Size, speed, draft status still king in Oakland
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 at 3:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.
If you’re looking for signs of how things might change in light of the passing of managing general partner Al Davis, the first evidence came in the form of increased blitzing against the Houston Texans on Sunday.
However, the trade for outside linebacker Aaron Curry on Wednesday is proof that some things aren’t going to change anytime soon.
Curry was the fourth pick of the 2009 NFL draft by the Seattle Seahawks. The Raiders used the No. 7 pick of that draft on wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Many of the so-called draft experts regarded Curry as the best athlete in the draft that year. Sports Illustrated’s Peter King said Davis wanted Curry in a big way.
Well, the Raiders now have Curry. That gives the Raiders seven first-round draft picks on defense and 12 overall on their 53-man roster.
It remains to be seen how Curry will be used. He is fast, athletic, talented and versatile. At the same time, he arrives with a reputation for lacking football instincts.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson didn’t mention the trade during his news conference after practice. None of the players seemed aware of the transaction, either.
BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK AT RAIDERS-TEXANS GAME ON VERSUS
The good folk at Versus television not only are featuring a behind-the-scenes look at the Raiders-Texans game Thursday at 7 and 10 p.m. PDT on “Turning Point,” but they provided a sneak peek for you to look at beforehand.
Here is the link, with a huge thank you to Versus for providing the advance clip. Enjoy:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d82310dff/Turning-Point-Raiders-vs-Texans
PENALTIES PROBLEM PERSISTS
Try though he may, coach Hue Jackson can’t seem to get a handle on the Raiders penchant for committing penalties at an alarming rate.
They committed 11 for 89 yards against the Houston Texans on Sunday. That upped their totals to 50 for 445 yards through five games.
The Raiders lead the league by six over runner-up Tampa Bay and by 85 yards over the Buccaneers and Arizona Cardinals.
Once again, Jackson enlisted the services of three local officials at practice Wednesday.
BROWNS WOWED BY MCFADDEN
Add the Cleveland Browns to the ever-growing list of believers in Raiders running back Darren McFadden being, perhaps, the league’s best all-around back.
Browns linebacker Scott Fujita played against McFadden during the early part of McFadden’s career, when he looked nothing like the explosive player he was at Arkansas. He said the McFadden he sees on videotape now is an eye-opener.
“He looks like a different guy,” Fujita said. “He is running hungry and he is playing with a lot of swagger right now. He is such a big, physical guy, if you let him get to the perimeter and he gets in the open field, the things he’s doing with the ball
right now are very impressive. He’s obviously got big home-run speed and he just seems so strong, taking on tacklers and stiff-arming the hell out of everybody.”
Browns coach Pat Shurmur is equally impressed. He says McFadden can’t be stopped. The key is limiting the damage he does.
“I don’t know why he wouldn’t be (regarded as) one of the best runners in the league,” Shurmur said. “He’s very, very dangerous. When you give the ball or toss the ball or throw the ball to somebody that can go the distance, then you’ve got a running back that can change the game. That’s what he gives the Raiders.”
RAIDERS INJURIES UPDATE
Here’s Jackson’s recitation of the injury report from practice Wednesday: “Murphy, full. Satele limited. Cartwright did not participate. Reece did not participate. Gordon did not participate. Myers, full. Campbell, full. McClain did not participate. Seymour, limited. Shaughnessy did not participate. Chekwa did not participate. Giordano, full. Huff, limited. CJohnson, limited. Mitchell, full.”
In summary, the six who didn’t participate, at this point are the ones who aren’t expected to play Sunday against the Browns. That could change if any of them return to practice Thursday or Friday. Jackson doesn’t like using players in games if they don’t practice the week before.
SEABASS TAKES IT NICE AND EASY
Kicking a football 50 yards or longer is no different to Sebastian Janikowski than one from 30 or 40 yards, he said. He takes the same approach, same leg swing, everything.
That works for him, whereas few others have been able to match his distance, consistency and accuracy. He converted all three of his field-goal attempts from 50 yards and longer Sunday, making him 5-of-6 from that range this season.
“I had a good warm-up and kicking in a dome was really nice,” Janikowski said. “It’s always better there. I was stroking the ball really nice. I didn’t know it was going to be 3 for 3 on 50s.”
For his efforts, Janikowski was named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week.
“It feels really good to know that you go on the other side of the 50(-yard line), you got a guy, if you look at him, he goes, ‘OK, you say go kick it,’ ” Jackson said. “That’s how good he is. I don’t want to jinx him. The guy’s a tremendous player, and I have so much confidence in him.”
Shurmur calls Janikowski a threat any time the Raiders reach midfield.
“You can’t let them cross midfield,” Shurmur said. “That’s the thing. He’s got a strong leg. I watched the game the other night, the Houston game, and watched it on TV. It’s just amazing how string his leg is and how accurate it is from a long way away. You just have to count on the fact that once the Raiders cross midfield they have a chance to get three points.”
PRYOR MAKES 2011 DEBUT
Rookie quarterback Terrelle Pryor practiced with his teammates Wednesday for the first time since his five-game suspension ended.
Jackson said he is eager to get a long look at Pryor and get a feel for what he can do. Quarterback Jason Campbell said Pryor isn’t afraid to assert himself in meetings.
“He talks,” Campbell said. “He’s really quiet but, at the same time, he still talks. He’ll come up with suggestions. He’ll write it on the board – ‘I think we should do this on this play.’ So I said, ‘What are you our consultant now?’ ”
Pryor talks in meetings, but he has spoken with the Bay Area media only once since he was taken in the third round of the supplemental draft in late August.
For the second time this week, he declined an interview request. He said today that he was late for a meeting.
NON-STORY GETS LEGS
Three weeks ago, people latched on to New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez eating a hot dog on the sideline of a game against the Raiders in 2009.
The non-story of the week this week is that the Raiders had only 10 players on the field for the final play of the Houston Texans game Sunday.
It’s a non-story because free safety Michael Huff intercepted Matt Schaub’s pass in the end zone to preserve the Raiders 25-20 victory.
Now, had Schaub completed the pass for a game-winning touchdown, it would have been quite a story, indeed.
“I’m just glad it worked out the way it did,” cornerback Stanford Routt said. “If it didn’t, boy, that’d be an ugly Monday morning.”
Again, the Raiders still won the game, folks, and improved to 3-2. That’s the real story.
For the record, it was backup safety Jerome Boyd who was supposed to be on the field for the final play. He and safety Mike Mitchell were assigned to double team tight end Joel Dreessen. As it were, Mitchell handled the job by himself.
Boyd said he saw two defensive linemen run on the field before the final play and only one coming out.
“It was just a miscommunication,” Boyd said. “I didn’t want to be an extra person on the field.”
End of non-story.
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October 12th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
B@uce is the king
October 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
The Seahawks have a really nice fan blog, always plenty of info, this is some of the lastest stuff on Aaron Curry, prior to the trade:
Aparently, they have changed some stuff on Defense from last year and it has not benefited Curry’s game.
They feel Curry is very good playing near the line of scrimmage, getting off blocks and lining up over the TE…but has trouble playing zone coverage.
Here it is:
“This scheme change has meant that Curry has been asked to run and drop back into pass coverage more and set the edge in run support on the strongside less.
Curry’s strength is on the latter – he’s a beast at breaking off blocks and matching up against tight ends but has trouble with his feel and instincts in zone pass coverage.
K.J. Wright’s main strengths are just that — he was heralded for his instincts and length in zone coverage coming out and that’s most likely why we’re seeing him get more snaps in the Seahawks changing defense.
- Per the Seahawks’ press conference on Wednesday, Pete Carroll noted about Aaron Curry,
“He’s really stout at the line of scrimmage, he’s really good on the tight end. He’s a brute of a guy when we play him on blockers, at getting off of blockers.
And that’s the stuff that he’s been the best at. He’s big and fast and he hits you. He’s got all that. He’s got a lot of talents.
We’ve moved him a round a little bit. If you’ve noticed, we’re not on the line of scrimmage as much as we’ve been in the past (with the Sam linebacker), and that doesn’t give him the opportunity to do some of those special things.
But he understands the scheme and knows what’s going on and he’s going to battle his way back.”
Curry struggled to adapt to the NFL game after being considered by many to be the ’safest’ pick in the Draft that year out of Wake Forest.
There aren’t many people out there that didn’t applaud the pick at the time but as it goes, hindsight is 20-20.
His critics would point out that he lacks instincts in the zone and is a step slow in coverage ability but he’s proven to be strong against the run and on holding the edge against tight ends.
The Seahawks have moved away from the ‘under’ front they used a lot last year, with Curry up on the line of scrimmage and acting as a force on the strongside edge.
This season, the Hawks are featuring more looks with the linebackers back off the line and playing in space, and it appears that Curry really didn’t have a place on this team.”
October 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
word,,,,,,,,
October 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
As it were, Mitchell handled the job by himself.
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We got a fkin team! Get on board or get the fk on!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
No he’s your replacement.
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He’s really quiet but, at the same time, he still talks. He’ll come up with suggestions. He’ll write it on the board – ‘I think we should do this on this play.’ So I said, ‘What are you our consultant now?’ ”
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Looks like McLain wont be playing this week…Curry may be next man up…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
What was Pryor’s recommendation? Maybe NOT throw the ball out of bounds on the regular ?
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He’s really quiet but, at the same time, he still talks. He’ll come up with suggestions. He’ll write it on the board – ‘I think we should do this on this play.’ So I said, ‘What are you our consultant now?’ ”
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Interesting to see what we do with Curry…..B@uce believes they make Wimbley more permanent at RDE and Curry play SLB….just a thought
October 12th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
What was Pryor’s recommendation? Maybe NOT throw the ball out of bounds on the regular ?
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LOL
October 12th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Whos going to play Mike if MCClain cant go code blackstock?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Interesting to see what we do with Curry…..B@uce believes they make Wimbley more permanent at RDE and Curry play SLB….just a thought
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Run Def. would be disguisting. On 3rd downs yes, but a perminant role wouldn’t work, especially when schaugnessy gets back
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
6.Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Looks like McLain wont be playing this week…Curry may be next man up…
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It may just very well be Curry-Groves-Wimbley this week…..we will shut that edge down more I believe.
He is a great player get over it
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Curry is in his third season with the Seahawks, who chose him No. 4 overall in 2009. He lost his starting job to K.J. Wright last month, but the two players continued to split time at strongside linebacker.
Curry started 30 games in his three seasons in Seattle. He had an incredible impact his first five games as a rookie in 2009 with two sacks and a forced fumble. He only had 3.5 sacks the remainder of his Seahawks career.
He played in all 16 games last season, and was an effective run defender, manhandling opposing tight ends. This season, Seattle switched its defensive format, and instead of lining up on top at the line of scrimmage, he was playing off the ball. He played one of his most consistent games as a Seahawk during the season-opener but after Week 2 at Pittsburgh when he dropped an interception that could have been returned for a touchdown, he was leapfrogged by Wright on the depth chart.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
question now is who goes? I vote myers off the island…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
JaSoup better quit trying to crack jokes and stop with the INT’s & near misses, throw the ball in the field of play!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Whos going to play Mike if MCClain cant go code blackstock?
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He played last game a bit, & in pre-season he was the backup after Geothel went down
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
11.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Interesting to see what we do with Curry…..B@uce believes they make Wimbley more permanent at RDE and Curry play SLB….just a thought
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Run Def. would be disguisting. On 3rd downs yes, but a perminant role wouldn’t work, especially when schaugnessy gets back
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Exactly why would run defense stink?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
“He’s really stout at the line of scrimmage, he’s really good on the tight end. He’s a brute of a guy when we play him on blockers, at getting off of blockers.
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Crap. That’s a whole lot more than our LB corp of the last 7 yrs. How many LB’s have we had that can get off the block consistently? Curry is going to thrive here. So excited.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
15.MistaBrown Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
JaSoup better quit trying to crack jokes and stop with the INT’s & near misses, throw the ball in the field of play!
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JC says to Mista….”we can handle this anyway you want”
October 12th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
He is a great player get over it
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Ok Coach…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
18.aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
“He’s really stout at the line of scrimmage, he’s really good on the tight end. He’s a brute of a guy when we play him on blockers, at getting off of blockers.
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Crap. That’s a whole lot more than our LB corp of the last 7 yrs. How many LB’s have we had that can get off the block consistently? Curry is going to thrive here. So excited.
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Glad to see some excitement but can JC consistently hit the deep ball now? Even im getting pissed at that
October 12th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
question now is who goes? I vote myers off the island…
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2 need to go for Pyror to come too
I vote Meyers and Porter if Dvd/Chek are healthy OR Tonga if Reece/Gordan get healthy
October 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
His critics would point out that he lacks instincts in the zone and is a step slow in coverage ability but he’s proven to be strong against the run and on holding the edge against tight ends.
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strong against the run, i’m sold
October 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
LOL
tj’s best contribution to the blog by far!
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# Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
JC says to Mista….”we can handle this anyway you want”
October 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
If Waufle can use Kiwanuka at RDE, he can use Wimbley. Would allow the Raiders to move Shaughnessy to LDE and Houston to 3-tech DE.
Run-defense wise, it’s not much worse than asking Wimbley to seal the edge and cover as a SAM LB. If anything the 4-3 DE position plays more to his strengths than the 4-3 SAM LB spot.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
with MM34 balling gio and myers…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
myers wow what can you say….
October 12th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
22.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
question now is who goes? I vote myers off the island…
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2 need to go for Pyror to come too
I vote Meyers and Porter if Dvd/Chek are healthy OR Tonga if Reece/Gordan get healthy
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Porter and I doubt Meyers gets axed…Tonga shouldnt be cut but who knows…he is our truest FB i think its bad in taste to do that
October 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Method to my Madness,
Kam is a mere 260 Lbs which is why Des. Bryant took over as Base De vs Houston and did very well
Its not always about who can rush the passer better
October 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Thec, this week is Fords coming out party just thought you should know.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Al was the 11th man on the field.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
I hope the defensive line continues to knock down passes.
They were amazing on Sunday.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
25.YoungAmerican Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
If Waufle can use Kiwanuka at RDE, he can use Wimbley. Would allow the Raiders to move Shaughnessy to LDE and Houston to 3-tech DE.
Run-defense wise, it’s not much worse than asking Wimbley to seal the edge and cover as a SAM LB. If anything the 4-3 DE position plays more to his strengths than the 4-3 SAM LB spot.
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Agreed but some of your strategy would be next season……Kelly is our UT plus Seymour plays that too when Hendu is playing the NT
I say
wimbley-hendu-seymour-houston
grove mcclain curry
routt huff branch/mitchell and whoever at cb
October 12th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Curry forced 4 fumbles the last two seasons.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
porter and boyd?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Thec, this week is Fords coming out party just thought you should know.
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Yeah, stick his A$$ in the slot….
He needs to step up…
He is mising something this year…
Injuries, needs to get his ame legs under him….
cushing beastin on him didn’t help either…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
“Oaklands latest resurrection selection Aaron Curry hopes he can do like so many before him and re-ignite a stalled career with his new team, the Raiders.”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
October 12th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Wimbley, Groves and now Curry. Hope he works out as well
October 12th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
The guys on Sirius NFL Radio just said they dont think McFadden can get it done verse the brownies, their DTs and MLB are too strong. LMAO…
I hope DMAC hears that and goes for 200 and 3tds
October 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
say
wimbley-hendu-seymour-houston
grove mcclain curry
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rather have Moss over Wimbley at the edge, stop the run ya know
October 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
curry needs to earn his stripes and make coach proud that he is part of the NATION…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
29.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Method to my Madness,
Kam is a mere 260 Lbs which is why Des. Bryant took over as Base De vs Houston and did very well
Its not always about who can rush the passer better
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At RDE it is….thats his main job function
October 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
having wimbley playing end is like d burgess playing end, might get some sacks but get’s pushed around in run game
October 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
40.inonewordraider Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
say
wimbley-hendu-seymour-houston
grove mcclain curry
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rather have Moss over Wimbley at the edge, stop the run ya know
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I can see that…pretty interchangeable i say
October 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Love the Curry trade. We need help big time at LB. This guy can contribute immediately, especially against the run. D just got better today. Wonder how much money is left on his contract?? – usually most of its paid by the 2nd year so hopefully he’s getting near league minimum. This guy was considered the #1 LB and some thought the best player in the ‘09 draft and we get him for peanuts. Hopefully, he can play like Moss has so far and stand up to his potential.
This also tells me that ShoNasty might be IR’d and they move Wimbley to starting end on run downs.
Go RAIDERS! Can’t wait for Sunday!!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
sippin martinis, eatin scampi and linguini
makin blunts disapear….like im houdini
October 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Our Dline played very well this week because they didnt just rush up the field past the play. They held their gaps and occupied the blockers at the LOS allowing the backers to make plays. They need to stick to that game plan all year. You cant beat us if you cant run on us.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
43.inonewordraider Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
having wimbley playing end is like d burgess playing end, might get some sacks but get’s pushed around in run game
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I’m sorry but i dont see that….Burgess couldnt play RDE at all and wimbley got experience as a LB in nfl…..he would do better than burgess
October 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
browns D cannot be as good as houstons…Need to go and watch some film…DMAC only had what 16 carries, and if it wasnt for that phantom holding penalty on CC he would have busted a bill…
f sirius radio, and philip rivers…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
46.GaterRaider Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
sippin martinis, eatin scampi and linguini
makin blunts disapear….like im houdini
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GATER!….you mthfuka….hell u been at dude?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Kiwanuka is 6′5 270 well known for plugging gaps
Wimbley is 6′4 255 well known for rushing the passer
You cannot plug Wimbley in at Rde perminantly and not expect for every team to rush at him every down
October 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
49.Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
browns D cannot be as good as houstons…Need to go and watch some film…DMAC only had what 16 carries, and if it wasnt for that phantom holding penalty on CC he would have busted a bill…
f sirius radio, and philip rivers…
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Obviously
October 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
51.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Kiwanuka is 6′5 270 well known for plugging gaps
Wimbley is 6′4 255 well known for rushing the passer
You cannot plug Wimbley in at Rde perminantly and not expect for every team to rush at him every down
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we still lack a guy from blindside…thats imperative to a defense
October 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
47.bcz24 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Our Dline played very well this week because they didnt just rush up the field past the play. They held their gaps and occupied the blockers at the LOS allowing the backers to make plays. They need to stick to that game plan all year. You cant beat us if you cant run on us.
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Hendu!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Last game we had Des. Bryant at Rde and guess what the Raiders stopped the run game.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
So who made the trade for Curry? Can’t be Al.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
curry playing the Goethel role: best at MLB so will back up Mcclain but gna try to out play Groves or Wimbley in order to start
October 12th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
browns coming in off a bye after gettin their heads bashed in by tenn…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
This is why I hope Mark Davis fires Trask. Trask and Herrera out, you basically have all the dead wood gone. Sky’s the limit.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
man it wont let me POST! w the eff!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Bause, dont get me started with JC. Dude is starting to remind me of Jay Schroeder. Missing deep and not clutch.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
55.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Last game we had Des. Bryant at Rde and guess what the Raiders stopped the run game.
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Not all game he was there…Des bryant aint gonna get consistent edge rush week to week…you know that
October 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Sweet! We surely need Aaron Curry’s services. Welcome to the Black Hole A. Curry! Long Live the Raiders! Thank You for looking over us in Heaven Mr. Allen Davis. Just Win Baby!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
51.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Kiwanuka is 6′5 270 well known for plugging gaps
Wimbley is 6′4 255 well known for rushing the passer
You cannot plug Wimbley in at Rde perminantly and not expect for every team to rush at him every down
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we still lack a guy from blindside…thats imperative to a defense
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Wimbley? Moss? not to mention that not many teams have players like Seymour/Kelly or Houston who also sees time as Nt
October 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
mccoy threw 61 times against tenn…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Ok so we hear that he is stout against the run, can get off blocks and struggle in zone.
We need an LB that can get off the block and play the run. We hardly play zone. I think we are good to go. Dude will flourish in our system. Hue will have the same conversation with him that he did with DMAC. What do you like best?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
lol. Herman Cain now ahead in the GOP polls.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
don’t do it…
October 12th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Method to my Madness,
1st & 2nd down Des was in there as Rde/Sey/Kelly/Hendu rotated as Dt with Houston at Lde
3rd and long situation is when Moss & Wimbley take the edges with Houstion/Kelly/Sey inside
If it aint broke don’t fix it
October 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
61.aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Bause, dont get me started with JC. Dude is starting to remind me of Jay Schroeder. Missing deep and not clutch.
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Jay sucked….JC aint trash like that but the deep ball is pissing me off…the chaz and dmoore plays was inexcusable but he did get the win but he cant msis those
October 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
69.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Method to my Madness,
1st & 2nd down Des was in there as Rde/Sey/Kelly/Hendu rotated as Dt with Houston at Lde
3rd and long situation is when Moss & Wimbley take the edges with Houstion/Kelly/Sey inside
If it aint broke don’t fix it
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We shall see…i just dont see des bryant vs an elite LT doing much…but i appreciate his hard work sunday no doubt
October 12th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
time too escape…check you RAIDERS ltr….
1 NATION
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
So, who pulled the trigger on the Curry trade? Doesn’t sound like a Jackson move. Mark Davis, please fire Amy Trask. And that other stench, Herrera.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
66.aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Ok so we hear that he is stout against the run, can get off blocks and struggle in zone.
We need an LB that can get off the block and play the run. We hardly play zone. I think we are good to go. Dude will flourish in our system. Hue will have the same conversation with him that he did with DMAC. What do you like best?
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Agreed
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Don’t do it mayne….
October 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Pre draft 2009
“Like the Chiefs finally realized with Derrick Johnson, hopefully the NFL team that drafts Curry will do likewise and play him in the middle. He has very good athleticism making plays in front of him, but bites often on play-action, lacks good depth playing in the zone and is a bit too stiff to generate the sideline-to-sideline range to make impact plays on the outside, where he struggles to stop the runner’s forward momentum. He can clog the rush lanes when he stays low in his pads. Put him inside in a 3-4 alignment and he can be equally productive getting to the quarterback as he did in college. Play him on the outside and he will be exposed in a quick and deep passing game.”
October 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
64.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
51.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Kiwanuka is 6′5 270 well known for plugging gaps
Wimbley is 6′4 255 well known for rushing the passer
You cannot plug Wimbley in at Rde perminantly and not expect for every team to rush at him every down
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we still lack a guy from blindside…thats imperative to a defense
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Wimbley? Moss? not to mention that not many teams have players like Seymour/Kelly or Houston who also sees time as Nt
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Lamarr never seen time at NT
October 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
75.Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Don’t do it mayne….
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lmao
October 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
75.Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Don’t do it mayne….
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lmao
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I see you B….
October 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Move McClain to weakside LB and put Curry as MLB
October 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Uh oh sully is back , where’s rob at?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
62.Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
55.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Last game we had Des. Bryant at Rde and guess what the Raiders stopped the run game.
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Not all game he was there…Des bryant aint gonna get consistent edge rush week to week…you know that
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It was more that the Texans chose NOT to run
October 12th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
79.Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
75.Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Don’t do it mayne….
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lmao
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I see you B….
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I hate that mthfka
October 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Brownies d is allowing 23.2 points a game and are ranked 13th with four games played.
Whilst the Raids are allowing 26.6 points a game and are ranked 28th with five games played.
Brownies first four games, Cinncy, Indy, Miami, and Tenn.
The quarterback needs to go down, and go down hard, and I don’t care which one of the beasts do it.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
77. He does. And when Houston Plays DT on pass plays his hand speed low pads and power dominate Guards
October 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Yes move curry put curry in middle and move McLain outside draft burfict kid next year
October 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Progressive snapshot spy device? Go **** yourselves
October 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
great trade, now we should trade for Rodgers-Cromartie
October 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
So who made the trade for Curry? Can’t be Al.
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Al’s ghost. Hangin around cuz he has some unfinished business. Oh, and also just to haunt you.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
GoofOle00,
Houston avg 3.2 ypc last game.
Method to my Madness,
Take it to the Film
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Code black in full effect
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
85.GoodOle00 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
77. He does. And when Houston Plays DT on pass plays his hand speed low pads and power dominate Guards
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Oh god please dont start this…..Houston plays 3 tech when sliding inside….just quit now ok man…i’ve been explained this to yall and was proven right….hopw u know what a NT is my friend
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
This is why I hope Mark Davis fires Trask. Trask and Herrera out, you basically have all the dead wood gone. Sky’s the limit.
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Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
So, who pulled the trigger on the Curry trade? Doesn’t sound like a Jackson move. Mark Davis, please fire Amy Trask. And that other stench, Herrera.
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We now know what MR’s new purpose in life is.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Yes move curry put curry in middle and move McLain outside draft burfict kid next year
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Im glad you agree
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Jay sucked….JC aint trash like that but the deep ball is pissing me off…the chaz and dmoore plays was inexcusable but he did get the win but he cant msis those
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Dude, you are now an imposter. Mistic is going to be all over your rears. lmao.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
lol@#89 post. Very funny.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
90.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
GoofOle00,
Houston avg 3.2 ypc last game.
Method to my Madness,
Take it to the Film
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Look pal….dont condescend me or say schit to me in that manner……HENDU was the fkin reason for the run defense and this aint even up for debate…that is your best run stuffer and he punked their interior
October 12th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
95.aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Jay sucked….JC aint trash like that but the deep ball is pissing me off…the chaz and dmoore plays was inexcusable but he did get the win but he cant msis those
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Dude, you are now an imposter. Mistic is going to be all over your rears. lmao.
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Cant no one get on me….i’ll ace them fast…..but JC deep ball is pissing me off…anything else i like…he is our qb and our best bet to win now but fk me if he keeps missing these cats with that rocket arm of his
October 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I think curry is a great pick up. He will be better here. And he’s an asset in run def.
I like it.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
B,
two words…..Jay Shroeder.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Yes more Hendu in the middle please so we can punk hillis all day
October 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
that would be BUUUUUURFICT!
October 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Somebody upstairs is still pushing the Al mantra, and Hue’s caving in to them. Who is it? Trask? I doubt it’s Mark. Why are Trask and Herrera still involved with anything other than business operations, or custodial operations, in Herrera’s case?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
maybe JC thinks catching out of bounds count too
October 12th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
From Buzztap.com:
“You’d expect Curry to be on edge … Curry is practically serene right now. … . He was baptized in March, after attending a pro athletes’ Christian retreat with his wife, Jamila.
And what does this have to do with football? Well, Curry is showing signs of improvement in three key areas — patience, playbook comprehension and discipline — and he credits his faith for that. Curry has struggled with the Seahawks not because he’s lazy or content after signing a huge contract. To the contrary, he wants it too much at times. He overruns plays, or becomes robotic when he doesn’t understand the nuances of playing the position, or fails to grasp the big picture of what the Seahawks are trying to do in their defensive scheme.
Because Curry’s problems aren’t physical, he still has a chance to be a rare, late-blooming linebacker if he can relax, study harder and develop a better feel for the game. Many don’t see it and breathlessly declare him a bust. But Curry, the No. 4 overall pick in the 2009 draft, is only 25. There’s still time. There’s little question about his athletic ability. And there’s no doubt his newfound faith is changing his mental approach.
“With the Bible, you have to read it, understand it, apply it and deliver it,” Curry said. “That’s how you understand it. And that’s what I need to do to understand the playbook — read it, understand it, apply it and deliver it. My faith and obedience is definitely helping to elevate my game on the field.”
Credit to Momo, a Raiderfan.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Herrera should be cleaning toilets.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Method,
3 tech/Nt/Dt whatever you get the point, when Houston plays inside just as he did at Texas…..he plays well
October 12th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Lol at sully trying to ruin our parade, it won’t happen son find a new habit
October 12th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
MR get on your Alex7 account and coach em up. No one seems to be buying what your selling today.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Hey B@uce, nice call on Big John Hendu being able to provide push on pocket & QB, not just a run stuffer but a BEAST! John79 had hisself a GAME last week. The Hand of Al….
Anyway props for your call.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
# Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
22.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
question now is who goes? I vote myers off the island…
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2 need to go for Pyror to come too
I vote Meyers and Porter if Dvd/Chek are healthy OR Tonga if Reece/Gordan get healthy
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Porter and I doubt Meyers gets axed…Tonga shouldnt be cut but who knows…he is our truest FB i think its bad in taste to do that
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Read somewhere that the Raiders thought they could a roster extension for Pryor, but I don’t know if that’s even possible.
It might come down to injuries. If Shaugnessy’s shoulder is worse than Jackson has been letting on, he might go on IR.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Only time anybody will pay attention to sully is when we lose but not this week and obviously not anytime soon , so sully come back in 2 months
October 12th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Wouldn’t mind seeing Wimberly move to WLB with Curry at SLB and McClain staying in the middle. Young athletic defense just needs time to develop together.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
105.JLofty Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
From Buzztap.com:
“You’d expect Curry to be on edge … Curry is practically serene right now. … . He was baptized in March, after attending a pro athletes’ Christian retreat with his wife, Jamila.
And what does this have to do with football? Well, Curry is showing signs of improvement in three key areas — patience, playbook comprehension and discipline — and he credits his faith for that. Curry has struggled with the Seahawks not because he’s lazy or content after signing a huge contract. To the contrary, he wants it too much at times. He overruns plays, or becomes robotic when he doesn’t understand the nuances of playing the position, or fails to grasp the big picture of what the Seahawks are trying to do in their defensive scheme.
Because Curry’s problems aren’t physical, he still has a chance to be a rare, late-blooming linebacker if he can relax, study harder and develop a better feel for the game. Many don’t see it and breathlessly declare him a bust. But Curry, the No. 4 overall pick in the 2009 draft, is only 25. There’s still time. There’s little question about his athletic ability. And there’s no doubt his newfound faith is changing his mental approach.
“With the Bible, you have to read it, understand it, apply it and deliver it,” Curry said. “That’s how you understand it. And that’s what I need to do to understand the playbook — read it, understand it, apply it and deliver it. My faith and obedience is definitely helping to elevate my game on the field.”
Credit to Momo, a Raiderfan.
Love it and thrilled to the bone. Thanks JLofty! Great article.
October 12th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Herrera should be cleaning toilets.
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His job is to take out the trash. Speaking if which, what’s Kawakami up to these days?
October 12th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Sully is Jadumb syrup of this blog.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Look pal….dont condescend me or say schit to me in that manner……HENDU was the fkin reason for the run defense and this aint even up for debate…that is your best run stuffer and he punked their interior
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11 men take the field for each play, so don’t start that crap. Hendu is obviously our best run stuffer and “part” of the reason the run was stopped.
What you fail to realize is that Hendu was not in on every play that the run was stopped
October 12th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Let’s go Raiders !!
October 12th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Mark Davis’s job is to take out the trash, which is why Herrera should be gone, and why Trask should be back at her desk crunching numbers, and AWAY from the football war room.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
/crickets
October 12th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Mark Davis’s job is to take out the trash, which is why Herrera should be gone, and why Trask should be back at her desk crunching numbers, and AWAY from the football war room.
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Yawn.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Somebody upstairs is still pushing the Al mantra, and Hue’s caving in to them. Who is it? Trask? I doubt it’s Mark. Why are Trask and Herrera still involved with anything other than business operations, or custodial operations, in Herrera’s case?
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LOL, you’re reeling.
Retire.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
October 12th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
:/
October 12th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
It was not Hue Jackson’s idea to make this trade. That stinks.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
:-\
October 12th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
100.aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
B,
two words…..Jay Shroeder.
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sorry but schroader had cemet in his shoes and couldnt hit anyone ever…jc at least can….sorry bad example
October 12th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
:-/
October 12th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Lol, Hue couldn’t have wanted Curry? Maybe this trade was discussed last Friday. Come on, you can do better than this.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
122.LA to TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Somebody upstairs is still pushing the Al mantra, and Hue’s caving in to them. Who is it? Trask? I doubt it’s Mark. Why are Trask and Herrera still involved with anything other than business operations, or custodial operations, in Herrera’s case?
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LOL, you’re reeling.
Retire.
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He scrambling big time…fearful
October 12th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
October 12th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Out.
Be good.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Like I said he’s Jastupid Syrup of this blog
October 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Peace LA to bay
October 12th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
I dunno, does Hue look to you like he prefers soft linebackers?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
GOD DAMMIT THAT GOD DAMN TRASK IS IN CHARGE. I CAN ALREADY TELL.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Anybody here? Hello? Echo..
October 12th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
A linebacker who loves Jesus.
No offense, but I’m not sure that’s what you want in a linebacker.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
I’m out too peace Nation
October 12th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Sullivan44 = Kawakami
October 12th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Al Davis will have total control of the Raiders into perpetuity.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Somebody upstairs is still pushing the Al mantra, and Hue’s caving in to them. Who is it? Trask? I doubt it’s Mark. Why are Trask and Herrera still involved with anything other than business operations, or custodial operations, in Herrera’s case?
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LOL, you’re reeling.
Retire.
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LOL.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Amy Trask is forcing Al’s philosophy so she can remain relevant. I’ll bet you nobody wanted Curry, but she stood up and said, “This is what Al would have wanted”. And since nobody really knows who’s in charge at this point, everyone just went with it. This just stinks. Amy and Herrera are going to push Al’s ways if for any reason so they can stay relevant.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Look pal….dont condescend me or say schit to me in that manner……HENDU was the fkin reason for the run defense and this aint even up for debate…that is your best run stuffer and he punked their interior
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11 men take the field for each play, so don’t start that crap. Hendu is obviously our best run stuffer and “part” of the reason the run was stopped.
What you fail to realize is that Hendu was not in on every play that the run was stopped
Hello?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Telling you…it’s Al’s ghost. You need to make peace with him.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
129.LA to TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Lol, Hue couldn’t have wanted Curry? Maybe this trade was discussed last Friday. Come on, you can do better than this.
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He cant…its over for him lol
October 12th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
It’s Amy trying to stay relevant. Amy leaves the Raiders, exactly ZERO NFL teams have an interest in her. Everyone knows she was just one of Al’s tools. So, she’s forcing Al’s will to stay relevant. Nobody wants her there except for Al. And a business can not function that way.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Damn the troll is truly miserable. It’s hilarious.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
144.Tjbwall Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Look pal….dont condescend me or say schit to me in that manner……HENDU was the fkin reason for the run defense and this aint even up for debate…that is your best run stuffer and he punked their interior
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11 men take the field for each play, so don’t start that crap. Hendu is obviously our best run stuffer and “part” of the reason the run was stopped.
What you fail to realize is that Hendu was not in on every play that the run was stopped
Hello?
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See Foster’s first couple of runs? As soon as Hendu came in they were shot….point blank…not even up for debate…I WIN you LOSE…I win becuz Ive been onthis blog yelling for this guy to start since last summer….stand down
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Still possible Hue could be gone after this season. If Amy’s in charge? It’s a continuation of Al.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
anyways leaving the office early….yall real RAIDER brothers be easy
October 12th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
several weeks ago, I spoke for us trading for Curry!
I like this move a lot, and now I hope we next year will play a 3-4 with McClain and Curry as ILBs
October 12th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
anyways leaving the office early….yall real RAIDER brothers be easy
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lol.
“lockdown. rec room closed!”
October 12th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
150.Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Still possible Hue could be gone after this season. If Amy’s in charge? It’s a continuation of Al.
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Uh oh. Sully’s just admitted he’s dedicating his life to someone else now. As Amy goes, so do he folks. How sad can this guy get?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
3-4 with McClain and Curry…good grief. I don’t think Al’s even dead.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Yeea Boi 151
Sack Sack Sack COLT
October 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Obviously it is debatable because you sit there debating it, acting as if Henderson in the ONLY reason why the run was stumped.
I don’t care who you have “yelling on this blog” to start. Fact is that 11 players play on the field it does not matter if Hendu does his job 10 other players still have to do theirs
Take it to the film….this is not the only game that Henderson played this year
“I WIN you LOSE” that was hella corny LOL
October 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
anyways leaving the office early….
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Lol……what the troll office?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Sully I think your right Amy ws getting coffee the other morning and I heard her phone ringing off the hook. It was all the other NFL teams telling her that even though she didn’t ask they don’t want her. And while enforcing Al’s will she came across the Aaron Curry clause.
Finally like Amy nobody wants you here a blog cannot function this way.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
510, are you going to defend Trask as vehemently as Al? I mean, Al did win years ago. Trask is the face of our losing years.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Porter and Giordano aren’t going anywhere. Tonga looked a bit over matched out there. The guy who I thought might be expendable is Trev Scott. He has not seen a lot of playing time, and has not been incredibly productive when he has. The emergence of Jarvis Moss puts pressure on him. And with some of you thinking Wimbley is going to DE which I doubt, that would really put pressure on him.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
anyways leaving the office early….yall real RAIDER brothers be easy
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lol.
“lockdown. rec room closed!”
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See what a a douche bag looks like?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Kell, it’s lockdown. Rec room closed.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Method To My Madness Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
anyways leaving the office early….
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Lol……what the troll office?
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ole Krappy come to play?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
John Tweedy Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Qodrn Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
The Raider Scoreboard
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
[BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
r8eray 38-17 Raiders
raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
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Raiders 38
BrownStains 10
October 12th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Well, Hue, whether Amy would want another NFL job or not, she wouldn’t get one. Nobody in the league would hire her for any football related position. Considering the Raiders were 2nd to last in profitability on her watch, likely nobody would hire her for any business position, either. She’s an Al scholarship. And like all of Al’s scholarships, hopefully she’ll be fired soon as well.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
What I really like about this trade… Put him on the playmaking tight ends and it frees up Huff to make plays elsewhere. Curry also plays the run very well. And we got him for peanuts; A 7th rounder and a pick down the road. lmao. Fine move whoever pulled it off.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Man this trade has Amy written all ovah it, LMFAO!
I am now an Amy bootlicker. Count me in..
October 12th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
good timing on the trade with Cle, KC at home then bye week then Den at home he’ll be hitting full stride by SD
October 12th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I can’t believe I predicted the Raiders to score 38 with Campbell under center. What was I drinking? Go defense!! lol. And feel free to run up the score, Hue.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Quite Frankly, it does sound like an Al Davis move. Flashy former top 10 draft choice, physical freak……….maybe it was in the works.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Tweedy – thanks for the updated list. I don’t think trolls should be allowed to participate in any of these little score contests, etc. Just our way of saying eff uuu
October 12th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
uh i see sully is getting more and more angry day by day.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Dullagain bore de bore at it again.
Yawn…
*iggy button*
October 12th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@ John Tweedy Can you jot me down please.
Raiders 33
Browns 16
October 12th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Tweedy – thanks for the updated list. I don’t think trolls should be allowed to participate in any of these little score contests, etc. Just our way of saying eff uuu
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I think it’s funny , we must be doing something good for all this trolls to come here
October 12th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
MR/Alex7/Sullivan/and all the rest, is ready to slit wrists, the desperation is setting in.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
My predictions raiders 48-13
October 12th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Probably the case, Kell. Al had probably been pining for this guy in his final days. So this was one last move for the gipper.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
We got the guy for nothing basically. Good move by Mark and the gang.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
We got the guy for nothing basically. Good move by Mark and the gang.
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yup suck on that sully
October 12th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Al has the next 8 years of drafts picked already. We all know he studied high school film too.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
# HueKnows Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Al has the next 8 years of drafts picked already. We all know he studied high school film too.
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Yup, they will all turn out to be like our last 2 , suck on tht too sully
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
lol. Mark and “the gang”. It’s Amy and a bunch of cowards too timid to stand up to her. Mark needs to fire her ass.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Sully – if Al is the gipper then you must be the Gaper. lol…
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
“Not instinctual”?
“Curry outstanding field vision and ball awareness skills saw him not only wreak havoc in the opposition’s backfield on the blitz, but also excel in pass coverage. He returned three of his four interceptions for touchdowns as a junior, tying the NCAA single-season record for linebackers
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I think it’s an excellent trade, off the bat. We need point of attack LB’s. Timings good, too.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
MM34 Is going to have a break game vs Browns, that guy is pumped up all the time.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
185. lmao!
October 12th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Amy has to be locked in per Al’s will, otherwise Mark would have fire her ass, first order of business. That fact that Amy was still around on Sunday was a bad sign. I guarantee you not one person with the team wants her there. Or Herrera.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
The first big move for Al’s handpicked, personally trained staff. Nice pick up.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
He’s supposed to be a class act character guy too.
This looks like a good pick up but man, he flopped in Seatown.
Hope he thrives here like:
Kam
Groves
Moss
Carlisle
Satele
Barnes
Campbell
Henderson
Seymour
ect.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m sure Mark is planning on firing Amy and all Al’s scouts ASAP just too prove his dad had know idea on who to hire and he has a much better perspective…lol..
October 12th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Amy has to be locked in per Al’s will, otherwise Mark would have fire her ass, first order of business. That fact that Amy was still around on Sunday was a bad sign. I guarantee you not one person with the team wants her there. Or Herrera.
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I’m not saying you are wrong or right, but how do you know this? Source? Signs?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
# HueKnows Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m sure Mark is planning on firing Amy and all Al’s scouts ASAP just too prove his dad had know idea on who to hire and he has a much better perspective…lol..
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hahahah owned
October 12th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
MR you need to shut your mouth about Amy Trask.
Show some class she is a woman and successful why does that bother you?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Raiders 34 Browns 6
Rack ‘em
October 12th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
190. ha ha ha ha ha! Davis is DEAD. You got what you f’ing wanted and now you’ve got to demonize Trask to the level of Davis.
Know you’re a fake just baiting to get your pathetic fix. Don;’t know why I;m still shocked at how depraved and shameful you are.
tsk…
October 12th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
197. Righteous
October 12th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
I would totally do Amy Trask btw…
October 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Trask successful?
She’s the ceo of a business that’s 2nd to last in its industry.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Wonder what the ghost of Al has in store for us next?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I’m sorry, I’ve been following the Raiders on the field for over 20 years. Someone please clue me in on what Amy Trask has had to do with the on field product?
Is this hatred somewhat misdirected to the CEO on the business side of the Raiders?
The Raiders havent been profitable for the last 10 years because they chose to move back to a market where the incumbent team won 5 superbowls when the Raiders left and they have been fighting an uphill battle ever since in trying to make it to the top of the hill in the Bay Area market. On top of that they start losing 10+ games per season, and somehow it is Trask’s fault that the team became a laughing stock for 7 season?
Someone please help me out with the logic here…what has she done wrong? Could you or I have done any better?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
187.KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I think it’s an excellent trade, off the bat. We need point of attack LB’s. Timings good, too.
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Kell = A Raider fan not afraid to admit Als faults, but still would like to see the Raiders win.
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190.Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Amy has to be locked in per Al’s will, otherwise Mark would have fire her ass, first order of business. That fact that Amy was still around on Sunday was a bad sign. I guarantee you not one person with the team wants her there. Or Herrera.
Sully = A female who probably thinks its disgusting to spit.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@ John Tweedy Can you jot me down please.
Raiders 33
Browns 16
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Is not my list, I believe it is Q’s
October 12th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
202.The Big Banana Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Wonder what the ghost of Al has in store for us next?
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Hopefully he’ll release the brake on something large that runs over Dullagain…
October 12th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Key to stopping the Chargers. Destroy Rivers.
Period.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
does that make 4 former 1st round picks playing lb for us?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
202.The Big Banana Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Wonder what the ghost of Al has in store for us next?
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Remove MR’s writter’s block
October 12th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Rivers knows Oaklands for rizzle
October 12th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Thanks Raider 510. All my friends in real life, know me as a Raider diehard.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
208. Groes was 2nd round 52nd over all
October 12th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Groves sorry…
October 12th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Nice move on Curry. Dude has a motor and plays with intensity. Excellent breakdown from the Seahawks blog, seems like he will be a good fit in the Raiders scheme.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
208. Groes was 2nd round 52nd over all
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oh got it
October 12th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Dear Mr President,
Please pass a law banning Nicolas cage from making any movies for at least a month.
Enough already please!
October 12th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
214. It will be interesting to see where he plays if he plays.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Hey B@uce, nice call on Big John Hendu being able to provide push on pocket & QB, not just a run stuffer but a BEAST! John79 had hisself a GAME last week. The Hand of Al….
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It must have been the hand of Al’s ghost that issued Hendu his pre-game slapping!
October 12th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
daraider09 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I’m sorry, I’ve been following the Raiders on the field for over 20 years. Someone please clue me in on what Amy Trask has had to do with the on field product?
Is this hatred somewhat misdirected to the CEO on the business side of the Raiders?
The Raiders havent been profitable for the last 10 years because they chose to move back to a market where the incumbent team won 5 superbowls when the Raiders left and they have been fighting an uphill battle ever since in trying to make it to the top of the hill in the Bay Area market. On top of that they start losing 10+ games per season, and somehow it is Trask’s fault that the team became a laughing stock for 7 season?
Someone please help me out with the logic here…what has she done wrong? Could you or I have done any better?
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In other words = MR talking to himself, desperately trying to keep his point alive.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Dear Mr President,
Please pass a law banning Nicolas cage from making any movies for at least a month.
Enough already please!
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Congress passes law’s not the President.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Curry is going to be a great, great fit. If he is that great at getting off blocks and playing close to the line of scrimmage … well … then maybe McClain can learn from him lol because I think I could block McClain. I surely hope in year 3 McClain makes his strides.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Dear Mr President,
Please pass a law banning Nicolas cage from making any movies for at least a month.
Enough already please!
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Congress passes law’s not the President.
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You just can’t help but be annoying.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
KK
Did you know that the 10 poorest states in America are red states?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
JLofty is predicting a complete and TOTAL DOMINATION of the Cleveland Skidmarks. I can’t even remember the last time I saw a RAIDER victory live and in person.
Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
October 12th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
What I really like about this trade… Put him on the playmaking tight ends and it frees up Huff to make plays elsewhere. Curry also plays the run very well. And we got him for peanuts; A 7th rounder and a pick down the road. lmao. Fine move whoever pulled it off.
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I think you misread the scouting report. He’s not very good in coverage. The playmaking TEs like Gates would eat his lunch on every passing down. When the report said that he manhandles tight ends, it means that he does so at the line of scrimmage, when they try to block him on the edge during running plays.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Zymurge: that is the funniest thing I have read in here this week!
Basking in the Pride and Poise this week am I….
October 12th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
666, did you know the Raiders are the second least profitable team in football? So do enlighten me as to how Amy Trask is “successful”.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Size, speed, draft status still king in Oakland
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as it always should be it is one of the things that makes us the raiders. Anyone that comes to my city and tries to change this is nothing more than an impostor!!
October 12th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
I meant post 218.
Curry can’t be any worse in coverage than our current guys and/or McPain with a bad wheel.
Besides we got MM3×4 to cover the Gates guys if he can stay healthy. Did you see the adjustments the Raiders made in the second half against Houstains TE’s. They were reduced to observer status….
October 12th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
I think McClain needs to cut weight. Either that or the earths gravitational pull effects him differently that other humans.
Maybe we can all chip in and buy him some shake weights.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I’m out fellas, peace to the NATION!
…Did you order the CODE BLACK?!?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I know that Blue States get back less in federal spending than they pay, per tax dollar.
The red state ripoff
Over at the Fourth Branch, they’ve got a nice map showing the states that receive more than a dollar back for every dollar they pay in taxes (which they’ve coded red), and the states that receive less than a dollar back for every dollar they pay in taxes (which they’ve coded blue). Just to repeat: Red states are getting a good deal, and blue states a bad one. Here’s the map:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html
October 12th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
don’t do eet,
October 12th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I think you misread the scouting report. He’s not very good in coverage. The playmaking TEs like Gates would eat his lunch on every passing down. When the report said that he manhandles tight ends, it means that he does so at the line of scrimmage, when they try to block him on the edge during running plays.
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Gates’ days are over. He’s got Plantar fasciitis. Impossible to get rid of.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
I thought it was the elitist judges that passed new laws?
October 12th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
MR did you know that when Eddie D owned the 49ers they were ran in the red. Every year he lost millions of dollars building a championship team.
Suck on that for a while
October 12th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
666, did you know the Raiders are the second least profitable team in football? So do enlighten me as to how Amy Trask is “successful”.
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The answer is in your post. Google the word “profitable”.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
an lb to set the edge on runs is exactly what we need. he doesnt have to play on 3rd and long
October 12th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
I called it the minute I heard Curry was on the block. Obvious Davis move that Jackson hinted at in a previous post about how Davis and him had already planned stuff prior to the trade deadline and for this season in terms of player acquisitions.
Good pick up. This is the kind of athleticism we need at LB. We just need McClain to become a thumper, or find a thumper to put at MLB and move McClain to Sam backer.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Ecstatic about the Raiders trading for Mr. A. Curry.
Now we are deep at LB.
He is excellent against the run (our weakness)and his style of play will grow in the man to man coverage defense the Raiders play.
(side note to a previous post: No! We should not cut Mr. T. Scott, trade him or another player for a future draft pick possibly; cut quality players for nothing, absolutely not)!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Something that I don’t see people mentioning on the Curry trade is his contract. Yeah, the Seahawks gave him up for virtually nothing in terms of overall draft picks. But he also has an albatross hanging around his neck that pays him $10M this year. This wasn’t a sign him on waivers move, it was a trade, so that contract comes with him as baggage both in terms of a team financial obligation (which is tough for a team like the Raiders that isn’t rolling in cash) and the cap impact.
That said, there is a lot of news out there that they restructured his contract and had him waive some of the guaranteed money, just to make him even tradeable. I can’t find any news yet on the new deal, but he was guaranteed $5M next year. Hopefully he exchanged that for a few more years at a lower price so that he either turns into a good long term deal for the Raiders or at worst, someone that they can cut next year without a huge cap impact.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
@JoshDubowAP Josh Dubow
Aaron Curry’s pass D #s according to STATS: QBs 8-8 on passes his way in ‘11; 62-76 for 613 yards and 6 TDs for his career
October 12th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I like the idea of moving Mr. Wimbley to DE, but with Mr. McClain “doubtful,” I do not see that move being made this weekend.
This trade does allow us to play 3-4 more often, when necessary or simply to confuse the offense a little more.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
curry trade means possibly less time at OLB for nimbly and more at DE.
the best thing about this trade is that it has caused sullivan to go crazy. proof that al’s way will continue. hue made this trade. hue is al’s guy. they are on the same page.
suck it sullivan!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Well, he already has something to prove.
@billromanowski
Curry story not that much different than McClain. Both need to deliver on the promise of top 10, 1st Round status!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Also,
@SI_PeterKing
I love this Aaron Curry trade. It’s like Al made it, like he’s still alive. Good for Oakland.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
In other words = MR talking to himself, desperately trying to keep his point alive.
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It’s like he’s the trout pool. Barrel full of ‘em, and they’re not biting on anything…..
October 12th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I do hope though that Mr. Shaughnessey’s injury is not season ending; we will need him down the stretch and in the playoffs.
Front 7 could look like this, this weekend:
Wimbley Kelly Henderson Seymour
Groves Houston Curry
October 12th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Are migrating the roster for a move to 3-4? McPain certainly seems like he’s better suited for that. DL maybe not so much. Heard Curry might make a solid ILB too…
Ok now I am out of here.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Houston at mlb?
October 12th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Morilla thanks for the Peter King quote, so true!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
supapimp Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
i wonder what ever happen to lofa tatupu?
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Bad knees for lofa.
A word on Curry I heard today, dude used to hit hard, very hard when he came into the league, but got fined like 75K maybe 1st-2nd(?) year, and has backed off. Idiot seahawks fans rank him up there in all time busts. But coming to Oakland is just the change of scenery he needs. HuJack will bring out the beast in him. seattle is to much of a latte sippin piece of crap town for a real football player to play in.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Houston at mlb?
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C’mon Man!!!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7093244/oakland-raiders-agree-trade-aaron-curry-seattle-seahawks
October 12th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Curry started 30 games in his three seasons in Seattle. He had an incredible impact his first five games as a rookie in 2009 with two sacks and a forced fumble. He only had 3.5 sacks the remainder of his Seahawks career.
He played in all 16 games last season, and was an effective run defender, manhandling opposing tight ends. This season, Seattle switched its defensive format, and instead of lining up on top at the line of scrimmage, he was playing off the ball. He played one of his most consistent games as a Seahawk during the season-opener but after Week 2 at Pittsburgh when he dropped an interception that could have been returned for a touchdown, he was leapfrogged by Wright on the depth chart.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
666, did you know the Raiders are the second least profitable team in football? So do enlighten me as to how Amy Trask is “successful”.
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STFU. That’s how.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I do hope though that Mr. Shaughnessey’s injury is not season ending; we will need him down the stretch and in the playoffs.
Front 7 could look like this, this weekend:
Wimbley Kelly Henderson Seymour
Groves Houston Curry
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a 305 lb MLB? I don’t know about that.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Raiders ran the Missing Man Formation on the final play.
While not a huge fan of McClain, his absence worries me.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I like it. Very low risk move for a player that could succeed in our system.
Keep in mind, Pete Carroll gave up valuable draft picks for Tarvaris Jackson and anointed him the Seahawks’ starting quarterback. He signed oft-injured Robert Gallery to way more money than he’s worth (and he’s injured again, surprise) and he and Cable have turned Zach Miller into a blocking TE (he’s now out with another concussion).
Calling it a “brain trust” in Seattle may be overstating things.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
did you know that when Eddie D owned the 49ers they were ran in the red. Every year he lost millions of dollars building a championship team.
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That was mostly before the salary cap era, followed by the seasons immediately after it was put in place and the grandfather clauses still allowed a team to exceed the cap for existing contracts. The Whiners had by far the largest payroll in the league during their best years. They over paid many of their key players to prevent them from leaving and were the highest bidders for any free agent that they wanted. Hell, they paid Steve Young $3M (elite player money at that time) to sit on the bench for multiple seasons while waiting for Montana to move on.
The team also paid top dollar for (at the time) state of the art training facilities, team support systems, and had one of the highest paid coaching staffs. All these things help attract free agents and keep those on the team from going elsewhere.
DeBartalo was independently filthy rich and the Whiners were his toy that he could sink money into to buy championships. He had no desire to be profitable if he had to choose between that and winning.
That was a totally different business model than today’s salary cap driven team management style. Remember that the owners put the cap in place to save themselves from their own idiotic spending so that an owner like Al Davis (not wealthy outside the value of his share in the team) could compete on a level playing field. Given Al’s lack of outside income, he had every motivation in the world to make the team profitable. And he could have run it like some other cheapskate organizations that were consistently under the cap (like the Browns) in order to make money first, win second. But he didn’t. Agree or not with his choices, the team consistently spends to the max to field the best team it can — at least based on the player assessment of those in power.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
“While not a huge fan of McClain, his absence worries me.”
Exactly how I feel.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
“Idiot seahawks fans rank him up there in all time busts.”
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That’s saying a lot! Seahawk fans knows just a thing or two about huge all time busts, especially at the LB position. (See: Bosworth, Brian)
October 12th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Nice post Zymurge
MR was saying that just because the Raiders are not a profitable franchise that somehow reflects Amy Trask ability to be a good CEO.
I was arguing that with pretty much what your post was about only you went into a lot of good detail.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Q: With what Darrius [Heyward-Bey] was able to do in that game last week, was that something you guys saw you could take advantage of against the Texans or did you see Jason gaining more confidence in Darrius?
Coach Jackson: I think Jason’s always had confidence in him. I think Darrius, obviously, put two good weeks back-to-back together and I don’t know if that it is confidence more so its that’s where when I call the play, that’s where it should go and the execution was really crisp and really good. But, I think they’re in sync with each other right now and I think they’re doing some good things.
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yep & you heard it from Tha SupaVillain first
October 12th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
I am reading a lot of negative things about Curry too but we got him so cheap its really a low risk trade.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
I think that Trask does a fair amount of the capalogy work. If so, then she’s a genius as far as I’m concerned. For a team that seems perpetually over the cap, they always manage to get down under it without losing a huge amount of talent (relative to other teams), they lock up the guys that they want long term, and seem able to land the free agents that they want the most. In the cap driven world, this is pretty important stuff!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
A lot of people who just don’t think TPryor can play at this level are going to be a little surprised when gthey actually see just how talented and smart this kid is. The thing I like about him most is the fact that when he does drop back to pass he’s always a passer until he actually passes the LOS. Most guys who can run like he can will tuck the ball the minute they start to run where he keeps his eyes downfield in case someone comes open. He scrambles with the idea of passing. The guy thinks acts and plays like a QB. His college coach just called way too many runs for him which did have some affect on his rythum as a passer to some extent. Pryor is a fantastic athlete and that was his undoing in a lot ways coaches focused on that maybe more than they did his ability to run a team. The guy is a natural leader he makes everyone around him better IMO
He has that “IT” factor very similar to Cam Newton they just know how to get the job done.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
Excellent trade for Curry, I’m sure AL somewhere pulled the trigger on that. Oh yeah up yours RMR, “HAIL TO THE QUEEN AMY TRASK”!
October 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
@Supavillian — I’ve been rooting for DHB ever since day 1. And I gotta say that while he’s not out there busting the long ones like we’d think he was drafted for, he’s almost automatic on that 10-12 yard out pattern this year.
With his size and speed, it seems that CBs just don’t want to try to play him on the line and risk getting burned. He’s definitely learned to use his speed to turn that cushion into chain moving catches on a regular basis. When they do play him tight, JC reads it and sends him deep. Now if JC can just throw that deep ball a yard more inbounds.
For the next step in his evolution, just wait until teams start looking to overplay that and he learns a double move . . .
[you heard it here first: DHB will start scoring more and more on stop and goes or out and ups as the season goes on]
October 12th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82311e49/article/raiders-still-finding-their-way-but-next-three-games-will-tell-tale?module=HP11_content_stream
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October 12th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
priest i dont see it with your boy pryor. he wasnt the most accurate qb, but more troublesome was his decision making. i watched a ton of pryor because he was so hyped coming into college, I considered him a disappointment. too many times running throwing across his body or floating helium balls into double coverage. That will never fly in the nfl. maybe they can coach it out of him but he will never see the field as long as jc is healthy
October 12th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
I think Blackstock is going to be MLB if McClain can’t go.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
# Zymurge Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
With his size and speed, it seems that CBs just don’t want to try to play him on the line and risk getting burned. He’s definitely learned to use his speed to turn that cushion into chain moving catches on a regular basis. When they do play him tight, JC reads it and sends him deep. Now if JC can just throw that deep ball a yard more inbounds.
For the next step in his evolution, just wait until teams start looking to overplay that and he learns a double move . . .
[you heard it here first: DHB will start scoring more and more on stop and goes or out and ups as the season goes on]
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im with you 100% on that one, his double move is getting better every time he touches the field too, he abused cromartie in the jets game the one time cro matched up with him. Not only do people respect his speed, but he is just too physical to jam, so he will run through your jam and then smoke you down the field. This is why everyone knows he runs the sideline stop routes but they still refuse to press.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Q: Jason, you didn’t have the luxury of an offseason of being here but you did have some organized player workouts that you were a big part of. Condensed time period from the start training camp until no, how have you guys come together and how’s the camaraderie?
Campbell: I think it started in those sessions that we had always being around each other. At that point I could tell that we had a chance to have a really good season because the guys were all in really good shape and we did our drills and everything and the guys looked like they’d been working out and doing the things they needed to do to be ready for our season. Then going to training camp our chemistry as a team everyone pushing each other and that’s what it’s all about. We stay on each other. I push Darren, Darren pushes me, we push receivers, receivers push us, linemen pushing each other and the defensive side of the ball is the same way. Sometimes things get heated but it’s a good heated because that means we’re not just trying to settle we’re trying to become something and that’s our motto.
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mmhmmm and they said he lacked fire and leadership
what a joke
October 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Put Aaron Curry inside. It’s probably the best place for him. Take McClain out and the waiver wire might be the best place for McClain.
October 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
what is the nature of McClain’s injury? is it a long term thing?
October 12th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
First off, for those in hear screaming for Tonga!….stop…he did nothing last game and it’s obvious our run game hasn’t been up to par since the loss of Reece. Secondly, as far as Rolando McClain, it pains me to say it but I’m just not that confident that he is the man for the job. I hardly see him diagnose a play and hit the runner for a loss in the backfield, too often he gets burned in coverage because he’s too slow, last game against the texans, on their last drive they threw a screen and picked up a ton of yards because McClain couldn’t shed one block…..cmon man! And stop saying he gets the rest of the defense in the right position before the snap because the last time I checked we are near the bottom of the league, if not last, in plays for 20+ yards allowed, and that doesn’t happen unless there’s miscommunication going on with the defenders. I don’t know…I didn’t wanna throw you under the bus or anything Ro, and I’m not saying it’s all your fault, but gosh damn the 8th overall pick in the draft needs to start making plays!
October 12th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
# wasbanned Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
what is the nature of McClain’s injury? is it a long term thing?
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Bruised ovaries.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Sounds like the Seahawk fans were as unhappy with Curry, as a lot in here are unhappy with RoMac.
What gives?
October 12th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
“What gives?”
Very difficult position to play you have to be smart, a quick read, athletic, fast, drop into coverage or fill gaps against the run game and a whole lot more.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Sounds like the Seahawk fans were as unhappy with Curry, as a lot in here are unhappy with RoMac.
What gives?
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fans hold MLB’s to a higher standard than other defensive players, thats what gives..
October 12th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Nice Trade!
Thanks Again AL D!
October 12th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
My feeling exactly 510. I am not ready to toss McClain out after 20 games and he did play better in the last game, but he has a long way to go.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Secondly, as far as Rolando McClain, it pains me to say it but I’m just not that confident that he is the man for the job. I hardly see him diagnose a play and hit the runner for a loss in the backfield, too often he gets burned in coverage because he’s too slow, last game against the texans, on their last drive they threw a screen and picked up a ton of yards because McClain couldn’t shed one block…..cmon man! And stop saying he gets the rest of the defense in the right position before the snap because the last time I checked we are near the bottom of the league, if not last, in plays for 20+ yards allowed, and that doesn’t happen unless there’s miscommunication going on with the defenders. I don’t know…I didn’t wanna throw you under the bus or anything Ro, and I’m not saying it’s all your fault, but gosh damn the 8th overall pick in the draft needs to start making plays!
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I’ve been seeing the same thing all season and have been silently biting my tongue hoping that it’s just a slow start. Shedding the denial for a bit, I’m also questioning if he’s the right man for the job.
I don’t expect a 4-3 MLB to be a super coverage guy or able to chase down the fleetest of backs. But I do expect them to be absolute run stuffers, that read the blocks to find the hole, toss the FB aside like they were Paris Hilton the next morning, and blast the RB at the LOS for no gain. Ya know. That stuff that makes the OC pull his hair out in frustration at not being able to run to the inside.
And it’s not like the Raiders are lacking in beef at the DT position. They do a good job of keeping the interior OL from getting into the LBs. Yet, I see McLain hitting the wrong hole more times than not and getting himself lost in the wash.
Maybe what he actually needs to do is slow down a half sec and let the play develop before he commits. Instead of always looking for the 2 yard loss, let’s settle for solid contact at the line and shoot for an average of 1 YPC.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
281.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Whats a Drexl? Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Sounds like the Seahawk fans were as unhappy with Curry, as a lot in here are unhappy with RoMac.
What gives?
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fans hold MLB’s to a higher standard than other defensive players, thats what gives..
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Fans hold top 10 draft picks to higher standards than other players, regardless of whether they play offense or defense.
Hopefully Seattle jumped the gun on calling Curry a bust. (Like some in here are doing with McClain, for example).
October 12th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Just like with DHB fans expect high draft picks to come in and immediately contribute. That 09 draft had Maybin, Knowshon Moreno, Andre Smith, Tyson Jackson, Craptree, Larry English in addition to DHB and Aaron Curry. Lot of “potential busts” right now at the top of that draft class.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
“What gives?”
Very difficult position to play you have to be smart, a quick read, athletic, fast, drop into coverage or fill gaps against the run game and a whole lot more.
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then RoMac gets the full three year scholarship.
I watched B Urlacker get suckered out of position on numerous plays monday night, with play action, and pulling guards.
I guess it must be hard.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
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Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
October 12th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Have we decided who the Raiders are dumping from team yet, or is that still on-going?
October 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Why do lots of you like the idea of Wimbley being our perminant Rde
Last time i checked this team wasnt that good against the run and a 250lb De won’t help
Hes a situational De at best
October 12th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Raiders 38 Browns 7
Ford/Moore will both have major impacts,as long as Soup can keep the ball in play.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Add my prediction to the list:
Raiders 23, Browns 17
The mighty leg of Seabass once again rings up many FGs while the Oakland ground game steadily marches the team up and down the field, chewing up the clock, and making for a low frills game. McCoy gets lucky on a broken play or two, and is likely helped by a few very untimely PI calls on 3rd and long, to get in the end zone twice. The Raiders have a long TD pass to D Moore called back when a ref flows a flag on the D for neutral zone infraction, only to have the zebra crew huddle for two minutes after the play to claim that when throwing it, the official accidentally burped into his whistle and very quietly signaled the play dead for anyone within 2 feet of him.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
From Forbes Magazine,
It will take more than a historic recession and a player lockout to sack the business of football.
Gallery: The Most Valuable NFL Teams
Gallery: Full List: The World’s 50 Highest-Paid Athletes
Video: Monetizing the Green Bay Packers Brand
The average National Football League team is now worth $1.04 billion, 1.4% more than last year. During the 2010 season average revenues for the league’s 32 teams rose 4% compared with the previous season, to $261 million. Although operating income (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) fell 8.1%, to an average of $30.6 million per team due to higher costs for stadium operations, training facilities and marketing, the new collective bargaining agreement will give owners a bigger slice of overall revenue.
The biggest winners are high-revenue team owners who will see their revenue sharing payments to their low-revenue rivals drop. In part this explains why the value of the top 10 teams rose 4% on average.
“The new CBA provides owners with a level of certainty as well as greater profitability,” says Marc Ganis, president of consultancy SportsCorp. The 10-year deal, the result of a four and a half month lockout of its players, ensures labor peace for the next decade as neither side can opt of the agreement.
Owners will pay players 47% to 48% of total revenues under the new pact, down from 51% under the old CBA. We estimate the NFL’s 32 teams generated a total of $8.3 billion in revenue last year, which is a 4% gain from 2009 (our figures include the net proceeds the teams receive from sources like merchandise and NFL.com).
Under the new CBA, teams will receive around $250 million per year more at first based on the new revenue split. That figure will climb substantially as the league negotiates new television contacts over the next 12-months. The current deals with CBS, ESPN, FOX and NBC expire after the 2013 season and owners are expecting increases up to 60% on the current $3.1 billion average annual value of those deals (DirecTV brings in additional $1 billion each year). Given the league’s high television ratings and the lust males between the age of 18 and 45 have for watching football, such a boost is not inconceivable.
Led by maverick team owner Jerry Jones, the most valuable team for the fifth straight year is the Dallas Cowboys, worth $1.85 billion, up 2% from last year. Jones and his Cowboys continue to find ways to leverage their powerful brand. In 2008, they launched Legends Hospitality Management, a stadium-logistics business run in partnership with the New York Yankees and Goldman Sachs. The $1.2 billion Cowboys Stadium opened in 2009 with a splash thanks to its 160-foot wide scoreboard and seating for up to 100,000 for special events.
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The latest venture is Silver Star Merchandising, a Cowboys-owned company, which signed a deal this year with the University of Southern California athletic department to make and distribute merchandise (excluding team jerseys and sideline apparel). The 10-year deal begins with the 2011 football season.
Cowboys Stadium continues to be a gold mine for Jones. The 320 suites and 15,000 club seats at JerryWorld generate $115 million in revenue annually. Sponsorship revenues are $50 million even with the Cowboys inability to ink a naming rights partner for the venue. The Cowboys earned $119 million in operating income last season, the most in the NFL for a second straight year.
Full List: The NFL’s Most Valuable Teams
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The Giants (No. 4 at $1.3 billion) and Jets (No. 5 at $1.22 billion) saw their values rise 10% and 7% respectively as the new $1.4 billion stadium they share opened in 2010. The lousy economy hindered ticket sales and both teams failed to sell out their club seat inventory. The Jets in particular were forced to slash some personal seat licenses for season tickets by 50%.
It still represented a dramatic upgrade financially for both teams. The Giants saw premium seating revenue jump from $8 million to more than $50 million. The Jets doubled sponsorship revenues to $35 million annually. The fortunes of both teams got a further lift in August when MetLife agreed to spend more than $400 million over 25 years for the naming rights to the former New Meadowlands Stadium. It is the NFL’s richest naming rights deal ever.
There is a growing divide between the rich and poor NFL franchises (poor being a relative term as all 32 teams rank among the 50 most valuable sports teams in the world). Supplemental revenue sharing payments to low revenue teams under the old CBA were expected to rise to $220 million with high rolling teams like the Cowboys, Washington Redskins (No. 2, worth $1.55 billion) and New England Patriots (No. 3, worth $1.4 billion) supplying much of the welfare and on the hook for more than $10 million apiece.
Teams have increased spending in recent years which was the owners’ rational for voting in 2008 to end the CBA early. Player costs doubled between 1999 and 2009, but other expenses also soared. New practice facilities have popped up for teams like the Jets and Seahawks which can cost several million dollars a year to operate. Coaching salaries have exploded with many head guys earning $5 million annually and assistants collectively earning $7 million.
Teams are assessed more than $10 million annually to run the league offices and invest in new ventures like NFL.com. The lousy economy has forced teams used to automatic sellouts to spend more on marketing to move tickets that average $76 leaguewide according to Team Marketing Report (club seats average $239).
NFL teams got a reprieve in 2010 thanks to the rules of the old CBA in an uncapped year regarding player benefits. Each team only had to pay a portion of player benefits and was able to keep $10 million in payments that normally would have been made in a typical NFL season with a salary cap. The effect was a 1% drop in total player costs to $4.4 billion. Teams earned $30.6 million in operating income on average last season.
One small market team who is muscling in the on the big teams is the Green Bay Packers. The Green Bay metro area has only 307,000 people in it and is 70% smaller than any other metro with a major pro sports franchise (Ottawa is the second smallest). This pipsqueak population figure means the Packers generate $312 in local revenues per person in the area, seven times the league average.
The Packers rode their Super Bowl victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers to a 7% increase in value and the publicly held franchise is now worth $1.09 billion, ninth highest in football. The team announced plans in August to add 6,600 seats and bigger video screens to Lambeau Field in time for the 2013 season at a cost of $130 million. The renovation is expected to increase revenues by as much as $13 million annually (see “The Power of the Packers”).
NFL teams are prized assets that rarely change hands. Controlling interest in only four teams was sold during the past 10 years and the Miami Dolphins are the only one of the 25 most valuable to get a new owner. The reason is NFL teams almost never lose money, unlike their counterparts in the NBA, and values keep going up. Most teams have double-digit operating margins and the average franchise value has increased 122% over the past decade (the S&P 500 is flat over the same period). The new CBA and coming TV deals ensure the NFL will maintain its role as the richest sports league in the world.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Edward Teach…
yeah lets hope!
in the beginning of the season, after week two, but before week 3 I spoke for us trading fro Curry! cant remember what I suggested but Im sure as he11 its more than a 7th round pick!
Im sure Al would be proud of the coaches and front office!
I hope this will mean we gonna play a 3-4 next season! I think Curry and McClain are best suited for a 3-4 D’s and that they would support each other tremendously!
October 12th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
yo! and black beard, good to see you here again!
lets hope this is gonna be our Randy Moss/4th rounder deal!
October 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Rank
Team/Current Value ($mil)/1-Yr Value Change/ (%)Debt/Value / (%)Revenue ($mil)/ Operating Income ($mil)
1
Dallas Cowboys
1,850 2 18 406 119.0
2
Washington Redskins
1,555 0 26 352 65.6
3
New England Patriots
1,400 2 19 333 42.9
4
New York Giants
1,300 10 50 293 40.6
5
New York Jets
1,223 7 61 285 25.1
6
Houston Texans
1,202 3 17 283 41.0
7
Philadelphia Eagles
1,164 4 9 274 28.9
8
Chicago Bears
1,093 2 11 266 43.4
9
Green Bay Packers
1,089 7 2 259 12.0
10
Baltimore Ravens
1,088 1 25 262 24.9
1234
11
Indianapolis Colts
1,057 2 4 252 32.8
12
Denver Broncos
1,046 0 14 255 28.5
13
Pittsburgh Steelers
1,018 2 25 255 28.3
14
Miami Dolphins
1,012 0 40 253 12.9
15
Carolina Panthers
1,002 -3 19 257 31.2
16
Seattle Seahawks
997 1 12 249 7.8
17
San Francisco 49ers
990 7 14 234 1.5
18
Kansas City Chiefs
986 2 14 252 14.5
19
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
981 -5 18 245 50.8
20
Cleveland Browns
977 -4 15 247 -2.9
21
New Orleans Saints
965 1 13 261 28.9
22
Tennessee Titans
964 -3 13 250 21.8
23
San Diego Chargers
920 1 14 241 34.2
24
Arizona Cardinals
901 -2 17 240 56.4
25
Cincinnati Bengals
875 -3 11 236 44.7
26
Detroit Lions
844 3 33 228 -7.7
27
Atlanta Falcons
814 -2 34 233 27.2
28
Minnesota Vikings
796 3 41 227 3.7
29
Buffalo Bills
792 -1 16 236 40.9
30
St Louis Rams
775 -1 15 228 24.6
31
Oakland Raiders
761 0 16 217 23.0
32
Jacksonville Jaguars
725 0 17 236 32.8
October 12th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
296 is also from Forbes article on the NFL done at the beginning of the season 9/07/11.
Shows the Raiders make more money than the 49ers.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
YOU GOT SCOOPED SO ITS A NON STORY!! HAHA!! ALL OF THE NATION IS ABUZZ OF THIS FACT, SO YOUR LATE TO THE BUS NON STORY IS A BIG STORY TO THE NATION!!! THE AL-EVENTH MAN LIVES!!!!
October 12th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I like the Curry trade. Its trades like that that put you over the top. Teams need to be real concerned when they face the Raiders because this roster has talent out the ___
October 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The Browns offensive line is actually playing fairly well, very well on the left side. They just don’t seem to have the horses on offense. Alex Mack most likely will go at center in this one. Peyton Hillis is a good player, so is Colt MC Coy but again neither is a great player. I think we are going to see Greg Little’s first start or if not a start he should get in a pretty good chunk of playing time. Little is the big receiver we have been talking about in here for a while. The Raiders secondary cannot let Little get on track by breaking tackles. Looks like the major matchup on this one is the Raiders defensive line against the Brown Offensive line. Gotta like the Raiders chances there.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
“…Coaching salaries have exploded with many head guys earning $5 million annually and assistants collectively earning $7 million….”
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I’ve thought for years that they should include the total cost of the coaching staff into the salary cap. There are clearly some elite coaches that have profound impact on their teams’ success, and for the most part, they get paid much higher. Small market teams can lose out on the chance to get these guys. If they were part of the cap, then the team would have to choose whether to spend more on a coach and less on players, or the other way around. It’d be an interesting way to level the playing field and turn the coaches into a commodity like the players that can be traded for.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Davis & Jackson did an unbelievable job building this roster. There is so much talent now its dizzying to think of. How can the average team stand a chance to compete? This team is loaded.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Well really Al built the roster. I’m just Hue had input here and there but he was probably mostly learning how to do it.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
All the teams at the top of the value chart have new stadiums, with the exception of Green Bay. Not really concerned about team values.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Always knew you were a Browns fan SeyGlenn666.
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The Browns offensive line is actually playing fairly well, very well on the left side.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Who cares about team perceived values? Its meaningless. All I care about are wins. Just win, baby!
October 12th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Just like with DHB fans expect high draft picks to come in and immediately contribute. That 09 draft had Maybin, Knowshon Moreno, Andre Smith, Tyson Jackson, Craptree, Larry English in addition to DHB and Aaron Curry. Lot of “potential busts” right now at the top of that draft class.
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very spot on post. I think McClain is so far underperforming, but I dont think he’s a bust. Willing to give him more time. He shows flashes. He can thump, he can cover, he can make plays (deflections, sacks, stuffs, interceptions), but he’s prone to inconsistency like all rookies and 2nd year players. Some prospects do become immediate studs in their rookie seasons, and this is where fans get frustrated, why him and not him, and get impatient. But the norm is for 2-3 years for players to ‘get there’. often it’s the coaching staff utilizing a player badly or after he’s drafted, a new HC comes in with a new scheme and it detriments that rookies skill-set.
My main problem with our LBs is Groves and Wimbley. Wimbley is ok, Groves is not. But OLB to me is a weakness in this 4-3. Groves and Wimbley would be better at OLB in a 3-4 not 4-3. I like the potential of WLB-McClain-Curry. Finding another WLB out there. Or drafting Burfict (say), and going with Curry-Burfict-McClain (in a 4-3). Groves and Wimbley would be better as situational and back-up OLBs.
October 12th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Seems that the Raiders are last in the league in revenues by a good margin. At least $10M (~4.5%) less than the next lowest, and ~%15 less than the median. Ouch! That’ll make it hard to compete.
We need everyone to do their part and run out and by (yet) another piece of Raider gear to help fund the team
October 12th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Hey Qodrn, you missed me from the other day:
Raiders 38
Beige 9
CODE BLACK remains in effect
October 12th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
My main problem with our LBs is Groves and Wimbley. Wimbley is ok, Groves is not. But OLB to me is a weakness in this 4-3. Groves and Wimbley would be better at OLB in a 3-4 not 4-3. I like the potential of WLB-McClain-Curry. Finding another WLB out there. Or drafting Burfict (say), and going with Curry-Burfict-McClain (in a 4-3). Groves and Wimbley would be better as situational and back-up OLBs.
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The Raiders seem to be playing an awful lot of nickel this season, with only 2 LBs in the mix. Maybe they should just annoint Mitchell the WLB and go small in the base 4-3
October 12th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
We kinda have a 3-4 personnel there to experiment with.
Seymour-Henderson-Kelly
Groves-Curry-McClain-Wimbley
But like others have said, our DL is our strength. We could rotate Houston and Bryant into that DL, and Moss, Shaughnessy, Scott thru the OLBs.
I’m tho for the 4-3, but just upgrading the whole LB corp. Moving Groves/Wimbley to back-up OLBs, keep persisting with McClain at MLB/SLB, and finding two other true 4-3 OLBs to start ahead of Groves/Wimbley.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Zymurge Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
The Raiders seem to be playing an awful lot of nickel this season, with only 2 LBs in the mix. Maybe they should just annoint Mitchell the WLB and go small in the base 4-3
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I like the idea of Mitchell at OLB too.
Maybe something like…
WLB-Curry….MLB-McClain….SLB-Mitchell
October 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Maybe Nnamdi is just bad luck?
October 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Well really Al built the roster.
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He sure did. I think he wanted the staff to take over the football operations around the Gruden and Mid 2000’s but we all know what happened. Clearly, the last four or five years Davis has put his stamp on the team. Guys like Veldheer, Shaughnessy, Branch are just fantastic picks. The young guys in the 2ndary, Joe Porter, Checkwa, Van Dyke all seem to have very bright futures here. If we can get some better play out of the linebacking corp we will be just fine.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Always knew you were a Browns fan SeyGlenn666.
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The Browns offensive line is actually playing fairly well, very well on the left side.
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It’s a fact. Facts don’t seem to make sense to you.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
SeyGlen666, do you see how stupid you looked now calling me a Browns fan? Probably not, you are pretty damn dumb!
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Always knew you were a Browns fan SeyGlenn666.
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Seymour Bush Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
The Browns offensive line is actually playing fairly well, very well on the left side.
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It’s a fact. Facts don’t seem to make sense to you.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
How many balls did we bat down Sunday?
October 12th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Maybe Nnamdi is just bad luck?
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Don’t know if luck has anything to do with it, but there are winning players and there are losing players. And talent doesn’t seem to have anything to do with it. Guys like Mike Vick or LeBron James always seem to be winning. Then you get guys like Barry Bonds who didn’t win in high school, didn’t win at ASU and didn’t win in the pro’s. As soon as the SF Giants got rid of him they won. Nnamdi’s Cal team did not win, his pro team the Raiders did not win, and now Philly seems to be in trouble in with Vick. They might just not be winning players for whatever reason.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
How many balls did we bat down Sunday?
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McCoy is not nearly as big as Matt Schaub and you saw what happened there. McCoy is a bit more mobile tho.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Mista Brown is the Jamarcus Russell of the blog. Right Ja-mista?
October 12th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
[BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
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Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
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No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
r8eray 38-17 Raiders
Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
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Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
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Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
October 12th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Sorry plunk, knew I missed someone but got tired of looking for it.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Raiders 31, Browns 27
October 12th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Since Nnamdi left The Raiders have played a lot more zone. The success has been limited, but there has been several injuries in the secondary as well. Meanwhile Asomugha has gone to Philli and struggled trying to play zone. Maybe one of the reasons The Raiders played so man to man heavy the last few years is because, while they knew Asomugha was a very good man to man cover guy, they also knew from practice that he wasn’t very good in zone coverage. Maybe that is why they didn’t make him an offer to keep him from leaving. Even though he was a great man to man cover guy, he limited their defense because of his inability to play zone well and kept them from being able to mix up their defense.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
No worries Q.. thanks
October 12th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Just saw CSN named last week’s play the immaculate interception. Very fitting.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Should have been called “The missing man formation.”
October 12th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
I think Nnamdi didnt get an offer because Al was mad at him. There was no loyalty after Al shelled out a huge contract. The moment he voided his contract to be a freeagent probably ticked off Al.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
DHB was very pumped up last week. Everytime he got the ball, he was running full speed, ready for contact, clapping, trash talking and expressing a lot of energy. DHB wasn’t like this previously. Previously he was much more mellow, down to earth. DHB would generally make the catch and immediately get back to the huddle. Not sure what changed his demeanor, but it looks like his performance, was feeding off of his confidence. Even when he did drop a ball, he was clapping his hand, realizing it was his fault, but wanting another opportunity. Did the light finally come on? He’s finally starting to silence the critics and the complainers.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Seachicken fans are really hating on Curry, its worse than some Raider fans in here hating on Mcclain. I just checked out some youtube vids and within the last hour some dude is posting videos of Curry playing bad. It seems he may be a little bitter and pssed that Oakland got him on the cheap.
Curry should atleast give us LB depth and thats something we need, I don’t see how any one would think this is a bad trade unless they are a seachicken fan.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Raiders 34 Browns 13
October 12th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
ALAMEDA — A potential bonus of Terrelle Pryor’s five-game suspension to begin his NFL career, in which he could not practice with the team and could only have individual workouts?
Pryor said he was able to glean knowledge from Al Davis before the Raiders owner passed away last weekend.
“I talked to him a couple times a week,” Pryor told FM radio station 93.7 The Fan in Pittsburgh. “Once a week at least.
“It was just talking to a legend like that, him just passing away … it sucked. I couldn’t believe it. I was in disbelief. I didn’t know the guy that long, but just from talking to him and how passionate he is it is amazing just talking to him on the phone.
“You just get a buzz and butterflies in your stomach because he just talks about winning. He’s so passionate about the game and so passionate about Oakland. It amazed me and my heart goes out to his family and he was a great guy.”
Pryor, a stereotypical height-weight-speed Davis draft pick, began practicing Wednesday. He also reportedly told The Fan he would not be a receiver in any packages but could potentially be the quarterback on a Wildcat play.
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Can’t wait for this guy to get on the field.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Just tried to search Curry youtube highlights seahawks.. wasnt anything there.. still happy for the trade.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Since Nnamdi left The Raiders have played a lot more zone. The success has been limited, but there has been several injuries in the secondary as well. Meanwhile Asomugha has gone to Philli and struggled trying to play zone. Maybe one of the reasons The Raiders played so man to man heavy the last few years is because, while they knew Asomugha was a very good man to man cover guy, they also knew from practice that he wasn’t very good in zone coverage. Maybe that is why they didn’t make him an offer to keep him from leaving. Even though he was a great man to man cover guy, he limited their defense because of his inability to play zone well and kept them from being able to mix up their defense.
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Interesting theory.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Remember when Al said this on Hue’s hire…
“The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.” – Al Davis
October 12th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
302.TerrapinRaider Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Davis & Jackson did an unbelievable job building this roster. There is so much talent now its dizzying to think of. How can the average team stand a chance to compete? This team is loaded.
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Yeah man, we put it together on any one day and its going to be ugly for the opposition.. Its damn f**** exciting ..
October 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdTfCezd1NI
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He has a few more vids, Quality is Schit
October 12th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
haha, remember this?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_17414571
We’ll know the Raiders have truly returned when defense secretary Robert Gates calls the Raiders “evil.”
By now the end-of-interview comment from former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld has made the rounds. Talking with the Financial Times on Super Bowl Sunday, Rumsfeld asked interviewer Gideon Rachman if he was rooting for the Steelers or the Packers.
Rachman said he was picking Pittsburgh “because of the epic games against the Oakland Raiders in the 1970s.”
Rumsfeld’s response?
“Nobody could support the Raiders. They’re evil.”
Nice isn’t it? Any outrage in Raider Nation is misplaced.
“Evil” sure beats “dysfunctional,” “inept” or “incompetent.” It harkens back to a time when the Raiders were feared instead of mocked.
The Raiders got some of that fear factor back last year in going 8-8 and looking dominant in some instances while doing it.
The next step?
Get rid of all the pre-snap penalties and don’t worry about the fouls of aggression. If Richard Seymour deems it appropriate to deck Ben Roethlisberger, make sure it happens in a win instead of a one-sided loss.
Where the Raiders are concerned, evil is good.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
morilla Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Since Nnamdi left The Raiders have played a lot more zone. The success has been limited, but there has been several injuries in the secondary as well. Meanwhile Asomugha has gone to Philli and struggled trying to play zone. Maybe one of the reasons The Raiders played so man to man heavy the last few years is because, while they knew Asomugha was a very good man to man cover guy, they also knew from practice that he wasn’t very good in zone coverage. Maybe that is why they didn’t make him an offer to keep him from leaving. Even though he was a great man to man cover guy, he limited their defense because of his inability to play zone well and kept them from being able to mix up their defense.
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Interesting theory.
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it is very interesting and a refreshing change to see an intelligent thought out post.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Big Al spent time with DHB talking to him telling him to keep working and that he knew he would come around. he told him after his rookie year that don’t worry we know how you play just get your confidence up so that you can start showing what we saw in college. Big Al always reassured DHB that he was behind him and to just relax and play stop worrying about the critics and the pressure of when he was drafted.
In the offseason after his rookie year in OTA’s DHB came back a new player he flat tore it up in camp. Unfortunately it didn’t translate to the field until this year probably once kind of grew up a bit. DHB isn’t even close to what he will be by years end. By next year he’ll be one of the better players on this team and no one will question it.
We saw this same curve by DMC he was just way too young for the NFL his body had not developed after 2 years he started to hit the weight room and put on 10-15 lbs. of muscle and now you see what he had inside. It atkes a while sometimes at this level it is such a huge step up because everyone is talented at this level you have to fully develope to fulfill your full potential.
That’s why players like Moss and Curry lose confidence on the teams that drafted them because they haven’t developed. I’ve preached this in here for years but always ogot rebuffed because people don’t understand why a 1st rnd pick needs to develope. They don’t understand every player needs to develope. Just that some are more prepared than others. Mr Davis has stolen tons of players this way over the years because organizations are too impatient. He stole Camp the same way some think he wont plkay well but IMO he already is we just have very young players he’s working with.
October 12th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Who cares about highlights of his in seachicken unis, we want the player he was at wake forest…
October 12th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Many of you noticed my MLB, Priest, Young American, and a few others know I always like to throw far reaching scenario now and then.
Mr. Houston has played FB, so why not MLB.
I’m just thinking how can we get our best and biggest on the field.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Let’s Rock o colisiuem
October 12th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Houston would be an outstanding MLB I thought of that yesterday and I remembered Matt Millen was a DT at Penn St and he wa sbiult very similar to Houston now Houston is a better athlete than Millen ever was. Millen was hell against the run and was a very good blitzer.
I think Houston would have to drop 20-25 lbs. but the he would be even more athletic. So I don’t think it’s far fetched at all.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
337.realtruraider Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdTfCezd1NI
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He has a few more vids, Quality is Schit
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Oh classic, thats was good bto
October 12th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Let’s make so loud that their ears are bleeding
October 12th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
I know he is still a long ways from it, but I would sure like to see DHB end up having a hall of fame carreer. It would be just one more vindication for Al.
I think the only thing holding this team back right now is Campbell’s being inaccurate on so many deep balls with open recievers. If he gets that down the offense will be great. He is very accurate on the short and intermitiate passes.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I hadn’t planned on going to the game Sunday, but now I am going to because I want to be there for the tribute for Al.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Let’s chear for every player this game say it out loud
October 12th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Cheer that’s what I meant
October 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
341.mcfadden20. Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Who cares about highlights of his in seachicken unis, we want the player he was at wake forest…
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Yea i know im just having a laugh, i watched all his wake stuff.. and i dont think his stats so far NFL wise warrant bust label, i guess going 4th carries alot of expectation, i think he will produce from the outset.. and if someone in S&B then im with them 100… except the late Nick Miller.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
However the kid we just aquired gives us a lot of versatility in terms of varying our fronts from a 3/4 to 4/3 and vice versa. We can now show different fronts easier IMO Put Hendu at NT and play Big Sey and Houston and DE and go to a 3/4 with those LB’s is a sick front7. Wimbley Curry RoMac and Groves and just smash teams. It would make the Dline rotation even better.You could rotate Kelly at NT with Moss and Bryant DE on 3rd downs and rush downs.
This IMO is a much better use even when Shonasty gets back. Now let’s see team try to run…
October 12th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Well I really wanted to go too but economic reasons couldn’t do it but I’ll be there KC game
October 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
341.mcfadden20. Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Who cares about highlights of his in seachicken unis, we want the player he was at wake forest…
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Yea i know im just having a laugh, i watched all his wake stuff.. and i dont think his stats so far NFL wise warrant bust label, i guess going 4th carries alot of expectation, i think he will produce from the outset.. and if someone in S&B then im with them 100… except the late Nick Miller.
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Exactly my thought I think playing under too
Many expectations and pressure under the spotlight can really supress a player too
October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Raiders will now need to trade, cut, or IR two players [one this week and one next week] for Mr. Curry’s & Mr. Pryor’s roster spots.
I could see Mr. Gordon [6th round pick] going to IR with his broken hand.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Look at DHB he’s coming along and he might reach 1,000 yard receiving this year
October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Blackstock will surpise you guys…in a good way.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/12/SPOF1LGCCQ.DTL
October 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
DHB looking like the most reliable, an open Wide out we got right now.. Happy for dude,
October 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Whatever the stats I just want to win baby
October 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
especially when Shonasty returns!
October 12th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
well i’ve been saying all season that browns is a pretty good team, so my guess is a loss
Raiders 26 Browns 30
October 12th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
I want to win the superbowl I don’t care even if we have 100 yards total in that game
October 12th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
So your saying we are a bad team ?
October 12th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Curry may surprise all of us! Who knows, McClain and Curry may actually feed off one another and be a beast duo out there…but then again, there is always the opposite! I am staying with the positive!
October 12th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
How can you be a raider fan when you predict a loss against a team that’s not even on our level talent wise or coaching wise
October 12th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
@362 ?????
No way cuz, No way, we at home and ready to get a win streak going. you taking the micky right
October 12th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
And playing at home non the less
October 12th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
It is The NFL and anybody can beat anybody, but Cleavland might be pretty good but they certainly are not great. you really think that at hope with all the emotion of the Al Davis tribute, that Cleavland will win?
October 12th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
at home, not hope
October 12th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I don’t understand this guys undercover thing either tell us ur a fan of this team or just a plain hater , atleast the charged up guy is Better than this guys
October 12th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
mcfadden20. Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
So your saying we are a bad team ?
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I say, that browns are just better, not that we are bad..
I think Browns are a team we need to respect as we did NYJ and NE, I actually think, as I’ve said many times before, that AFC east is going to change.. I think NYJ is going down the ranks and NE is going to be a top12 team in a near future..
October 12th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
could see Lamarr going to DT on passing downs also
Wimbley Houston Kelley Seymour
Groves McClain Curry
October 12th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
That coment makes no sence. NE has been a top team for the last decade.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Raiders 38 Cleveland 3
October 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Every team is a team we better respect. They are all NFL teams.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
It’s okay to say that so called team may surprise us if their Not good at us but how could u flat out predict raiders loss against a worse team
October 12th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
although Mr Curry will probably be pulled on passing downs
October 12th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
McFadden20
Im a fan alright, but im a realist too..
its a prediction score, right? not a hope
I hope we’ll win 112-0, but no-body in their right mind would predict that..
I think the browns QB is better than ours, think their run-d is better than ours and think their DC is way better than ours… to me that adds up to a loss.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
The Raiders don’t have to take a back seat to any team in talent.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
GG Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Remember when Al said this on Hue’s hire…
“The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.” – Al Davis
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God bless Al for this hire.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Were atop 6 team in the afc I believe and that’s all it takes to be in the playoffs , and anything can happen from there on..
October 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
all three other AFC West teams have a bye this week,
therefore this game is huge as we will either fall back a half game or surge ahead a half game.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Raiders 63
Browns 0
October 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
That coment makes no sence. NE has been a top team for the last decade.
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so were we at some point, NFL is made so no team stays on top forever… I think NE’s time as a sure Playoff-candidate is on the rebound…
October 12th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Their rb’s are not better than ours, Their O line is not better than ours. Their D line is not better than ours. Their Wr’s are not better than ours. Their punter and kicker are not better than ours, and their OC is not better than ours.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Just a another game we will easily
October 12th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I don’t know how good their defense really is. They have played three poor offensive teams, and the other team they played scored 30 points.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Win easily
October 12th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
379.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
McFadden20
Im a fan alright, but im a realist too..
its a prediction score, right? not a hope
I hope we’ll win 112-0, but no-body in their right mind would predict that..
I think the browns QB is better than ours, think their run-d is better than ours and think their DC is way better than ours… to me that adds up to a loss.
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they have scored 1 field goal in the 1st Q all season, we jump them early there toast.. I dont think colt is a btter QB than Jason.. Nor is Hillis to Dmac, na if Thomas and Haden dont play well enough said, no way the Raiders dont Win !!
October 12th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Yeah they suck
October 12th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Their rb’s are not better than ours, Their O line is not better than ours. Their D line is not better than ours. Their Wr’s are not better than ours. Their punter and kicker are not better than ours, and their OC is not better than ours.
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I agree, problem is not where that they are worse than us, problem is that on the points where we are worse than them..
Their QB is better, our run game will have a nice day agisnt our poor run-d and their DC is great, furthermore I think our injuries will men alot as well
but hey if we win, im one happy camper, if we lose and the score is my prediction (browns 30, raiders 26) i’ll be sad.. Im just assessing the teams and predicts a loss..
October 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I know you are a fan La Milicia because I have seen you on this board for years, but your prediction surprises me. The Raiders are a much more talented team and they are at home and we have the emotion of the Al Davis tribute.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Just saw CSN named last week’s play the immaculate interception. Very fitting.
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Very nice.
In the biggest games…
October 12th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Name ANY team in the NFL and we can come up with doomsday reasons why we lose that game.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I predicted Raiders 38, Browns 21. I wish I could take it back. Campbell putting up 38? What was I smoking? Oh well. It’s in. Hopefully the D will come through with a pick 6, and Hue isn’t afraid to run it up.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
i do not beleive colt is bette than jason (yet), i dont think there D can stop our O at all. But i appreciate your Opinon.. We will see soon enough.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Raiders 48-13
October 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
GG Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Raiders 63
Browns 0
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With Campbell at QB? That’s a lot of faith. Like the kind of faith when you’re on pcp.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
396.Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
I predicted Raiders 38, Browns 21. I wish I could take it back. Campbell putting up 38? What was I smoking? Oh well. It’s in. Hopefully the D will come through with a pick 6, and Hue isn’t afraid to run it up.
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Darren is going to run that score up for you, campbell just needs to what he has been doing.. Let the studs make the plays…
October 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
More Jacoby ..
And what happend to Boss last game?
October 12th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I don’t think their defense is as good as Houston, and we scored 25 against them with JC having a bad game.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Maybe Nnamdi is just bad luck?
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Don’t know if luck has anything to do with it, but there are winning players and there are losing players. And talent doesn’t seem to have anything to do with it. Guys like Mike Vick or LeBron James always seem to be winning. Then you get guys like Barry Bonds who didn’t win in high school, didn’t win at ASU and didn’t win in the pro’s. As soon as the SF Giants got rid of him they won. Nnamdi’s Cal team did not win, his pro team the Raiders did not win, and now Philly seems to be in trouble in with Vick. They might just not be winning players for whatever reason.
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Sounds kinda like luck to me. lol
October 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Let’s look at it this way , we went into Houston against a team that was better in almost every facet than browns are and we came up winners. This week were playing home against a team that is not good as Houston is so how in the hell could you predict a freaking loss
October 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
GG Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Raiders 63
Browns 0
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With Campbell at QB? That’s a lot of faith. Like the kind of faith when you’re on pcp.
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If by pcp you mean “perennial champion predictor” then yes.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
They have Nnamdi playing 2 over there. They put him in man, he takes one receiver out of the game. Maybe Al’s style is spreading across the league.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
I mean pcp as in the drug that makes people jump off of buildings, GG.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Eagles making same mistake with Nnamdi that we did with DeAngelo.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I know you are a fan La Milicia because I have seen you on this board for years, but your prediction surprises me. The Raiders are a much more talented team and they are at home and we have the emotion of the Al Davis tribute.
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The Al Davis Tribute is a factor worth mentioning, but hard to assess what it will mean when the game starts.
I said before the season that Bills and Browns games would be as tough as the NE’game, we are used to see NE as a team as a hard win, but I think what they are doing in Cleveland is worth noting..
and as far as talent, I think we are stacked on talent, but we hsve been for years, it all comes down to how you use that talent.
as far as claiming that Jason is better than Colt, I simply disagree, Jason is a sub-par QB, he is fine mid-field but chokes in the red-zone, actually most of the time he dinks-n-dunks..
Hillis is clearly a talented RB, McFadden is better, but not by much.
Their O-line is good so are ours..
I think it will be an even game, and the last drive might make it or brake it..
October 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Raiders 37-17 over the brown holes.
Game ball —-> Amy Trask
October 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
3-4 sounds nice & all, but we are a few year and a def coord. away from any of that
Plus coach waffles won a Sb with this 4-3 scheme, so just give these Lb a chance to grow before throwing the 4-3 away
October 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Raiders lose not blitzing and playing man.
Fired after game —> Amy Trask
October 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
This game will be over after 1st half raiders48-13
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Sullivan just stfu already biatch
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I think you have this one misjudged, but we will find out Sunday. I am out of here for the night. Bad luck on your prediction La Milicia.
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
djohnnyg Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Name ANY team in the NFL and we can come up with doomsday reasons why we lose that game.
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if we played Vikings on sunday, I think we would outscore them by 30!
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I just wish I could picture us putting up 40 with Campbell.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Raiders won last week Madden/Gruden style. Just came through.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Code black
October 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I think you have this one misjudged, but we will find out Sunday. I am out of here for the night. Bad luck on your prediction La Milicia.
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LOL, yeah lets hope im wrong!
Im out too, take care guys!
/LMN
October 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Raiders offense is going to go ballistic this game. Dmac 150+, DHB, Moore and Ford all 50-100 yards each, Campbell will air it out and be a bit more on the mark than previous weeks, a number of defensive tds, and janikowski with a few long-range FGs.
Btw, as ive said many times, campbell was the perfect QB post-Russell era, have someone capable, mostly turnover free, but also can remain fairly healthy and has a big enough arm for the Saunders Air Coryell offensive scheme. But his problem is being too cautious, not an aggressive brute. Pryor (if he can develop) could be the long-term guy. I’m high on Pryor, but time will tell. Gotta wait to see him in meaningful snaps first. It’s just like Newton or other players….everyone has valid opinions/analysis for/against a player, and no one will know which ends up right until time tells.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
It doesn’t matter which player did bad who was good In the game in the end we’re a team we win as a team we lose as a team
October 12th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
“Hillis is clearly a talented RB, McFadden is better, but not by much”
Not even close, yards are yards no doubt..but Hillis is one dimensional, Darren can do it all..
October 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Oakland Raiders
One Nation
Unda God
Committed To Excelence
And Destine To Ball
JustWinBaby
R.I.P Mr.Davis
October 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
I don’t care if the game ends 3-0 as long as thR raiders have those 3 points
October 12th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I just wish I could picture us putting up 40 with Campbell.
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It was probably just around this time last year when we trounced Denver w/ 59 pts.
I believe an injured JC was filling in for Garbagekowski
October 12th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
REALLIONAIREB Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Oakland Raiders
One Nation
Unda God
Committed To Excelence
And Destine To Ball
JustWinBaby
R.I.P Mr.Davis
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Well said . Just win baby
October 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
I mean pcp as in the drug that makes people jump off of buildings, GG.
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Sounds like you’re being prescribed the wrong medication.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I just wish I could picture us putting up 40 with Campbell.
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t we put up 59 with Campbell vs the Donks last year?
October 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
F()ck sully , just ignore his stupid banter
October 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Raiders won last week Madden/Gruden style. Just came through.
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douche bag, suck it.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Just win Babyyy…
We got this 4 -2
Leading rusher
Im Happy
Im out
Peace
October 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Exactly we would score over 40 for sure
October 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
HueKnow, I never said that Campbell would never put up 40 points in his entire life. Every dog gets its day in the sun. Just said it’s not typical. It’s hard to imagine. Last year’s Denver game noted. It’s not typical.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Peace Mamba
October 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
HueKnow, I never said that Campbell would never put up 40 points in his entire life. Every dog gets its day in the sun. Just said it’s not typical. It’s hard to imagine. Last year’s Denver game noted. It’s not typical.
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You said you couldn’t picture it. You don’t have to imagine just roll video
October 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
HueKnow, I never said that Campbell would never put up 40 points in his entire life. Every dog gets its day in the sun. Just said it’s not typical. It’s hard to imagine. Last year’s Denver game noted. It’s not typical.
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So typical of you always hating you know that we’re better o than last year right
October 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
In all seriousness, i think the raiders win and win well. A more realistic scoreline like mid-30s vs mid-teens. But i wanna have some fun rooting for a 63-0 score.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
HueKnow, I never said that Campbell would never put up 40 points in his entire life. Every dog gets its day in the sun. Just said it’s not typical. It’s hard to imagine. Last year’s Denver game noted. It’s not typical.
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You said you couldn’t picture it. You don’t have to imagine just roll video
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haha, burned there.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
GG Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
haha, remember this?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_17414571
We’ll know the Raiders have truly returned when defense secretary Robert Gates calls the Raiders “evil.”
By now the end-of-interview comment from former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld has made the rounds. Talking with the Financial Times on Super Bowl Sunday, Rumsfeld asked interviewer Gideon Rachman if he was rooting for the Steelers or the Packers.
Rachman said he was picking Pittsburgh “because of the epic games against the Oakland Raiders in the 1970s.”
Rumsfeld’s response?
“Nobody could support the Raiders. They’re evil.”
Nice isn’t it? Any outrage in Raider Nation is misplaced.
“Evil” sure beats “dysfunctional,” “inept” or “incompetent.” It harkens back to a time when the Raiders were feared instead of mocked.
The Raiders got some of that fear factor back last year in going 8-8 and looking dominant in some instances while doing it.
The next step?
Get rid of all the pre-snap penalties and don’t worry about the fouls of aggression. If Richard Seymour deems it appropriate to deck Ben Roethlisberger, make sure it happens in a win instead of a one-sided loss.
Where the Raiders are concerned, evil is good.
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I Like this thinking! Aggression & not stupidity. Pre-snap penalties are pure stupidity and a sign of lack of focus & discipline. We will get on top of the stupid penalties but aggression penalties can always be construed as 150% effort. I can let those go by as long as they don’t kill us.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
And, GG, why do you think we’ll only score 30 something as opposed to 60 something? What is the key reason? Don’t lie.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
And, GG, since you already admitted blind faith is playing a role in your prediction, you really have the Raiders under Campbell putting up 20 something, don’t you? If even that much? Be honest, GG.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Brien, if the Raiders lose next week, and they will, they won’t sell out their home opener. Ouch.
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Fraud. We’ve sold out every home game so far this season.
You claimed we wouldn’t even sell out the FIRST one.
Weasel.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/12/SPAG1LH01V.DTL
October 12th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
And, GG, why do you think we’ll only score 30 something as opposed to 60 something? What is the key reason? Don’t lie.
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I already explained why re: Campbell. He does limit our passing/receiving potential. He is inconsistent and too cautious. You’ll get some games where he is fairly accurate deep, other games he isn’t. other games he is too scared “to lose” and throws the deep ball more to the sideline/out of bounds. other games where he incessantly checks down to put a long drive on the table to give our defense a rest or protect a lead. This isn’t ALL JC’s fault. Part of it is defensive pressure, OL struggling on certain drives, OC/HC calling for a long sustained drive to kill clock and rest the D. etc.
Most of that whitewashing versus Denver and Seattle last year was due to McFadden himself. The amount of times JC has done an air-raid on the defense you could count on your hand. It can happen time from time. This week I think it will happen.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Raiders lose not blitzing and playing man.
Fired after game —> Amy Trask
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dude u just don’t like the raiders. Do you?
Y don’t u go be a steeler fan or colt fan NE fan
an post on there blog. Just gtfoh!!
October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
[BREAKING NEWS] Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/12/SPAG1LH01V.DTL
F that guy! Al should have kicked his arse! Where was Herrera?
October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
[BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
r8eray 38-17 Raiders
Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
October 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Ku-Kaw!!!
Goodnight Nation!!!
October 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
A couple of years ago, Davis disliked a column I wrote about him. It was a sympathetic column – the lion in winter, trying to carry on in the face of changing times and his own health problems.
A week later I ran into Davis in the Raiders’ nearly empty locker room after a game. He was in his walker. He cursed at me at some length, loudly, and closed his comments with, “If I was 15 years younger, I’d kick your f-in’ ass.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/08/SP891LFAS7.DTL#ixzz1adHBRDAc
October 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Yo Q
you gone add me bro?
October 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Qodrn Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
[BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
r8eray 38-17 Raiders
Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
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Al Davis’ Raiders 37, Brown holes 17
October 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
[BREAKING NEWS] Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/12/SPAG1LH01V.DTL
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thanks for posting it, very good article.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Raiders 42 browns 10
October 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
With the group of players we have right now, it has to be nerve-wracking for a team to travel to the black hole and play us at 10 am in the morning according to their mental inter-time clocks. Their in the most hostile enviroment know to man, the black hole and the raider fans, and they’ll be “quivering” in their shoes like a kid giving up his “cookie’s and milk money” during school recess.
We can expect a few big breakaway games where everything comes together and we score big time. This is it, this Sunday, even though the Brownies have a top ten defense. We’ll knock them out of that top ten spot when the game is over.
The emotion, the hard work and the coming together at the exact-right-time will fuel our players to a big victory. We’ll even see a reduction in penalties and a big first game from Jacoby Ford. Obviously, Darren is going to eat them up for more than 100 yards, way more.
I’m changing my score prediction.
Raiders 41 – Browns 13
October 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
HueKnows Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Qodrn Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
[BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
r8eray 38-17 Raiders
Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
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Al Davis’ Raiders 37, Brown holes 17
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Raiders 42 Browns 10
October 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
There internal clocks will be @ 4 pm
October 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
And thanks also for that other article link, BREAKING.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
GG Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
And thanks also for that other article link, BREAKING.
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The least I can do. Your welcome.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
September 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Brien, if the Raiders lose next week, and they will, they won’t sell out their home opener. Ouch.
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Fraud. We’ve sold out every home game so far this season.
You claimed we wouldn’t even sell out the FIRST one.
Weasel.
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See, when you sprinkle a little salt on the snail, he shrivels up and dies.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
You’ve teared me again, breaking, with that last article you posted.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
*teared me up
October 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Amy gave her impression of the fans: “I believe that the Raiders have the best fans in all of sports, and I relish any opportunity I have to meet and interact with our fans. When we are on the road, I have a pre-game ritual, in which I walk throughout the stadium and say hello to the Raider fans that I see in the stands. Wherever we play, our fans show up in force, and I like to express my appreciation. I also enjoy meeting Raider fans throughout the year at events and in various communities.”
Sullivan maybe you can meet Amy one day..oh yeah you’re not a fan
October 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_19100112?source=rss
There is a reason I canceled my S.I. subscription years ago. Cheap ass bastard of a fcking rag they are.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
I think someone should propose that idea to Raiders organization…the Raiders cemetry idea. Imagine how great that would be to visit it yearly, or fans around the nation/world can plan a trip to see it and pay their respects.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
JB post 440….Excellent post and so true. A good azz wipping puts the enemy at bay.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Al Davis’ Raiders: 57
Hershey Stains: 17
October 12th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Hue knows…
You’re so right…my bad. But, whatever, we’ll still kick their butts.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
MR/Sullivan/alex7 who ever you are
your constant findings are getting real old real fast
if u don’t wanna be a raider fan then don’t. Noone is asking u too
but going away may help your problem
oh an stop reading raider news an watching games. If u block them out
then u can focus on your true calling
October 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Qodrn,please take note,RAIDERS!!21 and the Jim less Browns,17
October 12th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
HEY Q! You missed my scores last week meng! It’s all good though…
here are mine for this week:
CLE 20 OAK 24
4-2 on our way to 6-2!
GO RAIDERS!!!
Curry eh?… that trade was already made before Al passed away. They were just working out the details. But for a 7th and a conditional on 2013? GREAT TRADE!
that’s AL all the way baby! If not, then that was Mark all the way. The fig doesn’t fall far from the tree!
October 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/d/al_davis/index.html?offset=0&s=newest
NY Times articles (about a hundred different articles to choose from) about Coach Davis.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
lmn,392,take a nap,you will feel better!You drinkin German Beer,that explains it!
October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Anyone who thinks Colt McCoy is better than jason Campbell is either drunk or clueless……….period
October 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
My score prediction said it all.
Beatdown in the town!!!
October 12th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Anyone who thinks Colt McCoy is better than jason Campbell is either drunk or clueless……….period
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Or Both!!
October 12th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Qudrn – Please remove all trolls from the list. They don’t deservre to participate. thank you.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
I haven’t seen Colt McCoy, but Jason Campbell isn’t very good.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Curry may surprise all of us! Who knows, McClain and Curry may actually feed off one another and be a beast duo out there…but then again, there is always the opposite! I am staying with the positive!
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Or maybe the addition of Curry let’s McClain hear footsteps and helps him step his game up a notch.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
You guys going to the game this Sunday need to understand the magnitude of this event.
You will be the first group to witness a Raiders home game without the presence of Al Davis in 45 years.
I just can’t express the feeling I have from being at that game in Houston.
If you don’t have tickets, do what you have to do to get one. Just Go Baby!
You will be part of history. It will be talked about for years to come in football lore.
I witnessed the Immaculate Interception “Missing Man Formation” and I will never forget it.
Don’t let this chance pass you by.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
474,Tj,BOTH
October 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
ON THE SUBJECT OF CURRY:
We got him for a 7th in 2012 and probably 5th in 2013. Not what one would call a king’s ransom. Sure we will pay him more than minimum but so what? We are used to overpaying especially if in the long run we realize big dividends. So, the guy crapped out in Seattle. Ever think it might not be him but rather Seattle? Point in fact, ZMiller who we know is a decent player isn’t doing schit in Seattle. It’s entirely possible that the culture there is not conducive for certain type athletes to flourish. It happens. Oakland has a rich history of taking past 1st round “losers” and making them stars. The list of successes is long and impressive. I view Curry as fantastic potential at a bargain basement price. His upside is enormous and this in an area of need for us – LB. I have full faith & confidence in HuJack and his asst. coaches to get the most out of our players and more important, the ability to identify the real losers and ability to get rid of them in a timely fashion.
Without a doubt, this is an AL deal – maybe one of his all-time best. We should know in a month or two if we’ve got a winner or a loser. Either way, it didn’t really cost us anything and if it turns out he’s a winner, we all just hit the Lotto – Al fashion.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
The way I see it is.
People act like JC came from NE or NO
where a system had been in place. Wash has been less than stellar for the most part of the decade. He showed what he can do in a consistent system. Hell he took auburn to a national championship. Give him consistency here an were talking at least one SB
an PB
just needed a system to be consistent. As a matter of fact didn’t he change coordinators in college once too.
Anyway with the same system in place he can only get better. This kid has not hit his ceiling yet. Just wait he will show you better than I can tell you.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
…Their O line is not better than ours. …
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Now hearken back to before the season started. Who would have predicted that we’d be able to say a statement like this with any sort of credibility?
This O-line may not be great, but they are sure surprising the hell out of me, and probably most of you. What was all the talk preseason?
- Carlisle is garbage! Anyone would be better than him.
- They’re bringing back Satele? We’re doomed.
- All of the options at RT suck
- Little Wiz doesn’t have long enough arms to play at this level.
- Valdeheer can’t handle speed rushers. Campbell is going to die!
- And so on ….
Anyone concerned at this point?
October 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
I believe both as well…….you may not like JC but to say McCoy is better is a joke!
You give JC some experienced WR’s and he will look a lot better he’s playing with a rookie and 2nd year and 3rd year players who are still learning. Our most experienced WR is a journeyman who’s been cut twice eventhough he is a good player he’s not established starter. JC is still getting on the same page with these guys and gaining confidence in them as well as himself. This may take a year to gel but JC is a much better player than McCoy may ever be.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Aaron Curry not an instant answer
October, 12, 2011
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Anytime a team can get a top-five picks less than three years after he entered the NFL for a minimal cost it’s a deal worth doing.
Aaron Curry
#59 LB
Seattle Seahawks
2011 STATS
Tot
22
Solo
16
Ast
6
FF
0
Sack
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Int
0However, I wouldn’t go so far as to say the Oakland Raiders’ defensive issues are solved by the acquisition of Aaron Curry. He will get a chance to compete for playing time and he will be given a chance to resurrect his career, but, by no means is Curry currently considered a top-notch player.
But if the Raiders can get the best out of Curry, it will be a good deal for the team down the road.
Essentially, this is a low-risk endeavor for a team that has long taken on players such as Curry. He was the No. 4 overall pick in the 2009 by Seattle. He lost his starting job this year.
Curry is physically imposing player at 260 pounds. But he didn’t show strong instincts and his toughness has been questioned. He has been a disappointing pass-rusher.
Still, he may benefit from a change of scenery. The Raiders have long been a willing taker of wayward first-round picks. Quarterbacks Jason Campbell and Kyle Boller and linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and defensive end Jarvis Moss are players who have found varying forms of success in Oakland after struggling as first-round picks elsewhere.
Now, Curry has a chance for his own Oakland revival. Just don’t expect the No. 4 overall pick in the draft to show up.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Something special is in the air. Lightning in a bottle.
Raiders roll the Browns.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
ON THE SUBJECT OF SOUP:
JC is doing just fine. He’s like a good wine getting better with time. He careful with the ball (a good thing) and he’s settling into his job while getting more comfortable. The more comfortable he gets he better he will get. He’s without a doubt the best QB we’ve had since Gannon and I believe he has the potential to be even better. watch his latest presser and tell me he’s not getting comfortable.
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Campbell-Media-Session-10-12-11/a294b187-7d5b-435f-8e6a-07548f15359a
Jason is growing, as are all the other young players on this team. Keep him in the same offensive system and there’s no telling how good he can really get. Just sit back and let it happen.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Now hearken back to before the season started. Who would have predicted that we’d be able to say a statement like this with any sort of credibility?
This O-line may not be great, but they are sure surprising the hell out of me, and probably most of you. What was all the talk preseason?
- Carlisle is garbage! Anyone would be better than him.
- They’re bringing back Satele? We’re doomed.
- All of the options at RT suck
- Little Wiz doesn’t have long enough arms to play at this level.
- Valdeheer can’t handle speed rushers. Campbell is going to die!
- And so on ….
Anyone concerned at this point?___
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not all of us felt this way. Gotta go back an read the posts.
But I was never worried cuz this same oline less gallery an walker produced a top 5 rusher last season. Man if you went back an read previous post some people on here were harsh
on alot of topics.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Curry may well take a minute who knows, the point is he is very talented and young he will get better and better if you use him to do what he does BEST. Whatever that is don’t ask him to do what YOU KNOW he doesn’t do well. That how we’ve always been successful with castoffs we don’t ask them to fit in, we fit them in.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Post 488
I said the same sh*t yesterday.
I totally agree with u
October 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
#490
Good point TJ. 100% cortrect and I believe that is also HuJack’s montra. Find out what they do best and put them in a position to be successful. That approach resurrected DMac from Crap to top of the heap. Call plays that he can excel in and turn him loose. It’s a proven approach.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Numbers don’t lie, only people lie.
In his second season in only four games and without a running back like Darren McFadden, Colt McCoy has…
TDS
6
INT
3
YDS
984
RTG
78.7
In his seventh season in five games and with Darren McFadden and the best O line in football, Jason Campbell has….
TDS
6
INT
4
YDS
1,118
RTG
84.3
Pretty much a wash if you ask me. Neither of these guys is going to the Pro Bowl.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Curry may well take a minute who knows, the point is he is very talented and young he will get better and better if you use him to do what he does BEST. Whatever that is don’t ask him to do what YOU KNOW he doesn’t do well. That how we’ve always been successful with castoffs we don’t ask them to fit in, we fit them in.
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truth brother truth.
Aaron curry will be a beast here.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Qodrn Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents
First: Ghostraider (exact score)
Second: Sullivan44
Third: Pretty Rick
Fourth: Sullivan44
Fifth: Fingers
[BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
r8eray 38-17 Raiders
Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
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Al Davis’ Raiders 31
Expansion Browns 13
October 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Kirk Says:
October 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Numbers don’t lie, only people lie.
Pretty much a wash if you ask me. Neither of these guys is going to the Pro Bowl.
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Our goal is not to get to the Pro Bowl. That’s more of an individual accomplishment. Our goal is to win the Super Bowl and that’s done with the total team approach. So those numbers really don’t mean a whole lot as it applies to our real goal. Just saying…
October 12th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
I know most have already heard the interview but listen and it’s exactly what I see when I see these deep balls it’s NOT just the QB it’s the entire battery.http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Campbell-Media-Session-10-12-11/a294b187-7d5b-435f-8e6a-07548f15359a
October 12th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
CasserlyCBS Charley Casserly
by CorkOnTheNFL
Gd trade for Rdrs for Curry. Play him at Sam(LB over TE). And rush him on 3rd down. Change of teams should help confidence
October 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
You give JC some experienced WR’s and he will look a lot better he’s playing with a rookie and 2nd year and 3rd year players who are still learning. Our most experienced WR is a journeyman who’s been cut twice eventhough he is a good player he’s not established starter. JC is still getting on the same page with these guys and gaining confidence in them as well as himself. This may take a year to gel but JC is a much better player than McCoy may ever be.
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Sorry, but that’s just excuses. TB’s top 3 WRs are all 2nd year players, and the QB is only in his 3rd year. Vick/Kolb had Maclin, Jackson and Avant with a combined 6 years exp last season and did alright.
JC has a high 1st round pick in his 3rd season in DHB, and in the last two games he’s had two veteran possession guys in Schilens and Hagan, two young guys that make a QB look good with their ability to go up and get bad balls named Ford and Moore, a proven 4th year TE AND probably the most explosive set RB/FB receivers in the game with DMac and Reese combined. (OK, no Reese last game). To say that he doesn’t have decent options, or at least that his receiving corp is what’s holding him back is pure BS. No, these guys aren’t Larry Fitzgerald’s, but picture what they’d do with Manning, Brees, Rogers, etc throwing to them. They’d be lights out!
The fact is, JC is just a half second slow in his ability to read a defense (3 or 4 delay of games so far while trying to audible), his ability to spot a man breaking free, and in reacting to the blitz to find the hot routes. A great example was his brain fart interception in NE game when he was trying to throw the ball out of the back of the end zone. In his heat of the battle decision making, it apparently didn’t occur to him that it was safer to throw it through the uprights than to try to drop it into a dead spot (that was occupied) in the back of the end zone.
There’s a reason why he’s at his best when scrambling around the pocket. It lets him pop out on one side of the heat, to find one close target to focus on, and to make a nice touch pass to lead him. The point being that it takes away a lot of variables and simplifies his options, at which point he shows that he has the other tools to make it happen.
What it comes down to is that he just doesn’t have the head to be anything better than a mediocre QB at the NFL level. Combine that with the fact that he’s not accurate enough with the deep ball, and what we’re seeing is what we’re going to get. He’s not going to improve more than marginally. And God help us if the running game stops working and the defense starts playing pass first defense.
Trent Dilfer and the Ravens proved that you can win the SB with a conservative, game manager QB that can make the easy plays but not win for you if you need come from behind passing. The best we can hope for IMO opinion is that JC can be that. The Raiders do have the running game to win a championship and they have the defensive front to play at that level. Hopefully, Hue’s creativity on offense makes up for the gaps. If not, it’s going to be time to see what Boller can do to get over the hump and really open up the offense.
And don’t even go there with Pryor. Dumb as a stick, run first QBs do not do well in the NFL. Especially when they are rookies that missed most of training camp as well as the first 5 games of the season. The first snap that Pryor takes, other than in a gimmick wild cat like offense, shouldn’t happen at least until next preseason.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
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October 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
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October 12th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Campbell ain’t no Trent Dilfer lol
Jason Campbell is well….Jason Campbell
October 13th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Well i didn’t see anybody go up and get any passes this past game and the ball was dropping right in front of them it’s a battery man he throws it they have to catch it. Schaub’s guys were making incredible catches ours weren’t it’s on film……………period
October 13th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Rob_raider Says:
October 13th, 2011 at 12:06 am
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October 12th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
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October 12th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
666, did you know the Raiders are the second least profitable team in football? So do enlighten me as to how Amy Trask is “successful”.
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STFU. That’s how.
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LOL! exactly!
October 13th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Rob_raider Says:
October 13th, 2011 at 12:11 am
the curry trade is a good one. low risk-high reward. looks like he’ll help run defense at SLB, and nimbly will play more DE, w/ shaughnessy out. he may not have fulfilled expectations in seattle, but he is undoubtedly better than any street free agent out there, and he could do at least as well as moss has. question is w/ curry and pryor coming aboard, who will be let go?
i think murphy could be traded. i think myers could be in danger. tonga has to stay for now. so does parker. i would say giordano but he’s been playing a lot. maybe t.scott.
anyway, great job Al! u taught ur people well. they made a nice trade just the way u would have.
suck it sullivan!
October 13th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Jeez, Seahawk fan is painfully stupid. Just had to take some of those goons to the woodshed on ESPN’s comment board.
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