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Raiders work out linebackers

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 at 4:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders worked out linebacker Kevin Malast on Tuesday, according to his agent, as well as linebacker Prescott Burgess, according to Aaron Wilson of Scout.com.
Malast, 25, has not appeared in any regular-season games since he joined the NFL out of Rutgers in 2009. He has spent time with the Chicago Bears and Tennessee Titans.
Malast, 25, is 6-feet-2 and 235 pounds. The Raiders are thin at linebacker in light of Ricky Brown being placed on injured reserve Saturday and starting middle linebacker Rolando McClain suffering an ankle injury Sunday against the Houston Texans.
Malast was released by the Titans in late August, and he has not been with a team ever since. He spent five weeks on the Bears practice squad in 2009.
Burgess, 27, has appeared in 38 games during his five NFL seasons, none as a starter. He has played for the Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots, including one game for the Ravens this season.

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  1. Haters going to hate Says:

    The Raiders only had 10 players on the field on the last play vs Hou.

  2. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Could be moving two guys with Pryor’s spot coming up next week.

    Jerry in his chat hinted at Sho-nasty maybe getting IR’d.

    That would not be good.

  3. TerrapinRaider Says:

    IR’d from a shoulder? What kind of injury did he get?

  4. Master Beeecham Says:

    Dude Slam, no worries on that – these babes are shaved EVERYWHERE, including their eyebrows.

    Guess its the new hot look coming out of Europe in 2014, mo wizzle

    # Ryan Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    French chicks, huh? You might want to buy some razors, as well.

  5. TerrapinRaider Says:

    That Texans game was defintely one for the memories. What a game. Refs tried to give it to ‘em but we took it back.

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I always thought it was a shoulder.

    Jerry mentioned IR in passing, nothing concrete.

    I think CJ37 might get put on ice as well, especially if DVD and Chekwa can continue to emerge.

  7. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    and one more time:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    WAD, is a cross-posting troll himself, right Brien?
    ==============================
    If that’s what you think Krappy, I am all good with it. B has more passion for the Oakland Raiders than most. You on the other hand have spent the last 3 years that I know of completely maligning Al Davis and everything the man stood for. Now all of a sudden you shed tears, and your wife stroked your purty little head.
    fug yourself.

  8. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Is a two year, see no experience rook the answer?

  9. Haters going to hate Says:

    http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OaklandPlayerCount.jpg

    Only 10 Raiders on the field

  10. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How did the refs try to give it to them?

    I saw Routt blatantly grab a guy around the waist on a 3rd down pass, with a ref 10 feet away immediately throwing the flag……only for it to be called off and forcing a punt.

    Also saw the refs go to the replay booth on the last drive, and even though they found the Raiders guilty of a penalty, it actually benefitted us, as they moved them back 7 yards further from the sack on the play (those 7 yards saved a game-winning TD).

    Only iffy call was the Carlisle hold, I thought. The block in the back that was picked up would have moved them back 10 yards, from like the 30 to the 20 (whup-t-do).

    You guys crack me up with these conspiracy theories.

  11. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Haters going to hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OaklandPlayerCount.jpg

    Only 10 Raiders on the field
    ——————
    LMFAO!

  12. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Man, I would not want any other owner for my team than Davis. Al would spend whatever it took to win. You know you’re not rooting in vain. Not many GMs would do that. Only 3 in todays game: Davis, Snyder and Jones. Synder just doesn’t know what he is doing and Jones, well I’m not a Cowboys fan. Al was something special.

  13. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    How did the refs try to give it to them?

    I saw Routt blatantly grab a guy around the waist on a 3rd down pass, with a ref 10 feet away immediately throwing the flag……only for it to be called off and forcing a punt.

    Also saw the refs go to the replay booth on the last drive, and even though they found the Raiders guilty of a penalty, it actually benefitted us, as they moved them back 7 yards further from the sack on the play (those 7 yards saved a game-winning TD).

    Only iffy call was the Carlisle hold, I thought. The block in the back that was picked up would have moved them back 10 yards, from like the 30 to the 20 (whup-t-do).

    You guys crack me up with these conspiracy theories.
    ————————
    I am not adding to the conspiracy, but Coops chop looked suspect as well.

  14. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am the biggest Carlisle fan on earth, but that was A BLATANT chop-block.

    Some type of mix-up between him and Satele. They will call that everytime.

    He went low, and Satele had body contact up high, intentionally or not.

  15. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Routt never turned his head on that pass in the corner of the end zone, and was very lucky not to have that called PI.

    Sure Texans fans were screaming for it.

  16. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    How did the refs try to give it to them?

    I saw Routt blatantly grab a guy around the waist on a 3rd down pass, with a ref 10 feet away immediately throwing the flag……only for it to be called off and forcing a punt.

    Also saw the refs go to the replay booth on the last drive, and even though they found the Raiders guilty of a penalty, it actually benefitted us, as they moved them back 7 yards further from the sack on the play (those 7 yards saved a game-winning TD).

    Only iffy call was the Carlisle hold, I thought. The block in the back that was picked up would have moved them back 10 yards, from like the 30 to the 20 (whup-t-do).

    You guys crack me up with these conspiracy theories.

    *******************************

    No conspiracy theories here. Refs were simply calling a very bad game.

    That review on the T.Kelly face mask should have never been reviewed!! No flags were thrown on us. That was B.S. imho.

    Cooper Carlisle fantom hold negated a DMC near TD.

    T.Kelly getting called for roughing the passer because he fell to the ground and kept going after the QB. Weak! I think that was even on a 3rd down.

  17. Orthodoxdj Says:

    Al was the 11th Raider.

  18. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Blantant chop block???!!! What the hell were you watching???!!!

    Satele never engaged the man! And someone posted before that by definition a chop block is when a player 2 players away on the line at least engages the same blocker. Not the next guy on the line! The guy was falling into Satele!

    And Routt didn’t touch the man! Thats why no flag was drawn.

    What the heck are you seeing out there?

  19. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Cleveland leads the league in NOT turning the ball over(4). Raids are 12th(6).
    Raids defense needs to get a pry a few loose from the Browns.

  20. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No conspiracy theories here. Refs were simply calling a very bad game.

    That review on the T.Kelly face mask should have never been reviewed!! No flags were thrown on us. That was B.S. imho.

    *************************

    Will agree it was a badly reffed game. But I think it was badly reffed on both sides, which is a wash.

    The review is reviewable (the Colts started that with their no-huddle offense always catching guys running off the field) and BENEFITTED us. If not for those 7 yards we got from it, that Schaubb pass completed to the 5 yardline would have been a TD.

    The Seymour personal foul is from the Brady rule, and is called all the time. I remember Soup getting that call one time last year. May be a stupid rule, but it is called consistantly and I knew it was going to be a flag immediately.

  21. new englandraider Says:

    Look at this.. That rat faced loser.

    http://larrybrownsports.com/football/elvis-grbac-mike-shanahan-ordered-me-to-throw-a-football-at-al-davis-head/91492

  22. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    I am the biggest Carlisle fan on earth, but that was A BLATANT chop-block.

    Some type of mix-up between him and Satele. They will call that everytime.

    He went low, and Satele had body contact up high, intentionally or not.
    =======================
    my lying eyes saw Satele blocking down(to the left), the guy Coop chops basically engaged Satele’s shoulder as he rushed inside( to Sat’s right).

  23. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What the heck are you seeing out there?

    *****************************

    I’m not seeing the Raiders getting screwed.

    Every team, every week, is going to be on the wrong side of an iffy call.

    That was a chop-block. You can’t go low on the guy, if he is be engaged by another guy.

    Believe me, if I could muster up an excuse for Cooper Carlisle, I would. Him and Satele blew it by not being on the same page.

  24. TerrapinRaider Says:

    So count that:

    1. B.S. chop block call on Satele
    2. B.S. ruffing the passer call on TK
    3. B.S. CC holding call on a DMC run. Near TD called back.
    4. B.S. review when no flag is drawn, instead of minus 10 or 15 its minus 5yds.

    I’m sure there are more. Just bad game by the refs. Very bad. We got a call or two in our favor but it was really weighted into the Texans favor.

  25. new englandraider Says:

    http://larrybrownsports.com/football/elvis-grbac-mike-shanahan-ordered-me-to-throw-a-football-at-al-davis-head/91492

  26. inonewordraider Says:

    FVCK SHANARAT THAT FVCK!

  27. inonewordraider Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    So count that:

    1. B.S. chop block call on Satele
    2. B.S. ruffing the passer call on TK
    3. B.S. CC holding call on a DMC run. Near TD called back.
    4. B.S. review when no flag is drawn, instead of minus 10 or 15 its minus 5yds.

    I’m sure there are more. Just bad game by the refs. Very bad. We got a call or two in our favor but it was really weighted into the Texans favor.

    _____________________
    one blatant pass interference we didn’t get called on was because ball was tipped, roughing the passer on Sey

  28. new englandraider Says:

    I hope the Oakland boys get their hands on that rat faced loser and stomp this p!ss outta him.

  29. Just Fire Baby Says:

    4. B.S. review when no flag is drawn, instead of minus 10 or 15 its minus 5yds

    ***************************

    Are you talking about the Groves 12 men on the field call?

    The original play was an 8 yard sack, and we declined the 15 yard facemask penalty (debatable whether Hue should have accepted or not; yards were more important then than downs).

    After the review, they called the flag on us, but the 15 yard facemask trumped it, so instead of 2nd and 18, it was 1st and 25.

    Houston made it to the 5 yard line. Those 7 yards won the game.

    I vote for that review call saving us the game.

    Refs did us a solid on Sunday.

  30. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Dude, I don’t know how you saw chop block when Satele didn’t even engage the guy. And if he did its was BARELY! Coop cut him down low and he was falling in Satele’s direction! That wasn’t a high-low job. Not at all. And again, someone posted that by rule it cannot be considered a chop block. It was no chop block. Period.

    And that review DID NOT benefit us! Houston was -15 or -10yds because of they grabbed TK’s face mask. That review ened up GIVING them 10 or 5yds back. It did not benefit us.

  31. new englandraider Says:

    post 30

    You are incorrect my friend. That review did HELP us. The sack pushed Houston back 8 yards, the penalty pushed them back 15 yards. We gained an extra 7 yards there.

  32. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And that review DID NOT benefit us! Houston was -15 or -10yds because of they grabbed TK’s face mask. That review ened up GIVING them 10 or 5yds back. It did not benefit us.

    ******************************

    Do you even watch the games (LOL…inside joke)??

    That is NOT WHAT HAPPENED!!!

    It ended up 1st and 25, instead of 2nd and 18.

    They lost 7 yards of field position due to the challenge.

    The only issue is whether Hue should have accepted the penalty in the first place, instead of the sack. Normally you would always take the down and the sack, but it was 4 down territory due to the game circumstances, and I think the yards were more important than the down.

  33. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The replay is coming up again in about an hour and a half.

    Watch it again Terrapin. That review was a gift to Al.

  34. inonewordraider Says:

    The only issue is whether Hue should have accepted the penalty in the first place
    _——————–
    Hue wanted it 2nd and 18 which is why he was waiving to decline the penalty not realizing there was also a penalty on the Raiders

  35. supapimp Says:

    relive the game. the emotional raiders vs texans game will be on NFL replay at 6:30 PST/9:30 EST on the NFL network.

  36. new englandraider Says:

    Houston was at their own 48 yard line when Schaub was sacked for an 8 yard loss taking Houston back to it’s own 40. The penalty was then enforced, taking Houston back to it’s own 33

  37. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hue wanted it 2nd and 18 which is why he was waiving to decline the penalty not realizing there was also a penalty on the Raiders

    ********************

    I realize this.

    I’m saying any other time in the game, you clearly take 2nd and 18 over 1st and 25.

    But at the end of the game, when a punt on 4th down was not an option, I think the yards were more important. Certainly debatable.

  38. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Wait a minute. If the sack pushed them back -8yds. They reviewed, negating the sack but accepting both penalties, either -10 or -15 for the facemask and +5 for too many men; that means the result was either -3 Houston moves the ball back or +3 for Houston, right??

    I don’t think Hue was just pretending to be upset.

  39. JT Says:

    RAIDERS SUCCESSION PLAN A.D. (After Davis)

    1. Bring in a formidable DC. Now that Al has passed, we might see more coaches willing to relocate to Alameda. Raiders need to have a top 5 defense to be Super Bowl relevant.

    2. Bring in a Old Raider to bridge transition for the next generation GM. I’m thinking Madden. Madden can instill the raider way to a new GM.

  40. Tjbwall Says:

    Raiders get f#cked over by refs constantly and consistantly this is not up for debate

  41. johnnyswing Says:

    They obviously looked at the film of Sunday’s game (and the rest of McClain’s lowlights) and saw how lost McClain is out there…

  42. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And I am not saying that to take a shot at Hue like he did something wrong.

    It was an odd circumstance.

  43. raiderinparadise Says:

    I can’t believe we actually had only 10 players on field for last play. I youtubed it. Wow. There was great coverage on the WR’s tho. and the pressure forced schuab to have to move left and throw right like a girl.

  44. new englandraider Says:

    38 terrapin

    No, the 5 yard penalty against us is not enforced because of the 15 yard personal foul.

    Let me try to be clear, or more clear.

    Houston was at their own 48. Schaub takes the snap and gets sacked at Houston’s 40 yard line for an 8 yard loss.

    They then review the play. Groves didn’t get off the field so a 5 yard penalty is called. However, we now have the right to accept the penalty we had declined.

    The penalty we accept was obviously a 15 yard face mask, which trumps the 5 yard penalty, making it null and void.

    ONLY the 15 yard penalty WAS enforced.

    Houston’s next play came on a 1st and 25 from their own 33 yard line. That review backed Houston up an additional 7 yards.

  45. Just Fire Baby Says:

    They reviewed, negating the sack but accepting both penalties,

    **********************

    They didn’t accept both penalties.

    Did you have audio for the game? The ref said by rule the Texans had to decline in offsetting penalties, due to the 15 yarder, thus allowing the 15 yard penalty, instead of the play.

    Hue was mad because he would have rather it been 2nd and 18 instead of 1st and 25, but as it turns out, those 7 yards were more important than the down.

  46. TerrapinRaider Says:

    OK. I think you fools are right.

    (1:29) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub sacked at HOU 48 for 0 yards (93-T.Kelly). Penalty on HOU-65-M.Brisiel, Personal Foul, declined. The Replay Assistant challenged the too many players on field ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub sacked at HOU 48 for 0 yards (93-T.Kelly). PENALTY on HOU-65-M.Brisiel, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at HOU 48 – No Play. Penalty on OAK, Defensive 12 On-field, declined.

  47. Twocents Says:

    Madden is old and out of the loop. What Al would do and what I think needs to be done, is find a young guy that has vision. I wish I knew who that guy is.

  48. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I was at a Raider bar and it was LOUD! (And I was drinking and emotional)

  49. new englandraider Says:

    Raiders at Texans

    THE SITUATION: Houston had the ball, first-and-10 at the Houston 48-yard line with 1:22 left in the game. Oakland led 25-20.

    DRIVE FOR FIVE
    The NFL season has reached its fifth week, and the action is more intense than ever. We’ve got all the best images from the slate of games.
    THE PLAY: Houston quarterback Matt Schaub was sacked by Oakland’s Tommy Kelly. A penalty was called on Houston’s Mike Brisiel. It was declined. However, the replay assistant called for a review to see if the Raiders had too many players on the field. The review showed Oakland did have 12 men on the field, so the penalty against Brisiel was enforced for 15 yards and the penalty against Oakland for 12 men on the field was disregarded by rule.

  50. new englandraider Says:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/osi-umenyiora-doug-baldwin-charlie-whitehurst-seattle-seahawks-new-york-giants-refs-got-no-offside-call-on-td-correct-100911

    There is the link

  51. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I was at a Raider bar and it was LOUD!

    ****************

    Been there before.

    Had no audio for a lot of Raiders games when I lived in Vegas.

    Remember the SD game when Jackson got up without being touched and spun the ball, but it was called an illegal forward pass or something.

    Had no audio, and was confused as hell. Didn’t get an answer until I got home.

  52. new englandraider Says:

    51

    That was BS. That illegal forward pass junk. I remember that very well

  53. Tjbwall Says:

    Just Fire baby,

    How do these 2 “correct calls” have anything to do with the Raiders being on the good end of bad calls…or as you say “conspiracy theories”

  54. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Bruce Allen

  55. raiderinparadise Says:

    Big Questions: Will Reece or Gordon be back at FB? Will Murphy be back? McClain was noticeably limping after he got “nicked” up and he sucks anyways … who is the back-up? Sam Williams lol.

  56. No Mas Diamante Says:

    trade murphy and his viagra to seattle for wallace

  57. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t follow Tjbwall.

    I don’t think their is a conspiracy against the Raiders.

    Jason Campbell has drawn more personal foul calls than any other QB not named Tom Brady the last two years (fact).

    I saw crappy calls this past week go both ways. We certainly benefitted from one “picked up” flag, and the challenge thing damn near won us the game.

    I don’t do conspiracy theories. Not for JFK, Aliens, 9/11 and anti-Raider ref theories.

  58. raiderinparadise Says:

    trade murphy? hmmmmmm only for Aaron Curry lol

  59. raiderinparadise Says:

    Nah you gotta keep murphy, our WR our talented and all cheap except heyward-bey is pricey but paying off. Lofa Tatupu must have an awful knee, if the carolina panthers didnt even want him after they lost 2 starters for the year.

  60. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Camp gets a lot of calls because he is fragile quite frankly. So almost any hit is a hard hit.

  61. raiderinparadise Says:

    We have 4 TE’s … somethings gotta give. Ausberry, Gordon, Meyers and Boss? Murphy might take one of their spots.

  62. ghostraiders Says:

    51…
    I remember that game…. did we lose that game?? I know for a fact that if we would have done that…. the zebras would have called it a fumble. . Those ahole refs would have never given us a break like that….LOL.. its embarrassing all the crap They pulled…. the tuck rule takes the cake though..

  63. TerrapinRaider Says:

    All the DHB haters have gotten so quite. Its refreshing to come in here and not read that sht anymore. A few are holding on to thier antiquated thoughts, but most have been stunned into quietness.

    214yds in 2 games. lol. but he sucks. lol. yeah right.

  64. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I mean Curry for murphy. sorry…

  65. Twocents Says:

    The NFL hates Al Davis. They are not going to call off the dogs until he and his family are banished from their memory. Some suit is going to buy out the Davis family and then they will be like any other NFL franchise, loyal servants to the almighty power of the cartel. The Raider Nation will be vanquished and the East Coast power structure will have won.

  66. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Camp gets a lot of calls because he is fragile quite frankly. So almost any hit is a hard hit.

    ***********************

    LOL…..I don’t know about that.

    I would put it more on us being such a good offense we quite frankly frustrate the defense a bunch.

    But both the roughing the passer in the Jags game and Steelers game last year, reversed a defensive TD each time.

    Both seemed pretty bogus, but worked out for us.

    Both hits, also, eventually led to Soup missing a series or more.

  67. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Lets see how long he sustains this streak. I’m pulling for him. His route running has improved tremendously.

  68. new englandraider Says:

    I say fire Myers. He, like Nick Miller has done nothing to warrant a roster spot. He is constantly whiffing on blocks. He gets out ahead on runs and screens, and doesn’t touch a single opponent. Dude is junk IMO.

  69. ghostraiders Says:

    Jfb… c’mon man… I don’t do conspiracy theories either… but what happened at new England. . In that tuck rule game was some horrible refereeing. …. you should atleast admit that much..

  70. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Boy, if DHB has another 100yd game this week all haters just need to shut it cause there would be no doubt he’s one of the best WRs on the team if not THE best and deserved to start all along. Crazy isn’t it?

    On the other hand, Ford needs to wake up.

  71. new englandraider Says:

    64

    Were you thinking of Aaron Wallace, Our old LB?????

  72. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I hope mark is a able to keep the team. Gonna be hard though. maybe he should sell to ice Cube and magic Johnson. or tiger.

  73. No Mas Diamante Says:

    @71 – yeah. i was . tired brain after a long day.

  74. new englandraider Says:

    Have a good night gentlemen. I am out.

  75. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tuck rule was a shame, but I have seen it called the same way since than in other games.

    Get the first down the drive before they get the ball, stop them on 4th, Vinitari miss a FG….on and on.

    Any of those happen, and it doesn’t come down to the tuck rule.

    Crappy call; not a “conspiracy”.

  76. Twocents Says:

    But look at it way, at least you will have learned how the native Americans felt.

  77. raiderinparadise Says:

    Welcome back Murphy.
    Hagan/Meyers to Seattle for Aaron Curry?

  78. new englandraider Says:

    73

    I hated that clown. Was supposed to be a great LB. He sucked.

  79. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gotta run as well.

    Good job gents, moving the topic to football and away from the politics from the previous thread.

  80. No Mas Diamante Says:

    what happened with the rookie tight end Ausberry? that people were talking about? Is he hurt?

  81. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Sht if DHB has another 100yds game he may eclispe his total all last year! lol

  82. Tjbwall Says:

    I don’t follow Just Fire Baby.

    1) Maybe Jason Campbell has gotten more PF calls in the last 2 years because he has been personally fouled? His fouls are not near as questionable than Brady fouls.

    2)You say crappy “calls”. Ok well I saw 1(maybe)…the call was called a PI, but after looking at it again the officially called it correctly, it was not a PI. The correct call would be a holding call

    3)Kelly’s facemask was held and Groves was on the field as the 12th man. Raiders did not benefeit from a bad call they benefitted from the correct call.

    Officiating was horrible nontheless. Do not forget there were bad calls against the Raiders also that accounted for nearly all of Mcfadden’s -to be- yardage

  83. new englandraider Says:

    75

    Living here in Mass, some 25 miles south of Foxboro, I was at that game. I sat in the endzone in which Viniateri kicked the game winning FG. On one of those plays in which we had the ball late, either Ty Law or Lawyer Milloy (I cant remember which) actually dragged down Rice on one play, no call, and I believe James Jett (who scored a TD that game) was also mauled late with no call whatsoever.

  84. ghostraiders Says:

    Terp…. its a long season man… if he stinks it up again… they will be back guaranteed. . And you will be defending his horrible play….. its by far the best game he has had in 3 seasons as a Raider…. Im happy he’s playing well… I wont bash on him anymore. .. but u wouldn’t gloat either. ..IMO

  85. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Terrapin… you live in MD?

  86. Tjbwall Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
    Tuck rule was a shame, but I have seen it called the same way since than in other games.

    =================================================

    LOL WHEN?

  87. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # Haters going to hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    The Raiders only had 10 players on the field on the last play vs Hou.
    ===================================================

    Unbelievable. That play just doubled in mystique.

    The further away from Sunday, I get the more I realize what magical day that was.

    That play needs a name now.

    “The Immaculate Interception”?

    Any thoughts?

  88. zopi Says:

    Never heard of this LB Malast, hopefully he can play some.

    I am sure RoMac will play even with a gimpy ankle, he was able to shake it off and return to the Texans game. But, next man up, if he can’t go.

    By now there shouldn’t be a question of NFL conspiracies against the Raiders, that was taken care of like 20 years ago. What we have now is blatant bad officiating. And you’d better believe referees talk to each other before games, and talk about calling it closer on the Raiders than any other team. However, Hue is right, it’s better not to dwell on referee calls or non-calls, and just move on.

    Then again, it appears that other teams don’t get such closer looks. I don’t know if anyone noticed the SD vs Den game. SD had 0 penalties, hard to believe that after a full game, there were none called on them.

    There was no chop block by Carlisle, he hit low but Satele was engaged with another defender, bad call. Let’s not forget that on consecutive games, the refs picked up two flags that favored the Raiders; there was a tangle rule called against the Raiders on the NE game, and another not called against the Texans. And, notice HueJax going crazy on the sidelines after the refs blew a snap clock, and Hue had to burn the last time out.

    Just terrible officiating, the 12th man review was new to me, when was the last time anyone saw a review on a penalty. However, there should be reviews on penalties, that way the refs would call it sharper. That would only make the games last forever. Maybe getting younger refs would help.

  89. zopi Says:

    Never heard of this LB Malast, hopefully he can play some.

    I am sure RoMac will play even with a gimpy ankle, he was able to shake it off and return to the Texans game. But, next man up, if he can’t go.

    By now there shouldn’t be a question of NFL conspiracies against the Raiders, that was taken care of like 20 years ago, and reaffirmed with the Snow Job (tuck rule BS).

    What we have now is blatant bad officiating. And you’d better believe referees talk to each other before games, and talk about calling it closer on the Raiders than any other team. However, Hue is right, it’s better not to dwell on referee calls or non-calls, and just move on.

    Then again, it appears that other teams don’t get such closer looks. I don’t know if anyone noticed the SD vs Den game. SD had 0 penalties, hard to believe that after a full game, there were none called on them.

    There was no chop block by Carlisle, he hit low but Satele was engaged with another defender, bad call. Let’s not forget that on consecutive games, the refs picked up two flags that favored the Raiders; there was a tangle rule called against the Raiders on the NE game, and another not called against the Texans. And, noticed HueJax going crazy on the sidelines after the refs blew a snap clock, and had to burn the last time out.

    Just terrible officiating, the 12th man review was new to me, when was the last time anyone saw a review on a penalty. However, there should be reviews on penalties, that way the refs would call it sharper. That would only make the games last forever. Maybe getting younger refs would help.

  90. new englandraider Says:

    If I may jump in on this DHB stuff.

    I reain skeptikal of DHB. I can be labeled a “doubter”, I guess. I will say two things. First and foremost I would love to be proven wrong, as I am sure all of us “doubters” actually root for DHB to succeed. I know I do.

    The second thing I would like to say, is he is catching the ball and it looks a lot better than previous years. By it, I mean the whole catch process. Is he still “body catching”? Sure he is. I don’t care if he catches with his hands, his body, his feet, or if JC can lodge the ball in his facemask.

    To be more succinct, it just looks like he is more comfortable, a lot less nervous, and is not fighting the ball into his hand so-to-speak. IMO, he looks a lot better than he did last season.

    He did have that one whizz through his hands late in the HOU game though.

    I’d also like to add, I love the fire and passion I am seeing out of DHB. He is a notorioussly diligent worker, and that bodes well for DHB as well as us fans.

    Like I said, I am a doubter, but I must admit, I am doubting less and less.

  91. JLofty Says:

    I have NEVER seen a penalty called on a review, but I read that was a new rule this year. Weak sauce.
    The NFL officials are the worst in ANY sport save maybe soccer but I don’t watch much of that…

  92. JLofty Says:

    BTW, we don’t have a backup MLB on the roster do we? WIth RB going down and SamWill losing his scholarship…

  93. JLofty Says:

    Blackwell or DavisIII they are OLBs I think.

  94. new englandraider Says:

    86

    The tuck rule was called in a game the week we played NE. Maybe Buffalo/Cinci. I don’t quite remember. However, being an NFL Sunday Ticket Holder, and an avis betting junkie, I go back and forth between all the early games when we play late, and over the last 2 or 3 seasons, I HAVE seen the tuck rule called several times.

  95. raiderinparadise Says:

    Blackstock a UFL player of Chuck Bres. Is he going to get MLB time against browns?

  96. new englandraider Says:

    Blackstock. I actually thought he played the run well at times in the preseason. Made a few plays. Blocked a punt week one VS Dungver too

  97. TerrapinRaider Says:

    85.No Mas Diamante Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
    Terrapin… you live in MD?

    ***********************

    not any more

  98. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Raiders/Texans on NFL channel at 9:30pm Eastern time!

  99. raiderinparadise Says:

    IMHO blackstock is fine with me, maybe McClain rests this week and Blackstock plays with heart and McClain realizes his job may be at stake.

  100. new englandraider Says:

    86

    Here you go

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/cincinnati-bengals/09000d5d822bf475/Bengals-saved-by-tuck-rule

  101. new englandraider Says:

    IMO that is a fumble all day though. Just like Brady

  102. raiderinparadise Says:

    Ausberry plays some special teams. Thats it.

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    Oakland 42
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  104. Demon Raider Says:

    has Rocky McIntosh been signed by anyone? If not, why don’t we take a look at him.

  105. ghostraiders Says:

    That Houston Game does deserve a name…. I would call it… the hand of al game….. when that running back dropped the ball at the 10 yrd line… for an easy touch down. .. you know al Davis spirit… just slapped that ball down…. there’s your name…..The hand of al game!!! … well I’m sure rod woodson would agree… those were his words..

  106. ghostraiders Says:

    Demon. .. the only McIntosh I want…. is my computer! ! Just kidding .. never heard of him…

  107. Tjbwall Says:

    Thank you New Englandraider,

    pump fake, the QB decides not to throw the ball, fumbled it, but its not a fumble

    Dumbest rule in the book

  108. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Its early, but you compare DHB to Crabdiva you prefer DHB. Better average per catch. Crabdiva is a short game WR. DHB stretches the field. The reason for the pick is clear as day.

    DHB = 2009/13.8ypc, 2010/14.1ypc, 2010/16.4ypc

    Crabdiva = 2009/13.0ypc, 2010/13.5ypc, 2010/12.0ypc

    All this crap about cant catch the long ball and him being a short game WR is a bunch of crap. Its just a last ditch effort to save face and say the guy can’t do something. Its one excuse after another after he proves you wrong again and again.

  109. new englandraider Says:

    107

    I agree with you. I feel as though that’s an obvious fumble

  110. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Houston game definitely deserves a name. That was one helluva game man! Down to the last second. The hands of Davis.

  111. Raider56 Says:

    Haters Going To Hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    The Raiders only had 10 players on the field on the last play vs Hou.

    +++++++
    AL Davis was the eleventh man

  112. ArtilleryShell Says:

    Sigh, late joining in, but in a crucial situation to have 10 men on the field does not inspire confidence in Bresnahan. We don’t really have much in the way of a backup for Romac once Ricky Brown went down. We need a Aaron Curry just for depth if nothing else. I would trade a player, not a draft pick, but Seattle might be leery of any more Raiders after Zach Miller and Gallery.

  113. ArtilleryShell Says:

    As for a name for hte Houston game, Raider56 gave it to us, “The 11th Man”

  114. ArtilleryShell Says:

    Hope you guys really represent Sunday. Being an East Coast guy, I would love to be there.

  115. ghostraiders Says:

    OK.. go ahead.. keep talking smack.. I’m telling you!,… its the first game where dhb puts it together. … I know now That he has it in him… but I assure you… most of his critics will come back… he was playing horrible for his first 2 seasons.. dmoore looked much better… you will never admit that… but its the truth!! ……. as far as him being a better pick than craptree. … no argument from me…. dhb looked good in 1 game… I expect him to continue playing as well…

  116. JB Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    BTW BigTed707 Just a note on what a fantastic job you’re doing on the MUP. Thanks so much for all you do my man.
    *********************

    Ditto – especially since my pick was D-WOW!

  117. davidon Says:

    104

    He’s on the Skins (and plays)

  118. TerrapinRaider Says:

    What are you talking about I won’t admit that? You have me sadly mistaken

    I think Moore is a more natural pure WR than DHB and looks better comparatively rookie year vs rookie year. He’s much more polished.

    But that doesn’t mean I should talk down DHB. I think that is the kid YOU WANT to succeed! With added emphasis. He has the most upside in the whole corp (maybe, just maybe save Moore). DHB has the size, speed and agility that could make him the most dangerous weapon in the WR corp. He will be hell to stop. Thats who you really want to succeed with added emphasis.

  119. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Re: the Tuck Rule Screwing. IMO the reason it was total BS was that Brady had pulled the ball down and had BOTH HANDS on the ball when it was knocked out. If you have both hands on the ball you no longer are in the act of a) throwing or b) tucking the ball. How long after deciding to not throw are you still in the motion of throwing?.. When the throwing arc has stopped? (It had) Or when the whistle blows? (C’mon man)

  120. ghostraiders Says:

    Terp… I just want the best players in the game…. that’s all I ever wanted… honestly.. until the Houston game… I’ve never seen dhb play that well… you wont hear me be critical of dhb from now on…. because I finally saw him play with determination and conviction….. it really was awesome to see… I still like dmoore. .as our best wr. .. but dhb did a great job.. .. he was the best receiver we had on Sunday. ..

  121. priesttj Says:

    I certainly hope Reece is back it’s obvious how bad we need his bigplay ability the offense seems somewhat stagnant without him. His plays out of the backfield are huge. And we need Gordon for short yardage did you see that 3rd and short debacle? get those guys back. Reece is a security blanket for Camp.

    I love the wya they are using Ford now in the short crossing patterns with and quick outs but he is not running full speed yet.

  122. Thec07 Says:

    Even better was lining up DMAC as a WR

  123. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I think we get a variety of skills and performance from our WR corps. I’m a big DWOW fan, but he didn’t do much in the Hou game. DHB did. Hagan seems like a clutch guy you can depend on to move the chains. Chaz (my MUP) came up big with a TD.. (his only catch?) Ford hasn’t done what he did last year, but seems like he could any game. When any receiver can deliver at any time, how the hell do you gameplan on defense? That’s what I’m liking about Raiders WR’s.

  124. priesttj Says:

    T’pin I definitely agree DHB’s size speed and athleticism is sick combo. All he needed and we’ve been saying this for a year was CONFIDENCE on Sunday. He has that now and it shows as he gains experience in how to use that body of his by shielding off DB’s and bumping them out of breaks then that awesome verticle with that speed.

    DHB could become an elite rec’r in a year along with Ford and Moore and Murphy this rec’g corp could be at thet top of the list. At some point Ausberry needs to get it together he obviously is struggling in practice because Myers is terrible. We need Ausberry’s speed down the seam to open up the wides.

  125. Thec07 Says:

    Coach Jackson has yet to unveil TJ…… I think he is saving that card.

  126. TerrapinRaider Says:

    DMC is a HOF playa. Yeah I said it. If he continues the way he is running he will be HOF. DMC is beyond good. His running is phenomenal. Its like he is at a higher level than anyone on the team and we have some damn good talents on this team.

  127. PlunkforHOF Says:

    DMAC is money… nuff said

  128. priesttj Says:

    Plunk we’ve all said it before forgetabout it there is no gameplanning this team once they put it together. It’ll be pick your poison, because you’re going to die one way or the other.

  129. Thec07 Says:

    Agreed meyers is slow as hell and quite frankly help keep the jets close with his thrid down drop

  130. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Word Priest.. who the hell are you gonna double? oops.. wrong!

  131. TerrapinRaider Says:

    DMC is at a higher level. That boy is playing the game at a level you rarely get to see. Its phenomenal.

  132. Thec07 Says:

    Ford needs to get his game legs however, i am inclined to move him to the slot

  133. new englandraider Says:

    123

    Plunk

    Chaz had 2 catches.

  134. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Watching DMC on some runs is literally like watching a video game.

    I’m big on Peterson and would still probably still prefer him if I had to choose; but DMC is so damn good its a tuff call. They are like 1a and 1b. The best backs in the league.

  135. PlunkforHOF Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
    DMC is at a higher level. That boy is playing the game at a level you rarely get to see. Its phenomenal.

    ********************************************

    Loved his 70 yd run.. like he was gliding thru, effortlessly and everyone else was at 2/3 speed.

  136. ArtilleryShell Says:

    We are a good draft and training camp away from competing for the championship, but then we will have contract issues. Our O-line can improve with the changes suggested, but Barksdale is not that quick. Wiz could help him out when he is not facing a 3-4 Def or not picking up a blitz.
    Our Def needs a shutdown corner and a LB corps committed to stopping the run.

  137. Thec07 Says:

    Will be the same for LMURPHY he will need time to get back to game speed

  138. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Can I get a CODE MTHRFKING BALCK!!

  139. PlunkforHOF Says:

    dang I got excited BLACK

  140. priesttj Says:

    Artillery, that “11th man” was big Al…

  141. Thec07 Says:

    CODE BLACK

  142. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Replay is on NOW!!!!!!!!!!

  143. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Man if I didn’t have a full plate this weekend, I would SO get down the hill to the O.. raise a glass to Al for me my friends.

  144. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    For those who didn’t see the game, Raiders/Texans on NOW on NFL channel.

  145. Thec07 Says:

    LB Corp committed to smashing heads. I hope mmclain steps up his game. He manned up in the second half. Had the type of hit on schaub that a mlb should make. Hope he improves.

  146. PlunkforHOF Says:

    I agree Thec.. LB’s need to step up. They DID play better in the 2nd last week.. let’s build on that.. I was watching the Green Bay game on Sun.. man that’s some kind of LB corps.

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    Oakland 42
    Browns 10

  148. PlunkforHOF Says:

    Alright my friends.. gotta go

    CODE BLACK remains in effect

  149. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Should be fun to watch Macfadden and Peterson go head to head when we travel to Minny later this season. Hope both are healthy

  150. aig-raiders Says:

    holycrap, we only had 10 men on the last play and still won. There has to be a nickname for this game. AD himself must have been the phantom 11th db on that play.

  151. TerrapinRaider Says:

    That run DMC had in SD last year where he caught the edge,stiff arming a would be tackler and then bulldozed the next tackler into the endzone head on officially served notice, This guy is for real!

    That was prob the most impressive run I saw from him last year. If you only knew how hard that is to do in the NFL.

    Now I also have to consider his Jax run where he spinned off one tackle, then split defenders, THEN stiff armed a would be tackler getting in the endzone. It was like watching a video game.

  152. aig-raiders Says:

    87 was wide open on that JC sack.

  153. aig-raiders Says:

    DMAC is one mean mofo on the football field.

  154. Raider56 Says:

    SILVER SUNDAY

  155. HueKnows Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    87 was wide open on that JC sack.
    ****************************
    JC had no room to throw it, there was no pocket pretty quick
    besides thats the play mario went out when he grabbed him by the helmet (which should have been a penalty)

  156. TerrapinRaider Says:

    This game has to be nicknamed. Its was epic. It only lacked the playoff atmosphere. But every other element was there. Epic.

  157. aig-raiders Says:

    Call it the Phantom DB.

  158. morilla Says:

    That sack Seymour had just before the half was a thing of beauty. He tossed his guy around like a ragdoll and bulldozed his way right to the QB.

  159. Raider56 Says:

    SILVER SUNDAY in honor of our silver haired owner. Look at the replay we are in all white with their silver hats. the autumn wind is a raider. or may Autumn Win

  160. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    This team is getting better every game, with no pre-season, this is getting really exciting. People are stepping up, learning curve is getting sharper, I’m proud of our young team, they are finally playing like one that wants to win, sorry Nnam, you made a career decision, live with it!

  161. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Jano makes it look easy, good pick, AL!

  162. GForce21 Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    That run DMC had in SD last year where he caught the edge,stiff arming a would be tackler and then bulldozed the next tackler into the endzone head on officially served notice, This guy is for real!

    That was prob the most impressive run I saw from him last year. If you only knew how hard that is to do in the NFL.

    Now I also have to consider his Jax run where he spinned off one tackle, then split defenders, THEN stiff armed a would be tackler getting in the endzone. It was like watching a video game.
    ————–

    That run against Jax is still my favorite. He flashed a bit of everything, speed, agility, power.

  163. Chris in NY Says:

    Agreed 860ToddChristensen,

    BTWs, Nice screen name. One of the most underrated players of all time. Saw a graphic during a game recently that showed Witten on a list of TEs with the most receptions or receiving yards in I believe a three-year span. The announcer reading the list sounded befuddled, almost embarrassed that TC was tops on the list. Christensen put up numbers comparable to Winslow while playing in that same era. For some reason Winslow is considered possibly the best of all time while TC rarely even gets mentioned as a possible HOF candidate. Whatever.

  164. JB Says:

    It will be nice when all of our offensive weapons are 100% healthy, available & on duty.

    • Soup
    • DMac
    • Bush
    • TJones
    • Reece
    • Boss
    • DHB
    • Ford
    • D-WOW!
    • Schilins
    • Hagan
    • Murphy

    This is one large boatload of offensive power. When they all get on the same page – LOOKOUT!

  165. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    G-Force, this team this year are showing it on all fronts, critics aside, we have burps, but this team will go somewhere in the next 10 years, book it!

  166. JB Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Agreed 860ToddChristensen,

    BTWs, Nice screen name. One of the most underrated players of all time. Saw a graphic during a game recently that showed Witten on a list of TEs with the most receptions or receiving yards in I believe a three-year span. The announcer reading the list sounded befuddled, almost embarrassed that TC was tops on the list. Christensen put up numbers comparable to Winslow while playing in that same era. For some reason Winslow is considered possibly the best of all time while TC rarely even gets mentioned as a possible HOF candidate. Whatever.
    *******************

    I saw Todd Christensen play, he was gold. He was a converted FB and he never looked back. Back in the day, Oakland always had the leading TE’s:
    • Billy Cannon
    • Ray Chester
    • Dave Casper
    • Todd Christensen

  167. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Chris ny, Todd got it done every day, many games playing hurt, old Raider true to this team. A greater example of Raider belief, Raider example, Raider tradition, I can not name! He is as true a Raider example as any you can name. Third and whatever, he got it done, even while bleeding, he bled Silver and Black!

  168. priesttj Says:

    This could be an Epic year there is something about this team that says special and I’m talking about the way they go about their business. It’s just starting to come together in ways we haven’t seen since the last SB year.

    DMC DHB Huff DVD Chekwa WizII Ford Routt McClain LHouston Reece Branch MM34 Veldheer Moore TJ Barksdale Bush Ausberry Gordon Jano. All players when you mention them have Big Al written all over them.

    Then the classic FA pickups and trades the mark his career Seymour Cartwright Camp Boss Moss Wimbley Hagan all typify who he was as a football man going about the business of biulding a team.

    PS I know some of you doubt Terrelle Pryor but who else would take that chance but Mr D.? many of those players I named people laughed when he drafted and traded for them or picked them up. But that’s how he biult teams great teams of the past thaat is how he did it. While they were laughing he just gave one command “just Win baby” and they did. Soon the laughter stopped…

  169. Chris in NY Says:

    We look tough. Really, really tough and like we’re only going to get better.

    The o-line is playing great. Veldheer at a Pro Bowl caliber level at LT.

    The d-line is fierce with the likes of Seymour (5.0 sacks in 5 games), TK, Henderson, Shaughnessy, Houston and Bryant plus the speed rush capabilities of Moss and Wimbley.

    McFadden is arguably the best offensive weapon in the NFL right now. Bush is both agile and bruising, a former Heisman candidate himself.

    We’ve got explosive wideouts in Ford, Moore, Murphy and DHB who are capable of scoring on any given play. As well as big guys like Schilens and Hagan with steady hands and the guts to go over the middle (and they’re both very athletic as well).

    Boss is an excellent blocker and receiver.

    Huff is one of the best safeties in the NFL. Branch is coming into his own. And I’ve always been a big MM fan and the intensity he brings to the field.

    One of the best punters of all time.

    Janikowski is a true difference-maker in the K position.

    Campbell is playing by far the best football of his career.

    Everywhere I look I see big, fast, powerful players with heart that are coming into their own and should only get better. I see an excellent and fearless head coach.

    I see a team that could make a special run this season.

  170. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    TJ, I’m in, there is something going on I really like. Raider Football. Been here since 64, and we are getting back to the basics here, and it is showing. But this new team is gelling, believing, and getting better every game. Most posters don’t remember the great teams, great games, Heidi, but I’m so optomistic about our young club, so many weapons, so many things Al Davis has let in his legasie. Al will never be replaced, only emulated!

  171. mizza Says:

    priest – i feel it too.

  172. priesttj Says:

    Chris if they start to live up to their potential this team will make a run sometime during this season it may only happen late but I’m telling ya’ they’re going to go on a 4-6 game win streak when teams are just floored by their speed and quickness. And overwhelmed by their power in the front7.

  173. Silverandblack666 Says:

    That was fun watching the game again!

  174. EMRaiders Says:

    There were only 10 players on that last play. That you could see anyway. But you know what, the 11th player was Al Davis.

  175. CDERaider Says:

    Best Raider win in many years. Talk about a rollercoaster ride! Wow, bout gave me a frigin heart attack but what an ending – can’t say I wasn’t tearing up at the end there. If you were listening on the radio it was an amazing call by Poppa.

    This game could be the turning point for a run this year and beyond.. I really we have something going.

    Dline played great. Run D was solid against a quality opponent and a top 5 NFL rusher, except for the 1st series. Kudos to Moss stepping up with ShoNasty out. He’s proving to be a classic Al Davis steal. Seymour is just straight out ballin and getting Kelly and the young pups to really stand up.

    McClain still not playing well, but was around the ball a little more at least but he’s got to improve and quick. Groves looked lost 1st series but then got it together. We need to sign some depth at LB, maybe 2 guys as McClain got dinged and he can’t get any slower..

    Can’t FINg believe they gave up a 3rd and 23 to setup that final play! Unacceptable on Boyd/Huff/Branch. Branch gets the real kudos for the game winner making Schaub have to pull up and pass it. Man, Branch was lightening quick to come up from 4 yds deep in the endzone in a flash and first prevent him from running it in and then making him throw it quick and off balance. He saved the game.

    JC looked just pretty bad most of the game. Not sure what’s up with him he’s got that look in his eyes from last year again.. but he did make an excellent step up in the pocket and hit a crossing Schillens (every announcer and talking head calls him Shillings which is really annoying). JC’s deep ball, especially to the right side, is really hurting us and preventing alot more big plays from happening. Ford was doubled and 1st and 10 from the 2 – that was a terrible decision and could have easily cost us the game … JC needs to start playing alot better and I think he will this week. We need 13 for 19 with 160 yds and 1 TD and nothing more. NO TURNOVERS!

    DHB.. DHB? DHB????!!! (insert Jim Mora’s twang) Wow! 2 weeks in a row. Well if he can keep winning the 1 on 1 battles on the stop route he’s money – lol – and counter with the double move and JC get him the dang ball he might be a real consistent threat. Still think Hagan is the better of the two and with Murph coming back there’s an issue .. but, but.. keep proving me wrong DHB – Young Man Rumble! You might be something yet.

    Overall. Can’t really complain though can we?!!! Big win against a very good team in a tough tough situation. Have to take a pat, I called it and they came through – got +190 on my money line bet!! Love Hue is embracing the Al attitude (us against the world) and he’s winning. Amazing, really.. Maybe this is the beginning of something great. Look out Browns, we are going to open up a can.. And the rest of AFC West? HAAHAA!!

    RIP, Al Davis. You were truly one of a kind and thank you for giving us the the NFL as we know it today and especially for the one and only RAIDERS! It will never be the same without you and you will never be forgotten in the minds and hearts of the true Raider fans around the world.

    I’ll be in sec 141 Sunday to pay my respects and watch our team Kick A##!

    JUST WIN BABY!

    Go RAIDERS!

  176. JB Says:

    mizza Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    priest – i feel it too.
    ************************

    It’s mainly us old geezers who really understand. We were here for the Great teams – the really good old days. I started with the Raiders in 66, I think. Might have been 65. We were fortunate enough to see AD in his oprime, when he was making all this history. The newer kids on here have only known the bad and unsuccessful days. I can really feel for them. But, we were there; we saw it; we lived it; we continue to support our one & only favorite team – Da Raidahs…

    That last part was in honor of Coach Al Davis. I’ll be there Sunday. Wouldn’t miss this historical event.

  177. Chris in NY Says:

    Watching the replay of the Raiders over Texans game I was grabbed by the sound of the Raiders fans in attendance. Lot of cheers when Oakland made a big play.

  178. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    TJ, when they believe in themselves, they will take off. Print it! They are getting closer every game, when they get there, the swagger will return. We created it, no other team has mastered it. We have it down, we created it, it’s returning to Oakland, where it deseridly belongs. Screw leaving or sharing other stadiums, when this team is firing on all cylinders, they will build it, have patience.

  179. Thec07 Says:

    McClain 100% sacked up after his injury where number 74 dives at his legs while he is engaged with a WR…

    McClain stayed and sacked straight up…

    Great Job Rolando…

  180. Chris in NY Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
    Chris if they start to live up to their potential this team will make a run sometime during this season it may only happen late but I’m telling ya’ they’re going to go on a 4-6 game win streak when teams are just floored by their speed and quickness. And overwhelmed by their power in the front7.

    ————————–

    Well put. That’s exactly what I’m thinking.

  181. Thec07 Says:

    Holding penalty on carly was straight up bull schit…
    dumb zebra was in no postion to even see what carly was doing… fckin liar…

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  183. EMRaiders Says:

    Oh, I just went back a few posts and saw people already claimed the “11th man” being Al on that play. A minute too late, a dollar too short I guess…lol

    The game should be named after Al, call it “The Davis Game” or “The AL Game”.

    “The 11th man” would apply too because of that last play. everyone would know what you are talking about and who the 11th man was.

    truly a game for the decades…

  184. Thec07 Says:

    DHB is going to be a load to handle going forward…His confidence is off the charts right now…

    We would be better served to pair him with DMO and HAG on the outside, with JFORD slotted…

    Like DMAC as a WR though, been waiting to see that for a few years now…

    I predicted a top 5 O…We are a little behind schdule however, when the end of the year comes when they talk about explosions, and explosive plays they will have to mention the NATION…

  185. Thec07 Says:

    No way in hell the zegra could have seen what carly was doing…DT had his back to the zebra, zebra would have had to been on the side…The DT made a little flalling suttle motion, and the zebra assumed holding…total 100% bull schit…

  186. Chris in NY Says:

    And Houston is no slouch. Houston was my pick to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl this year. Their only other loss was at New Orleans in a game they led most of the way and easily could’ve won.

  187. Thec07 Says:

    For those of you slamming DVD need to go watch fim…He had a crucial play on 3rd and 7 where he motions for Branch to realing himself, putting branch in position to make the play….Nice call by the rook…

  188. Chris in NY Says:

    Just saw that Tebow “there’s only one person who carries the ball right now!” clip (from last year).

    What a goofball.

  189. Thec07 Says:

    Much respect to McCLain…. was a huge factor on the blitz in the first half…Even after his injury he had a batted ball in the first half….

    Way to sack up rolando…Hope you are not to injuried we will need you going forward….

  190. CDERaider Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:

    I agree totally. Fugg sharing a stadium with you know who and in Santa Clara?? Are you F*ing kidding me??? We don’t need a new stadium. I’m tired of hearing that crap. We need championships! – We need to be back on top again destroying the AFC West! We need to get back to bringing the swag that Al invented and backing it up with hitting mufuggers in the the neck week in and week out. Oakland Coliseum is part of that mystique and get back to those ways and Oakland will get a new stadium in due time at the same location. Al will roll over in his grave if they do any deal with the Niners. The Raiders don’t need to share a stadium with anybody.

    Go RAIDERS!

    ————————–

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    TJ, when they believe in themselves, they will take off. Print it! They are getting closer every game, when they get there, the swagger will return. We created it, no other team has mastered it. We have it down, we created it, it’s returning to Oakland, where it deseridly belongs. Screw leaving or sharing other stadiums, when this team is firing on all cylinders, they will build it, have patience.

    ——————————–

  191. Chris in NY Says:

    And don’t sleep on Louis Murphy. I sense that people want to relegate him to the background because the guys who have been out there have been real promising and there are only so many snaps and so many balls to go around.

    But Louis Murphy was our best WR the last couple of years and is only entering his 3rd season as well. He may very well be our No. 1 WR when the dust clears. Not saying he will be, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case.

  192. Thec07 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
    This could be an Epic year there is something about this team that says special and I’m talking about the way they go about their business. It’s just starting to come together in ways we haven’t seen since the last SB year.

    DMC DHB Huff DVD Chekwa WizII Ford Routt McClain LHouston Reece Branch MM34 Veldheer Moore TJ Barksdale Bush Ausberry Gordon Jano. All players when you mention them have Big Al written all over them.

    Then the classic FA pickups and trades the mark his career Seymour Cartwright Camp Boss Moss Wimbley Hagan all typify who he was as a football man going about the business of biulding a team.

    PS I know some of you doubt Terrelle Pryor but who else would take that chance but Mr D.? many of those players I named people laughed when he drafted and traded for them or picked them up. But that’s how he biult teams great teams of the past thaat is how he did it. While they were laughing he just gave one command “just Win baby” and they did. Soon the laughter stopped…
    +++++++=

    100% truth

  193. wasbanned Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Watching the replay of the Raiders over Texans game I was grabbed by the sound of the Raiders fans in attendance. Lot of cheers when Oakland made a big play.
    ….

    There were a bunch of us there that day. Always a great Nation turnout in Houston.

  194. Thec07 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
    And don’t sleep on Louis Murphy. I sense that people want to relegate him to the background because the guys who have been out there have been real promising and there are only so many snaps and so many balls to go around.

    But Louis Murphy was our best WR the last couple of years and is only entering his 3rd season as well. He may very well be our No. 1 WR when the dust clears. Not saying he will be, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case.

    ++++++++

    Man i am not sleeping on non of these cats…We should have the best WR corp in the NFL by years end…

  195. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    The injuries are a result of Raider football, we are hitting them harder, punishing them at the lines, it will take some victims, but that is us. We don’t play sore anymore, Hue, make that change!

  196. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    out guys, up at 5am, eastern, RAIDER ON, CODE BLACK 2011!

  197. EMRaiders Says:

    Could we be going with 4 WRs sets with Dmac in the back? DHB FORD on the left MOORE HAGAN/MURPHY on the right. Talk about speed. As long as the Oline keeps playing well, this could be a killer set. Someone will be open for sure!

  198. Mum-O-killowe Says:

    What’s the word on Gruden, and Bruce Allen?

    I read a couple days ago someone mentioned Mike Lame-Bardi would make a good GM… Ha ha ha ha ha just shooooooot yourself!

  199. SlvrBlkLoco Says:

    Haters Going To Hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    The Raiders only had 10 players on the field on the last play vs Hou.

  200. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I hadn’t been planning on going to the game Sunday, but I really want to be part of the tribute for Al, so I got a ticket.

  201. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I notice Cleavland rate pretty high in the defensive stats, but then they have played Cinn, Ind, and Miami. Not really the best offensive teams in The NFL.

  202. beach Says:

    KTVU has Raymond Chester and other talking about Al Davis now.

  203. HueKnows Says:

    Does anybody got a link to the Michael Bush interview with that douche Rome today?

  204. HueKnows Says:

    SlvrBlkLoco Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    Haters Going To Hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    The Raiders only had 10 players on the field on the last play vs Hou.
    ******************************************
    Al was playing cover 2

  205. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Amazing. I had to go back and watch that last play again to see if there really was only ten players. All of the recievers were covered. The D line got preasure and flushed the qb out of the pocket. When it looked like he might be able to run for it Branch came up and was in possetion to make the tackle and then forced him to throw the ball or get sacked, and Huff stepped in front of the pass. The play was beautifully defended.

  206. Tjbwall Says:

    Did anyone who watched MNF salivate at the way Cutler moved in the pocket and could throw a nice ball DOWNFIELD

    Omgosh

  207. Chris in NY Says:

    The Raiders should really blow Cleveland’s doors out. Come out motivated, pumped up by the home crowd and the momentum they’ve got going but not overconfident and …

    Raiders 35, Browns 3

  208. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Who was that special teams player we lost in the boating accident. Remember the game where the Seagull flew down the field with the kick cover team. His family was sure it was him. The seagull did kind of shy away from contact though and did not stick it’s beak in the to break up the wedge.

  209. ghostraiders Says:

    Cutler would look nice in silver n black. …that is if Campbell and Pryor don’t work out… ” obviously “..

  210. Chris in NY Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    Did anyone who watched MNF salivate at the way Cutler moved in the pocket and could throw a nice ball DOWNFIELD

    Omgosh

    —————-

    I was salivating over how weak that Bears offensive line look and the thought of the destruction our defensive line should inflict in Chi-town later this season.

  211. Chris in NY Says:

    Marquis Cooper.

  212. hwnrdr Says:

    Koolaid…Marquis Cooper!

  213. ghostraiders Says:

    Chris…. I hope these guys don’t play down to the competition. .. .. it really should be a blowout… but ill settle for a win!! Cleveland is 2-2.. and comming off a bye!!… its going to be a good game.. but hopefully a blowout..

  214. hwnrdr Says:

    And I loved that pigeon! I think his mom was in attendance that day and she said that she believed that was him in spirit!

  215. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Thanks

  216. ghostraiders Says:

    Marquis Cooper. .. very sad stuff..

  217. raiderkoolaid Says:

    That’s right, it was a pigeon. I was thinking seagull. Well it still didn’t stick it’s beak in there to break up the wedge. lol

  218. HueKnows Says:

    I named my fish Marquis back then and the f’er is still around.

  219. ghostraiders Says:

    I predict Raiders 31… Cleveland 13…. I hope its an easy game..but the guys need to bring it… no let Downs… no turnovers. … we win!!

  220. ghostraiders Says:

    Cutler 28 for 38…. and running for his life!! That’s. One Tough S.O.B!! … strong arm…. knocked his ass down. . And the Guy just kept getting back up!! Wish we had him….

  221. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Raiders 30 Cleveland 17

  222. Tjbwall Says:

    ghost we can all wish right

  223. ghostraiders Says:

    I think your score Might be closer than mine..koolaid.. hope Its not!!

  224. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah that would have been funny if the pigeon caused the runner to fall down!

  225. raiderkoolaid Says:

    It’s guess work. I just figure that our offense is good enough to get 30 points, especially with the emotion of it being a special tribute day, and I think our defense will dominate at times, but still has enough flaws to keep it from holding an opponent to a really low total.

  226. r8dercain Says:

    Raiders 42 browns 10

  227. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I hope your score is closer Ghost

  228. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Good night everone. I have to get up for work at 4:30AM

  229. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup, I hear ya….Good Night Nation!

  230. ghostraiders Says:

    Tjb.. I know the Raiders can beat the browns. .. and beat them good.. problem is they really spent themselves emotionally last week… colt McCoy is not aback qb. . I can’t remember having an easy time beating that team.. its always tough!!

  231. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tjbwall Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Did anyone who watched MNF salivate at the way Cutler moved in the pocket and could throw a nice ball DOWNFIELD

    Omgosh

    ………..

    What about the collective BJ the media’s giving Tebow and the Broncos right now?

    I was watching Cam’s highlights today, and just imagining the props he would get if he were Tebow. He’s amazing. Just flat out amazing. Tebow can throw for 120 yards and 5 interceptions in their next game, and if he has so much as one good play, they’ll loop it on ESPN for 24 hours straight.

  232. Sullivan44 Says:

    New era in Denver, with Tebow.

    New era in Oakland, the post-Davis, Hue Jackson era. Are we witnessing the beginning of an epic, decade long rivalry?

  233. Tjbwall Says:

    Ghostraiders Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
    Tjb.. I know the Raiders can beat the browns. .. and beat them good.. problem is they really spent themselves emotionally last week… colt McCoy is not aback qb. . I can’t remember having an easy time beating that team.. its always tough!!
    ================================================

    Naww I was talking about when you said “I wish we had him”

    I do too haha

  234. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    raiderkoolaid Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    That’s right, it was a pigeon. I was thinking seagull. Well it still didn’t stick it’s beak in there to break up the wedge. lol
    —————-
    My FB avatar is the pigeon cropped from the video tape with the Raids shield on its chest. Nobody knows wtf its about.

  235. Tjbwall Says:

    Sullivan44,

    Haha i hear ya all this Tebow talk and the Raiders don’t get a fade of fame for actually winning, or Cam for putting out highlight after highlight

    Idk I actually like Tebow tho….more than i can say about our quarterback

  236. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    MR stop talking about Tebow, its all about a colt this weak. Your Tebow mancrush can wait until weak nine, thank you.

  237. r8dercain Says:

    These ate the games that used to scare me. A team were supposed to beat an somehow we’d play down to the competition an lose or damn near lose. I think we have turned the corner on that kind of play. An will prove it the next 3 games. With teams coming in that we should be. We will see where were at by the end of this three game homestand.

    Go Raiders!!!!

  238. Sullivan44 Says:

    Stage already being set. Tebow the pretty boy and his Broncos, Hue Jackson’s Raiders. Your AFC west rivalry this decade.

  239. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    I am more suprised in the fact Colt Macoy has just shy of 1000 yds passing in four games.

  240. Tjbwall Says:

    Whats A Drexl? Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
    I am more suprised in the fact Colt Macoy has just shy of 1000 yds passing in four games.
    ===============================================

    The guy is averaging 5.7 yards per pass though
    ouch

  241. r8dercain Says:

    IMO I think we will win the next 4 games.

    We will win the next 4

    Print that!!!

  242. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    I was being sarcastic, it doesn’t come through so well in type.

    He should be less of a threat than Sanjez, then Brady, then the dude in Buff, then the wonder boy in Texas.

  243. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    meant buff before NY.

    clearing it up for the purists, Llmfao.

  244. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    so it would go Buffalo dude, Snatches, Brady, Wonderboy in Texas, and now a 78% qbr 2nd year player. Quite the let down in talent.

  245. Tjbwall Says:

    Whats A Drexl?,

    ohh aiiite

    Key word “should be”
    with the Browns you never know what you gunna get

  246. No Mas Diamante Says:

    RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16

  247. r8dercain Says:

    Thus will be a beat down fellas!!!

    Print That!!

  248. r8dercain Says:

    Look for DMAC to get 150+ yards rushing
    jcamp 300yds passing.

    A beatdown in the Town

  249. No Mas Diamante Says:

    O line needs to form a better pocket. Seems carlile’s side always breaks down.

  250. Tjbwall Says:

    Soo we beat a couple teams we were not supposed to beat…then comes the Browns

    Raiders do their job
    Raiders 34 Browns 17

  251. djohnnyg Says:

    Final score: 25-20
    2+5+2+0= 9

    We are in our 9th year since going to Super Bowl.

    33 is Tyvon Branch, who without his presence on that play, we lose.

    3 times 3 = 9

    33 – 9 = 24

    24 is Michael Huff’s number who made winning interception.

    What does it all mean?

    Who knows? Guess i’m bored.

  252. Tjbwall Says:

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    O line needs to form a better pocket. Seems carlile’s side always breaks down.
    ==============================================

    Satele & CC are the only occasional weak links for this O-Line

    When Satele went out Wiz2.0 at C & Barksdale./Campbell rotated at LG DMC broke off like 3 of his best runs

    I don’t think Hue changes the o-line yet at this point because of this 1 game tho, but next year definately

  253. r8dercain Says:

    It was uncharacteristic for Carlisle to get those penalties. Look for that to be cleaned up this week.

  254. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # r8dercain Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    It was uncharacteristic for Carlisle to get those penalties. Look for that to be cleaned up this week.
    ============================================

    Sometimes it has more to do with an officiating crew than the player.

  255. Otis60 Says:

    In defense of Carlisle, his problems were against the Texans who are not slouches when it comes defense.

  256. Otis60 Says:

    If DMAC’s 41 yard run stands, he has a good game statistically. He busted off some nice runs in the 4th. He put metal to the pedal when it counted. Mario Williams out for the season could be the end of the Texans season.

  257. Dhidee99 Says:

    I love the Raiders

  258. djohnnyg Says:

    U guys see Tommy Kelly just lambasting that Texan player in the end zone after the int.?

    That was cool.

  259. Violent Hands Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    How did the refs try to give it to them?

    I saw Routt blatantly grab a guy around the waist on a 3rd down pass, with a ref 10 feet away immediately throwing the flag……only for it to be called off and forcing a punt.

    Also saw the refs go to the replay booth on the last drive, and even though they found the Raiders guilty of a penalty, it actually benefitted us, as they moved them back 7 yards further from the sack on the play (those 7 yards saved a game-winning TD).

    Only iffy call was the Carlisle hold, I thought. The block in the back that was picked up would have moved them back 10 yards, from like the 30 to the 20 (whup-t-do).

    You guys crack me up with these conspiracy theories.
    ===============
    Oh so you missed the rugby tackle on #66 next play after his clip,you missed #12 getting slammed way outa bounds

  260. djohnnyg Says:

    What was cool to see was the Raiders seeming to be the aggressor out there. Houston may have had the stats but to come in there in a very hostile environment, against a team that many people feel to be one of the AFC’s elite, who were on a hot streak to boot, and beat them on the road like that?

    Good.

  261. djohnnyg Says:

    When was the last time we won a non-divisional conference road game?

    Was it the Gradkowski game in Pittsburgh?

    I wanna say it hasn’t happened much.

  262. djohnnyg Says:

    Violent Hands,

    There are 12 letters in your name. If u take 12 and add 82 (Al Davis’s age when he passed), you have 94.

    94 is Jarvis Moss’s number and is the last player Al Davis talked with personally.

    Jarvis Moss was not alive when the “Immaculate Deception” occured.

    Still don’t believe in conspiracy theories?

  263. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    With the Raiders committing an NFL-high 50 penalties, the Browns must make a concerted effort to minimize drawing yellow flags.
    One factor that could be particularly influential to the outcome of Sunday’s game between the Browns and Raiders is discipline.

    Both clubs have had their issues with penalties, although the Raiders have done much more in the way of self-destruction. They’re the most penalized team in the NFL, adding another eleven to push their total to 50 (nearly double what the Browns have) with Sunday’s victory at Houston.

    On top of that, the Raiders have had a knack for drawing yellow flags at the least opportune moments. They repeatedly find ways to kill offensive drives and make things more difficult for their own defense by extending opponents’ drives.

    That makes it imperative on the Browns, who had eleven penalties in their season-opening loss against Cincinnati and eight in their Week 3 win against Miami, to play as clean a game as they have all season. Doing so would figure to give them an edge they will absolutely need to have success in a difficult place to play, the Black Hole.

    The Browns should have the chance for some success through the air. The Raiders, who rank 29th in the league against the pass, have been without a true shutdown cornerback since losing Nnamdi Asomugha to free agency. Nevertheless, they prefer to play man-to-man coverage, and, against pass-happy teams, their corners tend to wear down by the fourth quarter.

    If ever there was a game when the Browns directed the bulk of their passing game in the direction of their wide receivers – and especially new starter Greg Little – this should be it.

    For the most part, the Raiders’ passing game has performed at a much higher level than anticipated. Until last Sunday’s 25-20 win against the Texans, quarterback Jason Campbell had been enjoying superb pass protection. Through the first four games, the Raiders had allowed only two sacks. But last Sunday, they gave up three sacks against the Texans’ blitz-happy defense.

    The Raiders’ general offensive plan is to keep as few people in as possible to protect Campbell, so that he has the maximum number of receivers running routes.

    The Raiders have the NFL’s second-ranked running game, led by the explosive and powerful Darren McFadden. He will be a load for the Browns’ defense, which ranks 25th in the league against run. The Raiders also have a nice complement for McFadden in Michael Bush, who they use effectively in short-yardage and goal-line situations.

    The Raiders will concentrate on setting up the pass with a smash-mouth running game that they also intend to use to control the clock and keep the Browns from finding any of that elusive spark in their passing attack.

    >>Be sure to tune in Monday through Friday, 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. ET, for “Cleveland

    I went to the Browns web site and you see that they’re really into football. They were unbeatable in the 50ths when they had the great Jim Brown and Otto Graham. They have a rich history, but nothing over the past 30 years.

    Raiders 34 – Browns 10

  264. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Cleveland has the fourth ranked O-line. Raids need the D-line to come to play.

    Wimbley you need to return to last years production. Did you gain to much weight Cam? Every pass rush same thing, right arm upper cut rip for leverage, then nothing, the tackles are riding you like a kids pony, whipping your ass the whole way.

    RoMac you looked ridiculous on the play action byte, that burned you guys, and kept a scoring drive going, but I then witnessed all world MLB B. Urlacher later that night fall for some thing similar multiple times last night, thus checking any negativity to you Ro, and hope you blast some dudes asap.

  265. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Ya, on the Browns web site (from post #263) they feel that Greg Little, their number one receiver is going to cause us big damage, first with short quick slants and them with deep paterns in the 4th quarters when they claims are defenders are tired.

    I think they’re delusional … we’ll beat them down big time. At home, after Al’s death, sold out stadium and an opportunity to go 6 – 2 by winning the next three games (ALL AT HOME). After we beat the Browns, the next two home games are against the Chiefs and then the donkeys…big opportunity for us. Also, we get the by-week before the denver game which gives us a chance to heal and two weeks to prepare for denver.
    Can’t get any better than that and it all starts this Sunday.

  266. Violent Hands Says:

    All i want is a fair call ,no Raider can slam a guy outa-bounds or rugby tackle o/lineman…the even changed ko to stop #12

  267. djohnnyg Says:

    One thing that worries me though is the Raiders have been playing down to their competition last few years.

  268. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    What’s the word on Rolando? Is he out for the Cleveland game. Now, Ricky Brown looks better but he’s injured to. Wow, we’re desperate now. Can we pickup someone before the trade deadline? But who? Where’s Kirk Morrison when we need him. Oh, he’s in Buffalo.

  269. [BREAKING NEWS] Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d822ee148/Remembering-Al-Davis?continuous=true

  270. djohnnyg Says:

    I’ll be just as nervous about Cleveland as I am every game.

  271. [BREAKING NEWS] Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d822eeb52/Al-Davis-The-AFL-years

  272. [BREAKING NEWS] Says:

    djohnnyg Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
    I’ll be just as nervous about Cleveland as I am every game.
    ——————————————-
    No need to be. Oakland will be playing with fire streaming outta their asses, and cleveland will be reduced and on their knees begging for mercy.

  273. BigTed707 Says:

    “The Al Davis Game” is replaying now on NFLN

  274. lefty12 Says:

    I hope the coaches and the players don’t start overlooking and taking games for granted as some on here seem to be doing.This is the NFL and on any given Sunday…….

  275. lefty12 Says:

    It’s too bad they didn’t use the radio(Papa) audio for the replay.

  276. JB Says:

    Hagar the Horrible Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    What’s the word on Rolando? Is he out for the Cleveland game. Now, Ricky Brown looks better but he’s injured to. Wow, we’re desperate now. Can we pickup someone before the trade deadline? But who? Where’s Kirk Morrison when we need him. Oh, he’s in Buffalo.
    *******************

    Ricky Brown was put on IR so he’s gone for the season. We are short on LB’s. That’s probably why they are looking at 2 LB’s right now.

  277. Try Some Reality Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
    I hope the coaches and the players don’t start overlooking and taking games for granted as some on here seem to be doing.This is the NFL and on any given Sunday…….

    ====================

    Agreed. Folks seem to think we’ll roll over the Brownies. This one has let down written all over it. If we do roll over them though, I will be fully convinced of Hue’s abilities. This is the type of game Raiders teams of the past would slip on.

  278. lefty12 Says:

    We could always bring back Sam Williams.He at least knows the system and could fill in on ST.I’m actually surprised we don’t have any LB on the practice squad given the fact we have 2 on IR.

  279. rob_raider Says:

    the tribute and emotion this sunday will do one of 2 things. either the players will feed off it and trounce the browns, starting what could be a real jump from this team. or it could actually serve as a distraction and cause them to lose focus, setting them for being upset, and ruining a golden opportunity.

    i believe the raiders will thrive and crush the browns 38-6. i think everything comes together this sunday. 150+ for dmc. 100+ for dhb. a return td for ford. 6 sacks for the defense.

  280. Try Some Reality Says:

    Test

  281. rob_raider Says:

    j leman will likely be called up and the guys that were working out could be on the practice squad.

  282. Try Some Reality Says:

    Final call of the game from Greg Papa, for those of you looking for it, like I was:

    raiderfans*net forum oakland-raiders-forum-message-board 181340-video-greg-papa-final-play-call-week-5-vrs-texans*html

    Replace the spaces with slashes and asterisks with periods. Not letting me post the link any other way

  283. Try Some Reality Says:

    And, yes, we only had 10 players on the field. Our strong safety makes this play happen. Was it Branch out there? Can’t tell from video, and when I was watching live, I was too dam nervous.

  284. lefty12 Says:

    TSR-yes,it was Branch who forced the play.It’s funny that the talking heads said he should have run it in.Branch had him dead to right,he wouldn’t have come close to making it.

  285. Violent Hands Says:

    Exactly my thought after TK choke comment

  286. Try Some Reality Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
    TSR-yes,it was Branch who forced the play.It’s funny that the talking heads said he should have run it in.Branch had him dead to right,he wouldn’t have come close to making it.

    ======================

    Heads up their azzes as usual. He would’ve gotten laid out by Branch. He came in like a man possessed.

  287. lefty12 Says:

    Could it be TKs comments were more about the whole game than just the last play?There was a point in the game where their QB had a streak of something like 4 for 16 in the passing dept.-missing open receivers.

  288. rob_raider Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
    Final call of the game from Greg Papa, for those of you looking for it, like I was:

    raiderfans*net forum oakland-raiders-forum-message-board 181340-video-greg-papa-final-play-call-week-5-vrs-texans*html

    Replace the spaces with slashes and asterisks with periods. Not letting me post the link any other way

    *******************

    there are some spaces in your post i don’t know what to do with so i can’t get there.

  289. Try Some Reality Says:

    Now watching the Comcast Greg Papa interview from Saturday, 10/8, on the topic of Davis’ death. This hit Greg hard.

    Good of him to honor Davis like he did. He’s right. The younger crowd especially might be just looking at the last 8 years when Davis is so much more than that. SO much more.

    Also, interesting note that Papa thinks Davis’ health decline took a sharp dive after the SuperBowl loss.

  290. lefty12 Says:

    TSR,one of them was Deion.He probably thought he would have made it since he knew he probably couldn’t have made the tackle.lol

  291. Try Some Reality Says:

    Rob – Google “greg papa final call week 5″. The very first result has the video.

  292. Try Some Reality Says:

    lol. So true, Lefty.

  293. rob_raider Says:

    got it. thanks.

  294. lefty12 Says:

    Can’t remember who it was,but someone mentioned Papa was real close to Al,that they were good friends.

  295. Try Some Reality Says:

    Papa says they became close after Bruce Allen left. He said he spent many hours with Davis while he was writing his book. He wondered if the Davis family would publish it now.

  296. Try Some Reality Says:

    I think Davis was very sincere, caring, and personal with those that had contact with him. Just my impression from all the stories I’ve read or heard over the past few days. What amazes me is the research he did on just about everyone he came in contact with.

  297. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Lefty12…post 278:

    Sam Williams was on scholarship for many years, but at least he knows the system and he was a backup at the MLB spot. He might be better than some of the rookies they’re looking at that haven’t even started a game.

  298. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Rob Raider….love your enthusaism…hope the players catch it. A big win will go a long way.

  299. lefty12 Says:

    It seems he was one of those guys who if he was your friend,you couldn’t have a better one,but as Madden said he wasn’t for everyone.His knowing so much about everyone he came in contact with is pretty amazing.

  300. Try Some Reality Says:

    Rob_raider Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
    the tribute and emotion this sunday will do one of 2 things. either the players will feed off it and trounce the browns, starting what could be a real jump from this team. or it could actually serve as a distraction and cause them to lose focus, setting them for being upset, and ruining a golden opportunity.

    i believe the raiders will thrive and crush the browns 38-6. i think everything comes together this sunday. 150+ for dmc. 100+ for dhb. a return td for ford. 6 sacks for the defense.

    ==============

    Hope you’re right about this, Rob. It should be quite an emotional day for the coliseum. This may be one of those games that folks attending will remember forever.

  301. rob_raider Says:

    in his press conference monday, hue mentioned the trade deadline. probably wouldn’t have mentioned it if there wasn’t something going on. we need a LB, and pryor will have to take a spot next week.

    they have too many wr’s. greg papa thinks murphy could be traded to the 49ers.

    they have too many te’s. myers could be dealt.

    bush is a possibility. he really hasn’t got that many carries, although he has been useful. taiwan waiting in the wings.

    wimbley? doubtful w/ his contract. but hasn’t done much so far.

    too many db’s. parker likely headed to practice squad for pryor.

  302. lefty12 Says:

    Hagar-I don’t call it scholarship.He was a really productive ST player all those years,something fans often overlook.He was also an adequate back-up player who could fill in when needed.Teams need those kind of players.

  303. lefty12 Says:

    Rob,Tonga is more likely headed back to the practice squad if Reese or Gordon can play.Until our other DBs get healthy,we need all the help we can get back there.Remember,DBs are good ST guys,while I don’t think Tonga is.

  304. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Try Some Reality Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Rob – Google “greg papa final call week 5″. The very first result has the video.
    ====================
    I have always appreciated G Papa, calling the game, or running the CSN shows he associates with.

    He would never let the Bay area anti-A Davis media get on a roll if when he was leading the show. Love him for it.

  305. BigTed707 Says:

    AL D on 3!

    1..2..3…!

  306. qodrn Says:

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers

    [BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
    860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
    909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
    alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
    fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
    ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
    Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
    No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
    qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
    r8eray 38-17 Raiders
    raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
    Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
    rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
    Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
    Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17

  307. qodrn Says:

    For Sunday’s game, how about the Heavenly Interception?

  308. StayinBlack Says:

    Hell Yea Big Ted…By the way I have never seen Tommy Kelly be so damn disruptive in a game!!

  309. qodrn Says:

    Anyone know what it is that the Brown’s are named after?

  310. StayinBlack Says:

    Raiders 37 Browns 13

  311. BigTed707 Says:

    rob_raider Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    in his press conference monday, hue mentioned the trade deadline. probably wouldn’t have mentioned it if there wasn’t something going on. we need a LB, and pryor will have to take a spot next week.

    wimbley? doubtful w/ his contract. but hasn’t done much so far.

    ***************************
    Why suggest trading a LB for a LB? We need all the depth we can get.

    If we do get a LB, it would probably be a backup/ST guy at best – so I hope ROMac gets healthy – cuz’ we ain’t gettin’ anything better anytime soon.

    Cut Ausberry, Gordon or Meyers to make room for a Backup LB.

    Too bad we let T.Howard go, and Goethel got injured. We should probably just move Boyd to reserve LB, drop Tonga back down to make room for Pryor when Reece and Gordon are healthy and roll with what we got.

  312. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    The Al Davis game.

  313. BigTed707 Says:

    Q, Sullivan wasn’t the closest pick week 4 – alex7 was.

    I just think MR is a doosh for claiming pick superiority when he has none.

    If MR is indeed both Sulli – and Alex7 – then he should have to admit it if he wants bragging rights.

  314. BigTed707 Says:

    # qodrn Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 12:44 am

    Anyone know what it is that the Brown’s are named after?

    ****************

    DOOK!

  315. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    MR=Sull=Alex7

    I thought this was common knowledge. Get ovah it.

  316. Seymour Bush Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    I see a team that could make a special run this season.
    ===================================================

    Chris I think your breakdown was excellent. But let’s not go crazy. I got two words for the Oakland Raiders right now: Cleve-land.

  317. BigTed707 Says:

    # Whats a Drexl? Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    The Al Davis game.

    *******************

    I already coined it, see post 273.

  318. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    there are a hand full of others, but I lose track.

  319. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    HEH nice one Ted!! That was all I could think of as it was going down, and how they better close it out.

  320. BigTed707 Says:

    True, any team can win on any given Sunday, but there is a reason Oakland is -5.5 at home.

    The Raiders are never favorites.

    That point spread tells me the Raiders should win this game by at least 3 points – and that is assuming CLE beats the spread.

  321. lefty12 Says:

    Sully will win the prediction game.I doubt we go undefeated the rest of the season,and he will pick against the Raiders whenever we have a tough game while the rest will pick the Raiders out of loyalty.

  322. Seymour Bush Says:

    qodrn Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 12:44 am

    Anyone know what it is that the Brown’s are named after?
    =================================================

    Come on. the Cleveland Browns are named after their owner: Paul Brown. Brown was one of the essential stalwart football guys including Curly Lambeau and George Halas. Brown sold his Cleveland franchise and his son Mike runs the Cincinnatti Bungholes. Unfortunately, Mike does not have the same passion for winning as Paul did. Just ask Carson Palmer. When asked after ANOTHER 4-11 season about his team, Mike Brown said, “It was a great year. I made $24 million.”

    As I posted a few days ago, what just transpired was the end of LAST of the great FOOTBALL MEN. Men who made their life the game of football. You will NEVER EVER see that AGAIN. To witness it was quite astounding. Unfortunately, it went over almost everyones head.

  323. lefty12 Says:

    Ted,the reason the Raiders haven’t been favored lately is because we didn’t deserve to be favored.That is changing and we will be favored more often-probably the next 3 games for sure.

  324. lefty12 Says:

    Well, nite all and thanks for the conversation-no jerks,no clowns-very enjoyable.

  325. BigTed707 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Ted,the reason the Raiders haven’t been favored lately is because we didn’t deserve to be favored.That is changing and we will be favored more often-probably the next 3 games for sure.

    *******************

    I understand that. I’m just sayin’ the Raiders are favored because they match up well against their opponents.

    At least that’s what money thinks…

  326. BigTed707 Says:

    We beat Houston on a bad day.

    I hope we have a good day when CLE comes to town!

  327. BigTed707 Says:

    As I posted a few days ago, what just transpired was the end of LAST of the great FOOTBALL MEN. Men who made their life the game of football. You will NEVER EVER see that AGAIN. To witness it was quite astounding. Unfortunately, it went over almost everyones head.

    ****************

    It only went over the heads of those outside the Nation – Media types and fans of other teams dismissing it as a simple narrative.

    Those of us in the Nation – those of us grown men who shed tears for the loss – the ex-players, ex-coaches, local journalists, and ticket-toting fans of the Oakland Raiders – It didn’t go over our heads, and that will never diminish.

    For this fan – the NFL experience will never be the same again.

  328. neilb Says:

    LMN…..

    Congratulations,see you in Poland.

  329. BigTed707 Says:

    # neilb Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 2:04 am

    LMN…..

    Congratulations,see you in Poland.

    ************************
    “Postcards from a Limey”

  330. edward teach Says:

    It only went over the heads of those outside the Nation – Media types and fans of other teams dismissing it as a simple narrative.

    Those of us in the Nation – those of us grown men who shed tears for the loss – the ex-players, ex-coaches, local journalists, and ticket-toting fans of the Oakland Raiders – It didn’t go over our heads, and that will never diminish.

    For this fan – the NFL experience will never be the same again.

    ********************************************************

    Great post. Couldn’t agree more.

  331. r8dercain Says:

    These ate the games that used to scare me. A team were supposed to beat an somehow we’d play down to the competition an lose or damn near lose. I think we have turned the corner on that kind of play. An will prove it the next 3 games. With teams coming in that we should be. We will see where were at by the end of this three game homestand.

    Go Raiders!!!

    Raiders 42 Browns 10

  332. r8eray Says:

    “Good mornin’,

    Good mornin’!

    We’ve talked the whole night through,

    Good mornin’

    Good mornin’ to you.

    Good mornin’, good mornin’!

    It’s great to stay up late,

    Good mornin’, good mornin’ to you!!!!!”

    ;)

  333. r8eray Says:

    On final play, Raiders had 10 men on the field

    Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2011, 9:28 PM EDT

    Reuters
    The day after Raiders owner Al Davis died, his team clinched a victory over the Texans by thwarting the Texans from the doorstep of the end zone on the final play of the game, as safety Michael Huff intercepted Houston quarterback Matt Schaub in the end zone.

    In what was a fitting, albeit surely unintentional, missing-man formation tribute to Mr. Davis, the Raiders managed to keep the Texans from scoring with only 10 players on the field.

    A reader tipped us off to the intriguing glitch earlier today, and we’ve pulled up the video of the game from the excellent Game Rewind service at NFL.com. It’s true — the Raiders had only 10 men on the field.

    And so just when it looked like a moment couldn’t have gotten any more perfect, it has.

    Sounds to me like Florio is officially on the bandwagon!

  334. GG Says:

    Wonder if they’ll experiment with Mike Mitchell at LB. Not sure if he can handle MLB, making all the calls etc.

  335. raiderkoolaid Says:

    That play should forever be known as “The Missing Man Formation Play.”

  336. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    FRANTZ JOSEPH !!!!

  337. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    HAY HUE JAX…while your checking out linbackers bring back RAIDER undrafted rookie from 2yrs ago FRANTZ JOSEPH!!! the guy is a middlelinebacking beast!!!

  338. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    at that time he didnt fit the speed ratio…but ive been preaching for years we dont need speed in our middle-backer we need a thumper!

  339. neilb Says:

    Limey??

  340. r8eray Says:

    Raiderkoolaid Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 5:12 am
    That play should forever be known as “The Missing Man Formation Play.”

    ——-

    Lol…c’mon, that was a little corny!!

    Why don’t we call it ” The play after Al died we had 10 guys on the field!”

    Lol

    :D

  341. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    everytime i watch our backers get caught in the wash….cant get off of blocks….cant tackle….over-run plays leaving gapeing holes on cut backs, is b/cuz they are speed-backers. not built for point of attack but built to run down guys who just ran by them!!! its time to bring back FRANTZ JOSEPH!! who was allready a RAIDER just was never givin a true chance to show the NATION what he could do.

  342. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    http://youtu.be/1FtgtFZvpzU this is FRANTZ after we let him go.

  343. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    somebody get at Hue Jax to bring him back for a look, he should still be available. he sticks his nose into every play and aint affraid to get his uniform dirty,BRING BACK FRANTZ JOSEPH!

  344. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Frantz Joseph…yeah I remember that guy…can’t watch youtube at work…where is he now?

  345. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    http://youtu.be/uFzk2vucbQ8 THE REASON WE PICKED HIM UP IN THE FISRT PLACE! SOME GUYS CAN NOT BE JUDGED BY SPEED ALONE! SOME GUYS ARE JUST STRAIGHT UP FOOTBALL PLAYERS!

  346. r8eray Says:

    GM Hwnrdr……

    Just read this article about Madden and this what he said about the man

    “Al and I were always close, and we talked a lot about a lot of things,” Madden said on KCBS Radio. “But I think a lot of these things are premature right now. It’s still (about) mourning the death of Al Davis, and he was such a great person to so many people and did so many things.

    “For me, it’s rather harsh just to jump in from death to this … I’m still thinking about … it was just a week ago that I was sitting with Al. And he said to me out of the clear blue, ‘You know Willie Mays?’ And I go, ‘Yeah.’ And he goes, “I’ve lost touch with him. I would like to see him again.’ I was going to try and get a hold of Willie Mays and have him come to a game.”

  347. hwnrdr Says:

    GM Ray…awww, that’s sad! I’m sure Willie will be coming Sunday!

  348. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.DID U GET ANY EXTRA TIX 4 THE GAME B4 THEY RAN OUT HWNRDR ?

  349. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    hwnrdr hes with the Hartford Colonials so hes still available, and like Al allways says “Once a Raider allways Raider” the coaches back then totally slept on this guy. the sad part for me was i wanted him to at least make it to pre-season where he would show them what he can do. never happened.

  350. morilla Says:

    Any season ticket holder willing to sell me the extras they received?

  351. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    and as far as im concerned, “keep me clean mcclain” can still call all the plays….just as-long as its frantz who is roaming the middle!

  352. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WONDER WHY NO OTHER TEAM HAS PICKED JOEPH UP..I LIKE HIM 2.ENERGY AND TOUGH.

  353. hwnrdr Says:

    Thanks Quag…maybe someone should send a message to Hue…heck, anything works right now because who are these 2 guys they looked at???

    Dirt Lot, no…never got the email. Tried calling the ticket office yesterday, was on hold for a while, then the answering service came on and said they were closed…WTF? But…not tripping…

  354. r8eray Says:

    Report: Raiders’ G.M. search begins

    Posted by Mike Florio on October 12, 2011, 8:11 AM EDT

    AP
    Further confirming the fact that Mark Davis will own, but not run, the Raiders, Albert Breer of NFL.com reported Tuesday that the team has commenced the process of looking for a General Manager. The model, as Breer explains it, would operate like the situation in Pittsburgh, where coach Mike Tomlin and G.M. (as of this season) Kevin Colbert work in concert.

    Breer also reports that a football consultant could be hired to help the team through the balance of the 2011 campaign.

    Raiders CEO Amy Trask separately said that she is not ready to talk publicly about the possibility of hiring a G.M. or a director of football operations, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Though the process of running a team during the season is less complex, plans need to be made for free agency in 2012 and the next college draft. Complicating a quick search is the fact that an overabundance of quality candidates aren’t immediately available, since most of the best choices currently have jobs. Also, given that the G.M. would have to work in concert with coach Hue Jackson, the search would need to happen at a time when Jackson has time to be involved with interviews and discussions with the finalists.

    To the extent that the Raiders will gravitate toward folks with ties to the organization, names to watch could include John Madden, Matt Millen (who as Peter King reported over the weekend turned down an offer to work for the team after being fired by the Lions), and Sean Jones (whom we’re told was at one point under consideration for a front-office job).

    Then there’s a topic that was raised during Tuesday’s PFT Live. With the Raiders under Al Davis never using contracts for anyone in the front office, it’s unlikely that Jackson’s contract stipulates that he reported to anyone but Al Davis. The next question becomes whether Jackson’s contract contains language that would require him to report to a G.M. or some other employee who may be hired upon the passing of Al Davis. If not, the coach and the G.M. would have separate straight-line reporting obligations to Mark Davis.

    Eventually, there’s a good chance that Mark Davis will create a hierarchy like the one that Randy Lerner has crafted in Cleveland. Lerner, who inherited the Browns from his father (who also was named Al), has no interest in being a traditional owner. Thus, Lerner has hired Mike Holmgren to serve in that role as to all football matters. Though Jackson’s contract could be an impediment to that structure, it could be the best way for Davis to run the team, if he doesn’t truly want to run the team.

  355. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’ll take Prescott Burgess & Terrelle Pryor over Ron Parker & David Ausberry!

  356. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Rockstar! What happened to Ausberry? I guess after that TD in pre-season, he fell off the chart, huh? I heard Parker was fast though…lol!

  357. r8eray Says:

    Rumor is McClain is not playing this week!!

  358. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders CEO Amy Trask separately said that she is not ready to talk publicly about the possibility of hiring a G.M. or a director of football operations, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

    ***

    Sean Jones & Matt Millen. I’m cool with it

    Hue Jackson reports to them

  359. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rumor is McClain is not playing this week!!

    ***

    ray,

    McClain hasn’t “played” since we drafted him

    re-sign Sam Williams!

  360. RaiderRockstar Says:

    whats up Hwnrdr?

    Ron Parker is fast. Peter Parker is a great photographer

    Unfortunately, neither of them are football players

  361. r8eray Says:

    Trade McClain for Ray Lewis….If I were the Ravens I’d jump on that in a 2nd!!

  362. hwnrdr Says:

    360.RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 6:43 am
    whats up Hwnrdr?

    Ron Parker is fast. Peter Parker is a great photographer

    Unfortunately, neither of them are football players

    LMAO!

  363. hwnrdr Says:

    BTW: Who is Sean Jones?
    Ray, I heard that too! I guess his ankle is worse than actually thought!

  364. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O is probably reading these blog comments and smiling about his boy Frantz Joseph being mentioned.

    Has O presented his birth certificate yet?

    I know O was banned by Jerry, before Jerry got demoted from blog pimp …

    Hey Steve – free RAIDER O !!!

  365. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    nice one rockstar i agree….255lbs of uselessness

  366. r8eray Says:

    Surgery??? Don’t know the severity of his injury….maybe later on this week!

    McClain is on his 2nd year and probably has another 10 years on him.

    Ray has 1 more year(after this season)left in the tank and would be worth it if we were to make the playoffs!!

  367. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Where’s Kirk Morrison when we need him?

    ***

    Hagar the Horrible,

    exactly!

    A bunch of semi-pros are eating crow right now because Capt Kirk is a better player than McClain, less injury proned and costs much less

  368. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BTW: Who is Sean Jones?

    ***

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Jones_(defensive_end)

  369. r8eray Says:

    Was Davis the 11th Raider on the field?
    October, 11, 2011
    OCT 11
    10:35
    PM ET
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    By Bill Williamson
    This story keeps getting more amazing.

    Hue Jackson told his players Sunday after the amazing win over the Houston Texans, that owner Al Davis — who died Saturday at the age of 82 — had something to do with Oakland safety Michael Huff’s interception of Matt Schaub in the end zone on the final play. There was room for Davis on the field.

    The Raiders had 10 men on the field for the final play of the game.

    Thanks to all the readers who reached out to me about this. I watched the film of the play. It sure looks like 10 players on the field to me.

    The story was already amazing. Now, it’s poetically stunning.

    Meanwhile, the Raiders are doing what they can to ensure a full house Sunday for their first home game since Davis’ death.

  370. r8dercain Says:

    Mornin nation

  371. RaiderRockstar Says:

    work to do – later gents!

  372. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I can remember people trying to tell us we needed t.o & ochostinko. Whenever I countered with the assertion that we could do without the diva act from fading stars, the response was about production & stats vs our wr group.

    Well turns out t.o is out of the NFL at least until November, ochostinko has 9 catches 0 touchdowns. Not only do we get better production from our receivers, but could you want a better group of guys? DHB has done nothing but show class & work his butt off & now he is giving us big time production. He could turn out to be not just the most improved player on this team, but perhaps in the entire NFL!

    The comments he made after the Tex game showed that he wants nothing more then to validate the faith that Davis put in him. This is why he acts like a Mac man on the field these days, he has a huge chip on his shoulder, as do many of the players here. I wonder if chris Carter still thinks this draft pick is so funny?

  373. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    im not ready to trade mcclain, i just think he should run with T-ENDS and play outside while a thumper like Frantz plug gaps….mcclain can still keep play calling duties.

  374. Chris in NY Says:

    Tremendous Al Davis memorial piece by Mean Joe Greene:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-greene_remembering_al_davis_100811

  375. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    loving the maturation of DHB!! especially the throw me the da-mn ball they cant stop me attitude he had on sunday.

  376. GoodOle00 Says:

    The Old Maverick and D by Design

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room

    ================

    Pizzes me off but now he’s gone and once his detractors die too maybe his remarkable legacy will finally be appreciated.

  377. r8dercain Says:

    The comments he made after the Tex game showed that he wants nothing more then to validate the faith that Davis put in him. This is why he acts like a Mac man on the field these days, he has a huge chip on his shoulder, as do many of the players here. I wonder if chris Carter still thinks this draft pick is so funny?

    ____________________
    alot of us have ate crow. I’ll be the first to admit I have. But u know what it’s a good thing
    sh*t he just might be better than crabtree in the long run
    just sayin

  378. hwnrdr Says:

    Good article on the D by Design! And I agree with it more at the end…this stupidity has to stop!

  379. JR77 Says:

    I had front and center seats watching the DHB TD and watching him toss that kid to the side that was trying to tackle him was a thing of beauty…I am still not going to drink the DHB kool-aid until season’s end if there is good reason to but Hue needs to call more plays like that for him, especially when there is a smaller db covering him. He is hard to tackle im telling you.

    On another note, I cannot help but dwell in the past watching what megatron is doing out there, it just makes me sick to my stomach having to watch that guy wear a lions uniform and thinking somewhere out there, there is a 330 lb slob drinking purple drank counting his millions he stole from the Nation. That pick set this franchise back at least 3 years maybe more.

  380. La Milicia Negra Says:

    neilb Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 2:04 am

    LMN…..

    Congratulations,see you in Poland.
    _________________________________________________________

    Thanks Mate!!! you should seen Ranaldo, LOL never watched him that frustrated, after the game he looked like someone had ruined his hair-do.. LOL!!

  381. hwnrdr Says:

    Mean Joe Greene…always loved him…wish we had him, but cannot deny those rivalries in the 70’s was probably better than any rivalry out today!
    I laughed at Polomalu’s version of the Mean Joe Coke commercial, but you can’t beat the original!

  382. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Raids have experimented (unsuccessfully) with moving DEs to OLB.

    If McClain can’t go this week, or if he needs to be replaced down the road, the Raids should think out of the box and consider moving a DE to MLB.

    I’m pretty sure most people will find this idea absurd…but I believe Kam Wimbley could make the transition.

    He’s got the foot speed. When he’s been asked to go downfield and cover, I’ve been surprised at how adept he appears in this role.

    His run stuffing ability would be a huge question mark, but I’d like to see this guy get a chance to play again without a hand on the ground.

    Know he played outside for Cleveland, but I believe he could be better suited for the middle.

    One things for sure, he’d be a beast coming on the blitz.

  383. MistaBrown Says:

    Starting with R Seymour, right Hwndr?
    _______

    # hwnrdr Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Good article on the D by Design! And I agree with it more at the end…this stupidity has to stop!

  384. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    R8drcain,

    Crow taste good when it’s about our players being better than advertised. DHB is having a better season than craptree

    DHB 16 catches 263 yards 1 td and a whopping 16.4 yards per catch average

    Craptree 11 Catches 132 yds 0 td 13.1 yards per catch

    Harvin 18 catches 183 yards 0 td 10.2 yards per catch

    DHB started very slowly but I will call my shot now. DHB WILL HAVE A FAR BETTER CAREER THAN CRAPTREE. craptree is injury prone slow & a headcase. DHB is azing fast works hard & is team first. Craptree is the 3rd or 4th option for the niners, DHB is often jc’s first look. Davis was right.

    BOOK IT

  385. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    1-qb-matthew stafford
    2-ot-jason smith
    3-de-tyson jackson
    4-lb-arron curry
    5-qb-mark sanchez
    6-ot-andre smith
    7-wr-darrius hayward bey
    OK did we really do that bad when compared to who went before him?? right now he looks like the steal! anyone of us can throw to megatron?

  386. hwnrdr Says:

    383.MistaBrown Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:21 am
    Starting with R Seymour, right Hwndr?
    _______

    # hwnrdr Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Good article on the D by Design! And I agree with it more at the end…this stupidity has to stop!

    LOL…Good Morning MistaBrown!

  387. MistaBrown Says:

    gm
    :)

  388. hwnrdr Says:

    I remember I got pissed when I found out that we drafter DHB…my friend called me as I was shopping at Target that day…I just wanted to go home and break something…but, I have always supported those who were drafted to wear the Silver and Black! And yes that crow is tasting better and better! And…I am glad we passed on Crabtree…any guy that blows a sigh of relief after knowing that the Raiders passed on you, or any team for that matter can eat a d**k! Reminds me of the whole Eli Manning thing…

  389. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    On another note, I cannot help but dwell in the past watching what megatron is doing out there, it just makes me sick to my stomach having to watch that guy wear a lions uniform and thinking somewhere out there, there is a 330 lb slob drinking purple drank counting his millions he stole from the Nation. That pick set this franchise back at least 3 years maybe more.
    ————-
    I feel you hindsight is 20/20. No.2 especially in light of the loss of Al Davis has become an even less likable character, but when you really think about it, everything happens for a reason. Russel in the wrong place at the wrong to time created the perfect storm. We had the wrong coaches for our organization, and the wrong players in silver & black.

    Thank goodness Davis is at the beginning stages of his last & greatest comeback story, & so ate se wrap of these players. The worm has turned & no.2 kiffin /cable era was rock bottom & we are clearly on the rebound with hu jack & company

  390. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    TDHB undoubtedly played his best game as a Raider so far.

    But another oft criticized player also had what I consider to be his best game as a Raider as well.

    I’m talking about Tommy Kelly.

    The big man was playing his butt off in Houston.

    His sideline pursuit of Schaub was truly impressive. TK was chaing Schaub for a good 30 yards towards the sideline and actually outrunning him.

    His late sack when he got facemasked was a huge play at a huge time.

    Got a kick out of seeing him talking crap to the Hou WR immediately after Huff’s pick.

    TDHB, TK, and Janikowski, three players that Al was mocked for drafting or giving the big bucks to – all came up huge last Sunday.

  391. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    yes if need be K.Wimbley and J.Moss move to linebacker in a pinch. or leave Moss up front and bring #91 the kid from buffalo to linebacker……but i still say someone needs to get at Hue to bring in FRANTZ JOSEPH for a look!

  392. MistaBrown Says:

    Interior lineman and LB should be our 1 & 2 pick but lets put away draft talk until Feb 2012.

  393. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Damn auto correct… Grrrrr

  394. Method To My Madness Says:

    CODE BLACK baby!

  395. r8eray Says:

    B!!!!
    What up?? How you doing?

  396. Method To My Madness Says:

    We have a winning record and we wanna discuss draft icks for 2012. Kinda cold aint it? Our guys have bigger goals in mind

  397. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    not draft talk injury talk…

  398. MistaBrown Says:

    Obviously.
    _____

    # Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:39 am

    We have a winning record and we wanna discuss draft icks for 2012. Kinda cold aint it? Our guys have bigger goals in mind

  399. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I can’t write off romac yet. He played the best second half of his life on one leg. He showed that he does care & he was tremendous in run defense. Almost a’s if he didn’t want to show up on film as the only guy that failed to match the level of his teammates. He bit on some play action & got burned but Kubiak burns lots of backers with that boot package & most often that won’t be enough to beat you on it’s own.

    Romac gets another year from me

  400. Method To My Madness Says:

    Sup Real Ray!……..Im solid. Excited for this entire weekend. Ricky’s and various hotel bars in Oakland will be packed. I may think about hittin the Hilton by the airort. hella raider cats smack the bar out. No matter where this weekend will be special

  401. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    and i put up the 2009 draft list to show that DHB was not that bad a pick compared to the 6 that went before him.

  402. Method To My Madness Says:

    Oh injury talk? Being that he hasnt pplayed great we still need McClain out there

  403. MistaBrown Says:

    can I hit it in the mornin without givin you half my dough even worse if I was broke would you want me

    if I couldn’t flow futuristic would ya – put your 2 lips on my wood and kiss it

    bounce

  404. Method To My Madness Says:

    In the post game seech by Hue….did yall see Hendu’s gut? That was awesome lol! And man do you see how much bigger he was than Seymour. Hendu the man

  405. hwnrdr Says:

    B@UCE!!! What’s up bro?

  406. bcz24 Says:

    Who starts at MLB if RoMac cant go? Blackstock? Eesh… that wouldn’t be good.

  407. bcz24 Says:

    404.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:46 am
    In the post game seech by Hue….did yall see Hendu’s gut? That was awesome lol! And man do you see how much bigger he was than Seymour. Hendu the man
    *********************
    Watch Romac behind Hue, up against the wall… wincing in obviously extreme pain.

  408. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    injury talk as in …ricky brown-travis goethel-mcclain…all injured

  409. bcz24 Says:

    I would like to know the real deal with Ricky Brown. Who gets IR’ed for a concussion

  410. LTR Says:

    Sweep The Leg. Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    # Haters going to hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    The Raiders only had 10 players on the field on the last play vs Hou.
    ===================================================

    Unbelievable. That play just doubled in mystique.

    The further away from Sunday, I get the more I realize what magical day that was.

    That play needs a name now.

    “The Immaculate Interception”?

    Any thoughts?
    ________________________________
    Missing the Man!

  411. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    Hue’s been bringing in players for a look,…might as well bring in Frantz for a look.

  412. Method To My Madness Says:

    Hwnrdr! Sup my friend?….just chillin puttin in another shift at the job. Wish today was Friday lol

  413. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Thought JC played a lousy game overall. Missed some easy throws and his deep ball stunk as usual.

    But he surprised me once again by making a nice play on the move. Whenever Campbell starts moving around, I’m holding my breath, expecting something bad to happen.

    Surprised the heck out of me by stepping up and throwing a beautiful pass to Bush late in the Jet game.

    Last Sunday his TD pass the Chaz while on the move was also nicely done. Campbell got to within a yard of the LOS on that play but knew where he was. He also used his peripheral vision to spot Chaz, saw him but didn’t stare him down, and threw sort of a ‘no look’ pass that left the Texans defenseless.

    Nice play.

    Now if he could actually start throwing the deep ball with some accuracy, we could take better advantage of the great speed of DM, Ford and DHB.

  414. Ryan Says:

    The Divine Interception.

  415. hwnrdr Says:

    Emotional and Exciting! Man, I tell you…if anyone dares try to protest at the Colliseum on Sunday….I tell you…watch out!

  416. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    i never did like R.Brown and bad timing on the goethel injury

  417. hwnrdr Says:

    412.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:53 am
    Hwnrdr! Sup my friend?….just chillin puttin in another shift at the job. Wish today was Friday lol

    I feel you on that one!

  418. Method To My Madness Says:

    “we can win…..and we will win”

  419. Method To My Madness Says:

    Lol Mista…..”can i get fk you?”

  420. texguy Says:

    Does anyone know where I can download the post game speech from? I haven’t seen it yet.

  421. hwnrdr Says:

    Tex…it’s on Raiders.com

  422. Method To My Madness Says:

    “they get no dough….can i get a fk you…..bounce with me bounce wit me bounce with me”

  423. bcz24 Says:

    Its on Raiders.com Tex

  424. Method To My Madness Says:

    Damn that song from what 98?…..damn did time fly fast? lol

  425. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    move trevor scott to linebacker

  426. Raiderbuck Says:

    We are so good we only needed 10 guys to win the game!

  427. QUAGRAIDER Says:

    or my wow dream run stuffer D….put TKelly and Henderson in the middle Seymour and JMoss as ends and LHouston as middlelinebacker! just a couple of times!

  428. LA to TheBay Says:

    Jay Z sucks. Same weak flow in every song.

  429. ghostraiders Says:

    Watched the Houston game again last nite. . NFL network replay. … my 4 yr old son could have made that catch that vickers. .the Houston fb dropped at the 10 yrd line… that was one weired game……. “The hand of Davis”
    …. that’s what I would call it…p

  430. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    ball so hard!

  431. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    RRRRAAAIIIIIIDDDDDEERRRSSSS!!!!!!!

  432. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    MORNING NATION?

  433. Kirk Says:

    On the last play the Raiders were in the Missing Man formation.

    Al was the 11th man.

  434. hwnrdr Says:

    Funny is that I wonder if Chuck B, or Hue Jackson knew that they only had 10 men out there?

  435. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    DID WE REALLY HAVE 10 MEN ON THE FIELD?IM CHECKING THE DVR

  436. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    PFT SAYS GM SEARCH HAS BEGUN

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/12/raiders-g-m-search-begins/

  437. Method To My Madness Says:

    428.LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:10 am
    Jay Z sucks. Same weak flow in every song.

    **************************************

    From 2002 on he sucked but before jigga man had some clean ass songs…im not even a big NY type of guy but he came up the biggest after pac and biggie left this earth….give him credit for capitlizing

  438. hwnrdr Says:

    435.mcskinnnylegs Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:19 am
    DID WE REALLY HAVE 10 MEN ON THE FIELD?IM CHECKING THE DVR

    Yup!

  439. Raiderbuck Says:

    Chuck B should get his pay deducted. That was the most important play of the game and he miffed it.

  440. hwnrdr Says:

    437.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
    428.LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:10 am
    Jay Z sucks. Same weak flow in every song.

    **************************************

    From 2002 on he sucked but before jigga man had some clean ass songs…im not even a big NY type of guy but he came up the biggest after pac and biggie left this earth….give him credit for capitlizing

    You know, that song you and MistaBrown was quoting this morning is the only song that I liked from him…other than that, I never cared for him either! That rip off that he and Beyonce did with Me and My Girlfriend just plained pi**ed me off!

  441. ghostraiders Says:

    Man… I’m just glad we won!! I don’t know how!! If you look at stats… we had no business winning the game….. it makes it even more special!! This win can catapult this team for a long time to come…. start a new legacy of winning championships. . The Raiders way…. the way al Davis would have wanted..

  442. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    WOW THAT SUX IM USUALLY NOT 1 TO JUMP SHIP SO EARLY BUT WE GOTTA GET RID OF OUR DCORD BRES HE SUCKS

  443. hwnrdr Says:

    But you know, and I forgot who said it (may have been Cable, not sure) but that win means nothing (except for the emotional weekend for Al) unless we follow it up with another and another! But I feel ya, Ghost! Statistically, we had no business winning that game, but what are stats for???

  444. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    HOPE SEYMOUR DOESNT DRINK AS MANY REDBULLS AS HE DID IN THE PATSY GAME.WE NEED HIM BIG TIME IN THIS GAME AGAINST CLEV.U GUYS AGREE?

  445. hwnrdr Says:

    442.mcskinnnylegs Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:25 am
    WOW THAT SUX IM USUALLY NOT 1 TO JUMP SHIP SO EARLY BUT WE GOTTA GET RID OF OUR DCORD BRES HE SUCKS

    Spagnolo? Reunite him with Wauffle? But too early for that!

  446. Method To My Madness Says:

    436.mcskinnnylegs Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
    PFT SAYS GM SEARCH HAS BEGUN

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/12/raiders-g-m-search-begins/

    *****************************
    some guy in comments said kenny williams…interesting

  447. Method To My Madness Says:

    440.hwnrdr Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:23 am
    437.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
    428.LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:10 am
    Jay Z sucks. Same weak flow in every song.

    **************************************

    From 2002 on he sucked but before jigga man had some clean ass songs…im not even a big NY type of guy but he came up the biggest after pac and biggie left this earth….give him credit for capitlizing

    You know, that song you and MistaBrown was quoting this morning is the only song that I liked from him…other than that, I never cared for him either! That rip off that he and Beyonce did with Me and My Girlfriend just plained pi**ed me off!

    ******************

    Yeah that was a joke man

  448. Method To My Madness Says:

    We will be 6-2 playing SD on thursday night nov 10th

  449. r8rhemi Says:

    The Al-leventh Man

  450. Method To My Madness Says:

    call it looking ahead….we will win….i believe in them

  451. Method To My Madness Says:

    449.r8rhemi Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:31 am
    The Al-leventh Man

    ***************

    Best ever name….yes

  452. hwnrdr Says:

    451.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:32 am
    449.r8rhemi Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:31 am
    The Al-leventh Man

    ***************

    Best ever name….yes

    Yup, love it!

  453. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    LOL DERRICK MASON GOT TRADED TO HOUSTON

  454. Raiderbuck Says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Raiders-had-10-men-on-the-field-for-game-?urn=nfl-wp9357

  455. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    The Al-leventh Man

    FUNNY ISH MAN MUCH LOVE WE MISS U AL

  456. MistaBrown Says:

    You are pitiful garbage.
    ______

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Jay Z sucks. Same weak flow in every song.

  457. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    WHAT YEARS WAS RON WOLF HERE?

  458. LA to TheBay Says:

    give him credit for capitlizing
    ——-

    I do. He made a lot of money.

    So did Adam Sandler and he doesn’t have any talent either.

  459. Raiduh4life Says:

    Fellas, my name is paulie…just joined the blog. But I’ve probably been reading this thing for the last 2 years …on a regular daily basis.
    Hardcore raider fan! Thought I’d join n become a part of this great group. Have to give props to the regulars that deserve it. (method,hwndr,theca,priest, just a few names that come to mind) and the rest of y all that give much input….it’s amazing! La to the bay etc….. It’s great to be able to read everyones opinions n input.

    Rip mr. Davis! Truly heartbroken n that win was unbelievable! Called raiders to purchase my tickets for the browns game n decided F* it, ended up buying the 6 games remaining lol. So I hope to meet some of u regulars. I’m from Fresno so not as easy to commute up regularly but this season has a special feel.

    Raaaaaaaiders!

  460. ghostraiders Says:

    True hwndr…. kubiak and shaub must be asking themselves. .. how did we let that one get away??… They are going to get rocked at Baltimore. …. we softened up the jets for the ravens. .. And now we softened up the Texans for them as well….. ravens are going to beat them bad….. Houston might tank a few after losing this one..

  461. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    Called raiders to purchase my tickets for the browns game

    ____________________________________________________

    U KNOW THEY WERE GIVING OUT FREE TICKETS RIGHT

  462. inonewordraider Says:

    Jay Z sucks. Same weak flow in every song.

    _____________________________________
    not a fan but reasonable doubt great album. 22 2’s, friend or foe, dead presidents, and d’evils

  463. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    IM GLAD THE DONKS STARTING TEBOW.WHO THEY GONNA CHANT FOR WHEN HE SUCKS NEXT WEEK

  464. Raiduh4life Says:

    I use this site on my phone during the day due to work. How do I get it to refresh and update the comments without scrolling up n reloading the page? Any ideas?

  465. hwnrdr Says:

    Raiduh4life…welcome brother and thanks for the props!
    You’ll have fun at the games! You also may want to make a day out of it! Tailgating is always great!

  466. ghostraiders Says:

    Mcskinny… they were giving them away to season ticket holders only. ..complimentary

  467. LA to TheBay Says:

    MistaAdolf,

    I’m not joking even a little bit when I say you have big time issues, man.

    Big time.

  468. hwnrdr Says:

    461.mcskinnnylegs Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:56 am
    Called raiders to purchase my tickets for the browns game

    ____________________________________________________

    U KNOW THEY WERE GIVING OUT FREE TICKETS RIGHT

    I believe that was a special for season ticket holders, right?

  469. Raiduh4life Says:

    Mcskinny Yeah but wanted to get a few other games…they weren’t just giving tickets away to anyone? Only season ticket holders right? Oh well too late lol

  470. LA to TheBay Says:

    Raiduh4life
    ———-

    Welcome. Lots of interesting insight, funny commentary, good people on this blog. But be prepared for weirdness. Blog has that in spades.

  471. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    I WAS JUS BUSTIN BALLS BUD WELCOME TO THE BLOG

  472. weaselbit Says:

    dont listen yo espn. Tebow will do what it takes to get yardage. A scrambling qb is always a pain. Orton was easier to beat.

    Donkeys still not good enuf to beat us tho

  473. Raiduh4life Says:

    Thanks hwnrdr appreciate the welcome…. Yeah I’ll definetly show up n tailgate for a majority of the remaining games.

    This blog has cracked me up over the years man there are definetly some annoying members lol but I guess u get that everywhere ….

  474. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    BATTLEFIELD 3 LOOKS F’N AMAZING!!SEE YA LATER C.O.D!

  475. weaselbit Says:

    Was there really only 10 Raiders on the field last play vs texans?

  476. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    TEBOW HAD THAT 40 YD TD RUN AGAINST US.U REMEMBER THAT I COULDNT BELIVE MY LYING EYES

  477. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    WEASEL YEA THERE WAS I CHECKED

  478. Raiduh4life Says:

    Yeah there’s your occasional weirdness haha. Beechum like WTF is he talking about lmao on a raiders blog

  479. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    473.Raiduh4life Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:04 am
    Thanks hwnrdr appreciate the welcome…. Yeah I’ll definetly show up n tailgate for a majority of the remaining games.

    This blog has cracked me up over the years man there are definetly some annoying members lol but I guess u get that everywhere ….

    _______________________________________________________

    YEA WERE IS MR BY THE WAY?

  480. weaselbit Says:

    Elway, Bradshaw. Raiders had fits chasing those b@astards around. Not saying Tebow is there yet, but he has the potential. The talking heads trashing him only provide motivation. If he steps up, he might be good.

  481. Sullivan44 Says:

    Tribune seems to really be stirring the pot about the Raiders leaving. Other papers mostly just reporting on how Al will be replaced as GM. Is the Trib doing O city council’s bidding and trying to get rid of the Raiders?

  482. Sullivan44 Says:

    Or, is the Trib doing the Raiders’ bidding, as they are the ones who want to leave?

  483. Raiduh4life Says:

    Loving the Al-leventh man

  484. weaselbit Says:

    I remember delivering the Tribune when I was a kid in san leandro. They were hardcore Raider supporters back then.

  485. r8eray Says:

    Skinny, you want some?

  486. Method To My Madness Says:

    481.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:08 am
    Tribune seems to really be stirring the pot about the Raiders leaving. Other papers mostly just reporting on how Al will be replaced as GM. Is the Trib doing O city council’s bidding and trying to get rid of the Raiders?

    *******************

    you are such a little niner phag

  487. Method To My Madness Says:

    I hope you show your face one day you fkin niner lover……that will be your last day on this planet…it aint a threat its a promise

  488. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Does anybody know what Frantz Joseph has been doing for the last two years or what kind of shape he is in?

  489. Raiders_83 Says:

    Haven’t read thru all the posts, but seen this…..
    After the surprising news about the passing of Al Davis, the Oakland Raiders clinched an emotional win on Sunday against the Houston Texans after Michael Huff intercepted Matt Schaub in the end zone on the final play of the game. While it was already an impressive win for the Raiders to begin with on the road, it was their accidental mistake at the end of the game that made this win even more special.

    Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports provided a screenshot of both teams lining up for the final play of the game on Sunday–with the Raiders only having 10 players on the field. At first, many wondered if Oakland purposely had 10 men on the field as a tribute to Davis–but they insist that was not the case.

    Either way, the important factor here is the Raiders still won the game without having all of their players on the field at the end of the game–which makes the win that much more sweet.

    Dan Parzych is the Lead NFL Content Editor for RantSports.com/NFL, where he writes and edits NFL content for RantSports.com

  490. weaselbit Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    I hope you show your face one day you fkin niner lover……that will be your last day on this planet…it aint a threat its a promise

    Weasel: Dude!

  491. weaselbit Says:

    We got a pass on that one 83.

  492. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    What up B!!

    I’ll see this Sunday!!

  493. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    SUP RAY

  494. weaselbit Says:

    Al’s ghost helping the team.

  495. Sullivan44 Says:

    Why is the Tribune the only paper really pushing the relocation rumors?

  496. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    DONT MAKE ME PLAY MADDEN WITH MY AL-EVENTH MAN CHEAT CODE RAY

  497. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Lost all respect for Eric Dickerson. He is not a member of the Raider Nation http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/11/eric-dickerson-al-davis-nfl-los-angeles-rams-st-louis/

  498. Raiders_83 Says:

    Here is the link with the pic
    http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/apparently_raiders_only_had_10_players_on_the_field_during_final_play_against_texans/7366744?linksrc=foxrg_nfl

  499. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    err see YOU this Sunday

  500. r8eray Says:

    Yo…..Skinny!

  501. weaselbit Says:

    Freaking Ouija board on the sidelines.

  502. Raiders_83 Says:

    Al-leventh man..
    Classic

  503. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    I LOVE HOW SULLY GETS IN AND INSTANTLY GETS ABUSED

  504. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports provided a screenshot of both teams lining up for the final play of the game on Sunday–with the Raiders only having 10 players on the field. At first, many wondered if Oakland purposely had 10 men on the field as a tribute to Davis–but they insist that was not the case.

    That would have been hilarious if true.

  505. Sullivan44 Says:

    I passed on this year’s Madden.

    $60, plus $20 fee to this “x box gold” scam to get the actual 2011 Raiders’ roster, then I also hear franchise mode has automatic clock runoff that you can’t change, making it impossible to audible at the l.o.s.

    The Madden/NFL exclusivity contract has ruined NFL video games.

  506. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    SUP RAY WHAT U BEEN UP 2?HAVENT SEEN U IN THE BLOG

  507. r8eray Says:

    Lol……man you need all the help you can get!!!!

    ;)

  508. LA to TheBay Says:

    That would have been hilarious if true.

    ——-

    It would have been retarded, lol. Imagine if the Texans through a fade route to some uncovered receiver. We’d have been completely blasted by the media.

  509. Method To My Madness Says:

    Drex…ill see you there

  510. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    THATS WEIRD WE BOTH LOST USING RAIDERS!WTF!

  511. r8eray Says:

    44, PS3 is free to play and free roster update……Taiwan and Pryor are for real!!!!

  512. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    RAY WHEN U GONNA GET A MIC THERE LIKE 5$ DUDE SO BORING W/O 1

  513. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    PRYORS A BUM!

  514. r8eray Says:

    I’ll get a game in a while….gotta cook breakfast and take a shower.
    BBL….get your practice Skinny!

    ;)

  515. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    I GOT 10 PLATINUM TROPHYS ON MY PSN ACCOUNT

  516. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    LOL LATER

  517. LA to TheBay Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:17 am
    I passed on this year’s Madden.

    $60, plus $20 fee to this “x box gold” scam to get the actual 2011 Raiders’ roster, then I also hear franchise mode has automatic clock runoff that you can’t change, making it impossible to audible at the l.o.s.

    The Madden/NFL exclusivity contract has ruined NFL video games.

    —————

    Well, I got it only because they fixed the tackling. It’s as realistic as its ever been. It’s the best Madden in several years, but being EA, it does have its problems.

    At first I thought the clock run off was an error or something but you can only turn it off in exhibition, so I just play Franschise with 8 min quarters.

    You can play hurry up, but the clock does get annoying.

    Also, QBs hold on to the ball too long. This has been an ongoing issue for the last three years, but much worse this year. The pro is that I am racking up sacks on opposing QBs (Kelly, Seymour, Wimbley and my boy Lawrence Timmons – acquired in a surprisingly one0sided trade from Pitt – are beastly). Also stole DRC from philly.

    McFadden is pure gold, though, and they gave Moore a lot of love.

  518. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR, they allow you to edit players, so if you didn’t want to pay for Xbox live and get roster update, you could literally edit each player as you see fit.

    It’s kind of weak, but it is a free alternative to Live.

  519. LA to TheBay Says:

    Wow, PS3 gives you free roster update? Curse you, Bill Gates.

  520. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Why and How did HU jack gain the respect and trust of Davis so soon? How has he managed to forge a relationship with the mercurial owner, when other coaches flopped miserably?

    They always said Davis wants puppets. coaches that will simply fall in line with Davis and any of his whims. From what I can tell Davis wasnt looking for that at all. Coaches that fit that mold didnt last long at all because the players and Davis would walk all over them. Coaches like mike white, and Norvell turner, can x o with the best of them, but they didnt have the stones, or force of personality to deal with Davis. Hu jack has been able to balance the demands of Davis with out appearing to be a push over in the face of the players. I believe his passion equaled Davis, and Davis’s vision was indeed similar to Jacksons’s vision. the fact that they agreed so often, gave Hu jack leeway to disagree when he needed, because of their genuine relationship.

    Then you had guys like shell, and bugel. They had a genuine respect and relationship with Davis, but didnt have the minerals to game plan. So I can imagine davis being dissatisfied with something in practice or in the game, then dancing circles around these two discussing game plan and scheme on one of those late night phone calls that hu jack described. the players knew this, and knew that it was davis coaching. Those guys were in over their heads, so their relationship with davis worked against them in the eyes of the players, as they looked to be puppets.

    You have another class of coaches that davis hired that could scheme, they knew how to coach, they had enough personality to hold their own in the eyes of the players, yet they still failed. They failed because they were never truly believers in the raider way. They didnt believe in Davis’s methods, yet they came in as if they wanted to carry on our tradition. I would include gruden, kiffin, and cable ( cable didnt have the chops to scheme or gameplan like the others in this group to be clear), all in this catagory. Each of these guys was like a wolf in sheeps clothing. they wanted to change the way things are done here. They wanted to choose players, change our philosophy and the like. they made their dissatisfaction public and ruined any shot at forming a real relationship with the last living godfather of the nfl! Their obtuse nature made it impossible to succeed. Davis traded gruden, fired kiffin, and let cable walk because these guys in part because these guys could figure out how to work with davis.

    This brings us to hu jack. Unlike kiffin, and gruden, HU jack wrapped himself in the shadow of Davis and used it as a shield. A shield against the media that is constantly trying to find evidence of a nonexistent rift between the two. When ever he asked about the communication between them he falls back to how willing he is to be a part of those conversations. Gruden and kiffin wanted to be remake the raiders, hu jack wants to restore the raiders. Davis saw this and trusted HU jack because of it.

    Al davis will always be a coach, he coached players, and he coached the coaches. Kiffin gruden, & moronically cable thought they didnt need his coaching. Hu jack relished it. Of course any person that has been teaching as long as Al wants willing and respectful students, when you find one you love them. Hu jack was smart to learn like he did, this also difused any media angle looking to stir up issues.

    Hu jack is a great play caller, and knows schemes and knows how to teach players. This along with his passion and force of personality allow him to command the attention in the locker room, and the respect from Davis. When players start to see that what you are teaching is making them better players, and producing wins they buy in quickly. we have seen players that have been considered some of the worst and biggest bust, now begin to look good. The players in the locker room are fully aware of this and so was Davis.

    I realize this is a highly speculative theory based on an outsiders view. Yet I think that following my team and davis for 30 plus years has allowed me to identify a few patterns. My guess is in his last few years, Davis was at his sharpest, & may have made his greatest hire since flores in hiring Hu jack.

  521. Sullivan44 Says:

    Interesting choice of words by the TMZ interviewer, how important was Al to black players.

    Dickerson’s reply, “No comment”.

    Ouch. Is Dickerson just bitter over not getting a paycheck he wanted? Or did he hear some banter similar to what Tim Brown got about black players from Notre Dame while with the Raiders?

    I agree with him about bringing the Rams back to L.A., though. L.A. needs to cultivate its own culture and stop jacking everything from Oakland. Hip hop (trying to turn “hyphy” into “jerkin’”..lol), the Raiders…get off Oakland’s nuts, L.A. I know Hollywood is lame now and LA’s music scene is even lamer, but pilfering from the yay is not the answer. Get your own schit together.

  522. Stabler76 Says:

    r8eray Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 4:59 am
    On final play, Raiders had 10 men on the field
    Sounds to me like Florio is officially on the bandwagon!

    ======================================================

    Sounds to me that he is making fun of the defense.

    On the most important play of the game, the D could not even get the correct number of men on the field.

  523. LA to TheBay Says:

    Oh, and you can audible at LOS. Do it all the time. Boss, Moore, and Reece are matchup nightmares.

  524. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    WOW WTF THEY CHARGE U FOR THE ROSTER UPDATE ON THE CRAPBOX360?

  525. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    LATOTHEBAY TRADE THAT DOODOO IN AND GET A PS3

  526. mcskinnnylegs Says:

    JACOBY 9 ROUTE= I WIN

  527. LA to TheBay Says:

    Not sure if this was brought up yet..

    PFT:

    Report: Raiders’ G.M. search begins

    Further confirming the fact that Mark Davis will own, but not run, the Raiders, Albert Breer of NFL.com reported Tuesday that the team has commenced the process of looking for a General Manager. The model, as Breer explains it, would operate like the situation in Pittsburgh, where coach Mike Tomlin and G.M. (as of this season) Kevin Colbert work in concert.

    Breer also reports that a football consultant could be hired to help the team through the balance of the 2011 campaign.

    Raiders CEO Amy Trask separately said that she is not ready to talk publicly about the possibility of hiring a G.M. or a director of football operations, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Though the process of running a team during the season is less complex, plans need to be made for free agency in 2012 and the next college draft. Complicating a quick search is the fact that an overabundance of quality candidates aren’t immediately available, since most of the best choices currently have jobs. Also, given that the G.M. would have to work in concert with coach Hue Jackson, the search would need to happen at a time when Jackson has time to be involved with interviews and discussions with the finalists.

    To the extent that the Raiders will gravitate toward folks with ties to the organization, names to watch could include John Madden, Matt Millen (who as Peter King reported over the weekend turned down an offer to work for the team after being fired by the Lions), and Sean Jones (whom we’re told was at one point under consideration for a front-office job).

    Then there’s a topic that was raised during Tuesday’s PFT Live. With the Raiders under Al Davis never using contracts for anyone in the front office, it’s unlikely that Jackson’s contract stipulates that he reported to anyone but Al Davis. The next question becomes whether Jackson’s contract contains language that would require him to report to a G.M. or some other employee who may be hired upon the passing of Al Davis. If not, the coach and the G.M. would have separate straight-line reporting obligations to Mark Davis.

    Eventually, there’s a good chance that Mark Davis will create a hierarchy like the one that Randy Lerner has crafted in Cleveland. Lerner, who inherited the Browns from his father (who also was named Al), has no interest in being a traditional owner. Thus, Lerner has hired Mike Holmgren to serve in that role as to all football matters. Though Jackson’s contract could be an impediment to that structure, it could be the best way for Davis to run the team, if he doesn’t truly want to run the team.

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  528. Sullivan44 Says:

    They used the lockout as an excuse to freeze the rosters to last year, and are offering a “free download” of the 2011 rosters….you just can’t connect to the internet on xbox without the “x box gold”, which costs $20! That’s all. Ridiculous.

  529. LA to TheBay Says:

    mcskinnnylegs Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:28 am
    LATOTHEBAY TRADE THAT DOODOO IN AND GET A PS3

    —–

    My 360’s been good to me. Roster update thing does piss my off though.

  530. LA to TheBay Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:30 am
    They used the lockout as an excuse to freeze the rosters to last year, and are offering a “free download” of the 2011 rosters….you just can’t connect to the internet on xbox without the “x box gold”, which costs $20! That’s all. Ridiculous.

    ——–

    You can connect and get game and console updates for free, just can;t access roster update without Gold.

    It’s lame.

  531. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Post Mystic!

  532. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR, 9.99 for 1 month. If you look hard enough on the net, you can get a free trial. Usually have to participate in some survey. Beware of scams.

  533. Thec07 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:41 am
    I can’t write off romac yet. He played the best second half of his life on one leg. He showed that he does care & he was tremendous in run defense.

    +++++++

    I am going to back track on McClain….

    He flat out sacked up in the houston game…

    He was injuried and came back and made a diffrence on one leg….

    I am not going to come at him at all…He came up huge in the second half…

    Once he gets into a natural playing mode where he is going on insticts and not thinking he is going to pay dividends….

  534. Sullivan44 Says:

    Let’s just hope Mark either keeps Hue as HC/GM, or hires a real football GM. Every time I see Trask’s name I get a bad taste in my mouth. Trask and Herrera reek of everything that has been wrong with this organization in recent years.

  535. MistaBrown Says:

    Your using a hitler blast on me and I’m the one with issues?

    POS
    _______

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    MistaAdolf,

    I’m not joking even a little bit when I say you have big time issues, man.

  536. LA to TheBay Says:

    I know Hollywood is lame now and LA’s music scene is even lamer, but pilfering from the yay is not the answer. Get your own schit together.
    ——–

    Can;t say I disagree with this.

  537. LA to TheBay Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:33 am
    Your using a hitler blast on me and I’m the one with issues?

    ——-

    Right wing racist nut…. seems like a good fit.

  538. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s no wonder LA wants the Raiders. Everything in L.A. sucks today.

  539. Sullivan44 Says:

    Push these Ob@ma haters enough, the racism comes out. That’s a no-brainer. Looks like MB finally melted down. I’ll scroll up and see what happened.

  540. Method To My Madness Says:

    521.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
    Interesting choice of words by the TMZ interviewer, how important was Al to black players.

    Dickerson’s reply, “No comment”.

    Ouch. Is Dickerson just bitter over not getting a paycheck he wanted? Or did he hear some banter similar to what Tim Brown got about black players from Notre Dame while with the Raiders?

    I agree with him about bringing the Rams back to L.A., though. L.A. needs to cultivate its own culture and stop jacking everything from Oakland. Hip hop (trying to turn “hyphy” into “jerkin’”..lol), the Raiders…get off Oakland’s nuts, L.A. I know Hollywood is lame now and LA’s music scene is even lamer, but pilfering from the yay is not the answer. Get your own schit together.

    ***************************

    Dude….shut the fk up with that. You just wanna be negative and bring other people down cuz you hate your own existence

    Eric Dickerson is a loser and always has been

  541. Stabler76 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:41 am
    I can’t write off romac yet. He played the best second half of his life on one leg. He showed that he does care & he was tremendous in run defense.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I have to agree, (I was) impressed with RoMac for the first time Sunday

  542. Method To My Madness Says:

    534.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:33 am
    Let’s just hope Mark either keeps Hue as HC/GM, or hires a real football GM. Every time I see Trask’s name I get a bad taste in my mouth. Trask and Herrera reek of everything that has been wrong with this organization in recent years.

    ************************

    The taste comes from your Uncle leaving his spunk on your tongue

  543. Sullivan44 Says:

    Of course, when Hank Jr. compares a sitting president to Hitler, he’s just “speaking his mind”. But let someone compare any right wing race baiter to Hitler, and they’re way off base! lol.

  544. Thec07 Says:

    Re watched the game a couple of times now…

    1 thinkg for certain no way schaub was going to run that in…

    Schaub could not outrun Kelly earlier.

    Schaub had taken a lot of abuse in the game.

    Schaub would have got the SH!T knocked outta him by branch…

  545. Method To My Madness Says:

    538.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:35 am
    It’s no wonder LA wants the Raiders. Everything in L.A. sucks today.

    *************************

    What’s your point in all this?

  546. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Potentially good news:

    Joe Haden and Alex Mack–who may be the Browns’s 2 best players–sitting out of practice today. Neither has been ruled out for Sunday, but it’s a good sign that they won’t be at 100% if they do play

  547. Method To My Madness Says:

    Mista racist? Boy thats such a lie

  548. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, you’re not concerned about the tribune articles stirring up the LA rumors? They seem to be the only news agency doing this. Chron is reporting on managerial changes, same with LA Times. SacBee is only reporting on the Niners, as usual. Tribune, IBA is all about the Raiders leaving right now. You’re not wondering what’s behind this? You’re not wondering if they’re doing the bidding of either Oakland’s city council, or, yikes, the team itself? Has to make you think. Because they’re pushing the envelope on this for some reason.

  549. MistaBrown Says:

    Let me know what you find moron.
    _____

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Push these Ob@ma haters enough, the racism comes out. That’s a no-brainer. Looks like MB finally melted down. I’ll scroll up and see what happened.

  550. Thec07 Says:

    DVD, is a very smart rookie….Those of you that say bad comments need to go back and watch that game…

    The rook was getting our vet CB’s in postion to make plays before the snap on 3rd down….Rook stood up that game….He is going to pay big dividends….

  551. Method To My Madness Says:

    544.Thec07 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:39 am
    Re watched the game a couple of times now…

    1 thinkg for certain no way schaub was going to run that in…

    Schaub could not outrun Kelly earlier.

    Schaub had taken a lot of abuse in the game.

    Schaub would have got the SH!T knocked outta him by branch…

    ********************

    Branch woulda ended his season

  552. Sullivan44 Says:

    Brien, as much as you like to hate on my pimp status (he he), we’re on the same page when it comes to the Raiders being in Oakland.

  553. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DVRd the Raiders replay on NFL Network last night, but did catch the final few minutes live.

    That roughing the passer call on Seymour was pure, 100% B.S.

    He didn’t dive at his legs like Bernard Pollard did to Tom Brady or Raheem Brock did to Roethlisberger this season. He didn’t even hit Schaub in the knees. he was on the ground, reached out and wrapped up his ankles/shins and pulled him down.

    I thought that was called a “tackle.” What a joke. Guess the good guys won in the end so it really doesn’t matter. But still annoying.

  554. Thec07 Says:

    Branch woulda ended his season

    ++++++

    No fcking doubt…

    ———CODE BLACK———-

  555. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, after you scroll up and find nothing go ahead and suck my d!k.

  556. Sullivan44 Says:

    It may have been fate. I watched that highlight a hundred times last night. If Shaub throws that thing a second earlier, it’s 6. He hesitated one second too long.

  557. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    Mistic1…post 520:

    Very impressive and lots of value to your speculation. It’s probably right on…good insights. You mentioned Tom Flores as a good hire and I surely agree on that two (2 Super Bowls).

    Why didn’t you mention Madden, who was the youngest coach hired at that specific time, also 10 years and one Super Bowl?

    Finally, I like your adjective in discribing Cable, as
    moronically Cable…very appropriate and right on.

  558. DutchRaider77 Says:

    So Tommy Kelly wasn’t off when he said that Schaub choked? Texans playing 11 on 10 and Schaub couldn’t find an open man? Don’t think JC wouldn’t have been blasted for that….

  559. Thec07 Says:

    the phanton holding call or CC was the worst bull schit i have seen in a minute…Negating a 41 yard run by the NFL’s best.

    The DT back was to the ref…No way he he could see what was going on as he was shielded….

    Horrible call, even that dikhead fouts said it was a bad call…

  560. Method To My Madness Says:

    548.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:41 am
    Brien, you’re not concerned about the tribune articles stirring up the LA rumors? They seem to be the only news agency doing this. Chron is reporting on managerial changes, same with LA Times. SacBee is only reporting on the Niners, as usual. Tribune, IBA is all about the Raiders leaving right now. You’re not wondering what’s behind this? You’re not wondering if they’re doing the bidding of either Oakland’s city council, or, yikes, the team itself? Has to make you think. Because they’re pushing the envelope on this for some reason.

    **********************************

    No one cares…..Raiders aint moving just shut the fk up

  561. Sullivan44 Says:

    Actually, the receiver was open just before the ball was thrown. If Shaub gets rid of that football a second earlier, we’re crying the blues. It must have been Al’s ghost that made him hesitate. He came in to take Shaub down, and take him down hard.

  562. Sullivan44 Says:

    Alright, Brien. Just throwing it out there, because it’s a 100% fact that the tribune is pushing the relocation issue. I don’t want the Raiders to leave either, and I don’t think they will. But I just want to know why the tribune won’t let it go.

  563. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Madden is very close to the Raider family and I bet he will be used as a close consultant in what they decide. 95.7 said that Davis and Madden were “best friends,” but Madden is pretty old and doubt he wants the strain that a NFL GM has to deal with.

  564. Method To My Madness Says:

    552.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:42 am
    Brien, as much as you like to hate on my pimp status (he he), we’re on the same page when it comes to the Raiders being in Oakland.

    ********************

    Please spare us all

  565. Sullivan44 Says:

    Dutch, Vittorio said Madden would be considered on an interim basis. I would think Wolf, too. My idea is to have Madden and Wolf come in and and brainstorm on appointing a long term GM.

  566. Thec07 Says:

    unless we plan on brining in some new talent no reason to rush the GM thing….

    Take your time evaluate everything and everyone at the end of the season…

    Right now we have the browns smash….

  567. Sullivan44 Says:

    Vittorio also mentioned a Wolf protege. Think he’s with Seattle. I dunno about that because Seattle hasn’t been great.

  568. DutchRaider77 Says:

    That roughing the passer call on Seymour was pure, 100% B.S.

    ___________________________________________________

    But did you hear Schaub’s squeal when he got hit. It might have been worth the 15, still they are going to call that on most QBs.

  569. Sullivan44 Says:

    Wolf and Madden should be heavily consulted on the permanent GM. There’s nobody I trust more than those 2. And there’s nobody I trust less making the decision than Trask.

  570. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Hagar the Horrible Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Mistic1…post 520:

    Why didn’t you mention Madden, who was the youngest coach hired at that specific time, also 10 years and one Super Bowl?

    =========

    Thanks hagar, i didnt mentioned Flores as Davis’s last great coaching hire ,pre-hu jack. Of course madden was also a great coach, but he pre dates flores.

    I hope HU jack can win a trophy so he can be included in their class.

  571. The Big Banana Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:46 am
    the phanton holding call or CC was the worst bull schit i have seen in a minute…Negating a 41 yard run by the NFL’s best.

    The DT back was to the ref…No way he he could see what was going on as he was shielded….

    Horrible call, even that dikhead fouts said it was a bad call…

    ________________

    Let’s not forget them picking up the flag on the obvious block in the back. This picking up flag bullsh!t is getting old, fast.

  572. Method To My Madness Says:

    562.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
    Alright, Brien. Just throwing it out there, because it’s a 100% fact that the tribune is pushing the relocation issue. I don’t want the Raiders to leave either, and I don’t think they will. But I just want to know why the tribune won’t let it go.

    *****************

    Shut up MR…you not gonna snake your way as if you are with us….you are against the Raiders

  573. Thec07 Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:52 am
    That roughing the passer call on Seymour was pure, 100% B.S.

    ___________________________________________________

    But did you hear Schaub’s squeal when he got hit. It might have been worth the 15, still they are going to call that on most QBs.

    ++++++++

    Schuab was gettin his A$$ kicked in that game….
    I bet he is still in the ice tube…

    Thats how QB’s need to be treated by the Raiders…

    oh yeah and fck rivers…

  574. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    9.Haters going to hate Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OaklandPlayerCount.jpg

    Only 10 Raiders on the field
    —————————————————-

    Al was playing man on that play.

  575. Sullivan44 Says:

    It’s really, really hard to win a Super Bowl. And I’m just cynical enough anymore to believe that you have to somehow be in cahoots with the league on a business standpoint. But I’m almost certain the Raiders will be a top tier team as soon as next year.

  576. Method To My Madness Says:

    565.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
    Dutch, Vittorio said Madden would be considered on an interim basis. I would think Wolf, too. My idea is to have Madden and Wolf come in and and brainstorm on appointing a long term GM.

    *****************************

    Fk you and your ideas

  577. Sullivan44 Says:

    Alright, Brien. I tried engaging you like an adult. That was a mistake.

  578. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    screwed that up. I meant flores was the last great hire pre hu jack, madden of course also great was before flores.

  579. Thec07 Says:

    Let’s not forget them picking up the flag on the obvious block in the back. This picking up flag bullsh!t is getting old, fast.

    +++++++

    right…I don’t beleive the zeb’s have it in for us however, some of the schit i see makes you shake your head… Investing in expensive TV’s is a no no…

  580. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Dutch, Vittorio said Madden would be considered on an interim basis. I would think Wolf, too. My idea is to have Madden and Wolf come in and and brainstorm on appointing a long term GM.

    ___________________________________________________

    Actually NFL network, Lombardi said exactly what you said above. Pretty cool if they could come in and train a GM in the Raider way of doing things.

  581. Sullivan44 Says:

    Gruden wasn’t a good coach, Mistic?

  582. Thec07 Says:

    Fk you and your ideas

    ++++++++

    ROFLMAO….

  583. Sullivan44 Says:

    Madden and Wolf appointing a long term successor is the only answer. Anything else is sketchy.

  584. Hagar the Horrible Says:

    SilverNBlack…post 553:

    Definately, it was 100% bullshzt, but you have to remember that part of the job description for NFL officials is to insure that the Raiders get singled out at all opportunities…it goes with our “bad boys in black” image.

    Just like the questionable holding call on Cooper Carlisle which negated the 42 yard run by McFadden.
    It’s all part of their (official’s) game plan concerning the Raiders. And, no, I’m not paranoid, I’m practical and observant of penalties against us….year after year. And, it started decades before the Tuck Rule. The Tuck Rule was more glaring as it stole the game and the Super Bowl as well.

  585. Sullivan44 Says:

    And I don’t think it would hurt to have Gruden in the process, either, considering he was the only coach to get us to the playoffs somewhat in this era.

  586. Thec07 Says:

    I gotta run….

    COACH DAVIS NATION…..RAIDER NATION…..

  587. The Big Banana Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:55 am
    screwed that up. I meant flores was the last great hire pre hu jack, madden of course also great was before flores.

    __________

    Whoa there, bubba. I’m also a big fan of HuJak but let’s wait a little longer before we crown him, shall we. Lol.

  588. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Nice post Myst, the idiots that came through and thought they knew better than, or didn’t know how to work with AD, never stood a chance.

    The over head projector needs to be in Canton.

  589. DutchRaider77 Says:

    And I don’t think it would hurt to have Gruden in the process, either, considering he was the only coach to get us to the playoffs somewhat in this era.

    ___________________________________________________

    Throwing at the wall, but I bet Gruden becomes Miami’s (fins) head coach next year. Perfect oppurtunity for Gruden. Gruden and Orton in Miami?

  590. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Gruden wasn’t a good coach, Mistic?
    ==================

    good not great.

    Gruden may have respected the davis theory on football but he didnt believe in it. he didnt know enough about it to pick players for it. Davis allowed gruden to change our philosophy on offense and get a lot of the players he wanted. yet gruden ultimatly thought he was better than he really was, and constantly clashed with davis.

    Gruden fatal flaw, he didnt want to be coached by coach davis, and wanted to remake the raiders in his image.

  591. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    And I don’t think it would hurt to have Gruden in the process, either, considering he was the only coach to get us to the playoffs somewhat in this era.
    ——————-
    The mancrush lives on,,,,,,,,,,,,

  592. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Gruden fatal flaw, he didnt want to be coached by coach Davis, and wanted to remake the raiders in his image.
    ======================
    Why has it been years, and people still do not grasp this concept.

  593. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:55 am
    screwed that up. I meant flores was the last great hire pre hu jack, madden of course also great was before flores.

    __________

    Whoa there, bubba. I’m also a big fan of HuJak but let’s wait a little longer before we crown him, shall we. Lol.
    ==================================

    bannana in the tail pipe,

    i havent crowned anyone. Flores and madden are clearly in a class by themselves. I am hoping that HU jack can reach that level of success, and if he does he would be the greatest hire since those two giants.

    I already think he is better than gruden or any coach we have had since our Superbowl wining coaches.

  594. The Big Banana Says:

    The over head projector needs to be in Canton.

    _________

    LMAO! Good call.

  595. Method To My Madness Says:

    585.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am
    And I don’t think it would hurt to have Gruden in the process, either, considering he was the only coach to get us to the playoffs somewhat in this era.

    *****************

    Yeah Gruden knows how to build young teams…he has such a great history witht hat…and quit saying “us”….you a 49er btch

  596. Method To My Madness Says:

    577.Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:55 am
    Alright, Brien. I tried engaging you like an adult. That was a mistake.

    *************************

    Yeah now come to a game and fight me like a man

  597. LA to TheBay Says:

    Whats a Drexl? Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:04 am
    Gruden fatal flaw, he didnt want to be coached by coach Davis, and wanted to remake the raiders in his image.
    ======================
    Why has it been years, and people still do not grasp this concept.

    ——————-

    Gruden just wanted to win and do so the only way he knew how. Don’t think he was trying to hijack the Raiders. My understanding is the rift wa smore contractual than anything. Davis made an offer that Gruden didn’t like and then he got traded.

  598. inonewordraider Says:

    CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
    #Raiders defense tied for sixth in completion percentage (54.8), yet 29th in passing yards allowed (299.6 average).
    26 minutes ago
    __________________________

    sounds like we have the players to stop the pass but we’re giving up too many big plays? Also have the players to stop the run evidenced by Sunday…

  599. The Big Banana Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
    # The Big Banana Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:55 am
    screwed that up. I meant flores was the last great hire pre hu jack, madden of course also great was before flores.

    __________

    Whoa there, bubba. I’m also a big fan of HuJak but let’s wait a little longer before we crown him, shall we. Lol.
    ==================================

    bannana in the tail pipe,

    i havent crowned anyone. Flores and madden are clearly in a class by themselves. I am hoping that HU jack can reach that level of success, and if he does he would be the greatest hire since those two giants.

    I already think he is better than gruden or any coach we have had since our Superbowl wining coaches.

    __________________________

    What is it with some of you and gay references? Lol. Something just isn’t adding up. I’m always leery of cats that go right to the gay comments.

    You may not have realized it, but you did crown him. You implied it by saying the last great before HuJak. Could have just left it at the last great.

    It’s all good tho, since you clarified yourself.

  600. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    And I don’t think it would hurt to have Gruden in the process, either, considering he was the only coach to get us to the playoffs somewhat in this era.
    ===================

    It cant be gruden under any circumstance. He isnt qulified for this unique gig.

    think about it. We are known for have a certain type of player, in fact we are known as the only team with this particular theory on players and drafting, The davis theory. hieght wiegt speed , press corners, big nasty line men and so on.

    We are the only team in football that views it this way, therefore no one from out side of that culture would be skilled in being able to idnetify the highly specialized athletes for our particular brand of football.

    we dont want dink and dunk wco. we are not the the browns, niners, redskins, or any other team that is using wco walsh off shoot football model.

    WE ARE RAIDERS AND WE HAVE OUR OWN UNIQUE BRAND OF FOOTBALL!!! I NEVER WANT THIS TO CHANGE OTHERWISE IT ISNT AUTHENTIC RAIDER FOOTBALL ……ITS IMPOSOTOR BALL!!!!

  601. The Big Banana Says:

    You can’t call him better than Gruden tho. Not yet, holmes. I’m afraid the facts get in the way of that one. Show me more wins first. Tho I do think Hue’s a better fit for Davis’ philosophy. So in that regard, yes. But let’s wait a season or two before proclaiming him better. I think he can do it.

  602. Method To My Madness Says:

    600.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:14 am
    # Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    And I don’t think it would hurt to have Gruden in the process, either, considering he was the only coach to get us to the playoffs somewhat in this era.
    ===================

    It cant be gruden under any circumstance. He isnt qulified for this unique gig.

    think about it. We are known for have a certain type of player, in fact we are known as the only team with this particular theory on players and drafting, The davis theory. hieght wiegt speed , press corners, big nasty line men and so on.

    We are the only team in football that views it this way, therefore no one from out side of that culture would be skilled in being able to idnetify the highly specialized athletes for our particular brand of football.

    we dont want dink and dunk wco. we are not the the browns, niners, redskins, or any other team that is using wco walsh off shoot football model.

    WE ARE RAIDERS AND WE HAVE OUR OWN UNIQUE BRAND OF FOOTBALL!!! I NEVER WANT THIS TO CHANGE OTHERWISE IT ISNT AUTHENTIC RAIDER FOOTBALL ……ITS IMPOSOTOR BALL!!!!

    **************************

    Mistic is in CODE BLACK mode

  603. Method To My Madness Says:

    601.The Big Banana Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:15 am
    You can’t call him better than Gruden tho. Not yet, holmes. I’m afraid the facts get in the way of that one. Show me more wins first. Tho I do think Hue’s a better fit for Davis’ philosophy. So in that regard, yes. But let’s wait a season or two before proclaiming him better. I think he can do it.

    **********************

    Gruden had his time and no doubt he was cool for the image thing and bringing life back so i wont dog him completely but that time has passed and the NFL now is different. Gruden is a superstar personality now and I think like Madden he will never coach again. He doesnt have to

  604. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    What is it with some of you and gay references? Lol. Something just isn’t adding up. I’m always leery of cats that go right to the gay comments.

    You may not have realized it, but you did crown him. You implied it by saying the last great before HuJak. Could have just left it at the last great.

    It’s all good tho, since you clarified yourself.
    ===================

    Now you want to play nice? i know who you are you have repeatedly called me names and tried to tell me i dont know what im talking about. yet time and time again you end up looking like a fool.

    spare me the cant we get along bull crap.

    Thats why you are

    bannana in the tail pipe, it wasnt a gey reference its a reference to a line from Beverly hills cop. Implying that your a dumb ass. So why do you instantly think about gey things, when the words banana and tail pipe are mentioned?

  605. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Gruden looks good grilling rook QB’s on the tee vee, and also looks like he enjoys it.

  606. The Big Banana Says:

    I agree, Method. He won’t be back nor do I think he should come back. It’s important to keep to Davis style ball. Otherwise we lose our identity. Whether folks like it or not, Davis = Raiders and Raiders = Davis.

  607. ArmChair GM Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    We will be 6-2 playing SD on thursday night nov 10th
    ________________________________________________________

    Welcome back Brien!

  608. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Whats a Drexl? Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:04 am
    Gruden fatal flaw, he didnt want to be coached by coach Davis, and wanted to remake the raiders in his image.
    ======================
    Why has it been years, and people still do not grasp this concept.

    ——————-

    Gruden just wanted to win and do so the only way he knew how. Don’t think he was trying to hijack the Raiders. My understanding is the rift wa smore contractual than anything. Davis made an offer that Gruden didn’t like and then he got traded.
    ====================

    greg poppa spoke about this yesterday and was very clear that gruden constantly clashed with davis. We also know that gruden wanted to have final say on the roster, it was much bigger than a money issue.

    Gruden would have continued to make this a wco walsh philosophy team. davis grew tired of it, so gruden had to go

  609. The Big Banana Says:

    Lol! Mystic, it’s clear I’ve ruffled your precious feathers. While I don’t remember calling you names like you say, I’ve riled you up pretty good. Must have had something to do with me calling you out for proclaiming the greatness of Troy Smith. Where is he these days, anyway? Lol.

    Oh, and good job of hurling insults rather than responding to anything else in my post.

  610. Method To My Madness Says:

    607.ArmChair GM Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:23 am
    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    We will be 6-2 playing SD on thursday night nov 10th
    ________________________________________________________

    Welcome back Brien!

    ************************

    CODE BLACK…..thanks alot mayne

  611. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    You can’t call him better than Gruden tho. Not yet, holmes. I’m afraid the facts get in the way of that one. Show me more wins first. Tho I do think Hue’s a better fit for Davis’ philosophy. So in that regard, yes. But let’s wait a season or two before proclaiming him better. I think he can do it.
    ==================================

    I think he HU jack is a better hire, and a better fit than Gruden for reasons i have outlined in post 520. It is unfair to judge hu jacks life time achievement as a raider vs gruden because hu jack hasnt had nearly the sample size that gruden does.

  612. Method To My Madness Says:

    608.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:23 am
    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Whats a Drexl? Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:04 am
    Gruden fatal flaw, he didnt want to be coached by coach Davis, and wanted to remake the raiders in his image.
    ======================
    Why has it been years, and people still do not grasp this concept.

    ——————-

    Gruden just wanted to win and do so the only way he knew how. Don’t think he was trying to hijack the Raiders. My understanding is the rift wa smore contractual than anything. Davis made an offer that Gruden didn’t like and then he got traded.
    ====================

    greg poppa spoke about this yesterday and was very clear that gruden constantly clashed with davis. We also know that gruden wanted to have final say on the roster, it was much bigger than a money issue.

    Gruden would have continued to make this a wco walsh philosophy team. davis grew tired of it, so gruden had to go

    **********************

    It didnt help matters that Al cussed him out in front of Jack Gruden after the AFC title game in 2000….Gruden was ready to go then

  613. ghostraiders Says:

    Big banana. … that’s What worries me.. losing the identity of the team… apparently al Davis offered Matt Millen a job in the front office… but millen declined it… I’m sure millen knew it would have been criticized by the fans… but the man is a raider. . There’s no doubt about That. … I’d like to see millen with the raiders in some capacity… not necessarily GM. .. but maybe a consultant. ..

  614. Chris in NY Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:52 am
    That roughing the passer call on Seymour was pure, 100% B.S.

    ___________________________________________________

    But did you hear Schaub’s squeal when he got hit. It might have been worth the 15, still they are going to call that on most QBs.

    ——————-

    Yeah, that was a legit penalty. It’s that Tom Brady rule. Can’t dive at the QB at/below the knees. Five years ago that’s not a penalty. In today’s league though, that’s pretty textbook case.

  615. John Tweedy Says:

    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:53 am
    Wolf and Madden should be heavily consulted on the permanent GM. There’s nobody I trust more than those 2. And there’s nobody I trust less making the decision than Trask.

    ________________________________
    is this your attempt at reverse psychology? Isn’t you Saying hire Madden and Wolf kinda like us telling Denver to rehire Shanarat? A Raider hater such as yourself recommending any “helpful” idea to the Raiders looks like an attempt to steer them away from the idea.

  616. LA to TheBay Says:

    Mistic, I know Gruden did want a saw in the final 53 (which I would consider part of contractual dispute) but he would have been ok with Al drafting and controlling 53 if Al paid him properly. Al was willing to keep Gruden on at a particular price, which Gruden didn’t agree with.

    Gruden was in Al’s ear. They didn’t agree on a player, Gruden would bring in cut ups. There were several players on those teams Al probably would not have normally brought on without Gruden. But to say he was remaking the Raiders in his image goes a bit far, I think.

    Gruden brought wins. Gannon brought wins. Not traditional Davis philosphy, but Al had the final say on all that. They brought us Ws. Don’t see how any Raider fan could not be proud of the Gruden/Gannon years.

  617. LA to TheBay Says:

    a say*

  618. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Lol! Mystic, it’s clear I’ve ruffled your precious feathers. While I don’t remember calling you names like you say, I’ve riled you up pretty good. Must have had something to do with me calling you out for proclaiming the greatness of Troy Smith. Where is he these days, anyway? Lol.

    Oh, and good job of hurling insults rather than responding to anything else in my post.
    ==================

    Of course you cant remember telling about grads, or dhb, or JC.

    You took a beating on these topics.

  619. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    ghostraiders Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Big banana. … that’s What worries me.. losing the identity of the team… apparently al Davis offered Matt Millen a job in the front office… but millen declined it… I’m sure millen knew it would have been criticized by the fans… but the man is a raider. . There’s no doubt about That. … I’d like to see millen with the raiders in some capacity… not necessarily GM. .. but maybe a consultant. ..
    ===================
    The same article said Millen declined because he was burn’t out from the Detroit job. Perhaps he is rejuvenated now.

  620. ghostraiders Says:

    Method. .. ..I heard Tim brown talking about gruden on radio.. brown recalls being stunned to hear gruden say… ” the NFL will never let you guys win here”… it was after the tuck rule game…. first its disheartening to hear your coach say that you can’t win. .second. .gruden said. . You…instead of we… fk gruden. .. don’t want anywhere near this team… besides he’s a buccaneer. . Fk him..

  621. The Big Banana Says:

    I agree, Ghost. While all of us may not have agreed with 100% of Davis’ decisions, he is ultimately the reason we are Raider fans. Even folks that blasted him in here daily. He created the Raiders that we love so much, and it’s pretty upsetting to think that it might change. Buti have confidence in Mark and Amy that they will keepthe spirit of Davis alive. Let’s hope so, anyway.

  622. LA to TheBay Says:

    Mistic was a runner up for Best Raider Fan Ever (behind perennial champion Plunketthead), so you can;t fault him for passion.

    Mistic:

    IMPOSTER FANS BEWARE! The ghost of Al Davis and his hand-picked succesor Hue Jack are marching on your trampled, feeble forms as we speak!

  623. Method To My Madness Says:

    615.John Tweedy Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:30 am
    Sullivan44 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:53 am
    Wolf and Madden should be heavily consulted on the permanent GM. There’s nobody I trust more than those 2. And there’s nobody I trust less making the decision than Trask.

    ________________________________
    is this your attempt at reverse psychology? Isn’t you Saying hire Madden and Wolf kinda like us telling Denver to rehire Shanarat? A Raider hater such as yourself recommending any “helpful” idea to the Raiders looks like an attempt to steer them away from the idea.

    ********************

    he is a little punk and manipulator but that crap dont work here…we know you hate us…but guess what we hate you double

  624. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Mistic, I know Gruden did want a saw in the final 53 (which I would consider part of contractual dispute) but he would have been ok with Al drafting and controlling 53 if Al paid him properly. Al was willing to keep Gruden on at a particular price, which Gruden didn’t agree with.

    Gruden was in Al’s ear. They didn’t agree on a player, Gruden would bring in cut ups. There were several players on those teams Al probably would not have normally brought on without Gruden. But to say he was remaking the Raiders in his image goes a bit far, I think.

    Gruden brought wins. Gannon brought wins. Not traditional Davis philosphy, but Al had the final say on all that. They brought us Ws. Don’t see how any Raider fan could not be proud of the Gruden/Gannon years.
    ……..

    Dont get me wrong it was fun winning, but i couldnt shake the idea that gannon would eventually flop and not being able to go deep would raelly hurt us and it did.

    I put an asterisk by this era, it didnt win a superbowl, and was not real raider football. in the long run falls short of greatness.

    The constant fighting between al and gruden has been let out of the bag, this is the real reason he was traded.

    he could have had it all, but he didnt want davis involved.

  625. ghostraiders Says:

    Drexl. .. I loved the way millen played… he was passionate about playing for the Raiders. … as unpopular as the decision to hire him at some capacity would be… I think it would be good!! It beats hiring gruden. …

  626. LA to TheBay Says:

    The same article said Millen declined because he was burn’t out from the Detroit job. Perhaps he is rejuvenated now.
    ——-

    B@uce, you have a new seek and destroy mission.

  627. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    Sully has disappeared, Alex7 will log in momentarily I’m sure.

  628. Method To My Madness Says:

    622.LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:36 am
    Mistic was a runner up for Best Raider Fan Ever (behind perennial champion Plunketthead), so you can;t fault him for passion.

    Mistic:

    IMPOSTER FANS BEWARE! The ghost of Al Davis and his hand-picked succesor Hue Jack are marching on your trampled, feeble forms as we speak!
    *************************

    Yep “fans”….I couldnt relate to one

  629. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Not only do these dudes cross post, but then they have mock disagreements. Staged in an attempt to throw us off the scent.

    what a joke

  630. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Matt Millen?

    He made the Lions worse through the years (2001 to 2008) with the 0-16 climax in 08!

    Must be the worse GM of all time.

  631. The Big Banana Says:

    Of course you cant remember telling about grads, or dhb, or JC.

    __________

    Never proclaimed Grads to be a great, like you do with Soup. Just that he wad a better choice at the time. Truth be told, neither are the answer and I was clear about that.

    So what about Soup and DHB? Are they lighting the world on fire? DHB has had 2 good games. Good for him, I’m glad. Let’s see if he can keep it up and I’ll gladly eat crow. Soup, on the other hand…still not seeing the greatness you speak of.

  632. Method To My Madness Says:

    626.LA to TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:37 am
    The same article said Millen declined because he was burn’t out from the Detroit job. Perhaps he is rejuvenated now.
    ——-

    B@uce, you have a new seek and destroy mission.

    *******************

    Millen is all good with me

  633. Method To My Madness Says:

    629.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Not only do these dudes cross post, but then they have mock disagreements. Staged in an attempt to throw us off the scent.

    what a joke

    ***********************

    Yep….one in particular is a self admitted troll

  634. DMAC Says:

    Wassup peoples!

  635. DMAC Says:

    So Al hit the field on the last play? 11th man?

  636. Whats a Drexl? Says:

    DMAC Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    So Al hit the field on the last play? 11th man?
    =====================
    It would appear so.

  637. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Ron Wolf is 73, Madden must be 75…Would much rather have a younger person in the front office. Gruden with Lombardi of Gannon could work for me…Dont understand the hate for the Gruden/Gannon years. Kickeed everybody’s butt, had swagger, were mean azz finishers.

  638. Method To My Madness Says:

    DMAC!

  639. DMAC Says:

    Wassup B

  640. DMAC Says:

    Season-ticket holders were sent an e-mail that said, “Your guests, will be our guests” with instructions on how to get two additional tickets. The allotment of tickets was exhausted within 24 hours, and no more complimentary tickets remain
    =========
    Anybody want to sell me 2 tix?
    Anybody?

  641. Method To My Madness Says:

    Gruden is a WCO coach…Gannon is a WCO qb….their time is up and we are moving on….those werent glory years so no need to sit back and reflect on it as if we won…its akin to the Money Ball crap movie

  642. DMAC Says:

    Anybody?

  643. The Big Banana Says:

    Sup DMAC. What you got for me this week? My fantasy team is counting on you.

  644. Method To My Madness Says:

    640.DMAC Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:48 am
    Season-ticket holders were sent an e-mail that said, “Your guests, will be our guests” with instructions on how to get two additional tickets. The allotment of tickets was exhausted within 24 hours, and no more complimentary tickets remain
    =========
    Anybody want to sell me 2 tix?
    Anybody?

    ************************

    Hmmmmm….let me check into that bruh and ask around…ya never know….but this game will be packed wont be too much brown and orange colors there

  645. DMAC Says:

    Please do so

  646. DMAC Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Sup DMAC. What you got for me this week? My fantasy team is counting on you.
    ========
    Big fk’n #’s!!!!!!!!

  647. DMAC Says:

    I’ll be back playerz

  648. hwnrdr Says:

    I would DMAC, but never got that email…will have to question that one!
    B…funny about the Mone Ball movie…my Giants fan friend told me he loved it, or maybe he was being sarcastic!

  649. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Well Nation, we got our work cut out for us this Sunday, conserve your voice, talk in a whisper; cause Sunday we need to bring the thunder of the 12th man. The Motor City fans set the mark of 9 false starts, I think we can do better…

  650. Method To My Madness Says:

    648.hwnrdr Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    I would DMAC, but never got that email…will have to question that one!
    B…funny about the Mone Ball movie…my Giants fan friend told me he loved it, or maybe he was being sarcastic!

    ******************************

    Fk that movie…we lost to twins at home in first round….i dont celebrate that

  651. Method To My Madness Says:

    649.DutchRaider77 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am
    Well Nation, we got our work cut out for us this Sunday, conserve your voice, talk in a whisper; cause Sunday we need to bring the thunder of the 12th man. The Motor City fans set the mark of 9 false starts, I think we can do better…

    ***************************

    13th man….Al is always there

  652. hwnrdr Says:

    650.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am
    648.hwnrdr Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    I would DMAC, but never got that email…will have to question that one!
    B…funny about the Mone Ball movie…my Giants fan friend told me he loved it, or maybe he was being sarcastic!

    ******************************

    Fk that movie…we lost to twins at home in first round….i dont celebrate that

    I know…never undserstood why they made a movie on Beane…he didn’t win anything!

  653. Silverandblack666 Says:

    People you need to understand that a GM is not just a warm body you can throw into office and expect success.

    A Gm needs to have a legal or financial background, a nerd not an ex athlete that has close ties to the organization.

    Did you see what happened when Matt Millen was GM in Detroit?

    A Gm needs to be a business man with a firm understanding of contracts and the legal aspects of contracts not some washed up athlete or old buddy.

    This is not something you trust anyone with this is a big deal.

    So stop the Madden and Gannon whoever else you suggest we hire talk because its ridiculous to think you could take just any old body off the streets to do this job.

  654. Method To My Madness Says:

    Who we gonna bring in for GM? I dont care really. Al is my GM and my coach

  655. hwnrdr Says:

    How about a football guy with Trask presiding over the legal stuff…hey just throwing it out there…

  656. hwnrdr Says:

    654.Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
    Who we gonna bring in for GM? I dont care really. Al is my GM and my coach

    AMEN!

  657. ArmChair GM Says:

    I’m gonna admit I don’t know much about Millen.

    Can somebody please explain to me why a dude that went 0-16 should even be considered as our GM?

    I really want to be educated about this, seriously.

  658. Method To My Madness Says:

    164.JB Says:
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
    It will be nice when all of our offensive weapons are 100% healthy, available & on duty.

    • Soup
    • DMac
    • Bush
    • TJones
    • Reece
    • Boss
    • DHB
    • Ford
    • D-WOW!
    • Schilins
    • Hagan
    • Murphy

    This is one large boatload of offensive power. When they all get on the same page – LOOKOUT!

    ******************************

    And we will win

  659. hwnrdr Says:

    I’m still waiting for Papa to scream, TOUCHDOWWWWWWWNNNNNN TAIWAN!

  660. The Big Banana Says:

    LA To TheBay Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:36 am
    Mistic was a runner up for Best Raider Fan Ever (behind perennial champion Plunketthead), so you can;t fault him for passion.

    Mistic:

    IMPOSTER FANS BEWARE! The ghost of Al Davis and his hand-picked succesor Hue Jack are marching on your trampled, feeble forms as we speak!

    _______________

    Puhlease. Grow some nuts, LA.

    Mistic’s definition of imposter is anyone with criticism towards the players he loves. I seem to remember you being critical of Soup. And Method makes his displeasure with DHB well known in here. Gee, the very 2 players I criticized last year. Welcome to the imposter club…

    I can appreciate passion, just don’t be stupid about it. Plenty of passionate fans in here that are real about our players abilities.

  661. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    our guys will know better than to take this game lightly. it will carry an over-whelming attitude cause of Als’ passing.
    Run DMC will get over 175 AND JC throws over 300.
    RAIDERS will rise!

    RAIDER FAQHIN NATION!

  662. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Interesting facts

    phillip rivers 125/186 67.2 cmp %1536 yards 8.26 yard per att 6td 7int 4 fumbles rating of 87.6

    orton 91/155 58.7 cmp% 979 yards 6.32 yard per att
    8td 7int 2 fumbles rating 75.7

    cassel 93/140 66.4cmp% 945 yards 6.7 yards per att
    8td 5int 2 fumbles rating of 89.7

    Jc 94/156 60.3 1118 yards 7.17 yards per att
    6td ( 2 rushing td 8 total) 4int 1 fumble 84.3 rating

    Looks like Jc is on par with any qb in our division.
    he only trails rivers in cmp % yards and rating, but he has less turnovers, and throws the ball down field more than rivers.

    In fact “captain check down” is leading the afc west in throwing down field, and turns the ball over less than any qb in the division.

    Jc has the best td to turn over ratio in the division as well. rivers is the only other qb to have a rushing td giving him 7td / 11 turnovers. Jc has 8td/ 5 turnovers.

    Dont look now but at this moment we are being treated to the best qb play in the afc west!

  663. Method To My Madness Says:

    “I’m in my sneaks with freaks on the beach was shallow
    Bossed up drinkin Ernest and Julio Gallo
    I got my rallo?? My butterfly knife
    I’m nothin nice
    I cut a guy twice(MR)”

  664. r8dercain Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:55 am
    People you need to understand that a GM is not just a warm body you can throw into office and expect success.

    A Gm needs to have a legal or financial background, a nerd not an ex athlete that has close ties to the organization.

    Did you see what happened when Matt Millen was GM in Detroit?

    A Gm needs to be a business man with a firm understanding of contracts and the legal aspects of contracts not some washed up athlete or old buddy.

    This is not something you trust anyone with this is a big deal.

    So stop the Madden and Gannon whoever else you suggest we hire talk because its ridiculous to think you could take just any old body off the streets to do this job.
    ________________________
    AAAAmen bruh!
    Let’s just ride on the aleventh man for now!!

  665. r8eray Says:

    Method To My Madness Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 11:11 am
    “I’m in my sneaks with freaks on the beach was shallow
    Bossed up drinkin Ernest and Julio Gallo
    I got my rallo?? My butterfly knife
    I’m nothin nice
    I cut a guy twice(MR)”

    ——-

    “I said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
    to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
    the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat!!”

    ;)

  666. Tjbwall Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillin,

    You are looking at the safest qb in our division

    You cannot say Campbell is the best qb in our division with a straight face

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