”
http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_18578965
My last comment on this for now….The Raiders will stay in Oakland. If this falls through, they will share the stadium in Santa Clara until plans for an Oakland stadium can be finalized.
Any move to LA will only be as a “Hell Hath Frozen Over” last resort move after all other options have been exhausted.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
No he isn’t.Al Davis was in 1963.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Wasn’t there talk once of the Raiders moving to Sacramento?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
HBO Documentary…”Rebels Of Oakland”. The A’s and The Raiders.
Please watch it and learn….
October 10th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
HBO Documentary…”Rebels Of Oakland”. The A’s and The Raiders.
Please watch it and learn….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVBeFmvvYk
October 10th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Does anyone know if it’s possible to build a stadium in that harbor area around Jack London?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
This is the best Monday EVER, and I NO troll in here is going to take that away from me.
I cannot WAIT to make my way to 66th and party with the NATION on Sunday….
October 10th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Lefty, you know what I mean.
No coach has had this much control since Davis left coaching.
It’s a big deal. Hue has to make his own decisions probably for the first time since 1963.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Well, Len, in Oakland, they were rocking the fros Oscar Gamble like.
You’re not going to tell me that other teams around the league looked as counter-culture as the Raiders in the late ’60s and early ’70s, because I know they didn’t. In the early ’70s, Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton looked very conservative next to Ken Stabler, who looked like a hells angel.
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No not at all.
Oakland and SF were leaders of counter culture, I get that.
Just saying give middle America a little more credit.
The ideas/ideals of the counter culture were not exclusive to one part of the country.
Woodstock took place in NY after all.
Staubach in particular, is a poor example of the overall picture of the time.
Tarkenton had some flowing locks…no?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Thanks Dutch, hadn’t heard that. She seemed sincere but who knows? Hopefully we can get a whole development in the area of the current stadium and breathe new life to that area.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Len, the point I’m making is that I don’t think any team AS counter-culture as the Raiders could have survived in the late ’60s/early ’70s in any place other than Oakland. Not even Los Angeles.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Mr. Daryle Lamonica looked like an FBI agent.
It wasn’t about politics, it’s about winning football games.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Spokane Raiders!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Len, the point I’m making is that I don’t think any team AS counter-culture as the Raiders could have survived in the late ’60s/early ’70s in any place other than Oakland. Not even Los Angeles.
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If that was your original point, I agree.
The Bay Area is a great place isn’t it!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
It’s got to be weird being in Hue’s shoes right now. Not only is he the most powerful Raider coach since Al Davis was coach himself (thank you, Lefty), he may be the most powerful coach in football! Who’s he answering to right now? Mark and Carol are now managing general partners. They’re the only two people who can fire him. And I doubt they have any plans of doing so in the near or distant future. Because of the Raiders’ structure, Al dying puts his head coach in perhaps the most powerful chair ever donned by an NFL head coach. Like I said Saturday, aside from the memorializing, which Al deserves, the story of Davis’s passing is profound on so many other levels. This is just the beginning.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Spokane Raiders!
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LOL
Do you live in Spokane? I’m from North Idaho.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
“Jon Ritchie and Colin Cowherd finally made some sense out of that on Sportsnation. They pointed out that Schaub can’t run for jack and that the more athletic Branch would have smacked him.”
Yeah, I wasn’t happy with the next morning’s articles that said Tommy Kelly said that “Shaub choked.”
The guy didn’t choke. He kept the play alive. It’s just good for us that he didn’t get anything on that throw–he had to throw backward and left it high and soft for Mike Huff to pick it.
The replays show that Branch was closing on him fast, in front of the end zone.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Mr. Daryle Lamonica looked like an FBI agent.
It wasn’t about politics, it’s about winning football games.
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I LOL when I read the Lamonica statement.
So F..ing true.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Kelly should have keep his trap shut even IF it had been true–comments like that come back to haunt teams.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Looks like Hagan will be the odd man out when Prior is activated.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
If I were Mark Davis, I would make Amy Trask GM.
I think she would kick a…
October 10th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Krappy what are you going to do now that Al’s gone?
You’ve lost your purpose in life, whining and crying all day on the blog about how successful he is.
Gotta be a bummer, huh? Now all that’s left to do is drive your shiny red Corvette in the town fair.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
That was a great video, I love underdogs. That was part of the allure to me but that doesn’t negate the fact that Al moved the team and they won outside of Oakland.
If the Raiders move to Las Vegas or Liverpool, England, nobody is ever going to forget what Oakland means to The Raiders. Its their origin. I just wouldn’t feel as easy with them moving if the city showed that kind of passion during the past bad stretch and not just started showing up because they are getting good again.
I just want them to win. I hope they stay in Oakland but I also hope the city gives them what they deserve.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
I would be interested in hearing Amy Trask’s qualifications for being a GM, as in top executive making football related decisions.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Beecham, one could just as plausibly ask what the Davis shills are going to do now.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Amy Trask is kinda like the new face of the Raiders. She is always seen at the O greeting fans and even talking to fans of the opposing teams. But, Al will always be etched in the memories of The Oakland Raiders!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Looks like Hagan will be the odd man out when Prior is activated.
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I doubt that.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Here is Kawakami’s thoughts on GM candidates:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/10/10/the-big-list-of-possible-raiders-gmadvisor-candidates-madden-mccloughan-gruden-and-more/
October 10th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Here’s a nice ESPN article on Amy Trask…
http://espn.go.com/espnw/more-sports/7022649/huddling-oakland-raiders-chief-executive-amy-trask
October 10th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Amy Trask already HAS a job. CEO of billion dollar company is a FULL time job…
October 10th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
We got three home games in a stretch of 4 weeks and one of those is a bye. This is where the team has to show that they want to do it for Al! They have to win at home and it doesn’t matter who they face! Of course winning on the road is also a must…but I as a fan and knowing what this team is capable of expect a 6-2 record heading into San Diego!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Who the hell would consider Gruden a candidate for GM? or Bill Parcells for that matter. NO THANK YOU!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
F Kawakami I hope Herrera chokes him out.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
What happened to that douche bag MR, he stop posting?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Thanks Len!
&
Yes Bigelow,
I live in Spokane, WA. I actually met a cook that worked at the Goodtymes Pub in Spokane, that also would chat on cctimes, but I think he used to fo the forum more (I used to as well, but the new beta version and the fact it does not keep the format in order by previous date regardless of replies) has kept me from using that forum but once or twice every few months.
Right now I’m in Cedar City, UT, been working from Boise to SLC, Ut for the last two weeks. I work for NORC @ the University of Chicago as a field interviewer, so I travel quite a bit.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I think Al already had someone in mind to be the GM and likely provided instruction just in case. It will likely be someone close to the Raider organization. Not some has been like Gruden or Parcells.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Right now I’m in Cedar City, UT, been working from Boise to SLC, Ut for the last two weeks. I work for NORC @ the University of Chicago as a field interviewer, so I travel quite a bit.
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I live in Chicago.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Parcells and AL had a lot of respect for each other and were great friends, I could see Bill being hired as the interim GM or President with the duty to hire a GM, with the caveat he can’t hire himself.
I wonder what the other owners are pondering?
You know they are talking to their lawyers right now.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Danny Southwick will probably be the new GM.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Could anyone tell me what Trask’s qualifications would be to be GM? As in, top football executive? Does anyone have a link to any article which clearly DETERMINES she understands NFL football as well as notably qualified GM candidates?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
To the fans in Oakland…
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!
FILL the Stadium to overflowing this Sunday against the Browns!!!!!
Make it so loud the announcers can’t talk because of the noise.
Celebrate the life of Al Davis and show this team your love!
Show the world what it means to be RAIDER NATION!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Kawakami “Will the GM work under Hue Jack?”
One of the inquiring questions idiot minds will ask
October 10th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
# SilverLining20 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
I just wouldn’t feel as easy with them moving if the city showed that kind of passion during the past bad stretch and not just started showing up because they are getting good again.
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It was the pain of The Raiders leaving in the first place that is still resonating with many people here. It has nothing to do with being fair weather.
Being a Raider is in our blood. It’s in our fiber. When the Raiders left it was like your dad leaving you and then trying to come back a decade later.
Of course you’re gonna have a little apprehension and want some questions to be answered. Because there is that fear that once you get all re-attached to him, he might leave again.
That’s how deep the relationship between us Oaklanders and the Raiders is. Like I said, many of you may not even be able to understand how deep it really is.
The closest comparison I can give you is like the Yankees or the Celtics. Could those teams WIN if you kept the entire team in tact and moved to a different city? Of course!
But the mere thought of them being in a different city sounds absurd.
It’s the same thing with the Oakland Raiders. Yeah, Al Davis did it before, but it was the biggest mistake he ever made.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Good evening everyone and Godspeed to all of you, I gotta go!
I’ll be back later tonight.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Kawakami “Will the GM work under Hue Jack?”
One of the inquiring questions idiot minds will ask
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Kawak, is at least only an idiot, Poole is a hater.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
# HueKnows Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
F Kawakami I hope Herrera chokes him out.
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I hate Kawakami. He’s always dropping little subliminal, sideways comments…
I would choke him out if I could get away with it…
October 10th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
It was the pain of The Raiders leaving in the first place that is still resonating with many people here.
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Now you’re singing MR’s tune.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Amy Trask will never be the GM.
She’s a smart lady.
I’m sure she understands Her strengths, as well as her weakness.
She, Mark, and (mabey Hue) and whomever else they confide in, will find “The Guy”
October 10th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Kawakami is a pot head. He’s probably high when he writes his articles.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
wasbanned Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
To the fans in Oakland…
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!
FILL the Stadium to overflowing this Sunday against the Browns!!!!!
Make it so loud the announcers can’t talk because of the noise.
Celebrate the life of Al Davis and show this team your love!
Show the world what it means to be RAIDER NATION!
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PS Can we an “Al Davis” chant or something ? any ideas…” al …al al al” ?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Amy Trask is more qualified than AJ Smith, Brian Xanders but maybe not Scott Pioli
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Those are the other AFC West GMs btw
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I know a lot of people who crossed over to the 9ers because Al moved the team to LA! I really have no say on that matter because I lived in Hawaii at the time and when I moved to the Bay, they were back. But, I for one will be crushed if they move the team back to LA, or anywhere for that matter…but I will never root for another team because of it! My blood has been bleeding Silver and Black since I was 5…never gonna diffuse my blood EVER!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I honestly don’t understand why Trask would be involved with the process of appointing a GM, either.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
This team is 3-2 and starring 5-2 right in the face!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Terrelle Pryor’s five-game suspension came to an end following the Raiders’ dramatic victory over the Houston Texans on Sunday.
While his suspension is officially over, Raiders coach Hue Jackson said Oakland would have a “week’s exemption” to keep him as the team’s 54th player on the roster before having to add him to the 53-man active roster.
He has not been able to practice with the team, but has been present in all team meetings and has been working out individually at the Raiders’ practice facility.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I honestly don’t understand why Trask would be involved with the process of appointing a GM, either.
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Because she has been a Raider executive for 14 years.
Are you really this clueless?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Amy Trask is more qualified than AJ Smith,
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Surely you’re joking.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Looks like Hagan will be the odd man out when Prior is activated.
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Why would you think that? He’s a productive contributor. Ricky Brown being moved to IR should have freed up a spot. If not the Tonga is the logical choice. He can be released and resigned to the PS after he clears waivers which he will.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I really have no say on that matter because I lived in Hawaii at the time and when I moved to the Bay, they were back.
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LOL, and I spent the 80’s mining in Nevada, came back to the Bay and they returned, it was like nectar.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Why would you insult pot heads like that?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
6 tipped passes = good coaching
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They should have been batting down balls more often in the previous games. If you can’t get to the QB, they need to be getting their hands up all the time!
October 10th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Surely you’re joking.
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Trust me I live in SD. All they ever do is bag on that guy down here. And with good reason have you seen there drafts?
October 10th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Amy Trask is more qualified than AJ Smith,
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“obviously”
October 10th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
their ^
October 10th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
How about DHB? Two back to back 100yd games (almost). Over 200yds in two games and here come the Brownies.
DHB is climbing the charts.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
# JB Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Looks like Hagan will be the odd man out when Prior is activated.
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Why would you think that? He’s a productive contributor. Ricky Brown being moved to IR should have freed up a spot. If not the Tonga is the logical choice. He can be released and resigned to the PS after he clears waivers which he will.
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Hagan is not going anywhere! He is a Raiders and will remain a Raider.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Yeah that would make sense if no one was showing up during the Gruden stretch when we were winning but they were, then stopped when things fell apart.
I know you love your city and The Raiders belonged to Oakland way before I became a fan so I don’t expect you to let up. But I’m just putting it out there and we disagree on the idea of The Raiders being the same somewhere else.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Despite what Chargers fans think of AJ Smith, he has won in this game. Trask more qualified than Smith? That is a joke. Considering the Raiders are second to last in profitability, I would even question Trask’s qualifications as a business executive. The only thing that would give her the benefit of the doubt in that regard is that obviously it wasn’t all her fault, as many of football decisions are to blame for the decreased profits. But then again, nobody was forcing her to stick around, either.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
How many of you were at Raider Headquarters last night to welcome the team back, after a job well done for getting a BIG win yesterday for their legendary Boss?
I attended with 3 other Nation pals and it was something I will never forget.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many balls batted down. That must be on Shaub.
I’ve got relatives in Texas, I talked to yesterday (Cowboy fans) But they were telling me Shaub is a wimp.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Seems like the Raiders were playing a lot of cover 3 yesterday, sort of tight zone coverage. Might have confused Schaub. Until Saturday, they’d prepared for a defense coordinated by Al Davis.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Terrapin – I think dhb finally put an end to the crabtree thing. Crabs has done nothing this season.
DHB > Crabtree
October 10th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Dknight007
I was out there about 2pm. I live about 1/2 mile away on Bay Farm. Brought flowers.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Detroit and da bears! Finally a mnf game I can get into. Too bad they’re not rumbling outdoors.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Kell that was not on schaub. he is tall at 6′5″ and has a high delivery. Taht was godd coaching and players responding. we have a tall D-line except for Houston.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Despite what Chargers fans think of AJ Smith, he has won in this game. Trask more qualified than Smith? That is a joke. Considering the Raiders are second to last in profitability, I would even question Trask’s qualifications as a business executive. The only thing that would give her the benefit of the doubt in that regard is that obviously it wasn’t all her fault, as many of football decisions are to blame for the decreased profits. But then again, nobody was forcing her to stick around, either.
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Wrong.
Amy is a Phi Beta Kappa lawyer with 20 years experience in the NFL and a total dedication to the Raiders.
She would do great.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
AJ= Fire Marty Hire Norv need I say more.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
*Good* sorry can’t type today.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Raiders have been batting down balls since the Bills game. They learned their lesson that game – just get your hands up. Bills completed short pass after short pass and the Raiders never got their hands up to contend.
That line is compressing the pocket almost every snap. All they have to do is get thier hands up and it makes a huge difference in the game.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Kirk, thanks for the link on the Amy Trask article.
She is impressive, the business side of the Raiders is in good hands.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
How about DHB? Two back to back 100yd games (almost). Over 200yds in two games and here come the Brownies.
DHB is climbing the charts.
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Indeed!
Very happy for the young man, and us.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Yeah, but I’ve never seen that many balls batted down.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Despite what Chargers fans think of AJ Smith, he has won in this game. Trask more qualified than Smith? That is a joke. Considering the Raiders are second to last in profitability, I would even question Trask’s qualifications as a business executive. The only thing that would give her the benefit of the doubt in that regard is that obviously it wasn’t all her fault, as many of football decisions are to blame for the decreased profits. But then again, nobody was forcing her to stick around, either.
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And heeere we gooooo, the world according to a deranged loon.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Kirk Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Despite what Chargers fans think of AJ Smith, he has won in this game. Trask more qualified than Smith? That is a joke. Considering the Raiders are second to last in profitability, I would even question Trask’s qualifications as a business executive. The only thing that would give her the benefit of the doubt in that regard is that obviously it wasn’t all her fault, as many of football decisions are to blame for the decreased profits. But then again, nobody was forcing her to stick around, either.
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SD has a larger and more wealthy population base….why do i even bother.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Me neither. Loved it though.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Kirk, could you please give me one example of Amy Trask’s football knowledge? One successful football idea that she can call her own? And, again, as far as her business sense, well…the Raiders are second to last in profitability. In what industry would that be defined as success?
October 10th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I don’t hate Amy Trask. I’ve never even seen this woman speak, never read anything she’s written. I dont’ know one thing about her. All I have is her results, and it’s not good…neither her results assuming she’s a personnel assistant, or a business executive. It’s not good, on either count.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
SD has a larger and more wealthy population base….why do i even bother.
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You realize that you are speaking with an absolute idiot, no?
October 10th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
I want to see this team blow Cleveland out of the game big time. Let it all hang out. I’m talking 59-14 sht.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Amy Trask “Mr. Davis will maintain TOTAL control of the Raiders in perpetuity. “
October 10th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Kirk do not feed the moron!! hopefully it will die a slow painful death.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
159.No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Wonder what Marcus Allen’s thoughts are. Wonder if Al had any regrets over that one.
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“My thoguhts and prayers go out to Mark and Carol during this time. I will always be grateful to Mr. Davis for the opportunity he gave me”.
-Marcus Allen on the passing of Al Davis.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
That can happen, but I hope they get all of their emotions out this week! And I know, there is gonna be a tribute to Al this week…first game home without Al!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
You realize that you are speaking with an absolute idiot, no?
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Yes. Luckily that was the last of the troll food.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Oh, ok, so we drafted JaMarcus Russell because we didn’t have the financial base that the Chargers have in SD? I mean, especially with the money we paid Russell? And you guys are insinuating I’m short sighted…
October 10th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Part of Amy’s job is to oversee marketing of the Raiders. Evidence of a good job you ask? Well there are more Raider fans world wide that just about any other sports franchise. raider merchandise is still one of the top sellers. Yes it is also her job to put butts in the seats but the team has to help. She had nothing to do with winning or losing. Oakland is a working mans town. Give them a team they can believe in and they will come. Yes, they will come.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Trading Gruden to the Bucs, the Bucs destroying us in the Super Bowl. That was all due to the fact that we just don’t have San Diego’s big money!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Hey thanks for that DJ. He’s my all time fav raider.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
On to Wiz. I know EVERYONE noticed Wiz opening up those holes at Center. That was the 1 drive where we were having consistent success running the ball. Satele is doing a good job this season but boy Wiz is something to watch out for. That kid is a baller.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Wiz is a player. So is barksdale after he settled in.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
No Mas Diamante,
The Raiders are second to last in profitability, only better than the Jacksonville Jaguars. There could be a billion Raider fans in the world. Trask’s job is to get them to spend money on the Raiders, not just boast of their fanaticism.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
2-2 in non divisional games, which is better than I would have expected (Buffalo, Jets, Pats, Texans) and 1-0 in the division thus far in which I did expect! Now we have 1 non divisional game, but another AFC opponent with 3 division games in a row! I say we can win this next 4 and possibly beat Minnesota in the Dome…they just really gotta play like they said they will…for Al, but mostly they have to believe!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
nobody is “insinuating” anything.
flat out calling you a douche bag, how ya liking them apples?
October 10th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Oakland Raiders To Honor Al Davis On October 16th Against Browns
I am sure that most of you have already heard that the Oakland Raiders will be honoring Mr. Davis’ life and memory at this Sunday’s contest against the Cleveland Browns.
The team has made it official through Twitter and I will fill you all in as details come in. I know that i will be in early in order to soak it all in. Raider Nation has never been so connected. It is as if this loss has created a black hole that is pulling everyone into the center.
If you have been affected by this weekend, then do yourself a favor and be there. Something great is brewing and I know that the fans, team and players are look at getting after it on Sunday.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
No Mas Diamante,
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Its a trap, dun do eet!!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/10/10/2482069/oakland-raiders-to-honor-al-davis-on-october-16th-against-browns
October 10th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Oct. 16th. i will be there. Bringing the wife and kid. gonna be a great day in raider lore.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Wasbanned Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Oakland Raiders To Honor Al Davis On October 16th Against Browns
I am sure that most of you have already heard that the Oakland Raiders will be honoring Mr. Davis’ life and memory at this Sunday’s contest against the Cleveland Browns.
The team has made it official through Twitter and I will fill you all in as details come in. I know that i will be in early in order to soak it all in. Raider Nation has never been so connected. It is as if this loss has created a black hole that is pulling everyone into the center.
If you have been affected by this weekend, then do yourself a favor and be there. Something great is brewing and I know that the fans, team and players are look at getting after it on Sunday.
I’ll be there! I wouldn’t miss it for the world!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Woll be rockin the white velour swetsuit with the raider patch over the heart.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
On to Wiz. I know EVERYONE noticed Wiz opening up those holes at Center. That was the 1 drive where we were having consistent success running the ball. Satele is doing a good job this season but boy Wiz is something to watch out for. That kid is a baller.
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That will show up on film.
Eventually we’ll see Wiz at C, Campbell at RG and Barksdale at either LG or RT.
That will be fun.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
No Mas Diamante, you’re spinning. I already addressed the benefit of the doubt she deserves considering the company she worked for. And my point regarding that was that nobody forced her to stay, either. She stayed all along, she’s as accountable as anyone.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Let’s think about this from Al’s point of view. Knowing Al (not personally, but historically) you have to think that a plan was laid for this day a long time ago. Mark has said he is not interested in taking over the football operations, so there has to be someone hired to handle solely that. Amy will stay in charge of the business side of things, but the decision to hire “the football guy” will be made between Amy, Mark, and possibly the other stake holders in the team. You have to think that now that Davis is gone, all the other partners are going to be wondering how their ivestment is going to be handled. Sure, Mark and Carole have final say, but money talks, and this might be a cause for issues such as moving the team and selling the team to arise. I just hope that all these issues are kept behind closed doors and they don’t spill onto the field.
They need to keep Al in mind and make a decision based on Al’s belief. That being that any decision made, will be solely made with the Raiders best interest in mind.
But like I said, I believe that Al left detailed steps on what to do when this day came. And for all we know, “a Football guy” has already been picked by Al a long time ago.
By the way, I have never seen, heard, or experience anything like how the fans reacted to Al’s passing in any other sport in any other country, ever.
This is truly one unique fanbase, culture, nation, family. RAIDER NATION!
GO RAIDERS! RIP AL!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
My wife hates football. Even she shed a tear for Al after she saw Hue adressing the team after the game. It wqas her idea to go to the game next sunday. after all these years she finally get’s it. lol
October 10th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
My wife hates football. Even she shed a tear for Al after she saw Hue adressing the team after the game. It wqas her idea to go to the game next sunday. after all these years she finally get’s it. lol
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That is awesome!! See you there!!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
@414
I read an article that basically said that AD had laid out the organization so that his wife and son would retain sole ownership with no possible way of other share holders taking control.
I don’t have a link or remember where I read that, been drinking too much.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
I had the privilege of being in Houston yesterday, but short of winning the lottery this week, have no way to get to Oakland this weekend.
Can’t wait to hear the roar of the Raider Nation on the TV!!!!!
RAIDERS roll the Browns!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
#417 – Well if that is true, then that is a classic masterfully crafted move and plan by Al. he truly was a great mind.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Amy Task deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Raiders from not going bankrupt the way Al was spending money.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
420.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Amy Task deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Raiders from not going bankrupt the way Al was spending money.
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LOL!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
How many of you were at Raider Headquarters last night to welcome the team back, after a job well done for getting a BIG win yesterday for their legendary Boss?
I attended with 3 other Nation pals and it was something I will never forget.
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I was there. It was surreal. I’m still buzzing about it right now. It was the first thing Hue mentioned in his press conference today. The team was clearly moved by it.
Hue said he had never seen nothing like that in his history in football. He said it was like the Raiders had won the Superbowl or something.
That’s the passion that we have for the Raiders here. Even Bill Romanowski commented that part of it was an outpouring and symbol of the joy that Raider Fans felt for the team because Al Davis brought them back home to Oakland.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Al already had hist list of who he wanted to succeed him. This plan started long ago. You think Al didn’t have all aspects of this org after he was gone covered? He probably started his plan as soon as he found out he was ill.
Out there right now is the GM of the Raiders. They just haven’t released the name yet.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Amy Task deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Raiders from not going bankrupt the way Al was spending money.
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LMFAO!!
Al Davis could sure go through the Benjamins!!
He must off made her so mad at times, staying on top of it.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
AMY TRASK FOR NFL EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR!!
October 10th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Raiders are 5.5 point favorites this week.
It won’t even be that close.
Raiders will dominate.
October 10th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
@414
I read an article that basically said that AD had laid out the organization so that his wife and son would retain sole ownership with no possible way of other share holders taking control.
I don’t have a link or remember where I read that, been drinking too much.
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maybe this is it. im just stoned
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October 10th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
I’d hate to be a Brownstain from Cleveland (well most any time but) this week.
It’s going to be ROCKIN @ the COLI!!!
October 10th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
This will be the first game all year that The Raiders are actually the favorites. That is how they stacked the schedule to try to bury The Raiders early and get SD off to a big lead, but The Raiders upset their plans by going 3-2 with it.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
They also gave them Cleavland with the browns coming off a bye, and then the next week gave them KC with them coming off a bye. Two weeks in a row that the opponents got an extra week to prepare.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
#Raiders safety Michael Huff said he intends to give the ball he intercepted to seal the Raiders’ victory over Texans to the Davis family.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Atta boy Huff!
October 10th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
I’m sure Cleveland browns fan is not too excited about comming to Oakland this Sunday. … if the raiders come out and play like al’s Raiders. . This game will be over by half time….. raiders cannot let this team hang around. …take them out ASAP! !
October 10th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
What do we know about Mark Davis? Does he have any kids? How big is the Davis family?
October 10th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Mark Davis is one cool cat look who his dad is.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Looks like the officials have a nice drive going against the Lions.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Koolaid…. its no secret the NFL hated al Davis. .. but al knew that…. he just dealt with and would say… OK.were going to win anyway!! I heard Tim brown talking this morning on radio… regarding the tuck rule game…. he said gruden let it slip out when gruden said..”their never going to let you guys win here”…. Tim brown couldn’t believe what he heard… gruden knew the NFL had it in for al Davis and the raiders… brown also felt disheartened to hear gruden say. .you guys….like he wasn’t a part of them…
October 10th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Mark Davis is a classically handsome man I bet he has a ton of lady friends.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Mike mayock for Gm. What u guys think
October 10th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
All props to those in Radier Nation who were there and here through thick and thin, holding the fort against all haters. You all know who you are, who insulted the faithful, what was the latest crap you called us “bootlickers”?
And yet, look around how many of certified haters are coming out in praise of Mr. Davis. FYI look at the LA Times sports’ drivel. Hear those talking radio and tv heads that mocked Mr. Davis to insanity, and now can’t get enough to say and praise. Skippy said something like that this morning.
Heard JT the Brick this afternoon in LA radio talking pretty much about this situation. I haven’t heard much from JT lately, but I know he was always there to defend Mr. Davis and the Raider Nation. All props to JT.
I’m not surprised by John Madden story, but was totally taken by Parcells’ story on Al Davis. Amazing coming from him, I didn’t know how far back they went. I know Parcells might not be a long term plan for the Raiders GM; but, it wouldn’t hurt to bring him in to workout a transition. Now that I know this story, there seems to be a lot similar traits between them.
In terms of ownership, I know that here in SoCal we want the Raiders in Farmers Field, with a partnership of the Al Davis Estate, Magic Johnson, and AEG, and take the team to corporate stratosphere, something that would look more like the Lakers. Cork wrote that he feels the Raiders will move to LA.
However, the Raiders belong in Oaktown, and the people of the Oaktown and Alameda County got to lay claim to the Raiders. Could a deal like the Green Bay Packers be possible? Would the people and community own the team? The people in Green Bay own 100,000 shares, can we find 100,000 people in Oaktown, and surrounding Freakmonts, to buy shares, let’s say at 5,000 each. And could we find 200,000 and build a state of the art stadium to stand for the next 50 years? Without a doubt, in partnership with the Davis Family Estate. Keep it real and to the people who deserve the team, Let’s all be Raiders.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Even Hue’s presser today was emotional reading. A lot of ppl just had Al all wrong. He was all about the Raiders and winning. Hue was/is the right man for the job. He understood where Davis was coming from and embrased it.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
That last Detroit play looked like raider ball in terrible colors.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Megatron is a BEAST!
October 10th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
wasbanned Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Megatron is a BEAST!
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October 10th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Tirico just said that some stats geeks (can’t remember who) calculated Calvin Johnson’s reach and vertical and determined that he could concievably catch a ball that was 12 feet in the air.
Good thing he doesn’t run a 4.3… oh, wait.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
I know hue knows he has to win… but I’m hoping he hangs with the Raiders for a long time.. win a Superbowl or two….I know for a fact that hue grew up a Raiders fan from sounth central l.a. …Dorsey high school… he talked about hopping the la memorial coliseum fence with his friends to watch the Raiders on Sundays. .. in the early 80s…. I bet al Davis got a kick outta that story. ..
October 10th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
420.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Amy Task deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Raiders from not going bankrupt the way Al was spending money.
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Interesting point. Makes me think of the president. While some blame him for the economy, it could be that he prevented it from becoming a full blown depression.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Ha ha. The Bears just tried to go Detroit Lions with the deep ball, and it was as pathetic as it sounds. Desperation, on 2. Break.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Stfu!! Sullivan44.. you loser!! How much will the Raiders lose by vs the Cleveland browns??. You stupid ahole! ! Raider hater… get outta here!” Can’t stand you man.. . ..you really have some nerve posting here!!
October 10th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Do you see the timing they have between Megatron and Stafford it’s a trustthat takes time to establish. If JC would just trust that his players would make those plays you’d see much more accurate throws. Satfford knows if he puts it up there is a 80% if caught it’ll be Megatron. That or a penalty there’s very little chance of a pick.
Yetserday JC put one up and Ford just watched as the ball was picked off. That tells JC I can’t trust him like i thought I could. Whereas Moore will go after it throwing deep is very hard because if you do it’s ahrd to gage one players speed over anothers.
Everyone was beggig JC to go deep all the time now you see why he wasn’t doing much of it. When there is not great timing between QB and WR it’s almost a throw away play.
As for the outabounds throws there is no excuse if you’re going to throw it keep it in bounds unless you know he has no chance but you can see he has very little chemistry with our rec’s.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Sullivan. .. stfu. .and learn something!” Remember trash face!! .you scum bag fool!!
October 10th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Oh yeah the O will be rockin’…It’s time we put together back to back to back wins, and etc, etc…
October 10th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
I loved that deep sideline route/pass on the final drive – second down. That is the kind of PLAY TO WIN leadership that brings teams/men together. Liked the go for 2 pts too, that was a no brainer.
Cu @ the Coli 10/16/11.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
This is the NFL. .. anything can happen. … but no doubt we will be favorite to win the next 3 home games. .. we need to get on a roll right now!! ..
October 10th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Someone mentioned earlier about the usuage of DHB and how Hue may have figured out to use him best. Using him underneath and letting him use his size and speed to break tackles to make plays is the way to go. DHB excels in that area as opposed to blazing down the field on go routes.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
You guys know that O.co is the new name of Overstock.com right? You know that website where you can buy linens, bath towels and sh!t like that right?
It’s the OAC Coli, it will NEVER be O.co anything….
October 10th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Let’s rock the Blackhole y’all don’t miss this if you do you will regret it.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Morrilla… man That dude played like a man possessed. .. he played with determination and heart…. if he played that way every week…. he would be the best receiver on the raiders.. hands down.. I ridiculed the Guy…. because he never showed hi emotion… well finally I’ve seen what I wanted. … even if he has a bad game…. from here on out… I know he can be great. .. if he plays like he did in Houston. ..please dhb. .keep it up.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
DHB is still learning y’all he’ll get better and better at all of it. Give him time he’ll get the overthe shoulder stuff down in time. The kid has a sick verticle like 42″’s it’s a matter of time before they reaally get on the same page between he and JC. He is as I’ve been saying for a year now the most physically gifted WR on this rosterall things considered. Moore is a better rec’r now but in terms of just flat out physical freak there are very few in DHb’s league. Give him time to get his game together and he is going to be a handfull.
October 10th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
stafford and mega have been healthy for like one season together
It’s just called talent.
October 10th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
DHB has looked pretty good so far this year. I think Hue and Al Saunders know how to coach and craft to specific players. Obviously…
October 10th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
455.morilla Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Someone mentioned earlier about the usuage of DHB and how Hue may have figured out to use him best. Using him underneath and letting him use his size and speed to break tackles to make plays is the way to go. DHB excels in that area as opposed to blazing down the field on go routes.
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You have a point, but also when the defense come up tight to try to take the underneath stuff away, then he can blaze past them.
October 10th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Ghost LOL you aint seen NOTHIN’ yet…………….trust me!!!
October 10th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Dhb probably played with some emotion… he was talkin trash. .. .. and jawing with the Houston CB. … .. I loved it!! … I’m telling you…. this was his first Breakout game…. afterall the crap he got from a lot… I’m a believer that he finally looks like he’s turning the corner…
October 10th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Yeah ghost, I’ve been critical of him too. But I have always wanted him to succeed. Like you said, that man was possessed yesterday. It was great to watch and a fitting day for him to excel on.
Priest, you are correct. The streak stuff takes time for some to get down and perfect. In time I think he will develop that skill set.
It’s funny how everyone says the Raiders are one dimensional and if you stop Dmac you beat the Raiders. They have no idea what’s coming with that attitude. Go ahead guys, stack the box and see what happens. We have a arsenal full of weapons Hue would love to play with.
October 10th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Funny last couple of weeks it was less than 3 seconds.
October 10th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Thanks for that video of team returning home!
October 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 10th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
On to Wiz. I know EVERYONE noticed Wiz opening up those holes at Center. That was the 1 drive where we were having consistent success running the ball. Satele is doing a good job this season but boy Wiz is something to watch out for. That kid is a baller.
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That will show up on film.
Eventually we’ll see Wiz at C, Campbell at RG and Barksdale at either LG or RT.
That will be fun.
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I like your idea. Wiz belongs at center and Barksdale at LG would make for a BIG left side of the line. I’ve been hoping BCampell could progress quicker to get him at RG. If not then Barksdale at RG and Heyer at LG with Wiz 2.0 at center. Barnes has seemed to settle down at RT and seems to be OK there for now. The main thing is to shore up the middle of the line and that begins with replacing Satele & Carlisle.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Week 15 against Detroit and that d-line I just watched is going to be a HUGH test for the Raids o-line me thinks.
Baring injuries on either side of the ball.
Those Chicago O line tackles looked like they had cement shoes. With zero help.
October 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
I always had faith in DHB and wasn’t bashful about it.
Pushing back on all the Hagen love was the only way to stay the course with Hue and AD.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Here’s some Raider love from the Nutmeg State….Been a Raider fan all my life; I had really mixed feelings about AD’s demise. When I was a kid, I was such a rabid Raider fan that I would weep for hours when they lost-covered my bedroom wall in clippings from the Daily News/NY Post the year they won Super Bowl XV, even got to MEET THE TEAM when I was 12 at Giants Stadium the last game of the year before they beat the Eggles in the SB.
Though I loved his persona when I was a kid, and he was a fellow NY-er (I was born in Queens), I just didn’t understand where he was as time went on. He spent so much time destroying the team, and making it radioactive to prospective coaches; I just couldn’t understand it. That said, he was a true visionary, and I thought it was tremendously fitting that a number of his ridiculed draftees (SeaBass, DHB and Mike Huff) all stepped up big time in Houston. RIP, Lord Vader; you’ll always be the man in Raider Nation.
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