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Size, speed, draft status still king in Oakland

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If you’re looking for signs of how things might change in light of the passing of managing general partner Al Davis, the first evidence came in the form of increased blitzing against the Houston Texans on Sunday.
However, the trade for outside linebacker Aaron Curry on Wednesday is proof that some things aren’t going to change anytime soon.
Curry was the fourth pick of the 2009 NFL draft by the Seattle Seahawks. The Raiders used the No. 7 pick of that draft on wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Many of the so-called draft experts regarded Curry as the best athlete in the draft that year. Sports Illustrated’s Peter King said Davis wanted Curry in a big way.
Well, the Raiders now have Curry. That gives the Raiders seven first-round draft picks on defense and 12 overall on their 53-man roster.
It remains to be seen how Curry will be used. He is fast, athletic, talented and versatile. At the same time, he arrives with a reputation for lacking football instincts.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson didn’t mention the trade during his news conference after practice. None of the players seemed aware of the transaction, either.

BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK AT RAIDERS-TEXANS GAME ON VERSUS
The good folk at Versus television not only are featuring a behind-the-scenes look at the Raiders-Texans game Thursday at 7 and 10 p.m. PDT on “Turning Point,” but they provided a sneak peek for you to look at beforehand.
Here is the link, with a huge thank you to Versus for providing the advance clip. Enjoy:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d82310dff/Turning-Point-Raiders-vs-Texans

PENALTIES PROBLEM PERSISTS
Try though he may, coach Hue Jackson can’t seem to get a handle on the Raiders penchant for committing penalties at an alarming rate.
They committed 11 for 89 yards against the Houston Texans on Sunday. That upped their totals to 50 for 445 yards through five games.
The Raiders lead the league by six over runner-up Tampa Bay and by 85 yards over the Buccaneers and Arizona Cardinals.
Once again, Jackson enlisted the services of three local officials at practice Wednesday.

BROWNS WOWED BY MCFADDEN
Add the Cleveland Browns to the ever-growing list of believers in Raiders running back Darren McFadden being, perhaps, the league’s best all-around back.
Browns linebacker Scott Fujita played against McFadden during the early part of McFadden’s career, when he looked nothing like the explosive player he was at Arkansas. He said the McFadden he sees on videotape now is an eye-opener.
“He looks like a different guy,” Fujita said. “He is running hungry and he is playing with a lot of swagger right now. He is such a big, physical guy, if you let him get to the perimeter and he gets in the open field, the things he’s doing with the ball
right now are very impressive. He’s obviously got big home-run speed and he just seems so strong, taking on tacklers and stiff-arming the hell out of everybody.”
Browns coach Pat Shurmur is equally impressed. He says McFadden can’t be stopped. The key is limiting the damage he does.
“I don’t know why he wouldn’t be (regarded as) one of the best runners in the league,” Shurmur said. “He’s very, very dangerous. When you give the ball or toss the ball or throw the ball to somebody that can go the distance, then you’ve got a running back that can change the game. That’s what he gives the Raiders.”

RAIDERS INJURIES UPDATE
Here’s Jackson’s recitation of the injury report from practice Wednesday: “Murphy, full. Satele limited. Cartwright did not participate. Reece did not participate. Gordon did not participate. Myers, full. Campbell, full. McClain did not participate. Seymour, limited. Shaughnessy did not participate. Chekwa did not participate. Giordano, full. Huff, limited. CJohnson, limited. Mitchell, full.”
In summary, the six who didn’t participate, at this point are the ones who aren’t expected to play Sunday against the Browns. That could change if any of them return to practice Thursday or Friday. Jackson doesn’t like using players in games if they don’t practice the week before.

SEABASS TAKES IT NICE AND EASY
Kicking a football 50 yards or longer is no different to Sebastian Janikowski than one from 30 or 40 yards, he said. He takes the same approach, same leg swing, everything.
That works for him, whereas few others have been able to match his distance, consistency and accuracy. He converted all three of his field-goal attempts from 50 yards and longer Sunday, making him 5-of-6 from that range this season.
“I had a good warm-up and kicking in a dome was really nice,” Janikowski said. “It’s always better there. I was stroking the ball really nice. I didn’t know it was going to be 3 for 3 on 50s.”
For his efforts, Janikowski was named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week.
“It feels really good to know that you go on the other side of the 50(-yard line), you got a guy, if you look at him, he goes, ‘OK, you say go kick it,’ ” Jackson said. “That’s how good he is. I don’t want to jinx him. The guy’s a tremendous player, and I have so much confidence in him.”
Shurmur calls Janikowski a threat any time the Raiders reach midfield.
“You can’t let them cross midfield,” Shurmur said. “That’s the thing. He’s got a strong leg. I watched the game the other night, the Houston game, and watched it on TV. It’s just amazing how string his leg is and how accurate it is from a long way away. You just have to count on the fact that once the Raiders cross midfield they have a chance to get three points.”

PRYOR MAKES 2011 DEBUT
Rookie quarterback Terrelle Pryor practiced with his teammates Wednesday for the first time since his five-game suspension ended.
Jackson said he is eager to get a long look at Pryor and get a feel for what he can do. Quarterback Jason Campbell said Pryor isn’t afraid to assert himself in meetings.
“He talks,” Campbell said. “He’s really quiet but, at the same time, he still talks. He’ll come up with suggestions. He’ll write it on the board – ‘I think we should do this on this play.’ So I said, ‘What are you our consultant now?’ ”
Pryor talks in meetings, but he has spoken with the Bay Area media only once since he was taken in the third round of the supplemental draft in late August.
For the second time this week, he declined an interview request. He said today that he was late for a meeting.

NON-STORY GETS LEGS
Three weeks ago, people latched on to New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez eating a hot dog on the sideline of a game against the Raiders in 2009.
The non-story of the week this week is that the Raiders had only 10 players on the field for the final play of the Houston Texans game Sunday.
It’s a non-story because free safety Michael Huff intercepted Matt Schaub’s pass in the end zone to preserve the Raiders 25-20 victory.
Now, had Schaub completed the pass for a game-winning touchdown, it would have been quite a story, indeed.
“I’m just glad it worked out the way it did,” cornerback Stanford Routt said. “If it didn’t, boy, that’d be an ugly Monday morning.”
Again, the Raiders still won the game, folks, and improved to 3-2. That’s the real story.
For the record, it was backup safety Jerome Boyd who was supposed to be on the field for the final play. He and safety Mike Mitchell were assigned to double team tight end Joel Dreessen. As it were, Mitchell handled the job by himself.
Boyd said he saw two defensive linemen run on the field before the final play and only one coming out.
“It was just a miscommunication,” Boyd said. “I didn’t want to be an extra person on the field.”
End of non-story.

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  • Yo Q
    you gone add me bro?

  • HueKnows

    Qodrn Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers

    [BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
    21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
    860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
    909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
    alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
    fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
    GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
    ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
    Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
    JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
    John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
    La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
    mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
    No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
    qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
    r8eray 38-17 Raiders
    Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
    raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
    raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
    Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
    realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
    rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
    StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
    Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
    Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
    Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
    =========================
    Al Davis’ Raiders 37, Brown holes 17

  • GG

    [BREAKING NEWS] Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/12/SPAG1LH01V.DTL

    —-

    thanks for posting it, very good article.

  • Raiders 42 browns 10

  • Hagar the Horrible

    With the group of players we have right now, it has to be nerve-wracking for a team to travel to the black hole and play us at 10 am in the morning according to their mental inter-time clocks. Their in the most hostile enviroment know to man, the black hole and the raider fans, and they’ll be “quivering” in their shoes like a kid giving up his “cookie’s and milk money” during school recess.

    We can expect a few big breakaway games where everything comes together and we score big time. This is it, this Sunday, even though the Brownies have a top ten defense. We’ll knock them out of that top ten spot when the game is over.

    The emotion, the hard work and the coming together at the exact-right-time will fuel our players to a big victory. We’ll even see a reduction in penalties and a big first game from Jacoby Ford. Obviously, Darren is going to eat them up for more than 100 yards, way more.

    I’m changing my score prediction.

    Raiders 41 – Browns 13

  • HueKnows Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    Qodrn Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers

    [BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
    21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
    860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
    909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
    alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
    fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
    GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
    ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
    Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
    JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
    John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
    La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
    mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
    No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
    qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
    r8eray 38-17 Raiders
    Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
    raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
    raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
    Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
    realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
    rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
    StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
    Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
    Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
    Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17
    =========================
    Al Davis’ Raiders 37, Brown holes 17
    ____________________
    Raiders 42 Browns 10

  • HueKnows

    There internal clocks will be @ 4 pm

  • GG

    And thanks also for that other article link, BREAKING.

  • GG Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    And thanks also for that other article link, BREAKING.
    —————————
    The least I can do. Your welcome.

  • ArmChair GM

    Sullivan44 Says:
    September 14th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Brien, if the Raiders lose next week, and they will, they won’t sell out their home opener. Ouch.
    _______________________________________________________

    Fraud. We’ve sold out every home game so far this season.

    You claimed we wouldn’t even sell out the FIRST one.
    Weasel.
    _____________________________________________________

    See, when you sprinkle a little salt on the snail, he shrivels up and dies.

  • GG

    You’ve teared me again, breaking, with that last article you posted.

  • GG

    *teared me up

  • HueKnows

    Amy gave her impression of the fans: “I believe that the Raiders have the best fans in all of sports, and I relish any opportunity I have to meet and interact with our fans. When we are on the road, I have a pre-game ritual, in which I walk throughout the stadium and say hello to the Raider fans that I see in the stands. Wherever we play, our fans show up in force, and I like to express my appreciation. I also enjoy meeting Raider fans throughout the year at events and in various communities.”

    Sullivan maybe you can meet Amy one day..oh yeah you’re not a fan

  • http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_19100112?source=rss

    There is a reason I canceled my S.I. subscription years ago. Cheap ass bastard of a fcking rag they are.

  • GG

    I think someone should propose that idea to Raiders organization…the Raiders cemetry idea. Imagine how great that would be to visit it yearly, or fans around the nation/world can plan a trip to see it and pay their respects.

  • Hagar the Horrible

    JB post 440….Excellent post and so true. A good azz wipping puts the enemy at bay.

  • mikedlopes

    Al Davis’ Raiders: 57
    Hershey Stains: 17

  • Hagar the Horrible

    Hue knows…

    You’re so right…my bad. But, whatever, we’ll still kick their butts.

  • MR/Sullivan/alex7 who ever you are
    your constant findings are getting real old real fast
    if u don’t wanna be a raider fan then don’t. Noone is asking u too
    but going away may help your problem
    oh an stop reading raider news an watching games. If u block them out
    then u can focus on your true calling

  • hendu

    Qodrn,please take note,RAIDERS!!21 and the Jim less Browns,17

  • EMRaiders

    HEY Q! You missed my scores last week meng! It’s all good though…

    here are mine for this week:

    CLE 20 OAK 24

    4-2 on our way to 6-2!

    GO RAIDERS!!!

    Curry eh?… that trade was already made before Al passed away. They were just working out the details. But for a 7th and a conditional on 2013? GREAT TRADE!

    that’s AL all the way baby! If not, then that was Mark all the way. The fig doesn’t fall far from the tree!

  • http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/d/al_davis/index.html?offset=0&s=newest

    NY Times articles (about a hundred different articles to choose from) about Coach Davis. 😐

  • hendu

    lmn,392,take a nap,you will feel better!You drinkin German Beer,that explains it!

  • priesttj

    Anyone who thinks Colt McCoy is better than jason Campbell is either drunk or clueless……….period

  • My score prediction said it all.
    Beatdown in the town!!!

  • Priesttj Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
    Anyone who thinks Colt McCoy is better than jason Campbell is either drunk or clueless……….period
    ________________
    Or Both!!

  • No Mas Diamante

    Qudrn – Please remove all trolls from the list. They don’t deservre to participate. thank you.

  • Kirk

    I haven’t seen Colt McCoy, but Jason Campbell isn’t very good.

  • Curry may surprise all of us! Who knows, McClain and Curry may actually feed off one another and be a beast duo out there…but then again, there is always the opposite! I am staying with the positive!

    Or maybe the addition of Curry let’s McClain hear footsteps and helps him step his game up a notch.

  • You guys going to the game this Sunday need to understand the magnitude of this event.

    You will be the first group to witness a Raiders home game without the presence of Al Davis in 45 years.

    I just can’t express the feeling I have from being at that game in Houston.

    If you don’t have tickets, do what you have to do to get one. Just Go Baby!

    You will be part of history. It will be talked about for years to come in football lore.

    I witnessed the Immaculate Interception “Missing Man Formation” and I will never forget it.

    Don’t let this chance pass you by.

  • hendu

    474,Tj,BOTH

  • JB

    ON THE SUBJECT OF CURRY:

    We got him for a 7th in 2012 and probably 5th in 2013. Not what one would call a king’s ransom. Sure we will pay him more than minimum but so what? We are used to overpaying especially if in the long run we realize big dividends. So, the guy crapped out in Seattle. Ever think it might not be him but rather Seattle? Point in fact, ZMiller who we know is a decent player isn’t doing schit in Seattle. It’s entirely possible that the culture there is not conducive for certain type athletes to flourish. It happens. Oakland has a rich history of taking past 1st round “losers” and making them stars. The list of successes is long and impressive. I view Curry as fantastic potential at a bargain basement price. His upside is enormous and this in an area of need for us – LB. I have full faith & confidence in HuJack and his asst. coaches to get the most out of our players and more important, the ability to identify the real losers and ability to get rid of them in a timely fashion.

    Without a doubt, this is an AL deal – maybe one of his all-time best. We should know in a month or two if we’ve got a winner or a loser. Either way, it didn’t really cost us anything and if it turns out he’s a winner, we all just hit the Lotto – Al fashion.

  • The way I see it is.
    People act like JC came from NE or NO
    where a system had been in place. Wash has been less than stellar for the most part of the decade. He showed what he can do in a consistent system. Hell he took auburn to a national championship. Give him consistency here an were talking at least one SB
    an PB

    just needed a system to be consistent. As a matter of fact didn’t he change coordinators in college once too.
    Anyway with the same system in place he can only get better. This kid has not hit his ceiling yet. Just wait he will show you better than I can tell you.

  • …Their O line is not better than ours. …

    Now hearken back to before the season started. Who would have predicted that we’d be able to say a statement like this with any sort of credibility?

    This O-line may not be great, but they are sure surprising the hell out of me, and probably most of you. What was all the talk preseason?
    – Carlisle is garbage! Anyone would be better than him.
    – They’re bringing back Satele? We’re doomed.
    – All of the options at RT suck
    – Little Wiz doesn’t have long enough arms to play at this level.
    – Valdeheer can’t handle speed rushers. Campbell is going to die!
    – And so on ….

    Anyone concerned at this point?

  • priesttj

    I believe both as well…….you may not like JC but to say McCoy is better is a joke!

    You give JC some experienced WR’s and he will look a lot better he’s playing with a rookie and 2nd year and 3rd year players who are still learning. Our most experienced WR is a journeyman who’s been cut twice eventhough he is a good player he’s not established starter. JC is still getting on the same page with these guys and gaining confidence in them as well as himself. This may take a year to gel but JC is a much better player than McCoy may ever be.

  • raidertay

    Aaron Curry not an instant answer
    October, 12, 2011
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    By Bill Williamson
    Anytime a team can get a top-five picks less than three years after he entered the NFL for a minimal cost it’s a deal worth doing.

    Aaron Curry
    #59 LB
    Seattle Seahawks
    2011 STATS
    Tot
    22
    Solo
    16
    Ast
    6
    FF
    0
    Sack
    0.0
    Int
    0However, I wouldn’t go so far as to say the Oakland Raiders’ defensive issues are solved by the acquisition of Aaron Curry. He will get a chance to compete for playing time and he will be given a chance to resurrect his career, but, by no means is Curry currently considered a top-notch player.

    But if the Raiders can get the best out of Curry, it will be a good deal for the team down the road.

    Essentially, this is a low-risk endeavor for a team that has long taken on players such as Curry. He was the No. 4 overall pick in the 2009 by Seattle. He lost his starting job this year.

    Curry is physically imposing player at 260 pounds. But he didn’t show strong instincts and his toughness has been questioned. He has been a disappointing pass-rusher.

    Still, he may benefit from a change of scenery. The Raiders have long been a willing taker of wayward first-round picks. Quarterbacks Jason Campbell and Kyle Boller and linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and defensive end Jarvis Moss are players who have found varying forms of success in Oakland after struggling as first-round picks elsewhere.

    Now, Curry has a chance for his own Oakland revival. Just don’t expect the No. 4 overall pick in the draft to show up.

  • Something special is in the air. Lightning in a bottle.

    Raiders roll the Browns.

  • JB

    ON THE SUBJECT OF SOUP:

    JC is doing just fine. He’s like a good wine getting better with time. He careful with the ball (a good thing) and he’s settling into his job while getting more comfortable. The more comfortable he gets he better he will get. He’s without a doubt the best QB we’ve had since Gannon and I believe he has the potential to be even better. watch his latest presser and tell me he’s not getting comfortable.

    http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Campbell-Media-Session-10-12-11/a294b187-7d5b-435f-8e6a-07548f15359a

    Jason is growing, as are all the other young players on this team. Keep him in the same offensive system and there’s no telling how good he can really get. Just sit back and let it happen.

  • Now hearken back to before the season started. Who would have predicted that we’d be able to say a statement like this with any sort of credibility?

    This O-line may not be great, but they are sure surprising the hell out of me, and probably most of you. What was all the talk preseason?
    – Carlisle is garbage! Anyone would be better than him.
    – They’re bringing back Satele? We’re doomed.
    – All of the options at RT suck
    – Little Wiz doesn’t have long enough arms to play at this level.
    – Valdeheer can’t handle speed rushers. Campbell is going to die!
    – And so on ….

    Anyone concerned at this point?___
    _________________
    not all of us felt this way. Gotta go back an read the posts.
    But I was never worried cuz this same oline less gallery an walker produced a top 5 rusher last season. Man if you went back an read previous post some people on here were harsh
    on alot of topics.

  • priesttj

    Curry may well take a minute who knows, the point is he is very talented and young he will get better and better if you use him to do what he does BEST. Whatever that is don’t ask him to do what YOU KNOW he doesn’t do well. That how we’ve always been successful with castoffs we don’t ask them to fit in, we fit them in.

  • Post 488

    I said the same sh*t yesterday.
    I totally agree with u

  • JB

    #490

    Good point TJ. 100% cortrect and I believe that is also HuJack’s montra. Find out what they do best and put them in a position to be successful. That approach resurrected DMac from Crap to top of the heap. Call plays that he can excel in and turn him loose. It’s a proven approach.

  • Kirk

    Numbers don’t lie, only people lie.

    In his second season in only four games and without a running back like Darren McFadden, Colt McCoy has…

    TDS
    6
    INT
    3
    YDS
    984
    RTG
    78.7

    In his seventh season in five games and with Darren McFadden and the best O line in football, Jason Campbell has….

    TDS
    6
    INT
    4
    YDS
    1,118
    RTG
    84.3

    Pretty much a wash if you ask me. Neither of these guys is going to the Pro Bowl.

  • Priesttj Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    Curry may well take a minute who knows, the point is he is very talented and young he will get better and better if you use him to do what he does BEST. Whatever that is don’t ask him to do what YOU KNOW he doesn’t do well. That how we’ve always been successful with castoffs we don’t ask them to fit in, we fit them in.
    __________________
    truth brother truth.
    Aaron curry will be a beast here.

  • Qodrn Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
    Dedicated to the legacy of Al Davis
    Protected by the rally squirrel and Coliseum rodents

    First: Ghostraider (exact score)
    Second: Sullivan44
    Third: Pretty Rick
    Fourth: Sullivan44
    Fifth: Fingers

    [BREAKING NEWS]Oakland 42 Browns 10
    21st Century Raider Raiders 38 Browns 7
    860Todd Christensen Raiders 31 Cleveland 13
    909RaiderLifer RAIDERS–45 SKIDMARKS—16
    alex7 Raiders 27 Browns 20 Defensive/ST touchdown for Oakland
    Blackmamba_20 Raiders 33 Browns 16
    fingers Raiders..30 Browns 20
    GG Raiders 63 Browns 0
    ghostraiders Raiders 31. Cleveland 13.
    Hagar the Horrible Raiders 34 – Browns 10
    JLofty Raiders 55 – Skidmarks 18 (garbage-time points)
    John Tweedy Raiders 38 BrownStains 10
    La Milicia Negra Raiders 26 Browns 30
    mcfadden20. raiders 48-13
    No Mas Diamante RAIDERS 27 BROWNS 16
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 38 Beige 9
    qodrn Raiders 28 Browns 10
    r8eray 38-17 Raiders
    Raiderjambo RAIDERS 45 brownies 10.
    raiderkoolaid Raiders 30 Cleveland 17
    raidermarty RAIDERS 41 browns 14 CODE BLACK!!
    Raiders_83 Raiders 45 Browns 9
    realtruraider Raiders 34 Browns 13
    rob_raider raiders 38 browns 6
    Silverandblack666 Raiders 35 Browns 13
    StayinBlack Raiders 37 Browns 13
    Sullivan44 Raiders 38, Brownies 21
    Tjbwall Raiders 34 Browns 17
    Zymurge Raiders 23, Browns 17

    ::::::::::::::

    Al Davis’ Raiders 31

    Expansion Browns 13

  • JB

    Kirk Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Numbers don’t lie, only people lie.

    Pretty much a wash if you ask me. Neither of these guys is going to the Pro Bowl.
    ***********************

    Our goal is not to get to the Pro Bowl. That’s more of an individual accomplishment. Our goal is to win the Super Bowl and that’s done with the total team approach. So those numbers really don’t mean a whole lot as it applies to our real goal. Just saying…

  • priesttj

    I know most have already heard the interview but listen and it’s exactly what I see when I see these deep balls it’s NOT just the QB it’s the entire battery.http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Campbell-Media-Session-10-12-11/a294b187-7d5b-435f-8e6a-07548f15359a

  • JB

    CasserlyCBS Charley Casserly
    by CorkOnTheNFL
    Gd trade for Rdrs for Curry. Play him at Sam(LB over TE). And rush him on 3rd down. Change of teams should help confidence

  • You give JC some experienced WR’s and he will look a lot better he’s playing with a rookie and 2nd year and 3rd year players who are still learning. Our most experienced WR is a journeyman who’s been cut twice eventhough he is a good player he’s not established starter. JC is still getting on the same page with these guys and gaining confidence in them as well as himself. This may take a year to gel but JC is a much better player than McCoy may ever be.

    Sorry, but that’s just excuses. TB’s top 3 WRs are all 2nd year players, and the QB is only in his 3rd year. Vick/Kolb had Maclin, Jackson and Avant with a combined 6 years exp last season and did alright.

    JC has a high 1st round pick in his 3rd season in DHB, and in the last two games he’s had two veteran possession guys in Schilens and Hagan, two young guys that make a QB look good with their ability to go up and get bad balls named Ford and Moore, a proven 4th year TE AND probably the most explosive set RB/FB receivers in the game with DMac and Reese combined. (OK, no Reese last game). To say that he doesn’t have decent options, or at least that his receiving corp is what’s holding him back is pure BS. No, these guys aren’t Larry Fitzgerald’s, but picture what they’d do with Manning, Brees, Rogers, etc throwing to them. They’d be lights out!

    The fact is, JC is just a half second slow in his ability to read a defense (3 or 4 delay of games so far while trying to audible), his ability to spot a man breaking free, and in reacting to the blitz to find the hot routes. A great example was his brain fart interception in NE game when he was trying to throw the ball out of the back of the end zone. In his heat of the battle decision making, it apparently didn’t occur to him that it was safer to throw it through the uprights than to try to drop it into a dead spot (that was occupied) in the back of the end zone.

    There’s a reason why he’s at his best when scrambling around the pocket. It lets him pop out on one side of the heat, to find one close target to focus on, and to make a nice touch pass to lead him. The point being that it takes away a lot of variables and simplifies his options, at which point he shows that he has the other tools to make it happen.

    What it comes down to is that he just doesn’t have the head to be anything better than a mediocre QB at the NFL level. Combine that with the fact that he’s not accurate enough with the deep ball, and what we’re seeing is what we’re going to get. He’s not going to improve more than marginally. And God help us if the running game stops working and the defense starts playing pass first defense.

    Trent Dilfer and the Ravens proved that you can win the SB with a conservative, game manager QB that can make the easy plays but not win for you if you need come from behind passing. The best we can hope for IMO opinion is that JC can be that. The Raiders do have the running game to win a championship and they have the defensive front to play at that level. Hopefully, Hue’s creativity on offense makes up for the gaps. If not, it’s going to be time to see what Boller can do to get over the hump and really open up the offense.

    And don’t even go there with Pryor. Dumb as a stick, run first QBs do not do well in the NFL. Especially when they are rookies that missed most of training camp as well as the first 5 games of the season. The first snap that Pryor takes, other than in a gimmick wild cat like offense, shouldn’t happen at least until next preseason.

  • The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
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