Raiders revel in victory, worry about QB situation later
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, October 16th, 2011 at 6:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There will come a time when the Raiders have to worry about their quarterback situation in light of the broken collarbone sufferred by starter Jason Campbell.
For now, they deserse to revel in their victory over the Cleveland Browns on Sunday as they improved to 4-2 on the season, the first time they have surged two games above .500 since the 2002 season.
“I keep telling everybody this team is becoming something,” Raiders coach Hue Jackson said. “We don’t blink when things happens. Obviously, we lost our quarterback early. Very unfortunate. But that’s part of the game, part of the business. We all understand that. But today was about a lot of good things.”
The Raiders honored the late Al Davis with tributes throughout the day, including the lighting of a torch in the southeast corner of the stadium by former Raiders coach John Madden.
There also was a 101-yard kick return for a touchdown by Jacoby Ford, which tied his career-best and upped his total in 22 games to four TDs on returns.
Linebacker Aaron Curry also made his Raiders debut, four days after he was traded to the Raiders from the Seattle Seahawks.
PENALTIES NOT AN ISSUE
Perhaps lost in the shuffle of all that took place today, the Raiders committed only five penalties for 35 yards. That’s a far cry from ideal, but it beats the heck out of the pace they set through five games.
During that time, the Raiders were flagged 50 times for 445 yards.
IMPRESSIVE FIRSTS
Fullback Manase Tonga and tight end David Ausberry made their first touch of the ball in a regular-season game memorable ones.
Tonga busted through the middle of the line for 12 yards and a first down on a third-and-one play. Ausberry turned a third-down play into a first down with a short reception.
CURRY THRILLED WITH NEW TEAM
Curry said things unfolded Sunday the way he expected, just the way they appeared on videotape and the precise way he was instructed by defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan.
As a result, he is pleased with his new teammates, new coaches and new lease on life. Quite a turnaround for a player who went from being the No. 4 pick in the NFL draft in 2009 to an observer from the bench as recently as a week ago.
“Yeah, definitely,” Curry said, in response to feeling comfortable in the Raiders defense. “I feel like this is a defense that allows me to utilize what I do best, which is run. They blitzed me one time but my best attribute is when the ball is snapped, who has the ball and go and get it and play smart.”
Curry said he spent so much time with linebackers coach Greg Biekert and Bresnahan that he was able to function in the Raiders defense without limitation, even though he practiced only one day after he arrived from Seattle.
“I spent a lot of time with Coach B, and we went over what we call the regular list, what we were going to play this week,” Curry said. “We’re focusing on the regular list and then in our spare time we’re studying the entire playbook. I’m picking it up pretty easy.”
Jackson said Curry’s play Sunday validated his decision to stick Curry in the starting lineup ahead of Quentin Groves.
“He was out there flying around, trying to make plays,” Jackson said. “As I told you when I traded for him, I traded for him for a reason, to stick him in there.”
FORD BUSTS OUT
The Raiders struggled on kick returns their first five games, regardless who Jackson stuck back there — Nick Miller, Taiwan Jones, Jacoby Ford or Rock Cartwright.
Ford and others said it was only a matter of time before the dam burst. That time came in the second quarter, when Ford fielded a kick 1 yard deep in the end zone, blew around the masses about his own 20, into the clear and down the sideline for his fourth career touchdown on kick returns.
He tied his career-best, to boot, in terms of length of return. He said he sensed it coming Sunday.
“Special teams had a good week of preparation this week,” Ford said. “I also got to say that Rock Cartwright actually called that. He actually said it in practice, as soon as we got done running that exact return, he said, ‘You’re due to break one this week.’ ”
TWELVE YEARS IN THE MAKING
It’s a play the Raiders have worked on since Jon Gruden was the head coach, and punter Shane Lechler was a wide-eyed rookie on a veteran-laden team.
Time and again, the Raiders never tried a fake punt in a regular-season game. That is, until Sunday, when Jackson gave Lechler the green light on a 53-year field-goal attempt in the third quarter.
Lechler received Jon Condo’s snap, emerged from his one-knee stance, lofted a pass to tight end Kevin Boss and threw up his hands in celebration.
“We’ve run that play in practice for 12 years,” Lechler said. “This is the first time we got to do it.”
It’s no wonder Lechler wasted little time celebrating. Boss handled his part by taking the ball 35 yards for a touchdown that gave the Raiders an insurmountable 24-7 lead.
Lechler said he campaigns for that play “every practice.” To no avail.
That marked Lechler’s first pass attempt in 12 years, even though he can make a case for throwing the best ball of anyone on the Raiders roster, quarterbacks included — he played the position in high school.
“I didn’t realize he could throw the ball like he could until just a few weeks ago,” Boss said. “He’s got a great arm. He can throw it like a lot of quarterbacks can throw it. My recollection is that he was a pretty good quarterback in high school. He’s still got the arm. He’s a great athlete.”
Last week, Jackson signed off on a fake punt, with Rock Cartwright taking the snap from Condo and rambling 35 yards for a key first down.
It’s part of what Jackson calls “living on the edge,” and it’s part of what endears Jackson to his players.
“I love it,” Lechler said. “This is a very, very aggressive staff. Hue is an aggressive play caller. Some of the chances we take on special teams, a few weeks in a row, it’s fun to play for him. You feel like you always have a chance.”
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October 16th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I wouldn’t mind Tebow..
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yuck!
I rather have Warren Sapp as QB
October 16th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
I think Tebow’s great.
I would run the option…
October 16th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Morilla Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
morilla Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Did you see Pryor in the sideline today? He looked like a high school kid
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Yeah, how dare a kid be excited to be on the sidelines for his first NFL game. The nerve.
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He should of been with the coaches learning everything he can instead of dancing on national television. You think Newton would have pulled that bush league sh!t?
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Give me a break. Of course Newton would do that “bush league sh*t”, as you call it. He did some ridiculous dance today after scoring a TD, then threw an INT on the next possession.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Since 2007, Kyle Boller has 12 TD’s and 23 turnovers.
That’s a 5 year trend.
We have something cooking with this team, and while it will be Kyle Boller to start, we better have a plan B and C.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
With Cam Newton proving everyone wrong this year about him, I am pretty certain the Raiders will let Pryor see some action sooner than later.
If DHB can catch a bomb in the next few weeks, I’m on his bandwagon. They fear his speed so much out there that they play 10 yds off him and he is getting a ton of underneath stuff. Time for him to show that he can catch a bomb. I know he caught one against NE but that was with this legs.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
I would not be shocked if Pryor is facing off against Tebow in 3 weeks.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Anyone who thinks Pryor is going to be starting within the next few weeks is delusional (i.e. Aig and Priest).
October 16th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
I hope you are right Priest…
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Pryor needs to add about 30 pounds of meat so he can take a NFL hit, then he can take some punishment and dish it out too. But right now, he looks a little lean.
Remember when Rusty Hilger made an appearance against the Seahawks years back? Dude looked like a runt right outta high school.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
We’ll see how delusional we are in 5 weeks….
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I don’t know if Pryor will be the starter, but I can see him getting phased in on some plays here and there within the next few weeks.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
With Hue’s history with Boller… I’m thinking he stays with Boller. Ride DMAC, continue with the creative play calling, and protect the ball. Pretty much the same exact game plan we have with JC.
The good thing is that it’s been obvious from the get-go that this offense is not built around the QB.
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Yup, just manage the game. Things won’t change that much. It will all be ok, step away from the ledge.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I’ve defended Hue’s calls many times in here but I’m scratching my head over not kicking a field goal and going up by 17 and that 4th and short late in the game. Gotta say, in that situation, get the 3 points Hue.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Pryor is just so raw…3 weeks isn’t enough time for him to get ready.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Morilla Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
morilla Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Did you see Pryor in the sideline today? He looked like a high school kid
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Yeah, how dare a kid be excited to be on the sidelines for his first NFL game. The nerve.
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He should of been with the coaches learning everything he can instead of dancing on national television. You think Newton would have pulled that bush league sh!t?
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Give me a break. Of course Newton would do that “bush league sh*t”, as you call it. He did some ridiculous dance today after scoring a TD, then threw an INT on the next possession.
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Uhhhhh, Newton was playing. Pryor was wearing sweats.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Soup isn’t injury prone, but in 6 years as an NFL starter, this will be the 2nd time he has missed more than a month of the season.
He also left for at least one series in 3 of his games last year.
Not injury-prone, but not an iron man either.
As typical with Soup, he is about right in the middle.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I wouldn’t mind Tebow..
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yuck!
I rather have Warren Sapp as QB
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I’d rather watch Campbell throw lefthanded.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Some of you fans really drive me nuts. I’m at the game and Boller starts getting boos after just a few errant throws. Really? The guy gets thrown in and, of course he’s going to be rusty. Calm the eff down. Some of these fans aren’t very bright.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Pryor is just so raw…3 weeks isn’t enough time for him to get ready.
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3 month wouldnt be enough! a trick play here a trick play there, thats the most action pryor will see!
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Not kicking the FG was a bad decision.
One of those if it works your a genius, if it doesn’t your a fool deals.
It didn’t work.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
The Campbell era came to end today. Let the Garrard era begin. Amy kick some *ss and get it done.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Highlight of Kyle Boller starting is maybe we will starting getting some shots of his wife during the game.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Some of you fans really drive me nuts. I’m at the game and Boller starts getting boos after just a few errant throws. Really? The guy gets thrown in and, of course he’s going to be rusty. Calm the eff down. Some of these fans aren’t very bright.
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yeah I agree that really stinks!
October 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
The team will be fine, folks. Campbell isn’t exactly Peyton Manning. We just need Boller to be able to manage the game. If not, we always have Lechler. LOL
October 16th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
The Campbell era ends in disappointment?
Who didn’t see that coming?
October 16th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
One of those if it works your a genius, if it doesn’t your a fool deals.
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No, if it works, it’s still a bad decision that worked. I’ve defended his calls saying that if it works he’s a genius. Not in this case. It was a bad move. A FG wins the game there.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Pryor needs to add about 30 pounds of meat so he can take a NFL hit, then he can take some punishment and dish it out too. But right now, he looks a little lean.
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mate the dude built like a brick s**T house… if hez lean wtf is campbell
October 16th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Balls To The Wall With Meaning Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Pryor needs to add about 30 pounds of meat so he can take a NFL hit, then he can take some punishment and dish it out too. But right now, he looks a little lean.
Remember when Rusty Hilger made an appearance against the Seahawks years back? Dude looked like a runt right outta high school.
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WTF are you talking about? Pryor weighs 233 pounds. Why do you think there has been talk of converting him to tight end? He’s much bigger than Vick.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Pryor’s, what, 6′6″, 235 pounds? 30 more pounds would make him what JaFatass was listed at
October 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
please can someone tell me how the following played
Curry
Rolando
and DHB,
cant tell schit from gamecast on ESPN !!!
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
October 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
It’s diffuclt to not talk about the QB situation, but how about DHB stepping up again and Curry playing pretty well?
Not to mention Rolando may have had his best game as a Raider. It’s the Browns, but they do have a good offensive line, so it was nice to see the D stuff the run and pester McCoy all day long.
At one point McCoy was something like 9/24. Kid was rattled.
Outside of losing Campbell, this was a very nice team win.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I’ve defended Hue’s calls many times in here but I’m scratching my head over not kicking a field goal and going up by 17 and that 4th and short late in the game. Gotta say, in that situation, get the 3 points Hue.
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I was scratching my balls after that one. A rookie coach mistake. But with everything that went on today, I understand why HueJax did it. If tippy toe twinkle toes can go full steam, we get the TD.
October 16th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Blackmamba,
Curry looked pretty good for a guy who had 1 practice. Had a good run stuff.
McClain had what was probably his best game of the season.
DHB was a monster. Most people (including me) are believing now
October 16th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
I have question, if the ball goes to the stances, an one get a hold on it, can you keep it and take it home?
October 16th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Pryor’s, what, 6′6″, 235 pounds? 30 more pounds would make him what JaFatass was listed at
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ok ok. maybe 20 pounds, but I’m talkin meat and muscle, not lard.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Mamba
Curry played good. Helped our D a lot I think. Made a couple nice plays stringing runs out and took a nice angle on what I believe was a swing (or a sweep) and kept it to a minimal gain.
Rolando – Had a solid game. Definitely looks like he is a much better player with another fast ball hawking LB next to him (made me think of Urlacher/Briggs for a sec) watching them.
DHB – Had an excellent game. Great effort/hands, and attacked the ball on his short routes instead of sitting and letting the ball come to him.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
how about this -”the Raiders committed only five penalties for 35 yards.”
“I love it,” Lechler said. “This is a very, very aggressive staff. Hue is an aggressive play caller. Some of the chances we take on special teams, a few weeks in a row, it’s fun to play for him. You feel like you always have a chance.”
Hey Shane, do you still miss Cable?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Agree, thought McLain had a good game
October 16th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Balls To The Wall With Meaning, you are a dummy.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
please can someone tell me how the following played
Curry
Rolando
and DHB,
cant tell schit from gamecast on ESPN !!!
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
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Another great game from DHB. Played with fire and passion. No drops.
Curry had a nice tackle on a stretch play. Didn’t key in on him the rest of the game or pay attention to what he was doing.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Here in Denmark the NFL pundits have this list. A top 5 list of teams they wouldnt meet this weak…
Raiders took the #5 from one of the pundits..
October 16th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Both McClain and Curry had nice games. For Curry, considering his time with the team. There were a couple of plays were he sealed the edge pretty nice. In the past, plays like that would have been for big gains.
The whole team seems to be playing with heart. I don’t care what they say, they are taking Al’s passing as motivation and is working great.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
34.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
I have question, if the ball goes to the stances, an one get a hold on it, can you keep it and take it home?
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Only if you can out run security…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
34.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
I have question, if the ball goes to the stances, an one get a hold on it, can you keep it and take it home?
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Only if you can out run security…
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what if a player hands it over after a score or something like it
October 16th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Curry was good against the run, bad against the pass.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
I think it is time to move Wisnieski to center and Barksdale to LG. All in.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Noticed a bunch of folks ripping Garrard. Jacksonville didn’t cut him because they thought he was weak; it was simply that they wanted to go with the youngster Gabbert rather than pay Garrard 9 million dollars. Garrard would have made them a playoff contender, but the organization made a sacrifice strictly based on money (I know some of you Clipper fans know what thats like). They were instantly ripped by their own fanbase as giving up on the year for other selfish reasons, but they came around because they knew they wanted to see what the rookie had anyhow. And Garrard didn’t want to stay on as a backup, so they let him walk knowing he’d get an opportunity somewhere else. The only knock with him is he wants to be a starter and wants a contract for a couple of years. If we can land him for the remainder of the year though; we should really look into it.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Yeah, Curry made his mark today. I pretty much only watched him when he was out there. Flew to the ball, good angles and run instincts. Had a nice stop stringing a run out from the edge to the sideline. He seems like a perfect fit. Thanks Seattle.
How about that great special teams tackle from Groves?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
#43: That’s pretty chintzy for a big money league like the NFL.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
DVD is another one to watch as well. His ball skills in coverage are maddening, but that kid can flat out cover. QB’s don’t often throw his way. He seemed to have another solid day from a coverage standpoint.
His tackling is another story. Seems like he tries, but he’s just a slight dude. That can be worked on…
Question? Why was Myers in the game over Boss. I was in a bar and the Pats/Cowboys game had volume.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Curry also had a nice play early on where he ran through a blocker, I think it was their fullback.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Maybe I’m wrong…in 2009….
ST. LOUIS — The NFL fined Rams running back Steven Jackson $5,000 for throwing a ball into the stands during a game last week. Jackson doesn’t plan to appeal the fine.
Jackson said Thursday that he knew the fine was coming after he scored on a 1-yard run during the final minute of Sunday’s 27-17 loss to the Seattle Seahawks. He said he just wanted to toss a present to the handful of fans who were still around at the end of the game.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Curry did play well…No gashing runs to his side. Good to see Groves take the right attitude and play well on special teams.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Pryor runs a 4.45 in the 40. Get him in there and play a conservative gameplan. I guarantee you he’ll get first downs on his feet alone. DMAC and him will create a nitemare situation for defenses trying to figure out who’s going to run. They said Cam Newton couldnt pass and I think he’s doing just fine. Newton stronger. Pryor faster. They both got the swagger to carry their own teams and have done it in college. That’s a whole lot more than either JC or Boller.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Curry did play well…No gashing runs to his side. Good to see Groves take the right attitude and play well on special teams.
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Groves has been a true pro. No p!ssing & moaning on his Twitter or to the media. Just shut up and went and did his new job well today
October 16th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Thanks @EM
How about Darrens 203 yarda, up the middle or on the outside.. couldnt access a TV so i missed all the goodness.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
#50: Boss was in a lot too. We used lots of double TE sets.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
23 YARDA !! OOPS
October 16th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
- DHB is making plays. Most consistent WR for the team right now. His size and strength are starting to stand out.
– Welcome to the Nation Aaron Curry. Solid debut.
– Even Al was telling Pryor just to be patient. No way we depend on him this year if we expect to make the playoffs…and that is what Hue expects.
One Nation Baby…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
#55: Hue and the rest of the staff have everyone buying in.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Forget Pryor, the dude sits. He has practiced one week. I’m not even going to mention his name anymore. Putting Jim in would be giving up on the season.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
La Milicia Negra – Yes, you can keep a ball that goes into the stands or is handed to you.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
First off, great win! We need to win these games that we are supposed to win. Good sign. The better team won. As far as the QB situation is concerned, I am a little more worried than some in here. As little credit JC gets in here, there will be a change in that tune pretty soon imo. He was getting very comfortable in this offense & “managing” it well. I don’t think we should just expect Kyle frickin Boller to step in & duplicate what JC has been able to do this year. Teams are going to stack the box on DMAC & get in KB’s head. There’s gonna be a lot of people yearning for JC & the kid is unfortunately gonna get a look a lot sooner than we all would’ve hoped. Mr. Davis, if you’re up there, we could use some more of that “11th man” mojo you pulled in Houston!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
outstanding!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
– Even Al was telling Pryor just to be patient. No way we depend on him this year if we expect to make the playoffs…and that is what Hue expects
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This is a key point. I have to think Al & Hue worked out a development plan for Pryor between them. If Al kept telling Pryor to be patient, that probably meant no significant playing time til next season
October 16th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
….putting him in. Not Jim, he’s n the booth filling papas flask.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Palmer isnt available and even if he was, I dont want him.
Gerrard is available but I dont know if I want him.
Orton is Bronco and I dont want him either.
Favre is retired but I would want him.
Matt Flynn might be worth trading the farm for but he’s not likely available.
Trent Edwards is available and I can settle for him as the backup.
Kyle Boller isnt much of a downgrade, if he even is. I think we’ll be ok. Next Man Up
October 16th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
#63: Yes, Boller is a bit of a drop-off from Soup but not that drastic of one. Nothing like Manning or Brady to their backups.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
HAS TO BE BOLLER,
October 16th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
boller will be our qb next week for sure but w/ a bye after that, a new qb would have 3 weeks to get up to speed if we move quickly. here are the qb possibilities i can think of:
boller–not a very good career. can he get us to the playoffs? doubtful
garrard–most likely choice. probably the best experienced pro bowler still in his prime. can run/throw. always a bit underrated.
favre–hi upside if he plays like 2 years ago. dynamic. horrible just last year though. would bring swagger.
palmer–bengals say they won’t trade him. if they did, he’s not what he once was but he is a former pro bowler and still in his prime.
orton–i kinda like this guy. he can throw the ball. he’s in his prime. would denver deal him and face him in 3 weeks?
v.young, claussen, quinn–all young but failed starters. who knows if they would do well?
gradkowski–interesting but it’s not likely we would move backward. besides, he didn’t play all that well last year.
frye, edwards, brennan–these guys would be backups to boller.
i think garrard is most likely. he and favre wouldn’t cost us any picks. palmer and or ton might be interesting though.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
#63: Yes, Boller is a bit of a drop-off from Soup but not that drastic of one. Nothing like Manning or Brady to their backups.
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Believe me…Soup is more a product of Hue and DMAC than many in here like to think. Don’t underestimate Hue and Al Saunders in this. Soup is mediocre..no more, no less.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Campbell is safe and doesn’t throw many INTs. I feel like Boller is one of those guys that is always capable of turning the ball over 3 or 4 times.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
La Milicia Negra – Yes, you can keep a ball that goes into the stands or is handed to you.
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okay! thanks, you sound very convincing!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
No way is Favre going to be playing for the Raiders.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Can’t argue with that “Reality”. Soup generally manages a game well but leaves big plays on the field every game.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Rob_you almost nailed ‘em all, but V.Young is not a failed starter. People can say what they want about the kid, and how he’s not a conventional QB, and how he was a headcase, but his record proves he’s been nothing but a winner. Not saying I want him, just sayin’…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
from twitter:
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
Sorry about Jason Campbell’s collarbone. Good guy. I’ve always been a fan/defender of his. Never a fan of Kyle (I Should’ve Been a) Bowler.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
CanuckRaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
#63: Yes, Boller is a bit of a drop-off from Soup but not that drastic of one. Nothing like Manning or Brady to their backups.
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No not as drastic as manning or brady to their backups, but we’re not dealing with a qb driven offense like those teams. We’re a running team that has an aggressive playcaller with a bunch of talented skill positions “toys” that he likes to get the ball to outside. It takes a good grasp of the system/playbook to run that offense. Let’s just hope KB has what it takes. I doubt defenses will respect him much until he makes them. DMAC will see a lot of crowded boxes…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
It’s a nice win and a special day. Lecheler to Boss was spectacular! Jacoby taking it to the house was awesome! Jason Campbell is a bonehead. Period. He fumbles when there is nobody within 10 yards of him, and then acts like Hercules when he should be SLIDING. Doesn’t every QB understand that? I feel bad for him, but he honestly didn’t look like more than a mediocre QB. Next man up is right! Come on Boller! Make the sideline passes next week. P.S. Garrard needs to be ready to take over after the Bye Week. Get Garrard NOW!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
LMN – wife and I almost stopped in Denmark this past summer. How’s the food? Similar to Sweden? We had some great open-faced sandwiches there.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
I guess Nick Miller is playing for the Rams now. I’m glad to see someone picked him up.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Matt Shaughnessy on Twitter just now, “Great win. Time for drinks.” I love it.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
That first offensive drive was a thing of beauty, even if the Browns are not in the first class of defenders. After all, how many times in years past have we seen the Raiders able to string that many plays together in an inexorable march to 6 points, against anyone?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
That’s my worry with Boller he ca run the offense and he can make plays but he also will throw picks and fumble. The thing I liked about Camp is he doesn’t throw picks that is what set him apart from Edwards and Boller in the preseason those two committed t/o’s too often. If we have to struggle at that position struggle with the guy with the sick upside.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Jersey: I agree that we’re not as good of a team without Campbell but we’ll likely still finish fairly close to where we would have with him. Playoffs are still a possibility.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
from twitter:
RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
Sorry about Jason Campbell’s collarbone. Good guy. I’ve always been a fan/defender of his. Never a fan of Kyle (I Should’ve Been a) Bowler.
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Couldn’t care less what that clown has to say.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
I highly suggest watching the vid. Much better than the transcript. I really dig Hue and what he is bringing to the table.
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Behind-the-Shield-Online-10-16-11/e8e94c01-3f24-46e9-8e4f-0f48fe135af6
October 16th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
We’re going to the playoffs. The rushing game and the new inspired D will make sure of that.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
74.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
No way is Favre going to be playing for the Raiders.
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Why? Cuz he’s staying retired no matter what, or cuz it’s the Raiders?
We have a nice corps of receivers and DMAC. If he was ever to come back why not here…now?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
74.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
No way is Favre going to be playing for the Raiders.
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Why? Cuz he’s staying retired no matter what, or cuz it’s the Raiders?
We have a nice corps of receivers and DMAC. If he was ever to come back why not here…now?
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Because he is retired and old.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
The defense is starting to come on. Things should only get better as the young guys gain more experience. I like it!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
That onside kick did not look legal.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
No way is Favre going to be playing for the Raiders.
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Why? Cause you say so? R u his agent?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Boller is nothing pretty but at least he can slide.
JaSoup needs to join the special olympics with that mess he is throwin down!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Hope so Canuck. I’m not saying I was/am completely sold on JC, but I know he was our best shot to win. We all know close games come down to a few plays. JC protects the ball for the most part & I worry KB & his more wreckless style will blow a game or two for us which we can’t afford to give up if we’re gonna make the playoffs. I hope I’m over-reacting & KB steps in & plays well. I’m just kinda uneasy right now…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Plunder Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
That onside kick did not look legal.
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Not at all. Thought the same thing.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
JaMeatball did all those things and all you did was praise him.
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Priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
he also will throw picks and fumble.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Great game by the front seven today. McClain showed some fire, and Curry helped seal the edge.
DHB put in another solid effort. Great to see.
Ford had a monster game.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Plunder Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
That onside kick did not look legal.
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wasn’t. just the refs tryin to pork the raiders as always. nothing unusual about the call.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Soup was always a bit bland throughout his career. He came to Oakland and Hue seasoned him up a bit. Hue is the chef here, and he’s cooking something nice for us. Stay tuned and don’t throw Boller under the bus before giving him his chance. Most of all, don’t boo him at the games after just a few errant throws. Morons. He’s still a Raider. Soup took some time to get comfortable too, remember? Fans have such short memories. Drives me nuts.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Now we see what our defense looks like without AL looking over a should during the week…..the dogs got turned loose!
Coach, raise your coaching IQ before you cost us a game with that cowboy BS!!!
Hear me ?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Our guys had no chance on that onside kick. And if they allow that crap, the kicking team converts more than not.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Just back from the game – long day. Campbell’s injury a big negative. Boller is crap and that’s being generous. Our realistic options are FA Trent Edwards & David Garrard. I’d really like a trade for Carson Palmer but I don’t think that’s going to work.
I’m sure Hue will have multiple candidates in right away. The only thing for sure is Boller is not starter caliber. Actually, I thought Edwards played better than Boller but Edwards is the one that got released – Go Figure.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
What about bringing Russel back? Anyone?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Way to show yo big today Raider Nation, shot out to norco, hwndr, dmac, b@uce, the tailgate in the Dirt lot was lovely as usual!!! We ride the boller train a couple if weeks and see what’s available.. our offense is not based on QB play as much as schemes. Look how many trick plays we have ran with Campbell, reverses every game multiple times, flee flickers, fake punt/ field goals, the play calling will get more creative… Bring in garrard and see what he’s got over the bye
October 16th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Also guys, this team doesn’t win this game 2 years ago. Or even last year.
Plus, the team just won 2 in a row.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
MistaBrown <——-Good call on JFORD breaking out today…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
And another win outside of the AFC West.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Hue was going for the kill when the kill was already there with the FG. You go up 30-17 at that point but by failing on the run it set up those uneasy moments at the end.
We won. In the end that’s what counts. I hope if this happens again, Hue has learned from this.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
I’m sorry…we would’ve gone up 27-10.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Thec,
I was waiting to see you before I sent out a reminder I said that!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
What about pouring gasoline down your esophagus ?
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Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
What about bringing Russel back? Anyone?
October 16th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
What about pouring gasoline down your esophagus ?
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Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
What about bringing Russel back? Anyone?
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Absolutely NOT. NO NO NO NO NO
October 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Good to see so many former Raiders in the house, especially John Madden
October 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The word is that the Raiders are flying in JaMarcus Russell to try out tomorrow…… Say it ain’t so…..
October 16th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Hue should have kicked the field goal, but I like him being aggressive!!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Thec,
I was waiting to see you before I sent out a reminder I said that!
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Looks like he Finnally got his game legs under him…
Hell of a call…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Rather take my chances with Shane lechler
October 16th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Coach Al Jackson <——- Is a cold hearted killer…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Jamincus will never play here again!!!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Coach Al Jackson <——- Is a cold hearted killer…
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HaHa…NICE!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
guys were in here talking about trading jacoby for llyod the other day.. WOW…. Another KR TOUCHDOWN for Mr Ford..oh how he has outplayed his clemson buddy CJ Spiller
October 16th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
L Moonz Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The word is that the Raiders are flying in JaMarcus Russell to try out tomorrow…… Say it ain’t so…..
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Funny joke.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
L Moonz Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The word is that the Raiders are flying in JaMarcus Russell to try out tomorrow…… Say it ain’t so…..
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Bullsh1t. That fat tub of spunk is done playing football.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Shane is the backup Qb, MLB, K, C, and Long snappa
October 16th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Some of you need to take a step back saying matter-of-factly that Pryor is not ready to play??? HOW THE HELL CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT????
Let Hue call it. Let him make the call. Just stfu! You don’t know what the guy can do yet until you see him on the field.
I don’t want to sound almighty. I, for one, said Cam Newtwon was a bum and not ready for the NFL. And look whats happening. Lesson learned. Don’t be so damn judgemental. There’s no judging heart, dedication and pure skill to boot.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Blackmamba_20 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
guys were in here talking about trading jacoby for llyod the other day.. WOW…. Another KR TOUCHDOWN for Mr Ford..oh how he has outplayed his clemson buddy CJ Spiller
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ROFLMAO…Yeah some of these guys were going off the deep end…. I saw Trade him for a 3rd post….Flat out redic…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Funny thing is that I was taking particular notice today of the nice spirals he was throwing in warmups. Throws a good ball. Not a single wobbly during warmups.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
And how about DHB, BABY!!! The dude is a monster out there. That should have been 3 straight 100yd games! But let you guys tell it and he’ll be sittin on the bench because accd’g to you all he sucked and just wasn’t ready or ever will be.
Well guess what? He is the top producing WR on this team and he’s looking damn good doing it!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
This is great. It’s the entire 4th quarter from the 1980 playoff game against the Browns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsFMfRGDMC0
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Some of you need to take a step back saying matter-of-factly that Pryor is not ready to play??? HOW THE HELL CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT????
Let Hue call it. Let him make the call. Just stfu! You don’t know what the guy can do yet until you see him on the field.
I don’t want to sound almighty. I, for one, said Cam Newtwon was a bum and not ready for the NFL. And look whats happening. Lesson learned. Don’t be so damn judgemental. There’s no judging heart, dedication and pure skill to boot.
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The kid has practiced one week. Yeah, go ahead and trash the season. Smart call.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
126.TerrapinRaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Some of you need to take a step back saying matter-of-factly that Pryor is not ready to play??? HOW THE HELL CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT????
Let Hue call it. Let him make the call. Just stfu! You don’t know what the guy can do yet until you see him on the field.
I don’t want to sound almighty. I, for one, said Cam Newtwon was a bum and not ready for the NFL. And look whats happening. Lesson learned. Don’t be so damn judgemental. There’s no judging heart, dedication and pure skill to boot.
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Id rather pryor than some bum on the free agent wire, there out of a job for a reason.. Also i agree that pryor could have the impact newton is having, sure he has only been with the Team for a week practising, howver he would have been training everyday and has had the playbook for 5 weeks now…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Some of you need to take a step back saying matter-of-factly that Pryor is not ready to play??? HOW THE HELL CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT????
Let Hue call it. Let him make the call. Just stfu! You don’t know what the guy can do yet until you see him on the field.
I don’t want to sound almighty. I, for one, said Cam Newtwon was a bum and not ready for the NFL. And look whats happening. Lesson learned. Don’t be so damn judgemental. There’s no judging heart, dedication and pure skill to boot.
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Yep, Yep, and Yep….
I will difer to coach Al Jackson…100, however whtever we do this team will win….
Raider Nation needs to get use to winning…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Fun day
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
OMG. Did I really just read someone say Pryor is to thin? OMFG! This sht is comical!
October 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
This QB situation sucks!! Who’s Bollers backup??
October 16th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
IMO ford is the difference between us making and not making the playoffs he has to stay healthy. The big plays he makes change games. Also Boss has to somehow get involved in the offense. But right now DHB is carrying the passing game. Somehow we have to get Moore Ford and DHb clicking at the same time.
I think Boller will be OK if he stays away form the t/o’s in bunches it’s OK to throw one or two at the most but he cannot ahve a game where he throws 3 and one for 6. That will beat us. Every QB throws a pick here and there it’s just taht he cannot beat us. manage the game if he has to with safe measured throws. But don’t give the game away.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
DHB coming on Very Strong….His confidence is off the charts now, wont be able to put him back in the bottle…
Where the hell was Hag????
October 16th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
i have a feeling we will see pryor much sooner than yall think. hue needs to stop fugging around and get dmc his 25 touches a game. use his receiving skills more. curry looked good and so did mcclain. i think our defense will get much better once we get some guys back from injury. i was hoping we would avoid any major injuries before the bye week. we will be hell to deal with in the 2nd half. boller is a stop gap until the future arrives. just more big plays and avoid as mant turnovers as possible.
October 16th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Pryor is yoked…
October 16th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Code black
October 16th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Whatever happened to the code black banner some posters were gonna put up never seen
Any on tv
October 16th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
We’re gonna pick up somebody. Who will it be?
McNabb just got benched.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Prior needs more practice to determine what he is capable of doing in the near future, so there has to be another plan, assuming he’s not ready!! This is the NFL, the win now league!!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
A
October 16th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Hue throws bombs on 2nd down when strategy calls for clock chewing. He said he did it because it was there, and he was right.
He goes for it on 4th and 1 when he could just take the 3 (keep in mind we were running on them hard that drive). The D was playing great as well…
It’s reckless and not exactly smart football, but it’s ballsy and it seems like his players love him for it.
Personally, I love that coaching style.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Prob resign Edwards if he didnt get scooped.
He already knows the book!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Reality, I agree- love hue’s aggressive play calling, he’s got to get that gimme fg and put the game away by 3 scores w/ 4 minutes.
Yes to trading for Tebow.
Yes to either Mr. Boller or Mr. Pryor starting or Mr. Lechler at qb.
Trade for Mr. Curry has already paid dividends, excellent trade for the Raiders by Coach Jackson.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
This team is setup to win….Period.
Boller needs to man the hell up and hadle his business.
I am not going to say Pryor is ready or not. Thats up to coach Al Jackson to decide. The 2 Al’s will determine what we do at the QB position, and they will get us in a postion to win games…
Its FKD that JC is hurt however, coach has a contigency plan, and we will win the west….
October 16th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
128.Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Funny thing is that I was taking particular notice today of the nice spirals he was throwing in warmups. Throws a good ball. Not a single wobbly during warmups.
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jim tressle said his mechanics were much improved at hs pro day from the last time he saw him in the sugar bowl. now hue said his spirals were better. this guy works hard and is fiesty. he may surprise all of us.this is a wierd year so its almost silly for us to predict 2 much about what these youngins can or cant do.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
JaSoup looks like a straight retard when he goes for a slide. How can a prof Athlete look so foolish just sliding ?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
When Coach Al Jackson talked about Pryor’s progress he did not that he has improved. I would never play him in poker as he will never tip his hand.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
It took Jason Campbell a full season to be comfortable with Hue and Saunders’ offense. And JC is in his 7th year.
Pryor is NOWHERE ready, and is NOT a better passer than Boller right now. He struggled just a year ago vs solid college defenses, and has not had much time to improve on that.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I’m afraid to say his name, but where is he? I would have expexted to hear from him by now. He must be in hog heaven.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Wouldnt mind mcnabb, but dam he’s been stinking it up lately!!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
so its almost silly for us to predict 2 much about what these youngins can or cant do.
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Truth
October 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
pryor, a raw rookie would not be the way to the playoffs. getting a veteran, proven qb, might even make us better than we were. think of it. we brought jc in, and he was doing ok. not bad, but not great either. he’s a FA after the year. we have a young talented qb waiting in the wings but not ready yet. i think if we bring in garrard, favre, campbell, or orton, we might improve the passing game considerably. it may have been jc’s last game as a raider. (not that i disliked him. i just thought he was ok).
October 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
lol at “spirals during warm-ups” comment exciting people.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
mcnabb is washed up.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Armond – I thought the same thing. Kept thinking “Give it to DMAC!” He was shredding them in the 1st quarter. Yes, he had some runs that were stuffed but keep with it. He’s bound to break one or three with enough touches.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
MR probably passed out drunk celebrating the Raider win.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Any word on Mr Satele’s knee injury?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
terrapin we should all be pround of dhb shutting up so many who said he should be cut. prime example of why u let the season play itself out. he could have about 200 more yards and 3-4 tds more if we had better qb play. hes getting down field but the throws arent there. now he is playing with confidence which is leading to swagger. let him get his 1rst multi td game with about 180 yds and its a wrap.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Don’t like the fact that a kickoff return is the difference.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
i meant palmer, not campbell
October 16th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
137.priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
IMO ford is the difference between us making and not making the playoffs he has to stay healthy. The big plays he makes change games. Also Boss has to somehow get involved in the offense. But right now DHB is carrying the passing game. Somehow we have to get Moore Ford and DHb clicking at the same time.
I think Boller will be OK if he stays away form the t/o’s in bunches it’s OK to throw one or two at the most but he cannot ahve a game where he throws 3 and one for 6. That will beat us. Every QB throws a pick here and there it’s just taht he cannot beat us. manage the game if he has to with safe measured throws. But don’t give the game away.
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Disagree. It’s on our defense at this point. If they keep us in the game then any one of our players on offense has the potential to explode. Just get it in their hands.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
From an “excitement / entertainment / fan joy” perspective, bringing in Favre would be about a 12 on the 10-point scale.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Hey Alex7, I am in your pocket for $55
1. $25 from the houston game.
2. $30 from wining 2 out of 3.
So what will it paypal or western union???
October 16th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Hue jackson is learning a lot of football HC 101 lessons so far and it’s only cost him one time. Some of the things he’s doing will get him beat by a great team or in a playoff situatio. Always always always take the points when you can good he didn’t have to pay for it. But sometimes I think Hue plays to teh crowd a bit. Fans always want you to go for it until it doesn’t work, then they say why did you do it?
Anything traht works is smart anything that doesn’t is dumb Hue has to start playing teh %’s more and play smart football it’s OK to roll the dice when it’s least expected once in a while but that is 2 weeks in a row a fake punt and a fake FG that played pivotal roles in a win soone or later it’s gonna cost him big. That stuff is risky as hell but the difference is now it’s helping us to gain confidence in ourselves through winning once we know we can win games he has to scale that back a bit.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
sullivan–u’ve proven u don’t know anything. the game was not really close. if jc stayed in, it would have been a blowout.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Hey priest, no matter what Hue does we know one thing: His fate’s in Mark Davis’s hands.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
“I love it,” Lechler said. “This is a very, very aggressive staff. Hue is an aggressive play caller. Some of the chances we take on special teams, a few weeks in a row, it’s fun to play for him. You feel like you always have a chance.”
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Good to hear Lechler say that. He was one of the most vocal guys when Cable got fired.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
lol at dummies who bet against their own team but call themselves a fan.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Palmer if we can get him would be perfect.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Don’t like the fact that a kickoff return is the difference.
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You don’t like anything RAIDERS.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Favre Favre Favre!!!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Don’t like the fact that a kickoff return is the difference.
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Just win, baby.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
garrard, favre, palmer or orton?
hmm.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Yeah, he should have taken the points but really the Brownies weren’t doing a goddamn thing. Our defense was stifling. He prob didn’t see much risk in it given how the game was going. He should’ve but whatever. I barely broke a sweat cause I knew the Brownies couldn’t move the rock on us.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
well, if sullivan wants favre, i’m against it.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
LMN – wife and I almost stopped in Denmark this past summer. How’s the food? Similar to Sweden? We had some great open-faced sandwiches there.
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well its very european (of course)
Next time you re in this end of the woods, give Copenhagen a try!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Just win, baby.
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True. But I’m a football purist. Heck with these rules there’s hardly going to be any kickoff returns, so now more than ever you can’t rely on your kick return game to actually win games. There is always an element of luck that goes with a kickoff return TD. I don’t like the fact that without that luck, this game’s in overtime.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Mr. Campbell running cost us a shutout and our starting qb.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
We just Won Baby!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Boeller will start next week and I think we still beat the Chiefs and possibly the Broncos. This changes nothing over the next few weeks; but it changes the game over the remainder of the season.
Hue has to control Boeller and his throws. Get “the franchise” ready. Pryor baby! I interested to see this kid on the field.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
sullivan—how stupid are u? the td at the end wouldn’t have happened. we won. now shut up. ur not worrying anyone.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Alright, the more I think about it I don’t think its all gloom and doom. Hue knows Boller very well, he knows what he can do and what he can’t. Hue must believe in Boller, so I will trust Hue will play to Bollers strengths, whatever that may be. IN HUE I TRUST
October 16th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
151.MistaBrown Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
JaSoup looks like a straight retard when he goes for a slide. How can a prof Athlete look so foolish just sliding ?
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I dont understand how a grown man cant slide.. bizzare really
October 16th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Just win, baby.
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True. But I’m a football purist. Heck with these rules there’s hardly going to be any kickoff returns, so now more than ever you can’t rely on your kick return game to actually win games. There is always an element of luck that goes with a kickoff return TD. I don’t like the fact that without that luck, this game’s in overtime.
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No without the KO TD Hue would have kicked the FG, and we still WIN!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
This team is just so damn solid. All we need is a QB to play average and we can win. A QB that plays above average to great and we dominate every damn opponent out there. AND I MEAN THEM ALL!
Overall, this team is just too damn solid. Playmakers everywhere. Just give me one at QB.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
l moonz Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The word is that the Raiders are flying in JaMarcus Russell to try out tomorrow…… Say it ain’t so…..
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If true then Satele is dinged or knicked pretty bad.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
TJ
Boller is not the answer. He’s an INT or fumble waiting to happen. He has absolutely no accuracy. He simply won’t do as a starter for the remainder of the year. Pryor is not the answer either. Like AD said, wait your turn and you’ll be fine. Al meant him to sit for 1 or 2 years then, come in and wow them. If he went in now, his chance of becoming a success diminishes immensely. I say go look at Garrard. He wants to be a starter and has the tools and experience to make it work. A trade for Carson Palmer is a long shot to happen. I think our best bet is Garrard.
Different subject: What’s up with Michael Bush? He doesn’t seem to be doing much. He needs to get his head back into the game.
Parting shot: I don’t know why HuJack has not gotten Boss more into the game. He’s a great target that simply is not being used to is full potential. Your thoughts?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
@182
Completely mindless comment,
October 16th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Mr. Curry makes our run defense formidable, when we get Mr. Shaughnessy back no one will run on us.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Realtruraider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Alright, the more I think about it I don’t think its all gloom and doom. Hue knows Boller very well, he knows what he can do and what he can’t. Hue must believe in Boller, so I will trust Hue will play to Bollers strengths, whatever that may be. IN HUE I TRUST
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Yes, exactly. Thank you.
And let’s get behind our players. The boos for Boller today were unacceptable and just…well…stupid.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
there is no possibility boller remains our qb for the year. hue’s not letting his playoff drive go down the drain, not when there are alternatives. and no way pryor is given the keys to a playoff-bound team either.
even if palmer and or ton are unavailable, garrard or favre are a phone call away. favre may actually want to stay retired.
but miami offered garrard, and he turned them down, saying he wasn’t interested in playing for a losing team, but he still wanted to play. it’s a perfect situation for him. and he would be an UPGRADE over campbell.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
From what i have been reading is the word is JC could be back at the end of the season. Depends on the severity and it is his throwing arm.
Don’t go blowing $$$ on trades, bring in a back up for Boler and keep it rolling. Has Edwards checked into the hotel yet?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Just win, baby.
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True. But I’m a football purist. Heck with these rules there’s hardly going to be any kickoff returns, so now more than ever you can’t rely on your kick return game to actually win games. There is always an element of luck that goes with a kickoff return TD. I don’t like the fact that without that luck, this game’s in overtime.
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No without the KO TD Hue would have kicked the FG, and we still WIN!
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Madden Raider
Please stop commenting to yourself, it’s psycho and unreal. Stay as one alias or pick another one, like Albert Bigelow paine and just comment, we know your game!!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
l moonz Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
The word is that the Raiders are flying in JaMarcus Russell to try out tomorrow…… Say it ain’t so…..
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If true then Satele is dinged or knicked pretty bad.
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LOL! he would suck as a lineman too.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Truth be told, I’m glad this team is now managed by people who won’t rely on a kick return game. The last SB team I can think of that had a big burner was GB with Desmond Howard. And of course they had a few other weapons. Basically, flashy kick returners sell tickets, they dont’ win championships. Big win today, but I’m sure Hue also notices that without Ford’s return, we put 17 points on the board today.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
This team can get better today with one of the following:
A) bring in any vet qb that will be more than just average
B) play boller who is basically jc but can run better and if not…
C) play Pryor and hope that he is anything like cam while using a ground and pound approach
Either way anything is better IMO than being stuck in mediocrity with soup
October 16th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Uh oh, Raccoon, now they think YOU’RE me, too.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I don’t wish injury on anyone, but if there’s anything good to come out of this, the much needed transition at the QB position has begun.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Just thinking–can you imagine what the NFL world would be saying right now if Al had hired Jim Harbaugh and he had done to the losing coach what he did to the Lions’ coach today? I love Hue, but maybe Harbaugh would have made a good Raider, huh?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Uh oh, Raccoon, now they think YOU’RE me, too.
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LOL you are!!!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Alex Smith is 5-1 with the 49ers. Kyle Boller can duplicate what that guy does, I hope.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
sullivan–i can’t believe i have to point this out. the return COUNTS! just like pick-sixes, fumble returns, etc. it’s football. and ford’s return, say it was for 40 yards instead, then we would have had another drive, that his return took away. we could have scored anyway. only you could see this team and think they’re not good. they are not perfect yet, but they are good. and someone like garrard could make us really good, b/c he can do a lot of things, he’s experienced, a pro-bowler, a playoff-seasoned guy, a leader w/ confidence.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Nah. Hue Jackson’s tough AND has class. I can tell you this, Hue will never rudely slap an opposing coach on the back like that. And, no opposing coach would ever get away with doing it to him, either.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Gotta give DHB credit the boy has stepped his game up, Murphy needs a couple more weeks of practice before we throw him out there!! U those alligator arms…smh
October 16th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Rob, of course it counts. A win’s a win. But I’d just rather win by scoring enough points on offense to best the opponent. That had better be every coach’s goal. I’m not comfortable with wins where a kickoff return is the difference. A pick 6…maybe…IF we’re a defensive team and we typically win with defense. But we’re not. We need our offense to put points on the board, because we’re not playing Cleveland every week.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
that 4th and 1 shouldve been 1rst down. dmc got stopped right at the 1rst down marker but the dumbazz refs gave him 1 less yard. there was no way that shouldve been 4th down. our oline has to play better next week. 2 straight games where we werent consistent pushing the dline back in the running game.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
We have to sign David Garrard. He will lead us to the playoffs and could probably be more effective than JCamp………. If we somehow brought Favre in here, we would be the talk of the league 24/7. ESPN and NFL Network will set up a tower outside Harbor Bay parking lot.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
guys, boller blows. look at his career. a 70.4 career qb rating. he is ok as a backup who can do what he did today. but he’s not changing his stripes. he will suck if he remains the starter. there are options to be had, a trade for palmer or orton, or signing favre or garrard. all 4 of those guys are much better than boller.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I thought Boss was hurt and then BOOM he shows up on that fake!
WHY IS HE NOT IN THE FOLD HUEY ?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Raiders should have won by 2 scores.
Hey, you think I’m being a downer?
Didn’t Al Davis tell Stabler after SB 11 that he has to do it again? That was it. That was his congratulations to the Snake.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
One way or another, the Raiders HAVE to bring in another QB. Hue knows it, and I trust he will make the right call. Garrard looks very tempting. We have to keep moving in a positive direction. Every game (except at GB) is very winnable.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
#47, 103, and 126:
I agree. Boller is not a starting quarterback; we won’t beat SD and get into the playoffs with him.
I’m going to leave it up to Hue. In my opinion, sign Garrard TOMORROW and he starts KC, then bye, then Denver. He has to be ready for Nov 10 at San Diego.
I don’t want Kyle Boller starting at San Diego on Nov 10. The rest of the team is too good for that and this year we have a legit shot.
Hue has 4 weeks to get the QB situation worked out. I trust him more than any coach since Chuckie (and I admit that I was a doubter after Cable got fired, but now I’m a believer).
October 16th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Great intensity today…
Special teams came up big.
Sorry to see JC go down,
thought Boller did OK once he got warmed up,
considering he got zero reps w/ 1st team.
Edwards should be on his way here, bring in any interesting FA’s on Mon/Tues…
Next man UP!
Play Like a Raider
October 16th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Favre!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
According to Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports the Raiders are pushing hard for Palmer, but Bengals owner won’t budge.
According to a source familiar with the team’s thinking, the Raiders were “trying hard” to make a deal for Palmer, although the source highly doubted that Cincinnati owner Mike Brown would deal Palmer. Oakland quarterback Jason Campbell(notes) left the game with a broken collarbone and could miss the remainder of the season. That leaves the Raiders as a playoff competitor with a shaky quarterback situation. Kyle Boller(notes) is the starter and Terrelle Pryor(notes), who just became eligible last week after a five-game suspension, is the backup.
That caused the Raiders to hit the phones quickly after the game Sunday, hoping to get the “retired” Palmer, who has been pushing for a deal since early in the offseason. In fact, Palmer politely asked Brown again this week for a trade, according to a source close to the situation. So far, no go. In all likelihood, Brown will continue to stonewall. Brown has never been a guy to give in to demands, even when they are logical. Bengals fans probably remember the package of draft picks, including at least one first-rounder and another pick that likely would have become a No. 1, Brown once turned down for wide receiver Chad Ochocinco(notes).
Beyond that, Brown might not be willing to trade Palmer to a team that he perceives as a potential playoff competitor. As the first source alluded to Sunday night after Campbell got hurt, you can point a gun at Brown’s head and he won’t flinch.
In this situation, Davis likely would pull out some serious stops. But the Raiders are in a bit of a quandary right now because they don’t have second-, third- or fourth-round picks in 2012 because of a series of moves (they used the third-rounder for Pryor in the supplemental draft, for instance).
In this situation, the Raiders would do well to offer Cincinnati a third-round pick in 2013 that could increase in value to a second- or even first-round pick if Palmer performed well either this year or in 2012.
Palmer hasn’t played very well since the 2007 season and there are lingering questions about his right elbow. Still, with Palmer there is a chance for something good and it’s clear he’s better than Campbell, even without much time to prepare.
Oakland coach Hue Jackson knows Palmer from their days together in Cincinnati. Jackson was the wide receivers coach for the Bengals from 2004-06, when Palmer was just getting started as a player. Jackson privately told people close to him that he would be interested in Palmer once Brown was willing to deal.
Well, the Raiders need to find out now and they need to find out in a hurry.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Hell, Gannon might even come here now. lmfao.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
JR77 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
This team can get better today with one of the following:
A) bring in any vet qb that will be more than just average
B) play boller who is basically jc but can run better and if not…
C) play Pryor and hope that he is anything like cam while using a ground and pound approach
Either way anything is better IMO than being stuck in mediocrity with soup
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I agree with the last line, hope for A) and I can live with B)
October 16th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Hey R Seymour…..took another week off did you?
Washed up punk!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
204.luvmarvhub Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Just thinking–can you imagine what the NFL world would be saying right now if Al had hired Jim Harbaugh and he had done to the losing coach what he did to the Lions’ coach today? I love Hue, but maybe Harbaugh would have made a good Raider, huh?
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Im not even sure what he did to piss off the lions coach. I have seen the Lions coach get pumped up and jump all around after every win they have had. Did Harbaugh say something to him?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Giordano is our blitz package specialist.
R Seymour is the invisible man.
When CJ gets back 100% we are going to have 1 helluva nickleback either CJ or DVD
October 16th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
“Time and again, the Raiders never tried a fake punt in a regular-season game.”
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Seem to recall a badly botched fake kick call by Cable that cost us a KC game…
October 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
realtrueraider,
Harbaugh slapped him hard on the back, didn’t look him in the eye and gave him some phony little handslap for a handshake. It’s not much but Schwartz is old school. Schwartz was looking him right in the eye and had his hand extended out. So I see where Schwartz is coming from.
Schwartz is old school. Harbaugh’s new schools. And new school’s all about agitating people and getting in their heads.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
sullivan–we would have won by a lot if jc would have stayed in. he may not be great but he moved the offense. boller was not good. we won b/c we are a good team and survived the loss of our decent qb. i kinda like jc, but unbelievably, i find myself in agreement about it being a possible blessing in disguise, b/c the 4 qb’s i mentioned are all better than jc. or at least as good.
garrard–brings a solid pass/run ability w/ experience and efficiency. doesn’t make that many mistakes. not flashy but solid. however, couldn’t be expected to win games on his own. will never be a big time passer.
palmer–brings experience and a track record. but he has a suspect arm at this point. hasn’t really been that good lately.
orton–i like this idea. experienced. good passer. not really his fault in denver, but they’re caving to the fans since they’re gonna lose anyway. this guy could come cheap and be the guy.
favre–it is exciting b/c of the buzz it would create. i always wanted him to just retire, but then he goes and has an amazing year 2 years ago. but he did suck last year and might be simply washed up. it could end up ruining us.
in my opinion, they rank like this:
orton
garrard
favre
palmer
October 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
He goes for it on 4th and 1 when he could just take the 3 (keep in mind we were running on them hard that drive). The D was playing great as well…
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Good points, Plunder. Still, I’d like to see a FG next time we’re in that situation. I like aggressive when there is much to be gained. In that situation? We really only need a FG to ice it. There wasn’t enough time left for 3 possessions.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
finally the McNabb era seems to be over… Never liked him as QB!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Rob, I’m not talking about the wouldas and shouldas. I’m talking about the known facts. If Jacoby doesn’t return that kickoff, we have 17 points on the board to end this game. What’s troubling is that Cleveland had 17, too.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
#216 Beach: good observation about the schedule.
It’s funny how the schedule has changed since pre-season. I was afraid of Minnesota & Miami, now those are very winnable. At Green Bay will be tough. Detroit at home will be tough. The rest are in our division and IMO we can beat Norv Turner’s San Diego.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Did D Moore run backwards on every return ?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Thec, paypal! Still hoping B@auce pays up. But yeah, paypal is the easiest.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Let’s be real.
Pryor can’t spin a football to save his life.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Rob_raider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
guys, boller blows. look at his career. a 70.4 career qb rating.
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Pray tell….what was Soup’s QB rating before the Raiders? I’ll save you the trouble…mid 70s to mid 80s. A little better, yes, but not much.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Mista, on the punt returns, yeah. He didn’t have much room, or blocking, so not like there were much better options.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
McNabb is history as a starter.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
220. “A source” pfft…
October 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Thec, paypal! Still hoping B@auce pays up. But yeah, paypal is the easiest.
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How about we double down on something?
October 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Try Some
mid 70s to mid 80s is a big range. It was mid 80s, which is MUUUUUUUCH higher than 70.4. Boller as starter the next 10 weeks = Chargers win division, Bills and Steelers get wild card.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Tony LaRussa back in the World Series. Too bad he’s going to get destroyed by Ron Washington and the Texas Rangers.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
jc= career 82.8 qb rating. much, much better than boller’s 70.4. jc was okay, but decent. boller sucks. it’s just the facts. boller has looked for his entire career exactly as he looked today. throwing passes all over the place that ur not even sure where they were supposed to be going. jc is done. we have to move on. but believe me, boller would bring this team to a screeching halt. but it’s ok. hue will bring in garrard, palmer, favre, or orton. it will end up helping us.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Is Garrard on the plane yet? If not, get him a ticket and get his a$$ here pronto. We cannot survive Boller as a starter. PERIOD as TJ would say.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Uh oh, Raccoon, now they think YOU’RE me, too.
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Yeah I see that. Those folks don’t pay attention much do they? Must be IBA rookies. I was here before you MR.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Rob, I’m not talking about the wouldas and shouldas. I’m talking about the known facts. If Jacoby doesn’t return that kickoff, we have 17 points on the board to end this game. What’s troubling is that Cleveland had 17, too.
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If Hue had kicked the field goal, Raiders probably would have won by 17. A win is a win.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
JaSoup can spend his time off with the special olympics training staff learning how to slide. The face plant slide & fumble trick is NOT fresh at all.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
BBL – Am now re-watching the game from the other side of the field. That makes it a little more interesting.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Has R Seymour been located yet? Did he get off the bus? Was he seen in the locker room? How about halftime ?
Lackluster leader!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Study history, boys. Only the Oakland Raiders lost their starting QB mid season, and had a replacement come in and lead his team to glory. That is Jim Plunkett, replacing Dan Pastorini, in 1980. It is time for the next “Jim Plunkett” to take his place with the Raiders.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
rob_raider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
in my opinion, they rank like this:
orton
garrard
favre
palmer
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Orton? If Orton was on any list I came up with it would look like this:
Trent Edwards
Troy Smith
Vince Evans
JaMarcus Russell
Kyle Orton
October 16th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Rob_raider:
”
in my opinion, they rank like this:
orton
garrard
favre
palmer
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I don’t think we have any draft picks to give up, and I’m not into giving an arm and a leg for Orton or Palmer. We have to stop that crap.
If Favre is an unconditional signing, however unrealistic this is, he can sling the ball.
BOLLER IS NOT A STARTING QUARTERBACK. HE WILL NOT LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS!
Garrard IMO is the best option. My sources tell me that Al has already ringed him from heaven, and Garrard will be working out with the Raiders tomorrow.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
249.MistaBrown Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Has R Seymour been located yet? Did he get off the bus? Was he seen in the locker room? How about halftime ?
Lackluster leader!
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You’re being a little harsh. Seymour will be the guy on Cassel’s back next Sunday!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
If we are looking at QBs to come in here and start my list is
1.Palmer
2.Favre
3.Garrard
My first to are unlikely and I don’t think Garrard would be any better than Boller, so just bring in Edwards for backup and lets ride with Boller.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Yeah Beach but Plunkett (According to Al) just went down.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Steve Corkran
@CorkOnTheNFL
Duke orthopaedic surgeon Dr. Parekh passes along info on broken clavicle. Without surgery, 8-10 weeks typical for athletes, 6-8 w/surgery.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Kyle Boller’s play reminds me of #12 Todd Marinovich! Remember that guy? How could Kyle have been drafted in first round? Has this guy regressed or what? And he’s making Millions a year while sucking. At best he may be able to manage games but wow did you see his wild misses? lol
October 16th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Beach, if Seymour is on Cassell’s back I will make a public apology.
All he is good for is a meltdown at this point in his career.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
So surgery it is!
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Morilla Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Steve Corkran
@CorkOnTheNFL
Duke orthopaedic surgeon Dr. Parekh passes along info on broken clavicle. Without surgery, 8-10 weeks typical for athletes, 6-8 w/surgery.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Orton? If Orton was on any list I came up with it would look like this:
Trent Edwards
Troy Smith
Vince Evans
JaMarcus Russell
Kyle Orton
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Orton is a good QB. We would be very fortunate to acquire Orton.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Murphy with the Ricky Waters manuever dodging that pass. Eek!
October 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I see that Boller is 6′3.
He seems alot smaller than that. I thought he was same size as Gradkowski.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Ohhh I forgot alligator Arms Murphy!
He is worthless. Hue is going to look at that on tape and vomit. And then every Safety in the league is going to take note, his career is finished.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Outside of the pipe dream to get Orton (Denver is dumb but not THAT dumb)….
we must aggressively explore GARRARD…(in any event, if we do trade NO selling our draft soul into mid decade!)
Want a silver (and black) lining I have not seen/heard from anyone yet?
If this JC episode happens next week -after- the trade deadline we have NO options (other than off the street options)….Yes we are desperate but Hue can play his best poker face and counter with, “You have 2 days to make up your mind. After that, team x you cant make any deals.” (See Aaron Curry deal for more details)
The deadline definitely cuts both ways!
PS Curry looked decent today and I didnt see one pass completed his way…
October 16th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Favre, For real? what about plunkett? or phil simms?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Beach, if Seymour is on Cassell’s back I will make a public apology.
All he is good for is a meltdown at this point in his career.
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An apology is in order.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/sacks
October 16th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Thec, I like your aggressiveness! You got some Hue in ya.
Raiders should be favorites until they play the Packers and Lions. I would take either of those.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Jeff George?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Favre would sell out the stadium, and bring attention (read much-needed $$$) to the team.
Plus he’s still better than Boller.
But yeah, Garrard makes most sense, with Kyle getting a 3-week audition to see what he’s got.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Morilla, you dumb b@stard. The KC game is next week how can an apology be in order ?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Gannon, not too long before JC’s injury, had said how much Hue had been telling him to use his legs more, to run, and Gannon concurred. Not much later, the injury and Gannon sounded sick about it, pointing out how he agreed with Hue that Jason should run more. Ah, the irony. It did sound as if Gannon was excited about the Raider’s new-found offense.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
speaking of Boller don’t forget Hue is close to him, very close. So even with Gerard here Boller will start.
I hate Boller’s footwork, throwing mechanics. He’s athletic and can run but upside very limited.
Adam Shefter says Gerard will be in Oakland on Monday!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Rob, I’m not talking about the wouldas and shouldas. I’m talking about the known facts. If Jacoby doesn’t return that kickoff, we have 17 points on the board to end this game. What’s troubling is that Cleveland had 17, too.
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This fool says that he’s “not talking about the wouldas and the shouldas”, then proceeds to say “IF”.
Idiot. An “IF” is simply another example of a “woulda and a shoulda”. Both are merely examples of a “HYPOTHETICAL” situation.
Every time this fool posts something, he proves just how dumb he really is.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Now Schefters word is golden.
lol
October 16th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
MistaBrown Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
All he is good for is a meltdown at this point in his career.
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You’ve been talking to yourself in here. All you have been doing is bashing Seymour. I just had to call you out and school you with some knowledge. Rich is having a good year so far.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
“Adam Shefter says Gerard will be in Oakland on Monday!”
SHNOTZENSHNORTZEN!!!
Glad to hear it!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Murphy played scared, he needs to het popped one good time to get the dust off, looks like jacoby did that first game back when he fumbled then injured himself.. with our depth he shouldn’t play for a couple weeks if practice… Gerrard is the only option that makes sense… Fk farve… To much drama, he’s retired and not coming back. Good… Denver not gonna give us Orton… Bottom line is pryor is a third string emergency QB, someone get Gerrard here fast, I trust hue to get it done…
October 16th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Gotta hope Boller can get it done OR Pryor is a quick study. No one off the street is going to help this team.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Was out today and just got finished watching the recording.
Hue damn near cost us that game.
A win is a win and I’ll take it. And I love what Hue is doing for this team. But what in the world is he thinking going for it on 4th and 1 rather than taking the chip shot field goal to go ahead three scores with 5 minutes to go. As soon as we missed that I had a bad feeling that it would come down to an onside kick and defensive stand.
I love going for it in most situations and I understand the mentality he’s trying to build with this team. But when you have a chance to essentially lock up a win, a win you really need, you do what’s smart and what will win you that game, rather than assert some statement.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
niners sucky sucky, eat dicky dicky. they are ready for a meltdown.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
“Did D Moore run backwards on every return ?”
He sure doesn’t seem comfortable with it–seems to think he can run away from everyone from sideline to sideline, and he can’t. He needs to be told/ordered, to run straight ahead or slant left or right no more than a yard or two, and if then if he sees a seam, just run lights out. Better to secure the ball and fall down for no gain than to run backwards and be felled or to do what often happens when a guy runs backwards and tries to make up for it with extra effort–he fumbles.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
wonder if boeller could use gerrard at fullback?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Good
October 16th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Allright.
So it looks like Garrard will be our man if Boller can’t cut it.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
I already had a bone to pick with Hue before that 4th down play. Really needed to stick with McFadden on 1st down when Boller came in the game. I’m sure the Browns were keying on the run, but I don’t care.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Kyle Boller is atrocious. How many open throws did he miss today?
I suppose it’s a tough situation coming in cold like that, but I’m not basing my evaluation on what he did today. What you saw today is what you get with Boller. It’s unacceptable.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Tuckrulefool Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
“Adam Shefter says Gerard will be in Oakland on Monday!”
SHNOTZENSHNORTZEN!!!
Glad to hear it!
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He didn’t say that. He said that he should be now that the Raiders need a QB.
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
RT @jaycatcdcr: David Garrard in Silver and Black? your thoughts? … I’d already have arranged for him to be in Oakland on Monday.
4 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
if denarius moore were more involved in the game, it would easily have been put away and out of reach by mid 3rd qtr. no matter who was under center.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
For the record,
I’ve seen more spellings of the former Jx QB than I saw for Moammar..Gadhaffi, Qadaffi, Ghadaffi, Khadaffi, etc. etc.
I think it’s “Garrard”.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
If I’m the Raiders I’m burning up the phone lines to Cincinnati right now. They’ve got the two best options for us at QB: Carson Palmer and Grads.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
L Murphy’s career is over. Getting popped will not only not help him but he wont allow himself to be in a position to get popped, that’s why he is done.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
RT @jaycatcdcr: David Garrard in Silver and Black? your thoughts? … I’d already have arranged for him to be in Oakland on Monday.
4 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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well he certainly isn’t in the office with Hue, Amy and Mark is he.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Let Boller get a week of reps with the first team before we close the book on him…
Still need another QB,
let’s get the best one we can and go forward.
Next Man UP!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
when Hue didn’t kick that FG to ice the game, I just had to scratch the fvck outta my balls and say “Why Hue Why?”
October 16th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
I would secretly love for the Raiders to dust off Jeff George. How fun would that be?
Chances are 1 in a million, I know. And I really don’t know if he’s remotely capable of still getting it done. But, if he were, and can still sling it like he used to (strong, accurate arm) could you imagine the story? The big-play completions to our burners?
That would be crazy, crazy fun.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Raider depth at QB:
1-Boeller
2-Lechler
3-Pryor*
*move up to #2 after week 12
October 16th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
night fellas…
as long I pick raider loss, we keep on winning!
if we played colts of Miami, I’d say we lose, then it would be a sure win..!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
night fellas…
as long I pick raider loss, we keep on winning!
if we played colts of Miami, I’d say we lose, then it would be a sure win..!
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what about GB?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Try Some
mid 70s to mid 80s is a big range. It was mid 80s, which is MUUUUUUUCH higher than 70.4. Boller as starter the next 10 weeks = Chargers win division, Bills and Steelers get wild card.
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Soup has a career 82 rating. Boller 70. Look, I never said Boller was better. There’s a reason Soup was starting. I’m just saying don’t underestimate Hue and DMAC in all of this. Hue has the ability to get the most out of him and I believe we can still win.
Kyle had a stretch of games where he had a 100 passer rating, so we know he has it in him.
As an example of the effect coaching and systems have on QBs, Boller had a 75 rating in 2007 with the Ravens. Went to the Rams and posted his worst numbers of his entire career.
Hue knows Boller’s strengths. Trust in Hue.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
take care guys! congrats on another great win!
raider on! as El Tato would say!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Schaffer did tweet a bouts garrard but it was a hypothetical…”I’d already have arranged for him to be in Oakland on monday”
October 16th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Balls To The Wall With Meaning Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
night fellas…
as long I pick raider loss, we keep on winning!
if we played colts of Miami, I’d say we lose, then it would be a sure win..!
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what about GB?
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if I predict a loss it seems like we will win’em =)
October 16th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
289.djohnnyg Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
For the record,
I’ve seen more spellings of the former Jx QB than I saw for Moammar..Gadhaffi, Qadaffi, Ghadaffi, Khadaffi, etc. etc.
I think it’s “Garrard”.
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How about Boller/Boeller? Which is the correct spelling?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
VanHeathen Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Let Boller get a week of reps with the first team before we close the book on him…
Still need another QB,
let’s get the best one we can and go forward.
Next Man UP!
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Exactly! What is it with these people? Guy gets all of 2+ quarters and they’re ready to write the book on him. And he posted a 79 rating. Not bad. Soup has posted an 84 so far this year. Again, not as good but quit acting like the sky is falling. Bunch of ninnies.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Schefter remember is the “rumor mongerer” al hated or was he the “professional liar”
Not sure which one it is….I’d trust what glazer puts out before any bspn idiots…that dude is never wrong
October 16th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I love going for it in most situations and I understand the mentality he’s trying to build with this team. But when you have a chance to essentially lock up a win, a win you really need, you do what’s smart and what will win you that game, rather than assert some statement.
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Yep. There’s a difference between ballsy and dumb. That was dumb.
He gets a pass in my book though, as he’s doing some nice things with this team. I hope he learned from it.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
303.realtruraider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
289.djohnnyg Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
For the record,
I’ve seen more spellings of the former Jx QB than I saw for Moammar..Gadhaffi, Qadaffi, Ghadaffi, Khadaffi, etc. etc.
I think it’s “Garrard”.
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How about Boller/Boeller? Which is the correct spelling?
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Or “Bowler”? I think it’s “Boller”.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Mortensen was the “professional liar”. And Mort gave Al big props afer he passed.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Mortensen is the “professional liar”.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Replacement QB list:
- David Garrard
- Bruce Gradkowski*
- Carson Palmer
- Jeff George
- Brett Favre
- Charlie Frye
Who else?
* Denotes player would have to be traded for.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Hue is scary with the chances he takes most must have forgotten his 4th and 1 on our OWN 35 when JC got hurt. Yes! on Boller’s first play from scrimmage he kept it on 4th and 1 on our 35 talk about BALLSY!!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Palmer would have to be traded for too, no? He would be at the top of my list. Then Garrard, followed by Grads. No thanks on the others.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Just Fire Baby says:
“Since 2007, Kyle Boller has 12 TD’s and 23 turnovers.
That’s a 5 year trend.
We have something cooking with this team, and while it will be Kyle Boller to start, we better have a plan B and C.”
That’s the post everyone should look at when discussing Boller as starter.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
303.realtruraider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
289.djohnnyg Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
For the record,
I’ve seen more spellings of the former Jx QB than I saw for Moammar..Gadhaffi, Qadaffi, Ghadaffi, Khadaffi, etc. etc.
I think it’s “Garrard”.
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How about Boller/Boeller? Which is the correct spelling?
—
Or “Bowler”? I think it’s “Boller”.
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“Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
I think he’s sick today.”
Bueller!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Have to say, Favre would be interesting to finish the season. A gunslinger with our WR’s and runnimg game could be potent with as well as our O-line is playing.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Hue is scary with the chances he takes most must have forgotten his 4th and 1 on our OWN 35 when JC got hurt. Yes! on Boller’s first play from scrimmage he kept it on 4th and 1 on our 35 talk about BALLSY!!
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That’s right! And good example of success making people forget. If that had failed, we’d be ripping it. But truth be told, I really don’t like going on 4th and 1 on our 35. Eesh!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
VanHeathen Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Let Boller get a week of reps with the first team before we close the book on him…
Still need another QB,
let’s get the best one we can and go forward.
Next Man UP!
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Exactly! What is it with these people? Guy gets all of 2+ quarters and they’re ready to write the book on him. And he posted a 79 rating. Not bad. Soup has posted an 84 so far this year. Again, not as good but quit acting like the sky is falling. Bunch of ninnies.
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Sorry but Boller is terrible. He had years to prove himself in Baltimore. Another chance in St. Louis. Have seen nothing different from him in spot duty or preseason in Oakland than what I saw in those places, which is exactly what you saw today.
Realize that we had two special teams touchdowns, one TD when Campbell was in there. The only other points we had were when the defense got a fumble on Cleveland’s 25 and Boller damn near took us out of FG range.
We don’t have time to mess around. Our next two games are games we should win. They are division games. They are games we really need to put in the bank to challenge for this division.
I’d rather see Terrelle Pryor in there off one week of practice than Boller. But I’d rather see us not do that either and make a move for a legit starter right now.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports the Raiders are “trying hard” to acquire Palmer. Cole’s source “highly doubts” Bengals owner Mike Brown would make a move, but perhaps the Raiders could make him think with a big offer.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
PFT says Raiders trying to get Palmer.
Hue knows Palmer from his Cincy days, obviously
October 16th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Truth be told Hue jackson is silly like a fox there is no way he does these things against a Pat’s or Ravens team the truth is he didn’t respect the Browns offense and he really is starting to get cocky about our defense. When you know your dfense will take care of you, you can take chances you otherwise wouldn’t. So eventhough it looks uncalculated in truth he is looking at the backend.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Just Fire Baby says:
“Since 2007, Kyle Boller has 12 TD’s and 23 turnovers.
That’s a 5 year trend.
We have something cooking with this team, and while it will be Kyle Boller to start, we better have a plan B and C.”
That’s the post everyone should look at when discussing Boller as starter.
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LOL! Since 2007?!!! Why since 2007? So you’re only taking his time with the Rams? This is the absolute dumbest post on this topic and we should focus on it? Why, because it jives with your opinion? LMAO at you. Just LMAO
October 16th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
K whoever said Jamarcus is coming in for a tryout should be banned lol jk. But seriously it was our QB that was injured not an OL
October 16th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Hue is the Steve Spurrier of the NFL.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
I just watched the link someone provided (thanks!) of the 1980 frigid playoff game in Cleveland, the one in which Mike Davis intercepts a Brian Sipes’ pass in the end zone, in the last two minutes, sending the Raiders to the AFC championship game in SD, then onto the Super Bowl as a wildcard team. I remember watching that game on tv, my dad in his recliner, on the edge of it the last five minutes, with me screaming and yelling, and him hushing me at every turn. (He was trying to keep his blood pressure under control).
It struck me watching those guys, even our great offensive line, just how small they look in comparison to today’s players. They put up Cliff Branch’s numbers, said he was 6′2″, 215, but I don’t believe that for a minute. He was/is a slight guy.
Anyway, I was thinking that with today’s players being so big and fast, it’s just about impossible for guys to make it through a season, much less even a short career, without severe, game-limiting injuries. That’s the one thing that has happened to the NFL that makes today’s NFL inferior to the NFL of two decades or so ago. Speed + power + collisions=season-ending or career-ending injuries.
The size of offensive lineman has grown so much that it seems their knees and ankles give way much more than those of their counterparts years ago. Looking at Upshaw and Shell, they looked downright slim!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Two more:
- Trent Edwards
- Troy Smith
Smith has ties to Hue from Baltimore. Edwards was a surprise cut in camp.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Thec, I like your aggressiveness! You got some Hue in ya.
Raiders should be favorites until they play the Packers and Lions. I would take either of those.
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Ok lest say double down on the detroit game…
I win, you on the hook for 110. You lose that wipes it clean.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Still laughing at the notion that we should arbitrarily pick the time since 2007 to focus on Boller’s accomplishments. You guys are beautiful.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
What do we have to offer for Palmer that we don’t need?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I might, might take JaDrank over Boller.
Seriously.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Replacement qb list rank:
Carson (improbable)
Garrard
Leinart
Favre (stays retired-no go)
Orton (Denver will never allow it)
Mcnabb
Claussen
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Campbell broke his collarbone because the defensive lineman piled on at the end of the play.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I prefer a mobile qb to Palmer.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Carson (improbable)
Garrard
Leinart
Favre (stays retired-no go)
Orton (Denver will never allow it)
Mcnabb
Claussen
( why would anyone give up their back up qb–damn madden general managers)
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None of these guys can help us!
Our Best bet is to resign Trent Edwards make him the # 2 qb and roll with the punches
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Campbell broke his collarbone because the defensive lineman piled on at the end of the play.
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Kirk
What defensive lineman?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I might, might take JaDrank over Boller.
Seriously.
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And I’d consider you a moron. Seriously.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Did Siragusa play out there for the browns?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
It’d be interesting to see Favre in Silver and Black on Dec. 15th at Lambeau one last time.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
(I’ve been saying this since last season) Jason Campbell doesn’t know how to slide! Ricky Henderson has some oakland roots bring him in and show him how to slide!
too late now.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Our Best bet is to resign Trent Edwards make him the # 2 qb and roll with the punches
October 16th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
If Harbaugh can make Alex Smith effective, with time, Hue can make Boller effective. It’s what you ask a guy to do and the reps he gets to do it that pay off. Bad thing is, today in his presser, Hue said Jason got 98% of the snaps in practice. For JC and team that was good and probably why we saw so much improvement both his play and that of the whole offense. However, now, it’s bad. We have to give Boller support. The game is very psychological for any guy in his position.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
The more I think about it, I’d prefer Favre. Think we’d see what this offense could really do with a gifted QB even with a scaled down playbook to begin.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Shark I am really nervous about pinning my hopes on boller….I still think he should start until whoever gets here gets acclimated but to have Edwards as a safety valve is insane…rather rely on Pryor
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
If you guys havent noticed, we dont need our qb to do a whole lot here in Oak to win. We’re a run first team and play off of that. We won with Capt Checkdown and we won today with Mrs. Prejean. We got playmakers all over the roster on the O. Even Mrs. Prejean was able to hit Schilens on a long throw and keep it in bound (had it not been for Satele’s hold). Baltimore was not as deep on offense as we are now on offense. It would seriously take a complete moron to lose games against mediocre or inferior teams. Taking on the top tiers in this league is another story and we aint ready for primetime yet anyways.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
334.Raider Dell Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Campbell broke his collarbone because the defensive lineman piled on at the end of the play.
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Kirk
What defensive lineman?
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Number 99 whoever that is.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
One step forward – two steps back.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Boller is terrible. He’s inaccurate, unpoised and prone to turning the ball over.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Shark?? Why would anyone give up their backup QB??
That’s who you deal.
Eagles trade Kolb and McNabb (knew he wasn’t starting).
Falcons traded Schaub when he was a backup.
Seahawks traded for a Charger backup (Whitehurst).
Chiefs traded for Patriots backup (Cassel).
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Ona side note:
Just stated watching the TV broadcast…
as they opened w/ clips from last week and went to Marv Albert and Gannon, you can see Rich’s eyes were red and he looked like he was on the verge of tears and trying hard to keep it together.
I don’t care about the SuperBowl loss, there were other factors that contributed to that game…
Rich Gannon will always be a Raider
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Jason Cole of Yahoo reporting we are trying hard to trade for Palmer…It reeks of BS though read the article his “source” sounds like it could be any Raider fan in the US…LoL
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Mrs. Prejean. We got playmakers all over the roster on the O. Even Mrs. Prejean was able to hit Schilens on a long throw and
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I also saw him throw a pass with all his might and was about 15 yards short of the target
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Been There,Done That…
Seen Boller for years here in Baltimore when Brian Billick drafted him because he threw a pass on his knees 60 yrds at the combine.The Ravens defense damn near wanted to execute this guy because week in and week out he would make MISTAKES!!!
If he isn’t turning the ball over,he would be mismanaging the clock.He has zero field awareness,he is not a leader and he LOCKS ONTO RECEIVERS.I do believe that he was made a starter too soon in his career.
The opposition will stack the box and dare this guy to beat them…HE ALWAYS LOOKED SCARED TO ME.We will miss the play action pass from Campbell that Boller cannot execute.In preseason,I thought Edwards was coming along quite well but his playing time kept getting reduced.
We are 4-2 , not 2-4…people please stop the Pryor talk.He is not ready for this…no OTA’s no PRESEASON….come on.
We want to get to the playoffs and then make a run for the SB so let’s make Garrard an offer.Or see what Brett is talking about.I truly believe that since the Bengals are at 4-2 that they may be looking to deal Palmer to obtain a few weapons.M Bush wants to be a #1 back somewhere and we have a receiver that we can deal(Murph Schilens).Palmer would be a huge upgrade at the position and he won’t be far from home!!!
October 16th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Try Some
Boller played for the Ravens in 2007. So, laugh at yourself.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Luvmarvhub Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
If Harbaugh can make Alex Smith effective, with time, Hue can make Boller effective. It’s what you ask a guy to do and the reps he gets to do it that pay off. Bad thing is, today in his presser, Hue said Jason got 98% of the snaps in practice. For JC and team that was good and probably why we saw so much improvement both his play and that of the whole offense. However, now, it’s bad. We have to give Boller support. The game is very psychological for any guy in his position.
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Thank you for inserting some intelligence into this discussion. Great example right there. All of these same folks would be b1tch1ng about Smith here and look what he’s doing with Harbaugh.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Eagles trade Kolb and McNabb (knew he wasn’t starting).
Falcons traded Schaub when he was a backup.
Seahawks traded for a Charger backup (Whitehurst).
Chiefs traded for Patriots backup (Cassel).
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which ones were trade in the middle of the season?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I do think that Favre is truly done and has no intention of coming back.
It is tantalizing though. Always felt like the gunslinger was fated to play at least one season in Oakland.
Great play-action, deep ball passer. Great fit if he’s still got it.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I say start Lechler at QB. He has to be better than Boller. KC then a bye week. Hopefully we can get Palmer but most likely it will be Garrard unfortunately.
October 16th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Boller has a career 56% completion percentage.
56 percent! Career! That is TERRIBLE.
Despite having great Ravens running game, and Steven Jackson behind him.
DESPITE being asked to just manage games in Baltimore.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
334.Raider Dell Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Campbell broke his collarbone because the defensive lineman piled on at the end of the play.
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Kirk
What defensive lineman?
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Number 99 whoever that is.
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Kirk
Number 99 was linebacker Scott Fujita, who later left with a head injury and number 52 was D’Quell Jackson, probably the best linebacker in the AFC.
No defensive lineman hit Campbell.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
IF Favre were ever even remotely considering one last shot, this would be the perfect situation.
-Team with a realistic chance of doing things in the playoffs.
-A real nice receiving corps and the NFL’s leading rusher.
-A pretty good OLine to protect him.
-No training camp. Just step in and kick some butt.
It’s a pipe dream, but it sure would be fun to see.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
But why take just that last year? Just because it suits your argument? You took 1 year with the Ravens and 1 with the crappy Rams. What about the rest of his time?
Meh, there’s no use. In the end, Hue will make the best decision based on what he sees. Whether it’s rolling with Boller or picking someone else up. I’m game with what he decides.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
ravenaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Been There,Done That…
We want to get to the playoffs and then make a run for the SB so let’s make Garrard an offer.Or see what Brett is talking about.I truly believe that since the Bengals are at 4-2 that they may be looking to deal Palmer to obtain a few weapons.M Bush wants to be a #1 back somewhere and we have a receiver that we can deal(Murph Schilens).Palmer would be a huge upgrade at the position and he won’t be far from home!!!
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how does the saying go…If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a merry christmas.”
October 16th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I also saw him throw a pass with all his might and was about 15 yards short of the target
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yes I saw the same thing and a few others too. Hue actually made a mistake in his play calling when this guy got in. Should have called dumpoffs and screens to get him in rythm. That’s how he started the 2nd half and you can obviously see Mrs. Prejean got better as the game went on. I remember his major flaw as being a guy that overthrows and we saw a few of those. I’ll cut him some slack until next week. I think he will be better than today.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
JR77 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Shark I am really nervous about pinning my hopes on boller….
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I agree. But I’d also be nervous about pinning my hopes on Soup. Beautiful thing is, we don’t have to pin our hopes on either. This isn’t an offense that relies on great QB play.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
why compare Boller randomly to Alex Smith?
Smith threw for 18 TDs and 12 pics two seasons ago.
Smith threw for 14 TDs and 10 picks last year.
Smith completed 60% of his passes the last two years.
All of that is better than Boller has EVER done.
Thus, Smith has shown himself to be more talented than Boller.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
358.Raider Dell Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
334.Raider Dell Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Campbell broke his collarbone because the defensive lineman piled on at the end of the play.
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Kirk
What defensive lineman?
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Number 99 whoever that is.
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Kirk
Number 99 was linebacker Scott Fujita, who later left with a head injury and number 52 was D’Quell Jackson, probably the best linebacker in the AFC.
No defensive lineman hit Campbell.
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It was Scott Fujita. He wears number 99.
I thought 99 would be a defensive lineman.
In any case his piling on is the reason Campbell broke his collarbone.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Would Cinci take Bush for Palmer? hmmm
October 16th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
You guys act like Soup was perfect. He made some throws today that had our entire section saying in unison “Who was that to, Campbell?”
NEWSFLASH: We don’t have a star QB here. Go play chicken little somewhere else.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
358.Raider Dell Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
334.Raider Dell Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Campbell broke his collarbone because the defensive lineman piled on at the end of the play.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kirk
What defensive lineman?
………………………………
Number 99 whoever that is.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kirk
Number 99 was linebacker Scott Fujita, who later left with a head injury and number 52 was D’Quell Jackson, probably the best linebacker in the AFC.
No defensive lineman hit Campbell.
……………………………………..
It was Scott Fujita. He wears number 99.
I thought 99 would be a defensive lineman.
In any case his piling on is the reason Campbell broke his collarbone.
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JASON CAMPBELL doesnt know how to SLIDE
October 16th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Try Some Reality,
for his CAREER Boller has been WORSE than Alex Smith.
Think about that.
Assuming he’ll suddenly just improve in the next 10 weeks is illogical wishful thinking.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
This Favre talk is hilarious and entertaining….keep it coming..lmfao
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
not sure why some of you seem so against trying to improve our position, something that Hue is very determined to do.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Boller was 3-3 for 45 yards on the last drive.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Alex Smith is still junk and actually not that much better than Boller. Quick fact, A Smith has only 1 300 yd in his career so far. Boller zero. Even Tebow has managed a 300 yd game in his few starts. A Smith is living off of his defense and spec teams this year.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
OAKLAND STARTED CALLING TEAMS immediately AFTER THE GAME.
Why? For a backup QB? lol, come on.
If Hue just wanted a basic backup QB, he wouldn’t be calling teams.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
My preferences, in order:
- Favre
- Palmer
- Grads
- Jeff George
- Troy Smith
- Garrard
- Frye
- Edwards
October 16th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Our Best bet is to resign Trent Edwards make him the # 2 qb and roll with the punches
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This will happen.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Picking and choosing your stats again, Alex. First we were using career QB rating, then everything since 2007, now it’s the last 2 years. Amazing. Let’s go back to the first comment about career rating. Smith is 74.3. Hmm…pretty close to 70.4
What time frame shall we use next?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Alex Smith is still junk and actually not that much better than Boller. Quick fact, A Smith has only 1 300 yd in his career so far. Boller zero. Even Tebow has managed a 300 yd game in his few starts. A Smith is living off of his defense and spec teams this year.
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Exactly, plus very good running game, F. Gore.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
not sure what how the 49ers defense helps Alex Smith throw 8 TDs and 2 INTs and beat the blitz at an NFL-best rate, but ok.
The point is Hue is on the phones looking for a QB. That means he knows he’s not putting this special season in Boller’s hands.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Who throws farther, Jeff George or Favre?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
If Palmer wants to play he should report to Cinci and make them pay him $11 million to be a distraction and ride the bench. Hue used to coach in Cinci. I’m sure he could urge Palmer to press the issue if he wants to be a Raiduh.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Try Some
2 years, career, since 2007…
are you missing the point that Boller has ALWAYS been very bad?
And that Hue is on the phones TONIGHT trying to upgrade?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Aig – I agree. Smith isn’t anything special. Just a good example of good coaching and surrounding cast masking any inefficiencies.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
lol at you guys thinking we’ll just re-sign Trend Edwards.
HUE IS CALLING CINCY AND OTHER TEAMS!!
Wake up and realize Hue isn’t lazy. He wants to win, and he’s showing us all that he doesn’t trust Boller.
You don’t call other teams to talk about a #3 QB!!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
try some reality , you need to “try some reality” with your assessment on Boller, I get wanting to support him and hoping for the best.But come on man!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Ya, it takes time to learn a system and become a productive NFL QB, and most of you, if not a large majority, believe that Pryor can’t do it.
It’s amazing how all the experts say he needs time…blah blad blad…he doesn’t need time, he just needs the opportunity.
Like in the movie the Matrix,
Morpheus (Lawrence fishburne), knew that Neo (Keanu Reeves) was the ONE. I truely believe that Pryor is the ONE. Come on guys, from out of the blue, he falls onto us in a supplemental draft. Certain things are meant to be. Pryor has so much UPSIDE that I’m forced to use capital letters when I write the word. Big, fast, strong, athleticn and a QB who can run and kill you in the process.
Ya, Pryor will be ready, at least with this team and all the weapons that come with it. Leading Running back and an arsenal of lazor fast receivers. By the time we face the dischargers, if Boller gets hurt, Pryor will be ready to lead us to victory.
Why you ask? Because he’s the ONE. Just ask Morpheus.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
reporter: “Hue, why are you calling Cincy and other NFL teams?”
Hue: “Because I want to just re-sign Trent Edwards, roll with Boller, and waste a beautiful season.”
???
October 16th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
370.JR77 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
This Favre talk is hilarious and entertaining….keep it coming..lmfao
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Ha. Sorry, that’s all i’ve got for tonight. Someone else is gonna have to pick it up from here.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
If we happen to trade for a #1 qb you have to figure he would’t be able to start at until after the bye week at the earliest?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Brad Pitt, Moneyball:
“there are good passers,
there are bad passers,
then there’s 50 feet of &#!$,
then there’s Terrell Pryor’s passing.”
October 16th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
You just compared Alex Smith’s career to Boller’s. I showed you it’s not that much different.
If Hue’s on the phones, great. We can always use improvement there. Especially with our cast, even when Soup is healthy (he’s nothing special). I’m not here saying Boller will be an allstar here. I just don’t get the chicken little mentality. Get ovah it, dude. Whether it’s Boller or someone else we bring in, we have a good team with a good o-line, good receivers, and a good RB. The QB doesn’t need to be Brady.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Chris in NY…you left off Pryor…he’s the ONE!
Just ask Morpheus!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Well Rex Grossman just got benched.
Shanahan would love to unload him on us.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Farve’s silver and black beard would look nice in a silver and black uni…lol
October 16th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Hagar the Horrible Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Ya, it takes time to learn a system and become a productive NFL QB, and most of you, if not a large majority, believe that Pryor can’t do it.
It’s amazing how all the experts say he needs time…blah blad blad…he doesn’t need time, he just needs the opportunity.
Like in the movie the Matrix,
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And…..that’s where ya lost me.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Favre could be like George Blanda reincarnated.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
#395 lol
October 16th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
yeah Shark,
would probably start in 3 weeks. All we’d have to do is go 1-1 in the meantime to keep the playoff hopes alive.
If we start Boller, we lose to the Chargers, Bears, and Packers in the span of one month, and the season is done.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Does anyone have any links to any reports about the QB situation from any sources?
I’m sure Schefter and the like are all on it and sure have leaked something by now…
October 16th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Marader508 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
try some reality , you need to “try some reality” with your assessment on Boller, I get wanting to support him and hoping for the best.But come on man!
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All I’m saying is until we have a better option, support your QB. Is that too much to ask? Or do you want to be like the fairy fans across the bay that boo at anything? The booing today was despicable. Hue admitted Soup’s been getting darn near all the snaps. Of course he’s going to come out rusty. And he posted a 79 rating. Not that far from Soup. And without any practice.
If Hue’s on the phone, great. Let’s do this. For now, quit acting like the world is coming to an end and trust in your coach.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
A7,
I wont waste other bloggers time on here. Why dont you do a quick look at A Smith’s stats this year and you’ll see what I’m talking about. They won 2 games this year and he didnt even throw a TD in either of them 124 yds and 201 yds.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
#399 Jason cole of yahoo has an article about getting Palmer but his “source” is laughable
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
EMRaiders,
Jason Cole of Yahoo! reporting Raiders are “trying hard” to get Carson Palmer:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ao95aEr0F.ZQtjLs824MX._.uLYF?slug=jc-cole_winners_losers_jason_campbell_carson_palmer_101611
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Ravenaider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Been There,Done That…
I truly believe that since the Bengals are at 4-2 that they may be looking to deal Palmer to obtain a few weapons.M Bush wants to be a #1 back somewhere and we have a receiver that we can deal(Murph Schilens).Palmer would be a huge upgrade at the position and he won’t be far from home!!!
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this is a great point. cedric benson sucks and is gonna have a 3-game suspension soon. bush would be a big addition for them. also, murphy could be dealt too. i’m not sure cindy would bite but they might. on the other hand, i’m not sure i want palmer.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
They’ve been saying that when Harbaugh arrived, he realized it was impossible to get another qb so he spent all the time after he was hired studying film of Alex Smith–what he did well, what he did poorly, and then he designed the playbook with that in mind. ]
It’s not hard to see he decided that Smith didn’t have to throw long. All he had to do was throw short to medium passes to guys like Vernon Davis who’d move the chains. Throw quick slants. Let guys use their legs. And, he made him learn to throw the ball away when there was nothing there–the same thing Jason did well.
Funny how a guy’s confidence grows when the chains are moved by his teammates and he can even make better throws when called upon.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Shark,
and if Alex Smith was our #2 right now to JC, you can bet your butt that Hue would be looking to upgrade just as he is with Boller.
So what’s your point? Hue wants to upgrade. He was on the phones tonight.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
A7,
I wont waste other bloggers time on here. Why dont you do a quick look at A Smith’s stats this year and you’ll see what I’m talking about. They won 2 games this year and he didnt even throw a TD in either of them 124 yds and 201 yds.
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I don’t want to play like that ;/ ” I’m going home and taking my ball with me”
October 16th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Alex
You love to pick stats that suit your point in this blog. Let do a side by side comparision as both QB’s have at the end of last year.
Smith record 19-31, 947 comp att 1640. 57.7 comp% with 10,364 yards and 58 touchdowns and 54 int’s.
Boller, 20-26 846 comp 1491 att 56.7 comp% with 8770 yards and 48 touchdown 51 int.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Chris In NY Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
EMRaiders,
Jason Cole of Yahoo! reporting Raiders are “trying hard” to get Carson Palmer:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ao95aEr0F.ZQtjLs824MX._.uLYF?slug=jc-cole_winners_losers_jason_campbell_carson_palmer_101611
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A source “familiar with the team’s thinking”? Hahaha
October 16th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Shark,
and if Alex Smith was our #2 right now to JC, you can bet your butt that Hue would be looking to upgrade just as he is with Boller.
So what’s your point? Hue wants to upgrade. He was on the phones tonight.
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what did I say…? I want another qb
October 16th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
not sure why some of you seem so against trying to improve our position, something that Hue is very determined to do.
………..
Because they don’t want anyone other than Al to get the credit. You make he playoffs with Carson Palmer and zone blitzing, it’s hard to put Al’s stamp on it.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Sharkcatcher…What I’m trying to say it that you just never really know how good or how bad a guy can be. Look at JaFatazz, he was the next coming of John Elway.
Never happened, JaFatazz was a fat lazy slob. With Pryor, all the “so-called-expecters” say he needs time. Where were all the experts when we signed JaFatazz?
The point, just like the movie the Matrix, Pryor could be the ONE. He has all the tools and some people just rise to the occasion when the opportunity presents itself.
Here’s a take from Kirt…post 146, previous, posting:
Kirk Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Campbell’s injury could be a blessing in disguise. Campbell wasn’t going to take us to the Superbowl, and he probably wasn’t going to be here next year. Play Boller, sign Garrard, and get Pryor ready as soon as possible.
I just say, play Boller and get Pryor ready, asap, he may be the ONE.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
#400 listen man , i hear ya… i live in MA so i dont go to games i would not boo him…i would have boo’d Russell back in the day though….Im just saying all these weapons u speak of will be gone when defense’s just focus on that…Look at McFaddens number once Boller came in…i agree this system does not need a Brady QB but it needs something better than Boller…i support whatever Hue does , but hoping to bring some one in, it couldnt hurt
October 16th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
LuvMarv,
the 49ers have a top-5 NFL defense.
Ours was ranked in the bottom third until we faced a terrible Browns offense.
It doesn’t matter what’s working for SF. We need a better QB than Boller here to make this season work.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Terrell Pryor played in the biggest game of his college career and he did just as well as Cam Newton (another guy that supposedly can’t pass in the nfl) vs the same SEC opponent.
Vs Arkansas
Cam 140 yds passing 1 td, 188 rushing 3 tds
Pryor 221 passing 2 tds, 115 rushing
One guy is stronger and one guy is faster. Pryor will prove you doubters wrong. AD didng give up a 3rd round pick for him to let him sit. JC’s future with the Raiders was over the moment AD committed to Pryor.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Shark,
and if Alex Smith was our #2 right now to JC, you can bet your butt that Hue would be looking to upgrade just as he is with Boller.
So what’s your point? Hue wants to upgrade. He was on the phones tonight.
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If you’re asking what the point is, then it’s not worth explaining. Read back through the posts.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
WE can’t rely on fake FGs and kickoff returns every week.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
413: great post.
Campbell made D’s honor the pass and not load up on McFadden.
Boller does no such thing. Other available QBs would. Simple. Hue has already made calls.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Aig:
Cam broke passing efficiency records in the SEC!
Pryor had terrible games vs every decent defense he faced (Iowa, Miami, USC, Wisconsin).
Just because they’re both black…don’t compare them.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Hagar the Horrible Says:
Prior has all the tools and some people just rise to the occasion when the opportunity presents itself.
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He kinda throws like he has a lobster hand. that’s just my opinion. Luckly , Im not a qb coach.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Alex – who has Hue called so far?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Shark, Try Some,
you’re trying to tell us that Boller can “manage” games and still get us to the playoffs.
Hue doesn’t believe that. He’s already trying to upgrade, has already made calls.
I believe Hue.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
I’d like to see Garrard or Palmer. Make it happen Hue, Amy, Mark.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Remember that in NFL drafts, QBs are a premium and get pushed up the draft boards, getting drafted higher than their skill may warrant. IE 2nd round talent QBs (Locker, Ponder) go in the 1st.
For a QB to last until the 3rd, at that premium position…yuck, means he has 4th round backup QB passing skills.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Shark, Try Some,
you’re trying to tell us that Boller can “manage” games and still get us to the playoffs.
Hue doesn’t believe that. He’s already trying to upgrade, has already made calls.
I believe Hue.
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I never said such thing. If they can make a trade great – What I said — If we cant get a #1 We will have to sign Trent Edwards make him the #2 qb and roll with the punches
October 16th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
“That caused the Raiders to hit the phones quickly after the game Sunday, hoping to get the “retired” Palmer, who has been pushing for a deal since early in the offseason.”
not a rumor, not a “they should”, but a statement of fact.
And if Hue called about Palmer, he’s not looking to just sign a backup to Boller.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
qb ratings
campbell career: 82.8 2011: 84.3
boller career: 70.4
palmer career: 86.9 2010: 82.4
favre career: 86.0 2010: 69.9
garrard career: 85.8 2010: 90.8
mcnabb career: 85.5 2011: 80.0
orton career: 79.4 2011: 75.7 2010: 87.5
v.young career: 75.7 2010: 98.6
leinart career: 70.8
gradkowski career: 66.5 2010: 66.3
quinn career: 66.8
claussen career: 58.4
October 16th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
# Kaepernick is a prime example of that…i still hope Pryor can be something though..im rooting for him with realistic expectations
October 16th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Aig Raider…post 415:
Now your talking. Excellent observation and factual backup. Excellente!!!
I surely agree. After all, he could be the ONE!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
#424
October 16th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Neither QB can “get us to the playoffs” on his own merit. Print that.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Come on, Shark.
SharkCatcher Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Our Best bet is to resign Trent Edwards make him the # 2 qb and roll with the punches
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that’s just quitting on the season, and you say that’s “our best bet.”
October 16th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Aig:
Cam broke passing efficiency records in the SEC!
Pryor had terrible games vs every decent defense he faced (Iowa, Miami, USC, Wisconsin).
Just because they’re both black…don’t compare them.
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Wow, the first thing that came off your mind is race baiting? Dude you lost all respect from me. Raider Dell is right you throw stats around only to support your argument and conveniently ignore the truth. When cornered, you throw out the race card.
If you noticed, I pointed out their performances and physical differences. One guy is 6-5 248 and will run you over. One guy is 6-3 233 and can out run most of the guys on your team. Both got a cannon arm and CARRIED their respective college teams. But I guess all that you see is a Black QB when you look at these guys. I wonder who really has some racial complex.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
One reason Hue is on the phone is we need another qb whether he’s slated to be a #1 or a #2.
No way can Pryor do anything more than hand off, run a little bit himself. Pryor should sit all season or, preferably, have a few plays in which he is inserted at multiple locations to confuse the defense, since he can run, and I am assuming he can also catch the ball a bit.
I think Hue, with his imagination, will have some plays for Pryor, but as far as qb-ing, gee I hope not. Talk about a way to ruin a guy before he’s ready.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
our best bet – ” if we cant get a #1 qb
October 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Who wrote that, Alex? I’m just curious at this point. I’d like to see Palmer here. He’s an upgrade ever everyone.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Really Try Some?
What’s been the difference between this season and last, other than better play from our QB (and by extension, our WRs/)?
Run defense still sucks, pass-rushers are still top notch, DMac is still lighting it up.
It’s a QB / D-Coordinator league, get on board.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Here’s the link to the Jason Cole report:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ao95aEr0F.ZQtjLs824MX._.uLYF?slug=jc-cole_winners_losers_jason_campbell_carson_palmer_101611
October 16th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Interesting. Carson is an intriguing option, if healthy and conditioned he might be worth a try. I just wouldn’t give up too much. It’s a bit of a high risk move. Maybe if they do it with conditional picks…
October 16th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
djohnnyg Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
IF Favre were ever even remotely considering one last shot, this would be the perfect situation.
-Team with a realistic chance of doing things in the playoffs.
-A real nice receiving corps and the NFL’s leading rusher.
-A pretty good OLine to protect him.
-No training camp. Just step in and kick some butt.
It’s a pipe dream, but it sure would be fun to see.
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This was my thought exactly.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Just because they’re both black…don’t compare them.
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Wait, you just went there. Not Aig. Very random comment. Nobody here was thinking that.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Aig,
so one QB runs fast and was an average-at-best QB in an average conference. He was a 3rd rounder.
The other QB can run over you, and broke passing records in the toughest conference (SEC) in the nation. Picked #1 overall.
And you find the two guys comparable? Makes no sense.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
I’d love to “give Boller a chance”, but we are a contender for the playoffs right?
Do we have the luxury of giving Boller two or three games to “see how he does out there”?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
lol, you guys compare Pryor to Newton when they’re world’s apart in skill set, and I’m terrible for theorizing the reason you do this is that they’re both black.
Why is no one comparing Pryor to the strong-armed, fast-running, bad-pocket-passing Kyle Boller?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Aig,
so one QB runs fast and was an average-at-best QB in an average conference. He was a 3rd rounder.
The other QB can run over you, and broke passing records in the toughest conference (SEC) in the nation. Picked #1 overall.
And you find the two guys comparable? Makes no sense.
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Judge Joe Brown says ” Alex has a point”
October 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Djohnny,
we HAVE to give him a 2-3 game chance. No one can step in and play right away. Look at Colts and Kerry Collins.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Really Try Some?
What’s been the difference between this season and last, other than better play from our QB (and by extension, our WRs/)?
Run defense still sucks, pass-rushers are still top notch, DMac is still lighting it up.
It’s a QB / D-Coordinator league, get on board.
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You think Soup is the difference? LOL. Okay, buddy…
October 16th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Thanks Hagar.
the reason why I used that logic is due to my observation of the Suh vs McCoy debate coming into that draft. They both played Texas and Suh owned Texas. I couldnt believe it that people were rating McCoy higher. The best way to evaluate 2 guys is watch them against the same top tier opponent. McCoy 3 tackles vs Texas in 2009. Suh 10 tackles 4.5 sacks. We all know how they both turned out so far.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Here’s the link to the Jason Cole report:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ao95aEr0F.ZQtjLs824MX._.uLYF?slug=jc-cole_winners_losers_jason_campbell_carson_palmer_101611
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This is the source “familiar with the team’s thinking”? LOL.
Okay, on this note, I’m done here. Have a good night, folks.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
You can’t really compare Pryor with Cam Newton. Pryor is more Vince Young than Newton.
I liked the Pryor pick. Why not gamble on that upside with a 3rd rounder in the supplemental draft? But I don’t see him having the kind of impact VY did early on in Tennessee either.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
As listed by Aig Raider:
qb ratings
campbell career: 82.8 2011: 84.3
boller career: 70.4
palmer career: 86.9 2010: 82.4
favre career: 86.0 2010: 69.9
garrard career: 85.8 2010: 90.8
mcnabb career: 85.5 2011: 80.0
orton career: 79.4 2011: 75.7 2010: 87.5
v.young career: 75.7 2010: 98.6
leinart career: 70.8
gradkowski career: 66.5 2010: 66.3
quinn career: 66.8
claussen career: 58.4
They’re all losers.
Not on the above list is Terell Pryor and no one, not anyone on this planet, knows for sure how good he can be or how long it will take him to perform to a winning level.
All the experts would have told you that the rookie Jacob Ford can’t start and perform, or D. Moore can’t start and perform…they need time. Ya, some people do and some people don’t.
But, Terrell Pryor was awesome in college, has the tools, has a team with many offensive weapons and you put them all together and he might be the ONE.
Lets see before we toss him to the wolves.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
“We need a better QB than Boller here to make this season work.”
You are assuming that a “better” qb will be able to march in here without any camp, without familiarity with the playbook, without any bonding with his teammates, without it all, and lead us to the playoffs.
I agree that there are guys with better arms, better skills than Boller, but this isn’t training camp where that qb would get a chance to meld with the system, the coaches, the team.
We have to win our division. to get to the playoffs, most likely. Doubt we’ll be a wild card. I can’t see someone like Palmer, who hasn’t played at all for how long, come in and win us games. I’d like for that to happen, but I can’t see it. Garrard would be a better choice, but even then, is it asking too much?
Heck, in football, even the snap, something you and I and just about all football fans take for granted, is something that takes timing, and timing comes from reps and familiarity, and even a back-up has some trouble with that so what would happen with someone completely new? And the verbiage of the system? How long would that take a new qb to learn?
I don’t know, guys. I think it’s almost impossible w/out at least a few mini-camps under his belt for new guy to do better than a back-up who’s been here. Better Hue changes the game plans to suit things Boller can do.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
lol Try Some,
Do I think the fact JC has NOT gotten benched for 1.5 of the first 3 games this season, as opposed to last season, has made a difference in our fast start?
Yes! Call me crazy!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
alex7 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Djohnny,
we HAVE to give him a 2-3 game chance. No one can step in and play right away. Look at Colts and Kerry Collins.
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Yeah, but Kerry Collins being over the hill and not all that great to begin with has as much to do with his struggles as anything.
Favre’s first year in Minnesota he showed up right before the season and went on to have an MVP-caliber year.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
CARSON PALMER = RICH GANNON.
Get it done, Mark and Hue!!!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
True Chris,
but none of the guys we bring in are Brett Favre in Minnesota-types of talents.
So expecting the same outcome is wishful.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Where they are picked is irrelevant. I supposed I should use Jamarcus Russell to compare to Newton because they were both #1 QB’s. Dude, we’re done. You are correct. Your logic is 100% awesome. There you go. I’ll just put you on the ignore button.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Luv,
your post is logical, however, Hue has already called Cincy, thus Hue thinks a talented backup can be better than Boller sometime, say, in the next 5 weeks.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Aig,
NOTHING other than the two QBs being black is comparable between them!
October 16th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
You guys probably don’t know who he is but a guy named Jonathon Crompton is a guy SD dropped last year who had a great senior season at Tenn. He’s a big 6′4 230 with a strong arm who played in a pro style offense at UT.
I always thought he’d be a good backup at least.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Do we have the luxury of giving Boller two or three games to “see how he does out there”?
It would be a luxury to give someone new “two or three games.” Truth is, neither choice is good; we’re stuck with two poor choices.
So, do you want to give up a good player or two or even more draft choices for a “maybe” who might not lose as many games as Boller-led offense?
How many games do you think San Diego is going to lose? How many games do you think we have to play with? I say “None.”
How quickly would you insert this hypothetical newly-acquired qb?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
One is super fast, the other just a strong runner.
One is a great passer, the other isn’t, which is why he lasted til the 3rd.
One read SEC defenses well enough to break records, the other threw more picks than TDs vs Miami, USC, Iowa, and Wisconsin combined.
So remind me again, why you’re comparing them?
Because they’re both 6′3″? Which NFL QB isn’t? (Insert Gradkowski joke here)
October 16th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Alex – So the head coaching change, improved O-line play, improved receiver talent across the board, and DMAC being healthy has nothing to do with it? Right…It’s all Soup’s doing with his masterful check downs.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
I have read that Palmer still has a lot of aches and pains, one of which is in his elbow. Any word on that?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Luv,
assuming Hue gets a new QB this week, I think he inserts them at the earliest in 3 weeks vs Denver if Boller struggles. If Boller doesn’t, then no rush, give it more time to marinate.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
I find
Ill be laughing when Pryor is in there…. running wild… he doesn’t need to win the game… the Guy can run for daylight… he’s had that Playbook since he signed the contract with the Raiders. … if boller is stinking it up next week… an I think he us going to stink it up…. I say put in Pryor. …he’s got to get his feet wet anyway. …why would the Raiders want to resign Campbell if they don’t know what they have I. Pryor…
October 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Raider defense is going to have to keep playing the run tough. This is raider football! I watched DVD closely…outstanding coverage. DHB is killing it in the short game and slants. Hue is smart, using DHB like a legit receiver. The deep ball will come later
October 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Luv , good points i agree with all of it, but Boller is just not the answer no way no how….if i was Hue i bring in Garrard or Palmer , and let Boller play Chiefs – BYE – Broncos…then maybe the new guy or if Boller is lighting it up keep him in…but would like options here….if we bring in nobody and Boller stinks it up ..thats it where done right there with no option…
October 16th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
DMac was healthy last year and had big games early in the season, just like this year.
So who has the improved line-blocking helped the most? JC.
I think JC not melting down, not getting benched, I think this has been the biggest difference in our team this year.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
I wish everyone would just wait ad see what happens for all we know Boller plays way better than anyone expects. Sometimes it’s just about timing and preparedness and opportunity. Whenall those things come together magic can happen who knwos until we play these games and he shows us what he is. After watching the game from home there were some things that i saw that I like a lot his arm is very strong all he neeeds is timing and he’s aggressive so IMO let him play it out.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
VY had an ugly throwing motion. But VY made the probowl in his first year and so will Cam Newton. VY won at Tenn and CJ2K got his 2k yds with VY back there in 2009. VY carried his team in college too. We look for this beautiful throwing motion and strong arm but we never bothered to ask whether the guy carried his team in college or was a playmaker or not. What do Cam, VY, and Pryor all have in common? They are a scrambling QB, non-conventional, carried their teams, ugly throwing motion (did you see Cam did a jump pass for 40 yds to Smith last week?) and just plain playmakers. You can even add Tim Tebow into that list as well.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Marader508,
I’m not suggesting we bring in “nobody.” We have to have somebody because Pryor isn’t ready as a back-up so the question is, do we spring for all the money and/or draft choices that getting a Palmer or a Garrard would take…or do we bring back Trent Edwards?
October 16th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Ghost,
don’t forget Hue gets to see what he has in Pryor Tuesday through Friday every week.
IF Pryor was known as a good decision-maker, the way Andy Dalton was at TCU, then MAAAAAAYBE he could step right in and not be an embarrassment as a pocket QB.
Pryor anytime in the next month would simply look AWFUL. He is no better than what you saw in Boller today.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Crompton is a guy SD dropped last year who had a great senior season at Tenn.
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I was in Tenn during his time there. Ask any vols fan and they will give you a long list of how lousy this dude was. He was highly touted coming out of highschool and turned out to be a complete bust at Tenn due to lack of confidence.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
I wish everyone would just wait ad see what happens for all we know Boller plays way better than anyone expects. Sometimes it’s just about timing and preparedness and opportunity. Whenall those things come together magic can happen who knwos until we play these games and he shows us what he is. After watching the game from home there were some things that i saw that I like a lot his arm is very strong all he neeeds is timing and he’s aggressive so IMO let him play it out.
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Priest – why wait? Alex has made up his mind. 2 quarters were enough for him. Never mind that he hasn’t had any practice time. All we need are his stats since 2007. That tells us everything we need to know. lol.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Bet you anything Grads winds up back here, and there’s gonna be some bitter sweet Grads haters as we win the next 4 games.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Aig
I’m a Vince Young fan.
I respect his career 30-17 record and his ability to not turn the ball over in recent years.
That said, Young is also kinda dumb, and would NOT pick up our playbook in time to make a difference this year.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Priesttj,
you want us to wait and see if “magic” happens? And then, three weeks from now, when the trade deadline is OVER, then we’d try to bring in a better QB?
Wow.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Chris Carter didn’t get it together until his third season. Same thing is happening for DHB. he’s playing with extreme confidence. Expect big things fro
Him the rest of the season.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Boller-
strong arm, bad timing, bad accuracy.
This is what Priesttj saw from his living room today. It’s also what every scout who has EVER watched Boller play has said. So nothing has changed in 8 years.
Good thing Hue knows better than to expect magic.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
boller did nothing today to convince me he is any better than he ever been or was ion the preseason. he sucks. it’s very unusual that qb’s of the caliber of palmer/garrard/favre are available. they all fit the profile of a veteran pro-bowler w/ playoff experience that can come in, learn the playbook in 3 weeks, lead the team to the playoffs, and mentor pryor. let’s face it, the odds of boller improving beyond anything he has ever displayed or pryor exploding w/o any preparation or experience, are very long. but w/ any of the above 3, i can see the offense being fantastic.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
desicions desicions…..Its a crap shoot, but IMO i feel like we lost a #1 QB today.I also feel Boller is in no way a #1 QB, so i pull the trigger and bring in a “hopefully” #1 QB. is it guaranteed to work no, but i think its better than just handing this offense over to career failure at QB.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Try Some,
you don’t really think that 4+ years of NFL statistics are irrelevant, do you?
Just curious.
You talk like 2007 was just last year or something.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
after looking at the career stats, i’ve cooled on orton a bit. but, he is still actually in his prime, whereas favre and palmer have big questions. garrard, the unexciting choice, may yet be the best choice.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
What I see in Boller; his armstrength is bigtime and he’s very mobile. He knows the offense inside and out he knows the rec’s and he’s accurate enough. He just needs to slow down and play within himself. He threw a strike to Chaz down the (R)sideline soemthing JC has struggled with. he seems to go through his reads and processions fine. Instea dof looking for what he doesn’t do well let’s focus on what he does do well. And there’s plenty of that to help us be successful rather crying and whining about it. Lets get behind him and see what happens.
WE know Pryor will eventually be an option but until then who knows from what I see with a game under his belt and a bye week may be all he needs to get his game in gear. So to a certain extent I’m looking forward to it. You might as well because it is what it is……………..period
October 16th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Alex… Haha.. contrare manfrare. … Pryor can run like the devil… he would probably throw 15-18 passes Max and give the chiefs a dose of dmac.. bush n Taiwan. .. not to mention.. all the yards that Pryor would get… no way in hell holler can do what Pryor can… like I said earlier… hue is a risk taker and if holler is stinking it up… put the kid in. . Run some wild cat and misdirection plays and smash kc in the mouth… run over them..
October 16th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Crompton lost to UCLA, at Tennessee. That’s hard to do.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Grads was prone to mistakes that followed his gritty plays. Our running offense is set up to have conservative qb play. I understand the importance of keeping the defense honest, but for all of the talk about Jason’s impressive arm, just how many long strikes did he complete? If Boller throws the occasional long ball, he’ll be doing the same Jason did.
The one throw we need the qb to make is the quick, accurate sideline pass for 6-12 yards. Can Boller make that?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
One is a great passer, the other isn’t, which is why he lasted til the 3rd.
One read SEC defenses well enough to break records,
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Ok I lied. I really wanted to keep the ignore button on but I couldnt resist.
1. Based on your logic, Jamarcus should have been a great passer for us too since he was also the number 1 pick?
2. Reading SEC defenses. Do you even know wtf you’re talking about?
here is Cam Newton’s scouting report. Reading Defenses: Another area of concern. Was only asked to make 1-2 reads at Auburn before having free reign to tuck the ball and run with it. Rarely was challenged with complicated blitz packages as collegiate defenses typically were more worried about protecting against the run. Essentially will be asked to make twice as many reads in half as much time in the NFL.
On top of that, Cam’s playbook consisted of simple numbers. Dont believe me. Just look up his Jon Gruden sessions on the tube.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Speaking of Taiwan…wonder what Hue has in store for us with him?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Ghost,
Pryor would throw 15-18 passes. He would go 6-15 with 3 sacks, 2 INTs, and about 45 yards of checkdown passes.
McFadden would see 8 in the box all week just like he did 2nd half this game.
We would score about the same number of offense-led points as we scored this half (3).
October 16th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
You pick stats to suit your fancy, my friend. Soup would have been terrible with the Rams too, and you know it. Why you picked just 1 year from his time with the Ravens is anyone’s guess. He didn’t have any significant play in 2010 or 2008. So, no it’s not last year, but you’re only taking two years. But you knew that didn’t you? It just sounded good for you to say that 2007 wasn’t last year. Keep picking and choosing, friend. We can all pick and choose stats to suit our argument.
Meanwhile, we’ll hold on to your “sources familiar with the team’s needs” that say we’re going after Palmer.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Favre garrard and all the others are IMO crisis type moves and I don’t see this as a crisis anymore not after watching the game. Is Boller a probowler? hell no!
But Hue kept him for a reason and this is the reason if JC goes down he has a guy he can count on. Will he be right, we’ll find out. But these panic moves aren’t the answer either IMO the last lerson on earth I want to see is FAVRE I’d rather play myself.
I’d prefer to let Boller and Pryor hold the Fort until we know different………..period
October 16th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
I cant understand the logic to just wait and see with boller…..We are 4-2 and have a somewhat easy schedule and a BYE week upcoming.WAIT for what …Wait for Boller to suck go 0-2 putting us at 4-4 , possibly 4 games behind SD and then bring in Garrard and have to wait another 3 weeks at that point to get Garrard on the field??????Really thats horrible logic
October 16th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
My fear is that the wide receivers will regress, particularly DHB. After all, it’s his timing with Jason, the work they put in together even during the lockouts, that must have really helped DHB gain some confidence.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Aig,
would you believe that most NFL QBs also make ONLY 1 to 2 reads before they have to:
a) get rid of the ball
b) tuck and run
c) get sacked
You rarely have enough time to make more than 2 reads on a passing play. That scouting report was written by a schmuck or a team hoping that Cam fell to them.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
The one throw we need the qb to make is the quick, accurate sideline pass for 6-12 yards. Can Boller make that?
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Yes he can and he will. I’m no Boller fan here. Priest can tell you I’ve gone a few Boller hating rounds with him in regards to the re-signing of Boller this offseason. However, I think any nfl qb would look decent to good with us behind our weapons. We have the top back in the league and one of the top rushing game in the league. That should translate to a career year for any QB’s behind our weapons. Heck, we won today with Boller right?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
What I see in Boller; his armstrength is bigtime and he’s very mobile. He knows the offense inside and out he knows the rec’s and he’s accurate enough. He just needs to slow down and play within himself. He threw a strike to Chaz down the (R)sideline soemthing JC has struggled with. he seems to go through his reads and processions fine. Instea dof looking for what he doesn’t do well let’s focus on what he does do well. And there’s plenty of that to help us be successful rather crying and whining about it. Lets get behind him and see what happens.
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Spoken like a true fan. Get behind your players. The boo birds need to go across the bay.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Boller was 3-3 for 45 yards on the last drive.
Give the guy a chance.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
#497 Against the Browns with a lead
October 16th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
You don’t break SEC passing records without being able to read some legit D’s being coached by ex or future NFL coaches.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Alex… like I said… if boller is not playing well… and we’re headed for a sure loss… team is not moving the ball…. I say fcuk that. .. you don’t have anything to lose!! Play Pryor!! .. game vs kc is not going to be easy by a long shot… I’m sorry but I don’t trust boller. .. Pryor in an emergency is OK by me.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Aig. good point. All this talk about Carson Palmer (statue) and giving up Michael Bush is ignorant. If we can bring in Garrard for little $$$, bring him in and fight Boller for the job. It’s that simple. And DHB looked perfectly fine with Boller!
October 16th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
I cant understand the logic to just wait and see with boller…..We are 4-2 and have a somewhat easy schedule and a BYE week upcoming.WAIT for what …Wait for Boller to suck go 0-2 putting us at 4-4 , possibly 4 games behind SD and then bring in Garrard and have to wait another 3 weeks at that point to get Garrard on the field??????Really thats horrible logic
October 16th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Hue already called around.
Those of you wanting to give Boller a chance…have been kicked off the island by Hue.
Good for him.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
priest—yeah boller has a good arm, mobility, etc. that’s why he was a #1 pick. but he has proven over a long career that he sucks. if we were 1-5, then sure, let him play for awhile until pryor got going. but we’re 4-2 w/ a golden opportunity here. we face kc at home, then a bye, then denver at home. then it gets a little tougher. why not make a move for a proven qb? favre/palmer/garrard are all far better than not only boller, but campbell. we have a legit shot at the playoffs. we can’t afford to hope boller will suddenly, at 30, become a good qb. usually, if your qb goes down, there are no qb’s out there worth cra*p. but luckily, there are right now. i suspect we will make a push for palmer, make a call to favre, and if those two don’t work, get garrard. in any case, we will actually be better than we were w/ campbell (who was doing ok, but not great).
October 16th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Hue Jackson looked super comfortable in the press conference knowing Soup was out. He has a plan.
Also, idk what it is.. but this team seems to have something.. some aura.. some swag.. we continue to grow with it too.. idk, but at the end of the day. I think everything will turn out okay.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Marader,
logic is something missing from lots of posts here. Lots of emotional, illogical, fan-blinded posts.
Thanks for your solid reasoning.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
That scouting report was written by a schmuck or a team hoping that Cam fell to them.
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Obviously, you’re beginning to run out of excuses. Here are my sources.
USA today, CBS Sports, and Walter. You’re a stat guy. I’m sure you know how to google.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Remember,
with the play of Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and New England…
we likely have to win the AFC West to get to the playoffs. There is no waiting around time.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Alex.. your posts are some of the dumbest here sometimes.. so check yourself..
October 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
My Logic is based on what i saw on film today and watching a varitable HUGE BUST in Alex Smith play well under greta coaching it does happen and it’s happened here twice before. With Gannon and Plunkett, not comparing boller to those great players but it wouldn’t be the first time a player all of sudden put it together.
You guys say it can’t happen, I say you don’t know……
October 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Mikedlopes Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Hue Jackson looked super comfortable in the press conference knowing Soup was out. He has a plan.
Also, idk what it is.. but this team seems to have something.. some aura.. some swag.. we continue to grow with it too.. idk, but at the end of the day. I think everything will turn out okay.
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Of course it will. Hue’s in control. Hue + DMAC + good blocking = easy time for the QB.
Jason Campbell QB rating vs. Browns = 81.7
Kyle Boller QB rating vs. Browns = 79.5
Ooh, such a big dropoff. The sky is falling. The sky is falling.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Aig,
my point remains. MOST NFL QBS don’t have to make more than 2 reads.
So what that Cam only had 1 to 2? How many times did you see Boller or Campbell look off 1 receiver, look to another, no…he’s covered, look at a 3rd option.
Forget that. Most of the time the QB is sacked or having to throw the ball away or run it by the time the 2nd option is done
October 16th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Ghostraiders Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Alex.. your posts are some of the dumbest here sometimes.. so check yourself..
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I’ve quickly realized that tonight.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I don’t get to make the calls. Am I concerned? Darn better believe I am. I don’t like change, in general, and now we’re forced to go the distance with another QB. It’s going to be an interesting week in Raider Nation!!! I believe in HUE!
October 16th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Try Some,
lol, one random stat? QB rating? Why not put Lechler’s up there while you’re at it?
Boller’s CAREER is a much better sample-size.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Alex,
yeah a 30 year old career failure is going to have an epiphiny and blow it up this year…They say guys like Garrard are free agents for a reason, then defend Boller , who has been a career back up for reason.Hell, we all know KB would be unemployed this year if not for is relationship with Hue.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
it’s a fact. favre, palmer, and garrard are all WAY better than boller. and they are there for the taking. palmer might not be. favre might want to stay gone. but at the very least garrard is right there, easily available. we would be absolutely foolish to ignore them and go w/ boller. timing is everything. with 2 poor teams and a bye, we have no time to “wait and see”. the new qb would have 3 weeks to get ready for denver and then head into the 2nd half w/ hopefully a 6-2 record in tow. boller will likely start next week, although, as hue has proven w/ curry, he might not wait. sign a guy tomorrow, go to work night and day getting him ready, and go beat kc!
otherwise, watch boller go 10-24, with 2 int’s and 112 yards, while they stack the box, and contain dmc, making it possible we lose to the chiefs! wins in the nil are not easy. we must make the move to insure we beat kc and denver.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Goodnight Try Some and Ghost.
Let me recap my “dumb” posts today…
1) Boller has always been below-average, and Hue rightfully wants to find a QB better than that.
2) Cam Newton and Terrell Pryor are worlds apart in pocket-passing ability.
Dang, that’s some stupid ish right there. ?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Carolina Panthers ignored Mike Mayock and ESPN’s Mel Kiper, and even NFL Legend Jerry Rice (who said Newton had “accuracy problems” which was totally incorrect and from a man who should know better),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH8Z6FeX4MY&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL0F60519840F73F58
Here is Mike Mayock’s take on Cam Newton. Anything else Alex?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Favre aint better than ME right now I DON’T wanna see him here under any circumstances.
Garrard way better than JC since when?
It would take Palmer a MONTH to get in shape…………by the time he was ready to paly for us JC would be healthy………….none of those are viable options just wishful thinking. The Jags dumped Garrard for a reaosn if he was sooo gooood why is he unemployed??
October 16th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Rob,
fortunately Hue knows these facts, and already is working on getting a new QB, despite logical facts being treated like leprosy around these parts.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
#522 9 million dollars and Gabbert thats why….tell me would Boller be on any team this year if he wasnt on the Raiders?….no and for a reason!
October 16th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
settle down Priesttj.
He said Garrard is much better than Boller, not JC, and he’s right in every way you can measure it:
wins, playoff appearances, playoff wins, completion %, turnovers, TD to INT ratio, on and on.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Aig,
you ignore the 2 reads part, and for good reason
Again, you don’t break passing efficiency records in the SEC without knowing what you’re doing in the pocket, regardless of what Mayock and Kiper said.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Alex – what did Gannon’s career stats look like before he got to Oakland? Good thing we didn’t bother with him, right?…nevermind
October 16th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
also, the comparison is with Cam and Pryor.
So why don’t you list what Mayock had to say about Pryor?
Oh, because there would BE NO COMPARISON!
October 16th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
poor Try Some.
Gannon had a career winning % when he got to Oakland, along with a positive TD to INT ratio.
But you wouldn’t know that, because you’re lazy
October 16th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
my point remains. MOST NFL QBS don’t have to make more than 2 reads.
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You got to be effin kiddin me. Hell yeah they have to make more than 2 reads. You’re already at least on your 3rd read by the time you get to your check down.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Favre aint better than ME right now I DON’T wanna see him here under any circumstances.
Garrard way better than JC since when?
It would take Palmer a MONTH to get in shape…………by the time he was ready to paly for us JC would be healthy………….none of those are viable options just wishful thinking. The Jags dumped Garrard for a reaosn if he was sooo gooood why is he unemployed??
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favre is a wildcard and frankly, he scares me. but he did have a monster year just 2 years ago (followed by a horrendous year). it would be gambling, but man, would it be exciting. especially when we go play green bay.
garrard is definitely better than jc. career ratings don’t lie. and last year, garrard had over a 90 rating. he’s been to the pro-bowl. he was not cut due to sucking. he was cut due deciding to go w/ gabbert. dude is pretty good. has proven it. he’s only 33.
palmer i’m sure has been working out. he still wants to play.
and sorry, but jc is done for the year. 8 weeks minimum.
i wasn’t against boller coming back. it made sense. he fits the mold of a backup (many career starts, some ability), but over the long haul? it is GREATLY in favor of him playing to his career numbers. he’s not developing. the book is in on this guy.
good Lord, i can’t believe i am agreeing w/ alex/sullivan. maybe i’m wrong.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Raider fans who don’t want to bring in a QB are like the tea party. The party of “no”. No solutions, no answers, no logic, no sense. Just “no”.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
He’s not lazy, Alex. He knows Gannon had good numbers before coming to Oakland. He was just trying to bluff you.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
lol Aig,
the average NFL QB has 3.5 seconds to get rid of the ball. You’re saying they make 3 reads AND hit the check down in 3 seconds.
Wow.
Manning maybe. Most NFL QBs, no. 2 reads, do something.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
yeah Gannon led the Chiefs to the playoffs…Then Grbac came in loss them the game…Boller couldnt lead a horse to water, never mind leading a team to the playoffs
October 16th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Funny guy, Alex. First it’s career QB rating, then it’s QB rating since 2007, then it’s the last 2 years. And now it’s not QB rating anymore, it’s winning percentage and TD-INT ratio.
And Alex Smith just doesn’t count.
Are you bipolar?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Mike Mayock didnt believe in Cam Newton and didnt believe in Pryor either. So next time, know your point if you’re gonna try to use it for a debate.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Favre should be contacted. Garrard isn’t that good, Palmer is out of shape and will cost too much EVEN IF Mike Brown were to agree to trade. Short of that, I’d seriously give Lechler 1st and 2nd team reps during the week, compete him against Boller, and Pryor, and see if he can do it. Tho it would be embarrassing on Boller if the staff were to start Lechler, it’d be cool in a way as it would be typical Raiders to do something different.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Gruden, like most quality O-coordinators, tries to triangulate the different receiving options so that a QB only has to look in one general direction to make his reads (deep, middle, short).
All this “Cam only made 1 to 2 reads in college” talk is silly. No NFL QB has the time to sit there looking all over the field in 3 to 4 directions.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Sullivan44 Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
He’s not lazy, Alex. He knows Gannon had good numbers before coming to Oakland. He was just trying to bluff you.
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Yes, of course. Gannon was absolutely lighting it up. Which explains why the Chiefs let him go and sign with a rival, no less.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
look, i feel it’s a no-brainer to go get a new qb. if hue stands pat and goes w/ boller, i will be puzzled. but i’ll assume he really likes what he has and i’ll hope for the best. and if boller somehow leads us to the playoffs, i will be utterly shocked but it will be one of the most amazing stories since plunkett. oh boy, the scenario is earily similar to that one. does that mean that pryor is marc wislon?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Try Some,
give up already. We already showed you that no matter what time period you choose (career, last 4 years, last 2 years) Boller sucks.
Giving you 3 different snap-shots solidifies our position. It’s called diverse sample-sizes.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
It takes a QB 1 second to check off the WR against Nnamdi’s LOS jam and then go else where. That was proven when discussing Nnamdi’s attributes during this past offseason on BSPN, when they talked about #21’s strength vs Revis who baits you into throwing into him. Even my good friend who is an Eagle hardcore believes that they are using #21 wrong in Philly when playing zone. So in 3.5 seconds, the QB should be able to look at 3 reads. You got anything else?
October 16th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
gasp! Try some! You’re telling us that (no way!) the Chiefs made a mistake letting Gannon go and keeping Elvis Grbac?
Despite Gannon going 10-6 with 17 Tds to 10 INTs in two seasons?
A team made a mistake??? No way!
October 16th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
#540
Gannon lead the Chiefs to the playoffs…he wasnt lighting it up Brees style, but was a solid QB , Boller is a career failure and has never done anything as a starter…Comparing Gannon and Boller is straight blasephemy on your part
October 16th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
lol Aig,
and what if the corner isn’t pressing?
Whoops, gotta wait slightly longer than 1 second.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Logic says that Boller starts next week vs KC regardless if we sign someone else or not. Most likely Campbell goes on IR this week. Edwards knows the playbook already but Garrard would be a better fit overall and could take over as the starter after the bye week if he signs real soon. We won’t get a chance at Palmer until after the season ends. Mike Brown won’t trade him out of spite, but if he sits out the entire season he ends up being a free agent and can sign with anyone and with his personal relationship with Hue, that might be a very real possibility. That would be great for next season. Right now, we have to concentrate on who is available for THIS season and Boller will have to step up for at least 1 or 2 games.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
GG Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Favre should be contacted. Garrard isn’t that good, Palmer is out of shape and will cost too much EVEN IF Mike Brown were to agree to trade. Short of that, I’d seriously give Lechler 1st and 2nd team reps during the week, compete him against Boller, and Pryor, and see if he can do it. Tho it would be embarrassing on Boller if the staff were to start Lechler, it’d be cool in a way as it would be typical Raiders to do something different.
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palmer is out of shape but favre isn’t?
seriously, give lechler a shot? cmon man.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Just watched Schaub vs Steelers.
3 random pass plays. Looks at one side of the field all 3 times. There are usually 2 options to that side.
So have yet to see the crazy 3 reads AND a checkdown stuff you talk about. But maybe one day…
October 16th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Most good QBs, by the time they read WHAT type of defense is being played that snap, knows where the ball is going.
Looking off 2 or 3 different receivers is just Manning-esque and far short of normal.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
#548
Thats funny man….dude is having visions of a George Blanda situation
October 16th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Alex,
In all, here is a good video for you. Texas Tech’s had a very complicated system by Mike Leach. Watch this video at the 7:46 mark and you’ll be educated at how many reads Graham Harrell went through to make a decision in 2 seconds. Consider this a free education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYqsiq0iQC0
October 16th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Ok, that’s a fair call, Rob_raider.
Palmer is the most playoff caliber out there. But if it’s to cost a 1st (which we only have a 1st left next year), let alone if M.Brown is even willing to negotiate. Too costly. Pryor is going to eventually be given a chance next season to be the starter if Campbell didnt get injured today. Campbell is off-contract end of the season too. So, Palmer for 2-3 years for a 1st? Dunno.
Favre is cheap and he’s more accomplished QB. He probably is out of juice, but you never know. Good thing with him is he is very aggressive downfield and is always very quick at picking up a playbook. I’d strongly consider it.
Garrard is ok, but he’s not going to come here as a short-term injury option, unless he refused Miami because they suck and Raiders have a chance at playoffs might convince him.
Favre/Garrard because they’re cheap and short-term before giving Pryor a chance in 2012/2013.
Palmer costing a lot but possibly could be here for 3+ years. But Palmer’s arm and form was pretty bad last season. He’s in decline, not worth a 1st or two 1sts. We need our 1sts.
Pryor, you never know, he could do a Newton, tho look at Newton…he’s throwing a ton of interceptions and isn’t winning.
Definitely, it’s a very interesting conundrum that just occurred to our 4-2 season.
October 16th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Does orton ever win in the 4th?
October 17th, 2011 at 12:00 am
But it’d still be cool to see Lechler given a legit shot during the week, never know, he probably is better than Boller. I’ve seen enough of Boller over the years, he aint gonna take us anywhere. He’s capable, but not good. A huge step back from Campbell, who himself is capable but not long-term solution.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:01 am
yeah–favre is very likely washed up, but……………
and palmer isn’t what he used to be but……………
and gararrd isn’t that great but…………….
they all are pro bowlers w/ playoff experience and for me WAY better options than boller. i guess we’ll know tomorrow.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Aig,
hopefully you’ll agree that most NFL teams don’t run an offense like Texas Tech’s.
And that an NFL pass rush is better than Baylor’s.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:02 am
i will give u this: yes, lechler is probably better than boller.
and that’s why we must make a move.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:06 am
Here is what Wikipedia has to say about Kyle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Boller
I CAN NOT BELIEVE the B.S coming from Raider Fans…some of you are too stupid to post…SO STOP! Pryor is NOT going to be in a game.
Boller DOUBLED Campbell’s numbers in less time then Campbell. HE DID NOT THROW AN INT.
History has a way of repeating it self with the Raiders…and I would remind you so called fans that Plunkett was just a back up that came in when Dan Pastorini broke his leg. He has a slow start but came up big to be the Raiders starting QB. At that time they had Mark Wilson who was supposed to be the next Franchise QB but had no experience. And so look what happened when they did Start Wilson.
MARK MY WORDS BOLLER CAN DO THIS!! HE HAS THE SKILLZ!
October 17th, 2011 at 12:07 am
no you miss the effin point. You said they only have 3.5 seconds so they can’t go through more than 2 reads. I just proved to you that even a college QB can go through 3 mins of reads in 2 seconds. Case closed.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Hue was heard leaving the Oakland Coliseum bumping Young MC’s “Bust a Move.”
Just sayin’
October 17th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Rob_raider,
yeah, all im saying basically is in agreement with you and all the others that we need to address QB, because Boller aint no good. He’s capable, but like a josh mccown. He aint gonna take anyone anywhere. Just someone who could manage a situation in an emergency.
deep down, i’ll be rooting for Lechler and Pryor in training lol.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:10 am
sure Aig. Despite what I’ve seen in these videos I’m watching right now, you win.
QBs make an average of 18 reads (all 11 defenders, their 5 receiving options, and 2 hot dog vendors) before checking down, all within 3.5 seconds.
Night all.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Hue was bumpin “puttin in work” from the original west coast bad boyz.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Smashin up MacArthur
October 17th, 2011 at 12:12 am
RaiderTiv…
Boller will be given a shot im sure. But did you see how many receivers he missed and missed badly? Can’t be rust, because you see many backups able to come in and make good accurate passes. That inaccuracy is something that’s just innate in Boller, why his career has ended up what it has ended up.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Pryor, you never know, he could do a Newton, tho look at Newton…he’s throwing a ton of interceptions and isn’t winning.
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Their D is letting him down big time. 163 points through 6 games. They are the 4th worst team in the league in points allowed.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Favre
Garrard
Josh Johnson (TB)
Palmer for a 2013 2nd-rounder
Orton for 2013 4th.
My wish list. #1 would be incredibly entertaining.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Aig…Newton is much better than Derek Anderson. So yes, if Pryor could kinda match his production, then Pryor is better than Boller to start. Just worrying about the 4-2 playoff picture aspect. If Pryor does well but doesn’t win games, there goes a great opportunity. If Pryor for some wonderful reason immediately become a stud then hell yeah.
Alex7…
Josh Johnson is also another interesting option. Favre would be my #1 choice if he comes over, practices and Hue thinks he’s still got the juice.
Like rob-raider said…it’s all up in the air, we’ll know more tomorrow. One thing is for sure, count on the Raiders staff to analyze and discuss every alternative and option just like we’ve been doing in this thread.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:21 am
RaiderTiv Says:
MARK MY WORDS BOLLER CAN DO THIS!! HE HAS THE SKILLZ!
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It must be getting late.Some people are getting DELIRIOUS! Boller is not the answer people
October 17th, 2011 at 12:22 am
I’ll take Palmer if we don’t have to give away the store. Garrard would also be a good choice. I know Boller didn’t practice with the first team but he was missing way too many open receivers for my taste.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Favre, I think he could do it with our receivers but it depends on which Favre shows up.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:48 am
if u listen to the post game press conference, hue said several times they will do whatever they can to make the team better. he also, said “well kyle’s our qb right now. he’s here. he’s on the team.” not a ringing endorsement. i just think if u read between the lines, he has been on the phone all night trying to get a qb.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:49 am
I agree Rob. Boller is a better runner than JC and go throw a better long ball but I hate to admit it, I was missing JC while Boller was playing.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:51 am
i know some of u guys are supporting boller. if hue sticks w/ him, i’ll be rooting for him too. but my football knowledge knows that boller will hurt us. he’s an okay #2, but w/ a contending team, and the chance to get a legit upgrade at qb, one that can be ready to start very soon, and w/ a good track record, i am feeling excited about the fact that we might improve beyond what jc was giving us.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Raider Nation-Station
NEW!~ 10-17-11: QB or not QB?
With the sudden season ending injury to their starting QB the Davis-less Raiders will have to make a monumental decision. Should they stand pat or seek veteran help?”
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October 17th, 2011 at 12:53 am
i will say this: hue likes boller. maybe he’ll roll w/ him. and if it worked out, it would be great. i just have very serious doubts about boller.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Round and round we go like a merry go-around at the fair, but where we’ll stop nobody seems to know.
Favre is too fat and busy down at the bayou catching and eating crawdaddys and catfish…forget him.
Palmer is ancient history and probably throws like a puzzy nowadays…did in the past…why should anything be different.
Garrard, whose to say…maybe yes…maybe no…but nothing you could bet your azz on.
So, bottom like, like Hue said over and over…next man up and I didn’t bring him in to look at him, I brought him in to play. Therefore, notwithstanding and nevertheless…just play freaking Boller until the ONE (Terrell Pryor) is ready…like in 3 to 5 weeks.
Just like Morpheus knew that Neo was the ONE, Hue knows that Pryor is the ONE.
So, just go and get a “Just, Win Baby” for Al.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Since our D had gone above my required “just play to below average” and actually played well these past two games, an above average QB would really go a long way into making us a good playoff team as opposed to a playoff caliber team.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:56 am
Over and Out guys, I’m going to go watch the Matrix again so I can be sure I know whose the ONE. Then I going to sleep, see you all tomorrow.
Oh, ya, just a reminded, Terrell Pryor is the ONE!
October 17th, 2011 at 12:59 am
re: the knocks on palmer the last couple years, by the likes of ochocinco. if u go by echo’s play this year, maybe it wasn’t palmer, maybe it was echo’s fault.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:07 am
Carson’s “down” year last season:
3,900 yards. 26 TDs. 20 INTs. 62% completions.
Not too shabby.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:09 am
There’s a chance that Pryor could overtake Boller on the depth chart now that he can finally take reps. He was bound to overtake Boller once he knew the playbook. The only worry with Pryor is all the ingenuity and trick plays and things Hue has been able to do on offense, comes from understanding the playbook, calling the plays in the huddle, the verbage, able to direct the receivers at the line of scrimmage who are not in the right place, able to make adjustments and hot reads. This will take Pryor time. He realistically won’t be able to get all this down pat during this week’s training. From now to end of bye week, no doubt Hue and Al will dunk him into the ocean of knowledge and reps and get him as much up to speed as possible, because with Campbell gone, he’s gonna have to now.
Hue will look for a capable vet to run this team between now and whenever Pryor is ready. I just hope they don’t do the Palmer thing because he costs too much, we cant afford to lose our 1st(s), or any players we currently have.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:12 am
Unless Hue somehow manages to negotiate a steal for Palmer from Brown. Like he did with Curry.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:17 am
Ah, yes…..quarterbacks. Every fan’s favorite topic. Most of you just need to STFU as you have no clue what you’re talking about.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:21 am
Hello, Carrie Prejean
October 17th, 2011 at 1:21 am
585-post of the week!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Record of top 8 QBs in the league = 36-11.
I think QB play is kinda important to talk about. Certainly not just something fun for fans.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:27 am
alex7 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 1:26 am
Record of top 8 QBs in the league = 36-11.
I think QB play is kinda important to talk about. Certainly not just something fun for fans.
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Exactly. As we all know by now, QB is the difference between perennial playoffs/SB and not.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:41 am
Leave the talking to folks that can formulate an intelligent opinion. Are you the one that wants Favre because he would be “entertaining”? Dumbest thing I’ve read in a long time.
Some of you idiots wouldn’t know what’s right for this team if Al Davis himself rose out of his grave and smacked you upside the head. All your speculation makes me sick.
October 17th, 2011 at 1:48 am
I didn’t say that about Favre. Plus, that’s what fan boards are for, for fans to talk shop amongst themselves. It’s indicative you need to be informed about this.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:00 am
GG-590 was directed towards aliases,not you.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:06 am
Can’t say I was very disappointed to see Campbell go down. I’m not happy he got injured, but frankly I’m a little relieved that this will FORCE the Raids to address the QB situation.
Replacing Campbell is far from an insurmountable task. He’ll be missed because he’s probably the best QB on the roster at this time – but long term solution ? No way.
We’ll go on without Campbell. The season is not over. We didn’t lose an elite QB or anything remotely close.
The greatest long term danger in this scenario is if the Raids fail to get even mediocre play out of his replacement(s), then Campbell might possibly be viewed as some sort of returning savior next season. That would be a tragic mistake.
It was time to move on from Campbell anyway.
Campbell’s injury means immediate uncertainty and clouds things temporarily – but eventually this cloud will prove to have a Silver & Black lining.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:23 am
18.Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Some of you fans really drive me nuts. I’m at the game and Boller starts getting boos after just a few errant throws. Really? The guy gets thrown in and, of course he’s going to be rusty. Calm the eff down. Some of these fans aren’t very bright.
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I agree. The guy had no pre-game snaps, nothing.
Considering, the guy didn’t do badly.
This week he’ll work with the team instead of Campbell and then he gets to play against KC and Denver.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:25 am
Favre sucks. Did none of you see him play last year? He looked what I would look like if you stuck me out there.
Boller is not the best quarterback in the world, but hopefully he can stick to the same game plan they had for Campbell – Don’t turnover the ball, and throw a few passes a game to keep defenses honest and to keep them from stacking the line to defend against Dmac.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:33 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 2:23 am
18.Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Some of you fans really drive me nuts. I’m at the game and Boller starts getting boos after just a few errant throws. Really? The guy gets thrown in and, of course he’s going to be rusty. Calm the eff down. Some of these fans aren’t very bright.
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I agree. The guy had no pre-game snaps, nothing.
Considering, the guy didn’t do badly.
This week he’ll work with the team instead of Campbell and then he gets to play against KC and Denver.
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uh. pretty sure i’m going by his 8 years in the league. he’s had plenty of snaps/warmups in the past and always sucked. but help is on the way.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:36 am
Texguy Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 2:25 am
Favre sucks. Did none of you see him play last year? He looked what I would look like if you stuck me out there.
Boller is not the best quarterback in the world, but hopefully he can stick to the same game plan they had for Campbell – Don’t turnover the ball, and throw a few passes a game to keep defenses honest and to keep them from stacking the line to defend against Dmac.
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he’s never been able to do this before in 8 years in the league.
i know i sound like sullivan/alex but contrary to them, i’m a raider fan and i have sense and some football IQ. boller is ok as a #2, preferably a #3, but his best case scenario is that he doesn’t kill us. honestly, i’m just hoping like crazy hue gets palmer/favre/garrard/orton.
October 17th, 2011 at 2:53 am
i know i sound like sullivan/alex but contrary to them, i’m a raider fan and i have sense and some football IQ. boller is ok as a #2, preferably a #3, but his best case scenario is that he doesn’t kill us. honestly, i’m just hoping like crazy hue gets palmer/favre/garrard/orton.
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Did I say Boller was great? No, I didn’t.
I said he did well considering no pre-game snaps and the fact that Campbell has been playing with the team. And I agree that booing him right after he entered was dumb-it still is.
I don’t know about Pryor but the best quarterback on the team is probably Lechler.
October 17th, 2011 at 3:03 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 2:23 am
18.Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Some of you fans really drive me nuts. I’m at the game and Boller starts getting boos after just a few errant throws. Really? The guy gets thrown in and, of course he’s going to be rusty. Calm the eff down. Some of these fans aren’t very bright.
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I agree. The guy had no pre-game snaps, nothing.
Considering, the guy didn’t do badly.
This week he’ll work with the team instead of Campbell and then he gets to play against KC and Denver.
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596.rob_raider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 2:33 am
uh. pretty sure i’m going by his 8 years in the league. he’s had plenty of snaps/warmups in the past and always sucked. but help is on the way.
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Did I say Boller was great? No, I didn’t.
I said he did well considering no pre-game snaps and the fact that Campbell has been playing with the team. And I agree that booing him right after he entered was dumb-it still is.
I don’t know about Pryor but the best quarterback on the team is probably Lechler.
October 17th, 2011 at 3:03 am
I’m out and on the train to Paris.
October 17th, 2011 at 3:17 am
Raiders!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 3:29 am
go get kyle orton right now and keep the playoff train rolling
October 17th, 2011 at 3:40 am
Gawd, don’t even concider Favre… Nothing left in his tank and he’s better suited to be a ” hillbilly hand fisherman “… Not to mention the circus that would come with him…don’t need that in Oakland..I could just picture him out on the Mudflats on the bay trying to catch fish with his hands
October 17th, 2011 at 3:58 am
McFadden!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 4:29 am
Code Black!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 4:30 am
So I guess everyone else is sleeping like a baby since the Raiders won, I’m the online one up at this time
October 17th, 2011 at 4:33 am
Rise and shine,,(yawning),,,ok according to some people I’m delusional for saying Terrell Pryor could be starting within a week or so, yet I’ve seen over 100 posts saying to grab Carson Palmer,, David Gerrard,,Kyle Orton,,Vince Young,,etc. Sorry fellas but this aint Madden 12,,you don’t just put them on the team then all of a sudden the team gets rating boost. Don’t even get me started on Brett Favre,,but I’m delusional,lol. If think we’re in spot where we have no choice but to start making the transition at Qb,,we have 2 winnable games at home including a bye. If there’s ever a time to see what Pryor can do, it’s now. It’ll be a little bumpy, but not impossible. Like all rookies he would just be required to manage the offense, which according to most fans is exactly what JC was doing, plus plenty of posters on here wanted “JaJason,,Soup,,Checkdown” outa here anyway so here we are. Pryor was brought in to be the Qb of the future,and the future is now. We’re behind the 8ball so no turning back now. Get ready T. Pryor,,Jason Campbell,, you shoulda slid bruh,,,
October 17th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Try Some Reality Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Still laughing at the notion that we should arbitrarily pick the time since 2007 to focus on Boller’s accomplishments. You guys are beautiful.
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Listen dumbazz, I was going back 5 years because that seems most appropriate, not what some guy was doing 8 years ago.
You want his entire career numbers than?
Fine.
48 TD’s 72 turnovers
Feel better now??
October 17th, 2011 at 4:54 am
Jason Campbell, 18th ranked QB in the NFL.
Last year he was 17th.
Average to below-average.
Boller stinks.
Get a vet in here, and get Pryor A TON of reps in the bye week.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:04 am
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Noticed a bunch of folks ripping Garrard. Jacksonville didn’t cut him because they thought he was weak; it was simply that they wanted to go with the youngster Gabbert rather than pay Garrard 9 million dollars. Garrard would have made them a playoff contender, but the organization made a sacrifice strictly based on money (I know some of you Clipper fans know what thats like). They were instantly ripped by their own fanbase as giving up on the year for other selfish reasons, but they came around because they knew they wanted to see what the rookie had anyhow. And Garrard didn’t want to stay on as a backup, so they let him walk knowing he’d get an opportunity somewhere else. The only knock with him is he wants to be a starter and wants a contract for a couple of years. If we can land him for the remainder of the year though; we should really look into it.
This post is so true, we have nothing to lose, Kyle Boller will not get us to the playoffs, but I do believe that veterans like Gerrard, and yes maybe even Brett Favre can help…they would be better than any other Qb’s that are out there right now…because I even believe that Trent Edwards is better than Boller…Boller is extremeley erractic…and he was that way with the Ravens…they could not win with him, and he cost them a lot of games, despite of his arm strength.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:06 am
Good morning guys, we should bring in Garrard TODAY! The guy has looked great at times in his career, even last year. He has never really had much of a WR corps to throw to so if we can get him in and become a TRUE run first team he could have success with the weapons we have.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:07 am
Garrard’s biggest issue was holding onto the ball too long at times, and throwing the bad turnover.
But a massive upgrade to Boller, that’s for sure.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:09 am
Hey Rick I would like to see what Pryor could do as well but wake up man, the kid has had like 3 practices since joining the team. Maybe after the bye week depending on who we bring in…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:10 am
Boller sucks balls, end of story.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:10 am
Sorry Boller I know you’re a Raider and all but lets face it, you’re a tuurnover machine with bad accuracy.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:12 am
KYLE ORTON!!!! KYLE ORTON!!! KYLE ORTON!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:17 am
Anybody there?
October 17th, 2011 at 5:18 am
This whole injury could have been avoided if someone taught Campbell how to run. Man he looks fish outta water when he tries to scramble!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:19 am
Agreed. Of all QB’s available. Gerrard or favre
Charlie fry or umgh trade for grads!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:19 am
^^*looks like a*
October 17th, 2011 at 5:21 am
Have Boller started any games for us ? Exactly, let’s give him some chance to see what he can do, before we throw him under the bus.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:22 am
The Raiders have weapons…just need someone competent to use them….
And I’d think that at least for next week aginst KC were gonna have Boller under center…beyond that is a question mark…I doubt if that changes no matter who Hue brings in…of course it gives us something to bicker about … And we will….
I still believe were gonna be OK… It wasn’t like Campbell was ripping up the league…Hue will find someone …Now let the bickering begin…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:23 am
If campbell could have kept goin and tried to break tackle instead of going down when the guy touched him that injury would have not happened since the guy would have not gotten his hands around his shoulder cuZ he’s tall
October 17th, 2011 at 5:24 am
Agreed… Campbell cannot run or slide….I believe we already saw ” all that Campbell can be”… Average at best..so no need to panic…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:26 am
But damn how did he fumble that ball when he slid the first time? Lmfao , it would have been a blowout if we had scored on that drive ..
October 17th, 2011 at 5:28 am
In other news, DHB is looking fvcking solid 3 straight weeks! McClain played well, Curry looked good vs. the run Ford is awesome, our special teams kicks ass!
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDEEERRRRSS!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:29 am
Yeah man Campbell is nothing special, I was being patient with him until he does something like that fumble thing, good thing we were playing browns but u know what happened when he made that stupid throw in the end zone against pats
October 17th, 2011 at 5:30 am
Yep, I thought they had that sliding issue fixed after the Titans game last year..guess not…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Yup DHB is coming along really well , did you see that one play where he was so wide open along the sidelines, I think the closest defender was 10 yards away , he really put a nice move on their db , wish we had qb whoo could make those intermediate to long side line throws….
October 17th, 2011 at 5:33 am
rob_raider Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
boller did nothing today to convince me he is any better than he ever been or was ion the preseason. he sucks. it’s very unusual that qb’s of the caliber of palmer/garrard/favre are available. they all fit the profile of a veteran pro-bowler w/ playoff experience that can come in, learn the playbook in 3 weeks, lead the team to the playoffs, and mentor pryor. let’s face it, the odds of boller improving beyond anything he has ever displayed or pryor exploding w/o any preparation or experience, are very long. but w/ any of the above 3, i can see the offense being fantastic.
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October 17th, 2011 at 5:33 am
Pryor is offically eligible to be activated today. Who gets dropped? Could it be Campbell on IR? I broke my collar bone before and it only took about a month to heal and probably 2 months to be fully mobile again.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:34 am
No bickering here
just win baby!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:34 am
# 626…yes… DHB is playing with attitude…. McLain had a good game and Cyrry played better than I’d expect from a guy Just thrown into the fire…were gonna be ok..only thing I can hang on too is stay positive …think the team will too
October 17th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Who is calling the Bengals and trying to orchestrate this trade??? Hue? He did say he brought in Curry.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:38 am
You know what would make an awesome story is Lechler being given the chance to play QB and he absolutely lights it up!! The players do say he has the best arm on the team
October 17th, 2011 at 5:38 am
Can you imagine Gerrard or Favre throwing to our weapons at WR, and having the versatility of the running game that we have? Gerrard or Favre, are the best choices out there, because even Favre in his 40’s is better than Orton or Palmer, because the latter 2 need perfect pass protection…Favre or Gerrard don’t need perfect protection from the OL to make plays…and they both throw good deep balls.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:39 am
Hue just got a whole lot of power….yes, I think it will be Hue making the calls…we’ve got some good coaches for input as well…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:39 am
I hate that stupid look he gives after he makes a boneheaded play , how could you act like nothing happened when you lost the ball without anyone even touching you, he should go back to bench and slam his helmet or something c’mon get pissed off , show some fire sometimes
October 17th, 2011 at 5:40 am
FVCK FAVRE! ball texting muthafugga.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:41 am
638, JC is the John Olerud of football!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:41 am
Guys, Prior said himself he’d have trouble and still only had a very small amount of the playbook (I think he said like 10%) in the interview after the game.
That’s after 5 weeks. 2 more won’t make a huge difference. Really in all honestly Campbell wasn’t doing anything special. We should be able to get that with Boller. He just has to check down all the time,and throw out of bounds on the deep throws. It’s plenty safe and he can do that.
I’ll bet you though that he may have a couple more turnovers but should have better stats unless they change up what they are doing. It’s really tough trying to defend the top RB in the league, plus the trick plays, plus the fast WRs etc.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:42 am
IMO Favre would be a horrible decision…almost anybody else out there would be a option… But not Favre…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:42 am
I agree with you fingers I think this year hue will b making calls from a-z
October 17th, 2011 at 5:43 am
Gerrard, with our weapons, WOW!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Carl Weathers,, I understand what you’re sayn, but if Pryor has only 3 practices then that’s 3 more than the guys that’s being suggested to be signed and take over as the starting Qb. Don’t forget the Colts tried the same thing with Kerry Collins (0-6). At least Pryor has had 2 months to learn the playbook. Those other guys would have to start from ground zero, so I don’t think it would be in our best interest to bring in a outsider and have him just take the keys to the car.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:47 am
No to Favre and no to Garrard , yes to Palmer
October 17th, 2011 at 5:51 am
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October 17th, 2011 at 5:52 am
I THINK PALMER IS BEST CHOICE ALSO,ALREADY LOW ON DRAFT PICKS THOUGH.WHO DO U TRADE ? W.R…
October 17th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Mcfadden20. Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 5:47 am
No to Favre and no to Garrard , yes to Palmer
Palmer needs perfect protection…he rattles easily,and just plain didn’t seem interested in Cinn…is surroundings have to be perfect.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Ostler hints that the Cinncinati QB we might go after is not Palmer. They have a backup QB who knows our system and playbook. Who might that be?
October 17th, 2011 at 5:55 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Ostler hints that the Cinncinati QB we might go after is not Palmer. They have a backup QB who knows our system and playbook. Who might that be?
Well he would be a LOTTTTTT better than Boller…but he is soooo fragile…and lacks arm-Strenght.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:55 am
I remember after the jags released Garrard , all players on that team
Were saying good riddance, said he’ had bad attitude and he always blamed others for his mistakes and never took any responsibilities for what he did wrong.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Rick, Indy is just plain dumb for thinking that Collins was gonna be able to win a few games for them. The guy sucks and he was sitting on his couch since the end of last season.
Garrard and Palmer have been in the league for somewhere near 10 years each. They could be eased into the role and still be able to run an exciting offense.
October 17th, 2011 at 5:58 am
HUE KNOWS BRUUUCE’S GAME.IF HE IS NOT BROUGHT BACK,THAT SAY’S IT ALL.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:00 am
I think Palmer is also like Campbell give him some running game and protect him in passing game he will be fine but like Campbell we can’t depend on him to carry our team we can only hope for him to Just be a game manager an not turn the ball over
October 17th, 2011 at 6:00 am
what ever happens I trust 100% in the org to do whats best for this current team.
I will await what Coach Al Jackson does in light of the tragic injury of Campbell.
What ever is done this team will still win…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:02 am
No to bruce, unless he’s the last option left lol
October 17th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Garrard, veteran who has taken his team to the playoffs before or Gradkowski because he knows the system and has some leadersip skills.
We don’t have to give anything up for Garrard so he makes the most sense, he didn’t really want to play for Miami since they are going nowhere but the Raiders are gonna fight for the playoffs and he could be the man to make it happen.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:04 am
Good Morning Nation!
Kind of a little a=bit of a heartbreak yesterday when JC went down! Boeller just made it worse…had some nice throws, but…
Palmer, Gerard, bringing back Bruce???
Is Pryor bad???
Anyways, I am not Hue Jack…will just have to wait and see!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Lol @ coach Al Jackson , the guy got connections around the league and I believe in him 100%, he will bring In someone who can take us to the playoffs
October 17th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Nice to see our guys on the leader boards.
McFadden is still 1st in rushing 610 yds.
DHB the last 3 weeks is 7th in yards with 296, Calvin Johnson is 1st with 339.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:06 am
I’ll take Favre too, we don’t ask much from Campbell anyway, as long as Brett follows the system and stays away from trying to make plays out of nothing, he could be ok.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:07 am
A.P.: The Oakland Raiders announced the aquisition of Bruce Gradkowski for a 2014 6th rd draft pick and other considerations. This follows the attempt to get Bengal owner Mike Brown to trade Carson Palmer to Oakland. Mike Brown is determined to punish Palmer for his holdout. Bruce is expected to report for practice Tuesday.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Raiders 2011-12 SB champs
October 17th, 2011 at 6:09 am
658.Bob Marley Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Garrard, veteran who has taken his team to the playoffs before or Gradkowski because he knows the system and has some leadersip skills.
We don’t have to give anything up for Garrard so he makes the most sense, he didn’t really want to play for Miami since they are going nowhere but the Raiders are gonna fight for the playoffs and he could be the man to make it happen.
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This is what I was thinking, we’re pretty thin with draft picks to trade for anyone especially since we would have to overpay being between the rock and a hard place.
I’m sure Garrard is telling his agent to contact the Raiders. Any QB would LOVE to have our weapons and O-line is playing very well too.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:09 am
I have no idea whether Favre has any intention of coming back. My guess is, probably not. I also don’t know if his body can answer the bell again.
However, how perfect a fit would he be right now?
Consider …
- We’re a running team and still would be with Favre under center. He wouldn’t have to carry the team. Just make plays when they’re there to be made.
- Great deep ball thrower off of play-action.
- One of the few guys out there on the street or on another roster who you could expect to walk in and be able to pick up the playbook in essentially no time.
- The o-line is playing great and giving the QB good time to make throws. I have faith they could keep Favre healthy, upright and making plays.
- Always felt like Favre should spend at least one season in Silver & Black, didn’t it?
- What better time for him to do so than now, when he’s been written off as so many great Raiders before him. When he’s been cast as the villain as the Raiders eternally are.
- John Madden has reportedly entered the fold as an advisor to Mark Davis and the Raiders. Who is Madden’s favorite player of all-time (excluding the guys he coached)?
- Green Bay looks like the frontrunner to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Of course, no guarantees, but it’s a distinct possibility. I truly believe that the Raiders, with good QB play, could be the team on the other side of that championship game. How perfect would it be for Favre and the Raiders — on the back of Al Davis’ passing — to meet Favre’s former team and superstar understudy, and the team that represented the NFL more than any other back in Al’s AFL days, to collide in what would surely be the most incredible storyline game in the history of football.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, HUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Yah right they made trade over night ?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Coach Davis imparted a lot of wisdom and knowledge to coach Jackson…
Coach Jackson is now an amalgamation between the former
Coach Davis and himself…
so Coach Al Jackson is a fitting description of our currently leader…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Garrard turned down Miami because they wouldnt commit long term to him… neither will we. Palmer will cost too much but if we can get him for a 2013 2nd that becomes a first if we make the playoffs both this year and next I am ok with it. Palmer was pro bowler with Hue, and you guys forget the reasons behind a lot of his struggles. Palmer on this team would absolutely make us better than Campbell.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:12 am
mcfadden20. Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Lol @ coach Al Jackson , the guy got connections around the league and I believe in him 100%, he will bring In someone who can take us to the playoffs
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I have no doubt about this coach, and this team…
We will win, and we will make the playoffs…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:13 am
No please no Favre the guy can’t take hits like he use to, all the painkillers he take before games make him a wild player and e throws picks left and right
October 17th, 2011 at 6:14 am
One thing I know for cerrtain is gardowski will never play for the NATION…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:14 am
I’m out gnite all
October 17th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Chris in Ny, interesting post…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:16 am
LTR Mcfadden20
October 17th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Haven’t read all the comments, so this might have been covered, but here’s the roundup of QB rumors I’ve found:
-Peter King seems to think Orton could be had for a 2013 4th rounder. He says Orton is the type who’s a quick study and could inhale the playbook in time to start against KC. If John Elway is that dumb that he’d help out a division rival in exchange for peanuts, then Hue should do it and not think twice about it.
-Jason Cole has reported that the Raiders have already called the Bengals to inquire about Palmer. however, both King and Mike Silver have said there’s zero chance of that happening. King said flatly that Palmer’s not going anywhere and Silver quoted a Bengals source saying “We’re not trading Carson no matter who calls.”
-Guys, Favre is a pipe dream. By all accounts he’s legitimately retired this time and I doubt he’s in football shape anyway. Haven’t managed to find anything saying the Raiders are even thinking about it or that Favre would accept if they are.
-The conventional wisdom appears to be pointing to signing Garrard. That may be the best of a bad group of options, again, unless Elway is dumb enough to throw us a lifeline.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Carl,, I agree with about Indy, but Palmer and Garrard are both sitting on the couch as well. If we’re gona ease anybody in than it might as well be Pryor. Palmer and Garrard and Favre (lol) would just be taking away valuable snaps from T Pryor. Either way we’re in a tough spot. HueJax is really gona earn his paychecks now.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Question, you guys still want to trade JFORD???
October 17th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Also, was good meeting DMAC yesterday, along with Norco Bob! Dude is really a good guy, and prtty big himself! And thanks B for the clear!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:21 am
Can’t see the Raiders doing anthing but re-signing Charlie Frye.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:22 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Also, was good meeting DMAC yesterday, along with Norco Bob! Dude is really a good guy, and prtty big himself! And thanks B for the clear!
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Whats up? You going to the KC game?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Pryor wont take a snap for us this year in a game. He couldn’t be any less NFL ready if he was sitting with Jameatload sippin’ on sizzurp at a jewelry store.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:23 am
I say ease Pryor in…Boeller is Boeller…never really liked him in Cal! But if Orton can be had for peanuts and we can take him away from Horse Face and beat him…might not be a bad option!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Kyle Orton is our best option. I doubt Denver makes that trade, though.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:24 am
681.Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:22 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Also, was good meeting DMAC yesterday, along with Norco Bob! Dude is really a good guy, and prtty big himself! And thanks B for the clear!
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Whats up? You going to the KC game?
Whats up Thec07? Yes, I will be there!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:24 am
HWNRDR,SORRY I WAS A NO SHOW.GOT 2 B.S.ING / PARTY’N AND LOST TEACK OF TIME..
October 17th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Kyle Orton is our best option. I doubt Denver makes that trade, though
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I agree on both points.
Man, can you imagine if Elway would bail us out? I’d never stop laughing.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:25 am
lost quarterback Jason Campbell for the foreseeable future.
As they move forward against the Kansas City Chiefs next week, it looks as if Kyle Boller, who struggled with his passing at times but did not turn the ball over against Cleveland, will be the Raiders’ quarterback.
Raiders coach Hue Jackson said that starting quarterback Jason Campbell has a fractured right collarbone.
That comes on Campbell’s throwing arm, which makes his recovery more difficult and his return, perhaps, longer in the making.
Jackson said he isn’t sure how long Campbell will be out. However, it’s likely that Campbell will miss most of the rest of the regular season.
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I’m feeling sick to my stomach
October 17th, 2011 at 6:26 am
WHERE IS VINCE EVANS THESE DAY’S …
October 17th, 2011 at 6:26 am
If we’re talking ’bout a trade.What do we have to trade with? We don’t have many picks left.What players can we afford to lose?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:28 am
potential candidates are: Carson Palmer, Trent Edwards, David Garrard, Charlie Frye, Colt Brennan and Vince Young.
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Steve,
As long as we’re not bringing back Jeff George, Andrew Walter, Aaron Brooks, Tui, Culpepper or Jeff Otis … I’m cool with it
Hue Jackson has a history with Joey Harrington & Patrick Ramsey (both former 1st rounders) from his previous OC stints in Atlanta & Washington – don’t shoot the messenger!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:28 am
neilb Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:26 am
If we’re talking ’bout a trade.What do we have to trade with? We don’t have many picks left.What players can we afford to lose?
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The only trade I’ve seen mentioned out there is for Orton and that’d apparently get done for a 2013 pick, so no need to give up a player. The Bengals aren’t trading Palmer and no other QBs appear to be on the block.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Forget Vince Evans.Jimmy Plunkett is already there.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Rockstar…I wa sick to my stomach too when JC went down and it was reported that he broke his collarbone! Boeller coming in after the half…I was like oh crap!
Dirt Lot…no problem bro!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:31 am
LOL, I would love to see them bring back Colt Brennan, but not sure if he will be ready…but wasn’t it said that if anything happens to JC that Edwards will likely come back? What happened there?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:31 am
SI_PeterKing Peter King
by CorkOnTheNFL
I think Oak’s best bet is to deal a 4 in 2013 for Orton, or to just sign Garrard.
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October 17th, 2011 at 6:32 am
JaMarcus, anyone?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Orton has been playing, Garrard has not. Orton would love to stick it to Denver. If Denver is stupid enough to trade him to the Raiders, we could still win the division.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:32 am
JaMarcus, anyone?
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The 250 lb no syrup drinking one?………Nah…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Would Orton come to Oakland knowing that he’s just filling in till Campbell’s fit?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
YEH NEILB,HEARD PLUNKETT WAS WINDMILLING HIS ARM AND MASSAGING HIS SHOULDER UP IN THE BOOTH YESTERDAY..A FAKE PUNT / FIELD-GOEL A WEEK IS ALL WE ASK.PREFERABLE 4 A T.D.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Orton has been playing, Garrard has not. Orton would love to stick it to Denver. If Denver is stupid enough to trade him to the Raiders, we could still win the division.
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Let reverse the role, would we do that for another AFC enemy?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
STUFF THE RUN = WIN THE GAME !!!
Hillis & Hardesty had 17 carries for 49 yards (2.88 ypc) and no TD’s
great work Chuck B
October 17th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Orton has been playing, Garrard has not. Orton would love to stick it to Denver. If Denver is stupid enough to trade him to the Raiders, we could still win the division.
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Absolutely. I’m rooting for this to happen.
Denver fans might surround Broncos HQ if Elway pulls that. Tossing a lifeline to their most hated rival. Come on, John, do it!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:35 am
neilb Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Would Orton come to Oakland knowing that he’s just filling in till Campbell’s fit?
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for the sake of argument, you would want to spin the open competition mantra…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:35 am
JaMarcus, anyone?
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MacDonald’s won’t let him go.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:35 am
neilb Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Would Orton come to Oakland knowing that he’s just filling in till Campbell’s fit?
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If he’s traded, he doesn’t have much of a choice.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:36 am
I think Orton may be better than Campbell.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:37 am
How about we trade or package JFORD as some of the Semi’s were suggesting last week…lol
October 17th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Here is an option no one has mentioned. Matt Flynn, Rodgers back up. He is pretty good, young, and could play for many many years for us. If Green Bay would take a 2013 2nd I say jump on it.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Several Raiders receivers said Sunday they will have confidence in Boller if he is their starter. Ford said he will expect to see Boller as the starting quarterback “until I’m told otherwise.”
October 17th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Matt Flynn’s career numbers: 49 of 84 for 497 yards, 3 TDs, 4 INTs.
Pass
October 17th, 2011 at 6:39 am
I would trade a 2nd for Flynn in a heartbeat.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Dirt-lot….
How old was Blanda when he did his magic?All Jimmy has to do is hand off to Dmac and Bush!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Seems like Denver wouldn’t trade Orton to us, but he isn’t very good (what 7-26 right now?) at winning, and I dont think he is under contract much longer. They wont resign him anyways so why not take a future pick for a guy you will let walk anyways?
I am on record as NOT wanting Orton.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:40 am
welcome back JFORD !!!
the Chiefs gameplan is now the same as ours.
with Kyle Boller at QB?
stuff the run = beat the Raiders
October 17th, 2011 at 6:40 am
THEC,COMPANY LINE POSSABLY.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Guys, just because Matt Schaub worked out for Houston doesn’t mean Flynn will for anyone else.
And if a decent, proven NFL starter like Kyle Orton could be had for a 2013 4th rounder, why on earth would a guy like Flynn cost a 2nd rounder?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am
no love for King Darrius?
#1 WR
October 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Palmer would be ok, but it’s personal between him and Mike Brown, I think Brown would rather stick it to Palmer than help out his team with a draft pick, unless it’s a 1 and I don’t want to give that up.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am
I still think Louis Murphy could be offered up as trade bait too (Murphy for Orton swap… makes a lot of sense, especially if they trade Lloyd or royal)
October 17th, 2011 at 6:42 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:40 am
THEC,COMPANY LINE POSSABLY.
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Could be Bruh…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am
no love for King Darrius?
#1 WR
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He’s shoved all my criticisms down my throat and man does it taste good.
My motto in life (well, one of them) is that once is an accident, twice is a trend and three times is a pattern.
3rd good game in a row for DHB. Yessir
October 17th, 2011 at 6:44 am
I have love for DHB…
To think it was just a few weeks ago that some guys wanted him cut…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Hue Jackson has a history with Joey Harrington & Patrick Ramsey
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So you’re sayin he knows to steer clear of these guys?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:44 am
I am on record as NOT wanting Orton
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Agreed
pass on Orton. I’ll take Garrard or Edwards for free
If we’re gonna trade for somebody, trade for Palmer or Flynn!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:44 am
The KC was going to be a tough out before JC went down… Boller will start against KC, I just hope he doesnt get victory mondsy…He should be taking snaps at this moment…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:44 am
I always said I’d eat crow with gusto if DHB came on and I’m a man of my word.
ANOTHER DELICIOUS HELPING, PLEASE
October 17th, 2011 at 6:46 am
Green Bay has a history of developing QBs and trading them away, and those guys having successful careers (anybody remember a guy named Matt Hasselbeck?)
October 17th, 2011 at 6:46 am
The guy who balled was McClain….He is starting to set a trend, which is good….We need him to make plays…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:47 am
702.Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Orton has been playing, Garrard has not. Orton would love to stick it to Denver. If Denver is stupid enough to trade him to the Raiders, we could still win the division.
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Let reverse the role, would we do that for another AFC enemy?
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AFC West no less, ain’t happening.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:47 am
McCLain has been a diffrent guy since the foot injury…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:47 am
This Flynn talk is going to drive me around the bend.
That’s a move you make in the off-season with a full camp ahead of you. Not in mid-season when you’re a legit playoff threat with a decent QB.
Flynn has 1 career start! Kiss our playoff hopes goodbye if he’s handed the reins in mid-season.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Another cheap back up to be had could be Brady’s back up Hoying. By all accounts that kid is pretty good, and we have always had a good trading relationship with the powers that be in New England
October 17th, 2011 at 6:48 am
I’M WITH ROCKSTAR ON THIS ONE.POST-726
October 17th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:47 am
McCLain has been a diffrent guy since the foot injury…
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Maybe playing through the pain called up some hidden inner animal?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
That 1 career start came against an almost impossible to beat at home New England team, and the kid ALMOST won it.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Everyone is sayn trade, trade, trade,,, do we even have any draft picks left?,, because that’s what a team will probably want in return.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
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AFC West no less, ain’t happening.
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Truth… I would be estatic if i was denver.
the charger fans are elated…they think the Raider season is over…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Bob Marley Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Palmer would be ok, but it’s personal between him and Mike Brown, I think Brown would rather stick it to Palmer than help out his team with a draft pick, unless it’s a 1 and I don’t want to give that up.
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Hue Jackson doesn’t care what YOU want. And it’s his call.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
So how about Curry looking good after one practice?!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Relax dude, i’m spit balling ideas, no reason to get your panties in a bunch, in case you have realized, I have no power in the Raiders org…
October 17th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Maybe playing through the pain called up some hidden inner animal?
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Possibly, wonder if he will have one smack the !@#$ outta him before the game like Hendu use to do???
October 17th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Yeah, I think Orton is better than Campbell. And, obviously Denver doesn’t think much of him as they already tried to trade him earlier…if they think they’re getting the better end of the deal then they might do it.
I actually think Boller can do a similar job to what Campbell was doing. Look at Campbell’s last 2.5 games. Not much to have to live up to.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:51 am
I expected to beat Houston & Cleveland after Al’s passing.
Honestly, I expected to beat them by larger margins too
I didn’t think ST would have to score 14 to beat Cleveland (but I didn’t expect JCamp to go down either)
I didn’t think it would be a Huff INT in the endzone as time expired to beat Houston w/o Andre Johnson
but now that most of the Al Davis “win this one for you Coach” stuff is gone and we’ve lost our starting QB … it’s time to get serious
this game against KC is a ‘MUST WIN’ imo
October 17th, 2011 at 6:51 am
bcz24 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Relax dude, i’m spit balling ideas, no reason to get your panties in a bunch, in case you have realized, I have no power in the Raiders org…
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Panties ain’t in a bunch, just trying to keep eyes on the prize…what QBs out there could get us to the playoffs?
For the record, if they’d want to trade for Flynn in the off-season, I’d be 100% for it.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:51 am
I have faith in Hue…he will either bring in another QB, or make Kyle Boeller a JC clone! Either way, in Hue I trust!
In other words…wasn’t John Madden lighting of the torch in the South East just the right thing! Should anyone but Madden have done that?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Anyone notice that blitzing yesterday? Breshnehan has just been a new man since Hue became his boss.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:52 am
By the way, that was a great route DHB ran, the one where Boller made an awful throw out of bounds, I think it was some sort a slant-go-comeback-corner combination, I don’t really know what they call those, but it was executed perfectly by DHB.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:53 am
What about Troy Smith from SF?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:53 am
I think we are all in agreement that Boller should not be the starter the rest of the season.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Sullivan44 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Anyone notice that blitzing yesterday? Breshnehan has just been a new man since Hue became his boss.
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Loved the aggressiveness. Now if he could only drop the Chucky B prevent defense, we might go places.
He went quarters coverage when the Browns were at the 5 and didn’t tighten it up until they were well into Raiders territory and by then the Browns were into a rhythm. Madness.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I actually think Boller can do a similar job to what Campbell was doing. Look at Campbell’s last 2.5 games. Not much to have to live up to.
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Maverick,
comparing Boller to Campbell is like comparing Bobby Hoying to Rich Gannon!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I think Troy Smith was in the UFL these days..
October 17th, 2011 at 6:55 am
time 4 work – later gents!
October 17th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Marley, wasn’t that a horrible throw? How does an NFL QB miss a guy that wide open a mere 20-25 yards down the field?
October 17th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Ltr RR
October 17th, 2011 at 6:56 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Marley, wasn’t that a horrible throw? How does an NFL QB miss a guy that wide open a mere 20-25 yards down the field?
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Agreed, that’s a throw any NFL QB has to make, I don’t care if you didn’t get a single rep in practice the week before.
Hell, the job of the backup is to be able to come in cold and make those throws.
October 17th, 2011 at 6:59 am
The game against cleveland wouldnt have been close at all had JC not gone down. He only played 2.5 drives. 1 for a TD, second one he fumbled (I don’t understand how its NOT a fumble when Cruz gives himself up, but it IS a fumble when Campbell does it) third series he was driving and got hurt.
I understand Hue coming out throwing with Boller to try to get him in rythm but 20 carries for DMac again? Not enough. Dmac should have had 30 carries yesterday, and maybe 40 with JC goin down.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Carl…
Yes it was, maybe Boller was still a little nervous, I think his best pass is the slant anyway, but I remember Boller back in Baltimore, he would make some of the hardest trows out there and then blow the easy ones.
I think he’d give all of us a heart attack.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Just read this at rotoworld:
With a sack Sunday, Ray Lewis became the first player in NFL history to record 40 sacks and 30 interceptions.
This guy shoulda been a Raider.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:02 am
second one he fumbled (I don’t understand how its NOT a fumble when Cruz gives himself up, but it IS a fumble when Campbell does it) third series he was driving and got hurt.
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This is the mystery of the NFL…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Bob Marley Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Carl…
Yes it was, maybe Boller was still a little nervous, I think his best pass is the slant anyway, but I remember Boller back in Baltimore, he would make some of the hardest trows out there and then blow the easy ones.
I think he’d give all of us a heart attack.
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He’s Billy Joe Hobert all over again!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Just read this at rotoworld:
With a sack Sunday, Ray Lewis became the first player in NFL history to record 40 sacks and 30 interceptions.
This guy shoulda been a Raider.
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Raiders took Ricky Dudley 9th overall that draft. Gag.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:05 am
753.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I actually think Boller can do a similar job to what Campbell was doing. Look at Campbell’s last 2.5 games. Not much to have to live up to.
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Maverick,
comparing Boller to Campbell is like comparing Bobby Hoying to Rich Gannon!
OUCH! That brought back memories of the AFC Championship game in 2001 (2000 season)!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:06 am
764.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Just read this at rotoworld:
With a sack Sunday, Ray Lewis became the first player in NFL history to record 40 sacks and 30 interceptions.
This guy shoulda been a Raider.
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Raiders took Ricky Dudley 9th overall that draft. Gag.
Double OUCH!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
No way the Raider’s pick up Orton’s contract. We don’t get lucky 2 weeks in a row screwing another team. Orton’s owed too much for this year.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
766.hwnrdr Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:06 am
764.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Just read this at rotoworld:
With a sack Sunday, Ray Lewis became the first player in NFL history to record 40 sacks and 30 interceptions.
This guy shoulda been a Raider.
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Raiders took Ricky Dudley 9th overall that draft. Gag.
Double OUCH!
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I new it was a bust but couldn’t remember who.
fuggin rickey goggley eyes bad hands dudley!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Anyway big props to Hue Jackson and “Bones” Fasell for coming up with huge plays on Special Teams with close games 2 weeks in a row.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
I don’t want to bust anyones bubble, I am hoping for the best but I have to keep it real. Boller was a roller coaster ride in Baltimore. He had no game management and he would make throws that you just could not understand. He would make a great throw then throw an interception into double coverage. Maybe he has matured but man I am really skeptical.
Also you have to remember when he was in Baltimore they had a great D that was scoring about 7 points a game themselves in pick offs and fumbles. Not to mention all the stops they made to get second attempts for their offense.
I don’t feel good about this one.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Anyone seen Mistic yet? Wondering if he offed himself!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:09 am
All UFL QB’s are available as their season is Kaput.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:10 am
“I feel bad. I hate that it happened to him, because that was our guy,” Ford said. “It’s just part of the game, something you adjust to. Kyle stepped up. Now we know he’s our quarterback and we have to step up for him.”
You know, if the players got his back, I’ll give him a chance… but man, he better make those throws!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:11 am
A few game observations
1-Boller looked like a golfer who hasn’t golfed in 2 months trying to hit a tucked pin…dude had no confidence and was all over the freakin place. Hoping a weeks worth of reps and 1:1 meetings with Hue helps his accuracy.
2-Bush doesn’t look as good as he did last year..Appears as though he is just running into the L.O.S and falling down..Would love to see Taiwan get some of Bush’s carries to gain some experience, because Like it or not (and I don’t) Bush is gone next year folks..
3. Our defense looked fantastic yesterday. They had Baby Horsey running for his life and dude was as rattled as a box of rocks..Loved it..Were gonna need to do the same thing next week against the Chefs..This is a HUGE game considering its within the division. A must win.
4. Hue is the most ballsy playcaller I have ever seen at the NFL level..I love his style, he can absolutely take us to the promised land, we just need a QB that has the same fortitude as he does. Let the search begin.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Props to DVD as well, he’s coming along.
Good day people.
Get Garrard.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:12 am
769.Bob Marley Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Anyway big props to Hue Jackson and “Bones” Fasell for coming up with huge plays on Special Teams with close games 2 weeks in a row.
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2 perfectly executed fakes.
Hey Cable, did you see those? That’s how you fake a kick ya dope!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:14 am
Yes, I agree…DVD is still maturing into the NFL…had a couple head scratchers yesterday, but made some when it counted!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:14 am
We shouldn’t get too amped up about our D yesterday. Yes they played well but the browns are very limited on offense.
2 more tuneup games for the big boys after the bye.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Bet you we wind up with Gradkowski. And I’d be cool with that. He’s worlds better than any of our backups, and I personally think he’s better than Campbell, too.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:16 am
I will say this about DVD. I think he covers a reciever better than anyone on our team, Routt included. BUT DVD can’t freakin tackle for shiz. He has a promising future if he can get better ball skills and learn to tackle.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Wow, I just looked at the sched for the first time in a few weeks… it looks a lot easier now than it did then! I mean if we had a QB
October 17th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Hue didn’t want Gradkowski for free, you think he is going to spend a draft pick on him? Stick the afternoons sulli, the morning time is for people who actually KNOW football.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:18 am
bcz24 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Hue didn’t want Gradkowski for free, you think he is going to spend a draft pick on him? Stick the afternoons sulli, the morning time is for people who actually KNOW football.
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ROFLMBAO…..
October 17th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:12 am
769.Bob Marley Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Anyway big props to Hue Jackson and “Bones” Fasell for coming up with huge plays on Special Teams with close games 2 weeks in a row.
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2 perfectly executed fakes.
Hey Cable, did you see those? That’s how you fake a kick ya dope!
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Hahahhaha. I almost forgot about that Lechler to Seabass Harlem Globetrotters style play Cable called where Seabass would’ve had to outrun the entire defense to the edge and gain another 10 or so yards to pick up the 1st down.
That was one of the most boneheaded calls I’ve ever seen. Ever.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:19 am
bcz24 <—–Comes with the coffee spitter at 7:17am…lol
October 17th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Grads coming back after Mike Brown is playing hard ball with Palmer…Nah…not a chance!
One thing I liked yesterady too…after Jacoby runs one back yesterday, Groves swoops in and literally kills Joshua Cribs at the 13…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Wonder how the 3 stooges are doing?
You know those guys who we couldn’t win more than 4 games without?
galler
aso
miller
October 17th, 2011 at 7:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:54 am
I actually think Boller can do a similar job to what Campbell was doing. Look at Campbell’s last 2.5 games. Not much to have to live up to.
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Maverick,
comparing Boller to Campbell is like comparing Bobby Hoying to Rich Gannon!
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Not even close my friend. Look at the month of October (last 3 games)
Campbell completing 55.4% of his passes with an average completion of 7.04 yards (pretty small).
3 touchdowns to 3 Interceptions.
I’m not trying to say that Boller is great. Just that he doesn’t have much to live up to. Boller never had more than 12 ints in a season.
It really isn’t that big of a difference.
Come on – comparing Campbell to Gannon?
We still have the playmakers at RB and WR that will make the yards after catch. Our RB still has the most 20+ yard runs in the league. We’ll still score. Won’t be any dramatic drop off (or shouldn’t) in our play overall.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Seabass looked like a pro bowl olineman on that fake as Lechlers personal protector!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:21 am
2 perfectly executed fakes.
Hey Cable, did you see those? That’s how you fake a kick ya dope!
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Hahahhaha. I almost forgot about that Lechler to Seabass Harlem Globetrotters style play Cable called where Seabass would’ve had to outrun the entire defense to the edge and gain another 10 or so yards to pick up the 1st down.
That was one of the most boneheaded calls I’ve ever seen. Ever.
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hahahahahahahahaha….WOW
October 17th, 2011 at 7:22 am
As a fan I am confident Hue will get it done…but as realist, I am affraid of what’s to come with JC down! The players are believing in Kyle, I’d have to also, but…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Coach Al Jackson is throwing out all theses gadgets makes it tough on an opposing team…you have to scheme, gameplan, and pratice a lot of facets….
October 17th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I think Grads would be one of the best pickups we could make. Don’t know if Cincinnati wants to unload its backup QB for a mid/late round pick at this point though.
Grads wasn’t sent packing for performance issues. It was because they wanted Campbell to be the guy and didn’t want Grads’ presence and fan-favorite status to distract JC and have him looking over his shoulder.
Now that Campbell is gone, getting Grads back is one of the most sensible moves the Raiders could make.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:23 am
swoops in and literally kills Joshua Cribs at the 13…
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he literally (figuratively) killed him. LOL. I was just thinking of Vince Vaughn in Old School… I will literally give you the keys to the store! Hahaha
October 17th, 2011 at 7:24 am
789.bcz24 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Seabass looked like a pro bowl olineman on that fake as Lechlers personal protector!
That was very noticeable! Loved it!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Lol…Bcz24…you’re right, figuritively…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Schefter just tweeted that Raiders reached out to David Garrard…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:30 am
787.Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Wonder how the 3 stooges are doing?
You know those guys who we couldn’t win more than 4 games without?
galler
aso
miller
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Good post, these guys are a distant memory.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Here is the fake FG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN2d-UF8kHo
October 17th, 2011 at 7:33 am
After the fake shumar could have murdered someone…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Another reason for letting Grads go (besides Campbell confidence) was he made $1.8 mil last year aand we could get Boller for less. He signed a 2 yr deal with the Bengals.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:34 am
I want one of those AL t-shirts, but I cant find’em : (
October 17th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Lechler <—–BadA$$…..
October 17th, 2011 at 7:35 am
If the Raiders sign Favre, then we know Madden is in charge.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:33 am
After the fake shumar could have murdered someone…
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I actually think he did =)
October 17th, 2011 at 7:36 am
802.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:34 am
I want one of those AL t-shirts, but I cant find’em : (
The staff had good one’s yesterday! one fan offered $50 for them…There were guys walking around selling a variety of Al shirts in the lot! I got one, but I have seen others that were also cool!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:37 am
if Favre is signed, good bye season…
October 17th, 2011 at 7:38 am
This is going to be a ig 36 hours in the story of our season…I still think garrard is the best choice.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:38 am
I actually think he did =)
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coach or player?
October 17th, 2011 at 7:38 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:35 am
If the Raiders sign Favre, then we know Madden is in charge.
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Favre has the most career TD passes, and the most career interceptions.
Favre Giveth and Favre Taketh Away.
I say no. Besides turning Oakland into a media circus every week, I don’t see Favre as bringing us what we are looking for, which is a Lombardi Trophy.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:40 am
HWNRDR,COULD NOT FIND ONE OF THOSE SHIRTS WITH ENOUGH X’S ON IT.NICE LOOKING SHIRTS.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:40 am
ok. Seebass didnt throw a block but he was ready. Awesome! Bad decision not to kick field goal. stooopid. Jackson brilliant rest of game. Boller will get better w some snaps. He better. You know Jackson’s out looking rt now!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:43 am
The Raiders have reached out to free agent QB David Garrard, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
Schefter notes that it doesn’t mean the Raiders will sign Garrard, “but it does confirm there is some level of interest.” Garrard is 33, has a balky back and has been out of football for six weeks. Still, he’s certainly a better option than Trent Edwards and a Carson Palmer trade remains highly unlikely. The Raiders are unlikely to roll with Kyle Boller the rest of the way.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
October 17th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Why is everybody so high on Michael Bush?? I don’t get it. It annoys me how Hugh will take out DMC when we get to the goal line, and put in Bush. DMC hits the hold much faster than Bush. Bush reminds me of Lamont “Boogie” Jordan. He’s slow, and it always seems like the play called for him takes to long to develop. DMC got us down there, give the ball to him and let him score the TD!
One of my favorite Raiders…JUSTIN FARGAS. RUN DMC and Fargas would have been an awesome tandem. Fargas was a violent runner and hit the hole hard! Say what you want, but Fargas is/was better than Bush.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:45 am
811.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:40 am
HWNRDR,COULD NOT FIND ONE OF THOSE SHIRTS WITH ENOUGH X’S ON IT.NICE LOOKING SHIRTS.
I was trying to find the one with the Shield with AL in them, but couldn’t find them. I settled for the one that had the reaper over the tombstone that read RIP Al Davis!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Weaselbit, I agree that he shoulda kicked to go up 17, bad decision but I’m sure he’ll not make that mistake again.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Yup, that pretty much would have iced it!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Rewatching the 2nd half.
Boeller had a really nice opening drive that was derailed by the Satele penalty.
Boeller put a deep sideline ball on Schillens for a long gain. It was called back and we were faced with a 2nd and 25 and ended up punting.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am
riderm Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Why is everybody so high on Michael Bush?? I don’t get it. It annoys me how Hugh will take out DMC when we get to the goal line, and put in Bush. DMC hits the hold much faster than Bush. Bush reminds me of Lamont “Boogie” Jordan. He’s slow, and it always seems like the play called for him takes to long to develop. DMC got us down there, give the ball to him and let him score the TD!
One of my favorite Raiders…JUSTIN FARGAS. RUN DMC and Fargas would have been an awesome tandem. Fargas was a violent runner and hit the hole hard! Say what you want, but Fargas is/was better than Bush.
Weasel: I agree. Could Bush hit that hole any slower??!! Totally like Lamont Jordan. Like a sleepwalker.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:48 am
2nd drive, 1st play Tonga drops the ball.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:48 am
It was still a stupid call. You kick that field goal and put the team up by 3 scores. almost came back and bit us.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:51 am
821.weaselbit Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:48 am
It was still a stupid call. You kick that field goal and put the team up by 3 scores. almost came back and bit us.
yup, but good thing is, besides the obvious is that Hue has mentioned that, and I hope he learned from it! A good team would have made us pay for that!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:51 am
LOL at the bad throw to DHB. What a route run by DHB.
Ball was fluttering as soon as it left Boeller’s hand.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:51 am
That was a good lessons Learned for Coach Al Jackson…
Good thing is it did not cost us anything….
October 17th, 2011 at 7:52 am
The way McNabb refused to be traded to Oakland and chose Washington instead, a couple years ago, which caused instead Jason Campbell to come from Washington, if I were a Raiders staffer I would turn my back on him — not to mention his declining skills.
Too early to thrust Pryor into the starting line-up, with 10% knowledge of playbook, no chemistry yet with receivers, plus it would severely limit Hue Jackson’s play-calling, having to go vanilla again. Pryor is someone who could be a long-term answer.
With the 4-2 season currently, and a legitimate shot at playoffs there, we’ll need a pro-bowl type of vet QB. Boller isn’t good enough to take a team to the playoffs etc.
As unrealistic and contrary to what I said above, it’d be kinda cool to see Lechler doing a Blanda, punting and starting QB, an “only the raiders” thing, old-school style. He’s probably better than Boller.
There’ll be ideas like Favre, Garrard, Orton, etc.
Above all, it’s a very interesting conundrum to land on Hue’s lap, given Pryor’s activation, Campbell gone and off-contract next year, Boller being Boller, Palmer being off-limits and Raiders short on draft picks and needing to hold onto next year’s first rounder.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:52 am
4th Victory Monday in 6 weeks feels good.
Kind of a bittersweet feeling though after the game, honestly. Not as naturally high off a W as usual. Left a weak Cleveland team hanging around when we shoulda won by 21 and obviously, the starting QB injured.
Losing Campbell is a big blow. Fortunately, Hue wouldn’t let his backup QB kill him and he called a FANTASTIC game, the only glaring exception the 4th down with about 2 minutes and change on the clock, up by 14.
I get the idea, he’s going for the juggular (sp?), but that was not so calculated.
So who is The Guy for the rest of the season?
A. Boller
B. Pryor
C. Free Agent
D. Trade
October 17th, 2011 at 7:52 am
J,
DHB shoulda had 100 3 weeks in a row.
He has arrived.
Thanks, Al.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Well, there was one bad throw on that 2nd drive, but we did score.
Good playcalling.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Carson Palmer is 31 years old, and has a CAREER
QB rating of 86.9%
completion percentage of 62.9%
154 TD’s vs 100 INT’s
and a former Pro Bowler
This is the guy we need if Hue can get him.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Btw, it’s great that Hue is ballsy, but not taking the easy 3 for a 17 pt lead was a MASSIVE BLUNDER. It almost cost us the game. Hopefully he tightens up his “living on the edge” a little. Certain situations call for the high-percentage decision.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Very, very unfortunate for Jason.
He’s likely done for the year and probably won’t be resigned.
Funny how one play can forever change (or end) a guy’s career in the NFL and the course of a team.
Hopefully, this makes us better somehow.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Never a doubt in my mind that a guy who worked as hard as DHB did would be a contributor.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Hue!!!!!
A reverse to Ausberry??????
LMFAO!
Throw that in the trash.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Here are our options:
1) Trade for Palmer. What will Cincy want? How rusty is Palmer? How fast can he learn Hue’s system? Is his whiny crybaby act going to wreck the awesome team chemistry that Hue’s built?
2) Sign Garrard. How fast can he learn Hue’s system? Why did Jacksonville cut him, and and why has nobody else signed him? What’s the big downside that nobody seems willing to discuss pubicly?
3) Sign Trent Edwards. He knows the system (being with the Raiders in preseason), but Hue was annoyed enough with Captain Checkdown to cut him once already.
4) Sign Charlie Frye. He knows Hue’s system, and preparation will not be a problem, but calling his arm “scattershot” is being kind.
5) Starting giving Pryor TONS of reps, and plan to go to him if Boller stumbles/gets hurt. Ugh. I like Pryor, but he’s a developemental project. Anytime this season (except for the odd Wildcat package) would be WAY too soon.
6) This one is the wild card. Dispatch current unofficial consultant Ron Wolf down to Hattiesburg, Mississippi. You know where I’m going with this, and yes, Oakland might be that desperate.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
boller satele/Wiz and Wr’s should not be getting victory monday…
they should be getting reps in….
October 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Okay, I hate giving away draft picks, especially first rounders, but if it takes a 1st round draft pick to get Carson Palmer out of Bungholeland then we should do it. Palmer is 31 years old. He would be our QB for 5 years. I think that is a safe return on a 1st round pick. But we might be battling the Bungholes for a playoff spot, so they may not want to trade with us simply based on that fact, but that doesn’t sound like Mike Brown….he doesn’t really care about anything but money, so it shouldn’t be a big problem! But if Mike Brown is so stupid that he wouldn’t take a 1st round pick then….
Sign Garrard to a 2 year deal if he needs security. Even if we don’t want him as our starter next year he would still be a decent backup QB, and Campbell is not under contract for 2012 anyhow, and we probably were not brining him back BEFORE he became damaged goods. If we can’t get that deal done, then….
Offer the Broncos a 4th rounder for Orton. I have no idea how we would fit his $8 million dollar deal under the salary cap, but I will let Jackson worry about that. Would Denver help us out? Probably, since they know their season is over anyhow. And they know Orton is a very limited QB. If we can’t get Orton, then….
Call Brett Favre. Might blow up in our faces, or it might be a thing of beauty. I don’t like the guy, but at this point what is there to lose? Farve at 65 would still be a better QB than Boller. If Farve isn’t interested then….
Bring back Garbagekowski. Boller is horrible, Garbageman is better than horrible…..not great, but better than Boller for sure.
The season is on the line. Anyone who wants to stick with Boller or go with Pryor is simply asking for our season to come to an abrupt end. Boller has proven to be a bad QB, and Pryor didn’t even look like he could make a warm-up pass in that one preseason game.
We have a chance to bring this franchise back to relevance this season, but only if we win our division or get the wildcard. If we can manage that, then we will look much more attractive to decent players, and player agents of decent players.
A new QB, with our Bye week coming up, could be up to speed on our offense by the time we play Denver. The timing of Campbell’s injury (only a week prior to the bye week and right before the trading deadline) at least gives us some options. Make the move NOW!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Orton is a bad move. WHy help Denver out with their cap and Ortons sallary. It is a sucker play. Don’t fall for it Hue!
October 17th, 2011 at 7:57 am
3rd drive was not a good one.
Reverse to a 3rd string TE
A scramble and throw away by Boeller
Barnes gets beat and the DE knocks the ball outta Boellers hands for a fumble.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:57 am
ArmChair GM Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Carson Palmer is 31 years old, and has a CAREER
QB rating of 86.9%
completion percentage of 62.9%
154 TD’s vs 100 INT’s
and a former Pro Bowler
This is the guy we need if Hue can get him.
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I want him, but I dont think it will happen, Colts tried to get him earlier this season an he still sits in cincy
October 17th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Its the Boller Pryor show. Not worth giving up more draft picks for palmer and a vet off the street won’t do much better.
Good thing raiders playing good defense and and stopping run.
October 17th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Uggh…Schefter just tweeted that we reached out to josh McCown…seriously?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Any chance we package up Murphy and 2013 3rd rd draft pick for Palmer?
-Bengals get Murphy to compliment A.J Green
-We get Palmer who’s familiar with Hue Jackson
-Pryor learns under Palmer
I wouldnt mind this scenario if it played out.
Any thoughts?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am
And now Jerry just did the same, followed by “The Nation will love this…”
October 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am
2) Sign Garrard. How fast can he learn Hue’s system? Why did Jacksonville cut him, and and why has nobody else signed him? What’s the big downside that nobody seems willing to discuss pubicly?
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Jacksonville cut him partly for reasons of salary, but also partly because he looked craptastic and out of shape in camp/pre-season. Also, Garrad apparently has a bad back.
I’d almost (almost) rather call up Favre.
I’d give a 2013 2nd rounder for Palmer. If Brown wants more than that, then no dice.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Josh McCown?! Did Lane Kiffin knock out Hue and start making calls on his behalf?!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:02 am
730.Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:46 am
The guy who balled was McClain….He is starting to set a trend, which is good….We need him to make plays…
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That’s good to hear from you. You have been all over McClain, and to hear one of his biggest critics say “he balled” is good to hear.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Whatever the decision is at QB, it would be a horrible move to put an unprepared Pryor in at QB. He missed training camp and 6 weeks of preparation. Heck, Hue did not even dress him for AD’s tribute game.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Seriously, McCown? Cripes, roll with Boller.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:04 am
djohnnyg Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:02 am
730.Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:46 am
The guy who balled was McClain….He is starting to set a trend, which is good….We need him to make plays…
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That’s good to hear from you. You have been all over McClain, and to hear one of his biggest critics say “he balled” is good to hear.
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Go back and check my track record…I got off bashing McClain after the Houston Game…He flat out manned up after that, and actually earned my respect…I have had nothing but praise and hope since then….
October 17th, 2011 at 8:04 am
A QB off the street?????
Really???????
Won’t know our playbook
Won’t have any timing with our receivers
And you’d expect us to have a shot a winning the division?????
NOT going to happen.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:04 am
GG…. I was fcuking pissed when he didn’t kick the field to go up by three scores… that was really stupid… why wouldn’t he ice the game when given the chance… I knew they were going to score.. and I had a bad feeling the brown’s would record er the insides kick..which they did!! I’m just glad they won…. but it was a dumb move…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Here are our options:
1) Trade for Palmer. What will Cincy want? How rusty is Palmer? How fast can he learn Hue’s system? Is his whiny crybaby act going to wreck the awesome team chemistry that Hue’s built?
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Not sure where you are getting the crybaby act stuff. Palmer has stood around watching the Bungholes make little to no effort to win with him for almost 10 years, and the entire time he had a bunch of actual criminals as teammates and a HC who just took the money and folded when he was going to hold out and make Mike Brown give them the things that every other professional football team had. The guy understood that Mike Brown has no interest in winning, and he wants out. Sounds smart to me.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Any time/money wasted on Josh McCown, Trent Edwards, Brady Quinn, JP Losman, etc etc, would be a waste of time and money and derail the season, and just the same as rolling with Kyle Boller.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Its going to be interesting to see what we do…
Its a tough call either way however, i trust the org.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Onsides kick*
October 17th, 2011 at 8:07 am
To me, it’s gotta be Orton, Garrard, or Palmer if they want a new starter.
Signing anyone else like Edwards or McCown would just be depth and a signal they’re going with Boller.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:08 am
ghostraiders Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:04 am
GG…. I was fcuking pissed when he didn’t kick the field to go up by three scores… that was really stupid… why wouldn’t he ice the game when given the chance… I knew they were going to score.. and I had a bad feeling the brown’s would record er the insides kick..which they did!! I’m just glad they won…. but it was a dumb move…
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Yep, i had that sinking feeling. Especially when Chuck B went to a safe D and let the Browns march upfield, McCoy 9/9 and a TD, is what you get when you go from silly offensive aggressiveness to soft defensive D thinking. When Chuck B finally brought the aggressive D back on the drive after the onside kick, they went 4 and out.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:08 am
—”The Raiders have reached out to free agent QB Josh McCown, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter”—
Hahahhaha, now you all can see for a 2nd time that he was the one to role with, at least over culpepper =)
October 17th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Josh McCown, funny. I live in Charlotte, as does Josh. Lives in my area. I see him from time to time and always chat with him. Very nice guy. We would have won more games with him than Jamarcus. Thought back then, we should have given him more time. He was with the Niners in preseason, then was in that other league. Not sure where he’s at now. Probably here in Charlotte waiting for a call.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Louis Murphy’s arms must have been shortened by the viagra. trade the guy.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Our best shot at the playoffs is Boeller.
Moreso than that, it’s Hue and Saunders playcalling and our defense that IS going to get it done.
I trust that Hue and Saunders will figure out what Boeller does best and use him the same way he used Glo. As a game manager who gets the ball to the WRs on shorter routes and takes the occasional deep shot.
Boeller will be fine as long as he doesn’t turn the ball over.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am
The press is trying to force the Raiders to make a move and panic as the deadline is tomorrow. Hue will not rush his decision just as AD would not. This is a time to find out how much Jackson really learned from AD.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Trade for Orton, sign Garrard, see if you can smooth talk Palmer away from Mike Brown for a reasonable price, try and lure Favre out of retirement or send a 2013 7th rounder to Cincy for Gradkowski.
Anything else is pretty much chucking in the towel on the season because it’ll mean Kyle Boller: starting QB.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Thec,
It’s all good. I’m not blasting you for it. I’ve been on him myself. I expected alot more from him since we drafted him; thought our MLB problems were solved. If you’ve been watching him close, than it’s good to hear he’s coming along.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:11 am
I like how some in the media claim trading for Orton doesn’t make sense because Orton doesn’t fit in a vertical offense. I have a feeling that if you looked at ever pass that Campbell and Orton threw more than 25 yards in the air, Orton’s numbers would be much much better than Campbell’s lol.
Campbell is one of the worst strong armed deep ball throwers I have ever seen.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am
We need a veteran 3rd string QB.
Nothing wrong with McCown or any of those other scrubs.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Al Saunders offense is vertical, why we’re seeing far more shots taken downfield this season. McCown can’t throw those lasers to comebacks or deep post/flag routes.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am
If the Raiders sign McCown they might as well just start Pryor instead.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Jhill..
god dammit, its BOLLER!! its not like he is german!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Kyle Orton got beat our by Tim frickin Tebow.
He’ll come here and get beat out by Pryor.
No thanks!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Lol, Jhill wants to tank the season and go with Boller? What is wrong with you Jhill? Come on man!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
GG Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Al Saunders offense is vertical, why we’re seeing far more shots taken downfield this season. McCown can’t throw those lasers to comebacks or deep post/flag routes.
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neither can Campbell, Boller or Pryor for that matter…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Boller as starting QB means endless 8 man fronts which will stifle DMac and force Boller to try and win the game with his arm which he can’t do because he’s fking terrible.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am
AD’s philosophy, throw 1 deep per quarter to stretch the field. Can’t do that with Orton. Field compacts and rushing game suffers.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I believe the Cable love fest has left the building.
“I love it,” Lechler said. “This is a very, very aggressive staff. Hue is an aggressive play caller. Some of the chances we take on special teams, a few weeks in a row, it’s fun to play for him. You feel like you always have a chance.”
October 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:11 am
I like how some in the media claim trading for Orton doesn’t make sense because Orton doesn’t fit in a vertical offense. I have a feeling that if you looked at ever pass that Campbell and Orton threw more than 25 yards in the air, Orton’s numbers would be much much better than Campbell’s lol.
Campbell is one of the worst strong armed deep ball throwers I have ever seen.
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Orton is Leagues over Campbell, furthermore, he has the guts, he dostn freeze as Campbell does in the redzone..
October 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am
How about the drive Bowler led where we were all screaming for Hue to kick the FG to put us up 17?
A lot of nice throws to DHB.
Got us out of a 1st and 20.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:17 am
If we sign McCown it’s to back up Boller. OUCH!!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:17 am
If Garrard has been keeping himself in shape and his back is ok, than he’s a Raider…and now the obligatory….PERIOD!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
neither can Campbell, Boller or Pryor for that matter…
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Lechler can. If Hue wants to live on the edge, go all the way, baby!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
djohnnyg Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Thec,
It’s all good. I’m not blasting you for it. I’ve been on him myself. I expected alot more from him since we drafted him; thought our MLB problems were solved. If you’ve been watching him close, than it’s good to hear he’s coming along.
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Yeah I wasnt taking it like that. I was just saying that I actually saw some improvement…
You are right I unloaded on him a couple of weeks ago and felt that It was justified…Just a bunch of my opinions stringed togather…
you are correct and thinking our MLB issues should have been solved…He has come along slow…he is starting to take shape….this is good as we need him to play well ALL the time…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am
How about the drive Bowler led where we were all screaming for Hue to kick the FG to put us up 17?
A lot of nice throws to DHB.
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Including the one where he missed a wide open DHB by about 8 miles, yes?
Come on, JHill. You’re doing this just to be contrarian. You have to be.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am
AD’s philosophy, throw 1 deep per quarter to stretch the field. Can’t do that with Orton. Field compacts and rushing game suffers.
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of course you can, they did that many times last season, their WR had most yds in the league. Orton threw the deep ball several times when they had Josh McDaniels…
let me remind you with Campbell we had maybe ONE deep ball everyother game, and they were always 3yds too deep..
so you argument doesnt hold water…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Boller as starting QB means endless 8 man fronts which will stifle DMac and force Boller to try and win the game with his arm which he can’t do because he’s fking terrible.
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And what was the difference when they did that to Campbell? Let them stack the box the last two games they won the opponents did that and held Dmac under 100yds. This team is not one dimensional. Get it to the receivers on quick outs, slants and screens and watch them go. We don’t need Brady back there.
Go ahead, let them stack the box because that’s what trams have been doing and we still win.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Fk it, send Madden with a bag of cash to Hattiesburg.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:19 am
873.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Boller as starting QB means endless 8 man fronts which will stifle DMac and force Boller to try and win the game with his arm which he can’t do because he’s fking terrible.
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Yep. Agree 100%. Might as well bench McFadden and let Bush waste his body against the 8 man fronts the rest of the year.
874.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am
AD’s philosophy, throw 1 deep per quarter to stretch the field. Can’t do that with Orton. Field compacts and rushing game suffers.
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Orton can throw one deep and out of bounds once a quarter just like Campbell, to stretch the field lol. But then he can make a 10-20 yard pass to a WR, which Boller can’t do. Going with Boller is forfeiting the season.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:19 am
And what was the difference when they did that to Campbell? Let them stack the box the last two games they won the opponents did that and held Dmac under 100yds
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DMac was running well until Campbell went down, if you didn’t notice.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Trams= teams. We don’t play against transit systems. Damn phone.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 am
DMac was running well until Campbell went down, if you didn’t notice.
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Did you also notice that Hue wasn’t using him as much? Which I also think is a mistake, he needs to get his touches no matter how well he is running the ball.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Did you also notice that Hue wasn’t using him as much? Which I also think is a mistake, he needs to get his touches no matter how well he is running the ball.
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Won’t disagree about that. 20 rushes and a pass or two per game to DMac is criminally underutilizing one of the two or three best backs in the game.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Dakota,
Maybe we have changed hats and I’m now the realist that you were.
Are you really telling me you believe a guy off the street how hasn’t played or practiced a down of football is going to come in here MID SEASON and get us to the playoffs?????
Campbell was not good to me AT ALL. That tells me this offense and coaching staff is good enough to win in spite of who’s playing QB.
I’m sitting here rewatching the 2nd half and I see a guy who got zero reps the past 2 weeks making nice throws to DHB and marching us up the field.
The only times we haven’t gone up and down the field is when we’ve had stupid penalties or run reverses to 3rd string TEs.
A guy off the street is going to come here and take about a qtr before all you guys start screaming about how he sucks and we need to go with Pryor, lol.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am
OAKLAND this weekend:
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October 17th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Boller is a guy off the streets
October 17th, 2011 at 8:24 am
J HILL,
Thats what Boller does, turn it over…even in Baltimore , he was known for erratic play resulting in TO’s….But Hue and Al are just gonna turn him around and make something out of him right?Did you watch the preseason?Thinking Boller gives us our best chance to make playoffs, is just silly and deeply flawed.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am
David Garrard is the only QB you go after….Palmer is not a good qb, Orton? Shut up and no he is not better than JC, that is just stupid to say
You get Garrard and the JC injury wont be so rough….Boller isnt that good but prolly starting vs KC
October 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Raiders have reached out to Josh McCown. Uggh!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
The only ones that would keep us aiming for playoffs are…Favre, Palmer, Orton, Garrard. Each one comes with risks and uncertainties, injuries, draft pick or financial cost.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Pryor? LOL thats a real joke
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Including the one where he missed a wide open DHB by about 8 miles, yes?
Come on, JHill. You’re doing this just to be contrarian. You have to be.
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That bad pass was on a previous drive, and I already noted that.
I guess I am being contrarian. I don’t believe any of these “guys off the street” will be better than Boeller. That doesn’t mean I think Bowleler is this great QB or anything. Just that those guys are no better.
IMO, if any of those other guys come off the street, our season is already over and we need to just go ahead and start giving Pryor some experience.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
RaiderDuck Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Here are our options:
1) Trade for Palmer. What will Cincy want? How rusty is Palmer? How fast can he learn Hue’s system? Is his whiny crybaby act going to wreck the awesome team chemistry that Hue’s built?
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Not sure where you are getting the crybaby act stuff. Palmer has stood around watching the Bungholes make little to no effort to win with him for almost 10 years, and the entire time he had a bunch of actual criminals as teammates and a HC who just took the money and folded when he was going to hold out and make Mike Brown give them the things that every other professional football team had. The guy understood that Mike Brown has no interest in winning, and he wants out. Sounds smart to me.
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If he hated Cincy so much, then why did he sign long-term deals? Why not just refuse all contact extensions, let the Bengals Franchise him once or twice, then hit the market, like Nnamdi and Charles Woodson did with us?
Answer: He wanted the money, then decided he’d pick up his ball and go home. In other word, he’s a crybaby.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
897.GG Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
The only ones that would keep us aiming for playoffs are…Favre, Palmer, Orton, Garrard. Each one comes with risks and uncertainties, injuries, draft pick or financial cost.
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Farve no….Palmer hell no, Orton is out of the question…..Garrard is only QB that we can get that will satisfy the situation
October 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Dear GOD,, I beg of thee to put an end to the talks of thou following,,Carson Palmer,,Kyle Orton,,Bruce Glasskowski,,Vince Young,,Tim Tebow,, David Garrard,,and most importantly Brett Weiner,,I mean,,Brett Favre. AMEN,,,,
People say Pryor only knows 10% of the playbook,but honestly ,,,how much of the playbook are we even using? Run left,, run right,, throw deep,,check down,,reverse,, I’d say about,,,10%. just bring back Trent Edwards to be the 3rd Qb,, then ease Pryor into the offense over the next few games. Now is the time to give DMAC 25 touches and Bush 10-15 touches per game.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am
I have a feeling Garrard will sign with us. Book it.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I believe the Cable love fest has left the building.
“I love it,” Lechler said. “This is a very, very aggressive staff. Hue is an aggressive play caller. Some of the chances we take on special teams, a few weeks in a row, it’s fun to play for him. You feel like you always have a chance.”
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It’s like Al said in his final press conference: Cable was friendly to everyone, so they all liked him. But getting players to like you is NOT the same thing as putting those players in positions to succeed. Cable didn’t do that. Hue does do that.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
anyhow check with yall later
October 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Thats what Boller does, turn it over…even in Baltimore
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Baltimore didn’t have any where near the amount of talent we have here in Oakland.
Hand the ball off to DMac
Throw the ball on short routes to DHB
Take an occasional deep shot
Stay the hell outta the way.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
I just ordered my Kyle Orton Raider jersey. I will be sporting it on Nov. 6 when I go to the Denver game. Orton is going to take us to the Super Bowl baby!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I really don’t think we have any choices other than Boller and Garrard. Or a scrub to back up Boller.
Sign Garrard today.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Josh McCown.
Plusses: Smart guy, good teammate, good preparation.
Minuses: YOU can throw a hard out better than he can.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am
891.J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Dakota,
Maybe we have changed hats and I’m now the realist that you were.
Are you really telling me you believe a guy off the street how hasn’t played or practiced a down of football is going to come in here MID SEASON and get us to the playoffs?????
Campbell was not good to me AT ALL. That tells me this offense and coaching staff is good enough to win in spite of who’s playing QB.
I’m sitting here rewatching the 2nd half and I see a guy who got zero reps the past 2 weeks making nice throws to DHB and marching us up the field.
The only times we haven’t gone up and down the field is when we’ve had stupid penalties or run reverses to 3rd string TEs.
A guy off the street is going to come here and take about a qtr before all you guys start screaming about how he sucks and we need to go with Pryor, lol.
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I could see that last part happening in here, but not from me lol.
Jhill, I have watched Boller fail over and over again in the NFL. I was intruiged by him when he was drafted as I watched a pre-draft special where he could throw it 60 yards from his knees….it got me interested (must have a little Al Davis in me). Instead of being a big armed QB, what I saw was a turnover machine who has happy feet and can’t make any down field throws consistantly, and couldn’t win with one of the greatest defense ever.
This season is young. If it were week 13, then I would say we have to roll with Boller, but instead we have nearly three full weeks before the Broncos game after the bye. Garrard or Palmer could learn enough of the offense in that amount of time to start that game.
Campell has much more talent than Boller. I don’t buy your theory that the Raiders can turn Boller into a QB as good as Campbell. Sorry.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Can Garrard slide ?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Campbell ran like dmac from 09…tackled himself, fumbled and got hurt.
WTF already.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Boller as starting QB means endless 8 man fronts which will stifle DMac and force Boller to try and win the game with his arm which he can’t do because he’s fking terrible.
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Yep. Agree 100%. Might as well bench McFadden and let Bush waste his body against the 8 man fronts the rest of the year.
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Boeller put a dart on Schillens deep that was negated by a penalty.
He put nice throws on DHBs slant patterns time and time again.
Made one horrendous throw that missed DHB, but how many times per game did we say that when Campbell was in there???
Boeller moved the ball. He’ll be much better this weekend against KC now that he will get all the practice reps. Better than some guy off the street, that is.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:34 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Can Garrard slide ?
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He doesn’t need to slide. He weighs about 280.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am
#906
True but they did have thata early 2000’s Ravens D, a D Trent Dilfer won a SB with….I get what you are saying…But i just feel with a somewhat easy schedule and a BYE we should bring in someone now is the time, is it much better than just rolling with Boller , maybe not, but if Boller lays a turd and we go 0-2 , i that point its to late to bring someone in…i like the idea of having a second option to Boller thats all
October 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am
PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/raiders-reach-out-to-garrard-josh-mccown/
October 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Can Garrard slide ?
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LMAO!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Your mom weighs 280.
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# Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:34 am
He doesn’t need to slide. He weighs about 280.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:36 am
902.Pretty Rick Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Dear GOD,, I beg of thee to put an end to the talks of thou following,,Carson Palmer,,Kyle Orton,,Bruce Glasskowski,,Vince Young,,Tim Tebow,, David Garrard,,and most importantly Brett Weiner,,I mean,,Brett Favre. AMEN,,,,
People say Pryor only knows 10% of the playbook,but honestly ,,,how much of the playbook are we even using? Run left,, run right,, throw deep,,check down,,reverse,, I’d say about,,,10%. just bring back Trent Edwards to be the 3rd Qb,, then ease Pryor into the offense over the next few games. Now is the time to give DMAC 25 touches and Bush 10-15 touches per game.
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Are u suggesting we start Pryor NOW?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:37 am
So for those of you that were at the game, what was this video tribute to Al? Did he have a speech after death??
October 17th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Starting Pryor now is an admission to folding it up until next year
October 17th, 2011 at 8:40 am
920.Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:37 am
So for those of you that were at the game, what was this video tribute to Al? Did he have a speech after death??
No, it was clips of past interviews, SB wins, etc…then they had the old players in the middle of the field pay tribute (even though Tim Brown was NOT present)…then it ended with John Madden lighting the torch!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Al will get Palmer. Or woulda…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:37 am
So for those of you that were at the game, what was this video tribute to Al? Did he have a speech after death??
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You can watch the video on Raiders.com
October 17th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Garrard or Palmer could learn enough of the offense in that amount of time to start that game.
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Not even entertaining the Palmer talk as it’s pretty clear Brown is not giving him up for a 4th rd pick.
HELL TO THE NAW on giving up our #1 for him. He’s been pretty bad the last couple of years in Cincy anyway.
Garrard and Boller are the same guy to me. I don’t see him as that much of an upgrade of Boller to have him here and starting in 3 weeks.
LMFAO man!!!!
A QB off the streets with 3 weeks of practice time is NOT going to get us to the playoffs.
Cmon Dakota!! I can’t believe YOU of all people are promoting this.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
It was emotional, nonetheless!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Anyone who thinks Pryor is going to be playing in the next few weeks is delusional. We don’t even know if he is capable of playing QB in the NFL.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Dakota, 836 was a good read and good points.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
If we were in a rebuilding mode they might throw Pryor out there but we are “built” and ready to make some noise.
Sign anybody that can slide!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Did R Seymour make a play yesterday ?
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# hwnrdr Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
It was emotional, nonetheless!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Broncos would deal Orton to the Raiders
PFT
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Thec07 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:32 am
JaMarcus, anyone?
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The 250 lb no syrup drinking one?………Nah…
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250? He must be 400 by now.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:43 am
I just heard Brandon Lloyd is getting traded to the rams.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Lmao @ no Timma Brown. Fitting for the self described Mr. Raider.
Peddle your ish on Tampa Tim. Good riddance.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Not sure if mentioned already…
Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports the Raiders are “trying hard” to acquire Carson Palmer. Cole’s source “highly doubts” Bengals owner Mike Brown would make a move, but perhaps the Raiders could make him think with a big offer.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:44 am
I know…why can’t JC slide? That fumble was a big wtf? But he does do that from time to time…and then he decided to channel his inner Gradkowski…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Ok, I could be wrong.
I’ll take a step back from this and let you explain to me how a guy off the street is going to help our offense?
Our playbook is so simple that one of these guys will be able to pick it up and we can “keep rollin”????
October 17th, 2011 at 8:44 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Did R Seymour make a play yesterday ?
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Only if you actually watch the game. Or know what you are seeing. But how bout ‘dem Browns mistabrown!!! They look like you out there: sh**.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Seymour…I heard his name but not sure what it was…LOL
930.MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Did R Seymour make a play yesterday ?
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# hwnrdr Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
It was emotional, nonetheless!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am
That fumble was a big wtf?
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How many times a game did we sit here and say WTF is he doing when Campbell was in there?
We are already used to saying it, so I don’t see the big deal in switching to Boller.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am
MikieG Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:11 am
A few game observations
1-Boller looked like a golfer who hasn’t golfed in 2 months trying to hit a tucked pin…dude had no confidence and was all over the freakin place. Hoping a weeks worth of reps and 1:1 meetings with Hue helps his accuracy.
2-Bush doesn’t look as good as he did last year..Appears as though he is just running into the L.O.S and falling down..Would love to see Taiwan get some of Bush’s carries to gain some experience, because Like it or not (and I don’t) Bush is gone next year folks..
3. Our defense looked fantastic yesterday. They had Baby Horsey running for his life and dude was as rattled as a box of rocks..Loved it..Were gonna need to do the same thing next week against the Chefs..This is a HUGE game considering its within the division. A must win.
4. Hue is the most ballsy playcaller I have ever seen at the NFL level..I love his style, he can absolutely take us to the promised land, we just need a QB that has the same fortitude as he does. Let the search begin.
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Good point……Bush aint coming back next year!!
Trade him and get something in return!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am
SeymourGlen666, you were pumping up the Browns BIG time last week. You said their O-line was the business! How did they look not picking up those blitz’s yesterday ?
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am
I’ll check in with you guys later, when we discuss the pros and cons of the signing of David Garrard!
October 17th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Yah I didnt see him make a play either. Maybe SeymourGlen666Bush was watching a different game ?
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hwnrdr Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Seymour…I heard his name but not sure what it was…LOL
October 17th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Hate to say it but now is the time to plan for out 2012 QB. JC was no shoe in and now less so. Pryor too raw. Carson should get a shot at winning the long term job.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Djohnnyg,,, notice I said ease him into the offense, I’m not sayn he should start today but I’d rather he get the reps than some Qb off the street. I think it’ll take 1 touchdown to get his confidence going.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Ravens best team in the AFC until this point. Their passing game is weak and we can now stop the run. Point is we can make it to the superbowl with Favre as the qb. Any other qb and we won’t make the playoffs
October 17th, 2011 at 8:50 am
I’m glad Lloyd was traded. I have him on my fantasy team. He will catch more balls with Rams.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:50 am
#943
PROS: Gives us another option than just letting Boller lay turds on Sundays for us.
CONS: None – if he and Boller suck then who cares season over anyways…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:50 am
945.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Hate to say it but now is the time to plan for out 2012 QB. JC was no shoe in and now less so. Pryor too raw. Carson should get a shot at winning the long term job.
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I agree Bo. I would give up a 1st round pick for 31 year old Palmer. He could do some damage with this team and running game. He would be our starter for 5 years or so…well worth a first round pick. Hope Mike Brown will come to his senses.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:51 am
I agree Bo. I would give up a 1st round pick for 31 year old Palmer. He could do some damage with this team and running game. He would be our starter for 5 years or so…well worth a first round pick. Hope Mike Brown will come to his senses.
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Rather trade a 2nd rounder for Matt Flynn.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am
shhhhhh.
just a word out to my raidernation brothers…
dark horse qb trade possibly in the works.
someone you would not expect, currently plays behind a horrible oline, has a rifle for an arm.
all i can say at this point…would be the trade would involve multiple players, teams and picks.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Sign Garrard, draft a QB in the first round next season.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Yes, I agree, we have to AT LEAST sign Garrard. We can’t just sit on our hands by siging some douche like McClown or Trent Edwards and then HOPE Boller can make some plays. We know Garrard can make plays. I’ll take my chances that Garrard can get a decent handle on this offense in three weeks rather than hoping Boller can do something he has never even shown the hint of being able to do……winning.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:54 am
someone you would not expect, currently plays behind a horrible oline, has a rifle for an arm.
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We are not bringing that prima dona Cutler to Oakland.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:55 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:46 am
SeymourGlen666, you were pumping up the Browns BIG time last week. You said their O-line was the business! How did they look not picking up those blitz’s yesterday ?
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You really didn’t see the game did you? You know, vomiting in a trash can in the parking lot does not equal going to the game.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 am
I dislike Favre, but JUST WIN BABY! The guy worked out with Jason Campbell in the offseason and his Aaron Rodgers rant makes it sounds like he’d love to show he’s still got it. Forget the playbook, Favre only has to play 8 games this year until Cambpells back
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Trade for McNabb. Min isnt going anywhere and McNabb might be the guy to help Pryor get his feet.
I know McNabb looked like hell last night. But with 8 qb knock downs and 5 sacks for Chicago. That will make anyone look bad.
McNabb has the arm to get the ball down the field to our 4.2 guys.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Cutler would be plausible only because he’s currently running a Martz Air Coryell system and can therefore pick up Saunders Air Coryell playbook up.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:58 am
fck mcnabb…He didnt want to be here when he had the chance…
October 17th, 2011 at 8:58 am
I would rather bring back Culpepper or McCown or Edwards before McNabb.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Spot on Dakota , I cant believe some ppl jst want to roll with Boller….Signing Garrard cant hurt if he doesnt work out for us , we still have Boller… and we are back to where we are now….But just to hand it over to him with no other options is silly.
October 17th, 2011 at 8:59 am
would give up a 1st round pick for 31 year old Palmer
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palmer looked horrible last few seasons he played, he’s not the same guy. At least Garrard looked decent last season. Favres the answer for 8 games….
October 17th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Palmer comes from losers. Has loser in his blood. Boller will get better w more snaps.
Gotta look elsewhere for the best player, but Jackson knows what he’s doing, kept Boller. had to keep him for a reason. Receivers struggle wnew qb due to different ball velocity. By end of wk they’ll be fine.
angry pencil-neck guy on espn says Raiders can’t make it w Boller. He right about as often as rmr and priest.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 am
raids see a 3-5 year window of opportunity on which to capitalize. expect the unexpected…like fake punts much?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Favre only has to play 8 games this year until Cambpells back>>>>>
Inoneword…..I think Campbell has taken his last snap as an Oakland Raider. Fractured clavicle:
“Prognosis
Healing time varies based on age, health, complexity and location of the break as well as the bone displacement. For adults, a minimum of 3–4 weeks of sling immobilization is normally employed to allow initial bone and soft tissue healing, teenagers require slightly less, children can often achieve the same level in two weeks. During this period, patients may remove the sling to practice passive pendulum Range of Motion (ROM) exercises to reduce atrophy in the elbow and shoulder, but they are minimized to 15-20 degrees off vertical.
The immobilization is followed by a theraputic regimen of passive exercises, and later of active exercises. Full radiological union is typically achieved in 16 weeks for adult surgical patients, and shorter times are achieved by teenagers and young children. In patients who participated in prescribed physical therapy, 85-100% mobility returned in 6–9 months, with full strength returning in 9–12 months.”
6 months minimum……
October 17th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Faver would make it all about him and circus would ensue. Would also diminish coaches authority like it does everywhere he goes. Too inconsistent.Glad he’s gone.
Not to mention he texted his johnson to some chick
October 17th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Garard is the best answer, but he won’t be ready for a month.
McCown or Edwards would be brought in in the event of Boller getting hurt, not to replace him.
Best bet is………
Gradkowski!!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Boller is not the answer. Every team he has played for found that out.
McNabb and Favre are done.
Palmer is not worth a 1st round pick by any stretch of the imagination.
If you think the Bears are trading Cutler, stop eating paint chips.
Garrard is like JC. Average. He’ll take more chances than JC, but that also means he’ll turn the ball over more than JC. Motivation could be an issue, but he won’t be a long-term answer. Raiders HAVE TO look for their QB of the future in the first round next season.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:04 am
faver’s just a d@ck.
would pollute a good locker room
stooooopid idea
Hey lets go get Ken Stabler!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Orton is garbage and I wouldn’t trade a 2014 85th round pick for him.
You think Soup is lifeless? Wait until Orton is manning the post.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:05 am
campbell = done/finito
October 17th, 2011 at 9:05 am
All aboard the Southwick bandwagon!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:06 am
lets face it
Soup was no spring chicken
all we need is a manager who wont turn it over
Boller might be able to do just enuf
They still gotta bring someone in
a veteran
October 17th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Cutler may be another Jeff George, but he would put up big numbers with Raiders. I don’t see why the Bears would trade him. They have nobody else at QB, unless they can get Orton back.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:06 am
McNabb – done.
Favre – done.
JC – done.
Garrard – potential
Palmer – That would be awesome.
Boller – he did win yesterday and played better as the game progressed. He was not in rythm when he got it in. Hue should have eased him in with dump offs and screens, which he did in the 2nd half. Are his misses any worse than JC’s out of bounds or overthrows?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Looking at McNabbs stats. They are very comparable to Camp’s. Except he’s been sacked 97 times.
I would take McNabb over someone woh hasnt played a snap this year. At least he’s been to the playoffs and a super bowl.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
You guys are delusional about Orton. In the right situation, he would do very well. I think he would fit in perfectly with the Raiders. He throws a much nicer deep ball than Campbell.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Raiders HAVE TO look for their QB of the future in the first round next season.
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Shouldn’t we get a look at Pryor before spending a 1st rd pick on a QB next year?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Jason Campbell looks incredibly nimble in the pocket, but once he gets about 3 yards past the LOS, he literally craps his pants.
How does an 8 year vet not understand how to slide?
This season he stumbled and almost hurt himself in the Bills game, fell and fumbled in the Browns game, than inexplicably lunges for a 1st down exposing his shoulder, in an October game against the Browns.
That’s what you get from a career non-playoff game QB. Doesn’t understand the grind of the playoffs and a 16 game season, because he has never experienced it.
Time to go…..Glo.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Fine, I will give my relative Kurt Warner a call and he’ll be in Oakland by the end of the day.
Sheesh, the things I have to do for you guys!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Bo…A little disappointed again on Saturday…what is it with Michigan and palying Michigan State as of late…and Hawaii losing to SJSU! The only good this weekend was Raiders winning yesterday (which also coupled as a oh no with Campbell going down yetserday)!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
If collarbone in Campbell’s non-throwing shoulder had snapped, he could potentially have returned in 6 – 8 weeks.
In his throwing shoulder, forget it. He’s out until offseason OTA’s, assuming we even re-sign him.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
McNabb is shot. If we get him it means three teams in less than three seasons have dumped him. He didn’t have a lot to work with his last couple of stops, but he looks bad right now.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
weaselbit Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:04 am
faver’s just a d@ck.
would pollute a good locker room
stooooopid idea
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who gives us a better chance
A) Favre
B)Boeller
C) Orton
D) Gradkowski
E) Edwards
F) Pryor
G) Leinert
H) Palmer
October 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
REPOST:
Chris in NY Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 6:09 am
I have no idea whether Favre has any intention of coming back. My guess is, probably not. I also don’t know if his body can answer the bell again.
However, how perfect a fit would he be right now?
Consider …
- We’re a running team and still would be with Favre under center. He wouldn’t have to carry the team. Just make plays when they’re there to be made.
- Great deep ball thrower off of play-action.
- One of the few guys out there on the street or on another roster who you could expect to walk in and be able to pick up the playbook in essentially no time.
- The o-line is playing great and giving the QB good time to make throws. I have faith they could keep Favre healthy, upright and making plays.
- Always felt like Favre should spend at least one season in Silver & Black, didn’t it?
- What better time for him to do so than now, when he’s been written off as so many great Raiders before him. When he’s been cast as the villain as the Raiders eternally are.
- John Madden has reportedly entered the fold as an advisor to Mark Davis and the Raiders. Who is Madden’s favorite player of all-time (excluding the guys he coached)?
- Green Bay looks like the frontrunner to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Of course, no guarantees, but it’s a distinct possibility. I truly believe that the Raiders, with good QB play, could be the team on the other side of that championship game. How perfect would it be for Favre and the Raiders — on the back of Al Davis’ passing — to meet Favre’s former team and superstar understudy, and the team that represented the NFL more than any other back in Al’s AFL days, to collide in what would surely be the most incredible storyline game in the history of football.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, HUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
JFB,
Im not high on Orton either, but you say Orton is garbage, but also want Gradkowski back??? Is that a joke or something?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:09 am
who gives us a better chance
A) Favre
B)Boeller
C) Orton
D) Gradkowski
E) Edwards
F) Pryor
G) Leinert
H) Palmer
I) Garrard
October 17th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Go get Gradkowski to give us a good 4 games before he gets hurt, than Pryor should be ready.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Garard is the best answer, but he won’t be ready for a month.
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Agreed.
So if we project that out, and Boller had been so bad that we need to put Garrard in there 4-5 weeks from now, we are out of the playoffs anyway.
Might as well see what Pryor has to offer.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
People need to relax. This team will be fine and Boller will do exactly what Campbell has been doing. I’m sure Hue will drill the message home to him about not being stupid with the ball and just manage the game. The argument of what he did in his past holds no water now. Not with this coaching staff. Let’s see how he does against KC and judge from there. Realistically he will be starting up until the buy week anyways. No way can they bring anyone in here to start right away.
Even on the drive in to work this morning all the San Diego talk show hosts are saying the the Raiders will be ok. They realize this team is not built around the QB.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
MSU?
Spuck the Fartans…
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Orton is ten times better than Gradkowski.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Shouldn’t we get a look at Pryor before spending a 1st rd pick on a QB next year?
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Pryor will get a look. Best case scenario? Both kids can play and you have a good problem on your hands. No reason not to insure the QB position when there’s plenty of uncertainty there.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Kyle Boller once went 0-11 one year at Cal.
I have hated that guy for years, and has 1.5 times more turnovers than TD’s for his career.
We are going to be watching Don Hollas 2.0 if he gets a few starts.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:12 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:06 am
McNabb – done.
Favre – done.
JC – done.
Garrard – potential
Palmer – That would be awesome.
Boller – he did win yesterday and played better as the game progressed. He was not in rythm when he got it in. Hue should have eased him in with dump offs and screens, which he did in the 2nd half. Are his misses any worse than JC’s out of bounds or overthrows?
Weasel:
I concur. Except Jackson DID run those plays and there were a few drops. once they started catching they were okay. Had the FG been kicked there would have been no worries at the end. Boller did get better as the game went on. after a week he will be able to be a good manager. Probably as good as Soup. You still have to bring soemone in, in case he gets hurt. Pryor not ready. We were one injury away from lechler being qb yeterday.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:12 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
weaselbit Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:04 am
faver’s just a d@ck.
would pollute a good locker room
stooooopid idea
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who gives us a better chance
A) Favre
B)Boeller
C) Orton
D) Gradkowski
E) Edwards
F) Pryor
G) Leinert
H) Palmer
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1. Favre
2. Palmer
3. Grads
4. Orton
5 tie: Leinart, Boller, Edwards, Pryor
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Do I want to give up a 3rd or 4th rounder for Orton, and pay him 5 million dollars the rest of the year, or have the Bronco’s eat it and have to give up maybe two picks, or just schlepp off a 6th rounder for Bruce??
Not even a question for a debate.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Pryor? Come on already, that was an Al Davis pipe dream. Kid didn’t even look like he could take a snap from under center prior to that preseason game. fk me, we are on the cusp of becoming a decent team and you guys want to see Pryor get some snaps?
puuuuuuuke.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
The fact that the Raiders are already looking at options outside of their own QB depth chart shows you how confident they are in Boller and how ready Pryor is to play.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Vegas…..you crack me up sometimes bro!!
What is it with you and your man crush?
Lol……dude
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Chris In NY:
You’re right on. The rest of you really think Palmer miraculously will look like Palmer of old plus cost us a ton? Or Orton the same guy we played week 1 can do the trick who will also cost us something? Or Garrard who got cut and hasn’t been signed can do it? Or fragile Bruce whom the Bengals might not be willing to part with? Or Terrell Pryor who wasn’t very good against Big Ten defenses? Favre’s the only hope
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Weasel,
I agree that we need someone in to backup Boller. IMHO, we have the best back in the league and a top 5 running game, any nfl level QB should be having a career year with that run support.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I dont think Kyles worth trading for.
And his name s@ks. Kyle Orton. Sounds wimpy.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:15 am
We are going to be watching Don Hollas 2.0 if he gets a few starts.
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Donald Hollas had a winning record.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Chris in NY…post 666 (Herman Cain’s idea, upside down, 999) or as Michelle Backmann would say, the sign of the Beast!
Hey, if you’re not a defense attorney you should become one. Nice job done in building a case for Favre.
The problem is Farve is old, puggy, out of shape, filled with crawdaddy’s and catfish, while doing Wrangler commercials and downing bottles of Louisiana
bourbon.
Let’s just stick to what we have. Use the next few weeks to super charge the training and coaching process so that the ONE, Pryor, can just go in and do the best he can do…if Boller gets hurt or isn’t cuting it…then it’s on Pryor. If Pryor is the ONE, just like Morpheus knew that Neo was the ONE, then it’s all good. If Pryor isn’t the ONE, then we just move on.
Maybe the Plunk still has it in him. I would take the Plunk over Farve at this time. At least the Plunk has Tom Flores backing his play, watching his back and sharing King Taco Burritos with him.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Garrard
Palmer
Orton
Boller
Favre
Grads
Pryor
October 17th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Go get Gradkowski to give us a good 4 games before he gets hurt, than Pryor should be ready.
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HAHA you might be right
October 17th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Might as well see what Pryor has to offer.
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Yup, count me in on that bandwagon. All he has to do is do be like forest gump..run pryor run.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Morpheus? Who is Morpheus?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
we are on the cusp of becoming a decent team and you guys want to see Pryor get some snaps?
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Nope.
Didn’t want to see the starter go down.
I have no doubt that Boller can at least be Campbelleque.
I hope Boller doesn’t get hurt.
All of the above doesn’t work out, playoffs are a pipe dream. In THAT case, I want to see if Pryor can play QB so I know whether or not we need to draft one next year.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I think in Jackson’s terminology that Campbell suffered a Big Nick, not a little nick..
October 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I’m not saying faver couldn’t do it. I’m just saying he’s a d@k and would ruin a good locker room and diminish coaches control. Fg decision aside, Jackson’s doing his job well.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Obviously.
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# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I think in Jackson’s terminology that Campbell suffered a Big Nick, not a little nick..
October 17th, 2011 at 9:20 am
1014.MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Obviously.
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# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I think in Jackson’s terminology that Campbell suffered a Big Nick, not a little nick..
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lol you guys are too funny…..obviously lol.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:20 am
ESPN says we brought in Garrard
October 17th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Alot of opinions on Pryor and prob 99% of the people with an opinion haven’t ever seen the guy play Qb.
smh
October 17th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Carson Palmer quit on his team,,, that’s the guy people want to be the new leader of the Raiders? hmm,,,,,,
October 17th, 2011 at 9:21 am
The “am I coming back or not?” circus——for yeeeeeears!!
Holding press conferences where he trashes his coaches———
Texting his johnson?????
NO MORE CANCERS!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:21 am
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Garard is the best answer, but he won’t be ready for a month.
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Agreed.
So if we project that out, and Boller had been so bad that we need to put Garrard in there 4-5 weeks from now, we are out of the playoffs anyway.
Might as well see what Pryor has to offer.
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Even if we go 2-2 the next 4 games that takes us to 6-4 and the Bears@home in 6 weeks. Plenty of time for Garrard to prepare for the final 6 games.
Garrard is the best of what’s out there how can you disagree with that? Boller will start vs. KC. we’ll see what he’s got.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Favre? Hilarious. Pick up a QB for depth and medium to long term in case Boller really stinks. Otherwise, we have to roll with Boller in the immediate future whether you folks like it or not. Hue will make the right call.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Kyle Orton
2009 3,800 yards 21 TD 12 INT
2010 3,600 yards 20 TD 9 INT
Those numbers are way better than any Raider QB since Gannon. The guy can throw the ball.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I know Garrard wanted a team to invest in him but I think he may take a short term deal to be on a loaded with offensive power team.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Palmer trying to get away from an owner who is only keeping him to hurt his career out of spite.
Palmer shouldn’t have gone public, but it’s Cincinnati, eternal bunghole of the league.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I hope you do realize that Boller is the starter this week. This ain’t a linebacker this is the QB position. So whoever comes in will be a backup unless they prove they know the playbook better than Boller. BOLLER IS OUR BEST OPTION SO FAR!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Why wouldn’t Garrard be ready for a month? He just played an preseason with Jacksonville. Not like this is that complex of an offense for a guy to pick up. McNabb might not get it, but Garrard would pick it up in a decent amount of time.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Some of you act like we have a dropoff like the Colts when they lost Peyton. Soup was really that good in your eyes? Lol
October 17th, 2011 at 9:26 am
1023.aig-raiders Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I know Garrard wanted a team to invest in him but I think he may take a short term deal to be on a loaded with offensive power team.
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Garrard just wanted a guaranteed contract for 2011….I think we can accomodate him on that.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Soup wasnt that great…But Boller is utter garbage….ppl need to realize there is a bigger gap between soup and KB than they realize….
October 17th, 2011 at 9:28 am
On a brighter note CUrry played well for 1 practice. Def upgrade over Q, still looking for Seymour’s # to be called.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Garrard is the best of what’s out there how can you disagree with that?
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I don’t think anyone has disagreed with that.
But what does “best” really translate to?
At best, he’ll be as good as Campbell, right?
Or do you think he can be better than Campbell was?
What type of expectations do you guys have for a guy off the street?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 am
on a side note up to 1030 comments….wonder what the record is….
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Wow, guess Gruden is done coaching….signed a 5 year deal with ESPN.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Boller has to start, no question.. Pryor needs to sit all year and LEARN…
But Boller may not get us any more that a couple wins for the rest of the season and is definitely not the long term answer..
Palmer, if he was even a little mobile and wouldnt break the bank would probably be the best option.. But if he stands in the pocket like Ja-pork-ass did, we might as well stick with Boller… Can Carson run??
I think we find a QB with a similar skill set to Campbell… Is that a healthy Garrard? I think so…
Edwards?… NO
Orton?… HELL NO!
Frye?… Why?
McCown?… What are you smoking??
Hell, bring Favre out of retirement and run the damn ball… Its what we do best anyway! If nothing else, the post-game pressers will be entertaining!!
Hate to say it, shouldve never let Bruce get away!! Sure he’s not the answer, but couldve at least kept us winning… Not so confident right now…
October 17th, 2011 at 9:31 am
If Jackson thinks Boller’s ok, I’m down w it. He knows playbook better than anybody. still going to need a backup. Would be good to see Pryor play. He just hasn’t been there long enough. Boller is only option rt now. Never know. He may step up and do well. Rustier than I expected last week but with a week of snaps he’ll be alright. Jackson will run plays to ensure his success. Receivers will be used to his throwing style. There were a few drops only due to timing differences. They are pros and have the desire. It’ll work out. Expect a veteran to be brought in as Boller’s safety net.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:33 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:28 am
On a brighter note CUrry played well for 1 practice. Def upgrade over Q, still looking for Seymour’s # to be called.
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Mcclain, DVD, DHB, Bryant, Ford all played well. The future is bright my friends.
Boller will start next week and the chefs run D isn’t anything special then its a week off. No worries guys JC is gone but he hasn’t exactly been lighting it up. Bring in Garrard!
Later guys
October 17th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I clowned all of my Dolphin homeboys who were begging for Kyle Orton in the preseason, now here we are begging for,,,,,,Kyle Orton,, cmao (crying my ass off)
October 17th, 2011 at 9:34 am
BTW, love the Curry trade!… Great value move, nice job Hue!! Also, way to go (I cant believe Im writing this) to Chuckie B. for dialing up the blitz!… Its about damn time!! That D was back to being malicious once again!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:35 am
The Big Banana Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Some of you act like we have a dropoff like the Colts when they lost Peyton. Soup was really that good in your eyes? Lol
Weasel: Exactly!!! not like we lost Aaron Rodgers. wont take much to be equal to Soup. Just be barely adequate. Rest of the team strong. except d but they’re making huge progress.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Dakota…post 999 (Or the sign of the beast 666 upside down)
Dakota, you need to go watch the Matrix. Neo was the ONE, just like Pryor is the ONE. Pryor has all the intangibles that most QB’s coming into the league don’t have. Size, speed, etc. etc…blah blah blah.
Many of you guys just write him off as being too inexperienced and you’re 100% right. Except, what if, ya, what if Pryor is the ONE. If he is, then he’ll “Just, do it” … you know, like in “Just, Win Baby!”
Ya, I for one hope we can’t get anyone. I hope we’re forced to go with what we have. Hue has to be consistent. He says he brought Curry in to play and that’s why he started him. Well, they got Pryor in the Supplemental, so they have to play the ONE, not look at him.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:36 am
saladfingerz Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am
shhhhhh.
just a word out to my raidernation brothers…
dark horse qb trade possibly in the works.
someone you would not expect, currently plays behind a horrible oline, has a rifle for an arm.
all i can say at this point…would be the trade would involve multiple players, teams and picks.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
My sources tell me Tom Brady is in play because the Raiders have a good relationship with New England!
LMFAO
October 17th, 2011 at 9:37 am
QB position =/= LB position. At all.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:37 am
At some pt I would like to see what Pryor can do…
October 17th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Let’s bring Garrard in and see what kind of shape he is in. Very similar to Campbell, but a few years back, I much would have rather had Garrard. Iffy back scares me a bit.
Bush is a compliment RB to McFadden. I know you guys want to see McFadden with the ball all the time, but he needs his breaks. McFadden isn’t the healthiest RB in the league. We need to spell him so that he IS healthy for the whole year. Big hits in goal line and short yardage situation. That’s where we take our 212 lb RB out for a 248 lb RB to do some damage on their defenders. Taiwan Jones probably is as clueless on pass protection as McFadden in his rookie year. Defenses know when TJ is in the game, Oakland isn’t likely going to pass. TJ is learning, he’ll get his shots.
Campbell isn’t Manning or Brady, but he was our best chance at the AFC West since 2002. So yes it is a big deal that Campbell went down. Vs KC and vs Denver at home are guarantee victories if Campbell is healthy.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Some updates on the QB situation from Jason LaCanfora:
-Mentions Trent Edwards in addition to David Garrard as someone the Raiders have reached out to.
-Says the Raiders aren’t inclined to want Kyle Orton since he lost his starting job
-Says Hue is still “pushing” Cincinnati “hard” for Carson Palmer. Seems he really really wants him.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:40 am
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7114405/qb-needy-oakland-raiders-contact-david-garrard-source-says
October 17th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Garrard would be about equall to Campbell in terms of production from the passing game, but he is much better at running the ball, which might help open up the offense. Had 10 rushing TDs last three seasons compared to Campbell’s 5.
I like our chances with Garrard about as much as I liked our chances with Campbell. Actually, Garrard might hit some of thiose wide open guys down the field. Didn’t Garrard burn us for three TDs last year?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:43 am
*****equal & those****
October 17th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Hagar…your cliches…
October 17th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Send L Murphy and Seymour to Cinn for Palmer if you want him that bad Hue.
Murphy is toast & Seymour is washed up, unload those contracts.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Says Hue is still “pushing” Cincinnati “hard” for Carson Palmer. Seems he really really wants him.
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Push away Hue. Make it happen and we are set at QB for the next five years.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Seymour aint washed up he has 5 sacks out of the team’s 16 are you nuts?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Carson would be awesome.
And Brown would be stupid to not let him go for a 1.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Weaslebit,,,don’t say that too loud or they’ll call you delusional like I’ve been called. Lol
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
marios Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Seymour aint washed up he has 5 sacks out of the team’s 16 are you nuts?
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Quite.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Palmer will not be here.Brown has made it personal with Palmer,and i have heard Brown is still mad at us for snatching up Warren Sapp right from under them
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
As a Cubs fan I have no faith in anyone named anything close to Prior.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
are givin me migraines…
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Bo Schembechler…post 1010:
Morpheus is the character played by Lawrence Fishburne in the Matrix and Keanu Reeves is Neo, or the ONE.
I used these characters in “humor” but in seriousness
as well. My point is…leave all these rejects alone because they’re all losers at this time of their lives.
That’s why they’re not playing and that’s why some of them may be available. But, we’re desperate, so we’ll be reamed, we’ll be bztt-fuk’d for a loser.
Why look else where and over pay…doesn’t make sense when you went into the Supplement Draft and gave up a third rounder for a potential super-star. Throw the ONE (Pryor) into the fire and let him burn or survive.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I still don’t know if I’d go beyond a 2013 2nd rounder for Palmer.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I agree. I think Murphy is toast. Dude can’t come over the middle any more.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
We are a very young team. I think we could afford to give up one more draft pick to get a guy like Palmer. If we could get him for a 2nd rounder I would do back flips naked through Hot Springs.
But I would be okay with giving up a 1st rounder for him.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
As a Cubs fan I have no faith in anyone named anything close to Prior.
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Hue isn’t Dusty Baker so we don’t have to worry about Pryor throwing til his arm falls off!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:51 am
I would expect us to push for a trade until tomorrow. If nothing is there you got all the time in the world for FA.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Pryor is not supernatural bro. Actually, he sucks.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Pryor is not supernatural bro. Actually, he sucks.
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I know, just look at his record vs. Michigan.
Oh wait…
October 17th, 2011 at 9:52 am
also heard troy smith’s name out there
October 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
#
they should be getting reps in….
# Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Okay, I hate giving away draft picks, especially first rounders, but if it takes a 1st round draft pick to get Carson Palmer out of Bungholeland then we should do it. Palmer is 31 years old. He would be our QB for 5 years. I think that is a safe return on a 1st round pick. But we might be battling the Bungholes for a playoff spot, so they may not want to trade with us simply based on that fact, but that doesn’t sound like Mike Brown….he doesn’t really care about anything but money, so it shouldn’t be a big problem! But if Mike Brown is so stupid that he wouldn’t take a 1st round pick then….
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No way we give up a first rounder for Carson…dude is 31, but has the body of a 40 year old, and he hasn’t been the same since he got his knee snapped in the playoffs by the Steelers..
Also, he is a statue back there, we need a player with a minimum amount of mobility..he doesn’t have it. He hasn’t even practiced or played in a game since last year, and it would take him forever to get up to game speed.
We MUST get Gerrard in here, NOW, so he can have 19-20 days to learn some plays and get his game legs back..That is plenty of time to get a decent amount of reps in, especially with the running game we have..Let Boller beat KC…and start Gerrard after the bye. We will not make the playoffs if Boller is handed the keys to this kingdom in my opinion.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Trade Pryor and Murphy for carson
October 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
While I don’t have a problem with getting Garrard I just have a feeling Boller will play better than anyone is anticipating. I think Garrard can help us get through the season we need to go 6-4 the rest of the way to get into the playoffs. But trust me at some point TPryor will play and I think will play good enough to win with. Pryor is so freakin’ athletic and a good enough passer to give him a package that fits him and bring him along we wont it all now. I think it WAS a possibility with Camp but now if I’m the Raiders at some point I want to see Pryor perform under pressure and see what we have. Because they have to decide who’s the starting QB for next year and if Pryor can carry this team going forward.
Unlike most of you I think JC is better than Garrard longterm so next season if I’m teh GM I resign JC as the starter and Pryor as his backup BUT you cannot do that if you don’t know what you have in Pryor. This season is essentially OVER get ready for the FUTURE……………period
October 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Dakota…
Cubs fan, really. Do you have faith in them?
Sounds to me that you’ve never had a King Taco burrito!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Trade Pryor and Murphy for carson
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Does Cincy need a long snapper?
October 17th, 2011 at 9:54 am
tj….you dont know a damn thing….period
October 17th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Ok, since we’re talking fantasy here, lol …..
I’m looking forward to the Colts sucking the rest of the season and drafting Luck.
If they luck up and get Luck, pretty sure they cut Manning and that massive contract.
Peyton Manning to the Raiders!!!!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
#1072
Blasphemy , Condo is the RAIIIIIIDERS…LoL
October 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
OSU won despite Terrelle. He passes like a shotputter.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
The Raiders would be insane to give up anything more than a 2013 2nd for Palmer, and even that is pushing it.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:57 am
lol
October 17th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Actually, I’d do a 2013 2nd rounder & Murphy.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I think Muphys trade value went to zero after he pooped his pants going over the middle yesterday.
Saw this last year from him too!
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Priesttj….post 1070:
Excellente…at least all the mumbo jumbo on Pryor.
Yes, we need to know what we have…throw him into the fire…maybe he’s the ONE.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
so next season if I’m teh GM I resign JC as the starter and Pryor as his backup
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I’d resign Campbell, but as the backup to Manning.
Pryor = #3.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Trade Pryor and Murphy for carson
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They have their QB of the future in Andy Dalton. Why would they want Pryor? lmfao
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
And just think a few days ago the trade rumors were about Robert Mathis(unlikely as that was) now its shifted to Carson Palmer…How one play can change everything
October 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Any QBs in the other football leagues?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:00 am
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Ok, since we’re talking fantasy here, lol …..
I’m looking forward to the Colts sucking the rest of the season and drafting Luck.
If they luck up and get Luck, pretty sure they cut Manning and that massive contract.
Peyton Manning to the Raiders!!!!!!
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Haha, Jhill. I approve. If Manning came to the Raiders with thus cast of young talent, we’d be sh1tting Superbowl trophies.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Can Palmer run though?? Our O-Line has done a decent job, but it takes a little manuvering back there… Love him or hate him, Soup does a good job at staying upright…
October 17th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Dakota, I met Bartman the other day. He’s a really nice guy. Cubs fans should give him a break.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:03 am
“Raiders pushing Hard for Palmer”
ring ring
Mike Brown: Hello?
Hue: Coach Brown! Its Hue Jackson! How are you doing these days?
Brown: Pretty good, the team has been profitable.
Hue: Well that’s good to hear! Hey, I guess you probably heard that we lost Jason Campbell yesterday.
Brown: Is he that race car driver that died?
Hue: No no no, he is our quarter back!
Brown: Who’s quarterback?
Hue: The Raiders’ quarterback obviously.
Brown: The Raiders? I thought you were with the Ravens.
Hue: No, I am the head coach of the Raiders now.
Brown: Oh, I didn’t know that, well congratulations. Now what is it that you need?
Hue: Well, obviously we have an injured quarterback, and obviously you have a pretty good young quarterback now, and obviously you no longer need Carson Palmer, because obviously you are going in the right direction with Dalton, and we obviously could use a new quarterback now that Campbell is hurt, so I think we have an obvious win-win situation right in front of us. We’ll give you a first round pick for the rights to Carson Palmer. Obviously that will help your team and obviously us too!
Brown: Fuk Palmer. He can rot at home much like how Al let Marcus rot on the bench. Don’t fuk with us great owners! How is Al these days anyhow. Haven’t heard from him in a while.
Hue: Coach Brown, Al passed away a week ago.
Brown: Oh that is too bad, tell him I am sorry to hear that the next time you see him okay?
Hue: Huh, okay. (Click)
October 17th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Just heard from Sirius NFL, Garrard and his agent are discussing the Raiders offer/opening and will get back to the team by the end of the day.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:04 am
McCown?… Noway…. Might as well go find Donald Hollis…
Boller is our best option for the KC game until they can bring someone in…
Remember how our Defense got after Cassell last year ( last game)… We can beat the Chefs with Boller…but Hue needs to bring in somebody else …. I’m Ok with Garrard or Palmer…. Best chance might be Garrard …unless Boller lights it up which isn’t likely …
I also believe we’re still gonna be alright …this years team is better than last years … So I expect to see the defense smacking down Cassell again..
October 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am
That’s right Banana.
I mean, why settle for Palmer???
Realistically though, since we are talking next year, what about that young kidd Flynn who’s backing up Rogers?
I want to spend next year’s #1 on a DT, not a damn QB.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am
#1089
LMAO
October 17th, 2011 at 10:06 am
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Ok, since we’re talking fantasy here, lol …..
I’m looking forward to the Colts sucking the rest of the season and drafting Luck.
If they luck up and get Luck, pretty sure they cut Manning and that massive contract.
Peyton Manning to the Raiders!!!!!!
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We can pick him up when Favre retires (again) after taking the Raiders to a SB victory.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:07 am
I want to spend next year’s #1 on a DT, not a damn QB.
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Not a very talented DT class right now. Worthy has issues with pad level and motivation. Ta’amu might only be a 2-down player.
Very talented QB, CB, and LB class.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Brown: Pretty good, the team has been profitable.
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LMAO at that and entire post 1089.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Dakota on fire today.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:08 am
I want to spend next year’s #1 on a DT, not a damn QB.
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Alameda Ta’amu, baby.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:08 am
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Ok, since we’re talking fantasy here, lol …..
I’m looking forward to the Colts sucking the rest of the season and drafting Luck.
If they luck up and get Luck, pretty sure they cut Manning and that massive contract.
Peyton Manning to the Raiders!!!!!!
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I’ve been on the Colt’s suck for Luck and give us Manning bandwagon since week one baby!
fkn A!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Dakota…post 1089…
Nicely done. Especially using Hue’s favorite word over and over again…”obviously!”
As a side job, maybe you can write some “one-liners” for Jay Leno, you would be excellent.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Free agent QB David Garrard’s agent said it’s “highly possible” his client will work out for the Raiders.
The Raiders are casting a wide net in their search for quarterback help, but Garrard should be their top priority. The agent’s comment suggests that Garrard does indeed have interest in playing for the 4-2 Raiders.
Source: Terry McCormick on Twitter
October 17th, 2011 at 10:10 am
It looks like Gruden is modeling himself after John Madden. Too bad Gruden wasn’t such an annoying announcer.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
The reality of our current situation is that it all comes down to Hue’s favorite … if he can get him. That’s the “perk” of being the headcoach.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
MistaBrown Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I think Muphys trade value went to zero after he pooped his pants going over the middle yesterday.
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HAHA funny schit
October 17th, 2011 at 10:14 am
it sucks to booh our own qb at home, but if we bring in Mcown, I’m cursing his mother
October 17th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Marc Bulger?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
How long before Favre is in Alameda texting Amy Trask what’s underneath his Wranglers?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Something about Garrard just screams sack/fumble..
October 17th, 2011 at 10:20 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
How long before Favre is in Alameda texting Amy Trask what’s underneath his Wranglers?
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Hopefully 24 hours or so
October 17th, 2011 at 10:20 am
So far the only source of the Palmer rumors is that yahoo at Yahoo?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Favre just tweeted the following:
@brettshowsc0ck#4rulz I have always had great respect for the Raiders. I always wanted to wear the silver and black. I am bored with my wife and this farm.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am
a 2013 2nd Rounder for Palmer would be decent.
Assuming he’s been working out and what not.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Something about Garrard just screams sack/fumble..
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Garrard has been sacked 179 times in 86 games played (~2 times a game) and fumbled 44 times (just >twice a game)
October 17th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Garrard = Crohns
October 17th, 2011 at 10:23 am
David garrard. … apparently the raiders have already reached out…. broncos say they will be willing to unload. . Kyle orton. .. I wonder if the bears would be willing to trade Cutler? ? …. fun to speculate. … Maybe Carson Palmer. …. but lets face it..boller probably best chance to win….
October 17th, 2011 at 10:23 am
bulger would be an interesting option but does he still have it? or for that matter has he ever had it
October 17th, 2011 at 10:23 am
1062.Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
We are a very young team. I think we could afford to give up one more draft pick to get a guy like Palmer. If we could get him for a 2nd rounder I would do back flips naked through Hot Springs.
But I would be okay with giving up a 1st rounder for him.
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We should offer them a 2013 2nd, that turns to a 1st if he takes us to the playoffs and WINS a playoff game.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:23 am
1107.inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
How long before Favre is in Alameda texting Amy Trask what’s underneath his Wranglers?
Amy Trask will have him crucified in a heart beat! LOL
October 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Note to Hue:
Hey, coach, you need to be consistent with your players.
Just like the Curry acquisition, you immediately started him with the justification that he wasn’t brought in to be looked at. He’s here to improve the team and play immediately…period!
Same applies to the ONE (Pryor). You brought him in from the Supplemental Draft, so prepare him as best as you can and throw the freaking dude into the fire…period!
If he succeeds or shows that he’s our future, better to know now…one way or the other. If he’s not the ONE, then better that we know now as well.
And, Hue, you’ll show your players that you mean what you say, obviously.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
# Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:03 am
“Raiders pushing Hard for Palmer”
ring ring
Mike Brown: Hello?
Hue: Coach Brown! Its Hue Jackson! How are you doing these days?
Brown: Pretty good, the team has been profitable.
Hue: Well that’s good to hear! Hey, I guess you probably heard that we lost Jason Campbell yesterday.
Brown: Is he that race car driver that died?
Hue: No no no, he is our quarter back!
Brown: Who’s quarterback?
Hue: The Raiders’ quarterback obviously.
Brown: The Raiders? I thought you were with the Ravens.
Hue: No, I am the head coach of the Raiders now.
Brown: Oh, I didn’t know that, well congratulations. Now what is it that you need?
Hue: Well, obviously we have an injured quarterback, and obviously you have a pretty good young quarterback now, and obviously you no longer need Carson Palmer, because obviously you are going in the right direction with Dalton, and we obviously could use a new quarterback now that Campbell is hurt, so I think we have an obvious win-win situation right in front of us. We’ll give you a first round pick for the rights to Carson Palmer. Obviously that will help your team and obviously us too!
Brown: Fuk Palmer. He can rot at home much like how Al let Marcus rot on the bench. Don’t fuk with us great owners! How is Al these days anyhow. Haven’t heard from him in a while.
Hue: Coach Brown, Al passed away a week ago.
Brown: Oh that is too bad, tell him I am sorry to hear that the next time you see him okay?
Hue: Huh, okay. (Click)
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LMAO!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:25 am
We should offer them a 2013 2nd, that turns to a 1st if he takes us to the playoffs and WINS a playoff game.
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I’d do that. Seems fair.
Mike Brown is such an old stubborn azzhole though.
If anyone can pry Palmer away, it’s Hue. Seems like the kind of guy that could smooth talk a nun out of her habit before she’d finished 1 glass of wine
October 17th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Orton or Palmer-
That’s the moves that will help us make a deep playoff push.
Garrard-
Keeps us status quo basically. Slight downgrade.
Any other FA-
We regress.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Hue has a history with Brown also from his coaching in Cincy days…slight possibility
October 17th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Orton is not a deep ball threat and that’s a big part of our offense, even if it doesn’t connect, it opens up the short and intermediate passing game
October 17th, 2011 at 10:30 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Something about Garrard just screams sack/fumble..
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Garrard has been sacked 179 times in 86 games played (~2 times a game) and fumbled 44 times (just >twice a game)
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What’s your point? Campbell has fumbled 43 times in 71 games and sacked 147 times.
Garrard hasn’t had good Wr’s but still put up good numbers in jacksonville.
Besides something about Boller screams LOSS!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am
When is trade deadline? Close of business tomorrow?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Note to Hue:
Hey, coach, you need to be consistent with your players.
Just like the Curry acquisition, you immediately started him with the justification that he wasn’t brought in to be looked at. He’s here to improve the team and play immediately…period!
Same applies to the ONE (Pryor). You brought him in from the Supplemental Draft, so prepare him as best as you can and throw the freaking dude into the fire…period!
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Those 2 situations are nothing alike. Curry was aquired to start immediatly, Pryor was aquired as a developmental project with no intention of him ever seeing the field this season (or probably next year either). What part of ‘he isn’t close to ready’ don’t you get? You want a kid that has LITERALLY practiced with an NFL team 6 times to START a game? We aren’t talking about a can’t miss prospect here. We are talking about a guy we REACHED for in the 3rd. Starting Pryor now would 1, ruin our season (might not win a game with him) 2, ruin is career.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Murphys alligator arms must be one of the side effects of all that Viagra he’s popping.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Admit it or not, Kyle Orton was a few dropped passes away from beating us in the opener this season.
I’d be okay with Orton as a stop gap for the rest of the year.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Carl Weathers,
Was just giving Garrard’s sack/fumble numbers, not offering an opinion one way or another
October 17th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Work out Garrard and Favre. Our staff has tried out and turned down many free agents. Let’s see what they got…
October 17th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Pretty Rick Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Murphys alligator arms must be one of the side effects of all that Viagra he’s popping.
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The length left his arms and went into…you know what? Nevermind.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Lol, I don’t think Farve is the type to “come in for a workout.”
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Jeff George can still throw the ball a quarter mile.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
We were already going to win the division with Campbell. With Palmer, we would be contenders to go deep into the playoffs. Palmer, behind our line, with our weapons, would probably make us the most prolific offense in the league. Garrard is a better QB than Campbell to me as well, but Palmer would easily take this Raiders team to the next level. We’ll see if Hue has the mouthpiece to coax Brown. Doesnt hurt that Dalton is playing well for Cin. If we end up with Garrard, we still win the division.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
fk it, if the plan is to keep Boller or sign Edwards or McClown I’d rather see the Raiders just put Lecher in as QB.
At least it would be entertaining. Probably the same outcome, but entertaining.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
My guess is we will not see that Seahawks fan back in here. Curry did pretty well, this week.
This is a funny quote from Yahoo sports under this weeks losers:
The Seattle Seahawks’ decision to trade linebacker Aaron Curry(notes) speaks of a systemic problem that makes you wonder about coach Pete Carroll, who once again spent more energy on useless tweets this week when he offered LeBron James a job. Since taking over as Seattle coach in 2010, Carroll has led the NFL in transactions. One big reason is that he has no patience to actually coach a player. Curry hasn’t met expectations after he was the No. 4 overall draft pick in 2009. But he wasn’t an all-out disaster like Aaron Maybin(notes) in Buffalo. As Curry showed in playing decently for Oakland on Sunday, he has the tools to be an effective player and the Seahawks certainly could use a few more of those, even if they’re overpaid.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Cut Murphy some slack. He missed all of camp and just got back to practice a week ago. I’m sure he is beating himself up for that one, but not getting himself killed for an uncatchable ball over the middle of the field on his ONLY play of the day hardly means this guy is Johnnie Lee Higgins.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:37 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Orton is not a deep ball threat and that’s a big part of our offense, even if it doesn’t connect, it opens up the short and intermediate passing game
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That’s not true at all. Orton can throw a better deep ball than Campbell.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:37 am
per PFT: The Oakland Raiders announced the aquisition of Bruce Gradkowski for a 2014 6th rd draft pick and other considerations. This follows the attempt to get Bengal owner Mike Brown to trade Carson Palmer to Oakland. Mike Brown is determined to punish Palmer for his holdout. Bruce is expected to report for practice Tuesday.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:38 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:37 am
per PFT: The Oakland Raiders announced the aquisition of Bruce Gradkowski for a 2014 6th rd draft pick and other considerations. This follows the attempt to get Bengal owner Mike Brown to trade Carson Palmer to Oakland. Mike Brown is determined to punish Palmer for his holdout. Bruce is expected to report for practice Tuesday.
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LOL, intruding on Dakota’s territory now, I see
October 17th, 2011 at 10:38 am
1130.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Carl Weathers,
Was just giving Garrard’s sack/fumble numbers, not offering an opinion one way or another
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I hear ya. I was just putting out some numbers too compare them to. Unless this guys back is FUBARed he’ll be a Raider tomorrow.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Even though Garrard may be comparable to Campbell in terms of overall ability, one has to keep in mind that Jason knew the system well.
Bottome line, I think we need someone BETTER than both Campbell and Garrard.
Palmer makes the most sense.
Now, with all this talk, watch Boller go out and ball it up, lol.
OK, maybe not.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:39 am
PFT (for real):
Raiders not considering Favre, yet
October 17th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Raiders not considering Favre, yet
Posted by Mike Florio on October 17, 2011, 1:35 PM EDT
AP
As the Raiders try to conjure a plan at quarterback given the broken collarbone suffered Sunday by quarterback Jason Campbell, various names have emerged.
One fairly big name hasn’t. But maybe it should.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Raiders are not considering Brett Favre, and the possibility of signing him hasn’t been discussed.
Of course, this doesn’t mean his name won’t come up.
Yes, Favre is retired. But, yes, it has been widely suspected that he’d be tempted to consider a Roger Clemens-style partial season, under the right circumstances.
In Oakland, the circumstances are far from ideal. There’s no West Coast offense or Mike Holmgren or Darrell Bevell or even a Brad Childress on the coaching staff. And the Raiders aren’t a short-list elite team that seems destined to play deep into January.
But other factors could intrigue Favre. The team has a great running game and an adequate defense. A young receiver like Darrius Heyward-Bey perhaps could blossom with Favre like Sidney Rice did in Minnesota.
Also, Favre played one of the finest games of his career at Oakland, a day after his father died. Only two days before Favre’s 42nd birthday, legendary Raiders owner Al Davis died, which gives the team a strong amount of emotional appeal. The there’s the fact that one of the biggest all-time Brett Favre cheerleaders — John Madden — is advising new owner Mark Davis. And given that Favre has become a villain of sorts in NFL circles over the past few years, it seems like Favre would be a perfect fit for the franchise that revels in its role as pro football’s Darth Vader.
For now, the news is that the name of a future Hall of Famer has yet to make it to the Raiders’ list, even though the Raiders are handcuffed by a limited market. At some point, who knows what will happen?
The Raiders host the Chiefs on Sunday. Next, they have a bye. With Kyle Boller and Terrelle Pryor expected to hold down the fort in the short term, the first opportunity for the next quarterback (whoever it may be) could come in 20 days, when the Raiders host the Broncos.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Uhhh, what?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:41 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:39 am
PFT (for real):
Raiders not considering Favre, yet
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Hahahah, I love how Florio has to add “yet” to add false drama and speculation
October 17th, 2011 at 10:42 am
If there is any way to get Carson Palmer you gotta go that route first. The only thing that concerns me about him is, can he from time to time take off from the pocket and run to make a play or is he stationary.
Garrard is mobile but I am concerned about him keeping his eyes down field and making accurate throws from the pocket.
Both Garrard and Palmer can bring a team from behind and win a ball game in my opinion.
Kyle Boller has not prove to be that type of QB that can bring a team from behind and win. from history he had to have a stout defense that kept him in games or even a defense that win games for the team. Kyle may be able to manage a close game well but Hue has to keep up with the creativity on offense with all the dynamic player he has. I do think Hue can pull it off but it will more of a task with Boller behind the helm.
Pryor may be able to get in the game sooner using wild cat situations.If Pryor can make make a low risk passes to start like behind the line of scrimmage it will his game less predictable.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Wow, I can’t believe our season has come down to a possible decision between Boller, McCown, Garrard, Orton and Edwards.
A once promising season is now looking like it could unravel quickly. And if it does, it will be a dam shame that we won these four games early and took ourselves out of the Andrew Luck equation.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
fk it, let Farve come in and give him a 6 year deal. Blanda played until he was what 47?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I think boller gets the start and we bring back edwards as backup.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Favres hair and beard are silver so he would look fresh in our helmet but I dont him near Alameda.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:44 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/raiders-not-considering-favre-yet/
October 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am
1151.HueKnows Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I think boller gets the start and we bring back edwards as backup.
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so at 6-10 who do we draft next year then?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Please no favre. No more drama in Oakland. We’ve got a good thing going. I doubt Hue would want this drama queen.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Who was that QB down in Tenn who came in and lit it up for half a season a few years ago….then disappeared as a backup in San Diego. Can’t remember his name. Go get him!
October 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Favre would be nuts. Media would go crazy.
I like it.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Billy Volek??
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Who was that QB down in Tenn who came in and lit it up for half a season a few years ago….then disappeared as a backup in San Diego. Can’t remember his name. Go get him!
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Volek
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
1155.aig-raiders Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Please no favre. No more drama in Oakland. We’ve got a good thing going. I doubt Hue would want this drama queen.
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Are you kidding? Sign Farve, then sign Randy Moss and T.O. and we are going to the SB!!!!!!!!
lol
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
so at 6-10 who do we draft next year then?
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We already drafted him. His name is Terrell Pryor. You may not agree with it but it is what it is. They drafted Joe Flacco and Troy Smith with Hue up in Balt. Hue loves mobile QBs. Dont be surprised to see Troy Smith getting a sniff here.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
CorkOnTheNFL Steve Corkran
Various reports have #Raiders checking into Carson Palmer, David Garrard and Josh McCown to fill QB void. Terrelle Pryor now on roster.
5 minutes ago
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Anybody other than Josh McCown. Ideally, David Garrard.I’d be fine with Carson Palmer too. Either should have the necessary tools & experience to get us the AFC-West title & into the playoffs.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Yes, Volek that’s the guy. He still in the NFL?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Billy Volek is a back up in SD and I doubt they would give him to us.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I hated McCown when he was Kitten’s pet. Pls no more McCown pls. I’d rather roll with Boller.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
bummer
October 17th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Volek just signed a contract extension with the Chargers if i’m correct. Btw he is 34 or something
October 17th, 2011 at 10:52 am
6th round pick for lloyd? Nice move Rams. Give the kid at least one decent target.
Broncos making a move for Luck?
October 17th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Kyle Orton.
Chip on shoulder.
Has deep ball.
Good TD to INT ratio.
Would be playing behind a solid O-Line.
Denver just let Brandon Llyod go…..
Why not? he could be ready with a limited playbook by the end of the Bye week.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I’m flying across the country to see the Denver game. I do not want to watch Kyle Boller throw the ball. Please get Palmer or Orton.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I would love to get Marc Bulger over Garrard right now he’s had time to heal and get his head straight from the pounding he took at St. Louie. That kid is very very accurate. If somehow they can get him to come out of retirement IMO that’s the move to make.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am
1170.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I’m flying across the country to see the Denver game. I do not want to watch Kyle Boller throw the ball. Please get Palmer or Orton.
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Driving to Oakland from Sactown is not flying across the country Maddenraider.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I don’t see much of a drop off with Boller he is pretty much the same as Campbell.
We do need someone to back him up however in case he gets hurt.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Bcz24…post 1127:
Ya, you’re absolute 100% right. No arguement.
However, things happen. The attack on the Twin Towers changed our lives completely. Look at the Patriot Act, it stripped you and all of us of any RIGHTS we had left. You have absolutely none, nada, zero, NOW.
When Pryor was brought in, as you say, it was for the future, maybe next year, maybe 2013. But, again, things happen and Campbell’s year ending injury was one of them.
My point, my opinion, nothing more, is that the QB’s out there are either worthless or over-priced. Since we’re desperate, we’ll get reamed (Bztt Fuk’d) without the K-Y Jell.
Pryor, or as I call him, the ONE, may totally bomb out but we don’t know. Look at Plunkett, he was forced to take over and eventually won two Super Bowls and MVP for one of them. He was thrown into the fire.
Ya, big difference, Plunkett vs a rookie like Pryor.
But, that’s the reality of our current situation. Pick up a loser, or overpay for a potentially savior, or GO with what we have. Spend the next 3 to 5 weeks working the ONE and throw him in. If he’s special, if he’s the ONE, them he’ll step up and perform…he’ll be the Hero, he’ll be the ONE. We’re talking about a monster of a player, with speed and size and maybe, just maybe, that special “unseen” quality the produces another Super Star. Wouldn’t that he fitting, a Super Star to the Raiders, the same year that Al passed away.
October 17th, 2011 at 10:56 am
with reports we’re trying for Palmer and in talks w/ Garrards agent doesn’t sound like Hue has too much faith in Boeller. If Campbell is back in 8 weeks then any replacment would likely only have to play 6 games as Boeller will start versus Chiefs. If Garrard doesn’t look right, gotta start wooing Favre
October 17th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Nobody is saying theres going to be a drop off. The issue is theres nobody behind Boller if he goes down!
Feel free to follow along SeyGlen.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I don’t see much of a drop off with Boller he is pretty much the same as Campbell.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
LMAO
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# Dakota Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am
1170.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I’m flying across the country to see the Denver game. I do not want to watch Kyle Boller throw the ball. Please get Palmer or Orton.
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Driving to Oakland from Sactown is not flying across the country Maddenraider.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
No KK again this Monday?
Still havent gotten over the win yet old feller? Keep fightin buddy! Keep fightin!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
1173.Silverandblack666 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I don’t see much of a drop off with Boller he is pretty much the same as Campbell.
We do need someone to back him up however in case he gets hurt.
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This brings up the million dollar question… Does Hue trust Boller to lead this team and win? If we bring in McCown or Edwards, the answer is yes. Garrard or Palmer, the answer is no, obviously.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
1175.inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:56 am
with reports we’re trying for Palmer and in talks w/ Garrards agent doesn’t sound like Hue has too much faith in Boeller. If Campbell is back in 8 weeks then any replacment would likely only have to play 6 games as Boeller will start versus Chiefs. If Garrard doesn’t look right, gotta start wooing Favre
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Dude, denial isn’t just a river in Africa?
Where are you getting this Campbell back in 8 weeks load of crap? Are you just stunned? Did you think Bo Jackson was coming back for the Buffalo game too?
6-9 MONTHS to get back to 85-100% is the prognosis for a broken clavicle. It is his throwing shoulder. the dude took hi last snap as a Raider yesterday. move on.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Joe Porter cut.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Looks like Joe Porter is gone. Cork reporting it on twitter.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
WTF is Denver doing. Got screwed worse than we did SeaHawks. Conditional 6th for Brandon Lloyd. Someone issmokin a cig after that f*cking.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
” don’t see much of a drop off with Boller he is pretty much the same as Campbell.
We do need someone to back him up however in case he gets hurt.”
Read the second sentence moron!
I swear your the most illiterate blogger in here cant you read?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Thats to make room for Pryor obviously.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
If you want a guy to back up Boller, then get guys who already know Hue’s playbook.
Troy Smith or Trent Edwards. I would love to get Troy.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Getting a lot of “Favre” from you people … Wow
7 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
October 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
“Nobody is saying theres going to be a drop off. The issue is theres nobody behind Boller if he goes down!”
Why are you so stupid Brownstains!
Why can’t you read?
Your teacher should be fired!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
working out 2 O-Lineman also.
Zack Hurd & Cole Pemberton
October 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am
and DL Jay Ross
October 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Eddie Royal requested a trade..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am
No situation could possibly be dire enough to warrant the Raiders bringing in Favre.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:56 am
with reports we’re trying for Palmer and in talks w/ Garrards agent doesn’t sound like Hue has too much faith in Boeller. If Campbell is back in 8 weeks then any replacment would likely only have to play 6 games as Boeller will start versus Chiefs. If Garrard doesn’t look right, gotta start wooing Favre
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As I said before, the only “report” about Palmer is from a yahoo? Until I here it from the team itself, it’s all heresy.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
SeyGlen666, simmer down before you bust a capillary.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Remember day to day is a Hueism for out several weeks. Equals little nick. 6-8 weeks is big nick and out for season.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
bcz24 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Cut Murphy some slack. He missed all of camp and just got back to practice a week ago. I’m sure he is beating himself up for that one, but not getting himself killed for an uncatchable ball over the middle of the field on his ONLY play of the day hardly means this guy is Johnnie Lee Higgins.
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I’ll cut him some slack,but he should have caught that ball and teken the hit. If he can’t do that, he shouldn’t be going over the middle.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Broncos are cleaning house. Maybe they would trade Orton. If they trade Royal too, whose the Messiah going to throw the ball to?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Stop with the matrix cheese. Embarrassing.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Where are you getting this Campbell back in 8 weeks load of crap?
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cork posted a surgeon says 6 -8 weeks with surgery. Are you a better surgeon I suppose?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Should have cut Boyd instead of Porter, but ok. Looks like a QB is on the way, either way.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Broncos are cleaning house. Maybe they would trade Orton. If they trade Royal too, whose the Messiah going to throw the ball to?
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Decker & D. Thomas..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
John David Booty Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Should have cut Boyd instead of Porter, but ok. Looks like a QB is on the way, either way.
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Disagree. Porter should have never made the team.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
If the Broncos are cleaning house would they be willing to trade us Champ Baily, Dawkins and Orton!?!?!?!? We’ll give them Giordoninoninonno, Boller, and CJ and a 7th round pick!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Have to say that was a nice throw and catch from Boller to Scliens down the sideline. Ruled incomplete, but he was in bounds….. moot beacause of the penalty.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Garrard turned down Miami because he wants a long term deal. He doesnt want to be a stop gap. Cant say I blame. But I dont think the Raiders will sign him to multiple years.
Im starting to think that Boller makes the most sense for now. With Pryor possible being an option in a few wks.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Romo called Orton a puss on the radio. At least he’s not a roid freak.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Favre looked washed up last year. This year he would be even worse.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am
capillary WOW that’s a big word for a degenerate like yourself…put the thesaurus down your brain is about to explode.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am
lol tafur went “you people”.
Plagiarist!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am
1199.inonewordraider Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Where are you getting this Campbell back in 8 weeks load of crap?
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cork posted a surgeon says 6 -8 weeks with surgery. Are you a better surgeon I suppose?
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That goes without saying…..if Campbell isn’t back in 8 weeks you have to come in here and declare me the smartest surgeon ever! Deal?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am
A wildcat backfield of Pryor and McFadden..interesting!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Did my guy Bill Romanowski really call Kyle Orton “a pus” on the radio? … I do agree that he wouldn’t be a great fit here with #Raiders
2 minutes ago
lol if Romo was playing today he would be fined 100 000 per week by goodell
October 17th, 2011 at 11:10 am
if Campbell isn’t back in 8 weeks you have to come in here and declare me the smartest surgeon ever! Deal?
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moot point after Favre get’s in such a rhythm, Campbell will end up sitting out the season
October 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am
raidertay Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Garrard turned down Miami because he wants a long term deal. He doesnt want to be a stop gap. Cant say I blame. But I dont think the Raiders will sign him to multiple years.
Im starting to think that Boller makes the most sense for now. With Pryor possible being an option in a few wks.
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He turned them down mainly because they suck. Lets not kid ourselves.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am
bring in Kyle “the puss” Orton
October 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am
raidertay Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Garrard turned down Miami because he wants a long term deal. He doesnt want to be a stop gap. Cant say I blame. But I dont think the Raiders will sign him to multiple years.
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I read that Garrard just wanted his 2011 salary guaranteed. Miami wouldn’t do it because they were interested in looking at Henne too. If that is all he is asking, then get the deal done!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am
John David Booty Says:
Should have cut Boyd instead of Porter, but ok. Looks like a QB is on the way, either way.
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Yes. And that QB would be Pryor. That’s his roster spot they just cleared. Next we should see Jason go on IR to clear a spot for another backup.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:12 am
RaiderTay – True, Garrard did turn down Miami’s offer, but he was also probably looking at the situation there, and wanted to be in a better spot. I’m sure he wouldn’t mind auditioning with us for the rest of the year so he can secure a job elsewhere if we didn’t want to retain his services afterwards. I’m sure he’s had a reality check and realizes if he sits out the rest of the year; it could damage his hopes at a continued career big time.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Raidertay…now you’re on track…nice thinking.
Some of you other dudes better jump on now…Pryor is the ONE.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Hagar the Horrible Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am
A wildcat backfield of Pryor and McFadden..interesting!
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Yes sir. Pryor will excel here.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Boller should be able to beat KC. f not then we need to roll the dice o Pryor.
Tressel said that Pryor was one of the hardest working players he ever had. Maybe the kid will get a shot after the bye.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Shaughnessy to IR looks more and more likely.
Bryant to DE, we are looking for DL depth..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Great to see the Donkeys looking all dysfunctional these days…lol
Why would you trade your best receiver for nothing?
And Royal wants out too??
Someone must have left a rank fart all up in there!!..lol
GO RAIDERS!!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Were there any ex-niners around our logo? Romo looked out of place there… POS donk
October 17th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
Romo called Orton a puss on the radio.
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I find it really hard to believe Romo would ever say something like that. He’s never been one to start sht. Do you have proof?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:14 am
1224.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Were there any ex-niners around our logo? Romo looked out of place there… POS donk
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Well, Romo was a niner too….
October 17th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Were there any ex-niners around our logo? Romo looked out of place there… POS donk
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Romo is an ex Niner too..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
As I said before, the only “report” about Palmer is from a yahoo? Until I here it from the team itself, it’s all heresy.
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Cannot imagine that cross-eyed dork Jason La Canfora is just repeating a made-up Yahoo story…
Palmer is top option for Raiders after Campbell injury
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82331f5a/article/palmer-is-top-option-for-raiders-after-campbell-injury
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
John David Booty Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Should have cut Boyd instead of Porter, but ok. Looks like a QB is on the way, either way.
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Disagree. Porter should have never made the team.
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I agree, Porter shouldnt have made the team over Sterling Moore, but hes still better than Boyd.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
bring in Kyle “the puss” Orton
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Who’s the bigger puss… Orton, Cutler or Rivers??
All three are sporting gines…
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
1)Favre
2)Garrard
3)Orton
Palmer too expensive, Boeller or Edwards better than Mccown
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Romonowski never one to start things??? wow…ive heard it all..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Raiding,
I think they are referring to Bill Romanowski. I think you are thinking of Romo with the Cowgirls.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
I meant others..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am
I think those of you who think there is little drop off between boller and Campbell are in for an unpleasant surprise.
We are a run heavy offense, but Campbell was a qb that forced defenses to at least respect the pass. He was capable of making them pay if they totally sold out on the run. Boller does not do that.
Yesterday, we ran the ball effectively when campbell was in. When he got hurt, the Browns sold out on the run and it became much harder to run the ball and Boller had a hard hard time making them pay. The passes were there too. Wide open receivers running all over the place. He just kept missing them.
I bet our running attack takes a big hit because of this. I’m hoping a week of first team snaps can make boller better, but I’m skeptical. The season will rest with whether we find someone who can make a defense pay when they dare us to beat them through the air. I dont think that is boller, I know its not pryor, I’m hoping it might be Gerrard.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am
#FreeCarsonPalmer
October 17th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Mizza 100% spot on.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 am
raiderinpa Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
bring in Kyle “the puss” Orton
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Who’s the bigger puss… Orton, Cutler or Rivers??
All three are sporting gines…
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You are an idiot.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:19 am
DHB.. how bout that guy. Talk about the light switch turning on..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Joe Germaine > Pryor
October 17th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
I think they are referring to Bill Romanowski. I think you are thinking of Romo with the Cowgirls.
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My bad. The other guy is not someone I ever waste brain power thinking about. He’s just a despicable person. Nothing he ever says should be taken seriously.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Pryor said Hue was redoing his entire drop back. Dont think he will be ready just yet.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:22 am
At least with Gerrard, when he leaves the pocket, he doesn’t turn into a 6 foot puzzy like Soup did.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Got to think Boller would improve a little with some practice reps and what not, but not much way to correct that errant pass he threw to DHB on the sidelines, that was off by 5 yards.
This is a guy who has 48 career TD’s and 71 total turnovers.
Over the last 5 years, it is 12 and 23.
Inaccuracy has always been an MAJOR ISSUE with Mr. Prejean, even back in his 0-11 days at Cal.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Got to think Boller would improve a little with some practice reps and what not, but not much way to correct that errant pass he threw to DHB on the sidelines, that was off by 5 yards.
This is a guy who has 48 career TD’s and 71 total turnovers.
Over the last 5 years, it is 12 and 23.
Inaccuracy has always been an MAJOR ISSUE with Mr. Prejean, even back in his 0-11 days at Cal.
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Sound promising..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Here’s a nice video of Garrard’s running ability:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okEINxro2y8&feature=related
October 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 am
raiderinpa Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
bring in Kyle “the puss” Orton
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Who’s the bigger puss… Orton, Cutler or Rivers??
All three are sporting gines…
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You are an idiot.
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Hope you were joking with that comment
October 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
I blame Corkran, and his trumpeting a potential 6-2 start.
Hell, we still may go 6-2, but Soup not understanding the nuances of his position sandbagged a season that could have milked a playoff win or two.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I read that Garrard just wanted his 2011 salary guaranteed. Miami wouldn’t do it because they were interested in looking at Henne too. If that is all he is asking, then get the deal done!
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Miami didn’t bring in Garrard until Henne was injured (they knew it was a season ender). The report was that he ‘wanted a long term commitment’ but it could have just been a crap situation.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Campbell says he is having surgery today, hopes to be back in 6 weeks
51 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
October 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am
My man Vance Mueller repped for Al yesterday!
Go Oxy!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am
raiderinpa Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:18 am
raiderinpa Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
bring in Kyle “the puss” Orton
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Who’s the bigger puss… Orton, Cutler or Rivers??
All three are sporting gines…
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You are an idiot.
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Hope you were joking with that comment
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You are an idiot. And no, I’m not joking.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am
JB Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Campbell says he is having surgery today, hopes to be back in 6 weeks
51 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Gonna cost us a roster spot..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Campbell says he is having surgery today, hopes to be back in 6 weeks
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Could have sworn we went through this last year with another QB……..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Favre, on this team = Super Bowl.
Print it.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Albert Bigelow Paine
Oh so, YOU are the biggest Puss! F-you douche!! Have a personality dickweed!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
I like that Hue is using David Ausberry a bit more. I thinks he can make a big impact on this team. Dmac needs more touches or need to be in the game more. Most teams keep their home run hitter in the game as much as possible and I feel the Raiders should take advantage of all his skill as much as possible.
Bring Trent Edward would not help the QB situation at all. I saw all I needed to see from him. He was shown to be far inferior than boller. Their was no upside to his game. Boller really needs to step his game up help this team. As of now The QB position is the weakest link!!!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Inaccuracy has always been an MAJOR ISSUE with Mr. Prejean,
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http://www.athleteswives.com/tag/kyle-boller-wife/
October 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
1249.bcz24 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I read that Garrard just wanted his 2011 salary guaranteed. Miami wouldn’t do it because they were interested in looking at Henne too. If that is all he is asking, then get the deal done!
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Miami didn’t bring in Garrard until Henne was injured (they knew it was a season ender). The report was that he ‘wanted a long term commitment’ but it could have just been a crap situation.
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No, Miami contacted Garrard right after he was cut, but wouldn’t even guarantee a contract for 2011, then when they contacted him later once Henne was injured he told them to eat it.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Its Campbell’s throwing shoulder. I cant see him being back in 6 wks.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am
DHB’s effort on the play where he fell to catch the pass and got back up to put a move on the DB before going down shortly after literally wants to make me go out and get that kid’s jersey today. In fact, I just might go to the Raider Image store at Universal Citywalk and do that tonight!
Ford’s sideline tip-toe regaining of his balance slightly edges that out for best effort of the day though
October 17th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Apparently Steve thinks that there is nothing to write about today. I guess the 1200 post must be about nothing.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:34 am
raiderinpa Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Albert Bigelow Paine
Oh so, YOU are the biggest Puss! F-you douche!! Have a personality dickweed!
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LMAO, aren’t we a little sensitive today. F*ck off bro.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:35 am
1243.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:22 am
At least with Gerrard, when he leaves the pocket, he doesn’t turn into a 6 foot puzzy like Soup did.
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I imagine that once Campbell comes back he will be an even bigger pzzy when he runs after that injury lol.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:35 am
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am
JB Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Campbell says he is having surgery today, hopes to be back in 6 weeks
51 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Gonna cost us a roster spot..
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From my experience, these kind of optimistic player injury estimates are almost always short of the actual time it takes. And what kind of condition and how effective can we expect Campbell to be rushing back from a broken collarbone injury?
We don’t have maybe 6 – 8 weeks to sit around and hope to get Campbell back at some level resembling his better games this season. If he were Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, sure. You’d bide your time and come up with the best stop-gap solution. I think we have to look now for a QB who is capable of bringing us home this season. Campbell got us off to a nice start and was playing solid football. But now’s the time to swing big.
And Kyle Boller backed up by Josh McCown is not what I’m talking about.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:36 am
2romes Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
I like that Hue is using David Ausberry a bit more. I thinks he can make a big impact on this team. Dmac needs more touches or need to be in the game more. Most teams keep their home run hitter in the game as much as possible and I feel the Raiders should take advantage of all his skill as much as possible.
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However, I don’t think Ausberry on the double reverse is the way to go.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Just sensitive to a fellow Raider fan calling me an idiot for no reason.. Whats wrong, you’re a Broncos fan?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:38 am
New post suckas
October 17th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Garrard and Palmer are really the only options if the Raiders want a starting QB after the bye week.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:41 am
JB Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Campbell says he is having surgery today, hopes to be back in 6 weeks
51 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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We have to put JC on the IR, we dont have the roster spot to wait around for him.
I think he is now done wearing the Silver and Black.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:43 am
2romes-nothings changed,the QB position has been the weakest link.You guys are acting like we lost Tom Brady.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Since you guys are throwing out everybody how about Brady Quinn?
I’ll bet Grossman is available, just ask Shanny, hahahaha…
I say we get David Humm.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:49 am
David Hummer? ? Man he was horrible. .. thanks for reminding me how good we have it without him..
October 17th, 2011 at 11:50 am
DHB route running has been amazing!!!! The one that got away from boller after DHB runs the perfect route is imprinted in my mind. Man, DHB has really made a great turnaround for himself.
The Raiders have some of the best receivers in the game,in my opinion. The Raiders need a QB that can maximize all of those talented receivers skills!!
October 17th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Kurt warner ?
October 17th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Forget favre. … bring back the other retired Dude. .. Kurt Warner. …
October 17th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Lmao.. king..we think alike.
October 17th, 2011 at 11:55 am
lefty12 Says:
October 17th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I feel Campbell manages the game much better that Boller. Campbell was the starter for a reason. What changed is now Boller is the starting QB. Is that not change???
October 17th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
according to Jay Glazer, Garrard needs immediate surgery on a herniated disc in his back…… so looks like he is out.
October 17th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
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October 17th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
They may not be worried about their QB situation, but they BETTER start worrying about their in-game decision making. How Hue goes for it on 4th and 1 on the opponent’s ten yd line w/a backup QB is beyond me. We’re up 14 pts at that point, kick the FG and game over-recovered onside kick or not-that was a boneheaded move, and its going to come back to bite us down the road I fear-winning is the greatest disinfectant there is-c’mon Hue, MAKE GOOD DECISIONS!
October 17th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Nbits…post 1281:
Best post of the day, obviously the most accurate!
If we take the automatic three, the Brownies never score again…they know thet’re out of it…no more wind in their sails.
No, that decision put blood back in their veins.
Beyond stupid, beyond reckless, beyond bonehead, totally out of this galacy.
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