Raiders live chat today at noon
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 at 8:52 am in Oakland Raiders.
In the aftermath of arguably the most emotional weekend in Raiders history after the passing of Al Davis, please join us for an Inside the Raiders live chat today at noon as Jerry McDonald steps in for Steve Corkran today.
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October 11th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Yaaawn.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Unless Steve can answer questions about the organization and potential GM candidates, looks like another snoozefest.
“Steve, what’s Tommy Kelly’s favorite color?”
October 11th, 2011 at 8:57 am
morilla Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am
We shouldn’t even talk about Pryor for another 2-3 years.
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Being that it is a contract year for Jason Campbell, it is a relevant topic this year.
Even if we offer Campbell a good deal, he could still leave for more money or greener pastures if he so chooses.
Plan B needs to be known immediately if not sooner.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am
We really need to OLB’s who can get to the flat and cover those RB’s..dear lord. I have never seen 2 people get out to the flat so slowly in my life.
What are Kam and Quentin looking at when they see an RB cross their face and head out to the flat..
You see that, you better get on your horse NOW and get out there with em.
Jeezus.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Rush defense improved to #22 in the league, pass defense dropped to #29.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Looking forward to the chat. It WOULD be nice if Steve weren’t so relentlessly negative about Pryor.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Raiders 38
Browns 14
October 11th, 2011 at 9:11 am
can you imagine if we picked megatron instead of jawalrus
October 11th, 2011 at 9:12 am
wow!
October 11th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Raiders 28 Browns 17
October 11th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Raider Nation-Station
HOT!~ 10-11-11: WHY TERRELLE PRYOR IS DAVIS’ PERFECT “LAST EVER” PICK
The three things that make Pryor the quintessential “Al Davis Guy”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
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I hope he works out. This would be a great legacy to Al if the kid can make it.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Jerry’s doing the chat today, not Steve.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Give it a rest haters. JC is at the helm and he is here to stay.
This is the best offense we have seen since our superbowl run. The fact that it is a very young team means they will get better with practice and game reps. Hu jack has shown he can lead a team and players to improve, its happening before our eyes so sit back and enjoy the show.
So first the complaint on Jc wqs he was “too safe” “captain check down”. Now he is throwing deep several times a game, & now your killing him because he has missed some?!?!? Deep passes are not easy and no qb will hit all of his attempts, especially a low percentage deep throw. Why do you expect JC to be perfect? The deep sideline is as much on the young wr group as it is on Jc. Jc has to lead to the sideline on most of those patterns to keep the ball away from the saftey help. The receivers need to give more cushion on the sideline to allow a pocket for the ball to be dropped into. In fariness there have been a couple that JC simply led too far to the outside, but again it is a two way street.
Jc called an audible on our final drive when he saw one on one with d moore and took a shot. That took major stones, HU jack was pissed on that play. So apparently the guy you thought JC was he really isnt at all.
You cant have it both ways haters, either he is to cautious or he isnt. What will you complain about next, maybe the waves in his hair are to crisp?
you cats sound like clowns, we are 3-2 and poised to make a run at the playoffs, only this time there is no scabkowski and cable to louse it up.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:18 am
# MikieG Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am
We really need to OLB’s who can get to the flat and cover those RB’s..dear lord. I have never seen 2 people get out to the flat so slowly in my life.
What are Kam and Quentin looking at when they see an RB cross their face and head out to the flat..
You see that, you better get on your horse NOW and get out there with em.
Jeezus.
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Looke to me that they were sucked up on play fakes selling out for the run. The bootleg really hurt but bootlegs to tight ends isnt enough to beat you if thats all you can run, especially if the run game goes nowhere.
Ill take it
October 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Mistic does have a good point. JC has been FAR more aggressive lately and has hit nice deep balls in Buffalo and NE games. Problem is being consistent.
We’ll see if he can accomplish that.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Raiders working out linebacker Prescott Burgess, formerly of the Ravens.
I’m pretty good on personnel, but even I’m thinking…”um, who?” Coming up empty.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:27 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Mistic does have a good point. JC has been FAR more aggressive lately and has hit nice deep balls in Buffalo and NE games. Problem is being consistent.
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Flores said on Sunday that while JC needs to be more accurate, his WRs have got to help him out by not running those routes so close to the sidelines.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
PA,
Heard that too (always listen to Papa and Flores regardless of who the TV broadcast team is), but he’s missed deep middle too.
He needs to get better for us to go deep into the playoffs.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Give it a rest haters. JC is at the helm and he is here to stay.
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Let’s face it, Mistic. That statement is so pre-October 8, 2011. When Al passed on, JC’s scholarship status passed with him.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Prescott Burgess
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Um… who?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Give it a rest haters. JC is at the helm and he is here to stay.
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Let’s face it, Mistic. That statement is so pre-October 8, 2011. When Al passed on, JC’s scholarship status passed with him.
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Unless Hue has faith in him.
Didn’t Hue tell Jason they could build a legacy here?
You haven’t retired yet?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Looked up Burgess’s stats. Would be a total depth pickup. Entered the league in 2007, has never started a game, amassed 35 tackles, no sacks, no INTs, no forced fumbles.
Special teamer/Ricky Brown replacement potentially is all.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:32 am
For those of you who care for such things, PFT put us at #9 in their power rankings.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
If anybody thinks that Davis didnt have a solid succession plan is a fool. davis planned for everything and back up plans for his back up plans.
1.) no need to reinvent the wheel. We have a solid blueprint already in place. the same guys that Davis took input from, his trusted hand picked scouts and coaches are still there. We dont need some one to pretend to be Davis. Davis didnt sit on a mountain and bark commands, he kept a small circle of people he trusted and relied on his own eyes and their input, then he would make the call. now HU jack will make the final call. we are in good hands.
2.)We have a tradition of our own. We are the biggest meanest fastest team and always should be. Steeler football hasnt changed since the 70’s they hit lean times but stuck to their guns. Then they found players coaches and personnel people to keep their core values and build the team based on them. Why do we need to change? The davis way still wins, and it is our unique way that makes it so special. If you turn on the tv 20 years from now you should know what to expect. we are not a team that has no discernible identity, finally we have a coach that truly embraces that legacy and truly believes in the Davis Raider way
3.) People clamoring for something new have been exposed as IMPOSTORS! This means you never did believe in the Davis way and just hung around to lay claim to our status as a former powerhouse. you thought Davis was past it and the game left him behind. you thought davis no longer could identify coaches and had burned too many bridges. you thought he had lost his ability to find talented players.
Well guess what we dont need you here!! I believe in davis and his unique brand of football and I never want my team to change.
If we are not the fastest team or the biggest or the best looking team getting off the bus, then it isnt raider football, its impostor ball.
Thank you but ill pass
October 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Terrelle Pryor vs Cam Newton….you decide!
Pryor hits around 4:52 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yTQk1Hc5-I
October 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
14. Bengals (No. 21; 3-2): Somewhere, Carson Palmer is sitting on the floor of a room, turning a lamp on and off repeatedly.
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LOL
October 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
He needs to get better for us to go deep into the playoffs.
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No argument here.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:27 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Mistic does have a good point. JC has been FAR more aggressive lately and has hit nice deep balls in Buffalo and NE games. Problem is being consistent.
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Flores said on Sunday that while JC needs to be more accurate, his WRs have got to help him out by not running those routes so close to the sidelines.
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both are true wr, must leave a bigger cushion and when there is a nice cushion JC has to drop it in.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
LA to the Bay,
Do you honestly think Jason Campbell is our starting QB for any reason other than the fact that Al wanted him there?
Hue Jackson, a reputable offensive mind, wanted Jason Campbell over everyone else? Is this why Gradkowski was subbed in for Campbell last year, under Jackson’s watch as OC?
Jason Campbell’s sole connection is no longer with us. If he doesn’t establish himself as a better than average QB by the end of this season, he’s done. He may not have that much time, considering Hue benched his ass a couple of times last year.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Mystic, I could be wrong but didn’t Hue say that he called that bomb to Moore when we should have been running out some clock? I think he gave him that look because that is something that he should be hitting…Like I said, I could be worng…
October 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Mistic, how do you know what Davis’s succession plan is?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
True, MR, but do you really want to see Boeller in there behind center?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
If we are not the fastest team or the biggest or the best looking team getting off the bus, then it isnt raider football, its impostor ball.
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We’ll catch a lot of heat for this but I must agree.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:37 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Give it a rest haters. JC is at the helm and he is here to stay.
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Let’s face it, Mistic. That statement is so pre-October 8, 2011. When Al passed on, JC’s scholarship status passed with him.
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Sulli,
why are you here bra, YOU HATED DAVIS YOU HATE THE RAIDERS YOU HATE OUR QB AND WR!
Jc isnt on scholarship he has earned his spot through production and leadership on and off the field.
what are you talking about you are an IMPOSTOR
October 11th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Whoever is the GM/Director of Football Ops needs to pick up the phone to Steve Spagnuolo to be defensive co-ordinator as soon as teh season’s done. Spags is a dead man walking in St. Louis.
HueJax + Al Saunders on offense/Spagnuolo + Mike Waufle on defense = deep playoff run, possible Super Bowl
Mmmm, tasty Kool-Aid.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Let’s take a look at Hue’s “faith” in Jason Campbell.
Last year, Hue benches Jason Campbell against the Rams…and it results in a win!
October 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Now he is throwing deep several times a game, & now your killing him because he has missed some?!?!? Deep passes are not easy and no qb will hit all of his attempts, especially a low percentage deep throw.
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I think Glo’s deep balls are terrible. I’m trying to think of one time Glo has put the ball on the WR in stride deep.
Outside of D Moore making ridiculous catches on a couple of deep balls in Buffalo, I can’t recall Glo being on point.
And it is the difference between us being good and dominant.
Al Davis drafted Pryor for a reason, Mistic. I’ll take your thoughts on why you think Pryor was drafted.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Mistic, JC was on scholarship. And his sponsor is no longer here. There is no player on the team more on the bubble than he is.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am
35.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Whoever is the GM/Director of Football Ops needs to pick up the phone to Steve Spagnuolo to be defensive co-ordinator as soon as teh season’s done. Spags is a dead man walking in St. Louis.
HueJax + Al Saunders on offense/Spagnuolo + Mike Waufle on defense = deep playoff run, possible Super Bowl
Mmmm, tasty Kool-Aid.
I was thinking about that last night…did you guys see the Lions D line…OMG! Yeah penalties glaore but Cutler really had no chance in the 2nd half!
October 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Glad to see the Raiders looking for LBs but they need something more than just a special teams guy.
My heart nearly failed when McClain limped off on Sunday.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
LA to the Bay,
Do you honestly think Jason Campbell is our starting QB for any reason other than the fact that Al wanted him there?
Hue Jackson, a reputable offensive mind, wanted Jason Campbell over everyone else? Is this why Gradkowski was subbed in for Campbell last year, under Jackson’s watch as OC?
Jason Campbell’s sole connection is no longer with us. If he doesn’t establish himself as a better than average QB by the end of this season, he’s done. He may not have that much time, considering Hue benched his ass a couple of times last year.
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SULLIVAN you are ridiculous,
didnt you also say DHB only started because of this mythical Davis scholarship mandate crap?
DHB and JC started and Davis was no longer on this earth?
Who starts on this team is up to HU jack…end of story
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Campbell is not getting benched for Boeller.
The next QB in line if Campbell isn’t extended is Pryor.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Hue’s going to give Jason the rest of this season, out of respect for “Coach”. Jason doesn’t establish himself as better than average by the end of this year, he’s gone. This is the NFL, not pop warner. Jackson has an obligation to the other 52 players to get the best QB on the field he can. Hate Warren Sapp all you want to, he said something about football players that a lot of fans don’t get. It’s not a family. It’s an army.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Here’s a question, fellas:
Let’s say Indianapolis ends up with the #1 overall pick and decide they don’t need Luck, since they have good reports on Manning’s health.
Do you give up, say 3 1sts a 2nd and maybe a player like Michael Bush to move up to #1 and draft Andrew Luck?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I’d like to see us try and trade for Curry
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
LA to the Bay,
Do you honestly think Jason Campbell is our starting QB for any reason other than the fact that Al wanted him there?
Hue Jackson, a reputable offensive mind, wanted Jason Campbell over everyone else? Is this why Gradkowski was subbed in for Campbell last year, under Jackson’s watch as OC?
Jason Campbell’s sole connection is no longer with us. If he doesn’t establish himself as a better than average QB by the end of this season, he’s done. He may not have that much time, considering Hue benched his ass a couple of times last year.
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I guess we can only take Hue and Cable at their word but it sure seemed to me like Grad was Cable’s boy and Hue just kind of backed Cable up on the move.
At any rate, that’s just a feeling.
If we go to the playoffs with Campbell, he gets extended and celebrated and rightfully so.
You don’t just find Franchise QBs lying around, so unless a blockbuster trade is in the works, Campbell is the classic Al reclamation project. Just because he’s gone doesn’t mean anything.
Again, if we’re taking Hue at face value, Al passed on a wealth of personnel knowledge to him and I have seen absolutely ZERO evidence that Hue is going to deviate from anything Al has put in place this year.
If anything, he’s gone out of his way to make sure he honor’s the Legacy and adheres to Al’s style of football.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
# hwnrdr Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Mystic, I could be wrong but didn’t Hue say that he called that bomb to Moore when we should have been running out some clock? I think he gave him that look because that is something that he should be hitting…Like I said, I could be worng…
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I read a report that said the opposite but ill take hu jack at his word, even if he was falling on the sword for his qb. Either way Jc throws deep..a lot.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:42 am
My heart nearly failed when McClain limped off on Sunday.
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Mine too.
Surprised they aren’t working out a real potential MLB this week since RoMac had to go back in and gut it out.
What if he’d snapped his ankle? Darryl Blackstock at MLB? Ugh
October 11th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Sulli,
why are you here bra, YOU HATED DAVIS YOU HATE THE RAIDERS YOU HATE OUR QB AND WR!
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Sadist, glutton for punishment, guy who stands in another man’s shadow who has accomplished much and talks sh;t.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Jason Campbell will have plenty of options at the end of this year. A lot of garbage teams out there that could use a decent starter.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Mike-Shanahan-once-ordered-Elvis-Grbac-to-throw-;_ylt=AurT8h8TA7JjBy7JvvOCEUSYvMJ_?urn=nfl-wp9245
October 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Jason Campbell will have plenty of options at the end of this year. A lot of garbage teams out there that could use a decent starter.
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Lots of potential franchise QBs coming out for those garbage teams though…Luck, Landry Jones, Matt Barkley off the top of my head
October 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Hue’s going to give Jason the rest of this season, out of respect for “Coach”.
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This is wildly wreckless speculation. Hu jack wants to win and restore the raiders. there is no agenda to appease the ghost of Davis based on who starts at qb.
Are you high already
October 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
The Colts will take Luck in a heartbeat. They need to plan for future and that is evident given the backups they have now. They would bring him and and let Manning mentor him.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
You’re right, Mistic. It’s up to HueJack. And HueJack has been running the offense since last year. Last year, he benched Campbell for Gradkowski, and the result was a win. Remember that? I’m sure Hue does.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Mistic, Hue’s so big on Campbell he benched him last year. Remember that?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
morilla Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
The Colts will take Luck in a heartbeat. They need to plan for future and that is evident given the backups they have now. They would bring him and and let Manning mentor him.
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Drafting a pro-ready QB like Luck and then sitting him for 3-5 years is a waste when they could make out like a bandit selling that pick to another team and getting some players who could help them win a Super Bowl or two with Manning
But I was speaking hypothetically anyway: would you do it?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Murphy has made big plays for us in the past. Has size, speed, and plays with passion. There’s gonna be a playing time crunch at receiver however and we gotta ask what areas can we improve? The Eagles need olineman is there a way to get a 3rd team involved and get back Nnamdi? Aaron Curry or some other OLB? Tatupu or another back up MLB?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:47 am
47.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:41 am
# hwnrdr Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Mystic, I could be wrong but didn’t Hue say that he called that bomb to Moore when we should have been running out some clock? I think he gave him that look because that is something that he should be hitting…Like I said, I could be worng…
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I read a report that said the opposite but ill take hu jack at his word, even if he was falling on the sword for his qb. Either way Jc throws deep..a lot.
Either way, I think it was a dumb call…Thank goodness Huff bailed us out! And hey, Hue could have been taking the fall for huis QB…good point!
October 11th, 2011 at 9:47 am
J Hill, I dont’ think anyone else wanted Jason Campbell when we signed him. And he hasn’t done much here to bring up his demand.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Again, if we’re taking Hue at face value, Al passed on a wealth of personnel knowledge to him and I have seen absolutely ZERO evidence that Hue is going to deviate from anything Al has put in place this year.
If anything, he’s gone out of his way to make sure he honor’s the Legacy and adheres to Al’s style of football.============================================================
This is my favorite thing about him. I was worried a few years ago when Davis fired kiffin, and hired cable. Davis didnt look good, and I worried that when he was gone true raider football would be gone with him. only to mocked as an outdated system that failed to make the transition, like beta max or, record players.
Hu jack is the guy that will keep it 100% raider football. I am very pleased to have a guy that truly believed in davis today, not just davis’s past achievements. Hu jack is Davis 2.1
October 11th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Not saying I agree with it Silver, just sayin that it might and most likely will happen. They are already talking about it up there.
I think the Colts will give the middle finger to the mcrowave generation and draft him, sit the kid and let him learn from the greatest QB to ever play.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:51 am
PA, I don’t know…I believe that if the Colts end up with #1, they take Luck. And with Luck on the board…well, he isn’t JaMarcus, that’s for sure!
October 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:47 am
J Hill, I dont’ think anyone else wanted Jason Campbell when we signed him. And he hasn’t done much here to bring up his demand.
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Took a 5-11 team and went 8-5 didn’t he?
11-7 as a starter?
Maybe off by one W or one L, but that’s not bad.
He is becoming a fantastic game manager, which is all we need on offense.
He proved he could score a TD when the run game got shut down. He had a lot of help on STU and defense but when it counted, he put us up.
He’s not elite. Don’t think anyone is arguing that. But he’s doing ok for himself.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:51 am
PA, I don’t know…I believe that if the Colts end up with #1, they take Luck. And with Luck on the board…well, he isn’t JaMarcus, that’s for sure!
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But I’m speaking hypothetically: let’s say the Raiders have that opportunity, but it’d cost 3 first rounders, a 2nd rounder and Michael Bush…would you do it? Or is it too high a price?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Wheres Prescott Burgess post
October 11th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Violent Hands,
Here: http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=1116178&nid=5774558&fhn=1
October 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am
1st round QBs are too risky of an investment. Just check the history of the draft.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am
To have a guy like Luck, I will try to trade for him, but not sure about the 3 first rounders though…but hey, that is why I am not GM…
October 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am
J Hill, I dont’ think anyone else wanted Jason Campbell when we signed him.
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Well, we traded for him, and how can we know if there were any other bidders?
It will be different when he is a FA. Teams won’t have to give up a draft pick. There a will be a few teams in the market for a stop gap QB.
Campbell is decent. But we are talking SB QB here in Oakland. There’s still a question in my mind if he can get us wins in the playoffs if he can’t start to reliably hit that deep ball.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:55 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
You’re right, Mistic. It’s up to HueJack. And HueJack has been running the offense since last year. Last year, he benched Campbell for Gradkowski, and the result was a win. Remember that? I’m sure Hue does.
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Mistic, Hue’s so big on Campbell he benched him last year. Remember that?
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sullivan this is not last year.
Since that time JC has firmly taken control of this team and offense. This is why we have seen the team make plays and win instead of folding and losing the way we have done before the arrival of hu jack and JC.
see the come back wins vs san diego and kc last year. Look no further than the jest and texans this year. Everyone that wears a raider uniform, or coaches the raiders believes in JC. it doesnt matter what a few foolish so called fans think
HU jack and JC are the biggest reasons for the resurgence of this team…period.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
1st round QBs are too risky of an investment.
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Not so much now with the rookie wage scale.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am
To have a guy like Luck, I will try to trade for him, but not sure about the 3 first rounders though…but hey, that is why I am not GM…
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Someone on NFL Network (forget who) said that from what they’ve heard, the bidding price for that #1 pick–provided the team that has it wants to move back–would start at 3 firsts and only go up from there.
Hell of a steep price, but Luck is just SO awesome. Tough call.
My guess is though, the Dolphins land there. The Colts like capable of pulling out a few wins & going 3-13; thinking it’ll be a 1-15 year in Miami
October 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Can you imagine if Tom Cable was still around? Thank God for Hue Jackson. I’ll drink to that.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
He any good or just special teams?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
HU jack and JC are the biggest reasons for the resurgence of this team…period.
Davis was right again
October 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
We have MUCH better “pieces” than Carolina and Denver.
I have to admit that what Newton and Tebow are doing have me wanting to see Pryor.
October 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
I believe that too, unless Matt Moore lights it up in Miami…how did Painter do on Sunday?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Mistic,
Why did Davis draft Pryor?
October 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Either way, I think it was a dumb call…Thank goodness Huff bailed us out!
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don’t trust the plays trust your players to make plays
October 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
With all due respect to Al Davis and his memory, without him around, Campbell no longer has a guaranteed job. Hue Jackson is football coach’s football coach if there ever was one. There are no scholarships on his squad. If Campbell doesn’t establish by the end of this season that he’s everything he was expected to be when signed, he’s out.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:03 am
80.inonewordraider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Either way, I think it was a dumb call…Thank goodness Huff bailed us out!
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don’t trust the plays trust your players to make plays
I know…I was just upset about the call…but I also know, had Moore come down with it…
October 11th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I hope Pryor has the resolve to correct his deficiencies. Even with hard work it could take awhile.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Definitely going to have to ask Jerry Mac his opinion on Pryor’s future as a QB to see if he agrees with Cork or not.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
with regards to prescott, our special teams coverage has been suspect
October 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Ive liked Prescott Burgess for a while.
Surprised were actually looking into him
October 11th, 2011 at 10:07 am
# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Mistic,
Why did Davis draft Pryor?
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my guess is, he liked his athleticism. The fact that we get compensatory picks in the up coming draft that mirrored the pick we lost when taking him made him a very low risk investment. If he cant play or his head isnt on straight you can cut bait and lose nothing. If he can play he can be a serviceable back up for JC in a couple of years.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:10 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
With all due respect to Al Davis and his memory, without him around, Campbell no longer has a guaranteed job. Hue Jackson is football coach’s football coach if there ever was one. There are no scholarships on his squad. If Campbell doesn’t establish by the end of this season that he’s everything he was expected to be when signed, he’s out.
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You arent saying anything. This goes for all players, there are no guarantees in football sully.
Jc has a firm grip on the starting qb spot, because he has earned it, thats it thats all.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Pryor doesnt impress me as a passer or a leader. he is tim tebow without the hype or the leadership quality.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Mistic, the only reason JC is our starting QB right now is because he was a Davis scholarship. That’s no longer the case. You can clearly see by Jackson benching Campbell last year that Campbell sure as hell isn’t his guy.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:14 am
If he can play he can be a serviceable back up for JC in a couple of years.
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Really?
You think Davis spent a 3rd rd pick on a guy like Pryor so he could be a backup?
I disagree.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
“I didn’t like the matchup”
“Matchup? They’re in cover 2. There’s no matchups!”
That was an exchange between Hue Jackson and Jason Campbell during the New England game, caught on live audio by NFL network.
Campbell has till the end of this season to prove he’s an NFL QB.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
the only reason JC is our starting QB right now is because he was a Davis scholarship.
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That’s ridiculous.
Campbell is starting because he is the best QB on the team right now. You can’t possibly be suggesting that Hue would prefer Boeller?
October 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Mistic, the only reason JC is our starting QB right now is because he was a Davis scholarship. That’s no longer the case. You can clearly see by Jackson benching Campbell last year that Campbell sure as hell isn’t his guy.
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why did Jc start sunday? Davis wasnt here to mandate it.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
206.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 am
201.rob_raider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 am
campbell=#16 qb 84.3 rating
mccoy=#24 qb 78.7 rating.
campbell is better.
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There are statistics, statistics, and damn lies.
At the end of the fifth week the quarterback rating for Sanchez was higher than that of Brady.
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210.rob_raider Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:56 am
brady=#2 qb 109.5 rating
sanchez=#19 qb 80.4 rating
the #’s don’t lie after 5 weeks. stats are facts. they make it impossible for people to lie and talk “opinions”. the proof is there.
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Wrong Rob.
After Week 5:
Sanchez=105.6
Brady=100.7
October 11th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Week Five power rankings
Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2011, 11:08 AM EDT
AP
1. Packers (No. 1; 5-0): Brett Favre was surprised it took the Packers so long to come back from a 14-0 deficit.
2. Saints (No. 2; 4-1): Who does Roman Harper think he is, Ken Lucas?
3. Lions (No. 3; 5-0): Calvin Johnson had only one touchdown reception last night, which will cause him to drop out of Cris Carter’s top five.
4. Bills (No. 10; 4-1): Leave it to a guy from Harvard to perfectly execute a dummy play.
5. Patriots (No. 5; 4-1): Leave it to a team from near Harvard to make the Jets look like a bunch of dummies.
6. Ravens (No. 4; 3-1): With John Harbaugh’s brother’s team at 4-1, Packers-Lions isn’t the only must-see game on Thanksgiving.
7. 49ers (No. 12; 4-1): The worst division in football is producing one of the best teams in the conference.
8. Chargers (No. 7; 4-1): A bunch of bad teams have landed in the portion of the schedule when the Chargers traditionally play badly.
9. Raiders (No. 15; 3-2): With Sebastian Janikowski and Darrius Heyward-Bey and Michael Huff showing up big for the Raiders the day after Al Davis died, perhaps it’s time to give JaMarcus Russell a second chance.
10. Texans (No. 6; 3-2): Fortunately for the Texans, everyone in the division lost.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:17 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
“I didn’t like the matchup”
“Matchup? They’re in cover 2. There’s no matchups!”
That was an exchange between Hue Jackson and Jason Campbell during the New England game, caught on live audio by NFL network.
Campbell has till the end of this season to prove he’s an NFL QB.
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common exchange found on every sideline in every game between every coordinator and qb.
you are really reaching
October 11th, 2011 at 10:18 am
The Raiders wanted the D-line to stop the run and they did that last game. Now, what is asked of the Raiders is to have better communications in the secondary and protect the middle of the field better ,be near the play to contest the player, just like they did the last play of the game. If they get better at communication a lot of plays that plague the Raiders and cause them to lose games will be minimized.The Raiders defense can match any team when they play on all cylinders.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Mistic and J Hill,
Did you guys watch that NFL network miked up show?
During the game, after the pick to Wilfork…and this is not a joke:
Campbell: “I didn’t like the match up”
Hue: “It’s cover 2. There’s no match ups”
Dude, this is a QB in the NFL, talking about match ups against a defense where everyone is playing a zone. Seriously. Most high school QBs understand that. Campbell doesn’t…and he’s a 7 year veteran in the NFL! The Al Davis scholarship has till the end of this year. He’s only getting that long out of respect for Al.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:20 am
JC has his ups and downs he makes some good plays then he makes some mistakes.
I have said many times in here that I think he is a slightly above average QB.
He is not the kind of QB who can carry a team on his shoulders alone. He has not helped in the development of DHB and he does have problems with the deep ball at times.
However that being said he is our starting QB and will be for the rest of the season. He has shown a lot of improvement in many areas and if he continues to improve he can lead us to the promise land I am behind him succeeding 100%.
Lastly MR I have told you many times this week to shut up and stay out of here and leave us alone in this time of our loss and grieving. It is the single most classless act I have ever witnessed when you come in here and spew hate to a person very close to our hearts that has just passed away and we are all obviously still grieving.
Seriously the most classless act I have ever witnessed!
October 11th, 2011 at 10:20 am
89.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Pryor doesnt impress me as a passer or a leader. he is tim tebow without the hype or the leadership quality.
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Defenses having to account for Pryor’s ability to improvise with his legs is what makes him similar to Newton and Tebow.
I didn’t see much of him in college, so I can’t really comment on his passing ability. I do know the defenses are going to have to account for Pryor and that will open up things for other players.
If JC can get more reliable with his deep ball, this may be a non issue. But Sulli is right about that exchange between Hue and Glo about the Cover 2 in the Pats game.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Way too much wasted breath on Jason Campbell in this blog. He is what he is, a decent game manager who normally doesn’t turn the ball over and rarely gets over 200 yards passing, despite this being a pass oriented league.
Right now he is the best we have, but in no way, shape or form should management not be looking for his replacement because there is no way he is taking a team to the Super Bowl….which is the ultimate goal correct?
We can live with him for this year, but if this team is to take the next step we need a better QB. We may need Campbell back next year if a viable option is not on the market come February-April.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Ha ha ha!
Common exchange…
Mistic, tell me one other incident caught on one of those miked up shows where a QB didn’t understand that there’s no such thing as a match up against a cover 2 defense. And if you can find one, tell me if that QB is still in the league.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:22 am
perhaps it’s time to give JaMarcus Russell a second chance.
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LOL!
October 11th, 2011 at 10:23 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:20 am
JC has his ups and downs he makes some good plays then he makes some mistakes.
I have said many times in here that I think he is a slightly above average QB.
He is not the kind of QB who can carry a team on his shoulders alone. He has not helped in the development of DHB and he does have problems with the deep ball at times.
However that being said he is our starting QB and will be for the rest of the season. He has shown a lot of improvement in many areas and if he continues to improve he can lead us to the promise land I am behind him succeeding 100%.
Lastly MR I have told you many times this week to shut up and stay out of here and leave us alone in this time of our loss and grieving. It is the single most classless act I have ever witnessed when you come in here and spew hate to a person very close to our hearts that has just passed away and we are all obviously still grieving.
Seriously the most classless act I have ever witnessed!
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silver & black,
We never agree, and i dont agree with you on Jc.
BUT IM WITH YOU ON THIS MR CRAP!
October 11th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Well said beach. Sunday will be one of the greatest scenes in all of sports in a black sold out stadium! All the true die hards will be there.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:24 am
SnB666, can you tone down the drama just a little? You don’t even know Al Davis.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:24 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Ha ha ha!
Common exchange…
Mistic, tell me one other incident caught on one of those miked up shows where a QB didn’t understand that there’s no such thing as a match up against a cover 2 defense. And if you can find one, tell me if that QB is still in the league.
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SULLY,
the qb saw one thing the coordinator saw something else. It happens every sunday in every game on every level
October 11th, 2011 at 10:29 am
So what are we going to do about our LB situation?
Blackstock and Davis II are the only backups on the roster. They’ve looked good on STs, but I’d like to see another body added.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Wow greg poppa just told the truth on the gannon davis beef!
Davis put gannon on the list because, gannon said “the team cant win until davis dies”.
Gannon called poppa several times to get back in with Davis sinse that time, and wanted to apologize
FUGG YOU GANNON
October 11th, 2011 at 10:30 am
The Colts and Andrew Luck, you say? We’d better hope it’s not the Chiefs and Luck or the Broncs and Luck.
Personally, I hope Seattle or the Vikes get him. Actually, I’d like to see the Vikes with a great QB again.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Mistic,
A 7 year veteran NFL QB can’t recognize cover 2? Thinks there’s a matchup in cover 2? There are pop warner QB’s more advanced, Mistic.
Campbell has till the end of this season. No more games. No more “give him time”. No more “he has potential”. If he doesn’t start looking like a 7 year veteran by the end of this season, Hue’s kicking his ass right out of the locker room. He’s only getting that long out of respect to “Coach Davis”.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Mistic1
“BUT IM WITH YOU ON THIS MR CRAP!”
Seriously the most classless person I have ever witnessed even on the internet.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
With all due respect to Al Davis and his memory, without him around, Campbell no longer has a guaranteed job. Hue Jackson is football coach’s football coach if there ever was one. There are no scholarships on his squad. If Campbell doesn’t establish by the end of this season that he’s everything he was expected to be when signed, he’s out.
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Why didn’t Davis extend Campbell prior to the season and why did he draft a QB? Don’t know that Jason ever had a guaranteed job and/or was on scholarship.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:33 am
What Gannon said was distasteful. Albeit, unfortunately, true.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:33 am
I wish I knew J Hill. Curry is a possibility but we’d have to give up something. This will be a test of the post-Davis era.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Gannon called poppa several times to get back in with Davis sinse that time, and wanted to apologize
FUGG YOU GANNON
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Yeah, fck him for wanting to apologize for saying something stupid. *eyeroll*
October 11th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Sullivan’s got a point here: when do you think the last time Manning/Brees/Rodgers/Brady looked at a defense and didn’t know within a second and a half if it was a zone or man-to-man look? Doesn’t say a lot of good about JC
October 11th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I will be curious to see if there is some sort of power struggle between Amy Trask and Hue Jackson….or even between Trask and Mark Davis. Al mentioned some sort of consideration or power might go to Trask upon his death.
Right now Hue is beating his chest saying he can handle everything and that Al trusted him etc, but he has only been in Oakland a few months, whereas Trask has been here for years and obviously had Al’s trust. I could see a scenario where Amy and Hue are backstabbing each other to Mark Davis trying for a power grab.
Might turn into Al’s final spectacle.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:35 am
A QB that can’t recognize Cover 2, thinks there’s a one on one match up in Cover 2, throws an interception to a near 400 lb. defensive tackle because of this mental lapse, is detrimental to team progress. There’s no way around it. Campbell is not an NFL qb.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Gannon called poppa several times to get back in with Davis sinse that time, and wanted to apologize
FUGG YOU GANNON
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Yeah, fck him for wanting to apologize for saying something stupid. *eyeroll*
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NO DUDE FUGG HIM FOR WHAT HE SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE
October 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m Going to Puke. if atleast 5 Raiders don’t make probowl.
This Ones should be lock.
Mcfadden20, Seymour92, Janikowski,Lechler
consideration
Veldheer,Wiz2,
Special teams Ford and Cartright
October 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Mr. Jason Campbell has definately helped in developing Mr. Heyward-Bey’s career as a WR.
Mr. J. Russell set DHB way back, Mr. Murphy as well, and the entire team.
It kind of makes me wonder which is worse to draft a qb that sets your organization back like a Leaf or Jamarcus or to not draft an Aaron Rogers or Marino.
I think I’ll propose that question to Jerry or steve whoever is handling the chat.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
SNB PA,
It’s not just that Campbell couldn’t recognize the shell before the snap, he thought there was a “match up” in cover 2, which is a true zone defense, nobody covers anyone. I mean, that’s just embarrassing.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:37 am
NO DUDE FUGG HIM FOR WHAT HE SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE
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A stupid, classless, asinine thing to say, no doubt
But he knows he f-d up and wanted to apologize. Maybe I’m soft, but that goes a long way with me
October 11th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Didn’t Gannon say to ‘blow the whole thing up?’ Don’t think he said Al had to be dead for the team to succeed. Unless he meant he wanted to blow Al up?
October 11th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Dakota, how can there be a power struggle between Mark Davis and anyone? He is now managing general partner. He can make anyone in the building disappear before you’re done reading this, including Trask.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:38 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:35 am
A QB that can’t recognize Cover 2, thinks there’s a one on one match up in Cover 2, throws an interception to a near 400 lb. defensive tackle because of this mental lapse, is detrimental to team progress. There’s no way around it. Campbell is not an NFL qb.
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Please, same happened to rivers the week before. qb’s mistake coverages all of the time
October 11th, 2011 at 10:39 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Didn’t Gannon say to ‘blow the whole thing up?’ Don’t think he said Al had to be dead for the team to succeed. Unless he meant he wanted to blow Al up?
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poppa just said it ill take his word
October 11th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Mcfadden I agree with your 4 locks and two honorable mentions, all six have a legitimate opportunity to be an All-Pro for the 2011 season as well.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I think any rationale mind would understand what Gannon meant. He didn’t really wish death on anyone. He just said something about the Raiders that everyone knew. It was distasteful, albeit disturbingly correct. Out of line, yet true. It’s just Gannon’s style. He’s a wet nurse and can overdo it at times. That’s probably why his teammates put a dildo in his locker once.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Mistic,
Rivers was caught on microphone not knowing what a Cover 2 was? Where’s the link?
October 11th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I do not think Mark Davis has the support from the other owners the way Al did.
I’ve posted this a couple of times already;
the other owners are talking to their lawyerrs as we chat.
Al owned less than 50%, even though he had 100% control as well as loyalty from the other owners.
Mark owns less than 50%, he does not have the support and loyalty that Al had.
The other owners will have more say as to what happens from here on out.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:44 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Mistic,
Rivers was caught on microphone not knowing what a Cover 2 was? Where’s the link?
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he missed wilfork droppi9ng into a zone and wilfork picked him off.
are you trying to argue that no qb in the nfl has ever misdiagnosed a defense?
brady manning brees all of them have mis diagnosed a defense and still do it today.
what a joke
October 11th, 2011 at 10:45 am
lol. The other owners supported Al? That’s new.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:46 am
111.luvmarvhub Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:30 am
The Colts and Andrew Luck, you say? We’d better hope it’s not the Chiefs and Luck or the Broncs and Luck.
Personally, I hope Seattle or the Vikes get him. Actually, I’d like to see the Vikes with a great QB again.
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If the Colts have the first pick they will draft Luck. No question about it.
The next question is will the Colts pick up Manning’s remaining contract? If they don’t, they will save a ton of money and Manning can sign elsewhere. Or, if a trade is set up, the Colts could keep Manning’s contract and trade him, which would probably be acceptable to Manning because for his age and with his injury I doubt he would get another contract offer like that from another team at 36 years old (next March).
I doubt the Colts keep him around for 4 years letting Luck rot on the bench, they threw Manning into the fire and it worked out well for them, so they will not be afraid to trade Manning. And I doubt Manning wants to mentor his replacement when he is going for NFL records.
So, the Raiders should trade for Manning. If we have a decent season he may see that we are on the rise and he has never had a running game like he would have in Oakland to open up his passing game. WRs are questionable, but Manning can make WRs look much better than they really are.
We get a QB that will have us in the hunt for a Super Bowl for three years, the Colts get a 1st rounder and a couple of second rounders….win win win.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Mistic, as far as I know, no QB has ever expressed to his coach that he thought there was some kind of one on one matchup against a defense that was clearly cover 2, as Jackson screamed in Campbell’s face after that play…all caught on tape.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Dakota…post #102:
Hey, basically you’re right about Campbell and our situation here in Oakland. However, I don’t think we’ve
seen the “top shelf of the bourbon” in regard to Campbell’s full potential and abilities. I see much more room for growth and passing productivity. Especially with our current core of receivers (who as a combined unit may be the best in the NFL). The season is in the early stages and this is Campbell’s second year within it. Let’s wait and see.
Nothing I can add concerning the past few days that hasn’t been said by many around here. Just, WOW.
We’ll miss you AL….R.I.P.
Raiders 34 – Browns 13
October 11th, 2011 at 10:48 am
If Gannon called SEVERAL times to apologize, I think that should mean something.
I think we’ve all done and said things that we regret.
If the guy is truly sorry, I don’t see the need to hold a grudge.
No one can question Gannon’s desire to see the Raiders win. His comments were probably out of disgust for the Raiders losing.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:49 am
137. Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Mistic, as far as I know, no QB has ever expressed to his coach that he thought there was some kind of one on one matchup against a defense that was clearly cover 2, as Jackson screamed in Campbell’s face after that play…all caught on tape.
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then as suspected you dont know ver much about anything.
Every qb that has ever played in the nfl gets caught mis diagnosing the defense from time to time,
comical
October 11th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Everyone knows how Gannon felt about the Raiders under Al’s management. It’s no secret. And, everyone knows that Gannon didn’t really wish death on anyone. He said some things about Al that were just unacceptable in Al’s small circle.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Mistic,
It’s not that Campbell misdiagnosed the defense (which itself was bad enough, because it was an obvious cover 2), it’s that he actually thought there was a one on one matchup in a cover 2. Embarrassing. He doesn’t even belong in the league.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
127.Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Dakota, how can there be a power struggle between Mark Davis and anyone? He is now managing general partner. He can make anyone in the building disappear before you’re done reading this, including Trask.
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Have you read the will or trust? How else would you know that? There are conflicting reports at this point. I read a report yesterday saying that the team was actually in Carol’s hands, not Marks. And have you read the By-laws of Al Davis Inc., which would address the passing on of stock, and the passing of the power of the Managing General Partner?
I doubt you have those things in your possession MR.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
What off campus situation did Howie get in trouble with during his senior year at Villanova?
October 11th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I’ve posted this a couple of times already;
the other owners are talking to their lawyerrs as we chat.
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1) Any proof of that?
2) Doesn’t matter what the other owners think; the team has passed to Mark Davis who, as far as I’ve been able to find, has the same control his father did. Which is to say, total. It’s his team now as much as it was Al’s.
Why would the other owners care who owns the Raiders anyway?
October 11th, 2011 at 10:53 am
McFadden20…post #122:
Normally, we would be lucky to get two or three into the pro-bowl. There is and always will be a bias against us because of what we represent. We’re the Raiders, the bad boys in black.
However, only this year and only because of Al’s death, we will get more players into the Pro-bowl.
However, we have to make the playoffs, and they (the ones you mentioned…all excellent choices) have to continue to perform.
Nice picks…they’re all playing top notch.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Mistic, S & B – don’t ypu know the rules about feeding trolls? don’t respond or engage the dingleberries and they will eventually fall off.!
October 11th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Dakota, where did you read Carol was in charge? I’ve only read that they both are. Carol’s not exactly young, either. Just how many decisions do you think she’s going to make? If Mark and Carol are now in control, which is what all the reports I’ve read say, then Mark is in charge.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:57 am
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Mistic,
It’s not that Campbell misdiagnosed the defense (which itself was bad enough, because it was an obvious cover 2), it’s that he actually thought there was a one on one matchup in a cover 2. Embarrassing. He doesn’t even belong in the league.
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nice back pedal, stan routt would be proud
mis read on the defense hence he thought he had a favorable match up
news flash there are coaches that get paid to stop the offense and confuse the qb. happens in every game to every qb on every sunday
give it a rest
October 11th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Players seem to think Mark is going to be the owner. MM34: “Now that Mark is going to be the owner, I need to stop calling him Mark. I need to start calling him Mr. Davis”
Tafur said too that Trask told him that Mark Davis has no plans to sell the team
October 11th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Looke to me that they were sucked up on play fakes selling out for the run. The bootleg really hurt but bootlegs to tight ends isnt enough to beat you if thats all you can run, especially if the run game goes nowhere.
Ill take it
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Yeah, but you shouldn’t be sucked up that far inside when you see the back cross your face heading out to the flat…RB’s don’t run those flat routes full speed, especially after a play fake, Quen and Kam had time to get out there if they would have played it right. That play where the fullback dropped the ball in the Flat is a perfect example, you could see Groves on his horse to get out there, but he was 15 yards late on it. That play right there would have cost us the game had they converted, dude would have scored or taken it to the 2…
Just sayin, these guys are too slow to react to the flats. Depending on the coverage the OLB’s have Curl to Flat responsibilities, the need to get there and stop looking in the backfield.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Exactly what I want to hear…but hopefully it is not smoke going you know where!
October 11th, 2011 at 11:02 am
# MikieG Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Looke to me that they were sucked up on play fakes selling out for the run. The bootleg really hurt but bootlegs to tight ends isnt enough to beat you if thats all you can run, especially if the run game goes nowhere.
Ill take it
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Yeah, but you shouldn’t be sucked up that far inside when you see the back cross your face heading out to the flat…RB’s don’t run those flat routes full speed, especially after a play fake, Quen and Kam had time to get out there if they would have played it right. That play where the fullback dropped the ball in the Flat is a perfect example, you could see Groves on his horse to get out there, but he was 15 yards late on it. That play right there would have cost us the game had they converted, dude would have scored or taken it to the 2…
Just sayin, these guys are too slow to react to the flats. Depending on the coverage the OLB’s have Curl to Flat responsibilities, the need to get there and stop looking in the backfield.
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good point speed to the flat has been trouble for our defensive end to line backer converts
October 11th, 2011 at 11:02 am
SilverNBlackPA,
Didn’t Tafur say the Davis Family has no plans to sell the team? That may be Carol, may be Mark, may be both Carol and Mark….none of us or any reporters know for sure at this point. Jeff Burren, Amy Trask, the Davis family….only they know for sure right now.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Detroit Lions are dope.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:04 am
HAHAHAAHa!
Dakota brings logic into the conversation and MR hides. LMFAO!
October 11th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:02 am
good point speed to the flat has been trouble for our defensive end to line backer converts
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Yep, just strange to see from the fastest team in the league to have such a slow second level…
October 11th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I just watched the game over again and most of you reject what I’m about to say BUT that being said here we go.
As far as the deep throws JC made the ONLY ones I have issues with are the ones he threw out of bounds. Other than that if we get full effort from our young WR’s at least two of those deep balls are caught. As far as the first one when Ford WATCHED as the ball was picked Ford is running at maybe 75% speed and gives a very weak effort on the ball. But let’s blame JC for that one for sake of argument. The flea flicker IMO Chaz has lost not one but 2 steps he is struggling to get deep. So let’s blame that on JC as well to stop arguement.
BVut the 2 deep throws I have the most problem with are to our great young stud DMoore. The first was a balloon JC threw up to allow him a chance to make a play. I’m sorry but I’ve seen DMoore make plays like that look easy. The worst was the last deep ball JC threw that Hue yelled at him for. If you really objectively watch that throw it is dead on prefect the problem is our rookie WR isn’t running under the ball he assuming he can’t get to it and it drops right in front of him maybe by 2 yards which is 1 stride if he’s running full speed. This is why I am retiscint to just caste full blame on teh QB like everyone does. Players have to help him complete those plays asking any QB to make stick throws 50 yards downfield is a bit unreasonable.
Because if you watch most plays that far downfield most of the time the WR or rec’r makes great plays on the ball. For instance and this is far fetched but Megatron bails out his QB maybe 70% of the time. Look at the plays Fitzgerald makes they are great plays MOST of the time. Look across the league most plays over 30 yards downfield are great play by the rec’r. JC was not afforded any of that on Sunday.
Just go back and watch the plays Schaub’s rec’s made for him those throws were far from perfect but they made HUGE plays on the ball we got NONE of that from our guys. The vast majority of big plays are a mechanism of the rec’r making a great catch and our guys did not show up this oast Sunday………………period
October 11th, 2011 at 11:07 am
This happens to MR everyday in here numerous times.
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# Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:04 am
HAHAHAAHa!
Dakota brings logic into the conversation and MR hides. LMFAO!
October 11th, 2011 at 11:07 am
We learn many things about the character and “will” to win by the Raiders this past weekend.
We also learned that Hue has some “cojones” when it’s time to put it all out on the line. When he called that
fake punt which Cartwright ran down the field for 40 yards or so…Wow, doesn’t get any better than that. That was the play of the game and the turning point.
Raiders 34 – Browns 10
October 11th, 2011 at 11:09 am
It’s good to see the Oakland Raiders and the Detroit Lions playing well. I always found it disturbing that since the Wall Street heist of the Bush era, that the NFL’s two markets hurt most by the heist were also losing more than the other teams. Thought it painted a bad picture of the NFL. Is the NFL a microcosm for the country? Are Detroit and Oakland fighting back away from the football stadium as well as in it?
October 11th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Repost:
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Dakota, where did you read Carol was in charge? I’ve only read that they both are. Carol’s not exactly young, either. Just how many decisions do you think she’s going to make? If Mark and Carol are now in control, which is what all the reports I’ve read say, then Mark is in charge.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Between the Full House Screaming for AL
and the Players feeling all the love this week..
Raiders 45
Browns 9
October 11th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Like the new management set up in Oakland.
Mark Davis/Hue Jackson.
Raiders 38, Browns 21.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Can you imagine if Tim Tebow were playing like Cam Newton, how ballistic the media would be about it?
October 11th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Defended by the Rally Squirrel
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
And we’re off…
October 11th, 2011 at 11:19 am
dont compare pryor or tebow to newton. those guys arent on the same planet as cam
October 11th, 2011 at 11:20 am
MR have you ever heard of inheritance taxes?
Do you think it would be more cost effective to will a large sum of money to your spouse or to your children?
Think about it?
October 11th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Wow. As stupid as I am, somehow I always seem to be on that leader board with the predictions. lmao.
Raiders 38, Brownies 21. Mark it, Qodrn.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Priest. .. it was a very strange game to say the least… I don’t know how we beat the Texans. .. I her the Texans are thinking the same thing.. Dhb was the only receiver who brought it!! Dhb played like cliff branch…he played with poise. .attitude..determination and more importantly. ..emotion/ heart!! It was a thing of beauty… its what I was waiting for since he got drafted!! Now I know he has it!! He Just needs to let that out every Sunday from here on out!! I loved it!! I never thought I would ever say this….. Dhb. Was by far our best wide receiver against Houston. … wow!! Awesome! !
October 11th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Raiders 35 Browns 13
October 11th, 2011 at 11:21 am
As a surviving spouse, Carole is in charge legally in order to escape the grubby little hands of the “Progressives” who wish to take about half (sometimes more) of what a wealthy person has accumulated over a lifetime and redistribute it to the government, which then gets to decide how it redistributes it (actually, how it wastes it, for the most part.)
Like all people, Davis did careful estate planning so that when Carole passes, Mark can retain as much control as is legally possible.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:21 am
dont compare pryor or tebow to newton. those guys arent on the same planet as cam
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I hope you’re wrong.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:22 am
@VittorioTafurVittorio Tafur
Trask told me Saturday night he’s keeping it “@TheNaviBajwa: so is Mark Davis keeping the team or selling in the future?”
October 11th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Mistic, of course Tebow’s not on the same page as Cam. I just think the media’s kind of quiet about Cam. I’m watching his highlights from Sunday right now, and I’m just in awe. These highlights follow a story about Tebow starting when Denver plays again. Now I’m just imagining how ballistic and insane the sports media would be if Tebow were playing this good. Think Cam deserves a little more recognition.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:22 am
federal estate tax
2010=0%
2011=35% over the first $5 million
Forbes valued the Raiders at $797 million in 2009.
Al owned about 47% of the Raiders = $347,590,000.00 value.
Subtract out the $5 million dollar exemption = about $369 million taxed at 35% = $129 million in Federal Estate Taxes due just on his share of the team (not including the rest of Al’s estate).
I don’t think Cali has estate taxes anymore do they?
October 11th, 2011 at 11:22 am
DHb has been the best wr on our team 3 of the four games he has played in
October 11th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Like the new management set up in Oakland.
Mark Davis/Hue Jackson.
Raiders 38, Browns 21.
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Wow.
So who is the new management and what is the difference? Do you suspect the Raiders will install a West Coast offense and cover 2 defense in 4 days?
October 11th, 2011 at 11:23 am
38-17 Raiders
October 11th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Sullivan44… Lmao!! Your a piece of work.. you know that!! Damn!, Raiders 31. Cleveland 13..
October 11th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Yeah, that government might take Mark and Carol’s money and build them a new stadium with it.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:27 am
See what just happened?
I just gave props to the Raiders. Said I like the new management. That angered someone. You tell me what that person was really all about.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Did Al own it, or the Davis family?
Al Davis Inc plays into that some kinda way, I’m sure. Al Davis Inc still lives on, if you will.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Why can’t LA just embrace their own culture and bring the Rams back? Stop biting on Oakland! Whether it’s the Raiders, jacking hyphy and calling it “jerkin’”. lmfao.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
“$129 million in Federal Estate Taxes due”
How you get around that is life insurance. I would bet that Mr Davis had somewhere between 50 and 80 million in life insurance if not more.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Luvmar…. you hit the nail on the head… as long as Carol Davis is with us….. the Davis family does not have to fork it over to Jerry brown…. and to the state… like if that money wasn’t going to go down a black hole… no pun intended!! I’m sure the state of California is hoping that Mrs Davis would kick the bucket as well…fk this Communist state!!, that’s the reason business/ people are leaving California! !
October 11th, 2011 at 11:31 am
I think DHB has shown in more than just one game that he belongs where he is. I don’t hear or red anymore protest otherwise. Just a week ago you couldn’t get away from them.
DHB is slowly shutting the haters up…..crickets??
Now he just needs to understand that is who he is, if he plays to his ability there aren’t many corners who will want to tangle with his size and speed. Keep getting better DHB until your career is over then they will have to respect you.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Wow, Alex Smith ranked 3rd in QB rating. Harbaugh may earn coach of the year for that one.
Just goes to show what good coaching can do for a QB.
Soup on his own = meh
Soup + HuJak = not shabby
Soup + HuJak + DMAC = pretty good
October 11th, 2011 at 11:32 am
On Wednesday, Rick Maese of the Washington Post dug up a 13-year-old NY Times article that reminds us Davis had as many friends as he did enemies when he was alive. One of those enemies was Mike Shanahan, who was the head coach of the Raiders for just over a season in 1988 and 1989 before a feud about money became too much for both men to handle.
In 1994, Shanahan was the offensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers. Prior to a game with the Raiders, he was working with quarterback Elvis Grbac, who says Shanahan ordered him to throw a ball at Davis’ head from about 30 feet away.
“I can’t do that,” Grbac said he replied. “If I hit him, do you know what he could do to me?”
Being the control freak that he is, Shanahan simply glared at Grbac and said, “Throw the ball.” The quarterback obliged but Davis was able to get out of the way just in time, leaving the pigskin sailing just a few inches from his head. Unsurprisingly, Davis stared in the direction of Shanahan and made an obscene gesture. A former Raiders coach who witnessed the exchange confirmed it at the time the article was written
F- Shanarat
October 11th, 2011 at 11:33 am
These young rec’s are good but they still have a long way to go and it showed Sunday. Maybe it was the enormity of the event I’m not sure but I was very disappointed a couple of times.
Adios guys!
October 11th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Sullivan44.. you stupid fool.. that was hilarious!! The state will take the raiders No eyes and build a new stadium… what a Jack ass you are man!! Lmfao!! …. That money would go to feed the everybody else except the raiders.. you ignorant bastard!! Man you are stupid!”
October 11th, 2011 at 11:34 am
There was a big debate on McCoy vs Suh coming into the draft. I saw them both played the same opponent Texas and Suh dominated. I knew Suh would be a better player and couldnt believe the hype on McCoy.
The same logic can be applied to Pryor here. Pryor and Cam both played vs Arkansas in 2010.
Newton 140 yds passing with 1 TD. 188 yds rushing.
Pryor 221 yds passing 2 TD, 115 yds rushing.
Arkansas is one of the better teams in the SEC and can be used as a good measurement. Both had good performances. I think Pryor will be fine as our QB of the future.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Why can’t LA just embrace their own culture and bring the Rams back?
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Hey A$$clown…
The Rams came from Cleveland
October 11th, 2011 at 11:36 am
183.J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Did Al own it, or the Davis family?
Al Davis Inc plays into that some kinda way, I’m sure. Al Davis Inc still lives on, if you will.
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Al and Carol married in 1954, well before Al became an owner of the Raiders….meaning the stock in Al Davis Inc. might be considered community property. But they may have, through transmutation, changed the ownership to seperate property by agreement so that Al was the owner and had the power during his life.
Either way, his stock will be passed on like any other asset.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Well, since everyone else is making their predictions:
Raiders 33 – Browns 16
October 11th, 2011 at 11:37 am
PRYOR must solve his throwing motion and accuract issues. most importantly he needs to make better decisions on and off the field, especially on the field.
pryor is a turnover waiting to happen in the nfl
October 11th, 2011 at 11:37 am
185.Silverandblack666 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:30 am
“$129 million in Federal Estate Taxes due”
How you get around that is life insurance. I would bet that Mr Davis had somewhere between 50 and 80 million in life insurance if not more.
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Life insurace would cover it, but are there companies that would insure an 82 year old man for that amount of life insurance? I can’t imagine it.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:38 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:34 am
There was a big debate on McCoy vs Suh coming into the draft. I saw them both played the same opponent Texas and Suh dominated. I knew Suh would be a better player and couldnt believe the hype on McCoy.
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You and me both. Thought/still think McCoy would be a very good 3-technique, but the whole thing that it was a difficult choice between the two was insanity. McCoy was very very good; Suh was a monster.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Pryor’s #1 problem is his happy feet in the pocket. That can come with coaching.
Watching his highlights, I know why Al drafted him: 1) athleticism 2) the kid throws a bee-yoo-tee-ful deep ball.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:43 am
“Two people have been charged in a plot by elements in Iran’s government to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the U.S., on American soil, Attorney General Eric Holder says”
Wow.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:43 am
“Like all people, Davis did careful estate planning so that when Carole passes, Mark can retain as much control as is legally possible.”
For clarification–By “control,” I simply meant that Al, like the typical parent, would have done careful planning so that when his surviving spouse passed, their surviving offspring would retain as much of their estate as possible.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:44 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Pryor’s #1 problem is his happy feet in the pocket. That can come with coaching.
Watching his highlights, I know why Al drafted him: 1) athleticism 2) the kid throws a bee-yoo-tee-ful deep ball.
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he came to college with a ton of hype so i watched a lot just to see what kind of player he is.
accuracy and decision making was beyond questionable. He got away with lots of poor decisions in college that wont fly in the nfl.
pryor a quality starter i just dont see it
October 11th, 2011 at 11:45 am
“Life insurace would cover it, but are there companies that would insure an 82 year old man for that amount of life insurance? I can’t imagine it.”
Something he would have done many years ago with regards to estate planning and his living trust.
Could be that Mark is the executor of Al Davis Inc living trust. This would make sense as far as escaping the tax ramifications of a large estate like that.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:45 am
raiders 23 browns 13
October 11th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Seems many of you think this week’s game will be a blowout. I hope you’re right. While the Raiders seem capable of playing with anyone, they don’t seem tone able to put anyone away.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:45 am
pryor a quality starter i just dont see it
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You’ll be in here someday admitting to me you were as wrong about Pryor as I was about Newton! BOOK IT
October 11th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Silver PA,
Suh was the ONLY reason Nebraska had a chance against Texas that nite. Two guys play against the same opponent. One guy dominated and yet people were saying McCoy was a better prospect. SMH.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:47 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Silver PA,
Suh was the ONLY reason Nebraska had a chance against Texas that nite. Two guys play against the same opponent. One guy dominated and yet people were saying McCoy was a better prospect. SMH.
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Exactly! Suh nearly won the damn game by himself; I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that kind of a performance from a defensive tackle.
Suh has always been something special.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:48 am
It’s amazing just how much some of you engage trolls. Almost as if you enjoy it.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Cam Newton did a jump pass this weekend for a bomb to Steve Smith. Jay Cutler threw a perfect pass off his backfoot to Devin Hester yesterday. I can careless about happy feet. Can you get the ball where it’s supposed to go and can you break down the opponent when the drawn up play isnt there.
Moreover, the first attribute of a QB should be does he have the swagger to lead his team? Cam and Pryor both carried their teams in college. One guy is faster and the other guy is stronger. But we’re not talking about a little guy that is faster. We’re talking 6-5 233lbs here. Pryor will be a fine QB for the Raiders. Can’t wait.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Aig,
I think you and I are the only guys here who believe in Pryor.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Mark Davis is a classically handsome man I bet he has a ton of lady friends!
October 11th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Exactly! Suh nearly won the damn game by himself;
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Saw the same and thought the same darn thing too myself. That’s why I always compare players based on the same upper echelon opponents they went against and not combine numbers.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Wait…what the heck happened to my post???
October 11th, 2011 at 11:54 am
PA,
Count priest in that group. He was praising him before we drafted him. I’m actually shocked Mistic is not on Pryor’s bandwagon. I’m thinking because Pryor is on the same team with his beloved JC.
October 11th, 2011 at 11:54 am
211.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Aig,
I think you and I are the only guys here who believe in Pryor.
Anyways, I said that I haven’t seen too much of him to really mae a judgement, but will stand by him if his number is called upon!
October 11th, 2011 at 11:57 am
so who won the score prediction last week?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
What was the MUP scores for last week?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Aig. …. both Pryor and jc are al Davis decisions. .. I’m a firm believer that al thought about grooming Pryor to eventually be the starting qb of the Raiders. Obviously. … now. … the question that loomed was to either resign jc or let him go after this season…. if he can continue winning and gets us to the playoffs. …there is no question… jc needs to be resigned and lead us!!” ..
October 11th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
heard that fat turd sapp on the radio yesterday trying to sound as if he is a real raider. no that al is gone and the raiders are playing well and matter this fat pig is full of compliments about davis and the raider way
what a joke
October 11th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
first question in the live chat:
Nick Miller managed 3 receptions and 2 fumbles in 2.33 seasons with the Raiders
do you think he’ll surpass that in St Louis ???
October 11th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Hwndr. .. count me in as a Pryor fan… I’ve been saying it for a ling time… I thought he was going to play some this season… certain situations. .. atleast until al passed!! Now I don’t think that will come to fruition!! But I definitely think Pryor will be a good qb!,! Put me your camp!!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I think you and I are the only guys here who believe in Pryor
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PA & AIG,
excuse me!
who wanted Pryor in the 3rd of the Supp draft before it was even announced that we’d have a draft or if Pryor was eligible ???
me, suckas. add RRS to that list
October 11th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Hwndr,
We have the number 1 back in the league. We have the #1 rushing team in the league. Any QB playing for us should be having a career year. Pryor will be just fine. As a matter of fact, teams will not be able to just focus on dMAC knowing Pryor is back there and can take off on his own as well. We will play ball controll and pound the crap out of the opponent while limiting Rivers from getting on the field and exploiting our db’s. I can see a situation similar to CJ2K and VY in Tenn a few yrs back.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Wassup peoples!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I think you and I are the only guys here who believe in Pryor
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PA & AIG,
excuse me!
who wanted Pryor in the 3rd of the Supp draft before it was even announced that we’d have a draft or if Pryor was eligible ???
me, suckas. add RRS to that list
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Please also include LA to TheBay, as LA to TheBay always liked Pryor.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I agree Ghost…they have to draw up some plays just to get him in! Would be good for him!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Mike Shanahan once ordered Elvis Grbac to throw at Al Davis’ head…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Mike-Shanahan-once-ordered-Elvis-Grbac-to-throw-?urn=nfl-wp9245
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Never knew rat face tried that one.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Mistic… That sappopotamus…ahole saw the Raiders as an ATM machine. .that’s all!! That Guy is no raider. . Fk sapp!! I can’t stand that big tub of sh! T!!… i see his disengenuous smile on NFL network and have no choice but to change the channel! !
October 11th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Hwndr. .. I always said.. Pryor is going to surprise a lot of people. .. now that al passed it might take until next season to see him!! But I really see him turning into the Randall Cunningham of today!!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
live in NYC and have bben a raider since biletnikoff won the MVP against Minnesota
how do i get games on the internet
October 11th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
ambase9 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
live in NYC and have bben a raider since biletnikoff won the MVP against Minnesota
how do i get games on the internet
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p2p4u.net
works for me
October 11th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
thanks my man
D’MAC ATTACK for MVP
October 11th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Incredible. . Ed roski. .. city of industry still wants to build a football stadium!! And they want the Raiders!! City of industry about 45min east of Los Angeles. .. I live in Pomona. . About 8 min away from site…… I still prefer raiders in Oakland. ..they belong in Oakland. … but if they are moving. … that would be my second choice.LOL.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Its all good Ambase9
October 11th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
DMAC we are looking at 6-2 by the break
NNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEE
October 11th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Danario Alexander
Dominique Curry
Brandon Gibson
Austin Pettis
Greg Salas
Mike Sims-Walker
even with Danny Amendola on Injured Reserve & Mark Clayton on the PUP list, I still don’t see White Webster getting any* in St Louis
* = playing time
October 11th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
jerrymac: You bring in a GM the coach is on board with. Which is exactly what I expect will happen at some point.
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this is exactly why Jerry Mac got demoted from blog pimp!
does the Head Coach pick out the GM (his boss)?
does the tail wag the dog?
boneheaded way to start a chat imo
October 11th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
ambase9 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
DMAC we are looking at 6-2 by the break
NNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEE
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Yeah, as long as we keep our foot on the gas pedal and not overlook any of those teams.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Yeah, Jerry Brown and big government are such an enemy to the Raiders they’d build them a stadium and pretty much cover the operating costs of the franchise if they could just weasel Oakland’s citizens into voting for it. Don’t blame Oaklanders for being too smart to fall for the oakie doke. That’s Oakland.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
in years past they would’ve lost the game on Sunday on the last play. Although the D’ is very nerve racking, because they are 3-2 i feel it. Its all the cards add in Big Al passing on, you cannot write a better script.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Ambase9
firstrowsports.eu
October 11th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Yean, Ghost. The best thing for the Raiders is obviously for them to move 10 minutes away from your house. The San Gabriel Valley and Inland Empire are as much victim to the Bush heist as any regions. Oh, and of course, the Raiders would definitely escape the wrath of Jerry Browns’ Sacramento commie blocc because of course Industry isn’t in California….duh!!!!!!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
there are some more our fellow posters post on here before the game but that one works for me
October 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I don’t know why some, waste their time asking questions to Jerry?
Still a head scratcher.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Al Davis no doubt left specific instructions on what he wanted done and who to pick for specific positions, including a new Football operations GM. He had finally found the HC he was looking for and he bolstered the Asst. Coach ranks with Wiznewski, Biekert & Woodson. Bresnahan was a default pick. Al wanted somebody else for DC but that apparently fell through. Bresnahan got the job by default. Whether he stays there or not will be based on how the D performs this year. He very well could be a one year temporary employee.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
thanks mcfadden-its going to be sweet when you win the MVP
just promise me you will stay healthy
October 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Rockstar, head coaches pick out GMs all the time. Hue’s in a unique position. It’s not his fault Al died. It’s not his fault his team’s playing well. It’s not his fault Mark and Carol seem to like him, and seem to think his brain is best when it comes running day to day football operations.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
head coaches pick out GMs all the time
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S44,
give me 3 examples in the last 5 years
October 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Hue Jackson has known Al Davis for less than 2 years and won a whopping 2 games as Head Coach before Al passed … if everything Jerry Mac is saying in the live chat is true, this organization is seriously fudged up
October 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Later peoples!
gotta run
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Parcells has picked out his GM almost everywhere he went, except for Dallas. And that’s why it didn’t work out with him there. He refused to work under Jerry as his GM. Gruden brought Bruce Allen into Tampa. There. That’s two. YOU’RE OWNED! YOU’RE SO F’N OWNED!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Rockstar,
Who should be our GM?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Rue the Day They Talked Sh;t About Hue Jack City® List:
-RaiderRockstar
October 11th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
RR,
Don’t believe the hype.
Jerry probably knows as much as we all do on this blog.
Just saying bruh.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
give me 3 examples in the last 5 years
I’ll wait!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Brown just signed into law the Dream Act so the illegals that Brown made feel so welcome here in California can help build the stadium on the cheap right?
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Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Yeah, Jerry Brown and big government are such an enemy to the Raiders
October 11th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Rue the Day They Talked Sh;t About Hue Jack City® List:
-RaiderRockstar
-RR
-RR
-RR
-RR….
October 11th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Who should be our GM?
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somebody qualified!
print that
October 11th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Rue the Day They Talked Sh;t About Hue Jack City® List:
-RaiderRockstar
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LA,
if you want to crown him, CROWN HIM!
LOL. He is who I think he is …
October 11th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Hue Jackson should not be running this franchise. Hue Jackson should be coaching. He is doing a decent job coaching thus far, but to throw on top of that the day to day responsibilities of GM would be too much. Coaches trying to play GM almost always fail. Historical fact.
Hire a GM. Doesn’t have to happen overnight, but it needs to happen eventually. Can’t go into the offseason with no GM.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
California is upside down and smothered in debt and our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
Dems are disgraceful little piggies!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Yes i will stay healthy ,i will run over 2000 yards and over 600 yards receiving i will be run away with MVP and will be the probowl MVP.
PRINT IT
October 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Greg PAPA is on 97.5 talking about the Raiders and football. So far, they want to trade Louis Murphy to the 49ers for a safety.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
I will be on Cover of Madden 13 next year.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
from live chat …
Al Saunders as GM?
I hadn’t heard that rumor. interesting
I know he’s been a “consultant” before, but nothing else outside of football coach
October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Good afternoon Raider fans and others!
Qodrn my lovely girl:
Raiders 35 Bums 9
Yes a blow-out
CODE BLACK remains in effect.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Sullivan44….. don’t be a moron!!! Everybody knows that CA is only a shell of what it used to be 13% unemployment. …..owning 33% of the countries welfare cases when we only have the 12% of the countries population. …. giving money away to people here illegally.. stepping on the throat of businesses that want to hire but can’t because of state government regulations. … oh no.. who wouldn’t want to live in this business climate!,! You should STFU!! Until you know what your talking about!! You Moron!,!! …. the only reason why Los Angeles is even allowing these stadiums to be built is because of the money and jobs the stadiums would bring!! You ignorant Jack ass!!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Yep, California is so horrible, that’s whey developers continue to build middle to upper class homes, and out of state people continue to flood in and buy them. If Cali’s so bad, get off our nutz!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
262.MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
California is upside down and smothered in debt and our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
Dems are disgraceful little piggies!
WTF? Time to go to the PI…
264.qodrn Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Greg PAPA is on 97.5 talking about the Raiders and football. So far, they want to trade Louis Murphy to the 49ers for a safety.
A bigger WTF?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Hue Jackson should not be running this franchise. Hue Jackson should be coaching. He is doing a decent job coaching thus far, but to throw on top of that the day to day responsibilities of GM would be too much. Coaches trying to play GM almost always fail. Historical fact.
Hire a GM. Doesn’t have to happen overnight, but it needs to happen eventually. Can’t go into the offseason with no GM.
California is upside down and smothered in debt and our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
Dems are disgraceful little piggies!
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post(s) of the day
October 11th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The whole country’s a shell of its old self, Ghost. Where have you been?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Yeah, Republicans aren’t responsible at all for this country’s problems. How much money was spent looking for those WMDs?
MB, Ghost, I’ll await your guys’ answer.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
CODE BLACK FOR SURE TO MY MVP IN REGULAR SEASON, Unfortunately i won’t be winning PRO BOWL MVP because i would be Preparing for winning MVP in SUPERBOWL…
CODE BLACK>>> BROWNIES
October 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Rockstar,
Who should be GM?
Waiting on your answer.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Some have said Al Saunders was an excellent choice for Raider’s GM. He goes back with Al Davis to Don “Air” Coryell days. There’s also a USSC connection with AD. AD just happen to bring him in to the Raiders this year. Coincidence, I think NOT. Al Saunders is a well experienced and respected Offensive based Coach. He’s got 30 years of football experience and knows personnel well. He has had vast experience in the AFC-West – an important consideration going forward. He’s also a close friend of Al Davis. We also know he now has a familiarity with the 2011 Raider team & he gets along well with Hue Jackson.
My vote says Al Saunders will be our next GM.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Lord this is tedious.. Limbaugh and Maddow wannabes: swing your purse elsewhere PLEASE
October 11th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
California is upside down and smothered in debt and our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
Dems are disgraceful little piggies!
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Giving people opportunity??
Shame on those progressive, thoughtful people!
To show ‘em we mean business, let’s lay off a bunch of teachers, cops, and firemen, because, you know, they’re our heroes! Wait…
October 11th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson Bo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Who is the most tenured member of the scouting staff…it seems likely that this group was closest to Al as he made player persnonel decisions. A GM candidate there?
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Look at BSJ digging for a juicy little Southwick tip
D-Smooth from intern to GM has merit though imo
October 11th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Rush Limbaugh is a fat closet case.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
JB #276.. I was thinking along the same lines.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Since 500 mil to Solyndra was a “drop in the bucket” prob just enough was spent looking for WMD’s and bring that POS to justice.
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# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Yeah, Republicans aren’t responsible at all for this country’s problems. How much money was spent looking for those WMDs?
MB, Ghost, I’ll await your guys’ answer.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
While Al Davis may have appointed a GM to take his place, there is no way Al Davis can make the future decisions of this franchise. And what happens when that GM loses? Somebody has to fire him. That will be Mark Davis. Meet the new boss. So far, as far as I can see? NOT the same as the old boss. Some things are going to change. And, from what I can see, it looks like it’s mostly bad things that will be disappearing.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Sullivan44 is a fat closet case.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
MB, still waiting on your answer. How much did Bush spend trying to find those WMDs, that Jesus told him were there?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I’ll come back later when this returns to being a Raiders blog
October 11th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Some things are going to change. And, from what I can see, it looks like it’s mostly bad things that will be disappearing
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MR = sad lonely man
October 11th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Your dad’s a fat closet case, Rockstar.
And you know you want Trask or someone like that as GM, because you want the team to be run just like how Al ran it. That’s why you won’t name anyone. You know you’ll get laughed out of the room if you name Trask, who’s your real choice.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
See post #282 your answer is there numnuts.
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# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
MB, still waiting on your answer. How much did Bush spend trying to find those WMDs, that Jesus told him were there?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
MR ALEX SULLIVAN
October 11th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MB, George W. Bush is a war criminal.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Looks like Jerry throughout the chat has confirmed what me and a few others were saying in here yesterday. Hue is going to have a HUMONGOUS role in whoever they bring in for GM. I’m sure Hue knows a lot of great football minds, and will be looking to give someone who hasn’t had a chance an opportunity just like Al would’ve done. Al was all about living out MLK’s dream and judging a man by his character. I’m actually excited for whoever it is that Hue helps bring in ’cause I know deep down (and you all do too) that Hue is the perfect fit for us.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
MB, do you remember all of the military people who pleaded with Bush to give the inspectors more time, because they could not find any shred of a WMD there? Bush defied their intel, and spent how much money again trying to find those WMDs that he knew weren’t there? Come on, give us the price tag, MB. It’s a big one.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Hue and our next GM will make this a very exciting decade for the Nation. We should all be proud and anticipating some of our best years ever. One Nation!
October 11th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Pres purp lips didn’t get congress approval for Libya so what does that make him, besides incompetent?
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# LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MB, George W. Bush is a war criminal.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
And Rockstar won’t name a GM because he knows he wants Trask. He’d rather lose Davis’s way than win anyone else’s way.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
No, I remember Dems standing beofor congress in full agreement and signing off on the war and then in Dem fashion they made a 180 degree flip flop after the war begun.
Dems are disgraceful kunts…
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Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
MB, do you remember all of the military people who pleaded with Bush to give the inspectors more time,
October 11th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
MB, it’ll take a generation to clean up Bush’s mess. That’s why no Republican will see the white house again until at least 2020. That’s why all of the republican superstars are chickening out. They know they can’t win.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
MB, remember when Bush said Jesus talked to him, told him there were WMDs there? What is Jesus, stupid?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I wonder if the Raiders will try to contact Eric DeCosta, Joe Hortiz or Chad Alexander from Baltimore (ties to Hue) ???
Looking at this:
http://www.raiders.com/team/administration.html
I don’t see any internal candidates
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
No way Amy Trask is named GM. For the following reasons:
• Going from CEO to GM is a backwards move – a demotion.
• She doesn’t have the football operations nor football personnel knowledge necessary for that position.
• She have to fire herself & that’s tough to do.
Al Saunders will be the next Oakland Raider GM.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Sullivan44… listen to Greg papa… you Jack ass!! He Just said the state of California is extorting money from a business that already paid its dues!! ….. but You probably wont understand that because it makes to much sense!! You ignorant fool….
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
The question shouldn’t be who will be the GM,but what type of role will the GM have.Will it be someone like Smith in SD who picks the players and runs things or will it be someone like Bruce Allen who primarily is a cap guy and does contracts?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Rockstar,
You never named that GM you had in mind. Are you afraid we’ll laugh at you if you say Trask? lol.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
LA are you following the Fast & Furious fiasco?
You know, where 0bahma & Holder (2 derelicts) sold weapons to Mex drug lords and then our guys got shot with those weapons.
Fascinating libtard foreign policy incompetence that warrants fed charges and impeachments.
Following that story, MR or LA ?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Post a link or youtube video of Bush saying that.
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# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
MB, remember when Bush said Jesus talked to him, told him there were WMDs there? What is Jesus, stupid?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Pres purp lips didn’t get congress approval for Libya so what does that make him, besides incompetent?
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# LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MB, George W. Bush is a war criminal.
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In a post that includes your very racist description of Barry O. as “prez purple lips” and George W. Bush, you associate Barry O. as incompetent?
You are delusional.
Scary delusional.
And, as I’ve told you before, I don’t buy everything democrats sell either. Our two party system is pretty laughable when compared to other modern, western democracies.
I don’t approve of Lybia.
But it’s apples and oranges. How many young middle and lower middle class men and women (most of which parents probably very stupidly voted for GWB and other republicans – completely against their own self-interst because they’re easily duped like you) died as a result of Bush’s failed, pointless wars vs. Lybia?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Greg Papa’s one of the best play by play announcers in football. But a political scientist he’s not. Oh, what state does Papa live in? And where in that state does he live? He could live in some place in the central valley, away from the state’s liberal mecca. But no. He’s on Cali’s nuts, just like the rest of these people who say the state us upside down…as they frolic and thrive in it.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
MB, nobody cares about Fast and Furious. How long now had Drudge been trying to turn that into the new Lewinskygate? lol. Find a new cause.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
MB, remember when Bush said Jesus talked to him, told him there were WMDs there? What is Jesus, stupid?
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You sayin’ Jesus Chr;st can’t hit a curve ball?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Fast and Furious…the little engine that could. lol. Come on, put it on the top of your web page again, Drudge. Today’s the day. It’s going to stick and go big this time! Nope. Michael Jackson’s doctor is a bigger story. Give up.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
MB, Al Davis was a bigger story than Fast and Furious. lmfao.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
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The whole process of illegals being able to get “benefits” is puzzling to me.
How are these illegals getting Drivers Licenses and SSN#s?
How are they enrolling in college to get financial aid in the first place?
How do they get the documents?
Can’t be fake stuff or they wouldn’t be classified as illegals.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Especially not the families of the dead border patrol, right? You are a despicable disgraceful POS.
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# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
MB, nobody cares about Fast and Furious
October 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
S44,
your other character “Dvrick” was more interesting
October 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Nobody cares there were no WMD’s.
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# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
MB, nobody cares about Fast and Furious
October 11th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Ask any elected Democrat.
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# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
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The whole process of illegals being able to get “benefits” is puzzling to me.
How are these illegals getting Drivers Licenses and SSN#s?
How are they enrolling in college to get financial aid in the first place?
How do they get the documents?
Can’t be fake stuff or they wouldn’t be classified as illegals.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
MB, a story of a dead border patrol agent is not going to sink a president. Look at all of the soldiers that Bush got killed trying to find WMDs that he knew weren’t there. Fast and Furious is a dead story, and has been for sometime. Only circulates amongst the right wing website, radio stations, etc. No mainstream buzz. Michael Jackson’s doctor is a bigger story. Justin Bieber is a bigger story.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Impeach the turd!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
The question shouldn’t be who will be the GM,but what type of role will the GM have.Will it be someone like Smith in SD who picks the players and runs things or will it be someone like Bruce Allen who primarily is a cap guy and does contracts?
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Good question. Because Hue Jackson is an excellent personnel guy, it could go either way. I believe Hue is going to be HC for quite a long time. On the other side of the coin, just because Hue is good at personnel, it doesn’t mean that the new GM won’t be the personnel guy. Maybe the best of both worlds is for both the GM & Hue be the personnel guys with the GM also being responsible for the CAP & contracts while Hue handles the day to day operations. That would mean they’d both have to be able to get along well together. Doesn’t that sound a lot like Jackson & Saunders? Al brought Saunders in for a reason and it wasn’t because Jackson couldn’t handle the offense. It was a chance for Saunders to become intimately familiar with the 2011 Raiders and with Hue Jackson. Those two guys seem to work well together. Saunders was a trusted Davis friend. I think Davis was just preparing Saunders for the GM position.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
live chat is boring and Sullivan44 has chased away most of the decent semi-pro bloggers
later gents!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
MB,
Fast and Furious is over. Another Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers think. Going nowhere. Republicans really only have one game plan, and that’s to not even run for president until at least 2020. Christie, Rubio, and Pallin seem to get it. They’re hiding under their desks. Well, Pallin’s doing something else under the decks, too. And Lamar Odom’s sitting in her chair.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Dead story:
LOL
EXCLUSIVE: Congressional investigators probing the failed anti-gunrunning operation Fast and Furious are sending a new subpoena to Attorney General Eric Holder — seeking communications from about a dozen top Justice Department officials, including Holder; his chief of staff, Gary Grindler; and the head of the department’s criminal division, Lanny Breuer, Fox News has learned.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I can see that this blog has degraded to everything but Raider football. I’m outta here for now. Maybe later this evening.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
MB, what did you think of Sarah and Glen Rice?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Its over thats why subpoenas are coming down the road you fk’n imbecile.
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Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
MB,
Fast and Furious is over
October 11th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
MB, it’s only circulating amongst right wing news sources. Nothing on CNN. Nothing on ABC, NBC, CBS…maybe buried at the bottom of their web pages. Nothing big. And, everyone knows about it. They just don’t care. Not enough to put a Republican back into the white house. I’m sorry if a border patrol agents life isn’t worth allowing a Republican back into the white house to most American voters, but it’s just not. Deal with it.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Oooh, the subpoena angle…again. I remember Drudge tried that months back. Good idea to try it again. The word “subpoenas” always gets a glance. But not enough to get people to care about this.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Federal subpoenas are nothing close to right wing anything you idiot.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
MB, Ob@ma’s going to be president until another Democrat takes office in January of 2017. You know that. So just find a new cause.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Now I would love Bruce Allen to come back here because he knows the organization and the way Mr Davis. Now Bruce is not the best talent evaluator but he KNOWS the league which is more important in some ways because he knows how to negotiate with other GM’s you can have someone else evaluate talent. The same way we had it when Big Al was here, let Bruce handle negotiations and the cap and get a football to handle the talent evals.
But Bruce is one of the sharpest execs in the business just keep him away fom the film room.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Only low level people are going to get subpoenaed, if anyone. Holder won’t get one. This isn’t the big one, MB. Get used to that. How long now has the right been trying to stir this up? These types of things never work.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Fast and Furious….won’t touch the prez, but Eric Holder is done.
Probably a CIA plot to get rid of Holder for re-opening those bogus abuse cases, lol.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Holder’s not done. He won’t get subpoenaed either. The right is just trying to turn this into a big Ob@ma scandal, and they won’t let it go. Even though Americans have made it clear, they don’t care.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
JB I don’t disagree with the Al Saunders as a talent evaluator at all I think taht would work well. But get Bruce in here for contracts and negotiating trades and and the cap.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Does Bruce have a contract with Washington? Is he there? I don’t remember…
October 11th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
tj, have you been sitting in a tree today watching athletes practice ? Bump your head ?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Al Saunders the long-time Chief running the Raiders! Al won’t have it and neither will I!!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Teebow is offical starter this Sunday. We still greive.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Priest,Bruce won’t be back.He has burned too many bridges.!st following Chuckie,Then going over to the rat.I could see Lombardi over him.BTW,did you see that 1st TD pass Stafford dropped into Johnson’s lap-hit him perfectly in stride..If JC could do that our offense would be unstoppable the way our WRs get behind the DBs like they do.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
MUPdates: Week 5 (Unofficial)
D.WOW = 35pts!
W02: 19pts (4 first downs, 4 for plays over 20y, 6 for plays over 40y, 5 for TD)
W03: 10pts (3 first downs, 2 plays over 20y, 5 for TD)
W04: 6pts (1 first downs, 5 for TD)
Wiz 2.0 “The Legacy” = 23pts
W01: 1pts (4 no sacks/pressure allowed, -3 for false start)
W02: 6pts (4 no S/P, 2 for Key Blocks)
W03: 8pts (4 no S/P, 4 Key Blocks)
W04: 8pts (4 no S/P, 4 Key Blocks)
DHB = 17pts
W01: 2pts (2 for first-downs)
W04: 8pts (4 for plays over 50y, 2 for plays over 20y, 4 for first downs, -2 for drops)
W05: 7pts (5 for TD, 2 for >20y, 1 first downs, -1 for drops)
Moss = 15pts
W03: 10pts (8 for sacks, 1 for pass broken up, 1 for QB pressure)
W04: 4pts (2 for TFL, 2 for QB pressure)
W05: 1pts (1 for QB pressure)
Hagan = 10pts
W02: 6pts (4 first downs, 2 for plays over 20y)
W03: 1pts (1 first downs)
W04: 2pts (2 for first downs)
W05: 1pts (1 first down)
Chaz = 8pts
W02: 1pts (1 first down)
W05: 7pts (2 for >20y, 5 for TD)
Barnes = 6pts
W01: 1pts (4 for no sacks/sressures allowed, -3 for false start)
W02: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W03: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W04: -3pts (-3 for pre-snap penalty)
Barksdale = 6pts
W03 = 6pts (4 no S/P, 2 for Key Block)
Bryant = 6 pts
W02: 1pts (1 Pressure QB)
W05: 5pts (4 for TFL, 1 QB pressure)
Giordano = 5pts
W01: 8pts (4 for INT, 3 for FF, and 1 pass defense)
W02: -4pts (-3 for BlownTD, -2 for whiffed tackles/coverage)
W03: 1pts (2 for tackles, -1 for whiffed tackle)
Mitchell = 4pts
W04: 4pts (4 for Sack)
T.Jones = 4pts
W02: 1pts (1 first down)
W03: 3pts (3pts for Fumble Recovery)
Gordon = 2pts
W03: 2pts (2 for Key Blocks)
DVD = 2pts
W05: 2pts (2 for pass def.)
Scott = 2pts
W03: 1pts (1 for QB Pressure)
W05: 1pts (1 for QB pressure)
B.Meyers = 1pts
W02: 2pts (2 first downs)
W03: -1pts (-1 dropped pass)
CJ37 = 1pts
W01: 3pts (2 for more than 4 tackles, and 1 pass defense)
W02: -2pts (4 for more than 6 tackles, 1 pass defense, -3 BlownTD, -4 Whiffs)
Heyer = 0pts
W01; -8pts (-6 for false start, -2 for sacks/pressure allowed)
W02: 4pts (4 no S/P)
W03: 4pts (4 no S/P)
Chekwa = -1pts
W02: -1pts (-1 whiff)
W03: -1pts (2 for pass def., -3 for TD allowed)
W04: 1pts (1 for pass def.)
Boyd = -4pts
W02: -5pts (-3 BlownTD, -2 whiffs)
W03: 1pts (1 for pass defense)
October 11th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
MR, Alez7, Sullivan. Please shut the fuk up!
You have been on this blog slinging sh!t like an ape with rabes, for three days straight. ALL DAY AND NIGHT. Even to the point of talking to yourself when no one else will engage.
What the fug is wrong with you? Is it your goal to kill this blog? It isn’t possible for a douche bag such as yourself to accomplish.
Just die already.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Q………Raiders 31 Cleveland 13 tia.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Big Ted,I see you are giving points for yards per play.What about total yards per game or being the leading rusher or receiver in each game?Shouldn’t total game performance count as much as single plays?Shouldn’t total tackles per game count for something?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
[...] Raiders live chat today at noon In the aftermath of arguably the most emotional weekend in Raiders history after the passing of Al Davis, please join us for an Inside the Raiders live chat today at noon as Jerry McDonald steps in for Steve Corkran today. Live chat: Inside the Oakla… [...]
October 11th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
our Gov gives illegals financial aid for College.
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The whole process of illegals being able to get “benefits” is puzzling to me.
How are these illegals getting Drivers Licenses and SSN#s?
How are they enrolling in college to get financial aid in the first place?
How do they get the documents?
Can’t be fake stuff or they wouldn’t be classified as illegals.
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They’re coming anyway, J. You rather them be on welfare?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
The Justice Department made it clear that lying to Congress will not be tolerated and went after Barry Bonds for perjury….Eric Holder lied to Congress and a special prosecutor will be named by his own Department of Justice and he will be forced by the Pres to step down.
Holder is toast. Already botched the terrorist trials in NY and re-opened investigations into the CIA operatives who had already been cleared of any wrong doing. Now he oversaw this botched sting that lead to a dead border patrol agent and then lied to Congress about even knowing about it…..yeah, he is gone lol.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
WAD,don’t single him out.What about the buffoon he is arguing with?He is just as bad!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
LA to TheBay = guilty of non-Raider banter.
Apologies, Nation. Ignorance just gets to me, is all.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Jerry do anything but speculate?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Typical libtard response.
How about we dont let them in fuktard?
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# LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
They’re coming anyway, J. You rather them be on welfare?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
The moderators should take note of who is disrupting this “RAIDER” Blog with non-RAIDER crap and put them in the penalty box (block their i.p address) for at least 24 hours for every infraction. These trolls have nothing better to do than screw up a Raider related resource.
MODERATORS – DO YOUR JOB!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
You tell him JB, standup, let your voice be heard!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
“How about we dont let them in fuktard?”
I agree with you!
October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
WAD, is a cross-posting troll himself, right Brien?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
priesttj Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
JB I don’t disagree with the Al Saunders as a talent evaluator at all I think that would work well. But get Bruce in here for contracts and negotiating trades and and the cap.
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Good choice but is he available? Somehow I have to believe that Al Davis left specific instructions on who should be doing what and who should be brought aboard to assume the GM position. That very well could have been Bruce Allen if they were still on good terms with each other. That I don’t know.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
KK, did your wife wake you up from your nap or did you roll off the bed ?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
They’re coming anyway, J. You rather them be on welfare?
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Same questions.
Don’t you have to have some type of documentation to get on welfare?
Why are there not federal officers arresting these people at the SS office, DMV, and Welfare offices?
I don’t get how they are able to come here and get “services” with no ID, Green Card, or SSN.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Checked out Ticketmaster, the only tix available are in the club section. It looks like Sunday’s game is going to be another sellout.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
These trolls, care nothing about the Raiders. Just here, because they have nothing else to do.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
1:05 Comment From kdub
How would you rate J Campbell so far this year?
1:06 jerrymac: 3-2.
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I sure miss JMac.
Ring would of filled the blog with his bloated opinion.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/11/eric-dickerson-al-davis-nfl-los-angeles-rams-st-louis/
Eric Dickerson on Al Davis.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Typical libtard response.
How about we dont let them in fuktard?
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Typical conservative, knuckle-dragging response.
Go build a wall, MB. A very small one around your trailer with no doors or windows.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Don’t you have to have some type of documentation to get on welfare?
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Lots of loopholes to that.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
So who is really on the trading block? Bush? Murphy? Rolando McWhiffer? Just who do you think & why? Remember, we could definitely use more draft picks this upcoming year and we really need a real MLB.
A real MLB prospect? Vontaze Burfict has been mentioned as a possibility. He looks good on some of his YouTube highlights. kind of the crazed dog we’re looking for.
Check him out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcsffTQojI
October 11th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Was Papa really talking about Louis Murphy being traded?
October 11th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Gotta grab some lunch. Back later.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
WAD, is a cross-posting troll himself, right Brien?
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If that’s what you think Krappy, I am all good with it. B has more passion for the Oakland Raiders than most. You on the other hand have spent the last 3 years that I know of completely maligning Al Davis and everything the man stood for. Now all of a sudden you shed tears, and your wife stroked your purty little head.
fug yourself.
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
JB Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
So who is really on the trading block? Bush? Murphy? Rolando McWhiffer? Just who do you think & why? Remember, we could definitely use more draft picks this upcoming year and we really need a real MLB.
A real MLB prospect? Vontaze Burfict has been mentioned as a possibility. He looks good on some of his YouTube highlights. kind of the crazed dog we’re looking for.
Check him out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcsffTQojI
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there are quite a few videos of him being a j@ck@ss on the field too….. stupid penalties, missing tackles because he is going for the knock out, etc
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
We have borders and people come through illegally and then sponge off of tax payers. This is conservative knuckle dragging to you ?
Exactly why I will never vote for a Dem and wouldn’t piss on a liberal if he or she was on fire.
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LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Typical conservative, knuckle-dragging response.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
“Why are there not federal officers arresting these people at the SS office, DMV, and Welfare offices?”
Because the bleeding hearts would scream bloody murder!
“I don’t get how they are able to come here and get “services” with no ID, Green Card, or SSN.”
I am not sure how they do it but you and I are paying for it and its bankrupting our state.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
And you prob voted for J Brown.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I am not sure how they do it but you and I are paying for it and its bankrupting our state.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
So let me get this straight …
An illegal can gain access to this country, and go straight to the department of welfare and get money and healthcare?????
This seems like a bigger issue than Rep or Dem. Seems like someone bigger than all that is ok with it.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
There’s nothing funnier than when the intellectual giants who frequent a football team’s blog start debating politics.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
We have borders and people come through illegally and then sponge off of tax payers. This is conservative knuckle dragging to you ?
Exactly why I will never vote for a Dem and wouldn’t piss on a liberal if he or she was on fire.
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LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Typical conservative, knuckle-dragging response
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Dude, you have big time problems. I hang out with people I don’t agree with politically and have engaged in many an interesting, sometimes heated debate. But when you say you wouldn’t p;ss on a liberal to save them, I believe you. Which makes you a very, very troubled human being. And I use that term loosely.
Most people sponging off tax payers are your cousins in trucker hats driving brand new Suburbans. Believe, that, Adolf.
Anybody who wants to go to college, more power to them, regardless of where they’re from or how they got here.
I guess the core difference between me and you is that I’ll pay to make society better, whereas you’ll pay to keep farm subsidies alive, the rich richer, and people of various colors the world over poor or dead.
Please don’t procreate.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
POST-374,WELL SAID..
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Hey Sully
If you’re going to troll successfully, you need to at least have an IQ that falls w/in the average range and you need to display that you read and can analyze w/out bias. You clearly fail on all accounts.
The Wall Street Heist was the result of the Bushies wanting people who couldn’t afford homes to get them, and Dems Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, and that two standard deviations below average IQ idiot Maxine Waters along with illegal immigrant apologist Luis Gutierrez–the guy who wants to import poverty on a perpetual basis. Trolling for votes at the expense of those of us who work our tails off for a living and who sacrificed to save for a down payment is something unrelated to party politics. Your one-sided offerings are evidence of silliness.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
At least MR-Alex7-Sullivan is back in his hole, musta got kicked out of the library.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
“Why are there not federal officers arresting these people at the SS office, DMV, and Welfare offices?”
Because the bleeding hearts would scream bloody murder!
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What would they be screaming bloody murder about?
They should be detained and deported if they are bold enough to walk into a state of federal building knowing they are here illegally.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
J, Americans have a funny perception of who is on welfare.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
335.priesttj Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
JB I don’t disagree with the Al Saunders as a talent evaluator at all I think taht would work well. But get Bruce in here for contracts and negotiating trades and and the cap.
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It still seems to me that Al brought Sanders in for that purpose.
He hired Jackson two years ago to fix the offense, and he did but then the next year he hires offensive guy Sanders.
Since he was happy with Hue, he must have known that he was dying and brought him in to be some kind of GM.
Otherwise it makes no sense bringing in Sanders when Hue had been successful.
It still seems to me that’s what Hue was talking about when he said it’s all in place.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
J Hill, you dont live in California do you? You are oblivious to what goes on here. And yes its a Dem controlled state from the legislature since 1975. Liberals are steam rolling this country 1 state at a time!
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# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
So let me get this straight …
An illegal can gain access to this country, and go straight to the department of welfare and get money and healthcare?????
This seems like a bigger issue than Rep or Dem. Seems like someone bigger than all that is ok with it.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
378.Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
At least MR-Alex7-Sullivan is back in his hole, musta got kicked out of the library.
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He came on here on the day Al died as B. Halverson and was pretty unbelievable.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Raiders 42 Browns 10
Add me plz Q
Thanks
Go Raiders
October 11th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I’m not talking about American citizens on welfare, LA.
That’s a whole different conversation.
I have no problem with folks who have proper credentials using the system the best way they can, lol.
I really don’t have a problem with the illegals doing their thing either. I never knock the next man’s hustle.
I just find it interesting that people who beef about the illegal problem don’t realize that loopholes are NEVER an accident. Someone bigger than all of us is ok with the so called illegal problem.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
“They should be detained and deported if they are bold enough to walk into a state of federal building knowing they are here illegally.”
I agree 100%
But that’s not what is happening is it?
This is a huge concern as our state is going bankrupt and there is no politically correct way to deal with illegal immigration at this time. The big problem I have with it is there are so many people who go through the procedure legally (Pay the money get your shots finger prints show you will not be a burden to the state etc.) and its just unfair to them.
Immigrants sneaking in a country has to be a major concern to Homeland Security. They spend all of this money on securing flights and docks, shipyards etc but if I was a terrorist I could easily sneak a bomb through the Mexican border if I wanted to.
Just doesn’t make sense.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
J,they don’t want them deported.They’d lose their housemaids,butlers,chauffeurs.The farmers would lose their cheap labor.Swear shops would lose their workers.The list goes on.Isn’t it funny we attack the poor immigrant trying to better themselves,yet nothing is done to those that hire and harbor them?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Give it a rest JC lovers. JC is at the helm and I hope he is not here to stay.
This is the best worst we have seen since after our superbowl run. The fact that it is a very young team means they might get better with practice and game reps. Hu jackass has shown he can’t lead a team and players to improve, its not happening before our eyes so sit back and cry about the show.
So first the complaint on Jc wqs he was “too safe” “captain check down”. Now he is throwing deep picks several times a game, & now your killing him because he has missed?!?!? Deep passes are not easy and no qb will hit all of his attempts, especially a low percentage deep throw. Why do you expect JC to be any good? The deep sideline is as much on the young wr group as it is on Jc. Jc has to lead to the sideline on most of those patterns to keep the ball away from the saftey help. The receivers need to give more cushion on the sideline to allow a pocket for the ball to be dropped into. In fariness there have been more than a couple that JC simply led too far to the outside, but again it is a two way street.GO CHARGERS!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
378.Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
At least MR-Alex7-Sullivan is back in his hole, musta got kicked out of the library.
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He came on here on the day Al died as B. Halverson and was pretty unbelievable.
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I read some of it, disgusting.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Sweat shops
October 11th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
J Hill, Illegals are the core voting block of the Dem party. Wakeup son! You should google Ohbhamas Dream Act…here’s a snippet.
“Last Friday, with no fanfare, no press coverage, and with every effort made to hide his actions from the American people, President Obahma snuck through the spirit of the DREAM Act via an ICE memo.
Opposed by a majority of the American people and twice defeated in Congress, the DREAM Act grants amnesty to any illegal alien residing in the United States if s/he agrees to enlist in the U.S. military or enter college”
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
# JB Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I can see that this blog has degraded to everything but CHARGER football. I’m outta here for now. Maybe later this evening.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Neil B..
Whooooop! We did it, we beat Portugal, won the group, Sweden beat Holland and became best 2nd’er! which means Ronald and Portugal is in the playoffs!
Hellz YeahZ, Denmark is going to European Cup!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
“They’re coming anyway, J. You rather them be on welfare?”
Many states require proof of residency for a rather long period of time. Unfortunately, CA has only a 6 month residency requirement and even then welfare workers look the other way–the better to have job.
Actually, don’t pay them and they go back across the border–which is the only good thing to have come from this Depression-Recession. In my community, the two high schools alone have lost a combined total of approx. 800 students, in the last year and a half, almost all of which were students who either didn’t speak English or spoke it poorly enough to have been enrolled in special classes. A good assumption is that they were here illegally. They’ve left. Let’s hope for good. They were draining us dry financially. I suggest those who wish to argue on their behalf go to Mexico City with their next demonstrations. After all, Mexico is a country rich in natural resources–oil and beautiful coastlines on both shores. Let the Progressives take their demands to the Mexican government.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Spewing political rhetoric in here just for the sake of showing your GOP colors is very sheepish and probably how FOX news wants them to talk.
I don’t like either party, I hate bloated government but this lie that its all the democrats fault is very amusing when both parties waste our money excessively.
You would have to be a very short sided person to not see that.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
That someone bigger is your pres of the united states!
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# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Someone bigger than all of us is ok with the so called illegal problem.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Us trolls, care nothing about the Raiders. Just here, because we have nothing else to do.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
J,
Per Wiki, why someone bigger may not have the same kinds of problems that someone smaller would:
Wages and employmentGeorge J. Borjas, an economist at Harvard University, has argued that illegal immigration may reduce the economic status of U.S. poor while benefiting middle class individuals and wealthier Americans.[98][verification needed] The presence of illegal immigrants and the exploitation of them may drive down wages for certain sectors of the American populace, further widening the socioeconomic gulf between rich and poor.[99]
Research by Borjas, Jeffrey Grogger, and Gordon H. Hanson suggests that a 10-percent immigrant-induced increase in the supply of a particular skill group reduced the black wage by 4.0 percent, lowered the employment rate of black men by 3.5 percentage points, and increased the incarceration rate of blacks by almost one percent.[100]
These claims are supported by impressive credentials, but not by census data.[101] The illegal immigrant population in the United States produces an annual economic consumer demand of approximately $150 billion.[102] The direct economic impact of $150 billion in consumer demand from illegal immigrants directly employs just under 8 million people, or about 5% of the United States workforce.[103]
[edit] Consumer demandTexas has the second highest population of illegal immigrants, and The Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas indicates that putting a halt to current deportation policies will improve the US economy by encouraging increased economic consumption.[104]
The decline in consumer demand created by declining immigrant population matches the start of the Great Recession that began with foreclosures in 2007.[105
October 11th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I am a cross-posting troll myself, right Brien?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
We have borders and people come through illegally and then sponge off of tax payers.
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I don’t see how MistaBrown can be wrong on that one
Any elected leader who doesn’t defend the sovereignity of the US is a pizz poor leader.
Illegal immigrants take the jobs of Americans.
There are a lot of people standing in line all over the world at US embassies waiting years for a legal visa, how can it right for someone to just walk over the border?
Also, why the fuk are you talking about this on a Raider blog?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
mope & change
October 11th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
I do live in So Cal.
Moms lived in Tucson for 20 years, so I’ve been hearing about this illegal issue for quite some time.
Az is a Rep state.
I used to ask her the same questions. How on earth can an illegal go to downtown Az and get paperwork that allows them healthcare benefits?
How are they able to come to your state and get documents that allow them to be “serviced”?
Everytime I go to a hospital, bank, job, hell – you name it, you have to AT LEAST have an id.
I’ve never applied for welfare or govt services, but I would imagine that some form of ID is required.
Quite simply, illegals should be scared to “show themselves” at ANY state or federal building because they know they will be detained and deported.
Hospitals should have to report to the INS when patients come in who are illegal.
It’s not that hard to correct the issue. But again, I’ll say that someone bigger than a simple Dem or Rep is ok with the cheap labor coming in to this country.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
J Hill, Illegals are the core voting block of the Dem party
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Wow, laughable.
College-educated whites and African Americans would have something to say about that.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
MB, Ob@ma’s not going to be president until another Democrat takes office in January of 2017. You know that. So just find a new team GO CHARGERS!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
MB, Al Davis was a bigger story than Fast and Furious. lmfao.Wonder hot hot it is where he’s at?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
387.lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
J,they don’t want them deported.They’d lose their housemaids,butlers,chauffeurs.The farmers would lose their cheap labor.Swear shops would lose their workers.The list goes on.Isn’t it funny we attack the poor immigrant trying to better themselves,yet nothing is done to those that hire and harbor them?
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Exactly what I’ve been trying to imply, Lefty.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Dvrick
do you really need to come in here anymore wit ur BS
Go Away B*tch!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Laughable?
What illegal is voting Rep you moron? Who gives illegals Amnesty Reps or Dems? You are a utter buffoon!
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LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
J Hill, Illegals are the core voting block of the Dem party
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Wow, laughable.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
387.lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
J,they don’t want them deported.They’d lose their housemaids,butlers,chauffeurs.The farmers would lose their cheap labor.Swear shops would lose their workers.The list goes on.Isn’t it funny we attack the poor immigrant trying to better themselves,yet nothing is done to those that hire and harbor them?
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This is part of it but the issue is deeper than that.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Don’t I have to have some type of documentation to get on welfare?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
J,they don’t want them deported.They’d lose their housemaids,butlers,chauffeurs.The farmers would lose their cheap labor.Swear shops would lose their workers.The list goes on.Isn’t it funny we attack the poor immigrant trying to better themselves,yet nothing is done to those that hire and harbor them?
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When was the last time an employer did time employing illegals? Never happens. Like MB pointed out, there seems to be a lot of illegals in the usa. Why is it then that very few employers are getting “caught” hiring the illegal in the first place?
Almost sounds like illegals getting the usa welfare, is kinda like china subsidizing their workers living/health expenses. The usa just don’t pay for the rental?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
393.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Neil B..
Whooooop! We did it, we beat Portugal, won the group, Sweden beat Holland and became best 2nd’er! which means Ronald and Portugal is in the playoffs!
Hellz YeahZ, Denmark is going to European Cup!
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I just watched Scotland v. Spain.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Core voting block?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
We have borders and people like me come through illegally and then sponge off of tax payers. This is conservative knuckle dragging to you ?
Exactly why I will never vote for a Dem and wouldn’t piss on a liberal if he or she was on fire.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Beautiful!
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The Obahma administration memo to John Morton, Director of I.C.E. (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) directs I.C.E. agents now to use “prosecutorial discretion” with regard to enforcing immigration laws.
Director Morton says that Obahma Administration policy directs border patrol agents not to enforce immigration laws: “When ICE favorably exercises prosecutorial discretion, it essentially decides not to assert the full scope of the enforcement authority available to the agency.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
dvrick Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Don’t I have to have some type of documentation to get on welfare?
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Not sure, I’ll ask MB’s cousins at Wal Mart later.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
#400-illegals take the jobs of Americans.WRONG,illegals take the jobs Americans WON’T do.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
# JB Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
The moderators should take note of who is disrupting this “CHARGER” Blog with non-CHARGER crap and put them in the penalty box (block their i.p address) for at least 24 hours for every infraction. These trolls have nothing better to do than screw up a CHARGER related resource.
MODERATORS – DO YOUR JOB!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
In 2008 everyone was pissed off at the GOP and voted a record number of Democrats into office.
2010 the Tea Party had its victories.
What has changed “NOTHING” they both suck!
Neither party has the answer they both waste and spend and then point fingers at each other playing the blame game and some of you in here play that game as sheepish as you are.
I will be interested to see how the 2012 election turns out.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
J Hill, there’s your “someone bigger”.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
J Hill, Illegals are the core voting block of the Dem party.
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How are illegals voting??????
Again, don’t you have to have a Driver’s License or some type of ID?
Don’t you have to be a registered something or another?
How do illegal people register????
LMFAO!!!
Are we really suggesting that there are federal voting violations going on here and no one is going anything about it?
We’ve had a few Republican controlled congresses recently, right? Why do you think they have let this go on?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
# r8dercain Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
JB
do you really need to come in here anymore wit ur BS
Go Away B*tch!And GO CHARGERS!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
but the issue is deeper than that.
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Enlighten us, would ya?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
403.LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
J Hill, Illegals are the core voting block of the Dem party
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Wow, laughable.
College-educated whites and African Americans would have something to say about that.
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Well, actually that is what Democrats are hoping for but they are going to very suprised when they realize that hispanics are a pretty conservative ethnic group.
There are a lot of Rubio’s out there.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
We have borders and people like me come through illegally and then sponge off of tax payers. This is conservative knuckle dragging to you ?
Exactly why I will never vote for a Dem and wouldn’t piss on a liberal if he or she was on fire.
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I wouldn’t piss on them either. But I would try and stomp the flames out.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
# Sullivan44 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Only low level people like me are going to get subpoenaed, if anyone. Holder won’t get one. This isn’t the big one, MB. Get used to that. How long now has the right been trying to stir this up? These types of things never work.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
# Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
378.Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
At least MR-Alex7-Sullivan is back in his hole, musta got kicked out of the library.
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He came on here on the day Al is burning died as B. Halverson and was pretty unbelievable.
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I read some of it, Right on the money.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
GOOOOOOO CHARGERSSSSSSSS!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
417.lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
#400-illegals take the jobs of Americans.WRONG,illegals take the jobs Americans WON’T do.
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That is flat out wrong.
Americans don’t take these jobs because the jobs are so badly paid not because an American is afraid to get dirty.
And the jobs are so badly paid because illegal immigrants are willing to work for virtually nothing and some employers are willing to pay nothing.
Put a decent wage on those jobs and Americans will take.
The people always hit most by illegals taking jobs are the poor–black, white and asian.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
MR really? Now its your alter ego the 12 year old, you are a piece of garbage.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
LA to the Bay,
Conservative, liberal, libertarian, whatever–it’s pure madness to import poverty by the tens of millions and not expect poverty to overtake your own community. That is why immigration policies decades ago required strict adherence to policies. Most of us are descendants of those people let in through those policies, but we recognize that had this country let in every Irishman, every Italian, every Pole, every Spaniard, every Portuguese, every Mexican, every this, every that who wanted to cross the Atlantic and who did so w/out sponsors, we would have had little Italys and Southies in so many neighborhoods of the country we would have sunk long ago. We can’t continue to import poverty and expect to overcome poverty and we can’t continue policies that are magnets to that poverty.
I’m done.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Of course the answer to all this illegal immigrant crap is to end the welfare state. Politicians use their give aways to buy votes, of course they take their cut off the top. Then they sell their influence to the corporations and “double dip”.
Everyone would be a lot better off if we did away with the government scam. The bureaucrats and politicians are the problem. A free people can solve anything.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
J Hill is fit to be tied looking for help from Rep congress that only controls 1 branch after voting Dem his entire life.
LMFAO!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Sometimes this blog really sucks…trolls, politics, threats, random speculation taken as gospel…where is the real football talk?….just like the 1st post says: “Yawn”
October 11th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Hue Jax about to be on PTI on ESPN
October 11th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
417.lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
#400-illegals take the jobs of Americans.WRONG,illegals take the jobs Americans WON’T do.
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That is flat out wrong.
Americans don’t take these jobs because the jobs are so badly paid not because an American is afraid to get dirty.
And the jobs are so badly paid because illegal immigrants are willing to work for virtually nothing and some employers are willing to pay nothing.
Put a decent wage on those jobs and Americans will take.
The people always hit most by illegals taking jobs are the poor–black, white and asian.
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This kind of thinking will only allow China to maintain its momentum. MANUFACTURING has all but left the USA for the price of the cheap worker. Wake up.
The cheap worker does not exist in the USA. Just attempt to get something manufactured at a internationally competitive price. YOU CAN”T DO IT!!
Why do you think it is that the Bay bridge being built in the SF bay area, is bing shipped to the USA in pieces from China.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
J Hill,
I said I was done, but I guess not. In partial answer to your question, one way it’s done is very simple–you have your baby here in the US(I am in CA) and once you have done that, you can go to the welfare office and collect money because of the kid. You can be sent home by immigration if they so choose to tell you, “Your baby can stay and we will place him/her in foster care but you have to go back.” This dissuaded the deluge. However, the whole foster care system was flooded with kids from our own citizens and so these people are rarely separated from their kids and there are so many illegals, officials don’t know where to start and the issue became politicized as we all know.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Englander,ever see a white guy working in the fields picking fruit.Oh,wait,you don’t even live here so I guess the answer is no.Notice who is the housemaid,right,usually an immigrant and probably illegal.The question is why aren’t the people who knowingly hire them punished instead of the mob mentality attacking the worker.Because they are part of the wealthy ruling class and they manipulate the masses through venues like FOX propaganda promoting hate.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
The myth of the minimum wage. If it works, why not raise it to $1000 an hour?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
# lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
#400-illegals take the jobs of Americans.RIGHT,illegals take the jobs Americans would do.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
# Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
MR really? Now its your alter ego the 12 year old, I am a piece of garbage.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
393.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Neil B..
Whooooop! We did it, we beat Portugal, won the group, Sweden beat Holland and became best 2nd’er! which means Ronald and Portugal is in the playoffs!
Hellz YeahZ, Denmark is going to European Cup!
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I just watched Scotland v. Spain.
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Kool, how did that go? I assume Spain won their group, as well as England!
Im must admit, Im pretty proud to be in such an elite group as group winner! 3 of our starters were either benched or without a team, and still we did it…
the 3 worst paid Portuguese players earn more than our entire team LOL! take that suckers (ronaldo go fix your hair!)
October 11th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
And through it all theres our fearless leader fast tracking illegals, spending money we dont have, selling weapons to Mex drug lords, etc etc etc
The wheels are completely off!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
# lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Englander,ever see a black guy working in the fields picking fruit.Oh,wait,you don’t even live here so I guess the answer is no.Notice who is the housemaid,right,usually an immigrant and probably illegal.The question is why aren’t the people who knowingly hire them punished instead of the mob mentality attacking the worker.Because they are part of the wealthy ruling class and they manipulate the masses through venues like CNN propaganda promoting hate.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
When did I say I was looking for help?
I’m suggesting to everyone complainging about the illegal issue to redirect your argument.
Who sets the policies for the California Department of Welfare? Or any state welfare agency for that matter?
How hard is it to get a memo out to all folks working the windows at these places to press the red button if someone shows up without proper credentials.
How can you blame a Dem or Republican for illegals being able to walk up to state and federal institutions with NO FEAR of being detained?
And are you suggesting that the illegal issue wasn’t an issue when Bush was president?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
“WRONG,illegals take the jobs Americans WON’T do.”
Well, the car wash down the street employs nothing but illegals and when at the urging of their teachers some high school kids tried to get summer and after-school jobs there, they were told no jobs were available. I called immigration and they said they had so many calls they probably couldn’t get out there for quite some time. They were vague about it.
Illegals are being employed by one housing developer in the area–doing carpentry, plumbing, the whole thing. No one stops them. Don’t try to tell me that we don’t have people who want those jobs.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
We only had 10 guys on the field during the last play of the Houston game?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
Wow…
October 11th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
When did I say I was looking for help?
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# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
We’ve had a few Republican controlled congresses recently, right? Why do you think they have let this go on?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
luvmarvhub,
I’m not advocating illegal immigration. However, I’m not opposed to allowing a path to citizenship or allowing these people to get a higher education.
I’m merely addressing J Hill’s question of why the border is so porous (and the “drug war” is a whole ‘nother story entirely) and trying to debunk a lot of myths that exist about welfare and who’s on it.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
# lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Big Ted,I see you are giving points for yards per play.What about total yards per game or being the leading rusher or receiver in each game?Shouldn’t total game performance count as much as single plays?Shouldn’t total tackles per game count for something?
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MUP Point Structure
Rec/Rush: Td’s = 5pts
Plays over 20 yards = 2pts; 40yards = 3pts; 50yards = 4pts
First-Down = 1pts
Drop = (-1pts)
Poor blocking = (-2pts)
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QB:Td pass = 5pts
Pass over 100 = 2pts; 200 = 3pts; 300 = 4pts
First-Down = 1pts
Int = (-4pts)
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Defense: Pick six = 5pts
Over 4 tackles = 2pts; 6 = 4pts; 8 = 5pts
Int’s = 4pts
Sacks = 4pts
FF = 3pts
FR = 3pts
TFL = 2pts
Pass broken up = 1pts
Pressure QB = 1pts
Whiffed Tackle/Coverage = (-1pts)
TD’s pass/rush allowed = (-3pts)
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Offense: Most agressive blocker = 5pts
No sacks/QB pressure allowed = 4pts
Key Block = 2pts
Sacks given up = (-2pts)
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Pre-snap penalty = (-3pts)
FUMBLE = (-4pts)
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“Heads-Up” Heyer Award = 6pts: awarded each week to player who showed the best awareness
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Total Tackles are indeed accounted for, remember, most starters were not eligible for the MUP list, so most team leaders don’t appear in the point totals (I only post totals for players on the list who have earned points.)
Thanks for the suggestions Lefty, But game totals are reflected by individual plays. I’ll gladly change the point structure if you can come up with a way to incorporate those scores.
Personally, I feel that the Defensive players are getting the short end of the stick in these point totals, but maybe our defensive youngsters just aren’t very good, yet.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Luvmarvhub, if that is what is happening, you can bet that some bureaucrat is being paid off.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
442.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
393.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Neil B..
Whooooop! We did it, we beat Portugal, won the group, Sweden beat Holland and became best 2nd’er! which means Ronald and Portugal is in the playoffs!
Hellz YeahZ, Denmark is going to European Cup!
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I just watched Scotland v. Spain.
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Kool, how did that go? I assume Spain won their group, as well as England!
Im must admit, Im pretty proud to be in such an elite group as group winner! 3 of our starters were either benched or without a team, and still we did it…
the 3 worst paid Portuguese players earn more than our entire team LOL! take that suckers (ronaldo go fix your hair!)
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Spain won 3-1. And I wasn’t happy with that but I can’t say Scotland deserved since they didn’t have a goalie.
I don’t you for being proud of that man.
Enjoy it.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
REPOST
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MODERATORS – DO YOUR JOB!
IT IS NOW TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL… DO YOUR JOB!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
one way it’s done is very simple–you have your baby here in the US(I am in CA) and once you have done that, you can go to the welfare office and collect money because of the kid.
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Parent should be detained at the hospital and sent to immigration. Child should be detained as well. Parent given option to leave child here in the system, or take it with them.
To allow the parent on Welfare is ridiculous.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
You saw what happened to Meg Whitman when it was revealed she fired her housekeeper when it became known to her she was here illegally. This, after she and her husband vetted her and were given documentation. Whitman followed the route she should have and was fried for it. Documentation is not hard to forge–this should be government’s job.
Then, of course, the idiot judges have ruled that while kids must present documentation of vaccinations and such, they do not have to provide proof of citizenship. We are living in Alice’s Wonderland where every rule of law is topsy turvy. Lack of common sense is killing us.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
The USA has priced its self out of the manufacturing labor market.
If there is not a shanty town with open sewer lines near by, you are not in a “manufacturing” country.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
luvmarvhub Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
“WRONG,illegals take the jobs Americans WON’T do.”
Well, the car wash down the street employs nothing but illegals and when at the urging of their teachers some high school kids tried to get summer and after-school jobs there, they were told no jobs were available. I called immigration and they said they had so many calls they probably couldn’t get out there for quite some time. They were vague about it.
Illegals are being employed by one housing developer in the area–doing carpentry, plumbing, the whole thing. No one stops them. Don’t try to tell me that we don’t have people who want those jobs.
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Sounds a lot like you’re concerned about the wrong group of people.
Also, it would help if all of America’s manufactoring jobs weren’t being impoted overseas.
Cheap labor locally, cheap labor abroad. Ain’t America grand?
October 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
446-So why blame the workers?Shouldn’t the blame be on those that employ them?If nobody would hire them, they wouldn’t be here looking for jobs.What is even more hilarious is I read recently where illegals from Mexico are now going back home because they are getting better paying jobs there than here.People hate on the illegals while those that perpetuate the problem are laughing all the way to the bank.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Bros I’ve 5 or 6 illegals working my Reggae Party Boat who kick ass!
My south of the border homies know how to serve a tasty shrimp cocktail in record time, pour the perfect margarita from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and come up with an extra Magnum when I’m partying serious with strippers.
I wouldn’t trade any of them for the world, plus they come super cheap. I usually pay most of them in dirt weed and Big Wave burgers from Islands.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Whoooop! hellz yeahz, Go Raiders, I would hope the game was on now, cant freaking wait!
October 11th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
436, good post.
Oh, and, uh, go Raiders.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I wouldn’t trade any of them for the world, plus they come super cheap. I usually pay most of them in dirt weed and Big Wave burgers from Islands.
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LMAO. Sick fck.
October 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
10 players on the field???!?!!?!?!?
Did anyone notice this? Is this true??
October 11th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
No DHB made it 11 last weekend.
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
10 players on the field???!?!!?!?!?
Did anyone notice this? Is this true??
October 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
448.MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
When did I say I was looking for help?
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# J Hill Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
We’ve had a few Republican controlled congresses recently, right? Why do you think they have let this go on?
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Was that supposed to show that I asked for help?
You’re suggesting that this is a Dem issue, but I know I’ve been hearing about this for YEARS via Az and Moms.
I’m sure during those YEARS we’ve had a Republican president and congress.
Are you really suggesting that the illegal issue is something new? New as in since the new president?
October 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
No DHB made it 11 last weekend.
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
10 players on the field???!?!!?!?!?
Did anyone notice this? Is this true??
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Im talking about the last play where Huff ended it with a pick.
Read on twitter that we only had 10 guys on the field….!?!?!?!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
“However, I’m not opposed to allowing a path to citizenship or allowing these people to get a higher education.”
I am…because the incessant giving in, the perpetual forgiveness of the flow and the awarding of benefits in a myriad of ways is what keeps attracting those who are low-skilled and who remain so for several generations and who swallow up in benefits more than they provide in other ways. I don’t blame anyone but us for tolerating it. That is why I no longer tolerate it and will never again vote for a pol who advances it.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
JB, can you really expect me to remain silent when so much BS is spewed on this blog? I have opinions on what ails this society and when my BS detector goes off I must respond. I come here for Raider news but I must respond to the propaganda, it is my civic duty. LOL
October 11th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
J-bingo!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Lefty, there’s also an underlying issue that people don’t want to address: racism.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I usually pay most of them in dirt weed and Big Wave burgers from Islands.
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LOL!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
No DHB made it 11 last weekend.
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# DeuceDeuce Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
10 players on the field???!?!!?!?!?
Did anyone notice this? Is this true??
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LOL!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
438.lefty12 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Englander,ever see a white guy working in the fields picking fruit.Oh,wait,you don’t even live here so I guess the answer is no.Notice who is the housemaid,right,usually an immigrant and probably illegal.The question is why aren’t the people who knowingly hire them punished instead of the mob mentality attacking the worker.Because they are part of the wealthy ruling class and they manipulate the masses through venues like FOX propaganda promoting hate.
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That’s a little sarcastic for you Leftie.
“Oh wait you don’t even live here”…
Did I ever see a white guy working in the fields…?
What does that mean?!
I imagine that plenty of white, black, and asian Americans would work just about anywhere right now.
All they need is a decent wage scale but they can’t get it when illegals drag the wage scale down.
I know nothing because I live in England?
I was a legal immigrant to the US Leftie and I’m one of those people from all over the world-Europe, Africa, Asia-who waited outside of an embassy for years waiting for a visa.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Are you really suggesting that the illegal issue is something new? New as in since the new president?
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J, conservatives would pin the Lincoln assassination on Barry O if they could.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
471.LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Lefty, there’s also an underlying issue that people don’t want to address: racism.
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Here we go.
When they don’t agree with you they’re a racist.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
# qodrn Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
860Todd Christensen Raiders 34…….Pats 28……..
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–35 CHEATRIOTS–27
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
alex7 Patriots 34, Raiders 23
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Carolina Raider RAIDERS 48 – Pats 31
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DMAC Raiders 34 Patsies 28
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
dvrick RAIDERS–3 CHEATRIOTS–27
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
exlaraiderseasonticketholder 37-34 Raiders
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Guest123 Raider 49 Pats 38
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
HueJackinBullies OAK-44 * NE-41
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says: Raiders 24 Pats: 6
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
oldschoolraider Raiders 29 Patriots 14
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
Pretty Rick Raiders-38 Pats-34
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
Raiders_83 Raiders 34 Pats 31
Raidertalk Raiders 24, Fag-riots 0
Raiderzmaverick Raiders 34, Pats 28
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31 Cheatriots 20
September 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
realtruraider Raiders 31 Pats 27
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Ryan Raiders – 45 Pats – 38
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 33 Pats 30
Sullivan44 7-0, NE.
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As You can see, alex7’s prediction was much closer than MR’s.
alex7 is the week 4 winner.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
who was closest in the Houston game?
October 11th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
They spend all of this money on securing flights and docks, shipyards etc but if I was a terrorist I could easily sneak a bomb through the Mexican border if I wanted to.
Just doesn’t make sense.
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Agreed.
Our defense industry is making wayyyy tooo much money having us fight overseas. Securing our border should be #1 priority but the defense industry would lose money. The military industry complex in this country would never let that happen.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
if someone that can’t speak english takes your job in this country what kind of man are you?
October 11th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I’m pretty sure I have some illegals on the payroll. Pretty sure my foreman is on the up and up, but I know some of those guys I see on the job sites are not.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
“People hate on the illegals while those that perpetuate the problem are laughing all the way to the bank.’
You see, this is how the issue turns personal instead of being based on logic. No one is “hat[ing] on illegals.” We are simply saying, at least I am, that I will not tolerate violation of our borders. The illegals, those who knowingly hire them, the welfare system that is promulgated and grown by politicos and high-up welfare administrators whose own careers are furthered by acting as advocates for violators, the voters who continue to vote in people who are soft on illegal immigration, the bureaucracy that looks the other way….all of these have earned my contempt. I have contempt for myself for having at one time excused the lax policies out of a sense of “oh, the poor things.” Idiocy, I tell you–you can’t be a thinking person w/out finally understanding that conservatism is usually the outcome of having matured and having learned to face some hard truths. Liberalism is a luxury of young, naive mind.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
What the short-sighted Republicans, and their constituents, who won’t make community with anybody but “themselves”, don’t understand is that with a rising tide all boats rise. So does the Country.
Cutting public education, makes this country dumber, less competitive and innovative. And prevents families from entering the middle-class.
No middle-class means no consumer spending. No consumer spending means no hiring. And BrownStains stays out of work.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
BigTed707 Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
# qodrn Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Week One: Ghost – exact score
Week Two: Sullivan – closest
Week Three: Pretty Rick – closest
860Todd Christensen Raiders 34…….Pats 28……..
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–35 CHEATRIOTS–27
/Breaking News/ Raiders 41 NE 31
alex7 Patriots 34, Raiders 23
Big Banana Raiders 31 Pats 28*
Carl Weathers Raiders 47 – patsies 20
Carolina Raider RAIDERS 48 – Pats 31
Dakota Raiders 28 Pats 27
Datruth Score: Raiders 42 Pats 35
Dhedee98 Raiders 42 Pats 34
DMAC Raiders 34 Patsies 28
DonManokiansNeighbor Raiders 42 Pats 34
dvrick RAIDERS–3 CHEATRIOTS–27
EMRaider NE 35 OAK 41
exlaraiderseasonticketholder 37-34 Raiders
Fingers Raiders 35…. Patsies 30….
GG Raiders 41 Patriots 21
Ghostraiders Raiders 40 patsies 35 a Classic win!!
Guest123 Raider 49 Pats 38
Hairybrush Raiders 34 Pats 30
Hendu Raiders 23-ne 17
HueJackinBullies OAK-44 * NE-41
JLofty Raiders 41 Pasties 34
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says: Raiders 24 Pats: 6
mikedlopes 38 – 27 Raiders
Method to My Madness Raiders 30 Pats 21
O Raiders 45 Butt-Pats 35
oldschoolraider Raiders 29 Patriots 14
PlunketforHOF Raiders 34 Cheatriots 14 After Goldilocks knocked out of the game before the half
Pretty Rick Raiders-38 Pats-34
qodrn Raiders 35 Patriots 32
R8derCain Raiders 31 Pats 28
R8derRay 41-38 Raiders
Raider510 Raiders 31 Patriots 28
Raiderjhawk 37 Raiders – 35 Patsies
RaiderLen Raiders 38 Patsies 27
RaiderMarty RAIDERS 41 patriots 24
RaiderRockstar Oakland 38 Gisele Bündchen 34
Raiders_83 Raiders 34 Pats 31
Raidertalk Raiders 24, Fag-riots 0
Raiderzmaverick Raiders 34, Pats 28
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Raiders 31 Cheatriots 20
September 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Reallionreb 38-28 Raiders
realtruraider Raiders 31 Pats 27
Redneck Raider 35-31 RAIDERS
RobRaider raiders 27 pats 20
Ryan Raiders – 45 Pats – 38
Severeraiderz Raiders 35 Pats 31
Silverandblack666 Raiders 41 Pats 38
SilverAndBlackBleeder Raiders 33 Pats 30
Sullivan44 7-0, NE.
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As You can see, alex7’s prediction was much closer than MR’s.
alex7 is the week 4 winner.
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do you not know that they are the same person?
/sigh
October 11th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
The problem with the “honest” left is their absolute and obstinant refusal to learn the most basic economic principles.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
WAD, is a cross-posting troll himself, right Brien?
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If that’s what you think Krappy, I am all good with it. B has more passion for the Oakland Raiders than most. You on the other hand have spent the last 3 years that I know of completely maligning Al Davis and everything the man stood for. Now all of a sudden you shed tears, and your wife stroked your purty little head.
fug yourself.
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see above
October 11th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I imagine that plenty of white, black, and asian Americans would work just about anywhere right now.
All they need is a decent wage scale but they can’t get it when illegals drag the wage scale down.
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England, the problem is the system, not the people. You got a lot of people angry at individuals coming over the border and they’re met with hate and in some cases, violence. For the most part, these are innocent people looking for an opportunity. Most would rather work that collect a govt. check.
Also, you have to look at what corporations are doing by exporting blue collar jobs overseas.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
10 players on the field???!?!!?!?!?
Did anyone notice this? Is this true??
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Im talking about the last play where Huff ended it with a pick.
Read on twitter that we only had 10 guys on the field….!?!?!?!
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SOB – I just checked the playback and sure enough, thee was only 10 Raiders on D on that last play in Houston. Maybe Al Davis was number 11.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Securing our border should be #1 priority but the defense industry would lose money
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the law to get illegal aliens out of this country has been in place since Ronald Regan was president; fine employers thousands of dollars and no one will hire illegals. The question you need to ask is why isn’t the law enforced? Oh yeah because the same “class” that convinces voters that we need to secure our border wants illegals here for cheap labor just ask Bush or Perry
October 11th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
CLEVELAND (AP) Browns defensive end Marcus Benard was driving at a “at a high rate of speed” and crossed four lanes before crashing his motorcycle into a guardrail, according to a police report.
Benard was thrown an estimated 241 feet after slamming his Can-Am Spyder into the guardrail on Monday after practice. Benard, who broke his hand in the wreck, has been charged with driving under suspension and reckless operation. Browns spokesman Neal Gulkis said Benard remains hospitalized at the Cleveland Clinic.
Police said his three-wheeled vehicle traveled 687 feet before coming to rest. The report does not estimate how fast Benard was driving before the crash on Interstate-71.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
KoolKell, public education does not lack for funds. Most of it goes to administrators.
The problem with the economy is not a lack of spending but a lack of production.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
The problem with the economy is that Wall Street ran a $516 TRILLION DOLLAR derivative Ponzi scheme.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Everyone should take look http://www.getmoneyout.com/ and make a differents in how every day americans are treated. The common bickering about the democrats and republicans will not change these current issues as much as I think this movement can. Ben and Jerry’s Ice cream ,as well as, The GOO GOO Dolls are now in support of this movement. Just check it out!!!
I just don’t know how good the others Raider tight ends are other than Boss and Myers. Do any of the other tight ends have hands and speed???
October 11th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Kirk, yes and the tax payer bailed them out, thanks to the government.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I imagine that plenty of white, black, and asian Americans would work just about anywhere right now.
All they need is a decent wage scale but they can’t get it when illegals drag the wage scale down.
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England, the problem is the system, not the people.
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Of course it’s not the people man.
They just seek a better life but so do a lot of Americans. Have you seen the slums in American cites?
And of course greedy employers who want to hire illegal labor for virtually nothing are the problem-that and goverment that won’t do anything about it.
The bottom line is always that illegals take jobs from Americans. And they use social services and the school system from the moment they arrive.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
# Master Beeecham Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Bros I’ve 5 or 6 illegals including me working my Reggae Party Boat who kick ass!
My south of the border homies know how to serve a tasty shrimp cocktail in record time, pour the perfect margarita from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and come up with an extra Magnum when I’m partying serious with with my guy butt buddies.
I wouldn’t trade any of them for the world, plus they come super cheap. I usually pay most of them in dirt weed and Big Wave burgers from Islands.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
# DeuceDeuce Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
who was closest in the Houston game?Probably Al burning below!!!!
October 11th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
And Lefty:
I’m not having some guy telling me I can’t comment on this because I live in England when I shed my own blood on the field for the USA and saw some friends drop.
When I came on here, I said what the fuk are you guys talking about his for on a Raider blog.
Some times you just have to answer people.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Two best names for a quarterback….Colt McCoy and Joe Montana.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
MistaGayrodBrown Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
No DHB made it 11 last weekend.
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October 11th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
LA to TheGay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Are you really suggesting that the illegal issue is something new? New as in since the new president?
October 11th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
# LA to TheGay Says:
October 11th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
436, BAD post.
Oh, and, uh, go CHARGERS.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Dvrick, Go blow Seau. He won a total of ZERO Super Bowls.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RAIDERS SUCCESSION PLAN A.D. (After Davis)
1. Bring in a formidable DC. Now that Al has passed, we might see more coaches willing to relocate to Alameda. Raiders need to have a top 5 defense to be Super Bowl relevant.
2. Bring in a Old Raider to bridge transition for the next generation GM. I’m thinking Madden. Madden can instill the raider way to a new GM.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Bottom line someone has to hire the illegal aliens illegally for them to take American jobs.Who does the most hiring of illegal aliens??? ENGLANDRAIDER may have the money to hire them. I don’t and many Americans dont have the money to hire them.
October 11th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
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October 11th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I have to laugh whenever I hear Cleveland Browns. At least Boston has Red Sox. Unless I misunderstand and a brown is a bear or something. Who names a team after a color?
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